1043. Q&AF: When To Quit Your Job, Chasing Bigger Dreams & Being Intentional

On today's episode, Andy answers your questions on how to know when it's time to quit your job, how to stay committed to your big dreams without losing touch with your roots, and how to be more intentional and present in your everyday life.

• 0:16Speaker 00

  What is up guys, it's Andy Frisella and this is the show for the realists, saying goodbye to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality guys. Today, we have Q and A F, that's where you submit the questions and we give you the answers. DJ, how can they submit their questions?

• 0:36Speaker 01

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• 0:47Speaker 00

  Let's just get right into it, man.

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  Yeah.

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  Yeah, maybe. I'm not the judge of it, but yeah, I've been told.

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  Alright.

• 1:37Speaker 01

  What's going on, man?

• 1:38Speaker 00

  Nothing dude.

• 1:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a beautiful day.

• 1:40Speaker 00

  Just doing the thing.

• 1:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, what's the thing?

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  Thing.

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  Oh yeah.

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  Doing the thing.

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  The thing is getting done.

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  Yeah.

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  That's right, man. Yeah, no, guys, uh, it's great. As always, I got three good ones for you.

• 1:53Speaker 00

  Alright, man.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  And um, let's get into it, yeah? Yeah, show me.

• 1:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, let's make some people better.

• 1:59Speaker 01

  Let's make some people better, man. Guys, Andy, question number one. Andy, I've got a good job, making around 90K a year. Uh, and on nights and weekends, I've been building a business that's starting to get some traction. Everybody keeps telling me, you'll know when it's time to quit your job. The problem is, I don't think you ever really know. There's a part of me that's excited and another part that's terrified of walking away from stability. Looking back, how did you know the difference between making a smart bet on yourself and making an emotional decision?

• 2:34Speaker 00

  I mean, what's stability? Stability, a job where, you know, you could get fired because technology changes or your boss doesn't like the way you look at him? Is that stability? I mean, let's redefine what stability actually means. In my opinion, stability means that you are in control of your own outcomes as much as possible. And uh, I trust myself more than I trust other people, which I think everybody should. Um, but unfortunately they don't, because we're surrounded by fucking losers, okay? Our whole lives. And I don't mean that as like a derogatory statement, I mean that as a matter of factual description of what people are.

• 3:11Speaker 00

  Most people set goals, they never achieve those goals and they repeat that process their entire lives, which by definition makes them losers. And not winners. Winners set goals and achieve goals and set new goals and achieve goals, that's the difference. So, when we look at the environment that we're surrounded by growing up, for most of us, we are surrounded by objectively, people that lose.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:38Speaker 00

  Okay, and those people put ideas in our head, like, because they weren't able to do something, you're not able to do something. And those ideas affect our mindset, they affect our own evaluation and trust in ourselves, because it's abnormal to do things like go out on your own and build things that most people don't build. I mean, that's an abnormal thing and anything that you do outside the bubble of normal is going to get criticized by people who couldn't do those things. That is common sense to me, I don't know, that should be common sense to other people, but maybe you've never thought about it before.

• 4:18Speaker 00

  But the reality is, is most of the people you know, in your life, and you can love them, you could think they're great people, they could be great friends, but objectively, they lose far more than they win. Those people have a life experience of losing, those people put these ideas in your head, which usually creates enough doubt to where people believe that they are going to be destined to live the outcome that these people have lived. So, there's that, um, but...

• 4:47Speaker 01

  Isn't it crazy too, like the definitions of flip-flop? You know, like they, they want you to think that the definitions of flip-flop, like losers are now winners. You're a winner now if you're losing and winners.

• 4:57Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, that's cause, that's cause that's the collective.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:00Speaker 00

  Like, that's the majority. I mean, look dude, when we think about winners, there's fucking very few winners versus a lot of people that lose. And that's in business, that's in sports, that's in, I mean, how many people grew up playing baseball like I did and never made it to the major leagues? Well, that was my goal and I lost at that goal. That's a fact, okay? So, people collectively have the tendency to believe that what the collective has done is the right thing, when in reality, it's not always and rarely the right thing.

• 5:35Speaker 01

  Right.

• 5:35Speaker 00

  If ever, I don't know where, you could point out a situation where the collective uh, is the winning side. So, you have to understand that you're accepting a path and going down a path that is not going to be understood or supported by people for a number of reasons. One, they've never seen it, two, they don't believe they can do it, three, it reminds them of what they didn't do and they're like, dude, you're just not going to hear good advice from most people, that's the truth. The only people that you should be listening to if you want to win are other people who have fucking won. That's, you should tune everything else out. Um, but, the good news for you is, there's actually a mathematical equation that tells you when you should leave your job and go full-time on your thing.

• 6:19Speaker 00

  It's not an emotional decision, it's not a decision of belief in yourself, it's not a decision of, is this the right time or not? I don't know, you know, answer my prayers and tell me? No, it's fucking math, okay? You can math it out. Let me tell you, the formula, it's real simple. When your side thing pays you enough money to support your lifestyle for you to survive and eat and do your things, then it is time for you to leave the thing that is, has been supporting you and go do the thing. That's it. It's fucking that simple.

• 6:55Speaker 00

  And people get in this position of, I'm doing this side thing, it's making me some money, but I also have my other job, so I'm making more money than I was before. And usually people have poor financial habits and so they get accustomed to that for this guy, you know, let's say he's making 90K doing his job. And let's say he's making 45K on his side job, well now he's making two incomes, he's making more money than he's ever making, which gives him more comfort.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, why cut out, yeah, right, right.

• 7:28Speaker 00

  And then to go to full-time, which is what's going to amplify that result from 45K to 500K to a couple million maybe in, you know, five, 10 years. They don't want to take that step backwards, right? So, if you're serious about doing the thing, which if security is important to you, you should be, because now you're in control versus someone else just walking in and saying, hey, you know what? Fuck off.

• 7:56Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 7:56Speaker 00

  Okay, which they can do at any time.

• 8:00Speaker 00

  Uh, if you're serious about that, then you should be willing to downsize your lifestyle, take that step back from having the two incomes and go full steam, because you can't win at whatever it is you're doing with your night and weekend effort. It's not going to work, because there's other people who are doing it full-time.

