Fort Hood Death Penalty, Porsche’s 20% Price Hike & Vance Bans Microsoft's Visas | PBD Podcast #870

Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team break down the Fort Hood shooter’s death penalty, Porsche’s plan to raise top-end prices 20%, and JD Vance’s visa showdown with Microsoft. The discussion tackles public executions, Porsche’s fight to restore profits, and the battle over American jobs and foreign labor. ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🪙 GET A LIMITED EDITION COIN: https://bit.ly/3W0RoPj 👞 Get the NEW Billionaire Suede Loafer: https://bit.ly/4ym5oRA 👕 SHOP THE ICON COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3TuUU3x 👞 GET THE FLB1's: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6 Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: http://kalshi.com/pbd ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT @BetDavidConsulting @vtgenz @ValuetainmentComedy ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't, you don't, you don't watch, anyways, Adam's here trying to tell us that a player, is a very good player, MVP topic candidate, and I keep trying to tell Adam, Adam, you don't know about sports. Especially basketball. He wants to be a sports commentator non-stop, and Stephen A. Smith puts him in his place. Every time. Every time we're together, but anyways, let me tell you some good news. Elon Musk chose, out of all the companies he's competing against, like, let me, let me go pick on an industry. So guess what industry he's picking on? He's picking on Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile, saying, "I can provide better service for your customers than you can." And not only that, all those dead spots that you guys keep losing your phone, like, when I go up to Palm Beach, I lose service at around Boynton Beach or Boca, every single time if you're on AT&T.

• 1:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Or off the 210 freeway in Glendale, when you're going from Granada Hills, and you go off that 210, you know which one I'm talking about, like Roxford and Silmar? Yeah. Right over that seven minute, you have no service. Well, Elon's trying to say, "I'll give you service there," okay? Or when your internet goes out, and, what is the local Infinity, is that what it is? Infinity's out, Infinity's out, Infinity's out, Infinity's out, oh, Infinity's out, but we forgot to tell you guys that we're out. This guy wants to compete in that market. So, so, the day he announces this, Verizon, everyone's numbers are down 7% just based off an announcement. Everybody's. He gets in that, now, whether he's gonna get into the phone business or not, we'll talk about that as well.

• 1:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Porsche hires a new CEO, you know who their new CEO is? He used to be with Porsche, back in the days. Okay. Then he leaves Porsche to go become the CTO of Ferrari. Then he leaves Ferrari to go become the CEO of McLaren. Then he comes back to Porsche, and guess what he wants to do to Porsche? He wants to Ferrari-ify Porsche, is what he wants to do. That's a new verb. So, right now, Porsche produces around 330,000 cars a year, and he wants to say, "No, we're gonna go to 200,000 cars a year." And the top-line car price is, "I'm gonna raise them by 20%, so if you're paying $250 for a Porsche 911 Turbo S, guess what, it's gonna be $300,000."

• 2:35Patrick Bet-David?

  And they're about to announce a new, October 15, and I think that they're announcing a new supercar. It's called Mission S. Ooh. It's Mission S, to ridiculous, so he wants to go like this. He's going high. And so, a lot of people are saying, "Are you gonna get rid of the lower-level cars? Are you gonna get rid of the Boxer, the Cayenne, all this stuff? What are you gonna be doing? Because are you gonna try to serve the average-day person that can go buy a $70,000 car, that can't afford to buy a $300,000 car? People are concerned, we'll talk about that, I think it's a great story. In the meantime, Starbucks. Today, I'm driving in the car, I'm getting ready, my girls decide to come with me. I got a real cute picture, I'll show you guys, here in a minute. Each of them has a real, Alyssa, can you take a picture with them with both of their shirts on and send it to me? Maybe they can come visit here in a minute, not right now, like, in 20 minutes.

• 3:19Patrick Bet-David?

  But, Brooklyn looks at me, she says, "Daddy, you can't go to Starbucks anymore," while she's eating her yogurt. I said, "Why can't I go to Starbucks anymore?" Because they put slime. She's five years old. They put slime, and Miki told me, "You can't drink it. You can't go to Starbucks anymore." I said, "Really?" Story comes out that all the sugar situation, I don't know if you got the... All the, the no-sugar, it's sugar. Yeah, the sugar story, and then... And guess what Brian Nicolle decides to do? He whispers to the market, "Hey, everybody, what if Starbucks bought Chipotle?" Wait, what? Yes, now, keep in mind, the guy who was the former CEO of Chipotle, comes to Starbucks. He fixed Chipotle. He took, he took Chipotle from $7 billion to a $71 billion company.

• 4:01Patrick Bet-David?

  10x his valuation, comes to Starbucks, the day he announced that he's gonna be the CEO of Starbucks, Starbucks' valuation goes up $20 billion just on the announcement. His comp was like $199 million, and people bitched about it, $150, $190 million, real money. And today, he announces, "What if we bought Chipotle?" Can you imagine, like, Chipotle and Starbucks? Like, can I get a chicken combo bowl with a frappuccino? Oh, damn. That's kind of a weird... I don't coffee in Mexican, it doesn't go. I don't know what it is, but we'll definitely get into that story. In the meantime, maybe in high school, there's this guy, there's a lot of famous Joes. There's a lot of famous Joes out there. You got, you know, Joe Lonsdale, billionaire, with Palantir. You got Joe Biden, right? You got Joe Burrow.

• 4:46Patrick Bet-David?

  You got Joe Burrow, who is 2-on-2, very... Joe Namath? Joe Namath, but there's a guy named Joe Rogan, that just got a quarter of a billion-dollar renewal contract in the podcast space from Spotify. Good. That, that deal is apparently done as well, the announcement is out there. And at Microsoft, J.D. Vance, a little pissed at Microsoft, comes out and says, "Let me get this straight. So you decide to lay off 6,000 people, US workers, like, oh, we gotta cut back. While you're laying off these 6,000 American workers, you filed for 6,000 H1B visas, that I know you're applying for, and obtaining roughly 3,000 green cards,

• 5:27Patrick Bet-David?

  80% of the 6,000 H1B visas were extensions or status changes for existing employees." J.D. Vance comes on and says, "Hey, we're not doing that." He gets involved, and there's a bunch of commentary, that we'll talk about that as well. Another stat that is very interesting, Vinnie's following this very closely, Adam is, like, follows the data like a stock. So, the number of ninth-grade girls that identify as lesbians has dropped from 30% to 17%. Hmm, weird. How? I wonder why? I wonder why that number blew up under Biden? Where more ninth-grade girls were identifying as lesbians, where we have military leaders who are transgender leaders that we have to watch every single day? "Oh, he is so intimidating." He is so intimidating going into these meetings.

• 6:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Finally, we get rid of frickin' insanity, and logic is back. And you know what's always sitting next to me? This right here, the gay B.C.s. This book right here, "Why Do Kids Need to Read Stuff Like This? For what? If they're gonna do it, let them do it after 18 years old. Why put this in their head early on?" And you know what people are saying? UCLA expert, she's like, "Well, we, we, we can't be too hurried to tie it to anything, because you may be taking that away from people, you know, and they're going through it." Leave the flipping kids alone! It's the one thing that Democrats are hurting their chances with every election they're going into, because they are afraid of this, of getting canceled. But logic says, from CDC, kids don't wanna be lesbians right now, they don't identify themselves as that. I wonder why?

• 6:56Patrick Bet-David?

  And then, aside from that Fort Hood shooting, a lot of people have different positions on this one. Hexit comes out and says, "Oh, you wanna kill 13 of our soldiers, and you wanna put 32 of them in the hospital, and then you want us to feel sorry for you, and just kinda give you a death penalty, and you do it privately, and nobody sees it? No, no, no, no, no. Bring back public execution, same day, same time, same place, in front of people, and we're gonna livestream it." What? Yes. Will YouTube even allow that to be seen? If you think about that, it's, it's a real thing, that, you know? Will YouTube allow people to see it? Probably. Or will it be something that X will, and you put it on X? Or do you need to go on some of these crazy, you know, what do they call those black, dark websites? Whatever dark web? To see this stuff?

• 7:40Patrick Bet-David?

  It is a live, you know, execution, like, he's going, "We're going back to World War II, the way you did, you did stuff like, you gotta hear this video, and we'll have a debate. And I wanna know what you think about it. Good, bad, ugly, maybe your position's different." The Cornell girl, I mean, every time I... I don't know, this Cornell, Vinnie found her Instagram, we can't give her name apparently, but we looked up who she's on Instagram, Adam was trying to DM, but that's a different conversation. That's neither here nor there, Pat. This girl, apparently, more new texts came out, and with these new texts that came out, you know what's crazy? I don't even wanna tell you what they did to one of the guys. Tom was telling me, I thought it was Tom's, Tom's telling me, they did... I hate to say it, this is what the news says.

• 8:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You good, Pat? You just went there visually, is that what you did? Is that what you did? I can't even tell you. I already knew what you're thinking in your head. First, I thought Tom was like back in college, I'm like, Tom, you can't tell me stuff like this. I'm sitting here having a serious preparation for the podcast, Tom's telling me about his college stories, and then I find that it's not him, it's the guy. It's the guy. But anyways, I don't wanna get multi, just, let's just stay serious, don't get silly here. I'm reenacting it, don't... Then another stat comes out, is Jane Doe defended the gang-bang in texts. Bang, bang, like, you know? And then we have this, this Cornell girl, not the Cornell girl, Kentucky. Did you see the stats on abortions in Kentucky? This is one of the craziest stats you'll see, how the state of Kentucky, how many abortions they had the year before, and what happens the following year?

• 9:08Patrick Bet-David?

  The stock looks like what happened to E-Toys 15 years ago. It looks like, boom, a drop like this. You go from a dollar stock to a penny stock, you're out of business. And then, one of the clips, if we get time to get into it, this one clip I want you to see is, the six-year-old kid shoots the teacher.

• 9:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, at first, I'm going in the comment section because it's like, this is AI. No, no, it's not AI. No, there's no way this is real. And then after he shoots the teacher, the teacher's holding him. He's like, hey, shut up. Wait, what? Cops show up. Shot, shot the teacher. And Vinny's like, this is real. I don't believe this is real. I'm gonna show it to you. When we do, we're gonna do earmuffs for some of you guys that got kids. Just be prepared for it. It's a little crazy when you look at this. And then last but not least, there's a clip I gotta show you guys for some of you that are grandpas of this kid who drops her toy over the bridge.

• 10:09Patrick Bet-David?

  And the grandpa's trying to jump over to get the doll for the granddaughter.

• 10:16Speaker 01

  Don't make us cry. You're making us like, I'm in shambles at the end of these podcasts.

• 10:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Daughters are watching the podcast. Where's the Brooklyn? Tell Brooklyn to get in there.

• 10:24Speaker 01

  There she is.

• 10:25Patrick Bet-David?

  My baby, baby.

• 10:26Speaker 01

  I'm letting you know, Pat, the last two podcasts, I was in an emotional wreck for at least an hour.

• 10:30Patrick Bet-David?

  I got messages. People are saying, why are you making Tom cry? I'm like, what did I do? All I did is I just asked the question.

• 10:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I brought some stories. Anyways, for those of you guys that joined, we have our crew in the back that, so today, one of the disclaimers I want to put for all of you is if some of the stories come out in Chilean or Spanish, just forgive us because, you know, there may be some technical difficulties with that.

• 10:52Speaker 01

  Remember that guy?

• 10:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And last but not least, I want to give a shout out to somebody. We were having dinner, weird story with Kevin Spacey, okay? And a guy in a restaurant that Alper told me, Alper, you know, you told me this place is quiet. Oh, you got the Jordan table. This is the loudest restaurant in the world. It's called Pink Steak or something like that.

• 11:13Speaker 01

  Pink Steak, amazing food.

• 11:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Food was great. DJ Khalid was our waiter. Khalid, no, no, literally Khalid. I think he's from Morocco.

• 11:20Speaker 01

  We the best.

• 11:20Patrick Bet-David?

  He was phenomenal. And we're having a conversation with Evan Lowenstein, who him and his brother Evan and Jaren used to do a song back in the days.

• 11:27Speaker 01

  Crazy for this girl. I can't believe that was it.

• 11:30Patrick Bet-David?

  And he tells a story about his dad that watches the podcast, 85-year-old man, Mr. Chuck Lowenstein. I want to give a shout out to you. And I know what country you're from. I'm not gonna say it. And where you are right now, where you watch it from. He says, tell Patrick, tell PBD.

• 11:44Speaker 01

  PBD.

• 11:44Patrick Bet-David?

  That I have his backpack.

• 11:45Speaker 01

  He bought a backpack.

• 11:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And I love the backpack. And give him a shout out that we like to use the word Chuck.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  And he got 50% off.

• 11:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Chuck, we love you. We appreciate the kind words. I don't know what you did, but you have two very good-looking boys that, you know, a little bit too good genes.

• 12:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:01Patrick Bet-David?

  A little too good genes.

• 12:02Speaker 01

  They can sing.

• 12:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Little too handsome, like pump the brakes.

• 12:04Speaker 01

  Chill out.

• 12:05Patrick Bet-David?

  And we actually had a phenomenal, phenomenal. We had a very good conversation, obviously.

• 12:09Speaker 01

  You have dessert?

• 12:09Patrick Bet-David?

  And it was good. Anyways, okay, so folks, for some of you guys that love the numbered stuff that we do, limited editions one, this one, when I tell you it's gonna go, it's gonna go because it comes with a certificate of authenticity. And the sticker hologram that tells you this is limited edition and there's only 100 of them. Couple of different types of coins that we launched for the 250-year anniversary that we have. This, I have a Bitcoin collection in my house, a Bitcoin collection. And I've bought coins for many, many years. And I just set them aside and I sit on them. And somehow, some way, years later, I find that I 100x the valuation or whatever it is. But I want you to watch this clip. And if you're somebody that say collects unique things, this may be something you may wanna buy, set it aside, put it in your safe and don't think about it for a decade or two. Go for it.

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• 15:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes. And so to go get these, let me put the link below if you can, because there's different kinds of coins. Umberto, if you can go to FLB.com, do me a favor, go to FLB.com if you can do that on the website. There's a website called FLB.com. And if you go on FLB.com, I want you to go and type COIN on the top right. Oh my God, this is gonna be a long one, Umberto. This is the simplest ask I had of you is just to go to FLB.com and go on the top right and search and type in COIN. Go top right, top right word, search.

• 16:12Speaker 01

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• 16:13Patrick Bet-David?

  This is gonna be a long one, folks. Alá derecha arriba. And there they are. Okay, the limited edition will be on the left. And the 250 Challenge Coin will be on the right. You can order both of them. So when you go on FLB.com, make sure to go to COIN and then you'll find the coins, order them. You will see these for some of you that are watching this that didn't get a chance to get it. You will need to go to eBay to get them because they're gonna sell out fairly quickly because these are limited edition and they come in a case like this, numbered with the hologram. And again, this is something you buy, you set aside and you save for yourself. Again, go to FLB.com, search toward COIN. You'll find a coin. If you wanna add other stuff to it as well, you can. All right. With that being said, let's get right into it. The first story, Tom, I want to get into is the story of SpaceX.

• 16:56Patrick Bet-David?

  So Elon isn't just trying to eliminate dead zones. He is trying to literally become your phone company. And when this announcement was made, let me tell you how scary it was for Verizon. Verizon stock dropped 7.3%. AT&T dropped 7.8%. T-Mobile dropped 7%. He agreed to buy roughly $8 billion worth of nationwide 800 megahertz low-band spectrum from grain management. Then the deal gives SpaceX up to 14 megahertz of paired spectrum and comes on top of prior spectrum acquisitions, including roughly $19.6 billion tied to EchoStar spectrum purchases.

