Mamdani's Doxxing Campaign, Idaho In-N-Out Shooting & Sophie Cunningham vs WNBA | PBD Podcast #839

Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team react to Trump reversing course on Ukraine’s Patriot missile deal, Gavin Newsom revealing millions in income and taxes, and Scott Galloway accusing Zohran Mamdani of turning a property database into a “wanted poster.” Plus, Apple’s stock plunge, the Polymarket-Kalshi feud, and Spain’s migrant crisis. ------- 🎟️ SECURE YOUR 2026 VAULT TICKETS: https://bit.ly/4xU2SCW 👞 GET THE FLB1's: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6 🧢 SHOP THE BLACK & GOLD FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT HAT: https://bit.ly/4pe7gZh 🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: https://bit.ly/4mFBPpw Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: http://kalshi.com/pbd SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT @ValuetainmentComedy ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of two boys and two girls. He currently resides in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

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  We'll get into that, folks. There's somebody upset that Joe Rogan's making eighty-two million dollars a year, and she thinks he needs to help other people out, and it's like, it's not fair he's making that kind of money. Another person takes his kid to a Boca Raton store, buys a box of 2026 Tops Chrome, and all of a sudden pulls a dual-auto Otani that a guy named Shine, who's a friend and Kevin O'Leary, put a post on Twitter saying, "Hey, we will offer you six and a half million dollars." This guy ends up getting eleven million dollars for this card that some claim that's a massive, massive card. It's his hottest card. And then you got this one guy, imagine you're fifteen years old, you go to college, Columbia University, by nineteen you become a valedictorian, then right afterwards, you go work for the FTX guy,

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  Sam Bankman-Fried, then you go to OpenAI, you work there for less than a year, you get fired because you leaked information to a director or executive at Anthropic, then you write a report called Situational Awareness, a hundred and sixty-five-page essay that you write, that turns into a hedge fund that you start called Situational Awareness, that you end up getting that from two-hundred-and-twenty-five million dollars from the guys from GitHub and Stripe, I believe, to all of a sudden, a forty-five-billion-dollar fund until you get a phone call eighteen months later. In the first six months of the year this year, you know how much the portfolio did in return?

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  How much?

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  Four-hundred-and-thirty-nine percent. You know what just happened? There's something called margin call. Guess what call you don't want to get?

• 1:52Speaker 01

  The margin call?

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  And you got the margin call. It's one of the scariest, scariest calls you... I got one once. It's one of the scariest call... I was a twenty-two-year-old when I got it. It's one of the scariest calls you're ever given, because you're betting and, you know, investing on debt. So imagine using credit card to invest into the market.

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  Oh, God.

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  So if it goes up, you're making four times the amount of money.

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  Yeah.

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  But if it goes down twenty-five percent, you lose all of your money.

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  Oh, because the bank says...

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  The bank says, "Hey, the stocks are going down, and we'd like you to pay back some of the debt today." That's the margin call.

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  And wait till you see who knocked on the door to come and buy all of it at a discount and made bank. We'll talk about, there's a lot of stories behind it.

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  Boca Raton's own.

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  Yes, exactly. And then so yesterday, RFK goes on Dana Bash's CNN, and they go at it, and let me tell you, if you haven't seen that clip, the twenty-one-minute clip, RFK says, "You're a parrot. All you're doing is repeating." Says, "Show me the research. Show me the study." "I have the study." "Show me the study." "Well, how about measles?" "Well, I told you that's good. They should take it." You know why they didn't take it? Even Fauci in his diary wrote that COVID's worst people that are going to be impacted by COVID are kids that are not getting the... And he's like, "Well, you know, it was a phenomenal exchange. Good for Bobby. They demonized this guy, called him all these different words, and he's getting his redemption, which is a beautiful thing." Scott Galloway, successful businessman, on his podcast with Kara Swisher,

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  I believe that's her name if I'm not...

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  Yeah, of course.

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  He finally said, "What the hell are you doing, Mom Donnie? What did we do to you?" They doxed nine-hundred-and-sixty-five names or so of people that may be living in a, or having a five-million-dollar residence. He says, "Do you not remember what happened to the United Healthcare CEO that got shot in the back and killed by Luigi Mangione? Why are you doxing us? What did we do to you?" So we'll talk about that, and of course, we have to talk about the tragic event that happened at In-N-Out Idaho with the shooter. I think three people were killed. I want to say nine are hurt, two or three are in critical condition right now as we speak, but there was another one that came in, ready to protect, who became the hero, and I think the guy ended up killing himself.

• 3:59Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  Uh, self-inflicted when he shot himself.

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  Because he knew he was about to get worked by the cops.

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  And then there's another story that came up out of nowhere about Bill Gates getting a Q-level clearance, and when they asked the DOE, "Why did you give Bill Gates this level of clearance?" They don't have an answer for it.

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  And you don't understand, Q-level clearance is like Pentagon nuclear secrets, and this is a civilian computer nerd. All of a sudden, he gets that, and they won't say it.

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  Which is, which is kind of weird when you see that, and we'll talk about that. Then we got a couple other stories. One of them's going to be Spider-Man movie, which you have, if you haven't seen, we'll have some fun at the end. I watched the movie. I thought it was great. WNBA. Every single time you think they're going to make progress, every time, you're like, "They're going to make some progress. They're going to make some progress." Nope. These two coaches, one is Caitlin Clark's coach, that says, "I don't know science. I don't know how this works. I don't know. When I was younger, I used to play basketball with men." So, yeah, I mean, I'm accustomed to playing with men. This is Caitlin Clark's coach that says that. Then another coach named Cheryl Reeve, who plays against them, against Sophie, is wearing a shirt saying, "Protect..."

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  Oh, trans kids belong.

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  "Trans kids belong." And they had a conversation, the reports asking a question, "Well, we just need to get more educated." And I'm going to tell you something here when we get into this story. I'm going to tell you something that has to do with the Tates and has to do with WNBA, and Sophie Cunningham gets fouled so bad in the face elbow, and they gave the foul to her. Very weird situation. This was in Seattle. We'll get into that as well. Another story, which I love, that I saw this story, is parents are sitting on a trillion dollars of art collection across the board in America, boomers, and guess who doesn't want their art collection? Their kids. Not only do they not want the

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  art collection, number two, they can't sell the art collection. Guess who else doesn't want this art collection? Museums. To just hang the art on the wall for free that they want to donate and get a write-off, and the museums are saying, "We don't have any room."

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  Oh, man.

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  So a trillion dollars of art collection sitting around with nobody interested, and I will tell you, one of the reasons is because people are realizing seventy percent, it's estimated, seventy percent of art that you buy is fraud.

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  Great.

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  Seventy percent. But you know what is blowing up? Baseball cards.

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  Oh, yeah.

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  it's bad when CBS is coming after you." And for many years, CBS protected likes of Fauci and Biden and Clintons and all this other, like, "I think we're done with Newsom." Listen, just so you know, more and more people are telling me AOC is their candidate. The DSA, Bill Maher lost his shit talking about the DSA. He quoted stuff about what communists would say, and they're like, "His own audience got uncomfortable." But anyways, this is going to be a jam-packed, awesome podcast with a lot of great stories. We're excited about it. With that being said, for those of you guys that were here last week on the networking event, it was epic. People were flipping out. They lost their minds. Deals

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  Less than 30 days away.

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  It's coming, brother. Looked at the calendar. Holy moly.

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  Less than 30 days. All right. So let's get into the story. The first story I want to get into, we got so many of them to go with. Let's start off with what happened.

• 11:09Speaker 02

  I'm going to go into, I'm trying to see which one to, let's go with Mamdani and Galloway. Let's go with Mamdani and Galloway. So Scott Galloway, we had him on the podcast about two months ago. Successful man. He's got good messages when it comes on to young men, boys, making money, being successful. Pro capitalism. He's made a lot of money, worth a few hundred million dollars. He's, he's on the right side with a lot of common sense issues, but he happens to be a liberal. Which this is a common sense liberal guy who defends many of the things that conservatives also stand for. Logical, but he votes on the left because he has a love for his mother. And him and his mother had a great relationship and so loyalty to the family, which I, I understand. But watch what happened to him.

• 11:52Speaker 02

  This is a guy that was complimentary of Mamdani, being a mayor of New York City. It's not going to be that bad. He's going to be okay. Give the man a chance type of a person, right? And watch what he just said on his podcast with Kara Swisher about what Mamdani did last week. Doxxing 900 plus people in New York who may be living in a property that's worth $5 million plus dollars. And he says, why would you do such a thing? This is a guy that supports and watch what he had to say. Go for it.

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  And I've been doxed.

• 12:23Speaker 11

  You've been doxed? What? Tell me.

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  So I don't know if you've heard, but Mayor Mamdani has decided to release a list of the 950,000 residences with addresses and names that might be eligible for his Piet-er-Tear tax. I, I came out in favor of this tax. This is the definition. He's taken a legitimate source of tax revenue and he's turning it into a wanted poster. And the question I would have is, other than trying to identify and imply these people have done something wrong. And then 18 months after a healthcare CEO was executed in the street and then published the list. What, what is the upside here? Why is he doing this?

• 13:06Speaker 02

  Cause he's a communist, Scott. Yeah. So, and that's the thing. By the way, Mamdani threatened to raise city property tax by staggering nine and a half percent in February unless he was allowed to tax the rich to cover a $12 billion auto budget gap. That was later revised down to $5.4 billion. City Hall estimates that the Piet-er-Tear tax would yield a $500 million a year income for the Big Apple budget. But Democratic controller Mark Levin's office says the figure is closer to $380 million. Knock it off. You're trying to argue against it. So how many addresses? So the post counted over 960,000 residents, individuals listed at potential in line to be hit with Mamdani's Piet-er-Tear tax, even though just about 13,000 homes

• 13:50Speaker 02

  were supposed to be targeted by the new levy as he and Hochul initially sold it to the public. So imagine all of a sudden, back in the days, remember in LA, you would go and get a tour? And they would say, this is where Brad Pitt lives. This is the Hugh Hefners, what do you call it?

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  Oh yeah. Map of the stars. And he used to sit on those red buses.

• 14:09Speaker 02

  Stalking 101.

• 14:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, the red bus, like you can go around New York.

• 14:12Speaker 02

  So guess what? Mamdani is officially running the map of the stars in New York publicly. And some people are saying, what the hell are you doing? By the way, I'm going to come to you, Tom, first. Guys in the back, if you can find what Bill Maher said on his show, that even his audience is like, what the hell is going on to New York City? Tom, your thoughts on the story?

• 14:29Speaker 03

  So what is happening to people like Scott? And, and I thank Scott for his forthrightness and his honesty about what he's, he's seeing. But what he is seeing is the Trojan horse of the DSA. The DSA is an absolute Trojan horse that is inside the Democrat party. And the Democratic party used to accept all these groups. Oh, LGBT, no problem. You're a victim. You have a place in our tent. Oh, you, you have a place in our tent. Oh, you're, you're here? Oh, poor? Oh, you, you're still upset about slavery, but you don't know exactly who started it? No problem. You have a place under our tent. So they build this tent of these voting groups.

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  And what they did is they started accepting what they saw as maybe Bernie people. What was Bernie's issue? Free education? And he wanted to tax the millionaires and billionaires. I mean, just the billionaires now that I'm a millionaire. Remember that, Benny? So guess what? That's called the big tent theory. And you had James Carville come out over the weekend and saying, if these are the guys that are inside the tent, I don't want anything to do with it. Remember? That's what he said. Well, guess what? God bless Scott Galloway. He's saying, Pat, what honestly people are discovering, which is the DSA is not another group in the tent. They are infiltrators. They want to take over the tent. And as a matter of fact, if you looked at the Marxist side of the DSAs,

• 15:52Speaker 03

  they have the Marx, the Islamic Marxists, by the way, they have made statements about LGBT. And so they're going to be under the tent as Democrats with LGBT. But they'll tell you at the end of the day, they want no part of that group. So this is a Trojan horse that is now starting a war. And people like Scott Galloway is, I thought I was just supporting a tax from a, from a Democrat candidate that happened to be a little more socialist. Nope, you got more than that.

• 16:19Speaker 02

  And by the way, of the 900 and whatever thousand addresses that they leaked, the 950,000, do you know 95% of those addresses? They don't even qualify for the tax, but they put it on the list anyways.

• 16:30Speaker 03

  Why? Yeah, exactly.

• 16:31Speaker 02

  So why would you do that?

• 16:32Speaker 03

  Galloway said at the beginning, he said, that might be. So Galloway pointed out that it was imprecise, that might be worth $5 million.

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  Yeah. So by the way, I want, I want, I want you to watch this clip. Bill Maher, you're starting to hear a lot of people saying, if you guys go this direction, you're going to lose this eighties Democrat who was for, you know, Mario Cuomo or was for John F. Kennedy or was for a lot of these guys, but I'm not for the new Democrat. So watch what Bill Maher had to say. Go for it.

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  Now the coalition within the DSA called the Marxist Unity Group is in ascendance. And I must take them at their word when their words include, "Our commitment is to the long-term struggle for a fully liberated, classless society." In a word, communism. What do they have to do? Tweet out, elect more communists?

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  Oh yeah. C. Weaver did that.

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  Yes. Good. I'm glad you're shocked.

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  She said, elect more communists. Of course she works for him. So Adam, your thoughts, and now Vinnie, your thoughts on this story?

• 20:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, Pat, when you spend months, like, and this whole time, the surprise shock, and when you spend months and months telling people that landlords and wealthy people with all this money, property owners, are the reason that they're struggling, then you hand out a map of where they live, like, it can't be more obvious.

• 20:43Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 20:44Speaker 01

  It's unbelievable. And for Scott Galloway, I respect Scott, but like, this is what happens when your hate for your enemies, so much that you're blind because of the simple truths of your own party. And what boggles my mind about this entire situation is, how are you shocked, Scott? Like, you support Mamdani, an Islamist, who hangs out, takes photos with 9/11 co-conspirators, his freaking wife is liking posts with October 7th, saying the end, we're doing all this stuff, and it just drives me crazy. And Scott's Jewish. I'll never understand this. How did the, I'm gonna give him a chance. He doesn't like you, okay? He doesn't like you. And then, like, now you're upset? And I told you the story, Pat. I went to urgent care, I have a sinus infection,

• 21:29Speaker 01

  I'm just getting over it. I was prescribed amoxicillin. My doctor, she comes in, she's, you know, we're talking New York, blah, blah, accent, and, uh, she's Jewish, and she just starts going in on Mamdani. She lets me know that she had to sell, Pat, she had to sell her property, her second home, in New York. She's here now. She lost a bunch of her liberal friends, and then one of them, Adam, you ready for this? She's Jewish, her friend's Jewish, lives in Maine, and she goes, "I was voting for Graham Plathner." She goes, "Wait a minute. You're a Jew. He has a Nazi tattoo that he covered up." And she goes like this, "Yeah, but you know what? The other guy's a Trumper." Think about the mentality where all that is gone and out the window, but just because it's not Trump. And it drives me crazy, Adam. I'm still, my mind still gets

• 22:12Speaker 01

  boggled, how this party, who for 10 years has just been Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, and now the dust is settling, Pat, and they're all like this, "Uh, how did, how did the communists come in here? Because you guys have nobody in your party, you have no values, you have no freaking mission, and you have no leaders, and now all of a sudden, AOC, the bartender from the Bronx, okay? That's a freaking Marxist, they're all gonna come up and they're all gonna run your party, period."

• 22:38Speaker 03

  Look, this happened in less than 20 years, less than 20 years, Pat. What do we have today? The top three things for the Marxists. Tax the rich, seize assets, redistribute wealth. That's their three. They don't talk about the environment. Go look at the Marxist thing from DSA. They don't talk about the environment. They're not talking about green. They're not talking about those things. Let's go back 2008, Pat, to Obama's platform. I'm gonna head it in bullets, real fast. Obama's platform. We need progressive social reform for abortion and gay rights. Number two, we need healthcare reform. Number three, we need a middle-class tax relief. Number four, we need educational access. And, number five, oh yeah, the environment. That was Obama's platform. None of that is in tax the rich, seize the property, you know,

• 23:21Speaker 03

  over, you know, bring in more communists, and, by the way, there's, to elimination of the middle class. 20 years, Pat, in 20 years, so quickly come.

• 23:30Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 23:31Speaker 09

  Yeah, well, you know, you brought up, well, it's a big tent. It's a big tent. And, you know, who was also in a big tent? Clowns.

• 23:38Speaker 01

  All of them.

• 23:38Speaker 09

  And Bill Maher said it best. He said, "I'm not voting for anyone who thinks that the wrong side won the Cold War, or that's cheering for the Intifada like it's the World Cup." But I actually respect everything that Scott Galloway just said. I respect what Bill Maher's saying. I respect what James Carville's saying. I actually respect what Mamdani's saying, because, you know, they say, when someone tells you who they are, believe them. Mamdani's telling you who he is.

• 24:04Speaker 01

  He's been saying it.

• 24:05Speaker 09

  The DSA is telling you who you are. You know, they say, "Promise is made, promise is kept." He's going to seize the means of production. He's going full commie. You know, they say, "No, never go full." He's going full commie. So you have to respect the fact that that's what he, that's what he believes in.

