Trump $2K Tariff Dividend, 50 Year Mortgage, Jan 6th Pipe Bomber + Shutdown Over? | PBD Podcast 681

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick unpack Trump’s proposed $2,000 tariff-dividend payout, the GOP’s looming 2028 presidential pick, the showdown between the New York Police Department and Zohran Mamdani, and whether the federal government shutdown is finally over. ------ 🇺🇸 GET THE VT VETERANS COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4oyjKtR 📕 REGISTER FOR BPW 2025 - FRIDAY, DECEMBER 12TH 2025: https://bit.ly/3IU2YWx Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:30Speaker 01

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• 1:08Speaker 02

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright? My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 1:17Speaker 02

  My son's right there.

• 1:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:25Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. So, a lot going on, folks. Government shut down apparently eight senators on the Democratic side coming out agreeing to the same exact thing that Chuck would have agreed to before. And Scott Jennings says, I think this was all about the mid, this was all about the special elections, just to show strength and use this as a story to win a couple of those elections. And then now they're going to go back and do the same thing. It was just a bunch of theater. And President Trump was at the Washington Redskins game. And while he's at the Redskins game, and they're doing their thing, you know, there was some boom going on. And we're going to, we're going to show that boom and stuff that took place at the Redskins game. Congrats to the Dolphins. They beat the Bills, which was a miracle. We were there last night.

• 2:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Miracle. That was that was full on miracle. I don't know what happened, but good for them. Uh, let me go through a couple of the stories for you guys that, uh, hope you guys had a good weekend. By the way, we started, you're late. What are you doing? Wake up. This entire time we've been here, where have you been? You know what I'm saying? This guy shows up once on time and we get to go early and Miami Trump proposes radical healthcare shakeup that would bypass insurers and hand cash directly to who? To you, to make a decision on what you want to do with your health insurance. Housing director confirms, ready for this one? This is big. Administration working on not a 30 year loan, not a 40 year loan. They want to get a 50.

• 2:55Patrick Bet-David?

  50. 50 year mortgage after Trump hint, okay? 50 year mortgage loan. Cornell to pay $60 million to settle Trump's administration probe. Trump dismisses affordability concerns insists prices are going down. Uh, why lower mortgage rates aren't enough to make homes affordable in charts? Whopping wealth of Nancy Pelosi under scrutiny as it revealed she has earned $130 million in stock profits. Okay, while in Congress, 17,000% rate of return. The GOAT, okay? Of all time. Nancy Pelosi made 130 million. Yeah. She shared that with America, right? Of course she did. At the, at the, So social security is just fine, right?

• 3:37Patrick Bet-David?

  At Rolex, at the Patek store, at the Vently store, yes. Vans is the front runner for 2028. Rubio privately confides up to 20% of flights could be canceled in coming weeks if government shutdown, shutdown drags on as airports endure first day of crippling reductions. NYPD already loses officers with morale plunging as anti-cop Zohran Mamdani prepares to take reins. Top New York City Realtor fired for comparing Mamdani to Hitler.

• 4:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Predicting City Hall will play Muslim calls to prayer.

• 4:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, you can only compare Trump to Hitler. That's a law.

• 4:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15 years old. Tech job flee California has H1B visa crime tax and automation drive workers out. Catherine Herridge inks deal for investigative video series with LA Times. Kanye West meets with Adam's friends to apologize for their past remarks. Listen, that's that one right there. And we got a couple of other things here. Senate breaks Democratic filibuster and key vote toward opening the government. Trump says he'll send $2,000 tariff dividend to all except high income people.

• 5:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Stimulus check, Tom, with that jacket, that means you won't be getting it. Tom, you're not getting any. He has to pay $2,000. Tom's like Stefano Ritchie addict. He needs to go to SA meetings. Yo, SA, yeah. He's itching for like a new tie. Stefano Anonymous. I'm a Stefano.

• 5:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Stefano. If they have one, I'm joining.

• 5:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so Richie, I'm wearing one as well today, by the way. We were just with them this past week. We bought a bunch of guys. Vinnie and I are wearing Zara and H and M if you guys need to use a discount code. The store. Vinnie takes a jacket, has my son wear it. My son walks up to me. Were you wearing it or was he wearing it? No, I gave it to Tico. He's walking up to me. He says, how much you think this is? And the lady's panicking in the back. Vinnie takes a picture of it. This is why it's for the point 001%. Sir, don't take that off the mannequin. The jacket was $134,000. Let me say it again, 134,150. We got to add that 150, but the jacket was insane. Stefano Ritchie, okay.

• 6:03Patrick Bet-David?

  So, next, House Democrats fears that their Senate colleagues are caving on shutdown, unconditional surrender. Are stimulus checks being sent out in 2025? Latest news on claims. Donald Trump's new city destroying nuclear missile is spotted for the first time as plane spotter photographs it on hush-hush test flight. The pipe bomber story doesn't add up. Vinnie's gonna talk about that one. Newsom gives Trump a new nickname after president appears to nod off during White House announcement. Did he really? He nodded off during White House announcement? Who did? President Trump? I didn't see it. Rob, is that true or no, Rob?

• 6:41Speaker 05

  It looked like his eyes were shut. I don't know if he was asleep.

• 6:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. BBC expected to apologize after using doctored footage of Trump's January 6 speech in documentary report. They apologize? You think an apology's gonna be plenty? You don't think a lawsuit might be?

• 6:57Tom Ellsworth?

  And their lead editor, just, this just in, their lead editor resigned.

• 7:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's lead editor?

• 7:02Tom Ellsworth?

  The BBC. They apologize, yeah, we doctored it.

• 7:05Patrick Bet-David?

  As if that's gonna stop a lawsuit.

• 7:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, he quit?

• 7:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 7:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Suddenly.

• 7:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. All right, so that's what's going on, and we got a few other stories we'll get into with a couple clips to show you guys. However, you know what tomorrow is? Tomorrow's Veterans Day. And what we wanna do for the veterans who are watching this, we have a whole new series of merch for veterans. Rob, if you can zoom in into some of these guys here, whether you're Army, we got an Army Future Looks Bright, we got, go a little bit lower, Rob, if you could, we got those hats with the Velcro, that, that right there, the Army Future Looks Bright patch is insane, go lower, Rob, you know, Air Force, Navy, keep going, keep going, keep going, we got those green hats, those green hats, they won't last long. Every time we have those, they disappear. The one on the right, it's absolutely sick, on the front of it, it says Future Looks Bright, US Armed Forces, Marines, keep going.

• 7:56Patrick Bet-David?

  And then you have the USA hat, that's another one. It's one of our most, I think it's the top five most reviewed hats of all time. There you have right there, the USA with the, what do you call it? Camouflage. Camouflage on there. Armed Forces in the middle with the dog tag, sick shirt. Keep going lower, Rob, keep going lower. And you got the Army Greens, the hats in the middle, and then go to the next one, that Angry Patriot shirt to the right. Nice. You got a bunch of stuff here. And here's what it is. Go to VTmerch.com, place your order, use the code VETERAN for discount, VETERAN for discount, and 10% of every purchase made will go to charities that are related to folks who are serving. And we have a handful

• 8:40Patrick Bet-David?

  of them that we're working with. Trust me, we're very selective on who, which one then we go through. 10% of whatever purchase is made will go to different charities out there. And if you use the code VETERAN, you'll get a 10% discount as well. Some of those items are, you know, limited supply that we ordered, so be sure to go out there and place the order for yourself. And if it's not you, you have a friend that went to the Air Force, the Army, the Marines, the Navy, you know, gift them something from this that watches the podcast. Again, go to VTmerch.com, place your order using the discount VETERAN. Having said that, let's get right into it. All right. Rob, what videos do we have on the government shutdown? What videos do you have on the government shutdown? Because there's a bunch of different

• 9:22Patrick Bet-David?

  things going on right now in the government shutdown. We hear the video that comes out, the story saying up to 20% of flights can be canceled in coming weeks if the government shutdown drags on as airports endure first day of crippling reductions. You hear pilots talking about a bunch of different things. You hear a pilot saying, hey, you know, we have folks that are working right now that are not getting paid, but they're showing up today, et cetera, et cetera. And there was a rare Saturday Senate session that ends with few signs of shutdown progress. So as of right now, Rob, the latest thing we know is what? The fact that eight senators have agreed. Is that the, is that the clip right there, Rob? Okay, there we go. Can you go back to it? Yep. So the government shutdown, October 1st. On November 9th, the United States advanced

• 10:05Patrick Bet-David?

  a funding measure by 60-40 vote. This is the first major bipartisan movement towards reopening the government. The measure would extend federal funding through January 30th, 2026. For some agencies, attach three full year appropriation bill, agriculture, veterans affairs, and legislative branch as part of the broader package. Guarantee of future vote in December on Affordable Care Act, health insurance tax credit issues, which has been a key sticking point. And it's important to know this, that with the Obamacare, Trump wants to give you the credit. He wants you to make a decision what you want to do with it, because all the promises Obama made that you're not, you're gonna be able to keep your doctor, it's not gonna be costing you anything, taxes will go up.

• 10:47Patrick Bet-David?

  We all know Obama lied on every one of those issues, and that's proven by the left and the right. So many federal functions that have been severely disrupted, the 900,000 federal employees that have been working without pay, SNAP, which is impacting a lot of people's lives, especially immigrants that are here taking advantage of it, you know, who, some of them, that they're relying on you, the hardworking people, to take care of them. But Tom, where are we at with this?

• 11:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, the Senate voted. You had to break the filibuster, and you'd have 60 votes. And what the Senate did, they haven't ended the government shutdown, but they have put together something, and they're sending it back to the House, and the House is all upset. However, this should be good news. But check this out. Look at the eight people that voted with the Republicans. Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada, Jackie Rosen of Nevada. Wait a minute, wait a minute, both Nevada senators voted. Very interesting. And we know Nevada was razor thin, you know, and Trump got traction, traction there, was, it used to be blue, blue, blue, but the election there. Also, look at this, New Hampshire, Gene Shaheen and Maggie Hassan, both senators from

• 11:59Tom Ellsworth?

  New Hampshire, went with them. And this guy, I'm really proud of this guy, Dick Durbin of Illinois, went with the Republicans to break this, and then Tim Kaine of Virginia, Tim Kaine was Hillary's VP candidate. And then, of course, the guy we expected for the last three months to be at the Republicans, John Fetterman. So those were the eight that went, and they went with it. What's interesting, if you look at it, I believe the Republicans got about 80% of what they wanted in the Senate bill, whereas the Democrats got about 20%. For instance, Dick Durbin came across when he said that Trump That what they would put in there and John Thune gets credit for this. Lonely, not very charismatic, just very effective and just a good person.

• 12:43Tom Ellsworth?

  John Thune, apparently.

• 12:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Senate Majority Leader, you're talking about?

• 12:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep, got everybody together, but you know, John Thune has never been like the Schumer, the Pelosi, the camera guy. He's always just kind of just there working. And he, and he got it done, but here's what he gave back to Durbin. He said, I'll tell you what, this is what we'll put in. All the federal workers that were fired during the shutdown, not the ones that were fired during those at the beginning, when we started thinning things out. But all the ones that were fired during the shutdown will get their jobs back. And there will be a provision to give them some back pay, which shouldn't be huge in American people, because that back pay thing is really just kind of started. You know, it's not, well, some had started before, but it's not cataclysmic. It is to

• 13:30Tom Ellsworth?

  those people, but in terms of dollars to the US taxpayer, you know, it's manageable. So he gave that back and Durbin said, okay, Thune, I'm in. And they went in. And so it was very sensible, but what's really important, I'll go back, and these are my estimates, Pat, I think the Republicans got about 80% of what they wanted. Specifically, they didn't want the Obamacare subsidies just to roll over as this trillion dollar wave in the American people. They got that. They got, they got what we wanted.

• 13:59Patrick Bet-David?

  That's good.

• 14:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Republicans got 80%, I think the Dems got 20%, and people like Dick Durbin got the, uh, unionized federal workers get their jobs back, and so they got their 60%.

• 14:09Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's a tweet, "No more money, hundreds of billions of dollars to the Democratic supported insurance companies for really bad Obamacare. The money must now go directly to the people talking, uh, taking the, uh, fat cat insurance companies out of the corrupt system of healthcare. The people can buy their own much better policy, much less money, saving for themselves an absolute fortune. President Donald J. Trump." And while this is going on, and while this is going on, Scott Jennings, Rob, can you pull up the Scott Jennings clip where he's talking to Abby? And on that clip, uh, he, do you know which one I'm talking about? I put it, I may have put it in the, uh, in the PBD podcast, if you want to, if you want to look for it. And he's saying, "Look, you know, I mean, the reality of it is, you guys got what you wanted, right?

• 14:54Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you were able to..."

• 14:57Patrick Bet-David?

  You were able to use this as for the election. Uh, yeah, I think, yeah, there you go. You were able to use this for the election, the special elections that was taking place. And watch how she answers this. Look at this. Go ahead, Rob.

• 15:09Speaker 06

  Republicans going to use leverage in their fight with Democrats when the Democrats are actually the ones with the upper hand when in the eyes of voters.

• 15:18Speaker 07

  Oh, I'm sure Democrats will be more than happy to open the government now. The election's over. I mean, I mean, part of the reason they shut it down was to get through tonight.

• 15:26Speaker 06

  I mean, I just talked to Adam Schiff. He was like, hold the line. AOC, she said, hold the line. Look, I don't see, what is the incentive for Democrats to back down when voters are basically saying Trump's not doing enough, it's the Republicans' fault? And then they basically handed the keys in the last elec-, in this past election to the Democrats. It's, where's the leverage?

• 15:49Speaker 07

  Again, these are blue states electing Democrats, not a shock. Democrats clearly wanted this shutdown to get through Election Day. I do think they are facing pressure from their internal coalitions, the unions, the air traffic controllers, the government employee unions are desperate to get the government back open. They're feeling a little bit of internal heat, but again, the election's now over. I'm sure tomorrow morning, phones will start ringing and it'll be open soon enough. This was a political shutdown and that's, that's what they did and now we're through the election.

• 16:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So now, by the way, while this is, this is going on, you know, Rob, Adam, I'm gonna come to you. I do want to show something because what he said right there is, these were all blue states, these were, not this one, Rob, the other one, the one with the link, not, not the one that goes to X, but the one that goes to YouTube.

• 16:34Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 16:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, that, that is showing what happens when they lose the special election, yeah. And then if you don't mind, Rob, go fast forward to, uh, go, keep going, keep going, keep going, go from right there, go back a little bit, go back a little, when that starts, play it from right, uh, right there. Okay, so watch this. So now, is there any patterns to show what this means to midterms that's gonna come up in a year? And watch what Anton says here. And by the way, whether you like Anton or not, he is fair, okay, when he's going through some of these numbers. So you can't just like him when the polls are good for you and then hate him when they're not. Watch this one here.

• 17:11Speaker 08

  do well. I mean, just take a look at the House special elections. Take a look here, the 2025 House special elections. Look at those in which Democrats outran Kamala Harris. There have been five House special elections so far this year. In every single one of them, across the board. Virginia, Texas 18, that was on Tuesday night. Florida 6, Florida 1, Arizona 7. From blue districts like Arizona 7 to red districts like Florida 1 and 6. What we are seeing are clear shifts towards the Democratic candidates. In all five of them, and we're talking about shifts on average, Kate Baldwin, of about or north of 15 percentage points from the 2024 presidential baseline. That just says how much they couldn't stand Harris.

• 17:53Speaker 08

  That we saw in both Virginia and New Jersey on Tuesday night. She gonna throw that coffee?

• 17:58Speaker 09

  A million things can happen in the year until the midterms. With that caveat, what are you seeing?

• 18:05Speaker 08

  A year is a very long period of time, but you know, we've spoken about this. I like going through history. What do these? Watch this.

• 18:12Speaker 02

  Watch what magnesium does to your bowels. Robert, is this a joke? Magnetium guy?

• 18:17Speaker 08

  Stop it. Your elections usually forecast for the year ahead for the midterm elections. Well, I mean, we take a look at the House special elections, right? If a party outperforms in House special elections, five out of five times, what do we see? They have gone on to win the US House the following midterm. Every single time since the 2005, 2006 cycle. So when you see, of course, that the Democrats are outperforming in all of them, historically speaking, that means they go on to win the US House of Representatives in the following midterm. And then, yes, New York, New Jersey, Virginia. Yes, these are blue cities in New York City. Yes, the blue states in Virginia and New Jersey. But historically speaking, when you sweep all three, you go back since the FDR administration. Tom, do you agree with him?

• 19:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, yeah, history is, history is absolutely, he is accurately recounting history. And what happens is the special elections here usually are not about the candidates. If you go deeper into it, and I know exactly what he's talking about, and, and he is faithfully showing it without spin, so hats off to Mr. Enton. The issue is, there's usually... An overriding issue that goes beyond the candidates, because all those candidates are different, yet five out of five races move, makes sense? Yeah. So wow, is this a candidate? So it also shows that the ballot, down ballot effect by Kamala Harris was actually negative, not positive. She had a negative impact on the down ballot races. She didn't help it at all. It's like, stay out of my state, I'm running for myself, I don't need your help, I don't

• 19:45Tom Ellsworth?

  want you here. Well, guess what? The issue right now, the number one issue, when you talk to all the core voters, and Enton has talked about it, I've seen polls on it, is affordability. That's the word. It's James Carville all over again. The core Americans is on affordability, and the mainstream media really did a, it's terrible, it's capricious, but they did a pretty good job of pushing economic down, economic down, economic down, out there on it, on the American people and the American voter, and, and, and, you've got these angry women under 40. Adams talked about it, I've talked about it, the polls have talked about it. So those are the three things.

• 20:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Affordability is the top issue, the movement of basically angry women under 40, and then you've got the mainstream media that wouldn't get off economic topics. Got it. The ghost of James Carville comes back. It's the economy, stupid.

• 20:42Adam Sosnick?

  So, this whole government shutdown thing, to me, as we say, James Carville and the economy, to me, I don't even call it a government shutdown, I call it a government showdown. Because I feel like we've seen this, it's that Groundhog Day with our tax dollars. Every year, it's just every time they do these government showdowns. It's the same thing, it's theater, it's politics, they waited till Tuesday elections were done, and all it ends up being is a short-term fix. I'm so sick of these short-term fixes. Every year, it's the same movies, showdown time, showdown time, continuing resolution time, what are we gonna do, filibuster time? And it's actually just getting annoying at this point. Can we get a long-term solution?

• 21:25Adam Sosnick?

  So we stopped doing this every single year. We know this movie. We've seen it every single time. We know what, the government's not gonna shut down forever. And how many lives are affected when it shut down for 40 days? It only started moving the needle after the election was over, one, and all of a sudden, everyday people are getting affected because their flights are getting canceled. So unless it affects people, the politicians have no problem basically playing chicken with your tax dollars. Once you start saying, dude, I just got my flight canceled. Hey buddy, I'm gonna miss a meeting. Can we get this thing figured out? That's when they'll start moving. Until then, they don't really give a crap. Cause they're getting paid.

