Rita Panahi: Inside Iran’s Regime Crisis | PBD #756

Patrick Bet-David sits down with Sky News Australia's Rita Panahi to discuss the escalating Iran war, the possible succession of Mojtaba Khamenei as Iran’s next Supreme Leader, and Iranian national soccer players seeking asylum in Australia amid the country’s growing political crisis. ------ 👍 LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE! Ⓜ️ MINNECT WITH RITA PAHANI: https://bit.ly/4ubZiC2 Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰KALSHI: ⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠ http://kalshi.com/pbd 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:14Patrick Bet-David?

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 0:18Speaker 01

  You are a one of one? My son's right there.

• 0:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so today we have the great Rita Panahi here with us. She runs a top 15 podcast show on YouTube, crushing it, absolutely getting hundreds of millions of views. And when she speaks, people listen and the timing of it is phenomenal with everything that's going on in Iran. So it's great to have you here with us.

• 0:45Speaker 02

  Got two Persians together.

• 0:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, we do.

• 0:47Speaker 02

  What are the chances?

• 0:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, we do. Now, online I looked at it, I said, is she born in Arkansas or Iran? But you're born in Arkansas.

• 0:54Speaker 02

  Pine Bluff, Arkansas, yeah.

• 0:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Pine Bluff, Arkansas.

• 0:56Speaker 02

  It's a long way from Tehran, isn't it? Yeah, my dad was in Arkansas studying. There's a lot of Iranians did pre-Islamic Revolution and went back after he finished the degree as expected. And then a couple of years later, the Islamic Revolution happened and the whole country, as you know, went backwards into the Dark Ages. So yeah, that's how we eventually ended up in Australia. We escaped Iran, it took some time and were granted asylum in Australia. So that's, yeah, that's the story.

• 1:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's interesting because we had a lot of relatives that they would either go to Europe to get the green card to come to the States or they'd go to Australia. There's a lot of Assyrians also in Australia.

• 1:39Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, absolutely. A lot of my family ended up in Europe, ended up in Sweden. So they've really set up there. They've got, well, to their third generation now.

• 1:52Speaker 02

  Much smaller number of Panahis in Iran, in Australia, I should say. Still a lot in Iran. So there's always so much worry about what's happening there because we've all got still family there who are trapped there. And I can't go back. I haven't been back since I left the country when I was eight or nine. And it would be madness to go back. You would be locked up and killed in record time, so.

• 2:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have memories?

• 2:18Speaker 02

  I do, I still remember. We originally...

• 2:23Speaker 02

  Lived in um a coastal town on the Caspian Sea, so that was ideally, cause I'm a beach. Like to this day.

• 2:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You live by Bandar Palavi or?

• 2:31Speaker 02

  Um, Shomal.

• 2:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Shomal, yeah, Shomal, Bandar Palavi, Rash, let's say.

• 2:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Where my mother's family is from.

• 2:37Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 2:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's a beautiful place.

• 2:40Speaker 02

  Stunning. Um, so that's my earliest memories and then we moved to Tehran and I've obviously have memories there and we started school there. That was the first time I was forced into the hijab because of course you have to wear a hijab to to go to school, even if you're a four, five year old girl, you have to be covered. Um, and that's where we are. We're taught to chant Death to America at assembly every morning. So, yeah, those memories I have, but um. Happier memories in Australia was around nineteen eighty four, we moved to Australia.

• 3:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Eighty four, you moved to Australia?

• 3:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So I was born in Iran and I'm in US now. You were born in Arkansas, but you lived in Iran for eight, nine years.

• 3:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And then you moved to Australia. What do you see? What do you see from Iran that maybe the rest of the world doesn't see? When people say, why should we mind, why should we deal with Iran? Who cares about them? Australia is seven thousand miles away.

• 3:38Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 3:38Patrick Bet-David?

  US is seven thousand miles away from Iran. We shouldn't worry about Iran. Why is this issue so important?

• 3:45Speaker 02

  Look, we should worry about Iran on a number of fronts. I can understand the America first absolutes to say, this isn't, this war, this conflict isn't in our interest. It's not an immediate danger. I get it and I completely sympathize because we have, say, we, America, cause I still see myself also as American. I'm still a US citizen. Um, we do have been involved in these forever wars that have cost so much, so much human life, so much. Money that could be better spent here. So I can clearly get that. But Iran is different to Iraq and Syria and Libya and some of the other

• 4:29Speaker 02

  regimes that have tried to be, the US has been involved in overturning. One, Iranians sponsor terrorism, as we know. So it touches everybody that have had plots to kill our president. So I would have thought that would be a fairly good reason to to take note of what they're doing. But also, the Iranian people had this thrust upon them. I think the overwhelming majority of Iranians want to be done with this regime. Iranians are a very different. It's it's very different to the rest of the Arab world. And it's something I think Americans have trouble understanding because they just look at the Middle East as one big

• 5:11Speaker 02

  region where, you know, and it's not. Iranians are Persians, they're not Arabs. They have a history that predates

• 5:22Speaker 02

  Islam by some some distance. And and those traditions and those belief systems have withstood so much, including the Islamic Revolution. So I think given the chance, a free Iran would be a wonderful ally for the West. And I think it serves as an example of what can happen when you allow

• 5:47Speaker 02

  forces that are anti-West to take hold. I think we're seeing signs of it in Europe. We're seeing signs of it right here. And we've got this ugly, unholy alliance between the Islamists and the leftists, whether you want to call them communists, socialists, or just the left in general. That share nothing in common with Islamists, other than their hate of Republicans, conservatives, Western civilization. But in Iran, they got together and they overthrew the government and took hold in nineteen seventy nine. And they've been in power for forty seven years. And I think there's just a lot of lessons to be learnt out of Iran, which

• 6:28Speaker 02

  particularly noteworthy today in the West. And the left should realise that though they helped the Islamists gain power in Iran, what happened? As soon as the Islamists took took power, they rounded up all the leftists and killed them.

• 6:46Speaker 02

  It's not a happy ending in this union. One side's gonna prevail and it's not gonna be the leftists. So I really, oh, makes me crazy to see even now when you've got people out there protesting, saying free Iran, free Iran from what? The regime has been absolutely brutal in oppressing the people there. Why weren't you marching a month ago or two weeks ago when they were gunning down people in the streets, gunning down people in hospitals recovering from injuries they had in the protests? So I've got very little patience for um the left in this country and in Australia,

• 7:28Speaker 02

  who are consistently on the wrong side of history and and and they do it from a position of complete ignorance of what's to come. So yeah, that was a very long answer to your question, but I think there's lessons to be learnt out of Iran, really important lessons that if you know history, maybe you won't be doomed to repeat it.

• 7:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's it's interesting to see not only the leftists, I mean, there's even some people uh on the woke right that are saying, you know, what are they doing wrong? What's the big deal with what's taking place there? It's a very interesting uh thing taking place on which groups are agreeing with each other in Iran, especially in US and I'm sure it's happened in Australia as well. Were leftists losing it? Do you think you'll ever run out of content with your show?

• 8:14Speaker 02

  No, this is the thing. I mean, I I mock the left because they're very mock-worthy, but there is no shortage of content. The left are determined to be crazy, that determined to be crazier than the next person. And whether it's mainstream left, like, you know, the ladies of The View or your host on MSNBC, MSNBC, whatever they call themselves, um or the people who are just posting their rants on on TikTok or Instagram.

• 8:47Speaker 02

  I I could do that show ten times the length and I'd still have material left over.

• 8:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think you're ever running out of content.

• 8:53Speaker 02

  You will never, and you know what, there's so many people who don't touch it because the comics are so, almost all of them, not all of them, but the great majority are so left and so gutless, they don't want to touch that material. And it's like, how much more crazy does your site have to be for you to use some of that material with such rich content? So, yeah, no, I, that's, and I think mockery is a important tool. I really do. I think the right needs to use mockery a lot more. It's a very powerful way to put across the point. And when the left give you so much to work with, why wouldn't you do it?

• 9:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, by the way, there's a lot of guys that are doing it now and it's, it's working out.

• 9:40Speaker 02

  The good ones.

• 9:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, the good ones. There's a lot of, we have a guy Vincent O'Shaughnessy who makes clips, uh, making fun of Newsom and they always go viral. He is so good at mocking Newsom, he does a great job at it. But go, going back to this, uh, Australia right now, the, the soccer, the Iranian women

• 9:57Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 9:58Patrick Bet-David?

  soccer team that's over there, right? We've seen the clips where they, you know, didn't, uh, uh, uh, sing the Iranian national anthem that was taking place. And then all of a sudden, they are about to go back home. This is the footage that we've all seen. I'm sure you've seen this many times. And so you're seeing this and then Iranian state TV comes out after not performing, you know, not, uh, uh, following the song. Uh, Rob, if you can go back to the other one with Iranian state TV, how he reacted to it. This is how, this is a guy that's for Iranian state TV and here's what he had to say right after seeing this.

• 10:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You should punish traitors harder during war.

• 10:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Whoever takes one wrong step against the country during war, you have to respond to them harder.

• 10:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to respond harshly.

• 10:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Or mere protest. Not singing is the highest order of treason.

• 11:04Speaker 03

  هم مردم هم مسؤولین با اینا بونانه

• 11:07Patrick Bet-David?

  هم مردم هم مسؤولین با اینا بونانه You can pause it right there. You get the idea what they're saying, right? And now, while they were leaving, you know, people were standing protesters and from the bus, not allowing them to leave, uh, you know, not allowing them to go back to the country. The president, Trump, asked Australia to give them asylum, which I believe the prime minister Albanese gave them.

• 11:29Speaker 02

  Well, five, from what I understand, the latest information is, five have sought asylum and been granted asylum, and they already have pictures now with, um, the relevant minister. And interestingly, in the picture, every single woman had the hijab off. So that just shows you, yes, off, straight away. Because this is something that's forced upon women. You know, you see some women in the West wearing the hijab, and that always kind of gets me curious about, uh, why you'd want to be in the West if you are that devout. There's many Muslim majority countries. But all five had their hijabs off.

• 12:11Speaker 02

  The, the, the fear is that the rest of the women who might be wanting to seek asylum do not have the opportunity because their handlers have really kept them away from anybody. And so I think there were people at the bus shouting to them in, in Persian, saying, "Here we go, there's the five ladies with the hijabs off." Um, yeah, so there, there were people shouting at them in Persian, telling them you can seek asylum, do this, giving them instructions. But they were bundled off to the airport. That flight went to Sydney, and then in Sydney, they're due to take an international flight back. So that's where I'm hoping that authorities intervene

• 12:56Speaker 02

  and speak to these women one-on-one without their entourage, who is going to be controlling them and preventing them from speaking freely. Because I can't imagine... Any of them not wanting to seek asylum. Obviously, some might have children at home. Families, there's even talk about some of their families already being targeted back in Iran. So maybe they're eager to get back to to try to help there and explain themselves. But um I I really do fear for these girls going back. What's gonna happen to them? Uh you know, the regime, they're unhinged. They're brutal, they're unhinged. And it doesn't bear thinking about what could happen to these girls.

• 13:38Speaker 02

  So I'm hoping that the rest of them get asylum before um yeah, before they're forced to leave.

• 13:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, the fear becomes, you know, they'll come out if if you know their tactics. What are some things that could happen? They would target the family.

• 13:54Speaker 02

  Families first, um particularly if they have children. But, you know, women this age, they would have parents, they would have grandparents. And can you just imagine in at any time in Iran being in the crosshairs of the regime? Because once they've got you in their sights, it's very difficult to to have any sort of normality in your life. If you're deemed some sort of collaborator with the enemy. So um that that would be the great fear. And the fear is if they go back, what will happen to them? Will they be tortured into confessing to something? Will they be locked up? Will they be assaulted?

• 14:34Speaker 02

  Or I'm almost the best case scenario is they'll be forced to mouth some propaganda. That will get let them off the hook, and that's the best you can hope for. So this is pretty pretty grim.

• 14:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know who the lady was on the sideline that had a smile on her face with her arms across? Was she someone's mother?

• 14:54Speaker 02

  That I can't tell you. I don't know. I don't know if she's a team official or if she is a um. If she's a yeah, related.

• 15:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Someone's mother?

• 15:03Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 15:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, is there a way to find out who she is? I'll see. Yeah, I'm curious to know who she is, because if she's smiling, you know what that look to me is? That's a look of somebody that's supporting. The girls not singing the national anthem that she may have been a part of the decision because why would she be smiling like that?

• 15:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And why would they go to her? Is she someone's mother? Is she a head coach? Is she a general manager? Is she a decision maker? What's gonna happen to her? Did she go back to Iran? Because she's got her job on, but not fully. She's showing some of her hair, so I'm curious to know who she is. Because if this is a collective decision that was made, um,

• 15:50Patrick Bet-David?

  is that the same lady?

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• 16:38Speaker 06

  I don't think so. I'm not sure.

