Pod Insights Ride with Benito Skinner and Mary Beth Barone YOLO + Post 9/11 Media About this episode Parking lot DRAMA, Wayne Gretzky, Michelle Obama. What do all of these things have in common? They are all mentioned in this week's episode of RIDE! We're coast to coast this week and Benny is riding for YOLO while Mary Beth rides for post 9/11 media. Be safe out there!
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0:00 Speaker 00 The following podcast is a Dear Media production. The following podcast is a Dear Media production.
0:19 Speaker 01 Hey, can you come pick me up? Yeah, what's wrong? Nothing. Are you sure? Yeah, no, I just need a ride. Ride, ride. Oh, my God. So what? I just wanna have fun. Start your engines. Hi, Kay.
0:30 Benito Skinner? I'm Benito Skinner.
0:31 Mary Beth Barone? I'm Mary Beth Brown.
0:33 Benito Skinner? And this?
0:33 Mary Beth Barone? Is?
0:34 Benito Skinner? Ride.
0:39 Mary Beth Barone? Here we are, episode two of 2025.
0:43 Benito Skinner? Okay, January, there's two more months left in January, but I know we can do it.
0:48 Mary Beth Barone? And then we're gonna get there.
0:50 Benito Skinner? We're gonna get there. February 1st is when all resolutions start and all ins and outs. This is a total wash. I think we have to completely wash this one.
0:58 Mary Beth Barone? I agree.
0:58 Benito Skinner? That's kinda my thing, Kay.
1:00 Mary Beth Barone? No, I'm totally on board with that. I think there's 11 months this year. January 2025 is more of like a purgatory transition phase.
1:08 Benito Skinner? Yeah.
1:09 Mary Beth Barone? And we need to just get to the other side and then we can really start.
1:14 Benito Skinner? Hell, we're closer than we've ever been.
1:15 Mary Beth Barone? Two follow-ups from last week. I just wanted to say that fragrance ads are sex education in the United States.
1:21 Benito Skinner? Oh, my God. Dotting Cabana, lie blue.
1:25 Mary Beth Barone? Also, just like Calvin Klein.
1:27 Benito Skinner? Diamonds are dead.
1:29 Mary Beth Barone? Dior.
1:30 Benito Skinner? I mean, Dior is ride.
1:32 Mary Beth Barone? Totally.
1:33 Benito Skinner? I said my two favorite ad campaigns, Charlize Theron in Dior, and Danny DeVito in Jersey Mike's, pre-BlackRock.
1:41 Mary Beth Barone? Pre-Blackstone even.
1:43 Benito Skinner? Blackstone. God, I never know. Fuck.
1:46 Mary Beth Barone? It was crazy that one of them was established and then the other one named themselves that. Like, that felt like they wanted people to be confused.
1:53 Benito Skinner? And everyone who went to Georgetown went to work there.
1:57 Mary Beth Barone? Yeah.
1:58 Benito Skinner? We were the feeder school.
2:00 Mary Beth Barone? The other thing I wanted to update from last week is that I did have to nag my mom for two years to get a Juicy tracksuit. It wasn't like I was just like given one. I had to actually put in the work. It became a full-time job. It became an obsession. And then, then she finally just gave in, I think, to like, so we could have peace in the house.
2:17 Benito Skinner? You know what that hearkens back to?
2:19 Mary Beth Barone? What?
2:20 Benito Skinner? The sacred text of Bella Hadid going through her Vogue life and looks. I love when they do life and looks and the person's like 22. That's my favorite thing ever.
2:28 Mary Beth Barone? And they've been famous for four years.
2:30 Benito Skinner? It's like, she said like, "My mom wouldn't let me get Louboutins until I was 18. That's when I got my first Louboutins." And it's like, period. I love that.
2:41 Mary Beth Barone? It's not like having a boyfriend.
2:43 Benito Skinner? There's a new hero of the pod who I'm just, oh my God, I need to get her handle. And yes, she will be posted on Ride the Pod. If you're not following, you're only getting half the story. But she does a MAGA makeup tutorial. It's so funny. And then she has this thing where someone's like, "You're being mean." And she goes, "Yes?"
2:59 Mary Beth Barone? Yes.
3:00 Benito Skinner? She goes, "Liberals haven't been mean for so long." Like, clearly the nice thing isn't working.
3:05 Mary Beth Barone? It's all we have is now to be mean and call people ugly.
3:07 Benito Skinner? Yes, it's time. And you were ahead of that trend.
3:10 Mary Beth Barone? Well, I started my list of ugly losers last year, which I do keep updating and it's a growing list. But I think it's important that like, we, we need to use some of their strategies. I'm not saying like, gerrymandering is good, but if they're gonna do it, then we have to do it too. Otherwise, we just will lose every election for the rest of time.
3:26 Benito Skinner? And also, can't we have a little fun? Can't we be a little Regina George? A little bad? Come on. Literally, it's like, the other thing didn't work, so they go low, we go lower. I love you, Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama said that.
3:39 Mary Beth Barone? Skipping the inauguration. Did you know that? She RSVP'd no to the inauguration. She said, "I'm not going." And she did not give a reason.
3:47 Benito Skinner? There are easier ways. Hey, listen to Ride, Michelle. Oh my God, becoming. I'm just gonna say becoming.
3:54 Mary Beth Barone? Becoming.
3:55 Benito Skinner? Oh my God.
3:57 Mary Beth Barone? Something we have in our pod opening notes app thing is the Wayne Gretzky quote. How hard did Wayne Gretzky go when he said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take? That transcends sports. It transcends gender. It's just like, it is the culture. Do you get that?
