Midterm Exit Polls, JD Vance on Why Voters Flipped & DeSantis’ Warning to the GOP | PBD #885

Patrick Bet-David and the panel unpack JD Vance and Ron DeSantis’s reactions to the GOP’s midterm losses. They also examine Trump’s Election Day announcement that he plans to end nearly $4 billion in annual U. S. military aid to Israel, which would still be able to buy weapons from the United States. Patrick Bet-David and the PBD Podcast crew break down the Haley Stevens controversy, a deadly Learjet crash in Florida that killed nine people, and the final countdown to the 2026 midterm elections. With Trump, Republicans, and Democrats battling for control of Congress, election integrity concerns and massive campaign spending take center stage. ——— . 👞 Get the NEW Billionaire Suede Loafer: https://bit.ly/4ym5oRA . 🇰 GET STARTED ON KALSHI WITH $10 ON US! SIGN UP HERE: http://kalshi.com/pbd . 👕 SHOP THE ICON COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3TuUU3x . 👞 GET THE FLB1's: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6 . Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVkso . Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP . 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 . 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj . SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT @BetDavidConsulting @vtgenz @ValuetainmentComedy . ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:13Patrick Bet-David?

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right here. You are a one of one?

• 0:18Speaker 01

  My son's right. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So I think it's, I want to share this with you. It's a little bit vulnerable, but Tom this morning's doing something to us we don't like, and it was very uncomfortable. This entire time he's trying to say, do you guys want to play Ouija board tonight? Who the hell wants to play the Ouija board? Look, leave this alone. You know, everybody has a bad story with Ouija board. I don't know, we should play, we should gather tonight at the cigar lounge and play Ouija board. Who says something like that, Tom? So I'm just telling you right now, I'm not open to that idea. Okay? I know you like playing games like that. You gotta get serious, Tom. This is life.

• 0:51Tom Ellsworth?

  After the election, I have to try something.

• 0:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Nine on 10 by Tom. Some of the stories that was shared this morning was very weird, but that's how this works, you know, and then we get into all the stories that we got. Scott Jennings, I don't know if you guys saw the video or not, Scott Jennings decides yesterday, out of all the people to go after Viva, he decides to go bonkers on Vivek. What did Vivek do to you, Scott? I mean, Scott, you could have been a little bit more, if you haven't seen this clip, we got a show to you with Scott Jennings. He went off, uh, then apparently there's stories about the fact that Hexet may get fired. Some people are saying he's gonna get fired. Trump's asking people around, hey, what do you think? What do you think? What do you think? Should we fire him? Should you think he's doing a good job? And those kinds of conversations taking place. So he may have that. J D Vance has a tweet. You can tell immediately, two people

• 1:39Patrick Bet-David?

  who jumped and saying, ooh, this is my opportunity to get in for 2028. One is him, the other one is Ron DeSantis. Vance sends a tweet out calling out the president on why the midterm was the way that it was. And the president was forced to react to it. And there's a video we're gonna play to you where president kind of agrees a little bit, but he says, nothing I can do, but I still gotta do what I gotta do. But we have to look at Vance's tweet. It's not one of those novel Bill Ackman type of tweets, but it's pretty long. I wouldn't say it's a Trump type of long tweet, but it's pretty long. The exit polls says why 88% of voters, what was the number one issue for 88% of voters on the exit polls? We have to talk about that. And then Musk, uh, and Trump having a conversation about Trump having

• 2:24Patrick Bet-David?

  to pardon Musk because they're worried that they're gonna go preemptive pardon. You know, some people sell those for 50 mil. If you want one, I mean, there's some, some people that are selling for 50 mil. By the way, let me tell you what's crazy. I get the craziest Monex all the time. Sometimes some weird Monex I get, I send them to Vinnie, like, girls wanna, I'll send them to Vinnie, cause Vinnie does a good job, 15 minutes. But this guy Monex me today saying, hey, um, is there any way you can put me in contact with the people at the White House to see if I can get a pardon? 22 year old, that's a felon. A 22 year old. That's a great use for Monex. Do you realize, what are you doing? You're not asking a question like this. But I say, can I help you? You can, they talked to a lot of other people. This guy cannot help you.

• 3:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Although Alina Haba has a rate card for that.

• 3:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it was 50 million. Trump wasn't happy about that. But, uh, biggest winners and losers, we gotta talk about that. Biggest winners and losers. There's Zelensky that's celebrating a little bit that they won because he knows Democrats are gonna be more pro him than Trump. Trump kinda pushes them a little bit. Democrats are blind loyalty to him, which they would benefit. And you should see the celebration. Ilhan Omar, if you like to see her dance, she was showing her, remember when I was dancing at the Volcom conference, I was doing Armenian? She's, but you gotta see, like, her crip walk was phenomenal. I'll show you the video. It's actually very impressive when she was celebrating. We're gonna talk about the biggest winners and losers. I'm gonna show you something that everybody is thinking it's the end of the world, and it's not. I'm gonna show you a number, two of them, for you to see, for

• 3:48Patrick Bet-David?

  some of the people that are selling you fear porn, end of the world, all this other stuff, then you'll, you'll kinda see what adjustments some people are making and what I think Trump's gonna be doing next two years. I wanna actually think, you know, ask you guys as well, what do you think Trump's gonna be doing next two years? Uh, Scott Galloway, you know, Jennings, there's two Scots we have to be careful with. Scott Jennings went after Vivek, but he went after Vivek for the way he campaigned. Scott Galloway went after Musk for his life. Like it was, I don't know if you guys saw the clip or not. Crazy. So this, like, these Scots have a bad temper. Like, we gotta be careful with these Scott Galloway and Scott Jennings. Kelsey had a big day. Ilan, I don't know if you saw Kelsey this morning. I think both Ilan and Vinnie are gonna put some money on Kelsey.

• 4:29Speaker 03

  I am.

• 4:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Trading, they learned something about Kelsey this morning. That if you put it in, you don't have to wait till the very end. You can take your money out because it's like a stock. You don't have to wait till the company.

• 4:38Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 4:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Khamenei, Khamenei.

• 4:40Speaker 03

  You spit all over, you might get electrocuted.

• 4:42Patrick Bet-David?

  This mic is, you know, Khamenei comes out and tweets something, okay? As if he's alive. But allegedly, he's alive tweeting in a bunker. You know, he's tweeting out there about, uh, you know, Trump and US, then stock market. People are asking, what happened to the stock market? Why'd it go up? Tom's got a very, very good perspective of what's going there. And then inside of Texas and Georgia, having to do with data centers, we'll go into that. Tyler Rico sends a tweet, allegedly saying, the white man is the problem. So to all the white people that are watching this, I got some stats I wanna share with you, to all the white folks in Texas, on what happened to you from 1970 till today. It's very important, specifically for white people. You wanna say white properly? White.

• 5:23Speaker 03

  It's white.

• 5:23Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's white.

• 5:24Speaker 03

  That's the racist, that's the racist.

• 5:26Patrick Bet-David?

  People make fun of my accent. I do my best. I'm white. California got one thing right. The wealth tax for California, Prop 40 and Prop 42. Prop 42 looks like it's gonna end up passing, which means there won't be a wealth tax in California. Rokana had a rough night. No one's talking about. That's a very good sign. It's a very good sign for California, although Nithya Raman, the socialist left of Karen Bass, like a Maldani, even left of Maldani, is allegedly gonna be beating Karen Bass. So Karen Bass has to step away and LA's got a beautiful socialist mayor. Don't you love that? You know, all the homelessness encampment.

• 5:58Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 5:58Patrick Bet-David?

  It's gonna be phenomenal.

• 6:00Speaker 03

  So good.

• 6:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Maloney in Italy is worried about her millionaires leaving, so she's proposing a wealth tax, kinda like Canada. If you're gonna leave, Vinnie, you have to pay the wealth tax before you leave. And then Johnny Depp is whispering that he may do Pirates of the Caribbean. We have to talk about that. And on the ballot, do you know Idaho had a, on the ballot, on what's gonna be the best gun for the state?

• 6:23Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 6:23Patrick Bet-David?

  They voted for their favorite gun for the state. And when, when I read this to you, this is Idaho. I don't know what the number is, but they have a high percentage of people that carry there. Like, you literally will go there, while you're having dinner at, you know, your restaurant, you'll put all the guns on there and they'll, excuse us, can we move this? You got the AK-47 stuff? Let me move the M16. Here's your clam chowder, Viva. Enjoy the clam chowder. Bunch of rounds on the table in Idaho. It doesn't look like that, but that's just a visual I'm giving you. The only way I eat. Yeah. And then, and then we got, we got a couple other things we'll get into. I wanna show you guys a video of, of how it depicts what happened to Texas, and then what happens with people going from California, because it became too blue, to Texas, to Florida, and then we'll get into that. So with that being said, you know what shirt I'm wearing?

• 7:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm wearing a shirt from Abraham Lincoln that says, "Future looks bright," with his nice shades that he has, because we firmly believe, yeah. There is nobody, if you wanna upset your enemy, your haters, people who look at you as if you have to be defeated, nothing irritates your enemies and your critics more than you staying confident about the future looking bright and having hope. Do you know what pissed off Hitler the most in Germany? Christians. He hated Christians. Why? Because they believed everything was gonna work out and they were not afraid of him. They're like, God's in charge, buddy. I don't care how powerful you think you are. God's million times bigger than you. It's infinite times

• 7:49Patrick Bet-David?

  bigger than you. There is nothing you can do. If you want to piss off your enemies, if you want to piss off all the people that are thinking you're worried, go out there and say, buddy, future looks bright. I got nothing to worry about. I'm gonna do my part. A mentor of mine back in the day, so a man named Greg said something very powerful, stuck with me till today. I was 23 years old, first time he said this. He said, pray like it's up to God, but work like it's up to you. And as long as we do that, we're gonna be squared away. Last time we had dinner with Steve O and his father, it was a three hour, we should have recorded that fight. We had a good time with Steve O. But with that being said, before we get into the podcast, I want you to turn your attentions to possibly the most comfortable loafers you will ever wear in the world. Go ahead.

• 8:31Patrick Bet-David?

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• 9:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to FLB.com, place your order, and if you don't have any gear for Future Looks Bright, go put it on, go to work, let people realize you're very confident and optimistic about the future. With that being said, let's get right into it. Reaction, number one reaction. So, right after the election is done, midterms, numbers, everybody is sitting there, oh my God, this is the worst day ever. Cannot believe how many seats was flipped. What's gonna happen here? Do you know Trump lost how many seats? Plus, minus, it's what? 40, 41? Some are saying 40, but it's gonna end up being 41. Do you know what Bill Clinton and Obama, don't show it yet, what do you think is the most seats they lost, Tom, when they were president? Obama and Clinton? What do you think come out of seats?

• 9:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I have it in front of me, but I'm not gonna answer it.

• 9:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So what do you think the number is? Ilan, I'll come to you guys.

• 9:55Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I know it's a lot. commensurate?

• 9:57Speaker 04

  Oh, I would have not guessed that.

• 9:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You would have not guessed that. What do you think the number is?

• 10:00Speaker 04

  I would have thought.

• 10:01Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, in twenty, in twenty eighteen, Trump lost, I think, twenty-four seats. But what do you think is the most Clinton and Obama lost when they were president? On their second term, what do you think it is? Watch this. You ready? Pull it up. Clinton in ninety-four lost fifty-four house seats.

• 10:18Speaker 04

  I would have never guessed that.

• 10:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Obama's record, sixty-three house seats. And Trump's at forty and twenty-five. Meaning, even though you're seeing all the stuff that's taking place, the seventh senate, what's the numbers? Let me read it to you. Seven senates, forty house, five governors, five attorney generals, eight state chambers. By the way, Texas not only lost governor, they lost senate and they lost AG because Ken Paxton, who was the AG, steps out to go out there and become the senator. He lost the AG, that went to the left and the state and the governor. But in the past, this shellacking has happened before. And by the way, when Obama lost sixty-three, guess what he did? He still went and got a lot of things done. So for me, when you see a number like this, Tom, I'll come to you first. And, and by the way, can you pull up the other tweet as well? I want, I wanted to find out, over the years,

• 11:03Patrick Bet-David?

  how often has the house been controlled by Democrats? You think it's more Republican, you think it's more Democrat? I mean, you saw it right there. So take a look.

• 11:09Speaker 04

  Oh, more Democrat.

• 11:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this right there. Thirty-one controlled Democrats all the way through. Keep going. Republicans had it for a couple of times there. But it's blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue. Look at that. But then look. Look how many years, Vinnie. Okay, go, go back up. Look at it from fifty-six all the way to ninety-four, Vinnie.

• 11:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Since Eisenhower, an incredibly popular wartime president that got it.

• 11:33Patrick Bet-David?

  And then look at it. Republicans. Then you got Republicans from ninety-six to two thousand and seven. Then Obama comes, Dems, then Republicans eight, then left four, then Republicans. So now, th- this thing that people see thinking it's the end of the world. But I'll come to you, Tom, first. With, with everything that happened, we're going to get to the JD Vance tweet here in a minute. Matter of fact, let's just get into it so we can set it up. Here's what JD had to say. One of the most important data analysts in our site observed over was composition, whether the electorate looked close enough to twenty twenty-four Republicans to win. And despite polls that showed a Democrat lower, the data kept on telling us the same story. In some states turnout was merely okay, in other states it was downright amazing. And in no state was it catastrophic.

• 12:16Patrick Bet-David?

  There was a genuine self of optimism on our team. Our people were showing up. So I asked the smartest data guy I know, does this mean we're going to shock the world? No, he told me, we might do better than the polls suggest. Is this the right tweet? Go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower. Yeah, right.

• 12:32Speaker 04

  The real reason we lost, there it is.

• 12:34Patrick Bet-David?

  So another pollster, one of the smartest people I know in politics, told me yesterday, we'd lose the generic ballot by thirteen points. I felt negative going into Tuesday. But even I was shocked by this in his polling. He saw that a lot of Trump twenty twenty-four voters were angry and planning to vote for Democrats. He asked those voters who had abandoned us would cause them to come back on our team? The top four answers accounting for nearly all of the responses were end of the, end of war. Number two, focus on cost of living inflation. Number three, put America first. Number four, change our relationship to Israel. Our voters showed up and the above four reasons are why many of them voted for Democrats. This is according to a pollster who nailed the results. Can you go to Trump reacting to JD's tweet here?

• 13:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's what Trump had to say to JD when he was asked, what do you think about what JD had to say? On why we lost? And here's what he had to say. Go for it.

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• 15:51Tom Ellsworth?

  A loss last night was the war in Iran.

• 15:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I think it's largely true because it drove the gasoline up a little bit, short term. And probably that's, probably it's true. But at the same time, if I had it to do again, I'd have to do it again. Because long term, it's the only answer. You can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon.

• 16:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you feel like it was more great?

• 16:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom. I do, yeah. I mean, well, you have no choice. I mean, I thought the, well, we'd go a lot more and I did it on that. The plus minus, the historic, you know, you know, my God, it's the end of the world. JD's reaction to the four things, where do you stand with this?

• 16:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I, I hate that this happened, but this is a midterm result. I, I took it in the chops. Thank you very much for, you know, underwriting decision twenty twenty-six.

• 16:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You crushed it. You were a star.

• 16:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, but also it was VT Analytics. And you're an investor, you invest in things, and we invested in our own numbers. And when we came out and said, look, eighty-five percent chance it's going to be fifty-five and one, there's one independent out there, but he votes with the Democrats, it's fifty-six, forty-four. So we were right. I had people calling me, you know, Israel's bitch and worse and stuff. And I'm like, why is your head in the sands? This happens in a midterm and the people are legitimately upset and they need a better product. What I think is really interesting, why did Clinton and Obama, I have a different take. Clinton and Obama lost worse at the midterms because they touched the third rail of healthcare costs. Both of them did. Remember, Clinton tried to do a nationalized healthcare. And remember, Lewinsky was second term and he got slammed.

