Israel & Hamas Ceasefire Broken, No Kings Protests + Epstein's E-mail Shakedown | PBD Podcast | Ep. 669

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down the escalating “No Kings” protests, the collapse of the Israel–Hamas ceasefire, and shocking new revelations from Jeffrey Epstein’s leaked emails exposing a global shakedown network. ------ 📕 REGISTER FOR BPW 2025 - FRIDAY, DECEMBER 12TH 2025: https://bit.ly/3IU2YWx 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 1:08Speaker 02

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right here.

• 1:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 1:14Speaker 02

  My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, I don't know if you know or not. I hope you had a good weekend, but communism is back with the help of Democrats. This No Kings protest has helped communism create momentum again. They're out there. They're so happy. Their memberships are climbing. They are so grateful for the Democratic Party for being able to mix everybody together. It was, you know, Antifa. You combine all of it together. They came and hung out shameless. It was awesome. It was great. I gotta say it was peaceful. There was not a lot of crazy things going on. A lot of people, they ask, why are you out here? They had no answers. Like, what do you believe in? Well, I'm just, I don't want a monarchy. You don't live in a monarchy. Yeah, but why are you here? I just, we're having such a good time. So, but why are you here? It's just such a good time. We're so joyful, so loving. But what do you believe in?

• 2:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I just don't want a monarchy. Tell me what you believe in. It's so bad that on CNN, Scott Jennings is on there talking to Dear Abby and they're going back and forth. Dear Abby. And while they're talking and they're doing their things.

• 2:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Eventually, one of the ladies like, "Well, yeah, we did get the immigration thing wrong. Democrats already said it, but this is not about that, and this is not about this. Listen, you guys are screwing up. What do you believe in? What were you out there for? Guys, we're gonna try to figure this out together collectively. I'm not telling you we have that kind of intelligence, but we're gonna try to put our brains together and see if we can figure out what is going on, if it's King Trump. Apparently, he had a video that he posted that is going on. He dropped a bunch of chocolate ice cream on people. Harry says that would've worked. Some say it's not chocolate ice cream. Some say it was something else because it's like brown. Who knows what he's talking about? It could be coffee ice cream because coffee's got that color. I don't know if you've had it before or not. But it's a very, very delicious ice cream, but some say. But we got a lot of stories to go through.

• 3:03Patrick Bet-David?

  We got a lot of stories to go through. Yesterday, Whitkoff and Kushman. Kushner. Kushner. Kushner. Kushman. Kushner was from uh... No, no, no. Kushner is Jerry Maguire. Kush, Kush, Kush, Kush, Kush. This Kush. Jerry Maguire. My word is strong as oak. Yeah, that's right. No, but Jared Kushner and Whitkoff were sitting with Leslie Stahl from 60 Minutes, and it's actually a very good interview. I watched the first 20 minutes of it, 50 minutes and 39 seconds of it. There's a couple clips in there. One, on how the president was upset with Netanyahu. You have to see that. And another one about a moment where Whitkoff was speaking to one of the Hamas leaders, and they had a moment together. Vinny was sharing this with us this morning

• 3:48Patrick Bet-David?

  about the fact that they both lost the loss, and it was his son, and it was a very emotional moment. I think it's a clip we should watch together here. And we got a bunch of other stories to get into. Trump noncommittal to sending tomahawks to Ukraine, a meeting with Zelensky. Trump, as usual, just sending some love messages to people. He had a warning for socialist dictator. He says, "Don't F around with the United States", and just got up and walked out, I think. Something happened there. Salesforce Mark Benihov. Now, after saying that Trump is doing the right thing, now is coming back and saying he should, for saying he should send National Guard. He's apologizing. He shouldn't have said he should send National Guard to San Francisco. Curtis Lee, one must drop out of New York City race or Maldani will be next mayor.

• 4:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I have some thoughts on that with the New York governor race that's taking mayor race that's taking place the next couple of weeks. Elon Musk has turned his eye to the UK. We'll talk about that. Nick Fuentes goes on Spotify. Does one podcast becomes number one, then they take it down. Okay. Imagine that does one podcast goes number one and then took him down. And did they say why, Rob? Like, do we know why they took him down? Like, is there? When we read the stories, did they say for the following three reasons?

• 4:59Speaker 04

  No, and from what I found yesterday, it may have been because somebody else. It wasn't Nick Fuentes who uploaded the episodes. It was somebody else that was a listener of his show that was uploading that.

• 5:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, then that makes sense. That makes sense that somebody else did it. And maybe, let's see if, because one thing about Spotify, they've never had the reputation of not, like, what happened to YouTube that never happened at Spotify at those levels? They did remove some of Rogan's episodes. But not, not, not to the level of, you know, not letting him do his thing. Yeah. Who else we got here? Zelensky says Trump didn't say yes to Tomahawk missiles. And he's pitching Trump on Ukraine drone for Tomahawk missiles exchange as president ways because Ukraine's got some of the best drone attack, half a million of them that they did. Besent Chinese vice premier to meet to try to diffuse escalation of US tariffs.

• 5:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump calls 157% Trump China tariffs not sustainable ahead of Plan G meeting in South Korea. And then never Trump or George Conway wears a shirt that says I am Antifa shirt at no kings protest. He does look like he is taking some stuff to lose weight because he split in half. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if he's on Ozempic or not. By the way, it's great sponsorship if you do it. Oh, are him and Kellyanne still together? I don't think so. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. You don't remember their daughter that recorded live when Kellyanne was doing? That was tough. Mary Hassan calls marrying Trump a job immigrants will do, but Americans won't. What is that? Marrying Trump, like an American won't marry Trump, only an immigrant will.

• 6:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Really? Only the most beautiful woman in the world will marry Trump.

• 6:37Speaker 04

  Right. And can you imagine anybody on the conservative side saying something the other way? I mean, you just.

• 6:43Speaker 06

  Unbelievable.

• 6:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, how would you say it? What is the antonym of that from Michelle Obama? Oh, you would be saying it, go back the other way, pick any, pick any liberal that's married somebody and say, oh, well marrying you is the job of an immigrant. And they say, oh, you conservative authoritarian racist, that's what they say. I got five great jokes that I'm not gonna say because I'm respectful. Yup. Because when they go low, I go high, Tom. That's what I do.

• 7:09Adam Sosnick?

  PBD, that's why you, as an immigrant, married a white woman. It's reverse DEI.

• 7:13Patrick Bet-David?

  That's my, that was my way of getting in the room. Yup. It's like, hey, I'm from Iran, she's white. Yeah. Can I get into the room? She white. Come on in since you married a white girl.

• 7:23Adam Sosnick?

  That's why I'm gonna marry a black girl, I'm gonna get that street cred, y'all.

• 7:25Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, went to, Welcome to America, where the white women at? This, this birthday weekend, I went to Cote, Cote. Oh, yeah. In Miami, oh my God. Ridiculous. What was that all about? Daniel, who was one of the managers coming, who was extremely great, Sebastian, the food was ridiculous. I ate this kimchi, I'm telling you, I feel like I'm 38 today, even though I'm 47. I aged backwards, it was so good. The food was out of this world.

• 7:52Adam Sosnick?

  Did you have to cook your own food?

• 7:53Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I told them, you cook it, cuz you,

• 7:54Adam Sosnick?

  Cuz it's Korean barbecue style.

• 7:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't even wanna cook it, I just wanna eat it. When I'm, I'm a professional eater, you come, you cook it, I'll eat it.

• 7:59Adam Sosnick?

  PBD, I'm not gonna lie, you're a Fort Lauderdale guy, I know you're building the Burbank in,

• 8:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 8:03Adam Sosnick?

  in Fort Lauderdale, but you, you spend a lot of time in Design District, you like that area.

• 8:07Patrick Bet-David?

  If I was 21 years old, Yeah. I wouldn't finish that sentence, but it would have been a very interesting, if me, Vinnie, and Adam, can you imagine if all of us were 21 at the same age, even Tom? What? Imagine Tom, that would be, if Tom was,

• 8:22Adam Sosnick?

  You think really hard.

• 8:25Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, imagine Tom lands like the hottest girl, and we're like, Oh. How did that happen? But if he was, And then you realize he wears a true size 12 shoes, not like an 11 and a half, bagging about. But if he was with us though, it'd be a bad, we'd be a bad influence. Trump DOJ found evidence.

• 8:37Adam Sosnick?

  Some guy, I'm just gonna tell you real quick.

• 8:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I did land the hottest girl, and she's listening. This is the girl, this, this is the girl, Foreman? At the hotel, we were at Ritz Carlton or whatever it was. What? A girl left us on his car, hey sexy, I saw you earlier, my room number is 6821, please come up, love Crystal. That's a female handwriting, don't try, the people are gonna be like, oh, somebody, a guy wrote that, that's a girl. Were trying to claim that that's my handwriting, looks nothing like the way I write.

• 9:02Adam Sosnick?

  I asked the valet, I said to the valet, I said, what is this? He goes, I don't know.

• 9:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. I saw three girls came up to the car with that blue Porsche, but guys, let's not get distracted. Stay focused. That's why I don't hang out in Miami, PBA. Trump's DOJ found evidence Dems are skewing crime stats. Uh oh. Ahead of midterms elections, okay? Kamala Harris claims Gen Z is afraid to have children because of climate anxiety her party created. No shit, Sherlock. Back on the bottle. You scared the crap out of them. Climate's gonna kill them and they're not gonna be able to enjoy their time with their kids. Bill Ackman says Curtis Lee, we'll talk about that. Mom Donnie appears smiling arm in arm with unindicted 1993 World Trade Center bombing co-conspirator and terrorist apologist. What a long title, just simplify that title.

• 9:48Patrick Bet-David?

  But I had to read that whole title to share that I can, I can pronounce unindicted and co-conspirator. So you know unindicted means, right? We know that you were in the room, but we can't, we don't have actual proof that you did it. So he's involved somehow. Maxwell and Epstein pleaded for Virginia Giuffre to have our baby. Is that serious? Yup. Just keeps getting weirder. Prominent teen to hatch escape plan. What? Pat, it's disgusting. It's, her book is coming out. We'll come to, we'll come to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Americans underprepared for longer lifespan and extended retirement years. Studies from, by the way, we're not even thinking about this. That is gonna be a big problem 40 years from now, 20 years from now. Big problem 40 years from now, you'll see. Okay.

• 10:31Patrick Bet-David?

  It's gonna be a massive problem because people are not ready for it. And last but not least, listen, we have to do this. Shohei Ohtani had the single greatest baseball game a baseball player has ever had in the history of America. And we are so proud of him. Okay, sir. He's so great. He's so awesome. But it is what it is. It's just amazing what he did. Three home runs, 10 strikeouts in a game. Unbelievable. In a game. He's not human. He is not human. And you know, the Dodgers swept and they're about to go up against either the Mariners or the Blue Jays. I swear to God, if you lose to either the Blue Jays or the Mariners, Tom? He's highlighting them. That is gonna be the worst, but you guys are gonna destroy them.

• 11:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Can I, can I, can you make a prediction? If, if it's, if it's Seattle, what's the, what's the, what's the final, uh, game seven? They win in what? If it's Seattle versus Toronto. Sweet. I have a number. What do you think it is? Seattle, Toronto, it's like, who's gonna win the AL? If Seattle goes to the World Series or Toronto goes, how will Dodgers beat them? What is it?

• 11:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna write mine down, just be quick Tom, we don't have to take a long time.

• 11:41Tom Ellsworth?

  For Seattle, I think it goes seven games and it goes into like 13 extra innings.

• 11:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You being serious or you being sarcastic?

• 11:49Tom Ellsworth?

  No, he's being sarcastic, he knows, it's gonna be a sweep. Yeah.

• 11:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, I got 17 stories, just say it.

• 11:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Sweep, five in five?

• 11:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Seattle, what do you think?

• 11:58Tom Ellsworth?

  In six? I think it's six, six or six.

• 12:01Patrick Bet-David?

  With Seattle, six and six?

• 12:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Toronto, I think is definitely six and Seattle is probably six.

• 12:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm saying 4-1, Seattle 4-2 Toronto.

• 12:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 12:09Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what I have, but we'll see.

• 12:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Vlad, game seven. Vlad Jr. is locked in.

• 12:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, he is, but it's not Dodgers or the whole team is locked in, having fun. I saw him the other day creating Gatorade drinks for everybody, Shohei Ohtani. What a freaking team, you almost want to win for that guy's a leader amongst leaders. Love that guy, he's such a great, by the way, both him in the NL and Aaron Judge in the AL, they're awesome faces of the league, unlike LeBron James. They're awesome.

• 12:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Yup.

• 12:35Patrick Bet-David?

  They're phenomenal faces for the league, you want to watch the game because of those two guys. That means the Major League Baseball is gonna be exciting for the next five to 10 years.

• 12:43Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree.

• 12:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm happy for them.

• 12:44Tom Ellsworth?

  And Aaron Judge not just hitting home runs, got a batting title this year, which is a big deal.

• 12:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's not easy to do, but.

• 12:49Tom Ellsworth?

  For a big man.

• 12:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, it is, I agree. So, and then we got a couple of other things I will get into story wise, but before we do that, folks. Uh, I want to share something with you guys. I'll be making an announcement probably on Wednesday, if not on Friday. Uh, and Wednesday Business Podcast has become hot, we're excited about it. We got a lot of interesting people that'll be joining us here soon as well. But today, here's what I'm convinced, I don't know about you, I've been doing so many mannequins the last few weeks. Of people talking about what they're gonna be doing for 2026, and here's all I'm telling them. In 2020, when election night ended, we were doing a podcast. That was Tom's first podcast he had been on, on PBD Podcast. He had come back, he was on the podcast, I invited him on, we had a great time.

• 13:35Patrick Bet-David?

  It was him, me, Adam, Sapala, Zenner, football player, a few other guys, we had a great time.

• 13:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Dennis Prager called in.

• 13:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Dennis Prager called in, a bunch of.

• 13:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Tigre lost a finger.

• 13:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know what happened that night? We hit 8,200 live streaming that night. When it ended at 2, 3 o'clock in the morning, because they didn't call it, that's when Biden won. I looked at the whole crew and I said, I'm telling you this right now. We're gonna run the biggest livestream for 2024. It's gonna be the Super Bowl. We're gonna make some noise. We had already planned of what we were gonna do four years later in 2024. This is us, right? How many views did this get, Rob? Can you see the views? How many you got?

• 14:13Speaker 04

  So it had, it had to be re-uploaded. The re-uploaded version only has 50,000 views.

• 14:17Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Rob, it's not re-uploaded.

• 14:19Speaker 04

  So we had to re-upload this episode to the top right, man.

• 14:21Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so, so when we played this originally, we had 8,200 max live that we hit, right? But watch what happens here. We planned for 2024 and then it does what it does. Do you know the 2024 election night plan was planned four years prior to the happening? And we talked about it right after this thing was done at 3 o'clock in the morning. What's the point? On election night that night, concurrent, we had 282,000 people live watching for eight and a half straight hours to the point where Google CEO and YouTube CEO invited us to a meeting in DC and they said, "What the hell did you guys do?" It was a number one livestream worldwide. Where am I going with this? I'm convinced 2026 is gonna be a magical year. I'm convinced 2026 is gonna be a magical year.

• 15:07Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm convinced most people are gonna screw it up. Most people are not gonna have the right plans in place. Most people are gonna wink it going into 2026. And my biggest suggestion to you is whatever you're doing, do not wink going into 2026. Whether you're an individual employee, you have a family, wife and kids and family, you got big plans for your family, you wanna do something special for them, you're an independent contractor, you're a business owner, you're a government employee, whatever it may be. If there's ever been a year to fully be locked in for a great business plan, it's 25 going into 26. 26 is gonna be a 250 year anniversary. Trump turns 80, World Cup's coming to the US. Rates are gonna probably lower three more times in 2026. Stock market's gonna open up with IPOs. It's gonna be a special year.

• 15:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And a lot of people are gonna have a lot of success in 2026. I would like you to do the same as well. However, on December 12th, every year, I do a one-day webinar for business planning. We call it the Business Planning Workshop. I wanna show you a video of two people. See if you recognize the two guys and see which one you are. When people do business planning. One guy's name is Ernie, one guy's name is Larry. They were both annoying. I loved both of them, but they were annoying in this setting. But I want you to watch and see which one you are and then I wanna encourage you to get registered today for December 12th. Go ahead and play the clip, Rob. So today I'm working on two business plans. One is by Ernie, whose business plan is purely based on emotion. The other one is Larry, whose business plan is purely based off of logic.

• 16:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You tell me if you were an investor, who you would invest in? Ernie or Larry? Okay guys, so thank you for being here. Ernie, Larry, let's go ahead and get started. Thank you, Patrick. So I love the enthusiasm, you're excited, but how are you actually gonna do it?

• 16:46Speaker 06

  Patrick, this thing is going to be massive. I'm telling you, it's going to make billions and billions of dollars. Don't worry about that right now, I'm just telling you, we're gonna dominate the marketplace. Everybody's gonna be talking about us. I shared this idea with multiple people in my family. They all love it, even my grandmother's actually deaf in one ear. She's still got it.

• 17:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Get out of here.

• 17:01Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 17:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's good, it's promising, but how are you gonna present it to investors?

• 17:05Speaker 06

  Pat, I'll worry about that later, just right now, it's about the vibe, it's just going and getting it. People feel the energy, you don't feel that? Feel that?

• 17:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Unbelievable.

• 17:11Speaker 06

  Look at that, people want that, people invest in that.

• 17:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Makes sense.

• 17:13Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 17:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Probably makes sense.

