Pod Insights The Pomp Podcast #915 Benyamin On Becoming A 13 Year Old Crypto Millionaire About this episode Benyamin is a 13 year old who has made 7 figures selling NFTs.. you read that right. In this conversation, we talk about his NFT project "Weird Whales", Benyamin's other business opportunities, and he gives us an update at the NFT market. ======================= Since 2018 Copper has been at the forefront of institutional digital asset development. From award winning custody solutions, to creating the first truly off-exchange settlement function, Copper pioneers technology, products, and services, in lock-step with a rapidly changing world. No other infrastructure provider covers as many assets, across as many exchanges, with the speed and security that Copper can offer. To learn how Copper helps the world’s largest institutional investors secure their digital assets, head over to copper.co Copper - the unfair advantage. ======================= Compass Mining is the world's first online marketplace for bitcoin mining hardware and hosting. Compass was founded with the goal of making it easy for everyone to mine bitcoin. Visit http://compassmining.io to start mining bitcoin today! ======================= Bullish is a powerful new digital asset exchange built for institutions that delivers the innovations of DeFi in a regulated environment. The Bullish Hybrid Order Book pairs the high-performance of a traditional Central Limit Order Book with automated market making. Powered by deep Bullish Liquidity Pools, backed by the multi-billion dollar Bullish Treasury. So, you can trade with certainty and at scale across variable market conditions. Learn more at Bullish.com or follow @Bullish on Twitter. Because the future belongs to the bullish. *Not investment advice. Digital assets and cryptocurrencies are high risk products. Consult your professional advisor before dealing in them. Bullish’s services are available in select locations only and not to U. S persons. Visit https://bullish.com/legal for important information and risk warnings =======================
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0:02 Anthony Pompliano? What's up everyone, this is Anthony Pompliano. Most of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to the Pomp Podcast, simply the best podcast out there. Now let's kick this thing off. Today's episode is with a 12-year-old. No, seriously. His name's Benjamin. I'm not telling you his last name to protect his real identity, but he's the founder of Weird Whales. And in this conversation, we talk about how a 12-year-old went out and made millions of dollars in the NFT space. He gives us an update on Weird Whales and also tells us about what's going on in the NFT world. I always enjoy talking to Benjamin, and I hope that you guys enjoy this episode as well. Before we get into it, though, I first want to talk about our sponsors. Today's episode is brought to you by Copper. Since 2018, Copper has been at the forefront of institutional digital asset development. From
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3:05 Speaker 01 Anthony Pompliano runs Pomp Investments. All views of him and the guests on his podcast are solely their opinions and do not reflect the opinions of Pomp Investments. You should not treat any opinion expressed by Pomp or his guests as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy, but only as an expression of his personal opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only.
3:28 Anthony Pompliano? Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, back by popular demand, our favorite 12-year-old in the entire world, Benjamin. Benjamin, how are you?
3:37 Speaker 02 Hi, I'm doing great. How are you?
3:39 Anthony Pompliano? I'm doing fantastic. Uh, I have a couple of questions. Are you still 12 years old?
3:45 Speaker 02 13 now.
3:46 Anthony Pompliano? Woo! You're getting older, man. All right, 13 years old, that means we just up our expectations of what you're gonna do in the world. Uh, give us an update. Last time we talked, you had launched Weird Whales and you had made a couple hundred thousand dollars in doing so. I have heard through the internet that things have gotten much, much better. What's going on with Weird Whales?
4:12 Speaker 02 So a little status on Weird Well. So the project is now traded around 2,000 ETH, which is over $5 million. And the mind blowing thing is that it only cost me around $300 to build using open soft software.
4:31 Anthony Pompliano? Are you out here flexing? Are you flexing on people saying it only spent $300 and you had $5 million of trading in Weird Whales?
4:41 Speaker 03 Yes.
4:44 Anthony Pompliano? All right. And so when you think of it, why, why are you still working on this? Like, like, what are you learning? Why is this interesting to you?
4:51 Speaker 02 NFTs are just, we're only at the start of a 10 year revolution. That 99% of NFT use cases are waiting to be discovered. So it might seem completely out of this world that monkey JPEGs are selling for millions of dollars, but the real use cases will come in five to 10 years from now. And I'm here with NFTs to stay.
