"Leave Epstein Alone?" - Anna Paulina Luna: Epstein Files, JFK Russia Intel, Trump's Butler Cover-Up | PBD Podcast | Ep. 671

Patrick Bet-David sits down with Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna for an explosive conversation on the Epstein files, new JFK intelligence from Russia, and claims of a cover-up involving Trump’s former White House staff. ------ 👞 GET THE NEW FLB 1'S: https://bit.ly/4mXV9gd 📕 REGISTER FOR BPW 2025 - FRIDAY, DECEMBER 12TH 2025: ⁠https://bit.ly/3IU2YWx⁠ https://bit.ly/3IU2YWx 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2/ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc ⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 1:00Patrick Bet-David?

  When you came in, you said, look, here's what we're going to be doing. MLK, RFK, JFK, Epstein, UAP, 9/11, everything. And I hear you got some stuff here to show.

• 1:09Speaker 03

  It was actually the president of Russia that decided to declassify this.

• 1:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Who doesn't want this to be out?

• 1:15Speaker 03

  It's bullshit that it's not illegal to do this.

• 1:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I've seen this. We invited him to the podcast.

• 1:19Speaker 03

  Oh, well, if you get him in town, let me know because we're going to come arrest them.

• 1:23Patrick Bet-David?

  That's big. That was just announced like right now?

• 1:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'll show you. It's, um, you can pull it up right now and you should show it to your viewers.

• 1:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you actually ask for them to allow you to go to Area 51 or no?

• 1:32Speaker 03

  We asked. Burleson actually got permission for us to go. Not speculating based on the evidence that I've seen. There's something out there. And based on what I'm seeing is it's not. It does confirm what the Bible talks about of there being other creations.

• 1:47Patrick Bet-David?

  So did anybody call you, tell you, leave Epstein alone?

• 1:51Speaker 03

  I have to be careful because I could get in trouble if I divulge what I've been shown in a skit.

• 1:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Really? Why?

• 1:58Speaker 03

  Like, I'm not the person that usually starts fights. I finish them.

• 2:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright.

• 2:11Speaker 04

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right here.

• 2:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 2:16Speaker 04

  My send drive, man.

• 2:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 2:23Patrick Bet-David?

  WWE for politics or something like that. I'm hiring Katie Porter.

• 2:27Speaker 03

  Drafted.

• 2:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I am a big fan for Katie Porter. Anyways, it's great to finally have you on.

• 2:30Speaker 03

  Nice to see you too. Thank you for having me.

• 2:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, so this is thanks to the shutdown, if I'm not mistaken, right? The government shutdown that we have here. And I hear you got some stuff here to show. Is that true?

• 2:41Speaker 03

  I do, yeah. So I actually just received these last week. So I went to Charlie Kirk's memorial in DC at the White House. And these files have been months in the making. So a lot of people were like, is this just happening right now because of the Trump, Putin, Budapest talks? But what people don't realize is right as soon as I got the task force, I connected with an individual by the name of Jefferson Morley. So he would be a subject matter expert on the Kennedy assassination. And he made me aware of these documents as well as a witness that we had in our testimony. So I basically was like, I'm gonna try to get these documents. In the 90s, Congress had tried to obtain them and ultimately failed. The Russian government denied access to them.

• 3:24Speaker 03

  And so I picked up the phone and called my staff, told them to get a meeting set up with the ambassador to Russia. And it's crazy, when you pick up the phone, you ask for things, we ended up getting those files and they'd been promised around the fall/winter timeframe and they did deliver on that, so.

• 3:36Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the whole story about the old USSR and JFK.

• 3:40Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 3:40Patrick Bet-David?

  So what have you learned from it so far?

• 3:43Speaker 03

  Well, so there's about 380 pages. And so we did our rough translation through ChatGPT. But the thing is, is that there's a lot that, as you know, I mean, I assume you're bilingual. There's a lot that can be lost in translation. And so we have experts that are going through it right now to get even just the smallest inclinations that we might have missed. But ultimately, it's actually confirming a lot of.

• 4:15Speaker 03

  What we already knew and kind of filling in the mosaic that's been created by these declassified files. A lot of people are like, why do you care so much about going back and rehashing or opening up the Kennedy files? And thing is, is that up until really President Trump took office and then did the final executive order, and up until the CIA followed through with it, which we know for 60 years the CIA hadn't until Director Radcliffe, ultimately, the people didn't actually know what happened. So the American people had this feeling that the government was lying to them. And I would say that if you're looking at historically, kind of the way and really where the distrust starts in this country, it's when Kennedy is assassinated. Shortly thereafter, you have the assassination of Dr. King and then of RFK. And the thing is, is that what we know now for a fact is

• 4:59Speaker 03

  that the CIA did intentionally lie to Congress, did intentionally trying to stop the investigations or prevent evidence from coming out. The Warren Commission-

• 5:08Patrick Bet-David?

  This was previous to this.

• 5:09Speaker 03

  This is previous to this, and I'll tell you, yeah, but you have to know the backstory to kind of notes and files. So what we also know is that the Warren Commission, which was set up by Congress to actually investigate and provide the American people transparency, actually, in my opinion, was a sham committee, and they're pushing a narrative to kind of wrap this up nicely, put it away and not talk about it anymore. And that's because, in my opinion, the US government was implicated in the assassination of Kennedy. We have witness testimony that proves Kennedy was shot from both the front and behind, meaning that there were multiple shooters. Also, the fact that you actually have documentation from an individual by the name of George Joni Ds at the CIA declassified that proved that he had lied to Congress, he was actually embedded as a liaison to the CIA. So there's

• 5:50Speaker 03

  a lot there that implicates potentially a small faction within the CIA operating rogue and responsible for the assassination. So what this does is it fills in the questions that we had in this mosaic of, well, what was the Soviets' perspective? And what we found out is that people knew that Kennedy did not want war, right? He was doing everything that he could to prevent a nuclear arms exchange. But what a lot of people don't know is how close he was to the then Soviet president. And so after the assassination took place, the president ultimately decided to do his own investigation to really see what happened and presented- These findings to the US government at the funeral for Kennedy. And we never got those declassified files because I believe that whoever got those documents

• 6:34Speaker 03

  destroyed them. And so ultimately, when they transferred over these files, a lot of them contained wires directly from the embassy to Moscow, talking about what was happening. They were scared to pieces that the United States was going to use this as a means of essentially starting a kinetic fight with Russia, which, thank goodness, they didn't. However, it's interesting because this is being declassified now, of which we didn't have any idea that the Putin-Trump talks would be happening, or Budapest or any of that. But it's interesting because Trump, in a way, is continuing and almost finalizing Kennedy's legacy for peace. And you see that because everything that he's saying right now with not wanting to escalate the war between Russia and Ukraine, continuously calling for those talks for the first time

• 7:17Speaker 03

  since the 90s, really being a president that's picking up the phone and trying to engage in open dialogue, and potentially even talking about a trade deal with Russia. And that's really ultimately what Kennedy was also doing. So it's very interesting that this is coming out at this point in time, but there's going to be articles dropping soon on this.

• 7:31Patrick Bet-David?

  There's going to be an article dropping soon on this. So is this, is this, do we, do we have a clue or an idea of who it was that got this, that got rid of it? Is there any speculation on who could have been?

• 7:42Speaker 03

  So what I was told by the ambassador, and by the way, you should just like, take a look at these. So these are not the translated, that's directly as I got them from the embassy. And there's only two other copies that exist. One was given to Representative Burleson, and one was given to Representative Ogles as a thank you for being one of the first three members of Congress to meet with the Russians since the 90s. So I put together the meeting. But just to put in perspective, and I'll answer your question in a second, Congress is so broken that our first and foremost job should be continuing open dialogue with people to avoid war, right? And since the 90s, they have not really had much interaction with members of Congress. And then we can get into like, the 2016 Russia collusion and how that really fractured foreign policy. But the point is, is that all of that to say that, you know, regarding who potentially

• 8:25Speaker 03

  would have pulled the trigger, whatever it might have been. What this shows is, I believe, you know, a potential of a relationship that could have existed, like, check out that photo for a second that you just scrolled past. So that was supposed to be a bridge going into Russia. And of course, Kirill Dmitriev, who's a special envoy to President Putin. I'm going to be meeting with him and he had actually posted about this. But the reason I'm doing that is because again, our job should be first and foremost to advocate for peace.

• 8:57Patrick Bet-David?

  That's unbelievable.

• 8:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, so this is.

• 8:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So bridge, that's the picture right there, right? Between Alaska and Russia.

• 9:03Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 9:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Which by the way, I think I've heard Trump bring this up recently.

• 9:06Speaker 03

  It was brought up. It was a question that was brought up, I think in the Oval, they asked him about it. And I think the question was would Elon Musk use Boring Company to do a tunnel? Which I think that if there's the potential for trade, you're talking about a multi-trillion dollar trade deal. I think that one of the few companies actually currently sells in Russia is the Mars company. But we're talking about the ability to really decouple Russia from China. When there's no reason that we need to be enemies with these people. The Cold War has been over, but I think really since Kennedy was assassinated, this boogeyman was created about Russia. And then ultimately, after really Bill Clinton got out and Bush, you see Obama didn't really have a great relationship.

• 9:49Speaker 03

  And then we saw the 2016 Russia collusion hoax that ultimately permanently, I believe fractured foreign policy with Russia. Because you still have half of Americans believing that Russia interfered in the election. Not to say that we shouldn't, you know, always be cautious, but at the end of the day, why would you be trying to alienate a superpower? When in actuality, we can be, you know, opening up trade to them.

• 10:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Didn't Kissinger said like to, to, we have to, it's gotta be two against one. Like we have to have one of them be the enemy of the other one. So Russia or China, pick and choose one of them. It can't be them two against us. Or all three on the same page. I think that's something that Kissinger said many years ago.

• 10:25Speaker 03

  I haven't heard that, but if he did, I mean, I would personally say that right now, we have a lot of issues at home. I would prefer not to be enemies with anyone, but I do also see the flip side where, you know, you have countries like China. Who in my opinion, China is a bigger threat to the United States than Russia is. China engages and bought farms or brainwashing our youth. You saw what happened with TikTok, the private data mining. I mean, I would not be surprised if they had different programs to track people's potential to potentially eliminate those people in the future. If they think that they're going to be a threat to the rise of China. I mean, I think it's definitely. Problem and then we're seeing the foreign funding tie where China's actively engaging in the civil unrest in this country and we actually tracked that down to I called them the team we riots but those ICE riots that you saw happening where these people were

• 11:07Speaker 03

  walking out with these brand new you know unfolded Mexican flags well why was it not a Honduran flag or you know why is it specifically Mexico it's because the largest voting minority in this country right now starting in 2016 onward is Hispanic Americans of Mexican descent so they tried to take that one issue instead of the George Floyd riots of you know the previous presidential President Trump term it's now the ICE riots well they don't really give a crap about these immigrants if they did they wouldn't want the human trafficking and the open borders and the exploitation of corporation and all that but it gets into a very big issue when you have these billionaires that are foreign agents not registered funding these riots that are getting violent and then obviously it goes into even what happened with the armed queers of Salt Lake City

• 11:50Speaker 03

  they were also funded by Neville Singh Ham who is funding these ICE riots and we know that potentially they're being investigated for having connection to the assassination of Charlie Kirk

• 11:58Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a lot to be unpacked there it's a lot of different

• 12:01Speaker 03

  We can go into it

• 12:01Patrick Bet-David?

  And I want to I really want to but by the way for the audience I just want to share with them everything here is in Russian okay so this is all Russian written with dates November 23rd you know 1963 November 25th and then it takes stuff to 1999 95 1973 so have you guys already gone through this like have you gotten a summary of what's in it

• 12:24Speaker 03

  I've done a summary loosely on chat GPT and a lot of these are cables so when you actually run it through the program it compresses down a lot more and then there's also some handwritten notes that we knew existed from Jacqueline Kennedy to the President of Russia and then also too from Lee Harvey Oswald which is interesting and a story will be coming out about that note specifically because Lee Harvey Oswald had written the Russian government that his wife had been and I want to be correct in phrasing this but from my understanding he had written the Russian government that his wife had been recruited and approached or attempted to be recruited by the FBI and we know historically that the FBI and the CIA had always denied having connection to Lee Harvey Oswald

• 13:07Speaker 03

  But we see that that wasn't necessarily the case. And so if you want to really ask me about Lee Harvey Oswald, I mean, even in what I've looked through in the translations, they thought that Lee Harvey Oswald was not mentally stable or capable of carrying out the assassination in the way that they had painted him out to be. I think it's very possible that Lee Harvey Oswald was a patsy and that he was framed. And I think that he was murdered because of that framing.

• 13:32Patrick Bet-David?

  So to get that, to get your, by the way, you continue here, there's letters to other people, there's a caller, I'm trying to see who this caller person is.

• 13:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's, I mean, it's a fascinating, we actually uploaded these directly and then I got chirped at. They're like, how do you know that this isn't Russian disinformation? And I was like, well, that's where we have our experts who are both, you know, Democrats and Republicans looking through this. And we actually reached out to a few outlets because there is a NSC advisor to Clinton that actually went through and he's like, no, this is, these are legitimate documents. These are not, you know, propaganda. And really what it's showing us is that there was open dialogue for peace. They did not want war and ultimately Russia was afraid of being blamed for the assassination. And then even in Russians, Russia's own findings, they actually say that it was likely intelligence, American intelligence that led to the assassination of Kennedy, in addition to right wing. And

• 14:22Speaker 03

  if you think about right wing back then, it was that block that was, you know, pushing the anti communism, which granted communism not good, but if you think about the situation, yeah, the McCarthyism. If you think about the position that Kennedy was in, Kennedy was really considered a progressive in the sense that everyone surrounding him wanted war. Every, you know, right after he was assassinated, LBJ went right into Vietnam. He didn't want that. He didn't want to go to war with Russia, but he was also greatly outnumbered within his own cabinet. And in the sense that he had no allies, I think that he was easy to pick off.

• 14:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't trust Lyndon Johnson for nothing.

• 15:00Speaker 03

  Oh, no, he was like the one that benefited the most.

• 15:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, benefited the most. And the more and more you read about the guy, the guy was a full on scumbag.

• 15:06Speaker 03

  He was a dirty guy.

• 15:07Patrick Bet-David?

  He was a dirty guy when you hear, and, you know, the benefiting all that others, how quickly he's like, yes. Jackie's looking like, what are we doing? Yeah, we gotta move, we gotta move. I'm the president now and it was, they couldn't stand the whole Catholic, all the stuff that was going on at that time. They were worried that the Kennedy family was gonna be running it for many years. And by the way, as a case study, the Kennedy last name and the Trump, that's a very close case study.

• 15:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're like both political dynasties.

• 15:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Both political dynasties. Trump's kids are young, Eric, Ivanka, you got Don and you got Barron. This could be a-

• 15:42Speaker 03

  And Barron's too, that guy's like-

• 15:45Patrick Bet-David?

  He's one of a kind.

• 15:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's already doing pretty good for himself.

• 15:48Patrick Bet-David?

  He's funny, he's witty, he's intense. It's funny because I had Eric Trump on and there's a clip where Barron at the inauguration walks up to Biden and he says, whispers something in his ears and everybody thinks he says, "It's on" or something like that, right? And Eric says, "Man, let me check with Barron to see what it says." And apparently he says, "It's an honor." He didn't say, "It's on." And Eric says-

• 16:12Speaker 03

  He's a very well-raised kid.

• 16:13Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a very well-raised kid, I agree. So, let's go back to this. So, you hear the stories, John F. Kennedy wants to de-nuclearize, you know, us and Russia.

• 16:22Speaker 03

  He wants to avoid a full-fledged arms exchange, yeah.

• 16:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Full-fledged arm exchange, right? Who doesn't want that? Is that the military-industrial complex? Is that also what it was that Eisenhower kept referring to?

• 16:34Speaker 03

  Are you saying back then or now?

• 16:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Back then.

• 16:36Speaker 03

  Okay, so back then, I would have to say it was the military-industrial complex, also factions of the intelligence community that genuinely believed that Kennedy was likely a communist sympathizer because he was openly engaging in these dialogues. What's interesting is, when you're looking about, I think, like the main differences now, and the reason I keep contrasting is because there's striking similarities now to back then, but it's almost like history is correcting itself for the wrongdoings of the past. You actually have this aspect of social media that's been able to almost innoculately against the massive smear campaigns from the military-industrial complex versus back then, you know, when

• 17:19Speaker 03

  people did stand up against us, the first thing that they had to fear was the printing press. Well, we all know now that, you know, even the Washington Post back then was a mouthpiece for the CIA, probably still is. But because it didn't have social media, you really were at the- Almost, you know, mercy of these intelligence agencies if you did not go along with what they wanted.

• 17:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Back then.

• 17:40Speaker 03

  Back then.

• 17:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so this, you got, who doesn't want this to be out?

• 17:45Speaker 03

  Um, I think a lot of people were hesitant of it. Um, and rightfully, rightfully, I think, you know, questioning about the timing, but a lot of people are like, well, how did you manage, you know, we've been trying to get this for years, like, how all of a sudden did you go in and just grab this? Well, it's called, I picked up the phone and I asked for them. And I met in person and I think there's a lot, you know, I can now understand how world wars start. Because I've worked with some of these old walruses in Washington. And sometimes they don't want to talk to each other or it's a pride thing and I am a lot younger than the Cold War is. And so I was able to pick up the phone and talk to the ambassador and he met with me and it was actually the president of Russia that decided to declassify this.

• 18:29Speaker 03

  Um, and it's an attempt also to provide transparency with what President Trump did with his executive order.

• 18:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's play devil's advocate. So if we play devil's advocate on on, on how they would manipulate this and maybe they make it up and they mix it up in their own way. And not release a hundred percent the information to you. Let's just say they're trying to do something like that. Who, who would they want to make the enemy to create a division in America? Because I don't know if I wake up in the morning, especially right now with everything's going on. I mean, just last night, you got the drone attacks 18 hours ago, 19 hours ago. I don't know if you saw the clips or not.

• 19:05Speaker 03

  Oh, in Kyiv.

• 19:06Patrick Bet-David?

  In Kyiv, right. So, you know, Russia, Ukraine, the video's just released. Rob, I texted you, wanted the clips if you want to pull it up. CNN just posted, it's all over the place. And then you hear President Trump putting the sanctions, increasing sanctions. Then giving long range missiles, not the tomahawks, but the long range, not giving, but allowing Ukraine to use the, this is, uh, this is just yesterday, Rob.

• 19:27Speaker 03

  I think, um, he actually put out a Truth Social tweet and actually put it on my social. So he, to my understanding, said that that was fake news, the Washington Post, about the long range missile stuff. Um, so I would just confirm.

• 19:38Patrick Bet-David?

  He said that, he said that it's not. Okay, can you pull that up, Rob? That's that's good because two days ago, they said that he did. So Trump.

• 19:45Speaker 03

  It was around the same time because he, in the same, you know, press conference had talked about, you know, why Budapest was off. And he also said, I don't think that we're going, we're at where we need to be at in regards to, you know, either ceasefire or peace deal. Um, but then he also too, at the same time had, you know, stated that they're going to increase sanctions.

• 20:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Wall Street Journal story on USA approval of Ukraine being allowed to use the long-range missiles deep into Russia's fake news. The US has nothing to do with these missiles, wherever they may come from, or what Ukraine does with them. So he, so then where would they get it from?

• 20:19Speaker 03

  Probably from NATO. So NATO is funding the Ukrainian government right now in regards to the munitions that they're getting. And this gets really complicated. So I actually went to the EU and I met with the European Union, which by the way, interesting story there. I was on a delegation and there's a lot of countries that they have really crappy economies and they're pushing for this war, ironically enough. You know why they're doing that.

• 20:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 20:46Speaker 03

  But then there's also representatives that are more conservative leaning in the EU that want nothing to do with, you know, war with Ukraine. And it's interesting because I even went to Romania. I went with the president there. I met with their parliament. I went to Moldova. I met with their president, their parliament. No one wants war that's having to deal with this on their doorstep. It's only the countries that are like hundreds or thousands of miles away that are like, heck yeah, let's continue this. Zelensky, I think, is, you know, he's not doing right by his own people. He hasn't held elections since the war started. We had elections during our civil war. You're telling me that you can't hold elections? I think that he doesn't want to take a loss and so he's looking at peace as a loss, but I think that that's terrible leadership because you should look at peace as a win,

• 21:31Speaker 03

  especially when you've had that many people that have died.

• 21:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, I don't trust him at all, but President Trump seems to be in the middle right now, trying to figure this thing out, the peace deal. And this one seems to be complicated. I think after, Rob, can you pull up the call that they had? After the two-hour call, I think, the President Trump had, President Trump got upset yesterday. Something happened with the sanctions. Can you pull up the sanction story? That I think literally just happened. So it seems like he's in a middle and neither one of the sides.

• 22:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's not wanting this to escalate because I think he shares the same sentiment that many of the American people do and that we need to index war and that this can't continue. And also too, I think that there's this aspect of, you know, he realized, you know, President Trump, yes, he's a president, but also remember he's a dad. He has a lot of kids, he has a lot of grandkids, and he's seeing how many people are dying. And I think that when you're in a position of power, especially at his level, you have to weigh the decisions that you're making. And he understands that ultimately, when you die, you have to answer for those decisions. And so he wants to be, I think rightfully so, known as the peace president. I think that that's why he's been able to accomplish eight of those peace deals. And I think that they'll be number nine soon.

