Cornell 7: Frat Brothers Accused of Campus Gang Rape & Sending "Free Pussy" Snapchat

There aren’t many reasons why a pedestrian gets hit by a car ends up being at fault. But at Cornell, a student whose foot was allegedly run over by university president Michael Kotlikoff’s car was banned from campus for a year. A few months later, Cornell faces another scandal. Jane Doe files a civil lawsuit against the university and seven fraternity brothers, alleging she was gang raped for seven hours. Her dream university becomes a nightmare, while some of the accused allegedly receive punishments like workshops and essays. Now, Snapchats, text messages and recorded phone calls are emerging. One accused says he was assaulted by Jane Doe, not the other way around. Some people have already picked sides. But like most cases, maybe it’s not so simple. This is the case of the Cornell 7. Full show notes available at RottenMangoPodcast.com

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  I can't think of many reasons that a person, a pedestrian, can be standing there and get hit by a car and somehow that person, the pedestrian, ends up at fault. There's not really many scenarios in which I would immediately accept that conclusion without asking a ton of follow-up questions. I mean, you really have to be kind of shit out of luck. You have to be in some sort of luck recession. April 30th of this year, 2026, there is a college kid standing in a parking lot. He's got his little backpack on and he's filming with his phone. So he's got his phone out, he's got his backpack, and he appears to be standing in front of a black Cadillac that's just parked in a parking spot. And the student just very quickly says, am I allowed to stand here?

• 2:14Speaker 01

  He's got his phone up and we get the answer to his question sooner rather than later. I don't know if he's allowed to stand there, but maybe he shouldn't be standing there? Because the black Cadillac decides, I'm just gonna hit the kid. The car backs into the student. It's a little more like a bonk, like a very hard bonk. I mean, the car does not perform a speed test trying to go zero to 60. It's not, the car just kind of anticlimactically bumps into the student behind it, continues reversing out of the parking spot. The student doesn't lose balance, he doesn't fall over, he doesn't get dragged, but it's not like a super soft tap either. He just kind of walks backwards as the car is reversing back into him

• 2:58Speaker 01

  before the car puts itself into drive and starts moving forward to get out of the parking spot. But as the car is moving forward, you can hear from the side of the car, someone else is screaming now, ah, you just ran over my fucking foot, oh my god! And that individual, whose foot was potentially ran over by this car, is banned from campus for the entire year. This is a student who got his foot allegedly run over and can no longer come back to campus.

• 3:27Speaker 02

  Wait, there's a lot of people?

• 3:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's multiple students. One gets bumped, one allegedly gets his foot run over. There's different people and the entire parking lot fiasco is analyzed and discussed on many major news platforms. Because this isn't just any parking lot and a bunch of college students being irresponsible with vehicles. This is the parking lot at a very prestigious Ivy League institution, Cornell University. And after a week-long investigation, it was decided that the students outside the car were the ones to blame. They were the ones at fault for getting bumped, boomed, for getting their foot run over. I mean, it kind of sounds bizarre. Because like, sure, you probably shouldn't be standing in front of a car that's trying to get out of the parking lot,

• 4:15Speaker 01

  but also that person driving the car should probably just call the campus police, try to do something so that they don't actually start moving the vehicle when there's people standing in the way.

• 4:26Speaker 02

  So there's a bunch of students blocking the car, is that what?

• 4:29Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 4:30Speaker 02

  Okay, so prevent it from leaving?

• 4:31Speaker 01

  Yes, but it's not super aggressive either. It's kind of like a mixture of preventing it from leaving and kind of loitering.

• 4:38Speaker 02

  Right, and then the car, is it just?

• 4:40Speaker 01

  It's just slowly backing up.

• 4:42Speaker 02

  Like without?

• 4:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:44Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 4:44Speaker 01

  But there's gotta be a better way to get out of the parking spot, right? But the reason that this makes the news is because, well, like I said, it's Cornell University and it's such a strange, bizarre incident with a strange conclusion. But also, the person driving the vehicle is the president of Cornell, who just backed up into a student and potentially ran over another student's foot. And a week later, after an investigation, it is decided that it was all the student's fault. They were the ones responsible for this event. To give some context, right before this whole parking lot fiasco, Cornell's president, Michael Kotlikoff, had just introduced to Cornell students the Israel-Palestinian debate series,

• 5:28Speaker 01

  which this comes after a series of protests broke out on campus demanding justice for Palestine and some pretty big scandals of Ivy League schools punishing protesters, suspending them, expelling them, rescinding student visas. It was a fucking mess. So I guess this was Cornell's response to their other shit responses. Well, now we're gonna have a debate series. Now, nevertheless, as the president introduces the debate series, he's now leaving the atrium and a handful of students, they start questioning Michael Kotlikoff in the hallway and they end up following him to the parking lot to his car. Now, from the footage that I saw that's been released, it doesn't look like the students are jumping up on his car. It doesn't look like they're banging on his windows. They're just kind of filming and loitering and preventing him from leaving. They're asking him follow-up questions.

• 6:12Speaker 01

  He gets in the driver's side and it's very clear there's one student standing behind his car so that he can't back out of the parking spot. And it honestly, I mean, it's not that intense, all things considered. It's not like the students created some sort of scary human chain where they're just like threatening bodily harm. And you're also talking about an Israel-Palestinian debate series after Cornell students felt like they've been brutally punished for peacefully protesting. There's gonna be a lot of emotions involved. And from the footage I saw, it doesn't seem that volatile. But he still backs up into them and apparently runs over a foot. The whole situation gets so big that the president of Cornell has to release a public statement where he says,

• 6:55Speaker 01

  "These individuals are known to Cornell for their past conduct, including a long history of ongoing verbal and online abuse towards numerous members of Cornell's administration and staff, as well as disruptive protests resulting in the case of two individual bans from the campus." He says that he was accosted in the hallway, that they continued to follow him to his car, surrounded him, banged on the windows, blocked the car, and they were shouting. He says, "I waited until I saw space behind my car and then using my car's rear pedestrian alert and automatic braking system, was able to slowly maneuver my car from the parking space and exit the parking lot."

• 7:33Speaker 02

  What?

• 7:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, his statement is kind of crazy. He also says, "The behavior I experienced last night is not protest. It is harassment and intimidation with the direct motive of silencing speech. It is no place in an academic community, no place in a democracy, and can have no place at Cornell." The student who had his foot allegedly run over, he did end up getting his degree the month after the incident, so he was a senior, and he graduated. However, right after graduation, he was banned from going on campus for an entire year because of this incident. So his foot allegedly gets run over by Cornell's president and the notice of the ban reads, quote, "While in the day hall parking lot,

• 8:19Speaker 01

  you restricted a motor vehicle's ability to maneuver while it was in motion as the reverse lights of the vehicle were illuminated. Your intentional act created a hazardous condition." Which like, all of this seems so overkill. Why didn't Cornell's president just call campus police to come help him so that he could safely reverse his car out of there and go home? I mean, what compelled him to reverse his car when he knew that there were pedestrians, Cornell students, standing around his car? And now the campus police, CUPD, Cornell University Police Department, who work for Cornell and by default, Michael Kotlikoff, the president, has now deemed that it's the student's fault and he can't come back to campus for a full year. And this was a huge scandal for Cornell earlier this year.

