Pod Insights Pop Culture Happy Hour The Devil Wears Prada 2 and What’s Making Us Happy About this episode The Devil Wears Prada 2 reunites Anne Hathaway, Meryl Streep, Emily Blunt and Stanley Tucci 20 years after the beloved original film. The sequel finds Andy as a mid-career reporter who gets an unexpected opportunity to lead the features department at Runway and working for Miranda Priestly, the worst boss she ever had. But does the sequel capture the magic of the original film?
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0:19 Linda Holmes? The Devil Wears Prada, while beloved and rewatched, might not seem like a movie that needed a sequel. And for 20 years, it went without one. But now Anne Hathaway, Meryl Streep, Emily Blunt, and Stanley Tucci all return to their roles in The Devil Wears Prada 2. The film finds Andy right where she never thought she would be again, working for Miranda Priestly, the worst boss she ever had. I'm Linda Holmes. Joining me today on NPR's Pop Culture Happy Hour is Ronald Young Jr. He's the host of the film and television review podcast, Leaving the Theater. Hello, Ronald.
0:51 Speaker 02 Hello, Linda.
0:52 Linda Holmes? Hello. Also with us is NPR music reporter Isabella Gomez Sarmiento. Hello, Isabella.
0:58 Speaker 03 Hello. Thank you for having me.
1:00 Linda Holmes? Oh, of course. The Devil Wears Prada was based somewhat loosely on a novel by Lauren Weisberger. And it starred Anne Hathaway as Andy Sacks, a young woman who wants to be a serious magazine writer, but lands a job as the second assistant to the imperious, nasty, impossible-to-please Miranda Priestly, played by Meryl Streep. Miranda is the editor of Runway, a high-end fashion magazine. Stanley Tucci played Nigel, Miranda's unappreciated second-in-command. And Emily Blunt played Emily, Miranda's miserable first assistant. In the original movie, Andy ended up leaving Runway, but The Devil Wears Prada 2 finds her as a mid-career, laid-off reporter who gets an unexpected opportunity to lead the features department at Runway.
1:43 Linda Holmes? This puts her back in Miranda's orbit and Nigel's, and, as it turns out, Emily's as well.
1:49 Speaker 04 It's really remarkable, a senior editor at Runway.
1:53 Linda Holmes? You.
1:54 Speaker 04 Yep. We're all so thrilled. You know what's funny is you've changed. You have. You're much more confident. Kept those eyebrows, though, didn't you?
2:04 Linda Holmes? Runway is in trouble for a few reasons, not the least of which is that it seems to be at the mercy of a publishing industry nepo baby played by BJ Novak. This puts Andy in the perhaps unexpected position of being on the same side as Miranda, sort of, and on the side of the magazine and journalism and maybe beauty. Like the original film, the sequel is directed by David Frankel and has a screenplay from Aline Brash McKenna. The Devil Wears Prada 2 is in theaters now. Ronald, I'm gonna start with you. How'd you like it?
2:34 Speaker 02 I loved it.
2:35 Linda Holmes? Oh, great.
2:35 Speaker 02 I was surprised, especially now in 2026. When you see a sequel, you expect that they are just going to lean heavily on nostalgia and, hey, don't you remember how much you liked this? Don't you remember how much you liked this? And this movie has a little bit of that, but it's all baked into the actual characters themselves. You have the same director, you have the same writer, and you have four powerhouse actors, four people who are really good at acting and seem attached to these characters. And they put them in a scenario that is relevant and makes sense, and then just continued their stories forward from there. So for me, that's all I really needed. I did have some issues. I have like two main issues, which I'm sure we'll get into. But other than
3:17 Speaker 02 that, in terms of me watching it and leaving, there were probably halfway through, I was just like, do I like this movie better than the original? No, that's wild. I would never like this more than the original. But I definitely liked it a lot. So I think it was a good sequel and a good template for what sequels should be.