• 24:19Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, I'm not mad. I'm not mad at him.

• 24:21Speaker 09

  That's what he says, and that's what he's doing. So why are you shocked? Here's my opinion on Trump, because at the end of the day, there's gonna be a reckoning in 2028. We're not gonna have it now. There's gonna be a reckoning in 2028.

• 24:32Speaker 01

  Gonna be a reckoning.

• 24:32Speaker 09

  Because they're not gonna be, that's true.

• 24:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:34Speaker 09

  Because they're not gonna have, you know, in Scarface, he says, "Point over there, that's the bad guy. Say goodnight to the bad guy." There's not gonna be the bad guy anymore. And here's what's happening with the Democratic Party. They said, "Yeah, we hate Trump. We're not with Trump. We're not with Trump." The communist said, "Yeah, yeah, we're also not with Trump." They're like, "Come on in, come on in." And by the way, we also hate you, regular Democrat.

• 24:56Speaker 01

  Let me see, liberal, I want your house.

• 24:57Speaker 09

  Exactly, liberal capitalist. We hate you too. But the problem is, the call's coming from inside the house. And it might be too.

• 25:05Speaker 02

  And by the way, a Wall Street Journal did a story, "The Democrats' biggest donors have gone on a strike," and I don't want to stay on this, I'm just gonna finish on this, and move on to the next story. Soros and his son Alex donated more than $400,000 to the DNC during 2018 midterms, over $1 million in 2022, but this year they have not given yet $1. LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman, another longtime DNC donor, has also written, "No checks this cycle." The joke amongst some donors right now is the DNC stands for, "Do not contribute." Months ahead of pivotal midterms, Democratic fundraising apparatus lagged behind Republicans, across the board with MAGA Inc. holding. You ready for this, Vinnie? Check this out, very important number, Tom, I don't know if you've seen this. MAGA Inc. holding.

• 25:49Speaker 02

  Right now, it's sitting on $400.6 million to DNC sitting on only $16.3 million.

• 25:57Speaker 03

  Right.

• 25:58Speaker 02

  And the Senate and the House committee similarly outpaced. Some frustration stems from how money was spent in 2024 with Kamala Harris raising over $1 billion, but still lost after rush nomination process. Divisions over Gaza, anti-Semitism, democratic socialists have also fractured the donor base. Former Harris fundraiser Rufus Gifford, democratic socialists have also, okay, publicly called for the DNC chairman Ken Martin to step down, saying he is simply not meeting in the critical moment. Defenders note the DNC raised more by June 2026 than in the same period of 2017, 2018. While some donors shun central committees, they are still opening wallets for other candidates like James Talarico, who raised

• 26:39Speaker 02

  $55 million against Paxton, Jon Ossoff, who raised $34 million, more than 10 times an opponent. And then the DNC carries $18 million in debt because of Kamala Harris, and as previously consistently outraised by Republicans, reports of internal discord, including Martin. So remember, this is important because they keep saying Republicans are having a lot of problems. Guess what? The Democrats are really having a lot of problems, because they have to decide, you're either a socialist, or you're not. Because the face of your party right now is a socialist. The face of the Democratic, who is the face of the Democratic Party right now?

• 27:12Speaker 01

  Right now, it's AOC.

• 27:13Speaker 02

  AOC.

• 27:14Speaker 01

  And Mamdani.

• 27:15Speaker 09

  Communists.

• 27:16Speaker 03

  I think it's called communists.

• 27:17Speaker 09

  I think Mamdani is the strongest face.

• 27:19Speaker 02

  Which, while I'm, while I'm on this, let me get to the next one for you. So now, remember, this was Wall Street Journal.

• 27:26Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 27:26Speaker 02

  Credible, all big, Reid Hoffman reads Wall Street Journal every day.

• 27:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:31Speaker 02

  Okay? Soros reads Wall Street Journal and his team reports it back to him. They have to know what WSJ says, right?

• 27:36Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 27:37Speaker 02

  You know who else they're reading? CBS. Here's what CBS had to say. Newsom blamed Trump for high-speed rail $4 billion out of funding. Records show California never bought the trains it promised. This is a CBS news story. Not Fox, not Daily Caller, not Daily Wire, but Fox. Not Breitbart, but CBS.

• 27:58Speaker 03

  Not Vinnie.

• 27:59Speaker 02

  Let me read it to you.

• 28:00Speaker 01

  Thanks, Tom.

• 28:00Speaker 02

  California's high-speed rail authority repeatedly missed key deadlines to buy its trains. A failure, a federal official cited, when they put $4 billion in funding a year ago, more than a year and a half later, the original deadline, the authority still cannot say when it expects to award the contract. The date remains to be determined. And Governor Newsom called the federal withdrawal "a political stunt to punish California." Again, blaming Trump. So who does he get? You know this guy's name. Attorney General Rob Bontef. If you don't know who he is, pull him up. Everybody should know who this guy is. Sued to stop what he called Trump's politically motivated attack, yet six months later, California quietly dropped the lawsuit. Do you know when? Two days before Christmas, with no press release and no explanation. Because no one's paying attention to what's going on.

• 28:45Speaker 01

  They're shopping.

• 28:46Speaker 02

  Grant.

• 28:47Speaker 03

  And there's bull games on.

• 28:48Speaker 02

  Documents signed during Biden administration required the rail authority to execute a train set contract by December 31st, 2024. California missed the deadline. In sworn court filings, the authority issued a federal judge it would execute a contract by December 1st, which is 12 months later in 2025, but missed that deadline too. Canceling the board meeting where the contract was expected to be approved, multiple sources said missing the revised deadline undercuts California's legal argument that it could be trusted to meet future deadlines. By missing the deadline, it set itself in court, the state had effectively proven the federal government point, the project was not on track. And this is when it gets nasty. This year, January, Newsom boasted that California is finally laying

• 29:31Speaker 02

  The tracks of the nation's first high-speed rail system laying. When the governor says laying, what does it mean?

• 29:39Speaker 01

  They're doing construction. They're starting.

• 29:41Speaker 03

  Or he's hanging out with the wife of his campaign manager.

• 29:43Speaker 02

  Does it mean we're starting or we're going to?

• 29:45Speaker 01

  We're laying the tracks.

• 29:46Speaker 02

  We are laying. We are finally laying the track. His words, quote, finally laying the tracks of the nation's first high-speed rail system, but the state had not actually laid any.

• 29:57Speaker 01

  So he's lying.

• 29:57Speaker 02

  High-speed rail track. What it built was a railhead, a logistics depot to receive and stage materials. Newsom is losing CBS.

• 30:09Speaker 01

  Oh, man.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  And mainstream media. That you are not keeping your promises to Californians. How the hell you gonna keep your promises to Americans and you say you want to be a president? Tom, your thoughts on the story?

• 30:18Speaker 03

  Well, first of all, the reason CBS is covering it, because they have permission to cover it. They spike other stories. We saw Dana Bash, and we'll talk about a little bit later. And, you know, absolutely beside herself, cheerleading for the Dems. And now they have permission, Pat. They have been given permission to hit and they are hitting hard. The reason you can't buy train cars with 4 billion of the federal dollars, there was no track, so there's no place to put the train cars. Wouldn't you buy them and put them in storage? Yeah, I'm finally laying tracks instead of laying the wife of my campaign manager? Here it is. Whoa, there we go.

• 30:49Speaker 01

  Shots fired. I mean, it's a fact.

• 30:52Speaker 03

  Boom, for the win. The issue, Pat, is that that is now mainstream media is now calling out Newsom for the gaps, calling him out for the fraud and calling him out for these things. And they have permission to do so because I believe.

• 31:09Speaker 02

  What do you mean when you say permission? You think, do you think?

• 31:11Speaker 03

  DNC would not let this go out.

• 31:13Speaker 02

  So you think CBS first contacts DNC and says, are you okay with us writing this?

• 31:18Speaker 03

  They talked, all the networks talked to the RNC DNC. They talked to everybody. And they've got, every presidential candidate has got someone.

• 31:28Speaker 02

  You don't think it's just the fact that Ellison's are now taking over? And the BS is gone and you better start writing fairly and honestly? Like, can we find out who actually was a writer of this article? Can you go to that article and let's see who wrote it? Who is the person that wrote it? And can we even go to previous things she's written? Type in Julie Watt CBS. Continue, Tom. I just want to know what happened here.

• 31:49Speaker 03

  So, and maybe I'm a little hyperbolic here, but my point is, you don't see mainstream media, even in the Ellison era, that says going out and hitting. You have things, and by the way, we've had, there have been conversations that, that said that we've been holding stories or that we've been going light on stories. And so.

• 32:09Speaker 02

  This is a 22-time Emmy Award-winning journalist? Damn.

• 32:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:15Speaker 02

  So guess what? When a person like this write, go up a little bit where it says 1.7 billion COVID, go down to the fifth paragraph? Go a little bit lower, lower, lower, lower, lower. Right there. What was that right there? In 2022, Julie was honored with National Press Club and Emmy Award. The COVID lab, state secret exposed the 14-month investigation was prompted by whistleblowers, including Californians. 1.7 billion auto testing lab. Okay. So no, Tom, I don't think this is the one that needed permission. I think she legitimately is somebody that is, that does her job right, that's calling out California because she's got the reputation to do so. Wow. Have you ever heard about her or no?

• 32:50Speaker 03

  I, I know the trial by, I did not know she was the author of Trial by Fire.

• 32:56Speaker 02

  Good, good for her. Good for her to have done something like this. How, Tom, how, how bad is it? When a Newsom, California loses someone like CBS like this? This is not a regular person writing this article. How bad is it for Newsom?

• 33:11Speaker 03

  Well, I think it's very bad. And we were talking about Newsom a week ago on his, on the trend of his polling, the trend of his, the likability, you know, the net positivity rating, the net approval rating, as they say. People that approve, disapprove and stuff, and how his net is low and has been trending down. All of those numbers are now on the board. The numbers are screaming and now the words are talking. And in this case, you know, I'll step back from my saying permission. But I still say that when the mainstream media is out there talking about it, the DNC tries everything they can to stop it. Now, in the case of CBS and this Emmy Award-winning reporter, okay, I'll give you that. But it is bad news for Newsom on top of last week's bad numbers for Newsom.

• 33:56Speaker 02

  Check this out. Look at this here with Kalshi. Okay. 67 million dollars put up. So this is not a, this is real money. 96% chance that Javier Becerra is going to become the governor. Steve Hilton, who we've had on, is only at 4%. And you know what Javier Becerra is? Javier Becerra is more of an AOC, Mamdani type of a camp. Then he's even worse than Newsom is what a lot of people say.

• 34:24Speaker 03

  That, that's exactly. Buckle up, buckle up, California. You get what you vote for.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  Yes, let me ask you a question though. And I'm very curious. So CBS has to know, if you're gonna run that story, Newsom is neck and neck with AOC, then you're knowingly and willingly letting the communist wing of your party move up. They have to know that. They're not stupid. And this goes back to my point about what the Democrats stand for. Look at, what was Newsom's platform? Newsom's platform is Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. And then finally, Pat, people looked and went, wait a minute. You, you just put out your fake tax thing. You lied about this. You lied about the homeless. You lied about everything. And again, they're left with, this is the, this is the, the party that they've left with that they deserve, Pat. And I, and I hope.

• 35:09Speaker 02

  Did you see the income that they put up on how much money he made?

• 35:12Speaker 01

  How much?

• 35:12Speaker 02

  I don't know if you saw that or not. ABC News, uh, tax return shows that California's Newsom was earning between 1.7 to 2 million dollars a year annually. This was just put up, uh, two days ago. Newsom and his wife made 1.7 to 2 million dollars annually from 2022 to 24, paying about half a million dollars in federal and state tax, according to no more than 407, no more than 700 pages of tax return released by his office. The filing offer a window on Newsom's finances as he prepares to leave office and consider a bid for 2028. When the family sold a Martin County house for 6 million dollars and reported 4.2 million dollars in income that year, that was in 19. And then it was the first time he really returned since 2022. Newsom earner.

• 35:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, so 1.7 to 2 million dollars they make annually between the two of them.

• 36:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, and his wife allegedly dropped 200,000 on household staff and wrote a $45,000, uh, a write-off on Armani clothing. So that's, you know, that's, that's the type of, you know, people that I want.

• 36:13Speaker 02

  Everybody does that. Everybody writes off 45,000.

• 36:15Speaker 01

  Pat, that was last week for me. So, yeah. It's, it's, it's funny though. And Tom, I'm just, and that's the last time I'm gonna say, this is what they get. This is what you get when you don't hold your own politicians foot to the fire and make them step up. Because everything has been about Trump. So, okay, good for you.

• 36:33Speaker 02

  Well, it's, what's, what's, what's gonna be interesting?

• 36:36Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 36:37Speaker 02

  Is, you have to realize, Newsom's camp and AOC's camp and Mamdani's camp, they're not on the same page.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  I don't think so.

• 36:43Speaker 02

  Don't think they're on the same page.

• 36:45Speaker 03

  Well, Newsom will go on to any page.

• 36:46Speaker 01

  That's what I was just gonna say, but Newsom will jump on any boat.

• 36:50Speaker 02

  Newsom is worse than John Kerry. You know what they used to call John Kerry?

• 36:53Speaker 03

  Flip-flopper.

• 36:54Speaker 02

  He was a flip-flopper.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  Worse than LeBron?

• 36:56Speaker 02

  Not as worse. No, that's the goat.

• 36:58Speaker 03

  No, Mamdani is not a flip-flopper.

• 37:00Speaker 02

  He's not a flip-flopper.

• 37:01Speaker 03

  Look, uh, talk is cheap, man. And I'm sick of people just saying what they're gonna do. Show me. Show me the money. Our friend Cuba Gooding, show me what you, show me your resume. When people come for a job, they have to show you the resume. You look at the resume of some of these cast of characters that are in the DSA and the Democratic Party this far, unfortunately, their resume is basically blank. You have career politicians who've never had a real job. You have a former waitress. Okay, you have a failed rapper. You have professors who have never taught business. They don't have anything on their resume. So, and, and, and the capitalist side of things.

• 37:37Speaker 02

  Coconut.

• 37:38Speaker 03

  You have freedom, free enterprise. Look at their resume. They built these businesses. I'm sorry, I'm really fixated on this concept of freedom. Because on the, on the right side of things, you have freedom. And on the left side of things, you have free and dumb. It's really what it comes down to. Cause everything's free with these people. Free housing, free healthcare, free college, free borders, open the borders, free prisons, open the prison. Of course, free Palestine. Who doesn't want to free Palestine? At, at the end of the day, I want a businessman. I want people to build something. I want somebody legitimately, when they come for the job, look at their resume and look at their accomplishments. Stop telling me what you're gonna do. Show me the money.

• 38:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, look, it's, it's a, it's a real concern going in that of for Republicans, the part that they got to figure out is affordability. They really do. You can't be cocky about it and arrogant about it. It's a real issue. There's a story that came out on Axios. I don't want to go into it, but one of the main things that talks about in this Axios story is one of the top jobs of CEOs right now is finding out the cost of insurance for their employees. It's a real thing. People are having a hard time with affordability. You got to be thinking about it while they're going through it. So, but Democrats cannot get along. There's an internal war right now going on. And I think the shit show in 2028,

• 38:57Speaker 02

  I think it's going to be more on the Democratic side, the Republican side, but I'm still telling you, I think AOC is going to be their candidate. I'm still telling you because you know what they don't need? No way. Listen, listen to me. No way. Let me, let me tell you this. Hear me out for a second. Hear me out for a second. Yes, sir. People say the following, and this, this is the thing that I'm gonna take off these glasses. Oh, shake them off.

• 39:20Speaker 02

  I wasn't gonna listen. When you took the glasses off. I'm at attention right now, sir. Oh, man.

• 39:26Speaker 09

  Do the fake Scott Pelley thing. He used to take off his glasses.

• 39:30Speaker 02

  The Chuck Schumer?

• 39:31Speaker 09

  No, no, no, no. Whenever my dad looked over the top of his glasses, bad things were about to happen.

• 39:35Speaker 02

  This is the first time I've done it in my life. But let me tell you, no, no, when you got my nose, you need extra large glasses. You need like a width. But let me tell you what's going on. So check this out. Typically, Democrats will say, there's not, there's not a socialist that's going to win because the money people are not going to show up to them. Right? So guess what? Did money people show up for Kamala? They locked up. Yeah, they burnt a billion dollars in a couple of months. What happened? Yeah.

• 39:59Speaker 09

  Biggest loss.

• 40:00Speaker 02

  So guess what? Socialists don't need the money. They don't need the money. They don't.

• 40:05Speaker 09

  They just need the idea of freestyle.