• 9:04Speaker 01

  But that will not, not even in the slightest, be the worst investigation and scandal that Cornell University will be caught up in in this year. Because a few months later, Jane Doe will file a civil lawsuit against Cornell University and seven fraternity brothers from Cornell, now dubbed the Cornell Seven. Jane Doe alleges that as a student at Cornell, she went to a fraternity party where she was gang essayed for seven hours, traumatized to the point of dropping out of her dream university and her entire life has been ripped apart. While some of the accused, according to her lawsuit, are still going to school. They're on their way to graduating and some of the accused, their punishment for the events of that night was to attend a workshop and write essays, reflection essays, reflection papers.

• 9:50Speaker 01

  These are the allegations against the Cornell Seven from the Jane Doe lawsuit and why it seems like everybody is divided. There are people in mainstream media who are going on talk shows like The View, going against Jane Doe. Trump, yeah, Trump is weighing in, stating that the accused aren't going to get a fair shake if a certain prosecutor is investigating the case. There are Snapchat messages that are being analyzed, new text messages seemingly released like every single day, recorded phone calls are slowly getting released with at least one accused stating that maybe he was the one who was essayed by Jane Doe, not the other way around. People are getting doxxed, the U.S. Marine Corps is having to step up to tell the internet, wait, you've got the wrong guy.

• 10:34Speaker 01

  Like that, that's a guy from the Marines, he's a Marine. You guys think he's one of the Cornell Seven because he has the same name, but he's a Marine. And in like most cases, everyone's trying to pick a side, but like I said, with most cases, it's just really not that simple. This is the case of the Cornell Seven.

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  Before we begin, a big content warning. This episode discusses an alleged sexual assault, including drug and alcohol usage, potential coercion, as well as the greater ripple effects that have resulted from this case, positive and negative. If you are a survivor, or you find this subject hard to hear, please take care of yourself. Skip to the next one if you need to. And I also cannot stress enough. This case is currently ongoing. When we describe what happened that night, we're describing what is alleged in court filings, reported by news outlets, or found in public records up until the time of recording. Due to the current pending status, legally speaking, we are using very specific words to indicate that it has not been adjudicated. Nobody has been proven guilty in the court of law,

• 12:34Speaker 01

  and everybody remains innocent until and unless they are proven guilty in court. And us having to state that is neither a judgment of the case, nor is it a judgment of Jane Doe's credibility, nor is it a judgment of the accused's credibility. Any comments, theories, speculations, opinions, claims, or even leaked information online we found publicly available online, they do not reflect our beliefs. If there are any massive developments or changes, we will do our best to keep you guys updated. But with that being said, always do your own research. And I will say, there is like a whole football team of lawyers involved. Everybody's lawyered up. At this point, lawyers are getting lawyers, and that's obviously an exaggeration, but it just feels like that. It just feels like new lawyers are spawning every week to do an interview with ABC News, and these lawyers are very

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  passionate, and they're very full of... Some of the lawyers are getting threatened. They say that they're getting death threats. They're getting threats to their family's safety. It's become a very polarizing case, but because there's so many lawyers involved, just something to keep in mind before we go and post some crazy TikToks, like, don't say anything too crazy, is all I'm saying. So with that being said, let's get started. Insurance companies, at least in my personal experience, they don't like to say no to coverage, because that's saying no to money. So they'll say, yes, we will accept you. We will cover you. And then they will try their absolute best to not cover anything, but they'll typically take your money. They'll ship you one of those like, plastic insurance cards in the mail that means absolutely nothing at this point. You might as well be paying with Barbie

• 14:03Speaker 01

  dollars at the doctor's office, Monopoly money, because nothing ever gets covered. But there are some individuals and organizations that even insurance companies are like, we don't even want your money. You can take your money. We don't want to cover you. We don't even want to go through that. It's not even worth the risk. Fraternities are one of them. There is a common statistic that's cited out there that fraternities are the sixth worst insurance risk in the country, behind hazardous waste disposal companies and asbestos contractors. That was stated in Time Magazine, but there's no official list.

• 14:36Speaker 02

  What's asbestos contracts?

• 14:37Speaker 01

  It's like mold.

• 14:39Speaker 02

  Oh, oh, oh, I see.

• 14:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, there's no official list, so it's very hard to say if they're the sixth worst. I couldn't find the exact source of this thing that people keep repeating. Some people say it's the seventh worst, or some people say it's fraternities and sororities, it's all Greek life. Some people say it's just fraternities. It does appear, though, the truth is that many insurance companies don't want to cover fraternities. I don't know if it's the sixth worst, but they just don't like them.

• 15:05Speaker 02

  I didn't know they need a, like, umbrella coverage for...

• 15:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, they need umbrella coverage.

• 15:10Speaker 02

  Are they like a company? They run it, probably like an organization, right?

• 15:14Speaker 01

  So they need umbrella coverage usually for the national organization, and then I think for the chapter houses, filled with a bunch of 18-year-olds that are getting drunk, is usually an insurance nightmare.

• 15:25Speaker 02

  I mean, that makes sense.

• 15:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:27Speaker 02

  That makes sense. Imagine the amount of...

• 15:31Speaker 01

  Lossuits, liability.

• 15:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, just incidents that they have to cover on a weekly basis.

• 15:36Speaker 01

  It's to the point where a lot of the fraternities have resulted in self-insuring. They have set up their own insurance companies. Some big fraternities even came together to create their own insurance company. There's one really big one called FRMT, Fraternity Risk Management Trust. A board member states that they write liability coverage for roughly half of all the national fraternities, but they typically don't cover the things that fraternities usually get sued for, such as hazing, alcohol violations, or SA. And there's fine print. So basically, if you're a member of a fraternity, you're 18, you went to college, you just joined a fraternity, you just pledged, you got hazed, and obviously, this is vague and not directed towards one organization, but a general overview that shouldn't be

• 16:20Speaker 01

  taken as representative of any specific or all organizations. But if you're a member of a fraternity, and you're drunk, you do something really bad, you end up getting sued, okay? You pay the fraternity like $50 a year. Some people say it's $100 a year, a couple hundred dollars a year, for insurance. Well, the fine print says, the minute you start drinking under certain circumstances, you are no longer a member. Your membership is rescinded, which means the minute that that happens, you are no longer a fraternity member, which means you are no longer covered under the fraternity insurance policy. You're just not a member anymore now. Yes, you got spanked. You got hazed in ways that probably

• 17:04Speaker 01

  have a lot more in common with organized FET life meetups, blindfolds. You're eating an entire raw onion while being spanked, then forced to plank while professing your undying love to the brothers, and you're big, which is the guy standing over you watching with like, a weird power trip. And that obviously can only mean that this is like the pinnacle of interpersonal relationships and friendship. All of that, the second that there's a court filing, that member is likely dropped. It's almost poetic, actually.