4:14 Benito Skinner? It's so crazy because I do think about it a lot, but here's my thing. When did he first say it? And I don't know why, but I just, he said it for the first time in the movie Miracle. He's not in it. I don't think, I don't think it has anything to do with him, but you get that.
4:29 Mary Beth Barone? I get that. I get that. That's when it entered the, it entered the zeitgeist. I'm just thankful. I feel like you wouldn't think a sports quote could really do that, but.
4:38 Benito Skinner? No, there's a couple like that. There's a Muhammad Ali one. It's, you know, I'm blanking on it now, but I know it'll.
4:44 Mary Beth Barone? But it'll come to you.
4:45 Benito Skinner? Kick my ass later in the day. I think it's time to talk about, I'm filming you.
4:49 Mary Beth Barone? Oh, please get it. Let's, I mean, because I actually, I actually haven't heard this whole story yet and I'm excited.
4:54 Benito Skinner? Oh my God. Okay. So let me set the scene. Terry and I are trying to eat at this lovely restaurant here and I'm, I'm not gatekeeping anything in LA. Support LA, like truly bring your productions here, everything I want and all LA needs it. Let's rebuild. This place sap. It's fabulous Thai cuisine. It's just absolutely delicious. Like, oh my God, I would go every day if I could. So we're just like taking laps around the neighborhood. We cannot find a spot. And then finally we find one, but this woman is just like standing in it. And so we were like, oh, um, sorry, we're going to park here. And she was like, I'm saving for my friend.
5:28 Mary Beth Barone? And it was Nina Drama.
5:30 Benito Skinner? I'm not kidding. She had Nina Drama's exact voice, which also to me, I'm like, okay, gagged. Like I love her.
5:36 Mary Beth Barone? It's like, we're allies here. Don't be mean to me.
5:38 Benito Skinner? And I was like, yeah, that's not like really a thing. Like I, and I said it in a nice way. I was like, oh, sorry. Like. We are going to park here. It's an available space and like, there's nowhere else to park and like. The standing in the street, saving a spot thing, not to be a Larry David, curvy enthusiast, but I am kind of like. That's not really a thing. Yeah.
6:02 Benito Skinner? I just kind of don't think that's a thing unless it's like, I don't know, in high school, I feel like that's when it felt like it was okay.
6:09 Mary Beth Barone? Right around the corner, like they should be here by now, that sort of thing.
6:11 Benito Skinner? Totally. And I'm kind of like, well, I don't see her and you're just waiting in this. I'm like, what? All I said was like, okay, like, I think we're still going to park here. Like this seems insane. She immediately goes, I'm filming you. I was like, okay, well, hi to everyone who is watching me.
6:29 Mary Beth Barone? Hello to all my fans.
6:31 Benito Skinner? And I said, oh, joke's on you, sis. I love a camera. So I was like, hey, you guys, she's standing in an open parking spot in LA on a street she doesn't own. And we want to park here and a couple of gay guys just are trying to go to fucking dinner.
6:45 Mary Beth Barone? We just want to get some dinner, please.
6:48 Benito Skinner? Can you please just let us park here? And then she stopped because I think she thought instead I would like be insane. I'm like, just to be clear, that's for if someone's being like heinously racist or like committing a crime.
7:01 Mary Beth Barone? Or you see a cop doing stop and frisk or something.
7:04 Benito Skinner? In fact, you're the one breaking the law. Like you are standing in an open parking space on this.
7:11 Mary Beth Barone? To me, I'm like, go ahead and post it and see, see what the internet decides.
7:15 Benito Skinner? Yeah, I'm like, you know, like, hard a Dixie. If the friend was right behind us, I would have been like, okay, totally. Nowhere to be seen during this entire interaction. So I guess I leave it up to the baronies, like, what should we have done? But Terry was there and he's written really bold in me and he's like, stop being a people pleaser and like, live your life. The spot was there and I wanted to go to dinner with my guy. I was tired, but I was really polite.
7:36 Mary Beth Barone? So what happened?
7:37 Benito Skinner? Oh, and after two seconds, then she like completely quit. And that's also my thing. If she would have been like, I'm going to keep filming you and I'm saving this for my friend. I would have been like, okay, that's true grit.
7:47 Mary Beth Barone? Well, that's fighta and it's true grit.
7:49 Benito Skinner? It was fighta. I would have been like, absolutely. And I, I actually have a podcast I think you'd love.
7:53 Mary Beth Barone? Yeah.
7:53 Benito Skinner? But she was a quitter, immediately like stopped filming after. I was like, hey, everyone watching, this is an open space and we want to park here.
8:01 Mary Beth Barone? Funny drama seven here, queer spokes, funny drama. I guess the thing is like, when it really is, comes down to it, it's like, I have a car and you don't. So like, this is where cars go. It's not where people go.
8:11 Benito Skinner? Well, that's one also, we're not 10. And I think that's cool too. It's like, sometimes when people are like, oh, I get the front seat. It's like, well, you don't really need the front seat.
8:19 Mary Beth Barone? I think being perceived is really hard right now and we're being perceived more than ever. And so I just like to limit lately, what my vibe is, is just like limiting interactions with people in general. Like, I need to focus on pinky. I need to focus on work. Like, I need to be in my apartment and it's making me withdraw a little bit, but I think that's just what I need right now. I just don't want to be perceived like by like people at IRL.
8:42 Benito Skinner? Totally, and I, I think I know when like safety is a part of it too. You know what I mean? Like I, I try to be thoughtful about the people I am talking to. And I really try to make eye contact with no one throughout the day. Go one whole day without making eye contact. I know you can do it. It's so fun.
