David & Stu... Unhinged! - Episode 47

Welcome to episode forty-seven of David & Stu… Unhinged! As always, we'd like to thank Clara Wang for creating the fantastic artwork for this podcast. In this episode, David and Stu cover the following: 1) The recent Ukrainian drone assault on Russia and the impact it had, as well as a discussion on how it probably won't dissuade Putin from continuing this war, but the nature of this attack has the potential to impact future conflicts and how they are executed. 2) Elon Musk has left DOGE and is putting his efforts into populating Mars. His management of DOGE was highly unsuccessful and didn't come close to meeting the savings he promised. We also discuss new reports of his extensive drug use and erratic behavior. 3) We revisit the topic of the Tulsa massacre and how the new Mayor has established a Trust which will accept funds to address the damage and death caused by this tragedy. In doing this, the Mayor refused to label this as "reparations." 4) We end with a discussion of Patti LuPone's interview with the New Yorker magazine, where she trashed other Broadway stars with whom she has had prior disagreements, which caused an onslaught of criticism. Patti's behavior establishes that she is not really a Diva, but more of a bitter old bitch. We welcome comments on our podcasts, which can be left on our website or any other platform you may be tuning in on. Connect with David & Stu: Email David & Stu: [email protected] and share your comments, concerns, and questions. Visit our website (https://www.rageworksnetwork.com/show/david-stu-unhinged/) and please leave comments for our consideration.

• 0:12Speaker 00

  Good morning, Stu.

• 0:13Speaker 01

  Good morning, David.

• 0:15Speaker 00

  It's always a pleasure to see you.

• 0:17Speaker 01

  Likewise.

• 0:18Speaker 00

  The last time I saw you, well, actually, the last time I saw you, you were in the lobby of the building on your way for a fishbowl at your hepatitis restaurant.

• 0:28Speaker 01

  I was to a wonderful one yesterday, a new place on Staten Island.

• 0:33Speaker 01

  But I won't talk about it today, but it was a delightful, delightful introduction.

• 0:38Speaker 00

  And also, Stu, I wanted to note that David and Stu took this show on the road on Thursday night last week after we recorded, and we went to Harlem for barbecue.

• 0:50Speaker 01

  Oh, yes, we did.

• 0:51Speaker 00

  At Amy Ruth's, a place that Stu had found, and I went with great trepidation because Stu has a different approach, dining, vacations, clothing, and everything compared to me.

• 1:05Speaker 01

  Am I wearing clothing today?

• 1:06Speaker 00

  You are.

• 1:08Speaker 01

  Just checking.

• 1:09Speaker 00

  But it's just like, I'm a little more, how should I put it, high maintenance.

• 1:13Speaker 01

  Fashionable, one might say fashionable.

• 1:15Speaker 00

  Okay, however you want to put it. So we went on this little adventure, and Stu took me up to Maltham X Boulevard. And, you know, the sad fact of life is, I've been to Harlem many times. I'm not, although I'm mostly a creature who lives below 14th Street and rarely likes to leave the neighborhood, just because it is what it is. And on the streets, as we were walking to this restaurant, it was clearly ominous. There were people high, staggering down the street. There were people eyeing us in a very unfriendly way. And the neighborhood itself seems to have had a deterioration that they have not recovered from. And the restaurant itself, they even, a waitress, who's a lovely woman, her name

• 1:59Speaker 00

  was Toshi, mentioned how, you know, most people are ordering online, a lot of people aren't coming in, mostly still impacted by COVID. Yet down here in our little world of privilege, we don't seem to have that problem. Restaurants are filled.

• 2:13Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:14Speaker 00

  Mostly with people I don't want. But at the end of the day, it's just a sad statement, the damage that was done by the COVID crazies, Dr. Fauci, and that piece of garbage who's running for mayor now, Andrew Cuomo, who killed millions of people, and not millions, but thousands of people in nursing homes. I don't want to overstate, not to mention the ass pinching and all the other crap that he pulled. So, and he's the leading candidate for our mayor, and they have done nothing for these neighborhoods and these people. And I left not only after having some sweet potato pie, but with some bitter fruit of what liberal progressives have done to the city and how they should never be forgiven for and never be trusted.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  Well, thank you for that wonderful, kind, positive upbeat opening.