5:15 Anthony Pompliano? All right. And I know that you're working on a whole bunch of different stuff. And now, like, I feel like you're kind of like me, right? Like, you started trying to do something, it started to work, you put some more effort in, it worked a little bit more. Then you're like, all right, this might really work. Now you got $5 million of trading volume, you're probably the richest 13 year old in the entire world, the whole nine yards. And so now you started to think about like, well, what else can I do? Before we talk about that, did you take a run at naming your school after yourself? Do you remember the last time we talked? Have you looked into that at all?
5:46 Speaker 02 Oh, I have had shower thoughts about it, but I haven't really gone ahead with it.
5:52 Anthony Pompliano? You had shower thoughts about naming the school after yourself?
5:56 Speaker 02 Yes.
5:57 Anthony Pompliano? Well, you should just do it. You should do it. How much would it cost? You should, you should go talk to the principal and say, hey, I'd like to make a donation to the school. How much would I have to donate in order to change the name of the school? And then once you get that number, DM me on Twitter and we'll figure out, maybe we'll, we'll chip in a whole $3 to alongside your 250 grand to rename the school.
6:16 Speaker 03 If we give him 300, he might turn it to 5 million in trading.
6:19 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah, or we'll invest $300 and you give us 5 million back.
6:24 Speaker 02 Yeah, I'd love to do that. But the surprising thing is that school fees are basically the amount of money I made last year.
6:34 Anthony Pompliano? All right. Talk to me about these non-fungible films. What is that? I know that's something that you're like, you're super interested in.
6:41 Speaker 02 Yes. So I'm working on a few projects right now and I'll talk about two of them. One is non-fungible films and it's changing the way consumers engage with entertainment and it's just disrupting Hollywood. We have a licensing agreement with two collections. One is NFT Heroes, which is another NFT collection I worked on with a designer from Marvel and 80 Board Apes to create an animated series. And this week, we also announced our board and included two former studio heads from companies like CBS and Xbox and also the head of a fund which has raised millions from A16Z.
7:26 Speaker 02 And I think, yeah, we're minting our mint pass on April the 25th and there's lots of stuff happening over.
7:33 Anthony Pompliano? All right, all right. Hold on, hold on. Back up for a second. So a non-fungible film, you basically went and you signed licensing deals with some Board Apes. You signed some licensing deals with these other collections. You literally built a board of intelligent adults who now work for you, basically. And you're going to create films using the IEP from these collections?
7:55 Speaker 02 Yes. So I'm a Web 3 advisor on that project and it was started, I didn't start up the project originally. It was started up by a Hollywood actor, Cameron Mullen.
8:06 Anthony Pompliano? Got it.
8:07 Speaker 02 And, yeah.
8:08 Anthony Pompliano? And so when you think of that, when you think of that, the idea is the final product's going to be a movie using the intellectual property from these collections?
8:15 Speaker 02 Yes. So we aim to do movies, TV series, branch out into gaming.
8:21 Anthony Pompliano? I got it. Okay. And then talk to me about this, this second idea, this like fintech, working fintech.
8:27 Speaker 02 Yes. So I'm also working on working fintech and it's a corporate sponsorship scheme. So I'm working with Ying Chow, who's the former head of digital at Barclays Bank. And the overall aim is to sell NFTs to corporate clients and then use that money to educate young people about Web 3 and fintech and then shift them off to high paying jobs in the crypto space.
8:55 Anthony Pompliano? Bro, did you hear what he just said? He's gonna take NFTs, he's gonna go to the corporations and he's gonna say, I'm 13 years old, I want to sell you an NFT. And the corporations will be like, oh, we have to do good in the world. Okay, how much is it? It's gonna be some astronomical price. He's gonna sell it to the corporations. He calls it a corporate sponsorship scheme. So you immediately know that he's scheming and then he's gonna take that money and he could pocket it, which all of us will be like, wow, you duped the corporations. But instead, they're gonna take it and they're gonna help these young people by help fund a whole bunch of different things to launch careers in the crypto sphere. And so literally he's-
9:34 Speaker 03 Like Robin Hood.
9:35 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah, he's literally-
9:36 Speaker 03 Modern day.
9:36 Anthony Pompliano? He's raiding the corporate coffers and leaving them a little, instead of a candy on the pillow at the hotel, he's leaving them an NFT. He's taking the money, he's gonna go help young kids start. Look at his face, he's like, that's exactly what I'm doing.
9:48 Speaker 02 Yeah, we already have some big names on board.
9:53 Anthony Pompliano? Can you, don't tell me any of the names, I feel like you're not allowed to say any of the names yet, or are you?
9:57 Speaker 02 I can't say anything yet.
