Pam Bondi FIRED As Attorney General | PBD #769

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana break down U. S. strikes on Iran’s B1 bridge, Pam Bondi’s firing and Todd Blanche stepping in as Acting AG, DeSantis passing the SAVE Act in Florida, Trump calling NATO a paper tiger, and the Charlie Kirk bullet controversy. ———— Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠ 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:02Speaker 00

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright? My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right here.

• 0:09Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:10Speaker 00

  My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:20Speaker 00

  My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, so it's Good Friday today. I haven't worn a pink shirt, God knows for how long. Vinny, literally, I can't think of the last time I wore a pink shirt. Tom, you got a nice purple shirt and a purple tie on. Adam's all black, Elon all black, Vinny all black. The rest of us add a little bit of color. Rob, what do you got on? Well, it's Easter weekend, right? Rob's got a little bit of blue on, so... Is pink the color for Easter? Is that the color? I don't know. Pink and purple, purple's for... For Easter, but I just kind of think about some of the colors. Uh, for those of you guys that got big plans this weekend, if you're a follower of the old philosopher Joe Biden, I know you guys are gonna be doing Easter with these potatoes, because it's like the woke thing to do, and I respect you guys. But those of you guys that are gonna do it the traditional way and celebrate the event that happened at 9:00 a.m., which Vinny's gonna tell us right now in a minute,

• 1:13Patrick Bet-David?

  why we do what we do today. And we got a lot of stories to get into, a lot of them. Trevor Bauer is looking like he's got a strategy of how to get into the Major League Baseball, and there's some fans here that wanna root him on, and I messaged him yesterday. I'm excited to see what happens with him. DeSantis is making some big moves. Pam Bondi just got fired yesterday. Reports of Tulsi maybe next. Todd Blanch was on Fox yesterday talking about, was there... The reason for it is because of how maybe Pam Bondi and Swalwell, back in the days, you know, was something tipped off, and he said, "No," I think Jesse asked the question. Elon's got some thoughts on that. Canada, we have to talk about the story today that Canada believes, you know, talking about the Bible, where maybe some of the stories in there

• 1:56Patrick Bet-David?

  that are against LGBTQ Bible may be considered hate speech, and they're at the final stages of what's gonna be happening with that. And then...

• 2:04Patrick Bet-David?

  A bridge in Iran on its way to Karaj got hit. And I know this bridge because my dad and I would drive on this bridge to the place he worked at, at a factory in Karaj in his Gion card that he had, which we'll play the clip and we'll talk about that. Eight people were killed and many, many injured. I think the number is 95 wounded, could be a little bit higher now as the reports are getting more and more. The bullet with Charlie Kirk, and we have to talk about that because we haven't touched on that yet. And then Erica Kirk Druisky, did we ever talk about that on the podcast at all? We did. Have we touched that story? I don't think we have, we'll touch that story. And then oil prices, if you look at it right now, it went all the way up to 112, 113, 114 yesterday.

• 2:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And it got back down to 101, it is back up to 112 again today. I know Tom's got some thoughts to say about that. And on top of that, you know, one of the astronauts was asked about, how do you feel as a black man? And his answer is beautiful, it's what we need more in America today, I want to play it for you. And then aside from that, let me see what else I got here that I'm tracking. A number that came in with the mass exodus, California, I want to address that, we didn't do it the other day. Trump's approval rating on economy hits a new low, according to CNN, we have to show that because typically, we show the good, we got to show the bad as well when it happens. And then what else we got here? We got a couple of the Kristi Noem's husband cross stressing, Vinny's really interested in that.

• 3:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Because, you know, when you have stories like that, you have to know, a guy like Vinny, all he thinks about is sketches. Yep. So we were honestly like, we were parting, I, I, I thought it wasn't a good idea. Tom brought up this idea saying, why don't we all do the podcast today with balloons? Yep. I, I said, I think it's inappropriate. I have them in the. And then eventually after a long conversation together, he agreed. And so we're not going to be doing it, but don't be surprised if a sketch is coming soon with Vinny. And, and that may be coming soon. And by the way, she herself answered, right? She said she was devastated and she was surprised and, and what happens. We just come up with ideas and we got to filter. No, no, I love that, I respect that, we, listen, the year of solving bigger problems, that's just not that big of a problem, it's just balloons. But we'll figure it out, we'll, we'll figure it out.

• 4:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And then of course, a must today, the story that we have to address, it's what's going on, the travesty that's going on in Nigeria. We have to touch that story 100%, but before we get started. Uh, one of my favorite people that I like to see and hear pray is Thomas Ellsworth. Okay, so Tom, today, Good Friday, before we start the podcast, I would like to see you lead us with a prayer. Go for it.

• 4:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Thank you very much. Our Lord, we just thank you for this time together and we just pray peace upon the nation, upon the world. And Lord, we come to you on this very special day for those in the Christian tradition. This is Friday. This is Good Friday with the crucifixion of Christ. And we all know in our hearts today, because we have the path of history, that Friday is here, but Sunday's coming. And we just thank you for that opportunity to, to be reverent this weekend. I pray for calmness and peace among the people. I pray for encouragement to people. But most of all, I pray that there is a sense of humanness that comes back to people reaching out to neighbors and turning down the tone of dialogue in the name of Good Friday and maybe finding the humanness and compassion and community that is in all of us.

• 5:24Tom Ellsworth?

  And we ask that your Holy Spirit be here and guide us in that. And we thank you so much in the Lord's name. Amen.

• 5:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Amen, amen. Thank you, Tom. Well done, Tom. Tomorrow, the, the interview with Lee Strobel, Case for Christ, goes out tomorrow morning. And we had a very, very good conversation together. Man, I mean, you know, he's, he's on my neck right now as well, but very, very good conversation. He was an atheist for 25 years. I was an atheist for 20, 28 years. I was an atheist for 25 years. And he explained why, which relationship in the family leads to sometimes men being atheists. And you just have to see this processing that we had together was fascinating. I didn't, I didn't know you were that atheist that long. Who? Me? 25 years. 25 years I was an atheist. Vocal atheist? Oh, I, I did not believe in anything. I, I got kicked out of Bible study. I got kicked out of Bible school in, in, uh, in Iran.

• 6:13Patrick Bet-David?

  My mom would have to come pick me up and the pastor would say that we can't have this guy in the class no more. So right after school, I would be playing outside. They say, you can't come in class. They wouldn't even let me get into class because of my position. This was in LA? In Iran, when I lived. In Iran? In Iran. Yeah, you have a hard time believing. And then when I come here, my parents got a divorce, so the whole thing for me was just a bunch of BS. I don't need it. Wow. January 21st of 04, my life changed. And the rest is history is I don't fear anything. But my God, I fear God. I can't even explain to you where that level of fear comes from. He's changed my life. The other day, me, Jen and Vinnie are sitting down, I think it was yesterday, we're having a conversation together. On how much this life makes no sense to me.

• 6:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:54Patrick Bet-David?

  How amazing of a life we have. The amount of things we have to be grateful for. I was reading a story this morning and I want to get into the stories we will. And I was reading a story this morning. It was, it's a story called the empty boat theory. I don't know if you've heard about this empty boat theory. Have you heard about this empty?

• 7:14Speaker 03

  No.

• 7:14Patrick Bet-David?

  The empty boat theory is a story about, imagine you're going in a boat, Tom. Tom, imagine you're going in a boat. I know, Rob, don't put the story up, just put it aside. Imagine you're going in a boat.

• 7:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And while you're going in this boat, all of a sudden another boat hits you.

• 7:34Patrick Bet-David?

  What's your immediate reaction?

• 7:35Speaker 03

  What the heck is going? What are you doing? You stupid, your boat, you're driving crazy?

• 7:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Unless if no one's in that boat.

• 7:43Patrick Bet-David?

  If no one's in that boat, who are you upset at?

• 7:46Speaker 03

  Nobody.

• 7:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody. So the only reason we get upset at the boat is why?

• 7:51Speaker 03

  People that are driving.

• 7:52Patrick Bet-David?

  The person that's in the boat to say it's your fault. Why did you do this?

• 7:57Patrick Bet-David?

  But sometimes we have to just kind of be like, dude, we don't know the story of whatever this individual's gone through in their life. We don't have a clue what this person's doing. You know, sometimes a lot of commentary will come in. And even when you're talking to the guys in Jubilee and these kids are calling you out and they send all this up, they're trying to get under your skin. Rage baiting is a business model today. Hundred percent is a business model today. So you have to either sit there. And when somebody is saying something to you saying, if this was an empty boat, what would my reaction be to this kid, be to this person, be to this man? We have to have that debate. We have to have the argument on the right topics. But also at the same time, for me, when it comes down to faith. You know, this, this whole thing of what God has done.

• 8:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Every single day I live my life, I can't believe the life I'm living. I cannot believe it. It's an amazing gift. It's an amazing opportunity we all have, the relationships. The challenges, the good, the bad. Sometimes, you know, you're going a million miles an hour and, and you don't want to take a time out. Sometimes God will do. In his own time out, he says, you don't want to take the time out, Vinnie? No problem, no problem, buddy.

• 9:01Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 9:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna schedule that time out for you. Go ahead, here you go. Here's your time out and then boom.

• 9:09Patrick Bet-David?

  And you have nothing going on. It happened to me last weekend when we had the time out. It's maybe we'll have a conversation one of these days.

• 9:15Adam Sosnick?

  See one more question, Pat, because I think, you know, in honor of Easter and it's also the same week as Passover. I had a very poignant conversation with my friend's dad, who's basically like a rabbi. I want to ask you, what percentage of your success and this crazy life that you've had and all these accolades, amazing things? Do you owe to yourself? And do you owe to the man upstairs?

• 9:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Hundred percent God. I'll tell you it's a hundred percent God and I'll tell you why, because

• 9:40Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I understand that.

• 9:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll explain it to you. Listen, it's funny, I'm talking to one of my friends who was my groomsmen at my wedding. And we had a falling out, we were supposed to start a company together, he and I, and last minute he decided not to and, and, uh, you know, it's, it's that relationship that's being built. The guy that mentored him was a guy named Greg. Greg used to say, work like it's up to you, but pray like it's up to God.

• 10:03Adam Sosnick?

  Mm-hmm.

• 10:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Right? So for me, I work like everything is on me. But if I tell you the amount of miracles that happened and everything that we've done, I don't control that. I don't take credit for that. The people that accidentally came into my life that led to like Dudley, me going to church and Dudley introduced me to three people, two out of the three that introduced me, one is Tom Hanks Ward, one is Matt Sapala. You know, no, I, I, I have a very hard time. It's, I think it's arrogant to take credit for all of that, in my opinion. Um, this is not, this is how I live my life. And, uh, yeah, we, you know, to me, a hundred percent God. Yeah, I'm, you know, I sit there, I'm like Dylan and I are having a conversation together. I'm like, you know, if this wasn't to happen, I would have never met you. What do you mean?

• 10:47Patrick Bet-David?

  If this single event doesn't happen, you and I never meet. We don't have this meeting. You know, sometimes we don't even know what's going on, like, you know, a story I told the other day about one of our. Friends who, you know, their fourth kid came out not the healthiest. And you know, I'm always encouraging people to have four plus kids. And so they called me and I watched the way they handled themselves. I was so impressed by these guys. But I had a call with them a week or two weeks ago and I said, I said, you have no idea what role this kid is going to play. To teach a level of sensitivity and awareness to your older three kids. That one of them one day is going to be a president. And the reason why that kid became a president is because of the youngest child. We don't have the answer to some questions. And by the way, some of the answers to questions we're not going to have.

• 11:31Patrick Bet-David?

  For decades, for decades, decades, we're not going to have answers to these questions. So. To answer your question to me, it's a hundred percent him.

• 11:38Adam Sosnick?

  The only, I don't want to say pushback, I'm not going to pushback against God is. Some of it has to be on you. Like the, the conversation I had with my friend's father. Uh, was everyone saying it's Passover, the Last Supper, apparently Jesus was celebrating Passover Pesach. And everyone's basically saying, broch ha'shem, thank God, thank God. And he looks to me, he goes, no, thank you. I said, what? He goes, it's on you. It's on you to do the things. It's on you to get up every day. It's on you to live your life. And then God, when he sees you doing the right things, he gives you the extra oomph. Right? You know, there's the famous phrase, man plans.

• 12:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You know why I say a hundred percent?

• 12:21Adam Sosnick?

  I want to understand that, yeah.

• 12:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me, out of the four trillion, you know, runners or swimmers. You think I did that?

• 12:32Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 12:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You think from, you know, all these other guys I was competing with when my mom and dad handled their business 48 years ago.

• 12:39Adam Sosnick?

  Twice.

• 12:40Patrick Bet-David?

  And all of a sudden, I'm the one that's chosen. You think that's me doing?

• 12:43Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 12:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I think this is the greatest miracle we have called life. And I, I, I, I want to believe that it's a hundred percent of him. And I'm going to do my part. You see, the reason why we're doing what we're doing today, and again, I don't want to say that. I wasn't expecting to go along on this story. I want to get into the story because the audience is probably expecting it. To me, the only reason I'm doing this. Is my life would be a lot more peaceful if we just took the check. We made a lot of money last year. Every, we make a lot of money. Life is very good for us, just purely on investment. If I never work for the rest of my life, my wife and I will live an incredible life with our kids, with all of that. I truly believe today, there's something very weird going on in the world, and I don't fully know what it is.

• 13:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if we're gonna know it fully right off the bat. It may take five, 10, 15, 20 years, maybe 30, 40 years to find out. But I do believe God is expecting us to step up and fight, and make the right arguments, and challenge many positions that we may have, and set the right example. Cause a lot of people need good examples today, and it's very, very hard to find. It's very, very hard to find today. And I, I take that as a responsibility, because, you know, to whom much is given, much is required.

• 13:52Adam Sosnick?

  Mm-hmm.

• 13:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I think sometimes, we, uh, uh, we wanna say, no, I did it. No, I did it. I talked to one of my employees the other day, at the event. And I said, so we had this little bit of a friction moment, and I said, why are you here? Why are you even working here? He says, because I really like the people. I said, you really like the people? I said, he says, yes. I said, what about the vision of the company? Do you believe in the vision? He says, I think you're gonna do something very special in your life. I said, you think I'm gonna do it? He says, yes. I don't think I'm gonna do it. He says, why not? I said, I think we're gonna do it. I said, you think I run the podcast by myself? You think I'm the one that, that you don't, you don't see the team behind that's cutting and doing all this stuff, the camera stuff? You don't think behind closed doors, the engineers are doing what they're doing with Manac, with higher metrics, with calibration?

• 14:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You think the event that we just put together at Celeste was just me? It was, it was the greatest event we put together for sales leadership. It was the most incredible event. How many hands are touching it behind closed doors? So to me, sometimes we really wanna believe it's me, I did it, and all this stuff. Dude, pump the brakes. Don't get me wrong. Where there's, you know, there's no vision, the people perish.

• 14:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 14:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I understand there's gotta be the visionary. I understand there's gotta be somebody that takes on the burden a little bit more than the rest. That's what comes with the territory. I had a conversation with a guy that you and I were talking about two days ago, who was kinda going through challenging times. I don't wanna mention the name. I called him and I said, hey, you chose this. And I want to encourage you to continue doing this because God's using you. Yep. Sometimes there's burden that comes with certain positions we take in life. Husband, father, business owner, influencer, a voice, an example. What comes with that? Burden. What comes with wealth? Burden. Handle it accordingly. Don't get out of control. Don't be reckless. Be grateful. Have some perspective for the people that have positively helped your life. And sometimes we freak. Anybody I've seen have a fall, forgot that.

• 15:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Anybody I've ever seen who went like this and there's a massive fall, in this moment, they think they did it all themselves. Big mistake. So anyways, I don't, again.

• 15:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Thank you, God. Tom, amazing prayer. Vinnie, what you said previous to us getting into it and just watching Vinnie lately when he's talking about his faith. Every time Vinnie opens his mouth, I'm learning now. Every time Vinnie goes into his faith and he's telling stories, and that was not the case two years ago. Vinnie today, when he gets into faith, get your paper and pen out because he's probably going to teach you something. You know, he's almost become like a little pastor on this podcast and he doesn't even know it. So anyways, having said that, let's get right into the stories. Guys, if you're watching this, you're part of the 51% that watches and doesn't subscribe. Take a quick moment, press that subscribe button. We're getting very close to 3 million. We'd like to take this thing to 5 million. With your help, we can make that happen. Having said that, let's get into the first story.

• 16:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I think the first story I want to get into is what happened with Iran yesterday.

• 16:44Patrick Bet-David?

  A major bridge was hit. And this bridge that we're talking about is a bridge from Tehran on the way to Karat. Rob, is this it? Yes, sir. Go for it, Rob. Go ahead and show this.

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• 18:30Patrick Bet-David?

  I've been over that bridge God knows how many times.

• 18:32Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 18:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, my God.

• 18:33Speaker 03

  What would you compare it to, like Brooklyn or George Washington?

• 18:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, no, but the point is, when my dad would go to Karaj to work, you would go from Tehran.

• 18:41Speaker 03

  Uh huh.

• 18:41Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're driving back and forth and, you know, Karaj, you know the way to put Karaj? Karaj is like, imagine you live in L.A. and Karaj is Palm Springs. It's like a, you know, two-hour drive, a two-hour drive in his Gian. So I don't know what the drive is in a Mercedes or a Porsche, but in his Gian, Gian would go 45 miles an hour.

• 19:02Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 19:02Patrick Bet-David?

  It was probably like an hour and 10-minute drive, hour and 20-minute drive. But that happened yesterday, 95 wounded. Rob, how many killed? I saw number eight. Has that been updated yet?

• 19:12Speaker 03

  Let me take a look. Last I saw was eight as well.

• 19:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, last I saw is eight. Tom, what do you think's going on with this? Because when you're hitting something like this, strategically, what do you think is behind this? What do you think is behind this attack here?

• 19:26Tom Ellsworth?

  I think they're...

• 19:29Tom Ellsworth?

  They're upping it and hitting these kind of infrastructure targets. They're just trying to break the back of the regime. But this regime doesn't care about its own people. It was happy to slaughter thirty, forty-two thousand, you know, and then they claimed, oh, only thirty-one hundred, which is horrifying in and of itself. No, no, no, we didn't do thirty-one thousand. It was only thirty-one hundred. Really? That's it? More than nine eleven? So that's fine with you? And so I think they're trying to break the back of the regime. And they're trying to hit key infrastructure. And I think it's also, there's another underlying thing here that, you know, I'm not on board with, but I think this may

• 20:09Tom Ellsworth?

  be part of the strategy. They're trying to get, I think, the people to rise up and to say, we want this done. This has got to be done. We've got to rise up too. I think that's where it's going. But this is so different from Venezuela. We only went in and got Maduro. We didn't hit any civilian targets. We wanted to leave the country intact and all the resources intact. So the people of Venezuela could come back up and live tomorrow with working power and water, right? There was all that talk about Venezuela. Remember this? And so now this is like, wow. It's civilian targets. But that's what I think, Pat. I think there's two-sided motivation going on here. And I don't like it.

• 20:51Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, this is a, there's a couple of bridges there. This was a, US took responsibility for this one. Yeah, US just came out and said, we take responsibility for this bridge that was attacked. And the reason why it was an important one is because there's ongoing, like, there's transport that happens from this bridge to different places with their drone development. Elon, where are you at with this?

• 21:18Speaker 07

  So I think the drone development issue is a massive issue, which goes much deeper than just this. We're gonna have to rearrange the way we've historically fought wars. Um, we, you know, drones are essentially, I hear that too. Do you guys hear?

