Insurrection Act, Trump's Nobel Peace Prize, Clintons Subpoena + Sinema Scandal w/ Ann Coulter | PBD Podcast | Ep. 719

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick are joined by Ann Coulter to break down growing Insurrection Act chaos, Trump being gifted a Nobel Peace Prize, and the explosive scandal surrounding Senator Kyrsten Sinema. ------ 🖊️ANN COULTER'S SUBSTACK: https://bit.ly/45dytTf ✝️ FAITH OVER FEAR COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3MIFOUu 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:14Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 0:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one? My son's right there.

• 0:20Speaker 00

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, we got a special friend in the house, Ann Coulter. Great to have you back on. Good to be here. Yes, great to have you back on, thank you. This is the interim set, we're rebuilding the other set. So next time we'll take you to the other set that we're building. And Tom, for 20 years, still doesn't know how to turn off his phone. Get his phone away from his... Rob, can you do me a favor? No, no, do me this favor. Rob, please grab Tom's phone because he just watches the live the entire time. Gets distracted. Can you please come and grab Tom's phone? Do me a favor and do that. I do this at dinner. Because it always makes noise. Grab it from him and set him aside. Go ahead and grab it from him and set it aside. Thank you, alright, finally.

• 1:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Can I defend Tom for a second? Because what did I do 30 seconds before the show?

• 1:07Patrick Bet-David?

  He said, "Hey, make sure your phone's off."

• 1:08Tom Ellsworth?

  So he doesn't even listen. When he's recommended, Tom.

• 1:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom has a rule of three. Here's Tom's rule of three. First time you say "Tom", he's still here. Second time you say "Tom", in his brain, he goes, "Tom, Tom." By the third time you say "Tom", he hears it. It's just a rule of threes.

• 1:26Tom Ellsworth?

  By that point, the phone's already rang seven times.

• 1:28Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what that's called? That's called when you are maniacally focused, you hear no noise. Signal noise. Make some noise for Tom. Tom, out there, baby. For being focused on the signal.

• 1:38Tom Ellsworth?

  It's also the myth of the married man, where after 10 years of marriage, it's always, "I'm sorry, I didn't hear you till the third time you called." Great defense mechanism, respect.

• 1:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I'm sure Kim appreciates that. Guys, while this is going on, there's this, uh... Apparently this story about a lady. Who would fly in his, her bodyguard and would give him Molly MDMA. And the ex-wife of the bodyguard is suing her. Am I saying it correctly, Rob? This sounds like a movie. Kirsten Sinema, which is a very interesting story. No, no, this is actually, you know, we'll talk about that. Trump insurrection, there's some things going on in there. We'll talk about that. Obviously, a lot's going on with Iran. Brett Baer did a phenomenal interview with the Iran Foreign Minister. And it got heated because he was calling him out, so we'll get into that. This is like Ann Coulter, all she wants to talk about is Iran.

• 2:31Patrick Bet-David?

  She said right before, that is the most exciting story I want to talk about. That's her number one story. So we want to make sure Ann's like, she wanted to go do nine stories on Iran. We said, we can't do that many. But we will do a couple. Iran issues sickening assassination threat against Trump. Iranian protester's family says execution has been postponed, which is good news. Trump praises Iran's exiled royal as very nice, but doesn't go as far as fully supporting regime change with him. Trump brags about a very good call with terrific Venezuelan president ahead of meeting with opposition leader. That came through, I think, yesterday. Karina Machado, if I'm not mistaken, Rob, handed over the Nobel Peace Prize. Yep.

• 3:15Patrick Bet-David?

  To Trump, and there was a picture about it, but Caroline Levitt, right afterwards, said something very interesting. She said, "His opinion on her still hasn't changed." As being the leader. I know, and you probably got some thoughts on that. We'll come to you with that. Trump says he supports Venezuela. Remaining in OPEC, Tom has some thoughts on that, which I don't know if it really means remaining in OPEC. Trump confirms leaker on Venezuela in jail. Very bad leaker is who he was. Buying Greenland. Could cost as much as $700 billion. I don't know who's coming up with that number, but that's what NBC News is saying. Josh Hawley, I mean, listen, Trump, Tom's got the three rule, right?

• 3:56Patrick Bet-David?

  He asked this lady the same question 11 times, and she still wouldn't answer. And allegedly, she's a doctor, which at the end, I think she says, "Call me by my, you know, call me doctor." It reminded me of that scene paging Doctor, you know, from the movie. I don't want to finish the rest, but you know, yeah, wonderful movie documentary. But facing corrupt threat Clintons refused to testify in Epstein's inquiry. Now here's what's weird. Can you imagine Jon Stewart? Who gets in and says they should absolutely comply with Epstein subpoena and go testify. All right. So even Jon Stewart wants to see Clintons get involved.

• 4:35Patrick Bet-David?

  White House responds to Joe Rogan's warning that ICE behaviors Minneapolis resembles Hitler's Gestapo. Exodus of immigrants, a hit for the US economy study says that's a barren story. Fetterman, who is more and more becoming a very logical player, says ICE should continue arrests and not slow down. That's Fetterman for you. Renee Good's former father-in-law doesn't blame ICE agent for shooting. Illegal Venezuelan migrant shot in Minneapolis after mercilessly ambushing Fed agent with snow shovel. This was an interesting story because two things were going on at the same time. We'll talk about that.

• 5:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Lefty LA poll polls tout mansion tax, but less than 1% of the billion has gone to affordable housing. Very, very good story. We'll get into that as well. California billionaires rage at huge tax bill to fund illegal immigrant held subsidies. Stephen A. Smith calls that Jasmine Crockett for ducking him after she hurled racial insults at him, calling him Django. And a couple of other things, which we'll get into that. And then I got a few other stories here on what happened with Dilbert cartoonist. Final message, you guys saw the ex-wife, which she said, which was amazing. But did you see what the journalist, how they?

• 5:49Speaker 03

  Yes, from People Magazine.

• 5:50Patrick Bet-David?

  For sure. We have to cover that as well. Goldman Sachs predicts blockbuster 2026 for M and A mega deals. Vinnie's got entire analysis on that.

• 5:58Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 5:58Patrick Bet-David?

  And then that's where we are. So with that being said, Vinnie's got something special he wants to share with you guys. And when Vinnie does this, it's a very, very special moment. So Vinnie, tell us what you've been working on.

• 6:09Speaker 03

  Thank you, Pat. So as you guys know, I have the faith over fear line in this shirt that I'm wearing right now is our newest. Faith over fear was more of how you live. This shirt is. On How You Stand, so in Isaiah, chapter 6, verse 8, Isaiah has a vision of God and his throne. And he's asking, he wants somebody to step up to go to Israel to, you know, call people to God. They're resisting, they're rejecting him. And God says, "Whom shall I send and who will go for us?" And Isaiah, knowing the cost, just answers quick. He goes, "Here am I, send me." And there's actually a moment, Pat, in the movie Fury. Do you guys remember Shia LaBeouf? His name is Bible in the movie. John Bernthal, Brad Pitt, they're in this tank division. The tank has been destroyed. Okay, they know that they're all gonna die.

• 6:52Speaker 03

  They can run, they could leave, but they choose to stay there and delay the enemy from advancing. And Shia LaBeouf has that moment where he goes, "This is a righteous act, gentlemen." And he quotes the verse from Isaiah. He goes, "Here am I, send me." So it's about answering the call even when it costs everything. So that's what this shirt means today. It's speaking the word when it's unpopular and standing firm regardless of the consequences. And so the front of the shirt is Isaiah 6:8. Value Tainment is here. And that's the back of the shirt, right there. "Here am I, send me." It's live right now on VTmerch.com. Get you guys a shirt and yeah.

• 7:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Proud of you, buddy. By the way, last time- I'm proud of you for reading the Torah.

• 7:35Speaker 03

  You're welcome.

• 7:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, last time he did this, 10,000 Faith Over Fear shirts were picked up. So go pick yourself up a shirt and represent. All right, with that being said, let's get right into it. I want to go into the top story. What could happen if Trump invokes the Insurrection Act in Minnesota? Okay, so let's go through this. Rob, I think you got a couple clips on this. President Trump on Thursday tweeted this, or Truth Social this. "If the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey the law and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the patriots of ICE, who are only trying to do their job, I will institute the Insurrection Act, which many presidents have done before me, and quickly put an end to the travesty that is taking place

• 8:20Patrick Bet-David?

  in that once great state. Thank you for your attention, Donald J. Trump." And how do you feel about this?

• 8:28Speaker 04

  Of course he should do this, and I don't even think he needs to invoke the Insurrection Act. It's funny how The New York Times avoids talking about the two most famous incidents of presidents sending troops against the wishes of a state's governor. Eisenhower sending them to Little Rock because to walk nine black schoolchildren into the school. Why? Because they were disobeying federal law. It was a Supreme Court ruling, you can't discriminate. The governors, the mayors were saying, "We're going to keep discriminating." And so Eisenhower sends, you know, the 101st Airborne to walk these nine black -- and then JFK did the same thing in Alabama, directly against the governor. The governor called out his own national troops, George Wallace, famous name.

• 9:12Speaker 04

  That was to walk two students into University of Alabama. So we have nine sad black students, two sad black students, and of course, the Constitution and federal law being violated, and they go down in history as heroes. Minnesota is violating federal law. Immigration law is federal. The Supreme Court has held this one million times. They did it, I'll just say briefly, because it's recent. I mean, I've been alive in America for more than two weeks. When Arizona passed that, what everybody called the Papers Please Law, you'll remember that, oh, it's like Nazi Germany, which was upheld by the Supreme Court, at least that one provision. The rest of the law was overturned.

• 9:55Speaker 04

  All Arizona had said is, "We want to comply with the federal government. We're going to help. We aren't going to do anything that federal immigration law doesn't say, but we're going to help enforce federal immigration law." Obama was president, and he sued, saying, "I don't want to enforce federal immigration law." The Supreme Court says, "Federal government wins." So absolutely, he has constitutional authority to do this. And if you look at how the governor and the mayor are behaving, I mean, just today, I think the governor, Tim Walz, said Minnesota is an island. Well, no, you're not an island from federal law.

• 10:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Did he really say he's an island?

• 10:32Speaker 04

  Yes, that, I mean, that's like seceding from the Union. Of course, he should send federal troops.

• 10:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow, Tom, your thoughts on this? Well, you and I lived in Los Angeles at a time in 1992, which was also a time that the Insurrection Act was under the riots Rodney King. And the city was being torn apart. The police were overwhelmed. And when the police are overwhelmed, that's when the National Guard comes in. This is when, look, a hurricane or an earthquake happens and our governors say, hey, we have a disaster area. I need you to declare me a disaster area so that I can get federal funds. And by the way, can you please send relief, people, troops, supplies, whatever it is? And so, and we'll ignore the failure of Hurricane Katrina. But in Los Angeles, we had Korean shopkeepers

• 11:21Tom Ellsworth?

  that were on top trying to protect their own buildings. And it was invoked at that time appropriately. This is exactly when it should be invoked. And it's interesting that everybody's clinging to the word insurrection in the media because that was a word they clung to on January 6th because they had to make it an insurrection because an insurrection is the operative term that was in the Constitution that they wanted to pin on, oh, you've created an insurrection, on Trump. So when you look at this, I think not only is this appropriate, it is not appropriate, it's urgent, it's obligatory. It's not should Trump do it. It's why is he waiting for any opinion to say, this is out of control here and I have to protect

• 12:05Tom Ellsworth?

  the people of the state because it's the Union. It's one of the states of the Union. So I gotta step in here.

• 12:11Speaker 03

  I think, I think he's late. I think this should have happened the day after the incident happened with Be Good, whatever Renee Good with the pin wearing all. But can we just take a step back?

• 12:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Martyr de jour.

• 12:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, exactly. We're watching a state. This is, this is, look at the timeline. A state that was just exposed for one of, if not the biggest fraud scandals in the history of the United States. Scott Bessin. Came out and said 10% of our money is going to fraud $600 billion a year. And is it just a coincidence that all this stuff is happening here that they've he they've energized these people? They probably this isn't happening organically. You you think these people with all the same signs, all the same movement. Um, Cash Patel came out yesterday and said, if you think this is just organic, you're insane. And they're gonna go after all of them.

• 12:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Six hundred billion?

• 13:00Speaker 03

  Six hundred billion.

• 13:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, you have that clip?

• 13:02Speaker 03

  Six hundred billion dollars a year. This is it right here.

• 13:05Speaker 05

  Investigations and the these men and women, they are cool cats. They they can take apart a balance sheet and they can knock down a door and arrest someone. Like they go out on patrols, they can make arrests. It it's this very interesting hybrid force, about 2,500 of them. And they led the charge here. So it was IRS CIs who uncovered the initial fraud and the prosecutions. So um, it's with that group, uh, with uh, other groups at IRS and with the powers of the treasury

• 13:48Speaker 05

  to track where the money came from, where it's going. And we we saw this very unsettling news yesterday that uh, many people involved here with the administration of these programs have tried to go back and they recreate documents, change documents.

• 14:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, when does he say 600 billion?

• 14:08Speaker 05

  We're not, we're not gonna have that. We are going to hold people accountable. We're going to uh, press this to the full extent possible. And like I said, I I think that this may just be, it's a cold day outside. So this could be the tip of the iceberg uh, here here in Minnesota. But it's probably may not be as prevalent, but the dollars may be bigger and larger in other states. And just to put this in in perspective for for American taxpayers, for American families, the the GAO, the General Accounting Office, believes that there is somewhere between three and 600 billion of annual fraud, roughly 10% of government spending.

• 14:52Speaker 03

  10%.

• 14:53Speaker 05

  That disappears due to fraud. If we can recapture that.

• 14:57Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause that right there. How do you not track that though?

• 14:59Speaker 03

  How, yeah, how?

• 15:00Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you not track that and find out who it's going to?

• 15:03Speaker 03

  Government? Well, wasn't that Doge? Intentionally. And wasn't Doge's job supposed to go in, find all this situation? And just really quick, Pat, if you, if you, because this is where I'm coming from. Is it, I'm putting two to two together. They just got exposed, so instead of going, yeah, guys, let's just face the fire. They take this moment, because they were pushing it. Tim Walz is like, the Gestapo, this. This is one of those moments like in House of Cards, where they sit there and they wait for a moment to happen and they capitalize. This was their moment. Now it's, hey, don't worry about the fraud. It's, Trump is a Nazi, these people are Gestapo. And I just hope that, I know Cash Patel said he's going to be looking into it. Like I said last week, I don't care about basketball gambling. That's a whole different situation. This is six, this is hundreds of billions of dollars a year.

• 15:48Speaker 03

  This is what we care about. And this is all a show to distract everybody from what the real problem is. And that's the problem. They've imported all these people. They've, they've, they're, they're not working, Pat. They're sitting there and they're scamming us and nobody's going to care about it? I'm, I'm sorry.

• 16:02Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a loop. And the loop we saw are Ukraine. Ukraine gets a bunch of money, but a lot of it's allocated for defense. It comes right back to general dynamics and Boeing and Northrop.

• 16:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Money laundering.

• 16:12Tom Ellsworth?

  And all them comes back. They then send equipment to Ukraine. Now they have these billions of dollars. They say thank you through a lobbyist. They say thank you through a PAC. And now the money that Senator Blowhard voted to send to Ukraine has made a loop back and Senator Blowhard has got PAC money and campaign money back in. And it is an eternal cycle and that's how they keep stasis. That is their stability, these cycles. And now, all they've done in Minnesota is it wasn't a foreign war. It was a systemic fraud loop that they created. Except now, the unintended consequence, which the, which the creators

• 16:53Tom Ellsworth?

  or the intentional closed eyes created was money went to Al Shabab and then some of that money came back. So all of a sudden, enclosed, enclosed rooms, you gotta believe that Walz and others in closed rooms is like, crap.

• 17:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me do this before I come to you, Adam. I want you to see this. Watch this US rep from Minnesota, Angie Cray. Look what she says here and tell me if this is helping out. Go ahead, Rob.

• 17:17Speaker 06

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• 18:28Speaker 09

  Look, I'm not in the room with leadership, but what I can tell you, what is happening in America, the path that we are traveling certainly reminds me of many of the images that we saw in the 1930s in Germany. And we should stand up to this lawless administration. And right now, nothing should be off the table.

• 18:52Patrick Bet-David?

  To be able to say something like that and get away with it, right?

• 18:54Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 18:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your thoughts?

• 18:56Tom Ellsworth?

  I miss the part in Germany where foreigners created fraud. I miss that part. There is an extermination that was going on. First the criminals, then the gypsies, then the people in asylums, and then later, the horror of the Holocaust. So I miss the part in Germany where there is a fraud loop.

• 19:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So ridiculous.

• 19:15Adam Sosnick?

  Well, this whole... Shenanigans comes down to one word for me, and that's midterms. So we're in a perpetual election cycle in this country. And as Tom has always pointed out, they're looking for their next George Floyd. And guess what? They found her and her name is Renee Good. So, by the way, the heroes of the left are a little bit different than heroes of the right. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk, absolute hero. Heroes of the left are George Floyd, drug addict, wife beater, woman beater. And this woman who's a weaponized agent against ICE. So to me, the bigger story here is there may be a kernel of truth in all this. But then you have what I would call people just looking to act a fool.

• 19:57Adam Sosnick?

  So if you remember after Rodney King, 1992, okay, that guy got his ass whipped by the police. We get it. But now people in LA want to burn down their entire city as retribution. And I remember after Katrina, uh, they started looting. And then the great Greg Giraldo, the comedian goes, no, I understand you want to get some stuff, but you need a TV and some beer in the middle of a hurricane? Like, that seems a little inappropriate. And then the whole conversation about what the BLM riots did in Minnesota, you know? Callback. The ironic thing, shout out to Alanis Morissette, is Donald Trump was accused of doing a insurrection. Look at what's happening in all these cities.

• 20:37Adam Sosnick?

  Last point, just to my friends on the left, on the right, enough with the Holocaust stuff. I was actually with a Holocaust survivor, 95-year-old woman. I mean, and she's an amazing woman. She's the grandmother of my good friend Jeremy. And I said, hey, um, you know, they, they, they, they're saying a lot of things are akin to the Holocaust these days, you know, this thing in ICE. And she goes, oh, yes. Um, well, I was one of eight children. All my other siblings were murdered. Uh, my entire family. Was put into Auschwitz, a concentration camp.

• 21:19Adam Sosnick?

  My aunts, my uncles, grandparents, they're all dead. So, please forgive me if I protest Nazi Germany. I'm sorry. Like, thank you for having some sort of rationale here. There's a big difference between protesting and, God forbid, something get injured or killed, whatever, versus the intentional genocide of an entire population.

• 21:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, but that's a great argument point you're making. But here's Joe Rogan talking about what it looks like on TV, what it's looking like to the average person that's watching it. Go ahead, Rob.

• 21:56Speaker 11

  You don't want militarized people in the streets just roaming around, snatching people up, many of which turn out to actually be US citizens, they just don't have their papers on them? Are we really gonna be the Gestapo, where's your papers? Is that what we've come to?

• 22:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Ann, what do you think about what Joe said there?

• 22:13Speaker 04

  Um, I'm, I'm just horrified that my party is so bereft of Hollywood celebrities that they will latch on to someone who was a janitor in a 1970s sitcom and make him into this hero. Um, I've always thought Joe Rogan is a moron. If young men are looking for a masculine podcast, I would definitely recommend this one over that. I mean, his, his claim to fame is he was first, so he gets interesting interviewees, but if the people he's talking to are interesting, he's not interesting.