• 22:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I believe, I believe as well, but I think in this point, he's in a middle and, you know, Russia's Putin's probably like, wait a minute, why are you allowing them? Are you giving along Ray Mitchells? No, I didn't. NATO, are you doing this? And then Zelensky is like, well, I thought they're not going to do this. Why are they attacking us? And, and I'm assuming there's calls taking place. Why, I thought you're not going to do this. What are you doing? If you do this, I'm going to give you sanctions. I had to do. You don't understand. Why are you taking their side? I'm assuming he's in the middle of this, trying to get the two to get along.

• 23:08Speaker 03

  That, and also too, he does have a commanding presence in NATO. But NATO, again, has been pushing for this. And they have this same Cold War era perspective, when in actuality they shouldn't. Kudos to the president of Hungary. He's been the one saying like, hey, you know, the EU, NATO needs to chill out. And that's why he agreed to host the peace summit, which is, I think, they'll wait till they for sure have a deal to then go meet. And so a lot of people are like, oh, he's backing out because, you know, he's going to back you. That's not what he's doing. President Trump is probably the best negotiator. And it's funny seeing a lot of people speculate. But you can actually hear everything that he's saying. He does not want to escalate it. He wants Putin to stop striking Kiev and wants to index the war in Ukraine. But he also understands that, you know, Zelensky's asking for Tomahawk missiles. I'll tell you, I actually did meet, because I usually like

• 23:53Speaker 03

  to listen both sides of the argument. So I actually went to Poland and I met with the Ukrainian parliament when I first got elected. And I was absolutely disgusted by how some of the members. Expected Americans to be funding that war, but then also to what I was told, what they were going to do with the weapons that we were giving them after the war. And it was funny because I was one of the very vocal supporters against the Ukraine war and funding for early on before it was considered politically cool. And I had reporters that would reach out to me all the time trying to trash me on my position, saying that I was, you know, going to be responsible for, you know, Russia rolling into Poland and taking over Europe. And I would tell them this story. So I was actually told, and it wasn't just me, it was other members of our delegation

• 24:38Speaker 03

  that were with us, and it was a bipartisan delegation, that they're going to take the munitions that we were giving them, and they're essentially going to start a private mercenary army similar to the Wagner Group. I don't think that's what we should be funding. Sorry, I just don't. And so I would tell these reporters and they wouldn't print it. And so they eventually stopped asking me about it. And then as this war is continuing, you're seeing actually war fatigue happen. A majority of Americans are like, okay, like this needs to index. But you still hear people, even people in Washington that have this mentality and perspective that we need to continue that war. And I kept noticing not one member of Congress was reaching out to help support the president's positions for peace talks to the Russian government. They're all going to take selfies with Zelensky, they're all going to Ukraine.

• 25:21Speaker 03

  Not one member, until I picked up the phone, coincidentally enough, talking about this. And then I was like, you know what? There has to be a counterweight to all of this argument, like to actually open up and show that there is actually a demographic of Americans that want peace and don't necessarily like buy into this whole mindset. I'm also not on housearm services, I'm also not funded by the defense industry, so there's that too.

• 25:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so this is the clip, by the way. If you want to play that, this is the drone that happened 17 hours ago. Go ahead, Rob. That's in Kiev, so. Russia launches large-scale airstrike. Yeah. But by the way, Ukraine is the true drone expert. They've launched, I think, half a million. The way they build them as quickly as they do, I think some 60% of drones are produced in Ukraine at the pace that they're going. And then just 15 minutes ago, if you want to go to the one of 15 minutes ago, Rob, of what happened with China pausing state oil major suspends Russian oil buys due to sanctions, sources say this is... 15 minutes ago with the sanctions that the president put on the... So let me ask you,

• 26:23Patrick Bet-David?

  when you ask for this, how much after you ask, how much longer after you ask for it, did you get it from the president?

• 26:30Speaker 03

  So I asked for it when I first got the task force after our first hearing. So that must have been at least over six months ago, but even then, I actually had talked about it on Chris Cuomo. And I'm glad that I did because a lot of people were like, oh, this is, you know, Russian propaganda. And I was like, what, for peace? Like, I don't know about that. And they told me that I would be receiving it around fall, Christmas timeframe, and they delivered.

• 26:54Patrick Bet-David?

  So six months?

• 26:55Speaker 03

  About, a little bit more.

• 26:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Ish, to get it, okay. So have you already seen anything in it that would be disruptive if released?

• 27:03Speaker 03

  No. And actually, I already posted it publicly, so people can go through. We're all adults, you can decide.

• 27:08Patrick Bet-David?

  All of it, all of it is public already?

• 27:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, and it's interesting, people are like, well, what if this is Russian propaganda? I said, well, first of all, either which way, people are exposed to foreign propaganda all the time online. Like, if you don't think that there's something called...

• 27:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Go make up your mind, and make up...

• 27:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, make up your mind, use, I know critical thinking is lacking these days, but use critical thinking. But also, too, the experts that have gone through it, who are subject matter experts on the Kennedy, if it's false, there will be holes. But there could be nothing more damaging than what our own government has released in declassifying the files, saying that our CIA lied to Congress, covered up evidence, that the Warren Commission was threatening witnesses, that there were multiple shooters. I mean, how much more damaging can that be? I just, I think people that make that argument are afraid of maybe, and it's cognitive dissonance, I think, sometimes, but you should look at both sides and decide for yourself. I'm not telling what you think, but what I am telling you is, I would much rather have

• 28:03Speaker 03

  a world where we're not killing each other, and all economically benefiting than, than the latter.

• 28:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, when you said 19, right after the assassination, previous to that, the mainstream media had the highest level of trust from the American people. 74% of the number was, 73, 74%. It's at the lowest ever. I think it's like 24, 26% today, Rob, if you want to zoom in.

• 28:26Speaker 03

  Well, it's gotten, it's gotten worse as what happened. In 2016, we know now with the declassified Russia gate documents. But it's sad because a lot of people have cognitive dissonance to where they're so programmed that even when you show them the truth with the facts, they just don't believe it. And that's really the fault, 100%. The media's to blame, yes, but it's really the fault of those politicians that chose to do that. When I first got elected, I actually went after Adam Schiff and tried to censure him. I was told by our own House leadership at the time that what I was doing was unconstitutional, it couldn't be done, yet I had read through the rule manual twice, and so I knew they were lying to me. And so I did it anyways. And initially, I also knew that I could find Adam Schiff, or the House of Representatives

• 29:10Speaker 03

  could find him a fraction of what he cost the American taxpayer dollars, which was $32 million with the Russia hoax stuff. That was the estimated sum that it cost. And so that could have been paid by his campaign. That didn't have to be paid personally, wouldn't dock his wages. But you even had people that were trying to say it was unconstitutional. And in actuality, it wasn't, but they didn't even want to go to fight that. The fact is, is that they wanted to let him off. So when the American people found out that there were Republican members of Congress actually going to protect Schiff for what he did, they were pissed, and so they started phoning their phone lines, and those representatives ultimately ended up voting to censure him. But he was one of the worst.

• 29:47Patrick Bet-David?

  He was one of the worst. He says, I know for a fact. I mean, he says, when he came out, I don't know who he was on, whether it was Maddow or Cuomo or whoever it was on. It's like, nope, we have, what's the word he used?

• 29:59Speaker 03

  Evidence. They had evidence. And he was doing that as the Chair of Intelligence Community.

• 30:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Unbelievable.

• 30:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, so a censure is a lot more than just a word. I mean, it's literally you're bringing dishonor on the House of Representatives, and there can be punitive action. But what's interesting about that, too, is the backstory was, is I wasn't successful the first time. Mind you, I was about eight months pregnant. I was about to pop. I had a busted foot, so I was rolling around. So I really looked kind of helpless when I was in DC. So I'm rolling around the Capitol, and I'm coming off the floor after the first foot had failed. And he's out there with Forbes Magazine, the Wall Street Journal. They're like, Mr. Schiff, how do you feel? You've been exonerated. You're not going to be censured. He's like, well, these MAGA extremists. And I told him point blank, I rolled up to him with my busted foot and big old belly. And I was like, I'm gonna, you know, I might have not gotten you this time, but I'm gonna get you next week.

• 30:47Speaker 03

  And I'm refiling on Monday and then I rolled away and then I centered him the following week. And it was funny because to this day, the only other action I had with Adam Schiff was he was coming to the presidential address when Trump got elected. And he walked through the House chamber and I was sitting right on the edge, waiting for the president. He was right there and I was like, how are you doing it, Adam? And he goes, fine, how are you? And I said, you know, like I basically got you. And I was like, you're gonna go down in history as a documented liar. And I told him this and Tim Burchett was sitting right next to me and he goes, well, I'll go down in history, but so will you. And I said, but for different things. And so that was kind of our exchange. This was on the evening of the president's first address to Congress. And so like, those are the conversations that you don't hear about and the behind the scenes.

• 31:30Speaker 03

  But the fact is, is that if you can lie like that, you know, he's not, he's not.

• 31:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Good for you for addressing this guy. I mean, there's a lot of words you can use for him. By the way, who, who else is as dark as he is? Is he one of the darkest guys?

• 31:43Speaker 03

  He's pretty bad. There's a, there's a couple on our own side too, that are pretty bad, but he's probably one of the worst. And I'd say he's one of the worst because if you look at what he did, you know, how many people don't talk to family members? Because of what he pushed, right? Him, Obama, Hillary Clinton. How many people like have cut off friends, all of that? I mean, like, if you think about the fracture, but then also there's this aspect of foreign policy. Literally responsible for potentially starting a war with Russia over that. Like, that's just insane. That's your sociopath.

• 32:17Patrick Bet-David?

  But now some people, so here's the, here's the reason why you have a big fan base in this building. You know, people, people lost it when he came in here. They're coming, oh, my God, I just met her. They're gonna be lining up afterwards to take pictures with you going around on the scooter of my, they're telling me you're.

• 32:33Speaker 03

  I was riding the scooter, the scooter was cool.

• 32:35Patrick Bet-David?

  My daughter's scooter and all this stuff. She's also so cool and she's chill, she's awesome. But I think, I think the reason why people were excited about you when you, when you first came in is you said something. You said something recently, you said the benefit of being young. You know, you want to be a statesman and you said you don't want to be in it for long. You said in about 10 years, I'm going to be out. I think you may have said it on Joe.

• 32:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know where it was when he said it, but you said this recently.

• 32:58Speaker 03

  That's not a long-term thing for me.

• 32:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so it's not a long-term thing you want to do. But when you came in, you said, look, here's what we're going to be doing. Uh, over, you know, you were the oversight, I think you,

• 33:06Speaker 03

  I'm on oversight still, yeah.

• 33:07Patrick Bet-David?

  On the Oversight Committee, so you got MLK, RFK, JFK, Epstein, UAP. You know, what else did you add to that list? 9/11, everything that you came up.

• 33:16Speaker 03

  All the things we all have questions about.

• 33:17Patrick Bet-David?

  All the things we have questions about, right? When you made that, is this it, Rob? Or go ahead, play this clip.

• 33:22Speaker 03

  It is a profound honor that I have been entrusted by Speaker Mike Johnson and Chairman James Comer to lead the House Force, or at the House Oversight Task Force on Declassification of Federal Secrets. Together with the help of the White House, our intelligence allies, the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice, we will be conducting investigations into the following: the assassinations of JFK, RFK, and Dr. Martin Luther King, unidentified aerial phenomena, also known as UAPs, and I've identified submerged objects, also known as USOs, the Epstein client list, the origins of COVID-19, and the 9/11 files.

• 34:00Patrick Bet-David?

  If you were to rank top three on which ones you've made the most progress on, which ones would they be?

• 34:06Speaker 03

  Um, definitely JFK, uh, definitely UAP, and I'd have to say the other ones are still flushing out. The Jeffrey Epstein stuff, obviously, is still coming. What's interesting about that is I actually attended a witness testimony to the Oversight Committee. So it was Democrats, Republicans, the Speaker of the House was there. And we have to be careful about how we engage specifically with the witnesses right now because they have open, they have like an open lawsuit right now with one of the banks that they're suing. And so as members, there's certain congressional ethics where you can't be seen to tip the scales on investigations. And we were actually told, because at that point in time, um, I had asked a specific question about if they knew if intelligence agencies

• 34:51Speaker 03

  were involved and/or what foreign countries were involved. And I actually did a posting about that on my Twitter, if you want to pull it up and read it. Um, and then all Also too, if you just type in my Twitter on my RepLuna account and then Epstein and then foreign intelligence, it might pop up on the search. And then also too, there was another question about if they could name names for people that were potentially being hidden from the American people so that we could subpoena them. And at that point in time, their lead attorney did answer for them and they said that they'd be compiling a list and that they would get it to us. But I actually inquired recently and we haven't gotten the list yet. So I think that there's a lot to unpack there. But what's also interesting

• 35:32Speaker 03

  specifically pertaining to this is that back in, I think it was like November of last year, I was dragging the Senator of Illinois that blocked Marsha's Blackburn's request for the Epstein flight log release. And then when I got elected, I was really, really hammering the DOJ. And then we caught wind-

• 35:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You say Pam Bondi, where you're coming out and say, hey-

• 35:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was, I was the only member of Congress doing it.

• 35:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I remember that, I remember, yeah.

• 35:54Speaker 03

  I was the only member. And what was interesting is-

• 35:56Patrick Bet-David?

  And it's a tough position to take for you to do that because everybody was, so that, that's where you're, you gain because some of the audience like, who's actually working on getting to the bottom of this?

• 36:06Speaker 03

  Well, I was, I was the only member of Congress doing it. And so I'm, and I'm gonna get into how this has become politicized, which I don't agree with, right? And we'll get into that in a second. But I was the only member of Congress that was like going out there and doing this. And then in around end of February, March time, timeframe, I actually became aware of a whistleblower who came forward that had alleged that there was destruction of evidence or under the former Deputy Director of the FBI as Trump was coming into office of information pertaining to Jeffrey Epstein and other classified materials. We got the name of the person that was doing it and where it was potentially happening. And I went public with it. I actually filed legislation for the shred act that would actually increase the mandatory minimums for-

• 36:51Speaker 03

  federal officials that were destroying evidence and you can actually pull this up and pull up the Fox News article and it actually goes into all of that. Yeah, yep. And look at the time date on that. That's March 14th. So it's all of the stuff that I've done, I've been able to timestamp it and actually provide receipts to people because as soon as I announced this task force, people were like, oh, you're gonna, you're, you're a part of the cover up. You know, you have declassification authority. I actually don't. The declassification authority specifically on this relies with the Department of Justice. But then it's so much deeper than that. So I actually had reported this directly to the FBI at the time and they also let up on it. And then you saw recently that they actually, I think, had gone after some people for destroying some

• 37:32Speaker 03

  evidence and they found Russia documents, Russiagate documents in bags, burn bags. Do you remember hearing that story? So that was, I think, in connection to this as well. Because they were talking about destroying other evidence. But then all of a sudden, it was like a switch happened and I don't think that the DOJ handled the rollout of the Epstein stuff as well as they should have, period. Right? Like, I would have done it differently. Nonetheless, though, what I don't like is how then it was used to try to smear the president and imply that he was somehow a, you know, molester and a part of this, you know, Jeffrey Epstein crime syndicate, which is not true. The victims themselves have denied that. But you see these press conferences with

• 38:17Speaker 03

  people holding signs that say Trump is, you know, a pedophile and all this other stuff. And that in itself is what I don't like about how the politicization of you taking victims who do deserve justice, and then they're using it for their own political game. You know, this could have been declassified under Biden. They wouldn't even touch it.

• 38:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You're right. And by the way, my argument to that, when people say stuff like that, it's like, look, you, you think if they had anything on Trump, they would have let him run in 2024 as aggressively as they would have destroyed him for him to be done and never be able to get reelected to get in there.

• 38:49Speaker 03

  2016 wouldn't have happened.

• 38:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And not only that, he wouldn't be as aggressive and offensive if that was going on. You know, he wouldn't be coming out. And so I don't think that's at all the case. For me, it's a completely different angle. I'm going with this because I remember when you said this, July 24, the deep state is stonewalling us on Epstein files. But we're breaking through new locks, come in, follow the money. This is you on Twitter, I believe, and then it continues. September 5th, new Epstein files confirmed an intelligence connection Saudi, Russia, Israel. The end goal is justice for survivors. So this is-

• 39:24Speaker 03

  And that was directly related to us from the victims.

• 39:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, that's from a month ago. And then this week, you know, we see the letters of Leon Black. Uh, uh, the email exchange, I'm sure you saw that one.

• 39:33Speaker 03

  I haven't.

• 39:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you gotta see this. So Leon Black-

• 39:35Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 39:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Who, uh, uh, I'm sure you know who Leon Black is. Leon Black is, well, maybe go to the story first, Rob. So we know Leon Black is a guy that paid Epstein in consulting fees $170 million.

• 39:51Speaker 03

  That's a lot of money.

• 39:52Patrick Bet-David?

  In consult, I've never heard of that before, in consulting fees.

• 39:55Speaker 03

  What is, what was he consulting for?

• 39:56Patrick Bet-David?

  That's exactly it. So when you, when you break it down, Rob, if you just kind of put, type in $170 million, is that the one, so the, Mr. Epstein, uh, Hector, Mr. Black, multiple time for $10 million, beyond $150 million, he had already paid. So for a total of $170 million that Leon Black paid to Epstein in consulting fees, well, he was helping me out with estate planning and he was helping him with tax-

• 40:20Speaker 03

  A lot of estate planning and taxes.

• 40:21Patrick Bet-David?

  A lot of estate planning. And then the email exchange comes out, right there. Leon Black, Jeffrey, paid Jeffrey Epstein $170 million for consulting services primarily related to tax and estate planning between 2012 and 2017. This was discovered during an investigation into the financial relationship, which began after Epstein's 2019 arrest. These, uh, the extraordinary size of these fees, which vastly exceed what Black paid other advisors, has drawn significant criticism. So then we see these emails. Rob, if you want to show the emails. So the first one, if you, uh, is this one. And this is from Epstein to Black. I never want to have any more uncomfortable money moments with you. I find it very distasteful. So to be clear, my terms are as follows.

• 41:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I will only work for the usual 40 million a year. It needs to be paid 25 million upon signing an agreement. 5 million every two months thereafter for six months, March, May, June. This can begin if I'm able in January. I will immediately stop work if the payment is not received. And if you want to go to the next one. At least for a few weeks, I am unable to commit much time and make any future plans to guide you in the redoing of your procrastination produced mess. That being said, the tasks at hand are the following. You have a bomb of color strings that your retarded children have formed. It has to be very carefully unwound.

• 41:45Speaker 03

  What does that even mean?

• 41:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I don't know if you've seen the letter between the two that he wrote to.

• 41:50Speaker 03

  No.

• 41:51Patrick Bet-David?

  This Leon Black character relationship with Epstein is extremely weird and concerning, to say the least. There's a letter he wrote to him.

• 42:01Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, Les Wexner has been an interesting character.

• 42:04Patrick Bet-David?

  He's another one. Les Wexner, Lex Wexner, he's the one that gifted him the largest private residence in New York. I want to say it's 50 something thousand square feet. Seventy-seven million dollar property that they just gifted to Epstein. Here's a gift. I'm sure you've got a lot of nice gifts in your life.

• 42:22Speaker 03

  Not since I've been elected. No gold bars for Lena.

• 42:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so when you, when you see this kind of stuff, the part that becomes problematic, and by the way, I love, Rob, do you have the letter of Black and I think it's, that's the one right there. You just had it, Rob.

• 42:44Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, right there.

• 42:45Patrick Bet-David?

  You just had it right there. Zoom in a little bit. So this is a letter that apparently he wrote to, Leon Black wrote to Epstein. Go a little bit more. A V F P C. V F P C is a Vanity Fair poster child. It's something to be, a V F P C is something to see. A liver, a lover, a Jeff, a Jeffrey. Let's all give a cheer. For today, he's 50. Five decades, I or half-century, I can't read the, by birds and only by books, Cs and Ms. are his key. Blonde, red or brunette, spread out geographically with his net of fish. Jeff's now, Jeff's now the old man and the sea.

• 43:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Teaching math, trading options, foreign currency, green eye shades, schemes and plans, a unique tax strategy, wet dream, and I can't see the other word, Rob, if you want to say it.

• 43:42Speaker 03

  I can't read it.

• 43:43Speaker 04

  Cocaine, I believe that was a night, another term for nightmare.

• 43:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, nightmare. An architect's wild spree, Moscow, Paris, Santa Fe, Alhambra, East Jamboree.

• 43:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Maxwellian delight, a mother's treasure, great joy, most surely Harvardian patron, brain researcher for extending wannabe outrageous, iconoclastic, unconventional, I'm having a hard time reading this, spirit free.

• 44:10Speaker 03

  Who talks like this? So weird.

• 44:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Who talks like this? Yes. Best of all, a dear friend, happy birthday Jeffrey, loves and kisses.

• 44:17Speaker 03

  And didn't he, what was the outlet that Jeffrey Epstein blackmailed? Was it Vanity Fair?