• 22:04Speaker 11

  Of course they are.

• 22:05Adam Sosnick?

  Politicians are getting paid, but the everyday worker isn't getting paid.

• 22:09Speaker 11

  The old bill compared to the new bill is nothing. And the fact that I want Democrat voters to understand that your missed paychecks, your flights, your SNAP and all that, it's because the left was using it as leverage so they look good during their runs with Virginia and all that nonsense. And even The Hill did a piece that said, "Democrat Senators Fear Getting Hammered After No Kings For Ending Government Shutdown." They have nothing. You know, just like remember with the border bill, Tom? They were like, no, we're not gonna give you what you want unless you give tril- you know, billions of dollars to Ukraine, billions of dollars here, billions of dollars to like, uh, Israel and all these places. And it's like, bro, like what? I don't like this hostage stuff. I'm like, I agree with you 100%. It's actually hostage negotiation. But Tom, right now, the Republicans have

• 22:54Speaker 11

  the House and the Senate. I don't feel like they're doing enough to not only go after everybody that's been screwing Trump and screwing us for the past, you know, eight years. They're not doing enough to put stuff in place, Tom, that's gonna last. You know what I mean? He makes a great point. Every year, this is gonna change. Every year, they're gonna keep doing the same thing.

• 23:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, this is our government, but I think you have to remember, the fog of what happened in the election is fogging over all the winds. Look at the winds that have been happening on international trade deals. Look at the winds that have been happening on rare earth minerals. Look at the winds that have been happening on energy, drill baby drill, and the cost of oil and heating oil. When the Northeast Democrat voters have lower cost heating oil this winter, I hope they remember who made that happen. I hope they remember that that was President Trump keeping his promise to drill baby drill, which translates to your fuel tank, to your airline ticket cost, and to your heating oil. I think all these winds are getting covered by the fog, and I think the administration needs to do a PR tour reminding us all of all the good things that happened, while

• 23:52Tom Ellsworth?

  at the same time, they offer some concrete, um, you know, uh, you know, dates behind all this 1.5 trillion coming in to build more jobs in America. When are those jobs coming? And to get after affordability. And I think if the President should go on the offense about this, he's got a lot of good stuff to talk about.

• 24:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I do think the affordability is something that needs to be... Uh, focused on every time we have Brandon on when he talks about it from the, you know, younger standpoint, these are guys that want to have families and want to get through the next phase. But one of the topics that was brought up is, you know, who gets a lot of the SNAP benefits? And here's CNN, this fellow show stats on what's going on with who is getting the benefits the most. This is, Vinny, watch this video here. Go ahead, Rob.

• 24:37Speaker 06

  Illegal immigrants are not the reason why our healthcare system is broken.

• 24:41Speaker 12

  Yeah, it's not deflection at all. In fact, I brought receipts. So here's the CMS, the Center for Medicaid and Medicare Services, right here with their press release earlier this year saying they were having to increase their oversight on states like California who were abusing Medicaid and classifying it as an EUSA, an emergency system, when it wasn't. You've got, the average state spends 5% of its Medicaid roughly on emergency services. California, 35 to 40%. Why would that be? Because California passed a state law that says we will fund Medicaid for illegals. And then, oh, by the way, we'll raise our provider taxes. And then, oh, by the way, we'll use that as a match to draw down federal funds. And they're using this whole cavitation process. An accounting trick to put it on the taxpayer. Money is fungible and California's loophole is abusive.

• 25:25Speaker 12

  All right, back from CNN. Ooh, that was a lively one. And they hate it when you bring receipts. But let's talk about that Medicaid thing for a minute, because what you have right now is a thing called the California loophole. Liberals hate it when you bring receipts. But the California loophole is real. And the reason why the left wants to get this whole spending package revised right now is because they want to be able to fund Medicaid for illegals like California is doing.

• 25:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause, Rob. So you see, this, this is the thing about receipts, when you're bringing them up in front of them, and then they don't have an answer for it, right? Tom, what do you, what do you think about what he just said right there?

• 26:03Tom Ellsworth?

  He's exactly right. And we've talked about it on this podcast. You and I are from California. We speak of what we could actually see. And you had things like the hospitals that were downtown, South Central, or close to USC. They were actually providing services to students, local residents, and yes, South Central Los Angeles. There's emergency rooms that closed. Why did they close? Because California created Medi-Cal. Let's do the math and go through the steps that he's talking about. Medi-Cal says, "Okay, you do it." And when he talks about emergency services, he's talking about a bleeding, unconscious, shot, stabbed, car accident. They're not asking for an insurance card in those hospitals. They're taking care of you because you're a critical patient that paramedics are bringing in.

• 26:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Paramedics are there to preserve your status and stabilize you to get you to an emergency room. Emergency room does it, and then they find out, you know, this person is whoever they are, but they have no insurance, no means of paying, no nothing. But the services were provided. They... That's Medi-Cal doing that. Then they use the loophole, he said the loophole, to get the matching funds from the federal government. Did you hear him say that? Yep. That's how Newsom knows that the American people are paying the Medi-Cal gap to provide Medicaid services in the state of California. And then they put a tax on the hospitals. Remember, we covered this, Pat?

• 27:24Tom Ellsworth?

  They threw a tax on the hospitals and said, "You can't charge more than eight cents for an aspirin," or whatever it was. And guess what happened? Emergency rooms closed. So, thank you, Gavin Newsom. Your trick and what you did in California, not only is it a loophole and the tax on the people of America, you lost emergency rooms that went bankrupt in the communities that could use that loss the least. That's what I think of that. He brought those receipts.

• 27:49Patrick Bet-David?

  And so while that's going on, the president goes to the Redskins game, right? Washington Redskins. Just back in the days when they won the Super Bowl with Mark Rippon, when they were the Redskins. He goes there. And this is what happens. The reaction to the audience at the Redskins game that he's at. I just want you to watch to see what happens. Listen to the booing, because this is all they're playing everywhere right now. This is a very viral, exciting clip for the people on the left. Go ahead, Rob.

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• 29:32Speaker 13

  That was President Trump at halftime of the Commanders Lions NFL game, receiving significant and sustained boos as he was featured on the stadium's jumbotron, swearing in members of the US military to honor Veterans Day. Trump is attending this game in Maryland on the 40th day of the government shutdown, affecting so many people in this region. And it comes after ESPN reported that the White House has had back channel communications with the Washington Commanders, where the president has expressed interest in having the team's new stadium here in DC, named after himself.

• 30:10Patrick Bet-David?

  It's so unlike Trump to put his name on a building. That's crazy. Yeah, but, but also think about it. That's DC. Of course. DC is the number one city where they have the biggest percentage of people making the highest salary on average, and they have the biggest percentage of people making the least amount of salary, the poorest people. It's, it's the biggest difference on those two demos that you're looking at. So of course they're not going to like that. It's filled with liberals. It's filled with government employees. You're not happy about what's going on there, Rob? Which one is this? What is this?

• 30:44Speaker 05

  So this is during the game yesterday when the Lions scored a touchdown. The entire team did the trump dance.

• 30:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop.

• 30:50Speaker 11

  He points at Trump. He points at Trump?

• 30:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 30:57Speaker 11

  Good. Right in everybody in Washington's face.

• 30:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it, Rob. That's hilarious.

• 31:02Speaker 05

  I don't know if you guys saw the flyover, but the flyover.

• 31:04Patrick Bet-David?

  That was flyover was legit.

• 31:06Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, it was lower than they.

• 31:08Speaker 11

  Just gasoline aluminum oxide all over everybody's face.

• 31:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this.

• 31:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Apparently ESPN reported that the people, the operations at the stadium felt that that was lower than they thought it was going to be.

• 31:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, because when you look here, take a look, look how low they're right over the stadium.

• 31:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Good.

• 31:24Speaker 11

  Gangster.

• 31:28Speaker 11

  Well, his butt was over all of them. They can boo all they want, his butt was over their head.

• 31:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So, so now, now that.

• 31:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Full flaps out, just floating that bad boy.

• 31:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, now that, let's just say the shutdown's about to be done. Now what they're gonna, what are they gonna say? You know, is it gonna be, is it, is it, is it really who can tell the story better? Is it all marketing? Or is it really about, you know, people gonna find out that no, this wasn't on Republicans. It was on Democrats. What do you, what do you think's gonna happen, Adam?

• 31:59Adam Sosnick?

  As far as Trump in the RFK Stadium?

• 32:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah. No, no, what I'm saying is now, because they're booing because of shutdown, right? They're booing because some of these guys don't have jobs and, you know, they're seeing what's going on.

• 32:09Adam Sosnick?

  Is that why you think they were booing?

• 32:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know. Why else do you think?

• 32:12Adam Sosnick?

  I mean. I just think they don't like Trump.

• 32:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's just say half of them are booing because they don't like him. The other half are booing because of shutdown. But what do you think's gonna happen when the shutdown's over with?

• 32:21Adam Sosnick?

  I think people don't care. So of all the topics we discussed, how interested are we in the shutdown?

• 32:29Speaker 05

  I'm pretty interested.

• 32:29Adam Sosnick?

  Are we, we're somewhat interested. It doesn't affect us. I think in DC, they're so insulated in this bubble that they think that everyone's thinking about the shutdown. I don't think that most people thought about the shutdown until last week when a flight was canceled. Like I said, they see this movie the same time before. It's like. The little boy who cried shutdown. Oh, we have a shutdown. Oh, really? Has it affected your life at all? Unless you're a government employee, unless you're actually collecting your only government diamond or the government dole. Has the government affected your life, the government shutdown affected your life at all?

• 33:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Or not a diamond dole, an honest paycheck like Denny's.

• 33:05Speaker 11

  Yeah, like my sister who's still calling me and messaging me and saying, what's happening?

• 33:09Adam Sosnick?

  Space Force.

• 33:10Speaker 11

  Yeah.

• 33:10Adam Sosnick?

  Space Force.

• 33:11Speaker 11

  Yep.

• 33:11Adam Sosnick?

  So as far as DC, you can't trust what's coming out of there.

• 33:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, maybe let me ask this question.

• 33:16Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 33:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you think when he went to this game? Did you think he knew that he was gonna get booed like this?

• 33:21Adam Sosnick?

  I just don't think Trump gives a shit at this point.

• 33:24Tom Ellsworth?

  I think so.

• 33:24Adam Sosnick?

  I think if Trump gets booed.

• 33:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Probably a number of governments.

• 33:27Patrick Bet-David?

  He knows he's gonna get booed.

• 33:27Adam Sosnick?

  He knows he's gonna get booed in DC. DC is the most liberal city in the country.

• 33:31Tom Ellsworth?

  There's a lot of blue collar, there's a lot of unionized government.

• 33:33Adam Sosnick?

  Rob, pull up the most liberal cities. Who votes the most blue?

• 33:35Patrick Bet-David?

  So he went in thinking he's gonna get booed like this, Vinnie?

• 33:38Speaker 11

  I don't, I don't, I don't think, well, I don't think he likes, you know him. Like, you think he likes that? People booing him while, while he's reading, while he's reading that stuff to freaking soldiers, like, and Veterans Day's coming up? This was like, have some respect. I don't care if you hate him. He's reading this thing for the freaking, for the soldiers. Like, what are you, what are you doing? Like, have some, show some decency, but you can't ask, you can't expect that from people in DC.

• 34:03Adam Sosnick?

  Doesn't matter what he's saying, it's who's saying it. Rob, do you have the most liberal cities in America?

• 34:07Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's pulling it up right now.

• 34:08Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. Is DC number one or is there something above it?

• 34:11Speaker 05

  No, New York City was number one.

• 34:12Adam Sosnick?

  New York City, Mom Donnie City, get out of here.

• 34:14Speaker 11

  Yeah.

• 34:14Adam Sosnick?

  Where's DC rank?

• 34:16Speaker 05

  Uh, it just says, uh, DC ranks among the most strongly blue jurisdictions in the US based on presidential elections.

• 34:22Tom Ellsworth?

  I thought elections, it was Hawaii and DC.

• 34:24Speaker 05

  Ninety, to your point, 90% uh, normally vote Democratic.

• 34:29Adam Sosnick?

  90%?

• 34:31Patrick Bet-David?

  God.

• 34:31Adam Sosnick?

  90%?

• 34:32Patrick Bet-David?

  In 90, in 2020, look at that, Vinnie. The Democratic nominee got roughly 92% of the vote in DC. And the Republican got 5.4%. They hate Trump.

• 34:46Adam Sosnick?

  What is the definition of a monopoly percentage wise?

• 34:51Patrick Bet-David?

  55, 65%.

• 34:53Adam Sosnick?

  55%?

• 34:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 34:54Adam Sosnick?

  70 is like, dude, call antitrust, call the lawyer, 92%.

• 34:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 35:00Adam Sosnick?

  So if you're operating in DC, by the way, you have any friends in DC who says?

• 35:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't have any friends in DC.

• 35:05Adam Sosnick?

  You don't have any friends?

• 35:06Tom Ellsworth?

  None in DC.

• 35:06Adam Sosnick?

  I have multiple friends in DC, they say, DC's different.

• 35:09Patrick Bet-David?

  You got a very important friend in DC. He works at the White House. That's a very good friend. It's a very good friend and he likes, he likes you. He likes Benny. Okay, let's go to the next story. Next story is guys, if you are, if you got big plans for 2026 with your investments, uh, look no other than, um, uh, Nancy Pelosi, the GOAT. I mean, listen, she is like, folks, can you do me a favor? I'll give you guys five seconds. Get your pen and paper out and take notes. The legend's resume is about to be shown and you know, you know, all of these investments she made was all due to research and intuition. It's all about her gut. Gut feeling.

• 35:49Patrick Bet-David?

  She's got that gut, the instinct, the intuition of a Warren Buffett on steroids. By the way, you're about to find out what their net worth was before they started investing to where they are today. Rob, please play this clip. The legend.

• 36:03Speaker 14

  Reportedly raking in more than a hundred and thirty million dollars in profits from trading stocks during their thirty seven years in Congress. That's according to a new report by the New York Post. The former House Speaker saw a whopping return of nearly seventeen thousand percent. While in office.

• 36:22Speaker 14

  For taking office in nineteen eighty seven, a financial forum showed California Democrat and her husband reported up to.

• 36:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Their net worth was seven eighty five stocks to one thirty three.

• 36:32Speaker 14

  Worth of stocks in their portfolio. The report comes days after the eighty five year old announced she won from seeking reelection.

• 36:42Speaker 15

  This is the kind of stuff that makes people just hate government, hate politicians. It's disgusting. I don't know why.

• 36:49Patrick Bet-David?

  That's why she's the best.

• 36:50Speaker 15

  There's nothing happening to her. That's clearly inside information. There's no way she's that smart.

• 36:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Clearly.

• 36:56Speaker 14

  Very, very profitable business to be in politics.

• 36:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, you know, you can keep it positive. What I don't like is every once in a while, when you get a legend that comes through, people don't want to give her credit. You have to tip your hat. Listen, are you kidding? She is possibly the greatest insider trader in the history of politics. Who do you put ahead of her, Tom? She's a legend. Why don't we, why don't we recognize legends like her?

• 37:21Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, she's, you know, she's right up there on Mount Trade More, you know, she is number one up there. And, um, you know, I, I'm upset she's retiring. Why can't they just? Have her move her office across the street to the SSA, Social Security Administration, and manage the Social Security Administration Trust Fund. Why can't they do that?

• 37:41Speaker 11

  I know.

• 37:42Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, she'd be doing a service to people on Social Security like her. She's about to receive a Social Security check. Lord knows she needs it. You know, that's what I think. But you know what? Every now and then, there's an old saying.

• 37:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Estimated net worth, 240 to 280.

• 37:56Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll tell you, I don't know who said it. We can look it up and find out who said it. But it was the following quote, and I love it. "Every now and then, an innocent man is sent to the legislature."

• 38:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Every once in a while.

• 38:07Tom Ellsworth?

  An innocent man is sent to the legislature. And what I, when we hear all the jokes that we make, led by me, I do think it's really pathetic that we don't have conflict of interest or insider rules for our elected officials. And we make jokes about it, comedians make jokes about it, everybody jokes about it because it's just joke in plain sight. So Martha Stewart over a less than $200,000 gain, that's a lot of money. That's two, three years' salary for people, but think about it. Martha did time for less than 200 grand.

• 38:43Speaker 11

  Yep.

• 38:44Tom Ellsworth?

  This person made $133 million for the time she did in Congress. It just, it's, we gotta give greater voice to the people that have been trying to put those bills. And there's, there's been a couple of them this year, right, Pat? That people have been trying to put trader bills out there on them, a couple times this year. And I think the Congress just needs to get serious. They'll never vote for line item veto. They'll never vote balanced budget amendment. But can you at least vote that there's no insider trading in Congress?

• 39:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You think she's stepping away because of being age and done and health? You think she's stepping away because this Congress not being able to invest is getting so close that on both sides they want to pass it, that she just wants that to be gone and doesn't happen under her watch?

• 39:29Tom Ellsworth?

  I think there's a little of that. There has to be a little of that, but... Nancy is frail. You see her everywhere. You see her now. She's holding the elbow of somebody who's like escorting her. It looks like a security person. Exactly.

• 39:41Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, we're 40 years away from that.

• 39:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, but I mean, to be fair, by the way, I'm just being, I'm just being observant, right? You observe where you see Nancy, the security people are people next to her. She's holding the elbow, just same way I do with my mom. And so, number one, health-wise, it's time for her. Number two, you listen to the way she's reasoning and, you know what I'm saying? She's not as sharp as she once was. She's not saying wild ass crap the way Biden was. And she's not shaking hands with ghosts the way Biden was. But you can see the human frailty. Good grief, she's 85 years old. But Pat, I also believe that's the last thing she wants on her legacy, is to have one of those things passed and to have her accounts be the first one at the top of the list for a congressional hearing. She don't want that.

• 40:27Speaker 11

  I have a different take on why, but it'll be a later story that I'll bring her back up.

• 40:31Adam Sosnick?

  Adam. So, PBD, can you do some math with me real quick? So she's been in office 38 years. She's made, what, 170,000%? 17,000%?

• 40:45Patrick Bet-David?

  17,000%.

• 40:46Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. $133 million in profits.

• 40:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 40:50Adam Sosnick?

  So, maybe I'm doing the math wrong. 17,000 divided by 38 years, right? That would give you an average rate of return each year? Is that how you would do it? Comes out to 447% a year? How would you do that math?

• 41:05Patrick Bet-David?

  If that's a straight return, yes, but you have to use compound interest.

• 41:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, you have to compound it back.

• 41:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So to ask, if I started with $785,000 in an account in 1987, and now I have $133 million, million dollars in that account.

• 41:29Tom Ellsworth?