• 8:16Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 8:17Speaker 00

  And those other people are, no matter what you think, they're just as good as you and they're probably better because they're getting more reps, because they're going full-time. So, you can't compete with half-ass effort, you just can't.

• 8:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. When, when did you learn this? Because a lot of people, I don't know if they, a lot of people know this, but like, you know, in the early years, when you were just getting started in entrepreneurship, you were working other side jobs, because you had to, right?

• 8:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, the first seven, seven years.

• 8:41Speaker 01

  Seven years, okay, so that, that was seven years before?

• 8:44Speaker 00

  Before I quit all the side shit.

• 8:46Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 8:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, and you know what I did? What I just told them, it was fucking math.

• 8:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:51Speaker 00

  It's math.

• 8:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, it, it's kind of like, you know...

• 8:54Speaker 00

  People put these, these, these, this like mystical, I'm going to know when it's the right time. Anybody who's telling you, you'll know when it's the right time, didn't fucking do it. Because anybody who's done it is going to tell you what I just told you, they're going to say it's math.

• 9:09Speaker 01

  Right.

• 9:09Speaker 00

  Okay, and uh, math runs the world, I don't know if you know this, but like, when it, when it comes to success, there's no mystical formula to it. It really is, win one day, win the next day, win the third day, win the fourth day, win the fifth day. Oh, you lost the sixth day, win the seventh day. And when you average out more wins than you fucking lose, you're going to win your life. It's that simple. And if you do that long enough, winning doesn't become something that you have to focus on every day, it just becomes who the fuck you are. So, it's not even a struggle, it's just the normal thing, it's the expectation. Like, you know why I don't get excited about winning?

• 9:48Speaker 00

  Cause I don't, any of you in here could tell me that, we could fucking hit the biggest grand slam in the world and I'm like, yeah, we should have done that two years ago.

• 9:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:55Speaker 00

  Because that's my expectation, I expect to fucking win. Okay, and that expectation comes from years and years and years and years and years of understanding how winning is actually accomplished. And people like to put these mystical ideas and these...

• 10:12Speaker 00

  This fucking foo foo bullshit, you know, on it because they wanna, you know, abandon the, the responsibility that they have for their own lives. You know, oh, I tried really hard, but it didn't just work out, bro. Anybody who's tried hard long enough, it's not even about trying hard. Anyone who's been effective long enough for, it's an average. Okay, if, if out of 30 days,

• 10:37Speaker 00

  you miss three and you win fucking 27, that means that you are winning at a 90% rate. All right, that's pretty good.

• 10:46Speaker 01

  It's pretty good.

• 10:47Speaker 00

  But, uh, 97% is better than 90, right? It's a, it's math. It's fucking math. You could gamify it, which by the way, uh, I've done. This is what we've built with Operator Standard where you can find the MFCO project podcast. You go into Operator Standard and if you follow the fucking directions and you can tell the difference between a critical task and a non-critical tasks, and liter- and you follow it, it literally makes losing fucking impossible, like impossible. You cannot fucking lose. And I think people, if they would remove all this mystical shit and all these what ifs and maybes and this and that, that's all loser shit that you pick up along the way. It is literal math.

• 11:30Speaker 00

  It is one plus one equals motherfucking two. That is it.

• 11:33Speaker 01

  Yeah. Dude, I, I think another thing too that, you know, people would have a, a, a hard time, I guess with this. And I think you, you, you, you said it was a, a step back is the lifestyle piece of it. And not being willing, you know, or seeing that as a step back when it's, it's really you stepping forward, you know what I'm saying? By whatever that costs. And I think it's, you know, it comes down to people not willing to take those risks, I guess. You know, they don't want to look embarrassed by getting an apartment from their house or, you know what I'm saying?

• 12:01Speaker 00

  Like, well, are you gonna be embarrassed living the same lifestyle in another fucking 15 years?

• 12:04Speaker 01

  Right.

• 12:08Speaker 00

  I mean, it's all how you look at it. It's all how you assess the outcomes and the risk. You know, most people say, well, what am I gonna, what if this happens? What if that happens? What if this happens? What if that happens? Instead of saying, what happens if I don't?

• 12:21Speaker 00

  Like, that's how winners evaluate risk and outcome. Okay, so like, it's just a perception change that you have to have. And people who lose see the world one way and people who win see it a different way. And if you're gonna win, you're gonna have to learn to see the world that way. You could stay right where you are and things are gonna continue to get worse. They're not gonna stay the same. Because the people around you are gonna get better and better and better. So there is no maintaining. You're not gonna stay where the fuck you are. That's a, that's absurd.

• 12:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:49Speaker 00

  You try to stand still and maintain, you are by default losing because the market is moving forward at all times. Okay, so it's a, you know, I think this comes from a lot of different things, but ultimately I think it just comes from listening to people who have never done shit. You know?

• 13:08Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's like, I mean, dude, I think about your story, bro. It's like, I mean, you had to, you were 26 when you had to move back with your dad.

• 13:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:15Speaker 01

  Like 26 years old, like that's prime bachelor time, bro. And you, you know, you're having to move back with your dad to, to keep shit moving. You know what I'm saying? But like, was that a step?

• 13:23Speaker 00

  Well, what happened was I had, I was living on my own in Springfield.

• 13:26Speaker 01

  Right.

• 13:27Speaker 00

  And then I moved up here to open the stores here.

• 13:30Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 13:31Speaker 00

  And I didn't have enough money to get a place on my own here. You see what I'm saying? So I did what the fuck I had to do.

• 13:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:37Speaker 00

  So yeah, at 26 years old, I had to fucking move back in with my fucking dad. Okay, like in the prime of my fucking twenties.

• 13:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, bro, I guess prime time for, yeah.

• 13:49Speaker 00

  Okay?

• 13:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:50Speaker 00

  So like, what do you think people thought about me? They thought I was a fucking loser. They thought I was failing at life. They thought I was chasing a pipe dream that was never gonna work. And by the way, they told me all those things. I heard it from everybody, everywhere I went. And the people who tried to be supportive, it was backhanded support. It was like, oh man, that's, that's cool. So like, you really think this is gonna work? You know, it was shit like that. And, uh, you know, yeah, it, it's, it's embarrassing, but I mean, I certainly don't give a fuck now.