• 16:40Speaker 02

  Hard to tell from that.

• 16:41Speaker 06

  That's the head coach.

• 16:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Hard to tell from this angle.

• 16:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's...

• 16:47Patrick Bet-David?

  It looks like they were united.

• 16:49Speaker 02

  The team certainly looked united. Those out on the field looked united. That is her. She's the head coach. And there was all sorts of talk in Australia because we've had, for several weeks now, a major story be this scandal with our government bringing back the ISIS brides, as they're called. So these are women who left Australia, often young women, very young women, to travel to the caliphate to marry Islamic State fighters. And now they've had children over there. So the children are obviously innocent, but the majority of Australians do not want these women back into the country.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  Regardless of whether they're citizens or not, they chose to go and join this brutal, backward, sadistic death cult. And God knows what sort of atrocities they themselves committed over there when Islamic State ran the caliphate and now that the caliphate's fallen, they want to come back to Australia. Well, get stuffed. We don't want you back. But the government is bending over backwards, the Labor government, to to bring them back. So when this issue happened and you've got these women taking this brave stand and they weren't being helped, um, you know, it's like, what, we want the ISIS brides back, but we don't want to grant asylum to

• 18:16Speaker 02

  these women. So, yeah, I think the government felt the heat and has now um granted asylum very quickly to those first five. But yeah, it remains to be seen if more can be, more can be saved. And of course, President Trump sent that message that was very powerful, um, calling on the Australian government to take action and saying, if you don't,

• 18:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I will.

• 18:38Speaker 02

  We will do it. Yeah.

• 18:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it was impressive to see that taking place. I thought it was very honorable and great timing and God willing, all these girls will be fine and their families will be fine as well as they're going through this. Now, with Khamenei, when the war happened, within 24 hours, they killed almost everybody, right? And I believe even they injured Mohtab, uh, the son of Khamenei, who is now the new prime minister. I heard they injured him as well. And you had some real nice, uh, sweet, uh, this is probably the sweetest I've seen you. Here's what you had to say to Khamenei. I thought it was very sentimental, Rob, if you want to play this clip, go for it.

• 19:14Speaker 02

  I'll clip this editorial with this message to the late Supreme Leader. Khakbe saret besuz tu jahanam. Rowan.

• 19:27Speaker 06

  Couldn't have put it better myself, Freetha Jan.

• 19:28Speaker 02

  A little bit of gibberish, but.

• 19:30Speaker 06

  I don't have any time for that, that's it.

• 19:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Translation, you're amazing. May you rest in peace. No, in other words.

• 19:38Speaker 02

  Cuddles.

• 19:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You son of a burning hell and Khakbe saret, we said it's what, dirt over your head, right?

• 19:45Speaker 02

  Dirt on your head. But essentially, it's a, it's a message of, uh, you should feel deep shame. But yeah, Persian sayings are like that. When you do the literal translation, it just seems ridiculous. Killers, but he means yeah, Hukbak Versarad means dirt on your head. Padar Sag means really your father's a dog.

• 20:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Not your mom.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  Yes, it's not exactly son of a bitch, but it's kind of, you know. And burning hell is universal.

• 20:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So why, why do you feel that way about Khamenei? Why do you feel?

• 20:14Speaker 02

  Well, because it's destroyed hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of lives. I mean, it's not just the people who were slaughtered. People tortured, people killed for political dissent, but the the lives that have been robbed, you know, the Islamic Revolution sent the country back, you know, Iran was relatively modern, sec- secular. You look at the pictures of my mum, um, be the same with your family, they look like they were in any European or any American city, you know, my mum's pictures, the last ones of her before the Islamic Revolution. Beehive hair and miniskirts and, you know, and, and then you have this

• 20:57Speaker 02

  uh Islamist takeover and women are second-class citizens, they're forced to cover up. So that's a very visible sign, but obviously the oppression is far more broad than that.

• 21:12Speaker 02

  Just freedoms gone, you can get stoned to death for adultery, for witchcraft, for leaving the religion, for blasphemy. I mean, it's just madness to see that happen to a country like Iran, which means it can happen anywhere. And that's why I think so many people who have fled those sorts of countries are super sensitive to signs of it in the West. Because if you've already escaped it once, you don't want to be escaping it again.

• 21:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so.

• 21:45Patrick Bet-David?

  People will see this and they'll say, okay, so then why have they stayed in power for forty seven years? If it's so evil, why is it still in power for forty seven years? When you think about the Shah after Mossadegh, when they came in, the MI6 and the CIA was involved and we've all heard about, I think it was called Operation Ajax, if I'm not mistaken, and Mossadegh went and lived in a village all by himself. And then the Shah came for twenty six years and Iran was great, was doing great. You know, people would go to Iran, they would travel there vacation. So he could only hold it together for twenty six years, but these guys have held it together for forty seven year. How?

• 22:22Speaker 02

  Well, because they are so brutal. I just saw recently the protests that occurred. And they just went out and gunned down people, they killed thousands. So as fed up as the population is, it takes a lot to take to the streets, knowing you could be shot dead, you could be locked up, your family targeted. And people still showed up night after night despite the mass slaughter. So you're going out there with a real possibility that you're going to die or you're going to have some catastrophic outcome in your life. So that takes a lot, that takes a lot.

• 23:02Speaker 02

  I mean, none of us living under those sorts of conditions could say for it for sure, whether we'd be out on the streets knowing that threat. So that's what they do. We've had major uprisings over that forty seven years, particularly the last couple of decades. And each time they have just stomped them out with brutal force.

• 23:27Speaker 02

  And not just killing protesters as they're protesting, it's what comes after, the arrests, the quick trials and then.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  Um. The death sentences, it it I mean, all of that has such a psychological impact on the population. Frankly, I'm surprised there are as many uprisings as there are, given how brutal the the reaction is, yeah.

• 23:51Patrick Bet-David?

  You're surprised because people are willing to put their life on the line?

• 23:54Speaker 02

  You are putting your life on the line, everything you've worked for, lived for, your family, everything you've built. You know, if you go out on the street, not only could you be killed then and there, but your entire life could be destroyed. If you're arrested, the the consequences are catastrophic for you and your family. So it takes a lot, it takes a lot to protest in a country like Iran. It's not like here, where you've got these blue-haired freaks who think they're oppressed and living under fascism, you know, going out with their professionally made signs every week with some different cause. I mean, that takes zero courage. What we see in Iran, that's real courage. And what

• 24:35Speaker 02

  I absolutely loathe, they are these blue-haired freaks who supposedly care about oppression and women's rights and um all the things they supposedly care about, all the humanitarian positions they they say they take. Never do they protest for people in Iran. Never do they protest for the women in Iran. Uh. Even when these uprisings have been female-led, the feminists here are quiet, absolutely cowardly, gutless, principled. I I just have no time for it. I I absolutely disgusted by the modern feminist movement that have abandoned women living under Sharia law.

• 25:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Why is that, though? Because you'll see them come out, and I'm curious to know what you'll say on this. You'll see them come out and say, free Palestine.

• 25:25Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 25:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Right? You'll see them come out doing that. But when it comes on to the women and you see the stats of, you know, uh, uh, three thou- thirty thousand people in Iran, they killed their own people, up to a hundred thousand people. But they'll say, how do you know that? How do you know that?

• 25:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, suddenly they wanna.

• 25:40Patrick Bet-David?

  But if Hamas reports that sixty seven thousand people were killed, Palestinians killed, no, that has to be true. So how do you how? Why do you think they side? With free Palestine, but they don't side with Iranian women right now that are being killed, raped and destroyed by their own government. Why do you think that is? How does that happen?

• 25:59Speaker 02

  Because the feminist movement a long time ago seized to be about the rights of women. Even when you look at local issues, the feminist movement does not stand with women who are trying to protect female-only spaces, female-only sports. They're on the other side. It is a leftist movement that is anti-Western civilization. That's what it has morphed into sadly. And so they're comfortable being with Palestine, but they can't stand with the women living under Sharia law in Iran because they are on the same side as the mullahs, as crazy as that sounds. There is this unholy alliance between the left and

• 26:42Speaker 02

  Islamists, and the feminist movement is a part of that leftist movement. So it doesn't make sense because the Islamists and the broad leftist movement share very little in common. Their values are so different apart from the fact that they've got shared enemies on the right. Now, whether you look at that as the center-right, the right-wing, Republicans, Western civilizations, those who want to protect Western values. And I think we are in a civilizational war, and that's where the sides have come down. And it happens continuously.

• 27:24Speaker 02

  It's not isolated with Iran. The feminist movement will never side with women who are genuinely oppressed, even in their own countries. I never hear members of the feminist movement talking about the sharp rise in things like female genital mutilation in the West, because it's a problem in the West that sometimes send their girls back to certain countries, typically in Africa, to undergo that procedure, and they come back. And we now have even in Melbourne, clinics that are devoted to dealing with the problems of FGM, because you have all sorts of issues, childbirth and post childbirth. So.

• 28:07Speaker 02

  You know, we've got that craziness happening in the West, that absolute depravity in my mind. And the feminists are reluctant to talk about it because they're more worried about Islamophobia. They're worried if they talk about that, it will say people being critical of Islam and, and is being Islamophobic. I mean, really.

• 28:27Patrick Bet-David?

  So then who is imposing that level of power and fear for people to line up that quickly? And be afraid of criticizing Islamophobia? Who's bringing that fear then? Is it mainstream? Is it political groups? Is it propagandas? What, what would it be?

• 28:42Speaker 02

  Well, that sort of, that sort of fear of being seen as Islamophobic has been so normalized. And so we just had one in the last few days, a Islamist attack in New York. And straight away, the talk was about, oh, well, we can't have Islamophobia. And what about the other side? Who, I think Kathy Hochul came out and condemned both sides. She actually did the both sides argument. And it's like, really? There's, there's a literal Islamist attack and your concern is about the rise in Islamophobia? It's, yeah.

• 29:21Speaker 02

  And this is something that the great Hitch warned about, that they will take away your right to criticize. They will take away your right to be critical of even the extremes of Islamism. Um, and that's what we're talking about. We're talking about the extremes that are dangerous, that, that are not compatible with Western values. They are not. You cannot coexist with Islamism and Western values. Free speech, equal rights. You can't have that if, if, if you're also going to be tolerant of Islamism.

• 29:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Why are people flirting with that idea? That it could possibly happen? Why are they saying, poor these guys, you know? What's wrong with you? You don't have a heart. Take some asylum, you know, take some of these political refugees.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  I don't think they think it can happen to them. I don't think it, they think it will touch their lives. I genuinely don't. That's why you see these gays for Palestine or LGBT, gays for Gaza. I mean. They don't understand what the end result of that is. They don't understand that those people loathe them with a passion. Um, and what was I think Molenbeek in Belgium is a very good example of that, you know, it's it became so tolerant that all the gays had to move out, the women didn't feel safe walking in the streets because uh that mindset came

• 30:50Speaker 02

  in that yeah, you have to be covered up. Uh, you you if you're overtly gay, you're probably going to be targeted in the streets. So Molenbeek, I think, is known as the um the terra capital of of Europe and it's a um it's a good lesson on what not to do and how you don't appease the worst of the worst. You you actually stand with your values. And that's something I've always been big on and something that people always get triggered about, but all cultures are not equal. And I think we should be free to say that without fear of people having little meltdowns. All cultures aren't equal and anyone who pretends

• 31:32Speaker 02

  otherwise is either dumb or lying. There are no other options. Yeah, Molenbeek is um an experience. Jihadist capital of Europe.

• 31:43Patrick Bet-David?

  That's that's wild. And how did this happen? How did it become the jihadist capital of?

• 31:47Speaker 02

  I think because it was a culture of appeasement that would just went out of their way to appease a certain population and appeasement just emboldens the extremists. You don't appease, you welcome people, but you expect from them assimilation. If you come into the West, then you assimilate with Western values. If you don't want to assimilate with the Western values, then there are a number of Muslim countries you can move to. There's a lot of countries you can move to that share your values, but um you can bring your uh elements of your culture that are compatible. You can bring all the wonderful foods and.

• 32:29Speaker 02

  Music and dance, but when we're talking about values, if you don't believe that women are equal to men, don't come to the West. If you don't think people have the right to free speech and say things that may offend you, don't come to the West. I think these are fairly simple concepts.

• 32:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I agree. The question becomes, um, is it too late? The question is, will the leaders have a backbone to fight this out? Because propaganda is going to be able to confuse people so much to the point of it's not fair, leave them alone, Islamophobia, what's wrong with Mamdani? The people voted for him for New York City. That's what the people want. Why are you getting, you, you said it's free election, you said freedom of religion. And then that same system produces a Mamdani, so.

• 33:15Speaker 02

  This is, some people are gonna learn the hard way. That's the, that's the problem. Some people.

• 33:22Patrick Bet-David?

