Hormuz Blockade + Swalwell Drops Out | PBD #776

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana break down the collapse of U. S.-Iran nuclear peace talks, escalating Strait of Hormuz blockade threats impacting global oil markets and energy prices, Viktor Orbán conceding defeat in Hungary’s election fallout, and Donald Trump warning China amid rising U. S.-China tensions, trade war concerns, and Middle East geopolitical conflict. ------ 👍 LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE! 👞 GET THE FLB1S: https://bit.ly/4eiIDXY Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠ 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:14Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here. You are a one of one? My son's right, brother. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my god. Hope you had a good weekend. Lots of stuff going on. I had a wild weekend, which I'll tell you here in a minute what wild means to me. But before we get into my wild weekend, let me tell you what's going on. Oil prices, people are worried with this blockade. That it may be going to 140 to 200 if this continues and they don't find a way to figure it out. J D Vance goes out there to try to negotiate. 21 hours later, nothing happens. He says it's bad for Iran. J D Vance went to Hungary to help Viktor Orban. And Viktor, no, not, where did he go to? He went to?

• 1:03Speaker 02

  Pakistan.

• 1:03Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, not Hungary. Islamabad. He went to sit down to help Viktor Orban on the campaign.

• 1:10Speaker 02

  Oh, a while ago.

• 1:11Patrick Bet-David?

  And then Orban, and no, this was a week ago, a few days ago, five days ago. Okay, that attack took place. So Orban ends up losing in a massive way, right? 16 years we're talking about they were in charge. They're saying some corruption. Putin got him up to want to help. Netanyahu got him up to want to help. Trump was trying to help. Alex Soros, the Soros family hasn't been this happy in a long time. In a long time, and we'll talk about why that is. Trump posted one of the Truth socials about the blockade. We have to get into that. There's a recording of the president saying, I don't want, I don't want just a little bit of things. I want all of it. I want, I don't want 90%. I want 95% of everything I ask for from Iran. We're gonna see if that's gonna take place or not.

• 1:57Patrick Bet-David?

  At the same time, there was a tweet from the president with, you know, depicting as if he's a, you know,

• 2:04Speaker 02

  Jesus.

• 2:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Jesus, putting his hands over people. Lots of reaction to it. There's gonna be reaction here as well. That will talk about, you know, the UFC happened over the weekend. Wasn't really a crazy card that they put out, but I gotta tell you, it was a sick card that you win. And sometimes you go to a card and it's big names and it disappoints. This one, it wasn't big names, but it was a phenomenal, the last three fights, phenomenal, phenomenal three fights. Especially the last one, you thought the guy was over with. He comes back and ends up winning. Adam was in the bathroom, but it was unbelievable when that took place. And what else can I tell you? So we got all this stuff, inflation. We have to talk about the economy. These AI, what do you call it? Data centers that they're building in Missouri.

• 2:47Patrick Bet-David?

  We have to address the Missouri situation with the data center. The 6 billion. Tom's got a lot of stuff to say. Somebody came out and apparently threw something at Sam Altman's house with Molotov cocktail. You know, people are, because, you know, they're saying it may have some ties to maybe people are upset about the data centers. Who knows? We'll get into that as well. Kamala Harris, folks, your favorite person, came out and she's hinting. She's hinting that maybe your dream can become a reality for 2028. I have a feeling a ton of people are running in 2028. Election, I think it's gonna be crazy with a lot of people running in 2028. Yes. And then what am I missing here story wise? Oil, Pope, we have to talk about Pope. Humberto said, don't talk about the Pope. We have to talk about the Pope.

• 3:31Speaker 02

  He hates that. He doesn't like it.

• 3:33Patrick Bet-David?

  He doesn't like it, but it is what it is. He's gotta get over it. It is happening. And then this guy named Eric.

• 3:38Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 3:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if you're tracking this guy's weekend.

• 3:40Speaker 02

  He's a saint.

• 3:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Rough weekend for Eric Swalwell. Maybe he likes it like that, but it was a rough weekend for him. You know, it was a rough weekend for him with some of the old clips came out. Some people are saying the Democrats have been sitting on these clips for many years. Everybody knows he's just trying to finally say you don't want him and, you know, maybe you don't even want, who's my girl? Katie?

• 3:59Speaker 02

  Katie Porter.

• 4:00Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, and who knows they won? They may not even want Tom Sawyer, right? Who are you gonna want?

• 4:04Speaker 02

  Tom Steyer.

• 4:05Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 4:06Speaker 02

  Sawyer also.

• 4:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Or Tom Steyer.

• 4:07Speaker 02

  Huckleberry Ten's now running.

• 4:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you kidding me? Tom Sawyer has a higher chance of winning than your Tom Steyer guy.

• 4:14Speaker 02

  That's probably true. I think that's true. Tom Steyer will throw more money at the race. But it was definitely a bad day leaderboard for Eric, man.

• 4:20Patrick Bet-David?

  It is, and we got some clips to show you. It's semi-soft porn, but we will show you. Uh, no kids watching today, and when we do, we will make sure to tell you. Uh, earmuffs. And, uh, what's, what is earmuffs and what, what's I?

• 4:31Speaker 02

  Let the boy watch.

• 4:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, no, not, no plums, no plums today. But let me tell you what happened on my weekend. Let me tell you what happened on my weekend. Let me tell you what happened on my weekend. Let me tell you what happened on my weekend. So Saturday I come in, the last three weeks I've been already crazy enough, but, uh, for different reasons, but, uh, I come in Saturday, we put a soccer game, 7v7, it's the sickest game. One guy gets injured, I said, guys, I'll come in, I had my soccer shoes with me, Dylan's playing, it's going great. I come in, I play, Vinny, and I'm thinking I'm 27, I'm making some good moves, I made a couple sick passes, I'm playing defense. I'm getting this guy named Ethan who thinks he knows what he's doing in soccer, I'm putting him in his place. Although he scored more goals than anybody else, and he is actually really good. Okay.

• 5:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, all of a sudden I'm in the corner, playing defense with this Cuban boxer, and I make this one move, boom, and then I fall. I'm like, what was that all about? My, my knee buckles and I fall, I get up, I'm like, no, I got this, I said, give me a break, guys, it's gonna be fine. So I try to come and do it again, at this point, I no longer have control of my knee. I'm like, what the hell is going on with this knee? No joke, so I said, I got, guys, I can't play, you guys, I try to do goalie, I'm like, I can't even stand up, so I come out. But there's zero pain. Yeah. So then a friend of ours has come in Levitan, who I haven't seen for 16 years. He comes in, Joe, we go out, we have dinner, we have a good time together, and then, uh, uh, I get a call, you know, we get 10 tickets to the UFC fight. So at this point, I don't know if we're gonna go or not because of what happened to the knee.

• 5:59Patrick Bet-David?

  And I said, listen, it's probably not that bad. I probably just, you know, strained something or something happened. And then we go to the UFC fight. All night, I'm walking like a, you know, and you know what kind of a limp like,

• 6:10Speaker 02

  Like,

• 6:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, let me,

• 6:11Speaker 02

  My palm pile.

• 6:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, like one of those,

• 6:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Old school, you know, low rider, you know, just walking around with my little limp that I got going on at UFC. Everyone's like, is this guy doing it on purpose or not? And this pain is not going to, I got ice, I got braces, I got all this stuff.

• 6:27Speaker 02

  Advil.

• 6:27Patrick Bet-David?

  It's my dad's 84th birthday. Then we come home at like 1:32 o'clock. We go to sleep. I wake up in the morning. I'm like, I gotta get an MRI. I go to Miami. I get my MRI done. I'm like, it's probably not a big deal. And then the New York Giants ortho, the guy that's for the football players, he says, um, you tore your ACL.

• 6:46Speaker 02

  Stop it.

• 6:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, what did you say?

• 6:47Speaker 02

  PBD.

• 6:48Patrick Bet-David?

  He said, you tore your ACL. I said, tell me you're joking. He says, no. You've torn, he says, your cartilages look great. I've never seen better cartilages than this at 47 years old than the ones you have.

• 6:59Speaker 02

  That's the good news.

• 7:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Meniscus looks okay, but you have a torn ACL.

• 7:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, so what do I do? He says, it's only a six to nine month recovery. I'm like, what are you talking about? I walk when I'm speaking and I'm, he says, now you have to do a full on reconstructive surgery, all this stuff. So I walked,

• 7:14Speaker 02

  Are you kidding me?

• 7:15Patrick Bet-David?

  The entire night at UFC, I walked him with a torn ACL.

• 7:18Speaker 02

  He just walked in here. He's not doing the crutches or anything. I'm standing at the door because I'm here early these days. PBD walks in. I think he's doing a little, Yeah, yeah. Little move with the limp skid, DJ.

• 7:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So anyways.

• 7:29Speaker 02

  DJ Laz vibes. So what's going to happen now with the leg?

• 7:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Have to do surgery.

• 7:32Speaker 02

  Stop it, Pat.

• 7:33Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you talking about?

• 7:34Speaker 02

  Why are they playing soccer out there?

• 7:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Six to nine months. What do you mean? I got a kid. I want to play with the guys. I'm not going to not go play.

• 7:40Speaker 02

  How does this affect our stair racing situation?

• 7:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, that one, I'm glad it's documented. We know one thing for a fact. You know what's,

• 7:46Speaker 02

  You're faster.

• 7:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny?

• 7:47Speaker 02

  I have.

• 7:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No more skiing and snowboarding for you ever again.

• 7:52Speaker 02

  That's why I play video games because let those little digital guys do all the work.

• 7:56Patrick Bet-David?

  And one of these days I'll tell the whole story, but this is God's way of saying, listen, man, you know, you know what I'm saying?

• 8:00Speaker 02

  Slow down.

• 8:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, all right. So that's what's going on here. In the interim, before we get into the story,

• 8:04Speaker 02

  Ain't going to be no repeat.

• 8:05Patrick Bet-David?

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• 8:48Patrick Bet-David?

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• 9:30Patrick Bet-David?

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• 9:43Speaker 02

  You weren't playing soccer in them, were you?

• 9:45Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I wasn't playing soccer.

• 9:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Had he been playing soccer in these shoes, he would have had proper arch support and not hurt that.

• 9:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's some good news for a lot of you guys that were asking for different sizes. We just got thousands of them that just came in, which we're very excited about. Don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean we have 500 by each size. It just means we have 45 to 80 of each size. So if you haven't yet ordered yours, black, white, navy blue, or champagne, go place the order. A new color will be coming out in three months, which we'll be launching. We're very excited about. And potentially sneakers in the future Christmas season, but stay tuned for that. So go to VTMerch.com, place an order for your size. or your loved one. Having said that, let's get right into it. Trump announces Strait of Hormuz blockade. After Iran talks collapse. Here's the president. So there you have it. The meeting went well. Most points were agreed.

• 10:37Patrick Bet-David?

  But the only point that really mattered nuclear was not effective immediately. The United States Navy, the finest in the world will begin the process of blockading. Any and all ships trying to enter or leave the Strait of Hormuz. At some point we will reach. And all being allowed to go in, all being allowed to go out bases, but Iran has not allowed that to happen by merely saying. There may be a mine out there somewhere that nobody knows about but them. This is world extortion and leaders of countries, especially in the US. Will never be extorted. I've also instructed our, our Navy to seek and inter uh. Interdict every vessel in international waters that has paid a toll to Iran.

• 11:18Patrick Bet-David?

  No one who pays an illegal toll will have safe passage on the, on the. High seas. We will also begin destroying the mines. The Iranians laid in the straits, any Iranian who fires at us or at peaceful vessels will be blown to hell. Iran knows better than anyone how to end this situation, which has. Already devastated their country, their Navy is gone, their air force is gone, their anti aircraft. And radar are useless. Khomeini, uh, uh, he probably meant to say Khomeini and their leaders are dead. All uh because of their nuclear ambition, their blockade, the blockade will begin shortly. Other countries will. Be involved with the blockade. Iran will not be allowed to profit of this illegal act of extortion.

• 12:00Patrick Bet-David?

  They want more and uh, they want money and more importantly, they want nuclear additionally and at an appropriate moment. We will fully be lock and loaded and our military will finish up the little. That is left of Iran. So that announcement is made. You look at oil prices right now, Rob, if you want to go to it real quick, just to kind of see where we are. With it as of right now, oil prices, maybe press a refresh. Is it, is it uh live? 103.39. There you go. 103.39. It was at 105 in the morning. It went all the way up to 119. They're saying if this continues for another week or two. Could be looking at 140, even if a little bit longer, we could be looking at 200, which is pretty wild to be thinking about. And J.D. Vance himself was out there, I believe,

• 12:43Patrick Bet-David?

  trying to negotiate with Iran. He even said that it went for 21 hours, and I think in an interview, Rob, if you have it, he says it's bad for Iran, it's not good for Iran after 21 hours of negotiation that they had about the blockade. And the president came out and said something, hopefully we'll find a clip to show you, but he came out and said, is this the one, Rob? Yes, one of them. Go for it.

• 13:08Speaker 04

  How often did you communicate with President Trump throughout the negotiations? There are reports that there were multiple rounds where there were breaks in between negotiations. How often did you communicate with the president throughout those rounds? And what was he saying as you were going through these negotiations that you said felt short?

• 13:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, obviously, we were talking to the president consistently. I don't know how many times we talked to him, a half dozen times, a dozen times over the past 21 hours. We obviously also talked to Admiral Cooper, to Pete, to Marco, to the entire national security team. We talked to Scott Bessin a number of times. So, look, we were constantly in communication with the team because we were negotiating in good faith.

• 13:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there, Tom. You can pause it right there, Rob. Okay, so, Tom, what do you think about the blockade?

• 13:49Tom Ellsworth?

  So, let's take a look at a map, so everybody can understand, because over the weekend, that's it right there, Rob. Get that one. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, that one. Okay, so take a look at this. On the lower side is Oman. The dark blue water is Oman. And there's the two old shipping lanes when the Strait of Hormuz was operating before the war. See it? One goes this way, one goes that way. Those are known as shipping lanes, and they keep two miles in between for bad weather, fog, you know, all the kinds of things you want. So, these boats go this way and that way. That's the way it was before.

• 14:27Tom Ellsworth?

  You see the red gridded area there? Where Iran has declared it a hazardous area, see that square there, Pat?

• 14:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 14:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Iran has said, "We put a bunch of mines in here, but we can't remember where we put them." That's why the president, in his quote that you just read...

• 14:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you believe they really don't know where it's at?

• 14:45Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I believe they're using the unknown to force their offer, which is, see the two lanes that now run through the pink? The pink, although light red, is Iran territory waters, and they're trying to force the shipping lanes to reroute. They're gonna put the toll booth on La Raca Island. See that right there with the two lanes?

• 15:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 15:07Tom Ellsworth?

  One goes this way, one goes that way. So they're saying, "Hey, you're gonna pay a toll to us, this is where it's gonna go, and gosh, I wish I could help you with those shipping lanes down there, but I got mines in the area." So, the president is saying, "Screw you, I'm gonna blockade you on those new shipping lanes that you're offering, that your own boats are shipping through, and we're gonna go clear any mines out of the old shipping lanes by Oman, and we're gonna get life back to order." That's what the president is saying on an operational level. These are the actions he's gonna take. On the other side, Iran wasn't given. And they weren't given, which has kinda put him in the, "Alright, you know, you're not

• 15:50Tom Ellsworth?

  gonna give up, so I'm gonna go blockade the other way." But ladies and gentlemen, that's why you're hearing Iran saying, "We're blockading," using it because they say there's mines, and we say, "Nope, we're gonna blockade," saying we're gonna block the new lanes that have been offered by Iran.

• 16:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam?

• 16:07Speaker 06

  So, US is winning, Iran is losing, and everyone else is trying to pick up the pieces of what's actually going on. It's very interesting to me to see, obviously, we saw the tweet that Trump did when he called out everybody, especially the MAGA crowd, who's basically abandoned Trump. It's like, you don't abandon the guy that got you here. So the question with Trump now regarding Hormuz, and just the overall Trump situation, is, is Trump betraying his base? Or is he actually just following through to what he's always said? So, if you just look at Trump's track record, and then I'm gonna get to the Strait of Hormuz, he came in in 2015, came down the escalator, in that speech, everyone, he addressed the Mexican situation, they're rapists, and this, and that, and some are good people. What was missed from that speech is he called out Iran.

• 16:51Speaker 06

  In his first major speech, okay, gotcha. He's exited the JCPOA, the Iran nuclear agreement. I don't want to curse right now, but he said, "I'm gonna bomb this out of them." Do you remember that quote? Then he did it. Yeah, I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. He said this years ago. He takes out Soleimani. By the way, took out ISIS. Where are they these days? He was in the 12-day war, the bombing of the nuclear facilities. He did a Muslim ban and all of a sudden people are like, "Dude, where'd this come from? I thought you didn't want any new wars with Iran." I view it this way. Trump's not starting a new war. He's ending a war with Iran that we've been at war with for 47 years. Now let's talk about the Strait of Hormuz.

• 17:34Speaker 06

  This is all Iran's got left. We've taken out their military. We've taken out their navy. Do they even have an air force? Do they even have defensive missile capabilities? Defensive? They're making themselves enemies of all their neighbors. They're a social pariah and all they got left is the Strait of Hormuz. So it's an economic war over oil. So I'll ask you this. Remember the famous situation where Trump and JD Vance were in the Oval Office and they're dressing down Zelensky? He's like, "You don't have the cards. You don't have the cards." Now Iran jokingly goes, "Yeah, well, we have a strait. The Strait of Hormuz." And Trump's using this blockade and saying, "Oh, really? Nice strait. Boom. Here's a royal flush. I'm gonna blockade. You're blockade. You think you're crazy? I'm crazier than you."

• 18:19Speaker 06

  The bottom line is this. Trump has all the cards. He has all the leverage and now Iran is gonna have to scramble to dictate what Trump's gonna do.

• 18:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to show you two things. Rob, if you want to pull up the JD Vance clip real quick when he explains 21 hours and nothing happened, go ahead, Rob.

