Hantavirus Lockdowns + Fauci's DOJ Deadline | PBD #794

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana and Adam Sosnick break down Howard Lutnick’s reported Epstein-related testimony that's stirring new questions about who inside elite financial circles knew about a $1B+ trafficking operation—and what could surface next as pressure builds. Then: a hantavirus outbreak spreading across Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of California has the CDC on alert as rodent-driven infections rise and public health officials warn of higher fatality rates than COVID, while Dr. Anthony Fauci faces a looming DOJ deadline tied to ongoing investigations into pandemic-era decisions and testimony. ------ ✍️ FILL OUT THE PBD PODCAST SURVEY & GET $25 TO VTMERCH. COM: https://bit.ly/42dpShr 🦁 THE VAULT 2026: AUG 31ST TO SEPT 1ST: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mZdLhD⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mZdLhD Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠ 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:14Patrick Bet-David?

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right here.

• 0:18Adam Sosnick?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:19Speaker 02

  My son's right there.

• 0:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, let me turn this song off that's been on repeat all morning. By the way, if you know who wrote this song, can you please tell us because it's so confusing? Vinny's gonna sing it for us. Vinny, you know how it goes. It says... Hang on, hang on. Let me, let me Shazam Vinny. You are the only one who rescued me. You know the silver night, you keep all my secrets. Go ahead, Vinny.

• 0:48Speaker 03

  Oh, woo!

• 0:49Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go.

• 0:49Speaker 03

  Sorry guys, I'm rusty.

• 0:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I've been listening to this thing on... When I tell you... Vinny, how many times have I listened to it?

• 0:55Speaker 03

  500 times.

• 0:56Patrick Bet-David?

  No joke. And we still don't know who sings it. It's not on Shazam.

• 1:00Speaker 03

  No, it's not.

• 1:00Patrick Bet-David?

  It pulls up to take song take... Anyways, we have bigger issues to talk about. This is my... I tried to Shazam it, it says...

• 1:06Adam Sosnick?

  That's your thing though, PBD. You like to listen to one song over and over and over again for hours.

• 1:12Patrick Bet-David?

  What was the Hall & Oates song that you kept going? Uh, which one is it? Hall & Oates is, uh, Man Eater? Is it? No, no, it's the other one. Um, what's the Hall & Oates song? Yeah, yeah, I know which one you're talking about. We listen to it a lot. Anyways, okay. Stories to get into. Vinny's number one story, antivirus. We got some stats to talk to you about. This luxury cruise ship carrying 147 passengers and, uh, three dead, eight cases, uh, with a death rate. I don't know what the percentage was.

• 1:40Speaker 03

  38%.

• 1:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, CDC's responding and Vinny's got some thoughts. Tom's got some thoughts. Adam's gonna sit down one out, but we got other stories that we're gonna get into with Adam as well. Um, you got US Iran exchanged some, uh, fire. Trump called it a love tap, you know, going back and forth. Who knows what's going on there? Report comes in for the last two days, a C-135 has been missing for two days. Uh, CENTCOM hasn't said anything about it. Who was on it? Where is it at? I know the last report we got is that it's in Qatar, but who knows what happened there? Iran hasn't said anything about it. US hasn't said anything about it, but, uh, we'll see. Obama took some shots. On a podcast saying, hey, these people in the White House have too many side hustles. What do you do for a living, Doug?

• 2:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you're like a president or you're, you got a lot of part-time businesses you're running. And by the way, lots of other shots, Colbert, Michelle Obama, even Dave Chappelle got involved with this whole conversation. Saying what they have to say. Stefan Diggs will be one of the stories we have to address. He'll be the 10th one where his chef tried to sue him for five. I've never seen anybody do a worse job that the judge finally chews her out and says, "Answer the damn question." This is a criminal. And by the way, at the end, he was let go. If he didn't, if he didn't have those clips, says, "Did you get slapped in the face?" "I did." And he got, "You got slapped by the right hand?" "Yes." "Where did it slap you?" "My right side of my cheek." And he's like, "It's the left." "You slapped right."

• 3:08Patrick Bet-David?

  So did they slap like this? And he goes like this. Like a no look basketball hit. That's Bruce Leroy. Bruce Lee Diggs is what it is. And then, you know, this whole thing with Amber, what do you call it? Blake Lively trying to ruin Justin Baldoni's life. And all of a sudden, that's also wrapping up. So maybe some people are saying Blake Lively equals Amber Heard. And then the other two stories that we got, Fauci, the last day is Monday. We have to get into that. Vinny's got some thoughts. This is the last chance. Fauci countdown. They'll do something. A lot of people are saying nothing will happen by Monday to Fauci. So we'll see. Look Max Inc., we're getting into the Look Max Inc. Tom was. Yeah, no doubt about it. By the way, Tom. Tom was smashing his face.

• 3:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And then LA mayor race, LA mayor race. Now it's getting so bad that Karen Bass is going after the communist socialist candidate. And Spencer Pratt is just, you know, he's doing great stuff with his back and forth. And then Lutnick, did I say Lutnick Epstein? We'll get into that. He had something that happened yesterday. Even Comer came out and said, look, there's some things that just don't add up. And then Tennessee redistricting is going to be a big story, big race, a big conversation that we'll have. And if we get a chance, we'll get into some of these other stories that is currently taking place. You know, the approval rating. I got a few other stories. Well, we'll see. We'll see what happens as we're going through it. Now, in the interim, for those of you who did the survey,

• 4:34Patrick Bet-David?

  we sent another, yesterday, remember when I told you we're gonna give another hour? Two thousand of you signed up, so now I think we're at fourteen thousand five hundred people that completed the survey. Oh, my goodness. We're wrapping up the entire survey today, and we're gonna send it to you guys, uh, who text the word PBD to three one zero three four zero one one three two. Again, if you text the word PBD to three one zero three four zero one one three two. And for those of you that completed the survey, Shopify sent the twenty-five-dollar gift card in your email. Go take advantage of it, because day one, we were not expecting this many people to use their Shopify gift card. Go use it, because some of the supplies that you have, look, it's just twenty-five bucks.

• 5:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Go use it, go take advantage of the products that we have, before some of these items are already selling out. Uh, so if you check your email, you will see an email from Shopify, uh, giving you guys a twenty-five-dollar gift card to go activate. And again, thanks to everybody that did the survey Monday. Those of you that text the word PBD to three one zero three four zero one one three two, you'll get a chance to see the report. It's funny, everybody we were talking to when we did this, they're like, "You shouldn't do it." People had YouTube and Spotify, "What if they say things?" I'm like, "That's exactly what we want." And we want the exact feedback, and, uh, we'll have the conversation ourselves here as well. With that being said, let's get right into it. The first story I want to get into, Rob, is antivirus.

• 5:57Patrick Bet-David?

  So antivirus, everybody's kind of minding their own business, and then we start seeing these clips again on ships. "Hey, you know, this person died, that person died." And then the same guy Tedros comes back up, and people are like, "Wait a minute, that guy's back up again?" Yes. What is really the headline of the story? "A luxury cruise ship carrying one hundred and forty-seven passengers sailing towards Canary Island with a confirmed NADAS antivirus outbreak, onboard three dead eight cases, and the only known antivirus strain that spreads person to person. The World Health Organization has deployed an expert onboard, shipping twenty-five hundred diagnostic kits to five countries, and says this is not the next COVID." They're already saying that upfront.

• 6:38Patrick Bet-David?

  to not scare the crap out of people but with no approved vaccine no approved treatment with a 38% kill rate the world is paying attention and by the way the states that they're looking at that they're literally following the people that were tied to it was Georgia two residents monitored Arizona one resident flagged by Arizona Department of Health and Services California undisclosed number of residents under CDC coordinator observation but the CDC stated again this is important because we don't want to do fear porn here and maybe maybe others are going to be doing that the risk to the American public at this time is extremely low you know what's the scary part of that sentence at this time okay so with that being said Rob if you got a couple of clips to play before I go to let's start off with Ted

• 7:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Ross if you don't remember him oh man he was the guy that was the director general of CDC and here's what he had to say go for it Rob

• 7:31Speaker 04

  eight cases have been reported including three deaths five of the eight cases have been confirmed as antivirus and the other three are suspected WHO is aware of reports of other people with symptoms who may have had contact with one of the passengers

• 7:53Patrick Bet-David?

  you can pause it like this just repeating what I said so they confirmed five out of the eight cases have been laboratory confirmed as a anders virus three patients evacuated to Netherlands one critically ill in an ICU in Africa so Vinny I'll come to you first what are your thoughts with the story

• 8:07Speaker 03

  like here we go again and I really hope that America don't don't go all up in arms but we have every right not to trust anybody especially Mr Tedros over here because there's another video Pat where he says um we really need this incident this outbreak to show why the world needs a global entity that connects this okay he says that he hopes this incident will make Argentina and the US reconsidered

• 8:31Patrick Bet-David?

  say that

• 8:31Speaker 03

  yes he did I'm I'm literally quoting this reconsider their decisions to withdraw from the hood because mind you we withdrew in 2025 Rob January if I believe he said the best immunity we have is solidarity okay and if that's not a threat Argentina pulled out in March 2026 and then less than two months later weird that a boat leaving from Argentina getting infected with this virus. And I'm sorry, I'm not that silver, what do they, what do they call it? The foil hat, tin foil. No, this is just the truth. And I don't know if you know this or not, you know how it comes, how people get it from?

• 9:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Tin hat, tin hat men.

• 9:04Speaker 03

  Tin hat.

• 9:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Part of the tin hat.

• 9:05Speaker 03

  I'm not from the tin hat group.

• 9:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 9:06Speaker 03

  You know how, how allegedly this, this thing contracts and how people get the hands of virus? From rodent feces, sniffing rodent feces or, or ingesting it. Okay? This is the one, and by the way, the one that you mentioned, the Andrus strain.

• 9:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, let me read that. Let me read that because I'm gonna, I'm gonna come to you because this is what Tom pointed out yesterday in the article. Argentine investigators now believe that a Dutch couple who was responsible for bringing the virus onboard after picking it up from rodents when visiting a landfill during a bird watching tour in the city of Ushuaia, days before the ship departed from Argentine port on March 20th. Both husband and wife are now dead. So they're saying it came from picking up this rodent. Now, how did they know that story, Vinnie?

• 9:50Speaker 03

  You, you tell me, and he made a great point yesterday. What was the COVID one?

• 9:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Which, which part of it?

• 9:55Speaker 03

  The bat.

• 9:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It said, hey, it was a, it's a wet market. They ate a bat that they picked up in a wet market in the middle of China. No, no, no, we've used that one already. We need something bigger. Hey, wait a minute. What about a Dutch couple like on a cruise ship? I like that because no one knows where Dutch is. That's the type of people it is out the country. Yeah, well, we'll call them Dutch. And maybe, maybe they were bird watching. Yeah, by a, a landfill.

• 10:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Bird watching by, yeah, that smells great. Hey, let's go by a landfill, the aromatic beauty of a landfill.

• 10:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:24Tom Ellsworth?

  And we'll go bird watching and, oh, wait a minute. Is that, is that, is that rat waving his butt at me? I don't know. Let me see it.

• 10:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie, continue.

• 10:34Tom Ellsworth?

  You're right. It is, it is.

• 10:35Patrick Bet-David?

  We lost time. We lost time for a second.

• 10:37Speaker 03

  But I get the story that it's just an unbelievable story that they're still going to try to use it on us and to hell with them. It's not going to work. So right now the ship is actually headed to the Canary Islands, Pat. The ETA is May 11th. And weird, what's 11th? May 11th, Rob? That's the day that Fauci's deadline for his five year, um, what's it called? Statue of limitations for him.

• 10:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, your audio is off.

• 10:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, so meanwhile, passengers have already left the ship. Guys, this is what drives me crazy. They've been dropping passengers off left and right. They're scattered all over the place in different countries, thinking that they're fine. And mind you, it takes eight weeks, Pat, up to eight weeks for this to, to actually give you some symptoms.

• 11:14Tom Ellsworth?

  They say, they say.

• 11:16Speaker 03

  And another little fun fact, Rob, maybe you could look this up. The Hantavirus is listed in Pfizer's 38-page document on page 33. Guess what one of the side effects is? The Hantavirus. Weird. A vaccine that they pushed on everybody, one of the side effects is the virus. It's in there. Oh, isn't that weird? So now they're looking into the situation, saying, look, they're telling us that this could possibly be a side effect connected with COVID. Weird. And then you find out another fun fact. Moderna and the Korea University are already working on a mRNA Hantavirus vaccine from 2024. Again, maybe it's normal research, maybe they're preparing for threats, just like Bill Gates had been warning us and his videos of Fauci warning us, like they're freaking psychics.

• 12:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Interesting. Look at these side effects here. May cause pulmonary distress, may cause stock to go up.

• 12:06Speaker 03

  Oh, weird. Right there in the side effect. Very interesting. And then Gene Hackman, do you guys remember Gene Hackman's wife? Who passed away? She died of a Hantavirus and everybody was...

• 12:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, they both died, right? And they were found like a week later tragically.

• 12:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, and the dog, the dogs, somebody killed the dogs as well, which puts the, you know, the virus back in the public conversation. And then, this is a random one, Rob. In 2022, Pat, a guy or an account called Soothesayer posted this. He posted, in 2022, he posted this. 2023, Corona ended. 2026, Hantavirus. This is in 1:30 in the morning, maybe he had, maybe Fauci was visiting him or something. June 11th in 2022, he posted that. And this is the problem, Pat. After COVID...

• 12:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, who tweeted that?

• 12:52Speaker 03

  So a guy named Soothesayer. Might be a guy, might be a girl. He did that in 2022.

• 12:56Tom Ellsworth?

  He gets wide coverage. Look at the stats there.

• 12:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Zee, go on his account, Rob, just to see if he's done other things. Okay, so he's 59,400. Who is he?

• 13:04Speaker 03

  I don't even know.

• 13:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Reads the future? What? Go back to the tweet?

• 13:08Speaker 03

  Pat, he's an astrologer. So you know everything he says is accurate.

• 13:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So 2023 Corona ended. He posted on June 11, 2022 at 1:30 a.m. And in 2026, he says antivirus is gonna come.

• 13:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that Fauci's burner account?

• 13:24Speaker 03

  Or Bill Gates, and it's just, and this is what it is, Pat, and this is the scary thing, or not, not the scary, it's the sad thing. Kind of combine the both. They, they screwed with us so much. They did so much damage, and we're gonna get to Fauci. Even if this is real, we don't believe you, okay? You've lost your credibility, every single one of you. When you silence people like Peter McCullough, when you silence people like, um, who's the other guy, Rob, with the beard?

• 13:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, Malone, Robert.

• 13:50Speaker 03

  Robert Malone? These are people that were telling us, like, guys, this is what's happening, early detection, we can help all you people. They lied, they censored people, they kicked people off of YouTube, they tried to lock people up because of this, and it's absolutely, like blindly trusting the who, and there's a great clip. Uh, Pat, can we, can I just touch on Fauci really fast?

• 14:09Patrick Bet-David?

  For sure.

• 14:09Speaker 03

  Fauci, May 11th, weird, when the ship is about to dock, it's coming up on his five-year statute of limitation. This is what I want people to understand about Mr. Fauci, and Peter McCullough says why he needs to get locked up and the crimes, the two major crimes, and if you're out there and you're listening, you have family members that passed away, couldn't see family members when they died, or you're dealing with a family member, potentially a young son of yours, or a cousin, or a nephew, that has freaking myocarditis, it's because of him. Okay, so Rob, please play this, uh, Sage clip with, uh, Dr. McCullough. Sir, girl Sage still.

• 14:42Speaker 06

  Anthony Fauci right now, today.

• 14:45Speaker 04

  I would say that a man who seeks 10 years of clemency.

• 14:52Speaker 03

  He asked for it, Pat.

• 14:53Speaker 04

  Which he did, by the way, to get a pardon, it's not handed out without a request.

• 14:58Speaker 03

  He asked for it.

• 14:58Speaker 04

  He approached Biden for 10 years pardon for crimes he knew he committed.

• 15:05Speaker 03

  Bingo.

• 15:07Speaker 04

  He knew he committed. That's the reason why he asked for.

• 15:09Speaker 06

  I would tell him, listen, the world understands that Fauci has committed two crimes.

• 15:17Speaker 03

  Here we go.

