947. Q&AF: Navigating The Fear Of Uncertainty, Anxiety About Getting Older & Restoring Your Hunger

On today's episode, Andy answers live call-in questions on how to face uncertainty when life moves fast, managing the fear of aging while chasing new goals, and how to reignite ambition when your drive starts fading.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:02Andy Frisella?

  What is up guys, it's Andy Frisella and this is the show for the realist sake of the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality guys. Today, we have Q and A F. That's where you submit the questions and we give you the answers. Now you can submit your questions a number of different ways. DJ's gonna tell you all about that.

• 0:35Speaker 01

  Guys, the first way is you can email us. You can email at [email protected]. You guys can also leave your questions in the YouTube comments on the Q and A F episodes. You can also, lastly, click the link in the description below to sign up for an opportunity to be a live caller.

• 0:53Andy Frisella?

  Hang on dude, this don't taste right.

• 0:58Speaker 01

  It doesn't. Tastes like roofie?

• 1:04Andy Frisella?

  Damn it.

• 1:13Andy Frisella?

  Alright, yeah.

• 1:16Andy Frisella?

  Alright guys, throughout the week, if you're new, we have shows within the show. The first show you're gonna hear today is Q and A F. That's where we answer your questions and solve the problems you got going on with your business, your life, whatever you need to be better. That's what we talk about. Typically, it's entrepreneurship, personal development, how to get better. Then we have CTI. CTI is Cruise the Internet. That's where we talk about current events. We speculate on what's true, what's not true. We laugh about most of these idiots. And then we talk about what we need to do as people to solve these problems going on in the world.

• 1:52Andy Frisella?

  Other times we're gonna have real talk. Real talk is just five to 20 minutes of me giving you some real talk, kinda like a rant, little motivational speech, so to speak. And then we have 75 Hard Verses. That's where someone who has completed the 75 Hard Program comes on the show, talk about how they were before, how they are now, and how they use the 75 Hard Program to transform their lives. If you're unfamiliar with 75 Hard, it is the initial phase of the Live Hard Program. The Live Hard Program is the world's most famous mental transformation program ever, and it's free. And you can get the whole thing at episode 208 on the audio feed. If you're looking to get your shit together, this is

• 2:37Andy Frisella?

  a great place to start. There's also a book available at andyfrisella.com that gives all the details of Live Hard, plus a whole bunch of other content on mental toughness, why it's important, how to use it to become the person that you are meant to become. Alright? That book is not free, but it's good. Get that at andyfrisella.com. Now, we do things a little different here, okay? It's very simple. We do have a fee for the show. The fee is not monetary. You don't have to buy anything, unless you wanna stop by your friendly neighborhood 7-Eleven and get yourself one of these amazing Form Energy Screaming Freedoms.

• 3:20Andy Frisella?

  Every time you crack one, an eagle is born. That's a fact. Zach Gavin Newsom.

• 3:29Speaker 01

  You know what's born when you crack a rape one?

• 3:33Speaker 01

  Smoke detector?

• 3:35Speaker 01

  Batteries get changed?

• 3:38Andy Frisella?

  Alright guys, so we got this thing we say, it's very simple. Don't be a hoe.

• 3:43Speaker 01

  Share the show.

• 3:44Andy Frisella?

  Alright. You know what that means? People know what that means. That means don't be one of these people that just consumes and doesn't tell anybody.

• 3:52Speaker 01

  It's a really great episode. I fucking love these guys.

• 3:54Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. Help us out, man. That's how we grow, man.

• 3:58Speaker 01

  We're growers, not showers.

• 3:59Andy Frisella?

  That's right. So what's happening, dude?

• 4:01Speaker 01

  What's going on, man?

• 4:02Andy Frisella?

  Nothing, man.

• 4:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. You know, it's a funny thing. Like I say, when you like somebody, you start modeling their mannerisms a little bit. I just caught myself like him over here, you know?

• 4:12Andy Frisella?

  I don't know why I do that, bro.

• 4:13Speaker 01

  What? Cross your arm?

• 4:14Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, it's just comfortable. I'm like, I don't know what to do with my hands.

• 4:20Andy Frisella?

  What do we do?

• 4:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:21Andy Frisella?

  Oh, yeah, I gotta do it. I forgot I gotta throw in my Freemason shit.

• 4:24Speaker 01

  Apparently you gotta do that. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, man. No, but guys, what's going on, man? It's Monday. It's a great day to get better. Um, and you guys are listening to this. It's not Monday we're recording.

• 4:33Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 4:34Speaker 01

  Um, I've learned that lesson, but, uh, no, man, we, uh, it's Q and A F. We got some really, really good questions lined up. And, uh, let's make some people better today.

• 4:42Andy Frisella?

  Let's do it.

• 4:42Speaker 01

  Let's do it. Let's, uh, we're gonna kick things off.

• 4:45Andy Frisella?

  Let's kick them off.

• 4:46Speaker 01

  With a phone call.

• 4:47Andy Frisella?

  Let's kick them off with a phone call.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  Let's kick it off. Let's give, uh, let's give Riley a call.

• 4:52Andy Frisella?

  Riley.

• 5:00Speaker 02

  Hello?

• 5:01Speaker 01

  Hello, this is Riley.

• 5:04Speaker 02

  Yes, sir. Is this DJ?

• 5:05Speaker 01

  This is DJ. How you doing, man?

• 5:08Speaker 02

  I'm doing great, man. How are you doing?

• 5:10Speaker 01

  I'm, you know, I'm chilling, man. Thanks for asking, bro. I appreciate that, man.

• 5:13Andy Frisella?

  No one cares, bro.

• 5:14Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 5:15Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 5:16Andy Frisella?

  Riley, what's happening, bro?

• 5:19Andy Frisella?

  How are you, dude?

• 5:21Speaker 02

  I'm doing great, man. It's, it's an excellent, it's excellent to speak to, sir.

• 5:26Andy Frisella?

  All right, bro. Just, I, I appreciate you. What, what, what, where are you at, man?

• 5:32Speaker 02

  I'm in Austin, Texas.

• 5:33Andy Frisella?

  Oh, we fucking love Austin.

• 5:34Speaker 01

  Austin's great.

• 5:35Andy Frisella?

  Austin's a great place.

• 5:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:37Andy Frisella?

  What are you doing down there, brother?

• 5:40Speaker 02

  Uh, right now, I'm in between classes at school.

• 5:43Andy Frisella?

  No, I meant, what are you doing? What are you doing?

• 5:45Speaker 02

  Oh, what am I doing down there?

• 5:47Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 5:47Speaker 02

  I'm a musician.

• 5:48Andy Frisella?

  All right, cool. Cool. What do you play?

• 5:52Speaker 02

  Drums.

• 5:52Andy Frisella?

  Oh, badass, bro.

• 5:53Speaker 01

  That's, that's badass.

• 5:55Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. It's a fucking hard instrument to play.

• 5:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:57Andy Frisella?

  How long you been playing drums, brother?

• 6:00Speaker 02

  Uh, a little over 13 years now.

• 6:03Andy Frisella?

  Oh, man, that's awesome. That's awesome. Well, bro, what do you got going on down there? What do we, what can we help you with?

• 6:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, so.