• 17:19Patrick Bet-David?

  But she may have been working in the first term, but people found out about him the second. I don't, I want to give her credit for her hard work.

• 17:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I once saw, I once saw.

• 17:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he was grateful for her.

• 17:29Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way.

• 17:30Patrick Bet-David?

  He was tough with Hillary, but.

• 17:30Tom Ellsworth?

  I once saw a very inappropriate chart that showed the stock market versus the days that Lewinsky was allegedly visiting the president. And there was a correlation. So I was thinking, wait a minute. If this is correlated, maybe we should just keep the president happy and the economy will charge.

• 17:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Inappropriate, but I get the joke.

• 17:49Tom Ellsworth?

  So it's, well, it wasn't my joke, it came off Wall Street. So fifty-four for Clinton, sixty-three for Obama, when Americans really freaked out. And so what it shows me is when the Dems think that they've got everything together and they start to push Dem Dem things, you know what happens? The American people have historically, in very recent history, come back and said, no, thank you. And they were no thank you harder at those midterms. But we have to look at it straight. The product that we ended up showing, that the conservatives ended up with, with all those things that JD Vance said, was not a product that people want. And guess what? They called them the, the, the defectors. And there were the independent votes defected and the new Republicans.

• 18:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Remember all those Republicans that registered twenty twenty-four and afterwards? Ron DeSantis talked about the ones that registered in Florida. They defected too. Remember Byron won, but look at the margin of victory. It wasn't five, six, seven points as predicted. It was tight until ten o'clock.

• 18:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it the end of the world, Tom?

• 18:53Tom Ellsworth?

  No, the future looks bright because we fixed some of those things, similar to what JD says. And we get us going back where we should and let the voice of the people be heard. And I think things are going to go back. Is the road going to be easy? No, we have seven senators that have a six-year lifespan now, political lifespan, that are there that are not going to get unseated. You know, so, you know, for six years.

• 19:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Viva.

• 19:17Tom Ellsworth?

  So we got work to do, but the future looks bright.

• 19:19Speaker 04

  First thing, I think that pollster, that smartest man that JD Vance knows is Richard Barris, People's Pundit, if I had to guess. And the issue is that people have been warning about these things for a very long time. And people had their either heads in the sand or were demonizing the people sounding the alarm. It, it's not, I mean, it's catastrophic, but it's not extinction level like, like DeSantis is suggesting. But the highlights the problem where Trump is saying, okay, I would do it again with Iran. But what is the it? Because the issue was there were moving targets, multiple goals with the intervention in Iran. It went from regime change to freeing the Iranian people, to no nuclear weapon, which ought to have been, or we were told was resolved after Operation Midnight Hammer, where people were like, okay, we don't like it, but if it's a pinpoint strike and, you know, limited, fine.

• 20:03Speaker 04

  Then it became a moving target where you don't even know what the goal is. You don't know when you've achieved it. And Trump coming out now and saying, I'd do it again when, after eight months of a non-war, that's not a never-ending war, but it's still a war and it's still ongoing. And we don't know if we've achieved the goal? I mean, that leaves a lot of uncertainty where people are going like, I don't even know what the goal is anymore, but we warned you against this. It's had the impact we predicted and now we're defecting and we're trying to show you, you know, teach you a lesson.

• 20:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I'm going to take it.

• 20:25Speaker 04

  Great point. It became Viet Ron. Well, I'm going to take an unpopular opinion.

• 20:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I haven't heard that. I've been heavily outspoken against the messaging around the war regardless of how you feel whether it was justified or not the messaging has been terrible and the goalpost has changed consistently we still don't know what the objective is even right now as he says we might go back in we don't know what the objective is but I want to talk about something else that I think is going on I opened up my and I've been screaming that this is gonna happen for a very long time just for a different cause I've been saying that Israel will be the Trojan horse that ushers in the the DSA socialism Islamism and I've I studied mass psychosis I did a documentary on mass psychosis okay and what we see right now in society is very akin to covid very akin to the Salem witch trials where you have a real grievance in society you have a very real grievance the economy and every single if you look at every single thing that that JD Vance listed there can

• 21:14Patrick Bet-David?

  all be tied back to Israel that's what every single person does they take the Iran war and they go Trump is secretly working for Israel and I opened up my Instagram our taxes the reason you don't have universal healthcare we even saw the ad that came out for Abdul El Said secretly because of Israel and it's become a singular point to justify all the grievances that you experience and this has been infiltrating the right for a very long time I've been talking about it people are underestimating the America first movement they're underestimating the impact it's having and the new you're a witch is now you're Israel first and people don't realize how powerful that actually is I turned on my Instagram today I got video after video after video after video I don't know if you're in my algorithm of videos telling you I was happy I didn't vote because a vote for Trump would have been a vote for Israel or they're both the same party and I get the same thing

• 21:59Patrick Bet-David?

  which is a war for Israel repeated over and over and over all over social media some of it organic some of it pushed by foreign adversaries who are now celebrating exactly what's happening and it has managed to fracture the right and again I've been warning against this for a very long time if Israel disappears today our economy doesn't suddenly get better doesn't suddenly solve our problem but they're still gonna be able to use it because that's how mass psychosis

• 22:22Speaker 03

  but but with all that said can you you cannot dismiss the the obvious blatant influence that AIPAC and them and let's just be honest even put Israel aside Lindsey Graham the Wall Street Journal article Pat do you remember it it was called Lindsey's quest to sell Trump on striking Iran it was a huge article where Lindsey's in there and we know how Trump is Trump is a ego alpha and he's probably you know what he said to him he goes when I say Roosevelt what comes to your mind he would everybody bro everybody was selling him on this war and when it comes to the JD Vance thing Pat I'm kinda like whatever with JD Vance because you don't need four what were the four end the Iran war focus on the cost of living inflation what was the other one put America first change our relationship

• 23:06Speaker 03

  you only need one no you only need one one put America first I don't know why it's at number three okay

• 23:12Patrick Bet-David?

  they're all the same thing

• 23:13Speaker 03

  that exactly that alone covers everything end the war bring down the cost of living all that stuff but what about everything else like think about the corruption that's happened that we're that we're seeing even with what's her name Alina Habba and all these freaking people lack of answers that you mentioned about the Epstein thing which to me was huge and then we were basically told shut up it's old news move on which I didn't like about that and then going after all these political people Elon Elon Omar Pat you were joking about she's krip walking are we just forgetting about the brother and this and the investigation and all that stuff

• 23:42Patrick Bet-David?

  billions in fraud

• 23:43Speaker 03

  yeah yeah exactly and nothing's happening so but bro putting America first was the entire reason this movement existed but I do want to say one thing too Pat Tuesday what Tuesday night disaster Iran war mistake gas prices okay but I want everybody to understand don't forget all you all you people that are talking at me and coming at me online I can care less if you forget for one second what Donald Trump went through and what he did to get to where he was at mistakes have been made okay but from the beginning remember 99% Hillary's gonna win he came in he won and the moment he won what happened Cuomo CNN every everybody and their mother Russia Putin asset he fought I don't know how he

• 24:25Speaker 03

  did anything right in those four years Pat every every day investigation he still did his job and still had to go against everybody the whole swamp all of them and despite that but besides covid which you guys know my take with with China and everything look at what he did destroyed ISIS unemployment 50 year low appointed three Supreme justices historical tax cuts 2020 came and they ruined him they impeached him they tried to shoot shoot him yes he's not perfect yes we're in bad shape the midterms showed whatever but don't sleep on what he did and don't forget about what Donald Trump did for this freaking country while everybody was against

• 25:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I wanna I wanna share this with you great insight all of you guys going through this and all of that saying hey it comes down to putting America first I'm gonna show you this Clinton's approval rating right after the loss I showed you dropped to 37% okay when he was done on his second term you know where he was at 66% okay

• 25:22Speaker 03

  66

• 25:22Patrick Bet-David?

  66% okay then you go to Obama Obama dropped to 38% and then when he left office 60% okay so the the profile of a guy like Donald Trump in life how many times you think he's had a public humiliating loss Trump many I would imagine how many think he's had do you think this ranks in the top 10 yes okay where do you put this in the most humiliating loss you don't need to qualify it as humiliating but let's say devastating yeah where do you put that I'd say it's number one I don't think it is I think 2020 was number one okay I think when he lost to Biden that that was the one that kinda by the way bankruptcy is about to lose everything he's gonna go

• 26:05Patrick Bet-David?

  broke 900 million dollars he owes to the bank he has no clue what to do he goes oh there's been so many marriages first one second one all these things that came up you know issues but this is gonna be a top three issue for him on what he went through the the part that people underestimate when you go through the seven characteristics of somebody that has what it takes to be a president what's number four fearlessness how they how they step back from controversy and what they do with it what do you think he's doing you think he wants to sleep and just relax and you don't think he has a strategy right now what he's gonna be doing you don't think he's gonna go back and regroup and come back with different thoughts and ideas he's gonna be thinking that how much of this is gonna be happening you know what things he can change what things he can change who knows

• 26:50Patrick Bet-David?

  some but but you better believe his DNA and his wiring is he's gonna come back today if you look at the stock market day after election I think it was I don't know the exact number but let me kind of uh Tom if you look at it yesterday yesterday was up what 1400 1500 1500 and then that was up again today and and when you think stock market Tom why is the sentiment of the stock market up why are people happy about the stock market being up

• 27:14Tom Ellsworth?

  so the stock people are happy about the stock market being up that means your 401k is your personal investment your little Robin Hood account anybody who's in the stock market is okay calamity didn't happen now what are the markets markets hate uncertainty more than they hate any political party they hate uncertainty even more uncertainty is Satan the S and P that's the broadest measure of American business and it voted with its wallet you know what it did Pat 2% move on day one wasn't noise that was institutional money repositioning a divided government means less radical policy swings in either direction and the markets love it the NASDAQ rallied on Wednesday it was really really incredible the the futures were down a little bit today but the AI chip trade is moving

• 27:57Tom Ellsworth?

  why because Texas and Georgia have Democrat governors that are gonna change their position on data centers data centers that are getting built create demand for chips so there's a little bit going on there but the markets love the fact that they can predict

• 28:11Patrick Bet-David?

  gridlock

• 28:11Tom Ellsworth?

  on

• 28:12Patrick Bet-David?

  they love gridlock

• 28:13Tom Ellsworth?

  and by the way I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say who it was cause I'm not gonna call out because I don't particularly like a couple of the reporters on this but they correctly today as they opened up the pre-market show on one of the business news channels they were playing Talking Heads we're on the road to nowhere come on inside it's a really old Talking Heads song but the underlying message was Washington's on the road to nowhere they're not going they're not going to the right so guess what we can just ride and that's that's what

• 28:42Patrick Bet-David?

  okay so so JD jumps in about you know hey making sure how much of this tweet you think it is to let the market know I'm slightly different than Trump how much you think it is 63 million views

• 28:55Tom Ellsworth?

  huge

• 28:56Patrick Bet-David?

  how much you think this is like lobbying positioning for 2028 I was gonna say more for 2028 than for the market no no for sure but but for him to kind of identify that hey I'm different than Trump I'm not like Trump and I was always sort of the back behind the doors opposing in the first place and this was not my fault and this was not despite my but but I tell you there's also video clip I don't know if we have in a back or not where you know JD came up and defended the war against Iran I don't know if you remember that clip or not 2024 no no 25 I don't know what it was he was one of the first that came up is this it yeah go for it play this clip watch this

• 29:31Speaker 06

  the most important part I think of the Trump doctrine and foreign policy is you don't commit America's troops unless you really have to but when you do you punch and you punch hard I think that's the way that you respect America's brave men and women who are serving now let me say something about when you say that does that like for example how President Trump beat the caliphate it was overwhelming force and it was done pretty fast how President Trump beat the caliphate beat ISIS which people said literally couldn't be done and he did it in a matter of months but also Iran Sean a lot of people recognize that we need to do something with Iran but not these weak little bombing runs if you're gonna punch the Iranians you punch them hard and that's what he did

• 30:09Patrick Bet-David?

  so this is gonna come back and what's the exact date on this one now now JD is coming out saying I'm not I'm you know I'm different I'm this I'm that he has to he's trying to distance himself right not distance himself but just position himself in a different place DeSantis two days before midterms said what was gonna happen on the Stephen A Smith podcast then he comes up and if you have the clip of what he said afterwards of how bad of a night it was if you can pull up DeSantis there was a speech he gave I don't know the exact words he used but he said something about it was one of the worst nights in the Republican you know party in 100 years go ahead this is the clip

• 30:47Speaker 06

  but let's just be clear about what happened last night this is close to an extinction level event for Republicans in many parts of the country as we have seen probably in the last 100 years in January when everyone in office leaves who were either term limited or got voted out of the 10 largest states in this union only one state will have Republican control of their state the state of Florida if you look at our chief rival in a in a healthy sense the state of Texas and I would say over the last over my lifetime Texas has been the crown jewel of Republican politics I think

• 31:32Speaker 06

  We've been the leader for Republicans and conservatives since I've been governor. But if you go over the whole generation, no one holds a candle on the Republican side to the Lone Star State. And yet, not only did they lose a very highly publicized US Senate race, they lost everything. The governor, Attorney General, all the other statewide. They lost four Republican Supreme Court justices on the Texas Supreme Court. They may even lose the Texas Legislature, or one house, or even both. Let's just be clear, that is going to hurt, not just for the next two years. That's something that can reverberate for the next decade or more.

• 32:12Speaker 06

  And if the Republican Party doesn't have Texas as an anchor, then we are not going to be viable nationally.

• 32:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and by the way, you can pause it right there. So you got JD jumps in immediately. DeSantis, you know, and by the way, while we were having a conversation at the wedding, one of the main topics at the wedding, can bring up names with people that I talked to, was Donalds can't lose. Okay, and by the way, it got very close, it was 100,000 votes.

• 32:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Forty-eight points.

• 32:39Patrick Bet-David?

  A lot closer than.

• 32:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Very, very scary.

• 32:41Patrick Bet-David?

  The main reason why he won is because of Ron DeSantis.

• 32:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 32:45Patrick Bet-David?

  The number one reason why Byron Donalds won is because of Ron DeSantis. You can say whatever you want, the main reason, number one reason was Ron DeSantis. But when Ron is saying this, can you go to the Kalshi numbers? What is Kalshi telling us? Because, so if you go to Kalshi right there, pre-election, pre-election, go to November 1st, November 2nd, look where Ron's at. Vinny, look at this. On November 2nd, he's at 3.9%. JD's at 35, Rubio's at 23.5. Come to today? Come to today, go all the way to today.

• 33:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Boom.

• 33:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta get on it so I can see the numbers, yeah. Ron goes to 18, Rubio's at 21, JD drops to 31.9. He's 6X'd his chances of becoming a president, and he came up, and a lot of people right now are saying, he may even be above those two, because the way they breaking it down, they're saying, well, you know, Rubio is tied to Iran, JD hasn't necessarily built a lot of coalitions, you know, Ron DeSantis has had a track record as a governor, executive, running a state for two, you know, two terms, and he's done a pretty good job, and guess what? The guy that came after him also won because of him, which is who? Byron Donalds.

• 33:56Patrick Bet-David?

  So who do you think, in regard to who now, you know, rises up as a potential 2028 candidate? Who do you see, Tom?

