White House COVID Bombshell & Nancy Mace's Daisy Dukes Fight | PBD Podcast | Ep. 579

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick dive into JP Morgan’s explosive take on the U. S.-China trade war showdown, Nancy Mace’s fiery clash with a guy wearing daisy dukes, JD Vance’s jaw-dropping meeting with Modi in India, and Gavin Newsom squirming under scorching heat for LA’s chaotic 2028 Olympics prep. ------ 🥤THE VT YETI COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4iHfe8Q 👕 THE LATEST VT MERCH: ⁠https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l⁠ https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:56Speaker 02

  Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm surprised I could take sleep with thirty. I know this life's meant for me.

• 1:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, what's your plan? The future looks bright.

• 1:08Speaker 04

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right here.

• 1:13Speaker 02

  You are a one of one. I send you right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, gang. Hope you had a good weekend. Episode 579. We got a different voice here today. Me and Tom have a very unique voice here today. You'll hear it when Tom starts speaking as well. This is when, when Tom's voice gets like this, he doesn't spend a lot of time at the office. He likes to go home and talk to. It's very white week. He likes to go to Kim and talk dirty to her. Maybe not a, you know, something we want to talk about publicly, but it is what it is. That's right. Got it. Anyways, a lot of crazy stories, okay, that we need to go through. You know, we have, um, let me see which one I want to go through this. But by the way, I've got a couple of clips. We got to play that clip of the twins in Australia that you were talking about, right?

• 1:59Speaker 05

  Probably one of the funniest things.

• 2:00Patrick Bet-David?

  That's gone viral.

• 2:01Speaker 05

  Gone viral.

• 2:02Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll play, we'll play that and, and see if anybody, maybe you and Adam can recite it or Tom and Adam. I don't know. White House pushes lab leak theory on. New covid website Congresswoman's profane supermarket argument with constituent caught on camera is this is this with what's her name Rob who's that with the clip?

• 2:21Speaker 05

  Nancy Mace.

• 2:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Nancy Mace that's right she crushed it by the way she just.

• 2:24Speaker 05

  And something else happened to her yesterday at a town hall that I have and you're gonna die laughing.

• 2:28Patrick Bet-David?

  She needs full security.

• 2:29Speaker 05

  Security yeah more comedy coming.

• 2:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump studying if removal Powell is an option has it said Trump's administration demands Harvard disclose foreign funding escalating feud this is not looking pretty right now so they said they're gonna defund them Harvard came back suing them Trump's coming back asking this it almost seemed like Harvard's about to get in trouble if they keep going back and forth like this and next thing you know new intel comes out the rest could be history for Harvard Harvard could be in a troubling place if we find out what they're really doing behind closed doors three ex presidents denounced the current one in a two week stretch so obviously they're on the same page with what they got going on Conor McGregor blasts mass migration as a genocide in Ireland I got a couple clips

• 3:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to show you about that which is kinda weird why US men think college isn't worth it anymore okay JP Morgan details exactly how it thinks Trump's trade war will play out and what investors should do that's probably gonna be the first story we'll go through Ben Affleck came out and said some things about California he's not accustomed I'm not used to hearing Ben trash California but when you get to a point that Ben is not happy with California you are doing a lot of things wrong and the next story goes to Gavin Newsom catching heat again as LA's 2028 Olympics in peril and faces criticism after granting clemency to 25 criminals and we'll get into that Trump says mineral deal with Ukraine

• 3:57Patrick Bet-David?

  to be signed next Thursday JD Vance this morning talked about how the trade deal with Modi and India is getting closer I think you shared that with us this morning Justin Bieber in bad shape Shannon Sharpe has just gotta make a decision to change the types of women he's I mean the kinda text messages he was getting was was. I don't know if we'll even cover it or not. It's a crazy story. Trump's administration irate at Harvard. Plans to pull additional billion dollar in funding. That's a Wall Street Journal story. GOP leader asks Attorney General Pam Bondi to prosecute Andrew Cuomo. Interesting. Dem judge in New Mexico steps down after man would allege a trend that aguaties found in his home.

• 4:39Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, did you see Kilmar's wife being asked by Michael Strahan? Hey, what happened in 2021? Is it true that in 2021 you called the cops? Did you see this clip? I have not. Oh, you have to see this clip. That's his wife? That's his wife. And yeah, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about that. And the tattoo. Are you, you know, the tattoo that is, what that means? Yes. Yeah, okay. We'll cover that as well. Interesting. Anthony Fauci, fortune doubled to $15 million between 2009 and 2023. Odd. Watch dogs finds during worst of COVID lockdown. This guy's a great investor, or maybe something was going on. We don't know about.

• 5:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Zuckerberg reportedly cozied up to Trump so he could settle his FTC lawsuit for $450 million instead of $30 billion. Tom's got some thoughts on that. I think Vinnie, you got some thoughts on that as well. Yep. Gen Z grads says their college degrees were a waste of time. That's one too many stories with college degrees being a waste of time. Oh, yeah. And money as AI infiltrates the workplace. Okay. So we'll cover those stories. I got a few other things that I want to show you guys as well. That I brought in. There's one thing I want to show that has to do with Gary Player. Talking about what Tiger Woods did. That prevented him from being the greatest of all time, that he could have had 20 or 22 masters. I just really like what he had to say.

• 5:59Patrick Bet-David?

  And there's a stat talking about man needs two nights a week with his guy friends. Why it's necessary to be two nights a week with his guy friends. Men need that. And we'll address that as well. Folks, last time we did this. When the Yetis came out last time, I had no idea what was gonna happen with the Yetis. I had no idea. When our team said, Pat, they're not gonna last like this, all of it was gone. Next thing you know, we were swamped by messages of, Pat, can we get additional Yetis to do collaboration with Value Tim and Future Looks Bright? The next one is here. Now, keep in mind, these will go very fast. Rob, if you want to play this clip, we got different ones. These are based on what many of you guys asked.

• 6:41Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the Future Looks Bright Yeti, whether it's a pink one, whether it's the red one, whether it's the Tiffany blue or the white. This seems to be, this one seems to be, it's sick. It's absolutely sick. Yeah, or even a smaller one that you got. And on top of this, Rob, if you can also go to the website, there are, I think it's 10 coolers that we got. Couple people asked for coolers.

• 7:04Speaker 05

  Only 10?

• 7:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I just got 10 of them. We're like, let's just see if there's a market for it.

• 7:07Speaker 05

  I guarantee you that they'll be gone before the end of the episode.

• 7:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, let's get 10 and let's see how it does. Look at that. Look how sick that is with Future Looks Bright right on top of it. So vtmerch.com, go place your order, be the first to get it because these things will go very quickly. Again, it is limited supply and they're absolutely sick. When you go to work and you have this Vitamint logo and a Future Looks Bright, it looks insane. Okay, again, go to vtmerch.com, place your order with the Yeti collaboration. All right, so let's get right into it. Tom, I'm gonna go right into business economy because right now, a lot of people are concerned with what's going on. Yesterday, the market had another, what is it, 2.5%, 3% correction, give or take whatever

• 7:49Patrick Bet-David?

  the number was. Here's JP Morgan Chase, details exactly how they think Trump's trade war will play out and what investors should do. Okay, so let's see what the story from Insider is saying in regards to Chase's predictions with Trump's tariffs. Okay.

• 8:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So JP Morgan Chase predicts Trump's tariffs will lead to some deals with trade partners with the effective tax rate rising to 10 to 20% compared to 2% earlier this year. The firm noted this represents a meaningful increase in imports duties but lands within Wall Street estimates pre-liberation day. Expecting economic growth to slow unemployment and inflation to rise, but the US to avoid a full recession. The bank recommends structured notes for investors stating they can simultaneously provide defensive exposure to stocks while delivering income through options premiums, upside, offering a strategy to navigate the tariff included market uncertainty.

• 8:54Patrick Bet-David?

  JP Morgan Chase advises incorporating hedge funds into diversified portfolios noting that volatility will allow hedge funds to exploit market mispricings and relative value play across asset classes. Tom?

• 9:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, Business Insider is covering JP Morgan and JP Morgan had a big letter that came out a week and a half ago. And one of the things that people noted in there is they seem to be having or trying to have like a calming effect on investors. Like they're saying, hey, we think the tax rate will be 10 to 20% of some of these tariffs compared to 2%, which is what we estimated pre-liberation day. So what they're trying to say, Vinnie, is hey, what we said before liberation day when the markets are going crazy and that was April 2nd, hey, it's happening. It's happening about that way. So they're trying to have a calming effect. And then what they're mentioning to people is, you know, structured notes. And I won't go into deep detail, Adam could probably talk about it too.

• 9:53Tom Ellsworth?

  But a structured note is basically an investment vehicle that allows you a little bit of downside protection and a little bit of upside protection and you get a little coupon in there. So what they're saying is there are other investment products that are designed for times when the markets and the financial instruments are volatile.

• 10:14Tom Ellsworth?

  And I felt like, Pat, that what Business Insider was covering, but they missed the headline. I think they blew the headline. It would be JP Morgan recommends calm and consider alternative investments as the tariff situation, trade war plays out, and we think it's going to land 10 to 20% tax on certain goods, which is what we said before Liberation Day. And I think they missed the headline because I think that's what JP Morgan is, that's exactly what they're saying here. And oh, by the way, call JP Morgan because we can help you buy some of these things. Operators are standing by.

• 10:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 10:51Adam Sosnick?

  I guess, you know, for those of us that support Trump, you know, many of us in this room, including myself, who voted for Trump, at what point are we going to sound the alarm and say, I don't know, is this actually working out? I think we all understand the need for tariffs. I think we all understand the need for taking on China. I think we all understand the need for not kicking the can down the road. But at the same time, when are we going to say, is this actually working? I think it's totally fair to ask questions. You know, this is the, Tom and I were talking about this earlier, the number one story in the Wall Street Journal was the following. The Dow is now headed for the worst April in 100 years as investors send a no confidence signal to the market.

• 11:34Adam Sosnick?

  Now, we all said brace for impact. We kind of have to have a short term, take a couple of steps back in order to take 10 steps forward. But the market is getting a little fearful, you know, as Warren Buffett always says, be fearful when people are greedy, be greedable when people are fearful. I'm still investing in the market and I'll always bet on America. But if you go to the Fear Greed Index, which we tend to take a look at on this show, right now, people are in extreme fear. So, you know, I don't want to be

• 12:05Adam Sosnick?

  This is not a joke, but on Liberation Day, April 2nd, like the only thing that's been liberated so far is trillions of dollars of wealth from the US stock market. And I don't want that, nor does anybody want that. But since then, since is the potentially the worst April in almost 100 years. The Dow is down, stocks are down, the S and P is down, the dollar is down, US treasuries and bonds are down. Consumer sentiment is down. Gold is up because that's obviously a store of value. The VIX is up because that's volatility index. And the fear and greed index is very fearful. So at what point do we say, look, Trump, we're rooting for you, bro. But hopefully this thing turns around very quickly.

• 12:43Speaker 05

  It's three months to, or like, and I get it, Adam, trust me, I'm with you 100%. But isn't this something that we have to go through as a nation because of how horrible everything, only 30 trillion, 37 trillion dollars in debt?

• 12:56Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 12:56Speaker 05

  Nobody respects the Trump.

• 12:57Adam Sosnick?

  Just answer this and then I'm gonna let you do your thing. The debt is obviously one thing, but the tariffs are totally other thing. I understand, you know, what Doja's doing, but if Trump, who is very mindful of his legacy and how

• 13:12Adam Sosnick?

  things are talked about in the news, even if he doesn't trust the mainstream media. This is the lowest S and P has ever been since inauguration for any president in 100 years. So this is not a good look for Trump. We're all rooting for this to turn around. But my simple question is, at what point do we sound the alarm bells and say, I don't know?

• 13:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you what I did yesterday. So for me, yesterday I looked into a couple of things. I went and looked into, and it's so funny, you were saying that, you were kind of headed in that direction. Rob, can you go pull up the following? What are the longest any trade deals took? Go on chat GPT and ask the question, what is the longest any trade deal took? Okay, if you pull it up, here's what you'll notice. I wanted to find out what's the longest.

• 14:01Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 14:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, the longest trade deals ever. Doha Development Round, WTO, 23 years. It's still going. EU Mercosur Agreement, that's EU, Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, 1999 to 2019. Okay? And it's still not ratified. Okay? Then you got TT, Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, 13 years. WTO General Agreement on Trade and Services, 10 years. Canada-EU, 8 years. And then I want to put the fastest, and here's what I found with the fastest. US-Jordan FTA, 4 months. This is in 2000.

• 14:43Patrick Bet-David?

  US-Australia FTA, Trade Agreement, fastest trade deals, 1 year. US-MCA, 1 and 1/2 years, that's US-Mexico-Canada, 2017 to 2018. US-Singapore, 2 years. So even the fourth fastest was 2 years.

• 15:01Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 15:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay? By the way, people who are watching this, they're shaking right now. You understand what I'm saying? They're kind of like, what are you talking about? It's gonna take this long to go through this? That's what you think is gonna take place? Well, if, if this is truly something that's a dramatic, dramatic change that we're gonna be making, you know, this is something we have to go through. So now, I then looked up to see what companies were taking a hit. Okay? And there's 2 different types of deals. Bilateral trade deals, 2 countries, it takes 1 to 5 years. Multilateral trade deals, 3 countries plus, takes 5 to 10 years. Okay?

• 15:44Patrick Bet-David?

  But in the China trade deal, there are a lot of companies right now in China that are taking a hit. Because to them, they're just shutting down. They're telling employees, "Go home, we have no work for you." And this is real, that's happening. Okay? And some parts of America as well, some places are shutting down, saying, "We don't have work for you, we can't afford to have work for you." So the pain is there as we're going through it, right? You're hearing some small business owners talk about, "You know, I financed my, you know, my mortgage, you know, I've taken money out of my mortgage to be able to do this and da-da-da-da-da, all the stuff that they're talking about." So the pain is definitely there. But the part that I like on what happened, Rob, if you want to pull this up, J.D. Vance Modi clip with India. If you can pull that up, I think Vinny sent it this morning.

• 16:29Speaker 05

  In the chat, Rob.

• 16:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, in the chat. So if you pull that up, what the president and the administration is doing, which is the right thing to do, is they're saying, "Look, you can take your time all you want. We're going to the one country that you probably don't want to see be the next China, which is India." Okay? And here's what just happened. This is how long ago, Rob? Was it this morning?

• 16:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, I think so.

• 16:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, April 22nd, 8:03 a.m. it was posted. Go for it. Watch this, folks.

• 16:58Adam Sosnick?

  As many of you are aware, both of our governments are hard at work on a trade agreement built on shared priorities, like creating new jobs, building durable supply chains, and achieving prosperity for our workers. In our meeting yesterday, Prime Minister Modi and I made very good progress on all of those points. And we are especially excited to formally announce that America and India have officially finalized the terms of reference for the trade negotiation. I think this is a vital step.

• 17:30Speaker 00

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• 17:56Speaker 01

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• 18:30Speaker 01

  I believe this-

• 18:31Speaker 05

  This is a vital step toward realizing President Trump's and Prime Minister Modi's vision. Because it sets a roadmap toward a final deal between our nations. As many of you are aware.

• 18:42Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. Tom, how important is this?

• 18:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Excuse me?

• 18:44Patrick Bet-David?

  How important is this?

• 18:45Tom Ellsworth?

  This is really important because I think what he's saying when he says the points of reference. Um, I think what he's saying is basically LOI. Here's a letter of intent. It's another contract, but it's a letter of intent. And inside the letter of intent says, okay, these are the five things. Um, that we're going to work through. So basically, that's a big deal. To say that we've read that, that, um, because you know, they get together, they stand in front of the flags and they say, "Boy, what a productive day. Nice to see you. Nice to see you as well. Do you like the gift? I love the gift. Thank you very much. Love the, love the beef jerky. Thank you so much. And thank you very much for the curry." And you know, they do that and it's kind of a, just a handshake and back and forth. This seemed, and you heard the people applauding, very specific. I talked to the Prime Minister. We've got points of reference.