• 22:47Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think Joe's interesting?

• 22:48Speaker 04

  No.

• 22:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I think 10s.

• 22:49Speaker 04

  No, and I think what he just said was utterly beyond moronic.

• 22:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you ever met him?

• 22:52Speaker 04

  In fact, you've just, I mean, I think you just demolished what he said there. I think everybody has this idea. They've been saying this since 2015 about Trump. Oh, which reminds me, I make fun of it in my book, In Trump We Trust, all of these op-eds in 1930s, we're back to this. And he's comparing this to the Gestapo, as I just pointed out earlier. The one part of, of the Arizona law that was upheld by the Supreme Court was what liberals were all saying, "Oh, it's papers, please, it's papers." No, it's reasonable cause. We're looking for illegal aliens. Of course you can consider accents, ability to speak English, what someone looks like. That is part of the many things

• 23:37Speaker 04

  they are looking at. And the idea that they're pulling aside citizens, it's less than 1% of citizens who have even been briefly detained. It's less than 1% fraud as opposed to 10% fraud in these Feed Your Families programs.

• 23:56Speaker 03

  If you don't mind. Well, I actually have the numbers. So in the past, great point, and in the last 12 months, there have been 100, this is one year, 170 confirmed instances in which an American citizen was temporarily or improperly detained by ICE, okay? In that same timeframe, there have been approximately 622,000 forced deportations, okay? So, and to your point, this puts ICE's improper temporary detention rate at .027. So in other words, ICE is doing a fantastic job and has a 99.973% success rate, okay? And I respect Joe, but for saying the Gestapo

• 24:37Speaker 03

  and stuff, it's like they've caught the Gestapo bug. You know why? Because during Obama, you never saw it. CNN never showed it. MSNBC never showed it. Fox never, nobody ever aired this stuff, okay? And just to add on top of it, Trump wants to be number one, so he has to catch Obama, which got 5 million out. At this pace, he's not going to do it. The Department of Homeland Security has publicly claimed that 1.9 undocumented illegal immigrants have voluntarily self-deported, okay, since Trump took office. If you know it's coming, I know it's hard, you have to leave. Trump is enforcing the law. He didn't make the law. 1.9 million. You didn't say million. 1.9 million. I'm sorry. 1.9 million people were like, you know what? They're coming.

• 25:22Speaker 03

  Let me leave, get my stuff together, and potentially come back the right way. I don't see the problem. Because think about it, Trump's kicking ass, sorry for my language, on every other aspect. This is the one thing they have to do. You know why? Democratic Party, Democratic Party running on. What is Gavin Newsom was yesterday on with Ben Shapiro. He has nothing. It's just lie after lie after lie. This is all they run on is hatred for us. It's hatred for us. Gestapo, Hitler. It's like, it's enough, enough.

• 25:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Emotion and outrage are absent and they don't have a platform.

• 25:54Speaker 03

  There's no platform. They have no policy. They have nothing. They have no leaders. They have nothing.

• 25:58Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I think this was a really bad take by Joe Rogan, but that doesn't mean he's a bad person. In fact, respectfully, he's the GOAT of podcasting. So you said his claim to fame, he was first. Touche, the great Ann Coulter. He's still first. Remember when we were with Rogan and he goes, listen, I'm number one in 92 countries. That's a big difference between being number 92 in one country. So the challenge that Rogan will have is he's so good and he's so big. One bad take, and this was a bad take respectfully, Mr. Rogan. It's going to get amplified. Even the White House responds, but overall he's the GOAT in the podcasting space.

• 26:39Adam Sosnick?

  He's still number one and he's gonna, you know, give him a little grace to make some mistakes. I would love to see him walk that back.

• 26:46Patrick Bet-David?

  When, when I had a guy came to my place, Tom, you'll remember this. He sent me this offer. He says, please take this to the president. Tom Homan, they need to see this. He said, for you to be able to deport 10 million people, here's what the budget's going to be. You need people that are going to be finding folks. You need trucks. You need this. He said, it's going to take you 700. He gave a massive number of what it was going to take. Okay, great. When they started saying, we're going to deport, we're going to, you know, get rid of all these illegal immigrants. The first thing I went to is people that are emotional, that are just like regular people that are gonna watch the content.

• 27:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You know how much great content is going to be produced to show how evil the current regime is? And they're taking them back to their country and separating them from their family. And look how cold they are and look how this they are. So the average person, no matter who you are, who is not studying the numbers, who is not looking into this closely, is going to look at that and is going to say, I cannot believe we're doing this. I can, and then you study history and then you're explaining the history of insurrection, what Eisenhower did, what Kennedy did, Alabama, all this stuff. And if somebody goes, looks at the history, it's like, wait a minute. We've been doing this for many, many times. You have to do this to keep the American people safe. But I do believe because it's such an emotional situation

• 28:11Patrick Bet-David?

  that even the best and the brightest can fall for it and say, this is not fair. And millions will say, that's what we need. We need more people like this that are empathetic. But the reality of it is, how many people it's gonna take to do the next 9/11? Go ahead and let's, let's figure out right now, this year, what's coming up this year in June, July? Hey, I heard it's our 250th birthday, baby. But hang on a second. World Cup is coming here, okay? So, so let one massive event take place. Let, let Munich, you thought what happened with Munich? Yeah, with the Olympics in 72. Let's something like that happen here. And then it's an illegal immigrant that came here, not from Mexico, not from Guatemala, not from El Salvador.

• 28:54Patrick Bet-David?

  But let's just say this person came from the Middle East, boom, boom. And then they do something, then thousands of people die, then we have to stop the World Cup, then we have to stop the games. And then who's gonna be looking at saying thing, oh, you know what? All that stuff you were doing on the streets, why didn't you do more of it? Trump should have cleaned house better. You should have been more proactive. Oh, now you're saying that? Yep. And, and the problem, I was in the insurance space for 25 years. When you sell life insurance, the, the, the average person you talk to with life insurance and you say, like, I remember when I told my dad, I'm getting to the insurance space, he says, how does this work? I said, you pay a hundred dollars every month. But if you die, the insurance company will give you $250,000. He says, you believe this America company pay you $250,000?

• 29:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So I pay a hundred dollars three months. That's $300. A company called AIG is gonna pay me $250,000? You're crazy if you believe it, right? The average person. But the reality of it is, you know how many time we had a client that paid a couple premiums? And then we're dealing with $500,000 policy? So many times. So many times. You don't buy insurance because you're gonna die tomorrow. You buy in case. We have to be very proactive with this. I'm glad he's doing it. But I also get you can fall for the emotional videos and sit there and say, what an evil thing that we're doing. We don't have to do this.

• 30:10Speaker 04

  You know, to expand on your point, um...

• 30:14Speaker 04

  Yes, the media is very powerful and yes, a lot of people are, I think, falling for this. On the other hand, I don't quite believe the polls. I mean, the original polls from the New York Times and places like that were that the vast majority of Americans wanted Trump to deport all illegal aliens. New York Times published this like six months.

• 30:34Patrick Bet-David?

  It was 60-plus percent of you, if I remember correctly.

• 30:35Speaker 04

  All, criminal or not. And, and as with, with life insurance, somebody dying, there are, there are a lot of Molly Tibbits out there. There are a lot of families who have been, not only had, had children or relatives murdered or, or killed in drunk driving accidents, but victims of 9/11. That was an immigration problem. Um, who, who, whose neighborhoods have been overtaken, um, whose pets are being eaten, or whatever.

• 31:03Patrick Bet-David?

  They're eating the dogs.

• 31:06Speaker 04

  And it goes out in concentric circles. It doesn't have to be you whose child, who, whose child died. That whole neighborhood knows about that child. And I think there are a lot of Americans who are not as, as vocal as some of those on the left who are looking at this and saying, "I don't care. I don't care. Just get them out." Um, Biden brought in 20 million. We gotta get them out.

• 31:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. By the way, I want to show something here. Rob, can you do me a favor? Find a clip of Caroline Levitt talking to this reporter.

• 31:36Speaker 04

  I love this.

• 31:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody has to watch this. Watch this clip here, folks.

• 31:40Speaker 04

  From the top rope.

• 31:41Speaker 12

  Unfortunately and tragically killed.

• 31:45Speaker 13

  Are you asking me my opinion? Because an ICE agent acted recklessly and killed an unjustified.

• 31:49Speaker 12

  Oh, okay. So you're a biased reporter with a left-wing opinion.

• 31:52Speaker 13

  What do you want me to do?

• 31:53Speaker 12

  Yeah, because you're a left-wing hack. You're not a reporter. You're posing in this room as a journalist and it's so clear by the premise of your question. And you and the people in the media who have such biases but fake like you're a journalist, you shouldn't even be sitting in that seat. But you're pretending like you're a journalist, but you're a left-wing activist. And the question that you just raised and your answer proves your bias. You should be reporting on the facts. You should be reporting on the cases. Do you have the numbers of how many American citizens were killed at the hands of illegal aliens who ISIS tried to kill? trying to remove from this country, I bet you don't. I bet you didn't even read up on those stories. I bet you never even read about Lake and Riley or Jocelyn Nungray or all of the innocent Americans who were killed at the hands of illegal aliens in this country.

• 32:36Speaker 12

  And the brave men and women of ICE are doing everything in their power to remove those heinous individuals and make our communities safer. And shame on people like you in the media. Oh, I could watch that all day. Who have a crooked view. I could watch it all day, man. And have a biased view and pretend like you're a real honest journalist.

• 32:52Adam Sosnick?

  Why was...

• 32:53Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, go ahead.

• 32:54Adam Sosnick?

  Can I react to that? By the way, Caroline Levin is a straight verbal assassin gangster. And I mean that in the highest possible way. No, one of us, I won't name names, was joking backstage. He's like, well, that's why I don't think women should be in power or leadership. Here's Exhibit A that that gentleman didn't know what he was talking about because there's Ann Coulter's of the world and Caroline Levitt's of the world that just dismiss all your preconceived notions. You know how when someone like has a mic drop thing and like they stop the video and sunglasses come in, they put a blunt in their mouth and it's like, yeah, yeah, and it's a gangster thing? She should have a hundred of those. Caroline Levin is a verbal gangster. Thank you for doing what you're doing for America.

• 33:32Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, this is what Fetterman said about it. Rob, if you want to go to Fetterman, I'll make this the last clip and then we'll move on to the next story. This is Fetterman. Go ahead, Rob.

• 33:41Speaker 14

  ...border and it was skyrocketing. You know, and it's like, that's unsustainable when you reach almost 300,000 people. That's unsustainable and we need to, you know, as a Democrat, it shouldn't be unreasonable to want to secure our border and do it in that way. And now let's also, let's also talk about ICE. Now, absolutely, again, what happened in Minneapolis was absolutely tragic. And then now if you think, now, this is from the Washington Post. You know, this is the latest statistics. These are people that ICE now are... No, it's like, no.

• 34:17Speaker 14

  67% have criminal charges, pending ones, or that, that, that. So that's more than two thirds, you know, the people now. Now, there are some people that aren't involved in any kinds of illegal things, you know. But so me, I think two things can be true, you know. Round up all the criminals, deport, deport them. They shouldn't have ever been here and they definitely have to go. And now I don't know, want to see more and more things happening in Minneapolis now too. So two things must be true. And I strongly reject the extreme on either side, you know, about this now. So we must be true and you know, I watched your.

• 34:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Pretty, pretty wild that he is becoming a voice of reason.

• 34:58Speaker 03

  Isn't that crazy?

• 34:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Him.

• 35:00Speaker 03

  It took one injury and he's back to normal. He's God bless him, but and, and, and at the end of the day, this is what drives me crazy. Cause Tom, I know you want to say something and he wants to move on. When you have the mayor and the, the governor and Ilhan Omar calling to action. Get in their faces, do this, they're the, and then something like this happens. How, where is the accountability? You want to talk about insurrection act? When, when they said Donald Trump told them to go and go in there and what to know. This is what they're doing and there has to be accountability for you sending in the troops. And then one of the troops gets killed and then it's like, no, no, no. I have, we have nothing to do with it. What are you, what were you gonna say, Tom?

• 35:39Tom Ellsworth?

  What I was gonna say is there's a case study on this if we want to really look at it. And it's called Portland, Oregon. And Portland, Oregon had all of these police officers, defund the police, defund the police. Police officers took early retirement. Police officers went to other parts of the country being paid a partial pension in Portland because they retired and then they became police officers elsewhere. Today in Portland, Oregon, the voters are asking to refund, not pay back, but let's fund the police. There is a shortage of 200 officers in Portland, Oregon today. The people feel less safe. The people are concerned about it. You can see it in bipartisan polling. There's the case study. There's where this ends.

• 36:22Tom Ellsworth?

  This ends years later, because we're now four years later in Portland, Oregon, without adequate police and with an insecure populace, they're looking around and saying, what the hell happened? There's the case study.

• 36:34Adam Sosnick?

  I just want to give a shout out to John Fetterman and all the other Democrats that have been supporting John, oh, none are, zero, no one else in the Democratic Party. So one thing he said is so important, he goes, uh, two things can be true at once. So for John Fetterman, you can be a Democrat, but also have common sense. Unfortunately, it starts and stops with John Fetterman.

• 36:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, well, I mean, there's another Democrat right now that left the Democratic Party and became an independent who is a fan of, uh, uh, her name is not Molly, but she's a fan of Molly. Rob, Rob told me the story this morning, I couldn't believe it. So, you know, here's Kirsten Sinema, Rob. Again, this could be, this sounds like from a movie, like this doesn't sound real. Rob, go ahead and play this clip.

• 37:19Speaker 15

  Former U.S. Senator Kirsten Sinema is being sued as a homewrecker for allegedly ruining a 14-year marriage. The lawsuit was filed in North Carolina by a woman named Heather Amell. She's the now ex-wife of a former Sinema bodyguard and Senate staffer. North Carolina is one of the few states that has a so-called home wrecker law, and that allows people to sue a spouse's lover who may have played a role in a breakup of a marriage. Amell claims Sinema had an affair with her husband during trips across the country and around the world, and that Sinema used campaign funds to pay for all of it. The senator also accused of ethics violations for those same trips while she was still in office. Amell is seeking more than $25,000 in damages.

• 38:01Speaker 15

  Her ex-husband, Matthew Amell, was hired as a security guard for Sinema in 2022. He later joined her Senate staff. Court papers claim Sinema sent encrypted messages to Amell on the app Signal that were of a romantic nature, and told him to bring the drug MDMA or Molly on a work trip so she could, quote, "guide him through a psychedelic experience because he was suffering from PTSD." He's a former service worker.

• 38:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Guide him. A lot of guidance. That's the word nowadays. Three years ago, it was entanglement, today it's guide me. Let me guide you or do, anyways, you can pause that right now. That's insane. Okay, so there was $75,000 from Sinema, Matthew and Heather. By the way, can we see what at least he looked like? He looks like the bodyguard. I'd like to see, I want to know what the bodyguard looks like and what the ex-wife looks like. If you can pull that up, there's on a lawmaker, head of security, Matthew Amell, uh, uh, after he retired from the Army in 2022. That can't be him. But that's him, and look at the way she's looking at him.

• 39:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that her behind her?

• 39:01Speaker 03

  Yes. Yes, indeed.

• 39:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that Rob Gargiulo? What is going on? Is he in a pants on?

• 39:05Speaker 03

  Are you in a tangle there?

• 39:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, is that really him? Yes, sir. And then what does his wife look like? Ex-wife look like? Can we get a little bit of a cinema also paid for psychedelic treatment for a male? Who has struggled with post- okay. Anyways, crazy story that just came out. Little weird story, but it's politics, you know? Stuff like this happens. What do you think about the story, Vinny? What do you have with this?

• 39:29Speaker 03

  I mean.

• 39:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Does it make you want to DM Kristin Sinema? You're like, you know what? She's, she's. She sounds interesting. Maybe, hey.

• 39:37Speaker 03

  Or she's bisexual. She's bisexual and Matthew began to communicate more frequently to point Heather noticed him single messaging and then send it including when you, uh, listen. I mean, again, this is politics and I know I brought up House of Cards recently. I want everybody out there. I mean, I'm being dead, I know you've seen it, right, Pat? You've seen the House of Cards?

• 39:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 39:56Speaker 03

  If you, if you want to, and I'm being dead serious. You want to find out what Washington is like? Politics, you know, sexual relations, gay, oh, go do me a favor. Kevin Spacey did a freaking phenomenal job and they freaking pulled back the curtain on what Washington and these people are like. I'm not surprised and using campaign financing.

• 40:17Tom Ellsworth?

  This is shocking, you know? Here you have Senator Sin with me. I mean, cinema.

• 40:21Speaker 03

  Cinema, Tom.

• 40:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Cinema, cinema, not cinema. You know, drug, sex, rock and roll.

• 40:26Patrick Bet-David?

  That joke didn't land, Tom. I just want you to know. I don't want someone to make sure.

• 40:29Speaker 03

  I've been encouraging you to continue your comedy career.

• 40:33Tom Ellsworth?

  So I used to think drug, sex, rock and roll was like the soundtrack to the 60s. Now it's branches of government.

• 40:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Anne, do you care about the story?

• 40:43Speaker 04

  Um, no, it's interesting. I guess she wasn't, she wasn't a lesbian that long if she's going after this guy.

• 40:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta respect that a little bit.

• 40:50Speaker 04

  I know, yeah, totally. We got one back.

• 40:52Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll have one.

• 40:54Speaker 04

  That's always, I love this home wrecker law. I think every state should consider having one. We, we, I will say we don't know the truth because it's a legal filing, but to bring it under home wrecking and not just have, have it come up generally in a, in divorce papers. In general, you can't believe divorce papers, but huh, home wrecker law.

• 41:13Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about home wrecking law?

• 41:15Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know about home wrecking law, but I'll tell you what I think about Chris and cinema. Just when I thought politicians have reached an all time low. Here's Chris and cinema and brings it right back. Just my new favorite politician. And I'll tell you why. As someone that's born and raised in the nightlife scene of Miami, I've never met anybody that has ever done molly, MDMA, marijuana, no drugs. Miami's a very clean thing. So I will give her credit about something. When Joe Biden was trying to pass all these ridiculous laws. There were two people that stood in his way, these independents. One was my favorite politician, Joe Manchin. And then she was the second one. So Joe Manchin got a lot of credit for basically stopping this woke agenda.

• 42:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you care about this?

• 42:01Adam Sosnick?

  I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why I don't care about it. It's the same thing with John Fetterman. As long as you're actually a policy person. I don't care if you have a brain injury, if you're wearing a hoodie everywhere you go. Do what's right for America. If she wants to do some bisexual MDMA, I don't care. As long as you're a person that's doing good policies. So what is the exact?

• 42:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Like you're wrecking, you know, you're ruining someone's marriage.

• 42:26Adam Sosnick?

  No. It's a free country.

• 42:29Speaker 04

  I love it.

• 42:30Speaker 03

  It'll slow people like, it'll be a law like?

• 42:32Adam Sosnick?

  What is the exact law?

• 42:33Speaker 03

  You're gonna go ruin, so let's.

• 42:35Speaker 04

  It's a longstanding tort. It's been in existence through common law forever. It used to be called alienation of affection. And I think it's fantastic.

• 42:44Adam Sosnick?

  Alienation of affection act, okay?