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  There are two odd workarounds for this alcohol thing, two usually approved ways of drinking at fraternity houses that have your chance of most likely staying insured by the fraternity insurance is one, the fraternity brings in a third-party vendor to check IDs and they assume the liability. So it's like you're hosting an event and now they're gonna check the ID, make sure everyone's 21, and they're gonna stop giving you drinks when you seem too inebriated, they're now liable. Or two, this is crazy, but there's a whole list of BYOB. So it's bring your own beer, and they have a whole checklist that they're supposed to do. So they assign someone at the door, and it's like a guest list, everybody has to be 21, it has to be marked, you can only bring like six beverages, like six beers

• 21:31Speaker 01

  and under, or like one bottle of wine, there's some sort of limitation there, and then you get a band that you can't take off, and you can only drink your own beer, or you can only drink like the amount of alcohol that you brought.

• 21:43Speaker 02

  You're saying that's the only time they will insure

• 21:46Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 21:47Speaker 02

  these type of incidents?

• 21:49Speaker 01

  Yes, but like, the people that are checking all these things are your fellow fraternity brothers that are also 18, 19, probably, maybe 21. It's just, it's not like a foolproof way, which is why there's a lot of bad things that happen at fraternity houses. But if all else fails, when members are not insured, fraternity brothers, and this is so strange, I was thinking, okay, like where do they, who pays them out then? If you sue a fraternity member, and their fraternity drops them from their insurance, what happens then? Apparently, a large number of payouts are made by that individual's parents' homeowner's insurance

• 22:28Speaker 01

  policy. So it's just like the strangest, it's like a whole ecosphere of lawyers who only take on fraternity cases. There's some really big ones, like big names in the industry that all of the chapter heads, the national heads of these organizations fucking hate these lawyers. They're just, it's like one big, everybody knows everybody type of thing. One redditor writes that when he was in a fraternity, quote, "Fifty dollars per brother per year went to insurance," which are national, the national office required. The thing is, if you read the insurance policy, anything that could result in a chapter or national organization being sued was either a violation of fraternity bylaws or the insurance policy

• 23:10Speaker 01

  itself, in which case, no coverage is offered. We technically could not throw a football around in the front yard with non-brothers that were there, because according to the policy, anything athletic was too much of a liability for the insurance company. But also, if you're with a bunch of fraternity brothers throwing a football around, and then you get rammed in the head with a football in the front yard as a full-pledged brother, well, according to the redditor, quote, "Insurance does not cover brothers who sue the chapter or national organization for any reason, as they are considered the same party on the same plan." So you can't sue them either. According to one insurance company who does insure fraternities, they took a sample of liability claims and they analyzed

• 23:52Speaker 01

  what kind of claims they were, they're just categorizing them. And a lot of people assumed right off the bat that hazing injuries and deaths would be maybe number one, maybe number two, or alcohol-related deaths, right? Considering, there's just a lot of bizarre and terrifying news all the time about the newest ways fraternities are terrorizing and hazing new pledges. Like, there was this guy that was rushed to the hospital, doctors initially thought that he was sodomized, that he was assayed. But in a very, like, rather uncomfortable turn of events, I guess you could say, they discovered that the fraternity was actually having, well, allegedly, having their new pledges stick plastic hoses up their butts

• 24:32Speaker 01

  to give themselves enemas with alcohol. The patient in question denies that this ever happened, however, police found circumstantial evidence in the fraternity house, including evidence that the patient may have lost control of his bowels in the process and defecated on himself, which he also has no recollection of. And alcohol enemas are super dangerous, you absorb the alcohol much quicker because you're bypassing your stomach, and it's hard to gauge how much is going up the butt, to put it simply. Also, you could tear your rectum and sustain injuries, like this very bright-minded pledge did, you know, future of our nation, they say, bright-eyed college student ends up in the ER, wine enema, allegedly.

• 25:16Speaker 01

  So everyone thought, okay, well, hazing is gonna be the biggest type of lawsuit, but it's actually not. The first one from this sample is assault and battery. Then you have essay. Then slip and fall. The fourth is fall from heights. And the fifth is auto accidents, and tied with fifth is at just 7% hazing incidents.

• 25:40Speaker 02

  Interesting.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  And that's not saying that there aren't a lot of hazing lawsuits, I mean, there are, like, a lot of branding gone wrong, where plaintiffs need skin grafts in extreme cases because they were branded by some sort of hot iron tool, and now they need new skin, or paddling gone wrong, causing permanent aesthetic and emotional damage to one's bottom. And that's usually like the light side of hazing. There is, they have these paddles in the fraternity houses that usually have, like, their fraternity names on there, and then they hit you with it.

• 26:14Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 26:15Speaker 01

  I mean, it's not, I don't know if it's standard for a lot of fraternities, but they, it seems to be a thing.

• 26:21Speaker 02

  Like spanking?

• 26:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:23Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 26:24Speaker 01

  Yeah. And that is usually considered the light side of hazing. There is the full-on sexual assault side of hazing as well. There's a lot of hazing lawsuits, but it's crazy that it's still a small percentage of all the different types of lawsuits fraternities face. And the fourth one, a lot of students also fall from fraternity houses. Like, a lot, like, when I was looking into this, I was very confused. They, they fall off of roofs while intoxicated, they fall out of open windows while trying to urinate out the window when they're intoxicated. Sometimes there will be a bunk bed next to an open window, and they'll be intoxicated, roll out of the bed, and then roll out the window, fall from fire escapes, fall from balconies. It happens way more often than I ever imagined,

• 27:07Speaker 01

  just a lot of, a lot of high falls. One would think, if insurance companies don't even want fraternities, why do colleges and universities want them on campus? It doesn't even make any sense. Even Cornell University, a lot of students are trying to ban Greek life. They're protesting against Greek life, and Cornell still keeps Greek life. Why? Colleges and universities, they benefit a lot from fraternities.

• 27:29Speaker 02

  Donations, or?

• 27:30Speaker 01

  Yes, a lot of donations, and most of them are not disclosed, but there is also, some people say it's, it could be the marketing aspect, the promise of being able to defy gravity and do a keg stand on a random Thursday night. That is more enticing to someone than getting student loans for whatever degree that they want. It's kind of like built-in marketing.