• 40:07Speaker 02

  They don't need the money. They are 10 times better in marketing than, Mamdani will do one video that'll get 150 million views. He doesn't need the $7 million to put on the ads. AOC will do videos that will get 50 million views. No, no. Hey, hey, Pat? I hear you loud and clear, sir. Okay? Completely different. We'll see. All right, let's get into the next story. Next story I want to get into is what happened in Idaho, the In-N-Out shooting. Can you guys tell me what page that's on? Trying to say, is that an addendum story? Is that a story? I think that's addendum. Is it addendum? If you can tell me what page it's on. Tragic what happened there. If you want to play the video, we all saw this video. Play the clip, the 32 second clip. We all saw this video. We're like, what is going on here?

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• 43:45Speaker 02

  I mean, this guy's just going nuts.

• 43:47Speaker 09

  So explain this. Who's this kid? This, this young guy? This is like some liberal redditor guy?

• 43:52Speaker 01

  Chad, of all names.

• 43:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, so this guy is out there shooting. By the way, he ends up killing three people at In-N-Out, nine hospitalized, one of the, I think, seven injured. Three of them are in a hospital right now, not doing well at all. This is at the Twin Falls, Idaho, Saturday afternoon on August 1st. 24-year-old gunman Chad Williams approached a crowded restaurant armed with an AR-style rifle. Eyewitnesses reported Williams opened fire near the drive-thru lane, an armed civilian in a vehicle engaged Williams with a handgun, forcing the suspect to retreat towards an adjacent area where he took his own life. Among the wounded, two victims were treated and released from St. Luke Magic Valley Emergency Department. Three remain in stable condition, and two remain in critical condition.

• 44:38Speaker 02

  In-N-Out owner Lindsey Snyder had to issue a statement because one of the employees that was killed was their employee. And this was at 2:29 PM when the 911 call was made. 2:33, armed civilian engaged shooter in the drive-thru lane. Shooter flees behind the building. 2:36, Two Falls. Police arrived. Suspect found dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. And 6 PM, authorities lift local shelter in place orders after confirming no secondary threat. So, Vinny, there's a story that came out about the fellow that came that went up against him. Do you want to tell us about it?

• 45:12Speaker 01

  So, Jordan Salinas, we have to give him a shout out because in a world where we never give the heroes any credit, no major media networks are going to talk about him. This guy's 35 years old. He's, he's a healthcare worker, full-time caregiver of his brother who's in a wheelchair. By the way, this statement doesn't get more American than this. He was riding horseback with his girlfriend the morning of the shooting. They pulled into In-N-Out for lunch, and he saw what was going on, and this guy went into full-on hero mode. Okay, and this is, again, Pat, this is what I think is the type of person we should be recognizing. He, he fought back. He started shooting at this guy, and he kept them at bay. Because, so think about it, this guy could be going around shooting more people in the parking lot. He's engaged with Jordan. Jordan keeps him down. The cops show up. They start engaging, and this guy, like a coward, shoots himself and, and takes his own life. Like, and it's always crazy with the mainstream media when, when it's the other side.

• 45:58Speaker 01

  They always want to point out when the bad things happen, but not one story, except what on X about the hero, and maybe on, on Fox. I saw on the New York Post, this guy steps up and he kills this dude. And two years, this is, by the way, this is his Facebook post, guys, from two years prior. Look at what he writes at the end. He says, "Train like your life depends on it, because God forbid, one day it might. Stay free, stay safe, and stay frosty." This is the type of dude, if you're unarmed and you're chilling at In-N-Out and some psycho starts shooting, that's who you want. You want some guy that's out in the middle of the desert by himself, just training for that type of stuff. So God bless him, and I'm happy that he was there, Pat, because a lot more people could have been killed if it wasn't for this guy putting suppressive fire down.

• 46:48Speaker 03

  This is what happens when you have a trained populace that is sensible and sane with Second Amendment. Idaho is ranked 50th for armed robbery muggings. Why do you think that is?

• 47:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:02Speaker 03

  Because there's a different lottery in Idaho.

• 47:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:06Speaker 03

  Called, you have a 61% chance of encountering an armed citizen. And would you like to maybe send up a few of the muggers from Sacramento and send them to Idaho? Hey, guys, go mug a few people in Idaho. There is a 61% chance you're going to encounter an armed citizen or the people around them to save them. 61% chance they're armed. What do you think of the lottery? Uh, I think I'm gonna go back and buy lottery fraud tickets in Sacramento. Good choice.

• 47:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:34Speaker 03

  That's what's going on. I'm not making light of the situation. I, I'm using that to make a point. Here you have Idaho is ranked also, ready for this? The second or third safest state on multiple vectors and vectors of analysis by safehome.org. And then people like to say, oh, but you know, so many people have guns. And then they have the lobby likes to say Idaho has the weakest gun laws. Well, maybe some other states need some weak gun laws. If you're gonna call them weak and similar to Idaho. Because this was a trained citizen putting himself in peril to come out and assist. And then an off-duty officer was there.

• 48:18Speaker 03

  And so I am sickened and I want to know what drove this kid to it. Once again, the mental health crisis in the country. Let's go talk about that. When did we know? What could have been done? But when it came down to stopping what was going on before it got even more tragic and more worse? The citizens stepped in.

• 48:37Speaker 01

  And I, and on top of that, now you know this, anybody that's from California or any In-N-Out. I don't care what In-N-Out you go to. The line is around, they, they, a story came out where they stopped. Uh, Tom, you read it? They had to stop putting cones In-N-Out just on, because of the traffic being so bad. They had to put cones in the street to, to, to like hoard people in. This could have been a lot worse. Cause the line is always, he could have just gone to every single car and just shot every single driver. But the Jordan Salinas stepping up saved a bunch of people's lives.

• 49:04Speaker 03

  God bless you, Jordan.

• 49:05Speaker 01

  Yup.

• 49:05Speaker 03

  Well, if there's anybody that deserves free In-N-Out for life.

• 49:09Speaker 01

  It's Jordan.

• 49:10Speaker 03

  Jordan Salinas in Idaho. Respect to you, sir, if you ever see this. You know, they always say, uh, you know, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

• 49:18Speaker 01

  Yup.

• 49:18Speaker 03

  Well, that's living proof.

• 49:19Speaker 01

  Yup.

• 49:20Speaker 03

  That this guy saved how many lives?

• 49:22Speaker 01

  A bunch.

• 49:23Speaker 03

  I mean, whoever this guy was, this, I don't even want to say his name, the perpetrator. Let's not forget, he killed three people. Just showed up an In-N-Out burger, killed three people. And there were other people wounded, so we don't know what's gonna happen. That's a great point. How much ammunition did he die with? Who knows? Because those were safe. And you know, they say, you know, you see on the trains or on buses, you see it around town. If you see something, say something. Well, this guy Jordan was basically like, hold my beer. And he has a four-step process here. Did you see this? It says, observe, orient.

• 49:51Speaker 01

  Yup.

• 49:52Speaker 03

  Decide and act. So this guy, just on a horseback with his girlfriend.

• 49:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:57Speaker 03

  At In-N-Out Burger sees something. He doesn't just say something, he does something. I can't tell you what an absolute hero this is. Last point, you know, when you go to In-N-Out, always get it animal style.

• 50:08Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 50:08Speaker 03

  This guy is an animal, a beast, a hero and a stud. And everyone should thank him.

• 50:13Speaker 02

  Here's a question for you. How many Jordans you think we have in America? Like literally, how many Jordans you think we have in America that will line up ready to defend their country?

• 50:22Speaker 01

  A lot.

• 50:23Speaker 02

  Give me a number. What do you think the number?

• 50:24Speaker 03

  Millions.

• 50:25Speaker 02

  High, low? Give me a high, low. How many Jordans do we have in America?

• 50:29Speaker 03

  Of 300 million people?

• 50:30Speaker 02

  Of 340 million people. How many do we have in America?

• 50:33Speaker 03

  I would hope we have 10. 3 million.

• 50:34Speaker 01

  I was gonna say, I would say at least 40 to 50 million that are ride or die, that are not out there bragging, are silent and like, let's, like if it pops off, Pat, they're stepping.

• 50:43Speaker 02

  5 million, we're good.

• 50:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:45Speaker 02

  That's all it's gonna take.

• 50:46Speaker 01

  And I think we have a lot more.

• 50:47Speaker 02

  And I think we got 5 million plus.

• 50:48Speaker 03

  You know what it is? You, you, you ask a very good question. I think that we have 5 million, let's say.

• 50:53Speaker 01

  I think.

• 50:54Speaker 03

  But I also think that there's another 10, 20, 50 million that at any given point, they say, you know what?

• 51:01Speaker 02

  F it.

• 51:01Speaker 03

  I'm in. I'm in, bro. Because there's a lot of people like, I just want to live my life. But at some point, when your life is basically, comes down to the wire, you will step up.

• 51:09Speaker 02

  See, this is the part when you go to Europe and you see what's going on in Spain. And you saw those guys that came in from Morocco. And you know, because you don't have Second Amendment, there's videos of a guy running up, hitting, punching, doing all this stuff. You know what the count is now, right? I think it's 70.

• 51:26Speaker 03

  That's correct. They crossed 70 deaths. If you're looking for that number.

• 51:29Speaker 02

  72 people have died in Sayuta. 72.

• 51:33Speaker 01

  72.

• 51:33Speaker 02

  Is the number now. Yeah, 72 migrants died during a mass crossing exempt, uh, attempt. And, uh, as of August 2nd, sighting drowning and stampedes at the water, breakwater fence. Moroccan authorities report additional 11 deaths on their side of the border. The influx temporarily increased enclave population by over 50%. Civil, Spanish Civil, uh, Civil Guard and military forces deployed armored vehicles. If they had Second Amendment, you wouldn't be doing that. If that's Second Amendment for them to protect it, it'd be a little bit of a different story where people could protect themselves. Although some may say, well, really, if that's the case, how would we be able to get 10 or 15 million people crossing in US across our border? And we have Second Amendment. But people are afraid to use it.

• 52:14Speaker 02

  God forbid they get arrested and, and some of these, uh, blue states, it goes against you. Now let me go to a completely different story. Let's go into a business story. A story of a guy named Leopold Ashenbrenner. Okay? Very interesting story. And let me tell you what happened with this story. This guy, born in Germany, at 15 years old, he's a phenom. He goes to Columbia University. He becomes valedictorian of the university at 19 years old.

• 52:42Speaker 01

  At 15, he goes to this college?

• 52:43Speaker 02

  15 goes to university. At 19 years old, he graduates valedictorian from an Ivy League school in 2021. Immediately starts working for SPF's philanthropy leg that he has. Then from there, he joins OpenAI, works for Sam Altman, uh, uh, Sam Altman from 2023 to 2024. On their super alignment project on AI safety and couple of other things. Then he leaks information, I believe, to an executive of Anthropic. Because of that, he gets fired. When he gets fired, about a year and a half ago, two years ago, he writes a report that goes viral. A 165-page report that he writes, he calls situational awareness.

• 53:27Speaker 02

  When he writes this report, guess who reads it? Every major AI investor, all the billionaires are like, what is this all about? Because of that, he gets interest from people. He creates his own hedge fund, Vinny, called situational awareness, based on the report that he wrote. He gets approached by the founder of GitHub. He gets approached by folks that are, I believe with brothers that started Stripe, if I'm not mistaken, the billionaire brothers. And instead of like going out there and getting money from the bigger guys, he gets money from billionaires. And next thing you know, it starts off with $225 million. And he says, rather than investing where everybody else is investing, we're gonna go to a different place. We're gonna invest in the people that are building the infrastructure.

• 54:12Speaker 02

  So it's going to complete. He bets on AI infrastructure. His biggest, single largest holding was a company called Nebius, N-B-I-S. At one point, 40% of portfolio was just this company. Can you type in Nebius, N-B-I-S? So we can kind of look it up on what they do, just kind of go to their profile. The other companies that he invested in is SanDisk, memory chip maker, Micron, CoreWave, SKH in Korea. The ones he shorted, shorted means you're going up against, like, these guys are not gonna make it. Adobe was one of them that he shorts against. And you know, why would you short against Adobe? Well, first six months of the year, this guy is Warren Buffett on steroids. He is Jim Simons on steroids from Renaissance Technologies.

• 54:55Speaker 02

  The first six months of the year, his return, if you invested with them, made 439% Vinny.

• 55:02Speaker 01

  Holy.

• 55:02Speaker 02

  In six months. Do you know how long it would take you to make 439%? So think about it this way. Investment company, Active American Mutual Fund with American Fund, since the last, however many, since 1934, I believe, has done 12%. 12% would take you 30 years to get 439%. Give or take, it's not 30 years, but it'll take you 20 years to get that kind of return. He does it in six months. Now everyone's coming.

• 55:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:25Speaker 02

  Now you got like, hey.

• 55:27Speaker 01

  Take my money.

• 55:27Speaker 02

  You got money from everybody. We're talking, the bigger guys are now showing up. It's like, hey, do you need more money from us? So his fund goes from 225 million, 2 billion to 2 billion, to 45 billion dollars.

• 55:41Speaker 01

  How long?

• 55:42Speaker 02

  But what the guy, in 18 months.

• 55:43Speaker 01

  Jeez.

• 55:43Speaker 02

  But Vinny, so at this point, he's a billionaire. He's putting up his wedding, big wedding he's putting up in Carmel. He's going through his wedding, but he does a margin call.

• 55:52Speaker 01

  Which is what?

• 55:52Speaker 02

  So here's how it works. When I was 20 years old, I got out of the army. I come out and I buy some stocks. And then it was either E-Trade, or I think it was E-Trade, they're like, hey, you know, you can do margin on this. How does margin work? You put up 2,000, we'll give you $2,000 of debt. No way. Yes. And I'm like, this stock's gonna go. So you put it in. So it's 2,000, just think about $2,000 on credit card, they had $2,000 of your own money. Okay. Which means if you make 50%, you really made how much money? 100%. Yeah. So then you pay off your debt. Yep. And you keep that money, but you didn't make, you made 100% of your money. Yeah. You know how much margin this guy does? In some cases, he's 4X margin.

• 56:34Speaker 02

  That means for every billion dollars, he's borrowed $3 billion. Which means if the, if the money goes up 25%, you didn't make 25%, you made 100%. Cause times 4. But if the money goes down 25%, you lost all of it. Oh, man. Bye-bye to all of it. Now, not all of it was margin, some of it was margin, so he blows up. He goes up, the next thing you know, you know, they're sitting there wondering what's gonna be happening, what'll take place. And then, the market tanks. At the same time, all the ones that he bet on, they dropped 35% in one month. NBIS, Sandisk, Micrones, Core Wave, all of them dropped roughly 30. You heard what I just said to you with, so imagine, you ever seen the movie Margin Call? Yeah, with Kevin Spacey. Most stressful thing you see. Oh, my God.

• 57:18Speaker 02

  Drops 35%, and while he does that, the stock he shorted, Adobe, guess what happened to Adobe? It shot up. It goes up. Oh, wow.

• 57:26Speaker 03

  So. This is the GameStop story, but on steroids.

• 57:28Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 57:29Speaker 03

  This is the definition of high risk, high reward.

• 57:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. Adobe goes up, and according to CNBC, prime brokers of Bank of America, Goldman, JP Morgan Chase started calling him. And on July 30th, it was over. CNBC reported the fund exited all of its public, almost all of its public investments. Roughly 2/3 was in public equities. And the person that got involved, and this is how he makes his money, which I'm gonna go to Vinnie, by the way, I'm gonna give a quick shout out to this guy. Vinnie. Uh, now, I'm, I'm gonna go to Tom. I wanna give a quick shout out to Alex Tameez from Live Trading Investing Club. I watch a lot of videos. His breakdown was the best one out of everybody. Shout out to you, Alex, if you're watching this. Phenomenal job on the way you broke this thing down. And then, Citadel's Ken Griffin comes in. Says, don't worry about it, guy. Oh, that little wing? I'll bail you out. Got you.

• 58:13Speaker 02

  I'll bail you out. Now, the fund goes from 0 to 45 billion, now it's down to 10 billion. And everyone's thinking, this guy's completely down, wiped out, doesn't have a penny to his name. He's still worth $300 million, Vinnie. So if you're worried about it, he's doing okay. Tom, walk me through what happens next with Ken Griffin.

• 58:31Speaker 03

  So it's very interesting. Boca Raton's own Ken Griffin, who went to a public high school in Boca Raton, opened up a math class.

• 58:37Speaker 02

  Like someone I know, you also went to.

• 58:38Speaker 03

  Uh, my, my sister was at the high school same time he was. Um, he's a little younger than me. But, um, that guy grows up, builds Citadel, you know, leaves Chicago, building the big thing in Miami, welcome back to Florida, Ken. So here's what happened. So, somebody needs to provide liquidity to the market, otherwise, there was going to be what's called a cascade. A cascade is another fancy word for effing waterfall. And an effing waterfall, where everything starts going, um, Vinnie, they call it a cascade because if you're in the boat and suddenly a waterfall breaks, the current picks up, your boat starts traveling in the current, and you get pulled over the waterfall with everybody else.

