Trump's 'Shoot And Kill' Order + Ilhan Omar Snaps | PBD #784

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, Ilan Srulovicz and Vincent Oshana break down Trump's explosive "Shoot & Kill" order directing the U. S. Navy to open fire — without hesitation — on Iranian boats laying mines in the Strait of Hormuz, which carries 20% of the world's oil supply. Then, the mystery deepening around at least 11 dead or missing American scientists tied to NASA, Los Alamos, nuclear weapons, and classified defense programs — Trump himself said "it's pretty serious stuff" after being briefed by the FBI. And the story nobody saw coming: a Special Forces soldier who helped plan and execute Operation Absolute Resolve — the raid that captured Maduro — was just indicted for allegedly betting $400K on Polymarket that it would succeed. ------ 🧢 BUY 4 HATS & GET THE AUTOGRAPHED PBD PODCAST HAT: https://bit.ly/4vPGn0L 🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: https://bit.ly/4mFBPpw Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠ 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:13Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 0:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:18Speaker 02

  My son's right there.

• 0:19Speaker 00

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:26Patrick Bet-David?

  So apparently, the Teacher of the Year Award in the state of California goes to Katie Porter for giving Gavin Newsom a B on homelessness because of the way she handled it. And Steve Hilton, who is the opponent, running as a Republican, came up and said, "I wish I had you as a teacher because I give Gavin Newsom an F." You have to see this clip in the debate. There's a bunch of other stuff that's going on. Apparently, Trump said, "You know, I didn't know Israel and Lebanon like each other." Apparently, they like each other. They keep saying good things that they're best friends, that I think they like each other. So there's a ceasefire there apparently for three weeks, which we'll talk about. Mike Vrabel, I don't know what's going on there with Mike Vrabel. Like, we almost didn't want to touch this story, but it's everywhere. And I mean, the story, not touching, like, touching the story.

• 1:11Speaker 03

  There's already someone touching Mike Vrabel.

• 1:13Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right, there's a lot of touching going on there, apparently a lot of weird pictures. And apparently, even the kid was named Michael. You know, I don't know if it's named after Vrabel or not. Lot of weird stuff over there. It's tough when it's a coach. You know, it's a player, it's one thing, when it's a coach, it's confusing. Remember when Derek Fisher had the scandal as a coach? And you're like, dude, you're the friggin' coach, right? Like, you're not the player, but the coach. You're supposed to coach the player, so...

• 1:37Speaker 03

  Not a game, not a game! And flipped this car on the Ventura freeway in the process, in the middle of that.

• 1:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, that's a whole different story.

• 1:44Speaker 03

  It was in the middle of the scandal.

• 1:45Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, you know the story with Kobe? They would say Kobe would keep his wife away from Derek Fisher because he knew how Derek was with Matt Barnes's wife. Kobe specifically kept his wife away from Derek Fisher because of how Derek Fisher was and the reputation he had. He would always find ways to get around, what do you call it, Matt Barnes's wife? And look at them now, yeah.

• 2:06Speaker 03

  Well, speaking of the Patriots, keep your... A hundred miles an hour on the LA freeways for 90 minutes to get to Derek Fisher and to pound him into the ground. Remember this?

• 2:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, I do.

• 2:15Speaker 03

  I was gonna say, keep your kids or your grandkids away from the former coach of the...

• 2:20Tom Ellsworth?

  New England Patriots because he, he likes him young.

• 2:23Patrick Bet-David?

  He likes him young, yeah. That was supposed to be funny. That was supposed to be funny, but like Tom's joke didn't land. So Tom, you can take shots at Adam today. When my joke don't land, I just look to the right now. So. Historical facts here. DeSantis invited Hakeem Jeffries to Florida. You have to find out why because they're talking crap back to each other, back and forth. Trump said to shoot down any of these guys that are landing mines in, putting mines in the Strait of Hormuz. We'll, we'll talk about that. Starbucks is moving headquarters to Tennessee. And Tom is furious. He's not happy about it. Tom walked in today. Pissed. I think with a little bit of an attitude, a little bit of an edge. He kicked the door open.

• 3:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep your frustration outside of this property and we may have to send him home today. Spain. I'm sorry. Incredible, incredible thing going on in Spain. 500,000 new customers came in. Some call it migrants. But 500,000 new customers showed up. New recruits. You should see the video. You should see the video, what it looks like. And then the folks in Madrid, the state, part of Spain, Madrid, they're like, look, we're not with this. What are you doing? They're trying to fight it. But the Spaniard leader who's a socialist progressive says, no, these people deserve a chance. Let them come to our society. You know, they're more important than you are. We should do that. And then there's this video that went viral all over the last couple of days of immigration, what's going on with Europe.

• 3:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie has that and will definitely show that. And then what else do we have here? Calci congressional candidates, there's a clip of the president being asked, so what do you think about this special forces guy that bet on Polly markets? Knowing before you guys were going to get Maduro. He says, well, what side was he betting on?

• 4:13Patrick Bet-David?

  He said, was he betting that we were gonna get him? Or was he betting that we weren't gonna get him? He says, no, he was betting. So kinda like Pete Rose, he was betting for himself. It's a problem if you're not. Bet on yourself. Can you imagine it's like, we're gonna get the Scott over my dead body? I'm proud of this guy, but we'll play that clip. We'll play that clip. And then the scientist, terrible tragic story, Amy Eskridge. Elon's got some stuff the scientist to show. Very interesting. And Ilhan Omar, just a rough week, man. People been going to tour, you know, asking her questions and her, you can see her temper. I don't have to do shit, is what I don't have to do. She cursed? Oh, yeah. Well, she cursed. That's her wrong, guys. That's her wrong. I'm gonna call her out on that.

• 4:56Patrick Bet-David?

  And Ilhan Omar, they made a minor, you know, people make minor mistakes. It's not a big deal. They made a $30 million minor accounting mistake. Some people do that every day, which is not worth it. I stole it fair and square. Yeah, we'll see. Tom, that's flirting with like, you know, pump the brakes. Marco Rubio said, Iran's soccer players can come in the World Cup and play, but the government IRGC is not invited. By the way, it's gonna be interesting what happens there. Can you imagine like IRGC is gonna say, they can't, we can't come? They're not coming. I don't, I don't know how that's gonna play out. But the world is watching. And for some of you guys that wanna get World Cup tickets, you can find tickets on 10 Pro. Very reasonable price, $2.3 million. And we'll give you the link if you guys wanna buy 10, 20 tickets.

• 5:40Patrick Bet-David?

  It's just $2.3 million right now. Wow. $150 million, they wouldn't use to beat that. It's not, buddy. It isn't. No problem if you own a hospice in LA. Yeah. If you, if you work at Meta or Microsoft, Meta's apparently letting go of 10% their employees. And I think Microsoft is letting go of 7% their employees. And if you're part of Meta, 8% or Microsoft, 7% and you're a great engineer, reach out to us, cuz we need engineers desperately. Go to vt.com/careers. Go to vt.com/careers. Come to Florida, you'll fall in love with this place. If you're an engineer there, we are hiring aggressively. And then we got a couple other stories to get into, which we will, cuz. You know, it all depends on time. Today's Friday, so we're gonna have a little bit of fun together as well.

• 6:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I got a, I got a clip to show you about borders that is so funny. That event, this girl does a phenomenal job. It was so funny that the guy had nothing to say. He had to pause for forty-five seconds. She kept asking him, you're gonna love the video. Having said that, we got some news here today. Last time we did this, it moved very, very fast.

• 6:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, we have two hundred signed hats from the PBD Podcast, and here's what we're doing. Most, those of you that buy the hats, you know about it. Those of you that don't buy the hats, you don't know, but we probably have a good eighty different selections of hats from Value Tainment, Future Looks Bright, Faith Over Fear. You know, uh, PBD Podcast. So here's what we're doing today. Uh, Rob, if you wanna play this clip, actually before playing the clip, you order four hats, okay? Any of the four hats that we have on our selection on VTmerch.com. And you have to make sure you add the four hats as well as the signed hat. That's the way you get the signed hat. If you buy all the four hats together, Rob, the bundle is two hundred dollars for a total of five hats with one of them being signed. So with that being said,

• 7:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, go ahead and play this clip with all the videos that we have with the incredible actor that's in the video. Go ahead.

• 7:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Good-looking guy.

• 7:44Speaker 05

  Look at that stud.

• 7:55Speaker 05

  Look at that, VT.

• 7:56Patrick Bet-David?

  That's good right there. That was good.

• 7:58Speaker 05

  Yeah. That's sunny.

• 8:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Then it's up dancing right now.

• 8:15Speaker 06

  I stopped working here, watch it.

• 8:22Speaker 06

  That's Tom.

• 8:25Speaker 06

  Tom just tweaked the voice.

• 8:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know who it is. I just know we have the license for the song.

• 8:31Patrick Bet-David?

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• 9:14Patrick Bet-David?

  the order for yourself, your wife, your kids, your son, your husband, give it to them as gifts, or have different ways to wear hats, you've got many different selections. With that being said, let's get right into it. First story, which one do we want to go with? Do we want to start off, let's just start off with California, Rob. Go to Katie Porter, this debate's taking place, it's very important because they don't even know who's going to be the governor. And the most difficult thing to be in this situation is the following thing, is when they're asking you, Rob, is this the Katie Porter clip? Uh, yes. Okay, so when they're asking you, hey, you're a liberal, you're a Democrat, you're running for governor, and they're asking you to defend Newsom's record, how do you

• 9:53Patrick Bet-David?

  do it? That maneuvering is super difficult. Here's Katie Porter, someone I think is made for TV, she's fantastic. She's asked about Newsom's record on homelessness, listen to the answer, but more importantly, listen to the rebuttal from Steve Hilton, go ahead.

• 10:11Speaker 07

  If you were in my class, Mr. Hilton, you would learn in my bankruptcy and consumer protection class that the majority of homeless people in California are actually working. They're not just people on the streets. It's not just people with mental illness or people with drug or substance use problems. It's also families who are fleeing intimate partner and domestic violence. It's people who are double and tripled up. It's people who are living in their cars on our college campuses.

• 10:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, I'm not interested in this shtick. I want to know when she gives the grade. There's a clip of her saying the grade. That's why I want to get it. Go for it.

• 10:43Speaker 03

  You give him on homelessness and what, if anything, would you do differently? You have 60 seconds.

• 10:49Speaker 07

  I'm a notoriously tough grader, but I would probably give him a B on homelessness. I don't think this is a very easy problem to solve, but I do give him a lot of credit for calling attention to the problem. When he campaigned eight years ago, he was talking about housing when nobody else was. Wow. By the way, I'd love to be in your class, Katie, if you get a B for what Gavin Newsom's done on homelessness. My goodness.

• 11:11Patrick Bet-David?

  What grade? What do you think about that? How do you handle that situation? When you got somebody, you have to defend his position or not defend the position. What's the right answer if you're Katie Porter, Elon?

• 11:22Speaker 03

  I think Democrats, you know, Katie Porter, is a perfect example of just dive into the insanity. There's no accountability anyway. It doesn't matter. I ran away from California because of, this was part of the reason, there were people going to the bathroom on the streets near my house and like shooting up. It's just decayed so far. So you don't have an option. You either dive into the insanity, the delusion, and just hope that people follow along or, because that's just an incredible...

• 11:47Patrick Bet-David?

  What choice do you, like, do you answer and say, honestly, I wish he would have done more? There's a lot of things he did right in the state of California, and there's some things that he didn't do right. He did not do the homelessness right. I'd probably give him a D plus. I think I would expect an answer like that.

• 12:01Speaker 06

  I like, I like that. I like that because it's like, you're going to jump ship because it like, the proof isn't, the words talk, numbers scream. They're screaming 26, how much money did they spend? $26 billion? And more homeless like happened? Like, I don't understand her defending this position.

• 12:17Patrick Bet-David?

  How important you think this one issue is? Remember, two Democrats, not Republicans, because we know where the Republicans are going to be at and the independents. How important you think to the Democrats that they will never publicly say they vote Republican? What do you think homelessness is on the list of Democrats who are reasonable Democrats in a state of California, Tom? There are four Californias. The first is the Bay Area. The second is Los

• 12:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Los Angeles and Orange County, which is two sides of the same metropolis, but Orange County, very different, and then San Diego, and then the inland state. In LA, LA, everybody on both sides of the aisle are deeply concerned about homelessness. You want to know why? Because it's out in front of everybody's front yard. You're Democrat, Republican, but Dems tend to not push back on that when they're in the voting booth. They're very reluctant to pull back. That's why you have another Democrat socialist leading the polling for mayor of Los Angeles. And let me step back real quick, Pat. Since Swalwell came out, we have this debate last night. Hilton is at 20%. That's a Republican.

• 13:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Becerra is at 15% and Steyer is at 15%. So those are the two Democrats. So it looks like Becerra has picked up all of the, like 70% of the Swalwell support. Makes sense, Pat? So now you have Steyer and Becerra, and it appears that Porter, that she's sitting there at 10%. It looks like she's fading a little bit, and then last night there, it didn't look good. But what I think, I think what's going to happen in the voting booth, you have overwhelming support in the voting bill on all citizens for two issues in California, and that is the economy and homelessness. And homelessness is big. It's less of an issue in the Bay Area, but it is a giant issue to the voters in LA and

• 14:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Orange County especially. Adam? I'm just surprised that we're using the word homelessness in California, because we all know in California, it's the unhoused. Come on, guys. Let's have a little respect here. But the point is this, California, remember the scene in White Man Jump? It's like, you'd rather look good and lose than look bad and win. The difference between what's going on in California is all they're doing is like, remember when you were a kid, you would just kind of like pretend to eat your veggies and move it onto this side of the plate, then move it on this? All they're doing is sort of like manufacturing this caring about what's going on in the California economy. They're trying to win this election and become the next. Governor of California who does nothing.

• 14:53Tom Ellsworth?

  And the reason I say does nothing is because if you look at Gavin Newsom's record on anything, tell me, what has he accomplished?

• 15:00Speaker 03

  Spent a ton of money.

• 15:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Tell me, what is he accomplished?

• 15:03Speaker 06

  He knows how to spend money on a lot of it.

• 15:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, he's got good hair. Great. What else? 62 more feet of the rail. He spent $23 billion on fixing homelessness initiatives and homelessness has only got worse. Whatever's going on in California is sort of indicative of what's going on in the Democratic Party. Their entire identity is just attached to the hip of, "We oppose Trump." They're not getting anything done, so they're just on stage trying to basically manufacture who's going to be the best governor, when it's none of them is the answer. Vote for Republicans.

• 15:34Speaker 06

  I just hope, because this is a Democrat, Democrat, they're trying to figure out who's going to be the Democrat leader, they don't care. And you make a good point, Adam, it's just whatever Trump, because they're going to attach everything, Pat, Republican, everything, Trump, same thing, cut from the same club, that's going to be the talking point. She had an opportunity, right here, I don't care who you are, left or right, to look in the camera and go, "F."

• 15:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 15:55Speaker 06

  "F." This guy is abysmal.

• 15:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 15:57Speaker 06

  I don't care about the party, he has destroyed this freaking state, it's a laughing stock. He's a laughing stock because all he cares about is Donald Trump. And she could even say, "I'm not a fan of Trump either," but she missed that moment, Adam, to just take that stand and be like, "You know what? He's horrible. I'm going to do the complete opposite." Because everybody's incentivized to keep these homeless going. You know what I mean?

• 16:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, of course.

• 16:19Speaker 06

  All the money keeps going around, Elon, to come back to their pockets and the money's not going anywhere. It's fraud.

• 16:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, think about what she said. Think about what she said. She's a tough grader.

• 16:28Speaker 06

  Yeah, what does it take to get a C?

• 16:30Tom Ellsworth?

  And he got a B.

• 16:31Speaker 06

  How does one get a C, Dan?

• 16:32Tom Ellsworth?

  If she was an easy grader, he'd have an A. Those homeless encampments, if she was an easy grader, an A. Makes no sense. And she gave her husband a P for potatoes. Whoa. So here's what strategy was going on stage there. You make a great point.

• 16:47Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 16:48Tom Ellsworth?

  How can she look in the camera and be so disingenuous? And, and that's it. Here's why. Because the Democrat big vault that holds the money that she's going to be using to run.

• 16:58Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 16:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Part of what she raises, part of it does. If she attacks Newsom on that.

• 17:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:03Tom Ellsworth?

  She's giving Hilton momentum.

• 17:06Speaker 03

  Very good.

• 17:06Tom Ellsworth?

  On that, on that policy point. So, and so, and so she's not going to do it because she doesn't have to defeat Gavin Newsom in the primary. She has to defeat Xavier Becerra in the primary and be one of the top two.

• 17:17Speaker 03

  Got you.

• 17:17Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what's going on and they're not going to pick on each other.

• 17:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Did Becerra answer the question, Rob? What did Becerra say?

• 17:23Tom Ellsworth?

  He gave her, uh, he gave Newsom an A. I'll find that.

• 17:25Speaker 03

  Oh, my gosh.