  What's my CAGR?

• 41:31Patrick Bet-David?

  What has been my, uh...

• 41:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Cumulative annual growth rate, CAGR.

• 41:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So I think, it's still a big number, by the way.

• 41:40Adam Sosnick?

  What's the number?

• 41:41Patrick Bet-David?

  It should be a big number, because you're dealing with compound. Interest is what you're dealing with, but... Fifteen percent per year. Your CAGR is fifteen percent per year. From seven eighty-five. Rob, what is it telling you?

• 41:58Tom Ellsworth?

  I have the numbers wrong. Seven eighty-five and the net, the total is one thirty?

• 42:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Hundred and thirty million dollars. So she is hundred and sixty-seven xed.

• 42:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Mm-hmm.

• 42:09Patrick Bet-David?

  But what I'm trying to find out is, what is the annual?

• 42:13Adam Sosnick?

  Average rate of return.

• 42:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 42:15Adam Sosnick?

  Because the average annual return of the S and P five hundred, you know.

• 42:18Tom Ellsworth?

  See, it says if you want, I can do the annual, I can give you the CAGR and say yes.

• 42:23Adam Sosnick?

  Because Tom, the average annual rate of return is eight to ten percent from the S and P five hundred, right? Depending on inflation, depending on.

• 42:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Fourteen point four six percent is what she's.

• 42:30Adam Sosnick?

  So it doesn't seem like an absurd number to, to average fifteen percent a year, does it?

• 42:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Fifteen percent a year, no. But, but the part that sounds absurd, you, you have to also realize.

• 42:43Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 42:43Patrick Bet-David?

  That's how much is in the portfolio. They're guesstimating their net worth is around two hundred and fifty million dollars. You're assuming.

• 42:49Adam Sosnick?

  Outside of the portfolio as well.

• 42:51Patrick Bet-David?

  You're assuming the seven eighty-five, they never took money out to buy a house or buy weddings and all this other stuff that they have to do.

• 42:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Or buy an election, you know.

• 42:57Patrick Bet-David?

  But I, I would say they're probably at thirty to forty percent rate of return with some of the activities that they have, that's been a little bit suspicious.

• 43:06Adam Sosnick?

  And specifically, I know we kind of clown on Paul Pelosi after that rendezvous with the hammer. What does he actually do for work?

• 43:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Hammer's twenty-two bucks, so.

• 43:14Adam Sosnick?

  What does he actually do for work? Because everyone, you know, piles on Nancy. But what does her husband do? Because I assume he's the moneymaker in the family.

• 43:21Tom Ellsworth?

  He just invests and does that type of stuff.

• 43:23Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, what do you mean he just invests?

• 43:24Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what he does. He has a job, John.

• 43:26Adam Sosnick?

  They're worth two hundred and fifty million bucks.

• 43:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, he's, she keeps him off and he invests.

• 43:29Adam Sosnick?

  So he's a venture capitalist and he's, and he's in.

• 43:31Tom Ellsworth?

  He's a listener of Nancy Pelosi. He just listens to what she gets from the insiders and that's what she does.

• 43:37Adam Sosnick?

  Her husband.

• 43:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, she's in Congress for how long?

• 43:39Adam Sosnick?

  So why is nobody, if she is doing something illegal? Do you think she's done something actually illegal and broken the laws? Or are our stock act laws so gray that politicians can just maneuver within this with no accountability? And you can just yell at them and call them frauds, but nothing actually happens? Which one do you think it is?

• 43:59Tom Ellsworth?

  So has she actually broken the law? I can't say yes or no, but I can say this. You know, you know what I've been doing with autopilot since July first? I went in and looked at those lists of things and the things that were bought. And, you know, Palantir showed up and came and went, you know, before the announcement.

• 44:17Tom Ellsworth?

  On congress and remember they're reading off all of the all of the forms that have to get filed and so the interesting thing about all this is that you can see the trades happening there and CNN and others and Fox have pointed out trades that were made by our elected officials and then three weeks later there's a bill that says oh you you and you get the government contract.

• 44:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I guess this is the main thing Tom.

• 44:42Tom Ellsworth?

  So I can't I can't say yes she broke the law.

• 44:44Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a very basic question for you. The main the basic question for you is the following do you think do you think people who are in office who have access to information that you don't have they should be able to invest in a market based on information that they have?

• 45:01Adam Sosnick?

  No. Should they be able to invest in the market? Yes. Should they be able to actively trade based on information? Hell.

• 45:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I can tell the difference.

• 45:09Adam Sosnick?

  So you put it in the index fund and that's it? I feel like there should be a rule that you cannot do active trading, right? Because there's passive investing.

• 45:17Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what she's doing.

• 45:18Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 45:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 45:20Adam Sosnick?

  But I assume that who's the Republican version of Nancy?

• 45:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, there's plenty of them.

• 45:23Adam Sosnick?

  That's my point.

• 45:24Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, this is not a left.

• 45:25Adam Sosnick?

  She's the poster child of this.

• 45:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but she is the highest ranking person to do what she's done at the levels that she's done.

• 45:31Adam Sosnick?

  No doubt. She's the poster child for this. But there's Republicans guilty of this as well. Who is it?

• 45:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, Romney is well Romney was a successful guy before.

• 45:40Adam Sosnick?

  Before, correct, with Bain Capital, I believe?

• 45:42Patrick Bet-David?

  But you could have a few other guys here that could be like Mitch McConnell is a good one.

• 45:46Adam Sosnick?

  Perfect.

• 45:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, but look at Mitch McConnell's profit. How much was that?

• 45:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Six mil.

• 45:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, look at hers.

• 45:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, come on.

• 45:52Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not in the same league. Twenty-four point one million.

• 45:54Adam Sosnick?

  What I'd be most interested in hearing is what politicians from the left and the right are saying about this? Who's the was it who was our buddy that was here that's the um representative in Silicon Valley? Ro Khanna. Isn't he actively talking about something like this? He wants to stop the stock?

• 46:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes. Yes, it's not

• 46:11Adam Sosnick?

  I would love to see a bipartisan approach.

• 46:13Patrick Bet-David?

  AOC is, a few, few different people are on both sides. Even Anna Paulina Luna is, that was here the other day when we spoke to her, Tom.

• 46:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Senator Mark Kelly set up an ethics committee, approved blind trust and demonstrated that he had moved all of his assets into the blind trust. And the blind trust's purpose is for the independent financial advisors to trade limited, limited transactions and he is not part of the decision-making process. Mostly were related to REITs and indexes.

• 46:46Adam Sosnick?

  Bingo. So I love that you highlighted one word. Limited, you said limited, what?

• 46:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, they limit the trades. They limited the trade flow.

• 46:54Adam Sosnick?

  Because you know, in an, in an index fund or a passive fund, you're not in and out of the market, you're not trading based on information or new stock that might come up. The active tradings, I think, are where people get in trouble. Oh, yeah, really hard about this. I feel like they should put a law or some sort of guideline. You cannot trade in and out of stocks. That's where you take advantage of this.

• 47:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so, so here it is. So here's a politician on trying to ban or restrict lawmakers from trading individual stocks because of concerns about access to non-public information. John Ossoff, Senator Georgia, he's a Democrat, sponsored the Senate Ban Congressional Stock Trading Act. Then you have Mark Kelly, Arizona, who is also a Democrat. Worked with Ossoff on the same thing. Then you have Josh Hawley as well, Republican out of Missouri, who has joined it as well. You got Dean Phillips that I think he wanted to run for president.

• 47:47Adam Sosnick?

  Minnesota, yeah.

• 47:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Minnesota, co-sponsored it. And then Rokana, who we talked about earlier.

• 47:53Tom Ellsworth?

  I disagree with a lot of Rokana, but he would know in his district.

• 47:55Adam Sosnick?

  The individual stocks is where you get into hot water. Because I think a politician, if they have a 401K, listen, a politician, this is how they're supposed to have retirement money, right? In their 401K or 403B or whatever it's called in Congress.

• 48:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Like anybody else.

• 48:09Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, they should be in an index fund, they should be in an ETF, they should not be able to trade individual stocks. And then there's no

• 48:17Adam Sosnick?

  Conflict of interest. If you're trading in out of stocks, that's where it kind of comes into all this. And then.

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• 49:26Adam Sosnick?

  They should, and then they should have a target.

• 49:28Patrick Bet-David?

  The longest pause you've taken in your life. Like it was a brain, I felt like the brain stopped.

• 49:34Speaker 11

  And I went like this, I went.

• 49:35Adam Sosnick?

  Because here's also.

• 49:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Get this man some coffee, folks. Those people pray for weeks.

• 49:39Adam Sosnick?

  Holy shit. You know how when you invest in the market, PBD?

• 49:42Patrick Bet-David?

  This is brought to you by FedDrain.

• 49:43Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly. Hello, wake up, Adam, just had some coffee.

• 49:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Rip fuel.

• 49:46Adam Sosnick?

  You know, so Warren Buffett says, listen, put your money in S and P 500 and just invest in America. But that's not your only component of an asset allocation.

• 49:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's get past the story.

• 49:55Adam Sosnick?

  Let me just ask you one question, PBD. What percent of your asset allocation is in an American funds? American companies versus international?

• 50:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I am pro-America. I am very little international.

• 50:10Adam Sosnick?

  I just traded.

• 50:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 50:12Adam Sosnick?

  So I have my money with fidelity. Apparently, if you want to do a world index, like a world conglomerate, whatever you call it, they mandate that you do two thirds of your portfolio into America and one third into international. I'm speaking to my guys. I said, let me ask you guys a question. Over the last 10 years, what has been the rate of return for the S and P 500 versus whatever you're calling the world index that has emerging markets and everything? And basically it was double the rate of return, America versus the international. I go, so why am I invested in international at all? They go, "Well, we want to diversify." I go, "F your diversification." Put everything 100% into America.

• 50:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Damn.

• 50:52Adam Sosnick?

  Everything. So what's my point? Every single one of these politicians should be in an ETF, S and P 500, all in America. I don't need you investing in emerging markets in India. I don't want you talking about a new company in Bangladesh. 100% of their stock allocation should be in America and you should not be able to actively trade in and out of it.

• 51:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to the next one. Good, good point. So next one to get into. Here's the next one. So Housing Director Confirms Administration Working on a 50-Year Mortgage After Trump Hint.

• 51:25Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, my God.

• 51:26Patrick Bet-David?

  50-year mortgage? Yes. 50-year mortgage. What would it look like? Go ahead, Rob.

• 51:32Speaker 16

  Trying to find an answer on affordability for housing, which right now, we're seeing one of the worst housing markets that we've seen in recent times. And so, the 50-year mortgage is a play to lower people's monthly mortgage payments. But the downside is, especially early on, all of that payment will be going to interest. And of course, since you're paying over 50 years and not over 30 years, you're going to be paying off that mortgage for a lot longer. So, the details are still to be worked out, but it looks to be like the President's looking for a quick fix to a market that is fundamentally broken right now.

• 52:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so this guy's a Democrat, right? Because you see the back, in the back, if you zoom in on the books, you'll see the New Deal. Go back a little bit, right? Do you see it to the left? He's got the New Deal. You can always tell what books they're reading. Okay. Do you know, do you know, while this guy's saying this, it's so funny. Do you know who came up with the 30-year mortgage? Do you know who came up with the 30-year mortgage? I want you to think about, can you, right there, Rob, can you pull that up? Here's who came up with the 30-year mortgage.

• 52:31Adam Sosnick?

  FDR?

• 52:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. FDR came up with the 30-year mortgage. So, did you say the same thing back in the days, fellow? I don't know what your name is, but you know, well-spoken guy a minute ago. Crashed. So he did 30 years. Trump's going to 50 years. By the way, Tom, the question is, if you're a bank... If you're a bank, would you get into the 50-year business game? Would we do that knowing you're collecting the interest upfront? Would you entertain the 30 versus 50? Because how do you set it up? You still have to find a way to make it profitable for the banks, right?

• 53:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Right.

• 53:02Patrick Bet-David?

  So the bank has to get their money, or else there's no incentive for them to want to sell this loan. Okay? What would be the incentive for banks to sell 50-year loans?

• 53:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, as long as they felt that the underlying asset wasn't going to drop. Now, so here's what the bank has to do. Your house is a collateral. You stop paying, Vinny, I'm gonna take your house. I'm gonna sell it to the next guy. That's what a bank will do. We'll auction it. They'll auction it off. Now then, what it means, Pat, is the first 10 years of that 50-year loan, the bank has to underwrite it and be comfortable that that house won't decline in value. You follow that? Because not much will be paid off in 10 years, Pat. Not much at all. So if you and I, Tom and Pat's bank, and we do a 50-year mortgage, our underwriting has to say, are we sure that house is not going to go down in these first 10 years?

• 53:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 53:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Because if we have to seize the house and auction it, we gotta make sure that that house is worth more than the loan's worth. So it makes the front-end underwriting has to be more certain for the banks. But I just did a little analysis. 30-year, 400,000, 6 and 1/4, 2,462 is the payment. 50-year, 6 and 1/4, 400,000, 2,179. So about a $300 difference on a $400,000 mortgage. However, next to no principal is paid off in those first 10 years. Very little. And then it accelerates. So for the banks,

• 54:33Tom Ellsworth?

  more people will qualify using standard ratios and measurements. But the bank better be sure that those houses don't drop in those first 10 years.

• 54:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, go back to where you were at right there a minute ago. Watch this. So this is 30-year payment, 30-year loan, 360 payments. Your main payment will be 2,684. Total interest paid for was 466. 40, $2,400. So you save maybe 150 bucks, 130 bucks. No, 100 and... No, you save 270 bucks. And eventually you end up paying 658,000. There's 200,000 more. And in 50 years is 2,272, which is $142 less.

• 55:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Of the 40 year and you end up paying 863 long term. So.

• 55:19Adam Sosnick?

  What's the price of the house?

• 55:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 55:21Adam Sosnick?

  Is that based on a half a million? What is this?

• 55:23Tom Ellsworth?

  I think.

• 55:24Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a half a million dollar loan. It's a half a million dollar loan is what you're looking.

• 55:26Adam Sosnick?

  So it's a half a million dollar house? So what's the interest rate that you put on this, Rob? 6%?

• 55:31Patrick Bet-David?

  5% fix.

• 55:33Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, but it's not even 5% right now. Gotcha. What would it be in a 15, what would it be? Okay, PBD, I mean, you already know where I stand on this. I just, you know, what you're doing, I know you're running your numbers. What are you thinking on this right now?

• 55:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, here's the thing, Adam. I've never lost money buying a house. Because the math on buying a house is the following. Here's the math on buying a house. Okay, let's just kind of do. You know, if you just do the flat interest, you're not making a lot of money. If I buy a 600,000 dollar house, how much down payment am I putting on a 600,000 dollar house, Tom? If I got a 750 credit score?

• 56:11Tom Ellsworth?

  A 600,000 dollar house, you'll have to put down about 120.

• 56:14Patrick Bet-David?

  20%? Okay.

• 56:15Adam Sosnick?

  20% you have to put down?

• 56:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let's just say, let's just, let's just. Type in, Rob, if I have a 600,000 dollar house, 750 credit score, how much down payment would I need to put down? Can I do 10%?

• 56:26Tom Ellsworth?

  My boy Vinny's gonna get a B. Yeah, like there are some states who give you a first time home.

• 56:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's what a first time, let's just say 10%.

• 56:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 56:32Patrick Bet-David?

  So if I do first time, I'm putting 60K down.

• 56:35Tom Ellsworth?

  And you have to pay PNI.

• 56:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So I'm financing 540 is what I'm financing. Okay? So now, what is the rate of return on real estate the last decade?

• 56:47Adam Sosnick?

  5%.

• 56:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 56:48Adam Sosnick?

  If that.

• 56:49Patrick Bet-David?

  But what I'm saying is fine.

• 56:50Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 56:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Go 5%. If we do 5% on that 600K, 5% on 600K over 10 years, 6 to 7% average, let's take 6%. Okay? So what is the price of this 600,000 dollar house come 10 years from now?

• 57:08Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the price of the $600,000 house come 10 years from now? At 6%. So say if I bought a $600,000 house and it grows at 6% every year, what is the property value 10 years from now? 7% will be 1.2 million, so I'm probably gonna say 6% is gonna be 980. Let's just say 980 is what it should be. 1,074,000. Okay. So 1,074, you just made $574,000 on that money. Okay, $574,000 on the 600K. You put 60,000 down. What's your monthly payment on that, Rob?

• 57:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Just say what is your payment on a $540,000 loan at 6%? 30-year fix. Let's just not even say 30-year fix. Tom, let's say we do a 10-year adjustable.

• 58:00Adam Sosnick?

  Yep, I'm doing it.

• 58:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Do a 10-year ARM, okay? 10-year ARM. So 540.

• 58:07Adam Sosnick?

  Vinnie, an ARM is an adjustable rate mortgage. It's not a working out by cep.

• 58:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So what is the payment on that? Everything 32, 30 years. So let's actually do the math right now. So I'm, and then, Rob, can you do me a favor?

• 58:20Adam Sosnick?

  I just do it.

• 58:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Ask, what is the rent? What is the average rent nationwide? Okay. What is a $600,000 house average get in the country today? We're gonna actually do the math very deep right now.

• 58:34Adam Sosnick?

  I love it.

• 58:35Patrick Bet-David?

  So go, what is a $600,000 budget gets you? How big of a house does a $600,000 budget get you in America? On average? We're not saying Toledo. We're not saying Beverly Hills. I'm saying Toledo.

• 58:49Adam Sosnick?

  How big of a house?

• 58:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, like I'm getting married. I got a wife and kids. I wanna have a family. How many bedrooms is that? 2576. Okay. 2576.

• 58:59Adam Sosnick?

  Three bedrooms.

• 59:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I think that's 4.3. I think that's 4.3. Okay, Rob, can you then ask the following question? What is the average rent for a 2,576 square foot home in America? We're getting very deep, if you notice what I'm doing right now.

• 59:16Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly.

• 59:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, cuz I know where you're going. And I'm gonna do the math as deep as you wanna go with this here right now.

• 59:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So the average rent is what? Seventeen fifty-four. Okay, so now notice. Seventeen fifty-four for, oh, nine oh eight. So what is the average rent for? Why does that say fifty-nine hundred? What is that? Fifty-nine hundred rent? Holy shit, that's a lot. Extrapolate. Twenty-five hundred square foot home, though. Okay, I, I, that's a lot of rent, Rob. Holy moly. So why don't we, damn. So I don't think it's gonna be fifty-nine hundred. Uh, no, I wanna do rent. Okay. What is the, what is the average rent for a two thousand five hundred and seventy square foot home in America?