• 6:15Speaker 02

  Alright, here we go. The question I asked was, "I'm a musician in Austin. I play in a band that is developing strong momentum. Things are coming together fast. There's a part of me that doesn't trust how fast things are moving. How do you handle situations where crash and burn seems inevitable?" And so, when I sent in that question, that was a few months ago. The beginning of summer, if I'm not mistaken. And so, a lot has changed since then. And there was a lot of uncertainty and

• 7:00Speaker 02

  lack of faith in the process with the situation I was in.

• 7:07Andy Frisella?

  For sure.

• 7:08Speaker 02

  And it just felt like it would fall apart, or it would stay together.

• 7:12Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 7:12Speaker 02

  And...

• 7:13Andy Frisella?

  And what happened?

• 7:15Speaker 02

  Well, we went through a lineup change.

• 7:19Speaker 02

  And kind of took care, that kind of took care of itself.

• 7:23Andy Frisella?

  Hmm.

• 7:23Speaker 02

  And, but now, I'm with the right people. I have my brothers and we're building something that is, that I know is going to change music and change American culture.

• 7:43Andy Frisella?

  Good.

• 7:44Speaker 02

  And if, I can, I feel I can trust the process more, but even so, we're even in a position now where things are still moving fast. And there's that uncertainty, especially when you're working as an independent musician. And there's not, you know, there's no record label. There's, our team is very small. We're just getting started. And the way things are picking up, there's that, that fear of the uncertainty where you don't know what's gonna happen. And I can only control the things I can, and I surrender to the things I can't. So, trying to

• 8:30Speaker 02

  trust the process and understand that...

• 8:37Speaker 02

  It'll work out however it works out is is tough because I want I like to be able to you know have that

• 8:49Speaker 02

  security but

• 8:50Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 8:50Speaker 02

  No, the line of work that I'm in that's that's not really what I got myself into.

• 8:56Andy Frisella?

  Right, totally, bro. Um, look, how old are you, man?

• 9:02Speaker 02

  I'm 24.

• 9:03Andy Frisella?

  Okay, so this is the first time in your life where you've truly caught positive momentum. Is that correct?

• 9:10Speaker 02

  Yes, sir.

• 9:11Andy Frisella?

  Okay, so dude, first of all, congratulations on that. Most people never even get to that point. All right.

• 9:20Andy Frisella?

  What I want you to hear from me today is that that's normal, okay? When you've never experienced something and I want you to think about it in a different context. Okay, let's take away the momentum you're creating with your business and let's just apply it to a different area of life.

• 9:38Andy Frisella?

  Let's say you're gonna go on a trip, okay? And you don't have everything planned, but you know that when you go there, you want to kind of do this or that and you have a loose idea of how it's gonna go. And you go on the trip and before you go, you get really anxious. I don't know about you, but I get travel anxiety sometimes. And you start to think about like, oh, man, I wonder if this is gonna go the way I want and this and this and this. Because you've never done it before, bro. And then once you go on the trip and you've been around that place once or twice. Now, instead of like wondering how it's gonna go, you're like, oh, I can't wait. I'm gonna go to this place, I'm gonna go to that place, I'm gonna see my friends here, I'm gonna go eat here. And you have a much more comfortable understanding of what to expect.

• 10:23Andy Frisella?

  And so that's what's happening with you just in a different area of life. You've never experienced this.

• 10:31Andy Frisella?

  You've created something that you want to create. So there's an emotional attachment to it. And then we have this, we have this part of us, all of us have this, that's sort of like, puts doubts in our head and makes us kind of, you know, hesitate and, you know, anxious and scared. And the good thing about you is that in the face of that, and this is really cool because you wrote this question, you saw what happened and now we're talking about it. But you felt that coming, bro, and you kept moving. And that is the key. You've learned a massive lesson here, brother. The lesson is, is that anything that you do, if you haven't been down the path before, is going to feel

• 11:16Andy Frisella?

  very uncertain. Uh, you're gonna have doubts, you're gonna have anxiety. And if you keep moving, like you said, the things will work themselves out. And if you control what you control, and then surrender to the rest, things will move the way that you want to move. The problem that most people run into is that they don't control any of the things they can control. And then they expect to get where they're wanting to go and it's just pure chaos. It never happens. And that's why so many people have this idea that success, you know, pursuing success is this massive risk. When in reality, the risk is not pursuing it, right?

• 11:57Andy Frisella?

  Um, so it's, you know, I know you've already figured this out, but I think it's very important for the listeners to hear this. Is that when you don't know what to do, just keep moving forward and figure it out one decision at a time. Okay? You handle today, you handle tomorrow, you handle the next day. And if you do that the best that you can, things tend to work out in the direction that we're trying to get. And, um, I would chalk this up, brother, as a very valuable life lesson. Because I could tell you as someone who's 20 years older than you. You you're gonna run into this many times. Okay. Uh, when you launch a new album, when you move from doing little clubs to medium clubs to

• 12:43Andy Frisella?

  big clubs to to stadiums, like, these are all new things. And this this process of uncertainty is going to repeat itself in your life over and over and over again. You know, when you get married, you're gonna feel this way. When you start to have kids, you're probably gonna feel this way. It's just a very natural feeling that we as humans have about never being down the path before. And the the the problem is, is that most people just stop when they start to feel that way. And you've already shown that you have the innate understanding to keep moving and then just handle it as it goes. So it's very important for everybody to listen to what Riley just went through, because this is a situation that is not exclusive to Riley.

• 13:27Andy Frisella?

  It's exclusive to any of us anytime that we do something new. All right. So I could give you examples of that in my life. You know, when, for example, you know, we've our big initiative right now is is the energy drink. Well, I mean, fuck, bro, like, I've never done this before. Like, I have doubts and I'm nervous and and I've got anxiety about those things. But how I respond to those after being in this game so long is to push hard, to make sure, to like, do everything I can. And I take all of those uncertainty feelings and all of this anxiety and all of these things that, you know, would would normally derail people.

• 14:08Andy Frisella?

  And I use that and funnel that energy into doing every single thing that I can to make sure that the outcome is most likely the one that I'm after. And that's all we can do, brother. That's all we can do. That's what you can do, yeah. Yeah, we keep getting better. We handle what we handle. We push, we push, we push, and the outcome is gonna be somewhere better than where we are now. And even if it takes longer for you to get where you want to go than what you think.

• 14:38Andy Frisella?

  That's okay because you go down, you know, and whatever outcome is produced, you, you then set that the new base point. And this is another place that people quit. People will see a project through and it didn't turn out the way that they want. And even though they saw the project through, they don't realize that, that they're not through. This is just another place for us to regather, collect where we are and then go again. And so it's the constant process of pushing through the uncertainty, seeing where we end up, evaluating that, then deciding where we want to go from here and making a new plan and going again. And every time you go again, that same feeling that you have,

• 15:21Andy Frisella?

  Riley, is gonna, is gonna occur. So the best thing that we as humans can do is to use that feeling of uncertainty, doubt, anxiety about things not working out and then channel that energy into making sure that we do the most that we can to dictate the proper outcome. And I could tell you, dude, like when I started out on this journey of, you know, pursuing entrepreneurship and becoming successful and all these things. Bro, I mean, I thought it was fucking magic too. Like I thought it was, I thought it was out of my control. I thought it was, um, you know, I thought there was luck involved. I thought there was, you know, divine intervention and there probably is some divine intervention, but.