• 3:02Speaker 00

  But was it wrong?

• 3:03Speaker 01

  I would disagree with you on, with respect to the uncomfortableness up in that neighborhood as being something novel and treacherous or different from the past. But I don't want to get into that. It's, the restaurant was fine. I think you even enjoyed it.

• 3:19Speaker 00

  I did.

• 3:20Speaker 01

  And that, that didn't get into your little comments.

• 3:22Speaker 00

  I said I liked the sweet potato pie, and I said we had a nice waitress. I didn't, what I noticed, though, is how the restaurant was seriously impacted, and she even said about it.

• 3:32Speaker 01

  But I think there are several causes to the lack of, the lack of business, several causes. But I don't want to get into a discussion of that.

• 3:39Speaker 00

  Well, it's, we don't have to, Stu.

• 3:41Speaker 01

  No, I don't mean, I don't object to it. I just thought we'd dedicate ourselves elsewhere.

• 3:45Speaker 00

  Else. And so, but our little field trip took me out of my little world, my little Bergdorf Goodman bubble. And I have to say, it was eye opening because it emphasized to me the disgrace of Bill de Blasio and how we all need to pee on his lawn in front of his townhouse in Park Slope, no matter what, under all circumstances. And then, on a second note, Stu, I want to mention, one of my friends, I don't leave these comments I'm writing, she called me and she told me she's been listening to the podcast. And she said that she really liked the rapport between you and I, and she felt, thought we were well informed, and it was interesting. But once I started ranting, she said she couldn't stand it because she has to listen to that on the phone with me all the time.

• 4:33Speaker 00

  Do you think I rant too much, Stu?

• 4:34Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 4:35Speaker 00

  I disagree vehemently. And I'll have a rant about that. And then finally, I want to note that there's going to be a week hiatus next week from this podcast. I'm sorry for our devoted listeners, but David has decided to go on a vacation. He will be in Spain.

• 4:53Speaker 01

  What is this, your bi-weekly vacation or something?

• 4:55Speaker 00

  It's summer, Stu. You know, I gotta do my thing. So I'm going to Ibiza.

• 4:59Speaker 01

  Of course you are.

• 5:00Speaker 00

  And then I'm going to Madrid, and I'll report back on my experience. But you're welcome to come with me. It's not too late.

• 5:08Speaker 01

  Oh, it is. My lady friend's coming into town, but I.

• 5:11Speaker 00

  Oh, that's too bad. I'm sorry. Because I think you would have, I have been very amenable to following your footsteps.

• 5:18Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 5:19Speaker 00

  You need to follow mine, so why? But on that note, let's get to more serious topics.

• 5:26Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 5:26Speaker 00

  Stu is going to discuss some things that fascinate him. He's a little eclectic sometimes, but we'll let him do it. It's, you know, we gotta let Stu be Stu. David, on the other hand, gets curtailed for ranting too much.

• 5:39Speaker 01

  He's never been curtailed. That's essentially all he does is rant.

• 5:43Speaker 00

  True.

• 5:43Speaker 01

  I've never, so, but this first subject of mine is about the Ukrainian drone attack on Russia. As most of you know, I am, I'm sure drones were launched simultaneously from innocuous looking containers that were driven into Russia months and years ago. The container, the container sat on the sides of roads next to critical airbases until their roof was remotely opened, and the drones, likewise under remote control, flew out of their nests and destroyed or damaged what appears to be at least a few dozen aircraft. And some of those planes that were damaged or destroyed are capable of carrying nuclear weapons. Some

• 6:24Speaker 01

  of the containers appear to have been disguised as modular homes mounted on the back of nearby trucks. Remarkable. The breadth of the attacks is noteworthy. Over time, five time zones, five time zones, from the Norway border to eastern Siberia, near, I might add, probably not too far from Sarah Palin's old haunts.

• 6:46Speaker 00

  Oh, in Alaska.

