WHCD Shooting + Cole Allen's Manifesto | PBD #785

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana break down the attempted assassination at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, where 31-year-old California teacher Cole Allen stormed the Washington Hilton armed with a shotgun, handgun, and knives — sending a 1,052-word "Friendly Federal Assassin" manifesto to his family just 10 minutes before the attack ranking Trump officials as targets — while Obama claimed the motive was "unknown" despite the raving anti-Trump manifesto; and the eerie, now-unavoidable question surrounding Jimmy Kimmel, who just days before the shooting called Melania Trump an "expectant widow" on national television. ------ 👞 THE FLB1's: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6 🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: https://bit.ly/4mFBPpw Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠ 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:14Speaker 00

  The handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 0:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:18Speaker 02

  My son's right there.

• 0:20Speaker 00

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so we got a lot of stuff going on, a lot of stories to cover. Obviously, the White House correspondents, there are no shooting. We have so many things to cover with that, different angles. Zero to Trump being escorted out, zero to other people being escorted out after they heard the gunshot. And this guy, this character, with the stories of him, his sister calling in, telling the manifesto he wrote, then the president going and doing 60 Minutes yesterday, and the question being asked, and calling our nasty, and then Jimmy Kimmel, just a couple of days ago, is doing a spoof, White House Correspondents Dinner type of a thing, and he takes the shot at

• 1:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Melania, saying what Melania looks like, which was absolutely, you know, out of line for him to make a comment like that. And for this to happen at the same hotel that Reagan got shot at, this was the third one that took place with the president, so we have to talk about that. And then, number two, the president pulled out the negotiation of having Whitkoff and, what do you call it, Kushner, going to Islamabad, Pakistan. However, Abbas Al-Rauchi went to Pakistan, then went to Oman, then went to Russia. I think he's meeting with Putin today. Then there's a story that came out about cars, like surveilling you, like effective 2027,

• 1:49Patrick Bet-David?

  you know, apparently, they voted for this, and a lot of Republicans voted for this, and a part of it was MAD. I don't know if you know what MAD is, M-A-D-D. You've heard of MAD? Mothers Against Drunk Drivers. Yeah, Mothers Against Drunk Drivers. So it's kind of like, this is the reason why MAD, this is the reason why they're supporting Republicans did, because we have to protect kids, and what's happening if someone's drinking. There's a lot. And by the way, shout out to Ana Paulina Luna, who was like, "Look, I'm not for this. I think this is a bad idea," but we're going to talk about that with cars. So watch, imagine if they start doing this in 27. Imagine people only buy 2026 cars. And they ask, is this a 27 or 26 model? It's a 27 model. I'm not interested. I only want to buy 26. It'd be interesting because they can't go back. It's only 27 and forward. So California wealth tax,

• 2:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Chamath Apalapetia, who is a very successful businessman, he found something that was being shared in that little wealth tax that they want to do to billionaires. And in there, they realized, this isn't about billionaires. This is about you. They want your money. Not, not the billionaires or millionaires. They're really putting it in there that, hey, if you say yes to this, eventually, we can tax you too. And that's kind of cool. Because we really want your money. It's not that much money for billionaires. The money we want is from everybody in the state of California. We have to address that. By the way, at the White House Correspondents Dinner, apparently Jim Acosta got into a bar fight. Tom's insiders, his, Tom's community, man, they're tight. They told him, they said, what happened at the bar?

• 3:17Patrick Bet-David?

  He called the guy, the guy goes outside the bar, posts a picture saying, I'm waiting for you. All of this happened while Jim is saying, everybody should walk out. If, if the president, you know, reporters have to walk the F out if Trump launches revenge attack at Correspondents Dinner. And then we know what happened there with the revenge attack. The 60-minute interview, there's some other things that was discussed there as well. We'll probably get into that. Trevor Bauer got a no-hitter for the Long Island Ducks. I got a prediction, what I think is going to happen with Trevor Bauer here soon. And maybe I'll make that prediction on the podcast and get myself in trouble again. Don't do it. I'm gonna, I'm gonna do it. Don't do it. I'm gonna do it. And then this whole thing with the blockade, some people are noticing that Trump's not really moving that quickly with the blockade.

• 3:59Patrick Bet-David?

  He's just kind of like, not, not really moving too urgently with Iran. It's like, hey, wait a minute, how come you're not moving that urgently? Well, guess what? The longer that oil sits, the infrastructure may explode in three days, he claims, due to the blockade. So, because you can't just put it on and off like a switch that Humberto was talking about early this morning. So, we'll talk about that. And then, aside from that, we got a couple other things that we have to get through as well. Jamie Raskin said some weird things. And story-wise, you have...

• 4:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Pope Leo, come on guys. Pope Leo takes another shot at the president. I mean, the moment you try to be friendly to this massive 1.4 billion people around the world and Pope goes nice one week, the next week, he probably listened to some hip hop this weekend.

• 4:48Speaker 03

  He definitely did.

• 4:49Patrick Bet-David?

  He probably listened to some Tupac and he's like, you know what, screw it, I'm doubling down on this. And he goes after him. And then Winery, okay? Winery belonging to Ilhan Omar's husband shut down.

• 5:01Speaker 03

  No.

• 5:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Amid financial spotlight.

• 5:03Speaker 03

  Come on.

• 5:04Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a little too much, Vinny.

• 5:05Speaker 03

  I, I don't believe it.

• 5:07Patrick Bet-David?

  And Minnesota lawmakers demand records after Ilhan Omar skips fraud hearings. I don't need to do it. Why would I go to a hearing? You know, she did this podcast with this people that have breakfast and she talks about it on that breakfast podcast.

• 5:21Speaker 03

  Really?

• 5:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Breakfast Club.

• 5:23Adam Sosnick?

  The Breakfast, with your good friend Charlamagne.

• 5:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 5:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, the god.

• 5:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Why Gen Z and millennials might ask for your credit score on a date? Would you ask a credit score on a date? Have you ever been asked for your credit score on a date?

• 5:36Speaker 03

  No.

• 5:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Has a girl ever said, what's your credit score?

• 5:39Speaker 03

  No.

• 5:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Has a girl ever asked you for your credit score?

• 5:42Adam Sosnick?

  They've asked for me to pay the bill, but credit score usually comes up on the third.

• 5:45Speaker 03

  I've had the let me see your bank account once.

• 5:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me see your bank account?

• 5:49Adam Sosnick?

  She didn't say, let me see your bank account.

• 5:51Speaker 03

  She said, show me your.

• 5:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that what they call it nowadays?

• 5:53Speaker 03

  Is it a bank account?

• 5:55Adam Sosnick?

  I want to see that bank account. Hey, show me your bank account.

• 5:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Roth IRA. Come on, you're just trying to get the bag. So every new car, okay, we talked about that. Then Russell Brand, Russell Brand was doing a Bible study with Pierce Morgan and it became the, by the way, just so everybody knows, it became the biggest, most public Bible study of the year. I don't know if there's been a bigger Bible study than this Pope, you know? The Pope of, you know, is taking shots at the president, but you know, at least Pierce sat there and did Bible study with, it took a couple of minutes to get to the right scripture, but.

• 6:29Speaker 03

  He's still turning the pages right now. He's still looking for a rod. No, mate, mate, I'm a fine.

• 6:33Patrick Bet-David?

  It was funny though.

• 6:34Adam Sosnick?

  Did you learn something? I learned something. I didn't know you'd pronounce Isaiah that way.

• 6:37Patrick Bet-David?

  And last but not least, a story by Wall Street Journal, we're all talking to each other less than we did a year ago. Then I got a question I want to ask you guys. I got a question I want to ask you guys.

• 6:48Speaker 03

  I love questions.

• 6:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And then we're going to see where these questions are going to go to. It's not like a. Tricky question, but it's a question I want to ask and I want to give some advice on charities. Something you probably don't typically hear. You know, where people give advice on charity and you know, give money to charities and all this other stuff. Mine's gonna be a slightly a different angle and some people are not gonna be happy about it, but you may want to listen up to it because it has to do with legacy and and and raising the right kids and you know, the right way and how to make sure they don't become spoiled and how to set them up so they win in the future as well. And it has to do specifically with charity because we're going through it today. Uh, there was an article done by this socialist magazine called Forbes. And um, this Forbes, that's a socialist magazine. I don't know if you guys saw that or not. Yep.

• 7:33Patrick Bet-David?

  They took shots at Elon Musk having only given a half a billion dollars to charities. Only. What a shame. And so we have to call them out. Cause uh, the socialist magazine Forbes does a great job at highlighting socialist causes. And they just happened to, you know, the owner, it happens to be 51% out of China, Hong Kong. And so of course they would never write stories to divide America. They would never do such a thing because you know, the reputation there, you would never do such a thing like that to divide. But uh, we will, we will get into that story as well. And aside from that, I don't even know what uh, what I'm driving to today, but I'll get into it here in a minute. Just, oh, there you go. That's what we're doing. By the way, just so you know, I'm telling you guys this. I can't tell you, yesterday I'm at a football game.

• 8:15Patrick Bet-David?

  And a lady pulls up to me, she says, when are you guys gonna get size 14? I'm like, ma'am, we just got size seven. We just got size eight and a half. 14 is coming here soon. We got seven and a half. Says, my husband, I need size 14. My dad comes home from church. We're done eating, we're at the house with Sean and Grace and my dad says, when are you getting size 14? I said, what do you mean size 14? Today at church, somebody saw my value attainment logo. They came to me, they said, are you getting size 14 or not? So I'm like, is there like an epidemic going on with size 14? Who needs shoes? Shaq? Yeah, well, Shaq needs size 22, 23. Wow. But let me tell you, it's exciting stuff that's going on with the shoe. Everywhere I'm going now, people are asking about how come my husband bought it, we were at First Skeptical. Why would somebody like PBD come out with shoes?

• 8:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not a shoe company. Why would you come out with a shoe? And then you go to Italy. to do it. I know you it's designed in Florida and it's got the you know the super foam technology on the bottom of it. Super comfortable. Yes. Every day I've been wearing this thing since September 9th. I've worn the shoe every single day except for eight days. Now I've not worn since September 9th. Just to see what it feels like, what it looks like. Does it tear? Doesn't have any damage. It's the most comfortable thing I wear. And if you haven't yet gotten yourself an FLB shoe, watch this commercial. Hopefully this will persuade you to place an order for yourself, your husband, or your son. Go ahead, Rob. When we set out to create a shoe that blends comfort, function, and luxury, we had the

• 9:40Patrick Bet-David?

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• 10:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to vitimerch.com, place your order. Handmade, Italy, Tuscany, super foam technology. Your husband will thank you for it. Your son will, and you will if you buy it for yourself. Get it in white, black, uh, brown, or navy blue. And new colors will be launched here in August. But for now, we have a lot of sizes. Get them before they sell out because the sizes go out quickly. Having said that, let's get right into it. White House Correspondents Dinner. Everybody's expecting to see what the president's going to be saying. All of a sudden, I'm coming out of my daddy-daughter dance. Okay, I'm with my daughter, Rob. If you want to show the picture, me and Sen I'll go on Twitter, show the picture. Me and Sen, I did the Zoolander picture of me. We're at this place. I come out, I'm seeing a PBD podcast. I'm like, when did this happen? You're like, Pat, this just took place. I'm like, what are you talking about? So, you know, some people didn't

• 11:04Patrick Bet-David?

  like the hat. They said, why would you represent a hat that you're part of a community? I'm like, listen, man, I just put on a hat they gave me. I think that works. But then all of a sudden, there's a shooting. There is this, there's that. I'm like, again? Again, there's no way. So then we come home. And we see, and here's what we have. And what we've learned about the shooter who was there, who wrote a manifesto that we gotta get into. So I'm gonna go through this here and then the guys, I'm gonna come to you. So Cole Thomas Allen. What do we know about this guy? Rob, you have the video of him running. If you have the video of him running, there's a surveillance camera showing this. Go ahead, Rob. This is the guy, he runs a 40, apparently in a 4241. He should go to the combine. Watch this here. The Jets want to talk to him.

• 11:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Even the president says this guy was running. So look at him. How fast he's running, okay? Some said they shot him, some said he's dead. He wasn't. He did hurt his ankle. They eventually did get him. And then when the president was on stage with his wife, the first lady, this is what was taking place. They're having a conversation. The mentalist is doing a, not this one, go to the other one, Rob. You can see the president right there and then watch the first lady's reaction. I think this is, oh, this is a long one you have, Rob. Does he get right into it? Right off the bat. Go for it, go for it. So this is the president, first lady. He's pulling a trick. And you can tell president's very interested.

• 12:23Speaker 03

  And the trick is Caroline Levitt's baby's name, which I found out what the name that they, they. Look, I thought it had my name because you could see V on it. Watch.

• 12:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this.

• 12:33Speaker 03

  Guess her name.

• 12:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Turn it.

• 12:34Speaker 03

  Look at Trump, he's really interested.

• 12:36Adam Sosnick?

  You're gonna start to see loud noise, but he didn't clank him.

• 12:40Speaker 03

  They're shooting already. The guys, they're already shooting.

• 12:42Adam Sosnick?

  You just heard it.

• 12:43Speaker 03

  And look, they're shocked at the name. Look, right now. Oh, whoa. What's happening?

• 12:48Patrick Bet-David?

  JD Vance is out. The president's still there.

• 12:51Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, wow.

• 12:52Patrick Bet-David?

  So it takes about 13 seconds to get him from the president. 20 seconds to get him out. Took about 7, 8, or 10 seconds to get JD out. There's a lot of speculation there. Why did they get JD out of there before they got the president out of there? And so, this is all going on. Now, here's the, here's the thing about what we know about the shooter, Thomas Allen Cole. If you want to pull up his picture, Rob.

• 13:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Allen, having sent a 1,052-word anti-Trump manifesto to his family roughly 10 minutes before the assault, it is the third reported time on the president's life after 224 assassination attempts in Pennsylvania and Florida. There were 2,600 attendees at this event, everybody was there. And as they're going through this whole thing, Cole Allen attended, checked into the Washington Hilton as a registered hotel guest the day before on Friday, April 24th. And he wrote, which I'll read to you the manifesto here in a minute, Rob, if you want to pull it up, that's him. Allen was confronted by security near main metal detector screening area of Washington Hilton at 8:36 PM. He ran past the security checkpoint and

• 13:59Patrick Bet-David?

  fired at least one shot. CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer, who was just outside the ballroom at the time, reported being only a few feet from the gunman when the shots were fired. A very serious weapon. Allen himself sustained a knee injury while he was going through it. Initial Secret Service agents fired approximately three to four shots, and Allen shot, fired one. He had a shotgun, a handgun, and multiple knives. His sister told investigators that Allen purchased two handguns and a shotgun from CAP Tactical Firearms and stored them in the family home without parents knowing about it. And so, he's 31 years old, hometown Torrance. He went to Caltech University. If you know Caltech, that's not an easy school to get into. It's a very, very reputable school, Caltech. He did intern

• 14:44Patrick Bet-David?

  at NASA in 2014. Allen completed an internship at NASA working for artificial intelligence models for planetary mapping. He was a part-time teacher, tutor at C2 Education in Torrance. Since 2020, he was the teacher of the month in December of 2024. Okay? And so, this is not like it's a regular guy, independent video game developer is who he was. He gave $25 to ActBlue. The Democratic Party PAC in October of 2024 directed towards Kamala Harris's presidential campaign. A yard sign at his family home endorsed a local judicial candidate backed by the L.A. County Democratic Party. He was registered to vote without party affiliation.

• 15:26Patrick Bet-David?

  He participated at the No Kings protest in California. And social media accounts attributed to Allen containing anti-Trump and anti-Christian rhetoric. He frequently trained at a shooting range and had undergone firearms training. His brother residing in New London, Connecticut contacted the New London Police Department about Allen's manifesto. However, that call came approximately two hours after the shooting had already occurred. The brother was the family member who alerted law enforcement. As of Monday, Allen has not cooperated with the local, in custody. He's not talking to anybody whatsoever. And as you're going through this in the manifesto, which I'll read here in a minute after getting the team's reaction, there's a bunch of other things.