• 16:05Speaker 02

  Oh, I believe that for sure.

• 16:06Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, but at the end of the day, dude, if we handle what we can handle, the chances of us not being in a better spot are almost zero. And then we just have to choose to keep going, brother.

• 16:21Speaker 02

  Well, it's interesting because in late December of 22, so I'm originally from Utah. I moved here November 1st of 21. And in a year goes by, in December of 22, my back goes out. My, I have a torn disc in my L5 S1. I have, I spend the next six weeks like getting myself to be able to walk comfortably again. I can't reach past my knees. It, it, that was a huge test to really see just.

• 17:03Speaker 02

  If if I had the the fortitude and capabilities to keep moving forward because especially, you know, as a musician and a drummer, I'm dependent on my body. And so, being able to work through that and I can now, I can reach past my toes. I've put in a ton of work to really focus on my mobility and keep my body in check. I I do seventy-five hard every single year. I'm I'm on it right now. It it's it taught me a lot and I was really able to at least trust in myself and know that, well, I'm gonna figure this shit out one way or another. And so when that happened over this,

• 17:49Speaker 02

  excuse me, this summer, and I was able to see also, and I knew I would be able to rely on my team and my brothers was because they also kept showing up.

• 18:00Andy Frisella?

  Mm hmm.

• 18:00Speaker 02

  And we kept showing up for each other and we never gave in. We like, we thought, we thought we were done for. We thought we were gonna have to start over and from from square one, but we there, you know, the show's real AF and I try, I I call myself a realist. I try and

• 18:25Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 18:26Speaker 02

  Uh,

• 18:27Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 18:27Speaker 02

  Operate in reality, but there is an element to this where that is a bit of that idealistic fantasy of where like the the future that I'm working towards doesn't exist yet. And so I have to force myself to believe that it does exist and that I don't have an option. And so I I twist that and use that and put that into the daily actions and I can only just

• 18:56Speaker 02

  just look at the results and know, yeah, my back went out and I handled it.

• 19:00Andy Frisella?

  Yes.

• 19:01Speaker 02

  I now I'm in better shape than I've ever been.

• 19:03Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 19:04Speaker 02

  And

• 19:05Andy Frisella?

  That's badass shit, dude. Dude, people who haven't been through a major injury don't understand how how much of a test that really is like I I'm I'm following you, bro. You should be very proud of that. That's some badass shit. You should be trusting yourself at a high level at this point.

• 19:26Speaker 02

  Thank you, and I think that I think that's the uh the biggest part that I fight myself over is because I am able to look back and say, oh, I've done this and this. I've I've dropped my own EP. I've I've dropped a live album. I've done, I've done these great things that me five years ago would have been stunned. He wouldn't have believed it would happen, but it has, and I'm not even like this is just the beginning.

• 19:52Andy Frisella?

  That's right, dude.

• 19:53Speaker 02

  And so I like, I think it's the level of the standard where I try and bring myself and ground myself to be like, you're not like you, I try and hold myself accountable so to make sure I am doing enough,

• 20:09Andy Frisella?

  Mm-hmm.

• 20:09Speaker 02

  but not get too like, I guess, drive myself crazy where it's, you know,

• 20:16Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 20:17Speaker 02

  like it, like it's never enough. I have to be able to

• 20:20Andy Frisella?

  Yes.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  actually trust that what I am doing is actually something. Because I I'm very hard on myself and especially with my, like my back still gives me problems. And so on 75 hard, I'll I'll be mad at myself if I can't do as an extreme a workout as I want to, but I have to focus on keeping my body in check. This isn't about breaking myself. This is about keeping myself in the best physical condition for what I do.

• 20:52Andy Frisella?

  It's about training your body and your mind, brother. A hundred percent.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:57Andy Frisella?

  Listen, dude, I, from what I'm hearing, dude, I would go to fucking war with you. I mean, look, you've been through some difficult shit. You're doing something that there where you feel like right now, there's no guarantee. But I could promise you, dude, if you continue to show up the way that you're going, and and you think about it the way that you're thinking about it, and you're operating the way that you're operating, you will get where you're trying to go. All right. And there's been a lot of other people.

• 21:27Speaker 02

  I don't have a choice.

• 21:27Andy Frisella?

  That's right. And by the way, bro, and I say this all the time, people laugh, but like, We need heroes, dude. We need stories. We need people that are gonna fucking build an amazing rock band out of an idea. We need people who are gonna build amazing companies. We need people to show the younger generation what those things look like. And so, dude, not only, like, you're fucking doing it, dude. Like, it's not that it's gonna happen. It's happening right now. And

• 21:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:58Andy Frisella?

  And, and dude-

• 21:59Speaker 02

  It's hilarious. I have a, I have a class, a required class-

• 22:03Andy Frisella?

  Hold on, hold on, bro. Hold on, I wanna tell you something. This is very important for you to hear. I spent a lot of my life wondering and working so fucking hard, wondering if I was ever gonna fucking make it, dude. And I was so serious and so dedicated to it, that it cost me a lot that it didn't have to cost me. Okay? And you need to understand, there is no magic to this, bro. You are executing. It is happening right now. I'm, I'm looking at pictures, DJ's throwing pictures of your Instagram up here. You're doing it. And I had a friend one time, we, we, I drew up my plan on what I

• 22:48Andy Frisella?

  was gonna do in business. And I was, dude, it was almost, it's crazy, cuz like, he was my age, and I was your age. And I drew up, I said, this is gonna, this is what I'm trying to do, and this and that. And his, his advice, or his response was fucking the exact same I'm telling you. He's like, dude, you're doing it. But I didn't believe him at the time. I was like, no, it still could not happen. It might not happen, da, da, da, da, da. And I kept working. But the point that I want you to hear is that

• 23:20Andy Frisella?

  you, you have to understand, bro, this will happen for you if you do the work. And I don't want you to spend the next 10, or 5, or 20 years so concerned about it not happening and not enjoying what you're doing. Because I'm gonna tell you, dude-

• 23:38Andy Frisella?

  The building of the process is the fun part. It's not getting there. It's the building of it. And it's, it's you doing photo shoots and performances in this cool gas station that I'm looking at. It's you doing, it's you playing in front of, you know. A bunch of people. Yeah, a, a, a few hundred people. And then, you know, five, 10 years from now, you're paying, playing in front of a hundred thousand. You know, so I, my point is, brother, is you're fucking doing it. And I, I want you to enjoy this as you do it. That's my point.

• 24:13Speaker 02

  My mom always tells me, don't rob yourself the joy of living.

• 24:17Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. And, and you can work very hard and be dedicated and still have that. Bro, by the way, I'm looking at this, uh, photo that you posted on July 23rd of 23, where you guys are like doing that set in the gas station. Or that's fucking, that goes hard as fuck, dude. Pretty fucking sick. Fucking, that's badass. Anyway.

• 24:41Speaker 02

  Thank you, man.

• 24:42Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, brother. Listen, man, um.