• 27:56Speaker 02

  Hmm, so this is the fun college life you're going to get, I see.

• 28:00Speaker 01

  And also, on top of that, there is a bottom-line incentive, it's deeply financially beneficial for a lot of these institutions. One random one that I hadn't even thought of was, a lot of these universities, they don't have to build and maintain more buildings for student housing. Because when you have all these sororities and fraternities, like some colleges, one in every eight students lives in a Greek life house. So that means less buildings, less insurance the school has to pay for those student dorms, because it's like by bed and by student, there's a lot of different umbrella coverages. I mean, one school is paying millions of dollars just on insurance for their dorms. Because, yeah, you wanna make sure that everything is covered if there's a fire and the building is insured

• 28:44Speaker 01

  if it burns down, but also if someone walks into the building and they slip on a puddle of water, they might sue the school, so you have to be insured for that as well. So these institutions are now saving money since Greek life and the chapter houses typically reduce the number of students that are, that need campus housing. It also allows institutions to expand the number of students they can admit, which means more tuition. But also, alumni who are part of Greek life seem to, at least according to one research done, seem more financially generous to their alma maters later in life, if they were part of Greek life. But I guess the question that's been coming up more recently is, is it really fucking worth it? Is it worth it to keep fraternities on campus when they appear to

• 29:24Speaker 01

  be quite dangerous? KaiFi is one of the oldest, if not the oldest, American fraternity. Apparently, it was three separate organizations that merged into one, and the oldest of the three that merged was an organization from Princeton that started in 1824. So it's like 201, 202 years old. America just turned 250. The entire fraternity has about 48 active chapters across the United States. It's said that they have close to 50,000 living members, and a chapter has been at Cornell, the Zai chapter, has been there since 1891. Yes, it's been around.

• 30:05Speaker 02

  Fifty thousand members at one time?

• 30:08Speaker 01

  No, they're all living members, so they're not all students, yeah.

• 30:11Speaker 02

  Oh, they're in the past, I see.

• 30:12Speaker 01

  Now, Jared Hoffman was a KaiFi pledge at the Cornell chapter years ago. So this is not even happening during this Jane Doe case, but this is highly relevant. And he recounts his hazing experience. So he's like, "I was a pledge, I was a member of KaiFi at Cornell, where all of this is happening, okay?" And he says that when he was a freshman, he had endured months of physical, emotional, and psychological damage. And I guess they're all, like, on the, this is the night of the initiation, they're all on the precipice of becoming a fully-fledged, fully-pledged KaiFi member, if they can just endure the next few hours. He alleges that he's sleep-deprived, physically exhausted, and quote, "I was blindfolded

• 30:57Speaker 01

  and tossed onto a sheet, flinging me up and down," like, they were just, like, tossing him up like this. And there, for the first time in my life, I was assayed. It happened quickly, hands reached under the waistband of my basketball shorts and slathered fistfuls of spicy mung all over my genitals. I felt shock and pain. What is mung, you ask? He says mung consisted of cold oatmeal, vinegar, hot sauce, and cayenne pepper smeared all over his genitals, but he did not consent to anyone touching him or inflicting this amount of pain. He says, I screamed bloody murder. A few minutes later, I was given a half gallon of milk to

• 31:38Speaker 01

  wash off my spicy junk. Then I was blindfolded again, made to crawl on my elbows and knees on hardwood and floors and pressured to solve a riddle that, as it turned out, had no actual answer. Finally, I collapsed. I was set in a coffin and lowered through a trapdoor into a secret chapter room where I was officially inducted into the fraternity. He says he was initiated and he starts living at the now infamous Kai Fi House at Cornell. He says, I made posters for parties, like the houses. Um, we had a great Fratsby party, sort of Great Gatsby. Frat, yeah. But inside, I was ashamed of my vulnerability and unable to articulate or process

• 32:22Speaker 01

  the pain I was in. I accepted the fraternity's offerings of access to drugs, alcohol, and girls, along with the social license to frame addiction as valor and sexual conquest as glory. There's a whole piece on this that Jared shares in The Cornell Sun, which was published recently. It's worth reading, but it's interesting to note that the house that Jared helped plan this great Fratsby party, the Kai Fi House, is now vacant. So this house that everybody's talking about now with the Jane Doe case has been shut down since 2024. The Zai chapter, actually of Kai Fi at Cornell, has been barred from campus after Jane Doe's incident.

• 33:02Speaker 02

  Oh, all from this?

• 33:03Speaker 01

  Yes, from 2024. And now in one of the now vacant rooms, a very important room for this case, one video shows someone walking through this empty room and there's garbage, leftover food everywhere, discarded furniture. There's this weird poster of a sorority. So it's a bunch of girls and all of their, it's like a class sorority photo. There's a fentanyl test. Why do you need a fentanyl test? There's beer cans, liquor bottles. It's now empty, but this house was not empty October of 2024, when this case allegedly occurs. October 19th. October 19th, 2024, at Cornell was kind of a busy day. There is an arrest made for ketamine at a fraternity,

• 33:47Speaker 01

  at Kai Fi, to be exact, a drug-related arrest at the same exact house. Now, the university does not place the fraternity on some sort of like interim suspension because they're gonna host another party that day. So Kai Fi, at the house, someone is arrested for ketamine-related offense. Okay?

• 34:08Speaker 02

  We don't know what it is.

• 34:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's, um, when you go through like little snippets of the Title IX investigation, which is the Jane Doe investigation that we're gonna kind of get into in a second, there are allegations that someone overdosed. And we do know that there was an arrest made because that was logged in the Cornell. There's like a crime log that they have, like a daily crime log.

• 34:30Speaker 02

  They arrested someone, maybe like supplying or?

• 34:34Speaker 01

  So we don't know if it was the same individual, if it was two different individuals, if someone is supplying and then someone overdosed, or if someone overdosed and that's how they found out that they were in possession of ketamine. But there was some sort of ketamine-related activity that was discovered October 19th at Kai Fi fraternity house. Now, this Kai Fi fraternity house is on Cornell campus, so it's not off-campus housing, which means it's technically under the jurisdiction of Cornell, right? Now, they do nothing to give any sort of temporary suspension to the fraternity house, which is what a lot of people expected, because it's like, hey, you're not supposed to have drugs on campus. We made an arrest at your house. We're gonna shut this house down. We're not kicking people out, but we're just gonna investigate and you guys

• 35:19Speaker 01

  lose your privileges of throwing fucking ragers and doing keg stands, because that's what happens, right? But they don't do that. Instead, 22 hours later, a sophomore, 20-year-old Jane Doe alleges that she went to Kai Fi for a party and was gang raped at the fraternity house for seven hours. The same Kai Fi, the fraternity that touts itself, their whole mission, their motto, is building better men. Their founding principles, they state, are truth, honor, and personal integrity. They have a creed of Kai Fi, and it reads in short, "I believe in the friendship