• 6:49Speaker 01

  The attack in Irkutsk, which is in eastern Russia, was the first time that any place in Siberia had been attacked by Ukraine's drones since the war began in 2022. Imagine that, 2022, time is passing. The drone attacks were carried out just before peace talks, peace talks were to begin between Russia and Ukraine. I'm sure that won't be a helpful item in enhancing the talks. Does this change the outlook for the war? No, because Putin is counting on waning support from Ukraine's allies, European allies especially, and its

• 7:30Speaker 01

  ability to wear down the number of, the outnumbered Ukrainian troops. I have two, two comments. One, Trump now acts like Putin has changed. He shows chagrin and surprise that, he says he had a good relationship with Putin. Well, that's preposterous. He says that about the relationships he has with all tyrants, but Putin has been playing Trump like a violin. Secondly, maybe more importantly, these cheap drones, we're talking about $500 drones, times maybe 177 or so. The future of war is being shown to be remarkable here and in

• 8:10Speaker 01

  some prior incidents in the Middle East. We have expensive ships and aircraft, and so are the Russians and the Chinese. But these drones, when occupied with ingenuity, when used with ingenuity, are turning about to be a cheap alternative. I can't imagine some new modern ships being created, even with supposed failsafe stuff. It's hard for me to imagine that some little drone won't eventually destroy something that's, you know, a billion times their cost. Second, third, I suppose, the ingenuity and long-range planning of, of the Ukrainian action reminds me of one thing. The operations by Mossad,

• 8:52Speaker 01

  the Israeli covert operations group. And I ask you to just think back, for those of you who are old enough, or have done enough thought, thinking about such matters. The rescue of the hostages in Entebbe in Uganda in 1976. A French airliner had been hijacked en route from Israel to France, and Israeli, and there were negotiations in theory and this and that, but they weren't progressing. And an Israeli commando squad flew into a Uganda airport, Entebbe, killed the hijackers, as well as 45 of the approximately 100 Ugandan soldiers that had been placed around that airport. They then destroyed, remarkable,

• 9:38Speaker 01

  while they were there, they destroyed nearby MiG jets, Russian MiG jets, which might have otherwise, you know, it might have prevented the escape craft from getting back to Israel. And then they rescued 102, that's all but three, of the hostages, the Israeli hostages. Others had been released beforehand. One final sad bit of irony to that, to one of the three that didn't make it out. She had been ill, and she was taken to a hospital. This is before the Israeli commandos arrived. She was taken to a hospital for treatment or some such thing.

• 10:17Speaker 01

  And then, once the Israeli hostages were recovered, they took her out of the hospital and shot her. I just, so that's about my stuff about the future and the past and David?

• 10:29Speaker 00

  You really had to end it on a harsh note, didn't you?

• 10:32Speaker 01

  I was ironic, sad. I thought that was maybe one of the saddest items.

• 10:37Speaker 00

  It is a sad item and it is the way, the reason Israel is the way it is today, because they are under assault and attack. And within our own country, they are as well at the hands of left wing Democrats who seem to think it's okay to go after Jews, even on college campuses. And it's

• 10:58Speaker 01

  That other one the other day.

• 11:00Speaker 00

  Right. There was a firebomb and it was an illegal alien.

• 11:03Speaker 01

  Older.

• 11:03Speaker 00

  Right.

• 11:04Speaker 01

  Older.

• 11:04Speaker 00

  Not that old, but in his entire family.

• 11:07Speaker 01

  No, Boulder, wasn't that Boulder, Colorado? Yeah.

• 11:09Speaker 00

  And his entire family's getting deported now because they were overstayed their visa. Good, good riddance. Go back to where you came from. We don't need that here. We already had enough antisemitism here. Look at Elon Musk with his Nazi salute.

• 11:22Speaker 01

  I'm

• 11:23Speaker 00

  Speaking

• 11:23Speaker 01

  Go ahead.

• 11:24Speaker 00

  I'm sorry.

• 11:25Speaker 01

  I was surprised when he said, apparently, he was waiting until his daughter got out of high school. I wasn't quite sure what he thought of all that. And I'm disappointed that he wasn't shot to death on sight.

• 11:38Speaker 00

  You really are tough, Stu. It's like the old Wild West when it comes to Stu over here.

• 11:43Speaker 01

  What he was doing, he was standing where this stuff could have, that's why I'm saying it. It's not like he was, he was being shot unarmed.

• 11:48Speaker 00

  You know what? The Democrat Party, if they were in power, they would probably give him a slap on the wrist and let him do it again with their liberal, left wing policies that have destroyed our cities and created this scenario with the assistance of Middle Eastern study departments that are filled with antisemitic radicals from the Middle East. They're not pro Palestine, which I don't have a problem with. They are antisemitic. There's a difference. And there is a difference between being against Zionist state, which I can see the merits of that argument.

