Tucker’s New MAGA Party, El-Sayed Wins Michigan & Perez Hilton Hospitalized | PBD Podcast #840

Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team react to Tucker Carlson emerging as the face of a possible third-party revolt, Abdul El-Sayed’s upset win in Michigan and Perez Hilton’s hospitalization after a disturbing livestream. Plus, Trump’s Iran pressure, AI election warfare and the GOP’s growing Groyper divide. 🎟️ SECURE YOUR 2026 VAULT TICKETS: https://bit.ly/4xU2SCW 👞 GET THE FLB1's: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6 🧢 SHOP THE BLACK & GOLD FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT HAT: https://bit.ly/4pe7gZh 🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: https://bit.ly/4mFBPpw Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: http://kalshi.com/pbd SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT @ValuetainmentComedy ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of two boys and two girls. He currently resides in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

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  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

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  You are a one of one?

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  My son's right there.

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  I don't think I've ever said this before.

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  All right, lots to cover today and we decided to bring one of the best looking guys in the history of mankind, little bit too much, too, too much looks here, Antonio Sabato Jr. here with us, great to have you on the podcast.

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  My pleasure, my honor.

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  Yeah, I mean, you know, when we talk to the ladies, it's always the general hospital, right? 92 to 95, the seasons you were on.

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  Yep.

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  And then from there, Calvin Klein, which was everywhere, back in the days when the Calvin Klein models meant something, at the peak of it, that's when you were in it. Janet Jackson music video, if I'm not mistaken, you did something with Janet Jackson and so.

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  Oh, what'd you feel about that? Love will never do without you.

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  Oh!

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  Herb Ritz shot that, greatest photographer of all time, Herb Ritz, he's not with us anymore. So I had the pleasure to work with some amazing people. We didn't have the phones and all that stuff back then, it was a different.

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  Just a good time.

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  Just a good time with people talking to each other face to face, not through their phones, their technology. It was about being human beings and you got the job to tell you to your face, now they send you a message, you know what I mean? They don't even want to talk to you anymore, you know? Different times, we were humans then. You call somebody, you dial the phone. Now it's like, hey man, I'll see you later. Actually, leave me a message later, I don't even want to talk to you. You know what I mean? Nobody has the time to do anything, but they have all the time to be negative. You understand that? And I think we appreciated time. In the 90s, when I moved to this country in 85, from Italy, I was, it was an honor to become an American citizen. I paid my dues. You know, my mom, from Prague, my dad from Palermo, who wanted to become an actor, Grand Prix, all the greatest movies,

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  especially the westerns. And my mom was like, in Prague, you know what I mean? Living, escaping the Communist Party. And my grandmother was the only survivor of Auschwitz, because her brother and her parents were killed at Auschwitz. So, my mom, I grew up in Rome, not knowing this stuff as a little boy, and then at eight years old, my mom says, we're gonna go to Prague and I'm gonna show you and your sister a concentration camp. And I was like, what is a concentration camp? I'm eight years old. So we're driving to Prague from Rome through the Alps and we get to Prague. And she shows me these concentration camps, where like, they did this, they did that. I remember seeing a lamp, all right? A lamp. And the top of the lamp had the skin of the Jewish people. That the Nazis cut their skin and

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  put it on these lamps. And I'm eight years old and I'm going, what is... My mom shows everything, the ovens, when they threw all, my family, I found out at eight years old what life was like before I was born. And it wasn't pretty. And so I learned all kinds of stuff as a little boy and I suggest everybody in this country, especially the kids and teenagers, wake up and start learning about the past, because you're not gonna know anything about the future, you know? Because you gotta learn these things. There's been awful things happening in the past.

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  A lot. And we'll get into, we'll, we'll talk about some of that stuff. We'll, we'll talk about some of that stuff. We'll talk about some of that stuff.

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  That's my family, you know what I mean, bro?

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  Great story. Yeah, when you came in, you talk about the car, Grand Prix, dad, acting, all that stuff, we'll get into that. We got a lot of stories to get into, so let me kinda cover some of the stuff we got. Yesterday, uh, uh, two days ago, I had Ben Shapiro on. We're sitting there, while we're about to go live, Tucker Carlson says, he's announcing something, then he drops his 10-point plan. A lot of people have reacted to it. We got some thoughts, we'll talk about that as well. There's a fellow in Michigan, Senator, he won the primary on the Democratic side, Abdul El Said, this is a new guy that Vinnie's very fond of, which we'll, uh.

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  Huge.

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  We'll talk about. Hassan Piker had a few things to say about Democrats, and we'll address that. Perez Hilton, you're telling me there's a video I should not watch, and I'm sure you know who he is.

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  I've.

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  And what he's done. Yeah, I, I had him on 10 years ago when we did the podcast. I wanna get your thoughts on that, what's going on Perez Hilton?

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  Yeah.

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  Then there's a massive burrito debate, and I know this sounds weird, I don't know if you're following this or not.

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  Yeah.

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  Burrito debate shouldn't cost, a burrito shouldn't cost $20, says this young girl, who, uh, she's like, look, I, I understand there's a lot of stuff going on, but $20? Give me a flipping break. Bunch of guys have responded to it and, you know, we'll have a conversation about the burrito debate today, because it has to do with affordability and I think both sides need to know, there's a massive audience that's thinking about that, especially right now, since the jobs report came out a few minutes ago, with it being what, Tom? Minus?

• 4:40Speaker 03

  Down a little over 20,000, little bit of a surprise, we'll talk about.

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  They're not expecting that, nobody was expecting that.

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  No, they were expecting a little bit of a gain after last month and the month prior, and we got some charts we'll pull up from our own research.

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  Perfect, so that's the minus 22,000. And then we got, next thing, country music takes top 5 on the Billboard charts. What do you mean, countries taking top 5? Well, is it because the USAID money got out of hip hop and all the other places we were putting it? There's a lot of speculation, and we'll get into that. Number 6, when we talk about Tucker, Trump was asked about JD Vance, because a report came out that, uh, the president's going around telling people we should get behind JD, he should be it. He immediately jumped in and said some things, we'll play that clip for you, but there's an article that came out saying 2028 may be the first AI election? So we'll talk about that. Another two stories, which is kinda interesting. One of them says 5 reasons more Americans

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  are cutting off their own parents, according to psychologists.

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  Sorry, mom.

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  Yeah, and then the other one says, record number of US adults are moving in with their parents. So, how are you moving in with your parents, but you're saying you're gonna cut off your parents? Of course, it's a different age demo, but we'll, uh, we'll address that as well. And then WNBA, there's a rock star, folks. This guy's amazing. And he plays in Europe and he wants to come to the WNBA, and now they're saying they're okay with it. And Michael Porter and Lonzo Ball are doing a podcast, and they're talking about at what age they would have dominated the WNBA players. And Michael Porter tells a story of how he played against Sophie Cunningham when he was in 7th or 8th grade, and what happened to that game. Keep in mind, he's a 7th grader playing with WNBA players, and

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  he's breaking down what happened. He's playing with girls that are older than him. We'll play that clip. And then I got two other stories that we may get into. Robin Hood is now making more money from prediction markets than they're making from their actual business model that they had. And, uh, maybe a couple stories about Hollywood. And we got Antonio's relationship with Steve McQueen, you know, we used to go to this restaurant in, in Addison, it was called Neighborhood Services. Tom, do you remember the five?

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  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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  Faces on the wall. One was McQueen, okay?

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  Michael Caine.

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  Michael Caine is another one. James Dean was another one. Sean Connery was another one. And then who was the fifth one that was on the wall?

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  Paul Newman.

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  Paul Newman. Those were the five pictures on the wall, good call. Paul Newman was on the wall. So, we'll, we'll, we'll talk Hollywood a little bit as well, but with that being said, gang, if you're watching this, we are, I was in Las Vegas, uh, just yesterday, we got back from Las Vegas, we did our annual convention. This is the last convention I went to with PHB, had a great time. Congratulations to Hartz, uh, family and everybody else, and a great event that they put together with Marlon Teegerin, phenomenal as usual. But, uh, we are officially 3 weeks away from the Vault Conference, 3 weeks away from the Vault Conference. And for those of you guys that got CO tickets, Alex Spiro will be joining us in the CO session. Uh, Alex Spiro, if you don't know, he's Musk's lawyer, Bezos' lawyer, top 7 richest men in America out of top 10. He's their lawyer,

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  he's the guy that people fear. He'll be in there talking. And then, when Joe Montana and Jerry Rice interview happens, that'll be done by Stephen A. Smith. We're gonna have a good time. It's gonna be phenomenal. So with that being said, I want you to watch this clip, and, uh, and then I'll tell you more, and then we'll get into the podcast. Go for it. You know, a lot of some people will say, Pat, if I come to the Vault Conference, you're in the insurance industry, you're in the media business, you're in consulting. I'm in construction, I'm in dental, I'm a doctor, I'm a surgeon. If you come to the Vault Conference, you talk to the person to your left or your right, 100 plus industries will attend the Vault Conference, because strategies are transferable to any industry. HR, recruiting, raising money, hiring, firing, expanding in a new marketplace, marketing, storytelling, how to balance it all with your family, all of it is transferable to

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  any other industry. So whatever industry you're a part of, Vault Conference is for you. There you go. So if you haven't registered yet, go to vault2026.com, again, vault2026.com. Uh, come down, bring your spouse, bring your business partner, bring your peers, don't come by yourself. Let's spend 3 and 1/2 days together, network, deals, strategies, all of that. Again, go to vault2026.com, even if it's a general ticket, at a time like this, make the investment, get new strategies to take your business and your life to the next level. With that being said, let's get right into it. Tucker Carlson does a video announcing his 10-point plan, okay? And when we see this 10-point plan, you know, I'm

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  expecting a, you know, call out, you know, very specific, unique, what's gonna happen with it? And all of a sudden, you, you go through it and articles come out that the 10 points, what the 10 points are about, I mean, we can't really play the whole clips, I think it's about an hour and a half. But let me read to you what the 10 clips are, 10 points are. And I'll read them to you one by one by one. Okay? Point number 1, be fair. Okay?

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  Yeah.

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  One set of rules for everyone, presidents, billionaires, intelligence agencies, and ordinary Americans should be held, same, uh, uh, law. So point number 1 was about Epstein.

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  Yeah, that's, okay.

• 9:51Speaker 01

  Number 2, is sovereign. America should make decisions based on American interests, foreign governments, foreign lobbies, corporations, and wealthy donors should not dictate. Fair. That's about AIPAC, Israel, that's what he was talking about. Number 3, productive. America needs to make things again, rebuild manufacturing, agriculture, skilled trades, domestic production, rather than relying primarily on finance speculation. Okay. Number 4, beautiful. That's literally number 4, beautiful. Uh, A, make American cities and communities beautiful, again, reduce crime, graffiti, uh, public drug use and, uh, decay, but build places Americans are proud to live in. Okay, he's talked about that when he goes to Russia, he was amazed by the, you know, buildings and all of that. But the guy that's running

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  it right now is a real estate guy, who knows how to make things better than you, because he's a real estate guy. He knows how to make properties beautiful. Next, number 5, healthy. Americans should become physically and mentally healthier, improve the food supply, encourage sobriety, and question American dependence on prescriptions. So he was kinda defending what RFK was doing, and going against Anthony Fauci, so the enemies he's choosing. 6, honest. The government should stop lying to its citizens, reduce unnecessary government secrecy, and release important historical information, including the recording surrounding JFK, 9/11. Okay? That was the same thing in the previous one. 7, optimistic. Build America around the next generation, encourage marriage, children, strong families. Tucker's argument is that civilization survive.

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  When people believe their children have a better future ahead. Okay, future looks bright, optimism, I'm with it. Eight, wise. Education should teach reality rather than ideology. Teach practical skills, trade, history and fundamental truths about human nature. All right. Nine, decent. America should behave morally overseas, avoid unnecessary wars, acknowledge. Okay, non-interventionist. Ten, united. Protect American social cohesion. Tucker proposes stopping immigration while America determines what artificial intelligence will do American jobs. So he's against a lot of these data centers being built. Vinny, when you watched it, was there anything where you were like, this is amazing, this is awesome, he's going places?

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  And what do you think the motive of that video of I'm dropping the 10 points and a meeting with MTG, Joe Kent, Marjorie Taylor Greene? What do you think's going on?

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  Pat, I thought number 11 was gonna be hold hands and sing kumbaya. Like, I, no, no, and I'm not, with all due respect.

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  I'm with you.

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  You understand what I'm saying? Like, cause think about it, you see that, you see that right there. You see this dinner, this is a message, okay? Marjorie Taylor Greene, Joe Kent, Massey, and is it crazy? An hour before this, I, before this plan or anything was announced, I said, guys, who here would be the president, vice president, secretary of state, and who would be secretary of defense? And I was like, you know, Tucker probably president, Joe Kent Sec Def. No, think about it, Marjorie Taylor Greene or Joe, uh, Massey, who would be the vice president? But like, when you have this major announcement, and I was wondering, like, like, this is a nothing burger, Pat, absolutely nothing burger, because here's the thing, I agree with some of the things on the list, what's the plan? What legislation are you proposing? Who's leading it? How are you gonna pay for it?

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  Look, if you, cause if you think about it, I tell you, I'm like, like, these are basic, all it is, was basic adjectives followed by things Tucker believes.

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  Listen, you have a bunch of people sitting at a table right now who have made money from the political world doing absolutely nothing to help their neighbor. All right? With all their money and they're looking all nice and cozy at their table. That girl lives in some other country, that person, they travel in private jets, they don't deal with the American people. The stuff that he was talking about, for most part, it was like common sense. You imagine we live in a society right now where you have to teach adults how to live? I mean, I gotta teach you how to live, I gotta do this, or you've, we have greatest laws in our country, just follow the law, be a good person, and leave everybody alone. These people are dictating, sitting at the head of the table, over there, that dude right

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  there, who talks for this person, then he's against this person, they don't have integrity, my friend. Cause if you say something, I like this color.

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  You don't think Tucker has integrity?

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  At the end of the day, he's owned by someone and something. I'm not owned by anybody but God.

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  Bingo.

• 14:03Speaker 02

  All right? If Warner Brothers doesn't wanna hire me because I voted for Trump, I don't wanna work with you. That's why I started Gratwick, my studio that you can download. Things like that, I'll find another way. Maybe I wanna do the A-movies, but I'll do the A-movies 10 years down the line. What I'm saying, I back up what I'm saying 100%. I don't go and apologize. These people make money on other people. When they, when they ever help our country, when do these people ever help anyone?

• 14:29Speaker 01

  You think Tucker stands a chance in 2028 as a president?

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  No.

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  You think he will run?

• 14:35Speaker 02

  Uh, if it's good to sell books, if it's good for his career, I mean, these are selfish people with very big ego.

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  Do you think, you think about that cross, like, do you feel the same way about Ben Shapiro as well?

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  All of them, every one of them.

• 14:47Speaker 01

  So it's not just, you're not isolating Tucker?

• 14:49Speaker 02

  No, Democrats, Lib, listen, I ran for office and I realized something. I was fighting for a cause, I was the first celebrity to say Trump is my guy. Then I spoke at the RNC about Jesus and everything, and everybody, all my agents and everybody black listening to me, we're no longer represent you, you're sick to us, all right? Fine, I'll create my own life, I'll go and work in construction, I'll create my own life, I'll move out of the country, whatever I gotta do to survive for me and my kids. Okay, I got balls, so I back it up. But you guys over there, sitting down over there, like, all these people left and right, they don't do anything for our country. Our country is going into the trash can. We have the most unhealthy people in our country. We have the fattest people in our country. We have the worst food in our country. People don't exercise anymore, they talk about exercising, but now they're on peptides, drugs, you have to be drugged to lose weight.

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  We're living in a society right now where it used to be, 50 years ago, America was the greatest country in the world. 12-year-olds and 13-year-old kids used to train, do pushups, love our country, the flag, God, this and that, what do you got now? You got internet, people looking like, wear the baggy pants and going, you know what, I wanna vote for this, I wanna vote for that, everybody free, let everybody in our country, let's trash our people. I mean, there's no integrity, what I'm saying. And I'm saying that where are the people like you guys that back it up all the way? Even if you're wrong, you back it up all the way.

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  Yeah, that's interesting. Tom, what do you stand, with what you saw? When you, will you, first of all, if you don't mind, because you and I will analyze and we'll talk and say, what do you think he's gonna talk about? What did you think he was gonna talk about? And did it match what you thought he was gonna talk about?

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  No, I thought this was a big buildup to like some Super Bowl halftime show, that I, Tucker Carlson, with my reach, with my audience, which are significant, credit, I thought he was gonna come out with like a real platform about what it meant to be an independent party. That's what I thought. This had a lot of feeling in it, optimistic, wise, decent, and I'm like, wait a minute, it's the liberals that throw out the feeling in a speech with no program attached to it, with no policy attached to it, with no platform. I was very surprised by this, I thought it was simplistic, and I was looking for more considering the buildup.

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  Adam, your thoughts?

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  So, I'm not gonna do what everybody thought I was gonna do and just completely freak out on Tucker Carlson right here, so I'm gonna bring some stats and some facts, and you guys can fact-check me. Number one, Tucker Carlson, he was a registered Democrat for 20 years. 20 years!

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  Okay.

• 18:03Speaker 05

  Okay? Nothing wrong with that, but I just thought that'd be a good thing. Every single person that he's in that picture.

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  He said, you know his reasoning? He says, I did that because I lived in DC, and it was more of a strategic thing, not because I was a Democrat. He'll say that.

• 18:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's like me saying, hey, listen.

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  And he said he needed access as a reporter.

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  Yes.

• 18:22Speaker 05

  I get it, that's like also me saying, I'm straight, but all I do is go to gay clubs? Cause it's way easier to pick up chicks.

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  But you've been doing that for years.

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  PBD, that was your thing, bro!

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  It worked like math.

• 18:33Speaker 05

  That's my point!

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  Connection, Nashville, Tennessee.

• 18:34Speaker 05

  So you're proving my point, sir. But his collection of what I would call a crew of rejects. And I don't mean that like in a bombastic way, every single person that he was having dinner with, Thomas Massey, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Joe Kent, they've all been rejected by MAGA. Now you wanna talk stats, 2024, two years ago, Tucker's net favorability within MAGA was plus 54. Now it's just above neutral, and I give so much credit to the MAGA people out there, they're like, yeah, you switched up, bro. If you're gonna switch up, that's fine, but at least give a valid reason as to why. Now the last point with this crew of rejects and him switching up, this, this 10-point

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  plan, which I thought Anthony Fauci had the weirdest diary, this seems like a diary thing, three things that I have a problem with. Honesty, optimistic, and united. Honesty, he lost all credibility with me when he did that interview with, with The New York Times, and she goes, you've called President Donald Trump the Antichrist? I never said that. I would never say that, roll the tape, is this the Antichrist? I think it may be. All right, well, like, do you not know how the internet works, Tucker? We could just roll the clip from two weeks ago. Number two, optimistic. Listen, future looks bright all around us. Anytime I watch Tucker, it's the sky is falling, Russia's better than us, government's gonna take over, that doesn't seem like a very optimistic approach. And the last thing, united.

• 20:02Speaker 05

  You could say you're united, but respectfully, one of the most divisive characters in politics today and in commentary today is none other than Tucker Carlson. That's my issue.

• 20:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. So to me, I was expecting more. I think, you know, you could've gone specific with affordability and actually hit hard with a plan. Here's like, let me put it to you this way, imagine like how simple it is, we're gonna put more money in your pocket, and this is why, if I become president, there is no tax on tips. How easy is it to transfer to somebody else?

• 20:34Speaker 04

  I'm in, I'm all in.

• 20:34Speaker 05

  See, that's a policy and a platform statement that a voter can.

• 20:37Speaker 01

  If I take any of these 10 points and I ask you, go transfer that at dinner tonight with three of his policies, there's nothing to do. So now he may come back and say, guys, I'm not running. You guys are like getting this twisted, I'm just, I'm just giving you what I think needs to happen to America, because some are saying this is happening because, you know, they're getting behind JD and Tucker has no desire to run, right? Tucker has said, I will run as long as I get to debate Ted Cruz. I don't know if Ted Cruz is gonna be on the stage this year. You think Ted Cruz is gonna be one of the candidates in 2028?

• 21:07Speaker 05

  No, I do not.

• 21:07Speaker 01

  Maybe, maybe not, I don't see it. I see DeSantis, I see JD, and there's a lot of talks right now behind closed doors that even Rubio may not be running, like, there's no plans of Rubio running. And even yesterday, there's a story that came up that said, Trump is going around asking conservatives to get behind JD Vance and support him, and people are like, wait, getting behind JD Vance? I thought you were Rubio guy, now he's going behind JD Vance? So yesterday, reporter asks the president, hey, what is all this stuff with JD Vance? Look how quickly interrupts the person, watch this here, go for it.

• 21:36Speaker 08

  There's a report that you told donors that they need to get JD Vance elected in 2028. Is that your official endorsement?

• 21:43Speaker 09

  No, it's, I heard about it a little while ago, I think he's great, but we're way too early to even be thinking about that.

• 21:52Speaker 02

  Okay. That's the right answer.

• 21:54Speaker 01

  That's the right answer.

• 21:55Speaker 02

  That's the right answer. Yeah, cuz you know, he's got two years and he's gotta run his, his country and then, and then two years, we'll see. But also, two years from now, it's gonna be a whole different story. Every day's changing this country. Who knows what's gonna happen next week? But the fact of the matter is that after two years from now, our president is not gonna run.

• 22:11Speaker 01

  Change.

• 22:12Speaker 05

  I, I agree.

• 22:13Speaker 02

  What are they gonna worry about?

• 22:14Speaker 05

  I agree, things will change, but what will not change is JD Vance will be the vice president still, and these conversations are gonna happen. But you bring up JD Vance because I'm speculating.

• 22:22Speaker 02

  What about if JD Vance has a scandal between now and two years? What about if something comes out that he did something to a six-year-old? I'm, I'm just saying.

• 22:29Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 22:30Speaker 02

  This is politic work.

• 22:31Speaker 05

  What happens if COVID happens? I get it, but, but he's the vice president, that's all I'm saying.

• 22:34Speaker 01

  But, but wait a minute.

• 22:35Speaker 02

  But they'll put your eggs in a basket, that's what I'm saying.

• 22:37Speaker 01

  Let's get past this one. Here, here's a part to get past. Do you think this was a presidential election video? Or do you think this was just a rah rah motivational video? Hey, let's be united, let's be this, let's be optimistic, and I'm gonna give you, Tucker Carlson's message that he gave? You think he's running in 28?

• 22:54Speaker 05

  I don't.

• 22:55Speaker 01

  Okay, you think he's running in 28? Percentage, give the percentage. Where are you at? 5%, 10%?

• 23:01Speaker 05

  I'm lower than that. I think.

• 23:02Speaker 01

  You're letting 5%?

• 23:03Speaker 05

  Even if he does, honestly.

• 23:05Speaker 01

  Is he running or not?

• 23:07Speaker 05

  I don't think he is. Less than 5%.

• 23:09Speaker 01

  Running for what? President. Will he be on the ticket?

• 23:12Speaker 05

  He knows he'll get, he knows he'll get smoked.

• 23:15Speaker 01

  If you pull up.

• 23:16Speaker 05

  So he doesn't wanna lose publicly.

• 23:17Speaker 01

  Is it 15%? You're, you're saying 15% he's running? 10 to 15. Antonio, where are you at with him running?

• 23:21Speaker 02

  Oh, absolutely, he's running. He loves money, his ego is too big, and he's gonna run just for the heck of it. I mean, these people run not because they're gonna be elected. They run because they wanna put themselves elected on a pedestal.

• 23:31Speaker 01

  You're putting Tucker's running, so you're what? You're 70%, 80%?

• 23:34Speaker 02

  I'll go, I'll, I'll just put all my chips on the table and say.

• 23:37Speaker 05

  Really? You're going all in? Would you vote for him?

• 23:39Speaker 02

  No, never. Never.

• 23:43Speaker 05

  I'm, I am 40% that he's running, and I think he's seriously considering it to answer the question concisely.

• 23:50Speaker 01

  Where are you at, Pat? Okay, I appreciate that. I think I'm at 20, 30%. Okay, yeah, me and you are. And more and more it goes, remember, remember four years ago, three years ago, I said there's alliances being created, and one of the alliances was Trump, Tucker, and Elon, and Tucker went to X to put his interviews there, and the first 50 interviews he did, all Elon ever did is retweet his interviews and say, "Very interesting." Yes, yep. And those interviews got Tucker from 5 million followers to 16 million followers. Can you go on Tucker's X account to see how many followers he has? I don't know what he has, but he's gotta have, he, he's, he's definitely 10-plus million the last time I checked. It could be much higher than that. He could be in a 15, 16.

• 24:26Speaker 02

  17.

• 24:26Speaker 01

  17.8 million. That's presidential type of followers to be able to run. So I put it at 30%.

• 24:32Speaker 02

  Who does he follow? Who's, just check on the followers.

• 24:34Speaker 01

  It's himself. It's himself and his.

• 24:36Speaker 05

  Actually, you gave a warning.

• 24:37Speaker 02

  That just proved my point.

• 24:38Speaker 05

  Actually, I like to, let me say something.

• 24:40Speaker 01

  Make sure you get your nicotine pouches.

• 24:41Speaker 05

  Adam, there, there's, there's something very important that you said, and I'd like to go back to it. If the guys could pull up the clip. What Pat was talking about, when times get tough and things like this happen, you will be very surprised by alliances that form, and there'll be some unusual people that will be picking.

• 24:59Speaker 01

  These are weak alliances he created. You know why? Let me tell you why these alliances are weak. Nothing against MTG, nothing against Joe Kent. I don't know them. I've interacted with Joe a couple times. One time, 60 Minutes reached out to me, and they said, "Could you put me in contact with Joe?" I reached out to Joe, I said, "Joe, these guys are telling me to get in contact." He says, "Thanks for reaching out. I'm not interested." I've told him a million times, and so, but that's the only interaction I've had with Joe. Now, let me tell you, Massey and I, I've tried to have Massey on many, many times. He, he is concerned to be on because he's worried about one question I'm gonna ask him.

• 25:28Speaker 02

  Which one?

• 25:28Speaker 01

  And it, it, you know, it is what it is, but, so, but here's the thing. When you build alliances, and you're a Tucker, here's what happens if your alliances you're building are lower than you. You, you know what you're telling to the world if your alliances are lower than you? What are you telling the world? What is mind, I don't know if you understand the question I'm asking?

• 25:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know, yeah.

• 25:46Speaker 01

  So if, if I'm, if I'm trying to build alliances, and I'm building alliances of people that are under me, every one of these guys there, he's the alpha, right? Head of the table. So what are you doing building alliances below you? What are you telling the world?

• 26:00Speaker 05

  I'm the alpha.

• 26:01Speaker 01

  You're, what you're telling the world is, "I can carry the weight to the finish line." Okay, so guess what? Who can do that? Trump can do that. Can. C-A-N. He can do that. Reagan can do that, right? Certain names can do that. Like DeSantis cannot do that. DeSantis needs to create alliance up. Trump created alliance down, cuz he's already massive. He was an A-lister. He doesn't need to create a.

• 26:31Speaker 05

  24, we found out that Obama couldn't.

• 26:33Speaker 01

  If Tucker thinks for a second that it is, "I'm the guy," the market's about to decide and say yea or nay. So if he then decides to go up, what they're saying, the reason why the up has not happened, and there's obviously a very close relationship, his son worked for JD Vance for a year. So we know JD's a non-interventionist, and he's kinda trying to do this. And you know what's gonna happen with JD doing this? Do you know what's actually gonna happen with JD? It's gonna hurt JD. Rubio's going like this. Boom, I'm here. Rubio's, no, with this position, I'm here. JD's going like this. And the more JD's going like this, he's gonna be a John Kerry, he's gonna be a Romney, he's gonna be one of those guys that you're going like this. And look, just tell us what you're staying for, let's hash it out and make the argument. You know, "I don't think we should have

• 27:15Speaker 01

  any worse." Awesome, let's debate it. I don't think we should do, awesome, let's debate it. Versus, "Well, you know, I'm a little bit here, a little bit there." That's not gonna work out for him. So to me, if Tucker's taking his position of, "I'm the alpha, and your alliances are below, MTG, Joe Kent, these are not heavyweights. They're not gonna give you anything. You already have that base." You need to go, like, you know who needs to be in that room? Let me tell you who needs to be in that room. He needs to have that room be with somebody like a Peter Thiel, or a, you know, a, who's the guy from Nvidia? A, a Jensen Huang. Or you need to have Sergey Brin, or you need to have.

• 27:51Speaker 02

  Smart, very smart people.

• 27:53Speaker 01

  Or Elon's not gonna happen right now.

• 27:55Speaker 05

  That ship has sailed.

• 27:57Speaker 02

  No, they'll never work.

• 27:57Speaker 01

  I get you're saying that ship.

• 27:58Speaker 05

  Two years ago?

• 27:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:00Speaker 05

  Let me ask you a question.

• 28:01Speaker 01

  Let me tell you who defended him. Jason from the All In Podcast defended him. Can you, can you?

• 28:06Speaker 05

  I think they were roommates in college. One of those guys was Tucker's roommate, literally.

• 28:10Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 28:10Speaker 05

  So let's just move that away.

• 28:12Speaker 01

  But, but, but this is not even like, I don't get that.

• 28:14Speaker 05

  You think Silicon Valley's gonna get behind Tucker?

• 28:16Speaker 01

  Let me just explain my point to you. What I'm saying to you is, Jason, I think it's Jason.

• 28:20Speaker 05

  Calacanis?

• 28:21Speaker 01

  Uh, uh, yeah, he does a great job hosting the.

• 28:23Speaker 05

  Those guys are all great.

• 28:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:24Speaker 02

  It's a C.

• 28:25Speaker 01

  But I tell you, if in that room, a Chamot's in the room, if a Jason's in the room, if you have to say, "I got the All In Business guys that are in the room," you have credibility.

• 28:37Speaker 05

  You might get the, you, you might get the All In Business podcast from Qatar to show up, but those guys are on Team Mag at this point. Cuz isn't David Sacks the AI czar for Trump?

• 28:48Speaker 01

  He is. But just because David is, just because.

• 28:51Speaker 05

  But hasn't Chamot been very complimentary of Trump?

• 28:53Speaker 01

  Just because David is, that doesn't mean the other guy's. So, so, so you know, you know who should've been in that room? That would've been the perfect person in the room, Mark Cuban.

• 29:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 29:00Speaker 01

  He needs to have somebody like that.

• 29:02Speaker 05

  I see what you're saying, but none of those are good people that are going in the room.

• 29:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, so I, honestly, I was expecting, I was actually disappointed. Me and, me and Tucker are obviously not friends. We're not, you know, we're not best of friends and all this stuff. Everybody knows, openly, I called him out, and he called me out for, I think he said something about Catholic comments I made, and I told him, I said, "Look, everybody says I'm taking money, you're taking money. Why don't we just do a full-on audit by three different account firms? You show me," and he never got back.

• 29:26Speaker 05

  Did he respond to that? Never responded?

• 29:29Speaker 01

  I said, "Take every one of my businesses, and let's see how many deposits either one of us have gotten from any institution, and let's audit those institutions. Let's create a separate account of a half a million dollars." He never got back to me.

• 29:40Speaker 05

  You called him out publicly, he didn't even respond?

• 29:42Speaker 01

  But you have to realize, my call-out is not a call-out of rage-baiting. My call-out is.

• 29:46Speaker 05

  It was respectful.

• 29:47Speaker 02

  No, just facts.

• 29:48Speaker 05

  That's my point, it was respectful.

• 29:49Speaker 01

  But where I'm going.

• 29:50Speaker 05

  You respond to respect.

• 29:51Speaker 01

  As a person who loves the game of debate and competition and ideas, I actually am disappointed that he didn't put a better plan together. Give me.

• 30:00Speaker 02

  But I can tell you why he did that, my friend.

• 30:02Speaker 05

  You were expecting this, and you got this.

• 30:03Speaker 01

  I wanted to, I wanted to be so good that we are.

• 30:06Speaker 02

  The guy's above everybody else, Pat.

• 30:07Speaker 05

  We're covering this as the first story?

• 30:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:10Speaker 05

  Cuz we thought it'd be great, but it was.

• 30:11Speaker 02

  Patrick, you're dealing with a guy like, that is above everybody else when he wakes up in the morning. The only people that he can work with are people who are dumber than him, lower than him, you understand? He can't work with people who are smarter.

• 30:23Speaker 01

  Have you ever met him? Have you guys ever interacted?

• 30:24Speaker 02

  I've been in the same, at Fox, when I used to go there, we used to be around the same people and stuff. But I can see, you know, I have come, I can see the guy for who he is. See, Trump is a smart guy, but he also hangs out with people smarter than him. You see what I mean? Because guys like Trump wanna, wanna learn, wanna keep learning. A guy like Tucker doesn't wanna learn, he knows it all. So when you know it all, and you have people below you, you're gonna get a group like this to tell him what to do, because they'll do it, like sheep. So they're all sitting at the table going, "Yes, Tucker, you're the smartest guy. You're the king, you know, you're the goat. You're the goat." But there's a goat who goes fishing every day, doesn't even work out, has never done a push-up in his life. Listen, he can even walk a mile. So, but that's the guy who I'm supposed to listen to. And he's a smart guy, but when you show off like that, and you don't come with compassion.

• 31:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:09Speaker 02

  That's where he is, where he is. Look where he lives, in the middle of the woods, away from human beings, with animals. Because that's the only people, animals are the only things he can respect, his dogs, and he respects animals.

• 31:19Speaker 05

  Four dogs in his bed.

• 31:20Speaker 02

  He respects animals more than humans. Come on, and that's that way.

• 31:24Speaker 01

  I think that was a very good breakdown of, whether some people agree with you or not, I think it's a very good breakdown to say, I like it. It's to say.

• 31:31Speaker 02

  Look at the dog behind him. Look at the dog behind him. You see what I mean? That's the queen. That's his queen.

• 31:36Speaker 01

  The dog photo. Let me tell you, the fact that you found that dog, I know you're good at playing the game.

• 31:41Speaker 02

  Look at the walls.

• 31:42Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 31:43Speaker 05

  Where's Pedro? Validity to him, are you ever the smartest guy in the room? I see all the meetings you're in.

• 31:48Speaker 01

  Me?

• 31:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, you.

• 31:48Speaker 01

  Dude, every time I'm in the room, Tom's ahead of me.

• 31:52Speaker 05

  Well, you, you also have Vinnie there.

• 31:53Speaker 01

  Tom's gooder than, gooder than we are.

• 31:55Speaker 02

  He's kind.

• 31:56Speaker 01

  As long as Tom's in the room, I'm not the smartest guy in the room.

• 31:59Speaker 05

  Exactly. Exactly. You're smart enough to know, you don't need to be the smartest guy in the room.

• 32:03Speaker 01

  No, you don't. By the way, neither is Trump.

• 32:05Speaker 02

  No, that's what I'm saying.

• 32:06Speaker 01

  Trump's not the smartest guy in the room. But, but, but let's go past this. So I wanna go to the next topic, and I'm, I'm curious to know what you guys will say about this. Because they're saying 2028 will be the first AI election, and this is on page five, if you guys wanna go to it. 2028 will be the first AI.

• 32:23Speaker 01

  Election. This is an Axios story, which, Tom, I'm gonna come to you first on this one. I'm curious what you're saying. And Antonio, I'll come to you.

• 32:30Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 32:31Speaker 01

  So, we're headed to the first true AI election. This will be the first election cycle where AI is both a dominant policy debate and a wildly deployed political weapon. AI allows both candidates and bad actors to persuade and perplex with unprecedented speed, scale, and precision in our election. Watch what works as those same techniques will likely be used against you. Number one, persuasion bots. Campaigns are training tech bots to hold back and forth conversations in their candidate's voice. Some voters engage for hours, granting precise knowledge of what ideas and language moves them the most. Yale researchers found a bot that admits it's a bot, it's just as persuasive to people as one posing as human. Powerful. Number two, simulated voters.

• 33:15Speaker 01

  Political operatives are running AI agents that mass-produce synthetic voters and test ads against them. This helps fine-tune the perfect message, including any words and image, before it ever reaches any actual human voters. Number three, AI firehose. Those Yale researchers found AI conversational persuasion doesn't practically scale, and noted that flooding social media could be the cheaper play. My bet amplifying pre-existing views will win out and in turn, that'll shape how LLM language learning models answer future questions asked by voters. A huge new battleground will be attempting to mold what the most popular LLM, Claude, Gemini, Grok, and ChatGPT, say about candidates and their views. Tom, thoughts?

• 33:59Speaker 03

  And what's interesting is they left perplexity out of that list, and I think that's probably the best deep researcher, according to people I talk with. So, the first thing they bring about is how AI can be used as a fair tool. A persuasion bot.

• 34:12Speaker 01

  While you're doing that, while you're doing that, hey, guys in the back, can you do me a favor? I'm sorry, Tom, to interrupt you. Can you do me a favor? Ask the same exact question on four different LLMs. Ask, who is more likely to win 2028 election? J.D. Vance, Newsom, Rubio, or AOC? And why? Ask the same exact questions on the four, and ask for stats, and let's see how they each answer the question. Go for it, Tom.

• 34:41Speaker 03

  So, first of all, it's the two ways that AI can be used as a tool. Persuasion block simulated voters. That's using it in a fair way. Here are the three areas that scare the hell out of me. The AI firehose? When they say AI firehose, what they're talking about is overwhelming. People check out the likes and the comments before they go into the substance of the likes and the comments. It's like, Vinny, Adam, you're both up on social media, so we'll see something, maybe a comment about the WNBA by a notable person that we know is a real person, and we go, wow, 2,100 likes and 14,000 comments. Holy crap. Right? And so, we see that, and we, right now, AI can over-flood that with bots, making a

• 35:23Speaker 03

  comment look bigger than it actually is to real, actual voters. So, that is the fake amplification I worry about, Pat. But here's the other two things I worry about. Speed. The speed of which a fake news or a fake story can flood social media, be mistaken as real, and then flooded with likes and comments, is gonna mean that voters, that the opportunity for voter deception is very, very high. And that is the part that worries me, Pat, is how quickly can the social platforms, it's basically X, Facebook, and Insta, those are the big three, how are they gonna be able

• 36:03Speaker 03

  to monitor if there are fake news stories going out in an election, and somebody is being unfairly smeared, one way or the other? That's the one I worry about, Pat. I don't worry about the first two, which are tools. I worry about the fake news, filtering it by the socials, and then responding so that the voters can see, oh, my gosh, that was a BS story. I can't believe that.

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• 37:14Speaker 02

  My friend, this is what I think about this whole thing. I even go beyond that, because both parties will have their ways how to deal with their elections.

• 37:22Speaker 01

  Yep, that's what I said, both sides.

• 37:23Speaker 02

  Both sides will control that, and they will have billions of dollars, but who controls them, is the point. We're controlled by the matrix, by people in higher places who control the whole shebang. So, I wanna go beyond that, because if you're looking at the parties or the individuals, it's too small, because they're controlled by somebody and something and something and something. They controlled the media for all these years, they controlled the outcome of the media, they controlled the outcome of what the media is saying, and they brain-own everybody else, especially the young voters, because they'll follow anybody off the cliff. It's like that guy with the flute, remember that story?

• 37:55Speaker 03

  The Pied Piper.

• 37:56Speaker 05

  The Pied Piper, who led all the rats, or whatever it was?

• 37:58Speaker 02

  So, who has the bigger pipes? Who can reign can bring everybody in, but who controls the politicians? That's why I don't trust anybody, and both parties are wrong, because after all, they use America, our taxpayer money, to buy everything, and they fly, they do, they do, they do, they buy all these homes, and nobody says anything. Nobody gets in trouble. Listen, we have the Tate brothers down the street with rats, and they haven't done anything, and they were dealing with these politicians who have done malicious, evil things, who are running our country. So, it's very dangerous. How are you gonna fight that? How are you gonna? The people actually have to rebel and go, you know what, we're enough of this. We're gonna fire everybody. After Trump, we're gonna fire everybody. Everybody's fired from, you know, they're done from the political world, then we're

• 38:41Speaker 02

  gonna hire everybody else, based on morals and everything else that is truthful.

• 38:45Speaker 01

  Adam, your thoughts?

• 38:47Speaker 05

  Well, I'm gonna disagree with our friend Antonio, even though you're way better-looking and cooler than me. I'm just gonna tell you right now, you're conflating both parties as if they're both bad.

• 38:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:56Speaker 05

  I can assure you, one is way worse, and I'll let you do the math.

• 38:59Speaker 02

  Sure, but they're both bad.

• 38:59Speaker 05

  On which party is way worse? That's like, hey, I broke my arm, or I died and I got ran over by a car.

• 39:05Speaker 02

  But you broke your arm, and I'm the good party, but I'm not helping you. What I'm saying is that both parties.

• 39:09Speaker 05

  The government's not here to help me. You gotta help yourself.

• 39:11Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 39:12Speaker 05

  Exactly. Forget about waiting on the government for anything.

• 39:14Speaker 02

  Then help yourself first.

• 39:15Speaker 05

  And then ultimately, that's my answer on this thing. Everyone, we're talking about this AI thing, we're talking about AI, it comes down to three letters for me, Y-O-U, and they're talking to you. They're basically saying, your mind is about to get taken over. You cannot, for the first time in human history, you cannot believe your lying eyes. We're no longer living in the information age. Information is readily accessible. We're now living in the validation age. Is what I'm seeing even true, bro? And what was the number one thing that the World Economic Forum said the world should be very scared of? Misinformation and disinformation. So, you're telling me in a world where...

• 39:56Speaker 03

  Who said that?

• 39:57Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 39:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:58Speaker 05

  Touche. You're telling me in a world where most dudes, not most, a good percentage are like, yeah, yeah, I'll have an AI girlfriend, I got nothing going on. Me and my AI girlfriend, Barbara, I'm having a great time. So, Vinny, I love Vinny, I'm not calling you out, I'm just saying, one time, Vinny said he got in an argument with this guy online. They're going back and forth. You've done this before.

• 40:18Speaker 02

  Ah, we all have.

• 40:18Speaker 05

  You're arguing online. I barely turn on my phone after I post something. I go, Vinny, Pat just said that 51% of the internet is, are bots. You might have been arguing with a bot, bro. Vinny goes, oh, I might have, bro. Like, that's the reality these days. And then the saddest thing was this part, where they said, Yale researchers found that if a bot admits it's a bot, people will still be like, yeah, it's okay. Like, what? Like, people are just down to get fooled and tricked. And this is why, you know, you talk about the K-shaped economy.

• 40:53Speaker 03

  Meanwhile, Claude said it deceived researchers and broke out of its...

• 40:56Speaker 01

  Let me ask this question, Tom. Of the people that are gonna get fooled by bots, were those people already gonna vote one way anyway, or how many of them can you flip?

• 41:06Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 41:06Speaker 01

  Let me ask the question.

• 41:07Speaker 02

  That's a good question. That's a really good question.

• 41:09Speaker 01

  So, you got the people that are the 40, 44, 42%, whatever, that they're gonna vote in a way that you can't change your minds. Take the people, are those guys flippable? I know that's not even a word. Are those guys that...

• 41:21Speaker 03

  Every election, there's a 10 to 12% that flip.

• 41:23Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying, the 10 to 12.

• 41:24Speaker 03

  So, you're right.

• 41:25Speaker 01

  So, what percentage of the 10 to 12 would fall for some of these bots that are being shown and highlighted? And, you know, 50? The other day, we showed a video, right? We showed a video on Valuetainment, on what happened with SpaceX, right? And then Elon retweeted it. I don't know if you saw this video. If you wanna go on X, go on the Valuetainment Twitter account.

• 41:47Speaker 03

  The Falcon 9 that crashed into the moon?

• 41:49Speaker 01

  Yes, so, we posted this video. Go a little bit lower until you find it, and this got picked up and went viral all over. No, keep going lower, it's a video. Keep going lower, keep going lower. You'll run into it. Keep going lower.

• 42:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, and it's fake.

• 42:02Speaker 01

  It's a video that was posted...