• 36:01Speaker 01

  of Kai Fi, whether on the road or in the chapter house. The hand of brotherhood is always extended. I believe in the Kai Fi fraternity. Truth, honor, and personal integrity are the foundations upon which Kai Fi is built. A man's word is his bond. Chivalrous behavior crosses the ages to touch the heart of Kai Fi." 20-year-old Jane Doe, this is obviously a pseudonym, but Jane Doe shares the relevant details of her starting at Cornell in her civil lawsuit. So this civil lawsuit dropped September of 2026. The incident is from 2024, and it seems like there was a big conversation

• 36:44Speaker 01

  at Cornell with people who knew fraternity members, with people who knew Jane Doe. There was an entire Title IX investigation at Cornell, but it never made national news. There were some official statements that Cornell released, but unless you were a student there, unless you knew what was going on, I mean, nobody was really talking about it. But in September of 2026, Jane Doe decides that she's going to sue not just Cornell, but her sorority, the Kai Fi fraternity, as well as seven members of Kai Fi, as well as another bar. We're gonna get into all of it. But this is when the entire case breaks open and she starts sharing the relevant details of her starting at Cornell. She joins Cornell, joins a sorority, and all of this falls apart her sophomore year. So she's already been there for about two years. And she says that the only

• 37:29Speaker 01

  reason that she even joined the sorority, she joined Tri Delta, which is Delta, Delta, Delta, Tri Delta, okay? So she joins the sorority because she felt like when she got to Cornell, they kept promoting Greek life as like a very vital part of the campus community. They were just, they made it seem like, oh, this is where you network and you make so many friends and it seems like a safe environment. So she joins Tri Delta. October 19th of 2024, she's at the Tri Delta sorority house with her sorority sisters, and they're just doing shots of vodka. Jane Doe is 20. She's not of legal drinking age, but she's completely intoxicated, as per her lawsuit, she alleges. Then at 8:30 PM, she states in her lawsuit that she gets into an Uber with her

• 38:11Speaker 01

  house mom, Jade. Now, side note, house moms of sororities are not like your big sisters, which is like you have a big and you have a little and this is another, you know, undergraduate student who's also just trying to figure out college. No, a house mom is kind of like a house director for a sorority. They're not college students. This is somebody who is salaried, who lives inside the house, who is like the operational manager. This is a hired professional. They oversee the building upkeep. They act as the onsite manager. They are caretakers. They order food for the sorority sisters or whoever lives in the house. They help operate the sorority house, plan the parties, facilitate, hire vendors. This is a professional, this is an adult. This is someone who is, you know, not a college kid.

• 38:56Speaker 02

  Are they, uh, school employees?

• 38:58Speaker 01

  No, they're employed by the national organization of each sorority and fraternity.

• 39:03Speaker 02

  Okay, so they're not associated with the school?

• 39:05Speaker 01

  Yes, they're not. Yes. And they're also not like the president of the sorority chapter, because that would be a student. So they're not associated with the school. Sometimes they're not even former members of the sorority or fraternity. They just get hired. It's like, you know, hiring a professional position. Yeah. The lawsuit alleges that she gets into an Uber with the house mom. So she's already like taking shots of vodka at the sorority house, getting into an Uber with her house mom. So this is not like another 20-year-old college kid. This is someone who is of legal, legal drinking age, who is supposed to kind of be a caretaker.

• 39:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:38Speaker 01

  She gets in the Uber and they go off-campus to a bar called Mooney's. Now, Mooney's is also a defendant in this civil lawsuit, where the bouncer, and I'm assuming they asked for her ID, they stamped these giant X's on both of Jane's hands, which, I mean, the lawsuit confirms the X's on her hands are to indicate to bartenders that Jane Doe is not of drinking age. She's 20. However, the lawsuit alleges that Mooney's is serving her drinks, alcoholic beverages. And there's like a whole, there's a bunch of sorority sisters at this event, at Mooney's, and they're all drinking despite the fact that she's underage at this establishment.

• 40:16Speaker 01

  Then around 10 PM, Jane Doe and a few of her sorority sisters, they walk over to a separate bar called Lot 10. Lot 10 is not listed as a defendant. She's given another under 21 wristband, and it would appear, at least from the filing, that they do not serve her any alcoholic beverages here. She's here for about an hour before she heads out and starts walking back to campus to meet up with a friend. This friend is Matthew Ingles. He's a fraternity brother at Kai Fi, and they have this huge, big fraternity house on campus at Cornell, the Kai Fi House, and she starts walking to the house. By this point, Jane thinks that she's probably had like 10 drinks in the past three hours.

• 40:55Speaker 02

  Damn, that's a lot.

• 40:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, and 10 drinks, I mean, because her lawsuit specified that at the sorority house, it was vodka. So I'm assuming it's not like, oh, I had 10 beers, which was also crazy. Yeah. She states that she is visibly intoxicated when she gets to the Kai Fi fraternity house.

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• 45:45Speaker 01

  It's clearly a very busy night for the college students. The KiFi fraternity house is hosting a Hawaii-themed party, which is an interesting choice for October 19th. But it's Hawaii-themed. And there's about three to four fraternity brothers standing outside by the front door. They let Jane in, and she spots her friend Matthew, right? This is the friend that she came for. He hands her a beer, and there's some sort of like dancing going on. Everybody's having a good time. And Jane and Matthew, they start dancing on the main room together. But after dancing for what has been described by Matthew as three to five minutes, it's unclear like how long it really was. Matthew pulls Jane off to the side, and she says, according to the lawsuit, he propositions her, asks her if she wants to have a threesome

• 46:30Speaker 01

  with another one of his fraternity brothers. Now, according to the lawsuit, Jane at this point is so drunk, she's not even capable of consenting to any of this. But Matthew just leads her upstairs, leaves her alone with one of the fraternity brothers. He's not a defendant in the lawsuit, so he just kind of leaves her with this random fraternity brother. And I guess they're just like awkwardly sitting on the couch. And it appears that Matthew eventually comes back. And as alleged in the lawsuit, he gets Jane and leads her to a separate room down the hall, where there's a separate fraternity brother sitting on a couch, Jonathan Newell. He is another defendant in this lawsuit. They're in what's called by the fraternity, the alumni room. The alumni room is a weird room.

• 47:14Speaker 01

  There's apparently three beds, a couch, and at least one chair. The fraternity apparently considers it a social room, but it's also like a bedroom for members. So there are people, that's their room. But it's kind of a social room in the sense that nobody locks it. It's an unlocked space where people congregate.