• 59:22Speaker 03

  So you need liquidity providers to come in. A liquidity provider could be a white knight. Well, so, half of the people are saying, Ken Griffin, this predator, it was a distressed purchase, he bought it at a discount. He's just buying until the rebound. Okay, okay, okay. You're, you're gonna go with that? Those are the cynics. The other side are saying this, saying, thank God, Ken came in and prevented the cascade and created a relief rally because he provided liquidity. What did he provide liquidity for? What was this, when it's a margin call, you know what they do with all those stocks represented? Number one, you have to cover your debt. They have you sell all the stocks urgently, and that money goes to pay the debt called the overhang.

• 1:00:07Speaker 03

  Make sense? But when you're selling all those stocks, what does everybody at Wall Street do? They look up at the big board and they go, wow, what the hell's going on, man? Everything's selling. Everything, it's a sell-off. Oh, my gosh, it's a sell-off. Hey, get in, don't get left out. Get, sell now before it goes down further. That's the cascade. Make sense?

• 1:00:24Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 1:00:25Speaker 03

  Ken Griffin comes in and goes, wait a minute. I'm gonna go buy it. So he bought the entire book of positions and injected liquidity to the market. And rather than all of those being sold like wild on the market, Citadel bought him. Enter the cynics who then say, boy, I guess he sure made it. Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. Luck is where opportunity makes preparation.

• 1:00:48Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:00:48Speaker 03

  Ken Griffin had liquidity on the balance sheet on behalf of the Citadel investors to take advantage of opportunities for Citadel. So number one, he served his own customers. Number two, what people don't see, and what I've read and what people are talking about this morning, is that Citadel provided liquidity and it didn't get sold, sold on the open market like a wild party. And that's where it went. So I think, at the end of the day, did Ken Griffin act self-interested? Sure he did. Did he act for his people? Sure he did. Did he get a discount? Absolutely. Is it gonna pay off for him? Yes. But we also didn't have a cascade and a waterfall happening.

• 1:01:29Speaker 02

  So, Tom, how, how risky is it to do margin call the way this guy did it? How risky? Have you ever done margin, have you ever bought stocks on margin?

• 1:01:39Speaker 03

  I've bought stocks on margin, but I've never bought stocks on margin in volatile areas. I was tempted to buy on margin way back at the time. I had friends that were buying. Do you remember Akamai? Uh, Cisco, Juniper Systems, Sun.

• 1:01:54Speaker 02

  JDS Unifaze, all those guys.

• 1:01:55Speaker 03

  GDS Unifaze, EMC.

• 1:01:57Speaker 02

  Qualcomm, QQQ, the stock.

• 1:01:58Speaker 03

  Exactly, exactly. You know what all those are, Vinnie, we're just naming them?

• 1:02:02Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:02:03Speaker 03

  Guess what? That was the infrastructure of the internet. This guy was buying the infrastructure of AI.

• 1:02:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:08Speaker 03

  And I had friends that were buying on all that. They said, hey, every day the internet goes up, it's more Lucent chips. It's, oh, Cisco routers, it's more of that. And there were two companies in there that everybody got jumping on. One was WorldCom, and one was Global Crossing. I remember this distinctly. And so I had friends doing it, and I said, listen, I'm, um, I'm basically, can't say anything to you because WorldCom was trying to buy Sprint. And I kept my, I kept my, um, my integrity. I did not talk to friends what I knew was going on, WorldCom and Sprint. WorldCom attempted to buy Sprint, and then the deal broke. And Bernie Epper, CEO of WorldCom for other things, ended up in jail.

• 1:02:51Speaker 03

  And then Global Crossing had a guy named Gary that was from Beverly Hills, if you look it up. He ended up in trouble. I knew that was coming. So I was really worried about what's called the pipes. All the fiber and all the telecom, I was worried about the pipes. And I thought, man, I don't know about this. So I did not buy internet on margin. But I had many friends did, and guess what? Similar things happened, not on the order of Leopold, similar things happened. Have I bought on margin things like?

• 1:03:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, so, it was just a question. Yeah. I'm just wondering, like, if you had done it or not, and what happened with your experience? I bought on margin, myself. Sorry. And when you don't, like, when you, when you go through it, like, when they call you, it's like, hey, man, you gotta pay that debt back. And then if you don't have it, you're like, how do you want me to pay that? You don't have a choice, because you have to guarantee, like, but some of these guys, that was, that was on $2,000, $4,000. I'm 20 years old, I just got out of the army, I'm trying to be a stockbroker. Yeah. You know about $45 billion? Jeez. And you're doing it 4X margin? And people are okay with, by the way, the number goes from 0 to $45 billion. It's down to $10 billion. But you know what it still tells you? $10 billion of money, still trust this guy. Of course, of course.

• 1:04:05Speaker 02

  With the positions that he has, and he's still worth a few hundred million dollars. He's not gonna be going away. He just went out there and took a massive risk. And the timing of it, we'll, we'll see where this guy's gonna be next, what he does next. A lot of time when you get guys like this at 23, 24 years old, you, you're gonna hear this guy's name more and more and more on things he may be doing later on, but I think he's gonna be now having a little bit more protection of people watching what he does next. All right, so let's go, let's go to the next story. Next story I wanna get to is, you know, a, a story that comes out about boomers who own a trillion dollars of art collection that nobody wants, including their kids, and including?

• 1:04:48Speaker 02

  Uh, what do you call it? Including museums. They're like, nah, we also don't want it. What do you mean you don't want it? Nah, we don't want it. You, you mean to tell me you don't want these? No, we don't. Let me read it to you. Boomers are leaving behind more art than anyone wants. This is a Bloomberg story. Okay, Bloomberg story that you got right afterwards. I'm going to go into an art that you should want to get into. And I'll give you my thoughts on it. Why? So nearly a trillion dollars of art is expected to change hands in a coming decade as boomer collections get passed on, but there will not be enough buyers or museums to absorb them all. The baby boomers spent money at an astonishing rate, creating unprecedented demand that produce an unprecedented supply. The Art Net Prize Database included 8,300 artists in 1988.

• 1:05:33Speaker 02

  By 2012, it's 90,275. So they went from having 8,300 artists now to many 90,000 artists. Now millions of heirs face the challenge of what to do with the collections that were expensive to acquire, but difficult to monetize. Watch how weird this is and why that is. The next generation don't want it. They want something different, says Philip Hoffman, chairman of the Fine Art Group, which advises 350 family office collections in 28 countries. He can only think of about five families that have thought about what happens next. The rest are in denial, believing their children would love to continue stewarding their collection. Finding buyers of this is extraordinarily difficult for most cases since dead artists

• 1:06:18Speaker 02

  need committed dealers to resuscitate interest, and those dealers are few. Many tried donating to museums, but that has become substantially harder. There is an avalanche coming, says Michael Darling of Museum Exchange. It's going to be difficult to metabolize all that art museum and nonprofits. Almost every major museum already has vastly more art than it can display. And unless offered a masterpiece, it's not often hungry for more. Many now ask for cash donations to company art gifts to cover storage, insurance, and infrastructure costs. So we, we know, there was a documentary done back in the days about art where this guy goes to, I think it's Picasso, and he says, hey, there's a young artist here locally.

• 1:07:02Speaker 02

  Picasso's on his deathbed. There's a young artist here locally. He says, would you mind if I come and show you his art? He just wants you to judge the art and tell me how, what you think about it. So he goes to Picasso, he looks at, he says, it's not that good. He says, do you mind if I take a picture with you so I can show to the young artist that I did meet you? And he gave some feedbacks. Yeah, no problem. Takes the picture. The moment Picasso dies, he goes and says, this is Picasso's last painting. Was it Salvador Mundi? I don't know which one this is. Not Salvador Mundi. Okay, it's not. He ends up selling it for millions of dollars. Wow. Then the documentary comes out saying that 70% of art ever sold is fraud. It's fake. Don't mess with it. 70% of art is sold that is fake. So now imagine these people are sitting on all this art that they bought to put on the

• 1:07:45Speaker 02

  wall that people are no longer interested in. What do you do now? While this is going on, while this is going on, it's very interesting. A Shohei Ohtani's card is out there that Kevin O'Leary and the biggest card collection guy named Shine, I've sat down with him. He came here, brought, brought me. He brought a hundred million dollar card collection with him to show me. This was a year ago, two years ago. They put up a tweet and say, if anybody pulls this card, we have a six and a half million dollar bounty on this card. A father, if you can pull up the story on who the father is, a father goes to Boca Raton Card Store. He buys the box.

• 1:08:28Speaker 02

  Okay, the card was pulled, an anonymous collector at Boca Raton Sports Card in Florida. The anonymous collector sold the card to secure portfolio by Kevin O'Leary and Shine. You know for how much? $11 million is what they bought it for.

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• 1:11:26Speaker 01

  Can I give people perspective? Those boxes are $250, $300, sometimes a little bit more just for the box.

• 1:11:32Speaker 02

  If you get them with guaranteed autograph in it, it's $500. If you get them with the guarantee, the box are $500. So they pulled this up, and the reason why this is special is because it's one of one, okay? 24 NL MVP, the jerseys that he actually wore, signed both in English and signed in the language where he comes from. Kanji. Kanji. And so they paid $11 million. But do you know why people are going into card collectibles and less than art? Because these are certified. These are graded. These are coming from the box that you know there's credibility behind it. You can find out if it's BS or not.

• 1:12:16Speaker 02

  Back in the days, a card of Hannes Wagner that sold for $451,000 by the owner of the Kings and Wayne Gretzky, Bruce McNaul, the two guys that bought it at a New York auction, that card that sold for $451 was cut by scissors. People know it. That's still a $5, $10 million card today, but it's a very different business to get into with collectibles. So Tom, when you hear the story, two things. One, boomers have a trillion dollars of art that their kids and museums don't want, and you hear about what's going on with collectible cards. We were at the house in Hamptons. We're opening up a bunch of boxes. Tom was like, this is a good rookie. This is graded. Watch the corners.

• 1:12:54Speaker 01

  Tom was new to the car, so Tom was like, what?

• 1:12:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's how he owns cars.

• 1:12:57Speaker 01

  Pat's like, what are you doing?

• 1:12:59Speaker 02

  The way Tom held cards.

• 1:13:00Speaker 01

  Tom was like, hey, what is this? A Shohei? We're like, what are you doing?

• 1:13:04Speaker 02

  Tom, go for it.

• 1:13:04Speaker 03

  I remember I licked one of them and said, does it still taste like the bubble gum?

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:08Speaker 03

  What are you doing? Well, first of all, in the artwork, it's not surprising. I had an Andy Warhol moonwalk, and I had artist proof number four, Roman numeral four in pencil by Andy Warhol. And now I have to say all these years later, as far as I know, I had artist proof number four, even though I bought it from Martin Lawrence Gallery in San Francisco.

• 1:13:31Speaker 01

  Martin Lawrence?

• 1:13:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:13:32Speaker 01

  Def Comedy Jam?

• 1:13:33Speaker 03

  No, no, no. Martin Lawrence Gallery. So I did what I could. I'm asking Pat's question, and the first part is, I did what I could, but even back then, people would say, you gotta be really careful. You gotta be really careful. So it doesn't surprise to me that museums aren't very popular, and there's so much profit. How do you get your, your Warhol certified? Some years later, the thing was $400,000 in LA because they had a Warhol Festival, and there were people there that knew what they were doing that were certifying. But that was it. So if you don't have Keith Haring, if you don't have Warhol, or you have something you know, Pat, that story is exactly right. Art is a train wreck. This is fantastic. It can be certified, it can be validated, and when you have confidence and shortage in a market, guess what you have?

• 1:14:18Speaker 03

  Value. And right now, collectors can be confident, it can be validated, and damn it, it's pretty exciting what goes on here. And, you know, I, I thought it was really exciting, and this, I understand the value of this. Shohei rarely signs his name in Kanji on purpose. He rarely does it, number one. Number two, these are uniform patches. Number three, it's one of one.

• 1:14:44Speaker 09

  And so you're looking at it like this, this is gonna gain nothing but value. It's the same philosophy that went behind Bitcoin specifically. They say there's only gonna be this many Bitcoin and we know it's gonna be measured on the blockchain. And so, Pat, I, I think it's, what an exciting time if you're collecting the right thing.

• 1:15:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly. And by the way, if you're watching this and you're in the space and you collect cards, we're thinking about buying 50, 100 boxes, cases, literally cases, and going to the lounge that we have and breaking them together, okay? And going through it. And if you're somebody that's a breaker-

• 1:15:19Speaker 09

  No smoking that night.

• 1:15:20Speaker 02

  No, no smoking that night, definitely not. If you're a breaker and you wanna be a part of it and bring your own box, maybe we'll do something together to be a part of this. It's an incredible feeling. Like nowadays, I don't see any reason to buy lottery tickets. You buy these cards, you get a rookie card, you set them aside, your kids are gonna later on sell it, do something 10, 20 years down the line, be worth something. At least there is something you're getting in return. This guy bought a box and pulls in 11 million dollar card rather than going and buying lottery. There is no point to buying, replace buying lottery tickets with buying baseball cards.

• 1:15:50Speaker 01

  I agree, because you know who's the winner?

• 1:15:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm telling you right now.

• 1:15:52Speaker 01

  You know who's the winner for every lottery? The government takes almost a third of, the government wins every single time.

• 1:15:57Speaker 09

  Well, then they give you an annuity and a new settlement.

• 1:16:00Speaker 01

  Well, the, the, the card situation is like the Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, the golden ticket. You are so excited because you have no idea. And this type of story, I think is gonna boost the top sales, boost all these card sales. And by the way, with Shohei Ohtani, Tom, you made a great point. It's only gonna go up. They just signed, who they signed, Tariq Skubal. They look like they're gonna keep winning championships and Ohtani's, uh-

• 1:16:20Speaker 09

  The Dodgers signed Skubal?

• 1:16:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, Tom. Don't even start, Pat, I don't wanna get into it.

• 1:16:24Speaker 02

  Adam, boss.

• 1:16:25Speaker 09

  I love this story because it's actually a bigger testament to what's going on in the world. When I first started doing content, I was doing money content. I remember one of the things I talked about is, there was a slogan in the 80s, Tom, remember this? It was, "He who dies with the most toys wins."

• 1:16:38Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, t-shirts, posters, it was such BS.

• 1:16:41Speaker 09

  It was a whole mantra for life. And basically what they found out was, all these toys, when you die, you know, they say, you know, when you die, you can't take it with you. So what did that lead to? Buying bigger houses, having two cars, debt, debt, debt, jet skis, this, that, the other, and then all of a sudden, you can't take it with you. And then an article came out in the Washington Post and it says, "He who dies with the most toys no longer wins." And what happens is, young people, especially, uh, you know, people with brains realizing that it's not all about the possessions, they're, they're very focused on experiences. They wanna travel, they wanna see the world, they wanna be with their friends. There you go, he who dies with the most toys still dies, that's true. And now, you're gonna tell young people, especially even wealthy young people, young people, "Hey, we're gonna give you all this art," and they're gonna go,

• 1:17:25Speaker 09

  "I don't got a house to put it in, and I don't got walls to put all this art in, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna pass on the art, and I'd rather, I'd rather have an experience here." The second thing, when it comes down to art, we've had our experience with NFTs and non-durable things.

• 1:17:38Speaker 02

  I don't touch NFTs.

• 1:17:39Speaker 09

  Anything like that.

• 1:17:40Speaker 02

  I don't, I've never touched it, I'll never touch NFTs.

• 1:17:42Speaker 09

  It's not your thing, I know, but the whole point is-

• 1:17:43Speaker 02

  Or meme coins. Like, I was approached by, "Hey, Pat, you can make a quick 10 million dollar meme coins." I said, "I'm not interested in meme coins."

• 1:17:48Speaker 09

  It's not the thing. But the whole concept is that it's non-duplicatable, and that's why I think, why you like these baseball cards. I'll never forget when you sold your Wayne Gretzky in 2020, and then we had a whole thing, and then a couple of years later, someone else sold it, it was like double the price at that point. But you know that it's graded. I remember, I'll never forget, I was in South Beach, and, and everyone's still standing in line, looking during Art Basel, everyone's, "What are we in line for?" It's like, "There's a banana on the wall with tape." It's a 10 million dollar, yeah, it's a, it's a 10 million dollar banana, and then you see a video of a guy just eating a banana.

• 1:18:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, the guy that put it up.

• 1:18:22Speaker 09

  But you don't know what you're getting with the art, but at least you know what you're getting with these cards.

• 1:18:26Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:18:26Speaker 09

  Save that money.

• 1:18:27Speaker 02

  So if you're, you're a breaker, manek me, send me a manek, maybe we'll invite you, we'll do something together. We'll break boxes. Maybe we'll put a requirement of bringing a minimum of five boxes at a certain price point that you buy and you bring, so everybody in the corner, while they're pulling something, can come out, I don't know, we can have some fun with that.

• 1:18:43Speaker 09

  This breaking thing is blowing up.

• 1:18:45Speaker 02

  It is. It's not going away. It's not going away.

• 1:18:47Speaker 09

  I have friends that do this, they love it.

• 1:18:48Speaker 02

  It is not going away. That's gonna be around for a minute.

• 1:18:50Speaker 09

  Back in the day, we used to do breakdancing, bro, that used to be our thing. Vinny's good at that.