• 17:15Speaker 08

  Actually, Patrick, the market data suggests a 1.7 probability of scale assuming favorable inflation trends, so uh, yes, that's where I'm at right now.

• 17:23Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the vision? Give me the vision long-term.

• 17:26Speaker 08

  Actually, Patrick, that's where I wear the glasses, I really don't have good vision, but I ran 47 simulations and none of them support anything that you were talking about earlier, about gut feelings and anything like that, so.

• 17:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Is there any plans to disrupt an industry? Like, does that excite you? Do you have the right people around you on the team?

• 17:42Speaker 08

  Patrick, people equal problems. I trust a sales spreadsheet more than I trust people, so.

• 17:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Makes sense. Listen, I wish you nothing but the best.

• 17:48Speaker 08

  Thank you, so we're done?

• 17:49Patrick Bet-David?

  We're fully done, yes.

• 17:50Speaker 08

  Can I update my sheet? I'm leaving early, I can go home and play with my cats. Thank you, Patrick.

• 17:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, hey, hey. So the truth is, we just saw all emotion, Ernie, and we just saw all logic, Larry, right? The reality of it is, I've been doing business plans for the last 25 years, tens of thousands of business plans with people. The truth is, you need both. You need emotion for fire, you need logic for clarity and plan. This is why, once a year, I host an event called the Business Planning Workshop. It's the only virtual event that we do, that anybody from around the world can come and log into this one here. You get a 200-page manual, based on 12 building blocks, on how you can write a business plan to make 2026 the beginning of the greatest years of your life. If you, your team, your spouse, you guys haven't registered yet, click on the link below, get registered.

• 18:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Cannot wait to spend an entire day with you on December 12th of this year. I'll see you there. Alright, so we're gonna put the link below Rob for people to go ahead and get registered. Ernie was fantastic, but I kinda like Larry more. Larry to me was a little nerdy, exciting guy to be around. But, uh, go, uh, Rob, what's the website to get registered for, for people that are just listening?

• 18:56Speaker 04

  Uh, bpw.betdavidconsulting.com. The link is also in the description and pinned to the chat.

• 19:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Beautiful, there you go. bpw.betdavidconsulting.com. Get registered. Watch it with your team, watch it with your family. Looking forward to spending December 12, 2025, this year, with you. Having said that, let's get right into it. No King's Protest, Vinny. No King's Protest. This is, you, you, like, think about it this way. If you are a socialist, if you are a communist, the Communist Party has not had any attention for the longest time. Then all of a sudden, for communists, the Democrats are so devastated with everything that's going on with Trump right now. Winning, winning, winning, winning, winning. Hey guys, let's just team up with everybody, right?

• 19:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And they decide to do this protest. According to them, 7 million people show up nationwide to do this protesting. They were willing to take anybody, and now they teamed up with communists and socialists. Isn't that exciting? So now they're bringing more attention to them, but we're gonna go through a couple clips, folks. I want you to watch us here. Uh, so No King's Protest, live updates. Organizer claimed 7 million people marched for in anti-Trump rallies this weekend, and let me go through this, Rob. 7 million people across the country turned out for the second No King's Protest. Uh, making the largest single day demonstration against a sitting president in modern day history.

• 20:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Organizer said, "As the government shutdown approached in third week, millions of demonstrators joined protests in more than 2,500 cities and, uh, towns in all 50 states with several global cities joining in." Stand up, or call, or, anyways, I can read all this stuff. Let's watch a few clips together. Go ahead, Rob.

• 20:41Speaker 09

  The massive No Kings protest that swept across all 50 states and Washington DC. Yesterday, organizers say that nearly 7 million people attended events to protest what they call President Trump's authoritarian power grabs. To put that in perspective, that's 2 million more people than the first No Kings protest back in June. People of all ages and backgrounds came out sporting costumes, waving homemade protest signs. Some of the biggest crowds were seen in Chicago, New York, LA, DC, and Boston. The crowds also turned out into smaller cities and towns. Protesters even showed up in Republican-led states that voted for Trump in 2024. But no matter where they were from, they all had one unifying message: America is no

• 21:26Speaker 09

  place for kings.

• 21:27Speaker 10

  They're not going to intimidate us with tyrant talk. We are out here to stand up for this democracy. To the fascism and the threats that are coming from DC, that's what they want us to do, and they will only be successful in that if we remain silent.

• 21:44Speaker 11

  We are standing up for those who are scared to come out.

• 21:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I can smell her from here.

• 21:48Speaker 11

  We're standing for those who believe in democracy. And it's beautiful to see all these people here. It gives me hope. It gives me a lot of hope, honestly. And that's what we all believe in. We believe in hope. We believe in getting back to America's beautiful self.

• 22:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Which was what? You want to get back to the beautiful America itself? Can you go to the great Nancy Pelosi tweet, Rob, if you don't mind? Go on Twitter. So Nancy Pelosi posted this video of her breaking the... What did she do? She broke the crown, right? She loves ripping. No, no, just go to my Twitter account, Rob, if you could. Just go to... She loves that. That's her move. Remember the State of the Union? She loves ripping things. It's like a Halloween prop, right? So if you can zoom in a little bit, she does this video. Go ahead, Rob.

• 22:31Speaker 12

  They're crowning.

• 22:59Speaker 01

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• 23:31Patrick Bet-David?

  She loves to say things. Isn't that great?

• 23:33Speaker 04

  How can we survive such?

• 23:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, watch this, Rob. Go to her tweet. Not mine, just go to her tweet first. Look at the comment section, folks. You cannot comment. Okay? You know who did that? Go a little bit lower, Rob. You know who didn't allow people to comment? Actual kings. Weird. So go back to what I said to her, Rob, if you don't mind. Go back one. Watch this here. I said, hey, why do you hate freedom of speech? Your comments are off. You're doing what monarchies actually did. There's a war for people like you, right? That's Nancy Pelosi for you. George Conway was out there. The great George Conway. Our ex-husband, I believe, of Kellyanne Conway. Maybe they're still together. But he was wearing a shirt that said, I am Antifa. So he's finally saying, telling the truth to people.

• 24:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob.

• 24:20Speaker 04

  So it exists. Oh.

• 24:21Speaker 13

  Hey, Donald J. How many kids did you starve today? Hey, hey, Donald J. How many kids did you starve today?

• 24:28Patrick Bet-David?

  How many what?

• 24:29Speaker 04

  How many kids did you start today?

• 24:31Patrick Bet-David?

  His dog wants to leave. His dog hates him. How many what did he say?

• 24:35Speaker 04

  How many kids did you start today? Start, how many kids did you starve today?

• 24:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Starve. And he wore a shirt called I am Antifa. Well, first of all, you have to have a voice for protesting. He doesn't have it. So that was like the worst. Court moogers are saying. But, hey, George, if you're watching, you look good. You've lost weight. Good for you. So whatever you're doing, you're looking good. You're looking good. So what else do you have, Rob? Of this, I mean, there's a bunch of clips I've got here.

• 25:01Speaker 06

  There's one kid, Rob, can you please show Pat the one with the one kid? This is, by the way, when I tell you guys, these people have no clue. Well, Rob, show them. Yeah, show them. By the way, this is the epitome of the Democratic Party.

• 25:11Speaker 04

  This is perfect.

• 25:12Speaker 06

  No vision, no direction, no leader. He's at no kings. He has no clue why he's there. Play this clip. Trump's a bitch.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, why is that?

• 25:21Speaker 06

  I don't know. He's just, we don't like him. That's the word around here. Any, any particular reason why you don't like him? No clue at all. I'm just going with everybody else saying it.

• 25:30Patrick Bet-David?

  At least he's honest about it.

• 25:32Speaker 06

  He's honest, but it's like, what do you, why is he, and then this one, this, Matt, this just sums them all up.

• 25:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob.

• 25:38Speaker 06

  I like the Burger King.

• 25:40Speaker 14

  Um, No King's Day.

• 25:42Speaker 15

  And why specifically are you out supporting No King's Day?

• 25:46Speaker 14

  I think protest is important.

• 25:48Speaker 15

  Why are you protesting?

• 25:50Speaker 14

  Um, how much time do you have?

• 25:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Two minutes.

• 25:55Speaker 15

  Couple minutes? And what's the main reason you're out here protesting President Trump?

• 25:59Speaker 14

  I don't agree with a lot of the decisions that are being made.

• 26:02Speaker 15

  Is there any decision in particular you disagree with?

• 26:06Speaker 14

  Where, okay, so I would start with, um...

• 26:12Speaker 06

  I gotta go.

• 26:14Speaker 14

  Wow.

• 26:16Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, this lady is probably how old?

• 26:18Speaker 14

  I don't even think, I don't even think it's appropriate for me to have a...

• 26:20Speaker 06

  I gotta go. It's not appropriate. That, you have no idea why you're there. So it makes me question, who paid her? To me, I feel like somebody paid, like, hey, listen, go there, hold the sign, we'll color it for you, stand there. You have no idea what you're doing there. And say what you want about January 6th. They were, you know what? Those, say, I don't care what anybody says. They knew that, they knew why they were there. They knew why they were cheated, so they went to the freaking, the source. The government screwed you over, so they went to the freaking, the, uh, the Capitol. That's how you do it, bro. These people have no idea what the hell they're doing there. Except 270 of them, but we'll leave, we'll leave the feds out of it. Yeah. Oh, yeah, exactly. Unbelievable.

• 27:00Speaker 06

  So these speakers can have the glass walls, but we can't do that on the... Yeah, but Bill Nye, he, he got approached through Bill Nye, the Science Guy. Some guy's like, you're Bill Nye, the political science guy. He's like, what are you here? Why are you even here? What are you talking about? Climate change? It's like, give me a break, bro.

• 27:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, play the clip of MSNBC showing protesting of 2017. Go ahead, Rob. Watch this, folks.

• 27:21Speaker 13

  Look at this. Millions of people across the country marching as we speak against the policies of President Trump. This is Boston. Look at that. We'll continue to follow these rallies throughout the day here on MSNBC.

• 27:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Come on, Ali.

• 27:34Speaker 06

  Right when I saw this, I'm like, wait, that's not, it's not even HD. You knew it was old. Like, you know it's old. You know it's old. Like, why are they...

• 27:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have John, what is that actor's name? Cusack?

• 27:46Speaker 06

  John Cusack.

• 27:47Patrick Bet-David?

  If you have some of those, Rob, it's just so fantastic watching these guys.

• 27:50Tom Ellsworth?

  My favorite part of the footage in Boston was the float in the middle with the Patriots players on it.

• 27:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You're so funny. Go ahead, Rob. Can't hear Rob.

• 28:04Speaker 04

  Oh, it's in mono again. Here, I have Bill Nye. Here's Bill Nye.

• 28:09Speaker 06

  The science, the political science guy.

• 28:10Speaker 04

  Bill Nye, the science guy also appeared.

• 28:12Speaker 06

  The friggin' bow tie.

• 28:13Speaker 16

  I remember well, the Vietnam War. The mall was shoulder to shoulder, much as it is today. Traffic stopped citywide. The protest movement expanded. There were protests around the country, and the war was ended. We are protesting in the same fashion today. Only today, the stakes are higher. Rather than abandoning a war against an elusive, perhaps sometimes imaginary fall, we are confronting the possible end of our republic.

• 28:53Speaker 16

  We are here to tell our lawmakers that what's going on in our government is wrong. They must stop the abuses of this petulant president and his circle of sycophants.

• 29:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Be specific.

• 29:06Speaker 16

  No thrones.

• 29:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Be specific.

• 29:08Speaker 16

  No crowns. No kings.

• 29:11Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, do you realize, I'll give you a completely different perspective. These guys actually had a shot. For example, when it lets you say, "We're doing this," I had a very good call the last couple of days with somebody that's, you know, competing in a mayoral race, but we had a very good call together, okay?

• 29:31Patrick Bet-David?

  And I listen and I'm like, okay.

• 29:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You have seven billion people that are coming out. You know how I would have done this campaign differently? Say, say I'm the guy that's running this. Say we're running this, Tom, and it's our team. First of all, we would have five points. Here's the five things we want to improve. It can't be general statements. It can't be emotional statements. It can't be victim of statements. It has to carry weight. And it can't be boil the ocean. No, it can't. It's gotta carry weight. One, we would like to see X, Y, Z. Two, we would like to see this. Three, we would like to see this. Four, we would like to see this. Five is this. And by the way, here's some pamphlets. Go share with others. Here's some videos. Go educate yourself.

• 30:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to XYZ.com. Do you realize, Vinny, seven million people came out to protest? Hundreds of millions of views are gonna be shown all across social media platforms. TV, social media, X, Facebook, YouTube. You had a chance to drive all of us to a website to see all the things that Trump is doing wrong. Yep. You missed the entire opportunity. Mm-hmm. It's as if you put all these time together and got nothing accomplished. Nothing. Give us, like, if I was to ask you right now, all week long, and by the way, for some of you guys that are watching this, that maybe you're liberal yourself that's watching this right now. What do they want? What was the purpose? You, I, I try, I watch a lot of CNN today and MSNBC today, believe it or not.

• 31:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm watching a lot of CNN MSNBC today. They had nothing to say. Give me your issues. Nothing to say. Not one single thing to say. Don't get me wrong. The one thing that you have to give them credit to, Tom, and I don't think we do this enough. I do wanna give credit because normally, you know, and, and I don't, I mean to, I wanna say this in a very encouraging, motivational way. If you have to choose which side is fatter, it's probably the left. And so if the Democrats were able to get their, you know, audience to go out there and exercise a little bit and burn some fat, it was actually a great idea.

• 31:39Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 31:39Patrick Bet-David?

  To get them out of exercising, getting some vitamin, you know, some sun, you know.

• 31:42Speaker 06

  Big time.

• 31:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Good stuff.

• 31:43Speaker 06

  Pale skin.

• 31:44Patrick Bet-David?

  If that was the main thing, great. But guess what? Most people who protested were white.

• 31:50Speaker 06

  And in cities of what is this?

• 31:52Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, statistically older, people were looking at this.

• 31:55Speaker 06

  Nailed it. Sorry, Trump. They're in Philly, DC, Chicago, New York, Boston. Nobody from the, it wasn't a minority thing. It was old white liberals.

• 32:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's, it's, and by the way, here's what the president had to say about it. Go ahead, go ahead, Rob.

• 32:07Speaker 17

  What's your response to the protests over the weekend, the no kings protests? I think it's a joke. I looked at the people. They're not representative of this country. And I looked at all the brand new signs paid for, I guess it was paid for by Soros and other radical left lunatics. It looks like it was. We're checking it out. The demonstrations were very small, very ineffective, and the people were whacked out. When you look at those people, those are not representative of the people of our country.

• 32:34Speaker 14

  Mr. Costner, besides San Francisco.

• 32:36Speaker 17

  By the way, I'm not a king. I'm not a king. I work my ass off to make our country great. That's all it is. I'm not a king at all.

• 32:44Speaker 06

  Busting his ass. And he is.

• 32:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 32:46Speaker 06

  And he is.

• 32:47Patrick Bet-David?

  What's this, Rob?

• 32:48Adam Sosnick?

  This is the video that Trump put on Truth Social about the protest.

• 32:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Mr. Chocolate video? Go ahead, Rob.

• 32:54Adam Sosnick?

  I think our friend Harry Sisson is in this video. We play with music? Danger Zone?

• 33:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, it is.

• 33:05Adam Sosnick?

  Danger Zone.

• 33:06Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way.

• 33:11Patrick Bet-David?

  He really posted this?

• 33:12Speaker 06

  Yes, he did.

• 33:13Adam Sosnick?

  Danger Zone.

• 33:16Speaker 06

  Look at him.

• 33:18Patrick Bet-David?

  He is the biggest troll.

• 33:19Adam Sosnick?

  He's such a troll. On one clip, he'll say no kings and then he'll throw.

• 33:22Speaker 06

  This is my favorite.

• 33:23Adam Sosnick?

  Put this out there.

• 33:24Speaker 06

  This is my favorite.

• 33:25Adam Sosnick?

  Excalibur.

• 33:25Speaker 04

  And look where they posted it on Blue Sky.

• 33:27Patrick Bet-David?

  On Blue Sky.

• 33:29Speaker 06

  Oh, look at them bowing down.

• 33:31Speaker 04

  Oh, Nancy Reverend.

• 33:33Speaker 06

  Freaking, what a...

• 33:34Adam Sosnick?

  That's actually, um...

• 33:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm Oscar.

• 33:36Speaker 06

  Blue Sky's, it's like a leftist liberal, uh, app where all, they're just in their...

• 33:42Adam Sosnick?

  What's Blue Sky, Rob?

• 33:43Speaker 04

  It's like threads, it's the...

• 33:44Speaker 06

  Threads for liberals and people that are just anti-Trump haters.

• 33:48Adam Sosnick?

  Is it with a bigger brand, or is it...

• 33:49Speaker 04

  I'm not sure. I think it was Jack Dorsey may have been behind it and at its initial steps, but it's a left's version of Twitter.

• 33:55Patrick Bet-David?

  It was Jack Dorsey, because Jack Dorsey said he removed himself from the board yesterday in a tweet, and when he tweeted that he wants Thomas Massey, somebody responded and he says, "I removed myself from the board on that." But go ahead, Adam, your thoughts on No Kings?

• 34:10Adam Sosnick?

  So I'm gonna show you this one picture that can sort of sum up exactly what the No Kings protest is. Here's in front of the Capitol Building. See if you see one American flag here in this picture.

• 34:18Speaker 06

  One's upside down. It's upside down.

• 34:20Adam Sosnick?