3:33 Linda Holmes? That's great. I am so glad to hear how much you liked it. Isabella, how about you? How did you like it?
3:38 Speaker 03 Yeah, I totally agree with Ronald. I was raised during the Hot Girls Are Journalists rom-coms of the early 2000s. And of all of those, you know, Thirteen Going on Thirty, How to Lose a Guy in Ten Days, The Devil Wears Prada was my favorite, and I think by far the best because it's less focused on the romance than it is on the actual career and the work.
3:55 Linda Holmes? Yeah, it's not even really a rom-com, I would argue.
3:57 Speaker 03 It's not. Yeah, I agree. I don't think it's really a rom-com. I was very scared about the prospect of a sequel because to me, the first is just so perfect. And in general, I'm just opposed to like the sequel reboot era of pop culture that we're in right now. I think 99% of the time, they're not necessary. However, I do think this one, A, added interesting things to a movie about journalists.
4:18 Speaker 02 Yes.
4:19 Speaker 03 And about the current state of the industry and about the current state of tech. I also think that they stayed very true to the characters in a way that oftentimes reboots or sequels do not. Like, I think the Sex and the City reboot sort of fell into this pitfall of changing the characters that people knew and loved. I think this movie helped the characters grow while they still felt true to the characters that we fell in love with 20 years ago.
4:40 Speaker 02 Yes.
4:41 Linda Holmes? Interesting. I definitely did not like it as much as you guys did. My feeling was, I enjoyed it while I watched it and I will never think about it ever again in my life. And it doesn't feel to me like a real movie. It feels to me like something you would do for like a charity event or a Super Bowl commercial. Like, I enjoyed seeing these people play these characters again. I enjoyed seeing them with each other again. But I think the story is extraordinarily thin. And I think the first like hour of the movie is mostly what I would consider shenanigans. And it's just kind of Andy going back into
5:21 Linda Holmes? the office and she's lingering outside Miranda's office. And later in the film, they start to pull on a couple of threads that I think are substantially more interesting, one of which is Miranda's deep grief about the sense that her identity, which is tied up in her work, is going away as a result of the way that her industry is collapsing. I think that's very interesting. They spend, I think, only kind of a couple of moments on it, unfortunately. The other is the way that mid-career professionals here, that would be Emily and Andy, find themselves kind of haunted by scars from bad experiences with
6:02 Linda Holmes? old jobs and old bosses. I think the only thing I would really disagree with is I do not think that this is the same Miranda from the first movie. And, you know, the Miranda of the first movie was very different from the Miranda of the book. The Miranda of the book does not get the sort of soft redemption of the end of the movie where it turns out she's like, she's not that bad. She like smiles and she helps Andy get a job and none of that is in the book. So they soften her one step for the first movie. I felt like in this movie, she lost almost all of her edge and becomes very, much more broadly comic as opposed to dryly comic, which I felt like she was in the first one. I think
6:46 Linda Holmes? with a street performance in the first movie is Absolute dry ice. It is dry as a bone and it is ice cold. This to me felt a little hammy-er. There's a little more face pulling. There's a little more doing funny things like you know they're funny and I did not respond as well to that. So I really missed the Miranda of the first movie. But with that said, I enjoyed watching it. I like these actors. It doesn't really feel to me like a real movie, but I didn't have a terrible time.
7:17 Speaker 02 I feel like in terms of Miranda, there's a lot to say between 2006 and 2026 in terms of our relationship with a character like Miranda, who at the time really didn't exist in front of media, especially not as a woman. Whereas we've had 20 years of all of kind of our relationships, whether it be with women behaving like men or things that we would accept from men coming from the mouths of women that are somehow critiqued in this very specific way. We've had a long journey of that until now. So I feel like when you walk into a movie like this, we have the benefit of knowing that this exists already, even though in a lot of ways Miranda Priestly is the tip of the spear for this, especially in media.