  New York City, though.

• 33:23Speaker 02

  New York City. Good luck to you. Good luck to you.

• 33:27Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about Mamdani?

• 33:29Speaker 02

  I think he's a very savvy Islamist. I could be wrong, maybe he's not that extreme, but to me, he's got that permanent smile fixed on his face. It looks all very friendly and safe and someone he could be at a dinner party with. But then you look at some of the things he has said, some of the opinions he tolerates. Look at who he shares his bed with, what she was liking about post October seven, some of the tweets she was liking.

• 34:02Speaker 02

  I mean, what is, what is the mindset there? What, what, what, what are they actually thinking? I mean, to like something like that to me is

• 34:14Speaker 02

  deeply disturbing. So, and, and, and for him to be fairly comfortable with it, he obviously is, is married to her. Uh, but even some of the things he has said over the years, I know he tried to moderate his position on law enforcement and a few other things during the election campaign, but. Yeah, good luck. Good luck, New York. You wanted it, you got it.

• 34:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 34:34Speaker 02

  What do they say? Uh, you F around and you find out. They're gonna be in the find out component of that equation.

• 34:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I think they're going through it right now.

• 34:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Because they're finding out what's happening with taxes, all the free promises that he made. But going back to Iran.

• 34:48Speaker 02

  Why would you like tweets like this? Why?

• 34:50Patrick Bet-David?

  That's his wife.

• 34:51Speaker 02

  That's his wife. This is what I'm saying. It's not some staffer that he's never met, that you know is part of a big team. This is a woman who shares his bed every night, and that's how she thinks.

• 35:01Patrick Bet-David?

  That's one of them. Okay, if you go to the other one, there's a few of them. This is the next one.

• 35:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, great.

• 35:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Intentionally kept in poverty, blockade, occupation, often heavy military attack over half of the population of Gaza are children. She likes that post, free Palestine, and there's a couple of them if you go lower. Uh, this next one, resist apartheid, occupation, oppression. She liked this one. So some people may say the previous one, what's wrong with defending for kids? But then she's making it very clear what her positions are. This is a mayor of the most powerful city in America, New York City. That's his wife.

• 35:35Speaker 02

  Yep. Good luck. Good luck. And also, he's completely economically illiterate. I mean, you saw what he was suggesting. So never mind the ideological belief system. His commie ways, I mean, you're, you're a savvy investor. Would you be investing in real estate in New York right now or anything else?

• 35:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Absolutely not. Nowhere near where he's at. And, and people are leaving as well. I mean, they're, they're leaving in the droves. We saw this happen into California. California during COVID lost a trillion dollars of wealth, where people left. But they just recently, a number came out, in the last ninety days, California's lost another trillion dollars of wealth. When they announced, announced the wealth tax that, uh, They're they're leaving there and soon the same thing's gonna be happening to New York and they'll be going to different markets. But the concern is, this is this is getting to a point where the good thing about what's going on with Iran right now, everything is front and center. So you have to ask yourself, you either believe that the Iranian regime killed its people or you don't.

• 36:41Patrick Bet-David?

  If you do, what do you think about that country? Do they stay in power? Do they still stay the way they are? I want to ask you this question. Your parents, what do your mom and dad say right now? I mean, I'm assuming your parents lived in Iran, right?

• 36:55Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, they were born there, they grew up there. Um, they were away for a few short years whilst my dad was studying, um, but then they went back and then the Islamic Revolution happened, so.

• 37:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Were they pro Shah? Were they pro Khomeini?

• 37:09Speaker 02

  They were pro Shah, so that was one of the reasons why they were terrified because um, my mom was the head midwife at at at a hospital and she was a bit of a glamour in her day, so when the royal family visited, she was responsible for showing them around. So there was a lot of footage of her and pictures of her with the with the queen with um, and.

• 37:34Patrick Bet-David?

  That's trouble.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  And that's trouble. I remember them burning the photos, um, but.

• 37:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Your parents burning the photos?

• 37:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, the ones we had in our own possession, but the photos out there, so that's what they were fearful of. And then I remember there were just so many nights where um, we thought that the the police were uh, coming to question, because they'd questioned family members, they'd arrested family members, that's her at the front, yeah. So they would then um, they would uh, not go home. I remember like parking up the road and just like looking at the looking at the house, seeing if there's people in there, people going there, people wanting to approach it. So it was um, yeah, that was.

• 38:23Speaker 02

  That there's some of the memories I have there, but obviously I don't remember everything because I was I was quite young. But yeah, they were definitely pro pro the Shah and and that was one of the big fears of of what would happen to them.

• 38:36Patrick Bet-David?

  What are they saying today?

• 38:38Speaker 02

  Look, they're hopeful, um but they're also not counting on the regime being defeated because it's on its knees. It's as weak as it's been in forty seven years. But let's just say the campaign finishes and and and and the US Israel operation is concluded. It's sent up to the Iranian people to get rid of the last remnants of this regime. And what if they just come out? And just crack down on them as they have and and they hold on to power for however more years. So I don't know, I still have that fear as well, but um

• 39:21Speaker 02

  I think it's now more likely that the regime will go, which is the first time in my life I've thought. I just never thought it would happen in my lifetime, genuinely. I thought I'll never I'll never be able to go back. I'll never be able to take my son there. So to do that would be a dream.

• 39:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I think you and I both. I got four kids that I want to take them and show them. You know, the streets I was raised in, the the park I used to go to in Iran, Park Yashan Shahi and Bandar Palabi Shomal, which is where my mother's family is from and how beautiful it was and

• 39:55Speaker 02

  All the historic sites do it. Iran has got such incredible history and architecture and um I've been to Israel a couple of times and um it's probably the most impressive uh sites that I've seen uh in anywhere in the world, but Iran actually has sites that rival it and and the history there is just so rich and and and yeah, it would be absolute dream to take my son there and show him that.

• 40:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So yesterday I was watching a clip by uh uh Newt Gingrich and he said there's three things that Trump has to be worried about. And he just straight went to it and he said, number one, you can't keep Strait of Hormuz closed. It has to be opened, right? If you keep it closed, other people feel the pain, it's going to be a problem for you. You they're all going to side against you. So you have to find a way to keep Strait of Hormuz open. Number two, he said, what are you gonna do with the 200,000 IRGC members in the military that are loyalists to the IRGC that know there is no life after the fall? So if Iran falls, what do they do next? You know, you're not gonna give them a job, so what are you gonna kill all of them? And then number three is, how do you give power to the 85 million, 90 million Iranians that don't have weapons, they don't have Second Amendment, they don't have a way to protect themselves?

• 41:08Patrick Bet-David?

  So they're worried about coming out because what if they kill my son? What if they'll kill my daughter? That's a real fear. So how do you deal with that? What do you actually think is gonna end up happening?

• 41:19Speaker 02

  This is the problem. I think the 200,000 you mentioned, there's gonna be a reckoning. I know President Trump has said, put down your arms, stop killing your people, and you'll be essentially given amnesty, but...

• 41:32Patrick Bet-David?

  What does that even mean?

• 41:33Speaker 02

  It's not gonna be that simple. The Iranian people who've seen their kids slaughtered and tortured, and their girls raped by these animals, aren't gonna just be saying, okay, clean slate, we're all friends, and let's just move on with a liberated Iran. There's gonna be, yeah, I think there's gonna be some unrest, to put it lightly, for some time to come. And I think we just have to have an appetite for that, because it's just gonna happen. You can't have 47 years of oppression and all the killing and torture that's happened, and not have some sort of a reckoning.

• 42:11Speaker 02

  So that's, yeah, ideally, well, not ideally, but in a, in a simple world, you would just have those goons look at the numbers, see that things have changed, and lay down their arms. And the country can, you know, then decide what they want to be. Does that's want to be a monarchy? Does it wanna be a republic? What sort of democracy wants to have? But I think...

• 42:45Speaker 02

  There's gonna be a bit of pain before that.

• 42:47Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, you obviously have a very big fanbase. You know, when a video went out that you're gonna be on, everybody's like, "Oh my god, I love Rita. I love Rita, she's amazing."

• 42:55Speaker 02

  I wish I was a little high-energy for you. You know what, I've been sick, so that's why I'm a little bit, I need some caffeine, I'm gonna percut.

• 43:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You want some coffee?

• 43:02Speaker 02

  Yes, get me some coffee.

• 43:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you guys get her some coffee? Yeah, but for some of you that are watching or that are fans, she's officially on Manek. So if you wanna Manek her and ask her questions, you can. I think her QR code's gonna be somewhere below here. But let me ask you, when it comes down to political parties in Iran, who are you? Are they reaching out to you? Are they saying, "Hey, support us here. If he falls, here's who we'd like." I'm sure you hear Reza Palavi's name's being dropped, and then you heard the Kurds saying, "We won't support Reza Palavi." Then, you know, you hear saying, "Well, what about the MEK?" You'll hear all these guys. And then, when you go to the State Department and you talk to people in the State Department, some Iranians that work directly with Marco Rubio, and you'll say, "Look, it has to be somebody from the inside. It can't be somebody from the outside.

• 43:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Somebody from the outside can play a role, but it can't be somebody from the outside." What do you like? Who's gonna be the replacement if IRGC goes?

• 43:58Speaker 02

  Look, I think there is a big movement to have Palavi back, to have Reza Palavi, and have him as an interim measure until they have elections. But I actually don't have a firm dog in this race. People always accuse me of being on this side or that side. I just talk to everybody. So I've interviewed everyone, pretty much, that you've talked about, representatives from each camp.

• 44:28Speaker 02

  I wouldn't, I'd be comfortable with the Crown Prince going back and having perhaps a six-to-12-month period where it's determined how these elections are gonna be held, what's the preferred model, and then go on from that. So I think even in Iran, from what you hear and just from talking to people...

• 44:55Speaker 02

  They seem to be open to that. That seems to be something that there is a real. I don't know, it could just be sentimentality. It's the last rule that they knew that was not hideous. So, yeah, I'm very comfortable with that. And I know, I know some people say, you know, you can't go in there and install a prince. That's just another form of oppression, but it will be for a short period of time until the people have their say. And if they want more of that, they can have more of that. So. Um, yeah, I'm comfortable with that model. I, I just wanna get rid of this Islamist regime. I mean, Iran has gone through this, the Persian Empire, what was it, the seventh century, that's the first time Islam

• 45:37Speaker 02

  um, took, took hold and, and um, nineteen seventy nine, forty seven years, that's a long time. It's a long time to be oppressed. So I think the people are ready. I'm comfortable with that. What about you? Are you comfortable with six to twelve months?

• 45:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Meaning what? Transitional of what he does?

• 45:57Speaker 02

  To have him in there as, as, as a figure until the details are determined. Cause you can't have an election, you know, overnight.

• 46:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, there's two things, you know, uh, uh, wha- what I think is irrelevant because one is the Iranian people, they want him, that's one. Two, uh, you know, the, the US, if they're gonna go in and do what they did to Venezuela, you know, you have to be able to make sure you win him over, Trump over. So if you don't win him over, what is he gonna be doing? He said the other day that he says he keeps repeating himself, that Reza Pahlavi is a nice guy. But, uh, you know, we need somebody from the inside. I don't want somebody from the outside. I don't know if you saw him say this or not. He said this two weeks.

• 46:40Speaker 02

  The problem is if you're on the inside and you're not part of, part of the regime or controlled opposition, you're probably in jail. That's my problem with someone on the inside. I know someone on the inside is smoother initially, but. I just want to be comfortable with anyone from this regime, even on the outskirts of it being being the next leader.

• 47:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I think I think he definitely has a place, a role to play. I've been very critical of him.

• 47:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Many, many times because he's had forty seven years to do it. And this is the first time I've seen him play offense the way he finally is, which is good. Uh, and I think a big part of it is, one, Iranian people are rising up and two, Trump being in power. If it wasn't Trump, he wouldn't be able to do what he's doing.

• 47:27Speaker 02

  Oh, hell no. If it wasn't Trump in power, none of this would be happening. Let's be honest. None of this would hap- be happening. I mean, this is a

• 47:39Speaker 02

  th- this is a leader unlike any we have seen and perhaps will see. I mean, what he has been able to achieve in almost all corners of the world, his foreign policy achievements. He does not get credit for that, which I know probably bothers him, but really this is

• 47:58Speaker 02

  huge achievements. We're talking about the fall of the Berlin Wall, levels of change here. This is monumental. So, and it would not be happening if it wasn't for President Trump. There's zero doubt about that. I mean, it's not a day I don't think about that incident in Butler and that turning of the head in the last millisecond and how different not just America, but how different the world would be if that didn't happen, if that miracle, he didn't just turn his head that last millisecond. Um, it's it blows my mi- blows my mind is the wrong expression. Every day, every day I think about

• 48:42Speaker 02

  what would the world look like with Kamala or some other Impostor in the White House. Yeah. You wouldn't have Venezuela, you wouldn't have Iran, you wouldn't have all the peace deals that have happened. You wouldn't have now Cuba. The Cubans are crying out to be next. Um, and I think they will be.

• 49:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I think that's gonna be an easier one, though. I don't think that's gonna be a tough one, because.

• 49:05Speaker 02

  They're already on their knees. They don't need to be bombed.

• 49:07Patrick Bet-David?

  They used to be, they used to have protection from Soviet Union, from USSR, but who protects Cuba today? I don't even know who protects it. Cuba should be a knock on the door. It should be, hey, guys, you're officially the new Puerto Rico.

• 49:20Speaker 02

  Out, you go.

• 49:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Out, let's build some hotels. Let's get tourism going. Communism is out. Uh, what do you, what do you think is a bigger thing that they fought against? Because back in the days, my mother, my mother's side, many of the members, they were part of the two-day party. I don't know if you remember the two-day party or not in Iran. It was a communist party in Iran. That's where a lot of, if you ask your mother, she'll tell you about it. Two-day party was, these are guys that were the communists, you know, they loved what Stalin, Lenin, you know, Karl Marx, this was their Bible, two-day party of Iran. And there was a fear of communism getting bigger to spread around the world and possibly making it to the countries, you know, to the States, to US,

• 50:04Patrick Bet-David?

  to other places and in schools, they got into universities. They did such a great job going and brainwashing American kids in schools. No, it is the most noble thing. Professors all started giving the kids, you should read Communist Manifesto, you should read Communist Manifesto. And then fast forward today, Rob, how big is the, how many members of the Communist Party are there in America right now? If you, if you do Communist Party membership in US,

• 50:34Patrick Bet-David?

  uh, seventy thousand members, uh, no, that's nineteen thirties. They were peaking. If you go to charts, twenty thousand, right there. Twenty thousand membership twenty twenty-four. Okay, can you ask, when was the peak? 1941, so go back to that right there, Rob, where you were at. 1941, fervently supporting the war effort, the Popular Front era of CPUSA, lasted until 1945, where Earl Browder was ousted from the party and replaced by a new guy. Yeah, at one point, these guys were getting a lot of momentum. The question I got for you is, what do you think is, you, you think what's happening with Islamist and it's spreading around the world? You think that's more dangerous than Communist Party or equivalent, less?

• 51:20Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about it? Because it seems like what President Trump is doing, and he's been saying since 2015, when he said, "I would bomb the shit out of Iran." Those are his words on what he said. Rubio's been saying this since 2015. Do you think this is a bigger threat than communism was back in the days?

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• 52:20Speaker 02

  Islamism? Um, that's a big call to make. I think Islamism's, um, spread through the West is more certain than communism ever was because it's a demographic thing ultimately. And once it starts, it's very hard to pull back. Um, you see that example in France where they've got, you know, certain demographic issues and they've got so many people now on their terror watch list that they can't actually watch them. So, once you get over a certain percentage, then you've got issues. And just, uh, so...

• 53:00Speaker 02

  But to me, they're two sides of the same coin. That what they share in common is a hatred of Western values and a determination to undo the West. They they think we are all illegitimate countries on stolen land. All that sort of rhetoric is designed to demoralise the population. And I think the the leftists, maybe not the communists, but it's all one movement to me, have been the most successful in advancing their ideology. The march through the institutions, as they called it, and it started with academia, but it's everywhere now, this leftist mindset. It's it's in the corporate world.

• 53:44Speaker 02

  I mean, we saw that during the BLM riots, the Summer of Love, where every corporate, big corporate, was coming out with some pro BLM stance. And, you know, you you saw the the influence, the normalisation of of what was a neo and is a neo Marxist group vehemently anti Western values. So to me, there's the the two sides of the same coin. They share a common goal and that's why why they work together, even though they really don't share too many other values. Um, but it's everywhere. It's no longer just schools. It's in the corporate world.

• 54:26Speaker 02

  The H R departments have been taken over by this sort of ideology. Um, and people are self censoring. In Australia, there are so many people who come up to me and say, you know, I want to say what I think, but I'm too scared. They're even too scared to post it on their own Facebook page because, you know, their green haired niece might, you know, abuse them or not show up to Christmas dinner. So we had.

• 54:53Patrick Bet-David?

  How nasty is it over there? How is it walking on actuals?

• 54:56Speaker 02

  It is, it is a little bit because our caliber of our politicians is is different. So. We've had what you would call rhinos or in in the UK, the Tories who governed like they were in the Labour Party. We've had that sort of conservative for a long time.

• 55:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm hmm.

• 55:14Speaker 02

  So just in the last few months in Australia, we've had the really the mainstreaming of a group called One Nation, who have been a political party for decades, but always a very small vote, sort of under ten percent, around five, six, seven percent. Now, in some of our polls, they're winning the polling, they're coming in ahead of Labour and the Coalition, which is the Liberal and Nationals, who are supposed to be the right side of the political spectrum. And that's because people are just so sick of these, you know, conservative in name only, who don't actually stand for anything, who make a few noises. And then when they get into power, they let the bureaucracy run rampant and the swamp, as you call it,

• 55:57Speaker 02

  and and just implement leftist policies. So that's why One Nation has had this enormous surge. It's a really fascinating time in Australia for politics to see if that's just going to fracture the right vote and keep the left in power, or whether those forces come together and actually uh win government. We've got preferential voting in Australia, which is also fairly unique. It's not something, so you don't just vote one for your choice, you number them. So if you've got eight candidates in your seat, you'll number one from eight.

• 56:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Kid me.

• 56:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Can I just put one or I have?

• 56:36Speaker 02

  No, you have to number them. It's it's actually a fairly idiotic system when I think of it. Uh, I used to think it had its benefits, but it actually is is not a great system. You'd much rather have a first past the post system like the UK does. So, yeah, so you have to number them. So if I vote for an independent as my first vote and they don't get up, then my second preference, my vote goes into my to that into their bundle and and so on. So it's it's a complicated system, but.

• 57:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Who else uses that system?

• 57:12Speaker 02

  I can't even tell you who else he is. It could be a uniquely Australian flavour. I'm sure someone else would have a preferential system, no?

• 57:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting.

• 57:20Speaker 02

  Not only do we have a preferential system, get this, we have compulsory voting. You will be fined if you don't vote. So you have to participate in elections, whether they're at the federal level, um, state or local government. So we've got three levels of government and you are obliged by law to participate in.

• 57:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You will be fined if you.

• 57:45Speaker 02

  You will be fined, yes. I've had fines, I've had to write in and say, I wasn't in the country, give me a break.

• 57:50Patrick Bet-David?

  How much are fines, what kind of fines is it?

• 57:52Speaker 02

  Oh, it's not crippling fines, but it'll be like around a hundred dollars, um, I think.

• 57:56Patrick Bet-David?

  They fine you if you don't vote?

• 57:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:59Patrick Bet-David?

  What percentage?

• 57:59Speaker 02

  Three, three elections we have to vote into, it's not just the one election, we've got state, federal and local.

• 58:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Each of the elections you don't vote for, you get fined?

• 58:08Speaker 02

  Um, yeah.

• 58:11Speaker 02

  And the elections are at different times, so the federal election obviously is the whole country and then we will have state elections and um, local elections, which are the local government. And it, again, there was a period where I thought, oh, that's not so bad, because it gets people involved and you have greater participation rates and perhaps the government is more reflective of the population, because everyone's voting, so you get a more representative. Nah, that's actually not the case, because you've got people voting only because of the fear of the fines, so they're not actually, you know, they have no knowledge. And, and we have something called the donkey vote, where people will just go one, two, three, four, five, six, seven on their ballot.

• 58:56Speaker 02

  So it's, you know, very advantageous to be the number one on the first name, because you get the benefit of the donkey vote, you get the people who go one, two, three, four, five, yeah.

• 59:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Just to do it quickly, just so I'm gonna be.

• 59:07Speaker 02

  That's a donkey vote, yeah.

• 59:09Patrick Bet-David?

  What percentage do the donkey?

• 59:11Speaker 02

  I don't know, it wouldn't be that much, probably be five, 10%, but that would be enough for some elections, I would imagine.

• 59:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so you have to, you have to vote for three elections per year?

• 59:19Speaker 02

  Not per year, uh, federal elections, Victoria where I'm from, we have state elections every four years, um, and then federal elections are normally around every three years and then you've got the local ones as well. The local ones, I think, are the worst to participate in, because at least with your federal and state elections, you've got some knowledge of the, who you're voting for and the policies to advocate, the. Local government elections, even I'm pretty, you know, pretty politically engaged. Half the time, I don't know the names on the ballot for the local government or who they are, what they stand for. So it's completely a absurd thing to require me to vote, but it is what it is.

• 1:00:03Speaker 02

  So, yeah, we have freedom in Australia, but not freedom to refuse to vote. You have to vote.

• 1:00:09Patrick Bet-David?

  That's, that's interesting. Is it, is it a, do you require IDs when you go to vote? How easy is it to vote? Is there voter fraud in Australia? How does that work?

• 1:00:18Speaker 02

  I think it's pretty good. You could commit voter fraud if you went to multiple polling booths and gave the same name, uh, cause they cross off your name. But, you know, there should be checks and balances to see if the same name's been crossed off. But I do wonder whether, how thorough those checks and balances is. So it could happen, but it's, I think, unlikely. Um, yeah, we don't have, it's a much simpler system and the Australian Electoral Commission is pretty sound in policing it. Um, there has been some accusations of them becoming politicized with a couple of different things over the years, but overall they're pretty sound and there's high confidence that the elections

• 1:01:01Speaker 02

  are free and fair, that we're not having, um, the sort of issues you have here.

• 1:01:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this true, Rob? It says i- in federal elections in Australia, voters generally do not need to show photo ID.

• 1:01:14Speaker 02

  You need, you need to give your name and they've got a voter roll with the names of people who are in that electorate.

• 1:01:21Patrick Bet-David?

  But not an ID needed?

• 1:01:23Speaker 02

  No. And if you're voting in a, if you're an absentee voter, I guess it's called, when you're voting in a polling booth that's not your electorate, then you go to a different section and you, um, it's a little bit more involved.

• 1:01:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting.

• 1:01:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, they're trying to do voter ID here.

• 1:01:40Speaker 02

  I think you need it here, cause you've got all sorts of issues here, particularly post-COVID, where you have the mass mail-in voting that, um,

• 1:01:49Speaker 02

  Isn't so much of an issue in many other countries.

• 1:01:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you see the voter ID CNN did a poll? Do you have that, Rob? CNN did a video, Harry Enton, talking about how Americans feel. I sent it to my notes if you want to go to it, Rob.

• 1:02:04Speaker 02

  I've seen that, and you know what? It is overwhelming, even amongst the population that we're told is going to be disadvantaged. I think it was over seventy percent of African Americans or blacks who wanted voter ID. And it's a massive percentage of Democrats wanted. I think overall is over eighty percent of the population wants it. I mean, my God, how much more?

• 1:02:31Speaker 02

  Over we go, seventy-one percent of Democrats, ninety-five percent of Republicans.

• 1:02:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Play the clip, Rob.

• 1:02:36Speaker 06

  The racial breakdown on this, right? Because I think a lot of people make the argument that people of color, non-white Americans, have a harder time procuring a photo ID to vote. But even here, take a look here, favorite photo ID to vote.

• 1:02:47Speaker 02

  Seventy-six percent of blacks.

• 1:02:50Speaker 06

  Eighty-two percent of Latino, seventy-six percent of black Americans favorite. So the bottom line is this, voter ID is not controversial in this country. A photo ID to vote is not controversial in this country. It is not controversial by party, and it is not controversial by race. The vast majority of Americans agree with Nicki Minaj that, in fact, you should have a photo ID.

• 1:03:11Speaker 02

  Go, Nicki.

• 1:03:12Patrick Bet-David?

  The vast majority.

• 1:03:13Speaker 02

  I love how Nicki is now our chief political analyst. No, she is. And you know what? I don't know if you've seen this video, it's got a lot of views. Army Horowitz, excuse me, is a regular on my show. He went to some, where was he? He was in California and New York, and he was, you know, talking to some fairly affluent-looking, in affluent areas, talking to white folk about voter ID. And almost all of them, oh, it's racist, it's this. And the bigotry of low expectations with these people. They are so racist that the woke elite are the most openly racist people, I think, in this country. They really are, and they're almost blind to.

• 1:03:59Speaker 02

  You know, just this suggestion that blacks are too dumb or too impoverished, too just out of touch to be able to get ID. And then Army went into a black neighborhood and asked them the same question, and they just looked at him like he was absolutely retarded. They're like, what do you mean? We don't have ID, like what? Like, they were insulted by the mere suggestion that it was hard to get ID. So, yeah, that was um a clip I played recently because um, yeah, it's always timely. And I think he filmed this actually a few years ago, but yeah, as relevant now as ever.