9:58 Anthony Pompliano? Alright, that's fine. Alright, now, all this is like, pretty crazy, right? So you launch your NFT project, you've done $5 million in volume, you're doing the film as an advisor, you've got the scheme to, uh, to separate corporations from their cash, the whole thing. And then, he's 13, he went and he spoke at Oxford and he was the youngest speaker in almost a thousand years at Oxford.
10:23 Speaker 03 To me, that's ever. A thousand years, I just say that's ever.
10:27 Anthony Pompliano? What did you talk about at Oxford?
10:29 Speaker 02 I talked about my art journey in the crypto and NFT space and it was an amazing experience. The audience was really receptive.
10:38 Anthony Pompliano? Were they like, hey, can I get a job? Were they asking you to come work for you?
10:42 Speaker 02 Well, maybe I had some in my DMs after, but-
10:47 Speaker 03 My DMs after.
10:49 Anthony Pompliano? Can you imagine? You worked your ass off your entire life, you get all the way to Oxford and then you literally go to a speech and afterwards you're like, damn, I'm about to DM a 13-year-old for a job.
11:04 Anthony Pompliano? That's a testament to you, right? That literally age doesn't matter. We talked about this last time. Like, age does not matter. As long as you can provide value to the world, you can do anything, right?
11:13 Speaker 02 Yes.
11:14 Anthony Pompliano? All right. Then, after Oxford, you know, that wasn't enough. In 900, 1,000 years, he's the youngest speaker ever. You went to NFC Summit in London. What, uh, what was that?
11:26 Speaker 02 Yes, so it was in Lisbon, actually, and it was my first conference. And it was an amazing experience. I also talked about my art journey in the NFT space there as well. And I was the youngest speaker there as well, surprisingly.
11:45 Anthony Pompliano? Joe, John, what questions you guys got? Is this what you want to do when you get older? Like, what was your plan beforehand? I, I assume that maybe at some point, you thought about what you would want to do when you get older. And, and NFTs, uh, obviously haven't been around for, for 13 years or so long. How has that changed? And is this what you want to do now?
12:03 Speaker 02 So I, I'm just interested in programming. I've been programming since the age of five. My dad would often come home, bring out his laptop and start coding. And he realized that we were curious, so he started teaching us. And that led me to the NFT space. And I absolutely love NFTs, and I definitely want to stick close to NFTs and crypto in the long term.
12:28 Anthony Pompliano? John, what questions you got?
12:29 Speaker 03 Benjamin, can you help me understand, um, the utility NFT stuff makes sense to me? Can you understand all this hype around the bored apes and all these like cultural NFTs?
12:39 Speaker 02 Yeah, so I've thought about this. And with art, it's always about the artist or the story behind the art. So there was a painting called "The Bridge" by Robert Reiman, and it sold for around $20 million. And it was just a blank, white canvas. And it's easy to say, oh, I could just do that. But it was the artist and the story behind painting a blank, white canvas that attracted the buyers. And this is similar to NFT art as well. Most artworks get sold because of the story behind the art or the artist. With the bored apes, the story was there were all these crypto whales. They had lots of their time on their hands and lots of money.
13:22 Speaker 02 And buying into a bored ape would help you connect with other crypto whales and give you access to events and it's membership club. And that's why most people buy into these collections.
13:33 Anthony Pompliano? So tell me about the NFT market in general. You guys want a little surprise? Yeah, let's hear it. Little surprise Benjamin and I been, we've been cooking in the kitchen. We've been cooking, we've been cooking up some stuff. Yeah, we have been scheming ourselves. We're gonna separate you two from the show. No, I'm just joking. What we're gonna do is, we're gonna bring him on like every other week or so, and he's gonna give us just an update on like what the hell is going on here. So what is going on in the NFT world right now? I don't spend any time on NFT, so you're gonna be my expert.
14:03 Speaker 02 NFTs are still booming and it's still very, very early. So on today's show, I want to look at three statistics from OpenSea, which is the largest NFT platform. The first one is dollar sales volume. Second one is NFT sold. And then I'll finish on active traders.
14:21 Anthony Pompliano? Alright.
14:21 Speaker 02 So I'll have a look at dollar sales volume first. OpenSea sales volume in March 2022 was $2.5 billion. Yes, billion, not million. And back last year in March 2021, it was $150 million. So it's done a 15x in one year. And surprisingly, March 2022 is actually quite low compared to January 2022. The OpenSea sales volume in January was $5 billion, double the sales volume in March. And January 2022 was the highest ever sales volume OpenSea has ever seen.