• 21:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, I hear about, but the, the, the, the recording doesn't hear, so you're good.

• 21:34Speaker 07

  All right. Drones are essentially the new IED. They have to do whatever they can to get rid of them. Um, and, but the, the optics of attacking civilian infrastructure. This is a, this is an interesting war in the sense that the biggest threat to the US in this war is not just what's happening in Iran, but the general morale of Americans toward the war itself. And as Americans see these kinds of things, they tend to get more and more and more distasteful about our actions in the region. So I'm very much on, on Tom's side on this. It's clearly an escalation. They're clearly going in harder. I think they want this to end quicker. Um, and I think they're in a rock and a hard place and they're starting to do whatever they can. If this does limit Iran's drone capabilities, for whatever reason, if that was the intent behind it,

• 22:18Speaker 07

  I think that's the single most absolute necessary thing that the US can do right now. Military bases can be swarmed, which as we're learning, we don't have very good defenses against them. And it's just an incredibly costly thing, but no one wants to see human life being lost, civilians, uh, infrastructure being targeted. And again, I just want morale to stay high out of the United States.

• 22:40Adam Sosnick?

  I think the people of Iran are screwed.

• 22:43Adam Sosnick?

  And, uh, it's gonna get ugly. When Trump laid out his mission for what they wanted to do,

• 22:51Adam Sosnick?

  the ancillary effects were, let's help the people of Iran, let's maybe have a regime change. Those are all icing on the cake. I, I think that they laid out what their military objectives were, did they not? They said Rubio came out and said it. We're gonna eliminate their air force. We're gonna eliminate their navy. We're gonna defund their terror network. We're gonna stop them from going nuclear. All cleaning up, you know, there's like, you can clean up your house internally or clean up outside your house. I think the United States is basically saying. Clean up outside your house. Stop attacking your neighbors. Stop attacking the Gulf states. Stop attacking Israel. Stop shouting "Death to America." But whatever the hell you sickos want to do inside your house, that's on you. You want to kill your own people? Like you do.

• 23:36Adam Sosnick?

  Like you do so often? Unfortunately, that's on you. That sucks. Nobody wants death. Nobody's here saying "We want war." "We want death." The people that want death are the IRGC. They're killing their own people. So, someone's gonna pay the price for Iran's disgusting ideology. And unfortunately, it's going to be their own people.

• 23:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I, I, and Adam, you just saying that, not from, like, just because I'm hearing it, bothers me so much. Because this whole thing was about the people. Those thousands of people that on their own, it wasn't some BS. I saw, heard, oh, people were there trying to cite, no, no. The Iranian people said after 47 years, "Enough is enough." And they went there with no freaking weapons, bats and sticks and stuff like that. And they fought the freaking military. Okay, and, and the world finally saw it till they cut off the internet. Okay?

• 24:28Adam Sosnick?

  Did they fight the military, or are they doing a peaceful protest?

• 24:30Speaker 03

  No, no, well, it turned into that. And then finally, by the way, and I saw videos of the IRGC, because Iranians hiding in their apartments were recording the IRGC running and civilians driving over them. That's the only weapon that they had. You know what I mean? So, what my, and my thing is this, Adam, the, the, and I'm gonna keep going back to it, and I hate to repeat myself. I was under the impression, like, millions of Americans, that it was for the people. We all thought it was for the people. I thought the nuclear um, capability was destroyed months ago. By the way, Seymour Hersh, Pat, the journalist, who, by the way, he predicted the Iran nuclear bombing back then, he predicted the Nord Stream, he's the first one that, that talked about the Nord Stream pipeline.

• 25:13Speaker 03

  He said Trump's speech was a ground war announcement. He said Trump was telling, quote, "Telling the world that the ground war is on as of today." Navy SEALs, Army Rangers are either en route, or they're gonna be in zones within striking range, so the Strait of Hormuz, and saying that he could have up to 50,000 fighters ready to clear the Straight and dig out enriched uranium from tunnels under the nuclear sites. And that's what he's saying. And by the way, now we just killed, I, oh, I'm sorry. Seriously injured that Kamal Harazi, who was a Lead negotiator. The lead negotiator, they killed his wife. He's almost gonna die. We're taking out people like that.

• 25:48Speaker 07

  The optics on that are terrible.

• 25:49Speaker 03

  The optics are horrible. And then, and then this leads to my thing, Pat, and I'm sorry, guys, I keep going there. When, when we're like, why do we start this? I get it. And I'm with, uh, my mom and dad, our families are from there. It was for the people. But when Rubio said, hey, the reason we hit first, because Israel said, we're gonna do it without you. So we went first. Uh, because we want to protect our interests. Those 13 soldiers that died are our soldiers. Those weren't ground troops. Those are Americans stationed at those bases, dead. Because, because think about it. Marco Rubio, Marco Rubio said, hey, Israel said they're going, so we had to go. So we were, you doing, you're saying?

• 26:24Speaker 07

  Understand, but there's a very sad reality about this situation with Iran, which is uncomfortable no matter what. Uh, which is that it, they, they did lie about their nuclear proliferation. That was, you're right. We were told that we destroyed the base. The, the with bunker busters. Then they lied about their intermediate range.

• 26:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Last summer, they're talking about the, the hit last summer.

• 26:43Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 26:43Tom Ellsworth?

  The 52s flying over for the first time, supporting Israel.

• 26:46Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 26:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 26:48Speaker 07

  Which was a very clean, strategic military operation that went well. But then what we're seeing now, in terms of just what Iran has shown the world. It has shown the world it's willing to enrich uranium past 60%. The only country in the entire world with non-nuclear weapons doing that. And it's also lying to the UN watchdogs. Then what, what do we see next? What's the biggest threat to America from Iran? Arguably not the development of their nuclear power. The real threat is the development of their long-range ballistic missile system, which they lied about. They lied about it. This is a country that's yelling death to America, which is enriching uranium well beyond any utilitarian purpose. And has now lied about developing long-range ballistic missiles and proved it by literally launching them.

• 27:29Speaker 07

  So as much as we say Israel, as much as we say this, we do not in America have a national infrastructure to defend against ballistic missiles like Israel does. It's a much smaller landmass. They've been exposed to it for decades. And what we are in a position to do right now is either fight today, I believe, and I may be wrong about this, or fight in the future when they have this thing.

• 27:49Speaker 03

  Okay, but here's my question too, though. When we went in on the summer and we bombed their nuclear spots, why at that moment just take out everything? Go for it then, why wait now? Why wait this long? Because I'm telling you from a military standpoint, this, oh, now we just found out? We know everything that's happening over there, bro. We have satellite, we have imagery. The United States is the, we're gangsters, bro. We know everything. So the one thing that bothers me is, let me finish my point, please, is we know where everything is, we know where to bomb. Why in that moment didn't you just take it out? Because now, when you say, hey, it's for the people, now the same people that he's saying they're screwed, I hate that attitude because they're sitting there.

• 28:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Or you're saying they didn't take it out? Like when they went and shot the nuclear site?

• 28:30Speaker 03

  The nuclear site, go after all the ballistics.

• 28:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you a question, Vinnie. So, let's just say we, if you remember, and I'm trying to recollect what happened 24 hours later, there were rumors that said that you didn't hit all the sites.

• 28:44Speaker 03

  Deep enough, yeah, yeah.

• 28:45Patrick Bet-David?

  And then some, that's right. And then there was some rumors that they did. And then Trump came out and said, what? No, we hit it, it's destroyed, it's gone.

• 28:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:52Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's a question. What if we didn't? And what if he knew we didn't and they still have it? And if you got that intel, you have two choices. Publicly announce that you screwed up and now a successful mission is bad.

• 29:05Speaker 03

  Can't do that.

• 29:06Patrick Bet-David?

  And you have to control PR.

• 29:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Number two, if you know we didn't go deep enough, what's your recommendation, Mr. Vinnie? What should we do?

• 29:13Speaker 03

  Strike him again, obviously.

• 29:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so then that's the part that we don't have access to that.

• 29:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I agree with that because I'm not in those rooms.

• 29:20Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the point. If that's the case, knowing Trump is very careful on how he controls PR, you think Trump's gonna come out and say, we made a mistake, we didn't go deep? That'll never happen in a million years.

• 29:31Speaker 03

  No.

• 29:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Versus he's gonna say, we're gonna go back and get the job done. So you have to assume that that could be

• 29:35Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 29:36Patrick Bet-David?

  one of the possibilities.

• 29:37Adam Sosnick?

  I just want to make an analogy here. Because what I want from you is clarity. Because what I know, what I love about you is your passion. What I'm trying to understand is, alright, so you're for it, you're against it, you want to help the people? They never said that the number one objective was to help the people. That's a byproduct.

• 29:53Speaker 03

  Could we find out, Rob? What was the...

• 29:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Don't hang those young boys. I have your back.

• 29:59Speaker 03

  That was the first one that I heard, Adam, and it wasn't about...

• 30:02Adam Sosnick?

  That was before they announced their military campaign. They've come out and said, "Here's our objective." And we're still being like, "What's the objective?" They said, Rubio said it, Trump said it. Destroy their military capabilities, defund their terror networks, eliminate the nuclear threat. Regime change is a bonus. Helping the people is a bonus. So, here's my...

• 30:26Speaker 07

  The reality of the situation is, an Iran post-war without regime change results in inevitably the same thing we see again. It's like...

• 30:33Adam Sosnick?

  Maybe in 10 to 15 years.

• 30:34Speaker 07

  Maybe even worse.

• 30:35Speaker 03

  Even worse!

• 30:35Adam Sosnick?

  Oh my god. Here's, like, can I just make a very simple analogy? Tear it apart.

• 30:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Get to it.

• 30:40Adam Sosnick?

  Iran is a cancer on the world. The Islamic regime of Iran is a cancer on the world.

• 30:45Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree.

• 30:46Adam Sosnick?

  How do you negotiate with cancer? Let me give you an example. You know the story with my ex-girlfriend?

• 30:49Speaker 03

  Well, you don't kill the negotiator. You don't do that.

• 30:52Adam Sosnick?

  You don't know what you're doing right now.

• 30:54Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 30:54Adam Sosnick?

  Hear me out. You're asking, "Why'd we do it? We stopped, we came back?" Cancer can come back.

• 30:59Speaker 03

  I know.

• 31:00Adam Sosnick?

  My ex-girlfriend got cancer, leukemia. Oh my god, this is crazy. What are we gonna do? She's young, she's healthy, she's beautiful. Oh my god, what are we gonna do? Chemo, are we not? Are we gonna do holistic? What are we gonna do? Finally, the doctor said this. "You have to do chemo." "The only way to live and survive is to do chemo." Here's one thing you need to know. The chemo could, the cancer could come back. But that's something we'll deal with at the time. What's my point? The Islamic regime of Iran is a cancer on the world.

• 31:29Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree.

• 31:31Adam Sosnick?

  You don't defeat cancer by being like, "Hey, can we be friends? Can we negotiate? Can you please be nice?" It's coming to kill you. Whether it's killing you today, or killing you next week, or killing you next year, it's going to kill you.

• 31:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, but what about the body, the cancers, and you don't just kill, like, what about the person? The people, Adam. You can't just go in because the mission wasn't what they said that the mission was gonna be. It's confusing.

• 31:55Adam Sosnick?

  What you're doing is negotiating how to handle cancer. You have to eliminate it. That's it. There's no further conversation, other than we have to remove the cancer.

• 32:05Speaker 07

  But Adam, you can't, you can't abandon all ethics at the argument of we have to destroy this thing. You become your enemy.

• 32:12Adam Sosnick?

  Ethics, these people have no ethics.

• 32:13Speaker 07

  I understand that.

• 32:14Adam Sosnick?

  They're trying to kill you.

• 32:15Speaker 07

  But they're still, they're still, so I understand both sides of this argument. Sometimes there's not a happy.

• 32:18Adam Sosnick?

  We're not killing their people. They're killing their people.

• 32:21Speaker 07

  Let him finish. Well, I, I just, I believe that sometimes there isn't a happy ending, right? So, and I understand that argument, that there's a terrible situation. You're trying to find a solution to it. Neither solution is great. That's the situation we're in with Iran. It's hard for people to accept that reality. But the, the end reality here also is you cannot come into a situation appealing to the American public. It's just a, a reality of politics. And wars, despite what people believe, do need political backing. You do need your population to be behind you. And you can't come into a war expressing certain things, like you're going to take care of the Iranian people, that you're not going to allow hangings, that you're going to do these things, and then leave them abandoned. It's very much, by the way, akin to what we saw in Afghanistan with Biden leaving. And then, you know, seeing the massive tragedy that happened there.

• 33:06Speaker 07

  You just can't do those kind of things, even if you can get away with it.

• 33:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Elon, let me ask you this. I asked this question yesterday with Richard Werner and, and Luke Orman. Is, i- is, is Trump in a position right now where there's no way he can win? Cause if he gets out, you know, hey, Iran won. And guess how Iran's going to do in the public eye? They're always going to say, well, we know Iran won, underestimated Iran won, Iran won, Iran won, Iran won. And that guy, the foreign minister, the guy that we always see on TV, Agarshi, Agarshi Rob, Abbas, he's going to be a hero. Okay, so that's one. Number two, you pursue it, you finish it. You think it's going to be done in a few weeks?

• 33:48Speaker 07

  No.

• 33:48Patrick Bet-David?

  So then that's going to be a long war. So what is win for him?

• 33:52Speaker 07

  So he's stuck in a, a rock and a hard place, even just with oil prices.

• 33:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think there's winning for him, to be honest with you.

• 33:56Speaker 07

  What I will, well, what I'll answer is sometimes it's okay to be hated today, to, to realize down the path you were right.

• 34:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree.

• 34:03Speaker 07

  And I think that's his situation.

• 34:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think he has the? Do you think he has the patience to be able to do that, knowing the amount of pressure he has with World Cup and midterms around the corner?

• 34:12Tom Ellsworth?

  I think Trump is the kind of guy who will not just back out, just due to his ego alone.

• 34:19Patrick Bet-David?

  So now, if he leaves today, if he leaves today, and Iran goes back to what they're doing, okay? Iran is always gonna say, "We defeated Trump."

• 34:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Mm-hmm.

• 34:33Patrick Bet-David?

  They're gonna say that forever.

• 34:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 34:36Patrick Bet-David?

  "We defeated Trump," and there's nothing you can say about it. He's not gonna be okay with that. Number two, Americans, if he continues, if the gas prices continue this way till April 15th.

• 34:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 34:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And we had Lou Gorman and Richard Warner on, if this continues this way, now you have a global recession take place. Now this becomes COVID 2.0?

• 34:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Mm-hmm.

• 34:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, in its own way? Now, you know, Richard, who was the godfather of quantitative easing, comes out and says, "Don't be surprised if there's talks of quantitative easing in the next few months." So imagine now the government comes out and says, "We gotta bail ourselves out for this war." Hexet asks for $200 billion. They do quantitative easing, and they take out a trillion, trillion and a half, and that's gonna be, you know, going buying bad debt from banks and trying to get that money to get back into the marketplace so they can manipulate the market to be okay again. Where is the win here? Where's the win, Tom? Where do you see the win here?

• 35:32Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think there is, and I think people have to look back at history and understand what happened here, because Bill Clinton screwed up. He screwed up on North Korea in 1994. There's a very, very large body of work that was written about this called "The Seoul Hostage Problem." Seoul, South Korea, was held hostage because North Korea had such a stockpile of conventional weapons that they threatened to rain them down on Seoul if we attacked, I think it was called the Yongbyon, Yongbyon, something like that, a reactor. And Clinton was told by the military, "If we don't hit, and we don't do something here, North Korea becomes a nuclear power, and it's run by a crazy man. You can't do this."

• 36:17Tom Ellsworth?

  He gets what he has in common. He doesn't care about his own people. He'll let them starve to death, he'll torture them. Gee, sounds like the IRGC. And so, Bill Clinton backed off in 1994, and we ended up with a nuclear North Korea. That's what happened. Japan was pissed about it. They knew there was gonna be issues because they saw themselves as the second victim.

• 36:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 36:40Tom Ellsworth?

  They said, "It's not just gonna be South Korea if they get some nukes. It's now gonna be us."

• 36:44Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 36:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Because we're... They referred to themselves, Japan called themselves "the Western target" because they're seen as a Western country. He said, "Listen, they're gonna hit us because when they hit us, it's like hitting the US economy because of all the trade with Japan."

• 36:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Right. So what North Korea... It's a point you're making, Tom. I don't want you to get off the point. North Korea is to Japan what Iran is to Israel.

• 37:06Tom Ellsworth?

  That's right.

• 37:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that a fair assessment?

• 37:07Tom Ellsworth?

  That's right. And Iran is dropping conventional weapons on Qatar. Why are they dropping them on their Arab brethren? No, they're not. They're dropping them on people who are half-friends or friends with the USA.

• 37:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 37:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Trying to get those friends to speak up and say, "Trump, make him stop. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop what you're doing." That's what they're doing. They stockpiled the drones and the conventional to give them the shield of deterrence so they could finish their nuclear ambitions. And it goes... Now it goes to like this. You know, I'm... And, you know, comments are gonna hit me about AIPAC and everything like this. I am not on that page and not on that conspiracy page at all with me, at all. But I will tell you this. Give every weapon imaginable to Iran, Israel's gone in a week. Give every weapon imaginable to Israel, nothing happens. Take every weapon away from Israel, Israel's gone in a week. So you just play

• 38:02Tom Ellsworth?

  the chess game out in the Middle East and see what the outcome is here.

• 38:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 38:05Tom Ellsworth?

  And what they're trying to do. I hate this war. I hate what's happening. I hate the loss of life. But we need to look back. And the reason we have a crazy man with nukes in North Korea is because the Clinton administration, led by Bill, he's gotta own it, and the people around him chickened out.

• 38:22Patrick Bet-David?

  So, this is where I go though, Tom. And this is... The sequencing of what you said and what you said and the question I ask leads me to this. Sometimes you know what you have to do as a leader. Sometimes you sit there as a leader. You look at everybody. And you have this camp that doesn't agree with this decision. And you have this camp that doesn't agree with that decision. And this is the worst place to be as a leader. Worst place to be as a leader. You have to sit there and you know what need to do? Turn off the phone, Tom, okay? Turn off the computer. Turn off everybody. Get the hell away from everybody. And ask yourself, you were selected, you were elected to be the president. With all the information you have right now, what do you think is the right thing to do?

• 39:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Not what the right thing is to do politically to win midterms. Not what the right thing to do is financially that's gonna benefit your pockets. What is the right thing for you to do long term as a president? There's only one person that has the answer to this question. And it's him. Yeah. He's in such a cornered place as a leader. With the amount of burden he's carrying today. And he knows what Clintons did. With Korea, North Korea. He knows the history of what other people did under this. He knows that Obama gave him a, you know, how many pallets of cash that none of it went to what they said they were going to do. He knows the reason why Iran became so powerful is because of Obama. He knows that.

• 39:49Patrick Bet-David?

  He knows that this whole thing that why Iran is able to stand tall and, you know, push people around is because Obama funded this war indirectly from whatever the year was, 08. Yeah, 1.7 billion. 1.7 billion dollars. He funded what Obama. Exactly. He knows all of this stuff. He knows it. He knows all of it. So guess what? What do you want to do? Here's the risk. Make the decision. Move forward. This is not the place, like you know Humberto, we're talking and, and what was it? Hey, Rob, bad news, uh, uh, uh, bad news is what? In the afternoon, good news in the morning? You know, the whole thing with the good news, bad news? Humberto, you want to text me that conversation that we were having? Did I say it correctly? Uh, on the, on the formatting, right? Okay. So guess what?

