Trump TROLLS, Govt Shutdown, Gaza Peace Plan & Charlie Kirk MYSTERY Construction | PBD Podcast | Ep. 658

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Brandon Aceto cover Trump’s trolling of Schumer & Jeffries, the federal government shutdown, Netanyahu's controversial Gaza peace plan, and the mystery construction taking place at Charlie Kirk's assassination site. ------ 🤵 THE GENTLEMAN'S COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/473gS1s Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES COMMUNITY: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:56Speaker 02

  Did you ever think you would make it? I feel unsafe, it takes three to three. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright.

• 1:08Speaker 03

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:13Speaker 02

  You are a one of one? My son's right. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, sounds good. So we are going live officially. It's been now what? Nine hours, folks, since the government shut down. Nine hours. If you didn't know, now you know the government's been shut down. People are losing their minds. Trump's posting memes, smiling at Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer, doing his thing that he does. And then yesterday, there was a moment where the president was very concerned. There was a moment where, you know, Bobby Kennedy sneezed behind him. And immediately, because of the extremely aware, paying attention to details, he said, I hope I don't get COVID from you, Bobby. You guys gotta see this. This man's a comedian. Vinnie is right, he is a comedian. So funny. And there's a bunch of other stuff that's going on.

• 2:05Patrick Bet-David?

  So we have to talk about the government shutdown. Netanyahu agreed to a 20-point plan to end war in Gaza. Trump signals former FBI Christopher Wray is being pro by DOJ after Comey indictment.

• 2:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Pete Hexit starts telling, you know, he's expecting people to be in physical shape. And you got, who's the girl's name from The View? Sunny Rosen is like.

• 2:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Sunny Hostin.

• 2:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Why is it such a big deal to get your people to be in shape? You have to watch this clip to see if it makes any sense to you. And then aside from that TikTok Byte Dance to keep 50% profit and Trump says TikTok should be tweaked. To become 100% MAGA. Like this stuff you're not supposed to say, he keeps saying. TikTok US is worth only $14 billion. I think that was a great discount. In any other part of the world, TikTok would be a 100 billion plus dollar company. I have a theory. Somebody got an 86 billion dollar discount. It's a nice discount and Tom's got a theory, guys. So stick around for the theory. Ilhan Omar doubles down on attacking Charlie Kirk. There is no legacy to honor.

• 3:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I think that's the conversation with Don Lemon. If I am not mistaken.

• 3:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, Ilhan, she's walking in the streets, man on the street.

• 3:18Patrick Bet-David?

  That's just phenomenal, those two together. Israel is losing information. Where Charlie Kirk's letter to Netanyahu, Tom's got some thoughts on that. There is a poll that shows liberal women are on a crash course with dating hell. The dating hell they created. What, I mean, this data, folks, you have to read this on what it is. The older liberal women get, the more open they are to conservative men. But the older conservative men get, the less open they are to liberal women. And there is science behind it, folks, because this is a science-driven poll we're talking about from Daily Caller. And then we have Newsom courts big goal as gas prices threaten political ambitions. Rahm Emanuel weighing presidential bid navigates a Democratic Party moving left.

• 4:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Voters in majority, major US city view capitalism only slightly more favorably than socialism. And that pisses Tom off. Tom is very angry about that. Uh, very angry about it, but slightly not that angry because Shohei hit a nice home run at the Dodgers. One of the Yankees lost yesterday. So Tom came in here doing backflips, celebrating. He's been here since 6 o'clock, putting up signs of Dodger flags everywhere. There was baseball yesterday. I thought the season ended on Sunday.

• 4:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Democratic Party hits historical low favorability in new national poll. Tom's got thoughts. Vinny's got thoughts on the Kim Jeffries and Trump. Charlie Javis gets his seven years for defrauding JP Morgan. However, Tom, show me this. I'm not going to tell you what the lawyer said.

• 4:48Speaker 03

  It is funny.

• 4:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Lawyer said, lawyer said to the judge, you have to see what this lawyer. This lawyer has some audacity to say what he had to say to the judge.

• 4:57Speaker 03

  Brass.

• 4:58Patrick Bet-David?

  As AI threatens white collar work, more young Americans chase blue collar careers. We got a younger American here to tell us what he's chasing. We'll see what's going to happen with him. Now LA is dying as Hollywood businesses say tourism cash has dropped by up to 50% after Las Vegas hit the skids and then Don Lemon sparks fury with wild rant about white men broken. Folks, if you're white, according to Don Lemon, you're broken. And he's trying to fix you. He's trying to fix you. And I don't know.

• 5:32Speaker 03

  Wasn't his wife a white? Oh, never mind.

• 5:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Despite being married to one is how the story ends. Despite being married to one and Tom, listen, I've kept these stories just for Tom. Butt lifts in Miami, breast implants in Beverly Hills, plastic surgery by region. Tom wants to get to the bottom of it because there's a business model behind this. And then eventually, God willing, we'll hit that Coldplay story. They need some attention. They need some attention. And then a novice defense secretary lectures the brass on what it takes to win. Pete Heck said HUD displays banner blaming radical left Democrats for government shutdown. