Trump vs Canada, Iran Hit with New Sanctions & Florida Cracks Down on SNAP | PBD Podcast #850

Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team break down three power plays with global consequences. Trump escalates tensions with Canada by proposing a new name for Lake Ontario, Iranian state media releases a disturbing video targeting Barron Trump, and Meta faces an $18 billion reckoning over allegations that it failed to protect children. 🎟️ SECURE YOUR 2026 VAULT TICKETS: https://bit.ly/4xU2SCW 👞 GET THE FLB1's: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6 🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: https://bit.ly/4mFBPpw Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: http://kalshi.com/pbd SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT: https://youtube.com/@VALUETAINMENT @ValuetainmentComedy: https://youtube.com/@ValuetainmentComedy ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of two boys and two girls. He currently resides in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

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  For you.

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  In The Hangover.

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  And I'm telling you all the time, and I watch comedy. That character, he is in the top five of the funniest characters. I would go back and watch it again, and again, and again, it's that funny. Anyway, great to have you on, great to have you on, great to have you here.

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  It's great to be here, man, I miss you guys.

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  Yeah, I love, you know, by the way, Brian was here at 7:30 in the morning. We were all showing up late. He was like, guys, where is everybody? And we're like, all right, Brian's here.

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  I had to get a workout.

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  We got, you know, we were ready to go. We got a lot of stories to cover with you guys today. Uh, there's a story about dad brain. Have you heard about this dad brain concept? We're gonna talk about this dad brain concept. It's an interesting story that I think you're gonna appreciate. It says, what happens to men when they become dads? There's a few things that happened to us when we become dads. Last night, we're having dinner with a friend, doctor of ours. And, uh, you know, Tom starts telling the doctors, like, look, can you find a nurse for Vinnie? And then he says, look, you have to know, you got looks or you get a doctor. You don't get both. Most doctors are not attractive. So I'll sell her for a nurse. Do you know a pretty nurse? Send us this way.

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  By the way, I'm gonna do an exercise, stay tuned, of anybody you know, cuz I now know Vinnie's clear qualification for what he wants in a wife. We're gonna create a site, add them in there, and then we, maybe, listen, maybe you're gonna be the person that's gonna help Vinnie find his wife, and then we'll figure this out. But I finally figured out what he wants and what he's not into. The one criteria, and I don't know why you said this, I never understood it till, but I've never asked it cuz I don't wanna insult you. It's privacy. He said, no Somalis. I don't know what that means. That was the only thing he said he's not into. Anything else, he's game, no Somalis, yeah.

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  It's not that bad. They run good daycare centers.

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  So, few stories, few stories. Number one, Iranian sanctions, Iranian sanctions, Operation Economic Outcast, trying to destroy Iran economically. Rubio said strikes over sanctions. And the way they're doing it, it's very interesting because Turkey and Pakistan, that are tied to the sanctions, just did a new trade deal with Iran. So the timing's kinda weird, and I think they're only going after you like three or four different countries. They wanna suffocate Iran in ways they've never done it. Kaochi came out today, and you guys remember this good-looking guy who was very, you know, Vinnie does it really good when he goes like this, you know, this Newsom guy? He was first on Kaochi. He's officially not even second.

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  Asof and AOC are now ahead of him on Kaochi. Newsom is down to 13%. This is what happens when you have no clue what you stand for. It's not even the awe, you know what it is? What the hell do you stand for? One minute you're socialist, one minute you're this. Just say what you're stand for and go make your arguments. And then Dolly Parton and Jelly Roll will get into that, obviously. May she rest in peace. She was an absolute legend. Certain people, you can use the word legend, and it's qualified legend. Dolly was a legend. This past week, Jelly Roll stepped in for Jimmy Kimmel. There was a lot of people that were not happy about some of the jokes. I thought a couple of the jokes were funny, but I think something he did on the second day was, he probably didn't need to do it. Why do that? I mean, why lose that audience?

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  We'll talk about that, I'm curious how you guys feel about this. Trump posted a tweet yesterday as the greatest president of all time. Did you see this one or no? And then great, and then average, and then below average. And he added a category, but people don't know the story behind it. We will talk about what the story behind it is. But again, he's trying to piss a lot of people off. I got a clip talking about OutKast. OutKast, Andre3000, which to me, he's in my top five. I mean, I can tell you, I listened to OutKast's album over and over and over, thousands of times. In a podcast, he explains why men above 45 shouldn't rap. And the way he breaks it down, have you seen this? I haven't seen it. It is the funniest thing he says. I just wanna raw, I wanna see how you're gonna react to it. It's hilarious.

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  That's great.

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  And then we got a couple other stories here, we gotta get into Florida. You guys ready for this? Very weird, very weird. So they say, hey, Snap all of a sudden cuts back that you can't order soda and all this other stuff. They're changing. Story comes out yesterday that apparently soda sales is down 12 to 13% because of Snap. Crazy.

• 4:55Speaker 02

  Wait, Snap? What is Snap?

• 4:57Speaker 00

  So Snap was like the food stamps. The ATM cards for food that the, uh... So now, soda's been impacted because of the changes that you can't just go buy anything. By the way, in Florida, check this out. Florida's the first state, this is a little bit of a weird story. I kept asking Connor, are you sure this is a real story? Watch this. Florida's the first state to prevent folks who get welfare to use that welfare cash to get tattoos, vapes, video games, and porn.

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  Not a terrible idea. Right? I mean, am I being, if I'm, if I'm giving you money, if I'm giving my kid money to say, don't spend this on porn and video games?

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  Yeah, I mean, listen, it's a, but think about it, it's taxpayer money. Yeah, go get a tattoo, Vinnie, on taxpayer. Why not? Go smoke some, you know, vape, and go get some video games and watch some porn on the house because tax pay. Just to lower your stress level that you have. Lindsey Clancy, there's a story of a man that says, listen, he called off the wedding because the wife was like, she, it's not her fault. So the guy's like, wait, what? Yeah, you wanna have kids with that? You want me to have kids with you? I'm calling off the wedding, so it was like the runaway bride, except it wasn't, uh, what was the girl's name, Julia Roberts?

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  Julia Roberts.

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  It's runaway. It's a man that's running away. Hassan Piker came and said something, which I don't even know if it's a good thing to say, but it's good for the world to hear. He said, he loves the fact that everything this, uh, what's this character? Bragz El Said is faking moderation to scam voters. He said that. So I lead a little bit of honesty from Hassan Piker to say something like that. Really honest. Maybe we'll react to that. Jesse Waters talked to, uh, uh, what's his name again?

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  El Said.

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  Good-looking guy, he's a very well-spoken guy, doctor.

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  Football player.

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  Football player, yeah, he's, he's got, you know, he's talking. Uh, and he asked Jesse if he's circumcised, and Jesse's reaction is like, bro, why are you asking me this private question? But it's, we have to play the clip, I'm curious to know what you guys think. Canadian tariffs, so just so you guys know,

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  Tom's, if you notice, Tom's a little bit off today and a little bit upset. Just so you know, this is, this is, Tom's been furious with this whole Canadian tariffs. You know, now Canada's coming back, and they're saying they're not gonna provide some electricity, and that's their threat, carny, and, you know, this guy Ford, who's playing tough guy. And yesterday, like, you know how we have PBS and NPR? They have CBC. You know what they said yesterday on CBC? Did you hear about this?

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  I think one of them said, kiss my ass.

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  No, on CBC, yesterday, they said, we can no longer say that 9/11 was a terrorist attack.

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  What?

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  Yesterday, on their national TV, that's taxpayer-funded, said 9/11 was not a terrorist attack. Yesterday, I'll show you the clip. Mark Cuban says, we need to give more equity to employees and companies, which we agree in, but he says, if you don't do it, we should tax them higher, which that's the conversation. Josh Shapiro said something to RFK about measles, and Vinnie lost his shit, so we gotta react to that. And then, uh, maybe we'll get into a couple other stories that we'll get into, but, you know, the good news today is, we can go for quite some time, so we're gonna cover a lot of different stories. Now, here's the big news I wanna announce to you guys that a lot of people have been waiting for. Remember earlier this year, we made some adjustments on our merch? And we had certain things that, because of the shoes and all this other stuff that was going on. Let me tell you what the big announcement is.

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  It's so sick. I love that logo.

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  husband, your sons. And we're excited about this next venture that we're going on with FLB. All right. Having said that, let's get right into it. The first story I want to start off with, I kind of like when we're doing things that's getting people to be healthier. I like that. So there's a story that comes out yesterday, talking about SNAP. And we know what SNAP stands for. Tom, can you tell the rest of us what SNAP stands for?

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  SNAP is Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, and it's an EBT card that the government gives to people who are on welfare. And the government refills it, and then they can take it into the grocery store and use it.

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  Yeah. And so we, taxpayers, provide that opportunity for folks who are going through challenging times. And of course, there's a lot of abuse with it. There's a lot of money that's spent. And at the same time, some people said RFK is like, why don't we not allow people to use SNAP to buy stuff that's not good for them? And so some business owners that make a lot of money off SNAP, school, you know, going out there buying Coke, buying soda, they're like, wait, this is not a good idea. Why are they just saying it's not a good idea? Well, then the numbers finally came out. Check this out. This is a Zero Hedge article. They do a great job there. Soda purchases slumped 13% after SNAP sugary drink restrictions. Soda purchases fell 13% after 10 states restricted sugary drink

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  purchases with SNAP funds in 2026. For an August National Bureau of Economic Research study, not yet peer reviewed, covering about 5,000 SNAP holders, before the ban, the average SNAP household bought about 185 ounces of soda a month, roughly 15 cans. The 13% drop equals two fewer cans notably household with enough cash to bypass the restriction, still cut soda consumption 18 and a half percent. When states labeled soda unapproved, it acted as a powerful psychological signal instead of bypassing the ban with cash. Families reconsidered their habits. The sugar impact is unclear, but a 2024 study forecast up to 20% of soda

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  decline, but a 7% juice increase, meaning just a 7% overall cut in the beverage intake. SNAP distributed $122.6 billion to 42 million families in fiscal 2025. As of August 23, states have restriction waivers, the first time the USDA has ever granted them. This is massive, because now we're seeing the direct impact to businesses, just based on 10 states. Imagine this goes to 50 states. Tom, why is this story so important?

• 13:38Speaker 04

  This is important because there is a direct correlation between obesity and excess sugar intake, and the sodas are part of that. So if we're providing SNAP to people who are unfortunately, you know, in a welfare situation, and you want to help them go in to get, you know, food, fruits, vegetables, and things, you don't want them loading up on soda. Because it leads directly to diabetes, it leads directly now to Medicaid cost for insulin. This is the beginning of where it goes. And you know what? Food companies have lobbyists, big, big lobbyists. And they work Washington, Pat, and they work the states to get their food onto the SNAP program.

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  Into schools, too, by the way.

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  And to get this, thank you very much, correct? They give you a big fist bump there.

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  Ooh, Cali, get a fist bump. It's called seasoning. I give a little seasoning.

• 14:33Speaker 04

  No, no, no, yeah. From the husband here of a school teacher who hates the fact that you can see Coke machines in schools, because kids will have a sugar crash right after lunch, and you're trying to teach them. This is good, Pat. This is good because it aims toward, they're only buying nutritious stuff, and it got to get in front of big food. There's also Big Pharma, there's also big food, and they are out there trying to get things onto SNAP. Candy bars, sodas, and all that should not be.

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  What do you think about that?

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  But same thing. Look, you've got Oreo that has the deep fried Oreo, just in case you missed. If the Oreo's not enough, let's deep fry it. Now they're coming up with the Oreo. KFC and Oreo did a collab. I don't know, it's very exciting. You can eat an Oreo that tastes like an Oreo and tastes like a piece of KFC chicken.

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  That's it. Look at that.

• 15:23Speaker 02

  But there's no, but there's no chicken meat in the cookie. That'd be too healthy.

• 15:26Speaker 03

  Is this a joke? No, this is absolutely.

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  Listen, I had to look it up.

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  Are you serious?

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  I had to look it up.

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  This is not a meme.

• 15:32Speaker 02

  No, this is not a joke. This is where the pharmaceutical companies say, they come and they go, look, we're losing, look, we're making a fortune on GLP drugs, but people aren't as diabetic. We got to bring that back up so we can make some money. I'm not saying, but they probably went.

• 15:44Speaker 04

  Is GLP profitable?

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  You think?

• 15:46Speaker 04

  Yeah. So do you think maybe some GLP lobbyists, some GLP profits are going to lobbyists who are actually lobbying for the food side?

• 15:53Speaker 02

  I'm not saying that. I'm just saying when you start losing money on your diabetic, on your diabetes medication, maybe you go to the food company and say, can you come up with something even more addictive and more delicious?

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  Can you run a poll?

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  And then the insulin companies are like grim.

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  Give me one second. Can you run a poll in the back and ask people how many sodas they drink per month? How many sodas they drink per month? Just ask zero, put one to five, five to 10, 10 plus. Let's run a poll and see how much people drink. Because I'm curious to know. By the way, just to kind of give you guys some numbers on where, what states are already implementing this. Nebraska started the first of this year, soda and energy drinks, first ever waiver, and energy drinks that you can. Number two, Indiana started January 1, soft drinks and candy. Utah, the January 1, soft drinks only. West Virginia, soda and soft drinks. Idaho, soda and candy. Oklahoma, soft drinks and candy. Louisiana, soft drinks, energy drinks and candy.

• 16:49Speaker 02

  Good.

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  Texas, sweetened drinks and candy. Florida, soda, energy drinks, candy, and prepared dessert. Arkansas, soda, drinks under 50% juice, energy unhealthy drinks and candy. These are the states that are coming up from August 31st and on. South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, Ohio, Virginia, Wyoming, Kansas, Missouri, and Hawaii are all planning on implementing this plan.

• 17:11Speaker 02

  This is good.

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  And the only bright blue state is Hawaii.

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  But to your point, too, these are strong lobbies. And people are going to lose money. But you know, this is, this is a very interesting thing. This is where you say to yourself, this is, this is the one thing government is doing well. There's not a lot of programs.

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  But the part is this, like, when I was in the military, I got into a debate with one of my friends 20 years ago, Devine. When I was in the military, they would say, if your social, the last four, your social starts with the number four, step up. All right, what are we doing? Go ahead, we're going to do a drug test. And we would go do a drug test. A guy's watching you, boom, hey, Jackson, you're smoking weed, boom. Hey, Jones, come up, you got an article, whatever, article 15, you're going to be working chow hall or whatever for two weeks. All right. So then I asked the guy, my friend, I said, hey, if they give you tax funded money, SNAP, welfare, shouldn't the government be able to drug test you at any time? No, I think that's unfair. That's too much privacy. You're taking people's money. What are you talking? So I actually love this policy.

• 18:11Speaker 03

  Yeah. And mind you, just so people understand, because again, getting in the way of Americans when they're already used to something, each soda can of Coca-Cola is 39 grams of sugar, which is almost 10 teaspoons. And they did that number on purpose. They would have gone the four.

• 18:24Speaker 02

  And sodium, by the way.

• 18:25Speaker 03

  And sodium. And if you think about, guys, SNAP food stamps in the United States, just SNAP, Tommy, and I'm not talking about all the other programs, is $100 billion. And every time, and you nailed, bro, you're getting in the way of all these big companies, bro.

• 18:38Speaker 04

  Soda wants a piece of that.

• 18:39Speaker 03

  Oh, 100%. And that's why RFK, bro, RFK.

• 18:42Speaker 02

  And Snickers.

• 18:43Speaker 03

  And I told him, I know we're going to get into another story later on with Shapiro, RFK to me is the MVP, just silent, bro, switched sides, went from the Democrats to Republicans, and he's just been low key helping Americans that are too crazy to be like, no, leave us alone, we want our sugar. He's trying to, like, what was it? The food, food dies in additives, the chronic disease, the real food reform, all the vaccine stuff. This guy is just kicking butt quietly, quietly, just all these home runs, and nobody's really paying attention to what he's doing.

• 19:09Speaker 02

  If you want to talk about actually making an impact, it's not sexy, but diabetes, insulin resistance, that's the real killer of Americans. It's not terrorism, it's not your food dies. It's, it's, to borrow somebody who said, that's like rearranging the furniture on the deck of the Titanic. The, the, the real threat is insulin resistance. People eat way too much sugar. And oh, by the way, when I say people, let's actually say what it is. It's kids. Kids get hooked on soda. So if you want to give your kid three, four, or five Cokes a day, and give them metabolic disease, which is happening and has been happening for the past, what, 30 years?

• 19:46Speaker 00

  By the way, check this out. So it's July of 2019. I'm at Breakers, hosting a meeting. We're watching some documentary together. And Ian, my CFO, I ask him, he's a runner, he runs 450 miles a time, at 46 years old.

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  At 46?

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  He's running a 450 mile?

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  Ian was a frickin' stud.

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  But Ian was a stud. Like, this guy was a CFO of Andy Beal. The guy's a legit stud. I hope he sees this. We love you, and you're phenomenal, Benedict. And. You know, he says, I said, so, uh, what's your diet? He says, I don't drink soda. I haven't had it for seven years. I said, you're stopping. I said, nothing? He says, nothing. While he's doing that, my assistant brings me two Coke zeros. Cause that's what I would drink. I would drink three Coke zeros a day. I said, you know what? I'm gonna try to see if I can go seven days without Coke zero. The last time I had soda was July of 2019 till today. The last time. Simplest thing to cut. It's not something complicated. The simplest thing to cut. And you all of a sudden see three inches gone here. Two inches gone here with a simple thing like that. I actually love this program. Adam, uh, do you have any final thoughts on this?

• 20:47Speaker 05

  I like the Florida story. Did we get into that?

• 20:49Speaker 00

  You want me to get into that? Let me read the Florida story.

• 20:51Speaker 05

  That's my favorite part of this whole story.

• 20:52Speaker 00

  Well, let's go to the Florida story. So now this snap thing, which to us folks, as a taxpayer, you ought to be protective of where your money goes to. We're paying taxes for the services we should see. Watch this one. The great state of Florida becomes the first state to block welfare cash to be used for what? Tattoos, vape and porn.

• 21:15Speaker 05

  It's incredible.

• 21:16Speaker 00

  Wait, what?

• 21:17Speaker 05

  It's outrageous.

• 21:18Speaker 00

  People currently use welfare cash for porn.

• 21:22Speaker 05

  I had no idea.

• 21:23Speaker 00

  Dude, I had no idea. When I saw this story, I'm like.

• 21:25Speaker 05

  Tattoos?

• 21:27Speaker 00

  Tattoos. This has to be a fake story. So Florida is the, by the way, this is Fox News reading this article. Florida becomes the first state to impose sweeping limits on welfare cash, blocking EBT cash assistance from buying tattoos, theme park tickets, video games, vaping products, pornography, and even psychic and fortune telling services. The Trump administration is urging other states to follow HHS. Deemed Florida's TANF plan complete Thursday. Praising common sense restriction, taxpayer funded assistance should help families, put food on the table, keep the lights on, purchase clothing, provide their children and overcome barriers on the path towards independence, says DeSantis. ACF Assistant Secretary Alex J. Adams. Stress benefits are not cut. No one loses any of their benefits.

• 22:10Speaker 00

  If an individual or a family is going to come to the government to cover their basic needs, it is the government's expectation that they can be used for those basic needs. The average household gets roughly 250 a month. Florida's Healthy Snap Initiative already barred soda, energy drinks and candy from food benefits in April. Adam, thoughts?

• 22:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, like the soda is just a, a, a small part of, hey, stop using this money on things that aren't basics. So to me, soda is like under these other things. Tattoos, vapes, porn. I mean, you could be buying drugs on this type of stuff. To me, it's ridiculous. But here's my biggest takeaway. The government assistance is not like your daddy's allowance. It's not like here's money, do whatever you want. There's restrictions with this. Like, I don't know if you've, any of you guys have ever been on welfare or SNAP? But my first job out of college, I was laid off after my first year. They gave me unemployment and they gave me food stamps, SNAP. I was like, oh damn, I got free food. And what happens is they give you six months. And here's what happens. Three months in, you're, you're chilling.