• 17:36Patrick Bet-David?

  SpaceX also has FCC approval for 15,000 Stellion Gen 2 Starling Mobile Constellation. So all of this stuff means what? This isn't a phone company. So they haven't yet announced that they're gonna have their own Tesla competing with iPhone or competing with Android or all the other phones that are out there. This is service. So he's going to service first. So you ever have a pocket where you drive and I don't know if you guys got this or not. Every time I drive and I go up to Palm Beach.

• 18:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And I pass by Boca, like right between Boca and Boynton, there's about five minutes that AT&T service isn't good. Or if I fly out to go to LA and I'm on the 210 freeway, certain pockets of it, certain areas in Dallas, you don't have good service. Well, with this thing with Starlink, we're on a jet. I'm on a jet, we're going from here to Vegas. We're having phone calls. We're doing Zoom calls. We're, we're, the internet is ridiculous. And we're like, Tom, what the hell is going on with this jet? Starlink. Now, when you go on flights, they're like, well, we're so sorry, the internet is bad. When they say their Starlink quality is great. By the way, cable, cable TV internet, infinity sucks right now. Starlink's gonna come and say, don't worry about these guys.

• 18:46Patrick Bet-David?

  They are about to take out a lot of different markets out there. Specifically, these companies like Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile are shivering of what Starlink and SpaceX could turn into. So, Tom, how worried should they be?

• 18:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, they should be very worried, and I'm gonna tell you the words that did it. So Elon Musk is gonna take Starlink and bring it all the way down and provide internet service. That's not really news. Because, remember, a certain country, Zelensky was begging for Starlink to get internet to the people and to its military. So that's been coming. Here's what freaked everybody out. What you just read about is the spectrum deal, exactly as you said. And then this, these words. This will be coupled to an advanced terrestrial deployment. Advanced terrestrial? You know what terrestrial means, Vinny? Earth.

• 19:40Tom Ellsworth?

  So this will be connected to an advanced earth deployment, which means that it's not just Starlink, it's also a terrestrial network with all of the billions of dollars he's got to work with and with the old T-Mobile spectrum. When those words came across, the T-Mobile spectrum and connected to a terrestrial, an advanced terrestrial deployment, what happened then is, you know, Grain's own legal advisor flipped out and said, wait a minute, that's service reaching customers from both space and earth. So in other words, if there's dead zones, like maybe you're too deep inside of a building

• 20:22Tom Ellsworth?

  for Starlink outside, don't worry about it, because they're also gonna supplement it. So when you put those two things together, Pat, that's what freaked out all those stocks. Everybody goes, wait a minute, he's not just gonna put a blanket from space, he's gonna fill in gaps in major cities and concrete buildings from the earth side, and he's doing with the spectrum. When both of those things came out, boom, all the futures. What you saw, the stocks went down, they only went down 7%. Why did they go down more than that, Vinny? Because in every stock, you have today's value based on your business and how valuable you are today, and a speculation of the future. That's when you'll see Jensen Wang says he's gonna sell another 9,000 chips to Google. Nvidia jumps a point.

• 21:05Tom Ellsworth?

  That money hasn't hit the bank, they're talking about selling in the future. But guess what? Nvidia's stock goes up on future speculation and future business. Guess what? Verizon and these guys, the 7% that just went down, that's part of their future business. And the question's gonna be, you know, how quickly can Elon do this? But, you know what? Elon Musk just became, he's sort of a combination of Thomas Edison and E.F. Hutton. Do you remember E.F. Hutton? When E.F. Hutton talks, people listen. Remember that old thing?

• 21:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course, yeah.

• 21:40Tom Ellsworth?

  So he's sort of Thomas, Thomas Edison and E.F. Hutton.

• 21:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I would tell you this, here's a question. Can we run a poll on the back? This is the question I got for you folks. If you knew those dead zones that you deal with, with AT&T, with Verizon, with T-Mobile, and if you have any, post in the comment section if you have your, do you know the dead zones? What areas do you have bad service? Name the areas that you get bad service and who you're with.

• 22:02Speaker 01

  Well, here, it's not that bad, but like, for instance, my sister's driving on the 405 to LAX, because she works at the Space Force. Pat, there's a, there's a stretch of road for...

• 22:11Patrick Bet-David?

  And it's not a bridge, she's not going through a bridge or a tunnel.

• 22:13Speaker 01

  No, it's on the 405 from the 101, completely done, and then when they go into the hills...

• 22:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's her phone with?

• 22:19Speaker 01

  I don't, I don't...

• 22:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you text her while she's not up?

• 22:21Speaker 01

  No, she's up, she's up.

• 22:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Text her. Do you have any dead zones yourself that you drive through?

• 22:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Here in South Florida, yeah, always around Hollywood, near the airport.

• 22:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Near the airport?

• 22:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 22:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you experience any, Tom?

• 22:31Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm AT&T.

• 22:32Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're AT&T? I'm also AT&T.

• 22:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Absolutely. When I go into my backyard to talk to you, you'll say, Tom, I can't hear you. Tom, what's going on?

• 22:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow, right there.

• 22:39Tom Ellsworth?

  And that's when I always say, I'm sorry, Pat, I walk back toward the front of my house, the back of my house, everything there, Coral Ridge on the back.

• 22:45Patrick Bet-David?

  So if, if you knew that 100% of those dead zones are gonna be gone, would you switch to Starlink?

• 22:52Tom Ellsworth?

  I would paint my roof with, Elon, start here.

• 22:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you being sarcastic or serious?

• 22:56Tom Ellsworth?

  I am being serious, start here.

• 22:58Speaker 01

  Are dead zones that big of a problem for you here?

• 22:59Patrick Bet-David?

  When you're a businessman and you're a salesperson, you're on the phone with a client, you're trying to confirm, there's nothing more annoying than call drops, then you're down the street from the house, a business person's on the phone all the time. Not if you're a social media person, but a business person that's calling, talking all the time, that's a problem for me. Can we run a poll? Here's the poll. If Starlink eliminated 100% of the dead zones, would you leave AT&T, Verizon, and whoever you're with for Starlink? Yes, no? I'm just curious to know what people would say.

• 23:30Speaker 01

  My sister's, uh, my sister's AT&T.

• 23:32Patrick Bet-David?

  She's also AT&T.

• 23:33Speaker 01

  She's also AT&T.

• 23:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I've been with AT&T, I switched from AT&T to Verizon for two weeks. You know why I switched back to AT&T? One feature. Verizon would only let you do three-way with two people.

• 23:41Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 23:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And AT&T allows me to do three-way calls with five, six, seven people. And by the way, AT&T is screwed up, their three-way calls lately. It's been pretty bad lately. But something tells me AT&T's three-ways work at Cornell still right now.

• 23:55Speaker 01

  And let me ask you a question, Pat, so, so, and here's my, because we're always learning, Tom still loves that one. So, okay, so he's obviously, this is one of the reasons, remember, like, I think it was like a month ago, two months ago, I was asking, man, it's like every week Elon's launching something, and like, you don't even pay attention, every day they're launching, and launching, launching, launching. This is probably one of the reasons, obviously. But my, my question is, as the competitors, what is, what is AT&T, because think about it, how are their satellites up there, Pat? That goes through our government? Who's launching the AT&T, Verizon, you know, Sprint? Who puts all their stuff into the, into the orbit, Tom? Is it a deal with NASA? How are they launching? How, how is, how are they getting their stuff up there?

• 24:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, SpaceX is putting it up there.

• 24:38Speaker 01

  No, what I'm saying is, how is, uh, all the other carriers doing it? They have to go through NASA and somebody else, but...

• 24:44Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, the, the other carriers right now are terrestrial networks.

• 24:47Speaker 01

  Okay, so it's not even out there?

• 24:48Tom Ellsworth?

  It's all those triangular...

• 24:49Speaker 01

  Okay, so it's not even out there, so he's, he's...

• 24:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, there, there had, there've been things, Intelsat had some stuff up there, there was, there was some services that were up there, but they were like emergency services or marine services. If you've ever, take a look at SatPhone. Hey, guys, go look up a thing, just go look up on Satellite Phone 2025, and you're gonna see it's a square phone with a big antenna on it, it works very well for emergencies, it's very expensive, the SatPhones, and, um, yeah, see there?

• 25:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:18Tom Ellsworth?

  They're very expensive to use, but they're great if you're out there on, on the water and you have an emergency. Well, now he's like, ah, don't worry about that, let's just make it easy.

• 25:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Bro, you're gonna be on a plane, you can make phone calls. I mean, this is, for business people, this is incredible.

• 25:31Speaker 01

  So let me ask you a question, though. As, as the, as the other guys, what do you do to try to compete with them? How?

• 25:37Patrick Bet-David?

  It's too late.

• 25:38Speaker 01

  Okay, that's what I was gonna say, because he's everywhere.

• 25:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So the only thing, the only thing is, is people don't like change. And there's about an age you get to where you don't like to change products, because it's just habitual. It takes you a while to change away from certain things. There's people still that get physical newspapers that come in. Their age doesn't start with two.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  No, it doesn't.

• 25:58Patrick Bet-David?

  But their age may start with six. Okay, so there's certain people that have been with AT&T or Verizon for a long time that they'll switch. I'm not talking about Tom. This is not a Tom thing, because Tom is a technology guy, he'll switch with anybody that's making... So then, this is, this becomes the next question. The next question is the following. Sequencing. Elon is all about sequencing. First, put all the chargers everywhere, and then know that all your competitors need to use your chargers?

• 26:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Charger.

• 26:22Patrick Bet-David?

  And then you know, hey, come on, pay up, you know you're gonna need me.

• 26:24Tom Ellsworth?

  They cut deals with all of them, and they even modified their plugs to work on his chargers.

• 26:29Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. So here's the question, what is the likelihood, Tom, that sequencing, first, beat AT&T, beat Verizon, beat those guys, two, come out with a Tesla phone? What's the likelihood he comes out with a Tesla phone?

• 26:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Extremely.

• 26:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me a number.

• 26:41Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I think that it's 70% and rising every minute, because if you look, there has been a Tesla prototype, or like an X prototype, and a, I think you guys find it, guys? Guys?

• 26:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, Tom, keep talking, he'll look for it.

• 26:57Tom Ellsworth?

  But they've, they've done their, they've done their, their prototypes on it, and people have seen. There's been the Tesla phone, and there's been...

• 27:05Patrick Bet-David?

  So you think 70% they'll come out with something?

• 27:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think this is a teaser. I think this is, this is on the bench.

• 27:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So you know what this means? You know, you know who this is embarrassing for?

• 27:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, this is, I think this is not just a...

• 27:16Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you know who this is embarrassing for? One company. Nope, keep going, you're close. One company this is embarrassing for? Apple. So, so what, what Apple is doing is, Apple could've done this, they didn't do this. Apple stayed on the phone side. And Apple's flywheel, if you think on the flywheel side, Elon is expanding his flywheel. What is he doing with the flywheel? Buy the Tesla, buy Starlink, buy a phone, the phone talks to the car, he's gonna add his flywheel and expand it where somebody who owns a Tesla, like yesterday, I'm talking to a client, Matthew, and the entire time he's talking, it's a two-hour engagement with this client that I met through Minact, he's, I think he's about to sell his business

• 28:00Patrick Bet-David?

  for multi-billion dollars, very successful client of ours that we've been doing engagements for, for a while, and he's talking to me, he's sitting like this, and for about the first minute, I'm like, what is this guy doing? I see trees moving, everything moving, and I said, are you in a Uber? He says, no. I said, are you in a Tesla? The car is, I said, you're in the driver's seat? He says, yes. For two hours, he's in a driver's seat like this. He's just talking to me, car is taking a place.

• 28:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, he's on full self-drive?

• 28:27Patrick Bet-David?

  He's on full self-drive. So what, what, what Elon is doing is, he's building a full-on flywheel that's gonna get people to not be able to leave Tesla or have to go to get this phone if they switch and they do what we think is about to be done. Adam, your thoughts?

• 28:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I was actually just gonna go to this flywheel thing, because I wanna give a shout out to BDC, you've been talking about the concept... of a flywheel for a few years now. In one of the articles, it talks about Elon's flywheel and Humberto, I sent you that. If you're with us, it says. This move could with SpaceX could potentially fuel his flywheel between launch. Starlink and AI, and this is what I had. AI basically build out. This is Elon's flywheel, it would seem, where SpaceX launches the rockets. Starlink has the satellite internet. They this mobile company you're talking about, the likelihood of it. Basically being built is. Pretty certain at this point connects the phones. AI or they call SI these days. With the intelligence and that leads to revenue and scale, and then it all goes back again.

• 29:28Tom Ellsworth?

  This concept of a flywheel. You've been talking about this for years. It looks like Elon is implementing.

• 29:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Power, power, by the way, the poll says. If Starlink eliminated 100% the dead zones, would you switch 86% said yes? And the 14% that said no. Are the same people that want social security to continue. It's a it's a it's a very, the people that were are gonna want to switch. He's not just gonna give you better service. This guy's creative enough to think about what other things to do. By the way, for some of you guys that are watching this. If you think you're a business person, you want to get, if you're moving forward nowadays and you don't have a moat with your company. You're making a massive mistake because the market is very, very competitive and it's moving very, very fast. If you run a business, you want to find out how to identify a moat for your business and create your own flywheel. We do this for a living with different business owners from around the world.

• 30:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to bed David.com fill out the information below, schedule a time with one of our consultants, have a call. And we'll, we'll sit down, have a strategy session with you. We do this regularly. But, but the point is, what's next? What's next with this guy? Okay, what's next? This guy is, is. Almost building such a massive thing that every world, I'm talking to. A chief of staff of a world leader who's in the middle of a war right now. And one of their main concerns is the relationship with Elon. Not, not Trump. Because the way the guy described it, he says, we know Trump won't be here for two more years. We know Elon's gonna be a problem for the next 20, 30 years. So we better get on. So he is almost becoming.

• 31:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I hate to say this in a, and you gotta be, this could go very ugly, very nasty as well.

• 31:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Said this two years ago.

• 31:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, depending on where his core is, because the core is. He is, he is slowly becoming the world leader of all presidents. You don't have a choice.

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• 33:28Tom Ellsworth?

  They gotta come to him. He doesn't need to go to them.

• 33:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So forget about like, hey, I'm the 42nd president of the United States. Like, okay. You all. Report to me and, and you all need what I have to offer because I'm doing a better job than a government is doing. If he builds this into that. Listen, this is a very, very different direction this could go to. If the guy's got any evil tendencies in the inside. Phew, just, you know what I'm saying?

• 33:54Speaker 01

  But, but thank, but for, for what it, for the face value right now. I love that he's at least leaning on the conservative mindset of all this woke nonsense, especially the stuff that happened with his. Son, daughter now, and but look at the flywheel I just did. Ready for this? Rockets, SpaceX, boring company drilling into everything. Neuralink, Tesla, cell phones in the future, robots, X, Twitter to X. He's literally. Taking over. And I'm telling you right now, if he turns sour, Tom, if he gets pissed off. It's, it could go ugly very.

• 34:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Very quickly.

• 34:31Speaker 01

  Very fast.

• 34:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Very quickly.

• 34:32Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, you brought up Apple. There's something very interesting. The Vision Pro is their mixed reality headset, you know, like kids and gaming and you and me could go into Facebook with and all that crap. Right? Do you know what the last major product category was before that? Because that's a new category. They've never done those before. Was AirPods. Do you know what, what year AirPods was?

• 34:53Speaker 01

  I mean, that's at least five years ago, at least.

