More Rosebud - Gyles's Diary episode 50

It's 1980, a momentous beginning to a momentous decade, and Gyles is here to guide you through his own personal - yet universal - 80s experience as he reads selected extracts from the genuine diaries he kept at the time. He's now in his thirties, father of three, owner of two houses, businessman, and all-round powerhouse. In this episode we hear about Sooty and Sweep, pumpkins, Margaret Thatcher and golden moments. Enjoy this, diary fans! Don't forget to subscribe to our YouTube here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoZLtkZi4v5b2WzerOf0ACA. Join The Rosebud Family here https://open.acast.com/networks/682f0de710ca442d5f244250/shows/6835e960944c948b9a623f10/episodes/www.patreon.com/rosebud. And visit our website here https://www.rosebudpodcast.co.uk/. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 1:25Speaker 03

  Welcome to the world of Rosebud. It's a Tuesday when this is dropping, which means that this is more Rosebud. We don't mind when you listen. We're just thrilled that you are listening. I say we because we're with more Rosebud. It isn't just me, Gyles Brandreth. It's my friend, colleague, producer, Harriet Jane. Harriet, how are you today?

• 1:44Speaker 04

  I'm fine, thanks, Giles.

• 1:45Speaker 03

  How is, because this, we're putting this out in September 2026. Whenever you listen to it, that's when we're putting it out. How is September for you as a month?

• 1:56Speaker 04

  Oh, that's a big question. Um, it definitely never goes away, does it, the September feeling?

• 2:06Speaker 03

  That's interesting because I've been thinking about it because we're going on obviously today with my diaries. And my diaries are beginning a new decade as well as a new year. We're going to be starting on the 1st of January 1980 in a moment. But I've been reflecting this September that the year for me still, even though I don't have, I'm not at school anymore, university, neither are my children or even, well, my grandchildren are. But I still feel that the year sort of begins in September.

• 2:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think a lot of people do, and I think I do.

• 2:37Speaker 03

  And I have September collie wobbles.

• 2:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:40Speaker 03

  I have a sense of apprehension, anxiety, anticipation. Some of it's quite exhilarating. Oh, we're going to get this done, that done. I began September in almost a manic state. And then at that week when I think a lot of the schools did go back, and certainly I was very conscious of it because I had grandchildren going back to school, going back to university, and one of them, starting his first job.

• 3:05Speaker 04

  That is exciting.

• 3:07Speaker 03

  Well, it's amazing. He's a graduate and he got a job.

• 3:11Speaker 04

  That is amazing.

• 3:12Speaker 03

  I mean, genuinely, people have told me in this world, and his parents and other people said, take the job. Whatever it is, take the job. At least you've got a job. And I saw him the day before and he was getting his haircut and he'd worked out he should wear a suit. And he should wear a white shirt and take a pocket, take a tie in his pocket, you know. And he thought he was going to go by tube and then take a bicycle. And then he thought, well, yeah, I don't want to arrive sweating on the first day. So he'd take a tube to, and all that. But the company were very decent because they said, come, all, everybody come at 8:00 AM and all have breakfast together. The new recruits. So the 20 of them joining the company on the same day, all getting, so, but that also added to my sense of, oh.

• 3:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:54Speaker 03

  New term, new beginnings. Are you a bit like that in September?

• 3:59Speaker 04

  Oh, definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, can I say something a bit depressing?

• 4:05Speaker 03

  Of course. It is.

• 4:07Speaker 04

  I hope people, I know, I know. Sorry, guys, listeners. I don't mean to bring the mood down. I think I'm quite a jolly person, but also, as you know, in my past, there's tragedy.

• 4:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:18Speaker 04

  My mum took her own life in September, on the 29th of September. And I remember someone saying to me that sometimes people do that at times of hope and newness and renewal because they think I don't have that feeling. Or they feel unable or unable to meet it or to, to, yeah. And I often think of September as being a difficult time for people. I mean, yeah, if you've got that sense of excitement and things to do and get on with, then it's a good time

• 4:59Speaker 04

  because you feel like you do, productive and hooray, I'm getting, going to pack my satchel and get my new school uniform on. And, you know, that's fun. Put all my pencils in color coded order. And if you're the sort of person that really enjoys all of that, then I think September's a good time. But I think if, for whatever reason, you feel your life isn't quite going as you'd like to, then it's a time of reckoning and of reassessment and, and possibly, for someone like my mum, she just thought, oh, my life really isn't where I want it to be. But sorry, can I say this on a podcast?

• 5:37Speaker 03

  Of course you can.

• 5:38Speaker 04

  It feels, I don't know, there are.

• 5:40Speaker 03

  No, can I say?

• 5:41Speaker 04

  I don't want to make anyone listening think, oh no, I feel terrible about, I don't know, I don't want to.

• 5:49Speaker 03

  Well, the reason.

• 5:51Speaker 04

  I don't want to make people think really dismal thoughts at this time of year because I think September is essentially a great time and a time of potential and of getting things.

• 6:00Speaker 03

  The 29th of September is also the 80th birthday of Patricia Hodge.

• 6:05Speaker 04

  Yes, it's a good day to.

• 6:07Speaker 03

  So it's a lovely day as well as being a heartbreakingly sad day.

• 6:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:11Speaker 03

  But that is life, the complexity of life.

• 6:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:15Speaker 03

  And I always love, admire and respect the way you talk openly about your story and your mother's story. Her name was Patience, Pash, known to her friends as Pash, because she's still here.

• 6:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:32Speaker 03

  In you and in the way we talk about her. And that is something that happened that you can't deny, can't take away. And I think your openness about it, A does you credit. And from the emails that we get, I think people find it more helpful than distressing.

• 6:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:50Speaker 03

  And I think there is also something too, certainly my wife feels about September, nothing to do with the newness, but about the winter nights drawing in.