• 34:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, 2028 candidate, I mean, Ron DeSantis just came up in the eyes of so many people, Republicans everywhere are looking to Florida, and they, they're, even though, so you know how sometimes, Pat, everybody is like, you know, 140 characters is their news, right? They don't really pay attention. Even the most distracted Republican has got to look to Florida and go, wow, you know, governor and senator, wow, Florida pulled together, maybe the Florida stuff's real. And what it does is elevates, now, why was this? Everybody's talked about Ron DeSantis. Hmm, interesting, a guy I gotta look at, look at. So, and that's what you're seeing right here, you're seeing this big spike here. I believe that the two guys that jumped up the day, the morning, the minute after this

• 34:49Tom Ellsworth?

  election was done, and there's still things being called, and I think the Dems are going to get to their 241 seats in the House, is this, Ossoff and DeSantis. You've got major PACs that are out there, and I've seen things out there, big PACs are moving money, and Ossoff and DeSantis were the benefactors, but DeSantis has leaped in the Republicans, and Ossoff has gone into damn orbit on the Democrat side.

• 35:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, if you look at this, go from where Ossoff was at, no, no, go back a little bit, yeah, go back right there, he's at second place at 15%, Newsom 69, AOC 14, and then all of a sudden, go to today?

• 35:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, he's gone up to 27.

• 35:29Patrick Bet-David?

  27.

• 35:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Also said, he's suborbital now, he's on.

• 35:32Speaker 04

  I'm betting on him today.

• 35:33Tom Ellsworth?

  But these things, these things shift so much in the span of two months, three months, never mind, you know, two years. The thing with DeSantis is, last time, he, he kind of lost steam, I don't know what it was about his campaign.

• 35:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Terrible marketing.

• 35:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, and so he fixed that.

• 35:47Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, nobody wanted DeSantis in '24. There's only one person, people wanted Trump for redemption.

• 35:53Tom Ellsworth?

  I wanted DeSantis.

• 35:54Patrick Bet-David?

  DeSantis got in.

• 35:55Speaker 04

  Well, that was, that was my point.

• 35:56Patrick Bet-David?

  What I'm saying to you, a lot of people wanted Trump to come in to redeem himself. To redeem himself, and DeSantis could have handled it in a different way, but things changed. People change, things change, it's a different season right now, go ahead.

• 36:07Speaker 04

  That's what I was gonna say, like, back in the day when we moved down to Florida, and it was like, you move to Florida, but you don't support DeSantis for president. I'm like, no, it has to be Trump right now, because of the history that led to this moment, it's not DeSantis's time. He's a great governor, and I think he'll be, he will make a great potential presidential candidate, but it wasn't his time then, it needed to be Trump, Trump needed to come in and carry out the transformational presidency that he had the opportunity to carry out. What drives me nuts is that he didn't. And to go back to what you said earlier about what it means to be a successful man, you gotta not be afraid of loss, but you gotta learn from it. And when people are sort of now blaming the people who were raising the criticism or not learning the lessons, what Trump needs to do is fire the yes men that were in his circle, that kept him siloed from what the criticism was of the people that handed him

• 36:50Speaker 04

  this defeat, and if he doesn't fire them, you might not.

• 36:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Such as, who should he fire?

• 36:54Speaker 04

  I would say, get rid of Susie Wiles, who seems to be the gatekeeper.

• 36:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Fire Wiles, okay.

• 36:58Speaker 04

  Get rid of Wiles, and I would say, get rid of the social media team, that instead of listening to what was going on from the people that elected him, instead decided to call them all sorts of names and demonize them, and serve them what people knew was coming a year and a half in advance.

• 37:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So fire Susie Wiles and fire the social media team? That's your position?

• 37:15Speaker 04

  I would.

• 37:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you agree with him, Tom?

• 37:17Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I don't think it's a comms issue with, I love you, dude, but this is not, you're thinking of it that it's an internal and a communications issue, it's not. I think the guy, when the boss starts asking around about you, Hegseth, and you were 64% approval, and you started a war, and gas is $4 a gallon, I'm sorry, that's, that's, that's not communications, that's a pink slip. And I think Hegseth is the one that's going to be in the crosshairs, and I'm not just following what's out here, I've also seen, you know, we like Pete, you know, he's been on the podcast, he wrote a great book, Spirit of the American Soldier and everything, I like that, but there's things here, I think this is the guy that's gonna be first.

• 37:58Speaker 04

  Well, 100% it's gonna fall.

• 38:00Patrick Bet-David?

  When? You think he's gonna get fired next 30 days? Can you run a poll real quick? Do you believe Hegseth will be fired in the next 30 days? Yes, no?

• 38:08Speaker 04

  And check the Kalshi markets on that, I mean, guaranteed there's Kalshi market on the first.

• 38:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Next two, two months, I think Hegseth. But, but, I'm, I'm end of year.

• 38:15Speaker 04

  But getting rid of Hegseth, getting rid of Hegseth is the symptom, it's the issue is who is picking, who is making these picks, who is keeping Trump in a silo where he thought that a war with Iran would be popular?

• 38:24Patrick Bet-David?

  You think that's Susie Wiles?

• 38:25Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think he cared if it was popular, you guys are misunderstanding, Trump has been, I have a video from 1987, where Trump is talking about Iran, and you see him talk about it every 10 years, and by the way. Mentioning Carg Island by name. By name, talking about his whole plan, talking about taking the petrol and the oil, and he, this is not new for Trump, that's what I don't understand, why people keep talking about this.

• 38:46Speaker 04

  Holding up a video from 10, 20 years ago is different than the campaign from 2024.

• 38:50Tom Ellsworth?

  I know where he said, no new wars, but if he, Trump is the kind of guy, where if he genuinely believed that the threat is there, and again, as much as we try and say, every two weeks, every two weeks, they were saying this, every two weeks, it was the UN's own committee for watchdog for nuclear proliferation that came out with the report. It was Tulsi Gabbard, who is by no means a warhawk, who came out and said, we're getting, they're getting close.

• 39:15Speaker 03

  After, wait, wait, after she's, no, no, she first said they didn't.

• 39:18Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 39:19Speaker 03

  And then they went to her and they said, eh, no, no.

• 39:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Not them, it's the UN watchdog, they, they confirmed 60% proliferation of nuclear material, they confirmed.

• 39:29Speaker 03

  So who's responsible for effing it up, meaning everything that they, they told them would be easy?

• 39:34Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not even promoting Iran war.

• 39:35Speaker 03

  No, I understand, but who was in his ear that said, hey, trust me, this is gonna be easy?

• 39:41Tom Ellsworth?

  I know, you're gonna, you're gonna bring it back.

• 39:42Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, I'm not bringing it back, it was.

• 39:44Patrick Bet-David?

  To who?

• 39:45Speaker 03

  Netanyahu. No, no, I'm not bringing, I'm not even talking about Netanyahu, I'm saying, who, was it Pete Hegseth that was like, bro, we're gonna bomb them and it's gonna be over quick? Who?

• 39:54Patrick Bet-David?

  You think Hegseth said that?

• 39:55Speaker 03

  No, I, no. That's what I'm trying to say, is Pat?

• 39:57Tom Ellsworth?

  He thinks Netanyahu.

• 39:58Speaker 04

  No, well, first of all, I won't say who it was, although it's now sort of the leaked secret is that it was Netanyahu saying, yeah, this will be another Venezuela, and apparently Rubio, behind closed doors, was saying, it's not gonna be another Venezuela, but he's surrounded by a bunch of yes men who said, go ahead and do it anyhow.

• 40:12Patrick Bet-David?

  What does that have to do with Susie Wiles?

• 40:14Speaker 04

  Well, I'm saying.

• 40:15Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the part that I'm questioning your.

• 40:16Speaker 04

  Chief of Staff, who picks what Trump hears and what gets to him, I mean, I think Susie Wiles is the gatekeeper, and if I'm wrong about that.

• 40:23Speaker 03

  But you know what?

• 40:24Tom Ellsworth?

  The problem is Trump, and it's hard to hear that, it's who he is and what he wanted to do.

• 40:28Patrick Bet-David?

  The, the part here, the part here, is you can, you can point fingers, look, in a sports team, like, if you look at what's going on with the Yankees right now, what is the problem with the Yankees right now? Nobody's afraid for their jobs.

• 40:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 40:40Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're not afraid for your job, you come to work, there's no way I'm, every day, as an entrepreneur, you have to be afraid of losing your customers, every day. Every day, you have to come in and say, what do we need to do to keep our clients? Look what happened to Nike. Nothing's gonna happen, Colin Kaepernick, 261 billion dollar company, down to 50 billion dollar company, nothing's gonna happen with Netflix, nothing's gonna happen with Disney, from a 450 billion dollar company to a 200 billion dollar company. I think, at the end of the day, if he runs like a boss, the first thing he's gonna do is gonna fire a couple people, I don't think Susie's gonna be one to fire, she may quit and resign because she had some health issues herself, but I think, is Hegseth one to put on? I think it's him. I think it's the leader, everything rises and falls on leadership.

• 41:23Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree.

• 41:24Patrick Bet-David?

  You, we can, you know, when things happen, and people say, well, it's Pat's fault, it's Pat's fault, partly, I'll say, yeah, I think it is, because I'm the leader, so you gotta take the onus as the leader that this is a decision I need to make. Who that is, I don't know, I know behind closed doors.

• 41:41Patrick Bet-David?

  He's gotta adjust. Sometimes I'll sit in a room and I'll talk to Tom. Okay, and I'll go to our executive team and they'll give an idea to me. I think we need to do this. I remember one time, we're at a, I don't know where we are, and I had this executive who was just a pain in the ass for everybody. For whatever reason, he was causing so much noise, so much pain for everybody. And it was so difficult to get shit done through him. We're on a trip, I call a meeting, I bring everybody upstairs. Everybody's panicking, we're not ready to fire this person. I said, we're firing the guy right now. No, he's been with me for 18 months. We're firing him right now. Tom, we're all teetering like, Pat, we need 90 days. Nope, you're gonna figure it out.

• 42:22Patrick Bet-David?

  He's getting fired immediately. Ask him to fly back and he's not gonna be here. We made the decision, we moved on. And I took the pressure of, it's all gonna work itself out. And you know what happened, Tom? How quickly did we get over it?

• 42:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Really, what was interesting is by the end, there was a big meeting with a lot of field salespeople together. It was a big company summit. And by the afternoon of that meeting, everybody felt a lift.

• 42:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it was done. And by the way, it took one day for this to happen.

• 42:45Tom Ellsworth?

  It's like mentally, there was no drama by 5pm.

• 42:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I think what needs to happen today, I do agree that some people need to get fired. And I don't think there's anybody in the world that is more famous for firing people than one guy. So I do think he's gonna readjust. Who that's going to be, who knows? In the topic of Israel, a lot of times when you win or lose, like you're saying, well, he didn't keep his promises. He didn't do this, and he didn't do that, and he didn't do this. Okay, last night, we're having dinner, me, Vinnie,

• 43:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Steve-O and Ted.

• 43:17Patrick Bet-David?

  And even Dan was involved in some of the conversations. I said, you know, the number one thing above all that we forget about is, three years ago, we were worried about illegal immigrants, what they were doing. FYI, you wanna know what happened in Texas? How DeSantis says, I never thought Texas, he's taking shots at Texas. And why is he taking shots at Texas? He's eliminating, DeSantis is a strategic, brilliant guy, he knows what he's doing. He's eliminating his competitors, one by one by one by one by one, he's going through. Ted Cruz is Texas. Okay, you got certain things that is Texas. He knows Ted wants to run as well. This guy knows what he's doing right now. He's playing the games of what's gonna be taking place.

• 43:58Patrick Bet-David?

  But you know, one of the data points that you gotta give credits to the Democrats, this whole Antonio Gramsci, what is it, the slow walkthrough institutions? I don't know the exact phrase of what they use. Do you know in 1970, what was the white population in Texas? In 1970, Tom.

• 44:15Tom Ellsworth?

  72%.

• 44:16Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think the white population was in 1970? 1970, white population in Texas.

• 44:24Tom Ellsworth?

  I know, could you tell me?

• 44:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You know you can say it. What do you think it is?

• 44:26Tom Ellsworth?

  I would guess, maybe 50, 60%. Because for a long time, Texas had a lot of Hispanics and legacy Mexicans.

• 44:35Patrick Bet-David?

  1970 was 89%.

• 44:37Tom Ellsworth?

  I was on, I was one point off. I was one, I said 90.

• 44:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know what it was in 2000? In 2000, it hits 50%. Today, it's 39%. So what happened in Texas? One by one by, you don't think illegal immigration helped them out?

• 44:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Absolutely.

• 44:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Let people in, let people in, let people in.

• 44:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Of course. And they were fighting them to kick them out. 100%, that's the plot.

• 44:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So then, I wanna show you this clip. So part of what Democrats did slowly is they moved people around. Can you do me a favor, play that clip? The funny clip about people, the guys that moved from California, say, I'm sick and tired of California. We're gonna move to Texas. Watch this clip here. It's funny, but it makes the point of exactly what's going on in America today. And how the Democrats are winning. Watch this, go forward.

• 45:23Speaker 06

  We voted for a better California.

• 45:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Vote blue.

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• 48:00Speaker 03

  $200?

• 48:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't feel safe anymore.

• 48:06Speaker 03

  That's it, we're moving to Texas.

• 48:13Speaker 03

  No crime, cheap gas, we love Texas.

• 48:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep. I mean, it's not even satire, it's 100% accurate.

• 48:25Tom Ellsworth?

  100% accurate.

• 48:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't feel safe anymore.

• 48:28Speaker 03

  That's it, we're moving to Florida.

• 48:32Speaker 03

  Where y'all from? California, we're here to fix Florida.

• 48:38Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, as funny as that sounds, that's what's happened. They sat there and they say, move all the California people to Texas, but they still voted on the left. Gradually, hey, open the border, let the people in. 2.4 million people self-deported, but the rest stuck around. What did those people do? Which side they gonna vote for? What are they gonna be doing? Voting for conservatives? No. And you don't think when they get Supreme Court, how quickly, if they control Supreme Court, you think they're gonna find a way to do amnesty and convert all of those guys into citizens?

• 49:06Tom Ellsworth?

  100%.

• 49:06Patrick Bet-David?

  How quickly do you think they're gonna do it?

• 49:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's a lot of things, by the way, you're talking about Texas. Hino Hossa, who is governor-elect, the first thing she's gonna do is they created a business court in Texas in advance of all of the business policies that they brought there, and in advance of the Texas Stock Exchange you're trying to build. So now on the business court, she gets to a point, I believe the number is four judges. So now, all of those pro-business policies that were brought to Texas, guess what? She's gonna do that. Second, she's changing data center regulations and she's rolling back some of the benefits they were given to put in Texas. She's promised to do it. I'm rolling back some of the data center favoritism, so get ready. That is already what she said. So when she says what she's gonna do, believe her. That's where she's going.

• 49:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Wait, wait, I got a little pushback on the whole thing, of like the immigration. If you look, these people who are coming in are historically very religious, they're Catholic, they hold traditional values. They are very pro-left at the moment, because they feel like that's their pathway to citizenship. But once they're here, over time, they may eventually become red-leaning. I know that's a weird take, but I actually believe there's a potential for that entire thing to backfire. It's a potential, but they'll never forget who left the Senate.

• 50:20Patrick Bet-David?

  This is how it works. In the interim, if I get them for 20 years, that's gonna vote for me, and 40 years, they flip to conservative. In the interim for 20 years, if I can use them to control the Supreme Court, then make Puerto Rico, and what is the other place, into a state where I can DC, DC proper. Puerto Rico into a state, then I can flip. Last night, you know what the guy was talking about? I think we need to eliminate, and you know, Electoral College, and we need to go.

• 50:45Tom Ellsworth?

  First thing he said. Yeah, they always talk about.

