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Raging Moderates: The Trump Administration Can’t Get Their Iran War Story Straight

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway

Hosted by Scott Galloway

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This episode of Raging Moderates features Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov discussing the US-Iran war, 11 days in. They examine the Trump administration's shifting messaging—Trump calling the conflict "very complete" while simultaneously ramping up military action—and the narrowing of stated objectives by Secretary Rubio to destroying missiles, launchers, and the navy, with no mention of regime change or the nuclear program. Galloway argues the biggest strategic loss is the erosion of Gulf state goodwill, as the IRGC's projectiles into Gulf nations and the disruption of the Straits of Hormuz are pushing those countries back toward Iran. Tarlov notes that 1,000 to 1,300 Iranians have been killed, 42 major vessels destroyed, and that the new Supreme Leader is the 56-year-old son of the one removed. They also discuss the asymmetric warfare problem (Tomahawks costing millions versus Shahed drones at $20,000), the dismissal of Ukrainian drone-defense technology in August, and polling showing 64% of Americans disapprove of Trump's handling while opposition to boots on the ground is bipartisan.

  • The biggest strategic loss from the Iran war is the erosion of Gulf state goodwill, as the disruption of the Straits of Hormuz is pushing those countries back toward Iran. 6:27
  • Oil prices dropped from a high of $112 to approximately $83, down 12% in a single day, suggesting markets expect the conflict to wind down sooner rather than later. 16:54
  • The asymmetric warfare cost ratio is stark: Tomahawk missiles cost millions while Shahed drones cost $20,000, making the conflict economically unsustainable for the US. 25:53
  • Polls show 64% of Americans disapprove of Trump's handling of Iran, with 86% of Democrats and 61% of independents opposing military action, though opposition to boots on the ground is bipartisan. 23:48
  • In August, Ukrainians presented a PowerPoint to the US offering battle-proven technology for downing Iranian drones, which was dismissed, and the administration now has regret. 24:50

Highlights

  • 3:44

    Trump's Contradictory War Framinginsight

    At a press conference, Trump says the war is both "very complete" and "the beginning of building a new country," claiming Iran has no navy, air force, radar, or leadership, while also saying "we're gonna go further."

  • 5:07

    Rubio Narrows the Stated Goalsinsight

    Tarlov points out that Rubio's stated mission—destroying missiles, launchers, factories, and the navy—omits regime change, the nuclear program, and proxy forces, suggesting the original goals were unachievable.

  • 6:27

    Gulf Alliance as the Real Prizestrategy

    Galloway argues the biggest potential win was forming a stronger informal alliance between the US, Israel, and moderate Gulf nations, and that the disruption of the Straits of Hormuz is eroding that goodwill daily.

  • 16:54

    Oil Prices Signal Market Expectationsdata

    Oil dropped from a high of $112 to about $83, down 12% in one day. Galloway says the markets, which are unemotional and absorb millions of data points, seem to be saying the Straits of Hormuz will open sooner rather than later.

  • 20:01

    Cooperation as Geopolitical Strategystrategy

    Galloway argues the most successful geopolitical action is where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts through cooperation, and that the Trump administration's attempt to take on the other two-thirds of world GDP alone is contrary to basic strategy.

  • 24:50

    Ukraine's Dismissed Drone-Defense Pitchstory

    Tarlov recounts how in August, Ukrainians presented a PowerPoint offering battle-proven technology for downing Iranian drones, which the US dismissed. Now the administration has had to call them for help, and there is regret within the administration.

  • 25:53

    The Asymmetric Cost Problemdata

    Galloway and Tarlov highlight that Tomahawk missiles cost millions while Shahed drones cost $20,000, making the economic math of the conflict deeply unfavorable for the US.

About this episode

As the war in Iran roils on, with devastating effects on the oil markets, what is Trump’s plan to get the U. S. out of another regional quagmire? Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov discuss the latest developments on the war in Iran from the administration — including a befuddling announcement from Trump, startling messaging from Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, and a foreboding sense from Secretary of State Marco Rubio that Cuba is next. Plus — Scott explains why the markets seem to have rebounded from yesterday’s oil price spike, and Jessica unpacks why Trump’s refusal to provide strong support for Ukraine in its war with Russia may have already hurt the U. S. in Iran. Follow Jessica Tarlov, @JessicaTarlov Follow Prof G, @profgalloway Follow Raging Moderates, @RagingModeratesPodSubscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@RagingModerates Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Topics

  • Iran War
  • US Foreign Policy
  • Gulf State Relations
  • Asymmetric Warfare
  • Oil Markets
  • Military Strategy
  • Trump Administration
  • Bipartisan Politics

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