• 6:57Speaker 04

  Oh, absolutely.

• 6:58Speaker 03

  The end of summer, the fact that autumn is, a lot of people love autumn. They love the colors of autumn, the leaves and all of that.

• 7:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:06Speaker 03

  But other people feel it's getting darker. It's getting, you know.

• 7:10Speaker 04

  But I have to say, I think the three months before Christmas are very, very exciting. So I was looking, I was suddenly starting to think about Christmas because you do, don't you, in September? I think the bad months of winter are the January, February, March, the after Christmas.

• 7:28Speaker 03

  The bleak, the bleak midwinter.

• 7:30Speaker 04

  There's nothing to look, well, you look forward to spring, but winter's too long by that point. But no, September, October, November, December, it's all fun and games.

• 7:39Speaker 03

  I have to say, I'm hoping to persuade Michelle to start coming to church regularly with me again.

• 7:44Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. That's a good thing to do in the winter.

• 7:48Speaker 03

  Well, also, I love the idea of Advent.

• 7:50Speaker 04

  So do I.

• 7:51Speaker 03

  And, you know, and waking up to Christmas and all of that and all the traditions stirred up Sunday.

• 7:56Speaker 04

  Do they do the Harvest Festival?

• 7:58Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 7:58Speaker 04

  I love that. And you get all the tins on the altar.

• 8:01Speaker 03

  I know, it's so funny.

• 8:02Speaker 04

  Dinner baked beans and a pack of corset.

• 8:04Speaker 03

  Funny idea that. But also, there's, what are those big orange things? Turnips.

• 8:09Speaker 04

  A pumpkin.

• 8:09Speaker 03

  Pumpkins, turnips. You see, I don't know much about the countryside, but I love a turnip. I love.

• 8:15Speaker 04

  You love a pumpkin?

• 8:16Speaker 03

  I love a pumpkin.

• 8:16Speaker 04

  Do you carve it?

• 8:18Speaker 03

  Of course I carve it.

• 8:19Speaker 04

  Oh, God, this, I have to say, we're coming up for some of the best months.

• 8:22Speaker 03

  We are, we are.

• 8:24Speaker 04

  Halloween, bonfire night.

• 8:26Speaker 03

  Oh, can I, I've got an objection to Halloween.

• 8:28Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 8:29Speaker 03

  Only because it's an American import. It's now, it's now overtaken bonfire night. The fifth, remember, remember the 5th of December?

• 8:36Speaker 04

  November.

• 8:36Speaker 03

  Forgive me, that's crap.

• 8:38Speaker 04

  I mean, you can remember the 5th of December if you want.

• 8:41Speaker 03

  Remember, remember the 5th of November. What, how does that go on? Gunpowder, treason, gunpowder, treason and plot. That's where the buzz goes on. Yes. Guy Fawkes, blowing up Parliament. That was the big thing. Now Halloween, this American import has rather overtaken it.

• 8:59Speaker 04

  No, but Halloween was a thing. It just wasn't the thing they've turned it into, which is a fancy dress parade.

• 9:05Speaker 03

  We are now agreeing that autumn, the season of fruits.

• 9:09Speaker 04

  Mists and mellow fruitfulness.

• 9:10Speaker 03

  Mists and mellow fruitfulness is a good thing.

• 9:14Speaker 04

  Oh, it's brilliant.

• 9:15Speaker 03

  We've got September almost out of the way. The stomach churning is done. We're coming up to October, November, December, three literally golden months.

• 9:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:26Speaker 03

  Wonderful.

• 9:27Speaker 04

  You can't beat it. So, um.

• 9:29Speaker 03

  But this is leading up to the 1st of January 1980. What I'm saying is that for many people, still in my head, the year begins with the academic year, even though I'm no longer at school.

• 9:37Speaker 04

  Agreed.

• 9:37Speaker 03

  So that's the way it is.

• 9:38Speaker 04

  Well, you pioneered the academic year diary, Giles.

• 9:40Speaker 03

  I did, as we read about in my diaries.

• 9:42Speaker 04

  I know.

• 9:43Speaker 03

  And there's going to be more of that in just a moment, of my little business ambitions back in 1980 when Mrs. Thatcher was there making us all feel.

• 9:50Speaker 04

  Oh, she just put a rocket under this country, didn't she?

• 9:54Speaker 03

  Turbocharged the country. That's our view. Other views are available.

• 9:57Speaker 04

  I don't know if that is my view. Don't tie me up with your politics.

• 10:00Speaker 03

  No, well, I was, I don't, I no longer really have politics.

• 10:04Speaker 04

  I don't either.

• 10:04Speaker 03

  I'm engaged with it because I have a daughter who's a member of Parliament and I think.

• 10:08Speaker 04

  I'm not.

• 10:09Speaker 03

  I know.

• 10:10Speaker 04

  I'm not engaged with it.

• 10:11Speaker 03

  But you're taking interest in my family?

• 10:13Speaker 04

  No, no, I, no, I'm engaged with your family, but I'm not engaged with politics really.

• 10:16Speaker 03

  Well, when we were in Edinburgh in the summer and I went to meet Count Binface.

• 10:20Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 10:21Speaker 03

  The runner up in the Clacton by-election.

• 10:23Speaker 04

  Oh, tell us about that, Giles.

• 10:24Speaker 03

  No, but you weren't interested in coming. I said, come along to meet Count Binface. And you said, no, one counts as much like another.

• 10:29Speaker 04

  I think I had friends there or something.

• 10:31Speaker 03

  They could have come too, but it doesn't matter.

• 10:33Speaker 04

  Anyway, tell, tell us, tell us.

• 10:34Speaker 03

  He was funny and likeable.