• 40:34Patrick Bet-David?

  He can't be the PR guy right now.

• 40:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't think Apprentice Trump right now. Yeah. You can't think Twitter Trump right now. You have to think General Commander in Chief Trump right now. That's how you have to think. And then based on that, go ahead. By the way, whatever you choose to do, whatever Trump chooses to do, guess what's gonna happen? He'll be criticized? Whatever, there is nothing he can do right here by the media and the tensions being high. However, once it's solved and we move on, history books will write about it. Yeah. And by the time he gets credit for this, or not, it'll be 20 years from now, he won't be around to be able to read it. Yeah. Do you understand what I just said? A hundred.

• 41:18Patrick Bet-David?

  When he gets credit for the decision he makes today, it'll be 2046 and he'll probably not be alive.

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• 42:39Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, there's two things that I'll just back that up 100% with Pat. Is Harry Truman said, at the height of crisis, it was a longer statement he made, but the quote that gets, that gets repeated by Harry Truman is some questions cannot be answered, but they can be decided. And I was elected to decide them.

• 42:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I, I, I just wanna.

• 43:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Encourage him to get back and say, out of all the, you know, he's a what do you think, what do you think, what do you think guy? This is not the what do you think time. This is a time, what do you think?

• 43:10Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 43:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Do it.

• 43:11Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 43:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Go do it.

• 43:12Speaker 07

  Can I, can I just touch on Tom's point, sorry, really quick about a nuclear Iran, how it's different than a nuclear, uh?

• 43:17Patrick Bet-David?

  North Korea.

• 43:18Speaker 07

  It's fundamentally different. Number one, you're looking at a nuclear Iran will lead to a nuclear Saudi Arabia. All the countries in the region will want to have nuclear power. And then you have a bunch of-

• 43:26Tom Ellsworth?

  They feel they have to.

• 43:27Speaker 07

  They will have to for self-preservation, but this points to the next big issue, which is different than North Korea, which is that these people don't have a sense of self-preservation. So, it's, it's a different ideology. I try and, and make people understand this as much as possible. People see a nuclear Iran, you see guys out there saying, no, no, they have incentive to not use their nukes. Actually, it's the opposite. According to their ideology, they have incentive to use their nukes. So, you can't just look at it and say, it's comparable to North Korea, because North Korea does have a sense of self-preservation, at the least, and that's the largest deciding factor in how dangerous you are, when you have a world-ending weapon. So, I just think that's something that people have to really-

• 44:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Ultimately, what you're saying is you can't trust- You're using conventional weapons to create this, this, this deterrence, to give you a blanket and a, and a cloud, so you can finish your nuclear ambitions.

• 44:15Speaker 07

  Hundred percent, yeah.

• 44:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, once those ambitions are done, yeah, the, the character of the two, um, bad actors is different.

• 44:23Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 44:23Tom Ellsworth?

  But it was, it's the same problem going in.

• 44:25Speaker 07

  A hundred percent, agree with you, yeah.

• 44:27Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, there's an ideology problem. They're jihadists. But, just like in real estate, location, location, location. No, Korea is in the other end of the world. Nobody was worried about North Korea. Iran is in the middle of the world. And, uh, Diego Garcia, I went to high school with Diego Garcia. Apparently, that's a base that we share with the UK.

• 44:48Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 44:50Adam Sosnick?

  Did they not shoot a missile that way that can hit it? Is it not also in, in the range of all of Europe? So, to me, it's, it's a hostage situation. They have the Middle East and they have the world hostage. And we're saying, well, what do we want to do with the, with the, with the terrorists? Do we, do we? What do we want to do with these people? And, and I just want to reframe one thing. I think we're winning. Like, we're having a conversation of like, well, there's no win situation. We're gonna lose this. Show me how we're losing. Respect to the fallen soldiers. I mean, God bless.

• 45:22Patrick Bet-David?

  There's two different victories.

• 45:23Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, but we're winning right now.

• 45:25Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a victory.

• 45:25Adam Sosnick?

  There's no way Iran can say that they're winning.

• 45:27Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a victory and there's a PR victory. PR, he's losing. And he is so concerned sometimes about PR that it gets him to make the decision. So he is, he's a guy that pays attention to PR a lot. A lot. So, PR is, is, is losing. This is, I've never seen, this is, this is not at the levels of, you know, there's two things right now that the way they're losing PR. It's this and Epstein. Okay, those two. But PR wise, they're losing. They could be winning behind closed doors. But on the PR side, there's not a winning with this war here. Not short term, in my opinion.

• 46:04Adam Sosnick?

  Not short term, but long term. It's an investment. So, if you ever look at, do you have a 401K? It's a weird analogy when I use it. Your 401K, you can't touch for 40 years. You're not gonna see the benefit of it. But I look at my 401K that I started when I was dead.

• 46:20Patrick Bet-David?

  This is actually, you know what's a better analogy, Adam? Is the business you and I are in. Which is what?

• 46:25Adam Sosnick?

  The life settlements insurance business.

• 46:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Life insurance business. This is not even 401K.

• 46:28Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 46:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Because you know, who does life insurance defend?

• 46:30Adam Sosnick?

  The future generation.

• 46:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Does it, is, is life insurance for you?

• 46:33Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 46:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I think this is life insurance for American people, long term, but you never get credit for it until you're dead.

• 46:38Adam Sosnick?

  And you're never gonna see it short term.

• 46:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I know, I understand.

• 46:40Adam Sosnick?

  That's what I'm getting.

• 46:41Patrick Bet-David?

  So what, but what I'm saying is, everything was, and I'm gonna move on. I don't wanna stay on this topic. I wanna move on to the next story. We got a lot of good stories to get through. What I'm saying is, he needs to just go make the decision and stick to it.

• 46:54Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 46:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And make your adjustments, trust your instinct. You're, you're gonna have a lot of noise that's coming your way. You're not gonna win the PR war here. You're not. You're not gonna win the PR war here. You have access to information, make the decision, move forward, and let the criticism drop. And the way this world works, stories go. They come and go.

• 47:12Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 47:13Patrick Bet-David?

  They come and go. They come and go, and then story cycle will change to the next one. Let me get to the next story here that I got. Pam Bondi, Trump fires man Pam Bondi yesterday. Lots of stories come out.

• 47:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, a lot of stories. So you got Kristi Noem is gone. Some say because of balloons, but whatever. Kristi Noem is gone. Pam Bondi is gone. The announcement is made all over the place. And there's a lot of stories that are coming out with this Pam Bondi firing. They're the White House, Rob, first play the clip on, let's play, read this one here. Pam Bondi is a great American patriot and true lawyer friend, who faithfully serves Attorney General over the past year. Pam did a tremendous job overseeing a massive crackdown in crime across this country with murders plummeting to their lowest since 1900. We love Pam and she would be transiting to a much needed and important new job in the private sector to be announced at a later date. And our Deputy Attorney General and a very talented, respected legal mind, Todd Blanch will step in to serve as the Acting

• 48:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Attorney General. While that's being announced, Rob, there is stories that came out, Todd Blanch was asked about the rumors with Eric Swalwell. I think you have that clip, Rob. Go for it. Here's Jesse asking Todd Blanch to question about was the reasoning for this having to do with her relationship with Eric Swalwell. Go for it.

• 48:29Speaker 09

  Pam Bondi too, but she didn't, she didn't give Swalwell a heads up on the Fang Fang files, did she?

• 48:34Speaker 10

  I would not believe that for a second. Absolutely, positively not.

• 48:39Speaker 09

  Okay.

• 48:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what do you think?

• 48:41Tom Ellsworth?

  So there's a lot of rumors that float out. Whenever there's a change in administration, here you go. It's, you know, it's the parlor game of what really happened, what was really said, what was, you know, behind it all. You know, I think the fact that that's being brought up, maybe there's some, I only give that probably about a 20% credence. If she did that, that would be such a lapse of judgment because it was so high stakes at that time. It's like three things can happen and two of them are bad. One is nobody finds out about it. Second, Swalwell or somebody talks about it. And third, somebody on her team talks about it. It's like, I just... I see the rumors, I see that because everybody wants a reason, Pat, right? Everybody wants, okay, what's the real reason here?

• 49:25Tom Ellsworth?

  She's go- and by the way, she's going to do a job in the private sector. Okay, you know- What do you think happened? What do you think happened? Honestly, I like Pam, but I'll tell you objectively, if I was her manager sitting down there, I said, "Pam, you got caught talking in a restaurant about the Epstein files, then you had to do this, this press conference at the front of the White House, and then we had leaks and things going on. This project just hasn't been handled very good at all." I mean, you and I both run businesses, and I've been able to sit with you and be a part of your businesses, and I've seen where we have to talk with good people about this. Say, "You just didn't do a good job there. You just didn't get it done, I gotta make a change." It doesn't mean you hate the person at all.

• 50:10Tom Ellsworth?

  It doesn't mean you don't think they'll thrive in some other job, and you may help them get that other job. But I think that the Epstein files and what was going on there, and just kind of the way that was handled, I don't think it was a passing grade, and they made a change.

• 50:22Speaker 07

  Yeah, I think Tom nailed it. I think, you said it previously, the only thing that can really hurt Trump, outside of Iran and the economy arguably, is the Epstein files. I think it's one of the few things that's nonpartisan. I think every American citizen wants transparency, wants it released, and most politicians are fighting against that, and Trump came in very strongly on that premise, that he's gonna get the information out, and we haven't seen it happen, and it needs morale now.

• 50:46Speaker 03

  Well, I think her getting fired, besides everybody else, Kristi Noem, the whole crew, this one was the most one that was overdue, okay? She's had a year and two months to bring actual justice, instead, we just got TV appearances, her yelling in front of Congress, and empty promises. Think about this, Tommy. Under Merrick Garland, the Attorney General, under Biden, in less than a year, the Department of Justice appointed Jack Smith, built 44 federal cases against Trump, two major cases, expanded January 6 prosecutions, prosecuted 1,500 people that were just standing there. Grandmothers that were there with a flag were put in prison, okay? They didn't love it or hate it, that proved that an actual Attorney General that cares about that, that cares but does what they're supposed to be doing in that sense-

• 51:30Speaker 03

  At scale and force, that's what they want to do. So the question becomes if he could do it, why did Bondi spent so much time promising stuff to people like me, I'm the base, I'm the Trump race has been down with him since 2016, no accountability that we've, we've, I voted for, no Fauci, no Russia gate, no justice to the censorship machine about the government, big tech, no accountability for Mar-a-Lago, the Catholic targeting memo, the lawfare crowd, or the weaponization of the DOJ and the FBI going to Twitter, paying the money, suppressing the Hunter Biden story. And then the biggest thing like you guys said, is Epstein. That right there, and he said it, he said it first, was the biggest, like, shot in the, like, what the hell, self-inflicted gunshot wound.

• 52:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Biggest fumble.

• 52:13Speaker 03

  The biggest fumble. You go on camera and you say, you have, what'd she say, tens of thousands of videos involving kids. And this is the most important of this, she didn't know she was being recorded, so that's when you're saying the truth.

• 52:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 52:26Speaker 03

  She's speaking the truth, and then when it leaked because of James O'Keefe, she had to come out and say that, okay? Instead, you know what we got, Elon? We got binders, that was the most bothersome thing, binders, social media, content creator.

• 52:39Tom Ellsworth?

  May I, and it's who received those binders? Those binders weren't given out to Department of Justice, or given out to congressmen heading up, maybe committees, or they were gonna have hearings. They were given to, who got them? Libs of TikTok, DC Draino.

• 52:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, Jack.

• 52:55Speaker 03

  Jeff Solbeck.

• 52:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep. Uh, Scott Pressler, right?

• 52:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:59Tom Ellsworth?

  They give out to influencers?

• 53:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:01Speaker 07

  Yeah, we live in the Twilight Zone.

• 53:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Why not line up, say, hey, here's the people that are gonna run the hearings, and here they go.

• 53:07Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a good fire. I actually support this firing. I think it's the right move. And by the way, let me tell you, I said this yesterday on Twitter, is, you know, politics is a very, very nasty game, guy. It's not for everybody.

• 53:22Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 53:23Patrick Bet-David?

  One day you're a rock star, next day you're a laughingstock, and it's, but it's attractive, because it's a contact sport. So people want to get into it. But guess what? This is not gonna be a good week for Pam Bondi. She's gotta kind of go through it and move on to the next phase. And, look, for the rest of her family's life, her grandkids or her family is gonna say what? My, my, you know, Pam Bondi was the former Attorney General. Go ahead. That's history books. That's permanently cemented. So, good for you. You did your part. You went all the way to the top. Now, go do whatever you're gonna be doing next. But, the next move. Now, I wonder what Todd Blanch is gonna be doing now. So, for example, Todd Blanch comes in. So, I have a meeting with him. So, okay, Todd, how do we handle? Now, you got it. What's your new plan for Epstein? What are we gonna do it? Because this is an opportunity for Todd Blanch to do what?

• 54:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Help Pam Bondi save face and come up with a better approach with Epstein. Okay? So, if he comes out and he says, hey, he's defending Pam Bondi, but he also comes out and aggressively moves quickly with certain topics, people might be like, oh, wow. So, it was Pam Bondi. Todd Blanch is moving more assertively. It helps the President. This could be a good move. So, I don't know what's gonna happen with Todd Blanch. I hope he doesn't become a vanilla AG, where you come in and you don't really do anything. You just kinda stay quiet and go under the, you know, radar? And nothing really happens. Rob, is this a clip as well you have from last night?

• 54:43Speaker 11

  So, I have two. This is Todd Blanch talking about what the Department of Justice is currently focusing on. And then, I have a separate clip where he's asked if Pam Bondi was fired because of the Epstein mishandling.

• 54:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's listen to both. Go for it.

• 54:54Speaker 11

  Okay.

• 54:54Speaker 10

  I will tell you this. You are right. This is an important and long overdue objective. Just today in Los Angeles, we had a take down. Eight individuals were arrested for allegedly bilking over $50 million of intended loss from our taxpayer monies. And yes, this includes leadership in state governments. Our investigations do. Because guess what? They are, in many ways, the actual conduit. They're letting it happen by not doing anything to stop these individuals stealing from the American people. And so, you're gonna see this Department of Justice pour all of our heart and soul into the frog.

• 55:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it right there. Let's go to the next one, Rob. Let's go to the next one. The Epstein one. Go for it.

• 55:35Speaker 09

  We did. Now, the Epstein files. You'd agree, not handled well?

• 55:41Speaker 10

  First of all, I have never heard President Trump say that the Attorney General was, that anything that happened to her had anything to do with the Epstein files. And so, look, the Epstein files has been a saga that's lasted for the entire, for the past year. And what happened when the President signed the Transparency Act is that Department of Justice has now released all the files with respect to the Epstein saga. And the Attorney General, Bondi, and I appeared in front of Congress voluntarily a couple of weeks ago to answer any questions they had. We have made every single Congressman, Senator, available to come and see any document, redacted, unredacted, that they want. And so, I think that, to the extent that the Epstein files was a part of the past year of this Justice Department, it will, should not be a part of anything going forward.

• 56:25Speaker 03

  Okay, well, and I have one more clip I sent Rob about, if he's going to be vanilla or how he's going to be, I just sent it to Rob. Pat, you guys have to understand, he's, out of all people, that's Trump's old lawyer. He's the one that went to interview Ghislaine Maxwell, and then she got moved to a more pushy, poshy prison cell, or whatever you want to call it. By the way, she came in after Acosta, Alex Acosta, in Florida. Her connection to Epstein is so intertwined, she wasn't there for him, but after he was gone, she came in. They didn't pursue anything for Epstein. If you want to know, Pat, his attitude towards it, look at the question they asked, and look at his response, and you guys tell me what you think he's going to be pursuing after this. Go ahead. I don't have one thing to say.

• 57:08Speaker 12

  You said this is the end of the Epstein, of your review of the Epstein files. So, just to clarify, are, is the public going to learn the identities of the men who abused the girls with the information that you're releasing? And if not, why not? And then, I have a quick follow-up.

• 57:25Speaker 10

  You just baked in an assumption into your question that I have never said, and I don't know to be true, is the public going to learn about men that abuse these girls? Like, what does that mean?

• 57:36Speaker 03

  What do you mean? What does it mean?

• 57:38Speaker 12

  Well, I mean... They're the men who abused the young women through Epstein's.

• 57:46Speaker 10

  Look, we said in July, and it remains as true today as it was in July. If we had information, we, meaning the Department of Justice, about men who abused women, we would prosecute them, right? We talked about the work that we're doing, that's why I said that. There's, I said this earlier.

• 58:05Speaker 03

  He's so gaslit because they're all connected. And I want to say this, Pat, FYI, Pam Bondi is supposed to go in front of the House Oversight Committee on April 14th because of Epstein files. Number one. Number two, Thomas Massey came out and he congratulated Todd Blanch and he said, now, this was yesterday, "You have 30 days to release the rest of the files." So that's a lot because there's over 3 million left. He goes, "I'm sorry, you have 30 days to release files before becoming criminally liable for failure to comply with the Epstein Files Transparency Act." We're being gaslit, bro.

• 58:37Speaker 07

  You know what's interesting? You said earlier today you feel like something spiritual is going on in society. This, to me, is the ultimate, you want to look at the most evil, disturbing thing, and it's done by people of all the power, all the control. We're sitting here, we feel helpless, and if you're going to attack anything, destroy anything, you would destroy God's most beautiful creation, children. And it's, it's just, I don't know, I can't, I get very emotional. That's what I want. Makes me very upset. I don't know, I really, it's one of the things that drives me crazy.

• 59:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, by the way, you can replace Pam Bondi, Todd, 50 different times. The American people are not going away with Epstein. I really hope not. You can replace anybody you want. It's not going away. Adam?

• 59:21Adam Sosnick?

  I don't want to go Epstein, I just, I want to stay here on Trump. Look, I figured out kind of how Trump operates. Everyone kind of speculates how Trump operates. You tell me if you agree or disagree with this. You've heard of the hot crazy matrix? Never heard of that? Yeah, yeah. The crazy matrix? The hotter the girl. The hotter the girl, the crazier she is. You gotta figure out, is she crazy? Is she not? Is she hot? Then you kind of figure out what there goes from there. Okay. You've heard of the Navy SEAL trust versus skill matrix? The Navy SEAL want people to trust. They obviously want high skilled. But trust is more important than skilled. Yep. What's the Trump matrix? In my opinion, it's loyalty and competence. The number one thing is, are you with me or against me? If you're not loyal, that's it.

• 1:00:05Adam Sosnick?

  There's no place in this administration for you. But are you competent? Are you actually good at your job? Do you have skill? Are you talented? Are you gonna help me win? We're gonna win so big. So to me, everyone is judged on this matrix. Are you loyal or disloyal? Are you basically screwing things up or doing a good job? And that's how Trump operates. To me, loyalty for Trump will get you in the door, but competence will keep you in the house. Just like in a dating situation, to use the hot crazy matrix. Beauty will keep you in the door and get you in the door. Inner beauty and being a good person will keep you in the house. So to me, Trump is looking at everybody. J.D. Vance, Rubio, RFK, Bondi. Kristi Noem goes, are they loyal? Are they with me? And are they doing a good job?

• 1:00:49Adam Sosnick?