• 50:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead. No, what I'm saying to you is they're going to do it. They're going to do it. They're going to do it. So now winners and losers. Biggest winners and losers are what happened. What would you say? I'll come to you first.

• 50:59Speaker 04

  I was gonna say humorously, Joe Rogan might be one of the biggest losers now that he's seeing basically California come to Texas and turn Texas into what it's from California. And I hope he walks that. I mean, you know, and I'm not a dig, but like, you know, he, he changes sort of the support for Trump and doesn't appreciate that. Austin will become the next Los Angeles, you know, in within less than a generation. Funny thing about Florida.

• 51:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Have you been there recently?

• 51:22Speaker 04

  I've been to Austin a couple during the Alex Jones trial. I went to a Walmart. I saw someone taking a dump in the stall. I'm there with my kid. I'm like, we're not getting food here. We're getting the hell out of here. We're going to go find a store out in the outskirts where people are, I say, armed and protecting us. But no, it was.

• 51:37Tom Ellsworth?

  The other Walmart.

• 51:38Speaker 04

  It was, it was, Austin was terrible. It was, it was actually worse than I could have possibly dreamed. Some beautiful spots and then we get into the boroughs and it's beautiful. But jokes aside, and Hope Rogan, you know, is paying attention. Uh, the biggest winner I think is DeSantis. Second biggest winner is I think JD Vance. Uh, JD. I've, I've always liked JD and I've always liked DeSantis, but I supported Trump over DeSantis. And you know, if it's JD versus DeSantis in 2028 for the primaries. Well, it'll be a good choice. Uh, but obviously when, when, when, uh, DeSantis comes out and reminds everybody why he was a viable candidate in 2024, because he was the best governor of Florida. Uh, that's, that speech that he gave. It is the slap in the face to the GOP and the Trump administration that they need to say. You can't ignore the devastating results and you have to.

• 52:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Winners and losers.

• 52:24Speaker 03

  Um, well.

• 52:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Make your list, be ready.

• 52:27Speaker 03

  Even though it was a win, even though it was a win, DeSantis, to me, that, that cockiness from a 48.7 to a 50%. How like he's making it seem like, like in horse racing, like 10 horse lengths. That was by a nose. So to have that. Attitude, you know, you feel me? Like, hey, we did it. You almost lost, but Moody won by, by 1.2. Like, what are you, what's all this cockiness? We almost lost Florida as well. People were, were panicking. And I think one of the biggest. Pat, losers for Republicans was in Alabama. Alabama, the most conservative place. They voted in a Democrat transgender who beat the incumbent Republican. And it was, um.

• 53:11Speaker 03

  Democrat Allison Montgomery beat Philip Rigsby. You want to talk about a freaking loss embarrassing? To me, that was it. That right there showed you how bad the Republicans lost.

• 53:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Biggest winners and I got a bunch of them, but I want to know.

• 53:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Elon Musk is a big loser.

• 53:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Massive.

• 53:28Tom Ellsworth?

  He's a big, big one. Uh, I think oddly enough, this is going to re vindicate the guys like Tucker Carlson. He's come out and been posting about. I've seen some, uh. Some videos of, uh, people talking about how he was right all along. This is going to empower his kind of branch of the new right. I do think the extremist leftist, I think this is a death blow to any centrist leftist. And I've been seeing a lot of rhetoric, again, just anecdotally on Instagram. You're going to see, uh, so like guys like the Abdul El Sayid. It's this video I'm posting here. Uh, that I sent. This guy's very, very extreme, but again, I saw video after video after video like this. These are getting hundreds of thousands of likes. Uh, if you want to watch it, he just.

• 54:06Patrick Bet-David?

  What does he say?

• 54:06Tom Ellsworth?

  He's just a total lunatic talking about you centrist, uh, liberals are done. MAGA is dead. Now we're coming for you.

• 54:12Speaker 01

  For the Democrats who just took power. You're going to meet our fucking demands or we're going to ruin your entire life. We're going to ruin your fucking political careers. MAGA no longer exists. MAGA is no longer a fucking threat. What is a threat are you centrist corporate Democrat shills with your ironclad support of Israel, with your ironclad support of capitalism. With your ironclad support of imperialism and your belief that the US military can do no wrong. There's a couple of things you're going to have to do. Otherwise. All of the aggression you have seen for the past fucking six years poured at MAGA, it's all coming to you. You're going to advocate to decouple us from Israel entirely. We shouldn't be sending them a single fucking dollar.

• 54:52Speaker 01

  Let that disgusting, repugnant, genocidal nation collapse. I don't give a fuck what happens to a single person there. Let them deal with it. Their fucking problem. You're going to stop sending our money over there. You're going to give us universal healthcare. You're going to surrender to the Iranians. Do you understand that? If you're not doing, we're going to give you congressional approval.

• 55:11Speaker 04

  I think that's enough, but the whole point, the whole point is you may find that extreme. You'd be surprised how many people on the left are within the spectrum. Of believing this rhetoric is okay. That's the, that's the problem I'm discussing.

• 55:23Speaker 03

  The guy, the guy that was going after Elon, but I know we'll get into that.

• 55:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Biggest winners and losers, Tom. Biggest winners and losers.

• 55:28Tom Ellsworth?

  So I'm going to go to business since everybody's going there, but, um, and that last clip, why Rachel Maddow looks different with the good teeth. So winners, anything that's rate sensitive, uh, you've got like healthcare, uh, home builders, clean energy, things like that. I think are going to be winners in the near term. Losers is going to be AI infrastructure and defense. It's about to, you're going to see it on the stock market. It's going to move a little bit. I think the consumer will be a near term winner. And I think next year, uh, there will be a little bit of win. Cause there's one, there's one person that seems to get it. And I saw an interview with him and that's Jeffries. I'm not a fan of Jeffries, but Jeffries openly said, if we go on a rampage these next two years.

• 56:11Tom Ellsworth?

  And we don't truly move economic things and take credit for it, we're in trouble. So Hakeem Jeffries, in that moment, I was like, dude, you're absolutely right. But I don't think, I think dude, he's going to be fighting people like this guy that was just screaming.

• 56:25Speaker 04

  Hundred percent.

• 56:26Tom Ellsworth?

  To get there. And I, and I think that basically this guy would be screaming and saying, you're one of them, Hakeem. So that, that's where I think that. So I think the consumer will be a near term winner. Uh, we've already talked about Musk and others that I think are losers at the moment. But I also, I'll tell you, you know what? It's going to sound weird, but this is my take, Pat. I think that ultimately we're going to look back and I'm not spinning here. Every time there's a, a moment like this that happens, the true believers, there's that, there's a gold gets purified in the fire. And I think ultimately this is going to rise up people who are true believers.

• 57:05Patrick Bet-David?

  True, is that how you ended it?

• 57:07Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I think so. I think, I think this is going to bring up.

• 57:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I like that. I will see. So for me, here's what I got. Biggest winners and losers. Musk, he even joked about it. He put $458 million. And didn't move in nothing. So that means PACs, the power of just going and winning elections with money, nothing. It's not going to happen. Trump's endorsement, big loser. Just because you're endorsing doesn't mean it carries the weight that it did a few years ago.

• 57:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:31Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a big loser. Next. Putting just any candidate like a, you know, Paxton. First time I spoke to him, I'm like, I was waiting for me to sell issues. Zero issues sold whatsoever at all. There was no issues being sold. Like this is not a marketable guy. So these, these vanilla characters that came up to run just because they're an AG or just because they've been around, big losers, the vanilla guys. APAC, big loser. Israel, big loser. This was not a election that was good for Israel. They're a big loser. They got their asses handed to them. Next winners. DeSantis winner. Muslims, big winners.

• 58:08Speaker 04

  Huge.

• 58:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Big winners. Record breaking first Senator ever as a Muslim to go out there and win. And by the way, when they go in, they stick. They have a high retention. Once they get a job, they don't leave. These are not people. Once they get in, they leave. They stay in their positions. For a while. Kalshi, big winner. Zelensky, big winner. IRGC, big winner. Chaminet tweets this out. If you want to pull up the Chaminet tweet. Here's what Chaminet had to say. In a tweet about America, if you guys want to pull it up, I send it to you. I know you have it. Uh, right here. It says, today, the declining power and hegemony of the United States has suffered an irreversible fall in both dimensions of its power. It's hard military power and it's international soft power. Now, whether he tweeted this or not, nobody knows.

• 58:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Some people are saying his handler tweeted it. Some people are saying other people tweet. Well, no one's even seen him. Even the president of Iran hasn't even seen, he says he did. But he was taken to a place, but you know, IRGC won. This was a very big opportunity for them to kind of be able to celebrate and say, hey. Look at this. So now what Trump's going to do the next 60 day, nobody knows. I can tell you what Scott Galloway said. Here's what Scott Galloway said about Trump. Now Scott Galloway said about Elon Musk. And a lot of people are saying, wait a minute, this is a fairly a reasonable guy, successful, made money, got a good podcast. We've had him on. Look what he said about Elon Musk just yesterday. We have begun believing through this ridiculous, unhealthy and dangerous idolatry of innovators.

• 59:36Patrick Bet-David?

  That they get to live by an entirely different standard. Elon Musk is.

• 59:40Speaker 03

  A traitor to the West. We lined up the Rosenbergs against a wall. This is a traitor to the West and he should be held to the same standards as every other traitor.

• 59:52Speaker 04

  Getting a room full of applause. This is the new rhetoric of the left.

• 59:56Patrick Bet-David?

  So what did he just say?

• 59:57Speaker 03

  He just said he's a traitor and we should do with him what we did to the Rosenbergs.

• 1:00:03Speaker 04

  They want Nuremberg.

• 1:00:04Speaker 03

  Put him against the wall. He said, Pat, let's not mince words. He said, innuendo, whatever you want to call it. Put them on a wall, put him on a wall and basically treat him the same way that he did Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. And assess and shoot them dead.

• 1:00:18Speaker 04

  Can you appreciate the irony that he talks about idolatry of innovators while he's sitting on a white leather couch in front of a crowd? In a fancy setting like he is, but he'll end up on the wall as well because the revolution devours its own and he's no safer than the people he's calling for.

• 1:00:32Speaker 03

  We're entering an age of extremism. By the way, and mind you, they shot Trump in the freaking head. They murdered Charlie in front of everybody. And this is, I'm telling you guys, this is the type of rhetoric and what these really stupid, smart people don't understand. It takes one idiot, Viva, one idiot to hear that and be like, you know what? He's right. And we have hundreds of millions of them here.

• 1:00:54Speaker 04

  Well, it's the Bill Burr, like, you know, ratifying the Luigi Mangione, not understanding. He will be the millionaire billionaire that's the enemy of the people. If I may just go back to the Homeni's tweet and not to disagree with Homeni. But there's a difference between a collapse and a contraction. And some people might say, you know, the Roman Empire might've done some good to contract before it collapsed because you spread yourself too thin. And that's how you lead to the collapse of the Roman Empire. A contraction of the US, put it in quotes, empire, might not be a bad thing. It might actually be describing in a different way what America first is saying. Don't waste this money, this time overseas in Middle Eastern countries with bases across the world. Contract a little bit, focus on home, set up good defenses, protect your own first and.

• 1:01:37Speaker 03

  But do you really think that's what it all boils down to an isolationist argument? Because for me, listen here, I would love to have an honest conversation if I could theoretically with every American person and say, what would it take? What would it take? Would it take us pulling out of Iran completely? Would it take us giving no more money at all to Israel? For some reason, no one cares about the billions we give to Jordan and Egypt. Because if that's what it takes, hallelujah, I think that's an easy fix. Let's decouple, let's do everything you're saying. It's not going to solve the problems within the country. I don't believe it will.

• 1:02:03Speaker 04

  I, well, I think you could, you could err on the side of trying. It's like RFK Junior said when he ran, when he initially ran, you know, a nation at war abroad will never be at peace at home. And it makes total sense. The issue is, what's the solution? I mean, what's your goal?

• 1:02:16Speaker 03

  Imagine, okay, so let's just say theoretically, imagine we do that and imagine there is a nuclear Iran, a nuclear Saudi Arabia.

• 1:02:22Speaker 04

  There's a nuclear North, there's a nuclear North Korea.

• 1:02:25Speaker 03

  Fundamentally different. As someone whose own family escaped Iraq, there is a fundamental difference between a country that has self-preservation, which has a desire for expansion versus one that is based on religious extremist ideology. They are fundamentally, you have Ayatollahs going up and praying to the 12th Imam for the upcoming Armageddon. And this is how they want to achieve it. It is a different, I'm not scared of North Korea as much as I am.

• 1:02:47Speaker 04

  Are you scared of Pakistan and India having nuclear bombs? Why haven't they done that?

• 1:02:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Because. That's a stalemate. Wait, wait, wait. Pakistan and India aren't doing things like in the rest of the world. They have a stalemate together, which has basically kept it that way. I mean, that's the whole, that's the whole foundation of what nuclear proliferation stopped was mutually.

• 1:03:09Speaker 03

  A short destruction.

• 1:03:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Mutually short destruction caused people to say, I got six, you got seven, but we're both dead. And so all of a sudden, everybody kind of backs up a little bit and is calm. That's India, Pakistan. So Viva, on that one, and I know you know this, you're more versed on this.

• 1:03:22Speaker 03

  No, but he's asking, why would that not happen between Israel and Iran? Well, what I'm saying is it would create a explosion of every country for that desire for self-preservation to develop nuclear weapons. Do you want a nuclear Saudi Arabia with, do you want the potential of Wahhabi Sunni Salafis having nuclear weapons?

• 1:03:39Speaker 04

  No, but I guess the first question is, this was not an argument for a nuclear Iran. This was an argument for gauging and reassessing foreign policy to achieve certain results. And then the question's going to be also, is what was done now going to deter Iran and a future other country from having nuclear aspirations or enhance it?

• 1:03:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask this question for you. Let me ask this. So we're giving 3.8 billion hours to Israel every year. That's the number that we keep hearing about, right? Okay. And, and we spend, I don't know, billion hours on snap, a trillion hours on SNAP, on entitlement, food entitlement, all these other things that we give away. Well, let's just say we don't do anything with Israel. We leave them alone. Okay. And let's say we get Iran to have a nuclear weapon. Let's leave them alone. What do you think long-term happens between Iran and Israel? We don't get involved at all between those two. What do you think happens long-term?

• 1:04:21Speaker 04

  I mean, it's, it's impossible to project, it's impossible to project.

• 1:04:24Patrick Bet-David?

  That's, that's your job though. You're supposed to do that. You make, the decisions you make is based on what you think is going to happen long-term. You buy life insurance because God forbid if something happens to you, your family has to pay probate taxes and have different issues that's going to come up. And so you buy a life, you can't say, it's impossible for me to say what age I'm going to die. So I'm not going to buy a life insurance policy. No, you're a leader. It looks like if it was you, you're thinking if the 3.8 billion stops, everything in America is going to be fixed.

• 1:04:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, no, no. First of all, I mean, the 3.8 billion in Israel and we're all concede that the point is there's an overemphasis on Israel is you had 400 billion to Ukraine. The issue is that you had people objecting to the aid to Ukraine as well.

• 1:05:03Patrick Bet-David?

  The criticism Israel, Ukraine gets is the same as the Israel.

• 1:05:06Speaker 04

  No, oddly.

• 1:05:08Patrick Bet-David?

  There is no way we sit there and criticize Ukraine at the same level that Israel gets.

• 1:05:12Speaker 04

  Well, no, I might, I might disagree with that just temporally. Two years ago, the criticism of Zelensky, the criticism of the aid to Ukraine, the criticism of neglecting domestic issues to fund a proxy war against Russia.

• 1:05:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Jamie Dimon, all these guys, where the Ukraine and the US flag and they give money gladly to that area, left and the right.