• 16:10Patrick Bet-David?

  He's facing a minimum of 10 years in prison, up to 20 years. Caroline Levitt stated Allen sought to assassinate the president and kill as many top Trump officials as possible. He came to this place on a Amtrak from L.A. to Chicago and then Chicago to D.C., not a flight. So he used Amtrak while he's coming down here. So anyways, I'll pause right there before we read the manifesto and show a couple other clips because I'm going to get into that next. Tom, your thoughts on how this happened and the story of it?

• 16:41Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I have two things to say. One is clever. The other is radicalized. Clever. Why did he take a train? Because you would have to check bags and declare a weapon and have it in a locked weapons box. Vinny, you and I have traveled, you know, with like a hunting gear, shotgun. You have to have it in a locked box. You check it in, you declare it, they inspect it, and then you get on the plane because obviously it's not in your carry-on. Well, he would have had to do that. So the reason he takes the train, in my opinion and the opinion of people that have been analyzing this, he doesn't have to declare anything. He just hides it. He just puts it in his, his, his bag there and he takes it in, takes his seat and, and goes on the, the 72-hour train ride. And so number one, he seems very clever. Number two, when you read the manifesto, he seems very clever.

• 17:25Adam Sosnick?

  But I'm going to put all that aside, Pat. The word is radicalized. This is a guy who by all accounts is smart. You don't, you're not dumb to go into Caltech and you're studying AI and you're working with NASA and you're working with high-end things. And now you're a teacher. And the teachers in LA, whether you're in Manhattan Beach or Hermosa Beach or, you know, LAUSD, which is LA Unified School District, largest school district in the United States. Says, "These are radicalized." Kim taught at LAUSD back in the day. They are absolutely radicalized. They are anti-conservative, anti-Christian, all of that.

• 18:02Adam Sosnick?

  And so it appears, what takes him from being at Caltech, Pat, to riding a train with a shotgun and to writing that manifesto? The answer is radicalized. Someplace the bit flipped and the guy was completely radicalized and decided he could do this. But you can see, there's a rational side of thought. First, I want to apologize to my family, apologize to my friends.

• 18:27Patrick Bet-David?

  You're talking about the manifesto?

• 18:28Adam Sosnick?

  The manifesto. It's well-written.

• 18:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me read that. Let me read that first and then, Vinnie, I'm going to come to you next.

• 18:32Adam Sosnick?

  That's what I think.

• 18:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Hello, everybody. So I may have given a lot of a surprise today. Let me start off by apologizing to everyone whom I trust. Rob, can you zoom in a little bit? "I apologize to my parents for saying that I had an interview without specifying it was for most wanted. I apologize to my colleagues and students for saying I had a personal emergency. By the time anyone reads this, I probably most certainly do need to go to ER, but can hardly call that not a self-inflicted status. I apologize to all the people that I traveled next to, all the workers who handed my luggage, all the other non-targeted people at the hotel who I put in danger and simply by being near. I apologize to everyone who abused or murdered before this, to all those who suffered before I was able to attempt to do this, to all who may still suffer from this regardless of my success or failure.

• 19:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't expect forgiveness, but I, if I could have seen any other way to get this close, I would have taken it. Again, my sincere apologies. Onto why I did this. I'm a US citizen. What my representative do reflects on me. I'm no longer, and I'm no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and a traitor to coat my hands with his crimes. Well, to be completely honest, I'm, I was no longer willing to a long time ago, but this is the first real opportunity we had to do something about it." Go to page two, Rob, if you could. While I'm discussing this, I'll also go over my expected rules of engagement. Probably in a terrible format, but I'm not military to uh, I am not military, so too bad. Administration officials, including, not including Mr. Patel. Why he says that, it's interesting, yes.

• 20:00Patrick Bet-David?

  They are targets, prioritized from the highest ranking to the lowest. Secret Service, they are targets only if necessary and to be incapacitated, not lethally if possible. AKA, I hope they're wearing body armor because center mass with shotguns mess people up. Who aren't. Hotel security, not targets if at all possible. AKA, unless they shoot at me. Capitol Police, same as hotel police. National Guard, same as hotel police. Hotel employees, not targets at all. Guests, not targets at all. In order to minimize casualties, I will also be using buckshot rather than slugs. Less penetration through walls. I would still go through most everyone here to get the targets if it were absolutely necessary. On the basis that most people chose to attend a speech by pedophile, rapist, and traitor. And are thus complicit, but I really hope it doesn't come to that.

• 20:46Patrick Bet-David?

  There's more, Rob, I think, because there's something he says about Iran. Do you have the one where he says, quite honestly, it wasn't that hard to get into? Uh, he says, hey, it, it, there's-

• 20:54Speaker 03

  I have, I have, it's the PS part, Pat. Once he's done, he goes into a PS.

• 20:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You have the PS, read the PS.

• 21:01Speaker 03

  He goes, PS, okay.

• 21:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Not POS, PS.

• 21:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, PS.

• 21:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go ahead.

• 21:03Speaker 03

  Okay, now that all that sappy stuff is done, what the hell is Secret Service doing? Sorry, gonna rant here for a bit and drop the formal tone. Like I expected, security cameras at every bend, bug hotel rooms, armed agents every 10 feet, metal detectors, out the wazoo. What I got, in parentheses, who knows, maybe they're pranking me, is nothing. No damn security, not in the transport, not in the hotel, not the event. Like, the whole thing that I immediately noticed walking into the hotel is a sense of arrogance. I walk in with multiple weapons, not a single person there considers the possibility that I could be a threat. The security at the event is all outside, focused on protesters and current arrivals. Because apparently, no one thought about, what happens if someone checks in the day before?

• 21:47Speaker 03

  Like, this level of incompetence is insane, and I very sincerely hope it's corrected by the time- this country gets actually competent leadership again like if I was an Iranian agent instead of an American citizen I could have brought a damn madus and madus for you guys that don't know is where you have to sit down and it's one of those that thing is it's huge he's saying I could have brought a madus in here and and um no one would ever notice S H I T actually insane is what he says

• 22:16Patrick Bet-David?

  so what do you what do you think about the what do you think about the whole thing

• 22:18Speaker 03

  well first Pat reading like it's freaking sad like he was captured by the political propaganda full stop like look at how he sounds he sounds like a nice carrot like I know he's kind of off but think about it he's apologizing for the people Adam that even handled his luggage getting him on the train to get to the place I'm sorry to my parents I'm sorry he's even going through rules of engagement of you know I'm not gonna the Capitol Police are not this it it's really really sad uh Pat and the manifesto tells you that he was you know uh you know radicalized but you know what parts stuck out to me he checks into the hotel on Friday case the place you know he's been at the uh no Kings rally the messaging inside the rest of the manifesto was anti-Christian

• 23:02Speaker 03

  um and I the fact that this is the scary part and I'm gonna get to the security right now I'm gonna have Rob play the video of of JD Vance uh the Vice President and the President Pat he was checked into the hotel since Friday no security no nothing the arrogance part really stuck out for me can you imagine just remember the shooting in Las Vegas how much arsenal Rob did that guy bring upstairs it was insane at the MGM was it the MGM shooting Tom yes okay Rob MGM think about this ladies and gentlemen if he kept doing multiple trips and kept bringing up explosives explosives he could have blown up that entire freaking building if he wanted to and taken out the Vice President the President all of our leadership

• 23:45Speaker 03

  all in one spot and I think I think it's actually ridiculous that that they let him get to that and I want to point out this failure by Secret Service this is my opinion I know Trump always praises them there's a shooting and a lot of people were trying to come at me online like what do you mean they weren't even close if the President is sitting there and we could hear pop pop pop pop gunshots he was close enough okay if he had an explosive he's close enough Rob can you please show this video I want everybody to know as a security protocol and I talked to Dan about this too There is, somebody is an active shooter, okay? Your number one goal, the chief, the number one president should be the, the, the guy that you get out first and foremost. Play this video, they, Secret Service grabs JD Vance is gone.

• 24:29Speaker 03

  And watch this, he's off the stage, the president is sitting there, three one thousand, four one thousand, five one thousand. Still staying on stage, still the target. And now they just slowly get the president off stage. He was up there for like thirty seconds.

• 24:46Adam Sosnick?

  And fully, fully hard armed, meaning with the armor and the helmets and everything. Five to seven seconds after Vance is off, you have the hard armored guy, which were supposed to put themselves on the vectors. So they protect.

• 24:58Speaker 03

  Tom, there's, Tom, there's been a shooting, you hear shooting? I'm diving on the president and getting him out. JD Vance got the treatment that the commander in chief should have gotten. Totally unacceptable and you're hearing from the shooter himself that he was amazed. He thought he was getting pranked because there was no security, because the, the president wasn't there yet. And again, I'm going to say the word arrogance, arrogance. You're just, what are we, what are we doing? As if you haven't learned the first time and the second time. And I'm, and I'm not, I'm not going down any crazy rabbit hole or anything. There was one interesting, and we'll get into Obama's statement at the end. But there was an interesting tweet, I sent to Rob this. The one thing that kind of made me bug out, I'm pretty sure you guys all saw it.

• 25:39Speaker 03

  There was a tweet by a guy named Henry Martinez in two thousand twenty-three, I believe, Pat. The only message this guy has ever put on his, look how many views it got, was Cole Allen. And that's his only tweet. And it's a frog in a tuxedo with a, with a champagne glass. People have been going crazy dissecting it.

• 25:59Patrick Bet-David?

  What does that mean exactly?

• 26:00Speaker 03

  Well, I don't, I don't know, Adam, in two thousand twenty-three, this guy, the one tweet he's ever.

• 26:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Go a little bit lower, Rob?

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• 27:07Speaker 03

  Is that, is that-

• 27:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Henry, the FBI would like to speak with you. What in the world?

• 27:11Speaker 03

  Like, how do you, is that, is that random?

• 27:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Cole Allen, Cole Allen had a picture of himself on Instagram. Okay, so that's a different one.

• 27:18Speaker 03

  That's the AI one that people were talking about.

• 27:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep going. You want a time machine instead of keep going a little bit lower?

• 27:23Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 27:24Patrick Bet-David?

  That's pretty wild.

• 27:25Speaker 03

  That's totally random. And then can I mention Barack Obama? Yeah, of course. Which pissed me off the most, Rob? If you could please do that? And before I get into this, let's not, the, the fact that he said, "pedophile, rapist, traitor", where is he getting that rhetoric from? Where, where is he getting that from? Who, who, who have we heard for the past four years on mainstream media, from Tim to every single body, brainwashing the American public of these things? Traitor, Hitler, boom?

• 27:54Adam Sosnick?

  Call it what it is, gaslighting.

• 27:55Speaker 03

  It's-

• 27:55Adam Sosnick?

  Mainstream media, gaslighting the American people.

• 27:57Speaker 03

  1,000%, and guess who Captain Gaslighter is? Is Barack Hussein Obama, who said, "Although we don't yet have the details", this is well after the shooting and the, the manifesto came out, "although we don't yet have the details about the motives behind last night's shooting at the White House correspondent", I want everybody to understand this. Barack Obama is the most divisive president, ex-president in the history of this country. Him saying, "We don't know the motive", isn't about facts. It's about slowing people down from reacting to what already looks completely obvious, all right? He's trying to plant doubt where people already feel clear, so they hesitate instead of judging the actual situation. So it gives his side cover.

• 28:42Speaker 03

  All right, people don't want to face what happened. Now they have an excuse to avoid it and he's the one doing it Tom. I love that you said gaslighting. It's him. It shifts the fight. Instead of focusing on what happened, now people are gonna waste time arguing over if is it clear Pat? Did he talk about that? Did he? We, you just read, we just read what he said. Pedophile, rapist, traitor. We know his motive, okay? And then Obama likes to flip the script. Anyone who calls it out is gonna get labeled an uh uh extreme or partisan. So bottom line, it's not confusion. What he's doing Obama is control. It's about buying time, protecting the narrative and and and turning reality into an argument instead of something that people could just recognize.

• 29:20Speaker 03

  I actually feel bad for this guy Pat. This guy was radicalized by a machine, political propaganda machine that made him literally go there to try to kill the President of the United States and anybody that got in his way.

• 29:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 29:31Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, um, I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting this feeling that they really wanna kill Trump.

• 29:39Adam Sosnick?

  So how much more evidence do we need that people are dedicating their entire lives and willing to die in order to kill Trump? And we can have a whole conversation of how they got to this point, AKA the left. I would say that the left has a violence problem at this point that needs to be addressed. Charlie Kirk, Steve Scalise, how many times did Trump uh try assassination Butler? Florida that we know about. You know, this room, which I've been into, uh, we can discuss that in a second. This might be one of the most important rooms in the world, certainly in America. Why? Was this not PBD? The the room that they tried to assassinate Ronald Reagan?

• 30:21Speaker 03

  Outside.

• 30:22Adam Sosnick?

  1981?

• 30:23Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 30:23Adam Sosnick?

  Um, this was also the room, if you recall, in 2011 where Obama gave the speech about the Donald. That basically motivated Trump to run for president.

• 30:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And the other comedian, what was the other comedian that said uh? This is the, the president is sitting there and he just keeps taking shots at the president. Uh, not Stephen Colbert, the late.

• 30:48Adam Sosnick?

  Seth Meyers?

• 30:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Seth Meyers.

• 30:49Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 30:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Seth Meyers. Yes.

• 30:51Adam Sosnick?

  So needless to say, now there was a performer, Oz Perman, the mentalist. This isn't a good look for you, buddy. How'd you not see this one coming? You're a mentalist. So this room changed everything. This is the room that basically motivated Trump to run and this is the room that now. A psychopath shooter who wrote a manifesto tries to break in and try to kill the president. At what point is Secret Service and are the feds gonna say, guys, what are we doing? How does this continually keep happening? We need to clean this thing up. Because I'll revisit what I said at the beginning, guys. They're trying to kill Trump. You know how you always hear, protect this man at all costs.

• 31:36Adam Sosnick?

  Could be some internet comedian. Protect this man at all costs. Trump is the most important man in the world, the most consequential man in the world. Making the world's most consequential decisions. This is the first White House Correspondents' Dinner that he shows up to as he's sitting president. And this is what happens. And by the way, whether it's balls or whether it's just lack of care, Trump wants to do the event again in the next 30 days. Let's make sure that our Secret Service and our security is up to par.

• 32:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 32:09Adam Sosnick?

  Can I also say one more story about the White House Correspondents' Security? I went to this event in 2017. I told the story about where I met Eric Swalwell at the bar. Here's some pictures where I was there. So the funniest thing about this event and me getting in, you want to know what? I didn't have a ticket. I wasn't invited. One of these ladies here said, yeah, come, you can come, just join me here. I said, how do I get in? They go, we'll figure it out. I got in without a ticket. I got to the red carpet. But this is 2017, three years before we start the podcast. Look, I've been fortunate enough to go to the White House now multiple times.

• 32:52Adam Sosnick?

  Tomorrow, Lago, we know that Trump Doral, we just did a massive event there, which they announced they're doing the G20 at. It's easier to get in the White House Correspondents' Dinner than it is to get to a sporting event or a concert. How's that possible? Reagan was shot there. This is continually a scene of the crime. So now, if you want to take out the president, you know, now this is probably the easiest room to get into.

• 33:16Speaker 03

  But you're ready for this?

• 33:17Adam Sosnick?

  Do better, please.

• 33:18Speaker 03

  Well, hold on. And then Adam, crap hits the fan. The vice president is grabbed and thrown off the stage. And the president's still, they're all looking around with Captain Magic Boy. They're like, hey, what's, what's happening? Get the president off the stage.

• 33:32Adam Sosnick?

  Trump addressed this in his 60 Minutes interview. Did you hear that?

• 33:35Speaker 03

  Yep, yeah, but.

• 33:36Adam Sosnick?

  Were you able to see that?

• 33:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, but as a security protocol, there's no excuse.

• 33:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so, so let's, let's cover a couple of different things while this is going on. Tom, I think you've been dying to say something.

• 33:44Adam Sosnick?