• 1:00:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me average, not high or low, but average, okay? I don't know if you're getting this number or not. We're getting to, we're getting to the bottom of this number. That number should be, I'm trying to go to twenty-one hundred dollars, still saying the same number, right? It's telling me the same number as well. What number do you guys wanna pick? Let's pick a rent. I wrote nineteen hundred before it came out because that's the stuff I've been reading. Okay, can we just say it's two thousand dollars a month? Let's just say the average rent rate, there's twenty-one hundred dollars a month. Let's go with twenty-one hundred dollars a month, okay? So what's twenty-one hundred, what's thirty-two thirty-eight minus twenty-one hundred?

• 1:00:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Thirty-two thirty-eight minus twenty-one hundred is eleven thirty-eight. Now take eleven thirty-eight times hundred and twenty, because you know what I'm doing. Uh, Adam, are you tracking or no? I'm doing some numbers here. Eleven thirty-eight times a hundred and twenty, Vinny, is... Vinny's face was... By the way... Matthew, you guys, you guys cut, you guys cut. Just stop. Are you guys still, I'm gonna cut that down. But do you know what we're doing, Vinny? This is very important. No, I'm tracking, no, but I'm tracking, cause I'm paying big ass rent. Here's where I'm at now. I'm at a hundred and, I'm just showing you this. We're at a hundred and thirty-six thousand five sixty, okay? So, if we take that six percent concept...

• 1:01:19Patrick Bet-David?

  If we take that 6% concept, that the value of real estate makes an average return of 6% every year, over 10 years, your $600,000 house you bought will be $1,074,000. $1,074,000 minus, okay, minus, can't believe we're getting this deep in the loan, but let's do it anyways. Minus $600,000, you've made $474,000 in return. If I take $474,000 minus, Vinnie, $136,540 that you would have paid at a 2100 rent,

• 1:02:00Patrick Bet-David?

  10 years later, owning a home would have gotten you $337,000, let's add the $60,000 down payment to it as well. I mean, you're making $397,460, buying a house versus renting a house over 10 years.

• 1:02:19Adam Sosnick?

  But let's go deeper. Go. Extrapolated, Adam, go ahead. Your argument, or not your argument, the argument is you're not going to lose money by buying up real estate. It's almost like buying a bond.

• 1:02:32Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a lot of caveats, buddy, so, but I want to hear you. Go ahead, make your argument.

• 1:02:37Adam Sosnick?

  So,

• 1:02:40Adam Sosnick?

  what, what's a better?

• 1:02:41Patrick Bet-David?

  That's another 30 second.

• 1:02:42Adam Sosnick?

  What's a better? You're on lock. You're going Bidensville, bro.

• 1:02:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Get this guy some brain.

• 1:02:45Adam Sosnick?

  To be honest with you, I haven't had my coffee this morning. It was Rory's 13th birthday. I went all yesterday. I'm struggling right now. You know that. The argument is not, is buying a house a good investment? It is a okay investment. I'm not shitting on the investment. I don't think it's a bad investment. I'm not recommending that you don't do the investment. I'm saying if you're solving for rate of return.

• 1:03:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop, stop, stop. Based on this argument. We did it as Technical as possible. Technical as possible. Correct. I'm willing to bet we lost viewership right now. Let me just see where people are probably like, stop talking about this. I don't want to talk about this. I'm telling you right now, Adam, okay? This is my advice to people. If you're in the area where you're working for a company advan- like if I'm working for Marriott, say I'm working for Marriott and my goal is to be a general manager running a hotel one day. Guess what I'm not doing for 10 years? I'm not buying a house. Correct, because you could be moving around. I'm gonna be moving. We're opening up a new Marriott in London. Do you want to go? No, I'm not gonna get stabbed, but I'll go to Dubai, right?

• 1:03:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you want to go to a new Marriott that's coming? Yes, if your job requires potential promotions to move. For me, when I was PHP, I know I'm moving. As crazy it is, I bought a li- I bought a house eventually in that community that we lived in, Tranmere State. You've never been to it. Tom has been to it. I bought the cul-de-sac. And I bought it right next to the Barry Bonds agent. So we love this community. There's 21 homes. I rented a house in a community. I bought the house in a corner. Two years later, I'm leaving. You remember that time? Tuesday, I'm like, shit, I'm going to Texas. I still made $200,000. I still made $200,000 when I bought this because it was prime property cul-de-sac in a gated community with only 21, uh, 21 homes. Then we go to the house in Dallas. You've been to our house in Dallas. Did you go to both of them or just one of them? Did you go to the other house?

• 1:04:38Patrick Bet-David?

  The four-story, 15,000 square foot home? You didn't go to that one? I didn't go to that one. Okay, so the, the one, but the other one you went to, right? With the pool table. Yes, yes, yes. The other one you went to. We made money on that one. The house we bought here, we made money on this one. If a person's buying long-term, you, you ha- like if, this is what I did for a living financially, but you're sitting on doing the math with them. When you get to the bottom of it, the question is simple. Are you planning on living in this place for 10 years? Yes. Then I would lean more towards buying than renting. If you tell me no, then I would say pump the brakes. That's really how simple it is. We are fully on the same page. Fully on the, the, I'm not, I have zero disagreements.

• 1:05:20Adam Sosnick?

  So my contention is never don't buy real estate. I've never said that.

• 1:05:25Patrick Bet-David?

  This is as thorough as a breakdown we could have done for the people that are watching.

• 1:05:29Adam Sosnick?

  Can I ask you a very specific question?

• 1:05:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, of course, of course.

• 1:05:30Adam Sosnick?

  If you could put these three, PBD's money, we know 150 million ain't what it used to be. Ain't what it used to be. PBD's money, if you could put the following three things where you've made the most money.

• 1:05:41Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's not close.

• 1:05:42Adam Sosnick?

  Working on a business, your stock portfolio.

• 1:05:45Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a different conversation.

• 1:05:46Adam Sosnick?

  Or your housing portfolio, what ranked those three for you?

• 1:05:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not everybody, though.

• 1:05:51Adam Sosnick?

  I'm saying for you, I want to know you.

• 1:05:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I know, a guy asked me, if you could define yourself with one word, what would it be? And it can't be politics or family, non-family. I said, operator. I love the day-to-day grind.

• 1:06:07Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 1:06:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, since what time I've been at the office today? You don't even know what time I've been at the office today. Yesterday, I was at Naples, Dylan had a game. I went to the championship, coming back, and I've been dealing with a bunch of chaos this weekend. PHP was here the day before Saturday, 7:45, I'm at the office, you know what day, what time my Saturday ended, you know what time my Saturday ended? 2 o'clock in the morning. My day started Saturday, 7:45 in the morning. It ended Sunday, 2 o'clock in the morning. I come home Sunday, 2 o'clock in the morning. Then I gotta get, you know, doing stuff with the kids to go to the... I'm back and forth, but I freaking love being an operator, right? But that's not everybody. If somebody's watching this right now who has a job making $82,000, your wife makes $59,000, they're trying to make a decision, do we listen to the people that are saying it or not?

• 1:06:51Patrick Bet-David?

  And you know there's not going to be a massive amount of changes in your life the next 10 years. Massive. If there is, then you have to adjust accordingly. But if you know it's going to be, I'm going to be with this company, long-term, I love it here. This is what I'm going to be doing. This is the industry I'm going to be on. This is the city I'm going to live in, probably within a 5-10 mile radius. Then guess what? Lock it up and get something, if you can afford it. Because it's... And by the way, guess what else you have to be thinking about? Never has there been more important time, Tom, to buy a house in a community in a area based on politics than today. Oh, man. Do you know what just happened right now with California and Texas? Folks, let me tell you what happened with California and Texas.

• 1:07:34Patrick Bet-David?

  This whole thing with the elections and all this stuff that they're saying going into midterms. Do you know what California and Texas just did with redistricting? Do you know Prop 50 and what Texas did? Do you know what they did? Guess what's gonna happen? Texas protected themselves. We're gonna stay Republican for many, many decades. Come do something about it. You know what California did? We're gonna stay Democrat for many, many decades. Come do something about it. A-Rod's being interviewed and he's being asked, what areas do you buy properties in? And he says, red states. Why red states? Because people are moving to red states. What are red states? Pick them. Pick them. Tennessee, Florida used to be purple, now it's red. Texas, where are you investing in?

• 1:08:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So, you know, these are the types of decisions you gotta make with your family and say, where are we gonna go buy a home long term? But if it's 10 years, I'm banking on buying a home instead of renting a home. Because 10 years later, that family's gonna have an additional $400,000 of net worth added to their name. That they wouldn't have had. All right, let's go to the next story. Um, next story, next story. Uh, boom, boom. Where's that one story, Vinny, you wanted to get to? Uh, the Jan 6? Yeah, I'm gonna go to, you wanna go to that? You wanna go to the Newsom one? Which one you want? Yeah, let's go Newsom. Newsom gives Trump a new nickname after President appears to nod off during White House announcement. So what happened here? Is this a real nodding off, Vinny, or no? I honestly didn't even see this. Rob, do you have a clip or no of this?

• 1:09:00Speaker 05

  I don't have a clip of that. I do have a clip of Newsom talking about SNAP benefits where he recites Bible verses.

• 1:09:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, this is, this really bothered me. No, this is Gavin Newsom. You call them the nod father. The nod father. California Democrat President, Kevin Costner, nodding off at various occasions above the words, "nod father," in a Golden, some movie, saw this, had to share it, social media post. 79-year-old president struggled to keep his eyes open Friday during the televised event at the White House where several administration officials announced lower prices for weight loss drugs. People can sleep again because they can breathe when they go to bed. Dr. Oz said this and the prescription. So what is he talking about here? Is this actual story with the not father?

• 1:09:37Adam Sosnick?

  It's all BS.

• 1:09:38Speaker 11

  Pat, this is the same guy, Pat, that said Joe Biden was the best and he's doubled down a thousand times. For the first time in nine years, Donald Trump kind of closed his eyes. Kind of, okay, kinda did that. I'm, I, I, I don't, I've never had this type of feeling towards any politician. And I keep, I'm gonna keep doing it because as these years, by the way, it's happening, it's happening. We're almost, we're one year past. It's gonna be 2028.

• 1:10:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, look.

• 1:10:12Speaker 11

  Look at him. Oh, oh my goodness. An 80 year old guy got one time, got a little, oh, maybe, yeah. Oh my, oh my, it's over, guys. It's over. This is the same.

• 1:10:23Adam Sosnick?

  What is Newsom trying to say here?

• 1:10:26Speaker 11

  What do you think? The not father? Now, he, he's trying, let me explain something to you. This guy is, is, I've already called it. I said he's gonna be the front runner. I mean, it's no secret. What he's doing, he just went overseas. Now he's in Texas. He has the, the freaking audacity to put the American flag behind him. He's, he's the most un-American, uh, person out there. I, I love that you're saying, Pat, who's going to California? And I, I, it still boggles my mind. People like Bill Maher, and I get it. You're in California, your show's in California, you love Gavin Newsom, his words exactly. I love the guy. I love the guy because you have the money and you can afford it, but the rest of the freaking people in California are bleeding out. There's a clip, is this the one, Rob, about?

• 1:11:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Gotts will scripture.

• 1:11:08Speaker 11

  No, but well, this one right here, Robbie, is this the one where he says we have to democratize the economy? Is that one it? Uh, is it? This one right here. But listen to this. Look at what he has to do. Listen to this.

• 1:11:17Speaker 17

  Is we gotta deal with the issue of our time that we have to democratize this economy if we're gonna save democracy. You just can't, you can't have 10% of, of people owning two thirds of the wealth in this country. You can't have that 30 year old that's doing worse than his parents' generation for the first time in US history. And so those are fundamental issues that were obviously present in this election on Tuesday.

• 1:11:39Speaker 11

  And Rob, you can stop it. So Pat, he's. Trump has done nothing to cater to his billionaire friends and the result folks are working at Amazon are paying 12% more Target blah blah blah. Here's a problem. The majority of California pays over 11% in sales tax no matter how poor they are. Thanks to Gavin Newsom. It has the highest gas prices in the nation and electricity crisis, sky high insurance costs and if people even get coverage anymore, that's thanks to him, okay? And he turned one of the most beautiful states in America that you lived in, that he lived in, that I lived in into a nightmare for the middle class, okay? He's choke working families with endless taxes, regulations, failed policies. Let's forget about COVID. Let's forget about the

• 1:12:20Speaker 11

  response for the Palisades and there's over 190,000 homeless people in California, guys. They look like freaking third world zones. These cities in California and San Francisco, instead of making California healthier and wealthier, he's made them poorer, sicker, and hopeless. And now, Tom, I've been dying. Last night I thought about you and about this clip. Rob, can you go to the clip with him talking about, besides him having the flag behind him, which I think is a disgrace, him, this serpent, trying to talk about God and scripture? No, Adam, this drove me through the roof. You think he's a Christian? You think Gavin Newsom is going to church? You think he's professing his faith to people? The fact that he was trying to use SNAP and food stamps with the Bible drove me nuts. Go ahead, Rob, play this.

• 1:13:04Speaker 17

  But think about the state of mind of the Vice President. How do they, honestly, how do you square the circle when you go to a prayer breakfast? How do you square the circle? I mean, Old Testament, New Testament. What's the fundamental thing that connects every, I mean, from John to Matthew to Proverbs?

• 1:13:20Speaker 11

  Proverbs.

• 1:13:21Speaker 17

  It's this notion of hunger, feeding the poor, the sick, the tired. It's not an option. It's essential to advancing God's work.

• 1:13:28Speaker 11

  God's work.

• 1:13:29Speaker 17

  Fundamental point that we'd be using.

• 1:13:31Speaker 11

  Look at him.

• 1:13:31Speaker 17

  This is what it's about. And the federal government said it in the lawsuit, that they want to use it as a bargaining chip. A bargaining chip to end this shutdown. That's shameful. It's never happened in US history.

• 1:13:43Speaker 11

  I never thought the day would come that this unholy serp at the fact that he's trying to go to scripture, like to justify the government's decency. To me, it's sick. And guess what? Because he's talking about, these people deserve this money, right? In the Bible, and I know what you're gonna say, this is what it says in regards to work, responsibility and self reliance. In two Thessalonians, chapter three, verse 10, if anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. Paul said this to his believers who stopped working.

• 1:14:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Not crippled, but if not willing.

• 1:14:12Speaker 11

  Not willing, meaning you don't want to work. Well, he incentivizes illegals to come because their votes, Tom. And then in Genesis two, verse 15, the Lord took the man and put him in the garden to work and to keep it. You have to work.

• 1:14:25Tom Ellsworth?

  First thing he did with Adam after he created it, he gave him a job.

• 1:14:28Speaker 11

  Go to work before sin even entered the world. God was like, hey, Adam, nice. You like the bushes? Get over them, work. And the last one was proverbs, lazy hands make for poverty, but diligent hands bring wealth. God honors the worker, not the idol. This guy, his entire party, I want everybody to understand, is bring illegals, give them money, and they vote for you, and that's it. Period.

• 1:14:52Tom Ellsworth?

  So part of Gavin Newsom, he's running, he's running for president, and you expect him to say certain things.

• 1:14:58Speaker 11

  Yes.

• 1:14:58Tom Ellsworth?

  But when he tries to cross over and do this, he's gonna get called to receipts. And the receipts have never been greater than on the pages of scripture. And he is attempting to use scripture to make his point. Well, I'll tell you, there was a time when Jesus was tempted. Satan came to Jesus and attempted to use scripture with him. He said, took him to the desert for 40 days, and he said, you know, you can make these stones turn into bread. You know, why don't you do that? And he says, look, scripture says, man does not live by bread alone. He took him to the highest point in the temple, and he said, throw yourself down. Won't legions of angels come and rescue you? And he said, the scripture says, do not put the Lord your God to the test. And so when you start using scripture and you try to make political points,

• 1:15:42Tom Ellsworth?

  you need to be very, very careful because you're dealing with a consequential,

• 1:15:47Tom Ellsworth?

  you know, result here that is much bigger than any pundit that any person can bring to you, is as you're attempting to use the word of God and to morph it to make your argument, and you're morphing it in the wrong way, he's got a serious issue. But what we need to do. We need to bring the receipts to the American people and we need to find the reasonable Californians and the reasonable liberals that want to look at facts. Because I'll tell you what's going on. What's going on is he's an effective campaigner. What's going on is he's effective to the media. What's going on is he may turn your stomach on one side, but he is turning voters on his side. Take a look at this. You see that in the lower left corner, Pat?

• 1:16:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Damn.

• 1:16:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Twenty-seven point five million dollars has been wagered and it's currently, right now, at a thirty-seven, thirty-six percent chance. This is not polling, so it's not, he doesn't have thirty-six percent of the polls. The wagering public on Calci believes that there is a thirty-six percent chance that Gavin Newsom will be the nominee. And the key two that are right in there with him is AOC and Kamala Harris. AOC at ten percent, Kamala Harris at six. And then the field. So, this will change. JB Pritzker wants to run and he's gonna put money into it and he's gonna weigh in

• 1:17:04Tom Ellsworth?

  and the DNC wants him because frankly, the DNC allegedly believes that all the stuff that Gavin is doing right now, he's making a bunch of negative campaign ads for himself, Pat. There are people in the DNC that think that all of this activity, all the things he did, getting called out in the mini debate a year and a half ago with DeSantis on the, "Hey, let me show you the map of San Francisco." This is from your own people? There's a lot of people that are frustrated by that and think that he's just filled the canon with a lot of negative ads are gonna come back the other way. But, right now, you got twenty-seven million dollars that's been wagered.

• 1:17:41Patrick Bet-David?

  That he's gonna go.

• 1:17:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Thirty-seven percent.

• 1:17:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what I think, you know what I think Republicans have to be aware of? Is the following.

• 1:17:48Tom Ellsworth?

  This is what I wanted to hear.

• 1:17:49Patrick Bet-David?

  What I think Republicans have to be aware of is, you know, there's nothing more,

• 1:17:59Patrick Bet-David?

  what's the word?

• 1:18:02Patrick Bet-David?

  The blind spots that come from being super cocky, just because you have Trump right now and he's the most formidable guy they've had going against the establishment, at least in our generation that we've had, that he stood up to these guys.

• 1:18:18Patrick Bet-David?

  That doesn't guarantee the next guy is gonna be as tough as him. That doesn't guarantee how American people are gonna react to Vance. Or Rubio.

• 1:18:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Yup.

• 1:18:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Or all these other guys. Newsom's gonna be formidable. AOC is gonna be formidable. Kamala Harris, the worst candidate in the history of my lifetime. I've never met a candidate more annoying and unattractive than Kamala. Kamala's like the girl you went on a date with. And you're sitting when she walks up, it's a blind date. And you're sitting there, you're like, oh my god, she is hot until she opens her mouth. And you, you, you look at the waiter and you're trying to give all the signals to say, you know how, please save me. Please.

• 1:19:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Pour hot tea on my lap.

• 1:19:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Save me.

• 1:19:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me there's a phone call at the front. Say there's an emergency, I'm needed. Please, have a fight accidentally break out so I can jump in it and get arrested.

