FBI Wire on Newsom, Empire State Proposal & Mamdani's War on AC | PBD Podcast #827

Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team break down the FBI secretly infiltrating Gavin Newsom’s inner circle, OpenAI’s reported talks to give the Trump administration a massive stake, Trump’s crypto empire, collapsing AI infrastructure, and the biggest political and business stories shaping America. ⚽️ SHOP THE USA 250 COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4g0bfWY 🦁 THE VAULT 2026: AUG 31ST TO SEPT 1ST: https://bit.ly/4xU2SCW 😆 CHECK OUT VENTING WITH VINNIE: https://youtube.com/live/XTIx7FCjl_8 📕 BUY BRET BAIER'S CASE FOR AMERICA: https://bit.ly/4emcm24 🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: https://bit.ly/4mFBPpw Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: http://kalshi.com/pbd SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT @ValuetainmentComedy ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller "Your Next Five Moves" and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:14Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 0:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:19Speaker 00

  My sun's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Great to be with you. Last night, we hosted the first Florida gubernatorial debate. We had a great time. We got a lot of comments afterwards of people wanting to do others and it's exciting because it was many heated moments, some controversial moments. Maybe we'll address some of them. Aside from that, Newsom had a rough last 24 hours. With FBI infiltrating Gavin Newsom's inner circle by convincing governor's ally to wear a wire. Lawyer. This is a New York Post story that just dropped and they've been quiet about it. They've not been commenting about it, so we'll address that. Obviously, one of the bigger stories, folks. I hope you're being responsible today. While you're watching your podcast. You know, for some of you guys in California, it's 6 something in the morning. You're watching this 4th of July weekend. 250 year anniversary tomorrow.

• 1:10Patrick Bet-David?

  You better not have your AC above 70, below 78. Oh wow. Telling you, you better do the responsible thing, folks. Do what Mamdani said. Turn your heater to 78. Can you imagine? Everybody, you sleep with a, I don't know what temperature you sleep with, Adam. Are you like a 68? 72, buddy. Sup, Tom? What are you? What temperature do you go to sleep with?

• 1:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, we're very patriotic. Kim likes it cold at night. She puts it at 17. And I am in the kitchen trying to keep it warm. I have it at 76, so we feel very patriotic.

• 1:39Patrick Bet-David?

  That was supposed to be funny, but what's yours? I didn't get it. I live in a one. I need a simple answer. What's your number? 74. Okay, 74. These are reasonable people, but Mamdani wants it to be at 78. He wants you to lose weight. He wants you to be sweating bullets. And while D. Rabi at CNN was trying to defend Mamdani, when asked about lowering the temperature, it's like, hey, why don't we lower the studio at CNN to 78? No, that's, are you kidding me?

• 2:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you imagine how great it is when hypocrisy comes out? So we'll address that. Then we have next one, which is public trust and polls. Tom was talking about this pre-podcast. Is what's going on with that with Jill Biden's book is all of a sudden on off off lists. This was the first lady. You came out with your book. How many copies did you sell? Did people buy him? Did people buy him in bulk just to help out with? Nobody knows. And then even Spotify deletes a couple of the charts. We'll get into that. This is why the Kalshi model is working so well. Even yesterday while we were doing the debate, everyone said, well, let me tell you Byron Donalds this and that. And all the, that's great. You're saying this. Why are people putting nearly $9 million of money on Kalshi? And Byron Donalds had 95% of it.

• 2:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I think after yesterday's debate, the plus minus was what? Fishback went from 2.8 to 4%. Collins and Paul Renner came up a little bit. It was a very interesting thing that happened, but people are paying attention to Kalshi. People are paying attention to what's going on there. And they're saying if, if a person is willing to risk their money like that, there's gotta be something behind it.

• 3:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And then aside from that, these two beautiful Russian couple, that's something I would never do. I love my wife. I would never climb up. What was it? The Empire State Building all the way to the top and then propose. I'm proposing on ground. That's what we're doing right here at a restaurant or whatever. These two Russian, good looking, attractive couple go all the way to the top. Put a message, which by the way, one of the funniest things I saw is some people posted saying, that's actually not that what they put up. They put up something else. I'll share it with Connor and yeah, they put up this whatever. Yeah, there's a lot of funny banners that we people putting up and then he proposes to her. They come downstairs, you know, eventually they get arrested.

• 3:51Patrick Bet-David?

  They get multiple felonies, but they're released, but uh, no, they were everywhere, every channel, everything you watch it were climbing. Who is this good looking, attractive Russian couple? All the money in the world, you couldn't find me doing that. Literally all the money in the world. And we're gonna give you all the money in the world. Would you do it?

• 4:05Speaker 03

  Hundred, hundred million dollars cash right in front of you.

• 4:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Hundred billion, I don't do it. I'm telling you right now, I have zero desire to do something like this. They're hanging off, no rope, no nothing.

• 4:16Speaker 03

  Does that bother you?

• 4:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Just looking at, tell me what's exciting about that. Tell me what's exciting. That's why I sold insurance. I went into business on ground. I don't sell insurance on the, you know, the top of a tower there. Hey, John and Mary, let me tell you about insurance. We're not doing that. Anyways, there's another story of a mother who loses her child. And one of the congressmen, Jay Paul.

• 4:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Congresswoman.

• 4:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Congresswoman is like, listen, this is our fourth one today. Can we please like, she's like, I'm sorry. You're so busy with all of these, you don't want to address, you have to see this, it's disturbing. Conversation they're having. We're gonna talk about 50 greatest movies because allegedly Adam wants to share his 50 greatest movies. I don't know if Adam's even seen 50 movies. Adam typically.

• 4:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Not in the last 10 years, sir.

• 4:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam watches Wedding Singer on repeat. That's Adam's a type of guy.

• 5:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Wedding Crashers, Wedding Singer.

• 5:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, next.

• 5:05Tom Ellsworth?

  My Big Fat Greek Wedding.

• 5:06Patrick Bet-David?

  30 years ago, if you were tracking this, 30 years ago, a man sued Pepsi.

• 5:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Because they said, we're gonna give a jet. Was it a fighter jet or what kind of a jet?

• 5:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, it was a fighter jet. They said fighter jet.

• 5:19Patrick Bet-David?

  They're gonna give a fighter jet and you had to do this thing that was mathematically impossible to do. And so like, no one's ever gonna do it. It's kinda like when Buffett says, anybody gets the perfect bracket for college, you know, what is it, March Madness?

• 5:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, March Madness.

• 5:32Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna give you a billion dollars, right? And no one's gonna hit that. Well, guess what? This one guy did. 30 years later, he's still collecting his jet. He's like, where the hell is my jet? Finally, they gave him something, but it's not the jet. But we'll talk about that. It's a funny story. The Rock is being bothered. By Hollywood elitists. Tell us your position. Criticize Trump. Say how much you hate Republicans. Like dude, I'm just trying to make movies and be a celebrity and get my business model. I'm not trying to go into politics. I'm not interested in any of this stuff. Leave me alone. No, you gotta say something bad about the president. Guy's not willing to do it. We'll talk about that. The game with Portugal against Croatia. What the hell? You know what it came down to? You know, I looked at it. You know what it came down to? Hair. Do you know it came down to hair? Do you know this?

• 6:16Patrick Bet-David?

  The ball that they added for the first time in the history of World Cup, they added that sensor inside the ball, the chip. The chip didn't feel the hair. If it feels the, if it doesn't, it's a goal.

• 6:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh damn.

• 6:29Patrick Bet-David?

  It was all based off of the chip. And so they're saying, like, right there, it's all based off the chip. And that's why Portugal and, you know, was. We're at the lounge last night and the whole thing is did it touch or did it not touch? So we'll talk about this, we'll address this and Portugal's gonna be playing who Spain? Spain. Which Tom is saying Spain's gonna demolish Portugal. Indirectly, I think Tom, you said that. I, based on what we saw yesterday on Spain, I don't know if Portugal wants that team.

• 6:58Speaker 03

  And USA is gonna play Belgium down our best player, but guess what?

• 7:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I think US is gonna win.

• 7:03Speaker 03

  US is gonna win.

• 7:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And then Argentina is playing Capiverde and Humberto is. Watch out for my Capiverdes out there, they're gonna get them. As much as you're being sarcastic. Oh no. They could. Don't sleep. I don't know, I don't. I'm a big Capiverde guy. We'll see.

• 7:16Tom Ellsworth?

  They're the same size as Miami, they're the exact same population.

• 7:20Patrick Bet-David?

  And then we got a couple of the stories, one of the stories is Kid Max Inc., this New York Times story about the ultimate status symbol that some wealthy men are doing with Kid Max Inc. And 11, next story is Playstation, Sony, people are furious, what do you mean I'm not getting the box? If I'm buying the video game, I want the damn box, no, we're not doing the box, you're just gonna get the download, no, I want the box. You know, and why? Because of ownership, there's pride, I want to get this. And so Sony had to adjust with some of the stuff that they're doing because apparently one of the stories, Tom, was about movies that people had and because their licensing agreement was gone, you paid the 20 bucks for the movie, it's gone. Even though you paid 20, Sony keeps it, so people are like, wait a minute,

• 8:03Patrick Bet-David?

  why are you not renewing your licensing agreement? So it's interesting. And then the NBA, Stephen A. Smith says, what team wins being all white? And Vinny doesn't like it. Oh man. Vinny doesn't like it because Stephen A. went after white folks, you know, say it the proper way. White. Right? The white. It's not cool. Watch out for them white. It's not cool because LeBron's no longer in the Lakers, you know, he got kicked out or whatever, he left one of those two. And I will tell you guys about a story of a billionaire who billed a team winning championship with 71% white team. And I'll show the story, it's his most hated story, he doesn't like this story, but we're gonna talk about the story. And then I gotta show you an emotional video, man, because you know who's becoming the MVP of?

• 8:47Patrick Bet-David?

  You know who's becoming the MVP of the entire World Cup? It's a guy named Zlatan. I think Zlatan is absolutely crushing it with what he's doing, with the way he's handling himself, everything that's going on. By the way, is audio in or out? Because I'm seeing comment section with audio being in or out. Can you guys tell me in the back if audio is good or not? Humberto, Andres, can you guys give me a thumbs up if audio is in or out? Okay, okay, was there an issue? And if there was an issue, how long was the issue? Because I'm seeing the comment section saying there was an issue. Is that the only issue that we had? Okay, all right, sounds good. So with that being said, folks, before we get started, this is 4th of July and there's obviously a lot of stuff that's going on. About 30, 40 billion dollars is going to be spent on 4th of July.

• 9:31Patrick Bet-David?

  And we decided to do something special for everybody, especially for the VT and the Future Looks Bright audience. I want you to watch this clip here, go for it. You know what I love about the World Cup? People around the world came to America and realized how awesome this country is. They're making videos saying, "I love America. We needed other people to come in to remind us that this is the greatest country in the world." And it's officially turning 250 years old, 4th of July. And because of that, Americans every weekend on 4th of July spend roughly 35 billion dollars looking for deals online. So let me tell you what we're doing at VT here ourselves. Number one, anybody that buys a hat, buy one hat, get one free. Number two, there's an entire deal section with 70% off. Number three, anybody places an order over $1,000, first 50, I will FaceTime you. So whether you buy brand new Future Looks Bright shoes,

• 10:16Patrick Bet-David?

  whether you buy different Future Looks Bright hats that we have all over the place, shirts, sweaters, anything that we have over 1,000, first 50, I'll FaceTime you. The first 200 that order, get the limited edition gold water bottle that we have at Valuetainment. And last but not least, for some of you that want to reinvest into yourself and get smarter, better strategies moving forward. This is probably the best season for you to get the bundle of all our online courses, whether it's public speaking, whether it's sales, whether it's strategy, whether it's the Vault Conference, any of that stuff, all five of them for $1,000. So go to VTmerch.com. And the crazy ones that are watching are saying, "Man, I'd love to be on a podcast myself, sitting down, talking to you guys." Anybody that places an order over 2,000? We will do a raffle. We will fly you out. We'll pick one winner, fly you out, put you at

• 11:01Patrick Bet-David?

  a hotel, give you a tour the entire property here. Then you will go to dinner with all of us to Casa DiAngelo and you will sit right here and we'll do a home team podcast together. Well, I'll be asking you about issues and you will be on all of our clips with PBD Podcast. Either way, go to VTmerch.com, place your order and have a happy 4th of July.

• 11:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, guys, go to VTmerch.com to place your order and we look forward to calling some of you as you go through this and get that golden bottle of water sent to the first 200 orders. And then those of you, the guys that were a little, little, little crazy, the 2,000, we'll invite you to have you on the podcast and have dinner with you. So, having said that, let's get right into it. First story I want to go to is FBI infiltrated Gavin Newsom's inner circle by convincing governor's ally to wear a wire. This is a New York Post story. The FBI had a mole inside Gavin Newsom's political orbit before the agency's corruption probe expanded into the governor and his wife. The Post has learned Democrat insider Alexis Podesta, 45, secretly recorded conversations during

• 12:03Patrick Bet-David?

  the criminal probe into Newsom's then chief of staff Dana Williamson, 53, who pleaded guilty to federal fraud and tax charges in May. According to Williamson's attorney, the revelation she was wearing a wire as far back as June 2024. Damn. This is like Joe Pistone, Donnie Brasco type of stuff. Explains why a swath of Sacramento political insiders and lobbyists were stunned to receive FBI letters last fall informing them that their phone calls have been intercepted during the investigation despite many have little or no connection to Williamson. Alexis wore a wire and Dana did not, said McGregor Scott, Williamson's lawyer and a former US attorney for Eastern District of California, which

• 12:44Patrick Bet-David?

  is now investigating the Newsom's. The disclosure comes as Newsom announced last month that he and his wife, whose nonprofit had been burning through money in recent years, as well as members of the governor's inner circle, are under federal investigation. Within hours of that announcement, Newsom blasted out an email to raise money for political action committee. Tom, what's going on over here?

• 13:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I'll tell you what's going on over here. Williamson, we know what happened there. Dana Williamson pleads guilty, has the situation come up. However, now we find out that there is a wire on this. So we're in a wire and they are now investigating the Newsom specifically. The only reason they're investigating the Newsoms is because something came up on the wire. And so they got Williamson and Williamson, the wire must have been very compelling because he pled before plea. I looked it up. You know what pleading before plea is? Is where, where your lawyer basically tells the government, says, look, we're going to plead guilty on this. We want to figure out what are we going to do here on sentencing? You go straight to sentencing.

• 13:46Tom Ellsworth?

  You assume that the government's going to get you on one felony or two felony. And so you're suddenly now worried about sentencing, not how many or what charges. Like if it's one felony or three felonies, Adam, you know how this works. You hear people talk about it. He will serve those concurrently. Yes. So even though you've done three things, you're, three things, it should be five years each, but you're only going to serve the five years once. And the six weeks, eight weeks, two months that they had you in, in temporary jail, waiting trial, they credit that as time served. So this is what's happened with Dana Williamson. And so now, check this out. It's the Eastern District of California. The closer you get to the Eastern District, the more moderated you get in California

• 14:31Tom Ellsworth?

  because you're going east. And so they're investigating Newsom. He said nothing about it. He hasn't come out. You see Gavin Newsom come out talking about these guys. I don't know what they're talking about. You know, this president? He's absolute joke. He's despicable. He's horrible. Are you doing a Trump Newsom combo? No, he does try. No, it's, but it's Gavin Newsom. Okay, okay. You don't see Gavin Newsom sitting out there. I don't think we know what's going on here. I think we do know we got this. Newsom is not saying that. Newsom is not out there saying things, screwing around with the DOJ. I think there's something big coming because now they've said, we've got Williamson, dead to rights, going to sentence. Now we're also investigating the Newsoms and there's two things there. One, what if anything did they have to do with the?

• 15:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Williamson crimes and now they're investigating specifically the leak, the DOJ leak, when a leak statement is their nonprofit. And remember, we know about the nonprofit, we know about the diaper math and we know about a few things. So Pat, it appears that there's some very real things going on. Will it amount to anything? Will Aunt Nancy Pelosi step in? Tune in tomorrow.

• 15:39Speaker 03

  And by the way, Tom, great freaking take. And just throwing this out there, the FBI doesn't put a wire on someone because of a rumor. A judge has to sign off on it. So that means they have freaking all the evidence that they needed for a judge to sign off and go go and tap. This isn't just a rogue cash.

• 15:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Your honor, we believe this guy is dirty. We want a wire on this person and we want, by the way, there was more than just the wire.

• 16:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:04Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what they had?

• 16:05Speaker 03

  What?

• 16:05Tom Ellsworth?

  They had cell phone warrants. And so they said they've been listening to calls. It's in the statements.

• 16:10Speaker 03

  And by the way, Alexis Podesta, that's.

• 16:12Tom Ellsworth?

  People got a letter that said, by the way, your phone messages.

• 16:15Speaker 03

  We have everything.