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• 19:57Speaker 05

  Well, good morning, everybody. And let me say a couple of notes of appreciation. First of all, to the Prime Minister of Pakistan and to Field Marshal Monir, who were both incredible hosts. And whatever shortcomings in the negotiation, it wasn't because of the Pakistanis, who did an amazing job and really tried to help us and the Iranians bridge the gap and get to a deal. We have been at it now for 21 hours, and we've had a number of substantive discussions with the Iranians. That's the good news. The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement. And I think that's bad news for Iran much more than it's bad news for the United States of America. So, we go back to the United States, having not come to an agreement.

• 20:40Speaker 05

  We've made very clear what our red lines are, what things we're willing to accommodate them on, and what things we're not willing to accommodate them on. And we've made that as clear as we possibly could, and they have chosen not to accept our terms. Okay, so you hear that. Wait, you hear that right there? Then you see the President coming out, and he's speaking to Maria Bartiromo, and this is what he says to her on what he wants now from them.

• 21:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I predict they come back and they give us everything we want. And I tell my people, I want everything.

• 21:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't want 90%, I don't want 95%, I told them, I want everything.

• 21:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so now, here's the thing. I think one of the things the president did, by sending J D Vance out there, I actually like that move a lot, and I'll tell you why, because if Rubio went out there negotiating on his behalf, Rubio people would say he's an interventionist, but if J D Vance goes out there negotiating as a guy whose position is probably a non-interventionist, more like an isolationist, because the ties of names like Tulsi being tied to J D, Joe Kent being tied to J D, a lot of Tucker Carlson's son, Ben, I believe his name is Buck, or Buck, Buckley, Carlson being tied to J D. I think these are all good things that the president did of sending J D Vance out there, because the world is now saying,

• 22:11Patrick Bet-David?

  well, guess what, Rubio, J D, and Trump are all on the same page when it comes down to Iran. You can say whatever you want, those three are now on the same page. So, you know, the average person would have probably thought the better person to send to negotiate here would have been who? Rubio. Rubio. Rubio and Whitkop, they've been doing their work. But why did he not send Rubio? Why did he send J D? Because now- I think it's a great, absolute great move that he sent J D instead. And by the way, here's the thing that we're gonna realize as well, you know, and this is a little bit tough, because, you know, like, people, people say things to me, and they'll say, well, you know, why don't you send me, why don't you send me, you know, when we're doing certain negotiations, and I'll say, look, if I send Tom, here's what Tom's gonna do.

• 22:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom's gonna close, the deal's gonna get done, we're gonna make progress. If I send you, will you close? If you don't close, Vinny, then I'm not sending you. But we gotta send somebody that's gonna go close the deal without you being there. So the pressure's also on who? The pressure's also on J D to close, because right now, what a lot of people saying, you saw the criticism that's going viral right now. What is the criticism? Did you see it about J D? I don't know if you guys saw this this morning or not. He doesn't have the cloud, he can't close the deal. And he think he touches, it doesn't turn to gold. What people are saying. Like he's the-

• 23:28Speaker 02

  Break of politics.

• 23:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Like they're saying, hey, well, I'm telling you what the Twitter, you know, the criticism is saying, you know, JD's approval rating has fallen 21 points from January of 2025, a plus three to minus 18 today. So he has to rekind rebuild his credibility because he went to help out Orban, Orban didn't work out. He went to negotiate. So this is, this is also a way of saying, hey, you want to go be a president? Show up. Do you know how to negotiate in these high, uh, intense, high, uh, pressure topic situations? We're gonna see what he's gonna do as well. Uh, I'm confident that he's got the skill set to be able to do that as well. He's fairly poised. He showed up in a debate with, uh, when he was going up against Tim Walz. So I think he has that diplomacy in himself as well.

• 24:13Patrick Bet-David?

  But you gotta close. You have to close the deal. So will others be threatened by what he's saying? We don't know. We're about to find out. Vinny.

• 24:21Speaker 02

  Well, and I'll give you credit where credit is due. When we were in the van coming back, this just broke and this was one of the first things that you said is that they know that they're sending a guy that doesn't want war, that was distancing himself. Trump was in, uh, they quoted him. I don't, I don't know which, I don't know if it was New York Times or Wall Street Journal, where they said, the president said JD Vance was, then they put in quotes, less enthusiastic about the war. Uh, and by the way, so this looks like a dead end. If you want, from a strategic point of view, Tommy, you want to send a guy that has to now get his hands dirty because this trip to me was about watching, documenting and letting Iran show in real time that there was no real path forward. And I believe they kind of already knew that going in. The, once the optics were locked in,

• 25:04Speaker 02

  the moral high ground was established and whatever comes next can now be framed as the only remaining option. It made me look at the book, The Art of War, and Sun Tzu wrote, "All warfare is based on deception," which basically the lesson is, "When conflict is unavoidable, let your enemy prove peace was never possible. Then when force follows, it no longer looks like aggression, it looks inevitable." So I think this was a gangster move by sending him now, because Adam, now, guess what? Come 2028, when he's gonna start to distance himself, they go, whoa, whoa, you were there, you saw it. Iran's not trying to freaking negotiate at all. So you're in it with us. So now it levels the playing field.

• 25:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, let me tell you what Iran has said to this. Iran says it'll keep obstructing Hormuz until US agrees to a deal. Iran has found the leverage that they have, which is the Strait of Hormuz. Here's what Iran said. Iran will keep passage through Strait of Hormuz hampered until it gets an acceptable offer from the US, according to statements carried by Tanim and Fars, news agencies affiliated with Iran's security services. Here's a quote. Iran is not in a hurry until the US agrees to a reasonable deal. There will be no change in the situation of the Strait of Hormuz, is what they said. And on top of that, they threaten. Is this the video of the threats, Rob?

• 26:21Speaker 02

  Yes, sir.

• 26:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead and play this clip. Go forward.

• 26:24Speaker 06

  In the name of God, the most gracious, the most merciful, the naval and aerospace forces of the Revolutionary Guard since dawn today, in the 99th wave of Operation True Promise Four, with the Holy Code, Ya Fatima al-Zahra, peace be upon her, in response to the enemy's crimes and attacking the country's infrastructure, have targeted American bases and interests in the region, as well as command centers and Zionist military gatherings in the occupied territories, with ballistic and cruise missiles and offensive drones. In the first phase of the attacks, the largest petrochemical complex belonging to American companies Sadara, ExxonMobil, and Dow Chemical, located in the Al-Jubail region of Saudi Arabia, and the large petrochemical complex of the American company Chevron Phillips, based in Al-Juaima, Saudi Arabia,

• 27:09Speaker 06

  were effectively targeted with medium-range missiles and offensive drones. Additionally, more than 30 locations in Rishon le-Zion and Petah Tikwa in the center, and Bersheba, Dimona, Arad, Kiryat Gath and

• 27:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Iran threatens to attack US Navy ships entering Strait of Hormuz. After first American vessels moved through the channel, US Navy destroyers began clearing a new passage through the Strait of Hormuz Saturday, making the first time American ships crossed the channel since the start of the war. The USS Frank E. Peterson and USS Michael Murphy set off on the mission to establish an open route so that minesweepers could later clear sea mines laid by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard, as Vice President Vance and other delegates It's embarked on peace talks today began a process. The two guided missile destroyers were only establishing the route for minesweepers. And sending a message to Iran that US will reopen a vital trade corridor by any means. By the way, UK is apparently helping them out because they send a team that's experts.

• 28:05Patrick Bet-David?

  At knowing how to do the minesweeping. So, you know, no one really knows what's going on. At the same time, while this is taking place, Israel says it struck over 200 Hezbollah targets. Just in the last 24 hours. The Israel military said its air force hit over 200 targets linked to Iran backed militant group Hezbollah in Lebanon. On Saturday, the announcement of the strikes comes as Iran demands a ceasefire in Lebanon as part of the wider talks with the US. In Islamabad to end the war in the Middle East. Adam.

• 28:36Speaker 06

  Talking about Lebanon right now?

• 28:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, no, I'm talking about Lebanon. I'm talking about Iran's threats, Iran controlling it, all those three together.

• 28:42Speaker 06

  Well, if you listen to what Trump said, did you see the quote when he said, listen, we've already won. You see that quote? Can you pull that one up, Rob?

• 28:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 28:49Speaker 06

  Basically, he says, yeah, I don't really care what happens in these negotiations. We've already won. Destroyed their military. I think Trump is basically doing this. It's a game of chicken about the Strait of Hormuz. The Strait of Hormuz, what countries is that the most important to? Let's get real here. Before this war, how many of us talked about the Strait of Hormuz? Talked about Panama Canal, talked about Gulf of Mexico, we talked about the Monroe Doctrine, we talked about, or the Trump Doctrine. Down road doctrine, Strait of Hormuz doesn't really affect the United States, does it? It affects certain other countries, Pakistan, Jordan, Egypt, Southeast Asia, India. So I think it's using the Strait of Hormuz as a leverage point saying, if we close this down, what's going to happen to the rest of the world?

• 29:34Speaker 06

  Didn't we have a picture over the weekend of how much drilling is happening in the Gulf of America now? How many ships and, and oil drill refineries are popping up and how many ships are coming through the Gulf? Did we not, did we not discuss that? The, the whole concept of drill, baby, drill, drabby, drill. It's basically the, the chickens are coming home to roost. Now regarding Lebanon, you know how they say, Israel controls America, Bibi Netanyahu controls America. Okay, well, did you, did you hear what Anthony Blinken had to say? We can tee up that clip, but you know who controls Lebanon? It's not even a question. It's Iran. Lebanon, Hezbollah is Iran first. This whole conversation, why would Lebanon?

• 30:17Speaker 06

  Not part of Iran, be a part of these negotiations. Cause that was the center point, that was the linchpin as to what JD Vance, did you see JD Vance? What he had to say? And when he was outside of Air Force One? He goes, listen, yeah, we were trying to do the, uh, the, uh, the, the deal. And then all of a sudden Israel and Lebanon are going at it.

• 30:34Speaker 02

  Well, who started that? Who's doing that?

• 30:36Speaker 06

  Well, that's been ongoing, but here's the point. He goes, I genuinely think Iran thought that Lebanon was part of the deal. Lebanon wasn't part of the deal. Lebanon's name didn't even come up. So Iran's playing games. They have their proxies out there, whether it's Hezbollah, the Houthis, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, whatever they're doing, they're funding them, not funding their own people. Lebanon has no part of this deal unless Lebanon is controlled by Iran. That's true.

• 31:03Speaker 02

  Are we sure about that? Like, what's your proof that Iran controls Lebanon?

• 31:09Speaker 06

  Okay, so.

• 31:09Speaker 02

  No, I'm asking.

• 31:10Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 31:11Speaker 02

  No, I'm asking you.

• 31:11Speaker 06

  What do you know about Hezbollah?

• 31:13Speaker 02

  They're terrorists.

• 31:13Speaker 06

  Okay, where are they based in?

• 31:15Speaker 02

  They're all over the place.

• 31:16Speaker 06

  No, they're not.

• 31:16Speaker 02

  Yes, they are.

• 31:17Speaker 06

  They're in Iran. I'm sorry, they're in Lebanon.

• 31:19Speaker 02

  They are, well, there's, they're in Iran as well.

• 31:20Speaker 06

  Hezbollah is based in Lebanon. Facts, just like Hamas is in Gaza, just like the Houthis are in Yemen.

• 31:27Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 31:28Speaker 06

  And how they get their funding? From Iran. The, the Iranian terror proxy network. Okay, that's who this Hezbollah is. So rather than funding their own people, own economy, drinking water, everything, they fund Hezbollah. This isn't even a controversial statement. This is true. So they're sending in, imagine you're in Tel Aviv, imagine you're in Miami, imagine you're in New York, you're sitting there and missiles are flying in over your city. I don't think people truly understand what's going on in Israel. Their entire country is living in bunkers at this point. Okay. When, when, when Iraq and Iran were at war, okay, you're, you're a proud Iranian, I assume at this time? I, I assume you were hearing missiles over your head, non-stop. Do you remember this?

• 32:10Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 32:10Speaker 06

  Do you still have like flashbacks about this? And I'm not saying this doesn't go on in other parts of the world. The entire society in Israel right now is underground. They get to pop up and live their lives. All of a sudden, missiles are coming from Iran. They have 10 minutes to get underground. Missiles come in from Hezbollah. They have three minutes to get underground. Missiles come in from whatever's left in Gaza. They have one minute. You have entire Western democracy, ally of the United States. Regardless how you feel about Bibi and Israel. You have an entire society that is forced to live underground because the IRGC and all their proxies are sending missiles.

• 32:46Patrick Bet-David?

  What is this clip by Blinken?

• 32:48Speaker 06

  Antony Blinken. This is a separate conversation about...

• 32:51Patrick Bet-David?

  What is this clip?

• 32:51Speaker 06

  So this is basically saying, how did US enter this war in Iran? And this is Antony Blinken, obviously former Secretary of State.

• 33:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob. Let's see it.

• 33:00Speaker 06

  Basically saying, was it Bibi? Was it Trump? Whose decision was it? This is Antony Blinken. Go ahead.

• 33:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Prime Minister Netanyahu at various points tried to convince the Obama administration, the Biden administration to do things like this. To my knowledge, he's tried to convince virtually every administration since he's been in office to do what President Trump finally did. He came to the Obama administration and tried this. He came to the Biden administration and tried this. And he finally found a willing customer in President Trump. But this was President Trump's decision. This wasn't Bibi Netanyahu's decision. It was President Trump's decision. Look, it's not that previous administrations, whether it was...

• 33:35Speaker 02

  There's President... You have to admit, Adam, it's 1,000% President Trump's decision. But you cannot sit here and pretend that Bibi Netanyahu doesn't have major influence. Jared Kushner has known him since he was a child. His father in New Jersey, he used to go visit him, Bibi in Jersey. He's over there negotiating. That's a conflict of interest, number one. Number two, we can't pretend, Adam. Everything was Iran, Iran, Iran. And then Israel went on full-on seizing land and attacking in Lebanon. And mind you, Adam, in heavily populated civilian and Christian parts of Lebanon. And they're literally seizing land. And it's looking thou... Because, Adam, who's to stop them from just going, well, there's terrorists here. Bomb them.

• 34:20Speaker 02

  Who's checking to see how many civilians are dying in? In Lebanon, where's the, because if, if, if you, all you have to say is this, there's terrorists there. You could literally keep bombing, keep extending, expanding until you've taken over as much land as you want. Don't, obviously, I want Hezbollah taken out. Obviously, I want Hamas done. Obviously, I want ISIS done, which Trump basically did. But if you've been seeing, like I've been seeing, literally in the downtown area, you want to talk about Miami? I'm out in Miami, a whole apartment complex with civilians coming all the way down, and they're bombing it. So that's what I'm saying is, Adam, there's a huge, huge Christian population there, which I'm not comfortable with them going on full offensive when you're supposed to be focusing on Iran. I get it. They could, what's the saying that you said before?

• 35:05Speaker 02

  Walk and chew gum, but it's like, bro.

• 35:06Patrick Bet-David?

  What is this? What is this, Clip Rob?

• 35:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's.

• 35:08Tom Ellsworth?

  This was the strikes last week in Lebanon.

• 35:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's, okay, you want to kill one terrorist, so you do that? Let's just say there's one Hezbollah guy in there.

• 35:15Speaker 06

  Why would you say there's only one?

• 35:16Speaker 02

  I'm just saying, how many, how many?

• 35:18Speaker 06

  Why did they take out that building?

• 35:19Speaker 02

  Because, I don't, are you telling me? Do you have reports?

• 35:22Speaker 06

  So.

• 35:22Speaker 02

  I don't know, because there's.

• 35:23Speaker 06

  I appreciate your passion, and let me, let me respond real quickly. Thirty seconds ago, you'd even know that Hezbollah was based in Lebanon.

• 35:30Speaker 02

  I didn't, I didn't say based, I said they were, I didn't say that, I said they're everywhere.

• 35:33Speaker 06

  No, they're not. They're in Lebanon, period, full stop. You might say there's one guy who has a cousin who's hanging out in a different part of town. Hezbollah's in Lebanon, and this is exactly what it is. You just said, obviously, you want to take out Hezbollah.

• 35:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, so kill how many civilians for one terrorist?

• 35:48Speaker 06

  How do you assume that they do that?

• 35:50Speaker 02

  What do you mean? I don't, Adam.

• 35:51Speaker 06

  How do you?

• 35:51Speaker 02

  Because I saw what they did in Gaza, and they, dude, Gaza is flat. It's flat, so they killed almost thirty.

• 35:57Speaker 06

  Vinny, you gotta pick a side here, bro.

• 35:58Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, please don't play that game with me. Do not, hold on.

• 36:01Speaker 06

  You either want to take out terrorists, or you don't.

• 36:04Speaker 02

  Timeout. Do not play the pick a side, Adam, when it comes to twenty-five thousand, or twenty thousand children dead. Don't play that game with me, because if terrorists were in this location, this location, Israel should have done, let me finish.

• 36:18Speaker 06

  Slow down, slow down. What do you mean, children dead?

• 36:20Speaker 02

  Adam, you, if you show Gaza right now, and I don't even want him to show it, look at what Gaza looks like. Was there Hamas everywhere? Because it's flat, okay.

• 36:30Speaker 06

  Okay, by the way, the whole children, and I know we don't want to talk about this, the whole children dead. Why are children dead?

• 36:37Speaker 02

  What do you mean? Because they didn't, because when you throw caution to the wind and you don't do a ground invasion, go in the tunnels and go at everybody, you could just carpet bomb everybody and just say, "Well, there's terrorists there."

• 36:46Speaker 06

  And then, just one quick question, follow up. Where are these children hanging out?

• 36:50Speaker 02

  What do you mean, Adam? This is, they're, they live there. They live there.

• 36:54Speaker 06

  They're by themselves, they're hanging out?

• 36:55Speaker 02

  No, when the hostage is with their parents.

• 36:56Speaker 06

  Oh, they're with their parents?

• 36:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:58Speaker 06

  Gotcha. So they're with their parents, who are basically part of Hamas?

• 37:03Speaker 02

  Also, all the parents, is that your argument? Is that all these kids that died, these innocent children, their parents are Hamas? Are you serious right now?

• 37:10Speaker 06

  Vinny, I feel like we're going back to the years to have an argument.