• 1:19:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Pull the fire alarm, please.

• 1:19:19Patrick Bet-David?

  But whatever you do, get me the hell away from this candidate here.

• 1:19:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:22Patrick Bet-David?

  That was Kamala. If I saw Kamala on TV, it, it was painful, right?

• 1:19:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Hmm.

• 1:19:27Patrick Bet-David?

  But if Democrats think Gavin Newsom is not gonna, he doesn't have a high likelihood of becoming a president, it's very, very high, very high.

• 1:19:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Did you see Kamala this weekend declared that she was the single most qualified person for president ever?

• 1:19:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I think the more she does that, the more Newsom wins.

• 1:19:43Tom Ellsworth?

  That was about, that's exactly what I was saying. And she was on there really, not really challenged by, um, who's she on there with?

• 1:19:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Um, is this the one?

• 1:19:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Yup.

• 1:19:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 1:19:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, Kara Swisher, go ahead.

• 1:19:54Speaker 18

  That is a decent, that is a decent resume, but go ahead. But there.

• 1:20:00Speaker 18

  Well, some people have actually said I'm, I was the most qualified candidate ever to run for president.

• 1:20:05Speaker 11

  Oh my god.

• 1:20:08Speaker 11

  Is that vodka?

• 1:20:10Speaker 18

  I like just, I like the some people say, very nice, but go ahead.

• 1:20:14Patrick Bet-David?

  People are saying.

• 1:20:15Speaker 18

  Speaking of fact, yeah.

• 1:20:16Speaker 11

  But you know, but you know what drives me?

• 1:20:17Tom Ellsworth?

  But you know what? I think if.

• 1:20:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I hope she's the candidate.

• 1:20:20Speaker 11

  Me too.

• 1:20:21Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, I'm, listen to me, guys, Republicans. And conservatives and libertarians, just watch, please. Just let's speak. Let's all get behind her.

• 1:20:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's all get behind her. No, no, I'm telling you. Let's, let's all get behind her. And just build her up to get past the primaries. And then let her do her thing all over again. Because, you know, y- y- you, you thank God upstairs if Hillary or Kamala run. You hope they run. Hope. You ask AOC a question, she can give you a nice answer.

• 1:21:04Speaker 11

  Of course.

• 1:21:04Patrick Bet-David?

  It's gotten better over the years. I mean, she was a rookie congresswoman coming in, but guess what? She can really put something together, okay? You ask her a question.

• 1:21:13Speaker 11

  Oh, man.

• 1:21:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You ask Hillary Clinton a question, you know, you need like 20 security guards around you to make sure if you're, you're, you're, you know.

• 1:21:20Speaker 11

  You don't want to suicide or something.

• 1:21:22Patrick Bet-David?

  You, you, it's a very different thing, but I think in 2028, as we're going through this next process, I don't think Republicans have 2028 guaranteed in lockdown.

• 1:21:30Tom Ellsworth?

  But, but. I have an idea. I can be her campaign manager. I have an idea. How about this? Kamala, point two eight.

• 1:21:36Speaker 11

  So funny. But I, I honestly think.

• 1:21:39Adam Sosnick?

  Let me ask you guys a question.

• 1:21:41Speaker 11

  What?

• 1:21:41Adam Sosnick?

  Because you want to get behind Kamala, right?

• 1:21:43Speaker 11

  Yeah.

• 1:21:44Adam Sosnick?

  If you had to pick the president, the next president of the United States, it's not a Republican, it's not Trump, it's not J.D. Vance, it's not Marco Rubio, had to be one of these three people. Had to be. You know how you play Mary F.

• 1:21:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Go, go. And I'm going to give you my name. And I don't say it yet.

• 1:21:59Speaker 11

  Go.

• 1:22:01Adam Sosnick?

  AOC, Hillary Clinton. You know, you know how to play Mary F.K.? You know that game?

• 1:22:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I would choose Hillary.

• 1:22:09Speaker 11

  Hillary.

• 1:22:09Adam Sosnick?

  You would choose Hillary.

• 1:22:11Speaker 11

  Out of those three?

• 1:22:12Adam Sosnick?

  Correct.

• 1:22:13Speaker 11

  Hillary.

• 1:22:13Adam Sosnick?

  Cool. Got it. Tom, do you have a different pick?

• 1:22:17Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, if you're going to play F.K.M., it's got to be Hillary.

• 1:22:20Adam Sosnick?

  This guy. So we're on the same page. Hillary, cool, boom. But she, I don't think she's running now. Between Kamala and AOC, who do you pick?

• 1:22:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Costa Rica.

• 1:22:32Adam Sosnick?

  Kamala AOC.

• 1:22:34Speaker 11

  Well, you know, you know if you pick Kamala.

• 1:22:35Adam Sosnick?

  To be the President of the United States in 2028.

• 1:22:38Speaker 11

  Yeah.

• 1:22:39Adam Sosnick?

  You have to vote for one.

• 1:22:40Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a bad game.

• 1:22:41Adam Sosnick?

  It's a horrible game.

• 1:22:42Speaker 11

  It's a horrible game.

• 1:22:43Adam Sosnick?

  It's a horrible game. Who do you pick?

• 1:22:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I am, I am.

• 1:22:46Adam Sosnick?

  Who do you pick?

• 1:22:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I am refusing to play this game.

• 1:22:48Adam Sosnick?

  No, PBD.

• 1:22:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Between those two, I'm sitting it out.

• 1:22:51Speaker 11

  Are you ready for this?

• 1:22:52Adam Sosnick?

  You ready?

• 1:22:52Patrick Bet-David?

  But I, but I tell you, but I tell you, honestly.

• 1:22:54Adam Sosnick?

  Can I give you my pick?

• 1:22:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Honestly, it would probably be AOC.

• 1:22:57Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, no, really?

• 1:22:59Patrick Bet-David?

  It would probably be AOC.

• 1:23:00Speaker 11

  Over Kamala Harris? Because you know what's gonna happen? The same people that were telling Joe Biden, the real presidents, the Obamas that were behind them, they're, they're running the show.

• 1:23:08Adam Sosnick?

  Guys.

• 1:23:09Speaker 11

  And again.

• 1:23:09Patrick Bet-David?

  You know why it would say AOC? You want me to tell you why AOC?

• 1:23:12Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I'd love to hear it, yes.

• 1:23:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Because if Kamala becomes president, Kamala's not president. She's not smart.

• 1:23:18Speaker 11

  Thank you.

• 1:23:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:23:19Speaker 11

  She ain't running the show.

• 1:23:20Patrick Bet-David?

  She's not, she's not smart. If AOC becomes president, she's at least gonna clean up some of the, what do you call it? The, uh, I like, I truly believe she's a true believer when it comes on to the Nancy Pelosi stuff. I do believe she has, you know, true belief in certain areas. I don't know what Kamala Harris believes in.

• 1:23:39Adam Sosnick?

  So.

• 1:23:39Speaker 11

  She does.

• 1:23:40Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, believe me, I'm okay.

• 1:23:41Tom Ellsworth?

  That, you know, that's a really good point. It's like, what do you believe they will actually do and have?

• 1:23:46Adam Sosnick?

  So would you rather have a puppet?

• 1:23:47Tom Ellsworth?

  The coalition and the juice to do it.

• 1:23:48Adam Sosnick?

  Or a socialist?

• 1:23:49Tom Ellsworth?

  That, wait, Pat's bringing up a, a great processing point. Even if you don't like the candidate, what do you believe they can actually get accomplished and have the coalition and the juice to do it? AOC, I agree with Pat. I think she'll get some of these things.

• 1:24:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Who do you think can be bullied more? Kamala or, or, or AOC? Who do you think can be owned? Kamala or AOC?

• 1:24:08Speaker 11

  Kamala.

• 1:24:09Adam Sosnick?

  Come on.

• 1:24:10Speaker 11

  Kamala's own.

• 1:24:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. What I'm, what I'm trying to say. What I'm trying to say is that.

• 1:24:14Speaker 11

  Bulled, bludgeoned and banged.

• 1:24:15Adam Sosnick?

  No way, guys.

• 1:24:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:16Adam Sosnick?

  No way.

• 1:24:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, that's why.

• 1:24:18Adam Sosnick?

  So.

• 1:24:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You have conversations.

• 1:24:21Adam Sosnick?

  Both of them have the most annoying voices ever, so let's not discount that.

• 1:24:24Speaker 11

  Not, not Kamala level?

• 1:24:26Adam Sosnick?

  I think AOC's voice is more annoying.

• 1:24:27Speaker 11

  Okay.

• 1:24:27Adam Sosnick?

  That's my opinion.

• 1:24:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Have you seen her in the last year? The way she's speaking, the way she's moderating? AOC is different.

• 1:24:32Adam Sosnick?

  Let's just state facts here.

• 1:24:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Formidable candidate.

• 1:24:35Adam Sosnick?

  She's been a senator, she's been a vice president, she's been a drunk borders czar. So great, there we go. What the hell has AOC ever done in her career, other than hang out in the Bronx?

• 1:24:45Speaker 11

  But those are just titles, Adam.

• 1:24:47Adam Sosnick?

  Communism.

• 1:24:47Speaker 11

  How did Kamala?

• 1:24:48Adam Sosnick?

  What has AOC ever done?

• 1:24:49Speaker 11

  How did Kamala get to Congress?

• 1:24:51Adam Sosnick?

  If AOC didn't look like a Latina six, would we even pretend even who she was?

• 1:24:54Tom Ellsworth?

  They managed to get the Green New Deal in there and get certain things screwed with the energy industry.

• 1:24:59Adam Sosnick?

  AOC has never done anything in her life.

• 1:25:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I want you to stay like this. By the way, I want you to stay in this mode for three years, so Kamala becomes a candidate.

• 1:25:07Speaker 11

  Yes.

• 1:25:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I want you to defend her like this.

• 1:25:09Adam Sosnick?

  Kamala is the most accomplished president nominee in American history.

• 1:25:14Speaker 11

  You named three accolades.

• 1:25:15Adam Sosnick?

  So you were one of those people.

• 1:25:16Speaker 11

  How did she get into Congress? Let's talk about her mayor friend, hold on. How did she become the vice president? What did she do?

• 1:25:25Adam Sosnick?

  How did AOC get there?

• 1:25:26Speaker 11

  All those things that you said, but hold on. AOC didn't know people that were mayors and no.

• 1:25:30Adam Sosnick?

  AOC hasn't done anything, she's a representative.

• 1:25:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me get to this next story. I'm not spending this much time on this story, I'm gonna go to the next one. Vance is the frontrunner for 2028. Rubio privately confides, Rob, if you want to play this clip, in regards to who is the presidential candidate, frontrunner for 2028 for the Republican Party. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:25:50Speaker 19

  This great Politico article that came out today, where it talks about Secretary Rubio privately talking about and expecting Vice President Vance to be the 2028 GOP nominee. And obviously, there's been a lot of talks already on who would it be, maybe the frontrunner? Would it be Vance? Would it be Rubio? The figure would be that they would both try to run for. But let's now talk to Politico right here. One of the reporters on the story, great article, Diana Nerosi with Politico. Always great to have you on. And yeah, I thought this was a fascinating look at how President Trump,

• 1:26:30Speaker 19

  not even a year into this second administration, and there's already Johnny.

• 1:26:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, I can't do that anymore. So Marco has been very clear on that JD is going to be the Republican nominee if he wants to be, said the person close to the secretary, noting that Rubio has expressed sentiment privately and publicly. He will do anything he can just to support the vice president in that effort, said the person close to Rubio, who was granted anonymity to share the secretary of state's private conversations. And no one expects Marco to resign from the cabinet and start taking potshots at the vice president. So.

• 1:27:04Patrick Bet-David?

  That's kind of where you're at with this. Are you, are you at a, are you at a point, Tom? Like, is there an outsider for you as well, outside of JD or Rubio? Is anybody else as an outsider for Republican for 2028?

• 1:27:14Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I think there will be outsiders that try to run. Because you, you elevate your, your presence for other considerations. Many people think Pete Buttigieg did exactly that. Elevated himself so that he would be, you know, drawn into the mix. And then he was Secretary of Transportation. So, I believe there will be outsiders trying to run. But I don't think there will be serious campaigns and they will, I think they'll be there to elevate their presence. Get a little forward. Now, do I think that people like MTG are serious? And it's going to be a distraction and it's going to take well past South Carolina?

• 1:27:57Tom Ellsworth?

  To figure out how we make a coalition? Yeah, I think that's going to be a problem. But I also believe that the Republicans are smart enough right now. And what you're hearing from Rubio, I believe, is this, is, hey Marco, you have really stepped it up. Foreign policy, just check the box. You look far more mature, check the box. You got the support of the big guy, check the box. You've got wins in foreign policy, check the box. Do you want to go? We were behind you all for the Senate years, we're there. You have to remember, he's got a coalition that got into Senate in the state of Florida. And he would probably carry, he would definitely carry Florida. And so, it's Rubio probably saying, you know what?

• 1:28:37Tom Ellsworth?

  The machine is really thinking Vance. I'm not sure I want to throw my fingers into the gears of the machine. But I think there might be outsiders, but it'll be very temporary. You know, there's always 20 people that show up in New Hampshire. And everybody in New Hampshire gets free coffee for five weeks because the candidates are buying you coffee to come to Starbucks and hear what they say. I think there'll be outsiders there, but I think they'll come and go quick and the Republicans will

• 1:29:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Que pasos venían.

• 1:29:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Call order.

• 1:29:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Que pasos venían.

• 1:29:05Speaker 11

  Like, because everything that you've been saying with Gavin and all these guys and all the kind of fighting with the Republicans and stuff, I honestly, if an election happened right now, I honestly don't think any of these guys would be able to be Gavin. And I'm not saying that happily, I'm just saying because the left just votes on feeling. These are the Hitlers and this whole Gestapo's Nazis gonna keep going. They take children away from their families.

• 1:29:32Tom Ellsworth?

  That's a good thing. See how they feel in a couple of years.

• 1:29:34Speaker 11

  I get it, but Tom, I understand 100%, but that's how they're going to vote. People, the fact that you can cheer for Gavin Newsom with the resume that this guy has, Tom, if he was in charge of like the tour bus guy and his tour buses crashed and killed people and everything, they'd still vote for that guy? Because it's not the, it's not the Trump.

• 1:29:53Tom Ellsworth?

  He's a candidate, not a business guy. If he ran a funeral parlor, no one would die.

• 1:29:56Speaker 11

  Exactly.

• 1:29:57Tom Ellsworth?

  So, you know, that's the reality you've got there. But is he running a campaign? Does he know what he's doing? Yes, he does.

• 1:30:02Speaker 11

  Yes.

• 1:30:03Tom Ellsworth?

  And he's being effective.

• 1:30:04Speaker 11

  It's scary, because I know what's gonna happen with the border. But when it comes to like, I don't, whoever Donald Trump is going to back and endorse to become the next president, it's gonna be, it might be him or it might be Rubio. The question is, will Trump in three years still have that fire and that MAGA pushback to put them over the edge? Or is the Democrats, Gavin Newsom, gonna be like, no, they're negative?

• 1:30:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You guys still haven't given any outsider names?

• 1:30:32Speaker 11

  Tulsi Gabbard.

• 1:30:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Tulsi Gabbard.

• 1:30:34Speaker 11

  I would vote for, why are you squinting your head?

• 1:30:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, define outsider. What do you mean outsider?

• 1:30:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so to me, think Tucker, Massey, think Jamie Dimon, think, you know, Iger, think.

• 1:30:49Tom Ellsworth?

  On the Republican side?

• 1:30:51Patrick Bet-David?

  On the Republican side.

• 1:30:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Because I think most of those names, you just, or most of those names.

• 1:30:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Tucker?

• 1:30:56Speaker 11

  No.

• 1:30:57Tom Ellsworth?

  No, Tucker, Tucker.

• 1:30:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You think Jamie runs as a Democrat?

• 1:31:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, Tucker being outsider.

• 1:31:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You think Jamie runs as a, as a Republican or Democrat?

• 1:31:07Tom Ellsworth?

  If Jamie ever did it, I think honestly, he could only run as Ross Perot. Honestly. I think he's, I think he's that smart.

• 1:31:12Patrick Bet-David?

  You think there's anybody, you think there's anybody that's on the outside?

• 1:31:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Besides a Tucker? No. They, our draft pick has been assassinated.

• 1:31:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You think Tucker will? No question about it. Do you think Tucker will?

• 1:31:23Tom Ellsworth?

  No way. Nope.

• 1:31:25Speaker 11

  No.

• 1:31:26Patrick Bet-David?

  You said no way?

• 1:31:27Speaker 11

  I mean, listen.

• 1:31:28Tom Ellsworth?

  His dad was part of the machine, man. You know, he understands this stuff.

• 1:31:31Speaker 11

  I think we, didn't you ask him?

• 1:31:32Patrick Bet-David?

  That's why he wouldn't?

• 1:31:34Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I think that's why he may understand what it takes to do it.

• 1:31:38Speaker 11

  Like, meaning a call to action, like he has to do it?

• 1:31:40Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I mean, he, he, through his dad, he knows about the machine. He knows about what went on. Go take a look at all the things he was exposed to. So, and he sees it on Fox. He would know exactly what would take. And so if he makes a decision, he's knowledgeable. He's not making an emotional decision. He knows what he's getting into.

• 1:31:58Speaker 11

  Who do you think? Who do you think?

• 1:32:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know, but so I gave, I gave you guys a bunch of names.

• 1:32:04Speaker 11

  No, fantastic. I'm, mind you, when I say Tulsi, I see like poised, soldier.

• 1:32:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Ted Cruz?

• 1:32:11Speaker 11

  Oh, God, no. I don't think so.

• 1:32:13Tom Ellsworth?

  So, when you say inside, outside, what do you mean?

• 1:32:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I think he's running Cruz.

• 1:32:17Speaker 11

  So.

• 1:32:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Does he still have the desire? Yeah, but I think he's an insider, isn't he?

• 1:32:21Speaker 05

  I have a very close friend that's friends with Tucker and they were talking about a presidential run in 2028. If the guys at the back could not show this, I'd appreciate that. But for you guys, I wanted to show you. That was Tucker's response to him when he said, what about running in 2028? Tucker's message is the bottom one.

• 1:32:37Adam Sosnick?

  Basically, no chance in hell. Yeah, I agree.

• 1:32:40Tom Ellsworth?

  But read those last four letters.

• 1:32:41Adam Sosnick?

  Knows his position. He's never expressed any interest in running for president. It's, he's kind of like the Michelle Obama of the left. Oh, he could.

• 1:32:50Speaker 11

  Can I, can I, can I ask you one question before you, before you say anything?

• 1:32:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, he is a man.

• 1:32:53Speaker 11

  Let's say we're getting closer to 2028 election. He knows that the splintered Republican, it's going to be this guy, this guy, they're all different friends.

• 1:33:00Adam Sosnick?