• 42:45Speaker 03

  Mother, this is a home wrecker law officially called alienation of affection allows a spouse to sue a third party for interfering with and causing the breakdown of their marriage seeking money. Adam, because you're probably going to get in trouble for this. Damaging for emotional harm, but it's only recognized in the US in a handful of states. But and Pat, just to go back to. North Carolina, Mississippi and Utah.

• 43:05Adam Sosnick?

  MDMA, because you asked about this. This is absolute BS.

• 43:07Speaker 03

  MDMA, obviously.

• 43:08Adam Sosnick?

  Can I tell you why it's absolute BS? I'll be quick. So you're gonna put the guilt and blame on the third party who has no affiliation? What about the husband? What about the wife that cheats?

• 43:19Speaker 03

  But they know that you're married.

• 43:20Adam Sosnick?

  That's the problem.

• 43:21Speaker 03

  But if they know that you're married and they're coming in.

• 43:22Adam Sosnick?

  You got him and the divorce. Do you know how many women are attracted to men with wedding rings?

• 43:26Speaker 03

  She's slipping MDMA in his drink. By the way, did you know?

• 43:29Adam Sosnick?

  She's drugging him, that's illegal.

• 43:31Speaker 03

  Well, in the 1970s.

• 43:32Adam Sosnick?

  But is he doing it willingly?

• 43:33Speaker 03

  Early 1980s, therapists quietly used MDMA in guided sessions and the goal was to help couples lower fear, feel empathy, talk honesty, and just grab glow sticks and just go for it.

• 43:44Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, newsflash, drugs make you a little bit looser.

• 43:46Speaker 03

  Well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, but guess what? Hey, if you're a girl or a guy and you're out there trying to sleep with married people and they have kids and they have a family, you're gonna ruin their lives? I like the law going, hey, you know what?

• 43:57Adam Sosnick?

  Do you know how many young women should be in jail right now then?

• 44:00Speaker 03

  Well, guess what? Adam, it's a sin.

• 44:02Adam Sosnick?

  This will discourage them.

• 44:03Speaker 03

  You're gonna ruin the freaking, yeah.

• 44:04Adam Sosnick?

  There's no discouraging young drunk women from making bad decisions.

• 44:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, if you get sued, there will be.

• 44:10Adam Sosnick?

  They don't care.

• 44:11Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 44:11Adam Sosnick?

  So, I don't know, I think this...

• 44:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, don't take that market away from Adam.

• 44:15Adam Sosnick?

  I apologize. Listen, I'm a one-woman man these days.

• 44:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, go ahead, Tom.

• 44:20Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, James, there was a very, you know, movie...

• 44:24Adam Sosnick?

  Insert inappropriate joke, go ahead.

• 44:25Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 44:26Adam Sosnick?

  Go ahead, Tom. Thank you for catching yourself.

• 44:30Patrick Bet-David?

  He's gotta make up for the last joke.

• 44:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Roger, James Bond has got all of the relationship premises that you'd ever wanna see. But the one that I love is Daniel Craig, and she says, "Am I not your type?"

• 44:47Tom Ellsworth?

  And, um, Ed...

• 44:49Adam Sosnick?

  This joke is killing Tom, go ahead.

• 44:51Tom Ellsworth?

  And he looks, and she says, "Am I not your type?" Like, says, "Forceful? No. Single."

• 44:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Because, because, because he was...

• 45:02Adam Sosnick?

  Yo, he did it!

• 45:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Because he was only dating...

• 45:03Adam Sosnick?

  We love you, Tom.

• 45:04Speaker 03

  We love you.

• 45:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Because he was messing with the married girl of the bad guy.

• 45:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I think that's 0 for 2, right?

• 45:10Adam Sosnick?

  Hey, give him another chance, go over 3.

• 45:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep it going, you'll get one here.

• 45:14Adam Sosnick?

  Guys, put a "we love you" in the chat. For Tom, if you wanna hear more of his dad jokes.

• 45:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, forget the home wrecker law, which fine, for the states that wanna apply it, makes sense, have that in place. But for all the other stuff with her, you know, it's politics, it's a nasty world.

• 45:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, I don't even think she's in the top 50 of the craziest stories that happens in politics. You remember that one clip where the one guy was, what was he at, Robbie? They were gay politicians, they were in there doing some stuff and a picture came out where the guy was sitting on a- Bent over in the- Bent over- In the Senate halls- This doesn't make it in the top 50, like some- I bet there's other guys that are saying-

• 45:58Speaker 04

  That was a decade ago, this is recent.

• 46:00Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, no, they had, um-

• 46:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know why this is-

• 46:02Adam Sosnick?

  They had sex in a congressional hearing room.

• 46:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that was 40-

• 46:06Speaker 04

  Oh, that was staff.

• 46:07Adam Sosnick?

  This, this to me-

• 46:08Patrick Bet-David?

  We're talking about the senator. A little bit in the psych ward.

• 46:12Adam Sosnick?

  This to me is the equivalent of term limits. So you're gonna have congressmen and women say, "Yeah, yeah, let's, let's pass laws to make sure I can't cheat, or I have to leave office, no chance."

• 46:25Patrick Bet-David?

  In this case, the psych ward is pronounced senate. Let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story, and we gotta get to Iran as well. So let's do a couple other stories-

• 46:34Adam Sosnick?

  Anne's dying, she's itching for some Iran stories.

• 46:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm just gonna wait for that one because- That one we're gonna get to here in a minute, but let's get into, um, matter of fact, let's just get into Iran.

• 46:42Adam Sosnick?

  Let's do it.

• 46:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's get into Iran, okay. So a lot's been happening, a lot's been happening, but let's go to the Bret Baer interview, Rob, if you can. Bret Baer is interviewing Iran's foreign minister, and they have multiple heated moments, Rob, I think we got three, four, five clips to show, but let's start off with the one where they, right off the bat, Bret Baer calls him out, and he gets a little bit uncomfortable, and we'll watch the other ones. Uh, and again, these are claims, the numbers you hear confirmed is 2,000 plus. The numbers you hear not confirmed, but a lot of publications are reporting right now, is 12,500. A lot of people in the streets are saying the number's 20, 30, 40,000, but let's just go with that. Here's Bret Baer questioning the foreign minister of Iran, go ahead, Rob.

• 47:30Speaker 16

  And you're suggesting that it's Israel and Mossad acting like Iranian forces, shooting the Iranian people to make casualties to spur on the action of President Trump. I'm just saying, there's a lot of people that don't believe that, Mr. Foreign Minister. No, Mossad, Mossad has already confessed that. They may be on the ground, sir, but as far as them killing hundreds and hundreds of people to make it look like you did, it does not appear in the video that we get out.

• 47:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's one of them, right? Now, go to the next one, Rob. And by the way, let's stay on that since he's talking about Israel and Mossad. Netanyahu's plane leaves Israel's airspace mysteriously on January 14th, which is two days ago. Now, this could be, you know, the key word here is mysteriously, can be used in anything, right? It can be used, Adam mysteriously left on time this morning from Miami to come to the podcast. Mysteriously. Why did he mysteriously leave 15 minutes earlier, right? There could be a lot of different things. You forgot to turn the clocks. Netanyahu's plane leaves, Rob, do you have that clip of Netanyahu's plane leaving early?

• 48:34Patrick Bet-David?

  From, and what they were comparing you to is the last two times he left this way, there was an attack. One of them was on the nuclear airside, nuclear sites that they had. Yeah, this is him, apparently leaving mysteriously. Where is he going to? So they reported on this, this was all over the place. So I'm gonna come back to this story since we're on Israel, and then I'm gonna go back to the Foreign Minister. Netanyahu halts Trump from bombing Iran as Israel delivers vital intelligence on regime crackdown. And Tom, I want to come to you with this one here. Benjamin Netanyahu asked Donald Trump to not launch military strikes against Ayatollah's Islamic regime over fears Iran would retaliate against Israel.

• 49:19Patrick Bet-David?

  The Israel Prime Minister spoke to Trump on Wednesday shortly before the president told reporters that he had received information from very important sources on the other side that Iran had stopped executing anti-regime protesters. Netanyahu had previously spoken to J.D. Vance on Tuesday, the same day that White House officials met to discuss military options against Iran. According to the New York Times, other Gulf nations, including Qatar, Saudi, Oman, and Egypt, have also implored the White House not to attack Iran over fears it could... Lead to regional conflict. Tom, thoughts on this story?

• 49:51Tom Ellsworth?

  So there's two thoughts here that are flowing. One is that Netanyahu is in both sides of the president's ears. One side, he's in there, you know, you have to do this with Iran. Iran's the manipulator. This is what's going on. And he's sort of a flattering bird on one shoulder, trying to get Trump to move one way. And on the other way, as a genuinely Israeli intelligence was saying, hey, we're not fully ready for what they might do. And they're so unstable, they might do more than a more rational, less rebellious Iran would do right now, because their backs are up against the wall and they're cornered in these other areas. Be careful. And then you have the other Arab states saying, hang on, this could escalate.

• 50:36Tom Ellsworth?

  So I'm more with the second group that said that with a destabilized Iran, they might react more irrationally, more harshly than they would normally in a more stable, if you can use stable and Iran in the same sentence, a political zone, if you will. And that everyone's out there, Pat, saying Iran's destabilized. You don't know what kind of crazy reaction they might have here. Maybe we don't want to do this right now. And on the other hand, you got people saying, oh, there you go again. Netanyahu's right in Trump's ear and he's kind of guiding him more than we all think. But I think it's the latter.

• 51:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam?

• 51:15Speaker 07

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• 52:16Adam Sosnick?

  So, let me just get this straight. Bret Baer, professional journalist, is pressing the Foreign Secretary, what is his exact title? Abbasaragchi. Okay. Foreign Minister. Foreign Minister, and he's basically saying, "Hey, word on the street is you're murdering your own people." And he goes, "Dot, dot, dot, well, it's Israel, right?" And Bret Baer goes, "Yeah, I don't think so." Is that the basic premise of that conversation, if you don't mind? Okay, got it. Well, let's go with some facts here. Does Israel take out Iranian nuclear scientists? You betcha they do. Does Israel take out leaders and generals of Hamas and Hezbollah?

• 52:58Adam Sosnick?

  Beep, beep, now maybe your belt doesn't work and anything about that? You bet they do. What Israel and Assad does not do is kill innocent people. "Hey, Iranian regime, that's your job, buddy." That's your job, because the reality is, you know, they say that sunlight is the best disinfectant. Do you remember when your good friend Reza Pahlavi told everybody a week ago? "8:00 PM, everybody get out there and protest, and do it at 8:00 PM." Do you remember this? Do you know what happened by 8:30 PM? They cut the internet and started murdering thousands of people. And there's videos, this is the number one story in the Wall Street Journal. "A massacre happened the 24 hours that bloodied Iran."

• 53:44Adam Sosnick?

  And by the way, this Wall Street Journal, pretty credible newspaper, they don't mention Israel and Assad once. They're looking at you, Ayatollah Khomeini, for killing your own people. Now, if you want to scroll down just a little bit, Rob, you can show actual videos. There's a video of Iranian police murdering their own people. So, you know, they say, like, "Don't believe your lying eyes." Well, what is this? So, to me, it's absolute buffoonery for anyone that believes something like this. Last point. Bret Baer, I know we had a great moment with him, I don't know if you negotiated his new contract, he deserves it. That's a real journalist.

• 54:28Adam Sosnick?

  sidetrack, hey Tucker Carlson, maybe that's what you should do when you have the president of Iran on, not give him sort of a fluffy interview, that's how you hold these people's feet to the fire and represent the people of Iran, not your own Qatari interests. That's my opinion.

• 54:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Anne, where are you at on this? This specific story? Because we got a few more Iran stories going on.

• 54:48Speaker 04

  Right, well, first, I'll just say briefly why I don't care about this story, which is, I'm sorry, I just don't care about the rest of the world right now. We're sort of in the habit of this since 9/11, but what happens in Iran really doesn't affect this country. I love Venezuela, I wrote about it two weeks ago. This is our hemisphere. It does, it does give us an opportunity to talk about the worst, you know, the masterful handling of Iran by Jimmy Carter, and that's always good to remind people of, that he created this mess, but it just, it, it doesn't matter to us, we need to get back to our country. Our country is in a lot of trouble, you know, why not Gambia? Why not Rwanda? I don't want to hear about other countries. Anyway, that's why.

• 55:30Patrick Bet-David?

  But, by the way, you know, you know what's crazy? I fully understand that argument from an American. I fully get it. And, and, and for me, a part of it is, who should care more about, uh, who should care more about Iran and their regime than Israel? Us or Israel? Israel.

• 55:50Adam Sosnick?

  Israel.

• 55:51Patrick Bet-David?

  They're neighbors. Regional neighbor. Remember, Monroe, Donbro is what? This is our hemisphere. Okay, this is our job, this is what we're gonna be taking care of, this affects us, this is our neighborhood, this is what I'm gonna be taking care of. I'm fully with that. Having said that, on the opposite side, on, on, Anne, I want to get your thoughts on this as well, is for the, for the Iranians around the world, who, they live in Europe, they live in Spain, they live in Paris.

• 56:19Speaker 04

  They live in LA.

• 56:20Patrick Bet-David?

  They live in Beverly Hills, yeah, they live in Chicago, they live in New York, they're, they're here, you know, they're, they're living in Miami. These guys want to see this regime fall because they see what happened to their families. In the last 47 years, in their opinion, nothing's happened because no US president has been wanting to get involved and do anything to them and intervene. And the last time they didn't intervene was with Jimmy Carter and the Shah. And the Shah failed, Khomeini came in, since then it's been chaotic. So, and then you can go back and look at the history, how back in the days, Mossadegh, he wins, he's there for two years and four months, he nationalizes the oil, and then UK is like, wait a minute, you're not doing that, British Petroleum, OPEC, we're there, we're running all this stuff, you guys don't have the infrastructure to run it, we came

• 57:05Patrick Bet-David?

  and built the whole thing in Abadan and we're doing this? No. So then they got rid of him, they brought the Shah in, and the Shah stays there for 37 years, and the market opens up for everybody, and the Middle East is at peace. So, there was, the argument comes from that side, that it created a lot of noise. And so this last week, when you're talking about the, Reza Pahlavi asking the Iranians to go on the streets, this is an interview that he got criticized for heavily, because in this interview, Nora, I don't know what her last name is, is it Nora O'Donnell? Nora O'Donnell? Nora O'Donnell from, is this CBS? CBS. She's an incredible journalist. She has a very good pointed question, Rob, if you want to play this clip, go for it.

• 57:41Speaker 17

  And as you are urging people to protest and go to the streets, the death toll is rising in Iran. This violent crackdown continues, just as it has in past attempted revolutions. I mean, is it responsible to be sending citizens in Iran to their deaths? Do you bear some responsibility?

• 58:03Speaker 18

  As I said, as I said, as I said, this is a war, and war has casualties. In fact, in order to preserve and protect and minimize the death toll, minimize innocent victims yet again, be killed by this regime, action is needed. The regime is going to try and brutalize its citizenry, as it has always done, but we are in a fight for liberation. I didn't ask the people to come to the streets to fight for, against the regime, because I wanted so. They asked me to step in to help them, and to be their voice on the outside world, to do everything that we can.

• 58:42Speaker 18

  So we make this uprising successful this time, and I think we have some serious leaders that understand what is necessary, that understand the ask of the Iranian people, and are responding to that. I think President Trump is responding to the call that the Iranian people have. The Iranian people have heard his words, they are naming streets after him in Iran.

• 59:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there.

• 59:08Speaker 18

  There's a difference.

• 59:09Patrick Bet-David?

  So, when President Trump... And his team watches this. What do you think they say? Do they say, "This is the guy we can get behind and help Iran be free again"? Or do you think they say, "I don't know if he has it or not. I don't know"? Do they look at this and say, "This shows strong leadership"? Do they look at this and say, "This guy's gonna be able to go and, you know, win the people over and do that"? I don't know. Here's what Trump did say. The president said, "Trump praises Iran exile royal as very nice, but doesn't go as far as fully supporting regime change bit." Okay, Rob, is this the Hugh Hewitt clip? We've seen this one already, so I know this one here on him saying this.

• 59:53Patrick Bet-David?

  If you want to play this one more time, you can go ahead and play the clip, because it's only 30 seconds.

• 59:57Speaker 19

  Would you meet with Crown Prince Pahlavi, who is the heir to the constitutional monarchy? He doesn't want to rule. He would be a, you know, symbolic ruler like King Charles.

• 1:00:10Speaker 20

  Well, I've watched him, and he seems like a nice person, but I'm not sure that it would be appropriate at this point to do that as president. I think that we should let everybody go out there and we see who emerges. I'm not sure necessarily that I...

• 1:00:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's Hugh Hewitt. Now, this is an interview with Reuters on Wednesday, that this is a different interview. In an Oval Office interview with Reuters, he said that while Rais Al-Pahlavi seems like a nice guy, Trump wasn't sure the Iranian population would accept the Crown Prince as the country's leader. The conversation happened moments after Trump appeared to pump the brakes on an American military intervention, something the president has been threatening for weeks, as the Islamic regime has brutally cracked down on widespread protests. "He seems very nice, but I don't know how he'd play within his own country," the president said of Pahlavi, "and we really aren't up to that point yet. I don't know whether or not his country would accept his leadership, and certainly if they would, that would be fine with me." Trump said it was possible that the government of Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei could fall

• 1:01:12Patrick Bet-David?

  amid the demonstrations. Though added, in truth, anti-regime can fall. Whether or not it falls or not, it...

• 1:01:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Whether or not it falls or not, it's going to be an interesting period of time. Trump added, Palavi was born in Tehran, the son of the US back, Shah Mohamad Reza Shah Palavi, who Iranians overthrew. The 65-year-old Palavi, who lives in DC suburbs, has played a very vocal role in the protests from abroad. But on the ground, there appears to be a little organized support for the country to be, to again be ruled by the monarchy. So, I mean, that's what...

• 1:01:46Speaker 03

  He, he, just, just from me, watching him speak, and with all due respect, and again, he's not the guy. These people, where my mom and dad and my grandmother, grandparents are from, where your whole family's from, they don't need a Zoom call leader, okay? They need somebody that's going to be there with them on the ground, okay? Reza Palavi lives in Washington DC, he's been there for 47 years, and this isn't a knock on him. He has a life, he has kids, they're in school, they have jobs, or whatever they're doing, this is a whole different situation. And by the way, just really fast on the Israel thing, we all know the arguments, the debates we've gotten into about me and Israel and criticizing all this stuff, put that to the side.

• 1:02:29Speaker 03

  This is an organic revolution. Enough of the "Israel put people in the..." Just shut up with that noise, okay? Their, their leaders tweeting stuff that's saying that we will kill the president, him getting shot in the head, we won't miss, okay? They're murdering protesters. You know, I saw, Pat, and I'm not gonna show it, I didn't want to send it to Rob. The IRGC are going into hospitals, looking for people that were protesting that are injured, and they're shooting them in the head. I saw that. And I saw the bodies in the body bags with the catheters, because they were in that room, okay? And I'm tired, and, and, and, and makes a very, very fair point. Who, why do we care? We have enough problems going on, we have enough stuff over there. The only reason I say we have to care, and, is because if we let them put somebody else in

• 1:03:14Speaker 03

  that's worse than this guy, or another guy that's Islamist or whatever, it's a problem that's gonna get worse, and get worse, and get worse. And I'm, I'm not trying to say we have to be the police of the world, but these people are begging for help. And if you don't mind, Pat, this got me emotional, I'm probably not even be able to go through it. I wanna play a phone call that was recorded of, I think, an American Iranian girl from here. She, her mother finally calls her and gets a hold of her. She can't even speak freely because of the, the, the, the regime is surveilling them. This is, just tell me this doesn't hurt you. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:03:46Speaker 21

  Momma!