  No, I was saying, we're being a little hard on the Secret Service. There's four layers of, that I was reading about this weekend. The first is, vice president, president, each have their own detail. Clearly, the detail that's on JD that knows him and knows him, they reacted quickly, grabbed them by the shoulders, got them out of the chair and up. The president's detail apparently was slower. Then you have two Secret Service details. We went through it when we had Trump on the podcast. An incredible group of people that showed up, remember this, Pat? And they do what's called the advance. And they sweep and they do all this advance work and everything. The question is, how did the advance? How does a guy get a gun into a hotel room at the very hotel? That's on the advance side. But then there's perimeter, day of.

• 34:27Adam Sosnick?

  And apparently that was a metal detector and that he ran through, he ran through that perimeter checkpoint.

• 34:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, can I, can I just say something? Listen, there's two things. One, uh, yeah, Secret Service, you know, you can find a million ways to do your best to get better. But you're dealing with a client that's very public. You're dealing with a client that is not very, you know, like if you look at JD, JD's natural reaction was flight. Just, just play it. If you just look at it like to him, he was alert. The president is having a conversation with the.

• 35:03Adam Sosnick?

  Sitting on the right here.

• 35:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, to the right, if you can just put the arrow on it. He's about to get up. You see how you back up like you want to get up? And then they got him? Let's go. And boom. He's out, right? So, the president, that guy's standing in front of him.

• 35:17Adam Sosnick?

  He stood in front of him.

• 35:18Patrick Bet-David?

  He's still having the conversation and they finally come up. And they're in the front. And then he leaves. He says, get down. He gets down and then they get him out, right? And that lady in that dress that you saw, she's the president of the White House Correspondents Association.

• 35:32Adam Sosnick?

  The Asian lady?

• 35:32Patrick Bet-David?

  The Asian lady is the. Jenk, I believe is her name. In the light colored dress. In the light colored dress. So she's the president. So if you go look up, who's responsible for the White House Correspondents Dinner? They asked Scott Besson, "So Scott, you know, how do you manage the finances for an event like this?" He says, "I don't. This is not something the White House does. It's not our job. Somebody else does it." So it's its own thing that the media runs. She is the pre- you know who was the previous president of the White House Correspondents Association? Can you type in the previous? His name was Eugene Daniels. Do you remember Eugene Daniels? You should know who Eugene Daniels is. This is Eugene Daniels. You've seen him on MSN many, many times. Are you serious? That was the previous president of the White House Correspondents, right there.

• 36:15Patrick Bet-David?

  He served as the president of White House Correspondents Association. The new one, click on that, Rob. If you just click on White House Correspondents Association on his profile, it'll go to it. The new one is right there. Wijai Jenk. This is her. And this is who was sitting to the left of the president. To his left, to our left, if you're looking at the stage, that's her. She is so, so the security responsibility falls a little bit on the president who was putting this event together. Two, it falls on Secret Service protecting the president on the outside. Three, it falls on the hotel. The hotel who is, but the hotel's like, "What do you want me to do? You guys put events together here. We do hotels here all the time." Like, I remember one time, you know, we went and looked at the same exact hotel.

• 37:00Patrick Bet-David?

  We were gonna do SLS at this hotel. Right at this hotel, it was dated. It's actually a very dated hotel. It's not a nice hotel. Not nice. No, it's not nice at all. It's dated. And so we said, "No, we're not gonna go to this hotel." And at the end of the tour, they're like, "By the way, this is where the president Ronald Reagan got shot." I'm like, "Oh, that's awesome. Not a selling point, you know." And right here, if you look. So anyways, we looked at that as we're going through it. So to me, I think a few things that I liked. Let me tell you what I liked. And this is the stuff I am attracted to. One, I love that the president was poised.

• 37:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I love that Stelter said when he was in there, the guy that came and checked on him was the president of FCC. Okay, is this it, Rob? Yep. This is what I love. Play this.

• 37:50Adam Sosnick?

  Brendan Carr? Who checked on me inside the ballroom was Brendan Carr, who is the Trump FCC chairman. And some of you might know, I've been rather critical of some of Carr's actions in the last year.

• 37:58Patrick Bet-David?

  This is what's beautiful.

• 37:59Adam Sosnick?

  But we were talking a couple of times right afterward. And that's the point, Scott, right? Is that this was for everybody in the room.

• 38:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it right there. The president said, everybody was getting along. He said, the people that have said some foul things about me, we were talking. It was united. The energy was good. We were feeling good about it. Things were going great. So whoever was in there, it was like one of those things where, by the way, even the 60 Minutes lady that interviewed him, I watched the whole thing. I didn't watch the 13 minute clip that they put on, or I didn't watch a clip. I watched a 43 minute clip of the whole thing. And I have my own assessment. If you want to play the nasty clip that the president wasn't too happy about, I'll tell you how I felt the interview went. If you want to play this.

• 38:41Adam Sosnick?

  Nora O'Donnell, I believe, right?

• 38:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this with the manifesto thing, Rob? Go for it. The so-called manifesto is a stunning interview, Mr. President. He appears to reference a motive in it. Something like that in the interview, the 43 minute interview, 41 minute interview. He writes this quote, "Administration officials, they are targets."

• 38:56Adam Sosnick?

  And he knows it's coming.

• 38:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And he also wrote this, "I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes." Look at how he looks right at the. What's your reaction to that?

• 39:06Speaker 00

  Well, I was waiting for you to read that because I knew you would because you're horrible people, horrible people. Yeah, he did write that. I'm not a rapist. I didn't rape anybody.

• 39:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you think, do you think he was referring to you? Who do you think? Come on.

• 39:21Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, come on.

• 39:22Speaker 00

  You read that crap from some sick person? I got associated with all stuff that has nothing to do with me. I was totally exonerated. Your friends on the other side of the plate are the ones that were involved with, let's say Epstein or other things. But I said to myself, you know, I'll do this interview. Probably, I read the manifesto, you know, he's a sick person. But you should be ashamed of yourself reading that because I'm not any of those things.

• 39:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Mr. President, these are the gunman's words.

• 39:56Speaker 00

  Excuse me.

• 39:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, she knows.

• 39:58Speaker 00

  You shouldn't be reading that on 60 Minutes. You're a disgrace, but go ahead, let's finish the interview. He wrote in the

• 40:05Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, just so you know, in the complete interview, in the first 60 seconds, the president says he read the manifesto. Yeah. So the first person that brought up the manifesto was the president. And you could tell she really didn't want to read that. Mm hmm. She was uncomfort. I don't know whether somebody asked her to read it or not, because even at the end, what he said, what she said is, hey, Mr. President, thank you for your graciousness. Thank. And it was a very, I've never seen them specifically her talk to the president respectfully, where you could tell she was uncomfortable with this interview. Like, she has to do her job.

• 40:44Patrick Bet-David?

  She had to read that because out of all the interview, everything that was discussed, there was nothing else to address, but that, right? Like, I actually don't think she is a, a, a, a, a, a, what do you call it? Like, one of the Jamie Raskin type of things. Jamie's a complete different story, and I, we can go to Jamie right now, as well. If you want to see the complete opposite of the nasty, I thought there was good things going on. I thought it was like, all right, this is good. Hey, let's go. Let's do the thing. Let's have the fun. Let's take shots at each other. But the two things that I couldn't stand, and one of them is like above it all, and I want to play another clip that nobody is paying attention to, that I think is the most important message that was given by Van Jones. Him and I were exchanging messages last night, is the following. I'll show you. But go to Jimmy Fallon fir-, Jimmy Kimmel first.

• 41:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is Jimmy Kimmel a couple of days ago. While he's doing his monologue, they shoot this to make it seem like he's the comedian for the White House Correspondents' Dinner. And in it, they use images of Melania, the first lady, to make it seem like she's in the audience. She's not. This is just B-roll that they're adding. Yeah. And here's what he had to say. Go ahead, Rob. Our first lady Melania is here. Look at Melania. So beautiful. Mrs. You have a glow like an expectant widow.

• 42:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You have a glow like an expected widow? Yeah. So this is the part where I have a problem with things like this. So people came back and they say, oh yeah, are you okay with the president saying, you know, an entire civilization, Iran? Well, that is the enemy he's calling out. For somebody in the mainstream who has the biggest show that's on TV, like this is the modern, who is the modern day replacement of a Carson Letterman or Leno? It's two names. Kimball and Fallon. It's those two, right? So you get up and you say something like that about the first lady? Nasty, disgusting, ugly. You don't want to see anything like that. I know what does Raskin say, Rob?

• 42:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I think you have a Raskin clip as well. Uh, so to me, you know, while you're watching this stuff, did he get punched in the face? Or his pink eye? Something's coming out of there. Okay, something's going, I hope he recovers, but that's, go ahead, Rob, play the clip.

• 42:58Speaker 03

  And you have, as many of your fellow Democrats have used some heated rhetoric against the president. And do you think twice about that when something like this happens? What rhetoric do you have in mind? Well, he's talking about some of the fact that he, you know, is terrible for this country and so on and so forth. I understand that that's your democratic right, but overall? Yeah. Do you have a responsibility? I have no personal problem with Donald Trump at all. I mean, I talk about the policies of this administration, the authoritarianism like we saw on display in Minneapolis.

• 43:31Patrick Bet-David?

  We can play clips and the greatest hits of what things they've said about the president, which is absolutely nasty. There's a lot of it, okay? But the president said something. He says, look, I study assassinations. He said this right afterwards because he wanted to go on. He's like, I don't want one person to stop the entire thing. I want this thing to continue. But he is being interviewed, this is it, good, good, fine, Rob. He's being interviewed and he says, look, I've studied assassinations. I've studied what happens with this. I study why they do this. It's typically the people, I'll let them address it. Go ahead, Rob. Thank you, President Trump. There's a report in the New York Post that this assailant assembled his weapon somewhere on site at the hotel. What do you think about that? And I ask respectfully, why do you think this keeps happening to you?

• 44:19Speaker 00

  Well, you know, I've studied assassinations. And I must tell you, the most impactful people, the people that do the most, you take a look at the people, Abraham Lincoln, I mean, you go through the people that have gone through this, where they got him. But the people that do the most, the people that make the biggest impact, they're the ones that they go after. They don't go after the ones that don't do much because they like it that way. And when you look at the people that have either, whether it was an attempt or a successful attempt, they're very impactful people. Just take a look at the names there, the big names.

• 45:03Speaker 00

  And I hate to say I'm honored by that, but I've done a lot.

• 45:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause, Rob. You see, this is the part where, you know, to have a job like this and make the changes that you want to make, that are massive, massive changes, it has to be by a leader that understands what the risk is. Like, he's accepted the fact that every day someone's trying to kill him. He's accepted the fact that that comes with the territory. And by the way, he didn't move that fast. Now, Van Jones said this, and then Vinny, I'm going to come to you right after this because this is what I want to get you from. Van Jones said this, and he says, "This may be the biggest concern," and we're going to find out today, because the shooter is alive. He's not dead. He's not talking.

• 45:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Which means, he's making a comparison of, imagine the amount of like, people going, "Oh my God, man, Gianni killed a guy, the CEO, and he's alive, so what happens?" People are outside celebrating and all this stuff. Get your cover shot on Rolling Stone. Van Jones took a very, very unique angle here. Go ahead, Rob.

• 46:10Adam Sosnick?

  Starting to worry about something, though, which is that the shooter survived.

• 46:17Adam Sosnick?

  Which means on Monday, he's going to court. Which means there is a danger that people try to make him some sort of hero. You watch what happened with Luigi. Yep. Who shot a CEO to death and somehow became a hero. So they said, "Tonight, you saw the worst of America, you saw the best of America. Tonight, you definitely saw the best of America. I hope on Monday, we don't see the worst again." I just want to say very clearly, this kind of despicable behavior has no place in America. It has no place on the right, it has no place on the left. We don't know if he was there because he wanted to hurt Democrats or Republicans, both were there. We don't know if he wanted to hurt journalists or politicians, both were there.

• 47:02Adam Sosnick?

  This kind of behavior has no place in America.

• 47:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, thoughts?

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• 47:34Speaker 06

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• 48:07Speaker 03

  It's kind of like, and I'm with you 1,000% when there's a moment, Pat, where they're in there and Stelter, who I don't agree with at all, that I'm actually upset, but I'm happy that he was fired. Like, these people, these people created this monster, okay? And then they cry after about the monster that they created, okay? We want to heal, Pat. We want to be better. We want to be better as human beings. You know, this is a Christian nation. We're trying to be positive. And that's a messed up thing to even say, because it's happening probably right now. He's in court. It's what, 10 o'clock in the morning? He's probably gonna be in court in the next couple of minutes, probably. But it's just a sad thing that the Brian Stelters, the Jamie Raskins, the MSNBC, the,

• 48:51Speaker 03

  from the Chris Cuomo's, every single body for the past nine years that have been telling us every single day. It's not penetrating us, but a lot of Americans, Pat, that have this brainwashed Trump derangement syndrome, where it's past just anger and yelling at your family members, and I'm not gonna go to Thanksgiving, because, you know, John is gonna be there and he loves Trump. It's where they're getting armed, and they're going to arm, and they're going to kill. And they're going to kill. So I'm all for, I love the positivity afterwards. Okay, love each other. But it's like, you guys have created this monster, and guess what? How many other monsters are out there that we haven't even seen? You haven't seen anything yet. They're out there. And Trump's gonna have to, not only

• 49:32Speaker 03

  President Trump, when he gets out, his family, his family's kids, Baron, everybody is going to have to deal with this forever, and it's because of them. It's because of CNN, it's because of MSNBC. What, MS Now, you want to change your name like we forgot who you were? It's all these people, Pat. I do, I do think what he's saying is a valid point. They're gonna have people falling in love with him. In love with this guy. Oh, he's a hero. And who is it gonna be coming from? You think any Republicans are gonna be over there patting him on the back? This is a left issue that needs to freaking change, Pat. And it's the accountability of saying, I hope you die, I hope you wake. I'm all for free speech. But when you call for somebody to die, somebody should go and kill the president. Those people should be like, you're inciting an assassination. You want somebody to go and kill somebody. And it's ridiculous. I think it's ridiculous.

• 50:18Adam Sosnick?

  Look, in their minds, Trump is the enemy. So, you know, you said a second ago about, you know, what Trump said about killing a civilization, which obviously was hyperbolic and not true. But they're the enemy. I truly believe that there's a massive faction on the left, and somehow on the right now, that doesn't view China as the enemy, that doesn't view Russia as the enemy, or even Iran as the enemy. There's a singular enemy and his name is Donald Trump. Imagine that. You're an American, you're a citizen of the country, and your number one enemy is Donald Trump. I don't think we can understate this even more. How do, how, how do I have so much conviction? How do I know that this is to be true?

• 51:02Adam Sosnick?

  Because TDS is a real thing, and I had it. Have you ever had TDS?

• 51:07Speaker 03

  Never.

• 51:07Adam Sosnick?

  You ever had that, Pat?

• 51:08Speaker 03

  No.

• 51:09Adam Sosnick?

  You ever had that? For four years during his first term, when I watched MSNBC and Morning Joe and CNN, I watched a whole onslaught of news, I was like, this guy's a Russian asset, and he's trying to ruin the country and he can be bought and paid, all that. Thank God. I've snapped out of it. I mean, do you know anyone else who despised Trump and now absolutely admires him?

• 51:32Speaker 03

  No, but catch you one question.

• 51:33Adam Sosnick?

  Me, hold on, but let me just finish this.

• 51:34Speaker 03

  Okay, so I don't forget.

• 51:35Adam Sosnick?

  It's, it's something that needs to be studied, and cannot just be dismissed. Why? These people view Trump as the enemy, and here's what happens. Let's use Jimmy Camel as an example. Not only is, is he condoning killing the president, making a joke out of it, saying Melania, you have the glow of a beautiful widow, they're promoting it. They're putting it on TV, saying, guys, they're inserting the laugh track, and saying, this is hilarious, guys. And don't tell me that a large percentage of the country would not celebrate if Trump got shot. Because I'll give you Exhibit A, Charlie Kirk, while they're dancing on his grave, or I'll give you Exhibit B, how many people, oh, they wish, they got him in the ear, I wish they would have got him.