• 12:22Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 12:22Speaker 00

  And being antisemitic. I think these people have crossed the line more than once and they're being funded by Iran and other interests who want to create dissension in this country.

• 12:33Speaker 01

  So, and they effectively do.

• 12:35Speaker 00

  Yeah. And, you know, as much as I can't stand Trump and view him as a buffoon and incompetent, I'm glad he's going after these people. And he's using rough and crude methods to do so. So how effective that will be is another question. But then again, he's never been much for effective. It's more like showmanship. And speaking of showmanship.

• 12:55Speaker 01

  Yes. Oh, God, this is wonderful.

• 12:57Speaker 00

  This is just the greatest end to a trajectory of failure that is unsurpassed. Now, Doge is still ongoing, according to President Trump. He had a press conference in the Oval Office and he sent off Elon Musk to go back to his companies and to work and lavished him with praise over his work on Doge. Now, Elon was supposed to save originally $2 trillion. Then he was saying a trillion. Now, as he leaves, he's claiming about a $190 billion, which is a lot less than promised.

• 13:41Speaker 00

  And there's no chance of any more than that. If, and the numbers of 190 have been highly questioned as to whether they're even accurate. Now, Trump privately has told his aides that he thought Elon and his little mission was all bullshit.

• 14:00Speaker 01

  And wow.

• 14:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. So the friendship.

• 14:03Speaker 01

  You are plugged in. You are plugged in.

• 14:06Speaker 00

  It was in an article. I didn't get this directly. And it wasn't like an unreliable news source. I think it was like Politico or something like that. Now, of course, these conservatards will tell us, oh, anything besides Fox News is like biased and untrue. But I don't believe that at all. If anything is biased and untrue, it is that news station filled with people who spout off Christianity while engaging in flagrant adultery, like Jesse Waters, Pete Hegseth, and who was the guy? Roger Hales was like a sexual predator. And there's so many other stories about those miscreants and hypocrites on that channel.

• 14:45Speaker 01

  Stu?

• 14:46Speaker 00

  Disgraceful. Now, as Elon has going out the door, Stu, he's still claiming there are about 112, 23, no, 12.3 million people who are over 120, who is getting paid social security. And he's still claiming, and that has been debunked more than once, but he's going to justify his rather ineffective role in the government. Now, the scene in the Oval Office is even more fascinating, Stu. He was back to wearing his T-shirts and baseball caps. He's no longer wearing a suit. As you recall, Trump chastised him for his attire. He wore a T-shirt that said Doge Father on it,

• 15:29Speaker 00

  which is hilarious because if he's the father of Doge, it's an indication of what a bad parent he is. And also, he had a black eye. Now, when Trump asked him about the black eye, he claimed that he was being playful with the son X, the five-year-old and

• 15:48Speaker 01

  Is that the kid's name?

• 15:50Speaker 00

  It's after a mathematical formula.

• 15:52Speaker 01

  I see.

• 15:52Speaker 00

  They've shortened it to X.

• 15:54Speaker 01

  I see.

• 15:55Speaker 00

  So Musk told the kid, go ahead, punch me in the face. And apparently, X obliged, gave him a black eye. Now, I don't believe that for a minute. To, first of all, if the kid did punch him, I believe it was probably intentional because he's poorly raised, probably has anger issues like his father. And kids often punch and hit their parents when they've got a lot of rage. Although I think there may be an alternative side story to this, assuming this kid is highly troubled, which he must be. Look who his father is. This, many attribute this black eye and wonder, does it have something with, to do with Elon's prolific drugs use,

• 16:37Speaker 00

  which is way more extensive than we were ever led to believe. Apparently, you know, he has acknowledged publicly that he uses ketamine and the, and the rest, but he is not, and hallucinogens and the like, but he's not acknowledged how extensive it is. In a New York Times article, had people surrounded by Musk and they kind of disclosed that he basically uses ketamine daily, combined with other substances such as ecstasy in the mushrooms, the psychedelic mushroom. The ketamine use was supposed to be for depression, but its use was so heavy that it caused side effects which impact your bladder.

• 17:20Speaker 00

  He also travels with like 20 pills of Adderall, it appears. So.