• 1:03:48Speaker 03

  Watch this.

• 1:03:51Speaker 03

  They're shooting people with machine guns. Don't cry, we're okay. I called you fifteen times. We're okay. Can you hear me?

• 1:04:03Speaker 03

  Don't cry.

• 1:04:05Speaker 03

  They killed 12,000 people. They massacred all of...

• 1:04:13Speaker 03

  We ran away. Can't talk on the phone, the phones are controlled.

• 1:04:20Speaker 03

  I'm gonna say something, tell me something.

• 1:04:24Speaker 03

  It's a very bad situation. And she's crying, stop, she's... And this goes on. They've killed so many, she's in her 70s, she goes, "She's weak, she can't do anything." So for people to sit there and try to blame everybody else, the people have done it organically, God bless them, I hope for them, this is where we have to help. We have to help, and with all due respect, Reza, nice guy, you're the first one that called him a nice, sweet guy, Trump, always talks off the... He doesn't BS, he doesn't sugarcoat, the moment he was asked, he goes, "Yeah, no, he's not the guy." He knows he's not the guy, Pat, he knows.

• 1:04:57Speaker 04

  You know, your discussion of Mossadegh and Shah, the Shah remind me of why I think we should not be getting involved, and yes, it would be great if the people overthrew and, you know, fixed it themselves, I don't think they will. I think most of the world is not fit for democracy. Mossadegh was a ridiculous clown, he had to be taken out, he was taken out by the CIA, and the CIA, and the United States supported the Shah. Everything was great then, as long as we're installing puppets around the world, things are gonna go great, you don't want to let them vote. And especially, you don't want to let them vote now. I mean, I don't think I really want to lose the Iranians, or Persians, as we call them in Beverly Hills, they're great, they're totally right-wing, the most civilized, educated

• 1:05:41Speaker 04

  Iranians have left. And it's the same thing with Venezuela, it's the same thing with Cuba. If we're gonna be installing puppet governments and holding them up, and we have to protect them, let's start with our hemisphere and see how it goes. And then maybe we can get back, and also, let's also remember that this is all Jimmy Carter's fault.

• 1:06:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you joking or are you being serious?

• 1:06:04Speaker 04

  It is all Jimmy Carter's fault.

• 1:06:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree. I fully agree with you there.

• 1:06:08Speaker 04

  Totally. And, and what was his name? Richard Falk at Princeton, who promised everyone, "Don't worry, the people will vote for, for Khomeini. It will be wonderful. The people's revolution." Yeah, there's your Princeton professor for you.

• 1:06:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I've seen that as well.

• 1:06:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, we've seen it in our government. When a nice guy that should be an ambassador or should be in a think tank becomes president, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, you have problems because you need leaders in times of crisis. And this guy happens to be the son of the prior leader. That doesn't make him, that gives him proximity. That doesn't give him the presence, the power, the personality and everything he needs to lead. And I think he appears to be a very nice man. He appears to be, you know, ambassadorial. He's got certain presence. But is he ready to go into this beehive and to do what's necessary to lead it through it? I don't think so. And we can make assessments like that because we saw it happen in our government.

• 1:07:09Tom Ellsworth?

  I was of age when Jimmy Carter, you know, basically on these human rights campaigns in the name of human rights, ignored warning signs of destabilization in governments in the name of human rights. And this mess started. We've seen it. And this is not what the world needs. The world needs strength and clarity in leadership that is probably needs to be protected by the US government to get the job done, what they need to do. Adam?

• 1:07:37Adam Sosnick?

  Sir, I don't care one way or another about Reza Pahlavi. I'm not on his team or not on his team. But I am on the side of the Iranian people, no doubt. So when he says, "This is a war. We have to do..." This is not a war, homeboy. This is one side with guns and the other side with cell phones at best.

• 1:07:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Massacre, it's called.

• 1:07:59Adam Sosnick?

  So that's not a war. That's number one. Number two, as much as I love our friend Ann Coulter, I do care about the other side of the world. And I'll tell you why. I think this is as America first as it gets, supporting the people of Iran, because of China. I understand the Monroe Doctrine and the Donrho Doctrine. But if Venezuela falls, which is looking very likely, obviously, and if Iran falls... That helps America in monumental ways and destroys China. Cause where do they get their oil? Venezuela and Iran. So these are moves that on the surface, I get it, listen. No more foreign wars. We want to be some sort of isolationist, maybe be a little more pragmatic.

• 1:08:42Adam Sosnick?

  But if these moves help bring down China, that would only help America. Last point is this, there's this whole thing of, you know, everyone, Dave Smith, the famous, famous comedian, hilarious. Just, you know, worldwide comedian said Iran is not a threat. Iran is not a threat. Do you remember that tweet, Rob? Do you have that? Well, here's some evidence as to why, I sent it to you in a text of why Iran is actually a threat. And we do need to pay attention to the country that has coined the phrase death to America. Do you have that tweet, Rob? That I sent it to you? So they tried to kill Trump. They tried to kill Secretary Pompeo. They tried to kill, um, John Bolton. Not the worst thing, not condoning that.

• 1:09:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody's texting that Twitter is down, just so you know.

• 1:09:28Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, got you.

• 1:09:28Patrick Bet-David?

  That's why he canceled that. Yeah, right now Twitter is down.

• 1:09:30Adam Sosnick?

  There's evidence. And what did they just say about Trump? Next time we won't miss. They'll miss. Did he not say that?

• 1:09:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:38Adam Sosnick?

  But the point is they're threatening our president. And excuse me, we're, we're one earlobe away from Kamala Harris or Weekend at Biden's being president. So these geopolitical conversations do have ramifications. And when someone who presents himself as the smartest person in the room says something like this, you tend to, maybe this guy's got some credibility. And then what happens is our old friend, Dave Smith, runs into someone infinitely smarter than him named Coleman Hughes. And all of a sudden, Dave's back to being a struggling comedian, not so much a pundit.

• 1:10:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So by the way, if you want to go back to, uh, is it showing Twitter's down, Rob?

• 1:10:15Speaker 22

  Yes.

• 1:10:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Reports are showing that Twitter's on. Can you show that again, the report you had up?

• 1:10:19Speaker 22

  Yes, hang on one second.

• 1:10:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Which one is that?

• 1:10:20Speaker 22

  This is horrifying.

• 1:10:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Down detector and it just spiked that. Right there it is. So it is down.

• 1:10:24Adam Sosnick?

  Whoa.

• 1:10:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Reports are coming in, but it's saying it's not fully down. The services appear to be up and running, but as of right now, it's still down. Anyways, go, go back to the Kalshi part. Go back to the Kalshi part, Rob, on, you just had it. Ali Khamenei out as supreme leader. A week ago, 75%. Today, down to pretty much, you know, 25, you know, depending on by when, September 1st, July 1st, April 1st.

• 1:10:51Patrick Bet-David?

  2026 down, then if you go to Mohammad Azhar Palavi because you know thi- this had to be up. Will the United States recognize Reza Palavi as a leader of Iran? A week ago, 90%.

• 1:11:03Adam Sosnick?

  90% yes?

• 1:11:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:11:05Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:11:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Today, 28%.

• 1:11:08Adam Sosnick?

  Stop it.

• 1:11:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:11:09Adam Sosnick?

  Sir, may I understand this?

• 1:11:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:11Adam Sosnick?

  A week ago was 90% chance?

• 1:11:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm showing you what Kalshi says, 97.6% chance was January 8th.

• 1:11:19Adam Sosnick?

  Today is the 15th?

• 1:11:21Patrick Bet-David?

  16.

• 1:11:22Adam Sosnick?

  So one week ago?

• 1:11:23Patrick Bet-David?

  One week ago, he went from 98% to 28%.

• 1:11:27Adam Sosnick?

  So he's the Pierre Poliev of Iran, Canada?

• 1:11:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Pierre Poliev of Iran.

• 1:11:32Adam Sosnick?

  Why?

• 1:11:32Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, the last three days, Adam, he spent time with our leaders in Washington.

• 1:11:38Adam Sosnick?

  So can I ask you a very?

• 1:11:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you hear what Tom just said?

• 1:11:40Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, 100%.

• 1:11:41Patrick Bet-David?

  What does Tom, what did Tom just say?

• 1:11:42Adam Sosnick?

  He said that they spent time with our leaders in Washington.

• 1:11:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And what does that mean though?

• 1:11:45Adam Sosnick?

  The meaning is the more and more that people have been around him, they recognize he ain't that dude.

• 1:11:49Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what Tom is trying to show.

• 1:11:50Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, Tom Kornacki.

• 1:11:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Adam.

• 1:11:52Adam Sosnick?

  Why do you think that is, Pat? Sincerely, the more you spend time around him.

• 1:11:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you a question.

• 1:11:57Adam Sosnick?

  It fell before that.

• 1:11:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, let me, let me ask you a question though. Here's, here's the question, let's just say, do you think for Iran to go through their revolution? A country that any day, anybody complains about the Second Amendment. If Iran had Second Amendment, none of this stuff is happening right now, by the way. If Iran had Second Amendment, if the Iranian people could defend themselves, you think the cops going out there with a shotgun, shooting people for? No, like you realize in America, if something like that, you know who'd be the first one coming out? Mongols, Hells Angels, biker gangs, they're gonna come out, so what are you doing?

• 1:12:34Adam Sosnick?

  Vinny O'Shaughnessy.

• 1:12:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You remember that one time, I think, I think the, the George Floyd, i- i- if I'm not mistaken, riots was going on and they decided to go to Huntington Beach, if I'm not mistaken, in LA.

• 1:12:45Adam Sosnick?

  That is correct.

• 1:12:45Patrick Bet-David?

  The biker gangs rolled up and said, come on, come through us. And they're like, change your plans, we're leaving this place, we're gonna go to different places. Second Amendment in America. Phenomenal, phenomenal. Every single day you should be thankful. The fact that we have that in America was this it Rob when they were trying to do it? Yep. Yeah, protests when all of a sudden like, no, you're not going to come through here. Forget about the cops, the biker folks showed up and like, yeah, we'll skip today's deal of doing anything with these guys. So, but let me, let me go back to this. To have a revolution happen. In a country like Iran. Against a regime like IRGC. Islamic Revolutionary Guard. In a, in a society where it's like the supreme leader, the phrase they use. Their supreme leader, their supreme.

• 1:13:30Patrick Bet-David?

  American journalists say their supreme leader, their supreme leader, what's his name is Khamenei. It's not, no, your supreme leader is somebody else. That's their supreme leader, right? Khamenei. What do you think you're going to need to do if you're in America as an outsider? Actually, say you are part of Trump's advisors. And somebody brings a guy in. Who's sitting right in front of us right now interviewing to be the leader of Iran to go through the transition. What five questions do you have for him if you want to support him?

• 1:14:01Adam Sosnick?

  Are you moving to Iran?

• 1:14:04Speaker 03

  Are you willing to move to Iran?

• 1:14:05Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's just say that's one and he says, of course, but he's been here for 48 years.

• 1:14:09Adam Sosnick?

  Are you willing to put your life on the line and die for this cause?

• 1:14:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that really the real question?

• 1:14:12Speaker 04

  What percentage of people support you?

• 1:14:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Say that again?

• 1:14:15Speaker 04

  What percentage of people support you?

• 1:14:17Patrick Bet-David?

  What percentage, he says to you?

• 1:14:19Speaker 04

  In the population, not of Beverly Hills.

• 1:14:21Patrick Bet-David?

  He says to you 80% in Iran.

• 1:14:25Adam Sosnick?

  I don't believe it.

• 1:14:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so you don't believe it. What's your next question?

• 1:14:28Adam Sosnick?

  Do you think Iran wants a monarchy or a democracy?

• 1:14:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's let the people decide because that's the answer he's given to everybody. That's not our business. That's the people's business. That's what he's saying.

• 1:14:39Speaker 03

  Like if I was them, I'd want leverage and be like, hey, listen, you're going to listen to what we say.

• 1:14:43Patrick Bet-David?

  But what other questions do you have? Like what is the most important question? That you have. What makes you a great leader? Okay, so, so let me, let me say before he walked in, we're sitting together here, and here's what we're saying. We made a decision, hey, guys, if we like this guy, at what level do we want to intervene? Okay? You're J.D. Vance, you say, listen, no more than what we did with Venezuela. I don't want troops on the ground staying there, Iraq, 20 years, 3 trillion dollars. Marco Rubio says, well, it depends on what we're gonna get in return. Okay? Because let's just say Marco Rubio is a little bit more of a neocon, and he's open to the idea, and he's having a conversation. But let's just say the five of us, that's an odd number, which is good, three, two, three people gonna say, okay.

• 1:15:25Patrick Bet-David?

  We say, look, if it's a little bit of intervention, I'm open to it. But full on, I want to interview this guy to see if we can get the job done with little bit of intervention, or do we need to do everything for him? So if that's the mindset that we're going in with, what's the most important question to ask? Whose support does he need? Whose support does he need? Not just the people, who else's support do you need? The military! The military! Right. So I'm gonna ask him, say, okay, how many people from the military are flipping and supporting you? Show me. How many of them? So you know what I would do? If, if you're running, like, if you really, really, really want to do something, why

• 1:16:09Patrick Bet-David?

  don't we see how many Iranian military have turned into come support of you? And by the way, you know how it starts? By pockets. You get Tabriz. You get, you know, Abadan. You get smaller to, you don't go straight to Tehran, you start from the outside and you come fully inside, because there are a lot of people that are on the verse, but they don't want to be the first. You ever seen that one TEDx, TED Talks where the guy shows and says, here's the guy that just goes out and he starts dancing like this, and it's the most embarrassing dance? Have you seen this video? You ever seen this video, or no? Where the guy's just dancing like a horrible dancing, and everyone's looking at him. But he goes for five seconds, and they're thinking he's gonna stop. He goes for 20 seconds, and they're thinking he's gonna stop. 30 seconds later, another guy goes in, and he starts, he doesn't know what he's doing, he's just kinda going like this.

• 1:16:54Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, 20 seconds after the second guy...

• 1:16:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Couple hundred people are dancing with him. And he says the most important person is the first true believer in you that is willing to step up. Who has stood up from the military unit and said, "We're all with Reza Shapalabi"? Who? That's the question I'm gonna be asking, Tom. I'm gonna ask the question, has the military from Iran flipped to support this man? What else would you ask him? Because I think that's really how this works. You know, yesterday, two days ago, we're interviewing a guy that wants to be the general manager of David Consulting. And we have some finalists, but he's the final guy. He interviews with Tom, Paul, he interviews with Casey, a couple of other people he interviews. But then he comes with me and RJ, and then we go to dinner with him to introduce him to the BDC guys. BDC guys are interviewing with him. What do you think we're asking afterwards?

• 1:17:43Patrick Bet-David?

  What questions are we asking?

• 1:17:44Speaker 03

  How do you guys feel? Do you believe who he says he is? Is he qualified for the job? Do you think he's gonna be long-term? There's a bunch of stuff I would be asking.

• 1:17:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So to me, if this all of a sudden happened to the Iranian people who are saying Trump is Jimmy Carter 2.0. Maybe, instead of saying, "Is Trump Jimmy Carter 2.0?", Jimmy Carter's case was, there was already a stable guy in Iran named Mohammad Reza Shapalabi that had figured everything out. This was a guy that was not afraid of calling people out. He stood his ground. He gave his opinion. In this scenario, this is not the same case as Jimmy Carter 2.0, because Iran doesn't have a leader. During Carter, there was a definite leader called Mohammad Reza Shapalabi. Right now, there's not a definite leader.

• 1:18:33Patrick Bet-David?

  If there was, they would have easily said yes. So, I said this a week ago. The, God forbid you call out anything with Reza Shapalabi's community, I have no idea. By the way, for a guy who's a massive fan of Reza Shapalabi, okay, the family. For a guy that collects everything I can get my hands, if you want to give me a nice gift, give me an old coin, gold of Reza Shapalabi. Get me old magazines of Mohammad Reza Shapalabi. I have all those collections in my safe in different places that I hold on to. But God forbid you say something and criticize him even just a little bit. They shiver. Yep. How dare you? Reza Pahlavi to them is not a candidate. To them, it's their Jesus. Yes.

• 1:19:17Patrick Bet-David?

  It's their Jesus. It's their prophet Mohammed. Mohammed. God forbid you criticize and say anything about him. Now, by the way, the one thing on the opposite side. So to me, I said this last week about Mohammed Reza Pahlavi. I said, if you don't pull it off, you're done. I said this a week ago. And the community lost their shit and they came, who the hell do you think you are? All this other stuff. Week later, here's where you are. So guess what? Does it mean it's done, done? It's very close to being done. Very close to being done. Why? Because somebody couldn't close the deal. Because somebody couldn't close the deal. Guess what? Diplomacy, you know what? Well, no, it's Elon Musk's fault. It's Trump's fault. It's your fault? No. It's called be a flipping diplomat. It's called go build those relationships.

• 1:20:02Patrick Bet-David?

  It's called sit back down and realize how terrible you are. I'll build them relationships with individuals. And then go, I have to talk to those people. You know who Trump called two days ago? About the 10% credit card interest rate? She was shell shocked. Who? Elizabeth Warren. Yeah, that's right. Elizabeth Warren's being interviewed. Pick up the phone. Elizabeth Warren's being interviewed and they're saying, did Trump really call you? Yeah. Yes. How did you feel about it? I'm not gonna lie. I was very surprised that he called me and asked me, what do you think about the 10%? What is that called? That's called diplomacy. So, you know, I, I, I, I hope you guys hold him accountable because he does play a very important role.

• 1:20:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And to Reza Pahlavi's credit, he did an interview yesterday, which by the way, it's the best one he's done. Uh, uh, it's the best one he's done. I'm trying to see who it was with. I watched it. He did a phenomenal job with this interview. I liked his resolve. I liked how he handled himself in this interview. I wish I could find it. There's so many of them he's doing right now. But it was probably the best one that he did. And I'm not gonna stop challenging him. I'd like to host a, uh, podcast with bringing in different people from the Iranian side to talk to a bunch of different guys that have different opinions. And we'll be doing that here soon, but. Look, to the Iranian people breaks my heart because my only first cousin in the world, my only first cousin, and I only have one first cousin. My dad had two brothers and a sister.

• 1:21:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Between the three, they had zero kids. And they all lived past their 60s. It's not like they didn't have a chance. So, two brothers and a sister, zero kids. So I got no cousins from my dad's side. My mom's side, she only had one sibling. Him and I were very close back in the days, Robert. And he has one son. I only have one first cousin. You know where my one first cousin lives? In Iran. That's where he's at. My only first cousin, lives in Iran. So, we have family there. We have friends there. We have a lot of people there. And I really wanted to see this being able to be pulled off. But unfortunately, this is, the more and more this dies down, you know, and it gets quieter and quieter, and the momentum goes away. People, families have to go take their kids back and go to school and go back to their jobs.

• 1:22:14Patrick Bet-David?