• 1:04:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yesterday, I don't know what it was, Rob. I don't know if you can find this or not. Elon retweeted something about a guy going after Chuck Schumer. Because Chuck Schumer said something like, you know, uh um, it's unfair, you're making it difficult for people to vote, you're making difficult for people to do this. And he went after him. I don't know if you have that clip. You can play this clip as well, briefly. Go for it.

• 1:05:00Speaker 06

  The same thing that was done in the South for decades to prevent people of color from voting.

• 1:05:06Speaker 01

  See, this is where my righteous anger pop up because I know what he's saying is a lie. I live in the South. I've been living in the South my whole life on the Gulf Coast. I go to vote every single time there's an election. And guess what? I show my ID. I write my signature. They check to make sure who I am. I go vote, no problems. Nobody asking me any questions. Nobody making me count the jelly beans in the jaw. And quit lumping us in the people of color category. We're black Americans and we are citizens and nobody is taking away our right to vote. What they are doing is they're using black people going back in the past, provoking emotional manipulation because they know if they say Jim Crow or slavery, black people are gonna be like, oh, oh my God, he's right.

• 1:05:50Speaker 01

  They're coming against us. This has nothing to do with you, black people. Wake up. People of color he talking about is illegal migrants. They don't have IDs. That's their new voting base. But letting these people use you. I've been having the ID since I was fifteen years old.

• 1:06:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop it right there. Common sense just makes it out, right, to the market? And then they have to try to defend it, but uh.

• 1:06:13Speaker 02

  I mean, can you imagine any issue other than, I guess, the trans issue with the excesses of the trans movement? Any issue where you've got over eighty percent of the population on one side? And yet you've got the Democrats willing to die on this hill saying no? We're gonna stand against this. So why would they do that? Why would they stand against a policy where more than seventy percent of their voters are pro voter ID? Where over eighty percent of the general population, you would only do it if there's some benefit in not having voter ID, which is you're cheating. Why else would you take a position that is so unpopular?

• 1:06:52Speaker 02

  They're not dumb, they're liars, there's a difference. And I think you've just got to call it out. I don't know if it's going to be remedied though, because it's going so difficult to fix this once it's.

• 1:07:05Patrick Bet-David?

  They get this, it's so massive in America if they pull this off. If they pull off the voter ID, it is so massive for America moving forward. And they will be panicking because they will be.

• 1:07:16Speaker 02

  They are panicking.

• 1:07:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Losing the the control. Uh, the the business model of bringing illegal immigrants in and opening up the borders will not work anymore. What do you do with them now?

• 1:07:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. And you know what? A lot of the migrants that they've counted on, the ones who came here legally, and they just thought we've got voters for life, they're Hispanic, they're gonna be voting for us. Well, no. As with a lot of other migrant groups, including Asian Americans, they're socially conservative. They're aspirational. They are not natural Democrat voters. And I think Trump has been just so enormously successful in winning them over. I don't know, future Republican presidential candidates will have the same success he's had. But he's shown that they're not lifelong Democrat voters.

• 1:08:06Speaker 02

  That's such a, again, another huge achievement for for President Trump. Because I think that's completely changed the thinking of a lot of political analysts who just thought, oh, yeah. Look at the demographics of this area, this seat goes, no, no, not no longer. Um, and it's something I think in Australia and in the UK, the conservative side needs to appreciate a lot more that.

• 1:08:32Speaker 02

  You need to reach out to these migrant communities because they are your voters. If you just pay a little bit of attention. They are socially conservative. They don't want their kids indoctrinated with this crazy bullshit at school. They don't want to be crippled with taxes. They want to build wealth. They want to have financial security and and they want to have traditional family values and no parties on the left represent those things.

• 1:08:57Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, this is Chuck Schumer. This is one of the clips.

• 1:09:00Speaker 02

  How long has this idiot been in power?

• 1:09:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, longer than you and I have been alive.

• 1:09:05Speaker 02

  This is, I mean, there's this thing to be said about term limits, isn't there?

• 1:09:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Rob, you have this? Go for it.

• 1:09:12Speaker 06

  Let's admit the truth. Everywhere people go, they're asked for a social security card. In fact, one way to prove you're a bona fide person who can have a job is to ask for a driver's license and a social security card. This is an anti-fraud amendment. All over where we go, people say, well, why can't you stop

• 1:09:33Speaker 06

  illegal immigrants or others from coming here? And the number one answer we give our constituents is when they come here, they can get jobs, get benefits against the law because of fraud. What they are proposing in this so-called SAVE Act is like Jim Crow 2.0. Let's admit the truth.

• 1:09:51Patrick Bet-David?

  It's politics, right? They're playing politics and...

• 1:09:55Speaker 02

  But they're playing politics. He is taking a position he knows three in four Democrat voters are against because he knows they're getting a benefit from those illegal votes. Otherwise, you wouldn't. Why would you take? I mean, it it's normally takes a real bravery to take a take a position that a minority supports. And you would only do it if if you're getting a benefit. And so they know they're getting a benefit. I don't know how big that benefit is, but it must be significant for them to die on this hill.

• 1:10:32Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, what what do you think about what happened with Australia? The 4.7 million social media, the, you know, kids under age of 16 that can't have social media.

• 1:10:41Speaker 02

  UK is doing this now.

• 1:10:43Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about that?

• 1:10:44Speaker 02

  Oh, look, we've got something called the East Safety Commissioner. She is a ma- she's an American.

• 1:10:52Speaker 02

  And she is anti-Trump, anti, um, anti-conservative. To me, she is a massive political activist who is using that position to push her belief system. What's her name? Julie Inman Grant is the name of the East Safety Commissioner, Julie Inman Grant. She's said some very troubling things over the years about free speech. And she's in charge of that. So anything-

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• 1:12:13Speaker 02

  She touches, automatically dubious about. The Office of the East Safety Commissioner, and she's the East Safety Commissioner, was designed to protect children from online predators, from what's happening online that can target them. It's morphed into something entirely different. It's now, she tried to, for example, get the video of a bishop in Australia being stabbed in an alleged Islamist terror attack. She tried to get that removed from the entire internet, not just from Australia, but from around the world. So Elon Musk actually took her to court and ended up winning on that one.

• 1:12:58Speaker 02

  She has taken down tweets from breastfeeding advocates saying men can't breastfeed. Like, she's- Stop it. No, she's, I mean, when I say she's a political activist, there's no doubt in my mind she is a- That's her. -political activist. That's her. And I think- People say particularly in Europe that can affect America's First Amendment rights by putting controls on X via European laws and laws perhaps in Australia because if these social media companies don't play ball, they can get hit with crippling fines. We're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars a day, I think.

• 1:13:41Speaker 02

  So, um, that's, yeah, that's one of the, uh, things to consider. So again, this under sixteen social media ban, a lot of well meaning people were in support of it, thinking, you know, kids can be free of their devices, the online bullying, all the perils that come with being on social media twenty four seven, but.

• 1:14:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, she was the one that said, remove the Marmari Emmanuel stabbing.

• 1:14:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:10Patrick Bet-David?

  A Syrian.

• 1:14:11Speaker 02

  That's the bishop, yeah.

• 1:14:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, do you know the story behind it, what happened? He was on this podcast, came here from Australia, did the podcast. He made a couple of comments about my Jesus and your prophet, Muhammad.

• 1:14:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And he criticized it. The next week he goes back to preach and a nineteen year old who saw the podcast went and stabbed him in the eye. And while he got stabbed in the eye, he prayed for the kid that stabbed the guy in the eye. This is Bishop Marmari Emmanuel.

• 1:14:40Speaker 02

  That was a miracle, the fact that.

• 1:14:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Full on miracle, yes.

• 1:14:42Speaker 02

  That he didn't die, that, that I think the knife, um, was a flick knife and it didn't come out properly or there was something, so he was injured certainly, but.

• 1:14:51Patrick Bet-David?

  But he lost one of his eyes.

• 1:14:52Speaker 02

  Um, a- and they, yeah, that was, um.

• 1:14:57Patrick Bet-David?

  So this was her doing, taking that clip down.

• 1:14:59Speaker 02

  She wanted, and it did come down and it was something that Elon Musk actually, um. But if you don't have someone like an Elon Musk, then, you know, that, the, the power to just strike down what you don't like is. Um, yeah, and everything she has struck down seems to be from one side. And so, yeah, so though some well meaning people were supportive of that under sixteen, I think it's very sinister. I think it's got all sorts of unintended or perhaps intended consequences that come with it that are no good. Not, I mean, to have kids not be available on YouTube. I mean,

• 1:15:38Speaker 02

  are you kidding me? They can access porn sites, but they can't access X or YouTube or Instagram? I think that's a parental decision, not, not something the government should be enforcing.

• 1:15:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Very, you, you, our guy in the back right now is probably doing backflips. Humberto is fully on the same page with you on that. By the way, this Julie lady that you're talking about, when she graduated from college, she got a job to work at CIA and she turned it down. And then she went and worked at Microsoft from nineteen ninety as a government affairs manager and then moved to Australia to work still for Microsoft. And then she went into government and then, you know, the rest is history.

• 1:16:18Speaker 02

  And she was appointed by a terrible, terrible liberal government. So in Australia, when we say liberal, we actually mean the right wing. So it's, it's the opposite to here. So we've got the liberal national coalition is supposed to be the center right. But often, like I said, they have been liberal in name only and they will make decisions like appointing this activist. And I think it's been absolutely disastrous. Um, she's now lost, there was another woman who took her to court recently, just a mum, a single mum who's had two years of her life, uh, really taken over by these sort of legal

• 1:17:00Speaker 02

  issues because she posted something about, um, this pro-trans activism, this radical gender theory that was being taught to primary school kids. And she made a post about this shouldn't be taught to primary school kids. And the safety commissioner struck it down, said, no, this post needs to be removed. This lady fought her, won. The safety commissioner, Julianne Moungrant, then appealed it using taxpayer funds. And so this woman then had to go to, I think the next step was the federal court and she won there again. So, but. Yeah, I mean, it takes guts to do that. No one wants to be in legal fights, the costs,

• 1:17:42Speaker 02

  the stress, the whole. But yeah, this is what we're dealing with in Australia. So you've got the First Amendment here. We don't have it and.

• 1:17:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you ever get in trouble? First of, because you're pretty vocal. So do they ever come after you?

• 1:17:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, they'll come after me with, they try to silence you through different measures using lawfare and codes. And the most recent one that was actually chucked out was, someone tried to take me to the Australian Human Rights Commission for saying something that they deemed to be, I think Islamophobic, which was ridiculous. It was post October seven. So, yeah, good luck to them. But it is, it is, the lawfare is an issue.

• 1:18:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do you live there instead of here? Because you're a dual citizenship, so.

• 1:18:31Speaker 02

  Um, I should be. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I think ultimately I'll, I'll be here. I just always thought that from when I was a little girl. I always thought I'll eventually live in America. So that's still in the back of my mind. So yeah, we'll see. Yeah. Half the problem is where do you live? There's so many good places you could go. I mean, I love Florida. There's quite a few places I love in Florida. I love Texas, Tennessee, Arkansas. I mean, how, how do you pick? It's hard.

• 1:19:02Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a good thing, though. You got choices.

• 1:19:04Speaker 02

  You got choices, but when you've got a free choice, where you don't have like family or some, you know, job that's keeping you in a particular location, it can be overwhelming the choice.

• 1:19:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, if you're an Islamist communist, New York City could be a great choice.

• 1:19:18Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, maybe I'll just go back to my Iranian roots and move to Manhattan.

• 1:19:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Just gonna go.

• 1:19:23Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 1:19:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna go to New York. No, but you know, for us, I mean, I lived, I lived in LA for 24 years and then I lived in Dallas for five years.

• 1:19:30Speaker 02

  Nice.

• 1:19:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Love Dallas.

• 1:19:32Speaker 02

  I love Fort Worth more than Dallas. Dallas, I don't know, seems a bit soulless to me.

• 1:19:36Patrick Bet-David?

  We lived in Plano.

• 1:19:37Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 1:19:38Patrick Bet-David?

  So Plano, it's Dallas, but it's, you know, 10 miles north, 20 miles north.

• 1:19:42Speaker 02

  I love McKinney and.

• 1:19:43Patrick Bet-David?

  McKinney's great.

• 1:19:44Speaker 02

  And there's what's that grapevine and Grandbury. There's a lot of places around Dallas.

• 1:19:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You go to Dallas a lot?

• 1:19:51Speaker 02

  I go to Texas a bit. I love Texas. I love Texas Rotary, but like I love the little towns. They're my favorite. They're the ones, the little towns next to the big towns are, I find the best parts of America.

• 1:20:02Patrick Bet-David?

  We fell in love with Plano.

• 1:20:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:04Patrick Bet-David?