  You do it, but it's upside down. So here's a snapshot. I'm sure there were some American flags at this protest, but here's one snapshot of how many Free Palestine flags, how many fascist things, how many Ukraine, uh, flags, how many upside-down American flags? Not one American flag. Say what you want about Republican protests, or MAGA protests, or even January 6th for that matter, you didn't stop seeing American flags left and right. And that's the biggest problem what's going on in this country is that, on one hand, the Republicans, they got the American flag. And sometimes they love their country so much, they don't want anybody to come in, the nativist, the isolationist, which I'm pretty critical of as well. But on the left, it's every other flag than the United States

• 35:05Adam Sosnick?

  of America that comes first. Ukraine flag, LGBT flag, the woke flag, the Free Palestine flag, the gaze for Gaza flag, the BLM flag, the Me Too flag, all these flags, but they don't have enough, uh, sense to actually have patriotism and the American flag. That, to me, is the biggest issue here. The last point is this. Here's the problem that I see with all these things. You know what? As much as these people are wrong in their notion that Trump is a no king... Here's the challenge, they're all voters. Every single one of them has a vote. And you might dismiss them and say that they're illogical and wrong and emotional and just playing to their feelings, which I agree with. But their illogical vote is the same as a logical vote.

• 35:50Adam Sosnick?

  And that's the problem. All these people, seven million, five million, whatever it is, they're all just voting out of pure emotion. And they showed those clips of the guy that's like, yeah, bro, I don't even know what I'm doing here, dog.

• 36:00Speaker 06

  I have no idea.

• 36:01Adam Sosnick?

  They just told me Trump was bad, so I'm here saying Trump is bad. And that's the cult of personality that is now the left.

• 36:07Speaker 06

  But Adam, if you think about it, if you think about it.

• 36:10Adam Sosnick?

  You had me at Makleth.

• 36:11Speaker 06

  Makleth. The, for all the people that don't speak a Syrian, that means excuse me, but if you think about it, what no king, they're, they're, the left is so, Democrats are so gone, you're, you're prepping for a football, like, bro, Trump isn't running in 2028, okay? So there, all this no kings, all this effort, it's like you're, you're, you're prepping for a team that you're not going to play in the Super Bowl. It's like you're prepping for the freaking Steelers, but you're playing the Giants. It doesn't make any sense. And like, we talked about January 6th, those people, those Americans were like, okay, they cheated, we all know that they cheated, we're gonna go and we're gonna go, uh, uh, we're gonna go protest. Yeah, they're provoked, yes, the FBI was in there, they, uh, they did their thing, but it's like, the left, Adam, this, this basically comes down to, the left is allergic to winning.

• 36:55Speaker 06

  They cannot stand, they can't stand that the country is doing great, they can't stand that Trump is doing peace deals, they can't stand that the border is shut down and all their votes, Adam, this is stopping their freaking voter base that you're talking about, all those voters, they are furious and you saw the videos, all those peoples in their city, you're, you're in DC, you're in Philly, you're in New York, where all the, where all the minorities at? No, it's white, angry liberals because they want the cities.

• 37:20Adam Sosnick?

  Can I give you an answer to that?

• 37:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna show you this, I'm gonna show you this first. So here's CNN, Dear Abby with Scott Jennings, and you'll see the other lady, I wish I knew her name, I don't, but I've seen her many times. This exchange is the best part, go ahead, Rob.

• 37:35Speaker 18

  Well, look, I mean, if, if Democrats want to embrace having the Communist Party here in New York City. Sponsor this rally, you know, be my guest respectfully, and I hear what you're saying. But where is the energy in the Democratic Party? You see energy around protecting illegal populations, you see it every day. Energy in around criminals, violent criminals. Democratic officials all over this country have worked very hard to let violent criminals out on the streets. Where is the lie in what is being said by Caroline Levitt? This is where the energy is on the left.

• 38:07Speaker 19

  The energy-

• 38:08Speaker 18

  Violent, illegal aliens, violent criminals, that's the energy. That's what you see.

• 38:12Speaker 19

  The energy is behind protecting people's rights. It's behind not having citizens-

• 38:18Speaker 18

  Who's?

• 38:18Speaker 19

  Arrested, citizens, Americans!

• 38:20Speaker 18

  What about illegal aliens being rounded up by ICE?

• 38:23Speaker 19

  Many Democrats have said, "We got the immigration issue wrong and we need to fix it." Perhaps, maybe in Congress, but we know that won't happen because they aren't even working right now. But people are protesting Americans being zip-tied, being detained without having their rights protected.

• 38:40Speaker 08

  She can't even say it.

• 38:41Speaker 19

  I'm not saying, that is not who is, that is not the Democratic Party saying that, "Let all illegal people or criminals run free." That is not what the Democratic Party is saying.

• 38:51Speaker 18

  Those are the policies, those are your-

• 38:52Speaker 19

  No, they are not.

• 38:53Speaker 18

  I mean, you have prosecutors and judges all over this country that have let violent criminal after violent criminal out on the streets, and then what do they do? They commit other violent crimes in city after city after city.

• 39:05Speaker 20

  What does that have to do with people exercising their rights to protest?

• 39:08Speaker 18

  I don't know.

• 39:09Speaker 20

  I really want to understand.

• 39:11Speaker 18

  This is the point.

• 39:11Speaker 20

  There are going to be millions of people, probably, out on the streets all over the country. And many of those people are, you know, your neighbors, perhaps some of your friends. They're regular Americans that have constitutional rights, that have voting rights like everybody else.

• 39:27Speaker 18

  He says, you can posit-

• 39:28Speaker 20

  Why is it that-

• 39:29Speaker 18

  He says there's nothing wrong with protesting. What are you protesting for?

• 39:32Speaker 06

  That's the goal! Like, what's the-

• 39:33Speaker 18

  What are the issues? What are you about? What a wasted opportunity. By the way, Democrats actually had an opportunity to do something with this. They wasted it. They actually had a shot at doing something with this. They wasted it.

• 39:45Speaker 06

  And this is their second time? You already had round one, and it was a flop, now you have more people? By the way, the numbers are 2 to 3 million. The 7 million even was a lie.

• 39:55Tom Ellsworth?

  I've been quiet up to now because this is so on-brand. What do we talk about? Feelings and victim groups to create voting blocks and response. I agree with Adam, yep, there are voters out there, but all they have is a bunch of feeling on parade and they're trying to find the victim. They're trying to make everyone a victim of an authoritarian king. This is the playbook that the Democrats run and it doesn't work when you go out there and people say, "Okay, I'm listening, what has the king done to me?" Republican side, Ronald Reagan, ask yourself when you go to the voting booth, "Am I better off than I was four years ago specifically?"

• 40:37Tom Ellsworth?

  And if you're not, I ask for your vote because I want to turn the economy around, I want to do this. There's the pitch to quote one election. These folks were out there, these were paid, you can see it.

• 40:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 40:52Tom Ellsworth?

  And I bet, I would love to see, you know, it's gonna happen, you're gonna have somebody like you know who, you know, sitting at a card table, Steven Crowder, saying, "This was paid for by communists, you know, prove me wrong." And they're gonna look at all the logos of the people that paid for this and people are gonna go, "Wait."

• 41:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you seen it actually, guys that were paid? Have you seen clips? I want you to play this clip, Rob, because what people are gonna say when you say that is they're gonna say, "Well, prove it to me, show it to me."

• 41:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 41:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this here, okay? Rob, play this clip because I agree with you, Tom.

• 41:24Tom Ellsworth?

  And I see the logo, there's a logo set that says-

• 41:26Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, for sure, Tom, but here's the thing, watch what this guy does. He's doing a great job, by the way.

• 41:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, he's exposing everyone.

• 41:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this guy, he crashed a paid protester meeting, watch this.

• 41:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, I know this guy, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 41:35Speaker 21

  Crashed a paid protester meeting and this is part one.

• 41:38Speaker 22

  Oh, we're having our little meeting. All right, guys, we're going to the paid protester meeting right now. All the signs are there and they're discussing what's gonna be happening at this protest.

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• 42:51Speaker 22

  Okay.

• 42:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, wow. Look at that.

• 42:54Speaker 22

  Palestine flag.

• 42:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Just watch. Look at that.

• 42:56Speaker 22

  How's it going?

• 42:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Ready to go.

• 42:58Speaker 22

  Is this where the protest is starting? Uh, yeah. What's the plan for today? Sorry, I'm not gonna... We can't really talk right now. We're set up. How come?

• 43:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch what he does.

• 43:09Speaker 22

  How come you can't talk?

• 43:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Just goes right in the middle of him.

• 43:12Speaker 22

  How come you can't talk?

• 43:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And watch what he finds out about one of the guys.

• 43:15Speaker 22

  We're setting up? So what are we discussing? We talked to a press person. Who's the press person? I don't know right now, but I can find out for you. Okay, I'll be here. So none of you guys want to say what you're protesting for? You just gotta talk to a press liaison. Sorry. Why do I have to talk to a press person? I feel like you would know because you're protesting.

• 43:34Speaker 22

  Just tell me. We're man to man. Tell me why you can't talk. And did they tell you you can't talk?

• 43:41Speaker 22

  Do you guys work with the People's Forum?

• 43:44Speaker 22

  Who do you work with?

• 43:46Speaker 22

  Who do you guys work with?

• 43:48Speaker 21

  He's shaking his head that he can't say who he works with without a press liaison. It's okay, Victor. You work for the party of socialism and liberation, and you want to be a professor. And seeing as you refer to yourself as an undocumented immigrant from Mexico, I imagine that ICE might have some time for you.

• 44:06Speaker 21

  You're an actual communist. And when your comrades started chanting a genocidal threat, I found you again.

• 44:13Speaker 22

  Oh, Israel will fall. Now we're just saying that. That's a new one. What does Israel will fall mean?

• 44:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this guy.

• 44:19Speaker 22

  What does Israel will fall mean? Is that, is that a call for violence?

• 44:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it.

• 44:24Speaker 22

  Israel will fall a call for violence?

• 44:26Patrick Bet-David?

  So, what's the guys on the

• 44:27Adam Sosnick?

  Shout out to this guy Nate Friedman. Great job. I see him on the streets. Congrats Nate.

• 44:31Patrick Bet-David?

  This is, um, this is the part about this. Just tell us what you stand for. Tell us your ideas. Missed opportunity, absolute embarrassing. They should have done a better job than what they did. They could have done better. They didn't. They screwed up.

• 44:45Speaker 06

  Can I ask you a really quick question?

• 44:46Adam Sosnick?

  Do you see what this kid says real quick before we move on Nate Friedman? Look at the last thing he has to write on his profile.

• 44:50Speaker 06

  Would never take my life.

• 44:51Adam Sosnick?

  I would never take my, think about that for a second. In a modern day America, when you're going against the fascists, the actual fascists, you have to put on your Instagram profile, hey, by the way, this is what I do. This is where I'm at in New York, by the way, uh, would never take my own life.

• 45:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Good.

• 45:06Adam Sosnick?

  That's where we're at in society right now.

• 45:07Speaker 06

  Let me ask you a question about just really, really fast. With what they're doing, it's obviously not working. You were talking about business plans and the business planning workshop that's coming, the phone calls that you're getting with, with, uh, potential ex, uh, mayor candidates and all that type of stuff. If you're the Democratic Party, enough of this stuff, fat, right now, what would you be doing to get those voters that are on the other side to try to be like, okay, like, what would be a move? What would be a game plan for you to do?

• 45:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I hope they continue doing this because all this is doing is helping the Republican Party.

• 45:35Speaker 06

  But if you were a Democrat and you know, this is like, like you

• 45:37Patrick Bet-David?

  If I'm a Democrat?

• 45:38Speaker 06

  If you're a Democrat right now, Pat, you're leading the charge right now.

• 45:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you a story. Let me tell you a story. It is 2009 and I have, uh, this, this, uh, two people in the group who in my office, they're super negative.

• 45:54Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 45:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Super negative. And I like these guys a lot, but they're super negative. So one day I hold an emergency meeting and the people that are there, whoever watches, they'll remember this. I sat everybody down and I said, can I ask you a question? I said, y'all, what's up? I said, why are you doing this? I started off with five people that know exactly why they're doing it. And I finished it with the two people that are the most negative people in the room. And I want them to either leave or make a decision. And one by one by one, I'm doing this for my mom. I'm doing this for my dad. I'm doing this for this. I'm doing this for that. It's getting very emotional in the room. I said, okay, great. So you're doing this because you want to do X, Y, Z for I do. All right. Finally it gets to the last one. I said, why are you doing this? Oh, oh, oh, oh, why are you doing this? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I said, then why are you putting yourself through this? Why are you here? You look miserable.

• 46:41Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're miserable being here, buddy, you're not forced to be here. Go home. Go do something else you can get excited about. But why are you doing this? Those two walked off and they quit. The other five who stuck around, they all became multimillionaires. Okay? What's the moral of the story? Here's the moral of the story.

• 47:04Patrick Bet-David?

  The other guys have to get to the bottom. By the way, this was a two-hour conversation with seven people.

• 47:10Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 47:11Patrick Bet-David?

  They have to find out why they're doing this. If you don't, you're not gonna pay the price. You're not gonna work that hard. Democrats have to truly sit down and ask, what do you actually believe in? Not, well, what's gonna be a good angle against Republicans? No, no, no. What do you believe in? Like, if you ask me what I believe in, I'm gonna tell you what I believe in. If I ask you what you believe in, you're gonna tell me what you believe in. If I ask him what are the most important values? I've seen Rob evolve over the last nearly four... Rob, how many years have you been here now? Is it four years? No shit, it's four years already? Yep. Okay, four years. I saw Rob driving. How many hours away were you driving coming down here at the beginning?

• 47:48Adam Sosnick?

  This guy was driving all over, man. Three and a half each way.

• 47:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Three and a half hours. He would come and leave. So, but I would, you know, if they can't get to the bottom of the emotion... I had a call with a candidate this weekend. I said, "Listen, here's what I would be doing. When you're telling the story, tell me the story. Resonate with me. Emotions, heart-based. Why are you doing this? You look miserable. If it looks like it's work, don't do it. People will feel it." Democrats right now are clueless. And if you took the list, if they did it logically, it's not gonna resonate. If they did it actually emotionally, to go back and say, "When I was 16 years old, my parents went through X, Y, Z, and I picked up this one book and I read it, and it changed my life.

• 48:35Patrick Bet-David?

  At 18 years old, I went through this. At 22, I did this. By 28, I did this. And I'm now 49 years old, and that thing matters to me more today than it mattered to me at 16 years old. And I wanna talk to the 16-year-old. I wanna talk to the 28-year-old. I wanna talk to the... It's gotta be something like that. They don't know how to speak this language. They don't know how to speak this language, and it's unfortunate because it's almost like a couples retreat, and the Democrats, you know which couple, couples retreats they are? They're Jon Favreau and his girl.

• 49:04Patrick Bet-David?

  That they're together only because they're waiting for their daughter to be 18 years old, leave the house to get the divorce.

• 49:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 49:08Patrick Bet-David?

  They look like they're miserable together, miserable together. Right there, those guys, zoom in on that one, Rob. Uh, uh, the one to the, no, you had the picture, Rob, right there, right there.

• 49:18Tom Ellsworth?

  No, John Farrow, right there.

• 49:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You just had it, right there.

• 49:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Right there.

• 49:20Speaker 17

  Rob Miller, ah! It's okay, it's okay.

• 49:23Patrick Bet-David?

  That one right there, yeah, those guys right there. That's the couple. That's the Democratic Party right there. You're looking at them. Okay, if you go back and look at them, that's their story. Tom, I'll give you the final word on that movie.

• 49:33Adam Sosnick?

  Vince Vaughn in that movie was the, he was the guy, the ass.

• 49:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 49:36Tom Ellsworth?

  You're absolutely right. And the final word I have, as I go back to it again, feeling. You know, you're out there with feeling and you're not selling anything. You're, you're, you're selling the fact that I'm so upset, I'm so upset. This is like an old, old book that was Men is from Mars, Women are from Venus, talking about women were very emotional and there's different things that went with that, that both, both had their pluses, both have their strengths, we understand each other and we live better in this universe called a relationship. That's possible, but it's not happening right now because there's nothing that they're selling. They're selling anger, they're selling retribution, they're selling all this, there's nothing that they're selling and it makes no sense.

• 50:17Tom Ellsworth?

  I love the thing Couples Retreat with that because I heard about this weekend, this couple, 88 and 91 years old, in front of a judge in Miami, and they said, "We want to get divorced." And he said, "How long have you been married?" "62 years." "You've been married 62 years and you're just getting a divorce now? Why now?" "Well, we were waiting till the kids died." So, it's like, it's the irrationality of the Democrats. Makes no sense whatsoever, right? And that's what it is. They're, they're out there selling feeling and screaming and they can't even sell it. They have to give these people props to walk around and they don't know what the props mean.

• 50:57Adam Sosnick?

  I'll give you one quick anecdote, it's not sustainable, I'll tell you why. All weekend, randomly, had nothing to do with King's, uh, No Kings protest, friends of mine, liberal friends, texting me left and right. Adam, you actually write about Trump. Hey, bro, I want to apologize. Hey, buddy.

• 51:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, they're coming around now?

• 51:12Adam Sosnick?

  Trump's my guy now.

• 51:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, they're coming around. Weird.

• 51:14Adam Sosnick?

  Much how I came around over the last few years. I'm getting these texts now. And I feel like I'm sort of the sounding board because these guys, because I'm sort of like the poster child for being sort of a liberal when you're young and then, you know, your brain taking over.

• 51:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 51:26Adam Sosnick?

  And actually using logic. And they're usually, they're sort of coming to me as like a, it's okay, tell me I'm okay. I'm like, it's all good. Come on aboard.