• 37:13Speaker 02

  Let's move on.

• 37:14Speaker 06

  Where, no, no, let's not move on, let's stay right here. Hamas is embedded in society.

• 37:18Speaker 02

  So kill everybody is your thing? Just, why, why'd they take so long?

• 37:22Speaker 06

  What do you mean, kill everybody? If they wanted to kill everybody, there'd be a million people dead right now. You have to understand, if they wanted to kill everybody, which they don't, a real genocide, there'd be a million people dead in Gaza, do you know that? The fact that they're talking about only 60,000, half of which are Hamas, half of which are civilians, is a testament to the fact that they don't want to kill everybody.

• 37:47Speaker 02

  It's a horrible ratio.

• 37:48Speaker 06

  America killed how many people in Iraq? How many people in Afghanistan?

• 37:51Speaker 02

  And it was all wrong.

• 37:52Speaker 06

  And I never heard the word genocide once.

• 37:54Speaker 02

  What do you mean? Adam, I left the military because of what we did in Iraq. I, Vincent O'Shaughnessy, left because of 9/11 in Iraq.

• 38:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me get to this next story. Here's the story I want to get.

• 38:03Speaker 06

  I don't understand your point.

• 38:04Speaker 02

  Adam, let them go to the next story. What do you mean? Adam.

• 38:08Patrick Bet-David?

  What point? Explain the point.

• 38:10Speaker 02

  Tell me the point.

• 38:11Speaker 06

  We're fighting radical terrorism.

• 38:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And your point is what?

• 38:13Speaker 02

  And my point is...

• 38:14Speaker 06

  And your point, and I'm pointing...

• 38:15Speaker 02

  I'm saying from a tactical point of view, they, the way that they handled Gaza...

• 38:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinny, respectfully, let him ask a past question.

• 38:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Let him answer a past question.

• 38:23Speaker 02

  He's doing it.

• 38:24Speaker 06

  What was the question?

• 38:25Patrick Bet-David?

  What happened, Tom?

• 38:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, he was doing it.

• 38:27Tom Ellsworth?

  I thought you were asking him to explain this. And we were trying to...

• 38:30Speaker 02

  No, no, I'm asking...

• 38:31Speaker 06

  Bottom line is this. Whether you like it or not, the world, specifically the Middle East, has one major problem, brother. You know what that is?

• 38:38Speaker 02

  No Christ. No Jesus Christ.

• 38:40Speaker 06

  Okay, that's...

• 38:40Speaker 02

  No, it's the truth. No Christianity. None of this would be happening if they were all believers in Christ.

• 38:45Speaker 06

  Sure, great, gotcha. But they believe in radical Islam. So you just went to Christ. They believe in Allah. And they believe that they're gonna reach paradise when they kill and maim and convert people or die. So you're gonna have a choice of whether you're gonna say, huh, I really don't like to see innocent people die. Nobody wants that. Or I'm gonna let the radicals take over. I'm fully on the point of we're not letting them take over. You're kinda still straddling the middle respectfully. Well, we gotta take 'em out, but we can't kill innocent people. That's a problem. We need Christ. Buddy, at some point, you're gonna have to realize, this is the problem, and Israel and the United States is addressing it.

• 39:24Speaker 02

  What do you think is the problem? You think Israel's the problem, or Islam's the problem? No, I think tactically, the way they're doing missions is not... For instance, is it okay? If they wanna... If you wanna kill two terrorists, are you okay with them taking down an entire apartment complex that people are living in? I don't think... Pat, I think tactically, send in your ground troops. Mossad is dope. IDF and all them, they don't wanna get involved on the ground, which I think, Pat, you'll save civilians.

• 39:51Speaker 06

  I love you, bro, but I think you're oversimplifying a very complicated situation in a very...

• 39:54Speaker 02

  Throw some troops on the ground. Go fight the war.

• 39:57Speaker 06

  What do you mean, throw some troops on the ground?

• 39:58Speaker 02

  You don't just carpet bomb them.

• 39:58Speaker 06

  By the way, I'm defending America here, but I just feel like giving you some facts, brother. How many people do you think live in Israel? There's 350 million people in America. 350 million. There's a billion plus in Iran, in India. There's a billion plus in China. How many people do you think live in Israel? What's your number?

• 40:20Speaker 02

  5 million?

• 40:21Speaker 06

  5 million? It's 10 million people. That's the size of a city in America.

• 40:26Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 40:28Speaker 06

  I know people in the IDF. You think they wanna be at war? How many tours have you done?

• 40:34Speaker 02

  What do you mean, tours? I was just in the Air Force.

• 40:35Speaker 06

  Okay, so you weren't even a tour. I know people on their fifth tour, seventh tour. They've been in Lebanon. They've been in Gaza. They've been flying to Iran. There's... They don't have enough people. The whole conversation about sending boots to Iran. They don't have enough people. You know the famous situation with Joe Rogan? He goes, "How many Jews do you think there are in the world?" He goes, "Ah, a billion." Let me, let me lower my expectations. Half a billion people. I think it was, uh, uh, Gad Saad that said, uh, try 15 million. Oh, there's about 5 million that live in the United States, 10 million that live in Israel. There's not that many of them.

• 41:16Speaker 06

  And 20% of Israel are Arabs that are citizens that fight also in the IDF. So this whole concept of a boots on the ground where you think all these people are going to be everywhere at once. They don't have the numbers. That's just the bottom line. And you have these 10 million people, which very few, less than half a million are actually serving, that are fighting war after war after war after war. And we're saying, do more. They're to their last leg. And America comes in as a capable ally to Israel and the Middle East.

• 41:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna get to this next story.

• 41:45Speaker 06

  To defeat Islamic terrorism.

• 41:46Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, Trump warns China will have big problems if it ships weapons to Iran, but insists he doesn't care about peace talks as win regard, as we win regardless. Go ahead, Rob.

• 42:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, if China does that, China's gonna have big problems, okay? Yeah, so when, when you, when you see this story, now he's also saying he doesn't care. There's another clip, because of that clip, Rob, that you just played, there's a few of them that he goes a little bit deeper into. Trump warned, obviously, China, the president caution comes after several news outlets have reported that China is preparing to send air defense systems to Tehran in the coming weeks. If China does that, China's gonna have big problems. US intelligence sources told New York Times and CNN that Beijing is shipping shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missile systems known as MAN pads through third countries to mask their origins. A spokesperson for the Chinese Embassy in China, in Washington, denied the accusations in a statement to CNN.

• 42:48Patrick Bet-David?

  China has never provided weapons to any party to the conflict. The information in question is untrue, the spokesperson said. It comes as peace talks between US and Iran began in Pakistan's capital city Islamabad on Saturday. Uh, Trump's, Trump acknowledged very deep negotiations, but told Reuters, no matter what happens during the talks, the United States has already won. Regardless of what happens, we win. We totally defeated that country. And so let's see what happens. Maybe they make it, make a deal, maybe they don't. From the standpoint of America, we win regardless. Tom?

• 43:20Tom Ellsworth?

  So, there's two ways to ship a weapon. One is, finish a missile, a bullet, a gun, and send it to the guys. Iran-Contra's, right? Just send them the guns, drop them off. The other way is you send raw materials that are critical. And, what I was reading over the weekend, Pat, is that the US and the UK are now, and I think it was the CIA found it, and MI6 confirmed it, that was what I read, about a chemical called ammonium perchlorate, or sodium perchlorate, which is key rocket fuel.

• 43:57Tom Ellsworth?

  This, it's basically rocket fuel chemical, that you need, so that you can send, send out rockets or missiles. And, that is what is huge. And when people say, China's shipping weapons, there's the anti-aircraft system that they sent to Venezuela. And remember, we jammed it? Remember the stories on that, Pat? That the Americans jammed the Chinese system, so the system that they had, did they have the best one? Don't know. And so, China was reportedly also providing that system to Iran.

• 44:35Tom Ellsworth?

  And, also, now they're shipping chemicals that are used to make the propellant, the fuel, for rockets. And so, China's definitely in this, and I think the President said, "What's going on? If they're really doing this, they're gonna be in big trouble." But just remember, you don't have to ship the guns. Sometimes you can ship, ship the powder. And, this is terrible. This stuff is, this allows them to make the rockets.

• 45:01Speaker 02

  Pat, how long you think he does, how long do you think, because I'm, it's almost a given, they're both kind of helping, like, on the low, till he does something, or like, it's out in the open where he's gonna actually act on China or Russia? Because I haven't heard anything from them, like, these are, these are the little stories that pop up. And you know China's doing it, how long do you think till Trump, like, because he looks serious, right there? When he's talking about, if they're doing it, it's gonna be bad for them.

• 45:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you actually think they're providing weapons to Iran? Do you think they're doing it?

• 45:28Speaker 02

  I think they're on the...

• 45:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, what is your percentage of them providing weapons to Iran?

• 45:32Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm 100% that they're providing these chemicals. We've found it. The MI6, CIA apparently found it. Now we have all kinds of articles on it. So it's 100% that they're sending rocket fuel.

• 45:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 45:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Number one. Number two, are they... I'm probably around 80% that they're sending, you know, the anti-aircraft and radar systems. Because it's easy. And that's what they were supplying to Venezuela, so I wouldn't supply there. Anything beyond that? I'm only about 25% because I think that's like a red line. And do you think China wants to cross that red line?

• 46:06Speaker 02

  But if you're sending...

• 46:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm lower on the actual missile, bullet, and bomb.

• 46:10Speaker 02

  But if you're sending the fuel to launch these rockets or the missiles, it's almost like, you know what I mean? Like the loading the gun thing? You're putting the gunpowder in the bullet to shoot the guy.

• 46:20Tom Ellsworth?

  But I didn't send you the cannon.

• 46:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, but that's still... But if I find out that you're sending them the gunpowder and they're shooting my... You know what I mean? That's a whole different situation. You're still actively involved in killing people. So they could play that little game, but what do you think?

• 46:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know. I mean, look, Humberto just sent a message. The whole 90% of the oil that China is getting is from Iran. So who is a bigger partner? How do you manage the two partners? One is giving you oil. The other one, you sell a bunch of products to your number one customers, America, that you make hundreds of billions of dollars of exporting. And so do I want to compromise that relationship with, you know, US? But do I feel confidently in my ability to low-key underground, get stuff to Iran without anybody finding out? Don't forget when the Huawei's founder's daughter, who was the CFO, was in Canada doing deals with Iran and Trump put 100% sanction on Huawei and Huawei disappeared. We... A lot of people used to have Huawei phones in America.

• 47:19Patrick Bet-David?

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• 49:05Speaker 06

  Two things are going on here. Number one, China looks at Iran as one thing, a transactional partner. They're using them from oil. They've been, they've basically been evading sanctions, Iran, by basically selling discounted oil to China. They got a billion and something people that they gotta have energy for. They're shutting down the Strait of Hormuz. You think it affects Iran? It affects China, too. Big time. It affects Southeast Asia. It affects half the Middle East. We don't rely on the Strait of Hormuz. So China's looking at, at the situation Iran being like, oh, man.

• 49:39Speaker 06

  We're losing our oil. Oil prices going up. I don't know, who knows what deal they're cutting with, with Russia? I'm sorry, regarding oil. By the way, wasn't Trump and Xi supposed to, supposed to meet coming up?

• 49:51Patrick Bet-David?

  They were supposed to meet in March.

• 49:52Speaker 06

  They're supposed to meet in March.

• 49:53Patrick Bet-David?

  But they didn't.

• 49:54Speaker 06

  But they didn't, why?

• 49:55Patrick Bet-David?

  No, he said they're gonna delay to May.

• 49:56Speaker 06

  Why? Because of this war. So now Trump is using the straight up Hormuz as leverage, saying, before I even come speak to you.

• 50:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Because of tariffs, it was a couple of things.

• 50:05Speaker 06

  Of course.

• 50:06Patrick Bet-David?

  It was kind of going on.

• 50:06Speaker 06

  But, but the, the center point, the linchpin, was what's going on in Iran. So now you have China basically saying, how do I literally fuel my economy? I have a billion plus people that I gotta take care of. They got their own issues. For years, we've been hearing China's on the rise. There's only one country that's on the rise, and it's the hottest country in the world right now, United States.

• 50:29Patrick Bet-David?

  That was it?

• 50:29Speaker 06

  That was it, that's all I got.

• 50:30Patrick Bet-David?

  That's how you wrapped it up? Okay, alright. Well, let's go to Orban.

• 50:32Speaker 06

  Boom, back up a second. You want me to keep talking?

• 50:35Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I don't want you to keep talking.

• 50:36Speaker 06

  You want me to keep going?

• 50:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Good job.

• 50:38Speaker 06

  What's my point? I wrapped it up early.

• 50:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Love that.

• 50:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Orban era swept away by Peter Magyar's hungry election landslide. Alex Soros, Soros celebrating. Hillary Clinton celebrating. Obama celebrating. A bunch of them celebrating. Last minute, Putin came to help. Bibi came to help. Trump came to help Orban. JD went to help. None of it worked. Orban ended up losing. And there's a lot to it, Rob. I think you got a video on this one here. 16 years in power. And this is a BBC story. A system condemned by electoral autocracy lies the tatters. Defeated by a 45-year-old former party insider who convinced a majority of Hungarians to bring it to, to the end.

• 51:22Patrick Bet-David?

  We did it, Peter said, told the crowd of cheering supporters beside a river Danube overlooking Budapest's magnificent parliament. On the other side, together we overthrew the Hungarian regime. Is this it, Rob?

• 51:35Tom Ellsworth?

  This is Viktor Orban last night conceding.

• 51:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Preliminary election results based on more than 98% of country voted, counted votes, put his TZA party on course for an extraordinary 138 seats versus Orban's 55. And the far right, our homeland, on six. The landslide will not only allow Magyar to overthrow Orban's increasingly unpopular domestic policies, but reset Hungary's global relations. Orban has been a close partner of President Trump, earning an in-person appearance from the JD Vance. That's what I said in the final week of the campaign. And Russia's Vladimir Putin, and he had become one of the big thorns in the inside of EU and Ukraine. Here's Viktor Orban conceding. Go ahead, Rob. The election results, although not yet complete, are understandable and clear.

• 52:24Speaker 04

  The election result is painful for us, but clear. The responsibility and opportunity to govern were not given to us. I congratulated the winning party. Thank you, thank you for all your hard work.

• 52:42Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go, Tom.

• 52:44Tom Ellsworth?

  So Orban was trying to do two things. Hungary and California were very similar. It's not very big, but it was full of corruption, all kinds of problems going on. And Orban's been trying to make good relationships internationally, such as Trump, such as Putin. It's sort of interesting, and he was the one guy you saw on the end of his campaign, both Putin and Trump were saying, "I hope this guy wins." Meanwhile, everybody else on the liberal globalist side say no. So Orban, people that are there said, "No, he was a continuation of the corruption." He was trying to fix things domestically, and he did some things domestically that were really unpopular. And then he was trying to be a peacemaker and do things, you know, on the world stage.

• 53:28Tom Ellsworth?

  People say, "How can you call him a peace state here?" He's da-da-da-da-da. All right, okay. Well, the answer is Hungary is California, and this guy was actually trying to correct part of it. He was part of it because he had kind of, you know, his political career come up through it. And now you had an opportunity for a conservative-minded guy in Hungary, in the middle of the war and the economy and everything, the people said no. Not by landslide, but they, people said no. And so that's what's going on. And this is why, and guess what? Now Soros is happy, Hillary's happy, Obama's happy, all who, I say happy, because all of them have put out statements of support. Meanwhile, the more conservative side of Earth is coming out and saying, "Man, this sucks.

• 54:11Tom Ellsworth?

  I thought there was an opportunity to turn the corner on Hungary." But you know what? The Hungarian people are fed up, and what the vote was in Hungary, you know what it was, Pat?

• 54:20Patrick Bet-David?

  What's that?

• 54:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Anything but this. And when voters do that, sometimes you get unintended consequences on elections, and that's what's happened here.

• 54:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so if you go, by the way, if you got Alex Soros' tweet, Rob, if you want to pull it up, go to Alex Soros' tweet, I just sent it to you. Uh, if you go to his account, you'll be able to find it. It's not a big deal. Just go, there you go. Okay, so here's a tweet. "The people of Hungary have taken back their country. A resounding rejection, rejection of entrenched corruption and foreign interference." If you go a little bit lower, look at the first tweet. Elon Musk, "Soros organization has taken over Hungary." And Retard Finder says, "Imagine the family responsible for the most foreign interference complaining about foreign interference."

• 55:10Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not me saying it, that's a handle that's called I Find Retards. That's the job of that Twitter account. So Vinnie, your thoughts on this?

• 55:17Speaker 02

  So basically, they found one, and I just hope that Americans are paying attention. When Alex Sor- like, name one thing that that name has done positive. Give me one George Soros positive thing. They're destroyers, okay? And I hope this sets off alarms, because think about it, they just took Hungary, one of the most Christians, the last Christian stronghold in Europe, 16 years, they resisted the migrant flood. They resisted Alex and Daddy George, and that slow, like, that national security. Now, now, it's basically the walls have been breached, the people behind the push are not even pretending to hide it. And this is, Pat, a red-green alliance. Global Marxists on one side, and the Islamic pressures on the other side, and they're both moving in the same direction.

• 56:00Speaker 02

  And this is a warning shot. Europe is already cooked. And this is what happens when countries stop defending themselves. The leadership falls, the demographic shifts, everybody's welcome, bring everybody in, we don't care. We don't care. Crime rises, faith disappears, and the people who built the country are told to shut up and adapt. And I'm telling you right now, it's coming here. We're the main prize. America is the crown jewel. Look at every single uprising that we've had. BLM, this, burning the street. Everything, all these judges, everything is so, every time you link it back to these NGOs and everything, it always leads to the Soros Foundation, or something with George Soros, okay? And they're not even hiding it anymore. So I hope people are waking up, because once a country loses its identity, Pat, getting it back is way harder than getting it in the first place.

• 56:45Speaker 02

  And these, they're not hiding it. Anytime Alex Soros, Hillary Clinton, and they're celebrating about something happening over there, they're, it's a bad, bad, bad sign. Period.