• 14:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:25Speaker 00

  You know what I mean? Like,

• 14:27Speaker 01

  How'd you not do that? What hap- what would have happened?

• 14:29Speaker 00

  I wouldn't be here.

• 14:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:30Speaker 00

  I wouldn't be here.

• 14:31Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, that's real me.

• 14:33Speaker 00

  You know, I mean, fucking millions of people wouldn't have changed their lives with 75 hard. You know, millions more people wouldn't have changed their lives through our fucking brands we built. Millions of people wouldn't have built businesses off the podcast content that I've done. I mean, I'd say the fucking impact of me, uh, going even though I was embarrassed is pretty substantial.

• 14:53Speaker 01

  100% dude. 100% man. It takes what it takes, right?

• 14:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's it.

• 14:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:58Speaker 00

  I, look dude, that's the bottom line.

• 15:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:00Speaker 00

  It fucking takes what it fucking takes. You can analyze it. You can think about it. You can ask people about it. You could try to wiggle out of doing the work, but at the end of the day, it's hard to do. And if you're not all in, it's not gonna fucking work. That's it. You have to be fucking obsessed because there are other people who are obsessed that you are competing against. I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand. If you are not obsessed with growing your company, if you are not obsessed with winning, get the fuck out of the game because you're gonna waste your life and you're gonna get your ass beat.

• 15:40Speaker 00

  Okay, that's what it takes. Balance is not a real thing for people trying to build a business. That's not real. At least on a micro scale, on a day-to-day scale, it's not a real thing. You're gonna have late nights. You're gonna miss fucking get togethers. You're gonna miss weddings. You're gonna miss parties. You're gonna lose girlfriends and boyfriends. These are things that are gonna fucking happen if you're trying to build something from scratch. That is just the reality. And everybody wants to have both. They wanna have the life everybody else has and then they wanna have the life that entrepreneurs have at the end. Okay, you don't get both. So you either pay the price upfront and you get something later, which is a risk,

• 16:23Speaker 00

  or you have the balance and all the shit that everybody has and you don't get the shit later. It's that simple, dude. It's that simple. I don't know how to say it any other than that, any other way than that. It's, that's what it is. And if you're out here trying to justify and mindfuck yourself into thinking that like, you get both?

• 16:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:45Speaker 00

  You think you're gonna be the first human in history that gets both?

• 16:48Speaker 01

  Gotta be another way, dude.

• 16:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, there is no other way. Like dude, there's just no other way. But the good news is, is that there's no risk in it either if you just understand that it's a mathematical formula. If you understand that if you win enough days in a row and your average of winning is high enough on a daily basis, you're gonna win, then what's the fucking risk? What's the risk? There's no risk. It's just a journey.

• 17:16Speaker 01

  I love it, man. I love it, man. Guys, Andy, question number two. Uh, let's build on this a little bit. Uh, question number two. Andy, I'm the first person in my family who's even talking about owning a business or building wealth, becoming successful. Sometimes I feel like I'm carrying generations of expectations on my back and other times I feel guilty because the path I'm choosing looks so different from what my family understands. For someone trying to break generational cycles, how do you stay committed to the future you're building without feeling disconnected from where you came from?

• 17:55Speaker 00

  Look, man, do you want the life that they have? Clearly you don't. Okay? Very clearly, because you have this ambition and this goal and this awareness that you're communicating through this question right now, you don't want their life. You only get one life. Okay, you do not owe your family, if they were farmers for fucking 100 years and you have a different vision for your life, you do not owe your family to be a fucking farmer and be miserable. You don't. We only have one life. Okay, and if you really wanna break generational shit and you actually mean that, which most people say shit like that, but they don't,

• 18:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:36Speaker 00

  then you will understand that in order to break that generational cycle, you are gonna have to win at a scale that makes people look and say, holy shit, look what the fuck he did. Okay, that means you gotta win big, not just kinda big. That doesn't mean you go from being a farmer to, you know, something similar. Like working at the tractor fucking store. Okay?

• 18:58Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 18:59Speaker 00

  Now, if that's your level of winning, I get it.

• 19:03Speaker 00

  But that's not gonna change the fucking generational cycle. You're just gonna be a guy that did something different. You wanna change your generational cycle, you better win at a scale that every motherfucker that ever knew your name is like, holy shit, did you hear about what the fuck DJ's doing? Did you fucking hear about that? Holy shit. That's what changes people's fucking generational cycle. So, so if that's really what you want, you gotta win so fucking big that it's undeniable. Okay? Um, but getting back to the question.

• 19:33Speaker 00

  If you don't want what they want, there's nothing wrong with that. Okay, and if you have decent parents at all, or people that care about you, they want you to do better than them. Alright, but a lot of people don't have decent parents. A lot of people have shitty parents. And um, I was blessed to have good parents. But I'm telling you, I, I, I thought everybody's parents wanted them to do better than them, because that's what my parents wanted for me. Alright, but not everybody's like that. And uh, if you got parents like that, that want you to do what they did, because that's the level of winning that they did. And they, they are insecure about you going out, doing other things, and then they hide it behind this idea of, well, I don't want you to get hurt. Um, you got shitty parents. I don't know what to tell you.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  Sorry.

• 20:14Speaker 00

  Okay, and uh, they're not gonna believe in you, they're not gonna support you, they're not gonna clap for you until you've done it. And everybody else in the world recognizes what the fuck you done, and then they're gonna be like, man. I was, I was wrong. You killed it. I'm proud of you. Maybe. If they're real shitty, they'll fucking hate you for it.

• 20:33Speaker 01

  Yeah. Or take the credit for it. That's my boy.

• 20:36Speaker 00

  Look dude.

• 20:36Speaker 01

  You know what I'm saying?