  And to me, if you want to question Pam Bondi, do you think Pam Bondi was loyal? I think she was pretty damn loyal. I think her flaw was competence. J.D. Vance, in another capacity, is he loyal? Maybe. Maybe there's some questions. I don't know. Is he competent? Yeah. It seems so. Yeah. That's how you judge Trump.

• 1:01:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Remember his first pick? His first pick was Matt Gaetz.

• 1:01:12Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:13Tom Ellsworth?

  And the Senate told that there were 64 senators that said, "We will never vote for Matt Gaetz." So it was impossible confirmation.

• 1:01:21Adam Sosnick?

  Attorney General, you're talking about.

• 1:01:22Tom Ellsworth?

  For AG. Right. He was the one. Trump wanted a pit bull. He wanted a pit bull to go out and prosecute the people that had illegally prosecuted him and to go right those wrongs. Those were real things. You look at all the things that he went through. And I'm not a cheerleader for him. Forget his name is Trump. Just go down the list and say, "A sitting president, and then a citizen after he left office, was subjected to all of this and how much of it turned out to be wrong."

• 1:01:48Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Why wouldn't you want it?

• 1:01:49Adam Sosnick?

  You're saying he wanted a pit bull, but he got a chihuahua on Pam Bondi?

• 1:01:53Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I didn't say that. You just said that.

• 1:01:55Adam Sosnick?

  I did.

• 1:01:55Tom Ellsworth?

  I would never characterize it that way.

• 1:01:57Patrick Bet-David?

  What I would say is the following. There is... There's difference between competency. I would add one more thing to it.

• 1:02:05Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 1:02:05Patrick Bet-David?

  To that. Trust competency and I would add one other one. It's media prepared. And she, she failed in the media side. She did. When she went into hearing, that was not good. When she didn't realize, when you're in the market and you have to always assume cameras are on you and you know, people are asking a question at a coffee shop. Media trained, you have to know, you, you have to be bulletproof with secret sauce. You know, I always explain the circles. You got people that are in different circles and you have the smaller circle where you open up and talk about anything. And you'll always test the circle by dropping stuff that nobody else will notice if it leaks on and like, ah, that guy's, I can't trust that guy. And going out. So you have to make sure who you trust. The loyalty part is there, but it's also not bragging about the intel that you have.

• 1:02:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Some people want to brag about the intel that they have. Some people want to say, let me tell you how important I am. No, it's not about you. So you know, it's not easy. There's a, there's a mob element to it when you're hiring certain people. Uh, on your team. And by the way, you know what else you do? You always, sometimes also you bring people on your team that you intentionally use them and they don't even know it as the person. To leak information.

• 1:03:12Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:12Patrick Bet-David?

  They don't even know why they got hired. Like, why does he have me in my, because you don't realize, I intentionally, when I want the market to know what's really going on. I'll tell you and I'll tell you not to tell anybody. You're telling that night. So I know how to use you.

• 1:03:24Adam Sosnick?

  You ready for the next thing that they're going to say about Trump? By the way, I agree with you on the media savviness. Uh, that's obviously a major component. The next attack line on Trump is that he hates women. Look at him. He fires Kristi Noem.

• 1:03:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think that's gonna work. I don't think that's gonna work.

• 1:03:37Adam Sosnick?

  It's not gonna work. You don't think that the media is gonna attack Trump for hating women?

• 1:03:40Patrick Bet-David?

  They already are. They already are.

• 1:03:41Tom Ellsworth?

  The media is capable of everything, but I think that's a.

• 1:03:43Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, now we're giving the media the benefit of the doubt of what they're gonna do with Trump. Oh, okay. Got it.

• 1:03:48Patrick Bet-David?

  It's, doesn't have credibility because of all the stuff they tried with him, that's gonna do nothing. Let me get to the next one. You know who is winning? You know who is winning with all this stuff that's going on quietly? DeSantis. Really? Yeah, I tell you why. I tell you why, because DeSantis, you know, his flaw is marketing. His flaw is, you know, Boots? Thinks very highly of himself. His flaw is lack of, uh, uh, being, uh, uh, what's the word, you know? Loyal? Uh, not, not loyal. No, not loyal. I would say lack of, uh, Promoting. He, he, he, he thinks very highly of himself. And he doesn't fully understand the power structures. At least he didn't four or five years ago. But let me tell you something.

• 1:04:31Patrick Bet-David?

  The guy, if he believes in something, he's gonna go out there and do stuff that the other guys simply don't have the brass to do it. That's why he's, in my opinion, the greatest governor we have in America is Governor DeSantis. I agree. Hands down. Take all the marketing stuff away. This is a guy I hired 10 out of 10 times. You sure it's not JB Pritzker or?

• 1:04:47Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Kathy Hochul? So Governor DeSantis signs Florida's version of the SAVE Act. Rob, if you wanna play this clip, Florida's version of the SAVE Act, here's Governor DeSantis. Go for it.

• 1:04:59Speaker 13

  Our constitution in the state of Florida says only American citizens are allowed to vote in our elections. And so we need to make sure that that is the law.

• 1:05:12Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. Okay, so this protects and expands integrity in our voter registration process. Our constitution in the state of Florida says only American citizens are allowed to vote in our elections, so we need to make sure that is a law. And, you know, this law, most of which won't take effect until the midterm elections, is Florida's version of the federal SAVE Act. Bill President Trump has championed that measure is currently stalled in the US Senate where it lacks 60 votes needed to advance under current rules. Democrats and voting rights advocates warn Florida's law will disenfranchise eligible voters who are lack already access, lack ready access to documents.

• 1:05:49Patrick Bet-David?

  That are needed to vote. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 1:05:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, it's interesting that, um, once again, um, the, the best governor in America is bucking the national trend and he, and he's doing it, um, I think with the right kind of attitude and the right kind of legislation. Remember COVID? Who stood up to it? Texas did, but certainly, certainly DeSantis did and took a lot of heat and he said, "Listen, UV is good. UV kills them." You know, "People should be able to go to the beach. Okay, separate from yourself a little bit, but the beaches will be open. I'm not doing this." So, as quickly as he could, he was countering everything that was going on on COVID and it was like a wave he was fighting. And it turned out, he surfed the wave successfully and that's what's happening here. Um, and then

• 1:06:34Tom Ellsworth?

  all the usual suspects. The people that are against it are the Democrat organizations that are out there that were aiding and abetting what was going on on voter fraud in other parts of this country. And so, "Oh, you're going to disenfranchise African-American voters that don't know how to get ID." There they go again, saying, "Oh, these people don't know how to do it." It's like you're saying a particular voting block and it's insidious and terrible to me, or don't have, don't, are not smart enough to go figure this out. Look, they get documents so they can get a driver's license. It doesn't have a red bar on it that says that, that you're not from around here. They do it so that they can get a, an I-9 so you could show you could go get a job and get W-2 income. Oh, but

• 1:07:17Tom Ellsworth?

  they, they would be very confused if they had to prove this for voting. The usual suspects are speeding, speaking up, but the usual, um, I think, you know, governor with a spine has already spoken and I love what he's doing.

• 1:07:30Speaker 07

  I just think it's a soft bigotry of low expectation, as always, trying to manipulate the public. That's what the left's doing. They're just trying to manipulate the public. There's a great video from years ago where this journalist went out on the street and they started interviewing white liberals of, "Do you think black people can get IDs?" And they're like, "No, they can't." And then they asked black people and they're like, "What are you talking about? Why would I not be able to get an ID?" I don't even know how this is controversial. We have a massive population. You look at Europe, Europe by and large uses verification of citizenship, whether through a national database or identification. And they're supposed to be the more progressive, you know, the more open, and they still do it. And yet here we're saying, no, no, no, let's just, and people have also already have a massive distrust in our institutions.

• 1:08:11Speaker 07

  If you're already in a situation where you have controversy over our institutions, why not just secure them? So the American public feels like their vote matters. I don't see why this is controversial. And again, I just see it as, as the left is racist.

• 1:08:23Speaker 03

  Elon, let me explain something to you. It's so simple. It boggles our mind. Like, we go nuts. This is when you have a party, when you have no leader, when you don't have any power. Bro, I'm still waiting. When I asked Cuomo, like, what are the policies? Or I think it was Stephen A. Like, what do, what does the Democratic Party stand for? And it's always illegals. Remember the Maryland man? Or all this stuff? When, when people get murdered, they don't even talk about in Chicago.

• 1:08:50Speaker 07

  That drives me crazy, Vinny.

• 1:08:51Speaker 03

  But Elon, you and me both, but you know what it is, bro? When you don't have that, you have to protect the, your, your voting base is the illegals that you bring in, that you promised the world. And mind you, some of these people are doing all this fraud and all this billions of dollars that funnels right back into their party. And it's, I was trying to quite like, what are we even talking about? And it's simple. You have to have your voters be on your side. So what better way to be like, hey, showing ideas where everything goes to racism to them. Bro, and he made a great point. What was it? Take one day, take one day vacation. Do we have LGBT all these days? Take one day, all you pregnant women that have got married, or whatever the hell these stories are, go get your ID. Go get, take a day, go get your ID. It's a federal holiday.

• 1:09:34Speaker 03

  Get your butt back to work and let's do the guys. That's the only, that's the only reason that they care about this thing. Don't, people try to make it bigger. Not you. I'm just saying in general.

• 1:09:42Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:09:42Speaker 03

  Get an ID. I have five of them. I have my military. I have my freaking veteran. I have my driver's license. I have my birth certificate. Give me a break.

• 1:09:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I thought the five IDs were so you could vote five times in Georgia.

• 1:09:53Speaker 07

  That's, it might be that. Open County.

• 1:09:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinny and I are going on vacation, man. We're gonna vote 10 times in Georgia. Try to stop us.

• 1:10:00Speaker 07

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:10:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam?

• 1:10:01Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, just once again, the, the future is Florida, you know? And we've all basically give Governor Ron DeSantis accolades, and he deserves every single second of them. There's levels to this game. It's amazing what a governor can do when they have three things. Common sense.

• 1:10:19Adam Sosnick?

  A spine and the ability to tune out the noise from all the haters. Cause you're gonna have noise regardless. And, uh, you know, Trump has all that common sense. The reason that Trump is in the White House right now, cause he had more common sense than Kamala. So the next, the next thing that I want to be, are you telling me that, that DeSantis is such an authoritarian and such a bully? That he only believes that citizens of Florida should be able to vote? It's ridiculous. Gavin Newsom, on the other hand, is basically, what's the famous line that he said? He goes, they're gonna have people at the polls talking about checking people IDs, making sure that they're citizens.

• 1:10:54Patrick Bet-David?

  He's winning.

• 1:10:54Adam Sosnick?

  Isn't that only the citizens supposed to vote?

• 1:10:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:58Adam Sosnick?

  But the, the question is, is this now?

• 1:10:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:00Adam Sosnick?

  DeSantis has the mantle. Who's next? Is it Byron Donalds? Is it Jay Collins?

• 1:11:04Patrick Bet-David?

  He's winning now. He's winning now. He's winning. I like what Pierce Morgan said to Fishback. He said, I'll bet you $10,000 you're not gonna win.

• 1:11:10Adam Sosnick?

  Did he really say that?

• 1:11:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you didn't see that?

• 1:11:12Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 1:11:12Patrick Bet-David?

  He said, I'll bet you $10,000 you're not gonna win.

• 1:11:14Adam Sosnick?

  I'll double that.

• 1:11:15Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you talking about? He says, I'll bet you, he says, what are my odds? What are my odds? And it was, they kept going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. And then eventually he agreed on the $10,000, uh, uh, with, uh, with Fishback on, uh, what's gonna happen there. Now, while you, while you're finding that, how long, I'm not gonna play the whole 254, Rob.

• 1:11:30Speaker 07

  Fishback's at like 2%.

• 1:11:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. No, but listen.

• 1:11:33Adam Sosnick?

  I think he's up to 3%.

• 1:11:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, let me tell you one thing about Fishback. Fishback has the, if, if, if DeSantis had that marketing side of Fishback, cause Fishback has marketing. And you need that crazy marketing shock jock statements to make and.

• 1:11:49Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 1:11:49Patrick Bet-David?

  He's not boring. The part that he has is he's not boring. But, uh, you know, is this the one, Rob?

• 1:11:55Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:11:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, play this.

• 1:11:56Speaker 14

  Let me say this, I'll bet you $10,000 to a charity of your choice, you do not win. Do you accept the bet?

• 1:12:04Speaker 03

  Well, I, I wanna know what the odds are because Polly Market wants to get me 10 to 1.

• 1:12:08Speaker 14

  Man, man-o to man-o.

• 1:12:09Speaker 03

  At what odds? And I get 10,000, you get 10,000?

• 1:12:12Speaker 14

  Flawed man against Mr. Perfect. Let's have a little 10 grand bet to charity on, on camera. On camera.

• 1:12:20Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 1:12:20Speaker 14

  I say you're going to lose. If you are this confident you're gonna win, take the bet.

• 1:12:25Speaker 03

  I'll take the bet if you give me $100,000. That's the 10 to 1 on Polly Market right now. If I win, you give me $100,000 to the.

• 1:12:31Speaker 14

  If you're not confident you could win, I understand it.

• 1:12:33Speaker 03

  The odds are on Polly Market right now.

• 1:12:36Speaker 14

  So you accept the body mark is right, you're gonna get shellacked. You accept it.

• 1:12:41Speaker 15

  I look forward to everyone, including Sophie.

• 1:12:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, eventually he agrees to it, but the part I want you to show, Rob, is the following. Watch what DeSantis does. If DeSantis keeps playing this, he's gonna be a... He just, you know, but the problem he made is he went after Trump and he should have never done it, and he didn't go approach him and ask him, "Why didn't you make the call? Why would I make the call? I'm one and a half million." Anyways, we're past that. Watch how he handles this year. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:13:08Speaker 13

  I appreciate the legislature for passing this, but I will just say to my friends in the Florida House of Representatives...

• 1:13:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you pause it real quick? So this judge released a child rapist while on bail. He raped and tortured and killed a five-year-old girl. And she released him. And this is DeSantis responding to the judge on the right with the dimples. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:13:38Speaker 13

  I don't think what you've done is enough. You have the power and you have sufficient numbers in your chamber to impeach this judge, Tiffany Baker. Until you start holding these judges accountable, they are gonna continue to find ways to benefit the criminal element. This was an outrage. This was such an easy call to make sure that this guy was put behind bars, and this judge refused to do it, knowing the risks. And the result has obviously been a tragedy. So Florida Constitution vests the House of Representatives with the ability to bring an impeachment against a circuit judge with two-thirds majority.

• 1:14:23Speaker 13

  You know, last time I checked, we've got way more than two-thirds of Republicans. Honestly, I think some Democrats would vote to impeach, given what happened in this case.

• 1:14:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Common sense, man. Common sense, spine and tune out the noise. There he goes.

• 1:14:37Speaker 07

  Yeah, you nailed it. I mean, he has a real ability to just cut through everything and in a very simplistic way that every American can understand. Say, "Here's the problem. This is what..."

• 1:14:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I'd like to see him in the mix in 2028. I'd like to see him in there. In 2028, uh, uh, you know, can you imagine if he was D A G and, and, uh, Oh, yeah. Imagine if he was handling Epstein files? That would be a dream come true. I think that would be a very, very different story. Anyways, we can move on to the next story. Next story I want to go to is, uh, the, uh, the, uh, travesty that's happened in Nigeria. Rob, what page is that story on? Uh, uh, I'm trying to see where the story is at. Actually, you know what? I'll go to the story and we'll go to that because it's, it, it kind of goes together. J D Vance claims Representative Ilhan Omar definitely committed immigration fraud by allegedly marrying her brother. Rob, you want to play this clip?

• 1:15:29Speaker 16

  About Ilhan Omar and Tim Walz. Obviously Ilhan Omar, the president and the White House have been out saying that she married her brother, that there is, uh, immigration fraud going on here. Uh, these are deportable, uh, denaturalization offenses. Uh, can you give us an update on that?

• 1:15:44Speaker 17

  Yeah, so we actually think that Ilhan Omar definitely committed immigration fraud against the United States of America. And I, I talked to Steve Miller about this actually recently. We're trying to look at what the remedies are. That's the thing that we're trying to figure out is what are the legal remedies now that we know that she's committed immigration fraud? How do you go after her? How do you investigate her? How do you actually do the thing? How do you build a case necessary to get some, some, some justice for the American people? There's a related issue, Benny, which is she has been at the center of a lot of the worst fraudsters in the Somali community. So do I know that Ilhan Omar was aware that the Quality Leering Center was defrauding the American people?

• 1:16:23Speaker 17

  I'm not certain of it, but we at least need to investigate it because if people can commit wrongdoing without even the fear that they're going to be found out, that, that's a fundamental problem. So I'm worried about the immigration fraud. I'm also worried about what did Ilhan Omar know about what was happening in the Somali community? And why was nobody looking into it until frankly Donald Trump came along?

• 1:16:45Patrick Bet-David?

  So let me tell you why this is important. So her representative respond, this is rich coming from someone who literally said they were willing to create stories to redirect the media. Said Omar's chief of staff, Conor McNutt, this is a ridiculous lie and desperate attempt to distract from the pedophile protection party's unpopular war of choice, increasing gas prices and rapidly dropping polling numbers. The allegations have, uh, dogged the Congresswoman since even before her House campaign in 2018. Omar has two ex-husbands. Ahmet Abis Salan Hirsi and Ahmed Noor Said Elmi. Traditional American names, the latter of whom was first accused at least a decade ago of wetting the future US Congresswoman.

• 1:17:28Patrick Bet-David?

  But Omar had married Hirsi in 2002 ceremony as part of her Islamic faith and applied for state marriage license, but the two weren't legally joined until 2018 January, the Minnesota Star Tribune has reported. The month before that, she dissolved her marriage with Elmi, a UK citizen whom she legally wet in February of 2009 as a part of a ceremony with a Christian minister in Eden Prairie, Minnesota, according to a Hennepin County marriage certificate previously obtained by The Post. Vinnie?

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• 1:19:28Speaker 03

  This goes back to my point that I was talking about with Pam Bondi and the AG and it's like when it comes to Republicans, Pat, they are just build a case. This is why people like me and people like you are losing their freaking minds. The documentation's there, the marriage records, the family records, if this was the other part, bro, can you imagine if this was the other part was in charge? She married her brother for legal, you're done, you're done. It's illegal, you're marrying your brother to get him immigration status. Am I losing my mind? No, well, they make you feel like you're losing your mind. Yeah. That's the trick. Like I'm freaking crazy, Pat. Yeah, yeah. And it doesn't stop there, but there's, this is my opinion, there is no way, there is no way.

• 1:20:12Speaker 03

  Uh, Tim Walz, my opinion, Ilhan Omar, Keith Ellison, the AG of freaking Minnesota, they don't know Bill, dude, and billions, and this is what pisses me off, Tommy. They bring them to Congress to go in front of the Senate. Did you see Keith Ellison's attitude? Did you see him talking? The only way you have, if one of us right now had to go to Congress, you know how proper? And he's sitting there with an attitude, the only way you have that attitude is when you know you're untouchable. When you know they can't do nothing to you. Just like when Peter Strzok and everybody during, um, Russiagate came up and they're like, no, no, yelling, yelling at congressmen and yelling at senators, Tom, because they know they're untouchable. Add on top of all this stuff, bro, nobody gets accountable.

• 1:20:54Speaker 03

  It's so freaking frustrating to me because it's like, dude, what are we, what are we doing? What are we doing? We're gonna build a case, we're gonna send them a letter, we're gonna, Republicans love doing this. We're gonna launch an investigation, really, launch it to where? It's gonna crash right down?