• 1:05:27Speaker 04

  No, well, but I think left and the right.

• 1:05:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back and ask the question. You're the president. If you're the president, funding to Israel stops overnight. Yes, is that fair to say?

• 1:05:36Speaker 04

  Yes, now, because now the blowback is so severe because of what's been done over the last couple of years.

• 1:05:41Speaker 03

  Fair argument. That is a fair argument for me.

• 1:05:44Speaker 04

  Sorry. Now it's like the overreaction is like, okay, well, had we gauged things differently? Had Marco Rubio not come out and said, yeah, we struck Iran because Israel was going to do it anyhow. You don't put yourself in a position where you have to take a radical redirection to say, to appease the people have now had enough of this ostensible foreign nation dictating domestic policy.

• 1:06:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Asking a very valid question. He's asking, everything you want, if it stops, does it stop the problems in America?

• 1:06:06Speaker 04

  Well, oddly enough, I don't, I think cutting 4 billion in foreign, in military aid to Israel, I don't think it'll change a thing because they'll figure out a way to either get the arms that they need from another nation or get the, get the aid from another nation, or they'll do it themselves.

• 1:06:19Patrick Bet-David?

  But so, so then that doesn't solve the problem of the frustration towards Israel, right? There's certain people that.

• 1:06:24Speaker 04

  It's, it's, it's different frustrations and it's ones that, there's a difference between aid to a foreign country and what is perceptibly that foreign country's influence in your national and international policy. It was actually the issue.

• 1:06:36Speaker 03

  Why do we not hear about Qatar foreign influence in the United States?

• 1:06:38Speaker 04

  I think we do. I don't think anybody does.

• 1:06:39Speaker 03

  You think they're on, first of all, Qatar outspends Israel in infrastructure and education.

• 1:06:44Speaker 04

  I agree.

• 1:06:44Speaker 03

  Across the board. And proportionally, how much do we hear about Qatar versus Israel?

• 1:06:48Speaker 04

  Well, it depends who you listen to. I mean, I, I hear a fair bit of both and I do say you can go dollar for dollar.

• 1:06:53Tom Ellsworth?

  You've got your ear down on that stuff. I think he makes a really good point. We don't hear about Qatar. And if you took a chart up here about where Qatar is investing in American colleges and things, think tanks and stuff, it's significant. But it's not out there in the popular view. You and I are down in the weeds of a lot of things. We have our fingers on a lot of pulses, but to your point, you don't hear about Qatar.

• 1:07:11Speaker 04

  Well, okay, perhaps playing devil's advocate, one of the reasons is you don't see Qatari officials giving speeches in front of Congress.

• 1:07:18Speaker 03

  You, you do see them buying the.

• 1:07:19Speaker 04

  No, but hold on, you don't see Qatari leaders in, in Congress giving speeches to our government.

• 1:07:25Speaker 03

  Oh, sure, that's a.

• 1:07:26Speaker 04

  That, but that alone, so whether or not the dollar figure is 10 to one versus Qatar.

• 1:07:30Speaker 03

  Again, they buy the president. 350 million dollar new Air Force One plane. They help fund military bases to train their pilots in the United States. They put billions of dollars.

• 1:07:42Speaker 04

  We all agree with that, but optically, if you were to see.

• 1:07:45Speaker 03

  I agree with you, the optics, I a hundred percent agree with you. And I'm at the point, I really mean this, where I think it is best for the country to take a step away from Israel. I don't think it'll change anything, but I think there, as I said earlier, is a mass psychosis where every single grievance is now being blamed on. So let's take it out of the, out of the equation.

• 1:08:02Speaker 04

  But you say mass psychosis to undermine the legitimate criticism and not have to. But hold on, bottom line, if you were to ever see a Qatari official go in front of Congress and basically give a speech to Congress, you would expect outrage and it would come from everyone and it would be universal.

• 1:08:16Speaker 03

  I actually don't think so. I think the fundamental relationship with Israel and, and if you look at the, the nature of the relationship, it is not so controversial that they've done that. Uh, and again, I think there is legitimate criticism of Israel that can be made. When that criticism becomes a grievance point to be the solution to all our problems. And we stop people from voting because that's all they want to talk about. And a vote becomes an Israel first vote, then that becomes the doorway, the Trojan horse for what we see today. So again, I am okay with no long, I was very happy when I saw that Trump put that out, that said, I'm not going to fund Israel anymore. I think that rhetoric has to push back. It's not going to even appease these people. That's my, nothing will appease them. I, I think.

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• 1:11:20Speaker 04

  It's the consequence of-

• 1:11:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, what do you think? What do you think?

• 1:11:24Speaker 03

  I mean, I'm just, I said it on the midterms, I'm just tired, I'm sick and tired of every time our politics comes up, I have to hear Israel and Bibi Netanyahu. I'm not saying about just, that's how much there, it's just influence and I'm just over it. I'm tired of it. Are they in Israel talking about-

• 1:11:40Patrick Bet-David?

  What does that mean though?

• 1:11:41Speaker 03

  I'm just tired of hearing it, Pat. I want, are they in Israel talking about us like that?

• 1:11:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Just so you know, it's not going away. Hundred percent. You know why it's not going away? Because-

• 1:11:47Speaker 03

  My opinion is, I'm just tired.

• 1:11:49Patrick Bet-David?

  So let me ask you, play the devil, think, think like the enemy. Go think like the enemy. If you were the enemy and you were thinking about how to fracture the Republican Party that dominated 2024, everybody thought it was gonna be a 20-year run, oh my God, Trump this many years, then it's gonna be JD, then it's gonna be Rubio for 20 years, remember that whole thing that came-

• 1:12:10Speaker 04

  Of course, yep.

• 1:12:11Patrick Bet-David?

  And they saw that opera, if you were gonna find a way to destroy the Republican Party, think like the devil, how would you do it?

• 1:12:17Speaker 03

  That would be, I mean, that would be one of them.

• 1:12:18Patrick Bet-David?

  What would be one of them?

• 1:12:19Speaker 03

  That would be one of them, was the whole Israel-

• 1:12:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Think like, if you're Islamist, Qatar, money, how do you divide America? How would you do it?

• 1:12:25Speaker 03

  I mean, Islamist and like that, you, you would just constantly bring up our relationship with them and say, look at what they're doing and look at what they're doing, and then just harp on that, cause that's all, all the, all the El-Sayyads and all them, that's their main-

• 1:12:38Speaker 04

  Mad social media campaigns when there's, when there's Islamism in Italy and in France, oh, don't look at that, it's secret, Charlie Kirk assassinated by radical left, don't look at that, it's secretly Israel. You have Abdul El-Sayed supporting the Muslim brother, uh, the family, not him, supporting the Muslim brotherhood-

• 1:12:51Speaker 03

  Family, oh yeah, the whole family-

• 1:12:52Speaker 04

  And then what do they put out?

• 1:12:53Speaker 03

  But he's bringing up Israel.

• 1:12:54Speaker 04

  Campaign comes up saying you can't pay for your groceries because of Israel, it's a dis- But hold on, hold on a second, who did, if, to the extent that somebody did not look into the assassination of Charlie Kirk, who didn't look into it? What do you mean, who did? Well, you say, don't look into it, it's Israel, I mean, there's only a small idiotic faction saying it's Israel, and, and I don't place much value in their opinions, but- Millions of people watch Candace Owens, and you can see that that is, that you may say they're inconsequential, but when they're psy-op to that extent, they do vote. But, but then, I mean, then there's gonna be a bit of blame here, who then didn't go into a sufficient investigation into the Charlie Kirk to satisfy or quell those conspiracy theories? What, are you talking about the, the investigations were not adequate, in your opinion, into Charlie Kirk? A thousand percent, they were not adequate. So we fundamentally disagree.

• 1:13:37Speaker 04

  Well, but this, you go, go back to Patrick's question about, you know, what would you do if you were the devil, to sabotage Trump? You, you'd trick him into going to war with Iran, period. And now, whether or not that's Democrats, whether or not that's a deep state apparatus that Trump didn't, you know, drain from the swamp that duped him into going to war with Iran, knowing, whether or not that's the singular issue, it's certainly the one that leads into all the other ones. We agree there, it's broke the straw, the- No, and it leads into everything else, they're gonna say, why'd you go to war with Israel, Iran? Well, it's for Israel, it might not have been for Israel, it might have been a sincerely held belief, but if you wanted to end what would have been 20 years of Republican fixing this country, trick Trump into going to war with Iran, and everyone knows the conspiracy theories and legitimate theories that are gonna fall from there. Do you think Americans would be more forgiving of Trump if they truly believed

• 1:14:21Speaker 04

  he went into Iran because he truly fundamentally believed that they are a nuclear threat and a definitive threat to the United States? Or do you think the connection to Israel, and do you think the, like I said previously, you're a witch, you're Israel first? Same, it's the automatic solution, and there is no, no thing you can say back that can disprove it. There is no level- It is, it's an unfalsifiable theory, a lot of these things are, and it's also the absence of the evidence is the evidence which makes them unfalsifiable, but if Trump legitimately believed it, I think a lot of us did sincerely believe that with Operation Midnight Hammer, and then we're told it's obliterated, and then- I agree, fully messaging terrible. Six months later, you have, you, six months later, you're going back in, and you have Marco Rubio apparently saying the quiet part out loud, and then you wanna blame people for thinking Israel's involved in it? I'm not-

• 1:15:05Speaker 04

  It's not a witch hunt, it's not a, it's not psychosis anymore, he's stepping on the water. Obviously, Israel has its interests, that's why I'm saying it's good if we decouple for a while. It has its interests, it has its influence, as did Zelensky and as did Ukraine, and people were saying enough is enough, 400 billion to a foreign country for a proxy war is enough. As does Qatar, as do numerous other countries. I, I agree. In a tremendous way, on a much deeper level, by the way, if you look at the amount of- But, but people are vocally critical of the activism, the leftist Marxist activism on campuses as well, so it's not like nobody's complaining about that either. Sure, you see people actively- So I can, I can, I'm a good, I can complain about five things at one time. It's all proportion, you can, and I, yeah, I agree with you there, nothing is mutually exclusive.

• 1:15:42Patrick Bet-David?

  A couple, couple things to get into right now, is Scott, Scott Jennings comes up after Vivek, and, you know, we talk about Scott Galloway going after Elon, saying, hey, you know, you gotta do to him what we did with others, here's what Scott Jennings had to say about Vivek after midterms, watch this.

• 1:15:59Speaker 06

  And, and there's a few candidates out there that should be singled out, Paxton was a huge mistake, Vivek Ramaswamy, so twice now, he seems to have misunderstood the object of politics, which is to make people to like you and not be a human repellent. And that is what he has done in Ohio, and I think it hurt-

• 1:16:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You didn't see this?

• 1:16:17Speaker 06

  Everybody else over there, I think it hurt John Huestead. There's something to be said for just trying to be basically nice, and basically approachable, and that ad that they ran is gonna go down as one of the dumbest strategic blunders at a time when you could ill afford it because of the environment.

• 1:16:34Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about that?

• 1:16:35Speaker 04

  When I saw the ad, it, you know, it rubbed me very much the wrong way, I, I somewhat agree with. You think it's just the ad? No. No, he said a couple of stupid things, but the ad didn't help, and then the doubling down doesn't help, I mean, it's, it's an amazing thing, people in politics are afraid to apologize because they think it's gonna be used against them, apologizing, admitting errors, all you would have had to say, by the way, is, oh my goodness, I didn't know the extent of the, of the abuse with, with mother, I would never have done this otherwise. That would have been the easiest fix. We screwed up, it was a disgusting ad, we didn't know what it actually was.

• 1:17:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what do you think?

• 1:17:05Tom Ellsworth?

  It is better to be thought of as an elitist technologist than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. That's exactly what Vivek did, and I like Vivek, I, I'll, I'll tell people here, you know, I'm, I'm not, I'm not a homer for Vivek, you know, in the sports side, I respect him, I respect what he's accomplished, he's very gracious to my daughter when he was here, gave her a lot of encouragement, but in terms of running a campaign, that's different, and whatever his advice was, and whatever the decision, well, those were ill-advised statements that, that caused people to frame you as a, hey, you're this elitist snob that came in here, and then what happened was, that's the framing they were throwing at him, oh,

• 1:17:50Tom Ellsworth?

  you're a, you're a left coast Republican technologist, you don't understand the common man in manufacturing here in Ohio, and that, that framing was not, not correct and not fair, I think he was broader than that, but then he makes two comments early, Pat, that gets the ball rolling, and then another comment late, and it's just like, wait a minute, yeah, that was just, and then, I'm, I'm leaving out the ad, I'm just talking about him responding to things, and then when you put the ad on top of it, it's like, wow, that's a poorly run campaign, and if you have a poor quarter as a CEO, the stock is down, and you get an article criticizing you in the Wall Street Journal, and he's getting criticism from people like Scott Jennings that understand the political arena.

• 1:18:34Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I hate the fact that this ended this way, I really hate the fact.

• 1:18:37Speaker 03

  Vinny. And, and because, we had, how many times you have him on the podcast, and we've been around Vivek, awesome, awesome human being, I, I respect the hell out of him, but it was December 26th, the day after Christmas, 2024, when he said, and I quote, "Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long," okay? And he also argued that American culture celebrates the prom queen over the math Olympia champion, you know, the jock over the valedictorian, and he made the comments, and he defended tech companies hiring H1B foreign workers. I'm sorry, that's taking a gun and shooting yourself right in the foot two years ago, and we knew it, and we kinda called it, it's like, you can't, Viva, this is the United States of Amer- we're brown, we're brown, we're brown, we're brown, you don't be, you

• 1:19:20Speaker 03

  can't be brown and say stuff like that to the Americans and, you feel me, Tom? Cause you know what they're gonna do, they're gonna be like, oh, that's the guy? You want my vote? Nope.

• 1:19:31Tom Ellsworth?

  And you know that's only, that is only two inches away from the right statement. For too long, we have been looking at other people and looking at ways and praising folks, we should be praising our kids and giving them the educational opportunities, these should be our kids that are starting at these tech companies, we should be doing, it's just two inches away, and he didn't, and it-

• 1:19:52Speaker 04

  No, I, I remember exactly where I was during that H1B debate, over Christmas, I was at my parents' cottage, and I remember Elon Musk was getting thrown into it as well, and you should learn from those mistakes- Yes. Not repeat them and double down. When it came to the ad, just like one last thing, having a basic sense of morality also doesn't hurt, when Mary Trump came out and, you know, railed against Trump, it was wrong, it was disgusting. When RFK Junior's family came out and disavowed him, it's disgusting, you don't, even in politics, you don't pit family against family- Yeah. And if you just err on the side of morality, you didn't need that ad to win, and all it could do was hurt, and then you didn't apologize afterwards-

• 1:20:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You think he could have won without the ad?

• 1:20:26Speaker 04

  Oh yeah.

• 1:20:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Cause it got a lot closer, you think without the ad, he would have won?

• 1:20:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, because if you look at the result, and we covered it on the, the end of the night, remember we went to it, with all these big victories that were happening, Ossoff, holy crap, look at the size of that victory, we went to Ohio, and I said, look how close this is, this is closer than they thought it was gonna be.

• 1:20:46Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:20:47Tom Ellsworth?

  It, it, look, look at this, 400,000, actually, 370,000 votes, as was, the end came in, this should have been, by the tonality and everything you saw, a 12-point victory, it wasn't. This, he would have won this had it been run differently.

• 1:21:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Without the ad?

• 1:21:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not, I'd say, without the ad, and with a message of, you know, enable the American citizen, the American student with education, and the things that are here, enable them, and if he had done that, and the ad-

• 1:21:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think he's going away?