• 51:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 51:33Adam Sosnick?

  Because common sense will take over after, after whatever it may be. There's always going to be a tipping point. And I'm so proud of my friends. One of them goes, you know what it was for me? I had to remove my ego. My ego was getting in the way of me saying, you know what? I was wrong. This kid was protesting against Trump in 2016. Pro Hillary. He's married, not gay, I should say, four kids, family man. And he said, and it took him just till now to say, I was wrong about Trump. And my opinion is, this is going to happen more and more and more. Regarding these protests, it's just old white boomers who are basically at, at Woodstock back in the day, who've been indoctrinated for 40 years from the left-wing media.

• 52:14Adam Sosnick?

  You have the Hamas sympathizers and you have the woke progressives teamed up for this Big Ten Party, Party of Chaos and progressive and communism. And for me, uh, this is not sustainable because any logic will tell you this is all going to fall apart.

• 52:29Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's get to the next story here. Next story I want to get into is Bill Ackman says Curtis Sliwa must drop out of the New York City race or Mumdani will be the next mayor. Okay, so now, this is Bill Ackman, Rob, if you got the clip. $10 billion man, here's what he had to say. If Curtis drops out of the country, we can win. If he doesn't, we are toast. Uh, this is what it looks like right now from the poly market with Sliwa in. Less than 1% Cuomo, 9% Mumdani, 89.7%. So, so in other words, Cuomo is 9Xing Sliwa. Okay, 9Xing Sliwa, it's where it's at. And I don't know if he is-

• 53:05Adam Sosnick?

  What word you said? 9Xing?

• 53:06Patrick Bet-David?

  9Xing.

• 53:07Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, 9Xing, gotcha.

• 53:09Patrick Bet-David?

  9Xing Sliwa.

• 53:10Adam Sosnick?

  Sorry about that.

• 53:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, which means like he is nine times ahead of Sliwa. Which clip is this, Rob?

• 53:15Speaker 04

  This is Curtis, uh, responding to Bill Ackman's calls for him to drop out of the race.

• 53:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 53:19Speaker 21

  However, I think it is clear to New Yorkers who are against Mumdani that you and Cuomo are splitting the anti-Mumdani vote. So my question is simple. Are you okay if Mumdani wins that you, so to speak, contributed to that?

• 53:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, number one-

• 53:35Speaker 23

  Ackman is a jerk. Oh, great. Has he been right yet? Here's a guy who goes up to Newport, Rhode Island, and thinks he's a professional tennis player. Come on, Ackman, stay in your lane. Does he know anything about politics? No. Does he live in New York City? No. He lives in Chapaka, the whitest suburb of America, where even the lawn jockeys are white. He may know Wall Street. He may know hedge funds. He has been wrong every step of the way with the billionaires. So let's say people come to the conclusion, if somehow I lose, and we know Andrew Cuomo's lost, he's already tossed into town. Oh, it's because of you, Curtis. Because of... Really? It's because of the Democrats. What are they saying? Who created Zohran Mandami? Who embraced him?

• 54:20Speaker 23

  Who nourished him? Who supported him? And how dare you, people who know nothing about politics, suggest that everybody who's gonna vote for me is suddenly gonna be reborn? We love Andrew Cuomo. He killed all these elderly. The sexual harassment. He told conservatives and Republicans in 2014, "If you're conservative, and you believe in right to life and the Second Amendment, you have no place in New York. You need to leave." This is the result of the Democrats' self-destruction. So I'm supposed to help them? How come they don't help themselves? Andrew Cuomo failed everybody in that primary. He even admitted it.

• 55:05Speaker 23

  Now he's basically saying, "I can't win without Sleewa votes." Where are your votes? Why don't you spend your money? And he's got millions from the billionaires. Millions. Go out, get your own vote. Convert Sleewa voters. But for me to drop out? I represent a major party line. I have people running under me. Council people, judges. They put their heart and soul into it. They support me. I have more donations than Andrew Cuomo does.

• 55:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what do you think about what he's saying?

• 55:35Tom Ellsworth?

  This is a pretty logical takedown of the situation and he's incensed that he would, you know, be asked to drop out and sacrifice himself for somebody he regards to be a mortal political enemy. And so you see he's incensed, but there's a point that he does make there at the end. He said, "Look, there's a lot of judges and people that are behind me that are supporting me because we're trying to get conservative judges and conservative assemblymen and get something in there." So I understand that, but I also understand that, you know, beyond it being the mortal enemy, you know, the notion, and I don't like the way the

• 56:17Tom Ellsworth?

  question was phrased, "Do you think you're responsible for Mondami if you don't drop out?" Wait a minute. Pat, he's asking me, saying, "Wait a minute. Do you think it's your fault?" And so I think that's the wrong angle of the question because it's not going to be Curtis Sliwa's fault. You know, it's the friggin' voters voted for it. And I look at Curtis there and he's like, "Wait a minute. You can't make it my part because I won't drop out to help you, a mortal enemy that I've been campaigning against all my life." Now, logically, does it make sense? For what Bill Ackman says, it does logically make sense, but I don't think there's enough time left. They got, was it, Pat, barely three weeks to the election? Barely three weeks?

• 57:00Speaker 06

  And Tom, you're-

• 57:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Logically, it makes sense. If Sliwa will drop out and there could be a surge of understanding of the position of Andrew Cuomo and he can present the guy that I think he is underneath and do a better job of presenting that guy to the voters, I think you're going to close this up. But Sliwa was kind of giving you a history lesson. This guy's my political enemy.

• 57:27Speaker 06

  Tom, Tom always does this to me, Pat, so I'm gonna do it back to him, Tom. Words talk, numbers scream. Let's do a little math. Can you grab your pen for a second?

• 57:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, wow.

• 57:34Speaker 06

  Even if, Tom, Zohran Mamdani is polymarket, Robbie has it up right now, 93.2%.

• 57:40Tom Ellsworth?

  This is odds. This isn't percent.

• 57:41Speaker 06

  Hold on, odds, odds. Ready for this? Let's just be real. If Andrew Cuomo's at 5.3, if Curtis drops out and he gets that 0.7, that's gonna put him where, Tom?

• 57:50Tom Ellsworth?

  No, these are odds. These are odds of victory, not percent of the poll.

• 57:54Patrick Bet-David?

  But he's asking you. What he's asking you is, if, if, it's a very fair question, but this is confusing to the average voter. But, Tom, if Sliwa- Drops out, where does Cuomo's odds go to from 5.3%?

• 58:07Speaker 06

  In less than a month, out.

• 58:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Two weeks.

• 58:09Speaker 06

  Two weeks, I'm sorry, Tommy.

• 58:11Patrick Bet-David?

  What is, what is the take to?

• 58:13Tom Ellsworth?

  I think his, I think his odds go up, but right now, this is showing that barring some crazy thing, there's a 93% chance with three weeks to go, that the 53, 57% that um, uh, Mondami has is gonna get him there.

• 58:31Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 58:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, I think Cuomo would end up here like 40, 42, maybe?

• 58:35Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 58:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Of to, of vote.

• 58:36Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 58:37Tom Ellsworth?

  And I think it's gonna be like 42, 56.

• 58:40Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 58:41Tom Ellsworth?

  You know?

• 58:41Speaker 06

  That's a big, Tom, that's, uh, what I'm saying is, the saying daily dollar.

• 58:47Tom Ellsworth?

  I think, I think there's, there's time, there's only three weeks left, but there's time.

• 58:50Speaker 06

  But does it seem like Silva, uh, uh, with that interview, with that attitude? He ain't, he's not doing anything that, that anybody else wants to do, and he's right, Tom. It's yours to win, the game plan, you can't wait till fourth quarter, two minutes left to be like, okay, now we're gonna do what we should, we know that we should have done from the beginning. Come on, it's a little late, it's a little late.

• 59:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, and he's, he's being asked the question, do you think you're responsible for his victory? Wait a minute, I ran as a Republican, I ran in the primary, I won the primary, and he was a candidate.

• 59:20Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, nothing about what Curtis said.

• 59:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Rob, go back to the.

• 59:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Is wrong.

• 59:24Tom Ellsworth?

  You're right.

• 59:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Nothing.

• 59:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 59:26Patrick Bet-David?

  About what he said is wrong, but here's also the thing, he doesn't stand a chance.

• 59:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Mm-hmm.

• 59:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Nothing about what he said is wrong, but also he doesn't stand a chance. And going after Bill Ackman's tennis game, I don't care what Bill Ackman's tennis game is. And he says he's not a, you know, he doesn't have the, you know, when, when has he been right? He's pretty right about Trump.

• 59:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah.

• 59:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, and he, he was willing Curtis for him to step aside and go and defend Trump, even though he was a liberal donor for many, many years. So guess what? He ended up being right on going on Trump's side.

• 59:59Tom Ellsworth?

  He was right about the Ivy League colleges, it wouldn't protect the Jewish students.

• 1:00:03Patrick Bet-David?

  But I'm gonna tell you this, I'm gonna tell you this, the, the conversation would be, a level-headed person needs to have a call with, uh, Sliwa, that Sliwa respects to say. What job do you think you would be able to have positive, direct impact with if you got that job? What would be the job that you feel like you could have positive impact with? What would that be? Okay? If Cuomo wins, you get this job. What would that job be? A level-headed person needs to have that conversation. And by the way, don't forget, there's one more debate coming up. I'm gonna be watching that debate. It's on Wednesday. I agree 100%. I'm gonna be watching that debate. I'm gonna be watching that debate myself and I'm hoping that Andrew Cuomo comes out and connects with people. I mean, this is a guy, you know, the toughest part about being Andrew Cuomo is the following.

• 1:00:47Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what's the toughest part? Everybody knows his dirt. It's so public. It's like, look, you already know what happened with the old folks homes during COVID. You know the sexual things that's out there. You know everything and anything that they want to talk about. There's so many shots that they can take at him. He has to dig deep. This is the last one. There's a lot of pressure on him because I bet the one person he's talking to a lot when he's private by himself. You know who I believe he's talking to a lot right now when he's by himself? To his father. Nope, to his father. Who's no longer with us. He's talking to Mario. He's saying, Dad, what do you want me to do? What do I do? I bet he's talking to his dad. Probably. He's doing this for his dad. Why did he become a governor? Because he wanted to be his dad.

• 1:01:30Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the ultimate compliment to a father when your son wants to be like you? Yup. Whether you like the guy or not, it's a different story. Here's what you do know. What you get with Cuomo. Cuomo wanted those Amazon 25,000 jobs at $150,000 coming to New York City. De Blasio and AOC didn't want it. Yup. They left. Cuomo wants the economy in New York to be better. Cuomo wants to help those sides. Yes, we probably are not on the same path politically on a lot of different things. You know what we do know about Mamdani? Here's what we do know with Mamdani. Who did Mamdani just take a picture with, Rob? Can you show this, please? Who did Mamdani just take a picture with?

• 1:02:05Speaker 06

  Iman Siraj Wahaj.

• 1:02:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, can you tell us who that is?

• 1:02:08Speaker 06

  So this, the guy that he's smiling with, guys, is the same guy the FBI named as an unindicted co-conspirator.

• 1:02:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you zoom in a little bit more, Rob?

• 1:02:14Speaker 06

  Yeah, the right guy, the guy on the right.

• 1:02:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:16Speaker 06

  1993 World Trade Bombing, six people were killed.

• 1:02:19Adam Sosnick?

  And the white cultural garb.

• 1:02:20Speaker 06

  Yeah, over 1,000 injured, and this is who he's posing with. Last week, he was talking shit, sorry for my language, about Cuomo and never going to mosque. That's you, homie. You're there with a freaking guy that was a co-conspirator that killed six freaking American New Yorkers and 1,000 other injured, okay? And it's not taken out of context, alright? He has a long history of extremist rhetoric. He actually called homosexuality a disease, and he preached about punishment under Islamic law, okay? That's unbelievable, unbelievable. Every New Yorker out there, I want that to sink in. If you're a real New Yorker, and you're out there, and you're like, okay, and you nailed

• 1:03:00Speaker 06

  it, Pat, yeah, Cuomo effed up with the nursing homes and all that other stuff, okay, we get that. You don't even know what you guys are getting into right now. This is, this is, that right there sums up his entire freaking campaign. He knows who that guy is. He's not stupid, that wasn't an accident. He's letting everybody know, I'm cool with all these guys. So, good for you, good for you, and I'm happy that that came out.

• 1:03:22Patrick Bet-David?

  So, here's where I'm going. You know what we don't know about Mamdani?

• 1:03:26Speaker 06

  This type of shit.

• 1:03:27Patrick Bet-David?

  A lot of things.

• 1:03:27Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:03:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And guess, guess what?

• 1:03:29Speaker 06

  With that smile.

• 1:03:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Guess what's gonna happen to New York City? Who do you think, who do you think loves New York City more?

• 1:03:36Speaker 06

  Cuomo.

• 1:03:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Cuomo or Mamdani?

• 1:03:38Speaker 06

  Cuomo, he's not even from here, Pat. Like, what are you talking about?

• 1:03:41Patrick Bet-David?

  So, who do you think has a richer history that would be willing to do almost anything for that city? Him or Cuomo? The betting odds are on Cuomo.

• 1:03:51Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:03:51Patrick Bet-David?

  But I tell you, Cuomo's gotta show up on Wednesday. He's gotta show up on Wednesday. In a way, you gotta talk to this, not this.

• 1:04:00Speaker 06

  Yup.

• 1:04:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's where we gotta go. We go here, and then, you know, a couple other things that need to happen as well between now and then, but that's a different, I don't wanna announce it publicly, but we'll see what's gonna happen. Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:04:11Adam Sosnick?

  Well, you know, you asked the question of who loves New York City more, Zorin Mamdani or Andrew Cuomo? I would give the, I would say the answer is Curtis Lee. I would say he actually loves New York City more. So if I'm Curtis Lee, when putting myself in his shoes, this whole situation right here about him dropping out of the race. You mean to tell me, I start this race, I'm a nobody, I've never finished anywhere near the top of a mayoral race. All of a sudden, this guardian angel turned this do-gooder in the city. You want me to drop out of the race now after everything I've done? Really? Um, yes, you should. Because he's the type of person that actually probably cares more about the city than your own personal ambitions. So, you know, you see someone like John Fetterman these days saying, yeah, I'm a Democrat, but I care more about my country than I do my, my party.

• 1:04:56Adam Sosnick?

  I think Curtis Lee should get the message where he should care more about his city than he should have his personal ambitions. Uh, I believe that, um, Zoran Mandani has this billion dollar smile. And it is very effective and is very contagious. The problem is with this billion dollar smile, it's going to cost you probably $10 billion of all the people that are moving out of New York City. New York City is going to suffer. And the whole concept that this guy, this communist Islamist, uh, Mamdani, that this is just sort of like some bug. I can't believe that they're voting for this. This is what New York City wants. This is the feature. This is why they're voting for him. So in my opinion, New York City is, is in a whole, a whole bunch of mess right now.

• 1:05:38Adam Sosnick?

  And unless Andrew Cuomo can somehow resonate with the hearts and minds of the young people in New York City, Zoran Mamdani will be your mayor.

• 1:05:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. I love your point and I'll give you this last shot because I think it goes right with the story and we can transition on. Who said, I will revive the economy, I will rebuild the armed forces and I will provide strong leadership. If you'll just make me your prime minister, if you'll just do that for me. And he said it to the Italian people in 1922. Mussolini. Correct. They knew nothing about him and he had run this fascist newspaper and he was hidden. And when it came into plain sight and he started, he had a secret police started killing people behind it. They didn't know then, and so you know what? History has got times, and I'm not saying Mandavi is going to start killing people. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying when you don't know enough about who you're voting for, you're putting yourself in

• 1:06:28Adam Sosnick?

  You know what I think, PBD, you bring up a good point. You know what I think you would do? And I think this is something that a lot of people would, if you can remove your ego. He called out Bill Ackman, Curtis Lee, what? I know that Andrew Cuomo has been sort of reconsidering what he should be doing. There should be a sit down with the people who actually love New York City. Whether it's Cuomo, whether it's Lee, whether it's Ackman, whoever it is, bring in a Rudy Giuliani, whatever it is. And have a conversation of guys, how can we actually make New York City great again? Cause it's about to go the way of London and let me know how that's working out for the UK.

• 1:07:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's crazy you're saying that because you know what movie I just watched over the weekend? I watched Truth and Treason. Which is an Angel Studio movie. I didn't know it was Angel. And I went and watched it yesterday. Oh my God.

• 1:07:13Adam Sosnick?

  Really?

• 1:07:14Patrick Bet-David?

  What? The story of Helmut Hubner. Let me tell you, Vinny.

• 1:07:20Adam Sosnick?

  It's worth watching.

• 1:07:21Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I can't even describe to you what happened at the end of the movie. I was shaken by it.

• 1:07:25Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, then I'm on to watch it.

• 1:07:26Patrick Bet-David?

  If me and Tico are sitting there watching this with my dad, my dad had to walk up like 75 steps. Because the theater we went into, I felt like I was back in Santa Monica doing 177 steps. It was so high. My dad's like, what are you doing to me? And I got little G. We had to get this lady to get up because she was an E. I'm like, I would replace it with your E, but she went to E. Anyways. We watch this movie, movie ends. We can't get up. This guy at 17 years old called out Hitler. And he was the youngest guy who stood up against Hitler. And in court in front of the judge, he calls out the judge because he was the guy that was handing out the pamphlets. These red pamphlets.

• 1:08:05Adam Sosnick?

  Like propaganda stuff?

• 1:08:07Patrick Bet-David?