• 56:58Tom Ellsworth?

  It's 10 million people over there. There's 10 million people in Hungary and they're all flipping out. And you had this conservative opportunity there, but now you've got Soros in there interfering with it. And you know, he has a little bit of a bone to pick with Hungary over time, right?

• 57:13Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 57:13Tom Ellsworth?

  A little bit of a bone to pick because they called them out and they knew who he was and he couldn't even go visit what was his original, his country of birth, right?

• 57:21Speaker 02

  He's banned in so many countries.

• 57:22Tom Ellsworth?

  He's banned. What does that tell you? And so he's back there trying to manipulate it because every one of these, you have to understand, the globalist populist and communist movement, see every one of these countries like a state. There's 10 million people there. There's like, there's like almost three times that in Florida. So think about it. This is like, I don't know what US state has 10 million people in it, you know, Missouri or something. So this is what they've got. And so they're out there trying to do it. And that's it.

• 57:52Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. Adam, any final thoughts?

• 57:53Speaker 06

  I'm not, I'm not the Hungary expert. I'll just say this. Orban was an extreme nationalist, you know, Hungary first. This other candidate basically was more of a globalist, basically saying, I'm going to align myself with the EU, with NATO, that kind of situation with the globalist, you know, Ukraine. Whereas Viktor Orban was basically saying, you know, strong man. But here's the most powerful thing. In any election, the most powerful thing is change. This guy came in and said, listen, you've been doing this for how many years? Almost 20 years with this guy? 20 years? Said it's time to go. And at the end of the day, this is democracy showing the people have a voice, the people have a choice. There's a lot of places out there where democracy is fading. At least in Hungary, it appears that it's still there.

• 58:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let's talk about Trump blasting the Pope. Here's a New York Post story. Trump blasts Pope. Leo as weak says he prefers his MAGA brother after pontiff's veiled jabs over Iran war and immigration. Is this it? Let me first read what he said and then we will go through what he said. Rob, do you have what the Pope said? I have a clip of the Pope, I believe this, this weekend where he says he's going to continue to speak out against the war. Go ahead. The message of the church, my message, the message of the gospel, bless that other peacemakers.

• 59:15Speaker 05

  I do not look at my role as being political politician. I don't want to get into a debate with him. I don't think that the message of the gospel is meant to be abused in the way that some people are doing. And, and I will continue to speak out loud against war, looking to promote peace, promoting dialogue and multilateral relationships among the states, to look for just solutions to problems. Too many people are suffering in the world today. Too many innocent people are being killed. And I think someone has to stand up and say, there's a better way to do this.

• 59:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, there you go. That's the Pope, and then here's the President. Go ahead, Rob.

• 59:53Speaker 04

  And they're gonna go back, filled up with oil.

• 59:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Why did you attack Pope Leo on Truth Social?

• 1:00:02Speaker 04

  I don't think he's doing a very good job. He likes crime, I guess. He, uh, he hit us, think of it. He's worried about fear. What about the fear when the ministers and the priests and the, all of those great people that were arrested during COVID, and in many cases, they're outside 10 feet apart and they were arrested? So, we don't like it. We don't like a Pope that's gonna say that it's okay to have a nuclear weapon. We don't want a Pope that says crime is okay in our cities. I don't like it. I'm not a big fan of Pope Leo. He's a very liberal person, and he's a man that doesn't believe in stopping crime.

• 1:00:44Speaker 04

  He's a man that doesn't think that we should be toying with a country that wants a nuclear weapon so they can blow up the world. Now, I'm not, I'm not a fan of Pope Leo.

• 1:00:56Speaker 02

  I mean, unless I missed something, the Pope, all he said was, listen, I'm not about war, you know? He quoted the Bible, blessed are the peacemakers. He's ju- just, just, he's not saying, you know, to hell with them and, and, and whatever with the troops. No, this is the Pope. This is the holiest guy on the planet, the biggest guy in, in Catholicism, just voicing his opinion, and then Trump goes into this cra- like, this, was this, this wasn't a 500 footer. But it's like, I don't know, I'm not a fan of him going after him and then bringing up nukes. All this guy is saying is, listen, I'm not about war. We're trying to be, if you're trying to be a Christian, a good Christian, the last thing on the, on the menu is war.

• 1:01:40Speaker 02

  And if there's a way to do it, do it. And if he's gonna bring up things like, cause I don't know if we're gonna bring up the, him tweeting Pat about him being basically Jesus and putting-

• 1:01:48Patrick Bet-David?

  We will do that right afterwards.

• 1:01:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, go ahead, Tom.

• 1:01:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I, I struggled with this because it's like, the Pope, the Catholic Church has become political. Let's, let's face it, over the last 25 years, they've become very political. They've weighed in on DEI, they've weighed in on so many things. And, and they've also done, you know, kinda ride the line, well, what, what we really interpret is this. So they've actually moved and they've moved things. People say, well, that's progressive, that's that. Not, not if your, not if your handbook is the Bible and it says that one foot is 12 inches and inches as much. Then you don't sign it, change it over time so that one foot is 14 inches or eight inches. You don't change your standards.

• 1:02:30Tom Ellsworth?

  And, and the Pope has kinda moved with that, that some people call, you know, progressive Catholicism, you know? I don't know. On the other hand, where Trump is, you know, if you're not with me, you're against me. And he's very, very clear about that. And while he's trying to get things done on a world stage, you know, he's gonna react to things that he think- Remember, it wasn't just this comment by the Pope. There's been other things and there was a closed door meeting. And so, Trump is a little annoyed with the Vatican because Trump sees the Vatican as a political voice. And it's like, if you're gonna be a political voice out there, this is what we're trying to do. You know, you know, last time I checked, Trump didn't say this, but Tom says this.

• 1:03:13Tom Ellsworth?

  The last time I checked, the path to peace in the Bible sometimes got a little bit bloody and a little bit messy because humans are humans. And so, this is a heavy tweet, but I, I think I understand where it's coming from. You know, if you're not with me, you're against me.

• 1:03:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 1:03:29Speaker 06

  Well, let me put on my, take off my yarmulke and put on my cardinal hat. Uh, here's what we know about Trump.

• 1:03:34Speaker 02

  Here's your AIPAC baseball hat.

• 1:03:35Speaker 06

  Thank you, buddy. Tom's got the jokes always. Uh, here's what I know about Trump. Anybody can get it.

• 1:03:44Speaker 06

  A week ago, people were freaking out, basically saying, "May Allah be with you." All of a sudden, there's people upset about that. All of a sudden, "We're gonna take down an entire civilization." Nothing happened. All talk rhetoric. Calls out the Pope. By the way, this isn't his first time calling out the Pope. By the way, he'll call out Bibi. What the F is going on here? If you getting Trump's crosshairs, whether you like it or not, he's gonna shoot. What's the famous phrase? "If you come at me, I'm gonna come at you 10 times harder." So, that's Trump. You like it or not, I'm on Team Trump because Trump represents America. The Pope doesn't represent America, despite being from Chicago. Go Bears. I know Humberto's probably gonna be a little offended right now. That's okay.

• 1:04:28Speaker 06

  The Pope doesn't represent America. I have Catholic friends, I have Christian friends, I have Muslim friends, everything. No one is without, basically, being... No one's about being criticized. Anyone can get it. Because if you look at what the Pope is basically saying, if you didn't tell me it was the Pope, he would sound like a pacifist. He sounds like a dove. You know, there's a concept of like, "Are you a hawk or a dove?" Trump's neither. Trump's a dealmaker. Are we gonna get stuff done or not? Here are the things that I understand, you tell me if I'm wrong, what the Pope basically advocates. Promotes peace, no war. He's an open border guy, globalist type of guy. Helps humanity, I get that respectfully.

• 1:05:11Speaker 06

  It seems to me, there's a lot of socialist tendencies, and they're critical of capitalism. At the same time, doesn't the Church own more land than anybody in the world? Aren't they basically a religious corporate structure, dictating the papal laws to all around the world?

• 1:05:29Speaker 02

  Supposedly own more land, except countries.

• 1:05:31Speaker 06

  Allegedly.

• 1:05:31Speaker 02

  Allegedly.

• 1:05:32Speaker 06

  They're also very big on the Green New Deal, the Green New scam, talking about a thing. At the end of the day, these crosshairs are gonna happen, and it'd be best served for the Pope to stay in his lane, and Trump to stay in his lane. When those two lanes cross, he's gonna get a...

• 1:05:46Speaker 02

  What do you think, Pat? Because from what I heard, I didn't hear the Pope... Oh, the Pope was just saying, "Yeah, I just wish there was more peace." I don't think he was going...

• 1:05:53Speaker 06

  What do you think? I'm curious.

• 1:05:54Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, look, he to me, I like him more than the previous guy.

• 1:05:57Speaker 06

  For sure.

• 1:05:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not, you know, I, I, I, I think he is. He's just saying, he says, look, the Bible says peacemakers, right? Be a peacemaker and, you know, blessed are the peacemakers and, you know, at this moment, people could say Trump's not a peacemaker. Trump's a chaotic agent, you know, he disrupts, he's constant, right? Which is fine, that's who the American people voted, two times to be the president, but I will tell you something here, that low key, you know, here's, you know, I don't know why Catholics, you know, have this issue with Jews. I don't know what it is. They have this, this, this, you know, I, I don't, listen, I get the Jews have issues with Christians. And they'll make fun and they'll say stuff like, oh, your Jesus is gonna do, you know, they'll say, well, he was a Jew anyways, right?

• 1:06:41Patrick Bet-David?

  But then Catholics have that issue with Jews. And they, they act like, you know, they're all innocent and everything. And when you look at Catholics, the amount of centralized power they have. Centralized, if you, you know what the total Catholic population is worldwide? It's like 1, 2, 1, 3 billion. Jews are 15 million.

• 1:07:01Speaker 06

  15 million.

• 1:07:02Patrick Bet-David?

  But Jews are decentralized. Meaning Catholic, Jews don't have somebody they listen to that says, hey, you better do this. Catholics, God forbid you say something about the Pope. They're like, hey, man, listen, who is that Pope figure in the Christian community? We don't have one. If I ask you right now, who's the Pope in the Christian community? You don't have somebody to look at, who is a which pastor?

• 1:07:23Speaker 06

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:07:24Patrick Bet-David?

  No, they don't. We don't have them.

• 1:07:25Speaker 06

  It's an independent network.

• 1:07:26Patrick Bet-David?

  It's just the Bible. So if you look at, only Catholics and Muslims have somebody that they look at as their supreme leader, like, you know, you gotta go to somebody, but even more, it's Catholic.

• 1:07:38Speaker 06

  Well, there's only two theocracies in the world.

• 1:07:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Catholicism?

• 1:07:41Speaker 06

  Islam, I'm sorry, the, the, the Islamic Republic of Iran.

• 1:07:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:07:47Speaker 06

  And the Vatican.

• 1:07:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:48Speaker 06

  Those are the two major theocracies.

• 1:07:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen.

• 1:07:50Speaker 06

  Big difference.

• 1:07:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, okay, you pulled, I said 1.3 billion, my apology, I don't want the Catholics to be upset with me because, you know, I have a, a, a lot of Catholic friends, 1.422 billion. By the way, you ready for this? They have 220,000 parishes. Worldwide, that's churches. Wow. They have 3,000 dioceses, 400,000 priests.

• 1:08:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Worldwide, 600,000 religious sisters, nuns.

• 1:08:14Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 1:08:15Patrick Bet-David?

  200,000 Catholic schools globally. 50 million students enrolled worldwide. 1,300 universities. 5,000 to 6,000 hospitals. 15,000 plus clinics. 16,000 plus homes for the elderly, disabled, orphans. I have had nothing but great experience with Catholics. Nothing. Here's where my challenge is. I've never had any issues with Jews. I've never had any issues with Catholics. But they have issues with each other. Okay?

• 1:08:43Speaker 06

  Well, I don't think Jews have any issues with Catholics. I think the old school Catholics, the old school had major issues with the Jews.

• 1:08:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:50Speaker 06

  And then I think in the 1960s, they said, you know what, guys? Let's pump the brakes on all the Jew hate and all that. But that's still linked.

• 1:08:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you not, Tom, did you not watch Godfather 3? What's Godfather 3 about? Do you want to, do you really want to go through the history of Catholicism? And how much power and authority and mob and finances and? It has its own military. There are so many things to go through. So for me, this is the problem. This is the problem. For me, it's when you come in and take a judgmental position and your church has a history of a lot of issues. You're kind of contradicting yourself and you're a hypocrite. So you have to kind of be able to balance that. But at the same time, guess what? That's what comes. The Vatican has a lot of power. It's a, think about if you wanted to have

• 1:09:37Patrick Bet-David?

  control over 1.422 billion people around the world in a sin. Christians couldn't pull this off. Mormons couldn't pull this off. Catholics pulled it off. What a power. And so here's a question. Who's more powerful? Can you run a poll, Rob? I'm actually so curious in how the audience votes. I kind of have an idea which way they're going to vote though. Who has, no, I don't want you to say anything. I just want to give it three minutes. Who has more power? Humberto, don't call the bots people you have. I don't want you to touch any of your bots people. Who has more power? Jews or Catholics? Does the Catholic Church have more power or Jews? Okay, just put those two, Rob. And Jews, J-E-W-S, not J-U-I-C-E. Just want to make sure Rob gets it right.

• 1:10:21Speaker 06

  Oh, is that why I'm getting all these juice boxes on my? Oh, that's what they're saying?

• 1:10:25Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm not even putting.

• 1:10:26Speaker 06

  I just thought they wanted to buy me a drink, this juice.

• 1:10:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So, but here's the thing, here's the thing. Do you know what's the funny thing with power? You know what's a funny thing with power? It's like, it's always the other guy that wants more power. Not you, you're the humble one. You know, it's always the other guy that wants more control. You don't. Definitely Jews don't want any control. It's the other guy. Catholics don't want any control. It's the other guy. Islam doesn't want any control. It's the other guy. Everybody wants control. Thousand percent. Why do they want control? Why do they want control? Think about why they want control. Because what? Because they want to be able to push their own what? Agenda. Agenda and what you believe in. And guess what? I think that's very fair. You know, if you live in a community, like, you know, there's a such thing that's HOA, right? You know what HOA is? Homeowners Association.

• 1:11:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So for instance, like, let's just say you live in a community. And you have a house that's on one lot. And I have a house that's on three lots. Okay, but we pay our HOAs fairly. Now imagine the person with one lot says, we want to charge $5,000 per person who lives in this community, per lot. So who does it favor? Who does it not favor? The guy with one lot says, yes, that's fair. Let's do it. The guy with three lots is like, what are you talking about, bro? Yeah. Well, you know, no, we're gonna keep everything $5,000. No, you take more land in a community. Everybody's got an agenda, bro. Of course.

• 1:11:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody does. So when we get into the innocent stuff, listen, I said to myself, I'm from Iran. So when people are like, well, you know, you're from Iran. Yes, I don't like the IRGC. I've said it a million. I've made videos about this for over a decade, talking about how I feel about this. They're bad people. They're evil. They're not wired like you. And the world is a better place if they're gone. Do I have some biases because I lived with these guys? 100%. It's the people when they're like, well, I don't have any. Well, I don't have this. I don't have that. Stop acting like you're so innocent. Everybody's got their own stuff that's going on. So now, Trump does something else that kind of pissed a lot of people off, and this deserves criticism. And it's a well-deserved criticism.

• 1:12:33Patrick Bet-David?

  He posted a picture of himself that was posted a few months back in February by a guy named Nick Adams. So the original tweet. Oh, we know. Vinny, I don't know if you know or not. Yeah, it was somebody else. The original tweet of this is actually not him. The original tweet of this was a guy named Nick Adams. Yeah, we know Nick. Who, yeah, he posted this in February of sometime this year. And the only difference is, which a lot of people are talking about, Rob, it was-

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• 1:13:57Patrick Bet-David?

  So my notes, I don't know if you want to go to it, if you want to pull it up. I'll text it to you as well, both ways you have it. I just texted it to you. There is a picture of comparing the two that you have. Is that the one I just sent you? Yeah, there you go. So if you look at this, Nick Adams tweeted this in February, but then something changed. Go to the right one, the one on the right. So this one has the, you know, soldiers in the back and then come back February 4th. And then you want to come back, America has been sick for a long time. President Trump is healing this nation. And then go to the new one that the president tweets. And so the president tweets this one.

• 1:14:32Speaker 02

  Who's that?

• 1:14:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so the one in the middle, people are like, well, what is that? Well, what is that person? So anyways, I'll pause here, Vinny, your thoughts on this?

• 1:14:38Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, okay, well, if I'm assuming, what is that? Is that the Antichrist? Is that a demon? Why, of all the things that you change, you just changed that thing? So there's questions, but listen, in Galatians, chapter six, verse seven, Pat, it says, "God will not be mocked." Period. End of story. Full stop. I know we're talking about Catholics and Jews and all that stuff, but I mean, look at the track record. I played a video a long time ago saying that Trump said that he is not a Christian. Then he also did on Air Force One, he said, Not very fast. I'm not going to heaven. Okay? And then, um, when he got sworn in, he didn't put his hand on the Bible. I know that's not a huge deal, but the Bible's right there. I think Melania was holding it and he didn't put his hand on it.

• 1:15:22Speaker 02

  This type of stuff, Pat, and again, people like you said, can have their opinions and everybody has their thing. I'm not, I'm not a fan of that and putting it there and then adding the demon, whatever the heck that is in the back.

• 1:15:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You think he did like somebody, he probably forgot, you know, somebody had edited it and then he retweets it. It's not like it's a, by the way, I don't know if I can, we can show this picture here, Rob, on, uh, so you may want to change this one. Go ahead, Adam.

• 1:15:45Speaker 02

  You're asking the question of whether we, that, that picture.

• 1:15:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me go to Tom. Now, let me go to Tom. Tom, your, your thoughts on the picture of, uh, the president posting that? How do you feel about that?