• 44:23Speaker 03

  I think it was Vanity Fair. I saw that.

• 44:24Speaker 05

  Where he threatened the editor of Vanity Fair who was writing an article about him before any of the sex trafficking stuff came up. And I believe he, the editor found a deceased animal on his property.

• 44:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was like a cat head or something.

• 44:40Speaker 05

  People claimed that that was a warning sign that may have been sent by Jeffrey Epstein to the editor of Vanity Fair.

• 44:44Speaker 03

  So it's interesting you reference Vanity Fair. All that to say, you know, I think that it's very possible, like you said, if there was any wrongdoing, I know this for a fact, they would have released that about the president. He wouldn't be president right now. So he's probably, and I always tell people this, no other politician has been, you know, basically had lawfare waged against him the way that President Trump had. He's like clean as a whistle, this guy. But when you look at what they did prior to Trump getting into office, I mean, I have the timestamp back then that we were notified of destruction of evidence. So evidence tampering, all of that to say that it's very possible that they did do that. But what is without question is that there were many people hurt.

• 45:29Speaker 03

  And when we were in talking with those victims, I mean, every victim, there was one woman that said that she is going through therapy right now because she doesn't remember what was done to her. There's like massive parts of her memory that are completely blocked out. And so she's going through certain, I guess psychotherapy to kind of help flush that out. But also

• 45:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Flush it out or recover it?

• 45:50Speaker 03

  Recover it, like help to kind of like figure out what happened, but also too that they were concerned that there would be, you know, because he had a lot of hard drives and the guy was a weirdo. He's recording everything. That they were concerned that that specifically, they wanted to maintain it and they were, they were denied previous, by previous administrations, access to that information. So they're basically asking for it so that they could help process and recover. But at the same time, too, we are also, in that same hearing, the attorney said that there were people, the victim's attorney said that there were people calling him to like, I don't know if it was to settle or what. So all that to say that this, this is an active legal case in many ways. This is now the purview of House Oversight.

• 46:33Speaker 03

  Chairman Comer is actually using the US Treasury to actually go through some of these bank records and transactions to figure out where the money was coming from. Chairman Comer has been really great about that. You saw the findings that we had with the Ukrainian business dealings, ironically enough, with Hunter Biden and Burisma and all of that other stuff. So I think that there'll be some, something to come of it. The fact is, is that these people should not be getting off the way that they are. And I think, based on what we're being told is, I think that the guy was likely foreign intelligence of some form, definitely gathering information, total pervert, total terrible person. But, you know, the way, I don't know about you, but I don't have many friends that have given me like $50 million mansions.

• 47:18Patrick Bet-David?

  $77 million property as a gift, or 170 million dollar consulting fee?

• 47:25Speaker 03

  It's weird.

• 47:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I've paid a lot of consulting fee over the years. Nobody pays 170 million dollars. The only reason is, so, so to me, and by the way, this is what I love that happened as well. President Trump sues Wall Street Journal for releasing whatever that letter is that he's saying is not accurate for $10 billion. Wall Street Journal's lawyers come to the president just yesterday.

• 47:46Speaker 03

  Are they settling?

• 47:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And ask him to please dismiss it. Trump goes to his lawyers and says, no, no, we're not settling.

• 47:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, he shouldn't. It's slander.

• 47:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Right. Go back and let's get to the bottom of this. So this is probably not a good look for Wall Street Journal. And this just shows that Trump is sitting there saying, hey, if you think this is real. So the market can look at this and say, President Trump's not worried about discovery. Holy shit. So maybe that's not real. This is not a good look for Wall Street Journal that they're coming wanting to dismiss this to be done with. So, but to me, at the same time while this is happening, Michael Wolff, is it Michael Wolff that's suing Melania for billion dollars?

• 48:23Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 48:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Saying the fact that she was threatening to sue. So, Michael Wolff is getting into it. I think he just threatened with a billion dollar suit over Epstein's related claims.

• 48:31Speaker 03

  It's, yeah, because he was trying to say that she was like a honeypot or something like that. The guy's a total, the guy, these people, these journalists that do this and authors, they are the lowest of the lowest scum of the earth. I've had to deal with some of these people in Washington. Terrible people. I had, um, the Daily Beast, I think, do an article that had implied that Trump, the headline was, I think you pull up, uh, Trump offers like GOP upcoming something, his bed. That was like literally the headline.

• 48:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop it.

• 48:58Speaker 03

  I kid you not. Here, you can find it on here and then type in my name, Daily Beast. Like these people, and like, mind you, it wasn't even in context. I was pregnant on the plane. Yeah, look, see, like, look at that headline. Don't tell, this is the headline. And they, and I'm reading this, I'm like, wow, this is crazy. Like, who, who writes this? Come to find out, the, um, reporter had never reached out to our office. And so I addressed it directly. The story was, is that I was about to pop. I shouldn't even have been traveling on a plane, but I wanted to go help President Trump in Iowa. And, and I've been with Trump since 2016. So like, I was like, I'm in office now, he helped me get elected, I'm gonna go help him win. Um, and I was probably like within the window of where you can go into labor when you're traveling.

• 49:41Speaker 03

  So like, you have kids, you know, that's a very scary window. So Trump had actually told me when we got on the plane, my husband was right there. He goes, you know, we have, um, like the medical team here, if anything happens, like, and he was joking too. He's like, if you, if you go into labor on the plane, like, you can name your son, son after me. And I was joking, I was like, you know, I was like, I'll make the deal if that happens, like a hundred, if I give birth on Trump Force One, like it's happening.

• 50:02Patrick Bet-David?

  That would be classic.

• 50:03Speaker 03

  It's happening a hundred percent. But like, he was literally like, and you can read, because they finally updated, because I just nuked them in the press. I'm like, you people, you know, what they did to Melania with this type of headline, this is what they live for, because that's the only way to maintain relevancy. But they're just scum of the earth. They're total scum of the earth. But yeah, read down my response, I, I basically called him out and was like, that's not what happened. Um, and actually after that, if you click show more, I'm showing you the letter that Trump had sent me asking about Henry, my son. It's shortly thereafter, and I actually had posted a handwritten note where he was checking to make sure that the baby was okay after delivery of my son.

• 50:38Patrick Bet-David?

  So was he disappointed that it wasn't Donald, it was Henry? Was he like?

• 50:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, he knew, he knew, he knew I named him after my dad, but.

• 50:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I seldom respond to nasty headlines. I don't give trash credibility, however, being that there's allegedly a book coming out named attacking President, his marriage, or First Lady, frankly implying something distasteful about me, I'm responding, I'm very pregnant. I was very pregnant at the time, experiencing pre-schlepsia, symptoms, but was not diagnosed as soon as President boarded the plane, being the gentleman, the good person he is, he said, if I did not feel I could use a back room, he did, then in a respectful way, in front of my husband, of which we thanked him. He also assured me that they had a medical team. This was the most compassionate thing that we could have. See, this is, this is when they're, they lose so much credibility when, when things like this happen, because your husband's there. If your husband's there, something like this is being said, you look like a clown when they write stories like this.

• 51:29Speaker 03

  Well, he didn't even reach out, so it was an effort to smear the President or to potentially force a wedge between the First Lady and the President. They did this with so many times, and like, to Melania's credit, she's a class act. I mean, she's.

• 51:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think they have the same level of credibility they had. I don't think the market reacts to it the way they did before.

• 51:45Speaker 03

  Back to what you were saying, people don't trust the press because they realize that a lot of these people are not legitimate journalists, they don't care about the truth. And I can tell now that I'm in office, when I see an article in the press, I know instantly when it's a hit piece. I know when the story's been planted, I'm like putting the connections together, and it's sad that I have to do that because I know, because I've been victim of it. I also had this happen to me when I first got elected. I had barely been sworn into office, and I had this reporter calling around from the Washington Post. Actually, this will be interesting, because as a result of this, Time Magazine did their own investigation, realized, surprise, surprise, I was telling the truth, and named me the next 100 most influential in the world. So that was a silver lining. But the Washington Post had.

• 52:29Patrick Bet-David?

  This was when? This is what you were.

• 52:31Speaker 03

  This was in 2022 when I first got elected. So the Washington Post tries to write this hit piece about me, taking everything about my life, like literally my entire life story, and trying to paint me as. What they were basically calling me was a female George Santos. And by the way, George Santos, not a perfect man, but he is by far not the worst we have in Congress. So like, that's a separate conversation. Um, but basically trying to live, yeah, like, look at this. They just like, take my entire background, they say, you know, her embrace of her Hispanic heritage, which we're going to get into that because I'm over 50% you know, Mexican, which is, oh, I'm not Mexican enough. Was Barack Obama not black enough for you either? I mean, like, what are we getting into percentages now? But like, just completely investigate, interviews people.

• 53:09Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but don't forget, Elizabeth Warren is American Indian.

• 53:12Speaker 03

  She's Native American, yeah, she's like 100%, you know.

• 53:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't call it out, you know, it's true.

• 53:17Speaker 03

  But like, literally investigates relatives that I haven't talked to in 15 years, that I have no connection to, like, literally, just to try to like, paint me out. So my mom is getting calls by this journalist, and my mom is an absolute hero. I mean, my mom, single mom, raised me, like, yes, we were on welfare, but like, puts herself through law school. Like, she's just like, an amazing person. But they asked her for proof. If my grandmother died HIV positive, of which my own mom had to provide a death certificate proving that, but they didn't report that in the article. They also didn't report in the article, and I actually had been given screenshots by my old roommates of them saying, hey, I had this reporter reach out, but they're not like, reporting what I told them because it conflicted with the narrative that they're trying to paint about me, that I was making up my background, that I wasn't Hispanic enough, um, that I was lying about my background.

• 54:02Speaker 03

  All this shit that, you know, they go into, by the way, my dad had raised me as a messianic Jew, and then my mom had raised me Catholic. But for those people that can actually do their own research, a messianic Jew is basically someone that believes in Jesus Christ. So like, to say that all of a sudden, I'm like, somewhat making that up is just completely contrary to what the evidence is, that I had lied about my dad's incarceration record. And so, when this dropped, I knew that they're going to, so I actually spent time to collect the receipts. And so, I actually had a DOJ report of my dad's arrest record. I had all this stuff that directly contradicted this article. They even printed that I was a registered Democrat in the state of Washington, which was like, arguably, provably false. So they issued the retractions, and then after that, they're like, well, we can't say that

• 54:46Speaker 03

  your dad didn't go to prison because jail and prison are different. And I'm like, I literally, like, here's the incarceration record, like, I'm not lying about this. So after all of that, I give all this information to Time Magazine, and so, they got roasted over this. And then, when Time Magazine did their deep dive, they did, I think it was like, 20 something hours, and you can type it in, next 100, and, yeah. That's what happens when you tell the truth. So it worked out in my favor.

• 55:10Patrick Bet-David?

  But to me, who cares? Like, who cares?

• 55:13Speaker 03

  But the point, the reason-

• 55:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Whether your grandmother, whether your father, like, what are they trying to imply?

• 55:18Speaker 03

  They were trying to imply and paint me out as a liar to limit or potentially hinder my credibility in being able to, I think, reach young people. Because I think that there is this special, I think, thing that happens when you have younger people engaged in politics. They're more charismatic, there's more energy. And I think that they saw me specifically because I had worked with Turning Point, because I had come up through as an activist, as an effective leader. So they initially, like, of all the members of Congress, and we have a lot of dirtbags in Congress, and you're seeing that flushing out right now. But of all the members of Congress, they specifically took the time to try to go after that. And what was interesting is, is the reason I was even tipped off on this article is I had a supervisor, and as a vet, you're gonna get pissed off about this,

• 55:59Speaker 03

  okay? My first ratings supervisor, really, contacts me and says, hey, I was contacted by a journalist at the New York Times, asking about if I had any dirt on you when you were enlisted. And I said, how the hell did the New York Times get my ratings supervisor from when I was in the military? Someone at the Department of Veteran Affairs had leaked them my EPR, so your enlisted performance, my records to the New York Times. And this was happened when I first ran, so they had that. And so they had contacted my supervisor, who he, by the way, was deployed at this time. He was overseas as a contractor. So I knew that this was coming, but the New York Times saw that it also wasn't credible, and so they sent it to the Washington Post instead.

• 56:44Speaker 03

  And then this dumbass at the Washington Post put their credibility, which I'm glad they did, because they look like a moron now, but-

• 56:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, so New York Times-

• 56:51Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. They were the crux of it-

• 56:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Doesn't see it as credible. They give it to WaPo, so why would they-

• 56:55Speaker 03

  They saw it as a defamation liability, and so they handed it-

• 56:57Patrick Bet-David?

  So then why would they give it to WaPo?

• 56:58Speaker 03

  Because WaPo, at the time, up until really recently, was just another mouthpiece for these lefties.

• 57:04Patrick Bet-David?

  For sure, yeah.

• 57:04Speaker 03

  And what was interesting is, I actually went, when this happened, to House leadership, and I said, hey, I think that we have a leak problem out of the DOD or the VA, but this was still under Biden. And I think at first they're like, eh, whatever, like, it sounds- Like you had a hit piece written about you, right? Like, how do they know my supervisors are not making it up? Well, it came out that the Democrats actually had an opposition firm that was posing as or somehow working with the Department of Veteran Affairs and had obtained the service records of GOP members of Congress that had served in the military. And they actually got sued over it and they, it wasn't just me, it was other, there was a woman who was running somewhere on the East Coast. She had been raped and they leaked that about her and smeared her with it. She ended up losing her election over it, but she was running as a Republican.

• 57:49Speaker 03

  I'm not even kidding. So this is the type of shit when people don't want to run for office. They don't want to deal with this. But it's like, if you don't run for office, then we get a lot of the sociopaths in there that are literally doing nothing or running on one thing. And then, you know, they're making 600% on their stock trades. We'll get to that too. Um, so yeah, it's a massive problem. So you have to kind of just understand that when you do it, don't do it long term. Cause if you stay there for too long, you become everything that you hate. But you do it to where you can then raise up other people and then you pass the torch.

• 58:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's, it's interesting you're saying this. Like today I have a meeting with a guy that asked me for my DD 214. So my EA messages me and says, don't forget, Pat, you gotta bring your DD 214. So I went back, I had to go this morning. I'm like, where is, I'm literally pulling up my files. But for them to go to someone on the inside to get that information. So by the way, if they give it to New York Times, if New York Times gives it to Wapo, did Wapo get a defamation lawsuit from you or no? You didn't do anything with them?

• 58:42Speaker 03

  Because, because what I was advised is that basically they will drain me. So it's not like I can use the House of Representatives to sue the Washington Post. The Washington Post has way more money than I do as a member of Congress. So I'm not going to be able to sue them and use my campaign funds to do it. And so at that point in time, you have to just fight it out. And so thank goodness at that time Elon had actually purchased X. Because when I first ran for office, I was one of the few people, I think it was like me, Laura Loomer and a few others that had sued X. I was running or at the time Twitter, I was running for office at that point in time and they were suppressing my reach, my engagement. I was being suppressed on Facebook. I was being suppressed on pretty much every media outlet, um, social media outlet. And I was using my social media to fundraise my campaign.

• 59:26Speaker 03

  So I was funded by those 20 and, you know, 20, $30 donations as opposed to a lot of the special interest money in Washington. So they were tipping the scales and we know that they did this in the 2020 election with Mark Zuckerberg, who he's still, you know, I'm glad that he sees a writing on the wall, but he's still, him, Jack Dorsey, all those guys.

• 59:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Four and a million.

• 59:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, they did. I mean, it's insane. And then, of course, in my investigations, we actually found out when I was on oversight, you can actually play this clip. It's the Rep Luna interviews Yoel Roth. And I actually found out that Twitter, at the time, was engaged with Meta, YouTube, for using a private cloud server to communicate operating with the Department of Homeland Security and CISA, which is supposed to be set up to monitor domestic terrorists. And they're actually using it to suppress information pertaining to the January 6th, when President Trump called for peace. They actually had suppressed that information and were actually flagging people essentially as domestic terrorists. So the whole thing was crazy. Type in Yoel Roth, Y-O-E-L. Type in CISA or DHS.

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• 1:01:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm sorry. Is this my personal? Oh, is this? Try Rep Luna. Yeah, try Rep Luna.

• 1:01:42Speaker 03

  So my no king's troll.

• 1:01:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I did.

• 1:01:51Speaker 03

  Where is it at?

• 1:01:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it a video?

• 1:01:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a video. We nuked Yoel Roth. I mean, this is... Are you spelling his name correct?

• 1:01:59Speaker 05

  Y-O-E-L-R-O-T-H.

• 1:02:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think... I don't... I think... Oh, that's a... You should pull up that one real quick if you want to talk about an Epstein portrait. That's my hand portrait. I said, you know, don't show this to The Washington Post.

• 1:02:12Patrick Bet-David?

  That?

• 1:02:12Speaker 03

  They might think that you're a sex trafficker.

• 1:02:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Please don't show this to The Wall Street Journal. It's a hand sketch. They may think you're so funny.

• 1:02:21Speaker 03

  That was a my hand sketch. I ripped it off.

• 1:02:22Patrick Bet-David?

  That's you? Well, great job. So, this is what? This is an inner...

• 1:02:27Speaker 03

  You'll find it.

• 1:02:28Patrick Bet-David?

  While you're looking for that, to pull it up... You know my biggest thing with the Epstein thing before we close it and go to the next story is... To me, I'm finally at this point of what happened there. I'm convinced that there is so much there that would get others in trouble. Some of them that are on support for Trump. Some of them that he may use to keep the enemies under control. Gates, you know, some of the folks in Israel. If Ehud Brock visited Epstein's house 31, 32 times. And even Michael Wolff, who had him on the podcast two months ago. He has 100 hours of recorded conversation with Epstein at his house, at the Lex Wexner house that was gifted to him. And I said, "So who did you see coming to the house?"

• 1:03:13Patrick Bet-David?

  He said, "Well, Bill Clinton came there, Bill Gates." I said, "Bill Gates? You were there when Bill Gates came there? Who else?" Ehud Brock? "Yeah, I saw Ehud Brock there." "So what's he doing there?" "Well, I don't know. They would have these meetings and all this." So, he's saying this on the podcast. So, to me, if the president is a deal maker, and this is the part, because if we know 170 million auto consulting fee is weird, I will tell you, if no one gets in trouble...

• 1:03:41Patrick Bet-David?

  That's gonna be problematic for some people because they're gonna be like, wait a minute. We know something happened there. We've seen plenty of documentaries. We've seen plenty of the stories. We've seen the lawsuit. We've been tracking this guy for a while. We know what happened when even the story of 2007. I don't know what year it is when President Trump kicked them out of Mar-a-Lago. We've seen the ladies who got arrested that would bring 13, 14, 15 year old girls back to Epstein's house. And recently, Virginia Giuffre's memoir that just came out, which by the way, when did she? She passed away a few months ago, right?

• 1:04:10Speaker 03

  She committed suicide?

• 1:04:11Patrick Bet-David?

  She committed suicide, allegedly committed suicide. Yeah, six months ago. So her book just comes out and in the book, when you read it, telling her, you know, she's telling how Epstein's wanted to have, wanted her to have his child. And in return, they were willing to pay XYZ amount of money and some of the stuff that's in it is so graphic. When she tells the story of what some of the people did to her, there's multiple names of folks of beating her, hitting her, and one of them she calls prime minister, who is the prime minister. And she allegedly, the one that helped with the memoir, has given the list of names to the FBI. She says she may be releasing those names. That's what she's talking about.

• 1:04:54Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I just think if there's gotta be accountability, people get excited about a person like you that comes in, who you don't want to be a lifer. You don't want to be like Mitch McConnell falling down at 85 years old. You don't want to be like-

• 1:05:04Speaker 03

  Definitely not. Definitely not Mitch.

• 1:05:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Definitely not Mitch, right? You don't, you don't want to be that. You want to come and do your job and leave and go mind your own business. But I, I do think there is a group of people on the base that are gonna sit there and say, Anna, we want to see some names, Anna. We want to see some names, Anna. I do think there's some people-

• 1:05:21Speaker 03

  I wish I had names to present, but we haven't gotten names.

• 1:05:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I know. And well, and you said something. You said you don't control that, right?

• 1:05:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't, I don't control the-

• 1:05:28Patrick Bet-David?

  It's the DOJ. It's Pam Bondi.

• 1:05:29Speaker 03

  It's the DOJ, but also Oversight, I think a way that there's gonna be names that come out is through those bank records and transactions. And so that's why this has been given to the chairman of Oversight. So the entire, like Oversight Committee, Democrats and Republicans-

• 1:05:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you seen some stuff, name wise, that for you, you're like, dude, this is pretty shitty. This is dark.

• 1:05:49Speaker 03

  I haven't, no, I haven't seen anything that hasn't already been out there. I mean, they're, they put, they housed the 33 think thousand files and there was some new information. But as far as the names that we were told by the witnesses that we were, we were gonna get, we haven't gotten those yet.

• 1:06:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think we will, do you think there's like, out of all of these, because you go through, right?

• 1:06:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:09Patrick Bet-David?

  JFK, MLK, RFK, COVID, Epstein, 9/11. Do you think anything will happen with Epstein?