• 52:21Adam Sosnick?

  So don't tell me there's a huge population in this country that wouldn't be... gleeful if Trump got shot and that to me is disgusting.

• 52:29Speaker 03

  Can I ask him one question and do you remember and do this really fast. I know he wants Tom to say his piece. What what's the moment? Do you remember the moment? Because you went from I hate him, Russia, everything. What was the moment? Do you remember the moment where you went, oh, my God? I was what the hell? Like, there had to be a moment where you switched. What was it?

• 52:46Adam Sosnick?

  Number one, I never hated Trump. I don't use that word. Pat knows I never I don't like the things. But I think COVID was, I think everybody had to wake up during COVID. Everybody, we had to realize what is this true? Do we need to wear a mask? Do we need to get a jab? What's going on? Who do we trust? Who do we not trust? And then it all just unraveled. And then the moment, there was no singular moment. But if you just look at what was going on during the Biden administration, what did he do that you could say, that's my guy?

• 53:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Benny, I will tell you from the outside, okay, because Adam's not the only guy. You know, he he he wants to think he's the only guy. Millions.

• 53:23Adam Sosnick?

  On this podcast.

• 53:23Patrick Bet-David?

  On this podcast, fine, but millions. Rob was a guy. You know, and I I just Rob doesn't say it. Rob didn't come here be in full agreement with me politically. Are you kidding me? No, a a lot of people, as you're going through it, you know, and and by the way, I remember also there were some guys that had left him that had gone to DeSantis, that like DeSantis is the guy, which, by the way, you the market's going to be very confused with me because do not be surprised if in 2028, I'm, you know, a a guy that wants to see DeSantis make the next move. And I got a couple of guys. I think I actually think he I just didn't want DeSantis in 24. But you know what it is? Here's a part that I want everybody to be thinking about. You know, my dad would say something.

• 54:09Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, Pat, when you were going through trouble and a lot of people had written you off and you would act like you were not listening to me, I knew you were listening.

• 54:22Patrick Bet-David?

  I knew you were still listening. And as a father, I would pray every night that my son, my only son, would figure out to do something with his life. And I knew what I wasn't gonna do is stop talking to you. And stop giving you what I thought you needed to do. Whether it was, "Life is getting late, it's getting late, do something with your life." Stop, because I was in the club six days a week. I was partying and not doing anything useful with my life. It was just bodybuilding, girls, and, you know, partying, and that was it. And it's like, hey, get your act together. And I'm like, "Dad, I don't wanna hear it, Dad, I don't wanna hear it." "No, no, no, you can't tell me anything." And then all of a sudden, it happens, right? So I don't think it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a one-day thing. I don't think it's a one-day thing. I think it is like gradually, eventually, it lands.

• 55:07Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, this is good and bad. I mean, I, I have a question to ask you that's gonna be a bigger question to ask. That I, I want, and I, I want the audience to process this. And I know what we're gonna get already with this. I'm very comfortable, like, the other day, I've been trying to get all of these people that are making the claims, the biggest names, get the biggest names that are criticized to taking money from Qatar, or Pakistan, or China, or Israel, or anybody. I am willing to do a full-on audit on me and my wife's finances. I publicly called out the biggest players to get this out there. Call me. I called it out.

• 55:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Because what, what upsets me the most is the following. What upsets me the most is the following. Is the fact that people who are not fully in it, they will... Propaganda works, Vinny, it's a very beautiful thing. Nasty, but it works. And so to me, I got a question for the three of you guys. Say you have a billion dollars to use for propaganda, okay? You have a billion dollars to use for propaganda. And Vinny, I'm gonna come to you first, then Tom, I'm gonna come to you, and then I'll come to you as well. Billion dollars of using propaganda, and by the way, Rob, run this poll. And Humberto, I want you to text me which one you're gonna choose, okay?

• 56:31Patrick Bet-David?

  You have a billion dollars to buy any one of these three communities. Which one do you buy? You ready?

• 56:38Speaker 03

  Go for it.

• 56:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you buy Congress politicians? Do you buy...

• 56:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Podcasters, influencers, okay? Or do you buy the youth? Rank it from one, two, three. You have a billion dollars. Which of those three do you want to buy? So Congress would be what? You're able to change policies to protect for your nation, to protect for you. The youth is long-term, my God, right? And then you have what? The next one is what? Podcasters. Podcasters, influencers, streamers, right? My God, let me get, let me get the kids, let me get the streamers. You have a billion dollars, you're, you're another country. Where do you put your money? Which of those three do you think is the most powerful place to put your money? To brainwash, to get them to think the way you think, to control the minds? Where do you put your money?

• 57:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Rank it, one, two, three. Rob, have you already posted the poll?

• 57:34Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 57:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go ahead.

• 57:35Speaker 03

  A billion dollars?

• 57:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You have a billion dollars to buy a propaganda to push your agenda. Which of those?

• 57:41Speaker 03

  Number one would be the youth. I put the majority of my money into the youth to get them, get them early, change their mindset. I, I'm, I see it with my own eyes and it's insane. Cause I don't, I, I see the machine speaking out of their mouth. It's that they're not coming up with this, these ideas on their own. Number one. Number two, podcasters. Every single day, listening to these people, follow streamers, like the, the amount of people, because nobody's following Congress. People are following podcasters. And once you have an audience that's watching millions and millions and you have, you know, five to 10 million subscribers and they're listening every single day. And by the way, they're not fact-checking you, you become their, their fact. It's whatever this person's saying. So I'd go number one, youth. Number two, podcaster. Number three, Congress.

• 58:26Speaker 03

  Because yeah, they're doing the laws, Pat, but they're not moving the lead needle.

• 58:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So for you, it's?

• 58:29Speaker 03

  Youth.

• 58:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Youth?

• 58:31Speaker 03

  Podcaster.

• 58:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Podcasters, Congress. Tom?

• 58:34Adam Sosnick?

  First, I'm gonna go podcasters and media. Cause with podcasters and media, I pick the right podcasters, I get the youth. The youth is number two. And number three is Congress. Cause if I get the, if I get the podcast and media.

• 58:44Patrick Bet-David?

  When I say Congress, I mean politicians.

• 58:45Adam Sosnick?

  Then politicians is number three. I get politicians, if I get number one.

• 58:49Patrick Bet-David?

  All right.

• 58:50Adam Sosnick?

  Podcasts, media, now, and, and I'll tell you why. You know, the, the late P.G. O'Rourke wrote- Fantastic essay about 25 years ago. And it was called the three branches of government, money, television and bullshit. And that's, sorry to say that, but that's what he called it. And he pointed out that with the money, you now get everything you want on television. And with television, you then get the BS, which is the propaganda. I think it was as real when he wrote it as it is today. That's my three.

• 59:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Beautiful.

• 59:18Adam Sosnick?

  I'll rank them one, two, three. Number one would be youth. Number two would be the podcasters and number three would be Congress. If I had to allocate $1 billion of resources, Congress would get zero. Uh, the podcasters influencers would get $100 million. And I would pump $900 million into the youth, AKA TikTok.

• 59:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. So to me, you know, you know, who made a mistake? You know who made a mistake? Okay, so let's go to countries, allies and enemies. Give me the most important countries that get alleged for buying influence. Give me the top five countries. We're number one, by the way, we buy influence like no other, right? We're selling capitalism, free market values, you know, all this stuff. But give me countries, foreign countries that are trying to do buy influence in America. Give me the top five countries.

• 1:00:09Speaker 03

  Israel's obviously gonna be.

• 1:00:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Israel's on that list. Who else?

• 1:00:12Adam Sosnick?

  No, China's my number one. China's number one and it's not even close.

• 1:00:15Patrick Bet-David?

  But he said Israel though. Watch what the market does. This is where I'm going with this. So Israel, China, what other country?

• 1:00:21Adam Sosnick?

  Saudi.

• 1:00:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Saudi, what other country? Qatar, Qatar. What other country? Can we just put those? Cause I don't even think Russia's doing a lot of this, but we can put Russia in here as well.

• 1:00:32Adam Sosnick?

  Russia might not give us much money, but they're gonna use propaganda.

• 1:00:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Now watch this Rob, pull up this chart.

• 1:00:36Adam Sosnick?

  India is doing more than you think.

• 1:00:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Before you pull it up, before you pull it up. Can you tell me what country right now is putting the most money into our educational system right now?

• 1:00:44Adam Sosnick?

  China.

• 1:00:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Pull it up, Rob.

• 1:00:46Speaker 03

  How much?

• 1:00:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Pull it up, pull it up.

• 1:00:47Adam Sosnick?

  China and Qatar.

• 1:00:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Pull it up. Number one is Qatar.

• 1:00:51Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:00:52Patrick Bet-David?

  In universities, in universities, 6.3 billion. And number two is China. Foreign funders of US colleges and universities. What do you think Qatar is doing? They know, let me get the youth and I'll confuse the shit out of them for two decades. Go pay like AIPAC has given money to who? Congress, what a waste of money. What a waste of money. So they lost the propaganda game. And Qatar is winning the propaganda game.

• 1:01:22Adam Sosnick?

  Where's Israel on this list?

• 1:01:24Patrick Bet-David?

  China is winning the propaganda. Israel's not on that list. Bermuda's at 1.7 billion.

• 1:01:27Adam Sosnick?

  May I make a short observation?

• 1:01:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course, yes.

• 1:01:29Adam Sosnick?

  What are the last two words of the headline? All time. Qatar, all time, which means that the bulk of that just happened now. Yeah, exactly. And China's been doing this for all time?

• 1:01:40Patrick Bet-David?

  So, do you know what this means to me? Let me tell you what this means to me.

• 1:01:43Adam Sosnick?

  Am I wrong? No, you're absolutely right.

• 1:01:45Patrick Bet-David?

  What this means to me, you know what Lenin said many years ago? Here's what Lenin said many years ago. Lenin said this many, many years ago, okay? Many, many years ago. He says, "Give me control of a nation's music and I care not who makes the laws."

• 1:02:00Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:02Patrick Bet-David?

  "Give me control of a nation's music and I care not who makes its laws." What is he saying? Who listens to the music?

• 1:02:10Adam Sosnick?

  The culture, the young people.

• 1:02:11Patrick Bet-David?

  The youth, the culture.

• 1:02:12Adam Sosnick?

  The patch of music come through you.

• 1:02:13Patrick Bet-David?

  So, Qataris are sitting there saying, "Hey, let me go get the youth at these universities. Let me go win them over. Let's give 6.3 billion dollars to the US universities and we'll get a hold of all these kids." And guess what these kids do? Who uses most social media, youth or older people?

• 1:02:31Adam Sosnick?

  Youth.

• 1:02:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Youth. And what are they gonna do on streamers, gaming, all that stuff? And you see some of these guys right now are like, "I hope they're capitalist blood." Don't say their name. The capitalist blood is all over the da-da-da-da-da.

• 1:02:42Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And who's listening to them? Streamers.

• 1:02:44Adam Sosnick?

  All the young.

• 1:02:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course, of course. So, so, the, the, the, the part you have to respect the enemy is good for, you know, on the enemy's side. Look what they did. They sat there in a meeting and they said, "Forget about the politicians. Those guys are idiots giving money to Congress. They don't do shit. Let's go buy the youth. Put the money in the youth. Let's go get the universities." Qatar followed China's lead. And what happens now to these universities? Imagine you're ahead of a university. And so you're on the university and I'm Qatar. And I just gave you 150 million dollars. What phone call are you picking up? Who, who, hey? What influence, are you more loyal to America or the guy that's giving you a hundred? The guy that gave me a hundred, if I'm that guy, the money.

• 1:03:28Patrick Bet-David?

  That is the part, so when everybody's saying, oh, seven thousand dollars or this or this or that and all that. Da, da, da, da, da. Even there was an influencer that said, look at all these MAGA influencers that they all retweeted immediately and said, this is why we need to, this is why we need to what, this is why we need to. Ballroom, the ballroom. The ballroom, which probably I don't even care about the ballroom. Like you do it or you don't do the ballroom. It's, I don't even know what the budget for that is. Who cares? I never once have commented on it. It's not a top 50 issue for me when it comes on to the ballroom. You've never heard me talk about the ballroom. Although we're building an amphitheater ourselves here, we're building a kitchen, we're building a, uh, what do you call it? A, a meeting room and we're building a facility, 10-story facility that's. Oh, conference center, yeah. Conference center. Why? Because we, you know, we keep going to hotels. I want to do the meetings here. It's a lot easier, secure. We built the wall.

• 1:04:12Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, a lot of people have been texting me over the weekend saying, I just finally saw the gate. It looks like a Jurassic Park gate that we got outside. I don't know if you saw it coming in today. Did you see how it was? I saw a T-Rex too. Yeah. You almost didn't let me in. Yeah, that was intentional, but there's a part of it that, a part of it is that you have to pay attention to where they're giving their money to. The same way you invest in equities, real estate, crypto, Bitcoin, governments, countries, ideologies. They don't care about that stuff. They're buying ears. They're buying ears and the best way to do it is get the youth. Cause you have them for two decades if you get them. It's a 20-year run rate. They'll come out of it in 20 years. Right.

• 1:04:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Why? Why will it come out of in 20 years? Cause what's probably gonna happen between 18 and 38? What's probably gonna happen? You're gonna grow up, you're gonna have a family, you're gonna have kids, you're gonna get a job, you're gonna pay taxes, you're gonna do all that stuff. You're gonna do all of that stuff. Then what do you do? What the F am I doing? Yeah, of course. Why am I a feminist? Why do I hate America? Why? These conservative ideas are better ideas. Get them early, put the hate and rage and America's not the greatest country. It sucks and then slowly it tips, slowly. And so I call our audience the smartest audience out there. If you're watching because you agree or disagree or whatever you are, I think you're the smartest audience out there that we have and we're going to keep talking about this kind of stuff.

• 1:05:34Patrick Bet-David?

  And but I'm just telling you right now, guys, be very, very intentionally careful of the propaganda machine that is taking place from our enemies. They want to see a massive division in America, massive. This guy goes to Caltech, smart guy comes out, you hate America, you hate, you want to kill this guy? Look, look at the power of propaganda. We have to pay attention to some of these things that are taking place. Yeah, I'll give you another one to go to, Rob and Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one here, is think about Forbes magazine. Forbes magazine comes out and tweets this, okay? This is Forbes magazine's tweet. Can you zoom in a little bit to that and then we'll go to my comments?

• 1:06:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Elon Musk is planet's richest person by far worth $839 billion as a Forbes annual world's billionaire list. He ranks, but he also ranks amongst the least philanthropic billionaires. Sure Musk has transferred eight and a half billion dollars of Tesla stock to his charitable foundation, but nearly all of it is still sitting there idle. Only an estimated $500 million or 0.06% of his mass vast fortune has ever been dispersed to those in need. His lack of giving raises a question. Would, what would our billionaires ranking look like if the most generous people had ever donated a dollar? To who? To who? Well, who do you want them to give it to?

• 1:06:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you go back one real quick on my, my message about Forbes? Who the hell approved a Chinese investor to buy 51% of Forbes? Why would Steve Forbes, Malcolm Forbes' son, sell 51% control?

• 1:07:15Patrick Bet-David?

  To a Chinese investor since 24. Why would you do it? He sounds like a nice guy. He sounds like a noble guy. His father did amazing things. If you type in capitalist tool. This guy had a private jet, covers a capitalist tool. He had a yacht, capitalist tool. He had a helicopter. Guess what it said on it? Capitalist tool. Just type in images, Rob. If you go on images, you'll see all of this stuff that I'm talking about. That was his jet. What does it say at the end of it? Capitalist tool. Capitalist tool. Go to his helicopter. Go to the yacht if you can. This guy was selling capitalism and Forbes today is selling socialism. Everything about this man. This man turned 70 years old. You know what he did at 70 years old?

• 1:07:56Patrick Bet-David?