• 23:12Speaker 05

  You're chill, and I'm getting free food. I don't have to work. You're 22 years old, doesn't matter. After six months, you have to like renew. You start to kind of come dependent on it.

• 23:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:21Speaker 05

  And that's ultimately what this comes down to because I don't want to basically admonish people that are using SNAP that actually need it. And what I realized was this, there's three camps. There's the people that just genuinely can't function in society and actually need basic help. That's the whole premise of our social safety net. That's fine. I get those people. The second people are the, are the people that can, but they need help. That was like me at the time. Look, I can work, but I got laid off and I need some time. Cool, you get six months, boom. Here's the challenge, I think what we're talking about these other things. It's the people that can't that won't. They want to work, they want to game the system, they want to get free stuff. And they're basically saying, hey, why are you telling me what to do with the money you gave me?

• 24:05Speaker 05

  So to me, it comes down to this final thing. Um, do you want the freedom? Or do you want the restrictions that come with government assistance? To me, anyone that just relies on government assistance, it's a doomsday scenario for you in the end.

• 24:17Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, what, what this does is, Brian, I'll come to, what this does is 42 million people are getting SNAP.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  Wow, 42 million.

• 24:24Speaker 00

  A hundred and seven billion that we spend just for SNAP, 42 million. That's a lot of people. By the way, the people that are getting 42 million, most of them are adults. Like, it's not like it.

• 24:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 24:35Speaker 00

  42 million are getting SNAP. And the, cause remember when the conversation came on who was getting SNAP? What ethnicity, which immigrants? And you saw the Somalians, you saw all that stuff. And they're like, well, we got to cut SNAP. And then there were so many videos going viral saying, you better not cut SNAP. It's going to hurt so many kids. And then Republicans are like, okay, this is a very sensitive topic.

• 24:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, of course.

• 24:54Speaker 00

  For us to go directly and say, we're cutting in half to 21 million. Rather, they went this route. And so this is, this is one step. Then the next step, then the next step. By the way, before I come to you, we did the poll. How many sodas do you drink per month? What percentage you think said zero?

• 25:10Speaker 06

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• 26:06Speaker 08

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• 26:15Speaker 09

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• 26:22Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 26:22Speaker 00

  Our audience.

• 26:23Speaker 05

  1%.

• 26:24Speaker 02

  Oh, our audience?

• 26:25Speaker 00

  Our audience.

• 26:26Speaker 05

  3%.

• 26:26Speaker 02

  Your, your, your audience is, your audience is, is business owners. We've never done it. I'd say, I'd say your audience, maybe 25.

• 26:34Speaker 00

  You're close. 39% said zero.

• 26:36Speaker 05

  Zero in a month?

• 26:37Speaker 00

  I am so.

• 26:38Speaker 02

  These are motivated people.

• 26:39Speaker 00

  Dude, I am so impressed by our audience. You're my hero.

• 26:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:43Speaker 00

  Freaking awesome. Good for you.

• 26:44Speaker 05

  I gotta push back.

• 26:45Speaker 00

  Hey, give yourself a pat here. Watch this, one to five a month is 32%.

• 26:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:51Speaker 00

  Five to 10 a month is 9%. 10 plus a month, 20%. One out of five listeners drink more than 10 sodas a month.

• 26:59Speaker 05

  That's insane.

• 27:00Speaker 00

  Brian, thoughts?

• 27:00Speaker 02

  Well, look, anytime you have something like this, where the government says you, you're not allowed to do this. This is a good law. It, it was the same, I don't know if you remember this, but this, it was the same debate when, when smoking and seat belts came along. When, when seat belts were mandatory, there was a huge uproar about how the government, how dare the government make me wear my seat belt? I'm allowed to die if I want to and stuff like that. Cigarettes were the same thing. It was a very contentious idea, which is that you're not allowed to smoke pretty much anywhere. And secondhand smoke causes all kinds of problems. And oh, by the way, we have to take care of you as you die, just like when you have diabetes, now you have lung cancer. Those laws looking back on the fact that nobody smokes anymore. Nobody smokes anymore.

• 27:39Speaker 05

  Well, they're all vaping.

• 27:40Speaker 02

  What do you mean? They're all vaping, but, but it's very true.

• 27:42Speaker 05

  Move the ball.

• 27:43Speaker 03

  It's very true. Cigarette smoker, it's like, dude, what do you?

• 27:45Speaker 02

  But vaping doesn't have that secondhand thing that we were dealing with. And seat belts are another thing. So sometimes there are some good restrictions, and this is a great example.

• 27:54Speaker 03

  But, but what bothers me is we have 13.6 billion dollars a year goes to illegals that are on welfare. And this, and I'm tired of this country constantly about our affordability, we're in debt. We waste so many, dude, billions and billions on people that don't belong here. And we try to say, guys, please get out and don't come here. We're, we're the a-holes.

• 28:16Speaker 02

  You know what my first thought was when you just said 13 billion? You know what, how sick this is? I went like this, I went, that's a pittance. Our debt is 40 trillion.

• 28:25Speaker 03

  See what I'm saying?

• 28:26Speaker 02

  40 trillion, a trillion seconds, everybody, is 32,000 years. We have 40 of those in debt.

• 28:33Speaker 03

  In debt.

• 28:33Speaker 02

  So when you talk about 13 billion, that's adorable.

• 28:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, is that, is it?

• 28:37Speaker 02

  A 40 trillion, it's, it's a thousand, a trillion is a thousand billion.

• 28:41Speaker 03

  But, but ready for this or mine? Of, of all the years, of all the years of that 13 billion, 13 billion, 20 billion, 100 billion, that money is.

• 28:49Speaker 02

  Of course, of course.

• 28:50Speaker 03

  I mean, we're going down in the hole, but I mean, where, you have to start somewhere.

• 28:53Speaker 00

  This is the one we were talking about earlier.

• 28:54Speaker 02

  Yes, and there's something on here.

• 28:57Speaker 00

  We were talking about earlier. I'm gonna read it, Tom, I'm gonna come to you. Food stamps by ethnicity.

• 29:01Speaker 02

  Oh, here we go.

• 29:02Speaker 00

  Watch this, percentage of US households receiving food, Afghan, 45.6%. This is from the personal finance wizard. Somalis, 42.4, Iraqi, Dominican, Caribbean, uh, US native. Then you got Puerto Rican, Cuban, black, Arab, Cambodian, Haitian, Pacific, and then you got the rest of them. Tom, you were gonna say something on this.

• 29:20Speaker 05

  I was gonna say, look at the Somali one, number two.

• 29:22Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 29:23Speaker 05

  We found out in Minnesota, Doge found it, and Minnesota covered it up. There were people in Minnesota that were, that were able-bodied working people that had multiple EBT cards coming to them under the SNAP program. Multiple people that were working. So there was fraud in terms of access, getting a card, and you didn't even deserve a card. And now we had all this bad food being purchased. This freaking program was broken. On one side, you got lobbyists from big food, making sure that certain foods could be bought with it. And now the states are pushing back. You know why the states are pushing back? Cause of Medicaid. Medicaid is where the sick people that are on welfare have to get their healthcare. So the state looks at it and says, why am I giving them sugary drinks? And then on my Medicaid budget, now I gotta give them insulin. I'm not doing that.

• 30:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:07Speaker 05

  So that's right. And then on the other side of it, Pat, was the fraud of getting access to the program. It was broken. There, there is no auditing on who got access. And it was a revolving door with the lobbyists. This is an example of your tax dollar at work. This is why we've got 30.

• 30:23Speaker 03

  40.

• 30:24Speaker 05

  40 of those trillion dollar, 32,000 year things to make up for.

• 30:28Speaker 02

  It's incredible. Look, we want to focus on the top of the list of basically who's abusing the system, what states are basically just giving away money, but I want to give a shout out to the people at the bottom of the list. Shout out to the Indians here who aren't accepting anything. They're taking less than the whites. Sorry about that. And the Italians. So I mean, we want to admonish people who are doing the bad thing, but let's give some respect.

• 30:49Speaker 00

  I kind of know where you're going. No, no, guys, let me tell you what he's trying to do. And he does this every time. You know what he really wanted to say? Go to the bottom of the list. He wanted to say, look at the Israelis.

• 30:58Speaker 02

  Are they there?

• 30:59Speaker 03

  Where are they?

• 30:59Speaker 00

  Right there on the bottom. You know you wanted to go there.

• 31:02Speaker 02

  No, I didn't even see them there.

• 31:03Speaker 00

  Indians, 4.4, then Italians, then whites, then Chinese, Filipino, Nigerians, and Israelis.

• 31:08Speaker 02

  Israelis, get your stuff together, buddy. The Filipinos are beating you, the Chinese are beating you.

• 31:12Speaker 05

  They took the matzah balls off the program. That's why they don't use it.

• 31:15Speaker 02

  Exactly, of course.

• 31:17Speaker 00

  Let me get to the next.

• 31:18Speaker 02

  They got us again, guys. It always comes back to the Jews. An invisible circle of Jews holding strings. Every conspiracy.

• 31:23Speaker 00

  I thought that's where he was going.

• 31:24Speaker 02

  I'm trying to give Indians a shout out.

• 31:26Speaker 00

  Listen, every day we have to get a commercial about Israel from this guy, every day, but.

• 31:31Speaker 02

  We can get a commercial about Somalia.

• 31:33Speaker 00

  Hang on, AIPAC wire incoming. Let me get to the next story. Let me get to the next story. So this story, which is, it's getting heavier. Like, you know, yesterday, the whole Iran sanctions that it's announced. This is so technical, but this is, like, if you want to find out how bad, have you, has anybody ever suffocated? Like, imagine, let's just say, you were once married, and you have a house, and this house later on sells for, like, I don't know, 5 million bucks or something, like, $6 million, and that money was yours. You worked your ass off for this, right? And then you, you have somebody like an ex, or a father, or a, you know, wife, or somebody that's just suffocating all your finances, that you can't do anything. Everything, like,

• 32:16Speaker 00

  when we ran the insurance company, every month, we would have some people that would get wages garnished. Why? You didn't pay child support. We would learn, everybody who's back on child support payment, that was one of our jobs, that we would get, hey, that man's making all this money, he owns me child support back in this distance. And then we would work with these husbands, and most of the time it was husbands. What US just did to Iran, they are suffocating a country in ways it's never been suffocated before. And that operation they're calling is Operation Economic Outcast, nothing to do with the rappers in a bass, pass with a C, not a K, this is with a C. It's very important for you to know this. So Rubio said,

• 32:57Speaker 00

  we are moving away from strikes to sanctions. So what does this mean? Let me get to the story. Do we know what page this story's on? There's like a bunch of them on this. So I'll go one by one by one on these stories. So Rubio tells allies, US shifted away from strikes to sanctions on Iran, okay? And how bad is this thing going to be when Besen broke it down? Tom, do you want to kind of go through this? Because there's a, this thing gets very, very deep, you know, on what direction they're going with this. Tom, I'll come to you first.

• 33:24Speaker 02

  First of all, they're now just like, you start with sanctions on oil. You can't sell oil, and we're going to blockade you, so you can't send your ships to China with the oil. So we start there. Then we said, and we're also gonna, the other oil products, so that you can't send fertilizer to China, because, you know, fertilizer is a compound that also comes out of oil products. You can't do that. And now they're basically saying, you know, we're gonna go off everything. We're gonna go cost of living. We're gonna go after all of the things that are on there that the people need. Well, my question is, they may be suffocating a country, but do these particular leaders care if the people suffer, and is that gonna get them to move?

• 34:07Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, the part that, to me, that is very interesting is, I think, Tom, what they're concerned, right, yesterday I had Ted Cruz here, we did a three hour podcast together. He came down and, we're talking about some of these trades, tariffs, how it works, does it work, does it not work? If you're doing this, and I believe Pakistan and Turkey just signed a trade deal with Iran, and you keep hearing Erdogan, Erdogan, Erdogan, and there's possibility that Israel may do something with Turkey, there's a conflict there that's brewing that people are watching very closely. And then you're going to China and saying, hey, if you choose to do business with Iran, you're not doing any business with us. You don't have to do it. It is not a must, but they're almost using Pakistan. And remember

• 34:52Speaker 00

  where the negotiation was for the memorandum of?

• 34:54Speaker 02

  Pakistan.

• 34:54Speaker 00

  It was Pakistan. They were leading it. So this is a very weird direction they're going. They're not just suffocating, they're telling everybody, I swear to God, if you're an ally with Iran, and you help them in any way, I'm not your customer. I'm not your customer. And even deeper levels to possibly not even doing business with the US dollar, which is kind of a little bit of a risk Besen's taking. Look, there's nobody that knows this business better than Besen. People forget who Besen used to work for. He worked for Soros. Guess what's, he worked for Soros, you know for 15 years.

• 35:25Speaker 02

  He worked for the devil. I didn't know that.

• 35:27Speaker 00

  Oh, he worked for Soros, one time, nine years. You didn't know this?

• 35:30Speaker 02

  I did not know that.

• 35:31Speaker 00

  Besen worked for Soros, first time for nine years, second time for five or six years. Who knows more about currency manipulation than Soros?

• 35:38Speaker 02

  Oh, man.

• 35:38Speaker 00

  Nobody. That's how.

• 35:40Speaker 02

  Well, I have a question.

• 35:41Speaker 00

  But let me wrap this up, and I'll just come to you. So to me, the fact that this guy was the chief investment officer for Soros for five years, and prior to that, he was with them for nine years from 91 to 2000. So if they're doing this, and Besen's leading it, guess what we know? The guy's got a lot of experience in doing this. So he's gonna know how to suffocate Iran. Now, whether it'll work or not, we'll see.

• 36:04Speaker 02

  It's gonna be tough. Look, China, Iran, 90% of Iran's crude goes to China. China's not, not independent. Now, here's the interesting, there's not a shot, if we're gonna actually do this to China and starve China of energy, it ain't happening. There's, there's gonna be, they're, they're gonna figure a way around that. They need that fertilizer, because they can't grow their own food. They are dependent on energy. They're gonna get it somewhere. Now, it's interesting to me that the head of the CIA is, has gone to Russia. What's he doing there?

• 36:38Speaker 00

  Quietly.

• 36:38Speaker 02

  What's he doing there, talking to Putin? Is this something where they're going, can you give, is this a way of saying, you want to sell your oil, Russia? You can sell it to China, because we gotta do this thing in the Strait of Hormuz. We gotta block things, we gotta make it very uncomfortable for Iran. I don't know, maybe, I'm not, I'm not a foreign policy guy, but it's very interesting. The timing is very interesting to me. These things are thought about if you're, if you're smart about it.

• 37:04Speaker 00

  Don't you think they've thought about it? Like, watch the sequencing. Watch the sequencing. First, you get Venezuela, then you go after Iran. If you go after Iran, you know how much they're relying on oil. You then say, hey, Venezuela's gonna broker a deal with you at a discount, we'll send it to you, China's still gonna get their oil. They've thought about this stuff. Let me, let me kind of share with you what the plan looks like. So US has mapped Iran's network. Besen says Treasury has mapped nodes, facilitators, and networks Iran uses to sell oil and evade sanctions. So you know what that means? This is kind of like, you know, one of the things Anna Paulina Luna's trying to work on right now, which she's doing a very good job, is she's trying to find out which influencers in America are getting paid by foreign entities and foreign countries.

• 37:48Speaker 02

  Good.

• 37:49Speaker 00

  So a lot of times, people can create a shell to get the money to get paid to a shell, and then somehow, some way, money comes to you, and nobody finds out that it came from Qatar or China or whoever. The government's finding out ways to identify and say, these influencers are getting paid, just tell the world Russia's paying you, just tell the world Qatar's paying you, which, the same way Snap is being held accountable for not getting tattoos, guess what? We want that, right? This is very important. Let me read this to you one more time. Besen says Treasury has mapped the nodes, facilitators, and networks Iran uses to sell oil to what? To evade sanctions. So they're telling you, we know what you're doing to get some of the billionaires in your country that are doing it, so it doesn't

• 38:31Speaker 00

  look like it's you. Kind of like what happened with Huawei many years ago, when Huawei's daughter was the CFO, who was in Canada doing a deal with Iran, and all of a sudden Trump said on his first term, guess what Huawei? You can never do business with America, and Huawei left. And this was a 100 billionaire company. I don't know if you remember this or not. This was a massive story eight years ago, nine years, Tom, do you remember this story?

• 38:50Speaker 02

  Totally remember.

• 38:51Speaker 00

  With the CFO that was the daughter of Huawei came in.

• 38:53Speaker 02

  And she was in Canada.

• 38:54Speaker 00

  She was in Canada when this happened.

• 38:56Speaker 02

  And they went to Canada, and they pinched her and stuck her. You're not gonna be able, the United States is not gonna be able to tell Turkey, China, you're not gonna be able to tell these people what to do. They might say, okay, yeah, yeah, we got you. They need their oil, and the oil's flowing.

• 39:09Speaker 00

  What if you have a different supply that comes to them from a different place? What if you provide them a different place?

• 39:13Speaker 02

  Well, you've got to figure out a way to build a pipeline in a hurry, but the Strait of Hormuz is still a crucial waterway. And Iran, the, the thing that they can do with a tiny drone, is all they have to do is hit one ship. And now, here's the problem.

• 39:27Speaker 00

  And it happened yesterday, by the way.

• 39:29Speaker 02

  Ship can't get, the ship can't get insurance. They'd no company shipping companies gonna go, I'm not putting my ship.

• 39:35Speaker 00

  This is where US government said, we'll come and do the insurance. Forget about loads of London.

• 39:39Speaker 02

  Try that. That's fine. But so now we gotta escort every ship. And it's, you can still cause a problem with one tiny drone. And the problem is those, those companies then say, okay, I have to rely on the US military for insurance? I don't.

• 39:56Speaker 00

  Let me, let me just read the sequence and I'm gonna come to you guys. So watch this. Trump called each of the country's leader independently. So he called him and says, guys, this is what we're doing. I need you to back me up. Number three. Treasury state US military teams then met with their counterparts. This isn't simply OFAC publishing sanctions. Interagency teams are approaching foreign governments and telling them specifically what Washington expected closed. Each country gets its own deadline. Each of them to have their own set of deadlines of what they need to do. Iranian bank branches get closed. Besen gave one example specifically, every bank Meli branch must be shuttered. That's a pretty heavy statement. This guy's not playing around. Foreign banks can lose access to dollars.

• 40:36Speaker 00

  So Besen explicitly threatened entities facilitating Iran money would remove it from US dollar system. This is, this is not something that we say commonly. Secondary sanctions now cover the five additional Iranian sectors, digital asset, technology, gold, aviation and shipping. And then they're targeting the entire oil chain, not merely the buyers. So the producer, the tanker, the ship owner, the ship manager, all of them. So Treasury immediately hit roughly 60 different targets, assets frozen, and the 50% rule kicks in. So this is not like they're doing, Tom, do you think this is gonna work? Your, your percentage is what? 10% chance?

• 41:12Speaker 02

  I don't think it's, I just think it's too much.

• 41:14Speaker 00

  What do you give it? What percentage do you think this works?

• 41:16Speaker 02

  I think it's lip service and I think the, I don't know that the sanctions that were in place for as long as they had been before that weren't really restrictive as well. The problem is enforcing this stuff. Really hard to enforce.

• 41:28Speaker 00

  What do you think is the likelihood this actually works and causes pain?

• 41:30Speaker 02

  Uh, 5%.

• 41:31Speaker 00

  Okay, fair. But Tom, where are you at with this?