• 24:46Andy Frisella?

  I've really enjoyed this conversation, man, and I think it's going to be very valuable to people that are, that are coming up and chasing a dream just like you. And

• 24:55Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 24:55Andy Frisella?

  That dream that you're fucking building, bro, do not give up on it. Do not give up on it. People don't take it like you're taking it. They don't systematically take it seriously. They go, they play, they think they might make it. They party their fucking balls off. You will make it if you keep going, dude. You will fucking make it. So just keep going, brother. Yeah, love it, man.

• 25:16Speaker 02

  Thank you, man.

• 25:17Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 25:17Speaker 02

  I, uh, I will say, I,

• 25:23Speaker 02

  the thing that keeps me going and knowing that, like, it is going to happen.

• 25:28Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 25:29Speaker 02

  Is this is my purpose and fulfillment. This is what I'm put on this earth to do. And with the, the fucking sanity of what is happening in the world.

• 25:39Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 25:39Speaker 02

  That, uh, that little voice in my head will question and say like, man, you're just being a musician playing music when they're, with everything happening. But I'm like, no. What I do has purpose and value.

• 25:52Andy Frisella?

  Massive purpose.

• 25:54Speaker 02

  It's.

• 25:54Andy Frisella?

  Massive purpose, bro. Music is one of the most important impactful forms of human relation. Like, fuck dude, revolutions have started because of music. That's the truth.

• 26:07Speaker 02

  The language we all speak.

• 26:09Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, absolutely, brother.

• 26:13Speaker 02

  Man, thank you so much. I I can't tell you how much you've impacted my life. My, uh, I'll give a shout out to my cousin Derek Bowler for turning me on to you in 2018. I've been listening ever since and it is really shaped my mentality, my approach to life. It gave me permission to to go hard and get after it and really shape my life into what it is because I I am doing it. I I do feel that and it's it's only level. I'm only leveling up.

• 26:54Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, 100% dude. You're 24, dude. You're gonna be a fucking legend if you keep going. Real talk.

• 27:02Speaker 01

  That's real, bro.

• 27:03Andy Frisella?

  So.

• 27:03Speaker 01

  That's real, man. Riley, dude, we appreciate you, bro.

• 27:06Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, DJ shoot me his stuff so I can follow him.

• 27:09Speaker 01

  I got you. Doing it right now. Riley, we appreciate it, bro. We're gonna stay followed on you, man.

• 27:13Speaker 02

  I appreciate you guys. Thank you so much. Thank you, DJ. Thank you to the team, everybody. And I will promise you this, I will play Summer Smash.

• 27:22Andy Frisella?

  Dude, I I believe it, bro. And also, um, when when we come to Austin, bro, we'll have to get a bite to eat or something.

• 27:32Speaker 02

  Yes, absolutely, man. I would love that.

• 27:35Andy Frisella?

  We'll hit you up, brother. You, dude, hey, Riley.

• 27:37Speaker 02

  Sounds good.

• 27:38Andy Frisella?

  Brother, just so you know, you're the fucking reason I do this shit. Like, this is the reason I do this shit. So this is this is very cool for me, too, brother. It means a lot.

• 27:53Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 27:53Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 27:54Speaker 02

  I wear that bison with pride.

• 27:56Andy Frisella?

  I know you do. I see it. I'm walking. I'm watching right now. All right, brother. We'll talk to you soon, Riley. Thanks, bro.

• 28:02Speaker 02

  Hey, y'all have a great day. Thank you so much.

• 28:04Andy Frisella?

  You, too. Fuck, that's awesome.

• 28:07Speaker 01

  That's fucking cool, man.

• 28:07Andy Frisella?

  Bro, I fucking love that.

• 28:10Speaker 01

  That's fucking cool.

• 28:11Andy Frisella?

  I love that.

• 28:12Speaker 01

  That's fucking sick.

• 28:13Andy Frisella?

  Dude, it's the best shit ever.

• 28:15Speaker 01

  You know, and I was.

• 28:16Andy Frisella?

  And you know what's cool about it, dude? Is like it's outside the realm of what most people think that we talk about here. You know what I'm saying? Pursuing a dream, like we could, we could, we could substitute entrepreneur for the dream, right? Like it's the same shit. It doesn't matter if you're a fucking artist or an organizer or, you know what I'm saying?

• 28:38Speaker 01

  It's, it's excellence in your life.

• 28:40Andy Frisella?

  Correct.

• 28:40Speaker 01

  Whatever that it is, whatever that is, bro, I think it's fucking sick. One, one of the things who I thought was really interesting, I want to expand more on this convo. You know, but I know you have mentioned, you know, the road, the path of success being like that, that hockey stick.

• 28:54Andy Frisella?

  Oh, yeah.

• 28:54Speaker 01

  You know, and he mentioned like, hey, things are kind of moving quick, right? And I, I don't think this is something we've dove into, but when you get that hockey stick, that in that people are talking about, shit starts moving really quick. A lot of things start happening. How, how do you process that piece of it? When you go for so long and there's nothing.

• 29:11Andy Frisella?

  You fucking hang the fuck on, bro.

• 29:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, is that what it is?

• 29:14Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. You hang the fuck on and hope that you don't make a fatal mistake, which dude, the truth is there's very few fatal mistakes unless you're actually dead. You know what I mean? The rest of it just becomes a fucking part of the story.

• 29:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:26Andy Frisella?

  So, you know, I think people, people, you know, when you're young, dude, and you know, you haven't really done anything yet. You're trying to do something, people get terrified of fucking it up. And that costs them so much anxiety and so much, you know, stress. But at the end of the day, bro, the truth of the matter is there's very few things that you can't fuck up, that you can't make an amazing part of, of, of the story from, you know what I mean? So these lessons that you mess up along the way end up becoming the things that give you the skills to win at a higher level. And, um.

• 30:05Andy Frisella?

  You just have to possess the resilience to take those hits and take those losses. And appreciate them, you know, and that I did a post on this yesterday, I believe about gratitude. You know, it's easy to have gratitude when things are going well, right? And it's easy to be grateful when everything's good. But the trick of gratitude is that it's most important when things aren't good. It's most important when things are falling apart to be able to say, hey, I'm thankful to be in this position because not only am I going to learn a lot, but I have this tremendous opportunity to overcome this, which is only going to make me stronger, better, and more skilled at what I do.

• 30:48Andy Frisella?

  And I'm in a position and things may not be going well right now, but I'm still in a very, very good position compared to a lot of people in the world. Uh, you know, there's a lot of people who are sick. There's a lot of people who are going to die today. You know, there's a lot of people who, you know, they're never going to have the opportunity even come back from what I have. You know, those, that's when gratitude really matters, bro. And so, you know,

• 31:15Andy Frisella?

  when we put it all together, man, at the end of the day, it's, we're all very fortunate to have the opportunity to build, create, and become things. And it's very sad to me that people abandon that opportunity because it's hard. Right? What the fuck do you want to do, bro? You want to be, you just want to sit on your couch all day? Like, that's what you want your life to be? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It's not, it's not a real life. It's supposed to be hard. Well, it's gonna be hard regardless. Yeah, but it's, but it like, this whole, I was talking to a friend this morning, bro. This whole instant gratification, sales, internet guru nonsense.