• 17:26Speaker 01

  What is that? I know the word, but I don't know what it is.

• 17:28Speaker 00

  Adderall is used to treat ADHD, so it helps you focus. And it also, it's like speed. If you're not AD, I think it's like speed, basically. So the guy is like all hopped up on drugs. And he's now also become a bedwetter, kind of ironic, from all the drug use. Now, they also, you know, detail his erratic behavior, mood swings and his intense focus on this fathering and repopulating the earth. And it's just, this is bizarre behavior. How a president of the United States would entrust important mission as our

• 18:10Speaker 01

  Information.

• 18:11Speaker 00

  Right. To a guy like this who has serious psychological problems, a drug addict, and clearly is losing it and couldn't stand the pressure of being in DC and the negative scrutiny he got. And, you know, he basically got chased out of town by AOC, Bernie Sanders and Jasmine Crockett like a bitch. He is a complete failure. Now he's going back to his company, including SpaceX. And his goal now is to populate Mars, Stu. So instead of wearing his Doge Father T-shirt and that other tech support guy that he has, he's now wearing one called Occupy Mars. Now, that's just crazy, crazy, because this guy is crazy.

• 18:55Speaker 00

  And as an aside to this, there were many incidents where Trump had kind of gotten sick of him, but has publicly not said so because Trump, unlike his first term, is no longer throwing his people under the bus. And Elon is a very expensive thing to throw under the bus. So he probably still wants to keep on a friendly basis. But it is also reported that when he got into that dispute with Scott Besant, where our Treasury Secretary, where they were swearing and fighting each other, who would be the IRS Commissioner, Elon actually shoved Besant. And this was in front of a bunch of White House aides. Also something I picked up from some of the things I read. So let's conclude with, I don't know where this, I mean,

• 19:38Speaker 00

  I'm guessing Elon's not coming back to the White House.

• 19:41Speaker 01

  But what about the effect of his having called it the big beautiful?

• 19:45Speaker 00

  Oh, right, right. That was another.

• 19:46Speaker 01

  I mean, that's a positive. That could be a positive thing, couldn't it?

• 19:49Speaker 00

  Well.

• 19:49Speaker 01

  I mean, if you don't like the idea of enlarging the deficit.

• 19:52Speaker 00

  By $2.3 trillion? Well, what he did say recently, actually, I think it was today or yesterday, referred to the bill as an abomination and he like trashed it, which is a further indication of his kind of disenchantment with MAGA. And truthfully.

• 20:09Speaker 01

  And with the mission of Doge, I think the guy actually felt, look, what am I doing here?

• 20:15Speaker 00

  Well, Trump has no interest in shrinking the federal government. He's used Elon to kind of seek revenge on the federal bureaucracy.

• 20:24Speaker 01

  I was just giving a point to Elon for calling it out in public circumstances. And I was just wondering if that will have any positive effect on some legislators to change positions.

• 20:36Speaker 00

  It has actually, because he gave some ammunition to people like Rand Paul, who doesn't agree with this bill's Well, some others, because they do not like the cuts to Medicare and the substantial addition to the debt. But Trump doesn't care about spending restraint. He bankrupted his companies. He never did. In his first term, he spent like a drunken sailor, added to the national debt. And Contributed to the inflationary spiral that occurred under Biden. And Biden, of course, did the same.

• 21:06Speaker 01

  We're on a very bad trajectory.

• 21:08Speaker 00

  We really are. And truthfully, you know, Elon Musk is a repulsive and disgusting person. He, that's what he's established. Me, I knew nothing. I had no feelings one way or another, but there's something really wrong. And Trump and his lack of judgment and his lack of discretion and allowing this guy to run roughshod over and our federal government for like four or five months.

• 21:33Speaker 01

  You.

• 21:34Speaker 00

  It's scary. It's a national security threat and it's a further indication of why Trump is not qualified to be president of the United States. And he, and if the Democrats hadn't covered for Biden's dementia and crackpotness, we might've ended up with a different situation.

• 21:51Speaker 00

  Well.

• 21:52Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 21:53Speaker 00

  Happy summer, Stu.