  Tucker cannot win a general election.

• 1:33:01Speaker 11

  Hold on, hold on, hold on one second.

• 1:33:02Adam Sosnick?

  Tucker can barely get through a Republican primary, much less a general election.

• 1:33:05Speaker 11

  You don't think he could?

• 1:33:06Adam Sosnick?

  Let me tell you something. This is, PBD can, I would assume, agree. Because PBD has done this thing. There's levels to things. You could be the best high school basketball player, then you're, you're at the, you're at the end of the bench in college. You were the best player on your college team, and then you're at the end of the bench in the NBA. You could be the, one of the best players in the NBA, you're, you know, you could barely be a sixth man. There's different levels to this. The Republican Party has a Trump problem. There's nobody, nobody who can light a, hold a candle to Trump, nobody. J.D. Vance can't hold a candle to Trump, Marco Rubio, Tulsi Gabbard, Tucker. None of these people are Trump, they're all gonna have a Trump problem. On the left, completely wide open. This is probably gonna be the most wide open election in 2028.

• 1:33:46Patrick Bet-David?

  That's why I'm saying.

• 1:33:47Adam Sosnick?

  We're gonna have two primaries with 50 people on stage. It's anybody's game.

• 1:33:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm, I'm personally making a few phone calls for some outsider to get in. I think this is a very unique year.

• 1:33:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:59Patrick Bet-David?

  2028.

• 1:33:59Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:34:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm personally calling on a few people.

• 1:34:02Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:34:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And as we get closer, I'll be more public about it, but I'm personally gonna call on a few people for 2028. Post midterms, let's let midterms be done and then, and then we'll be, we'll be nominating some people and doing some, uh,

• 1:34:15Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:34:15Patrick Bet-David?

  But, you know, reaching out.

• 1:34:17Speaker 11

  If I have to go, I have to go, I have to do it.

• 1:34:19Adam Sosnick?

  Anybody with a representative in front of their name, representative fill in the blank, has approximately zero chance of doing anything in any type of election.

• 1:34:28Speaker 11

  Can I ask you a question?

• 1:34:29Adam Sosnick?

  General election.

• 1:34:29Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a challenge, folks, if you're listening.

• 1:34:31Adam Sosnick?

  Go ahead. Andre Taylor Greene, AOC.

• 1:34:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Do not let Adam talk to you like this.

• 1:34:35Speaker 11

  Do you think a Tucker, do you think a Tucker's the type of guy that, once he sees the writing on the wall, it's like, oh my God, somebody like Gavin Newsom is going to be the president, he wouldn't say, I have to do this.

• 1:34:46Adam Sosnick?

  Tucker ain't that dude, bro. Tucker ain't Superman.

• 1:34:48Speaker 11

  No, I didn't say Superman.

• 1:34:49Adam Sosnick?

  Tucker gonna put a cape on and be like, I got you, guys.

• 1:34:51Speaker 11

  Adam, I didn't say Superman, I said he had.

• 1:34:52Adam Sosnick?

  He ain't that dude.

• 1:34:54Tom Ellsworth?

  I either wanna hear Pat process this, or let's just make it Israel's fault and fight for real, right? This was one of the two things here.

• 1:35:00Adam Sosnick?

  That who would do what?

• 1:35:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's either, I either wanna hear Pat process it, or let's just bring Israel into this and go nuts and fight for five minutes for real.

• 1:35:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so let's, let's.

• 1:35:08Adam Sosnick?

  Is that what you wanna do?

• 1:35:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, let's go to this, alright, so.

• 1:35:12Speaker 11

  I hear them laughing.

• 1:35:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Mira, listen.

• 1:35:14Adam Sosnick?

  Get my soap.

• 1:35:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, Denmark, folks, here's what Denmark is doing. Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15. Freaking love that.

• 1:35:26Speaker 11

  I'm not mad at that at all.

• 1:35:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:35:29Speaker 20

  ...with 14 points about how to protect minors better online. We're standing in a situation in Denmark where far too many young people, far too many children are having a profile on a big social media platform. We have agreed on an age limit on 15 years of age, but with the opportunity for parents to consent from the age of 13 if they want their children and young people to be on the social media platform.

• 1:36:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, be quiet in the back.

• 1:36:04Speaker 20

  To the parents is, please don't have your children on these social media platforms before the age of 15. Well, we are not regulating based on specific companies.

• 1:36:15Patrick Bet-David?

  In Denmark, do they not know when somebody else is speaking? Like, I'd be like, yo, shut up. What do you think about pause there, quick? Do you like that tiger shirt, Adam? Is that a tiger thing or what is that?

• 1:36:27Adam Sosnick?

  Leopard. Women like wearing cheetah colors. Women like wearing this type of outfit.

• 1:36:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Speaking to Associated Press, Caroline Stage, Denmark's Minister for Digital Affairs, said 94% of Danish children under the age of 13 have profiles on at least one social media platform, more than half of those under 10 do so. So, Rob, run a poll. Run a poll, do you, I don't know if it's run a poll, do, uh, okay, so put one, should kids be able to have social media? One option at any age. Another option at 13. Another 15, then put the last one at 18. Let's see what our audience votes. I'm actually really curious. Tom, what do you think about this?

• 1:37:12Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it's common sense coming forward because there's, um, look, you can argue about social media all day long, you can argue about governments. New Zealand got it right. Remember during COVID, actually, New Zealand raised its hand and said, hey, we want to put limits on social media for kids? There are two, actually, three avenues that you can look at very, very clearly and you can be fact-based, and that is exactly what, at least in this case, uh, Carlin Stage, or Stage, from Denmark, I think it's Stage, I believe it's pronounced that way there, that...

• 1:37:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Kids being approached by pedophiles, kids being approached for relationship, number one. Number two, the girls and depression and girls and responses to you need the likes and you need all this to be validated and through that lack of validation brings depression and bad behavior in girls. The studies are out, the studies are clear, and Facebook, Meta admitted it to Congress that they had done those things to hook the girls and to cause this. So you have Facebook admitting it. And then the last thing that you have also that you can look to is test scores and education of kids in middle school who have access to social media.

• 1:38:31Tom Ellsworth?

  So now Denmark is saying, hey, parents, if you want to go through an assessment, and the parents have to fill out an assessment, which my understanding is basically, are you married? Are you involved in your kids? And then you could say, my kid could have a profile at 13 if I sign the assessment. Or they can't have it until 15 because they're just looking at the facts. They're just looking at those three simple facts. So I think it's common sense, Pat. I think it's absolute common sense, finally, the people are looking at it. You can see in theaters, did you see theaters? We go to the thing, did you see the Dove soap commercial where the moms and the young women are talking about, you know, about, you know, Dove soap is pure and it says you

• 1:39:15Tom Ellsworth?

  need to have pure friends and pure truth. You don't need to have all the social media. You are validated in who you are and all of that. Why is that all happening? And Denmark, I think, is doing the right thing here and they're following New Zealand. And I think when you take a look, you know, in the US, why hasn't, why hasn't anybody from Congress brought this up? After all the things that happened in Congress, and I'm not out here to bash social media companies or tech bros, but you admitted certain things in Congress. So why isn't the US put similar restrictions in place, especially when we have the data on pedophilia? We have the data on girls under 16 in depression, and we have the data on test scores. We have data.

• 1:39:57Tom Ellsworth?

  So with all these data, it's not one data point, and then you try to make, you know, I'm not running for Congress and I throw up one stat out there and I try to make a story out of it. You've got a list of stats here. So hats off to Denmark, hats off to Caroline Stage, or Stage, I think it's pronounced Stage, Denmark Minister for

• 1:40:15Adam Sosnick?

  Might be Strong J.

• 1:40:16Tom Ellsworth?

  So yeah.

• 1:40:17Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think, though? What do you think? Rob, the poll is showing what? Almost 4,000 people voted. Look at the poll.

• 1:40:23Adam Sosnick?

  Very interesting.

• 1:40:24Patrick Bet-David?

  At 18 years old, 52%.

• 1:40:26Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. I agree with our audience on this one, by the way. By the way, 3% of our audience is an absolute psychopath. Absolute psychopath. Any age, yeah. Go for it, 4-year-old.

• 1:40:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Take this phone, you idiot.

• 1:40:38Adam Sosnick?

  Let me tell you something, PBD, I love what you said.

• 1:40:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Did we tell them we cooked that?

• 1:40:41Adam Sosnick?

  When you were being interviewed by Bret Baer at the American Business Forum, which was an amazing event, shout out to Mayor Francis Suarez for helping put that on. But you talked about the anxious generation. You have four kids, Tico, Dilly, two girls. You know, you're very, very in this world. You know, me, Rory, my nephew, just turned 13 yesterday. I said, what do you want for your birthday? He's like, well, I'm thinking about maybe getting a new phone. I said, I'm gonna talk to your dad, my brother-in-law, my sister's husband. I said, guys, do we want Rory? He's like the sweetest, nicest kid, tall as hell.

• 1:41:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Massive. Happy birthday to him.

• 1:41:14Adam Sosnick?

  Happy birthday, Rory.

• 1:41:15Patrick Bet-David?

  He had giant hands.

• 1:41:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Good handshake.

• 1:41:18Adam Sosnick?

  Him and Tico shook hands. I go, let's see who's stronger. Tico goes, he's got him, bro. And Tico's a strong kid. I said, what do we want to do with this guy, man? He's the sweetest kid. Do we want him having a cellphone with social media? We all said, hell no. Hell no. There's a difference between Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok versus, hey, I wanna watch something on YouTube.

• 1:41:38Adam Sosnick?

  Youtube is just like a world encyclopedia. So there's a difference to this. If you can go back to that poll, Rob. I think there's steps to where you do. Whoever's saying any kid could just watch whatever they want.

• 1:41:48Patrick Bet-David?

  3%.

• 1:41:48Adam Sosnick?

  Psychopath, reevaluate your life. At 13, you should be able to go on to Youtube, do some research, see what's out there.

• 1:41:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Have a phone just to call your parents and stuff like that.

• 1:41:56Adam Sosnick?

  Between 15 and 18 is where these conversations, in my opinion. When do you want to do this? This thing is the most dangerous and also the most amazing thing that any man is, as any human has ever had.

• 1:42:08Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a catch 22.

• 1:42:08Adam Sosnick?

  And you're gonna put that in the hand of a 10-year-old or 12-year-old? Let me give you a counterargument. I have a good friend, I'm not gonna say his name, he has two kids. One of his kids is maybe nine years old. This kid does not come up for oxygen if he has a phone. He is knee-deep in this. He has a Youtube channel, he's concerned about likes, clicks, videos. It's genuinely sad. I said, "Hey buddy, you're at the dinner table, I did your rule. You're at the dinner table, put it down." He goes, "You're not my dad." I go, "Dad, tell him." He goes, "Put the phone down." He goes, "No." The kid is so obsessed with his phone. And my concern is, how many millions of other kids are just like that?

• 1:42:53Adam Sosnick?

  We talk about anxious generation. Yeah, we talk about anxious generation. What about a generation of kids who this is all they know? They can't do this.

• 1:43:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:02Adam Sosnick?

  That's concerning to me.

• 1:43:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, in a big way, in a big way. So, the poll, again, I'm surprised, Rob, the poll is like, 5,000 people voted. 53% said at 18.

• 1:43:14Adam Sosnick?

  I agree with our audience, they're smart people, they've never done us wrong.

• 1:43:17Patrick Bet-David?

  53% at age 18. That's, that's some, uh... There is hope. Do you think that...

• 1:43:25Adam Sosnick?

  Where would you be on this, Diddy?

• 1:43:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm pretty close to that.

• 1:43:27Adam Sosnick?

  You're there.

• 1:43:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm, I'm not, I'm not...

• 1:43:29Adam Sosnick?

  You're at least at 15 to 18.

• 1:43:30Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, I'm, I'm at 18. I'm at 18 because...

• 1:43:33Adam Sosnick?

  So what do you do at 18, say, "Here's your phone, here's your account?"

• 1:43:35Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I'm, I'm, I've been managing all their accounts since the day they were born. I've been managing their accounts, it's all me, if you ever see anything with their accounts. I manage all of it, I see all the DMs, I do all of it. So if you DM my kids, you're DMing me, okay? So don't DM my kid. Well, now you're gonna get business propositions. Hey, Patrick DDD on Brooklyn.

• 1:43:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, Vinny, can I close this out with a question for you? Do you think five years ago, before congressional testimony, COVID and everything we saw and what we realized about social media and what New Zealand did, do you think that's 54% five years ago?

• 1:44:10Speaker 11

  Absolutely not.

• 1:44:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct. I agree with you. What has happened? Data and facts. What this tells me, when I see things like this on the lightning rod issue, it tells me there's hope for the California voter.

• 1:44:22Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to this one. Guess what? President wants to send you $2,000. He says he'll issue $2,000 tariff dividends to all except high income earning people. Rob, has that been announced or no that he's gonna be doing that? Is that a?

• 1:44:33Speaker 05

  He announced it yesterday. I have.

• 1:44:35Patrick Bet-David?

  He announced it yesterday? So let me read this to you. For some of you guys, if you haven't received it yet, on what 800 number to call? President Donald Trump on Sunday gave his cell phone number to call for the $2,000 tariffs payments that at any point you can text them. That's a joke, folks. I'm not giving you his phone number. Claimed the dividend check of at least $2,000 will be paid to Americans except for high income earners, saying the country is now wealthy as a result of its tariff policies. People that are against tariffs are fools. We are now the richest, most respected country in the world with almost no inflation and a record stock market. 401ks are higher than ever. We are taking in trillions of dollars and soon we'll be beginning paying down our enormous 37 trillion dollar debt.

• 1:45:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Record investment, the US plants and factories are going all over the place. A dividend of at least $2,000 a person, not including high income people, will be paid to everyone. I wonder when? Can I give a guess on when I think the payment will be made? When has the midterms? October of 2026.

• 1:45:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Right before the midterm.

• 1:45:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, exactly. Smart. In an ABC interview this week on Sunday, Treasury Secretary Scott Beson said that he has not spoken to the president about the proposed dividend. The $2,000 dividend could come in a lot of forms and a lot of ways. Beson told anchor Stephanopoulos, you know, it could be just the tax decreases that are, we're going to see in the president's agenda. And, you know, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on social security, deductibility of auto loans. Tom, how important is this, Tom?

• 1:46:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think it's very important and I think, you know, people that want to call that number 1-800-86-NANCY. Well, to put their name on the list, you know. I think it's stepping back a minute. I think it's important because he said there's going to be a benefit for all Americans. And I don't think this is George McGovern's hundred dollar, you know, trick that didn't work. I don't think this is the stimulus package that Biden put out where he basically printed money and don't throw the comments out. I know we don't print anymore, but issuing digital currency. I think this is real and I think he's trying to help people and I think he's throwing in that little

• 1:46:51Tom Ellsworth?

  bit, but not the people that are over wealthy. You don't need that. This is for the people.

• 1:46:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's hear what Mr. Besen has to say. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:46:57Speaker 21

  His main argument though seems to be that it's about taking in the revenue and he also promised this morning, a dividend, a dividend of at least $2,000 a person, not including high income people. How is he going to pay that dividend of $2,000 a person?

• 1:47:10Speaker 22

  It's not about taking in the revenue. It's about rebalancing. And the revenue occurs early on and then as we rebalance and the jobs come home, then it becomes domestic tax revenue.

• 1:47:23Speaker 21

  Are you worried that the president's focus on revenue though, which is what he's been focusing on in his public statements, is going to hurt your argument at the Supreme Court?

• 1:47:30Speaker 22

  Not at all. It's completely consistent that the revenues come in at the beginning, then as we rebalance, which is the goal of this, bring back high paid manufacturing jobs to the US, then it will then morph into domestic tax revenues. You know, President Trump has consistently fought for the American worker and we are seeing trillions of investments in the US that would not have occurred without the tariffs. The other thing too is, you know, the authority that he uses is called AIPA. It is an emergency authority and he used that emergency authority. He got the Chinese to the table to negotiate on stopping the

• 1:48:12Speaker 22

  precursors for fentanyl drugs. If fentanyl, hundreds of thousands of Americans dying every year is not an emergency, what is? On October 8th, Chinese threatened export controls.

• 1:48:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So do you think good idea, bad idea, send $2,000?

• 1:48:28Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it's a good idea.

• 1:48:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me why it's a good idea.

• 1:48:31Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it's a good idea because.

• 1:48:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that buying votes though?

• 1:48:37Tom Ellsworth?

  I think lowering taxes is buying votes.

• 1:48:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You almost beat Adam on the pause.

• 1:48:41Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I think, yeah, I think, is it, any, anything a politician does can be said to be buying votes, but there's fair ways to do it and there's not fair ways to do it.

• 1:48:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Cause that's what they're gonna criticize him for. They're gonna say like, you know, he's just, and all these years, they made fun of what Democrats do, that all they do is buy his votes, and then at the end of the day, that's what Republicans did.

• 1:49:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, you go on TV with George Suckin' Optopus and, you know, you know, you're gonna get that response. You're gonna get that response from...

• 1:49:09Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, you're really going low today.

• 1:49:11Tom Ellsworth?

  No, it doesn't matter what you do. It's gonna be, you're gonna get hit either way, you know? It's, you do it and you're buying votes. You don't do it and you're, you don't care about the little guy. That's the way it's gonna be spun. It's gonna be spun.

• 1:49:25Speaker 11

  Little, but by the way, I don't, how does Stephanopoulos even have a jo, like, if, if you were sued for however many million dollars...

• 1:49:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's an expiration date on his career.

• 1:49:33Speaker 11

  Okay, because I would've been like, yo, bro, you're not gonna be in front of the camera.

• 1:49:36Tom Ellsworth?

  No, you just keep watching. You keep watching. It's not gonna be tomorrow. It's not gonna be this year, but he's another one of these guys with the big contracts that are getting truncated. And the contracts are gonna be lower or he's not gonna be in the chair. Mark my words. You know what? Tag this and let's go 1231 of next year and go see what has happened.

• 1:49:54Speaker 11

  Okay.

• 1:49:55Tom Ellsworth?

  And I'm gonna show you what's happened in the media landscape. You wait and see. Allen Conference is coming.

• 1:49:59Speaker 11

  Can't wait.

• 1:50:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

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• 1:51:03Adam Sosnick?

  What do you think?

• 1:51:03Speaker 11

  That was another pause. You're about to go Biden's bill again.

• 1:51:06Adam Sosnick?

  Sorry, my brain is functioning.

• 1:51:08Speaker 11

  You're gonna start shaking hands.

• 1:51:09Adam Sosnick?

  I'm telling you, my brain is not functioning normally today. I'm going...

• 1:51:13Speaker 11

  You're gonna be unearned by what could have been.

• 1:51:15Adam Sosnick?