• 10:36Speaker 04

  Hmm. And he had the bin on, did he at the time?

• 10:39Speaker 03

  He was in full, full bin kit.

• 10:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 10:41Speaker 03

  Um, and he was amusing and I told him, I'm a swing bin voter. Hadn't decided, hadn't made up my mind.

• 10:46Speaker 04

  That's fun. Did you make that up?

• 10:48Speaker 03

  I made that up on the spot.

• 10:50Speaker 04

  Oh, I love that.

• 10:50Speaker 03

  And I turned up with a big swag bag. He said, what's in the bag? I said, your £5 million. Because he was standing up against Nigel Farage and Clacton. And I have to say, what I thought about him was, why I like being British is having a sense of humor.

• 11:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:05Speaker 03

  I love that we have these candidates. I mean, when I was an MP back in the 1990s, as I think I've told you, the monster raving Looney Party.

• 11:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:14Speaker 03

  Didn't stand against me. They said, we're going to give you a free run because you're our kind of guy.

• 11:19Speaker 04

  You're a monster aiming looney.

• 11:20Speaker 03

  But I like all that. I think.

• 11:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, I know.

• 11:23Speaker 03

  A politician without a sense of humour is not somebody we really, really want.

• 11:27Speaker 04

  No, well, Mrs Thatcher.

• 11:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, didn't have a great sense of humour. You know my favourite line about Mrs Thatcher.

• 11:32Speaker 04

  I do.

• 11:33Speaker 03

  Repeat it. Mrs Thatcher did not have a great sense of humour, which made me think.

• 11:38Speaker 04

  That must have made bringing up Mark quite challenging.

• 11:40Speaker 03

  Yay. We do comedy too. We're available. Not the two Ronnies, but Elliot and Giles. Yes. But we're continuing with my diaries.

• 11:50Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 11:50Speaker 03

  Um, which is quite fun.

• 11:52Speaker 04

  And it's nineteen eighty. Feels like a exciting moment to be going into the eighties, doesn't it?

• 11:57Speaker 03

  Does.

• 11:58Speaker 04

  What a decade.

• 11:59Speaker 03

  It was an extraordinary decade.

• 12:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:01Speaker 03

  And I was there. Tuesday, the first of January nineteen eighty. Welcome to nineteen eighty. A new year and a new resolve. We're going to get on top of our mountain of mortgages and start making some serious sums. We have a raft of good books planned for a widening range of publishers. Do you remember, Michelle, my wife and I, we had a little business creating books for publishers. We were called Book Packages.

• 12:30Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 12:31Speaker 03

  In the next seven days, I'm having lunches with Anthony Cheatham. He's planning to start his own business and needs a product. Tony Lacey from Puffin, Sally Floyer from Beaver Books, Nigel Hollis from Hutchinson, son of the spy. But was he, wasn't he? Even the son doesn't know. Anyway, the aim is to sell at least a book a week. Plus the diaries, calendars, games, et cetera. Currently, I have around one hundred ideas on my list. I'll be writing less and packaging more. Onward.

• 13:04Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 13:05Speaker 03

  Domestic start to the new year. Yesterday, we took a party of children to Sooty at the Mayfair Theatre. Sooty still works for me, though Sweep is the star. Can't stand Sue.

• 13:18Speaker 04

  Poor old Sue. She is a bit condescending, isn't she?

• 13:22Speaker 03

  Oh, is she? I think she's just wet.

• 13:24Speaker 04

  No, I think she's patronising.

• 13:27Speaker 03

  I also think when I was a very little boy in the nineteen fifties, when Harry Corbett, not Matthew Corbett, was doing Sooty. Sue wasn't on the scene.

• 13:35Speaker 04

  No.

• 13:36Speaker 03

  It was just Sooty and Sweep.

• 13:37Speaker 04

  Were they worried it was, um?

• 13:38Speaker 03

  No, it was a bromance. It was a bromance.

• 13:41Speaker 04

  Worried about the gay overtones? Why did they introduce Sue?

• 13:43Speaker 03

  I don't know. But I imagine because they wanted a girl character.

• 13:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 13:47Speaker 03

  Because Sooty and Sweep were clearly male characters.

• 13:49Speaker 04

  Oh, they are. Yeah.

• 13:49Speaker 03

  So that's what they wanted.

• 13:50Speaker 04

  Sweep is cute, isn't he?

• 13:51Speaker 03

  Sweep. Did you ever have a sweep puppet?

• 13:53Speaker 04

  No.

• 13:54Speaker 03

  Oh, I still got it. I still got my sweep puppet. And the inside, the palm, you, with your extra fingers, you know, you've got. Uh, I never know what the fingers are called. You have one thumb in one paw.

• 14:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:05Speaker 03

  The third finger.

• 14:07Speaker 04

  That's called the third finger, yeah.

• 14:08Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 14:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:09Speaker 03

  The third finger is in the right paw.

• 14:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:12Speaker 03

  And the.

• 14:13Speaker 04

  Index finger.

• 14:14Speaker 03

  Index finger is in the head.

• 14:14Speaker 04

  Peter Pointer.

• 14:15Speaker 03

  Peter Pointer is the index. That's in the head. And that leaves you with two smaller fingers.

• 14:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:20Speaker 03

  Uh, what, what are they called?

• 14:21Speaker 04

  The ring finger and the little finger.

• 14:23Speaker 03

  The ring finger and the little finger. Hey.

• 14:25Speaker 04

  Ruby ring, ruby ring, where are you? Do you not know that song?

• 14:30Speaker 03

  I've never heard that song.

• 14:31Speaker 04

  Here I am, here I am, how do you do? Peter Pointer, Peter Pointer. Do you know that song about the hand?

• 14:39Speaker 03

  The good news is.

• 14:40Speaker 04

  God, the winter nights used to fly by in Devon, I can tell you.

• 14:43Speaker 03

  It's fantastic. And next year, everybody, we are going to be on camera. So you could have seen her. She was actually doing little, with her hand, little dance movements.

• 14:51Speaker 04

  So you can remember the names of the fingers, Giles.

• 14:53Speaker 03

  Absolutely delightful. Anyway, with the, with the ring finger and the little finger.

• 14:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:58Speaker 03

  You press them against the squeaker.

• 15:00Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 15:01Speaker 03

  Inside Sweep. So Sweep could squeak.

• 15:05Speaker 04

  Brilliant.

• 15:05Speaker 03

  Yeah. So where were we? So every year, Sooty turned up at the Mayfair Theatre. And we used to go. And it was great fun.

• 15:14Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 15:15Speaker 03

  We've just driven Catherine and Charlie, that's my niece and nephew, back to St Albans where they live. We're now going to the BBC to watch Simon Cadell recording his Heidi High pilot. He plays a reluctant holiday camp manager. It's set in the nineteen fifties. He says it's very funny. We shall see.

• 15:36Speaker 04

  That's a landmark moment.

• 15:37Speaker 03

  Yeah. So we were there.

• 15:40Speaker 04

  Gosh.

• 15:40Speaker 03

  And I thought he was quite funny.

• 15:41Speaker 04

  I loved Heidi High.

• 15:43Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, there we are. And, um, I mean, it was created by David Croft and Jimmy Perry. And it ran, I think, right through the nineteen eighties. And Simon, my friend, of course, then later married David's daughter, Becky, who you know.

• 15:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:59Speaker 03

  And who helps us out sometimes with rosebud.

• 16:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:01Speaker 03

  Anyway, uh, it's set in the nineteen fifties. He says it's very funny. We shall see. Alan Wicker sent me this little bit of wisdom with which to start the new year. Judge a man by the way he treats someone of no use to him.

• 16:17Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 16:18Speaker 03

  Good bit of wisdom.

• 16:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:20Speaker 03

  I liked Alan Wicker.

• 16:21Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 16:22Speaker 03

  Friday, the eighteenth of January nineteen eighty. Recruiting new writers. Martin Bergman and Rory McGrath came round. Ex Cambridge Footlights. Not a load of laughs on the face of it, but we'll see. I need someone to write the Irish Kama Sutra.

• 16:39Speaker 04

  Oh, crumbs.

• 16:41Speaker 03

  Recruiting new talent. I went over to Seventeen Pound Muir Gardens, SW fifteen, to see Patrick Fife.

• 16:47Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 16:47Speaker 03

  Also known as Dame Hilda Brackett. He has permed curly blonde hair and a very sweet way with him. He lives the life of Dame Hilda Brackett, lives it completely. His sitting room is all anti-McCasas and Edwardian bric-a-brac and wants to write her autobiography. When he's being Patrick, there's something a touch pathetic about him. When he switches into Dame Hilda, he acquires a personality. He becomes funny and fun.

• 17:15Speaker 04

  Gosh. So was he Dame Hilda kind of in his downtime as well?

• 17:21Speaker 03

  No. In his downtime, he was Patrick. He was sweet. He was a bit down.

• 17:30Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 17:31Speaker 03

  But when he talked about Dame Hilda, he went into the voice. So he didn't need to be in the full costume.

• 17:36Speaker 04

  Ah.

• 17:36Speaker 03

  He would then become Dame Hilda. And then a new authority.

• 17:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:41Speaker 03

  Came to him, you know?

• 17:43Speaker 04

  Wonderful.

• 17:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:44Speaker 04

  Great having an alter ego, isn't it?

• 17:46Speaker 03

  It is. Well, I, can I say, I rather feel that when we are, we're together on the microphone.

• 17:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:51Speaker 03

  We become a little bit different.

• 17:53Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 18:03Speaker 02

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• 19:39Speaker 03

  Friday, the twenty fifth of January nineteen eighty. A long day in Stacton Tressle. That's the imaginary village where Dame Hilda Brackett and Doctor of Adney Hidge had their home. Followed by an even longer evening at The Undertaking. Oh, this is the play that Kenneth Williams was in. It is open to the fortune, but it can't last. Drinks afterwards with the producer Bill Kenwright, amiable, the author Trevor Baxter, fruity, the star Kenneth Williams, morose. The leading lady, Miriam Carlin, just normal. Gosh, I like that. She knows it's rubbish, but hopes it works because she could use the money. It's a long time since the rag trade. Remember a series called The Rag Trade?

• 20:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't, I never saw it, but I remember the name.

• 20:26Speaker 03

  Brought her to fame. She was a really nice, straightforward woman, actually, and great fun to know. Tuesday, the fifth of February nineteen eighty. A ridiculous day. I arrived at the office, the ground floor of the house next door, to find Leo, our new bookkeeper, already there on all fours, awash, mopping up a lake of water around her. Last night, she worked late and left the taps running in the bath. The bathroom on the ground floor contains a bath. We've covered it with a board and use it for the coffee things, but the bath still works. Leo, bless her, is a Buddhist and she likes to have the sound of running water in the background while she prays.

• 21:11Speaker 03

  Yesterday, she was here alone. I was with Kenneth all afternoon and then went straight off to supper with Jonathan Cecil. Leo finished work, then got out her prayer mat and her bells and turned on the bath taps. When she'd finished her spiritual endeavours, she was on such a high that she set off home without remembering to turn off the taps. The carpet in the bathroom, hallway and front office look ruined. Bah.

• 21:40Speaker 04

  Well, that is silly. Why did she leave the plug in?

• 21:45Speaker 03

  No, I don't think she did. I think it would have been much, much worse if she had. What happened is she left the taps on because she wanted running water. It was running out, but the taps meant it was full, so it kept overflowing.