• 41:34Speaker 04

  I'm higher than that. I'll tell you why. You have to go back and take a look at how these things work. What they're talking about, they're talking about intermediaries. That's people that, that can facilitate wires. They're talking about the clearinghouses for the banks. They're also talking about the aviation and shipping companies that are actually shells. And they're talking about the free trade zones, because there's free trade zones everywhere. There's one in Montreal. There's free trade zones around the world where it's easy to get in and out because you don't have certain restrictions. Because, you know, as long as you're not selling this, this or this, you know, goods, services, laws are on the list can go through. Pat, you know, do you remember who was the Mexican drug bank? Who was the drug bank for Mexico? It goes back to like 2015, 2012. It was HSBC.

• 42:20Speaker 04

  HSBC was known as the drug bank. Cianola cartel was moving a billion dollars through them. It was ridiculous. And they, they got sanctioned heavily when the US found it. Well, guess what? As fast as they were moving on HSBC, regional banks and everything picked up the slack. So if they get in here and they can step on the air hose, and the reason they want to close that bank is they want to close the wire and the transfer capability. That's what they're going after. If you can track all the wire and transfer and you can say, hey, Citibank, you just moved the billion. No, we didn't. Everyone has to be shut down because you're in there. So the question is, is it gonna happen?

• 42:59Speaker 04

  This was huge, what they did with HSBC. And I think what they're talking about, when I read this and I see clearinghouses, transfer facilitators, that's all of the free trade zones, that has to do with the money moving around. If he's able to step on that, Pat, I give a greater than 50% chance of succeeding.

• 43:17Speaker 00

  This working?

• 43:18Speaker 04

  Politically, I'm, I'm with Callan politically at 5% if you were just talking. But if they get in there and they step on the, the transports, then the money can't move.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  Well, we gotta finish this war with Canada first. Trump is so funny. Trump is like, I'm renaming that lake the Lake of America.

• 43:38Speaker 00

  And we're gonna go to that. But I, but I want to stay here because this to me, if, if this works. By the way, again, I want to reemphasize this. Besen's the right guy. Trump's the right guy because he's got the balls. And Rubio is the right guy because, you know, he, he knows how to maneuver and talk to everybody. So they got the right, you know, personalities going there. If they pull this off, because I'll read the story to you and Adam, I'm gonna come to you. This is from AP. Ready? This is from AP. Iran scrambles to sustain trade as US threatens sanctions on countries that refuse to break ties. AP, AP's a liberal leftist government. It's not like it's gonna be pro-Trump. Iran's economy, already battered by inflation sanctions and a war that slash oil revenue,

• 44:22Speaker 00

  faces more instability as Washington coerces countries into ending financial dealings with Tehran. The UAE's decision last week to suspend trade kickstarted the isolation push. Those who stand with the United States will reap the rewards of the partnerships, said Besen. Those who tether themselves to the Iranian regime should expect to share in the isolation. So again, they're pushing everybody out. Success hinges on China, the main buyer of Iranian oil, which you said earlier. I don't see China playing ball by any means. Said the Chatham House fellow David Lubin, Iran exchanged $125 billion in goods in 2024, but the UAE, China and Turkey supplied nearly three quarters of their imports.

• 45:04Speaker 00

  The UAE can be replaced, but the Iranians are openly saying it's not going to happen overnight. Adam.

• 45:11Speaker 06

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• 45:41Speaker 07

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• 46:06Speaker 08

  How many discounts does USAA Auto Insurance offer? Too many to say here. Multi-vehicle discount, safe driver discount, uh, new vehicle discount, storage discount, legacy.

• 46:15Speaker 09

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• 46:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, to me, it comes down to one question, like, how much do you care about your own citizens? Because what we can say about America and Trump, Trump cares about his citizens, but he's basically saying, listen, you might have to pay a little bit more at the pump. That's the worst situation. You're gonna go from comfortable to a little bit of discomfort. The Iranian regime, you think they care about their own citizens? You think they care that their citizens are struggling to eat? They'll kill 50,000 of them in a weekend if they're even talking back. So to me, this is why I'm kind of with Callan. I'm like, I don't see these guys conceding. Because these sanctions are supposed to breed concessions. All right, bro, we're gonna do this to you. And when we do this, we need you to do this.

• 47:06Speaker 04

  And, and here's the reason why. Unless it hits the people in power.

• 47:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:11Speaker 04

  It's not gonna create a change. Okay, so for instance, all right, in, in America, the gas prices are a little bit more. Unless it starts affecting the people in power, they're like, all right, so you used to pay 350, you're paying four bucks now, too bad. But in Iran, I mean, the anguish, the misery, the misery index that we talked about, the inflation, the unemployment.

• 47:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, but.

• 47:29Speaker 04

  They're just like, we don't care.

• 47:31Speaker 00

  So what's your point though?

• 47:32Speaker 04

  My point is, they don't care about their citizens.

• 47:35Speaker 00

  So you're.

• 47:35Speaker 04

  So we're asking them to make concessions on things they don't care about.

• 47:39Speaker 00

  Then you and Callan are on the same page. Are you less than 5% this works?

• 47:43Speaker 04

  Well, I think a little bit differently. I think after midterms, Trump's not gonna care that much about gas prices and he's gonna light them up. So they got about 60 to 90 days to get this thing done before Trump militarily goes back. That's my opinion.

• 47:57Speaker 02

  Nah, he's not gonna light them up. First of all, the.

• 47:59Speaker 04

  Why wouldn't he light them up?

• 48:00Speaker 02

  Because Iran, Iran knows a couple of things. One is that the Americans do not have an appetite to actually go into Iran. That'd be the dumbest thing in the world. Either does Trump. He's never, he's not gonna do that.

• 48:10Speaker 00

  No boots.

• 48:11Speaker 02

  They can shut the Strait of Hormuz down very easily with a little mischief for a couple of grand.

• 48:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, not as much now. They, I don't know if you saw the news, not to cut you off. They just removed all the mines in the Strait of Hormuz.

• 48:23Speaker 02

  That's fine, but now they have a bargaining chip. Now they can just cut. What I'm saying is that they've got a couple of cards. Yeah, they got a couple of cards. But at the end of the day, look, Iran has that oil. The world needs that oil. The world needs that sulfur.

• 48:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:35Speaker 02

  And as long as the world needs that, at least.

• 48:38Speaker 04

  There's alternative routes.

• 48:39Speaker 02

  Sure, I'll talk to you.

• 48:40Speaker 04

  And they're making alternative.

• 48:41Speaker 02

  In 10 years, in 10 years.

• 48:42Speaker 04

  I don't know if it's gonna take that long. I mean, we're seeing what's going with the Red Sea.

• 48:45Speaker 02

  Either way, either way, I'm telling you right now, if China needs that oil, they're gonna get that oil.

• 48:49Speaker 04

  Oh, I don't think China's gonna make those things. I think you're talking about sanctions.

• 48:53Speaker 00

  Let me play this clip of what Besen said threatening China and Iran. Go for it.

• 48:57Speaker 10

  institutions that facilitate transactions for Iran. Chinese banks have often been talked about being targeted, but we don't see any of those institutions targeted here. Is that something that is coming in this campaign? Or is the very delicate trade truce with China something that could prohibit you from, you know, going that far and taking that very big step?

• 49:26Speaker 11

  We want to make clear to here today that no one is above the reach of US sanctions. That if they facilitate transactions and are part of the ecosystem that turns Iranian oil into money, into repression, they will be targeted.

• 49:47Speaker 00

  Okay, so that's that part on what he's saying. He's making it very clear. I want you to watch the second one. Go forward.

• 49:54Speaker 11

  And let me be clear, any entity that facilitates money laundering on behalf of Iran will be removed from the US dollar system. The clock just started ticking.

• 50:07Speaker 00

  So you think this is a nothing burger?

• 50:10Speaker 02

  I think it's lip service.

• 50:11Speaker 00

  Really?

• 50:12Speaker 02

  You can't do that. Good luck. What, we're gonna get into a, are we gonna really, you think you can sanction China? That symbiotic relationship? Our symbiotic relationship with China? Oh, well, let's do that to the economy on top of all this other stuff. Enjoy that in the midterms, guys.

• 50:26Speaker 03

  It's not like China would release the virus.

• 50:29Speaker 00

  By the way, how much of the oil China gets, you think they get from Iran?

• 50:32Speaker 02

  I don't know the, I think, I looked it up. Was it 20, 30%? I know that Iran's 90% of their crude goes to China.

• 50:43Speaker 00

  You're right, for sure.

• 50:44Speaker 02

  But I don't know what the exact.

• 50:45Speaker 00

  So those are two different concerns, right?

• 50:46Speaker 02

  They are.

• 50:47Speaker 00

  So China only gets 8% of their oil from Iran.

• 50:50Speaker 02

  Right.

• 50:51Speaker 00

  So 8% is replaceable. If it was a bigger number, different story.

• 50:55Speaker 02

  How about the sulfur? How about fertilizer and stuff? Because they have to grow their own food.

• 51:00Speaker 04

  And then they're shipping the raw materials to create rocket fuel, you know, for those rockets back. Look, I really look back at the HSBC case. They were monitored for five years, Pat, five years. At the end of the five years, nobody was indicted because they said, too big to jail. Right? Too big to fail?

• 51:20Speaker 02

  Like we did there.

• 51:21Speaker 04

  No, no, no, that's what they said. They said, too big to jail, and they didn't want to destabilize the world banking system. They're stepping over this now because until Besen nails a large bank and takes them offline, the market, the stock markets are gonna price this as a tax, Pat. Do you understand? Because they're gonna say, oh, you're gonna, that bank will get fined, that bank will get fined, they'll get fined. So that, they see that as a tax or a cost in the system. But this is different language. And this is why I say it's 50% chance it's gonna work. This is much different language. No US representative, Secretary of State, Secretary of Commerce, Secretary of Treasury, President, Vice President, has ever gone to the microphone with this sort of specificity and said, I'm gonna take you off the dollar system, means I'm shutting down wires, I'm

• 52:06Speaker 04

  shutting down access. If they truly close and are aiming at the Iranian bank, Pat, if they truly take them offline, then there's something. But until then, it's gonna be treated as a tax by the financial markets. And you go back to HSBC, by the way, it was over 7 billion. By the way, HSBC was the number one mover of money in and out of Mexico, and they caught the cartels that the teller windows had these square openings where you could slide boxes through. And the Cianola cartel's boxes where they would pack their money were the exact dimensions of the teller windows at HSBC.

• 52:43Speaker 00

  The question is, has this tactic ever worked in the past before? That's the question. So let me read this to you. In 2012, US essentially told foreign banks and oil buyers substantially reduce Iranian oil purchases dealings with sanction Iranian banks or risk losing access to the US financial system. We've done this before. Treasury contacted more than 120 financial institutions and regulators across 60 countries. Treasury says the overwhelming majority changed their practices rather than risk US financial access. The results were dramatic. Iranian crude oil exports fell from 2.5 million barrels a day to 1.5 million barrels a day. That's a 40% decline.

• 53:23Speaker 00

  By 2014, it fell to 1.1 million barrels a day, 60%. Iran's oil revenue took a huge hit. Treasury later estimated that sanctions cost Iran more than $160 billion in oil revenue in 2012. And here's the part that's relevant to your question. You ready? China participated.

• 53:42Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 53:43Speaker 00

  That's the biggest factor. So, does that change your mind a little bit, that this has partly worked in the past before?

• 53:48Speaker 02

  My instinct always goes to when I hear Besen start talking about punitive measures. I go to gun control. I just go, man, every time you try to say, I'm gonna bring the hammer down, people find a way around these things. And when a country does that, when we start talking geopolitically, and we start rattling swords, I always, I'm cynical now because I go, how much is lip service? How much of this is political? How much of this is Trump? And the administration is desperate because what they realize is that they are in a war. We're stuck in Iran, and I don't, I wouldn't know how to get out of it. This is a problem.

• 54:24Speaker 00

  By the way, I don't think you're alone. I think millions of people think the way you do. So there is a community.

• 54:30Speaker 02

  I'm skeptical.

• 54:31Speaker 00

  That's very skeptical. Did you have anything?

• 54:33Speaker 04

  And at 50/50, my 50 is with you.

• 54:35Speaker 03

  Adam said it, and I think Tom mentioned too, this boots, the only way, Brian, and this is not what we want, the only way to win in Iran is literally boots on them and then blow them all up. There's no way. This was the biggest mistake. We are where we are. This isn't going anywhere. This is gonna affect the midterms, it's gonna affect the friggin presidency. When, where was the, remember it was gonna be two weeks and we were gonna be done? What happened? And look where we are.

• 54:59Speaker 02

  Because they were six days away from a nuclear weapon. We've been hearing that for 30 years.

• 55:05Speaker 04

  I hear you. I think there's two different lanes here. There's militarily, and then there's economically, and then the overarching is strategically.

• 55:13Speaker 03

  But like you said, if they don't care about the people, they'll starve, and they don't give a damn about the people.

• 55:17Speaker 04

  Oh, I agree.

• 55:18Speaker 03

  So the only way to do it is to kill everybody. That's the only way.

• 55:20Speaker 02

  Good luck.

• 55:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. I don't want it, but.

• 55:23Speaker 04

  What Pat just said was very important, and he just gave a case example of when it worked. So let me just frame this in 10 seconds. Pat wrote a book. It was called Choose Your Enemies Wisely. The opposite of that is what Iran is gonna be forced to do, and the people that are around Iran, it's gonna be, choose your allies wisely. America's basically saying, oh, you wanna be friends with Iran or us? There's no in-between. Now, whether that works.

• 55:51Speaker 02

  We've done that before, though.

• 55:52Speaker 04

  That's what they're saying.

• 55:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, we've been doing that for 40 years.

• 55:54Speaker 04

  But now they're gonna do it economically and strategically. So you can do financial sanctions.

• 55:58Speaker 02

  We did it then, too.

• 55:59Speaker 04

  You can do trade sanctions, and they're basically saying.

• 56:01Speaker 00

  It's the longest 10 seconds I've heard.

• 56:03Speaker 04

  Pick, well, Brian Callen interrupted me, so I get, it restarts every time he interrupts.

• 56:07Speaker 02

  Sorry, buddy, sorry.

• 56:08Speaker 04

  But we're gonna see what these countries choose as far as.

• 56:10Speaker 00

  Okay, we'll see what happens. Let's move on to the next story. Canada, Canadian tariffs. This war back and forth is not slowing down, and it's getting worse and worse. So tariff refunds contribute to record-setting corporate profit boosts. This is Canadian tariffs that they're talking about. Tom, can you go a little bit deeper on this retaliatory tariff that's going on with Canada and the US? I'll read one of the stories, and I'll turn it over to you. Bully feud erupts between Trump and Ontario Doug Ford over China's trade tariffs. Okay, I don't know if you guys got a clip on this or not. If you do, I'll read this, and then we'll possibly go to a clip in a time. I'm coming to you first. The war a war between US and Canada is heating up alongside the trade war, with Ontario Premier Doug Ford twice telling President Trump, kiss my ass.

• 56:54Speaker 00

  Trump pledged Monday to raise tariffs on Canadian cars, trucks, auto parts, and steel to 50% in January. After 50% tariffs on other goods, land it Saturday when trade talks collapse. Canada has been ripping off the United States for years, Trump posted, including, we do not yet need Canada, they need us. Prime Minister Mark Carney suspended negotiations Friday over last-minute changes he called unfair, uneconomic, vowing to retaliate dollar-for-dollar Ford, calling Trump a bully, said Canada must throw everything in the kitchen sink at him. I have a lot of real estate on my ass, and so he has a lot of room to kiss my ass. Ford, is this Ford talking? Play the clip. Play the clip of him.

• 57:32Speaker 02

  This guy looks like Brock Lesnar.

• 57:33Speaker 11

  I go back and forth with Trump, you know? I'm not gonna, I'm just not gonna take the bait. This guy's a loser. He's gonna be a loser, and simple as that. We're gonna fight with everything we have, and, you know something? I have more courage, more brains in my baby toe than he has in his whole body. So, there you go. And I have a lot of real estate on my ass, so he has a lot of room to kiss my ass.

• 57:57Speaker 02

  If you're getting Canadians to talk this way. If you're getting Canadians to start talking about this way, Canadians are the most polite people on the planet, and they got Brock Lesnar's twin out there, you got a problem.

• 58:10Speaker 00

  You better back it up when you're talking like this. You better back it up.

• 58:14Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 58:14Speaker 00

  Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 58:15Speaker 04

  Okay, so when Trump says, "Canada's been ripping us off for years," what he's talking about is two key disputes that go back literally 20 years. Canada has been throwing disadvantages at American farmers and American lumber industry for years. Canada's got a lot of cows in Alberta, they got a lot of grassland up there, and they have a lot of lumber. And what they've done is they've done a thing called stumpage fees. Stumpage fees basically creates an advantage and a subsidy to their own lumber people who then ship plywood and building products to the United States and disadvantage the US suppliers. So this has been going, makes that sense, Pat? So that's been going on for a long time. Also, dairy has been

• 58:59Speaker 04

  going on. Guess what? There's the cows. That's been going on for a long time. So Trump got into this on the good side, that, hey, man, there's been a couple of areas where you guys have really kind of been messing with us, and we really want to straighten these out. And Canada's like, no, no, no, we don't want to touch those. And he said, no, you've been ripping us off for a lot of time. That's what Trump is talking about. I don't know if ripoff is the word, but those have been things that have been unresolved, so that's what Trump was pissed off about. Now, who's Doug Ford? Doug Ford is the governor of Ontario. Governor of Ontario. So he's basically the Gavin Newsom of Canada. He goes to the microphone, he's unafraid to say stuff like this. This is what it's all about. Meanwhile, Mark Carney

• 59:42Speaker 04

  is playing because the EU has told Mark Carney that they're giving him green light to go up against Trump. We're going to help you out, we're going to do this, we'll trade with you, there's things we'll do. So, Canada, with a GDP 1/10 of the US, 31 versus 1.3 trillion dollars, they are sitting there, you know, 3.1, 31 versus 3.1, pushing it. So that's what's going on. Now, all of a sudden, you've got Trump elevating it, saying Trump things, you know, you guys are idiots, you're the worst it's ever, where Trump-

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  Renaming a lake?

• 1:00:18Speaker 04

  Where Trump started in a good point, that we needed to level the playing field for the lumber industries, dairy, and others, digital services too, and now it escalated into this where they're screaming at each other, and we're renaming a lake. Does that kind of frame it?

• 1:00:34Speaker 00

  I want to play this clip for you. So this is President Trump on Glenn Beck, talking about what it's like to do business with Canada. Go for it.

• 1:00:39Speaker 12

  They are one of the worst countries in the world to deal with. They're, and this has gone on for many years-

• 1:00:45Speaker 13

  Wait, wait, wait, can we say this? I love Canadians and Canada. I do not like their administration.

• 1:00:52Speaker 12

  Okay, well, the administration, and the previous administration too, was terrible.

• 1:00:56Speaker 13

  Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

• 1:00:57Speaker 12

  But they have taken advantage of the United States for many decades, actually. They charge tariffs that are unbelievable, like on milk, 400% and on like, and I just said, we're taking them on. And I took them on at the beginning, but we had so many other things to do, because the country was a mess. But I said, we're going to take them on, we're going to stop it. And you saw the Lake Ontario, you know, people thought I was kidding, maybe I wasn't, because the last one you saw was the Gulf of Mexico, Gulf of America.

• 1:01:32Speaker 13

  I know, I know.

• 1:01:33Speaker 12

  Now we have a gulf and we have a lake, okay? You know, it's very simple. But, but look, I don't want to go into great detail, because it's maybe boring to people, but to me, it's not boring. They charge tariffs, they take advantage of us as though they were a state, and they're not a state. And they've taken our car industry, and they've taken our agriculture industry.