• 20:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, I mean, look dude. I don't know what to tell you, man. People get a different, they get, they draw different straws, man, when it comes to your parents. You don't get to control who they are, or what you're born into. And uh, you've gotta be adult enough to unemotionally evaluate the situation. And not just tie your life to what your parents want for you, when it's not something that you want, because here's what'll happen. You'll get ten, twenty, thirty years down the road, and you'll realize that you did this for their approval, and they don't even recognize that you did it for your approval anyway. They just think that it's something that you just did, and then they'll think, they'll probably say shit like this. Well, you know, it's not like you did anything special with your life.

• 21:22Speaker 00

  You just did what everybody else does. So like dude, you're gonna try to bend your whole life to get approval from people that will never approve of you. So at the end of the day, what's it come down to? Comes down to what the fuck you want. And you have to be adult enough to evaluate that, and have enough thick skin and uh, emotional maturity to not connect your outcome to other people's approval, and also not hate your parents for not approving. You don't have to hate them because they don't approve. You can look at them and say, well, that's what they think. That's okay. I can still go to Christmas and and Thanksgiving, and I can be cool, but I'm gonna do my thing, and you know, that's what an adult does. You know, does it say how old he is?

• 22:02Speaker 01

  No, it doesn't.

• 22:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, if you're over the age eighteen, uh, you're supposed to think for yourself. So I, you know.

• 22:10Speaker 00

  I, I, personally, I think this is a fucking irrelevant, like.

• 22:18Speaker 00

  Man, I hate, I hate when I get like this, because I forget that this is hard for people when they're starting. But from where I sit, I, it's irrelevant. It just is. Your life's gonna be so much better, so much more rewarding, you're gonna have so much more leverage on everything around you. You're gonna have so much more financial freedom, so much more satisfaction and fulfillment in your life. Like, it's, it's, it's such a small thing to worry about in comparison to what the big picture is, and what, what you're gonna get out of it.

• 22:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. It's just hard for people when they're in it, though, like that is the picture.

• 22:55Speaker 00

  When you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty, and your parents are all of a sudden, you know, these people that you love and are supposed to be your biggest supporters, or all of a sudden they have these conflicting opinions about what it is that you should do versus what you feel you should do. You don't trust yourself, you know, you're like, fuck dude, I don't know, my parents know right, you know, it's scary, right? Um, I get it, but from where I sit, I'm just telling you, like, if you were like, uh, uh, sitting in front of me right now, and I would tell you in front of your fucking parents too. Because I could look right at your fucking parents and be like, yeah, you know, you're actually failing them as a fucking parent right now. You understand that? And they would sit there, because I'm me, and fucking hold their little head down and be like, oh, this is not what I meant to do. Well, that's what you're fucking doing asshole.

• 23:39Speaker 00

  Okay, the whole point of having fucking kids and raising them right is so that they can do better than you.

• 23:45Speaker 01

  That's the plan.

• 23:46Speaker 00

  Okay, if you're a good parent, the win, the winning in parenthood, I, maybe I'm wrong, I don't have kids, so I could fucking see it totally wrong, but if I did, and I was judging myself if I was a good parent or not, I would look and I would say, did I set this kid up to do better than me? Do they have the right character traits? Are they good to other people? Are they, do they have integrity? Are they going to surpass what I did in my life? And that, those are the things that I would rate being a good parent on, you know, some of the things, but you know.

• 24:20Speaker 01

  That's a big one.

• 24:21Speaker 00

  I think, I think a lot of parents don't want their kids to win, because it doesn't, they don't want to be exposed for what they were not able to do.

• 24:30Speaker 01

  Yep, their own insecurity.

• 24:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:31Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 24:32Speaker 02

  I would like to add like a little bit to that, because I feel like there's also another side of it. Is that sometimes the kids have a bigger vision than what the parents have.

• 24:43Speaker 00

  Of course.

• 24:43Speaker 02

  So according to the parents, they feel like they're doing the right thing by asking the kid to do what they have seen been done all the time.

• 24:52Speaker 00

  For sure.

• 24:53Speaker 02

  And what happens on the other end of it is the kid feels like, because the parents have provided me all these years, there's a very unexplained indirect pressure on the kid.

• 25:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, yep.

• 25:05Speaker 02

  Like you ta, like you always say, you're loyal to the wrong people, and people misunderstand the idea of loyalty.

• 25:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:12Speaker 02

  That comes from this in, unexplained indirect pressure from the parents to the kid, that if you don't do what they tell you to do, you're somehow disrespecting all the stuff that you have done for them.

• 25:27Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, here's the deal, uh, this is called being an adult, and this is called maturity on the both the parent and the child. Uh, parents have to get to a point where they realize that you're not gonna tell your kid what the fuck to do. And kids have to get to the point where they realize that they gotta do what they think is right. And that's called breaking out and becoming an adult, you know, but yeah, I agree with you. It comes from insecurity, bro.

• 25:50Speaker 02

  And also, like, you've talked about self-awareness too. Like, how much self-awareness that the parent have versus the kid have, and how are they interacting with each other and accepting each other?

• 26:00Speaker 00

  I mean dude, let's be real.

• 26:04Speaker 00

  You grow up thinking your parents are superheroes, okay? And then you get out in the real world, you get to be, I don't know, seventeen, eighteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen. And, you know, that uncle that you thought was the coolest uncle in the world, you kinda realize like, huh, guy's fucked up, right? And you start seeing the fucking world for what the fuck it is.

• 26:25Speaker 01

  That's right. Mom did what?

• 26:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's right.

• 26:28Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 26:28Speaker 00

  So, so like, you know, I mean, I think that's just a part of life, dude. It doesn't mean you have to like, think they're shitty.

• 26:35Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 26:36Speaker 00

  You gotta realize that maybe they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

• 26:39Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 26:39Speaker 00

  You know, you know how many people told me that I shouldn't do what I do, and, and shouldn't do what I did? I mean, fuck, bro, most people, most people. Most people, not a few people, most people at some point

• 26:54Speaker 00

  communicated to me, whether it was directly or indirectly, or forward to my face, or like backhanded, that what they thought I was doing was fucking stupid.

• 27:02Speaker 02

  Stupid, totally stupid. And I can't even imagine at your scale, but I have experienced that in my life too, where people have told me all my life, and these are direct relatives, that told me if I don't stop drawing, I would never be able to do anything in my life.

• 27:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:16Speaker 02

  But going back to the parent topic, I was thinking the other days, a boy or a girl becomes a man or a woman when they realize that their parents were not always right.