15:04 Anthony Pompliano? That's wild.
15:06 Speaker 02 Yeah.
15:07 Anthony Pompliano? He's like, yeah, that is real wild. Alright, what's the next one?
15:12 Speaker 02 So I'll have a look at NFT sold now.
15:14 Anthony Pompliano? Alright.
15:14 Speaker 02 The amount of NFT sold in March was 1.8 million.
15:19 Anthony Pompliano? In March of 20, in March of 2021?
15:22 Speaker 02 2022.
15:23 Anthony Pompliano? Okay.
15:24 Speaker 02 And that was quite low compared to January, which was 2.5 million. And that was the highest amount of NFTs ever sold on OpenSea. And January was the first time OpenSea did more than 2.5 million sales.
15:38 Anthony Pompliano? Got it. So if we think about this, in March of 2021, there's 150 million in sales. By a year later, March 2022, there was 2.5 billion. But even though there was that massive increase, there was still 2.5 million sales in January of 2022, but by March, it's down to 1.8. So even though it's going down, there's still this massive growth year over year.
16:01 Speaker 02 Yes.
16:02 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
16:04 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's really crazy.
16:06 Anthony Pompliano? All right, what's the last one?
16:08 Speaker 02 Active traders is the last one. So in March 2022, there were 450,000 active traders. And that's nothing. Compare that to the 20 million traders using Robinhoods or the hundreds of millions of Marvel and Disney fans. NFTs is, we're still early days.
16:30 Anthony Pompliano? So 450,000 active traders uh in the month of March. And if you compare that to, you know, Coinbase or whatever, uh it's still a very small number.
16:41 Speaker 02 Yes.
16:42 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah, it's pretty crazy. What, what, what's going on with your friends? Any of your friends into this stuff?
16:46 Speaker 02 Not really. They don't really talk about it much, but congratulated me at the time.
16:51 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah, no, they, they want to tell everyone that they know you probably.
16:55 Speaker 02 Yeah.
16:56 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah. What, what about your brother? How old's your brother?
16:59 Speaker 02 My brother's one year older than me, so he's 14.
17:01 Anthony Pompliano? What's he doing?
17:03 Speaker 02 Yeah, so we're both devs, we're both programmers. We've both been coding from a very young age. I think I was five and he was six when we started coding. And he's just as good developer as me, if not better. And in the long term, I want to do an infrastructure business with my brother, which is where the real opportunities are at.
17:25 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah, I'm already an investor in that one. Remember I told you I'm in?
17:30 Anthony Pompliano? Are you gonna do it?
17:31 Speaker 02 Well, I'm not gonna focus too much on a business ideas. If you try to think of one, you always think of rubbish ones. I'm just gonna keep on learning, keep on programming, and hopefully a problem will come to me that I can solve.
17:42 Anthony Pompliano? All right. When you find the problem, then you're gonna call me, right?
17:46 Speaker 02 Yes.
17:46 Anthony Pompliano? Cause you know, you know why I want to invest?
17:49 Speaker 02 Why?
17:50 Anthony Pompliano? One, I want you to be successful, right? I think it would be cool and, and uh life-changing for you and, and your brother, all that. But two, is I want to go tell all my friends, I backed a 13-year-old, we took over the world, y'all stupid.
18:05 Anthony Pompliano? Right? I feel like there's a lot of things that go into building a company that if you're 13, you actually have an advantage over older people. Like you could call up any CEO and say, hey, I'm 13, I have my own business. I'd like to come meet with you to talk about, you know, A, B, C, D thing. And there's a lot of CEOs be like, what? Like, yeah, let's go set up the meeting, right? And they would take it because they would want to meet you just as much as you want to meet them.
18:32 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's the age is a really big thing. That's what caught all the headlines that I was in and all the media coverage I got.
18:40 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah. How much money you made on this stuff now? Are you allowed to say?
18:43 Speaker 02 Well, so I've made money from originally selling out on weird wells and then working on other NFT collections. I've also made money, but most of my money's come from that, the fact that Ethereum's price is going up rapidly. Well, it was going up rapidly. And I'm probably, if I sold all my NFTs at the high end, sold all my crypto at a good price, I'd probably be sitting on around $1 million.
19:12 Anthony Pompliano? Damn. So you're a millionaire. You're a 13 year old millionaire.
19:18 Speaker 02 Yeah.
19:18 Anthony Pompliano? You're inspiration to all of all the other 13 year olds. And also your teachers at school probably like, damn, this kid got more cash than me. How do I do it? Have any of them asked you? Have any of them asked you what they should do?
19:30 Speaker 02 Yeah. So I think I was waiting in the car park at the end of the day to get picked up. And one of my teachers just told me that they invested, I think, some money and have already made 50, like 500 pounds. They were absolutely mind blown.
19:47 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah. And then you were like, that's chump change kid. Right? You're like, you're like, now the tables have turned, teacher.
19:55 Speaker 03 Benjamin, what did you do when you figured out you were worth a million dollars?
19:59 Speaker 02 So I haven't really been gone like flexing everyone on Twitter. I just want to stay humble and keep on learning.
20:08 Anthony Pompliano? I like that. Somebody, somebody in the chat said, Benjamin stole your girl.
20:15 Anthony Pompliano? All right, buddy. Anything else that you got for us?
20:19 Speaker 02 Yes, so the last section I want to talk about is three stories in the NFT space that caught my attention.
20:26 Anthony Pompliano? Please, tell me the three stories.
20:29 Speaker 02 But before I go into that, I want to just share a bit of alpha with you all today.
20:37 Anthony Pompliano? You go alpha leak on them? You go alpha leak on the audience?
20:42 Speaker 02 Yes.
20:42 Anthony Pompliano? Damn, you gonna be the favorite guest. There's nobody else that comes on here that's gonna give these guys some alpha. Go ahead. What's the alpha?
20:48 Speaker 02 Okay, prepare to be mind blown.
20:51 Speaker 02 So if you bought a bored ape for $200 and then collected all the subsequent airdrops like the dogs and the mutant apes and the recent ape coin token, you would be sitting on a return of over half a million dollars. And that's at the low end. Don't forget that some of these rare apes are sold for millions of dollars. And that probably makes bored apes the best investment in history.
21:18 Anthony Pompliano? So basically, the idea is if you bought the actual asset itself, then you got airdropped everything else. And that led to a huge financial gain for the people who had held it. And then also there was appreciation of the ape itself.
21:33 Speaker 02 Yes.
21:35 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah, that's pretty crazy. I feel like people don't understand the airdrops. What do you think about airdrops?
21:41 Speaker 02 Yeah, I think airdrops are good. Free money. Free money is always good. But...
21:46 Anthony Pompliano? That's what the socialists say, too.
21:50 Speaker 02 The thing is, the holders of these apes were not only airdropped money, but also knowledge and senses. Getting these new tokens, the ape coin token, the new NFTs, they taught people in a way about ERC20s and ERC721s and different contracts. So that was also another side to it.
22:11 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah, it's pretty crazy how you get...
22:16 Anthony Pompliano? The airdrops, but also can you stake NFTs? Are people doing that yet?
22:21 Speaker 02 Yeah, some collections you can stake.
22:23 Anthony Pompliano? You stake it? And then what about like fractional components of it? The people have done that?
22:29 Speaker 02 Yes, so I think there is one company that specializes in fractionalizing your NFTs. So you can have one NFT, split it into 40 different NFTs and sell that off to different people.
22:41 Anthony Pompliano? And then lastly, is are people lending against them yet?
22:45 Speaker 02 There must be some people that are lending against it, but I haven't heard of anyone.
22:50 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah, definitely somebody's got to be got to be lending against it, right? There's no way that people have millions of dollars worth of NFTs and they're not trying to get
23:02 Anthony Pompliano? some kind of loan using it as collateral. I'd imagine, right, John?
23:06 Speaker 03 Yeah.
23:06 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah, I think so, too.
23:08 Speaker 03 The fractional ownership stuff's cool.
23:10 Anthony Pompliano? You like that?
23:10 Speaker 03 Well, they do it in assets today, right? Traditional assets today, right? Trading cards, jerseys, sporting goods, memorabilia, anything, right? Fractional ownership in a rare thing.
23:22 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah, I agree. The somebody in the chat said if anyone here loses money, then they can tell their lawyer that they lost money taking financial advice from a 13 year old.
23:32 Speaker 03 Yeah, this is this isn't financial advice.
23:34 Anthony Pompliano? No financial.
23:35 Speaker 03 I said in the chat very specifically, nothing we say is financial advice.
23:38 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah, well, we actually don't have advice at all.
23:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
23:40 Anthony Pompliano? We just like to have fun on the internet. Benjamin, what what time is it there?