  And they realize they had the greatest two-week run. They got so close. Does that mean Trump's not gonna do an attack like he did with Saddam Soleimani? No. Does that mean people can get killed? Remember how Israel works. Here's how Israel works. Israel is also, and Trump is also very much of a, let's make a story up. Netanyahu told them that you shouldn't attack and all this other stuff. Oh my God. Netanyahu controls Trump. Three days later, boom, seven leaders in Iran get killed.

• 1:22:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:44Patrick Bet-David?

  To just also appreciate the president's unpredictability of what he's capable of doing. But number one rule, when that man came into interview with Whitkoff, interview with Lindsey Graham, and he's leaving, what set of questions you're asking? Are these guys walking out calling Trump saying, I think he's the guy, let's roll, he's gonna get it done, you need to meet with him? That didn't happen. Why not? Because if you would have met with him, what would you have told me, Tom, if you were impressed with a candidate? Say you worked for President Trump. Say you met with Reza Pahlavi. Say you were blown away. Say your name is Whitkoff. What advice would you give me if I'm Trump?

• 1:23:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I think we can support this guy because he can pull the coalition together and he's got the support of the military. He'll need some of our intervention, some of our support. But I think he's, his arms are long enough to pull the coalition together.

• 1:23:33Patrick Bet-David?

  If you believed in him, how quickly would you say I should meet with him?

• 1:23:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Mr. President, I think we should meet with him immediately now that he's met with all of us and we've got our stuff in order. I think we need to make the plan. Does that sound logical? Yes. And it didn't happen? Nope. So why it didn't happen? By the way, I'll change the names and listen to this. You know who General Ver is? V E R. Very famous man in history. General Ver was the evil general henchman for Ferdinand Marcos. And General Ver pledged that he would support Marcos. So that's when the CIA said, okay, Marcos is our guy. Because for 20 years, General Ver supported Marcos in the Philippines. And that's what kept the peace in the Philippines. And the only reason that we selected Ferdinand Marcos, the CIA, was because he had the support of General Ver. So this has happened before in history where

• 1:24:21Tom Ellsworth?

  the US makes sure that that leader can carry the coalition. And that's exactly what we have here. Final thought.

• 1:24:30Adam Sosnick?

  I just want to thank you for your breakdown because it helped me come to this conclusion. Reza Pahlavi is the opposite of Donald Trump. Let me explain. You talk about being battle-tested. We have one woman on this panel today who predicted in 2015 Donald Trump would be the President of the United States. But she did that when it was inconvenient and he was 1% chance. But what did Trump do? Get up on that stage and debate how many people?

• 1:24:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Everybody.

• 1:24:58Adam Sosnick?

  20 different people? Boom, Jeb Bush. Boom, Marco Rubio. Boom, boom, Scott Walker. Bing, bing, bing. And he won it. Because in America, you know, we've been so focused on DEI, we still don't forget, this is still a meritocracy. And Trump showed up and said, I'm that dude. And he took out Hillary Clinton. The final point is here. Just because your father was great, doesn't mean that you're gonna be great. Is Michael Jordan's son in the NBA? No. Is Magic Johnson's son in the NBA? No, he's wearing a dress somewhere. Okay? Did Bill Clinton's wife become president? No. Is Barack Obama's wife becoming president? No. So there's, a meritocracy is what America's founded on. This monarchy, Iran, if that's what

• 1:25:43Adam Sosnick?

  you're looking for, but in America, that's not what we believe in.

• 1:25:47Patrick Bet-David?

  If you have any thoughts, I'll give it to you. If not, we'll go to the next story.

• 1:25:50Speaker 04

  Let's go to the next story. She's dying to talk more about it, Rob.

• 1:25:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Sounds good. Fair enough. All right, let's go to the next story. So this story I want to get to is cartoonist Dilbert's final message before his death to his ex-wife, by the way. Have you guys seen this? To his ex-wife. And by the way, while this happened, okay, should I show what journalist Victoria Errol says, or should I say that afterwards? Let's play the clip first, Rob. Play the clip of what the ex-wife is saying with a letter that he wrote, Rob. If you got it, pull it up. Very emotional. I had to retweet it. I got this from Danny Canal. Send it to me. Danny Canal, send it to me. Shout out to Danny. Watch this clip here. Go for it.

• 1:26:32Speaker 23

  Everyone, unfortunately, this isn't good news. Of course, he waited till just before the show started. He's not with us right anymore. I'm gonna try to get through this. He has a final message that he wanted to say, so I'm gonna try to read it. Trying to be strong. If you are reading this, things did not go well for me. I have a few things to say before I go. My body failed before my brain. I am of sound mind as I write

• 1:27:17Speaker 23

  this January 1st, 2026. If you wonder about any of my choices for my estate or anything else, please know I'm free of any coercion or inappropriate influence of any sort. I promise.

• 1:27:40Speaker 23

  Next, many of my Christian friends have asked me to find Jesus before I go. I'm not a believer, but I have to admit the risk reward calculation for doing so looks so attractive to me. So here I go.

• 1:27:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Logical guy.

• 1:27:59Speaker 23

  I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and look forward to spending an eternity with Him. The part about me not being a believer should be quite quickly resolved if I wake up in heaven. I won't need any more convincing than that. I hope I'm still qualified for entry. With your permission, I'd like to explain my life. For the first part of my life, I was focused on making myself a worthy husband and parent

• 1:28:42Speaker 23

  as I find as a way to find meaning. That worked, but marriages don't always last forever.

• 1:28:53Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. You can pause it right there. And it goes on. It's a six minute clip. If you haven't seen it, I recommend you watching it. So in the letter, he accepts Jesus Christ. His ex-wife is reading it, very sentimental. And then you get this story. Journalist Victoria had to face his backlash over Scott Adams' obitually disgraceful hit piece. Scott Adams' disgraced Dilbert creator dies at 68 years old. Okay, Vinnie, I'm gonna come to you with this story because I know you got a lot of thoughts on this.

• 1:29:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:29:25Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you react to this, Vinnie?

• 1:29:26Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, A, you know, God rest his soul. I think, you know, a couple of people saw the, I'm saying that they, when she read the letter, very emotional. If you weren't really, really paying attention, you would see, you know, this was somebody, and I knew me and you were to get into this conversation. So Adam, he's, he's, this is his last letter as he's dying, and he's saying, and I'll read it quick. Next. Many of my Christian friends have asked me to find Jesus before I go. I'm not a believer, but I have to admit the risk-reward calculation for doing so looks attractive. So here I go. I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I'm and I look forward to spending my eternity with Him. The part about me not being a believer should be quickly resolved. If I wake up in heaven, I won't need any more convincing than that. I hope I'm still qualified for entry.

• 1:30:11Speaker 03

  As funny and as cool as it seems, it's kind of making a mockery of Christianity. Because you know, when we talked about Adam, you always ask the question, Vinnie, you mean a person could be a murderer and in the last moment he says, "I'm sorry," and he goes to heaven. The same thing with the murderer that was on the cross with Jesus, but that one of them actually asked for forgiveness and was truly meant it. And God, Jesus said that you're going to be with me in paradise. This to me is like a well-last ditch effort. Well, if it's true, then let's do it. I think, I hope to God, Adam, that after this funny moment that he had, he really did have a moment where he seriously stopped and said, "Jesus," or somebody spoke to him, a pastor, a priest, and actually gave it to him. And actually, he was honest, because this right here is what you talk about, that insurance policy.

• 1:30:56Speaker 03

  "Oh, I'm gonna die." Well, all right, I believe in Jesus. That's not how it works. That's not how it works in this situation. I will, however, Patrick, there was a video that he made that hit me so hard. I sent it to Rob and even Rob. Rob, you showed this to your son? Yeah, I sent it to him. It is such a, it is such an awesome thing, guys. It's about laziness. I don't know if you, have you seen this? No. It's about laziness. And it's, he says that it's the habit of thinking about the effort instead of thinking about the outcome. I have Rob playing it at 1.5, so it's a little bit fast. But look at how, look how amazing this is. This completely changed my thinking. Go ahead, Rob.

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• 1:32:33Speaker 24

  What if, what if, laziness is a habit of thinking about the cost of things or the effort, instead of thinking about the payoff?

• 1:32:43Speaker 24

  I'm gonna say it again, get a few more heads to explode. What if laziness is...

• 1:32:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it on Twitter? Or if it is, it's gonna keep stopping.

• 1:32:55Speaker 03

  So, okay, so it says, "You can reverse laziness by simply developing a habit of thinking more about, like, for instance, the delicious food that you're gonna eat, instead of, like, the effort that it takes to do it." Like, he said, like, with kids. He goes, "Why do people have three or four kids? If people sat there and they're like, 'Oh, man, having the kid is the worst,' you always hear them saying, 'I'm gonna have more kids,' because it's, you're focusing on the in-between, instead of what you're gonna..." Is this it, Rob?

• 1:33:22Patrick Bet-David?

  The payoff?

• 1:33:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, the payoff, which is actually pretty freaking awesome. So, that's a great thing that he had. Bob, you gonna play it? I think we got the gist.

• 1:33:31Speaker 24

  I'm gonna say it again, get a few more heads to explode. What if laziness is nothing but a habit of thinking about the effort, instead of thinking about the outcome? What if you could reverse laziness by simply developing a habit of thinking more about the, let's say, the delicious food that you'd like to enjoy, instead of how long it would take you to get up and go get it? But the real question is, if you were to test this at home, and try to see if you can think more about the good outcome, and less about the work, would you get it done? Why doesn't the people have a second child? Why does a woman who goes through this awful, awful childbirth have a second child? Don't they always say the same thing? If I remembered how bad this was, I wouldn't do it again. Right? So, the not thinking about the effort is vital to actually the survival of humanity.

• 1:34:15Speaker 24

  If we focused on how hard it was to have a baby, you just wouldn't do it. Or you'd do too little of it. But if you focus on how awesome it would be to have a family, well, there you go. You're gonna go through the pain because you've already committed. Am I ambitious? Or do I simply have a thinking habit which produces dopamine? Because I'm thinking about the positive outcome. And is the dopamine the thing that gets me up and moving? And when you're observing me, you say, "How the hell do you get so much done?" And how do I do it? I think it's just this. I think it's just this. When I think of all the things I do, I think about them in terms of their benefits. Rob, you can pause it, Rob.

• 1:34:45Speaker 03

  And, pal, and I think in regard to the People Magazine girl, the fact that OJ Simpson died, okay? OJ Simpson, a murderer, died. And their headline was, "OJ Simpson Dead at 76 From Cancer, Family Announces." That's it right there. But when Scott Adams dies, because he was, you know, a Trump supporter, look what they write. "Scott Adams: Disgraced Dilbert Creator Dies at 68." A murderer gets the nice one, but a guy that liked Trump gets a disgrace. This is the day that he died. They write that. So that just goes to show you, People Magazine's-

• 1:35:19Speaker 24

  Where are you at with the story at?

• 1:35:21Speaker 04

  Well, Vinnie just made me feel very guilty because I meant to send Scott Adams,

• 1:35:29Speaker 04

  my minister, Redeemer.com. It would convince anyone, because I sort of agree with you. I hope he really believed it, but just taking Pascal's wager, that isn't gonna do it. And I know Tim Keller would have convinced him, and suddenly he was dead and I hadn't sent it yet. So I'm feeling very bad about that. This reminds me, I was just thinking about this the other day, which is why, oh my gosh, Twitter being down is so much more important to me than Iran. Twitter is so important for the truth getting out there, including on immigration, like you were talking about. And all the MSM is showing us is, "Oh, the poor illegal immigrant."

• 1:36:10Speaker 04

  Whoa, those aren't the ones you see on, those aren't the videos you see on Twitter. And it wasn't just that one. I mean, there was some horrible terrorist that, where the headline was, you know, "Honored Islamic Scholar Dies." Oh, I just sent that to Rob.

• 1:36:27Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, can I talk about that? Yes, go ahead.

• 1:36:29Speaker 04

  But you see, but those weren't the only ones. The contrast all over Twitter. So, thank God for Twitter. And I had, I interviewed Scott Adams on, on my Substack. And, and he, he was really interesting and it was a lot of fun. And, and the racist thing was unfair. It was, I think, a clumsy joke, in my opinion. But if you'll remember what it was, there was just this poll that turned out to be a BS poll saying that a majority of black people said that it's, well, it's not okay to be white. So, it was a BS poll, but he read it, he believed it. He says, therefore, black people are racist and therefore, we should stay the hell away from black people.

• 1:37:11Speaker 04

  It's one of those things where you can't, some things you just should stay away from making jokes about. So, it was a clumsy joke, but oh my gosh, his publisher canceled him, his syndicate, my former syndicate canceled him. He got canceled every place. And to be putting that in the, in the obituaries, oh come, oh here it is, there it is.

• 1:37:30Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:37:32Adam Sosnick?

  Well, yeah, that's why you always need to check the source and say, is this a credible source, a biased source? Are they far left? Are they far right? Which one is it? So, the cartoonist from Dilbert dies and he's this bad dude and this controversial guy? But the austere leader of ISIS, you know, Jihad al-Baghdadi, whatever his name was, what a guy. So, just check your source. There it is. Abu al-Bakar al-Baghdadi, the austere religious scholar. Austere. At the helm of Islamic State dies at 48. What a guy. What's this? Cartoonist from Dilbert, Mr. Adams over here. Disgraced, racist. Disgraced. So, it's just unfair. But I needed to say, died suddenly at 48.

• 1:38:17Adam Sosnick?

  The other thing I'll say is racist is the most overused term. I don't know, I'm not going to judge him right now. He does make a great point about... The kids, you know, you have one kid and you go back for two. I was hanging out with a lady last night, a friend. She has 11 kids.

• 1:38:32Speaker 03

  Damn.

• 1:38:33Adam Sosnick?

  And she's trying to convince my girl, like, "Go for it! Come on, I'm gonna do number 12 if you do number 1." I'm like, "This lady just wants a baker dozen." I don't know if she's looking for a football team. 11 kids. The last point is this, we're on the same page here. This is my concern, and he's a good guy. And I talk about bad people at the last-second Hail Mary, accepting Jesus. This, to me, was a risk-reward calculation.

• 1:38:55Speaker 03

  That's not how it works.

• 1:38:55Adam Sosnick?

  Not pure.

• 1:38:56Speaker 03

  Hundred percent.

• 1:38:57Adam Sosnick?

  From your heart?

• 1:38:57Speaker 03

  Hundred percent.

• 1:38:58Adam Sosnick?

  So I've been Jewish my whole life, and it's on my deathbed, it's like, "Jesus!"

• 1:39:02Speaker 03

  No, no. Because you know who knows your heart? Jesus, he knows. And there's no way to get to the Father, except through the Son. Okay? And just to go back really, really fast. Do you guys remember when Hassan Soleimani was killed? New York Times published an op-ed, they called him a "freedom fighter." CNN, NPR, they called him "hero to supporters and a popular figure in Iran." It's a freaking joke. It is a joke. And I didn't know that about you, that's so, that's so, I understand the feeling that you didn't message him, but just hoping that we could pray that he did have a moment where maybe the Holy Spirit was like, "Hey, you have this opportunity." And I just, I hope and I pray that he came to it right there. Because a word and a letter, that's not gonna come.

• 1:39:42Tom Ellsworth?

  And Adam, Ann made the point about Pascal's wager. You hope that none of your friends, you know, are simply making Pascal's wager, and they think it's like this little fire alarm at the last moment, that it's a genuine, and I have deep respect for Tim Keller, and I believe that anybody that would encounter, at a moment facing their own mortality, Tim's writings, I believe that they would be compelled. I think that's what you were saying. I agree with that. Tim's tremendous. You know, and I just think the dialogue has become so heated and so nasty. You know, as I've often said, once upon a time, I used to think that...

• 1:40:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Liberals think I'm evil when I just thought liberals were wrong, right? And but I think it's it's become much deeper and worse than that. I mean, it goes on both sides.

• 1:40:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think they're evil.

• 1:40:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, well, so do I. But it's become deeper than that. I mean, even even Matt Judge, when OJ died, I, as I recall, the Drudge Report took heat because the headline they carried was "Cancer Murders OJ." Was the, I believe, was the...

• 1:40:51Speaker 04

  Wait, who had that headline? That's hilarious.

• 1:40:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, if you go back, the Drudge Report took heat for it.

• 1:40:57Speaker 04

  That's funny.

• 1:40:58Tom Ellsworth?

  It was "Cancer Murders OJ."

• 1:41:00Speaker 04

  It's really funny.

• 1:41:02Adam Sosnick?

  Hank Holger's got a very interesting sense of humor.

• 1:41:07Speaker 03

  If that's not that, and you came up with it, Tom, I think it's hilarious.

• 1:41:09Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, it was the Drudge Report.

• 1:41:10Adam Sosnick?

  Cancer 1, OJ 0.

• 1:41:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let's go to the next story, Tom. Next story I want to get to is this this one story, which so curious to know what you guys gonna say about this. Oprah Winfrey makes controversial claim that overeating doesn't cause obesity. It's not her fault.

• 1:41:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, calories got in there somehow.

• 1:41:31Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not her fault. It's it's a beautiful commercial for GLP-1, is what it is. I mean, it's really, that's what it is. Rob, if you want to play the clip, go for it.

• 1:41:40Speaker 25

  All these years, I thought I was overeating. I was standing there with all the food noise, what I ate, what I should eat, how many calories was that, how long is it gonna take? I thought that that was because of me and my fault. Now I understand that if you carry the obesity gene, if that is what you have, that is what makes you overeat. You don't overeat and become obese. Obesity causes you to overeat. Obesity causes you to have all of that food noise. And what the GLP-1s have done for me, and I know a number of other people, is to quiet that noise.

• 1:42:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Matt, what do you what do you think about when you try to quiet that noise? What do you think about what she's saying here?

• 1:42:22Speaker 04

  Well, I probably shouldn't say this because I'll get a lot of people mad at me, but I so want these GLP drugs not to work. It makes me so angry that people are not just eating right and exercising. It's unfair, they're just gonna take a pill. No, of course, overeating causes obesity.

• 1:42:41Speaker 03

  Like, it drives me crazy. Well, first of all, like, what a groundbreaking, like, revelation that she had. I think it's up there with Einstein discovering relativity. Like, her saying that obesity, you don't overeat and become obese. Obesity causes you to overeat. Really. And it's funny that she's done a complete 180, mind you. She stepped down from Weight Watchers board, I believe in 2024, to promote the GLP-1 drugs. And now she's claiming that obesity is driven by genetics and largely out of control. It's convenient that makes GLP-1 her solution. And I'm curious to see who she's gonna come out and back.

• 1:43:21Speaker 03

  And by the way, horrible outfit choice. Can we address? She's wearing a men's suit. Has she crossed over, Rob? Did you see that?

• 1:43:29Speaker 04

  I do think she looks very stylish.

• 1:43:32Speaker 03

  I mean-

• 1:43:33Speaker 04

  I'm against what she's saying.

• 1:43:34Speaker 03

  What is she wearing? I don't get it.

• 1:43:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Barted from Michelle, apparently.

• 1:43:37Speaker 03

  Oprah can do whatever she wants to do.

• 1:43:38Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, she's 71.

• 1:43:40Speaker 03

  Yeah. And by the way-

• 1:43:41Speaker 04

  She's looking good for 71. Wow.

• 1:43:43Speaker 03

  But I don't know if Twitter's gonna work. RFK tweeted and put, "Dear Oprah, yes, you were overeating for years. And it wasn't some mystical obesity gene puppeteering your fork. It was your choices." There's no way he tweeted this. I swear to you, he did this. Stop selling- Is this a parody account? No, this is RFK. Right there. That's it, right there. He goes, "It was your choices. Stop selling surrender as science. Our kids deserve the truth that real changes start with personal accountability, not excuses. Make America healthy again."