• 1:15:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, there's like a meme a day, a meme a week and, you know, you, you put something like this. I, I don't, I don't know how to interpret it. It didn't come with like a commentary. It's, I mean, clearly the original intent than the original author was, hey, and he's going to heal the nation. And he even says, I'm, I'm not a spiritual guy, you know, it's kind of like, you know, um, it's kind of like Charles Barkley saying, man, I'm, I'm not a role model. You can make me out to be, but I'm not a role model. And if this was Mother Teresa here, no one has any trouble with it, you know, without the American flag, you know, that this is a symbol, a symbol of healing and touch and things like that. And I think this is just, you know, I can't read into it. Maybe he's saying, you know what?

• 1:16:39Tom Ellsworth?

  I want to, I want to fix things and I want to bring things forward. I don't see it religiously, you know, I see.

• 1:16:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if I like you, Tom. I don't know if I like.

• 1:16:47Tom Ellsworth?

  It's kind of like.

• 1:16:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if I like.

• 1:16:48Tom Ellsworth?

  It's off.

• 1:16:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You know why I don't like you, Tom? Like when it comes on to, you know, uh, cer- certain things like with God, I don't know if I'm messing with this. Leave this one alone, you know, go and see yourself above every other man. You know, and by the way, this is coming from a guy that's Assyrian. And guess what Assyrians were known for? Well, what happened to us? Hey, hey, let's go visit our country, Vinny. Where's our, Vinny, Rob, can you pull up on the map Assyria? Pull up on the map Assyria? And why don't you pull up the president of Assyria? And here's an Assyrian saying this. Where's our country?

• 1:17:27Patrick Bet-David?

  We don't have a country.

• 1:17:28Speaker 02

  Called Iraq. It's Baghdad, where Baghdad is.

• 1:17:30Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but I want to find out, who is the president of Assyria?

• 1:17:33Speaker 02

  There is none.

• 1:17:34Patrick Bet-David?

  So what happened to Assyrians? I thought we were the first warriors, 6,000 years ago, 3,000 years ago. I thought we conquered the biggest, I thought we invented, you know, the

• 1:17:44Speaker 02

  Beer, irrigation.

• 1:17:46Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, the capitalism, you know, mercantilism, everything that we have right now, capitalism. Can you pull up stuff that Assyrians invented? Assyrian Empire invented? Go to what things Assyrian Empire invented?

• 1:18:01Patrick Bet-David?

  If you go to stuff that they invented, okay, from, uh, can you just go to chat? GPT will list it out for you if you go there. The stuff that Assyrians invented is

• 1:18:11Speaker 02

  Insane.

• 1:18:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Insane, I mean, insane. You go read the Bible, go, go watch the language Aramaic. Me and Vinny speak Aramaic, right? We're trying to get Tom and Adam and Rob to learn. Rob's the closest so far, but Shalal, shalal. You know, we're, we're, uh, Weapons, math, business, you name it, Assyrians. What happened to the Assyrian Empire? We fell. Why did we fall? Do you know Assyrians like were so crazy that they would go get lions to say, you're not the king of the jungle? We are. Can you imagine how crazy you have to be to say, hey? We would go kill lions just to say, we're the kings of the jungle. We're Assyrians. And then what?

• 1:18:46Speaker 02

  A little too cocky.

• 1:18:46Patrick Bet-David?

  A little too cocky.

• 1:18:47Speaker 02

  You think so? You guys tried to build the tower of Babylon.

• 1:18:50Patrick Bet-David?

  We built something, a tower.

• 1:18:51Speaker 02

  You guys? Trying to go to, to try to

• 1:18:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Babylon, to go and say, hey, God, listen. We're kind of stronger than you. And then he's like, wait, who are you guys? Do you know what this thing called the famine is?

• 1:19:01Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:19:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You're gone. Go ahead Assyrians. Okay, now there's still, listen, see a few of us left? We are very aspirational. We're, we're, we bought 11 acres. We're trying to build a smaller country here in Fort Lauderdale.

• 1:19:14Speaker 06

  The Godfather.

• 1:19:15Patrick Bet-David?

  We believe the future looks bright, but I think the part is, there's one thing you don't play with. You just don't. You don't play with God. It's the only thing. Play with anything you want to play with, you know, and I'm somebody, you know, I was, you know, we were with the UFC president Dana. We're there sitting right next to everybody, family, spoke to Marco Rubio. We were everybody two days ago with a torn ACL, walking out with a limp.

• 1:19:39Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:19:40Patrick Bet-David?

  From Compton, like that kind of a true legit limp.

• 1:19:42Speaker 06

  Like you were on the card.

• 1:19:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, exactly. But, but, but the point is like, you know, I just don't think there's any benefit to things having to do with God. Leave that one alone. Very simple. I think leave that one alone. That's my feedback. There's no benefit. And I, listen, is he, is he being funny about it? Is he trying to get under the skin of the Pope? Is he trying to get under the skin of people? Is he trying to get another thing that the people are talking about? Of course he is. But this is one you just avoid. There's no winning here. There's no benefit to it here.

• 1:20:14Speaker 06

  I don't know. I, I hear your point.

• 1:20:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:17Speaker 06

  And I'll raise you this. If people still get offended by a Trump tweet, that's on you, bro. I'm not saying you, sir. I'm saying in general, how many times, oh my God, I can't believe Trump's, he said, what he do? But we've been seeing this for a decade. He's got his own platform truth to basically say Twitter, you wouldn't allow it? And I got my own thing. You're not going to silence this guy. If every time you freaked out of what he does, you'd go insane. So to me, stop being offended. That's number one. Number two, he's the most consequential president in our lifetime by far. Barack Obama, goodbye. Maybe Reagan was. In our lifetime, Trump's the guy. And you know Trump's religion? Let me tell you Trump's religion. Above all, you know what it is?

• 1:21:02Speaker 06

  America first. Straight up. I don't think he's necessarily a God fearing guy. You know, he'll call out Allah. Be Allah, he'll call out the Pope, boom, boom, boom, whatever this picture was. He'll call out Israel, they don't know what the F they're doing. Whatever it is, next thing he's gonna go after Buddhists and Hindus, anyone can get it. You can agree, or you can disagree, that's fine. But when you come at Trump, don't miss, literally, could have an ear blown off, because he's gonna come back 10 times harder. You know what's the famous quote about wrestling with a pig? Be careful when you wrestle with a pig, because you're gonna both end up get dirty, and the pig loves it.

• 1:21:39Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:21:39Speaker 06

  Trump's born for this.

• 1:21:40Speaker 02

  But be careful when you make, you know, beside the pig, when you're messing around with Jesus Christ. That's not good. When you're trying to be that guy, and, and I know, I know he didn't make the meme, he reposted it, but what are you trying to say? And I'm not, I'm not, I'm not like, oh my God, I'm just like, bro, he made a great point. Sit that, sit that one out, don't, you could talk crap about the Pope and do a 500-word thing to the Pope. That's fine, he's a human being, he's still a man, he's flawed, he sins. Not that guy.

• 1:22:05Speaker 06

  The Pope sins now?

• 1:22:07Speaker 02

  He'll, what do you mean, does he sin? Of course, everybody sins.

• 1:22:09Speaker 06

  Careful, watch your tongue.

• 1:22:10Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, all right, let's go, uh, uh, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is a guy that's been sinning publicly and privately. Okay, and some of the stuff became public, okay? Eric Swalwell. And this guy was supposed to be the leading candidate, gubernatorial candidate for the state of California, and now, they're gonna get not Tom Sawyer, but Tom Steyer.

• 1:22:34Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 1:22:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Or, they may get our friend Katie Porter. Okay, the hottest thing going on in California, which I don't think my dream will become a reality with her, because she's a little bit off, like she is very aggressive. Like she honestly, like, she needs, she needs a lover right now. She needs to find somebody that's gonna be like.

• 1:22:53Speaker 02

  I'm on Instagram.

• 1:22:54Patrick Bet-David?

  That's gonna come.

• 1:22:54Speaker 06

  I had a lover, man.

• 1:22:55Patrick Bet-David?

  But I don't know, listen, I don't want to speculate. Eric Swalwell, this is his tweet. "I am suspending my campaign for governor." He could have replaced that with, "The Democrats have fired me after realizing I don't stand a chance of winning." To my family, staff, friends and supporters, I am deeply sorry for mistakes and judgment I've made in the past. I will fight the serious false allegations that have been made, but that's my fight, not a campaigns fight, okay? My question is campaigns. Let me ask you, is that apostrophe S? Because you know he used ChatGPT because of that line.

• 1:23:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:23:30Patrick Bet-David?

  But what campaigns, not a campaigns. I don't, Rob, is that proper English with the apostrophe?

• 1:23:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, it's the campaign is a noun, meaning the campaign doesn't own the fight.

• 1:23:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so ChatGPT got it right. So we see this and can we show that video or no? Is that video? I know it's soft porn.

• 1:23:49Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:23:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Can we show that or no?

• 1:23:51Speaker 02

  I think so. I think so.

• 1:23:53Patrick Bet-David?

  There is nothing going on, right? Is it, Rob? I don't want you to.

• 1:23:56Speaker 02

  No, no, she's just, you know, he was married.

• 1:23:58Tom Ellsworth?

  And if you listen, listen close, you can hear a narrator.

• 1:24:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Is there, is this it, Rob? I don't know if anybody else showed it either, but anyways, there's a video of him making out with the scroll and then it gets a little bit worse. Nothing happens. There's no liftoff. There was nothing that took place, but you know, is this him saying that he's dropping out?

• 1:24:17Tom Ellsworth?

  No, yes, but it's from the billionaire that has funded his last three campaigns. Supposedly it's at the billionaire's home.

• 1:24:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 1:24:27Tom Ellsworth?

  So what did he do? He ran to his biggest donor and his biggest benefactor who he's been pushing legislation for.

• 1:24:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Allegedly the biggest donor asked for million dollars back from him that he gave to him, allegedly.

• 1:24:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep. And so he was at that guy's house supposedly.

• 1:24:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so play this clip and then Tom, I'm going to come to you because it looks like you know a lot about it.

• 1:24:44Speaker 06

  A lot has been said about me today through anonymous allegations and I thought it was important that you see and hear from me directly.

• 1:24:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Me at the point of the chest.

• 1:24:52Speaker 06

  These allegations of sexual assault are flat, false. They are absolutely false. They did not happen. They have never happened and I will fight them with everything that I have. They also come on the eve of an election. Where I have been the frontliner candidate for governor in California. I do not suggest to you in any way.

• 1:25:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, is this the stepping out? Or what is this?

• 1:25:13Speaker 02

  This is him saying, before the video came out, he's like, I did not do this. It's like the Democratic.

• 1:25:19Patrick Bet-David?

  And Rob, do you want to play the other clip you just texted me? The clip of, I just texted you what you texted me. Nothing crazy. Don't like, if it goes, Rob, if any close comes off, Rob.

• 1:25:30Speaker 02

  I got you. Pat, is that a house or is that a hotel?

• 1:25:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is this?

• 1:25:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, listen close.

• 1:25:33Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, pause it right there. It's fine, it's fine.

• 1:25:35Speaker 02

  Get air.

• 1:25:36Tom Ellsworth?

  My wife won't be home for a while.

• 1:25:37Speaker 02

  So Pat, and by the way, there's a girl in the back that shows her.

• 1:25:40Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's Mark Schrelli who tweeted that?

• 1:25:42Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:25:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:25:42Speaker 02

  And he goes, here is my sources. It was taken at, in his home. This is, and this woman is a sex worker, allegedly. And but, and if you see, because there's two videos.

• 1:25:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Whose foot is that? Like, whose shoes?

• 1:25:55Speaker 02

  There's a guy in the bed with them. There's a guy and they're trying to figure out who's there, who's recording.

• 1:25:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Come on, Pat, wake up, man. There's always gotta be a guy filming.

• 1:26:02Speaker 02

  No, but Pat, there's a girl that shows up in the back that looks like another girl worker, whatever, allegedly. She runs back because she sees that somebody has a camera. She gets up, but there's a guy in the bed and then there's a guy obviously recording. So one, two.

• 1:26:13Patrick Bet-David?

  But we don't know who the guy.

• 1:26:14Speaker 02

  No, there's five. See that guy's head? I mean, it's gonna come out. You're gonna find out.

• 1:26:17Patrick Bet-David?

  See that guy's head?

• 1:26:18Speaker 02

  He has nice sneakers on. I mean, he has Nikes.

• 1:26:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:20Speaker 02

  Those are pretty cool dunks.

• 1:26:21Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what Vinnie's looking at, the sneakers.

• 1:26:22Patrick Bet-David?

  So, okay, so we don't know who that guy is, though?

• 1:26:25Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 1:26:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, they're gonna identify him. See his face right there.

• 1:26:27Speaker 02

  They're gonna find him.

• 1:26:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So.

• 1:26:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Not Gavin Newsom. If we, listen close, the guy is saying, Congressman, I can't break the 100.

• 1:26:32Patrick Bet-David?

  We know who the guy is. Go ahead, Tom.

• 1:26:35Tom Ellsworth?

  So, here's what I think.

• 1:26:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Why did this happen? That's the real question. Of course, it's fun and games, but why did this happen, Tom?

• 1:26:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep, so, everything comes out at once. So we summarize it. This video.

• 1:26:48Tom Ellsworth?

  That's right. This video.

• 1:26:49Speaker 02

  Unbelievable.

• 1:26:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Two campaign workers, you know, come out and say, he was hitting on us. One gentleman puts up a tweet, says he was hitting on my wife. We have the evidence. If he wants to sue me, sue me, but don't you dare say a word about my wife. She worked for the campaign and this is where it happened, all over this weekend from Friday. It's like a suddenly ground swell. Who gave the me, so I'm gonna ask this, controversial question. Who gave the media permission to run with this? The mainstream media is on a leash with the DNC. That's not allegations. We've seen it so many times. Rob, do you have the polling information? So let's look under the covers, shall we?

• 1:27:30Tom Ellsworth?

  And we find the California primary is known as, and this is what they call it, ladies and gentlemen, it's called the jungle primary. There's no DNC primary, there's no RNC primary. There is one primary coming up in June in California and the top two run for governor. Frequently, the poor Republican has never had a chance to be in the top two, or you're so far behind, it's crazy. But this year, they call it law of the jungle, survival of the fittest, all the animals have to fight, who's gonna be the one that comes out on

• 1:28:07Tom Ellsworth?

  top. So, take a look at this. Top two move on. Steve Hilton, 17.1%, Chad Bianco, 13.5, first and third. Eric Swalwell, there were things leaking out, and he's been dropping a little bit. And Katie Porter is seen as like this very angry woman, and the polling says that, not me, and it's not an allegation, polling says that voters found that her anger and everything was unbecoming of a candidate. The Dems were looking at a situation that if just the conservative media showed this, they might have Hilton and Bianco running. This is Emerson College poll that was released to the media by Democrat source. Wait a minute,

• 1:28:52Tom Ellsworth?

  why are the Democrats releasing unfavorable polling? Why is New York, everything coming out at once? I'll tell you why. They only have six weeks before the June primary, and they're running a terrible risk of losing the state house. Guess what? They knew what was going on with Swalwell, they knew back from Fang Fang and all the jokes we can make about that, about, you know, being compromised by a foreign, a Chinese spy slash prostitute, whatever. Lot of slashes. Okay, there we go. There it is, Pat. If Swalwell had slipped down, now what they do, the Dems just did to him what they did to Bernie. But Bernie wasn't guilty of all this stuff. Bernie was just a pain in the neck on a highly progressive basis in South Carolina. Remember that, Adam? Oh yeah.

• 1:29:37Tom Ellsworth?

  And they were against Hillary, and what did they? They cut off access to all of the support, they changed the rules in South Carolina, and suddenly Hillary comes up, Bernie's campaign is absolutely thwarted, so they can get the candidate they want. They don't want to lose the California State House, Pat, and now you have a big bomb go off that tells the voters, Swalwell bad, Swalwell bad, Swalwell gone, he pulls out with six weeks to go off of the campaign.

• 1:30:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but the reality is, so now what?

• 1:30:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Now?

• 1:30:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Now you think Katie stands a chance?

• 1:30:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Well-

• 1:30:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You think Tom "Not Sawyer Styler" stands a chance? Or they have, Humberto, that thing we were looking at at dinner, when we said, what is the latest time to put somebody in, a name in, when was the last day they could do something? Because this is it, Tom.

• 1:30:29Tom Ellsworth?

  It's over. I don't think they can, they can't do the Kamala Harris thing and put in a candidate. They have to go with one of these-

• 1:30:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Are Republicans gonna win?

• 1:30:37Speaker 02

  Oh, like, do you think that's gonna happen?

• 1:30:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Well-

• 1:30:41Speaker 02

  Why would they destroy him like that?

• 1:30:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Not only that, Luna is putting forth a motion to censor him and have him removed-

• 1:30:49Speaker 02

  From Congress?

• 1:30:50Tom Ellsworth?

  From Congress, and if that happens, there'll be a special election for his seat, and there's a lot of unrest in California right now economically, and they fear, even though the Republicans are just hanging on to 39, 40%, it wouldn't take that much-

• 1:31:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Hanging around.

• 1:31:03Tom Ellsworth?

  That's right, wouldn't take-

• 1:31:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Hanging around.

• 1:31:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly, you know what I mean? It wouldn't take that much for a Republican to win his seat, and the Republicans stand a very real chance here. They only have one shot, and the shot is, does Chad Bianco get passed by Katie Porter, and then she becomes the candidate, and she wins by default because she's the Democrat, and then they control her. That's the plan.

• 1:31:31Speaker 02

  Wow, and by the way, it's not good for him. He's done. He had 50 former staff members, staffers, released a letter, a letter saying that the allegations are serious and credible and demanding he resigns from Congress.

• 1:31:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Give us the dates on everything. It all started Friday and these people were all greenlit.

• 1:31:49Speaker 02

  Do you remember Nancy Pelosi that made that video, Robbie, the, the wrap-up smear? The little smear campaign that she does?

• 1:31:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Smear or smear?

• 1:31:56Speaker 02

  It's a smear, but I like adding the schm- she-

• 1:31:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Maybe we'll go get a little bagel with a smear later.

• 1:32:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, and you have that video? This is, I, I slacked it to you, Rob. She says what they do. They get the story, Pat, they sell it to all the freaking news, and then they do a wrap-up. They put you out there, they destroy you, and then that's, you made a great point.