  Do I think that they should send $2,000 stimulus checks to people? Hell, no. You know how much money they spend to send to people? Zero. Absolutely zero. Stop giving people money. Stop printing more money. It doesn't work. It's never worked. These stimmy checks where you're sending people 500 bucks, 1,400 bucks, 3,000 bucks. You're making the country broke and you're making broke people feel somewhat wealthy for about five seconds. And then they go spend that money and it circulates back to the economy. And that broke person who doesn't know how to spend their money stays broke. And the money flows where? Up or down, PPD? Flows to the top. Stop printing money. Zero. The COVID stuff, $5 trillion.

• 1:52:00Adam Sosnick?

  The CARES Act, the TARP, the American Rescue Plan. Enough with giving people money. It's not about buying votes. It's about we're 37 fricking trillion dollars in debt. And you want to give every American 2,000 bucks?

• 1:52:13Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's the challenge.

• 1:52:13Adam Sosnick?

  Save that money, idiots. We're not giving you any more money.

• 1:52:15Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's the challenge. The challenge with that is, as great of a, you know, a common sense message it is, I get it. This is the challenge right now. And I, I, I... Challenge is, you've already brainwashed everybody into where we are today with the debt system. Right after we got off the gold, it's where we are today. This is America. Right? This is the new America with debt. For somebody to come in to want to pay off the 37 trillion dollars of debt... You almost have to be a five-term president.

• 1:52:58Patrick Bet-David?

  You need 20 years.

• 1:52:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Trump 40, 20, 45.

• 1:53:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You need, you need, you need 20 years to be able to put that together. So let's just say you save the money, next guys come in, they spend the money. And then they win. We're gonna give you free. We're gonna, you know, the lower, we're gonna give you free. We're gonna, we're gonna give you free. And it's like the back and forth, and you know what happens every single time? Debt increases, whether it's a Republican or Democrat. It's not like, now, the difference here is, this tariff thing is so sexy to me. Let me tell you, it's so exciting and sexy to me, because I think it's a real way for us to pay off some of that debt. That, that excites guys like me. But unfortunately,

• 1:53:41Patrick Bet-David?

  you know, i- i- i- if, if we were to get, Tom, if we were to get a land, okay? Real nice mountains, on the water, both sides. And you were giving us 10 million people, you know what we would do, Tom? We wouldn't allow everybody to vote. We, we wouldn't. We, we would, you would have, we would treat it like a company. Shareholders get to vote. Everybody else, you don't get to vote. Decisions are gonna be made by people that contribute to society.

• 1:54:14Tom Ellsworth?

  For sure.

• 1:54:15Patrick Bet-David?

  That is the biggest problem we have in America, because common sense policies won't permanently win because the way you get to vote in America.

• 1:54:26Tom Ellsworth?

  I hope this doesn't upset you, but we should put the link to something you did, I think it's now seven years ago, which was in the analysis of who gets to vote and how many votes you get. You know, it, it was a lightning rod at the time, but maybe put the link in the comments here, people go back and look at that, because it talked about, hey, stakeholders and contributors, you vote.

• 1:54:45Patrick Bet-David?

  That's such an old video, Tom. It was, well, let me tell you, if I put that up there, um... Here's what I made. Rob, we may put the unlisted version of it. Here's what we'll do. If for those of you guys that are on the PBD Podcast Circle, if you're in it, that video I don't think is...

• 1:55:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Is that it, Ben?

• 1:55:06Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's not. It's a different one. That's not. It's a different one. Rob, if you can, just text it to me. Text it to me if you can. No, that's a conversation that we had. But I'm gonna find an old, old, old one where, uh...

• 1:55:18Tom Ellsworth?

  You laid out the logic.

• 1:55:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I did, but it's gonna piss off so many people.

• 1:55:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Good.

• 1:55:23Speaker 11

  Not the people that read the logic.

• 1:55:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And remember, I shot this video April 15th of 2014.

• 1:55:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:55:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. This is how many years ago? 11 and a half years ago. And guess what jersey I'm wearing? How weird is this? Look at the jersey I'm wearing. This is like a... You know what jersey I'm wearing, Vinnie? Sabonis? No, I'm wearing a... Or Vito Sabonis? I'm wearing a... Donald Trump? I'm wearing a Yankees jersey.

• 1:55:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow, I love it.

• 1:55:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, forecasting. Look at this.

• 1:55:48Speaker 11

  I love it.

• 1:55:50Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what? I'm gonna post it, Rob. I'm gonna post this in...

• 1:55:54Tom Ellsworth?

  It was April 15th, right?

• 1:55:55Patrick Bet-David?

  April 15th, yeah.

• 1:55:55Tom Ellsworth?

  And it was 4:00 in the afternoon after you'd written the check, so you're in kind of a bad mood.

• 1:56:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Me and Matt is like, "You better go earn the right, the damn vote." Uh, if you wanna see it, Rob, give them the link to the Circle, and I'm gonna put that link. I just wanna make sure we made it unlisted and not private. So I don't want it to be... I think it's an unlisted video. If Humberto's listening, Humberto, if you can make it unlisted, that will be great. And then just text me back the video. I'll text it to Humberto so he has it in his mind.

• 1:56:24Speaker 11

  Hey, Pat, just really fast about the tariffs, Tom. Like, you know how... Like, again, every single thing that the president has been trying to do, they have to oppose it. Every single thing, right? Even the tariffs, didn't they go to the Supreme Court? That they're trying to fight to reverse what he's doing and bringing in billions of dollars every single month? But you morons are out there like, "No, we don't. This is unconstitutional." And they're literally, I think November 5th, they heard oral arguments about it. They're trying to reverse the tariffs where this freaking guy is trying to make us money. What the hell is wrong with the... What's wrong with the Democrats?

• 1:57:01Tom Ellsworth?

  So let me see. The Democrats want the Supreme Court to say, "You didn't have the authority to do that." So the tariffs get pulled back, so the economy becomes really worse, and it goes from almost crap to complete crap in time for the elections next year. So tell me what you don't understand.

• 1:57:16Speaker 11

  Now that you clarify it like that, I'm good.

• 1:57:18Tom Ellsworth?

  That's the same. And by the way, and by the way, to 350 million of you, to hell with you guys. We're gonna get power.

• 1:57:24Speaker 11

  Yeah, exactly. So, good for you.

• 1:57:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, it's not a Rubik's Cube.

• 1:57:28Speaker 11

  No.

• 1:57:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna go to this next story. Vinnie, what do you know about this pipe bomber story? That doesn't add up. Can you tell us about the story?

• 1:57:33Speaker 11

  Are you ready for this? We're ready, Vinnie. It's been going, and again, you're not gonna see it mainstream media. It's not gonna be all over the place because you know who runs the mainstream media. So it's gonna be people like us on the PBD Podcast. Rob, I sent you two, there's two tweets, one by Thomas Massey. And one of the tweets, he says, "America is waking up today to learn that Capitol Police turned CIA orchestrated the pipe bombs on January 6th, and the FBI has covered it up for over four years. I questioned FBI Director Ray, ATF Director Dadelbach, and FBI Assistant Director over DC. The Antonel, under oath, all played dumb." And there's one more he posted, Robbie, and says, you might not, I mean, you might be able to find it.

• 1:58:15Speaker 11

  He goes, "This is the biggest scandal of my lifetime. Steve Baker did what an 11 billion dollar agency, the FBI, could not do, or worse yet, covered it up. He identified the January 6th bomber, and she, she wasn't working alone." Ready for this? Cash Patel needs to make a statement tomorrow when this breaks. So, Steve Baker, who works for The Blaze, he, he, he did reports of a Forensics Gait analysis, G A I T, which is technology used to compare a person's walking pattern. It produced a 94% match between the unidentified January 6th pipe bomb bomber, former Capitol Police Officer Shawnee Ray Kirkov, who served with the department until 2022, according to the report.

• 1:58:56Speaker 11

  This analysis came from internal video footage reviewed by investigative searches. So, Adam, somebody reviewed for god knows how long, the way this person was walking, there was moments where she allegedly was messing with her bra and stuff. The FBI's been searching for this person that put two live pipe bombs the night, night before the Capitol riot. Think about the timing, guys. One outside the RNC headquarters and one outside the DNC headquarters in Washington. Each device was actually real, equipped with a one-hour kitchen timer. Placed there on 8pm on January 5th. They were found just before and during the attack of the Capitol the following day. Now, think about this. The authorities believe the goal was planting these bombs at them to distract and divide law enforcement.

• 1:59:41Speaker 11

  Because think about it. They know the attack was coming. They're like, how do we divert cops to make sure this shit burns? Okay, that's what they did. Okay? Uh, so as of now, today, the FBI has, uh, the investigation remains open. There's a $500,000 reward for information leading to the arrest. Who, who's the person they showed? So, the, the, see that person on the left, they're alleging? No, no, you had faces on the screen a second ago. Who are those people? What do you mean?

• 2:00:05Speaker 05

  Oh, this tweet right here.

• 2:00:06Speaker 11

  Oh, that's, that's allegedly her. That person that you think? No, what do you mean? No, no, no, no, Adam, you're not paying attention. They're, uh, right now, they're saying that that on the outside, that's her. That's her. It took this long for an investigative journalist? Where is that person located today? She works for the CIA, well, allegedly she works for the CIA now. She was a Capitol Police member. Have they brought her in for questioning? No, Adam, no, no, no, nothing yet. What do you mean, they haven't brought her in for questioning? This just, uh, this just broke. Her name, Pat, is, um, I'm sorry, Shawnee, S-H-A-U-N-I, and then Kerkhoff. K-E-R-K-H-O-F-F. I believe she is a, um... And that's, and they're alleging that? It's all alleged, it's all Blaze. And that name has come out of multiple news outlets, right? This is a Blaze Media report.

• 2:00:50Speaker 11

  Did any of these pipe bombs go off? No, Adam, and that's the whole thing. That, it was, it was just, the, the actual bomb was real. But you know what they did, Adam? They wanted to distract, listen to me. They wanted to distract and get agents and cops and Capitol Police away from, from January 6th. Okay? So now, here's the thing. Yeah, from the Capitol, I'm sorry. So, think about it. Now, really break it down. Is it that far-fetched that they had informants everywhere in the, in the crowd? Pelosi is on camera, guys, on camera, saying, no, National Guard, I should have brought them, and I should have done this. And you mean to tell me, all these years later, with all the people they arrested, all the grandmothers, you can't find this person with all the geo-tracking and fencing and all that nonsense? So, again... So, Vinny, what's your point with this?

• 2:01:35Speaker 11

  My, my point is, Adam, this thing... That we've just let go. January 6th, January 6th was a setup from the beginning to the end to not only arrest all these uh, January 6th people, it was to make sure, this was one ploy, Adam.

• 2:01:49Adam Sosnick?

  Oh yeah.

• 2:01:50Speaker 11

  Never to let Trump get back into office. And if we go back from Russia collusion to the freaking impeachments, to shooting him in his head, to having another dude at the golf course that tried to, that wanted to assassinate him. When I say that these FBI, and just an FYI guys, um, John Brennan, Peter Struck, Lisa Page, they all just got another subpoena for their role, uh, by the way, this is the FBI, Adam. That's why, you know, when you talk about trusting all these people that are in the FBI. This agency from Comey and all these people have been so freaking corrupt and so weaponized. It's, it's unbelievable. And I think going back to Nancy Pelosi, I think one of the reasons she is stepping back, because obviously she's made all the money, she's implicated in all this.

• 2:02:34Speaker 11

  She's the one, she's one of the main ones that was like, nope, not National Guard, do all this. I believe Adam, they all knew, okay? That's why they were arresting grandmothers. They arrested people that weren't even at January 6th, because this was going to be their, I got you. He, he orchestrated a uh, insurrection and he'll never be able to run for the President of the United States. Cause in the constitution, Tom, is that the constitution that says if you have an insurrection towards the government?

• 2:03:01Tom Ellsworth?

  That's why, that's why all the media was told to use the word insurrection, because that's a word that was in the uh, constitution.

• 2:03:06Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, Vincent.

• 2:03:07Speaker 11

  Yes.

• 2:03:08Adam Sosnick?

  Did you see this other story about BBC?

• 2:03:10Speaker 11

  I, I love it, Pat, do you mind if I roll this story right into it, guys?

• 2:03:12Adam Sosnick?

  So let me, let me just read the title for you.

• 2:03:14Speaker 11

  Read the title.

• 2:03:15Adam Sosnick?

  The BBC is expected to apologize after using doctored footage of Trump's January 6th speech in documentary. Uh, they're expected to apologize after using a doctored footage. The mea culpa clip comes after Michael Prescott, the British network's former editorial guidelines and standards advisor, released a damning 19-page report alleging widespread bias within the organization, highlighting warnings he issued in May about the doctored speech. According to the outlet, do we have the difference of what they did? I think they spliced it.

• 2:03:48Speaker 11

  And just for a quick, quick, Adam.

• 2:03:49Adam Sosnick?

  Flipped it, ripped it upside down.

• 2:03:50Speaker 11

  A whistleblower inside the network revealed that the edit came uh, for, for a peaceful, Trump was saying be peaceful and patriotic, but they made it look like he was trying to incite violence.

• 2:04:00Adam Sosnick?

  Go ahead, play the clip, Rob.

• 2:04:02Speaker 23

  We're gonna walk down to the Capitol and I'll be there with you and we fight. We fight like hell.

• 2:04:11Adam Sosnick?

  So that, hold on, pause. That was the doctored clip.

• 2:04:14Speaker 11

  BBC doctored. What does it make it sound like? He's saying, guys, we're gonna go down there, we're gonna fight, we're gonna cause problems.

• 2:04:19Adam Sosnick?

  So play the original.

• 2:04:20Speaker 11

  This is the original.

• 2:04:22Speaker 23

  Walk down to the Capitol.

• 2:04:27Speaker 23

  And we're gonna cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women.

• 2:04:34Speaker 11

  Now, and guys, doesn't this...

• 2:04:36Adam Sosnick?

  So they added the fight like hell part from a different section.

• 2:04:40Speaker 11

  Yeah.

• 2:04:40Adam Sosnick?

  Edited it.

• 2:04:41Speaker 11

  Yep.

• 2:04:42Adam Sosnick?

  Sounds like somebody got some explaining to do. So, by the way, didn't Trump sue, I believe, 60 Minutes for the Kamala thing and win?

• 2:04:48Speaker 11

  This is comic.

• 2:04:49Adam Sosnick?

  Seventeen million dollars, whatever it was.

• 2:04:51Tom Ellsworth?

  The Trump library is basically funded by media organizations.

• 2:04:55Adam Sosnick?

  Let me understand something.

• 2:04:57Speaker 11

  Go ahead.

• 2:04:57Adam Sosnick?

  Are you saying that the mainstream media has been lying and doctoring and editing? And been against Trump this entire time? Is that your claim?

• 2:05:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Have been tools of the FBI and insiders.

• 2:05:10Speaker 11

  And mind you, yes, Adam, this is BBC. This is another country's mainstream media. What are you getting off? What are you doing? Okay? And by the way, this is the same media. They twisted his Charlottesville thing when he tried to do the... They praised, it made it seem like he was praising the white supremacists, even though he was condemning them. By the way, let's not forget, okay, who BBC is. They're the same network that protected... We talked about this. Jimmy Savile, for decades, he was sexually abusing hundreds of victims, including children. Internal investigations showed that the producers and executives ignored and buried complaints just to protect the brand. That's the BBC. And Rob, you're gonna love this one.

• 2:05:48Adam Sosnick?

  BBC is like the MSNBC or the left-wing CNN of the UK. Is that right?

• 2:05:53Speaker 11

  This is the same BBC that on 9/11...

• 2:05:56Tom Ellsworth?

  And the MI6 megaphone, by the way.

• 2:05:57Speaker 11

  On 9/11, BBC... Can I finish what I'm saying? Please? What's happening? I'm trying to finish what I'm saying. The same BBC that on 9/11 went live and announced that Building Number 7 collapsed? All the time, it was still standing behind them and the reporter was Jane Stanley. I don't, I, I hope, I don't hope, I know it's gonna happen, that Trump goes after them because, mind you, this is connected to January 6. They wanted, they pulled... Support away from the Capitol because they wanted it, Adam, they wanted pandemonium. They took peaceful people, they shot them with tear gas, they shot them with bullets. You had people like Ray Epps, who got a slap on the wrist misdemeanor, saying, we're going into

• 2:06:39Speaker 11

  the Capitol, we're going into the Capitol, and it failed, and it failed, and I hope they all get accountable, and whoever that Shawnee Ray Kirchhoff is, I hope they're doing an investigation right now to find.

• 2:06:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob just pulled this up, uh, good find, Rob, BBC to apologize deceptively, editing President Trump's January 6th speech in, in, in an effort to make it look like he encouraged violence, the apology letter is reportedly coming next week. Samir Shah, BBC chairman, will write to the Culture, Media and Sports Committee on Monday to express regret for the way the speech made on the day, January 6th, 2021, Capitol riot was spliced together. The Telegraph reported, BBC's Director General Tim Davie and Shah were both allegedly warned about the doctored footage in May, but decided to keep quiet.

• 2:07:20Speaker 11

  Wow.

• 2:07:20Patrick Bet-David?

  What?

• 2:07:21Speaker 11

  Wow.

• 2:07:21Adam Sosnick?

  Is Tim Davie the one that resigned?

• 2:07:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you pull up who these guys are, Rob?

• 2:07:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Who resigned last night? Somebody resigned.

• 2:07:28Speaker 11

  Yeah, I'll tell you who resigned. Davie, Tim, uh, yesterday, uh, BBC's Director General Tim Davie and new CEO Deborah Turnus resigned after controversy after the speech. This guy's bye-bye.

• 2:07:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Right, and so, so Davie resigns, and now they're going after the Shah.

• 2:07:44Adam Sosnick?

  The Shah.

• 2:07:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Won't be the first time they went after the Shah.

• 2:07:49Adam Sosnick?

  PBD.

• 2:07:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:51Adam Sosnick?

  They're issuing an apology as if they think it's gonna end there.

• 2:07:54Speaker 11

  No, it's definitely not.

• 2:07:55Adam Sosnick?

  Trump's gonna sue them, yes?

• 2:07:56Speaker 11

  Yeah. I would, I mean, you would sue.

• 2:07:59Adam Sosnick?

  He sued all these other outlets.

• 2:08:00Tom Ellsworth?

  That Trump library getting purtier and purtier.

• 2:08:02Speaker 11

  Sue everybody.

• 2:08:03Adam Sosnick?

  And by the way, he's probably gonna win.

• 2:08:05Speaker 11

  Yes, probably. This is proof. This is another couple million dollars.

• 2:08:10Adam Sosnick?

  Look, all these outlets that have been lying and gaslighting the public, they're gonna, they're gonna receive their accountability in the form of a paycheck.

• 2:08:18Speaker 11

  That's what I'm saying, we have the House, we have the Senate, I think, they need to go harder.

• 2:08:22Patrick Bet-David?