• 1:44:18Speaker 04

  You know, if I could say one other thing about the GLP drugs, contrary to all of the ads for it, more than half of people go off it within six months because it causes so many digestive issues and problems.

• 1:44:33Speaker 04

  So it may not be working quite as well as.

• 1:44:35Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. All the side, all the side effects were like, bad breath, your butt is gone.

• 1:44:39Speaker 04

  Vomiting.

• 1:44:40Speaker 03

  Apparently it was something was happening positively, but and again, it's getting everybody away from putting.

• 1:44:45Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't say something like that.

• 1:44:47Speaker 03

  What?

• 1:44:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you just say it does something positively?

• 1:44:49Speaker 03

  It does something for men.

• 1:44:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Seventy-eight people just placed an order right now.

• 1:44:53Speaker 03

  What does it do for men?

• 1:44:54Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I thought I saw a report that said that Ozempic was making men swollen in the right areas.

• 1:45:00Speaker 04

  No, it's the rest of them.

• 1:45:02Adam Sosnick?

  Viagra, buddy.

• 1:45:03Speaker 03

  No, it wasn't. I'm telling you.

• 1:45:04Speaker 04

  No, the New York Times wrote about that. The rest of you slims down.

• 1:45:07Speaker 03

  Oh, that's what it is. Okay. Ozempic males are reporting surprising, but she makes a good point.

• 1:45:12Speaker 04

  That's because they can't find a way to see it again.

• 1:45:15Adam Sosnick?

  When you're 300 pounds, you go down to 180, you're gonna look a little bit.

• 1:45:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam, Adam.

• 1:45:20Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, there you are.

• 1:45:21Tom Ellsworth?

  It's Ozempic.

• 1:45:22Patrick Bet-David?

  For a while. How you been?

• 1:45:24Adam Sosnick?

  I'm with, I'm with An Ozempic.

• 1:45:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Not Olympic.

• 1:45:28Speaker 04

  Yay.

• 1:45:29Adam Sosnick?

  An and I are gonna agree for, for, for a change today because I was talking to a friend, he's gonna see this clip, he's gonna freak out.

• 1:45:37Adam Sosnick?

  And I said, he, he took Ozempic, my buddy, and he said, oh, man, I started having all these problems, my shoulder, couldn't, I couldn't like lift my hand. I said, oh, interesting. So these shortcuts are actually, there's some side effects of this. I said, what you don't earn, you don't keep. You know, and they say with like, and like, I tell this to OnlyFans girls when I, when I used to interact with them, not anymore because I'm a man of the Lord. I said, easy money is gonna come with hard lessons.

• 1:46:04Speaker 04

  Oh, good line.

• 1:46:05Adam Sosnick?

  You're gonna, you know, get rich quick. I'd rather build wealth slow. So all these people that are taking these shortcuts, you might end up with some Ozempic penis or whatever you want to call it, but you need to build the habits that get you there. It's the same thing with winning the lottery. You win a hundred million dollars. The average lottery winner is broke within three years because you don't have the framework and the habits to keep the money. So it's the same thing with Ozempic. You're 300 pounds and now you're 180. Two years from now, you're gonna be 300 pounds. By the way, you know who's gonna agree with this? Oprah, because her thing was a yo-yo with her weight. She's 250, then she's 120, then she's. Three hundred, how many, the whole story with Oprah. So to anyone out there who thinks that shortcuts is the way.

• 1:46:48Patrick Bet-David?

  It's such, it's such a lazy assessment.

• 1:46:51Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:46:52Patrick Bet-David?

  To say something like that. I, I, I went on three different AI, what do you call it? Like the chat GPTs and I, is there such a thing out obesity gene? And it says, uh, uh, the answer is not one gene. Obesity is influenced and you know, each was small folks on foundation, okay? Think of it as genes load the gun, environment pulls the trigger. You know what it made me think about?

• 1:47:16Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 1:47:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I had a guy, you, you, you hear me every once in a while, I quote this guy, I had this guy on him, Jim Clemente. Can you pull this guy? He's a retired FBI survivor. You know what his job was? He was the first person that would sit with the person that just killed someone.

• 1:47:29Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:47:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You just killed your spouse, I'm the first one that interviews you.

• 1:47:32Adam Sosnick?

  Wow, what a job.

• 1:47:32Patrick Bet-David?

  That was his job, right? And the question was asked, you know, what causes somebody to be a killer? And he said this, he says genetics loads the gun. Personality and psychology aims the gun, experiences pull the trigger.

• 1:47:47Adam Sosnick?

  Wow.

• 1:47:48Patrick Bet-David?

  So apply that to this. Okay, maybe genetics loads the mouth.

• 1:47:53Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:47:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay? But personality and psychology, Oprah, is what aims the food here. And you kept doing this.

• 1:48:01Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay?

• 1:48:02Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And then experiences, you're sitting around, everybody's eating pizza, cheesecake. Let me have one as well, let me have one as well. So this lazy.

• 1:48:10Adam Sosnick?

  So lazy.

• 1:48:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Always deflecting responsibility on why you look the way you do. Oh my God, just stop it already.

• 1:48:18Adam Sosnick?

  He needs a mouth goalie.

• 1:48:18Patrick Bet-David?

  It makes me think of what Cartman used to say on South Park. He'd be like, I'm not fat, I'm just big boned. It's like, no. You fat dude.

• 1:48:26Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, you need a mouth goalie, that's what she needs.

• 1:48:28Patrick Bet-David?

  There it is, this thing right here, Rob. I'm not fat, I'm big boned.

• 1:48:31Adam Sosnick?

  That's what your mom said, buddy.

• 1:48:33Patrick Bet-David?

  As we're going through this logic, let's go through this next one, Josh Hawley. Is asking a doctor, a very basic question, folks. By the way, if you're in a good mood right now, you're gonna be in a bad mood in 90 seconds. You'll get your food. This doctor is gonna annoy the hell out of you in 90 seconds. Josh Hawley is trying to get the answer to one question. Can men get pregnant? He has to ask it 11 times. Go ahead.

• 1:49:04Speaker 26

  Said a moment ago that science and evidence should control, not politics. So let's just test that proposition. Can men get pregnant?

• 1:49:13Speaker 27

  I take care of people with many identities, but um

• 1:49:16Speaker 26

  Can men get pregnant?

• 1:49:17Speaker 27

  I take care of many women that can get pregnant. I do take care of people that don't identify as women.

• 1:49:22Speaker 26

  Can, can men get pregnant?

• 1:49:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Three.

• 1:49:25Speaker 27

  Again, as I'm saying

• 1:49:27Speaker 26

  Let me just, let me just remind you what you testified to a moment ago. Science and evidence should control, not politics. So should, can men get pregnant?

• 1:49:35Speaker 27

  I told you, science and evidence should guide medicine.

• 1:49:39Speaker 26

  Do science and evidence tell us that men can get pregnant? Biological men, can they get pregnant?

• 1:49:44Speaker 27

  I also think yes, no questions like this are a political tool.

• 1:49:48Speaker 26

  No, yes, no questions are about the truth, doctor. Let's not make a mockery of this proceeding. This is about science and evidence. So I'm asking you, you know, the United States Supreme Court just heard arguments yesterday at great length on this question. This is not a hypothetical question. This is not theoretical. It affects real people in their real lives. And you're here as an expert, called by the other side as an expert. And you've been telling us that you, that you follow, right, you're a doctor. And you follow the science and the evidence. So I just wanna know, based on the science, can men get pregnant?

• 1:50:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Seven.

• 1:50:22Speaker 26

  I'd say yes or no question. It really is, I think.

• 1:50:24Speaker 27

  I think you're trying to reduce the complexity of a lot of

• 1:50:27Speaker 26

  I'm not, I'm trying to, it's not complex. I'm trying to get to an answer and I'm trying to test frankly, your veracity.

• 1:50:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Great work.

• 1:50:35Speaker 26

  As a medical professional and as a scientist.

• 1:50:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, starting to think he can get pregnant.

• 1:50:39Speaker 27

  I think you're also conflating male and female with

• 1:50:43Speaker 26

  No, I'm not conflating male and female. They're two different things. There's biological men and there's biological women. And I wanna know, can men get pregnant?

• 1:50:52Speaker 27

  What you were talking about is biological males.

• 1:50:58Speaker 26

  This isn't hard, doctor. Can men get pregnant? Yes or no?

• 1:51:04Speaker 27

  I would be more than happy to have a conversation with you that is not coming from a place of trying to be polarized.

• 1:51:12Speaker 26

  I'm not trying to be polarizing. I'm trying to ask, I think it is extraordinary that we are here and hearing about science and about women. And for the record, it's women who get pregnant, not men.

• 1:51:25Speaker 03

  No, it's birthing people, Senator Hawley. And going back, okay, this is, okay, every time we think we've gone past this, we come all the way back. And going off of what she said about this party, this ideology, this leftist being evil, guys, this is, when you can't differentiate male or female, and you're pushing it out there, and you are a doctor, when you are pushing surgery and transitioning to children, when you're pushing for violence, for stuff to happen, all this stuff equates to a party of evil. And let's, okay, yes, there's Republicans, neocons that want war, yeah, they're evil as well. But this party has nothing positive to stand on. And then I said this a month ago.

• 1:52:09Speaker 03

  Name me one, I know that there's Christian Democrats, name me one, one, that's openly out there saying, hey, as a Christian, this is wrong, kids can't do this, abortion, 73 million abortions a year worldwide, it's wrong. We shouldn't be murdering these children. Where is the one Christian voice that's up, standing up for this freaking nonsense? Where is it? Where are they?

• 1:52:32Speaker 04

  On their side, there's gotta be some.

• 1:52:34Speaker 03

  Where is one? I'm saying, have you heard of vocally, like, this is preposterous. You're sitting in Congress, mind you, this isn't a conversation at a hookah bar or a cigar lounge, and you're just, nah, well, I want to debate. You're in front of Congress, you're in front of the world, and you cannot answer a simple yes or no if men could get pregnant. They can't. End of story, move on. So, and, because my question is to you, and, why is she so defiant? What is making her stick to her guns, so to speak?

• 1:53:02Speaker 04

  I am baffled at how the Democrats are absolutely sticking with the transgender thing, no matter how many people dislike it.

• 1:53:10Speaker 04

  If I can make a point about, completely off topic, but on your abortion point. Bobby Weir of the Grateful Dead died this week and there's a fantastic video of him talking about how he was adopted and he found the birth parents and his father turned out to be like an air force captain or something, but it was a pretty cool story. And I was thinking I have to add him to my list of all these people who would not have been born if their mothers had gotten pregnant after Roe v. Wade and they would not be with us and I think it's God telling us. Wow. Jeff Bezos, Steve Jobs, Jack Nicholson, now Bobby Weir I'd forgotten about, obviously Tim Tebow. I have a long, long list, these are the ones I'm thinking of off the top of my head, but

• 1:53:55Speaker 04

  another adopted, amazing, amazing person.

• 1:53:58Speaker 03

  And again, going back to the point of what does this party stand for? There's no backbone, there's no faith, there's no nothing, it's to me, it's just anti positivity, anti-Trump and it's just all negativity. There's like nothing positive coming from these people.

• 1:54:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's a very logical line there, but it is insanity, right? It is insanity, but there's the logic of insanity. She's being asked a scientific question in Congress, but she worships at the altar of liberalism, which needs to create and enable these groups, which are then the victims, which are the blood on the flag that they wave. It's that simple. And so she can't answer a scientific question when she is sitting there about to violate the tenets of her belief in liberalism. And if you follow that logic, you say, well, that's perfectly logical why she can't do it. It's insanity, it's weird, it's bizarre, but it is her faith because she worships at the altar of liberalism.

• 1:55:01Speaker 03

  Great friggin' point.

• 1:55:02Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I mean, I've been trying to have a baby with my girlfriend and... This whole time, I've been the one that's been trying to get pregnant. And it's just not working.

• 1:55:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:55:14Adam Sosnick?

  And she's like, dude, can you do it? I'm like, I'm trying, babe.

• 1:55:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:55:17Adam Sosnick?

  And they go, by the way, have you thought about maybe her being the one getting it?

• 1:55:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that what it is?

• 1:55:21Adam Sosnick?

  I was like, what?

• 1:55:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait a minute.

• 1:55:23Adam Sosnick?

  She's the one that does it?

• 1:55:24Patrick Bet-David?

  That's weird.

• 1:55:25Adam Sosnick?

  So I called my mom and I go, mom, is it true that you're the one that birthed me? She goes, yeah, hon, why, it wasn't your dad. I go, mom, you're gonna be offending some people right now. But this is the offensiveness, like, you're now offending our common sense. And shout out to Senator Hawley, what an easy job he has at this point. Hey, you know what? Like Ronald Reagan was the great communicator. He brought down communism, you know, Abraham Lincoln had to end the civil war. Josh Hawley has to get up and say, can men have babies? And you're doing great service for the American public.

• 1:56:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Can I?

• 1:56:01Adam Sosnick?

  Because stupidity is there.

• 1:56:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I wanna, I wanna, I wanna raise this, go off of what Anja said. And it inspired me to look this up. Who are the top leaders around the world who were adopted or raised by family? You ready for these names? I knew about Steve Jobs. He was adopted by an Armenian family, by Armenian mother, by the way.

• 1:56:20Adam Sosnick?

  Steve Jobs?

• 1:56:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Steve Jobs, adopted at birth, later co-founded Apple.

• 1:56:23Adam Sosnick?

  Shout out to the Armenians.

• 1:56:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Larry Ellison was adopted as an infant, founder of Oracle. Dave Thomas, adopted, founder of Wendy's. He lives, lived in our community, just so you know, before he passed away, the house to the left. Marilyn Monroe, placed in foster care, later adopted. Faith Hill, adopted shortly after birth, later became a global music icon. John Lennon, raised and legally adopted by his aunt, Mimi. Nelson Rockefeller, adopted. Malcolm X, foster care after father's death and mother's institutionalization. Bill Clinton, raised by grandparents, later stepfather. Simone Biles, raised by grandparents, later adopted by them. Louis Armstrong, raised by grandmother and other guardians.

• 1:57:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Oprah Winfrey, raised by grandmother and later relatives. Eleanor Roosevelt, orphaned young, raised by grandmother. Jack Nicholson, raised by grandparents, believing they were his parents. Eric Clapton, raised by grandparents. Colin Kaepernick, adopted by white parents. Yes. Major cultural figure, later on blamed them. Okay, Maya Angelou, raised by grandmother after early trauma. Babe Ruth, raised in a reform school under guardianship. Can you imagine if these guys were aborted?

• 1:57:41Speaker 04

  Never born.

• 1:57:42Patrick Bet-David?

  These guys changed the world, literally, Steve Jobs.

• 1:57:45Speaker 04

  How many have we lost?

• 1:57:46Speaker 03

  Colin Kaepernick, that's a great point you make. How many have we lost? Seventy, I saw the number and I had to double check it. Seventy-three million children are murdered every single year in the world. That, what? What? And I know people are gonna be like, well incest, no, no, the number of incest, put that away. People that are willingly going and going, you know what? I don't want it, I'm gonna murder this kid.

• 1:58:11Speaker 04

  And it wasn't that hard for, both in Weir's case and, and Jobs' case, okay, the parents are in college. Yeah, it's a bad time to get pregnant. They go away.

• 1:58:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:23Speaker 04

  The, Weir didn't even know, because, or Weir's father didn't know, because the mother never told him. They were college kids, she just went to, um, I don't know, San Francisco Bay Area. Had the baby, gave it up for adoption. It's, it's not gonna wreck your life.

• 1:58:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, exactly. By the way, I just looked up what, uh, number is, uh, for abortions in 2024. Uh, 1,038,000. Where? In America alone. Just here. Just here, worldwide, you said 73 million?

• 1:58:52Speaker 03

  I think 73 million.

• 1:58:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, 73 million. A year, 1.14 million is the number. And by the way, can you pull up by ethnicity? Or by, yeah. By background, to see what it is? We'd love to see some data on this. Okay, black, African Americans, you ready?

• 1:59:08Speaker 04

  Overwhelming.

• 1:59:09Patrick Bet-David?

  They're only 13% of the population, they're 41% of the abortions. So out of the 1,410,000 were black, African American, white, non Hispanic, 33 to 36, Hispanic 20 to 22, Asian 6 to 7, everybody else is 2 to 3% of the abortion. Okay, thank you Margaret, what was her last name?

• 1:59:29Speaker 03

  Sanger?

• 1:59:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it Sanger? She's a Planned Parenthood person, right?

• 1:59:33Speaker 03

  And notice, notice how the phrasing, Tupac, now you wanna move on? Look at how innocent and Planned Parenthood, they should just name it baby killing, come here and we'll kill your baby.

• 1:59:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:42Tom Ellsworth?

  If you, if you take a look at the voting block, Barack Obama shouldn't have been our first black president. He should have been our second. If you go back to 1973 and look at the size of the voting blocks and the size of the populace that would have made up the United States, statistically speaking, he should have been our second black president.

• 2:00:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Somebody should have made it there, is what you're saying. Like, somebody else would have made it there, yeah. Let me get to Venezuela. Let's talk about Venezuela here, because, and I know you've written about this, you've talked about this. So, President Trump brags about a very good call with terrific Venezuelan president ahead of meeting of opposition leader. Rob, if you want to pull up this clip, is this the vice president of Maduro, right? This is the person that replaced Maduro, that was under Maduro?

• 2:00:26Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 2:00:27Patrick Bet-David?

  If that's the call. Okay, Rob, do you want to play this clip? Okay, go for it, Rob.

• 2:00:30Speaker 28

  And we'll see how it all works out. I think something will work out, yeah.

• 2:00:34Speaker 09

  President.

• 2:00:35Speaker 29

  Venezuela, Cabello, the de facto number two in Venezuela right now, he seemed pretty reluctant to work with the US, and obviously he's in...

• 2:00:43Speaker 28

  With us? They just gave us 50 million barrels of oil.

• 2:00:47Speaker 29

  The number two, the Venezuelan security...

• 2:00:49Speaker 28

  I know the number one, we just had a great conversation today, and she's a terrific person. I mean, she's somebody that we've worked with very well. Marco Rubio is dealing with her. I dealt with her this morning. We had a call, a long call. We discussed a lot of things, and I think we're getting along very well with Venezuela. Mr. President.

• 2:01:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So, open-ended question. What do you think about everything that's going on with Venezuela? Everything that happened and is going on?

• 2:01:12Speaker 04

  Oh, I think it's fantastic. I'm so happy that he is pursuing this Monroe Doctrine. I do care about what happens in our hemisphere, and just, I mean, I love that, both on his Iran bombing, which I wasn't in favor of before it happened, but he just did it and left, not sending in troops. And he does the same thing in Venezuela. Just goes in, grabs the guy who's been under indictment, under the Obama administration, under the Trump administration. They gave up, I mean, it's just a ridiculous communist government, and it's just a drug cartel. That's the only way Venezuela makes money. It did have to be shut down. I like the idea, and I like the way Rubio talks about it especially, I like the idea of America going in and...

• 2:01:58Speaker 04

  Installing puppets. Um, I don't, we didn't have a problem with fentanyl on a hundred thousand Americans dying of, of drugs every year back when we were installing puppets in Latin America. We didn't have open borders and, and, and millions of people streaming across our border. This isn't our neighborhood. It's really, really affecting our country. So I love that he did it.