• 47:33Speaker 01

  According to the lawsuit, it seems Matthew is plopped up on the couch with Jonathan, and they start passing around this plastic bag containing a white powdery substance, which Jane says they said was ketamine. They start pressuring Jane into snorting ketamine with them. Jane has never done ketamine before. The lawsuit says during this time, defendant Matthew and Jonathan also plied plaintiff with marijuana and, quote, Jamaican liquor, believed to be some high-proof rum. Soon after, defendant Matthew and Jonathan began engaging in sexual acts with plaintiff, all without her consent. The lawsuit alleges that during the assault, Matthew, her so-called friend that she came for, forces oral. And Jonathan is behind her, forcing intercourse from behind.

• 48:17Speaker 01

  The filing states that throughout the entire assault, defendant Jonathan kept slapping Jane Doe on the buttocks multiple times that resulted in bruising. But at some point, the lawsuit states that Matthew could no longer maintain an erection. So he tells Jane Doe that he's gonna take a nap. So he just leaves this and hops onto a bed. So he doesn't leave the room. He just hops onto one of the three beds, and he falls asleep. Meanwhile, Jonathan keeps, according to the lawsuit, keeps trying to reach for her private parts down there, and she's swatting and like pushing his hand away. But he keeps trying. Soon after, it's alleged that another fraternity brother walks in, Jilio Lopes. Jane alleges that Jilio just grabs Jane from Jonathan. Okay, perhaps this is like the first decent individual

• 49:02Speaker 01

  that's going to be uncovered according to the sequence of events in this lawsuit, right? But no, he's not. It states that he grabs Jane so that he can just start kissing her. And then Jonathan gets up and comes up behind her and starts groping her from behind, again, specifically reaching for her private parts. And the lawsuit continues to state, defendant Jilio and Jonathan then placed Jane on a bed, and the two men begin having sex with Jane, initiating another assault, all without Jane's consent. At 1:42 a.m., Jonathan. So this is not her friend. So Matthew, her friend, is asleep. The one that invited her is now asleep on a bed. And Jonathan, the one that Matthew wanted to have a threesome with, allegedly, right? Sends a group message to the Zi Chapter Snapchat.

• 49:47Speaker 01

  So this is the KiFi fraternity. The Zi Chapter is Cornell's chapter. So it's called like Zi Actives, which means all of the active fraternity members, at KiFi, at Cornell, are in this group chat. And it's a 57-member Snapchat group.

• 50:04Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 50:05Speaker 01

  He sends a message where he claims there is quote free pussy.

• 50:10Speaker 02

  Is that the only thing like just free pussy that?

• 50:13Speaker 01

  He says free pussy alum PU. So free pussy alum because I think it means they're in the alumni room. Okay. And then PU typically stands for pull up. Maybe it means something else. Maybe I'm dense, but like, I'm pretty sure it means pull up. Now, this is where people say this is not the Cornell seven case. This is the Cornell fifty seven case because there are fifty seven fraternity brothers in that Snapchat group. And surely one of them must ask clarifying questions. Surely one of them must go check up on the individual to see if they're okay. Because this is not a normal message that can go out. If I got this message from someone that I am even remotely close to,

• 50:52Speaker 01

  even a stranger, I would be so confused. Maybe if you engaged in some sexual activity that was consensual and you texted some like, oh, I did some crazy stuff and said a derogatory name. Would that be expected? Maybe. Would that be morally reprehensible? Yes. But like I, this is just doesn't make any sense. This is not even something that happens in fraternity group chats that I can even wrap my mind around. I'm so confused. The responses that we can see as detailed in Jane Doe's lawsuit. Scott Norris, another member is a defendant in the lawsuit. He says free dot, dot, dot.

• 51:31Speaker 01

  So I don't know what that means. I don't know if he's restating it, asking a question, or if he's shocked by it, or if he's clarifying. Maybe he's like, what do you mean free? A guy named Ryan says this is crazy work. He's not a defendant. Scott K, who is a defendant, says Diego went seven minutes ago and is not AFK. So. AFK means active or available. So Scott K, there's like a whole thing. Okay. Scott, we're gonna get into Scott K later, but he later tells the school that he was in a separate room with a bunch of his friends. And his friend Diego, all of a sudden, just like abruptly gets up out of the room and leaves, which is kind of weird.

• 52:10Speaker 02

  Is that after the text, uh Snapchat?

• 52:12Speaker 01

  After the free pussy Snapchat. Yeah. So Diego left, but he hasn't seen it yet. So he claims. So Scott is like, I haven't seen this Snapchat yet. He just like Diego just like up and left, right? And then ten minutes go by, him and his other friend, his buddy, the other Scott, they pull up their phones and they're like, oh my God, this Snapchat. Like what's going on? And like Diego, maybe that's where Diego went because Diego left out of nowhere and he wasn't like, hey, guys, I'm gonna go get a drink. Like he just left. So then this text now says Diego went seven minutes ago and is not active, available. So.

• 52:42Speaker 02

  So saying like, almost like Diego is there.

• 52:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, ooh, like something must be happening. It like, okay, if I read it, this is my opinion because I don't know what's going on in Scott K's mind or what Scott K did or didn't do. However, when I'm reading this, I'm reading this as like, no, this must be legit because my buddy just went in there and he, I haven't seen him since.

• 53:03Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 53:04Speaker 01

  So like it, that's the tone that I picked up. I could be picking up the wrong things. Now, Matthew, the so-called friend of Jane Doe, the one that invited Jane Doe. I guess he wakes up and he starts responding into this Snapchat group. I fucking love Kai Phi. This is he invited Jane Doe. Then Winston responds Kai Phi, like all caps. Winston Lee is also a defendant. Scott K, back to Scott K. The names don't really matter. It's just more so the messages. The names will matter more later when I go through what each person indicated that they state happened that night. So Scott K says, the alumni shit is not a bit. First person POV, not a bit.

• 53:46Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 53:47Speaker 01

  Okay. Now he has like a whole explanation for this message later.

• 53:51Speaker 02

  He's saying like, I saw it with my own eyes. This is not fake.

• 53:55Speaker 01

  This is like no cap. Like that's basically what he's saying. Like not a bit, right? First person POV. Matthew, the so-called friend of Jane Doe, again responds, like you can walk in and whip it out. Which this part is not detailed in Jane Doe's lawsuit, but a different one. Um, more on that later. But apparently a picture of Jane Doe is shared into the Snapchat. She is, it's kind of vague of whether she's clothed or appears clo- it's not like um, an illegal picture in the sense that she was unclothed or engaged in activity that what she did not consent to being filmed. But it is a picture of her that she had no clue was taken. She had no clue it was sent into this Snapchat. She has no clue any of these Snapchats are being sent at the time that it's happening.