• 27:28Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 27:29Speaker 02

  And then they also at the same time realize that it's not their fault, because they're also doing it for the first time.

• 27:35Speaker 00

  I agree. That's the majority thing I was talking about.

• 27:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, goes exactly.

• 27:39Speaker 00

  Doesn't mean they're bad. Look how many people fucking, dude, look how many of these people like blame their parents for their outcome. And it's like, oh, my parents were shit, bro. You realize that your parents didn't know what the fuck they were doing either. They did the best they could.

• 27:53Speaker 02

  That, like, that also goes in line with what you said, like, people have hundred times worse conditions than you, and they have done hundred times better than you.

• 28:02Speaker 00

  Bro, tho, those, those people are what we call pussies. Okay, so I, I don't, I, you know, I'm not here to help the pussies, bro.

• 28:12Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 28:12Speaker 00

  I'm here to help the people who have that fucking inner drive, that inner ambition, that inner desire to be great and give them the tools to do that. I'm not here to save everybody from their fucking pussiedom. Okay?

• 28:24Speaker 02

  One of the shifts that happened to me when I started listening to you, and I'm hundred percent sure every listener will relate to it, is I stopped blaming everybody else for my conditions and I took responsibility and I said like, okay, I've done some mistakes. This is my condition. What can I do?

• 28:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:41Speaker 02

  Go from there.

• 28:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:43Speaker 02

  It could be a small scale, it could be a medium scale, whatever it is, but I think that's a commonality between everybody that hears you in the podcast is they stop blaming somebody else and take responsibility.

• 28:53Speaker 00

  Well, also dude, like that's part of the reason seventy-five hard and live hard exists, bro. Because what it does for people is it teaches people that you are in control of most of the things that produce the outcome that you want. Okay? Is there chance? Are there circumstances? Is there stuff called luck?

• 29:14Speaker 02

  Maybe.

• 29:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay, but at the end of the day, you don't punt your whole life because you might hit a bad spot or you might get unlucky. You control all the things you control, what you eat, what you drink, how you move, how you train, who you associate with, what information you put in your brain, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And you continue to control those and invest in those at a high level. And when the bumps come, they come. You're gonna keep moving.

• 29:39Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 29:39Speaker 00

  But like, most people will punt their entire lives because they're afraid of something that might happen. And then that thing that ends up happening as a result of that is a thousand times worse.

• 29:52Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 29:52Speaker 00

  You get to live in purgatory your entire life, wondering what might have been, had I had the courage to actually go. And really dude, is there anything worse than that? Is there anything worse than sitting around at fifty or sixty years old and thinking, fuck, I wasted my whole youth because I was scared. I personally, dude, I can't think of anything worse than that.

• 30:20Speaker 02

  What you're saying is actually proven. There was a ER nurse who used to attend terminally ill patients. And because she has done it for decades, she actually compiled everything and put it in a book. And what you just said is one of the top five regrets of people who are on their deathbed. Is that they wish that they could have done more, taken more chances and did what they actually wanted to do.

• 30:43Speaker 00

  Bro, also though, I mean, there's a flip side. Look dude, you can't have it all. Okay, I, you know, my birthday was last week and I had people, um, you know, that I haven't talked to in a while, reach out and had some conversations with them and stuff. And I was talking to one of my friends and, um, you know, they were like, you know, my kids are, my kids are getting ready to leave the house, you know, and I got divorced and, you know, I don't want to be alone. And, you know, they were asking me if I was happy with how things were going. And I'm like, well, you know, I got this great business. I've built a lot of things. I've helped a lot of people, but you know, uh, I was never able to have kids. Okay. And it wasn't, it wasn't my choice. It just never happened.

• 31:27Speaker 00

  And so like, dude, no matter what, you're gonna have things that you wish you had. Okay, but like,

• 31:37Speaker 02

  Nobody lives a perfect life.

• 31:38Speaker 00

  That's right. That's the name of the game, dude. And like, you have to be able to be grateful for the life that you do have intentionally, like meaning, what I mean by that is like sitting down and saying, yeah, you know what? I don't have everything that I want, but man, I got this and this is really good. And I got this too, and that's really good. And I got this and other people don't have that, right? But it was an interesting conversation because it was like the two sides of the coin. You know what I mean? This person had spent their life raising their kids and now is kind of like, well, what the fuck am I gonna do now? And I've spent my life building this and I'm kind of like, what the fuck am I gonna do now? You know what I'm saying? So like, it's a, it, it, it's reality, man. And it's just about like, what, what kind of,

• 32:23Speaker 00

  what trades are you willing to make? And I don't know, you know, for most people that build businesses, they're still able to have kids. So like, I just wasn't one of them. So, you know, the point is, is that

• 32:40Speaker 00

  you can either pay now and have what you want later, or you can have what you want now and you could pay later. And that is just the paradox of life.

• 32:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:50Speaker 00

  It's gonna be hard now and easier later, or it's gonna be easy now and hard later. That is the fucking way that life works, dude.

• 32:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:57Speaker 00

  And, um, the cool thing about taking the hard path early is that you get so acclimated to shit being hard that when it's hard later, you don't even fucking notice it.

• 33:06Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 33:06Speaker 00

  It's just like what it is.

• 33:07Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 33:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. You know, like the fucking world could fall down on my head and like for an hour, I'm gonna be like, fuck!

• 33:13Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 33:14Speaker 00

  And then I'm like, all right, well, what are we gonna do?

• 33:16Speaker 01

  It's gonna work?

• 33:16Speaker 00

  Let's fix this.

• 33:17Speaker 02

  The simplest analogy is when you start working out, what used to be really hard for you is years later is your warm-up.

• 33:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:24Speaker 02

  Same thing.

• 33:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, dude. It's, it's, it's just the way the world works, man. Not, you don't get to have everything, dude. You know, and people that say they have everything are lying.

• 33:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:34Speaker 00

  Okay, people that say they have everything and pretend like they don't have shit that they, that they want, but they don't have, there's a pitch coming.

• 33:43Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 33:44Speaker 00

  Okay, like I see, I see these dudes on the internet and they're like, I got this great business and I got this great wife and I got this great thing and I got this, this, this, this.