• 31:56Andy Frisella?

  It, dude, it poisons people's mind and it fucks up their, their understanding of what it really takes to succeed. And it does way more harm than good. Because you have all these people who hear these people talk, who appear to be credible. And then they go out in the real world and they experience something completely different. That's much harder, much more difficult. And then they say, well, fuck, I'm, I guess it's just not for me. No, it's, it's not that it's not for you. It's that you were lied to about what the process actually is. And that really hurts young people, especially today. You know, one of the biggest advantages that I had is I didn't have that. You know, that's the biggest advantage.

• 32:41Speaker 01

  Isn't that crazy?

• 32:41Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, the biggest advantage that I had was that I didn't have 7,000 people a day telling me how I was gonna get rich quick. That, that was fucking, because there was none of that shit. So, you know, it's hard, it's really aggravating because what these gurus sell people. And I have real talk, dude, you should not buy anything from anybody that hasn't, that cannot actually show you their business, their product, their service. And, and that it's outside of info, period. If you, if you fucking only sell info and that's all they sell, you should not buy anything they, they fucking sell, period. I don't care who the fuck it is. So it's a, it's a good rule of thumb and dude, that's 99% of these people.

• 33:24Andy Frisella?

  Like you guys signing up to go sit in some fucking retard's living room and fucking have him draw on a fucking piece of paper? Because he's got a Lamborghini, you're a fucking idiot. You deserve to lose your money, real talk. Like, I don't know what to, I don't know what to.

• 33:40Speaker 01

  It's like the first lesson of business.

• 33:41Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. I don't know what to fucking tell you, like.

• 33:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, man, I love it, dude, I love it. I got another question, man. Uh, let's keep moving, guy, question, uh, question for Andy, uh, Andy. I recently turned 40. Uh, and for the first time, I feel anxious about getting older. I worry about missed opportunities, lost time and whether I've done enough with my life. I know aging is inevitable, but I want to embrace it instead of fearing it. Um, is there a way I can shift my perspective and see growing older as something to celebrate? Rather than something to fear and avoid?

• 34:20Andy Frisella?

  I mean, there's a lot of things that we could talk about here. Number one, 40 is really not old like it used to be. I mean, people are in shape, people are healthy, they're taking care of themselves. You know, we're moving into the first generation of 40 to 50 year olds that have been training since they were 18 with weights and eating a proper diet. And so, you know, most of the people that I know that are in their 40s are actually in better shape than people that are in their 20s because they're taking it more serious. So I actually don't see it as like that kind of aging. Um, so that's a good thing. I think another good thing is that if you haven't spent the last 20 years building something, the technology exists today where you can build

• 35:04Andy Frisella?

  something much faster than what it would take someone who started 20 years ago. That's a great thing. I don't think there's any amount of

• 35:15Andy Frisella?

  quote unquote, bad things that happen when you get older, other than

• 35:21Andy Frisella?

  having regrets about time wasted. Uh, and, and as someone who really didn't waste that much time, you know, I still have that same feeling like I'm like, fuck, I could have done more. I could have done more. I could have done more. And I think that's a feeling that anybody who has ambition is going to always feel. Um,

• 35:43Andy Frisella?

  you know, I, I don't know. I feel like I keep getting better looking. Like, you know, I think there's a lot of good things about getting in your 40s, bro.

• 35:51Speaker 01

  Um, might take a little longer to get out the bed, but you know.

• 35:53Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a negative thing. Yeah. Uh, but no one can see that.

• 35:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, right, right.

• 35:58Andy Frisella?

  No one can see how sore I am.

• 36:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, right.

• 36:00Andy Frisella?

  You know what I'm saying? Uh, but you know, I, I think, I think this is a great period of time for people who are entering their 40s or in their 40s, who do have regret about how they lived their life previously.

• 36:18Andy Frisella?

  To change those things and not waste 20 years having to change them, you know, it used to be, if you fucked off during your twenties and thirties and you turned 40, there was no chance, you know, because all the relationships were made. All the business was done, you know, my dad used to tell me, he's like, people, people build their relationships and they make their money in their thirties. And after that, if you don't do that,

• 36:42Andy Frisella?

  you're, you can't because no one wants to fuck with a dude who's 50 years old, just starting out. It's just the way it is. Yeah. Um,

• 36:50Andy Frisella?

  but there's always exceptions to that. There's tremendous stories, you know, um, fuck, you go up and down the chain, you know, Sam Walton didn't start till he was in forties. KFC didn't start till he was in the sixties. Um, and there's a million stories in between of iconic men and women who built amazing things that were over the age of 40 years old. So I think a lot of what we deal with is just, you know, um,

• 37:17Andy Frisella?

  I think it's just natural regret, you know, of, of things that we could have, should have, would have done. But at the end of the day, you can't change those. You gotta accept them for what they are. Accept what you learned from them and then apply them moving forward. And the good news is, is that you have plenty of time to, to still do whatever it is you're trying to do. And I think 40 has never been as young as it is right now. And, and that's, that's the truth. Yeah. Um, now, if you're fucking out of shape, I don't know what this person looks like. If you're fucking fat and you're out of shape and you're unhealthy, you're going to feel like you're 60. Um, And it does, that does shrink the time gap. At 30 fucking six years old, I was 350 fucking pounds, bro. And I looked older then than I do now. Hmm. Okay. 10 years older.

• 38:00Andy Frisella?

  I'm 10 years older now than I was then, and I look older than. Having your physical and your mental tuned in at 40, in your forties is an amazing thing.

• 38:13Andy Frisella?

  And if you don't do it, you're gonna feel significantly older and look significantly old. I see people that I went to high school with and no offense to anybody that might be listening, but some of y'all look like shit. You know what I'm saying? Like you're not taking care of yourselves. You're still drinking beer every day. You're still not eating the right shit and anybody can tell. And if that's how they want to live, that's okay, but most of them don't. And so I think it's very important to understand that if you don't take care of those things, your quality of life is going to be terrible. And if you do take care of those things, it's going to be amazing. Like bro, you know, people think, oh, 40, my, my, my youth is over. Well, dude, I know dudes that fucking Keanu Reeves is 63 years old.

• 38:55Andy Frisella?

  I mean, it's Keanu Reeves. That's right. You know what I'm saying? Pretty badass. Yeah. Like what the fuck are we talking about, bro? You can, you can live a quality life and do things at any age, bro. And, um, Just gotta go. Yeah. You just gotta quit telling yourself that stupid story of, oh, I'm too old. You're not fucking too old. Dude, people tell themselves this, these two stories that cost them everything. You know what the stories are? I'm too young and I'm too old. Damn. Those are the two stories that cost everybody fucking everything. Okay. Because they, when they're 19 and they're 20, they don't want to start because they're too young. Nobody will take them serious. Then, you know, when they're 30, they're like, oh, well, you know, I'm, I don't know, like, I probably should have started that already, you know,

• 39:39Andy Frisella?

  but I didn't. Then when they're 40, they're too old. So at what time is the appropriate time there? Right? The appropriate time was 20 fucking years ago. You know what the next best time is? Right fucking now. Okay. So that's the reality. If you tell yourself you're too old, you're never going to be shit. If you tell yourself you're too young, you're never going to be shit. If you look at reality, there's plenty of people that are much younger than you that have been far more successful. And there's plenty of people who have started at an older age and become icons. So.