• 19:30Tom Ellsworth?

  So it's, to me, it's like an LOI that says, "Hey, guys, we're around first base and we know exactly what we're going to be talking about and we know exactly where we're going to go." And when trade deals enter negotiation phases, usually what they do is they mutually pull the heat off each other. Like when two countries are at war, they say, "We're going to have a ceasefire and our guys and your guys are going to meet in Geneva, Switzerland, and we're going to talk about it." You know what I'm talking about? They have a little ceasefire? That's how usually international deals happen. So likewise, they usually turn down the heat on it. I think the market is probably going to like this today because the, the poor stock, stock market is bouncing like a yo-yo on sentiment.

• 20:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so I asked the question, how many, uh, how is this impacting? Rob, can you go to chat GPT, type in, "How were the tariffs impacting Chinese manufacturing?" Just type that in.

• 20:23Speaker 05

  Saying that back, I saw a tweet by Mario Nafalma, I'm looking for it right now on how we're talking about us, right? You're nailing, China is not doing well right now. Factories are closing, there's, it's hitting the fan over there as well. People think it's all good and that's a great point.

• 20:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So it says, Zhejiang province factory closure, okay? Uh, over 50% of export oriented factories in Zhejiang, a major manufacturing hub are expected to halt production temporarily following the imposition of 145% US tariffs. Many companies are extending their labor holidays indefinitely due to sharp decline in US orders. Okay, and then this continues, by the way, it's not getting any prettier.

• 21:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me see what this other region is, give me one second, let me see this one here.

• 21:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, many comes on the plastic manufacturing sector risk, Chinese plastic plants face potential shutdowns as tariffs have disrupted the imports. US ethane, a critical raw material for plastic production. The increased costs and supply chain disruptions have made operations unsustainable. US companies shifting production, David's Bridle reduced China's based production from over 50% to 30%, shifting operations to countries like Sri Lanka, Vietnam and India. So companies are moving away from China to places like Sri Lanka, Vietnam and India. And then Stanley's Black and Decker decreased reliance on China manufacturing from 40% to 15%

• 21:56Patrick Bet-David?

  over the past seven years, planning future reductions and reallocating productions to other parts of Asia and possibly Mexico. Now, keep in mind, we can talk like this and be like, oh my God, China's struggling, they're going through a hard time, they're gonna be, they're gonna have to do a deal, they're gonna have to, nobody knows, because in China, their media is saying US is getting destroyed. The Chinese media is saying US economy is in shambles. They don't know how they're gonna handle it, they need China. The same thing Americans are saying is the same thing the Chinese are saying about how the US economy is in shambles right now. Tom, thoughts?

• 22:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, and I'll tell you, the, the India thing, we talk about sentiment. The market opened one minute ago, it's 9:31, right?

• 22:36Tom Ellsworth?

  So S and P 500 up 55 Dow up 400 NASDAQ up 190, excuse me, 182 just moving right here live. So it's an early bounce. The day is young. There's a lot of things that happen in the market, but the market is jumping a bit on sentiment and you've got to believe that hearing about India is part of this because it calms the market. The market just wants to know everything's going to be okay and things are going to come down a little bit. And I think that, you know, the volatility that's out there right now, we have the volatility of words.

• 23:09Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean?

• 23:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, the volatility of words. Yeah, the volatility of words that go back and forth that causes the market to get a little, a little concerned. And then, you know, people are doing, making research and Wall Street Journal today, as Adam pointed out, saying, hey, this could be the worst April since the Great Depression. That's a fair headline based on historical facts, but those words make the market nervous. But trade deals, you know, are, are things that now go the other way and will calm, calm the market. But we need, we need more days like this morning.

• 23:42Adam Sosnick?

  Well, it's very hard to compete with China just because they cheat. Um, you know, China is the world's warehouse that makes everything and we've been shipping away manufacturing jobs for a few decades now. You know, how many times you look at any good you buy and it says made in China, made in China, made in China. You even see videos of like people trying to call Trump out for things in Trump MAGA world that are made in China. I don't know whether the validity of that, but they're like this factory of a billion plus people that just never sleeps. And it's very hard for smaller countries or even America to compete with these people when you have low costs, they're, they're cutting out competitors, undercutting competition.

• 24:26Adam Sosnick?

  The CCP is heavily subsidizing many of these industries, just like Trump did with some of the farmers in some industries here. They pay low wages, they have zero environmental regulation, they have low standards for the workplace. They don't give a shit if kids are working and chopping off fingers, they don't care. They don't care about their people, all they care about is keeping the CCP in power, which leads me to the final point. We covered this on the town hall, the live podcast we did the other day. Where you have Xi right now, where China was alienated just a short, six, 12 months ago. Now Xi's going on, what do they call it, like this charm offensive? Going around the world, hello, good to see you. Vinny said he wouldn't eat Chinese food for the next six to 12 months.

• 25:09Speaker 05

  I have, and I'm not.

• 25:10Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly. So, the guy on, whatever, there was like one of their foreign ministers, whatever it was, talking about-

• 25:16Speaker 05

  Talking trash, calling us peasants.

• 25:17Adam Sosnick?

  Calling us peasants.

• 25:18Speaker 05

  I would whip his ass.

• 25:19Adam Sosnick?

  So, China was alienated, now they're sort of back in the fold, they're kinda, they're kinda playing with a little house money right now. The bottom line is, it's gonna be very hard to decouple from China. It's not like we're just gonna cut off all our manufacturing, we have very cheap labor and cheap goods that came from China. I don't think these jobs are necessarily coming back to America. So, Trump needs to navigate this relationship with caution.

• 25:41Speaker 05

  But Americans, and this is the real question, are Americans willing to go through some pain to stop that shit? Because guess what, Adam, you nailed it. Kids' labor, like slave labor camps for kids to have cheaper phones. If you're really about people, you're really about America, and you care about the children, then we need to break off, and it's gonna hurt. And I'm just, I'm one of those Americans that's America first, and guess what? If I have to pay a little bit more not to deal with these you-know-whats, then so be it.

• 26:05Adam Sosnick?

  What I say all the time is, I believe the children are the future.

• 26:07Speaker 05

  I know.

• 26:08Adam Sosnick?

  You teach them well and let them lead the way.

• 26:10Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, when you're saying that, when you're saying that, okay, and we can say that.

• 26:17Patrick Bet-David?

  But there's a lot of people that can't, don't have that luxury.

• 26:19Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 26:20Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a lot of people that are four weeks away from shutting down their businesses. There's a lot of people that are two weeks away, six weeks away. They're very scared, there's a lot of scared people in America today, okay? And you know who the scared people are? Here's a crazy stat for you to be thinking about.

• 26:36Patrick Bet-David?

  In nineteen, I want to say forty, eighty-two percent of all jobs in America were created by small business owners, okay? And that's nineteen forties. About forty, uh, twenty years ago, it was fifty-five percent. Now it's forty-five percent. So, the number of jobs being created by small business owners is getting big, uh, less and less, and the more the jobs are being created by who? The government or the big companies? No, no, big companies. So, small business owners, now, companies with less than a hundred employees, it used to be eighty-two percent that would employ the American people, right? But now, we're relying on these behemoth companies. You need the small business owners to stick around. You need the, the small business owners to have a fighting chance.

• 27:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You need the small business owners that risk their savings, their 401K, their, they take some crazy risks to get a business going, just because they have a small dream, or maybe some of them have a big dream. So, we have to understand that it is very valid, the pain that they're going through, uh, a- and if you're a business owner out there, I, I feel your pain, that you're going through it, when you're in it, it absolutely sucks. There's nothing like it when you're going through it. It's so scary. Anxiety at night, fighting with your wife and kids, fighting with your husband, trying to take your kids out private school, can't pay fifteen hundred bucks, you're back three months, because you're trying to put the money into business. We're going through it. However, um, I'm still optimistic that they're gonna accelerate this process and get the negotiation going.

• 28:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm still optimistic. And I think if we are able to get India to scare the crap out of China a little bit, that can go away from you, this is good, okay? They need a little bit of good news. Now, let's go to the next thing here, minerals. Uh, Tom, I'm gonna come to you with this one here. Trump says minerals deal with Ukraine to be signed next Thursday. This is very, very important if they pull this off. Rob, is this it? Is this the clip? Go for it, buddy.

• 28:34Speaker 04

  Well, we have a minerals deal, which I guess is going to be signed on Thursday, Scott, next Thursday, soon. And I assume they're going to live up to the deal, so we'll see. But we have a deal on that. No, I have no comment on that. I have no idea. That's his statement, not mine.

• 28:52Patrick Bet-David?

  He doesn't seem too confident about it.

• 28:54Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 28:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let me read the rest, and Tom, I want to give it to you. So President Trump announced at the Oval Office that Prime Minister Giorgio Moloney that an 80-page minerals deal that you claim will be signed next Thursday, though Secretary Scott Besant clarified it would likely occur on April 26th, with the US reducing its repayment demands for Ukraine and its fight against Russia from 300 billion to 100 billion. Ukrainian President Zelensky, after meeting with Trump administration, said good progress has been made, and a memorandum of understanding could be signed at any moment, but Besant revealed Zelensky was supposed to sign that during his February visit, instead bypassing it for the big deal, which Zelensky refused, causing a televised Oval Office confrontation,

• 29:39Patrick Bet-David?

  which we've all seen that. Tom, go ahead.

• 29:40Tom Ellsworth?

  So there's the what, and there's the how. Here's the what. Rare earth minerals are important. Lithium, cobalt, things like that. They're in your phone, they're in the batteries for EVs, they're in batteries on your phone, as a matter of fact, and they are critically important, and they're called rare earth minerals because they're very rare. They're only in certain areas around the world. Just like gold is only in certain areas around the world, oil is only in certain areas around the world, so are these. That's the what. We need that to keep driving a technologically advanced economy, and we need lots of that. We need a supply of that. And when we were dependent on the Middle East for oil in the 70s and early 80s, that was bad. That's why drill, baby, drill, because we have oil.

• 30:24Tom Ellsworth?

  We have it. Well, for rare earth minerals, it's not dig, baby, dig, because we don't have them everywhere. And so we need partners. And recently, China has said, that as part of this trade war, that they are embargoing us and saying you don't get the rare earth minerals. This is exactly what Trump feared, and that's why, before everyone understood the how, why Trump was there at the Oval Office, back with Vance and Zelensky, when that whole thing happened, you know, going at each other there, and he then refused to sign the minerals deal, because Trump said, I got a great idea. I'll give you a little discount on what you owe me back, but then you can pay me in rare earth minerals that I need for my economy. The art of the deal, that was good, and that

• 31:09Tom Ellsworth?

  slipped. Well, now we need it even more, and it appears, there's no word of whether this was in there previously, but it appears that what's on the table now, and they call this a memorandum of understanding, um, MOU, that we're going to reduce what you owe from 300 to 100, and you're going to pay with the rare earth minerals. If we get it done, this is a good thing for the US economy to get access to the rare earth minerals.

• 31:34Patrick Bet-David?

  How much do you think, how much do you think Zelensky knows that the US desperately needs that minerals deal, and he's intentionally delaying it?

• 31:41Tom Ellsworth?

  I think he knows it a lot, and I think he's a player, and I don't think he really cares about his country. I think there's a lot of things going on.

• 31:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Why would he delay? Give me three reasons why he would delay it.

• 31:50Tom Ellsworth?

  He, because-

• 31:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it, one, one has given a middle finger to Trump. I get that. What else? What are two other-

• 31:56Tom Ellsworth?

  I think he wants more. I think he, I don't think he wants a discount. I think he wants cash, because that's always what he comes looking for. And they take the cash, they skim it, then they send some of it to, ironically, back to US companies, and they buy arms and stuff. And I think he wants cash. I think that's what it is. That's why he's manipulating it. I think he also looks over his shoulder and saying, "Yeah, and I noticed you don't have a deal with Greenland yet. You only have this negotiated, uh, detente with Greenland, where Greenland is slow-rolling China." Because remember, China's trying to get a deal with Greenland to dig rare earth in Greenland. So addition to their own rare earth, and to have their rare earth, they're trying to, China's trying to play

• 32:38Tom Ellsworth?

  the monopoly game and get all the yellows, because a set of yellows is rare earth minerals, which means they control any technology economies, because they control that supply. That's what's going on. And Greenland, you know, would be a big help. And haven't heard words about Greenland recently, because we've been trying to get that deal done. So I think Zelensky knows, I think he wants cash. He always wants a little more, always wants a little more, always wants a little more.

• 33:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you, let me ask you, who can help in this situation? Because Putin's also not helping, right? Putin's also not helping the fact that he's not wanting to come to the table. You know, i- i- i- it's almost like, uh, he- he's- he's trying to say, "Hey, Trump, mind your own business. I'm dealing with my kid here, Ukraine. This is none of your business. Leave it alone. I'll let you know when we want to do something. You don't dictate the terms." Is that kind of the vibe you get from Putin?

• 33:23Tom Ellsworth?

  That's the vibe I get, and there are two words that would, um, that the rest of the world would probably flip out at. But there's two words that Trump could utter to Putin to help move that forward. Crimea and Dornbus. And say, "Tell you what, we draw the new line, Crimea, Dornbus, we call off the war, we do all this." Do you see what I mean? And I think, remember, Russia feels that that is historically theirs. They feel that the creation of Ukraine stepped on their historical territory, and they've been upset about it for, you know, as long as Ukraine has been separate.

• 34:04Tom Ellsworth?

  And so, I think that's what Putin also has his desires, and it's territory and what he says is legitimate, you know, Russian historical soil.

• 34:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Does Ukraine have a deal with China at all? Rob, can you check that? Does Ukraine have a deal with China on minerals? Do they have a mineral deal? I don't think they need them, but let's just see if there's anything there.

• 34:29Tom Ellsworth?

  I haven't heard of one.

• 34:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Mr. China said exactly engage in Western nations, okay.

• 34:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, this is a pretzel, and this is really important. This is an important deal to get.

• 34:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know, Tom. I- I, they, um, they got a, they got a, there's too many different ways you can get good news for the economy, okay? So, new jobs report. All right, cool. Low unemployment. All right, great. Inflation. Okay, it's going down. Okay, hey, the stock market is doing well. All right, cool. You know, hey, cripples up. All right, cool. You know, eh, eh, we lowered our, uh, national debt. So, so far, none of those we have. Uh, we brokered a new trade deal. Okay, um, wha- wha- what else? What else can you say about that?

• 35:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, the trade deals in like India, like hey, we're progressing with India. You know, I changed my mind, we're gonna move interest rates down.

• 35:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, I changed my mind, Jerome Powell. Okay, taxes are going down, the new tax plan is ready, it's going down.

• 35:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Middle, especially for the middle class that already is, is maxed out on credit cards, so that they could actually spend a little bit.

• 35:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, sales spending, consumer confidence is up, right? What good news do they have right now?

• 35:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Right now?

• 35:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Right now. What good news do they have right now?

• 35:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Literally, J.D. Vance at the podium has been the best news that I've seen in about a week since the jobs report came out that showed February was pretty strong. That was like a hard, remember that? That was like a hard number victory, hey, pe- people are hiring, things are that. But since that, you know, we're looking, looking for not sentiment, but looking for signatures and numbers? That's what I'm waiting for, signatures and numbers.

• 36:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam?

• 36:23Adam Sosnick?

  So, what's the question, or do you want me to comment on what?

• 36:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Comment on, comment on what we just talked about.

• 36:26Tom Ellsworth?

  What would be good news for the economy?

• 36:28Patrick Bet-David?

  A war, a war.

• 36:29Adam Sosnick?

  For the economy, overall, I mean, everything's being disrupted right now, I was just, I sent this to Rob, you know, I'm a fan of this guy Fareed Zakaria, and he coined something called the post-American world. And how,

• 36:42Adam Sosnick?

  essentially whether it's Trump sort of being the disruptor, or whether it's the world sort of reacting and basically no longer necessarily relying on America, I could argue this is a good thing, I could argue that this is a bad thing, but, the, um, the basic premise is now that the Trump administration has basically had this revolution on foreign policy, you know, economic nationalism, basically freeing ourselves from all these trade agreements, World Health Organization tariffs, everything that he's doing, how every country is now gonna seek, uh, independence from their dependence that they've had on America for the last 70 years, whether that's through, um, protectionism, or, you know, economic, uh, advancements, or whether that's through literally us protecting them with our, with our troops, you know, bases all around the world.