  70 years old, he put on a party. He was best friends with, uh, uh, look at the helicopter. What does it say? Capitalist tool. On his helicopter. Vinnie, it puts a party on at 70 year birthday party. Everybody who attends, you know what gift they got? Everybody got a Rolex as a gift for attending his birthday party. Wow. Okay. Elizabeth Taylor, him and her would always write the Harley Davidson together. He had the biggest collection of Faberge, you know, the Russian Faberge. Nobody had more than he had. This guy was a billionaire. He would put lavish parties, celebrate capitalism, celebrate victory. Now the socialist magazine, they have to change the name. Change the name to Johnson. Or, or change the name to, I don't know. Chang. Whatever you want to put it, but change and change the Forbes name of the magazine at least.

• 1:08:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Or they need a new buyer. By the way, remember the one, that one guy, Tom, that the rumor had it, this guy bought Forbes for 800 million dollars at a 75% part of the Forbes. That deal never went through. So the company that owns Forbes still today. Do you know who Forbes announced as the International Woman of the Year? You know, in 2021, put Hillary Clinton, Rob. Oh, God. Just type in Hillary Clinton. Okay. Can you imagine? You know, who they have to have there where the lifetime achievement medal for Forbes International Women's Day goes to Hillary Clinton in 2022? Seriously? For what? What part of that is capitalism? To, to, to what? Is that capital going to Haiti? Is that capitalism? What part of this is capitalism? And by the way, these, these, these people that are

• 1:09:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Forcing charity on people, these people that are forcing charity on, first of all, Tom, I'll come to you and I'll read what I have here from this book. Go ahead, Tom. Your reaction to this?

• 1:09:33Adam Sosnick?

  So my reaction to this is, you know, for them to say this and go out like this, first of all, I've read about, about the, one of the producers, not producers, but like the lead editors, and I'm not even giving the liberty and the recognition of saying his name, but he went to Columbia School of Journalism and he's like 28 years old, Pat. That's the guy that wrote that article about philanthropy. So gee, what do you think his position is, right?

• 1:10:02Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a good point.

• 1:10:03Adam Sosnick?

  What is his bias? And also say this, when we, you mentioned something about Nora O'Donnell, you said maybe she didn't look like she wanted to ask the question. The key is every two weeks, we're hearing about Barry Weiss, this person leaves or that person leaves. Barry Weiss apparently is trying to clean things up. At least, at least that's what we hear from the outside, right? The producers are the ones, you know, it's people like Keith Charman and Julie Mordgough and Roxanne Fittell. Those are the producers at CBS and the producer is in the earpiece asking her to say things. And those are the people to watch out for because they're, they're driving the narrative. So I want to know who Forbes editors are. And guess what? To control a magazine, all you do is control the editors because the editors green light the stories. So, green light the stories,

• 1:10:48Adam Sosnick?

  all you need to do is have the guy that owns 51%, Pat, all you need is four editors, believe it or not. I looked it up. They say four editors and the editor in chief and three editors can control the entire narrative of the magazine or of the, of the channel. That's all we need. And, and this is who is doing it. To me, this is horrifying. And by the way, if you're asking me also what I feel about philanthropy, charities, most of the time, they become perpetual motion machines. Charity is supposed to be in place to fix something. Save the whales. Well, how do we know when we're all saved? Do we move on to something else?

• 1:11:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:26Adam Sosnick?

  No, we keep saving the whales and you keep raising money for us and you keep doing that. Most charities never end. And what happens is the original mission gives way to the bloat of everybody being part of the charity and it's a tax deduction and all this. I only give, and Pat knows this, for something beginning middle What do we need to fix? Do we need a pool? Do we need this? What do we need? I'll get involved. But onward, onward, onward. It's very, very difficult for me. And Forbes, I think, I think somebody should step in here. This is, once upon-

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• 1:12:57Adam Sosnick?

  At a time, it was the vision of capitalism, Pat. And I believe Forbes can be that again, but it's going to take, it's going to take somebody else at the helm. Adam? Well, you talked earlier about capitalism, and I'm just commenting on that for a second. In our group chat, there was a, something that the guy Sean McGuire had to say. And this is essentially, I'll just sum it up real quick. The Democratic Party that we were all used to, no longer exists. You know, and he basically says that the DNC has now been replaced by a coup with the DSA, the Democratic Socialists of America. And I've said this before on the podcast, do you remember a time where socialists would

• 1:13:39Adam Sosnick?

  openly, proudly say, "Vote for me," that socialist candidate? It used to be a communist, I'm a socialist, let's keep it a secret. And then what happens is this, over time, you talked about paying and getting hijacked. Words have meaning. You're saying words have power, words can change things. You know what bad words are now? Capitalism is a bad word. Trump is a bad word. Israel is a bad word. America has become a bad word. Uh, patriotism is a bad word, but you know what good words are? Communism, socialism, trans, free Palestine.

• 1:14:18Adam Sosnick?

  All the things that were bad 20 years ago are now good in the Democratic Party, the DSA. And all the bad things, all the good things are now bad. Things have flipped. Who has changed more over the last 20 years? Republican Party, conservatives, or Democrats? Liberals. To me, it's not even close. Republicans have maybe moved to further to the right, more patriotic. The left has gone full progressive and they're all socialists and communists. So you have Trump on one side, then you have Ilhan Omar and Mamdani on the other side. Those two weren't even born in America. There's the problem.

• 1:14:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me read this to you. So in 1935, you know who was the richest man in the world?

• 1:14:59Adam Sosnick?

  Rockefeller.

• 1:14:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, you know who number two was? Henry Ford the second. You know what Henry Ford the second wanted to do? Entertain charity. Let me tell you what he ends up regretting. Okay, what he ends up regretting. Why I no longer believe in this whole concept of when I die, I'm gonna die with zero. Leave it all for charity. The dumbest idea in the world, after I read this to you, the dumbest idea in the world. Give to charity today if you trust the person that's running it. Do not leave in your inheritance for charity that is gonna be anybody else that could be running it. That things could change. Look what happened to Henry Ford, that he eventually resigned from the charity that he started himself. So i- it was in the home that Etzel Ford was confronted with a greater challenge.

• 1:15:39Patrick Bet-David?

  In 1935, Roosevelt administration pushed through tax reforms that demanded 70% of large inheritances. When his father died, Etzel realized the family would be forced to liquidate their stock and lose control of the company which bore their name. So Henry Ford, despite his reputation as a Where he stood with charities, historian William Greenleaf estimated that Elder Ford donated thirty-seven point six million dollars to charity during his lifetime. He built a world-class hospital in Detroit, as well as a Henry Ford Museum in Greenfield Village in Dearborn, was one of the most important institutions dedicated to American history in the hopes preserving at least a part of our history and tradition.

• 1:16:20Patrick Bet-David?

  He did not believe that charity meant for more financial donation, but involved a living activity stating, "I do not believe in giving folks things. I do believe in giving them a chance to make things for themselves." So, look how the story goes. So, it seemed to have worked. Henry Ford the Second in control was the most powerful person in America. They started donation. There were only two other foundation trustees, both men employed by the Ford Motor Company. So, they started charity. They're running it. There's only two other people part of the board, Tom, and they're both working for who? Ford Motor Company. The chaos came slowly, then all at once. Henry Ford the Second was persuaded that he had a moral responsibility to democratize control of the foundation as was increasingly regarded as best practice for charitable organizations

• 1:17:05Patrick Bet-David?

  at the time. So, he's trying to be noble and saying, "Hey, you know what? Let's open it up and let's have more people on the board, not just me since I started it and I'm giving all the money, a hundred percent of the money's coming from me. Well, let's open it up." The number of trustees does increase and over time, these trustees over-in- increased in boldness and challenging Ford's opinion. He's giving the money. Yeah. Now, they're telling him, "We're not gonna do that." So, watch this. As the influence of those outside of family grew, priorities shifted away from traditional Michigan focus of Henry Ford to now the places. In nineteen fifty, the trustees signed the report of the study of the Ford Foundation on Policy and Program, announcing five areas of action: economic improvement, education, freedom, and democracy, human behavior, and what?

• 1:17:49Patrick Bet-David?

  World peace. They decided that their responsibility was no longer to just Michigan, which is where he built everything. It was to who? The world. Nineteen fifty-three, the foundation transferred its base of operations from Detroit to where? New York City. It continues. Henry Ford's Detroit was left to crumble. By nineteen seventies, Henry Ford's second loss of control was near total with then-President McGregor-McGeorge Bundy flatly denying George's request. Vinny, check this out. Henry Ford is putting money in the charity. He's saying, "I want to give money to Henry Ford Hospital." The president of the charity, named the Ford Foundation, says, "I'm not gonna, I'm gonna..." He flat out denies

• 1:18:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Ford's request for donation to Henry Ford Hospital. Bundy had more important things to focus on, on matters of the world. Author Heather McDonald summarized that his focus became the world. So imagine, I'm like, "Hey, Vinny, you're running my charity. Hey, can you give some money to my hospital?" "No, we got better things to do."

• 1:18:49Speaker 03

  I got other stuff going on.

• 1:18:50Adam Sosnick?

  We gotta solve world peace.

• 1:18:51Patrick Bet-David?

  But watch what ends up... More radical still was the Ford Foundation experience of eugenics and population control in the 70s. Motivated by the belief that global starvation was imminent, of the population bomb was not addressed, for example. Foundation official Douglas Ensminger created a large-scale sterilization program in India, offering vasectomies to millions. This program infrastructure was then co-opted and made mandatory by Indian Prime Minister at the time, Indira Gandhi, likely influenced by Ford Foundation, who ordered a declaration of national emergency and embarked on a forced sterilization drive, which sterilized over 6 million men in 1976 alone. Ford Foundation. 6 million men were sterilized.

• 1:19:34Adam Sosnick?

  In India.

• 1:19:34Patrick Bet-David?

  In India because of Henry Ford's Foundation.

• 1:19:37Adam Sosnick?

  Jeez.

• 1:19:38Patrick Bet-David?

  So, in December of that year, 1976, Henry Ford lost all control of the Foundation. He resigned his role and said the following, in protest, a public letter that he wrote. Front page news, 1976. "The diffuser array of enterprises upon which the Foundation has embarked in recent years is almost guaranteed that few people anywhere will share a common perception of what the Foundation is all about, how it sees its mission, how it serves society. It's a danger sign." At the time, I did it on purpose because I thought it was the right thing to do, beginning. Now I think I made a mistake. I should have kept control. And this is at a New York Times story. Do you know what these guys end up?

• 1:20:22Patrick Bet-David?

  The Ford Foundation remains a raging bull on this day, now totally divorced from anything the original Ford family members have recognized in the last decade. You ready what they put their money into? They have given millions to Southern Vision Alliance, a creation of the revolutionary Marxist Leninist group, the World Workers Party. That's not what he stood for. The Foundation Grand Database, accessible online, lists number of bizarre donations, $300,000, to build grassroots Muslim power. $600,000, a Chinese state think tank, to promote the formation of an internationally accepted ESG system with Chinese characteristics. In 2020, their blog proudly announced, "We're seeing grantees at the forefront of change that's taken place over the last few years."

• 1:21:05Patrick Bet-David?

  The Lake Council Minneapolis pledged to dismantle the police department. Their work is far from over. This charity started good, and now they want to get rid of the police? And so when you look at this, American Red Cross, half a billion dollars after the 2010 earthquake that took place, they raised. They raised a half a billion dollars, of which $170 million was earmarked for shelter, but just six permanent structures were built. The Gates Foundation spent billions of dollars to reform the US school system. The effort ended after investigation found the interventions were ineffective. Madonna's $15 million raising Malawi Academy for Girls Project was destroyed before it broke ground, having wasted millions on salaries, cars, and golf memberships. Weird.

• 1:21:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And this I Promise School that LeBron James started in 2023 had not a single eighth-grade student pass the test for math in three years. So guess what, when it comes down to charity? Unless if the person running the charity is active today, leave 100% of the money to your family and your kids, and do it in a proper way and what it goes to them. This whole pressure about putting money into charities, you know who's given the most money to charity in a single year in the history of America? You know who? A guy named Elon Musk. He paid $11 billion in taxes. That's charity. And you want to say these billionaires, frickin' Forbes magazine becoming socialist, should have never sold to China. Why would you sell to China? 41%, 51% to China. What do you think they're gonna do?

• 1:22:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, they remain a small percentage in Forbes family. They own you. You do what they do. Your dad would have never approved of this. So I think this whole concept of what they're doing right now to pressure billionaires. You know what Warren Buffett just announced recently? Guess what Warren Buffett just said? I'm out of Bill Gates foundation. I'm not doing this no more with you. I'm out.

• 1:22:50Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 1:22:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm out.

• 1:22:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:22:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Give money to today, never leave a penny to a single charity after you die. Not a single penny. Control it to go to the right causes. Based on the right values. Write it in your trust. Write it in your will. If it's not a cause that matches the values and principle, not a penny can my kids give to that organization. So I think this is a very weird time we're living in, but we gotta go back to teaching people history. What mistakes people made, how to do it better. You're creating the wealth. The ultimate wealth you're making is for who?

• 1:23:22Speaker 03

  Yourself and your family.

• 1:23:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Yourself and your family. So you set up your kids to have a chance. You're setting it up so your kids have a chance at winning in life. There is nothing wrong with giving your kids a head start. If you, if you work your ass off for all this money, give it to them. Leave it to them, not to charities. These charities don't care about you. They don't wake up in the morning thinking about your kids and your family.

• 1:23:42Speaker 03

  Well, you, you just made a great point too. Like they raised how many millions and millions of dollars? And they couldn't even build the thing because there were golf court, golf memberships and cars and what the hell?

• 1:23:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Second Corinthians 12 14. After all, children should not have to save up for their parents, but their parents for their children. Let me read it again. Corinthians. After all, children should not save up for their parents, but parents for their children.

• 1:24:07Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 1:24:09Patrick Bet-David?

  It's our job to take care of them. Not their job to take care of us. We're supposed to set them up. It's our job to give them a head start, not the other way around. So this, there's so much confusion out there with what we're talking about. And then, oh, kids have to take care of their, their. I mean, don't get me wrong, I do it proudly and I'm grateful in a biggest way. So it's not like it's a burden, oh my God, I feel burdened by it, but it's our job to set them up. Not these freaking charities. Who the hell are these charities? Be charitable. Gift to your church. If you trust where the money is going to, like Tom and I, we sat down, they're coming up to us and say, can you give us money? Where is this money going to? Swimming pool. His daughter swims. Let's support. Where is this money going to? To a library. What is it gonna have? Great support. Where is this money going to? No, instead of doing this. No, no.

• 1:24:54Patrick Bet-David?

  No, so I don't know. I think, I think this whole thing, as you go deeper into it. Folks who are making money and our audience, a, a, a good percentage of you guys are fairly wealthy. Get very serious about estate planning and your living trust in place or else the money's gonna get wasted by somebody that doesn't, doesn't have the similar causes as you.

• 1:25:11Speaker 03

  Pat, how much?

• 1:25:14Adam Sosnick?

  Crossover is there with the barbarians to bureaucrats that you always talk about? Is this basically that? You start as the barbarian, you start as the prophet, and then the bureaucrats take over and they start basically imposing their will against whatever you want.

• 1:25:27Patrick Bet-David?

  It's the guilt, it's the guilt of being wealthy, it's the guilt of being successful, it's the guilt of, oh my god, I'm so guilty, you know, I have too much money, I have too much this, stop it. Stop allowing people-

• 1:25:38Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, you think that the founder or the person that made the billions has, like, almost like survivor's guilt?

• 1:25:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so Henry Ford that started the charity, he felt guilty that he was too rich, so let's give some money away because that's the right thing to do, and you know what, let's extend the board. Let's extend, because these are nice people, and the people you extend the board to come back and tell you, no, you can't give money to a hospital you started, it's like, wait a minute, then I resign? No, we're not doing it that way.

• 1:26:02Adam Sosnick?

  I always find it so interesting, like, you see someone like Marc Benioff, how do you start from being an ultra-capitalist, and then becoming basically a socialist? Like, we talked about that Starbucks moving their headquarters?