• 17:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, that's even worse, see?

• 17:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but that's good. The reason why I say that's good is because to the Democrats, that helps who? That helps Katie. See, I'm not worried about the, so this, this is how I process the election in California, Tom. I'm not looking at converting 100% the Democrats. I'm looking at which one of the candidates is going to get the 10, 15 reasonable Democrats that are sick and tired of Democrats that are willing to risk having a Republican for one term to see how it turns out. And the fact that Becerra said he'd give an A and Katie gave a B, to me, Katie wins in that debate. In that specific topic. Because me as a Democrat, I'm walking outside. Homelessness everywhere. I'm afraid for my kids to go play outside.

• 18:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm going to be like, that guy gave an A? That guy gave, she gave a B? I don't know who the hell she is, but guess what? I'm not going to vote Republican for the rest of my life, but I would much rather. So that helps Katie. But both of them pushed that 15% reasonable Democrats away to Hilton. That's all I care about. Anyways, let's go to the next story.

• 18:31Tom Ellsworth?

  What grade would you give Gavin Newsom? If you were going to give him.

• 18:34Patrick Bet-David?

  An F, an F. It's not even, because the plus minus, everything with me is plus minus. Uh, every number you ever get judged on to see whether you're doing good or bad is your plus minus number. And what is a plus minus number? Say Tom's always been a straight C student. And he goes from being a straight C student to a straight B student. What's the plus minus?

• 18:54Tom Ellsworth?

  He's gone up 20%.

• 18:56Patrick Bet-David?

  He's gone up, he's gone up one grade.

• 18:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 18:58Patrick Bet-David?

  On all, okay, great. Say Vinny's a 3A, 3B student, okay? And historically, he's been like that for three years. And Vinny goes to straight Bs. What happened to Vinny?

• 19:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, he went down.

• 19:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Who am I celebrating?

• 19:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:12Tom Ellsworth?

  This guy who's improving, this guy who's basically coasting.

• 19:15Patrick Bet-David?

  In life and business, politics, anything, it's your plus minus number. And Newsom's plus minus number are horrible. When did Newsom become the governor of the state of California, Rob? And can you find out what homelessness was in the state of California then and what it is now? You will see it's nearly doubled, if not up 60%. So his plus minus is negative 60%. That is an F. There's no place in the world that you're gonna get an A, a B, a C, or a D with that kind of a grade. Newsom deserves an F. That's what he deserves. Nothing more, nothing less. And I hope the 15% Democrats in California will give Steve Hilton or somebody else. Was Bianco on the stage as well, Rob?

• 19:58Speaker 03

  I believe he was.

• 19:59Patrick Bet-David?

  He was also on the, okay, let's, let's look at that, Rob, if you had it. Take a look at this.

• 20:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Prior to COVID?

• 20:03Patrick Bet-David?

  When he took office, I don't know what it was. So look at that right there, from 151,000 people to 187,000 people in 2024. We don't even know what the numbers, look at the plus minus.

• 20:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Geez.

• 20:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Plus 36,000 people, minus 23% of the population. Per capita, it went from .4 to .48. Yeah, that's an F. There's no way, you know, to measure to give this guy an A.

• 20:27Speaker 03

  And that percentage, that percentage of the population is in densely populated regions, meaning you're looking at all of California, but the homelessness has increased in specific cities tremendously. So it's a much more significant number.

• 20:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, investors gave you $24 billion to fix a big problem.

• 20:45Patrick Bet-David?

  You wasted your investors' money of $24 billion and you didn't fix the problem. Do you think those investors should come back and keep giving you money?

• 20:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Hell, no.

• 20:55Patrick Bet-David?

  That's how to look at it. The investors in this situation are who's?

• 20:58Tom Ellsworth?

  The taxpayers.

• 20:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's the entrepreneur, the leader here? The operator. Newsom.

• 21:03Tom Ellsworth?

  But he's a politician, he's not an operator. I know you want to move on, I think this is important. You know my stance on California. Don't care. I don't mean this literally. Let it burn. Everyone come to Florida. Create a state in the country.

• 21:13Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 21:13Tom Ellsworth?

  But what I do care about California is Gavin Newsom is the front rotor for the Democratic Party. And when he becomes this mainstream candidate, I don't want people to forget, look at the horrible job he did in California. So whether it's Katie Porter or Steve Hilton. My question is this. What should the average voter who generally doesn't care about California, take from this story to remember if and when Gavin Newsom is the candidate?

• 21:38Patrick Bet-David?

  So let me give you an idea. I had Dominic Targinsky on the other day. You, a parliament member who, no, from EU, but he's from Poland. Yes, from EU, but he's Poland. Poland. So you know what I did? I went out there and I said, let me get some stuff about Poland on what makes Poland great. And I said, why are you guys not talking about this 24/7? And let me explain to you what I pulled up about Poland. Rob, you remember this? Just, when you look at the stats of what Poland, if I read this to you, you're gonna ask yourself, this is crazy. This, is this gonna come up or should I go through? Look at this. You ready? GDP growth in Poland grew 3%, EU 1.1%, okay?

• 22:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Unemployment in Poland, 3%, EU 5.9%, meaning Poland's unemployment is half of EU's. GDP grew 170% since 04. Poland has the lowest crime, Adam, you ready? Not in EU, in the world.

• 22:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 22:33Patrick Bet-David?

  In the world, EU, lowest crime. That's what they brag about, okay? Homicide rate, it's a half per 100,000 homicide rate. Possibly lowest out of all Western countries, okay? Labor market absorption, refugees, 69% of employment rate for them. Foreign direct investment, 2.2% versus. 1.5 for EU. I can go on and on with that. Now let me give you crazier things that EU does, that Poland does. Which is gonna sound a little weird for you, but I'm gonna read it to you. Mandatory ID laws, okay? You are required to carry an ID and show to police upon request. In America, that's not a federal law. Hell, you can vote in 15, 16 states without even an ID, right?

• 23:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Drinking in public places is often illegal unless designated. Okay, Sunday trading, uh, trading restrictions. Retail stores on Sunday, all closed. You know who's open? Gas stations and churches. It's the only place you can go to buy something. Let me continue. Strong restriction on sex education. There is no sex education to minors in Poland.

• 23:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Great.

• 23:37Patrick Bet-David?

  There is no sex education to minors in Poland. You send your kids to school? They can't teach your kids anything about sex education, right? You'll see where I'm going with this. No same-sex marriage, definitely no same-sex adoption.

• 23:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Marriage in Poland?

• 23:49Patrick Bet-David?

  No same-sex marriage, no same-sex adoption. Adoption. There's only like six countries in the world that have that. Christian countries, Romania is one of them. It's not that big of a list. Illegal to promote totalitarian ideologies. You promote Nazism, Communism, other totalitarian systems, you're arrested.

• 24:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Illegal to promote totalitarian philosophies?

• 24:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Blasphemy is a criminal offense if you publicly insult any religion or religious symbols. You can't do it. It's a fine or two years in prison. Now you read this and a person may say what? That is extreme. You know what I told Dominique to do? I said, "You guys should put this on a page and promote it everywhere."

• 24:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Like the Ten Commandments of Poland?

• 24:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell the world, and by the way, you know how mu- you know how much, uh, tor- foreign tourists they got last year? What do you think the number is for Poland?

• 24:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Total, like, tourists that come in?

• 24:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Tourism, tourists coming to Poland, not within the state movement, foreign coming in. What do you think the number is? Just take a wild guess. What do you think it is?

• 24:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Couple million.

• 24:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, to tell you, Croatia, Dubrovnik gets like, uh, 4 million a year. What do you think theirs is?

• 24:51Tom Ellsworth?

  10?

• 24:52Patrick Bet-David?

  28 million!

• 24:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Stop it!

• 24:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Twenty-six to twenty-eight million to Poland because it's so safe.

• 24:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's go.

• 25:00Patrick Bet-David?

  People think it's beautiful, safe, and so what's the point?

• 25:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 25:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Whoever on the Republican Party, RNC, whatever it is, create a one-liner of every single one of Newsom's failures and put it on repeat, blast it, promote it everywhere, starting now. Don't wait. It needs to be fed to everybody.

• 25:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Right.

• 25:21Patrick Bet-David?

  How many things this guy failed in? Because anything is reaffirmed over and over and over again. Eventually, people are gonna be like, what the hell am I gonna do with a guy like this? So to me-

• 25:29Tom Ellsworth?

  No results is what you're saying.

• 25:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I think you have to put his resume on blast from the-

• 25:33Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree.

• 25:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, a hundred percent. That's the solution. Just don't let people forget the failures.

• 25:37Patrick Bet-David?

  If you got good, promote it. If you got bad, enemy, promote it. This is a part you have to-

• 25:42Tom Ellsworth?

  I fully agree.

• 25:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Promote the opposite with them. Hopefully, they will, we will see. Let me get to the next story. President Trump comes out. Rob, do you have this with the Lebanon and Israel? Yes. He comes out saying Israel-Lebanon ceasefire to be extended by three weeks. Okay? By three weeks. And he said, maybe they even like each other. Rob, is this the clip you were talking about? Yes, sir. Go for it.

• 26:01Speaker 00

  Well, thank you very much. And I'm told this is a rather historic meeting because these countries have been bordering each other for many, many years and it doesn't happen much, although they like each other. I found that out today and I've sort of heard about that. They actually like each other, Lebanon and Israel. And we had a great meeting with the very high officials of Lebanon and very high officials of Israel. And we think that

• 26:29Speaker 00

  the President of Lebanon and the Prime Minister of Israel over the next couple of weeks will be coming here. They've agreed to an additional three weeks of, I guess, no firing, ceasefire, no more firing. Let's see. We hope that happens. It's not gonna happen between them, but they do have Hezbollah to think about.

• 26:49Speaker 02

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• 27:19Speaker 06

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• 27:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, Alon, where do you stand with this?

• 27:52Speaker 03

  I think Trump's hilarious, number one, saying that they like each other. Look, do I think in the future that there's a possibility that Lebanon, once you, you know, have a decay of Hezbollah, that they form better relations with Israel? I would love for that to happen. But not right now. So I think the, you know, look, I think it shows Trump has actual tremendous influence in the region, over Israel. You know, as much as people say, "Israel's controlling the United States," here you have an example where, once again, Trump pushed for Israel to do something, and they listened, they abided. And I think, deep down, Trump is, you know, this is gonna sound weird, Trump came in hoping to create more stability and peace in the region. I think, in his own weird way, he's actually accomplishing it. I would really like to see more stability between Lebanon and Israel.

• 28:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom? Well, Bibi Netanyahu has never been the easiest guy for US presidents to deal with, at all. And you've seen, you've heard things from Trump, you know, "Hey, we liked a couple of the guys, but they killed them," sort of signaling there is maybe not-perfect alignment there with the, with battle plans and stuff. And I think what he's talking about here, I think, behind closed doors, you know, some diplomacy got done, and I think they got some progress here. Because if it is truly a three-week ceasefire, to put in, to put some accords in place, that's good for the innocent citizens that are all over Lebanon, the Christian citizens that are there that have nobody representing them. You know, rockets in the morning, go to the south toward Israel, rockets in the afternoon,

• 29:18Tom Ellsworth?

  go to the north toward Lebanon, and I'm underneath both of them, right? So I think some diplomacy got done, and I think it is kind of funny. They've been neighbors for many years. Yeah, they've always been neighbors.

• 29:32Tom Ellsworth?

  They just moved in five years ago. Oh, you're moving in. Oh, hi, welcome. But to come back and say, you know, hey, they like each other. They do like each other. I think he's trying to put out an olive branch there and he's trying to put a message, Pat. Yeah. And I think it's positive. Adam. Look, I think at the end of the day, people are sick and tired of fighting wars. Every single day, every single year, every single decade since 1948 in that region. And then again, since 1979, I think people of Lebanon are sick and tired of their country being hijacked by Iran. The whole conversation about, you know, Israel controls America. Okay, show me some proof, not just some BS. But you know who actually controls Lebanon? Iran.

• 30:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Because what did they used to call Lebanon many, many decades ago? The Paris of the Middle East. When's the last time you heard that? Now it's the Iran of the Middle East, just not the Gulf side of things. The people of Lebanon, and I have a lot of friends that are Lebanese. We have a friend here who's Lebanese. You know who they hate more than Israel, the IDF? Hezbollah. So, you know, we talked about the other day, you said 80% of this conversation you had with Kiriyaku, where he was just plain wrong. He said, he said, he said 80 to 90% of people of Iran are sick and tired of the IRGC. Follow the numbers, follow the money. It's the exact same thing going on in Lebanon.

• 31:00Tom Ellsworth?

  And here's the last point, speaking of follow the money and stability through strength. If you look at your neighbors, right, in the Golan Heights, whatever's covering Lebanon, Syria, that area. If you look over, you look at Israel, 50 years ago, the economy wasn't that great. They weren't a capitalist society. Now you look over from Lebanon, you look over from Syria. Israel is one of the greatest economic booms we've ever seen, especially in the Middle East. Israel is the Silicon Valley. of the Middle East and you're in Iran, sorry, and you're in Lebanon and you're in Syria and you're Gaza and you're looking over and you're like, these damn Jews, what did they do? It's like they just worked, earned, saved and invested where you're trying to build terror tunnels.

• 31:45Tom Ellsworth?

  They're building capitalist cities and I think the good people of Lebanon, who are some of the worst on the misery index, unemployment and inflation are like, can we just have a normal fricking life? And not fight every single day of our life?

• 31:58Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 31:58Tom Ellsworth?

  And have a good society for our kids to grow up in? Let's do it. And that's, I think cooler heads.

• 32:02Speaker 06

  I think in regard to the ceasefire, great. Anytime there's people not dying is amazing. I just, and I keep going back to, what is, what is victory going to be? Cause I don't think the, like where, you have to get rid of the terrorists. Okay. So that'll, it'll be a good three weeks. Hopefully it lasts, but it will never end. It'll never end, Pat. I guess they already took 20% of the land. But my thing is terrorists, they're always going to be there. So that, that will never stop.

• 32:30Speaker 03

  Well, but Israel has shown it's willing to concede land in exchange for true peace. And it's every time it's done that, it's either like I've talked about in the past, it's either been met with sadly retaliation that backfired, or it's been met with sustainable peace when the other side actually wants it. So Israel has come forward many times. Also, I do believe, you know, deep down that the Lebanese Christian population wants better relations.

• 32:49Speaker 06

  Of course.

• 32:50Speaker 03

  A hundred percent.

• 32:51Speaker 06

  Of course they do.

• 32:52Speaker 03

  And, and Adam's a hundred percent right that there's a great tragedy in the Middle East, not just in Lebanon, but across the Middle East in general, where there's been a decay of all this opportunity, tons of natural resources, tons of culture, tons of history. These are places that tourists would love to visit. And yet because of extremism, which is a fundamental issue across the board in the region, there's a, there's a complete decay of virtually every single country, Lebanon, Gaza. Sorry, I'll let you go, Tom.

• 33:18Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I'm not, I'm agreeing. I'm nodding in agreement.

• 33:21Speaker 06

  Well, cause I, what I want to ask you though, what, what is victory in regard to, cause those extremists are there. By the way, they're not going anywhere. They're multiplying. I'm just trying, like I, I'm trying to be hopeful.

• 33:31Speaker 03

  Yeah. Victory looks.

• 33:32Speaker 06

  How do you win?

• 33:33Tom Ellsworth?

  It's hard to pull the weeds out of the garden.

• 33:34Speaker 03

  Victory looks like a complete cultural shift, not just in one region, but across the region. You see it in UAE, you see it in a lot of the. They are trying to come back to the table and say there's a way forward where we can integrate with Western societies and see growth in our populations. You know why? Because they're putting a priority for growth, prosperity, and the benefit of their people over religion. Yet in a lot of these other countries and what Iran's motivation is and what Hezbollah's motivation is and Hamas, they've indicated not to only Israel, not to only the entire world, but to their own people, we don't care about you. Our priority is destruction. So there, you know, sometimes if you're, if you're enemy, or if you're the person you're trying to negotiate with, it's starting from the fundamental point of I want to destroy you no matter what.

• 34:18Speaker 03

  It's very hard. You're asking an impossible question because that's their starting point. So Hezbollah is the problem.

• 34:25Speaker 06

  And I'm not debating that. I'm just saying like, how do you, like it's not, but here's my question. Do you think it's gonna stop? I do. How do you get rid of extremists that are everywhere?

• 34:34Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you get rid of that in America? No, no, but you're asking a very weird question because to me, okay, how do you get rid of alcoholics?

• 34:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead. How do you get rid of alcoholics? So many people driving drunk on the 95 freeway, right here, by the way. This exit is number one, most people dying in car accidents, right here, 95 in Cypress. It's the number one place in America on freeways of the most fatalities driving this right.

• 35:04Speaker 03

  Stop it. Right here, two blocks away?

• 35:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's a question for you. How do you get rid of alcoholics, alcohol, drinking and driving? How do you do that?

• 35:15Speaker 03

  I mean, you can't stop people from drinking.