• 15:17Speaker 06

  One is fraudulent concealment. He intentionally concealed the origins of SARS-CoV-2 from his funded projects in Wuhan. It's fraudulent concealment. If we would have known what the story was originally, I think we could have done better in our pandemic response. And the second major crime I think he committed is mass negligent homicide. By two mechanisms, two mechanisms. First, he worked to suppress our efforts at publishing and promulgating early treatment protocols, which worked to get people through the illness. And secondly, he relentlessly promoted unsafe vaccines.

• 15:54Speaker 03

  Righty.

• 15:54Speaker 06

  That took hundreds of thousands of American lives.

• 15:58Speaker 03

  And then?

• 15:58Speaker 06

  And millions of lives worldwide. It's been the greatest biological catastrophe mankind has ever seen. And largely Fauci is responsible for orchestrating this on the world.

• 16:10Speaker 03

  And by the way, you heard what he said, Pat? So fraudulent concealment. Guys, when everybody was like, bat, bat, bat, wet market, he knew where it came from. He knew exactly where it came from and he lied. So he, he like stifled everybody's investigations and to try to find the origin. And number two, he said mass negligent homicide. And it drives me crazy. All these people, all these Democrats at home, all the leftists, you could do a stupid no kings protest that doesn't do nothing. Here you have proof from actual doctors, actual virologists, all these people that where's your mass negligent homicide protest? Where's, no, I'm being dead serious. Where, where's the outrage? It's just Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, King nonsense.

• 16:51Speaker 03

  I think, Pat, this should be the number one story, millions worldwide and hundreds of thousands of Americans and nothing. And nobody's, there's no protest and no caring about it. It drives me bananas because I almost, I almost got duped into taking this thing, which I know would have killed me, to do stand-up comedy in a different, Canada wouldn't let me come unless like, no, you have to get vaccinated. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 17:11Tom Ellsworth?

  So if you wanted to, you know, start something, you would do it on a cruise ship. Why not? And I was, I was reading, I was reading some things last night, and again, not tinfoil hat. These are people that said, listen, if you really wanted to circulate something, the best place to circulate a disease, literally is on a modern cruise ship in someplace like a Caribbean cruise Miami, or going a Pacific North cruise out of Why is that? San Francisco, because the number of people that fly into Miami, they get on that cruise, they come from many other places. Now they go all around the islands, and they're concentrated with each other, eating dinner with each other, sitting out with each other, and so you're in contact with everybody every day. So now you've got the ability to spread on

• 17:54Tom Ellsworth?

  the cruise ship, and then guess what you do, Pat, at the end of 10 days? You go back to Miami, and they all get on planes, going back All over the world. Go all over the world, everywhere. And so San Francisco and Miami, and if you were gonna go around Southern Europe, it would be Venice. Remember, we took a cruise from Venice, Italy. We took a cruise, we went to Spleet, Croatia, we went to Greece, we saw the ruins at Athens. So we went all around. We went to, you know, the island off of Greece where everybody goes with the blue roofs. Santorini. Santorini and Poppy. So I read that, and it says, cruise ship to do it. And I'm like, huh, that's weird. And then I saw a link, and I just, last night, check this

• 18:34Tom Ellsworth?

  out. Rob put this up, the Aaron, CNN, and the guy. This guy on CNN, by the way, Mary Talley Bowden, another one of the people, remember her? Pushing it. She was absolutely persecuted down in Houston by the Houston Hospital and everything, and she was sounded even, you know, God bless, God bless the doctor you just showed, but she was this reasonable voice, and she's writing a book that's gonna come out in a few weeks. But look at this. Mary Talley Bowden, last night, to my knowledge, no one has studied ivermectin as treatment for antivirus. Ivermectin is multiple antiviral and any inflammatory properties that could potentially work against antivirus. So why hasn't anybody studied it? Ivermectin is credibly safe, they've used it in thousands of patients. Now scroll

• 19:18Tom Ellsworth?

  up a little bit, Rob, to the Aaron. You know, out front with Aaron, this guy is, is out there talking about a 40 day lockdown. 11 hours ago, late news last night. And so there, there's things that are happening, Pat, that are bothering me.

• 19:35Patrick Bet-David?

  He said a 40 day lockdown?

• 19:36Speaker 03

  He did, he did.

• 19:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is this guy?

• 19:38Speaker 03

  I don't know, but he's on CNN. So you know what's up.

• 19:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Joseph Allen from Harvard University School of Public Health.

• 19:44Patrick Bet-David?

  At what point does he say 40, 40 day lockdown, Rob?

• 19:48Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know, I've not heard this yet.

• 19:50Speaker 03

  It's in there, he's, he's.

• 19:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Because eight weeks, he was talking eight weeks and seven times eight is 56. So if you, if you, if you do a lockdown, if you think the country is being contaminated and you think it takes six weeks or eight weeks to get from person to person, then you want everyone to stay home and away from each other for 40 days.

• 20:09Speaker 03

  Yeah. And apparently, Pat, some of the people that got dropped off here, I hope they find those guys and lock them down.

• 20:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Nobody has proven, nobody has proven eight weeks. And this may come from medical professionals and may be correct, but nobody has proven that.

• 20:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:20Tom Ellsworth?

  There, nobody's, I haven't seen the study. I can't say nobody's proven it. I have not seen the widespread publication that hantavirus is an eight week incubation, person to person. I haven't seen it. If it's out there, hey, put it in the chat, show it to us.

• 20:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You found it, Rob?

• 20:34Tom Ellsworth?

  I did.

• 20:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it.

• 20:36Speaker 04

  ...with this virus, the long incubation period, and now we have people scattered really around the globe that are being properly tracked, isolated, quarantined, and get it under control. But what they did was they quarantined and isolated people for 40 days because of the long incubation period. So unfortunately, this is a, a key factor in us trying to figure out, how do we keep people safe? How do we prevent further spread? I mean, we're all tracking right now is that potential secondary spread.

• 21:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So let me say this to you. So there are 23 passengers wandering around the world. On tour, three days ago, no one had contacted them. The passenger told Spanish newspaper, El Pais, the Australian went back to Australia, the one from Taiwan went back to Taiwan, the Americans to all corners of North America, the Englishmen to England, the Dutch to their homes. I don't remember the rest. One of those passengers, a Swissman who returned home with his wife, tested positive for hantavirus on Wednesday's, Wednesday authority, authority sets. Is this the one that's crying, emotional, talking about?

• 21:30Speaker 03

  One guy and you tell me, is, Pat, do you feel this is authentic and out of, have you been on the cruise?

• 21:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Here we go again. You're going to kill.

• 21:37Speaker 03

  Are you ready for this? Guys, tell me if you guys believe in number one, number two. This is the only video I've seen. When you see a cruise ship, there's fights, there's drinking. This is the only video on TikTok that came out of this entire situation. Go ahead, Rob.

• 21:53Speaker 04

  I normally wouldn't make a video like this, but I feel like I need to say something. So I wrote a few things down.

• 21:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Sounds like a Republican.

• 21:59Speaker 04

  I'm currently on board the MV Hades. And what's happening right now is very real for all of us here. We're not just a story. We're not just headlines. We're people, people with families.

• 22:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Is he in the sauna?

• 22:15Speaker 04

  With blood, with people waiting for us at home.

• 22:19Tom Ellsworth?

  People with blood? How unusual.

• 22:22Speaker 04

  There's a lot of uncertainty.

• 22:23Patrick Bet-David?

  He looks to the right.

• 22:24Speaker 03

  He's reading it. This is so fake, bro.

• 22:27Patrick Bet-David?

  He keeps looking to the right.

• 22:28Speaker 04

  All we want right now is to feel safe.

• 22:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, you can pause it right there.

• 22:31Speaker 03

  Fauci's sitting there with a sign going.

• 22:33Patrick Bet-David?

  So, by the way, just so you know, to the average American looking at this, here's what you have to think about. And I want to go to the next story. The average American looking at this, if a Democrat was a president today, now after having gone through COVID, however many years ago, not knowing what is really going on. If a Democrat, you better believe a lot of blue states will be shutting down right now. They'll be sitting there saying, we do this, we do that, we do this. So the benefit of us having gone through it, hopefully we learn from the mistakes. One of the reasons why I wanted to see Fauci being held accountable is to make sure this doesn't happen again. It was a massive, massive disruption the last time this happened. Adam, your final thoughts?

• 23:14Adam Sosnick?

  I'll just go real quick. I'm not freaking out right now. We know about the fear of porn. I totally agree with you about the blue state thing. I will start questioning everything if Anthony Fauci comes out and says, listen, the Hantai Institute of Virology, we're doing gain of rat function. That's when we're like, all right, we got some issues right here. But I basically was like, all right, what should the average person do? And you know what the average person should do? It says, avoid rat infestations. That's basically the number one thing. So I canceled my trip to New York City. That's done. We're not doing that there. So the number one most important thing to do is not freak out. Understand what's going on. Don't pull a Will Ferrell from Old School and everyone's got to keep our composure.

• 23:55Adam Sosnick?

  Calm down. Most likely this is not a big deal, but be mindful because we know what happened during COVID.

• 24:00Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. So let's go to the next story. That's our Adam's advice to you folks.

• 24:05Adam Sosnick?

  Don't freak out. Keep your composure.

• 24:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Life changing advice.

• 24:08Adam Sosnick?

  Get out of New York. Reason for 62. Avoid New York.

• 24:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is the story about Iran and US exchange fires. And the president calling it a fire tap. And people wonder, wait a minute, is something serious going on here? Everybody is like, oh, my God, we're back at it again. And here's how the president had to react. Go ahead, Rob.

• 24:31Speaker 02

  This episode is brought to you by Indeed. You're ready to level up your business, but the pressure to find the right person to make that happen is intense. Indeed sponsored jobs can help carry the load. It boosts your job post to help it reach quality talent fast. Cut through the chaos with Indeed sponsored jobs. Get a $75 sponsored job credit at indeed.com/podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Hiring now? Then this is a job for Indeed sponsored jobs.

• 25:01Speaker 04

  When you shop Kroger delivery, you can expect the savings you love and fresh groceries delivered right to your door. From delicious produce to everyday essentials, enjoy the convenience of delivery and the trusted selection you've come to know from Kroger. Because bringing you fresh, quality groceries is what we do best. Right now, enjoy free delivery on orders of $50 or more with your digital coupon. Restrictions apply. See site for details. Kroger, fresh for everyone.

• 25:31Tom Ellsworth?

  When you're building a company, you learn that trust is what closes deals. You may have the best product, but buyers won't sign without proof that your product is secure, especially if it has AI. Vanta gets you compliant fast with SOC 2, ISO 27001 and more, and keeps you secure with continuous monitoring. Hyperbound, a YC backed startup, used Vanta to unlock the Fortune 100 in under a year. Snowfire got audit ready in a month and closed a multimillion dollar deal. Trust matters. Get started at vanta.com.

• 25:59Speaker 07

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians' health care to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the HouseMajorityPact.com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

• 26:29Tom Ellsworth?

  USAA knows dynamic duos can save the day, like superheroes and sidekicks, or auto and home insurance. With USAA, you can bundle your auto and home and save up to 10%. Tap the banner to learn more and get a quote at USAA.com/bundle. Restrictions apply. After the strike, is the ceasefire with Iran still on? Yeah, it is. They trifled with us today. We blew them away. They trifled. I call that a trifle. I'll let you know when there's no ceasefire. You won't have to know. If there's no ceasefire, you're not gonna have to know. You're just gonna have to look at one big glow coming out of Iran. And they better sign their agreement fast. Could you give us an update on what is the latest in those talks? No, the talks are going very well,

• 27:14Tom Ellsworth?

  but they have to understand, if it doesn't get signed, they're gonna have a lot of pain. They're gonna have a lot of pain. They wanna sign it, I will tell you. They wanna sign it a lot more than I do. What was their response? I think that's what you wanna hear, fellas, right? Or do you wanna hear a different tone? That's the only thing they understand. They don't understand it. We had...

• 27:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom?

• 27:37Tom Ellsworth?

  So, what happened was, there was this Iranian tanker, goes sailing along, and we sent radio signals to it. This is what happens. That's what they go. They radio says, "Hey dude, you know, you're not supposed to be over here." Yeah, they're just sailing along. I said, "Dude, I'm asking you twice, you shouldn't be over here." And so what they did was, rather than torpedo it and spill all that oil into the Gulf, rather than bomb it and set it on fire and have a bunch of sailors on there, who are not military guys, at least we don't think so, get killed. They just, they took that Super Hornet, and they went around and... And they have a 20 millimeter cannon that's on those. And what he did, Pat, is they said he came down and strafed behind the ship twice and fired all those shells at the back because the rudders on these tankers is giant.

• 28:22Tom Ellsworth?

  They have giant rudders and apparently they struck it several times and all of a sudden they disabled the rudder. So now it can't steer. So what does it have to do? It has to stop unless it likes where it's going because it's like picture your steering wheel in your car, Pat, suddenly being frozen. Well, if you like where you're going, that's great, but as soon as you have to turn right or left, you better stop. And so that's, that's what they did. And so they came out after it. He calls it a love tap because we didn't bomb or, you know, aim to lose life or to create environmental disaster by cracking open a tanker with oil in it into the, into the Gulf. We give it a little love tap and basically shot the rudder off. So now it can't steer and it had to stop.

• 29:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny?

• 29:05Speaker 03

  Um, I just, I, I really have a feeling, Ben, I think I, we said this months ago that this thing is going to keep going and keep going and keep going. Apparently the, the new, what's his name? Is it Chomenei?

• 29:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Abbas Al-Rachi or Chomenei?

• 29:20Speaker 03

  Chomenei.

• 29:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Is it Chomenei or Chomenei?

• 29:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Chomenei.

• 29:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Is it Chomenei or Chomenei?

• 29:25Speaker 03

  The son just met with somebody.

• 29:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Get our names right, guys.

• 29:27Speaker 03

  They know that he's meeting with people and he's sitting down with other people. It's, I mean, they tried to kill him once. I don't know why they're letting him live, but it seems like this is, this isn't going to go anywhere. But my gas, it keeps, I filled up my tank and it was over a hundred dollars and it's driving me nuts and I don't see this thing freaking ending because they're going to keep doing it. They're going to keep messing around. They're going to keep playing games and I don't see this thing ending soon and it's really driving me crazy.

• 29:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I have to be honest with you. I stopped following the day to day stories on Iran because if you, if you look in the, you put yourself in the average American's position, there's only one thing affecting us. Let's get real here, guys. It's gas prices. So I had to fill up my girlfriend's gas tank the other day. That's what you have to do when you're a man.

• 30:09Speaker 03

  Oh, oh no.

• 30:10Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what you have to do when you're a man. You fill up your girl's gas tank.

• 30:12Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 30:13Tom Ellsworth?

  And I said, how much does it usually cost to fill up your tank? She's like 40 bucks.

• 30:18Adam Sosnick?

  I filled up her gas tank, it was 50 bucks.

• 30:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 30:20Adam Sosnick?

  I said, how often do you fill up? She goes, uh, every couple of weeks. Alright, so this is $10. So the question you have to ask yourself, as you're an average American, is, is $10 every few weeks, as an example, worth taking down the most evil regime in the world right now? Ending the nuclear threat, ending any possible threat of attacks on America, attacks on our allies, attacks on our bases? That's really the question. And you have to answer it one of two ways. Listen, I get it, it's gonna cost me a couple of extra bucks. They've been talking about bringing down a death in America for decades. Trump actually did something about it. Check, yes. Or you know what? It ain't worth spending an extra penny on this. Stop this war. That's really the question.

• 31:00Adam Sosnick?

  So if you look at the polling, and this is my final point, it says 6 in 10 Americans disapprove of how Trump is handling uh, the war in Iran.

• 31:10Adam Sosnick?

  Correlation, 6 in 10 Americans disapprove of Trump. So if you don't like Trump, you're not gonna agree what's going on here. And if you approve of what Trump is doing, you're gonna agree with what's going on here. And this is what PBS, this article right here, I love how they word this, you have to be very careful, they go, and also understand that 1 in 5 Republicans doesn't approve of this. Oh, so you mean 80% of Republicans approve? Is that what you're trying to say? At the end of the day, the only thing that this is affecting your actual life, if you're not in the military, is gas prices. My assumption is gas prices will come down in the middle of summer, before the midterms, and everything will be okay. It's just a matter of time.