• 1:26:12Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a lot of different things that you can go with that, but anyways, I, I, this was something on my mind this weekend. I want to let it out, let it out, to let the audience do whatever they want to do with it. By the way, let me go to this next one, then I'll come to you guys. Pull up the Shamad tweet if you could, Rob. Uh, pull up the Shamad to Tom, I'm gonna come to you first and then add him to you next. So here's Shamad. We know about the billionaire tax that California is talking about, right? 5%, but it's just the billionaires. Just the billionaires. And then Shamad Palapetia posts this tweet, that I retweeted. "The devil's in the what?" You ever hear the line, "The devil's in the what?" So the billionaire tax is actually on everyone tax. The billionaire tax, the new tax protocol written by four professors who don't believe in the American dream, some of them aren't even American, go figure, despite its name, it applies to every Californian resident who currently has assets or ever will.

• 1:26:57Patrick Bet-David?

  The creators named it the billionaire tax, so you would get in to a fraud and wouldn't look closely at what it actually does to you. On page 26, it explains how the government can convert to an everyone tax without voter approval. Bingo! Motive. They can also adjust the tax to be a yearly tax, not just a one-time thing. Again, without your what? Here's how the tax would work. As a voter, you're being asked to prove a tax that would require you to, one, list all your assets and the value of each, then submit them to California Franchise Tax Board. Two, authorize the tax board to appraise your assets and confirm the value of each. Three, pay a penalty of up to 40% of your tax bill if the board determines your reported value was too low in their opinion. Four, allow the tax board to subpoena

• 1:27:41Patrick Bet-David?

  your financial records from every one of your financial institutions for auditing. This every one tax runs 34 pages of shifty language describing how the government plans to take your assets. Read the fine print and decide for yourself. If this were truly a billionaire tax, it would be three pages. It's 34 pages so it can create the mechanisms to steal from all of you. Go a little bit lower, Rob, if he has the picture on there or not. I thought he did.

• 1:28:06Speaker 03

  California.

• 1:28:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I thought he did. So, Tom, before we find the picture, Tom, your thoughts on this? Because the average person's like, we should tax the billionaires more. Where do you stand with this?

• 1:28:15Adam Sosnick?

  Says, if you only vote on headlines, you deserve the fine print. If you read everything through and you're an informed voter, then you should be evangelizing and being an ambassador of truth in your circle around the people you work and you live and you go to church and soccer and everything else with. This reminds me of when Nancy Pelosi was cornered. Vinny, you remember this? Nancy Pelosi gets cornered on, what was the bill? The healthcare bill? Says, well, we'll know what's in it after we pass it. Do you remember that?

• 1:28:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:28:45Adam Sosnick?

  She gets cornered. Guess what? This is the same thing. This is not a coincidence. This is the way government works. The way government works is you run headlines to create emotions. This is the Democrat playbook. You run headlines to create emotion. People go, oh, my gosh. And they say, good news, we're taxing the rich. Bad news. Now I think you're rich. And that's the way this is working. And Chamath has pointed it out. This is government at its worst. This is the way we talked, Pelosi talked about it. Pat, I am unsurprised. I knew it was coming because I said, you just wait. It's gonna be, it's gonna be the opposite of Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders was, all the millionaires need to go, all

• 1:29:29Adam Sosnick?

  the millionaires need to go. And then it's all the billionaires, because Sanders became a millionaire. Remember? He shifted all of his rhetoric. And there's all those funny videos how he doesn't say millionaires anymore. He just says billionaires because he joined the club with three houses. Well, guess what? It's here. This is exactly what we said was going to happen. Pat, people got to be educated voters. Don't vote on headlines. Find out what it says. We've been taught to pick up juice. I see people picking up juice at Trader Joe's, at the supermarket, and I'll see them look at the back. And I have personally heard people saying, honey, that's not juice. That's 180 calories of sugar. I've seen it. So we're learning to do that. We have to do the same thing with the bills we're voting on.

• 1:30:13Adam Sosnick?

  Check the ingredients because it doesn't... Government is just not out to take from one or to impugn one. They're out to impugn and control all of us.

• 1:30:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, is that the page of what it says? I believe so. 25 of 32. 25 of 32? Where's the part that it says at any point? Did you find that part or no?

• 1:30:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Adam, I'll come to you. I'll look for this here right now. Adam, go for it.

• 1:30:39Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, we need to stop villainizing rich people. Because it's the easiest thing to do. Well, the rich people did it. Well, you know, the capitalists, it's their problem. The victim Olympics is a real thing. Let me tell you something. You know, every year I go to the Special Olympics. My friends put it on. You know, we have a problem with entitlement and welfare in this country. Let me tell you something. Unless you qualify to compete in the Special Olympics, meaning like you just literally can't take care of yourself, I don't want to hear about your problems. Nobody cares. The victim Olympics, the blame, why do the rich people do this? They can't do this. Remember when AOC showed up to like the Met Gala and taxed the rich? This is their whole notion right now.

• 1:31:24Adam Sosnick?

  I think there needs to be a new conversation in this country between what capitalism is and what socialism is. One of your most viewed things you've ever done, P P D, was the Jubilee debate. People would hit me up, you know, people like hit you up, oh, I saw this. Oh, I saw this. People were fascinated about that. Because that's a conversation that needs to happen. I truly believe that capitalists, the business owners, need to educate their workers how salaries work, how taxes work. Because if you ever hear the socialist talk, the Democratic Socialist of America talk, they talk about, we represent working people. Working people. That we're all working people.

• 1:32:03Adam Sosnick?

  Remember, you told a story about when Trump did his tax cuts. About, you said, however long you've been with me at the company. For every month you've been here, you're gonna get a hundred dollars. Is that the correct story?

• 1:32:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:32:16Adam Sosnick?

  So someone who's been working there for three years is, oh my god. Just got thirty-five hundred bucks, it's incredible. That, you know, they say, you say, don't show, tell is better to, what's the thing you always say?

• 1:32:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, I don't know, which one?

• 1:32:29Adam Sosnick?

  You say, don't, you say it's better to show than tell, essentially?

• 1:32:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:34Adam Sosnick?

  There's a phrase he always talks about.

• 1:32:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:32:36Adam Sosnick?

  But you showed them what it's like when you get a tax cut. You're gonna reap the benefits of it.

• 1:32:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:41Adam Sosnick?

  There's too much of a gap between the rich people and the working class. And I think a conversation is due to say,

• 1:32:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Those are two different things.

• 1:32:50Adam Sosnick?

  I'm paying you.

• 1:32:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:51Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, but the two different things, I see what you're saying, you're talking about the taxes. But the reason that the people are advocating for the taxes is because the poor people don't understand the benefit to the rich person, the job creator, the entrepreneur. They took the risk. They started this company and you have the benefit of it.

• 1:33:10Patrick Bet-David?

  No question about it. For me, when it comes down to a conversation like this, when they think they're just targeting billionaires, they're not targeting billionaires. Mamdani is not going after billionaires. Mamdani is, you know, he's a guy that he would like to eventually, in an ideal world, Mamdani would like to be a communist, is what he would like to be. He would like to get rid of all the billionaires. And he would like there to be no existence of any billionaires. I even think he said that in a past before, yeah. That he thinks we don't need billionaires, right? And many others have said that as well. The issue with affordability is something that we have, whoever is able to figure that part out is gonna win elections, whoever. The other day I had Dominic Targinsky on. And you know what's the one thing they do in Poland now? That they came up with three years ago?

• 1:33:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it's a brilliant idea, Vinny. It's, in Poland now, if you're twenty-six or younger, you pay no federal income tax.

• 1:34:05Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're 26 or younger, so if you make a hundred thousand dollars a year, guess how much you keep? A hundred thousand dollars. If you make a half a million dollars a year, you keep a half a million dollars. So I said, what if we did that for 30 or under? What if you're under 30, whatever you make, you keep? What if you did that? What would happen to the youth? And what if, what if you said, if you have four kids or more? If you have four kids or more, from the age your kids are zero to 18 years old, you pay no federal income taxes. Think about that for a second. But it's four kids, husband and wife, the two of you guys. Not like the Middle Eastern way. I'm talking like the traditional way.

• 1:34:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Four kids, right? I don't want you to accelerate it and go and say, let's practice polygamy so I can get four kids in one year because I'm making a hundred million this year. I want to accelerate the process.

• 1:34:55Adam Sosnick?

  Create a charity.

• 1:34:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but I do think there's gonna be someone in the next 12, 24, 36 months. That's gonna come out with some creative ideas to make sure the youth don't pay any taxes until they're 30 years old.

• 1:35:06Speaker 03

  Because you're, you're gonna incentivize that kid to hustle and bust their butt and make money and then you're gonna have other people to have a bunch of kids.

• 1:35:12Patrick Bet-David?

  It is a real issue. Can we get to the next car thing by Vinnie doesn't want to buy a car?

• 1:35:15Adam Sosnick?

  The thing I just want to give you credit, you always talk about, um, more is caught than taught. That's what I was thinking about. Did you hear what Bill Maher said? So if you want to go look at this story, Bill Maher basically called out Bernie Sanders about taxes. This, I think it's an important addendum to basically the story.

• 1:35:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I saw that.

• 1:35:33Adam Sosnick?

  Basically said, uh, last week was tax day.

• 1:35:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You were about to go to it.

• 1:35:35Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, last, I paid the government, if you add state, state tax, local tax.

• 1:35:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, right.

• 1:35:40Adam Sosnick?

  Sales property and Obamacare, probably almost 60% of what I earn in California. He said, while, while I'm sure the super rich with their army of accountants and corporate loopholes get away with murder, us regular rich people pay a ton of taxes. And here's the numbers, the top 10% of America pays 72% of all taxes. Top 10%, the bo, the bottom half, so the 50% of this country that's basically earning less than $40,000, do you know how much they pay in taxes? 3%. So this whole taxing the rich, taxing the rich, taxing the rich federally, where can they go? They'll leave the country. But if you do it in a state, how many people are going to leave California? You left California 13%. How many people leave New York? So more is taught than taught when it affects you.

• 1:36:24Patrick Bet-David?

  This is just the beginning. This is just the beginning. But let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is Trump abruptly cancels Kushner with cops Pakistan trip. And so they won't be going. And at the same time, the Iran guy Abbas Al Ghazi, I believe that's his name, he went to Pakistan, then went to Oman, and is in Russia. And I think he is meeting with Putin as we speak, if I'm not mistaken. Okay, that is going on right now as we speak. They just landed in Russia. They're about to meet with Putin. Allegedly is the story that we keep reading about that this may be taking place right now. Trump also said he's taking the nukes off the table with Iran. He doesn't have any interest in doing anything with nukes. And if you go in the market, look what the market's

• 1:37:05Patrick Bet-David?

  doing today. Gold is back up to 96. I don't know where it's at. Not gold. Oil is back up to 9630. Market's down slightly. Nothing major. It's down slightly. But oil is up. So in a part of this oil story, Tom, I'm going to come to you, is I think it's in the addendum with what the oil is doing. Trump claims Iran's oil infrastructure may explode in three days due to US blockade. So Rob, if you have that clip, go for it. Right there. Can't hear anything, guys.

• 1:38:08Speaker 06

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• 1:38:38Speaker 00

  But what you're referring to is that when, when you have, you know, lines of vast amounts of oil pouring through your system, if for any reason that line is closed because you can't continue to put it into containers or ships, which has happened to them. They have no ships because of the blockade. What happens is that line explodes from within, both mechanically and in the earth. It, something happens where it just explodes. And they say they only have about three days left before that happens. And when it explodes, you can never, regardless, you can never rebuild it the way it was. In other words, it will always be, if you rebuild it, it's hard to rebuild it all,

• 1:39:21Speaker 00

  but it would only be about 50% of what it is right now. So it's a very powerful thing that takes place, sort of having to do with nature. But when, when that gets clogged at the end, in other words, when you have to turn it off because you have no place to store this oil, either put it on ships or storage tanks, which they are just about finished with, a very bad thing's gonna happen. So I think they're under pressure, but...

• 1:39:47Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, so Iran's under tremendous just mechanical pressure. They need, I'm not gonna comment on the explode because I don't, I have not found the explosion comment, but I have found the, all of the comments regarding storage. Right now, you pump the oil out of the ground and you store it in these tanks. And then the, guess what? Empty tankers come up to Karg Island, they hook up, they take your crude oil and they go to wherever they go and they refine it into aviation fuel, gasoline, jet fuel, you know... All the kerosene, everything else that they need to make out of a barrel of oil. But, right now, once you've got an oil in motion, what I've been reading about,

• 1:40:29Adam Sosnick?

  once the oil is in motion, that a sudden halt creates a problem where they have to like restart the well and repump the well. Because remember, like in the US, we do fracking and stuff. And so there is mechanical things, Pat, that if they stop right now, number one, they're full, it means they can't offload it to anybody, which also means that they're not selling as much of it per day. And we've already talked about the, what is that, $444 million a day, or whatever it is. It's crazy. So, he's right, is they're coming up against an infrastructure deadline, where they have no place to put the oil, and if they shut

• 1:41:10Adam Sosnick?

  down the pumps, they're hard to restart, and there is certain damage that can be caused. And so they're really up against it. They need all of these empty tankers to immediately get to Karg Island, so that they can be offloading this stuff, that they're pumping into these storage facilities.

• 1:41:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, when you're reading this, it says, "Experts have warned that Iran could be forced to shut down its oil fields as early as April 29 because the US naval blockade risking long-term damage to its crude production." So that's because Tehran is effectively running out of storage space, like we talked about earlier. Both the Critical Threats Project of the American Enterprise Institute and Energy Aspekt, UK-based fuel analysts, from estimates that Iran's storage space will be up in the coming week, like now. And so, if that's going on, Tom, the question becomes the following: Is this one of the reasons why the president is just kind of cool, calm, and collected right now? Does he know that Iran is super desperate, and they can't, you know, they have no leverage? Because you

• 1:42:13Patrick Bet-David?

  know, Trump knows the cards. And it doesn't seem like he's pushing that hard. He's just kind of like, "Yeah, okay, take your time. You don't want to talk to us, no problem. We also won't come down." What could Russia do right now to help them to extend a life?

• 1:42:26Adam Sosnick?

  What could Russia do with-

• 1:42:28Patrick Bet-David?

  To help Iran, to have like a-

• 1:42:30Adam Sosnick?

  Russia needs to get in and say, buddy, you know, we need to be working together for the next century, and you're coming up against a very, very tough time. We gotta figure this thing out. You gotta figure this thing out. And I think that's why Trump is saying, we have all the cards. We've got five days, they've got five days. Our five days is we can wait. Their five days is a deadline. So if you think of it that way, our five days is patience, their five days is a mechanical oil pumping deadline. What could Russia do? Russia could help. Russia could say, look, I know I haven't been really as cooperative with Trump as I could have been, and I got my own Ukraine war going on, but you guys, you need to figure this out, and you need to figure it out in a hurry. I think, now, is Putin gonna call Trump and say, you know, Donald,

• 1:43:14Adam Sosnick?

  you know, Mr. President, what do you want me to do? That's not gonna happen. But I think, you know, Russia could be an intermediary, not for the US, but simply because they need Iran to be pumping, and Russia's other friend, China, is probably whispering around saying, hey, somebody, we gotta figure this out. We gotta figure this out. We need all those empty tankers to be at Carg Island to be pumping off right now. So I think it's Russia and China behind the scenes, Pat. They have to be. If you're dependent on Iran for oil, the way China is, you gotta be whispering right now. And supposedly, what, Putin was going to Oman, right?

• 1:43:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, exactly. Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:43:56Adam Sosnick?

  Well, if there's one thing we know about Trump is that he's ready to make a deal. That guy wants to make a deal, whether it's a real estate deal, whether it's a peace deal, whether it's a weapons deal, whether it's a financial deal, he's ready to make a deal. He also said he's in no rush. Think about that. Everyone's trying to give him like, you gotta hurry up, you gotta end this. He basically said, listen, we were in war in Afghanistan 20 years. We're in Iraq for almost a decade, whatever it was. Vietnam was X amount of years. World War III goes, we've been doing this six weeks, guys. Pump the brakes a little bit. By the way, there was also another quote, he goes, "Nobody's telling me what to do. Nobody. I'm doing, I'm making the decisions." "Whether you agree with him or not, that's on you, but it's on Trump." "But you know what this reminds me of, this whole Pakistan thing?"