  No, for telling him that, because he got access to a radio. And you couldn't hear what was going on outside of Germany because the only that controlled the radio. So the people couldn't find out what's going on, similar to what's going on in China, Cuba, a couple of other places. And he starts writing out these pamphlets. They cannot believe it's a 16 year old kid doing this. He was creating the change in Hamburg. And they're like, there's no way in the world you're doing this. This guy was a Mormon. That's the craziest part. What? Yes. He was a Mormon. Latter day saints. It's the weirdest story connection, by the way. And then you know what happens when he's in front of the judge, he stands up? No. He says, do you have anything? His lawyer says, read this letter, apologize, you'll get one year in jail. He gets up.

• 1:08:52Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, no. You're the problem, Germany's gonna lose, you know you're gonna lose, you're gonna lose. He said, the judge, there's this awesome scene. By the way, every actor crushed it, and I knew none of the actors. I'm telling you, every actor crushed it. I knew none of the actors. I knew none of the actors. He was the youngest kid to be killed at seventeen years old. You know how they killed him? Rob, can you pull up how they killed him? Go to his, go to his, how did they kill him?

• 1:09:20Adam Sosnick?

  He was executed by beheading.

• 1:09:22Patrick Bet-David?

  That's exactly how he was executed. At the age of seventeen, by the Nazi regime. And he was a Mormon. He wasn't a Jew, he was a Mormon. Because one of his friends that he played with was a Jew. And they, they heard it, the moral of the story is, right now, America's going through some funny stuff. You know, social people are confused a little bit, especially younger kids that are on social media. You don't really know what's going on, you don't know the history. By the way, take your kids and go watch this movie with your kids. I'm so glad, I will go back to watch it again with some, if you wanna go back, I'm gonna go with you on Tico. You know what Tico, what score Tico gave it? He said, Dad, this is the perfect movie, I can't give it a less than. Get out of here. He doesn't give tens. Okay, I'm down. He doesn't give tens. I'm telling you, this just came out a couple of days ago. I'll wait to watch it.

• 1:10:07Patrick Bet-David?

  It could've come out this weekend. What a frickin' ridiculous movie. Oh my God. Okay, I'll watch it.

• 1:10:13Adam Sosnick?

  It came out on a great day.

• 1:10:14Patrick Bet-David?

  It's the best movie I've seen, it's the best movie I've seen all year. Nothing's even close to it.

• 1:10:18Adam Sosnick?

  I'm not putting, saying this movie, but we've done multiple movies as a company. We've done Air.

• 1:10:23Patrick Bet-David?

  This isn't a movie as a company thing.

• 1:10:24Adam Sosnick?

  But, but this movie.

• 1:10:26Patrick Bet-David?

  This, all I'm saying is, all I'm saying is, yeah, we'll do that, that's a different story. But the whole thing with, uh, uh, uh, New York is, so many people in New York City don't know, look at the score. By people and by professionals. Okay, I'm gonna go watch it. It's, it seriously is a ridiculous movie. Okay. Um, anyways.

• 1:10:44Adam Sosnick?

  Mandate?

• 1:10:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:45Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, cool.

• 1:10:46Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll see what's gonna happen in New York City. I'm definitely gonna be watching a podcast, watching a debate. I hope it's not none of, none of those shitty NBC debates where they're not gonna let him talk. I hope they let him talk. Anyways, let's get to the next story here. Next story I wanna get to is...

• 1:11:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Maxwell and Epstein pleaded for Virginia Giuffre to have our baby, prompting teen to hatch escape plan memoir. Okay, Rob, do you have a clip on this?

• 1:11:15Speaker 04

  I do. This is an old interview because Virginia Giuffre is dead. The book just came out after her death, but this is an interview.

• 1:11:23Patrick Bet-David?

  She wrote the book?

• 1:11:23Speaker 04

  She did before she died. Yes, it's her memoirs.

• 1:11:26Patrick Bet-David?

  It's her memoir and then she dies and then it comes out.

• 1:11:29Speaker 06

  She gets hit by a bus. Liv says, I'm not going to kill myself and then she kills herself. Weird.

• 1:11:35Speaker 04

  But this is an old interview with her where she talks about Jeffrey Epstein wanting her to have his kid.

• 1:11:40Speaker 24

  From 16 to 19, Virginia was at the mercy of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. Entrapped by psychological chains she could not break until they made this outrageous proposal.

• 1:11:54Speaker 25

  So I spent years with them being manipulated and abused and used. And it wasn't until they told me, I want you to have a baby and we're going to give you an allowance, but we also need you to sign a piece of paper that says this child does not belong to you. Wow. And, you know, I wasn't a maternal person back then, but I was like, my womb is not for sale. But you cannot say no to these people. So I said, okay, guys, no problem. But I need to finish off my education like you guys originally promised.

• 1:12:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. Okay, so that comes out devilish duo Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell pleaded a teenage to have our baby request that had their victim concerned. They were looking to breed children for their sex trafficking ring to prevent it. The perverted proposal came along. This is a New York Post story along with promise of round the clock nannies, a mansion and a $200,000 a month allowance stamp. But Giuffre would have to sign all legal rights to the child over to Epstein. Everything about Epstein and Maxwell brazen request felt wrong. Giuffre penned in a Memoir, "Nobody's Girl", "There's no way I wanted to bring a child into the world for them to raise", "What if the baby were a female", "What was the plan",

• 1:13:12Patrick Bet-David?

  "What was the plan for Epstein and Maxwell to have the, bless you", "Bring that little girl up until she reached puberty", "And then she hand over for them to abuse", "You're afraid then 18", "That's pretty",

• 1:13:22Speaker 06

  Oh my god, like, She's worried, Pat, that the baby that, because that's how sick this guy was, "That she was worried that if the baby came out and was a female, they would traffic their ba-" Like, okay, "So her book is called 'Nobody's Girl', "It comes out October 21st", "It lays out everything that happened", "She claims in the memoir that he forced", "She was forced into an orgy with Epstein", "Prince Andrew", "And eight trafficked girls who appeared to be underage", "Who barely spoke any English", "Okay, on the island", "She says that night ended with her waking up in a pool of blood", "And losing her baby", "Tom, this is all, by the way, the book comes out on the 21st, like I mentioned", "She also revealed that Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell", "Approached her about the baby", "You guys heard about that", "And then, this is where it gets a little crazy",

• 1:14:04Speaker 06

  "She was ordered to escort a well-known prime minister", "Who the New York Post suggests may have been", "Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak", "To a cabana on Epstein's island in 2002 where she was 18 years old", "At least she was of age", "I'm not condoning it, but thank God she was of age, at least", "In her account, he became violent", "Beating and choking her until she passed out", "While laughing at her in fear and pain", "And she begged Epstein to step in", "And told her it was part of her job", "Like, shut up, this is what you're supposed to do", "She described being left bleeding from her mouth and her body", "Days after", "Okay, and we all know that there's, you know", "Barak acknowledged, knowing Epstein", "There's photos of him coming out of his apartment in 2016 in New York, Manhattan", "Anyway",

• 1:14:49Tom Ellsworth?

  So this is the Post, the New York Post, "Newspaper making the allegation that it was even",

• 1:14:53Speaker 06

  Well, I mean, Tom, well, Tom, "She has for years said that there's this prime minister", "The connection, you could go, by the way, that's all allegedly on your own", "But it's like, which other well-known prime minister is it gonna be", "And then, as for Prince Andrew, Pat, this is weird", "Last week",

• 1:15:07Patrick Bet-David?

  While you're doing this, Rob, can you pull up which? Major prime ministers had a relationship with Epstein. You keep going, keep looking for that.

• 1:15:14Speaker 06

  And as a Prince Andrew, last week, I'm like, Pat, guys, every, you have to really take a step back and see when something happens, wait for the other thing to happen. Prince Andrew last week gave up his title as Duke of York. He just came out and he's like, yeah, this is it right before this book is coming out. You notice that? Think about the timing. All right. He already paid Gufray undisclosed settlement in 2022. And now the UK authorities are investigating claims that he told one of his taxpayer funded police officers to dig up dirt on Gufray the night before the infamous photo of him and her came out. So think about that. He knows the photo's coming out. He knows he's cooked, so he's hiring people to go after her and get her dirt to make her look like she's bad.

• 1:15:58Speaker 06

  That's the type of mentality this guy's coming up. And we already know the royal family, Pat, they're not, right now, it's a little madness. The king has cancer. He's not doing well. His brother is dealing with this.

• 1:16:08Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, Prince William, who's in line for the crown, wants nothing to do. You can go see it. There's public statements made and positioning. He would appear is not an ally of his uncle at all.

• 1:16:23Speaker 06

  Zero.

• 1:16:23Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, the Duke of York, Pat, that title is given to the second in line, the second son in line. So in other words, if it was your family and there was a standard inheritance, Dylan would be Duke of York. That's for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years, means you're second in line. And for them to strip him of this is a really big deal. And if William is, if William is king, the speculation is he may turn loose the dogs and let Andrew be prosecuted.

• 1:16:54Speaker 06

  Well, because reports are saying that, yeah, he might, Pat, he also, Tommy, might be forced to evict.

• 1:16:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Furious about what he's done to the name.

• 1:17:00Speaker 06

  He might evict Prince Andrew from the Windsor Mansion, the royal lodge, just to protect what, what reputation the family has left, okay? And now to make things worse, there's headlines that are resurfacing that Epstein secretly bankrolled Andrew's ex-wife, Sarah Ferguson, for 15 years, funneling her millions after his crimes were public. They knew who Epstein was. They were still taking uh money, okay? And the royal insiders say that Beatrice, Princess Beatrice and Eugene are devastated and humiliated. And now here's the thing, guys. Isn't it weird? She was the last one that was actually like, I mean, there's other victims, but she was the most prominent voice. She gets hit by a bus. She says that she doesn't want to kill herself. And then at 41 years old, guys, they kill herself.

• 1:17:40Speaker 06

  And then fast forward to Pam Bondi and all these freaking Casper tells, no, there's videos. There's no videos. He was sex trafficking people to himself. I think it's horse shit and it's still, and I'm so happy that they're still bringing it up. The stories are still coming out.

• 1:17:54Patrick Bet-David?

  New York Post.

• 1:17:55Speaker 06

  I love that they did that.

• 1:17:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Good for, but you know who owns New York Post?

• 1:17:58Speaker 06

  Who?

• 1:17:58Patrick Bet-David?

  News Corp.

• 1:17:59Speaker 06

  Really?

• 1:18:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you didn't know that?

• 1:18:01Speaker 06

  I had no idea.

• 1:18:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, I think they do.

• 1:18:02Speaker 06

  But I think it's, and again, guys, with Gaza, with the world, with no kings with everything. We have to always come back and we're never going to stop talking about it. These people are disgusting. The, the level of their blackmail, what they were doing. Look now, but God rest her soul. She's dead, but her memoir is still coming out. The story is still going to come out and hopefully there's enough things to keep this freaking thing going. So that these people get held accountable. Okay, he's still, what? That's again, I love it.

• 1:18:30Patrick Bet-David?

  This is good that this is happening. Rob, do me a favor. There's another story about Leon Black. I don't know if you saw this or not. So Leon Black, who, Rob, if you just type in Leon Black and Epstein on Google, look what comes up. Just type in Leon Black and Epstein on Google and look what comes up. So Leon Black and Epstein, he had given him uh, uh, to me on the AI review at the top. Leon Black's a private equity investor who paid 158 million dollars to Epstein. And resigned from his roles at Apollo Global Management and the Museum of Modern Art following the television of their, the revolution of their connection. Black had also contributed a letter to Epstein's 2025 birthday book. A collection of letters and notes that released publicly later that year.

• 1:19:13Patrick Bet-David?

  So why would somebody pay 158 million dollars? I think it ended up being 170 million dollars. Look what it says for, for. Purported tax and estate planning advice according to a 2025 report. That's a lot of money to be paid for that. Then messages comes out, Rob, if you want to go through those messages. This is an email excerpt from Epstein to Leon Black. I never want to have any more uncomfortable moments with you. I find it very distasteful. So to be clear, my terms are as follows. I will only work for the usual 40 million per year. It needs to be paid 25 million upon signing an agreement. 5 million every two months thereafter for six months. Uh, March, May, June. This can begin if I'm able in January. I will immediately stop work if the payment is not received. Go to the next one.

• 1:19:58Patrick Bet-David?

  At least for a few weeks, I am unable to commit much time and make any future plans to guide you in the redoing of your procrastination produced mess. What does that mean? That being said, the tasks at hand are the following. You have a bomb of color string that your retarded children have formed. Is that really what it says?

• 1:20:17Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yep.

• 1:20:18Patrick Bet-David?

  It has to be very carefully unwound. Go to the next one, Rob.

• 1:20:22Speaker 04

  Those are the only two that I could find. And then this is a flight log, but it has Walter Cronkite on it.

• 1:20:26Patrick Bet-David?

  So what? What? Wait, what? Walter Cronkite flew there to Epstein Island.

• 1:20:31Speaker 04

  To the island in 2007.

• 1:20:33Patrick Bet-David?

  That just came out on Friday. Who else is on that list? Lance Galloway, Igor Zinoviu. Who's JP? John. Emmerling? Does anybody know who JP is, Rob, or no?

• 1:20:45Speaker 04

  Uh, no, I have not seen him.

• 1:20:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe JP Paul? I hope it's not.

• 1:20:47Speaker 04

  No, maybe it's somebody from JP Morgan.

• 1:20:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Walter Cronkite went to Epstein Island? Yep. What's the dates?

• 1:20:53Speaker 04

  January 12th, 2007. So this is the year after Epstein was prosecuted here in Florida for the sex trafficking of minors.

• 1:21:01Patrick Bet-David?

  When did he die? Walter Cronkite?

• 1:21:04Speaker 04

  He died a long time.

• 1:21:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Not, I mean, what, 15, 16, Rob? Walter Cronk-

• 1:21:09Speaker 04

  Uh, 2009.

• 1:21:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Nine? So he went when he was how old?

• 1:21:14Speaker 04

  90, 90 years old.

• 1:21:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So he went with, at 90 years old, he went to the Epstein Island?

• 1:21:19Speaker 04

  Yep. He turned 90 years old in November of 06. He would have been approaching his 91st birthday.

• 1:21:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Why would he at 90 years old go to the Epstein Island?

• 1:21:27Speaker 04

  One last-

• 1:21:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Roger, Roger, Roger, the journalist once called the most trusted man in America Walter Cronkite. Person in a newly released Epstein flight logs. Or something like that. They were dubbed, there was a period in the documents. Also in the logs were Prince Andrew, Bill Gates, Richard Branson. The documents did not suggest wrongdoing for Cronkite or any of the names listed, but it does reveal the scopes of Epstein's network go a little bit lower. The flight logs show the 91-year Cronkite brought aboard at a flight in depths of winter of generous took place from Newark, New Jersey to St. Thomas in US Virgin Islands. Cronkite was among eight passengers onboard, including Jeffrey Epstein, who was likely hosting the group at one of the two private islands, Little James and St. The logs were released as part of the broader package, which also included a transcript.

• 1:22:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Alex Acosta, the former, during this testimony, Acosta defended his actions citing it challenges. Many victims refused to testify. Many victims have changing stories. He told investigators, explaining that some of his decisions were... What? Ninety-one years old? Go a little bit lower. Ninety-one years old.

• 1:22:31Speaker 06

  I mean, Stephen Hawking would go too. And I mean, how many times is that guy there?

• 1:22:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Remember, part of the scam was the, uh, the, the foundation stuff, right? So was it possible that Cronkite was over there as this very old man who had had the stroke or whatever happened to him and, and passed away a year later, which is part of foundation?

• 1:22:52Speaker 06

  Who, but Tom, once you know somebody is a convicted pedophile, at that point, would he know? He would have to know.

• 1:22:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Wait, wait, wait. What was the, when was the sweetheart deal?

• 1:23:01Speaker 06

  The sweetheart deal was 2006, I believe. 2005 or 2006, Rob?

• 1:23:04Speaker 04

  Uh, two, he was arrested July 23rd, 2006.

• 1:23:08Speaker 06

  Yeah, everybody knew he was arrested.

• 1:23:09Speaker 04

  Five or six months later is when Walter Cronkite.

• 1:23:12Speaker 06

  And Tom, let's, let's just be honest, especially in this heat and everything.

• 1:23:15Tom Ellsworth?

  It doesn't look good.

• 1:23:16Speaker 06

  The island, this is, this is when the island was in full swing. Everybody, you know, even if you don't know, once you get there, you know exactly what's happening there. Even if you listen to Howard Lutnick and stuff, how disgusting he was in his apartment in New York. Think about what he was when he was here on an island in a different freaking country, do whatever the hell he wants, Tom. All, all these people, it's all a big web and they were all connected, Tom. Everybody knew what the hell was going on.

• 1:23:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So there's a story here that says, uh, uh, so based on that letter back and forth on other occasions, Epstein appears to have emphasized that he didn't feel the financial dealings with Black to be the sum of their relationship. Of course, re- any financial issues, I'm always there for you and will continue to be the best friend I can be, he reportedly put it. The Times report suggests that Epstein introduced Leon Black to a number of young women over the years, some of whom would later accuse Black of sexual abuse, citing court documents and notes taken by congressional investigators. The newspaper identifies one of those women as... Cherry Pearson, whom Epstein had at one time paid for massage services. Can you go to Cherry Pearson, C-H-E-R-I, Pearson is P-I-E-R, you got it right there, Epstein. Uh, uh, that's Cherry Pearson.