• 37:27Adam Sosnick?

  But, you know, the, he, he, he, there's a part of this, I don't know if you can show this clip, Rob, or actually show the part of it, but... They singled out, at the very beginning, they talked about how there's the, I think, the Foreign Minister of Singapore, and basically they're pro-American, but they're also on Chinese side of the world, and they basically have to balance, there it is right here. He said basically, how America has changed from great liberator to great disruptor to now a landlord seeking rent. And, you know, that's sort of a jab at Trump, basically saying, "Time to pay up, it's payback time," which I understand. But now if you kind of go on this clip, the EU is now basically saying, "All right, what's gonna like, what's gonna..." The world is no, the US is no longer prepared to underwrite the global order. This makes for international environment far less orderly and predictable.

• 38:11Adam Sosnick?

  And there's probably one more quote that you can find from the EU, um, right here, if it's coming up right here, here it goes. Uh, this is from Germany's likely next chancellor, they say, "Freihrich Merz," he says, that's Tom's, uh, accent if you want to do it, Tom. "My absolute priority would be to strengthen Europe as quickly as possible so that step by step we can really achieve independence from the USA. I never thought of to say something like this, but after Donald Trump's statements, it is clear that the Americans, at least this part of the Americans, this administration, are largely indifferent to the fate of Europe." So, I'm actually okay with some of this, but I also understand why this is a great disruption. Because we can't be the world's policeman, we can't just take care of everybody.

• 38:55Adam Sosnick?

  Because if America, in my opinion, if America at this point was, if I could find an avatar for who America is, it'd be a rich, fat, bloated person like someone like JB Pritzker.

• 39:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Handing out cash to spoiled children.

• 39:11Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly. We're rich, we got everything going on, but we're also very fat and bloated, so something's gonna have to give.

• 39:17Tom Ellsworth?

  And indifferent to the fate of Europe? Let me translate that. "Willing to pay 70% of the cost of NATO." So, let's make sure we understand what some of these statements are.

• 39:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, this guy's a Democrat, it's not like he's gonna be a pro-Trump guy.

• 39:31Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 39:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Frederick Merz is a guy that's a Biden guy, he's not a Trump guy. So he's gonna make the, however, however, however, you're, you're right. The, the one thing to be thinking about is the following, very simple, okay? You're, you're in a room, you're, you're negotiating a contract with a carrier, okay? You got one guy here, you got one guy here.

• 39:54Patrick Bet-David?

  One of them has been a partner for you. The other one, you don't trust at all whatsoever. I remember one time I brought a guy who was doing annuity for me. I won't say the company's name, but it had to do with annuity marketing, but uh.

• 40:07Adam Sosnick?

  Are you saying annuity?

• 40:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Annuities, yeah.

• 40:09Adam Sosnick?

  I thought you said something else. I was getting a little turned on.

• 40:11Patrick Bet-David?

  What did I say?

• 40:12Adam Sosnick?

  They said nudie.

• 40:13Speaker 05

  They said annuity. I was like, Pat.

• 40:15Adam Sosnick?

  I'm like, hey.

• 40:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So, check this out. So this guy comes in and I told him, I said, look, we have one basic rule. When you talk to my agents, you're a wholesaler. You don't get to talk contract and commission and all that stuff. He said, we would never do that. That's a, that's a code in insurance. We'd never do that. At my event, he goes to one of my guys, gives a number, does a side deal with them. I went up to him. I told him, I said, you and I can never do business together for the rest of your life.

• 40:38Adam Sosnick?

  Lied to my face.

• 40:39Patrick Bet-David?

  That was in 2010. You know who we were in 2010? Nothing. You know how much leverage I had in 2010?

• 40:44Adam Sosnick?

  Very little.

• 40:45Patrick Bet-David?

  This much. You know what the guy said? Who the hell are you?

• 40:47Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 40:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you get what I'm saying? Like?

• 40:49Adam Sosnick?

  He called your bluff. He's like, don't tell me what to do.

• 40:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, who the hell are you, bro? You're a smaller company. Now, five years later, it's a different story. Now, it's not who the hell are you? Now, it's like, no, man, whatever you guys need, we gotta make you happy. So today, America is not who are you? America is still America.

• 41:05Adam Sosnick?

  Fully agree.

• 41:05Patrick Bet-David?

  And nobody trusts China. So to me, this is a messaging issue that I think everybody needs to be on the same messaging over and over and over and over and over and over to say, here's how China is as a partner. Hey, everybody in the EU, in the Middle East, this is how China negotiates. Just so you know, we saw them under COVID. We saw how they negotiate. They'll steal everything from you. They will never keep their commitment on their contract. They're not gonna do it. So that's, that, do you wanna partner with somebody like that? Or do you wanna partner with somebody like us? Who do you wanna partner up with? And that doesn't mean US is a perfect, like, we don't have any. Stuff that we bully and we challenge and we expect and all that other stuff. But that kind of comes with the territory when you got a good business.

• 41:50Adam Sosnick?

  Can I, can I tell you, I so much agree with you. Because what I've said so many times here is that Donald Trump is one of the most brilliant marketers we've ever had. But for some reason, when he's rolling out policies, he doesn't use his marketing skills as much as he should. Like, he should be basically explaining, guys, here's the plan. Here's what we're doing. You know, I've said this a million times, drain the swamp, lock her up, build the wall. All of these great three-word terms got him elected. So if you want to get a rate cut with Jerome Powell, cut that rate. If you want to deal with China, make China pay. It's so easy, but there's, there's so much uncertainty in the marketplace.

• 42:32Adam Sosnick?

  My one request for Trump is just be very clear on your messaging and America will be with you. There's so much uncertainty and you're adding to the chaos by not being clear. I think he could do better on the messaging.

• 42:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. We'll see, we'll see what's going to happen there. The reality of it is that we're still in the thick of things and it doesn't look like a deal is around the corner yet. Specifically with one country everybody's looking at, which is China.

• 43:01Tom Ellsworth?

  And all the markets love the Indian news today.

• 43:03Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 43:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Green, green, green.

• 43:05Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's go to the next one. Trump's studying if removing Powell is an option. Tom, is there anything new with this here of him removing Powell?

• 43:13Tom Ellsworth?

  No, it's just statements, you know, I'll remove you. And everybody goes, how? Trust me, I'll, I'll, I'll figure something out.

• 43:19Patrick Bet-David?

  But he can't do it.

• 43:21Tom Ellsworth?

  No, he can't do it. And I think, I think that's a little bit bluster, you know? I'm, I'm supporting the guy I voted for, but you know what? Powell says, I don't see the facts that would lead me to cut the rate. And I know you don't like that, but I don't see the facts. Inflation's out of control, people aren't being laid off. So I'm not going to cut the rate.

• 43:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Great, okay, so that one, we'll see, we'll see what happened there. Let me go to the next story here. White House pushes lab leak theory on new COVID website. Rob, if you want to get that clip ready. Vinny, I'm going to come to you with this one here. Uh, the new covid.gov website redirecting from covidtest.gov promotes the lab leak theory claiming COVID-19 claiming, this is Forbes magazine, the way they wrote it. Claiming COVID-19 emerged from a, an accidental leak at the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory. It draws from the Republican-led House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic Report. After action review of the COVID-19 pandemic, the lesson learned and a path forward.

• 44:22Patrick Bet-David?

  This contract with a, um, March 2020 National Nature Medicine, uh, Report, which states, "We do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible, supporting the Wuhan market origin." And then there's a bunch of other guys. The update said critiques of Biden's administration pandemic response stating vaccines undoubtedly saved millions of people's lives by diminishing likelihood, severe disease and death, but were exaggerated in effectiveness. It also claims masks mandate, social distancing and lockdowns caused more harm than good. Is this a clip, Rob?

• 44:57Speaker 02

  Uh, this is Anthony Fauci, the first time that he publicly denied that the COVID virus originated from the Wuhan lab and says it could have only come from nature.

• 45:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 45:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, please. I wanted to ask, um, Dr. Fauci, can you address these suggestions or concerns of

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• 46:22Speaker 05

  There was a study recently that we can make available to you where a group of highly qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences there and the sequences in bats as they evolve. And the mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human. That's just professional double talk. Oh my god. You know what I'm saying?

• 46:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Even an eighth grader now listens to that and the BS alarm goes off.

• 47:00Speaker 05

  You have to get... Isn't that crazy? Benny, what do you know about it? What's going on? And if you don't mind, because I'm going to kind of combine Cuomo and every... This is nice work by the White House, by the way. Oh yeah, well, basically, and again, who are we just talking about? Who's our biggest threat, Tom? Adversary, whatever we want to call them with trade? China, right? This is, again, China being able to do whatever the hell they want to do with zero accountability. So in my opinion, that when people say deep state and all these players inside to keep them shielded, that's what it is. And we already know about Joe Biden and his relationship with China and Hunter and all that stuff. But basically, you know, they're basically, it came from a lab, all right?

• 47:40Speaker 05

  I'm sick, I'm tired of this whole still lab leak theory, okay? At what point are we just going to say, we know that it came from there, but the real question is going to be, did you guys do it on purpose? Were you guys pissed at Trump? Did you guys want to shut down the world against Trump? Who did it because this freaking Fauci? It drives me crazy because he still has.

• 48:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Stick to facts, stick to facts.

• 48:04Speaker 05

  I'm gonna stick to facts.

• 48:05Patrick Bet-David?

  What do we know?

• 48:05Speaker 05

  So here's where we go. I'm gonna start with Cuomo too, is that okay, Pat?

• 48:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go for it.

• 48:09Speaker 05

  So Andrew Cuomo, by the way, the author.

• 48:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Chris Cuomo or Andrew Cuomo?

• 48:12Speaker 05

  Andrew Cuomo.

• 48:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 48:13Speaker 05

  Author of the book, American Crisis Leadership Lessons From The Covid 19 Pandemic. He's been referred to the DOJ for criminal charges, okay? He's being hit for obstructing a congressional investigation into Covid nursing home deaths in New York, okay? And this is all alleged. His office covered up the true death toll, altered state reports, and lied to the DOJ and the public, all while pushing a policy that forced Covid positive patients into nursing homes, leading to deaths of thousands of innocent seniors. Now, the Oversight Committee Chairman, James Comer, has been referred this to Pam Bondi, and he said, and I quote, "Andrew Cuomo is a man of history of corruption and deceit, now caught red-handed lying to Congress during the select committee's investigation

• 48:57Speaker 05

  into Covid 19 nursing home tragedy in New York." Let's be clear, guys, that's, lying to Congress is what James Comer is saying that this is all happening, right? And then, right in the middle of all this, these are facts, Anthony, Mr. Anthony Fauci, while America was shut down and locked in and scared to breathe, his net worth doubled. All right, guys? Going from 7.6 million to over 15 million between 2019 and 2022, okay? He made 4 million in salary and government perks, raked in 2 million in royalties and speaking gigs, and pulled in another 1.6 million in investment gains. Oh, and by the way, his wife, who was recently stepped down or let go of Robbie, I don't know if she was fired or not,

• 49:40Speaker 05

  she brought in 1.6 million from her own government job, all while Americans lost their businesses, buried family members, all right, and were silenced if they spoke up, all right? And he was the highest-paid federal employee in the government. And then, think about it, Joe Biden. Yes or no with the pen, if it was auto pen or not, Pat? Gave this guy the green light to walk and never be prosecuted or nothing to happen to him. I think that there needs to be a full investigation. Please find out if that auto pen was actual auto pen and go after them because this is what pisses me off, Pat. And this is one for, I want everybody to know this. Are we gonna let them slide for what they did? Are we gonna let Fauci, Biden, the White House, that Cuomo, or even Chris?

• 50:25Speaker 05

  And I love Chris to death. Do you remember the video that Chris put out, Pat? Chris Cuomo put out a video on CNN and he said, you know what the biggest threat to enemy to America is? It's the fellow Americans. How are we gonna let, like, you mind if I play this? Play this clip.

• 50:40Adam Sosnick?

  Think about this, in a world of threats and tyrants, terror. You know what our biggest enemy is in America? Our fellow Americans. The pandemic is dispositive proof of that. The number of new COVID cases going down. Deaths? Did you know that deaths this year already surpassed 2020s? 352,000. Now we're higher than that. And we have vaccines. How can we be dying more after we have what keeps you from dying?

• 51:15Speaker 05

  Okay, Robert, you can stop it because it keeps going on. How are we gonna let everything that they did to us? They destroyed the country, they destroyed the economy, they locked us down. They were telling us, get the vaccine, like, get, put this freaking experimental drug in your body. Fauci was behind all of it, all of them, and then everybody's gonna walk? Nobody's gonna be held accountable? Like, I don't want, I want us to stop and say, no, no, no. Before we move on to the next thing, I want accountability. Gain of function. Fauci lied in front of Congress over and over and over and people are dead because of him. Okay, and we're just supposed to say, okay, because he got a preemptive pardon, he's gonna walk.

• 51:59Speaker 05

  And even Andrew Cuomo, all these people, they all lied and people lost their lives. And like, it pisses me off that people are just on to the next thing. Like, something has to be done, Pat. And if that is auto pen, if Pam Bondi and the referring and James Cuomo referring, find out if that thing was actually happening and undo the freaking Fauci pardon and go after him. I think, Tom, isn't that only fair?

• 52:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, and I think the original topic here, the White House pushing lab leak this site and putting facts and history and items and then criticizing the Biden administration, criticizing the response. And I think the lab leak the White House has put out, the White House is not kicking the can down the road. Now they published, this is our point of view. And now the question is, will there ever be, you know, investigations, hearings or prosecution? Well, the guy at the middle of it has got a pardon. So what do you do with that guy?

• 52:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, but let me ask you a question. The this lab leak theory, when are we gonna stop and say, okay, we know it came from Wuhan?

• 52:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, we're making progress, though.

• 53:01Speaker 05

  Yep, but China gonna get held accountable, even if they say it came from this lab?

• 53:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you. So, let me tell you what, um, okay, so do you think China is gonna be held accountable for it?

• 53:14Speaker 05

  Nope.

• 53:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me why?

• 53:17Speaker 05

  That we owe them too much. They have all these people, all these deep state people are in their pockets.

• 53:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Why else?

• 53:24Speaker 05

  Why won't they be held accountable?

• 53:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Right now.

• 53:27Speaker 05

  I mean, to me, those are the two things. They have, they're protected. In our government, they're protected. They were promised they're never gonna get in trouble. And we owe them too much money.

• 53:36Patrick Bet-David?

  What else is it, though? We're also in the middle of a what negotiation?

• 53:39Speaker 05

  Trade war?

• 53:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So to me, the timing of it, now, one angle to think about it is, if you get 10 whistleblowers from the Wuhan lab, you bring them out, and you call China and you say, hey, just wanna let you know, the world is about to lose trust in you. I got 10 whistleblowers. They're protected. They're here with me. I'm not gonna give you the names. They're all about to go live next week. Stuff like this happens with politics, by the way. I'm not telling you anything that's like out of the ordinary, right? So, I don't know. If there is a way to use, you can never let a crisis go to waste, right, Rahm Emanuel? If they can use this crisis as a negotiating point.

• 54:24Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, to help the economy or helping next deal. But you really need some proof. You really need some guys on the inside. You really need some recon, sending some CIA folks to get in there and get some real intel. If you have that, that's big. Like, you know, when Trump, you know, tied with relationship Roy Cohn and some of these other guys. That's what their specialty was. Their specialty was what?

• 54:49Speaker 05

  Blackmail.

• 54:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Bribery.

• 54:50Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 54:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Blackmail.

• 54:51Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 54:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Some of these guys. So I don't know. I think you can use this crisis as a way to further advance the agenda of negotiating with China. I just don't know if we have all the intel or not. I'm not on the inside. I'm just a business guy. Adam.