• 21:55Speaker 01

  Yes. Now, I'm going to move on to it, a more, I guess, a more sensitive subject. Something I have talked about briefly and probably in 2024. And you'll know why and when I did that in a moment. It's about a thing called the Tulsa Race Massacre. And this is a historical fact. It was a two day long white supremacist led massacre that took place in the Greenwood District of Tulsa, Oklahoma on May 31 and June 1 of 1921. Mobbs of white residents, some of whom had been appointed as deputies and armed by city

• 22:35Speaker 01

  government officials, attacked black residents and destroyed homes and businesses. It's the worst incident of racial violence in our history that I can think of. Worst single incident. The attackers burned and destroyed more than 35 square blocks of the neighborhood at a time when one of the wealthiest black communities in the United States was then known as the Black Wall Street in that area of Greenwood. Approximately 10,000 black folks were left homeless. Estimates of up to 300 people were killed.

• 23:15Speaker 01

  Neither insurance companies nor the city paid for those who lost lives, homes and businesses. And here's my reference to my early comments. In 2024, the last two known survivors of that massacre lost a court case, I believe it was the Supreme Court of Oklahoma, in which they had asked for, and they used the word reparations. I remember talking about that now, but I want to give you an update, which is hopeful and interesting. On June 1, 2025, which was the 104th anniversary of the massacre, the first black mayor of

• 23:56Speaker 01

  Tulsa announced creation of a $100 million trust. The plan calls for 60 million to go to improving buildings and revitalizing the city's Greenwood area. But, and there's a big but here, the money has not yet been collected. And importantly, at least to my knowledge, the money has not yet been, the city hasn't made no commitment to contribute, nor has the city taken any compensatory action since that incident over 100 years ago. I find it interesting, the mayor has not used the word reparations in this latest action. That word is incendiary and maybe even inappropriate when given that, the series of prior legal court cases.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  I don't think you want to smell like reparations. And importantly now, again, I think probably response to those court cases, no money is to be given to individuals. My guess is that the, that some substantial nonprofits are going to stand up and do the right thing. But wouldn't it be appropriate if the city itself at least put a small chunk of change out there in its own budget for this exercise? And no talk of that by the mayor, though. I suspect the subject remains explosive in, under the surface in Tulsa. I would also guess that the New York State Commission on the Study of Reparations, which

• 25:24Speaker 01

  I mentioned four or five months ago, or three or four months ago, is having been created in our own home state. I imagine that study is, that study organization is going to take a look at what's just gone on in, in Tulsa with the creation of this, this, what do you call it? This not giveaway, but this fund, whatever I called it before.

• 25:44Speaker 00

  Well, it's not.

• 25:46Speaker 01

  Well, one final thing. And then I think this commission in New York State will also take a look at something called Seneca Village and that history. And that was a black community in Central Park that was taken away by, demolished and taken away by eminent domains to help with the creation. I'm not suggesting there's any similarity there, any precise similarity, but I think it's an interesting predecessor and that occurred in the 1850s of how land was taken away mostly from blacks, but not all from blacks during that eminent domain process. And in case you're wondering where that village was, I pass it every once in a while when

• 26:27Speaker 01

  I walk in Central Park, never have really understood how to take in the landscape there in that context. But for that definition, for the location, it was on the west side, pretty much on, between 7th and, well, between 8th, I guess, between Central Park West and 7th Avenue. And they used, and it was, yeah, that's about it, between 82nd or 85th and 89th Street. Anyway, that's about it. Just something to think about. If you've never read about Seneca Village, I think it's worth just Googling it and getting a sense of how it fits into Central Park.

• 27:03Speaker 00

  Well, just to clarify, Stu, so in Tulsa, they're not calling it reparations. What are they calling it?

• 27:10Speaker 01

  Oh, a path to repair. I understand. It's just a word.

• 27:16Speaker 00

  In the case of that scenario.

• 27:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:18Speaker 00

  Reparations are justified, right? To some degree?

• 27:21Speaker 01

  I think some, well, you, you could argue there was eminent domain. They were paid an amount of, oh, I'm sorry, you're talking about Tulsa.

• 27:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:28Speaker 01

  Nothing was paid and something should have been done.

• 27:30Speaker 00

  There was a.

• 27:31Speaker 01

  All these hundred years.

• 27:32Speaker 00

  There was an intentional destruction.

• 27:35Speaker 01

  Destruction and murder.