• 1:44:38Adam Sosnick?

  "Remember when we had the live event for the Reagan movie with Dennis Quaid, right? "Great movie, great actor, giving a shout out to Reagan here." "They had a challenge when they were negotiating the nuclear peace deal with the US and the USSR "of getting USSR to the table." "And here's what we learned about the negotiation, goes, 'Just get them in the room.'" "If they're not in the room, what are we negotiating?" "So right now, we're just trying to get to the, the, the leaders of Iran, whoever they are, "whoever it is at this point." "You said it's this guy, uh, whatever his name is now." "It's not the supreme leader, he's dead, the supreme leader's son." I heard he's injured, I heard he's- He's getting a facelift apparently, missing a leg. "Okay, so we didn't even know who negotiating with."

• 1:45:23Adam Sosnick?

  Negotiator Abbas Aghaari? Yeah, this guy. So what happened was, this is what, and this is what I think will make Trump so unique. "You tell me if you guys agree." "What Reagan did is when he got them in the room, he killed them with kindness." "He did unreasonable hospitality." "And they felt, I mean, they were, these guys were Cold War enemies." "I would argue that, that Iran and US are actually worse enemies, because we're actually fighting." "US and USSR never fought." "But they got them to the table, he killed them with kindness, and they worked out a deal." "The whole thing with Iran, I think Jake Sullivan basically said when they were doing the, the, "the nuclear deal, he goes, 'You know they say trust but verify?'" "He goes, 'With Iran, don't trust and still verify.'" "Bottom line is, we gotta get them in the room, we have to figure out what they want."

• 1:46:07Adam Sosnick?

  "And Trump, if there's one person you trust in a room negotiating a deal, "it's Trump or his liaison." "And that's where I think this is gonna go."

• 1:46:16Speaker 03

  Um, yeah, I mean, like, dude, all the craziness, all the noise from the past two, three weeks. Now it's like, everything's just calm. Everything's like chill now because now it's like the chess moves that are being made right now are like now it's like real because think about it. These guys are traveling to, where are they right now? They're in Russia. Who? The Abbas and all these guys. Where'd they just land? I'm not sure. Rob, where was that?

• 1:46:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, yeah. He's in Russia now.

• 1:46:42Speaker 03

  They're, they're in Russia right now talking, by the way, because mind you, Russia's been, have you heard, I haven't heard Putin at all, Pat. I haven't heard anything from Xi Jinping. I've heard anything. We obviously know that they're doing stuff behind the scenes because they're so, you know, relying on, on Iran's um, oil, but I'm very, very interested to see what thi- this week is going to be a very, very telling week, Pat. I think this is gonna be, this is gonna be a week because what, what's that conversation like right now? What's the conversation like in Russia with Iran? You know what I mean? What are they talking about right now? So I'm very curious to see what the end of this week is gonna look like with that. What do you think it would be? I mean. What do you think Putin is saying to him? Tom, think about that, but think about that. We're, we're at war with them, us, Israel, Iran.

• 1:47:23Speaker 03

  And, and the, the quiet, uh, people in the war, uh, China and Russia haven't heard a peep. Now they're openly going to meet with them and I think that conversation is like, like, listen, whatever the hell's going on, whatever you guys need to do, you need to make this happen fast because we need the oil. They need the oil. This is all coming down to oil. Am I right, Tom? Oil and weapons and money. That's what I'm saying. Follow the money here. Yeah.

• 1:47:45Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll see. Let me get to the next story. Cars, okay? Effective 2027, Rob, what page is the car? I think that's on 26. 27, yeah. So this, this is a little weird. I want to actually get the audience's thoughts on this. So every new car could become a surveillance machine by 2027 and it may decide if you can drive. I mean, this is like, this is exactly what these movies, the surveillance movies talk about, like what you don't want it to be is what it's shown. So let's read this through. This isn't some distant concept or experimental feature that might, uh, come up in a few years. By 2027, every car sold in the U.S. could be required to actively monitor the person behind the wheel. That means watching your eyes,

• 1:48:29Patrick Bet-David?

  tracking your behavior and constantly evaluating whether you are alert enough to drive or not. For a lot of drivers, that starts to feel a lot less safe and more surveillance. So the law that's quietly changing cars.

• 1:48:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Tucked into a broader federal safety initiative is a requirement for impaired driving detection technology in all new vehicles. The goal, sounds simple enough, reduce crashes caused by drunk or fatigue drivers. It's a problem that has been around for decades, okay? And to do that, automakers will need to install a system that monitors drivers in real time. Vinny, your thoughts on this?

• 1:49:04Speaker 03

  Well, when's the last time we heard something like this? Do you guys remember after September 11th, they gave us the US, the Patriot Act?

• 1:49:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:49:11Speaker 03

  And they sold it as protection, Pat? Like, stop terrorism, keep everybody safe. Next thing you know, they collected all of our data on everybody. Every single American, they were like, well, guys, TER, the war on TER, that was Bush Junior, his favorite thing. But not, not the same idea, different excuse. Then it, back then it was terrorists, now it's unsafe drivers, but the move is the same. More surveillance, more control. That's why people don't trust this. And I'm not a fan, a fan of it. It sounds so good on paper. It's on nobody, I mean, you're a moron. You want drunk drivers on the road, but the part that people are waking up to, this isn't just gonna sit there quietly. It's collecting your data, a lot of it, and then, once that data exists, it doesn't just

• 1:49:53Speaker 03

  disappear, it gets stored, it gets analyzed, it gets potentially shared. Remember Tom, they're trying to do that predictive, like crime, pre-crime, if you're gonna do this, are you gonna kill somebody, like, and then they'll stop you? It's almost like a minority report. But insurance companies already want access to this kind of data, obviously. Regulators want more control, and now you have AI making judgment calls in real time. Um, and I'm just not a fan of it, Pat. Like, who's to say?

• 1:50:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:16Speaker 03

  My eyes are kinda yawning, or I'm not even yawning, Pat, I have something in my eye, I'm squinting, what, they're gonna monitor me and shut my freaking car off? I'm not a fan of it at all.

• 1:50:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen, a lot of Republicans voted for this. Anna Paulina Luna did not. She even tweeted about the saying, "I'm not part of this."

• 1:50:31Speaker 03

  I don't like it.

• 1:50:32Patrick Bet-David?

  But some 55 Republicans voted for this, and some of them said the reason for it is the mad, mothers against drunk drivers. So this is a way for us to protect the kids. Tom, what do you lie with this?

• 1:50:43Adam Sosnick?

  So, um, not well. Uh, I, I do not wanna take the autonomy from the human that owns that vehicle. There is already things like Mercedes. Mercedes will does a driver attention and it gives you a beep and it tells you you have to grab the steering wheel and it'll say like, are you dozing off? Take a break. So there's things in Mercedes that Mercedes has advertised broadly, even on the little basic Mercedes, Pat, where they detect if you're like maybe getting fatigued and the car starts reacting. But a car doesn't drive for you. I want to know how they're going to underwrite this. We know insurance. So if the car has the ability to take over for me if it thinks I'm in capacity and the car makes a mistake and has a collision with somebody,

• 1:51:26Adam Sosnick?

  who pays for that accident? Does Ford pay for the accident? I would argue I

• 1:51:30Patrick Bet-David?

  I wasn't driving.

• 1:51:31Adam Sosnick?

  I didn't cause the accident. So let me tell you, what closed the Strait of Hormuz? Lloyds of London. You could argue that the first closure of the Strait of Hormuz before everything started.

• 1:51:41Patrick Bet-David?

  These insurance people, man, they're always

• 1:51:43Speaker 03

  Those guys, man.

• 1:51:44Adam Sosnick?

  People careful for those guys. So I don't, I don't want to see this, but I think there's also a worse thing happening. What people need to understand is what's about to happen is your car is about to become a subscription service. You know, there's, that's just kind of the direction where it's going. You're going to buy the car and then you pay for the advanced subscription for all these things. Like you buy an iPhone and then you get an app, in-app purchases if you want to buy deluxe or all these other features. That's where the cars are going to be going. And that, just like full self-driving, you can pay a subscription to Tesla for that, if your car is equipped. But I, I don't like this because it's unproven and I really, full self-driving has to be, you know, fully in place and proven. Otherwise, what do we do?

• 1:52:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you this.

• 1:52:28Adam Sosnick?

  What do we do if a car makes a mistake?

• 1:52:29Patrick Bet-David?

  If they do this in 27, would you buy a 27 model or would you not buy it?

• 1:52:34Adam Sosnick?

  No. And by the way, things that the auto industry is already being shifty. Did you right now, know that right now, the auto industry is already testing not letting you work on your own truck, on certain trucks? Ford did it. So what it is, is you go in to do things and you want to, you'll work on your own brakes. It doesn't let the, the system retract. So you can't change brake pads. You can go read about this, how the auto industry is trying to prevent DIYs from going down to Autozone and picking up parts and working on their own vehicles.

• 1:53:09Speaker 03

  You have to pay for it from the dealership.

• 1:53:10Adam Sosnick?

  They want you to go to the dealer.

• 1:53:11Speaker 03

  And spend three times.

• 1:53:11Adam Sosnick?

  DIYs like me refer to it as the stealer.

• 1:53:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:53:14Adam Sosnick?

  They want to force you to go there. So there, there are things happening in, in the auto industry, Pat, that I am not in favor of. Um, safety things, you know, preemptive braking. I don't, I think these are good safety features, but now you're stepping over to take over for somebody. I, I don't know.

• 1:53:31Speaker 03

  And Tom, who's to say, let's just say, I don't know, a pandemic that comes out of a lab of somewhere that we own.

• 1:53:37Adam Sosnick?

  Rings a bell.

• 1:53:38Speaker 03

  Something happens like that, Tom, and the government taps in, Pat, and they go, guys, we don't want anybody driving today. And they just shut off every single vehicle.

• 1:53:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm good.

• 1:53:45Speaker 03

  I'm, yeah.

• 1:53:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I will go back to stick shift, 1980s BMW, two door, you know.

• 1:53:50Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, wait, do you remember the movie, The Kingsman?

• 1:53:52Speaker 03

  Kingsman.

• 1:53:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:53:53Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:53:54Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a great movie.

• 1:53:54Adam Sosnick?

  And Valentine, what Samuel Jackson was Valentine, the bad guy, and he sold everybody the chip in their phones. And then he caused the chips to go crazy. And there's this bizarre scene in the middle of it, to the, uh, to the song Free Bird by Skinnerd, because he caused all the chips to go crazy and impact all the people. That's exactly what you're talking about. You don't want, at some point on some day, some havoc to break out.

• 1:54:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:54:18Adam Sosnick?

  Well, let, let the car guy explain what's going on here, guys. Okay?

• 1:54:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 1:54:22Speaker 03

  Your Uber guy.

• 1:54:23Adam Sosnick?

  The Uber guy. Well, I genuinely think that the way that we as Americans, or being humans for that matter, the way that we interact with cars is completely changing, completely. And to me, it comes down to one of two things, control versus freedom. So I remember, do you remember the movie, when we had Jordan Peterson on, sort of might've been in like 2022?

• 1:54:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:54:43Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, I don't, I don't think he's doing well these days and giving him a shout out.

• 1:54:46Speaker 03

  How do you talk about control from the backseat?

• 1:54:47Adam Sosnick?

  So the, um, I remember asking, what kind of car do you drive? And he goes, yeah, I got this old, you know, Mercedes. I have a, you know. Top goes down, I do a thing, he goes, you know when we, when we won the, the Cold War? Speaking of that again, he goes, because they saw what type of way we lived our lives, it was our jeans, it was our Ford Mustangs, and people in Russia said, we want that, we want freedom. You know, what did they have in the USSR was all control. In America, you're top down, driving on the highway, doing this, you know, in California, it's all freedom. And basically, all this is basically coming down to is they're taking away your freedom, one little drip at a time.

• 1:55:30Adam Sosnick?

  So libertarians are not going to be happy about anything like this. By the way, you see what they do with social credit scores in China? The central bank, digital currencies, the CBDCs, it's all about control. It's all about control. Driverless vehicles, what are we going to do with that? So I don't know, but do you know who should definitely qualify for this? I don't think the average person, you know who should? Hundred percent, you know who should? If you're driving a work vehicle. Like if you're driving a truck on the highway? Oh, we want you, I want recording the whole time. It's almost like police cameras, police body cameras. Amazon has dash cams on their trucks for insurance and. Yeah, but you remember these stories like in California, some illegal immigrant is. That's how we know that the FedEx guy did that terrible thing with. So individuals, liberty.

• 1:56:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I think, I think if, I think that's a good point, if they're like, by the way, it's like saying right now, I'm recording mono.

• 1:56:23Adam Sosnick?

  He's got your car.

• 1:56:24Patrick Bet-David?

  He has so fun.

• 1:56:26Adam Sosnick?

  But in the Ubers, they're, they're recording.

• 1:56:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not with it, man. I'm, all I can tell you is, look, man, I'm just going to whisper something. Rob, can you type in Mercedes, Maybach SL680? Tom, have you seen this thing?

• 1:56:40Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 1:56:40Patrick Bet-David?

  SL680?

• 1:56:42Adam Sosnick?

  Mercedes.

• 1:56:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to images? I've never, ever thought I would be turned on by them, not that one. Go to the second one right there, look at that, Tom. Vinny, do you see that? Like the Maybach SL680?

• 1:56:56Speaker 03

  Is that?

• 1:56:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I saw two of them in the last couple of weeks. I don't know, man. I'm kinda like, don't be surprised if one of these guys appears out of nowhere.

• 1:57:03Speaker 03

  You know what? You know me and Humberto were looking at Humberto. What was the name of that Ford, the Mustang? Pat?

• 1:57:07Patrick Bet-David?

  The new one?

• 1:57:08Speaker 03

  Did you see the one? What's the really expensive one? Rob, there's a Ford Mustang, it's called a Dark Horse. Pat, what do you think about this one? Look at the images. Look at this thing. Damn! Look at that. How bad?

• 1:57:24Adam Sosnick?

  Ooh, it's like Batman, the dark.

• 1:57:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You know how much that is? About 120 grand, not that expensive.

• 1:57:28Speaker 03

  Guys, 120 grand. I think that's actually a little bit less too.

• 1:57:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, gorgeous.

• 1:57:32Speaker 03

  How sick is that with my truck?

• 1:57:34Adam Sosnick?

  Of all you guys?

• 1:57:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my god.

• 1:57:36Speaker 03

  I know Dilly's gonna love that one. It's called a Dark Horse.

• 1:57:38Adam Sosnick?

  Actually, I think I saw one of those stuck in the wheel well on the back of your truck. I think you hit one on I-95 and didn't know.

• 1:57:44Speaker 03

  I might have.

• 1:57:44Adam Sosnick?

  Of all you guys, who's the biggest car guy here? There's a cat stuck in the grill.

• 1:57:47Speaker 03

  Car guy?

• 1:57:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 1:57:48Adam Sosnick?

  Who's the biggest car guy here?

• 1:57:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom's not even close.

• 1:57:50Adam Sosnick?

  Tom's a car guy?

• 1:57:50Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not even.

• 1:57:51Adam Sosnick?

  Cause he's an F1 guy?

• 1:57:52Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no. None of us are as big of a car guy as Thomas. Thomas number one.

• 1:57:56Adam Sosnick?

  Tom's 10 out of 10?

• 1:57:57Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not even close.

• 1:57:58Adam Sosnick?

  What are you?

• 1:57:58Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm probably second.

• 1:58:00Adam Sosnick?

  But like, out of 10, if I'm a car guy?

• 1:58:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, you know, my reason would be I don't drive as much as I do anymore. So every time I think about buying a new car, I'm like, I'm not gonna drive it anymore. So what the hell am I gonna be doing? So part of it is kind of annoying.

• 1:58:10Adam Sosnick?

  You're a car guy, Vinny? You're a truck guy now.

• 1:58:13Patrick Bet-David?

  But can we have a moment? Like, I wanna have a Bible study moment, if you don't mind.

• 1:58:16Adam Sosnick?

  Let's do it.