• 55:06Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, I love what Vinnie's saying because, you know, we, you talk about this all the time that how uh, everyone has a hill they're willing to die on. I don't wake up every day thinking about what happened during COVID. If anything, I'm like, oh, we're, we're moving past that. But I appreciate that people like Vinnie are like, no, no, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on here, buddy? Uh, Mr. Fauci, not Dr. Fauci. Because I, I totally understand why people have such a lack of respect and appreciation for this guy. Now, he's a darling of the left. You know, I still see, tell me if you see this. I still see people in masks zombie walking these streets. What is happening? As if that mask is doing anything for you, Bill? So I totally appreciate that.

• 55:50Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, I remember speaking of the lab leak. I remember when it was just a crazy, kooky conspiracy theory. And then this thing happened. Can we play this?

• 55:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Can we, Rob, or no?

• 56:01Tom Ellsworth?

  We can. We're commenting.

• 56:02Adam Sosnick?

  All right. So Jon Stewart goes on.

• 56:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I remember this.

• 56:05Adam Sosnick?

  Stephen Colbert, after Stephen Colbert did a mariachi samba dance.

• 56:09Speaker 05

  For vaccines.

• 56:10Adam Sosnick?

  With all the vaccines.

• 56:11Speaker 05

  To get your vaccine. And my, and mind you, and that, before you play it, and my, my, my guys.

• 56:14Patrick Bet-David?

  So what year is this when we play this?

• 56:15Adam Sosnick?

  This is 2022, I'm assuming. What year is this?

• 56:19Speaker 05

  And remember, if you talk about.

• 56:20Tom Ellsworth?

  2021.

• 56:22Speaker 05

  And remember this, if you, like, what we're doing now, if we did this during COVID, they would shut down the channel. Think about that. They would shut down the channel.

• 56:31Adam Sosnick?

  Absolutely right.

• 56:31Speaker 05

  Which I, it's, it boggles my mind that they were suppressing it and now they're getting away with murder.

• 56:36Adam Sosnick?

  We used to have conversations about, should we talk about this? Should we not talk about this? I was like, is it worth the channel? I mean, hopefully, guys, everything okay? We're having a discussion.

• 56:45Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 56:45Adam Sosnick?

  But I remember this dance from Stephen Colbert.

• 56:48Speaker 05

  Well, look how uncomfortable he is right now.

• 56:49Adam Sosnick?

  Watch this. Go ahead. Stephen Colbert with Jon Stewart.

• 56:53Speaker 04

  debt of gratitude to science. Science has in many ways helped ease the suffering of this pandemic,

• 57:06Speaker 04

  which was more than likely caused by science.

• 57:11Adam Sosnick?

  Here we go.

• 57:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Look uncomfortable. Look how uncomfortable he is. Cause he works for the machine.

• 57:17Speaker 04

  And that's kind of. Hold on a second. No, no, no, no, no.

• 57:22Speaker 04

  Now, listen, listen.

• 57:23Adam Sosnick?

  He's getting very uncomfortable.

• 57:24Speaker 04

  It's coffee. I wouldn't do that to you. I'm all for spit takes. But what do you mean by, do you mean like there's perhaps there's a chance that this was created in a lab? There's an investigation. A chance? Well, I, I, I. Oh, my God.

• 57:37Adam Sosnick?

  Here we go.

• 57:37Speaker 04

  There's a novel respiratory coronavirus overtaking Wuhan, China. What do we do? Oh, you know who we could ask? The Wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab. The disease is the same name as the lab. That's just, that's just a little too weird, don't you think? And then they ask those scientists, they're like, how did this? So wait a minute, you work at the Wuhan respiratory coronavirus lab? How did this happen? And they're like, mm, a pangolin kissed a turtle.

• 58:10Adam Sosnick?

  It was a bat that I was eating in a wet market.

• 58:12Speaker 04

  The name of your lab, if you look at the name, look at the name. Can I, let me see your business card. Show me your business card. Oh, I work at the coronavirus lab in Wuhan.

• 58:27Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there.

• 58:28Adam Sosnick?

  Such a good take by Jon Stewart. I mean, and.

• 58:30Speaker 05

  And you nailed the point, like for negotiation for the trade thing. But I feel, my opinion, that one of the reasons it was released was because Trump was being so hard on them on trade and putting their foot through the fire.

• 58:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't disagree.

• 58:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, and it just drives me crazy that we've made, we've gotten all these promises from Epstein's list. By the way, Trump was shot in the head. We know more about that FSU guy in two hours than we know anything about Thomas Crooks. Guy with six cell phones communicating with Ukraine. Same thing with Ryan Ralph, Ukraine, all these connections, all right? No covid answers, no nothing answer. It's just, it's just as the average American, it really, really disappoints me that these people are getting away with it.

• 59:09Adam Sosnick?

  I just fully agree. We need to hold China accountable. Like I said before in the previous segment, make China pay. The one thing I will say that, that covid did do for me, you know, everything like this is that it completely pierced the bubble that I was potentially living in, where I was like, what do you mean the mainstream media would lie to you?

• 59:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 59:28Adam Sosnick?

  What do you?

• 59:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let's go to the next one.

• 59:29Adam Sosnick?

  What do you mean about that?

• 59:30Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. So is this congresswoman is in a supermarket, Rob, if I'm not mistaken, right? And she starts recording this guy who is, you know, being a little bit obnoxious to her and she just records it. Watch this exchange here. Go for it.

• 59:47Adam Sosnick?

  You're talking about Nancy Mace?

• 59:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Nancy Mace, yes. Watch this, folks.

• 59:50Adam Sosnick?

  Congressman, South Carolina.

• 59:54Speaker 02

  Nancy? Yes. When are you gonna host a town hall for the people? You, did you miss the 15 I had last year? That wasn't a town, when are you gonna host one this year? I've already had one and will have a dozen more. The town hall you hosted this year was not a town hall. Uh, it was a town hall and um, I do them, I do them every year. Every year? You wanna keep going? Are you gonna do any more this year? Wanna keep going, keep harassing me? I'm asking if you're gonna have any more town halls this year. I did a dozen town halls last year. I asked if you're doing any more this year. It was one simple question. Yeah. Are you doing a town hall this year or not? I'm always on one, I'll do one more. Are you doing any more this year? It was a simple question. You're always invited. Okay, sweet. Well, look out for an actual invitation for the next one.

• 1:00:28Speaker 02

  I voted for gay marriage twice. What does that have to do with me? So, I'm just saying, it has to do, everything to do with you. You think everything about me has to do with gay marriage? That's your first stance when you speak with me? There's no other humane conversation you can have about me? There's no other humane thing you can talk about me, just saying, oh, I support gay marriage? Yeah.

• 1:00:47Patrick Bet-David?

  There's better, Rob.

• 1:00:47Adam Sosnick?

  That weighs better video, Rob.

• 1:00:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I know, but the other video doesn't show the entire interaction. It shows where Nancy Mace picks up and starts recording.

• 1:00:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it.

• 1:00:56Speaker 05

  So now you, yeah.

• 1:00:57Adam Sosnick?

  Can you show the other video? Cause it'd be important to see what the other guy looks like. You also see her.

• 1:01:02Speaker 05

  Yeah. And while he's, and while he's doing it, Rob.

• 1:01:04Adam Sosnick?

  Rob wanted to get the low angle.

• 1:01:06Speaker 05

  No, no, no, no.

• 1:01:07Adam Sosnick?

  Where you see from the floor.

• 1:01:08Speaker 05

  Because this is how it started, because the guy's recording her, because he knows he wants to get into a confrontation with her, because she's anti-trans.

• 1:01:14Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what we're lit with, Rob. 30 seconds, I think. Yeah, that's good. Go for it.

• 1:01:18Speaker 02

  You think everything about me has to do with gay marriage? I do, absolutely. stands when you speak with me

• 1:01:23Adam Sosnick?

  absolutely if you want to get in my face about town halls you should have shown up to one last year

• 1:01:28Speaker 02

  thing you can talk about me just saying oh I support gay marriage

• 1:01:31Adam Sosnick?

  yeah because you're getting in my face about a town hall you could have gone last year

• 1:01:35Speaker 02

  question from right over here is if you have any plans to have more town halls this year

• 1:01:39Adam Sosnick?

  I have town halls every year I have over a dozen every year

• 1:01:41Speaker 02

  great that was my entire question you didn't have to go into this spiel

• 1:01:44Adam Sosnick?

  you could have you could have come to any of them last year I had over a dozen where were you the year before that or the year before that oh because you know what because you people on the left are crazy you're absolutely fucking crazy

• 1:01:58Speaker 02

  I'm absolutely fucking crazy

• 1:02:00Adam Sosnick?

  and get out of my get out of my face goodbye

• 1:02:03Speaker 02

  you're insane

• 1:02:03Adam Sosnick?

  fuck you

• 1:02:04Speaker 02

  you're gonna fuck me and you're gonna be voted out so fast this year I can't wait for you to fucking go into the

• 1:02:09Adam Sosnick?

  I'm not I won by so much

• 1:02:10Speaker 02

  you're a disgrace to this state that's what you are you're a disgrace I asked you a simple question and you just to go on this tirade and tell me fuck you

• 1:02:16Adam Sosnick?

  yeah fuck you

• 1:02:17Speaker 02

  disgusting

• 1:02:17Adam Sosnick?

  get out of my face

• 1:02:18Speaker 02

  fuck you

• 1:02:19Adam Sosnick?

  get out of my face try it again what's your name what's your name what's your name yep I sure did absolutely get the fuck out of my face now fuck you you couldn't take me on baby say the fuck away from me

• 1:02:35Speaker 05

  guys let's by the way for the people that don't know and I'll tell you right now and Rob can you Rob can you play the one I will because I want Pat's reaction it's one of the fun it's the second funniest thing that we're gonna show the one where it's the transgender she's doing this I think it was later that day or yesterday with Rob with Nancy Mace Nancy Mace is doing a speaking engagement and a transgender is saying something about her saying the word tranny now Pat listen this I thought this was a female at the beginning it's a guy dressed as a girl and listen to the voice deepen it's not only scary it's hilarious and let's just really really fast Nancy Mace is is the congresswoman who doesn't want men

• 1:03:15Speaker 05

  to go into women's bathrooms especially in congress and now that whole LGBTQ LP whatever LMP community is going after Pat this is this is I think I believe yesterday and listen to the voice change Rob if you could put it up so Pat can hear it

• 1:03:31Speaker 02

  does your husband call you babe I'm not married okay so even better and I I don't I don't care okay so I would like Rachel

• 1:03:41Speaker 05

  that's a girl no it's not what apologize for saying tranny

• 1:03:46Speaker 05

  yeah That's for the fucking hair.

• 1:03:52Speaker 05

  Go back, go back. Look at Pat's face. Look at Pat's face. What?

• 1:03:56Adam Sosnick?

  Do it again, Rob?

• 1:04:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Bush, yeah. That's for the fucking hair.

• 1:04:04Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, tranny, tranny, tranny. But that's derogatory.

• 1:04:11Adam Sosnick?

  Taking my bush and going home.

• 1:04:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Adam, thoughts on this exchange with Nancy Mace?

• 1:04:15Adam Sosnick?

  Well, the, the second one or the first one?

• 1:04:17Patrick Bet-David?

  First one.

• 1:04:18Adam Sosnick?

  The first one, I actually think Nancy is mostly in the wrong.

• 1:04:25Adam Sosnick?

  You're at a public forum, you're at what looks like a CBS or a Walgreens or whatever. The guy was not as sassy as the article made it out to be. His shorts were a little bit lower than I thought they would be, no doubt. He's like, he basically said, hey, when's your next town hall? He wasn't like, fuck you, I hate you. He said, when's your next town hall? And she was quick on the trigger. I mean, she's, I think she went to the Citadel, right? She was like one of the first women, if not the first person to graduate from the, uh, from the Citadel, from some certain segment of, um, the Corps of Cadets of the Citadel, you can fact check that. So she's a badass, I get it. But you know, sometimes when you have a trigger finger, you're a little quick on the trigger.

• 1:05:09Adam Sosnick?

  So all he said was, hey, when's your next town hall? And it devolved into, no, you, no, you. What? I, I think it's a little aggressive on her part, not a good look for her.

• 1:05:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, go ahead, Tom, and I'll, I'll let you know what I gotta say.

• 1:05:21Tom Ellsworth?

  So, do you know how many times? You know, you can't go to the store as a House Representative or a Senator, anybody. You can't go out. You can't go to dinner. You can't go places. We see it, they, people just get in your face. And so, does she have a quick trigger? Maybe. You know, uh, this guy was playing this little game of kinda, you didn't answer the question, you didn't answer a question. She said, I did 12 town halls last year. I'm doing town halls this year. Why don't you go to last year or this year? So I agree that she was a little maybe quick on the trigger. But how many times do you think folks are getting in her face? And so, they end up... With a naturally quick trigger. Look at, look at the way athletes evolve as they get fame.

• 1:06:05Tom Ellsworth?

  There are those that know how to deal with it and they have a handler, get you in and out of restaurants. And they have those that sometimes gets a little, you know, they get a little chippy with people because, you know, you dropped the ball, you did all this. And in this case, eh, yeah, she a little quick. Yeah, maybe.

• 1:06:22Speaker 05

  A little quick, but you know what? I'm for, I'm for, because you know what? She is a female, oh, oh, oh, rape victim, female, that's pro-woman, obviously. She's been sticking up for women. She's sticking up for women not to have men be in the bathroom with women in Congress. And did you see the backlash?

• 1:06:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Or schools specifically.

• 1:06:41Speaker 05

  And schools. Did you see the backlash of death threats and things from the LGBTQ trans whatever community, threatening her life, to kill her, all over the internet? And that's when you're just fed up with it, Adam. When that whole, and mind you, they're all lumped in. Since you guys all want to be in this community under the same umbrella, the rainbow umbrella. I'm sorry, she's fed up with it. It's like, bro, this is one issue that she's staying on. And guess what? She should. No man should be in any bathroom with, if, if I walked into a bathroom and a guy, dressed as a woman, is in the bathroom, and his daughters, or my sister, or my niece is in there, it's gonna be a problem. Period. End of story. And this guy, this, this transgender, who changed his voice into this, picked up a plant. The second clip, hey, picked up a plant, he was ready to throw it at her.

• 1:07:26Speaker 05

  That's the, dude, they're the violent ones. It's them. There's no, there's no trans fear.

• 1:07:30Tom Ellsworth?

  I totally agree with that.

• 1:07:31Speaker 05

  Nobody, nobody scared of transgenders, bro. Just do your thing. Our thing is stay out of the bathrooms and leave the kids alone. It's that simple. And if you're gonna step to her in public, she can say whatever the hell she wants. Leave her alone. Leave her alone.

• 1:07:42Tom Ellsworth?

  So, do I agree, do I agree with her, her policies? Do I agree with her beliefs? So I understand that she had a sexual assault, I think, at one time. I know that she's definitely against, uh, men and women's, I, I'm fully agree with her. But let me tell you how things work. Cause how many times have you been approached in public, PBD? How many times? A lot. So much you can't even count.

• 1:08:03Adam Sosnick?

  If every single time you're ready to have a fight with somebody, you're gonna have a very miserable life. You're gonna have a very miserable existence. You know, I remember one time we were at the, uh, your favorite Chinese restaurant, Japanese restaurant, uh, in, uh, California.

• 1:08:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yoshinoya.

• 1:08:19Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, and some guy, some guy steps to PBD. I don't, I don't agree with you.

• 1:08:24Speaker 05

  At 11:00 PM, the only place open.

• 1:08:26Adam Sosnick?

  This is right after we were at the, um,

• 1:08:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Debate.

• 1:08:28Adam Sosnick?