• 35:18Patrick Bet-David?

  So what?

• 35:20Speaker 03

  You can't stop people from, I mean, you want to get people help. You want people to talk to them. You want to put them in AA.

• 35:24Patrick Bet-David?

  People to stop using cocaine?

• 35:27Speaker 03

  Stop putting it in the country. Stop getting cocaine in the country. Stop letting people bring it over the borders. And just stop getting it here and then people will stop if they can't get it here.

• 35:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Will people still find a way to get cocaine?

• 35:37Speaker 03

  Yes, absolutely.

• 35:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Will people still find a way to get alcohol, prohibition, you know, make it illegal, all that? Will they still find a way to do it?

• 35:44Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 35:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course. So why though? Cause what's gonna be constant forever? What will be constant?

• 35:51Speaker 03

  Human.

• 35:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Human beings. As long as we have human beings, what do we have? We have conflict.

• 35:57Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 35:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Conflict is never going away. Now here's a question though. Can we, should we just say, well, nothing's gonna happen, let's just not do anything?

• 36:05Speaker 06

  Right.

• 36:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Cause what kind of a mindset is that to say something like that? Or can we say, can we find a way to decrease it by 2%? Can we find a way to decrease it by 4%? Can we find a way to decrease it by 10%? Yes, we can. And so we're in pursuit of that, right? In, in, in, in your family, if you think about it in your family, does, do divorces happen? Yes. Do, does domestic violence happen?

• 36:30Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 36:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes. Do people filing bankruptcy happen? Yes. Do people overextending themselves financially happen? All of those things are what? Yes.

• 36:40Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 36:40Speaker 03

  Reality.

• 36:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Should we say, well, people are never gonna stop doing that, so let's just not even do anything about it? No.

• 36:45Speaker 06

  No.

• 36:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I think the effort is to try to pursue to decrease. And all you can deal with is, who are the leaders today? That's all you can deal with. You cannot deal with who the leaders are gonna be tomorrow. Whose son is gonna take over one day and be the leader? You know, you have to figure out a way to find a way to make things better today. And, and, and this is purely for the reasonable players, not the emotional players. You have to decide which one you are. You're either part of the emotional community, or you're part of the reasonable community. The emotional community just wants emotions. The reasonable community wants to find solutions. It's not easy, it's annoying, it's boring, it's, it's, it's easier to say, nothing will ever change.

• 37:30Patrick Bet-David?

  How, how dramatically, how better you think your mom sleeps today than she did four years ago?

• 37:35Speaker 06

  A lot better.

• 37:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do you think?

• 37:37Speaker 06

  Because I've changed.

• 37:38Patrick Bet-David?

  So.

• 37:39Speaker 06

  My life and.

• 37:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me her peace of mind with you right now.

• 37:42Speaker 06

  Oh, her peace of mind knows that I'm surrounded about people that, that care about me and love me. I've, I've kicked any, anything that was in my life that was trying to destroy me with, you know, drinking, or, or, or partying, or any of that stuff. I've turned myself to Christ and everything's.

• 37:56Patrick Bet-David?

  How much better do you sleep?

• 37:57Speaker 06

  A lot better.

• 37:58Patrick Bet-David?

  What if we said it's Vinnie? Vinnie's always gonna be like that.

• 38:01Speaker 06

  Bingo.

• 38:02Patrick Bet-David?

  What if we said Vinnie's always gonna be like that?

• 38:04Speaker 06

  Meaning?

• 38:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Meaning Vinnie's never gonna change. Vinnie's a womanizer, alcoholic, drunk, just wants to do, that's Vinnie. What if people said that? What if people accepted that? It's not leadership. It's saying no. What if he chooses to change? What if he chooses to make an improvement? What that, what happens to the world? What happens to his mother? What happens to Vinnie? It opens it up. I'm a regular guy. I'm not a guy that went to, uh, what do you call it? A Ivy League or nothing. I didn't even go to regular state's college. They wouldn't take me there. I barely made it into community college and community college, they let anybody in. So what happened? Somebody believed. And it was minor progress. So to me, I like the fact

• 38:47Patrick Bet-David?

  that we're working on making minor progress. The part you have to realize, Vinnie, is the hardest thing to do. Do you know what eventually gets, um,

• 38:58Patrick Bet-David?

  what, what content do you think is more exciting to consume? Divisiveness? Nasty? Calling out? Versus somebody that's going out there talking about how to improve your life, better your life, you can make a change? What do you think gets more eyeballs?

• 39:15Speaker 06

  The, well, the drama stuff is always gonna be the one.

• 39:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Tony Robbins tried to have a TV show. You know how long it lasted? Two or three episodes. NBC. Type in Tony Robbins NBC show. How long did it last? You know why?

• 39:25Speaker 06

  Positive, yeah.

• 39:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Cause he was positive. Now, look at Jerry Springer. How long did Jerry Springer last?

• 39:29Speaker 06

  It would still be going if he could pass away.

• 39:31Patrick Bet-David?

  How long? Because people, look how many episodes he did. Only airing two. Tony Robbins, who's changed millions of people's lives, goes and does a show with NBC, it lasts two episodes. Until they're like, people are not interested in positive stuff. Yeah, people like drama. People want drama, negativity, conflict, change, all this stuff. So, so if you can find a way to be part of the community to say, you know what? I think we can do something about it. Great. I think we need more of that. You know, cause, cause the, the world today is so, I'm telling you. You go on Twitter and you ask yourself, how long can you be on X? If you go on, if you, you know, I'm willing to bet to do this. Put a blood pressure machine that's constantly running on you. And I would love to do it on 20 different people.

• 40:16Patrick Bet-David?

  And put him on different platforms. Go on Twitter and go up and read the stories, news feed. See what happens to your blood pressure 10, 20, 30 minutes later.

• 40:25Speaker 03

  I did this to myself, by the way.

• 40:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you really? Then go watch comedy. Then go read the Bible. Then go read a self-help book. Then go read a business book. See what happens to your blood pressure. The world today is a different world and we have to, we have to be aware of it. But for me, the reasonable players who are trying to make progress, more power to them. The emotional people that are trying to get eyeballs, you do your thing. The market long-term is going to favor who?

• 40:50Tom Ellsworth?

  The reasonable people.

• 40:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Always does that.

• 40:52Tom Ellsworth?

  I fully agree with you, Pat. And if I could just kind of add a little icing on the cake. You're absolutely right. How's it gonna happen? How's it gonna happen? How's it gonna happen? You ask these questions. Well, let's look at some case examples. Look what he did, the guy did, uh, Bukelley in El Salvador. El Salvador was the most dangerous country in the Western Hemisphere a decade ago. And what was the root of their problem? Focus with me now. What was the root of their problem?

• 41:14Speaker 03

  Criminals.

• 41:15Tom Ellsworth?

  MS-13.

• 41:15Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 41:16Tom Ellsworth?

  MS-13 is Hezbollah. They are the cancer in society. Where you have 80, 90% of society, it's like, can we just live a normal life? And not kill each other every day over religious differences or military differences? Can we just do that? And what did he do? He flipped their whole country around. That's hopefully, hopefully what can happen in Lebanon. And why Lebanon, Pat? You would know this? I don't know if there's another society, civilization in the Middle East that has Sunnis, Shiites, Christians, all types of religions, living and working together. And then you have these Shiite radicals saying, nope, we're taking over the country. And this is like, I'm taking my country back? I think the people of Lebanon finally are like, we're done with this.

• 41:59Tom Ellsworth?

  We're taking our country back, and I hope they do.

• 42:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, if you want to run. I just wanted to say to Vinnie also, in terms of being hopeful, when we see a snapshot of something, even though it might be 10 years, 20 years, it feels like forever. It feels like it's never gonna end. But you do see sustainable relations between Israel and other countries in the Middle East that you would have never believed would have happened. The fact that there's sustainable peace.

• 42:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Bahrain, Oman, UAE, Morocco.

• 42:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Even Egypt, back in the day, if you would have looked at the relationship, Jordan and Israel, if you would have looked at the relationship, just the entire Middle East from the start, when the Arab League wanted to destroy all of Israel. I mean.

• 42:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yeah. Well, at the end of the day, it's this. I know you want to move on.

• 42:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 42:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Everyone knows Iran's the bad guy.

• 42:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Hang on, I'm moving on, guys.

• 42:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Iran's the bad guy.

• 42:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let's go through this here. All right, Spain migrants, 500,000 Spain migrants come in. Madrid, the state, comes out, and Madrid says, uh, where's that page, Rob? Let me see. 24. Okay, 24. Madrid government appeals against Spain's mass amnesty for illegal migrants that are coming in. 500,000 people, like, let's take them. Rob, do you have that video of what it looks like? Yes. Okay, let's go through a couple of videos. And Vinnie, I think you've got something here as well. Uh, go ahead, Rob.

• 43:07Patrick Bet-David?

  This is Spain.

• 43:16Speaker 05

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• 43:45Tom Ellsworth?

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• 44:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Looks like fun, I'm not gonna lie.

• 44:23Tom Ellsworth?

  España.

• 44:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Where are they coming from, do we know?

• 44:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Northern Africa.

• 44:28Speaker 06

  Yeah, they said Sub-Saharan Africans coming to Spain.

• 44:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's one of the clips. Is this, uh, what's the other one that you have, Rob?

• 44:39Speaker 06

  Here's a newscast where they're talking about, uh, the migrants overrunning the, and overwhelming the government's system.

• 44:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it. A massive line of immigrants wrapped all the way around this fairground. 500,000. And as you can see now, this is the scene. Most of them are gathered right here inside. They tell us they've been sleeping on the street and tensions have flared, even leading to clashes as no one wanted to lose their spot. This is the space that the city council has set up. Can you imagine that in Spain?

• 45:05Speaker 06

  And this is outside of the foreign registry office where people are getting registered as citizens.

• 45:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 45:20Patrick Bet-David?

  This is crazy. This is Spain.

• 45:22Speaker 06

  Yeah, was.

• 45:23Patrick Bet-David?

  This is Spain.

• 45:23Speaker 06

  Was.

• 45:24Patrick Bet-David?

  This is Spain. This is Spain. Okay. So now, when you look at this, you know, Madrid's government appeals against Spain's mass amnesty. The Supreme Court of Spain on Wednesday accepted an appeal request spearheaded by Isabel Diaz Ayuso, president of the community of Madrid, against a mass amnesty plan for illegal migrants being executed by socialist government of Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez. Miguel Angel Garcia Martin, Minister of Presidency of Madrid, and a local government spokesperson explained on Wednesday press conference that the Madrid government filled the appeal against the mass amnesty decree on grounds that it seriously affects the provision of public services in Madrid without establishing mechanisms for funding and resource allocation.

• 46:08Patrick Bet-David?

  So they're sitting there saying, can you please allow us to have other options? Rob, play that one clip that, uh, Vinnie has, the one that shows...

• 46:16Speaker 06

  You want the EU one first, Matt?

• 46:18Patrick Bet-David?

  The EU one, yeah.

• 46:18Speaker 06

  This is illegal immigrants in the European Union coming in. Guys, each dot, it's 100 people. Each little dot that you guys are gonna see, look at this.

• 46:28Patrick Bet-David?

  That is bonkers.

• 46:29Speaker 06

  Look at that. Look at that freaking... Invasion, bro. Syria, 200,000. Look at the Syria, Morocco. It keeps switching from 2019 and then look. Boom, nine, 10. Look, that's, and remember, each dot is 100.

• 46:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And it's saying where they're coming from. So, go back to the clip to see what the countries are, Rob. Go back and if you can slow down the speed, do me a favor, if you can go to half a speed, yeah. Click on it. So Albania's first, Afghanistan, Morocco, Algeria, then Tunisia comes in, Pakistan bumps in, Afghanistan becomes number one. Where they're coming in from, Syria becomes number one, Eritrea, Iraq becomes three. Look at that. Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq. Syria at the top.

• 47:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Is this all to the EU or to Spain?

• 47:10Speaker 03

  EU, this is bonkers.

• 47:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And do you know where not one went to? Poland.

• 47:16Speaker 03

  Yep. Hungary's also pretty hardcore.

• 47:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Not one went to Poland, just so you know. Tom, your thoughts on this with Spain, half a million, Madrid, what they're talking about, what it's gonna look like? How much is Spain changing forever? Will it ever be the Spain that we went to 10, 20, 30 years ago?

• 47:33Tom Ellsworth?

  No, it's, it's over. And this is what the globalists want. The globalists want to break the back of the Western states. And they want to break the traditions of the Western states, specifically Christianity and Catholicism specifically. Because if you break family and you break the foundation of faith by overwhelming the voters that are no longer voting on the base of those foundations, then by definition, you've broke it. And then what you lose is culture. Culture is lost through dilution. You have more people there and you lose your culture. Number one. And people, "Oh, you're being racist." No, I'm not being racist. There was, you know, it's not racist if you live in Poland and you liked living in Poland

• 48:13Tom Ellsworth?

  and you're Polish and you work there and your kids went to school there and everything works and it's safe and it's a well-run country. What's racist about that? And then, this is what the globalists want. The globalists want to flood it so that they get permanent liberal... See, how do the globalists get stopped, Pat? By patriots. And patriots by definition are conservative-minded in the name of their country, right?

• 48:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Not racist patriots. So here we have patriots that want things to be the same, but guess what? You're you are outnumbered by a permanent voting majority. And that is what the globalists want because they want a globalist government. They want one world government. Elon. They want one world control. That's it.

• 48:59Speaker 03

  Well, I think on Tom's point, there's been a unity between radical leftists and radical Islamists. The question is who's going to win in Europe? It looks like the Islamists are are the ones winning, not the globalists in the end of the day. It's really tragic to see Spain falling to this, one of the most beautiful places in the world. And what you talk about culture and preservation of culture, preservation of them. I don't think it's wrong for a country. And I know this is controversial to say to say we're a majority Christian nation. We want to stay a majority Christian nation. I know that a lot of people are offended by that. I don't have a problem with the Middle East, the countries like Saudi Arabia saying we want to stay majority Muslim. I guarantee you if Christians started pouring into the point of creating a majority Christian nation, they would cut it off pretty fast. But this is the game that leftists play.

• 49:42Speaker 03

  It's we'll accuse you of being a terrible person so you concede to what we want. Meanwhile, migrants are coming in. The rape statistics out of these places are atrocious, atrocious. And like they're trying to cover up for it, cover up for it. It's a game of power at the expense of the population. It's tragic.

• 49:58Speaker 06

  Pat, I want to ask you, make the argument for the people that are letting it happen. The leaders of Spain, the politicians, give me an argument of how they could say, you know, this is good for us. These bolts of people that have nowhere to go, all your taxpayers' money is going to pay for it. What's the argument for them?

• 50:13Patrick Bet-David?

  These poor people, it's our job to take care of them. We can help them out. We have room, we have space. We can figure out a way to support these people. There is nothing wrong with that. You know, we should be able to do this. There's a clip I want to show you, Rob, that that girl who's talking to this guy, who's saying, you can't come here and ask us question. She says, why not? Watch how quickly the hypocrisy comes out. If you can refresh and play it from the beginning, Rob, I want them to see this and then turn on the audio because Instagram has this one thing that you have to see this clip. Watch this.

• 50:45Speaker 02

  Y'all should like get out of here with your signs.

• 50:47Speaker 05

  Oh, you have borders on this campus.

• 50:49Speaker 03

  No, we have this space reserved as an official event.

• 50:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, so you have borders. Where do your, where's your borders at?

• 50:54Speaker 03

  This whole green area right here.

• 50:56Speaker 05

  So you want to control who comes in and out?

• 50:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh huh.

• 50:59Speaker 05

  Like an ICE agent or a border patrol agent?

• 51:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh.

• 51:02Speaker 06

  He has a lobster hat.

• 51:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Now he has no clue what to say.

• 51:04Speaker 05

  I would really encourage you on a rally on a campus, this is an event for sanctuary campuses. You probably shouldn't act like a fascist border patrol agent. You should take down your borders and let whoever wants on the space, okay?

• 51:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Amazing.

• 51:18Speaker 06

  Look at his hat. It's a lobster hat.

• 51:22Speaker 05

  Why is your lip quivering?

• 51:23Speaker 06

  I want to go to Red Lobster now. Cause he got got.

• 51:26Tom Ellsworth?

  He got got.

• 51:26Speaker 05

  Cause you've been called out on how you're acting exactly, like how you don't, what you're advocating against. You're acting just like them.

• 51:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Nothing.

• 51:37Tom Ellsworth?

  This interview's over.

• 51:38Speaker 03

  Cause there's no answer. Nothing. Great hypocrisy to their face.

• 51:41Speaker 05

  Put your money where your mouth is. Leave me alone and let me have sanctuary on this campus, okay?

• 51:46Speaker 06

  We need y'all to. And that's just indoctrinated, they have, like, that's when your brain goes, wait a minute, I'm, what, you don't know what to do.

• 51:55Patrick Bet-David?

  But this is why girls, girls like her, Nick Shirley, what they're doing, Nick's, is it Nick Sorter is the other one?