• 1:32:12Tom Ellsworth?

  They eat their young.

• 1:32:12Speaker 02

  They eat their young. This is it. But it bothers me, if, if you want to play, we can play it. It bothers me, Pat, that they've had these videos. They've had it-

• 1:32:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Eric got fired.

• 1:32:21Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 1:32:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Eric Swalwell got fired by the Democratic Party is what happened to him.

• 1:32:24Speaker 02

  That's exactly, but it bothers me that these people, I mean, I get it. It's a disgusting, dirty game. I've heard so many stories about these politicians in Hollywood, I mean, on Hollywood, in, in Washington, and the fact that they have it and they hold it on you, Pat?

• 1:32:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:32:38Speaker 02

  This blackmail game-

• 1:32:38Patrick Bet-David?

  So, Tom, here's the thing. Apparently, the primary election is June 2nd, general election is November 3rd, but the write-in deadline, the write-in deadline, Tom, is May 19th.

• 1:32:52Speaker 02

  Kamala could come in.

• 1:32:54Patrick Bet-David?

  The write-in deadline is May 19th. You think Democrats are just gonna let this go like this?

• 1:32:59Speaker 02

  No way.

• 1:33:00Tom Ellsworth?

  So, the write-in, I'm not familiar with that thing. Meaning, I, I could put my name out there to be a write-in candidate?

• 1:33:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I think, based on the way they have it, they, they needed to file a write-in before the primary deadline in May of 2026, which they have time. They have 30, 36 days to write someone in, give or take. So, I don't think in a million years, Democrats are gonna get rid of Eric Swalwell and just let it go like this and that's it. I don't buy that. You think they are excited by Katie Porter? Katie Porter is one press conference away from beating the living crap of somebody, and Dana White is the one that's hiring her to do UFC by Eugene O'Carroll.

• 1:33:40Tom Ellsworth?

  She has a daily card with her staff.

• 1:33:43Patrick Bet-David?

  No, she's a force to be reckoned with in the fighting space. But to me, and then the Tom Steyer guy, you know, Tom Sawyer, Tom Steyer, him, you know, you think they're gonna get behind him? No, I don't think. I think there's something up their sleeves that we don't know about. You're about to hear an announcement, I'm assuming, in the next, you know, three to seven days, maybe two weeks, of somebody where they're gonna say, here's our guy. And Antonio Villagoros, Tom, at 2.8%?

• 1:34:14Speaker 02

  How's he gonna jump like?

• 1:34:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You think he's gonna pull it off at 2.8%?

• 1:34:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, if they get behind him and they push him hard, he's got name recognition in LA, he will carry LA. If others are-

• 1:34:25Patrick Bet-David?

  He's got 800 followers on X. Can you go to Antonio? I couldn't believe it that day when we checked the rap. Can you look at Mayor Villagoros's Twitter followership and influence?

• 1:34:35Tom Ellsworth?

  It's not about logic, it's about desperation and about a party machinery.

• 1:34:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, spelling. Rob, you crushed it, Rob. You did what I would have done.

• 1:34:44Patrick Bet-David?

  We had to just see that because I would have spelled it too. Look at that, he's at 1,318 followers and that's his account.

• 1:34:52Tom Ellsworth?

  So he's almost doubled, Pat, give him credit.

• 1:34:54Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but Tom-

• 1:34:55Tom Ellsworth?

  You said 800.

• 1:34:55Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but check this out, like, I don't even know who follows him, like, influencers-

• 1:35:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Not followed by anyone you're following.

• 1:35:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, that's not A, V, so Adam, I'll come to you and then we're gonna wrap up with the story.

• 1:35:08Speaker 02

  And Pat, can I say one thing about her?

• 1:35:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:35:10Speaker 02

  So California primary is June 2nd, and the normal filing deadline for governor was March 6th. So as of April 13th, Kamala cannot just decide to jump into the race, but there's one narrow exception, Tom. She could still try a write-in campaign in primary. California allows write-in candidates for voter nominated offices in the primary, and the write-in filing window runs from April 6th to May 19th. But, there's a much tougher path because she would still need to finish top two in the primary to make the general election, which she could because of the stats that Tom just showed. So here's a clean way to say it. She cannot join the race now as a regular ballot candidate because the filing deadline's over, but she could only try a late write-in route, which is legally possible but politically much harder.

• 1:35:53Speaker 02

  Tom, if they put all their weight behind her, if they put all their weight behind her and they say, guys, this is Republicans, they're gonna blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, they wanna kill illegals, whatever, and then they put her in, she has, she has a path.

• 1:36:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at Tom Steyer though, Tom Steyer just blew up.

• 1:36:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom Steyer just went, blew- Right now.

• 1:36:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 1:36:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So, A- Adam, go ahead.

• 1:36:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom Sawyer. Okay, so, one quick question. Has Swalwell officially dropped out of the race? Yes. Okay, gotcha. Well, Pat, I got a Swalwell story, if I can share it with you.

• 1:36:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you do it in less than a minute?

• 1:36:26Tom Ellsworth?

  I can.

• 1:36:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go ahead.

• 1:36:27Tom Ellsworth?

  So, I'm at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. I was, I, I, I was with, uh, some ladies from CNN. I don't know if you want to show that picture, Rob. I sent you two pictures. Way to bury the lead. Here's all my CNN ladies. You might recognize some of these ladies. Looks A I. At the White House Correspondents' Dinner. This is in, I want to say 2017. And you know, when you go to these events, like we went to the inauguration, you go to these things, you're interacting with a lot of people. Where are your hands? I found myself at the bar with Eric Swalwell. Oh, God. And I knew him a little bit.

• 1:36:57Patrick Bet-David?

  You're the guy in that video.

• 1:36:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam, are you on the bad? I'm not incriminating myself. I'm not self.

• 1:37:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I was about, is that where he's going?

• 1:37:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm the guy in this picture. But here's what I'll say about Swalwell. We're at the bar.

• 1:37:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:09Tom Ellsworth?

  We're having a drinks. I don't know this guy. This is the point of my story, how sloppy he is. This is my opinion, my story. He says to me, "Hey, man, let's go have a little fun. Let's go see what's out there." I'm like, "You're talking to the right guy." He's like, "What's up?" Basically saying, "Where the chicks at?" Yeah. I'm thinking, "All right, here's this dude that wants to have a good time. I'm a free agent. I'm looking to have some fun." And then I realize, what's up with this guy's judgment? How are you just going out and picking up chicks with a dude you met three minutes ago? He doesn't care.

• 1:37:43Tom Ellsworth?

  And my point is, that's sloppy. Whatever happened with the Fang Fang, whatever happened, all you have to say is, "Hey, man, nice to meet you. Have a great day. I'm gonna go hang out with my friends." You're gonna come and say, "Hey, man, I like you. Let's go kick it and pick up chicks?" Sign me up. Who was he at the time? You're a little excited. He was a represent. He was a representative. Representative in California.

• 1:38:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:03Tom Ellsworth?

  That's why he was there. So, I'm thinking, huh, is this guy cool? Is he got, I want to say he was married. I don't know. The point is this, he's dropping out of the race. Nothing's been proven. What did we learn from Trump with the whole grab him by the situation? Anything's possible. You gotta own who you are. If you kind of walk around as the-

• 1:38:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So, you're saying he should come out and say-

• 1:38:25Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I'm just saying, if you walk around and present yourself as holier than thou.

• 1:38:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:29Tom Ellsworth?

  I would never, I would never do something like this. Like, if I ever ran for government, I'd be like, "Do you have any videos?"

• 1:38:35Patrick Bet-David?

  out in a club having a good time there are that's who I am but now I'm a changed man he's presenting himself as a polished individual Did you subtly throw in there that? I'm gonna hype myself up.

• 1:38:47Speaker 02

  But you realize he was on a bed with another dude and a dude recording

• 1:38:51Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a dude.

• 1:38:52Speaker 02

  Maybe he was trying to

• 1:38:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Playing the dude.

• 1:38:54Speaker 02

  Trying to

• 1:38:54Tom Ellsworth?

  California's just a mess.

• 1:38:56Patrick Bet-David?

  The point is this California's a mess Gavin Newsom cheated on his wife

• 1:39:01Speaker 02

  Stuff with his best friend's wife.

• 1:39:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Whatever but he owned it.

• 1:39:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Campaign manager by the way.

• 1:39:04Patrick Bet-David?

  How we doing Suave is sloppy he didn't own it.

• 1:39:08Tom Ellsworth?

  He's done.

• 1:39:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And now that's his

• 1:39:09Tom Ellsworth?

  And now you could now you can write in and according to the there's a new commission the Democrats running under new Kamala G R U N K which spells drunk you can write in Kamala or the name of any vodka and it will be attributed to her so part of the right end campaign is is meant to be right up her alley so we'll see is she gonna go as a right in or is she running for president?

• 1:39:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob what happened to that poll we ran thirty minutes ago?

• 1:39:34Speaker 02

  I totally forgot about that.

• 1:39:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh can you run that poll I'm just curious to know what happened?

• 1:39:37Speaker 02

  We guess?

• 1:39:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean listen I know which way it's gonna go I just wanna go okay go ahead what do you think it went who has more power Catholics or Jews? What do you think the poll went? Catholics or Jews? Yes. Where do you think the poll go? Literally there's 1.4 billion Catholics. I know so where do you think the poll goes?

• 1:39:54Speaker 02

  Our poll will be 60 40.

• 1:39:57Tom Ellsworth?

  We'll think the power is with Israel.

• 1:39:59Patrick Bet-David?

  If our audience is logical and sensible the Catholic Church and Catholicism is way bigger and way more powerful. Oh because it disappears?

• 1:40:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:40:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You didn't delete it though?

• 1:40:08Speaker 02

  No I can I think I can pull it up on the the watch after.

• 1:40:12Patrick Bet-David?

  But you didn't delete it though?

• 1:40:13Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:40:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay all right well we'll take a look at it afterwards for Oh conveniently deleted. Let me do this can for the audience that's watching if you guys remember what the poll was just kinda post it below I wouldn't mind seeing what the numbers are while we're on the topic right now all right let's get to uh let's get to next story let's get to next story let's get to next story next story I wanna get into is I tweeted something Rob if you wanna pull it up on what I think's gonna happen in 2028 okay? This is what I think is gonna happen in 2028. I think 2028, you guys know I don't tweet a lot, but when I do, uh, this is one of them. I said, "Mark my word, 2028 presidential race will break every rule in politics and open battlefield without Trump in it. Strange people will be running. Hollywood stars, influencers, podcasters, former athletes, pastors. I have a list of 22

• 1:40:58Patrick Bet-David?

  outsiders that could be running. It'll be nasty, right? While we're doing this, a report comes in saying, um, that Michelle Obama may be thinking about running. Hinting, hinting. Yeah, hinting. You saw that with David Harris? I think, uh, uh, uh, hinting. And then there's another one with Kamala, who's talking to Reverend Jackson, if I'm not mistaken, Rob. You know, did you see that one, Rob? Uh, this is it. Go ahead, go ahead.

• 1:41:28Speaker 02

  That's Al Sharpton. Al Sharpton.

• 1:41:30Patrick Bet-David?

  What did I say?

• 1:41:31Speaker 02

  Let's get our black pastors. Jesse Jackson passed recently. I know you were thinking of him because we're in the, in the religious bubble right now.

• 1:41:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Al Sharpton.

• 1:41:39Speaker 02

  This is Al Sharpton.

• 1:41:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 1:41:40Speaker 02

  Skinny Al Sharpton.

• 1:41:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, go ahead.

• 1:41:43Speaker 00

  So, you'll run again in 28?

• 1:41:45Patrick Bet-David?

  He's lost 300 pounds.

• 1:41:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, so watch this.

• 1:41:50Speaker 02

  So. Oh, God. Okay, in all, in all.

• 1:41:54Speaker 00

  I tried to be subtle, but I just figured I'd go right out.

• 1:41:57Speaker 02

  Well, that's as subtle as Reverend Al Sharpton can ever be. Yeah, girl. We love you for many things, but not being subtle.

• 1:42:06Speaker 02

  Oh, God. I don't miss that at all. Listen, I might. I might. Oh, God, please do. I'm thinking about it. Please, think more. I'm thinking about it.

• 1:42:17Speaker 02

  Oh, please go. Please.

• 1:42:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Who else? Who else for 2028?

• 1:42:21Speaker 02

  She has zero.

• 1:42:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Who else for 2028?

• 1:42:23Speaker 02

  Michelle, Michelle Obama would be formidable, for sure. She knows how to talk. She doesn't, she doesn't, but like, she had. The race card and everything would be played. She would play that thing all, every single day. Every single day and anything, any debate against her, she's gonna go to that card. She's gonna play that card. Cause that's all she's been doing for the past 10 years. That's all she does. Everything is, she's a victim, she's a victim. She's a victim and people love them. Mind you, she was selling out arenas, Pat. The first, the president's wife was selling out arenas. What was she saying? What was she's talking about? I'm very curious. But out of their entire, who the Democrats have right now?

• 1:43:06Speaker 02

  Gavin Newsom's number one and he is going down. All the fraud, all the lying, all the taxes, all the everything. She comes in, I know Roger Stone quoted this.

• 1:43:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know. The best campaigner in the lineup? In a world of snack and headlines.

• 1:43:21Speaker 02

  Who would it be?

• 1:43:22Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm saying, I think Gavin Newsom is the best political envoy and the best campaigner. If you sit logically with 10 people, if you sit logically from 10 people and you debate Newsom, you come to one conclusion. You get 300 million people that are just thinking at the surface level.

• 1:43:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:43:43Tom Ellsworth?

  He can get elected.

• 1:43:45Speaker 02

  Yeah. Who do you think would have a better chance? Gavin Newsom or Kamala? Or, I'm sorry, or Michelle Obama?

• 1:43:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, Gavin Newsom, I think gets cleaned up by Michelle Obama very early in the primary. Cause he doesn't have an east coast base in the first place. And I've always said, wait for New Hampshire, South Carolina and Iowa. And then tell me if the guy that can't get above 19% with core Democrats right now. And we've never had a candidate, Pat brought it up. Remember the research we did like two weeks ago, Pat? There's never been a Democrat candidate at this point, a prospective nominee.

• 1:44:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Never. Not an ever. In 30 plus years, we haven't had a candidate that as of this season was below 25%. Not Biden, not Hillary, not, nobody.

• 1:44:33Patrick Bet-David?

  30 years, it's never happened. So there's not a lead guy for them. So as much as they're having a hard time with governor for California, they're having a hard time with president for 2028. This is why I believe in AOC stands a chance. For 2028, this is why I believe in outsider stands a chance. For 2028 and you know, Kamala's, I know you're gonna say no. But I'm telling you, I think for me, as you're seeing more and more opposition come in, like a Maldani come in, they're playing ball. They're playing ball. Adam, your thoughts on this 2028?

• 1:45:05Speaker 02

  Look, you know, the whole, the whole conversation is that the Democrats have a deep bench. Oh, they got a bench. You're never gonna see.

• 1:45:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Where's AOC, Rob? Where's AOC on this list?

• 1:45:13Speaker 02

  On Calci, she's at 10.8%. I believe she is second. 86 million. Yeah, second. Newsom is first.

• 1:45:19Patrick Bet-David?

  If you put a position of $100,000, what would it be?

• 1:45:22Speaker 02

  Why would there's 86 million?

• 1:45:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I know. That's what I'm saying, Tom. If you put $100,000 on AOC and she pulls it off, what do you get?

• 1:45:30Speaker 02

  Uh.

• 1:45:31Patrick Bet-David?

  According to this.

• 1:45:32Speaker 02

  According to this, let's flip it over because I think you get the inverse of that.

• 1:45:36Patrick Bet-David?

  90,000, $900,000?

• 1:45:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, click on the yes. Just click on the yes.

• 1:45:43Speaker 02

  Ooh. Oh, there it is.

• 1:45:50Patrick Bet-David?

  So what does a yes do, Tom?

• 1:45:51Speaker 02

  I, I think you get the.

• 1:45:53Patrick Bet-David?

  90, so you put $110,000, you get $902,000?

• 1:45:58Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:45:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. All right. So as of right now, Newsom's number one?

• 1:46:01Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:46:02Patrick Bet-David?

  AOC's two, who was three? Go a little bit lower to see who three was?

• 1:46:06Speaker 02

  I saw John Ossoff. Ossoff.

• 1:46:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, wow. Kamala's four.

• 1:46:09Speaker 02

  That boy better work his ass off.

• 1:46:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:46:12Speaker 02

  In order to.

• 1:46:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead. You were saying.

• 1:46:14Speaker 02

  Look, 2028 is wide open. You are right. You know, the whole conversation of the Democrats, they get a deep bench. You know, but the, the challenge is all their players should stay on the bench. They don't have any stars that can actually win yet. National. Gavin Newsom, exactly. From a national perspective, Gavin Newsom was all they got. If you want to pull up that list, I'll tell you exactly, bing, bing, bing, who these people are. Gavin Newsom looks good. Becky with the good hair, whatever it is, doesn't have a national electorate. AOC, we haven't elected a representative from the House of Representatives into the presidency ever, ever. So unless AOC is the greatest candidate in the history of America, she's not going to be there.

• 1:46:56Speaker 02

  John Ossoff, I'm sure he's working his ass off. Nobody knows who he is. I think he's a senator in what state? Anybody, anybody, anybody, Georgia, I think, I don't know. Kamala Harris, keep the drinking. Pete, hey Buttigieg, that ain't happening. Josh Shapiro, I love you like a brother because you're Jewish. You got no chance in the Democratic Party. They hate Israel, they hate the Jews. Ro Khanna, go back to wherever you came from. Andy Beshear, keep up for that guy, governor of Kentucky. Rob Emanuel could be, could be a player here. JB Pritzker, I don't care how much Ozempic you got, ain't happening. All I see is white men in a Democratic Party that's run by black women. I don't think any of these people got a chance.

• 1:47:37Speaker 02

  I think on the, on the Republican side of things, you get the most capable resume we've ever seen, possibly in Marco Rubio. The only question is, where does JD Vance fit? We'll figure that out. But to me, if you're looking at resume and capability, Democrats don't got it.