• 2:02:20Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. If there's one person I trust in this situation, it's Marco Rubio. A hundred percent. His family is Cuban immigrants. He understands what's going on. I mean, born and raised, obviously, uh, raised in Miami. By the way, the, uh, how many, I can't, I don't know if I have more Colombian friends or Venezuelan friends, but they're everywhere in Miami. I've asked every single Venezuelan, Colombian, I go, yes or no Maduro? They're like, get them out of here. Not one person has said, well, you never know. You know, juxtapose that with the Ayatollah situation, the, the equivocating over here. By the way, did you notice as soon as we took out Maduro, the Colombian president, Petro, was all tough and bluster goes, yeah, yeah, I'll come meet you at the White House, sir.

• 2:03:05Adam Sosnick?

  Like, I'll come meet you. All of a sudden, when you take out a bad dude, other bad dudes start to act a little bit better. Uh, by the way, FYI to the people of Cuba, you never know what's going to happen to your leader next. I'm just saying.

• 2:03:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You never know what's going to happen to your leader and you don't know what's going to happen to Cuba. You know, uh, can you imagine by the end of his term, we're debating where to go for summer? Oh, let's go to, uh, Waldorf Astoria in Cuba. Let's, let's go to St. Regis for Cuba. Really? Yeah, let's just go and get over there. What? This is, this is a, a, a very unique thing when you think about this whole concept of how we went, America went from playing offense and went from being smaller to 13 colonies. We fought and were willing to put our lives on the line for 3% taxes. And then we come down and we have these 13 colonies and then we get started. America does, the great founding fathers.

• 2:04:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm a byproduct of what they did for my family to have moved here to have the life that I have. Then we buy Louisiana, 15 million. Then we buy Florida 5 million, then Texas comes to us. Then Alaska 7.2 million, then the war for, you know, California, Arizona with Mexico. And then we could go all the way down. James Polk says, let's take over all of Mexico. Little bit of hesitation because of Catholic Mexicans to be part of that and have a representation. And then let's take over Cuba. He draws that whole line and then no one talks about it. And then there's World War I, America's afraid. Then we come back, then there's World War II. Hey, let's start the CIA 1947. Let's start doing all these coups and proxies. And all of a sudden, let's get involved in everyone's marriage and everyone's business and everyone's this. And this guy's coming up and saying, no, I want Greenland. What do you want to do about it?

• 2:04:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, we're gonna attack you, Denmark. Go ahead. I want Greenland. That's not how it works. It actually does. I want Greenland. That's not how this works. You don't study history. Go study history. If somebody comes in and says they want this land, you can fight for it. And I can choose to fight, or you can do a deal and I pay you. And then let me go build something I want to build. There was a tweet that came out today from Trump. We can't find it. He says, "I promise you I won't build a Trump Tower in Greenland." That's from 2019. I don't know if you guys seen this one or not. Do you remember that tweet with the picture? So, and guess what he's doing now? Venezuela, it's Monroe, Donro. Hey, this is on the western. I don't, I really, really like the way he's thinking. Yeah, this right here tweet. Is Twitter back up, by the way, Rob?

• 2:05:31Patrick Bet-David?

  It is. It's up and down. It's back up? Okay, good. Yeah, this is a tweet, by the way, from 2019. That's crazy. Go to the bottom, Rob. "I promise not to do this to Greenland." August 19, 2019, six years ago, five and a half years ago. So, I don't mind any of this stuff. The part that I want to ask you about is the following. So, is it Eduardo de Mundo Gonzalez? I'm saying the name incorrectly. Eduardo Gonzalez, the guy who wins, Edmundo Gonzalez, who wins, and Maria Carina Machado becomes under him, which is really her winning, but she becomes a, you know, front face. And the election numbers comes out. We had her on the podcast a week after she won. And we had a conversation with her. So, why are you not being more vocal and going and talking about it?

• 2:06:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You're just hiding. And she goes to the White House, Rob, if you want to play the clip. She just won a Nobel Peace Prize. Few months ago, and she goes in and hands over the Nobel Peace Prize to the president. Okay, and that's what she got. And if Rob, if you want to go play the clip of her saying that and handing it over to her, no, the one where she says that, "I am here proudly wanting to give my Nobel Peace Prize to President Trump," and she is recognizing him and Peace Prize Trump, and there's a speech, if you can't find it, it's fine, we'll just go into it. Okay, it's all good if we can't find the clip, I'll look forward. This is her with Fox News where she Afterwards, he deserves it. Okay, go for it.

• 2:06:56Speaker 07

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• 2:07:27Speaker 08

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• 2:07:57Speaker 30

  In spite of the Nobel Prize Committee saying that you couldn't transfer your Nobel Prize to anyone, especially President Trump, you did today. Why did you do that?

• 2:08:08Speaker 21

  Because he deserves it. And it was a very emotional moment. I decided to present

• 2:08:18Speaker 21

  The Nobel Peace Prize Medal on behalf of the people of Venezuela. In spite of the Nobel Prize Committee saying that you...

• 2:08:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so she does that, which is great, very noble, and I think a part of it she wants to do to give him credit because the day she won it, that day she said, "I don't know why you're giving it to me, you should have given it to her." President responds, "It was my great honor to meet Coria, Maria Machado of Venezuela today. She's a wonderful woman who has been through so much. Maria presented me with her Nobel Peace Prize for the work I've done. Such a wonderful gesture of mutual respect." Thank you, Maria. Great. Even with this, this guy, this unique guy, was still not flattered enough to say,

• 2:09:02Patrick Bet-David?

  "You can have the job." Yeah. Watch what Caroline Levitt says here. Go ahead.

• 2:09:07Speaker 31

  Is it still the president's assessment that it would be very hard for Ms. Machado to leave Venezuela? Because he says she lacks the respect and support in that country. And will he raise that with her too?

• 2:09:20Speaker 12

  I think the president's assessment that you just pointed out was based on realities on the ground. It was a realistic assessment based on what the president was reading and hearing from his advisers and national security team. And at this moment in time, his opinion on that matter has not changed.

• 2:09:37Speaker 31

  He has also said that he would like there to be elections in Venezuela when the time is right. Do you have any update on when that might be? And is he committed to a transition to democracy for Venezuela?

• 2:09:49Speaker 12

  Yes, and he is also committed to hopefully seeing elections in Venezuela one day, but I don't have an updated timetable for you today.

• 2:09:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, reaction to it. I want to hear from you. Your reaction on the fact that he still is not giving her the throne?

• 2:10:02Speaker 04

  Well, for one thing, it gives the lie to the Washington Post and various MSNBC there snipping. "He won't let her be leader because she won the no..." No, it has nothing to do with that. I think it's the same thing as with Reza. No, she's not going to be the leader. "We need a military junta there." Exactly what you were saying about Iran. No, for one thing, I think it should be a man. This is an Hispanic macho culture. But it's, it ought to be someone with the support of the military. I would not let those people vote again. They voted for Chavez over and over again. It was the poor people, the peasants, running out. "Oh, you're gonna give us the golf courses." And yep, we gave them the golf courses. Well, okay, this is what they got. They voted for this.

• 2:10:45Speaker 04

  So do not let those people vote again. It's gonna have to be a military guy. I understand this from her perspective. I think it was from the heart. He has done a lot. If there were a legitimate Peace Prize in the world, Trump should have won it. I don't think the Nobel Peace Prize is legitimate. I don't know why Trump does want it. I think it's kind of embarrassing that he accepted it. He should have thanked her and said, "That's a lovely gesture." But, poof, it's the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm like, this means nothing to me.

• 2:11:16Speaker 03

  Obama got it with, how long was Obama in?

• 2:11:19Speaker 04

  I don't think he was even president yet, was he?

• 2:11:21Speaker 03

  No, I think it was like, he just showed up and like, "Hey, here, take this."

• 2:11:24Adam Sosnick?

  You've got mail.

• 2:11:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're Jesus to us, but I think, you made a good point about the raison d'aller. He doesn't feel, he knows. He's like, all the flattery in the world, Trump is laser-focused right now. And I think, you know what? Why the left and all these people, they're not used to a real leader, okay? And they're just, and I can't even blame them. They're not used to it. They've never had this type of freaking boss coming. You know what it reminds me of? Like, a mother getting divorced, and the old dad was like, "Whatever." And the new stepdad comes in, and he's like a Marine retired, and the kids don't know how, oh my God! There's discipline, there's freaking order. Let's not forget Venezuela emptied the freaking prisons.

• 2:12:05Speaker 03

  All the drug boys, trended agua, going around taking up freaking residency in apartments in freaking, in Colorado. But here's my thing. If there's a way that the United States can make Venezuela a better place for those trended agua and the people hitting ice with shovels in the head, good. I'm all for it. Make your place good so you don't have to come here and ruin ours. Plain and simple. That's it.

• 2:12:29Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, and it's pretty clear, you know, socialism or communism sounds good, but it's not good. So if we want to implement this new down-row doctrine, you know, let's keep communism and socialism. Let's keep it as far into the eastern hemisphere as possible. But if it's gonna creep into the western hemisphere, like it has done in Venezuela.

• 2:12:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:12:52Adam Sosnick?

  Amazing country, now ruined. Cuba, we've seen what's going on there. Brazil, your friend Lula. You mentioned Cuba. Have you ever been to Cuba?

• 2:13:01Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 2:13:02Adam Sosnick?

  I've been to Cuba 10 years ago.

• 2:13:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:04Adam Sosnick?

  For our friend Keith's bachelor party. I don't know how he pulled it off. He went on some mission trip. And here's how I would define communism and socialism. We get there.

• 2:13:15Adam Sosnick?

  It's literally the 1950s. Like, it's like you're a time traveler. Shout out to Candace Owens who thinks that Charlie Kirk's a time traveler now. That's another whole story. You know, I love Back to the Future, but you go back to the future in Cuba and you get there, you check into your hotel and you're living, you know, in the center of town, city center, and it's genuinely nice in your little part of city center.

• 2:13:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:40Adam Sosnick?

  And then you get in a car and you say, let's go drive around. And it's like, you know how like Disney World? It looks like it's a nice building and you go in and it's all just fake. Everything is broken down, has not been fixed. Nothing works. Everything's dilapidated. Buildings are crumbling. Nothing's been updated since the 1950s, 1960s. So it looks great on the surface and then you open the door, you pop the hood or you drive around the block and the whole thing is crumbling. That is communism.

• 2:14:11Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, did you guys go out? Like, was there nightlife?

• 2:14:14Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, we went out.

• 2:14:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Women, nice party?

• 2:14:16Adam Sosnick?

  I'm not allowed to talk about it, pal.

• 2:14:17Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I'm just telling you, I'm asking you.

• 2:14:19Adam Sosnick?

  We did go out.

• 2:14:19Patrick Bet-David?

  So it was good? It was fun?

• 2:14:21Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, I mean-

• 2:14:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Was it like a 50-year ago Miami vibe? Like, is it like that or was it still, you felt like you're in a different country?

• 2:14:29Adam Sosnick?

  You're definitely, I mean, I live in Miami, so to me, going out in Doral or going out in Caracas or Havana, it's the same thing. But it's, it's very interesting. Ernest Hemingway, the whole thing.

• 2:14:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:14:41Adam Sosnick?

  But you're traveling, literally driving around in American Cadillacs from 57, 57 Chevy.

• 2:14:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Western Hemisphere. That's Western Hemisphere. So he could do something with that as well. And by the way, you know, there's enough people. Where is Ted Cruz from, by the way? Isn't he Cuban?

• 2:14:58Speaker 04

  Well, he was born in Canada, but his father's Cuban.

• 2:15:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I get it. I get it. But isn't his father Cuban? Like, yeah, so I think there's enough interested parties that I think, I don't know. Well, go down to Miami, you'll see what they think about it. Expansionist mindset as a capitalist. I don't mind that. I know it's gonna upset a lot of socialist and communist and TDS folks, but I don't mind it. So let me get to the last story. Rob, do you have the story of what happened with the shovel and the shooting and like two guys at the same time? You know which one I'm talking about, Vinnie?

• 2:15:35Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:15:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so Rob, what pages this on?

• 2:15:39Speaker 03

  This happened two days ago.

• 2:15:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this the one that says illegal Venezuelan migrant shot in Minneapolis, Rob? Is that the one? Okay, so illegal Venezuelan migrant shot in Minneapolis.

• 2:15:47Speaker 04

  Been drunk and stupid for the last 24 hours.

• 2:15:48Patrick Bet-David?

  After mercilessly ambushing Fed agent with snow shovel.

• 2:15:53Speaker 04

  Weird.

• 2:15:53Patrick Bet-David?

  According to DHS.

• 2:15:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:15:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Again, another one of those that sounds like an Onion story or a Babylon Bee story, but it's not.

• 2:16:02Patrick Bet-David?

  So, an illegal Venezuelan migrant was shot in the leg by a federal immigration agent in Minneapolis after he allegedly fled during the traffic stop and beat the ambush officer with a snow shovel. Wednesday evening, the Department of Homeland Security said the suspect was behind the wheel when he tried to get away from federal immigration officers at 6:50 PM local time, but he crashed into a parked car. Great driver. The migrant then tried to escape on foot and violently assaulted the officer as two wrestled on the ground, according to an X post. While the man continued to struggle with the officer, two other people emerged from a nearby apartment and allegedly mercilessly attacked the agent with a snow shovel and broom handle.

• 2:16:44Patrick Bet-David?

  In the chaos, Rob, do you have the video on this? Is there documentation on this?

• 2:16:48Speaker 03

  I don't think there's actual video of it happening, but I'm pretty sure Rob will have the three Venezuelan illegals that were involved in it. And notice, you're not gonna see, you're not gonna see it plastered everywhere. It was like on for like an hour, but then it disappears. You know why? It doesn't fit the narrative. It's not a mother of three who, they're using old photos. No, it's three dudes that look like they just got out of prison.

• 2:17:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Can we see the pictures, Rob?

• 2:17:14Speaker 03

  Robbie, do you have a photo about three Venezuelans that were, but wait, tell me how peaceful and sweet these guys look? You don't see them liberals sticking up for these guys, huh? The family, this guy's right here. Those are the three guys. Yeah, we have to go to the Hindu stand times to get the picture. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Great point. Hindu stand times to show these dudes. Where's the riots? Where's the craziness? Where's the wildness? So, by the way, and where does he get the attitude of, you know what? I'm gonna get out of my car, I'm gonna try to hit him with my car, and then a door opens from a house, two other Van Nuys come out and start beating him with shovels. Anybody want to take a wild stab in the dark of where the hell they're getting this attitude?

• 2:17:55Speaker 03

  Because the freaking mayor, the governor, and Ilhan Omar are like, guys, fight back. Okay, this is the enemy. Okay, notice how it didn't make it, right, Tom? This isn't, but you barely saw it.

• 2:18:06Patrick Bet-David?

  What is this?

• 2:18:08Speaker 03

  This is, go ahead, Rob.

• 2:18:09Speaker 22

  This is a separate incident. This is a Latin Kings member. So while that police officer reportedly was being attacked, other police officers in Minneapolis went to his aid. While they were doing that, this Latin Kings member then broke into a police car and then stole police weaponry, including a gun, bullets, and a bulletproof vest.

• 2:18:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Simultaneously, this is what you were telling me in the back.

• 2:18:29Speaker 22

  Yep, so it happened at the same time, and then the FBI just arrested this guy yesterday.

• 2:18:33Speaker 03

  FBI arrested, but now think about it. Now they're armed. They tied chains to the gun locker, and then they have another car go drive in. Just in FYI, I want people out there to know.

• 2:18:43Patrick Bet-David?

  What are these guys doing?

• 2:18:45Speaker 03

  They're stealing everything from the car, weapons, guns, magazines, bullets. That's a long rifle, stolen.

• 2:18:50Patrick Bet-David?

  FBI rifle.

• 2:18:51Speaker 03

  Don't worry, look at that tattoo. Guys, is that a father from Maryland? Is that another father from Maryland? Is that who the hell that was? That Maryland man has a gun. Oh, that was a Minnesota man, because he's a dad, right? Give me a break, and I'm gonna warn everybody out there. For all these morons out there, hopefully this hits one of their TVs or their phones. If you get into a cop car that's armed.

• 2:19:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's recording this?

• 2:19:15Speaker 03

  Just people, idiots. They want clout. They're recording. Look at it, look at it. This man's a professional setup.

• 2:19:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You're a dumb criminal.

• 2:19:21Speaker 03

  All of them are stupid. These are the dumbest criminals. They record everything. Morons. But just, just, I want to finish my point. If you jump in a cop car, Ann, and there's weapons in the cop car, and they're, they could shoot and kill you as you're leaving. Because now you're gonna go and they don't know what

• 2:19:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Is this the guy?

• 2:19:39Speaker 03

  This is the guy that stole the stuff out of it.

• 2:19:40Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm shocked the dude who made the decision to tattoo his face.

• 2:19:44Speaker 03

  Weird.

• 2:19:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Made some other unfortunate decisions.

• 2:19:47Speaker 03

  Minnesota Takashi 69 is out there breaking into vehicles and stealing guns. Okay.

• 2:19:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Takashi 612. Thoughts on this, both of them?

• 2:19:55Speaker 04

  It's interesting how hard it is to get the pictures and the videos of this. Boy, you're not seeing that on MSNBC. You're not seeing that on CNN. And also reminds us, yeah, he should be sending in federal troops. This is, it's kind of an embarrassing mistake that the FBI, I don't, I don't care that somebody's being attacked. You gotta hit the clicker on your car when it's full of weapons like this. They should have left somebody to guard the weapons. That's not good. But yeah, this is most of the people they're arresting.

• 2:20:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 2:20:27Speaker 04

  One more thing about this, I'm sorry to finish.

• 2:20:31Speaker 04

  The things that they had, besides being let in illegally by Biden, besides being probable criminals in Venezuela, the only crimes they had committed in this country were relatively minor if you only read it in prose. You know, they lied to police officers, they were driving without a license. This is what they look like. The difference between a, oh, no criminal conviction illegal, and a criminal conviction illegal is about one week.

• 2:20:58Speaker 03

  Yes. You're 100% right. I agree.

• 2:21:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, it's just like, let me, let me translate. Oh, no, they're deporting our voting bloc. I mean, that's, that's, that's really if you translate it. And you look at this stuff and this is Portland. We're seeing it again. This is just like Portland. And now we're gonna defund the police. This mayhem will continue and then their people are gonna be coming back voting. These are liberals in Portland that are voting for restoration of justice. And they're changing the names of all the groups of the police officers instead of SWAT to rapid response teams. Cause maybe that feels better, but it's the same thing. Five guys have invaded my house. Can you please come get them? Preferably drag them out, thank you.

• 2:21:46Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, come conduct some police business. And that's what's going on here. I'm not being silly. We are seeing it in Portland. We're about to see a complete...

• 2:21:57Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, we've seen people in Chicago that would stop the citizen journalists and says, "Hey, man, we need Trump to send them here. Please send them here." Reasonable people of multiple ethnicities that are living in these areas of the town. "Hey, man, I'm a South sider. Go White Sox. Look at what's going on here. We need... The police need help."