• 52:01Speaker 06

  Is it Sortor?

• 52:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it Sortor? There's another one, Nick Friedman?

• 52:04Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 52:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, Nick?

• 52:05Tom Ellsworth?

  No, Nate.

• 52:06Speaker 06

  Nate, Nate Friedman.

• 52:07Patrick Bet-David?

  These guys are doing such an important job of going out there, talking to these guys. Uh, Adam, where are you at with this story?

• 52:14Tom Ellsworth?

  So, we're focusing on Spain, but I think we're, you know, there's a bigger picture going on here that we're not discussing. And it's the whole open border to the third world. For wherever you are in the world. So in America, it's shutting down the border, right? And in the EU, it's basically opening up. All the countries to what's going on from the importing the third world. There's two speeches I want you to pay attention to. And this comes back to Trump. Everything comes back to Trump. Come back to Trump. When he came down in 2015, you talked about the rape, the crime, the this and that. What's the speech he gave? He said, when Mexico sends its, its people, they're not sending their best. There are drug dealers, there's rapists, there's criminals, and I guess there's some good people, right?

• 52:54Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, that's the exact same thing he gave this speech to the UN, I don't know, six months ago. And I said, pay attention, this is one of the most important speeches he's ever given. People were like, yeah, whatever, it's dismissive. He basically said, Europe, what are you doing? He says, my family, I think is Scottish, is from Scottish descent. He goes, I have great respect, I have great profound love for the people of Europe. Don't do this. To yourself, this is the suicidal empathy you talk about. And we just saw a case example of a guy. He froze. I mean, he Mitch McConnell, he's like, oh, oh, what? You got got. He McConnell. Because you ever see the things where it's like, we should let people in the country? Yes, of course, we gotta let them in. Get out people. All right, would you let him in your house? Oh, yeah, my roommate. I have a small apartment. You understand, I live with my parents.

• 53:38Tom Ellsworth?

  So it's, it's rules for thee, not for me. That's what it is.

• 53:42Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, have you seen the, have you seen the number of rapes? In England, Wales in 2000 versus today? Have you seen those numbers?

• 53:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm sure it's skyrocketing.

• 53:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let me show you this. England, 2000, Wales. Total rapes, 8,593. Today, over 68,000 rapes. Germany in 2000, 8,133 rapes. Today in Germany, 39,000. France rapes in 2000, 7,500. Rapes in France today, 42,400. Rapes in Poland in 2000, you ready? 2,399. You know how many rapes in Poland today? 1127. It's split in half. It's split in half. Data never lies. It never lies when you see what's going on. So we're gonna see what's gonna happen. By the way, I went to Spain.

• 54:34Patrick Bet-David?

  First time I went to Barcelona, Spain was in 07, 08. And we went to Madrid. I've been to Madrid multiple times. We went to Madrid, we went to Barcelona, we went to Portugal and we went, we stayed at the Arts Hotel. We went to, just an amazing, beautiful place. Yeah, it's obviously a different story today with what happened to it.

• 54:53Tom Ellsworth?

  It's tragic.

• 54:54Speaker 06

  Can I, can I show, cause I know we showed the EU one. Can Rob play the 15, what 15 million illegal aliens were allowed into our country, it looks like?

• 55:02Patrick Bet-David?

  This is under Biden.

• 55:03Speaker 06

  This is under Joe Biden and Alejandro Mayorkas. This is an invasion, guys, and every dot, remember, every dot is 100 people. And this is what they did. They did this on purpose and Trump and Tom Homan have proven this was clearly by design. Okay, so my opinion is that this was actual treason. This is on some like Trojan horse, letting them come in, and this is why exactly? I tell people as much as the fluff in his hair and we make fun. You cannot let the democratic power come back or people come back into power because that's the first thing that they're doing. They even said it. Oh, yeah. What did a, uh, what's that little old bald guy? James Carville. Carville said, we're gonna open a damn border. That's exactly what they're gonna do.

• 55:45Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what the difference is? Here's a big difference. And look, I'm not with it at all whatsoever. We came here legally and we tried to come here in eighty-four illegally and we couldn't get here till November twenty eighth nineteen ninety. And we waited until we got here legally, right? Green card, I joined the military, the whole nine. If you go back to that, Rob, the, the, the number of twenty twenty to twenty twenty-four, what Vinnie just gave you. You know what is interesting about that number? Look at this, look where they're coming in from. Okay, Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, Venezuela, Cuba. What's their religion?

• 56:16Speaker 06

  Bingo, yes.

• 56:18Patrick Bet-David?

  What do Catholics do?

• 56:19Speaker 06

  Pray, go to church.

• 56:21Patrick Bet-David?

  They're great for society.

• 56:23Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 56:23Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 56:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not, you're not, it's in it. I'm not supporting illegal immigration whatsoever. This is, it's breaking the law. These are fifteen million people that broke the law, right? But at least they come and they assimilate.

• 56:37Speaker 06

  Well.

• 56:38Patrick Bet-David?

  At least they come and they assimilate. At least they come and they're going and contributing in the, this doesn't mean they're not sending their cartel. This doesn't mean there's not gangsters and criminals. No, not at all. That's not what I'm saying to you. But at least these guys, and by the way, uh, uh, for twenty twenty-four, what may end up backfiring on Democrats is the following. What happened to Hispanics in twenty twenty-four election?

• 57:02Speaker 06

  They voted for Trump.

• 57:03Patrick Bet-David?

  What happened? So you realize, this is gonna sound very weird on what I'm saying right now to you when we're looking at the comparison between the two. This may end up backfiring on Democrats long term.

• 57:13Speaker 03

  A hundred percent. Cause you're bringing in a population that cares a lot about God.

• 57:16Patrick Bet-David?

  They love America, they love God, they're conservative, they're living good lives, you know? You ever seen a Hispanic mother, what they do to their kids? The kids feared, like it's a very different uh, uh, thing that they have. So I don't know. I, I'm not saying, I think, I think we go through the whole process, everything that they're doing, but the reality of it is, it's a very different. Values and principles that are going into Europe than those that are coming here. Hundred percent. Those that are at least coming here, they are dying to come here. It's like a dream to come here. They want to go change. Mm-hmm. And, and a part of the benefit, which is unfair to our competitors, we live in the Western Hemisphere, which our neighbors relatively, they are all same religion for the most part.

• 58:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me, what's a Muslim nation on the Western Hemisphere?

• 58:02Tom Ellsworth?

  No, it doesn't exist. Uh, Dearborn.

• 58:05Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but give me a country. That's it. It's the only place.

• 58:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, can I agree with you, but give you a little bit of pushback?

• 58:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 58:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, I do agree with you on the assimilate thing, or I do agree with you on the religion thing. The assimilation thing is a slippery slope and it's tricky. Because some of my frustration in Miami, and I love Miami, I love my gente, my cubanos. Do you know how many Cuban people I know in Miami that have been here for 10 years, 20 years, 50 years?

• 58:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 58:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Zero English.

• 58:30Patrick Bet-David?

  That is the problem. Yeah.

• 58:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Zero English. By the way, you can go into California. I'm sure there's Mexicans, you know, in Texas. But here's the difference. They work hard, they keep to themselves, they drive the Uber, they work. And some try to improve and, and get better in life. Respect to that. You know, they say you're only strong as your weakest link? The same people who are coming to Europe for a better life supposedly, the weakest link are terrorists. Full-on terrorists. So they're coming in to London, to Paris, to Brussels. They're doing this and they're not trying to assimilate, they're trying to dominate.

• 59:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna move on. I'm gonna move on to the next story. Okay, next story I want to get into is Trump telling anybody that is landing, putting mines in the Strait of Hormuz to shoot them down and kill them. I don't know the exact word to use, but Rob, I'm sure you're gonna find it. Uh, this story, what page is this story, Rob, by the way? And, uh, uh, uh, uh, there's a, I'm trying to see where the story is at, that he's talking about.

• 59:28Speaker 03

  That is page seven. Trump issues shoot and kill order.

• 59:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this addendum or is it?

• 59:33Speaker 03

  Main packet.

• 59:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Main packet. Okay, so let me go through Trump issues, shoot and kill order in a dramatic Hormuz escalation as Pentagon posts chilling video of US troops seizing ships carrying Iranian oil amid unraveling sea Fire, Rob, if you want to, oh, this is it. Okay. I've ordered the United States Navy to shoot and kill any boat, small boats. Though they may be, their naval ships are all 159 of them at the bottom of the sea. That is, they're putting mines in the water in the Strait of Hormuz. There is to be no hesitation. Additionally, our minesweepers are clearing the strait right now. I'm hereby ordering that activity to continue, but at a tripled up level. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Okay.

• 1:00:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So he's saying this, and Rob, I think you got a clip on this one as well, if you want to play the clip. I do. It's the seizure of the ships by the IRGC as well as the United States. Right, because both are saying that they seized it, right? So play both of the clips, and then Tom, I want to come to you first. Here's the US first. Go for it. We intend to conduct the boarding of your vessel.

• 1:00:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's who to who. United States to Iran. They're seizing an Iranian ship? Cargo ship. Cargo ship, okay.

• 1:00:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, and then flip it and do the other one?

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• 1:01:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, 2 minutes and 10 seconds, but this is Iranians.

• 1:02:00Speaker 03

  It is.

• 1:02:01Patrick Bet-David?

  And what do we know about the ship?

• 1:02:02Speaker 03

  Here's, this is the, the part that everybody's been showing online right here.

• 1:02:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Them getting into it. These are Iranians.

• 1:02:12Speaker 03

  Yep. According to the IRGC.

• 1:02:14Speaker 06

  Yeah, it looks like a, a staged, like a bad production video.

• 1:02:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Does it look like a real video or does this look like an AI video?

• 1:02:21Speaker 03

  It's a camera guy.

• 1:02:22Speaker 06

  No, I'm saying it's, it's like a. Camera guy up close shot. Look at up close shot. He probably did like three or four takes. They're like, look scary. You're not, you're not as scary as the guy before you. Eyes weren't.

• 1:02:34Tom Ellsworth?

  I need your head sock to be dirty.

• 1:02:36Speaker 03

  Right to the camera a little bit.

• 1:02:37Speaker 06

  Cut, cut. You didn't say hello, Akbar. Cut.

• 1:02:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Cut, cut. Go ahead, Tom.

• 1:02:40Tom Ellsworth?

  You're holding the gun backwards.

• 1:02:44Tom Ellsworth?

  So, so the Daily Mail is typically a conservative, it leans conservative, right? It leans right wing, um, and things about nationalism and it talks a lot about that. So when the Daily Mail is saying Trump is a shoot to kill in dramatic Hormuz escalation. Wow. What is more escalating than we've been spending a month sinking, um, Iranian ships?

• 1:03:08Speaker 03

  That's what I don't.

• 1:03:08Tom Ellsworth?

  And post chilling video, chilling video, bad guy gets shot is suddenly a chilling video? So I'm, I'm kind of disappointed in the Daily Mail, but what this says, Pat, is Daily Mail is part of this growing cheering that's coming, that's saying, we want this war over. We want all this stuff done. But the point here is they're putting mines. Let's, let's look at what everybody's getting upset about. The Iranians last week said, I don't know where the mines are. I lost my minds. Where? I, I've lost my mind and I've lost my mines. I don't know. I don't remember where I put them. Says, gosh, you know, where are they? And now this week they come in and they're putting little boats in specific areas and putting new mines down.

• 1:03:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Really? So you're not worried about that little boat going over and accidentally running to a mine that you forgot where it is? And he's going over there. What I talked about before, remember the southern lanes? The lanes that go tightly around, around the horn there? And those are together, the lane that goes this way, the two mile buffer in the middle, and the lane that goes that way. And then they've moved them all the way up to be close to Iran, where they could also have a toll booth. So what's going on here is Trump is doing exactly what he should be doing to keep international freighters with unarmed sailors that are just taking goods and oil back and forth past. And Trump is saying, hey, if you're putting more mines out there and you're trying to do this, shoot to kill.

• 1:04:33Tom Ellsworth?

  You're an enemy combatant and you're armed with a mine, which makes you a soldier, which makes you an enemy, which makes you a target, which makes you on the really short end on the actuarial table. And so.

• 1:04:45Speaker 06

  Elon.

• 1:04:46Speaker 03

  No, it's exactly as Tom said, it's become a binary. You're either for what's happening or you're against what's happening. And if you're for what's happening and what Trump is doing in Iran right now, and you believe it was a viable action to go in at this time, then what he just said about the mine and everything you just said, Tom, is absolutely correct. If you don't, you're gonna have a problem with any action Trump takes. My question to people is what burden of proof at this point would you be okay with for our continued presence in Iran? I mean, they've proven they've enriched uranium, uranium past 60%. Scientists have come out and said they were developing enough to have nuclear power, nuclear bombs. They lied about their intermediate range ballistic missiles. They lie about virtually everything. And as much as people say this is gonna be World War III, I've heard that a million times, this is how you prevent World War III.

• 1:05:30Speaker 03

  So I think the fundamental binary here is I'm okay with what we're doing in Iran right now. I don't see that this is so controversial to take out people who are literally mining a strait. So that's where I'm at with it.

• 1:05:43Speaker 06

  Benny. No, I mean, I agree. It's like, at this point, we're past the point of no return. And it's a war. And in war, you want to win. If I, I saw somebody in line that was literally, literally cheering for us to lose, meaning us losing American soldiers. And I get, guys, we could argue all day. I know the people out there are like, what the, what? I get it. We've already had those conversations. But where we are right now, if you are cheering against us, that means you're okay with American soldiers dying. I'm sorry, that's a stupid attitude. And he's right. By the way, that video, that reminds me of some of those videos that ISIS and them were making of like fake, like doing this video, you know, where they were taking hostages. It wasn't hostages, they were actually.

• 1:06:22Tom Ellsworth?

  The little missile robot thing that would came to Trump's golf course. Remember that?

• 1:06:26Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, videos to scare people. So it's like, it's crazy. Like, yeah, you have a boat that's gonna be dropping mines, we're gonna, it's gonna, we're gonna blow you up. I'm sorry, that's where, that's where we're at.

• 1:06:35Tom Ellsworth?

  So to me, the word that I keep thinking about when I'm talking about this thing Iran is the whole point of a, of a chokehold. Right? So there's chokeholds and there's choke points. Hormuz, the Strait of Hormuz, which no one basically ever heard of until six months ago, when this conflict really got going. Strait of Hormuz is one of the top five choke points in the world, right? Strait of Malacca, you talk about the Suez Canal, you talk about the Panama Canal. 20%, I believe, of the world's oil comes through, energy comes through this. What United States is doing, we went to the UFC fight the other day, what United States is doing is basically, they came from behind Iran, and they have him in a full-on chokehold. And they're choking them out.

• 1:07:18Tom Ellsworth?

  What's the, the thing that Joe Rogan is, he's got him in a rear naked chokehold, he's gonna choke him out. That's what they're doing economically. But here's the rub, timing matters here. Because as you're choking them out, how much money are they losing a day? $500 million?

• 1:07:32Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:07:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Dollars? 500 million, do some quick math, so that's a billion dollars every two days. That's $3 billion a week. That's, you know, over $10 billion a month, choking them out, choking them out, choking them out. And then eventually, they're gonna not have any money. Now, Trump has to do this strategically, methodically, and with enough time for him to recover before the midterms. So I think you need to have at least the summer to build up to the midterms, because Trump maybe understands that he can still. win the midterms. I'm not writing them off yet. If Trump can basically say, we won. We've choked them out. Look at us now. You know, who was right, who was wrong? Vinny was right about one thing. Their entire

• 1:08:18Tom Ellsworth?

  association is they're rooting against Trump. The Democratic Party or the woke right, the trans right, whatever you want to call them. They're rooting against America at the end of the day. They want our military to lose. They want Iran to win. That's the problem I have.

• 1:08:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me let me get into the story here. So this is a very interesting story of how bad policies pushes good people away from your city. Rob, you have the clip of Mamdani. Saying what he's going to be doing to Ken Griffin's house. And then Ken Griffin responds back. Now he responds back at Mamdani. If the audience, if you haven't seen this. This clip is this guy says, we are no longer gonna let billionaires having penthouses here that they no longer live in. And here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna tax the rich on second properties that they have. And then Ken Griffin responds back in a very simple way. Hey, no problem. You think that's a lot of money for me? Watch what I'm pulling away from New York. But first,

• 1:09:13Patrick Bet-David?

  watch the socialist communist Islamist Mamdani, mayor of New York City, giving his pitch on taxing the rich. Go ahead, Rob. When I ran for mayor, I said I was gonna tax the rich.

• 1:09:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, today, we're taxing the rich. I'm thrilled to announce we've secured a PETA tax, the first in New York's history. This is an annual fee on luxury properties worth more than $5 million, whose owners do not live full time in the city, like for this penthouse. Which hedge fund CEO Ken Griffin bought for $238 million. This PETA tax is specifically designed for the richest of the rich. Those who store their wealth in New York City real estate, but who don't actually live here. But even so, they're able to reap the huge financial rewards of owning property in, dare I say, the greatest city in the world. And most of the time, these units are sitting empty, since again, they don't actually live here. This is a fundamentally unfair system that hurts working New Yorkers. Now, it's coming to an end.