• 42:05Speaker 03

  Shout out to her.

• 42:05Speaker 01

  Two days ago, is what it was. Oh, my God.

• 42:08Speaker 03

  We tweet, I love it.

• 42:09Speaker 02

  There it is, there it is.

• 42:10Speaker 01

  So, if you watch this video, okay? Watch this. A SpaceX rocket crashed into the moon, leaving a 100-foot crater. Okay? Pretty good-looking video right there.

• 42:20Speaker 03

  Fantastic.

• 42:21Speaker 02

  It's a nice movie by Ridley Scott.

• 42:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. No video footage of the SpaceX rocket impact exists, as it was not visually observed. The crash is confirmed only by tracking data, and the crater has not yet been imaged. So, they created this video to say if it would have happened, this is what it would have looked like. Elon retweeted it, if you go a little bit...

• 42:41Speaker 03

  He retweeted it?

• 42:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, he retweeted it.

• 42:43Speaker 03

  Because he knew it was fake?

• 42:44Speaker 01

  No, no, he just retweeted the video for the audience to see. A discarded SpaceX Falcon 9 upper stage impacted the moon at roughly seven times the speed of sound, releasing energy comparative to about three tons of TNT. The impact created an estimated 30-meter crater that is too small to be seen on Earth with the naked eye. This video is AI-generated.

• 43:06Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 43:06Speaker 01

  To provide visual context. Now, Grok confirmed that statement, right? So, okay, so, there's gonna be things that videos are gonna show of, an event that took place that's not recorded. That's one way of showing things. But there's gonna be videos that are gonna be created to manipulate the hell out of you, and those things go viral. You know, and can it even be like where... You know, the lips are moving, you know, they're moving, but it's saying a completely different thing.

• 43:33Speaker 02

  Right, of course.

• 43:33Speaker 01

  The technology is so.

• 43:35Speaker 02

  Getting better every day.

• 43:36Speaker 01

  Right now.

• 43:37Speaker 02

  Every day.

• 43:37Speaker 04

  And imagine in two years, and you made a great point, this AI version is talking about calling people and speaking as the candidate and like, who's fault, like for instance, and it's to me, Pat, the voting block you're talking about is the older people that are getting scammed. Like when somebody called you.

• 43:54Speaker 02

  All the time, every day.

• 43:55Speaker 04

  And I'm just being honest, because this happened to me two days ago. Mr. O'Shaughnessy, your Amazon account was, I go, bro, shut up, and I hung up on him. So imagine that older.

• 44:03Speaker 02

  What about the IRS calling people every day?

• 44:05Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  Who calls it? All these people answer the phone, yeah, the IRS, they get scared, and then they call and they stay on the phone, like if you don't hang up the phone, the police is coming.

• 44:13Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 44:13Speaker 02

  You ever get those calls?

• 44:14Speaker 04

  My mom almost got duped by that.

• 44:15Speaker 02

  I got that call.

• 44:16Speaker 04

  Yup. So my point is, if you think about it, it's actually a little bit scary, I think it could go towards the older people, but if you guys think about it.

• 44:22Speaker 02

  No, even the young ones, because they're just, it's the same.

• 44:25Speaker 04

  But the majority of, like, if I get a phone call.

• 44:27Speaker 02

  Bro, when I was on General Hospital in 94, people called me by my name, they thought I was that character. That was in 94. We're talking about, they're getting inside their brain and they're owning them. Like, that's it, that's the one to go.

• 44:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, but like, for instance, like, me and Pat have a funny thing that we do, like, when we get random texts, I'm pretty sure all of you guys get it. We have, because when we're bored, we're sitting on a plane or whatever, we go in. I don't, I don't pick up any phone call, I don't recognize, well, oh, I responded to the text.

• 44:53Speaker 02

  And then what happens, you're in it, you're in it, as soon as you respond.

• 44:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, so I can see how the old people, but my, my point is, like, think about this, and you made a great point, because if we're in an election month, Adam, a month, it's happening, right?

• 45:04Speaker 02

  Every day, 24 hours a day.

• 45:05Speaker 04

  By the time you see a video, nobody's sitting there trying to confirm, especially those people, that automatically becomes truth, because if you think about it, during the Biden administration, during the election with Trump, they had the DOJ and the FBI going to Twitter, suppressing stories, not letting stories. Meanwhile, the mainstream media is clearly, clearly, left-leaning and Democrat-leaning, and all the late-night shows are all leftist, but I just think, you know, journalism, you made a great point, Adam, journalism, guys, all this is dead. It's up to you guys, and I'm telling you right now, it has to be you to go out there and verify and double verify and say, is it real?

• 45:43Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 45:44Speaker 04

  Is it real?

• 45:44Speaker 02

  Yes, yes.

• 45:45Speaker 04

  And that's, and guess what, it's gonna slow down your conclusion thing, Adam, but you gotta figure out, is that really Trump with this crazy hair saying that he's, that you have to look for?

• 45:55Speaker 05

  Ladies and gentlemen, I will always say Vinnie's brilliant because of that point right there.

• 45:58Speaker 02

  It's true.

• 45:59Speaker 05

  Okay, I'm gonna, can I, you just triggered something to me that I have to say. Pat, tell me if you remember this, who members in school, stop, drop, and roll? Everyone knows that. There's a fire, you do that, and then there's a famous song that came out that said, stop, collaborate, and listen. Shout out to Ben Eliz, in the AI age these days. So you don't basically go down the rabbit hole of not knowing what's going on, we need to develop something. And you just said the right word, verify. Stop.

• 46:27Speaker 04

  Stop.

• 46:27Speaker 05

  Think.

• 46:28Speaker 04

  And check.

• 46:29Speaker 05

  Verify. That life is actually what.

• 46:31Speaker 02

  Now stop, they can use your brain, that's what you gotta do.

• 46:33Speaker 01

  We're good, we're good with the story, let's go to the next one. Guys, Adam's giving life-changing advice, hopefully you guys took it.

• 46:39Speaker 04

  Hopefully you do.

• 46:40Speaker 01

  Let's go to the next one. All right, in Michigan, there's a guy named Abdul El-Sayed who won the Democratic Senator primary race, and there's been a lot of controversy behind it. One of the things that's very interesting is with this guy, he is telling a story about how his OnlyFans, how his Instagram algorithm, all it does, I want you to watch this, and this went viral, I watched, at first I kept seeing this guy like this, and I'm like, why is, why does it show in this video, why is this going viral? This guy's a pretty smart guy, by the way, I think he won valedictorian when he graduated, he's not a life, but I think he's a doctor, I think he's, he's done stuff, so it's not like he is very well-spoken, but this is one of the things that he said that is just extremely funny, and everybody retweeted and said, should we tell him? Watch this clip, go for it.

• 47:25Speaker 10

  If you're on Instagram, my team has, has access to my Instagram account, and like, the things that I actually look at on Instagram, right, of course we get served that on your For You page, but then like, every third video that scrolls on its own is gonna be some OnlyFans model, and it's because it clocked me as being a 40-some-year-old man.

• 47:44Speaker 01

  Did you guys get it?

• 47:46Speaker 05

  It clocked him.

• 47:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:47Speaker 05

  It clocked him.

• 47:48Speaker 02

  Is that true for him? That's what he looks at?

• 47:49Speaker 01

  No, but what he's saying is, I don't know if you know.

• 47:51Speaker 05

  That's what he looks at.

• 47:52Speaker 02

  That's what he looks at, he's just, he just said, I look at porn.

• 47:55Speaker 05

  Antonio, please check what Vinnie's explore page is.

• 47:58Speaker 02

  Check your phone.

• 47:59Speaker 05

  No, no, I'm asking, what do you think you're gonna see on Vinnie's phone?

• 48:02Speaker 02

  I would say legs, and.

• 48:03Speaker 04

  Oh, what do you see?

• 48:04Speaker 05

  What do you see?

• 48:05Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 48:05Speaker 04

  What? All animals.

• 48:07Speaker 05

  It's all animals.

• 48:08Speaker 04

  I don't think it showed that, because I do voiceover.

• 48:10Speaker 02

  You know why?

• 48:11Speaker 05

  Just means that's all he watches.

• 48:12Speaker 04

  And I stay not interested because I don't want that in my.

• 48:14Speaker 05

  But he's also kinda into like, be scally a little bit, I don't know.

• 48:17Speaker 04

  That's disgusting.

• 48:17Speaker 05

  I'm kidding, I'm kidding. But the point is, you were, you were making the point, Pat.

• 48:21Speaker 02

  So he looks at porn every day, that's what he does.

• 48:23Speaker 04

  If that's on your algorithm, that's who you are. I'm sorry, that's what you're looking at.

• 48:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, he just proved it. He looks at naked girls, feet, boobs, butts.

• 48:32Speaker 05

  Here's Tom's. Formula One, car restorations.

• 48:36Speaker 02

  That would be mine.

• 48:36Speaker 05

  Golf. There you go. Guys, I'm gonna sit this one, I'm gonna plead the fifth.

• 48:40Speaker 02

  Let's check our phone, to see what we're looking at.

• 48:41Speaker 05

  I'm gonna plead the fifth on my page.

• 48:42Speaker 01

  Do it, do it, what do you have?

• 48:43Speaker 05

  What a great presidential debate. Hold up your Insta. I showed it to my.

• 48:48Speaker 04

  Okay, go ahead.

• 48:49Speaker 01

  Mine is fighting, I got politics, I got baseball cards, I got bodybuilding. Vinnie, this is what I got here.

• 48:57Speaker 04

  I see it.

• 48:58Speaker 01

  Okay, so that's, that's what I got here.

• 49:00Speaker 05

  I'll let you validate this.

• 49:01Speaker 01

  Business content, Muhammad Ali, Chaz Palmentary watches.

• 49:04Speaker 05

  I'm gonna let you validate, because you're, oh, it's all chicks, what is it? Comedy? Basketball?

• 49:10Speaker 01

  Grinder.

• 49:10Speaker 05

  Come on, Pat, don't put me out like that. Come on, Pat, what do you see?

• 49:16Speaker 01

  No, it's a lot of basketball and comedy is what you have.

• 49:19Speaker 05

  There we go. So like.

• 49:21Speaker 01

  But, but here's the thing, so let's go to it.

• 49:23Speaker 05

  And grinder.

• 49:24Speaker 01

  So if, if, first of all, him winning.

• 49:26Speaker 05

  What is Hot Men of the Velvet Lappel?

• 49:28Speaker 01

  The clip from Hassan Piker, I think it's, because Hassan Piker, right now, the Democrats are receiving.

• 49:33Speaker 04

  Like, everyone being like.

• 49:33Speaker 01

  Here's what he had to say about this candidate, two Democrats, watch him, go for it.

• 49:38Speaker 04

  Like, everyone being like, Abdul has a fuck-ton of work to do mending bridges, here's the fucking take-nuke for you, okay? You are all unbelievably Islamophobic pieces of shit, okay?

• 49:49Speaker 05

  Oh, God.

• 49:50Speaker 02

  Why do they have to, why do they have to go like that?

• 49:53Speaker 04

  Well, I'll tell you, because.

• 49:54Speaker 02

  See, they're not Democrats, the Democratic Party doesn't exist.

• 49:56Speaker 04

  Well, can I, I'll tell you something right now, if I may, because that guy, the guys like that are the scum of the earth, okay? Their families aren't from here, they come here, and all they do.

• 50:07Speaker 02

  Can we set up a boxing match with me again?

• 50:09Speaker 04

  Oh, no, but.

• 50:10Speaker 02

  Can we do like a celebrity boxing match?

• 50:11Speaker 04

  I wanna, I wanna, I wanna say this piece about people like Hassan Piker, and I'm gonna get into this Abdul El-Sayed who says, if you can't say my last name, I'll say whatever the hell I want, okay? This guy has openly said, Hassan Piker, not patriotic, this guy dresses up, cosplays like Mao from China, he has no identity, he's just, he just goes with the wind, he says, like, he wants to soak in capitalist blood, he says to kill freaking politicians, this guy is the most anti-American, when I signed up for the military, they said, you make an oath to protect this country from enemies, foreign and domestic, that's the domestic one that they keep talking about that nobody really sees, okay? Those are the guys, okay, and he's representing this guy, this guy, Abdul El-Sayed.

• 50:55Speaker 02

  And the Democrats want him to win.

• 50:56Speaker 04

  He's not a socialist, okay?

• 50:58Speaker 01

  Are you surprised, though?

• 50:59Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, I'm not, but what I'm saying is, and I want, and you mentioned it kind of earlier, this, this, this fight that's coming, guess what? I'm ready for it, and I know a lot of Americans are too, because this guy, Pat El-Sayed, he wants, he's not a socialist, he's worse, he wants, he supports Sharia law, he wants to defund the police, he wants to support decarceration, he wants people out of jail, abolish ICE, supports total amnesty, backs Medicare for all, including illegal aliens, they all have the same thing, he supports a billionaire tax, and the DSA backs him, he came, campaigned with known communists, bro, Hassan Piker is a freaking communist, okay? And then, buddy, there's a counterterrorism expert, Pat, it was, he was in front of Congress with Ted Cruz that we were talking about earlier, Kyle Scheider, I guess, he testified about

• 51:43Speaker 04

  this guy, he said that his ties to MGA, which is close ties to the Council of American Islamic Relations, and his father-in-law's leadership roles in the Muslim Brotherhood linked organizations, then he confirmed that the Muslim Brotherhood partners with Democratic Socialists of America, and Michigan voters deserve answers about this guy and who he is, and I hope, guys, the fight is here, it's no, no longer, A, they're coming and they're whatever, because the goal is what? The goal is what? Put as much people, flood the system, try the Sharia law, but I'm telling you right now, they came to the wrong effing place, and I'm sorry, Pat, because it's true. And people are worried about these people, I'm not, because I'm gonna bring on the fight.

• 52:22Speaker 01

  So there's a clip of him being asked to disavow Hassan Piker, and I think he refuses.

• 52:29Speaker 04

  Obviously.

• 52:29Speaker 01

  If this is the clip, go for it and play, go ahead, we got two clips to play.

• 52:32Speaker 11

  He said that you need to renounce people like the left-wing streamer Hassan Piker, who was campaigning with you, who was out there in Michigan on Monday night, I believe, last night as well, do you have any plans to do that?

• 52:46Speaker 06

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side, but Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians' healthcare to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors, he's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor, she's for us. Paid for by HMP, the House Majority PAC dot com, not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

• 53:17Speaker 10

  Look, I'll tell you this, I'm less focused on folks who are campaigning with me, more focused on the folks I'm campaigning to, and I think it's important to stay in touch with the folks who you want to elect you.

• 53:27Speaker 02

  Good rehearsal, you rehearsed that a thousand times, the people told you what to say and all that stuff with the little smirks.

• 53:33Speaker 01

  Very well spoken, never underestimate the power of a great communicator, this guy's, if you see how he speaks, play the clip.