• 1:01:54Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:01:55Speaker 12

  You know, the farmers can't sell anything in there because the tariffs are so enormous. And yet, they want to sell in us without any tax. So I had a deal-

• 1:02:03Speaker 00

  Tom, what do you think about what he said? You can pause it right there. What do you think about what he said?

• 1:02:06Speaker 04

  He's right. This is what I was talking about. He didn't mention lumber, but lumber and dairy, you know, and he's talking about milk, those have been two areas that have been going on for a long time, have been unresolved, and they've been giving benefit to Canada. Here's where you have to be careful with the auto industry. The US sends aluminum to Canada, Canada makes parts out of it, and then they sell the parts back to Ford. We, we use materials, turn it into parts, and send it to them. So when a car is built in America, there's what's called the circle. So labor may live in Canada because the workers are putting it together, Canada may have made the parts, we designed the car, and we made all of these parts. So Ford, long ago, had what's called the 351 Windsor. It was

• 1:02:50Speaker 04

  a classic engine, phenomenal engine, you know, you take one of those, you put the aluminum heads on it, little bit of aftermarket-

• 1:02:56Speaker 02

  I had one, I had a Ford Bronco with one.

• 1:02:57Speaker 04

  And they're bulletproof.

• 1:02:58Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:02:59Speaker 04

  The engine will last longer than the car.

• 1:03:01Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:03:02Speaker 04

  And it's tremendous. Well, you know where Windsor is? Windsor Locks is directly, it is, there's a trivia.

• 1:03:07Speaker 02

  It's above Detroit, right?

• 1:03:08Speaker 04

  South of Detroit.

• 1:03:09Speaker 02

  South of Detroit.

• 1:03:10Speaker 04

  Windsor, Canada, is the only place that you can go south from the United States and get into Canada.

• 1:03:16Speaker 02

  Really? Wow.

• 1:03:17Speaker 04

  Every other place, you have to go north, you can go south, because it goes this way.

• 1:03:19Speaker 02

  South Windsor, yeah.

• 1:03:20Speaker 04

  And so the Windsor factory was named there. So the auto industry, Pat, we've had good symbiotic relationships that help people, working moms and dads that were working in the auto industry-

• 1:03:29Speaker 00

  Who has leverage here, Tom? Who has leverage here?

• 1:03:30Speaker 04

  We have the leverage.

• 1:03:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, so go, light them up. Go light them up.

• 1:03:34Speaker 02

  Do we have the leverage?

• 1:03:35Speaker 00

  Why do we not have the leverage?

• 1:03:36Speaker 02

  I just worry that, you know, first of all, talk about the funniest president of all time. I'm sorry, if you hate him, but to name, rename the lake, just to spite, it's like, you want to divorce me? I'm going to pee in every corner of the house. See ya. To me, he makes me laugh so hard, that's just so silly. But I just wonder if 50% tariffs, which obviously he probably won't stand with, he just usually goes crazy, and then there's, we scale back from there. But is this good right now for the economy? Is this, is this timing beneficial?

• 1:04:07Speaker 04

  Well, he took it off-

• 1:04:08Speaker 02

  Do we have the leverage?

• 1:04:09Speaker 04

  He took the tariff off of beef itself, not dairy, but beef, so that we can get cows and beef from Alberta.

• 1:04:17Speaker 02

  So he took that off, so we can get-

• 1:04:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, that, if you go look at that-

• 1:04:20Speaker 02

  So the price of meat, don't mess with my steak.

• 1:04:22Speaker 04

  Well, he's trying to help the American barbecue, because right now, ground beef is six bucks.

• 1:04:27Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:04:28Speaker 04

  And, and, and seven years ago, it was three bucks.

• 1:04:30Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:04:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, by the way, when you're talking about this, and I'll come to you, you're worried about this, like, Lake America, whatever you're changing? Let me tell you what's an insult. You know what's coming up in a couple of weeks? The 25-year anniversary of 9/11. Okay? So then imagine, this is a country that wants to be partners with America, and two weeks before the 25-year anniversary of 9/11, CBC, which is the PBS of Canada, sends an email to tell their journalists not to call 9/11 terrorist attack in internal guidance. They know they're doing this two weeks before 9/11. Can you go back to the email, so we can read the email, what it looks like?

• 1:05:15Speaker 02

  That's so outrageous to me.

• 1:05:16Speaker 00

  That is so outrageous. Look at this here. "Do not refer to the September 11 attacks as terrorist attacks. The hijackings led to passenger jet crashes in DC, Pennsylvania, and Manhattan. The World Trade Center was destroyed. September 11 Digital Archive is an excellent resource for details about the attacks. It was created by several US universities, historical societies, and foundations. If you have any specific questions about the 9/11 anniversary coverage you are working on, please reach out to your editorial leader or JSP office. Thanks and take care."

• 1:05:49Speaker 02

  Scumbags, scumbags.

• 1:05:51Speaker 00

  So, so, so you're worried about me changing the names to a damn lake, and you want to go out there on the worst event that's happened in America the last 25 years? That the 25-year anniversary is coming up? You have the audacity to say this is not a terrorist attack?

• 1:06:05Speaker 02

  What was it then?

• 1:06:06Speaker 00

  No problem, no problem. Does this sound like, by the way, this is the part that you have to realize. This is not the CNN of Canada. This is not the ABC of Canada. This is not a blogger. This is not the Breitbart, or Daily Wire, or Midas Touch. This is the government-funded CBC News sending an email to their people saying 9/11 wasn't a terrorist attack.

• 1:06:31Speaker 02

  That's incredible.

• 1:06:32Speaker 00

  Does that sound like a partner to you?

• 1:06:33Speaker 02

  Incredible.

• 1:06:34Speaker 00

  Does that sound like a partner to you, or is that an insult, a spit in your face? I'm so glad he's pushing back. I really am so glad he's pushing back. And unless somebody from the government comes up and says, "That email is not how we feel about it," if Carney and other leaders start spewing that same rhetoric, saying, "Yeah, you know what, 9/11 wasn't a terrorist attack, we're not dealing with a partner here. We're just not."

• 1:06:54Speaker 02

  It's almost so crazy, I want to, I want to think I'm being had. Like, it feels like an April Fool's joke.

• 1:07:00Speaker 00

  And it's not. It's legit.

• 1:07:02Speaker 02

  I want to see what Carney says in response to this. I got to see what they say, because they, Canada's got to make a statement.

• 1:07:08Speaker 04

  Well, I'll tell you what Carney said about this. They get 1.5 billion, so CBC operates on a budget of about 1.5 billion dollars a year. Apparently, 450 million of that is from advertising. They raise advertising revenue, just like any media company, you pay to put an ad on. The rest comes from the government of Canada, and Mark Carney just gave them a 10% increase. So, there you go.

• 1:07:31Speaker 02

  He probably did that beforehand, I'm hoping, but I don't know.

• 1:07:35Speaker 00

  What's the, what's the date on that email? Can you tell me exactly when the date on that email is, that they sent?

• 1:07:44Speaker 00

  Can you go back to the Fox article that you have and see if it tells you what is the date of that email? Canadian rock on Thursday, on Thursday, yesterday.

• 1:07:52Speaker 02

  Yesterday.

• 1:07:53Speaker 00

  This, this memo is yesterday.

• 1:07:55Speaker 02

  And they defended it. And they defended it.

• 1:07:57Speaker 00

  And they defended it.

• 1:07:58Speaker 02

  Politically, because they were politically and emotionally loaded. You mean the truth? The truth is politically and emotionally loaded. Yes, so is killing three, over 3,000 of my citizens.

• 1:08:11Speaker 00

  That is pretty wild. That is, by the way, you know, 4.9% of Canada's Muslim population, 1.8 million, and climbing. So who knows if there was any motive there, but this is pretty wild.

• 1:08:23Speaker 02

  Cowards.

• 1:08:24Speaker 05

  I look at this as purely political because I'm trying to, what I would do in this situation is put myself in Canada's shoes. Because obviously, we're thinking as Americans, like, who the hell are these guys? Piece of crap, how dare you? Which, that sentiment is downright accurate, and if not, more disgusting than that. But I'm putting myself in Canada's shoes. So, Trump is hugely unpopular in Canada. I like what Glenn Banks said when he goes, listen, I love the Canadian people. The government is what I got a problem with, and that's why I want to focus here. So, Tom talked about Windsor. My dad's from Detroit. I would go to Windsor in a half hour. So, talk about intertwining? And by the way, we're talking about midterms, because Canada's basically saying, we've got two, three months.

• 1:09:08Speaker 05

  We think that Trump is going to lose the House. So at that point, we'll have more leverage. Boom. And then what is the state that's up for grabs that's right on the Canadian border? Michigan, this guy Al Sayed. So they're basically saying, what kind of pain can we sustain? You know, we talk about short-term pain for long-term gain. They're saying, we'll pay the price. Economically, our citizens are going to have to pay more money, we're going to deal with it in tariffs, but we're going to hopefully have Trump lose politically. And that's why this guy Doug Ford is talking tough, kiss my ass.

• 1:09:37Speaker 02

  He's the bad cop. He's just a governor, but he's the bad cop of the microphone.

• 1:09:40Speaker 05

  At the end of the day, they're betting that Trump's going to lose the midterms, that they're going to come out with more leverage in two to three months. That's why they're talking tough. They're not actually tough, they're talking tough. And they're basically saying, mess with us, we're going to do our best to make sure you lose Michigan. So, Canada ain't stupid. The government's woke, but they're not stupid.

• 1:09:59Speaker 00

  Oh, but for you to, for you to come out and have the audacity to say 9/11 wasn't a terrorist attack?

• 1:10:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:10:06Speaker 00

  Now, I think Americans need to turn that into a bigger deal. Americans.

• 1:10:12Speaker 05

  Correct.

• 1:10:13Speaker 00

  Need to turn that into a bigger deal. That's not a small, left, right, center, I don't care where you lie, you have to turn that into a bigger deal. The 25 years coming up, that's not acceptable.

• 1:10:21Speaker 05

  Why do you think they would do something?

• 1:10:22Speaker 00

  Oh, you know what I would do? I would, I would call, I would call, I would call Carney, and have my team call out to them and said, if, if this apology doesn't come from the top, and you don't clarify, we don't even want to talk to you, nothing. If from the top, you don't come out and say, the comments of CBC is not the comments of us, and clarify, and make that phone call, and they change their position?

• 1:10:42Speaker 05

  Right. And I want that today.

• 1:10:44Speaker 00

  We have a very, we have a very big problem. So, I like how he's pushing, pushing the envelope. All right, let me get to the next story. Next story, we got a bunch of other stories to get into, but the next story I want to get into is Lindsey Clancy's latest story. I don't know if you guys are following what's going on with this, but the latest story is, you know, husband speaks out, I think it's Patrick Clancy comes out, great first name, and he's talking about, he breaks silence on the conspiracy theories surrounding children's death. Uh, this is a story written by Daily Wire, Patrick Clancy breaks silence, and, and there was a guy that was about to get married to a girl, calls off the wedding because his girl, soon-to-be-wife, was supportive. We'll get to that as well, but let me read this to you. Patrick Clancy responded Tuesday to online conspiracy theories tying him to the murders

• 1:11:28Speaker 00

  of his three children, even though his ex-wife, Lindsey Clancy, acknowledged committing the crimes. The facts are indisputable. Patrick Clancy has suffered an unspeakable and unimaginable loss. Attorney Howard Cooper said in a statement, warning that those spreading false theories from minor influencers to major celebrities should be on notice that their false defamatory statements have caused real-life consequences. Hundreds of TikTokers, videos with millions of views, link Patrick to killing one claims without evidence he was the male voice Lindsey heard. Actress Lisa Rinna posted a video claiming her therapist agreed Patrick did it. Patrick did it, because you know, I also heard that women typically don't strangle. Lindsey Clancy has pleaded not guilty to murdering Cora, five-year-old, Dawson, three-year-old,

• 1:12:13Speaker 00

  and Callan, eight months, but her defense concedes she strangled them, arguing insanity. Vinnie?

• 1:12:20Speaker 03

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• 1:13:31Speaker 03

  It, it's unbelievable, first of all, that yesterday was the closing arguments, and I found out 75% of the jurors are women, so you can already imagine where this is going to go, but the prosecution said that Lindsey, this is the gist of the case, she knew what she was doing, and they pointed out her behavior before the killing as evidence that she was thinking clearly and making rational decisions. The defense is saying, obviously, severe mental problems, and not responsible, but then a forensic psychiatrist testified and said, there was two of them. One of them said, it's very unusual that the voice that she's claiming that she was hearing stopped after she strangled the youngest son, okay, Callan. The voice supposedly told her to kill the children, and then once they were dead, the voice stopped. Okay, so think about that.

• 1:14:16Speaker 03

  And I keep asking myself, but I want to know what you guys think. If a, if a father did this, guys, okay, would people, a male, would they be bending over backwards, turning him into the freaking victim? Would thousands of men be lining up at him? And I love that, I know, because we had, we had this conversation, standing outside the courtroom screaming, it's because it's his testosterone, or he was in the military, yes, PTSD, give him a break, to hell with, oh, it was the wife. It was the wife. Absolutely not. When a guy kills his freaking family, nobody's outside wearing blue shirts praising him. Do you guys remember, I just remembered this, Chris Benoit? The WWF, when it was WF. This guy killed his wife, his seven-year-old son, and then killed himself, okay, afterwards,

• 1:15:00Speaker 03

  and then they found out with the investigation, he had major brain damage, CTE. He had millions of fans. Guess how many of them were lining up anywhere praising? Zero.

• 1:15:09Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:15:10Speaker 03

  Zero. He killed his freaking family, end of story. All right? And what, and, and we talked about this earlier today, what, what bothers me about this entire thing, and Connor, if you could please have the, have the photo ready with this case, Brian, is, no, not, not, I don't want, none of that. Somewhere along this conversation became all about her mental health, her medication, Lindsey this, Lindsey suffering. This is what I want people to understand, okay? This. Nobody's talking about them. Cora's the five-year-old, Dawson's the three-year-old, and Callan's the eight-month-old. Okay, and while, while this disgusting demon was killing the girl, the three-year-old, this one, was running, trying to avoid her and get away from her.

• 1:15:51Speaker 03

  Okay, and then when she strangled that eight-month-old, it didn't die in the house, okay? It died at the hospital two days later. Its brain stem was bulging out of its back, okay, out of its neck, okay? She sent the father out to go do shopping or whatever the hell, so she could kill him, and then try to kill herself, which she couldn't do because she's a coward, okay? And God's making her live so she could face the music. All right? These are the victims. These three kids don't get to go to school, they don't get to freaking go to, they don't get to do nothing because of her. So stop this nonsense, it was the father and all that stuff. It's her, all right? And I just hope, regardless of these 75 women, percent women, Brian, they see what's going on, and they could look, look through it. Because they're all trying to divert the attention from her and go to the freaking

• 1:16:36Speaker 03

  father, that father did it.

• 1:16:38Speaker 02

  This is a, this is a, like, literally, what is the word? It is the ultimate crime. It's Medea. It's Medea. It's, it's the mother killing her children, right? So all of us have this outrage. Was it psychosis? You know, my, my thing is always this, the, the, the big, the big conversation was postpartum depression, okay? And that can cause people, and you guys don't really understand what, what people go through. That's fine. Now, you're not going to kill three kids, we, we got to stop everything. It's called the stop everything button. Here's the bigger story, though. I will say that whether she goes to a hospital for the insane or a jail, I'm actually not concerned with that. We all want punishment. These children tragically are gone.

• 1:17:21Speaker 02

  This woman is going to have to live in her own hell, blah, blah, blah. Take a look at how many medications she was on. Did you look at this list? Thirteen?

• 1:17:29Speaker 03

  But at the times, at the time, six and, and yesterday, I saw some reports though that they, the, the amount that she was on, that, that, when they tested her blood, isn't.

• 1:17:39Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 1:17:40Speaker 03

  I don't, but, but it wasn't, she, at the time, she wasn't at the, the limit and, and they've broken it, they broke it down through, uh,

• 1:17:47Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 1:17:47Speaker 03

  The, the, I'm sorry, the, the prosecution was saying from doctors, because a bunch of doctors don't understand, that at the time, when they tested her blood, it wasn't at levels to make her go crazy. And I understand, bro, years and, and the postpartum and all that stuff, but this is, and I love that you said that, Brian, the stop, the timeout, she killed them, ran around, chased them, a psychiatrist is saying this voice in the head, and then it stops happening, blamed, put everything blaming on everybody else, except for her. And I don't know about you guys, the face that she made when she looked at the jury and she gave them this freaking look, bro, I put myself in the kids looking at the mom going, oh my God, mommy is killing us. It's killing my brother and killing my sister and I'm next.

• 1:18:28Speaker 02

  It's the, it's the ultimate crime. I mean, I don't know what to say, but it's, it's the ultimate horror.

• 1:18:32Speaker 03

  But, but would it bother you though, Brian? We all want accountability. We're huge, especially here about accountability. Would you be comfortable if she does this insanity, whatever, goes into a clinic for two, three years and then she's out?

• 1:18:43Speaker 02

  No, no, no, I would not be. No, I'm not okay with that at all.

• 1:18:46Speaker 03

  Well, that's what, that's a big possibility.

• 1:18:48Speaker 02

  My thing, my thing about this is that psychosis is real and there are people, I have a friend who's kind of well-known guy. Um, his, his, his wife's mother was a wonderful lady, started taking, uh,

• 1:19:03Speaker 00

  SSRIs?

• 1:19:03Speaker 02

  Sorry. Dude, she killed the nine-year-old nephew, her husband and herself, and she was 80. She just lost her mind. They came home and it was, it was a massacre. Um, so we know these things happen. I, again, I do believe she was clearly, whether she's evil or not, whole different, I believe in good and evil, but this was somebody who was out of their mind to do this, out of their mind. I, I, I don't think you can be let out. I know the worry is like, oh, well, three years, now I'm healed. No, sorry.

• 1:19:33Speaker 00

  You think she deserves a death penalty?

• 1:19:35Speaker 02

  Retribution.

• 1:19:37Speaker 03

  For, for, Pat, let me explain something to you. Yup.

• 1:19:39Speaker 00

  If you don't make an example out of this.

• 1:19:42Speaker 03

  Then guess what this is gonna do, Brian? This is gonna set the precedent for any woman that's home right now, that's taking some pills, that just goes, hey, they'll refer to.

• 1:19:51Speaker 02

  I don't think women are gonna.

• 1:19:51Speaker 03

  I was crazy.

• 1:19:52Speaker 02

  I don't think women are gonna.

• 1:19:53Speaker 00

  There's precedent, there's precedent.

• 1:19:54Speaker 04

  You break down the facts. What are the facts? The fact is, we've said it, postpartum depression is very real and needs to be diagnosed properly and treated. Fact. Fact. She was doctor shopping for medications. That's a fact. We have found it. Fact. She was over prescribed SSRIs. Fact. Next fact. Fact. What was in her system, as I said, Rick James may have been a junkie, but he wasn't high as a kite when he died. Right? You know what I'm saying? Both can be true.

• 1:20:25Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:20:25Speaker 04

  Okay. And I take you back to the world of funk. So she may have been in possession of multiple scripts, doctor shopping and over prescribed. She was not under the influence at that level when this happened. So now we get to number four. Fact. She's in a US court of law and we're all waiting to see, will a jury see a guilty person trying to use postpartum depression and medications as her alibi in her defense? And is that gonna win? Or are we gonna say, sorry, you may have had these things here, but you are responsible for the death and you are gonna suffer these consequences?

• 1:21:05Speaker 04

  People are outside there, and I'm gonna take heat from about to say, people out there are defending her in the name of postpartum depression, when they should be calling attention to postpartum depression so we can get proper treatment for people. They're calling her innocent. They don't even care about the kids. They don't really care about her, meaning they don't really know them. They don't know them, but they're out there in the name of postpartum depression. It's like the people that were at the Floyd riots, it couldn't, they didn't even know who George Floyd was, taking advantage of the situation and levering up. This is how I see it.

• 1:21:37Speaker 02

  I just don't know how much we know about the human brain. I don't know.

• 1:21:40Speaker 03

  Well, that's.

• 1:21:41Speaker 02

  For me, I'm like, look, I believe in punishment, whether she should be in a hospital or jail, I don't know. You, that'll be decided. Um, I just don't think we have the expertise to really know. I think we're gonna find in 20 years, 30 years that we know about the brain, people have psychotic breaks and we would say, oh man, she had, she had that thing that we can now isolate, maybe, maybe, which will throw punishment into a whole new realm. I don't know, man.

• 1:22:05Speaker 04

  Well, we've done research on things like CTE and now we know what football players are suffering with.

• 1:22:09Speaker 00

  Adam, go for it.

• 1:22:09Speaker 05

  Look, at the end of the day, I just think that people are responsible for their own actions. There's a lot of people that are gonna make excuses. Well, well, it's like, can we show that picture of the three kids again?

• 1:22:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:21Speaker 05

  This mother murdered her three kids. Indisputable. Why it happened, where the, what happened, those were her actions and she's gonna pay the price for that. And, and what I'm seeing right now is, and, and I brought up this book before, Metaphor Mars, Winter from Venus. You've written a book about having logic, but also having emotion. You need both, but at the end of the day, emotion is all, I feel, I feel, I feel. The online world is, I feel about this, I feel like this. You know what's gonna happen? The court who's gonna use evidence, there's no feeling.

• 1:22:57Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:22:57Speaker 05

  They're gonna come in and say, boom, guilty. And then here's my opinion, all the people who are living in bizarre world with their feelings, here's what's gonna happen. Luigi Manjoni, ah, not a hero, guilty. Lindsay Clancy, ah, not a nice person, guilty. Oh, who killed Johnny Kirk, Charlie Kirk? Yeah, it was actually Tyler Robinson. It wasn't BB, it wasn't Erica Kirk. Exposed. All these ridiculous, I feel, theories are gonna get boom, boom, boom, exposed. That's my opinion.

• 1:23:30Speaker 00

  Yeah. So to me, this, this is, this is disturbing to watch. It's, it's, I cannot even tell you how disturbing this is to me, for me to watch. Uh, I think she deserves a death penalty. It's not even a question about it. Um, you know, sometimes you need to make an example of it and, you know, some people can call me extreme. I really couldn't care less what you think if this is extreme. You do anything to these kids, they don't deserve something like this. We gotta make an example. Number two, this guy here, folks, it's so important who you marry. It is so important who you marry. Yesterday, Tony Robbins was here a couple of days ago, and Tony and I, you know, Anthony, who does a great job with BT Gen Z, he puts, he chooses the questions. I'm like, we never know what questions this guy's gonna ask us. Just so you know, there is no prep.

• 1:24:11Speaker 00

  He just asks you the question. I'm sure he's gonna do something with you afterwards. You'll see what happens, uh, what the experience is like. This, this story right here has gone viral. My brother whom gets married in two weeks sent the entire family and hers a group chat saying he is calling off the wedding because his fiance says she supported Lindsay Clancy on Friday. And if you look at the tweet, if you wanna pull up the tweet, so you're really breaking up with me over an effing opinion? I'm not breaking up with you over an opinion. I'm breaking up with you because that opinion showed me a fundamental difference in our values. I can have compassion for someone struggling mentally without excusing what happened to those children. If I'm choosing someone to potentially be the mother of my kids, I need to trust their judgment completely,

• 1:24:53Speaker 00

  especially when it comes down to protecting them. What you said created a doubt in me that I can't ignore or gamble my future.

• 1:25:00Speaker 02

  I like this dude, bro. Hey, listen, he's just, listen, he's facing the music now because he's gonna face the music later on when half his wealth is on the line. This is, I, I always say to young people, man, be ruthless about who you choose as a mate. It's gonna make all the difference.

• 1:25:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, we were just talking.

• 1:25:18Speaker 02

  It's the most important decision of your life.

• 1:25:20Speaker 00

  Wife, when you guys were at the house and we were hanging out, what a beautiful, great soul, chill, understands your personality. It was amazing. You know, when you see somebody marrying the right person, you're just like, good for you. One of the greatest gifts.

• 1:25:36Speaker 02

  She was solid. Like I, I, the one thing about my wife, smart and solid, just like her feet were on the ground, just grounded human being, psychological.

• 1:25:45Speaker 00

  By the way, you feel that.

• 1:25:46Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:25:46Speaker 00

  You feel, sometimes you meet a guy where they're gonna like, oh my, I went to a wedding one time and at this wedding, they were doing the, what do you call it? The, the.

• 1:25:54Speaker 02

  The hora?

• 1:25:54Speaker 00

  No, you know how they stand back to back? Who's the better cook? Who's the better dancer? Who's the better this? Who's the better that? And Jen and I are at this wedding and it's who wears the, uh, pants in the house? She raised her hands.

• 1:26:09Speaker 02

  The lady.

• 1:26:10Speaker 00

  And I know this guy's an alpha.

• 1:26:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:26:14Speaker 05

  Cooked.

• 1:26:14Speaker 00

  And I, all I did is I just looked at his face.

• 1:26:17Speaker 02

  My wife would never do that to me.

• 1:26:18Speaker 00

  I looked at his face and you know what I saw? I'm like, wow.

• 1:26:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:26:23Speaker 00

  He is embarrassed, he is pissed off, he is annoyed, but he's acting like he's okay because it's funny and it's not.

• 1:26:30Speaker 02

  Nah.

• 1:26:30Speaker 00

  I got in the car, I said, this, there's no way this is gonna work out. This guy's a man's man. And he's compromising himself and he knows he's not happy. By the way, the guy remarried to a beautiful, beautiful girl. He is so happy. He's on cloud nine. They have a beautiful family. I hope they have 10 kids together.

• 1:26:46Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:26:47Speaker 00

  But the wrong girl can destroy your life and men have to nowadays, you actually have to, like when you're going through the interview process of who you marry, believe it or not, if I'm dating a girl today, I would ask and say, what do you think about this?

• 1:27:02Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:27:02Speaker 00

  The, these are the case study types of, like, you know, when I'm interviewing guys for certain jobs, you know what kind of questions I ask? I ask case study questions. Let's just say X, Y, Z were to happen, what would you do? Like, we had a whole COVID, at the beginning of COVID, we had some HR girl that was chaotic with the way she would handle it. It was, everything was 10. Everything that would happen, she would go to 10. We have to shut down the department. Everybody go home. I'm like, bro, relax, buddy. Relax, buddy. So then, you know, we started replacing and looking for another HR person. You know how I would interview? So John, let's just say, an employee in one of the departments is coughing, goes and gets tested positive for COVID. What do you do? What are your next five moves? Oh, send everybody home. Okay, cool. That's what you would do. That's the responsible thing to do.

• 1:27:46Speaker 00

  All right, fantastic. We're not hiring you. You're too extreme. What would you do? Let everybody go back to work and have them come back and work. You're also extreme. What do you think we should do? Well, number one, I would ask that person to not come to the office, take a week off. This is at the peak of COVID.

• 1:28:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:00Speaker 00

  Then I would go tell the departments that are there with them and I would, uh, let them know to go take the test right now. If they test positive, stay home. Then I would go to all the other employees, one by one by one, if they were at all in interaction with this person during lunch or anything, I would say, if you were, please go take the test. And then we would go back to business. That's what I would do. Thank you for that reasonable answer.

• 1:28:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:21Speaker 00

  Boys, men, ask these types of questions. Ladies, you also gotta ask some of these types of questions.

• 1:28:28Speaker 02

  Well, the questions are gonna come up.

• 1:28:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:28:29Speaker 02

  Eventually, you're gonna have to face the music.

• 1:28:31Speaker 00

  If you say she's beautiful, but I love her, Brian, but I love her, Brian. She's so awesome. She's got a beautiful butt. I just love the body. She's got a beautiful face.

• 1:28:40Speaker 02

  Rogan called it, Rogan called it voodoo ponani.

• 1:28:44Speaker 00

  All right, let me get to the next story. I'm gonna go to the next story on what we have here. Next story I want to get into is Dolly Parton and Jelly Roll. Both A-listers, two different approaches, and I want to show you both of them. Let's start off with Dolly Parton, obviously, legend, lost her. I remember listening to Jolene in Iran. You know, I don't know if you guys remember the Jolene song.

• 1:29:05Speaker 02

  Jolene.

• 1:29:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, one of the greatest songs. I played it for the kids yesterday.

• 1:29:08Speaker 02

  Covered by the white stripes, too.

• 1:29:10Speaker 00

  Was it really? Really? I didn't know that.

• 1:29:11Speaker 02

  Amazing.

• 1:29:12Speaker 03

  Jack White?

• 1:29:13Speaker 02

  Ah, Jack White sings that song.

• 1:29:14Speaker 00

  I didn't know that.

• 1:29:15Speaker 02

  His best song he's ever sung.

• 1:29:16Speaker 00

  So anyway, so, Dolly Parton, everybody's like, wow, she was this, and she was that, and she was this, and she was that. I just want to show you a clip. This is when Dolly Parton was asked about Donald Trump to criticize. The media was trying to get her to criticize, and look at the way she handled herself. Go for it.

• 1:29:33Speaker 15

  I just don't get into that, and so if you are deciding you may want to ask me something more serious, don't, because I'm not gonna answer it.

• 1:29:39Speaker 02

  Smart.

• 1:29:39Speaker 00

  You have a president of the United States who said those things on that bus.

• 1:29:43Speaker 15

  I'm not addressing that. I do not get into that. Of course, I have my opinion about everybody and everything, but I learned a long time ago, keep your damn mouth shut if you want to stay in show business. I'm not in politics. I'm entertaining.

• 1:29:56Speaker 02

  She is disciplined.

• 1:29:58Speaker 00

  You're also a role model.

• 1:29:59Speaker 15

  That's why I don't talk about people.

• 1:30:02Speaker 02

  She was, she was all, she was, you know how prolific songwriter she was? Do you know how special an artist this human being was? She wrote songs, any musician will tell you, they are in awe of her ability to write songs. She's been writing songs since she was, she came up so poor. I think she came up in the coal mines. I mean, they had no money, none of them did. And she, I think she came from a family of, see how many kids were in her family? Seven.

• 1:30:29Speaker 03

  I think.

• 1:30:29Speaker 02

  But this gal, from such an early age, literally said, I'm gonna be a songwriter, I'm gonna be a singer. And she is a special talent. Like, I'm talking, Patrick, I'm talking about the kind of songwriter everybody.

• 1:30:44Speaker 03

  Eleven, sorry, eleven, six brothers, five sisters.

• 1:30:46Speaker 02

  Came from nothing. All they had was Jesus.

• 1:30:48Speaker 00

  I love that.

• 1:30:49Speaker 02

  They had Jesus, and they had.

• 1:30:51Speaker 00

  Are you joking, or are you being serious?

• 1:30:52Speaker 02

  I'm not joking.

• 1:30:52Speaker 00

  But they had Jesus.

• 1:30:53Speaker 02

  They had Jesus. They had a small church that they would go to, and that's how she came up, with those iron-fast values, and all she said is, I'm gonna create my way out of this problem. She became one of the great American songwriters that so many other artists cover. You should take a look at all the other songs she's written for other artists. It's astonishing, and kept her class, and, and, Donald Trump said the greatest thing. Total Trumpian answer, he goes, she liked me. That was, that was his eulogy. Yeah, she liked me. But she was, she was a special soulmate.

• 1:31:27Speaker 00

  I saw something on social yesterday, you prompted this thought, about the song, "I Will Always Love You." Okay, so check this out. One of the greatest business decision in music history ever, and the song was, "I Will Always Love You." Dolly Parton wrote in 1973, Vinny, to this Valentine's, what he's saying, as a farewell to her longtime music partner and mentor, Porter Wagner, she wasn't writing a romantic breakup, she was telling Wagner, essentially, I love and appreciate you, but I need to leave and build my own career. Her recording reached number one in the country in 1974. Then Elvis reaches out and wanted to record it. Dolly was ecstatic. This is Elvis, it's 1973.

• 1:32:07Speaker 00

  Elvis had apparently already worked up his version, and Dolly was invited to attend the recording session, Vinny. But the day before the session, Elvis's manager, you know, the famous Colonel Tom Parker, yeah, called Dolly with a condition. Elvis generally wouldn't record a song unless his side received publishing rights, and in this case, at least 50% of the publishing. Dolly refused. That was incredibly difficult, because having Elvis record your song in the 70s could transform a songwriter's career. Dolly later said, she cried all night, because she desperately wanted to hear Elvis sing it.

• 1:32:43Speaker 02

  Wow, what a, what a. Think about the business mind.

• 1:32:46Speaker 00

  That's right.

• 1:32:47Speaker 02

  The long-term thinking.

• 1:32:48Speaker 00

  Considered the song one of the most valuable copyrights in her publishing company, and wanted to preserve it for herself, and then comes the incredible payoff. 20 years later, Whitney Houston, in the movie Bodyguard, in 1992.

• 1:33:01Speaker 02

  Crushed it.

• 1:33:03Speaker 00

  She, her version became an absolute milestone, 14 weeks at number one on Billboard Hot 100. It eventually sold 20 million copies.

• 1:33:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:11Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:33:11Speaker 02

  Oh, that's so much.

• 1:33:12Speaker 00

  It became one of the most successful singles ever recorded by female artists. Dolly still owned the publishing rights, till the day she passed away.

• 1:33:20Speaker 02

  That, that was so unheard of back then.

• 1:33:23Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 1:33:24Speaker 00

  So, so. For a female, for, for, and by the way, 1973, how old is she in 73? That's 53 years, right?

• 1:33:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:32Speaker 00

  So she died at 80, 50, 27 years old.

• 1:33:36Speaker 02

  27 years old.

• 1:33:37Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 1:33:38Speaker 00

  By the way, Elvis died a year later. I think Elvis died in 74.

• 1:33:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, he did.

• 1:33:41Speaker 00

  What year did Elvis die?

• 1:33:43Speaker 02

  1974.

• 1:33:43Speaker 00

  Is it 74?

• 1:33:44Speaker 02

  It was 77.

• 1:33:45Speaker 00

  Can you, can you type what year Elvis died?

• 1:33:47Speaker 02

  I think it was 1977.

• 1:33:48Speaker 00

  77, you're right, he died 77, yeah, pretty wild.

• 1:33:51Speaker 03

  So, so, to piggyback on Brian, so 14 people in the family lived in a one-room cabin in Smoky Mountains. The cabin had no electricity, no indoor plumbing. For her childhood, they had to use the outhouse, they drew water, all the children shared beds, and she told stories about the family sometimes paying doctors with food, including a sack of cornmeal after her birth.

• 1:34:10Speaker 02

  Her, her mother had the first child at 15 years old. She tells a great story about her mother crying, because she couldn't get, she, she had to give all the, they had little grab bags at church during Christmas, and her mom didn't get one. And she saw her mom crying, and she said, I'll give you my mommy. She, her, her mother just suffered, long-suffering woman, but she loved her mother so much. She's telling a story and crying over it.

• 1:34:31Speaker 03

  I love her.

• 1:34:32Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:34:32Speaker 00

  By the way, she's gorgeous, she's beautiful, she's as American as apple pie.

• 1:34:36Speaker 03

  Look at her.

• 1:34:36Speaker 00

  And.

• 1:34:37Speaker 02

  She's the best America has to offer. That's, you want to talk about a story about potential? It's beautiful.

• 1:34:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, seriously, look at that picture right there, Vinny.

• 1:34:45Speaker 03

  It's like Anna Nicole Smith without all the, she's gorgeous.

• 1:34:48Speaker 02

  With a sense of humor, too.

• 1:34:49Speaker 00

  With a sense of humor and personality.

• 1:34:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:34:52Speaker 05

  Let me tell you something about Dolly Parton. I think she's the last of her kind. And, and, because I think the political landscape has changed so much a lot. What we're talking about is that she was apolitical. You know that she turned down the Medal of Freedom three times? She goes, I don't even want to go to the White House, I don't even want to deal with this. One of my favorite quotes that she said, she goes, listen, I made a lot of money, but I don't count my money. I count my blessings, and I praise the Lord above. I was like, where you go, Dolly? What's your bad self? But, let me tell.

• 1:35:19Speaker 02

  She stayed close to God, bro.

• 1:35:20Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 1:35:20Speaker 02

  Like, for real.

• 1:35:21Speaker 05

  Let me tell you who the exact opposite of Dolly Parton is, and I'll give you a reason why, is this guy Jelly Roll. Now, you can make the argument that it's literally Taylor Swift, who's basically abandoned her country base to go pop culture, but this guy Jelly Roll.

• 1:35:34Speaker 02

  He's the best, he's my friend.

• 1:35:35Speaker 05

  Well, now he's about to be the worst, homeboy.

• 1:35:37Speaker 02

  No, dude, he's awesome.

• 1:35:38Speaker 05

  Let me, let me give you my theory.

• 1:35:39Speaker 02

  Go on.

• 1:35:40Speaker 05

  And let me tell you why. Did you see him on Kimmel?

• 1:35:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, so what? He made some jokes about President Trump.

• 1:35:45Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:35:46Speaker 02

  If you can't criticize your president, you're not an American.

• 1:35:48Speaker 05

  You can criticize Trump all you want, but let me tell you something, buddy. Let me tell you, Dolly Parton, I'm gonna use a drink joke right here, you could use this in your set. Dolly Parton aged like a.

• 1:35:58Speaker 02

  Tonight, Miami Improv. Tomorrow, Miami Improv. Sunday, Miami Improv.

• 1:36:03Speaker 03

  Adam's jokes going through Brian.

• 1:36:04Speaker 05

  Take my jokes, well, Dolly Parton.

• 1:36:07Speaker 00

  It's great that Adam thinks very highly of himself, with his ability with jokes. You have to respect that.

• 1:36:12Speaker 05

  This isn't a joke, it's, it's truth.

• 1:36:14Speaker 02

  Love.

• 1:36:15Speaker 05

  Here's what I want to say about Dolly and your boy Jelly Roll. I don't know Jelly Roll like that. I don't know, I guess he's got some songs, whatever, but I've done some research. Dolly Parton aged like a fine wine, gracefully, beautiful, likable. This guy Jelly Roll, he is the country version of Bud Light.

• 1:36:34Speaker 02

  You're out of your mind.

• 1:36:35Speaker 05

  What do I mean? He's abandoned his fans and his base and the country music that loves Trump to appease the Jimmy Kimmel audience? Did we not learn the lesson from Bud Light?

• 1:36:47Speaker 02

  Adam, he's joking, he's making a joke.

• 1:36:49Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:36:49Speaker 02

  You know what I'm saying?

• 1:36:50Speaker 05

  No, no, I don't think he's.

• 1:36:52Speaker 00

  Hang on, play the clip. So here's, here's what it is, and folks, let's, let's run a poll, hang on.

• 1:36:57Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:36:57Speaker 00

  Let's run a poll, and, and say, went too far, everything's on the line. Nothing wrong with his joke, just simple, those two, go for it.

• 1:37:07Speaker 16

  Well, Mr. President, from one fat pig to another, take it from me, that physical fitness is very important. And trust me, you'll be happy to see your penis again.

• 1:37:17Speaker 00

  You think that's a good joke, Brian?

• 1:37:18Speaker 16

  I do.

• 1:37:19Speaker 00

  Pete, look, your cop. Look, look, look. What the audience says, this is good, let, let him finish.

• 1:37:23Speaker 16

  Here, y'all, the first time I seen mine recently, I was surprised at how cute it was.

• 1:37:28Speaker 16

  It kind of looked like a little Labubu doll.

• 1:37:32Speaker 02

  First of all, somebody wrote that for him.

• 1:37:33Speaker 16

  You should not laugh that hard at my penis.

• 1:37:37Speaker 02

  So you, wait, wait, hold on. So, so a couple of things about Jelly Roll.

• 1:37:40Speaker 00

  Have the other clip the next day, we'll come to it.

• 1:37:42Speaker 02

  And somebody knows him, and I know a lot of people that spend a lot of time with him. There's, there's no better person. He's the nicest human being, and so talented.

• 1:37:48Speaker 00

  I mean, just look at him, he looks like a great guy. Adam, let him speak.

• 1:37:50Speaker 02

  Adam, Adam, you're so off on this, I can't tell you, you couldn't be more off. The last guy you want to go bat on is Jelly Roll. He is such a generous, incredible human being, so talented, and he was that way before he was famous, and he's that way now. I'm just telling you, as somebody who knows him, I can't defend him more. He made one joke about Donald Trump, he said, as one fat pig to another, so he's, he's being self-deprecating. You're that sensitive about Donald Trump? You're protecting Donald Trump?

• 1:38:20Speaker 05

  I'm actually not protecting Donald Trump at all. I'm calling Jelly Roll the Bud Light. I'm, I'm not criticizing, I haven't criticized him once.

• 1:38:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, he has.

• 1:38:27Speaker 05

  I'm criticizing his decisions. I don't know anything about him.

• 1:38:30Speaker 00

  Let me do this, hang on, let me play the clip and then go. So this is the next day, because he did it twice, so he got all this pushback from MAGA voters who were not happy about his joke, and then here's what he said the next day, go for it.

• 1:38:42Speaker 16

  What a turn of events. Who would have guessed I'd get in more trouble with the president than Rosie O'Donnell?

• 1:38:49Speaker 16

  I love you, Rosie, thanks for having my back today, baby. Some folks online were upset that I didn't treat the president with reverence and dignity. But I want to remind you all that I go by the name Jelly Roll.

• 1:39:03Speaker 16

  I don't even treat myself with reverence and dignity. One day I looked in the mirror and said, you, my friend, are a pastry.

• 1:39:13Speaker 16

  Frankly, I think most people were just surprised that I had any opinions at all. They see a guy that looks like me and assume the only opinion I have is whether I prefer my meth crystal or classic.

• 1:39:23Speaker 06

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• 1:40:40Speaker 02

  He's great. Just a quick little note about him for a sec?

• 1:40:44Speaker 00

  Did he make the comment about, "I don't really care what you think"?

• 1:40:47Speaker 16

  Now, let's be honest for a second. Any US president should be able to handle a few jokes, right? Yes. They should also be able to handle gas prices, healthcare, and the occasional international conflict.

• 1:41:00Speaker 16

  But beggars can't be true.

• 1:41:05Speaker 16

  Look, y'all, I get it that some people are mad at me for goofing on Trump. But if you wanted me to make jokes about Kamala Harris, you should have voted for her.

• 1:41:14Speaker 02

  Not about jokes!

• 1:41:17Speaker 05

  I think you're blinded by your friendship with him. I don't know him at all, and I'm just being head-ass honest.

• 1:41:22Speaker 02

  Hold on, hold on. Hold on, here's the thing.

• 1:41:24Speaker 05

  How well do you know him?

• 1:41:25Speaker 02

  I know him well enough. I've known him for years.

• 1:41:27Speaker 05

  But the average person doesn't know him at all.

• 1:41:29Speaker 02

  I know, but...

• 1:41:30Speaker 05

  So your personal opinion, frankly, my friend...

• 1:41:32Speaker 00

  So where are you at, though? Tell me, because your tiebreaker is gonna be Vinnie.

• 1:41:36Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:41:37Speaker 00

  Okay, in a minute. So, Vinnie, a lot of pressure on you, and I hope you stick to your bone...

• 1:41:40Speaker 02

  One caveat.

• 1:41:40Speaker 00

  ...to what you think it is.

• 1:41:41Speaker 02

  One caveat.

• 1:41:42Speaker 05

  Oh, I'm already writing it.

• 1:41:43Speaker 02

  He loves stand-up, and so Jelly's always loved stand-up. So he would come stand-up, like when I was...

• 1:41:49Speaker 05

  I'm sure he's a great guy.

• 1:41:50Speaker 02

  The bottom line is, he loves stand-up. So he's probably nervous. Somebody wrote these jokes. He's trying to do stuff. All I see is a guy actually making good jokes, making fun of himself, saying something that is not at all politically charged, even a little bit. I love that he's making fun of Trump. I love that comedians make fun of comedians. This makes me wanna make... Yeah.

• 1:42:10Speaker 00

  So this is the part. This is the part I want you to listen to. Go for it.

• 1:42:13Speaker 16

  For those who threaten to stop listening to me, my music based on my comments last night, I just wanna say with conviction, go right ahead, because I'm gonna keep speaking my truth, or my name isn't Post Malone.

• 1:42:26Speaker 00

  All right, go ahead.

• 1:42:27Speaker 05

  It's great. Look, I'll give the disclaimer. I'm sure he's been through some stuff. Seems like a great guy, lost a lot of weight. This is zero personal. I'm calculating the business decision. You went on Jimmy Kimmel.

• 1:42:41Speaker 02

  Oh, you're saying it's a bad decision?

• 1:42:43Speaker 05

  Horrible business decision.

• 1:42:45Speaker 02

  I'm with...

• 1:42:45Speaker 05

  Horrible business decision. And let me explain why, because you think that I'm attacking him. I'm attacking his decisions. And this is the reason that I called Jelly Roll the Bud Light of country music, is because he's abandoned his base. What percent of his base do you think is country, literally, country? Country music? Trump MAGA? I would say 80, 90% for a Jimmy Kimmel woke audience. And it wasn't just the bad that Jimmy Kimmel took a night off. They had Rosie frickin' O'Donnell the night before. So you're basically saying, "I'm gonna make a business decision. I'm gonna abandon my country base, and I'm gonna go after Kimmel's audience." And just like Bud Light, your base is gonna be like, "You know what, Jelly Roll?" And that's what's gonna happen. And you know what?

• 1:43:27Speaker 02

  I think you're speaking...

• 1:43:28Speaker 05

  All of a sudden, all of a sudden!

• 1:43:29Speaker 02

  I think if you were his agent, I'd be listening to you.

• 1:43:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's...

• 1:43:33Speaker 05

  That's my point.

• 1:43:34Speaker 03

  And that's the case, like, see, and this is why, you know him from personal experience, and I've seen clips of him and how he treats fans, and I think it's awesome.

• 1:43:41Speaker 02

  Such a good guy.

• 1:43:42Speaker 03

  But, oh, and I don't doubt that at all.

• 1:43:44Speaker 02

  I don't even think he's political either.

• 1:43:45Speaker 03

  I don't think so, because, by the way, he's met and hung out and talked with Trump at the UFC fights. I know he's recently divorced and all that, and, you know, put all that aside, but as a business decision, I think he's right, because why would anybody... Like, think about the Jimmy Kimmel Show. Jimmy Kimmel is one of the most tedious, gone people, and to me, every time, behind every liberal Trump-hating man is a liberal wife, because he's a beta, and she's in charge. You know who's the head writer of the show? Jimmy Kimmel's wife.

• 1:44:14Speaker 02

  Is that true?

• 1:44:15Speaker 03

  She's the writer. Google... Connor, look up who's the head writer.

• 1:44:18Speaker 02

  I think what you're saying, and it makes sense, what you're saying is that if you're gonna go on a show like Jimmy Kimmel, who clearly has deep animosity to Trump and is very Hollywood, and we know, we watched him go from being a bro and actually funny to be in this thing that's like, hard to...

• 1:44:35Speaker 03

  Because think about the...

• 1:44:35Speaker 05

  Go woke, go broke. He went woke.

• 1:44:38Speaker 03

  Molly McNearney is the co-head writer, bro. That's why the show is losing, and I just feel like, and like you said, as an agent, as a decision, it went from Jimmy Kimmel to Rosie O'Donnell. Why would they even let somebody come up there? It's not gonna do anything but hurt your career, because you're country. The country loves, the majority of these people are Trump people. Why would you go on there? And by the way, and it's a joke, I'm a comedian. It's a joke, I get it. Why would you, as an agent, let him go on there and crap his fanbase?

• 1:45:11Speaker 02

  Because when you get to Hollywood, it is a very seductive thing.

• 1:45:15Speaker 05

  Here it is, and this is what it is.

• 1:45:17Speaker 02

  And there's money and...

• 1:45:18Speaker 03

  Oh, well, he's about to lose money.

• 1:45:20Speaker 02

  He's been struggling his whole life, like, there's a lot that goes on, and I think...

• 1:45:25Speaker 05

  He's sold out. Just say he's sold out.

• 1:45:27Speaker 02

  Well, I think what he did was, I don't even think he thinks that way. I think he's just a guy who wants to make everybody happy. He's just such a good... I think, to your point, though, as his agent, I think you'd be like, I think...

• 1:45:37Speaker 05

  I think the agent...

• 1:45:38Speaker 03

  If they had James Carville, like, "Hey, I hate Trump." Okay, good job. Another hater.

• 1:45:44Speaker 05

  I know, you wanna move on?

• 1:45:45Speaker 02

  As his agent, someone should have been like, what you just said?

• 1:45:48Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 1:45:49Speaker 02

  I'm now, I'm now...

• 1:45:50Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 1:45:51Speaker 02

  As his business manager, I'm going, "Hey, hey, hey, I think we choose another show."

• 1:45:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:45:57Speaker 05

  Go host Conan. By the way, real quick, who do you think he voted for? Trump or Kamala?

• 1:46:02Speaker 02

  Jelly Roll? I wouldn't be surprised if it was Trump, but I don't think he voted for anybody.

• 1:46:04Speaker 05

  Because he voted for Trump!

• 1:46:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:06Speaker 05

  That's my point. I was speculating that he probably voted for Trump and for fame, for Hollywood fame, he just abandoned him.

• 1:46:14Speaker 00

  Let's go, it's not that important. Okay. You made a joke, great Jelly Roll, go do your thing, and, you know, just be aware that you also have a lot of loyal people on the other side. I think he did an interview with somebody that afterwards, you're like, you just fell in love with the guy. I messaged him, I'm like, "What a frickin' great interview you did," and he messaged back, and...

• 1:46:31Speaker 02

  Such a sweetheart.

• 1:46:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, but, you know, listen, you have to be careful. This is a very weird space that you're maneuvering through. Like, I remember one time The Rock did that one video, "Where are you? Where are you?" And it was, he was voting for Biden, and he was calling out Trump, and I'm like, "That's a weird video." And then he's like, "Dude, I'm not doing any of this political bullshit again, moving forward." He learned from his mistake, and he stepped away. And by the way, Rock is probably, you know what I'm saying? He's probably a conservative.

• 1:46:59Speaker 05

  He's straight. Let's just leave it at that.

• 1:47:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I'm just saying, he's probably straight. All right, let's go to the next story. Next one I'm gonna get into is a story about Dad Brain, and then I'm gonna go to the presidential ranking of Trump, Piker, Cuban, Kelsey, and we'll do the OutKast video, which you guys gotta see. But let me go to this Dad Brain story, which I read the other day. I'm like, it's actually a very interesting story. This is a story of what happens to men when they become fathers, okay? What happens to men when they become fathers? I mean, obviously, none of that is happening right now. There are three fathers, and two that are probably eventually gonna be one, God willing. But here's what this book says. Dad Brain: New Science of Fatherhood and How It Shapens Men's Lives by Kevin Maguire.

• 1:47:46Speaker 00

  He says, "Number one, male brain changes with fatherhood.

• 1:47:51Speaker 00

  Men experience measurable neurological changes when they become actively involved fathers. Brain systems associated with empathy, vigilance, attachment, planning, and caregiving become more engaged. In other words, nurturing isn't exclusively a maternal biology. Fathers, men become nurturing and protective. Number two, hormones change. Fatherhood can alter testosterone, oxycodin, crystal, cortisol, and other hormones. Testosterone often declines somewhat highly involved fathers while bonding-related systems become more active. These changes may shift men from competition and mating toward protection and caregiving." All right, three. Involvement matters.

• 1:48:36Speaker 00

  Simply having a child isn't the whole story. The more time a father spends holding, feeding, comforting, playing, with, teaching, and caring for the child, the more those caregiving systems are reinforced. Fatherhood is partly biological, but it's also somewhat men protecting, practice themselves into. Children change fathers, and fathers change children. The relationship works in both directions. Children influence their fathers' brains and behavior, while engaged fathers can influence children's emotional regulation, confidence, social development risk-taking. Number five...

• 1:49:10Speaker 00

  Fatherhood reshapes identity. Many men experience a profound transition from thinking primarily about themselves and their ambitions to thinking about legacy, responsibility, protection, and meaning. Six, fathers struggle. Two, new fathers can experience anxiety, depression, isolation, relationship stress, sleep deprivation, and feeling of inadequacy. And alas, but not least, there isn't one correct way to father. The science challenges the stereotype that fathers must behave like mothers to be valuable. Fathers can bring different form of play, challenge, exploration, discipline, humor, and calculated risk that can complement maternal parenting. Tom, do you agree with this?

• 1:49:50Speaker 04

  Well, he's claiming he's got to study. He's claiming he's really dove into it. So I don't want to challenge his data, and I'm not going to. But I will say this. You know, once you have kids, there is a sense of protection. You're more aware, I think, of the things that are going on in the world, especially with girls. And so is that a chemical change in my brain? Or is that a natural, just a natural response to me going from being a guy to being a husband to being a father biologically to being a dad in all senses of the word? And so being protective. In motorsports, it's really classy. It's classic. They will say that when a guy loses a couple tents, or he loses a little guts, they'll

• 1:50:35Speaker 04

  say, well, the phone rang. He's a dad now. He's not racing the way he did when he was 28 before his kids were born. Formula One drivers have said that about each other. And says, I can take a little bit of different chance here. Not suicidal, but I don't think he will. Because now that he's got kids, he's become a slightly different driver. And so I see it through those lenses, because I'm familiar with that sport quite a lot, and I have seen it. And the drivers deny it. I'm the same guy I was, I'm just competitive, I won. And people say in certain circumstances, maybe, maybe not. But I think there is a change. Can I validate that it's a chemical change, everything that happened to me? I don't think so. But I'm more protective, aware, and I wanted to be a great dad and make sure that I was there and provided education.

• 1:51:20Speaker 04

  And so there's different things I was thinking about that I never even considered when I was merely a husband, or even before, before I was married, but I was an uncle.

• 1:51:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, and by the way, the story you're talking about is of Alonso was going up against Schumacher, and he said, I knew I would overtake him. I knew he would break because he has a wife and two kids at home.

• 1:51:42Speaker 04

  Damn, that's true, though. Because what happens is when you have children, I got four kids, your provider protector part of your brain takes over all the other stuff. So I was with a bunch of guys, just, you know, guys who were kind of single, 40, and just talking about all the, just the life. And I thought to myself, there's none of that in my brain. All I'm constantly thinking about is, I got the two-year-old, four-year-old, I got the 15-year-old, got the 18-year-old in college. So I'm so consumed with all of that stuff. I gotta, I gotta make sure they're okay. That's a lot, that's a lot of planning. It just dawned on me that I don't even think about that stuff anymore. I lost all my mojo, but I'm happy I did.

• 1:52:22Speaker 04

  In a way, I think there's something beautiful and very, very, the best thing in a lot of ways, I never thought I'd say this, is that when you're a father, you're 100% in a position of service. If you're a husband and a wife, I mean, I'm sorry, if you're a father and a husband, you're basically, you're basically, it's all about service. But that takes a lot of pressure off you in a weird way.

• 1:52:43Speaker 00

  Adam, thoughts?

• 1:52:45Speaker 05

  Look, I don't have dad brain. I'm just trying to avoid dad bod at this point. But one day, maybe, let's just say I'm taking notes.

• 1:52:54Speaker 04

  Adam's got this town locked down. I've never, he's never come to my show where he didn't have, there was a very colorful group of people, and they were all very fun to look at, and almost all female. So whatever he's doing is...

• 1:53:05Speaker 03

  Oh, no, I think it's, I think it's interesting. I mean, I know how I am just around my nieces and my nephews, and that feeling of, like, I don't, I don't know, because I'm not a father, but I feel that sense of urgency, the protection, even when I'm around Pat's kids or Tom's kids.

• 1:53:20Speaker 04

  You're great with kids.

• 1:53:21Speaker 03

  It's like, oh, I love them, and I love them. Because I, I, you know, see them, and I see the beauty, and I see God in all of them because they're so freaking amazing. They haven't been corrupted by anything yet. It's just play, and they have that light in their eyes. They're literally angels. So that's what, you know, when I hear stories about Leclancy, which drive me crazy, but I, I, I could see how it turns, Pat, from like, you're that guy, the 40-year-old guy, to like, oh my God, everything now is focused on this.

• 1:53:49Speaker 04

  Do you remember Magnolia, that movie? Tom, Paul Thomas Anderson?

• 1:53:53Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:53:54Speaker 04

  And when, what's his name, the character says, "It is not a mistake to confuse angels with children."

• 1:54:00Speaker 03

  Was it Philip Seymour Hoffman?

• 1:54:01Speaker 04

  It was so beautiful. No, it was the other guy.

• 1:54:03Speaker 03

  I know who you're talking about.

• 1:54:04Speaker 04

  The guy on, whatever it's called, but it was such a powerful movie. It's like, it's true. He had braces on.

• 1:54:09Speaker 03

  I know, I know you're talking about...

• 1:54:10Speaker 04

  Angels and children are kind of the same thing.

• 1:54:12Speaker 00

  By the way, you know, it is, it is very true. But I want to show you this clip, because, go for it, play this clip. This is the, this is the moment.

• 1:54:19Speaker 17

  Alonso is the most famous driver in F1. And in 2005, he would say something that is still remembered to this day, and you won't believe what it was about.

• 1:54:27Speaker 00

  And they show which part it was. When Schumacher slowed down.

• 1:54:29Speaker 17

  It was 20 years ago at the Japanese Grand Prix, where Alonso started 16th and had 59 laps to get into the points to secure Renault, the constructors' championship title.

• 1:54:37Speaker 00

  That was it.

• 1:54:38Speaker 17

  In lap 18, he was behind the Ferrari of Michael Schumacher, and he had his eyes on the seven-time world champion. At the apex, Alonso's Renault R25 reached 340 kilometers an hour.

• 1:54:49Speaker 00

  He knew Schumacher would slow down.

• 1:54:50Speaker 17

  And Schumacher, the biggest bully on the grid at the time, was countered by a young driver. After the race, Alonso was asked about how he managed to overtake Schumacher, and all he said was, "I knew he would break because he has a wife and two kids at home."

• 1:55:03Speaker 04

  Damn, so true. By the way, that's at the track called Suzuka, and it's the 130R corner, which is one of the most ferocious corners in F1 history.

• 1:55:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, so this is like, to be able to do that at that moment, he's not going to take that kind of risk.

• 1:55:17Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 1:55:18Speaker 00

  He's already got the seven championships and all that other stuff. But I, I think, you know, when, when my dad would say, you've changed, you've changed. I'd say, what do you mean, I've changed? Kids are changing you. You've changed, you've changed, you've changed. They are literally going to change you. And people are going to see you. And boys change you in a different way than girls change you. I got two boys, two girls, they're going to change you, and it's a beautiful thing that happens. And it's a show for everybody around you that they see you go through it. It's entertainment for the people around you that witnessed this reality taking place. All right, let me get to the next story.

• 1:55:53Speaker 04

  By the way, how do the boys change you versus the girls change you?