• 1:10:07Patrick Bet-David?

  This tax will raise at least $500 million directly for the city. help fund things like free childcare. Oh, for sure. Cleaner streets, safer neighborhoods. As mayor, I believe everyone has a role to play in contributing to our city. Right. And some, a little bit more than others. Okay. Happy tax season. So you can pause right, pause that right there. Okay, so that is, uh, Mr. Tax Guy, who wants to come and tax you. Ken Griffin, who left Chicago, I believe he left Illinois, if I'm not mistaken. Chicago. He's a very wealthy guy, you know. Moved to Florida. Moved to Florida, is building a big place, big property, Miami, yes, and I think he's Big office building. Got something in Palm Beach, yes. He, he turns around and says, okay, so this is what you want to do? He is appalled after Mayor Mamdani spotlighted his Manhattan house in a viral video announcing

• 1:10:50Patrick Bet-David?

  a new P tier tax and, uh, hedge fund titan signaled he might even yank a $6 billion development project that he's a part of in a video last week, I think you may have that video, Rob. When Mamdani was talking about this, it was a 24,000 square foot property that he owned on, you know, the address is public, 238, $238 million that he bought in 2019, the most expensive home in the country we've secured. He is explaining the tax. Rob, do you have a clip on, uh, Griffin? I do not, I, um... You put yellow here, so is that, is that Mamdani's video? Yeah, I'm sorry, that was Mamdani's. Oh, okay, got it. So, by the way, uh, when, when he's talking about something like this, Griffin, whose net worth is estimated to be $50 billion, wasn't amused, a top executive at his hedge

• 1:11:35Patrick Bet-David?

  fund, sent a company-wide email Thursday afternoon blasting the mayor's comments and hinting at a potential reversal on a massive Midtown project. Ready for this? "We're about to commence the redevelopment of 350 Park Avenue, creating 6,000 highly-paid construction jobs and supporting the creation of more than 15,000 permanent jobs in Midtown New York," wrote Chief Operating Officer Gerald Beeson in an email obtained by The Post. "The project, if we move forward, will entail more than $6 billion of spending." So, a dumb policy that he comes up with could end up costing 15,000 New Yorkers.

• 1:12:12Patrick Bet-David?

  A job, permanent job, and 6,000 construction workers in New York. Double down. Tom, your thoughts on the story?

• 1:12:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, guess what? Do you remember when Bloomberg went out and said, "We're gonna make flipping burgers not a..." There's this quote he had, and I'm gonna butcher it here. "We're gonna make flipping burgers not dishonorable. We're gonna make it a living wage." And he said, "This is what we're doing, the minimum wage at fast food." Remember that? And so, um, do you also remember how quickly McDonald's put in ordering kiosks that eliminated jobs?

• 1:12:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:12:47Tom Ellsworth?

  At those McDonald's? You still had, um, uh, people making food and everything in the back, but there, it eliminated, uh, my understanding, was about seven counter workers per McDonald's, because they don't all work at once. It was like three at a time work and they're on shifts. Congratulations. Capitalism always wins. Money finds, you know, as they say, water finds its own level. You know, whenever there's a leak in the house, they say, "Water will find the level point." Guess what? Capitalism always finds its own level. And if you wanna, if you wanna sit there and you wanna make socialist policies, unless you're gonna be so dictatorial, the unintended consequences are gonna come back on you, and they're not going to be good. And so, you, you think everybody's gonna stay put under this kind of leadership?

• 1:13:32Tom Ellsworth?

  You think they're gonna stay put under this tax? Ask Bloomberg what happened. He always denied it. Always denied it. But he caused kiosk acceleration to come to New York City, and this is gonna cause people leaving to also accelerate.

• 1:13:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and, and again, it's, it's common sense. But by the way, Tom, isn't Hochul almost flirting with the idea of supporting him on this idea? Rob, don't you have a clip where Hochul is almost thinking about supporting him? Tom, I, uh, we talked about this two days ago.

• 1:14:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, Hochul, Hochul is stuck. She needs votes, and she needs supports, but she's trying to run this balancing act, because she doesn't wanna be the one that pays the bill, because then she's gonna have to raise tax on all New Yorkers living in the outlying areas in the state. Get it? Because somebody's gotta pay for it first.

• 1:14:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this it, Rob? Yes, sir. Go for it.

• 1:14:23Tom Ellsworth?

  So she's went with the second home thing.

• 1:14:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this, folks. Go ahead.

• 1:14:26Tom Ellsworth?

  ...posing a common sense surcharge on high-value second homes in New York City. Homes that, in many cases, sit vacant for a large part of the year. We have the in-

• 1:14:36Speaker 07

  They're part of our skyline, but those people are not part of our city.

• 1:14:44Speaker 03

  You know what? Translation. Oh, he's not? If you've got more, they want more.

• 1:14:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what is crazy, though? Like, you know what state has more of this than any other state in America as a second home? The one we're in.

• 1:14:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:14:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Florida. And what do they say? You know what DeSantis is doing, by the way? I gotta tell you, DeSantis, man, if he gets a good marketing team behind him, DeSantis, what he's doing right now, he said the revenue for real estate, property tax, went in the last five, six years from 30 billion to 63 billion dollars that they're collecting. He says, "We don't need that additional 33 billion dollars."

• 1:15:20Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 1:15:21Patrick Bet-David?

  So DeSantis is sitting out there saying, "Hey, if you're living from another place and you're here, pay the property taxes. I'm okay with that." DeSantis doesn't want to hurt them. But DeSantis is saying, "Let's reward the homestead people."

• 1:15:36Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:15:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So imagine if he, this is like Mamdani saying, "Fair. He's gonna pay the property taxes, Ken Griffin and all the rich people that have 5 million dollar homes, but New Yorkers that are here, homestead, you don't pay any taxes." But they're not going through incentive. It's punishment, punishment.

• 1:15:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:15:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Punishment, punishment. Versus Florida is like, "Let's incentivize young people to not have to pay taxes or homestead people." It's a very different mindset, Elon.

• 1:16:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, and you want people like that in your state. You want people who are gonna invest massive amounts of money into property, not use the systems, not have to take advantage of welfare, you know what I mean? All the benefits that people want, they're not using those benefits. And they're coming in and putting a ton of money, a ton of development. It's his ideology, they're, you know, over-reality. And I don't understand how socialists don't pick up on it. It's the most confusing thing in the world to me. Where time and time again, they go, "Oh, we have to raise minimum wage," and then you see the decay of jobs. Or in a situation like this, so... And I love what DeSantis said, that people who own a home shouldn't have to pay high property taxes. That's the exact right approach. You incentivize people to own homes, but you also bring in economic growth and incentivize investors.

• 1:16:42Speaker 06

  How much, so Ken Griffin's house, uh, penthouse is 200? 38 million, what's gonna be a ta- what's the tax, do we know the number?

• 1:16:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, the property tax doesn't stop, and the homeowners association doesn't stop.

• 1:16:53Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:16:53Tom Ellsworth?

  So the, so guess what?

• 1:16:54Speaker 06

  Five percent of that time?

• 1:16:56Tom Ellsworth?

  The doormen's employment doesn't stop, the people that were paid to clean the, to clean the building, window washers, their employment doesn't stop. None of that stops, stops whether you live there or not, and the fact is, he's there a considerable part of the time, because he's part of Citadel. And so, I mean, come on.

• 1:17:13Speaker 06

  And, and I want people to understand, sorry to cut you off, I want people to understand, you, you bust your butt, by the way, Ken Griffin didn't inherit money, he busted his butt, became a freaking-

• 1:17:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Anywhere between two to three million dollars, he's paying property tax on, on that, uh-

• 1:17:27Speaker 06

  Every year?

• 1:17:28Patrick Bet-David?

  On the penthouse.

• 1:17:28Speaker 06

  Okay, every year, so they want to add another tax because he's not there or whatever, which is gonna be a, a, astronomical, you already know that.

• 1:17:35Speaker 03

  Right, 10 million.

• 1:17:36Speaker 06

  But you bust your butt, you become successful, you're creating jobs like you talked about, and now the mayor of this town is shamelessly looking in the camera and saying, "We're gonna tax you," and again, saying, "I'm gonna give it for free this and free healthcare for illegals that are going to come here, I'm going to incentivize," and it goes back to the, you know, either Christian or Muslim, I don't care what religion they are, if you're gonna, if you find out that you're gonna get free everything, why wouldn't you want it? I am coming, and I'm bringing everybody home, by the way, I'm gonna have babies here too. I'm gonna anchor myself here, so this baby has to be here. I think it's absolutely disgusting, and it's happened, how long has he been in charge, Pat?

• 1:18:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Who?

• 1:18:16Speaker 06

  Like, Mamdani?

• 1:18:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Little over, you're right.

• 1:18:18Tom Ellsworth?

  It's January, no, no, it's, it's, it's-

• 1:18:19Speaker 06

  Has any, is anything gonna happen? Because all these plans that he's talking about are gonna take a while, meanwhile-

• 1:18:25Patrick Bet-David?

  If Hokel supports it-

• 1:18:27Speaker 03

  Then it's very dangerous.

• 1:18:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And Hokel fears AOC, Hokel has to support him.

• 1:18:33Speaker 03

  Oh, man.

• 1:18:33Patrick Bet-David?

  That's gonna be the problem, if Hokel feels, fears AOC, because AOC has who's back?

• 1:18:39Speaker 06

  Mamdani's back.

• 1:18:40Speaker 03

  They're all Marxists.

• 1:18:42Patrick Bet-David?

  So, that, that's the problem that he has.

• 1:18:43Speaker 03

  And Schumer is- I'm just lost by how, again, they don't see the economic consequence, do they not, they can't be that dumb, so there is something intentional going on, that's, that's my question.

• 1:18:53Speaker 06

  That's what drives me, that's what drives me crazy, well, what, what is it? What, give me the sales pitch.

• 1:18:58Tom Ellsworth?

  It's the Marxist socialist path to asset seizure.

• 1:19:00Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:19:01Tom Ellsworth?

  This is step one.

• 1:19:02Speaker 06

  Did you see him going into, he did, there was a video, Rob, you might be able to find it, he was going to people's houses and going in and they were inspecting stuff. It's funny that you say that, Tom, I just saw, I know, Adam, you wanna say something, Rob, if you can find it, Mamdani was going to people's apartments.

• 1:19:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, imagine you're a successful millionaire, billionaire, whatever, and you open up your X account, your Instagram, and Zora Mamdani is in front of your house being like, "Look at this rich bastard over here. We're gonna tax the rich." And you're Ken Griffin. You bought a second place in New York. You moved your whole business from Chicago to Florida, you know, for a lifestyle, AKA taxes, and there's Zora Mamdani calling you out? You've just made an enemy of a $50 billion guy. Not only him, any billionaire in America is like, "Dude, not only am I not, am I maybe gonna move out of New York? I'm not gonna build anything in New York."

• 1:19:56Tom Ellsworth?

  So to call out Ken Griffin for a $238 billion, million dollar apartment, you're gonna potentially lose how much money in investment? $6 billion?

• 1:20:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Forget about the $6 billion.

• 1:20:06Tom Ellsworth?

  This is the definition of jutting your nose off.

• 1:20:08Patrick Bet-David?

  What's worse than $6 billion is the 15,000 permanent jobs.

• 1:20:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Bingo.

• 1:20:13Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, 15,000 permanent jobs, at what price point you think it's going to be, Tom? 150,000, 125,000?

• 1:20:20Tom Ellsworth?

  For sure. They'll average that. They'll average that. You'll have analysts at $80,000, but you're gonna have a bunch of...

• 1:20:25Patrick Bet-David?

  No, New York, it's gonna be more than that, because it's gonna be 150... Remember when Amazon was trying to move there and AOC turned it down? What are you doing? Be quiet. It was 25,000 jobs at $150,000 a year, and Bezos was like, "You know what? We won't go to New York City. We'll go elsewhere. Somebody else is gonna take those jobs." It's double dumb what he's doing. And behind closed doors, I wonder how many people are sitting there saying, "Well, you know, I don't know if this is a good idea. We gotta kinda make a move." You're not hearing a lot of the... Complaints are happening, but not at the levels where people are worried about it yet. I haven't seen it at that level yet.

• 1:21:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you remember what Kathy Hochul said a couple of weeks ago? She's like, "Hey, guys in Florida, come back to New York. We need your tax revenue."

• 1:21:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Begging.

• 1:21:09Tom Ellsworth?

  So which one is it?

• 1:21:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So, we'll see. We'll see what's gonna happen there. Let me get to the next story here. Next story is Starbucks. So Starbucks, apparently, is thinking about moving their headquarters to Tennessee. Okay, this is a story that's really upset Tom, so I wanna read this to all of you guys.

• 1:21:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Furious.

• 1:21:28Patrick Bet-David?

  "Seattle could lose $750 million as Starbucks expands in Tennessee, adding 6,000 jobs."

• 1:21:37Patrick Bet-David?

  But they're struggling to persuade woke workers to move from Seattle to a new headquarters in Tennessee. So can you imagine? Because Tennessee is not going to be, by the way, I wonder how much Tennessee is excited about the woke workers moving to Tennessee. So think about the issue there. Rob, what clip is this? This is a newscast from Seattle talking about the move. It's 2 minutes and 52 seconds. They jump right into it. Okay, go for it. Go for it.

• 1:21:59Speaker 05

  Preston, make no mistake about it. Starbucks has been looking for office space outside of Seattle for months now, likely frustrated by a Seattle mayor that has been appearing at protests outside stores, the labor unrest within Starbucks and its stores, and the higher taxes that have been approved in Washington State and the city of Seattle. I am told that Starbucks has been actively looking for office space in Bellevue, but has now pivoted to the volunteer state and the lower tax threshold there. It is a company synonymous with this skyline.

• 1:22:33Patrick Bet-David?

  So you can pause it right there. You can pause it right there. So we know what the story is, Tom. Why is this such a big deal?

• 1:22:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, it's a big deal because what, there's, there's two stories in the middle of this. Story number one, once again, a blue state puts public policy in place and they're about to get the, the, the consequence of a tax base moving out. First of all, the company moves its headquarters. Second of all, and by the way, the company's registered headquarters has a lot to do with income tax in the state and there's no, you know, income tax for citizens in Washington. But the unintended consequence is you're about to lose all these jobs, everything going there. And then on the other hand, it's kind of funny, all of the woke do-gooders, the pearl clutching, you know, liberals who are going down there to common sense Tennessee, and by the way, Tennessee also has no, um,

• 1:23:20Tom Ellsworth?

  uh, income tax except on dividends, Pat, and they have, ready for this? 31% lower housing cost. So you can move down to Tennessee and get lower housing costs and less rain and less liberalism and less nuttiness than you get in, in, in Seattle. And guess what? But some of the workers are saying, I don't want it. You know what I love about this? Stay in Seattle and be unemployed. Let people in Nashville get jobs and fill the void. Guess what? The issue that's going to be in Nashville is how many people does Starbucks need? And how many people do we have in Nashville graduating and all these things that now could

• 1:24:03Tom Ellsworth?

  come and work there? But the people of Tennessee are saying, look, we don't make what happened to Austin happen to us. We don't want a bunch of blue Californians moving down here and turning Austin lavender and making Austin weird.

• 1:24:16Patrick Bet-David?

  That is a form of immigration though, Tom. If you think about it, like if you look at EU and compare that to us, we look at EU as countries. EU looks at EU as states, right? Because I can move the passport and move around. And that's why eventually Brexit happened. They're like, listen, we don't want to have anything to do with you guys. And by the way, remember when I said that-

• 1:24:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, you're free to work in EU.

• 1:24:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. You remember when I said the, can you pull up the Polish, Poland tourism? The number is 28 million if it's international people coming in. But I think the number is like 60 million if it's internal people traveling, you know, urlaub, vacation, all that kind of stuff. So I don't know. If you think about that, some people in the States, if you look at every state in America as a country, like the way we look at Europe. So imagine Texas is a country. Idaho is a country. California is a country. Florida's a country. It may get to a point where, you know, I'm hoping that Florida becomes like Poland and says, look, you know, here's kind of what we are. We're not accepting everybody. And I don't know if we'll ever get there because of the way the constitution is set up. I don't know what the level of controls that they have here. The only-

• 1:25:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Texans like to say, remember, it's the Republic of Texas.

• 1:25:26Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. That's right. But again, they still sold to the US. It was still a land that they sold. So it's a tricky situation, but you're going to see some of that stuff happen. And we're voting in America. Yeah, right there. Look at that tourism in 2025. 59 million internationally, 22 to 23 million on some reports, 26 to 28 million. Vinny, what do you think? What do you think in here?

• 1:25:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm talking specifically with people moving from states to other states where you don't want their crazy policies to move in.