• 21:59Speaker 04

  It wouldn't have done if the plug was open.

• 22:02Speaker 03

  Well, I don't know. If the egress was not

• 22:08Speaker 03

  open to the ingress, more was coming in than going out. Anyway, maybe she did.

• 22:13Speaker 04

  She must have put the plug in.

• 22:14Speaker 03

  Maybe she did. Maybe she was trying to create a little... Anyway, what a nightmare.

• 22:18Speaker 04

  What a nightmare. Oh, these Buddhists, they're an absolute pain.

• 22:23Speaker 04

  No one ever says that about Buddhists, do they?

• 22:25Speaker 03

  No, they don't. And for good reason. They're lovely people. And one of the reasons I got, gave her the job is I thought, oh, I'm going to have an accountant who's a Buddhist. She'll be straightforward. She'll be honest.

• 22:33Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 22:34Speaker 03

  And she'll be committed. And she was. I didn't know she was going to take out her prayer mat and her bells at work and require hot and cold running water to pray by.

• 22:44Speaker 04

  It's a lovely idea, though. I might start doing that here.

• 22:49Speaker 03

  I'm just in from lunch with Hayley Mills at Sambuca. Well, it shows you how long I've known Hayley Mills, isn't it? This is forty-six years ago. We've only just had her and her sister on Rosebud. Gosh. It really was ridiculous. I really was ridiculous. I told her how I'd loved her since I was eleven. She smiled. Oh, God. We held hands. It was absurd at every level. We were having supper with Chris Biggins, but he's just phoned to cancel. Tomorrow, I'm off to Norwich at dawn to record some epilogues for Anglia. Then on to Nottingham to see Simon in Private Lives.

• 23:30Speaker 03

  Funny life I'm leading. Wednesday, nineteenth March, nineteen eighty. I spent the morning with Larry Grayson. Gosh. We travelled in his chauffeur-driven white Rolls Royce to the photographer to get the pictures taken for the book. Larry was, well, he was happy as Larry. He always is. Kenneth is demanding. Patrick Fife is needy, but Larry is just grateful. He sat in the back of his car, a cashmere rug across his knees, simply beaming. Isn't the snow lovely? Isn't life grand? Aren't you a pretty boy, Giles? Pity about the wife and kiddies.

• 24:11Speaker 03

  He is so thrilled with his sudden late-life success. What a surprise! What a gay day! His act is limited, but his charm is infinite.

• 24:21Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 24:23Speaker 03

  And he is entirely at ease with his homosexuality. I don't think much happens, but I doubt that it bothers him. Kenneth, on the other hand, talks about his non-existent sex life all the time. The last time anything happened in that department, so he says, was after the war in Salon with a young Sikh. It was only fumbling, just the Barclays Bank. Kenneth is tortured. Guilt, desire, disgust. They're all there, bubbling away. Patrick Fife is not so tortured, but he is unhappy. He's not brooding about sex, I don't think. He is hungry for love. He wants a companion. He wants to be a good man's wife.

• 25:05Speaker 03

  And the photographer has love but won't admit it. He has a boyfriend, but we never see him. He was there this morning, the boyfriend, I'm sure, but locked away, hidden in the bedroom with the key turned. Yes, the photographer's boyfriend was literally locked in the closet while Larry Grayson was camping it up in the front room. What a gay day.

• 25:30Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 25:30Speaker 03

  And that's nineteen eighty. And I remember the photographer well. He was a good friend. And he had a boyfriend, and because of his age, he was, you know, generation or two maybe, older than us, and came from a time when being gay, actively gay, was illegal. He just got into the habit of keeping it hidden.

• 25:50Speaker 04

  Hmm. Yeah.

• 25:52Speaker 03

  Strange. Only forty-six years ago.

• 25:54Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 25:55Speaker 03

  Sunday, the twentieth of April, nineteen eighty.

• 25:59Speaker 03

  Sunday morning, at the end of our week in Wickham. It's been a good week. The children have loved the picnics under our tree in the New Forest by Beaulieu. We've loved our dinners here. Last night, l'avocat fermant, avocado with poached egg and sauce Bernaise, served hot, followed by blancs et devoe alsacienne. Glorious desserts, wonderful pudding wines, bill to match. Six hundred and fifty-one pounds ninety-four for the week.

• 26:30Speaker 04

  Crumbs.

• 26:31Speaker 03

  But that's a whole week, and meals like that every night.

• 26:34Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 26:34Speaker 03

  Today, we're lunching with Desmond and Jennifer Brown at Stansted House, home of the Earls of Bespro, kin of Desmond's of some kind. We've been before. His aunt lives in a wing where it's dark and dusty and rather drafty, and there's newspaper covering the lino on the kitchen floor. These aristos all live like this. Their cuffs are always frayed. At Number One and Number Two, Camden Hill Gardens, where the completely middle-class brandlets live, we will be returning tonight to find the new playroom completed. The new hall carpet arrives on Thursday. As I write, I'm sitting on a hotel bed with a coffee and the papers.

• 27:16Speaker 03

  News of the week: The Union flag has been lowered in Africa for the last time. Our colonial age is past. Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe, and the new Prime Minister, Robert Mugabe, is looking for reconciliation between black and white. If yesterday you hated me, today you cannot avoid the love that binds you to me and me to you. If the photographs are anything to go by, the outgoing Prime Minister, Ian Smith, has his doubts about this.

• 27:48Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 27:49Speaker 03

  In Zaire, nine worshippers have been trampled to death trying to catch a glimpse of the Pope. In London W1, I've been on Start the Week, interviewing Gerald Campion, the actor who played Billy Bunter. He still looks and sounds exactly like Bunter. Michael Palin was also on the programme. He's doing a kind of Greyfriars spoof called Ripping Yarns. We all agreed that anyone who could create Bunter and translate the complete works of Gilbert and Sullivan into Latin has to be classed a genius of some sort. But we couldn't quite put our collective finger on what it is about the world of Greyfriars that remains so compelling.