• 1:58:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you pull up that clip? Because to me, this was known as the greatest moment of Bible study we had in America in 2026. I thought it was great. But, the moment of pause, so here's Russell Brand. Who, our boys love this guy from Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Oh, not the shirt!

• 1:58:38Adam Sosnick?

  Take my eyes!

• 1:58:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Not the shirt!

• 1:58:41Speaker 03

  Just watch that how many times?

• 1:58:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and then it's just the song, he sings, he, so. Yeah, exactly. So, but this is Pierce Morgan asking a very innocent question, saying, is that the Bible you took to court?

• 1:58:53Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And, I would have never guessed something. By the way, this probably got hundreds of millions of views. Literally, it got hundreds of millions of views.

• 1:59:00Speaker 03

  It made me uncomfortable.

• 1:59:01Patrick Bet-David?

  So, go ahead. Here's Pierce Morgan and Russell Brand. Go ahead, Rob. Can I go back to asking you a question about your Bible? Yes, if you want to. Okay. Was that the one you took into court? Yeah, the very one. Okay. What was your thinking of taking it into court? And what you were seeing, looking at some passages, what were the relevant passages for you? Alright.

• 1:59:18Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you for asking me. Thank you. That didn't hurt.

• 1:59:24Adam Sosnick?

  I feel like it's like a movie scene.

• 1:59:27Adam Sosnick?

  Um, it was this from Isaiah. Isaiah. You're right. Beer did say, you know, be chilled. I just didn't know you pronounced Isaiah that way. Lose the chill, man. This creep.

• 1:59:40Speaker 03

  Pierce is brilliant, just crying.

• 1:59:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And then he looks into the camera.

• 1:59:44Adam Sosnick?

  It's this.

• 1:59:51Adam Sosnick?

  They don't like that.

• 1:59:51Speaker 03

  It has to be, it had to be, this has to be.

• 1:59:53Patrick Bet-David?

  You think he's good as on purpose?

• 1:59:56Adam Sosnick?

  This is from Isaiah.

• 1:59:58Speaker 03

  Isaiah.

• 2:00:01Speaker 03

  Or Johan. Why I call him John.

• 2:00:04Adam Sosnick?

  Johan.

• 2:00:07Adam Sosnick?

  Excuse me.

• 2:00:12Speaker 03

  I had to walk away.

• 2:00:13Patrick Bet-David?

  A part of me is, is he trolling?

• 2:00:15Speaker 03

  Trolling him?

• 2:00:17Adam Sosnick?

  You don't troll God like that.

• 2:00:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this, look at this, look at Pierce.

• 2:00:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Got, this is still going, it's a minute twenty.

• 2:00:24Speaker 03

  It has to be a joke. Look at, I respect Pierce so much. Just let it, let it simmer.

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• 2:01:38Adam Sosnick?

  It says here. The verse that I was looking at that day was...

• 2:01:47Adam Sosnick?

  Not this, I can't actually find the verse that I had that day. But this is good enough. This is from Isaiah 12. Does he actually end up giving a quote?

• 2:01:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, he reads Isaiah.

• 2:02:01Adam Sosnick?

  Where was it? What was Isaiah 12?

• 2:02:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, listen, honestly, these are moments on TV. Everybody has moments. The longer you're on, if you're gonna create content, and you're gonna be on TV.

• 2:02:11Speaker 03

  It's gonna happen.

• 2:02:11Patrick Bet-David?

  It's gonna happen to you. No one's free from it.

• 2:02:13Speaker 03

  You know Russell responded as a funny thing. He's like, "I'm still looking for it." If you go to his Instagram, Rob, is that it, Rob? I think, but this is actually funny. He goes...

• 2:02:23Patrick Bet-David?

  This is him?

• 2:02:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, on the bottom right. What?

• 2:02:26Adam Sosnick?

  Passage, actually, from Isaiah. From Piers Morgan. Wait for it, wait for it. Look, it was marked all along. This is it. Sorry, when I was on Piers Morgan the other day, I was looking for it. I thought I should find the actual right passage, the exact one that I was looking at.

• 2:02:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it.

• 2:02:49Speaker 03

  I, listen, okay. I think it was real. He was lost in the sauce. By the way, the Bible, unless you have something like pointing out, Pat, written, like court, something, it's so many books, it's so many, you know, different verses. I mean, you would think somebody would memorize it. But that aside, I mean, I still respect that he's, you know, before podcasts, he's praying, he's changed his life, he's, you know, he's trying to be a better person. I mean, what he said about the, you know, 16-year-old and 30-year-old with the... What was it, Rob? That he said, you know, it was consent or he was living a different life? I don't agree with that one at all, but he's trying.

• 2:03:27Patrick Bet-David?

  What is that?

• 2:03:28Speaker 03

  There was a, there was, he was on...

• 2:03:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the Megyn Kelly clip.

• 2:03:31Speaker 03

  The Megyn Kelly clip with that, like, that kind of threw me off.

• 2:03:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have that, Rob?

• 2:03:35Speaker 03

  I do. Yeah, can you put, yeah, why, and why you looking at that? Because you, you know where I stand. Anybody that's trying to be better, anybody that's in the book, anybody that's trying, I, I, I commend them and I pray for them, um, cause he is, I don't think he's a fake. He's not being a fake Christian. He's actually, I could see the Holy Spirit in him, but like,

• 2:03:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:03:53Speaker 03

  Still messed up.

• 2:03:54Adam Sosnick?

  In Europe and in the United Kingdom where I'm from, the age of consent is 16 and I did sleep with a 16 year old when I was 30, but when, when I was 30, I was a very different person. I was a lot younger and I was an immature 30 year old. Consentual sex actually with a variety of people, when there is a strong power differential, as there is when you're a famous man that has the ability to attract women that I had at that time. I think involves exploitation. I think it is exploitative.

• 2:04:26Speaker 03

  Impossible. Like, so, and again, A, coming clean, saying it, being honest about it, I'm all for that. Number two, the thing itself, it's not illegal there, but just as a man, I don't think at 30 years old, I was ever thinking about anything with a 16 year old. That's just me personally.

• 2:04:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 2:04:44Adam Sosnick?

  So every now and then God shows up and I remember, and I think that sometimes celebrities have to be very careful when they put the, uh, Christian faith or any faith for that matter out and somebody who's knowledgeable asks you a question. I think Russell Brand right there in that clip with Meghan was trying to, to not, you know, I, I think he was trying to explain the situation. He was saying, hey, I don't think what I did was right. I don't think it was there. Al Gore was asked, Pat, while they were, he was trying to show that he's so in with the Christians. He was asked, and we can find it somewhere, what his favorite, one of, one of his most notable or favorite verses is, and he said, show it to me, Rob, John 16, 3. He scrambled John 3, 16. He meant to say John 3, 16

• 2:05:27Adam Sosnick?

  because he sees that on T-shirts. He said John 16, 3 and John 16, 3 is, they will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. Al Gore did it.

• 2:05:42Adam Sosnick?

  And it was like, everybody blew up for a week because it was like, you stupid punk. It's like,

• 2:05:51Patrick Bet-David?

  But look, Tom, listen,

• 2:05:52Adam Sosnick?

  Is that great? And by the way, it's not just Al Gore. Anybody that tries to go out-

• 2:05:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, they asked the president.

• 2:05:58Adam Sosnick?

  Try to look the part.

• 2:05:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you see when they asked the president what he said about scripture? Have you ever seen that?

• 2:06:02Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, no.

• 2:06:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, this is 90% of people, maybe even more, when you ask him, what's your favorite scripture? You know, some will say, you know, my favorite scripture is, never, ever give up. That's Churchill's. While it's somewhere in the bible, it's great.

• 2:06:20Adam Sosnick?

  Never, never, never.

• 2:06:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but Adam, your thoughts, because I know you're very close to this.

• 2:06:25Adam Sosnick?

  Of course. Well, listen, I don't know anybody other than Russell Brand that's basically caused a frenzy on Piers Morgan that maybe he didn't over-deliver. I don't know anybody that would fall into that category. So shout out to you and congratulations, Russell Brand, for going back in your bible and founding Isaiah. Wait, wait, wait. I just thought of another guy. Tom, stop it.

• 2:06:48Adam Sosnick?

  But listen, shout out to him for showing up. Shout out to him for basically owning what he's done. I guess technically, legally speaking, what he did when he was 30 with a 16-year-old is legal. But from a moral perspective, that's completely disgusting. 16 years old, you're 30? Unbelievable. Although there's, I think, 35 states in America where 16 is legal. It's a weird loophole. But I will give him credit. How do you know the number? I will give him credit. Tom, why do you keep talking when I'm talking? What is your deal, buddy? One thing- Habit and tradition? Was it? I'll stop talking. Go ahead. Answer for me. I said it's habit and tradition.

• 2:07:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I like that. Habit and tradition.

• 2:07:27Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. Anyway, speaking of creepy people, thank you, Tom. What we're solving for, I guess, what Russell Brand is doing is for progress, not perfection, that you always talk about, right? But listen, Russell, I get it. You're creepy. I'm surrounded by creepy people sometimes. Just do better. Right, Tom?

• 2:07:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that was awkward. But okay. All right, so let's go to the last one here. Trevor Bauer throws a no-hitter.

• 2:07:51Adam Sosnick?

  What a joke.

• 2:07:51Patrick Bet-David?

  For who? The Long Island Ducks.

• 2:07:54Adam Sosnick?

  Nice.

• 2:07:55Patrick Bet-David?

  In just second US start since 2021. This is him. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:07:58Adam Sosnick?

  Long Island Ducks. Bauer's 2-2.

• 2:08:03Adam Sosnick?

  Fastball taken on the outside, corner strike three called. It's a no hitter for Trevor Bauer. The third no hitter in Long Island Ducks history and the 10 year major league veteran gets it done here in Lancaster. As Long Island wins it 13 to nothing.

• 2:08:22Patrick Bet-David?

  13 nothing.

• 2:08:23Adam Sosnick?

  Behind a seven inning shutout.

• 2:08:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna make a crazy bold prediction. Is what I'd like to see happen is I'm talking as a fan, not as a minority owner of the Yankees. So don't take this, these two and confuse the two. I, I'd like to see, see him before the end of the year, be a Yankee. And I wouldn't be surprised if it happens. I would love that. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens because I think we learned from this other team, uh, who used to be in the city called Brooklyn. Who they couldn't handle it in Brooklyn. It was too much pressure. They're called the trolley dodger. Trolley dodger. And they moved to the city called LA. Yes. The worst fan. You know which one is what I'm talking about. They have the worst all fans in the world. The, the Los Angeles, they dodge a lot of things. They dodge a lot of. A lot of things. First it was trolleys and now it's just.

• 2:09:10Patrick Bet-David?

  They don't want to smoke. So they dodge Brooklyn and then they go and they move to LA. Yeah. And their fans, which by the way, this year for some of you guys that, uh, would like to go to the Yankees Dodgers game with us. Uh, go to bedavid.com and fill out your information. I think we got, we, we have three suites at one of the games that we go to. And, uh, we're going to spend a lot of time together, dinner, conversation, strategy session, but go to bedavid.com, fill out the information, somebody will get ahold of you. Is there even a phone number there, Rob? I think we have a phone number for people to call, uh, to get, go all the way to the bottom, go all the way to the bottom, go all the way to the, is there a phone number? There should be a phone number. Anyways, maybe go to vaultconference.com. There may be a phone number because we do have a phone number for them to call.

• 2:09:50Patrick Bet-David?

  But I think that, you know, we learned from the Dodgers, how important pitching is. We learned last year, yeah, if you want to learn more about joining us at the Yankees, call 561-821-8130, 561-821-8130.

• 2:10:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So pitching is it and the Yankees, you know, if this season ends up being a full season. Cause we know the collective bargaining agreement. We know that could be a strike. The base is nasty right now. Of what could happen, but if it's a full season and Bauer comes in. His opening day, he's pitching. If we got nothing going on, we're flying out to go see him pitching opening day. Okay. When he won the Cy Young, what did he call it? The Mickey Mouse award?

• 2:10:33Adam Sosnick?

  Mickey Mouse Cy Young. He came out and he sat on a kind of a lawn chair, just sitting out there, just at Cincinnati, I believe it was. And he said, that's a Mickey Mouse Cy Young.

• 2:10:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:10:43Adam Sosnick?

  And boy, that and other things caused baseball to get upset with him. But this guy is one of the best. You know, I'll tell you, he should not only be in baseball as a pitcher, Pat. He will be probably one of the best pitching strategists and pitching technicians in history. If they let him become a pitching coach, because his knowledge of just mechanics, grip and change.

• 2:11:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Rotation, the velocity.

• 2:11:09Adam Sosnick?

  He's a genius.

• 2:11:10Patrick Bet-David?

  He is a genius.

• 2:11:10Speaker 03

  And look what he's been, but look at what the, the girl that tried to literally destroy his life, come to find out that it was all nonsense.

• 2:11:19Adam Sosnick?

  Pasadena DA or LADA, whatever.

• 2:11:20Patrick Bet-David?

  All BS.

• 2:11:21Adam Sosnick?

  Similar to the, similar to the Duke DA.

• 2:11:23Speaker 03

  All, all BS and you want to talk about never giving up and fighting and like going to the leagues, wherever, where was he? Was he in another, was he in Mexico playing at some point?

• 2:11:33Adam Sosnick?

  He won, he won a world series.

• 2:11:35Speaker 03

  He won a world series and look at this cat coming back pitching. Good for him, bro.

• 2:11:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to see him pitch.

• 2:11:40Speaker 03

  Good for him.

• 2:11:40Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, I could care less about the pitching. I know that that's your focus. The, the, the real story to me is this guy. Lost how many hundreds of millions of dollars?

• 2:11:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Two, three hundred million dollars.

• 2:11:50Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. Accused.

• 2:11:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:11:52Adam Sosnick?

  Was never found guilty. The whole believe all women thing. No, exonerating. That's just not found guilty. Exonerating. Thank you, Tom. I wouldn't have been able to communicate a sentence without your brain. The point is this, he's been, he's been. His, his reputation has been through the mud. He's completely been thrown out of baseball, but he still keeps going. And by the way, was there any accountability for the women that wrongfully accused?

• 2:12:17Speaker 03

  Or the girl that, I think it was one girl.

• 2:12:19Adam Sosnick?

  To me, there's a bigger story here than baseball. It's that there's going to be things that come into your life. They're going to basically ruin your entire existence. And you, and you fall down 10 times or get up 11 or stay down. So I give him a major shout out for coming back and pitching a no hitter.

• 2:12:33Patrick Bet-David?

  We're going to follow the story very closely. And the day he plays, if it's the Yankees, we're going to go to the game. The day he plays, if it's the Yankees, it'll be a great story.

• 2:12:43Speaker 03

  I don't care if I'm getting my height surgery that I'm trying to get to make myself.

• 2:12:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I didn't want to say that publicly.

• 2:12:47Speaker 03

  What the hell are you laughing at, Rob?

• 2:12:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I wasn't going to announce it publicly.

• 2:12:50Speaker 03

  If that hat won, even if they're like, hey, it's on that day, I'm going.

• 2:12:53Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:12:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 2:12:54Adam Sosnick?

  Congratulations, buddy.

• 2:12:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I gotta jump on a quick flight and I'll be back this afternoon. But tomorrow, Rob, do we have anything tomorrow or no?

• 2:13:01Adam Sosnick?

  We do.

• 2:13:02Patrick Bet-David?

  We do. Do I know it or no?

• 2:13:04Adam Sosnick?

  We recorded it during a back damage.

• 2:13:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh shoot, that's right. Armon, UFC, Armon Sarukyan, that goes out tomorrow. That's going to be sick. The guy's funny.

• 2:13:13Adam Sosnick?

  I like him.

• 2:13:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Guy's funny, like, you know, and it's the fight everybody wants to see.

• 2:13:16Adam Sosnick?

  Funny how, Pat?

• 2:13:17Patrick Bet-David?

  And against Toporia, against Toporia. Anyways, gang, do your thing. We will see you tomorrow and then again on Wednesday Business, Business Wednesdays. Take care, everybody. God bless. Bye bye, bye bye.