  If it wasn't for the love for water, we would have probably stayed in Plano, but that's Florida.

• 1:20:08Speaker 02

  The thing Texas lacks is good beach. They've got, yeah, that, that beach ain't good.

• 1:20:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not gonna go to Galveston. You're not gonna go to Houston, Galveston Beach and

• 1:20:17Speaker 02

  Nah.

• 1:20:18Patrick Bet-David?

  seeing stuff that I shouldn't even say right now on the podcast, but no, Florida, the good, the good thing about here is have to know. When, when, when the, the president is done being a president, he's gonna be coming back and living in Palm Beach. So what's happening right now to Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Palm Beach, it's insane.

• 1:20:37Speaker 02

  And I love the Florida Panhandle. That's my favorite little part of Florida.

• 1:20:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 1:20:43Speaker 02

  Have you been up there much?

• 1:20:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Which, which, which city, specific city?

• 1:20:46Speaker 02

  I love seaside, watercolor, Rosemary Beach, Seagrove. That's all like all together and they are just so beautiful. The beaches are so spectacular.

• 1:20:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Click on the map.

• 1:21:00Speaker 02

  And the homes are, there's just a uniformity with the homes.

• 1:21:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh yeah, Panama City, I love it there.

• 1:21:06Speaker 02

  Which is glorious. I think seaside is actually where they filmed The Truman Show perhaps. Yeah, it is. And

• 1:21:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it?

• 1:21:15Speaker 02

  So they've got, you know what, I normally don't like mad bureaucracy, but there, there must have rules around what you can build. But everything is beautiful and, and you know, so Rosemary Beach is sort of a bit more European feel. Whilst um, watercolor is just all white and

• 1:21:34Patrick Bet-David?

  So who knows, maybe we'll have you in Florida. Maybe we'll have you in Florida.

• 1:21:38Speaker 02

  Pan, pan, yeah, Panhandle, I could be very happy there, but it is stupidly expensive even for Australian. Cause you know, Australian house prices are crazy.

• 1:21:47Patrick Bet-David?

  How crazy?

• 1:21:48Speaker 02

  Are crazy, like you look at, Australians look at Miami even and go just salivate at what you can get for your money. Um, it's like if you wanna buy

• 1:22:03Speaker 02

  A one bedroom apartment in a good part of Sydney, you will spend over a million dollars. Like you have to.

• 1:22:10Patrick Bet-David?

  For a one bedroom?

• 1:22:11Speaker 02

  For a one bedroom apartment, probably no parking, yeah. Um, you wanna be in Volclus, Double Bay, Point Piper, like if you wanna be one of the nice suburbs of Sydney and you're gonna get into the cheapest property in that suburb, you're still gonna pay over a million dollars. Where's that? I don't even know what Warren Bro is, that would be out in a country.

• 1:22:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, that's Rob's area. Rob likes Warren Bro.

• 1:22:37Speaker 02

  Oh, is this in Australia or here? Yes, Australia. So I've never even heard of it, so it must be some country town. I don't know what, I don't know where you found it.

• 1:22:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to Maps and type in Warren Bro, Australia.

• 1:22:48Speaker 02

  But yeah, even if you buy property in the country, you are spending a lot of money. Warren Bro is in, oh yeah, look at where you're in the middle of nowhere.

• 1:22:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, what are you doing, Rob?

• 1:22:59Speaker 02

  You're like, what, over an hour from Perth?

• 1:23:01Patrick Bet-David?

  He's trying to be a real turn Australia, that's.

• 1:23:03Speaker 02

  Oh my god, if you wanna look, have a look at um the cheapest property, say in Volclus or Point Piper or Double Bay. Look at the cheapest property in Double Bay. Double Bay, Double Bay, you might find an apartment for like seven, eight hundred thousand. If you're lucky, if you're super lucky, a studio.

• 1:23:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Does it allow you to see Double Bay? Rob, just type in Double Bay in the filters?

• 1:23:29Speaker 02

  It's a gorgeous part of the world, but yeah, it's crazy expensive. So the median house price in Sydney is over a million. That includes all the outer suburbs, so like, you know, so that's, that's the median. Okay, so if we find, okay, they're all houses, we're not gonna be able to afford those. Let's just find an apartment we can, yeah, that's not gonna be affordable.

• 1:23:54Speaker 02

  We're gonna be homeless at this stage. They're working for us.

• 1:23:59Speaker 02

  We're gonna be homeless. Um, so yeah, something like that would be at least ten million.

• 1:24:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, really?

• 1:24:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, at least. Elizabeth Bay, similar.

• 1:24:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting. So, so a lot of wealth is there for people to be able to afford that, right? So money's being made.

• 1:24:12Speaker 02

  Well, a lot of wealth, but there's a lot of massive mortgages. So Australia, um, people are comfortable taking out insanely massive mortgages that will take them thirty years to pay off, um, because that's how you have to enter the housing market. Um, but even if you buy, um, properties in the outer suburbs, it's still, yeah.

• 1:24:40Speaker 02

  So when it says about six hundred ninety thousand for a new home loan nationally, that's nationally. So that's the cheap areas.

• 1:24:48Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's Warren Bro where he likes.

• 1:24:50Speaker 02

  Yeah. Warren Bro, yeah, good on you.

• 1:24:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:52Speaker 02

  So average mortgage in New South Wales near it's eight hundred twenty eight thousand. That's a lot.

• 1:24:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Holy moly. Eight twenty eight. That's insane to have that type of prices. So when, when.

• 1:25:04Speaker 02

  So Australians work to pay off mortgages. You, you pay, if you're buying a property, it's, yeah, it's, and, and in Victoria where I am, so Victoria used to always be second most expensive after New South Wales or Sydney. And it used to be very close, Sydney, Melbourne, but we've had a very hard left government in Victoria and it's done some bad things to our property prices. The rest of the country's been going up. We've been stagnating, even going backwards sometimes. So.

• 1:25:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not really selling people to move to Australia. Are people leaving Australia or no?

• 1:25:41Speaker 02

  No, because it is a peaceful country. It's a prosperous country relatively. Um, so it's a great place to live, but this current federal government we have is very left. They're making us, the living standards have dropped. Um, in fact, I think in the OECD, we have had the biggest drop in living standards in recent years because of some of the policies. That have been implemented there. Um. We went insane with COVID, particularly the state I live in, Victoria. Melbourne had six lockdowns, the most anywhere in the world. And, you know, that's crippling. That's crippling for your economy. You can print as much money as you like, but you're gonna feel the effects. So.

• 1:26:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, as Australia is experiencing significant, record-breaking decline in living standards. So, yeah, that's not ideal.

• 1:26:28Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's not.

• 1:26:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm not selling it well, am I? But no, still come. Come spend your money, all of it.

• 1:26:35Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, is it true that, uh, you, uh, Pierce used to be with Sky News and then you came?

• 1:26:41Speaker 02

  Yes. Did you see Pierce and Dave Rubin are having a massive fight online? I saw that overnight. I was surprised. I was surprised by how, uh, personally got.

• 1:26:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 1:26:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, because Pierce was on Rubin's show and I know Dave well and he, Dave, Dave told him why he doesn't like to do the show and what it's kind of devolved into. And Pierce didn't say anything back. He was kind of understanding and then it's got all ugly online. I'm like, just juke it out whilst just sitting opposite each other.

• 1:27:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, Dave said something back. He says, pretty sure Meghan got some of the botox.

• 1:27:20Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, that was not gonna help.

• 1:27:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Pierce would sell his mother to a jihadist for a click.

• 1:27:22Speaker 02

  So that's, that's post everything else. Okay, all right.

• 1:27:25Patrick Bet-David?

  That was at seventeen hours. So that, that, that comment and then from there, Pierce got into it. Four months ago, I drove out to Rubin's podcast at his home in Miami, personal favor because he's done my show many times. I thought we were friends. How wrong could I be? What a treacherous little weasel.

• 1:27:40Speaker 02

  Treacherous?

• 1:27:41Patrick Bet-David?

  They, they, uh.

• 1:27:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, they've gone, they've gone.

• 1:27:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So what, what do you think about this whole Israel thing? Cause that last sentence, right? Being Netanyahu's useful idiot has sent him and Shapiro nuts. Every time this Israel Netanyahu comes, people on both sides lose their mind. Why, why do you think that is?

• 1:28:01Speaker 02

  Look, we were talking about this um in Melbourne recently. I was with um group of uh members of the Jewish community, it was a function, and we talked about this and I've talked to Jewish friends about this a lot recently. Because there is this fracture on the right where um an increasing number are anti-Israel, you would say, or at least very um cynical about Israel. Um I would say rather than anti-Israel, cynical about Israel. And it's something I think um the Jewish community, certainly in Australia, is very much aware of and and it's something that some of them

• 1:28:45Speaker 02

  uh understand what's behind it. Um I think there's a lot of factors, but um yeah, I thi- I think it's a real concern for them because they know where the left stands on this issue. The left have made it very clear, particularly post October seven where they stand. And to maintain support on the right, I think they have to change the tactics a little bit. Uh and again, I'm generalizing here. When I say they, I'm talking about the lobby in general. But this cancellation, if anybody says something that is a little bit different to what you want, or is a little bit critical of

• 1:29:29Speaker 02

  whether it's Netanyahu or Israel's stated position to, I think there's been an eagerness by some, not by all, by some, to immediately attack that position as antisemitic, and I think that's really counterproductive. And I think that's behind some of the sentiment we've seen where people are um not happy with uh people being cancelled or attempting to cancel people because they have taken a position that the lobby may not agree with. I think it's just uh unhelpful and I'd I if I think I don't like the principle of it. I think people should be able to say what they want. Unless you're threatening or saying something that breaches the law, then

• 1:30:19Speaker 02

  Counter it with arguments, don't counter it with trying to get their advertisers cancelled or try to deplatform them as some sort of, you know, um, undesirable, who, who, who, who, who cannot be reasoned with. I think there's just been a little bit of that from certain segments of the community that has been really counterproductive. I've seen it um, uh, here in particular, but also in Australia. So, uh, but yeah, there is this growing wing of the right that is becoming more and more hostile towards Benjamin Netanyahu in particular. It

• 1:31:00Speaker 02

  is, it is interesting and I think it's something that Republicans have got to be aware of. You can't ignore it. You ignore it at your peril. I still think it's a small minority though, because there's so much talk about MAGA's fractured and it's disintegrating. And there was another poll recently against CNN, ninety-eight percent of MAGA stands with Trump. So if that's a fracture, then that's pretty well, that's a pretty well handled. Yeah.

• 1:31:30Patrick Bet-David?

  July twenty twenty-five when they showed that. That, that, that clip is from July twenty-two. I've seen that clip when they showed it. It'll be, you know, the one thing with him is, he is a guy that gets ahead of it. He watches all the numbers. He watches all the polls.

• 1:31:44Speaker 02

  I mean, I just don't understand some on the right who say, I'm not voting for Republicans. Or even before the election, they were saying not voting for Trump. What are you then backing? I mean, he may not be as pure ideologically as you want, but look at what he's done. What other Republican would have achieved half of that? And what would have Kamala done? I mean, that, that mindset, I do not understand. Um, I can fully understand if you've got some Rhino that you don't want to vote for, go for it. But if Trump is not strong enough for you, then I

• 1:32:26Speaker 02

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• 1:33:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you ever do Pierce's show? Did he ever do your show? Or you guys had...

• 1:33:42Speaker 02

  Or Pierce? I must have done his show at some point. But I mean, I took over his time slot at Sky News, so he was with us.

• 1:33:51Speaker 02

  And I think he had a fairly long-term contract. I think it was like five years, from memory. And then, after a year or so, he went off and did his own thing. And so, yeah, I took over his time slot in Australia. But it was a show he did that also ran in the UK. So I don't know who took it over in the UK.

• 1:34:12Speaker 02

  But I've never done this current version of his program, which is very shouty.

• 1:34:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Very shouty, yes.

• 1:34:19Speaker 02

  Very shouty, which is what I think Dave Rubin was objecting to. I don't mind the shoutiness. I mean, I see clips every now and then, and I find it amusing. Some of it's quite funny.

• 1:34:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I think someone's gotta do it. Someone's gotta do it. And I think Pierce is the right guy to do it, because Pierce is not afraid to...

• 1:34:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Get out there and wrestle with the pigs and then go talk to guy that's running for office and then go talk to president, go talk to Ronaldo. I think he's talented. He's made for TV and so whatever people want to say, the guy was made for TV, period.

• 1:34:52Speaker 02

  But I think this product is ideally suited for him because like you said, he can moderate it, but he can also moderate it with with also stating his own opinion. So he's not just, yeah.

• 1:35:05Patrick Bet-David?

  He's fearless, but you know, Ben Shapiro made the video about him. I think Ben said something about him and then, you know, Ben and Dave Rubin are part of the same camp and they're on the same page. And Pierce, I don't know if Pierce is part of any camp. I think Pierce is a standalone guy.

• 1:35:21Speaker 02

  Is not, to me, is not a conservative. To me, he's a genuine centrist because there are some things he's very conservative.

• 1:35:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree.

• 1:35:29Speaker 02

  And other issues where he's very much on the left. So to me, he is a genuine centrist where his political belief is sort of spread over the whole spectrum. I mean, during COVID, Pierce and I would have been very much on opposite sides of the argument. We would have had some shouting matches if he had the program back then. So, yeah.

• 1:35:54Patrick Bet-David?

  He was pro-vaccine.

• 1:35:55Speaker 02

  Look, he was very pro everything. He was pro lockdown. He was bloody getting upset with people who were breaching these irrational laws that existed in Australia and the UK. I mean, the stuff we had in Australia was so insanely idiotic. It beggars belief that people accepted it and people did accept it. That really changed my view of Australia, I think, forever because I never saw us like that. I never saw us as so compliant and so scared because there was the scare campaign. It was across the media.

• 1:36:37Speaker 02

  Across all levels of government and people fell into line. So in Victoria, you couldn't go fishing. You couldn't play golf. They banned playgrounds for a period. So kids couldn't go and play in playgrounds. They had a five kilometre um radius around your property that you could go to. So there was, there was only for a period.

• 1:37:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Five.

• 1:37:01Speaker 02

  Five kilometres. So I don't know, three and a half miles that you could, if you went outside of that, you'd get a fine.

• 1:37:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Isn't that amazing?

• 1:37:09Speaker 02

  Big fine. They had, we had curfews. You had to be home by a certain hour. I think it was like nine P M. It was something quite early. And we also had uh only an hour you could be outside exercising per day. So. And the safest place was outside. Safest place was to be outside. And you know, all these crazy rules that I'm sure you had some states here in California, New York, where you could be in restaurants, but you could only take your mask off at the table. If you got up to walk, you had to put your mask on or, you know, like just so many irrational, insane laws that no thinking person could look at and go,

• 1:37:50Speaker 02

  this makes sense to reduce the spread of the disease, but people accepted it. We had border closures between states. So we had people trapped be- between state lines, not able to go home for months. People living in caravan parks. Um we had people who, whose family member was dying and they couldn't go across a state border to say goodbye, see them one last time, because they weren't allowed. The state borders were closed. So if you went from, if you want to go from Victoria to New South Wales, you either were not allowed um or you'd have to go into quarantine. I mean, the, the, the laws we had in Australia were Chinese Communist Party level crazy.

• 1:38:34Speaker 02

  Um and particularly in Victoria, that was the epicenter of the Covid scare in Australia.

• 1:38:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Who, who does Aus- who do Australians look at their enemies or competitors? You know, because we have our own, every country has one. Who, who, who does Australia look at as their enemy?

• 1:38:50Speaker 02

  Uh enemy, like we have a rivalry, a friendly rivalry with New Zealand being next door. We have the whole Anzac um history, um Australian, New Zealand, um.

• 1:39:03Speaker 02

  China, I guess, is seen as a threat, cause.

• 1:39:06Patrick Bet-David?

  As a threat.

• 1:39:07Speaker 02

  They're in our region, they would be looking at us, um, they've bought huge amounts of land there. So, yeah, there, there is obviously a concern about China and its global ambitions and how aggressive it can be. So there's always an effort to with the smaller countries in the South Pacific to have them on our side as opposed to have them being bought off by China. Um, so China is obviously seen as a bit of a, a, a threat, but also it's such a, you know, huge economic power that we, we use. I mean, a lot of our exports go there. Um, that would probably be the main one, really. There's really n- nothing else i- in our region.

• 1:39:52Speaker 02

  Indonesia is very close to us, but I think we see Indonesia as pretty friendly. Australians go to Bali. Probably more so than any other country that's in, in our area for holidays. Maybe New Zealand would be more, but yeah, so, um, I think China was the only one that immediately comes to mind there.

• 1:40:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting.

• 1:40:12Speaker 02

  And there's a real love hate relationship with America because our media is so hideous when it comes to reporting on America. It's, just imagine MSNBC, CNN, Guardian.

• 1:40:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:40:26Speaker 02

  Regurgitated across the board. That's, that's the media, um, coverage of US politics. So you've got Australians genuinely worried about, some of them, coming for a holiday to America because they think, you know, it's living under fascism. You, you've got some of that sort of misinformation that's, that's been, um, spread, but, um, but yeah, there's a real affinity with America as well. I mean, we, we share so much.

• 1:40:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Very cool. I saw you made some comments about James Tellerico. What do you think about him?

• 1:41:01Speaker 02

  James?

• 1:41:01Patrick Bet-David?

  James Tellerico.

• 1:41:02Speaker 02

  Oh, yes, the, um.

• 1:41:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Liberal Obama.

• 1:41:06Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:41:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Looking guy that's Christian and he's gonna do amazing things.

• 1:41:09Speaker 02

  He gives me a creeps and he's.

• 1:41:12Patrick Bet-David?

  The left loves him.

• 1:41:14Speaker 02

  I, I don't know. He just kind of, you know, some people just, you immediately kind of.

• 1:41:21Speaker 02

  On edge about them. That could be unfair because I am judging a book by its cover there. But everything that comes out of his mouth is disturbing to my mind. Um, I don't know how the Democrats think Texans are going to embrace someone who says God is non-binary. And that what he loves most apart from his own family are trans children. Like, what a weird thing to say. To me, he's just a weirdo. And this is the thing amongst the left. You know what? They have so much going for them when it comes to the culture. They've got the whole culture. They've got Hollywood. They've got the mainstream media. They've got pretty much every sort of, you know, social media platform other than X.

• 1:42:05Speaker 02

  They should be in power perpetually, but they just cannot help themselves being batshit crazy. They get crazy and then they get crazier.

• 1:42:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 1:42:15Speaker 02

  And, and if it wasn't for that, if they could just at least pretend to be normal, they would probably be in power uninterrupted. Because they have everything going for them as far as the media is concerned.

• 1:42:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, this is like, you, you ever see those clips, Rob, of how, um, these Miss America or Miss Universe ask you, what do you think about World P? You know, but you know, and they say the dumbest things. This was his moment. This is.

• 1:42:42Speaker 02

  Remember the Maps question for, I think it was Teen Miss USA. That was great.

• 1:42:46Patrick Bet-David?

  What is that?

• 1:42:48Speaker 02

  Well, a, a girl was asked about, something about Maps that she gave the most convoluted, crazy answer.

• 1:42:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Maps?

• 1:42:55Speaker 02

  It was about Maps, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. That one.

• 1:42:59Patrick Bet-David?

  This one?

• 1:43:00Speaker 02

  This girl.

• 1:43:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, South Carolina. Yeah, I've seen this. This is the best one. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:43:04Speaker 04

  Americans can't locate the US on a world map. Why do you think this is?

• 1:43:11Speaker 04

  I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do so because some.

• 1:43:18Patrick Bet-David?

  People out there in our nation don't have maps. And I believe that our education, like South Africa and Iraq, everywhere like.

• 1:43:30Speaker 02

  Why is she mentioning South Africa?

• 1:43:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Should our education over here in the US should help the US or should help South Africa and should help Iraq and the Asian countries. I mean, it's like, stop, babe. Can you imagine parents are like, honey, I'm begging you.

• 1:43:47Speaker 02

  She's just saying words at this point.

• 1:43:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that Mario Lopez? Is that really?

• 1:43:52Speaker 02

  I love the look on your smile. Look at that.

• 1:43:56Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, this was her moment. Now, watch James Tellerico's moment with his answer. It's a similar answer, but watch.

• 1:44:04Speaker 04

  Something that you love that's not family or friends.

• 1:44:10Speaker 04

  I love, and I'm just saying this because it's on my mind, the trans children who showed up yesterday at the state Capitol to advocate for their humanity. They shouldn't have to, but it was an inspiration to watch.

• 1:44:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh.

• 1:44:24Speaker 02

  Great, yeah. So what I mean about creepy, that's exhibit A right there.

• 1:44:30Patrick Bet-David?

  But I mean, a lot of people are getting behind him. They're like, hey, you know, this is.

• 1:44:34Speaker 02

  They got up behind Beto, Beto, what the hell was his name?

• 1:44:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Beto O'Rourke, yeah, Texas.

• 1:44:40Speaker 02

  I think he's that 2.0.

• 1:44:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:44:42Speaker 02

  Or actually, we already had a 2.0, maybe 3.0. I just think he's going to be a media sensation that going to pump him up. I just can't see him getting elected. If he gets elected, then wow, there's some real problems.

• 1:44:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you think Mamdani would get elected?

• 1:44:58Speaker 02

  I did because New Yorkers are crazy. So like you keep electing crazy, you get crazy, and I have very little sympathy for them. I really do. Because like you said, it was a democratic process. It wasn't foisted upon them. It's not Iran. They chose that. Good luck. But I do worry about states like Texas and even Florida, though the last election showed it's not such an issue here yet, that you got this influx of New Yorkers and Californians. And sadly, many of them will keep voting the same way.

• 1:45:34Speaker 02

  Backing the same sort of politicians who ruined their home state. Um, and it's, it's, it's, it's going to be an issue and I think it's going to be an issue as far as New Yorkers are concerned because a lot of them are leaving. Have you got, Zuck, Zuckerberg's just moved to Florida too in April, I think he's gonna move down here.

• 1:45:53Patrick Bet-David?

  He bought a small place for a hundred seventy four million.

• 1:45:56Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:45:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, just a small tiny place.

• 1:45:58Speaker 02

  I'll never forgive him for what he did in twenty twenty. You know what, I know he's pretending now to be all sort of, you know, I'm a centrist.

• 1:46:06Patrick Bet-David?

  He's baptized and converted.

• 1:46:08Speaker 02

  Nonsense. He donated, what, four hundred and fifty, five hundred million of his own money.

• 1:46:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, he did.

• 1:46:15Speaker 02

  To fortify the election, as they called it. Um, no, you don't do that and then three years later, suddenly have some conversion, some moment.

• 1:46:25Patrick Bet-David?

  To his defense, he had, when the, when the, when the president got shot, uh, he was being interviewed on a podcast and I think it was like twenty four hours later or something like that. And he said, did he say, is that the most badass moment I've ever seen in my life? That's the one right there, yeah. I don't know if you've seen this. Um, no, look, I mean, there's obviously a lot of crazy stuff going on in the world, I mean, the historic events over the last, like over the weekend and, I mean, on a personal note, it's, you know, and seeing Donald Trump get, get up after getting shot in the face and pump his fist in the air with the American flag is one of the most badass things I've ever seen in my life. But, um, and I think, look, at some level as an American, it's like hard to not get. Now, she's a liberal.

• 1:47:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Emotional about that.

• 1:47:11Speaker 02

  Okay, can I respond to that?

• 1:47:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:47:14Speaker 02

  I reckon he's smart enough, he's savvy enough to know after that moment, Trump had the election.

• 1:47:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you think that's what it is?

• 1:47:21Speaker 02

  And that's why you said that, because he knew, like particularly, he's saying that it happened part last weekend, so it's days afterwards. And days afterwards, that was the, the rhetoric, that he can't like, you know, this is going to give him such an incredible boost, his reaction, the fact that he was targeted, it's going to galvanize the supporter base and they're going to come out and vote. So I think that's a reaction to that. I just don't believe a grown man who spends close to half a billion dollars of his own money, could have even been more than half a billion in the end when you, because it was multiple. Lump sums that he devoted to that cause. Then three years later goes, oh, no. The guy that I spent half a billion dollars making sure didn't get reelected.

• 1:48:05Speaker 02

  I'm now standing next to or I'm indifferent to it. I don't mind who wins. Don't believe it for one second. And if you look at Instagram and Facebook, the meta sites and their algorithm, what they censor. They're still censoring conservative voices. So no, he can get stuffed. So, yeah, that's going to be your neighbor in Florida.

• 1:48:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he'll be in Miami.

• 1:48:28Speaker 02

  But that's the thing, they'll all move. That once, once, once the taxes bite, they'll, they'll move to a red state. But, yeah, I, I can't believe that his belief system's changed that dramatically.

• 1:48:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You know when we'll know that? We'll know that in the next election if a liberal wins. Because, you know, there's.

• 1:48:45Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:48:46Patrick Bet-David?

  AOC is making some momentum. You know, she's been on Calci, if you look at it, she's all over the place. Uh, Newsom right now is at the top of the list. You're seeing some different names that are popping up. Josh Shapiro, Pritzker, all these guys. If a Democrat wins, we'll see how Zuckerberg reacts.

• 1:49:03Speaker 02

  Particularly if it's a Newsom. If he's fled Gavin Newsom's California, I still think he'll stand with Newsom if Newsom wins. Do you, I still, I think Newsom's the frontrunner. Um, oh, yeah, that poll shows he's the frontrunner. I mean, if you look at the polls, Kamala's the frontrunner, isn't she? Isn't that the one that the polls show, but the betting agencies think?