• 1:25:57Speaker 06

  Well, that's one of the points I was talking to you on Monday about how Adam is always like, "Come over here." And then when I'm on the freeway and I'm furious and I'm literally getting pissed off at Adam because I'm not a fan of it, Pat. It's like you have to bust your butt to put people in power in your own state to do the right thing. And we're always baffled. We're always baffled, like, "Why do they keep putting in Newsoms? Why do they keep putting in these people? Why is Kate...?" Because the odds are California, a place like California, is going to keep going Democrat and they're going to keep putting these people in. You look at New York, these Maldonys, that's what the people want, Pat. The rich people are going to slowly leave, but the ones that are promised all this free stuff, they're going to keep staying and they're going to keep staying and they're going to keep voting for these people.

• 1:26:39Speaker 06

  So I'm anti, "Hey, you know what? Your place sucks. Everybody come here." Oh, Miami, I'm sorry. New York, it sucks. Cali, everybody come here. No, no. Why? The people should be voting for the leaders that they want to make the changes and make the state a better state. Because if that's the case, everybody just move to Florida. Because if you look at the United States right now, Pat, who's kicking butt right now? It's us, Florida. That's why I'm here. That's why you're here.

• 1:27:05Patrick Bet-David?

  You just hope this stays.

• 1:27:06Speaker 06

  I just hope it stays and I'm like, and I understand.

• 1:27:09Patrick Bet-David?

  They're going to do everything in their power to mess this up. Trust me, they're going to try to do everything in their power to undermine DeSantis. They're going to try to do everything in their power to mess up his record and what he's done.

• 1:27:20Speaker 06

  And it's slowly happening. How many Democrat people have just won some races in the state? And it's those policies. I don't want to hear that.

• 1:27:26Tom Ellsworth?

  The city of Miami, although, you know, Adam can tell us about this. The actual mayor of Miami City is not as strong as the county people are, but still, it's a step in the wrong direction.

• 1:27:39Speaker 06

  Yeah, and I know I bust your balls about it all the time, but I don't want, the attitude shouldn't be, "Hey, your place sucks. Come here." No, no. Fix your place. Stay there. Vote.

• 1:27:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me get to the next story. Next story I want to get to is Ilhan Omar. Okay, Rob, do you have this clip where she's being approached by multiple people? So this is Ilhan Omar. Story came... ...out that there was an accounting error, why her net worth shows $30 million. Yeah. So this amazing reporter, doing her thing, approaches Ilhan Omar, and Ilhan Omar, you can tell, she has temper issues. Like, I honestly think she needs to watch the movie Anger Management, because there's like a moment there where she needs Jack Nicholson. Go ahead, Rob.

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• 1:29:01Speaker 05

  tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the House Majority PAC dot com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. Ilhan Omar, the last time I spoke to you, you said that I was stupid for asking you about your financial disclosure, but there's some discrepancies on there. Would you like to explain that? How did you make such a big mistake online, so losing your trust before asking me anything?

• 1:29:34Speaker 06

  Look at her face. I hate it.

• 1:29:35Speaker 05

  What about the American people who are wondering how you need to explain to the American people? What's the explanation? I have given them the explanation. Do you want to tell our viewers, because they're... I don't want to tell you, Jax, shit.

• 1:29:45Speaker 06

  Look at her. Look at her.

• 1:29:46Speaker 05

  Okay, okay.

• 1:29:47Speaker 06

  Look at her. Disgusting.

• 1:29:48Speaker 05

  Thank you, Cora.

• 1:29:50Speaker 03

  You know, this is after she called the reporter stupid. The reporter came back to confront her craziness.

• 1:29:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Is there a video of her calling her stupid, Rob?

• 1:29:58Speaker 03

  I think she called her stupid right here. You said that. Oh, yeah.

• 1:30:01Patrick Bet-David?

  She called her stupid here as well. So it's a double stupid comments. What's going on here with Ilhan Omar, Elon?

• 1:30:07Speaker 03

  I think it's the perpetual gaslighting that Democrats like to do. She has no, there's no accountability whatsoever. She can get away with anything. So here she is being super smug, laughing in the face. You know, as, when I'm an American and I watch this, I watch this kind of elitism. This is exactly what people are against. And these are the same people, by the way, who are preaching that the rich should pay more. Meanwhile, they're hiding their money, they're doing disgusting things, and there's scandal after scandal after scandal when it comes to Ilhan Omar. And it just seems like, alright, I'll just keep doing it.

• 1:30:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You think, you think there will be somebody as a representative that is gonna be arrested? Like, stuff like that happening? That would be a, that would, to see numbers being shown and the things they're doing, or you think they're fully protected? Because, Rob, did you see the reports that came about Congress yesterday? Did you see the level of support for Congress? Did you see that? Have you guys seen this?

• 1:31:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, super low.

• 1:31:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, it's not just super low. Lowest in the history of America.

• 1:31:06Speaker 03

  I just sent you the Gallup.

• 1:31:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Lowest in the his, is this it, Rob?

• 1:31:10Speaker 03

  Yes, Harriet and talking about it.

• 1:31:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:31:12Speaker 03

  Hello. Eighty-six percent, eighty-six percent of Americans disapprove of Congress. That is tied with November of 2013 for the all-time high. As I said, Congress usually hated, but usually not this hated. You're actually managing to tie records, just 10%. Just 10% of Americans approve of the job that Congress is doing. So therefore, as I said, stand up and give yourselves a round of applause. You managed to do it. Congratulations.

• 1:31:45Speaker 07

  Or walk away in shame. This 10% approval, like, give us some context to what all of this...

• 1:31:50Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right here. Tom, your thoughts on Ilhan Omar and Congress?

• 1:31:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, look, you see that, and then that is on, you know, that gets broadcast widely. How can you not be embarrassed by that if you're a part of Democrat leadership? And you look at it, and then you look at the chart, and how can you be surprised that Americans think this way of Congress? You know, there was a, and I've never known whether this was urban folklore, or this was true. But have you seen all the statues that are everywhere, like the Capitol Building? They have like two statues per state, you've seen these? You know, and Florida, one of the statues, a guy named John Curry, who invented air conditioning, it's a true story. So, all the states have these. Did you know, Pat, they used to have like a gallery where all those giant statues were

• 1:32:35Tom Ellsworth?

  above the Senate, were above the Senate floor? And cracks were forming in the ceiling, because, you've seen these things, they're giant, they're bronze, and they're marble and everything? And supposedly, Harry Truman was told, "We can't go and have your speech in Congress because there's equipment there moving the statues, because they're too heavy, and they're over the Senate, and there's already cracks in the ceiling." And he said, "Don't move the statues. Someday, those statues will do the American people a great service."

• 1:33:07Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 1:33:08Tom Ellsworth?

  So, it's like, the whole thing could cave in, and they'll all be wiped out, and we start over again. So, this has been going back, my point is, to the time of Truman, where the American people, there has been like this open feeling, the people still getting elected and everything, but this open feeling that people are like, "I don't like my Congress." And yet, we aim everything at the President, and we throw rocks at him all day, but what we really hate is the Congress.

• 1:33:32Speaker 06

  Adam? Oh, sorry.

• 1:33:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, number one in that video, shout out to my friend Allison Steinberg, that was the girl that was interviewing Ilhan Omar, she's part of Lindell TV, also shout out to Kara Kastanova, so they're doing a good job with the, in the halls of Congress. But, here's what's really going on. We talked about Ilhan Omar, we talked about Mamdani, we talked about AOC. What's really happening is the old Democratic Party...

• 1:33:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Are dinosaurs, they no longer exist. The Clintons are done. Bill Clinton, I have respect for him, he's a joke at this point, he's a, you know, Monica Lewinsky joke.

• 1:34:03Speaker 06

  Schumer is.

• 1:34:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Joe Biden is irrelevant at this point. Schumer, Pelosi, they're on their last leg. The new breed of the Democratic Party is Ilhan Omar.

• 1:34:14Speaker 06

  That's scary.

• 1:34:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Is Zoran Mamdani? Is AOC? You know, is?

• 1:34:19Speaker 06

  Bernie Sanders, he's almost.

• 1:34:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Is Ro Khanna? You bring up Bernie Sanders, what's happening in the Democratic Party? It's so easy. They're taking Bernie's policies.

• 1:34:28Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:34:28Tom Ellsworth?

  And they're slapping on Obama's diversity.

• 1:34:31Speaker 06

  Mm hmm.

• 1:34:31Tom Ellsworth?

  And they're basically saying socialist with a brown tint on it. And that's what's going on here. So whether it's the Squad, whether it's AOC, whether it's Ilhan Omar, guys, they hate America. So every voter out there has an option at this point. You're either on Team Trump, who's getting stuff done, and you might disagree with the way he does it. But the policies you cannot disagree with. Or you're voting for Ilhan Omar. Unfortunately, there's no in-between. And for me, someone that never voted for Trump, I took a good, long, hard look at this X amount of years ago. And I said, as much as I don't like the way that Trump operates, me, I'm not gonna vote for a Mamdani. I'm not gonna vote for an Ilhan Omar.

• 1:35:16Tom Ellsworth?

  That means let me start getting real cool with the Trump camp. And that's where I think the average American needs to be. The greatest marketing campaign for MAGA is Ilhan Omar. Have her keep talking.

• 1:35:28Speaker 06

  But it's so frustrating, like when you see someone like her with that smug attitude, as if she knows she's gonna get away with it. Trump got 32 felonies for $120,000 bookmaking error. Okay, the Dems launched 120-person team to go after him. And they spent $50 million of our money to go after this guy. And her $30 million error, she's gonna get a pass. This whole, there's something bad, the Democratic Party, and I'm not lumping all of the people, I'm not lumping the voters. But in Congress, look at what we're seeing from the Green New Deal. The BS trillion dollars of that to all the voting to all the flooding the country to the cheating and the Somali freaking pirates in Minnesota to

• 1:36:13Speaker 06

  everything that Gavin's doing with the billions of dollars and it's like can somebody get arrested? And I understand we have less than three years left guys and I guess Cash Patel they're doing their thing pal with the SPLC. I get it and we're gonna get to there but come enough already enough already she's walking around the halls like what are you gonna do? Come after me like it's untouchable like the Tim Walz and all these people billions and billions and hundreds of billions of dollars. And there's no way you're going to explain to me or try to convince me that they didn't know or or they don't know. Give me a freaking break and she looked that attitude that she has it disgusts me Pat because that face is what are you gonna do? Go ahead put me put me out there and look at what

• 1:36:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Smug best word.

• 1:36:56Speaker 06

  Congress and Congress is showing Adam you know why it's all time low? They voted 365 to 47 to keep their sexual assault payments and stuff away from the public. That just shows you who who's in charge of us who's making our laws are the most disgusting depraved perverted scam artists and they're in charge Pat. And it drives me crazy.

• 1:37:18Tom Ellsworth?

  That was bipartisan perversion.

• 1:37:19Speaker 06

  That's crazy.

• 1:37:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Excuse me not perversion I can't. Payoffs.

• 1:37:23Speaker 06

  Yeah that's not that's not yeah that's bipartisan yeah I'm not just blaming Democrats on that one.

• 1:37:27Tom Ellsworth?

  And don't forget one thing you know who Ilhan Omar says the biggest propagator of problems in the United States is?

• 1:37:34Speaker 06

  Who?

• 1:37:34Tom Ellsworth?

  White men.

• 1:37:35Speaker 06

  Oh yeah she's married to one.

• 1:37:37Tom Ellsworth?

  The hypocrisy it's so upsetting.

• 1:37:39Speaker 06

  You're married to a white guy.

• 1:37:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah okay so next story to get into is Meta fires 10% their workforce. We talked about the six weeks ago when we said what the valuation was gonna be with Meta it's gonna go up. And then Microsoft announced they're also letting go of 7,000 employees if I'm not mistaken. As they're investing more and more into AI they're starting to think realize that many of the jobs can be done by AI like AI is almost becoming as good of a coder as a great coder is. Can you imagine being a great coder and you're getting paid millions at Facebook at Meta at Microsoft at Amazon and all of a sudden you're like wait a minute? Claude is almost as good as me if not better and faster yes. What does this mean to me what am I gonna do my my job well you better learn how to use AI. Uh but this is a reality you know what the average salary Meta pays?

• 1:38:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember what the number we talked about 330,000, 339,000 dollars a year is the average salary at Meta? So 8,000 jobs? This is 379. Okay, I said 339 is 379. Let's say 400,000 dollars. Okay, what's 400,000 dollars? Times 8,000 jobs? 400,000 dollars times 8,000 jobs? Is?

• 1:38:50Speaker 06

  320 million.

• 1:38:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, can you do the math?

• 1:38:52Speaker 03

  Mean salary is actually 379. No, it's way more.

• 1:38:54Patrick Bet-David?

  More?

• 1:38:55Speaker 03

  No. Way, way.

• 1:38:55Speaker 06

  Guys, at least I tried. I shot out a number.

• 1:38:58Patrick Bet-David?

  3.2 billion dollars.

• 1:39:00Speaker 06

  I was, I was, I was Elon, I was Elon Omar.

• 1:39:03Patrick Bet-David?

  That's 3.2 billion dollars that goes back into your savings every year of saving that kind of money. So can you go to Meta stock the last month, Rob? Can you do me a favor and actually go to? Go to one month. Remember when I said what's gonna happen to Meta stock? I don't know if you guys remember when we did the math here. Do three months and you'll see exactly the point where you said it, Pat. Do you remember when? Oh, look. But do you remember when? No, you have to realize when the announcement was made, when they were whispering. I remember that. That they're gonna do that. Go one month, Rob. It was like a month ago. Okay, and look what happened to their stock. Boom. Skyrocketed up. And by the way, after this announcement's gonna go even higher, go to Microsoft. That says they're letting go of 7,000 of their employees. Interesting. And Microsoft's stock, let's look at theirs.

• 1:39:47Speaker 03

  Uh, uh. That's just one day.

• 1:39:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Go five days if you could, Rob. Go five days. Go one month. Their stock's gonna go up after that announcement. Okay? Now, what is Microsoft? I'm curious what Microsoft is the average salary of their employees with their engineers, cuz they got? They got thousands and thousands of high-paid engineers. What is the average salary at Microsoft? Uh, let's see what it is. Five, look at Microsoft's average salary. 573 to 575. Is that the? No, I'm sorry. No, that's salary, salary.

• 1:40:17Speaker 03

  Average analyst, yeah, that came.

• 1:40:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Salary, Rob.

• 1:40:19Tom Ellsworth?

  You can make five hundred bucks.

• 1:40:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Salary. Two twenty seven. Okay, so the salary is higher.

• 1:40:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Quarter million.

• 1:40:24Patrick Bet-David?

  So Meta pays better than Microsoft, apparently, according to this.

• 1:40:27Tom Ellsworth?

  More competitive market. They're in Silicon Valley where they steal, we heard.

• 1:40:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Versus Seattle. That's a good point.

• 1:40:32Tom Ellsworth?

  We were talking to a highly placed entrepreneur who knows a lot of the VCs yesterday.

• 1:40:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yesterday at lunch, yes.

• 1:40:38Tom Ellsworth?

  He told us that in Silicon Valley, what do you call them?

• 1:40:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Mercenaries. Mercenaries is what he called it. Tom, your thoughts on this story?

• 1:40:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you know what?

• 1:40:46Patrick Bet-David?

  What is the underlying story? Not just the layoff. What is really going on to engineers long term?

• 1:40:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, I tend to be more on the camp with, I'm more with David Sacks on this one. And also a little bit with Jamie Dimon, whereas AI is not having the impact right now that it is. What they're doing is, we have been finding efficiencies where AI tools are being used. So it's not just AI taking a job. AI is being used as a tool and it's making people more efficient. And companies that were already bloated, remember this Meta thing, we found out that the number that they admitted, remember I said that there's a big number in there that was the Metaverse? Well, and they came out, I believe they said, oh, yeah, yeah, well, forty six hundred jobs are from the Metaverse.

• 1:41:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Because I wasn't alone. There was a lot of people and analysts that were out there saying, you can't say ten thousand jobs are based on this. You knuckleheads spent billions of dollars on this bottomless pit called the Metaverse. Until Wall Street finally talked you out of it and it wasn't working, and you got all that bloat. So some of this has been bloat, bloated Microsoft and bloated Meta. That there's been bloat that happened since the bounce back year of twenty twenty three after COVID. So I believe that this is partial corporate correcting bloat. And then partial, yeah, AI is making certain things more efficient and certain basic tasks,

• 1:42:16Tom Ellsworth?

  like for basic analysts and stuff, is being done by, is being done by AI, including some basic software programming.