• 31:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so by the way, while this is taking place, Rob, what is the, oh, that's, we're good, we don't need to go through it, we just kinda addressed it. So while this is taking place, a C-135 has been missing for the last 2 days. And nobody knows where it's at. At any point, there could be a report being made, but US military plane goes missing near Qatar after distress signal. Okay, so if you wanna go a little bit lower, go a little bit lower. US military refueling aircraft has gone missing after radar systems tracked an emergency distress call as per fighter trader 24 data. The C-135 strato-tanker transmitted a 7700 distress signal over the Persian Gulf near Iran as per.

• 32:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Flight tracking platforms, the US military aircraft was headed towards Qatar at the time of the distress call. And then if you go a little bit lower, Rob, based on regional reports and Iran's Tasnim news agency, the C-135, also known as the Flying Gas Station, reportedly experienced an in-flight emergency over the Arabian Gulf of Strait of Hormuz region. The incident occurred when the aircraft was conducting refueling operations over the Gulf when it transmitted the distress signal. Tom, why is this important and what is the typical protocol for something like this? What is CENTCOM supposed to do that they're not doing right now?

• 33:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, this is not inside Iran. So if you call Iran the theater, right, Vinnie? Yes. The theater is the area of engagement where it's hot, dangerous, and you're engaging the battle or the war. Hot route. Outside of it, you have supply areas and you have adjacent areas, refueling areas, and then no-fly zones because you're there with aircraft carriers. The normal thing for CENTCOM would be, in this area, if they're doing refueling over Qatar, like our aircraft flying a really long way over Qatar, you refuel, go over Iran, drop your bombs, come back, but we're in the middle of a ceasefire, so they're supposedly not be firing.

• 33:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Normally CENTCOM would say, hey, we've had a mechanical failure and we're trying to identify and rescue the crew. That's the normal thing, would be CENTCOM to say, not over Iran, not a result of a shoot-down, not a result of anything, we have an issue and we are searching. And there were certain reports coming from Reuters that said that, over Qatar, that media in Qatar had noted helicopters dispatched to an area adjacent to the area where this aircraft was circling. So if you're out there with helicopters trying to do a rescue, why not tell the American people? If you're supposed to be so transparent and you said, hey, we had 11 lost and we had

• 34:21Tom Ellsworth?

  13 lost, now we see reports, maybe it's 15, terrible that we lose men, but that's a low number compared to what war can cause, why not just tell the American people what happened? Hey, we had a mechanical issue with one of our C-135 gas stations. I don't know. Understand and it's not over like you know the the hot area but it is over area where Iran has been.

• 34:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Why why wouldn't they so could it be didn't another C-135 crash last month and all crew members died? Iran Iran Iraq or something like that?

• 34:56Speaker 03

  Was that the one?

• 34:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do I feel like go to it?

• 34:58Speaker 03

  Was it helicopter?

• 34:59Patrick Bet-David?

  March 12th it was a crash in western Iraq during Operation Epic if you're killing all service members. Yeah, exact same thing. So this involved a mid-air collision with another US refueling tanker which managed to land safely. Safely and was not caused by hostile or friendly fire casualty six western Iraq. So but but they reported it.

• 35:17Tom Ellsworth?

  And look what they say on location, western Iraq within friendly airspace.

• 35:22Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is the same thing though, no?

• 35:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I would say.

• 35:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So so so it's either an accident which they could be reporting anytime. It could be a you know. Project that maybe they don't want to disclose because it is. Highly sensitive with the timing of it, but why is C-135 strato tanker that that? You wouldn't disclose that. It's not like it's a fighter. It's a so who knows? I don't know.

• 35:45Speaker 03

  What that looks like a strato tanker Rob?

• 35:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, if you just type in Rob case it it type in KC-135 strato tanker copy paste.

• 35:52Speaker 03

  Would it be because?

• 35:54Tom Ellsworth?

  It looks like a gray giant passenger airplane that drops a it drops a fuel probe off the back. That's the refueling jet and the and the fighters fly under it.

• 36:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's not a it's not a small plane. This is is it an optics thing? Is it a we don't want we don't want to report? That there's more dead Americans because it makes this thing look bad.

• 36:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh no, no, unfortunately, when stuff like this happens, you have to just tell the news immediately. You can't sit on it. So. The the typically when you get stories like this, what makes it even worse? Is when you delay it and there's a level of uncertainty. Come out, say what happened, say what didn't happen. Now, by the way. You know, we're sitting here talking about this. If the people that are on that, the family knows everything is fine. That's what matters the most. If something happened and that family doesn't know, imagine if your father, your husband, your brother, your son is on that thing. You're like, wait a minute. What the hell is going on? John hasn't responded back to me for two days. That's the part where it gets a little bit annoying. Uh that this is happening, but you know, at this point, all we're doing is talking about this.

• 36:55Patrick Bet-David?

  We're not going to speculate. We'll go to the next story. It is something that people are discussing. So I'll go to the next story here. Next story I want to get to is. Um, mayor race in LA keeps getting nastier and nastier and nastier. And what happened yesterday, which was interesting is Karen Bass. Spencer Pratt, there's some clips, Rob, if we got it, we gotta show it, but last night, uh, not last night, Karen Bass decided to go after the socialist candidate. And if you don't know anything about the socialist candidate, the socialist candidate, what is this lady's name? I, I, she's got one of those.

• 37:28Adam Sosnick?

  Nithya Raman.

• 37:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Nithya Raman, which is Hindi for steal your blind.

• 37:32Patrick Bet-David?

  So, Tom, you're so funny. So, Nithya, well, yeah. And these are, these are with the cameras on, so we have to, we, we struggle with Tom's. So you know what she said? Do you have the clip, Rob, of this lady? Who is running to be the mayor of LA? Said the reason why people are stealing the catalytic converter from the Prius, a Toyota product, is because Toyota made it so easy for them to steal the catalytic converter. It's not, it's not the thief's fault. It's Toyota's fault. Why did you make it so easy for me to steal? That's the one I think. Is that the case? Yeah, that is the one. And, and she gets booed if this is the clip that you have. Play the clip, Rob. We have a company, uh, you know, the Prius, whatever Toyota, who made the Prius.

• 38:17Patrick Bet-David?

  It's called Toyota, buddy. That essentially has a device on their cars, which is super easy to remove. Super easy to remove. Basically the value of a MacBook, right? That is put in a place that is incredibly easy to access in your car. That's BS. It's not. And then the vets related to this issue have essentially, all of the costs of that are given to us to bear instead of them having to manufacture a car. Are you hearing what she's saying?

• 38:43Adam Sosnick?

  She's blaming the company, not the thief. Completely dumb.

• 38:46Patrick Bet-David?

  But, by the way, it's like saying, Vinny, it's your fault on why your beautiful truck that you have outside, why the tires are on the outside, making it easy for somebody to steal.

• 39:00Adam Sosnick?

  You're right.

• 39:00Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not the thief's fault. You should have hidden those tires.

• 39:03Adam Sosnick?

  I'm an idiot.

• 39:04Patrick Bet-David?

  So somebody couldn't have taken those tires because common sense says, it's your fault, not the criminal.

• 39:09Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 39:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Shame on you, Vinny. You should be more responsible to not put those tires on the outside.

• 39:13Adam Sosnick?

  I'm gonna have them removed.

• 39:14Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, so that's happening.

• 39:15Adam Sosnick?

  The catalytic converter can only go on the outside. It goes on the.

• 39:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but but but the reality is so while this is taking place Karen Bass says uh cause Spencer Pratt keeps putting them together. They're friends. They're allies. They're a team. They're a team. They're a team. And he keeps saying that they're a team. They're a team, which by the way, I love the fact that he's doing that. He's trying to tell everybody that they're a team. Do you have that clip of him keep saying that? Okay, if you don't have that, Rob, just go to the one with Karen Bass going after her in the mayoral race. And we got a couple of other clips. We'll play with this. Spencer Pratt keeps coming up. By the way, you see the polls. He's not slowing down. Go ahead, Rob.

• 39:47Tom Ellsworth?

  First, I will go below the harbor freeway tomorrow with her and we can find some of these people she's gonna offer treatment for. She's gonna get stabbed in the neck. These people do not want a bed. They want fentanyl or supermen. These ideas cost us over $400 million to house. 70,000 people for 400 million is absolute failure for both of them. They're a team.

• 40:10Patrick Bet-David?

  They're a team. Keyword. They're a team. That's the keyword. They're a team. Good for you, Spencer. They're a team. They're a team. So now Karen Bass's team says, hey, you have to make sure they know we're not a team. We are very different than this socialist crazy nut job that here we're going up against. That's not what I would say. Her team probably said that. Can you go to the part where her and Karen Bass go at it, Tom? Do you have that one? Rob?

• 40:33Adam Sosnick?

  I'm looking.

• 40:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you don't have that, Rob? Did you?

• 40:36Adam Sosnick?

  No, I don't have it either. Rob's looking it up, but it was at this debate and Karen Bass popped up in the polls. There was a calci on it.

• 40:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you pull up the poll, Rob? Can you pull up the poll on the calci on the mayoral race? So watch this here. Green has been Karen Bass. This Ramon lady was the blue, the socialist, and then you got Spencer Pratt. Okay? And don't go to one week, Rob. Just go to December. Go to December and look where December Karen Bass is gonna win 72% right? Going to January. Now, watch what happens. Things change up, but Spencer Pratt is nowhere. The socialist comes up. Okay, spike. Oh, my God, you know, Spencer Pratt comes in. Then the social, I'm sorry, Spencer Pratt shows up first, then the socialist shows up. So the socialist got a lead, right? And look, her and Karen Bass are close. Even at some point, the socialist takes the lead. I prefer. And then what happens to him? Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, climbing up.

• 41:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And today, keep going, one more, one more. Look where it's at today. Come on. Spencer Pratt, 27.3. Socialist, 28.2. And Karen Bass, 47.2. Okay, and there was a lot of back and forth, Rob. I don't know what other clips we have on the back and forth. Things got heated. Things got heated between these two guys. Show the clips that we haven't shown yet, Rob. I know we showed a couple of clips the other day.

• 41:50Tom Ellsworth?

  This is the best one.

• 41:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 41:52Speaker 06

  A lot of people will talk about climate change and hurricane-force winds. The winds in the Pacific Palisades never reached higher than 40 miles per hour.

• 42:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Phenomenal.

• 42:01Speaker 06

  For those first six hours.

• 42:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Phenomenal, watch this, folks.

• 42:02Speaker 06

  Didn't go above 27 miles per hour. He talked about the winds, that is just completely inaccurate. If that were accurate, then the planes would have been able to fly. And so the winds reached close to 100 miles an hour, and the planes were unable to fly. So if there were reservoirs, if that reservoir had been open, it would not have worked.

• 42:23Tom Ellsworth?

  She's an incredible liar. Everyone on their phones, Google it. 40 weather stations in the Pacific Palisades, it never went above 40 miles per hour. She is referencing the Altadena fire. I have to interrupt you.

• 42:39Tom Ellsworth?

  No name-calling, please. Yeah, but no name-calling. She called me a liar. I don't believe she did. I did not hear that. I did not. And we're not going to debate the issue.

• 42:49Speaker 03

  The system is protect, like, the system, meaning her and the people, they, they're protecting them.

• 42:56Adam Sosnick?

  The reporter just grabbed a podium.

• 42:57Speaker 03

  Exactly, and it's like, what are you, like, I'll let them play the clip, Pat. Go ahead, Rob.

• 43:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Which one is this?

• 43:03Tom Ellsworth?

  This is where they're talking about fire trucks. I also have where they ask if non-citizens should be able to vote in local elections.

• 43:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my God, this is embarrassing. This is embarrassing. You're still on the mayoral race, right? Not the governor, go for it.

• 43:18Tom Ellsworth?

  This is a yes or no question, an answer. So there's an LA council member, he wants voters to decide. He is saying that non-citizens, should they be allowed to vote in local elections? Is this a yes or no, Mr. Pratt?

• 43:31Patrick Bet-David?

  They can't answer it. Watch this.

• 43:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Mayor Bass?

• 43:33Patrick Bet-David?

  It depends, it's not a yes. God.

• 43:35Adam Sosnick?

  Depends on what?

• 43:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, first of all, when you say non-citizens, it doesn't mean they're here illegal. It doesn't mean they're undocumented. They could have green cards. They could be here perfectly legal, and there's a lot of states and cities that do that on very, very local elections. We have to see what the councilman is proposing. Yes or no question, Karen.

• 43:54Speaker 02

  Again, it does depend. In other places, school boards have non-citizens.

• 44:00Adam Sosnick?

  Mr. Fred, I have a question for you. You told NBC News.

• 44:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so there you have it. So that's the back and forth taking place. I'm trying to find this where, Tom, you were saying, what was the clip where she went after the other mayor, Tom?

• 44:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, this is where Bass tries to draw a line between herself and Nithya. And it says, I have been leading this, and I have been doing this, and that's what you're saying is not what I'm doing. And so she draws a very clear line because she has to, because it's an open, it's an open election. So she has to draw this line.

• 44:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I know, but you said, did you?

• 44:37Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't, I don't have the clip in front of me. I saw the-

• 44:39Patrick Bet-David?

  What story was it in when you read it?

• 44:40Tom Ellsworth?

  It was, it was an ex reference saying, hey, Karen Bass goes after her. I don't have it here.

• 44:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Karen Bass goes after, is it Nithya?

• 44:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 44:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And Rob, you couldn't find anything?

• 44:51Adam Sosnick?

  Not yet.

• 44:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Adam, your thoughts?

• 44:53Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, if you would have told me years ago that the reality TV star known as Spidey, Spencer and Heidi, I'd be rooting for him to become the mayor of LA. I'd be like, you're absolutely nuts. But welcome to 2026, when just being normal is a competitive advantage against the leftist lunatics that exist in LA. So I think it's fair to say we're rooting for Spencer Pratt. I think he's done a great job marketing. He's kind of like a mini Trump of LA. He knows the reality. He knows, he knows TV. He knows how to work a camera. And he's just normal. When you said the socialist candidate, I automatically thought of Karen Bass, the Marxist, communist socialist lover that goes to, does her trips in Cuba and goes to Uganda

• 45:38Adam Sosnick?

  or whatever. But, oh, hold my beer. We got an even more socialist, progressive candidate. But here's my concern because right now Karen Bass, I think has, if you're according to Cal, if you want to pull that up, 45% chance, chances, right? The way that it works, and I think we're about a month away from the primary election. I think it's June 2nd. And if no one has over 50%, it will go to a runoff. So I think we're hoping for a runoff. If no candidate has 50%, it will go, the top two advance to a runoff. So I'm hoping, I think we're all hoping anyone that wants LA to just have an semblance of normal and not just crumble, is that Spencer Pratt and one of these candidates go to

• 46:20Adam Sosnick?

  a runoff and may the best man or woman, or he, she, or they, them win. But I think it's fair to say that Spencer Pratt, who was a reality TV star villain, is now darling of common sense in LA.

• 46:34Speaker 02

  This episode is brought to you by Indeed. You're ready to level up your business, but the pressure to find the right person to make that happen is intense. Indeed sponsored jobs can help carry the load. It boosts your job post to help it reach quality talent fast. Cut through the chaos with Indeed sponsored jobs. Get a $75 sponsored job credit at indeed.com/podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Hiring now? Then this is a job for Indeed sponsored jobs.

• 47:04Speaker 04

  When you spend enough time around great companies, you notice that the best ones treat trust as a growth strategy, not a box to check. Vanta helps companies build and prove trust from day one. Its Agentic Trust Platform connects compliance, risk, and trust at enterprise scale. Vanta delivers a 526% return on investment over three years and pays for itself in just three months. Learn why over 16,000 of the fastest growing companies use Vanta at vanta.com. Now at Kroger, your points add up to more ways to save every trip. Use them your way to take dollars off grocery Save at checkout or save at the pump. You can even save up to $35 on your next fill-up. Same points, more choices.

• 47:49Speaker 04

  And with low prices on fresh, quality food, plus digital and personalized offers tailored to how you shop, your dollar goes further. Redeem your points online or in the app. Kroger, fresh for everyone. Restrictions apply. See site or store for details.

• 48:05Speaker 07

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians' health care to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the House Majority PAC dot com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

• 48:34Adam Sosnick?