8:58 Mary Beth Barone? I can definitely do it.
8:59 Benito Skinner? So many people just like wanna chirp and I'm like, it's just, I'm not the person to do it too. I got my AirPods in, I'm listening to the like part right in Juno. When Sabrina goes, "I'm so fucking horny." That's, I'm always listening to that. Leave me alone.
9:16 Mary Beth Barone? Have I told the story of being sexually harassed at pre 6 a.m. on a flight?
9:20 Benito Skinner? No.
9:21 Mary Beth Barone? So I'll, I'll be quick and then we'll get into what we ride for.
9:24 Benito Skinner? But it can happen at any time, any place for a woman is what I'm learning every day.
9:27 Mary Beth Barone? It can happen in the sky. So I was on a flight and I was doing stuff on my laptop and it was, it was before 6:00 in the morning. And I have a sticker on my laptop that says, "I only sleep with socialists." Because I used to sell those stickers and I just think it's like a fun thing to say and do. And a fun lifestyle. And so this guy next to me kept trying to like talk to me. And then he was like, "Oh, do you have your headphones in so people won't talk to you?" And I was like, "Kinda, but it's clearly not working right now." So then he's like, "Can I ask you about your stickers?" And I was like, "Oh, keep in mind, by the way, I'm in the window, he's in the middle." And then there's someone else, there's another man on the other side of him. So he's like, "So is that true? Like you only sleep with socialists?" And I was like, "It's open to interpretation." And then I just put my headphones back in. The entire, he kept trying to talk to me the entire flight.
10:11 Mary Beth Barone? I watched Vogue Beauty Secrets for five hours. And he kept, he tapped me, he's like, "That doesn't, that's not very socialist." I was like, "Vogue Beauty Secrets isn't socialist? What are you saying here?" And he kept looking at my screen and trying to talk to me. And then he got up to go to the bathroom. So I told the guy on the aisle, like this guy's like creeping me out. And I can't tell the flight attendant, cause like, then I just feel like it'll become like a huge thing. Like I felt so like in danger, cause I was like pushed up against the wall, basically. So like just, clearly I have headphones in, I don't wanna be talked to right now. Like, "Don't ask me about stickers on my computer, it's fucking weird."
10:43 Benito Skinner? Where's the air marshal? Don't those exist?
10:45 Mary Beth Barone? Speaking of air marshal.
10:46 Benito Skinner? The lore around air marshals, like someone has to tell me, are they really on every flight? Like I am, I am- I'm constantly like putting my little glasses down, looking at everyone on the flight, thinking, who the hell is the air marshal on here? Are they on every flight? Or did I make that up?
11:01 Mary Beth Barone? There was a time where it was kind of obvious because they would be standing in the galley, like reading the newspaper and they just looked like air marshals. But that's actually a really great segue into what we're talking about today.
11:09 Benito Skinner? Maybe, maybe everyone thinks I'm an air marshal.
11:12 Mary Beth Barone? You're the air marshal.
11:14 Benito Skinner? It's me.
11:14 Mary Beth Barone? If you can't spot the air marshal, the air marshal is you.
11:17 Benito Skinner? Wait, it's Fight Club. I go into the bathroom, I put water on my face and I look in the mirror and I go, oh my God, it's me.
11:22 Mary Beth Barone? You're Tyler Durden.
11:23 Benito Skinner? And I noticed that I have a, I assume they don't carry a gun, just nunchucks.
11:27 Mary Beth Barone? You have a holster. They have a gun and you just can't see it.
11:30 Benito Skinner? Oh, okay. I'll keep my eyes out. Let's get into it.
11:33 Mary Beth Barone? So this week I'm going to be writing for something I've teased all season, which is post nine 11 media.
11:39 Benito Skinner? And I will be writing for YOLO.
11:41 Mary Beth Barone? YOLO.
11:41 Benito Skinner? Which is also a part of post nine 11 media.
11:46 Mary Beth Barone? Media.
11:46 Benito Skinner? Let's get into it.
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12:55 Mary Beth Barone? Do you know my big pitch for this year?
12:56 Benito Skinner? What?
12:57 Mary Beth Barone? We write out an episode, we script it and it's a sleep story and it's only available in the Calm app. Wouldn't that be fun? And we're like whispering and using like really like calming voices.
13:05 Benito Skinner? Hey Calm, you know how to reach us.
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13:49 Benito Skinner? So if people are like, yeah, who believes in you from the start? I'm like, Carrie, like Mary Beth, Squarespace, like the team over at Squarespace.
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15:03 Mary Beth Barone? At least just stay for one frickin' drink.
15:07 Mary Beth Barone? Wait, where are we going?
15:08 Benito Skinner? Who cares? Ride!
15:10 Mary Beth Barone? So, as people know, being 10 years old when 9/11 happened, I was very affected by that. And at some point, I will post the poem that I wrote about 9/11 that was published in Anthology of Young American Poets.
15:22 Benito Skinner? And by sometime, you mean when this comes out? I mean, they have to read your works.
15:26 Mary Beth Barone? Okay, then I will post it. And I guess we're in a state of mourning right now, so it's like, it's appropriate. Because I do feel like Trump's inauguration is America's 9/11, if that makes sense.
15:36 Benito Skinner? Yeah, I would say a combo of the fires and Trump's inauguration.
15:39 Mary Beth Barone? It's Dante's Inferno.