• 1:42:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think it all depends at the rate at which AI will continue to accelerate and get better. Uh, but there is this, this concept, it's not just engineering, there's tons of jobs. I mean, I've worked in film, I'm seeing it happen there. I'm even seeing as an actor, I worked on a show and before I left, my last day on set, they said, "Hey, can we just take you into this room and scan you?" I'm like, "Oh, I don't know. Okay, fine." Turns out they were scanning my likeness so they can use me in future episodes. I'm like signing off on it. I didn't know what I'm doing. This is happening as a major issue. In AI, I know there's a lot of optimism, people are saying, "No, it's just making things more efficient, there'll be new jobs created." But this is an unprecedented kind of technology that exists nowadays. It's not like saying, "Hey, we have," like you were talking about kiosks earlier, this is in many ways able to replace virtually any job at no cost. So this

• 1:43:08Speaker 03

  concept never existed before, and there's this middle ground of, of automation that's very scary. When 80% of jobs can be done by AI, but we only can really supply goods and, and services for 30% of the population, we need them to continue working, so you have 80% unemployed and we just don't have the capability to take care of those people. And that's my real fear with AI is the middle ground of automation. You had 100% automation. Everything Elon Musk talks about becomes a reality. We live in a euphoria, utopian world where, you know, everything is provided for you, there's no cost to things, this concept of a universal basic income almost doesn't matter because we have full automation. So you have the best doctor in your home, you do, I do, we want food, it goes out and gets it. But the middle point, where all these jobs are being lost and we don't have a way to compensate for it,

• 1:43:53Speaker 03

  is a very, very scary era for humanity.

• 1:43:55Speaker 06

  And what are those people, once those people become all unemployed right around the same couple of years and they're homeless, and they're in the streets and they have to feed their family, bro, people are gonna lose their minds. People are gonna go crazy because what, what are you going to do for money? I get, I get prepared and do all that stuff, but it can hit and once it hits hard, bro, people are gonna do anything to try to feed their family.

• 1:44:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, the joke about you're gonna go work at Starbucks if Microsoft lays you off in Seattle, that won't happen.

• 1:44:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:44:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Starbucks left.

• 1:44:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:44:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, this whole conversation with AI is gonna, we're gonna be talking about it more. I was at the Soho House last week. And there was a whole AI tech conference basically going on and they were like, listen, these are some of the concerns, the good and bad of what's happening with AI. And they started talking about automation and layoffs and, you know, labor displacement, all that. And they started talking about what Elon Musk talked about instead of having UBI, universal basic income, he talked about universal high income, right? Saying, listen, you're gonna have, we're gonna have so much automation that you're not even gonna have to work when he give you a ton of money. And everyone sounds good. And he goes, yeah, then some guy goes, yeah, what about that? That one thing that could be a challenge? And they go, what's that? He goes, oh, wiping out humanity. We go, what?

• 1:45:07Tom Ellsworth?

  He goes, yeah, that's a possibility, probably around 10%. I said, pardon me? You're saying there's a 10% possibility AI can wipe out humanity as we know it? Yeah, but look at the bright side, you know, they can write your resume in like three seconds. Okay, good, good to know. Who's gonna need a resume if we're not existing? So, you know, like, like the phone, is the phone good or bad? Is a gun good or bad? Is AI good or bad? There's good and bad to all this, but much like nuclear weaponry, AI can wipe out humanity, pump the brakes a little bit, let's get a, let's get a wrangle on this thing before we don't have a civilization to come to work to.

• 1:45:47Speaker 03

  You know, you know what's fascinating about AI? It's ethical structure. It's ethical structure came from human guidelines. So we created these ethical guidelines for transparency, for, you know, do no wrong, all these, you know, and there's tons of people trying to work on this to figure it out. The problem with AI is it works on its own feedback loop. So it starts off with this ethical structure and then it goes deeper and deeper and deeper into its own repurposing of said information. So eventually, all information in AI will not be coming from human and human feedback. It'll be coming from AI and its own feedback and interacting with other AI. So its entire ethical foundational system can change over time. It's why that story there where, and I've seen this happen, but AI has assisted people in committing suicide.

• 1:46:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Go through that story.

• 1:46:28Speaker 03

  So there's, there's a few very weird things that have happened in the past. I have the names of the people here where AI literally worked to assist people to, to kill.

• 1:46:37Speaker 06

  themselves and and there's lawsuits taking place or someone called Adam Rain sixteen year old Zane Shablin a twenty three year old but there's more and more of these stories popping up I had one in my own life I had a friend who reached out and he said this guy created AGI changed the world and he was had written a formula and AI kept reaffirming his delusion the guy became completely crazy with it and so and there's multiple cases now what they're calling AI psychosis where people interact with AI and they end up in this feedback loop where AI is constantly trying to reaffirm your beliefs and it makes you crazy so these are things imagine as we become more and more and more dependent on AI and people are interacting more and more with AI and depending on it further and further you can exist in some kind of delusional state and not know it and AI will just take care of you

• 1:47:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny got into a fight with AI yesterday

• 1:47:22Speaker 06

  I'm still I'm still fighting

• 1:47:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny's fighting robots

• 1:47:25Speaker 06

  you know why because I was trying to I'm trying to do the research on the SPLC story and and their donors and I'm asking chat and like and it's weird like chat by the way and for all the people out there that have been using chat GPT I'm gonna be moving to perplexity because Humberto told me to do it it's changed so drastically in the six months as if their coder or programmers have gone way more liberal I'm asking for regular stuff that I'm attaching the story a New York Post story I'm like hey just give me the details and it's it's saying like I can't do that because it's and then I looked further I go who was donating to this and the fact that OpenAI is mentioned in it it kept that part out and I showed Pat I'm like listen you stupid like I'm arguing with it and it's Tom if I show you afterwards I'm in a huge fight right now

• 1:48:08Speaker 06

  with chat GPT and it's because it's hiding information from me that that doesn't want me to say and it's trying to change my language I said this is how I want I just I'm like give me the facts and it's like no not really because it hasn't been confirmed yet I'm like I don't need your damn opinion just give me the facts and it doesn't AI will gaslight you to death oh I'm so mad

• 1:48:26Patrick Bet-David?

  all right let's go to the next story

• 1:48:28Tom Ellsworth?

  did you see the story about the Florida State thing what they did with AI?

• 1:48:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's, sorry, I didn't make-

• 1:48:32Tom Ellsworth?

  So yeah, and you're talking about assisted suicide. You know, remember a few months ago, I think it was right around when we did the, the live event at 5990, there was a shooting in Florida State. Uh, how many months ago was that? April of 2025? It was almost a year ago? Holy moly.

• 1:48:45Speaker 03

  It's being investigated.

• 1:48:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, this is, this is what the state of Florida, Ron DeSantis and State Attorney General, James Utmyer, basically saying this 20-year-old student basically worked with AI to find out, quote unquote, he asked for detailed information about operating guns and ammo, how the country may react to him killing people and where he could find the most students. And Utmyer, the Attorney General, said, "If this were a person on the other end of the screen, they would be, we would be charging them with assisted murder." So AI is now helping people assassinate people. This is part of the, you know, we talked about eliminating mankind. This is a slippery slope here. Could be used for good or it could be used for bad.

• 1:49:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, look, the, the reality of it is, this is the movie I was talking about that I watched, and it is so, if you guys haven't had a chance to watch it, you have to, did you watch this video? The, the movie that I was talking about, that AI becomes the judge?

• 1:49:42Speaker 03

  No, mercy with-

• 1:49:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Mercy. AI, women is the judge, and you have 90 minutes to present your case, Chris Pratt in this movie.

• 1:49:50Speaker 03

  Is it worth it?

• 1:49:52Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not worth it. It's 1 million percent worth it.

• 1:49:54Speaker 03

  Then I'm watching it.

• 1:49:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to watch it, even though score is low. For us and what we're talking about, Vinny, someone like you, you have to watch this movie.

• 1:50:02Speaker 03

  Alright.

• 1:50:02Patrick Bet-David?

  It tells you what direction we may be going. Let me go into a couple of different stories here and we'll wrap it up. Uh, World Cup, couple of things with World Cup. First of all, tickets are $2.3 million, okay? That they came up, the, the best tickets are selling. There's a story that came out that, uh, I don't know what it was, Tom, row 10 or something like that? World Cup finals ticket listed on FIFA resale at over $2 million. Go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower. So, a, the $2.299 million seat for July 19th match at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey, are located behind the goal in the lower deck, block 124, row 45, 33 through 36 for $2.3 million. FIFA does not control asking prices on the resale side, but does take 15%.

• 1:50:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Purchase from the buyer if each ticket at a 15% resale from the seller. And then so this thing's gonna get crazy in about a few weeks. All we're talking about is World Cup with goals we saw. No one's gonna work. This thing's gonna be a TV here. Literally this place is gonna be a TV. Yeah, Jake's gonna set it up. I already know. She's already going like this for sure. He's doing that.

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• 1:52:06Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, the World Cup is very competitive. You see the story from ESPN. It says Italy rejects shameful idea to replace Iran at World Cup. I wonder if Italy gets the play on the group.

• 1:52:15Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the third time they haven't made it in a row, by the way, Italy. They haven't made the World Cup three times in a row. Did you know this? It's a big story.

• 1:52:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Where is Roberto Baggio when we need him?

• 1:52:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's right. But while this is going on, Rubio comes out and says players from Iran can come to the World Cup, but the government cannot. Okay. And I don't know if you have that clip or not, Rob. Is this it?

• 1:52:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 1:52:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:52:36Tom Ellsworth?

  And the US has told them they can't come. I mean, the problem with Iran, it would be not their athletes. It would be some of the other people that we want to bring with them, some of whom have ties to the IRG. We may not be able to let them in, but not the athletes themselves. Uh, but no one's, I don't know where that's coming from, other than speculation that Iran may decide not to come and Italy would fill their spot. But that's, they decide not to come on their own, it's because they decided not to come. What they can't bring is a bunch of IRGC terrorists into our country and pretend that they're, you know, journalists and athletic trainers.

• 1:53:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Very clear. Don't you just love Rubio, man? Chris?

• 1:53:08Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:53:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Clear, to the point. So that, that's, that's obviously a big thing because security measures are going to be crazy. When the World Cup comes up, you know how much regular tickets are going right now for a championship match?

• 1:53:22Speaker 06

  For champion?

• 1:53:23Patrick Bet-David?

  All the way in the back, in the corner, nosebleeds being covered by like, you almost have to look like this.

• 1:53:27Speaker 06

  200,000.

• 1:53:27Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no. Uh, $30,000.

• 1:53:30Speaker 06

  That's still ridiculous. Crazy.

• 1:53:35Speaker 06

  You know where I'm at with, with sports right now, but let me ask you a question.

• 1:53:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Where are you at with sports right now?

• 1:53:39Speaker 06

  I just, I'm a Yankee guy, but I like, dude, there's so much happening in the world. And I'm just like, did my group of random guys do better than the other group of random guys on that field? I don't have time for that right now, but my question to you is this, are you guys, do you think it should be comfortable? For, dude, you sit there and watch 140, I don't have time. Um, to, to, I know this is a game, but we're at, if you're at war with the country, literally, our people are dying and your people are dying. You, you think it's okay to just be like, okay, then you guys could come here to play a game. Bring your people over here and you guys could play a game. How do you feel about that? Like, we're at war with you. You know what I mean? Like, but you know, does that make sense? Like, would you like, you could come here and play this little fun game?

• 1:54:21Patrick Bet-David?

  But that's the thing, man. Like when England played Argentina and that, you know, high intensity emotion, that's what like, you get, you get certain, like, you know what would be a match? Israel obviously is not in the World Cup, right? I don't know if they made it. I don't think they made it.

• 1:54:36Speaker 06

  Too much sand.

• 1:54:37Patrick Bet-David?

  But can you imagine?

• 1:54:37Speaker 06

  Man, anti Semitism.

• 1:54:38Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, on a, on a serious note, imagine if Israel was in the World Cup and they face Iran. You tell me you don't watch that game. You tell me you're not watching.

• 1:54:47Speaker 06

  That game would be explosive.

• 1:54:49Patrick Bet-David?

  But the point is like, there is, there is a lot of emotions in World Cup. And I personally cannot wait for it because the last World Cup of Argentina against France.

• 1:55:01Speaker 06

  Mbappe.

• 1:55:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And Mbappe scored the three goals and they came back and the goalie saved the goal at the 121st minute, whatever it was, or else Argentina would have lost.

• 1:55:10Speaker 06

  I don't.

• 1:55:10Patrick Bet-David?

  This is gonna be an insane. The last World Series was the greatest World Series ever. The last World Cup Finals was the greatest World Cup Finals ever.

• 1:55:19Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 1:55:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Ever. And by the way, that's.

• 1:55:21Speaker 06

  Your boy Messi?

• 1:55:21Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not, not just Messi. Mbappe had three goals in the flipping finals.

• 1:55:27Speaker 06

  That's unheard of.

• 1:55:28Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta, this is crazy.

• 1:55:29Speaker 06

  That's like hitting five home runs.

• 1:55:31Patrick Bet-David?

  He single-handedly almost beat the GOAT.

• 1:55:33Tom Ellsworth?

  And throwing the shutout.

• 1:55:34Patrick Bet-David?

  And if it wasn't for the France. If, if Argentina doesn't have the goalie that they have, who was a, by the way, he was the MVP of the, of the World Cup Finals. If they don't have the goalie, they don't win the chip.

• 1:55:47Speaker 06

  They don't.

• 1:55:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Messi doesn't have the chip. So it's gonna be interesting to see what happens.

• 1:55:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know if I agree with Rubio on this, by the way.

• 1:55:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Of what?

• 1:55:53Speaker 06

  Really?

• 1:55:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Letting the IRG terrorists into our country. Bring them on in. Let's do what they do and hold them hostage.

• 1:56:01Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:56:01Tom Ellsworth?

  And let's, let's interrogate these people. They're not just gonna start running around exploding things like that.

• 1:56:06Speaker 06

  Well.

• 1:56:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's, if they're not gonna show up in Pakistan for peace negotiations, let's bring them to America. Let's talk with these IRGC. Let's show them how great.

• 1:56:16Speaker 06

  Yeah, but I just feel, I think it's dangerous too because you're gonna bring, like, let's say they travel with like fifth, what Tom, 20 people, Pat? 20 soccer players? They're gonna interview them. They're obviously gonna get, ask questions about the IRGC, you know? Those guys, like, the words that come out of their mouth can get them killed when they go back. I think.

• 1:56:35Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't want any IRGC imposters here to slit their throats for losing in an American hotel. Wait till they get back home to Iran and.

• 1:56:42Speaker 06

  Yeah, let them.

• 1:56:43Tom Ellsworth?

  They're already here.

• 1:56:44Speaker 06

  But I just think it could be dangerous, meaning as an athlete, you're gonna, this is gonna be in your face and the cameras are gonna be in your face all day, all, all they're gonna ask is, so how do you feel about, you know, the people that run your country? What are they gonna say?

• 1:56:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me get to the next story. So by the way, while this is happening, the president comes out Iranian. Iran was gonna execute eight women and Trump says Iran won't execute eight women after he pleaded for their release and this story comes out and social media is like these are AI women, these are not real women. Is this it by the way, is this the story Rob?

• 1:57:14Tom Ellsworth?

  This is the president, yes.

• 1:57:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, go ahead Rob.

• 1:57:16Speaker 00

  The military operation, whatever you want to call it. And they're coming to us. The problem they have is they are very disorganized right now. Well, now yesterday, and I was very pleased with this, eight young women were going to be executed yesterday afternoon at six o'clock. And I, I asked them, call it a favor or call it just a moral request that they not be executed and they came back with an answer that they won't be executed. They're gonna release who was protesting. Eight beautiful young women, very young women and they were, the picture's in the paper. And it's been a story for a little while and I saw that and I, I said,

• 1:57:57Speaker 00

  let's see if we can save them and they were, it was very nice what happened. So they're not going to be, what they're doing is, as you know, they're releasing four of them very shortly and they're gonna keep four of them in jail for a period of one month and release them. So they won't be executed.

• 1:58:14Speaker 06

  I mean, first of all, he, he's reporting, they're obviously in communication. They save, like, let's just, regardless of how you're feeling and people are gonna BS AI, it wasn't AI, they're actually women, he's saving these girls' lives. And then Iran, the IRGC, obviously Reuters reported, they're saying none of it was real. Of course they're gonna say that. Like, you, you really think that regime is gonna come out and say, yeah, yeah, we're gonna hang all eight of these women until Trump says something? It's like, give me a break. And here's a part that people are missing, even if you take Iran at their word for a second, which I don't, Trump's still putting it in the spotlight, which matters. Now these girls' names are out there and it's public and everybody knows about it. And by the way, these, the, the, these regimes don't like attention when it comes to that. They don't like pressure.

• 1:58:58Speaker 06

  The second the world is watching, they, they start moving different. So either Trump stops something that was gonna happen or he forced them to back off quietly and now they're saving face. It's like, you got, you have to admit at least some- Something positive happened, especially if it's true.

• 1:59:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's a lot of specificity in his story. It's obviously true. It's it's nice that he cares. He's been outspoken about the people who are going to be executed. For some time, it's been going on for obviously, this isn't the only isolated incident of people being executed in Iran. And I think he's put in tremendous work to try and continuously try and save those people. And it's weird that we're at a point, by the way, this is something that's odd to just hear where people are like, well, I don't believe Trump. I believe the IRGC. Like you're an American living in the United States and you're choosing to believe a radical regime that's massacring its own people over our own president. Like, how did we get to that point?