  USAA knows dynamic duos can save the day, like superheroes and sidekicks, or auto and home insurance. With USAA, you can bundle your auto and home and save up to 10%. Tap the banner to learn more and get a quote at USAA dot com slash bundle. Restrictions apply.

• 48:49Speaker 03

  But I don't, I don't, I get, I don't understand the disconnect of people. Like, don't you want change? Don't you want, I don't care. In LA? In Los, LA. But hold on, what I'm saying is, Adam, because if you look at that. They want that. That's, those are two, the ex, the current mayor, right? Karen Basura. Kevin Basura and the other chick. Basically can't answer yes or no, meaning illegal. That's, it comes down to illegal. Do you want people that are here illegally to vote? They have to pander to their audience. She can't say no. Spencer, he said it, no. And they went on diatribes, both of them, okay? But I want the people in LA to understand, this guy, I'm telling you right now, you're going to stick with the same people, going to get the same trash, the same homeless,

• 49:34Speaker 03

  the same tax, the same policies that are going to make you unsafe. I don't understand why the people don't wake up, okay? Get the message, okay? Go outside, go out night, go try to walk in Hollywood. Go, go, go try to go in these neighborhoods that you think are safe with your freaking kids. It's not happening.

• 49:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, I think we found her, Rob. Go for it. I think we found. This is the clip of them going at it. Watch this. You want to turn on the audio? There you go. Go for it.

• 49:56Speaker 04

  I wanted to ask you because I just don't understand your position around encampments. Because you vote over and over and over again to take tools away from people who are trying to remove encampments, especially near schools. It is completely unacceptable for there to be encampments near schools. And you know that I don't feel you have to call out the police to arrest everybody. But you vote against it every single time. I've, no, I'll say it again. I already said it once.

• 50:33Patrick Bet-David?

  She was booed nine times, apparently.

• 50:34Speaker 04

  I, I don't think 4118 keeps us safe enough. I think if we want to actually address encampments, I think if we actually had an honest response to people about how we actually address an encampment in a park or in a school, we would design a policy where we were actually targeting housing resources to those places, to sensitive areas first, because that's how you actually move people off the street. She's describing inside safe. No, that, that's, that's what, and I have a policy today that I release that designs a system for Los Angeles that will, that will address every single tent and encampment on our streets by the end of my first term by doing exactly this, by building a system,

• 51:17Speaker 04

  not, not an incredibly expensive.

• 51:21Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. I'm bored out of my mind. I'm bored because. I mean, one is, one is trying to top the other one as a socialist and the other one is, you know, with her failed policies and then, so.

• 51:33Tom Ellsworth?

  But it moved Kalshi.

• 51:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what, yeah, it did move Kalshi. She came back, what, what are the chances Spencer Pratt wins? Tom, what are the chances Pratt wins?

• 51:42Tom Ellsworth?

  I think the chance, right now I've got him probably about a 30% chance. That's about all I got.

• 51:48Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're exactly where Kalshi's at. Kalshi's at 27.

• 51:50Tom Ellsworth?

  But I think, I think it's growing because I think every time the public sees this and they see the two of them, by the way, Soha, I lived in Sherman Oaks, right off Sepulveda Boulevard at Delgado, and I went to these meetings. I never joined, they wanted 50 bucks a year or something, but I never joined Soha, not Soho, that's something else. This is Sherman Oaks Homeowners Association. It said they, they're out there to promote the needs of the community, and some of the things were okay, but most of the time they were lunatics. And so these two, you know, mayor candidates are there with, you know, actually getting booed. If you're getting booed at Soha, Sherman Oaks Homeowners Association, you really have to go a long way, because

• 52:30Tom Ellsworth?

  they were kind of this liberal, kind of weird folks, little bit of NIMBY. But right now, every time they do this, Pat, I think they're pulling each, there are two things are happening. I think Nithya is looking more like, wow, that's more of a lunatic than I think I want to vote for. Maybe I'll just vote for Karen Bass again. I think that's happening. And then I think the people in the middle, the little people in the middle, independents are going, now wait a minute, I don't think I want either one of these two jackasses. I'm gonna vote for Spencer.

• 53:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, hopefully, that's the, by the way, I don't know if they're jackass, but I do know they're socialists and qualified.

• 53:07Tom Ellsworth?

  There's a difference on weight.

• 53:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, no, no, I mean, no, I get what you're saying, and I understand, trust me, these are not types of people that we would want to go campaign for. And, and the part about Spencer Pratt that I'm loving, he has an element of Trump, he's fearless, he's pushing the envelope, he's a great marketer, he understands camera. You know what pattern you're starting to notice? Here's what pattern you're starting to notice. If you, if you don't get trained on camera, and marketing, and videos going viral, all of that stuff, let me tell you, moving forward, that's how to campaign.

• 53:42Tom Ellsworth?

  For sure.

• 53:42Patrick Bet-David?

  If you don't know how to do that, that's, that's, that's, and you got.

• 53:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Camera ready.

• 53:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you gotta be camera ready, you gotta know how to make the content go viral. Looks like both of you guys want to say something.

• 53:50Speaker 03

  Because I'm, this will take me less than 30 seconds, and Pat, the guy's been.

• 53:54Tom Ellsworth?

  What's your point? Go.

• 53:54Speaker 03

  The guy's been affected. His house burned down to the ground because of their lying and their policies. He's pissed off. He's for the people, he's one of them. He's not some socialist that goes to freaking Cuba like you said.

• 54:06Tom Ellsworth?

  And then their other policies won't let him rebuild it.

• 54:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly. And this whole homelessness, the encampments, you know, if they want. To solve homelessness in California, just lie and say Xi Jinping is coming to an area and they all disappear. Just like they did in San Francisco. That's the key to get rid of.

• 54:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Take a bus to Sacramento for a one week tour.

• 54:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly.

• 54:22Tom Ellsworth?

  And they come back.

• 54:23Adam Sosnick?

  Vinny's absolutely right, and I'll just add this. This whole conversation about homelessness, encampments and houses burning down, it's the bigger conversation. The story behind the story behind the story is the affordability crisis in big blue cities. Do you know of the top 10 most expensive cities for homeowners in the United States? Nine are in California. The number one most expensive city.

• 54:46Patrick Bet-David?

  San Jose.

• 54:47Adam Sosnick?

  Is San Jose.

• 54:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Number one.

• 54:48Adam Sosnick?

  Right out of San Francisco. So number two is San Francisco. Number three is Santa Cruz. Number four is Santa Maria. Number five is Los Angeles, which we're talking about the LA mayoral race. You have San Diego, you have San Luis Obismo, you have Oxnard, you have Salinas. And the number 10 on this list is Honolulu, Hawaii. So not the top nine most expensive cities to live in as a homeowner in the United States of America is in California. I'll ask you this. Is it because of their tax policies and their bad policies? Or is it because the cost of living is just what it is in America? I would argue that these cities are downstream of the horrible policies that we've seen of California.

• 55:30Adam Sosnick?

  So is it a coincidence that California has the most expensive cities in America? I don't think so.

• 55:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, look, at the end of the day, I'm gonna keep repeating this over and over and over again until people realize the level of confidence you need to have because socialists and communists are gonna get destroyed the next decade or two. And all because of one reason, because you can no longer bully people that have intangible assets, no longer. Cryptos caused intangible assets. AI has done that. The stock market with technology. The internet did that for a bunch of people. You want to bully us? We can move anywhere. Anybody is willing to take, you know, like I said, CZ said he's got 5,000 employees in 100 plus countries. Go ahead, you know, at Binance, 5,000 employees in 100 plus countries. What are you gonna do? I can go live anywhere. So this is the dumbest model today. The only people it hurts is the people that have tangible assets who cannot move.

• 56:20Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's the low and middle income families that's gonna get destroyed every time they do this. Let me get to the next story here. Next story I want to get to is Obama. So Obama's on a tour doing all these podcasts and he calls for clear ethical standards. For presidents in the Oval Office. Well, what are you talking about? Clear ethical standards at the Oval Office. Here's President Obama. Go ahead, Rob.

• 56:44Speaker 04

  So restoring some sense of the Justice Department being independent in making judgments about specific cases and prosecutions. Now, I would consult with Eric Holder, with my Attorney General, all the time around broad policy issues. But that's different than who do you charge? What case do you bring? Second thing is the military. Don't politicize our military. As President, you are commander in chief. You are responsible for directing our military. But there had been a whole series of norms that were in place to ensure that you weren't trying to make that military loyal to you as opposed to the Constitution and the people

• 57:28Speaker 04

  of the United States. We're gonna have to find mechanisms to restore that. And then, you know, a good policy that I'd like to see followed is that the President of the United States shouldn't have a bunch of side hustles that

• 57:47Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, really?

• 57:48Speaker 04

  Those companies and foreign entities can invest in. How much of that is just jealous that you didn't think of selling a sneaker? Because your sneakers were flown. You know that, right? You would have banked coin.

• 58:03Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is one of the clips that goes on with him. And I think there's another one also with Michelle. It almost seems like they're on a tour, each one of them. But Adam, I'll come to you with this one and I'll go to the next one.

• 58:13Adam Sosnick?

  Look, Obama, if you just judge Obama on the surface of Obama, man, is he smooth. He's a great communicator. He seems very relatable. And I firmly believe that he tricked all of us. And a lot of us fell for it because a lot of us voted for Obama twice. I'll tell you, I don't know, Rob, if you can pull up the picture I just sent you. I'll tell you the scariest picture that I can possibly think of is this picture right here. This is the future of the Democratic Party. And, you know, Obama talked about, I don't know if we're gonna cover this, that Trump is ruining his marriage. The real reason is because, at the end of the day, if you look at politics for the last 20 years, there's two names. You have Obama and you have Trump. And everything is downstream of Obama and the Democratic Party and everything is downstream of Trump in the Republican Party.

• 58:58Adam Sosnick?

  And I'll ask you this. Behavior wise, the way that you act, the way that you communicate, I totally understand why people empathize with Obama. He's a very smooth, swathed character. But my biggest fear is that the Democratic Party has gone full-blown socialist. And you have Obama endorsing Mamdani.

• 59:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I hope that's the case.

• 59:17Adam Sosnick?

  But that is...

• 59:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I hope that's the case.

• 59:18Adam Sosnick?

  I know you're saying you hope, that is the case. Look at that picture.

• 59:21Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, play the clip. Play the clip here praising Mamdani. Go ahead, Rob. Watch. I hope that's the case. I hope they go full-on socialist.

• 59:28Adam Sosnick?

  It's already there.

• 59:29Speaker 04

  You have people like Abigail Spanberger and Mikey Sherrill, very centrist. But then you have further left like AOC or Zora and Mamdani.

• 59:38Adam Sosnick?

  Look at that cheer from Mamdani.

• 59:39Speaker 04

  For this party to actually achieve, um, change.

• 59:44Speaker 06

  I'm not as worried about this so-called rift between the left and liberals as you describe it. You look at somebody like Mamdani, who I think is an extraordinary talent.

• 59:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Mamdani?

• 59:56Speaker 06

  He wants people to be able to afford housing in New York. Well, you know, uh, I would assume liberals in New York want the same thing. And so I don't worry as much. What I'm more interested in for Democrats is, do you know how to just talk to regular people like we're not in a college seminar?

• 1:00:18Speaker 04

  I think that's one of the powers that Mamdani has.

• 1:00:21Speaker 06

  That's correct.

• 1:00:21Speaker 04

  Is that he also, not only does he talk like a normal person, but he lives a normal life.

• 1:00:25Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:25Speaker 04

  He also, he names what is obviously wrong.

• 1:00:28Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:00:29Speaker 04

  And he goes, "We should change that thing."

• 1:00:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So you can pause that right there. But, but, oh, by the way, I hope they go this direction. Me too. I hope they, I'm telling you, the biggest edge any candidate has to be able to explain the tangible, intangible assets. I'm gonna keep repeating this until the right people, until you, when you start seeing presidents, gubernatorial candidates start explaining it this way. They're gonna realize, let these socialists try to bully all they want. You're, the, the biggest thing will happen, Vinnie, with this idea is the following. Here's what's gonna happen. The disparity, like the whole John Galt, Atlas Shrugged concept, you're gonna see become a reality. States are gonna attract business owners and job creators and investors and money. And the other states that want entitlement programs are gonna go to those states.

• 1:01:16Patrick Bet-David?

  That's gonna be happening. And, you know, wh- while they're having this conversation, maybe we can go to the clip about him saying that, uh, you know, Trump was ruining his marriage. I don't know if you have that clip. Can you imagine a president saying that another president is ruining your marriage? Of course, he's saying it in a comical way. Rob, if you have that, if you wanna play that clip, there's-

• 1:01:36Adam Sosnick?

  I think it's an article, right, Rob? Yeah, it was a print-

• 1:01:37Patrick Bet-David?

  New Yorker, right? That's the New Yorker, if you wanna pull that up. Uh, i- if you don't have it, I'll just read it here myself. It's on page four, uh, that says, you know, she wants, uh, uh, Don, okay. The New York interview with Obama published Monday shared how their marriage was affected by Barack's continued involvement in politics. The former president pointed to President Donald Trump as a reason for his involvement. She wants to see her husband easing up and spending more time with her, enjoying what remains of our lives. Obama said, adding that the pressure remains to be politically active against Trump's administration despite the precedent of past presidents retiring out of politics altogether. It does create a genuine tension in our household and it frustrates her. Uh, and he continues, Obama said he does his best to accommodate her, but noted he understands

• 1:02:21Patrick Bet-David?

  why people are looking to him despite the fact that no other ex-president was the main surrogate for the party for four election cycles after they left office. Michelle struggled through her time as first lady, saying on her The Light podcast that upon leaving Trump's first inauguration, she was uncontrollably sobbing for half an hour on Air Force One-

• 1:02:42Speaker 03

  Uncontrollable-

• 1:02:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Which it was a privilege to serve, but it was hard and it was hard on our family. It was hard on my daughters growing up in the spotlight. So, you know, you hear a comment like that, Tom, how do you process that, coming from the president?

• 1:02:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, look, there's a couple of things going on here, and this is how I processed it. Number one, he's in the news right now, not because he wants to be, but he's taking advantage of it. He's on tour and he's inviting people like Colbert to come on and interview him because they're in the midst of the ramp up to the grand, grand, grand opening of the Presidential Library. Presidential Library, which was run, just like his presidency, with incredible cost overruns and delays. So, he's got the library coming up. So, he's coming out at a time with, coming up, and now the environment out there, Pat, it's kind of safe for him to speak. He has been hiding kind of in the bushes a little bit because he took an L in 2024. His influence, and I'm not being critical, I'm being statistical,

• 1:03:39Tom Ellsworth?

  his influence did not move to victory in 2024. He did not have the mojo of Obama, you know, back in 08 and 12. He didn't have it. And so, now he's coming out in these softball interviews to open, and they want to go in there because they want, people like Colbert want Obama to speak. And so, he does these skillful, structured, going around the edges and things, and then you look at these softball interviews in magazines like that, it created genuine tension in our household. Well, of course, there was tension in the household. You want your side to win, you want to put socialism forward, everybody's upset. That's not Trump's fault, it's because you were in the middle of taking an L. That's how I

• 1:04:21Tom Ellsworth?

  process it. I don't think Obama wanted to be out right now, but he's taking advantage of the climate around to say some things, because this is, all his appearances are being driven by the opening of the library.

• 1:04:31Speaker 03

  Benny? Listen, maybe, but maybe he's blaming Trump for his marital problems and the reason he's not around Michelle. Maybe that's true. Maybe the real reason he's all obsessed with Trump is because he knows Trump's DOJ finally has everything that they need. Everything that he knows that he spied and directed the freaking CIA, the DOJ, Brennan, Comey, all these snakes to go, and maybe now, maybe that's what it is. Or maybe it's a combination of other things.

• 1:04:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Or both.

• 1:04:59Speaker 03

  Or maybe the tension at home, Tom, he doesn't want to be home. Maybe it's had something to do with the letters that Obama wrote to his college girlfriend, Pat Obama. How he, you know, fantasize about men. Or maybe, no, I'm being, Tom, what? Hold on a second, let's be honest. In 1999, Larry Sinclair passed multiple lie detector tests, saying that when he was an Illinois senator, him and Obama would do drugs and they would hook up. Maybe, maybe that's what the tension is about, Tom. Or maybe, oh, Michelle is mad because Obama, if, if it wasn't for Obama, who would Michelle Obama be? Okay, remember Claire Underwood from House of Cards? Okay, she was livid, livid and hated the fact that he even said, "You'd be nothing without me." Okay, or maybe it's the power, the media protection, the careful crafting of these public images, and the marriage is exhausting. It's exhausting, but I think there's a bunch of different elements, Tom.