15:40 Benito Skinner? I think it's, can I just say, I think it's a bad time for those aperitivo companies that are like, non-alcoholic. I think people are gonna be drinking. Let's just say that. I'm not telling anyone to stop being sober. All those like, little cutesy drinks, I think your time is up. I think it's time for Everclear to enter the chat.
15:56 Mary Beth Barone? Yeah, we're gonna be smearing off icing people. It's gonna be a thing.
16:00 Benito Skinner? Oh, I would love to get iced, right outside the door of What the Fuck Media.
16:03 Mary Beth Barone? So, 9/11 obviously had a huge impact, and Dear Media clipped that. It had a cultural impact, obviously, in like, TSA, and how we board planes, and what we are and aren't allowed to take onboard. And then, I think patriotism like, increased, or whatever. But, it also affected media. And post-9/11 media, it's still happening, which I think is really beautiful. There is still post-9/11 media being made.
16:26 Benito Skinner? I think we're almost, I think if the history books are being written, and I'm reading it 50 years from now, we're on the end of it, though.
16:33 Mary Beth Barone? We're on the end of it, so this has been a whole-
16:35 Benito Skinner? Because, oh, I have so many, I'm so excited you're finally talking about this. I mean, what a perfect day to do it. I'm filming you.
16:40 Mary Beth Barone? I'm filming you. So, it doesn't necessarily mean that it directly correlates to 9/11. Like, I would say United 93 and Remember Me, to me, would not fall in post-9/11 media, because that's just like, 9/11 media.
16:52 Benito Skinner? Don't you fucking dare bring up Remember Me. When I was in the movie theater-
16:56 Mary Beth Barone? Never seen it.
16:57 Benito Skinner? And the twist happens, I'm, I, I, I almost walked out. I went, no, it's a beautiful story of like, every person that we lost, like, had a full life. I, I get what they were trying to do, I just had no idea, because I assume it's a book, because it has a very book ending, let me tell you. It's giving book, it's giving Walk Two Moons.
17:16 Mary Beth Barone? There's no way of knowing, unfortunately.
17:18 Benito Skinner? It was, oh my god, I was so pissed, and you know, I love our Pats.
17:22 Mary Beth Barone? Well, if you haven't seen Remember Me, and we're spoiling it now, it's past the statute of limitations.
17:26 Benito Skinner? Oh, also, I don't know if I'm gonna recommend it, like, it just like, kind of ruined me for a bit. So, you go the whole, can I just say what it is?
17:32 Mary Beth Barone? Yeah, of course.
17:33 Benito Skinner? You go the whole movie following a love story? And in the end, Robert Pattinson has a bad relationship with his dad, played by ex-bond Pierce Brosnan. And in the end, he goes to his dad's office, but his dad isn't there. I only saw it once because God knows it traumatized me enough. Like, I couldn't see it twice. He goes to his dad's office and it's on the like top 90 floor in the North Tower. And I, and they pan out from him looking out the window. And then they go to his little sister in the, in her classroom and her teacher is writing September 11th in cursive on the board. And you realize what's going on. And the whole movie, I was thinking, why is this taking place in 2001? Like, what's the?
18:12 Mary Beth Barone? Like, why is this randomly a period piece?
18:14 Benito Skinner? Yeah, I was like, this is so weird because it was probably like, I think it came out in like 2012, 2011 or something. And I was straight at the time and I went with like a couple of friends and this one girl that, we had crushes.
18:27 Benito Skinner? And I literally went, like, full gay gasp in the theater. I was like, ah!
18:32 Mary Beth Barone? You squealed?
18:33 Benito Skinner? They pan out from Robert Pattinson in the tower. And you realize, oh my God, I can't, I'm literally sick talking about it. I can't, Remember Me? You were fucked for that.
18:43 Mary Beth Barone? Remember Me is not post 9/11 media. I would say Hurt Locker and Zero Dark Thirty, they teeter the line. But to me, if it's like too much about 9/11, it's not post 9/11 media. So things that I would categorize as post 9/11 media. Flight Plan.
19:00 Mary Beth Barone? Red Eye. Anything that sort of plays on like flights and feeling unsafe or being terrorized on a flight would fall under post 9/11 media. I would say the movie Taken, the whole entire Taken series. Because that's like about like one man to like, to like take down the bad guy. It was very like, take down the bad guy.
19:18 Benito Skinner? Yeah.
19:18 Mary Beth Barone? And pro-America.
19:20 Benito Skinner? Casino Royale. Come on, kid.
19:22 Mary Beth Barone? And on that note, The Departed to me is post 9/11 media.
19:27 Benito Skinner? How are you really gonna just be there in Zoom on a little screen reflected back at me and not say Avengers? Like Marvel Studios, I don't know, like, I'd be so curious. I don't know if that exists if 9/11 doesn't happen.
19:40 Mary Beth Barone? Doesn't happen. I'm gonna say like, no. I think it's, it's this interesting mix.
19:44 Benito Skinner? Superheroes.
19:45 Mary Beth Barone? It's playing on people's fears and then it's like, it's wish fulfillment. Because I think like The Departed specifically, also just like Americana, American culture, American sniper.
19:56 Benito Skinner? Well, that's a poem. That was a haiku.
19:59 Mary Beth Barone? Do you get that?
20:00 Benito Skinner? Yeah, you're still writing poetry about this. It's beautiful.
20:03 Mary Beth Barone? So then I rewatched Love Actually this year and I was like, before I sat down to watch it, I was like, this is post nine 11 media. Opening monologue, Hugh Grant mentions nine 11.
20:13 Benito Skinner? Yeah.