• 1:06:15Speaker 03

  Um, I think that if the witnesses can provide names, then yes. I do think that based on what I was told by a whistleblower, and you saw the article from March of this past year, that there was some form of destruction of evidence. And I also think that they tried to destroy other evidence that implicated them to include the Russia documents as well. The Russia collusion hoax documents that were found in the bird bags. That's a problem because if there's also destruction of evidence, there can also be planted evidence. But I'm not at the DOJ, right? So like, I'm limited within my certain authorities that I can do. Now, what's gonna be interesting is if there's an active pending lawsuit, and I'm not an attorney, but if there's an active pending lawsuit with the victims and the bank, and

• 1:06:55Speaker 03

  then people offer the victims money to settle, to basically have a gag on them, or just not say their names, then I also think that that complicates things. And there is an active pending lawsuit. But I do hope for these people's livelihood, and then also too for their healing process, I do hope that there's justice. Because when you look at the documentaries and you hear the statements about what was done, I mean, the fact is, is that, you know, this guy was a total, just like an evil person for doing this, especially to young women. And, you know, their entire lives are destroyed over this. They're never gonna recover from that. Which brings me to my next thing. Why are the mandatory minimums in this country not higher for sex predators? I have a bill that would-

• 1:07:36Patrick Bet-David?

  What is it right now?

• 1:07:37Speaker 03

  It depends on the state, but the federal mandatory minimum, I mean, you can get charged with rape and you're getting a couple of years and that's it.

• 1:07:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop it.

• 1:07:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, it's, um, I actually introduced something to increase, especially for child molesters, to the death penalty and/or I think it's minimum 25 years in prison.

• 1:07:53Patrick Bet-David?

  What is the-

• 1:07:54Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yep.

• 1:07:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Huh, interesting.

• 1:08:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, so there's no federal mandatory minimum, but there should. And some, you hear a lot of cases, you know, where people will get charged with child rape, whatever, and they're doing, you know, a couple of years and then they're out. You rape a kid, that kid's life's over for that.

• 1:08:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you a question, let me ask you a different question. So if, can you ask to interview Ghislaine Maxwell? Would they, could they make that happen?

• 1:08:20Speaker 03

  So Oversight already did.

• 1:08:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you?

• 1:08:23Speaker 03

  Personally, I can try to make the request, but I think that it would be up to her attorneys and then her, essentially.

• 1:08:29Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's just say if you did, let's just say if you did and you're sitting in front of her, what three questions do you ask her? What do you ask her? I'm curious.

• 1:08:35Speaker 03

  Probably names, funding records, and where can we find footage?

• 1:08:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Names, funding, record, footage?

• 1:08:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Yeah, because when you, when you see like banking, I don't know if you guys are working with Chase or not, because Chase had to pay like 290 million dollars of fines to victims.

• 1:08:53Speaker 03

  They're suing Deutsche Bank currently.

• 1:08:56Patrick Bet-David?

  There's, who's suing?

• 1:08:57Speaker 03

  The victims.

• 1:08:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's 290 million dollar settlement that.

• 1:09:00Speaker 03

  Was that to Deutsche Bank?

• 1:09:01Patrick Bet-David?

  That's Chase. That's, oh, the settlement is with Deutsche Bank?

• 1:09:05Speaker 03

  No, no, they're, they're currently in a suit. So remember I was talking about the suit that exists? So the, the transaction records will tell us everything that we need to know there. But what's been interesting is the Democrats have taken this and they're trying to make it political. And so this is kind of like, you know, they're using this as a political thing to smear the President instead of, you know.

• 1:09:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yet they're blocking, you know, when you're coming in like, hey, can we get some information? No, let's block.

• 1:09:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, let's block. It's, it's definitely a political, I think, hot potato.

• 1:09:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, well, I'm curious to know what happens with this. So are many others. Let's talk about something else. How, how much?

• 1:09:41Speaker 03

  Back to the Russian docs.

• 1:09:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, how much, how much does it bother you that, and maybe I'm wrong, does your investment portfolio outperform Nancy Pelosi's?

• 1:09:50Speaker 03

  Um, I don't own stock.

• 1:09:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:09:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I don't.

• 1:09:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you not able to, or you choose not to?

• 1:09:55Speaker 03

  No, I could, I choose not to. I think it's a bad look, which is what.

• 1:09:59Patrick Bet-David?

  At all, nothing.

• 1:10:01Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, I don't have any stocks. Like, I don't invest in the stock market.

• 1:10:04Patrick Bet-David?

  So, did you have it? You sold and?

• 1:10:06Speaker 03

  I did. I initially had a couple in, um, like, a company that was supposed to be helping with medical blindness, but I was like, I don't even want it. And it wasn't a lot. It was like a thousand dollars. So, it was like, nothing. And I was like, I'm not, I'm not dealing with this. But, um, what's interesting is, I was having a conversation with Representative Burchett, because, you know, when you see people on all sides getting 600% returns, they're buying stocks prior to us giving weapons to another country. They're buying stocks prior to different things happening with the market that we know are going to happen. We're meeting with the CEOs. They're in committee. We're working on the legislation. It's bullshit that it's not illegal to do this, right? Or their wives, who are great lovely ladies,

• 1:10:48Speaker 03

  but not savvy in the stock market, are making these great purchases. And you're like, wow, how is that happening? You know, how's Karen doing this? Um, you know, that gives Congress such a bad reputation. If you wanted to know why the American people hate Congress so much, it's like, look no further than insider trading. Banning insider trading for members of Congress is one of the most bipartisan, popular issues in this country. And yet, when I informed the leadership that I was going to be doing, and actually did a press conference, I said, hey, I will, like, give you to the end of September, which ironically enough, we're not in, there's a shutdown right now, so I couldn't bring it. But when we get back, we will be pushing for it. Um, but I told them, I'm going to do it at the end of this month. They, basically, in a group chat,

• 1:11:33Speaker 03

  um, with me and Representative Burchett, um, someone said, you know, you're forcing your colleagues to take a bad vote, and some people use this to pay for their college, their kids' college education, and, you know, you're going to cost us the midterms, like, the midterm elections, and, you know, this could hurt the republic.

• 1:11:50Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a conservative saying this.

• 1:11:53Speaker 03

  I'm gonna call him that. So, but like all that to say that, you know, for me specifically, when you're hearing that and I'm like, what are you talking about? Like the founding fathers did not have stock portfolios. And by the way, they weren't schlepping it to Washington DC and they weren't going to be there the entire time. And this is not a long-term goal for them. But what it's become is it's evolved into this like nasty machine where people do this full-time and they have no issues insider trading and all that. I was like, I'm saving the republic. I'm not breaking it. What are you talking about? If you're at, if you have, you know, these invested portfolios that are going into the defense industry or the pharmaceutical industry, how would you ever be expected to advocate for those people? Right? So this gets into, you know, do we need campaign finance reform? I would hope so. I think so. I think

• 1:12:37Speaker 03

  that it's ridiculous how much money goes into congressional seats. I can tell you that when I first ran, I was, you know, using the grassroots fundraising. The second time I ran, I was grossly outspent, um, you know, three to one and then 12 to one the first time I ran and, um, and I won my last election cycle. I mean, I was pretty severely outspent there too. But the point is, is it should not cost, you know, tens of millions of dollars to run for Congress. And unless you do have somewhat of a social media platform to where you can compete with the special interest money coming in from Washington, you're not going to get elected to Congress. I've met great people that want to run for office and they'll never be able to do it because they'll be outspent, they'll message on your branding or what they want to hit you on. Everyone has a positive and negative rating

• 1:13:19Speaker 03

  in politics, messaging, all of it. And if you're outspent, you can't share your message back, then that's too bad. People will see it on TV. They believe it. They don't question it. And then that's it.

• 1:13:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So i- in this area, you and AOC do get along. So it's something that...

• 1:13:35Speaker 03

  On this issue, yeah.

• 1:13:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:13:36Speaker 03

  But it's like me and it's a cross-section of the, of com- of conference does connect on this issue. Yeah.

• 1:13:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Who, who on both sides is aggressively against this?

• 1:13:47Speaker 03

  So look at like the top 50 stock traders in Congress and you'll see everyone aggressively.

• 1:13:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you pull that up, Rob? Can you pull up? Because it's public. We've, we've reported on this before. It's not hard to find.

• 1:13:56Speaker 03

  And to be clear, I mean, I, look, I, I have become wildly popular in Congress for this legislation.

• 1:14:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Wildly popular?

• 1:14:03Speaker 03

  That's a joke. Yeah. That's a joke. We all hate my guts over it.

• 1:14:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I believe you. So this is it. So if we go through it, Nancy Pelosi, she's the coach. She's like the Warren Buffett. Oh, wow. Mitt Romney's in there. Most profitable Congress traders.

• 1:14:14Speaker 03

  He's not, Mitt Romney's not.

• 1:14:16Patrick Bet-David?

  No, this isn't it, Rob. There's another one that they have. Who's the next one? Mark Warner? Let me just read those names right there.

• 1:14:21Speaker 03

  So, and to be clear, there are people that do have portfolios that were like, well, we'd support this if, you know, during the divestment or we're not, we're not taxed on it if we're forced to pull out because they do have people that are running their portfolios. But, I mean...

• 1:14:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You want to pull up returns, not dollar. Because Mitt Romney's a half a billionaire guy. You were saying, and I'm sorry.

• 1:14:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, but it's just like, you have these people, you know, I'm not talking about the ones that are independently wealthy going and nothing's changed, right? Because there's a lot of that. But, I'm talking like, you know, you go and make a 175 and you come out in like, two, three terms, you're a multimillionaire.

• 1:14:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Or a couple hundred.

• 1:14:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's like, how does that, a couple hundred, which sounds to be the, the ongoing trend here.

• 1:15:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. You know, there's a, there's companies that got started purely on...

• 1:15:05Speaker 03

  Tracking politicians' trades, yeah.

• 1:15:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and you're able to invest exactly the way Nancy Pelosi trades. And Tom, on the podcast last week, he said he invested into this one company, and he put $50,000 and matched 100%, and it's legal, 100% of what Nancy Pelosi did with her investments, since he put the $50,000 in July, he's already made 18% return in three months.

• 1:15:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's, it's literally insane that they say that they're not doing it, they're totally doing it. And then, you know, people like me try to do this and push the vote, which I've, I've done, I've pushed many votes before, right? And then, you know, I'm going to destroy the republic and I'm forcing my colleagues to take a bad vote. So, but the president supports it, the Treasury Secretary supports it, so guess what? You all better support it because you're going to have egg on your face if you don't. But yeah, this is one of those issues that, you know, if you want to go to Congress to trade stocks, try a job on Wall Street instead.

• 1:16:01Patrick Bet-David?

  What's, what's this, Rob? What, what did you pull up?

• 1:16:03Speaker 05

  This was the app that you had mentioned, PelosiTracker.app.

• 1:16:07Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but there is a, there's a return of...

• 1:16:10Speaker 03

  It's like 600%.

• 1:16:11Patrick Bet-David?

  600% couple of the guys are making.

• 1:16:12Speaker 03

  And, and it's like, it's not uncommon, right? But like, I just, it's interesting because I know the polling on this too, like, a majority of Americans support this. It's not even a question. Like, this is probably one of the top bipartisan issues. This and UAPs. But, they support this.

• 1:16:26Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the likelihood of this passing? What's the likelihood of this actually going through?

• 1:16:28Speaker 03

  It depends, because it's going to require people to go down and sign it. So, I think, you know, the option is here is that they do it through committee and that there can be some adjustments to it, but ultimately, it would prevent members of Congress from doing the individual stock trades, which is what needs to happen. Or we have to do the discharge petition. And I have talked to a few people that currently trade stocks and they're like, okay, we understand the optics, it doesn't look good, and people are doing it. So, and we know that they're doing it. So, we want to kind of have a bite at the apple on the legislation. But the, the bill that we have as is, that, you know, AOC, Chip Roy, myself, Tim Burchett, all these people have signed on to and worked on is pretty good. It has a lot of cosponsors. I think that it passes if it comes to the floor.

• 1:17:11Speaker 03

  So, I think that it's just going to be the process of getting it to the floor, which there's a lot of parliamentary hurdles that you have to kind of conquer. A lot of people are like, you know, what does Congress do? What do you do? I'm like, guys, there is literally probably about 10% of us that are doing 90% of the work. So, a little bit of grace, please. Thank you.

• 1:17:26Patrick Bet-David?

  That's generally the rule, though.

• 1:17:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:17:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Credit or theories, 80/20, but it's probably more under 90/10 of, of what happens.

• 1:17:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:17:33Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what is AOC like to work with?

• 1:17:35Speaker 03

  Um, I haven't really had much conversation with her. Uh, she was on my oversight, or she was on oversight with me, the committee last Congress. She's now on a different one. Um, I've worked with her on this bill specifically, um, in regards to us both backing it, and then also to backing a capping credit card interest. And I think she'll probably get behind one that we're going to do on capping student loan interest. So, you know, we are clearly disagreeing on a lot of issues, but I think these issues specifically, where you have more of the populist perspective, we probably connect on. Um, I just, the way in my dialogue is if people are gonna, like, I'm not the person that usually starts fights, I finish them. So, I don't really engage in the...

• 1:18:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Does she, has she ever picked on you? Have you, has she ever come after you, or no?

• 1:18:24Speaker 03

  Hmm, not really, no.

• 1:18:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, so you guys are very similar personality types, but on opposite sides when it comes on to...

• 1:18:30Speaker 03

  I'm a little bit different, but yeah.

• 1:18:31Patrick Bet-David?

  But I would say both of, and what I mean by that is both of you guys are fighters. Like, if somebody comes after you, you're not afraid to, to fight. Policies may be different, but she seems to be... The fighting type, not like the one I like the most, my favorite out of all of you. No one's even close to her. This is a, I told my wife, if I ever had another person you had to worry about, it would be Katie Porter. I'm in love with Katie Porter.

• 1:18:52Speaker 03

  Katie Porter?

• 1:18:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Katie Porter's the goat.

• 1:18:53Speaker 03

  Better watch out Katie.

• 1:18:55Patrick Bet-David?

  She is one of a kind. Katie Porter, I think if she, I don't think if you gave her money, she would leave and go to the V U or do a different show. I really think she cannot stand the opposite side and she truly wants to do something to them with policies. She's a true, true believer, but if Katie Porter, if this stuff doesn't work out, man, I would bring her to the show, her take and have her there or you know.

• 1:19:20Speaker 03

  Katie was interesting. She would, I would see her a lot sitting quietly with some of the Republicans. So the chambers are broken down to the Republicans sit on the right side, the Democrats sit on the left side. I usually sit in the front, like center aisle so I can see the speaker as well. But you'd see her a couple of times. It's interesting though, because members of Congress are different with each other than they are with their staff sometimes. And you hear some horror stories with how they treat some of their staff sometimes.

• 1:19:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Her?

• 1:19:44Speaker 03

  No, just in general, most of the members.

• 1:19:46Patrick Bet-David?

  What is she like?

• 1:19:47Speaker 03

  Um, I did not have any terribly negative experiences with her, but I think for the most part, people leave me alone. And so I don't know if that's like a fear thing or, you know, I just don't, I'm very focused on facts and I use that and I tend to, you know, Eric Swalwell bothered me for a little bit, but I trolled him with his videos and stuff, so he left me alone after that, so.

• 1:20:10Patrick Bet-David?

  He's easy though.

• 1:20:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's a, he's not, he's not particularly threatening, no.

• 1:20:15Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I don't, I don't see him as somebody that would be, uh, it's, Eric is probably his own worst enemy. He gets in his own way. Some of the stuff that he says, you know, you know, you're either a great troll or you're trying to be one.

• 1:20:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's like trying.

• 1:20:29Patrick Bet-David?

  He's trying, like Newsom is dying to be Trump, but he's not. Newsom is trying to be Trump. Newsom's not Trump, right? Nowhere near him, but everything he does, he's trying to be. Uh, uh, the Trump of the left.

• 1:20:45Speaker 03

  No, a hundred, I was, um, on a show recently, I think it was on Comedy Central, it was like an evening talk show. And, you know, they're talking about the no kings protest and I had made a joke and I was like, well, if we were talking about Gavin Newsom, be the no queens protest. And he, he was like, well, is that homophobic? I was like, no, he just has feminine tendencies and it's totally true. I don't know, like, he bitches on the internet all the time. It's like, what are you doing Gavin? You know, you have fires in the Palisades, what's going on?

• 1:21:09Patrick Bet-David?

  He is kind of metro, right? If you think about it, he is super metro, he's dying to get on Rogan, he wants Rogan to get on his show and-

• 1:21:16Speaker 03

  Oh, Rogan would eat his breakfast though, if he had him on, like, Joe don't play.

• 1:21:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Not, not only does Joe don't play, but I think the approach he took is just the wrong approach. Joe is, Joe will have anybody on-

• 1:21:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:21:29Patrick Bet-David?

  -to have a conversation with.

• 1:21:30Speaker 03

  I think people are intimidated though, because you can't, you know, bring notes, you have to kind of be secure in what your ideas are. And so, I was always, actually, when I first did, um, or when I was on with Joe, and then I left, I actually remember thinking, I can't believe Kamala Harris wouldn't sit down with him, because if you're running for president, that's the show you want to go on, like, would, and I just, I couldn't, and then I realized, you know, it's because she wasn't that good.

• 1:21:56Patrick Bet-David?

  No, she was scared, she was scared and, you know, uh, uh, we had the Teamster, uh, uh, here, uh, president, Sean O'Brien.

• 1:22:05Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:22:05Patrick Bet-David?

  And they, anybody that becomes president, they give everybody 16 questions to answer. He said, everybody answer the 16 questions, including Joe Biden for 2024. He said he wasn't happy about it. He came, he answered the 16 questions, the only person that only answered three was Kamala Harris. And he says, you have to realize, I'm a lifelong Democrat, my entire family were Democrats, we're gonna vote for Democrats. But he says, she came to us and she said, with her, you know, I don't need your vote, but you guys better support me. I was like, what? We're Democrats, what are you doing talking to us like this? So-

• 1:22:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, she's not a good person.

• 1:22:38Patrick Bet-David?

  She is, she's- She is, I mean, there's a lot of words. Have you ever met her? Have you ever had any encounters with her?

• 1:22:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, actually, you can find, when I was with Turning Point, I was coming back from the NRA conference, and this was back, I think, in 2018, and I ran into her at the airport in Dallas. And I, the reason I got into politics is because I started as a counter-trafficking activist. That's how Charlie Kirk found me during my gap year. And I ran into her at the airport, yep, there it is, and I confronted her over not doing anything about the trafficking of women and children, because she's literally, like, if you're in office and, like, use your position to help fight that, right? And that was my interaction, yeah.

• 1:23:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:23:16Speaker 03

  I told her she would be president. Hi, I'm the Hispanic campaigner for Turning Point USA. I want to know about the children that you're paying that are at the border right now. Wait, would you like to take a picture real quick? No, I'm just picking up pictures real quick, I'm sorry. You're getting behind me, you're saying that you're fighting the women. No, I'm not going to back off. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. I'm asking her, she's, take the, she's supporting. I understand, and those ladies asked me to take a picture before you walked up. I don't care, you're in my way, don't touch me. Don't touch the nation before you walk up. She is damaging what is happening to Hispanic women and children at the border because she's promoting family reunification, which has been, is definitely, uh, you're not commenting on this issue.

• 1:23:54Patrick Bet-David?

  What year is this?

• 1:23:54Speaker 03

  You are directly impacting the Hispanic demographic in a negative way. Yeah, so she was initially, I think, on the Democrat ticket to run in 2020, and then she didn't make the nomination, then Joe Biden was the nominee, and then she became the VP. And then, it was funny, because I saw her also walk in, because I came in in 2022, so she was still a vice president, and I know her team saw that, because then I started campaigning with Trump and JD, and then Kamala HQ kept, would keep, like, reposting my stuff to try to at me and stuff. So Kamala will never forget that day.

• 1:24:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I bet. But by the way, so Charlie sees that and he DMs you?

• 1:24:27Speaker 03

  No, no, I was already with Turning Point at this point in time.

• 1:24:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, because you said Mexican, Hispanic, uh...

• 1:24:32Speaker 03

  So I was their director of national Hispanic engagement, so he had recruited me, um... In 2018, and I was with him for about a year, and I would do the campus tours with him, Brandon Tatum, and ultimately realized I was like, I want to help kind of shift the national narrative. So I realized as an activist, you can do it one way, but also two, I had to do it by running for office. And so that's when I kind of gave it a shot to try to figure out how to do it.

• 1:24:58Patrick Bet-David?

  What was he like? I spent time with Charlie, but what was he like for you?

• 1:25:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, so when I first met him, 2018, Turning Point was a small organization. I remember the first Young Latino Leadership Summit that we did. There was, I walked into the room and there was maybe 25 people in the room. And Charlie would walk around. I remember traveling with him and he was kind of, you know, this young kid and he didn't have the nice suits yet, but he had the passion for it. So he was out there kind of just doing his thing. But I mean, the first conferences were maybe a couple hundred people. And then it exploded. But I would travel with him. I remember the first tabling session that we did was actually at a university in Portland, Oregon. And he just pulled out the tail. He had his four GoPros and then a sign that said there are only two genders. And you can actually see that on my personal profile. Yeah, there it is. If you go to my actual

• 1:25:47Speaker 03

  X account, you can see the photo there. But, you know, working with him, it's interesting because I, when I found out about what had happened with Charlie, I was actually, ironically enough, sitting in my office, doing an interview on the assassination of John F. Kennedy for a documentary that Fox was doing. And I heard it and then I saw it and then I called over to Tyler and realized that he probably wasn't going to make it. If you pull up the actual photo, though, on my personal account on X, just go to the real Ana Paulina and it'll be pinned right there. Or it'll be up on there. If you go through the photos, just click Photos and you'll see it. Just go down. You'll find it's, there are only two genders.