• 40:11Andy Frisella?

  Why do you continue to tell yourself the story that obviously there's plenty of evidence that shows that it's not true? That doesn't make any sense. So we just gotta start telling ourselves the truth. The truth is this, you can be a bad motherfucker in your 40s if you want to. The Rock made most of his fucking career in his 40s. He made most of his money in his 40s. I would say he probably looked his best in his 40s. I think anybody would agree with that. I mean dude, there's, there's a gazillion examples of this. So it's just, you gotta quit lying to yourself, bro. You're not fucking old. You're, you're, you're old enough to know that it's time to get going and fucking go.

• 40:50Speaker 01

  I love it, bro.

• 40:50Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 40:51Speaker 01

  I love it.

• 41:01Speaker 03

  Hello?

• 41:02Speaker 01

  Jason.

• 41:05Speaker 03

  Yes, can we?

• 41:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, what's going on, man? This is DJ. What's going on, brother?

• 41:10Speaker 03

  What's going on, man? How are you doing, DJ?

• 41:12Speaker 01

  I'm good. How are you?

• 41:14Speaker 03

  I'm doing amazing and can't help but complain.

• 41:16Speaker 01

  What, what time, what time is it up? We got an international caller, guys. We're, we're, we're calling Sweden.

• 41:20Andy Frisella?

  It's like 1 a.m. there?

• 41:21Speaker 01

  Is it 1 a.m. there?

• 41:24Speaker 03

  No, no, it's like almost going to be 11 p.m. in Sweden.

• 41:28Speaker 01

  That's pretty late. All right. Yeah. All right, well, what's going on, man? How can we help? We got Andy here. What's going on?

• 41:34Andy Frisella?

  What's up, Jason? How are you, bro?

• 41:36Speaker 03

  I'm doing good, man. How are you doing?

• 41:38Andy Frisella?

  Doing really good. What's going on, uh, across the pond over there?

• 41:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm just dropping off a long work day. Um, but yeah, I wanted to call because like right now, just kind of give some backstory. Uh, at the moment, like I'm 19 and I went into business like when I was 16 and it's been like a lot of ups and downs, uh, this year. But I feel like every time that things like stabilize and get better, like I just tremble or like fall down once again and I have to like work my way up and it's like keeps going up and down. Uh, right now I'm at a point where... Like I worked pretty hard and and kind of stabilized, but I feel like I'm less hungry for success than I was before. So I want to see like, what is that? It's like a mindset shift I have

• 42:29Speaker 03

  to make, or what do you think?

• 42:31Andy Frisella?

  Okay, a couple of questions. When you say that you're going up and down, is it, are you saying like, you're taking like, three steps forward and then one step backwards?

• 42:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, correct.

• 42:46Andy Frisella?

  Okay.

• 42:47Speaker 03

  It's kind of like that.

• 42:48Andy Frisella?

  Okay, so you are, you are leveling up at a hot, you are creating a new base every time this happens, correct?

• 42:58Speaker 03

  No, no, like previously what's happened is is now I've been like stable. Um, but it feels like I'm still like not growing, but previously what happened was that I went up and then went completely to shit.

• 43:11Andy Frisella?

  Okay.

• 43:11Speaker 03

  Destroy it.

• 43:12Andy Frisella?

  Okay.

• 43:13Speaker 03

  But now I've like kept it, but I feel like now when I'm at this point, I'm less hungry for success than I was before, like previously.

• 43:21Andy Frisella?

  Okay, and you're nineteen?

• 43:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, correct.

• 43:25Andy Frisella?

  All right, cool. Uh, first of all, you need to erase this idea that you're successful out of your brain. You're nineteen years old. It costs a immense amount of success to live a comfortable lifestyle. It's, whatever you think it is that you need to be earning, you probably need to be earning ten times that amount. That's just the reality for a number of reasons. One, things cost more than than you think. Two, the money is always becoming less valuable. Three, we're going to be alive for a long time. So the first thing that I've got to tell you

• 44:03Andy Frisella?

  is that your goal has to be expanded tremendously to restore that hunger that you are looking to restore. Hunger happens when we have a lot of distance to cover between where we are and where we're trying to go. When we get to a place of comfortable or close to where we think we want to be, it is a natural thing for us to feel comfortable and complacent and to not feel as hungry. And the solution to that is going to be you expanding your goals and vision for yourself to a much bigger place.

• 44:42Andy Frisella?

  Now, Jason, you may not be a guy who wants to have, you know, helicopters and fucking Bugattis and shit. I don't know. Are you?

• 44:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, of course.

• 44:54Andy Frisella?

  Okay, well, then, bro, good, because you're gonna have to make a lot of more fucking money than you're making now. All right, so where is that place that you need to be in order for you to have those things? And then you have to account for all of your friends and all of your family and your future family and what you want their lifestyle to be and how you want to take care of them. And this is a big mistake that a lot of young people make. They set their goals for themselves, not realizing that, one, it's going to take a lot more money than what you think.

• 45:35Andy Frisella?

  Number two, you're gonna have other obligations come across your life that you don't currently have. You're probably gonna meet someone. You're probably gonna have a family. Your family that you have now, your mom, your dad, your brother, your sister, somebody's gonna get sick. You know, there's gonna be things that happen. And so when we're young, and I'm very, this is one of the things I did right. This is something I always thought about, and even though I never had kids, I always thought that I was going to. So I always based my goal around how I wanted to have my family be, even when I was 20 years old.

• 46:15Andy Frisella?

  And because of that, you know, I've built a very big life, especially for my age. Most of the people that have something of this size are 75 years old at the end of their life. But because I thought about it the right way. Where you still have this opportunity to think about it. I was able to create something that was able to accomplish all of that. And so if you want to be hungry, dude, you gotta set bigger goals. You gotta set a bigger plan. You gotta say, all right, this is where I want to be. 10 years from now, 20 years from now, not just one year from now or two years from now.

• 46:56Andy Frisella?

  And then we work backwards and create a system to, to make that reality. That is the, that's the big thing to restore hunger. You gotta be real and, and dude, you know, sometimes, you know, at 19 years old, we don't have the capacity or the understanding of how life's going to play out. So, but you have to take it from people that have been down the path, bro. You gotta make so much more money than what you think, dude. And what society tells us we need is just not the truth.

• 47:28Andy Frisella?

  For ambitious people that want to be financially free and successful in a real way. Secondly, after all of that, um, the up and down situation can be one of a couple of things. Okay, there is a natural progression. That goes three steps or two steps forward, one step back, or three steps forward, one step back. That's pretty normal, you know, um. In business, typically what I try to, what I've experienced and what I've tried to coach people on is that it's usually about three years. Once you get, once you get the run up going, you'll have about three years.

• 48:10Andy Frisella?

  And then you'll have a flat year or two where you have to regroup and then you'll go on another run. And so the pattern, if you could visualize it, it's sort of, you know, goes up, then it gets flat, then it goes up, then it gets flat. And that's normal.

• 48:26Andy Frisella?