20:13 Mary Beth Barone? The airport. So that has to be post nine 11 media. And then weirdly, I'm gonna say a movie like Juno.
20:20 Benito Skinner? Oh, my God. Totally.
20:22 Mary Beth Barone? So it's interesting you brought up Juno.
20:23 Benito Skinner? Do you see how this is? We know how this pod will end before it even began. Juno, absolutely. Did I ever tell you the time when Terry came home and I had a red light therapy mask on and was watching Zero Dark Thirty? And he didn't say a word to me and just went to bed.
20:38 Mary Beth Barone? He walked in, he's like, there's nothing for me here.
20:41 Benito Skinner? You know who I FaceTimed that night? You.
20:44 Mary Beth Barone? Of course.
20:44 Benito Skinner? When Jessica Chastain is on the plane at the end of that movie and she's given her whole life to find this man and kill this man. And she like, doesn't know what to do next. You just feel it. I'm like, that's what an Oscar worthy performance is.
20:57 Mary Beth Barone? That's what's gonna happen when overcompensating comes out. To you.
21:03 Mary Beth Barone? I waited my whole life to tell this story.
21:05 Benito Skinner? Am I allowed to say? I mean, I think I am that, did I already say this? That Terry watched all of it and you know that he just is like, he can't stop. We're so proud of our girl. I literally had this moment. I, I have to tell the baronies. I was watching it and like, you just, oh my God. It's like, it was so weird because this, there came a moment where I literally was just like, you were the character and I didn't even think about you at all, which is insane because I think of you all day. And it just, I was like, oh my God, she did it. She's like such an actress. And it just like, oh my God, this scene was so sad. I was just like bawling. Yeah, and I was just like, wow, that's my girl. So I do think like, let's just say, post nine 11 media, we've got something to put a period at the end of it and it's gonna give you a smile.
21:50 Benito Skinner? It's love, it's earnest, it's sexy, it's comedy. We've got something so Ben Worthy coming.
21:55 Mary Beth Barone? Overcompensating is the last piece of post nine 11 media. And you know what? You know what's happening and starting and maybe is already a little bit underway? But the, it's like generations, like they're overlapping a little bit, post COVID media.
22:08 Benito Skinner? Yes.
22:09 Mary Beth Barone? And that's a whole separate thing.
22:11 Benito Skinner? Well, I, I think if I ever ran a writer's retreat, I don't know if we would ever do that, but I think we should at some point.
22:17 Mary Beth Barone? Post nine 11 media, I would say to summarize it, it's media that either makes you completely forget about nine 11, or it makes you think about it incessantly. It's about the good guy winning and beating the bad guy.
22:30 Benito Skinner? Mamma Mia. Sorry, that just came out of me.
22:33 Mary Beth Barone? Hundred percent.
22:34 Benito Skinner? Here, here I go again.
22:35 Mary Beth Barone? Here I go again.
22:37 Benito Skinner? Yeah.
22:38 Mary Beth Barone? And I think playing on fears and playing on stereotypes, I don't ride for that. So I don't ride for like the concept of reinforcing stereotypes or like typecasting the villain.
22:48 Benito Skinner? No, the Islamophobia is a huge, I mean, you can't talk about post nine 11 media without that. And that is a massive part.
22:55 Mary Beth Barone? It's an unfortunate byproduct.
22:57 Benito Skinner? You can't talk about it without talking about some of the TV. You, Homeland?
23:02 Mary Beth Barone? Twenty four.
23:04 Benito Skinner? Come on.
23:05 Mary Beth Barone? Which I actually think they made twenty four before nine 11 even happened. So that's what's really crazy about the whole thing. I want to make a Letterboxd list of post nine 11 media. And weirdly, I think Wedding Crashers. I know that sounds crazy.
23:19 Benito Skinner? It's like Wedding Crashers and White House Down are like both of my things right now.
23:23 Mary Beth Barone? Oh, God, don't bring out, it was that Gerard Butler.
23:26 Benito Skinner? You know, you know, I've got a thing for him.
23:29 Mary Beth Barone? Also, Carry On, I'm hearing the movie Carry On with Jason Bateman. Also in Juneau, this guy loves post nine 11 media, I guess.
23:35 Benito Skinner? Yeah.
23:35 Mary Beth Barone? I'm hearing that's supposed to, I have to watch it. I've heard mixed things, but I think I'm gonna like it. I like Jason Bateman, so.
23:40 Benito Skinner? I love Jason Bateman. Oh, my God. Horrible Bosses, nine 11, post nine 11 media.
23:44 Mary Beth Barone? Totally. Hard, a lot of hard comedies came out of that time. And I'm, I obviously, you know, wish nine 11 didn't happen, but
23:52 Benito Skinner? Of course.
23:53 Mary Beth Barone? The, the media that came after.
23:55 Benito Skinner? It's very interesting. It's an interesting study. It's very cinephilic.
23:58 Mary Beth Barone? It's very cinephilic. And if I was gonna teach a class at NYU, it would be post nine 11 media in film.
24:05 Benito Skinner? I love.
24:06 Mary Beth Barone? Post nine 11 media, comma, film.
24:08 Benito Skinner? I'm sure that class exists. We, let's take it. Let's go back to school.
24:11 Mary Beth Barone? I would love to audit a class called that.
24:13 Benito Skinner? Finish that degree, sweetie.
24:15 Mary Beth Barone? Two years. I got two years.
24:17 Benito Skinner? Two more years. Let's do it.
24:18 Mary Beth Barone? When is Boston College going to invite me to do the commencement address and give me an honorary degree? That's all I'm gonna put out into the world today, is that question.