• 1:26:30Speaker 03

  But the whole thing, you know, with him is that he had always, and he had this ability to read things, and I swear he had a visual memory to where he could just regurgitate it. But he was like brilliant, right? I think he was gonna run for president. I think Erica had mentioned that, you know, if he were to run for office one day, I think that he was definitely projected to. But he had an eye for talent. He would help elevate people. He was really smart. He always had tips. Like, I remember even when I was campaigning with him and JD Vance, he was actually backstage, and he's like, "You should really try, you know, using this word instead." And I took his advice, because he was usually right. And it worked, of course. But he was an awesome guy. He was a really good guy.

• 1:27:08Patrick Bet-David?

  He was one of a kind. By the way, it's interesting, he said 2018. And I don't know, Rob, if you can find this, or I sent you the link. In 2017, I interviewed him on the show.

• 1:27:18Speaker 03

  Oh, in 2017?

• 1:27:19Patrick Bet-David?

  2017.

• 1:27:19Speaker 03

  Yes, it was like, right when he was getting started.

• 1:27:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's right. So, I'm at his event, and I tell Mar, Mar's like, "Why are you talking to this 23-year-old guy?" So, "Why am I talking to...?" I said, "This guy's gonna be the president."

• 1:27:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:27:29Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, "You think...?" I said, "This guy is gonna be the president one day." And I'm at his event, I think it could be in Fort Worth, or Arlington, or something like that, Texas. And I said, "Hey, just out of curiosity, what you're doing here? Tell me about the ratios, percentages." I said, "How many people here?" I noticed, I walked around, there's about 1,000 people here. "I didn't see any blacks, I didn't see any Hispanics, I didn't see anybody else. Everybody's white." He says, "You know what? Maybe that's something we should work on."

• 1:27:52Speaker 03

  And he did it.

• 1:27:53Patrick Bet-David?

  It's in the interview.

• 1:27:54Speaker 03

  And he did it.

• 1:27:54Patrick Bet-David?

  It's in the interview, when we're talking about this, I said Hispanics. And the part about him that was unique is, he was so brilliant, but he would listen, and then go make a decision for himself. And we said, "All right, let me see what's going on." We had, this guy was 101. "What are you at? What happened to him? What's your, you know, being, where you at?" This is another story right now, that's, a lot of people are still curious to know what happened with Charlie.

• 1:28:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think that, in the trial, I think it's gonna be publicly televised, I am, that's what I'm hearing. I think the evidence will come out then. I think that they should release, after the trials, over all the evidence, because, at least what I found in the assassination of Kennedy, King, and RFK, the evidence speaks for itself, and then people can decide. But, you know, I'm skeptical to weigh in, because I just don't know all the facts yet. But what I will also say is that the family has, to my knowledge, not been able to say anything yet, either, because they're worried that the defense might use it in their case, to try to plead innocence. And so... You know, the one thing I have said publicly is like, I don't think that anyone should be at all implicating Erica Kirk

• 1:29:06Speaker 03

  or the family in this. And I think that people that do that are just, that's wrong.

• 1:29:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's doing that?

• 1:29:10Speaker 03

  Um, I've seen a lot of postings that have implied that she was somehow involved or sought to benefit from it. And some of these accounts, Tyler Boyer had posted, one of them had over 400,000 followers. I think it was on Instagram.

• 1:29:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Ty- Tyler who? Tyler?

• 1:29:24Speaker 03

  Tyler Boyer.

• 1:29:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, do you know Tyler Boyer?

• 1:29:27Speaker 05

  I don't. I'm looking him up now.

• 1:29:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's, he's had a Turning Point action. But I had responded to it and he said like something along the lines of this account has over 400,000 people following it. But you know, I see the videos on X and, or the TikTok reposts and I just think that that's wrong. Ultimately though, I do think that there is this aspect of a foreign funding tie. And so if you go to my account and you actually tie in, um, type in the Reploon account. And then there should be a share in regards to Antifa and the funding networks that exist. So there's no question that there are certain groups that are being investigated with potential previous knowledge to the assassination. One of them was that Armed Queers of Salt Lake City.

• 1:30:10Speaker 03

  What's interesting about them is who they are connected to. So I do think that there's this aspect of foreign money coming in, radicalizing these groups and then things happening. But you know, whatever is there, I think that it needs to be publicly out there for the American people to decide. So I'm looking forward to seeing the evidence in the trial.

• 1:30:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I'm, I'm very curious. In regards to whoever's saying Erica, I mean typically in situations like this, I think it's like normally they go to wife first or spouse first. That's a protocol that they'll, they'll normally do. I sold insurance for many years and when clients would have suicide or certain things that would happen, the investigators that the insurance companies would hire, the list, 50 out of 50 ones I was a part of. First one, they go through a spouse, then it's everybody else. So it's natural, organic thing that people do. Uh, but on the list here, who do you think benefit from it the most? Who do you think benefit from it the most?

• 1:31:03Speaker 03

  Um, I think that Charlie specifically was seen as a threat because of what he was going to do in the future. And so I would say that the people, the ideas that benefited from it most were the ones that directly conflicted with Charlie's ideologies and beliefs. Going back to a big issue that we have in this country right now is We have a great thing, freedom of speech. But in the same sense, other countries, our adversaries, use that to try to pit us against each other. And they capitalize on people's own ignorance in regards to believing things without questioning it on the internet, whatever they might see. And I think that Charlie had the unique ability to be able to cut through that.

• 1:31:48Speaker 03

  And so, you know, when they're talking about potentially people that should be held accountable for this, obviously, from what I'm hearing, the shooter's fingerprints were all over the top of the building, they're all over the firearm, allegedly all over the bullet casings. That's what I'm being told. I haven't seen the direct evidence yet because I'm not, you know, an investigator, I'm not one of the criminal investigators handling the case. But I do think that there's this aspect of, after Charlie's assassination, you did see a massive mobilization and shift from the administration to come down on these foreign funding ties to groups like Antifa and people that have been targeting the conservative belief system and ideologies. And as we know, Charlie was everything that stood against that.

• 1:32:33Speaker 03

  He was kind of in the fatal funnel, if you will.

• 1:32:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I don't think there was anybody like him in the entire.

• 1:32:42Speaker 03

  No, and it's interesting, you're seeing kind of this like push to like, who's going to be heir apparent to replace him? You can't replace him.

• 1:32:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No way.

• 1:32:49Speaker 03

  He's not replaceable.

• 1:32:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, you couldn't replace Reagan. You tried to, Trump showed up. And guess what? Some will say Trump is much better than Reagan was because Trump is a better negotiator. You're not going to be able to replace Trump. You're not going to be able to replace Charlie. He's one of a kind. Is this the clip, Rob?

• 1:33:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, this is a clip. Read specifically that bottom line.

• 1:33:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you zoom in a little bit, Rob?

• 1:33:09Speaker 03

  I actually talked to the DOJ about Neverwaring Singham. He's an interesting cat. He's probably one of the worst of the worst. He's like, there's George Soros and then there's Neverwaring Singham.

• 1:33:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 1:33:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, Singham, again, he was the one funding those LA ICE riots. He's tied to the Armed Queers of Salt Lake City, who's also tied to Cuban Terror Network. But he was also named in this as funding rioting. And so what they're doing is, the guy, Singham, by the way, refused to respond to congressional inquiry into funding of these riots. So we wrote a letter to the Secretary of Treasury to freeze his assets.

• 1:33:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah, I've seen this guy. We invited him to the podcast.

• 1:33:43Speaker 03

  Oh, well, if you get him in town, let me know because we're going to come arrest him.

• 1:33:47Speaker 03

  Did you really invite him?

• 1:33:48Patrick Bet-David?

  That's last week.

• 1:33:49Speaker 03

  Oh, man.

• 1:33:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Last week, we invited him on the podcast.

• 1:33:51Speaker 03

  Oh, man.

• 1:33:52Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the guy we invited just literally a week ago.

• 1:33:54Speaker 03

  I have a set of questions, but let me know because he seriously has been refusing to respond to Congress for testimony.

• 1:33:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, where's he based out of?

• 1:34:01Speaker 03

  China. He's from LA, but he also spends the majority of his time in China. Oh, yeah, he's like the worst of the worst.

• 1:34:08Patrick Bet-David?

  So, no, okay, so at first I didn't know the name, but now that you go to the picture, we've been reading about this guy.

• 1:34:13Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:34:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Sing was a socialist and admirer of, uh...

• 1:34:16Speaker 03

  Oh, you're using Wikipedia. We got to talk to you on the fact sourcing on that one.

• 1:34:21Speaker 03

  Don't use, don't help them out. Wikipedia's the worst. Grok AI.

• 1:34:26Patrick Bet-David?

  So, what do we know about him? What do you know about him?

• 1:34:29Speaker 03

  I know that he made his money directly getting help and funding from the CCP. And I also know that the guy's a devout, like, as bad as it gets, straight-up shill for the Communist Chinese Party. The groups and organizations that he's funding and that his wife also funds are directly responsible for a lot of the divide in this country. But it's not benefiting anyone else but China. So, I'll use another issue and example. So, there's an organization called Code Pink, and they're advocating for the people of Palestine. But what's ironic about them is that their funding is all coming from Singhham's wife, which is coming from the CCP. He's also not a registered foreign agent, and so we actually wrote the DOJ because last Congress when Senator Rubio was, uh, head of the House,

• 1:35:13Speaker 03

  uh, or the Senate Foreign Intelligence Committee, or not Foreign Intelligence, Senate Intelligence Committee, they actually wrote a letter to the DOJ at the time, asking them to hit him with foreign charges. So, this guy's been on the radar for a while, but I think it's gonna happen now where they're actually gonna act on it criminally.

• 1:35:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting.

• 1:35:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, so like, they, they take these groups, right? Like, let's say he's, he's funding different organizations that are splitting Americans specifically on ICE, using the Hispanic demographic, right? Then they're also, at the same time, funding organizations that are pitting Americans on the Palestine versus Israel issue. So, it's only benefiting and coming, though, from one country, and that's China. And so, I tell this to people, and I'm like, here's the funding ties. We know, uh, the data Republican on X has done a great job kind of linking all the groups and organizations that have come from Neville Roy Singhham and going into, you know, where he's operating and funneling the money, and it's just, it's wild to me.

• 1:36:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Has he been seen with Soros at all, or no?

• 1:36:08Speaker 03

  No, but he's, um, Soros is a globalist, and Singhham is a communist.

• 1:36:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it. What a great combination.

• 1:36:18Speaker 03

  So you have the globalists and the communists both trying to destroy America. And you have idiots regurgitating the talking points, and it's not even organic to this country, which is the ironic part of all that.

• 1:36:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, interesting. So he doesn't come to the States, because if he comes here, he would be arrested?

• 1:36:37Speaker 03

  Well, he's in big trouble. Yeah, I don't even know that he's in country right now, because we could not serve him to respond to Congress. So we tried, and he refused to receive.

• 1:36:47Patrick Bet-David?

  So who from the US government has been able to communicate with him, if anybody?

• 1:36:53Speaker 03

  I don't think anyone has, which is why he's being... If you look at that clip, I mean, he's named as... Actually, you should really play that clip. Yeah, if you can, you should play that. That's a great clip, and you should actually hear about the funding.

• 1:37:07Patrick Bet-David?

  It was a three-minute video, right? Go for it.

• 1:37:09Speaker 03

  This is not just a story about violence and chaos, as you alluded to, Mr. President. This is a money story. And at the Government Accountability Institute, my colleague and I, Peter Schweitzer and I and our team, we follow the money, and we followed it to the top of what we call the protest industrial complex, Riot Inc. And we found a network of NGOs. It's not just the Soros network, the Open Society network, it's other funding networks, the Arabella Funding Network, the Tides Funding Network, Neville Roy Singham and his network, Foreign Cash. And it's also big, left-wing funders. Some of them are not citizens of this country. Mr. Hans-Jörg Wies of Switzerland.

• 1:37:52Speaker 03

  They're pouring money into this entire ecosystem. And so I want to share three money facts with you about what we call Riot Inc. Number one, like any corporation, Riot Inc. has many divisions. It doesn't just have the Antifa Boots on the Ground division. It has PR divisions, it has marketing divisions, it has a very well-funded legal division to get these boots on the ground.

• 1:38:13Speaker 05

  Back on the streets as quickly as possible. But it does have those investors that I mentioned. Number two, we have identified dozens of radical organizations, not just the decentralized Antifa organizations, but dozens of radical organizations that have received more than $100 million from the Riot Inc. investors. These would be the lawyer groups, these would be the groups that advocate for calling good, honest Americans fascists, etc. And then three, I think the most shocking thing is that we have found that more than $100 million in US taxpayer funding has flowed into these funding networks, including at least $4 million to these very groups themselves,

• 1:38:55Speaker 05

  not just Antifa types, but there was an event in Atlanta called Stop Cop City. Over 60 rioters were charged with domestic terrorism. These groups received money for that, from both the billionaire class as well as taxpayer money. So, one other thing, this money helps fund the decentralized crowdfunding platforms.

• 1:39:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there, right?

• 1:39:19Speaker 05

  These are ways that-

• 1:39:20Patrick Bet-David?

  We see citizen journalists pull up to these guys that are being paid to protest. And there's a business model where you pay people to go protest for you.

• 1:39:31Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:39:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Didn't we, wasn't there a clip about this guy?

• 1:39:36Speaker 03

  Oh, I posted one where this woman's a professional protester. She's like been at 100 protests. You can actually find it on that same page, because I've been covering the Antifa organized rights. A lot of people think that Antifa is organic. I actually just had this debate again on that late show, that late night show. But, yeah, they are absolutely, they're organized. A lot of them communicate on the dark web on a similar platform to Facebook. They are, a lot of times, using crowdfunding, foreign funding, cash, all of it. They're paying, they're suing cities if they're being detained by activist attorneys who are retained by these billionaire leftists. And a lot of people think, oh, you know, yeah, tax the rich, we hate billionaires. You guys are all shills for the very billionaires that are pushing to, you know, basically force you guys to eat bugs and enjoy it.

• 1:40:20Speaker 03

  You know, it's like, it's just such a wild concept to me. And it's like, you have to break through that. And so, social media's been key in that. But going back to, you know, about Charlie, Charlie was able to break through this in such a unique way. And I think that there were many people that benefited from his murder.

• 1:40:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So you think Neville could be possibly behind the murder of Charlie?

• 1:40:41Speaker 03

  I don't, I don't think like he directly said, I want to murder this person. But I think that his money in radicalizing these groups, I think absolutely had a form of funding tie.

• 1:40:50Patrick Bet-David?

  But do you think there's a direct tie, like a direct tie where you can track and say, no, this is the person that said, go to XYZ?

• 1:40:58Speaker 03

  Um, I think that Tyler Robinson definitely probably had those conversations with someone. And what's interesting to me is not just with Tyler Robinson, but also with the shooter that tried to assassinate the president in Pennsylvania. Um, and then also with some other things that had come out with some of these radicals, Discord seems to be this communication app. What's interesting is, you know, you look at the assassination attempt on President Trump and Butler, we don't know anything about that.

• 1:41:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Why don't we though?

• 1:41:31Speaker 03

  But that's the thing, I think that that a hundred percent, there was something there that does not sit right, feel right. I had actually questioned the Secret Service Director at that point in time, she perjured herself to me. And that's when I was like, perjury charges. She ended up, I mean, you had both Democrat and Republican saying, you need to resign from office, you're like, you're unfit. Um, but we never saw anything that came out about that. And from my own personal takeaway, after seeing the evidence, that spot was left open to assassinate the president. The Secret Service did not send their shooters, their snipers to a meeting that was supposed to be had by local law enforcement to coordinate day of. He was drastically understaffed with Secret Service.

• 1:42:15Speaker 03

  And I think that the rhetoric that was maintained, I think it was like, you know, we're going to kind of leave this open and see what happens. But there was way too much about the last shooter with President Trump, where you cannot tell me that, I don't think that that was intentionally done. I think that that was absolutely, just based on the previous investigations I've looked into with Kennedy, RFK and MLK, it felt like an inside job.

• 1:42:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I think you even said, if I'm not mistaken, you said, the only person that probably has that can release it is the president. You said something about that, right?

• 1:42:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, President Trump, I think can release the information on Butler, PA. Um, and I think that that's obviously something very personal to him, but also too, at the same time, remember, President Trump gets into office, but you still have a handover that takes place. So.

• 1:43:03Speaker 03

  The evidence, is it exactly what was left? What's interesting, I'll use another example. The cocaine in the White House? That evidence was destroyed immediately. We'll never get to the bottom of that. Why would they destroy that evidence? So if it's something to this caliber-

• 1:43:20Patrick Bet-David?

  What does destroyed mean?

• 1:43:22Speaker 03

  Well, specifically with the cocaine-

• 1:43:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Did it get destroyed in Hunter's nose destroyed?

• 1:43:26Speaker 03

  Well, with the cocaine. There was like the baggie that could have had prints, all that, that's gone. So if that's happening with cocaine- No, I'm not surprised. You had some crazy people in and out of that White House.

• 1:43:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm sure they had a great weekend.

• 1:43:39Speaker 03

  Don't use cocaine, guys.

• 1:43:41Patrick Bet-David?

  But Theo Von said it best to J.D. Vance. He says, "We can't even do cocaine nowadays, right?" I don't know if you saw that clip with-

• 1:43:46Speaker 03

  Well, there's fentanyl, don't do cocaine.

• 1:43:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No, don't touch it.

• 1:43:49Speaker 03

  Go running and stuff, you know. But the fact that discord seems to be a common thread. I do think that the shooter in Pennsylvania had a handler. It seems like there's similar profiles to these people. So I definitely am curious myself to see what the evidence is. But I do think that when the information isn't put out there directly, that's when you have a lot of these, well, you know, could have, Erica have been involved in any of that? And that's why I'm saying like, don't, I don't think that she at all had any connection to that. When I see that, it's like you're already, you're victimizing the victim, if that makes sense. Because at the end of the day, she did lose her husband. She lost her kids. Like, I was just with her at the White House. And she's, you know, that's anyone. If that happened to your wife, my husband, like, it's devastating.

• 1:44:33Speaker 03

  But I do think that there will be a lot probably that will come out in the trial. And that'll answer a lot of questions, which I think people should see the evidence.

• 1:44:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, what's the one thing that came out, Rob? That anybody that was at Utah, the 3,000 people that were in attendance, they can't talk about a gag order? The biggest gag order of all time? I think it was said? Is that what it was, Rob?

• 1:44:53Speaker 05

  Yes, they, the judge in the case for the murder trial of Tyler Robinson has issued a gag order that prevents any of the witnesses who may have been in attendance that may testify in the case from speaking with the media. That's 2,000 to 3,000 people that were on the UVU campus at the time of the shooting on September 10th.

• 1:45:10Speaker 03

  That's interesting.

• 1:45:11Speaker 05

  Right now, those people are gagged.

• 1:45:12Speaker 03

  I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan of gag orders because of what I saw happen with President Trump in New York City, when they were trying to put a gag order on him to control the narrative about that. What I will also say, though, is I'm curious to see what evidence they do have. So I'm curious to see what they can present in court. Because if you have evidence where you have like prints on everything and the guy's pleading guilty to it, I think it's a lot different. That'll answer a lot of questions. But either which way, I mean, Charlie was on the path to become and probably easily get elected based on the base that he had and the reach that he had and the ability to connect with people and the messaging and just the ability to break through cognitive dissonance. He was like a complete just machine in that sense.

• 1:45:52Speaker 03

  And I think that, you know, there were countries that can track that kind of stuff, like China. But also too, you know, a lot of people have said, well, was it because he was pivoting on his position on Israel? And I think that that's why the evidence specifically needs to come out so that people can answer those questions for themselves. But as far as I'm hearing, apparently they have great evidence on Tyler Robinson. So that's it.

• 1:46:17Patrick Bet-David?

  We will see. Is this it, Rob?

• 1:46:19Speaker 05

  Yes, this is a news report on the gag order.

• 1:46:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:46:25Speaker 04

  ...of discovery in this case, Your Honor. It's voluminous, to say the least. His lawyers entered their formal appearance and declined to waive his right to a preliminary hearing.

• 1:46:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's this?

• 1:46:36Speaker 04

  Judge Tony Graff has issued a gag order preventing anyone associated with the case from talking about it.

• 1:46:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:46:41Speaker 04

  It's to avoid pretrial publicity, already a big problem in a case with massive media exposure involving a high-profile figure like Charlie Kirk.

• 1:46:48Speaker 03

  So is anyone in the trial? Or is it all the 3,000 people?

• 1:46:52Speaker 04

  But the judge wants to ensure a fair trial for Robinson. It's also brought up a big issue involving the...

• 1:46:54Patrick Bet-David?