8:00 Speaker 02 I felt like she was the same, especially when she's in meetings and they're having people that are kind of reeling her in. In accordance with like all of the ways in which you're not supposed to behave poorly. They're kind of dinging her on every one of those lines that she's saying, which I really enjoyed. For me, it probably feels like it's more broadly comedic because we're expecting it in a way that we were not expecting it in 2006, for me personally, because I really didn't see a difference between her character then and now.
8:26 Speaker 05 Yes, Ashley, flag on the play. We don't need you this morning or ever. So pack up your things and HR will be in to see you shortly.
8:36 Speaker 02 She's older and it's been like, oh, now I gotta hang up my own coat. What's the world coming to? I felt like that part was, it felt like an accurate evolution of that character in 2026.
8:45 Speaker 03 I do think part of it is just how much our culture and like the things you can do at work have changed and how they tried to reflect that through the character of Miranda. But I do think, Linda, to your point, a lot of this movie was shenanigans. I felt like There were things that really hit home for me and yet they were mostly glossed over in favor of like a 20 minute montage of them wearing beautiful outfits, which obviously is kind of the point of a movie like The Devil Wears Prada.
9:09 Linda Holmes? Right, that's what this movie is.
9:10 Speaker 03 But I do think it was a bit excessive because I think the bones for like a pretty good story were there and it felt a little too long and it felt like the silliest parts of the movie were inflated over the parts of the movie that actually struck a chord for me, like on an emotional level.
9:25 Linda Holmes? I agree with that. As I said, I think it's later in the film when they're starting to get into more of the kind of melancholy that's built into this story. I became a little bit more intrigued by it as opposed to, I think you make a good point that some of the parts that I didn't really need to spend a lot of time with, you end up spending a lot of time with. You know, obviously, yes, the montage is whatever, but there are also a couple of party scenes that are basically just, look at all the people who are here doing cameos.
9:53 Speaker 03 Look at all the cameos.
9:54 Linda Holmes? It felt a little bit like the last season of The Bear where you felt like you were just looking at the, the list of all the people who wanted to do it and it felt a little excessive. You get a lot of that. There is a very rushed, very limited in impact, romantic sub subplot between Andy and this lovely contractor who's played by Patrick Bramall from Colin from Accounts, who is a gentleman I personally think is very sexy and charming. And I was a little bit bummed that you get so very little of that story. It's almost at a point where I'm like, if you're gonna show it that little, just don't show it. Like, just go without it. Because imagine how revolutionary it would have been to just say, Andy doesn't have a boyfriend. That's not her focus right now. She's not
10:39 Linda Holmes? really dating. She's worrying about the fact that she's been laid off and she has no job and she's trying to save her career. You've already got Miranda having her nice husband, Kenneth Branagh. I was disappointed in the treatment of that romance.
10:50 Speaker 03 I wish so badly that this movie didn't have a romantic subplot for Andy because I think a big lesson from the first one is sort of like, she's not focusing enough on the relationship. She's more focused on her job. That becomes a source of tension. And I think as time has passed, there's all this discourse about like, her boyfriend Nate and the first This movie was the actual villain, like let her have ambition. This is a movie about a woman who just has a really deep drive for meaningful work and for wanting to hustle. The romantic subplot to me felt both underdeveloped and rushed. There was also an interesting tension there that I wish they would have explored a little bit more, like one of my favorite lines of this whole movie comes in a conversation between the two of them, when Andy's just kind of expressing her frustration by capitalism
11:34 Speaker 03 and like conglomerates buying everything up and spitting it back out and sort of like touching the third rail a little bit, talking about how much our lives and the things that we love have changed as fewer and fewer companies buy up all of these different physical properties and cultural properties and make everything worse.
11:51 Linda Holmes? And make everything worse.
11:52 Speaker 03 However, it's like that tension between them just kind of fizzled out and I just wish that that, if we were gonna get that, I wish we had dug deeper into that aspect of the relationship.
12:01 Linda Holmes? Ronald, how did you feel about romance subplot guy?