• 27:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. So that I could see. And, and on that note, I also am entitled to reparations because liberals have tried to take away my people's holiday. Christopher Columbus, 13 of my people were slaughtered in one of the worst mass lynchings in America in New Orleans. And I don't care about Kamala Harris and all those other pieces of garbage in the Democrat Party. We have been characterized and discriminated against throughout history of America. My family did not land on Plymouth Rock. It landed on us and I have had enough of liberal overlooking and discrimination against my people.

• 28:18Speaker 00

  It's so important that we have a woman president or a black president. What we really need is an Italian American president, and I don't mean Handy Andy Cuomo, because our people are ones of culture and ingenuity, not to mention good food. And you don't have to go to Harlem to get it and get yourself killed. I'm sorry. I digressed a little, Stu.

• 28:40Speaker 01

  Just a.

• 28:40Speaker 00

  But every time I get an opportunity to point out the suffering that I, as an Italian American, have gone through.

• 28:47Speaker 01

  Oh, you are so hurt and damaged.

• 28:49Speaker 00

  Get me a tissue. Tears are streaming. And speaking of tears, Stu.

• 28:54Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 28:55Speaker 00

  And a while ago, you did a little segment about beloved or Broadway actress and how she got into a dispute with the head, the cast, one of the cast members of Hell's Kitchen. And there was noise between roommates and blah, blah, blah. Well, this lovely woman is named Patty Lepone. She is well known on Broadway.

• 29:17Speaker 01

  An Italian woman.

• 29:19Speaker 00

  I'm sorry. Are you sure she's Italian?

• 29:24Speaker 01

  I just look at the name, that's.

• 29:25Speaker 00

  That sounds French to me. I don't think, I'm going to have to look this up after, but she's, I'm sorry, she's not one of mine. If anything, she's one of yours. She's probably Jewish. She's in Broadway. The, this lovely woman has been nominated for, in the past, like eight Tony Awards. She won three, one for Best Actress in Ida, Don't Cry For Me, Argentina, one of her, she also was nominated for Gypsy and won for Best Actress. And then recently in the show Company, she got Best Feature Actress. I actually saw Company. I was not impressed with her performance, but then again, you know, there were other people in the show I thought who were better than her and a lot of people didn't like

• 30:10Speaker 00

  the show because.

• 30:12Speaker 01

  I saw Patty Lepone nude. No, no, you're swaying.

• 30:19Speaker 01

  I think I'm right. This was, it was in the early seventies.

• 30:23Speaker 00

  So she probably didn't look so bad.

• 30:25Speaker 01

  I couldn't really see that much. She was back on stage. This was in a show in Saratoga. I can't recall what it was and, and that nudity was, you know, really quite something to do, quite out of, out of the order. Anyway, it was in Saratoga and I think it was Patty Lepone.

• 30:43Speaker 00

  Did it get you excited, Stu?

• 30:44Speaker 01

  No, I don't recall that at all.

• 30:46Speaker 00

  So no Woody.

• 30:48Speaker 01

  Uh-uh.

• 30:49Speaker 00

  All right. Well, Patty has emerged once again because she did a candid interview in The New Yorker and made a bunch of disparaging remarks about Glenn Close, Keisha Lewis, the Hell's Kitchen star, and Audra McDonald. She called Keisha a bitch because those two had gotten into a dispute and questioned her Broadway credentials, even though Lewis has a long career on Broadway and got a Tony Award in 2024 for her role in Hell's Kitchen, another show I've seen, and I didn't really love it, I'll be honest. She also dismissed McDonald, which I don't really get,

• 31:33Speaker 00

  and told her, said she wasn't really a friend. And also, she didn't diminish her credentials, or she's a singer. Basically said, basically saying how much she didn't like her, you know, which is gratuitous and unnecessary.

• 31:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:51Speaker 00

  And like, you know, she's not a big enough star to be this much of a diva, frankly. She's no Mariah Carey. She, there's more. So why is it?

• 32:01Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 32:02Speaker 00

  More, there's more, Stu. She also attacked Glenn Close, called her a bitch, because Patty had starred in the London version, I believe, of Sunset Boulevard, the first time around in the nineties, and Andrew Lloyd Webber fired her and replaced her. First Faye Dunaway, then Faye Dunaway got fired, and then put in Glenn Close, who made it to the Broadway performance, right? So there has been a long simmering feud over this, but it isn't really Glenn Close's fault that Patty got fired. And I think Patty also got a settlement from Andrew.