• 1:21:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think he's going away, but he's gotta pick his shot where he's gonna go next.

• 1:21:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, and I think he has to work on his messaging, I think the entire Republican Party has to work on their messaging, they became complacent. Boy, they thought, they thought a Trump endorsement would, would win. How? How? Because, because, here's why, because, because Trump thought that a Trump endorsement-

• 1:21:37Patrick Bet-David?

  In a closed Republican primary would carry the same weight that it did in an open in an open election. It was it was bad strategy again by the people keeping him in a silo. And all they had to do with Amy Acton, remind everyone what a COVID tyrant she was, that she was a celebrity in her own mind. Holy crap, I went back and pulled up clips from her during COVID.

• 1:21:55Speaker 04

  That would have been the play.

• 1:21:56Patrick Bet-David?

  She was a nutbag.

• 1:21:57Speaker 04

  That would have been the play.

• 1:21:59Speaker 03

  I saw that would have been the play.

• 1:22:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, well, I think a part of the problem when you're very, very smart and intellectual. Scott was a valid dictator. He's a brilliant guy. He's more smart than 99% of the opponents that he's going up against. But sometimes your strength could be a double edged sword. If you don't know how to speak to people, or you don't make them feel dumb. Sometimes you can be extremely smart and talk down at people and you don't know you're doing that, where you think people are beneath you. Yep. And at the beginning, he was able to hide that a little bit, but eventually it became too much like, listen, do you know how smart I am? And it came a little too much like that. And you know who else has a little bit of that? Newsom has a little bit.

• 1:22:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah, big time. Where it's a little bit condescending. Yeah. And and the condescending score kept getting higher and higher and higher. And you have you have to be able to hide that a little bit if it's natural. Like for some people, you got to hide it. And you have to be able to drop the message in a way where the average person gets it, not above their heads. Couple guys don't know how to do that properly. And alas, but not least, quite frankly, you know, likability is super important. Jennings is right. Likability is super, super important when you're running for office. And he rubbed some people the wrong way. Got a couple of stories that just came out. Tom, did you just see what the stock market just did? NASDAQ? NASDAQ just dropped three and a half percent. I don't know if you saw that or not.

• 1:23:28Patrick Bet-David?

  NASDAQ literally just dropped three and a half percent. I think it's now dropped maybe even four, 4.2%. So Dow was up one and Dow was down one and a half. NASDAQ is down 4.2%.

• 1:23:40Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's tech driving everything down.

• 1:23:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Tech driving it.

• 1:23:42Tom Ellsworth?

  There's neutral, neutral center market, tech way down.

• 1:23:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, major sell off. You have from the reports that came up last week with Intel plunge approximately 29% after disappointing investors with its outlook. Reddit fell roughly 29.2% following concerns about their search traffic and growth. And Amazon also declined amid concerns about spending and free cash flow. But as of right now, the Dow was down 4.25 and NASDAQ, I'm sorry, NASDAQ is down 4.25. Dow was down 1.51 and the S and P is down 2.71. Why do you think? Uh, I could not venture a guess into that. I just got distracted because Russell Brand just got convicted of rape in the.

• 1:24:24Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 1:24:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 1:24:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Russell Brand got convicted of rape?

• 1:24:27Speaker 03

  Russell Brand was found guilty. I'll, I'll read it.

• 1:24:29Tom Ellsworth?

  He's been taken into custody.

• 1:24:30Speaker 03

  Russell Brand was found guilty in London of one count of rape and three counts of sexual assault involving four women. The offenses occurred between 2004 and 2009. He was acquitted of two other rape charges and one attempted indecent assault charge. Brand denied all charges and maintained that he never engaged in conceptual, non-consequential sexual activity. He was taken into custody immediately after the verdict. And the judge says, this is the judge said this, Pat. He faces a significant prison sentence and the sentencing segues for Monday, November 9. Like, it's not good.

• 1:25:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Or counts.

• 1:25:02Patrick Bet-David?

  The British courts.

• 1:25:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Or counts.

• 1:25:03Patrick Bet-David?

  That's. Wow. Was just dropped right now?

• 1:25:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:25:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I didn't mean to distract. I just saw it on the side banner when you were looking at the market.

• 1:25:10Tom Ellsworth?

  In the US, there's all these sentencing hearings and you can make, you can make a a motion regarding certain things, the sentencing. And the British courts here, you're taken into custody today. He's effectively in prison now. And then he'll be formally in what, four days sentenced? So he's, Russell Brand is incarcerated.

• 1:25:29Patrick Bet-David?

  They're, to the extent they're sentencing people to like 30 months in jail for social media posts.

• 1:25:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, imagine what they're gonna do where it's where it's saying, one, yeah, this is not good.

• 1:25:38Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not, it's, I mean, boy.

• 1:25:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, in the Muslim courts over there, normally he would have been granted the mayorship of Sheppenshire.

• 1:25:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Also, what, just to change the subject back to, Pat, going back to just one thing, IQ in life is very important. I would be curious to know if EQ is just as important, if not more important.

• 1:25:58Speaker 04

  Arguably more important.

• 1:25:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Your emotional quotient in terms of how you deal with people can dictate a lot. Your, your, your intelligence is great, but if nobody listens to you.

• 1:26:05Speaker 04

  In politics.

• 1:26:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I can't, by the way, was it, I didn't see if it was, if it was unanimous, because in the UK, you only need 10 of the 12 jury members. What do you think's gonna happen to him? How long do you think he's gonna be going away? A long effing. You think so? Yeah. I mean, I made the joke, he should have gotten on a plane and moved with his family to Russia with a country with no extradition treaty to the UK. Because it's, it's bad. And I was listening to this, like, the one, I presume it's the one with the anal rape side, started to get graphic, that he was found guilty on. I'll double check later, but the story sounds terrible. I mean, and by his own admissions and his own memoir, the My Bookie Book back in the day, like, I said they were gonna read from it. They read from it to him on the stand.

• 1:26:43Speaker 03

  Oh, it's not, why did he?

• 1:26:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I didn't follow it. He said he basically considered orgasm his, his birthright and that he, you know, he acknowledges sexually exploiting people due to his stardom. That, that does not mean rape in most countries, but the UK is, is not most countries and it's not a normal country at this point. Which book? It was called My Bookie Book. It was basically his memoirs of how he was a sex addict, drug addict and came to Jesus, literally. And, and, you know, then he wrote a book on 12 steps.

• 1:27:10Speaker 03

  And you didn't mention, you saw the clip where he's on a, on an interview or a podcast, maybe Connor, you guys in the back can find it, where he was saying, like, he was in his 30s and he slept with someone that was 16, allegedly.

• 1:27:22Patrick Bet-David?

  That was with Megyn Kelly.

• 1:27:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, with Megyn Kelly, which he said, he's like, well, I didn't, you know, I thought that that was normal. It's like, bro, this is, I'm trying to figure out.

• 1:27:30Speaker 04

  He's actually incriminating himself on camera.

• 1:27:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. His, his, his book was, was all you needed to read to him in cross examination, which they, which I said they do.

• 1:27:37Speaker 04

  Was the legal age of consent where he did it at the time?

• 1:27:39Patrick Bet-David?

  It's 16 in the UK, so it was not illegal, but it's.

• 1:27:41Speaker 04

  So by the way.

• 1:27:42Patrick Bet-David?

  But it's not a good look.

• 1:27:43Speaker 03

  He could say, face several years and to more than 10 years in prison. Rape carries a maximum sentence of life in England.

• 1:27:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And there's four counts, four counts.

• 1:27:51Speaker 03

  Well, one rape and three.

• 1:27:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, really?

• 1:27:54Speaker 03

  One rape, three sexual assaults.

• 1:27:55Patrick Bet-David?

  This is in UK?

• 1:27:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:27:56Patrick Bet-David?

  So what happened to all the Pakistani Muslims?

• 1:27:58Speaker 03

  Exactly what I was gonna ask you.

• 1:27:59Patrick Bet-David?

  50,000.

• 1:28:00Speaker 03

  That, that they kinda like? No. Because that's racist. That's racist.

• 1:28:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:04Speaker 03

  But that he's a white guy and he did it, he's gonna be in there for life.

• 1:28:06Patrick Bet-David?

  He, he should, he should have known better. The other one was, you know.

• 1:28:09Speaker 04

  It's part of the culture.

• 1:28:11Speaker 03

  Hold on, he should hide the Bible, convert to Islam and tell them, hey, you guys are racist for freaking saying that I raped them.

• 1:28:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Change his name to Abdul Muhammad Al.

• 1:28:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, Abdul.

• 1:28:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you guys see that, by the way, when you, when his name, how it changed? I was gonna say, well, there was a clip of him saying, I'm not running to be a Muslim senator. I'm running for senator and happen to be Muslim. And then he gets up there.

• 1:28:29Speaker 03

  Like, now he turned into a whole, now the mask is off.

• 1:28:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Abdul Muhammad.

• 1:28:36Patrick Bet-David?

  There it is, right here.

• 1:28:36Speaker 03

  This is it. This is called, when you let them in, this is it.

• 1:28:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I mean, the joke is, it's, the concept, I think it's tequila, where you're allowed to be deceitful.

• 1:28:44Speaker 03

  Well, this is the mask coming off. Can you play, like, look at this, guys? Look at this. Remember? I don't care about, I'm just trying to be the, the senator. Watch this. Ready? My name. Yeah, there it is. Is Abdul Rahman Muhammad Al. Here we go. There we go, baby.

• 1:29:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to the end, because he goes, in Salah with another, with another.

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• 1:31:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah. He's very. He wants Sharia law. Let's go, baby. You might have noticed I always say Inshallah, or God willing, whenever the outcome of this race was mentioned. But today, tonight, we can turn that Inshallah into a Inshallah? Alhamdulillah. Alhamdulillah, yeah.

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• 1:32:05Patrick Bet-David?

  To highlight, going back to some of your points earlier, like, not a double standard, but people, if someone had gotten up there with Paeus and Akeba and gets up there and says, my name is now Moishe Morachay, and brother, L'Chaim, L'Chaim. You would have, people would be outraged. Yes.

• 1:32:19Speaker 03

  On both sides.

• 1:32:20Patrick Bet-David?

  This is, on both sides, and understandably so. I don't think, I don't think, this is America, and you want to come to a country, you abide by it and live by its own principles and morality. And dual citizens should not be able to run for office. I do think that foreigners who even get naturalized should not be allowed to run for elected office or government. But like, no, this is, this is in your face. Story just dropped right now, breaking news, Marco Rubio is on resignation watch. Sources say he's preparing to quit as Secretary of State to launch a Whoa. 2028 presidential bid, wanting to distance himself from Trump and the Iran war. He's perhaps the leading Republican candidate right now, ahead of J.D. Vance and Ron DeSantis. Vance moved fast after the midterms, publicly blaming the Iran war on the losses.

• 1:33:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Rubio hasn't. Behind the scenes, he's been notably quiet on Iran for months. Up to five cabinet members are reportedly preparing to exit the administration. The 2028 race is already gearing up. This is from an independent source. The independent Mario Nofal just tweeted this, just so you know that.

• 1:33:20Speaker 03

  And so, well, I

• 1:33:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Not a smart move?

• 1:33:23Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:33:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do you think it's not a smart move?

• 1:33:24Speaker 04

  Because I think that on some fundamental level, Americans do appreciate some degree of like, stick it out, have some loyalty and stay active.

• 1:33:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, flip side to that, if he knew it was wrong and stayed silent, he's a coward. What the hell is he gonna do?

• 1:33:39Speaker 04

  It's a bad look that now that there's backlash, all of a sudden you're jumping ship.

• 1:33:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Plus, he was, first of all, whether or not he objected behind closed doors and you have to stick with the administration, no, no, no. His cowardice and his silence led to this problem. He doesn't come out and say, behind closed doors, I was totally against it, and now elected.

• 1:33:54Speaker 03

  Well, you know, you know why he can't say that? Because, bro, they're gonna play the tape that you just talked about where he goes, listen, the reason we struck first is because they were gonna go, so we did it to support our interests. That's, that's ridiculous. But could we really quick go back to El Sayad and showing, like, I'm not, I'm being genuine? I swear to you, when, when they asked him about the tides about his family, I guarantee that if he came out and said, yeah, my family was in it, and you know what? I kind of liked them too, that he still would have won.

• 1:34:19Speaker 04

  100%.

• 1:34:20Speaker 03

  I'm being dead serious. And we talked about this before the podcast, and I, I want your guys' opinion. 60% of Jewish people in Michigan voted for that guy. Please explain, you explained to me that it was the older Jewish people, which I would think they would have more of a history or a mentality of what you're up against. Why, why would 60% of Jewish people vote for Abdul Inshallah?

• 1:34:44Speaker 04

  It's the weirdest phenomenon in the world that Jews consistently vote in. Because, because those Jews have a much higher loyalty to secularism than they do to their religion, or to their other identity.

• 1:34:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I mean, look, this will be mildly politically incorrect, but one of the tropes and stereotypes and explanations as to why Jews were chased out of 138 countries is their progressivism leads to the downfall of those countries. This is progressive, suicidal progressivism.

• 1:35:11Speaker 03

  This is crazy.

• 1:35:12Speaker 04

  That's what I said, secularism. I meant progressivism. It's 100% a trend amongst, especially Ashkenazi Jews.

• 1:35:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, it's, it's, a Gadsad would call it suicidal empathy, but yeah.

• 1:35:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Speaking of things that have just come in, I saw Secretary Duffy, Transportation Secretary Duffy, speaking today on Walk on the Street, and this is all related to what we're talking about here in their term. There have been multiple bomb threats this morning on, at the commercial level with aircraft in Europe. Now, individual bomb threats are not particularly, you know, you know, unusual, and a lot of them get hunted down quickly and found to be baseless. But there's flight diversion, here it is. Flights have been diverting and things going on, and this is what I feared. I feared some sort of a movement to action from sleeper cells. And so I am hoping this isn't happening, but Duffy, running to the microphone today, he is the quiet cabinet member. Secretary of Transportation, what are you doing?

• 1:36:05Tom Ellsworth?

  You're negotiating with the Union of Air Traffic Controllers, and when it snows, you make sure that the US, you know, carriers do certain things to stay on time, all this kind of stuff going on. But he's, you know, running the squawk box this morning, saying, all is well, we're working with our European partners to keep Americans safe in the sky. And so I am, Pat, you and I think in the same thing on stuff like this, saying we were hoping that ugliness doesn't happen. But this is not just bomb threats now, these are flights being diverted and a US Secretary Cabinet Member jumping on the microphone first thing this morning.

• 1:36:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, look, tensions are high, you know, it's a uncertain time, people are, emotions are high. This is an opportunity for people who, you know, want to see US be in shambles. You know, US is the most hated country in the world because US has been winning for a very long time. It's not, it's not easy when that happens. And for now, when they're seeing, hey, look at this opportunity, what just took place, you, you, you gotta keep your eyes on, on a lot of different things, and that's Duffy's job. Duffy wakes up every morning, have to make sure this is what he has to do. So, I don't know about the story of Rubio, how much credibility is behind that one or not. We'll find out what he's gonna do because most people would say the Iran war, Rubio is more pro that than JD.

• 1:37:23Speaker 04

  100%.

• 1:37:24Patrick Bet-David?

  He, you know, one is the non-interventionist, and the other one is the, hey, we gotta get involved and get rid of Iran, you know, get rid of the threat that we have with RSGC. So, I, I don't know if this would be a good look if he did that. I don't think at all would be a good look if he did that because

• 1:37:41Patrick Bet-David?

  if, if it does, if there is a conclusion to Iran, if you know what it's like, it's like when somebody you hire, and, and they got hired to have a project to launch, and let's just say it's a 24-month project to launch, and they quit on month number 18. You're not a finisher of your project. I don't respect that. So to me, it's like, wait, you're leaving on 18 months, you got six months more to finish this project. You quitting now? Yeah. You will never get a positive reference from me on your next job when they call me before you. So pretty much, I'll tell you, don't put us on your resume.