• 16:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Now? Not for the last two months. Hope he didn't say anything.

• 16:19Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. Imagine the stuff that they said, but, but.

• 16:21Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, Bubbles Pimp left you a message just now.

• 16:24Speaker 03

  So Alexis Podesta is like, brother, this is a close ally to Newsom. But so this is like, this isn't just some random person. And Tom, once they have Dana Williamson, okay? She helped move $225,000 out of a dormant campaign account and she was disguising it as consultant fees, no show jobs, anything, Tom, for them to listen. Think about it, Tom.

• 16:46Tom Ellsworth?

  And that's the only time she ever did that.

• 16:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly.

• 16:48Tom Ellsworth?

  One time.

• 16:49Speaker 03

  So once you get caught with something that massive, Pat, think about, well, you want to talk about people ratting? If you ever watched the first 48, Tom, my favorite show, those people go into the interrogation room, as soon as they know that they're done, they give them a Coca-Cola, they start ratting on everybody. You don't think Dana Williamson is like, hey, listen, I will tell you everything, just as long as I don't have to spend the rest of my life in jail. And mind you, all this time, all this points to what happens in California, they keep pushing, remember they did, they stopped the Nick Shirley act? Keep anything to stop anybody from investigating all the fraud because it's rampant. And I pray, I pray, Tom, that they go down. They all go down and they all do the perp walk that everybody in the Trump administration.

• 17:28Tom Ellsworth?

  So she had control of the accounts and she was moving the money. How did they eventually get Al Capone?

• 17:34Speaker 03

  Tax evasion.

• 17:35Tom Ellsworth?

  But what guy did they get? His accountant?

• 17:38Speaker 03

  His accountant, they grabbed that guy.

• 17:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're saying something could actually happen here?

• 17:41Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I, look, this is the Department of Justice saying they're investigating Newsom's, they're investigating their, their charity, and we already know the diaper math, the headline stunk. So it's like, who was getting the money for the diaper? Remember that math? It's like, this is impossible. Somebody was getting money for diapers because it was impossible to be paying that kind of money for diapers, remember all that?

• 18:01Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 18:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your thoughts?

• 18:03Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, I gotta tell you, man. Starting to think Gavin Newsom might not be that good, that's good at this leadership thing. I don't know. I, I think he looks the part. I think he could pretend to be the part. I just don't know if he's actually doing the thing. You know, this is, this is completely his leadership under question. We all know what's going on in his state. We see California literally burning down, God forbid. But also, behind the scenes in, in his administration, it seems like there's some shady stuff going on, remains to be seen. It's like, at the end of the day, this is a failure of leadership. If you're the CEO of a state, or of a company, let's say, you might not be under investigation, but, you know, they say when there's smoke, there's fire.

• 18:44Adam Sosnick?

  It's like, if you're COO, you're CMO, and your chief of staff, they're all under investigation and they're being questioned, it's like, what kind of culture are you building there in your administration in California? For me, it's pretty simple. Do what you gotta do in California, Gavin Newsom, Karen Bass, do all that, but don't comei-fornia my America.

• 19:05Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 19:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that, is that the mic drop statement that you're making? Is that what's going on there?

• 19:10Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, you know what?

• 19:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I like that.

• 19:11Adam Sosnick?

  It was.

• 19:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 19:12Adam Sosnick?

  It was.

• 19:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen, I mean, if this is, who, who, who do you think? The part I'm trying to find out here is, who's setting him up? Who's setting him up? Cause Tom, you said something. You said, is the DSA his enemy right now? Is it, is it the Democratic Socialist section that's sitting out there and saying, hey, let's get this guy out? Let's get AOC. You guys saw the other day, JD Vance gave a shout out to AOC as a possible candidate of the Democratic Party, to the point that they even asked AOC the question. And they said, what do you think about what JD Vance said about you?

• 19:45Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I saw that.

• 19:45Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and if you were to think about, who would be more conniving and strategic to get somebody out? Who would it be? This is it, watch this. Watch this, folks.

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  I mean, um, you know, uh, I hope he is, that's what I'll say. What'd he say? I hope he is. What was the question?

• 22:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you hope JD thinks that he thinks that you could be the nominee?

• 22:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Why would JD say that? Because JD actually thinks it could happen. And if they're working together, who is, who is more united under, who is more true believer in their cause? Socialists or Democrats?

• 23:01Tom Ellsworth?

  DSA socialists. Socialists.

• 23:02Patrick Bet-David?

  DSA socialists are more true to their cause, right? Of what they believe in. Okay. So if that's the case, and they really believe in their cause, do you think they have enough true believers that would find a way to destroy their candidates? With Newsom being one of them?

• 23:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Absolutely. I, I have not, I've been unwavering in my position that I don't believe that the core DNC wants Gavin Newsom. The core DNC, and I believe what I said, because I was reading the tea leaves, I think it was a right read. That nine months ago, they were thinking about JB Pritzker. He's, he's Illinois. He's from the Midwest. He's got a lot of money. I don't think that's the, the guy anymore, but I think the DNC pat is still not on Newsom. They know there's too much baggage. And they don't need California. They're gonna win California anyway, and he has a lot of baggage that comes with it. So do I think the DSA, which is more split from the DNC than MAGA ever was from the RNC?

• 23:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Do I think that they're pulling strings and doing things? Could they be whispering, uh, maybe they'll talk to this person too? They do it to each other all the time in the primaries. They kill each other in the primaries, and but then they're better at waving a flag and getting everybody together for the election.

• 24:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So I don't know. I, I think if there's something going on there, I, I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to get rid of their number one candidate, number one opponent, and that be a Newsom. And having the socialist stuff coming up. Why? The reason why I say this is because the Socialist Party is part of the 78 degree party. Okay? And a 78 degree party is very important. Then you have to realize, you have to make sure you don't. Turn the AC below seventy eight degrees because it's not proper to do so. And the person that said this was the face of socialism today, Mamdani, Mayor Mamdani from New York. If you guys want to pull up that story on page eight, I don't know if you guys got a video of one of his tweets. He comes out Mamdani gets roasted after telling sweltering New Yorkers to set AC to seventy eight degree. And everybody calls him a commie.

• 24:56Patrick Bet-David?

  You're a commie, you're a commie, you're a commie for doing this. If you guys got the tweet, if you want to pull it up. So there it is, New York, it's hot out there. And the power grid is working overtime to keep us cool. Set your AC to seventy eight degrees. Turn off the lights, electronics you're not using and unplug what you can. Our city is doing its part to. Maintaining the seventy eight degree rule in our building, dimming, turning off our lights during peak electric. Electricity demand, asking private partners to do the same and powering down non-essential equipment. A stable grid means the AC stays on and lives are saved. Let's ease demand and get through the heat together. That's in almost a chat GPT type of a tweet right there with those two lines that you see on the bottom.

• 25:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So gets fifty eight million views, not for a good thing. Even CNN, there's a clip, Vinny, if I'm not mistaken, right? CNN reacts to this. If you guys got that with.

• 25:48Speaker 03

  There's Abby Phillips.

• 25:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it's a group that was sent. But before you guys find it, I'll come to you first, Vinny. So what do you think about this tweet? Why do you think the audience reacted the way that they did?

• 25:57Speaker 03

  I, I, Pat, nobody wants anybody telling them how to live their lives. People are out there busting their butts, they're paying their bills, they're doing everything. Who, who's gonna listen to this? I don't care. Republican, Democrat, Communist, you know, Independent, Republican, whatever the hell. Nobody wants them to tell them, by the way, I'm from New York. Do you guys have any idea what seventy eight degrees is, is in your apartment? Have you ever felt that before? Like over here, Tom, I'm lucky because remember how you taught me about where the sun comes up and where the sun sets?

• 26:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 26:25Speaker 03

  My apartment is good because I'm covered by trees and I'm not affected by the sun. That's why I'm pretty sure at the beginning when I said my apartment's seventy four degrees, people were like, wait, what are you talking about? It's so cool in my apartment, but people don't want any, by the way, and again, these are the people that are free and love and life. And now they're already starting to do that. Do this, do that, we're asking you this. And imagine once they're in power, Tommy, where it's like, they're not going to request. They're going to say, hey, listen, we're going to put something on your thermostat that's not going to let you go above this type of temperature. That's where it's heading.

• 26:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, by the way, i- i- if, if you look at a lot of other countries, which we'll get to here in a minute. I want Dear Abby, if you can play this clip here from CNN, go for it.

• 27:05Speaker 00

  Ben, I don't understand this. Do you support it? Ask Nikki Haley. No, I'm asking, like, do you think, like, when you saw that, you're like, hell, yeah, let me walk over there and knock that number up to 78? Let me ask you a question. Is Nikki, is the Republic of South Carolina on the stage? Oh, no, yeah, yeah. It's 78 there a lot. It's 78 there a lot. What, what, what, Ben? Do you support it? And Ben, don't you live in Texas? I live in Texas and it's, there's no way in hell we're putting it on 78 degrees.

• 27:35Speaker 03

  That's why, that's why your grid falls apart.

• 27:36Speaker 00

  It's not 78 degrees in here right now either. Like, like, no one's going to abide by this. Like, it's absurd. But Ben, I'm just saying, this is a weird hill to die on. No, it, because it's not. When Nikki Haley says, hold on, when Nikki Haley says, we ask that you set your thermostat to 68 or lower. I do, in the winter. In the winter, this is for the winter energy conservation. So in the winter.

• 27:59Speaker 03

  Who's talking about Nikki Haley?

• 28:00Speaker 00

  They're telling people to set, she's telling.

• 28:02Speaker 03

  They gotta pull up something from 11 years ago.

• 28:05Speaker 00

  To set their thermostat to 68.

• 28:06Speaker 03

  12 years ago.

• 28:07Speaker 00

  And also, this doesn't come from the politicians. This is also coming from, as I pointed out, the Department of Energy. It's coming from the power companies, Khan Edison.

• 28:16Speaker 03

  You guys understand that she's sticking up for Mamdani?

• 28:18Speaker 00

  Running the power. So let me translate here.

• 28:21Tom Ellsworth?

  She's campaigning, she's campaigning.

• 28:23Speaker 03

  CNN is sticking up for a freaking communist mindset and, buddy, because they're in New York and he's the mayor. He's the mayor and she's there, they're in the city. That's unbelievable.

• 28:33Patrick Bet-David?

  So let me, let me read you a couple of other countries. So in Japan, since 2005. The government's cool biz campaign has encouraged offices to keep their conditioning at 28 Celsius, which is 82.4 in summer. Many government officials follow these guidelines, although it's generally recommendation rather than a criminally enforceable law. In Spain, in 2022, Spain required many public buildings and offices, shopping centers, hotels, train stations, and airports to not cool below 27, which is 80.6. Again, for same thing, energy. Italy did the same thing, 80.6. Greece, it's just, forget about Greece. France has encouraged limits on cooling on public buildings as part of a national energy conservation plans at

• 29:17Patrick Bet-David?

  78.8. Germany during the 2008 energy crisis did the same thing. And you have a few others, but are we, are we trying to be the leaders? Are we, can you imagine like if all of a sudden, because of the, you know, they're doing surveillance with Flock, and that was one of the main topics, topics we talked about yesterday. What if there is controls? What if there's controls and state level, some blue states decide to say, hey, whether you like it or not, it's going to be 78. And, and the way they're making the surveillance and the technology, what if they get to that point?

• 29:48Speaker 03

  It just starts lowering, but they'll,

• 29:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Lowering or raising because they control. That would be, but, but you know what I would like to see? I would actually like to see a couple of blue states do that. I would like to see a couple of blue states flirt with that.

• 30:00Speaker 03

  Really?

• 30:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I would. I want to see how people react to it. I would love to see New York City flirt with that. Hey, we're all about the people and we have to be careful with climate change. The, the state has control over it now and I, we appreciate your support for this. We're going to 78 whether you like it or not.

• 30:17Speaker 03

  I would, I would be very interested to see how these,

• 30:21Patrick Bet-David?

  What causes people to leave more? The wealth tax or AC to 78?

• 30:27Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, well, let me share something with you. What kind of thermostat do you have in your house? Do you have a Nest?

• 30:33Speaker 03

  No.

• 30:35Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, if you call FPO, you can get a Nest.

• 30:37Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 30:38Tom Ellsworth?

  And they'll go stick it in your house. And as soon as you have a Nest in your house, you know what they know?

• 30:42Speaker 03

  What?

• 30:43Tom Ellsworth?

  They know every time you move it and they know your habit. And they also, if you read the fine print, If FPL provides that, by the way, this is not just Florida Power and Light, this is everybody. If you have a connected thermostat, Pat, in this country, if you read the fine print, your power company, if they declare a power emergency, like a, like a summer brownout, and you live in Louisiana, they can turn that thermostat up.

• 31:08Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 31:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Damn straight.

• 31:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. I don't want anybody controlling my...

• 31:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your thoughts?

• 31:13Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, I think Mom Donnie might have lost me. I was gonna go with the high taxes and the seizing the means of production and the redistribution of wealth, and I was even considering getting my 18th COVID jab and wearing a mask. You know, the famous line in, "Take my eyes, but not my shirt." This is where you're gonna lose me, Mom Donnie. 78 degrees, you're talking to a Miami boy who sweats the second he walks out the door. When I leave my house in Miami, I put the AC at 78 when I'm not in the house. That way, the, the AC is kinda like doing its thing while I'm gone, and when I get back, I'm putting that thing to 72. You can do a lot of different things to people, but when you literally start going into their

• 31:56Adam Sosnick?

  houses and telling them what to do in the confines of their house?

• 32:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 32:01Adam Sosnick?

  And not even, if, listen, if you said, "Listen, I'm recommending everybody goes to 74", everyone be like, "You know what? This guy, Mom Donnie's maybe got something." 78? This is, who, who functions like this? If I walked into anybody's house and it was 78, I'd say, "We're getting out of here. This is crazy." We live in the summertime in Miami, right here in South Florida. What do you think it is in this room right here, next door?

• 32:22Speaker 03

  It's, we're outside.

• 32:23Adam Sosnick?

  Right here.

• 32:23Speaker 03

  It's hot out there.

• 32:24Adam Sosnick?

  Hot as hell. Do you think you're trying to hang out in that room over there in the garage? Unbelievable. This proves one thing, PBD.

• 32:31Adam Sosnick?

  Our country started in 1776 with a "Don't tell me what to do with my life." A lot of these communist Marxists, they don't believe in 1776. You know what they believe in? 1848. That's their origination. Why 1848? Because what book came out in 1848? Their God, their Lord, Karl Marx, came out with the Communist Manifesto in 1848. This is where they're gonna tell you what to do with your life, seize the means of production, redistribution of wealth. Don't come to California, my America.

• 32:59Speaker 03

  Like I said before, you can take your 78 and stick it up your.

• 33:03Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what?

• 33:03Speaker 03

  Mom Donnie.

• 33:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, so there you have it. That's that's Mom Donnie for you. We'll see how this reacts. Obviously, the market reacted to it and told them what they think about it. So we'll see what happened next. Let me get to the next story that I want to get into. Since we're on New York, there's a couple that decides to climb. What do you call it? The Empire State Building.

• 33:20Speaker 03

  Just a little.

• 33:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Russian couple. And they go all the way to the top and a guy surprises him by proposing to her and kissing. And then they have the sign that they put up all the way at the top. And then while they're coming down, the cops come up and they get arrested. They get a felony. And eventually, while they're getting the felony, they were released, but this was it. If you want to show it, I don't I don't know if you have the clip or not. Do you have the clip of them climbing climbing up? I think this is it. This is him right there. I think he's about to. They're taking pictures. Can you make it bigger? By the way, no ropes around them. They're standing there, you know, let's take a selfie, babe. Let's do video. Let me call my mom. Hey, mom. Kapizvaytsi. Parasho. He's nyo.

• 33:59Speaker 03

  He's up you on top of a building?

• 34:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at these guys, looking like Calvin Klein type of model coming up with his black shirt on, him and his girl. Climbed the entire thing up and they had this sign all the way up. She looks like the girl from the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

• 34:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 34:13Patrick Bet-David?

  And so, do you guys have the clip of what they actually had? The banner? It's about love or whatever it was. I don't know if you guys have that or not. There was a banner all the way at the top.

• 34:22Speaker 03

  It is actually a good message.

• 34:22Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a good message. It's a good message of all the all the way at the top. Uh, um, state building banner. Anyway, so what did you think about this, Vinnie, when you saw this?

• 34:31Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, Pat just, well, first of all, I don't even have a speeding ticket. So when I saw faced burglary, reckless endangerment, criminal trespassing, criminal mischief. But for this one, possession of burglars' tools. I didn't even know that that is a crime. Possession of burglars' cruls, criminal tampering and disorderly conduct, like, you know what hit me though?

• 34:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Say, when the power of love beats the power, the love of power, the world, no peace.

• 35:00Speaker 03

  Beautiful, beautiful thing. You could have emailed everybody. You could have done a mass email, but I think this guy, and by the way, there's a photo.