  So, so don't put too much into, uh, obsessing over, you know, that, you know, you go hard and then regress a little bit. If that's what's going on. Now there's another thing that happens that you, that may or may not be happening here. Only you will know, but.

• 48:46Andy Frisella?

  You know, uh, Jason, you know what a bell curve is, right?

• 48:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's like the thing when it goes up and then down.

• 48:54Andy Frisella?

  There you go. Okay, so I want you to visualize a bell curve. All right. And you're at the front of the bell curve on the left-hand side and you don't know shit. You, you're totally ignorant to what it takes to succeed. And you start to want to go up that curve. And because you don't know shit, you, you are very coachable. You're looking around at other successful people. You're watching what they do. You're saying, all right, I'm a blank canvas and I'm going to form myself into someone who can move up. And they find these techniques. We find these techniques. We find these things. Uh, that start to move us up the curve. And we start to have some success.

• 49:40Andy Frisella?

  And then we say, okay, this is working. So then we do more of these things and then we start to have more success. And as that success, as you start to approach the top of the curve, something usually happens and it happens to everybody. It's not just me or you or fucking, you know, uh, it's everybody is that the first time this happens or the second time this happens, we, we look at ourselves and we start to tell ourselves a story that really isn't true. And what we tell ourselves is, is that we're special and we're good at what we do. And we're gifted and look at this success. It's me, but it's not you and it's not me.

• 50:24Andy Frisella?

  It's the actions that we took along the way. And so what happens is, is people let their ego start to make them believe that they are special, that it's them and that whatever they touch will actually work. And because they stopped doing the things that got them there.

• 50:43Andy Frisella?

  And stop valuing the system that got them there. They start to go back down the other side of the curve. And then what happens is they fall all the way down. They get to the bottom and then by the time they're at the bottom, they're humble again. All right. Because they're like, fuck, I just lost everything. What the fuck? So then they start listening again and then they go back to the system and then they go up the curve. And then the same thing happens again and again and again. And so most people's lives look like a giant up and down, right? Like the, you start to the left, it goes up, it comes back down, goes up, comes back down like a wave. And you have to break that pattern by recognizing that when you are successful and when you are doing well,

• 51:28Andy Frisella?

  at the top of that curve, you have to stop and be aware and say, okay, I've been here before. This is happening. It's good. What happened last time that it fell apart? And how do I avoid that? And the answer usually is very simple. It's you have to continue to do the things that got you there, improve upon them and be extra diligent about keeping your, uh, your foot on the throttle to make sure that you continue to move up as opposed to falling back down the other side of the curve. In fact, guys, um, we need to work at some sort of whiteboard situation in here. So I can like do that. Um, so for next show, let's have that. But does that make sense to you, brother?

• 52:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, that makes like a lot of sense. And there's something like I want to add is like, uh, it's very true, like what you said. Uh, when it comes to the point like where you start to get momentum and just keep going. But I feel like right now, like also I'm becoming like fearful of like going back down again. Um, there's like also something and that's like specifically related to money. And then having like a fear of losing what I worked for. Does that make sense?

• 52:37Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, for sure, bro. Um, why do you think that's a bad thing?

• 52:44Speaker 03

  Although it just makes me, it feels like I, I can't take like the risk that I want to take and feels like I'm very protective of everything. It makes me like a bit anxious. It feels like I'm going to lose it whenever.

• 52:57Andy Frisella?

  Okay, so it makes you, it makes you hesitate is what you're saying?

• 53:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, correct. Yeah, that's the word.

• 53:02Andy Frisella?

  Okay, so, so you have to reframe this, alright, in your mind.

• 53:08Andy Frisella?

  That, it's, instead of letting it make you hesitate, it should be a signal to go harder. Okay, when you start to feel the hesitation and you start to feel like, oh man, maybe I'm gonna lose, what, what happens? That's awareness, bro, and, and that, you're, you're, you're being a realist, okay? And a lot of people will say, oh, don't think about that because you'll fucking attract it. And yeah, if you obsess about losing, you're gonna lose. But if it pops into your head and you get a little scared and you get a little anxious, that's your awareness telling you that I need to push forward. I need to continue to go and that is not a bad thing. That's a really great thing, bro.

• 53:52Andy Frisella?

  Because most people don't have that fear of losing and then all of a sudden they just lost and they're like, how'd this happen? What happened here? Right, so the fear is actually a good signal to receive because it pushes you down the path further. Jason, I am terrified of fucking losing, bro. I fucking, I, I, I, I think about it all the time, bro. I don't wanna lose. But you know what happens when I start to feel like I'm losing? These guys in here know exactly what the fuck hap- what happens. You get about 7,000 text messages in an hour. Shit gets going again. Right, exactly. So, yeah dude, and they do- is that true or not true? It's fucking real. Can you guys tell when I'm starting to get fucking nervous? Absolutely.

• 54:35Andy Frisella?

  Alright, because bro, that's, and, and other motherfuckers won't tell you this because they wanna be like, oh, I'm never scared. I'm always on my ass. Well, let me tell you something, bro. I'm scared all the fucking time. That's why I run so fast. You know, I don't wanna go back to where I came from. I don't wanna fucking lose. And so the minute I start to feel that, I start to do things that are productive towards where I wanna go. And you will never eliminate that fear, brother. It will never go away. Even when you've gotten to where you want to go and you're, you've accomplished everything that you've ever wanted to accomplish. You're going to still have that fear because that's, that's the trait of an ambitious person. Someone who is a builder, a creator, and you were gifted with that. Not everybody's gifted with that, bro.

• 55:19Andy Frisella?

  So it's actually a really good thing that you have that as long as you don't hesitate. And instead of hesitating, it should trigger you forward. Does that make sense?

• 55:31Speaker 03

  That makes a little sense. I actually haven't thought of it before. Like I usually have like listened to people in like mindset and stuff. And they always say like, you need to be abundant and stuff like that.

• 55:42Andy Frisella?

  There's truth to that, too. You don't want to obsess over the fear. Okay? You want to feel it. You want to accept it. You want to recognize what it is. And then you want to get focused on the abundance and the wealth and the success that you're going to create. By taking action, by taking action. You gotta do something. Yeah, you gotta take action, dude. Yeah. So, um, listen, for 19 years old, man, this is, this is totally normal. And unfortunately, I, I wish I could tell you, hey, man, uh, it goes away after this. But it's never gone away for me. Um, I, I don't think. I don't think it will ever go away for me because I think I've been implanted with some sort of drive.

• 56:26Andy Frisella?

  That is just part of who I am and part of my DNA. And. One of my good friends who's been on the show before, uh, Zoltan from Five Finger Death Punch. We were sitting in my, we were sitting in my, uh, in my cigar lounge and we were having a conversation. You were there. And I was telling him how I was struggling sort of like with what you're talking about. Um, only for me, it was, I have a hard time fitting in with regular people and caring about what regular people care about. Because it's just not interesting to me. And every time I try to care about it, I, I get miserable. And he said something to me that was just like, it kind of reset.

• 57:06Andy Frisella?