• 1:24:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Go, go back on where you were at, Rob, and go to the first story, New York Times, from two days ago. You've been blocked, Rob. New York Times doesn't like you. You're a robot. Epstein is understood to have advised Black on payments of $10 million to another woman. Wow, advise him to pay $10 million to another woman, Guzzi Ginevera. After she accused Black of sexual assault, Black had reportedly acknowledged having an extramarital affair with her, but denied assaulting her. Congressional investigators had apparently also raised concerns of millions of dollars paid by Black to at least eight women, who were later listed amongst Epstein's associate and victims. Okay, so then there's a connection here, because, because Black has apparently declined to comment on the reasons for those payments.

• 1:25:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Epstein case has returned to center stage. Justice Department, 2019, those findings flew in. Yeah, this is not good with Leon Black. Because if there's eight other girls that Leon Black had to pay off, and they're the same eight girls tied to Epstein, you already know where this 158 million dollars is. I mean, it's no longer a question. Yes. Of what happened there, Rob, what's, this the letter he wrote to him?

• 1:25:32Speaker 04

  Uh, yes, this was in Jeffrey Epstein's 50th birthday book. This is the letter that Leon Black allegedly wrote to him.

• 1:25:38Patrick Bet-David?

  A VFPC, do we know what that is? A very fine, very fine VFPC is something to be-

• 1:25:45Speaker 04

  Vanity Fair poster child.

• 1:25:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Is something to see, a liver, a lover, a Jeff, a Jeffrey, let's all give a cheer for today. He's 50. Five decades, or half a century, by birds and by bucks. Cs and Ms are his key. Blonde, red, brunette, spread out geographically. Wow. With his net of fish, Jeff's now the old man and the sea. Hemingway. Teaching math, trading options, or foreign currency. Green eye shades, schemes and plans, a unique tax strategy, wet dream, and- Caveat. No, chival- Tax strategy.

• 1:26:22Speaker 17

  Chival and architects.

• 1:26:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Sh- uh, I don't know what that word is. Chef, I didn't even, yeah. An art architect's wild spree, Moscow, Paris, Santa Fe. Santa Fe.

• 1:26:31Adam Sosnick?

  Their other ranch.

• 1:26:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Alambra East Jamboree. Go to the other side. Letter, Robert. Let's finish this. So this is Leon Black to him. Uh, Maxwellian delight, a mother's treasure, great joy, most surely Harvardian patron, brain researcher for extending wannabe outrageous iconoclastic, unconventional, spirit free, best of all, a dear friend. Happy birthday.

• 1:26:55Speaker 06

  How many codes and how much crap is in there where you got that's that's between them and it's like weird.

• 1:27:00Speaker 04

  And this word right here, uh, I, I believe it's colchmar. It's a another term for nightmare.

• 1:27:07Speaker 06

  Colchamal.

• 1:27:07Speaker 04

  So, uh, wet dreams and nightmares.

• 1:27:09Speaker 06

  You know, weird that they, yeah.

• 1:27:12Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. What a great love letter. I mean, look, there you have it.

• 1:27:15Speaker 06

  Love. He said love and kisses. Well.

• 1:27:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Vanity Fair poster child.

• 1:27:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Vanity Fair poster child.

• 1:27:22Adam Sosnick?

  Interesting. So this is Leon Black's letter to Jeffrey Epstein.

• 1:27:26Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:27:27Adam Sosnick?

  On his 50th birthday. Here's my question.

• 1:27:29Tom Ellsworth?

  They made a birthday book and everybody put creative letters.

• 1:27:31Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, that's very good. Here's my question. You know, Vinnie's done a lot more research on the Virginia goofery thing. Leon Black, for example. So it seems like a shakedown. And I'll tell you why. In this letter, he says, uh, we're gonna have a really dangerous mess. I find it very distasteful that you have not paid me the terms of my money. So to be clear, my terms are as follows. I will only work for the usual $40 million a year. Okay. Anyone who's ever invested money or has some AUM assets under management, does wealth planning, estate planning, legacy planning, philanthropic planning, tax advisory, whatever it is, it's usually a percentage of the money you're, you're managing.

• 1:28:15Adam Sosnick?

  In any capacity, has your Goldman Sachs person, I deal with fidelity or Vanguard, Tom, I'm sure you have money manager. Have they ever said, pay me my frickin' money or else? And it's $40 million or it's $4 million or we're gonna have a big, big problem. Had they ever said that? Cause if someone ever said that that was handling your money, you'd say, thank you. I'm gonna go look elsewhere. The fact that Leon Black just was like. Okay, my bad, my stupid retarded children, I'll deal with them and then allegedly ponied up the money. Shows me at the very least, there's something going on here below the surface.

• 1:28:51Speaker 06

  We know that Adam, JP Morgan settled, let's just, if we're going big in money, they settled the case for 75 million in 2023 and then another 290 million to settle with Epstein's victims.

• 1:29:02Adam Sosnick?

  But like.

• 1:29:03Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, the JP Morgan position was, we don't want to talk about it anymore. This guy's gone, he's no longer our client. Tell you what, we'll settle for this, everybody shut up.

• 1:29:13Adam Sosnick?

  Which goes to my point, essentially, everyone thinks that it's like big sex trafficking ring and this sort of prostitution ring and this underage thing. I think that's obviously a component, there's no doubt about that.

• 1:29:24Speaker 06

  A big component.

• 1:29:24Adam Sosnick?

  To me, the bigger component is the money. When you're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars and billions of dollars, follow the money. I get that everybody is obsessed with the kids and the sexual deviancy, I get it. But to me, this island was a, sort of like a hand washing, hand wringing, money movement thing. And then that was sort of like a feature at the island.

• 1:29:47Speaker 06

  But how do you make sure, Adam, with those hundreds of millions of dollars, that the person pays up? That to me, sounds like, hey, listen.

• 1:29:54Adam Sosnick?

  It was a component, no doubt.

• 1:29:55Speaker 06

  Yeah, don't F around.

• 1:29:56Adam Sosnick?

  But it's all about the money.

• 1:29:56Speaker 06

  Because guess what, I have a freaking hard drive that has all you people on it. Every, by the way, you think that, you know that room that you were in with the girl, that was a secret room that I told you go into? There was three cameras in there. By the way, open your email, I'm sending you footage in a cryptic account, no, bro. I'm telling you right now, to have that type of leverage and that type of power, Adam, those little kids, and I know, I'm not saying you're brushing it off, I know that you're saying it's a component, that's the main component, bro. Blackmail, that's how you make, that's how you talk, Adam, you know how you talk to a billionaire when you're not a billionaire? When you have leverage on him like that. Do this, 5 million every two months, here the, he even says, I E. March, May, June, pay up.

• 1:30:34Adam Sosnick?

  The Walter Cronkite thing is actually an example of what I'm talking about here. In my opinion, I could be wrong, I don't think 90-year-old Walter Cronkite is getting on a flight to be like, what, there's young chicks there, I'm on my way, bro. To me, it's the money. It's the philanthropy, it's whatever the big business is, and they're using these things as sort of like, or treats kids.

• 1:30:58Speaker 06

  Or you're ready for this, hey Walter, you're gonna die in six months? I got some young girl for you.

• 1:31:03Adam Sosnick?

  I don't think that's how a 90 year old guy thinks so, bro.

• 1:31:06Speaker 06

  This, Adam, demons like that, that's how they live.

• 1:31:08Adam Sosnick?

  Now Walter Cronkite is a demon now?

• 1:31:10Speaker 06

  No, I'm just saying, people that are disgusting and like sleeping with underage girls, like all this allegedly stuff that's coming up.

• 1:31:15Adam Sosnick?

  But there's no evidence of the great Walter Cronkite was ever involved in any of these.

• 1:31:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me, let me ask a simple question. By the way, can you ask, Rob, can you ask a question of this on the poll? And, and it's a very straight up question. Now, I don't want you to answer it.

• 1:31:27Speaker 06

  I'm not.

• 1:31:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's wait one minute to see how the poll answers, okay?

• 1:31:30Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:31:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Gang, what, Rob, the question is, what percentage of people that went to the Epstein Island, do you believe had sex with an underage girl?

• 1:31:43Speaker 06

  Great question.

• 1:31:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, what percentage? So, put it, Rob, if you could, what range should we make it? Let's make the range. Put one category, 50% plus. Put another category, 25 to 49%. Put another category, 10 to 24%. And then the other category, 0 to 9%. Put those four categories if you can, okay? I want you to think about the answer, Tom. Is it 50% plus, 25 to 49%, 10 to 24%, or less than 9%? That if you went there, you did this. Give a minute, Rob, if you posted the poll already, let's kind of see if people are already voting. I don't know if you already have it up or not.

• 1:32:25Speaker 06

  I do.

• 1:32:26Patrick Bet-David?

  If you already do, let's see how this vote is doing, okay? I'm actually curious. Oh, wow. Okay, don't look, don't look, don't look, don't look, Adam, don't look up, don't look up, don't look up. What's your number?

• 1:32:37Speaker 06

  For the 50, 50 plus?

• 1:32:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think, do you think, is, is it, you have four options to vote for?

• 1:32:43Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:32:44Patrick Bet-David?

  50% plus who went there?

• 1:32:45Speaker 06

  80%.

• 1:32:47Patrick Bet-David?

  You're at 80%?

• 1:32:47Speaker 06

  80% of that one. Like, meaning, I think.

• 1:32:50Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, but just think about it this way. Do you believe 50% plus?

• 1:32:54Speaker 06

  100, yes.

• 1:32:55Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's where you are.

• 1:32:56Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:32:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, where are you at?

• 1:32:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You put 9% so you put less so one out of 10 did so some of them just went by us. The heavy hitters that he needed to then lever the whole machine.

• 1:33:09Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I'm closer to Tom's number than Vinnie's number all day.

• 1:33:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Can we see what it shows Rob?

• 1:33:13Adam Sosnick?

  Less than 20%.

• 1:33:13Patrick Bet-David?

  What did people show 64% said 50 plus percent.

• 1:33:19Speaker 06

  You guys on the 4% that's not a problem.

• 1:33:21Patrick Bet-David?

  25 wow 3000 people voted I don't know Vinnie I don't know if because because to be 50%. That's crazy. Okay, so say you're doing the event, right? In sales, nobody has 100% closing ratio. Yeah. Do you know what I mean by that like there's nobody that close the best sales guys I know they're 50% and that's high. Yeah. Right? So which means is you even originally invite guys over, okay? They come in and then you convert them. So there's different categories of this guys who come in. Then you tell a girl to go flirt with that guy.

• 1:34:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Then they go to a room, the guy thinks she's 18, the guy has sex with her. Then he comes back and says, by the way, just had sex with a 16 year old, you need to give me 10 million bucks. That's option one. Yeah. Option two is guy comes in the first time, didn't know he knows you're successful. And he's coming in because he wants to network with people. Then it was offered, then he's like, I'll never come back again. I'm out, I made a mistake coming to the island, you're with me so far for the two options. Yep. Then number three is you went to the island, you know what happened? You told your friends, your friends went, your friends know what's going to be happening on that island. I don't know if that one makes sense or not. Of course. So what else would you add aside from those three Rob? Did you see what I just I just said three of them?

• 1:34:48Patrick Bet-David?

  The first one you're going, you didn't know was underage, you went in, he's like, hey, guess what? She's hot, she wants you. She's 16. Whoops. Now you owe me 50 million bucks. Yeah. Number two is. You went, you saw what was going on, you turned it down, you left, I'll never want to be back here again. And then number three is friends are bringing friends, they already know what's gonna be happening.

• 1:35:07Speaker 06

  And, and the number two option, you're already on the island, so that he's like, you're already kinda screwed, cuz you're here.

• 1:35:12Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but you could be, listen.

• 1:35:14Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:35:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Man, I was in a car with a lot of, you know, uh, uh, uh, drugs and stuff and the moment I found out, I'm like, dude, I'm getting the hell out of here. I was a young kid. Okay, I've been in places where I'm, I was a, fight breaks out, everybody had guns and stuff, and then I'm 14, 15 years old, I'm like, dude, I made a mistake being here, I'm not ever gonna be in this Cadillac again. You understand what I'm saying?

• 1:35:32Speaker 06

  A hundred percent.

• 1:35:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You've been in those situations, we've all been in those types of situations. All I'm saying is, I'd be curious to know what the percentage is of people that went in who were B-backs, who brought friends.

• 1:35:45Speaker 06

  Hmm. Did that, were they compromised? Were they compromised?

• 1:35:48Patrick Bet-David?

  If I was in charge of this investigation, if they put me on there, I, I would get the Excel spreadsheet and I would bring a couple of business analysts with me and I would say, here's what I want you to do. Make a list of all the B-backs. Here's the B-backs. If you came back the second time around, uh, you're in a hundred percent cat, 99% category for me. Cuz you're a B-back.

• 1:36:07Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:36:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what a B-back is?

• 1:36:08Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:36:08Patrick Bet-David?

  You went, you know what's going on, you came back again. So to me, I wanna first look at all the people that only went once, because I can filter those guys out. The one-timers are like, alright, 80% chance, they didn't do anything, they went back, 20% may have done it, like, I never wanna go back again. So let's go talk to the 80%ers that are still alive. But you can do basic data analytics with this to see patterns. It's not hard to see patterns with this kinda stuff. My opinion, I see a pattern here.

• 1:36:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Man, I'd, I'd love to have access, I'd love to be on the inside right now.

• 1:36:41Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 1:36:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Just give me a couple, couple.

• 1:36:44Speaker 06

  It's very interesting to me, and this is actually telling of what's actually going on. Vinny said that there's an 80% chance.

• 1:36:51Adam Sosnick?

  That

• 1:36:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Anybody that went

• 1:36:52Adam Sosnick?

  Eighty percent where Tom said nine percent.

• 1:36:56Speaker 06

  Yeah, Tom's in the four percent.

• 1:36:57Adam Sosnick?

  Tom's the, the, the words talk, numbers scream, Vinny's the scream guy. I would love you guys to come to an agreement of why Tom is so low and you are so high. Cause that, that to me is the crux of the conversation of Vinny is very like, believe me, it's a percentage. I don't know if it's one percent or 99 percent. I'm closer to Tom, but explain, I would love for you guys to take 30 seconds, explain why you think.

• 1:37:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll give you my 30 seconds.

• 1:37:21Adam Sosnick?

  Go ahead.

• 1:37:22Tom Ellsworth?

  You only need, look at the chessboard. You don't need the pawns. You get two knights, two bishops and a rook and, and you don't even need the queen. You have several of the key pieces to continue what he was doing, raising all the money, spending all the money, doing all that. There is a reason he was doing all this. Was he a Mossad? Was he a CIA asset? A lot of people are pointing to that. And if that's what he was doing, all you need is the big chess pieces. That's why I think it's like nine percent.

• 1:37:50Speaker 06

  I think it's, I think it's 50% or plus because I think everybody knew exactly who he was. Everybody knew that you could come to this island and do whatever you want and nobody, did you, did you think any of them thought number one, they were being recorded? Or number two, they're on an island in the Virgin Islands that they were ever going to get caught.

• 1:38:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you what.

• 1:38:06Speaker 06

  And I believe in evil and you're the one that got me, Tom, you talked to me about, and I know I've said this before on the podcast, Ephesians, chapter six, verse 12. I, in my heart of hearts as a Christian believe it's beyond that. It's, when I say demons, Adam, and I, I mean that sincerely, either they're working for the devil, they don't, or they don't even know that they are. They're sleeping with underage girls.

• 1:38:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Question, check this out, Tom, I just thought about something.

• 1:38:27Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:38:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So if you've seen the Epstein documentary and the Jelaine documentary.

• 1:38:32Speaker 06

  I watched them both because of you.

• 1:38:33Patrick Bet-David?

  So that when, when they would keep coming back to grow and then the one girl's like, what did I do wrong? I didn't do anything. Well, you brought 25 girls here, but I didn't do anything. He was paying me $200 per girl. You brought underage girls here. The girl got in trouble, went to jail. I don't know what happened for, for trafficking, right? Okay. Crazy question for you. Crazy question for you.

• 1:38:52Patrick Bet-David?

  How many, say a very powerful player showed up?

• 1:38:54Speaker 06

  Okay, how, I mean.

• 1:38:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Very powerful, like Leon Black, like guys like this, like Andrew, any of these guys. How many of them went in?

• 1:39:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And they're like, Jeff said, hey, I will forgive you of the 10 million dollar fee you pay me this year.

• 1:39:12Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're able to get X, Y, Z here on the island and we get them locked in.

• 1:39:15Speaker 06

  Oh, that's a.

• 1:39:15Patrick Bet-David?

  And then we'll split the commission together.

• 1:39:17Speaker 06

  I think that happened a lot, Pat.

• 1:39:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you understand what I just said?

• 1:39:19Speaker 06

  Yup.

• 1:39:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you understand what I'm asking? So for example, hey.

• 1:39:23Speaker 06

  Great question.

• 1:39:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Jeff, I can't pay anything, man. This is ridiculous. I'm running a business. I'm paper rich. I'm not cash rich. No problem. You bring three girls, three guys here. We get them on camera. I will waive your fee.

• 1:39:34Speaker 06

  Wow, oh.

• 1:39:35Patrick Bet-David?

  And here's a list of names. I know you're friends with them. And then the guy is like, hey, man, Bill, what are you doing? Skolman, I was there. It's nothing. It's great. Don't believe any of this. It's just, it's a great time. Then you go in, then you get them, then there's a meeting. You've been waived. Guess what? 200 million dollars, 100 million dollars, 20 million dollars, and I'll give you 5 million bucks for.

• 1:39:55Speaker 06

  Wow, I, how much of that do I believe?

• 1:39:58Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if it happened, but the more I'm thinking about the business model.