• 35:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie, they fall, they're done.

• 35:09Speaker 03

  Absolutely, absolutely.

• 35:11Patrick Bet-David?

  But look how calm they are.

• 35:12Speaker 03

  But this is New York, Pat. If she falls and splatters, her diamond ring would have been gone in three seconds.

• 35:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Is she dressed as, is she dressed as Catwoman? Is that kind of what they're going for?

• 35:21Speaker 03

  No, they just, they just wanted to cover their faces like they thought they were gonna get away with it. But you know, you know what hit me? And by the way, kind of, do you have the photo? By the way, that gets me nauseous, where she shows her ring. She's showing her ring, which is actually a bad badass photo. If you have that, uh, show that. But this is, the one thing that hit me is this guy just ruined. Where is it? Let me see. Is there a photo of her with the ring? No, yeah, that's them afterwards. That's them come out. But he just ruined marriage proposals for every man. Every guy out there that thought.

• 35:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this them?

• 35:55Speaker 03

  That's AI, that's AI.

• 35:56Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not them.

• 35:57Speaker 03

  Yeah. But think about it. Every guy out there that thought it was cute to hide like the wedding ring and the dessert and the waiter brings out dessert.

• 36:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at that.

• 36:05Speaker 03

  Ivan is on top of the freaking Empire State Building, bro. Your dessert, you having the dog come out with like the ring tied in his collar is nothing compared to this.

• 36:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you imagine? It's like, so how are you gonna propose to me?

• 36:19Speaker 03

  Babe, I was gonna.

• 36:19Patrick Bet-David?

  On the ground, bro.

• 36:22Patrick Bet-David?

  First floor.

• 36:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, my knee.

• 36:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you gonna climb up Empire State?

• 36:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Hell, no.

• 36:27Speaker 03

  How about in the mall parking lot garage?

• 36:28Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no. First floor is what we're doing. By the way, my favorite was that what some people did, which I prefer more. These, so this other couple climbed all the way to the top. I don't know if you guys have what I just sent you.

• 36:40Speaker 03

  That's it, Pat. Look at that shot. I mean, come on. That is a sick photo, bro.

• 36:44Patrick Bet-David?

  That actually is a great shot.

• 36:45Speaker 03

  That is.

• 36:46Patrick Bet-David?

  But you know what? You could have done that with AI in five seconds. And people would have believed it anyway.

• 36:50Speaker 03

  They just lied about it.

• 36:50Patrick Bet-David?

  No matter, but this is the real ones.

• 36:52Speaker 03

  Bye LeBron.

• 36:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Climbed all the way to the top, two Laker fans. And they said, bye LeBron, we like Kobe way more. Look at this. This is the right way to do it.

• 36:59Speaker 03

  That's so funny.

• 37:00Patrick Bet-David?

  If they would have done this, I would have supported this. This is a good move on what people were doing. Tom, how did you do your proposal? How did you propose?

• 37:09Tom Ellsworth?

  We went to a place that we'd been many times before. I proposed. And Kim was very emotional. It was wonderful, wonderful. We went down to have dessert. I had already talked to her parents that day and asked them to come by where we're having dessert like at nine o'clock. And we're in there having dessert. We're just talking and waiting for her parents to show up. And Kim was so stunned. She looks up, she goes, what are they doing here? It's a true story.

• 37:33Patrick Bet-David?

  That is so funny.

• 37:34Tom Ellsworth?

  They're walking in.

• 37:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah, similar with mine. We did one as well. I have the video when I proposed. I'm like, so we're celebrating Veronica's birthday and on the way there, me and Jen are fighting and I keep saying, I don't want to go. I don't feel like going. I don't want to go. And she's like, babe, what's going on? I said, babe, I don't feel like going. So eventually we show up there and she's like, why did all these weird people show up to Veronica's birthday? I said, I have no idea. She knows everybody because she's my assistant. She's been with me for a while. And then Veronica gets a, hey, thank you so much for everybody showing up to my birthday and all this other stuff and da, da, da, da, da. And Patrick, did you want to say a couple of words? Yes. And then that's when I proposed, got him. Yeah. So it was a, it was at a restaurant in Laguna or Manhattan? I don't know where we were at.

• 38:12Adam Sosnick?

  Did you cry or did she cry? Did anybody cry?

• 38:14Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no. She definitely did cry. The video we have and it's somewhere on Facebook on how the proposal was. But if Jennifer would have said, you know, babe, if I told Jen right now, babe, how much would you like us to climb up the Empire?

• 38:29Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, Jen?

• 38:30Patrick Bet-David?

  She would say, babe, zero interest for doing that. We'd be in the same place. Adam, what do you think about this crazy story here?

• 38:36Adam Sosnick?

  These two, this couple that climbed the Empire State Building and got engaged? Let me tell you something, Pat. They better make it. Oh, yeah, they look a big. This marriage better work. If you're gonna do all this and then you announce three months later, yeah, guys, we're actually having a relationship issues. We're breaking up. The whole world will melt down. You just climbed the Empire State Building because she said she wanted to do something special for his engagement. If anybody out there has ever been maybe kind of like in a situation where your significant other maybe is pressuring you, honey, what are we doing? What's going on? And you feel the pressure and you want to do it the right way? This guy just ruined it for everybody. It's over. You want, you got engaged at a restaurant, Pat, you said?

• 39:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 39:20Adam Sosnick?

  The biz dog babe got confused. She's like, what are their parents doing here?

• 39:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly.

• 39:25Adam Sosnick?

  They better make it or there's no hope for anybody out there. You know how they say every guy is looking for his ride or die? Yeah. This chick was willing to die and jump out the Empire State Building and show her little rock off. They better make it for all mankind and for all marriages. I hope they make it with their marriage or we're all doomed.

• 39:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Their kid, like anybody they go on dinner with, the double date.

• 39:46Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly.

• 39:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Those couples are gonna hate them.

• 39:49Adam Sosnick?

  Absolutely.

• 39:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so how did you guys meet?

• 39:51Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, when Patrick went to a restaurant.

• 39:53Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, Serge took me, what's his name gonna be? Give me your Russian name. Vladimir took me to the top and he was like, nice night, you know, hallo. And then it was like, we got married. Oh my god, how would you guys get married? What did you propose? Baby, let's get out of here. Check, please. We will never go out with this couple ever again.

• 40:13Adam Sosnick?

  We met in sociology class in college.

• 40:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, let me get to the next one.

• 40:17Adam Sosnick?

  What happens if they wanted to do their wedding on top of the Empire State Building? We're all invited, we all get to show up.

• 40:22Tom Ellsworth?

  That's a small guest list.

• 40:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll text you.

• 40:24Adam Sosnick?

  How much money, how much money are you gonna do this for? Zero.

• 40:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Zero, zero. All right, next. So this next one I want to get to is a little bit disturbing, guys. I don't know why. So Jay Paul, which is a congresswoman, okay? Tells murder victim, parents, Congress has other things to do. Can you imagine? Parents are there. They lost their kid. And Jay Paul says, we have other things to do.

• 40:49Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, we've already had four. She's like, this is the fourth.

• 40:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Representative Pramila Jay Paul told the parents of children murdered by illegal immigrants that Congress has other things to do. Unfortunately, this hearing is the fourth time in this committee that we've had a hearing on sanctuary cities, the fourth time. There's many other things that we could be doing than this. Jay Paul said, I don't know if you guys have the clip on this or not. During the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Integrity and Security hearing on Tuesday, during the hearing, Jessica Gorman, mother of Sheridan Gorman, an 18-year-old Loyola University student, who was fatally shot by an illegal immigrant, criticized Democratic member of Congress, saying, I don't understand why it's only the Republican side that cares about our American children. The hearing was focused on sanctuary cities.

• 41:37Patrick Bet-David?

  If you want to play this clip, go for it. This is the exchange. Go ahead.

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• 43:54Speaker 06

  Unfortunately, it's the fourth time in this committee that we've had a hearing on sanctuary cities. There's many other things that we could be doing other than...

• 44:03Speaker 05

  Are you kidding? It's so upsetting with your butts, and you don't want to talk about this. This is the fourth hearing. Do you know what I'm thankful for? And this is so messed up, I'm going to say. I'm thankful, after hearing... I didn't even know what an angel family was. Had no idea, never even heard about it. There's so many out here. You know what I'm thankful for? It's crazy. I'm thankful that my daughter was... Just shot in the back of the head, not raped, murdered, dismembered, put in a, put in a garbage can like Meghan Boss with bleach poured on her. They didn't fire a fighter for 50 days? And you can actually dismiss the angel families? You can say but? You don't want to hear four, four sessions on angel families? I'm sorry, you need to, you need to.

• 44:47Speaker 05

  I'm actually thankful that my daughter wasn't raped. How messed up is that? That I'm thankful every day that she was just murdered, not raped and dismembered? Like, think about that. Like, how messed up is that? Do you know what I thought of this morning when I got up? What the joy of, does anyone have a baby here? The joy of picking out their first outfit that they're gonna wear on their ride home from the hospital. I had to pick out my daughter's last outfit and she was a fabulous dresser. We had 100 people come to our home. 100 friends and family came to her home.

• 45:20Speaker 03

  That's somebody crying in the back, by the way.

• 45:21Speaker 05

  We had her cremated, actually, after. And they all decorated her urn with rhinestones. All of them put it on there. She is fabulous even in death. But, but the first time, all the excitement of having a child and then having people make excuses and buts. I'm sorry.

• 45:37Speaker 03

  No buts.

• 45:38Speaker 05

  This is unacceptable. I don't, you know, there are so many angel families out here. And the day that I have to wake up and be thankful that my daughter was only shot and not raped?

• 45:48Speaker 03

  That's probably her mom crying in the back.

• 45:49Speaker 05

  Should tell you something. It's crazy.

• 45:52Speaker 03

  Wow. Ladies and gentlemen, the Democratic Party just in front of your face. Pissed off, Pat, inconvenience that this is the fourth, not the 20th, not the 50th, not the 100th, the fourth time that they're having this type of meeting so that mothers of girls that were raped, murdered, dismembered, bleach poured on them, that it's an inconvenience that they're even speaking to them. Okay? And mind you, I don't even want to say her name, this Representative Pramila, whatever the hell, not born in this country. You're not born in the country. You're a naturalized American citizen that's sitting in freaking Congress and your attitude is who can? We have better things to do than talk about-

• 46:33Speaker 03

  The murder and rape of these little girls because Joe Biden, Alejandro Mayorkas, one of the most disgusting human beings in that freaking administration, let in almost 15 million people and they don't care that they were raped and they were freaking murdered. Yeah, give, give them to have better things to do. Give me a freaking break. You, by the way, she wasn't, I don't, why would you even, I shouldn't expect anything more from her. You weren't born in this country. Why would she give a damn? She doesn't give a damn, Pat, because that's the democratic thing. Bringing as many people in as we can, give them sanctuary. This is in Chicago, if you guys remember, Tom. Jessica, Sheridan Gorman was the girl, was 18 years old, Loyola University in Chicago. She was out walking on the lakefront and this dude who was already arrested before,

• 47:16Speaker 03

  shoplifting and all that, they kept releasing him, shot her in the back of the head and killed her. Okay, imagine, imagine, Tom, I don't want to put this in your guys' head. Your daughter, God forbid something happens to your daughter, you go in front of Congress and you're trying to plead your case because you're like, hey, listen, enough of this sanctuary nonsense because you guys don't care about our children, you care more about them. For her to say, this is number four, we have better things to do, Tom. We have to talk about Trump, not about your daughter. And for a mother, Pat, to sit there and say, I can't believe she said that. When I first heard her, Pat, I got emotional. She's like, I never thought I'd say this. I'm glad she was just shot in the back of the head. Can you rap? And guys, it's hard because you can't fathom it.

• 48:01Speaker 03

  Imagine a mother, the words coming out of your mother's mouth that she's happy that you were just shot in the back of the head and not raped and dismembered. Pat, shame on her, but it doesn't surprise me from the Democratic Party and a person that's not even born in this freaking country lecturing a freaking angel mom about her daughter and them wasting her time.

• 48:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, let me tell you about her. We know who she is.

• 48:22Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 48:22Tom Ellsworth?

  I know a little bit about her and she is from Seattle. She also created the Hate Free Zone after 9/11 because she felt that immigrants were being unfairly targeted. After 9/11, she created this, she renamed it and she rebranded it. But she, she didn't even grow up in this country. She, you know where she grew up? She grew up in Indonesia. I believe it is. And then she goes to Georgetown. Georgetown gets a Bachelor of Arts degree. Worked in financial services, I believe. None of, there's no law against any of that. And by the way, welcome to the United States. I hope you do well and pay taxes. But she turns around in Seattle and she's part of this King County narrative. This deep blue in the middle of Seattle. Defund the police.

• 49:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Protect, you know, the immigrants from, from being besmirched. After nine 11? I guess there may be, maybe there was a small reaction from the American citizen after nine 11? And then she's forming these committees? This is who she is. And if you saw that picture there, you know, who was sitting next to her smirking? In that picture, if you go back, guys, that you said the picture of her in the committee? You may have already lost it. And you, because you stopped the video. It's Omar smiling and smirking next to her at the time of that, when that was, that was finished. That tells you everything you need to know. She doesn't like, she doesn't want any of the things that this woman was talking about, about her dear daughter. She doesn't want to talk about any of that.

• 49:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Cause it's inconvenient to her driving her narrative and what she's doing. And right next to her, you have Omar was sitting there with that.

• 49:59Speaker 03

  In the X video you guys were talking about.

• 50:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep, she's leaning down with a smirk.

• 50:02Speaker 03

  Pat, I'm really curious. You're a freaking father. You have daughters. God forbid something happens and you're there. How do you react to a member, a sitting member of Congress saying, looking at your face going, this is, we have better things to do than talk about. This is the fourth time. How do you, how do you, how do you take that?

• 50:21Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you, is, is different. It's, it's the great thing about everything that we have is the audience gets to see and decide on how heartless some of these folks are and how much it's politics over actual things that are happening. You know, one can mourn for another person who politically is not on the same page as you and still mourn the loss of that individual and feel unsympathize with the parent. Especially if this is your job. Your job is to protect the next kid from that happening to them. And you say you're busy? You say you're busy, it's like that one? Tom, what was that story with Shell CEO? When he got up and he said something like, "You know, the last 24 hours have been the worst something of my life."

• 51:05Patrick Bet-David?

  And then they're like, "Your life?" That person lost their life. Who were you? Who was Shell CEO? Who was the person? Do you remember who it was? Was it Exxon or Shell CEO? I don't know if you remember the story or not. This was three or four years ago when somebody said something about the big oil incident that happened. Don't know if you guys remember this. You have to understand the moment of it, of what that person's going through. It's a shame. It's a shame to me to see what happened here, but I think it's good for the audience to see exactly where people's values lies. You have to have empathy when somebody goes through something like this. What is worse than losing your child? Nothing. Nothing. And they just went through and that's how you want to answer? Well, guess what?

• 51:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Now we see where you stand. Now we see where you stand. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 51:53Adam Sosnick?

  This is incredibly sad story. This comes down to one thing. Do you remember during the State of the Union, when Trump stood up? And this was sort of like the biggest takeaway, when he stood up and he said, "All right, guys, stand up if you prioritize American citizens over illegal immigrants." And half the room stood up and half the room sat down. And you know what? I respect it. They completely revealed their hand. They just admitted that they literally will not stand up for American citizens and they will put illegal immigrants above American citizens because this is part of the whole open border strategy. And open borders have consequences and they don't want to own up to their consequences.

• 52:38Adam Sosnick?

  I'll tell you a quick story about these angel families, speaking of the State of the Union. When Trump gave that speech, do you remember where I was? I was in DC interviewing all the congressmen and congresswomen on the invitation of Lisa McClain. There's a quick video that I could show right here. I think it's five seconds. And I got to witness Republican congressmen and congressmen women honoring the Angel family right after interviewing all these guys and they were basically saying like stand up and say a few words was Lisa McClain Chairwoman Lisa McClain put it together Byron Daniels give a speech the great Brandon Gill had a few things to say and they're all basically saying hey guys let's stand up for victims of illegal immigrants who have killed people and by the way Democrats you're invited

• 53:21Adam Sosnick?

  to be here and guess how many Democrats showed up precisely zero and that's the biggest problem guys I totally understand if you have empathy for immigrants or a country that you know we're open arms but you have to do it legally and when illegal people start murdering and killing and you can't say that that's wrong that's the biggest challenge that I have with the Democratic

• 53:41Speaker 03

  But you're and again and I'm not I'm not judging them but I don't understand what what type of brainwash has to happen to an average American and I get it I get the message I get what they're doing to think that because of their policies at them for four years board open border bring them all in because we want the votes don't don't that's why they're fighting save America Act all that stuff it's votes put that all that all that mumbo jumbo they're looking for votes so they can't admit it they can't say hey listen you know what because of this because we want to keep our power because we have to cheat to win yeah you know only 6,000 kids were raped or killed or or murdered and then you can't even admit that it's sad it's you can't even give

• 54:21Speaker 03

  like some type of empathy to a mother you have to say hey this is the this is the fourth time

• 54:27Patrick Bet-David?

  we have better I want to show you this so this is Tony Howard okay Tony Howard in this instance BP CEO he makes this comment I don't know if you guys remember this after do you remember this Tom

• 54:40Adam Sosnick?