• 1:55:56Speaker 00

  Uh, listen, you know, in, in, I'm writing a book right now, Fatherhood, you know, we don't know when it's going to come out, next year, two years, three years. But one of the things is that every one of us, men especially, as you age, you're trying to be a man, but you're a 46-year-old still acting like a little boy, and you don't even know it. Your selfish score is super high. You're 32 years old, and you're still thinking about, but I don't want to give up the party, and, but I don't want to give up this, and I, you're still the boy of, that's not, you better, you still have all these boy tendencies. Let me tell you, when you have a boy, they're either going to force it out of you, or you will be exposed. You don't have a choice. You will be exposed.

• 1:56:41Speaker 00

  People are going to see that you're either going to become a man. So imagine like you, you were 16-year-old boy, you're a 27-year-old boy, man, you're 35-year-old boy, man, but maybe at 17 years old, you were 90% boy, 10% man. Maybe at 28 years old, you're 70% boy, 30% man. Maybe at 36 years old, at 40% boy, 60% man. But even that 40%, it'll be forced out of you. Because, because you're like, you, you're giving kids advice on what to do, and you're not even listening to yourself. You're like, wait a minute, how are you trying to shape somebody else when you're, you're hypocrite? So you're constantly going to be pressured with hypocrisy of your own self.

• 1:57:21Speaker 00

  And that's like, yeah, but I'm different, but let me tell, but he's got to learn from the mistakes, and I'm not accountable to it, but it's for him, because I want him, but I can get away with these. No, you can't, bro. It is gonna, it is gonna just go bam, bam, bam, and you're either gonna say, you know what, I don't want to give up being a boy, or no, man, I want to be a man. You're gonna go through it. None of us are free from it.

• 1:57:45Speaker 04

  How did the girl change you?

• 1:57:47Speaker 00

  Oh, it's like glass. It's like crystal. It's like way delicate. Like, we went to a restaurant the other day, and I said this story a little bit. Senna says, "That man is looking at me," to mom. Mom whispers it to me that when she went to the bathroom, a guy was looking. I said, "Wait, what, babe?" She's 10 years old. "Who was it?" "But babe, don't do anything, but it's that guy right there." So, all of a sudden, me, Merle, Tikron, and Vinnie, we're all looking at him like this.

• 1:58:17Speaker 02

  The Assyrian mafia.

• 1:58:18Speaker 00

  This guy looks at us, and he's like, "Why are these guys looking at me like that?" And we're just like this. Everybody, for like, when I tell you we're looking at him like this for a good minute, he's sitting there, and then the people he's sitting across, probably 55 years old, they start looking at us. And I'm trying to get a, and he was a sketchy guy.

• 1:58:38Speaker 05

  How far away are they from you?

• 1:58:39Speaker 00

  10 yards. Sketchy guy. And I'm looking at him, and then Senna comes to me and says, "Dad, it's probably nothing. He's probably just a fan, and you know, he's probably just..." I said, "No, no, babe, no 25-year-old looks at a 10-year-old for that long." So, the entire time, every move the girl's made, going to the bathroom, so Vinnie's going with them. And we're always strapped, like, we're ready. Something happens, but you know, you, you become overly, overly protective. Over, you're, you're, you think you have imagination? Until you have a daughter. When you have a daughter, your imagination of what you can do to a man that harms your daughter, you will realize how creative we are.

• 1:59:21Speaker 02

  And by the way, when they turn, when they turn teenagers, they want to get away from you. They hate you. You're just like, "What'd I do?"

• 1:59:29Speaker 05

  What about, like, the positive attributes of that? Like, you'll kill somebody.

• 1:59:33Speaker 00

  You're gonna be, you, you, you realize how gentle you have to be with these people. It's gonna, it's gonna force you to become gentle, and... But also, you just have to realize, you know, what you did to some girls, other boys are gonna do to your girls, too.

• 1:59:49Speaker 02

  That's it, dude.

• 1:59:50Speaker 05

  I gotta go, Gary.

• 1:59:52Speaker 00

  You know, so it's like...

• 1:59:53Speaker 02

  And boys are easier, because you can, I might joke, but it's true, is like, boys are easier because I can, I can keep them in line, because I can threaten them with violence. It's like, you don't want to do that. How about, would you rather die? I can't do that with my daughter.

• 2:00:06Speaker 00

  As much as he's joking, it's real.

• 2:00:07Speaker 02

  Bro, my daughter, at the age of 6 years old, gamed the system. She knew I couldn't do it. She knew I'd be like, "Woo!" And she'd be like, "No." And I'm like, I'd go to her mother. I'd be like, "You deal with it. I can't."

• 2:00:17Speaker 05

  So, what's your technique if you can't hit her?

• 2:00:18Speaker 02

  Well, you freak out. I would just, there's nothing you can do. You gotta just figure out, you gotta manipulate. You gotta figure it out. Boys, they're afraid of you. My daughter wasn't afraid of me. She was like, "She..."

• 2:00:28Speaker 00

  There you go. Well, listen, one day, if it ever happens, you, you, you will tell us how you're changing, and we'll watch it. All right, next story I want to get to is, the president yesterday decides to post a tweet of the greatest presidents of all time. And the market loses their shit.

• 2:00:46Speaker 02

  He's so hilarious, man.

• 2:00:47Speaker 00

  He puts himself as the greatest at the top. Can you zoom in a little bit?

• 2:00:51Speaker 02

  Look at his face.

• 2:00:52Speaker 00

  And then he puts great, he puts great as Lincoln. Go a little bit, can you, oh, you can zoom, okay. Great, he puts Lincoln, Washington, FDR, and all these other, you know, Wilson, Jefferson, whatever. Okay, so then average.

• 2:01:06Speaker 02

  Jackson, Jackson.

• 2:01:07Speaker 00

  He puts Bill Clinton. He puts all these other guys, and then below average, he puts all these other guys, and then failures. Biden, Obama, I think Carter's gotta be somewhere there at the end.

• 2:01:18Speaker 02

  He is, he is.

• 2:01:19Speaker 00

  Yeah. Grant and all these other guys as failures.

• 2:01:21Speaker 05

  Ulysses S. Grant?

• 2:01:22Speaker 00

  Ulysses S. Grant was not a good president. He was a good general, but he was VP of Lincoln. I think he was the replacement that came two terms after Lincoln, because he fought for him. He, he went and won the war for him.

• 2:01:32Speaker 02

  Amazing.

• 2:01:33Speaker 00

  So, now, everybody watches, they're like, "Wait a minute. You're missing Reagan." "Where is Reagan?" So, is Reagan average? Is he this, is he that? And people don't realize, this is actually an article that was from 1948. Okay, that he took, and he put great, near great, average, failures. But he took that additional failures, and he added Obama, Biden, and Carter.

• 2:02:01Speaker 02

  So good.

• 2:02:02Speaker 00

  But the funny thing is, Mr. President, how do you not add Reagan as great? Come on.

• 2:02:09Speaker 05

  You messed up on that.

• 2:02:09Speaker 00

  How you not add Reagan as great? And I know one time, he was, I don't know which press conference it was, he says, "Listen, Newt, a lot of people say, you know, I'm, you know, greatest, uh..." Says, "Now, Mr. President, you're not yet the greatest." I don't know if you guys have ever seen this exchange? Have you seen it?

• 2:02:23Speaker 05

  With Newt Gingrich?

• 2:02:24Speaker 00

  It's phenom, I don't, if you gotta look or to find, you gotta find it. I don't know if the guys in the back will find it.

• 2:02:29Speaker 05

  And Reagan, and what were they talking about?

• 2:02:30Speaker 00

  They're literally on stage, and it's like a press conference.

• 2:02:33Speaker 02

  It's Newton Trump or Newt.

• 2:02:35Speaker 00

  Newt Gingrich and Trump. This is like 2 years ago.

• 2:02:37Speaker 05

  Oh, this is recent.

• 2:02:38Speaker 00

  This is recent. 18 months ago, he says, "No, sir, you're not the greatest." But, you know, you, you could get there. He's like, "Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I agree with them." I think, so it's such a funny exchange. This is so... This is so important to him. So, how do, how do you process this? How do you process when you see this?

• 2:02:53Speaker 05

  I mean, well, first of all, who brought this to him? Because that means, yeah, he's probably sitting around going, "I'm the best," and somebody goes, "You know what, Mr. President? There was a historian's rate that they rated the US presidents, because then if you think about it, too, because of everything, where would you put Reagan? I don't think it would fit inside, like..."

• 2:03:11Speaker 00

  I think he would be great.

• 2:03:12Speaker 05

  Yeah. I think he might, yeah, but, but what I'm saying is...

• 2:03:14Speaker 02

  Leaving him out was, was probably on purpose. Look, you're, this guy, people have a lot of criticisms. There is a certain genius to Trump. And there, one is his ability to distract people from what's really going on. And two, he's just funny, man. He just comes up with funny stuff. Say what you will, but as far as being a politician and being somebody who's, who can gobble up all the airtime, all of it.

• 2:03:38Speaker 05

  Yep. Well, guys, can we go back to the, to the new list, not the 1948 list? There you go. How many did he add other than himself? Just 3 at the bottom.

• 2:03:48Speaker 02

  So funny.

• 2:03:49Speaker 05

  Oh, and Clinton.

• 2:03:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:03:51Speaker 05

  So, there's, there's a story here. He actually respects Clinton. He does. Yeah, I mean... He's basically saying, "Listen, you're not the worst."

• 2:03:58Speaker 00

  He often says, "There's a president that calls me, and we talk a lot," and he's talking about Clinton.

• 2:04:01Speaker 05

  I think there's a respect for Clinton. Now, don't, don't get me started on when he brought the 3 sexual harassment lady charges at the debate. Bill Clinton looked like he was, saw a ghost. But Obama, Biden, and of course, he, he puts your boy Jimmy Carter in there. A lot of this, what we're dealing with in Iran, let's be, let's be frank, is because of Jimmy Carter's fecklessness and his weak approach to Iran. So, Trump is in, basically, dealing with Jimmy Carter's mess right now. That's my say on this.

• 2:04:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, by the way, I found a clip, but it's, it's an hour that we have to go through, so it's...

• 2:04:38Speaker 05

  But we got the time, people.

• 2:04:39Speaker 00

  No, no, we don't have the time, but it's a very, very funny clip.

• 2:04:42Speaker 05

  Alan, cancel your show.

• 2:04:42Speaker 00

  Of them having a conversation about it. All right, let me get to the next story. Next story is, uh, uh, is, what's this guy that was on Jesse Waters? I keep messing up his name. I'm not doing it on purpose.

• 2:04:55Speaker 02

  Abdul Al-Sayyef.

• 2:04:56Speaker 00

  Abdul Al-Sayyef or Al-Sayyed?

• 2:04:59Speaker 05

  I think it's Al-Sayyed. He said, "Don't say my name if you don't know my last name."

• 2:05:03Speaker 00

  He is on Jesse Waters, and they're having a cordial conversation until, all of a sudden, he asks if Jesse Waters is circumcised, which is kind of weird. You don't, like, we don't ask that question every day. You know, it's not like we go around saying, "Vinnie, are you..." We just don't do that, but it happened here.

• 2:05:18Speaker 05

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• 2:07:07Speaker 18

  Look, you know, I remember having great conversations with my conservative friends about right to try legislation. The idea that the government shouldn't tell you what kind of healthcare you should have. I just think the government shouldn't tell you what kind of healthcare you should have, and if you're a minor...

• 2:07:21Speaker 04

  You want to trial on kids?

• 2:07:23Speaker 18

  Now, if you disagree with that, if you disagree with that, if you disagree that healthcare decisions need to be made by a doctor, and their parents, and a patient, then I just, we think we agree to disagree, but you know, you want to put government inside a clinic or a hospital selectively.

• 2:07:41Speaker 18

  I am.

• 2:07:41Speaker 04

  So you think it's okay for a parent to slash his kid's dingaling off? You think that's okay?

• 2:07:48Speaker 18

  I mean, do you, so, do you really want to have this conversation? Are you circumcised?

• 2:07:52Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 2:07:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, but I mean, that's a personal question, doctor.

• 2:07:57Speaker 18

  So you probably should want to move on. You probably should want to move on.

• 2:08:00Speaker 04

  Is circumcision's different than castration?

• 2:08:03Speaker 18

  I think it's a, it's a problem, it's a problem that you think, that you get to decide what happens between a parent, a doctor, and a patient. And I'm just saying that, yes, circumcision is surgery on a kid's dingaling, so if you really want to bring that up, you can.

• 2:08:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, watch the whole thing, it's all this. It was all this. I feel dumber after that conversation.

• 2:08:20Speaker 00

  So how do you feel about it? I'll go, I'll come to you first. How do you feel about it?

• 2:08:22Speaker 02

  I mean, do I think that minors should have life-altering sexual surgery? Absolutely not. Do I think it's actually evil? I do. I feel that strongly about it. Do I think, do I, if somebody wants to be transgender as an adult? Yeah, you want me to call you something? Sure. If you're great at your job, I'll probably hire you. But children, like, hey, hey, listen now. Children's brains are changing.

• 2:08:47Speaker 00

  Let me ask you a question. What do you think are the chances that he 100% believe that does not, you know, that there's no way a young child should be able to transition? What is core, to the core?

• 2:08:58Speaker 02

  You know what I think about this guy, Abdul Al-Sayed? I actually think, I think he's Syrian. I think he's, I think he's a capitalist. I think he's a capitalist. I think he's made a lot of money in the marketplace. I think at the end of the day, he's probably way more moderate than people think. But if you're gonna get the base, you've gotta, you've gotta dance around these issues that the hardcore left, with all that energy, supports. So when you're in politics, he's stuck in this thing. I guarantee the guy, if you ask him, I guarantee in private, he's like, "What? With surgery for minors?" No. He feels very actually normal to me, but he's being cast as this far-left socialist.

• 2:09:39Speaker 00

  Well, let me do this.

• 2:09:39Speaker 02

  He even said, he goes, "I'm a capitalist."

• 2:09:40Speaker 00

  Hassan Piker said that he, this guy right here, is faking moderation just to manipulate people.

• 2:09:48Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 2:09:49Speaker 00

  Okay, this is Hassan Piker. I don't know if you have the story or not, and by the way, him and Piker have taken selfies together, pictures together, their campaign together. They're actually friends, so it's not like it's an enemy. But is this the one? Go, go ahead. Go for it.

• 2:10:00Speaker 21

  There's a lot of people who are already questioning Abdullah Al-Sayed's sincerity on these issues, that will then turn around and say, "Oh, he's, he's, you know, he's moderating his position on Israel, all this stuff." I don't think he is. Okay? I will say this. I am literally the person that is being dangled, and I'm going to tell you once again, he's not moderating on his, his perspective on Israel or anything like that. Okay? His reaction to this has always been very good, which is, look, I deal with people that I don't fully agree with and, and don't fully subscribe to on a daily basis. This is politics. Politics is about addition, not subtraction, right?

• 2:10:43Speaker 21

  It's smart. It's the right way to, it's the right way to deal with it, and then deflect back to the issues, because they are the ones we're engaging in the deflection. Okay?

• 2:10:53Speaker 00

  Okay, so you're saying he said in the beginning that he's just deflecting? Is that what you're saying? Is, is that kind of how you guys process this? He is saying that he's deflecting, Pat, but, and... He's saying he's, and what page is that story on? I'm, I'm gonna say 12 and 13. Page 12 and 13 where he says, "Hassan Piker brags," so this is Daily Wire, "that is faking moderation to scam voters." Okay, so maybe they're exaggerating the words and what he said. "Twitcher's stream is the only person," this, "I am literally the person that is being dangled, and I'm going to tell you once again, he's not moderating on his perspective. The storm erupted after Piker accused American Jewish institutions of making antisemitism worse. Warn that supporting Israel is a house majority. Hakim Jeffries called remarks dangerous and antisemitic.

• 2:11:35Speaker 00

  And a hack who thrives on hate, shock, and awe is what Representative Hillary Schulten said. Al-Sayed issued a statement that 'nobody speaks for his campaign beside me,' but refused to drop Piker, calling his infamous 'America deserve 9/11' remark 'just a dumb statement,' Republican Mike Rogers. Abdul's attempt at distancing himself from the violent and hateful rhetoric is the epitome of what a con man does." Tom, where are you at with this?

• 2:11:59Speaker 04

  I'll tell you where I'm at. And you said something. You said he was appealing to the base. I agree with you, but I like to change the word, "the block."

• 2:12:06Speaker 02

  The block.

• 2:12:07Speaker 04

  Because the big tent has got a bunch of voting blocks in it. And this shows you how the liberal Democrat big tent makes you look so crazy. Because you go on interviews and you say things because you're trying to pander or protect each of the voting blocks you've got. And you've got a bunch of voting blocks that are, that are, that are in the same cardboard box, right? So let's see, we'll put a pit bull puppy in with a couple kittens, probably gonna be fine. That's what's happening. And I, I actually believe what Hassan Piker is saying. He's saying, yeah, he's moderating himself to, to do this or that. I think he's right. I don't think this, this, Al-Sayed, I don't think he's sincere. I do not think we saw that.

• 2:12:52Speaker 04

  It was a weird, look how, look how kind of cumbersome the interview was with Jesse. I, I'm not buying it, Pat. I'm not buying it at all. I think he was pandering to individual blocks, and he is who he has previously said he is, and it shows you the lunacy of the big tent. Because when you're in the big tent, and you're the, you can't go in and say, "I believe in liberty, capitalism, freedom. I'm a Christian, and I believe that life is precious, and that's the foundation on which I stand." You can find all of my feelings about taxes, about federalism, everything growing out of that platform. You can't. When you're in the big tent, you put all these, I got cactus flowers, rocks, and grass. It's like, it doesn't work. It doesn't work at all, and I think that's what we're seeing here.

• 2:13:36Speaker 04

  We're even having trouble decoding it. Imagine, imagine how they feel back with, "How do you do? Well, he hit these talking points, but not those talking points." Pat, can you see how troubling this would be? How would you, as a Democrat strategist, coach him, say, "Yeah, that's great. Do the same thing tomorrow on, um, on Rogan."

• 2:13:54Speaker 03

  So you're saying this dude, who, who, he's Abdul Al-Sayed, he's a Muslim dude, so you mean to tell me he's concealing or denying stuff that he actually believes in? Sounds like something...

• 2:14:04Speaker 04

  I know, you're being sarcastic. That's exactly what I'm saying.

• 2:14:07Speaker 03

  Because, bro, he's a Muslim. The first answer should have been, "No." Do you believe it's good for underage kids to get their genitalia cut off or their breasts cut off? It's a simple no, because I don't know if you guys know this...

• 2:14:20Speaker 02

  Most Muslims think no, right?

• 2:14:22Speaker 03

  Overwhelming, bro, if you, like, in the LGBTQ commu, bro, all these guys that are pushing like the M'dani, Brian, in the Muslim community, you would get freaking outcasts if they don't, if they don't kill you, especially in the Middle East. So this whole, yeah, guess what? You think he'd let his kids be, be, hold on. Any gay kids or chop off their genitalia? Are you absolutely nuts? This is a movement, bro, I'm telling you right now, when they are not the majority, they're the minority, it's, "Yeah, we love gays. M'dani gays." Bro, Muslims in general, Islam in general, they are not welcoming to this freaking attitude and this behavior. Are you, don't, don't be fooled. Okay? They're the minority. When it's the majority, it's a rap, bro, and they all, he's a Sharia law-loving,

• 2:15:07Speaker 03

  all these guys, don't, don't sleep on these people, bro. Don't sleep on them. He easily could have said no, because it's, it is a no. Go ahead.

• 2:15:13Speaker 04

  Remember what Bill Maher said? He said, "It's phases. Kids go through phases. You don't respond to it." He said, "When I was eight years old," you'll like this, Talon, "Bill Maher said, 'I said I wanted to be a pirate. I am so glad my parents didn't send me out for eye removal and peg leg surgery.'"