• 1:49:27Patrick Bet-David?

  CNN showed something that had Newsom. This is the first time in God knows how many years, 50 years, that a leading Democratic candidate at this time hasn't been above 25%. This doesn't happen at this time. And he was at, uh, it was a CNN poll that came out, CNN, uh, poll that they did. That's the one right there? Yeah, this is the first time since 92 cycle, almost 40 years. Uh, no, 30, 35, 34 years. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:49:59Speaker 06

  Alright clown car at this point on the Democratic side. I mean, just take a look here. Top choices for the 2028 Dem-Prez nominee. You have a leader, but it's not really a clear leader. It's within the margin of error. You have Newsom at 19%. Then you have former Vice President Kamala Harris at 18%. Quite a weak number for her, given that, of course, she was the nominee last time around. Pete Buttigieg, who, of course, has run before, 13%. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez at 12%. This is just a total clown car. It is a total mess. There is no clear frontrunner at this particular point on the Democratic side. Who the heck knows who the nominee is going to be in three, two years?

• 1:50:35Speaker 05

  It's been a long time since we've had a Democratic race like this.

• 1:50:39Speaker 06

  Yeah, it has been a long time. This is very unusual for the Democratic side to not have a clear frontrunner at this point. National early poll leader at at least 25%. Look at this. This year, we get the giant question mark. No one, no one, no one, no one. In 2020, when there was no incumbent, it was Joe Biden who was there. Hillary Clinton in both 08 and 16, and Al Gore in both 2000 and 2004 at this point were at least at 25% of the early polls. You have to go all the way back, all the way back from when I wasn't even in elementary school yet, not even in pre-K yet, to 1992. That was the last cycle in which there was no clear frontrunner at this point. Very unusual.

• 1:51:20Speaker 02

  Looks Persian, acts Persian.

• 1:51:22Patrick Bet-David?

  He has the beard of a Persian.

• 1:51:23Speaker 02

  We love theatrics. He says it's a clown show because of the numbers.

• 1:51:30Patrick Bet-David?

  On CNN. He works for CNN.

• 1:51:33Speaker 02

  But it's a clown show because of the shallow talent pool. You look at that, they've got nothing. Newsom is there most likely, and you look at what he did in San Francisco, what he did in California. The man is a bloody pathological liar. Did you see the lie about "I don't read"? And then there's clips of him talking about speed reading a novel, like a book, 200 odd pages and a couple of hours. I mean, this guy is not even good at lying. And... And he is still going to get the most golden run from the media, from the celebrity class, from just every, you know, element of the culture is going to back him.

• 1:52:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Look, I think-

• 1:52:16Speaker 02

  Which is the Democrat advantage. They always get this.

• 1:52:19Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a, if there's a, ever been a time where a Democrat is sitting on the sidelines as an outsider wanted to get in? Right now is the time. The last story I want to show you and then we'll wrap up. This story I saw over the weekend and I couldn't believe it. This is about an Iranian girl. Who, let me read it, Rob, if you could. It's a Muslim man kidnaps a thirteen-year-old Christian girl, Maria, and held her captive for six months. He raped her, forced her to convert to Islam, and married her. When her father reported the abduction, the Sharia court ruled in favor of granting custody to the kidnapper. By the way, you can go to the bottom and read Grok, Rob. Go, go to the bottom in the comment section and, and the question where it's, is this true?

• 1:53:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, yes. Reports from Morning Star News, Christian Daily, and other confirmed thirteen-year-old Christian, Maria Shabazz, was abducted July twenty-nine, twenty-fifth, uh, two thousand twenty-five, in Lahore by thirty-year-old Muslim neighbor Shahirar Ahmad. Family says she was held six months, forcibly converted and married. Certificate ruled fake by lower courts. February third, twenty twenty-six, federal constitutional court granted him custody, accepting her statement. Family claims coercion over her birth records. No mainstream debunking found. Rob, go a little bit higher, play the clip. This is Iran for you, by the way, for the people that are watching, who are feminist and watch this.

• 1:53:43Speaker 02

  This is Pakistan, yeah?

• 1:53:45Patrick Bet-David?

  It is. This is Pakistan, yes.

• 1:53:52Speaker 02

  So that's when they took her?

• 1:53:53Patrick Bet-David?

  That's when they took her and they recorded it.

• 1:53:56Speaker 04

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• 1:55:01Speaker 02

  At least a family fought it. Sometimes the family is in on this.

• 1:55:05Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, you'll see clips like this in Iran. You'll see clips like this in Pakistan. You'll see clips like this all over the place.

• 1:55:13Speaker 02

  Anywhere there's Sharia law.

• 1:55:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Anywhere where there's Sharia law. So to the average person who sees this, there's no way, you know, there's no way this is real. This is fake. This can't be real.

• 1:55:23Speaker 02

  This happens in Pakistan. Pakistan is... Some of the human rights abuses there, the persecution of Christians, the forced conversion of Christians like this. And the fact that, you know, you can rape a child and then be given custody of her, even when her parents are fighting for her, and sometimes the parents don't fight. It's just so disgusting and heartbreaking. But this is the fate of girls in these countries. And again, when I said at the start, where is the feminist movement? Where are the marches for this? When Donald Trump got elected,

• 1:56:06Speaker 02

  we saw these pussy-hat marches around the world. They were in Melbourne and Sydney. They were all across the US or across Europe. Where are the marches for this girl? And so many others like her. It's just heartbreaking. And you'll see what's happened in Afghanistan. As soon as the Islamists take over... They go back to to instituting these sorts of um restrictions and allowing girls go to school there, forced marriages, and forced marriage is rape, that's what it is. I mean, forced marriage is almost giving it a clean title. It's it's rape. You're you're you're

• 1:56:46Speaker 02

  raping girls and women, and that's what's happening here. It's just sickening. Um I wasn't aware of this particular case, but the the Christian population in Pakistan have it terribly hard, and all they need is to have some accusations, so you could have some disgruntled neighbor, work colleague, make an accusation that they've blasphemed or they've done so, and they will

• 1:57:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:57:14Speaker 02

  They the police will arrest them. They could face a death sentence for blasphemy, but even worse than that, if the mob get to them before the police, they will slaughter them, and that's happened so many times. Um, uh, so that's, yeah, the that's why the Christian population there has been decimated. It's

• 1:57:35Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, you know, it's it's interesting. If Iran decided to go get eventually a nuclear, say they stick stick around and and the sun makes it. I know he's injured, he's wounded. They're they're claiming a bunch of different things with pelvis, all these other things that he's injured with elbow, shoulder, all these things when they made the attacks, but he made it, survived it. Even when they were doing the introduction of the new supreme leader, he wasn't even at the event. He wasn't at the event. But if let's just say they retain power and they don't lose, and they've they sit there and they say, you killed my dad, you killed my wife, you killed my son, you killed my sister, you killed my nephews

• 1:58:15Patrick Bet-David?

  and nieces. I'm going to seek vengeance on Israel and Iran, Israel and US. You know where they're going to get their nuclear weapon from? From these guys, Pakistan.

• 1:58:24Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, that's a frightening thing that Pakistan has nuclear weapons.

• 1:58:30Patrick Bet-David?

  And not just one of them or two of them.

• 1:58:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58:32Patrick Bet-David?

  We got a few hundred of them.

• 1:58:33Speaker 02

  But the the mullahs in Iran would use them. I fully believe they would use them. They've said they would. I mean, we you look at what their philosophy is, what their stated goals are. They would, and even how they're behaving now, this is sort of almost indiscriminate, just,

• 1:58:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:58:50Speaker 02

  you know, that they don't mind that the that they're targeting their Arab neighbors and the Arab neighbors are going to be, you know, not very happy with them. They don't care. They they are just uh having, hopefully, one last um outburst before it's all over. But yeah, I'm still not a hundred percent confident. I'm still not a hundred percent confident the regime's done and dusted.

• 1:59:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You got to get rid of two hundred thousand of them. It's gonna take a lot of work. It's gonna take a lot of work for them to surrender. So.

• 1:59:22Speaker 02

  And they've got all the arms.

• 1:59:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, they do. They got all the arms. And if they try to go attack from Strait of Hormuz and Trump said something today, he said, hey, uh, these leaders with these ships, you got to start having some courage to go through. Stop being so afraid. I don't know if he called them chicken or something, but he said something about stop being afraid. Go through it. We have to show strength. If they do anything, I'm gonna attack them twenty times worse than well. Is this it, Rob?

• 1:59:49Speaker 06

  Yes, it's he said it to Brian Kilmeade. Brian Kilmeade recounts it right now.

• 1:59:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:59:54Speaker 07

  So Brian, you did a phone interview with the President of the United States. What is his read on this?

• 1:59:59Speaker 06

  So I asked him, how do you get that? How do you get the prices down? I know how much you care about oil and gas. And he says, tell these tankers to get themselves, get to it. We've wiped out most of their launchers. Here's exactly what he said. These ships should go through the Strait of Hormuz and show some guts. There's nothing to be afraid of. They have no navy. We sunk all their ships. He went on to say. He said, look, yeah, there's risk in the region, the region's volatile, there are launchers, there's just about a hundred and fifty left, that's just about twenty percent of totals, they can't regenerate, they can't make any more. And we are in the region, we're ready to act quickly on all these types of attacks. Now, I think they're gonna get some naval, additional naval assets in there to do some escorting, but there was a tanker that came through last night, yesterday.

• 2:00:42Speaker 02

  Successfully.

• 2:00:42Speaker 06

  Yeah, successfully, no problem. And he's saying, come on, guys, get to it.

• 2:00:46Patrick Bet-David?

  So Brian, you did a follow up interview with the.

• 2:00:48Speaker 02

  It's a big ask though, but yeah, if you've got the, if you've got them being escorted by Navy ships, I'm sure they will open it up. But it's a big ask to ask them to go through when they're under the threat. I understand the Navy has been pretty much destroyed, yeah.

• 2:01:06Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not an easy decision, it's not an easy decision.

• 2:01:08Speaker 02

  It's not easy.

• 2:01:09Patrick Bet-David?

  But he is saying he wants to make sure China gets the oil they want. So we'll see. I mean, listen, stories are so fluid right now.

• 2:01:16Speaker 02

  He wants China to get the oil they want.

• 2:01:18Patrick Bet-David?

  He said he wants China, he wants to help China get the oil they need.

• 2:01:21Speaker 02

  Some very astute analysts would argue that everything Trump has done has been primarily motivated by the thought of starving China of energy. You look at Venezuela, you look at Iran, Iran, ninety percent of its oil was going to China. So,

• 2:01:40Speaker 02

  it's so clever because China is the greatest threat long term. And Trump is thinking like the Chinese think, which is thinking medium to long term, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty years. And he's seeing the China threat and he's tackling it in a very smart way. Starving them of energy is genius. And yeah, that's seems to be a happy consequence, or perhaps it was a big part of his plan.

• 2:02:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Hegelian dialectic, I think it's called, where create the problem.

• 2:02:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Blame somebody else and then come out and be the person that's gonna help save them.

• 2:02:19Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 2:02:20Patrick Bet-David?

  And be the solution. And hey China, I'm gonna get you the oil you need. I'm your friend. I'll help you out. So if he's doing that, listen, good for him for doing that. But anyways, Rita, great having you on. It's been a great conversation. I'm glad I finally had a chance to meet you. For the audience that's watching this, go subscribe to Leftists Losing It Show. You can find it all over the place. She's a rock star. Subscribe to her Instagram, Twitter, X, everything you got. And then anybody that's got questions, you can also ask her question on Manect. Rita, amazing. Looking forward to seeing you move to Florida soon. Hopefully, God willing. We'll see. Maybe, uh, maybe Panama City in that area is gonna get you.

• 2:02:57Speaker 02

  Panama City, that is.

• 2:02:58Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a nice area.

• 2:02:59Speaker 02

  God's own country there.

• 2:03:00Patrick Bet-David?

  It is. It's beautiful.

• 2:03:01Speaker 02

  You know, you're gonna have a place there, maybe Fort Worth. I like the Cowboys there.

• 2:03:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Fort Worth?

• 2:03:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:03:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You feel safe at Fort Worth?

• 2:03:07Speaker 02

  I like, yeah.

• 2:03:08Patrick Bet-David?

  The beach is not a nice beach. I know you like beaches.

• 2:03:11Speaker 02

  I know.

• 2:03:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Australia's gotta be Fort Worth.

• 2:03:13Speaker 02

  But then you've got the Florida Panhandle, best beaches in the country. So you've got the best of both worlds.

• 2:03:18Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll see. Anyways, great having you on. Take care, everybody. Bye bye, bye bye.

• 2:03:24Speaker 04

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