• 1:21:09Tom Ellsworth?

  To the moon.

• 1:21:10Speaker 03

  No, and none of them, Elon, and I know, Tom, you want to say something, it infuriates me. This is why the country is sick of it. Endless investigations, endless claims, endless this, and somehow, nobody on top gets in trouble. Zero. The only arrests, and I'll give it to you, were James Comey indicted. James Comey, Letitia James, and what happened two weeks after? Case dismissed, the judge, somebody messed up, the prosecutors, and nothing. Zero accountability. Go ahead, Tom.

• 1:21:36Tom Ellsworth?

  It doesn't surprise me that Omar is being accused of committing fraud and she's protecting people, or complicit, you know, allegedly, we'll find out soon enough, of people who are committing fraud. The thing that boggles my mind right now is very, very simple. Says, Pat, when all the arguments happen and we're in that meetings about this and that, what is the one thing in business that usually, you know, just causes all the smoke to clear? Numbers. How much did you spend? Did you overspend your budget? We look at it. You did. So don't tell me this or that. Here's the numbers. Sales. You're telling me you had a good month? It's not. You're actually flat to last month?

• 1:22:17Tom Ellsworth?

  And year over year, you're actually down. Numbers clear the air in business always. All we need to do is take the quality luring and find out where the money made the U-turn back to election coffers in Minnesota, because that's what I believe happened. That's what I suspect happened. And where's the FBI? All you need is that. As soon as you have a dollar meant for honest welfare programs, that's fraudulently given to something like the quality luring section, and that dollar went back around to Omar 24, a campaign, that's all you need. And then what they will have to say is, I didn't know it was coming from there.

• 1:23:02Tom Ellsworth?

  And that is weak, but it doesn't surprise me. I want to see, let's stop the talk. Words talk, numbers scream. Let's audit, let's get the investigation going, and let's see where the money went. And then it's all done.

• 1:23:14Adam Sosnick?

  Adam. Look, Minnesota's an S-hole, almost cursed, and she's the main reason for it. It's pretty simple to me. Whether she married her brother, you know, whatever the situation is, or the rice and the bananas, everything they've got going on over there. They've ruined the state of Minnesota. My mom's from Minnesota. I used to go there every summer. I have no interest in Minnesota at this point. Minnesota's a nice, cold place. And now, the people from the warmest place in the world, Somalia, Mogadishu, they're like, yeah, let's go to freezing Minnesota. Why?

• 1:23:44Adam Sosnick?

  The question is why? How do they get there? To me, everything in politics is binary, unfortunately. When's a third-party candidate done anything? Ross Perot? RFK? To me, you're either on the Trump camp, or you're on the Ilhan Omar camp. That's it. And I'm on the Trump camp.

• 1:23:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and by the way, when you're seeing this going on, for some of you guys that are wanting to become better parents, Gavin Newsom's wife, yesterday, gave some parental advice. Before you choose to take on this council by her, Brace for Impact, let us give some commentary. But here's her advice of what to do with your young sons. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:24:19Speaker 19

  I've given our boys dolls, even if they tear the head off. I've given them dolls to learn that care and caregiving is not just an activity that's reserved for women, but that it's also an activity that is a responsibility of men.

• 1:24:36Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a responsibility.

• 1:24:37Speaker 19

  What I've done with both my daughters and my sons is, if I'm reading a book and the protagonist is a male, I just change the he to a she. And it just normalizes, for my sons in particular, it's not even, I don't even just do it for my girls. I do it for my sons because I want them to see that women can be the center of a story. That women matter. That women are interesting.

• 1:25:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow, that's what I do. When I read to my kids about the Kennedy assassination, we're reading bedtime stories, I changed it to she Harvey Oswald. You know, of course I did.

• 1:25:11Patrick Bet-David?

  But let it come. Take some notes, Tom, because she's got more wisdom. Go for it.

• 1:25:15Speaker 19

  Like, in this place in history, maybe, where we're recognizing what it is to ultimately deconstruct all these gender roles and ultimately be human. And that's exciting to me. So, you know, I'll just continue to kind of do my work and try and deconstruct all of these, like, limiting narratives about ultimately what it means to be human.

• 1:25:39Speaker 07

  You know, the left loves the word "deconstruct." If you think about this, like, what are they actually always attacking? They're attacking truth. What is truth? Truth is God. I really believe that all this game of identity politics, of gender ideology, is an attack on basic truths. It's to invert truth so that you can destroy the concept of God, and then you can have... Moral relativism, which essentially leads to nihilism and chaos.

• 1:26:04Adam Sosnick?

  And I've said this Elon, like if you think about, can you honestly give me one, and I'm being honest right now. Tell me one Democrat Congress member, big, big name, that's ever proclaimed their faith of Christ. Have you ever, be honest right now, can you think of one?

• 1:26:19Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:26:20Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you. Zero. They are a godless freaking party, all that identity.

• 1:26:25Patrick Bet-David?

  The new guy, the new guy. Who's the new guy that Rogan likes that he had on? A white guy, new guy, that when I spoke to Scott Galloway, he brought him up, Rob. What's his name?

• 1:26:34Adam Sosnick?

  Pierre Poliev.

• 1:26:35Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, not Pierre Poliev. He's actually, he actually, you know who I'm talking about, Rob? Yeah, that guy right there. What's his name?

• 1:26:41Speaker 07

  James Talarico.

• 1:26:42Patrick Bet-David?

  James Talarico.

• 1:26:43Adam Sosnick?

  He's the crazy guy? This is the guy that thinks God is a woman.

• 1:26:48Speaker 07

  Yeah, he thinks God's a woman.

• 1:26:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, man. Saying to you, the Democratic side, this to them is their Christian candidate.

• 1:26:55Adam Sosnick?

  That's help.

• 1:26:56Patrick Bet-David?

  But as much as, as much as you want to say what you want to say, you just listen to possibly the first, future First Lady of America.

• 1:27:04Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Say whatever you want. You just, on every Calci numbers you look at.

• 1:27:10Speaker 07

  She's up.

• 1:27:11Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the president.

• 1:27:12Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 1:27:13Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's the president's wife. Okay, I'm thinking AOC is gonna have a bigger opportunity than him. But we'll see, we'll see what's gonna happen. Yeah, right there, Gavin Newsom.

• 1:27:22Adam Sosnick?

  It just proves one thing to me. California is not America. Everything that we're seeing being exported from California doesn't align with American values. These people are so far left that in a presidential election, fill in a blank candidate from the right versus a blank candidate from the left. The, the, the American left, the Kamala Harrises, the Gavin Newsoms, they don't represent the average American. If you would have told me three years ago that Trump is gonna win every swing state. And the popular vote and have a complete mandate. After what happened on January 6th, I said, you're, you're crazy. You're absolutely crazy. There's no way Trump's gonna win. And then the Republicans, the Democrats are like, you know what? Hold my beer. Chicks with dicks, men in women's sports. Let's go, let's get crazy.

• 1:28:07Adam Sosnick?

  I feel like I'm taking crazy pills and now my boys are playing with dolls and it's all deconstructed. It's all fine. California is not America and we shouldn't make America California. You know, they say make America great again. Make sure that America is not California.

• 1:28:21Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:28:21Adam Sosnick?

  Come up with a little slogan for that. I'll let the creatives come up with that. California is not America.

• 1:28:25Speaker 07

  The, the problem is the fracture on the right is making, we're distracted. We're no longer looking at the left. We're looking inside the right.

• 1:28:31Adam Sosnick?

  I agree with that.

• 1:28:32Speaker 07

  And that's very scary.

• 1:28:33Adam Sosnick?

  I agree with that. The only challenge is I think the fracture is manufactured.

• 1:28:37Speaker 07

  A hundred percent it's manufactured.

• 1:28:38Adam Sosnick?

  So we're talking about it. It's not real though.

• 1:28:40Speaker 03

  Manufacture fracture. That sounds.

• 1:28:42Adam Sosnick?

  We're gonna manufacture the fracture. We're gonna fracture the manufacturer. That's what I'm talking about.

• 1:28:46Tom Ellsworth?

  I think what you're, you're saying is it's manipulated. It's manipulated.

• 1:28:49Adam Sosnick?

  I'm saying it's manufactured, the fracture.

• 1:28:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Well.

• 1:28:51Adam Sosnick?

  It's only Ross Perot.

• 1:28:53Tom Ellsworth?

  The right's gotta come together.

• 1:28:54Adam Sosnick?

  Say that three times.

• 1:28:55Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, it's interesting about.

• 1:28:56Adam Sosnick?

  Manufacture the fracture.

• 1:28:57Tom Ellsworth?

  To, to your point, Yon, you know, the left does a good job of kind of rounding up the wagons. Uh, when they absolutely screwed, um, uh, Sanders in South Carolina, they wanted to create the momentum behind one candidate. So through the primaries, they're like, you're done. They're, you're not going to get money from the DNC. We're going to undermine this. And all of a sudden he was on the out. It's because they circled the wagons to go forward. And I think that's an example of where they do a better job than the Republicans do of getting together and saying, Pat and I have talked about this, right? Pat, who is the real enemy? And do we all fracture for ego? Do we fracture for personal gain?

• 1:29:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Do we just want to run right now and just, just do it to get our hat in the ring? Get our name out there and then sacrifice the election to other leaderships? People do that all the time. It's happened in Boca for mayor. And so. The Dems do a better job of circling those wagons than the Republicans do. And frankly, I hope, you know, that there's more capable and funded. I hope the fact that Newsom can't get above 19% nationally spooks a lot of people into supporting multiple Democratic candidates.

• 1:30:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me read this to you because you get more reports like this. Mass exodus from LA revealed a shocking new figures. The region recorded largest population drop of any in the nation between July 2024 and July 2025, according to Census Bureau. The data was published, roughly 54,000 residents left the county during, this is the county, not the state, left the county that one-year period. The losses mark a continuation of a continuation of a steady slide of the nation's most populous county. Once home to more than 10 million people in 2020, right now it's at 9.7 million people. Riverside and San Bernardino County together gained more than 21,000 residents over the same period, while the Las Vegas metro area saw an influx of more than 20,000, despite

• 1:30:56Patrick Bet-David?

  the outflow of LA County still or something. Okay, so you're seeing numbers like this on what's going on with them. You're seeing numbers like this with LA, with California. It's not a, it's not a situation where data is benefiting Kim. Meanwhile, he's up there, he gave a talk, I think it was last week. He started getting emotional, started crying, asked the camera to be turned off. I don't know if you guys saw this or not.

• 1:31:17Tom Ellsworth?

  And they didn't.

• 1:31:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and, and did you see this time?

• 1:31:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Him crying, like I was watching him, like, right here, right here, Rob.

• 1:31:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Dyslexia.

• 1:31:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go ahead, Rob.

• 1:31:25Speaker 20

  I've ever been here. ADHD Avenue, I mean, everything about this is, ah, feel like I'm home, you know, dyslexics that are surrounded by, you know, these special folks, particularly the young folks there. So I'm grateful. I'm also weird.

• 1:31:52Tom Ellsworth?

  We know.

• 1:31:54Speaker 20

  Sean, I'm, you know, forgive me, you know, this is embarrassing. You can turn all that off.

• 1:32:01Tom Ellsworth?

  They're not gonna do that.

• 1:32:04Speaker 20

  Just because all the noise, you know, that we just need to turn off.

• 1:32:08Tom Ellsworth?

  He creates.

• 1:32:09Speaker 20

  And this is, this is, this, listen to this. This is it, man.

• 1:32:13Patrick Bet-David?

  This is one of the greatest motivational speeches.

• 1:32:15Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 1:32:15Speaker 20

  Fix all this stuff.

• 1:32:16Speaker 03

  I can't read like any of the people in the back.

• 1:32:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Tony Robbins better watch out.

• 1:32:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Powerful.

• 1:32:19Patrick Bet-David?

  This is coming for you, Tony.

• 1:32:20Speaker 20

  We're all just sitting there yelling.

• 1:32:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Tony, I want you to watch out.

• 1:32:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 1:32:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Awaken the giant within.

• 1:32:26Speaker 03

  Pat, what if he goes like this?

• 1:32:27Tom Ellsworth?

  I have a clause. It's not even a sentence. It's, I have a clause.

• 1:32:31Speaker 03

  What if he goes, guys, you see all those words underneath my podium? I don't know what the hell that means. Just like all of you. You're all dumb. That's him. He doesn't, by the way.

• 1:32:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think he's being authentic?

• 1:32:40Speaker 03

  Absolutely not. He is, you know what I think it is, Pat? He puts a spell, I'm being dead serious, with all the hands and all the, he is amazing at making, like, because people, let's, bro, if you have good hair, good gel, you're a handsome per, and you do, well, people are just like, I don't know what the hell he said, but I'm, there's no other way. With the amount of stuff that he has destroyed California, people will still line up, they'll still stand behind them, they'll still cheer.

• 1:33:06Patrick Bet-David?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:33:07Speaker 03

  And he has a freaking spell on these people, bro. If they, he's, he's amazing at what he does.

• 1:33:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Nina Simone did a song many years ago called, "I Put a Spell on You." Good song. You remember that song? It's a very good song.

• 1:33:18Speaker 03

  That's it.

• 1:33:19Adam Sosnick?

  Well, speaking of music, I remember when LA, California, used to be cool. LA and California is just no longer cool. I don't know anybody that's like, yo, bro, I'm leaving Miami. LA, dog, zero.

• 1:33:31Speaker 03

  My mom.

• 1:33:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So weird.

• 1:33:32Adam Sosnick?

  I know, I know so many people who moved here from LA, from Silicon Valley, and they're like, yo, we're out. Look at all you guys. I remember Tupac, right? Uh, "California love, the living, dying, LA."

• 1:33:46Speaker 03

  I don't get the singing over with.

• 1:33:47Adam Sosnick?

  Even the song, what was the song, the famous, "We love LA."

• 1:33:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:33:51Adam Sosnick?

  There was all this amazing music, all this amazing culture coming out of LA, and now it's, uh, we're weird, we're woke, we're gay, we got chicks, we're dicks, we wanna, uh, have transitions, we wanna deconstruct, we wanna, uh, manufacture the fracture.

• 1:34:08Adam Sosnick?

  California, what happened to you? You're the richest state in the country.

• 1:34:13Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:34:13Adam Sosnick?

  And you're broke with ineptitude.

• 1:34:17Speaker 07

  Tell my mom, Adam, she's sitting on my couch right now.

• 1:34:19Adam Sosnick?

  Your mom's on my couch?

• 1:34:20Speaker 07

  Tell her to move here.

• 1:34:21Tom Ellsworth?

  She's in LA?

• 1:34:22Speaker 07

  Mom, my mom's on my couch right now and she wants to go.

• 1:34:24Adam Sosnick?

  Sweet Lana, we love you, Lana.

• 1:34:24Speaker 07

  Move here. Yeah.

• 1:34:26Adam Sosnick?

  But seriously, you lived in LA how long?

• 1:34:29Speaker 07

  Fifteen years.

• 1:34:29Adam Sosnick?

  How long you lived there?

• 1:34:30Speaker 07

  Seven years.

• 1:34:31Adam Sosnick?

  Seven years?

• 1:34:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Forty-five, my adult life.

• 1:34:33Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 1:34:34Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:34:34Adam Sosnick?

  You were there?

• 1:34:35Speaker 07

  Twenty-six.

• 1:34:35Adam Sosnick?

  Are you trying to say?

• 1:34:36Speaker 07

  It was like the coolest place in the world.

• 1:34:38Adam Sosnick?

  Genuine question, is LA even cool anymore?

• 1:34:40Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think so, yeah.

• 1:34:42Speaker 07

  And it's crazy because the entertainment industry left LA for Atlanta, for New Orleans. Everything I've shot, everything I've shot, maybe one or two shows in LA, the rest in Atlanta, New Orleans, North Carolina.

• 1:34:52Patrick Bet-David?

  And you've done some stuff, you've done stuff with Brad Pitt. You were on Walking Dead?

• 1:34:58Speaker 07

  I was on Walking Dead for on and off for a few seasons. I was in The Big Short briefly, I was supposed to have a bigger part, but we won't get into that.

• 1:35:05Patrick Bet-David?

  The movie The Big Short?

• 1:35:06Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, that's where I met Brad Pitt and then I was on Deepwater Horizon. I have crazy stories from acting, that's, you want to talk about a society that likes to deconstruct and get weird ideas.

• 1:35:16Adam Sosnick?

  Do you think, Vinny, not to let California is ever gonna have a bounce back?

• 1:35:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you what's going on, guys. There is something, I don't know if we have the story here or not, there's conversations about the fact that a couple of Republicans could potentially create some momentum and make it a little bit tougher for California. Tom, you were sharing a number earlier today, the 15% number, you know which one I'm talking about?

• 1:35:35Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, we do.

• 1:35:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe you want to get into it for Californians to have a little bit of hope. Go ahead, Tom.

• 1:35:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's only, statistically speaking, there's only about a 15% chance of it right now, but what happens in California is...

• 1:35:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this a time where says, we know there's a risk ahead, a 15% chance of calamity, it's not a 15% chance of stubbing your toe, it's a 15% chance of losing the governorship, losing the down-ballot races, Tom?

• 1:35:59Adam Sosnick?

  I'm excited for this, I see a lot of highlighted notes over there, Tom, let's do it.

• 1:36:02Tom Ellsworth?

  What it talks about... I put a post out about two weeks ago about the governor's race in Boca Raton, Florida, and this is exactly what happened. Two Republicans stayed in head-to-head with each other, and because it was, you know, not a primary, there's not a primary to say there'll be one Republican, you had three people there, a Democrat and two Republicans, and the Democrat got elected with, um, by just a couple votes with 39% of the vote. So congratulations, Boca Raton, Florida now has a mayor that they didn't, that 61% of the people did not want, because he got 39%, because the other two split the vote. This is coming to California, and what they're worried about, they're worried about too

• 1:36:46Tom Ellsworth?

  many Democrats on the ballot, Pat, that's what they're worried about. And if there's only two Republicans, um, and too many on the ballot, could one of them be like a 39% winner? And that's why they're saying, well, there's only about a 15% chance of, of losing the governorship, but the fact that they're even talking about is telling you what's up. And they're also very, very worried about what has been, regardless of the economy, there has been progressive, conservative vote progress, especially in the central state and down inland, Orange County making a comeback, and outside San Diego.

• 1:37:24Tom Ellsworth?

  So, could there be enough that one of those Republicans gets 33% of the vote, and there's such a splintering that he gets elected? So it's, it's a long shot, but that's what they're talking about, Pat, and the fact they're talking about, you know, means they're thinking about it. And the fact that they're thinking about it, they don't like it. Meanwhile, their leading Democrat candidate, which is, you know,

• 1:37:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Swalwell.

• 1:37:48Tom Ellsworth?

  China's favorite dating partner, is, is sitting there.

• 1:37:53Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, honestly, that is the worst leading candidate, because you have, number one is him at 13, 14%. And then you have, what's her name?

• 1:38:02Adam Sosnick?

  Katie Porter. I was just about to get very upset with Tom, discounting my girl Katie Potato.

• 1:38:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Katie Porter, 10 or 13, and then Tom Steyer. And then you have Hilton on the Republican side, that's number one, 16, 17 percent. And on Chad Bianco is second. I wouldn't mind having Chad Bianco and Hilton here together. Have a conversation about what's going on with California, maybe a friendly conversation between the two of them. But Swalwell right now, is this Kalshi, Rob? Kalshi is showing 57.6 percent. Hilton's at nine, Tom Steyer's at 14 percent on Kalshi. And this is $5 million of volume we're talking about. It's not like a small number. Adam?