  What did it say? Is it anyone in the trial or all 3,000 people?

• 1:46:56Speaker 05

  So right now, from my understanding, it's all 3,000 that if anyone may be called to testify in the trial. That's why they're putting the gag order in place in order to give Tyler Robinson a fair trial and not have a tainted jury pool.

• 1:47:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it. Got it. Yeah, this is, this is the biggest assassination of our lifetime.

• 1:47:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:47:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Right? So.

• 1:47:23Speaker 03

  This is on this, I've said this before, it's on the level of MLK.

• 1:47:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I agree. I agree. The only difference with this is you got 3,000 cameras that were there, phones, to see everything that's going on and fingerprints are everywhere today versus what they used to be. Let's go to the last story before we wrap up.

• 1:47:42Speaker 03

  And they, I'm sure too, I mean, they can do the phone, like the digital pinging, all of that. So, I mean, I think the evidence is gonna say a lot and I'm actually hoping that the evidence can get out there sooner rather than later because I think it will answer questions. And I think everyone involved needs to be held accountable. But either which way, I mean, I'm not a huge fan of gag orders.

• 1:48:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, either. No, I, I would, look, I just want to find out what happened.

• 1:48:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:48:08Patrick Bet-David?

  If anybody was a bad person, let's find out and get to the bottom of it, whoever did it. Because, one, we don't know what happened with Butler. The other day, right

• 1:48:17Speaker 03

  Butler's, I'm telling you right now, Butler, that felt like an inside job. Sometimes, sometimes what it seems like is it's intentional negligence.

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• 1:49:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So is there anything we can do to find out who it was? Because some of the guys with Butler.

• 1:49:41Speaker 03

  Again, I think that that would be up to the purview of the president if he would be comfortable releasing those files, but just be cautious in that even if files were released, I don't know that we'd find the answers because we know for a fact that the evidence for the cocaine baggie was destroyed. They got rid of that. Why would you destroy that? What if that, what if that would have been anthrax? You know, like you're smuggling cocaine into the White House? What if that was anthrax? You know, it's like, just they, in my opinion, they wouldn't have destroyed it unless someone directly associated with the president.

• 1:50:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask the other question. So President Trump came out.

• 1:50:14Speaker 03

  Biden, I mean.

• 1:50:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, but President Trump just came out and said, you know, he beat me by, you know, 15 million. Do you really think if you would ask Obama that Joe Biden would have 15 million votes than him? And the only states that the African American vote was, you know, the only states that the dramatic victory was big was, you know, the, what do you call it? The seven states that mattered. All the other states, the numbers were usual to what Obama would have done. Do you think we're going to find out what happened with election in 2020?

• 1:50:42Speaker 03

  I think that the elections need to be cleaned up. Absolutely. I think that they've started to put that out, at least with OD and I and the Russiagate kind of presenting the platform for that. But I do think that there's other issues with election law reform, and then you also have the issue of illegals, et cetera. I mean, Dinesh D'Souza did a great movie on this where they're showing basically people dropping off baggies of ballots, all of that.

• 1:51:07Speaker 03

  Historically, there has been issues with elections. We know Kennedy notoriously was marked with that.

• 1:51:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Chicago, the mayor.

• 1:51:16Speaker 03

  It was a mob.

• 1:51:18Patrick Bet-David?

  The mob, the mayor.

• 1:51:19Speaker 03

  It was a mob. But it's, you know, with what President Trump does, there's always, you know, he has a unique way of being able to be like, you know, do you really believe that? And I'm sorry, but I don't believe that Obama or that Biden got more votes than Obama. I just don't. I don't think Obama believes that.

• 1:51:36Patrick Bet-David?

  What is the most likely of we're going to get to the bottom of any of these? If you were to say 9/11, 2020, Epstein, COVID, RFK, MLK, JFK? Which one we're going to find out for a fact in the next three years what happened?

• 1:51:47Speaker 03

  Probably JFK. And I say that because we've had so much come out, especially with this.

• 1:51:52Patrick Bet-David?

  So JFK's one. Which is the least likely? Come on, Anna.

• 1:51:57Speaker 03

  Probably, probably 9/11 and probably Epstein. And the reason I say that is because I'm already, and we've been trying to already reach out to people, like some of the families of 9/11 of all that were involved in suing. And even just the stuff that we were told about what the families, they said like the FBI had former knowledge, that they intentionally weren't, you know, giving information over to the families and that the families actually received information from British intelligence in regards to 9/11. All of that to say that it's just me, our task force members, depending on what they can allocate time for, because remember, we're doing this in addition to everything else we have going on in Washington, and there's a lot.

• 1:52:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I know. You guys are very busy.

• 1:52:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, so this is in addition to that, and then we only have two oversight staffers that are assigned to this. So, we then have to rely on the good graces of the agencies, declassifying authorities. I will say this, right now with Director Radcliffe at the CIA, he has done what no other CIA director has done in US history in regards to these files, in handing over specifically pertaining to JFK, MLK, and RFK, stuff that the previous directors and agencies hid from the American people. So Director Radcliffe, a lot of people don't know his background, but he was actually a member of Oversight, and then he became the ODNI, and then he became CIA Director. Cash Patel was a staffer on Oversight, became a advocate for the President, etc., and then

• 1:53:24Speaker 03

  moved into the FBI Director position. So, these people do get their start, kind of working these investigations. But also Radcliffe had also pushed for transparency on the origins of COVID-19. So, it just is a matter of time to when we can get through it. But we've been making great progress on the JFK stuff, so a lot of people are like, well, what's the historical significance of this? Why? And it's like, the American people deserve to know the truth. And if you don't have accountability for that, then ultimately, you can't hold future agencies accountable. And the flush has already begun within the intelligence communities. You saw when President Trump got elected, there was actually an article, I think it came out from CNN, that had said, "The 7th floor of the CIA is concerned about former disgruntled employees selling state secrets," which is also known as S. ... espionage because they don't like the Trump administration and you're seeing

• 1:54:09Speaker 03

  different intelligence agents quietly being dismissed from the FBI etc. Because of the fact that they're either undermining, stonewalling, or in some instances destroying evidence as we've seen. So I think that there's a lot of that, but all that to say, instead of complaining about it on the internet and going on X and saying how shitty Congress is, do something about it, run for office, get involved, but do not just complain about it because if you are, you're part of the problem.

• 1:54:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, that kudos to you because you're actually doing that. Have you, have you gotten a call from anybody to say, hey, Anna, we love you, we like you, you're a future star, you're doing great things? Leave this story alone.

• 1:54:44Speaker 03

  Which one?

• 1:54:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I will let you answer that one. Has anyone called you and said, just the fact that you say which one, that means you've gotten a call. Well, let me ask you this way. Have you gotten a call about JFK saying, leave this one alone?

• 1:54:58Speaker 03

  No, I get, I get a lot of inquiries though as to how the hell I got the documents. That's like a big one. People were like, how did you?

• 1:55:05Patrick Bet-David?

  That's crazy.

• 1:55:06Speaker 03

  Get the documents from Russia. And it started with a phone call and I met with them and I was the first member of Congress, it was me, Andy Ogles and Eric Burleson. They're the only ones that would come with me. The first member of Congress from the night, since the 90s that met with the Russian delegate, or Russian, Russian ambassador. And because I support what President Trump is doing in regards to peace, I'm also going to be meeting with the special envoy to the President of Russia to discuss peace. That's not, you know, like a lot of people try to just brand me as like some idiot and I'm not. And so that's fine. They can roll with that, but I mean.

• 1:55:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Who says that though?

• 1:55:44Speaker 03

  I, I think it's just, the left likes to try to paint me as like some like MAGA idiot, but I'm not. And so it's okay. They can lean into that because I'm actually making moves. It's fine. But on the flip side, you actually have, you know, this real implication that if we are able to secure a peace deal, that's a multi-trillion dollar trade deal that's going to drastically help everyone in the world, but especially the people of this country.

• 1:56:06Patrick Bet-David?

  And you know, you also nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

• 1:56:08Speaker 03

  I did.

• 1:56:09Patrick Bet-David?

  The whole thing. I saw that as well.

• 1:56:10Speaker 03

  I did. And even specifically on the Gaza-Israel issue, actually I just got this sent to me. I'll read it. This actually was just posted in regards to Eric Cortez, Cortez, Cortez, who's a Time Magazine reporter. He said, during my latest interview with President Trump, he made clear to Netanyahu the consequences if he capitulates to extremists in his coalition and moves to annex the West Bank. Israel will lose all of its support. From the United States if that happens. So President Trump, you know, a lot of people have tried to say that he's controlled and he's not. And when people do that, that is such a cop out response because, well, look at what he's doing. He is holding people accountable. No other president's been able to do that. So, you know, I trust him more in foreign policy than any other member of Congress and any other, you know, pundit or

• 1:56:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I do as well. And by the way, that's big. That was just announced like right now?

• 1:56:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'll show you. It's, um, you can pull it up right now and you should show it to your viewers. It's on E R I C C O R T E L L E S S A. Yep, right there, first one. That's just posted. Go down. There you go.

• 1:57:10Patrick Bet-David?

  That one?

• 1:57:10Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:57:12Patrick Bet-David?

  During my latest interview with President Trump, he made it clear to Netanyahu the consequence if he capitulates to extremists in his coalition and moves to annex

• 1:57:19Speaker 03

  The West Bank.

• 1:57:20Patrick Bet-David?

  The West Bank, Israel would lose all of its support. I love that. I love.

• 1:57:24Speaker 03

  But that's what I'm saying. So many people were advocating for this peace deal not to work out and trying to say that he's controlled. And it's like, you know, they are not the ones, it's like that famous poem, "The Man in the Arena." They're not there. They're not seeing the backroom conversations and discussions. And this is the type of foreign policy we need, accountability.

• 1:57:42Patrick Bet-David?

  So did anybody call you, tell you, "Leave Epstein alone"?

• 1:57:45Speaker 03

  Hmm, I definitely got chirped at, but I also too know that at the end of the day, I have to be able to answer for my decisions in Congress to God. And so I will continue to push for transparency on that. And I, to be clear, have been the only member of Congress that did it.

• 1:58:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Did Pam Bondi call you, tell you, "Leave this one alone"?

• 1:58:08Speaker 03

  No, Pam Bondi did not call me. But it is interesting that when this became politically convenient, how it quickly was aimed to smear the president when in actuality, he was probably the cleanest politician involved in all this. Yeah. And not, not involved in the sense that he was directly, but related to it.

• 1:58:26Patrick Bet-David?

  If, if you, okay, so let me ask the last question on this, and then I'm going to show you the clip because I think Rob found a clip of me talking, "Turning point, USA needs some Hispanics." I think he found it.

• 1:58:34Speaker 03

  Oh, really? You found one?

• 1:58:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so if, if you got a call, and the call is, "Anna, we love you. You're amazing. Your talent. We got your back, but..."

• 1:58:49Patrick Bet-David?

  There is secrets, then there's secrets, then there's secrets. Can we trust you on the inner of the inner of the inner circle? You come in. Okay, great. I'm painting a good picture.

• 1:58:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:58:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Stay with me here.

• 1:58:57Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:58:58Patrick Bet-David?

  And it says, look,

• 1:59:01Patrick Bet-David?

  here's what could happen if we release the files. If you've noticed, Clintons have left us alone, Obamas have left us alone. Everybody's left us alone. We could keep the White House Republican for the next 16 years. But in order to do so, all of those things are true about all these guys, but if we release them, we lose leverage with them. We gotta keep this to ourselves, and I know it's not because all these kids were taking advantage of all this other stuff. But we cannot release this. What would you say?

• 1:59:33Speaker 03

  My politically correct statement, or?

• 1:59:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, you're Anna Paulina Luna. You're from Venice. You're, you're a tough, you know.

• 1:59:39Speaker 03

  I would say go, go F yourself.

• 1:59:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Would you really? You would?

• 1:59:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, because I think because ultimately, these people won't go to jail. But there's still this aspect, like, I'll give you an example, the Diddy, the Diddy stuff. Everyone knows what P Diddy did. Do you think P Diddy's gonna be at cocktail parties now and every, no, no one wants anything to do with P Diddy. Right? Um, did he deserve the sentencing that he got? I think that they should have given him a harsher sentence. You saw what he did to Kathy.

• 2:00:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Four years.

• 2:00:08Speaker 03

  He beat, he beat the heck out of her. I mean, like, the guy's a creep.

• 2:00:11Patrick Bet-David?

  And the fact that CNN kept that for all those years, since whatever year they had it, they didn't release that clip. If I'm not mistaken, that asked, asked it for a long time, and then all of a sudden appears out of nowhere.

• 2:00:21Speaker 03

  But, um, your question was very hypothetical, and that's probably why they won't give me subpoena authority. So I have to get creative, because they do not give me subpoena authority.

• 2:00:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I think that's why, because, because the benefit of being raw, innocent, and new, you're actually doing it for the right reasons. And.

• 2:00:39Speaker 03

  And not wanting to do it long term.

• 2:00:41Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's the biggest thing, that you don't do it for long term. Statesmen, like you said earlier, guys would come in. I'm sure you've seen the Hillsdale courses that they have, and you go through and you his, read the history of all the stuff that happened. You know what was the best part about Charlie's memorial? When Larry Arnn was on stage, and he says, if anybody wants to compete with Charlie, he went through the Hillsdale's courses 31 times. 31 times when he was at that event, but this is, is this the clip, Rob?

• 2:01:06Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 2:01:06Speaker 03

  Oh, man, you're probably responsible for him recruiting me.

• 2:01:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let's see this one.

• 2:01:10Speaker 03

  So you're the reason I didn't go to medical school.

• 2:01:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Mom is upset.

• 2:01:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:01:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I became a lawyer. I wanted her to go become a doctor. Let me see if this is it.

• 2:01:18Speaker 03

  I'd love to hear your opinion of it.

• 2:01:20Patrick Bet-David?

  So my question for you would be the following. So this is where I struggle with this. And this is where I think America is having a hard time with this. You're white. Your parents are, I'm assuming they're American?

• 2:01:31Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:01:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. At 7th grade, you ask your parents what you are, they say Republican. You're an October 14th baby. You're certain, I mean 18, but you're a determined guy. You're gonna figure this thing out. You're gonna go out there and, you know, once you get sold out to a concept, you're gonna stick to it, right?

• 2:01:47Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 2:01:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, now, let's take you out. I'm here. Everybody's white here. I was telling them earlier, everybody I look at here, they're all white.

• 2:01:53Speaker 03

  No, that's not true.

• 2:01:54Patrick Bet-David?

  90%.

• 2:01:55Speaker 03

  That's not true. He's so dumb there.

• 2:01:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch, yeah, he is.

• 2:01:58Speaker 03

  He's like, that's like when I met him a year later.

• 2:02:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do we have commercials on this round?

• 2:02:02Speaker 03

  And what is base 44? Get that out of here. We have 45 Latinos and 20 African-Americans.

• 2:02:08Patrick Bet-David?

  No problem. And how many total people do you have here?

• 2:02:10Speaker 03

  About 1,000.

• 2:02:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, that's 10% is Latino and is African-American. But that's fine. My point to you is, I can see an easier argument to go to the traditional Caucasian, Christian church, family, all this stuff. Great. And they'll be turned on by it because they grew up in a family like that. And there's nothing wrong with that. Listen, I came to, I'm a proud American. I served in the military, 101st Airborne. I'm a capitalist. I'm an entrepreneur. There's nothing about it that I'm against.

• 2:02:38Speaker 03

  He was like a baby there. Yeah, that's how I remember Charlie.

• 2:02:41Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a stud. Philosophies. How do you reach out to the kid that's 19 years old, Hispanic, grew up in a family that doesn't believe in capitalism, that doesn't believe in this stuff, that believes in socialism? I can't believe we have this cliff rock. You can pause it at this point. This is...

• 2:02:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're the reason.

• 2:02:58Patrick Bet-David?

  June 21st of 20... You should hear his answer. June 17th, June 21st, 2017. By the way, look how many views the interview has. At that time, we were small channels, 16,000 views.

• 2:03:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, so he literally recruited me less than a year later. So this is full circle. This is a quantum breadcrumb. That's what I like to call it.

• 2:03:14Patrick Bet-David?

  How wild is that? So last but not least, the story with UAPs, right? And unidentified.

• 2:03:21Speaker 03

  Aerial phenomenon.

• 2:03:22Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. They change it up on us all the time. So there's this new documentary that's coming out that I saw.

• 2:03:29Speaker 03

  I'm in it.

• 2:03:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You're in it as well. Marco Rubio, a bunch of other guys. Alizando, I think, is also in it. A few other people are in it. If you want to play the clip, Rob, go ahead and play the clip.

• 2:03:37Speaker 03

  The age of disclosure.

• 2:03:38Patrick Bet-David?

  The age of disclosure.

• 2:03:39Speaker 03

  The producer will be happy you're talking about this.

• 2:03:41Patrick Bet-David?

  It's good.

• 2:03:41Speaker 04

  We have repeated instances of something operating in the airspace over restricted nuclear facilities. And it's not ours.

• 2:03:49Speaker 03

  These are otherworldly things that are performing maneuvers that haven't been seen.

• 2:03:58Speaker 03

  I have seen with my own eyes, non-human craft and non-human beings.

• 2:04:05Speaker 03

  This is so secret. There have been very few people in our entire government that have been allowed or provided access to it. Even presidents have been operating on a need-to-know basis, but that begins to ramp out of control. It's not acceptable to have secret parts of government that no one ever sees.

• 2:04:26Speaker 03

  People have been hurt protecting and hiding this information. Some people claim it would cost them their lives if they spoke out about these things. You had information being locked away that could change the trajectory for species.

• 2:04:44Patrick Bet-David?

  We can pause it around. November 21st, this is coming out.

• 2:04:47Speaker 03

  It'll be available on Amazon Prime, and you can see it in Tampa.

• 2:04:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Great. Fantastic. So while we're seeing this, okay? And, you know, everything that's being said about this. One of Rogan's biggest podcasts that he, I think it's his biggest podcast, bigger than President Trump. I think it's Lazar and Jeremy. I want to say it's last name Corbell, right? I'm sure you've seen this.

• 2:05:09Speaker 03

  I know Lazar. I know Corbell. I've heard of Lazar.

• 2:05:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so Lazar is like the one that only comes out with Corbell. Like if Corbell is not Lazar, typically he doesn't want to come out and talk to anybody. Right there, if you look at it.

• 2:05:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, Corbell's been very helpful with some of our stuff.

• 2:05:21Patrick Bet-David?

  65 million views is what that podcast did. Here's what he had to say, where some people watch this. Guys I had on, when I had Alessandro on, I cannot tell you how many text messages I got from people who are former CIA or some of the guys that are in. Let me tell you, I don't trust this guy, I don't this, I don't. I'm like, look, I'm just having a conversation with the guy. I'm not sitting here saying anything. I'm not endorsing him. Here's what Corbelle had to say. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:05:48Speaker 04

  So UFOs are real? And they've been here a long time? And that's the truth.

• 2:05:55Speaker 04

  But the lie is coming.

• 2:05:59Speaker 04

  All indications, like all of them,

• 2:06:05Speaker 04

  is that that lie is going to be that there is a craft slowly making its way to us here on Earth.

• 2:06:16Speaker 04

  And that is the lie they're going to want you to believe.

• 2:06:22Speaker 04

  It's nuanced, how they explain that, the nature of that threat. But that 100 fucking percent is the lie you are going to be told. You even got a date. People have been whispering a date for a long time now. I know where that lie comes from. I know specifically what document from the 70s initiated the idea of that lie. A classified document, that is the lie you will be told. You're going to be told that there is a craft on its way to Earth. That's the lie.

• 2:07:03Speaker 04

  Maybe I'm wrong.

• 2:07:07Speaker 04

  I hope I'm wrong.

• 2:07:10Speaker 04

  I sent you two texts today with a year. Not from me.

• 2:07:18Speaker 04

  Nope. I'm not going to propagate that lie.

• 2:07:21Patrick Bet-David?

  So, who do we believe in?

• 2:07:24Speaker 03

  Look, I have seen some interesting stuff on this task force, and I'm not the only one. So Tim Burchett's been in this game a lot longer than I have. Eric Burleson is helping with setting up the UAP stuff because again, we do this in between our other investigations and our other work. But this is again, one of the biggest bipartisan and bicameral topics in Congress currently. And if you look up the video that was just played at our last hearing that we did, it was on the Hellfire missile being deflected by one of these UAPs. That specifically, I think, should for national security reasons, have everyone questioning what we were really being told about these things.

• 2:08:07Speaker 03

  We are also denied access by the Department of War to certain footage and oversight. I'd actually put this out, or we put it out in a statement in regards to...

• 2:08:17Patrick Bet-David?

  This guy?

• 2:08:18Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yep. Deflect. We actually entered that in the congressional... United States government arsenal that can split a Hellfire. Yeah. So that was taken from an MQ-9 off the coast of Africa. And this footage was dead dropped to Eric Burleson, and then he played it in the hearing. But the point is, is that this information was not shown with members of Congress. We've been, and I always tell the historical story now infamous on the Eglin Air Force Base incident where me, Burchett, and Matt Gaetz had gone to follow up on inquiry from pilots that had come to Representative Gaetz's office, saying that the Air Force was covering UAP activity off the coast of Eglin Air Force Base in the Panhandle.