• 54:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:40Speaker 01

  And then someone responds, shop still open? Question mark? Another fraternity brother responds, yeah, devil face emoji. Another responds, redacted, laying right now. Low key, he's cucking all of us. Like what do you, what do you think that means? I mean, that means it seems like someone is watching some sort of sexual interaction because laying, like I think that's supposed to indicate like laying dick right now. Redacted laying right now. I don't know. That's just my interpretation. Okay. And then the next line is low key, he's cucking all of us. That makes it sound like there's all of us, a lot of guys in the room who are watching an interaction happen

• 55:23Speaker 01

  because usually that is the term cucking. Then another message, which appears to be from the friend Matthew, the so-called friend. Boys, come whip it out. Jane Doe was shown this picture of her that was shared in this Snapchat group later and she says, what in the world? I have no recollection of that whatsoever. She later states about that picture, the person that's smiling in that photograph, like that image is so upsetting to me. I look hammered in it. It doesn't appear that I'm wearing a shirt. My eyes are closed and I looked like, I look like a hammered sorority girl is what I call this image. I have absolutely zero recollection of this picture being taken.

• 56:01Speaker 01

  But continuing with the lawsuit, the lawsuit states that by Jonathan texting into the fraternity Snapchat, free pussy alum pull up or PU. Quote, in doing so, Jonathan organized and encouraged other Zai chapter members to join in on the gang rape of Jane in the Zai chapter fraternity house. At this point, fraternity members, brothers just start walking into the room. Jane says that she's trying to retreat under the covers of the bed. She's unclothed. She's naked. She's trying to hide. The lawsuit reads, soon after Diego Sarabia, so Diego, remember Diego went in there seven minutes ago and was offline. He approaches Jane and according to the lawsuit, grabs her face and starts kissing her without her consent and Jane pushes him away. Jane says that her phone is on the other side of the room and she feels like there's no way for her to escape this room.

• 56:46Speaker 01

  It's now filled with a bunch of fraternity guys. Most of them she doesn't even know. So just to quickly emphasize the potential depravity, we've barely made a dent in Jane Doe's lawsuit. It continues, defendant Jonathan then poured a line of ketamine on his erect penis and commanded that Jane snort it, which she did, is what the lawsuit says. Defendant Jonathan then gets into bed with Jane and begins groping her and reaching for her vagina again. Then as Jane is lying on her back on the bed, there's Matthew, her so-called friend. Jonathan, the guy that wanted to do the first threesome and he's, he's the one that is consistently tied to ketamine in this case.

• 57:30Speaker 01

  By the reporting. Then you have Winston Lee, Diego, who just came in and kissed Jane, according to the lawsuit. Scott Norris and Scott K make their way up there because remember Scott K was like firsthand POV, this is not a bit. Now, the lawsuit claims that they all start pouring lines of ketamine all over Jane's body, her unclothed body and start snorting ketamine off of her body. Eventually, most of the guys leave except for Matthew, so her friend stays, and Winston Lee. They take Jane into a smaller room upstairs, which is believed to be the fraternity president's office. So there's a separate lawsuit. It's John Doe, also sues Cornell. More on this later.

• 58:13Speaker 01

  But John Doe seems to be one of the accused, though I cannot say with certainty legally speaking which one it is, but you can read the lawsuit and kind of get context clues. But um, more on it later because there's a whole chapter nine investigation and one of the accused doesn't like the school's findings. It's like, I don't like the fact that I'm being punished for this because I don't think I did anything wrong. So they basically are trying to.

• 58:38Speaker 02

  That's why they're suing.

• 58:39Speaker 01

  Yes, Cornell. So there is a John Doe versus Cornell civil lawsuit as well.

• 58:44Speaker 02

  I see. And that one, you're saying not a lot of people are talking about the details, right?

• 58:49Speaker 01

  Not a lot of people are talking about it and this is the craziest thing. So remember the Epstein files where um, there was just a lot of failed redactions? I mean, it was failed redactions. What more can you say about it? Right? That was kind of the situation here.

• 59:02Speaker 02

  With the John Doe lawsuit. So basically Jane Doe investigation happened.

• 59:06Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 59:07Speaker 02

  And then shortly after, one of the.

• 59:09Speaker 01

  John Doe's.

• 59:10Speaker 02

  Sue Cornell as well because they didn't like the outcome.

• 59:13Speaker 01

  Yes, but this was prior to Jane Doe. So but nobody really.

• 59:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. This happened like years ago, right?

• 59:20Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 59:21Speaker 02

  And then until this year.

• 59:22Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 59:23Speaker 02

  The Jane Doe lawsuit came, came, became public.

• 59:25Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 59:25Speaker 02

  But nobody has talked about John Doe's lawsuit.

• 59:29Speaker 01

  Yes. So I do know that a lot of these big, I think ABC News has been getting their hands on, I don't know if they got the whole Title Nine investigation, which that is not publicly available and probably will never be publicly available. It's a Title Nine investigation. But I think they got it from like an inside source or something of that matter. And they've been releasing like random snippets every single day, just like here's another random line. But this John Doe lawsuit, because the essence of the lawsuit is, hey, we don't agree with the Title Nine investigation conclusion. There are lots of snippets of the Title Nine investigation that are obviously included in this lawsuit. So it's like a hundred page lawsuit and there's just a lot of, lot of information in there

• 1:00:12Speaker 01

  that we've pieced together and tried to cross. We're gonna get into all the cross referencing of who is who because. It's just a lot. It's a headache. But the lawsuit states that they have a room called The Pence. So I'm assuming like it's the president's room, the president of the fraternity, and it's upstairs. And next to that room is a smaller adjacent room called The Fofus. And this is not like a typo. I don't know if it's F office. I don't know if it's Fofus, Fofus. I don't, I don't know. It's unclear. But they bring her into this little Fofus, and it's tiny. It's kind of like a storage closet. It's not even an office. It's a little alcove with a desk, a computer, and two chairs. So it seems more like a storage closet, right? It's not like a big room. And once they're in there, the lawsuit details that Matthew

• 1:00:55Speaker 01

  and Winston make more lines of ketamine, and they instruct Jane to snort one, which she does. And by this point, Jane says that she is completely incapacitated. And quote, "Therefore, defendant Matthew and Winston initiated another assault of Jane, forcing oral and vaginal sex upon her simultaneously. At around 5:45 a.m., this assault concluded, and plaintiff lost consciousness." Jane wakes up later that day. Now it's October 20th, and she goes back to the sorority house. She's in a state of shock. She says that she notices this large bruise on her butt area. And out of fear, she started taking, I guess out of fear, she started taking UTI medication as a preemptive measure. And it's not until

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  later that day, she starts becoming aware of what exactly happened to her at the frat house the night before, and how this is all, like, it's all becoming public knowledge. Everyone's finding out about what happened on the Cornell campus. Jane's friends are encouraging her to report the incident. She eventually does November 8th. That's the first time she goes to campus police, the CUPD, Cornell University Police Department, and she reports exactly what happened that day, or what she alleges happened that day. The ZI chapter is placed on a instant temporary suspension for alleged violations of the Student Code of Conduct. Temporary suspensions were also issued for several students, including the Cornell Seven. So Matthew Ingles, Jonathan Newell, Winston Lee, Jillio Lopes, Diego