• 1:47:53Tom Ellsworth?

  The Democrats are not dumb. And I think the Democrats have been on the sidelines a lot right now, trying to figure out what they want to do. And I don't think, and Pat said something about this two years ago, about the formidable nature of a, of a Michelle Obama, you know, running. And I agree with that. And right now, right now, I'll tell you, the Dems are looking for a savior. And they're not seeing it in the natural way it comes up. Nobody is showing up at above 25% as the prospective nominee. Nobody. So what have they got to do?

• 1:48:37Tom Ellsworth?

  They have to do a South Carolina thing. And I think I'm wrong on something I've been saying for a while. I've been saying that the money would hold back and go with JB Pritzker because he could carry Rust Belt. He could carry Illinois. That's the, that's the algebra on it. But he really doesn't seem like he's there. And so I think the DNC is trying to do something, just like I think, as Pat used the word fired. Eric Swalwell got fired this weekend by the DNC. They got to do something. And remember, money wins elections. They sit on the most amount of money and they direct the super PACs because the super PACs are connected to legislation. And they tell them if they're going to get their legislation or not. And they guide super PAC spending.

• 1:49:17Speaker 02

  And Vinny, can we just stop one thing, please? Can we, do me a favor? Stop it with the Michelle Obama nonsense.

• 1:49:23Tom Ellsworth?

  For 10 years, she's gonna run. She's never gonna run. She's never has run. She's never given any indication she's run. Wanna know why?

• 1:49:30Patrick Bet-David?

  She said it's time for a black-

• 1:49:31Tom Ellsworth?

  She's not built for this.

• 1:49:32Speaker 02

  She said this.

• 1:49:33Tom Ellsworth?

  She's not built for this.

• 1:49:34Patrick Bet-David?

  It's time for a black woman to be a president.

• 1:49:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, how's she gonna qualify?

• 1:49:39Speaker 02

  No, come on. I'm just saying, but, but you know what? But you know what? You know why? He makes a really good point about AOC, and I'm telling you guys right now, clip, somebody clip that and just save that for your own, whoever's listening to this. Mamdani Adam, one in New York. Nobody would have thought, bro, he came on a video yesterday saying, uh, we will not be ashamed of standing with our transgender neighbors. We will not be ashamed of being called socialist, and we will not be ashamed for fighting for immigrants targeted by ICE. It's, by the way, this is his first 100 days. He hasn't done anything. All right, he's canceling the free, the free buses thing, that's done, and he's saying in a year, they're gonna have free supermarkets, we're just gonna give away food. Don't sleep on these guys. That whole communist Marxist AOC,

• 1:50:23Speaker 02

  bro, and you notice, he made a good point, too. Everybody's quiet right now. Gavin's not out there talking crap, saying Donald Trump and yelling, and it's his wife. No, Gavin, when's the last time you heard Gavin?

• 1:50:32Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know, three days ago? Five days ago?

• 1:50:34Speaker 02

  No, I've seen his wife more than I've seen him out there. She's out there. She's out, because, by the way, Gavin can't avoid all this fraud and everything that's happening right now, so they're kind of keeping him on, on the hush, Adam, but he's gonna, trust me, he's gonna come out from under the rocks when it gets closer, because now we're in a war. How you gonna criticize? What is he saying about Trump? What's he gonna say?

• 1:50:51Tom Ellsworth?

  All he does is talk trash about Trump.

• 1:50:53Speaker 02

  No, I'm saying, right now, you haven't heard anything. Have you, Tom? When's the last time? All I'm saying is-

• 1:50:57Tom Ellsworth?

  What's your point with Mamdani?

• 1:50:58Speaker 02

  My thing is, don't sleep. America, New Yorkers overwhelmingly got Mamdani in. So, he's the same, him and AOC are cut from the same cloth. Don't sleep on that whole-

• 1:51:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Mamdani is the now face of the Democratic Party, and if he's not, the Republicans should make him the face. By the way, to answer your question about who has more power, Catholics or Jews, if I may, Jews run New York, right? They couldn't even get Cuomo elected.

• 1:51:23Patrick Bet-David?

  A lifelong Democrat, Mamdani comes in, never heard about him until a year ago, becomes the mayor of New York City? It just proves to me, either New York, the Jews don't run New York, or they gotta step their game up. You know what's even funny? What's that? Neither Jews could get Cuomo elected, neither could Catholics get Cuomo elected. So what does that tell you? What does that tell you? That New York is, uh... What does that tell you? The number one financial capital of the world, Jews, neither Jews or Catholics could get a Catholic. Isn't Andrew Cuomo Catholic? Yes, of course. Couldn't get an Italian Catholic elected. Chris Cuomo, where you at, Adam? Can you imagine that? And by the way, let me tell you, watch your language. I'm sorry about that. Watch your language. We know what that means, you can't... I don't even know what that means. Yeah, you do. You know exactly.

• 1:52:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I just said it wrong at the end. You know exactly. What is it? So, okay, all right, so let me get to the next story. Next story I want to get to is, uh, let me see, which one is it that I wanted to get to? There's one, oh, did you guys see this crazy guy knocking on the door of a guy trying to look for the... The daughter. The daughter? Yeah. And then he got in, have you guys seen this or no? And then shoveled the guy? There is a few of them, I think you have the clips, okay? Start off, is that the one where he comes in and then he starts saying, "Open"? Okay, so first of all, this is a, okay, that's the one, play this clip. So watch this, terrifying moment where a Ring camera shows a deranged man in long coat crashing out,

• 1:52:48Patrick Bet-David?

  asking, "Where is your daughter?", and threatened the man on the camera that he will end him if he doesn't open the door. Go ahead, Rob.

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• 1:54:34Speaker 02

  Hello?

• 1:54:35Speaker 06

  Hello, can you open this door, please?

• 1:54:36Speaker 02

  For what?

• 1:54:38Speaker 06

  I just want to make sure that everything's okay. Make sure there's something going on.

• 1:54:42Speaker 02

  What? What do you mean?

• 1:54:45Speaker 06

  I don't know, I just figured I checked on something.

• 1:54:48Speaker 02

  I don't know what you want, man. Get out of my house.

• 1:54:51Speaker 06

  Open this fucking door!

• 1:54:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Flip flops and a dress code?

• 1:54:55Speaker 06

  Where's your daughter, man?

• 1:54:55Speaker 02

  What are you talking about?

• 1:54:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Where's your daughter?

• 1:54:57Speaker 06

  Where's your daughter? Who's in there with you?

• 1:54:59Speaker 02

  Bro. Bro, if you don't leave-

• 1:55:01Speaker 06

  Open this fucking door! Open this door, I'm breaking this fucking down. You understand me?

• 1:55:07Speaker 02

  Leave my house, you don't-

• 1:55:10Speaker 06

  Are you okay?

• 1:55:11Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:55:12Speaker 06

  Is everyone in this house okay?

• 1:55:13Speaker 02

  What? Everyone's okay, what do you want?

• 1:55:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Bro.

• 1:55:24Patrick Bet-David?

  State of California, by the way.

• 1:55:25Tom Ellsworth?

  This is Cali?

• 1:55:26Patrick Bet-David?

  This is Cali. Because if this is Texas or Florida, you know what's happening.

• 1:55:29Tom Ellsworth?

  It would have been all- this video would have been done after the two seconds.

• 1:55:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, is that the end of the video? Or, no, he's still standing there. Jacket's moving, watch this.

• 1:55:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, no.

• 1:55:36Patrick Bet-David?

  He's waiting for the dad to open the door because he wants to know if the daughter's inside. Okay? And he's just holding himself. He's about to go postal.

• 1:55:46Speaker 02

  Can you leave my house, please?

• 1:55:48Speaker 06

  Can you open the door, please?

• 1:55:51Speaker 02

  You have nothing to do with my house. Can you leave my house?

• 1:55:56Speaker 02

  I don't know who you are. You don't belong to this neighborhood. That's for sure.

• 1:56:00Speaker 06

  This is my neighborhood, though.

• 1:56:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, man.

• 1:56:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, I live there. I don't know you.

• 1:56:05Tom Ellsworth?

  This is Fat Man.

• 1:56:06Speaker 06

  My name is Harry Dresden, motherfucker.

• 1:56:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, man.

• 1:56:09Speaker 06

  Open the door. This is my neighborhood.

• 1:56:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Those eyebrows.

• 1:56:12Speaker 06

  Open the fucking door.

• 1:56:14Tom Ellsworth?

  They don't play. He's got the Shapiro's.

• 1:56:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Is that it? Harry Dresden to the rescue.

• 1:56:20Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:56:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, my.

• 1:56:22Speaker 06

  I will fucking end you.

• 1:56:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, my.

• 1:56:24Speaker 06

  Do you understand me?

• 1:56:26Speaker 02

  Well, people have lost their mind thinking they can talk like that.

• 1:56:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Does this guy know how sudden lightning works?

• 1:56:31Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:56:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Extremely, extremely suddenly.

• 1:56:34Speaker 02

  I think there's a video of him in the house, too.

• 1:56:36Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what I thought. I thought it was in the house.

• 1:56:38Speaker 02

  He gets in the house and the guy, the owner comes in with a shovel and is like, "Bro, get out of my house."

• 1:56:43Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, "Are you in the military?" Yeah, look at this.

• 1:56:49Speaker 02

  Has nobody called the cops?

• 1:56:53Tom Ellsworth?

  No 911?

• 1:56:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You know the guy has... What are the chances the guy's called the cops?

• 1:57:00Speaker 02

  I mean...

• 1:57:00Patrick Bet-David?

  He's called the cops.

• 1:57:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Of course.

• 1:57:02Speaker 02

  But what about the neighbor? Like, dude...

• 1:57:04Patrick Bet-David?

  So now, Rob, you want to play the other clip of the cops' angle? This guy keeps going like this. Lost his shit, right? But then there's another clip.

• 1:57:13Speaker 02

  Of him inside.

• 1:57:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have that one, Rob, too, or no? I watched it. So this is a different angle.

• 1:57:17Tom Ellsworth?

  He made it in?

• 1:57:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Of cops pulling up. And they're like, "What the hell are you doing?" Look at this. You see the cops in the back? Go ahead.

• 1:57:24Speaker 06

  No. I will fucking end you. Do you understand me?

• 1:57:31Tom Ellsworth?

  He thinks he's an Avengers movie.

• 1:57:39Speaker 02

  Oh, that's... Somebody had the shovel. That's the owner that had the shovel.

• 1:57:45Speaker 02

  So the owner dropped... Owner dropped the shovel.

• 1:57:50Tom Ellsworth?

  The audio is really...

• 1:57:51Speaker 02

  There's a dog.

• 1:57:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Durbin.

• 1:57:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Bro, if you have a...

• 1:57:56Speaker 02

  Did he say, "Kill you"?

• 1:58:01Speaker 02

  Dude. What's going on here?

• 1:58:02Patrick Bet-David?

  This guy, this guy is dating the owner's daughter.

• 1:58:05Speaker 02

  Is he?

• 1:58:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if he's dating or something. He wants to come and see the daughter. Look at this. This is California. Cops come in. They're checking the guy. Did they handcuff him?

• 1:58:20Speaker 02

  Whoever sells a trench coat in California, you gotta monitor that guy. What you doing with trench coat?

• 1:58:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Bob, what do we know about this on what happens? What does the community note say? Can you go to the community note right there? Zoom in a little bit. Jason Thomas Nichols was arrested in Fairfield, California, April 7th, after a viral Ring doorbell video shows him aggressively banging on the door. Where's your daughter? And claiming to be a fictional wizard named Harry Dresden.

• 1:58:42Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 1:58:43Patrick Bet-David?

  He faces charges, including first degree criminal threats, vandalism and assault with a deadly weapon and bail set for $35,000.

• 1:58:51Speaker 02

  He'll be out in two days.

• 1:58:53Patrick Bet-David?

  He'll be out in two days. Yeah, a guy like this.

• 1:58:54Speaker 02

  In California, he'll be out. He'll be out.

• 1:58:57Patrick Bet-David?

  But do you remember back in the days, there was a movie with Mark Wahlberg? 20 plus years ago called Fear.

• 1:59:02Speaker 02

  Fear, of course. When he did this. Oh. If you haven't seen that movie, I highly recommend. He did fantastic in it. Well, Reese, Reese Witherspoon.

• 1:59:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah. Reese Witherspoon and the other girl.

• 1:59:11Patrick Bet-David?

  What year was this? Not 20 years ago, 30 years ago.

• 1:59:14Speaker 02

  30?

• 1:59:15Patrick Bet-David?

  30 years ago. It's been 30 years. 96.

• 1:59:16Speaker 02

  I graduated high school.

• 1:59:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Me too. Yeah. So when that happened.

• 1:59:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:59:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, guys like this are out there. Parents.

• 1:59:22Speaker 02

  Let me in the house.

• 1:59:23Patrick Bet-David?

  They gotta be involved on who their girls dated and who their girls.

• 1:59:26Speaker 02

  Guys, I don't know. I think you're looking at this all wrong. It's a love story. It's just a love story.

• 1:59:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You're right. In California, it is.

• 1:59:31Speaker 02

  It's a love story.

• 1:59:32Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, Vinny.

• 1:59:33Speaker 02

  An old school love story.

• 1:59:34Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is your daughter.

• 1:59:35Speaker 02

  A man and a woman. Old school.

• 1:59:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, I'm gonna ask the two of you guys. I'm gonna come to you. A guy comes in and is asking for your daughter, Tom. How do you handle this?

• 1:59:43Speaker 02

  Like this?

• 1:59:44Tom Ellsworth?

  On this, number one, I will, I will call the authorities immediately. And I would, um, make sure that, um, first of all, at home.

• 1:59:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Kim and I would, as soon as this guy comes up, Kim and I would both arm up and be ready for the door to come down.

• 2:00:00Speaker 02

  Tom, I walk around with a gun just to do it. You and Kim would be like that couple in, uh, in like DC with the huge shotguns.

• 2:00:05Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, no, no, no, we have, we have appropriate home defense. We haven't got bazookas or anything, but we got appropriate home defense. Number one, I would arm up and call the police. Get the professionals.

• 2:00:15Speaker 02

  You and Kim right there, Tom.

• 2:00:16Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, I'm not gonna be Rambo. The number one, I'm gonna, I want-

• 2:00:19Speaker 02

  Tombo.

• 2:00:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I want the professionals on my front doorstep as fast as possible.

• 2:00:23Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:00:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, number one, so I would call. Number two, you know, I, I arm up. Number three, I, I prepare, you know, secondary exit and escape routes, cause I don't wanna engage. This is what they tell you. This is concealed weapon, people tell you this, I'll tell you this. This is what I would do. However, that's at the point. I don't think this will happen at my house because of the way we've raised our daughters and the cautions we've given them. And we, we never, ever, ever point to issues that any of kids at their school had and say, "See, see, see, danger, danger, danger." What we say is, "What do you think happened there? What were the bad decisions that led there? You gotta process." And we ta- taught the

• 2:01:06Tom Ellsworth?

  girls to reason and resist. Resist the bad decisions of life and reason through everything and be prepared for it. And we use these as cautionary tales. But that's what I would do if it was happening on my porch pad. I'm not gonna be Rambo, I want the professionals.

• 2:01:20Speaker 02

  Tom.

• 2:01:21Tom Ellsworth?

  But I am gonna arm up and if that door comes down, I, I hate to say it, there's, there's-

• 2:01:27Speaker 02

  Call Dan. Dan's like, "Call me."

• 2:01:30Tom Ellsworth?

  That's right. 1-800-CALLED-DAN. And I'm gonna, and I'm gonna be preparing.

• 2:01:35Speaker 02

  I tell you.

• 2:01:36Tom Ellsworth?

  I want the professionals there, right?

• 2:01:38Speaker 02

  Tom, let me explain something to you.

• 2:01:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom.

• 2:01:39Speaker 02

  If I was married and had a daughter and that dude kicked my door, I, guess what would've happened? My wife would've been calling Home Depot to find out if there was discounts on doors, cause that would've had holes in it. Cause Tom, if that guy comes in, you don't know if he has a knife, you don't know if he's armed and he's trying to go-

• 2:01:55Tom Ellsworth?

  That's why I'm calling 911 and two seconds later, Kim and I are fully armed.

• 2:01:59Speaker 02

  Oh, 911, first and foremost, but I'm waiting at the door, Tom. Wherever he goes- Goes, I'm following him with a gun. You're not coming in my house. He got in the house. He got in the house and the owner had a shovel because he's looking for his daughter, Tom. And I'm sorry, you gotta protect your home. What about you? I can't, can you imagine coming to the door? Senna is 18 years old and that guy is on your ring cam pad and you see him on the ring cam and you're home.

• 2:02:24Patrick Bet-David?

  He has to worry about Tico.

• 2:02:25Speaker 02

  Oh, I know, at that age.

• 2:02:27Patrick Bet-David?

  But to me, no, no, this, this is not gonna happen. Because, listen, if something like this happen. There are certain things happens in life where the father is capable of going to, you know, whatever kind of a, you know, uh, uh, punishment and all that stuff. You want to be as measured as possible. It's easy as a, to get emotional and say, I put a bullet in and I would do this and I would do that. You, you, your kids need you not in jail. But if it gets to a point of you stepping in.

• 2:02:52Speaker 02

  The house.

• 2:02:53Patrick Bet-David?

  It's done. It's not even a hesitation.

• 2:02:55Tom Ellsworth?

  That's, I completely agree.

• 2:02:57Patrick Bet-David?

  No hesitation. You're like, hey, and by the way, FYI, just so everybody knows this. This is one of the reasons why I left the state of California to live in Texas and to live in Florida. Okay, in Florida, you could walk around, a lot of people carry here. You can go to a restaurant, people carry here.

• 2:03:14Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:03:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, today, we're driving in, guess what? M16 in the front seat, like literally sitting there. Why is it sitting there? Just a regular conversation and it's sitting right there. I like that.

• 2:03:25Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:03:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I like that. You have to be safe nowadays because the reality of it is, there's a lot of crazies out there. So. Anyways, all right, let's go to next story.

• 2:03:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at this kid, I'll just say one thing.