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26:24 Mary Beth Barone? Hey you guys, Mary Beth here, back in the submersible. And today, I'm going to be talking to you about Zocdoc. When was the last time you needed to go to a doctor, but you pushed it off? And you made an excuse like, "I'm too busy, I don't need help, I don't know which doctor to go to." I think we have all been there. And in the spirit of doing the thing, which, as you may know, I rode for last year, sometimes you just have to book the damn appointment. And it can feel really daunting, but thanks to Zocdoc, there's no reason to delay. I think he just dropped a tennis ball, because she wants me to throw it. Zocdoc makes it so easy to find and book a doctor who's right for you. You don't need to settle. If you've been to a dentist who wants to chat with you while they're cleaning your teeth, or a therapist who only has openings in the middle of the workday,
27:08 Mary Beth Barone? there are so many other doctors out there. And what's amazing is that you can filter by location, by insurance, and a bunch of other stuff, I'm sure. Zocdoc is a free app and website where you can search and compare high-quality in-network doctors and click to instantly book an appointment. We're talking about in-network appointments with more than 100,000 doctors across every specialty. From mental health to dental health, primary care to urgent care, and more. On my to-do list for the year is to find a primary care doctor. I've never had one. I've actually used Zocdoc so many times. I had to find a dentist in an emergency in Los Angeles once, because I had a cavity. I wasn't able to floss one of my teeth. And thank God, I found a dentist on Zocdoc who was able to take me the next day, and they filled it for me.
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28:09 Benito Skinner? Speaking of post-9/11 media, YOLO. Dear media, clip that.
28:14 Mary Beth Barone? Dear media, clip that.
28:15 Benito Skinner? I don't know where this came from. I don't, I don't think we should look it up. I don't think it'll lead us anywhere good.
28:22 Mary Beth Barone? Mm-mm. I just want to look up one thing, because I wanted to see if Zac Efron still has the YOLO tattoo on his hand.
28:27 Benito Skinner? He has to.
28:29 Mary Beth Barone? I'm not sure. I'm not sure, but I just know that that happened.
28:33 Benito Skinner? Who would ever get rid of something like that? It's that's why I think sometimes tattoos are incredible because they can speak to who you were at that time. And if you want that memory, like, I understand that. Like, when people are embarrassed of a tattoo, I'm like, yeah, that does suck that you have that and it'd be expensive to get rid of it. It was described to me once as like a marker of who they were at the time and that kind of being like nostalgic and sweet to them. And I'm like, totally, the ink's bleeding and it looks bad, but I like, I totally get that.
28:59 Mary Beth Barone? Like my nine 11 poem, it's like, that's who I was at the time. And it's immortalized. So I think, and can I say one thing about YOLO? A lot of people are acting like they're gonna get to do this again.
29:10 Benito Skinner? No, a lot of people are acting like you lived twice.
29:13 Mary Beth Barone? Like you lived twice.
29:14 Benito Skinner? You don't.
29:15 Mary Beth Barone? A lot of people are out there acting like you lived more than once. They're not making good choices for this time around.
29:20 Benito Skinner? I completely agree.
29:21 Mary Beth Barone? And guess what? I don't need to see it.
29:23 Benito Skinner? Uh-uh. Knock it off.
29:26 Mary Beth Barone? And yet.
29:27 Benito Skinner? So YOLO, I wonder, I mean, I think that era, it feels very like when we were in college vibes, you know, high school, like 2012, 2016 era. Obviously, all of it post nine 11. But no, I don't have much to say on it. I just, I ride for it because I don't know, we used to have sentiments like that, like Carpe Diem.
29:50 Mary Beth Barone? It's so Carpe Diem and it really came, it came around this time when acronyms were just everything.
29:56 Benito Skinner? It was everything.
29:57 Mary Beth Barone? It was LOL, it was G to G.
29:59 Benito Skinner? I'm in Miami, bitch.
30:01 Mary Beth Barone? I'm in Miami, trick.
30:03 Benito Skinner? Like, that's fucking.
30:04 Mary Beth Barone? It's LMFAO.
30:06 Benito Skinner? Like, it is so that. It's like LOL, Miley Cyrus and Demi Moore. Like, there's just something about it where like YOLO is neon. I do think that underneath it all, there is like a really beautiful sentiment. Like, that's what's so funny about it of like, yeah, like, you only live once, let's make ourselves feel good, let's make the people around us feel good, let's take a risk. I think the precursor to it is Hilary Duff's Why Not?
30:31 Mary Beth Barone? Take a crazy chance.
30:33 Benito Skinner? I would think about that song all the time because I am more of like a skittish person and I'd be like, why not?
30:39 Mary Beth Barone? You always dress in yellow?
30:40 Benito Skinner? But you wanna dress in gold.
30:43 Mary Beth Barone? You always dress in yellow, but you want to dress in gold. Instead of listening to your heart, you do just what you're told. If you keep waiting where you are, the world will never know.
30:51 Benito Skinner? So let's just get into your car.
30:53 Mary Beth Barone? And go, baby, go.
30:57 Benito Skinner? Wow, God, that like, that's the vibe. It's YOLO. And I think honestly, in this era and in this like, oh my God, this 2025, which is just crass and garish. I think we have to adopt that mentality again. I don't think people should skydive, though, but that's kind of a different.
31:15 Mary Beth Barone? We say that often, people are still doing it.
31:19 Benito Skinner? Say it early, say it often.