23:44 Speaker 02 5:20.
23:45 Anthony Pompliano? 5:20. So so we do this at like noon every other week. We're gonna be good is after school.
23:51 Speaker 02 Yes.
23:52 Anthony Pompliano? All right, perfect.
23:53 Speaker 02 I finish school at, I think, 4 o'clock.
23:56 Anthony Pompliano? At 4 o'clock, yeah. The well, you got to tell you got to tell the teachers, hey, I gotta, I gotta go. I gotta get out of here. I gotta go on the best business show and then get them on the watch, right? And then they'll be sitting there and they'll be teaching you about things during the day. And then at 5 o'clock, you'll be teaching them things about how to make money. I'm shocked that more teachers don't ask you.
24:17 Speaker 02 Well, yeah, they, they don't really talk about it much.
24:23 Anthony Pompliano? Well, if I, if I was a 45 year old teacher and a 13 year old had a million bucks, it was in my class, I probably wouldn't talk about it either.
24:29 Speaker 03 You walk in the teacher's conference room and they're like, he did what?
24:34 Anthony Pompliano? They probably want to know how to make money too. That's what I'm saying. I'm, I'm shocked that more, especially the younger teachers, aren't asking him how to do it, or what they should think about, or, you know, can you explain NFTs to the class?
24:46 Speaker 03 I'm surprised no one gave you money and was like, hey, can you turn this into more money, please?
24:51 Speaker 03 You want the teachers to convince them to start a fund? I'm surprised no one tried to convince them to take it.
24:57 Anthony Pompliano? I don't know. Did, have you told your classmates about NFTs?
25:00 Speaker 02 Well, they, as I said before, they didn't talk about it much, but at the time they did ask me, oh, what is this? And then I would explain it and then they were like, uh, uh, okay. But I don't think they understood it.
25:13 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah. Well, and also I guess part of it too is, uh, they gotta have interest from like a technical standpoint. That makes sense. All right. Listen, I'm super excited. I feel, uh, I don't know why, but I feel proud of you. Like I feel like you've done a great job and you continue to kind of push forward. You're still learning. You're doing a lot of different stuff. You and your brother are, are enjoying it. Are you doing this with, uh, your, your dad and your mom and everything? They, they're excited about this too?
25:41 Speaker 02 Yeah, they're also excited. My dad's gonna keep on teaching me and we're gonna keep on doing our coding challenges and my mom's gonna keep on supporting me.
25:51 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah. Your dad gives you coding challenges?
25:54 Speaker 02 Yeah. So there's a website online called Code Wars and every day we do one coding challenge on that website.
26:02 Anthony Pompliano? Oh, wow. And, uh, who's better, you or your brother?
26:05 Speaker 02 Well, we've had this debate before and I think kind of, we kind of settled it that we're both as good as each other.
26:13 Anthony Pompliano? Uh, yeah, that sounds like a cop out answer. Yeah. Well, my brother, these, you know, these are my brothers, right? And there's two more. So there's five of us total. If we ever had a debate about who was better at coding, we would have punched each other.
26:27 Anthony Pompliano? Don't do that. Don't hit your brother. That's bad. Your parents will be mad. Don't, uh, don't do that. Uh, I'd still beat John's butt, though.
26:33 Speaker 03 Everyone would just say they're the best.
26:35 Anthony Pompliano? Yeah, of course. Well, I am the best, so I would be telling the truth. You guys would be lying. All right, Benjamin. Listen, thank you so much for coming on. I'm super excited. We're gonna be doing this, uh, every other week or so. And, uh, you know, the audience, when you said you had Alpha to leak, they got super excited. So maybe we'll, uh, we'll come back with some more, uh, some more ideas, uh, when you come back next time. Do you mute yourself?
26:58 Speaker 02 Yeah.
26:58 Anthony Pompliano? Oh, there you go. All right, buddy. Sounds good. See you later.
27:02 Speaker 03 See you, Benjamin.
27:02 Speaker 02 See you later. Bye.
27:04 Anthony Pompliano? Thanks so much for listening to today's episode. I really hope you guys enjoyed this one. Make sure you subscribed on Apple, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player. And if you're looking to try to transition to get a new job in the Bitcoin or crypto industry, we've got you covered. Head over to pompscryptocourse.com. We've developed a curriculum with the top teams across the industry. It's a three-week intensive training program with over 50 events packed into that three-week time period. Go to pompscryptocourse.com to learn more, and I'll meet you guys for the next episode.
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