• 32:39Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 32:40Speaker 00

  Lloyd Webber, sir, Andrew, over this whole thing. But anyway, long and the short of it is, in response to this little vitriolic outburst, there were over 500 way people who signed an open letter condemning her, accusing her of being a bully and racial insensitivity. I don't agree with the racial insensitivity part. She's just an asshole, is the bottom line, who should be humble. She's been very successful. Why does she need to tear these other people down? Just because she doesn't like them? Keep your mouth shut.

• 33:15Speaker 01

  Fair enough.

• 33:15Speaker 00

  In response to this, Patty has apologized.

• 33:18Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 33:19Speaker 00

  And wrote like.

• 33:20Speaker 01

  A full apology?

• 33:21Speaker 00

  It was written in a letter. It made me, once again, Stu, the sincerity of it made me cry. The woman has a long reputation. She's like called out people in the audience who misbehave.

• 33:32Speaker 01

  Did she speak to those individuals individually to apologize?

• 33:36Speaker 00

  No, not that I'm aware of. I mean, I'm sure they wouldn't even take her call, particularly Keisha. And, you know, she seems to me like someone who is a very bitter person for someone who's been so successful. I don't really understand it and why she, there's a difference between being a diva and being an asshole. And she hasn't really have a right to be either, frankly. She, as I said, she's no Mariah Carey. She's no Beyonce.

• 34:04Speaker 01

  No, but she was a fine, is, was a fine actress.

• 34:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, but she diminishes everything with this behavior.

• 34:10Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, I agree. That's kind of sad.

• 34:13Speaker 00

  It is kind of sad, and I hope she is not doing ketamine with Elon Musk, which might explain her behavior. There's something really off about this woman. On that note, Stu, I will conclude by saying Patty, you're a bitch. And I never really like you that much anyway.

• 34:31Speaker 01

  Well, that's so uplifting.

• 34:34Speaker 00

  And you're uplifting talking about some Israeli hostage who gets shot in the Tulsa massacre? Well, I guess the upshot is they're going to get some kind of restoration or some pay.

• 34:46Speaker 01

  But who knows? I think it's an interesting twist.

• 34:49Speaker 00

  Part of that story is no one's giving me reparations, Stu. Someone's got to pay for me. Someone's got to pay for my clothing, my dinners out, my vacations, and all the rest, and my spa treatments, as we guys.

• 35:03Speaker 01

  Oh, God. Oh, God.

• 35:06Speaker 00

  It's outrageous. And I will always and never, ever, although now Columbus Day has been recognized once again by one of Trump's executive orders. So even though he doesn't have the legal authority to declare a national holiday, but he renamed it Columbus Day. And I think in order to not name it Columbus Day, the libtards would actually have to go through Congress, and they probably never will. So instead, they have people like Kamala Harris condemning Christopher Columbus in the most ignorant, moronic way, which explains why she lost to a moron like Donald Trump.

• 35:42Speaker 01

  I have nothing more.

• 35:43Speaker 00

  Was that a rant, Stu?

• 35:44Speaker 01

  Sure it was. It was, yes.

• 35:46Speaker 00

  I, I, I disagree. I think it was a very reasoned discourse. But on that note, we're going to conclude this episode, and you will have to wait. This will come out Sunday. Well, you'll know that on Sunday when you're listening. And I would like some commentary on our website to increase our traffic. For those who are going to listen to our bon mots, you should at least.

• 36:09Speaker 01

  Bon mot.

• 36:10Speaker 00

  Bon mot. Excuse me. You're so French.

• 36:13Speaker 01

  No, I just remember a little.

• 36:15Speaker 00

  Thank you, because I took French, but I hated it. So, and who devil liked the French anyway? They surrendered in two seconds to Hitler. But anyway.

• 36:25Speaker 01

  It's another story.

• 36:26Speaker 00

  It is another story. So please leave comments, and we will return for another podcast, and it will be on June 22nd after a week hiatus. So you'll have to go without us. I know we're like heroin, and you might go through withdrawal, but you'll just have to live with that. Okay? So here, that's the end of this, Stu.

• 36:46Speaker 01

  Bye.