• 2:03:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Show me that you've never been laid without telling me you've never been laid. You're telling me some grown man child wizard is showing up at the door, demanding the daughter. I'm assuming, I have no clue what's going on, I'm just reacting to his video. This is a man who's obsessed with a girl. She's probably given him zero attention. Maybe said hi to him. He thinks in his trench coat that he's the superhero. Shows up to the door as Batman, apparently, telling the dad, get out of the way. Where's your daughter? I'm assuming this guy with three names, of course, Jason Thomas Nichols. We know the whole three name thing situation. Has never been had a girlfriend, and this is how you react. Be careful out there, gentlemen. Uh, don't end up like this guy.

• 2:04:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 2:04:21Tom Ellsworth?

  No, that's why you call the police. 911 is number one. Number two, what is your exit plan? And then what is your engagement plan? You have to have all that set up. And we're, and we're. Kind of engagement plan. I'll tell you what, Tom, we don't want this guy getting engaged to your daughter. I'm telling you what it is. It's. We don't want him getting engaged to your daughter, Tom. No, this is nine millimeter, 147 grand hollow tip engagement. Okay, different type of engagement, respect. Yeah, that's what this is. And I'm ready, but I'm not going to be Rambo and open the door. Tom, you're built for this. Stop. No, no, no. But if he comes down that door, the police are already on their way. And then I'm gonna, I'm gonna air him out.

• 2:04:56Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, you know, you look at Tom and you think about a, uh.

• 2:05:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Rambo.

• 2:05:01Patrick Bet-David?

  What? No, no. You think, when you look at Tom, you think about somebody that's like, oh, he couldn't harm anybody. Tom's got a very weird side to him that nobody's seen.

• 2:05:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom is ruthless.

• 2:05:10Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, his family feels very sa- I've seen Tom go zero to a whole different person.

• 2:05:16Speaker 02

  Pat, do you, do you know the iguanas in his neighborhood? What?

• 2:05:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I will murder you. What is that one scene? It says, I will.

• 2:05:25Tom Ellsworth?

  No, that's Tropic Thunder.

• 2:05:26Speaker 02

  I will hit you.

• 2:05:27Patrick Bet-David?

  He will hit you, Tom Cruise.

• 2:05:29Speaker 02

  I've seen Tom, like Tom Cruise in Tropic Thunder.

• 2:05:32Patrick Bet-David?

  With that song. What is the song?

• 2:05:34Tom Ellsworth?

  That's not usually how I start, right? We encountered some people in, um.

• 2:05:38Patrick Bet-David?

  New Orleans.

• 2:05:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Ludicrous. Yeah. And I just like, I'm usually easy first. And I looked at the guy and I said, that is a remarkably bad decision.

• 2:05:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:46Tom Ellsworth?

  And that was my first.

• 2:05:47Speaker 02

  I love that you broke it down. You're vernacular.

• 2:05:49Patrick Bet-David?

  That was 48 oysters later.

• 2:05:51Speaker 02

  Oh, forget it.

• 2:05:52Patrick Bet-David?

  This was like 12 years ago. It was a long time ago.

• 2:05:54Tom Ellsworth?

  It was a while ago.

• 2:05:54Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. So let me, let me get to next story. Let me get to next story. So. All right, let's talk about these data centers, man, that a lot of people are worried about. Voters ousted. Half of Missouri City Council for greenlighting a $6 billion AI data center.

• 2:06:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So if you want to pull this up, check this out, guys. And this is going to lead to a story with Maine, which they kind of go together. And Tom, if you wanted to kind of go, you know, combine the two stories together, feel free to do so. You don't have to wait for me to separate the two stories. So the billion is so where's this page at? Page 24. Uh, is it page 24? What page is this thing on?

• 2:06:33Tom Ellsworth?

  23 and 25.

• 2:06:34Patrick Bet-David?

  23 and 20. I'm on 23. I don't see Missouri on 23.

• 2:06:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Really?

• 2:06:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, there it is. Okay. Voters in Missouri's town ousted four city council members Tuesday for supporting the AI data center in the area. Voters in the town. Uh, is this a video, Rob? Yes, sir. Go for it. This is council approved $6 billion data center despite public pushback. Look at this.

• 2:07:00Tom Ellsworth?

  They say no dating?

• 2:07:01Patrick Bet-David?

  They don't want data center.

• 2:07:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, data.

• 2:07:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Tuesday vote followed months of, uh, uh, uh, at times ruckus opposition against the CRG. Clayco planned to build a hyperscale data center on 360 acres in the town. The four city council members who lost their reelection bids were defeated by candidates who ran against the data center and supported more transparency. This data center right fight has struck the community to the core and really honestly ignited a community driven effort. Here said Dan Moore, who defeated the pro data center incumbent, Bobby Benz, told St. Louis Public Radio, "People are awake now and we're not going to let this continue on anymore." Tom?

• 2:07:39Tom Ellsworth?

  So here's what's going on. Um, two things happened in America. Now, connect the dots really, really fast. We have been not allowing appropriate permits for new power in this country. And we think nuclear power is Three Mile Island 1977? Or something like that? Whenever the disaster happened? I think it was 77. Um, check me on that. And so we haven't been doing it. Meanwhile, and we also see, oh my gosh, the tsunami in Fukushima and all the people that got, you know, radiation poisoning in Japan, when that power plant. And then newer power plants have been built in crazy places like France, allowing new fifth

• 2:08:24Tom Ellsworth?

  generation, I think it's fifth and sixth generation data. They haven't been doing that in the US. Meanwhile, our power consumption's been going up just with regular IT and EVs. California, you can't even get an off-peak power plan for your house that's as inexpensive as it was 10 years ago. 10 years ago, you used to get cheap power in the evening, sun goes down, you can run the air conditioner at night, and it cost you less per hour of electricity or per kilowatt. Not no more. You have all the EVs. How is this going to data centers? Data centers are arriving on the scene when America's terrible energy policies under Obama and Biden have led to an electricity shortage in America because we don't have enough power

• 2:09:08Tom Ellsworth?

  plants. And so now the data centers have thrown it over the top. Power has gone up. We covered two weeks ago that the bid for power in the eastern region around Baltimore was up 30X over five years. 30X. Bam. Yeah, exactly. And do you have the chart showing, Rob, the chart showing the build-out of data centers? So now the citizens are going in and saying, hey, man, the, it's a multi-color chart. I sent it to you today, Rob, to you directly. Gotcha. So now Maine has said, we're outlawing these. There will be no data centers here. Number one. Number two, we have Missouri, people showing up because they're equating

• 2:09:51Tom Ellsworth?

  data centers with electric costs. And so they don't, and data centers have been overpaying people for their land. Remember the woman we covered a week and a half ago, Pat? She said, I'm not selling my farm for 20X. And people around her and her neighbors were like, hey, we're really, I really appreciate that you did this. There it is. So now take a look at this, Pat. Look at data center pipeline. Here's the announced data centers and the blue at the top is the ones that are actually under construction. They are being blocked by citizens. So guess what? Electrical power is going to keep going up for the data centers that are built and the fact that America already has an electricity shortage because of EVs and other usage.

• 2:10:34Tom Ellsworth?

  And you have Oracle and Google actually got permission to build small micronukes to supply their own data center and the president, something that I've been outspoken about, he got the rate payer pledge. And I'm like, Mr. President, that was a nice pledge to get in Q1 of this year, just a couple of months ago, but you need to turn that into rate payer legislation so that you protect the consumer. But that's what's going on. Citizens are now showing up, Pat, and they're equating the next data center with the next utility hike and they're not having it. And those are not crazies. Those are citizens sitting in a gymnasium coming unglued in Missouri with their city

• 2:11:19Tom Ellsworth?

  council who wants to vote for it because you know what it means? Property tax money for the city and they think it means, you know, 40 to between 40 to 100 construction jobs for about a year and a half and then usually only about 10 to 15 data center workers. But they want the property tax money, but the people are freaking out about electricity.

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• 2:13:11Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, I'm not going to be the data center guy, but I will say what's important for the viewer out there. Understand that local politics is the most important politics you should have in your life. We're so focused with what Trump is doing, what Trump is tweeting, or if you don't live in New York, what did Mom Donnie say? I don't care about California. Gavin Newsom, you know, my boy Swalwell, all this. But here's the question to you. Do you know your local mayor in your town? Do you know the name? I guarantee you know Mom Donnie's name because he's all over the news. I know, I know, I didn't pay attention to local politics. I'm just starting to really pay attention. I'm here in Miami. Shout out to Mayor Francis Suarez, the new mayor of the Eileen Higgins, Democrat, came in. Mayor Steven Miner in Miami Beach. Florida, greatest state in the Union, by far and away.

• 2:13:56Speaker 02

  Shout out to Ron DeSantis. Byron Donalds, likely to be the next governor, lest Jay Collins has something to do with it. I think Fishback is taking his fish back. I don't think that's happening. But the most important thing for you is understand your local politics because that affects you way more than anything that Trump does, by far. So shout out to these voters and these In Missouri, Missoura, you know, basically weighing in on what this data center is.

• 2:14:20Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a good point.

• 2:14:21Speaker 02

  And that's what you should do at home.

• 2:14:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Good point. So, good point. So, what I'll do is to wrap up the story with a couple interesting ones. Rob, can you do me a favor? Go to the site instead of this, because the site allows you to just type in top 55 greatest soccer players of all time. I showed this to Sean and Dylan the other day. Honestly, I thought I thought they were gonna lose. I thought they were gonna call Sports Illustrated complaining. Sports Illustrated announces the top 55 greatest soccer players of all time. Okay, go a little bit low, Rob. Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. It's gonna take a long time if you go that speed. So, so we got a couple names, you know, top number 55, Nor. Go to number 35, because a lot of these guys are gonna keep going. They put Neymar at 51, by the way. Go to 35.

• 2:15:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, Dylan was not happy.

• 2:15:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to 35. He was not happy about that. Javi, okay, 35. Keep going, keep going, keep going. Suarez, 34, greatest. Keep going, keep going, keep going. Carl Heinz, okay. Andres Iniesta, fine. At 32, Rivellino. Old school, Brazil. I believe he's a Brazil guy. Is he a Brazil guy? I think he was a Brazil guy. Keep going. Keep going. Bobby Moore, Socrates at 29. Keep going, keep going, keep going. Old school 1950s player. And then all of a sudden, Ronaldinho 26th. Okay, fair Ronaldinho 26th. Keep going, Vinny. Keep going, keep going. Rude. Keep going. Bobby Charlton. They know these names because of Giuseppe Misaf

• 2:15:49Patrick Bet-David?

  from video games, 1934, 38. Back in the day's time was following this stuff. Raymond Copa, keep going.

• 2:15:54Speaker 02

  Saw him play.

• 2:15:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I saw him play.

• 2:15:56Speaker 02

  Mario.

• 2:15:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Romario, phenomenal. By the way, Romario was a temperamental player that would beat people up. One of the most fierce little guy, but he would beat, like, he would fight anybody and everybody. He would slap you in the face.

• 2:16:08Speaker 02

  Kind of reminds me of a guy I know named Mario.

• 2:16:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Keep going. Romario, Eusebio.

• 2:16:13Speaker 02

  Marco Van Basten.

• 2:16:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep going, keep going. Now, watch what happens at number 15. Zico 17. Keep going.

• 2:16:21Patrick Bet-David?

  16, Franco Baresi, look at 15.

• 2:16:25Speaker 02

  That's insane, bro. Those guys are no.

• 2:16:27Patrick Bet-David?

  They ranked them 15th all time.

• 2:16:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, let's see where this list heads.

• 2:16:32Patrick Bet-David?

  15th all time. Keep going.

• 2:16:34Tom Ellsworth?

  He's in the top 20, he should be happy.

• 2:16:36Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you lost like.

• 2:16:37Speaker 02

  Farhan Puskas? Like what?

• 2:16:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep going, don't forget about him, he was great. Paolo Maldini, Paolo, Paolo Maldini from Milan, AC Milan. Jurt Mueller, you gotta respect him, German guy, okay, he was great. Main Garinka, okay, and then you have Alfredo Di Stefano. Keep going, Alfredo Di Stefano, everybody knows.

• 2:16:58Speaker 02

  Roberto Baggio.

• 2:17:00Tom Ellsworth?

  I know that guy.

• 2:17:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Baggio who missed the kick in the World Cup and that's the one thing that everybody never forgets. Keep going, but he was a beloved.

• 2:17:07Speaker 02

  Platini.

• 2:17:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Platini, keep going. Now watch, it's Ronaldo, the OG Ronaldo, the old school Ronaldo, by the way, fun fact.

• 2:17:14Tom Ellsworth?

  The fat Ronaldo.

• 2:17:14Patrick Bet-David?

  We had Khabib at the event, I'm interviewing Khabib. I tell the guys do some research on who his favorite player of all time is, Tom, I don't know if you remember this. So we get him, because it says his favorite player of all time is Ronaldo. We get a Ronaldo signed autograph ball. And at the end of the interview, I say, hey man, we got you a gift, we saw that your favorite player was Ronaldo. They hand him over the soccer ball, he says, no, not this Ronaldo, I like the old Ronaldo.

• 2:17:41Tom Ellsworth?

  The fat one now.

• 2:17:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep going, keep going, 6.

• 2:17:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Did he take it? That's your boy right there, Zidane, no, you're like, you're like the other guy.

• 2:17:47Speaker 02

  Head butted the guy.

• 2:17:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Here's your head, you're like the other guy.

• 2:17:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Johan, keep going, keep going. Now the top 3, top 3, who the top 3 on Sports Illustrated?

• 2:17:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Messi's in the top 3 obviously, Pele is number 1.

• 2:17:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Who else is top 3?

• 2:18:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Pele's number 1.

• 2:18:01Speaker 02

  Mario.

• 2:18:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, Landon Donovan from the US.

• 2:18:03Patrick Bet-David?

  You got Maradona, you got Pele, and you have Messi.

• 2:18:06Tom Ellsworth?

  The hand of God.

• 2:18:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Rank it.

• 2:18:07Tom Ellsworth?

  The hand of God.

• 2:18:08Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you think this goes?

• 2:18:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Pele's 1.

• 2:18:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Rank the top 3, okay, so Pele's 1, who's 2 in your eyes?

• 2:18:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Messi's 2.

• 2:18:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Messi's 2, Maradona's 3.

• 2:18:15Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what I'm going for.

• 2:18:15Patrick Bet-David?

  So you got Pele.

• 2:18:16Tom Ellsworth?

  But I know the NBA, Pat, you know me.

• 2:18:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Messi, Maradona, Tom, how do you do it?

• 2:18:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I can't vote because I know about it.

• 2:18:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you know about it, okay.

• 2:18:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Because you're Canadian?

• 2:18:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, so go to it.

• 2:18:24Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I.

• 2:18:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at number 3, number 3 is Pele.

• 2:18:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Get, go on get.

• 2:18:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Sports Illustrated put Pele as number

• 2:18:33Speaker 02

  Wow. Three. So they're gonna put Messi number one?

• 2:18:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Three World Cups.

• 2:18:36Speaker 02

  They're gonna put Messi number one.

• 2:18:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Eight, sixty-two, and seventy.

• 2:18:38Speaker 02

  No, Messi can't be number one.

• 2:18:39Patrick Bet-David?

  And then number two is

• 2:18:40Speaker 02

  It's about winning?

• 2:18:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Number two is Maradona.

• 2:18:43Speaker 02

  Wow. Diego.

• 2:18:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And you know who they put number one?

• 2:18:45Speaker 02

  Obviously Messi.

• 2:18:46Patrick Bet-David?

  They put Messi as the greatest player of all time in soccer.

• 2:18:48Speaker 02

  What's their justification?

• 2:18:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, Sports Illustrated, they can justify whatever they want to justify. But they're saying this guy was a balloon de or winner oh nine, ten, eleven, twelve, fifteen, nineteen, twenty-one, twenty-three, FIFA World Cup, Player of the Year, Barcelona's all-time top scorer, La Liga all-time goal scorer, six-time Pichichi winner, Argentina's. I'm gonna get so many men's would hate today, but I will tell you this to the Ronaldo community, because we have a few in our household.

• 2:19:14Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:19:14Patrick Bet-David?

  To put him number fifteen, I think it's crazy. They should at least put him fourteen. I think it's gonna pop.

• 2:19:20Speaker 02

  Dylan's gonna be so mad when he hears that?

• 2:19:23Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no, of course, what he's done, he

• 2:19:26Speaker 02

  Can we end the debate then?

• 2:19:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Which is what?

• 2:19:28Speaker 02

  Messi's better than Ronaldo.

• 2:19:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, this World Cup.

• 2:19:31Speaker 02

  Straight up.

• 2:19:31Patrick Bet-David?

  If Messi wants to finish the argument.

• 2:19:34Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:19:34Patrick Bet-David?

  If he wins one more.

• 2:19:35Speaker 02

  What do you mean, finish the argument? You know what?

• 2:19:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I understand what you're saying.

• 2:19:38Speaker 02

  Did Cristiano Ronaldo ever win a World Cup?

• 2:19:41Patrick Bet-David?

  No, never.

• 2:19:41Speaker 02

  Nunca.

• 2:19:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Never.

• 2:19:42Speaker 02

  Okay, Messi's the guy.

• 2:19:44Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, anyways, we're doing this story because the World Cups are on the corner. And guys, by the way, just so you know, there's gonna be special, I'm telling you guys in advance, we're gonna do special Future Looks Bright hats by countries. Okay, and we're doing small amount, not a lot of them. So some of the countries, you guys will gonna get a chance to get yours. And America's hat looks ridiculous, is what it looks like, absolutely ridiculous. But having said that, Monday Morning Podcast, great to spend time with you guys. If you're watching, if you haven't yet subscribed, fifty-one percent of you guys watch without subscribing, please do so, it helps out with our algorithms. Rob, any announcements for tomorrow, Thursday?

• 2:20:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe?

• 2:20:20Speaker 02

  Maybe tomorrow at nine AM.

• 2:20:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe tomorrow, but we gotta talk about it. So stay tuned, maybe we do something tomorrow, nine AM. If not, Business Podcast on Wednesday. Take care, everybody, God bless. Bye-bye, bye-bye.

• 2:20:31Speaker 02

  Bye-bye.

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