• 2:15:29Speaker 03

  It's so true. It's so true.

• 2:15:31Speaker 02

  That's actually, you're, it's a joke, but it's actually very, it's very true. I mean, it makes sense.

• 2:15:38Speaker 03

  And how do we get to, my, my question is, and, and I say this, I say this often, and I'm not gonna use evil or, one side, bro, one side is the conservative trying to be Christian. They're trying to live like Christ and try to be better people. The other side is anti-God. Nick, can you name me one outspoken Democrat that loves Jesus Christ and loves the Lord? Go ahead.

• 2:15:59Speaker 02

  I, I just, I, but see...

• 2:16:01Speaker 03

  But, but, but I'm asking you. Can you, Brian?

• 2:16:03Speaker 02

  But this country was founded on the idea that, that that's a private matter between a man and, and his God, right? I don't mind that. I'm just saying, I always worry that with politics, you get a guy like Al-Sayed. I actually don't know how he thinks or what he's thinking. My feeling is the way he's been living his life, he's making money off the capitalist system.

• 2:16:22Speaker 03

  That's his job.

• 2:16:22Speaker 02

  All that stuff. He played football. He feels pretty, he feels, but like, watch this. As a politician, whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, if you came out and you said, "Hey, you know what the problem with some minority community is, is fatherlessness and lack of accountability." Good luck. Your strategist would be like, "You can't tell the truth that way, dude. You gotta, you gotta dance here."

• 2:16:44Speaker 03

  But what does it say about that, but, but, but Brian, what does it say about that side? Because that side, I, I, I, like, for instance, that side kills people. Brian, if they don't agree with you...

• 2:16:53Speaker 00

  You know, you know, you know what it is? This is, this is kind of how I see this. Is Adam Silver, Charles Barkley came out, and, and I, but, but pull up this clip, I'll send it to you. It's on my Twitter, if you go on my Twitter account. And I'll, I'll make these two make sense to you. So Charles Barkley is being asked the following question. Guess what? What do you think Charles Barkley's ever said about lesbians and gays and LGBTQ community? You know what he's always said? He has always defended him. Always. Because I think he has a relative that's, I don't know who it is, but somebody is. To play this clip and look what he says about what the WNBA is doing, and I'm gonna bring this to the Democratic Party. Go for it.

• 2:17:29Speaker 22

  I always support the gay community.

• 2:17:33Speaker 22

  I always support the transgender community. I got numb and love and respect for gay people and transgender people. But under no circumstances do I think men should play against women. Zero. I'm disappointed in Adam Silver and Kathy, the commissioner. All the, first of all, you can't let stupid stuff go out to the internet, which is one of the worst things that ever happened to the world. They should have come out two weeks ago before all this, like, the people looking for attention now. Just saying, but he has a point, though, because Kathy and Adam haven't said, hey, it's in the title, WNBA, we're

• 2:18:14Speaker 22

  not gonna have transgender people in the WNBA, and we're not gonna discuss it again. That's what Adam and Kathy should have done two or three weeks ago before they turned it over to the internet and every fool, idiot and jackass to have an opinion on. Adam, Adam should come out and Kathy, I like both of them a lot. Women can all, there's no transgender people going to play in WNBA. If you don't like it, kick rocks. And we're not gonna discuss it.

• 2:18:42Speaker 00

  Okay. He's a Democrat. This is not, this is not a guy that's a, so.

• 2:18:48Speaker 02

  What he's saying is not crazy.

• 2:18:49Speaker 00

  That's what I'm saying to you. So, so check this out. If the WNBA continues bullshitting around and doing this, I believe they're hiding that men competed in WNBA, but that's my opinion. I believe that is the reason why they're delaying.

• 2:19:02Speaker 02

  That's a heavy.

• 2:19:03Speaker 00

  I've been saying this for the last few months. I've been saying this for a minute. Yes. I believe men have competed and for them to come out, they have to wait for certain men to retire or leave so they can do it quietly and not address it. Because if, if it's so common sense that you would have already done it six months, 12 months ago. Okay? I, I, that's what I believe. I could be wrong, but that's what I believe. This simple question that you can't answer, do you believe kids should be able to choose to transition? If Democrats can't answer that question, that is gonna hurt them in 2028. General election, not primary, in the general election, because someone in the debate is gonna ask AOC that question, and what is she gonna do? Is she gonna fumble? Someone's gonna ask that question. How are you gonna answer that? The Republicans are gonna say

• 2:19:48Speaker 00

  what? I don't believe men belong in women's sports. I don't believe any puberty blockers or gender transition before you're 18 years old. Whatever you do with your body when you're an adult, it's up to you. Any, that's common sense. We're not saying, don't be a transgender, don't be gay. No, no. After adult, you're an adult, make your decision. Vote for whoever you want. Do your thing. So, I think this is gonna hurt the Democratic Party, but when you're dealing in small, little markets like this that you're competing for, it probably won't. I think it is in the general side. Adam, final thoughts and then we'll move on.

• 2:20:18Speaker 05

  I, I have an opinion on the Democratic Party. This is why they're moving so far left. They are refusing to come to the middle on social issues, and that's why they're going so hard on economic issues. They're basically saying, wealth tax, tax more, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, to basically hide the ball, no pun intended, from the social issues that they are not willing to compromise on. They are not willing to say that men should not play in women's sports. They're not willing to do it.

• 2:20:44Speaker 02

  It's the weirdest hill to die on.

• 2:20:45Speaker 05

  They're, they're gonna die on that hill, and because they're unwilling to move there, they say, all right, let's go, just go further left on the economy, and let's see how that works. But to me, this guy, El Sayed, I, I, I was speculating this, and I, and I did some research, I was like, who are the famous Arab or Muslim Republicans? And then I was like, why are there none? That is weird.

• 2:21:10Speaker 00

  They're great, great.

• 2:21:11Speaker 02

  Because they, they seem like they would be more conservative and more on the Republican side, which I think, actually, I think a lot of them are. Am I wrong?

• 2:21:18Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 2:21:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I think El Sayed feels like he's.

• 2:21:22Speaker 05

  Some guy from Egypt who advocates for Sharia law, doesn't condemn it, is like, you're telling me that dude is cool with trans and men playing in women's sports?

• 2:21:32Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying.

• 2:21:33Speaker 05

  And the LGBT and the abortion?

• 2:21:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, he feels like a closet conservative.

• 2:21:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's almost like when they get here to America, they say, all right, we have to pretend to be something we're not, and we have to hijack the Democratic Party, we're gonna become part of the DSA, and we're just gonna get the power. It's almost like this is some sort of plan. Because if you're telling me this guy was in Egypt, respect to the Arabs, respect to the Muslims, no disrespect, I doubt there's a big LGBTQ community going on in Cairo right now. I don't think that's happening. But in America, no, but that's your family roots. To me, I, I think they're playing a part, and I, I just don't see Ilhan Omar doing abortions, which I'll have you get them.

• 2:22:16Speaker 00

  I'm gonna, I'm gonna play this last clip and then we'll wrap up. So here's Andre 3000 from OutKast, whom I love. He's being asked about rapping, and does it get to a point where you're too old to rap? And he says something that is so flipping funny, where you're like, maybe this guy's got a point. Okay, go for it.

• 2:22:34Speaker 23

  Like even now, like, people think, oh, man, he's just sitting, sitting on raps, or like, he's just holding or holding these raps hostage. Like, I ain't got no raps like that. Like, it's, it's, it actually feels, sometimes it feels inauthentic for me to rap, because I, I don't have anything to talk about in that way. Like, I'm 48 years old, and not, not to say that age is a thing that dictates what you rap about, but in a, in a way it does. And like, things that happen in my life, like, what are you talking, like, I gotta go get a, a colonoscopy? Like, what are you rapping about? You know what I mean? Like, my eyesight, my eyesight is going bad.

• 2:23:13Speaker 02

  That's so funny. He's so great, and this is so true. It's so true. I was, I got these, somebody gave me these jeans and they had a hole in them, they were stylish. I go, I'm too old, I'm not wearing, I'm not wearing cool jeans, bro. I'm wearing reg, I'm wearing collared shirts now.

• 2:23:28Speaker 03

  But see, but you know what? I guarantee you, he could make a sick album just on that, just on fatherhood, just on the awkwardness.

• 2:23:36Speaker 02

  He's brilliant.

• 2:23:36Speaker 03

  The colonoscopy.

• 2:23:37Speaker 02

  Brilliant.

• 2:23:38Speaker 03

  That would be so, because he could do it. If there's anybody that could do it, it would be him.

• 2:23:41Speaker 02

  That's great.

• 2:23:42Speaker 05

  Well, you know who didn't get the memo is Uncle Snoop, because Snoop's out there.

• 2:23:46Speaker 03

  Well, he's still smoking weed.

• 2:23:47Speaker 05

  Still doing his thing.

• 2:23:48Speaker 02

  He hasn't, he hasn't written a rap song in 30 years, though.

• 2:23:51Speaker 03

  He's just doing the same.

• 2:23:51Speaker 05

  But he's still getting out there doing his hits.

• 2:23:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:23:53Speaker 05

  By the way, it was just the 30 year anniversary of the, their first album, A.T. Eliens, this one right here, 30 years ago. I remember listening to that in high school.

• 2:24:04Speaker 00

  Me and you, your mama and your cousin, too. Rolling down the strip, I'm ball, coming up slamming Cadillac dope.

• 2:24:13Speaker 05

  I met this dude along the way, but anyway, but I could see, he's so talented, he's so good. Maybe he don't do rap no more. Do, do the blues, do some jazz. Don't just hang him up. You're that good. I think Big Boy is, is, is partner in crime. I think he's still out there doing his thing. All right, all right, all right, all right.

• 2:24:31Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 2:24:32Speaker 02

  Every, every rapper I've ever worked with, I've worked with some really famous, you know, I did a movie with Ice Cube, and the, the rappers that have been around for a long time, whether it was like Queen Latifah, or Ice T, or Ice.

• 2:24:43Speaker 05

  They all become actors.

• 2:24:44Speaker 02

  It, no, not just that. One of the things, the secret with them, and by the way, same thing with Lil Wayne, if you actually, if you're around them, you know that they were all straight A students? They're all goody two shoes. They're all super smart, super disciplined. It's the ones that have a one hit and they get in.

• 2:25:01Speaker 00

  They disappear.

• 2:25:02Speaker 02

  These guys are business.

• 2:25:04Speaker 03

  Well, they're creative off the top. It's crazy. Do you know how talented you have to be to freestyle and do stuff like that?

• 2:25:08Speaker 02

  Get it. Forget it.

• 2:25:09Speaker 03

  Uh, anyway.

• 2:25:10Speaker 00

  You know, you know, you know who else said this? 50 Cent said the same thing as well. He says, you're not supposed to be the hottest rapper at 60. Did you guys see this? He says, you're not supposed to be the hottest rapper at 60. I just sent you guys the clip if you want to go to it.

• 2:25:25Speaker 05

  It's a young man's game.

• 2:25:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I mean, look, I mean, do you remember when his song was?

• 2:25:30Speaker 05

  You can find me in the club, bottle of bourbon.

• 2:25:33Speaker 00

  Like, when that came out, it's like, I don't care where you were.

• 2:25:38Speaker 03

  ICD player.

• 2:25:39Speaker 00

  They were playing at weddings.

• 2:25:40Speaker 03

  What year was that?

• 2:25:41Speaker 02

  After being shot nine times. Count them. Nine times. And said when he's in the back of that cab, by the way, gets in the back of a cab to go to the hospital, like a man. Like a man. Ambulance, ambulance.

• 2:25:54Speaker 00

  Did you ever?

• 2:25:55Speaker 02

  I'm not tipping you. And he said, I bled out all my fear in the back of that cab.

• 2:26:00Speaker 00

  Have you ever read the, the book, The 50th Law by Robert Greene and 50 Cent?

• 2:26:03Speaker 02

  I've never read that, but I, I've interviewed.

• 2:26:05Speaker 00

  So, he, he explains that one of the marketing tactics they did, which was phenomenal, he's about to drop an album, and he pays one of his guys to just come and shoot up the recording studio. News finds out saying, they don't want me to release my album because they know it's very hard. And that becomes like, people were lining up for the album to come out. Yeah, this guy is a genius and a half. Go for it.

• 2:26:33Speaker 24

  Only giving us music as themes and intros. Yeah, I'm not trying to be in the way. See, look, hip hop culture is connected to youth culture. You are not supposed to be the hottest in nothing at 60.

• 2:26:45Speaker 24

  Fuck that, man. You can still do your shit. You can still sing and that's love music. It don't never.

• 2:26:51Speaker 25

  But you've never felt like you still have one more album in you?

• 2:26:54Speaker 24

  No, I still got love for music. I'm never gonna lose that. I'm always wanna do something. And those are like entries. Look, this is me putting a little piece or tab or something in there for them to hear. That I still do it, that I still got it. But you ain't giving us. I don't need it. I can't come. I know you bust ass right now. Put them niggas out and I do the shit from 03 and fuck them up right now.

• 2:27:14Speaker 05

  From 03?

• 2:27:15Speaker 24

  Right now.

• 2:27:17Speaker 05

  Twenty years later. It's so true, though. Well, Tom, Tom, I know you're in great shape. You're in your 60s. Does this dissuade you from wanting to become a professional rapper? I know you got that.

• 2:27:26Speaker 04

  Good question.

• 2:27:27Speaker 05

  I know you got some lyrics.

• 2:27:28Speaker 04

  Good question. I've been quiet here for a while. This is not just about rap music. What they're talking about is youth and yearning and having a message and things. And when you go and you take a look like people like Neil Young, you know, and he was singing about Vietnam and all the things that go with that. When you go through the arc into the arc of success, it's hard to be the credible counterculture poet, whether it's rock and roll or folk and Neil Young and Joni Mitchell going way back, or hip hop. I mean, you go and you take a look at like the Rolling Stones now. They're 80 years old with organ replacements, still going on tour.

• 2:28:03Speaker 05

  But they can still do it at that point.

• 2:28:05Speaker 04

  No, they can do it, but what are they doing? They're doing the old stuff. All the new stuff sounds like old stuff and there's nothing new about it. That's the point.

• 2:28:13Speaker 05

  Focus on the hip hop for a second. I know you got some skills.

• 2:28:16Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:28:16Speaker 05

  I'm not, come on.

• 2:28:17Speaker 00

  By the way, let me tell you. One of the greatest, one of the greatest openings to a song. That, that, can you pull up the clip I just sent you? I cannot tell you during that time, they made this guy so famous because this, this, this reverend that comes out, who says, "We're not against rap, we're not against rappers." Bone Thugs-N-Harmony took this.

• 2:28:39Speaker 05

  Oh, good.

• 2:28:40Speaker 00

  And then, go ahead, press play.

• 2:28:42Speaker 26

  We're not against rap.

• 2:28:43Speaker 00

  What a perfect voice.

• 2:28:44Speaker 26

  We're not against rappers. But we are against those thugs.

• 2:28:49Speaker 00

  Do you know what song this is?

• 2:28:50Speaker 26

  Who disgrace our community.

• 2:28:52Speaker 00

  It's the Thug is Rugged. They started it off, go back to the beginning again. The song starts with this guy. You don't, we can't play the song. Go back to it, go back to it. No, no, oh, you gotta hear the whole thing. Go back to the beginning.

• 2:29:07Speaker 26

  But we are against those thugs.

• 2:29:12Speaker 26

  We're not against rap.

• 2:29:13Speaker 05

  I didn't realize this.

• 2:29:14Speaker 26

  We're not against rappers.

• 2:29:16Speaker 00

  Oh, this is a real.

• 2:29:16Speaker 26

  But we are against those thugs.

• 2:29:19Speaker 00

  They opened the flipping song with this.

• 2:29:23Speaker 05

  Shout out to Busy Bone and Crazy Bone and Bone Thugs-N-Harmony.

• 2:29:26Speaker 00

  The moment we, listen, the moment we get off.

• 2:29:29Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 2:29:30Speaker 00

  I'm gonna play this.

• 2:29:30Speaker 05

  How do you not know this song? I know the song. I didn't know that that was. Cleveland East 99 Eternal. My bad. You know your rap, huh? I'm a hip hop. My first job at a college. Well, NBA and rap.

• 2:29:39Speaker 00

  George hip hop.

• 2:29:40Speaker 05

  Comedy.

• 2:29:41Speaker 00

  Listen to Yanni all the time. Don't, don't get him, let him fool you. He's a Yanni guy, old school Yanni.

• 2:29:46Speaker 05

  He's got a Yanni tattoo on his back. Yes. You know what? I'm gonna get you a garshuk. I got you.

• 2:29:51Speaker 04

  You know, it's just hip hop and everything. I mean, I always wonder why we take from our women, where we came from our women, and they hate on their women. I just don't understand.

• 2:29:58Speaker 05

  Thank you, Tupac. Respect you. All right, hop. The one, the one.

• 2:30:03Speaker 04

  Listen, the one.

• 2:30:04Speaker 05

  Take from our women and make with our women. Hey, Tom, I don't know if you know this. The blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice.

• 2:30:11Speaker 04

  Oh, damn.

• 2:30:12Speaker 00

  I don't know. I'm, uh.

• 2:30:14Speaker 04

  The one artistic medium that's exempt from age is standup comedy, ladies and gentlemen. So that's all I have to say.

• 2:30:20Speaker 00

  And where you at? Where you at?

• 2:30:22Speaker 04

  Amy Improv this weekend, baby. Tonight, tomorrow and Sunday.

• 2:30:26Speaker 05

  Three days?

• 2:30:26Speaker 00

  Tonight, tomorrow and Sunday.

• 2:30:28Speaker 04

  Yeah. Vinnie, you come by.

• 2:30:29Speaker 00

  Put the link below.

• 2:30:30Speaker 05

  There he is.

• 2:30:30Speaker 00

  Put the link below for the schedule. Put it in the chat, put it in the description. Go support the man in town. Funny as hell. Like I said at the beginning, top five scenes in movies that I will watch over and over again. He was one of them. And that's the scene when they go to, "You motherfucker."

• 2:30:50Speaker 24

  You don't remember me? Andy? I thought this guy was gonna eat my dick.

• 2:30:53Speaker 04

  Alan, look.

• 2:30:56Speaker 04

  Vinnie, look at this. Realtors and comedians always using the 10-year-old picture.

• 2:31:00Speaker 05

  I know, dude. I know. I gotta get better. I gotta get better.

• 2:31:04Speaker 00

  All right, gang. Uh, have a great weekend. By the way, we're not doing podcasts on Monday, right? No podcasts on Monday?

• 2:31:09Speaker 05

  I don't think so.

• 2:31:09Speaker 00

  We don't have a podcast on, I don't, I don't know if we are. But I, are we doing it or no? Thumbs up or thumbs down? We're not. No podcasts on Monday.

• 2:31:16Speaker 05

  I want FLB loafers, man. I want some of these loafers.

• 2:31:18Speaker 00

  We're gonna get it for you. We're gonna get it.

• 2:31:19Speaker 05

  Oh, this Monday?

• 2:31:20Speaker 00

  Not, no podcast Monday. We will be in Las Vegas and we look forward to seeing all of you guys. But I do think we come back on Friday. But we do have quite a few interviews. Senator Ted Cruz is gonna come out. Tom, uh, Tony Robbins is gonna come out. By the way, that's, this Tony Robbins interview, as good as the first one was, this is 10 times better than the first one. Then we have Samu Tbilgravano, and I think we got a couple other interviews. I forgot that's still coming out, right? That we have in the, in the hopper. Anyways, take care, everybody. Have a great weekend. Bye-bye, bye-bye.

• 2:32:07Speaker 06

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