12:04 Speaker 02 I would have liked Andy to have been in a relationship that was just successful. I don't think that we needed the tension or don't have it at all. I agree with y'all because I feel like when you get to the story beat of the tension reaching its peak, it ends up being the exact same emotional beat from the first movie, which is I'm about to go on a trip overseas. Why don't we put this on hold until I get back, which is exactly what happens in the first movie. You just swap out Paris for Italy. So I feel like what's the purpose of having this except to just add more tension when there's already enough bits of layered tension in the job that she has working at runway? And then also to y'all's point, I agree with the not enough time spent and the emotional
12:48 Speaker 02 parts, especially of Miranda Priestly, because there's a confrontation between Miranda Priestly and another character, in which I think some things were said that I needed to be resolved because it seemed unfair for both of those character developments and in terms of like the development of this movie beyond the second iteration, because if it does well, let's face it, they're probably going to do a third. And then it makes me wonder, so what's the fate of these characters in the next film based on where we ended in this one? There's a lot of shenanigans. I enjoyed, but there's also the emotional beats that you have. Stay right there. That's good. These characters, that's expanding the depth of the movie. You had an opportunity to do that. And it feels like this movie doesn't exactly want to do that.
13:31 Linda Holmes? Yeah, Ronald, you said you had two beefs.
13:33 Speaker 02 That was both of them. We've covered both of them. The one was the relationship and the other was Miranda Priestly, her confrontation with this character.
13:41 Linda Holmes? Got it.
13:41 Speaker 02 That just, it really irked me because I felt like that could have landed in a different place. And then later I had to wonder whose side I'm on at that point, because at this point, I, I looked at Andy Sachs and I'm like, do you have a North Star? Is it really journalism? Is it really like, what are we talking about here?
13:57 Linda Holmes? I agree. I agree.
13:58 Speaker 03 To me, it still feels powerful, especially, I mean, our colleagues at It's Been a Minute just did a great episode about this fantasy of, you know, women being maintained right now and what that says about women's financial freedom and women's role in the workplace in 2026. And I think there's something bold and really incredible about having a major movie with major stars that's like focused on different tensions women have in the workplace. But it just, I just wish it would have gone a little bit further.
14:25 Linda Holmes? Yeah, I, I think I would have liked it a lot more if it had felt more like it was about that. You know, we talked about the cameos, but in addition to the things I would actually call cameos, there's just a tremendous number of people stuffed into this movie who do not have very much to do at all. Simone Ashley, who made such a strong impression in Bridgerton, is in it as Miranda's assistant. She has a couple of sort of funny things.
14:51 Speaker 04 Okay, got it. All right, come on, I'll show you to your office.
14:54 Speaker 06 Amari, I need to pee, please. I had a venti.
14:57 Speaker 04 Oh, was it worth it?
14:58 Speaker 06 No.
14:59 Linda Holmes? Caleb Heron, who is so funny and so charming and has a really limited appearance. Justin Theroux is doing this, to me, very odd performance as a, an over the top billionaire. Pauline Chalamet is in this for like, has a like a line.
15:16 Speaker 02 I feel like she had to have gotten cut.
15:17 Linda Holmes? Yeah, and I was just gonna say Conrad Rikamora, who's a really charming actor who was in Fire Island and has been in some other things, apparently was in this and got completely cut and.
15:30 Linda Holmes? You know, you've got very limited screen time with Lucy Liu. It just feels like there's way too much they tried to cram in here. And in some cases, it feels like it's not much, but that's fine. Like the, I think Kenneth Branagh kind of drifting in and out as Miranda's husband. I think he has an impact when he needs to. But some of these people, it's like, why are we bringing in Helen J. Shen, who was in maybe Happy Ending on Broadway and is really, really charming, but has a super small part as Andy's assistant, who is supposed to be the uncool, doesn't fit in assistant, just like Andy was. It's, there's supposed to be a parallel, I think, between them.