• 28:33Speaker 03

  I got home from all this, and Michelle said, "Can we move on from your childhood, please?" That's amusing, isn't it? Because, funny enough, I mentioned Billy Bunter to you earlier today, didn't I? So here I am, forty-six years later, still talking about Billy Bunter, who was a schoolboy. You know that.

• 28:49Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 28:49Speaker 03

  Know what he sounded like?

• 28:50Speaker 04

  No.

• 28:51Speaker 03

  Yarro! Oh, crikey! I say, you chaps! Hmm. I love Bunter. Later. The Iranian Embassy siege is over. The SAS have stormed the building in spectacular style. Nineteen hostages rescued in an operation that lasted eleven minutes. We drove past. It's only five minutes from here. The front of the building is blackened. There are cordons, armoured cars, police everywhere. As we drove by, Michelle mused, "The SAS. I think that's what we call real men." Now, Giles, do tell me some more about Billy Bunter.

• 29:31Speaker 03

  She clearly had the measure of me, didn't she, in those days? Wednesday, the fourteenth of May, nineteen eighty. My back has gone, but I'm struggling on. Michelle says, "Isn't this what I came in?" She's right. I think the last time I had it this bad was nineteen sixty-eight. When I do too much, the back goes. That's it. The trouble is, there's so much to be done. I'm laughing at this, Harriet, in twenty-twenty-six, because clearly you say you know me well, and you clearly do, because nothing seems to have changed.

• 30:06Speaker 04

  No, but people don't change, do they?

• 30:08Speaker 03

  I mean, I had a bad back this summer just before our show opened. I mean, it's ridiculous, because I was doing too much, getting anxious about it. Oh, I'm ridiculous. I'm still talking about Billy Bunter. Still can't get my childhood. Here I am, reading my diaries from forty-six years ago to you. Oh, well, never mind. On we go.

• 30:24Speaker 04

  It's good, Giles.

• 30:25Speaker 03

  Thank you. Lunch with Gail Reebok. Worthwhile. We have ten projects with her and more in the pipeline. And then tea with Julian Slade. The creator of Salladays lives in the basement of a beautiful house in Priory Walk. His mother lives upstairs. What is it about these middle-aged homosexuals and their mothers? Kenneth has his mother, Louise, living in the flat next door. He finds her increasingly tiresome, but he can't keep away from her. He goes to have supper with her every evening. He hates watching the TV programmes she wants to watch, but he can't keep away. Julian is very sweet and very sentimental. My beauty and charm overwhelmed him. He cried several times during our time together.

• 31:10Speaker 03

  But he loves the idea of the A.A. Milne musical, and we're going to give it a go. This is not a play about Winnie the Pooh. This is a play about Alan Milne, writer, husband, father, a man all his life trapped by his own creation.

• 31:25Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 31:26Speaker 03

  Today is the TUC's Day of Action. It has not taken the nation by storm. Mrs. Thatcher is our captain now. The world has moved on, and Michelle and I, off to the pom d'amour for a light supper.

• 31:42Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 31:43Speaker 03

  Wednesday, the twenty-eighth of May, nineteen eighty. Lunch with Anna Ford at Odins. Absurd. I wanted to get there first so that I would already be seated and she wouldn't see me bent double because of my bad back. Unfortunately, we arrived at the same time. I hoped to be taken for an English Robert Redford. In the event, I escorted her to our table, looking like a disabled Quasimodo. And she is so beautiful, so beautiful. I did not seduce her, nor even, I think, amuse her very much. She is a cool customer and quite conscious of her own worth.

• 32:26Speaker 03

  We are going to Wickham for half-term. I've just phoned the agents for the Playhouse Theatre. I'm going to see it next week for the second time. I want to buy it and develop it, using it as a conference centre by day and as the home of the London Revitry Company by night. We shall see.

• 32:52Speaker 00

  I've got big news. I switched to Verizon and got the new iPhone 18 Pro. Shh. I can keep my old phone and I also get the latest iPhone every year. Shh. Anything else? Verizon let me choose Apple Watch Series 12 or iPad on them.

• 33:05Speaker 01

  Everybody, listen up.

• 33:07Speaker 00

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• 33:23Speaker 06

  Welcome to 215 Maple Drive. We just put this property on the market.

• 33:29Speaker 01

  Love the crown molding.

• 33:31Speaker 06

  Oh, wait until you see the walk-in closets and the bathroom tile.

• 33:34Speaker 01

  Does it have Verizon FiOS? You know, 100% fiber internet?

• 33:38Speaker 06

  No FiOS, but it looks like it's got cable. Let's check out the kitchen.

• 33:42Speaker 01

  No FiOS? Yeah, no, thank you.

• 33:45Speaker 06

  Don't you want to see the rest? Okay. Bye-bye.

• 33:48Speaker 07

  Get Verizon FiOS, because when you're moving, it's 100% or nothing.

• 33:52Speaker 02

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• 34:28Speaker 03

  Saturday, 28th, June 1980. Sweeney Todd at Drury Lane. Well, the audience loved it. The house was packed and they roared. Suddenly, the refrain is haunting. Attend the tale of Sweeney Todd, the demon baba of Fleet Street. But all the bloody gronguignol and strangulated shout-singing did not do it for us. Simon Cadell and Stephanie Turner enjoyed it more, but not much. We all loved meeting up with Biggins and Peter Polycarpoo at Joe Allen's afterwards. Now that was fun. Lots of important things to report, but I'm too squiffy now. It's 1:00 in the morning. Michelle's in the bathroom, and tomorrow,

• 35:11Speaker 03

  I'm working on our plan to develop Peter Rabbit. Take him beyond the Beatrix Potter books while remaining true to the Beatrix Potter values. Michelle mocks my obsession with things childish, but it's making us the loot. Also, loan arrangement with County Bank progressing. Unemployment in the UK now the highest since the war. But here on Camden Hill, we are busy and thankful for it. Good night.