  The Republican debate in California, at Simi Valley in Reagan. And some guy, he was a, you know, you could tell he was a worker. You know, he had paint on his overalls, kind of a guy, and he kinda like stepped to PBD. Not disrespectfully, but he kinda came up, almost like this guy, challenging, uh, Nancy Mace. He goes, "Yeah, I don't like that you talk trash about California." And then PBD's reaction was, "Oh, really? Tell me why." He said, "You don't like how you, you're calling out California? I love California." And PBD said, "Well, let me ask you something." And what happened was a very contentious situation that could have been bad, actually being a very harmonious, great conversation. So that's the type of thing that these politicians who are quick on the trigger should probably do. Because how many times, how many people are gonna see this and be like, "Oh,

• 1:09:13Adam Sosnick?

  if I run into this lady in public, I know it's on." It's a very, it's a very unfun existence. If she would've said, "Well, actually, we do town halls, uh, next month. It's coming up. Can I send you an invite?" Nice shorts. Well, yeah. Like, do you really wanna go around life like that, challenging every single person? The guy wasn't that disrespectful.

• 1:09:32Speaker 05

  If a community threatens-

• 1:09:33Adam Sosnick?

  She's the person that said, "Fuck you first."

• 1:09:35Speaker 05

  If a community, if a community is threatening my life, Adam, yes, I'm, I'm fine back.

• 1:09:40Adam Sosnick?

  What do you mean, Rob? What is that?

• 1:09:41Speaker 05

  The LGBTQ community is threatening to kill her online. They make videos of her saying, "We're gonna get you," but like, whatever, bro, I'm not-

• 1:09:47Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, but that's, okay.

• 1:09:48Patrick Bet-David?

  What is this, Rob?

• 1:09:49Adam Sosnick?

  Don't be out in public.

• 1:09:50Tom Ellsworth?

  This is a video Nancy Mace released after the confrontation with the man in the Daisy Dukes at the Walgreens, where she talks about the confrontation.

• 1:09:57Adam Sosnick?

  Got it. And then today, her first day as comms director is Daisy Dukes Day. Yeah, that guy. It's not the first time I've ever had, uh, I've ever used language with people before.

• 1:10:09Speaker 05

  And it certainly won't be the last. You don't have the right to harass me. It's not ever gonna be okay. And if you want to get in my face, expect it right back and I will record you. And I will make you famous. Bingo.

• 1:10:21Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know.

• 1:10:22Patrick Bet-David?

  All right.

• 1:10:22Adam Sosnick?

  What do you think, PBD? I want to actually get your take on this because.

• 1:10:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, let me tell you what I learned a long time ago. If something traumatic happens to you that creates, causes you to have a certain set of beliefs and value system based on trauma, never debate that person. There's no point to it. It's trauma. If it's not based on reason, for example, you hate guns because your family was all Second Amendment. You're in Oklahoma. Your two-year-old daughter accidentally grabs the gun and boom. Your oldest son may never forgive you. And he may never be a fan of guns. Hypothetically, I'm just making a. Good luck trying to argue with that guy to say you're wrong.

• 1:11:11Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:11:12Patrick Bet-David?

  He said, no, no, I will never see my sister ever again. The last time I saw my sister was two years old. So, I mean, I get it. I understand, you know, where she's at and it's stuff that's happened to her that's personal. When that happens, you're not going to change your mind. This is, this is what you get with her. You know, does she create unnecessary drama? At the end of the day, we're talking about her on the podcast. So who knows, maybe it's, it's helping her out. Uh, but you're right, it is going to attract other people that if they want eyeballs, just go up to her because you know how to get under her skin.

• 1:11:42Adam Sosnick?

  Easily.

• 1:11:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, all right, so let's go to the next story here. Um, next story, I'm going to go to Harvard, Tom. So not I'm gonna go to Harvard, I'm gonna go to the Harvard story. I just want to make sure I clarify that, yeah. So here's with Harvard, folks, there's some interesting things going on over there. Um, where is that story? Is that story on the addendum rap or is it on the?

• 1:12:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, if you can do me a favor. Yes. Because it's the sequencing, right? Because first, the Trump administration says, "We're not going to be funding you." Then, two, Harvard sues the Trump administration, right? Then, three, Trump's administration, irate at Harvard, plans to pull additional billion dollars in funding. This is the Page 3 Wall Street Journal, Rob. It looks like you've got a video here. I'll read this and then if you want to play the clip. "The Trump administration, furious after Harvard publicly released a long list of demands sent on April 11, plans to pull an additional billion dollars in health research funding. The demands included federal government oversight of admissions, hiring, and the ideology of students and staff. Harvard's president, Alan Garber, stated,

• 1:12:49Patrick Bet-David?

  "The intention is not to work with us, to address anti-Semitism in a cooperative and constructive manner," and confirmed, "We will not accept our proposed agreement." The administration, initially planning leniency, now seeks to pressure Harvard from more than Columbia University. Harvard's release of the demands letter from the Task Force to Combat Anti-Semitism, which was not marked "private," positioned the university as a face of resistance. The administration froze $2.26 billion in funding and threatened Harvard's tax-exempt status and international study enrollment. Go ahead, Rob.

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• 1:14:24Speaker 04

  I think what they did was a disgrace. They're obviously anti-Semitic. And all of a sudden, they're starting to behave. But when you see where they, what they were saying, what they were doing, when you see the way they took care of events, when you, when you watch that woman, that horrendous president that ruined the image of Harvard, maybe permanently.

• 1:14:48Patrick Bet-David?

  He's not wrong.

• 1:14:49Speaker 04

  In Congress, in the halls of Congress, when you take a look at what happened there.

• 1:14:52Adam Sosnick?

  What, Ingey was her name?

• 1:14:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:54Speaker 04

  It's, it was horrific. And, you know, I've looked at a lot having to do with it. I'm not involved in it being handled by lawyers. I read about it just like you did. But tax-exempt status, I mean, it's a privilege. It's really a privilege. And it's been abused by a lot more than Harvard, too. By a lot more than Harvard. So, we'll see how that all works out. I don't think they've made, I don't think they've made a final ruling.

• 1:15:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 1:15:22Speaker 04

  I don't believe they've made a final ruling, but it's.

• 1:15:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it. Tom.

• 1:15:26Tom Ellsworth?

  So, starting, we have to remember where this started. This didn't start with Trump. This started with, you know, Jewish students on campus not being protected, and then a president sitting in front of Congress, admitting, by saying, "Oh, I'm not answering that question, that's not what we've done," but, admitting it. And then she, you know, suffers a consequence when she goes back, because he's right. And now what they're saying is saying, "Look, you seem to say you're a private institution when that works for you. And now, you're upset at me, this is public money. This money that they're getting from the US government for research, or whatever they're doing at the university, started with the taxpayers. Started with you.

• 1:16:11Tom Ellsworth?

  You gave $4 to Harvard last year, Vinny, you just don't know it. Right? I mean, you take a look at the, the, the hundreds of millions of dollars that went there.

• 1:16:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny? You know? You gave money to Harvard last year? No, I didn't.

• 1:16:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, you did.

• 1:16:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I did?

• 1:16:26Tom Ellsworth?

  In your taxes.

• 1:16:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Literally, that's what he's saying. That's not cool. Public money is out of your taxes that you, they collected. 2.26 billion dollars of it went to Harvard last year. So you're probably $4 of it. I'm not happy with it. Go ahead, Tom.

• 1:16:36Tom Ellsworth?

  There you go. And so Harvard likes to say, oh, we're private. Leave us alone. We're private. And then the government is saying, okay, well, then you go live your private life. I'll just turn off this valve and I'm not going to send you this money. And they're like, wait a minute. Right? It reminds me, you know, of, you know, a, you know, you can't live in two worlds. And Harvard's trying to live in two worlds right now, and they are getting called out. But what they're getting called out is the onion's getting peeled back. You had, you had the Yale case, where Yale got sued by Asian students saying, we're being discriminated against. And when you line up the, the, the applications and our credentials and our test scores, numbers, why aren't we getting admitted? Well, because we're doing some other things.

• 1:17:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, you were. And then Yale ended up in front of the, the Justice Department under Biden.

• 1:17:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Harvard's heading for the same place. And Harvard is absolutely in the wrong here. And now you've got, I love Lyndon McMahon. Okay, well, then there's no problem telling us all about your sources of foreign funding and where you're getting it, but you're, but you're private.

• 1:17:41Patrick Bet-David?

  They do not want that.

• 1:17:42Tom Ellsworth?

  They don't want to talk about that. And then, and then he's saying, you know, I have filed Section 117 reports for decades. Okay, we're not asking if you filed Section 117 reports for decades. We're asking if you can identify all the sources on all Section 117 reports, or maybe did you not file all of the reports you're supposed to?

• 1:18:05Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not good for Harvard. Because when discovery comes, by the way, this is Scott Jennings, the CEO of CNN, having a conversation with Jamil, is that Jamil Hill? I want to say correctly. Watch this exchange about Harvard and look what her logic is. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:18:19Speaker 05

  You admit that you want universities to exclude everyone? No, because there's no proof that they're actually being excluded. Because if that, no, there isn't. 96% of contribution from Harvard faculty went to Democrats. What else you got? Okay, so you're talking about contribution. I'm talking about who's actually, who's on campus, who is teaching people?

• 1:18:35Patrick Bet-David?

  How you contribute is what you teach.

• 1:18:36Speaker 05

  I believe me. Okay, so clearly you used to teach there, right? Yeah, I was, I was treated like an exotic zoo animal. Trust me. Oh, I'm sure. The faculty is not conservative, believe me. Oh, okay. So at Harvard, I just imagine all of these conservative politicians that go there, they go there because they don't feel welcome? They just go there to go there? If you're trying to come on here tonight and argue that Harvard is A hotbed of conservatism. I'm not, I'm just saying that they're not, so are we gonna do the same thing at Baylor? Are we gonna do the same thing at Liberty? Are we gonna invite more liberal thoughts to those universities? I think if public universities, or any university taking public funds is violating the civil rights of Jewish students, or actively screening out conservatives and conservative viewpoints, we need to have a conversation.

• 1:19:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Boom. By the way, so let me tell you what happened with me. I got accepted into this program with Harvard called OPM, Owner President Management Program. And I went in 2015. And I'm excited, so we get an RV and we, you know, get the RV out there. It's me, Mario and Paul, okay?

• 1:19:31Patrick Bet-David?

  And while I'm there, the experience was a great experience because the attendees that are there. But guess what day it falls on? It falls on the day because you'd be in jail. Debate.

• 1:19:42Speaker 05

  What?

• 1:19:44Patrick Bet-David?

  This is 2016, Trump versus Hillary, you're saying? I am in, I am in the Chow Hall. Chow Hall is what it's called because a man named Chow gave a hundred dollars. Not military Chow Hall. Not Chow Hall like military, he demands them, "Go to Harvard, tap in Harvard Chow Hall." Chow Hall. Like Mr. Chow, the restaurant? Yeah, brother Chow, but it's C-H-A-O. Chow Hall, Chow, O, O Rob. Chow Hall, Chow Hall. Oh, Rob is not gonna get it. Ruth was from Chow Center, okay. Anyways, it's a place where we're eating food. So, they say everyone's gonna watch the debate in the Chow Hall, by the stairs. What do I do? I go, okay? And keep in mind, this isn't at a time where we're doing PBD Podcasts.

• 1:20:29Patrick Bet-David?

  This is 2016. We're not doing PBD Podcasts, we're not doing any of that stuff. And I'm there, and I sit and watch everybody. I don't make a single noise. Benny, do you know how many people, out of the 300 people in the room rooted for Trump once? Do you know how many people? Zero.

• 1:20:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Zero. You know what, so the next thing I did, I went straight to the administrator. I said, "Can I ask you a question? Do you guys like the debate here?" Of course we do. How come all of you are for Hillary?

• 1:20:58Patrick Bet-David?

  No, we're not. I said, tell me one person here is not for Hillary. Go ahead. You know me when we go to Chal- Chop's, I'm gonna bring up the conversation. So tell me, how come none of you guys are rooting for Trump? You don't like, he's not a good guy? Is that what it is? So all of you guys know what's right for the rest of us. Is that what it is? I said, I can't come back to Harvard again. Why? Because you guys don't believe in debate. This is not a place where you guys believe in debate. This is a place where you guys want to brainwash everybody to think the way you think. This is not a place where you welcome debate. You all look down at people like me. You all look down at people like us who have a different opinion on what could happen, right? And Harvard's going through right now. I'm telling you, if Discovery opens up, it is gonna be horrible for Harvard. Adam?

• 1:21:42Adam Sosnick?

  Well, this is a shock to nobody. I mean, how many, what percentage of university professors lean liberal versus conservative? I think it was thirteen to one. It could be even higher at this point. Thirteen to one?

• 1:21:54Patrick Bet-David?

  For every one conservative, thirteen's liberal.

• 1:21:56Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, there's actually a new report out there that could be as high as twenty-eight to one. Harvard, Harvard studies indicate that over eighty percent of Harvard faculty, faculty identify as liberal. Only two percent identify as conservative, which is eighteen percent.

• 1:22:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that according to ChatGPT?

• 1:22:14Adam Sosnick?

  This is according to ChatGPT.

• 1:22:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you, can you tell Rob to ask this question? Because ChatGPT is owned by OpenAI. What question did you ask, by the way?

• 1:22:21Adam Sosnick?

  I said, what percentage of university professors are liberal versus conservative? And then find out what Howard was. I'm sorry, Harvard was. Howard is a different university. But nobody's shocked to hear what's going on here.

• 1:22:35Adam Sosnick?

  And, you know, you talked about the hotbed of this type of mentality. Harvard is the, uh... Wow. Wow, look at that, bro. Tip of the spear with this. Yeah.

• 1:22:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to Laura, and then ask specifically about Harvard.

• 1:22:49Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, it should maybe pop down over there, ask about Harvard. But it's as high as possibly twenty-eight to one.

• 1:22:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Thirty-three to one ratio?

• 1:22:57Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. So, you know, I'm not in favor of government overreach or the federal government stepping in here. But when you have a massive monopoly, what's the definition of monopoly? Over 50% or over 75% of market share, whatever it is? This is 98, 99% of university professors.

• 1:23:17Patrick Bet-David?

  What's very liberal.

• 1:23:18Adam Sosnick?

  Woke, like you think Hamas should run the country somehow, something like that. So like the guy that's running against Cuomo in, uh, in New York. But, you know, I remember when we were researching Harvard, when Claudine Gay and the university professors are getting grilled by Elise Stefanic, and I was like, what the hell's going on here? And Harvard, there's a, there's a, it's called FIRE, like Freedom Index of, uh, find that, Freedom of Speech, Harvard was the least free university for free speech, Harvard. It's called FIRE Free Speech Rankings. Here you go. FIRE 2024 College Free Speech Rankings, Harvard University received a score of zero,

• 1:24:00Adam Sosnick?

  placing it last among the 251 universities surveyed. The score is considered abysmal and significantly lower than average. Harvard's actual score was negative, negative 10, which is rounded out.

• 1:24:12Patrick Bet-David?

  What does negative mean?

• 1:24:13Adam Sosnick?

  Meaning like.

• 1:24:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Suppressive.

• 1:24:15Adam Sosnick?

  Suppressive. So when PBD tells the story about he went to Harvard and everyone was against Trump, everyone was rooting for Hillary. This is no longer.

• 1:24:25Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, Adam, keep this in mind. Everyone in the business department. Do you understand? This is not poli-si law.

• 1:24:33Adam Sosnick?

  This isn't liberal arts.

• 1:24:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Business.

• 1:24:35Adam Sosnick?

  Insane. Yeah. So when you talk about the East Coast liberal elites and their ivory towers, Harvard is center stage for that type of mentality. By the way, this, there's a trickle down effect, whether it's Harvard, Stanford, whether it's Cal Berkeley, whether it's GW, whether it's Columbia in New York, whether it's GW. This type of mentality is now pervasive. So now we have adults who are going to send their very smart children, like Tom Ellsworth, who should I go and send them to Harvard? Should I send them to Stanford? Or should I send them to Rice? It's like, well, let me actually go to a university that they're not going to come down, come out indoctrinated with basically Marxist ideology. It's very concerning.

• 1:25:20Speaker 05

  If Tico was in Harvard, I get in three days, you'd get a phone call and be like, I can't, he can't. Maybe one day. He wouldn't be able to. I don't know how they do it. And then we wonder why all the, all these, all the youth, a lot of them have lost their freaking minds.