  The well

• 54:40Patrick Bet-David?

  The Deepwater Horizon explosion happens he loses employees after an employee was killed has spoke emotionally about how the death affected him and the company and then here's what he had to say in the interview I sent the video clip to you guys if you want to pull it up I literally just text it to you you have it right there if you guys look at your phones yes right here watch this okay

• 55:02Speaker 03

  We're sorry. We're sorry for the massive disruption it's caused to their lives. And, you know, we're, there's no one who wants this thing over more than I do. You know, I'd like my life back.

• 55:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I'd like my life back. I'd like my life back. And people are like, you would like your life back? Your employee is dead. What do you mean you want your, so every once in a while, you're gonna, you're gonna show, you know, with words, you have to be careful with words, and this was a bad look for her. So I'd like to go to the next story. I don't want to stay on this story. Let's go to the next one. So next story I want to get into is what happened there with public trust for polls? And so Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one. This has to do with Jill Biden and Spotify. Both stories kind of have to go together. You'll see why as I, as I read this to you. First, Jill Biden's memoir, Sell, appeared to be manipulated by bulk sales.

• 55:54Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a zero hedge story. So bulk sales, why would it be manipulated by bulk sales? Jill Biden's memoir, View, uh, uh, From the East Wing, debuted at number one on the New York Times Hardcover Nonfiction Bestseller List, with a dagger, the symbol on the paper, uses when it believes sales include a mix of organic and bulk purchases. The book quickly fell to number three the following week before disappearing off the list. Sir Connabook Scan reported a similar decline with a memoir dropping to number two and number five and number 16 in its hardcover nonfiction by the weekend, June 20. It had sold 3,221 print copies, bringing US total sales to 29,000. You know how terrible that is? You're a first lady, you sold 29,000 copies?

• 56:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Just to kind of put in perspective, do you know how many copies Michelle Obama's book sold? Do you know how many copies Michelle Obama's book sold?

• 56:43Tom Ellsworth?

  A million?

• 56:44Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no, no. Michelle Obama's book, if you can pull it up.

• 56:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Is this Becoming?

• 56:51Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, that's actually the name.

• 56:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Is it really?

• 56:52Patrick Bet-David?

  How many copies did Michelle Obama's, uh, book sell? The number is an insane number. Michelle Obama's book, look, lover or hater, first day, she sold 725,000 copies, Vinnie, first day.

• 57:08Patrick Bet-David?

  First 15 days, 2 million. First four months, 10 million. Oh, wow. By 2020, 15 million copies. She sold 6, she sold 20 million copies off her book. That's Michelle Obama. And there's no fixing and all that. This is actually, people wanted to buy her book. Of course. 65 million dollar book dealers what she got with Penguin Random House. Random House. When People's House, she made her money. They actually wanted to read her book. She had a fan base. Joe Biden, 29,000 copies. Gee. You're a first lady. You sold 29,000 copies of a book. Statistician Nate Silver highlighted that the usual pattern after the rankings were released, not everyone viewed the dagger as evidence of manipulation. Lauren Capillo, founder of Leverage Media, said, "I don't think there's anything sinister

• 57:52Patrick Bet-David?

  about it," arguing bulk purchases are common for book tours, book tour events and conferences, which is true. She probably had bulk purchases, but because she's on the book tour, that would make sense. She also noted that the memoir remained on the USA Bestseller list, that an article counters that many bestselling authors go on book tours without receiving the dagger designation, suggesting Joe Biden's bulk. So to get a dagger, you know who gets the dagger on that list? Vinnie and Tom, correct me on this. Business authors, self-help authors, because they'll order 10,000 copies themselves for an event and they'll give it away or they'll run an event. So you'll get that little dagger on. What does the dagger signify? The dagger means that there's bulk purchases that you made to get on this list. Yeah. Okay?

• 58:37Patrick Bet-David?

  But for you to get that as the first lady? Yeah. As the first lady? Who's buying this in bulk? Maybe donors. It is events, though. But donors is the one that they're going through. So that, that story's a little bit weird for a first lady. And by the way, this clip, when we post this clip, this is not going to perform that well, this clip. You know why? Because most people are not interested. Yeah. If only 29,000 people bought Jill Biden's book, who is the first lady?

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• 1:01:14Patrick Bet-David?

  The most important woman in the world is president's wife. You only do 29,000 at the time. That's embarrassing. And then this kind of goes to the story with Spotify. And Tom, I'm going to read both of them and I'll hand it over to you to go through. Then Spotify deletes some stream charts because their concern is a similar thing. Hey, is there some manipulation going on right now with some of the music that we have? Spotify has removed more than a half a million streams. of a song that shot to number one in the US chart after discovering that the surge in streaming coincided with a jump in suspicious wagers on prediction markets calcied the US streams of earnings earrings on the indie pop track by singer songwriter Malcolm Todd rose to almost 70% between Sunday and Monday on Spotify that propelled the song first

• 1:01:59Patrick Bet-David?

  release in 2024 to number one on platforms daily US chart. Tom, what do these two stories have in common?

• 1:02:06Tom Ellsworth?

  What they have in common is that we are being gaslit and we are being manipulated as consumers. They want us to believe, well, this is number one. And you have things happening. This is the this is the number one song. Well, maybe, maybe, maybe I'll go listen to it. Maybe I'll go do this. Oh, this is the top book. Oh, maybe I'll get a copy of that. They're trying to create momentum for themselves to manipulate the marketing to the consumer. And by the way, that's the same thing that they've done in political polling, which is why we went 16 weeks being very careful of the pollings we found. And we found out that Atlas Intel and Rasmussen were the most accurate. How do we know? We looked at the

• 1:02:49Tom Ellsworth?

  results of the election and then we went back 10 weeks and said, who's telling the truth? Who appears to be there? This is an erosion of public trust. The public pack can't trust what they see. Which is the top ranked a book on this topic? Well, this one. How do I know? And I'm putting my $25 to buy a book on whatever it is, self-help or whatever. And I want to see this. And then you see this manipulation. And by the way, you know, I don't know which donors were bulk buying for Joe Biden. They certainly weren't paying for the library, which hasn't got above $4 million yet. And it's just it's disgusting, Pat. I really think it's disgusting. And it comes out. It's about to happen. Because if you think that the Russian hoax and everything they wanted to do on Trump was, wait till

• 1:03:32Tom Ellsworth?

  you see what they want to do to conservatives. Wait till you see what the major news networks use. Atlas Intel, Patriot Polling, Emerson College, all showed really well for us. Remember those days? Talked about it? And then you had all these others. So this is an erosion of public trust, but you know what works good? When when Kalshi and prediction come out there, it's very different when a thousand people put $2 each down and said, this is who I think is going to win the election in my city based of what I'm seeing. That is far more accurate, and it's proving to be accurate because we look at the before and after. We look at what happens before.

• 1:04:10Speaker 03

  I think God just agreed with you, Tom. I don't know if you heard that thunder right there.

• 1:04:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to read this.

• 1:04:14Tom Ellsworth?

  The Democrat god of polling is coming for me.

• 1:04:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So let me do what I just did, Tom. I just pulled up which first lady has sold the most copies of their memoir. Let's just kind of find out how they've done. Okay. And here's the numbers that came up. Let me just kind of pull it up for you. Who do you think's number one? Should be very easy.

• 1:04:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Obama.

• 1:04:34Patrick Bet-David?

  We just talked about it. Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama sold more copies with her memoir than all the other first ladies combined.

• 1:04:41Tom Ellsworth?

  I believe that.

• 1:04:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Hillary Clinton sold 3 million copies, give or take, of her memoir.

• 1:04:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Maybe.

• 1:04:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Laura Bush, 1 million. Barbara Bush, 1 million. Nancy Reagan, few hundred thousand. Rosalynn Carter, this is Jimmy Carter's wife. They say Jimmy Carter is the worst president of the last 50, 60 years. He's on that list. His wife sold half a million copies, 400,000 copies. Betty Ford, next. Lady Bird Johnson, next. Melania Trump, on her first print, life sells not yet public first week US print, 85,000. Jill Biden, 30,000 copies sold. Can you think about that number? 30,000 copies sold, Jill Biden. Very interesting when you look at these numbers to see what they've done and where they're at for the little interest they have for Jill Biden.

• 1:05:31Speaker 03

  And you know why, Pat? Why do you think so? I think it's because, I mean, think about, they were sold this Joe Biden, he's going to say, oh, because it was anti-Trump, anti-Trump, anti-Trump. Then, after all the four years, people realized like, oh my God, he's not even mentally competent. He's a shell of himself. She's the one taking photos, Tom. Air Force One, like she's the boss and she's doing this. All the reports coming out. That it wasn't Joe, she was kind of running the show with a couple of aides. Hunter was apparently in meetings that he shouldn't have been in. And you know what? The market found out, all these people that were lied to, that hey, you know what? Nobody really cares about her. She doesn't look like a pleasant person. She just comes out, she wheels him out to try to sell a book. And no matter what happens, you can't lie to people for that long because at some

• 1:06:16Adam Sosnick?

  She goes on The View and slips up and says she's not a doctor.

• 1:06:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:06:20Adam Sosnick?

  We all knew, remember that? So it's like, yeah, Joe is mentally competent. I'm not even a doctor. Whoops way, woo.

• 1:06:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly. And what's, what's her book? I can see Michelle's, okay? Michelle, yay, we're in the White House, probably complained about everything because that's all she does. But with Jill Biden, like what, what's in her book? What, what would it be? I had to take Joe from here to here. I had to remind him, you did a good job, Joe. You got every question right, Joe. Like people realize, well, those people, because mind you, she's not selling this to Republicans. What Republican woman is going to buy Jill Biden's book? It's all the leftists and you found out that none of them support you? Because they all know that you guys are all full of crap.

• 1:06:56Adam Sosnick?

  And you don't have a library either.

• 1:06:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, you don't have a library. You don't, nobody cares, guys. Everybody knows what Joe Biden was. Joe Biden was put in there, put in there, propped up in there because it was anything but Trump. Anything but Trump. And then we all got to see what he was about.

• 1:07:09Adam Sosnick?

  Let's just drop the mic right here. You don't have a library, so you don't need a book.

• 1:07:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, bye.

• 1:07:13Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let me get to the next story. Adam, if you've got anything you want to say about this?

• 1:07:16Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, just, it, it proves one thing, that the Democratic establishment is cooked. You know, a Nancy Pelosi or a Joe Biden or a Chuck Schumer endorsement from a candidate will actually hurt you at this point. Unless you're a DSA member and you're endorsed by Mom Donnie and you're advocating for literal communism, the Democratic Party wants nothing to do with you. Just as one little evidence that nobody wants Jill Biden's book.

• 1:07:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody wants what?

• 1:07:41Adam Sosnick?

  Jill Biden's book.

• 1:07:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean,

• 1:07:43Adam Sosnick?

  Or anything to do with the establishment Democratic Party.

• 1:07:45Patrick Bet-David?

  That part's, that part's pretty obvious on what happened over there. So let's get to the next story. Next story I want to get to is kid maxing. Ultimate state status symbol, kids maxing, kids maxing. I mean, we've heard about looks maxing, all this stuff, but kids maxing? And this is a New York Times story. It's not like it's a, it's a New York Times story. So let me get to it. What is this kids maxing stuff? And birth rates are falling across much of the developed world, but some ultra wealthy men are pursuing fatherhood on an unprecedented scale, using surrogacy, sperm donation, IVF and other reproductive technologies.

• 1:08:22Patrick Bet-David?

  They are creating dozens or even hundreds of children highlighting what is described as inequality made flesh at a time when many ordinary families feel they cannot afford even one child. Examples include Stefan Soloviev, who has 22 children, Pavel Durov, who is a Telegram guy, who says his sperm donations have produced more than 100 children, Greg Lindberg, who reportedly expanded his family to at least 12 children through what he called a baby project and claims that some wealthy Chinese businessman have sought to father hundreds of children through US surrogacy agencies. Elon Musk, who has 14 known children, reportedly who wants to use surrogate to reach a legion level and joked

• 1:09:03Patrick Bet-David?

  at Durov's total represented rookie numbers, laugh of my ass off Genghis Khan. Many of these men appear to view spreading their DNA as a public good. Musk has said smart or even rich people should have more children. Durov called the sperm high-quality donor material. Jeffrey Epstein reportedly admired a sperm bank associated with Nobel Prize winners. The common thread is a belief that their bloodlines deserve to be multiplied. Modern reproductive technology allows these ambitions to expand far beyond historical limits. IVF and surrogacy make it possible to create many pregnancies simultaneously while selecting traits such as sex or screening embryos for disease. One egg donor said

• 1:09:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Lindberg wanted 12 blond-haired, blue-eyed boys, while Epstein's email reflected a similar fixation on blue eyes. Musk has reportedly used polygenic embryo screening. Tom, what do you think about the story?

• 1:09:57Tom Ellsworth?

  So, I wonder if the New York Times understands that kid-maxing involves not having abortions.

• 1:10:05Patrick Bet-David?

  That's so funny. You are so funny. You know what? You're a comic, Tom.

• 1:10:11Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no. I'm just wondering if the New York Times-

• 1:10:13Adam Sosnick?

  I'm actually with Tom on that joke.

• 1:10:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I wonder if they realize-

• 1:10:16Adam Sosnick?

  He doesn't get the credit he deserves.

• 1:10:17Tom Ellsworth?

  I wonder if the editorial board realizes what this story actually meant. So you know what, this has been going on for a while. I mean, you go, you go back. The reason they bring up Genghis Khan is because there were these leaders in history that wanted to have many kids and they wanted their heritage to be spread. And so, you know, do I think that there's people out there doing this? Yeah, I do. You know, I think it's kind of messed up. I think if you're gonna have kids, make them yours, you and your wife, raise them, you know, build great citizens out of them, build great people out of them. That's what I think. You know, I've just, just creating a larger mob in the name of yourself. And, you know, we saw

• 1:10:59Tom Ellsworth?

  the flaw in the Epstein, where he wrote about that. We saw that terrible, terrible flaw where you're just out there trying to, you know, spread your progeny everywhere. And so, you know, I see the impulse to it. But if you want to have a big family, make it yours. Raise them yours.

• 1:11:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 1:11:18Adam Sosnick?

  This is an interesting conversation. Obviously Elon Musk is leading the league on kid maxing.

• 1:11:25Adam Sosnick?

  But it's just evidence that as a man, you know, they say the rich get richer. You're familiar with the K-shaped economy, you know, the top is doing well and the bottom is doing poorly. This is just evidence that if you're a man and you kind of get your stuff together, you have options. Now, I'm not condoning something like this, but I understand that there's a lot of guys that do. I'll actually tell you a funny story about that. But the top 10% of men, whether it becomes looks maxing, or money maxing, or status maxing, you have options. And what are the options that you have? Where to live, what to do, what women, and what you want to do with your children. So juxtapose that with the bottom 50% of men are just trying to get a girlfriend, much less married, much less kid maxing out here and having multiple kids from multiple moms. I'll tell you a quick story. I don't think

• 1:12:10Adam Sosnick?

  it's a secret. Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate and some of their friends, we were talking about this one time, and they were like, listen, I have this thing, and I have this thing, and I have this thing, and all these different women and these different kids. And I said, I hear you guys. And they're kind of advocating, this is maybe something you're interested in doing. I go, guys. It sounds really complicated, like how are you dealing with time zones, baby mama drama, baby drama, they're like, listen, you gotta be built for this. I go, guys, respectfully, I don't think I'm built for this. I'm just trying to do one right now. So, I understand that really, really rich guys maybe want to do something like this, but I just want to give PBD a shout out, four kids, leader. I think most men understand that, you know,

• 1:12:53Adam Sosnick?

  have a family, have kids, raise them, be with them together, and that's probably the best approach, but again, I'm not gonna hate on the guys that want to have the benefits of success.

• 1:13:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. If, if, if all of a sudden, I sat down with you guys, and I said, Vinny, let's just say, Tom, we're having a conversation, the three of us, and, and, and the four of us, and I said, guys, I, I want to go out there and go to a sperm bank and donate a hundred, because I want to have a hundred David kids out there. What, what would you tell me? Just have a conversation as if we're friends. What would you tell me? Vinny, here's what I want to do. It's gonna cost me, surrogacy's gonna cost me a hundred thousand dollars a pop. I get to pick the mom to make sure they're healthy, and I'm gonna do it a hundred kids, is what I want to do. It's gonna cost me ten million dollars, but I want to make that investment. What do you guys think about it?