• 34:55Tom Ellsworth?

  2000, you're right, 2016. It's 10.

• 34:58Speaker 01

  10 years.

• 34:58Tom Ellsworth?

  And then before that, it was the Apple Watch 2015.

• 35:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Apple is not looking good right now.

• 35:03Tom Ellsworth?

  This is the point you made, Pat. 2015 watch, 2016 AirPods. 2024 Vision Pro and now 2026 next year, they're gonna come out with home hub. Okay, fine, but that's hardly. It's hardly like a ma- major category.

• 35:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you know, I'm talking to a, a, a. Couple publishers right now about writing a book specifically on flywheel. We've talked about that because I talked about this at the vault, I don't know, two or three years ago. We indirectly build a flywheel and PHP we build a flywheel that eventually are like, hey. You can choose to leave, but good luck having the format that we have put together. It's not easy to create. But you, you know, you, you want to be able to do that. I think right now, if you were to score the most powerful flywheel in the world, I would still put Apple number one. I would put Amazon number two, okay, because they, they have some. But I'm telling you, very quickly Elon's flywheel could pass everybody up very quickly. And some people may even put him right now ahead of Amazon Bezos as his flywheel. It could change.

• 36:05Tom Ellsworth?

  What is Jeff Bezos's flywheel?

• 36:06Patrick Bet-David?

  He's got, he's got a massive flywheel of what Amazon does. And then he's got the. Servers on the other end with. AWS, you know, he's got, he's got so many different things going on, but Disney was a great flywheel, but they were top 10 flywheel. They've been screwing up the last few years. Hopefully the new.

• 36:23Tom Ellsworth?

  When did you learn about this concept of a flywheel? Because I didn't hear you talk about this.

• 36:28Patrick Bet-David?

  25 years ago, when I'm selling insurance, one of my leaders told me. You know, you want to be able to create a centers of influence relationships. And I'm like, centers of influence? He says, yes. So then I said, centers of influence, what does that really mean? So. You're trying to sell insurance. I'm 23 years old. I build a relationship with this guy named Jamie Hep. I went and interviewed with him at 21 years old. He's probably gonna watch this. And for now, I was so impressed with him. I don't want to work for his company. I was leaving Morgan's, I was leaving Bally's. And he was one of the guys I interviewed him. I liked him. And so, you know, so I, I sat there and I said. I need to build relationships that are feeding me leads. So I went and built 25 relationships with performers that I knew I could never get to become insurance agents, but they were great.

• 37:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Relationship. One guy's then, one guy's then was Eli Daffish, another guy's then was Jamie Hep. It was all these like 25 guys. And every time I would take him out every quarter. I would go have lunch with them. I would take them and I would take the bill myself because I'm honored that you're giving me your time. And I would always hand him a book. And I wouldn't ask him for anything. I'm like, how can I help you? How can I help? What do you need from me? Eventually, not all of them did anything for me, but eventually some of them are like. You would benefit from talking to this guy. You would benefit from talking to that guy. Eli Daffish gave me 600 names. One of the names he gave me. Led to another guy that led to another guy, led to me making 50 million dollars. Off of one of the contacts that introduced me to. Jamie Hep introduced me to a guy that ended up being my branch guy, compliance guy for six, seven years, and he was phenomenal at what he did. So that became a flywheel that I knew.

• 37:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Every month, someone's gonna give me a good lead or good referral that's gonna turn into something. Dudley, he needed something from me. Dudley introduced me to Tom Ellsworth. And I don't meet Tom Ellsworth, life would be a lot more peaceful, but he introduced. He introduced me to Tom Ellsworth.

• 38:09Tom Ellsworth?

  You wouldn't be as rich.

• 38:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's have a respect for the money.

• 38:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Introduced me to Matt Sapala. Tom is one of my three best friends in the world I have right now, right? Because of Dudley. So. But those are, those are the relationship that you build and that was a small flywheel for an insurance guy. I'm a nobody. I'm just trying to build.

• 38:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Did you call it a flywheel then? When did you learn the word flywheel?

• 38:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Probably in the last 15 years, 10 years. It's not like.

• 38:34Tom Ellsworth?

  But I didn't hear you use the word flywheel until.

• 38:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, you haven't heard me use a lot of different words, you know, but.

• 38:39Tom Ellsworth?

  I've seen, I've seen garshuk, I've seen desalination.

• 38:43Tom Ellsworth?

  I've seen a lot of words from you, sir.

• 38:45Patrick Bet-David?

  That's never gonna go away. But so that was one of them that we did. And so, yeah. Anyways, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get into, my iPad is there and if we got a charger in the back, somebody can bring it.

• 38:56Speaker 01

  Machlata, come on, man. I thought one of these actually does.

• 38:59Patrick Bet-David?

  These don't work. I need a charger and Mathew's not here. So. Let me go to the next story. The next story I want to get into is Porsche. And this is very, very interesting. While I'm doing this, if you can do me a favor and pull up. Mission, Mission M, I think it's called. Mission. Let me see if that's what it's called or not. Let me pull this up here. Oh, there it is. Okay. Do me a favor, type in Mission S Force, Mission S. Porsche, just type that up. So. Porsche decides to hire a new CEO. This CEO back in the days used to work at Porsche for about 10 years or so. He leaves Porsche and he goes to. Ferrari. He becomes the CTO of Ferrari for like four years.

• 39:41Patrick Bet-David?

  After he becomes a CTO of Ferrari, he goes and becomes a CEO of McLaren, does a great job. Now, for Porsche ends up. Hiring him back as the CEO of Porsche. So remember, this guy's used to be with Porsche. Goes to Ferrari CTO, so he's a technical guy. Then goes to McLaren, two supercar companies. Then he comes to Porsche. Then he announces instead of selling and producing 330,000 cars per year because Porsche had a horrible year. 2025 horrible, their numbers were horrible on how much money they lost. He says, we don't need to produce 330,000 cars. Let's go to 200,000 cars, give or take. Then he says, when it comes down to our Porsche 911 Turbo S that we sold for a quarter of a billion dollar, give or take, we're going to raise the price on that by 20%. So he raised the price on

• 40:26Patrick Bet-David?

  that by 20% on what they're going to be doing. Then he says, the high-end premium cars that they do, Vinny, they want to 6X the amount of revenue they get, 6X the amount of revenue they get from their high-end premium cars. And when I say high-end premium cars, you can go customize, they have this one program, Tom, I don't know what it's called, Shine, there's something they have that, what is it called, that you develop your own Porsches, Vinny?

• 40:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Like Nike with their shoes?

• 40:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Gorgeous.

• 40:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, really?

• 40:54Patrick Bet-David?

  But you're spending $600,000 to $800,000 to design everything, interior, color, everything. You go to Porsche headquarters, you design it, you wait six to 12 months, 18 months, and it's only one car like that, and it's yours, that they designed. So it's a beautiful thing that they're doing. So they want to change some of that. Average selling price of top models will go, it's called Saunder Wunsch. Can you go to Saunder Wunsch Porsche and just go to images to show what they look like? They're gorgeous, Vinny. They're gorgeous. It's something I would do, and I'm in the process of entertaining, doing something like that. So then, outside of that, he announces that they're coming out with a new supercar, car called the Mission S, which I believe they're announcing it and revealing it on October 15th.

• 41:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Mission S?

• 41:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Mission S. If you can go to Mission S Porsche and show some of the pictures, it looks like the second one. Go to the second one. Yeah, right there. That's what it looks like.

• 41:46Tom Ellsworth?

  That's a Porsche these days.

• 41:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, look at that. Click on it to see what other images they have on there. You click on a link. Vinny, look at that. And so they're about to announce that, I think, October 15th, give or take.

• 41:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Top right, Humberto, top right, so I can see the back of it?

• 41:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so.

• 42:00Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, dude, that.

• 42:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Look, yeah, nobody knows if this is it or not, by the way. Some of these guys, they're teasing when they're releasing cars. And so, at the same time, guess what else they're announcing? They're roughly letting go of 9,000 of their employees, 40% fewer management position, 20% lower development and sales costs, costs in part of the organization. So their long-term target is 15% of operation margin compared to just 1.1% in 2025, after the EV strategy problems, China's weakness and restructuring costs. So they had a big EV launch that they did. What was it called? The car was called Taycan. I don't know what the car was called.

• 42:38Tom Ellsworth?

  That was it. It was the Taycan, and that was the.

• 42:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Massive flop, Vinny. Massive flop.

• 42:43Tom Ellsworth?

  All-electric, very beautiful, but electric and disaster.

• 42:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Some people are worried, and I want to talk to Tom, because, folks, one thing about Tom that he knows, if you spend an hour with Tom, and you talk cars, like this car that I bought, the Ferrari, the McLaren, what is it, the Senna car that we bought from a museum in Italy, Arten Senna's cars, those are the actual tires he raced with, just so you know. I have the steering wheel of my house. I was introduced to race cars by Tom. Of course, I know race cars, but I don't know Formula One. Tom introduced me to Senna, and then we ended up naming our oldest daughter, Senna, after Arten Senna, right? His last name is my daughter's first name. So, Tom, some of the people that follow cars very religiously, they don't know if they like this idea. Some are

• 43:27Patrick Bet-David?

  excited about it, but some people who are Porsche, true Porsche people, are saying, I don't know if you, I want you to turn my Porsche into Ferrari. What do you think about the strategy the new CEO is launching?

• 43:39Tom Ellsworth?

  I think they, I like the strategy. And the reason I like the strategy is he's coming right out of the Porsche pedigree. He started at Porsche. He has seen the rest of the supercar markets. And nowadays, the performance needs to have a flagship. You need to have that one thing that's out there. That's why Ferrari has the LaFerrari, it had the Enzo, it had, you know, the F50. You have to have this one car up there at the top for the very, very few. It is the flag, that is the flagship of your fleet. And what he's talking about here is you're going to have the flagship, and he's going to take some of the high-volume stuff out. And you know what he's

• 44:17Tom Ellsworth?

  really saying? Hey, the high-volume stuff, we'll let the, we'll let AMG, the Mercedes AMG C-Class, and we're going to let BMW 3-Class, 2-Class. We're going to let them all do that, but we're going to go after this. And the word that is purist, the purist, if Dr. Ferry Porsche was still alive, he would be smiling. Because you're trying to keep pure what your product is and not go too broad. What he's saying is, let's not go so broad, let's focus, and we'll have these cars, and we'll have the supercar here. Porsche will live to fight another day, because right now,

• 45:00Tom Ellsworth?

  what they've been trying to do, they had two problems. They tried to fight with high volume. So you had to go down to Cayenne, you had to go down, you know, market to go attract people into it, number one, with volume. Number two, they bought into all of the BS about going green in Europe. They bought into that with all the electric, and it was a disaster. So what he's doing, Pat, he's correcting two problems at once. We're stepping back from electric, we may still have hybrids, but we're stepping back. And we are also thinning out the product line, and you know what also we're doing? We're thinning out management. We're going to be closer to the customer, we're going to be closer to the product. So he's using this opportunity to,

• 45:45Tom Ellsworth?

  with the EV.

• 45:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you like it?

• 45:47Tom Ellsworth?

  I like it a lot, because I think it brings down the purity of Porsche. Look, you know, I'll say this out loud, I'm either the best dad ever, or the dumbest dad ever. When my daughter turned 16, and she demonstrated she was a safe driver and everything, I bought her a Porsche Macan. A three-year-old Macan, beautiful Miami blue, she loves it. We still have it. She goes to school at a place where you can't have a car on campus, and so I'm looking forward to it not being in the garage.

• 46:14Patrick Bet-David?

  No community college, that's what you do, but go ahead.

• 46:16Tom Ellsworth?

  And but you know what? I love it. And you know what I'm looking at right now? I mean, we know what I drive on Fridays, and we know what my, where my heart is.

• 46:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Just say it.

• 46:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Chickmagnon it. Let's do it, Tom.

• 46:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom drives a Ferrari. And by the way, we created, no joke, I'm not even kidding with you. Can somebody contact HR and tell us about the launch that we did with the speed bumps and putting Tom's picture on it, saying, Tom, slow down?

• 46:37Tom Ellsworth?

  The biz bump.

• 46:38Patrick Bet-David?

  We intentionally built speed bumps, the annoying kind on our campus.

• 46:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Horrible. They're mountains. They're mountain bumps.

• 46:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom would drive 60 miles from one side of the hangar to the other side of the hangar.

• 46:49Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, it's a runway, so.

• 46:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, am I lying?

• 46:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Guilty as charged. Yeah, license and registration, please. But what I'm looking at right now, I'm telling you, I go back and I love Porsche, I love the car. And I'm looking at right now as a daily driver, picking up as an extra vehicle, like a 2012, the 997.2. 997.2 was the updated, different engine, you didn't have the shaft bearing problem, there's all these things. But the point I'm mentioning out like that, because people that know Porsche are nodding right now as they're listening to the podcast, saying, you're right. The purity of the 911 and the evolution of the 911 and everything, I think this is great. No EV, focus on the great cars,

• 47:31Tom Ellsworth?

  build the flagship up there for everything else. And you know what? Porsche lives to fight another day with the same purity that they had in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.

• 47:43Speaker 01

  I have a question for you.

• 47:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, go for it.

• 47:45Speaker 01

  Not the car, guys, I'm not even trying to insert my opinion here. We were at Casa D'Angelo the other day, and remember, we got dropped off, and I was like, look at this car, beautiful, it's incredible green Porsche. It was actually the first time I was like, wow, I really like this car. Here's my question for you, Pat. Where does Porsche rank in the top 10 of luxury car brands?

• 48:07Patrick Bet-David?

  What does who?

• 48:08Speaker 01

  Where does Porsche rank in the top 10 of luxury, you know, you have Rolls Royce, you have Aston Martin, you have Mercedes.

• 48:17Patrick Bet-David?

  It's all in the eye of the beholder, but I would tell you, as a lug, like you put Ferrari, McLaren.

• 48:22Speaker 01

  For all that, where does Porsche rank?

• 48:24Patrick Bet-David?

  At least, some people would say top three, but some would say top five.

• 48:27Speaker 01

  I want to know what you think. Because you've had a Ferrari, you've had a Corvette, you've had a Lamborghini.

• 48:32Tom Ellsworth?

  You've had a Chevette.

• 48:33Patrick Bet-David?

  I drive a Porsche Turbo 911 Turbo S, it's my favorite car of all time, and I buy back-to-back every time a new one comes, I buy a new one. I will always have a Turbo, as long as Porsche doesn't go woke, I will always have a Turbo S in my garage.

• 48:46Speaker 01

  So no Jaguar these days?

• 48:47Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, Jaguar's Vinny. It's not, it's not a Jaguar, Vinny likes Jaguar, he worked with the CMO.

• 48:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Above a payback, above a

• 48:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I had, by the way, I

• 48:57Tom Ellsworth?

  What kind of Bugatta you got, like, type of thing? Like, you're saying Porsche's in your top?

• 49:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, this is to, this is the way to look at cars.

• 49:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 49:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, and I'm, and I'm being, my guys would ask me and they would say, "What kind of a car do you see me in?" And I said, "Matt belongs in a Rolls Royce." He does. Matt's a Rolls Royce guy. Vargas was a Ferrari guy. He just looks perfect for Ferrari, right? It's, it's the personality of what I see the individual driving. Okay, and I think cars, you know, when, you ever see somebody, date someone, you're like, "You guys don't look like, they don't look like they"

• 49:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Match.

• 49:35Patrick Bet-David?

  That, that just doesn't add up.

• 49:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, he's just got a lot of money.

• 49:37Patrick Bet-David?