• 1:25:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Well, folks, there, there is a video that's gone viral on X. And it's these identical twins in Australia who are literally speaking in sync at the same time. Rob, I don't know if you have.

• 1:25:49Speaker 05

  You know what it is? So, so they're identical, Pat? They're, they witnessed an armed carjacking in Queensland, Australia, and the twins, uh.

• 1:25:57Patrick Bet-David?

  This is real. This isn't fake.

• 1:25:58Speaker 05

  Guys, this is not fake. I looked it up. Trust me. I, I, I not only looked it up, I Googled it and I chat G P T it. Bridget Powers and Paula Powers explained how their mom came face to face with a carjacker. If this doesn't make you laugh and make your day, I don't know what can.

• 1:26:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see this, Rob.

• 1:26:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Witnesses are recounting some of the drama that unfolded on the Sunshine Coast this afternoon. Two sisters have told how their mother and man raced to help when the carjacked S U V

• 1:26:25Speaker 02

  rolled on Steve Irwin Way, only to find the gun wielding car thief emerging from the wreck. Here's some of what they had to say.

• 1:26:34Patrick Bet-David?

  And one guy, he was up there with our mom. And he, he went up there and he was coming back down towards us. And he goes, run, he's got a gun. And, and oh, our hearts started pounding. And I said, well, mom, where's mom? And poor, poor mom was stuck up there. But apparently our brave mom, she goes, are you all right? Because he had all blood all over his face. And he goes, I'll shoot you. She goes, hey, I'm here to help. And mom distracted him to make him look the other way. And he looked the other way. And mom ran into the bush

• 1:27:16Patrick Bet-David?

  behind the fence. And the guy goes to her, I'll find you.

• 1:27:21Adam Sosnick?

  And I'll shoot you.

• 1:27:22Speaker 05

  What?

• 1:27:23Adam Sosnick?

  All I was thinking about when, when we were running, I hope he doesn't fire. Fire. Yeah. She almost went off cue there. How close to him. This reminds me of.

• 1:27:31Speaker 05

  Can we bring them here?

• 1:27:32Adam Sosnick?

  This reminds me of the clip, the play of the mainstream media where they're all saying the same thing in unison.

• 1:27:38Speaker 05

  Bad, bad.

• 1:27:38Adam Sosnick?

  You know, information you see on the internet is not exactly entitled to believe.

• 1:27:42Speaker 05

  I will pay to bring them here and you interview both of them at the same time.

• 1:27:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, from a parenting perspective, this is, this is a miracle because.

• 1:27:49Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 1:27:50Tom Ellsworth?

  I think as Pat, myself, anybody that has multiple children, getting the same story from two children at the same time is rare.

• 1:27:57Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what, Tom? And maybe there's something there.

• 1:27:59Speaker 05

  If that was me.

• 1:28:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe there's something there.

• 1:28:01Speaker 05

  If that was me and my brother, I'd be like, yo, can you shut up for two seconds and let me finish?

• 1:28:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe there's something there.

• 1:28:06Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 1:28:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe there's something there.

• 1:28:07Speaker 05

  It's so freaking funny, man.

• 1:28:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, maybe there's something there. All right. So I want, I want to show you guys this here, Rob.

• 1:28:11Speaker 05

  Cry.

• 1:28:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, th- th- this here is a clip. Uh, Rob, if you can go to the stories that I have, uh, it says men needs two guy nights a week to stay healthy. Studies say, okay? Go to it right there. Zoom in a little bit if you could. An Oxford University study finds men require two guys nights a week to maintain mental and physical well-being, led by psychologist Robin Dunbar. Researchers say meeting up twice weekly with your closest friends whenever over a pint or a football match strengthens bond and protects against depression and job-related stress.

• 1:28:56Patrick Bet-David?

  The team linked regular male gatherings to lower anxiety levels, quicker recovery levels from illness, and even increased generosity among participants, yet roughly 40% of men currently manage only one weekly meetup, failing, falling short of the twice-weekly threshold for maximum benefits.

• 1:29:15Speaker 05

  Do you know why that's, I have, you know why I bought bunk beds for my house?

• 1:29:18Patrick Bet-David?

  What is that?

• 1:29:18Speaker 05

  So Tom comes over twice a week.

• 1:29:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that what you're doing now?

• 1:29:20Speaker 05

  Tom stays over, he gets a top because I respect him. You know what I mean? Tom, Tom stays over and we, we don't, I don't, I don't drink, Tom doesn't drink like that. And then we just, we just put on a football game and we just get into it and then that's it. And then we just fall asleep twice a week, Monday and Friday.

• 1:29:35Tom Ellsworth?

  When I see this, you know what I think?

• 1:29:35Adam Sosnick?

  That's not gay at all, Vinnie.

• 1:29:37Speaker 05

  No, what do you mean? It, Adam, it's for his.

• 1:29:39Adam Sosnick?

  Totally masculine, I get it.

• 1:29:40Speaker 05

  Oxford find out that, look, look at that word, requires two guys nights. I'm helping. What are you talking about? He needs it.

• 1:29:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Whenever you see a university does a study, somebody paid for the study.

• 1:29:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, for sure.

• 1:29:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Right, like this public money.

• 1:29:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Who would pay for this? A bar?

• 1:29:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, it's the London Association of Pubs probably paid Oxford for this.

• 1:30:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Going to bars, not enough times, you gotta go twice a week.

• 1:30:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Conclusion of our study is two nights a week, you need to be at the pub.

• 1:30:06Speaker 05

  And drink.

• 1:30:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Pub owners rejoice at results of new study.

• 1:30:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, but I mean, I can you see, probably, let's just say somebody's, you know, married and it's just, he's at the house with the family, with the kids, you know, and they're just all about that. A break to be, because I don't know, because I'm a single guy, like, don't you think to be with your friends and get that vibe?

• 1:30:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, no, for sure.

• 1:30:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Increased generosity, too.

• 1:30:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, want a beer?

• 1:30:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 1:30:30Patrick Bet-David?

  For sure, it's necessary. There is no question about it, that camaraderie, the community to be a part of, for sure. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 1:30:37Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, I'm a man, I'm 40. You ever seen that clip?

• 1:30:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:40Adam Sosnick?

  So, uh, yeah, every guy needs to have buddies, but you know, you see these reports out there that compared to 1980 to basically 2025, men have way less friends that they used to have. Have you ever seen these reports out there?

• 1:30:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:30:55Adam Sosnick?

  You know, I say this all the time about social media is not socializing. So many people are like, ah, you know, COVID killed everybody, like, like that. But they, they force us all to stay

• 1:31:10Adam Sosnick?

  as a recluse in our homes, stay on social media and keep our faces and screens rather than being, interacting with others. You know, the most important thing that you can possibly have in your life is health. The next thing is relationships, whether that's friendships, whether there's partnerships, whether that's actually hanging out with people, any sort of relationships. I fully advocate that guys get out there and got do, do guy things with other men. I don't think you need to go get bunk beds like Tom and Vinnie out here. But I, I think that, you know, behind the scenes, nobody understands that it's just guys just hanging out and having guy friends. That's just really what this comes down to.

• 1:31:48Adam Sosnick?

  I also believe the same thing about girls. Show me a girl that does not have girlfriends and only has guy friends. I'll show you a girl that probably has.

• 1:31:58Speaker 05

  A lot of guy friends.

• 1:32:00Adam Sosnick?

  Friends. Show me a guy that only has girlfriends and no guy friends. I'll show you a very weak, feckless man.

• 1:32:06Speaker 05

  Does he wear shorts?

• 1:32:07Adam Sosnick?

  Some people.

• 1:32:08Speaker 05

  Does he wear shorts?

• 1:32:08Adam Sosnick?

  Very short shorts. So a lot of guys hit me up on my neck and say, hey, in Miami, how do I go out there? How do I meet women? I said, before you go out there and meet women, make sure you have guy friends. Like, go out there and hang out with guys.

• 1:32:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, try guys first before you try.

• 1:32:21Adam Sosnick?

  Definitely don't. I'm definitely not doing. I'm definitely not advocating that is that if you want to go out and have like people to hang out with, don't be that dude who's just running solo status like a lone wolf. Have some buddies to hang out with. So whether it's going out, trying to meet some people, whether it's business, whether it's networking, a guy needs to have guys to hang out with.

• 1:32:41Speaker 05

  And if you have a friend that's married, you know what? Invite him over twice a week, right? Tom?

• 1:32:48Adam Sosnick?

  What is happening between Vinnie and Tom?

• 1:32:51Speaker 05

  I love him.

• 1:32:51Patrick Bet-David?

  This is, as much as we're joking, this is so important. As much as we're joking, this is so important. Men need this. As much as we're joking, this is so important for guys to have guys to just sit down and talk to, to know you are going through similar issues that other men are as well. You're not alone. Marriage is tough. Being a man, you know, paying bills, taking care of yourself, health, finances, economy, kids, all that stuff. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work and the pressure's on you to perform. So that's why you need the company to be around other men. Okay. All right, let's go to the next story here. Rob, can you pull up Ben Affleck's clip? Folks, watch this here. So Ben has got a movie coming out with.

• 1:33:31Speaker 05

  Is it already out?

• 1:33:32Patrick Bet-David?

  One of my favorite directors, I think it's coming out this weekend. Gavin O'Connor, stud of a guy. Accountant two, okay? And this is Ben Affleck being asked about California and the movie industry. Watch what he said. He did not hold back. Go for it, Rob.

• 1:33:48Speaker 04

  Places will have like better exchange rates or or tax rebate deals that are meant to lure this industry there because they understand how stimulative it is for their economies. I think part of the problem with California is that they came to take this industry for granted a little bit. Now, I will say the current governor, I think doubled the tax rebate amount in bulk available, but the percentage that you get back in terms of the actual budget doesn't compete with places like England, which is why you see a lot of these big, huge movies shoot in the UK, or even, you know, I mean, there've been New Mexico and Louisiana and Texas and Massachusetts and New Jersey, a lot, Georgia. Yeah, people give these tax rebates and they've been sort of controversial, but one of the things that happens is that it does cause people who, where

• 1:34:33Speaker 04

  this used to be the center of that, to move to other states for work, and it's really the technicians, the crew, that make or break your movie. And you need the best people, you need good people. I, as a director, I know that to be true. And so if people move away, you know, that really hurts the the industry.

• 1:34:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, thoughts?

• 1:34:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there you go. It's it's it's simple. It's choice. It's a freedom of choice. And if it's a constrictive environment, full of regulations and taxations, and Georgia or New Mexico or any of those other states, or England, says, hey, you know what, if you want to film movies here, we got a special tax rebate for you, because we know you provide a lot of temporary employment, project-based employment, it's kind of seasonal for your movie, and we'd love to have you here. You know, have at it. And we got a lot of wonderful scenery here in London to go film, you know, wherever you want to be. And then there you have it. And so

• 1:35:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, what is that clip you just pulled up?

• 1:35:28Adam Sosnick?

  Vinny just sent me this.

• 1:35:30Speaker 05

  This is Rob, this is Rob Lowe and the actor from, you know him.

• 1:35:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:35Speaker 05

  Parks and Rec. Yes, Parks and Rec. He goes in on on Hollywood and how it's cheaper to bring hundred Americans to Ireland, then go right across the Fox lot and go there. This is, I think, this is like a month ago. This is actually a really good clip. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:35:50Adam Sosnick?

  Or there. It's cheaper to bring a hundred American people Wow. to Ireland than to walk across the lot Right. and Fox. Right. Pass the sound stages and do it there. Wow. Crazy. Do you think if we shot Parks right now, we would be in Budapest? 100% we would be. We'd be in Budapest. We would be It's so weird. There's nothing shoots in Los Angeles. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. I had a, my, you know, my next show, already Done scripts, deals closed. Yeah. And they said, we're shooting this in New York. And I said, I'm not moving to New York to do this. Yeah. And then it went away. The show's done. I'm not doing it. Wow.

• 1:36:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:36:22Speaker 05

  Finished, not doing it, not shooting.

• 1:36:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Just because he doesn't want to go to New York.

• 1:36:27Speaker 05

  Because, yeah, he doesn't want to move the whole, yeah. Do I be, uh, is that, is that it, Rob?

• 1:36:32Adam Sosnick?

  Well, if Trump hears about this, he's not going to be a fan of this because he's trying to keep jobs in America. Okay. He's going to put tariffs on every other country out there.

• 1:36:40Speaker 05

  It's just like the states.

• 1:36:40Adam Sosnick?

  They're trying to export these actors to other countries.

• 1:36:43Speaker 05

  Exactly. This is an industry saying exactly what individuals have been saying, like what I said and what Pat said when we left California and went to Texas. And then we went from Texas to here. We weren't upset with Texas. There's just tremendous opportunity down here. And we had some businesses that were getting built. So that's it.

• 1:37:03Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. Yeah. And the, the Hollywood monopoly on the acting and film industry has completely bursted. What did it say over here? That 58% decline, Film LA reported, an annual production from 21, 2021 to 2024. So they no longer have a stranglehold on this.

• 1:37:23Speaker 05

  Oh, it's over.

• 1:37:23Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, you know, when, when you add up Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Paramount, this, that, the other, social media, Instagram, uh, not to mention YouTube, Spotify, everything there. Now you have so many options on how to make movies these days and how to put your, get your, uh, distribution out there. Um, and then you add on a little bit of Hollywood, literal fairy dust, go woke, go broke. You're going to look into other options. There's other competition. You get tax rebates that Ben Affleck was talking about. You have states like, um, Georgia, you have, um, you have states like, um, Louisiana, New Mexico, I believe. They're going to incentivize you to basically shoot elsewhere. So you no longer need to be in Hollywood. And either they're going to adapt or they're going to die.

• 1:38:06Speaker 05

  And what, and you nailed that. Everybody, even Dennis Quaid said it. He's bragging about Texas becoming the new Hollywood. And it's like, bro, California used to be the drink, Texas.

• 1:38:16Adam Sosnick?

  Texas.

• 1:38:17Speaker 05

  And, and Georgia, like you said, uh, Georgia taxes are.

• 1:38:19Adam Sosnick?

  Spaghetti western?

• 1:38:20Speaker 05

  Taxes are lower, the regulations are looser. And they're actually welcome. But bro, you know I blame California, the governor, Tom. California used to be the beating heart of the, and it's Hollywood, California. Okay, now it's just crime, no water, no leadership, no nothing.

• 1:38:35Adam Sosnick?

  Hollywood weird.

• 1:38:36Speaker 05

  Hollywood, he taxed the industry to death and then he let crime and homelessness run wild. He pushed everybody out and even you, you mean to tell me taking a hundred people and that's a big production. And you guys can't shoot here, you have to fly the whole crew to Ireland, bro, instead of going to Fox? That is, dude, that is not good, man. It's, it's, it's.

• 1:38:54Adam Sosnick?

  That's why Conor McGregor is very upset. He's calling it an invasion.

• 1:38:56Speaker 05

  Texas is the new Hollywood because California became Detroit with a coastline. That's what happened.

• 1:39:01Adam Sosnick?

  Whoa.

• 1:39:02Speaker 05

  That's what happened, Tom.

• 1:39:03Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a T-shirt. And by the way, did you guys see Jeremy Gray was at the White House?

• 1:39:06Speaker 05

  I saw Vince Vaughn. You see that?

• 1:39:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Jeremy Gray, Vince Vaughn from Wedding Crashers.

• 1:39:10Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, Jeremy Gray. He's a maple serum conglomerate.

• 1:39:13Speaker 05

  I thought, I thought this was a joke. That's hilarious.

• 1:39:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he went to the White House. Look at him.

• 1:39:18Speaker 05

  We're all happy he is.

• 1:39:19Patrick Bet-David?

  One of the best, one of my favorite, favorite actors of all time.

• 1:39:23Speaker 05

  Period.

• 1:39:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this guy.

• 1:39:24Speaker 05

  Period.

• 1:39:24Patrick Bet-David?

  He's just so likeable.

• 1:39:25Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:39:26Patrick Bet-David?