• 1:05:44Speaker 03

  I don't think, I don't believe in the just whole, oh, the marriage is falling apart because of Trump. I think there's a bunch of different layers that are involved, and Obama and that whole power, it's done.

• 1:05:54Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I respect that, but I also think that your legacy is on the line. You're opening your library, and I think it's hitting him a little bit.

• 1:06:01Adam Sosnick?

  I think, I'm with, I'm with Tom on this. As much as I'd like to go down the rumor mill with you.

• 1:06:05Speaker 03

  It's not a rumor mill, it's, it's fact.

• 1:06:07Adam Sosnick?

  I think, I think, I'll ask you this. You think Trump is competitive?

• 1:06:12Speaker 02

  This episode is brought to you by Indeed. You're ready to level up your business, but the pressure to find the right person to make that happen is intense. Indeed sponsored jobs can help carry the load. It boosts your job post to help it reach quality talent fast. Cut through the chaos with Indeed sponsored jobs. Get a $75 sponsored job credit at indeed.com/podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Hiring now? Then this is a job for Indeed sponsored jobs.

• 1:06:42Patrick Bet-David?

  When you're building a company, you learn that trust is what closes deals. You may have the best product, but buyers won't sign without proof that your product is secure, especially if it has AI. Vanta gets you compliant fast with SOC 2, ISO 27001 and more, and keeps you secure with continuous monitoring. Hyperbound, a YC backed startup, used Vanta to unlock the Fortune 100 in under a year. Snowfire got audit ready in a month and closed a multimillion dollar deal. Trust matters. Get started at vanta.com.

• 1:07:10Speaker 04

  Now at Kroger, your points add up to more ways to save every trip. Use them your way to take dollars off groceries at checkout or save at the pump. You can even save up to $35 on your next fill up. Same points, more choices. And with low prices on fresh, quality food, plus digital and personalized options.

• 1:07:29Speaker 07

  Offers tailored to how you shop, your dollar goes further. Redeem your points online or in the app. Kroger, fresh for everyone. Restrictions apply. See site or store for details. Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians' health care to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the House Majority PAC dot com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

• 1:08:09Speaker 03

  How many discounts does USAA Auto Insurance offer? Too many to say here. Multi-vehicle discount, safe driver discount, uh, new vehicle discount, storage discount.

• 1:08:18Speaker 06

  How many discounts will you stack up? Tap the banner or visit usaa.com slash auto discounts. Restrictions apply.

• 1:08:26Speaker 03

  Absolutely. What do you mean? One of the biggest.

• 1:08:28Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, we're on the same page.

• 1:08:30Tom Ellsworth?

  He's an 11.

• 1:08:30Adam Sosnick?

  You think Obama's competitive?

• 1:08:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Absolutely.

• 1:08:34Adam Sosnick?

  Absolutely, right?

• 1:08:35Speaker 03

  For sure.

• 1:08:35Adam Sosnick?

  So I think there's, again, there's two competing legacies here for the soul of America, you know? Biden would be like, we're competing for the soul of America. Biden, you stepped in and filled in the blanks for a couple of minutes. This comes down to Obama's legacy versus Trump's legacy. And this is the first year that we're going to have in 2028, the first election where a Trump isn't on the ballot and Obama and Obama de facto isn't on the ballot, whether it's Biden, whether it's Kamala. And I think that you have, you know, they say, what's the famous phrase, for those that can't do, teach? I think Obama is looking at the field and saying, I can't run anymore. That's not my thing anymore. Trump can't run anymore.

• 1:09:18Adam Sosnick?

  I'm going to coach and train and, dare I say, groom the next socialist, Democrat socialist of America to become the next potential president of America. I think Obama is going to be very, very involved in politics and he's going to be behind the scenes. He's going to be in front of the camera. He's going to do everything he's got to do at the expense of whatever his relationship with.

• 1:09:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Michelle Obama, and I'll conclude with this, we can finally say this, and I've said this a million times before, and I'll say it again, Michelle Obama's not running, she's a marginal podcaster at this point, and her and Barack are gonna publicly feud on camera, cuz he's never home, cuz all he's gonna be doing is sitting there, doing spring training with the M'Adonis of the world, coaching the next democratic socialist of America. That's Obama's new world.

• 1:10:03Speaker 03

  I don't think Obama's, Obama is finished. We saw during the 2024 election, Adam, he has nothing. He was standing in front of young black men saying, if you, you guys have to vote for her because we're black, like, what are you doing? Okay, and they-

• 1:10:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, it was eight guys at a deli, and two of them ripped into him.

• 1:10:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly. And, and let me finish, Adam. That, that Obama factor, that change in Amer- it's over. It's done. And I don't care what socialist, whatever he gets behind, Adam, I think people are fed up with saying, hey, listen, you have to vote a certain way because you look a certain way. Policies, people want to see what is actually happening. There is zero comparison to what Trump has done in his freaking two terms than what Obama did. What, if you can name what, name one thing that Obama changed-

• 1:10:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, he made America gay.

• 1:10:50Speaker 03

  Well, I, I, listen, say what you want, I believe-

• 1:10:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Before you guys go there, before you guys go there, I, I, I'm not sure I'm completely in agreement, Vinny, and there's something that Adam said, if you look at-

• 1:11:00Adam Sosnick?

  You know you got a problem with me and Tom ganging up on you, bud.

• 1:11:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Because, no, no, no, I'm not ganging up on you, I'm making a point. I'm not, I'm not doing that. So don't, don't say I'm your, your guy in the middle of your fight.

• 1:11:08Adam Sosnick?

  You're my guy, Tom.

• 1:11:09Speaker 03

  I don't wanna hear this.

• 1:11:09Tom Ellsworth?

  People, people like Amy Acton, running for governor in Ohio, look at what she said. Look at the quotes that she made this past week. They sound like Obama. Do I think Obama's in the background there on some place like, you know, Ohio governor? I do. I think, so I think Adam's right about that. Do you think Obama's fingerprints, she practically quoted Obama. I think he's still out there, and I think he's influencing.

• 1:11:32Adam Sosnick?

  Let me know if you agree with this, Pat. I, I don't think Obama has the cachet to get out there and be like, do this, do this, do this. But behind the scenes, you don't think he's coaching the, all these guys? What do you think?

• 1:11:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Absolutely, he's doing that. Absolutely, he's doing that. Now, listen, you know, when you, when you blame a highly competitive, like, if you think about bodybuilders, the moment they retire, Mr. Olympia champions, they go through a divorce.

• 1:11:56Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, really?

• 1:11:57Patrick Bet-David?

  For whatever reason, yeah. Basketball players, the, the great ones, typically after they play a long time and they retire, they go through a divorce. Typically. It's a very common pattern, happens in NFL. Happens in basketball, happens to anybody that's a psycho competitor that plays at the highest level of competition. Now, for Obama, unlike Trump, Obama became a president in his 40s. So, when you become a president in your 40s, Obama still looks good. I don't know how old Obama is. He's still a good-looking guy. So-

• 1:12:27Adam Sosnick?

  I think he probably turned 60 recently.

• 1:12:28Patrick Bet-David?

  He's probably gotta be mid-60s.

• 1:12:29Adam Sosnick?

  64, wow.

• 1:12:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, mid-60s, yeah.

• 1:12:31Adam Sosnick?

  About to collect social security.

• 1:12:32Patrick Bet-David?

  So, a good-looking guy-

• 1:12:34Adam Sosnick?

  A lot of guys from their early 60s take good care of themselves.

• 1:12:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:36Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, you and him are the same age.

• 1:12:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Good-looking guy, you're right, he's-

• 1:12:39Adam Sosnick?

  You're Obama.

• 1:12:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, he's got stuff that he's going for himself. So, mid-60s, he's sitting like, Trump is what? Trump is-

• 1:12:46Adam Sosnick?

  Trump's about 79.

• 1:12:47Patrick Bet-David?

  79, about to be 80. So, I don't know. I don't know about saying it's Trump's pressure, all this other stuff. No, your enemies are gonna be there. How you handle the enemy is gonna be on you. It's not gonna be on, my marriage is having problems because the next guy's kicking my ass and he keeps talking shit about me. As if you didn't go for the first two, three years saying, "I inherited a George Bush administration. I inherited..." If you go back and ask the question, how many times did Obama use the word "I inherited"?

• 1:13:14Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah, of course.

• 1:13:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Everything that I have. I mean, that was his line that he kept doing, right?

• 1:13:18Adam Sosnick?

  Of course, he kinda did, though.

• 1:13:19Patrick Bet-David?

  And unlike, unlike anybody else, unlike anybody else, you know what George Bush did? What did he say? Nothing.

• 1:13:25Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, he's kept it-

• 1:13:26Patrick Bet-David?

  He never came out and said anything about the next guy that was president. What has Obama done? All he's ever done is come out and call this guy. So, I don't know.

• 1:13:34Adam Sosnick?

  Well, that's also because George W. Bush should've kept low because he was probably the worst president we've had in the last 40 years.

• 1:13:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if I would put him as the worst president we've had the last 40 years.

• 1:13:41Adam Sosnick?

  George W. Bush? Him and Biden, neck and neck.

• 1:13:44Patrick Bet-David?

  There's no way. It's gonna be, it's gonna be Carter and Biden, neck and neck.

• 1:13:47Adam Sosnick?

  I said in the last 40 years.

• 1:13:48Patrick Bet-David?

  What would you put Carter? Carter was what?

• 1:13:50Adam Sosnick?

  I wasn't alive during Carter, so I don't remember what he did.

• 1:13:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Carter, I think Carter's late 70s, okay.

• 1:13:54Adam Sosnick?

  I'm an 80s baby.

• 1:13:55Patrick Bet-David?

  What year were you born?

• 1:13:56Adam Sosnick?

  80.

• 1:13:57Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you're not. You're 79.

• 1:13:58Adam Sosnick?

  I'm 1980, sir.

• 1:13:59Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you're not.

• 1:14:00Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, what do you wanna, what do you wanna do?

• 1:14:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You're really 80 or you're 70?

• 1:14:03Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, I'm 1980.

• 1:14:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You're 1980?

• 1:14:05Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:14:06Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're how old right now, 46?

• 1:14:07Adam Sosnick?

  I'm 40.

• 1:14:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, okay.

• 1:14:08Adam Sosnick?

  I went to high school with Carter. I knew he was gonna be that. Yeah, exactly. You grew up with Jimmy Carter.

• 1:14:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, going back to it, right there.

• 1:14:14Adam Sosnick?

  Jimmy Carter was horrible, of course.

• 1:14:15Patrick Bet-David?

  77 to 81, top two worst presidents. It's not even close. It's gonna be Biden and Carter.

• 1:14:19Adam Sosnick?

  I'm with you on that, no doubt.

• 1:14:19Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's get to the next story. Next story I want to get to is, um, let's see which one we should go to. Let me go to Lutnick-Epstein, okay? Lutnick-Epstein, there was this moment they had together where they went, and I'll read what James Comer said. James Comer hits Lutnick ahead of Epstein testimony, saying he wasn't 100% truthful about the island visit. Is this it, Rob?

• 1:14:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, sir.

• 1:14:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:14:42Speaker 06

  Secretary Lutnick's credibility undermined here for having said publicly he cut ties with 2005. And then Epstein files show that as recently as 2018, he was in email correspondence with Epstein.

• 1:14:54Speaker 04

  What I've seen, we're gonna ask him all these questions and we'll let the American people judge whether the credibility was damaged or not. At the end of the day, I haven't seen wrongdoing in the email correspondence, but he wasn't 100% truthful with whether he or not he had been on the island. So we'll see and we'll obviously release the transcripts and everyone can see for themselves.

• 1:15:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so Rob, what did we learn from the sit-down that Lutnick had? Because we're hearing a lot of different things coming out. Hey, you know, it's not good. We have to do it. Now we have to do it with a recording on, so we can do all that stuff. Is this Rokano who was in the meeting as well?

• 1:15:38Tom Ellsworth?

  It is. This is post the meeting. So the meeting was not filmed, which is typical for, according to James Comer, whenever somebody volunteers to come into a meeting like this, like Howard Lutnick did, they don't film those. Now Democrats are saying that they want a filmed testimony from Lutnick because this one was not filmed.

• 1:15:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see it.

• 1:15:58Speaker 03

  Now we know why that interview was not videotaped. If Donald Trump had seen the video transcript, he would have fired Howard Lutnick. It was really embarrassing.

• 1:16:13Speaker 03

  He was asked very straightforward questions about whether he regretted misleading the American people. I mean, he said that he would never see Epstein again in 2005. And everyone knows that he took his wife and kids to see Epstein in 2012. And yet, it was just contortions and lies and no acknowledgement that he misled the American public. And if you saw the exchanges that my colleagues had with him, you would see he made a farce of the English language. I mean, he was trying to define "I" as if...

• 1:16:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Can pause it right there. Rob, what else do we know? What else do we know on what was said by people that came out? What else do we know on what's been said about this? Because there was a lot of talks. Who's this one?

• 1:17:04Tom Ellsworth?

  This is Yasmin. Her name is Yasmin... I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

• 1:17:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm sorry.

• 1:17:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep. She's from a Republican... I'm sorry, Democrat from the state of Arizona. She claims that after yesterday's hearing, Howard Lutnick has proved himself to be a pathological liar.

• 1:17:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see this.

• 1:17:22Speaker 06

  After what we have seen so far in this transcribed interview, I feel very comfortable saying that Howard Lutnick is a pathological liar who is enabling the most egregious cover-up in American history. We have now gone through the timeline of events with him in detail, in excruciating detail, from when they met in 2005. This is Howard Lutnick and his wife meeting Jeffrey Epstein. He described it himself in great detail on a podcast last year where he said that they went to his home, they took a tour, and allegedly were so uncomfortable after seeing the massage tables in Jeffrey Epstein's home that Howard Lutnick went on on this podcast to tell the

• 1:18:05Speaker 06

  American people that he himself, and my colleagues referenced the definitions he tried to change of what he meant there. But he said that he would never socially or professionally be involved or be in a room with Jeffrey Epstein again. Then in 2000... 12, he took his family and staff.

• 1:18:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So Vinny, what do you think's going on here? Where are you at?

• 1:18:27Speaker 03

  I'm just, well, for people that are, if they could hear that, there's an airplane trying to take off behind us.

• 1:18:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, yesterday's was an F- who was yesterday?

• 1:18:34Speaker 03

  Blue Angels.

• 1:18:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Blue Angels was here.

• 1:18:35Speaker 03

  Blue Angels.

• 1:18:36Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, if you were here, it was the sickest view because you saw it take off, the sound, the building shaking, it was great.

• 1:18:42Adam Sosnick?

  And yeah, and where are these planes going, Vinny?

• 1:18:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't.

• 1:18:45Adam Sosnick?

  What island?

• 1:18:45Speaker 03

  I don't.

• 1:18:48Speaker 03

  It's weird that we're talking about Epstein and now.

• 1:18:50Adam Sosnick?

  It's weird that all the noise is coming when we want to talk about Epstein.

• 1:18:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, weird.

• 1:18:53Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll tell you what's going on, I think Key West. I think Key West is two weeks away from having a nuclear weapon.

• 1:18:59Adam Sosnick?

  That's what it is.

• 1:18:59Tom Ellsworth?

  And the fact that Miami is defending itself, I think, is completely in bounds.

• 1:19:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 1:19:03Speaker 03

  I think it, I think it's a horrible, horrible look and, you know, love her or hate her, whatever. Marjorie Taylor Greene came out, I think, two or three days ago, Pat, and she was saying the main reasons when she met with the president and this whole situation was happening. And she's like, Mr. President, why won't you release it? This is her statements. She, he said, uh, it's because, you know, he has people that he knows that are involved and that are on this list. And guess what? Case in point, Howard Lutnick. And this is a horrible look. You lied to the American people as if we weren't going to find out. Notice how you, remember, Lutnick was around the president. Every time you saw like a briefing or something in the White House, Howard Lutnick was right there. Notice how now he's not around and, and, you know, they're kind of, you know, keeping him out of the public's view. But it's like, listen, Pat, this, this has been going on for multiple, multiple presidencies.