• 53:40Speaker 10

  Allies are launching is already more bitter, all I gotta do is look at the ads you're already watching on TV, started today. You know, they think that you wanna use my whole name against me, Mike, listen man, if you can't say the name, it's Abdul Rahman, keep the name out your damn mouth.

• 53:57Speaker 04

  Abdul Rahman.

• 53:58Speaker 02

  Look, look who's clapping, look who's clapping.

• 54:01Speaker 04

  White liberal woman.

• 54:02Speaker 02

  Look who's clapping there, look, look, they're so happy, they don't even understand what he said.

• 54:06Speaker 10

  But they understand that the only way that they think they can win.

• 54:09Speaker 01

  The difference between him and Mamdani is Mamdani is able to hide his rage and anger.

• 54:16Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 54:17Speaker 01

  This guy's rage and anger comes out.

• 54:18Speaker 02

  Open, open door.

• 54:20Speaker 01

  Rage and anger comes out, so we'll see, I mean, look, the person he went up against, Adam, you were saying she looked like, who, what did you say his opponent was?

• 54:28Speaker 05

  Oh, look, the girl that he beat in Michigan is like a female Chris Farley, they say, but she's entertaining, the Haley Stevens.

• 54:35Speaker 04

  But how much money did she spend, how much, but this should be a warning, like, they spent so much money on her and you didn't win, this is the epitome of the Democratic Party right now.

• 54:45Speaker 05

  Hey, Michiganders, what's going on here? Haley Stevens here, we have to beat this Muhammad guy.

• 54:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, but.

• 54:52Speaker 05

  No, literally, I mean, there's, there's footage of it. Prove me wrong.

• 54:55Speaker 04

  Can I ask you a question?

• 54:56Speaker 05

  This guy Abdul Muhammad is gonna come.

• 54:58Speaker 04

  But let me ask you a question, how did, how much money, Connor, can you find out, how much?

• 55:02Speaker 05

  Yep, a lot of money, Vinnie.

• 55:04Speaker 12

  I am gonna be working on our behalf, I am gonna be telling the stories on our behalf, and you better believe I'm gonna be doing it with a little bit of joy, a little bit of enthusiasm, a little bit of arrogance.

• 55:18Speaker 05

  This is Tommy here, Tommy here, leaving in a van down by the river.

• 55:22Speaker 01

  Vinnie, go for it.

• 55:23Speaker 04

  You're so stupid, I don't even know what my point was.

• 55:26Speaker 05

  Vinnie, we gotta get on the right track.

• 55:28Speaker 01

  How much money was raised?

• 55:29Speaker 04

  So my point is, my point is, look at where, and we've talked about this before, I'm not gonna beat the dead horse, look at where the Democratic Party is right now, the person that they really wanted was her, that's why they put all the money, all the donors, you can't win with a guy because guess what, when we talked about the affordability and everything that's happening right now, this youth, this young movement, all those liberals and the people, I don't see any Middle Easterns, where all the Abdul, where, where y'all at behind him?

• 55:54Speaker 02

  It's a show.

• 55:55Speaker 04

  It's all white people and liberals that are gonna be voting for this fricking guy, because guess what the promise is, free stuff and to hell with rich guys, rich guys, people like Pat and Elon, they're the problem, are you stupid? You know how many jobs these people are, are, are creating, you know, they're moving the markets?

• 56:10Speaker 05

  Tom, I know we wanna move on, but words talk, numbers scream, how about some numbers? We can pick on her all we want, he beat her by 1.1 points, so let's, let's, let's objectively look at her and say, that's a weak candidate, man, that is not an inspiring candidate, and here's what happened, there was a surge in the, remember, two things about elections, emotion, emotion, emotion, turnout, turnout, turnout, this was, you ready for this, Pat? This turnout was the biggest turnout for a summer primary in Michigan history, so in other words, the people turned out to vote in the primary and took it seriously, and

• 56:53Speaker 05

  he won by one point.

• 56:56Speaker 02

  But the Democrats controlled the votes, remember, I ran for, for office and I won my primary in California, one of the, you know, I mean, it was the bluest state in every way, shape or form, they win by controlling the votes.

• 57:07Speaker 05

  But this was their primary, this was their primary, but now, let's look inside, what happened, take a look at her candidacy.

• 57:15Speaker 02

  Right.

• 57:16Speaker 05

  She carried African-American vote outside of the, the deep blue center cities, number one, number two, when it was 40% had a college degree and female, he wins by 10 points, there's your angry, angry, middle females vote, and lastly, number scream is, the pollsters that were out there had him winning, the Democrat-leaning pollsters had him winning by 10.1 points, the RCP, Real Clear Politics consensus a week before, had it by 10, it turns out to be one, this is gonna be closer than people think, and what we can't miss, Pat, is underneath this, he's got trouble with the Michigan voters, with the, the black voters, he's got

• 57:59Speaker 05

  trouble, who were not buying this, so we can see the headline, he wins, but underneath, not by much, against a weak candidate.

• 58:07Speaker 01

  We'll see what's gonna happen there, Adam, you look like you still wanna talk.

• 58:10Speaker 05

  I haven't said anything yet.

• 58:12Speaker 01

  What do you wanna, you haven't, you've screamed, screamed like a million times already.

• 58:15Speaker 05

  Not on this story.

• 58:16Speaker 01

  Really? You didn't scream on the Chris Farley and all that stuff?

• 58:19Speaker 05

  I did talk about Chris Farley, but I didn't make my point yet, you want me to go?

• 58:22Speaker 01

  Go.

• 58:23Speaker 05

  Okay, well, you know, my dad is from Detroit, my dad's from Michigan, we've showed some videos here, which we can pull up, I actually respect this guy, um, why do I respect this guy? He's telling you exactly who he is, and I respect that, number one, my dad's from Detroit, Michigan, we can play those clips in a second, uh, this guy went to the University of Michigan, he roots for Go Blue, he gave a great speech as a valedictorian or something in 2007, you went to Michigan, you graduated, my dad went to Michigan, respect to you, that's where the respect starts to wane, um, if, I actually respect the, the move that they're doing, if you have a radical base in certain cities, in Dearborn, or in Minneapolis, or, or in LA, New York, you know that you have 20, 30, 40, 50,000 people who are going to vote

• 59:08Speaker 05

  for you, it's a smart approach, I respect that, now, who are these people, this constituency, I have some questions about, the, the biggest litmus test that I have, Pat, is what do I always rock? The American flag, my litmus test is, how do you feel about the flag? And I'm very certain I know how MAGA and most Americans feel about the flag, then there's this whole corner on the left with this horseshoe right, that I don't think they like the flag, I don't think they.

• 59:36Speaker 02

  No, I have no respect for the flag, yeah.

• 59:37Speaker 05

  Like, Hillary Clinton went famous in 2016, what did she call the Trump voters? The basket of deplorables, this, this basket of haters hates America, they hate the foundation of America, and ultimately, it's gonna be the MAGA.

• 59:51Speaker 02

  Why are they here?

• 59:52Speaker 05

  Versus the DSA, and that's what's gonna happen, now, this is what I saw when I went to Michigan, just at the airport, I, I, I thought that I was in Israel and I saw less of this.

• 1:00:03Speaker 01

  Play this clip, we played this clip a couple months ago.

• 1:00:04Speaker 05

  I'm in Detroit, and just wanna bring you into speed on what's going on here. There's a couple other videos, but they're all, so if that's what you want America to look like.

• 1:00:13Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:00:14Speaker 05

  Cool, vote for that, but I think America does not wanna look like Sharia law.

• 1:00:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:19Speaker 05

  And that's why I think this guy's gonna lose.

• 1:00:20Speaker 01

  And this is also why I think 2028, the DSA's gonna be a topic you cannot avoid, and an AOC stands a massive chance of being the candidate, whether you like it or not, she's going to be formidable, because Newsom's lied so much that even Democrats are getting tired of Newsom.

• 1:00:38Speaker 05

  Do you know the name of the candidate that's running against Al-Sayed?

• 1:00:42Speaker 01

  Who?

• 1:00:43Speaker 05

  His name is Mike Rogers, remember that name, Mr. Rogers, he's like a typical Republican Mr. Rogers neighborhood, so in Michigan, they're gonna have a choice between Mr. Rogers or Hezbollah.

• 1:00:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you know how you win these campaigns, in, in reality, because I ran it, how much money is he raising? If he raises 500,000 and the other guy, this, this, this individual that we're talking about raises 1 billion?

• 1:01:04Speaker 05

  1 billion?

• 1:01:05Speaker 02

  Why not?

• 1:01:06Speaker 05

  Well, I mean, we're talking tens of millions of dollars in this race.

• 1:01:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I'm saying, they raised so much money, the girl I ran against, that doesn't even live in my district, and she lives in Santa Monica somewhere else, but she was able to raise so much money in donors, 25,000 here, 50,000.

• 1:01:22Speaker 05

  Was she part of the DSA?

• 1:01:23Speaker 02

  And the Republican Party did not support anybody in California.

• 1:01:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:28Speaker 02

  They don't get, I got like 5,000 dollar checks from some senator or whatever, I mean, they get hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars, that's how you win.

• 1:01:35Speaker 05

  Follow the money.

• 1:01:36Speaker 01

  Let me get to the next story, next story is Perez Hilton, so, Vinnie, you come to me, you said, Pat, there's a video, do not watch, so I never watched it.

• 1:01:42Speaker 02

  Don't watch it.

• 1:01:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, I never watched it.

• 1:01:44Speaker 02

  Don't watch it.

• 1:01:45Speaker 01

  There's a video, do not watch, and everybody, all of a sudden, we get, you know, family, is this the video of telling us what's going on, not necessarily the video of what happened? Go ahead and play the clip.

• 1:01:53Speaker 13

  Was being seen taken into an ambulance moments ago outside of a home in southwest Miami Dade. A sheriff's office says that a man was inside the home live streaming acts of self harm on social media. A couple of neighbors are telling us that the man inside the home is celebrity entertainment blogger Perez Hilton, but the sheriff's office has not confirmed that with us tonight.

• 1:02:18Speaker 01

  So we know, we now know it was him. His family came out and spoke out. Celebrity blogger Perez Hilton was hospitalized after a TikTok livestream on Tuesday during which he appears to self harm himself with a knife. You were telling me literally blood was coming down, showing a bloody torso and face. The Miami Dade Sheriff's Office responded multiple calls claiming Hilton was live streaming the self act and a tactic to reduce the likelihood of suicide by cop encounter. Hilton was later safely transported to a local hospital. His family and team posted a message on his website confirming he's receiving medical care and asking for privacy. We kindly ask that you respect Perez's privacy as well as the privacy of the family during this difficult time. They're aware of concerning content circulating online, but had not been able to make direct

• 1:03:02Speaker 01

  contact with him despite ongoing efforts. So Vinnie, what happened to you?

• 1:03:05Speaker 04

  Well, well, first of all, you know, what makes this like very, very heartbreaking because by the way, a frog by that knows him and you, you know, and I'm pretty sure you're going to talk about him here in a minute, but like it's heartbreaking to me. By the way, I knew who he was. I don't really care about that, that world, but just weeks ago, he was on camera, emotional Pat, in a hospital apologizing for his past, which as Christians, I don't care what anybody says, there's only one judge. I try the hardest and you know this Pat from, from, I, I try and I pray. These people drive me crazy, but at the end of the day I have to pray for them. But that's a whole other story that we're getting into, but he was making promises. He had the Bible and he's like, I'm sorry. And it wasn't a fake theatrical crying. He was crying and saying, I am so sorry. And the tears were streaming because Pat, he was in hospice for 21 days.

• 1:03:50Speaker 04

  He got septic. Well, he got septic because something happened. He didn't take the, he took flu medication or something like that with an empty stomach and put an ulcer, opened up a hole. He got septic. He wasn't doing well. He came back out, then after that he got a freaking blood clot right after that, almost died. They had to remove it. So it's really, really bad, but there's something like else that's disturbing. Thousands of people were watching this happen online. They were begging him to stop. By the way, when I tell you guys, and for some of the people that are out there, do not wa, it is one of the most disturbing things, Pat. I thought it was fake for a second because it was so red.

• 1:04:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, it looks like a horror movie.

• 1:04:25Speaker 04

  It looked like a freaking horror movie, but people were reposting it. This is the guy's darkest moment, guys. Okay. And people don't want to talk about this. That's what we've gotten with, with our freaking lives and our social media and everybody's judging people. Okay. Someone can be falling apart, literally cutting himself open and instead of helping, they grab their phones, they record it, they make content and they share it. Yeah. Well, you know what people need to do? Pray for this guy. Pray for him and hope, okay? Because finally-

• 1:04:51Speaker 01

  Did you ever have anything with Perez?

• 1:04:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, we, we talked in the past. He has, you know, he was, he was at one point, one of the biggest, you know, first streamers.

• 1:04:58Speaker 04

  Influencer, yeah.

• 1:04:59Speaker 02

  He would talk about celebrities. He had, he had a voice, a big voice, but we're dealing with a guy who has probably heavy addiction, who hasn't really dealt with the addiction. He has people that he, he's trapped in his house doing streaming all day long, talking about all kinds of stuff, but inside he's burning, he's dying. He needs help. He needs to go to a place to get clean. You need to be there for a long period of time. I know about recovery, recovery as we know in the, on this table, and it takes a lot of work. You need to, you can't just say thank you, God, and that's it. He obviously maybe went back to some drugs, maybe he went back to some stuff he was doing and all of a sudden, when I was in treatment, I remember guys, they were, they were coming in to give us speeches and they were great guys who got clean for a long time. And I remember this guy named Anthony from New York.

• 1:05:43Speaker 02

  He had his life all put together, right? He came in and talked a speech, I recovered myself, I battled this addiction and now look at me, I have hospitals, I have this. A week later he died. It took one ounce of cocaine and he was dead. So we're dealing with people who as soon as you put the poison back in of any kind, mental or whatever, you fall.

• 1:06:03Speaker 01

  Was he a drug, was he a drug guy that-

• 1:06:04Speaker 02

  He's gotta have something going on.

• 1:06:06Speaker 04

  I think so. And you, you just made me remember something, Antonio, like especially when you're saying like, and, and I saw this, Pat, this is the first thing I saw because when I saw it, I saw, literally I thought he was possessed by-

• 1:06:15Speaker 02

  Look at his eyes.

• 1:06:16Speaker 04

  It was insane for the people that saw it. But then I say this all the time, Antonio, because I, we talk about this a lot on here because we know as, as Christians, you know, the closer you get to Christ, the spiritual battle is crazy. And Mike Tyson said it perfect. He said, he said, when you're favored by God, you're also favored by the devil and he's coming for you too.

• 1:06:33Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 1:06:34Speaker 04

  He wants you and you have to be strong and stay on the right side. And I saw it, Antonio, when I looked at this, bro, for the-

• 1:06:38Speaker 02

  He was possessed.