• 1:38:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Right.

• 1:38:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Because I'm gonna tell them, you quit six months before the completion of the job. So, if you have a project that you want to sign to this guy, he will quit the moment somebody offers a better salary to go there. It's a bad look if he leaves. But let's just say the Iran story is done. Good, bad, ugly, I don't care what it is. If it's done, then you're out? Then to me, it's a smoother transition than doing it suddenly in the middle of it. I, I would, I would tend to take this particular story, independent with a grain of salt in any event, because strategically, like you say, it doesn't make sense. Trump could declare victory tomorrow, and then what, this rumor pops up early? I say, you, you leave when it's done or when it's, you know, an unfixable catastrophe? Let's talk about California. So California had a good thing that happened to them and a bad thing that happened to them. Let's do both. Good.

• 1:38:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Prop 40, billionaire tax, 3.4 million people voted for it. Yes, let's have a billionaire tax. 4.2 million people said no, 55%. Prop 42, which is the anti-new tax measure, I was teaching Tom about this last week, is, yes, was 4.138 million, 54%, and a no was 3.481. So the billionaire tax is not gonna be happening in California. But at the same time, when you think about California, what cities do you think about? San Fran, LA. LA had Mayor Bass, and they had Spencer Pratt that was running, and Rahmam was not even a person anybody thought was gonna do anything. Nope. Like, there's no way this girl stands a chance. Well, guess what?

• 1:39:39Patrick Bet-David?

  The most socialist candidate projected to win LA's mayoral race, defeating Karen Bass. Tom, how bad of news is this to LA?

• 1:39:48Tom Ellsworth?

  This is a double trick that turned into a double cross. So, the dirty trick that turned to a double cross. That's what happened. Number one, here comes Spencer Pratt, 200,000 people supporting him. He is sounding rational. He's out there running for mayor. He's talking about the scandals and the lack of follow-up and what was happening, people trying to rebuild their homes after the fires. The fires that happened largely went farther than they should have because of the ineptitude of the, the government, and specifically Karen Bass, where you can't fight a fire from Guyana. So, remember that? She was on that trip. So, he looks like he's there. And so they did exactly what they did in Alaska, but they didn't find another Sullivan.

• 1:40:32Tom Ellsworth?

  They found another person to run. Because here's what was going on in the primary. They saw that were Dems that were no way Jose on Karen Bass. No way. And they're sitting there, wow, we gotta give these people a choice. Because we have some anti-Bass people that could actually cause Spencer Pratt to be one of the top two. Because remember, California, specifically LA, does not have a Democrat and a Republican primary. Everybody can run, and the top three candidates will run in the runoff. So they said, I know what we'll do, rubbing their hands together, like the evil business owner on Simpsons. We'll get Nithya Raman to run.

• 1:41:10Speaker 04

  Burn.

• 1:41:10Tom Ellsworth?

  She'll take, she'll take the votes away from the people that are no Bass, no way because of the fire. It'll take things away from Pratt, and then we'll go into the fall. Nithya will step aside, run an average campaign, and we'll win. Nope. Nithya Raman does better than people think in the primary, gets people behind her, away she goes, and the dirty trick becomes the double cross. She didn't back off, she didn't give it to Karen Bass, and Karen Bass got the pummeling that she should have got in the primary yesterday.

• 1:41:42Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but what, what can she do to make LA now worse? Does she have real direct impact to make the city worse? And if yes, how?

• 1:41:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Absolutely. She's talking about sales tax. She's talking about, hey, we're not gonna do these things with the homeless. Homeless have the right to live somehow. She's talking about tent cities. She's talking about this. You could go down the list of things, and it's like, really? So you want to turn LA into an even worse version of LA? Are you telling me? that and that's exactly what's about to happen remember she came from she came from the city council and she's being replaced on city council by someone that's

• 1:42:21Patrick Bet-David?

  she had the highest no show ratio of of city council meeting she would not show up and she would say well it's because I have a family and I have a kid and I have this says you never show up you have the worst show ratio and she laughed about it she almost admitted to that she's not somebody that shows up so in a way Tom could some people be grateful that she doesn't show up like please take the check don't get nothing done

• 1:42:45Tom Ellsworth?

  I would hope so but we we know that's not gonna happen this they think this is an opportunity here but what let me tell you this is gonna this is gonna backfire LA is gonna get worse the reason Spencer got over 200,000 votes in the primary 200,000 in LA the reason he got that is because people were upset Adam Corolla talks about it so many people talk about it I think this accelerates the shift because there's gotta be a shift in LA I think it accelerates the shift it's not gonna be a big red city but I think it could be more lavender and purple and I think that what we're gonna see here is her thinking it's a mandate for her policies just like the Democrats the Democrats don't understand

• 1:43:29Tom Ellsworth?

  there was no mandate for Democrat policies on election day it was anger about affordability and getting even

• 1:43:38Speaker 04

  1 million percent

• 1:43:39Tom Ellsworth?

  that's what it was and so when they think haha we can do anything it's gonna backfire and I think it's LA is gonna get worse Pat and it's gonna backfire

• 1:43:49Speaker 03

  but you know what it is too and I we've said this in the past Californians like when you're so used to it you fall in love with your abuser it's Stockholm

• 1:43:58Speaker 04

  yeah 100%

• 1:43:58Speaker 03

  bro like even if you're

• 1:43:59Tom Ellsworth?

  frog boiled in a pot

• 1:44:01Speaker 03

  yeah they're like hey guys I have my cousin my cousin's probably watching this right now my family my brother my cousin Mike they're like bro they're going insane because they're like how are you guys not seeing like what they have done what they've promised what's going on from from from Newsom to all these people and they still still are that loyal like like say what you want bro oh my god

• 1:44:23Speaker 04

  oh yeah

• 1:44:23Speaker 03

  these people do not want change they want the abuse and they want it to keep going

• 1:44:28Speaker 04

  or they want it to get worse

• 1:44:30Speaker 03

  they want yeah like torture like

• 1:44:32Speaker 04

  she went from crying concession speech during the jungle primaries to now the way my goodness it's funny how these things happen there she is look at look at the wrinkles in her forehead

• 1:44:41Patrick Bet-David?

  it's really interesting how

• 1:44:44Tom Ellsworth?

  there's botox in Beverly Hills for that I hope you know that everything every person in this room is fighting for in this campaign has been about building a city that's worthy of you and every child in the city

• 1:45:01Speaker 03

  so wait she conceded and she lost

• 1:45:04Patrick Bet-David?

  she no she she didn't really concede she said you know we fought a good campaign uh how much worse can it get well during the Palisades fire you find out that the LA fire department donated some of its surplus material to Ukraine in 2022

• 1:45:17Speaker 04

  yes that was

• 1:45:18Patrick Bet-David?

  so they were short when the

• 1:45:20Speaker 04

  despite all that there's still no accountability

• 1:45:21Patrick Bet-David?

  fairness however I don't think the mayor had an active role in that but I'll still blame it on the mayor

• 1:45:25Speaker 04

  it could get worse Democrats can do anything anything we don't play by the same rules

• 1:45:32Speaker 03

  I know

• 1:45:32Speaker 04

  we have rules they don't have rules they have win and I mean you're gonna see it on full display in Los Angeles but

• 1:45:38Speaker 03

  and and I've said this before bro I'm not it's not the whole party when you're a godless they don't bro pro-abortion no name can you honestly because I've asked them before name one Democrat leader that's openly like hey listen I'm a Christian I believe in Christ go

• 1:45:53Patrick Bet-David?

  no I I

• 1:45:54Speaker 03

  zero

• 1:45:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I've thought of this before you can see this if you want to say I'm sure

• 1:45:58Speaker 03

  this is the Democrats on on when when Talarico won in Texas play it ladies and gentlemen

• 1:46:07Speaker 03

  murder

• 1:46:07Patrick Bet-David?

  why

• 1:46:08Speaker 03

  guys murder this is Texas bro Talarico hat they are

• 1:46:12Speaker 04

  I don't want to get faith faith driven here but this does seem like it constantly talk about how it's a spiritual attack and if you look at everything they represent their anti-truth positions in other words like if you were to believe God is absolute truth they don't take positions that are like counter to they take the full opposition that the the beauty of a baby is irrelevant doesn't exist in fact you should celebrate your abortion we've we've done away completely with any type of respect for the idea of biology

• 1:46:40Patrick Bet-David?

  what what what really upsets me is I've got three kids and one of whom is is getting old now like and not like if they were ever do something like

• 1:46:47Speaker 04

  oh my god

• 1:46:48Patrick Bet-David?

  like and it's not and not not that I would be angry it would be like that I'm just so disappointed do these do these girls not have fathers who say even if even if you support abortion understand it's an evil and that you should not celebrate it let alone define your promise

• 1:47:03Speaker 03

  are you ready for this where where do these like they look like they probably come from good homes white girls Texas it's the school it's the people that are in the school

• 1:47:12Patrick Bet-David?

  can I tell you something I will tell you like one one thing that I I would nudge more people to get involved is I would nudge more pastors to go run for office

• 1:47:22Speaker 04

  yes

• 1:47:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I would nudge more I would be nudging my pastor and by the way whoever your senior pastor is however good he is on the pulpit and by the way what do most pastors do they debate other people on religion constantly right so think about some of these Cliff Neckley and you know these guys that are very good at debating different religions and all this stuff these guys I think we need to encourage some of these guys to go run so imagine if things start opening up with prayer there's so many talented pastors who are debating their faith that need to consider running for office what happened with Talarico if you think about it he looked like a pastorish type of a guy that was running but he was on the left

• 1:48:02Speaker 04

  yes

• 1:48:02Patrick Bet-David?

  well why aren't more people on the right running why aren't more Christian pastors running for office I think they they the entire premise like I would go sit down with one pastor in Pasadena would do Bible study from 6 to 2 o'clock every question I would ask him he already had a rebuttal how does he have a rebuttal because he's answered that thing 500 times to 500 other people so the element of being prepared for debate is good so if you have a senior pastor recommendation for you go send a message to him text him right now if you have a relationship with them I say Pastor Jones Pastor John Pastor Dudley Rutherford have you thought about running for office why not have you thought about bringing it back to a little bit of faith why not have you thought about having a conversation with them why not I'd like to see more of that taking place but I want to transition to this next story

• 1:48:46Patrick Bet-David?

  weird story none of you guys are ready that I'm gonna bring up this story but I want to see how you react to it

• 1:48:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Ellen DeGeneres posts a video getting very emotional if you go to her Instagram account you'll see which one it is got millions and millions of views I think I like 1920 million views and she posts a tearful video tribute to Matthew Wright a longtime EP executive producer of her talk show who died suddenly in LA this is it who died suddenly in LA on October 30th at the age of 52 and if you watch this video play the first 20 seconds I even liked this post because it was emotional go ahead

• 1:49:28Tom Ellsworth?

  as I don't know if any

• 1:49:31Tom Ellsworth?

  so Matt Wright who was our executive producer um and was featured on our show a lot died um the other day and he

• 1:49:44Tom Ellsworth?

  he was an amazing guy he was funny god he made me laugh he would surprise me with things that he did all the time um he he was smart and he was kind he was a part of our show that that I mean everyone loved him everyone loved him I loved him

• 1:50:08Patrick Bet-David?

  pause it right there okay so emotional sincere you feel it the family sets up a $50,000 goal to bring him home to New York funeral cost everything trust all that stuff and Ellen donated $5,000

• 1:50:26Patrick Bet-David?

  there's a lady that's worth a half a billion dollars your EP dies that have been with you for decades not just one of your associate producer something like that what do you think about that Tom does that say anything to you the the fans have lost their mind they're like you're worth this much money you're only giving $5,000 do you have any position on this of her giving $5,000 to the EP's family

• 1:50:46Speaker 04

  so has the family said anything because what I don't know is maybe behind the scenes

• 1:50:51Patrick Bet-David?

  that was my first reaction is that maybe she doesn't want to take over the whole

• 1:50:55Speaker 04

  campaign if she goes and that draws attention away and less people are less likely to donate so like before I comment and say something I don't know if she went and gave them a million dollars that nobody knows about uh I do know that there was a another death on her show by Twitch he had sadly committed suicide incredible incredible talent and I think there she did take care of she was actively involved I don't know

• 1:51:18Speaker 03

  well I don't know if you guys remember the rumors of how remember how happy she was on her show there was allegations where people couldn't even look they were told if you look in her eyes you're gonna get fired if you were sick they would fire you racism humiliation bro like and this is all remember all the all the dancing and everything after that you found out how she was and this was from people that worked there

• 1:51:40Speaker 04

  yeah numerous people said she was terrible

• 1:51:42Speaker 03

  and it was horrible horrible I feel the emotion like I like I'm not I'm not taking that away like I feel for her it gets me emotional thinking about that because that means you know she loved him and I'm pretty sure you know it it went both ways but and again we don't know but if it's only five grand and you're putting out they get guess what then then don't even donate the five grand for people to see it just send it to them

• 1:52:02Patrick Bet-David?

  that's the that's the problem

• 1:52:03Speaker 03

  just send it to them

• 1:52:04Patrick Bet-David?

  the problem what people are saying is You would have been better off not giving anything. Yeah, yes. And giving them out behind closed doors. Yes. Because if you gave publicly on GoFundMe $5,000, that's making people think you didn't give anything else behind closed doors. That's what people. But also, the fa- I just wanted to double check that it was the family that set up the GoFundMe or the fundraiser. First of all. Ended up raising $94,000. TMZ, independent, they paid six. They looked at it, there's been no other money that's been publicly given to the family that they know about. I was, first thing is use give, send, go and not go F me, as I like to call it, but set that aside. Um, the fact that the family had to set one up means that I would have imagined that a producer would have made a decent living on her show, that the family doesn't need to raise money to bury their, their kid.

• 1:52:47Speaker 04

  Uh, it depends on the, the produce, like, there's numerous tiers of what.

• 1:52:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, but was he an EP, was he, was he an EP? If you're an EP, bro, you're getting checks.

• 1:52:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, but not to like.

• 1:52:57Speaker 03

  If you're an EP.

• 1:52:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Whatever you are, if your family, if you don't have enough money and your family doesn't have enough money to bury you in death, I mean, that's.

• 1:53:03Speaker 03

  Well, they're saying that they want to transfer him from somewhere to New York.

• 1:53:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but that's still Vinnie.

• 1:53:06Speaker 03

  No, I'm with you.

• 1:53:08Speaker 04

  It is odd.

• 1:53:09Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not a.

• 1:53:09Speaker 03

  Oh, no, I'm with you. I'm, by the way, I, like, like you said, and then what, what, here's the, here's the flip side. Other people are gonna say, well, she put the 5,000 so people could see that her name is there. So that they'll be like, oh, if Ellen's doing it, oh, nice, let me do it. But this is a backfire, this is, bro.

• 1:53:24Speaker 04

  But it is weird that they can't afford, now that I think about it.

• 1:53:27Patrick Bet-David?

  An EP on that big of a show makes minimum 250,000.

• 1:53:31Speaker 04

  It's odd.

• 1:53:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Minimum.

• 1:53:32Speaker 03

  An episode, is it?

• 1:53:33Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, per year.

• 1:53:34Speaker 04

  Long-term EP more, for sure.