  You divided America, and you impacted another country's elections publicly, and you manipulated where everybody said this guy was rooting for violence. So, yes, there needs to be a certain level of accountability being held there.

• 2:08:34Adam Sosnick?

  Bro, I remember watching that speech.

• 2:08:38Adam Sosnick?

  And being like this motherfucker. He wants, he wa-

• 2:08:41Speaker 11

  Of course, you got duped.

• 2:08:43Adam Sosnick?

  I don't blame you. I'm not gonna bring this up again. This is why you say I'm the biggest Trump guy. I fell for all the lies.

• 2:08:49Speaker 11

  Well, I don't blame you, because if you're watching that network, Adam, you're good.

• 2:08:52Adam Sosnick?

  And I'm watching the news, and what am I gonna think? He's probably edited it.

• 2:08:54Speaker 11

  Adam, it's not your fault. Adam.

• 2:08:56Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, Vinny, it's good or it's-

• 2:08:57Speaker 11

  Adam.

• 2:08:57Adam Sosnick?

  What, Vinny?

• 2:08:58Speaker 11

  It's not your fault.

• 2:08:59Adam Sosnick?

  Don't-

• 2:09:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Thank you.

• 2:09:00Speaker 11

  Vinny- Good Adam hunting.

• 2:09:02Tom Ellsworth?

  I'd like to add something quick. Vinny, you're not crazy. During the drug wars between the Crips and Bloods and- That were in LA, I'm telling you, this really happened.

• 2:09:11Adam Sosnick?

  This is what-

• 2:09:12Tom Ellsworth?

  You had- I had a family member that was part of the paramedics, and I also spoke to other people who were paramedics. And at that time, the paramedics would be coming down to a shooting, and they would hear additional shots. It was supposedly FBI later figured it out, who wanted-

• 2:09:27Adam Sosnick?

  To reroute them to nothing.

• 2:09:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Who wanted to keep the wars going between Crips and Bloods. And they would fire additional shots. Well, guess what? The paramedics would stop at a perimeter before they're going in to get the victims of the shooting. And they would hear the extra shots, and are waiting for LAPD, crash units, and all the things there. They're waiting for all them to get in there, and for the- to stop. Meanwhile, the guys that were shot are bleeding out. And there was- and the violence was suppressed. And they say that it was actually our government that wanted. And if you read the history of the drug wars and Crips and Bloods, they were bad, and they had stuff going on. But there was also government manipulation that was going in there. And also, the country of Mexico, and a group that was called the South. Which was the gangs that were from Mexico and LA were known as the South.

• 2:10:12Tom Ellsworth?

  And so, it's not the first time the government-

• 2:10:14Adam Sosnick?

  And soon.

• 2:10:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Has thrown a distraction over here-

• 2:10:16Speaker 11

  It's crazy.

• 2:10:17Tom Ellsworth?

  To keep it going on over there.

• 2:10:18Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I love that story, Tom. By the way, I thought you were going a completely different direction. I thought you were gonna be like, listen, when I was gang banging with the Crips and the Bloods, let me tell you-

• 2:10:26Speaker 11

  It's about the government manipulating-

• 2:10:26Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no. Adam, it's about how the government wants something to happen over here, and they're actually part of it behind the curtain.

• 2:10:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, let's go to another story here. For those guys that are cops. NYPD, already losing officers with morale, plunging as anti-cop Zohran Mamdani prepares to take reins. Rob, I don't know if we have a- I don't think we have a video on this. Maybe just pull up the story. There you have. Okay, so let's see what's going on over here, okay? What is this cops? Why are you, you, you mean to tell me like cops don't want to work for Mamdani? What? Doesn't seem like a nice. No. He admires you. He admires what you're doing, folks. As NYPD exit is already underway with a surge of officers quitting in a month leading up to anti-cop socialist Mamdani's win.

• 2:11:13Patrick Bet-David?

  And more might go if Police Commissioner Jessica Tish exits, according to data. The NYPD saw 35% hiking cops of all ranks, ranks leaving in October. Two 45 officers compared to 181 same year. According to the Pension Fund, morale is down because everyone is concerned about the police. Mamdani wants to put an off, in place. Said Detectives Endowment Association President Scott Munro. You have a person who is supposed to be running New York City that does not believe in law enforcement. What's coming out of everyone's mouth, we're in trouble. Whether more cops leave in the coming months will depend on the Tish Factor Police Union said, if she leaves, it may result in an uptick.

• 2:11:56Patrick Bet-David?

  The sources said, if she stays, maybe not. So it will certainly get worse if our city leaders don't work with us to fix unsustainable workload, our expired contract and the constant second guessing that is driving good cops away from the job. Can you pull up who this lady is, Rob? Can you pull up who she is? Um, what's her name? Uh, uh, Tish is the last name. Jessica Tish. Jessica Tish. Can we see who Jessica Tish is? Tom, what do you know about her, Jessica Tish? Can we go to Wikipedia, please? Go, go to see what her background is.

• 2:12:28Adam Sosnick?

  Tish, like from the famous Tish family?

• 2:12:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Tish, Tish. Okay, is an American, previously served as Commissioner of New York City. And Tish, so she's apparently respected. Tish was born.

• 2:12:39Adam Sosnick?

  The Tish family is.

• 2:12:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Merrill Tish C. Gold, Lowe's Corporation. She received a Bachelor of Arts in 2003 Harvard University, which of JBM. And Tish began her career with Counterterrorism Bureau of New York City, Department of Solidity by Commissioner Raymond Kelly. She went to hold office positions within the agency in 2020, in 2014 February. She was appointed Deputy Commissioner of Information Technology. What is her background politically? Tish was appointed by Mayor Adams. After being appointed by de Blasio.

• 2:13:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So then, why are they saying that if she is Jewish,

• 2:13:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's go to her school.

• 2:13:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Married to Daniel Zachary.

• 2:13:17Tom Ellsworth?

  This is a billionaire family.

• 2:13:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Rabbi Philip Hyatt at synagogue, go a little bit lower. Okay, de Blasio, Democratic Party, Tisch, New York, Harvard. So why are they saying if she leaves, more will leave? Why are they saying that, Rob? Do we know?

• 2:13:34Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't. Let me take a look. Is she kind of a law and order liberal? They do exist with her family?

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• 2:14:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Tisch, T I S C H? Is that what it is?

• 2:14:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, her dad was the, um...

• 2:14:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Lowe's.

• 2:14:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, Lowe's Hardware. So maybe unrest means, you know, you sell more stuff at Lowe's to rebuild it?

• 2:14:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Many have seen morale is down according to a NYPD report. Leader, there's concern among the... Tisch is viewed as by many as a stable force, a leader they trust, especially during the time of proposed reforms to policing and large changes in public safety priorities. Her potential departure is seen as leaving them vulnerable or signaling instability. The income is measured by from significant restructuring, for example. Some insiders argue that if Tisch will leave, it would be a flashpoint, a signal to officers that leadership is unstable. Yeah, wow, okay, interesting. Interesting. So she's an influencer, people trust her. Tom, how bad do you think this is going to be with cops leaving?

• 2:15:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it's going to be very bad, and I am sending a link to Rob right now. Hopefully you got this, Rob, because it's being noticed across the United States. What do you think of New York cops? Pretty good? Pretty tough? I think so. Man, they are together. When you see funerals that are there of the cops, I mean, they are together. They operate, you know, very well. People say, well, you don't know all the New York cops. No, no, no, no, no. Ninety-eight percent of these New York cops are tough. They love their city. I've had nothing but great experiences with them. Me too. Me too. And I think it's, I think it's a shame what's happening to them. The Brotherhood of the New York Police Department has always been tremendous. We saw what they went through on nine eleven. We saw it the New York Fire Department. These are some of the toughest, most dedicated men serving.

• 2:15:52Tom Ellsworth?

  And we meet them. I, I have met more than one. As a matter of fact, this year, Kim and I played golf with a retired New York cop and his wife. He retired down here. And he had a little bit of a limp. And I said, what's going on? He said, I gotta have my hip replacement. I'm, I was, you know, um, you know, I was beat cop for many, many, many years and I gotta, Medicare is gonna get me my hip replacement. And, uh, cause you could see he had a little bit of a favoring it. But he was just a great guy and you talk to him about stuff and he was not a Trumper guy. He was a pure independent guy. And I think he was a, just a perfect example of what these New York cops are. They are great. They're well-trained and they're, yeah, there's some percent of them that are what they are and, you know, gave into corruption, which I imagine. You're always gonna have that. There wasn't gonna be a hundred percent.

• 2:16:37Tom Ellsworth?

  But what's interesting, there are many cities that know how good New York cops are, Pat. You know what one of them is? Houston. They know how good New York cops are. And the Houston Police Union, they're unionized in Houston, invites the NYPD officers to work for Houston. Come to a state with no income tax. Come to a little bit better weather. Come to, from the first largest city in the United States to the fourth largest city in the United States. Come on down. And you got, that's what I think. So I, I think that if her bio, um, shows up to be true and then somehow she's moved out and the, the comments that they feel insecure about that and feel that that would be destabilizing,

• 2:17:21Tom Ellsworth?

  then they're gonna lose cops. But you know what? This case study has played out, Pat. You know where? Hmm. Portland. And the people of Portland are begging for people to come be cops there. And remember, we saw the, um, uh, signing bonuses. There are significant signing bonuses in Portland. I don't know if we could search for that. What's a signing bonus right now in Portland? It's, um, it's very real. You know? And so. Portland's a case study. You want New York to become Portland? Chase the cops out and see what happens.

• 2:17:51Speaker 11

  Pat, can you imagine your mayor, can you imagine your mayor on, on record saying, "I want to defund the, the, your police department, the NYPD, they're racist, they're bigoted, they're all, all the stuff that he said to them, he's pro-LGB, whatever the hell", like, why would you want that to be your, at the end of the day, your boss? Like, are you freaking kidding? No, you have no backing?

• 2:18:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Unless you need the unrest to guarantee there will never be enough conservatives in town to ever on the left, you know?

• 2:18:16Speaker 11

  Exactly, exactly. And then, God forbid, you actually have to use your service weapon, you have to get involved. You think he's gonna, you think the mayor's gonna have your back? You think the mayor's gonna look out for you?

• 2:18:26Tom Ellsworth?

  We're gonna see what happens.

• 2:18:27Speaker 11

  Because you guys nailed it. Hold on, real, the, the, the job of a New York, like NYPD guys, besides, Chicago's rough as hell too to be a freaking cop in the south side. They don't, there's neighborhoods that they don't even drive down. Like, the fact that that's happening, and remember during Eric Adams? Mr. Now, all of a sudden, he's turned the, the opposite way. Do you remember when the Venezuelan guys were beating the crap out of the-

• 2:18:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Don't criticize him for getting it right.

• 2:18:48Speaker 11

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 2:18:49Tom Ellsworth?

  You can criticize him for his history, but don't criticize Eric Adams for getting it right and saying, "This is where I stand", because you know what kind of balls that took?

• 2:18:56Speaker 11

  No.

• 2:18:56Tom Ellsworth?

  In the face of all the people that, on the Democratic side?

• 2:18:59Speaker 11

  No, well, Tom, what I'm saying is, when he was in as the mayor, uh, still, and they were beating the hell out of the freaking cops, the Venezuelans, and the next day they got out of jail, and they were walking like this, flipping the bird. Who's the ma, who's in charge?

• 2:19:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you what the problem's gonna be, let me tell you what the problem's gonna be in New York. So Rob, if you can do me a favor, pull up this clip I just gave you, because reality is sinking in in New York City on, uh, what Hokel remembers. Let me tell you what Hokel remembers with these two. So, she was asked about free buses, okay?

• 2:19:29Speaker 11

  Uh huh.

• 2:19:29Patrick Bet-David?

  And watch what she does. She was asked about free buses. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:19:34Speaker 24

  Because I'm from Buffalo, we don't put up with a lot of crap.

• 2:19:36Speaker 11

  Crap.

• 2:19:37Speaker 24

  So, I just wanted to set the stage that, you know, you look at the history of people who've run multi-billion dollar ad campaigns to try and get me to change my position. I don't change my position. So I just want to put it out there. I respect people's opinions. I respect the proper place to convey them. And so I've said to people, I hear you. Now, it's important, but also there is a time and place. And so that's all on that. No, I've had conversations on this trip, but many conversations, I'd say over the summer and the fall, that were important, that led to an understanding of what's in the realm of possibility,

• 2:20:18Speaker 24

  shared ambitions, but what is doable is the question. And so, no, we're aligned on some of these issues. You know, I've made it clear where I have strong disagreements with issues that really do not pertain to, you know, the governance of New York City.

• 2:20:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Make your point.

• 2:20:35Speaker 24

  Said, you need to get a police commissioner that people trust, who has a record of accomplishment.

• 2:20:40Patrick Bet-David?

  She says free buses is a no-go.

• 2:20:42Speaker 24

  Crime is going down. Crime is going down significantly. You don't say mission accomplished, but that is a great trend. So him agreeing with that assessment, that recommendation to keep Jessica Tish.

• 2:20:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't stop that, right? Now, she's saying shuts down the idea of free buses and taxing the rich. She's saying that. What she didn't forget is this. Go ahead, Rob. Play this clip.

• 2:21:08Speaker 14

  Show of hands, who supports Cathy Hochul for reelection? It's a decision that should be made after this general election. So no decision. A show of hands, who supports?

• 2:21:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You see what he said. So, no, but specifically, he said after this election. So is Hochul sitting there saying, oh, really? Oh, really? Okay. No problem. You need me, buddy.

• 2:21:30Speaker 11

  Yeah, I don't need you.

• 2:21:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So you need me on some of this stuff. So you don't want to support me, so why am I going to support you? When you come, so I don't know what's going to happen to New York City. My biggest thing is as much as we have fun with this and we talk a lot about New York City, we have a lot of friends and family that live in New York and we want the best for them. And ideally, I would like all of this to be figured out and keep New York City as a special city. But unfortunately, you guys voted for this. And if you say, I didn't vote for this. If you didn't vote for it, you voted for this. If you didn't publicly rally other people to go vote against this, you voted for this. But either way, you voted for this. This is kind of what happens. Eventually, right? This is kind of what happens. Whether it's, you know, what happened during COVID,

• 2:22:12Patrick Bet-David?

  the decisions that were made, the people that left, more and more of the people that probably view the world the way you do have left your great state and your great city, okay? And have gone to a different place. What happens there, who knows? Go ahead, Adam.

• 2:22:23Adam Sosnick?

  Well, look, as you always say, elections have consequences. You know, if you want to just quote Isaac Newton, for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. So, Mumdani is a reaction to what happened with capitalism, and now the socialism is in vogue. And we all know where this sort of story ends. You know, I'm receiving calls, Rob, and I put this number on my phone. If you get a call from this number, just put that face right there, and that's gonna show up right there. Because it's likely a scam. Because he's likely lying to your face. It's likely a Trojan horse. It's likely a wolf in sheep's clothing. And none of what he's basically standing for is what is actually gonna happen. So, New York, you know, here's one example. Did you see where Mumdani was this week?

• 2:23:06Speaker 11

  Puerto Rico.

• 2:23:07Adam Sosnick?

  He was in Puerto Rico. So, this is the same guy that says, "Would you go visit Israel?" "I would not. I only focus on New York." Oh, but you're gonna go to Puerto Rico? So, what's gonna happen is, in the day of social media, all the BS lies.

• 2:23:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Those are two different things. Puerto Rico is America. Israel is not America. So, for him to go visit Puerto Rico.

• 2:23:26Adam Sosnick?

  But it's the same guy who condemns Andrew Cuomo for not visiting a mosque. Why does he have to visit a mosque? You don't have to visit anything. You can go, um, find where the electorate is, and you can go campaign where you want to campaign.

• 2:23:38Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the part of the politics stuff that is just, you know, that to me, it's like, you know, it's unnecessary questions that they ask, that people are requesting to ask. But the reality being, on what you're saying with him, I get it. I get the fact that New York City got scammed with this guy, but let's see what he does. Maybe the controls don't allow him to do all the stuff that he wants to do. Maybe Hoca's gonna be his number one enemy. Maybe this is gonna be a civil war in New York. We don't know yet. Let's see what happens. What we do know is this guy's not good for New York City. That's what we do know.

• 2:24:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Hundred percent.

• 2:24:14Patrick Bet-David?

  These policies have been tried before.

• 2:24:15Adam Sosnick?

  Hey, nobody's leaving, right?

• 2:24:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:24:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:24:16Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's, that's for sure. Everyone's gonna stay and I think more people are gonna come.

• 2:24:20Adam Sosnick?

  Vinny, do you remember the cop we met?

• 2:24:21Tom Ellsworth?

  The boomerang is gonna come. The boomerang is gonna come. It's gonna be expensive.

• 2:24:24Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 2:24:24Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, I was just sent this by a, a listener, I won't say the name, and sent me that on the inside, um, that said that the Portland Police Bureau is now offering 100 to 120 K pay package, and the list of benefits, including healthcare, are 95% covered. So you only have to take 5% out of your paycheck to cover the full list of benefits. So almost it's like 100 to 100.

• 2:24:50Patrick Bet-David?

  They're begging now.

• 2:24:51Speaker 11

  Begging you to come to the police.

• 2:24:52Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what it, that's what it's taking to get people to come to Portland to be great cops.

• 2:24:56Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I actually, I actually wish that New Yorkers will stay in New York, I mean cops specifically. Your city needs you more than ever. Now's not the time to cut and run. Police officers are not built that way. Our, I know it's Veterans Day tomorrow. Our military servicemen and women are not built that way. Stay in New York and make it great.

• 2:25:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Look, I mean, you never know. Uh, you may be looking at a panel with three different mayors here. You got Mayor for Lauderdale, uh, Tom Soon. You got Mayor of Pompano, Mayor O'Shaughnessy. And you got Mayor of Miami Beach.

• 2:25:28Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, sir.

• 2:25:28Patrick Bet-David?

  One day who got, he got involved in the Miami Beach election and wasn't good news.

• 2:25:32Adam Sosnick?

  Steven Minor, congratulations. I'm glad to help. We can get you to luck.

• 2:25:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Not happy with them.

• 2:25:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Folks, we're not messing around on this. Stay tuned in the future. You'll hear Pat talk about it. But we're not messing around about standing up and going and serving in our communities and serving as elected officials and getting into the fight. You get in the fight too. It starts with registering to vote, getting people around you registering to vote, and having reasonable conversation with family members and getting people to hear the facts, bring the receipts, move a person.

• 2:25:59Adam Sosnick?

  Awesome.

• 2:26:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Move a family, move a street, move a county, move the world.

• 2:26:03Adam Sosnick?

  I'm Vincent O'Shaughnessy and I approve this message.

• 2:26:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's it.

• 2:26:05Adam Sosnick?

  We love you, buddy.

• 2:26:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to VTmerch.com. Veterans, we love you, we respect you. Take care, everybody. God bless. Bye bye, bye bye.

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