16:05 Speaker 04 I was an intern this morning, but when a desk opens up, the intern's got a chance to interview. And guess what? Nobody wanted to work in your department because it's not actual fashion. So I just like, got it. Isn't that cool?
16:15 Linda Holmes? She doesn't do very much. And I understand, you know, populating your movie with lots of fun actors, who I'm always happy to see is normally a positive thing. I was happy to see Tracey Toms, who plays Andy's best friend again, and did in 2006. Love to see that. Really like her. But it felt at some point like they were trying to cram in so much stuff that they kind of lost track of making the movie about something between these characters. Because what I admire about the original film is, yes, it's funny. Yes, it's got a lot of great clothes. Yes, it's got these sort of extremely early 2000s montages and all that. But like, there is a real story there about making friends with people and finding your way through a bad situation.
16:59 Linda Holmes? And what should you put up with and what should you not put up with? That has always had for me some emotional heft. And this, to me, did not have that.
17:09 Speaker 02 I think that there is an extent in which you season your movie with these types of little performances from known folks that is expected to raise the gravitas. Because the one person that did that was Kenneth Branagh. Because there's a couple of scenes in the movie in which Kenneth Branagh is obviously there to be someone who is strong and a supportive slash oppositional force to Miranda Priestly as her husband, which I really appreciated that. And I feel like when it's done well, then you Get a very good accomplished person doing something like that. And when it's done poorly, you get Pauline Chalamet saying one line and be like, hey, that's Pauline Chalamet. And then disappearing. And I feel like it ends up being crowded out in that way.
17:53 Speaker 02 So I feel like there's a difference between saying like, hey, we're going to season this with someone who does this well. Versus we've put nutmeg in this and it's all nutmeg now. It's just nothing but nutmeg. You can't taste anything.
18:04 Linda Holmes? Or we made a four hour movie and then we had to figure out how to make it into a two hour movie.
18:09 Speaker 02 Exactly, exactly.
18:10 Speaker 03 At a certain point, like, we don't need all of that. Let's focus on the fact that you have four incredible actors.
18:16 Linda Holmes? Right.
18:17 Speaker 03 Top build in this movie. We just don't need that.
18:19 Speaker 02 Like the Lucy Liu, the Kenneth Branagh, there's the bigger ones that didn't bother me as much as the smaller ones did. Cause I'm saying like to watch Caleb Heron get like three scenes.
18:28 Linda Holmes? Outrageous.
18:28 Speaker 02 I, at one point, I just thought, why, why? In a chair the whole time. They're like, they call me Charlie the Chair. And I'd be like, that's a fun visual gag, I guess.
18:37 Speaker 06 Everybody just calls me Charlie the Chair, if you want, because I'm already on my desk. Oh, no, it's okay. A million girls would kill for this job.
18:43 Speaker 02 There was a little part of me that's like, is this fat phobic? I'm not sure, but I won't mess with it. I'm like, is it?
18:49 Linda Holmes? Little bit. I think a little bit.
18:51 Speaker 02 But if you're gonna have Caleb Heron in the movie, like, let's get, bring the yuck yucks, man. What are we talking about here?
18:56 Linda Holmes? Yeah. I mean, I think you could have let him stand up.
18:58 Speaker 02 Yeah.
18:58 Linda Holmes? You know?
18:58 Speaker 02 Stand, please.
19:00 Speaker 03 That would have been a start, yes.
19:01 Linda Holmes? I think that would have been a start. Yeah. I, it feels to me like a Super Bowl commercial. But nevertheless, I did not have a bad time. And right now in life, if I go see something and I have a reasonably good time, even if I never think about it again, to some degree, that is.
19:18 Linda Holmes? So I guess that is sort of where I come down, but I think we, I think we all had a, a pretty good time at this. Up next, we are going to talk about what is making us happy this week.
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21:08 Linda Holmes? Now it's time for our favorite segment of this week and every week. What's making us happy this week? Ronald, I'm going to start with you. What is making you happy this week?