• 1:13:43Adam Sosnick?

  I would just ask you why you want to do something like this.

• 1:13:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Why? Because the birth rate is low, and I want to be able to, again, I'm

• 1:13:49Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, we're just role playing, of course, of course.

• 1:13:51Patrick Bet-David?

  The birth rate is low, I can't afford it, I'd like to contribute to society, and this is one of the way we're doing it.

• 1:13:56Adam Sosnick?

  Are you planning on taking care of these hundred kids?

• 1:13:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Um, I, I would be willing to give a certain amount of money to them, but upfront, a hundred thousand dollars to the mother who chooses to have this baby.

• 1:14:05Adam Sosnick?

  And then what is the benefit of you doing this? I know you want to contribute to the birth rate, but a hundred kids is not gonna change the birth rate.

• 1:14:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Say, say the argument would be, you know, the, the access to a good DNA, strong DNA, strong genes, that these kids could go out there and be a net positive to society.

• 1:14:21Adam Sosnick?

  I'm just role playing, and I'll, I'll take over. Is this more about your legacy? And like, and the world being shaped by you, or do you actually want to be a father for all these kids? Which one is it?

• 1:14:30Patrick Bet-David?

  A little bit of both, but the bigger part is the 1.58, 1.58 birth rate.

• 1:14:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, but you're not really moving the needle with 100 kids.

• 1:14:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I think I'm helping it. I'm helping.

• 1:14:42Tom Ellsworth?

  You're doing your part.

• 1:14:43Speaker 03

  But Pat, here's my thing. From a Christian perspective, which I know that you are, I think you know this, children are a blessing. It's not a trophy. God doesn't care if you have one or if you have 10, but I think God cares about how you raise them. And being a father isn't just making babies, it's raising them, okay? And a woman, man and the woman who love God and have character and make the world better. If you're just putting them out there, Pat, that's 100 moms that have this kid, no father, no, they're not watching the social media, the pornography, the school, the trans, the... I get to see you. My father was there, but he wasn't there. I get to see how Tom raises his daughters. I get to see every single day how you do it with all, with the girls and the boys. And I see it, and I don't even know how you do it.

• 1:15:28Speaker 03

  The work that you guys put into these children to make them amazing human beings. And I'm seeing, for the past four years, I'm seeing it, Pat. And I don't think it's possible to do that with all these kids. God forbid. Pat, what if they all turn into some America-hating socialist, you know, what is the, Adam, Sharia law-loving?

• 1:15:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:15:50Speaker 03

  You know, everybody hating America. Like, the odds of them, Pat, turning into the kids that you have made up to this point, I think are slim to none. The goal isn't to have the most kids. I think it's to raise adults who stand on their own.

• 1:16:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I would say this. I would say, Pat, you know what? You can have those surrogates, 100,000 each, deliver a baby. How do you deliver a great person into that society at 18 years old? To live, work, and be what you want? Because you're not, I know you, Pat, you're not just thinking about the birth rate. You're thinking about the quality of those people, what they believe in, what they do. How do you deliver that? You can deliver the baby, why not just, why not just adopt 100 today and shape them?

• 1:16:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but it's the DNA. It's the DNA, the wire. So the audience, the argument to that would be the DNA, the wiring, the genetics, the bloodline. You're coming from that bloodline, and that's, that's, man wants to procreate. That's what man wants to do. They want to procreate. You know what would make me think about with this? And listen, we're just having this argument right now, just a very basic conversation. Is back in the days, how many times would kids see their fathers? Actually, think about it.

• 1:16:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Here's that work.

• 1:16:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Your wife got pregnant, you're gonna go out there and hunt, and then you come back. You would go to war, you would protect, you would do all this other stuff. And I'm not talking about... Fifty years ago, I'm talking about for a couple thousand years. That's kind of what life was like. So this whole thing about being here all the time around your kids. This is a new thing. This is a fifty, sixty, eighty year thing. This is not a five hundred year thing. This is not even a three hundred year thing that we have. But let me, let me give it on the opposite side and argue my own point. Raising a kid is about five hundred five minute conversations. Not about one or one weekend spending time with them or, you know, five weekends spending time with them. No, it's about five hundred five minute conversations that they want to have with daddy

• 1:17:43Patrick Bet-David?

  while they're going through different issues in their lives. And that's how you shape them. There are a lot of parents who, same genetics, same mom and dad. One kid comes out and say that person didn't get a lot of attention and they end up being a rebel and then they don't do anything. And then there are those that you can shape their mindset and they can do a good thing. So it's not just DNA. This thing is hard. Like this webinar that we did last week for fathers webinar. I've never done a webinar that the show ratio was that high. It was the biggest showing we ever had on the webinar, right? Talked about the twenty rules for fathers, the, you know, the phase that every man needs to go through, how fathers are judged. It takes forty years for us to be judged. Then are your kids a net positive to society? And last but not least, do they yearn your company years after they no longer need you? Do they want? I don't know. It's like, hey, man.

• 1:18:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Six types of fathers I thought was so powerful.

• 1:18:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And so, you know, by the way, if you didn't get a chance to watch it, if you go to VTwebinar.com, register, they'll send a link to you. Um, I, I, I don't know. There's a part of me that likes that these guys are using their resources. If, if you have to choose between one of two, I, I want, I want you to process this. And audience, I, I'd like to hear from you as well. You got one guy who's a billionaire who is willing to put his resources, IVF, whatever it is, and have a hundred plus kids. Or a guy who's a billionaire and says, I don't want to have any kids. Which one is a net positive to society?

• 1:19:05Patrick Bet-David?

  No family, neither one wants to get married and have kids. One guy saying, "I'll give the money away and hey, 100 kids, 100 girls, you guys go do your thing." The other one, "Nope, I just want to live for myself selfishly." Who's a more net positive to society? Neither wants to get married. Neither wants the responsibility of the day-to-day father.

• 1:19:22Tom Ellsworth?

  On the surface, it's the procreating one, but I really want to know his motivations and how he's going to ensure that those kids are not like... Look at the Kennedy grandchildren. Delinquents from A to Z. There's like 2, 3. You go take a look at it. If you don't get involved, 500, 5-minute conversations, great, then you've got a bunch of rich kids that are delinquents that are impacting the rest of us.

• 1:19:45Adam Sosnick?

  I think what you're saying with raising the kids, Pat, is more is caught than taught. I know you've talked about this. PBD?

• 1:19:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:53Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, gotcha. I want you to react to this. You know the famous quote, "Any man can be a father, but it takes a special man to be a dad." I think that's kind of what you're saying, is it not?

• 1:20:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I am. But what I'm trying to say is, I'm wondering if you have between the two, who is going to be a bigger net positive to society? We can transition to the next story, because this one, I kind of got the gist of what I wanted from this story. Next one is PlayStation, video games. Okay, no more discs. We want discs. We want the ownership. We want to feel like we got a disc. No, well, we're just going to give it a download it on your system and that's all it's going to be. No, no, I want my disc. I want to make sure I have the disc. I'm going to read this to you. And I wonder how you process this. And Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one, because it is a big story. A lot of people are not happy about this story because they're sitting around saying, "Hey, if I'm buying this thing, I want..." Let me see what page you... "I want a physical..."

• 1:20:48Patrick Bet-David?

  "I want a physical disc of the video game to be given to me. That's what I want." No? You know, you're going to be fine just with the download. No, I want the disc. So let me read this. Brands smell blood in the water after PlayStation access game discs and they're roasting Sony for it. This is a Business Insider story. This is a Business Insider story that we have here. Okay, so let me go through it. Sony's decision to stop making physical discs for its PlayStation games, starting in 2020, it has opened the floodgates for brands eager to score points online. Within hours of the announcement, companies ranging from creators of privacy software to fried kitchen chains piled on using the PlayStation all-digital

• 1:21:28Patrick Bet-David?

  future as fodder for jokes. Sony said the shift reflects the fact that the general preference for digital media's significancy significantly outpaces that for physical discs. The post tapped into a broader backlash from fans who have expressed worry about ownership, media preservation, and what happens when everything lives behind a download. Tom, what is your position with this?

• 1:21:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll tell you where it's positioned. I was part of one of these suits. So, once upon a time, there was a company called Vudu. And guys, if you could go look that up, V-U-D-U, and look up Vudu box, like 2010.

• 1:22:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm on it.

• 1:22:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep. And you'll see, you bought a physical box that would download movies, and then you own those movies, and they were the quality of LaserDiscs. They were, it was a set-top player, but it was high-quality. So, I jumped in because Vudu was invested in by Benchmark Capital and a guy named Bill Gurley. And so, I heard about all this, I saw, wow, this is really cool. I can own the content digitally stored in my box. Real cool. Well, Walmart buys Vudu, and then subscriptions comes along, and it changed. And then, you ready for this? By the way, these things had, at the time, 1 terabyte hard drives.

• 1:22:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Back then.

• 1:22:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Back then. Back then.

• 1:22:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Back then, they didn't want me. Now I'm hot, they're all on me. You know that song?

• 1:22:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly. And so, what happened was, you had all of this stuff being stored there, Walmart buys Vudu, and then Walmart decides they're not going to do it anymore. They shut down the box. I own the movies. I bought the movies. And it gets over to Fandango.

• 1:23:14Tom Ellsworth?

  And then you know what Fandango did, Pat?

• 1:23:15Patrick Bet-David?

  What'd they do?

• 1:23:16Tom Ellsworth?

  They changed the pricing and changed the subscription.

• 1:23:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Damn Fandango.

• 1:23:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Wait a minute. When you were Vudu, I bought copies of The Godfather at Vudu. Then I bought copies of Jaws. Those were mine. Then it gets sold to Walmart, get it? And then it gets sold to Fandango. And finally, Fandango, it was like a $9 million lawsuit, nine or $10 million, Pat. That, and by the way, you know who that money went to? The Vudu users. And so this is the tip of the iceberg.

• 1:23:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I love you, Tom.

• 1:23:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you see how it came back?

• 1:23:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:23:47Tom Ellsworth?

  It came back. So this is people saying the same thing. Wait a minute. If I buy Call of Duty, I want the disc. If you ever go away, I want the ability to keep the game I bought. And in the area of, and by the way, what if you sell to somebody else? What, because they've seen this movie before, Pat? So the video game people are well aware of what happened. The Vudu box, one terabyte drive, downloading movies, sold to Walmart. They screw it up, sold to Fandango, they screw it up. My opinion, as a consumer, I think those, both of those things were screwed up. That's my assessment. And then you end up in a classified lawsuit. Do you understand, Pat? Everybody thought they owned their movies.

• 1:24:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you, how often, how often has Apple removed movies that users bought? Because licensing agreement expired. How often has this happened with Apple? Who else should I put there? Netflix?

• 1:24:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Hang on. I did a case study on Netflix and I had Brooker come on at 10 years old. And you know what she did? She comes on there and says, well, the biz doc now got us Disney Plus because all my movies disappeared from Netflix.

• 1:25:00Patrick Bet-David?

  But that's different though, Tom. That's different because Netflix and you know, Disney left and started their own OTT. I'm talking about something else. That is one, but I'm wondering. So it actually hasn't happened. It's rare. In 2018, a few user movies disappeared from their libraries after studio licensing changed. Apple restored access for some customers and explained that rights issued can't, can affect availability. country changes. Some users have temporarily lost access after changing the country associated with their Apple account. Okay, so that one makes sense. There's no evidence that Apple regularly removes purchased movies, considering Apple has sold hundreds of millions of digital movies for nearly 20 years. Only a small number of cases with Netflix is different because it doesn't sell digital movie purchases. Netflix licenses movies.

• 1:25:45Patrick Bet-David?

  TV subscription when a license agreement expires, the title simply leaves the catalog. Since users have never purchased a movie, Netflix is now removing it, which makes sense. Sony PlayStation announced it would remove 551 purchased movies because a licensing agreement. So that one is true. So Sony screwed up there and Sony in 2022 removed 314 Studio Canal titles in part of Europe after a licensing dispute. And then in 2023, Sony Discovery content planned to remove purchased Discovery shows, but reversed course after public backlash and reached a new licensing agreement. So then that makes sense. So Apple, I'm buying, hasn't happened. Netflix, they're buying licensing and I'm paying monthly, so it's okay if it happens. Sony's the only one that screwed up here, which

• 1:26:30Patrick Bet-David?

  we'll see what happened with the market reacting to the video games.

• 1:26:32Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll give you more angle. What if? What if a new president doesn't like the games that are on there because they think they're too violent? Or in Call of Duty, you're shooting people from another country and they decided that country is not so bad. And they tell Sony to take that game down. And people have paid 34 bucks for the game. And they're sitting there. Right?

• 1:27:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:27:03Tom Ellsworth?

  That's that's what I fear. What I fear is content censorship. When somebody legitimately bought a piece of content, they want that disc so that they know they own Call of Duty or whatever the game is. They own it forever. And is it feasible that you could have an administration that doesn't like this content or that content or doesn't like how this or that? And then can turn it off? What do you think Brandon Carr's job was on day one? Was to protect podcasts like this one, Brandon Carr's chairman of the FCC? Was to protect us from being shadow banned or crippled?

• 1:27:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Or taken off?

• 1:27:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Thank you, Brandon. Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:27:40Adam Sosnick?

  They just pull up the wrong Brandon Carr. They pull up an NFL player. This is, you know me and my video games, I don't endorse it. I don't play it. In recent memories, the second time I think you've brought up video games, you talked about Grand Theft Auto. You're bringing this up. What's going on? Is there something that you? Yeah, how do you feel about video games? Why is this something that you want to talk about again?

• 1:27:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I, no, no, I think it's business strategy that's dumb. You can't lose your customers and to me, there is an element of like, like, listen, a lot of people have moved over to Kindle. Okay, and they like Kindle, reading Kindles. I'm not a fan. I like, if you see me, I always have a physical book with me. Cause I like the sentimental meaning of reading a book. I get some people that are, I, I, I like that. Now, don't get me wrong. I don't listen to music on cassette tapes. I don't have that sentimental, even though Eazy-E back in the days, Real Mother, you know what, geez. You're gonna hit him up. We know you're gonna hit him up. So, I didn't listen to a lot of Christian music back in the days, but, but to me, I think it's the sentimental side of having that. The movie side,

• 1:28:42Patrick Bet-David?

  where you know, back in the days, like my sister had a collection of all the Disney movies and it was a big deal. The VHS Disney, because some of these things are very, very expensive. My dad had it as well. And so you collected it. It was something that we have in our family as well, those DVDs you collect. I, I, I just, I just, I understand the nostalgic desire of, yeah, these things, like people have these types of collections. There's something special about it because it's a bond. So for video games, I get the younger audience saying that.

• 1:29:09Adam Sosnick?

  I got you now. Now I want to understand this. One of the things that people are fascinated about when they come to Valuetainment, there's the hangar, there's the car, they come and see the thing in front of your office, the Reed?

• 1:29:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:29:20Adam Sosnick?

  Filled with books? People go, oh my god.

• 1:29:21Speaker 03

  Is that what it's?

• 1:29:22Adam Sosnick?

  It says Reed.

• 1:29:23Speaker 03

  I thought it said read.

• 1:29:24Adam Sosnick?

  I know you thought you said read, I know. Road also, for roads. But I get it. I'm gonna teach you how to read one of these days. But there's something nostalgic about that. For instance, I have all my CDs in a case like this, collecting dust. There's certain things that we don't have that. People like the physical touch, like for instance, why do people invest in real estate? They want to be able to touch the assets. I invest in REITs, Real Estate Investment Trust. Cause I'm not trying to get my hands dirty, trying to be a pretty boy out here. But there is something nostalgic about holding a book and reading it, even if you use an audible to go along with it.

• 1:29:53Patrick Bet-David?

  This used to be one of my first sets back in the days. That was the set.

• 1:29:56Speaker 03

  Look at you.

• 1:29:57Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way. Good work team in the back. You guys are speedy today.

• 1:30:01Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:30:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You're fast today.

• 1:30:02Adam Sosnick?

  I'm impressed.

• 1:30:03Patrick Bet-David?

  So, yeah, this used to be the first, uh, uh,

• 1:30:06Adam Sosnick?

  PBD, how old were you here?

• 1:30:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm probably 18 years old.

• 1:30:09Adam Sosnick?

  That's tough.

• 1:30:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, this is 20, this is, I'm 36. I'm 36, 37 years old.

• 1:30:15Adam Sosnick?

  You know how I always know how old PBD is? I can do it every single time. Show me his haircut.

• 1:30:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:30:20Adam Sosnick?

  If there's a, if there's a, show me his haircut. Show me his goatee.