31:21 Mary Beth Barone? Say it early, say it often. We don't need to skydive. Skydiving feels very, you live, you live more than once.
31:27 Benito Skinner? Oh, you live thrice, I think.
31:29 Mary Beth Barone? Three, four, five.
31:30 Benito Skinner? I feel like now I do YOLO because I sometimes, it can also be about like, I think everyone thinks it's wild, but it can also be about like being thoughtful about your safety.
31:41 Mary Beth Barone? It can also be about being earnest.
31:42 Benito Skinner? And taking care of yourself. Yeah, literally.
31:45 Mary Beth Barone? And can I say, coming out of the closet.
31:49 Benito Skinner? Totally. No, really, like, I think YOLO got me out of the closet in a lot of ways. It's gotta be really close.
31:54 Mary Beth Barone? You have to live your life. Like, you only live once. If you're gay, be gay. Please.
32:01 Benito Skinner? And your media, if you don't clip that, that says a lot.
32:06 Benito Skinner? That says the world.
32:07 Mary Beth Barone? If you don't clip that, you're not the girl I thought you were.
32:10 Benito Skinner? You're not the girl that post 9/11 media legally blonde.
32:14 Mary Beth Barone? As long as you're not hurting anyone, you're not hurting yourself. I think YOLO is such a powerful message. It's not like a joke to me. It's not a joke.
32:21 Benito Skinner? Get the Diet Coke.
32:22 Mary Beth Barone? Get the Diet Coke.
32:23 Benito Skinner? Get the Diet Coke, sweetie.
32:25 Mary Beth Barone? You know how I drink soda for six months every 10 years?
32:28 Benito Skinner? Yes, are we close?
32:30 Mary Beth Barone? I just finished in December.
32:33 Benito Skinner? The cicadas.
32:34 Mary Beth Barone? But now I'm like, now I'm like, YOLO, like, maybe if I want Diet Coke, I should just do it.
32:39 Benito Skinner? Yes, I got one. Oh, my God, you know what I got? And I'm very YOLO right now because I went to dinner last night with Terry and my sister and her husband. And we were sitting there and I just said, I said the words that to me sound like YOLO. When they, when you say it, people just hear YOLO. I think I'll have an espresso martini.
32:56 Mary Beth Barone? Wow.
32:57 Benito Skinner? And I put my tongue through my teeth and looked at the waiter.
33:01 Mary Beth Barone? And he said it's giving dessert.
33:03 Benito Skinner? It's giving dessert. Like, really?
33:06 Mary Beth Barone? Speaking of espresso martini, do you want to talk about your coffee?
33:10 Benito Skinner? Oh.
33:11 Mary Beth Barone? You dropped a bomb on me today.
33:13 Benito Skinner? Host 9/11 media wouldn't be shit without 2008's favorite coffee. The Coffee Bean is back. You heard it here first.
33:21 Mary Beth Barone? The tea leaf and the coffee bean.
33:23 Benito Skinner? I'm getting regular iced coffees with half the hazelnut powder. Oh my god. Ah! So frickin' delish. I am chugging these. And I can't stop. They're at airports. The Coffee Bean is back, and maybe Kitson is too. I don't know if Kitson is still around.
33:41 Mary Beth Barone? We're not sure.
33:42 Benito Skinner? If Juicy tracksuits are back, the Coffee Bean's back. What's in their hands?
33:45 Mary Beth Barone? Coffee Bean.
33:46 Benito Skinner? Yeah.
33:47 Mary Beth Barone? So there's a Coffee Bean at the JetBlue terminal at JFK, which reminded me that they found two bodies in the front of a JetBlue plane, which I wanted to bring up because that's the plot of a post-9/11 movie. I never got the rest of the story on that one, so I hope our journalists are out there doing the work. Next episode, we're gonna do a quick journalism dump because you've sent me some headlines that I'm excited to talk about.
34:08 Benito Skinner? Can I just read you the one that just really rocked my world in a way that I just, I had to send you immediately? Josh Gad says he never once played Beauty and the Beast character Lefou as gay. If I were gay, I'm sure I'd be pissed. What?
34:24 Mary Beth Barone? What does that mean?
34:25 Benito Skinner? Like, what? What could that mean?
34:29 Mary Beth Barone? I can't speak. Again, Josh Gad, that's season, that's season four or five for me.
34:33 Benito Skinner? Yeah.
34:34 Mary Beth Barone? I'm not ready to get into that yet.
34:36 Benito Skinner? Diplo was on LSD during live New Year's Eve special. Us Weekly feeds us a lot, I won't lie. Okay, I'm done for now, but wow.
34:43 Mary Beth Barone? It's Kate Upton worries fans with cryptic message about troubling scenario.
34:47 Benito Skinner? Exactly. That's YOLO. YOLO, you guys. YOLO today, YOLO tomorrow. Take care of yourself, but I think it can also mean be careful. When I hangglided when I was abroad because I was so depressed, that wasn't YOLO. That was like, I'm, I'm sick of living once.
35:03 Mary Beth Barone? YOLO doesn't mean saying yes to everything.
35:05 Benito Skinner? No, no, no, no, no. YOLO can be like, no, I'm gonna preserve me. I'm gonna take care of me. I'm gonna put on my red light therapy mask and watch Zero Dark Thirty. That's YOLO. Because you only live once, why would I go to something I don't want to go to?
35:16 Mary Beth Barone? Exactly. YOLO means RSVPing no and staying home with your dog and watching Thelma and Louise.
35:22 Benito Skinner? YOLO. Did you do that last night?
35:24 Speaker 04 I did.