  He is so likeable. We watched Old School the other day with, with the boys. I told him, I said, listen, guys, you can't go to school and tell them your dad let you watch Old School.

• 1:39:33Speaker 05

  Period.

• 1:39:34Patrick Bet-David?

  But I'll announce it on the podcast.

• 1:39:35Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:39:37Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, I just got one thing to tell you, man. You're my boy, Blue.

• 1:39:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You're my boy.

• 1:39:40Adam Sosnick?

  I just want you to let you know. By the way, Vince Vaughn, you know, you're saying he's one of your favorite actors. You know where he is in my, on my list? Numero uno. That's my guy. I love Vince Vaughn. I had the chance to interview him. I was like, hey, I work with PBD. He's like, okay, yeah, he knew exactly where, where the hell's Vince Vaughn these days?

• 1:39:56Speaker 05

  He's chilling.

• 1:39:57Adam Sosnick?

  Talk about, I mean.

• 1:39:58Speaker 05

  He's chilling. He doesn't need to work anymore. He's good.

• 1:40:00Adam Sosnick?

  What do you mean he doesn't need to work more? We need him working.

• 1:40:02Speaker 05

  No, I'm, I know, but.

• 1:40:03Adam Sosnick?

  It's not about needing.

• 1:40:03Speaker 05

  Pat, what were your thoughts on the?

• 1:40:04Adam Sosnick?

  But, but, but let me just say something about Vince Vaughn. He got shamed, I think, for shaking Trump's hand.

• 1:40:11Speaker 05

  Oh, well.

• 1:40:11Adam Sosnick?

  In 2020.

• 1:40:13Speaker 05

  That's what.

• 1:40:13Adam Sosnick?

  And he was allegedly run out of Hollywood. I don't even think he's a hardcore conservative. I think he was just like a libertarian. Right? Didn't you say that he's sort of a libertarian, PBD?

• 1:40:22Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:40:22Adam Sosnick?

  But. Newsflash, 50% of the country identifies with the Republican Party or the MAGA movement, or as conservative. So to shame somebody for who they voted for is very un-American. This is that video right here of him simply talking to the President of the United States, and that very attractive woman who may or may not be Melania right there.

• 1:40:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, it is.

• 1:40:42Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. But the fact that he was shamed and allegedly run out of Hollywood for shaking Trump's hand is so un-American and it's despicable.

• 1:40:51Speaker 05

  What are your thoughts on Netflix saying it and the whole?

• 1:40:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Look, at the end of the day, numbers makes you honest. Numbers will make you honest. It will. Because now he's a director. So a director, you're no longer just an actor. So a director now has a different pain. You need to find talent. As an actor, they just pay you go do the work. You're like, I don't give a shit. It's your problem. It's not my problem. Once you become a director, it's all your problem. So he has graduated from being a, you know, just a salesperson to a sales leader to the CEO of the business that's the director. No, you need to, you need help. And, you know, he's going through it right now. But let me read the story here in California. Gavin Newsom catching heat again as LA's 2028 Olympics in peril. Rob, do you have this clip?

• 1:41:37Tom Ellsworth?

  So I actually pulled the clip. This is from January. I don't remember, I don't know if you guys remember this, but this was Governor Newsom talking about why they needed to rebuild California during the wildfires and how it ties back to the Olympics.

• 1:41:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this Vinnie or is this Gavin Newsom?

• 1:41:50Speaker 05

  This one was Gavin.

• 1:41:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go ahead.

• 1:41:52Adam Sosnick?

  Of course, the next several years, Los Angeles will be host to the World Cup, and then the Super Bowl, and then the Olympics. With this rebuilding effort needing to take place, is LA going to be ready for all of those global events?

• 1:42:04Patrick Bet-David?

  My humble position, and it's not just being naively optimistic, that only reinforces the imperative of moving quickly, doing in the spirit of collaboration, cooperation. President of the United States, Donald Trump, to his credit, was helpful in getting the Olympics to the United States of America to get it down here in LA. We thank him for that. This is an opportunity for him to shine, for this country to shine, for California and this community to shine. The opportunity with all of that, and all that opportunity and that pride and spirit that comes from not just hosting those three iconic games and venues, but also the opportunity, I think, to rebuild. That's why we're already organizing.

• 1:42:48Speaker 05

  We already have

• 1:42:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at his hand.

• 1:42:50Speaker 05

  Looking, reimagining LA 2.0 and we're making sure everyone's included, not just

• 1:42:55Patrick Bet-David?

  So let me do this to you.

• 1:42:55Tom Ellsworth?

  He's saving money. He no longer needs these sign language.

• 1:42:58Patrick Bet-David?

  The Olympics 2028 financial meltdown could cost, with costs rising by $267 million and major sponsors like Salesforce, Toyota, Panasonic withdrawing, leaving only Delta Airlines and Comcast. As Eric Sheehan of Olympics LA stated, "It's an unacceptable gamble of public money and everything that we were told about these Olympics from the start has turned out not to be true." Gavin Newsom rebrand of the Recovery Games drew criticism with the People's City Council claiming it will be used as a, as an excuse to funnel money to the Olympics policing and surveillance. While conservative, Trish Reagan posted Gavin Newsom claims the coming Olympics is why LA must be rebuilt.

• 1:43:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Is he high? Transportation delays threaten chaos with LA's metros 28 plan projects reduced to 10 and complete by 2028. Tom, your thoughts?

• 1:43:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, this goes back to 2017. Vinny, the Olympics is about competition.

• 1:43:58Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:43:59Tom Ellsworth?

  How many bidders was LA competing against in the final round to get the Olympics for 2028? Summer Olympics?

• 1:44:08Speaker 05

  Two.

• 1:44:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Zero, because the others had backed out. The others that rendered, I think it was Budapest, Hamburg and Rome. They backed out and Paris already had 24 locked up against the competition, one of which was LA and then nobody wanted it. You know why? Because if you go take a look at the, when the Olympics were in Greece and you go back and take a look at what all those things look like, they spent billions of dollars, they built all these facilities, the facilities are now rotting. These little state, "Oh, we're going to bring all this stuff here." London, London, before and after the Olympics, you ready for this? Tourism dropped the year and the whole

• 1:44:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Hotels complained about it before and after, you know why? Because the hotels did all these refurbishments and upgrades, getting ready for the Olympics and all the people that would be there for the Olympics? And then they raised their room rates to help cover some of the improvements they made to their hotels. And then people didn't come to London, so London tourism by the numbers was down before and after the Olympics. Having the Olympics usually costs a ton of money and you don't get the benefit to the local businesses or local infrastructure. And the last point that Pat made in there, when LA won the bid in the please take it, we'll give you about a billion dollars, which is what the IOC said. Please take it, just say yes, we'll give you about a billion dollars. And guess what?

• 1:45:36Tom Ellsworth?

  They committed to all these transportation projects and that 28, 10 out of 28 are probably going to be finished. The other transportation, wait, you have terrible traffic, don't worry, we have 28 projects we're going to do here. Well, right now, the original budget was 5.3 billion. The loss of sponsorship and what they think that the, um, uh, the media is going to be, they believe they're sitting right now at about $4 billion. With tickets and everything. Losses. And, and, and, ready for this? Here it comes, here it comes. The current budget estimated for everything they need is 6.9 billion. So they're estimating right now that it's probably two and a half billion dollar gap they have right now. Oh, man.

• 1:46:19Tom Ellsworth?

  And lastly, the Dems, including Karen Bass, who have now pulled their comments back to sit with Gavin Newsom. They were concerned about police militarization. You know what that means? The homeless and everything else, they have to clean up the city because the entire world will be there with their cell phones, taking pictures of LA and they want it to look good. Do you remember what the mayor of San Francisco did when he had the international council of mayors? Willie Brown shipped out all the homeless to Sacramento and they, they were hitchhiking, coming back in, but he cleaned up the city by artificially. shipping people out and they got a lot of heat for it. So there's people saying we're worried

• 1:47:02Tom Ellsworth?

  about police militarization. Wait, why? Because they know it's a hellhole and they know the cops have to crack down on homelessness. They gotta ship homeless and they gotta crack down on things. So it'll look good and be nice for the 14 days of the 38th Summer Olympiad or whatever it is. And you now have organizations in LA, as reported by the Daily News, that are saying, you're talking about tearing down homes for some of these facilities. It's called eminent domain. This is, this is a, I'll say it, this is a shit show. And it was, now remember, Eric Garcetti led the charge and Trump supported and said, hey, would be nice to have it in LA. Trump's just given support with his voice. He's not the guy Eric Garcetti said, we have a plan.

• 1:47:47Tom Ellsworth?

  We're gonna do all this. And now the guy standing there now, well, we're rebuilding LA anyway because of all these fires. We'll just finish the rebuild and we'll call it the, the, the, the rebuilding year, the, the, the summer of rebuild. And so Newsom deserves all the heat he's getting because all their cities refuse the Olympics because what you end up afterwards is none of the benefits you thought you'd get.

• 1:48:12Speaker 05

  Is there any way to say, you know what, we're two, what, two years out, Tom? Two and a half years out? We're, we're, we're almost three, how much? $3 billion short? How about, we're sorry. There's not, we don't have, California has no business having games right now. That's my attitude. Can they just say, listen, we saw we won the bid, but we can't afford anything right now?

• 1:48:33Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I, I want to know what, what's gonna happen. And I think, you know what? I think, I think what's, by the way, there are Democrats upset at Newsom because they are going to Washington trying to get grants from our tax money to, for the Olympic shortfall, the same week that Gavin Newsom says, I'm suing the president.

• 1:48:54Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:48:55Tom Ellsworth?

  It was the same week.

• 1:48:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:48:56Tom Ellsworth?

  They were in Washington talking about getting money.

• 1:49:00Adam Sosnick?

  I'm actually excited for the, uh, the Olympics. When was the last time the United States hosted the Olympics? I think it was in 1996, Atlanta, Georgia, I want to say. Was it Salt Lake City Winter Olympics? Yeah, who cares about the Winter Olympics, Tom? We're talking about men's sports here, bro, not fucking figure skating. Sorry about that. Um, but I'm excited for the Olympics. I mean, I'm sure that there's gonna be a perpetual, uh... mishaps and drama and screw ups in California.

• 1:49:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you gonna get to something?

• 1:49:28Adam Sosnick?

  That's what they do.

• 1:49:29Patrick Bet-David?

  So there's no story? You have an opinion?

• 1:49:32Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I'm excited.

• 1:49:33Patrick Bet-David?

  That's it.

• 1:49:34Adam Sosnick?

  For the Olympics to be in America.

• 1:49:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:49:37Adam Sosnick?

  Cause I'm a proud American.

• 1:49:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I got you.

• 1:49:39Adam Sosnick?

  And I like patriotism.

• 1:49:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm waiting for a point I'm like, uh.

• 1:49:43Adam Sosnick?

  You didn't even let me get to anything.

• 1:49:45Patrick Bet-David?

  It took you 17 seconds to say you're excited four times.

• 1:49:48Adam Sosnick?

  I'm gonna call out anybody that doesn't make their point in three seconds, moving forward.

• 1:49:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Okay, so let's go to the next.

• 1:49:53Adam Sosnick?

  What's your point, Vinny? Let's go.

• 1:49:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he'll make it. He'll make it. Hang tight.

• 1:49:56Adam Sosnick?

  20 minutes later.

• 1:49:58Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. Rob, can you do me a favor?

• 1:50:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Nancy Mace story is.

• 1:50:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have the Conor McGregor clip? Do you have the Conor McGregor clip? Conor McGregor blasts mass migration as a genocide in our, in Ireland, okay? So let's see what this is all about. Rob, this is the clip?

• 1:50:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 1:50:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead and play the clip.

• 1:50:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Off Ireland. Never in a million years. But if they're paying foreigners to have kids while you can't afford to have kids, if they're shaking you down with the armed police, but allowing foreigners a pass. Yeah. If they're paying to fix foreigners' cars but not yours, they hate you and they're trying to kill you, right? It's an erasure. It's an attempted erasure of our, of our, of our people. That is it. I could have went, I could have went all that way in the White House. I had to climb, we had to go incrementally up, right? You go in, hey, it's, you talk about a genocide. This is a genocide of our people. Obviously.

• 1:50:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and then, Rob, can you do me a favor? While he's talking about this,

• 1:50:59Patrick Bet-David?

  there is a clip that's in the, um, in the, in my notes, if you go to it, it's a clip about what's happened. Vinny, I'll come to you first. Who, who, who had opinions on this one? Was it you?

• 1:51:11Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it was, uh.

• 1:51:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me see what this is. Conor McGregor. Uh, Adam, you had some thoughts on this? And I had a clip I wanna play for you guys. That you gotta see. Go for it, Adam.

• 1:51:20Adam Sosnick?

  Well, there's another clip that I would actually wanna show where he talks about, I don't care about, he's like, I'm not center-left. He's like, I'm not left-wing, right-wing. He's like, I don't even know what that means. He goes, I'm centered. I'm on the ground. I'm two toes down on the ground. I stand for what I believe. It's such a great clip. Cause it basically shows, listen, I don't give a shit what you call me, left-wing, right-wing, whatever you wanna call me. I stand for what I believe and I stand two feet down and I, and I'll double down on what I believe. He's like, I'm a family man. I'm family first. I'm Ireland first. Is this the clip?

• 1:51:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:49Adam Sosnick?

  Go ahead.

• 1:51:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it, man.

• 1:51:50Tom Ellsworth?

  CNN has described you as the leader and I'm.

• 1:51:53Patrick Bet-David?

  of Ireland's far right.

• 1:51:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Who has?

• 1:51:57Patrick Bet-David?

  CNN, which is a news channel in the United States.

• 1:52:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Far left, far right, all of these terminologies mean nothing to me. I'm a family man. I'm an employer of the country, you know, I'm a supporter of many people. And I care about my land and the safety of its citizens and the prosperity of its citizens. I want preference. I want peace, preference and prosperity for the citizens of Ireland, for my people. And isn't that, isn't that fair for our country, men and women?

• 1:52:28Patrick Bet-David?

  It is.

• 1:52:28Tom Ellsworth?

  It is our country. Ireland is for Ireland.

• 1:52:30Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 1:52:31Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, and, and that is it. I'm not right, left, you know, I, I, I, I've. I feel I'm centered, grounded. That is what I feel. In fact, I ground myself every day. I walk out and I ground myself every day, barefoot in the grass, barefoot is king. I fought in the octagons in the cages all around the countries of Ireland. And then into the United States of America, barefoot. So I am a grounded man, either left, right.

• 1:52:57Adam Sosnick?

  Doubt Conor McGregor all you want. But if Trump did anything, he basically burst the bubble that you need to just be a perfectly polished and politician and say exactly what everyone always says. F that. This guy's a fighter. He's a winner. He's a brilliant speaker. You know, Trump, after he got shot in the ear, came up and said, fight, fight, fight. This guy's a freaking fighter and he's fighting for his country of Ireland.

• 1:53:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, watch this clip, guys. Watch this clip. This is, this is what Ireland is worried about.

• 1:53:28Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:53:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go ahead and play this clip, Rob. Go ahead.

• 1:53:31Adam Sosnick?

  Mayor of London is Muslim. The mayor of Birmingham is a Muslim. The mayor of Leeds is Muslim. The mayor of Blackburn is Muslim. The mayor of Sheffield is Muslim. The mayor of Oxford is a Muslim. The mayor of Luton is a Muslim. The mayor of Oldham is a Muslim. The mayor of Rochdale is a Muslim. All of this was achieved by only four million Muslims out of the 66 million people in England. Today, in England, there are over 3,000 mosques. There are over 130 Sharia courts in England.

• 1:54:08Adam Sosnick?

  And there are more than fifty Sharia councils. Seventy-eight percent of Muslim women do not work and receive state support and free accommodation. Sixty-three percent of Muslims do not work and receive state support and free housing. State-supported Muslim families have an average of six to eight children, who all receive free accommodation. Every school in the UK is required to teach about Islam. The number-one most common baby name in England is Mohammed. This is not immigration, this is invasion. The mayor of London is Muslim.