• 1:38:41Adam Sosnick?

  I can't believe that Eric Swalwell's in the lead here right now. By the way, Tom Steyer, for such a successful person, what a loser. This guy just donates money to running for something and wins nothing. Like, remember when Michael Bloomberg just spent, basically spent $100 million to basically throw himself in the race? He's gonna be the savior. And then just basically made a donation. This guy's just donating money.

• 1:39:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Speaking is not everyone's ability. Public speaking is not... You think public speaking is like, just because you're a billionaire, you're great on stage? No, you gotta be able to sell, persuade, fight, you know, market. No, he doesn't have that.

• 1:39:17Adam Sosnick?

  If he had, if Katie Porter had his money, Katie Potato could be going some places right now.

• 1:39:22Patrick Bet-David?

  She's special.

• 1:39:23Adam Sosnick?

  She's got that. I know you have a...

• 1:39:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I do.

• 1:39:25Adam Sosnick?

  I don't want to bring... You're married, you're happily married, Jen, but you do have a thing for Katie. I don't know what...

• 1:39:30Patrick Bet-David?

  I do.

• 1:39:30Adam Sosnick?

  America's gift to management.

• 1:39:32Patrick Bet-David?

  But don't do that. Don't do that. Like, don't say stuff like that about her, because it offends me. If you put some stuff about Katie Porter online, people have to appreciate her talent. Rob, can you pull up one of the clips? I mean, you can do stuff like this. I don't like when you do that, you know, you're...

• 1:39:45Adam Sosnick?

  I want to be in the inner circle, man. I don't want to be a person that's...

• 1:39:47Patrick Bet-David?

  You lose the respect when you talk about people.

• 1:39:50Adam Sosnick?

  I'm sorry, man.

• 1:39:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, which one? Do you want to do this one? You tell me this is not a sweetheart. Go ahead.

• 1:39:57Adam Sosnick?

  This is what's so...

• 1:39:58Speaker 21

  This is the latest fall in September, and what it showed is if we don't...

• 1:40:02Patrick Bet-David?

  If a Democrat in California wins, I want her.

• 1:40:06Speaker 21

  That we're gonna lose more than half a million Californians dying prematurely to air pollution and other problems. And the state could lose...

• 1:40:16Speaker 21

  Get out of my fucking shot.

• 1:40:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh.

• 1:40:20Speaker 00

  It's not that it's electric vehicles, it's that.

• 1:40:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at her.

• 1:40:26Speaker 21

  Okay, it does, okay. You also were in my shot before that.

• 1:40:31Tom Ellsworth?

  No, she wasn't.

• 1:40:31Speaker 21

  Stay out.

• 1:40:32Tom Ellsworth?

  No, she was.

• 1:40:33Patrick Bet-David?

  But you know what, though?

• 1:40:34Speaker 21

  I'm gonna start again with.

• 1:40:35Patrick Bet-David?

  You need to tell me you don't think that's governor quality?

• 1:40:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh.

• 1:40:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You need to tell me that's not TV stuff?

• 1:40:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:40:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, she, she, by the way, if she goes on The View and I keep saying this, if she goes on The View and she does what she does, superstar, superstar.

• 1:40:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:40:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so, but anyways, going back to California.

• 1:40:51Tom Ellsworth?

  She could throw America into panic, you know?

• 1:40:53Adam Sosnick?

  Remember when I said LA used to be cool? That's the new face of California.

• 1:40:57Patrick Bet-David?

  If, if I, if I have to choose between Swalwell and her, I'm actually being very serious.

• 1:41:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, we want potato.

• 1:41:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I want her. I want her to be to California to see what she will do to California, but the 15% chance that the California has to have a Republican, to all the people that want California change, you better get behind Bianco or Hilton, pick and choose, play ball, give some money, support, go do your part, because if you don't, she's your governor.

• 1:41:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, she's been desperate.

• 1:41:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, man, oh, man.

• 1:41:25Tom Ellsworth?

  She's been desperate and sinking in the polls.

• 1:41:27Patrick Bet-David?

  She has.

• 1:41:27Tom Ellsworth?

  She's been sinking right now, and I'm just waiting for the comeback story, something that maybe would just throw America into panic. Katie Porter and Playboy reached terms. I'm waiting for that headline.

• 1:41:37Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, wow. Tom had to go there.

• 1:41:38Tom Ellsworth?

  America.

• 1:41:39Adam Sosnick?

  Tom and the Dirty Mind.

• 1:41:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I'd love to have her on here and have a conversation with her. Let me get to the next story here that we have. By the way, while this is taking place, Rob, I sent you a clip, a teacher in California, a teacher, this is New York or California, this is a teacher in New York. When you think about taxes, here's a teacher, Nate Friedman, another one of those guys that does a phenomenal job.

• 1:41:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Nate Friedman, shout out to him.

• 1:41:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so he is asking this teacher, what do you think should happen with all these billionaires that are leaving because of possible wealth taxes? What should happen to their businesses? Keep in mind, he is a teacher, teaching kids in America, this is his answer. This is why, this is why business owners are leaving states like this where these people are teaching the kids of that state and that city. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:42:25Speaker 22

  What do you say to this folks to say, "Well, if you tax millionaires, they're gonna leave the city and the top 1% pays 40% of the taxes in the city. So what happens if they leave? What's your response?"

• 1:42:35Speaker 15

  Well, that's what I would say. It's like, we should take their business and we run it like for our, like the city ourselves.

• 1:42:40Speaker 22

  So if they take their business to Florida, you feel like you can make it, keep it here?

• 1:42:44Speaker 15

  I mean, they can't leave the building. They can't like just bring their whole entire workforce to Florida, right? They can't bring all of the resources that they have to like build the business here to Florida, right? That's a, that's a whole thing. And that's where you would even say like, if we're building a real movement, right, to like stop that, we'd also like make it illegal for them to like actually like leave, right? We would find, like find them to hell if they're gonna try to like abandon their property here, right? Because clearly, people do need to work, right? People do need to like, you know, make a living, so.

• 1:43:13Speaker 23

  So that's Charles Berry. And while that might have been one of the craziest things I've ever heard in hundreds of street interviews, what matters more is that he's a teacher for New York Public Schools. Jeez.

• 1:43:23Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you say? Can you imagine what the kids are being taught? I mean, how you process that, Tom? I don't want to put a lot of time into this. Obviously, this teacher deserves a little bit of a time to highlight his madness, but how do you process that, Tom?

• 1:43:35Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, you cannot underestimate, never underestimate just the power of dumb. And that's how I assess it. You just can't underestimate how big it can be. And when you start asking people just these basic, basic questions. I, and by the way, this goes for all of us. Jay Leno used to do man on the street outside the Burbank courthouse. And there'd be people coming out with a manila folder and a little American flag. They were just sworn in. They just took an oath and they became citizens. And he would grab some person walking on the street with a backpack, like a college student or something, and then ask the two people the same questions they just took on the citizen test. How many branches of government are there? And you'd have this person from Vietnam who's now a

• 1:44:19Tom Ellsworth?

  US citizen would answer correctly. And the other person would go, "Well, I think we only have one branch of government. It's like the president. Isn't that right?" And they would just get it wrong. And just, you can't underestimate just the power of the uninformed populace.

• 1:44:33Speaker 07

  Isn't it like a measurable amount of the population that believes that chocolate milk comes from brown cows?

• 1:44:40Adam Sosnick?

  What are you trying to say? Are you trying to say that it doesn't come from brown cows?

• 1:44:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know. I haven't read the science.

• 1:44:46Adam Sosnick?

  Now, now, now, brown cow.

• 1:44:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I was not expecting for you to get racist today, but you crossed the line. They were brown cows.

• 1:44:52Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, you know what's going on in New York? You know what's the famous thing? It's like, "How's your wife? How's your kids?" Because they're coming out and they're indoctrinating everybody. That's what's going on in New York. You see this protest that's going on in New York?

• 1:45:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:04Adam Sosnick?

  They used to keep this stuff quiet, eh? By the way, we're communists, we're socialists. They're coming out with the communist flag, the Communist Manifesto. Shout out to Karl Marx, he's done great things for the world. And that's what they're doing? Is this in New York? Looks like Chinatown. I don't know what's going on around here. But, by the way, what percentage of this guy's a teacher? What percentage of elementary school teachers are male versus female? Or even middle school, high school? I think it's like 80-plus percent.

• 1:45:34Tom Ellsworth?

  But these people are making the point, right? It's a point you've made, Alan.

• 1:45:37Adam Sosnick?

  Hold on, Tom, you're interrupting me, buddy.

• 1:45:38Tom Ellsworth?

  These folks were, you know, you've talked about, you know, gays for Gaza. And they said, "Do you really know what it would be like if you went over there?" It's just like these people waving these flags. Do you have any clue what life would really be like if you got your wish here?

• 1:45:52Adam Sosnick?

  I appreciate the interruption, Tom. I love you. What percentage of teachers are male?

• 1:45:58Tom Ellsworth?

  You professional interruption.

• 1:45:59Adam Sosnick?

  It's 10%. Tom, what are you doing here, guy? I'll wait for you. Go ahead, Tom.

• 1:46:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh.

• 1:46:05Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, I'm waiting for you. You want to interrupt?

• 1:46:07Tom Ellsworth?

  This is sweet. You won't let him talk, you won't let him talk, and now you're holier-than-thou.

• 1:46:12Speaker 07

  I think we take a moment to pray again.

• 1:46:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna move on now.

• 1:46:15Adam Sosnick?

  I'm the neighbor, Tom. I'm trying to make a point that men are, very few men are teachers. And if this is the men that are teaching our children, this is who's shaping our youth, it's only gonna get worse. By the way, what city is this guy in? New York, California. We have to be very clear that people who run New York and run California cannot be shaping our country.

• 1:46:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:46:35Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, you got the one with the last word?

• 1:46:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's get to the next story. Now I'm getting to the next.

• 1:46:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, very few men are teachers statistically, incorrect.

• 1:46:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, alright, so let's get to the next story. Gunmen kills at least thirty in Nigeria's Plateau State attack. Which by the way, that's three days ago. I think that number's in the 50s now, Rob. What's the number, 56 is last I heard? Let me read that story. If you can maybe verify and, and, uh, the numbers that I'm sharing. Uh, so gunman attacked the University of Community in Nigeria's Plateau State on Sunday night, killing at least thirty people, residents and local officials said on Monday. The latest bloodshed is in the region, uh, uh, by deadly farmer, herder conflicts. Violence in central Nigeria, known as the middle belt, is often painted as ethno-religious. Between mainly Muslim, uh, Fulani herders and Christian farmers.

• 1:47:22Patrick Bet-David?

  But many experts and politicians say climate change and expanding agriculture still competition for land, leading to conflict regardless of faith or ethnicity. This is a Reuters story, obviously. They turned it into a climate change story. So, Vinny, I'm gonna come to you first with this tragic event that takes place there. Your thoughts?

• 1:47:38Speaker 03

  And Pat, and think about this happened three days ago. This is, this is Holy Week, okay? And these, these poor people are just trying to worship, uh, and a lot of innocent people were just shocked because they were shooting houses, uh, and everything like that just because of Jesus Christ. And my question is this, where are all the Christians at right now? Okay, where, where, where, where's, you know, the Vatican's the biggest Catholic? Okay, they're still, we're still Christians. Where, why isn't this the crisis story of the week? Where are the activist groups that claim every oppressed group still deserves non-stop coverage? Where are the celebrities? Where's the, where are the squares? Where's the Black Lives Matter? These, these people are, they're all black. What, where, where, where are all the causes and where's the outrage? Okay, the silence to me is absolutely deafening.

• 1:48:23Speaker 03

  Nope, brother, this is, this story came and went like that. No headlines, no CNN, no, no MSNBC. And if I thought about this, Elon, if this happened in a country that had strategic oil or rare earth minerals or even poppy fields, everybody and their mother would be there helping these people. But because, because it's poor African Christians that are being hunted down during Holy Week just because of their faith, it drives me crazy. And it makes it even worse because like I said, this is- Holy week and we're supposed to be, this is supposed to be the Christian week and nobody is saying anything and it drives me insane.

• 1:48:58Speaker 07

  Yeah, I've been, I've been working in this space for a while. The stats are unbelievably troubling. One in seven Christians worldwide is persecuted. There are hundreds of millions of Christians persecuted worldwide. The number one group persecuted in the world. Nobody talks about them. I often say, people talk about Israel all the time, the Jews all the time, all that stuff. I often say it's better to be hated than it is to be ignored. For your suffering to just be completely ignored and not acknowledged and to just have you there. And, and what these people do, you want to talk about sacrifice. It's an important time to talk about sacrifice right now. These people in the face of actually being murdered will stand tall in their faith. They will not put down their Bible when they are told, we are going to massacre you for it. And this, these are the stories that I'm so happy we're talking about it because I keep trying to raise awareness in this exact.

• 1:49:43Speaker 07

  And it's not just Nigeria, by the way. Nigeria has a massive problem, not just from the Fulanis, which you can argue is ethno-religious, but there's a massive religious component to it. But you also have Boko Haram over there, you have I swap over there. You have in Congo, terrible things happening to Christians, Somalia, Syria. When, when churches are bombed with people inside, suicide bombed in Syria, nobody talks about it. And I always ask myself why, again, spiritual battle, it all comes back to the same thing for me. These people are dying for their faith. They are martyrs for their faith. And I just think it's so important to acknowledge it. It's so important to get the attention over there. I would love to see a march for Nigerian Christians. That's my dream.

• 1:50:21Speaker 03

  Oh, and when they talk about boots, we've been arguing for how many weeks for boots on the ground, boots on the ground. This is the one time that I'd be like, go, please. I know that they said that they were going to help the last time. Go, they're helpless, bro. Like you said, Elon, they're praying and the ballet church blown up, bodies everywhere. Pastor's still sitting in the middle of an exploded church going, we're not gonna budge. We're still Christians and there's one pastor, oh, I wish I could find it, Pat, he was, he's like, I don't care, do it. He goes, let them come, come. He's looking at the cameras like, come, kill me, come, nothing, zero fear, bro. I'm wearing a faith over fear shirt. Zero fear, but I hate the silence. It's like, this is where the, this is the real people that are suffering and need the help, not a strategic thing.

• 1:51:05Speaker 03

  An actual murder of helpless Christians and nobody's helping them.

• 1:51:08Speaker 07

  Oh, what is this clip you got, Rob, here?

• 1:51:11Speaker 11

  This is one of the people that was associated with the church where these people were killed, talking about what happened that day.

• 1:51:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Go for it.

• 1:51:17Speaker 24

  People, we are here in the evening and unfortunately weaker terrorists came and attacked our people. And then we have counted scores of people who are now dead. And then so many others are also in the hospital receiving treatment.

• 1:51:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom. It's a simple game and it's called Kill the Truth. And you look around the world and you look at the truth of the statistics is the Christians are the number one persecuted group and it happens in silence. Sensationalized things are used to counter it and it takes nothing away from genocides and maniacs that are happening to people of other faiths. But why is it that there's such an ardent attempt to not only persecute the Christians, but to legislate belief structures into convincing that it's actually hate speech? To even Canada saying that having a Bible and reading from it and saying something

• 1:52:18Tom Ellsworth?

  is now on the verge of a persecutable, you know, criminal offense of the misdemeanor level. Why? Why does that happen? Because the game is called Kill the Truth because there is one truth and that truth stands tall and it has a group of people that stand in peace, that are dying for their faith, that are not retaliating and are the first people assured when there's tragedies and natural disasters. Churches are sending people often before governments can get there. I can go back to Hurricane Katrina and I can show you chapter and verse where churches made it down with water and supplies when the US government was failing. And so you look at that. Why? Why is that?

• 1:53:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Because there's a purity to it and there's one truth and the job is kill the truth and to kill the people and to cover up the truth of what's really happening. Because in a world of globalist, you can't have Christianity. In a world of totalitarian regimes, you can't have Christianity. You're absolutely right, and more needs to be said and be aware. These people have 30 people die and it doesn't show up on any news, right?

• 1:53:28Speaker 07

  53, they're saying, and-

• 1:53:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, just the first, I'm talking about the very first report. It's gotten worse, the number's getting bigger, right?

• 1:53:34Speaker 07

  Yeah, the number keeps going. Look, I've been, again, I've been trying for years, and it's interesting because the resistance to this is irrational. It's like people don't want to talk about it. It's not that they're fundamentally against talking about it. And, uh, yeah, I agree with you fully. You can't, what's the first thing you destroy in a Marxist state? You destroy the idea of God.

• 1:53:52Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, it's interesting while we're going through this. I want to show two things. One is, a report comes out that King Charles, who, you know, you know, Good Friday's here, announcement was made that he will not be talking about it this year at all. He did dedicate, you know, Buckingham Palace has confirmed King Charles will not issue an Easter message this year.

• 1:54:18Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 1:54:18Patrick Bet-David?

  He did issue a Ramadan message earlier this year. He did, but not an Easter message. And, you know, and by the way, this goes back to 1993. There's a clip of him, I don't know if you've seen this or not, where it says Islam is part of our past and our present. I want you to play this clip, Rob, watch this, go for it.

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• 1:55:54Speaker 25

  Islam is part of our past and our present in all fields of human endeavor. It has helped to create modern Europe. It is part of our own inheritance, not a thing apart. Islam can teach us today a way of understanding and living in the world which Christianity itself is the poorer for having lost.

• 1:56:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:56:17Speaker 25

  Our judgment of...

• 1:56:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. The what? Repeat back again, go back again, go back 10 seconds, Rob. Not that far, just go back right there, go for it.

• 1:56:27Speaker 25

  Not a thing apart. Islam can teach us today a way of understanding and living in the world which Christianity itself is the poorer for having lost.

• 1:56:39Speaker 25

  Our judgment of Islam has been grossly distorted by taking the extremes to be the norm. That, ladies and gentlemen, is a serious mistake. It's like judging the quality of life...

• 1:56:54Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. So, this is a real thing that's going on, by the way. King Charles, a lot of people that are, you know, from there will say, well, he secretly became a Muslim and I think he took $3 million from somebody that was shown, whether it was Qatar or I don't know who it was, from someone. You can verify this, Rob, as I'm going through this. But this is a real thing. And when you think about UK, what do you think about what's going on with Britain right now?

• 1:57:21Speaker 05

  They're cooked.

• 1:57:21Patrick Bet-David?

  You know?

• 1:57:22Speaker 05

  They're completely...

• 1:57:22Patrick Bet-David?