• 1:18:54Speaker 02

  For people who sit there and they say, you know, this is BS, this is this, this is that, I'll tell you a basic story. My wife was not a believer. One day, I bought two Wayne Gretzky cards, six years ago, seven years ago, for 540,000 dollars. My wife says, "What are you doing, babe?" I said, "Babe, hang tight." 18 months later, I took those two cards, worked with Heritage Auctions, put it on the market. At 11:30 midnight, I wake my wife up, I said, "Babe, you know those two cards I bought for 540?" She says, "Yes, I just sold for 2.2 million dollars." She says, "What?" It was a record at the time. Those 2.2 million dollar cards that I sold today are worth over 10 million dollars.

• 1:19:30Speaker 09

  Wow. What?

• 1:19:31Speaker 02

  One of the cards I sold, six months later, sold for 3.5 million dollars. Just so you know, this works. But it's having the right cards. It's having the right cards.

• 1:19:42Speaker 09

  The Wayne Gretzky?

• 1:19:43Speaker 02

  The Wayne Gretzky.

• 1:19:44Speaker 09

  I remember we ran into Wayne Gretzky, Dylan took a picture with him, right?

• 1:19:46Speaker 02

  He did, yes, he did. I had Wayne Gretzky at our event 15 years ago. All right, let's go to the next story. Next story I wanna get into is what happened with RFK when he went on CNN with Dana Bash. By the way, fiery, fiery interview. RFK goes on, and if you can play the clip of the one that I sent you, if you know which one I'm talking about, if this is the one that I sent you, perfect. Because there's a few different segments in it on what they talked about. So RFK goes on, Dana Bash, CNN, and she's talking about vaccines. Why? Because we know what just happened with Fauci. This is, it was a 21-minute segment. This is one of the sections of what happened between the sit-down of the two. Go for it.

• 1:20:29Speaker 25

  It's also factually true that the COVID vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine prevented deaths. There is data upon data upon data. Let's talk about the measles, please, because this is something that is happening as, as we speak.

• 1:20:43Speaker 26

  Do you think the COVID vaccine protected children?

• 1:20:48Speaker 25

  I think that what I have talked to scientists and doctors about-

• 1:20:52Speaker 26

  You've talked to scientists, can you look, can you show me one study?

• 1:20:55Speaker 25

  Yes, I can.

• 1:20:56Speaker 26

  That shows that-

• 1:20:57Speaker 25

  I can.

• 1:20:58Speaker 26

  Children were protected by the COVID vaccine.

• 1:21:00Speaker 25

  I, I can tell you that there are-

• 1:21:01Speaker 26

  That vaccine did more good than harm to children. Can you show me one study that shows that?

• 1:21:06Speaker 25

  I can tell you that when it comes to the vaccine, there have been studies that show that because of vaccine disinformation, disinformation, there could have been 100 to 200,000 lives in the US saved. But because people didn't get the vaccine, that's why. I'm not saying that it entire-

• 1:21:25Speaker 26

  You are saying nonsense. You are saying something that you cannot show me, a single study.

• 1:21:30Speaker 25

  I am not saying nonsense. I am-

• 1:21:32Speaker 26

  You are talking with-

• 1:21:33Speaker 25

  Excuse me.

• 1:21:34Speaker 26

  Somebody told you.

• 1:21:35Speaker 25

  Excuse me.

• 1:21:36Speaker 26

  And you're talking, cite me the study, I'm talking, what study?

• 1:21:39Speaker 25

  No, what studies are you talking about? You're talking about studies that actually don't exist. I wanna talk about-

• 1:21:45Speaker 26

  Cite me.

• 1:21:46Speaker 02

  She can't cite the study.

• 1:21:47Speaker 09

  No, of course.

• 1:21:48Speaker 02

  She, and by the way, there, there's another clip where she says, he says, "You're just a parrot." You're just repeat, is this it? That's the "You're a parrot" one? That "You're just a parrot."

• 1:21:57Speaker 26

  Do you see your job as ending vaccine hesitancy, or do you see your job as telling the truth to the American?

• 1:22:04Speaker 25

  I see my job as telling the truth, and the truth is that there is, is study after study after study. It's one of the most studied things out there in science, and it is dis-

• 1:22:15Speaker 26

  You're repeating like a parrot. You're repeating like a parrot. I've actually read the science. Let's, you and I come back here and debate this.

• 1:22:23Speaker 01

  I love it. Challenger.

• 1:22:25Speaker 26

  Of course you.

• 1:22:26Speaker 25

  No, because I'm not debating all-

• 1:22:27Speaker 26

  All you know how to do is repeat things that people told you and say, "Trust the experts." That's what you did during COVID. Now we know that Anthony Fauci, who was the expert, was lying about everything, about masks, about social distancing, about natural immunity, about the transmission from the vaccine.

• 1:22:45Speaker 02

  Now she's quiet.

• 1:22:46Speaker 26

  About the source of COVID. He was lying and you were punishing people for not trusting the experts. And now you're rolling out the experts again to talk about something that you have no personal knowledge of.

• 1:22:59Speaker 25

  Okay, well, guess what? That is my job to talk to people.

• 1:23:03Speaker 26

  Your job is to tell the truth to the American public.

• 1:23:06Speaker 25

  Yes, yes, and my job is to get as much information as I can. And what we were doing, what we were doing, what we were doing in COVID, and, and still-

• 1:23:17Speaker 02

  Wait for this one, if this is it.

• 1:23:18Speaker 25

  With regards to these vaccines, is getting the best information, the best science that we can, and putting it out there. And sir, you, what you are doing is causing information to be out there that is not accurate.

• 1:23:31Speaker 26

  Who was lying to you?

• 1:23:31Speaker 25

  The National Academy of Sciences, which you just cited, in November, said, "We support the statement that vaccines do not cause autism." This is the National Academy of Sciences that you just talked about.

• 1:23:44Speaker 26

  And the, look at the National Academy of Sciences.

• 1:23:47Speaker 02

  He calls out CNN, he says, "Of course you won, because you guys' job was to recite and promote." He says to CNN, "To that, we never did that, we never did that." And then there's hits. Can you play the clip of how CNN made tens of millions of people feel like who didn't take the vaccine? I just text you the clip. When you watch this clip, you're like, you freak, they forgot. It's almost like they forgot. Kudos to Stephen A. to come out and apologize to Kyrie Irving. I hope the NBA follows up and does the same as well, as well as some of the NFL. If you have the clip I just texted you to show to them-

• 1:24:23Speaker 01

  Of taking vaccines, Pat?

• 1:24:25Speaker 02

  Oh, Vinny, the, the amount of highlights of what CNN made people feel like who didn't-

• 1:24:30Speaker 01

  From Brian Stelter to all of them?

• 1:24:31Speaker 02

  If you can just watch this one here, go for it.

• 1:24:35Speaker 02

  Every day we have to watch this. And I love that the Corona-

• 1:24:37Speaker 27

  President Trump wrote on Twitter, "Don't be afraid of COVID. Don't let it dominate your life." "Don't let it dominate your life."

• 1:24:45Speaker 03

  In terms of responding to a comment like that, it's gross.

• 1:24:48Speaker 27

  It's okay to be afraid of COVID, and it's okay that it's dominating your life. Everyone should be afraid of COVID.

• 1:24:55Speaker 28

  "You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free." Oh, God.

• 1:24:58Speaker 29

  I can't come in, Mom. It's there. It's because of this flu thing.

• 1:25:03Speaker 28

  "We won't be free of this pandemic until we listen to the acknowledged truth. Listen to the scientists."

• 1:25:11Speaker 06

  "Science is truth." You know, "Science is truth." "What is the impact to public health when people are openly questioning the science?"

• 1:25:20Speaker 09

  "Now is the time to do what you're told."

• 1:25:24Speaker 30

  "By not hearing the truth, by not listening to the scientists, they are prolonging how bad the economy will be."

• 1:25:31Speaker 31

  "When I see somebody out in the world who's not wearing a mask, I instantly think, 'You are a threat.' Or you are selfish, or you are a COVID denier, and you definitely haven't been vaccinated."

• 1:25:41Speaker 01

  "You don't wear a mask at the house." "What does that have to do with it?"

• 1:25:44Speaker 31

  "Are you vaccinated?"

• 1:25:45Speaker 01

  "I am vaccinated."

• 1:25:47Speaker 31

  "So why are you wearing the mask?"

• 1:25:48Speaker 25

  "Seek out the scientists and listen to their advice."

• 1:25:51Speaker 30

  "Listen to the scientists."

• 1:25:52Speaker 02

  "Listen to the science." And Senna couldn't keep the mask on. She kept taking a mask off. And the flight attendant came to me, screaming in my face for the third time, "Vinnie, I'm looking at this person like, this is a..." How old was she at the time? Four, five years old? I'm like, "This is a four, five-year-old kid. Leave her alone. I don't know what to do." "If she doesn't keep the mask on, we're gonna ask you and your family to get off the plane." And she's just screaming. It's like, "I don't wanna put the mask on, on a flight." These are the types of things we experience. And now, she is sitting across from RFK, calling him out. How do you react to this clip here?

• 1:26:25Speaker 01

  Well, first of all, it drives me crazy. The one that we were just showing with that little kid, crying and screaming. And here's my thing. They're not that dumb. They knew, okay? They knew. And you know one of the main things is? She's on CNN. Who do you think plays ads on CNN? Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, AstraZeneca? Like, she has to do it, Pat. She has to stick to her guns. And it drives me crazy that, just like the WNBA, which I think we're gonna get to, you're a failing network. People don't believe you. They don't trust you anymore, okay? People go on X to get their news now, instead of you, the most trusted name in news. Even MSNBC had to change their name to MS Now, like, "We're gonna forget about all the crap that you lied to us about."

• 1:27:10Speaker 01

  And Pat, and this is the thing. The same, the same with Cuomo. Remember, I said it last week. Calling the unvaccinated, me, the pure bloods, okay? The pure bloods, worse than terrorists, okay? And this is my whole thing. With this whole Fauci-COVID debacle, there's only two ways, okay, that you could think about this. All these Fauci-worshipping sheep. Either you were in on it, meaning you were in on the lies because you know he lied, okay? Period, plain and simple. Or you are a useful idiot, all of you, from CNN all the way down. And I think it's the latter, Pat. And think about it. For all the people out there, they're like, "He was science." Why would you go to a president and beg to go back to 2014? People are like, "Well, Trump appointed..." No, no. He was in Trump. That's the deep state.

• 1:27:54Speaker 01

  The people that were surrounded Trump in the first term. Why would you ask to go back to 2014? And I think we're gonna get to the Bill Gates story after this, but I'll give it to Tom and Pat. It drives me crazy because Americans, we should be more upset, like furious. If you go on the street and protest for gays or whatever the hell you're going through for ICE, where are you at when your family's been sick or your grandfather died and you couldn't be there? That's what drives me crazy. I'm the lucky one, Pat. I don't know what I would do. I wouldn't know what I would do, Vincent O'Shaughnessy, if I was duped into doing it and I got the jab. And you know me with my heart. I have, I got sick, or myocarditis, or somebody, or one of my kids, they told me to do it, and my kid couldn't go to school. And I jabbed my kid, and now they're sick. I don't know what I would do.

• 1:28:38Speaker 01

  I don't know what I would do. I would lose my mind. And then you see a video of Fauci. Fauci's out on the street. He's very out there. He's very touchable. He looked like he saw a ghost and somebody was like, "Hey, how do you feel about pleading the Fifth in line?" Fauci was talking to a cop because he still has security. They're watching him when he lives in Washington.

• 1:28:52Speaker 02

  Tom, how do you react to this?

• 1:28:54Speaker 03

  I know what... I believe, I completely understand what CNN is doing right now. What they are right now, they are covering. They are duck and covering. I'll tell you why. The Fauci testimony is about to open the door to lawsuits because CNN and other media, but let's just talk about CNN. They crossed the line from reporting to advocacy.

• 1:29:16Speaker 09

  Yes.

• 1:29:16Speaker 03

  They were, they were-

• 1:29:17Speaker 09

  Pushing it.

• 1:29:18Speaker 03

  They were pushing, and they were advocates. They weren't merely reporting. They crossed over into advocacy. And in that advocacy, there are lawsuits coming based on what Fauci has said because the veil has been torn and the truth is back there. Where if people are gonna come back, you came into advocacy, you knew what was going on. And they're trying... What is she doing? She's trying to interview RFK and to bring up some studies to show that COVID vaccinees work. That was her opening salvo. The COVID vaccinees worked. So they're gonna cling to, "These studies show it worked. We were saying they worked. We were right. We didn't mislead you." Why are they doing that now? Why would CNN be saying this story right now

• 1:30:03Speaker 03

  rather than attacking Trump? Why?

• 1:30:05Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 1:30:05Speaker 03

  And I'll tell you who's saying it. Dana Bash, the wife of Jeremy Bash, whose signature is one of the 51 intelligence officials that was on the letter, talking about the Hunter Biden laptop.

• 1:30:19Speaker 09

  Weird. Isn't that weird?

• 1:30:20Speaker 03

  So guess what? "How was your day at work?" "I signed a letter, you know, I'm not really sure about the laptop shit, but I just signed a letter anyway." "What did you do?" "Well, I'm really not sure about COVID, but I just did a segment tonight." "Well, what do you want for dinner, honey?" "So, I mean, how do the conversations go at that house? I really don't know. And I'm projecting a little bit, but how do you come home and look at each other? And really, do you... Is there a quiet moment in the Bash household where they sit back and they say, 'Wow? Where were we and what were we thinking?'" If not, the denial must be so great that it's just impossible.

• 1:30:52Speaker 02

  Tom, that's amazing what you just said right there. So her husband, Jeremy Bash, is 1 to 51?

• 1:30:57Speaker 09

  Yep.

• 1:30:58Speaker 02

  Can you pull up her husband?

• 1:30:59Speaker 09

  Well, let me just correct the record here. She was married to Jeremy Bash. Then she was married to John King, CNN anchor. John King. Now she's remarried to a Hollywood guy. She's been married... She's as CNN-liberal, institutional as it gets.

• 1:31:15Speaker 03

  When did they get to that? I thought they were married in 2020 when he signed the doc.

• 1:31:20Speaker 09

  They were married. Just correct. They were married... I think they divorced like over a decade ago, and then she married John.

• 1:31:24Speaker 02

  Oh, they were married 20... They got divorced 20 years ago. So they weren't together when that happened. So she's with completely somebody else today.

• 1:31:31Speaker 09

  She's been married, I think, three times. I've been done. I know Dana Bash.

• 1:31:33Speaker 03

  I wonder why.

• 1:31:35Speaker 09

  She was married... By the way, just... Tom is right. I'm not correcting Tom. I'm just correcting the timeline here. This is as beloved as a CNN anchor as it gets. Dana Bash-

• 1:31:47Speaker 03

  For who, though?

• 1:31:48Speaker 09

  No, for CNN.

• 1:31:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, oh, of course.

• 1:31:50Speaker 09

  For CNN. I'm not even saying...

• 1:31:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:31:52Speaker 09

  But what Tom is basically highlighting is that her whole life has been institutionalized by the Democratic Party. Her husband, Jeremy Bash, if you're like, "Oh, who is this guy?" This is the former, I think, managing director or chief of staff of the CIA and the Department of Defense under Leon Panetta, under Obama.

• 1:32:08Speaker 03

  Very trustworthy.

• 1:32:09Speaker 09

  Boom. Then you have John King, CNN anchor, who's one of the more credible guys. And then now she's married to a Hollywood guy. But that's not even my point with her. She's as institutionalized as it gets with CNN. But let me get kinda to my point.

• 1:32:24Speaker 09

  Who's she arguing with here, Dana Bash? She's arguing with RFK. I can't understate how much they appear to hate RFK. Why? This is the darling of the Democratic Party. You're a Kennedy. Your uncle was JFK. Ask not what you can do for your country, okay? His father was Bobby Kennedy, both assassinated. Both the greatest Democrats of all time. And what does he do? In the middle of the 2024 election, he crosses the picket line and teams up with Trump? And he says, "By the way, everything you guys are doing with COVID and vaccines, I'm calling BS here, guys." And we've interviewed Bobby a few times, solid guy. And he's basically saying, "Guys, I'm calling you out to your face."

• 1:33:09Speaker 09

  And she goes, "Well, you're wrong." He goes, "Yeah, show me the money 'cause your words mean nothing anymore. Your words are hollow. Anthony Fauci's diary, your words are hollow. Show me the proof." At this point, we all know that it's probably came from the lab.

• 1:33:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:33:23Speaker 09

  Shout out to Jon Stewart. So they despise him because he knows what's going on behind over there. And he's basically saying, "You're lying."

• 1:33:32Speaker 03

  And they're racing for impact.

• 1:33:34Speaker 09

  And that's why they're so upset. And you brought up a good point. She's no longer... Maybe at one point was a journalist who told the truth. Now she's an activist who's basically going with the narrative and has their talking points. And try... This is the best part. She tried to get Bobby Kennedy with a gotcha. And he goes, "Oh, yeah? You think you're gonna get me, buddy? I'm gonna get you." And the point about the children, here's what I'll say. And Pat, you guys have kids that are in COVID. One thing is undeniable, whether, whether the COVID, whether the vaccine worked or not worked, or how it helped, it didn't help kids. No kids needed to be vaccinated. What kids needed to be doing was running outside and playing with their, with their friends. And there's a lot of kids-

• 1:34:14Speaker 02

  In the sun.