• 35:43Speaker 04

  That's a good place to finish, I think, Giles.

• 35:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, maybe it is, because the next episode begins with one of your heroes.

• 35:49Speaker 04

  Mmm.

• 35:50Speaker 03

  3rd of July, this morning, Leonard Rosita.

• 35:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:53Speaker 03

  In cracking form.

• 35:54Speaker 04

  Oh, so that's good. You're being successful, as usual.

• 35:58Speaker 03

  Mmm. Yes and no. I'm being ambitious and full of energy, and I'm needing money. And I've had the idea, it's interesting, that in one of the episodes that we have on a Sunday for the Rosebud family, we've been talking about games. And you talked about loving a Peter Rabbit game, a Beatrix Potter game, when you were a little girl.

• 36:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:23Speaker 03

  And it could have been at the time that you were playing this, that the game began, or maybe it was earlier, I don't know, because they were very loath, the Beatrix Potter Estate, to let people do things. And we had to jump through all sorts of hoops to be allowed to do what we did. So we took, this hadn't been done before. Previously, these books had just existed as the little Beatrix Potter books.

• 36:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:46Speaker 03

  We took them and turned them into dowries and calendars and coloring books.

• 36:50Speaker 04

  Oh, you did that.

• 36:50Speaker 03

  Yeah. So I pioneered all of that.

• 36:52Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 36:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:54Speaker 04

  Gosh, Giles, that's good. Did they do well?

• 36:57Speaker 03

  They did do well.

• 36:58Speaker 04

  Mmm.

• 36:58Speaker 03

  Yeah. But we needed things to do well, because we'd pushed the boat out and bought this second house next door, which was a buy too many. And...

• 37:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, because on the way out of Grosvenor House, when we walked past the hairdresser salon.

• 37:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:12Speaker 04

  There are some little cabinets on the wall, and they've at the moment got Beatrix Potter's stationery.

• 37:17Speaker 03

  Oh, yes.

• 37:18Speaker 04

  And it looks so pretty. And I was thinking, I'd love to get a set of that.

• 37:22Speaker 03

  And all that began in that era.

• 37:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:25Speaker 03

  In this era we're talking about now, into the 70s, early 1980s.

• 37:28Speaker 04

  Mmm.

• 37:29Speaker 03

  So it was a fun time. But I tell you, you know how I blub all too easily?

• 37:36Speaker 04

  Mmm.

• 37:37Speaker 03

  The bit there that I was going to blub at was just Michelle and me going to the Pom d'Amour, which was a lovely restaurant in Holland Park. Just supper, the two of us.

• 37:49Speaker 04

  Mmm, lovely.

• 37:50Speaker 03

  A nice supper.

• 37:51Speaker 04

  Mmm.

• 37:51Speaker 03

  And we'd drunk wine in those days, and we'd have had, you know, a lovely start. And probably, we only ever had two courses.

• 37:58Speaker 04

  Mmm.

• 37:59Speaker 03

  Probably, except if we were pushing the boat out. Just a lovely supper.

• 38:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, that is a nice thing to do, isn't it?

• 38:05Speaker 03

  Those are the best times.

• 38:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:08Speaker 03

  What for you are the best times?

• 38:11Speaker 04

  Oh, that's a big question.

• 38:12Speaker 03

  Well, then maybe we'll leave it for another day.

• 38:13Speaker 04

  Giles, you sometimes drop in a real sort of fundamental question. They give me the collie bubbles, those questions.

• 38:21Speaker 03

  I know they do.

• 38:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:22Speaker 03

  We won't pursue it today.

• 38:23Speaker 04

  I don't know about, I mean, I could probably answer that, but I don't think I can answer it at the drop of a hat.

• 38:30Speaker 03

  The drop of a hat was one of the best times for me. It was a musical done by Flanders Swan in the 1950s.

• 38:35Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 38:35Speaker 03

  Michael Flanders, Donald Swan, the drop of a hat, and then the drop of another hat.

• 38:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, they were brilliant.

• 38:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:42Speaker 03

  Good.

• 38:42Speaker 04

  But no, the best times, I mean, you know, I like to be on a dance floor.

• 38:48Speaker 03

  Ah, exactly.

• 38:49Speaker 04

  So the best times for me. But also, it's just lovely sometimes being with your family at the supper table, isn't it?

• 38:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:57Speaker 04

  Tell you what we did on Friday or Saturday night, can't remember which now, maybe Saturday. We had raclette.

• 39:05Speaker 03

  Oh, I love a raclette.

• 39:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:07Speaker 03

  I used to have those in Switzerland.

• 39:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:09Speaker 03

  It's where you have cheese, it's melted, and with a, you sort of scrape at it.

• 39:13Speaker 04

  So we've got these things at home, where you put three tea lights.

• 39:16Speaker 03

  Yes, I know, exactly.

• 39:17Speaker 04

  Underneath this little tiny frying pan, which is really cool, because you're cooking at the table, which is fun. My dad doesn't approve of that, but I do. And then you put the raclette in. We've got this Swiss cheese shop in Crouch End, so you can buy raclette. And then you melt it, and then you have crudités, bread, potatoes. And it was so fun. And Belle's boyfriend was there, and we had a really fun time doing that. And even that can be, that's a best time.

• 39:44Speaker 03

  But that's exactly what I mean. And I want people listening to think in their heads, what for them is that kind of best time?