• 2:22:19Speaker 03

  I'm just... Mind you, please hear me completely out. I'm not hoping or wishing any of this to happen. But in my mind, I'm like, what would make this, these people, especially the higher-ups and the Tim Walz, the Ilhan Omar, the Frye, the Gavin Newsom? What would make them? I know, cause it is a voting block thing. Like, I'm just wondering, like, would a phone call? Like, let's just say, God forbid, "Hey Gavin, yeah, what's going on? I hate to say this to you, but your son, God rest his... Was just killed." Oh, my God. The first question, what, what happened? An illegal that wasn't supposed to be in the country was drunk driving and ran over him. I'm very curious to what happens to his pro-open border, illegal, we need the votes, give

• 2:23:04Speaker 03

  them healthcare. Does that change somewhat like that? Or do they stick, stick, uh, still stick to their guns?

• 2:23:09Tom Ellsworth?

  He blames Trump the same way Frye is blaming ICE for fomenting violence in Minneapolis.

• 2:23:14Speaker 03

  Hundred percent, hundred percent. And that's my thing is...

• 2:23:16Tom Ellsworth?

  ICE is fomenting the violence. No, they're, they're arresting people.

• 2:23:20Speaker 03

  Yeah. And that's the thing is none, none of this has happened. None of this directly impacts any of the people that are out there, the Ilhan Omar stepping on trucks and saying... Until it happens to someone they love or someone that's close to them. I'm very curious to see if the tune changes. Cause I, but, but until that happens, they don't give a damn. Cause it's not their kids, not their wives getting sexually assaulted. They're not getting fricking their money stolen. So it's, it's, it's nonsense.

• 2:23:46Adam Sosnick?

  I think Minnesota needs their own version of Rudy Giuliani. Like how we cleaned up New York. And unfortunately they're just continuing to elect the mom Donnys in Minnesota. And no wonder is this, by the way, I'm born and raised in Miami. My mom is from Minnesota. I'd go to Minnesota every summer, winter. I would see people with snow shovels. I've never seen a Venezuelan with a snow shovel in Miami. What do you like Venezuelan and snow shovels? That's not a thing.

• 2:24:16Speaker 03

  How would a Venezuelan know how to operate a snow shovel?

• 2:24:19Adam Sosnick?

  It's like a Somali with a leering center. Why are these things occurring? I don't get it. But this to me, you know, Pat, you've talked about something called the hero making machine. So this guy, Jacob Frey, I just want to give this guy a big shout out to him. If we can show an image of him. This is what weak leadership looks like. This is the epitome of, what is it? Uh, good men create, uh, uh, strong men create good times. Good, good times create weak men. This is the weak man that they're talking about. Because in my opinion, he'd rather be liked than respected. Rudy Giuliani, to give him some credit, would rather be respected than liked. Being liked is fleeting.

• 2:25:03Adam Sosnick?

  People will turn on you in an instant. Being respected, yo, that's, that's respect, sir. So it's kind of like, we've seen this and it's a weird analogy in the NBA. David Stern was respected. Maybe people wasn't liked, but everyone respected him running the NBA. And now they got this guy, Adam Silver, that wants to be liked. And now the players are running the league, just like the protesters are running Minnesota. And just like the inmates are running the asylum. This is a failure of leadership and trying to make the hero making machine. This clown or George Floyd, rather than real people with real. I pray for Minnesota and I hope Venezuelans stop hanging out with snow shovels.

• 2:25:44Speaker 03

  And just, just because you mentioned his name, if this is okay, Pat, I want to play the video of your friend, Mayor Jacob Frey.

• 2:25:51Adam Sosnick?

  My friend, my boy.

• 2:25:53Speaker 03

  This is the biggest self-owned, he just made the argument against mass immigration, but he used ICE. Look at how stupid he looks. Go ahead, Rob.

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• 2:26:31Speaker 08

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• 2:27:03Speaker 32

  Imagine if that city, or that town, was suddenly invaded by thousands of federal agents that do not share the values that you hold dear.

• 2:27:14Speaker 03

  Minnesota.

• 2:27:15Speaker 32

  Imagine if your daily routines were disrupted. The local cafe that you eat at was shut down because they're scared that their own family might get torn apart.

• 2:27:27Speaker 03

  By ICE?

• 2:27:27Speaker 32

  Imagine if schools shut down and suddenly parents got to figure out what to do for daycare.

• 2:27:33Adam Sosnick?

  Buddy, those are the protesters that are rooting you. How are you not understanding? He is the funniest character. These protesters are rooting this. He's Somali's, yeah. Imagine the thousands of people, yeah. It's called Minnesota.

• 2:27:44Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's do, let's do this Clinton one and then we'll wrap up. So, facing contempt threat, Clinton refuses to testify in Epstein inquiry. Rob, if you got that, that's a New York Times story. And I think Jon Stewart responds to it as well. Is that James Comer, Rob?

• 2:27:57Speaker 22

  This is.

• 2:27:58Patrick Bet-David?

  What clips do you have on this? Because that's a long clip. Is there, what's Comer saying here, by the way?

• 2:28:02Speaker 22

  This is where he talks about actually prosecuting the Clintons for avoiding the subpoena.

• 2:28:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 2:28:07Speaker 00

  ...the White House, Jeffrey Epstein visited the White House 17 times while Bill Clinton was president. I've been in Congress nine years. I think I've been to the White House nine times in nine years. Epstein was in the White House double the amount of time that I was under one president. And then we know that Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's plane somewhere around 27 times after the presidency. So no one's accusing Bill Clinton of anything, any wrongdoing. We just have questions, and that's why the Democrats voted a lot more Republican.

• 2:28:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that the painting she's holding to the left? She have him! Is that the girl that goes to movies a lot? Yeah, she loves movies.

• 2:28:46Speaker 22

  Yes, Lauren Boebert.

• 2:28:47Patrick Bet-David?

  That's who it is?

• 2:28:48Speaker 22

  Lauren Boebert's holding these.

• 2:28:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I love her. Yeah, that's... She loves movies, man! And this is what Jon Stewart had to say about it. Let's see what Jon Stewart is saying. Because Jon Stewart, go ahead, go ahead, Rob.

• 2:28:57Speaker 33

  Does, is compliance a, a kind of specialized individual indigenous opportunity? Or is it, should it be universal? I mean, the Department of Justice has subpoenaed them to testify in the Jeffrey Epstein case while not complying with releasing the files. So how does that comport in any, but do I personally think they should comply? Absa-fucking-lutely. Absolutely. And, and if they've got something to hide or an affair, like, yes, we should know about all this. This is, this is bonkers how long this is going on.

• 2:29:35Speaker 34

  And we have only seen such a fraction. Well, I think I was reading it's the 2 million files to have to come out. It's 1% is what I've seen. Yeah, like that we've seen.

• 2:29:45Speaker 33

  And the casual nature in these emails are like, hey, can you get me an Indian and a redhead? Like, it's, they're just casually, it's literally like they're ordering from, you know, Uber Eats.

• 2:29:58Speaker 34

  And the spelling errors. It's humiliating.

• 2:30:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it right there. Okay. So, uh, where are you at with this? Where are you at with the whole Epstein thing?

• 2:30:07Speaker 04

  Um, I would, I, I think Trump made a big mistake. One of the biggest ones of his, of his second term. As for the Clinton thing...

• 2:30:18Speaker 04

  Well, I think it's utterly unfair. It's a great point Jon Stewart makes. When you're subpoenaed by Congress, you have to respond to the subpoena. And if they're going to prosecute Steve Bannon for not responding to a subpoena, and prosecute Peter Navarro for not... The problem with DC is it's run by Democrats. So, I mean, Eric Holder was in contempt of Congress. I think it was a virtually unanimous vote. And nothing can be done because it's a Democrat city. So that's a big problem when only one party has to respond to subpoenas. On the other hand, if I were Comer, I would have phrased it differently. I would have said, "We have this big issue with Epstein. We're trying to get the bottom. We're investigating it."

• 2:31:01Speaker 04

  You were the head of the Democratic Party. You were President of the United States. We want your help here. We want you to come investigate." And not set it up as assuming guilt on the part of Bill Clinton.

• 2:31:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting. Adam?

• 2:31:16Adam Sosnick?

  Bill Clinton's not gonna ever get in trouble, ever. It's not gonna happen.

• 2:31:21Speaker 03

  And that sucks.

• 2:31:22Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, by the way, there's no... I don't know if he's innocent, guilty. I don't know. That's not my thing. I just... There's not gonna be any accountability for Bill Clinton. There might be others. We saw what happened to Prince Andrew. We've seen what happened to... Who was it? Larry Summers? Is that who it was? Okay, Lawrence Summers, okay. Yes, yes, he stepped away. Bill Clinton ain't nothing happening to Bill Clinton. By the way, and I'm sure I'll catch a lot of heat from it, on all the things that are on my news feed that I'm gonna click on: China, tariffs, you know, Maduro, Venezuela, let's buy Greenland, at the bottom of my personal list is this Epstein situation. Is it important? Of course. Do we need to find out what happened? Of course. Am I holding my breath? Not at all.

• 2:32:08Speaker 03

  Okay, but you saying, Adam, nothing's gonna happen, which I agree with you, and I'll get to my point.

• 2:32:13Adam Sosnick?

  Thanks, Vincent.

• 2:32:14Speaker 03

  But does it bother you, Adam, that there's so much... There's not just smoke. There's a fire. The fire's burning, and it's been burning forever. Does it upset you, though, that none of them, none of them are gonna get held... accountable because for for one thing when you lawfully skip a subpoena you know what that that's saying I'm above the law and I could do what I what are you gonna do what are you gonna do if that was you Adam or if that was me bro you would have nobody you would have been a whisper nobody would have you're gone and you're gone forever okay and by the way uh you know what nobody talked about not one single Democrat from the House Oversight Committee showed up to even sit there and wait for them because they know that way this is the same party that's been like

• 2:32:58Speaker 03

  Trump and Trump where you where you at when it comes to them and this whole pedophile protecting nonsense it's it's it's preposterous okay all these people know they know when people are like oh it's Trump no no they know what the hell is going on Bill Clinton flew on the Lolita or whatever jet from Epstein 22 to 23 times who Jeffrey Epstein went to the White House what was it Rob 17 times in one year to see the president what were they what were they doing Adam were they trading recipes like carrot cake recipes no they were talking about him and going to Epstein Island we saw the photos coming out I think I get where you're saying nothing's gonna happen it's not one person's gonna hold them accountable and they're all gonna meet their freaking and Adam

• 2:33:42Speaker 03

  that gives me the most comfort in my heart of hearts is that you can run here and the prince of darkness runs this place but you're not running from him what happens if all these people that did all these illegal things except Jesus the last second yeah good luck again I'm being serious

• 2:33:58Adam Sosnick?

  I'm actually being serious if they yes in their hearts pedophiles and they care

• 2:34:05Speaker 04

  I think we are gonna find some stuff out

• 2:34:08Adam Sosnick?

  pedophiles on Epstein Island that they accept Jesus at the last second what happens

• 2:34:12Speaker 03

  in their heart of hearts in their heart of hearts they're good to go wow but hold on you think pedophiles in the last minute are gonna say that you think pedophiles no not like Scott not like

• 2:34:21Adam Sosnick?

  oh you don't think that pedophiles uh believe in Jesus have you heard of the Catholic Church buddy

• 2:34:26Speaker 03

  no I mean come on that's you're you're

• 2:34:29Speaker 04

  on the Epstein thing which is our topic um I think you're kind of right, it's not that interesting yet, but I don't see any reason why it won't get interesting, because the American people demanded that even Trump do something he doesn't want to do.

• 2:34:43Adam Sosnick?

  But Trump never said he wanted the... Nah, he didn't run on, but he said after... Cash Patel ran on this, Dan Bongino did his thing.

• 2:34:49Speaker 04

  No, I'm not talking about the...

• 2:34:50Adam Sosnick?

  Trump was like, Epstein, why are we still talking about this?

• 2:34:52Speaker 04

  The point is, a law was passed, they have to do it. 1% now, that's true, that's unfortunate, that's because they suddenly found a million more documents. I think we're gonna get the documents. I mean, they can't, if we don't now, we're gonna get them under President Vance. So, kinda boring now, but I think we're gonna get them at some point, and that's when it's gonna be at the top of your feed.

• 2:35:16Adam Sosnick?

  I just have one question for the great Ann Coulter. Are you more interested in the Epstein case, or what's going on in Iran?

• 2:35:23Speaker 04

  Oh, definitely Epstein. Twitter being down is number one.

• 2:35:26Adam Sosnick?

  No, I'm way more focused on Iran.

• 2:35:29Speaker 03

  Well, now, in regard to the story, the committee is set to vote on the contempt. If it passes, it goes to a full House vote, where Republicans own a majority, but then it goes to the DOJ, and Pam Bondi decides whether to prosecute. That's what I'm waiting for, because she has connections to Florida, I know she showed up after the whole Epstein situation happened, but Pam, with her 10,000 hours of videos and all that stuff, this is going, I don't want this, this isn't gonna die out for me, Adam. I'm waiting to find out what Pam Bondi does, because Bill and Hillary are kicking their feet up going, "We don't gotta do nothing. He can do whatever he wants, besides the Winnie the Broderick, and how many sexual assault allegations are on Bill? How many times did he have to fly to this island and meet with Epstein for somebody to go, 'Yay, seems like you're freaking guilty. It seems like he's guilty, Adam.'"

• 2:36:14Adam Sosnick?

  It's not your fault.

• 2:36:15Speaker 03

  I know it's not.

• 2:36:16Speaker 04

  I'd rather have Holly asking the questions.

• 2:36:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, you'll be both.

• 2:36:20Speaker 04

  I'm worried about House Republicans.

• 2:36:22Adam Sosnick?

  What is an island? Oh, no. What is an island? What?

• 2:36:26Speaker 03

  What does "is" mean? What is Islam?

• 2:36:29Tom Ellsworth?

  What is? This is already on a path for the DOJ because this is the first step. Congress pulls you in for a closed-door deposition and then they refer the matter to the DOJ. That's the path they're on. Bill and Hillary wrote this long letter to Comer that they immediately handed to the New York Times that said, "There's a time to defend the people, the practices, and the justice of the United States, and that time is now." So that they, right on cue, right on brand, portray themselves as being effectively patriots, freedom fighters, you know.

• 2:37:03Adam Sosnick?

  Victims.

• 2:37:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Cowering victims under the weight of mishandled abusive justice. That's their positioning. And so now they're gonna vote and say, "Do we hold them in contempt? And do we go to the DOJ?"

• 2:37:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Even Jon Stewart is done with it. You know, he's like, "Listen, stop it. You know, go out there and show up." The part is, if they don't show up, you could get away with it under any other president except for Trump. So if Trump was using his power to get rid of Maduro, try to get Greenland, if Trump really wanted to, he could really target and get Clintons. He's not. That's the question. Why not? Is it friends? Is it allies? Is it not important? Is it you're using the list? Is it you're using the list as a leverage?

• 2:37:58Adam Sosnick?

  We'll see, there's still time.

• 2:37:59Patrick Bet-David?

  There still is time. I'm just saying right now to you that.

• 2:38:01Adam Sosnick?

  You know how there's like-

• 2:38:02Patrick Bet-David?

  There for sure is.

• 2:38:03Adam Sosnick?

  There's like bro code?

• 2:38:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:38:04Adam Sosnick?

  Maybe there's like president code.

• 2:38:05Speaker 03

  No, no, I think-

• 2:38:07Adam Sosnick?

  Not anymore.

• 2:38:08Speaker 03

  Not anymore.

• 2:38:08Adam Sosnick?

  There used to be.

• 2:38:09Speaker 03

  I think he's waited, you know what would be the greatest move? He waits till the la- right when he's about to leave.

• 2:38:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You know who broke the president code?

• 2:38:15Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, that's on-

• 2:38:16Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, you know who broke the president code? One guy. Obama.

• 2:38:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Hussein.

• 2:38:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Obama broke the president code.

• 2:38:22Adam Sosnick?

  What'd he do?

• 2:38:23Patrick Bet-David?

  When Trump was campaigning, what do you mean?

• 2:38:24Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:38:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, my God.

• 2:38:26Patrick Bet-David?

  He broke the president.

• 2:38:27Adam Sosnick?

  Obama's lying on my campaign.

• 2:38:28Patrick Bet-David?

  To be respectful, George Bush kept the code.

• 2:38:30Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, he wrote Obama a nice letter?

• 2:38:32Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, but what I'm saying to you is never once did he come out criticizing Obama, even though every single day, if there was a word that Obama used the most, what was the one word? What was the one word?

• 2:38:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh.

• 2:38:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I inherited. Inherited was his rep. I would love to know how many times that Obama under his admini-

• 2:38:52Speaker 04

  That's a good point.

• 2:38:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Under his administration, used the word inherit. How many times? Can you ask Chad GBT?

• 2:38:58Adam Sosnick?

  Obama.

• 2:38:58Patrick Bet-David?

  How many times did Obama use the word, I inherited? How many times during his administration? I'm willing to bet nobody's used that phrase more than this guy.

• 2:39:08Speaker 04

  I'm gonna steal that from you. That's a great point.

• 2:39:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Over and over and over again, so.

• 2:39:12Adam Sosnick?

  Just give him a shout out.

• 2:39:12Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're saying, he, uh, I'd love to see a stat on this.

• 2:39:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:39:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, okay, if you're watching this right now and you're asking yourself, I fully disagree with what Adam had to say, or Vinnie has to say, and Epstein or any of the topics, or if you're watching this honestly, and I'm like being very honest with you guys, if you like Tom, you wanna help him out, minect him a good joke. This was horrible today. Send him a few dad jokes. Like, you know what I bought him for his birthday? Do you wanna tell everybody what I bought you for your birthday? Be honest.

• 2:39:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I had this very-

• 2:39:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Not Christmas, but birthday.

• 2:39:46Tom Ellsworth?

  It's like this little tower, there were three of them all wrapped real nice, opened them. It was three books on the greatest dad jokes ever.

• 2:39:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm trying to help out, guys.

• 2:39:53Tom Ellsworth?

  He's not reading it.

• 2:39:54Patrick Bet-David?

  No, he's not reading it, so Brooke Bailey, maybe encourage your dad to pick up that book, uh, instead of all the other books he's reading. And with Ann Coulter, Ann Coulter, if you're not already doing this, go follow her Substack and sign up for it. Rob, let's put the link below for people to go follow the Substack as well.

• 2:40:13Speaker 04

  Almost everything's free.

• 2:40:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I love, almost.

• 2:40:16Speaker 04

  I'm a very bad business woman.

• 2:40:18Adam Sosnick?

  Well, there's something called Bet David Consulting. If you wanna scale your business, we have a five-step process that basically is dummy-proof and you will scale your business to success.

• 2:40:27Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, here I am, Vinnie.

• 2:40:30Speaker 03

  Love your t-shirts. Thank you so much. I'll get you, I'm gonna get you a female one. They have a bunch, they have some colors on the tube, I'm gonna get you a white, I promise you, I got you.

• 2:40:38Adam Sosnick?

  Guys, it is the weekend, Miami, here I am, send me down to Miami. No, Adam, don't.

• 2:40:43Patrick Bet-David?

  That's Adam for you, by the way. We have a Democrat one, there he is, send him. Have a great weekend, if, just an FYI for everybody, if something goes on this weekend, we're gonna have an emergency podcast. So brace for impact if something crazy happens, because we have a president that's somewhat unpredictable. If something were to happen, we will do an emergency podcast. And Coulter, as usual, thanks for coming out, this was wonderful, you're awesome. Take care, everybody, have a great weekend, God bless everybody, take care, bye bye, bye bye.