• 1:40:02Speaker 06

  That's him. That's, he would think like that. That's who he is. You see those texts, Pat? That's a great question. I believe, of course, like even on paper, like, hey, listen, I've given you enough. Like, I can't, like Leon Black, like, look how obvious that is. Bring me at least one other big ass name and you're good. I'm done with you. Next.

• 1:40:19Adam Sosnick?

  Which is basically the whole premise that it's a blackmailing.

• 1:40:22Speaker 06

  Ring.

• 1:40:23Adam Sosnick?

  Business operation and the women are just sort of ancillary to help the cause. To me, it's a little farfetched. You think everybody ever that goes there is a pedophile.

• 1:40:34Speaker 06

  But, but again.

• 1:40:35Adam Sosnick?

  So extreme.

• 1:40:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I would, I would love, I would volunteer pro bono.

• 1:40:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I would sign any of this stuff that I need to sign, but allow me to do my job. It's the only thing I ask. I will sign a clearance, but allow me to do my job. And I want to bring a couple analysts that they will also sign things off. I just want to look through the data to see the B backs, the one timers. They have all that data to look at patterns. Because we, we would be able to find out the best customers and we'd be able to find out the, and maybe some of this stuff is already public that people can, somebody independently can do this as well. Who knows? Anyways. All right, let's go to the next story here, the next story here, the next story here. So while this is taking place, while this is taking place.

• 1:41:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Elon Musk has turned his eye to the UK. Okay, Elon Musk has turned his eye to the UK. I'm going to go to the story, Adam, I'm coming to you first. Yes, sir. So Elon Musk, Tommy Robinson. There's something going on there. Elon Musk loves responding to posts on X with heart emojis. He sent dozens this year alone, often in response to people praising his cars or directly to his mother's posts. But this week Musk sent a heart emoji to Tommy Robinson, the far-right Islamophobic activist. But this is a wired article from the UK. Though Musk largely ignored UK politics this year while working in the US government at his so-called Doge. He appears to be back across the pond, spending his money and using his platform to elevate far-right extremists.

• 1:42:14Patrick Bet-David?

  A huge thank you to Elon Musk today, legend. Robinson wrote on Monday, following the first day of his two-day trial for a charge-related counterterrorism law at Westminster Court in London. Robinson claimed that this week that Musk had funded his defense. Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley Lennon, was charged under the Terrorism Act after he refused to give police access to his cellphone in July 2024 while trying to leave the UK. Prosecutor Joe Morris told the judge this week that police believe there may be information relevant to acts of terrorism on the phone at the time. Robinson has pleaded not guilty and claimed the stop was unlawful. A decision in the case is due next month and a video posted on X after his trial this week.

• 1:42:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Robinson said Musk has agreed to fund his defense. Adam?

• 1:43:01Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I believe that Elon Musk is doing a great service to help Tommy Robinson. Tommy Robinson is a guy who I think is so necessary, so necessary because he's calling out the truth of what's going on in the UK and it is worse than we actually possibly think. He, I'm actually at a dinner two weeks ago and I'm sitting next to a very famous guy, former NBA player, very famous, you would know the name, and his wife soon to be soon to be newly mother and she's British and he's American and we're having a conversation. And I'm saying, what's so what's going on in the UK? She's like, what do you mean? Everything's going great.

• 1:43:42Adam Sosnick?

  I'm like, you don't, this was like right after the big million man protest that Tommy Robinson put out there. She's like, everything's going great, no, no big deal. I said, everything's going great, what are you talking about? And it was a classic case where the husband did not want to upset his wife, she's pregnant, God bless, but here I am being like, yeah, I don't know. And my friend sitting next to me is like, dude, she's pregnant. This guy? No, no, no, no. I'll tell you after. But you, it's so funny because he's agreeing with me, but he's whispering, he's like, no, bro, just tell her what's going on, I don't want to tell her like, you know, just, she's like, no, in the UK, Tommy Robinson is racist and he's an Islamic phobic. And I'm like, but, but is he wrong?

• 1:44:25Adam Sosnick?

  Because I see what's going on there, you know, the most common baby name is Mohammed, they're talking, they're calling for jihad on the streets, you know, every single part of Birmingham and all these cities in, in the UK, they're all going Muslim like, and to me, the biggest problem is the hypocrisy because they can't do that in the Middle East, the Christians can't come in and start converting people, like the hypocrisy, the double standard, I have no problem with it, but you know, it's a two-way street. She's like, no, I don't care what you say. And he comes up to me after dinner, he's like, thank you for saying what I've been thinking, but I don't want to upset my wife. And it just goes to show, she's full emotion, no logic, and he's completely illogical and he doesn't want to speak up. Tommy Robinson is speaking up on behalf of all Brits and thank God he has someone like Elon Musk with deep, deep, deep pockets to fund his case, or this guy would probably be in jail.

• 1:45:10Adam Sosnick?

  No, um, to me, Tommy Robinson, please stay safe. Please get security. Please get people all around you.

• 1:45:16Patrick Bet-David?

  He doesn't have the money to get security.

• 1:45:17Adam Sosnick?

  Because you are very necessary, sir.

• 1:45:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, good for you for doing what you're doing. So keep at it, Tommy. And by the way, if some of you guys want to manect Tommy while you can to support him, he's actually on manect, Rob. If you want to kind of show, uh, I don't know if we have Tommy Robinson's manect or not, a QR code. If not, put the link below. Go manect him. He actually responds back.

• 1:45:37Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, uh, and you can ask him any questions or support him. He's on manect. Maybe leave us a handle in the comments section, Rob, so people can go respond to him.

• 1:45:44Adam Sosnick?

  And there's one more element here. And I don't know if you guys want to use the whole free speech component. The, the, these guys, uh, respect to you. I don't know if I can find this breakdown. He goes, do you, what, what, what country do you think has arrested the most people in the last five years for, uh, free speech? And they start going like, well, you know, like Belarus is probably bad and Russia is even worse. And obviously we know about North Korea and Iran. He goes, top of the list, United Kingdom. It's like 4,000 something, some ridiculous number compared to every other country, which just goes to show that UK is going down the path of woke, woke, progressive ideology, liberalism, mixed with jihadism, where anything critical will land you in jail. We've seen these calls. We've seen these situations. And, you know, say what you want about Elon Musk, great protector of freedom of speech because of X.

• 1:46:29Patrick Bet-David?

  That's great. Yeah. Uh, let's go to the next story. The next story is Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner sit down with Leslie Stahl 60 minutes. Phenomenal interview, must watch. I watched the first 15 minutes and 39 seconds. Couple of clips that are very revealing. Leslie starts off right off the bat. You can tell it's intense. And, but Kushner and, uh, Witkoff, very, very stable. One, the two stories that was told, which was very interesting. One of them was when she asked about what happened with the president and Netanyahu, when Israel attacked Qatar, and it was problematic. And in that response, Rob, I don't know if you have that clip, is this the clip specific to Netanyahu? Is this the one?

• 1:47:12Speaker 04

  Uh, this is where they talk about the Israeli strike during the peace.

• 1:47:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, this is the one. This is the one. Go for it. Can he, Rob?

• 1:47:21Patrick Bet-David?

  We cannot hear, guys.

• 1:47:24Speaker 06

  Still can't hear it.

• 1:47:27Speaker 06

  I hear like a feedback.

• 1:47:29Speaker 04

  Like a buzzing. Nope, it's a clip. Here, I also have this. This is where they talk about the death that Vinnie had mentioned.

• 1:47:36Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, go to the other one. I want to go to the other one. Rob, the other one is on 12:30. Just go to 12:30. Yeah, I have it at 12:30. There you go. Go for it.

• 1:47:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you raise the volume?

• 1:47:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, can we raise the volume?

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• 1:48:55Speaker 06

  Oh, no, we're getting a lot of feedback, Rob.

• 1:49:03Speaker 06

  Yeah, something's making noise.

• 1:49:09Speaker 04

  I have full volume here. I don't know why it's not coming all the way through.

• 1:49:15Speaker 04

  But that's on YouTube, too.

• 1:49:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, so do me a favor. Is this when we show CBS clips where they do things? Is CBS the one that typically is not happy about things that you show?

• 1:49:28Speaker 06

  Yeah, 60 Minutes is kind of an issue for us.

• 1:49:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so then that's what we'll do. So let me tell you what happened. So part of it was that they used the word, they said, "Did the president force him to apologize?" They said, "No, he didn't force him." "You sure it wasn't forced?" "No," he says, "that's what you call diplomacy." And Jared says that with a smile on his face, right? There's a smile on his face when he's saying that. And then, the other part is, when there's an exchange, and they're talking about... Vinny, maybe you tell this part of the story, where Whitkoff is sitting there talking to one of the Hamas leaders.

• 1:49:57Speaker 06

  Yeah, so, and by the way, it was a fantastic, fantastic interview by both of them. He's sitting there, and Whitkoff says they walk into the room, and the Qatar... So it's the Hamas negotiator, I guess? I mean, if they trust him enough, I don't know what his involvement is, Pat, like what his, like, level of Hamas if he's in Hamas. But there was a moment where he reveals that during Israel's attack in Qatar, that this negotiator's son was killed in the attack. And then, he had a moment with him... Yeah, that's the guy's name right there, Rob. What's his name? It doesn't say his name, that's just the photo of him. But that's who he is, that's who he is.

• 1:50:37Speaker 06

  So then they had a moment, because Whitkoff, Steve Whitkoff, had a moment, because he goes, "We share something in common. My son, at 22 years old, died of an opioid overdose." And even Jared Kushner says, "There was a moment," he goes, "I wish that there was a camera in the room to capture such a human moment, which actually made them connect." And then he's saying, "At the end, at the end of this negotiation, people in the room were hugging each other." Like, it was a moment of like, "Finally, we did it, and it's over, we're gonna get the hostages back, and there's a peace." So there was a great, great moment. But then, Pat, going back to what he said, he said, "Trump felt that the Israelis were getting a little bit out of control," said Kushner. "It was time to be very strong and stop them from doing things that he felt were not in their long-term interest."

• 1:51:22Speaker 06

  And that's what he was saying.

• 1:51:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Gotta love it. By the way, and how do you feel now, Vinny, about where Kushner and... Whitkoff or at what is your feeling about Kushner and Whitkoff?

• 1:51:30Speaker 06

  And again, Pat, all we do, because I didn't really do the research of who Whitkoff was. I know Kushner, especially with Ivanka, they weren't going to be involved with the thing with the whole administration. But now that it's coming back, now that I'm seeing at least the diplomacy, I look like, bro, they're going to talk to these guys to try to make peace and then still having, still having the decency to call out Israel, still calling out Bibi Netanyahu when it's wrong. Like he's, for him to say, it felt, because when he's saying Israelis, he's basically saying Bibi was getting a little out of control. He goes, it's time to be very strong and like, bro, you gotta stop. Like, Trump is over here busting his ass, trying to get a peace deal, and you're doing this. For them to say that, big, big props.

• 1:52:11Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, on the podcast, we talked about it, if you remember, when I said, what is the likelihood that Trump forced him to apologize? I think everybody here said 100%.

• 1:52:20Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:52:21Patrick Bet-David?

  If you remember that, right? Well, of course, he's gonna say, what are you doing? You're gonna negotiate a peace deal for you, but you're doing something like this and getting in the way? Rob, what is this here? Is this, they're giving the update on a phase two?

• 1:52:30Speaker 04

  This is Fox News yesterday, reporting that Whitkoff and Vance are heading to Israel for phase two of the summit.

• 1:52:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:52:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Something with audio, Rob.

• 1:52:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it, you can pause it right there. Okay, so what are your thoughts, Tom, when you're hearing this? What are you thinking?

• 1:52:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, it feels like Jared Kushner is four years wiser. It feels like the administration is four years wiser. And Whitkoff feels like a very steady hand in these things. And it feels like this was the, this was a, see, there's two types of deal teams. One type of deal team is, they know that they sell the heroin and you need heroin because you're an addict. And there's nothing to it. The other type of deal, by the way, it happens in business too. You know, you get held up by key suppliers and things like this. The other type in the deal team is you really are trying to, as a very famous book says,

• 1:53:38Tom Ellsworth?

  getting to yes, and working through concessions that are necessary and things that make sense. Not getting to yes at any cost, but getting to yes at the costs that are acceptable for the betterment of all people. And Jared Kushner said something that I thought was very, very strong. Where he said, "We thought the Israelis were doing things that were not in their own best interests long term." And part about being an intermediary here is like, look, I know you're going to say to the end of time, you were attacked on October 7th, you know Hamas bad, you're bombing him back to the Stone Age.

• 1:54:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I get it, but you're doing some of these other things that aren't going to help you what you want, which is to get peace here and to figure this out. And so I was impressed by what appears to be a very steady hand in Whitkoff. And what a constant reminder of what we had with Anthony Blinken. And how different this is now.

• 1:54:46Speaker 06

  Day and night.

• 1:54:47Tom Ellsworth?

  That when you have the right guy on your team, and so I think that Trump's got the right team together. And I think it really feels like Jared Kushner is four years wiser. I don't mean that he was, you know, uninformed or, you know, incapable four years ago. I mean, he's got four more years of experience in the machine and out there with these deals. Adam, where are you at with this? That's where I'm at.

• 1:55:14Adam Sosnick?

  So, everything comes down to let's make a deal. And this is why Trump is so important, because as much as we always heard that like, "We want a businessman in the office, we want a businessman in the office. We can't have just a normal politician." There's some credibility to that, because if we haven't learned anything, everything is about let's make a deal. Whether it's a peace deal, whether it's a trade deal, whether it's a tariff deal, whether it's a hostage deal. The whole reason that Trump was able to manufacture this deal because he's he used leverage on each one of these countries to say Turkey, you want this Qatar, you want this Egypt wants this Jordan wants this. Let's forget the fact that you know Egypt, you have a huge massive wall keeping out the the Gazans, but let's not let's not focus on that. Jordanians, you want nothing to do with the Gazans. All right, cool, cool,

• 1:55:58Adam Sosnick?

  cool, cool. Qatar, what do you want? So he uses this envoy of Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner incredibly capable guys. Are you freaking kidding me what these guys were able to do? And they didn't stop until they made a deal. Now, to me Qatar is the linchpin here because Qatar basically marries oil and wealth and just richness with Jihad sympathizing and a home base for Hamas. So to me, is Qatar guilty of doing sending money elsewhere, sewing discord, doing all these horrible things at the same time, I can also recognize that they're going to need Qatar to actually talk with the terrorists to bring back the

• 1:56:41Adam Sosnick?

  hostages, which they were able to do. So in this instance, what they were upset was they said, dude, you just blew up whatever you did in Qatar. We need them to come to the table. Yeah. Whereas Bibi Netanyahu is basically saying, we're getting attacked from Hamas, the Houthis, Hezbollah, Syria, left, right, send and center. These guys are harboring terrorists. We're going to take them out. And sometimes you need someone like a Kushner or a Witkoff who's on sort of team Israel side saying, guys, that is sort of cutting off your nose despite your face because we need their help. Now, it's sort of like a frenemy is how I would label Qatar. They're not a full ally, but they're definitely not an enemy. And we need them to bring brought to the fold to help bring GDP, not GDT, gross domestic terrorism to Middle East.

• 1:57:24Speaker 06

  But did you guys, but I was, I called that I don't think the peace deal was going to last that long because Israel struck yesterday. Did you guys know that yesterday and the day before Tom and Rafa, they was they struck Gaza and temporarily halted aid, saying Hamas broke the truce. So both sides were pointing fingers.

• 1:57:40Adam Sosnick?

  You're leaving out the initial part of the story though.

• 1:57:42Speaker 06

  No, no, I'm not leaving out. You didn't, Adam.

• 1:57:44Adam Sosnick?

  The whole point is two Israeli soldiers.

• 1:57:45Speaker 06

  And they retaliated. So are you ready for this? I'm happy that you said that. If you let me say my whole point. Israel, both sides are pointing fingers. Israel's saying Hamas killed two of its soldiers. They came out of the tunnel or something. Hamas is saying that a bulldozer was driving and drove over ordinance and it blew up. Okay. So Adam, which gets to my point. Whatever version is whoever's telling the truth, whatever it is, it proves one thing. There's never going to be peace there as long as Hamas is still around. Okay. They allowed them to stay. I get the peace deal and you got your, we got the hostages back, right? Why, why would you ever negotiate with terrorists at this point? Once they got the terrorist pack, this is my opinion.

• 1:58:24Speaker 06

  They should have gone full offensive, flood the tunnels, bunker buster, kill all of Hamas root and stem. But they didn't and they let them, but they didn't they release like 1,200 people or 600 of them might have been prisoners. Terrorists. It's like, why, why would you do that? It doesn't make sense, Adam. Releasing terrorists and then acting surprised when they do terrorist things again is like tossing a shark in a swimming pool and then expecting him, hoping that he turns into a vegetarian. It's not gonna happen.

• 1:58:50Tom Ellsworth?

  To Adam and Vinnie. Do we know which is which? I saw stories that went both ways. That say that a small squad came out from underground.

• 1:58:58Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:58:59Tom Ellsworth?

  And then Israeli soldiers were killed. And then I saw stories that said it was a bulldozer and even the US knew it was a bulldozer. But I haven't seen any definitive write up by a reliable news source.

• 1:59:10Speaker 06

  Nope.

• 1:59:11Tom Ellsworth?

  That has said exactly what was what. Do either one of you seen that?