  You ever see some, like, imagine if Shaq came out of a Mini Cooper? So you have to, the character of the individual,

• 49:45Tom Ellsworth?

  The look.

• 49:45Patrick Bet-David?

  The character of the individual,

• 49:47Tom Ellsworth?

  He needs a lot of help.

• 49:48Patrick Bet-David?

  The character of the individual matches the car. And the car says something about you.

• 49:53Tom Ellsworth?

  What does it say?

• 49:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Really? Are you being serious?

• 49:56Tom Ellsworth?

  I want to know your opinion.

• 49:57Speaker 01

  He's in an Uber, though. What does it say about Adam? He's in an Uber.

• 50:00Patrick Bet-David?

  You're driving an Uber says something about you.

• 50:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I'm not driving the Uber.

• 50:03Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, but, but taking Ubers is a form of saying something. I want to be nimble. I don't want to be committed and tied to anything.

• 50:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Outdoor cat.

• 50:09Patrick Bet-David?

  But that, no, that's, but that's what it says of somebody. But to me, anybody that drives a car, it says something about that individual.

• 50:16Tom Ellsworth?

  What does it say about you that drive a Porsche?

• 50:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Porsche?

• 50:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 50:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I want the full experience of driving 200 miles an hour if I want to, but I want the day-to-day luxury, smooth experience. That's Turbo S. That's Turbo S. I can't afford to go get any of the crazy cars out there. I, I drove an SF90. I didn't like it. I had a 450i Italia. I loved it. I had a Lamborghini Aventador. Jen would never go on a date in that car because the car was uncomfortable. Had the i8s, had the Dons, had all these other things. Porsche Turbo, like, Tom and I were talking about him getting to California. Every time I see Tom in California, it's perfect. That's Tom. To get out of California. It's a beautiful car.

• 50:56Tom Ellsworth?

  What's your favorite car ever? If you can only have one car to drive.

• 50:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So when I drive right now.

• 51:00Tom Ellsworth?

  That's your favorite car?

• 51:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Not even close.

• 51:01Tom Ellsworth?

  It's the Porsche?

• 51:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to understand Porsche Turbo, Porsche 911 Turbo S.

• 51:05Tom Ellsworth?

  That's you.

• 51:05Patrick Bet-David?

  It's the perfect car. It's the perfect, anyways, let's go to the next story.

• 51:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Porsche, there is no substitute.

• 51:10Patrick Bet-David?

  There, there, it's really a very, very special, uh, car to have. Let's go to the next story. Next one I want to get to is Microsoft and other companies suspended from, uh, after, uh, the green card programs. If you can pull up the clip with J.D. Vance, I'm going to get into a couple of these things. So Vance gets furious with Microsoft because Microsoft just laid off 6,000 US workers while filing 6,000 H1B visa petitions and obtaining roughly 3,000 green cards. 80% of its 6,000 H1B visa filings were extensions or status changes for existing employees. Microsoft says it pays the H1B visa workers the same as comparable US employees and says its H1B visa wages are amongst the highest in tech.

• 51:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And J.D. Vance is not buying it, and here's what he had to say. Go for it.

• 51:57Tom Ellsworth?

  There has been no company in the United States, unfortunately, that has abused this system more than Microsoft. And let me just give you a couple of statistics on this. So, in the last year, Microsoft, and I want to be clear about the data here, so let me check this. But Microsoft laid off last year 6,000, 6,000 American workers. At the same time, the company benefited from 6,300 H1B visas and almost 3,000 green cards. In other words, if you do the math, for every worker that Microsoft laid off, they replaced that worker with one and a half foreign indentured servants. Now, that is a scandalous system that we've allowed in this country for far too long. But thanks to the work of this task force and thanks to the empowerment of the President of the United States, we're going to stop it.

• 52:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Because thanks to an ongoing investigation, we have decided to suspend the perm program for Microsoft, which means they will no longer be able to apply, uh, their, they'll no, no longer be able to take those H1Bs and apply for permanent resident status within the United States of America. Now, our message to Microsoft and to any other foreign or domestic corporation is quite simple. We obviously want you to thrive in the United States of America. We want people to invest in the United States of America, particularly the American technology sector. We are the biggest boosters of your industry. We want you to continue to grow and to employ a lot of people, but we want you to employ American workers. And so our message to Microsoft is, you're a great American company, but you've got to hire great American workers.

• 53:27Tom Ellsworth?

  You cannot lay off American workers and then replace them with foreign indentured servants.

• 53:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, do you agree with them?

• 53:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, I do, and I was to say this. Let me tell you, you know, you know how you level a, a garage? I, I heard this once. And it says, you put plastic tape all the way around it, and then you just, uh, fill the floor with a little bit of water, because the water will find its level. What do I mean? I'll tell you. Businesses will go in the direction of incentive, wouldn't you say, Pat? And entrepreneurs will go in the, the direction of, of path of least resistance, generally speaking. And entrepreneurs will, will, will take the challenge to cover a gap.

• 54:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Excuse me. This is the problem. We showed this the other day. This is the Visa flywheel. You put this flywheel out there, and business like Microsoft is going to use it. That's what happened. And this blue flywheel, where, guess what? H1B turns the spouse to an H4, they open an LLC, and that's exactly what was happening at Microsoft. You could see companies that were supplying 20 to Microsoft here, 20 to Microsoft there. And so they're looking at it, stop it. But you know where Washington needs to stop it? Right here. It's not about stopping Microsoft, it's about stopping a program that's being exploited. And if you don't like the way, it's like when, when Hillary said,

• 54:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Great take.

• 54:52Tom Ellsworth?

  You're using, you're using tax loopholes for everything. And what did Donald Trump say?

• 54:58Patrick Bet-David?

  You change it.

• 54:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, I am!

• 54:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Do something about it.

• 55:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Just like your donors do. Change it. So, we need to change this.

• 55:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Why aren't they? Why aren't they, Tom?

• 55:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Why aren't they doing this?

• 55:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 55:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I think there's, there's, there's money in it, and there's also liberals like the backdoor for foreign workers. They don't like the, they don't, the globalists love this.

• 55:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 55:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Globalists love this. Backdoor for foreign workers love this. People, that's who loves this.

• 55:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so let me, let me ask this question. Say, J, so, by the way, what, what I like about what J.D. is doing, here's what I like about what J.D. is doing. Each president becomes a policy president. Like, if you go to Obama, Obama became what? The healthcare president, right? Obamacare, okay. If you go to Bush, Bush became the what? Uh, uh, the son, not the father. Bush became wartime president, 9/11, you know?

• 55:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Biggest legislation he had was the Patriot Act.

• 55:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Patriot Act, that's right.

• 55:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Security and homeland security.

• 55:56Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, some people would say that wasn't necessarily anything good long-term.

• 56:00Tom Ellsworth?

  And it also brought us DHS and airport security.

• 56:03Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so then, what do you call Trump? What kind of a president was he? He was what? He was a, what president would you say?

• 56:09Tom Ellsworth?

  So far,

• 56:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Border, security?

• 56:12Tom Ellsworth?

  He's been the America First president, who's, who had issues with tariffs, but closed the border as promised almost immediately.

• 56:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm going to tell you this. If J.D. Vance drives this as one of his top three, there are a lot of people that agree with him on this. There, there, there are a lot of people that agree with him on this, and he should make this his blue ocean strategy. He should make this his blue ocean strategy. He should, if, if he doubles down on this and wham, wham, wham, every time, i, i, if, if he goes to the president and say, "Hey, let me have a victory here." Okay, and his victory is he's able to make some changes to the H1B visa, and he goes on a campaign trail, and he says, "Here's what I did. I'm the one that came up with XYZ legislation, and because of that, we were able to get Microsoft, instead of hiring 28,000 people from this to bring 28,000 American jobs,

• 57:00Patrick Bet-David?

  and we created this many jobs, and then with this company, and that company, and this company." That is a very good top-three issue of America First message that he can give. That's different than Trump's position.

• 57:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 57:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So I think, I think there's a very good opportunity here for J.D. to do this, because I think there's a lot of guys that would love to see this happen with him.

• 57:18Tom Ellsworth?

  An executive order, let's, let's take away the H4. Let's take away the ability to make an LLC and then process H1Bs. Let's lower the number of H1Bs. Let's do it at the federal. Because remember, remember when Billy Bean walks in, uh, into the office and he says, "Listen, tonight," says, "I want Hattie, Hattie at first." And he says, "The lineup card's mine. This is over. I got Pena in first." "I don't think so."

• 57:44Speaker 01

  Why's that?

• 57:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Pena plays for Detroit.

• 57:46Speaker 01

  You traded Pena?

• 57:47Tom Ellsworth?

  That's exactly right. Now you want, you want J.D. Vance to say to Microsoft, "No more of the H1Bs. Hey, we're going to use the laws as are written." "I don't think so. Why? The H1B law's been moved to Detroit."

• 57:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, what do you have?

• 57:59Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what you need.

• 58:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, smart.

• 58:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I think this is right up J.D. Vance's alley. I, I, I'll give, I'll give a plod, and then I'll give some criticism. I, I, I, I think, in many ways, J.D. Vance, when it comes to foreign policy, is in over his head. I don't, I generally don't know if he's best skilled with that compared to someone like Marco Rubio. Rubio's running circles around him. I will give J.D. Vance credit. When it comes back to this H1B situation, even though his wife is Indian, keep that in mind, and, and the vast majority of H1Bs are Indian, he's pretty, he's pretty hardline on this. Bringing back American jobs, protecting the American workers. Understand the word that he kept using. Indentured servants. That's, that, that's a word he used multiple times. That's one step up above a slave.

• 58:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Indentured servitude. Do you know the definition of an indentured servant? It's usually someone who commits to a, a specific time period. It's usually seven years, where you, you're legally bound by a contract in exchange for work, in exchange for basically paying your bills, your housing, your transportation, and basically eliminating debt. That concept of basically importing these foreign workers, I don't know that, what they have to do, holding their passport, holding their visa, seven years, whatever that is, that servitude comes with a price. By the way, it's like that, to give you the fact, it is like that. They can't work for any other company.

• 59:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Because that company holds the H1B, which is how they work here.

• 59:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 59:26Patrick Bet-David?

  They're stuck.

• 59:26Tom Ellsworth?

  And at the end of the day, we're saying that they're importing, I think you said the number of 6,000 imported workers, at the expense of 6,000 American workers.

• 59:35Patrick Bet-David?

  More.

• 59:35Tom Ellsworth?

  So if J.D. Vance wants to own that America First lane, I think he can do a damn good job doing that domestically.

• 59:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, if I'm his guy in his corner, I'm like, dude, keep hitting this. Keep hitting this. Keep hitting this. I think it's a very, by the way, what we like is here, my frustration with Byron Donalds was, I want to see us debate issues because I think it makes everybody tighter and we all have blind spots. Right? I like that J.D.'s gonna have, hopefully, this is one of his top three issues because it'd be interesting to see what Rubio did. Rubio had a phenomenal moment yesterday when they're talking about Kimberly Guilfoyle. He's like, what are you talking about? I'm not gonna play this game with you. By the way, if you have that clip in the back, I don't even want to get into this clip. I just want to show you to the audience that there's two good qualified guys going into 2028.

• 1:00:22Patrick Bet-David?

  And I really like the way Marco Rubio handled himself there, saying, I don't play this game with you. You don't get to do this with us and ask us questions like this to pin us against each other. I'm not gonna do this. He's establishing and managing the expectation with media. This is how you deal with me. I'm not one of these guys you come and try to scare off and put me in a corner knowing what article you're gonna write on me. I've been around the block for a couple of decades. You're not gonna do this to me. Just watch how we, single-handedly, handle this one journalist. Go for it.

• 1:00:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Press the button.

• 1:00:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Guys, I'm not playing this game with you, okay? You guys write a story and then your editors tell you, be sure you get a comment from him on something we haven't seen. Okay, you guys are not gonna be our only source of information in the world. I'm sorry to tell you that. And so I want you to understand, no, that's not the way the process is gonna work. Well, first of all, the process doesn't work like this. We don't conduct these things in a press conference, on a tarmac, in a foreign country, because you wrote a story or somebody else wrote a story because some source gave it to you. So get that out of your head, because that's never the way it's gonna work with me. It's a game that's been played for a long time, but it's not a game we're gonna play. We're conducting serious business here.

• 1:01:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what I like? You can pause it right there. I don't want commentary on this. I just want to show the fact that J.D. Vance is doing what he's doing, and he's doing what he's doing. And guess what? I want both of these guys to be in the race in 2028. The Republican Party needs both of them in the race for 2028. You have to understand what happens. These guys, like yesterday, there was a debate between Mike Rogers and Abdul El-Sayed, if I'm saying his name correctly, because I want to give respect to both of them. And in one of these exchanges, Mike Rogers goes on and he's challenging him. He always calls himself a physician. You're not a physician. You're a doctor. You only did this four years. You keep talking about 10 years. He didn't do 10 years. And he's calling him out, right? He keeps playing this game of what he's got going on.

• 1:02:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You need these, like, as of yesterday, what percentage of you had ever watched a video or clip of Mike Rogers? If you're watching this, do me a favor. Who that's watching a podcast right now, can you run this poll real quick? Who has ever seen a clip of Mike Rogers?

• 1:02:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Never, me.

• 1:02:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me say it again. Who has ever seen a clip of Mike Rogers, how he presents himself on the big stage? Run the poll, please. Say, never have, maybe once, many. Those are the three options, if we can run the poll in the back. I want you to watch this clip and tell me if you're impressed by this guy. Just watch him. See if you like the way he handled himself in this specific clip. There's a lot of different clips of going against Abdul El-Sayed, which is the Michigan debate that's taking place. Go for it.

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• 1:05:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Just wants to do, is he's kind of like a glitchy AI chatbot, is say the same thing over and over and over again. But let me tell you this. He has taken money from groups associated in support of the Muslim Brotherhood. He has taken money from individuals on his campaign who openly support Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda. He's taken money from the George Soros family. What we found out is that this thing goes way back. Apparently, they paid for his education in Colombia.

• 1:05:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Weird.

• 1:05:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Now they're paying for his campaign. By the way, that's a billionaire, last I checked.

• 1:05:45Tom Ellsworth?

  What degree did I get at Columbia?

• 1:05:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna give you a 30-second rebuttal.

• 1:05:48Tom Ellsworth?

  What degree did I get at Columbia?

• 1:05:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I get interviewed by him, not by you.

• 1:05:51Tom Ellsworth?

  As a doctor, I understand exactly what's happening.

• 1:05:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Not a physician.

• 1:05:55Tom Ellsworth?

  I like to say the same thing. He says, I like to say the same thing. He's done the same thing over and over and over again. You know what that is? Vote to keep your prescription drug prices high. 19 times a million dollars alone from Big Pharma. Another million dollars from the health insurance corporations. Of course, he is touting their talking points. This is a guy who has not been serious about providing people health care his entire career. What he has been serious about is making sure that he can monetize his time in public office. $14 million, two yachts, a McMansion in Florida. So at the end of the day, I'm a doctor. I want people to have health care.

• 1:06:26Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, 30 seconds. We're gonna move on after this. 30 seconds. Let me, how does a guy who's had less than four years of work experience, who, by the way, on the campaign trail said he had 10, own a luxury property in the United Arab Emirates? He's worth a million bucks. Somebody has to tell me how this math works. A, his facts are wrong. Those are lies. But he is consistently not telling the truth. Well, let me just say it. He's lying. So he lied about being a physician. He lied now about being an Egyptian citizen or not being an Egyptian citizen. I can't figure out what he is today. But this, this impacts what he's trying to tell you, where he wants you to be. That's a con man. What, my friend here?