• 1:53:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, an episode 250, but then you can be all the way up to half a million dollars on a big show like that. Let's play like super devil's advocate. Maybe she knows that the family's trying, you know, it's, it's not a fraudulent, maybe she is suspicious of the reasons for their, for them doing it. Who gives a sweet merciful goodness? She could have, afford to have someone, you know, misappropriate, steal a hundred thousand dollars from her. You make a big, a, a, a splashy donation to set the mood. Thousand dollars.

• 1:53:59Speaker 04

  It's a weird.

• 1:54:01Patrick Bet-David?

  A little weird when you see that. Plus, given the rumors about her behavior, you know, she, she does look upset there. Uh, but she does have a reputation of not being the nicest person on earth.

• 1:54:11Speaker 04

  Someone can be very emotionally affected by something and still have a character type to not, like, there are just certain people that are like that. It doesn't mean it doesn't emotionally hurt her. She might just be the type who just doesn't.

• 1:54:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me read two other things for you. We'll go to, uh, uh, what do you call it? We'll go to, uh, Johnny Depp, with some news came out, could be good news for some people. I'm happy about this if it ends up happening. Do you remember when Johnny Depp was in court over Amber, Amber Heard? And they said, well, Disney kind of distanced themselves because they believed that, you know, Russell Brand ended up being guilty. Johnny Depp didn't end up being guilty. Everybody hated this guy for many years thinking, how dare you treat Amber Heard that way? They're like, wait a minute, she's the evil one, not Johnny Depp. Well, story comes out saying, I will never do Pirates of the Caribbean. What if they paid this much money? I will never do Pirates of, I don't know if you remember this or not. Yes. You don't remember this?

• 1:54:57Speaker 03

  Well, what was it?

• 1:54:58Patrick Bet-David?

  He said, I will never do Pirates of the Caribbean. If you guys can find that clip in the back. Johnny Depp now no longer rules out a Pirates of the Caribbean return. After years away from the franchise, so Johnny Depp could make that comeback. 50 million, never, 100 million, never, 100 million? Hmm, maybe. Shutting the door down on Pirates of the Caribbean. Depp previously said that wasn't anything that could convince him to return after the fallout. Now it sounds like he's changing his tune and is open to reprising his role as Jack Sparrow. If the situation is right, the film was released 2003 and ushered in a new era of superstardom for Depp for more films. Uh, uh, four more films were released from 06, 17, and Depp always reprising his role.

• 1:55:41Patrick Bet-David?

  The franchise never returned past 2017. Uh, following the fallout between Depp and his ex-wife Amber Heard, who was famously successfully sued for defamation or abuse allegations published by the WAPA. The only involvement I really want to have, truly, is just to send them off on a better note. Depp told Entertainment Tonight, I'll go to work with producer Jerry Buckenheimer tomorrow for anything, he continued. If it's Jerry, I trust him and we have deep friendship. At his best, the franchise is great cinema at its finest. Depp is starring in Eb- Evans Year, set for release November 13, 2026, and Date Drinker scheduled for 27. So do you think it'll actually happen? Is this the interview of him saying he'll never do it? Is this the one that he said he'll never do it? Or is this the one that says he will do it? Okay, play clip, go for it.

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• 1:59:07Speaker 03

  I hear it, I hear it.

• 1:59:09Speaker 06

  How, how they're gonna top off the Pirates thing. The only involvement that I really want to have, truly, is just to send them off on a better note.

• 1:59:28Speaker 06

  I gotta work with Buckheimer tomorrow for anything, you know? Doesn't matter if it's Jerry.

• 1:59:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think he'll do it?

• 1:59:37Speaker 03

  I, well, I think.

• 1:59:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think he'll do it?

• 1:59:39Speaker 03

  I'm gonna say, I, I don't think so, but by the, just, just from his, just, by the way, in acting, Pat, you know that they say, take space. Take time, like, people rush into acting, he's, how slow. I thought, by the, I thought the speed was on 0.5. He's like, and I'm.

• 1:59:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm thinking.

• 1:59:57Speaker 03

  Told him that, and I'm, and I'm like, waiting, but, by the way, there is no Pirates of the Caribbean without Johnny Depp. He would, dude, one of the most phenom- by the way, the second one, the third one, it was just, you always wanted to watch him. I hope for redemption, and not necessarily revenge, but we were in that era of time where it was like, believe all women. But wait a minute, she, there's no, she's lying. Believe all women, I don't care, you know, the whole, I'm with her, Hillary Clinton. This is, this doesn't make sense without him, and I hope, I mean, he's getting freaking older. I don't know if you guys have been paying attention, he's getting, I mean, besides the slow talk, but I am a huge, huge Johnny Depp fan from when he was in, uh, bro. Freddy Krueger. Oh, my God. Nightmare on Elm Street. He's in the first one.

• 2:00:41Speaker 03

  Getting sucked into the bed, and by the way, that scarred me. With the water bed spray.

• 2:00:48Speaker 03

  The TV gets sucked in there, the blood's on the, by the way, one of, uh, it's stuck with me forever. From, you know, No Fear and Loathing to all the Alice in Wonderland. This guy is freaking amazing. I hope, I hope he does. I'll say 75% he comes back, but think about that story. You guys told me to go to hell, I freaking lost everything, everybody, by the way, could you know, people still see him, you know what they say to him? You're a scumbag and it, that it's not gonna go away. But that, that movie franchise does not exist without him, nobody could replace him. For my selfish reasons, I want him back, but I don't know, 75%.

• 2:01:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You, you know, there's some crazy stories about Johnny Depp. He spends so much time in hospitals, dressed as Jack Sparrow.

• 2:01:29Speaker 03

  I cry every time I see that. Have you seen those, Pat? Where he dresses up, you can find the Connor just really quick. He goes into hospitals on his off time when they're not shooting, dressed up as freaking Jack Sparrow and hug, bro.

• 2:01:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Doesn't do it with any media.

• 2:01:42Speaker 03

  No media, he just comes in, like, parents are recording stuff, he goes into these hospitals and the faces of these kids that are in bad shape and dying, bro, look, look at what he does.

• 2:01:50Patrick Bet-David?

  That's really him? That's him, he does it all the time.

• 2:01:55Speaker 03

  Look, I wish we had it without the people. He's like, he speaks with the accent and everything, Pat, and his, and the sidekicks come with him.

• 2:02:03Speaker 04

  No media attention around it. He just does it because he loves to do it.

• 2:02:07Speaker 03

  Awesome, bro.

• 2:02:08Speaker 04

  You know, the actor who recently died of ALS, he allowed that guy to stay in his house to alleviate the burden of the cost of treating his ALS. There's so many stories that have come out about Johnny Depp.

• 2:02:18Speaker 03

  He's amazing.

• 2:02:19Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a calcio market. It's at 67%. That he'll be in the next, that he'll be in the next movie.

• 2:02:24Speaker 04

  I think he will do it as a final send off. I really, really do. I love Johnny Depp. One of my favorite actors of all time, just in terms of the diversity of roles he plays.

• 2:02:32Speaker 03

  What do you think, Pat? You think yea or nay?

• 2:02:33Patrick Bet-David?

  He has to do it.

• 2:02:34Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:02:35Patrick Bet-David?

  He has. And by the way, I'll tell you from different angles why he has to do it. One, I think he has to do it because he needs the money. Okay. I think he hasn't done a big thing for a while. And sometimes, you know, with some of the habits that he had, he was a big spender. So I don't know how much of the money he's, he's.

• 2:02:49Speaker 04

  The Fantastic Beast, wasn't he in that whole thing?

• 2:02:51Patrick Bet-David?

  He, he, he's probably gonna need to make the money. And number two is, this is your art. You were born to do this. You know, he's one of the few people in the world that does what God put him here to do.

• 2:03:03Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:03:04Patrick Bet-David?

  He's one of the greatest actors of all time. When this guy would, you would see the, did he do the chocolate?

• 2:03:10Speaker 04

  Willy Wonka.

• 2:03:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Willy Wonka, right?

• 2:03:12Speaker 04

  He was Willy Wonka, 100%.

• 2:03:13Patrick Bet-David?

  He has done so much great work. In my opinion, he's, he's in my top 10 of greatest actors. I can watch this guy.

• 2:03:19Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:03:19Patrick Bet-David?

  His work is just phenomenal what he does. I think, I think he's gonna do it. I don't think it's gonna be a no.

• 2:03:25Speaker 03

  And you're right. And you know why you're right? He was reportedly spending $30,000 a month on wine, which is 300, I'm being dead serious.

• 2:03:33Speaker 04

  From a legacy perspective, this, this is the apology. This is the apology to him from, from the movie industry. And also, you imagine the jokes that they can put into this movie, like.

• 2:03:43Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 2:03:44Speaker 04

  Make the villain, like, name the villain Amber or something, or put like the Amber Stone of Doom.

• 2:03:48Speaker 03

  And you ready for this? In 2018 Rolling Stone interview, Depp was, actually said the reporter, amount was too low. He goes, it's insulting to say that I spent $30,000 on wine because it's way far more.

• 2:03:59Speaker 04

  He's amazing.

• 2:04:00Speaker 03

  It was far, far more. He's a gangster. I love him.

• 2:04:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me wrap it up with this last one here and then we'll finish it off. So I saw the story the other day. I was talking to Tom. It's been, it's been now a year and a half that Bailey's been in school. Is it a year and a half, two years, something like that, that Bailey's been in school. And so I said, Tom, I said, hey, Tom, have you adjusted? It sounds like it's interesting you ask that question. You know, you never fully adjust, but I'm kinda there, you know, where it's like you see, and you know, every, every moment I get for Bailey to come here from school, I wanna have it. But at first, when it happened, Tom had a hard time with it. When we were at dinner one time, I was asking him about it. And then every time I see Tico, I'm like, man, dude, I got four more years with you, guy, and I appreciate. I read this the other day. I think some parents will relate to this.

• 2:04:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And I, and I think some kids who ever wonder why fathers do what they do, it's like, dude, why does he do that? What's, what's wrong with this guy? So he says, my dad proved, drove 40 minutes to pick me up at the airport. I was furious. I had already told him I was taking the train. Don't come pick me up. It was almost midnight. He was standing by the car in his slippers. You shouldn't be driving this late. Nice to see you too. He picked up my suitcase, back in the car. I brought it up again. Dad, the train drops me off particularly at the front door. I know. And now you have to drive all the way back home with me. I know that too. He didn't argue. He just kept driving. Then I noticed

• 2:05:28Patrick Bet-David?

  a paper bag between us, an egg sandwich, an apple, the same lunch you used to pack for me when I was a kid. You probably ate something on the plane, he said. I wasn't sure. I ate the sandwich. He asked me about my trip. Our phone calls were usually short. How's everything going? Good. Just busy with work. But this time, we had 40 minutes. So I told him about the presentation that had gone badly. Then I told him about the coworker who had helped me, about the hotel window that wouldn't close, about the dinner I had eaten alone. He missed our exit because he was too busy asking what happened next. Neither of us mentioned it. When we pulled up outside my apartment, I tried one last

• 2:06:12Patrick Bet-David?

  time. You know, you didn't have to do this. He kept his hands on the steering wheel. I know. You can get home on your own. Then he looked at me. I just wanted to hear how your trip went. That's when I realized something. Had spent the entire drive explaining why he didn't need to pick me up. And he had spent the entire drive asking me about my life. We sat there a little longer. Then I told him something about work that I'd never had the courage to tell anyone. He didn't give me any advice. He didn't tell me what I should have done. He just listened. Then he said to me, you'll figure it out. It was such a simple thing to say, but somehow I needed to hear it from him. The next morning, I checked my return flight for the following month. I started typing. Don't worry about

• 2:06:56Patrick Bet-David?

  picking me up. I deleted it. Then I typed, are you free on the 18th? My flight lands at 7:00. I started the message. Then I hit send. My text back 7:00 AM or 7:00 PM? He said 7:00 PM. Good. We can have dinner a few seconds later. Unless you already ate on the plane. I smiled. Some people say I love you. Others drive 40 minutes at midnight with an egg sandwich on the passenger seat. Isn't that amazing, Tom? I read this and I thought of you.

• 2:07:33Speaker 03

  Here we go again.

• 2:07:34Tom Ellsworth?

  That's it.

• 2:07:34Speaker 04

  I can't look at Tom and cry.

• 2:07:36Tom Ellsworth?

  That's it. I, I bring her a Chipotle and a Red Bull.

• 2:07:41Tom Ellsworth?

  And I pick her up at 400. I swear to God.

• 2:07:44Speaker 03

  Oh, Chipotle and a Red Bull.

• 2:07:45Tom Ellsworth?

  I bring her, I bring her the Chipotle bowl she likes and a Red Bull.

• 2:07:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Isn't that great? And every time she come, we go to dinner as a family. We enjoy each other's company. Sometimes you get so caught up with all this stuff that's going on, the, you know, politics, business, career, finance, money, all this stuff. And you forget, dude, sometimes just enjoy the flipping convo with your kid.

• 2:08:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:08:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And sometimes I'm sitting there and my, you know, one of my kids just wants to tell me for 45 minutes about something I have no interest in. And I just sit there. I'm like, dude, flush it out. Flush, tell me whatever you're thinking. What do you got? What do you want to tell me? Tell me whatever you're thinking because this is not gonna be around forever.

• 2:08:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:08:26Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, we're aging.

• 2:08:26Speaker 04

  That's fast.

• 2:08:27Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, this thing goes very, very fast. I got a 14 year old, a 13 year old, a 10 year old and a five year old. And if I had it my way, I would have 20 more kids just to have kids in my house. But for some of us who, you know, are at certain ages where we're thinking, why is my dad? Why is my mom? Why are they doing this? Why do I just want? Man, they just want to spend some time with you. That's all they want. They just want your company. I'm the happiest when my kids are around me. Happiest when my kids are around me. So I don't know who had to hear this message, but I saw this. I thought of Tom, wanted to share with you. And it looks like you want to say something.

• 2:09:00Speaker 03

  And I'm so sorry, Pat, because I wanted to give the flip side as the, as the kid when it comes to, you know, looking at the parent, like with, with my mom and, you know, I talk to her every day and like, sometimes you don't get to see, see them as much as you want. And I tell people, I saw a video and a guy was sitting with another guy and they were talking about my parents and seeing them. And like, especially if they're in your life and you're involved. Like my dad died when I was, when I was young, but my mom's still there. And he looked at the guy and he goes, he goes, wait a minute, you don't see her? He goes, how many times you see your mom a year? And he, he goes, maybe, once. He goes, how old is she? He's like, 70. He's like, nah, I got, I got 10 years. He goes, he goes, no, you don't. He goes, no, you don't. You have 10 visits. He goes, and it hit me. It got me emotional. He's like, you only have 10 more times that you're

• 2:09:44Speaker 03

  gonna see her and she could probably be gone. So I tell people, if you're questioning, if you're thinking about it, go, besides calling them, go surprise them. Me and my family, Pat, we, for years, we always do this. I would go and be in the trunk. My sister would be in the air force. I'd, I'd show up in Colorado. They'd show up in the trunk and they'd open it. My, they'd tell my mom, we're shopping and there's something in there. She'd open it and I'd surprise the hell out of her. And the happiness that you get from them. And I love that you said it. It's Tom, guys, it's going like this. And for anybody out there that's in their late 30s and 40s, are the days getting quicker? Are you waking up on Friday and going, what the hell happened to the week? It's gonna go like that? Call them, talk to them. I'm telling you guys right now, the happiest

• 2:10:28Speaker 03

  you're going to make these people, your parents, is just knowing that you're caring, that you love them. Three, I love you. That's it. Just want to let you know, click, you'll make their freaking day.

• 2:10:38Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. With that being said, gang, today's what? What is today? Oh, we're doing a podcast.

• 2:10:42Speaker 03

  I forgot what day it was.

• 2:10:44Patrick Bet-David?

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