• 1:19:48Speaker 03

  It's such a sad and disgusting thing. I believe that these people are going to be protected because there's different classes, Pat. There's us, there's millionaires, there's billionaires, that when you get up to that level of billionaire, Pat, it's a whole different situation. You're not in normal rooms with normal people. That's real money, it's real influence. It's very, very, very disturbing to me that it's who's on the in and who knows, okay? And the only thing, and I want people at home, and I get it, everybody gets frustrated. It used to drive me nuts when it comes to accountability. You know, that's one of my main things, it's everybody, no matter what you are, what party you're in, what affiliation, black, white, left, right, I don't care. Accountability. And for all the people that are stressing out, don't worry, if we don't get it here, nobody's hiding from God.

• 1:20:32Speaker 03

  Period, end of story. You could hide wherever you want, you could be the richest person in the world, you could be protected by the highest people on the planet. Nobody's going to hide from him. That's the only solace I have, Tommy, is that's how I feel good at night because you're not going to run at the end of the day. You're not going to hide. God got you.

• 1:20:46Adam Sosnick?

  Look, there's a couple of things here, and I look at it and it's like.

• 1:20:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Is it surprising to me to see Ro Khanna and then Representative Enzari, the Democrat woman there from Arizona, to come out and say, "Oh, the witness from the Republican side is a pathological liar"? No, because that's what they do. They're not supposed to say what they said, but they can characterize it. And so they're at their meeting moment, characterizing it. And it appears to be hinging on one thing. Howard Lutnick said in 2005, "That is a terrible man." We all saw the quote. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He goes, "I would never see him again. He's disgusting. Get him away from me." And then in 2012, he's seen with a bunch of guys in, you know, expensive Birkenstocks and casual shorts, appear to be all congregating there on the island. He had his family there in 2012.

• 1:21:34Tom Ellsworth?

  So it appears to be that they're pushing on one thing. "Oh, you were there in 2012 after saying you were never there again." I don't see anything else. They're all hanging it on that. What does come out here, which is a little uncomfortable, was James Comer is known as being a tough interrogator and a very, remember, he used to be a guy that's kind of full of happiness and sunshine, but behind this, his kind of, his folksy, southern drawl. And then now he's become a little bit more focused, and even he is saying, "I don't know about this." Pat, that was the part that bothered me. It doesn't bother me, Ro Khanna and Enzari. They're supposed to say that. But when Comer comes out and goes, "Gosh, I don't know about this," that's...

• 1:22:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to show a couple of things.

• 1:22:18Tom Ellsworth?

  That doesn't, that doesn't work well for you.

• 1:22:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen, this is how the game works.

• 1:22:22Tom Ellsworth?

  It is. That's kind of my point.

• 1:22:24Patrick Bet-David?

  The way this game works is, if you get up there and you make that kind of a claim to sell the word, how world, how virtuous of a human being you are, there is nothing more annoying to the world than those who sell themselves as being flawless and virtuous, and then story comes

• 1:22:49Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're being held to these levels. See, the difference between when he went out there and said, oh, when I saw that and I said, "We will never..." Okay, great. All right, we believe you. And then it comes out, and then now that happens? Okay, that's your, you know, your drop off on what happened. I was watching something yesterday with Trump debate where he says, "Hey, I did say that, you know, grab him by the, you know, I did say that, I'm not proud of it, that's not a proud moment of mine." And da-da-da-da-da. He needs to come out and say that. He needs to come out and say that. The president, a couple of times, has said that. I mean, so he needs to say that so he can move on. The more you kind of get up there on the camera and you do your smile, because that's probably how you've gotten away with a lot of things in your life, because you're able

• 1:23:34Patrick Bet-David?

  to stay strong and smile and get through, which that's your mechanism. Everybody gets cornered in types like, places like this, and people react to being cornered in a different way. Don't act like you haven't been cornered, or anybody here hasn't been cornered. But I will say this to you, Rokana, if Rokana's gonna play this game, they're gonna come after Rokana next, in a hardcore way. Let me read this to you, okay? "He's a rising Democratic star, but a new audit suggests he's a fraud." So what's the story? Go ahead, Rob. "He first put himself on a map through teaming up with Thomas Massey on Epstein files. Since then, Rokana became a Democratic phenom. But now it's an ethics filing by Kevin Bass accuses Rokana of serious allegations ranging

• 1:24:17Patrick Bet-David?

  from insider training, hidden assets to corruption." Here's what it alleges, keep going next.

• 1:24:23Patrick Bet-David?

  "Rokana's household has made 37,238 stock trades during his time in Congress. He has beaten the market by an estimated $28 million. 99.9% of these trades are listed under his wife or dependent children routed through a dozen family-controlled trusts. Rokana claims the trading is handled by an outsider broker without his knowledge. The complaint says his financial disclosure form proves otherwise. No blind trust, no separate managed account, no outside professional, just trust controlled by family members." Keep going to the next one, Rob. "The complaint identifies four clusters of suspicious activity. His household bought defense stocks Boeing, Lockheed, Raytheon, and..." Days immediately after major defense bill passed, even as Connor voted against them. His, so you realize how crazy that is.

• 1:25:05Patrick Bet-David?

  So he's like, oh my God, we shouldn't do this. Hey, guys, go. So they're alleging that he says, even though I'm against it, go buy it. His household traded pharmaceutical stocks within two weeks of confidential government drug pricing decisions his committee had access to. On at least nine separate days, his family bought Palantir stocks. The same day, it received a federal defense contract. Go to the next one, Rob. These are the patterns. In conclusion, we've always known Connor was a savvy trader. Just last month, it was revealed that he'd beat the S and P 500 by 100%. But these new facts shed light on a different story, one in which Connor and his family have failed to disclose their economic plans, using government information and shady networks to make millions. Connor has long campaigned on getting money out of politics. We're wondering if he's including

• 1:25:48Patrick Bet-David?

  himself. So you see stuff like this. If you're gonna go play that card, you better be ready because they're gonna come after you. And Rokana can also not get up there and act like he's all perfect and all this other stuff. Because you can tell Rokana's got a little bit of aspirations of running for president. He's probably gonna want to run in 2027, 2028. I wouldn't be surprised if he's not on that stage. Chances on winning is gonna be slim to none. And then at the same time, you made a comment about MTG. Did you see the moment yesterday the president had with MTG's boyfriend? No. You didn't see this? Rob, I send this to you. I don't know if you have this or not. I walked out. So the president is making, just making a joke. He's telling a joke, but look at what ends up happening right afterwards. Go ahead, Rob. I love his girlfriend too much. His girlfriend is MTG.

• 1:26:32Patrick Bet-David?

  But I like him, and I've always liked him. It's great that he hasn't changed. But Brian, I think he's, it's not even imaginable to me why. And people are angry about it.

• 1:26:49Speaker 04

  Yeah. Good afternoon, Eric. It's a little bit of sad and it's a little bit of happy as well as this has been really the only

• 1:26:55Patrick Bet-David?

  That was the moment why he quit his job.

• 1:26:57Speaker 04

  You know, chasing

• 1:26:58Patrick Bet-David?

  What?

• 1:26:59Speaker 04

  A lot of times behind the camera. Especially in the last seven, eight years of following President Trump, being kind of the MAGA mouthpiece, if you will, for the Trump America First agenda. But this past Sunday, sitting at home in Georgia, I decided that it's time

• 1:27:22Speaker 06

  And I'll use a MMA reference, it's time to leave the gloves in the ring and walk away from what I really consider, it's been a great career, it's been a great time with Real America's Voice, it's been fantastic working with you. I started this thing back in 1989.

• 1:27:43Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there, he steps out.

• 1:27:44Speaker 03

  That's what it, that?

• 1:27:45Patrick Bet-David?

  That's, that's, now, listen, of course, when, when, when, when you and I hear something like that, and it's like, well, you know, that's the reason why I'm stepping out, but you have to, you mentioned MTG, so this just happened 2440 out, just a couple of days ago.

• 1:28:02Speaker 03

  He's gonna go spend more time with his family. That's what took him to quit, not her, and she just did this, Pat, on May 4th, she said onstage, Trump texts me, this is in regard to like, he kept, she kept going after the files, Trump texts me and said that if my son gets killed because of all the threats that she's getting, I deserve it because I was a traitor to him. You don't quit when that's said, and you're just around the president, that's what it took?

• 1:28:25Patrick Bet-David?

  She says Trump texted him that, texted her that?

• 1:28:27Speaker 03

  Trump, she said, Major Taylor Greene, Trump texts me, basically if my son gets, she goes, I'm getting death threats and all this stuff, my family, and he goes, well, you probably deserve it. He, Rob?

• 1:28:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you believe that?

• 1:28:38Speaker 03

  No, no, I don't, hell no, I don't believe that, but if that's-

• 1:28:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Why would she, did she really say that's, that can be, that can be a comment she made?

• 1:28:45Speaker 03

  I'm sending this to Rob right now while you- Right here?

• 1:28:47Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a three minute clip, Rob, can I, can I see a shorter version of this?

• 1:28:50Speaker 03

  Cause she goes into it, Pat, about, let me see if I sent you one, Rob, that's gonna be shorter.

• 1:28:54Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, if that's what was said, that's terrible, but I don't believe that, that's pretty wild.

• 1:29:00Speaker 03

  But, but, but, but, my thing is this, Pat, if that's what it's taking you, play this one.

• 1:29:02Speaker 06

  All these people, I got no response from Susie Wiles.

• 1:29:06Speaker 03

  About the, the death threats?

• 1:29:08Speaker 06

  None, and she's a mother and a grandmother, and a woman. I got no response from James Blair because he only cares about making money on campaigns. I did hear from Cash Patel, he said on it, but I haven't heard from him since.

• 1:29:24Speaker 06

  I don't know what he's on.

• 1:29:26Speaker 02

  This episode is brought to you by Indeed. You're ready to level up your business, but the pressure to find the right person to make that happen is intense. Indeed sponsored jobs can help carry the load. It boosts your job post to help it reach quality talent fast. Cut through the chaos with Indeed sponsored jobs. Get a $75 sponsored job credit at indeed.com/podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Hiring now? Then this is a job for Indeed sponsored jobs.

• 1:29:55Speaker 06

  Now at Kroger, your points add up to more ways to save every trip. Use them your way to take dollars off groceries at checkout or save at the pump. You can even save up to $35 on your next fill-up. Same points, more choices. And with low prices on fresh, quality food, plus digital and personalized offers tailored to how you shop, your dollar goes further. Redeem your points online or in the app. Kroger, fresh for everyone. Restrictions apply. See site or store for details.

• 1:30:26Speaker 02

  When you spend enough time around great companies, you notice that the best ones treat trust as a growth strategy, not a box to check. Vanta helps companies build and prove trust from day one. Its Agentic Trust Platform connects compliance, risk, and trust at enterprise scale. Vanta delivers a 526% return on investment over three years and pays for itself in just three months. Learn why over 16,000 of the fastest-growing companies use Vanta at vanta.com.

• 1:30:56Speaker 07

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians healthcare to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the House Majority PAC dot com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. USAA knows dynamic duos can save the day.

• 1:31:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Like superheroes and sidekicks or auto and home insurance. With USAA, you can bundle your auto and home and save up to 10%. Tap the banner to learn more and get a quote at USAA.com/bundle. Restrictions apply.

• 1:31:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so she's having fun.

• 1:31:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. But then I think she's talking about the death threats to her family and her children.

• 1:31:51Speaker 06

  JD Vance was very nice to me, compassionate and kind, and reassured me that he would do everything we could to find out what's going on.

• 1:31:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you get to the part about the president?

• 1:31:59Speaker 06

  And then I heard back from Donald Trump. And I've saved these text messages. I'd probably get put in jail if I released them publicly, but I saved them.

• 1:32:09Speaker 06

  Where Donald Trump proceeded to tell me that it was my fault. And that I deserve it. If my son gets killed, I deserve it because I was a traitor to him.

• 1:32:22Speaker 03

  So, yeah, but because I'm a traitor to him.

• 1:32:24Speaker 06

  That is our president of the United States.

• 1:32:25Speaker 03

  If that's your boyfriend, if you have a boyfriend and he's around the president all the time and he's a nagging guy.

• 1:32:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I see what you're saying.

• 1:32:29Speaker 03

  How does that not make you want to friggin quit?

• 1:32:31Patrick Bet-David?

  First of all, whenever, I don't care who is my enemy, my ally, anybody, if somebody's getting death threats, you, you, you, that's, that's not a, that's not a, that's something you do not mess around with. I don't know MTG, I don't have a relationship with her. I, I wouldn't want anybody to experience what it experiences with kids at all whatsoever. So, we, we, you know, I got a weird email yesterday. I showed a couple of guys, we have security that's looking into it. I'm not going to talk about what the email was. But nobody should be going through stuff like that. So, our prayers are that she and her son and everybody's going to be okay. But going back to with the comments that was said with, you know, Lutnick, all that stuff, I mean, look, you know, I don't know, I, I don't know.

• 1:33:12Patrick Bet-David?

  To me, to me, this, there's a, there's a Republican faction that thinks that Trump and all this other stuff, do I think Trump would be the kind of guy that protects his guys? Do I think he is that kind of a guy? Yeah, I do think he's that kind of a guy. Do I think he thinks he knows a couple of his guys or a part of it? And he's like, oh, yes. Do I think it's a lot more on the other side than on this side? Of course I do. Do I think the Democrats and James Comey and all these guys that had all this stuff on Epstein for decades, they could To use it against Trump on sixteen twenty and they never did. Of course, I do believe that. So, you know, they know if Trump was a, a, a part of it or not. So if they didn't use it in sixteen or twenty, now you want to come out and say, so, yeah, I don't know, but Lutnick screwed up. That's a, that's a major, major L for Lutnick.

• 1:33:54Adam Sosnick?

  I, I think the common theme here is the whole, uh, if you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks or, or stones.

• 1:34:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:01Adam Sosnick?

  Because, I mean, the, what, what we're seeing is that I would never, I would never do something like that, whoever it may be.

• 1:34:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:08Adam Sosnick?

  And like you brought up the, the Trump thing where he said grab him by the whatever. He's like, yeah, I said it. Straight up. Like, at the end of the day, what I think people appreciate more than anything, and that's why people are turning to streamers and YouTubers and, and these types of people is like, just keep it real, bro. The, the, a lot of this old fashioned line of thinking is pre-social media, pre-internet. The internet is forever. I mean, look, look at Tucker. I won't use an example. Buddy, I, I never said that, buddy. Roll the tape. Two weeks ago, you said that.

• 1:34:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:36Adam Sosnick?

  How many times are we gonna do this?

• 1:34:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Different story.

• 1:34:37Adam Sosnick?

  A whole different story, but what I, what I'm saying is just own who you are. Like, you know why I respect Mom Donnie? He says, I'm a democratic socialist. I sympathize with Hamas. I want to tax the rich. This is who I am. Take it or leave it. And you know what New Yorkers did? They said, we'll take it. So what you're talking about, like this whole thing with Ro Khanna, oh, you know, I, I, we're gonna go after this, guys, accusing me of all this stuff. You're in the same district of Pelosi.

• 1:35:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Just be careful.

• 1:35:04Adam Sosnick?

  In the same district of Pelosi and somehow you've accumulated this massive wealth and you're making these stock trades right before these defense contracts go through? So that's like me saying, yeah, guys, I'm running for office. I would never go to a nightclub. Oh, I've never been out in South Beach and party. I would never. It's like, buddy, we have so many videos of you out there. It's just own who you are and your vibe will attract your tribe. And if you're gonna get caught lying, that's gonna happen in the end because you pretend to be someone you're not.

• 1:35:32Tom Ellsworth?

  I appreciate you saying that, Beryl Khan. I've got something not to contradict you, but support what you're saying. Words talk, numbers scream. And what they reported, if the allegation is true, that was reported that there were thirty-seven thousand two hundred and thirty-eight trades made by Ro Khanna. He's been in Congress for three thousand four hundred and twelve days of that twenty-four hundred. of those days, our market is open, the market's open seven hours. If you divide that out, 2.2 trades have been made per hour, for every hour that the market has been open during Rokana being in office.

• 1:36:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't act like you're fricking, you know, this.