21:16 Speaker 02 The NBA playoffs are in full swing, and I love it. And the storylines that are unfolding right now for the non-sports watching folks, they are exciting and fun. There is an eight seed in the Orlando Magic that is currently beating a one seed in the Detroit Pistons. By the time you're hearing this, that series could be over already, and an eight seed could possibly- Have beaten a one seed, depending on when you're listening, which is a very exciting prospect and rarely happens in the NBA. LeBron James is playing basketball with his son. He threw an assist to his son in the playoffs. That has never happened before. It is possible that we can see LeBron James playing more playoff basketball in the weeks
22:01 Speaker 02 to come, and I am so excited. I'm a kid in a candy store. It is making me giddy every night. I pull a blanket up to my chin by myself on my couch and I just go from game to game and I'm having a great time. And I know everyone's not a sports person, but just NBA basketball is one of my favorite things. It just reminds me of nostalgia of my childhood. And right now, the playoffs are very interesting for folks who have checked out of basketball and you want to come back. Now is a great time to come on back to watch the NBA playoffs, which are happening right now.
22:30 Linda Holmes? Love it. Absolutely love it. Thank you very much, Ronald. Isabella, what is making you happy this week?
22:35 Speaker 03 Well, mine is not as current. We're coming out of a pretty tough winter in New York City and my winter get through it remedy was a serious rewatch of Mad Men. I have just reached season six. I think about getting on my couch and putting on Mad Men all day long. It's just such an incredible show. I hadn't watched it since it went off air. I just got to season six, which is when things really start to go off the rails for Don Draper. It's amazing to watch. It's better than I remembered it. And my fun fact is that in the original, The Devil Wears Prada, one of Andy's friends is played by Rich Sommer, who plays Harry Crane on Mad Men. So, you know, it's full circle for me.
23:08 Linda Holmes? That is true. That is very true.
23:09 Speaker 02 What would be an unserious rewatch of Mad Men? You said you're doing a serious rewatch.
23:13 Speaker 03 Well, I think like over the years, sometimes I'll like sit in on a season or something, but I was like, okay, I'm going to plug in beginning to end. I'm locked in. I'm locked in on Don Draper.
23:22 Speaker 02 I love it.
23:22 Linda Holmes? I like that show too. Never not recommending rewatching Mad Men, which all of the seasons of Mad Men are streaming on HBO Max, so you can find it over there. Thank you very much, Isabella. What is making me happy this week is the novel "Yester Year" by Caro Claire Burke is about what you would consider a trad wife influencer. She has several kids, lives on a farm with her husband, does tutorials about making bread on YouTube, all that kind of stuff. One day, she wakes up, actually in 1855, living in very harsh circumstances. Part of this is a satirical story about how this woman who has been vocally against feminism and modernity reacts when kind of the full force of what
24:06 Linda Holmes? doing without those things would mean for her is brought to bear on her own life. Part of it is a retelling that happens in flashbacks of how she became this influencer in the first place. And then part of it, obviously, is this mystery element about what's going on and why she has undergone this radical change of lifestyle. Also, another crossover with The Devil Wears Prada, Anne Hathaway has already secured the rights for this. I have heard intends to play the main character, and I will be fascinated to see where that comes out. But it is a really interesting book, "Yester Year" by Caro Claire Burke. And that is what is making me happy this week. That brings us to the end of our show. Ronald
24:49 Linda Holmes? Young Jr., Isabella Gomez Sarmiento, thank you so much for being here.
24:53 Speaker 02 Thanks for having me.
24:54 Linda Holmes? Thanks, y'all. This episode is produced by Liz Metzger, Hufsa Fathama, and Mike Katzif, and edited by our showrunner, Jessica Reedy. Hello, Come In provides our theme music. Thank you for listening to Pop Culture Happy Hour from NPR. I'm Linda Holmes, and we'll see you all next week.
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