• 1:06:39Speaker 04

  It looked like he was possessed by something. I don't know if it was drugs or whatever, but the more you're, because think about it, I'd never seen this guy with the Bible and all the years that you've known Perez Hilton. Bible, Christ, crying, Christ save me. When you do stuff like that, even the devil goes, wait, wait, who's talking, wait, who's trying to be, bring people away from me?

• 1:06:57Speaker 02

  Was he allowed and did he allow himself to really see and, and have Christ in him?

• 1:07:02Speaker 04

  I don't, yeah, that's the question.

• 1:07:03Speaker 02

  You understand? Because when Christ moves in you, he moves in you. So I think, you know, also we're dealing with being on camera all the time, the attention all the time. We're dealing with give me, give me, give me, I need to have. So there's all that, it's not just him by himself dealing with this issue. He was sharing it with the world.

• 1:07:19Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:07:20Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? Kids, teenagers, who knows what's watching? Mom, look what I'm watching. Look, mom, look what's going on. What do you do? So it's only going to get worse. People are going to do these things and I pray for him and I hope he gets clean and his family's with him because only Christ can actually fix him now.

• 1:07:36Speaker 01

  One of the hardest things to do as you at one point got a lot of attention and you no longer do is how to manage the decline of attention.

• 1:07:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:48Speaker 01

  Right? Because you know who, who goes through that? You know who goes through that?

• 1:07:51Speaker 05

  Athletes.

• 1:07:52Speaker 01

  Everybody.

• 1:07:53Speaker 02

  I went through.

• 1:07:54Speaker 01

  I, I don't care who you are, everybody. Podcasters, YouTubers, content creators, celebrities, athletes, politicians, you know, people that used to be talked about on a daily basis, then that goes away. Wait a minute, Time's no longer writing about me, this thing's a, Sarah Palin would go here and then all of a sudden we would, all right, this is going to be the next guy. And how you deal in that phase is an art. Some can handle it, some cannot handle it. It is very difficult to go through.

• 1:08:23Speaker 02

  Look at Trump, he lost, right? He could have said goodbye, but he came back stronger. You gotta learn from people like that because when you're broken, when you have everything and then you have nothing, that's the place to say, you know what, I'm going to do it again. I'm going to show it and I'm going to pick myself up and I'm going to do it again.

• 1:08:38Speaker 04

  Weren't you reading a book, something about that? We were talking about in, in Rhode Island about having that and then being up there and then it goes away. I think Alex told you about this book?

• 1:08:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:08:48Speaker 04

  I think so.

• 1:08:49Speaker 01

  Oh, oh, oh, it's from strength to strength, strength to strength.

• 1:08:51Speaker 04

  Strength to strength.

• 1:08:52Speaker 01

  Arthur C. Clarke, strength to strength. Yeah. What, what do you think about this year, Perez Hilton?

• 1:08:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, Perez, Perez Hilton should be dead right now. So number one, shout out to the Miami Dade Sheriff's Office and Sheriff's Office and Fire Rescue. Shout out to Sheriff Rosie down there, but I knew Perez Hilton back in my old Kardashian days and I'll just say, he wrote some sleazy stories that I knew it was my first time dealing with media and that wasn't my world and my best friend married Kim Kardashian. I was in that world with Chris and Chris Humphries.

• 1:09:27Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:09:28Speaker 05

  And they wrote some sleazy story about me and Chris. I was like, that makes no sense. All right. So I was like, all right, thanks Perez Hilton, gotcha. But then he was a big deal. He was like the original TMZ people, oh my God, Perez Hilton wrote about you. It was like, okay, it's kind of a weird story. But that was like 12 years ago. And then I remember one time I was in the Miami nightlife scene or whatever a little bit and one time like the owners of a big club were like, yeah, this guy wants to come in, he wants a table, it's, he's with Perez Hilton. The guy goes, so? They still gotta pay. And, and my point is there was a time where he would have been center table for free and now you gotta pay for a table. You know this.

• 1:10:08Speaker 05

  And you talk about like fall from grace, like I see NBA players that come to Miami there, and then it's like, then they're retired three years later. It's like, what, what's your name again, bro?

• 1:10:17Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:10:18Speaker 05

  And if you don't reinvent yourself and become a new person, this is, this is kind of how you end up. So I hope that-

• 1:10:25Speaker 02

  But it takes faith to get you there. You see what I'm saying?

• 1:10:27Speaker 05

  I totally agree.

• 1:10:28Speaker 02

  You don't have it.

• 1:10:29Speaker 05

  I think he's got a, a second lease on life and I hope he finds faith in God and cleans himself up.

• 1:10:34Speaker 01

  Antonio, who did you see, who did you see in Hollywood do that right?

• 1:10:35Speaker 02

  Do it right?

• 1:10:37Speaker 01

  Got big, disappeared, nobody cared and they recreated themselves and came back. Who did it right?

• 1:10:41Speaker 02

  Me right now, I'm doing it right. Me, I'm doing it right because, because, because-

• 1:10:47Speaker 02

  They all had to succumb to

• 1:10:49Speaker 01

  Well, why don't we do this? Why don't we do this? For the audience, hang on, hang on. For the audience to understand. At the peak of your fame.

• 1:10:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:55Speaker 01

  Tell us what your life looked like at the peak of the peak of the peak.

• 1:10:59Speaker 02

  All right, talking about material stuff, you know, it was, it was making deals, producing things, getting in the room, having representation like the biggest agencies, entertainment lawyers be on your side.

• 1:11:10Speaker 01

  How weird was life? If you walked into a room, you went to a club, you went to a restaurant, how royally were you being treated at your peak?

• 1:11:17Speaker 02

  Uh, just red carpet all the way. Like private jets, red carpets, events in Monte Carlo, hosting shows, celebrity meetings with people like, you know, just presenting at the, you know, at these award shows all over the world, being able to do movies anywhere, doing three, four movies a year. Um, TV shows, Aaron Spelling calling me, you want to do this for me? Things like that. Going to the basketball.

• 1:11:41Speaker 01

  You were at Melrose Place as well, right?

• 1:11:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, going to the All-Star Games, playing with Michael Jordan, you know, playing hoops with Holyfield, uh, hanging out with Tyson and De La Hoya or people like, just, you know, things like that. And then when you speak your mind about something you're passionate about and you disagree with them.

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• 1:12:28Speaker 02

  And you have a voice because they're scared of that voice. All of a sudden, they treat you like you never existed and you have leprosy. And all those people and all those agents and managers, everybody else included, they treat you like you don't even exist and they want to push you aside. All they, as soon as you hear your name, boom, you're done, you're done. You're in 10 years, 11 years, like they will hold that because they fight for their community, for their gang, you know, for their, for their, and I said, you know what? I can let this thing break me. And even my family at some point, like in the last 11 years, they said, don't, don't ever act again. Don't ever make any movies again because it's over. And I'm like, it's never over, man. I don't care if I have to live under a bridge. I'm going to keep making movies. I'm going to keep doing my own thing. Even if I make movies and nobody sees, I'm going to keep doing what I want to do.

• 1:13:11Speaker 02

  And I'm not going to let these people beat me because they will never beat my, my, my strength that I have inside. And I could have, I could have, I could have went like this guy. I could have went addiction, whatever.

• 1:13:20Speaker 01

  What's the story with McQueen?

• 1:13:21Speaker 02

  Well, McQueen and Chad McQueen, his son, his son was a great guy. And me and him hung out and my dad, and, and McQueen was one of those guys because it was James Gardner, Paul Newman and McQueen. And they all thought they were race car drivers and my father was the best out of all of them. My father was the best race car driver of all these people. James, James Gardner was a great guy. He always thought that he was a race car driver, but he wasn't. Now you have Paul Newman who became a race car driver in time with Haas and his team and Indy car racing and all that stuff. He became one because he wanted to learn. And then there was Steve McQueen, who was born to be a race car driver. And there was only him and me because I'm still racing. He raced all the way. He did motocrossing all the way.

• 1:14:06Speaker 02

  He did rally all the way. McQueen loved to race. My father loved to race. They loved to be at the racetrack. They couldn't watch a race because they wanted to race in it. You know, Jackie Stewart, a two or three time Formula One driver, him and my father would take, would talk racing, right? And as soon as they got on the track, it wasn't, it was like, I'm going to beat you, even a world champion. That's how we are as racers, right? And Steve McQueen was one of those guys that I adore. My family, my father, uh, just big fans. And then I got the chance to spend a lot of time with Chad, his son. And Chad had a huge accident at, at Daytona and he was in a coma for three months. And those, those three months and he came out, he couldn't race anymore. So we talked a lot.

• 1:14:50Speaker 02

  I caught a lot about Steve and what kind of person he was. He was generous guy. He was a, just, he was a top man. He was number one for me. And my father and him had a lot of stuff in common. And, um, and I had great respect for those guys back in the day because we don't have a lot of those guys nowadays. Guys nowadays, leading men, they're all a bunch of pussies. All right, they're all a bunch of pussies because, you know, I asked all these guys to fight me last year in a celebrity boxing match and they were like, oh, I'm going to beat you up, pretty boy. I'm going to beat you up. Okay, the contract is there, do it. And they all walked away and I don't want to mention names.

• 1:15:21Speaker 05

  Oh, you got to.

• 1:15:22Speaker 02

  Bro, I fought last year for my first fight. I want to fight again. I want to do things that will make me happy. I want to race cars and I want, and I want to showcase that it's never over until he says it's over.

• 1:15:32Speaker 05

  You don't think there's any masculine men in Hollywood at all?

• 1:15:35Speaker 02

  Not many because they all take.

• 1:15:36Speaker 01

  Who would you say is masculine?

• 1:15:38Speaker 02

  I think the last of the Mohicans is Tom Cruise. Okay, he's the last of the Mohicans that he can actually back it up. And I think, I think Brad Pitt has learned how to do some stuff here and there. But he's still like corn fed, you know, he's, he's a country boy. But I, but as far as toughness, toughness, you know, like really tough inside without having money and private jets and all that stuff, who can really? Charles Bronson was tough. Do you see anybody like Charles Bronson right now? Charles Bronson was a freaky.

• 1:16:06Speaker 01

  Jason Statham?

• 1:16:08Speaker 02

  He was a diver. He, he used to be a diver. I dove too, like professionally he was diving and then he became a stockbroker and then he learned martial arts. I think he could fight and all that stuff. And I think he probably won, yeah, I think Jason, I think Stallone was at one point. Um, Schwarzenegger, no, he took too many steroids. Steve Reeves back in the day was a real guy.

• 1:16:29Speaker 01

  Sir Universe.

• 1:16:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's just different times. There was different guys, you know, they smoked cigarettes and they went lifting.

• 1:16:34Speaker 05

  Did they ever ask you to wear a dress like they wear these guys these days?

• 1:16:38Speaker 02

  They did.

• 1:16:39Speaker 05

  Straight up?

• 1:16:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, they did. I wore, I wore it in the big hit and the big hit with Mark Wahlberg. There was the, the character was, it was, he, he used to like cross dress and win these, these, uh, these contests wearing women dresses and stuff. And it was cut out as in a DVD, but they asked me to do it and I was like, I'll do it. But I did it because I'm fearless. You know, I played guys who were, you know, gay or whatever for fearless. I'm fearless, I'm straight, I love women all my life. But I want to showcase that whatever they put in front of me, I'm going to do it. So that's the type of guy I am. You have one life, one life to live. So be yourself and don't be afraid of it.

• 1:17:11Speaker 05

  What is that whole dress thing and why they always ask those?

• 1:17:13Speaker 02

  Oh, like they put you in dresses. Well, when you become hit, you know, they want to own you. They want to, they want to put you and embarrass you, you know, and they want to do that. To me it was different, it was part of the character, but I did it anyway. But there's a lot of people, you know, John Cena naked at the Oscars. What was that about? What was that about?

• 1:17:26Speaker 05

  Humiliation ritual.

• 1:17:27Speaker 02

  I mean, why would you want to do something like?

• 1:17:29Speaker 05

  And in multiple dresses.

• 1:17:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, so, but he's walking naked in front of the world at the Oscars.

• 1:17:33Speaker 05

  Why do they do that?

• 1:17:34Speaker 02

  That's why the Oscars is not even coming on, it's coming on YouTube next year. Bro, the Oscars will be televised on YouTube next year. No more like, you know what I mean? Like the Oscars went down, who watches that stuff? They've destroyed the entertainment and I want to keep it alive. I want to keep the leading men doing their thing and being classy with elegance. And then we don't have a lot of those left. I really, we don't, we don't.

• 1:17:55Speaker 01

  Well, let's go to the next story. That, that takes me right into a burrito story.

• 1:17:59Speaker 05

  Nice.

• 1:17:59Speaker 01

  This is great. All right, burrito debate. It's a big thing going on right now with this burrito debate. They're calling the burrito gate. And I don't know if you have the clip ready in the back or not, but the story with burrito gate is an intra-conservative argument over affordability that began with complaints about grocery store prices and crystallized around one sentence from a college student. A burrito shouldn't cost $20. The dispute is only superficially about Mexican food. It's real question is are Americans facing a genuine structure affordability crisis or a cost? By the way, is there a video on this on the back, in the back? If you have a video on it, let's pull it up with how this video got started. Then people started responding to this. Uh, Matt Walsh said grocery prices are insane.

• 1:18:42Speaker 01

  They are still rising, addressing this problem should be the number one priority of every. Okay, got it. Of every elected leader in this stupid foreign wars and focus on this issue. It's one of the main reasons socialists are gaining power. That's Matt Walsh. Then you have Andrew Kovach who said, one of our TPUSA college students gave me his take on affordability. A burrito shouldn't cost $20. Yeah, a lot of this is a hangover from COVID and Biden era inflation, but the lived experience is the same. The lived experience is the same. It just feels like basic things cost too much. Then you have Joel, we got a few other guys, JD Vance, I'm surprised to hear Musk say this. If you ever met in person, it's quite obvious the man has never missed a burrito.

• 1:19:27Speaker 01

  Is that actually a real tweet or no? Because Mark Thiessen said, cry me a river, the burrito in college cafeterias are included in your meal plan. So that was a turning point that's coming from here from this guy. And then Ben Shapiro said, I hear that young people are upset about $20 burritos. Okay, young people, a burrito does not cost $20.

• 1:19:45Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 1:19:46Speaker 01

  If you're paying $20 for a burrito and you're not independently wealthy, you're doing life wrong. We have enough problems as a country without insane expectations that the government is going to provide us gourmet quality burritos. And Dan Crenshaw said, just hearing about this dumb $20 burrito debate. So just thought I'd make the losers on social media angry before going to bed. Stop whining, get a job, eat ramen like the rest of us did in college on a budget with four roommates. The market doesn't care what you are thinking should cost. Only communists care. They set prices, remember that every, then everyone starves. Are you a communist or are you even an American male adult capable of handling his own shit? So what, what are your thoughts, Tom, with this burrito story?