• 1:36:02Tom Ellsworth?

  If the numbers that came out, they'll use your correct, Pat. That's what it comes out to. Two trades an hour for every hour the market's been open while you have been in Congress for 3,400 days.

• 1:36:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, how long is the clip? I just texted you guys to want to know how long that clip is.

• 1:36:15Tom Ellsworth?

  For your point, Adam.

• 1:36:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you find the part at the end when she celebrates?

• 1:36:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, that's it. Yep, I have it queued up.

• 1:36:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to go to a story. None of you guys know what this clip is. I saw this clip and I said, I just, you know, we're going to do a segment moving forward that's going to be called Heroes and Zeros. Okay? In this clip, there is the hero, which I believe is the judge, and there's the zero, which is the mother. It is going to be painful for you to watch this clip. There's a three-year-old daughter there that her entire life since she's been born, she looks at the fellow to the right as her father. He the entire time has treated her as if it's his daughter. When they announce that the baby is not his, look at the mom's reaction and look what the judge says and how she reacts.

• 1:37:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I get the chills all over my body just watching this, telling this story. Go ahead, Rob, go for it.

• 1:37:07Speaker 06

  It has been determined by this court. Mr. Rasmussen, you are not the father. Ms. Miller? Irrespective. Ms. Miller? I'm sorry. That's a lot of nerve considering the alternative is somebody that don't want nothing to do with you or your child. That's a lot of nerve.

• 1:37:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you get it? No, watch, wait for it. Watch what she says.

• 1:37:37Speaker 06

  You just showed me where your priorities were right there. Because I held out hope that you weren't just acting a fool because you so mad at him because he cheated on you, that you would cheat your child out of a father. But that cheering you did? What you cheering? I'm a single mother with nobody to love. Me and my child, what you cheering for? Wow. I'm nice. No, you were. He is over here breaking down because he loves this child so much. I sit here day after day after day with women hoping a man would drive 16 miles to see their baby, much less 160 miles each way.

• 1:38:14Patrick Bet-David?

  He drives 160 miles each way.

• 1:38:15Speaker 06

  And abide by a court order and sign a birth certificate and come day after day and week after week so they can grow visitation to have a relationship with the child. And you have no compassion for not just him, but for Zaylee, she's three years old.

• 1:38:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Freaking.

• 1:38:29Speaker 06

  Now, he's not just gonna be heartbroken, we gotta break this news to her. And y'all over here cheering like it's a sport, this is this baby's life. And I ask you, where's this other man? I don't know. Right. And you know he don't want nothing to do with you? Sitting up there cheering.

• 1:38:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I love this clip.

• 1:38:50Speaker 06

  Mr. Rasmussen, I am so sorry. I know this hurts you.

• 1:38:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Thank you, Your Honor. I don't know what I'm gonna do.

• 1:38:58Speaker 03

  Oh, man.

• 1:38:59Patrick Bet-David?

  She's my whole, my whole world, everything I do is for her. She was the reason I went to work every day. Can pause it right there. What a moment. How, how do you, how do you process this, Vinnie?

• 1:39:14Speaker 03

  First of all, there's no, you know who the zero is, and you know who the hero is. What a, I don't, I've never, by the, I, first time I'm ever seeing this, Pat, and I was almost getting emotional, that is the most, I love the fact that the judge did what she did. What, but, cause mind you, this is a paternity court, it's a, it's a show. That's not scripted, what she just did. No, that's not. That is, a judge aside, that is a human being realizing the situation and in the moment pointing out how disgusting of an act that this so-called mother did and can care less about what's gonna happen. This three-year-old kid, that adorable kid that we just saw, is not gonna have anybody now because the other person's not involved.

• 1:39:55Speaker 03

  And look at this, Pat, this guy who thought was the father, now he just realized he's not, he has zero attachment, meaning DNA-wise to the kid. Look at that. He is ruined. He is ruined for the rest of his life because of the bond that he made with that kid. It's going to affect both of them. And I think it's a disgusting thing that the, the mom is, is acting like that. But what a, what a, what an amazing thing for him stepping up and what a great job by that judge by Lauren, Lauren Lake. Good for you.

• 1:40:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. By the way, shout out to Lauren Lake. I don't know who you are. This is the first time I'm seeing this. Un-frickin'- believable what you just said and how you handled yourself. Respect to you, ma'am. Tom, your thoughts?

• 1:40:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, I echo that. Hats off to Lauren Lake. That was, that was the, you know, th- this is television made for entertainment purposes. But in the midst of that, she spoke pure truth. She spoke it from the heart and she spoke it correctly. What angers me about this is that there is no moral foundation here. There's no moral foundation. When you lose the moral foundation and you lose a simple conviction that says, we should be doing everything what we can when the kids are born, to turn them into great citizens by giving them love, structure, and the resources they need just so they can thrive. Not every kid's going to go to private school. Not every kid's going to have this kind of life or that kind of life. But every kid can have the love of parents regardless of where your station in life is.

• 1:41:15Tom Ellsworth?

  And when you abdicate that responsibility to deliver that to a child so that you can create a great citizen the next day, and you replace it with selfishness at the core that could lead you to cheer in a courtroom because you win? You didn't win. The child lost.

• 1:41:31Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:41:32Tom Ellsworth?

  The child is taking the L they don't even know they're taking. The child has to go and watch this someday and, and sit there and, and love her mom somehow and then see what her mom did. And goes, wait a minute, what was this? My mom did that to my stepdad? And there's another guy that was my real dad? That kid's got to watch this. This is forever. There's, someday this kid's going to be told by another classmate or somebody, hey, man, have you seen that video? I think that's your mom. And it just, when we lose moral foundation, Pat, we lose everything. And the moral, the moral foundation, when built on faith, gives something better and bigger than yourself to latch on to. And I don't see it present here, but Lauren Lake, God bless you for what you said.

• 1:42:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam?

• 1:42:16Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. Uh, I'm not saying she's a gold digger, but you know, she ain't messing with no- So what's the famous line from Kanye? Eighteen years, eighteen years, and on the eighteenth birthday, you find out that it is yours? He found out three years later. And don't you think that guy wanted to be a dad? Don't you think that guy cherished every single moment? She said, "Most guys wouldn't drive sixteen miles." This guy's driving a hundred and sixty miles to come see his daughter. Each way. So it's the famous quote, you know, "Any man can be a father, but it takes a special man to be a dad." This guy wanted to be a dad. And he got his heart ripped out in front of everybody in court and on TV. And the mom is celebrating? What are you celebrating exactly? Being a single mom? With the alleged real father who wants nothing to do with you?

• 1:43:01Adam Sosnick?

  And now the father that actually wants to be in the child's life? You're celebrating the fact that he's not the father? So what are you gonna do? You're gonna be a single mom? You know what the stats of a single mom look like?

• 1:43:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:13Adam Sosnick?

  It's ugly.

• 1:43:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen.

• 1:43:14Adam Sosnick?

  So she's a horrible person.

• 1:43:16Patrick Bet-David?

  There, we have, we have a case like this in, in, in one of our relatives, one of our family, where the girl doesn't know who her dad is. And we work very hard to find out. You know, because do you want to know? We asked this kid, "Do you want to know, you know, who it is?" What kid doesn't want to know, you know, who their father is? Right? Can you imagine that? Like, you grow up for the rest of your life, you don't know who it is? And it's such an emotional thing. I cannot tell you how much rage went into my blood when I saw her celebrating.

• 1:43:50Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Celebrating. This was a viral clip on Instagram that I saw. Celebrating, knowing this, by the way, this kid is three now. For how long you think she's gonna see that clip of her mother celebrating?

• 1:44:02Adam Sosnick?

  Forever.

• 1:44:03Patrick Bet-David?

  For the rest of her life? How do you think she's gonna look at her mom? What, what do you think about your mom?

• 1:44:07Adam Sosnick?

  The mom is gonna completely brainwash the child. He wasn't a good father. He wasn't there for you. I'm the only one that's there for you.

• 1:44:12Patrick Bet-David?

  But there will come a time, but there will come a time, but there will come a time. And when that time comes, where the kid is gonna sit there, very few kids you can brainwash for forty years. You can brainwash a lot of kids for five, ten, fifteen, twenty years. Eventually, they grow up. Trust me. I lived in a family where, you know, they were brainwashed on how horrible of a person my dad was. I never believed him. Ever believed him when they did that. Never, never once did it work on me. Ever. I'm like, "No, you guys have no clue what you're talking about. You're full of shit." And then eventually it came out on who was the one that was doing that behind closed doors.

• 1:44:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, this, listen, this is the reason why I'm, I'm finally, I never wanted to do this. I didn't want to do this because it's unnecessary pressure on the kids and all that stuff. I'm writing the, the book on fatherhood and there's no C T I don't have a book right now. I don't know when it's going to come, probably next couple of years. Because of men like that, like you can tell his biggest purpose in life was having a kid and raising that kid. That was his purpose. That's what he woke up for every day. There's something very special that happens, you know, because the, the, the reality of it is everything you're doing with, no matter how hard of a time you're going through right now, I saw this other thing, Rob, I'll send this to you. I'm reading this, this morning and I'm just kind of sitting there like, what's a very weird morning for me of thinking and thoughts and a lot of thoughts going through with family, life, all this other stuff.

• 1:45:37Patrick Bet-David?

  And it's, it's like, no matter what you're going through right now, in the next five years, you know, the bad, the good, the ugly, you're gonna forget about the bad generally, but you're gonna be sitting there reminiscing about the good. And let me explain to you what I've been doing this week. For whatever reason, this week I want to wake up early in the morning and I just go sit right in front of Brooklyn and I want to watch her wake up.

• 1:46:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And I go and I just sit there and I just watch Brooklyn wake up. You know, and the whole thing with the eyes, I just want to watch her wake up. And then I go to center and I watch her wake up. I give her a kiss. I give her a kiss and I go to Tico, I go to Dylan. And then Brooklyn, I lay in bed with her, six thirty in the morning, just spending some time with her. Because this thing goes so fast, it's not even funny. I'll read this to you, something I sent to my wife this morning. And it got me thinking, I'll just read it to you for you guys to see. Uh, parents, brace for impact because you're going to relate to this, especially parents uh, who are going through this and sometimes, you know, we have all these other thoughts. One day.

• 1:46:44Patrick Bet-David?

  They stop running to you first thing in the morning. The sound of little footsteps in the hallway. That hug in your bed slowly fades into silence and a closed bedroom door. They stop saying, "Mom, Dad, look, look, Mom, look, Dad." They don't run to you anymore to show every little rock or every drawn. Slowly their world becomes quieter and more their own. One day they stop holding your hand when you walk and suddenly you feel that emptiness. Not because the love is gone, but because they're growing up. One day they stop falling asleep in your arms. That little head on your shoulder, the sound of their breathing down, slowing down. These are moments that end without warning.

• 1:47:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not given this warning, right? At some point, they stop believing your, uh, your kiss can fix everything. Once a bandage was enough. Then the deepest wounds start hiding in music and in silence, no longer in your arms. They stop bringing you their little treasures. Leaves, pieces of paper, tiny finds. That pure spontaneous love just becomes less. Childhood isn't a rehearsal, it's happening right now. And while they ask, why they still ask to be held and call for you all day. Cherish every moment, one day these moments will become just memories. Hold on to this feeling. Man, this is awesome, right?

• 1:48:14Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, you wrote that?

• 1:48:15Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I'm reading it. Bailey goes to college. The day Bailey goes away to college, me, Tom, Kim and Jen are at, um, French restaurant.

• 1:48:25Adam Sosnick?

  In Boca.

• 1:48:26Patrick Bet-David?

  In Boca. And it hasn't hit yet. And I asked the question, I look at Tom, I say, "Tom,

• 1:48:35Patrick Bet-David?

  how are you handling her being gone? Your baby girl is gone. She's at the independent doing her thing. How are you handling? Tom, do you remember that? It's such a beautiful freaking thing. And you're trying to tell me you're celebrating that kid is never gonna have that man that's gonna protect her? You're celebrating that? It's insane when you think about it. You know, it's insane when you think about it. This is why when you, when you, when you go through like right now, Pauline, and then just send me a text. I don't know if you want to pull this up, Rob. Proud moment in our family. I don't know if you got it. If I haven't texted it to you, don't worry about it. Yeah, right there. We just got word. Grace was one of three kids that since ninth grade has never gotten anything but an A.

• 1:49:20Speaker 03

  Wow, Grace.

• 1:49:22Patrick Bet-David?

  And you know what announcement was just made 20 minutes ago? High school graduation. She's the valedictorian.

• 1:49:27Speaker 03

  Wow, congratulations, Pauline. Amazing.

• 1:49:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:31Speaker 03

  Oh, congrats.

• 1:49:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Isn't that amazing? And by the way, you want to know the craziest thing about Grace?

• 1:49:36Speaker 03

  This is your niece for, to be clear.

• 1:49:37Patrick Bet-David?

  My parents, the last time they were in the room together was 1989. Before they got the divorce. You know, it's the second time they were together? When she was born.

• 1:49:44Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 1:49:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Grandkids unite families. There's something very special about life, kids, blood, that emotional part you go through. So Judge, wherever you are, shout out to you. And that girl, wherever she's at, I pray for God to be as close, because God protects. You have to have that God protects. He's gonna be there. He's gonna do his part. And I hope that lady, whoever she is, that Judge had this much of an influence for her to become a better mother. Instead of acting the way that she did. That wasn't even the plan on me showing this. I just saw this this morning. I said, I want to bring it up to you guys to share it with you. I thought it was a amazing testimony.

• 1:50:26Speaker 03

  Because Pat, if you think about it, who, who knows who the new guy that she's gonna date is gonna be? Who, who knows? You remember when Tim Tebow showed all those chart of all the disgusting people out there looking at child, you know, sexual stuff and all that stuff? Who knows who you're gonna bring into the house now? And you, you think it's gonna treat your child like the way that this guy did? The guy that, that's a, like again, prayers to that kid and that the mother makes a freaking decision. Hopefully that is a way. Call to her, hopefully.

• 1:50:57Adam Sosnick?

  This is the first time hearing you're writing a book on fatherhood. You said it's not anytime soon. I think that's awesome. I think what makes, people tell me this all the time, I think what people love about our podcast is that we're not just politics, we're not just business, we're not just current events, we're, we're real stuff. Family, kids, dynamics, parents, aging, birth, everything like that. And I think at the end of the day, what's the most important thing in your life? And that has to be your family and friends and the people around you. And I'm just grateful for what we do and learning stories like this makes me even clear on what our mission.

• 1:51:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey guys, to people out there that you take your job as being a parent seriously, I got a lot of respect for you. You're very important. You make the society a better place. I hope you could be sitting in front of me right now for me to give you a high five and give you a hug and tell you, hey, great work, keep at it. You matter behind closed doors. You may not get enough recognition. Fathers, mothers, keep loving your kids. If you screwed up, you made mistakes and you feel like, man, maybe I'm not a good father. Hey, they'll forgive you. They just want your company, man. They just want you there. They, they want a relationship with you. So, but to those that go above and beyond, I applaud you. I got a lot of respect for you and we're going to continue highlighting more heroes and zeros because we need to know what to do that's the right thing to do. And we need to also know what's a dumb thing to do.

• 1:52:14Patrick Bet-David?

  So we learn from the good, bad and the ugly. All right. Let me get into the next story here that I want to do as well before we wrap up. It's a kind of goes in line with what we just saw right now. So Stefan Diggs, football player. I think he's with the Bills. I don't know who he's with today.

• 1:52:29Adam Sosnick?

  He was with the England last year and I think he's a free agent right now.

• 1:52:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Was he ever with the Bills or?

• 1:52:34Adam Sosnick?

  He was, he was with Minnesota, then he was with the Bills, then he was with Houston.

• 1:52:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So he has this, this story, Rob. I don't know what page this story is. I don't even know if we have.

• 1:52:42Adam Sosnick?

  Twenty-six.

• 1:52:42Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. Page twenty-six or twenty-eight. It could be twenty-eight. So, so jury finds Stefan Diggs not guilty of assault, strangulation. So he has a chef.