• 1:07:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it right there. Now, I'm, of course, showing this clip because this is the clip that showed up on my algorithm. I was impressed by the way he handled himself. But Abdul El-Sayed is also very good on camera. So he knows how to handle himself great as well. We need more Republicans that have the brass to go debate, especially those that are running for office. Specifically, you're running, you want my vote. You want my vote. We need more of them to go out there and debate others, to present their arguments. And I like that J.D. is going out there saying H1B visa. And I like that Marco Rubio is saying, hey, this relationship with media, you're not gonna play the game with me. We need more of this, because on the back end, let me give you a stat, and this is kind of leading me into this one conversation I want to have with you guys.

• 1:07:51Patrick Bet-David?

  As a parent of four, my two girls are running around here. Umberto, if you can show one of the clip, pictures of my daughters that came into the office. They've been here with me today, and in the morning, I'm doing my five-mile bike ride that I do every single morning, and my baby Brooklyn comes in and she says, can I come to the office? Senna wants to come to the office. Can you zoom in with the pictures of shirts? One of them has a shirt on that says Daddy's Number One Road Dogg. That's her. She always wants to go places with me. And Brooklyn's got a shirt that says Daddy's Fireball, okay? And they're in the office right now running around with Alicia doing their things. Let me tell you what happened. A stat comes out. And what is the stat from CDC? In 2021 during COVID, 30% of ninth grade girls identified as lesbian.

• 1:08:37Patrick Bet-David?

  That number has dropped from 30% in 2025 to 17%. A 13% drop off. Why? Why? It's so, the, the, the, the left is so worried that some of the folks are like, well, let's not jump to conclusion on why this is and the reasonings for it. It's probably because of, you know, this, and we don't even know if these numbers are right or wrong and all this other stuff. Why did you go from 30% to 17%? The biggest decline appears to be in the bisexual identification. The rate among boys has been comparatively stable and the sharpest movement is among younger teenage girls, not older teens. Why? They're more impressionable. So you want to get them there to confuse the hell out of them? Why do you want to do that? Why do you want to do that?

• 1:09:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Jean Twenge, uh, from San Diego State Psychology Professor analyzed the CDC data, called it a free fall. But she also explicitly said the cause is unclear. Oh, really? You want us to buy it's unclear? Give me a flip and break. It's because of the pandemic isolation, then all of a sudden I become gay or lesbian. Oh, changing of social norms, social media influence, political climate, changes in how teenagers use labels, or maybe because you were trying to indoctrinate. I don't have a problem if you're lesbian, gay, bisexual, whatever you are. I had a phenomenal dinner with Kevin Spacey two days ago. Last night or two days ago? Was it, maybe it was last night. Two days ago. Phenomenal dinner. I don't care who you like.

• 1:10:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I, we sat there, we laughed, we told stories, learned about his father, learned about the fact that the guy did a

• 1:10:09Patrick Bet-David?

  went to school with Val Kilmer. They've been best friends since 13 years old. They went to the same high school, Chatsworth High School. And they did this one play and then Val told them, you gotta get into acting, come get your ass over to New York. They went to the same acting school. Val Kilmer graduated two years earlier. You know, Kevin Spacey drops out, then he starts doing all these Broadway shows, then one guy notices how great talented he is. Then he goes and does Usual Suspects, one of the greatest movies of all time, Kazir Soze. I admired the guy's gifts. So this isn't like, well, you're, you know, what is it, something phobic? No, no. Here's my problem. Let adults make that decision. Not kids. If Adam's 18, he wants to be gay, it's not my business. If he does. It's not my, if he chooses at 47 years old to come in and say, Pat,

• 1:10:54Patrick Bet-David?

  I've met my lover, his name is Larry. That's his business.

• 1:10:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I won't be upset. Likelihood of that happening is slim, but it's not my business. But if you start talking to third graders, ninth graders, stay the F out of our kids' ways. FYI. Pat, why are you talking? How did you go from J D Vance, Marco Rubio, Abdul Al-Sai, Mike Rogers to this story? Let me tell you why. Conservatives? If you, all you start thinking about is your strategic reasons for run or not to run, we're on a crusade right now.

• 1:11:28Patrick Bet-David?

  One of these guys gets elected, all this bullshit's coming back. And they're gonna get hold of your kids. And most, most people, you can be conservative, most people cannot afford to put their kids in private school. It's expensive. Very expensive. So there's a level of urgency of knowing this is not the time to play games of dodging debates or dodging this or dodging that. Play offense. Talk about the stuff we stand for. Talk about the stuff we're excited about. Talk about the stuff that makes good families. Raises healthy kids. Encourage people to have a lot of kids. If you hang out with me, I'm a bad influence, you're probably gonna have four kids or more. If you're somebody that's with me, working with me, I'm gonna tell you to have a lot of kids. So for me, when I saw this data, Vinny, your reaction when you saw how

• 1:12:12Patrick Bet-David?

  LGBT ninth grade girls went from 30% identifying as lesbian to all of a sudden uh, 17%, 16%? This is it, by the way, that chart. Go ahead.

• 1:12:21Speaker 01

  How many times are you gonna hear on this podcast, words talk, numbers scream? Okay? And what we're seeing is when the cultural pressure comes off, this is what happens. Just, just think, guys, really think about it. During the Biden administration, LGBTQ was freaking, the White House had massive pride celebrations. There was a transgender dude with breasts flashing on the White House lawn. A pride flag, uh, everything, transgender this. The administration was pushing it, pushing it. Uh, the vice, Kamala Harris bringing all these guys into the, into the White House and then in the schools and the libraries, fighting, by the way, fighting to keep these books. I forgot which book it was. It was an insane book that they were fighting to keep in there. I forgot.

• 1:13:05Speaker 01

  Alberta, I don't, I don't remember the name of it, but it was bad. And then also sprinkle in, you know, China with TikTok dumping all that, all that stuff, which they, we realized, oh my God, they're freaking brainwashing of the youth. And now look at the difference of what a strong president does. Okay, look, look at the difference, who's willing to stand up and completely change the direction of the country. The, the, the culture shifted. I, it's still unbelievable to me that Dylan Mulvaney, guys, remember how this dude was praised, he was freaking everywhere. Bud Light disaster, loses billions of dollars. Okay, now, where is he? I think, I guess he's like doing some play, God knows, in like Uganda. I don't know where the hell he is. He's like, I'm still a girl.

• 1:13:47Speaker 01

  Nobody gives a damn, because they were pushing it down. They were, they were trying to force it on us. Too much, Pat. And all the, all the videos of the military, guys, I, when it comes to the military, and I'm sorry if you're out there and you're gonna be sensitive, I want killers. And as much as you don't wanna like, like, admit it, a few good men, when Colonel Jessup, uh, Jack Nicholson was like, you need me on that wall. You want, I want killers out there protecting us. You don't want, how many videos were these transgender guys in military uniforms dressing up as freaking dogs and getting like beaten with like, like, what, what are we talking about? Okay, and don't, don't ever, don't ever forget that. And, and I love that you made that point, Pat. We're not a fear porn podcast. But I'm telling you, all your other nonsense aside,

• 1:14:32Speaker 01

  they're trying to make like the left is this attractive, ooh, DSA free stuff. The day a Democratic president comes into office, if God forbid it happens in 2028, all this is coming back. And if you open your mouth, they're gonna shun you and they're gonna punish you. And the second thing is, the border that we're talking about, this Al-Sayyad and all this stuff, because all this Muslim brother and all that stuff, don't let, don't let that good looking, you know, smile, whatever fool you. It, there's a mission behind what these guys are trying to do and they're trying to bring it into this freaking country. Border open, disaster coming again if we let these people come into power. Period.

• 1:15:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, where, where are you at with this? As a father of two girls?

• 1:15:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I am on one simple page. Education causes everything. Indoctrination is a form of education. And when you indoctrinate and then you accept, you're telling kids who maybe just going through phases, maybe speculating to do it. And you're encouraging it. And you're encouraging kids that feel left out by social media, be, feel ostracized, don't have good socializations, to sit quietly and say, wow, maybe this is my problem. And we came out of COVID where we took all those kids out of school and we did it. And so now what's coming back, you know what's coming back? Not just common sense, but if kids were left to themselves, their natural order is coming back. Their natural things.

• 1:15:53Tom Ellsworth?

  This is really important. And what Pat said about, we're only one more guy coming in and it's all coming back. Look, this is an important election. And I'm gonna go hard right here. This is about turnout. Republicans, you gotta turn out. Conservatives, you gotta turn out. Independents that lean conservative, you gotta turn out. The early vote will always favor the Dems. They vote early more often, they have a ground game that clicked out. Yeah, yeah, there's some of that.

• 1:16:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Going on. The Republicans and the conservatives and independent who are conservative tend to vote in person and later. So don't be deceived by early counts. You need to be there. We need to be turning out for this election because your local representative could be a difference. Do I think we're gonna keep the House? Nope. Do I think we could keep the Senate? It's gonna be damn close, but I think we could, but it's gonna be very, very close. But it, this is what's hanging in the balance. You wanna have this conversation about, oh, I don't like what they're doing. I don't like what they've done. I love doing that. Well, then don't let them get back. in power turnout it's all about turnout and I'm because that's the weapon against this

• 1:17:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Pat I can explain what I think is happening but to stop it we all have to get active

• 1:17:07Patrick Bet-David?

  it's two things for me one is voter turnout Tom you know what the other thing is choose better candidates

• 1:17:13Tom Ellsworth?

  well that's on the party I know what I

• 1:17:15Patrick Bet-David?

  yeah I I totally get I totally get that with you to me it's put better candidates for us to get excited about I'm telling you Tom you know how we would do things Tom you and I what what this is not in we're not applying for a job trust me we don't this we're not interested but if we Tom ran the RNC we would have a list of 500 names and on the 500 names with a deep bench you know what we would look at their capabilities their ability to communicate their ability to get out there and do social media and be creative and funny and then arguments debating all of that stuff you would measure them and you would say here's the seven people to get behind and then some of the people you want them to run you gotta sell them on running

• 1:17:54Tom Ellsworth?

  that's right

• 1:17:55Patrick Bet-David?

  you got also go to certain people and say you gotta run I don't want to run I'm telling you gotta run the same way some people get phone calls and say I want you on the White House administration for this job and you're like I don't want this job three other people calling and tell you you gotta take this job you're doing it for your country I think it's also an era of us imposing a little bit and saying hey you may want to consider running Adam your thoughts on this

• 1:18:14Tom Ellsworth?

  well I think there's two parts of this story there's the the evidence that women are becoming less gay these ninth grade girls it was up to 30% last year or last administration now down to 17 almost cut in half the most shocking statistic though is about the boys the boys rates have stayed exactly the same for about a decade so this indoctrination of our youth through via TikTok and the feminist movement and the woke movement the LGBT and everything like that has permeated through women but it has not basically broken through through boys so here's the challenge you always see with boys is like men are struggling young men are struggling what's going on with young boys yeah they're struggling to make sense of what the hell is going on in this world with women because you hear things

• 1:18:57Tom Ellsworth?

  with toxic masculinity or or young men are afraid to even go up and talk to a girl God forbid you have sex with a girl she can accuse you of rape who knows what's going on so young men are like what the hell's going on here because I remember growing up a boy would like a girl and he asked her on a date and they go on a date these days young men are basically so intimidated by these feminist boss babes that they're trying to make sense of all this here's what I think is happening these young women especially uh you know via social media are so impressionable and I basically it's cool to be trans it's cool to be LGBT it's cool to identify with the cool crowd right it it at one point it was cool to be gay then it was cool to be trans trans was the new trend I believe you said Vinnie

• 1:19:39Patrick Bet-David?

  yeah

• 1:19:40Tom Ellsworth?

  the whole concept of feminism and boss babes and I don't need no man I don't even want a man because I'm gonna be pretend to be gay is a fallacy and I think that that the reality is with the Trump administration and basically defunding USAID and basically saying we're done with this woke nonsense there's two camps at this point there's the camp that's saying we're done with this and we need to have a normal traditional conservative value-driven life or woke 2.0 which AOC talks about and the average American if they're given a choice between woke 2.0 and common sense hopefully chooses common sense

• 1:20:13Patrick Bet-David?

  see the keyword in that sentence is what hopefully

• 1:20:16Tom Ellsworth?

  yeah

• 1:20:17Patrick Bet-David?

  hopefully which I bank on that by the way um can you pull up the poll from Kentucky on abortions here's here's a poll from Kentucky on abortions that came out if you can pull up the the poll you know which one I'm talking about on Twitter look at this here very interesting Kentucky abortions have dropped from 4,400 in a year to three

• 1:20:36Tom Ellsworth?

  great

• 1:20:37Patrick Bet-David?

  not 3,000 to three can you zoom in on the charts so people can see this so check this out in 2005 they were averaging 3,776 abortions next year 3900 then 4,000 it's ranging around 4,000 drops to 3,200 3188 then it goes back up record-breaking year to 4441 then drops to 2550 and then look what happens next drops to three

• 1:21:02Tom Ellsworth?

  wow

• 1:21:03Patrick Bet-David?

  three and then drug induced induced abortions drops to also the same number 10 9 and 5 total abortions how how did how did this happen what happened here is it policies is it the fact that we're no longer doing it at hospitals and then what do you do in some states that they say you can come and do that 24 weeks you can't come and do that what they they all because it's ran by states

• 1:21:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Massachusetts just just implemented a law where you can have an abortion up until the date of birth

• 1:21:32Patrick Bet-David?

  so the these are these are the types of things that for some people you know and by the way pro-life pro-choice this was a massive massive topic that took place with Roe v Wade when Supreme Court went the other direction a lot of people lost their minds when this took place but again what values are you wanting to support we have to keep driving because there is results trust me sometime when somebody becomes a president we expect 100% of that person's promises to become a reality you know how many times does this happen in the history of America zero no one's gonna keep 100% of promises you know why one they were campaigning on a couple of them to see what you liked two some of them wasn't there some of them was their people that said it 100% Epstein files

• 1:22:14Patrick Bet-David?

  that Cash Patel Trump never said that but Trump did say John F Kennedy assassination Trump did say 9/11 so you can hold them accountable to that then you can go to hey borders are gonna be closed he did it hey LGBTQ hey Roe v Wade and then Supreme Court tariffs Supreme Court no voter ID was top three on my list Supreme Court no there's a whole system behind this but the idea of does my vote even matter it it does it does except the I wish the base was it's like what the Yankees are doing right now I don't even want to go on a Yankees rant we'll do that at the end I got a lot of thoughts on the Yankees and I I don't know as a minority how much stuff I can't say I'm gonna give you some of my thoughts

• 1:22:54Patrick Bet-David?

  but your voter base is not happy with you Yankees now how many messages I get you guys have no clue what you're doing what the fuck I'm like dude I I get it and the voter base of the Republican Party wants to see you put out better products and let them compete don't choose your favorite kids too early who's gonna run the family one day I don't know I'm not gonna just pick one of my sons or no I don't know who's gonna be the leader but it's whoever's gonna set the best example as an individual and then that person becomes a leader of the family last night I'm having dinner at Casa di Angelo with three of our clients that we ended up partnering partnering up with and we own around 15% of the company

• 1:23:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I think this business is gonna sell for anywhere between a quarter of billion dollars to half a billion dollars and we're having dinner with them and it's three brothers okay and they build a beautiful business that's got a five and a half million dollar EBITDA when we met him it was like a one and a half two million dollar EBITDA it's gonna be a five and a half million dollar EBITDA this year I think next year they'll do 10 million in EBITDA and hey how are you guys close why do you guys get along well it used to be this and then it was this and then it was that and then it was this and then it was this let people compete to see who becomes the alpha don't cherry pick and endorse just because you're they're your favorites too early never pick your rabbits too early and I think the Republican Party is picking their rabbits a little too early and it's a mistake