• 1:54:52Speaker 05

  I mean, I was just looking at the numbers. The Ireland saw one hundred forty-nine thousand two hundred migrants and sixty-nine thousand immigrants, resulting in a net migration of seventy-nine point three. Foreign-born population is one point two million by the end of the year. Crime is up almost four percent. Sexual offenses rose to eight percent compared to the previous year. And, yeah, I mean, they're getting flooded with, you know, these migrants under the lie of, you know, compassion. Sounds familiar, we had the same situation here, but it's not compassion, it's control. And they're stuffing the hotels with people, the crime is up, like I said, the numbers are up. My thing, and the women don't feel safe. What, what is, like, my question is, the current sitting government, what is the purpose of letting it happen?

• 1:55:36Speaker 05

  I mean, we know, we know why it was happening, happening here, for the votes and all that stuff, and they didn't give it, they want to change the, the voting block and the dynamic. I'm just curious, so what's Ireland's excuse? What are they, what are they, what is the point? Who's, who's, who's in charge right now in Ireland? Who's the person that's leading it?

• 1:55:51Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you saying? Like, why are they, if they're seeing what's going on with UK, why are you doing the same thing?

• 1:55:55Speaker 05

  Exactly, what, why, and who's behind it? Who's giving it the okay to just have all these people? Because it is, listen, it's not immigration, it's an invasion.

• 1:56:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Probably what Conor is talking about. And, and by the way, it's purely matching values. Here's, Rob, this is a Islam makes you defend, again, can you play this clip? What's this? Oh, okay, yeah.

• 1:56:13Speaker 05

  Consent to your six-year-old daughter marrying a fifty-four-year-old man.

• 1:56:20Speaker 05

  My six-year-old daughter. Your six-year-old daughter?

• 1:56:23Speaker 02

  The fact that you haven't instantly said no is really concerning.

• 1:56:26Speaker 05

  It is really concerning.

• 1:56:28Speaker 02

  The fact that you have to think this over is terrifying.

• 1:56:30Speaker 05

  It is terrifying.

• 1:56:31Speaker 02

  It is terrifying that you might even...

• 1:56:33Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:56:34Speaker 02

  When it... no.

• 1:56:35Speaker 05

  Would you marry... would you allow your six-year-old daughter to marry a 54-year-old man? No. Would you? Hell no.

• 1:56:41Speaker 02

  I would slay any man who has tested that.

• 1:56:44Speaker 05

  Now, would you allow your six-year-old daughter... see how quick that was? Would you allow your six-year-old daughter to marry a 54-year-old man?

• 1:56:51Patrick Bet-David?

  If it was the Prophet Muhammad, Alaihissalatu Wasala.

• 1:56:53Speaker 05

  Do you advocate for changing the law that would allow six-year-olds to consent to marriage?

• 1:56:59Patrick Bet-David?

  In this country?

• 1:57:00Speaker 05

  Yes. Do I advocate for it? Don't answer it, don't answer it. Don't answer it.

• 1:57:08Speaker 05

  Why is he embarrassed to answer that question? Everyone is mine. Alright. Let me ask you this question. Do you think Saudi Arabia should allow six-year-olds to get married?

• 1:57:25Speaker 05

  I have to say no.

• 1:57:28Speaker 05

  Some point we'll come across. Guys, this is not a hard question. It's a simple yes or no. Do you think that Saudi Arabia should allow six-year-old children to marry?

• 1:57:40Adam Sosnick?

  Yes and no.

• 1:57:40Speaker 05

  Yes and no. Ladies and gentlemen, that should shock you. He has stood here and said that six-year-old children should be allowed to marry. That is a problem. And it is a problem that emerges out of the example of Muhammad. And that is exactly why, as a Christian, I reject the example of Muhammad and am a follower of Jesus Christ.

• 1:58:08Patrick Bet-David?

  See, and by the way, if 98% of your country has bought into that mindset, it works. Meaning, if you're a Muslim country, Muslim nation, and that's what it is. But if you try to bring that mindset into another country and try to convert and change their culture and bring that to them, that's a problem. You know, there's a guy that's being interviewed and he says, "So, what about if we send a bunch of Christians to your Muslim country to start converting you guys to Christianity?" He says, "You can't do that. That's not allowed." Says, "Our country would never allow that." "We would never allow... you guys allow that. We would never allow that." "Bumilur."

• 1:58:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:58:48Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the part where I think more and more people are starting to realize through common sense, some of this stuff just doesn't make sense. Some of this stuff is a little bit crazy. Connor is getting a little bit done with it himself and he's trying to do it in his country. Tom, do you have any thoughts on this?

• 1:59:03Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I think you accurate it. You know, it's a one-way street. You can't come here and offer to teach us, we want to go there and look at what they've organized. They get elected into government and now they're favoring themselves of free accommodation and supporting this. And look, and look at the generation they're creating. The average with six kids, there you go. You know what? Count, count 18 years. Count 18 years from right now and it's, it's over. They've, there is a, if you, if you look at tourism books and things like that, they call it Londonistan. Because there's so many, you know, the population of Muslims there is so great. And that's it.

• 1:59:47Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's a generation of children and generational change, just natural. These people are gonna grow old and die and then these people have had one kid, these people have had six. So what does that population look like 18 years from now? It's over.

• 2:00:03Adam Sosnick?

  Well, it's the Islamization of Europe. And I'm not talking about secularist Islam. I think there's awesome people out there. I have many friends that are Muslim. I'm talking about the Islamists and the jihadists. And what they want to do is they want to infiltrate and then they want to occupy countries. Why is it that only white Christian countries are the countries that get called out if you're not being more inclusive? So if you go to China, it's all Chinese people, it's all Chinese politicians. Same thing in Russia, same thing in Japan, same thing in Saudi, same thing in Iran, same thing in Brazil. But except for white Christian countries in Europe, also including Canada, possibly

• 2:00:47Adam Sosnick?

  the United States, whether it's Ireland, whether it's Scotland, whether it's Sweden, whether it's Denmark, whether it's the UK, I can't tell you how many times I hear people saying that the UK is falling, London is falling. You're seeing that example right there about how many...

• 2:01:02Adam Sosnick?

  Muslim politicians are in the UK. Go ahead and reverse it. And then how many Christian? There's zero Jewish politicians anywhere in the Middle East. But how many Christian politicians are in any of the Middle Eastern Muslim countries? I would argue that maybe, maybe Lebanon, which used to have a decent Christian population. And I want to say that like their, their president has to be Christian. But other than that, you know, maybe Egypt a little bit. But if you go down the list, cop to Christian in, um, Egypt. In Egypt. But if you go down the list between Syria, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, the list goes on and on and on and on.

• 2:01:43Adam Sosnick?

  You're not going to find anybody that are Muslim that is in charge of the government there. So even if you go to Israel, people don't know this about Israel. 20% of Israel, 20% of Israel are Palestinian citizens. They can be in the government. They can have jobs. They're in the army. They are full on citizens. I challenge you to find one Jew, not 1%, who's in Palestine, who's in Afghanistan, who's in Syria, not one. They've all been kicked out. And you know what? They're coming for the Christians next. So the Middle East used to be a, an area where Jews, Christians, Muslims, everyone was there. Not anymore.

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• 2:03:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, so next story I want to go to before we wrap up. Rob, can you pull up that Gary Player video? Tom, I don't know if you've seen this or not. So, to the people that don't know Gary Player, how would you describe who Gary Player is, Tom? Is it fair to say he's one of the best golfers of all time?

• 2:03:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Absolutely, he's one of only four guys that's won the Grand Slam of the four majors.

• 2:03:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so here's Gary Player. This is specifically going to those of you guys that you have a trade you want to improve, or you're a business owner, you're trying to find a way to get better in the marketplace. Look what Gary Player says here about Tiger Woods. Go for it, Rob.

• 2:03:57Adam Sosnick?

  Look at Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods had his career ruined, completely ruined. Tiger Woods won 14 majors. And then he wins, the 14th major was the US Open at Pebble Beach. He won by 15 shots. You know what that's like? It's like running the 100 meters in 7 seconds. The next week he's having a lesson from a man who I don't know if he played in the Masters, could break 80. Couldn't. But he's having a lesson from this guy.

• 2:04:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:30Adam Sosnick?

  And then he goes to another guy who couldn't break probably 85 in the Masters, with the pressure, or the British Open, or the PGA, on the final day. And he's having lessons from them. Why did Tiger do that? He was so good, but I understand, he wanted to get better. But if he just went along and never changed, he would have won minimum 22, maybe more. He would have gone down as the greatest athlete the world had ever seen, man or woman, in the planet. But he made the wrong decision, and it's very easy to do, because we're all trying to get better.

• 2:05:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, how do you process this?

• 2:05:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I have a lot of respect for the Black Knight. That was Gary Player's nickname. And...

• 2:05:09Speaker 05

  He's clearly white, Tom.

• 2:05:11Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, but you see the logo on his shirt?

• 2:05:12Speaker 05

  No.

• 2:05:13Tom Ellsworth?

  That's his brand.

• 2:05:14Speaker 05

  Oh, my bad.

• 2:05:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Black Knight. They called him the Black Knight.

• 2:05:17Speaker 05

  Got it.

• 2:05:18Tom Ellsworth?

  That was his... He wore black on the golf course, that's what they called him, okay? And I think he's right, because if you look when Tiger came up, and he had a couple major injuries. One, he started training, because he...

• 2:05:35Tom Ellsworth?

  And trained with the Navy SEALs and he went to an intensive Navy SEAL training. And unfortunately, he suffered a big time knee injury and concealed it. And so Tiger got distracted and wanted to go train with the SEALs, A. And B, he did move from his coaches and there were chapters of his life where the coach he had, he was at kind of a plateau. And he had a falling out with the first coach. This coach had a big ego and was sort of trading on Tiger. And Tiger didn't like that. I don't blame him.

• 2:06:16Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, it's like you, you, you have a, people understand, I don't need to make metaphors, right? People know who the success is and then other people are like trading on that success, kind of chasing you around like remoras, the way they chase sharks. And I believe Tiger would have had far more majors if he had stayed. He had such insane talent. And if he had stuck with that thread and not been distracted and got hurt, he got really hurt at a Navy SEAL training. And if he had not done that, I think things would have been fine because people have talked about the car accident.

• 2:06:56Patrick Bet-David?

  But specific, now what I'm, what I'm asking about is, I'm not asking about the Navy SEAL stuff. Specific to what Gary is saying here, taking advice from somebody that shot an 80 or an 85. Okay. And having that person give you counsel on what to do, how do you process that?

• 2:07:14Adam Sosnick?

  He wants to know what your point is, Tom.

• 2:07:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I, I process it very simply. I think he should have stuck with the coaches that were proven. And sometimes it's like the latest coach and you think, okay, I'm going to work with this, I'm going to work with that. And I agree with Gary Player. I don't think some of those later coaches were, I mean, I look now. You can look at some of those later coaches now and see who they're coaching. And I think it speaks for itself now. It's like, oh, okay, I get it. And I, I think moving to these other coaches, I don't think it helped him. I, I agree with Gary on that. I also agreed with Phil Mickelson because Nike was used, was the sponsor. Nike got into golf equipment and had Tiger using their equipment.

• 2:07:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Tiger was winning and using equipment that was inferior to what the other top five players in the world were using. At the time. The Nike equipment was inferior and he was winning.

• 2:08:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, this guy was a special guy, but I, Adam, go ahead. You want to say something?

• 2:08:13Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I don't, listen, um, are, are the best professional coaches the best players? I would argue no. You know, Phil Jackson, the greatest NBA coach ever, wasn't one of the best players ever. Either was Pat Riley, Erik Spoelstra, Greg Popovich. So if you want to use the NBA, none of those guys were the greatest coaches. If you want to go into the NFL, Bill Belichick, greatest coach of all time, not a great player. The list goes on and on and on. So in order to coach someone great, you don't need to be great at your sport. You need to be a great coach. You don't necessarily need to be a great player. So I get that Gary Player is one of the greatest golfers alive. By the way, sick name, Gary Player. Go ahead, play on Player.

• 2:08:57Adam Sosnick?

  But I don't necessarily know if I agree with what he's saying. What you need is someone that will tell you the truth, someone that will hold you accountable, someone that will make you do maybe not what you want to do. You needed a leader. You don't necessarily need somebody who did what you did because nobody was able to do what Tiger Woods did. Nobody. Unless he's getting Arnold Palmer, the famous drink, or he's getting Jack Nicklaus to coach him. Nobody's going to be on Tiger's level. Nobody's on Michael Jordan's level. Nobody's on Tom Brady's level. So I understand where you're getting your counsel from is important. But when you're one of the GOATs, nobody's going to be on your level.

• 2:09:34Patrick Bet-David?

  The only difference I would say is the following.

• 2:09:36Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 2:09:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Coaches also have track records. Who have you built?

• 2:09:42Patrick Bet-David?

  So who have you built? If you've built somebody, great. For example, in tennis, who was that guy that ended up building IMG? What's his name? Nick Volatieri.

• 2:09:52Adam Sosnick?

  Nick Volatieri built Insta too.

• 2:09:53Patrick Bet-David?

  What reputation does he have for building tennis players?

• 2:09:55Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:09:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Top notch.

• 2:09:57Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 2:09:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Right? You can go through a list of names to see what they've produced.

• 2:10:02Adam Sosnick?

  Who was our buddy that was on the podcast?

• 2:10:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Who was that?

• 2:10:04Adam Sosnick?

  A buddy that coached the Williams sisters.

• 2:10:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, Mark, um.

• 2:10:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Rick Macy.

• 2:10:08Adam Sosnick?

  Rick Macy.

• 2:10:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Right. He was in a movie.

• 2:10:10Adam Sosnick?

  You may not see what I see, but Rick Macy.

• 2:10:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So the point becoming that you have credibility with the coach that's giving you feedback versus taking it from somebody else. That was a very interesting observation from Gary Player. Because whether you like golf or not, there was a moment where Tiger, what he was doing made no sense. Whenever a player makes you watch a sport that you've never watched before, you're a transcendent player. You're a revolutionary player. And Tiger was exactly that. Tiger got middle listeners to watch golf.

• 2:10:42Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 2:10:43Patrick Bet-David?

  We don't watch golf. We run away from bunkers. We have flashbacks.

• 2:10:47Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:10:48Patrick Bet-David?

  We get scared of bunkers. I mean, we don't do that kind of stuff.

• 2:10:50Adam Sosnick?

  You guys end up in the sand trap, though, for some reason. You guys feel very comfortable.

• 2:10:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we're not gonna do it. It's just like, we're not gonna do something like that. But the point here is, you know, I like the way he put it down and what he said and where he's at now. The reality of it is, you're one good advice away from your life changing. Dude, you're one bad advice from completely having a massive setback. And you have to always be aware of that. No matter what phase of your life you're in. You're a kid, you're an adult, you're a family man, you're married, you're single, you're a businessman. Always make sure there's credibility of the person that you're taking counsel from. Anyways, gang, great podcast. We got SLS this week at Mar-a-Lago. Sales leadership, some of those of you guys that are coming. Cannot wait to see all of you guys. We'll start Thursday morning. It's the best session, the CO session when we started.

• 2:11:36Patrick Bet-David?

  All of you guys that placed the order for the Yetis, there's still some left. And anybody that places an order over a hundred dollars, remember that we send the culture book with any orders above a hundred dollars. A bunch of you guys have already placed the order. But be sure to go represent. Yet if future looks bright and tomorrow Andrew Callahan show will be going out Andrew Callahan, Channel 5, he'll be, Rob tomorrow, this is on PBD Podcast.

• 2:12:01Tom Ellsworth?

  We were gonna do it Thursday, but we can put it out tomorrow instead.

• 2:12:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, no, no, put it Thursday.

• 2:12:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Thursday at 9 a.m.

• 2:12:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Thursday 9 a.m. because Thursday we'll be at Mar-a-Lago.

• 2:12:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep, and the link's in the description and in the chat.

• 2:12:10Patrick Bet-David?

  We will not be doing a PBD Podcast this week, but we will come back next week. So enjoy the podcast on Thursday, have a great weekend, we'll do it again next week. God bless everybody. Bye bye, bye bye.

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