35:25 Benito Skinner? You are so, I know, we're working on something.
35:28 Speaker 04 I watched another movie too.
35:30 Mary Beth Barone? So this was something I put in the pod opening doc, we'll say it at the end. I posted on my story, I was watching Blue Valentine for the first time and I got a ton of DMs being like, oof babe, sending love, like I sobbed at this movie, et cetera. Blue Valentine is a Rorschach test because if you watch Blue Valentine and you think it's sad, you're in a bad relationship.
35:47 Benito Skinner? Mm hmm.
35:48 Mary Beth Barone? If you watch Blue Valentine and you think it's actually like a happy movie ultimately, because she gets out of a bad situation, she RSVPs no to her marriage. You're either in a good relationship or you're single and you're happy where you are. I think it really is very telling what you take away from that movie.
36:04 Benito Skinner? Period. I have nothing to.
36:06 Mary Beth Barone? That's all I have to say. And, and you can sit with that and reflect on that.
36:09 Benito Skinner? Didn't they live together for a month before they shot it?
36:12 Mary Beth Barone? Yeah.
36:13 Benito Skinner? That's very, yeah, that's, if that isn't us for overcompensating.
36:16 Mary Beth Barone? Overcompensating.
36:18 Benito Skinner? Stick me and you in an extended stay together and we'll see what happens on screen.
36:23 Mary Beth Barone? Hey, it's family, dude. But yeah, I think watch that movie and see what you take away from it. And maybe watch the movie if you're thinking about breaking up with someone and you need that little last push.
36:33 Benito Skinner? Yeah, yeah. I think that's great. YOLO. Don't be in a relationship you don't want to be in.
36:39 Mary Beth Barone? It's on Prime Video. Oh my God. Yes. If you've been talking about breaking up with someone for six months to everyone but the person, you need to get a dinner with them and pack your stuff. It's over. Just call it. Project 2025, you only live once. And we might die soon, so.
36:58 Speaker 05 You know what you are, Mary Beth?
36:59 Mary Beth Barone? Bisexual?
37:00 Speaker 05 Well, yeah, but you're also my ride or die. Ride or die.
37:05 Benito Skinner? Of course I ride for 9/11 media. You know, my, my dumper is always sat in the theater for all kinds of stories, but stories of heroes and defeating evil. I saw as many Avengers as I could. And I just, they, they started to be too many. So I just, there wasn't, there wasn't time for me.
37:24 Mary Beth Barone? You know the lore of the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man, which was that there was a shot, they, I think delay when that movie came out because there was a shot of him doing a web between the Twin Towers.
37:32 Benito Skinner? Yeah, and you know, there's a on the poster that in one of his eyes, it was the Twin Towers and they were in. Yeah, it's crazy and they had to cut it and some people have that original poster because it was put up in some theaters. And it's like, it's a, I think it's a coveted item to have that poster. I'll see if I can get it for you.
37:49 Mary Beth Barone? That's, that's in the Smithsonian, in the cinephiles, in the cinephiles floor. I'm glad you're doing the work in seeing Avengers movies because I actually haven't seen any of them.
37:57 Benito Skinner? You haven't even seen Endgame?
37:59 Mary Beth Barone? I haven't seen Endgame. The, the latest Marvel I've watched is Tom Holland Spider-Man, which I really, really enjoyed.
38:05 Benito Skinner? You know what? Endgame just reminded me of, there's like a, there's a really iconic snap that Robert Downey Jr. does in Endgame. Not to spoil anything, but Terry and I were, we were on vacation over Christmas and we, we're in the bathroom together. And we were just, we're like looking at ourselves in the mirror, just like adjusting things. And I just went, I did like just a nap at the end. We laughed so hard.
38:32 Mary Beth Barone? You did the Robert Downey Jr. snap?
38:34 Benito Skinner? I did the Endgame snap, Infinity War. I couldn't stop laughing. Sorry. It's just one of those moments where you're laughing with someone, you look them in the eye and it's just, everything feels good. YOLO.
38:43 Mary Beth Barone? I ride for YOLO. I think it was such a powerful message to
38:47 Benito Skinner? Thank you.
38:48 Mary Beth Barone? come into culture, especially in like your late teens, early twenties, because it feels like you kind of want to live that way. But then we were given permission to. And I do feel like, you know, we need to return to the Obama years mentally because that's not what we're going to be experiencing. So I just think everything we can do to live life to the fullest and also be safe and, and be smart. I, I think YOLO coming back could be pretty big.
39:15 Benito Skinner? Obama Media, 1989, frozen, pitch perfect.
39:21 Benito Skinner? I think Hamilton as well.
39:23 Mary Beth Barone? Yeah, I feel like we're gonna look back on that time fondly.
39:27 Benito Skinner? Obama media, that's another chapter.
39:29 Mary Beth Barone? That's another chapter in the long book of Ride.
39:32 Benito Skinner? I'm filming you. I see her in my dreams.
39:35 Mary Beth Barone? But all I'm thinking when you say that is, I'm working late, isn't Nina drama.
39:38 Benito Skinner? I know, she's very Nina drama and Sabrina Carpenter.
39:41 Mary Beth Barone? It is. I'm filming you.
39:43 Benito Skinner? And I said, it's about time. It's about time someone phones me. I'm work sing late, cuz I'm singer. I'm filming you. I'm so fucking horny. Tell me I'm the only, only live once, yeah, yeah.
40:05 Benito Skinner? Oh, my exit.
40:06 Mary Beth Barone? Benny, babe, eyes on the road.
40:09 Mary Beth Barone? Benny, go!
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