• 1:24:18Patrick Bet-David?

  let them fight for it let them get their faces bloody that's how this thing works you're supposed to go get your asses handed to you and then somebody watches and says that guy's got it she's got it or they don't don't just say I like this guy because I have dinner with him he's gonna be my guy I think it's a mistake that the Republican Party is making and some people may say it's part of Trump because Trump is a guy that likes people that like him but we gotta let them fight a little bit more we gotta not like I you know when you build an insurance agent you kind of pick some people you like and I made the mistake I picked two guys that I liked a little too much and they weren't the ones they just weren't the two ones that wanted to build a company they did not want that kind of pressure so I backed off I'm like you're not the guys I'm going elsewhere and

• 1:25:01Patrick Bet-David?

  it was other people that were willing to take on the pressure so I think the Republican Party's gotta let some of these guys fight for the position instead of just be handed over to them there's nothing worse than you can do than give hand handouts to candidates I don't like handouts and entitlement programs I don't even like handouts to certain people that haven't earned the right to get the position get in the freaking arena get your ass handed to you get bloody you earned it that's your job go get it um let me get to the next story next story I want to get to is Fort Hood so did you guys see what Hexet said

• 1:25:32Tom Ellsworth?

  oh yeah I loved it

• 1:25:33Patrick Bet-David?

  so Hexet comes out and says wait let me get this straight you want to get out there and kill 13 of our soldiers hospitalized 32 of them and then we have to quietly do an execution no we're not doing that that's not how this is going to be I want you to watch this you you know who I'm talking about when this happened I think it's Fort Hood if I'm not mistaken Vinnie

• 1:25:56Tom Ellsworth?

  yep

• 1:25:57Patrick Bet-David?

  watch what Hexet had to say and the fact that they're doing a first public execution I believe since the world war I think it's World War II we haven't done this there's a and they want to livestream it at the same time that this happened the live public execution watch Hexet here go for it

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• 1:28:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Execution by firing squad. Army major betrays his country, radical Islamist, kills a bunch of Americans at Fort Hood. Of course, we're gonna do it at Fort Hood. And do it on a Thursday, we're gonna do it at 1 o'clock, which is when he did it. And it's gonna be soldiers with rifles executing the firing squad. It hadn't been since World War II since we've done that. Well, I kinda like the mentality we had in World War II, which was win. Which was, understand when the enemy attacks you, you need to stand your ground. So it was radical Islamist terror attack. Remember what Obama called it? Workplace violence? I mean, that's what we're up against. That's the worldview we're up against is workplace violence. That's crazy. CVE. We know what it is. It was a radical Islamist attack in uniform inside the ranks. And so he's gonna get a firing squad of soldiers, as it should be.

• 1:29:23Tom Ellsworth?

  And we'll make sure that people are able to watch it, that it's public. Because people need to understand that this is, there's serious consequences for these types of things.

• 1:29:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Has Major Hassan made any final request, reached out to the president, anything like that, to your knowledge?

• 1:29:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Don't care. We'll see him on December 3rd.

• 1:29:42Patrick Bet-David?

  December 3rd, Fort Hood. Ladies and gentlemen, Secretary of War Pete Hex says, thank you very much. That's part of the answer. Don't care. I don't care if you want pizza as your last meal. Don't care. I don't care if you want shawarma. I don't care if you want, you know, any kind of chicken, steak. Don't care. So, there's some people that are saying that's cruel.

• 1:30:05Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 1:30:06Patrick Bet-David?

  That's cold.

• 1:30:07Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:30:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Public execution, why would you wanna do this? And by the way, if they livestream it on YouTube, I don't even think YouTube's gonna allow it to be livestreamed, right? On something like this taking place. To all of you guys, run a poll, do you support public execution? Do you support public execution of the man who killed 13 soldiers and hospitalized 32? Vinnie, what do you stand?

• 1:30:29Speaker 01

  100%. You have to start sending a message, okay? And guess what? Some of these same type of people, this major and the Dalhassan, they're still here, they're in the United States, okay? Just to give everybody a heads up, because I know this was in 2009, November 5th. He's an Army psychiatrist and he's a major. I don't know if you guys understand the ranking level of this. You have to have a degree, you have to go through all the, you know, all the schooling to become an officer. He was, his job is to help American soldiers, okay, that are dealing with mental issues from serving in their country and all types of situations. He opened fire on his troops at Fort Hood, Texas, and he was shouting, "Allow Akbar",

• 1:31:10Speaker 01

  Pat mentioned it, 13 Americans, 32 wounded, many of, the majority of them were unarmed. One of his victims that I want people to remember was 21-year-old Army private Francesca Velez. She was pregnant, okay? Just came back from Iraq. Witnesses heard her crying on the floor about her baby. And this guy Hassan continued firing and shooting all the wounded soldiers on the, on the, on the ground. So investigators discovered that he had communicated with radical Islam cleric Anwar Al-Waqi before the attack. He admitted he had switched sides, which he considered the war against Islam. So, and here's my thing, I think, and I know people are gonna be like, "Oh, you're a Christian", listen, people say eye for an eye.

• 1:31:52Speaker 01

  In this type of situation with the enemy here, you have to show them what we're going to do. He's been alive, mind you guys, 17 years, sitting in a prison, your tax dollars are feeding him, are housing him, are giving him all his clothing and everything for 17 years. What about the 13 families? What about the 32 other people that have had injuries, they can't walk, they're paralyzed or whatever, that they live with that trauma? That a psychiatrist, they're probably seeing psychiatrists now because of what this psychiatrist, who they trusted, did to them, okay? And I love this message that this sends, Pat. Anybody thinking about committing a freaking terrorist act against Americans need to understand something. The consequences are serious. You don't get to kill American citizens, betray the country, and then sit in a jail

• 1:32:37Speaker 01

  cell like this, forever, okay? And if you're gonna, Pat, that's my thing, streamline this thing. If you're convicted and you have the death penalty, what are we waiting for 17 years? A stay of execution, this and that? It's absolutely poetic to me, too, that they're doing it at Fort Hood, the same exact minute, the same hour that he did it.

• 1:32:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Zero hesitation, you fully support.

• 1:32:58Speaker 01

  100%. And I'm gonna tell you something else, I wish there was a way, because he's doing it for Islam, Pat, to follow him through the afterlife, because I wanna see his face when he realizes that 72 virgin nonsense, mumbo jumbo, it ain't happening, Captain. There is no virgins, there is nothing, you're freaking believing a false freaking god and teaching you to murder. What, tell me the religion that says murder innocents and we got virgins waiting for you in heaven? If that's, if, the sale, by the way, the sale, Pat, we're sale, we sell stuff, that's your sale? It boggles my mind that people go, yes, I'm all in, I'm all in, to go do that. So God bless those 13 Americans who lost their lives, and I hope that their families on that day are gonna have some peace.

• 1:33:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have a different opinion?

• 1:33:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, well, I have a, I have, here's what I'll say. I'm with Vinnie, for the most part, on this.

• 1:33:49Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, 86% of people watching support the public execution, 14% said no. Again, 86, 14.

• 1:33:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, listen, this guy was a major in the, what branch?

• 1:34:00Speaker 01

  Army.

• 1:34:01Tom Ellsworth?

  In the Army.

• 1:34:02Speaker 01

  Fort Hood.

• 1:34:03Tom Ellsworth?

  And if you listen to the words he said, he described the attack as jihad. So I don't know how you wanna define jihad, it's an internal struggle, it's an external struggle, whatever you think that the Quran basically says. Anyone who basically, basically subverts the American institution, becomes part of our military, comes in, practices jihad, kills 13 military members, and wounded 32? Public execution is not even enough. He can invite his family and friends for all I care. This is a jihadist who end up in America, taking out American lives. So when Secretary of War Pete Hex says the US Army has become weak and woke, and we won't basically end up like Europe, and the famous clip of him saying, "No fatties, no

• 1:34:48Tom Ellsworth?

  trennies, no beardos, no weirdos, no wimps, no radicals, just warriors." This is the reality of war at this point. We're at war with radical jihad, whether you like it or not. And I loved your interview with Raymond Ibrahim earlier this week. Incredible breakdown, just stoic, educational, and basically saying, "Guys, this is what's happening right now." Here's the biggest point here, we talk about suicidal empathy in the West, this is an exhibit of homicidal empathy, where we let someone like this have guns and kill our soldiers. To me, publics execution, and then some for someone like this.

• 1:35:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom?

• 1:35:25Tom Ellsworth?

  I have a different take. On August 14th, 1936, what stopped the United States? August 14th, 1936, on this topic.

• 1:35:35Speaker 01

  What stopped us?

• 1:35:36Tom Ellsworth?

  What stopped, that's what we're talking about. Public executions. Public executions, the last one in the United States, what happened in Kentucky, August 14th, 1936. Before that, people would come to the town square, the public executions were done outside jails, outside the town square, and in colonial times, they were done outside the courthouse. And the courthouse often was a church, which doubled as a schoolhouse in the center of town, because they didn't have a lot of buildings. So the schoolhouse and the church and the courthouse were all the same thing. So they, they took it. Now, they said that crowds became rowdy, and it became more of a spectacle, so they moved into private. But you know what was also universally accepted?

• 1:36:16Tom Ellsworth?

  People went there and often took young children there, and pointed out to them that a life that leads here, leads here. And it's so, you had this social thing happen. Now, they say that they became rowdy, that oftentimes there was drunkenness, and then one time there was a fully rotted gallows in Texas, that when they pulled the rope to drop the prisoner, the whole thing collapsed. And so, also injuring the executioner, that's bad. So in other words, there were some problems. And it wasn't perfect, but it was at a time, Pat, where there was a deterrent. You don't wanna shame your family and be that person in the public square. There is a time. And I think moving it to private, moving it inside the jail...

• 1:37:01Tom Ellsworth?

  I think made sense, but they always had public witnesses. People like you and me, like for jury duty, that would have the opportunity to witness and we gave comments to the newspaper because they still wanted the deterrent, Pat. They wanted people to read about it. It's the most horrible thing I saw. I was selected to be there. I witnessed on behalf of the governor. It's the most terrible thing. I don't wish this on any person, but he committed crimes and murder and he was executed. That would be in the newspaper. So people would sit there and there is deterrent.

• 1:37:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So I looked up the last, uh, the first state that banned public execution, Connecticut, 1830. Rhode Island, 1833, Pennsylvania, 1834, New York, 1835, Massachusetts, 1835, Jersey, 1835. So public executions started being banned about 200 years ago, long time ago.

• 1:37:49Tom Ellsworth?

  200?

• 1:37:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Connecticut was for 1776. Okay, 1830, 60 years later, Connecticut says we're not going to do public executions. The last 10 executions that we did. Okay, Roscoe Jackson, Missouri, murdered traveling salesman in 1937, Pearl Bozart during a robbery. Boom, public execution. Next one, Dudley Barr, 1937, May 21st, Missouri. Murder and robbery of Walter Milton. Okay, next one, Fred Adams, 1937, Missouri. Notice a pattern here. Murdered night marshal Clarence Green during a robbery. Hurt Hardy, Missouri, 1937, murdered 19-year-old Ethel Fenestra.

• 1:38:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Murder.

• 1:38:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Murder, yes. Next, Missouri, George McVeer, 1936, Missouri, murdered a Missouri highway patrolman and a sheriff. Public execution. Rainey Bethia, Kentucky, convicted of raping Lucia Edwards. He also confessed to murdering her. Okay, C.D. Ward, Missouri, 1935, convicted of raping two sisters. Execution. Edward Gaiman, Missouri, murder and robbery of Arthur Cashin. I'll, I'll, then next one, okay? Will, uh, William Roland, Missouri, murdered Edwin Shannon. So this used to be a thing in Missouri and Kentucky. And the first one that banned it was Connecticut. And now he wants to bring it back and do it in Texas. And by the way, if he keeps his word and this happens and the video is alive

• 1:39:18Patrick Bet-David?

  and you're an insider, remember when Jacob Coxon, the Anthropic insider, said that we have Chinese nationals at Anthropic and, and what do you call it, OpenAI?

• 1:39:28Patrick Bet-David?

  There is nothing more than an insider that's a major. Not a, not a private E1 or, or private first class.

• 1:39:39Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 1:39:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Or a specialist or a sergeant. You're a frickin' major.

• 1:39:44Speaker 01

  Salute Adam.

• 1:39:44Patrick Bet-David?

  This is an insider. You know what this could call for? You know what this could call for? This could be, I don't know what next thing he's going to be doing, but there could be some levels of if Chinese nationals cannot be in companies like OpenAI and Anthropic, maybe it's time to decide what types of people cannot join the US Army and go a little bit deeper on your background checks. I don't know. Maybe, maybe you gotta raise the standards of who can't even go serve. Because we obviously.

• 1:40:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Should be entitled to have a weapon.

• 1:40:14Speaker 01

  No, not, no, not, no, not even weapon. It's here that, because, because you know what the biggest, by the way, I'm working at a, at a nuclear missile base, Adam. You know what the biggest threat? It wasn't out, it wasn't outside people. It's the insider threat. You have no idea how much training we had to do to make sure it wasn't people that were the inside, Adam. That's the most dangerous thing. And like he said, this wasn't like a, an enlisted E2, E3. You have to go from second lieutenant to lieutenant to captain to major, bro. And then lieutenant colonel and it keeps going up. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I'm, listen, Pat. This to me, how much do you think, Adam, of the people that are here that are seeing this, I mean, I'm talking about enemies from within, because when you sign up for the military, it's to protect the country from enemies, foreign

• 1:40:56Speaker 01

  and domestic, the ones that are already here. How many of those people, Adam, that have, Adam, I'm a realist. There's people walking around right now that are in the military that have been kind of indoctrinated, that they're kind of like on the fence that they're probably in their head, I'm going, you know what, I could probably see myself doing something like this to say, hey, the hell with America and blah, blah, blah. Once they hear the Secretary of War say, we're going to kill this dude and I want everybody to see it. Do you think it has a little bit of an effect, Tom, on, on somebody that's like even weighing an option of trying to do something to murder Americans?

• 1:41:28Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it does on certain tiers. Uh, if, if you are a radicalized person, you're going to do it anyway because whether you die there or die later, you think you're going to glory in this absolutely perverted logic, right?

• 1:41:43Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:41:43Tom Ellsworth?

  If you're radicalized. But other people, do you think it stops it? Absolutely. I, and I, but remember, there's also, what we're also talking about here is the structure and the social compact that, that, that lives in civilized society. And look at one of the things that, that I read from that, the summary of public executions, is that people told, you know, were, were fearful. They would see this. There was a film that was called Scared Straight during, I believe it was the 80s. If you guys can look that up. It was in a, it was to remind young men of the horrors of prison and what happens to your life after prison. It's a great show. Yeah. Right? Scared Straight.

• 1:42:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Scared Straight, it was a, it's a documentary. It was not SNL. It was the documentary about the US prison system. Yeah. And what will probably happen to your life after you go to prison, the ability to get jobs, being married, all of that. And it also reminded them that men in prison, other things happen which are horrifying. But the bigger thing it was, this will destroy your life. Where are you going to get a job? Where are you going to go? What are you going to do? And also leaving your family on the outside and what they think. There used to be this fear and these things in America that went with strong family leadership and sensible, sensible social concern.

• 1:43:11Tom Ellsworth?

  And we've lost that, right? We've lost that. Prison has become crime college. You know, the recidivation rate is horrible. You know, and, uh, we need deterrence.