• 1:20:30Speaker 05

  So I think the Republicans that are quoted missed the point. They missed the point. If you were to ask.

• 1:20:38Speaker 03

  Me, my wife, Bailey and Brooke. Hey, is it hot out today? I'm the guy that loves summer. I deal with the heat and it's okay. Brooke is the swimmer. There's two other members of the family that like the air conditioning in the summer and are not real summer people. So the word hot to everybody means something else. But if we're all, if we're all in here and say, man, the air conditioning is not working. Now you have a point. What's going on here is Andrew Clove, Clove went out and it's one of these, you know, TPUSA encounters on college campuses. And a person says this and it was a rational person. Well, you have to step back from it. You don't say, oh, come on, man. When I was in college, I ate ramen noodles.

• 1:21:23Speaker 03

  Let me tell you, I got a college junior in Houston, Texas, and she tells me what food costs at places around. And it's, it's up. It's up over the last five years. And she has a meal card and she only uses that. She's very disciplined, but just going out Chipotle or whatever, treating herself to a bowl, I hear the prices. Now, true, if you do a deluxe full loaded Chipotle burrito and you get it delivered with a drink on DoorDash, it's probably going to cost you 20 bucks. You gotta pay the DoorDash fee and everything that goes with it. But what the Republicans should have said is, look, it's not about the burrito. We need to do something about affordability.

• 1:22:05Speaker 01

  That's what Matt Walsh was saying in his tweet.

• 1:22:07Speaker 03

  Yep. And that's exactly what Matt Walsh said and Matt Walsh is absolutely correct. But to have, everybody is getting their quote out there. Stop whining, get a job, beat ramen noodles. Wow. You know, giving the finger to voters verbally like that and just kind of the, the dust off, that is not the winning play. And this is something you and I, Pat, have been talking about. You have to not only acknowledge the affordability, but we need to be talking about what to do about it.

• 1:22:33Speaker 01

  So, so I just pulled it up right now and I asked the question, tell me the average price of a burrito at Taco Bell and Del Taco. Okay. Taco Bell is 375 and Del Taco is 425. Okay.

• 1:22:46Speaker 03

  I don't think that's what you were talking about.

• 1:22:47Speaker 01

  Then Taco Bell, the typical burrito includes cheesy bean and rice, whatever, buck 49, bean burrito, 249, beefy five layer, 429 to 499, grilled cheese burrito, 540, I'm getting hungry by the way, 549, 599, cantina chicken burrito, 599. Del Taco, their most expensive is the deluxe burrito that goes all the way up to 649, the epic burrito, 799. And then I asked the next question, how much did these things cost? A taco cost 30 years ago, 1996, then five years ago, then today? In 1996, 30 years ago, if you bought a Taco Bell crunchy taco was 79 to 89 cents.

• 1:23:28Speaker 01

  In 21, and that's 25 years later, went from 89 cents to buck 49. That's not a lot. To go from 89 to buck 49. And today that buck 49 is at $2. So it's up 50 cents, 33% is up in the last five years. Del Taco went from 99 cents to buck 69 to 279. U.S. median household went from $35,000 a year in 96 to $71,000 a year in 2021, which means your income 2X median household income, but the price of taco didn't 2X. So just so you know, the price of, so it's actually the exact range of your income. And then today it's $84,000.

• 1:24:12Speaker 01

  And so $84,000, the last five years, the median income has only increased, say 20%, where the price of a taco has increased 33%. So last five years, that kind of does make sense. And I think, I think I'm with you, Tom, in a part of affordability. If you, if you talk to young guys about not realizing what they're going through, there needs to be a message of both. Whether you gotta be able to understand how tough it is, but you also gotta be able to challenge them at the same way. And we're gonna see how this messaging is gonna land midterms and 2028. It's, this is a real topic of discussion that's gonna come. There's a, can you imagine right now if you're watching this? Are they really talking about burritos?

• 1:24:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:24:51Speaker 01

  How the hell does a burrito story go viral on X?

• 1:24:54Speaker 02

  Can I add to that, please? Can I say, just say, first of all, out of all the cuisines around the world and dishes, burrito is the easiest thing to make. You just put it in there, warm it up, put some chicken on top and beans, done. And salad, whatever. So learn how to make that and then you won't have a problem. I mean, anybody can make a burrito, even a blind person. So it's, so to pay $20 because it's the brand. There's a, there's a shopping mall, there's a grocery store in Venice, California where a medium sized shake is $30. Okay? Just berries, water, maybe some sugar, whatever. But people, because they live in LA, they like to be fancy. Oh, do you want to have a $30 shake? It's really good. It's the best in the world.

• 1:25:38Speaker 02

  You get out for two people at this grocery store, you will spend $1,000. $1,000 for two people at the grocery store. And they're building these because the celebrities go there. It's hot, it's the most expensive, it's the best fruit, it's this and that. Just get the fruit, wash it.

• 1:25:54Speaker 01

  What's it called? What's the name of this?

• 1:25:55Speaker 02

  I don't remember. It's in Venice Beach. Find out. It's, I was there last year because I don't live in California anymore, but I, I was training for my fight and, and I passed by this place and I heard about it and I checked out. I didn't go inside, but we're talking about high, high prices, right on Venice Beach, Venice Boulevard and Abiqui. Venice, Venice Beach and this, and they, yeah, I mean, look at the prices on this stuff. I mean, it's ridiculous. Like a little burrito is like 40, 30, 40. I'm, I'm, I'm giving you some real numbers here. This is crazy. And they'll go there just because maybe the Kardashian went there or whoever went there and they'll, yeah, how much is that thing?

• 1:26:33Speaker 03

  I think there's another part to this.

• 1:26:35Speaker 01

  Go for it.

• 1:26:35Speaker 02

  Yeah. So basically I'm just saying that it's, it's about.

• 1:26:38Speaker 01

  Go make your own burrito, in other words.

• 1:26:39Speaker 02

  Make your own burrito or follow the herd and be a sheep.

• 1:26:42Speaker 01

  Adam.

• 1:26:42Speaker 03

  This is a burrito story, but it's not a burrito.

• 1:26:46Speaker 01

  It's an affordability store.

• 1:26:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly. I mean, look, you go to Taco Bell, you said it's three, four bucks. You go to Chipotle, it's 10, 12 bucks. You go to, you go to my spot, Bodega, it's 12 to 15 bucks, but it's the best burrito you've ever had because we're in Miami and we're in Florida. Now, if you go to California where they've raised the minimum wage to $25 an hour, how much you think your burrito is gonna cost in California, guys? So if you, everyone fighting for minimum wage, increasing the minimum wage, you can do that, but you also can't complain about the price of your burrito. Can't do both. Because the more that you increase the minimum wage, who's working making?

• 1:27:20Speaker 02

  But also the taxes in California, the tax businesses, left and right.

• 1:27:24Speaker 03

  So it's a math issue. It's a minimum wage issue and it's a very emotional issue. It's your food, it's your marketplace. Things cost money. You decide where you go to go shop. Go get the best burrito you can afford, but don't cry poor because you want extra guac.

• 1:27:38Speaker 01

  That's your message?

• 1:27:39Speaker 02

  That's expensive to do.

• 1:27:39Speaker 01

  All right.

• 1:27:40Speaker 03

  Just saying, extra guac, that's.

• 1:27:42Speaker 01

  Tom, any final thoughts on this?

• 1:27:44Speaker 03

  Let's get back to affordability and let's do something for the American voters and getting, looping this all the way back to Tucker. What are the specifics they could do? Pat and I, you and I could do it on energy and data centers and a lot of other things. That's what people want to hear about.

• 1:27:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:59Speaker 03

  That was beautiful.

• 1:28:00Speaker 01

  So let me, let me, let me, let me go to this next one because this WNBA story keeps going viral and one of the stories on WNBA is Lonzo Ball and Michael Porter Jr. They're sitting down doing a podcast and they're asking, they're, they're being forced now to talk about this topic because there's a guy that's transgender in Europe. I don't know what country it is, Vinny, that he's averaging 20, 20.

• 1:28:20Speaker 02

  Boris is French.

• 1:28:21Speaker 01

  And, and there's a female, this, this guy right here.

• 1:28:23Speaker 03

  Look at my boy right there.

• 1:28:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:28:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:28:25Speaker 01

  This guy right here who.

• 1:28:27Speaker 03

  Please sign her.

• 1:28:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. If, he said, if they contact me, I won't say no. And then there's another WNBA player that said, I wouldn't have any problem having transgender in the WNBA. Then there's the real topic, which is NBA players talking about what could have happened if they played against WNBA players 10th grade, 11th grade, 8th grade? At what grade would they have dominated? Look what they had to say. And they're trying to do their best to be respectful. Watch this.

• 1:28:54Speaker 14

  And I mean this as respectfully as possible, but 9th grade Lonzo Ball in the WNBA is going crazy.

• 1:29:03Speaker 02

  He's going like, all right?

• 1:29:05Speaker 14

  Because look, in 9th grade, I'm over six feet and I'm dunking, like I'm coming through the, like, no girl in the WNBA is doing that. I'm going back door, throw it up, like, I'm looking like Jordan out there. So I'mma just say. And I mean this so respectfully.

• 1:29:20Speaker 02

  So great senior.

• 1:29:21Speaker 14

  Middle school down, I give it to the WNBA.

• 1:29:24Speaker 15

  I'm, I'mma go, probably 8th grade. Because look, but I, I have real experience doing this because I played, um, my sisters went to University of Missouri and I was still a young dude and they had me playing like on the scout team. And they had a few WNBA players on the team, like Sophie Cunningham and a couple others. And I think I was like in the seventh or eighth grade going dumb. I'm talking about, like, so I have real life experience, like.

• 1:29:47Speaker 14

  It's not physically fair, bro.

• 1:29:48Speaker 15

  This is a difference, man. And I, I wish this was stopping the conversation because it should be common sense, but like, it's just not. But I appreciate, you know, common sense. I feel like sometimes that's lost a little bit.

• 1:30:00Speaker 03

  Look at the size of this guy on the right. His name is Michael Porter Jr. How tall? He's six foot 10.

• 1:30:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:30:06Speaker 03

  In the NBA, what position does he play? Small forward.

• 1:30:10Speaker 01

  Three.

• 1:30:10Speaker 03

  That would be the biggest player in the WNBA by far. That guy doesn't go dunk on people. In the WNBA, that guy would average 100 and 100 and 100.

• 1:30:22Speaker 05

  I'm just letting you.

• 1:30:23Speaker 01

  Well, let me just play this clip here.

• 1:30:24Speaker 05

  And we get 100 rebounds because they shoot so bad.

• 1:30:27Speaker 01

  She's a WNBA player. Look what she says about transgender's playing. Go for it.

• 1:30:30Speaker 16

  I think it's trans, trans rights now is our new battle. That's what I think I was saying.

• 1:30:34Speaker 01

  It's our new battle.

• 1:30:34Speaker 16

  The battles have changed, you know, like our intentions have been the same, but now the environment has changed. You see trans people's rights being, you know, stripped away from them. There's a lot of discourse, discourse around trans athletes and what they can compete in. I would welcome a trans athlete on my team or against my team.

• 1:30:49Speaker 02

  She should change her sex and go play with the boys.

• 1:30:52Speaker 05

  No, no, she.

• 1:30:53Speaker 02

  No, no, no. She should change her sex and go play with the NBA. She has to go play with the NBA.

• 1:30:59Speaker 04

  You know why this, you know why this attitude is this? She's in the mafia. She's in the LGBTQ mafia. And as you guys know, because Pat talks up, a lot of people that were in the mafia, nobody, you don't, the, the capo doesn't talk crap.

• 1:31:12Speaker 02

  The mafia was smart. The mafia was smart. All right.

• 1:31:14Speaker 04

  My point, my point is, my point, my point is.

• 1:31:17Speaker 01

  And who's the capo?

• 1:31:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. My, my.

• 1:31:19Speaker 05

  Kathy Engelbert.

• 1:31:21Speaker 04

  My point, the point I'm trying to make is in the mafia, nobody goes over anybody's head. No, everybody sticks on message. Everybody respects it because you can't or else you get whacked.

• 1:31:30Speaker 02

  They're mentally ill.

• 1:31:30Speaker 04

  This is all them. Well, they have, I, I agree. Well, I agree, but that's, that's, they're in that mafia and they gotta, they have to toe the line. So this.

• 1:31:37Speaker 02

  Male, female, done. Why are we even talking about, why is this even allowed? Why isn't it even allowed?

• 1:31:42Speaker 05

  I, I, I just want to see her take the foul, wake up next Tuesday and then ask her the question again. You know, they say my lived experience, let me give you my lived experience. I was a point guard in high school. I was a, played football, college football. I was also played semi-pro basketball. I'm a player. I got a football scholar, a football and basketball scholarship in high school and I went to a great school called Miami Country Day. And I was in 10th grade. They wasn't sure if I was JV or varsity. So they started me off on varsity. And I was like the backup point guard. I'd average like five, seven points a game and they go, let's bring you down to JV and see how you do. Bro, I'm scoring 30 a game in JV and the JV team would scrimmage against the girls varsity team.

• 1:32:28Speaker 05

  So 12th grade girls against ninth and 10th grade boys, we smoked them. It wasn't close. We're dunking, we're throwing the ball up, we're, we're backing them down. The girl, they did that. So the girls would quote unquote, toughen up for their next opponent. So you want to do this in real life, guys? Let's do it.

• 1:32:50Speaker 02

  They allow it.

• 1:32:50Speaker 05

  It, it, it's crazy that we're having this conversation. Let's just have a game.

• 1:32:54Speaker 02

  Boxing, they're allowing it in other sports. It's dangerous.

• 1:32:57Speaker 05

  And the saddest thing is some girl's going to get hurt. Some girl's not going to make a team.

• 1:33:01Speaker 02

  Some girls happen. Exactly. They can lose their life.

• 1:33:04Speaker 05

  But they want it. So let's give it to them.

• 1:33:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. Tom, thoughts?

• 1:33:07Speaker 02

  It shouldn't be allowed.

• 1:33:09Speaker 03

  No, I, I think the points have been made. Uh, my, my wrap up is, hey, let's bring the guy from France and let's put him on the Indiana Fever.

• 1:33:16Speaker 01

  See what happens.

• 1:33:16Speaker 03

  They win the championship and then everyone says, wow. And by the way, Kathy Engelbert, she would jump in on that. You know why? Cause she would know that Sophie Cunningham.

• 1:33:28Speaker 05

  You've seen the South Park thing.

• 1:33:29Speaker 03

  And Clark are about to get a chip and she won't let them get a chip.

• 1:33:32Speaker 05

  South Park, no, won't play it. You could even maybe show an image, but they had basically macho man Randy Savage like, I'm a lady. Compete in some female Olympics. I mean, and it went exactly.

• 1:33:44Speaker 04

  But that was Trey Parker making a point and he was right.

• 1:33:47Speaker 05

  But he made a valid point.