• 1:34:14Speaker 09

  Multi, in the sun. There's a lot of kids that lost years of their life, years of their education, years of friendship, and are paying the price now because of dumb decisions.

• 1:34:24Speaker 02

  But, but, but-

• 1:34:24Speaker 09

  That's what I'm-

• 1:34:25Speaker 02

  It's showing, it's showing up in test scores. You're absolutely right.

• 1:34:27Speaker 01

  But, but isn't it crazy though that Adam, like what, what, what I said, what should piss people off is, it was a coordinated effort from the, with the government, with the media, what they made, Americans turn on each other, all on purpose. None of, by the way, none of this was by accident. There is no way somebody could tell me that this virus came from a lab in a country that we're basically adversaries, we're enemies with, and it just leaked. And to this day, I just saw another article today that they were going, yeah, like high, high professionals, Adam, like, like scientists and doctors, yeah, maybe it might be the lab leak. Are we still playing the game? We're never gonna hold anybody accountable. And China's laughing their asses off.

• 1:35:08Speaker 02

  I think lawsuits are coming.

• 1:35:09Speaker 01

  I hope to God. Well, David Morens was indicted a while ago.

• 1:35:12Speaker 02

  I think lawsuits are coming. I think what Tom said is right. I think lawsuits are coming. They decided to put the heavyweight against RFK to book that. They thought about who they would want RFK because CNN didn't want to be the one that didn't have RFK on right after Fauci. This was their way of saying, yeah, we did. We gave RFK 21 minutes. And they decided who they were gonna give that segment to, and they gave it to her, who is probably their heavyweight. And they said, she's gonna be able to hang against him. And you better believe they probably have a history none of us know about. And what I mean by history is like, they both know who's hooked up with who, like, you know, that kind of history.

• 1:35:48Speaker 01

  Of course, of course.

• 1:35:48Speaker 02

  Because they're in the same circle. Bobby was a friend of theirs. Bobby was like their-

• 1:35:51Speaker 01

  Was in.

• 1:35:52Speaker 02

  Hero because he, you know-

• 1:35:53Speaker 09

  And his wife, Cheryl Heinz was-

• 1:35:55Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:35:55Speaker 01

  One of them, yeah.

• 1:35:56Speaker 02

  So, so anyways, you know, when, when, when you're looking at this, when you're looking at this, you know, on what's happening here, this is purely an insurance policy. This sit down is an insurance policy, because lawsuits are coming. You're gonna see, there's 50 states, of the 50 states, how many of them are red states? Of the red states, think about how many people are gonna come after them. You saw Huthmeyer, what he's doing right now in Florida. This, this is not going away anytime soon. They're gonna have to explain themselves for many, many, why do you think Stephen Colbert is all of a sudden gone? You don't remember him dressing up like a vaccine and dancing and doing all this stuff more?

• 1:36:29Speaker 01

  Doing this all day?

• 1:36:30Speaker 02

  You don't remember Jon Stewart going out there, Jon Stunna going out there and clowning him on his own show?

• 1:36:34Speaker 01

  He was so uncomfortable too.

• 1:36:35Speaker 02

  Of course, like, everybody right now sitting there saying, if Fox got a $780 million settlement for Dominion-

• 1:36:44Speaker 09

  For Dominion.

• 1:36:45Speaker 02

  This is what Dominion was to Fox, is to CNN, ABC, NBC, and the rest. It's coming.

• 1:36:50Speaker 01

  I hope to God.

• 1:36:51Speaker 09

  Can I give a silver lining?

• 1:36:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:36:53Speaker 09

  We talk a lot about in the show about, we need some accountability. We need some accountability. What we may end up seeing is some serious accountability, I think is what you're saying, with these lawsuits. And people paying the price for lying. Fauci, how many people do you think are reasonable people? Reasonable Democrats, who maybe even bought the cover of Fauci in Vanity Fair magazine, or InStyle magazine, that are saying, you're pleading the fifth 100-plus times?

• 1:37:15Speaker 02

  I think a third.

• 1:37:15Speaker 09

  I think it's a lot of people being like, I don't like this. It's a horrible look. And I think Fauci, I said this last time, the name Fauci, what, what we thought would be a hero, is gonna basically be a zero. And any Fauci is probably gonna have to end up changing their name, because the name Fauci has basically just lost every sort of credibility that they have.

• 1:37:33Speaker 02

  We talked about that last time. So, okay. All right. So, let's go into the next story. Next story I want to get into is, it's kind of a, kind of weird. Kind of weird. You know, because when you, when you think about a misogynist, who do you think about? Who has mainstream media made us believe is the biggest misogynist out there?

• 1:37:48Speaker 09

  Andrew Tate, there he goes.

• 1:37:49Speaker 02

  Andrew Tate, you know, a, a, what else would you call him? Chauvinistic?

• 1:37:53Speaker 09

  Chauvinist.

• 1:37:54Speaker 02

  Misogynistic?

• 1:37:55Speaker 09

  There's other words they use, but-

• 1:37:56Speaker 02

  But give me the words. Give me the appropriate words that they've categorized them as, you know, Andrew Tate.

• 1:38:00Speaker 09

  They've called him a grape, a grapeist.

• 1:38:01Speaker 02

  Okay, they've called them all these other words, right?

• 1:38:04Speaker 09

  Child, predator, rumor.

• 1:38:05Speaker 02

  But if we were to say, who defends more men than Andrew Tate, I would tell you, no institution defends men and protects them more than the WNBA. No, no institution. The WNBA is more misogynistic, and is more chauvinistic than Andrew Tate. You got it. I said it. You know why? Because the WNBA, two coaches, one of them being Caitlin Clark's coach, the other one being a coach that they just went up against, they were having a game, and at this game, she decides to wear a shirt at the game playing against Sophie Cunningham, after Sophie made the comments about transgender, she wears the shirt, if you can show it on

• 1:38:50Speaker 02

  the sidelines, what the shirt says. You know, trans kids, this is it right here. That's the coach. Trans kids belong. They had a conversation together. They walked up to each other. They had the talk. And by the way, just so you know, we did not know this. I Googled to see which side Cheryl Reeve is on. She's actually lesbian. Nothing wrong with that. But they're having a conversation here to the left, that's Sophie and her talking. Then the post-game interview, she's being interviewed, the coach, and the question is asked. And here's what the coach had to say of the opposing team. If you can go to what the coach had to say of the opposing team in the post-game interview. There's a post-game interview that they're doing with the coach. This is her coach. There's a different one.

• 1:39:32Speaker 02

  It's the other coach of the team that they played up against. Well, this is, so did you guys have a conversation together? We did.

• 1:39:40Speaker 01

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• 1:39:41Speaker 02

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• 1:42:26Speaker 32

  Before the game, you had a conversation with Sophie Cunningham.

• 1:42:29Speaker 33

  I did.

• 1:42:30Speaker 32

  If you want to share what you talked about, feel free. But more of my question is, just how important is it to have those like in-person conversations with people that have different views?

• 1:42:41Speaker 33

  I think it's great. I think it's great.

• 1:42:44Speaker 33

  You know, I think both of us understand that we, you know, we have platforms and, you know, we both talked about, you know, wanting to, more than anything, educate. And there are some things that, you know, we have in common and maybe some things you differ on, just like any issues. And I think it's how you handle things. And, and so.

• 1:43:02Speaker 02

  You can pause it right there. I want you to now watch what Caitlin Clark's coach had to say when she was questioned. This is Caitlin Clark's coach. Okay, go for it.

• 1:43:10Speaker 34

  What is your stance on men or athletes who test as biological male participating in women's sports? What's your personal stance?

• 1:43:16Speaker 02

  Watch her answer.

• 1:43:17Speaker 35

  Yeah, I mean, I'm, I don't know that I would say that I'm educated enough from a scientific standpoint. I don't ever believe that exclusion is an answer. I just don't.

• 1:43:26Speaker 02

  No, no, but wait a minute. You, you gotta keep playing it. Is this, is this the only clip we have? Oh, okay.

• 1:43:31Speaker 01

  I think that's it.

• 1:43:31Speaker 02

  Because she says, I used to play with men when I was a kid. I always played with men when I was a kid. And she answers the question like, you know, I'm not a scientist. I'm not this, I'm not that. And then the game's being played yesterday. Sophie Cunningham gets hit in the face by an elbow that pretty much almost like massive foul. They called the foul on her. I don't even know if we can even play this clip or not. If you, you know, you can see it, but it, it, right there, elbow in the face. Look at, look at that right. Do it again.

• 1:43:58Speaker 01

  Whose fault is that?

• 1:43:59Speaker 02

  Elbow in the face like that. And guess who got the foul?

• 1:44:01Speaker 01

  She did.

• 1:44:02Speaker 02

  She got the foul, not the girl that went through this. So, Vinny, again, every time you think common sense is making a comeback, they do something like this. How do you react to this story?

• 1:44:14Speaker 01

  And I, and, and I know Adam's very, been very passionate about it. And every time Adam was like, you know, I was kind of like in my head, like, give him a chance, give him a chance. I mean this from the bottom of my heart. I think it's time to get rid of the WNBA, period, full stop. And I'm dead serious. Okay. I'm sick and tired of them using this. No, Adam, I'm dead serious. Like, they're, they're hemorrhaging money every single year. Every year, how much money they're losing? Forty million dollars? And they keep it afloat. And I'm sick and tired of this nonsense. This trans nonsense that keeps coming up. I keep, right when you think it's over, it keeps coming back up like a, like, like resurfacing like a damn submarine. And in regard to her shirt, trans kids belong. Belong, belong where? In the opposite sex bathroom? You know, or in a clinic getting injected with puberty blockers or their breasts getting taken off? You know where trans kids

• 1:44:59Speaker 01

  belong? In therapy. Okay. They belong in therapy to find out what happened. Okay. How did you get to this mindset? Who, who talked to you? Were you on TikTok? Okay. Were you talking, who was influencing you to try to make you feel the way that you do? Okay. That's what we need when it comes to these trans kids. And they belong. Okay. The last thing we need is encouraging, encouragement from this LGBT community who don't have any kids of their own. So they need your kids. They recruit your kids because that's how they make their community get bigger, Pat. I'm sick and tired of this freaking nonsense. And for your own coach, your own coach to sit there and go, yeah, I don't have a, you

• 1:45:39Speaker 01

  know, I'm not a biology major, so I don't know. It's very simple. Penis. The NBA. Vagina, WNBA. What, what is this game, Pat? It's, to me, it boggles my mind that society, we're still doing this with all the problems that we have in, in our society. We have to still play this. Trans kids belong. And listen, I pray for those people. I pray for those people that are confused. My heart goes out to them. I pray, I literally pray all the time. Like, let them figure it out. Talk to somebody that's gonna do it. Instead of them patting you on the back and saying, you know what? Take your breast off or chop your penis off. And the majority of those people have freaking depression and they wind up killing themselves. Or if not, they wind up shooting up places and they call

• 1:46:19Speaker 01

  us transphobic. Give me a freaking break. Shut down the WNBA. There's no, where's the money coming from? Where, name me a company that loses forty million dollars a year and people still put up with this. And mind you, Katelyn Collins is your superstar.

• 1:46:35Speaker 02

  Caitlin Clark.

• 1:46:36Speaker 01

  Caitlin Clark, Katelyn Collins, whatever. Potato, patato. That's how much, Adam.

• 1:46:39Speaker 02

  Well, it's technically, if you can't do potato, patato in the NBA, then it's a...

• 1:46:42Speaker 01

  But Adam, think about this.

• 1:46:43Speaker 03

  And she got you new TV and sponsorship deals and that money's being used to pay the players and now you don't need her.

• 1:46:46Speaker 01

  And now you don't need her. And great point, Tom. Are you ready for this, Adam? They hate her because she's white. She's the nastiest player in the league and everybody, the coaches, the refs, the players, all hate on her because she's a white star. And she had to bend the knee too. I'm done with the WNBA, bro. I'm tired of it. Is that bad? I'm furious. No, am I wrong, Pat?

• 1:47:08Speaker 02

  So where are you at with this?

• 1:47:09Speaker 09

  I'm just, Vinny, I mean this sincerely. Thank you for coming over.

• 1:47:12Speaker 01

  Finally, you got me.

• 1:47:13Speaker 09

  Thank you. Just say, Adam, you might have been...

• 1:47:15Speaker 02

  Just so you know, that's not happening. The first team in WNBA have just got a billion dollar valuation. Their revenue's up to half a billion dollars. They're not profitable yet. So it's not like they're making money right now.

• 1:47:26Speaker 01

  They're not.

• 1:47:27Speaker 02

  But Vinny, there is no way this thing's going away. Because the simple fact that we're talking about it right now means it's relevant. Sophie Cunningham is a superstar, famous superstar. I saw highlights the other day of the All-Star game. I don't know if you saw the WNBA All-Star...

• 1:47:42Speaker 01

  I haven't watched one layup.

• 1:47:43Speaker 02

  No, no, this one you have to watch.

• 1:47:44Speaker 01

  Is it bad?

• 1:47:45Speaker 02

  Because the WNBA All-Star highlights, Vinny, I, I don't even know if we can show this. I don't even know if we can.

• 1:47:51Speaker 01

  We can't.

• 1:47:52Speaker 02

  When you, you've never seen a layup like this off the backboard. They almost broke the backboard at the All-Star game. These are supposed to be the best players. The amount of airballs being shot is embarrassing. But when you have a daughter, and if one day when you have kids, here's what happens. You know who controls your kids' passion?

• 1:48:13Speaker 09

  You do.

• 1:48:15Speaker 02

  No, you don't. They do.

• 1:48:16Speaker 09

  Oh, they control the passion.

• 1:48:17Speaker 02

  They, they, they...

• 1:48:18Speaker 09

  They control taking them to the game or not.

• 1:48:20Speaker 02

  Are you kidding? I've taken Tico to every single sporting event in the world.

• 1:48:26Speaker 01

  That's Otani's mom.

• 1:48:27Speaker 02

  He went to Otani's game, sitting next to Otani's mom. Otani hits three home runs, three stolen bases, becomes the first 50 to 50. He comes home, it's 11:30. And I'm asking him, how was today? Says, apparently this Otani kid did something special today. And his mom was sitting next to me. She was so excited. I said, how cool was the game? Whatever, Dad.

• 1:48:47Speaker 01

  He doesn't care.

• 1:48:48Speaker 02

  So guess what?

• 1:48:49Speaker 09

  He likes UFC though.

• 1:48:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, he loves UFC. So if you, if you, if your kid, your daughter, all of a sudden comes to you, Adam, and she says, you play basketball. The funniest shit's gonna be if this guy's a daughter and she plays basketball and her hero is Caitlin Clark and she wants to get into the WNBA. What are you gonna tell her? You say, there's no chance. Life doesn't work that way. Life doesn't work that when they play sports and they get into it. So the part is, there is a need for it. Because I would like to simply root for somebody. I would like to see somebody light it up like Caitlin. What they're making you do is hate the damn sport. And both of those coaches, both Caitlin Clark's coach...

• 1:49:29Speaker 09

  And the Minnesota Lynx.

• 1:49:30Speaker 02

  And Cheryl Reeve's coach, they're both lesbians, part of the LGBTQ community. Their decision, it is what it is. But for you to sit there and say, trans kids belong, so you're saying men should compete against women. You protect men more than some of the biggest misogynists you hate. Nobody protects men more than the WNBA right now. It's so interesting what you guys are doing. It's comical to me. It's funny to me. Adam.

• 1:49:56Speaker 09

  I'm with you. At this point, it's just become a joke. Just for the record, what does the WNBA stand for?

• 1:50:03Speaker 01

  Women's National Basketball Association.

• 1:50:06Speaker 09

  WNBA, gotcha. I, you know, when LeBron was making his decision, ended up going to the 76ers, I wish that LeBron James would have just showed up and said, this next season, I'm playing for the Indiana Fever. And, oh, we would have...

• 1:50:18Speaker 02

  What do you think he would have? What do you think he would have?

• 1:50:20Speaker 09

  He scored a hundred, he scored a hundred points a game. We all know that.

• 1:50:23Speaker 01

  In a game, in a hat, bro.

• 1:50:25Speaker 09

  Whatever he wanted to do, he could do.

• 1:50:27Speaker 01

  Put on a skirt and just go out there and dunk on these...

• 1:50:30Speaker 09

  But what's my point? We need, if you're allowing...

• 1:50:33Speaker 02

  Your whole thing in one season.