• 1:43:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you, you need, you need a little bit of fear to impose and to people to not make any dumb mistakes. You need to, we got some people that are watching the podcast. We had a kid over there. I love it when people come and watch the podcast. Baby Brooklyn, baby, baby, baby.

• 1:43:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Can I add just one thing?

• 1:43:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:38Tom Ellsworth?

  To me, the reason that I, that I'm so upset about this story, that, that, there's a lack of trust of you, you're using the word internal. Look at the stories we're talked about in the last week of the people on the inside that have basically done the most heinous things ever to the people that's supposed to trust them. Lindsey Clancy kills her three kids. Is there someone that's supposed to be more protective of your three kids than the mother? The, the pilot of this Air Dubai flight, you're supposed to be taking these passengers to safety. And next thing you know, you're the one trying to kill them. The major in the army, you're the one killing the soldiers. To me, there's a lack of trust. If you can't trust the people on the inside, how the hell you can trust anybody?

• 1:44:17Patrick Bet-David?

  This isn't a trust conversation. This is consequences. This is consequences. Have you noticed the pattern since Lindsey Clancy's story of killing her kid?

• 1:44:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, you start to see more killings.

• 1:44:31Patrick Bet-David?

  How many documented stories

• 1:44:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 1:44:35Patrick Bet-David?

  of death, deaths involving biological mothers, okay, has happened since her story? How many? Of some people are sitting there saying, well, you know what, and by the way, maybe next time we'll have the data to show it to you. Of how many has happened since some people are like, well, it's not a big deal. Well, it's not a big deal. Some of the stories are, you're reading, you're like, is this real or is this, say, no, it's real? Is this real? No, it's real. Is this real? It's real. So the key word is consequences, Adam. You cross the line, there has to be consequences. And if the consequences are, oh, it's okay, this is what we're going to be doing. No, there needs to be real, like Chaz, what's his first name?

• 1:45:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Ch, uh, from the Chism, Chism from Yankees. He interviewed in a certain way. I don't like to, for you to talk like that about the Yankees. I, I don't like the way you talked about the Yankees. After you lose, you're like, hey, they're talking shit and all this other stuff.

• 1:45:27Speaker 01

  Booing us.

• 1:45:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm sorry, buddy. You don't talk like that. If, if.

• 1:45:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't talk like that about the fans. The fans are not happy with you. You were the Yankees. You're a we. You're not an I. We don't speak in the I language. We speak in the we language collectively. And yes, there are certain sports teams, certain people shouldn't play for. Cause it comes with a lot of pressure. Guess what's one of them? Yankees. What's another one? Red Sox. What's another one? Lakers. What's another one? Anything with Philly. Don't go to Philly if you don't want the pressure that comes with it. So to me, there needs to be consequences with certain, in everything, kids, relationship, friends, peers. And you want to go out there and kill 13, you know, 13, no problem.

• 1:46:15Patrick Bet-David?

  There has to be consequences and it needs to be public. And it needs to be painful. And I dare you to even think about doing something like this. So we'll make an example of you. The concern becomes, some people may be like, hey, that's still recognition for me in my 15 minutes of fame. I'll do it because guess what? My God has given me for me to do.

• 1:46:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, the version.

• 1:46:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So you have to realize, that's why I say, I think there's another level above this. Vinnie, what are you gonna say something?

• 1:46:40Speaker 01

  You were talking about the Lindsay Clancy and the people, look at how many moms in the past week.

• 1:46:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Click on it so it's.

• 1:46:45Speaker 01

  Humberto, can you make it bigger?

• 1:46:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Just click on a picture if you can, yeah.

• 1:46:48Speaker 01

  Look at that. Mom allegedly stabs husband and two young children during an early morning attack. By the way, this is all October, September. Missouri mom claims mistakenly placed infant in oven, killing her. Lindsay Clancy obsessed mom, Corey Wall saying Wizard of Oz tune after hanging her two year old son. Look at all this boom, happening, happening, happening.

• 1:47:05Patrick Bet-David?

  This is all after Lindsay Clancy, because you can, Texas mom shoots daughter for and murder. It was a suicide, October 2nd. This is last week.

• 1:47:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you think these are inspired? Do you think these are copycats? Do you think it's a little bit more pronounced?

• 1:47:17Patrick Bet-David?

  This is New York Post. This is, this is news that's going on.

• 1:47:20Speaker 01

  You know what this means, Adam?

• 1:47:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Because of one word.

• 1:47:22Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:47:23Patrick Bet-David?

  There is no consequences.

• 1:47:25Speaker 01

  Bingo.

• 1:47:27Patrick Bet-David?

  There are no consequences, so I can get away with this. The consequences game is.

• 1:47:34Tom Ellsworth?

  There's also the victim mentality. Here Lindsay Clancy is now the hero and the victim of killing her three kids. They're saying that she should be going to jail for the rest of her life. And now people are making her a hero. There is a victim.

• 1:47:46Speaker 01

  Are you ready for this or no? But the point that he's trying to.

• 1:47:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Because of the standards that we have.

• 1:47:50Tom Ellsworth?

  You also talked about this Cornell case. This lady clearly, I don't know if we want to touch it right now. She was clearly a very promiscuous woman. Now there's, the consequences are people finding out, now she claims she's being raped.

• 1:48:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so let's go to that story. Let's go, let's go to that story. So Cornell girl, Jane Doe, Vinnie found her on Instagram. So it's not like you can find who she is. We won't give the name. So this girl Jane Doe, let's call her. More stories comes out on addendum. Do I want to read this stuff, folks? I mean earmuffs. I just want to let you know, some of this stuff is just

• 1:48:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Pretty gross.

• 1:48:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Pretty gross of what, what she was into. So let's go to page eight with some of the text messages. Um, there is sexting and then there is this, okay? So Jane Doe was a serious text mo, two days after alleged loss, almost consoling one of the men she'd later accuse of rape. TMZ obtained a text chain between Jonathan Newell and Jane Doe on the evening of October 21st, 2024. Newell apologized. You're an amazing person and I genuinely hope you're not catching as much heat from this as we are. We've been shutting down any stories we've heard, but again, I'm so sorry. Jane responded, oh Jonathan, I really appreciate the text. My memory is super clouded too. I really liked being with you and Matt.

• 1:49:02Patrick Bet-David?

  So anything anyone has to say about the gangbang is out of their jurisdiction. I don't think we should feel any shame of, for that part. Our body, our choice as ASF. ASF is what? As, I don't know what ASF stands.

• 1:49:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Like as F you see.

• 1:49:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. She added, at the end of the day, you, Matt and I were in your bed and they didn't need to get up in that. She appeared to say she hooked up with them both before. I really do love you and Matt. And I promise I won't get quiet and weird. Uh, W you like I did last time. I don't know what the hell that means. So Vinnie, what else are you seeing with this?

• 1:49:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I'll get quiet and weird with you like.

• 1:49:39Speaker 01

  Two days after, Pat, like she apologizes, acknowledged that everybody was intoxicated. You know, said that it, it, activity was legal. Uh, even wrote our body, our choice, okay? And she described everyone as consulting, consenting adults. And they made a comment about women doing this in medieval times. She also told one of the men, she loved him and another man involved and offered to talk if he had any regrets. And according to other, uh, according to other reports, she was texting her girlfriends during the sexual, like she'd have one round with a guy, text her friends, go back and do another one. Talks it and, uh, and then text him and then, um, she was planning to return to the fraternity house for a Halloween

• 1:50:22Speaker 01

  party. Well, this is where it gets, the real information comes out. Uh, she was disinvited and her messages revealed that she was upset from girls from another sorority. Cause they were whispering behind her back and starting rumors. Okay. And then one of the men, Pat, I think is Matthew Ingles, I, I, I think, uh, is now allegedly like she sexually assaulted him. And he was too drunk and too high because he didn't remember anything.

• 1:50:43Patrick Bet-David?

  What does that mean?

• 1:50:44Speaker 01

  This is, does this guy?

• 1:50:46Patrick Bet-David?

  She used sex toys on him?

• 1:50:47Speaker 01

  This might be the guy, and I'll let you get to that, Tom, because apparently this guy, Pat, saying, you know what? I was on drugs. I was drunk. I don't remember and I'm going to give it to you in a second, Tom. But this is what I'm taking from the story. It's amazing how everybody, a lot of women and a lot of these feminists supporting men rushed to condemn, condemn these men and you didn't have all the evidence, no trial, no verdict, nothing. Okay, nothing. And then you're calling a rapist. And I sent Humberto this clip of AOC, and this is a big problem that AOC can have if these guys want to turn their ugly head to her. This is what she's saying, uh, and this is a defamation lawsuit if they want it, Pat. Look at what she said about these guys, but without knowing anything of, of the story. Go ahead, Bert.

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• 1:53:37Speaker 01

  Seven men drugged and gang raped a 20 year old woman. They lured her in to a fraternity house. They drugged her with ketamine. They then posted to a group chat that she was incapacitated. And seven men took turns gang raping her for seven hours. Pause that. Now, that right there, I hope one of these kids' families hears it. And you go after her and you sue her, okay? Cause they're calling all of them gang rapists and all the texts are revealing that they want, and this is the big difference, Pat. Regret versus rape, okay?

• 1:54:18Speaker 01

  Two completely different things. One of them ruins your weekend and you're ripping, ah, I'm gonna, it's gonna suck. It'll go away in six months. The other one is going to ruin your life forever, literally forever. And I think we've become a society and I'm pretty sure the people out there, Tommy, I know you'll agree. They, nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions. You make stupid reckless decisions, you put yourself in dangerous situations and you act shocked when there's consequences. And here's that word again, and somehow we're not allowed to ask questions. And I'm going to do this very fast. Take George Floyd. George Floyd never even meets Derek Chauvin if he's not a degenerate, drug-using scumbag who abused women, who held a gun to a woman's pregnant stomach while his friends robbed the house. And if he wasn't trying to use a 20 fit, $20 counterfeit bill to pass.

• 1:55:02Speaker 01

  He never meets him. He never dies. Number one. Renee Good, okay? You never get killed until you try driving over a freaking federal agent with your 3,000 pound car. And all of a sudden you're the victim, okay? And the same thing goes for this girl. You don't want to be out there into the, in, in the public square and everybody's talking about you. Stop being a freaking hoochie on a campus, doing drugs and everything and then trying to blame everybody else, okay? It just drives me crazy and I'm sick and tired of it. Take responsibility for your own actions and don't get mad when the consequences come.

• 1:55:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what, what is the, because the, the one story we're telling us about what happened to one of the guys, what happened to him?

• 1:55:37Tom Ellsworth?

  So.

• 1:55:38Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, earmuffs, it's a little weird. If you're watching this with your kids, maybe take a quick break.

• 1:55:41Tom Ellsworth?

  So here, and what I'm going to do is I'm going to do this carefully. The headline that's here from the news says, one of the Cornell sevens, a fat bro, means a male that was a member of the frat, claimed that the accuser sodomized him and the school didn't care that he was a sexual survivor. He indicated in an interview, apparently, and we have to infer that while he was unconscious, he was sodomized. What that usually means when they state that is that while he was unconscious, a sex toy or other implement was inserted in him for laughs. So I think you can figure out what that means. It's pretty terrible. So you wake up after it and your guys are

• 1:56:24Tom Ellsworth?

  like, dude, you were so out of it and you should see what this chick did to you with the sex toy. That's not a quote from somebody, but I'm saying apparently there was something along those lines. And he claims that he brought that to the police and said, what about me? I was completely out of it and I didn't even have sex with her. I was getting, you know, or, you know, it's just, it's horrible. So I have two takes on this. The first take I have on this is that this has exposed many other situations that were on Cornell. Cornell has been in the headlines for a lot of very wrong reasons. The university

• 1:57:04Tom Ellsworth?

  president is under fire from the student newspaper that is doing independent reporting, Pat, of other rapes, other fraternities, other things on campus, which have been previously ignored, or very limited investigations by the school, allegedly. The board of regents or the board of trustees, it just said board, but the governing body apparently has brought in an external judicial representative. And what they're doing is they want that person to conduct a full investigation of the school's responses. Because Cornell, apparently, by these many stories, appears to be a hotbed of unchecked fraternity hazings and assaults.

• 1:57:49Tom Ellsworth?

  That's just what the headlines are saying. I'm not saying that. I'm not defaming Cornell. Apparently, their reputation is here with all these reports of the incidents that are going on. And I think parents need to know this stuff when you're making choices for your kids. And this is exactly why I dissuaded people from sending their kids there for veterinary school. I was like, my daughter was thinking about that. Hell, no. Go to University of Florida. You know, go somewhere else. But for the love of God, don't send your kid into a hotbed of this stuff. But right now, there is, I set the woman aside, Pat, you see what I mean? And I think that the outcomes that are coming here on awareness

• 1:58:31Tom Ellsworth?

  of what's going on campus, you're looking the other way by the administration, fraternities that weren't sufficiently checked, university police that were like, well, it was kind of a party, maybe there's nothing to see here, were legitimate, innocent victims, Vinnie, not victims that are kind of made their own way into this.

• 1:58:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, where you at?

• 1:58:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, you know, the famous phrase, facts don't care about your feelings. Well, the inverse of that is that feelings don't care about your facts. Here's what I think is actually happened. I think this girl was a massive slut. And earmuffs for everybody out there. She liked doing drugs. There was no gang rape. There was, again, earmuffs. There was a gangbang. And she wanted this. And again, last time we talked about this, doing the drug ketamine or K, you don't know what's going on. And she willingly did this. And she did this multiple times and came back for more. So to me, this is hookup culture

• 1:59:32Tom Ellsworth?

  on steroids. And then you use, the AOC uses the narrative of a seven men from Cornell gang raped this woman for political expediency and basically using it to basically create a narrative that didn't exist. And what I find the most ironic here is, the people that are basically advocating for open borders and illegal immigration, they have nothing to say about the Pakistani rape gangs that were going on in the UK for decades, where women, innocent women, were basically done dirty beyond, they're silent about the AOC. Why don't you talk about that? Hey, Abdul Al Sayed, why don't you talk about the Pakistani

• 2:00:17Tom Ellsworth?

  rape gangs? Nothing. But all of a sudden, these seven white guys, not even white guys, seven white guys at Cornell, gang whatever this woman, this is the number one thing they have to say. So the hypocrisy. We're going to find out exactly what happened with the story. The truth will come out. Because all the text messages are there and phone calls are there, recorded lines are there. But to me, the hypocrisy from the far left is what I have a problem.

• 2:00:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Parents, get involved with your kids. Talk to them about this kind of stuff. We were at dinner the other day. I brought this up to all the kids. And I talked to them about situations, case studies, what to do in situations like this. Jennifer was right there. We talked to our two boys. And don't be the parent that's uncomfortable to talk about this stuff. One time I had, the first time I had RFK on the podcast, six years ago, seven years ago, I asked him a question about what was it like being a Kennedy? What did dinners look like? He said, my dad would ask me questions during dinner and he would say, what's wrong with doing LSD? We should make it legal. And we would debate it. And we would go out, bring these types of topics. You have an opportunity at dinner table every night. Turn off the TV, ask them. Ask them, if your kids are a certain age, ask them, what do you think is the right thing to do here? What if you get an opportunity to go

• 2:01:23Patrick Bet-David?

  do this? What would you do? How would you handle it? What if the girl is gorgeous? What if your friend says, nobody's gonna know? What if the girl says, come on, use the ketamine, do the drug? How would you handle that? What would you do? How would you prevent yourself from not being tempted to do some stupid like this? And how are you going to stay? These are the top, because if you don't, kids are gonna do what you do. There's a kid, there's a video of a six-year-old kid that shot his teacher. And I want to ask you a question when you watch the way this kid speaks. How did he learn how to speak like this? And again, this is some, you know, I want you to be ready because the language is nasty.