• 1:30:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me get to the next, let me get to the next. By the way, there's a list that comes out. I'll get to that here as well. But this, this is a funny story. A man sues Pepsi 30 years ago because Pepsi did this campaign. If you can't even pull up the campaign when they did this back in the days, because you guys showed me this video yesterday. They, they, they do this thing about, hey, we're going to give a fighter jet. And so this one guy decides to go and do every single thing required to win this thing. And then all of a sudden, I don't know what page the Pepsi stories on. Oh, there it is. I found it. Man who sued Pepsi over fighter jets finally gets his reward 30 years later. This is the original commercial, by the way, from October 30, 1995. Watch this, go ahead.

• 1:31:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, my God. This is how commercials sounded.

• 1:31:10Adam Sosnick?

  Hear the audio?

• 1:31:11Patrick Bet-David?

  That is terrible. Can we get past the six seconds? Yeah, go a little bit. All right, let's see it.

• 1:31:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, it's that long.

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• 1:33:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Introducing the new Pepsi stuff catalog.

• 1:33:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, the more Pepsi you drink, the more great stuff you're going to get. I sure beat the bus.

• 1:34:00Patrick Bet-David?

  So they put this saying, if you get 7 million points, you're gonna get a fighter jet. And this one kid gets it done. That's so freaking funny. And they're like, they never thought it was gonna happen, so they never gave him the jet. What are you gonna do, deliver the jet to the guy's house? Can you imagine how crazy this campaign was? What if he was a Middle Eastern guy? Pepsi's like, holy shit. Three decades later, suing Pepsi for refusing to give him a fighter jet, John Leonard, pull up his picture, I actually wanna see what this man looks like, before and after, what he looked like as a kid, finally got a reward that may be even better, according to a post that's super blondie, uh, super car blondie. Leonard became the center of all advertising, most famous legal battles after taking a 1996 Pepsi commercial at face value. The ad promoting the company's Pepsi Points loyalty program jokingly claimed

• 1:34:45Patrick Bet-David?

  customers could redeem 7 million points for a military Harrier jet. Rather than laughing it off, the Seattle college student raised enough money to buy the required points and submitted a claim for the aircraft. Pepsi rejected it, insisting the jet was never a real prize. The article says that the case went to court where a judge ruled that no reasonable person would believe Pepsi was seriously offering a fighter jet. And a soft drink promotion, although Leonard lost the lawsuit, the bizarre dispute became legendary and was later chronicled. Uh, uh, what do you, how do you pronounce this word? Chronicled, sir? Chronicled in the network documentary Pepsi. Don't worry about it, I got you, every time, all the time, every time. Now, nearly 30 years later, Frontier Airlines gave this story a happy ending as part of a Super Bowl campaign called

• 1:35:31Patrick Bet-David?

  The Big Redemption. The airline converted Leonard's original 7 million Pepsi points into 7 million Frontier miles, effectively giving him free flights for life. The airline even featured Leonard in a tongue-in-cheek commercial, handing him the keys to an Airbus A320neo as a nod to the decades-old saga. Now in his 50s, with a wife and children, Leonard joked that unlimited airline miles are far more practical than owning a Yeah, you think? Military jet. After waiting three decades, he never got the Harrier, but he may have received an even better prize. Tom?

• 1:36:06Tom Ellsworth?

  So, marketing has consequences. And I think if you're gonna do this, you know-

• 1:36:12Patrick Bet-David?

  This is him? This is him as a kid. A college student. Isn't that great? And by the way, can we see him today? Can we see him today? What did he do? What business did he get into?

• 1:36:22Tom Ellsworth?

  It's crazy.

• 1:36:22Patrick Bet-David?

  For a guy to be this resourceful, I hope this guy became like, super successful. If he used his ability to get those 7 million points-

• 1:36:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh man.

• 1:36:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Your, your ability to be resourceful is off the charts. This is him now.

• 1:36:34Tom Ellsworth?

  That's so funny.

• 1:36:34Adam Sosnick?

  Look, it's good, buddy.

• 1:36:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Is there a video? Can we hear how he speaks? I actually wanted to hear how he speaks.

• 1:36:38Tom Ellsworth?

  I'd laugh if he became like, a consumer protection attorney.

• 1:36:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I actually wanted- So this is the commercial. They're not showing Pepsi. This is Frontier Airlines.

• 1:36:48Speaker 07

  Collect enough points and you could trade them for a jet. One man tried to claim it. But the courts ruled it was a joke. And the plane never came.

• 1:37:12Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, Frontier's marketing team should get a frickin' raise.

• 1:37:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh yeah.

• 1:37:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Didn't get a jet.

• 1:37:20Adam Sosnick?

  7 million.

• 1:37:22Adam Sosnick?

  It's a deal.

• 1:37:23Speaker 07

  Frontier redeemed John's 7 million old soda points for 7 million miles. Enough to fly free for life.

• 1:37:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at this guy. So you finally got a jet.

• 1:37:36Patrick Bet-David?

  What?

• 1:37:37Tom Ellsworth?

  They're making a marketing deal.

• 1:37:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my god, I love this.

• 1:37:43Speaker 07

  Redeem your points at frontiermiles.com.

• 1:37:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Respect to Frontier Miles. Don't you love the story, Tom?

• 1:37:50Tom Ellsworth?

  I love this story. You know, there's, the, the business side of me says, "Listen, you gotta be careful about doing, you know, sweepstakes or comedy." Because somebody, even if they're gonna do it, is gonna, is gonna blow the thing up.

• 1:38:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you remember when, I think it was American Airlines, once upon a time, had the $300,000, "Pay once and you're first class for life"? And I think there were, you know who the, there were three remaining members of it, because they kept trying to buy them out? And you know who one of those last remaining members was? Mark Cuban. Because it was $300,000 about the American. And so, and by the way, American never thought people, the number of people would do it. And they nearly went broke, not broke, but they were losing money on like three of them. There was a guy that decided that every other week he was going to the UK. And apparently you had the right to take a American Fly for Life or whatever it was, you could take it. You just, I love it when, when it snaps back.

• 1:38:48Tom Ellsworth?

  And so that's what I think. I love it when it snaps back. But you know what I love even more is when companies do something for good, even if they're doing it for funny. What, what is Frontier really saying here? We'll go the extra mile for you when somebody else wouldn't.

• 1:39:03Adam Sosnick?

  That might be a slogan right there. They should pay you for that, Tom.

• 1:39:08Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what I think.

• 1:39:09Patrick Bet-David?

  So how do you feel about this, Adam?

• 1:39:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Great marketing by Frontier. Way to deliver on this. I mean, look, at the end of the day, if I order a Coke at a restaurant and they go, sorry, sir, we only have Pepsi. I'm disappointed. I went a totally different way on that.

• 1:39:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you run a poll Pepsi or Coke?

• 1:39:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Diet Coke.

• 1:39:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Run a poll Pepsi or Coke. I want to know which one our audience is.

• 1:39:31Tom Ellsworth?

  There's nothing better than having a meal and then just say, hey, can I get a Diet Coke? And it feels good. I know you don't drink soda.

• 1:39:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Haven't had it since July of 19 and I miss it. I'm not going to lie to you. Not having a Coke Zero. No, no, I'm not going to drink it.

• 1:39:46Speaker 03

  You know what I do, Pat?

• 1:39:47Tom Ellsworth?

  What was the Coke ad you talked about? Remember the Coke ad?

• 1:39:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Five million dollars, I would do a Coca-Cola commercial to come back.

• 1:39:53Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't always drink soda, but when I do, I'll do it for $5 million.

• 1:39:57Speaker 03

  I go to Whole Foods and stuff and I get just, you know, like the black cherry flavor.

• 1:40:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:01Speaker 03

  And then you put Stavio drops. I know it's not the same, but if you want to get the soda carbonation.

• 1:40:05Tom Ellsworth?

  What's going on with your voice?

• 1:40:06Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, do you remember RC Cola? Remember RC Cola?

• 1:40:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Royal Crown.

• 1:40:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you ever drink it or not?

• 1:40:12Tom Ellsworth?

  I would have called it Royal Crown.

• 1:40:14Patrick Bet-David?

  RC was better than Coke if you ask me 30 years ago. The blue bottle, the blue can. I agree. I don't know, the OG RC Cola, yeah, right there.

• 1:40:22Tom Ellsworth?

  If they had a great product, they must have horrible marketing because it doesn't exist.

• 1:40:25Patrick Bet-David?

  First of all, if you drank RC, you were poor, but you got, you know, you.

• 1:40:30Tom Ellsworth?

  But rich in substance and in health and life.

• 1:40:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Drink was, drink was good.

• 1:40:34Tom Ellsworth?

  And then when's the next time you think you'll have a soda, Pat?

• 1:40:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know about that. Right now at this point with what I'm going through.

• 1:40:38Tom Ellsworth?

  But hey, an Arnold Palmer, that'll serve you well.

• 1:40:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:42Speaker 03

  And then we're we're getting on it.

• 1:40:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me get to the next one. Let me get to the next one. This was a good story. Next one. So the Lakers get rid of this uh uh black man LeBron James.

• 1:40:50Speaker 03

  Oh man.

• 1:40:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Or LeBron left. And Stephen A. Smith's like, what team's gonna win with all white? I mean, who? And he he reacts to this. I don't know if you guys have seen this or not. And so some audience like, wait a minute. What are you talking about? Who cares about whether they're white or not? Come on, Stephen A. Right? Even Vinny's sitting here like upset about this whole thing, but there's somebody that, you know, you said, what team has won being white? This is it. Let's play this clip and we'll all react to it. Go for it.

• 1:41:21Adam Sosnick?

  Where the hell the Los Angeles Lakers think they going with a bunch of white dudes? Your three top players are white dudes?

• 1:41:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Come on, Stephen A.

• 1:41:28Adam Sosnick?

  This ain't golf. This ain't baseball. Hell, it ain't even soccer. What y'all think this is? Basketball. In NBA history, when have you seen your three most prominent players on a basketball team all be white? And that takes you to the promised land. Somebody gotta say it, so I'm saying it. This is basketball. I'm not complaining. I'm simply making the point. The Los Angeles Lakers, you ain't going anywhere being led by three white dudes in today's generation of basketball. I'm letting you know right now, they happening. And Luca's a bad brother. And Austin Reeves is no scrub. And they both have earned what they have earned. And then with LeBron James or some other brothers I get, but don't.

• 1:42:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it right there. So why do you have a problem with Stephen A. on that?

• 1:42:15Speaker 03

  I don't have a problem with it. I I just, because I I love Stephen A. He knows I love him to death. But can you imagine if a white guy on ESPN said, what the hell they think that they're doing with a bunch of black guys? X, Y, Z. Or like a a white doctor walking into an operating room going, I'm not. Black, three black surgeons? I'm not gonna have surgery. They would lose their.

• 1:42:36Patrick Bet-David?

  A black sheriff?

• 1:42:37Speaker 03

  A black.

• 1:42:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember that from?

• 1:42:39Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, I'm just saying, if it was the other way around, it would be horrible. But at the end of the day, Pat, is he wrong? Do you really think the Lakers have a chance?

• 1:42:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you who.

• 1:42:50Speaker 03

  Any other team?

• 1:42:51Patrick Bet-David?

  banked on this, a guy named Mark Cuban.

• 1:42:54Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:42:54Patrick Bet-David?

  If you want to pull up the story from the Guardian, pull up that story.

• 1:42:57Adam Sosnick?

  Nowitzki.

• 1:42:58Patrick Bet-David?

  From the Guardian. So this is the story of Guardian that said the Dallas Mavericks are consistently white in a black league. And this is when Mark Cuban owned them. Okay, so the article highlights that it cited NBA was about 74.2% black and 16.9% white. But it observed that 15 out of 21 seasons, the Mavericks had at least three white players on their active roster and are in more than half of those seasons, they had four or more. It did not say the roster was 70%. So you look at this number and saying, hey, this is the whitest team in the NBA. And Mark Cuban won. Mark Cuban won with Nowitzki. And you know who they beat? Do you know who they beat? The guy that's leaving the Lakers, LeBron James. Remember when LeBron James

• 1:43:42Patrick Bet-David?

  and they, uh, uh, what's his name? Uh,

• 1:43:44Adam Sosnick?

  Miami.

• 1:43:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Chris Bosh. No, no, Dwyane Wade. They were making fun of Nowitzki.

• 1:43:51Patrick Bet-David?

  He's, he's coughing because he's sick. And then Nowitzki came back and was 24 for 24 on free throw shots, 48 points, destroyed the Mavs. And who's the guy Finley who already had the championship?

• 1:44:03Adam Sosnick?

  Finley?

• 1:44:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Tattooed on his arm, pre-winning it. Do you know he did that? I don't know if you know the story or not. I know you don't follow NBA too closely. So he had, he had a tattoo. Can you get Michael Finley's tattoo? Pre-winning the champ- Vinny, do you know what this guy did? Genuinely, do you know what he did? Michael Finley got an NBA championship tattoo before winning it. He said, we're winning it.

• 1:44:24Adam Sosnick?

  Wow.

• 1:44:25Patrick Bet-David?

  No one in the history of the NBA had ever done this and they beat LeBron James. No, it wasn't Michael Finley. What was the guy's name? It's not Finley.

• 1:44:33Adam Sosnick?

  Jason Terry?

• 1:44:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Jason Terry, I'm sorry.

• 1:44:34Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so people, let me help you out here, sir.

• 1:44:36Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, hang on.

• 1:44:38Adam Sosnick?

  The jet.

• 1:44:38Patrick Bet-David?

  There it is. That's a tattoo. Can you show it?

• 1:44:40Adam Sosnick?

  He coming out with a new book.

• 1:44:41Patrick Bet-David?

  He gets a tattoo about winning a championship before they won the championship.

• 1:44:45Adam Sosnick?

  Then he got dunked on by LeBron the next.

• 1:44:46Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it doesn't matter, man. You got that championship. You got that cha- LeBron once highlights, the Mavs wanted a championship. That's the difference. So, I don't know. Uh, look, do I think the Lakers squad, because the challenge with, uh, Luca is the following. Here's a challenge with Luca. Luka can do 35 10 10, but he won't come back to play defense. He's not a two-way player. So the two-way players, you know, the great ones were who? Kawhi Leonard, he'll come back. Jalen Brown just went to Philadelphia 76ers. I don't know if you guys saw that or not, for a trade for Paul George. Some call this the worst trade.

• 1:45:19Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:45:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Because, you know, they said, you know, and they said, well, you know, Jalen Brown said, I'm probably the smartest guy in the room because it's not too hard in the NBA to be the smartest guy in the room. I think a part of Jalen Brown is also, you know, why would the, why would Brad Stevens get rid of Jalen Brown? Maybe you're not a good locker room guy. I don't know. Who the hell would get rid of a guy that did 28 6 5 last year? I think that's what you average. Anywhere in your finals MVP. Maybe you think too highly of yourself. Maybe you're not a guy that brings a team together. Maybe you're not a team guy. Maybe you're a selfish guy. Maybe you think so highly of yourself that people don't want to play with you. I don't know. Why do you get rid of a Jalen Brown at his peak for Paul George at the end of his career? And I love Paul George. Why do you do that? But you're seeing a lot of stuff that's going on over there. I don't want to go into my sports analyst side.

• 1:46:03Adam Sosnick?

  Go ahead, go ahead.

• 1:46:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't want to embarrass Stephen A. Smith. I don't want to do that.

• 1:46:06Adam Sosnick?

  Stephen A. Bet David.

• 1:46:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm a fan of Stephen A. Smith. First take, Stephen A.'s the first take, we're the last take. So we're going to give the last take on this.

• 1:46:13Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:13Patrick Bet-David?

  But Adam, with your amateur ability on the NBA, what do you want to add to this? Go ahead.

• 1:46:17Adam Sosnick?

  WNBA?

• 1:46:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Representing the white Jewish community. Go ahead.

• 1:46:21Adam Sosnick?

  Let me defend my white people right now.

• 1:46:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's, by the way, the greatest Jewish NBA player of all time?

• 1:46:26Adam Sosnick?

  Well, right now, he's playing right now.

• 1:46:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, he's the guy that's playing right now. He's pretty good. Yeah, he's pretty good.

• 1:46:31Adam Sosnick?

  He's incredible.

• 1:46:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he's pretty good.

• 1:46:32Speaker 03

  You rarely hear, Merkowitz with the dunk. You never, you don't.

• 1:46:35Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, you're talking to the Jewish Jordan right now, buddy. Have a little respect.

• 1:46:38Speaker 03

  Sorry.

• 1:46:38Adam Sosnick?

  So Stephen A., I would typically agree with you, homeboy, but times have changed.

• 1:46:43Speaker 03

  I don't know about that.

• 1:46:44Adam Sosnick?

  White people are back in the NBA. If you look at the top five players in the NBA right now.

• 1:46:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Boys are back in town.

• 1:46:49Adam Sosnick?

  Luka Jokic, Jokic, White, Chukokoch.

• 1:46:55Adam Sosnick?

  Jokic?

• 1:46:55Speaker 03

  Go ahead.

• 1:46:56Adam Sosnick?