• 1:50:34Speaker 09

  Exactly. If you're allowing men to pretend to be women and play in sport, I have an idea. Let it happen. Let it happen. Get a retired, get Ron Artest out there. Get Dwight Howard out there. Get somebody who's been on the PBD podcast. Get Shaq out there. Fifty years old, 300 pounds, still dunking on these girls out there. Let's see it happen. Okay? Shawnee O'Neal shows up there. This is what's gonna happen. Because, you know, they say, everyone has a hill they're willing to die on. We've talked about this. We all have our hills. The WNBA has basically said, this is the hill we're willing to die on. Because the L, the G, the B has been grouped in with that T and they need to, to basically protect

• 1:51:17Speaker 09

  that T. And in, and in the NBA, because I'm the local NBA guru over here, we know. You know, they say, you know, you live by the, you say you live by the three and you die by the three. Right? So the, the women of the NBA are gonna die on this hill if it's the last thing they do. And they're not, they're not double dribbling. They're doubling down on this nonsense. And at this point, I'm not angry. I'm not upset. I'm sitting there eating my popcorn, just being like, you have this generational talent, Caitlin Clark, and you're running her out of the league. And you have this beautiful person, Sophie Cunningham, who's basically saying, listen, I'm just a normal person. I'm not political. I just don't want dudes in the locker room with me. And they elbow her in the face and they go, that's a foul on you. Shut your mouth.

• 1:51:59Speaker 03

  Oh, God. So I, I don't believe they're doubling down, Adam. But here's why. You're right, but I disagree on this angle. There's never been DEI that's been a special program brought into the WNBA. Never has. It was the culture from day one. Their culture was this. This was the...

• 1:52:20Speaker 09

  I don't mean this disrespectful. They're all lesbians. A lot of them are lesbians.

• 1:52:24Speaker 03

  The point is, DEI was brought into certain companies and they faked it and they put up programs. We have a DEI program. They had DEI DNA. This was it since the beginning. And what you are seeing is a culture clash with Caitlin Clark and Sophie Cunningham and organ rejection. The organism, the WNBA is rejecting what's coming in from the outside, from the very people that got them the bigger TV deal, that got them the bigger sponsorship deals. But now those deals are inked and they don't need them and they are attempting to reject it.

• 1:52:58Speaker 02

  Can I show you guys something, Tom?

• 1:52:59Speaker 03

  Can I make one other point?

• 1:53:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, go for it.

• 1:53:01Speaker 03

  The Olympics, we can talk about Brittany Griner for a second because there's been...

• 1:53:04Speaker 01

  She just got divorced, guys, by the way. Sorry, I know. Brittany Griner, that's tough news.

• 1:53:08Speaker 02

  From the lady that protected her, tried to get her out of Russia.

• 1:53:10Speaker 03

  Right. Exactly right.

• 1:53:11Speaker 02

  These ladies ain't loyal.

• 1:53:13Speaker 03

  The Olympics, the Olympics goes to great lengths to do hormone testing and physical examinations to keep men out of women's sports. And we can see the examples of they do that. The WNBA, you know, has a couple men that are in the league and they're covered. And I would like, just what your ties are joking about, if I owned a team in WNBA, I'd bring back 79-year-old Bill Laimbeer. He would show up in a sports...

• 1:53:39Speaker 02

  I love Bill Laimbeer.

• 1:53:40Speaker 03

  He would show up in a sports bra and lipstick and say, today I identify. Because the WNBA would only...

• 1:53:48Speaker 02

  That may be possible.

• 1:53:49Speaker 03

  If you identify.

• 1:53:50Speaker 02

  Because that may be possible. You know why? This is the Golden State coach. Watch what she said. So, Tom, that day may be coming. So can you get to the point where she agrees to it?

• 1:54:00Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:54:01Speaker 02

  Questions asked. I want you to watch us. Go ahead.

• 1:54:02Speaker 09

  My God.

• 1:54:03Speaker 36

  I think, thank you for that question. I think just in terms of...

• 1:54:13Speaker 36

  How I'm seeing it is if I could answer, for me, sports is about belonging.

• 1:54:20Speaker 03

  Oh my god, sports is about belonging.

• 1:54:23Speaker 36

  It's about allowing everyone to be their authentic self. You know, I'm big on that just because I have been criticized for my height, for my ethnicity. I've been in those, you shouldn't belong here, many times. And for me, I don't want that space, especially Golden State, to ever feel like that. So I'm all about women, little girls deserving to play, and that includes trans women. So I'm all about inclusivity.

• 1:54:53Speaker 01

  Adam, what is, listen to me, Adam Silver, okay? What are you?

• 1:54:58Speaker 02

  They can't, they're too far in.

• 1:55:00Speaker 01

  Adam, I don't care, guys, when I tell you, I understand, the money, the billion, they're still losing money. They're doomed. Your star is the number, the only reason people are watching is because of her? And guess what? Everybody's treating her like trash, everybody. They foul her, they don't call fouls. Everybody talks crap about her, they hate her, and then Sophie Cunningham's sticking up for her and they're going after her too. What are we talking about? They're going to fail.

• 1:55:24Speaker 02

  Can I give you guys a stat?

• 1:55:25Speaker 03

  We're gonna need to see.

• 1:55:26Speaker 02

  So check this out. There is 15 WNBA coaches, okay? Of the 15 WNBA coaches.

• 1:55:35Speaker 01

  12?

• 1:55:36Speaker 02

  Five of them are lesbians publicly, that you know about it. Five of them are lesbians. And even one of them, male coach, Kurt Miller, if you can pull it up, type in Kurt Miller WNBA. Kurt Miller is with a C. Kurt Miller WNBA, who's a coach, he's gay, openly gay. So six out of 15 coaches are part of the LGBTQ community that they're public about it. Now, the other nine, we don't know whether they keep it like that, Nakasi, the coach right there. That person is not listed as being a lesbian or not. So, you know, they have to protect, this is their religion to protect. But I think the one organization that is responsible for this continuing on is the WNBA.

• 1:56:19Speaker 02

  And the NBA, who owns the WNBA, needs to come out and put an end to this and just make a blanket law. Men cannot compete in WNBA, so moving forward, coaches just have to say what? Look, it's not my rule, it's the WNBA rules, men cannot compete. Can we move on with this topic? Because it's becoming a distraction. This is a leadership problem in the organization. NBA needs to come and put the end to this. Why? Because if you don't, a guy like Clay Travis from The Outkick is gonna say, let a man compete in the WNBA. Let me get a contract.

• 1:56:53Speaker 01

  I identify, I identify.

• 1:56:55Speaker 03

  I'm shocked it hasn't happened yet.

• 1:56:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, some might do it.

• 1:56:58Speaker 02

  To me, the problem is, this starts with leadership at the top and they haven't done it, I put that on them. Let me get to the next story. Next story I want to get into is what's going on with Ukraine and Russia. Tom, I'm gonna come to you with this one, and I don't want to be on this thing for too long.

• 1:57:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't need to talk about it.

• 1:57:15Speaker 02

  Let me tell you, this is the weirdest thing that's going on with Ukraine and Russia. I'm gonna show you guys a couple clips as we get into it. Do you know, according to Reuters, Ukraine reported that they hit 196 to 201 Russian vessels with their drones just in three weeks in July?

• 1:57:35Speaker 01

  It's a lot.

• 1:57:35Speaker 02

  So these are oil tankers, these are big ships, that they control the remote, and here's what it looks like. I just want you to watch it. You're in Ukraine, Russia's the big scary monster that's got nuclear weapons and they can kill anybody. Well, they have a hard time killing Ukraine. So watch this right here, go for it. Look at this here, just press play, okay? These are moments before a drone hits a Russian ship. Watch. Boom, that's one. Here's another one for you, and look at the dates right there. This is July 18th, another one. Guy controls it all the way from Ukraine, and by the way, they got a general that is general, you know what division he runs? He runs the drone division. A Ukrainian general that all he runs is the drone division.

• 1:58:17Speaker 02

  And all they do is they fly. There's another clip that shows where drones are parked on a road waiting to get orders of where to go hit, and a Russian drone is recording that Ukrainian drones are sitting on a bridge or sitting on a road, you can keep playing these clips by the way.

• 1:58:35Speaker 01

  Just waiting, just waiting.

• 1:58:36Speaker 02

  Just waiting for someone to go out there and give them destination of where to go to, and they're just waiting for target.

• 1:58:43Speaker 01

  Notice I was hitting the engine.

• 1:58:44Speaker 02

  And by the way, can you go type in Ukraine drone target? Just go on YouTube if you can, type in Ukraine drone, Ukraine drone footage, and then do me a favor and just go for the month of, go to view, solve for popularity. No, go back to where you were at, that was good. Go to popularity, all the way to the right, and then go to filter again. And do me, no, go to filter again and go to the last month. It's the third category, press month. Now watch this, Vinny, okay? You'll see these guys go a little bit lower so you get to the shorts. You'll see these guys that are hitting so many different locations recently. It's not on the short side, it's okay, we'll show it afterwards. I should have sent you the clip.

• 1:59:26Speaker 02

  So you'll see these guys doing this. Now here's a part. Back in the day, Russia decides to build a bridge between Russia and Crimea. They build this bridge, massive bridge that they build, to get through. Do you know who blows up the bridge? Who do you think blows up the bridge? So they cannot drive tankers through? No, no, Ukraine blows up the bridge. So people can't go through and they eventually ended up fixing it. If you see the bridge that they blew up, you type in the Crimea bridge blew up. They blew up the bridge, these guys are going back and forth. Putin is now announcing that they're gonna be attacking in a major way. What that looks like, who knows? Zelensky now has done the impossible. Let me tell you what Zelensky's done. Is that the bridge? Yes, that's the bridge, right? You just had it, go back, click on that top one?

• 2:00:11Speaker 02

  That was the bridge that Russia built. Vinny, look at this. This is the bridge that they built, now look what happened to it. So now you cannot go through. This is when he was bragging about the bridge that they had built and how magical it was and how this was their strategy of how they're gonna go get Crimea. Nope, now you can't do that. Because they blew up. So to tell you the impossible thing that Zelensky done. Zelensky went from being loved by Democrats, hated by Republicans. The Democrats would wear the Ukraine pin versus the other.

• 2:00:44Speaker 03

  Nancy Pelosi draped the Ukraine flag in our Congress.

• 2:00:47Speaker 02

  To now, the likes of Laura Loomer are saying, I was wrong about Zelensky. Because now Zelensky, they're realizing Putin was giving intel to Iran of where military bases were at. So Zelensky, by being this patient, all of a sudden is slowly becoming an ally because they're realizing Russia was helping Iran. So it is a very, very weird thing that's going on right now. The last 30, 60, 90 days with Ukraine. Tom, your thoughts right here, because I know there's some negotiations that's going on as well. And Trump was talking about the license in a reversal. Trump says he hasn't agreed to grant Ukraine licenses to produce Patriot missiles. There was all these talks that's going back and forth. Where are you at now with Ukraine and Russia, Tom?

• 2:01:31Speaker 03

  So obviously, Zelensky's looking for some walking around money and he needs to get the Bentley detailed. So what does he do? He starts playing nice. And I'm being a little ridiculous with that. But what's really happening here is Zelensky didn't want to lose the war. Zelensky, you know, didn't want to give up land and do a peace treaty. And now Russia has got economic and supply line issues going on with Iran. And Zelensky's asking now, can you give me a license to produce Patriot missiles? And so why do you need a license to produce Patriot missiles? Because I want to shoot shit down coming out of Russia, you know? And that's what's going on. And apparently, there's this negotiation going on behind the scenes.

• 2:02:16Speaker 03

  And, you know, ABC News was like, in a reversal. No, no, no, it's not a reversal, it's Trump's classic negotiation. We're talking about it, but I don't think that's done yet. I don't think we're done yet. I think there's things need to happen. I'm not imitating Trump, I'm just saying, you know, how he never, until it's over, it's over, and he will point out. And that's what's going on. But Zelensky wants this license, and because if he gets Patriot missiles in there, now he can preempt Russia. I think what's also going on is, we don't want, the Patriot missile system is a very effective system. There are two things that in defense that are leading the world. One is the Iron Dome, the integrated system built by Israel.

• 2:02:59Speaker 03

  And the other is the Patriot missile system. Those two things have been very effective against incoming attacks. And guess what? Zelensky wants it, and Zelensky, they've caught up. And the drones are not expensive to build. Look up and find out how much a F-35 fighter costs and how much a, yeah, let's do that. How much is an F-35 fighter?

• 2:03:25Speaker 03

  And then, how much does a, you know, Ukrainian drone cost?

• 2:03:29Speaker 02

  Ukrainian drone costs a thousand dollars, Tom.

• 2:03:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, the thousand, the ones that are hitting the ships are a thousand bucks?

• 2:03:35Speaker 02

  Those, those may be a little bit higher, but, but they made a half a million drones at a thousand dollars.

• 2:03:40Speaker 03

  Okay, eighty-two million dollars for an F-35A.

• 2:03:44Speaker 02

  No, Tom, look at that. Their cost to make the drones are four to five hundred dollars, and the better ones are a thousand dollars.

• 2:03:48Speaker 03

  That's exactly. So now, you know the-

• 2:03:50Speaker 02

  Are you understanding, are you seeing this, Vinnie? They're building a thousand-dollar drone that's hitting eighty-million-dollar equipment. And you know how much, thank you so much, you know how long, how much it's gonna take to fix that?

• 2:04:01Speaker 03

  Oh, forget it.

• 2:04:01Speaker 02

  And how long it sits. So imagine, you just shot it down, not even shot it down, you stopped it. Mechanics gotta come and fix it, and mechanic's not gonna get the parts for a minute, so imagine that lack time. But, but look at-

• 2:04:13Speaker 03

  It's crazy.

• 2:04:14Speaker 02

  What's going on with war today?

• 2:04:15Speaker 03

  And supposedly, the Russians are at sixty percent of our cost per plane on their high-end MiGs. So that, what I was getting to, if that's eighty, six times eighty is, uh, forty-eight. So they're probably at fifty million a plane, and the Ukrainians are bothering them to death with thousand-dollar drones. So warfare has changed, and now look at their interfering with the shipping. It used to be, you would go over there and say, okay, that does it. To prevent the Americans, we're gonna hit Pearl Harbor, they can't repair their ships, they can't refuel their ships, and we're gonna get their aircraft carriers. Well, they didn't get the aircraft carriers because they were out of Pearl Harbor, but that was the Japanese mentality about Pearl Harbor.

• 2:04:58Speaker 03

  Nowadays, wars change. Now you got the, and by the way, we're seeing it. We got missiles coming out of holes in mountains in Iran. What do you do about it? So, it, it's very interesting that Zelensky suddenly is seen as, wow, maybe you aren't so bad after all, dude.

• 2:05:13Speaker 02

  Adam.

• 2:05:15Speaker 09

  Okay, I'm gonna go where, somewhere with this, so just go with me.

• 2:05:17Speaker 03

  Oh, here we go.

• 2:05:18Speaker 09

  At the end of the day, there's good guys and bad guys, but imagine you're the bad guys, and you're on your conference call, and you have your weekly call, and it's Xi in China, and Putin in Russia, and you have Ayatollah in Iran, and Venezuela, Maduro, and Syria, Al Asad, and you have all these people on the call, and it's, and they go around the table, just like we're doing here, and Putin goes, okay, that's what I have to say, Xi would have to say, and they go, Ayatollah?

• 2:05:43Speaker 03

  Xi, you're on mute, you're on mute, Xi.

• 2:05:44Speaker 09

  Tom, uh, and they go, Ayatollah, uh, oh, he's gone. Uh, how about Nasrallah in Lebanon? Oh, he's gone. Um, Yahya Sinwar, let's, how do you, oh, he's in, he was in the tunnel, he's gone. Let's get Maduro on the phone, Maduro's in jail somewhere, bring up Al Assad, let's see what he has to say, he's gone. They've eliminated all the bad guys, and now you got Putin sitting there wondering what's going on in his world. Here's the flip side, all the good guys, they're still there. Trump's in, Trump's in charge, Bibi's still in charge in Israel, uh, Zelensky's still in charge in Ukraine, Modi's still in charge in India, I can't begin to overstate, we are kicking the bad guys' ass so bad, and they're still saying-

• 2:06:27Speaker 02

  You think people that are- You think people that are in charge are the good guys?

• 2:06:31Speaker 09

  I think the people in America that are in charge of the-

• 2:06:33Speaker 02

  Oh, in America, that's a different story, yeah. Worldwide, I mean, listen, that's good that some of the bad guys are gone, but there's still a lot of bad guys in charge that are-

• 2:06:42Speaker 09

  Sometimes some good guys gotta do some bad things, because the only thing that the bad guys understand is force and strength.

• 2:06:47Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't disagree there.

• 2:06:48Speaker 03

  Do I think that, do I think that Zelensky is a good dude? No. But do I think Putin is a bad dude?

• 2:06:54Speaker 02

  I will tell you, I will tell you what Zelensky is. You know what Zelensky is? Long time ago, when I was competing in the insurance, but it's funny, I'm going to my last insurance conference, I'm hosting with PHB, this is the last one I'm gonna be at, and I'm looking forward to seeing everybody this week. But, uh, when I first got into it, and I became an insurance agent, the first thing I thought about was, all I had to do was outwork everybody. I learned very quickly, that's not enough. Then, then I learned, I have to out-improve everybody, read, study, everything, history, products, everything, that's not enough. Then I said, you know what, these guys got better strategies than me, so I gotta out-strategize them. So, let me get that guy, this guy's doing this, and I realized that's not enough. Sometimes, you know all it's about? It's outlasting.