• 1:33:49Speaker 02

  Even Serena Williams said it and she's the best player ever to play tennis. Even Serena.

• 1:33:54Speaker 05

  Karen versus Butch. Who do you think won?

• 1:33:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. So, okay. Let's do this last story and then we'll wrap up. Let me get into the story I got here for you. It's five reasons more Americans are cutting off their own parents, according to psychologists. Uh oh. Parents being cut off by their kids. Let's see what the story's all about. Five reasons.

• 1:34:13Speaker 01

  Dr. Richard Blake, British psychologist based in Austin, Texas, identified five drivers of rising family, family estrangement after 2025. You got survey found 38% of US adults are estranged from at least one family member. First, political value differences. Interesting. There were people more likely to cut off someone for having a different opinion than for people who have done serious violent crimes. Blake said, second, social media influence, which normalizes estrangement through viral, no contact, uh, stories and encourages word of mouth, uh, mimi cry. Third, therapy culture, which Blake called a false belief that if you're struggling in your adult life, it must be because your parent did something you, they shouldn't.

• 1:34:55Speaker 01

  He cited a 2024 study finding estranged adults reported lower life satisfaction and more depressive symptoms. Fourth, communication breakdowns. Blake recommends hostage negotiation tactics, likes listening. First, and avoiding moralized language such as toxic narcissist, gaslighting. Fifth, outside influence, including romantic partners and conflicting partners. Parenting philosophies. Blake suggested perhaps we should be learning from our grandparents more than the therapist. Noting that families are one of the most evidence-based buffers against mental illness. Tom?

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• 1:36:13Speaker 03

  So I think there's two things, you know, yeah, we should learn from our grandparents. Yeah, we go in here, but you know, it's really, you know, uh, amazing. Is that we're trying to, this is an article, you know, we should learn from our grandpas more than the therapist and moving in. But really what the issue is, there's two sides in the economy that's going in here. It's kids moving back in because they simply can't afford it. They can't launch out of college or out of high school or coming back home from the military. I'm not going by any sort of class or education. All of them are having the issue. Says, then it's like, okay, you gotta, you gotta move out and you know, I, I can't help you. To the boomers who have inadequate retirement and are now looking for their successful kids to help them.

• 1:36:58Speaker 03

  It's, it's, it's two sides of the same problem showing up in two headlines, Pat, that look almost comical.

• 1:37:06Speaker 02

  I also, I have to add hormonal. I think the teenagers will have their hormones all jacked. I think their testosterone is way low. I think they're on their computer. I think their, their, their will to survive and go to the next level is dropped. They want to get back home and they'll pay any bills and be on their phones while they don't even care about their families because family values are dead. So you have a complication of things. There's no will to get it on your own. Nobody's going to come and help you. But instead you have the government saying, we'll help you, we'll help you, we'll help you. And everything's getting higher prices and everything. So the next generation, I feel sorry for them because there's no will to get it. To get it, to get it up, as they say, you know what I mean? To get it to the next level, to have balls, cojones to say, you know, I was 16, I was living in New York by myself.

• 1:37:50Speaker 02

  I left school. I lied to my parents. I said, I, I passed my GD when I, when I didn't, but then I went back to school and I got my GD. Uh, years later, under my own terms. So I'm just saying, but my will was always, and I also went to a lot of high schools and I was coming from Italy, coming from here, going back to Italy, ran out of money and back and forth. So now I'm like, that's a different generation. We were guys back in the eighties and nineties where we just, we want to live and, and be outside. Now these people, like I said, their hormones are jacked. There's just no will to do anything. Just give me, give me, give me. And I don't even respect my mom. My parents are divorced. Everything's all, but just, just give me a roof over my head so I can be on, on Instagram, on Tik Tok. You know what I mean? That's how it goes.

• 1:38:32Speaker 01

  Vinny.

• 1:38:32Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well, when I saw the story about people moving back in with their parents, I was like, mom, did you read this article? And she was like, what? No, I just, I don't have, I believe I have anything.

• 1:38:42Speaker 05

  I can see that happen.

• 1:38:44Speaker 03

  The way your mom, the way your mom cooks, a lot of people would.

• 1:38:46Speaker 04

  Oh, 1,000%. Well, 1,000%.

• 1:38:49Speaker 02

  But that's normal. This is Miss Hospitable. You make the bed, you help your mother.

• 1:38:53Speaker 04

  Oh, obviously.

• 1:38:54Speaker 02

  I got friends of mine in Italy who are, you know, my age, who are still living with their parents because it's normal, but you give, you got a job, you give back to the family. You pray every night. You sit down at the table. There's a different kind of thing. Right now they just want to be taken care of. You know what I mean?

• 1:39:07Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:39:08Speaker 05

  Well, I think the number one thing in life is family and friends that, that comes above everything. I love how Vinnie interacts with his mom. She's the best. I love the example that PBD sets with, from his dad down to his kids. I love that, you know? So to me, that's, I'm still best friends with the same guys I went to elementary school with and I bring them around here. And it's awesome. At the same time, there's certain friends and there's certain family that you may have to cut off. And, um, not a ton, but some people they can't always be in your life as you're on your way up. Cause you know, like I said earlier, at the end of the day, it's on you. It's on your decisions. It's on your choices. And you know, we say future looks bright. You could be a, an optimist and think everything's going to be positive and work out and try again. Or you could be a negative person and it's not fair and it's not right.

• 1:39:53Speaker 05

  Blame it on the rain even if you want to do that. Milli Vanilli, but you know, like that's one of the great things about being, being an optimist.

• 1:40:00Speaker 01

  So I, I, I was at our, our last event for PHP. I'm at, I'm at this event and we fly out and. You know backstage talking to some guys come in approaching and you know for me I'm just sizing everybody up to see where they're at who's still grateful who's still hungry who's unified who's a virus who is negative now and it's the most confusing thing on who is most negative now and who's most optimistic so last minute I got up and I decided to surprise some of the guys who were not expecting it because we hit earn out so I said I'm gonna give a cash bonus to some of you guys and you have no clue who it is just like uh what and I brought Brian up so I gave Del Toro's a hundred thousand dollars cash bonus I gave

• 1:40:44Speaker 01

  Cika's a hundred fifty thousand dollars if I'm not mistaken I gave Okafor two hundred thousand dollars I give Swazos three hundred fifty thousand dollar bonus and then I gave Hearts a one million dollar bonus

• 1:40:55Speaker 05

  Chris Hart SOS

• 1:40:57Speaker 01

  Yes I gave them one million dollar bonus in front of everybody and Brian Adams is their integrity the whole nine and and you know I said you know the thing about the five issues that you should everybody thinks about in every relationship you think about these five things each party has a set of concerns they have their own motives they have their own assumptions they have their own fears and they have their own asks you with your girl you those five who you're thinking about she's thinking about that as well me with you I have my own set of concerns with you motives assumptions you know fears and asks in every relationship this happens and I said you know what's the one thing that destroys it the relationship is you're wrong with your assumptions cuz you think that person's

• 1:41:41Speaker 01

  thinking that but they're not and because of that in many cases you lose five ten fifteen years of your life one of the couples I won't mention upstairs were having a VIP and they come up to me which I was kind of surprised that they came up to me because the another couple did not come up to me but this one couple came up to me and we start talking hey you know we're gonna really turn things around I said you've been saying it for five years I don't know you listen I don't know why you tell me this like we're gonna make you proud I said what do you think I want from you at this phase of my life I need nothing from you nothing I don't need money from you I just want respect gratitude perspective and if you don't have that then there is no relationship that's the only thing I need and I'm gonna give you respect cuz I'm grateful for you right but I said there's something

• 1:42:23Speaker 01

  I said there's so much I want to tell you but I'm not gonna tell you anything she's what do you mean you can tell us I said I will never tell you why won't you tell us there's no point in me telling you right now why in my mind some of these guys don't realize it the guys that have made a lot of money and I said this from stage I said I hope integrity listens to those who are growing the company today not those who grew the company three five ten years ago who are now bitching and whining and they're no longer grateful and they caught a virus and what is the virus that you catch the virus that you catch which is the scariest virus to catch you never know you have it and that's

• 1:43:06Speaker 01

  bitterness the moment you become bitter you know how this thing works I'm recommending everybody to go get a CAT scan you got your CAT scan I don't know if you've done a CT scan on your heart or not I'm recommending I know you guys went and did it we had this conversation what happens when you go do a CAT scan you're living a regular life and all of a sudden you're like hey your widow maker is here this artery is here what yeah you gotta do this you gotta what are you talking about well guess what if you don't go do that you're not gonna know you're bitter but you are bitter so every word out of your mouth you don't even know how bitter you are you don't know because you're you know protected by your shell that you have and you're only so then then becomes one of the guys that won he's at backstage I'm talking to him I won't mention the names I said whatever

• 1:43:50Speaker 01

  you do don't join the bitter camp cuz it's the easiest camp to join that camp's gonna go around to try to recruit everybody don't fall for it stay optimistic stay big so what does this have to do with the five reasons families not moving in my dad's been living with me I lived with him for many years even after my parents got a divorce because he is optimistic he's positive he's not bitter he has certain things that he's you know anybody that's around him he's helping developing all of that if anybody in the family your blood if you're entitled if you're bitter if you're negative I don't care if they're your blood it is not your responsibility to try to change them it's not on you because

• 1:44:35Speaker 01

  you will never succeed you are not God God can help them their friends can help them a local church can help them but they gotta make that commitment so imagine if you then bring that person into your family and they now spread that virus with what do you call it with your kids your family then all of a sudden four years later your family picked it up that bad habit it's on you it's on you because you allowed that you know behavior to be around it so at the same time like I said this is the first time since 1989 that my mom my sister myself my dad all live within a half a mile radius this has not happened since 1989

• 1:45:12Speaker 02

  I live with my mom now

• 1:45:14Speaker 01

  There's nothing like it

• 1:45:15Speaker 02

  And I love living with my family members because we as Italians we came here together the four of us my father is in heaven now but my sister and I my mom we're close and there's nothing wrong with doing it together as a family but you appreciate you have respect have dignity and you give back you know what I mean now they don't want to give back like we talked about earlier and it's a sign of respect for yourself too

• 1:45:35Speaker 01

  I will tell you something though I will tell you something about giving back to your parents I think it's a two-way highway and let me explain to you why my dad I had to force him to want to live with me he did I'll tell you right now he didn't want to live with me with the family with the wife and kids I said what's your issue what would he says I don't ever want to be a burden on your family and your marriage check this out we went to the Hamptons he didn't go with us to the Hamptons first time ever you know what his reasoning is to not want to go to the Hamptons cuz when we're in the Hamptons he doesn't want us to take him to the hospital non-stop because the day before we went to the Hamptons he had an emergency I took him to ER so I was at the hospital and it's like look I don't want to go and and now as you're aging and you look at the

• 1:46:20Speaker 01

  family when you're looking at homes different places you know it's crazy we're looking at a home in Hamptons you know that one house on the beach we looked at you know it's the first question that we're asking you know it's the crazy thing

• 1:46:29Speaker 05

  I know it

• 1:46:30Speaker 01

  We're asking how long of a drive is it here from here to ER it was a seven minute drive you know you know these like you know when you're like young and coming up and you have dreams

• 1:46:39Speaker 05

  Where's the pool in the

• 1:46:40Speaker 01

  One day I want to own an island this is the chances of me owning an island one day do you want to know why

• 1:46:45Speaker 05

  You gotta get places

• 1:46:46Speaker 01

  How the hell am I getting to a frickin hospital I want a hospital that's five ten minutes away and then in the Hamptons when we went to the hospital on one of the days and this guy who was driving me and I'm talking to him he says I said so how many he says oh you realize if you live in Gurnee Montauk and you have to go to the hospital the closest hospital is an hour and twenty minutes away

• 1:47:08Speaker 05

  You're done

• 1:47:09Speaker 01

  I said stop the ambulance drivers you know what they are they're part-time drivers

• 1:47:15Speaker 05

  Volunteer

• 1:47:16Speaker 01

  Volunteer ninety-year-olds eighty-year-olds that you call them and say hey do you mind coming in and they have to call people there isn't so imagine these

• 1:47:25Speaker 02

  You'll never make it

• 1:47:27Speaker 01

  Remember we saw the one the paramedic yelling

• 1:47:29Speaker 05

  You'll never make it

• 1:47:30Speaker 01

  And Artie was like this he's like I'm coming you're like no you're not you're going And the paramedic was yelling at him Artie over here As you age you realize the value of health doctors all of that but also sanity

• 1:47:44Speaker 02

  And help

• 1:47:45Speaker 01

  Sanity sanity but the point I was gonna make is the fact that sometimes generationally we put way too much pressure on kids to have to take care of their parents the Bible even tells you leave your kids an inheritance so don't pass the burden on to them how many marriages end up out of divorce because one of the spouse is trying to take care of somebody else financially and the other guy saying hey you're getting us bankrupt and we're running out of money and you're taking money out of kids going to college so there needs to be a fair amount of pressure it can't just be all the burden put on one person to have to support everybody and that's one of the reasons why conflicts happen within families later on it's a very complicated thing but with that being San Antonio it's great having you on

• 1:48:29Speaker 02

  Pleasure you guys

• 1:48:30Speaker 01

  You know you have incredible genetics to be handsome no matter what age you are and so that's a gift that only a few people get Adam

• 1:48:35Speaker 05

  I just want to go back to your big event what's this I mean I met Pat in 2012 you've been doing this a long time you started this in oh nine you were in the insurance business starting in I think oh one how's it feel to be kinda a new man now

• 1:48:50Speaker 01

  Priceless priceless you know why the way I view it is the following the more and more the last four years I told everybody my voice is gonna get smaller I don't want a voice in the company my voice is gonna get smaller I'll play a role on the back when integrity and people call me and you know I have a relationship with everybody anybody ever calls me I'm the fastest to get back to them I get back to my guys faster than their own leaders get back to them so that's not gonna change but it is like your daughter marrying a good man and you have to let them figure it out my daughter PHP married integrity a good man it is on them and I'm outside and whatever you guys need from me I'm not gonna get involved if you ask me questions I'm right here and I'm gonna

• 1:49:33Speaker 01

  be very fair to both of you guys any questions you want of course my priority is my daughter cuz that's my blood and PHP is my priority my job is to protect them but from the outside they married somebody very good Brian's an incredible guy he's a heavyweight

• 1:49:46Speaker 05

  Love that guy

• 1:49:47Speaker 01

  He's the number one guy in the insurance industry heavyweight the world's gonna know about this guy and what he's built you know and there's gonna be good things when you build a company that's got roughly a one and a half billion dollar EBITDA that's a real business okay it's a real business anyways

• 1:50:00Speaker 05

  Well, respect to PHP, respect to you, respect to integrity

• 1:50:04Speaker 01

  It was great we had a great experience gang have a great weekend we will do this again next Monday God bless everybody take care bye bye bye