• 33:53Speaker 02

  Buy my horse.

• 33:53Speaker 00

  Buy my shit, how to do it. Yeah.

• 33:57Speaker 00

  It's all fucking theatrics, bro.

• 33:59Speaker 02

  You know, people are getting disenfranchised with that too. Like all the influencers that pretend to be pretty all the time. Everything's perfect all the time. Now people are getting desensitized with that.

• 34:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. Bro, I have to peel myself out of bed like three days a week, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying?

• 34:15Speaker 02

  You'll have that struggle.

• 34:16Speaker 00

  Dude, like, the fuck? It's just the way it is, man. It's called fucking life. Now, do you want to have life with some money? Do you want to have life with no money?

• 34:25Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 34:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:26Speaker 00

  You know?

• 34:26Speaker 02

  You said that quote years ago.

• 34:27Speaker 00

  I can tell you this, I've had life with no money and it was a lot fucking harder than when I have life now and I have some money.

• 34:34Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 34:34Speaker 00

  Cause that, you know what, like, I, dude, you know, I was feeling down yesterday and I bought a motorcycle. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, like, it made me feel good for a couple hours and I didn't have to stress about it. I'm just like, yeah, I'll, I'll take that.

• 34:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:49Speaker 00

  You know, do I need it? No, but it made me feel good for a couple hours. Like, I don't know what, like, that's real shit, bro.

• 34:56Speaker 01

  It's real.

• 34:56Speaker 00

  Oh, and that doesn't make you happy? No shit, but it made me happy for an hour.

• 35:02Speaker 00

  Fuck dude.

• 35:03Speaker 01

  That's real, man.

• 35:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:04Speaker 01

  That's real, bro. Well, we got one more question.

• 35:06Speaker 00

  It's buy, buy, everybody likes to buy shit.

• 35:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:08Speaker 00

  It's, everybody likes to get new shit. It's fun, dude. Yeah, bro. Like it is what it is, man. I don't know. I don't know.

• 35:15Speaker 01

  What would I say?

• 35:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's the, DJ's the king of that.

• 35:19Speaker 01

  What is it?

• 35:20Speaker 00

  Impulsive purchases.

• 35:21Speaker 01

  Oh, no, I like deals.

• 35:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, impulsive deals.

• 35:24Speaker 01

  Impulsive deals.

• 35:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:28Speaker 00

  He loves them timeshares.

• 35:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, man. Guys, I just got one more question for you though. Guys, Andy, question number three. Andy, I'm twenty-four, uh, and I have heard you talk about how important intent is. And I think Tim Grover said it in a way, uh, that be where your feet are or something to that effect. My question, can you talk more about why it's important to be more intentional about your time and then how you become great at it? I think a lot of people struggle with this. I do for sure. Um, where I can be physically somewhere, but not there at all.

• 36:03Speaker 00

  Oh, man, you know what? I don't really, I'm not the best at that. Um,

• 36:10Speaker 00

  that's something I struggle with as well. You know, like even when I'm somewhere where I should be present, I'm thinking about other things.

• 36:19Speaker 01

  Probably everybody does.

• 36:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean.

• 36:21Speaker 01

  Especially now with phones and shit, bro.

• 36:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:23Speaker 01

  We could be, you know, connected, but not, yeah.

• 36:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think, um,

• 36:30Speaker 00

  I think it's a practice like anything. I think you gotta practice it, you know, like put your phone fucking in a cabinet or something, you know, and just kind of like be there. Um, I'm not the best at that. I don't even feel qualified to answer it, to be honest. Like my mind's always in a million different places at, at every single point in time. And, uh, you know, you could literally be talking to me and I look like I'm hearing everything you say and I'm hearing literally nothing. Yeah. And those of you that, uh, have relationships, you've probably gotten okay at that.

• 37:00Speaker 01

  That's right, that's right.

• 37:01Speaker 00

  Uh, but it's, it's kind of like that for me and it comes in and out and, you know, when I know I have to listen, I will listen. And when it's not, and this is gonna sound selfish, but when it's not something I truly care about, I just fucking tune it the fuck out and I don't hear it.

• 37:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:16Speaker 00

  And, um,

• 37:18Speaker 00

  it's probably something I struggle with, uh, the most. Um, and I think it just takes, you know, practice of being intentional. Uh, I will say this, that when I do that,

• 37:30Speaker 00

  Never one time has something happened where the world fell apart. Never one time did, you know, the, uh, the businesses come to an end.

• 37:39Speaker 01

  Burn down.

• 37:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, like it, nothing bad's ever happened. It's like a paranoia that you have as a business owner. And I think that's natural. When you build something from literal scratch, from nothing, you are so concerned about it all the time. Because for the first number of years, dude, you are in a place where one or two things could happen and you could literally be out of business. Okay? And with social media, that is still kind of the case. Like there are things that can happen that put a big dent in your business if you're not like watching closely. And, um,

• 38:17Speaker 00

  you know, I talk to my dad about this all the time because like back in his day, you know, you, you, you close the door at five o'clock, dude.

• 38:24Speaker 01

  It was business hours.

• 38:25Speaker 00

  That, yeah. And I think that this idea, uh, and this is kind of fucked up the world, bro, because it's fucked up families and it's fucked up culture and it's, it's been bad.

• 38:39Speaker 00

  But competitors are gonna compete, right? And when it changed from you lock the door and go home to, it doesn't matter if the door is locked, business is still going on. The competitors, the, the hungriest people saw that as an opportunity to get ahead. And it was no different than when people were using steroids in baseball. Like you got two or three guys start using it, then well, fuck dude. It's like Andy Pettit said when he got caught, he's like, hey, man, um, all these other dudes are doing it and I got a $20 million contract. So you're telling me that you just wouldn't do it? Because to compete and everybody else, you have to do it.

• 39:19Speaker 01

  Everybody was using the chainsaw and you're still using that.