  It made, it fixed my mentality immediately. He's like, bro, um, did you ever think that maybe you're just a fucking warrior? And this is what you're meant to do because the world needs people like you. And. It fixed my whole mentality and now that that anxiety and that frustration is just something that I've accepted about myself and I think you would do yourself a massive favor, brother, by just accepting that you were given the gift of ambition and drive and it's very important for you to fulfill that. And you're going to feel differently than what most people feel. Most people are going to get satisfaction from earning X amount of dollars and living a normal life and doing the regular things that everybody else does. And unfortunately,

• 57:50Andy Frisella?

  bro, that's probably going to feel weird for you and because you're built differently. And there is a true thing of people being built differently and given different gifts. And when you're given the gift of being a builder and a creator and someone who contributes and also, you know, as a result of the things you build, create and contribute, you become wealthy, it's just a different life, dude. And and there's going to be anxiety and there's going to be fear and there's going to be frustration. And as long as you know how to deal with those things properly, brother, it's you're going to be one of the people that everybody looks at and says, that's why I know I can do what I'm going to try to do. And I think that's the most noble thing that we can do as human beings is to inspire others through our own stories.

• 58:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, man, it sounds really good. Like when you read something like that, it actually like kind of all positive, honestly. Yeah. So it makes me like push harder. I haven't thought of it.

• 58:46Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, you've been given you've been given a gift, Jason.

• 58:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, appreciate it, man.

• 58:51Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, you're not like you're not like everybody else. You wouldn't be calling into the show if you were.

• 58:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, like I had a different path like before I dropped out of school when I was like 16 to go into like entrepreneurship and stuff like that.

• 59:04Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 59:05Speaker 03

  And also I've been an inspiration for me to do that as well, to go all in on this.

• 59:10Andy Frisella?

  Well, brother, you're the Hey, bro, you're the reason I do this shit, bro. I just you I love that we're doing call-ins now because it reminds me that like, people are actually going out and executing. So I appreciate that very much, dude. But what I appreciate more is that you have the courage to go out and do this because it's required, man. People need to see these stories and they need to see, you know, young Jason who dropped out of school at 15 years old to build something that he cared about. That's gonna inspire other people, man. You know, I was never someone who did well in school either. I couldn't do it. I wasn't focused on it. It wasn't something I cared about.

• 59:49Andy Frisella?

  And hearing the stories of other people gave me hope. It said, okay, well, maybe you're not meant for that path. Maybe you're meant for this path. And I spent a lot of time thinking I was fucked up. But until I found other stories of people that felt like me, bro.

• 1:00:08Andy Frisella?

  It was a bad situation for me mentally. So like, remember this. 10 years from now, people are gonna be looking at you in your community and in your country. And they're gonna be saying, fuck dude, Jason did it. I could fucking do it. I'm not built like everybody. I'm not getting straight A's. That doesn't mean that I can't go out and build shit. And it's gonna be a very important thing, dude. And I really have a tremendous amount of respect for anybody who decides to go do that. Because it's against the grain and it takes a lot of courage to do. And I really, really fucking appreciate you doing it, dude.

• 1:00:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, thank you, man. Appreciate it. By the way, I think everybody who's listening to the show should do 75 words as well. I jumped onto that as well. It's been freaking amazing so far. I'm gonna finish that. I have like 20 days left.

• 1:00:53Andy Frisella?

  Fuck yeah, man.

• 1:00:54Speaker 03

  It's freaking great, man. I'm listening to the show every day as well, so I love what you guys are doing there. Amazing work.

• 1:01:00Andy Frisella?

  Thank you, brother. I appreciate it, man. We all appreciate it. We're all sitting here.

• 1:01:03Speaker 01

  We appreciate you, bro. Alright, Jason, we'll catch you with you next time, man.

• 1:01:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, thank you, guys. Have a great day.

• 1:01:10Andy Frisella?

  You too.

• 1:01:12Speaker 01

  I love that, dude.

• 1:01:13Andy Frisella?

  Bro, I fucking love hearing from these young, young people.

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

  Doing it.

• 1:01:18Andy Frisella?

  Dude, it's so inspiring to me.

• 1:01:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:21Andy Frisella?

  It makes me feel like, dude, cuz you know, you know me as well as anybody. One of the biggest things I struggle with is like, does this, what we do here even matter? You know what I mean? Like, I don't see the people out here doing these things.

• 1:01:34Speaker 01

  My fuckers in Sweden.

• 1:01:35Andy Frisella?

  I know. And that, I just love that.

• 1:01:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:38Andy Frisella?

  Like, it makes me feel like, okay, well, maybe, cuz dude, even if one or two people do this, if I spend 10 years and fucking one or two or five people, it's worth it. You know?

• 1:01:48Speaker 01

  100%, bro. I love it, dude. Yeah, I think the biggest piece on that, man, is making, you gotta, you gotta dream bigger.

• 1:01:55Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:56Speaker 01

  You gotta, you gotta make that vision so fucking big, bro.

• 1:01:58Andy Frisella?

  It's hard for people who have never witnessed that in person to do.

• 1:02:05Andy Frisella?

  That's why we talk about, I think we talked about this last week too, but like people have to do intentional proximity success. You can't, you have to be intentional about it. You have to go where they go. You have to be around who they are. You have to make friends with them. If you have to pay to be in a network. That's okay. Make sure it's not one of these fucking stupid ones.

• 1:02:24Speaker 01

  I'm sure it's a real one.

• 1:02:25Andy Frisella?

  But the point is, is that if you've never experienced it, you have to intentionally be around it. And that doesn't mean anything more than proximity. And I think the most valuable thing that people can learn from being around successful people. And this is what I've learned. This is the biggest lesson I've ever learned about people. Is that they're all normal like you and me and everybody else. They're not special. I used to think they were special, bro. I used to think it was a club. I used to think there was like a special handshake or a fucking secret knock. And that's not what it is, dude. It's, it's regular people. Who have huge massive goals. Who almost always have a massive chip on their shoulder to prove something. And they just go. And, um, you know, this is why we talk about

• 1:03:11Andy Frisella?

  the myth of this lesson, this, this myth that goes around like, oh man, that guy did all that, but he must've had it fucking handed to him and it was so easy. No, you stupid fuck. The reason that these people built shit is because it was hard for them at some point in their life and they learned grit, resilience. And they had enough pain from where they came from, that they want to get the fuck away from it, no matter what it takes. The people that are the most successful, that are self-made are generally the ones that come from the hardest situations. That's the fucking truth. It is the complete opposite of what most people say. So,

• 1:03:54Andy Frisella?

  you know, if you're doing, if you're trying to do shit and you see, you know, you look around, you're like, fuck, my life is so fucked. I don't know, like, no, that's great. Cause you get to unfuck it. You know what I'm saying? And that provides enough internal drive and energy and like, Fucking anger and rage and like, energy to like, make it happen dude. And eventually, you know, you get past that point. Eventually you get, mostly pass it. You know, someone step on your toes, that's different. But you'll get to a point where it's very purpose driven. And there are purpose driven people that start out at the beginning, purpose driven, but it's few and far between.

• 1:04:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, I love it dude. I love it guys. Andy, bro, that was, that was three.

• 1:04:38Andy Frisella?

  Yep. Alright guys, let's go kick ass. We'll see you when we see ya.