• 2:08:59Speaker 03

  And as a result of that, I mean, they had a lot of egg on their face. I mean, this got into basically a pitching, a pissing match between the legislative branch and the Department of Defense at the time under Lloyd Austin in regards to whether they could cancel our meetings. The commander of the base left in the middle of our hearing, like of our field hearing basically there, took off and left to go on leave. I've never, like, have you ever heard of a base commander just leaving in the middle of a congressional delegation? Never, ever. He gets up in the middle of our conversation.

• 2:09:29Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is...

• 2:09:30Speaker 03

  This is Eglin Air Force Base. This is the commanding, the base commander.

• 2:09:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Could you give the name or no?

• 2:09:35Speaker 03

  I don't remember the name off the top of my head.

• 2:09:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, so it's not like it's not public. It's public, Betty?

• 2:09:39Speaker 03

  Well, we publicly went public with what happened because the Air Force tried to stonewall us in regards to following up all these investigations into UAPs. And this was under the Biden administration. So this is starting in 2022. But, long story short, in the middle of our hearing, he basically gets up and leave it, gets up and leaves, and then he sent his kind of second in command to handle us, if you will. So me, Gates, and Burchett. I remember Burchett told the commanding officer, he goes, "You can do this the easy way or the hard way, buddy. You have a member of House Armed Services here, two members of Oversight, and if you don't do it here, we're going to call you up to Washington to testify in front of Congress. You can explain yourself to the American people then." But they wouldn't let us talk to any of the pilots except for one, and then saw some interesting stuff.

• 2:10:20Speaker 03

  And so what I'll tell you is, that footage, the fact that it was dead dropped to Burleson, I'm certain that there's more of where that comes from, and we are going to push for the declassification of stuff that we've seen, because I think the American people deserve to see it. But I think, you know, you're never going to have the US government admit or try to explain something if it's also somewhat not specifically pertaining to national defense. So if like, it's not tech that we've made, not involving a foreign government, I think that you're going to see a direct statement from that. What's interesting, and I kind of went into this with Joe Rogan, is when we were talking to some of the witnesses, they don't call them extraterrestrial. They call them interdimensional.

• 2:11:06Speaker 03

  There's also this aspect of these things defying physics as we know it, and then you look into texts that were removed from the Bible, like the Book of Enoch, that actually specifically address technologies, if you will, that were given to mankind, or of entities not of human origin, non-human intelligence. So, these are all things to consider when addressing the topic, but based on what I've seen, not speculating based on the evidence that I've seen, there is something out there. And based on what I'm saying is it's not-

• 2:11:36Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the craziest thing you've seen?

• 2:11:37Speaker 03

  I think that it's along the lines of those, that video that you just saw.

• 2:11:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Have they shown you, okay, so-

• 2:11:45Speaker 03

  I have to be careful, because I- I could get in trouble if I divulge what I've been shown in a SCIF. So what I can tell you is I'm just telling you as me not specifically addressing SCIF stuff that they're real. And I'm not the only one. You just saw the Secretary of State in a documentary addressing the same thing.

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• 2:13:12Speaker 03

  I know, it's a, it's a, it's a mind loop, right? But like Pinellas County, where I specifically represent, there's actually a high number of these reported sightings. But it's not just there. A lot of the members on the task force or that gavel into this, first of all, it's bipartisan and bicameral. Like we've had, pretty much everyone's like circulated at one point, right? Through task questions and whatnot. But members in Alaska, the member of Alaska specifically has a lot of reports of this. People that, you know, represent these areas, when you get calls to the office, I've seen a lot of kooky stuff too, that I know that's like crazy, like provably false, that's AI, CGI, whatever. But then you have the stuff that you can't explain. And then you have the attacks on the witnesses that come forward to testify, which if it wasn't real, why would you try to be discrediting someone?

• 2:13:56Speaker 03

  And why is the Department of the VA leaking people's records to the press if it's not real? Right? It's like if you, you know, if you're being told not to look under that rock. You might look into the rock. And so that actually happened to David Gresh when he came forward to testify is his medical records were leaked to the press.

• 2:14:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I, I, and for me, I mean, I'm a math guy. So basics of math, what do we not know a lot about? We don't know 95% of what's in the ocean. And we don't know.

• 2:14:25Speaker 03

  The ocean's super scary.

• 2:14:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, that's, that's.

• 2:14:27Speaker 03

  The stuff we hear about USOs.

• 2:14:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:14:29Speaker 03

  That's a separate topic.

• 2:14:30Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a separate topic.

• 2:14:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:14:31Patrick Bet-David?

  But, and when you look up, you're like, what's out there? Anything. What's possible, what's capable? There's so many different things that we can be thinking about. So that's one. But then if, if, if, if we go back to COVID and think about how the virus came in and they scared the crap out of everybody.

• 2:14:48Speaker 03

  Well, we're gonna, I mean, sorry to interrupt you. I'm just gonna jump in. Hundred percent, I believe, released by China as a bio warfare weapon. Hundred percent. They started, they locked up our, our trade, our chain of supplies to be able to actually fight it. They.

• 2:15:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Hundred percent.

• 2:15:04Speaker 03

  They started hitting us months out prior. Remember, do you remember the social programming that was taking place on Snapchat with the masks? Do you remember that? Little kids were putting on these masks and it was a filter. That was like a year and a half out from COVID where people could put the filters on. You're completely desensitizing a population to wearing masks. You guys don't remember the Snapchat masks?

• 2:15:22Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't remember the mask thing.

• 2:15:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, type it, look, look, do you see the little bear mask? Filter? This was like on Snapchat for a while. People were doing the masks. Okay, so like, just listen. So you're, you're setting up a population.

• 2:15:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Type in when it, when they started.

• 2:15:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, when they started that. It was like 2017, I remember, like when Snapchat really started, it was like a thing. But it wasn't just that. Then you also too started having, um, you know, the infiltration of these videos painting it out to be this deadly disease when we know now that the survivability rate of COVID was really high. So then you saw this like almost dystopian power play with different people, local, I mean, it was crazy. But then you look at what China did trying to pull the same crap here when Trump got elected again. He didn't do it under, they didn't do it under Biden. You see in Michigan, you have reports, this happened twice. You had spies coming in with bio aggro terrorism weapons to try to release them on our ag supply to kill and make our people sick. That happened

• 2:16:17Speaker 03

  multiple times out of Michigan from the Chinese government. No one's talking about that. It happened multiple times in the same way that they tried to release that crap with COVID. So I keep saying it, Chi, and like China is an absolute threat. If you don't think it's a threat, you're not paying attention. If you don't think China wants to be number one and get us out of the way, you have not been paying attention.

• 2:16:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So you trust Russia more than you trust China?

• 2:16:40Speaker 03

  I, I'm not saying that I trust anyone. I only trust the United States. But what I will say is that as far as the threat matrix is concerned, I think China's a way bigger threat.

• 2:16:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So, so to me, these two stories, you know, had a Jada Pinkett moment, but they entangled, they, they, they just entangled. But she used that phrase entanglement. I don't know if you remember that or not. But so the two stories, so let's go to the alien side. The alien side, one side for me is, all right, they're going to use the whole fear porn of, let me tell you what's coming. We have to shut it down. Everybody needs to stay inside. What Jeremy Corbell is saying, it sounds realistic that a administration could do that to get what they want and whatever that may be. This is why we need to do this. And this is why we need to do that. I like that he's putting it out there that other people can be like, all right, if it happens, we got to be ready for it, especially nowadays with the AI and the videos that they're making. And it's incredibly-

• 2:17:34Speaker 03

  Well, there's also drone technology. So like, a lot of this stuff can be explained with drones. A lot of it can be explained with AI. But then there's the stuff that you can't explain. And that's the stuff that we're interested in trying to declassify and pushing for declassification. But also, we've been straight up denied access. So you're saying that members of Congress don't have access, but we're writing the checks. So do we live in a truly free and fair society if members of Congress can't provide oversight on that? Because ultimately, we're the advocates for the American people. This is a bipartisan issue. But I think that people don't like talking about it because there's been a stigma created on it by our own government under, you know, decades following Roswell.

• 2:18:10Speaker 03

  Under decades under Roswell that have ultimately resulted in people thinking specifically of the baby boomer generation era that it's a crazy topic to discuss. We have people that are more, you know, Gen X and onward that are like, okay, there might be something out there. But Dr. Avi Loeb actually puts it best. He's a Harvard astrophysicist. He says, why are we busy looking for, you know, little single celled organisms on Mars when we can be looking for a house with people in it? And I think, you know, I don't care what religion you are in the world, it talks about other creations other than human beings. I'm a Christian, so I have a biblical perspective on this, and you can fill in the gaps on that. But what I think is that it would be pretty naive to think that we are the only

• 2:18:53Speaker 03

  creation in this galaxy, let alone the universe.

• 2:19:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm with that. And I'm not what that's not with that. It's how it's going to be used for us. Can you actually ask for them to allow you to go to Area 51 or no?

• 2:19:08Speaker 03

  We've asked. Burleson actually got permission for us to go, but there's nothing at Area 51. I think Area 51, first of all, aside from radioactive potentially water, Area 51 would not be where they would be like housing this information. I do think that there's a massive amount of information being housed at the Department of War, specifically siloed from Congress that involves certain footage, whatever it might be. Actually, Tucker Carlson, when he was on Fox News, he actually had pulled up, he actually showed declassified videos of those flying triangles. Do you remember that? Can you pull that up just to show? Because to be clear, this was declassified out of the Pentagon. So when people try to say that I'm pushing kooky theories, really? Because I'm just talking about what the evidence is already out there. I'm just asking the questions.

• 2:19:55Patrick Bet-David?

  The triangle?

• 2:19:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, the flying triangles. Not that's a tic tac.

• 2:20:01Patrick Bet-David?

  No, if you go lower, you'll find it.

• 2:20:03Speaker 03

  Go lower, you'll probably find it. Yeah, you'll probably find it if you go lower.

• 2:20:07Speaker 03

  Or you could type in like Pentagon, um, pyramids and see if that pops up.

• 2:20:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna do the same thing on X.

• 2:20:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, there it is Pentagon. Oh, you just had it. It's okay, right there.

• 2:20:21Speaker 05

  That's Fox, not Tucker, though.

• 2:20:24Speaker 03

  Well, he had it on his show, but I knew it would probably populate on the search. But yeah, so like this has all been declassified out of our own government, plenty of religions around the world. Talk about this stuff. So I simply think that we're just, you know, talking about stuff that humanity probably already knows.

• 2:20:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, do you think it's gonna come a time where, you know, there could be a possible attack? Like a warning, hey, the world be ready to?

• 2:20:51Speaker 03

  What's been interesting on, so I think that this gets into, like, you're always gonna have the possibility of people taking things and using them for their own power gain. I think that politics and governments, big governments, tend to be very narcissistic and egocentric and self-driven in that sense. So of course, that's always a concern, but I think the real question you should be asking is, does this confirm what it talked about in the Book of Enoch? And I would really advise people to read that, and I think that it's interesting that it was taken out of the Bible. It was around, I think it was the fourth or fifth century that it was removed.

• 2:21:32Speaker 03

  But that even in our modern day, very watered down version of the Bible, that it still references Enoch. And so when you read the Book of Enoch, and I've read it now three times, it's very interesting what it discusses regarding the technologies, etc., fallen angels, all of that. So all that to say that, you know, we ask questions and we have the conversation where previous congresses have not been able to do that.

• 2:22:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Enoch, because when I think of Enoch, I think about one of only two characters in the Bible that never died, and they were taken.

• 2:22:08Speaker 03

  Enoch would have been one of them.

• 2:22:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, Enoch is one of them that was taken.

• 2:22:12Speaker 03

  You have to read-

• 2:22:13Patrick Bet-David?

  And it's a debate. Some say one, some say two, but Enoch is typically on that list.

• 2:22:16Speaker 03

  Well, you have to read the Book of Enoch, and what's interesting is you have the Ethiopian Orthodox Church that actually maintains the full canon, books of the Bible. There's 88 in total. The Catholic Bible is even different than the modern day King James Bible. A lot of people are like, well, what's the difference? You know the story, you want to get remarried, rewrite the Bible, then you have the Church of England. So I'm not saying that, you know, if you read one Bible, you're not going to be able to access Jesus. That's a very personal relationship. I think that people have been able to find Jesus in very dark circumstances and they're saved. And that's ultimately what, you know, as Christians, if you are, you know, talking about it and being able to just say like, hey, there's salvation available. That's kind of where you lead into, right?

• 2:22:57Speaker 03

  But it's just whenever you have historically people trying to hide information, it's usually for nefarious reasons. And so that's why I've been so inclined to tell people to read this book.

• 2:23:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Who do we have on that was debated Wes Huff and it was the end of it, Billy?

• 2:23:16Speaker 05

  Billy Carson.

• 2:23:17Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about Billy Carson?

• 2:23:18Speaker 03

  I don't know Billy Carson.

• 2:23:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 2:23:20Speaker 03

  I've heard a little, I've heard a little bit about Wes Huff. A lot of people will try to say that though the book of Enoch specifically is not legitimate. And I would actually argue that that's completely like contrary to what the Bible sets up. If you actually read through the entire thing and see what it talks about.

• 2:23:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you ever talk to Charlie about this or no?

• 2:23:39Speaker 03

  I never talked to Charlie about this. Interesting though, Charlie did, I think, upload a video of a UAP sighting he had. And so I never was able to address it with him. But specifically on this, you know, when my dad, so prior to my dad really embracing Messianic Judaism, he kind of started looking into, you know, we were going to Calvary Chapel, looking into like how the Bible had been really changed and how the modern day church was forgetting a lot of the tradition of the past. That just because Jesus came didn't necessarily mean that you were totally to forget the previous teachings of the Old Testament.

• 2:24:17Speaker 03

  And so it's been interesting because this has provided, I think, a lot of context for why I have the views that I do specifically on these topics. But all that to say that I do think that it proves with this footage that if this is not foreign governments, if this is not created by us. Then it does confirm what the Bible talks about of there being other creations. I'm not saying that these things are good or bad, right? But according to our witness statements, I mean, George Knapp allegedly smuggled out, and we admitted them to the Congressional Record, documents out of the Soviet Union, which I joke that George Knapp probably deserves a star at Langley for this because how he got these documents as opposed to the CIA is interesting.

• 2:25:02Speaker 03

  But it allegedly talks about a program that the Soviet government had stood up to actually investigate UAPs because they had activated their nuclear weapon silo and had almost launched missiles and then shut them down right away. And it was known as Thread 3. So those records have been entered into the archives so that people can pull them up and look at them themselves. It's not a question of whether or not it's happening. It's happening. The question is, what is it? And I think that that's up to people, whether or not they're going to look at it from a religious or a secular standpoint. Wild.

• 2:25:37Patrick Bet-David?

  That is wild. But George Knapp, it says, what? He's the one that brought into prominence Pablo Zarn 89?

• 2:25:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, so George Knapp was an investigative journalist in Las Vegas, still lives there today, works with Jeremy Corbell. He's not, he is literally one of the subject matter experts on this because of his work in journalism and what they've been able to sift through. And he testified at our last hearing. But he was not a firsthand witness to this. We did have witnesses that were firsthand witnesses to UAPs. You can actually pull up the Vandenberg Air Force Base witness testimony. He testified to us at our last hearing. We also had an active-duty member of the Navy testify and then also a former member of security forces. Yep. Jeffrey Nussetelli. Yep. So we actually, the Vandenberg Red Square, that was a particularly interesting one because

• 2:26:29Speaker 03

  it appeared over Vandenberg Air Base and was about the size of a football field or more. And they actually have, if you hear the testimony, you can hear it.

• 2:26:41Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. So this isn't fear porn. This isn't...

• 2:26:46Speaker 03

  No, I think you just have to look at it through a very, you know, it puts it in perspective as to our position in the world and the universe if there's life after death, you know. It makes you question, you know, is God real? I definitely think God is real. So if God is real, then it's possible that, you know, the Bible's also a truthful document, which in that case would explain all this.

• 2:27:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this it? This is a...

• 2:27:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, you can hear it. Yeah.

• 2:27:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Ryan.

• 2:27:17Speaker 03

  For News at Telly, I'm a former military police officer with 16 years of active duty service in the US Air Force. I'm here today because the American people have both the right and the responsibility to know the truth about unidentified aerial phenomenon. That truth remains hidden, classified, and silenced by fear, retaliation, stigma, and confusion. Today, we are here to help break that silence. Between 2003 and 2005, five UAP incidents occurred at Vandenberg Air Force Base, home to the National Missile Defense Project, a top national security priority. At the time, we were conducting launches deemed by the National Reconnaissance Office

• 2:28:01Speaker 03

  as the most important in 25 years. These were historic launches. These facilities were vital, and they were repeatedly visited by UAP. Each incident was witnessed by multiple personnel, documented, investigated, and reported up the chain of command. We sent information up, but we got no guidance down on how to handle these events. I personally witnessed one of these events and investigated others as they occurred. Six other service members have provided me with the information that I will share with you today.

• 2:28:40Speaker 03

  The incursions began on October 14th, 2003, when Boeing contractors reported a massive glowing red square silently hovering over two missile defense sites. After several minutes, it drifted further east onto the base and vanished over the hills. This event, now known as the Vandenberg Red Square, was referenced by Representative Luna at the first hearing on this topic. Official Air Force records of this event are in possession by Arrow and the FBI. Later that night, while I was on duty, security guards at a critical launch site reported a bright, fast-moving object over the ocean. I responded to the incident.

• 2:29:24Speaker 03

  Chaos ensued over the radio as the object approached rapidly. I heard my friends screaming, "It's coming right at us, it's coming right for us, and now it's right here." Moments later, I heard them say that it had shot off and was gone. When I arrived on scene, I talked to five shaken witnesses who described a massive triangular craft, larger than a football field, that hovered silently for about 45 seconds over their entry control point before shooting away at impossible speed. About a week later, another patrol reported a light over the ocean behaving erratically. Believing it might be an unannounced aircraft, they declared an emergency, and an armed

• 2:30:07Speaker 03

  response force responded. Before the forces could arrive, the object descended and either landed or hovered on our flight line, and then took off again at impossible speed. The witnesses to this event were threatened and intimidated afterward. They were told to keep quiet and think about what they were reporting. After that, things did get quiet. Hey, listen! Power up your play with Nintendo Switch 2 and experience Link's legendary adventure, now reborn in vibrant detail on our fastest and most powerful system yet. And harness the power of the Ocarina with the built-in microphone.

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• 2:31:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so that's, that looks like, I don't know if you remember the movie Independence Day that came out in the 90s?

• 2:31:45Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh, Will Smith, how could I forget? Welcome to Earth, you punched an alien.

• 2:31:48Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 2:31:51Patrick Bet-David?

  That's six, seven years later after that. He didn't seem like a bullshit artist, this Nusso Tali guy.

• 2:31:58Speaker 03

  We do extensive background and vetting into the witnesses. And we obviously also asked for their military credentials, all of that. He also had other witnesses that could back up his story. But he's not the only one. We've heard this from many, many members of the military. Sometimes they can provide footage, or they have privately shown us footage. What's interesting is too, is that specifically with the Navy guys, this aspect of USOs, there's a lot that we don't know about the ocean. But when you're getting reports that these things are outpacing our nuclear subs by like sometimes 200 to 300 miles underwater, I don't know anything that can go that fast. So, all that to say that, yes, it is of concern, right?

• 2:32:43Speaker 03

  First question is, is this a foreign adversary? Is this an advanced tech? But historically, there's been a lot of questions and secrecy surrounding this. So much so that you have to know it's real because of the obstacles that throw themselves in your way when you ask questions or being denied access to the information. But specifically on things that we've seen, yeah.

• 2:33:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, the question becomes, can we build something like that? Like before, before even going in, thinking, you know, a UAP or something like, go back to that picture you had, Rob. You know, can we build a, whatever you want to call that? Go back to the picture that you had between the two of them. Yeah.

• 2:33:24Speaker 03

  I think that it's like giving a caveman a cellphone. I think that our understanding of physics and what we know currently, I don't know that we have the materials or capability to develop it at that point in time. Not to say that we can't in the future, but it's just there's a lot that, you know, even if you look at a cellphone from 10 years ago, how primitive is that? And these things are operating, you know, against everything that we currently know. And so it's interesting, there's a lot of people from all walks of life, very successful, very wealthy, that are asking the same questions. And it's funny because, you know, the stigma in Congress when we first did our hearing was, you're going to ruin your political career, you shouldn't be asking these questions, blah, blah.

• 2:34:07Speaker 03

  To it being the most widely attended congressional hearing in US history. And then, you know, you're now having more people come forward. But what's been interesting is we have been directly told by multiple witnesses that they don't want to testify because they're in fear of losing their lives, of which we've had other people we wanted to bring in. And they have literally said that they don't want to risk it. And then we have had an instance that happened with David Grush to where he was coming in to testify, or not to testify, but coming in to do a video skiff conference with Burleson and I. And on the way in, he had a very weird incident that happened that I've never, you know, it's like very coincidental timing, where someone actually pulled a firearm on him as he was driving in.