• 1:59:15Speaker 06

  Not definitive, Tom. I saw something, something that was reporting, I'll, I'll send it to Rob, the guy's name, that something had to do with the Pentagon, saying that it might've been an unexploded ordinance from Israel that they, that they drove over. But my point is going back to this, Adam, and I want to know your opinion, really facts. I know one, Pat wants to go another story. You're leaving terrorists there. You negotiated, you got what you wanted. We got all the hostages back. Why not kill every single Hamas? Go on full offensive. I know that Lebanon, they're doing stuff everywhere else and I get that. Right now you have the opportunity to wipe them the hell out. You got exactly what you wanted back. Flood the tunnels, bunker buster, kill the terrorists, just like Trump killed ISIS. You never hear ISIS. Done. Wipe them out.

• 2:00:00Speaker 06

  Because now it's almost, you're just leaving an enemy hanging around there. Like, I don't understand.

• 2:00:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Can I give you my quick answer? I'll do it in 30 seconds or less because Israel actually doesn't want to do a genocide.

• 2:00:09Adam Sosnick?

  And that's the whole conversation. Why aren't they going after terrorists? Because the terrorists are embedded within the civilians. So the whole notion that they want to commit genocide, if they wanted to do that, they would just wipe out the whole country.

• 2:00:20Speaker 06

  Adam, but it's flat.

• 2:00:22Adam Sosnick?

  That's the whole thing.

• 2:00:22Speaker 06

  It's gone. Go in the tunnels.

• 2:00:24Adam Sosnick?

  They're in the tunnels. The people are living in this squalor. Listen, Israel has gone out of their way to go door to door to door to door to find the hostages. Now that they have the hostages back, yeah, they maybe need to take a little bit more of a presumptuous aggressive stance. But to me, the moral equivalency is so ridiculous. The fact that whose side did it, whose side did it? Only one side is lining up their own people in a firing squad and murdering them.

• 2:00:52Speaker 06

  And why is that?

• 2:00:53Adam Sosnick?

  Whereas the other side is doing anything in their possibility to go get their hostages back.

• 2:00:58Speaker 06

  Adam, because they let terrorists alive.

• 2:01:00Adam Sosnick?

  So stupid and unfounded that only morons can't see the difference between Hamas and the idea. And a problemly, unfortunately, we have so many morons who don't understand that equivalency. They're the ones calling Bibi Netanyahu Hitler. They're the same ones calling Trump effacist and Hitler. To me, it's so stupid.

• 2:01:17Speaker 06

  But you understand what I'm coming from?

• 2:01:19Adam Sosnick?

  That the people who are doing the Hamas defending and the people who are actually Hamas are the one in the wrong here.

• 2:01:24Speaker 06

  But you understand what I'm saying, Adam? Kill the... Like, you know why Hamas is shooting Palestinians in the street right now? Because Israel let Hamas thrive. They said, "Go ahead. We're gonna let..." All the people that were holding hostages.

• 2:01:35Adam Sosnick?

  So your solution is what? More murdering?

• 2:01:37Speaker 06

  No, more murdering of what? Killing Hamas? Yes, Adam. Because as long as Hamas is there, terrorism is going to happen.

• 2:01:44Adam Sosnick?

  You sound like a pro-Israel guy, Vinny.

• 2:01:45Speaker 06

  Kill Hamas.

• 2:01:46Adam Sosnick?

  You sound like the most right-wing, pro-Israel guy at this point.

• 2:01:50Speaker 06

  I'm saying, kill the terrorists. Kill terrorists. Bingo.

• 2:01:53Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, kill terrorists?

• 2:01:53Speaker 06

  Not release them back and say, "Oh, my God, terrorists are doing terrorist things."

• 2:01:57Adam Sosnick?

  We should definitely eliminate terrorists.

• 2:01:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let's go to next story here. Next story, I want to go, I'd like to do two more before we wrap up. One is, I don't want to spend more than four minutes on this one, but I do want to give the update. Spotify can't snicker for instance. America First Podcast for breaking hate speech rules, but has not banned him yet. Page 21. Rob, I'll read this. Is this Nick himself giving an update?

• 2:02:16Speaker 04

  Yep, that's him yesterday or the day before talking about...

• 2:02:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me just read this and then we'll go to him. So Spotify said it has permanently removed white nationalists Nick Fuentes America First podcast for violating its free hate speech rules but the controversial figure is not banned from appearing on the platform altogether. The company responded to a post inquired this week after several social media accounts circulated incorrect claims that Fuentes was completely banned from Spotify despite his show being among the highest trending podcasts in 2020. Removed this show for repeated violations of our platform rules. Spotify spokesperson told the post on Wednesday, "Our policies are focused on content that violates our policies are focused on content that violates our guidelines, not on creators themselves." Consequently, while the specific show and

• 2:03:00Patrick Bet-David?

  the attempts to re-upload it by multiple users are not permitted, the podcaster in question is not banned and still appears as a guest on other shows. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:03:10Speaker 26

  Hooray for problems says fuck Spotify, am I right? Yeah, what's going on, man? I guess I was number one for like a day, but they, I didn't even start that channel. That's not even my channel. Someone else just started uploading my show.

• 2:03:25Speaker 06

  Is that crazy?

• 2:03:26Speaker 26

  I didn't even do it. Honest to God, it wasn't me. It wasn't even an intern. Some random guy just started uploading my show. It went number one immediately and then they banned it. So.

• 2:03:35Speaker 06

  That's pretty impressive. That's pretty impressive that you're like, wait, I'm number one? I didn't even know it. It's just, could you imagine that? You accidentally got number one because somebody's uploading your stuff. That is wild.

• 2:03:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:47Adam Sosnick?

  So what platforms is Nick even allowed on at this point? Is it X?

• 2:03:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Rumble. Rumble and X.

• 2:03:52Adam Sosnick?

  That's it?

• 2:03:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I believe so.

• 2:03:54Adam Sosnick?

  Because my TikTok got taken down simply because I posted a video having a conversation with Nick. So I know he's not even allowed anywhere near TikTok. I'm sure Tate is also in that category.

• 2:04:04Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Tate just got back his YouTube channel.

• 2:04:06Adam Sosnick?

  He did?

• 2:04:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Tate just got back his YouTube channel.

• 2:04:08Adam Sosnick?

  Four years later.

• 2:04:09Patrick Bet-David?

  And I think a couple other guys, Brian Rose also just got back his YouTube channel from London Real.

• 2:04:15Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 2:04:15Patrick Bet-David?

  And a few other guys got it. Yeah. But.

• 2:04:18Adam Sosnick?

  Nick is allowed on what platform?

• 2:04:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Nick is allowed on, let me see here, Spotify, Swedish. I guess I'm former Trump. Steve Bannon was apparently kicked out based on what Humberto saying. Spotify removed conservative, a few other people. Yeah, so I don't know, but I think, I think a couple podcasts, a couple places Nick is still on. He's on X, he's on Truth Social, he's on Rumble. Those are the places he's on. He's not on YouTube, not on Twitch, his channel was terminated, not on a couple of these other guys. But we'll see. Listen, there's a young market of people that want to hear what he has to say. We'll see if he'll come back on Spotify and if they'll let him on or not.

• 2:05:01Adam Sosnick?

  He's not gonna go away, guys. I mean, you could try to cancel people all you want. Sometimes when you try to cancel somebody, they only get bigger.

• 2:05:07Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, let's be, let's be very clear about Spotify on this, right? It said, "The podcaster Nick in question is not banned and appears to guest on other shows. They were concerned about a particular episode, something on it, but they went out of their way." Spotify said, "Hey, we've not banned Nick."

• 2:05:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Spotify is fair. I'm not gonna sit here and say anything about Spotify. I think they've been very fair.

• 2:05:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 2:05:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, they've been very fair. Okay, what's the last story I haven't done that I wanted to do? Boom, boom, boom, boom. We hit that one. We hit this one. This is the last one I want to do and we'll wrap up. Besen, Chinese Vice Premier to meet with China to defuse escalation of US tariffs. Okay, so this is,

• 2:05:53Patrick Bet-David?

  this is the meeting that they're talking about with Besen. Trump calls 157% China tariffs "not sustainable" ahead of Plan G meeting in South Korea. But, yeah, so here's Trump first, and then we'll go to Besen, Rob, if you want to do that. Do you have it?

• 2:06:07Speaker 04

  I do. Here is, 157% tariffs unsustainable.

• 2:06:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go for it.

• 2:06:13Speaker 12

  If you put that 100% tariff on top of what's in place already, but 157% tariff on China, can that stand? What is that gonna do to the economy?

• 2:06:22Speaker 27

  It's not sustainable, but that's what the number is. It's probably not, you know, it could stand. But they forced me to do that.

• 2:06:34Speaker 27

  I think we're going to do fine with China. I get along great with him. He's a very strong leader, a very, you know, amazing man. You look at what he's done and what he's, you know, where he's. His life is an amazing story. It's a story for a great movie. I think we're going to be fine with China, but we have to have a fair deal. It's got to be fair.

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• 2:07:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back to Besson, Rob. Go back to Besson.

• 2:08:00Speaker 28

  China did a substantial unprovoked escalation last week. We were unable to get in touch with them since then. It's been IMF World Bank week. They have had working level people here. There have been meetings. The vice premier, who is my counterpart, and I will be speaking this evening at around 8:30, 9 o'clock. And then he and I in a delegation will meet in Malaysia probably a week from tomorrow to prepare for the two presidents to meet. So I, again, I think that things have de-escalated. We hope that China will show the respect that we have shown them. And I am confident that President Trump,

• 2:08:44Speaker 28

  because of his relationship with President Xi, will be able to get things back on a good course.

• 2:08:49Speaker 15

  Is the hope for that meeting with you and President Xi, some kind of trade deal then?

• 2:08:53Speaker 27

  Could be. Look, I think we're in a very strong position.

• 2:08:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom, thoughts? Well, I, I, I love this because once again, we have Whitkoff in the Middle East and now we have Besen, is, which is very reliable team and maneuvering into a good position. And all the stuff that, that Trump said last week about what China was doing with rare earth minerals, by the way, that's what we're gonna hear. Taiwan, chips, rare earth minerals, those are the top of the list for the deal because that's gonna help EVs around the world, that's gonna help the US and where we're at, and it's also gonna turn down the heat. And so, Trump has turned up the heat and it isn't interesting.

• 2:09:40Tom Ellsworth?

  He doesn't mention anything about China's position. What does he say? I think Xi's had the amazing guys and had an amazing life. They can make a movie about it. Look at what he's accomplished. He didn't lose any negotiating points there. He is very skillfully preparing for his conversation while he's letting Besen get ready to go to Malaysia to meet the counterparts. And there's one thing you know about China, they are very procedural and intentional. So, okay, you be procedural and intentional, let's get together, let's talk about these points, I'll see you in Malaysia and we'll see where he can make it go. But, what we saw from the reduced numbers in India, it's also happening in China and

• 2:10:23Tom Ellsworth?

  they wanna, they're, even as they play the long game, they want some restoration here and I think we're gonna see some of it. Is it gonna be a perfect deal in 10 minutes? No. But is it going to be, uh, progress? Yeah, I think so. And I think that the, the president and his lieutenants and the people in his cabinet are out there getting W's for the president and the president, uh, deserves credit for those, for the team he's put in place and then how he's gonna finish these deals.

• 2:10:51Speaker 06

  I think it's awesome, Ben, to like, I know we laughed a little bit, like, you noticed that's so freaking Trump and you nailed the, uh, make like, the art of the deal. He's like, yeah, he's great, he's a good guy, even though he's freaking obviously a dictator and all that stuff and he's like, you know, could be in a movie, cuz you know, Tom, they're gonna go to Xi and be like, hey, President Trump said that you could be. You could be a movie star, but you could be in a movie and he's like, you mean like, like Jackie Chan, like movies? Like, think about it, those are little points that you're talking about, Tom, that helps that negotiating, like, that's his style, right?

• 2:11:21Tom Ellsworth?

  It's, it's skillful. I think we're seeing the art of the deal and China's gonna be watching that and hearing that. And they'll have their own interpretation of it, but we're seeing a president with a capable cabinet out there getting W's and getting stuff done.

• 2:11:35Adam Sosnick?

  Well, uh, I'm not on the same page with what, uh, what you guys mentioned regarding, uh, Trump's, uh, strategy here. Because I believe that China's a completely different strategy than what you would have to, uh, bust out, uh, in, uh, the Middle East or in Russia, Ukraine. I mean, the Middle East, if you use that as an example, it's sort of like the, the, the machismo, the bravado actually works. Where you can kind of play on people's emotions and sense of ego. You can use the tough guy thing with, with Putin because he responds to aggression and power. China's a completely different beast. There's long terms, they're strategic, they're pragmatic. I don't think that they're running on emotion. I think China is very logical and they're willing to actually put their people with a completely control in a world of pain.

• 2:12:19Adam Sosnick?

  Because I think she's chairman for life. I don't think that they have a, uh, uh, as much of a incentive to move as Middle East or even, uh, as Putin. Regarding the minerals, I hear about the minerals, I hear about the minerals. By the way, we all, when we have researched, the least sexy thing to do is, look at rare earth minerals and cobalt and lithium, all that's, but to me, it all made sense. Cause if you go to what the periodic table of elements is, if you could show that, Rob, you know, our whole concern is, all right, these are all the rare earths out there, all the elements. I was half asleep in biology and science class when I was learning about this, but this is what woke me up, that next image. The biggest concern is when all these elements are owned by China. That to me is a concern.

• 2:13:02Adam Sosnick?

  And this image is very easily found on the internet because a lot of people have been saying, "Oh, guys, if you want to know what China's doing, they're trying to control everything here." And a lot of this is important for our technology, for our defense, for our infrastructure. And if they can basically turn off the fuse, just like they're considering during in Europe, that's very problematic. So this whole decoupling of China and ending this relationship, I don't see us decoupling. I don't see, hopefully, any military actions. But we're definitely in sort of a Cold War, if not the temperature being heated up right now. But this China-Russia...

• 2:13:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, you don't look like you want to say something.

• 2:13:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I don't... You said you disagreed with us, and I don't really hear disagreement. I don't think the strategy in China is the same. I didn't say that. I think the president's got great people that are in position, that are lining up with the needs of certain negotiations. And China plays a long game, and you can't go in there the way you would with Putin.

• 2:14:01Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 2:14:01Tom Ellsworth?

  But I think we're getting W's and we're getting progress. Look at the progress on India. The numbers come out, and all of a sudden Modi's talking about who he is and isn't buying oil from. And the Indians, go look at Chapter 1 back in March, April. They dug in on round 1, and now they seem to be back with moderating where they're buying oil. And I think that's a W, and I love the fact that it doesn't only take Trump. I think he's leading it, but he's got great people that are out there getting the job done.

• 2:14:34Adam Sosnick?

  I agree. I trust Trump's instincts. I trust Besen. I trust these guys. I'm just simply saying that China's a different beast. And it's amazing that we can pivot to China at this point, get the Middle East nonsense out of the way, and completely pivot to China. And if we can somehow end the Russia-Ukraine war and then completely full attention to China, that's even better for America.

• 2:14:55Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it's pretty telling that we have a president who's able to negotiate with very different people in very different ways and put the team in place to do it. And I love it.

• 2:15:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, it's amazing sometimes when you have a very, very strong personality, like the president does, you tend to attract...

• 2:15:18Patrick Bet-David?

  The area where it's not necessarily your strength, but attract the same level of toughness, or whatever approach that you have. Meaning, notice how gentle Besant is. Right? Do you notice how Besant, how he is?

• 2:15:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Smooth.

• 2:15:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, very smooth. Notice how Kushner is. Okay? Do you see how Kushner is?

• 2:15:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Cool as a cucumber.

• 2:15:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Notice how, you know, a lot, a lot of these guys, how they are. Okay?

• 2:15:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Their, their temperament. It's a very, very interesting place of where, where they are. And I think when it comes out to making tough deals, that, that's not the same with like, Cash's.

• 2:15:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:15:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Energetic. It's not everybody that's like that. Howard Lutnick, massive personality. You know, he's a doer himself. Howard probably sees himself as somebody that could be a president if he wanted to go there. He's a, he, he thinks very highly of himself. Kind of a tough New York banker. He is. Yeah, it's exactly what he is. But I think with these sensitive deals like Qatar, you know, Israel, you need the Kushners and Whitkoff. China, you need somebody like a Besant to go and do his part. And who's going with him? Who's going with, uh, uh, is it JD? Is it JD and Besant going?

• 2:16:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, where?

• 2:16:30Patrick Bet-David?

  There was, why?

• 2:16:31Tom Ellsworth?

  China.

• 2:16:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Not going, but that they're having a conversation.

• 2:16:33Tom Ellsworth?

  I want to say, I want to say, yes, I read in one of the stories that JD will be with Besant.

• 2:16:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I, I thought so as well. So temperament matters, the bigger the deals are, and it looks like they're making progress. All I know is when the China announcement is made, imagine how the market's going to respond that day. When the announcement is made, Tom, how, how do you think the market will, uh, respond? 1% day, 3% day, 5% day? What do you think the market does?

• 2:16:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Depending on what has happened, if the previous day was like a little bit down, you could have a 3.5% day.

• 2:17:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree. That's what I think.

• 2:17:04Tom Ellsworth?

  But I think you're going to have a 1.5. I'll, I'll put my handicap on 1.5 to 2% day if there is a, a strong announcement about real.

• 2:17:15Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a sudden announcement. If it's an announcement of its coming staggering like for three weeks, then it's going to be point two percent, point eight percent, point six percent. But if it's a sudden one day, it could be a one and a half to three and a half.

• 2:17:26Tom Ellsworth?

  We've come to a deal on the following three things.

• 2:17:28Patrick Bet-David?

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