  Luka Doncic? White, white. You have Giannis? You have Wemby? Black, black. And you got Steph Curry, he's kind of on... Which side is he on? I don't know. The point is this. White people are making a comeback. I'm not just talking about Steve Nash. I'm talking about Dirk Nowitzki. I'm not even talking about Mark Price. I'm not even talking about Craig Elo. The days of the blacks owning the NBA are over. But by the way, they've had it for a long time. Ever since Larry Bird had this thing. But you know what we have to be the most concerned about? This is what I'm actually most concerned about. Because I'm actually not into the black and white thing. I'm more into the USA thing. You know what I'm more concerned about? That the top 10 players in the NBA? The vast majority of them are no longer American.

• 1:47:39Speaker 03

  Greece.

• 1:47:39Adam Sosnick?

  They're international. Think about this. Giannis, Greece. Luka, Slovenia. The Joker, Slovakia, Serbia, wherever he's from. SGA, Canada. Wemby.

• 1:47:50Speaker 03

  Borat.

• 1:47:51Adam Sosnick?

  Outer space. I don't know wherever this guy is.

• 1:47:52Speaker 03

  Wasn't that where...

• 1:47:53Adam Sosnick?

  So what's going on is NBA, American NBA players? Forget about the black and white thing. Just put the ball in the hole and start beating these international things. Globalism's taking over. Next thing you know Yao Ming's gonna start dunking.

• 1:48:04Speaker 03

  But Pat, you ready for this?

• 1:48:05Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam. Wasn't that where Mark Cuban drafted his guys? All the Europeans?

• 1:48:12Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, when I did a shootout in the gym here with the great Stephen A. Smith? We tied.

• 1:48:17Speaker 03

  He had a good shot and he wasn't even dressed for it. But here's my thing.

• 1:48:22Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, you're making excuses for the black man now, Vinnie?

• 1:48:24Speaker 03

  All the stuff that we...

• 1:48:24Adam Sosnick?

  This is what you're doing?

• 1:48:25Speaker 03

  All the stuff that we...

• 1:48:26Adam Sosnick?

  Cultural appropriation from an Asian...

• 1:48:27Speaker 03

  All the stuff that you talked about, about elections and stuff. What does Vegas say? Los Angeles Lakers to win? Plus 4,500.

• 1:48:35Adam Sosnick?

  You would have to... Oh, no.

• 1:48:36Speaker 03

  No, no, they have...

• 1:48:37Adam Sosnick?

  They're not doing good.

• 1:48:37Speaker 03

  There's no chance.

• 1:48:38Adam Sosnick?

  The Lakers are not doing good.

• 1:48:39Speaker 03

  Like, Jesus Cristo would have to come and be on the starting five.

• 1:48:42Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, I just want to make a public announcement here, PBD, if I may. LeBron? I want you to make this decision. Come to Miami.

• 1:48:49Speaker 03

  Oh, don't, don't even.

• 1:48:50Adam Sosnick?

  Come to Florida.

• 1:48:51Speaker 03

  Don't say you want.

• 1:48:51Adam Sosnick?

  Forget about the high taxes in California.

• 1:48:54Patrick Bet-David?

  All right.

• 1:48:54Adam Sosnick?

  Forget about all the nonsense. Come back and run back to Edo's.

• 1:48:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me go.

• 1:48:58Adam Sosnick?

  With Yanis and Bam, 305 till we die.

• 1:49:00Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so let me, let me, let me go to this next one, which is kind of a, I don't know if we have this clip or not, this, this, uh, this brother says what he says about Katelyn Clark, saying the WNBA has just got to get rid of Katelyn Clark. Have you guys seen this clip?

• 1:49:12Speaker 03

  It's so, that's so.

• 1:49:13Patrick Bet-David?

  This clip about Katelyn Clark, Tom, I think you commented on this. I don't know where it's sad when you commented on it or not. If you can send it to the crew in the back. So he says, look, it's time. It's time for the WNBA, this is it, right there, yeah. The WNBA would be better without Katelyn Clark. Just listen to him. This is an NFL player, okay? Go, go.

• 1:49:33Speaker 07

  The W at this juncture in time would be better without Katelyn Clark because she is a bigger distraction than she is an additive.

• 1:49:40Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, God.

• 1:49:41Speaker 07

  Katelyn Clark has gotten the WNBA over the necessary threshold they needed. Now people are watching.

• 1:49:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, thank you for coming.

• 1:49:47Speaker 07

  Now we realize, oh, there's talent in the W, talent that's actually even greater than Katelyn Clark. And I'm not just talking about bigs like Asia. I'm talking about the Olivia Miles. I'm talking about the Paige Beckers. Hell, I'm talking about the Kelsey Mitchells.

• 1:49:57Adam Sosnick?

  Nobody's ever heard of these, these people.

• 1:49:59Speaker 07

  The necessary eyes there. But now that the eyes are there, we don't necessarily need her anymore. Katelyn did what only Katelyn could do.

• 1:50:07Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you for all your contributions. Kick rocks.

• 1:50:10Speaker 07

  Anymore. Thank you, Katelyn. We can take it from here.

• 1:50:13Adam Sosnick?

  He's saying it again?

• 1:50:14Speaker 07

  Now you're saying that the WNBA needs to be cognizant of where they put Katelyn Clark on posters. The WNBA and the officials need to alter the rules for Katelyn Clark. The WNBA and opposing players need to treat Katelyn Clark more gently. Katelyn Clark's coach needs to be cognizant of how she talks to her in public.

• 1:50:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, watch this. Do you see the foul that this other girl did on Katelyn Clark and is pushing the head down?

• 1:50:37Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, kneed her in the crotch, too.

• 1:50:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and, and you're watching this, the Katelyn Clark foul. Uh, uh, take the T out, yeah, foul. And you look at this, you're like, wait a minute. What the hell is this? And she's smiling at her while she's doing this. You know, with the, with the, what do you call it? With the hand on the face. Tom, first of all, before we find that clip, what do you think about what she's saying right here, what he's saying here about Katelyn Clark that, right there, watch this. This is it. Look at that. And there's even another clip of her looking at her and smiling. And smiling. So you do you do you agree with what he's saying? And if not, is this it? Yeah, watch that. Watch that. What are you doing? What's the purpose of that? Tom, go ahead.

• 1:51:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, I don't need to go down the path of just how much envy and jealousy there is in the in the W toward Katelyn Clark. Number one. Number two, what this guy was talking about was so selfish and wrong headed.

• 1:51:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Who was he, by the way? He was an NFL player.

• 1:51:32Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no. No, no, no. This is Emmanuel Ancho. He was drafted in a Acho. He was drafted in the sixth round by Cleveland. He barely played. He was hurt and he never.

• 1:51:45Patrick Bet-David?

  He wasn't an NFL player.

• 1:51:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Barely. He didn't play a full season. He got traded three times. So he tried to make it in the NFL. No, he tried to make it in the NFL and either his body or his talent didn't get him there, one or the other. But he never had an enduring position on one team for like a full season without getting hurt and anything. And he ultimately was out. He was one of many rookies that get to the NFL and don't quite are able to stay. Happens in basketball, too. You could give me examples, Adam. And this guy is now a podcast and on media as a pundit. And what he was saying was that they don't need her anymore. Why? Because Katelyn Clark helped the WNBA get a huge new digital rights and

• 1:52:32Tom Ellsworth?

  TV deal. And that's got the and she helped the salaries go up. And people hate the fact that she did it. And there's huge jealousy. Why weren't we paid? Why weren't we paid? You heard all kinds of them. And so what he's saying, Pat, he's saying, oh, we don't need her anymore. We got our TV deal. We got the salaries up. Now you can go away because they're jealous of her. She didn't come from the zone and area. She came from the American Midwest. The WNBA's culture and everything about its overall, you know, positioning is not Midwest.

• 1:53:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me give some numbers here. I want to give some numbers. Pre Katelyn Clark going into the WNBA to post. Ready? Pre 2023. She went in 2023. Average viewership, Vinnie, national TV audience per game, 462,000.

• 1:53:22Patrick Bet-David?

  After Clark, one year later, 2024, not today, today's even higher. One year later, 1.32 million, up 186%.

• 1:53:30Adam Sosnick?

  Come on.

• 1:53:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Regular season attendance average per game, 66, 15 fans. One year later, the entire WNBA goes up 48% to 98.07. Total attendance, 1.59, total attendance, 2.35, 48% up. Sellouts went from 45 to 154, 242% growth. ESPN viewership, 440 to 1.2 million, 170 up. Merchandise sales, 600% up league-wide in one year. Katelyn Clark increased merch sales for everybody. League pass subscription up 366%. Who did that? Katelyn Clark. And by the way, you know, that girl you just showed, what's her name? Sophie Cunningham?

• 1:54:10Speaker 03

  I love her.

• 1:54:11Patrick Bet-David?

  She's a gangster, you know what? You, you.

• 1:54:13Adam Sosnick?

  The biggest highlight of the NBA this year is a woman pointing at another woman. That's the best player of the year.

• 1:54:18Patrick Bet-David?

  She's tough. She's like the Bill Lamber defending her teammates.

• 1:54:22Adam Sosnick?

  Find the other one which is doing like this.

• 1:54:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Sophie, if you're watching this, keep doing your thing. You've got a big fan base.

• 1:54:27Adam Sosnick?

  Three pointer.

• 1:54:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I love what she does. So anyways, we'll see what happened here. Do you have any thoughts on this?

• 1:54:31Adam Sosnick?

  You think it's just disrespectful, like, at the end of the day, let's be real here. If Katelyn Clark was not in the NBA, we would not be talking about the NBA. It wouldn't be in our top 10 topics.

• 1:54:40Speaker 03

  It's still losing money, Adam, every year.

• 1:54:42Adam Sosnick?

  It's always gonna lose money. It's never gonna make money. It's a zombie company, we're not even talking about that. We're gonna talk about the fact that Katelyn Clark, at the very least, is the reason that we're actually even getting any shine to any of these players. I've never heard of Asia Wilson. I guess she's the best player in the NBA. We wouldn't be talking about her. By the way, if you just look at the stats, Katelyn Clark is a top three player in the NBA. She's top three in the league in points, assists, three points. She's gonna be one of the top three MVP candidates. Listen, I'm no fan of the NBA. I will crap on the WNBA all day, every day I can. At the same time, I can acknowledge that Katelyn Clark is the reason that we're even talking about this disgusting, horrible, useless league. So two things can be true at once. The league is useless, but she's a great player.

• 1:55:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Check this out. This is the WNBA 30-year poster that they did to recognize WNBA's history. And you know who's missing on that poster?

• 1:55:34Adam Sosnick?

  A white straight woman? Oh, sorry.

• 1:55:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Katelyn Clark is missing from that poster. They decided she wasn't big enough to put her in there. By the way, I love that WNBA is doing this. Cause it's showing what you guys are really all about. The entire league is being exposed and FYI with Katelyn Clark. She's gonna keep doing her thing and the more they do this, eventually, everybody goes through three phases. First, you are ridiculed, then you're violently opposed, then it becomes self-evident. She has not yet made it self-evident. She's going through that phase that Michael went through, that all major athletes had to go through, and she's gonna get through it and her supporters are gonna be behind her. I hope she continues. Let me get to the next story.

• 1:56:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Next story I want to get to is a story about The Rock, which is like, hey, Rock, we want you to talk politics. You're famous. You got 500 million followers on social media. Why are you not bashing Trump? And The Rock's like, dude, let me just do my thing. Leave me alone, man. Let me just go out there and do my, what is the show and the cartoon and all this stuff that I'm doing? Why are you bothering me? Let me live my life. Nope. We need you to criticize. So let me read this to you. Hollywood stars began lashing out at Dwayne Johnson on Monday after he reiterated his stance to keep his personal politics out of public eye after telling Esquire earlier this month that he hates the slinging of modern politics.

• 1:56:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Star Trek alum George Takei and Stand By Me actor Will Wheaton took to social media to slam Johnson with Takei arguing that his stance, his silence makes him complicit. The Rock's recent comments to Esquire about wanting to keep my politics to myself has divided fans with some calling his silence, Takei wrote on threads. He then replied to his post on Monday writing, silence is complicity. Wheaton also called out Johnson in a thread post, later deleted, that was reported by Entertainment Weekly writing, so disappointing to find that he is such a coward. However, some came to Johnson's defense online, including comedian Matt Rife, who took on X to mock Wheaton's coward comments.

• 1:57:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I love how he's a coward, but could quite literally tear Will's throat out of, out through his asshole, Rife wrote on a Wednesday, adding, this internet comment world is so bold. The controversy stems from Johnson's Esquire interview.

• 1:57:59Patrick Bet-David?

  For the magazine summer 2026 cover story, the actor known for starring in the Fast and Furious franchise, as well as Jumanji films, explained why he'll be keeping his political views private from now on. What I learned through experiences that I need to keep, need, not want, the main thing, the main thing, I said. And the main thing for me is the thing that in the morning, I swing my legs out of bed and I run towards is creating, it's art, it's storytelling. I've learned I'm going to keep my politics to myself. Good for him. What do you think about what he said here?

• 1:58:26Speaker 03

  Listen, Pat, for someone that was in Hollywood and learned really, really quick, you open your mouth or you say something funny. I said something about, because this was, I was in during 2016, 15, I was going on stage, I was making funny jokes, I was seeing Trump. I never cared about Trump. When I saw Trump at the Apprentice, I was just like, yeah, whatever, whatever. So I went on stage and I would be making jokes. I got off stage and the owner of the comedy club, and I'm not going to say who it was, was like this, hey, you can't, you can't be going up there and talking positive about this. And I'm like, wait, what? I go, I thought this was a comedy club. So I wasn't getting stage time because I was talking positive about Trump. So that being said, it could ruin your entire career

• 1:59:11Speaker 03

  because this game, and we all know this, Pat. Oh, also this, I went to get a comedy booker, a person to book me for comedy, and they were like, it came to see me, headline, crushed it, standing ovation. I went for the gusto, you know what he said? Yeah, I can't, I can't sell you. You're not, you're not mainstream. I'm like, what are you talking about? I go, I'm Middle Eastern, I could, I think the ambiguous, I could play whatever. They're like, yeah, you're, you're a Republican. Literally said that. And this is a big comedy booker, manager, agent, whatever that you want to call him. And I realized it. Either you go, listen, either you're political or you're not. This is a business decision and good for him. Because once you go full, you know what I mean? There's no coming back. Once they labor you, Pat, especially Hollywood, it's over for you.

• 1:59:53Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what, what do you think? What do you think?

• 1:59:55Speaker 03

  Because I think he's one of us, Pat.

• 1:59:56Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think Rock is deep down inside?

• 1:59:58Speaker 03

  If I had to bet all my money, he's one of us.

• 2:00:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I think he's a center right guy.

• 2:00:03Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 2:00:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Who socially, maybe liberal or whatever, but I think that the guy's a- The guy's a capitalist, he lives like a capitalist, he lives like a conservative, now leave him alone. And by the way, I respect the hell out of him for doing this, good for him, let him go create his art, and I hope eventually, he chooses to run. I hope eventually he chooses to run, uh, but I don't think he's done creating, I don't think he's done creating. I think, wha- what is Rock's age by the way? How old is Rock? Is he, uh, is he in his 40s, is he in his 50s?

• 2:00:31Adam Sosnick?

  No, he's gotta be in his 50s something, yeah.

• 2:00:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, good for him, and he looks great. So he's in his 50s, 54 years old. Look, when that age hits 6, and you, you wanna kinda go and, you know, be a trifecta, cuz he's gonna be a billionaire. He's the biggest superstar, bigger than Arnold ever was, okay, so if he's a billionaire, Arnold never became a billionaire, if he's a superstar, and he becomes a president, then he officially becomes one of two. You know why he becomes one of two? Cuz it's him and Trump.

• 2:00:56Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 2:00:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump was a billionaire, superstar on TV, and he goes and becomes a president, he could, it could only be two of Rocks. And he's in the camp with Trump, he could pull it off. But take your time, pick your time. Adam?

• 2:01:10Adam Sosnick?

  I think, uh, Rock, at the end of the day, he's just a talented dude. I don't think he wants to be in politics. You interviewed him, you had a great interview with him. His story's amazing, his, his relationship with his father, his ex-wife, everything that he's doing, is doing. I think Rock, at the end of the day, you know the one thing that he wants to be? I think he wants to be liked. I genuinely believe that. I think when he was younger and more of a football player and a wrestler, he was clearly more pro-America, conservative type values. Then he got into Hollywood, and I think at one point he had to literally put on a dress. He had to see that side of the things, right? Uh, twinkle, twinkle, that whole situation. I think Rock is someone who doesn't look in terms of, of politics and divisiveness.

• 2:01:53Adam Sosnick?