• 39:21Speaker 00

  You're gonna lose. And so when people started putting that time in and seeing that as an opportunity, the hungriest people, it made everybody have to operate that way. And, uh, so entrepreneurship now is much different than it was 30 years ago. And, um, not in a good way, you know, um, and I don't think that's gonna change. So I think it's irrelevant to gripe about. But, um, it's different. And, you know, you are signing up for a different life. But like we talked about in the second question, you know, there's a different outcome for that life. So, you know, I think it's just practice. I, you know, if I had kids, I'm sure I would be a much more serious about that.

• 40:02Speaker 00

  Um, like my brother's very serious about that. Okay. Like you cannot call my brother when he leaves the office. He will not answer his fucking phone. He, he fucking won't. He won't answer for me. He won't answer. Like you just, it's tomorrow.

• 40:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:16Speaker 00

  And he's great about it. And I admire that. Um,

• 40:21Speaker 00

  and I don't think it costs us anything for him to be that way. You know what I mean?

• 40:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:25Speaker 00

  So it's just, uh, it's a mental addiction that you get into, especially when you're very hungry. Um, and if you're gonna have a family, I think it's important to like really get that curtailed in. I don't have the typical go home, you know, deal. So for me, it's not something I've ever had to like really, like, really, really curtail in, you know what I mean? So I, I'm probably the wrong guy to ask, but I'm, I'm just telling you again. You know, all these people that act like they got it all figured out, they're full of shit, dude. And, and, and dude, you wanna know who's really full of shit?

• 41:04Speaker 00

  It's like Zishan said a minute ago, it's the ones that act the most perfect. It's the ones that flaunt their marriage. It's the ones that flaunt their, their perfect life. It's the ones that act like they have it all figured out. And then they try to market to you how you could do it too. And it's funny because karma always comes around for those people. Their relationship falls apart. There's a big breakup, something, and then it fractures their whole thing. I've seen it a gazillion times.

• 41:27Speaker 01

  Millions.

• 41:27Speaker 00

  I, I actually think people that market their marriage are fucking probably like, I think those are like the shittiest people. If I'm being completely honest.

• 41:34Speaker 01

  They got the biggest closet.

• 41:35Speaker 00

  It's super weird. Not only that, it's your fucking family. And second of all, you don't fucking know how to be, you don't have a perfect marriage. You, you fucking lying.

• 41:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. What's the standard?

• 41:44Speaker 00

  You're lying.

• 41:45Speaker 01

  Compared to what?

• 41:45Speaker 00

  You're lying. You're lying. Okay. You don't have it. And, uh, nobody has it all perfect. Right. And nobody's a fucking expert at it.

• 41:53Speaker 02

  The way I see it is, okay, person A is married to person B. They might be really good doing that, but I'm not person A. My wife's not person B. We are so different than that person. How can I take love and marriage advice?

• 42:08Speaker 00

  Because it's, it's hope. And that's hope and convenience are the only two products that are ever fucking sold. Okay? And people live in a shitty marriage with a shitty life. They see something like that and then they say, well, I hope that maybe I could do that too. And then they buy their shit. And I just think it's, I think it's low level scum shit. That's my personal opinion of it.

• 42:27Speaker 01

  Dude, last thought on this.

• 42:28Speaker 00

  I, I just don't, I just, I, that's my personal opinion of it. Like, I don't think that that's something that people should be marketing. And I don't think that people that are really good at business do that. Like you, you build businesses.

• 42:42Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 42:42Speaker 00

  You know what I mean?

• 42:43Speaker 01

  That's right. Uh, last thought on the, the intentionality piece of it too. Uh, cause dude, I think about this all the time. You know, you, I'll be scrolling and I see like the videos of like the, like concerts from like the eighties, right? And you look at the crowd and then obviously this is before cell phones and shit. And it's just people just there. You know what I'm saying? Like, and they're in that moment. They really, they can really, you know, relive that concert a million fucking times in their lifetime. And it's just like, it's so weird how society just in general has moved from that.

• 43:10Speaker 00

  How many times do you, how many times do you think people that record fireworks watch the fireworks?

• 43:16Speaker 01

  Yes, right.

• 43:19Speaker 00

  The answer is fucking zero. How many times, how many times do people that go to a concert, post, pick up their phone and look at the concert on their phone? They don't do it. It's stupid.

• 43:28Speaker 02

  It's so weird. Study that actually came out that talks about, first it was attending the event that gave you the endorphins, that gave you the dopamine hit. Next it moved to actually capturing it. So I have it captured.

• 43:41Speaker 00

  I'm here.

• 43:42Speaker 02

  My phone, I'm here. I was here. I can cap, I captured it. And now it has elevated. It has elevated because now the people are getting the dopamine hit from people commenting, oh, it's so cool after you post.

• 43:52Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. That's what's happening now. People are theatrically living for the approval of people that they've never even met in real life.

• 43:59Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 44:01Speaker 00

  It's weird.

• 44:01Speaker 02

  It's so weird. That's why people have this fake online personas where they just want to show you the highlights.

• 44:07Speaker 00

  Well, it's also why when you meet a lot of these people in real life, they're nothing like what they are online.

• 44:11Speaker 02

  Oh, somebody said that to me. I don't remember who said it to me, but this guy was telling that he went to a business expo and most of the people were like really, really young, doing business. That's cool. But then he, when he was actually going to talk to them, they were so awkward and could not stand the real conversation because they're so accustomed to doing everything online and typing for everything.

• 44:35Speaker 01

  Being behind the camera.

• 44:36Speaker 00

  Well, it's the same reason why young dudes can't go up to girls in public. They never had to do it.

• 44:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:41Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying?

• 44:42Speaker 01

  Like it's so DM easy.

• 44:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:43Speaker 01

  DM's easy.

• 44:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. But like, you know, I mean, look, bro,

• 44:49Speaker 00

  you can't put the genie back in the bottle. It's not gonna happen. The best you can do is learn how to manage it appropriately. And, uh, you know, this is why we're seeing, uh, in-person experience makes such a good comeback.

• 45:01Speaker 02

  Everything that was really hot in the nineties is coming back.

• 45:05Speaker 00

  Right. Because people are recognizing what we've been talking about. They're recognizing the damage that social media has done to culture. And they're over it. And, uh, they're looking for authentic human connections. They're looking to do business with companies that are that way. Um, they're looking to spend time with their friends. They're looking to be in a community. And, you know, that's, a lot of companies are gonna really struggle because they've never done business.