• 2:01:55Tom Ellsworth?

  I would tell everybody.

• 2:01:56Patrick Bet-David?

  And I send the video to you. Is this the video I sent you or is this a different video?

• 2:01:59Tom Ellsworth?

  I sent, I sent.

• 2:02:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I sent you the video. I want you to play the video I sent you.

• 2:02:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yours is bleeped. Yours is bleeped. This one's not bleeped. I don't know if this.

• 2:02:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I know. But the video I sent, it shows it from a reporting angle.

• 2:02:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 2:02:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And I just want you to play the clip that I sent you. I want you to watch this. Six-year-old boy shoots his teacher. Then they record him. And look at the way he speaks to the teacher. And the teacher, this is the teacher that.

• 2:02:27Tom Ellsworth?

  The teacher's getting wished away. There's another teacher, Pat, holding him. This is the aftermath. The teacher's already been shot. Now he's being held in the class.

• 2:02:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this. Watch this. Play.

• 2:02:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Hand and into the chest by one of her young students. Let's see how that student is doing. Fuck you, you fucking piece of big bitch. Stop.

• 2:02:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Six years old. Leave the gun there.

• 2:02:49Tom Ellsworth?

  I told the AP that there was a threat earlier about it.

• 2:02:52Patrick Bet-David?

  The AP is the assistant principal.

• 2:02:55Tom Ellsworth?

  He is six years old. And I called 911 when I heard this. I ran there in the specialist.

• 2:03:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch how he speaks.

• 2:03:01Tom Ellsworth?

  I came down the hall. She had blood. You know what she did? Fuck you, bitch.

• 2:03:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Who talks like that at six years old? How did he learn how to talk like that?

• 2:03:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Where is the weapon? It's on the floor. It's over there, whore. Stop. Listen to that. Fuck you. That's not how we speak to each other. Fuck you, bitch. I stole that from my mom. Stole the gun from his mom. What's your name? Six years old. If you want a piece of me, come get it, bitch. Are you kidding me? His mom is supposedly. I don't care if you call backup. I don't care if I go to jail, bitch. Look into that. We know you know that language and you know that's not appropriate. Mrs. Kovacs is not happy with that. Oh, wow. She is way too.

• 2:03:42Patrick Bet-David?

  He slapped her.

• 2:03:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Boy, I can't wait to see what that fine young man is going through. Oh, yeah. Can you believe that?

• 2:03:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And so, Umberto, I sent you.

• 2:03:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Who's this? Is this the teacher?

• 2:03:51Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the teacher that was shot.

• 2:03:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Can we continue this?

• 2:03:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go ahead.

• 2:03:53Tom Ellsworth?

  What does it say here?

• 2:03:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go ahead. Keep playing it audio.

• 2:03:55Tom Ellsworth?

  ...in the hospital. That boy's mother did a fine job, didn't she? Oh, there's the mom. Don't worry, though. She came up with the worst excuse ever, real fast. He has ADHD. Some are able to have it at a very mild rate, but he's off the wall. Doesn't sit still ever. Do you feel that there is some racial component to it? Absolutely. If the dynamics were different, if the teacher was. What? Maybe looking like me, and the student was Caucasian or another nationality.

• 2:04:24Patrick Bet-David?

  How does he learn how to talk like that?

• 2:04:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Are you kidding me?

• 2:04:26Patrick Bet-David?

  How does a kid learn to talk like that? Let it keep going.

• 2:04:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Guilty and was in prison until May 2026.

• 2:04:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Parker is the former assistant principal from Rich Neck Elementary School. Ebony Parker faces eight counts of child abuse with reckless disregard for life. One for every bullet in the gun. It began with Zawarna, the morning of the shooting, going to see Parker and allegedly telling Parker the child was in a violent mood.

• 2:04:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Violent mood. Ready?

• 2:04:49Patrick Bet-David?

  A short time later, two students told another member of the school staff, the child had a gun in his bag.

• 2:04:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Two warnings.

• 2:04:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Child's backpack was searched, but nothing was found. Grand jury says Zawarna is still worried, told colleagues she thought she saw the boy put something in his pocket, which was also told to Parker. Still, no. ...search or pat down. Then after recess, one of the boy's friends came up to another teacher and told her the child had a gun and showed him the bullets.

• 2:05:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Boy, that assistant principal is screwed, huh? Not so fast.

• 2:05:19Speaker 01

  Watch this. Judge dismissing the charges against former assistant principal Ebony Parker. The judge said that there were too many questions with the law and the legality of the indictments that were set forth here. That's the judge.

• 2:05:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, sure. I'm supposed to take seriously anything said by a purple lipstick judge? Well, I can tell you right now who the next Supreme Court Justice will be if a Democrat is president.

• 2:05:40Speaker 01

  You can stop it. Like, like, okay, for everybody out there, how does that, that kid, and I feel so bad for him, there's no way you come out into society, you come out of your mother, unless there's major, major problems, by ADHD, give me a freaking break. The first thing I thought about, where's the father? And if you look it up, Umberto's father's name is Malik Ramon Ellison. Criminal history, and guess what the criminal history is? Domestic violence, assault, illegal ammunition possession, violating protective orders, convicted of assaulting the boy's mother, another woman accused him of threatening her with a gun, okay? Look at the freaking chaos. This kid has zero, zero chance.

• 2:06:23Speaker 01

  No discipline, no parenting, no consequences, and all of a sudden, and who they, who they, they're gonna blame, they're gonna blame ADHD? I think it's absolutely ridiculous, Pat. Like, thank God the teacher wasn't shot and killed, but to blame race and to blame ADHD? No, no, it was the mother, and the mother spent, if I'm not mistaken, three years, nine months in prison for child neglect and federal firearms charges, but the fact that the principal, who was warned four times in one day, the assistant principal, four times, gun, gun, he's hiding it, gun, you ignore it, a teacher gets shot, and that judge says, you're good. All the offenses, all the felonies, all, all, all gone.

• 2:07:02Patrick Bet-David?

  This goes back to my same thing with consequences.

• 2:07:04Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 2:07:05Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're not gonna have consequences, this kind of behavior is gonna be repeated. But no six-year-old kid learns to talk like that, wasn't born to talk like that.

• 2:07:13Speaker 01

  Nope.

• 2:07:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You'll learn how to talk like that. A six-year-old kid learned, that's a learned skill set. That rage, that language, learned skill set from father, from mother, from a brother, and from the community they're raised in. It's embarrassing to see a story like this. Embarrassing to see a story like this. Adam, your thoughts?

• 2:07:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I mean, this is the most ghetto story I've seen, and maybe ever. A six-year-old kid talking trash to the police, teachers, after he shot his teacher and saying, what's up, you wanna go again? Oh, my God. Absolute ghetto. And, and this, listen, who, who's gonna come across this? This is why you, you talk about raising, how you're raising your kids and being a leader and setting standards, this is the reason why. And this is why a lot of people have a major reservation of sending their kids to public schools like this. This is why the school choice programs are so important. This is why I can't tell you how many people I speak to that homeschool their kids, because is this the type of school system that you wanna basically send your kids to? So let me get this straight.

• 2:08:16Tom Ellsworth?

  The choices are, you send your kid and they get woke and weird and they become lesbians, or they go to some ghetto school system and they can potentially get shot by a fellow classmate who's six years old. Just, the, the education system in America needs a total revamp right now. Here's just one story of ghetto-ness that is going on in our school.

• 2:08:36Speaker 01

  And you think they're saving that kid, Pat? That, that six-year-old kid, you think they're saving that, that mentality of how he is and how he has that freaking attitude at that freaking age? And I don't know who that was, because apparently he's staying with the grandfather right now, but for that guy, it'd be like, yeah, race has something to do with it. Shut up. I'm so sorry, shut up with that stupid racist nonsense and ADHD. No, no, it's your mother and your father.

• 2:08:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Journalist asking the question, you think this is a race-related issue?

• 2:09:02Speaker 01

  Like, you think it's race? No, no. How about, how about look at her right next to you and the father, God knows where the hell he is, he's probably in prison. What are you, stop the nonsense. It's you. I would've said it's you and the father. The father has a rap sheet, what, what, what, what do you think? You don't think that kid's listening to stupid-ass music?

• 2:09:19Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what this reminds me of and why this is not a race story? Remember the, the famous thing on Dr. Phil, catch me outside? Catch me outside? That's a white girl. Nobody was like, is this a race factor here? No, it's a ghetto-ass mindset factor.

• 2:09:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, let me wrap up with two stories and we'll, we'll be done here. One, congrats to Rogan for getting a quarter billion out of renewal contract with Spotify. You'll love seeing that happening. And I think, I think I saw it in AP, it says, controversial podcast host gets a 200, controversial, they're still calling it controversial podcast host, Joe Rogan signs a new deal with Spotify, reported $250 million. But the story I wanted to get to is the Starbucks story, okay? Starbucks CEO, Brian Nicolle, who used to be the previous CEO of Chipotle, who took Chipotle from $7 billion to $71 billion in valuation, who when he got the job with Starbucks as the new CEO, the stock increased $20 billion in one day, he got 130 or 190 million auto contract.

• 2:10:16Patrick Bet-David?

  They have now announced that Starbucks is thinking about buying Chipotle.

• 2:10:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, man.

• 2:10:21Patrick Bet-David?

  So you leave Chipotle, you go to Starbucks with the plans of buying your previous employer.

• 2:10:25Tom Ellsworth?

  That's so fake, sir.

• 2:10:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And when that announcement is made, Chipotle, so, one, Tom, good idea, do you see this? This is a very, very weird, this is kinda like when Amazon bought Whole Foods from that guy, Mackie, McKee, you know, and it's like, why is Amazon buying Whole Foods? And it actually ended up being a very good flywheel. Do you think this makes sense for Starbucks to purchase Chipotle?

• 2:10:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, and I'll tell you why. Because he's gonna be purchasing, let's, never mind that he was CEO, Vinnie, but let's say, okay, he, he really turns Chipotle around and got it, you know, out of the ditch from the, the food, the food contamination and all the things that went, and he, he got it rolling. Chipotle says, ups, you know, level up food compared to pure fast food. Check. Starbucks level up coffee compared to 7-Eleven, right? You see parallels here? Multiple locations out there, yes. I see alignment here on the two businesses, Pat. This would be one of the largest mergers in restaurant history.

• 2:11:35Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, Burger King bought Tim Hortons, which is in Canada, that was pretty big. I think this would be bigger than that, I think this might be the biggest of all time. But I see alignment. Number one, he knows both organizations. Number two, how they buy real estate, where they put their locations, who they're catering to, the rewards program that they're putting together. Can you imagine if your Starbucks rewards card is now combined with your Chipotle rewards? So you get rewards at both and you get benefits? I just see a lot of synergies and things that could work from a guy that knows both sides of it, and as a shareholder, you know what? You know, I, that, this would not upset me, and I know one thing, you know, 10 seconds

• 2:12:18Tom Ellsworth?

  into it, that's Starbucks coffee there at Chipotle in the morning. You're getting your.

• 2:12:22Speaker 01

  Burrito barista.

• 2:12:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Your, your breakfast burrito and Starbucks coffee right there. So I, I see a lot of things that go together, not just because he was CEO of both, Pat, I see product overlap, strategic overlap. I kinda like this, and by the way, the market on the Starbucks side also liked it.

• 2:12:42Speaker 01

  So would you, would you recommend buying a stock in Chipotle right now? When, Pat, this is already announced, it's coming out?

• 2:12:47Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, it's a whisper.

• 2:12:48Speaker 01

  It's a whisper? So I'm just saying, if the stock is $31?

• 2:12:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, he, he, listen, I, I like Brian Nicolle a lot. I, I don't know if it's gonna be a collaboration, where you're gonna go to Chipotle and order Starbucks.

• 2:13:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Or like, you know how sometimes you see some gas stations have Subways in there and, you know? I don't, I don't know if, you know, he, he's got, this guy's brilliant, there's certain things he sees that we don't see, and I don't yet know what it is. I do know Starbucks been struggling lately, it's not like they, pre him coming there, they had a hard time, and there's, they've been dealing with a couple media stuff. One of them was the sugar story, Starbucks sued over alleged substantial amount of sugar in their sugar-free drink.

• 2:13:32Speaker 01

  What?

• 2:13:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Company denies claims, this is an ABC story, it could be a BS story as well. And then there is a story that came out with them having slime in their drinks, and be careful, and all this other stuff, so the proposed class action lawsuit filed, the suit filed by plaintiff represented by sells eight beverages, it says, alleged Starbucks sells eight beverages whose names have been, begin with the word sugar-free, even though they contain between 13 to 21 grams of sugar per venti size serving. The eight drinks are sugar-free vanilla, caramel, protein, lattes, and machados, hot and ice, the 21 grams of sugar containing venti drinks, problems are roughly equal to five teaspoons of sugar, so they're, they're, they're dealing with this stuff, but he's a big boy. Brian's a big boy, he knows what he's doing.

• 2:14:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if I fully yet see the collaboration, but let's see how the market reacts. Brian's got something up his sleeves that we're not thinking about, Tom.

• 2:14:25Tom Ellsworth?

  I see locations, I see strategic overlap, I see consumer overlap, but I'd love to hear more about it's about. And by the way, I didn't say it was sugar-free like no sugar. I said the sugar was free, I'm not charging it for it.

• 2:14:37Speaker 01

  Now I get it, now like.

• 2:14:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, Tom kinda summed it all up, here's all I'll say. You have a customer going from Starbucks, having your morning coffee, and then having lunch at Chipotle, that sounds like a volatile situation in the bathroom market, where the customer to toilet ratio is gonna have a liquidity crisis, because there's gonna be a market crash of toilets at that point. So be very careful with your increase of toilet usage after your Chipotle-Starbucks situation. That's the first thing that came to mind to me.

• 2:15:07Speaker 01

  If he starts buying toilet paper, like if he starts owning toilet paper, then we have like, like.

• 2:15:11Tom Ellsworth?

  That's a great flywheel.

• 2:15:12Speaker 01

  That's a flywheel, Pat.

• 2:15:13Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, gang, the girls are there, you want to bring them in? Because we're about to wrap up, just to say hi, we had a good podcast, lots of good stories, different things that was covered, but with that being said, gang, the coins, I didn't expect this thing to go the way it did. The coins sold out within 15 minutes.

• 2:15:29Tom Ellsworth?

  I actually believe that, they were only 200 bucks?

• 2:15:31Patrick Bet-David?

  They, they sold out within 15 minutes.

• 2:15:32Tom Ellsworth?

  I thought they would be a thousand bucks.

• 2:15:33Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, they were gone in 15 minutes.

• 2:15:35Speaker 01

  Oh, I have two people coming in.

• 2:15:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, look at these people. The other ones, we still have a few.

• 2:15:38Tom Ellsworth?

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• 2:15:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, that's great.

• 2:15:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Congratulations.

• 2:15:43Speaker 01

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• 2:15:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Called a re-gift. Look at this, look at this painting here. Give it to mommy when he's here. Brooklyn, can you say hi to everybody before we say goodbye?

• 2:15:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Here, Senna.

• 2:15:52Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I'm talking over there.

• 2:15:56Speaker 01

  Over there, Brooklyn, the camera's over there.

• 2:15:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Folks, have a wonderful weekend, we will do this again on Monday. God bless everybody, take care, bye-bye, bye-bye. Bye, everybody.

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