  I think he's generally a synergist. I think he's the type of person that any reasonable person on the left or on the right says, "I like The Rock." Now, if you're a hardcore person on the right, you're not gonna like The Rock. If you're a hardcore person on the left, if you're a weak coward like this guy, calling out The Rock, who would never say anything to his face, calls him a coward, you're probably not gonna like him. But at the end of the day, Rock is a likable guy, and he will be a billionaire, and he loves America. That's what it comes down to.

• 2:02:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, to say he's likable would be an understatement. To say he's like, I learned so much about the guy when we had him at the vault two years ago. Based on his pad, whatever they're doing, let's you and I talk. And we would talk on Sunday, he's like, okay, are you good with this? Are you good? He said, Pat, I'm good with that. Okay, great, let's go. The interview. No, we need it to be cut down to 20 minutes. Rock's like, let's talk. We talked on the phone, he's like, no, I'm good. Let's release it. Boom. Great. I learned so much about how he deals behind closed doors. Like, you know this Republican gubernatorial debate that we did?

• 2:02:48Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I learned about every candidate, not on stage, behind closed doors, how they were. You'll learn about them behind closed doors. And then you give them props in front of everybody to showing up, which they did.

• 2:02:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So I learned a lot about The Rock doing, you know, dealing with them behind closed. I was very impressed with them.

• 2:03:03Adam Sosnick?

  What was the one thing that you remember about dealing with The Rock? What impressed you the most?

• 2:03:07Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a guy, he's a man's man, he's a frickin' dude you would like, he's like...

• 2:03:11Adam Sosnick?

  He's a G.

• 2:03:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's, and by the way, at the highest level, I mean, it would be an understatement. He's a capital G, is what he is.

• 2:03:18Adam Sosnick?

  But by the way, we gotta give a shout out to The Rock.

• 2:03:20Tom Ellsworth?

  And he's got very personal charisma when you meet him.

• 2:03:23Patrick Bet-David?

  He talks to Dylan, he talked to the kids, he talked to everybody. Nah, he's cool.

• 2:03:28Adam Sosnick?

  Can we give a shout out to The Rock's low cousin, Matt Sapolak? Can we do that?

• 2:03:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You are so funny.

• 2:03:34Adam Sosnick?

  But he's a great guy, I think he's very liked.

• 2:03:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to the last couple of stories I want to wrap up with. The last couple of stories I want to wrap up with is World Cup being one of them, okay? And I don't know if you guys saw this or not. Yesterday, Portugal's playing Croatia. The debates, in the middle of the debate, they're playing, and I'm checking the score. And so we're in the Boardroom Cigar Lounge. Shout out to the crew over there, Mikel, if you're not a member. By the way, if you were a member, you were invited to the debate last night. For some of you guys that are not a member of the Boardroom Cigar Lounge, there's so many deals that are getting done. You put the link below for people to go to at boardroomcigarlounge.com. Can you go to the website? Guys in the back, can you go to the website? Boardroomcigarlounge.com right there. And put the link below, if you want to be a member. Send your information, we do background checks, there's no phones in sight, and there's a lot of deals. Everybody was watching the game after the debate, it was phenomenal. If you were a member, you would have been at the debate.

• 2:04:22Patrick Bet-David?

  And so we're watching Croatia and Portugal. And a lot of people are like, oh, Croatia, you know, what's the big deal with Croatia? Croatia like knocked out Argentina a few years ago with Messi.

• 2:04:32Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 2:04:33Patrick Bet-David?

  And they knocked out Brazil. I mean, the player that they have, you know, you know their main player?

• 2:04:37Adam Sosnick?

  Luka Modric?

• 2:04:38Patrick Bet-David?

  He is ridiculous.

• 2:04:40Adam Sosnick?

  The guy with the rubber band?

• 2:04:40Patrick Bet-David?

  The guy is ridiculous. And yesterday's game came down to hair.

• 2:04:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Not his hair.

• 2:04:47Patrick Bet-David?

  The ball goes over and they call the offsides with VAR. And there's like 15 minutes stoppage time. We're like, oh, it's over.

• 2:04:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm like, no, they scored a goal. Croatia scored a goal. And in the goal, they, they, they found this thing. Let me, let me, let me send this to you. I saved the clip. I don't know if you guys have it or not, that right there. So, so when you see this, it's such an interesting, some are saying the whole thing came down.

• 2:05:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Right there.

• 2:05:12Patrick Bet-David?

  To the technology they use because they put sensors in the ball. And the sensor, the ball didn't feel that, that player's hair from Croatia. That's all apparently they needed. For that ball to hit the hair of the Croatian player. And they said the ball didn't feel the hair.

• 2:05:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Ball don't lie. So there are soccer experts today that are saying this was not offside.

• 2:05:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna send this to you. I want you to do this. Do me. Yeah, a lot of people are talking about this because this would have gone to 2-2. And remember, Ronaldo was out. So he wouldn't have been part of the penalty or in OT when they go and play the thing. Can you play this clip I just sent you guys?

• 2:05:49Tom Ellsworth?

  He'd been replaced by fresh legs and speed.

• 2:05:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, watch this. Go for it. Refresh if you could. Watch this. Watch this.

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  And the censor is the reason why that they have censors in the ball. And the censor is the reason why that goal was disallowed. That's the first time that we've seen that in a game. This literally comes down to if this comes off of enough of Renato Vega's hair to determine whether or not Croatia goes to or not. I mean, that is a level of detail that I don't think the founders of the game really had in mind. They have censors in the.

• 2:08:05Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what this means? You know what this means? Some people are saying you can't say this to Argentinians because they would lose their mind. They're saying if VAR was around back in the days, England wins. Maradona doesn't get it because it would have shown. The hand of God? The hand of God. Oh, my God. So I don't know. I don't know if some like it or some don't like it. And that means Portugal is not going to be playing who? Portugal's playing who? We just talked about it earlier today. Playing España. Yeah, and Spain won yesterday 3-0. And so Ronaldo did score a goal yesterday. The reality of it is everybody wants to see one matchup. Everybody wants to see Portugal against Argentina. Vinny, that game will be bonkers. And the US playing Belgium Monday. Okay, you got two big games on Monday. If you look at it right there, look at that. So if you look at the brackets now, how do they play Argentina? Go up a little bit.

• 2:08:50Patrick Bet-David?

  So you got US Belgium and you have Portugal, Spain. Whoever wins, they face against each other. So US could face Portugal, which would be epic, but that means they got to beat Belgium and Spain. And Spain's not, Tom said if Spain played lights out, if you go a little bit higher, today Paraguay plays France. Okay?

• 2:09:07Adam Sosnick?

  France is going to win that.

• 2:09:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Canada, Morocco. I gotta tell you, it's going to sound weird. I kind of like the way Morocco played. I like the way Morocco played. They're tough. I really like the way Morocco. plays.

• 2:09:17Speaker 03

  They beat the Netherlands.

• 2:09:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Who else do we have?

• 2:09:18Speaker 03

  I like the fact that their uniforms.

• 2:09:20Tom Ellsworth?

  We got Viva Mexico.

• 2:09:21Patrick Bet-David?

  And today.

• 2:09:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Mexico's playing England.

• 2:09:22Patrick Bet-David?

  You got Brazil Norway.

• 2:09:24Speaker 03

  Brazil Norway.

• 2:09:25Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, just so you know, people are not gonna, I don't even wanna see who I'm going for in that game. I just.

• 2:09:29Speaker 03

  I'm rooting for our friend from Norway.

• 2:09:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he's, he's playing good. Mexico, England should be good. And then go a little lower, Switzerland. Where's the Argentina one? Isn't Argentina?

• 2:09:37Tom Ellsworth?

  They're playing Capo Verde today.

• 2:09:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Argentina playing Capo Verde. And Australia, Egypt, Colombia, Ghana. Wow.

• 2:09:41Speaker 03

  And I'm rooting for my Colombian man, Ante.

• 2:09:43Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so we'll see, we'll see what happens.

• 2:09:45Speaker 03

  Who are you rooting for, Pat?

• 2:09:45Tom Ellsworth?

  How does, uh?

• 2:09:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I am, I am, I am wanting to see history. It's what I wanna see.

• 2:09:50Speaker 03

  What do you wanna see?

• 2:09:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I wanna, I wanna see the most watched game of all time because I want the argument. I want Portugal to play Argentina.

• 2:09:58Speaker 03

  What do you think the argument is? Hang on, the way the first.

• 2:10:00Patrick Bet-David?

  It's done if it happens.

• 2:10:02Speaker 03

  Well, what do you mean? What's the argument? You're thinking, you're thinking that Cristiano is.

• 2:10:05Patrick Bet-David?

  You know who else we're not even talking about? Can you go back to the brackets? Can you go back to the brackets on what you had? The other thing that no one is talking about is France because France is dominating.

• 2:10:14Speaker 03

  People are talking about France.

• 2:10:15Patrick Bet-David?

  They are dominating.

• 2:10:17Speaker 03

  Can I say someone's gonna pick people up, Pat? Cause I've, I've watched.

• 2:10:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You do it all the time, Benny. Why stop now?

• 2:10:21Speaker 03

  At this point. The, the passion. We saw it. I don't think Portugal has it this year. Okay, um, let me, let me, let me, let me finish. I see Cristiano, he's ridiculous, he's nasty. He's 41 years old. He's on the pitch with people that are 22 that are. By the way, I was watching the France game, Pat. Nobody's out of breath. Mbappe's running around playing defense like a freaking maniac. They are off the charts. Argentina is so methodical with their passing. And yeah, Messi's older, Tom, but he's freaking.

• 2:10:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Why was Ronaldo off, why was Ronaldo off the pitch at that moment of game?

• 2:10:53Speaker 03

  He was tired.

• 2:10:54Tom Ellsworth?

  And the answer was speed, legs and defense.

• 2:10:57Speaker 03

  Of course, he's tired.

• 2:10:58Tom Ellsworth?

  He's older.

• 2:10:58Speaker 03

  He's older.

• 2:10:59Tom Ellsworth?

  And it was the right coaching move.

• 2:11:01Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're watching this and you're offended by what Tom just said about Ronaldo, manect him and call him out.

• 2:11:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:11:06Patrick Bet-David?

  How dare he talks about Ronaldo like that?

• 2:11:08Speaker 03

  But are you ready for this, too, Pat?

• 2:11:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my God, what an insult.

• 2:11:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Listen, I'm not trying to insult the 11th greatest player in soccer history.

• 2:11:16Speaker 03

  And I'm gonna say this, we watched America play, listen, and America's not gonna have their, their, uh, Flor, uh, what's his name? Flo.

• 2:11:24Patrick Bet-David?

  The dude that scores the goals, that guy.

• 2:11:26Speaker 03

  Our nastiest players out because of a BS red card. I'm telling you right now, America has it, America could beat Belgium even without him. Then we get him back and we could be, we could win the winner out of Portugal and, and Zlatan Ibrahimovic. A reporter asked him, she goes, Zlatan, one word, can the United States win the whole thing?

• 2:11:47Patrick Bet-David?

  It's answered.

• 2:11:47Speaker 03

  He went, yes. Fun deal. If Zlatan says it, take it to the bank, you know?

• 2:11:52Patrick Bet-David?

  If the US win, I'm gonna show a video that no one's gonna believe. But if the US win, I'm not even gonna say it, but I mean, it's gonna be, if, if the US win, uh, it's gonna be a good conversation. Let me, let me, let me wrap it up with this here on this.

• 2:12:04Speaker 03

  What do you mean by if though?

• 2:12:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me, let me wrap it up with this, let me wrap it up with this. You know, you know who is my favorite personality in soccer period? It's not even close, it's Zlatan. It's not even close. If there was somebody I would wanna sit down and have a conversation with and just dinner with, it would be Zlatan. Out of all the soccer players, any one of them, pick any one of them, it's Zlatan. There's something very, very special about Zlatan. You know when Zlatan played for AC Milan? He goes to Italy, he's there for three years, and he goes to a bunch of different teams, then he comes back to AC Milan to retire.

• 2:12:44Patrick Bet-David?

  They create a tribute, they said it's the only time he cried. Two times he cried, the first time he cried is when the existing, uh, the first team he played for, he let the team in goals and there was an issue with the bank account and money and different things. And the second time he cried is the way AC Milan gave him love. There's this video I've played over and over and over again. I've watched this thing at least 50 times, the last 48 hours. It's the tribute video with this song that I can't play because we will get a copyright, but if you send me a message, I'll, I'll share this with you. It's the song with Arcade Duncan Lawrence featuring Fletcher is in the video, I can't play it. Can you show Zlatan's reaction when he's coming out?

• 2:13:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch the way the fans are crying and look how he starts shaking. It's the most beautiful cry a man has when this happens to you because the world appreciates how you played for them, how you showed up for them. Their fans were in love with them and this reminded me of a moment in my life, which I'll share here in a moment. Go for it, play this clip. Watch this.

• 2:13:47Patrick Bet-David?

  And they're playing the Gladiator theme song in the background. Look at this. Watch what happens in a minute. They played with him. They love him. Can't even hold himself. Look at this. This is one of the biggest alphas in the world. Do you see that? Such a beautiful frickin' thing. You know, we're taking family pictures with everybody wearing their own jerseys. You know, we're a proud family. The one jersey I will comfortably put on, you can pause it right there. Is Laton. You know what this reminded me of? Many, many years ago, I'm teaching PHB University at a hotel in Dallas.

• 2:14:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm wearing my Yankees jersey. I don't know if you remember that video where I'm coming, I'm going like this. There's a video of that one. You'll remember this when we're doing this thing. And we are leaving this meeting in Dallas. You're not gonna find it, so don't worry about it. It's fine, guys. You're not gonna find it. We are leaving this meeting, and while we're leaving this meeting, I am myself. I call my sister. My sister's with me as well. We go to our house in Plano. While we go to the house in Plano,

• 2:14:54Patrick Bet-David?

  we watched the last game of Kobe Bryant. And Shaq tells Kobe, "Go for 50. Go for 50." Shaq tells Kobe? Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah. "Go for 50." So he says, "Go for 50." And Kobe goes for 60 points that night, his last game. 60 points. It was against Utah. Utah. And the guy that was guarding him was a... Gordon, uh... Gordon Hayward? Brandon Hayward? No, no, Gordon Hayward. No, no, it's a different first name. Is it Gordon Hayward? It is Gordon. Brandon Hayward was a power forward then. And he scores 60. Yeah. And I just sat there and I'm watching this. His last game, he scored 60. Everybody in the audience is in tears.

• 2:15:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Emotional. Everybody in the audience is in tears. Emotional when this guy scored 60. And afterwards, he goes, kisses the floor, leaves. And you think about the 20 years this guy gave to the Lakers. And when he came on and we had him at the event and we're having a conversation together prior, you know, prior to the event and all that stuff. And then the day we get the news that he passed away, we were at seasons 52 and my phone, all the alerts, everybody, my phone is the first, all of a sudden I get 50 text messages within two minutes. And I said, there's no way this is true. And then CNN reports and then Fox reports and then ESPN reports it. And you realize Kobe Bryant was killed in a helicopter accident.

• 2:16:21Patrick Bet-David?

  This could have been prevented. There's something very emotional about sports. And I think what the World Cup is doing, I posted this on Twitter yesterday on my account saying, there's something very emotional about soccer because when, when they lost, one of the teams lost Bosnia lost. And the coach went around to their side to thank the audience on their side. You could tell how emotional the audience was because you're fighting for your country. There's something very, very emotional about the game of soccer. It's very weird. I rooted for Morocco. I've been critical of Islamists and you know, when we talk about politics, I can't believe you're this. I'm rooting for Morocco.

• 2:17:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's like, I want to see these guys win. Everything leaves, religion leaves, all of it leaves. You see stories of these kids who have gone out there and done what they've done. It's such an amazing sport of bringing the world together. And so I'm excited. I'm excited to see what's going on. I hope to see everybody, you know, these couple of games that all the countries rooting for their own thing. It's going to be an amazing next few couple of weeks. This thing's going to be done like this. You know that, right? In a couple of weeks, we're, July 19th is the last game. Today's what? July 1st? July 3rd?

• 2:17:30Speaker 03

  Wait, 3rd?

• 2:17:31Patrick Bet-David?

  The 2nd or 3rd? In 16 days is the championship, man.

• 2:17:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:17:35Patrick Bet-David?

  In 16 days. It's not like baseball or football. In 16 days. So anyways, gang, um, for those guys that tuned in, the true believers on, they were debating, should we do, should we, we're going to be doing this. Effective next week, remember, it's only two times we're doing podcasts a week for the next three weeks. Mondays and Thursdays. Put it in your calendar, Mondays and Thursdays. And for some of you guys, we may not be giving away a private jet, but we are giving the ability for you to come and join us on the podcast if you play. Place your order over 2,000 and I know a bunch of people are doing that. Thousand dollar orders on V teamers.com. We will FaceTime you the first 50. The first 200 orders will get the golden bottle. And then we have buy one, get one free. We have a but even if you're watching this saying I'm not going to spend that kind of money.

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• 2:18:54Adam Sosnick?

  Fourth, everybody.

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