• 45:33Speaker 01

  They can't make that adjustment.

• 45:34Speaker 00

  I love it because that's how we built our business. Right?

• 45:38Speaker 02

  And you also said that years ago, this is gonna come back.

• 45:41Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. Of course, bro. You know, I don't, I don't, when you've been doing something for as long as I have, it, it, you know, and you have to pay micro attention on a day by day basis over the course of decades. It's not hard to understand what's happening or see it. You know, and, um, it's not some superpower psychic ability. It's just me, I got pattern recognition over the course of 30 years. You know, so it, it, you know, I, I think the business, I think a lot of businesses are gonna struggle with how to connect with people because they never had to do it. There's a lot of businesses that exist right now that are, that were built in the height of that social media,

• 46:20Speaker 00

  uh, world that are gonna have a really hard time adapting to the way that people are gonna prefer to do business in the future. And the good thing about me and is that I grew up in that era. You know, I built a business before the internet came. I built a great business when the internet came. And I'm gonna continue to build great businesses because I understand both worlds. So,

• 46:41Speaker 01

  It's real, man.

• 46:41Speaker 00

  You know, experiential.

• 46:45Speaker 00

  You know, in-person, human analog connection is just gonna continue to get bigger and bigger and bigger. And I think, once it comes back this next time, it's not ever gonna go back to social. It's not, meaning, social media. It's never going to. You know, the dead internet theory talks about this, like, over fifty percent of the accounts on the internet are fucking, actually not even real people. They're bots. So, when you think about that, and you see all these comments on the internet, and you realize, like, half of these people, statistically, are bots, what are you actually doing? You know what I'm saying? You're performing for a computer program.

• 47:28Speaker 00

  And, wouldn't it be in the social media company's best interest to create mass networks of artificial intelligent people that can communicate with the real people and make them feel like a big deal? Wouldn't it be in the social media's company's best interest to allow people to gain millions of followers? Even if those followers weren't real, because it makes people be addicted to their program? Keeps them on the platform. Okay, so like, dude, let's think about this, bro. Do you know what a million people fucking looks like? Shit ton of people.

• 48:10Speaker 00

  Okay, like, I just want you to think about this. The University of Michigan's football stadium, and Ohio State and Nebraska, holds roughly a hundred thousand people. Okay? Think about that. Now, think about ten of those, or twenty of those, or thirty of those, one, two, three million, of those people watching someone make fucking stupid-ass videos. That's not real, dude. It's not real. Okay? In the personal development world, we have this thing that is called asses in seats. Okay?

• 48:47Speaker 00

  There's lots of people who make content, who get all this traffic, and they get all these comments, and they get all these views. But, they can't fill a room of a thousand people. They can't fill a room of five hundred people. Why is that? That's because the fucking shit's fake. That's right. Okay? And they're not making a real impact, and they're not making a difference. They're performing for a few regular people and mostly a computer program. And then you think about, like, that's how you're gonna spend your life? You know, like, that's one of the reasons I kinda got out of posting on a regular basis, cuz I'm just like, eh, it doesn't really matter?

• 49:28Speaker 00

  Like, and when I sell tickets to shit, people show the fuck up, but that's because of the cumulative benefit that I provided for decades. Right? Like, most people have seen my content. Most people that are on the internet have seen my content. Now, I might not have the most followers, alright, I might not get the most comments, but my shit has been shared cumulatively for fifteen years, heavily. Okay? And, that creates a situation where people have gotten value out of it, which creates a situation where, when I sell tickets, people show the fuck up.

• 50:05Speaker 00

  And, you know, that's real influence. And I'm not just saying that to toot my own horn. That's, there's a difference between attention and influence. And most people want influence, but they mistake it for attention. And, um, you know, I think a lot of people waste their lives trying to be, you know, relevant to people on the internet that might not even be real people. And that's kinda fucked up.

• 50:31Speaker 02

  I didn't wanna cut you off, but I did wanna say this point, when you said, "Your clips have been shared for the last fifteen years and has created real influence," I am the proof of that.

• 50:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 50:41Speaker 02

  The first time I ever saw any content of you was a compilation in a YouTube video. And, when you, when your video came up, the MFCEO podcast was on the screen, I started listening to that. And then, everything in my life slowly, gradually changed, and now, especially after coming and working here, being around everybody for the last six years, the team, you, everybody, everything in my life has been changed forever now. Like you said, once you realize your potential, you can never go back.

• 51:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:13Speaker 02

  So, now I have realized, like, I can do all of this, what I'm doing right now. And, just like me, there are hundreds and hundreds of people who have come for the OS event, at Summer Smash event, they have changed their lives completely, drastically. We have hundreds and hundreds of testimonials of that.

• 51:30Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, dude, it's just cuz, like, I'm trying to put shit out that actually helps people.

• 51:34Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 51:35Speaker 00

  You know, I'm trying to tell people the reality, like, not market to them.

• 51:39Speaker 02

  Well, it also, I was just going to say that, doesn't that also tie into the intent? Like, you were doing it with the right intent.

• 51:46Speaker 00

  That's what I talk about with public speaking, you know, like, I don't know. You know, if you give people benefit, they're gonna buy your shit. It's just, it's a reciprocal thing, you know, like, I don't know. When you first, out of curiosity, I never asked you this, but like, were you living in America or were you living in India?

• 52:02Speaker 02

  I was living in America at that time.

• 52:04Speaker 00

  Oh, I'm serious?

• 52:04Speaker 02

  I was in Chi- no, that's a good question. That's a curious question. I was in Chicago at that time. That's roughly twenty sixteen. I moved to uh, America in twenty fourteen, so like, roughly two years.

• 52:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was just curious.

• 52:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:16Speaker 02

  My older brother was a big, uh, element in trying to expose me to stuff like this, just to get us motivated a little bit.

• 52:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  And that what got me to you. Yeah.

• 52:28Speaker 00

  That's super cool. Hell, yeah, man. Well, guys, Andy, that was three. Yep. Alright, guys, well, let's go kick some ass this week, and, uh, we'll see you later. Don't be a hoe. Share the show.