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  Sarabia, Scott Norris, and Scott Kretschmer. So according to Jane Doe's lawsuit, they are temporarily suspended, but some of them are given an opportunity. According to the lawsuit, Cornell says more or less, "Hey, show us how sorry you are by writing essays." The lawsuit says, quote, "who were afforded the opportunity to mitigate their conduct by submitting essays to Cornell." So just another timeline overview. This incident allegedly occurs October 19th, October 20th. Jane Doe goes to the campus police November 8th. The very first Cornell statement in 2024 about this incident is November 26th, during Thanksgiving break, two days before Thanksgiving, actually. Cornell releases a statement, very

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  quietly almost, titled "Update on Disturbing Allegations of Sexual Violence." It's as much of a non-statement as a statement can be. They're investigating the serious and deeply disturbing allegations of drug abuse and sexual violence at the Chi Phi fraternity house. Cornell's Office of Student Conduct has been diligently reviewing all information regarding the allegations. They have taken a number of actions, including what? Addressing immediate health, safety, and educational concerns. Whatever that means, okay, they state that they are temporarily suspending the fraternity, and temporary suspensions were issued for a number of students. They urge anyone who has experienced or is aware of sexual misconduct to report it via their online reporting tool. And quote, "For many,

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  these have been a difficult few weeks, with events that have challenged how we see each other and think about our community." What the fuck does that mean? "I am confident that our community will rise to this challenge as it has to others, and continue to pursue our individual and collective goals throughout the academic year. I wish all Cornellians a restful Thanksgiving break with loved ones, family, and friends. Sincerely, interim President Michael Kotlikoff." So this is before he becomes, he was an interim president at the time.

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  Oh, two years ago, got it.

• 1:04:22Speaker 01

  Yes. Yeah, the one that probably should be a bit more careful when he reverses out of parking spots. That one, okay? Now, I have to say, the timing of this statement is intriguing to me. Thanksgiving break, students are off campus, perhaps unable to protest or block his car once more. Look, I'm just speculating. I'm giving opinions right now. I don't know for sure what students would have done. The general public is also very busy with Thanksgiving festivities, and I highly doubt news reporters and journalists are combing through Cornell's official statement websites to look for any suspicious activity. And there is a very general vagueness to the statement that I can't help but think it's very intentional, the timing and vagueness. January 14th of 2025. So this is October.

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  Now we're in January. Cornell commences a Title IX investigation into Jane Doe's formal complaint. Title IX is a federal law that, in short, just to like simplify it, okay, because it is a pretty extensive law. It prohibits sex-based discrimination, including sexual harassment and essay in educational programs that receive federal financial assistance. And Cornell receives like a billion dollars, just so much money of federal assistance. So of course, Title IX, very important. Now, a Title IX investigation commences in January, and they put together this panel. So when you hear me say panel, just think Title IX investigation. So it's no longer with the Cornell University Police Department. It's now the Title IX investigation. They're going to investigate what occurred. There's going

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  to be a lot on this Title IX investigation. So-

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  Cornell is investigating?

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  Yes.

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  Themselves?

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  Yes, basically. So they have like a little panel. They have a lawyer on there. But these are not, these are not federal prosecutors. These are not prosecutors who are equipped to handle victims who might have been sexually assaulted and know how to investigate these things. They probably do not have subpoena power and search warrant power like a prosecutor's office would have, a DA's office would have. It is a Title IX investigation. Cornell, through a Title IX investigation, no matter what they find, they cannot press charges. They have no authority to take this criminally in any way. Now, it's unclear where the missing months go. It could be that Jane was busy with school or healing or was too traumatized to speak to anyone. But it's just, I think it's kind

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  of weird that there's such a big gap. They finally commence it in January, and then be that as it may, right? It's really in May of 2025 that things start really kicking up. That's when the Title IX office holds at least like 12 hearings regarding Jane's allegations. And at the end of the Title IX investigation, it appears that two of the accused are expelled. Two of the accused are suspended but are allowed to return. One of them was allowed to return after three semesters.

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  Who is expelled?

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  Um, Matthew and Jonathan are expelled. Yes. And then it is Winston and Jillio that are suspended. So those are the other two that were involved in-

• 1:07:21Speaker 02

  Sexual-

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  Activity is how people keep phrasing it so far.

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  I see.

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  Right. But Matthew is the one that initiated it, is the one that invited her. Jonathan is the one that sent the free pussy alum. He's also the one that-

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  The ketamine.

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  He is, you know, is always tied to the ketamine in reports. And then Winston and Jillio were the other ones that were involved in the conduct. But maybe, I guess, the schools thought it was not as egregious as the other two, I guess. I could only assume because that is a difference in the sanctions.

• 1:07:52Speaker 02

  So why, why are people, so they were expelled?

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  Yes, two of them are expelled.

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  Suspended, but they are back, Winston.

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  It's unclear if Winston is back. There could have been a transfer. He could have been, he could have come back. But Jillio is back. He was seen on campus like last week, and someone recorded him. Yeah, he's back. He's graduating. He's on campus. The other three also receive academic sanctions. We're going to get into it, but exactly zero are charged. Zero of them of the seven are investigated by the local DA's office. Meanwhile, Jane Doe drops out of school after the alleged assault. And outside of Cornell and those who know these individuals, nobody really knows about this. This is not on the news. This is not made public. The DA's office doesn't make public statements that get attention

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  at the time. Nobody knows about this alleged seven-hour gang rape inside of a fraternity house at Cornell University until this year, until two years later, when Jane Doe files a civil lawsuit suing Cornell University, Tri Delta, her former sorority, Chi Phi, the fraternity, Mooney's Bar, and the Seven Fraternity Brothers. Jane Doe states, "What I experienced from those who raped me in the fraternity was the worst experience of my life. I was brutalized, and it injured me physically, but perhaps more importantly, emotionally. I want to recover from this trauma, but it is extremely difficult. It affects every aspect of my life. It will haunt me and be part of me for the rest of my life." And

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  this case gets picked up instantly after Jane Doe's lawsuit by almost every single mainstream media news outlet in the United States. Celebrities start posting pictures of the Cornell Seven, and it completely blows up. And that is where I leave you with the first half of the Cornell Seven. In the second half of this episode, we're going to go through the weirdest statements made by the DA's office. It's just bizarre. Like, the way that the DA's office is handling it now in 2026 is something that I have never seen before, as well as further allegations and text messages that are being released. That's all going to be covered in the second half. Stay safe. That's going to come up as soon as I can edit, and I will see you in the next one.

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