• 1:52:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And this chef that he has alleges that he strangled her and then he slapped her in the face and allegedly she is asking Stefan for I think I don't know what the number is Rob five put some ridiculous number 5.4 million dollars now keep in mind somebody may look at Stefan Diggs and say wow this guy's a football player he's a player he's probably he probably hit her he probably did right he probably hit her because it does happen we know the you know different stories in the past Ray Rice we've seen these videos it's not like this hasn't happened and see she comes out and says 5.4 million dollars you know 5.4 million is this the one that he's innocent Rob I don't want to play this

• 1:53:38Patrick Bet-David?

  one I want to show some of the stuff on what she did when she was being questioned

• 1:53:41Tom Ellsworth?

  right here

• 1:53:41Patrick Bet-David?

  which which one is this

• 1:53:42Tom Ellsworth?

  this is where they're asked about the 5.4 million dollar request of payment from Stefan Diggs

• 1:53:49Patrick Bet-David?

  yeah there's a moment of this that you can tell the judge is starting to get annoyed with her forget about the you know the opposite side defending it for Stefan Diggs but watch this clip here go ahead Rob

• 1:54:01Speaker 06

  Ms. Adams, three weeks ago, your lawyer demanded 5.5 million dollars from Stefan Diggs, correct?

• 1:54:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this

• 1:54:17Speaker 02

  That is client lawyer privilege I cannot speak on that

• 1:54:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you just see what she said?

• 1:54:24Speaker 06

  You believe that your lawyer's communications to Stefan Diggs are covered by your attorney-client privilege ma'am?

• 1:54:33Patrick Bet-David?

  She don't know nothing

• 1:54:34Speaker 02

  I can't answer that question I don't know the answer to that question

• 1:54:37Speaker 06

  You know that someone on your behalf has demanded 5.5 million dollars from Stefan Diggs, don't you?

• 1:54:51Speaker 06

  Have a worker's comp claim and I'll explore all Silva options. Ma'am, are you able to answer that question? No, I'm not. Counsel, restate the question, please. You know that someone on your behalf has demanded 5.5 million dollars from Stefan Diggs.

• 1:55:12Speaker 06

  Do you know that, Ms. Adams? No.

• 1:55:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you understanding what's going on here? Lawyer defending her, she doesn't. So Rob, now go to the clip that I just sent you with the judge finally snapping and saying, "Hey, man, what are you going to do here? Answer the damn question." Do you have that one, Rob? Watch this here. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:55:28Speaker 06

  Responsible for answering questions that are quitting. If you don't understand a question, you can say that. And I'm sure counsel will rephrase it. If you can't hear a question, tell them that as well. But courtrooms function, and especially trials, unfold in a question and answer format. This is not an opportunity for you to interject your own narrative and evade responding to questions the court deems appropriate.

• 1:55:59Speaker 02

  This episode is brought to you by Indeed. You're ready to level up your business, but the pressure to find the right person to make that happen is intense. Indeed sponsored jobs can help carry the load. It boosts your job post to help it reach quality talent fast. Cut through the chaos with Indeed sponsored jobs. Get a $75 sponsored job credit at indeed.com/podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Hiring now? Then this is a job for Indeed sponsored jobs.

• 1:56:29Speaker 06

  Now at Kroger, your points add up to more ways to save every trip. Use them your way to take dollars off groceries at checkout or save at the pump. You can even save up to $35 on your next fill-up. Same points, more choices. And with low prices on fresh, quality food, plus digital and personalized offers tailored to how you shop, your dollar goes further. Redeem your points online or in the app. Kroger, fresh for everyone. Restrictions apply. See site or store for details.

• 1:56:59Tom Ellsworth?

  When you're building a company, you learn that trust is what closes deals. You may have the best product, but buyers won't sign without proof that your product is secure, especially if it has AI. Vanta gets you compliant fast with SOC 2, ISO 27001, and more, and keeps you secure with continuous monitoring. Hyperbound, a YC-backed startup, used Vanta to unlock the Fortune 100 in under a year. Snowfire got audit ready in a month and closed a multimillion dollar deal. Trust matters. Get started at vanta.com.

• 1:57:27Speaker 07

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians' healthcare to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. Cheese for us. Paid for by HMP, the House Majority PAC dot com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

• 1:57:56Tom Ellsworth?

  USAA knows dynamic duos can save the day, like superheroes and sidekicks, or auto and home insurance. With USAA, you can bundle your auto and home and save up to 10%. Tap the banner to learn more and get a quote at usaa.com/bundle. Restrictions apply.

• 1:58:12Speaker 06

  And if you continue to do so, your entire testimony may be stripped. Am I clear? Yes.

• 1:58:21Speaker 03

  I love that. Like, answer the questions.

• 1:58:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Am I clear? And by the way, when she said that Stefan Diggs choked her and slapped her, that same exact trip, okay? Another girl recorded this video of her dancing and celebrating. Watch this. Go ahead, Rob. Does this look like a person that was just slapped and choked? And by the way, the girl that recorded this video, Rob, the girl that recorded this video of her dancing was also giving her testimony. And you should see what she said.

• 1:58:57Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 1:58:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you should see what she said. I don't know if you have that one, Rob, or not. This girl's giving her testimony. And by the way, the reason why this is so important is because if they don't have these clips, if that girl doesn't come out and say anything, guess what happens to Stefan Diggs?

• 1:59:11Speaker 03

  He's done.

• 1:59:12Patrick Bet-David?

  He's probably going to jail.

• 1:59:14Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:59:14Patrick Bet-David?

  And he's probably having to pay a massive fine to her. But, you know, when you're a dummy like this lady here, who is lying through her teeth and saying, "She got slapped in the face." There's a clip. Let me see that one, Rob. I'll be able to see her face if it's that one or not. Let me see. I don't know if it's that one. That's not her. That's not her, because there's another girl that went on, on the clip that she's being asked about, and she says, "Yeah, I was, yeah, I was doing the film." Yes, she knows. No, she wasn't hurt. Did she act like she was getting, you know, anything going on? No, not at all. Nothing really happened with her. So, more and more stories like this come out, and we saw what happened with Amber Heard trying to destroy Johnny Depp's life.

• 1:59:54Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Right? We saw with, you know, what's that girl's name? Age of Adeline. Who's the girl that played Age of Adeline that's married to, uh? Blake Lively. Blake Lively, tried to destroy the Justin Baldonia. We saw what happened with that. They dropped that case, I think.

• 2:00:07Adam Sosnick?

  Good.

• 2:00:07Patrick Bet-David?

  If I'm not mistaken, that case was dropped. So, more and more stuff like this happens. People have to protect themselves. And you have to be careful that if you become somebody that's a public figure making money, there are women, there was a girl in Pasadena that destroyed Trevor Bauer's career.

• 2:00:24Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 2:00:25Patrick Bet-David?

  These types of people exist. There's names for them. Okay? What did they call it? Cleat chasers or what?

• 2:00:31Adam Sosnick?

  Cleat chasers.

• 2:00:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Cleat chasers, Jersey chasers. That's a different word for them. I want, I want to be able to-

• 2:00:36Adam Sosnick?

  Jersey jumpers, cleat chasers.

• 2:00:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, do you have any thoughts on this? I'm gonna go find the other clip. Go ahead.

• 2:00:40Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I'm very familiar with Stefan Diggs' story. He was actually drafted by the Minnesota Vikings. Him and Adam Thielen were a deadly wide receiver combo. They're, the reason I know that is because my cousin was Adam Thielen's agent, so I was very familiar with the situation there. He's an NFL agent, big time in Minnesota. Shout out to Blake.

• 2:00:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, stay on this story. You just said a 30 second about it. Tell us about this story. Go ahead.

• 2:01:02Adam Sosnick?

  I am. I was giving you a little context that I know the guy. So, are you familiar with who he's been dating in the last?

• 2:01:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 2:01:08Adam Sosnick?

  Few years? Cardi B. Okay, so- She's pregnant. There's two different stories going on. Let me try to sum up this. There's the truth, and then there's the stories and the fables out there. The truth is this, that we've heard this story about believe all women, which clearly at this point, don't believe anybody. You know, we're talking about Iran right now. Don't trust them and don't verify, and verify everything, because everything needs to be verified. The reality is, we need to solve for the truth. Thank God, we have a Justice Department that's willing to litigate this situation and basically expose this woman as the fraud she is. And,

• 2:01:41Adam Sosnick?

  She'll deal with what the judge and the jury basically passed out on her for basically lying. We'll see what happens. He was acquitted, and I believe so is the right verdict, for the strangulation, the assault of the battery. At the same time, when you're a public figure like this, and you're accused, allegedly, of not only having sex with your chef, with your assistant, your hairdresser, your baby mama, and then on top of that, Cardi B, at what point do you have to look in the mirror and say, "Clean it up, brother"?

• 2:02:10Speaker 03

  Good point.

• 2:02:10Adam Sosnick?

  When there's smoke, there's fire. So I'm not saying that he's guilty of anything, other than basically making poor decisions of where to put his little head. Because we all know this as men, you have your big head, and you have your small head. And when the small head takes over, dumb decisions happen after that. So, clean it up, be smart, and thankfully, you were not found guilty of something you did not do.

• 2:02:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So, Rob, I think that clip you had was the right one. It's just, I don't remember the girl being, honestly, that big. I thought it was a smaller girl. Go a little bit lower. I think the clip you had, go, no, you just passed it, Rob. Go a little bit lower.

• 2:02:42Adam Sosnick?

  I love too, man.

• 2:02:43Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, listen, that's for you, but I'm just saying, I didn't think she was that big. Is this it? Let me hear this?

• 2:02:50Adam Sosnick?

  Ms. Adams cooked dinner that night?

• 2:02:52Patrick Bet-David?

  It was like a hot dog. It was like a, and there was like mustard on it, but it was like left on the counter and it was like dried up. And then, in the room, it was like dried up. So there was like two that were made.

• 2:03:04Adam Sosnick?

  Let me back you up on that. As a chef, right? Do you know if she did cook dinner that night?

• 2:03:07Patrick Bet-David?

  She did.

• 2:03:09Adam Sosnick?

  Where did she do that?

• 2:03:10Patrick Bet-David?

  In the kitchen.

• 2:03:11Adam Sosnick?

  And what time did you see that?

• 2:03:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I just remember the food being like prepared. Anyway, so there's, I'm watching the hot dog.

• 2:03:18Adam Sosnick?

  It was dry. It's ironic, right?

• 2:03:20Speaker 03

  It was a mustard on it.

• 2:03:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, but the reality of it is, Rob, now he's gone, right? He's innocent, they let it go. Do you have that one, when they announced the fact that he's not guilty? And, okay, that's the one. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:03:31Speaker 03

  What is your verdict? Guilty or not guilty?

• 2:03:34Speaker 02

  Not guilty. After just over two hours of deliberations, former New England Patriots wide receiver Stefan Diggs found not guilty.

• 2:03:42Speaker 03

  So say all members of the jury?

• 2:03:44Speaker 02

  Yes. Diggs, in tears as the verdict was read. He was accused of strangling and assaulting his then-live-in personal chef, Jamila Adams, who says she had been romantically involved with Diggs. Adams testifying the argument started over a pay dispute. He took his arm and he like came around my neck with the- around my neck and he began to choke me. But the defense says that never happened, pointing to the lack of medical records or photographic evidence showing this video of her dancing just days after the alleged attack. There was no assault, no strangulation, no incident at all.

• 2:04:25Speaker 02

  Adams taking the stand in the two day trial, at times struggling to answer questions.

• 2:04:31Speaker 06

  Do you ask or no question ma'am?

• 2:04:33Speaker 02

  I don't know how to answer that question. Diggs never testified in his own defense.

• 2:04:43Speaker 02

  The four time Pro Bowler released from the Patriots back in March was one of their star receivers.

• 2:04:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, fellas, if you're making money, you're successful, be careful where you, how you position yourself, what you do, all of that, especially when you're a big name like this here.

• 2:05:01Speaker 03

  And get a better chef that doesn't ruin how, how do you, how are you a chef?

• 2:05:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Alper would never do that.

• 2:05:05Speaker 03

  Alper would never, I was just gonna say that, Alper, he would never make two, two.

• 2:05:09Adam Sosnick?

  Imagine you hire a chef and just chuck some hot dogs.

• 2:05:11Speaker 03

  She's microwaving them with mustard, she's a freak.

• 2:05:14Patrick Bet-David?

  She needs to, he needs to find a good Turkish chef.

• 2:05:18Adam Sosnick?

  Preferably bald so hair doesn't get into the food.

• 2:05:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly.

• 2:05:21Adam Sosnick?

  But the easiest thing to do right now is condemn this woman for being a, a.

• 2:05:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Gold digger.

• 2:05:27Adam Sosnick?

  Gold digger.

• 2:05:27Patrick Bet-David?

  She's the qualified gold digger, not the other one.

• 2:05:29Adam Sosnick?

  She is 100%.

• 2:05:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 2:05:30Adam Sosnick?

  She lied, she was looking for a payday, she never filed the police report, she's doing the whip, she's doing the shuffle, she doesn't understand basic questions or saying yes or no, but I do, I do want to say, be careful who you let in your house, you're gonna let some, some chef who makes used hot dogs.

• 2:05:46Speaker 03

  But you're hooking up.

• 2:05:47Adam Sosnick?

  In your house that you're allegedly.

• 2:05:49Speaker 03

  Allegedly.

• 2:05:49Adam Sosnick?

  Having relationships with, it's like, be very careful, so.

• 2:05:53Patrick Bet-David?

  What is the likelihood they hooked up?

• 2:05:55Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 2:05:55Adam Sosnick?

  Very, very, very.

• 2:05:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree.

• 2:05:57Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, of course, of course, yeah.

• 2:05:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:59Adam Sosnick?

  I don't even know if he denied that, I, I don't know, but the reality is this, he needs to make better decision making of who he lets around him. And but at the end of the day, this is the person that that

• 2:06:09Patrick Bet-David?

  So maybe like the hot dog is like a hot dog exchange. May maybe because his mind, his mind. It's like.

• 2:06:16Adam Sosnick?

  It's like his mind telling him no.

• 2:06:17Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Pat.

• 2:06:18Adam Sosnick?

  But his, but his hot dog.

• 2:06:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Hot dog.

• 2:06:20Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:06:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, anyways, okay. Hot dog between buns.

• 2:06:24Adam Sosnick?

  Why did you want to cover that story? Because that was the one in your top five.

• 2:06:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I think it's a story. I, I watched and I can't stand people like that that can potentially destroy someone's life. And I think young men need to be aware of those things are out there for you. You need to be careful on what's going on and protect yourself more. Anyways, all right. So today's what, Rob? Friday? It's Friday. Okay, we got a couple podcasts that hasn't yet gone live, right? If I'm not mistaken, one is CZ with Binance, which is a phenomenal, phenomenal podcast that'll go out to, uh, next week. And is it true that tomorrow's Robert Pape? Yes, sir. Robert Pape is going out tomorrow. Oh, the audience is gonna love that one about Iran and his views. It's kind of like a Susan Koke in the, uh, uh, that'll go out. Pape. Robert Pape. Not the Pope. No. There's Pope's in the news too. I, I, I, I told him, I said, listen, I think it's a better last name if we say, you know, Pape. Pape.

• 2:07:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Instead of Pape. Put a little accent on it. Pape, but he said, no.

• 2:07:15Adam Sosnick?

  Maybe he moves to Miami, we call him Papisito. We don't know.

• 2:07:17Patrick Bet-David?

  That's why I said, I said, there was a lot of things you can do with that. But, uh, all right, with that being said, gang, uh, again, for those of you guys on Monday, nine AM, we're sending the report. If you want to see the report and those of you guys that participated, text the word PBD two, three, one, zero, three, four, zero, one, one, three, two. PBD two, three, one, zero, three, four, zero, one, one, three, two. And everybody else that did the survey, thank you. The $25 gift card is in your email. Uh, go activate it anytime you'd like. God bless everybody. Have a great weekend. Bye bye, bye bye.

• 2:07:47Speaker 07

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman, Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid and risked 350,000 Virginians healthcare to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the House Majority PAC dot com, not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. Your website can do more with Base44. Describe what you want in plain language and build. A site where people can book with you or buy from you. Payments, data, security and hosting are built in. Go to base44.com.

• 2:08:32Speaker 03

  How many discounts does USAA Auto Insurance offer? Too many to say here. Multi-vehicle discount, safe driver discount, uh, new vehicle discount, storage discount. Legacy discount.

• 2:08:41Speaker 02

  How many discounts will you stack up? Tap the banner or visit usaa.com/autodiscount. Restrictions apply.