• 39:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:51Speaker 03

  You will find, featured somewhere in the dowries, and I think it is in the 1980s, we bought our first raclette set.

• 39:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:58Speaker 03

  And had those sorts of evenings. There was also something where there was sort of hot oil, and you dipped bits of cheese or bits of lamb cut into squares.

• 40:08Speaker 04

  If that gets on your clothes, hot oil, it ruins, you've got to wear a napkin.

• 40:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:16Speaker 04

  Or plastic sheeting.

• 40:17Speaker 03

  I've got to the age.

• 40:18Speaker 04

  It's always good to have that on hand.

• 40:19Speaker 03

  When I've got to wear plastic sheeting anyway.

• 40:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:22Speaker 03

  I mean, a bib.

• 40:23Speaker 04

  Or a bib. Can I just finish this episode with a disgusting image for everyone, which is that my friend, who shall remain named, she might be listening, her son had, you know those plastic bibs which have the...

• 40:39Speaker 03

  Curved bottom.

• 40:39Speaker 04

  Curved bottom, which you give to...

• 40:41Speaker 03

  Catch things.

• 40:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, which you give to toddlers, because otherwise the food goes down the bib and then ends up all over their trousers. So quite a good invention. Her son wore one of these, very sensible. But at the end of the meal, when all of the food had collected in this trough, the first course and the pudding, so, you know, all the puree, whatever terrible things you feed a toddler, she would then get her spoon and scoop the food from that trough, all mixed up, so it could be lamb casserole and apple puree and custard,

• 41:19Speaker 04

  and feed it to her son, who ate it. And I would watch on horrified by that. And I'd say to her, "Oh, oh." Anyway, it still gives me the creeps now.

• 41:34Speaker 03

  But curiously, I think she did the right thing.

• 41:37Speaker 04

  I know.

• 41:37Speaker 03

  She didn't waste it.

• 41:38Speaker 04

  She probably did.

• 41:39Speaker 03

  And it all ends up in the same tummy anyway, doesn't it?

• 41:41Speaker 04

  Of course. But I am squeamish, and I found that really hard to watch.

• 41:45Speaker 03

  Well, if you have views on any of that, or if you want to share with us those moments, those lovely special moments, do drop us a line, because we love to have your emails of your early memories. And our address, as ever, is simply [email protected].

• 42:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:06Speaker 03

  And if anybody wants to join us on a Sunday afternoon, we have the Rosebud family, where Harriet and I get together for Sunday afternoon conversation. So do join us there. If you want to do that, you simply join the club by going to patreon.com/rosebud. That's P-A-T-R-E-O-N dot com forward slash rosebud. I'll be back on Friday with a very, very special guest. Really. She looks good. You'll want to watch this one on YouTube.

• 42:39Speaker 04

  Oh, yes.

• 42:40Speaker 03

  Well, I'm saying that, if it is who I think it is, she looks sensational. So watch us on YouTube, but listen to us wherever you listen to us. Enjoy being with us, whether you're in the bath, on a walk, sitting in bed, running on the treadmill, whatever you're doing, it's your Rosebud time. And maybe send us a line saying, actually, for me, those good times are simply listening to Rosebud.

• 43:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:05Speaker 03

  For us, the good times are being with you. I'm Gyles Brandreth. Harriet Jane is the producer. We just think you're very special.

• 43:13Speaker 04

  Mmm. If you are in the bath, don't forget to turn off the taps.

• 43:18Speaker 03

  Please. Any Buddhist listening.

• 43:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:20Speaker 03

  We respect you, we admire you.

• 43:22Speaker 04

  We do.

• 43:23Speaker 03

  But please, keep the running water under control.

• 43:27Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 43:28Speaker 03

  Um, cue the music.

• 44:18Speaker 03

  That was another episode of Rosebud, produced by Harriet Jane for Plain Jane Media, presented by me, Gyles Brandreth, and recorded at Grosvenor House in Mayfair, London.

• 44:32Speaker 02

  Hi, it's Danny Pellegrino from Everything Iconic. 12 celebrities, one Don, and cold hard cash. From the producers of The Traitors comes The Mob, a new Hulu original series. The iconic Parker Posey hosts this unique reality competition show where 12 celebrity contestants shake down in an Italian villa to win a share of up to $250,000. Watch the new Hulu original series, The Mob, premiering October 26 on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers. Terms apply.

• 45:05Speaker 00

  I've got big news. I switched to Verizon and got the new iPhone 18 Pro. Shh. I can keep my old phone and I also get the latest iPhone every year. Shh. Anything else? Verizon let me choose Apple Watch Series 12 or iPad on them.

• 45:18Speaker 01

  Everybody, listen up.

• 45:20Speaker 00

  Shh. Switch to Verizon and get the new iPhone 18 Pro now. No trade-in needed. And the latest iPhone every year with Simplicity Plan. Plus, choose Apple Watch Series 12 or iPad on us. Simplicity Plan with Simplicity Pro required. Plan and device payment purchase are separate agreements with separate terms. Service plan for Watch or iPad required. Additional terms apply for all offers.

• 45:36Speaker 06

  Welcome to 215 Maple Drive. We just put this property on the market.

• 45:42Speaker 01

  Love the crown molding.

• 45:44Speaker 06

  Oh, wait until you see the walk-in closets and the bathroom tile.

• 45:47Speaker 01

  Does it have Verizon FiOS? You know, 100% fiber internet?

• 45:51Speaker 06

  No FiOS, but it looks like it's got cable. Let's check out the kitchen.

• 45:55Speaker 01

  No FiOS? Yeah, no, thank you.

• 45:58Speaker 06

  Don't you want to see the rest? Okay. Bye-bye.

• 46:01Speaker 07

  Get Verizon FiOS, because when you're moving, it's 100% or nothing.