  According to Pierce Morgan, nothing's going on. All good. Pierce wants to invite us to go out there and go to London and go to different parts. I'd love to do the following, okay, if Pierce is open to it. By the way, Pierce and I have a very good relationship. I actually think he's phenomenal for the marketplace of what he's doing. His voice is phenomenal. Pierce, I'd like to do one thing. How about we come down? Me, you, the boys, and Tommy Robbins. You give your version, he gives his version. And we'll record it. And we'll have a conversation. And let's just kind of see. What is his version of the story? What's your version of the story? And let's see what's going on. I do think you're a real player. I do think you're an honest player. I don't think you're. I think you'll push anybody at any time, you know, at any place. But I think that would be something I wouldn't mind entertaining because

• 1:58:07Patrick Bet-David?

  a- as we're going through this next phase. You know, i- is that the one right there when John personally accepted? Uh, the story you're referring to is 2022 Sunday Times. Reported that Prince Charles personally accepted a three separate cash donations totaling $3 million from Sheikh Hamad bin uh, Jamin Bir. What a name. Long name, just HBJ. The former prime minister of Qatar. There you go. These occurred in 2011, 2015. Is that he got 3.2 million dollars? So you're saying you can be bought for 3 million bucks? By the way, the payments were handed over in cash. Okay, mostly 500 pound notes during private meetings, sometimes in suitcase or shopping bags. So what most people don't know about, including from Fortnum and Mason, one notable handover was a suitcase

• 1:58:51Patrick Bet-David?

  containing a million pounds at Clarence House in 2015. The money was uh, intended as donation to the Prince of Wales Charitable Fund. Later passed to the charity accounts at Cowes Bank. Charles's office stated that the funds were handled over immediately to the charity and which concluded due diligence, et cetera, et cetera. There was no evidence of illegality to it. But again, the money came from where? So who knows? Who knows? Never know. You never know what's going on there. But uh, it's important to pay attention to that this is happening there. And then in Canada, Rob. You know, Canada just i- in 2025, I won't say October, maybe even earlier than that. A couple guys, this guy right here, they started working on saying some of the stuff in the Bible is hate speech. Okay, truly, some of the stuff in the Bible is hate speech. And here's what he had to say.

• 1:59:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Go forward, Rob.

• 1:59:37Speaker 26

  In this case, the Bible, but there are other type religious texts that say the same thing. Uh, a- and somehow constantly say that this is good faith. I mean, clearly there are situations in these texts where these statements are hateful. They should not be used.

• 1:59:49Patrick Bet-David?

  In the Bible.

• 1:59:49Speaker 26

  To invoke.

• 1:59:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Last to me, what he said.

• 1:59:51Speaker 26

  Or be a defense and there should perhaps be discretion for prosecutors to press charges. Uh, I just want to understand what your notion of good faith is in this context where there are clearly.

• 2:00:01Speaker 07

  Yeah, when you have a country without a constitution, this is what happens. I mean, they don't have the First Amendment.

• 2:00:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me read this, and then I'm gonna come to you. Let me read this, and I'm gonna come to you. So, you're hearing this, okay? So, here we go. Canada wants to make quoting the Bible illegal. This is The Spectator, two days ago. "Easter is almost here, and Canada's Liberal government has chosen the sacred season to display its utter contempt for Christianity. It's currently forcing through the outrageous Bill C9, which could make it a hate crime to quote from the sections of the Bible. More than 40 civilian religious groups have asked that for the bill's language be clarified and its scope more carefully defined, so that religious texts would not be subject to hate crime legislation. But all in vain, after a hot debate in the House of Commons, the Liberals high-handedly

• 2:00:50Patrick Bet-David?

  ended a Conservative filibuster, in fact, fast-tracked the bill. It's now been sent to the Senate to decide if Canada is a kind of a country that wants to turn quoting St. Paul into a criminal act." Ilan.

• 2:01:03Speaker 07

  Yeah, again, Canada doesn't have, they have a Bill of Rights, but they don't have the First Amendment in the way we do. I think, you look at Canada during COVID, they were going after churches like crazy. And again, I think this is bigger than politics. I think it's spiritual. I think that Canada has an attack on truth across the board. The world is seeing an attack on truth across the board. Tom has been touching on it. And I think it's a spiritual war. If you can destroy the idea of gender, if you can destroy the idea of man having value, woman having value, the sanctity of a child. Like, when you think about how out-of-control abortion is, all these things, and now they're attacking the very scripture that's meant to be spread to protect against those evils. They're doing it for a reason. And that's the thing I fear most in the world.

• 2:01:48Speaker 07

  And I think people are met now with a binary, anyone watching, you're met with a binary choice now. You're either gonna go down the path of moral relativism, which will lead you to nihilism, a complete destruction of truth, and it will leave you in a void that is empty, a dark void. It will lead to depression, we're seeing it. It will lead to anxiety. It'll lead to all the nihilistic behavior we're seeing. Or you will head to a path of truth. And I think the only light I see in all of this is because of these blatant, open attacks on Christianity that we're not only seeing in Canada, we've even seen it in our own country. They've gone after churches in our own country. And I think the only benefit to all this is that as that becomes so binary, you really do have a choice. The choice is presented to you by God now. You will either follow me or you will follow that.

• 2:02:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Elon, what were you raised as?

• 2:02:32Speaker 07

  I was born as Jewish.

• 2:02:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You were born as Jewish? When did you become a Christian?

• 2:02:36Speaker 07

  Well, I became an atheist for a while. I went through a lot of stuff. And then I had a friend who started telling me, hey, come to church, visit me. You know, like, just try it out. I was working on the show Loki. My friend took me to a monastery, a silent monastery for monks, Christian monks, Catholic monks. And it was the first time that I felt at peace in a very long time. I've suffered from depression for most of my life. I've suffered from anxiety. I've drank too much for a big part of my life. And this was, out of everything I've ever experienced in my life, that was the first time that I felt at peace inside. I couldn't explain it. Then I went to church one day and I cried. I cried. I was sitting there and I started crying. I'm like, why am I, why am I crying here? Like, what is going on with me? What is the thing that's happening to me that's making me cry? And I realized I've been carrying this burden.

• 2:03:20Speaker 07

  You talk about it's not me, it's not me, it's not me. I've been carrying this burden my whole life that it's me, it's me, it's me. And I finally found a home where I was like, wow, this burden, this relationship with something bigger than myself can finally be shared. And I tell everyone this, there is nothing other than Christianity that will cure alcoholism. There's nothing other than Christianity that will truly clear your depression or your, whatever you're going through. Because it's a relationship with something bigger than yourself that you can take off yourself and put there. And yeah, it's been tremendous for me. I had a friend who, sorry, not to go on for a long time, but I had a friend who's like, what do you mean you believe in this now? What's going on? Because when you're raised Jewish, it's very hard for people to hear that you're also doing something like that. And my Jewish identity is still important to me.

• 2:04:06Speaker 07

  But I said, it makes me a better person. So I don't care what anyone tells me. I don't care what anyone believes about me. It makes me a better person and that's all that matters.

• 2:04:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I love it. Good for you. Adam, your thoughts on that?

• 2:04:16Adam Sosnick?

  I love your story and I wish that more stories like that were shared. I think that Judaism and Christianity has a bond that should be unbreakable. You know, without the Old Testament, there's no New Testament.

• 2:04:28Adam Sosnick?

  Look, the crusades were fought between the Christians and the Muslims and the Jews were always in the middle because they were always fighting over Jerusalem. Jew-rus-lem, for anybody that has a problem with the Jews being Jerusalem. It's in the name, Judea, Jerusalem. The Bible is the greatest book of all time. It's the, you know, the old version and the new version, whatever version you subscribe to. That book is the most important book, other than maybe the Declaration of Independence, United States Constitution. We are here in America. I love what you have to say. I wish more people said that. Jesus was, if not the greatest, the, one of the greatest people of all time to walk to earth. I get in arguments with my Jewish friends, I say, "Why don't you have a little more respect for Jesus?" They go, "I don't believe he was God."

• 2:05:12Adam Sosnick?

  I said, "That doesn't mean you shouldn't have respect for him." He was a Jewish rabbi. Who hung out with only Jewish people. His mother, Jewish, father Jewish, all the wise, everyone around him was Jewish. He was questioning authority, a questioning establishment.

• 2:05:27Speaker 03

  Well, his father wasn't Ju- his father wasn't Jewish. But go ahead, go ahead, finish, I'm sorry, I didn't want to, I just wanted to-

• 2:05:33Adam Sosnick?

  Don't pull a Tom right now. The reality is, we need to work closer together because we're better together than we are apart. There's a crazy segment of the world that some people don't want to name. And that crazy segment of the world, whether it's 1% or 2%, it's millions of people and that is called radical Islam. The story started out with Nigeria, did it not?

• 2:05:53Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:05:54Adam Sosnick?

  What's going on in Nigeria? I didn't even know this story. Didn't Trump, Trump bomb Nigeria a couple of months ago? Did he not? Didn't you have a shirt-

• 2:06:02Speaker 03

  He didn't bomb, he sent troops. Well, I thought, I thought that they sent troops.

• 2:06:05Speaker 07

  Yeah, they said they're sending ground troops.

• 2:06:06Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, I didn't see it.

• 2:06:07Adam Sosnick?

  So, but I thought he did do something in Nigeria, but I, I, genuine question, genuine question, don't come at me. Why should we care about Nigeria as Americans?

• 2:06:16Speaker 03

  What do you mean?

• 2:06:17Adam Sosnick?

  Why should we care about Nigeria? There's so much going on in the world. Iran, Gaza, Israel, Sudan.

• 2:06:23Speaker 03

  Are you actually, is it a little historical, or?

• 2:06:25Adam Sosnick?

  No, I'm asking.

• 2:06:25Speaker 03

  Because these are defenseless Christians that are just in churches-

• 2:06:30Adam Sosnick?

  You're okay with-

• 2:06:30Speaker 03

  -praying to, hold on, you asked me, let me finish. They're wor- they are worshiping Jesus Christ and they are all getting massacred. And they have nothing, they have nobody, Boko, whatever all these guys are.

• 2:06:44Speaker 07

  Well, Islam, it's mostly Fulanis, Iswar-

• 2:06:47Adam Sosnick?

  And Boko Haram is a, is an Islamic terrorist organization.

• 2:06:52Adam Sosnick?

  Should we just negotiate with them? Do you think they'll listen? Or do we have to do something about it?

• 2:06:55Speaker 03

  No, we have to go in and help them. But no, because nobody's helping them.

• 2:06:59Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so are you okay in Nigeria, having American boots on the ground?

• 2:07:03Speaker 03

  I 100%.

• 2:07:04Adam Sosnick?

  So, but you don't want American boots on the ground in Iran, I thought you said?

• 2:07:08Speaker 03

  I don't want, for, wait, why, are they defenseless, are they, wait, wait, wait, time out. You can't compare defenseless Christians in Nigeria that are in wooden, stone buildings, praying to God and getting massacred. They're just out there by themselves.

• 2:07:23Adam Sosnick?

  Can't you argue that they're doing the exact same thing in Iran? Defenseless people praying to God. The largest, the largest growing religion in Iran is what?

• 2:07:32Speaker 03

  Christianity.

• 2:07:33Adam Sosnick?

  Christianity.

• 2:07:33Speaker 03

  Okay, but if you're gonna say-

• 2:07:34Adam Sosnick?

  So there's innocent Christians being killed there too?

• 2:07:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, but if you're gonna say-

• 2:07:36Adam Sosnick?

  So where do you draw the line on boots on the ground?

• 2:07:38Speaker 03

  This is two completely different-

• 2:07:39Adam Sosnick?

  I don't think it is.

• 2:07:40Speaker 03

  I think it's two completely different things, Adam. Because when, they've been for 47 years under this thing. Everybody, it's not just America that wanna, we're going in and we went in because Marco Rubio and all this type of stuff, this is a completely different argument.

• 2:07:54Speaker 07

  Adam, I'll answer for you.

• 2:07:56Adam Sosnick?

  I'm gonna come to you in one sec. I just want to understand where you draw the line on boots on the ground. We had boots on the ground in Venezuela.

• 2:08:01Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, this is a very good sequencing of questions that you're asking. And I think, you know, this, this exchange right here is what leads to a lot of the arguments. And there's leaks in both sides of the argument. I actually love this exchange that just happened right now. Because it makes us actually think, why are we for in Nigeria but not for Iran? Okay? Why are we for helping out Gaza but not helping out Iranians? Why are we for helping out Iranians, saving them, but not the people in Gaza? Both sides make the argument in a very, it leads to a leak in the argument of both sides. If you actually think about it. It truly leads to having a leak.

• 2:08:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, the guys are like, "Yeah, you know, he's for Gaza and Palestine, it's not fair what they're doing, Israel's doing a genocide," but they're quiet about Iran.

• 2:08:53Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:08:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And then the Christians are, Christians are sometimes, "Yeah, Iran, we got it," and it's like, "But quiet about Gaza." It's a very, very valid argument, Iran. I wonder what you're gonna say here yourself?

• 2:09:03Speaker 07

  Well, what I was gonna say is there's certain, just unfortunate realities. The threat from Iran to our ground troops is significantly, and the long-term consequences of a ground invasion in Iran and how long it would take and everything, is fundamentally different than Fulani tribes. So you have to also look at- You know, how hard is it to solve the problem and protect people versus the benefit? So it's a cost benefit thing. It's not to say that, you know, when there were 30, 40,000 people being massacred in Iran during the uprising that happened, I would say that at that exact moment, if people were making the argument, this is an ending, we need to get boots on the ground, we need to cut this off before millions of people potentially die, you have an argument there, but what's happening in Nigeria is just a longstanding continued massacre of people based on their

• 2:09:48Speaker 07

  religion. And you either look at the United States and you go, we're 100% isolationist, we have no reason to be involved, or you look at the United States kind of like a superhero, and you say, look, we're superheroes, we do have an obligation in the world to do what's right sometimes, even if it's hard. So Nigeria is a place where we can go in with a high benefit to cost compared to Iran at first, as a starting point. That doesn't mean, I'm not saying police the world, but I'm saying when there's something like the genocide we see in Nigeria, there should be some controlled involvement to protect them over there.

• 2:10:20Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, my ultimate point was this, I'm not an isolationist and I'm not a complete interventionist. You know, the whole conversation of America can't police the world. America's not the world's police, really? Who is though? Because if America doesn't have the badge policing the world, who do you want policing the world? You want China policing the world? You want Russia running the world? You want the Islamic Republic of Iran running the world? So in my opinion, America should be the policeman of the world. We might pull out a NATO. NATO, EU, let me know how you're going to work without American funding. So as much as we don't want to intervene in every single conflict, as much as we don't want boots on the ground, if not America, then who?

• 2:11:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let's do that. Let's go into this. Let's go into the great transition into this. Trump absolutely considering NATO exit will rip Europe in primetime remarks. He said on Wednesday that he's absolutely considering withdrawing the United States from the NATO. Is this, yeah, well, play the clip, Rob, go for it.

• 2:11:20Speaker 27

  To be honest, I was really asking.

• 2:11:24Speaker 27

  Because I wanted to see what they do. We didn't need them. We blasted the hell out of them, out of Varan. The last thing I needed was NATO stepping in our way. Because they're not, they're a paper tiger. But, uh, so we didn't need them, but I, I asked anyway. And they probably think I'm the worst salesman ever. I was the worst.

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• 2:13:16Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. So he continues, "Trump and he remembered what they were trying to telegraph that NATO's future is beyond reconsideration after European leaders barred US of military bases for month-long Iran conflict and balked at US's request for naval support to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. I was never swayed by NATO. NATO for generations has been a cornerstone of US foreign policy, committing to US, Canada, and major nations in Europe to collectively defend against external threats." So, this is a big statement to be made. By the way, just so you guys know, I thought, I thought that when he gave that speech at night, at 9:00 PM, I thought the announcement was going to be, "We're leaving NATO," or I thought the announcement was going to be, "The Gulf states are paying

• 2:14:01Patrick Bet-David?

  for the war." I thought it was going to be some announcement like that. But we haven't covered it because we did a great job covering it with Werner and Luke yesterday. It was great. But what do you think about Tom, when he's making these comments about NATO? How do you process this? How far do you think he'll go with this?

• 2:14:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, he is a great negotiator, and he's a great dealmaker. And what he is reminding them is if you look over the course of human history, you know, alliances, you know, are not necessarily permanent. Now, I am not in favor of, you know, breaking the NATO alliance. I am in favor of everybody pays a fair share, and we get certain and get everybody on the same page in terms of strategy. But what he's saying is, he's saying, "Look, if this, you know, we had, remember the SALT treaties, SALT and SALT II, and they broke and they fell apart. Why? Because they didn't outlive their usefulness. Everybody started behaving

• 2:14:58Tom Ellsworth?

  differently, and suddenly the treaty was worthless, and then you had to go negotiate SALT II." And so, and people say, "Well, those are just treaties. You don't know what you're talking about." This is, "Well, really? Those are pretty important treaties." What you have here, Pat, is Europe is going through a metamorphosis of its own. And the France that signed NATO is not the France we're dealing with today. The UK that signed NATO and all the NATO nations are not the same today. They have different strategies and different implementations politically. And so what he's saying is, you know what? If this has outlived its usefulness, you know, maybe we need to make a change.

• 2:15:43Tom Ellsworth?

  And I think that's the point he's making. And he's making it from a negotiation chair and the deal-making chair. He's reminding them about, why did we get into this in the first place? Pat, you've done this. You've had carriers. You had very large insurance carriers. They changed. They got different CEOs. He had, oh, we had one that had different financial situation came up, remember? And they had to completely change all their distribution policies and who they worked with because their financials completely changed. So guess what? Someone that was a staunch ally one year and a staunch supporter one year, therefore, you know, a distribution agreement, if you look at it in political terms, all of a sudden they can't do it. So you have no treaty anymore.

• 2:16:25Tom Ellsworth?

  So I don't want to see NATO torn apart, but I think he's negotiating and I think there's a lot of things going on in the middle of it. And they're showing their face. Oh, you can't use my airspace.

• 2:16:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, let me ask you. Tom, let me ask you. We've been in thousands of meetings together. If something like this happened, how would we have handled it with NATO?

• 2:16:44Tom Ellsworth?

  We would have said, if you want to, if you, not well. I don't think it would have, we would have reminded them.

• 2:16:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you understand what I'm saying? Would we have taken similar approaches to say, oh, really? This is what you want to do? No problem. No problem.

• 2:16:58Tom Ellsworth?

  That's exactly what we would have done, especially when we had all the distribution and you were representing a position of strength.

• 2:17:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So you know what's funny is when I look at this and I look at the fumbles leaders, we make all, we all make them. We've done them. I've done it. God knows how many I've done. And he's going to do it as well. There's no perfection.

• 2:17:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I've done it.

• 2:17:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Trust in your instinct, right? When he's coming on doing this. This is the part where I voted for him. I want him in the negotiating room. You know who capitalized off this yesterday? Trying to get him from the mix? You know who posted something on Instagram yesterday? On the my favorite clip of a for some people, just sometimes we need to be reminded. I want to I want to show you something to guys, get your blood pressure machine next to you. Get your blood pressure machine next to you. Let me see if I can find this thing that I saw literally, I think it was just a couple of days ago. Uh, let me see if I can find this. I'll find it. Somebody saw this as an opportunity. Oh, right there. Okay. Uh, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa. Is this everyone's I'm trying to

• 2:17:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm trying to come down with the people. Yeah, in more. Okay, well, let me find this. I'll send it to you. But here's the point. I I voted for this guy to do that. We didn't have it with Biden. I didn't feel comfortable with Obama. Kamala, I didn't think could negotiate anything except for anyways. Additional I got you. I know where you're going. But you have a negotiator that's doing this. And I think this NATO thing could be could backfire on them if a Republican gets reelected in 2028. But the first thing if a demo like right now, think like a Democrat. Guess what the Democrats are doing right now? Guess what a Newsom or an AOC will be doing right now? You know what's the power position right now for Newsom to do?

• 2:18:44Patrick Bet-David?

  If if I'm a Democratic strategist, all I'm saying is, hey, man, get up on the public, make a video and talk about the history of NATO and how important it is to us. Right now is the right move for a Democrat to get up and talk about why this relationship is so important. Capitalize off of it. For Republicans, you need one more term. Because if this term doesn't go four more years to 2032, NATO is going to go like this in 2028 with a Democrat getting elected. A Newsom or AOC should get on the pulpit right now and start selling the history of NATO. And they will because this is opportunistic. You got to slide into the girl's DM after the breakup.