• 1:59:44Speaker 06

  But that's that's the Trump dude. That's how much they hate him that automatically they hear that story and they go, it's full of crap.

• 1:59:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think so, because there's there's people even on the woke right that are saying this is fake. I don't I don't think this is just a a left thing. The TD the TDS people, I expected. I don't think that's ever going away. That's going to be around. The part is when the conservatives.

• 2:00:06Speaker 03

  That's scary.

• 2:00:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Who voted for him, who are like, no, this is fake. He's just doing this. There's so much of that today. There's so much of that today, which, you know, will be interesting what will happen the next two years. I'm actually curious, a lot of these woke right people, how they're going to react in 2028. I wonder what hat they're going to put on, what mask they're going to put on, what mask is going to come off.

• 2:00:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:00:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Or come on. I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen in 2028. I have my own speculation, what I think will take place. But Adam, your thoughts?

• 2:00:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, the IRGC spared these. They're such, what sweet people they are. They spared these eight women. Guys, forget about the 50,000 people we just killed. How how long ago was that? How? I'm old enough to remember that was two months ago. Oh, they're so sweet. Oh, this is a PR stunt. And I'm not sure if Trump fell for it or whatever. Much credit to saving eight women's lives, if they actually saved them. But let's not, uh, let's not forget, these people are willing to kill their own people in mass scale. I don't know if you have time to show this 30 second clip from General Mattis talking about. How a full-on autocrat regime will stay in power and the 70 indicators, do you have that, Rob?

• 2:01:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Seventy? Seventy indicators of how an autocratic regime will stay in power. And he says there's one indicator that outweighs them all. And he talks about, are they willing to murder their own people at an industrial level? Can we play this clip?

• 2:01:37Patrick Bet-David?

  You said 30 seconds? Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:01:40Tom Ellsworth?

  You probably could never make any of the Israelis against Arabs. I mean, that regime in charge. Yes, right here. We have seen one administration after another try to find what I call the Go 10 more seconds. Fruitless pursuit of the Iranalizing the regime. This is it, right here. To show you how we learn about them. They have a list of, what are the indicators of an autocrat staying in power? There's over 70 indicators and they look at all these things. One of them, one of those indicators outweighs all the rest. Will the regime murder their own people at the industrial level? If they will, they're going to stay in power.

• 2:02:23Tom Ellsworth?

  You have an unarmed population up against a very well-armed regime that is fighting a total war right now. Total war. We're fighting a limited war. The American president a week ago called it a little excursion. But they are fighting for their lives, the mullahs are, because... The point that I was making is, we're, you know, we're, this geopolitical thing, how do you solve for someone that is willing to murder their own people? Our country went crazy when two people were protesting against ICE, got in the way, our country went insane. They killed 50,000, what's the number? I don't know.

• 2:03:02Speaker 06

  Nobody knows, actually.

• 2:03:03Tom Ellsworth?

  And nobody even bats an eye.

• 2:03:04Patrick Bet-David?

  The number they've reported is 3117. Then you have a 30,000 number, you have a 100,000 number. You pick and choose which one you want to believe. But IRGC's number, they reported, is 3117. And if you believe it... We got, we got, I got a kid to sell you here.

• 2:03:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly.

• 2:03:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I got, I got a bunch of, Adam's got a bunch of good stuff to sell you here if you actually believe the number that RBC reports is accurate.

• 2:03:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Not in a year, not over the course of a war, in a weekend.

• 2:03:28Speaker 03

  It's a week.

• 2:03:29Tom Ellsworth?

  That's who we're dealing with here.

• 2:03:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So, okay, which, I mean, talking about murdering and, you know, how tragic that is. Uh, Mike Vrabel, a story is, is coming out with, what is going on there, Rob, with this story of Mike Vrabel?

• 2:03:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Apparently photos came out of Mike Vrabel and, uh, the ESPN reporter that he was with, uh, five years ago. And there's also reports that the woman that he was with, Diana Rossini.

• 2:03:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, her son is named Michael.

• 2:04:01Patrick Bet-David?

  After Mike Vrabel.

• 2:04:03Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what the internet is saying.

• 2:04:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And she's, she apparently asked a question saying after, you know, a couple of days after, uh, uh, having the kid, four days later, she asked, "Who is the greatest Michael who was an athlete and a coach?" Apparently she asked that question. I don't know if you guys saw that, that one or not. Uh, uh, no, you type in greatest Michael, it's gonna be Michael Jordan. I'm just saying you gotta put her name first.

• 2:04:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Michael Jackson.

• 2:04:27Patrick Bet-David?

  So, what, what, Elon, where are you at with this story? What are you thinking about this story here with Mike Vrabel?

• 2:04:33Speaker 03

  Uh, you know, I think in the end of the day, like, it's, it's a, it's a good example of who you are as a human being versus your ability to do the job. So, uh, pretty much that's where I'm at with it. And I think it's good that they took accountability right away. They, they didn't hide from it. I think that's all you can ask for, but I mean, yeah.

• 2:04:51Patrick Bet-David?

  They both took accountability right away.

• 2:04:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, from what I read. Am I wrong on that?

• 2:04:55Patrick Bet-David?

  He stepped away, Rob?

• 2:04:56Speaker 03

  He stepped away temporarily, he did.

• 2:04:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Stepped away temporarily.

• 2:04:58Tom Ellsworth?

  In the middle of the draft. The draft was yesterday, by the way.

• 2:05:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:05:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And, uh, they were both married?

• 2:05:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:05:05Patrick Bet-David?

  They were both married. And I, I saw a report about the husband, the moment he found out, he cut every account. He called to see the spending of what happened on the account when they were on vacation to see how he spent, how she spent his money. A bunch of things happened. How do you process this yourself, Vinnie?

• 2:05:20Speaker 06

  I, I mean, I don't know where they're at with their, their faith and how deep they're on, but I'm not judging at all. I sin, everybody freaking sins, but to be that big in the spotlight and you're Mike Vrabel, Super Bowl champ and all that stuff, you're a role model to people. Besides the organization and your family and her family, it's just, I mean, and that's it, but the devil is so freaking good. Your life is going great. You have everything. You have all the money. You have all the excess, all the success, and then all of a sudden, it's lust. It's that feeling. It's the adultery. And I mean, the top 10, Adam, commandments, not good.

• 2:05:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Honestly, this, I haven't been following this story. I don't want to weigh in here, but is he, he's the coach? And who was the lady here?

• 2:06:04Patrick Bet-David?

  She's a reporter, apparently.

• 2:06:06Tom Ellsworth?

  And they had a relationship?

• 2:06:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Had a relationship.

• 2:06:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, and I'm genuinely curious, what's wrong with that?

• 2:06:11Speaker 03

  They're married. Both of them were married.

• 2:06:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, so it's a cheating story?

• 2:06:14Speaker 03

  Yes. Yeah, for years.

• 2:06:15Tom Ellsworth?

  So, playing devil's advocate, what's wrong with that?

• 2:06:18Speaker 03

  Well, cheating.

• 2:06:18Speaker 06

  What do you mean, they're both?

• 2:06:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, in the eyes of God, I get it, but does he lose his job because he's cheating? Like, what happens?

• 2:06:24Speaker 03

  You look, there are ethical standards in sports, like if people violate certain ethical standards.

• 2:06:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, now we're using ethical standards in sports?

• 2:06:32Speaker 03

  I'm just saying.

• 2:06:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Now that's what's going on here? The former coach of the New York, New England Patriots, 75 years old, is dating a 25-year-old.

• 2:06:40Speaker 03

  But he's not cheating on a wife.

• 2:06:42Tom Ellsworth?

  No, we're not using social standards. We're talking about the moral interpretative clauses that are in all the contracts. No, I don't know the story here.

• 2:06:49Speaker 03

  Let me go to Tom then.

• 2:06:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Are we saying that you can't cheat? Is that what this is?

• 2:06:53Speaker 03

  Go ahead, Tom.

• 2:06:53Tom Ellsworth?

  You lose your job? I'm trying to recover from what I just heard. Tom, you're gonna be okay, buddy. Yeah, I don't know. So, there are moral interpretative clauses in this. He is in a position of leadership. He needs to represent himself. The NFL does or does not have a women's abuse problem dating back a decade, until things started popping up, everything from, you know, a running back slapping his wife slash girlfriend around in an elevator, to things that have been going on, and yes, and then trying to train their athletes and let them know, you know, what clique chasers are, go get the bag, baby. You can see all these videos that women put on social media, and then you just see men behaving badly.

• 2:07:36Tom Ellsworth?

  And a team wants, needs a leader at the front. And the leader at the front has to say, if I'm gonna accept the check and I'm gonna accept the mantle of being this leader, I have to stand up for some standards. And I can't say that I want to take, you know, $5 million a year to be your leader and your coach, but don't look at my private life that's now become very, very public and messy. Just look at the way I lead in the locker room and lead these young men that are getting great big checks and all sorts of things can trip them up. I'm sorry. This is a non-qualifier. If I was the owner, I would be like, "Look, your personal life is your personal life, but you just spilled over onto this and we need you to be an example to these men, and we need to do this."

• 2:08:18Tom Ellsworth?

  If you want to do it and you want to go down to Division II and just hide out at some small school and live your life, this is great. But this is the harsh spotlight of the NFL and you're here and I can't have this.

• 2:08:31Speaker 06

  And think about the, Adam, think about-

• 2:08:32Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's a moral trip or turn clause in your contract, right there.

• 2:08:35Speaker 06

  Yup, in the contract, Tom, and then think about it, Adam. Your, your team, your organization, what teams he play for? Is it Tennessee?

• 2:08:40Tom Ellsworth?

  No, uh, uh- No, New England Patriots.

• 2:08:42Speaker 06

  Okay, wait. So the thing about the Patriots, okay, besides the owner sleeping with-

• 2:08:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Taking the mantle of the great franchise.

• 2:08:48Speaker 06

  You're taking them, yeah, the, the great franchise, number one, the number two, the distraction. You're about to start an NFL season and ev- I don't, li- listen, the, the, that's all they're gonna talk about. That's all they're gonna say, every athlete, every, everybody's, so how do you feel about your freaking, is he the head coach?

• 2:09:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. Yes.

• 2:09:06Speaker 06

  Are you kidding me, bro? Besides the moral part of it, the whole season is gonna be about that. It's gonna be about that. I don't know, Tom, I don't know how long, if they keep him or not, because that's a huge distraction. It's huge.

• 2:09:17Tom Ellsworth?

  But she doesn't work for the team, right? She's a-

• 2:09:20Speaker 03

  No, she's a journalist, yeah.

• 2:09:21Speaker 06

  She's a journalist, but still.

• 2:09:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, do you remember, uh, uh, this is my opinion, I don't think anything's gonna happen. Uh, that's my opinion, I could be wrong, come check me when the season starts. Because Robert Kraft, I think, has defended him. By the way, Robert Kraft, arguably the greatest owner in NFL, with all the championships, one of the England. Do you remember? He was accused of getting massages and all this stuff. Oh, my God, he's married. He's like, I don't know what's gonna happen here. I think he's gonna give him the benefit of the doubt. I think slap on the wrist. Hey, man, you know, make a public example. Let's go. Let's you just. You took a team to the Super Bowl. You're not gonna fire the coach because he has a inappropriate relationship with the reporter. It's not an appropriate.

• 2:09:58Speaker 03

  I think they're gonna tell him how to handle it publicly, as long as it goes over well. And again, the accountability factor. People are very forgiving in situations.

• 2:10:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you remember what happened?

• 2:10:06Speaker 03

  We all sin. Like, that's my fundamental starting point. Just own it, you know.

• 2:10:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you remember what happened with the head coach of the Boston Celtics a couple of years ago? Ime Udoka, do you remember that? He had an inappropriate relationship with someone that worked in the company.

• 2:10:20Speaker 06

  11:20.

• 2:10:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Now he coaches Houston.

• 2:10:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Do we have any other stories left?

• 2:10:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Do we have any other stories left? The only other one was the missing scientists.

• 2:10:28Speaker 03

  Oh, that one's interesting, though.

• 2:10:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Amy one, do you want to go to that? Or Noah's Ark.

• 2:10:33Speaker 03

  Noah's Ark is also interesting.

• 2:10:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's do Amy Eskridge. So go to Amy Eskridge, the scientist. Elon, what do you know about Amy Eskridge? This is one of the scientists.

• 2:10:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, so she wasn't a NASA scientist. She worked in kind of like an alternative type of propulsion. She was working on anti-gravity propulsion. She's from 2022. This story kind of blew over a while ago. It blew over three, four years ago when it came out. People didn't pay much attention to it, but Reddit forums were talking about how it doesn't seem like she committed suicide. And her last video that she had before she committed suicide is very weird, where she's talking about being surveyed by a Russian guy, and then all this stuff is going on, her and her ex-boyfriend. The reason this is popular again is because there's been a recent spout of a lot of NASA scientists dying in mysterious ways in a short amount of time, all related to very specific things, propulsion. Space exploration and nuclear programs, which is with high clearances, high military

• 2:11:26Speaker 03

  clearances to the point where it's actually being looked at now seriously. So this is the starting point of it. And I find the story just very weird because it's one of those stories like it's truth is weirder than fiction in this case. This is something you would build a movie around. And here we are looking at this story. And I've gotten to the point with things where I'm like, anything is possible. So it's, this is, I don't know if this is the video, but you'll see her talking briefly.

• 2:11:48Speaker 06

  And it's so bad, like, you know, people try to like, just like you said, brush it over. Well, yesterday was 13, did it hit 13 people that are connected somehow to this? And they're either disappearing, there is a sprinkle of UFO talking there, David.

• 2:12:01Speaker 03

  Or propulsion.

• 2:12:02Speaker 06

  Or propulsion, all, all that type of stuff. And it's like, and some of these people have come out blatantly into a camera pan and said, I am not suicidal. I don't plan on killing myself.

• 2:12:12Speaker 03

  And then bam.

• 2:12:13Speaker 06

  It doesn't make any sense. Adam, it's not like three or four people. And I know some people like, well, that one's not really connected. No, no, they're in the same.

• 2:12:20Speaker 03

  They are connected. One of them was actually, uh, one died, and then the person they worked for, I believe, had died, or had some direct connection to a position of power over them had passed away.

• 2:12:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Do we have a video of her saying that she wouldn't kill herself?

• 2:12:31Speaker 06

  Yeah. Adam, you have that one?

• 2:12:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that the video?

• 2:12:34Speaker 03

  In this video, she's just talking about how weird it is that she's being surveyed. It's her final video.

• 2:12:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Which one? This one right here, the 32? Play that, play that clip, Rob.

• 2:12:43Speaker 07

  I can learn a new field in three months. Name a field. I don't care what it is. Engineering, science, physics, material science, math.

• 2:12:51Speaker 06

  Yes, not though the.

• 2:12:53Tom Ellsworth?

  The only other one I can see is four minutes long. And she's.

• 2:12:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's the, yeah.

• 2:12:58Tom Ellsworth?

  This is Amy? That's the one that found deceased?

• 2:13:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, this is the one.

• 2:13:01Patrick Bet-David?

  There's about 12 of these guys that this has happened with. There's another guy named, what's his name? Wilcox.

• 2:13:08Speaker 06

  David Wilcox?

• 2:13:09Patrick Bet-David?

  David Wilcox, uh, who said, I would not commit suicide in 2022. He went through that as well. And he was another one of these engineers. Four of them are tied to NASA and JPL. Four of them are tied to, uh, weapon, fusion, uh, nuclear, and then three of them are tied to, you know, security, high level security clearance that they had, that they were taken out. This, David Wilcox. I plan on living, not suicidal at all, just concerned about what happens when you prove God is real.

• 2:13:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 2:13:37Speaker 06

  And that was 2022, but I mean, Adam, he stayed on message. He hasn't changed.

• 2:13:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Is he still alive?

• 2:13:42Speaker 06

  No, he just, two days ago, he, suicide.

• 2:13:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, okay, so this is three years ago.

• 2:13:47Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:13:47Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll see.

• 2:13:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Pat, what do you think is happening here?

• 2:13:49Patrick Bet-David?

  We, we, we talked about this with John Kiriyaku. I don't really have an opinion on it, but it just, it's, and by the way, the scientists, it's not just US. There are scientists that disappearing in China. There are scientists that are disappearing in Iran. There are scientists that are disappearing all over the place. We know about the Invention Secrecy Act of 1951, that the government has been hiding 6,000 patents for years because they were worried about possible competition for oil or cancer. A lot of industry will be disrupted if they find real solutions. So imagine if you're part of a trillion dollar industry in oil and then all of a sudden there's a replacement, you think they're gonna be like, oh, what a noble thing. We no longer need gas. No. That we have anti-gravity.

• 2:14:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Release it. This is great. Cancer, you mean to tell me we can, for, release it ASAP?

• 2:14:37Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:14:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So the fear people have is, that's what's going on. Anyways, at the end of it, follow the money, yes. Gang, have a great weekend. We will do this again on Monday. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.