• 2:34:51Speaker 03

  So, and he also too was worried about retribution. He'd been messed with extensively after he testified, even leading up to that testimony. So, yeah, we definitely know that our witnesses are putting a lot on the line by coming forward. And so that would also to push for like, we need UAP disclosure. But every time we try to put it into the NDAA, it gets gutted, for whatever reason.

• 2:35:13Patrick Bet-David?

  By who?

• 2:35:14Speaker 03

  But it's usually the staff that's taking it out, for whatever reason. These like little, I call them little trouble goblins. They pop up and they'll gut the legislation for disclosure.

• 2:35:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Who tells them to do that?

• 2:35:24Speaker 03

  I think it's a lot with the intelligence community, 100% or DOD, whoever's. It's definitely internal though, because there have been, Representative Burchett tried to come up with an FA reporting procedure for the UAP. They wouldn't put it on the floor. And then the UAP Disclosure Act was watered down and gutted. Schumer tried to push for that in the Senate and it was like... Completely just ruled. So there's definitely an effort, which is why I think that this Age of Disclosure movie coming out is so important because you have multiple people coming forward that have legitimate credentials. They can't just be like, oh, it's, you know, Luna talking about crazy UAPs again, or Burchett, or Burleson. It's, you know, when you have this Secretary of State up there, a little bit hard to argue with.

• 2:36:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you seen the documentary, The Lost Century by Stephen Greer? What do you think? Are you familiar with the Invention Secrecy Act of 1951? Oh, my God. I would love for you to get into that. The Invention Secrecy Act of 1951-

• 2:36:17Speaker 03

  Next he's gonna say do MKUltra next.

• 2:36:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, no, this, this is actually very important because-

• 2:36:21Speaker 03

  It's the X-Files of Congress.

• 2:36:23Patrick Bet-David?

  They actually did this. The Invention Secrecy Act of 1951 is where the federal government came in and there were guys that were building certain technologies of cars being able to run on water or different things and going 200 miles, 400 miles, 500 miles-

• 2:36:39Speaker 03

  The Teslas of the world. The real Teslas.

• 2:36:41Patrick Bet-David?

  The real Teslas of the world. And then all of a sudden getting killed or they get, they die. First of all, I highly recommend you watch the documentary for yourself.

• 2:36:48Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:36:48Patrick Bet-David?

  But the Invention Secrecy Act of 1951 is a real thing that the US government, because let's just say you have a new invention. They'll come to you and they'll say, we think this is worth $100 million. We're gonna give you $25 million and we're gonna take the patent away from you. And you don't have a choice to say yes or no. We're gonna take that away from you. And they have-

• 2:37:05Speaker 03

  I mean, I can't call the negotiator with the birthday card and say, hi, 20 million on this date.

• 2:37:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe you get a better negotiator to decide the numbers. But they have apparently 6,000 inventions that has been kept here and no one knows what the inventions are in there.

• 2:37:22Speaker 03

  There's definitely, so the way, and like, look, there's obviously information that we're developing that we don't want our adversaries to get, right? So like, obviously that should remain classified. However, when you don't have any oversight onto that, so you can't ensure that people aren't legitimately getting killed in the process of releasing this information or saying like, hey, this is not, this is not what you think it is, that's a problem. There's literally no oversight and it's operating outside the purview of any branch of government. We know that the Pentagon, up until recently, had to pass an audit in a while and that there's this issue with these defense contractors that really are operating. I mean, these people- The way that the different lobbies operate in Washington, it's literally like a cartel. People think Mexico's bad. Really, the only difference between Mexico and the United States

• 2:38:03Speaker 03

  is we wear suits. And that's really it. I mean, over there, you have like the Fisbers of the world. I mean, those are our cartels, right? But specifically with these defense contractors, they're then given government contracts, and so they're not required to answer to Congress and then who has authority to supervise that. So I think that that's how they're hiding a lot of this information. But to date, just operating on either photo or video evidence or testimony, I can definitely tell you that I am not confused on the topic. I definitely think that UAPs are real. They're not Russia or China. They're definitely not ours.

• 2:38:42Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. Well, I'm gonna do the last thing here before we wrap up. I'm gonna give you a name, you give me a word. Okay? We're gonna play a word game here together. Okay? You can say skip if you want to, but I don't think you're the skipping type. What's the one word that comes to mind when you think about Newsom?

• 2:38:58Speaker 03

  Asshole.

• 2:38:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. It's nice. Pelosi.

• 2:39:02Speaker 03

  Mean.

• 2:39:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Wikipedia.

• 2:39:04Speaker 03

  Fail.

• 2:39:05Patrick Bet-David?

  AOC.

• 2:39:09Speaker 03

  Pass.

• 2:39:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Ilhan Omar.

• 2:39:12Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 2:39:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Really? Why?

• 2:39:15Speaker 03

  I actually was on a delegation to the EU with the House Democracy Partnership Institute, and she was on that delegation. And there was a member from Belgium that was there who was a total asshole. Okay? He was saying, you know, your Congress isn't respected by your own president. He doesn't respect you guys. You guys are basically a joke. He was telling this to her delegation. And so I was kind of sparring with the guy. And then Ilhan spoke after me. She was sitting, I think, like two seats to my left. And Andy Ogles will there, Vern Buchanan, a few others. And she goes, and this like blew me away. She goes, and she looks at the guy, she goes,

• 2:40:00Speaker 03

  "You might not like what our president is doing, and you might not agree with our foreign policy, but when we're here, you will respect our president." She was talking about Trump.

• 2:40:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop it.

• 2:40:12Speaker 03

  And I, and I, so that's why I say interesting, because like when we fight together, right? On, and like, there's always this push and pull in politics, and politics is messy. But I didn't expect that, being on a delegation with a foreign government, but she said that. And I think at that point in time, when you have that type of unified front, especially in dealing with the EU, it's, was pleasantly surprising.

• 2:40:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. What was the follow-up afterward? Have you guys since then talked or?

• 2:40:48Speaker 03

  Um, she is the co-chair of the Syrian caucus that I have, or that I'm heading up now. So, and we can talk about Syria probably separately. I don't know if we have time on the podcast. But, um, so I think that, and then she actually joined, I think, on my bill to repeal the Patriot Act. But, um, you know, there's still a lot happening in Washington, so it's not like we're always talking. But I mean, I, I do have conversations with people, and that's how everyone is in DC for the most part. Um, do we agree on a lot? No. And do I like what she said about Charlie? No. Um, but I was surprised to hear that. So that's why I said interesting.

• 2:41:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you trust her?

• 2:41:30Speaker 03

  Um, I don't agree with her. And it's, politics is not about trust. It's about, and you don't ever want to make friends in politics, especially this game, because ultimately you realize that it's a very transactional field. But in that instance, I appreciated that she provided a united front to the jerk from Belgium.

• 2:41:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Good for you for giving credit, because who was it? Sergio Gore or, or something like that, at Charlie's Memorial said, "One thing about politics is the most transactional. The industry has a lot of transactional people," and it was talking about the fact that Charlie's the complete opposite.

• 2:42:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, it is super transactional. That's why it's like you don't want to get a friend in Washington, you get a dog. And it's true.

• 2:42:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you, do you, I'm curious because Charlie and I talked about this before, do you

• 2:42:24Patrick Bet-David?

  sit there and see what's going on with UK, right? Or EU?

• 2:42:27Speaker 03

  Oh, I think the UK is lost.

• 2:42:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but then do you also sit there and say, Imam Dhan, who's right now running in New York, as a Muslim, who on multiple instances where he's been asked to say whether he supports Sharia law or not, he doesn't want to answer the question multiple times. He says, look, I'm just running for mayor. I'm not here to address that issue. Does it concern you of, you know, Western ideology, you know, America, things that we've built, does it mesh with more Islamist that are getting into politics, who have strong beliefs, like Anil Hanamar, like Imam Dhan, like some of these folks? Does that concern you long term?

• 2:43:08Speaker 03

  What concerns me long term is immigrant assimilation. Remember that President Trump was endorsed by a group of Muslims prior to the election because the radical left embracing the LGBTQ pro-trans, very adamantly opposed, I think, to anything that the Christian Bible talks about, that the Quran talks about, or that the Torah talks about, they endorsed him. And a lot of people forget that. And President Trump has been able to, because of his position, negotiate with countries like Egypt to help push Hamas into negotiating to agree to the peace deal with Israel. But the question is, I think, more of assimilation

• 2:43:53Speaker 03

  than anything. Because if you have a Muslim American who's been here three terms and is Americanized versus someone that refuses to assimilate, and I think that's probably why we should actually respect and go through and encourage people to go through legally, because they have to force to assimilate. If you don't embrace American culture, then you will still continue to hold on to the values of your country that you came from. Likely, if you're in the United States, it didn't work out in that country.

• 2:44:19Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. Okay, I got five more names, and then we're done.

• 2:44:22Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:44:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Imam Dhan, one word.

• 2:44:24Speaker 03

  Grifter.

• 2:44:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Grifter?

• 2:44:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, he will, his donors, he will... Advocate and become whoever his donors want. I will say this, he is a very good branded candidate. And you can see that from his past, he's young, he has the branding. But I don't think that he's genuinely an ideologue because of his background and who he's taking money from.

• 2:44:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think he wins?

• 2:44:47Speaker 03

  I think he wins.

• 2:44:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You think he wins, okay. Zelensky.

• 2:44:52Speaker 03

  Corrupt.

• 2:44:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Putin.

• 2:44:55Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 2:44:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Another one.

• 2:44:56Speaker 03

  Another interesting. Because of what's happening on the back channel conversations. Because of his willingness to declassify these. With assisting in the Kennedy disclosure from the president. And then also Putin historically, if you look at interviews with him as to why there's been failures in foreign policy, he talks about his conversations with Clinton, his conversations with Bush. Ultimately, what he came into after the fall of the Soviet Union.

• 2:45:29Speaker 03

  He's an interesting character, but he's definitely not stupid. And he definitely can't be underestimated. And so that's why I'm happy that we have Trump in the negotiating seat right now.

• 2:45:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you and I both, he's definitely not stupid. Diddy.

• 2:45:41Speaker 03

  Evil.

• 2:45:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Crockett.

• 2:45:43Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 2:45:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Another one?

• 2:45:45Speaker 03

  I served with her on the task force as my co-chair. And I haven't had exchanges with her that have been directly attacking me. I do not like what she says about the president. But I've also seen her advocate behind the scenes for bipartisan things to get it done. So that's another interesting one. It's like when you're in DC, you realize a lot on camera and there are certain personalities that will go at it, but

• 2:46:13Speaker 03

  I don't seem to be that caricature.

• 2:46:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You're a May 6th baby, that's very interesting, the way you're answering this. Okay, Ron DeSantis.

• 2:46:21Speaker 03

  He definitely, I think, is going to be a plot twist. So we'll see what happens after the governor's race and what he does. But I think he's done incredible things for Florida and I'm happy he's my governor. So we'll see what happens with him.

• 2:46:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You and I both, MTG.

• 2:46:35Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 2:46:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Why?

• 2:46:38Speaker 03

  Well, I think that she has, you know, advocated for certain things and then on the flip side, she's kind of breaking out and advocating for other things as well. So definitely not one that, um, and I think that this is probably more needed in politics. She's not one that will just toe the party line if she genuinely doesn't believe something, she'll tell you. And I think that that's, um, whether people think it's good or bad, I think that that's needed in politics.

• 2:47:00Patrick Bet-David?

  We need, we need more of that. Yeah. Thomas Massey.

• 2:47:03Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 2:47:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Same category.

• 2:47:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, same category. I think these are all very similar personality types.

• 2:47:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. All right. Peter Thiel.

• 2:47:09Speaker 03

  Interesting. Yeah. I do. I, you guys are gonna, I can, I can tell you why. Peter Thiel. Yeah. You hear his, um, whole, what he likes to talk about on his free time. I actually really want to meet him and ask him what he talked about in his private seminar on the Antichrist. I'm curious. Like, I actually have a lot of curiosity in that topic. I think he's brilliant. I don't know him, never met him, but I'm curious as to what he has to think on that from a, a perspective. I think like a lot of these people, it's, you know, yeah.

• 2:47:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Wapo.

• 2:47:39Speaker 03

  Liars.

• 2:47:41Patrick Bet-David?

  JD.

• 2:47:42Speaker 03

  I love him.

• 2:47:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Rubio.

• 2:47:45Speaker 03

  I love him too.

• 2:47:46Patrick Bet-David?

  One of the two's gonna run. So you're gonna have to pick one of them.

• 2:47:48Speaker 03

  I don't know. I would, if I had to split it, I'd say give him up as a ticket.

• 2:47:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Together?

• 2:47:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:47:53Patrick Bet-David?

  That would be powerful.

• 2:47:54Speaker 03

  Right?

• 2:47:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my God. But then who becomes the VP?

• 2:47:57Speaker 03

  Well.

• 2:47:58Patrick Bet-David?

  I guess JD would need to be the one because he's already a VP, so he gets pumped up.

• 2:48:02Speaker 03

  I mean, that's not a bad, like, I mean, we're talking about, like, that's an option to be the vice president, who's gonna be like, no.

• 2:48:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:48:08Speaker 03

  That's not a bad gig.

• 2:48:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, Rubio is.

• 2:48:10Speaker 03

  Crushing it.

• 2:48:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my God.

• 2:48:12Speaker 03

  He's a star right now as president.

• 2:48:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Good for Rubio. Because it was different 10 years ago to Rubio. Now Rubio now is like, he's like.

• 2:48:19Speaker 03

  I think Rubio's always been severely under us. He's always like, you know, a, and there's a game that certain people like have to play in DC to like get into position. And he has like done incredible, like, in his ability to be able to be the Secretary of State and negotiate what he's negotiated. I think everyone, especially from Florida, I feel like Florida's leading the country in draft picks for Congress.

• 2:48:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:48:42Speaker 03

  And like Senate and, you know, higher office because we just have a good bench.

• 2:48:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Kevin McCarthy.

• 2:48:49Patrick Bet-David?

  He's shaking your head.

• 2:48:50Speaker 03

  No go. He worked against me in both my elections.

• 2:48:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Kevin McCarthy did?

• 2:48:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:48:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Kevin McCarthy. Interesting. Okay.

• 2:48:57Speaker 03

  I will say this. You know, I wonder sometimes if he regrets that because he definitely backed two terrible candidates. But I also wonder if it was because I was endorsed at the time by my friend Matt Gaetz. And as you know, Matt Gaetz and McCarthy have a different to personalities. But at the end of the day, I think that maybe he realized he was wrong on that, but...

• 2:49:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you talked to him?

• 2:49:23Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 2:49:25Patrick Bet-David?

  He seems like a nice guy.

• 2:49:26Speaker 03

  He's actually... What you'll find is people like Kevin McCarthy, Nancy Pelosi, some of the best politicians are very charismatic, and it's hard not to like them.

• 2:49:35Patrick Bet-David?

  You would say Pelosi's charismatic?

• 2:49:36Speaker 03

  Oh, she's very charismatic in person.

• 2:49:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 2:49:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. And a lot of... But that's the thing is like, certain people just have that charisma. It's like what they're putting out, whatever. McCarthy was like that. There's a lot of people that have that kind of draw, and you can sense it, and they're the top two.

• 2:49:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Two last one. Pam Bondi.

• 2:49:55Speaker 03

  I actually have gotten to know Pam, so I'd say that she's loyal would be the word.

• 2:50:00Patrick Bet-David?

  And last but not least, Trump.

• 2:50:02Speaker 03

  Amazing.

• 2:50:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Amazing. We'll wrap up with that one. We got seven interesting things with an explanation. What was Newsom? What was Newsom? Was an asshole?

• 2:50:11Speaker 03

  Asshole.

• 2:50:11Patrick Bet-David?

  What was asshole? I actually think he may take that as a compliment.

• 2:50:15Speaker 03

  Maybe he'll post the clip.

• 2:50:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe he'll post the clip. Well, listen, we've been trying to do this for a while. I think you're a rock star. We love seeing you out there.

• 2:50:23Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 2:50:24Patrick Bet-David?

  You're tough, you're strong, you're very authentic, but you have the charisma, the charm. And the only concern is you're only gonna do this 10 more years.

• 2:50:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, look, if you had to deal with the crap that we had to, I think most people top out of it. They're like, "I'm not dealing with this. This is crazy."

• 2:50:40Patrick Bet-David?

  But I think I love what you said. Look, either do something about it, or stop bitching. If you want to do something about it, get in the rain.

• 2:50:46Speaker 03

  Don't be an asshole.

• 2:50:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's right. Don't be an asshole. What a great name. If you don't know the word, go Google it. Anyways, it's been a blast having you on. Thank you so much for coming on. Take care, everybody. Bye bye, bye bye.

• 2:51:00Patrick Bet-David?

  of working on this, we have finally pulled it off. And let me tell you what it is. Every time we do the Vols Conference, if you've attended, you know this. I stand up and I speak for probably forty-five hours is what I do. At the Vols Conference and I love it. I love being around the guys. I love it. But I wear the Ferragamo shoes when I do this. Or I wear some kind of dress shoes. Eventually, for the last twenty-five years, I've always been on stage walking. I'm like, you know what? I'm sick and tired of it. I want a shoe that I'm comfortable wearing. And here's what I love. I don't like shoes that are so heavy. That's a Dumbo. You can use it as a weapon. I don't want that. Like the Xenia, you carry it. I have so many of them, but they're so heavy. Like you can literally curl the Xenia, you know, the shoes and you'll get a pump within thirty reps.

• 2:51:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And I wanted the combination of the Hoka, the Oncloud, the Super Foam. Because there's a big thing going on right now with the Super Foam. Where the bottom of the shoe, you wear it. You know which ones I'm talking about? The Oncloud or the Hokas, right? They're so comfortable. And I said, what if we take luxury? And then combine it with the super comfort? What would that look like? And let's build it in Italy. So what do we do? We went to Italy. We designed the shoe in Florida. We made the shoe in Italy. In five of the factories, we went back and forth, God knows how many times. And by the way, the shoes we're about to launch and introduce to you right now, where you're gonna see the video for the first time. I've been wearing those shoes for the last twenty-two days straight. I'm wearing them right now. I literally wear it with suits. I wore it yesterday when we went to lunch. I wear it every single day.

• 2:52:27Patrick Bet-David?

  It's the most comfortable shoes I have yet. It's authentic Italian leather. Rob, if you don't mind playing the video, go for it. Here's the video of the latest shoe, the FOBs. When we set out to create a shoe that blends comfort, function, and luxury. We had the choice to make it fast. We had the choice to make it cheap. We chose neither. Instead, we chose Tascagno. We chose true Italian craftsmanship. Each pair touched by fifty skilled hands. We chose patience, spending two years perfecting every detail. And we chose the finest quality at every step. Introducing the Future Looks Bright Collection. Not rushed, not disposable, not ordinary.

• 2:53:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Rather intentional, luxurious, timeless.

• 2:53:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Boom. There you go. Designed in Florida, 100% made in Italy. 50 hands touch each shoe that was made. And here's what's unique about it. I want to kind of show this to everybody that knows this. And I've worn pretty much every one of these shoes. So if you compare this, the Italian leather, of course, it's made in Italy. It's not assembled, made in China, assembled in Italy. 100% made in Italy, assembled in Italy. It's FLBs, Berluti's, which are 1840. Fergamos are 895, Zenias are 1190, and Gucci's are 950. Leather premium lining, all of them except for Gucci. Laceless feature, it's the FLBs, the Berluti's, you have laces. Fergamos laceless. And then you have also the Zenias, and then the Gucci's have the laces. I don't want to wake up in the morning, put laces on. I want to get out the house.

• 2:54:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Took me three seconds to put my shoes on today. Craftsman, five different Italian factories all made this shoe. Berluti's are the same as us, as well as FLB. But the only shoe, these trainers, the only one in the world today, according to the factories that told me this, in Italy, that has the super foam, the only one that has the same super foam used in the Onclouds and the Hoka's, it's the FLBs, and they're officially out, and you can place the order. Here's a challenge. We only have a thousand of these pairs. And when you say thousand of these pairs, they start from size, I believe, is it eight? It goes eight, nine, 10, 10 and a half, 11, 11 and a half, 12, 13. Those are the sizes that we have. And the shoes that you can get today, the colors,

• 2:54:47Patrick Bet-David?

  you have access to, Rob, if you can go back to, you can have access to those browns, which is absolutely beautiful. And by the way, the brown on the bottom, the stitching on the side is a left stitching. If you can change the picture, and on the bottom, it says the future looks bright. Look at the, the white lines on the side, it's beautiful. The only ones we have right now that you can get sent out today are the black and the browns. If you do want the white to preorder, I would highly recommend you do so. They're going to come out the second week of December. So the white and the navy blue comes out the second week of December. The browns and the blacks are available. If you believe the future looks bright as much as we do, go place the order. There's nothing like sitting in the boardroom. With your trainers and you put your feet over your knee and people look at the bottom

• 2:55:32Patrick Bet-David?

  of your shoe and it says "future looks bright", that's how you get deals done. All right, so they're out, I'm excited to announce it and I'm very happy for people to go sport it. When you get them, take pictures, send it our way, we're gonna show all these shoes, all the pictures that are being taken, I already got a bunch of them sent to me on Instagram. Go to VTmerch.com, place your order, it's all over the website. Maybe buy it for your husband, buy it for your brother, buy it for your coworkers, buy it for your best salespeople, if you want to let them know the future looks bright.

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