• 2:07:34Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:07:34Speaker 02

  And, and the part with Zelensky is he simply outlasted what everybody thought he was going to do.

• 2:07:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:07:43Speaker 02

  Impeachment, get out, criminal, corruption, money being paid off to his guys, the clothes, the dresses, the suits, the talking shit, the coming in, that you don't have the hands, the Trump saying, you can't talk like that then. You don't, you know, dresses, sir, I'm not playing cards with you. All of these moments that he went through, he simply outlasted. And by the way, just so you know, I am not a fan of this guy whatsoever, I'm not, I'm not a fan of Zelensky. But you gotta give credit to an, to an enemy or whoever it is, that sometimes in the game, all you have to do is outlast until people realize what is really going on. You know what we did learn? Did you see yesterday what all Fox was talking about? That, that, that how much we've ran out of equipment for military, did you see that?

• 2:08:25Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 2:08:26Speaker 02

  By the way, and, and this is Fox talking about it.

• 2:08:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's bad.

• 2:08:29Speaker 02

  Who do you think's watching Fox? Iran's watching Fox?

• 2:08:31Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 2:08:32Speaker 02

  Russia's watching Fox? China's watching Fox? On a Sunday where everybody is home with the family, watching these Fox News people saying, the challenge with the US government right now, our military, is our military is weak today. Weapon stockpile shortage is impacting military strategy in the Middle East. What? Did you ever think Fox News was gonna write an article saying this? Yes, I would have expected from CNN, yes, I would have expected from ABC or NBC, but for Fox to say, do you think Trump likes this? By the way, do you actually think Trump likes that article?

• 2:09:02Speaker 09

  No, of course not.

• 2:09:03Speaker 02

  Do you think Trump likes that headline? Why does he not like that headline? You're losing the leverage in negotiation.

• 2:09:08Speaker 03

  Point of weakness.

• 2:09:08Speaker 02

  Whether you have that or not, you never say that worldwide. You never say that, you never let your opponent know, so imagine if that's true. Well, i- is this the clip? Is this the clip? Can you play the clip of Iran was depleted, uh, key US ammunition? There's a clip of it, I don't know if you have that or not.

• 2:09:25Speaker 03

  We talked about it three weeks ago.

• 2:09:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, but, but Tom, now, the, now the problem is, now Fox is talking about it, now everyone's talking about it.

• 2:09:32Speaker 03

  We shouldn't know, Pat, we shouldn't even know about it, because if we're hearing it-

• 2:09:35Speaker 09

  Pat, I agree with you on that, there's a flip side of the story, though.

• 2:09:37Speaker 02

  What's that?

• 2:09:38Speaker 09

  Where are their munitions? What does Iran have? What does Russia have? China's not funding this operation anymore, what does Venezuela have? All these people that we've, we've used our, used our weapon we own?

• 2:09:47Speaker 02

  No, no, bro.

• 2:09:48Speaker 09

  They have no weapons anymore.

• 2:09:49Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, no, let me-

• 2:09:49Speaker 09

  You're saying that they're better off?

• 2:09:50Speaker 02

  No, Adam, let me tell you, look, uh, uh, I'm a big guy, okay? And I used to fight a lot in the army, okay? And so, I remember one time, I, I go up, we're in boot camp, I'm the, I'm in the best shape of my life. This five-six guy begs me to give him a chance to go up against me. He does. There's a hundred people around watching this fight. You know what happens within five, six seconds?

• 2:10:15Speaker 09

  Please don't tell me you let him beat you up, Pat.

• 2:10:17Speaker 02

  Oh, he beat the living-

• 2:10:19Speaker 09

  Stop it!

• 2:10:20Speaker 02

  No, no, I can't even, I'm, I'm on the floor, he's got, I'm tapping out.

• 2:10:23Speaker 09

  Pat, don't admit this on camera, people are listening.

• 2:10:25Speaker 02

  He knows who this guy was.

• 2:10:26Speaker 09

  Pat, people are listening right now.

• 2:10:26Speaker 02

  I asked him.

• 2:10:27Speaker 09

  Was it our friend, uh-

• 2:10:28Speaker 02

  I said, what happened? What was this? He says, I was a state champion, and I said, where are you from? He said, either Ohio or Florida, one of those states that produces- And by the way, not one punch, was purely wrestling. So I went in like this, he's like freak, and this is why jujitsu nowadays is like the thing to do. I don't know if you saw the guy that went in, in the hospital, the nurse, did you see what the nurse did to this other guy?

• 2:10:47Speaker 09

  No.

• 2:10:48Speaker 02

  So can you pull up the nurse that uses jujitsu in the hospital and arrest the guy that was trying to hit him? You have to see this clip, this is the point I'm trying to make to you. We learned along, we're learning today, size doesn't matter when it comes down to street, that's the one right there. Watch this clip, watch what this guy does, here, here's a nurse, look how he's standing. You're gonna learn, the guy's gonna-

• 2:11:10Speaker 03

  A male nurse?

• 2:11:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, just, just watch him, just watch him, he tried, look, look what he does, boom, he comes in, trying to attack him. Okay, look what he does now, and look how he ends it.

• 2:11:18Speaker 03

  Choke him out?

• 2:11:18Speaker 02

  Okay, look how he ends it, he's not hurting the guy.

• 2:11:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:11:21Speaker 02

  He's not even hitting him, like, he's not trying to use his power to destroy the guy. All he does is he got him, he gets him down.

• 2:11:27Speaker 03

  He's done.

• 2:11:27Speaker 02

  Okay, but watch, watch this.

• 2:11:29Speaker 03

  That guy's insane.

• 2:11:29Speaker 02

  He calls the cops to come with their handcuffs, he knows he has him in, in control right now. The guy's got the phone, trying to record, look at this.

• 2:11:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:11:37Speaker 02

  He's done.

• 2:11:38Speaker 03

  Put the phone down.

• 2:11:38Speaker 02

  Now, now the guy comes in, he's not even trying to choke him, he's just got him under control.

• 2:11:42Speaker 03

  Good for him.

• 2:11:42Speaker 02

  Cops come, they get him, and look how he gets up, as if he does this five times a day. Look how, look how he comes in, cops get him, boom, and look how he gets up.

• 2:11:50Speaker 03

  I'm going back to my shit.

• 2:11:51Speaker 02

  All right, guys, let me get back to my shit. Okay?

• 2:11:53Speaker 03

  Go get my-

• 2:11:54Speaker 02

  Regular day.

• 2:11:54Speaker 03

  That's a gangster right there.

• 2:11:55Speaker 09

  That must have said it all.

• 2:11:56Speaker 02

  Check this out, he, Zelensky and, and Ukraine is that, Iran is that. US is the big bodybuilder that fights, Russia is the big heavyweight. We're learning today, this is why Palmer Lucky is solving one of our biggest leaks in America. Guys are making small drones, realizing what this Javid, what, what is that drone?

• 2:12:18Speaker 03

  Javelin drone?

• 2:12:18Speaker 02

  No, no, the drone that Iran makes, what did it call it?

• 2:12:20Speaker 03

  Shahid?

• 2:12:21Speaker 02

  Shahid.

• 2:12:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:12:22Speaker 02

  Drones that they make, that Russia was buying.

• 2:12:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:12:24Speaker 02

  Dude, the same thing Iran is doing with the drones, it's the same thing that Ukraine is doing. They learned, hey, the, the smaller guy have to learn how to fight. Instead of learning boxing, take jujitsu. These drones have become the jujitsu of warfare, and, and it's proven them right. So to me, going back to it, as big as we are, we're sitting here realizing, we don't have the interceptors, we only have a certain amount of, amount of interceptors. These guys are using stuff that costs a thousand, two thousand dollars to make, we're building stuff that makes tens, billions of dollars, because these Boeing and these big guys are getting the contracts. No, this is a very, very different game we're playing today, very.

• 2:13:00Speaker 09

  I, I understand the small guy.

• 2:13:01Speaker 02

  And, and this is a guy that's pro-America, like, you know, all the way- When we were fighting against smaller companies that were taking agents, one time a smaller, one time a business took fifteen hundred insurance agents from us in a year. Maybe even you were there when that happened. An insurance company took fif, they took five hundred agents from one of my guys in ninety days. Five hundred agents. This is twenty twenty, twenty twenty-one.

• 2:13:23Speaker 09

  Okay, of course I was there.

• 2:13:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, so like this, they took the, it was the biggest catastrophe when this was going on. Then all of a sudden, you know how they started doing it? They infiltrated through Zoom meetings that we used to do. So we were doing Zoom meetings, and these guys would come in, and they would message people through their accounts on Zoom. And next thing you know, how did you lose the people? Well, I did a meeting with everybody on Zoom, and people got in, then they started putting their numbers. My guys out of curiosity, texted them, next thing you know, I lost five hundred agents. What?

• 2:13:51Speaker 02

  Then 1500 agents in 12 months. How did that happen? So what are we gonna do? Are we gonna sit there and be like, well, we're the bigger guys? No, no. We realize they're using tools that you're not using. And sometimes they're gonna beat you. So I hope America's adjusting. The part that I'm very excited about is guys like Palmer Lucky that are getting into this space.

• 2:14:09Speaker 09

  I think he was just on Rogan, I want to say.

• 2:14:11Speaker 02

  He was a few months ago. Find a massive problem, then go solve it. And he's solving a massive problem that America has long term, and it's very real.

• 2:14:20Speaker 09

  Thank God he's on our side.

• 2:14:22Speaker 02

  Thank God he's on our side, yes. Let me wrap it up with the last story and then we should finish up because we got calibration to do today. We got calibration to do all day today. All right, so Bill Gates has got a Q clearance from the DOE for many years. And people are asking, saying, how's that even possible? They got this clearance for seven year. And why won't the DOE say why? From 2014 to 2021, Department of Energy, and this is a Zero H article that we're talking about. I think it's on page four. If you guys haven't seen this, the story, addendum 14. So let me, let me kind of go through this with you. Bill Gates held a top clearance Q for seven years. DOE won't say why.

• 2:15:04Speaker 02

  Okay, so Microsoft, the details come from a DOE letter entered into congressional record by Senator Rand Paul. The letter emerged as Fauci faced fierce Republican blowback during the Senate hearing last week, where the longtime face of COVID policy pleaded the fifth more than 111 times. And a Q clearance is the Energy Department's highest classification level, the kind normally reserved for people working on nuclear weapons designs, which Vinnie, you worked at a nuclear base at one point.

• 2:15:32Speaker 09

  Yep.

• 2:15:33Speaker 02

  National Labs, Critical Energy Infrastructure and Highly Classified Scientific Research. Gates kept that clearance for seven years, starting under President Obama and running through the entirety of COVID-19 pandemic. One explanation as to why Gates founded the Chair Terra Power, an advanced nuclear reactor company that has spent years working alongside DOE National Laboratories and won Nuclear Regulatory Commission Construction Approval in March. A nuclear executive holding a nuclear clearance is not on its own a scandal. But the letter, the letter doesn't mention Terra Power or why he had it at all. What it does say is that the clearance was granted reciprocally on June 11th,

• 2:16:15Speaker 02

  meaning it originated at another federal agency and DOE simply honored it before terminating on December 6, 2021. The letter does not name the agency that vetted him in the first place. By the way, December 6, 2021 is, is right when I think Trump was, December 6, 2021. What's the special thing about that? But anyways, Vinnie, when you see this, how do you process this?

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• 2:19:17Speaker 01

  Well, first of all, from somebody having the clearance that I had, working around nuclear missile base, I might draw.

• 2:19:22Speaker 02

  How big of a deal is Q?

• 2:19:23Speaker 01

  Pat, Q is, is highly classified nuclear, like it's extremely unusual for a civilian computer nerd guy to have that clearance. The people that are in the Pentagon, walking around the Pentagon that nobody knows, but these are rooms where you walk in, thumb clearance, eye scan. This is, Q clearance is freaking extremely high. Okay, and in that document, I don't know if you know this too, that Rand Paul released, it showed that Anthony Fauci personally edited Bill Gates' manuscripts and then Francis Collins was internally trying to explain the Gates Foundation's funding ties to the NIH and DARPA briefed the Gates Foundation on military biological threat programs, including transmissible LASSA vaccine, the LASSS vaccine.

• 2:20:06Speaker 01

  So think about it, for 20 years, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, they built a relationship with the federal government that went far beyond any normal public, private partnership. Okay, it was a relationship built on high access at the highest levels. And, and this is my opinion, I think, Tom, it was all coordinated. Look, look at everything, guys, that came out of COVID, okay? And all the purposes it served, especially with the globalist ideology that these people like Bill Gates has, okay? How long was Bill Gates saying that one of our biggest problems was, you know, pandemic's coming? Pandemic is coming. He kept, I have, we could show clips of 10 of times where he's in front of a camera warning of us that, that it was coming. And then another 10 clips of him saying, our biggest problem is overpopulation. There's too many of us. So look what happens.

• 2:20:51Speaker 01

  COVID hits, it kills a bunch of people, almost a million people. He spent years talking about it, okay? Then his companies and all these people, all the connections make billions of dollars on all the vaccines. Then COVID happens and then one of the most trusted voices on the virus, he's just, he has no degree in science. He's a computer nerd. And then, then think about this timing, Tom. On October 18th, 2019, a lot of people out there that know me are gonna know this. Two months before COVID hits, that was identified, the William and Melinda Gates Foundation partnered with the John Hopkins Center for Health and Security and the World Economic Forum to host Event 201, which was a tabletop exercise that simulated a global pandemic virus.

• 2:21:35Speaker 01

  Okay, you decide for yourself what that means, but when you put the timeline together of the level of access that he had, the DOJ is not saying anything. The influence and everything that followed, it's easy to understand why everybody has questions, why people like Fauci and all these guys have to be held accountable. Notice how, Tom, this is, besides the Epstein stuff, besides him allegedly in emails asking for freaking medication to slip in his wife's drink for allegedly giving her an STD because he was hooking up with Russian hookers, okay? This guy, everybody, was I the only one questioning? What, what does Bill Gates, why is he behind all this stuff? And why is he pushing depopulation and pushing vaccines and warning us about COVID? And then it hits. And then, incidentally, you're doing an exercise two months before it hits?

• 2:22:20Speaker 01

  Come on, at what point do we have to say, oh my God, this is just coincidence? And say what it is, Tom, honestly?

• 2:22:25Speaker 03

  I think a lot of people have been talking about Bill Gates in this. I, I had read articles about terrible things that had happened to some young girls in India that had received treatments and suffered, you know, the health consequences of those, really bad stuff, nasty stuff. And that the Gates Foundation was basically out there controlling population and, actually, not controlling population, advocating for things that control population. So they were on the side of, wow, there's only so much water, there's only so much food, there's only so much technology to clean the water, transport the water and to grow the food. You know, we need to work on the supply-side dynamic of Mother Earth.

• 2:23:09Speaker 03

  And so there's been a lot of that with the Gates Foundation going on for a long time. This stuff doesn't surprise anyone. How he surfaced among, you know, you know, the COVID and everything that went with that and then with Epstein, it's just, it just gets stickier and stickier. To the point that Berkshire Hathaway, you know, there may be a new CEO, but there is still an owner. And, you know, Warren Buffett has stepped back from the Gates Foundation, completely stepped back, even to say, distance himself, Gates, even calling some of the stuff highly unfortunate and questionable.

• 2:23:43Speaker 02

  Adam.

• 2:23:44Speaker 09

  First, I'm hearing the story, I'm gonna set this one out.

• 2:23:46Speaker 02

  All right, sounds good, there you go. Well, listen, for those of you guys that got Q clearances, maybe reach out to Vinnie.

• 2:23:51Speaker 09

  Yeah, the only thing I have ever heard about was Q and on, so this is different.

• 2:23:54Speaker 02

  What's going on with that? But gang, for, for those of you guys that wear the Future Looks Bright proudly, we are, I think, 30 days away from launching our brand that we're working on behind closed doors, which I don't even want to reveal fully to you, I can't wait. Some of the people that were on site here saw the new items that are coming out. It's gonna be sick, the highest quality material that we're getting to share with you, with two new shoes being launched, which is gonna be crazy. So stay tuned, for those of you guys, and I'm gonna wrap up the entire podcast with the Future Looks Bright shoes. If you haven't yet got it for yourself, this is all I wear. And so with that being said, gang, we enjoyed it, we will do it again Friday on the podcast. With that being said, here's the FLB shoes.

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  If you have the clip, Connor, in the back, let's finish the podcast with the FLB clip. If you do have it, just play the clip, we will wrap it up with that. Connor, again, I'm waiting for you to see if you have the clip to pull up. If he doesn't have it, just go to vtmerch.com to place your order. How much time do you guys need?

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  It's coming, it's coming.

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  Because he's done good so far today, I mean, I want to finish good. There you go, all right. Start it from the beginning, go for it.

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