• 2:19:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, those dirty things that people do. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, so this is the part where, you know, they just had a breakup. NATO and Trump are looking like they're going through a breakup. Newsom should, I'm surprised if they haven't already, by the way. But I think this is going to be nasty in a big way. What's this one, Rob? This approval rating? Is this about the economy that we were talking about?

• 2:19:48Speaker 29

  Yes, sir.

• 2:19:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead and play this clip. Go for it.

• 2:19:50Speaker 29

  Goodness gracious, what a disaster. 72% in our latest CNN poll say they disapprove of the president on inflation. Joe Biden, in average polls at this point in his presidency, 68%. And Jimmy Carter, whose presidency, just like Joe Biden's, was absolutely wrecked by inflation, was at 66% about at this point in his presidency back in 1978. Donald Trump, even worse than they are, 76%. Three in four Americans disapprove of the way that Donald Trump is handling gas prices, the worst of all time at this point in term number two. It's the economy dragging Trump down. Oh, my goodness gracious.

• 2:20:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Tom.

• 2:20:32Adam Sosnick?

  So on, this is basically...

• 2:20:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Actually, no, wait. Let me go to Adam because I think, Adam, this was your story on the economy. Go for it.

• 2:20:39Adam Sosnick?

  Well, does this have to do with NATO?

• 2:20:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Both of them. Do NATO in this as well.

• 2:20:43Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I didn't really understand that. Is he talking about inflation? Or is he talking about gas prices? Because inflation is at 2.5% right now. Under Biden, it was 8%. And we've had multiple arguments with this about the money printing quantitative easing. But if the stat is about inflation, there it goes, 2.4%.

• 2:20:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to the fact that Americans don't feel confident about the way he's handling the economy right now. Of course, gas prices, by the way, can you guys post in the comment section? How much gas prices are right now? And FYI, Rob, ask the question the following way. Has your gas prices gone up 50 cents to a dollar, a dollar to 50 cents, buck 50 plus to $2 and $2 plus? Give those four options. 52 buck, buck two buck fifty, buck fifty to two, two dollars plus. I'm curious to know what the gas price is gonna be at, where you guys are at. Go ahead, Adam.

• 2:21:28Adam Sosnick?

  Look, you know, what's the, the, uh, the fear versus greed index? If you want to pull that up, people are in extreme fear right now. But, much like the markets, things change, weekly to monthly. We'll be out of this in a matter of weeks, if not months. So, uh, Trump is fighting so many wars right now, whether it's the external forces of the wars, or whether it's the media wars, this is nothing new for Trump. The, I think that the, the speech that Trump gave, was it last night, two nights ago?

• 2:21:53Speaker 03

  First.

• 2:21:53Adam Sosnick?

  Was so needed. Very calm, very surgical, here's what's going on. What's the whole phrase that we said? Short-term pain for the long-term gain? That's what's gonna happen. Regarding NATO, if you told me a year ago, how dare you, we can't leave NATO? We're a part of NATO, those are our allies. But then you unpack the numbers, do you know what percentage of the overall budget of NATO, military spending, US pays versus all the NATO countries?

• 2:22:22Patrick Bet-David?

  We've talked about this.

• 2:22:22Adam Sosnick?

  Do you know the number?

• 2:22:23Speaker 03

  That we pay for, for the military for NATO?

• 2:22:25Adam Sosnick?

  US pays two-thirds of all of NATO.

• 2:22:27Patrick Bet-David?

  That's crazy.

• 2:22:28Adam Sosnick?

  So you have all these, 900 billion dollars. The next up is Germany with 90 billion. Then you have UK, 80 something billion, France, 60 billion, Italy, 35 billion, Poland, 34 billion, Canada, Turkey, and then you have countries that you've basically never even heard of. Latvia, Slovenia, all these UZs, they're basically the stans of the Europe that pay nothing.

• 2:22:52Speaker 03

  Borats.

• 2:22:53Adam Sosnick?

  And these are the former, uh, USSR temple.

• 2:22:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think that's the right number.

• 2:22:57Adam Sosnick?

  That is the right number.

• 2:22:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Which is what?

• 2:22:59Adam Sosnick?

  You, you, United States pays two-thirds of military spend of NATO. Basically, we're, we're funding the bill.

• 2:23:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You said 900 billion?

• 2:23:08Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 2:23:09Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I don't think so, I, I don't think it's 900, I, I think you're wrong. I don't think it's 900, I've looked into this and I've done a clip on this.

• 2:23:16Adam Sosnick?

  But what percentage?

• 2:23:17Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I, I think it's, I think it's, uh, I just did a video on this, I think it's like 1.1 billion or, it's, it's somewhere between 800 million to 1.2 billion. Can you, can Humberto, can you guys fact check this real quick? 900, our military budget is 1.2, 1.3, between 900 billion to 1.3 trillion. I think we're off.

• 2:23:36Adam Sosnick?

  Do the math on this, we pay 2% of our total GDP? What's our GDP, 27 trillion? So do the number on that.

• 2:23:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I understand.

• 2:23:44Adam Sosnick?

  Just, I thought it was, I thought it was 2% of our GDP.

• 2:23:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let's do the math for you right there. If it's, how much was the trillion? What did you say?

• 2:23:51Adam Sosnick?

  Isn't it 20, oh, well, 30 trillion, 30 trillion?

• 2:23:54Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a big number. I'm not telling you it's not a big number, but I can't say 900 billion. That's our military budget, Rob. Uh, Adam.

• 2:24:01Adam Sosnick?

  No, I know that. That's separate from this.

• 2:24:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. I'm just trying to make sure the audience sees the difference. There's a massive difference between.

• 2:24:08Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. Even if it's less.

• 2:24:09Speaker 03

  Oh, I just had chat GPT. How much does, does the US give NATO each year? The direct US payment into NATO common budget is roughly 750 million to 800 million.

• 2:24:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. 750 million.

• 2:24:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:24:21Patrick Bet-David?

  To a billion.

• 2:24:22Speaker 03

  NATO's budget.

• 2:24:23Patrick Bet-David?

  We're not giving 900 billion.

• 2:24:24Adam Sosnick?

  No, I don't know about that.

• 2:24:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. But by the way.

• 2:24:27Adam Sosnick?

  That was 2% of our GDP, is it not?

• 2:24:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Humberto, can you in the back just send the story and Rob pull it up to look at? I don't think that's the number, Adam. It's a big number and I, I actually think we, we are only now 5, 3, 3 and a half percent to 5% of the entire budget. Uh, to be sure.

• 2:24:42Speaker 07

  No, it's all US defense spending equals 900 plus billion per year.

• 2:24:45Patrick Bet-David?

  US complete defense annual budget is 900 billion.

• 2:24:49Adam Sosnick?

  All right.

• 2:24:50Patrick Bet-David?

  To ensure, to be sure, the membership in NATO does not.

• 2:24:52Adam Sosnick?

  Over a trillion dollars in defense.

• 2:24:54Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no. It's 700, yeah, 900 billion is 100 billion less than a trillion. So it's, it's, but that's, we say 900 billion to NATO is ridiculous.

• 2:25:00Adam Sosnick?

  Can we just pull up a chart of what people are spending on NATO? But the, can you fact check this? Are we not funding 2/3 of all of NATO?

• 2:25:07Speaker 07

  I think we are. Yes, we are. We're paying 70% of NATO. The argument people make is that US's overall military defense budget is in many ways taking care of NATO because if anything happens.

• 2:25:17Patrick Bet-David?

  And I, I don't even think we're paying 70%. I'm telling you, I, cause I just looked at this. I don't even think.

• 2:25:23Speaker 07

  Of NATO military power. We make up 70% of NATO military.

• 2:25:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Military power, not the whole budget you're talking about.

• 2:25:29Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 2:25:30Adam Sosnick?

  The point is this. We are paying for NATO, are we not? Do we, are we not the biggest spender of NATO?

• 2:25:36Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:25:36Adam Sosnick?

  And what do we get from NATO? That's my point.

• 2:25:39Patrick Bet-David?

  900 billion is a big number, buddy. I'm just correcting that number.

• 2:25:42Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 2:25:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep going.

• 2:25:45Adam Sosnick?

  You raised the question of whether Trump should leave NATO. My point was a year ago, two years ago, I would have been like, that's crazy talk. Now, we see that they didn't have our back in Iran.

• 2:25:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and I'm right. The US share NATO budget annually is $4 billion. We are roughly 15% of that.

• 2:26:02Adam Sosnick?

  You're saying that NATO's budget is only $4 billion?

• 2:26:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, yes, bro, yes. But US counts for 65 to 70% of NATO's defense spending, which is not that... Defense spending is like, if you put all the militaries together, and they spend 1.3 to 1.5 trillion dollars. This is like a different way of explaining it. So you're Germany. I don't know how much... I've done this numbers with everybody. This is why I kind of questioned this. You spend 80 billion on your military. You're France, you do 100 billion. You're, you know, UK, you do 120 billion, whatever. You take all those guys combined. I'm US, I do 900 billion. We are all NATO. I'm 65% of the 1.5 trillion that we all spend on the military. But the NATO budget itself, we're 15 to 16%.

• 2:26:49Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, 13% too much, 12% too much. But these are two different numbers that we're talking about here.

• 2:26:57Adam Sosnick?

  So there's the military spending, but then there's also, so like, the bureaucracy spending?

• 2:27:01Patrick Bet-David?

  The 900 billion that you're pulling up is how much we spend on our military. I don't want to spend too much time on this.

• 2:27:06Adam Sosnick?

  Adam, we can sum it up really fast.

• 2:27:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Go based on the 15 to 16%. That's a lot.

• 2:27:10Adam Sosnick?

  Correct. The point is, we're funding NATO. What's the famous quote that Mark Root said, the Secretary of Defense of NATO? Didn't he say, "Listen, guys, you guys are talking trash about the United States, talking about Trump. We need them. Without them, we're cooked." And the whole point that I'm making is this. When we needed them most with Iran, which Trump basically said, "I didn't even need you."

• 2:27:30Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:27:31Adam Sosnick?

  "We need you with Hormuz, what are you doing?" So it just further proves that whatever's going on in Europe, the strange death of Europe, is a real thing.

• 2:27:38Speaker 07

  The great irony here is that the intermediate-range ballistic missiles can reach Europe. They're a bigger threat to Europe.

• 2:27:44Adam Sosnick?

  From Iran, you mean?

• 2:27:44Speaker 07

  From Iran than to the United States, and yet Europe is just...

• 2:27:46Adam Sosnick?

  That's the point.

• 2:27:47Speaker 07

  Blowing their eyes and covering their ears and saying, "No, no, no, we'll be fine." So the fact that they don't let us use their military...

• 2:27:53Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's go on. We're all on the same page here. The only thing is, numbers are very different. Yeah, so it's a different number that we have. Can we do the last story here before we wrap up? Because I got to run up to Mac 7. And let's try to do this in five minutes. Do we want to do the Drew Skierica Kirk, or do we want to do Charlie Kirk?

• 2:28:10Speaker 07

  The bullet you're talking about?

• 2:28:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Bullet.

• 2:28:11Speaker 07

  I mean, I was interested to hear what you had.

• 2:28:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let's go to that one. Let me go to that one. I'll read it to you and then I'm gonna come to you because that was one of the stories that we had. A bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did not match the rifle allegedly used by the suspect Tyler Robinson. New court ruling. Uh, this is a Daily Mail story. Let me get to page 17 and then Vinny, I'm gonna come to you first and then Elon, we're going to you right afterwards and then Adam and then Tom, if you have any thoughts, we'll wrap up with that. But, uh, the bullet that killed conservative competitor Charlie Kirk does not match the rifle. Tyler Robinson, Robinson 22 is, uh, facing capital murder charges, but his, uh, defense attorney now argued that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, ATF, and Explosive was unable to identify the bullet recovered at the autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr. Robinson. The defense team may

• 2:28:54Patrick Bet-David?

  now offer the ATF team analyst testimony as ex, uh, culpatory evidence. They set in a motion filed on Friday to push the preliminary hearing back at least six months. It also notes that DNA reports filed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and ATF will take time for the defense team. Uh, Vinny, thoughts?

• 2:29:12Speaker 03

  Well, and you said, so they said the ATF could not conclusively match the bullet fragment recovered in his autopsy from a .3006 rifle. I've been looking at, because I've shot .3006. Have you?

• 2:29:23Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, I've shot .3006.

• 2:29:24Speaker 03

  Just, just from audio, could we just take one step back? Have you, have you, you've heard it live?

• 2:29:29Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:29:29Speaker 03

  You heard that pshoom shot when Charlie was assassinated, God rest his soul? That's not the sound of a .3006 shooting. Can you, can, do you, do you agree to that?

• 2:29:39Speaker 07

  Well, what I, so here's what I'll agree to, that if I were close to the .3006, it would sound more concussive and you, you know, it's a, it's a strong round.

• 2:29:47Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:29:47Speaker 07

  At range, I don't know what acoustics is at, at, you know, 2,000 feet away.

• 2:29:51Speaker 03

  Well, was he at 200? Well, how many yards was he?

• 2:29:53Speaker 07

  From Charlie Kirk, he was at about 200 to 300 yards, but then where was that recorded? Maybe about 400 yards? So I don't know how acoustics would pick up. That's, that's something that's hard.

• 2:30:02Speaker 03

  So this basically just means that the prosecution no longer has the clean, I'm saying from a legal standpoint, right? Elon, they don't have that clean moment where it's like, here's the bullet, here's, you know, th- this is, this is the bullet, because they're saying a fragment, which, which kind of bothered me, Elon, because they were trying to, remember, they were trying to say, uh, who was it? Was it Andrew Kova? I don't want to say maybe a lot. I don't know. He has Superman bones and all that. Like, bro, there's from that shot, they should have, they should be able to recover the bullet of a 30 odd six, bro. I've shot bullets my entire life. When it hits bone or pat anything, the bullet just melts and becomes something else. But there's still a bullet intact. For them to say that, that it could not match, I get it because of the prosecution.

• 2:30:43Speaker 03

  They're looking for, I'm sorry, the defense is looking for anything, Elon, what is being said. But from the official narrative, you add that into everything else that had it. I'm not 100%. Did he shoot it? Did he not? I don't know. But where are you at with the fact that this, this piece of this bullet, they're saying they can't definitively match that it came from this, from the rifle?

• 2:31:04Speaker 07

  So I think this is where ballistics is so much more complicated than the average person realizes and there's, it depends. Was it a full metal jacket? Was it, you know, the bullet type matters here. And there's so, one thing about bullets that is guaranteed is that they're unpredictable.

• 2:31:20Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:31:20Speaker 07

  That's the one thing. So the reality here of this being like a big story, oh, they can't match it. The thing that really bothered me here was the, and this is the, probably the bigger stories, how the news reports these things did not match. That's not what they found. What they found is that it's not able to be used as evidence because it's too small a fragment. It's there, you can't match the striations and this. Great title for, for.

• 2:31:40Speaker 03

  Oh, of course.

• 2:31:41Speaker 07

  Everybody had the world going. It feeds this massive, massive, massive hatred for the wrong people and could lead to all types of problems down the road for the trial. That this is becoming the norm. I mean, this is done in virtually every big trial in JFK, the ballistics were pulled into question. Rittenhouse, Specter. As for the 30 odd six, I know everyone is saying this, everyone is saying, how did it, how did he not have an exit wound with a 30 odd six? Again, it can hit spine, it could change trajectory, it can head downward more into his body. I think there is, for me personally, I need to see evidence against the obvious evidence for me to believe in the conspiracy. I'm not saying it's wrong to investigate. I just think that this is a perfect example of things being taken out of context to create a narrative that is dangerous.

• 2:32:23Speaker 03

  And that this is a normal occurrence in court. Well, can you, with something this massive, as a public assassination as Charlie, could you brought up JFK? If you've read the court documents and if you've seen the movie JFK where they proved in court that a magic, if you think about it, the word magic means make believe. They proved in court that a magic bullet, and dude, they did the forensics of it. Rob, can you show that? They proved that that happened, that happened, and then mind you, mid, and this is what they proved, that in mid, once it came out of him, it reversed the bullet, which is impossible. Reverse course and came back and then landed in his leg. And we obviously. Obviously, that's impossible. That's, obviously, that's impossible, and guess what?

• 2:33:08Speaker 03

  They found the bullet, and Tom knows about this, in pristine condition. And that's what I'm saying, bro, when a bullet's coming out thousands of miles an hour and it's melt, it's, dude, it's so freaking hot. They obviously lied in this case. And what, what hats people, you know why people are so frustrated, Elon, why people ask so many questions? Is because everything else that the FBI and everybody told us to don't. Of course. Because, and I'm, and I'm, I'll give it right back to you. Think about just number one, just besides the bullet. George Zin standing up, a guy that just randomly shows up to terrorist attacks, 9/11, Boston bombing, stands up, says it's me, that's the decoy. He's the decoy. The very next day, oh, let me stop.

• 2:33:47Speaker 03

  Somebody from Turning Point, forgot his name, jumps up, grabs the footage, hands it off to somebody else and goes, "We just want to get it to the FBI." Another questionable thing, you don't touch the crime scene, where are the cops? Number two. Number three, they do construction. The next day, I called the freaking school a week later. And I go, "I'd like to talk to who, who made the decision?" She goes, "Hold on." Whispering in the back, "We can't talk about that. Who are you?" I go, "I'm just curious what..." Click, hung up on me. So people are going to, I understand 100% what you're saying, all the, all the ballistics and all this and all that. When you add all the other stuff, Elon, and then it's not, now this is coming up, people are like, "Wait a minute."

• 2:34:28Speaker 03

  We know where he was shot, allegedly, now they're showing all this other stuff, Elon, it doesn't even look. Like a 30 off 6.

• 2:34:34Speaker 07

  Yeah, so of course, I actually agree that 30 off 6 was a surprising round when they came out and said that because you you would but you did see a massive

• 2:34:41Speaker 03

  Hole.

• 2:34:42Speaker 07

  injury wound. It did look like a very concussive hard blast. What uh what I will say is that the burden of proof on the truth that people are now placing this distrust in the truth. I just hope that people maintain that same burden of proof for the conspiracy because it seems like now people distrust the truth and then the conspiracy comes along and with no proof whatsoever. Yeah.

• 2:35:01Speaker 03

  Right point. Yeah, because because the because the government, just like with Epstein.

• 2:35:06Speaker 07

  That's fine, but then question everything equally.

• 2:35:08Speaker 03

  I agree 100%. I agree.

• 2:35:10Speaker 07

  And I'll I'll just finish with this is that my big fear in all of this is after Charlie Kirk died, who was celebrating? Millions of leftists were celebrating and they have never been held accountable and it right away got distracted into a whole other thing. And so to me, that's the threat, even if, by the way, even if he didn't do it, let's say it comes out that he didn't do it. The millions of leftists who celebrated that and dressed up like him on Halloween with a bullet hole in their neck are a threat to my freedom.

• 2:35:35Patrick Bet-David?

  You're right. And by the way, I think that's plenty for us to finish right there and wrap up the podcast with Tom Adam. We're going to wrap it up here. Gang, for everybody that's watching, if this is one of your first or second moments watching Elon going back and forth. Elon is also on Manectum, feel free to Manectum directly and learn more about him, share his testimony today with the rest of us. Tom, thank you for your prayer. Gang, tomorrow, Lee Strobo, Case for Christ podcast goes live tomorrow. Have an incredible weekend, celebrating a very, very special day with your loved ones, with your family. And we will do this again on Monday. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

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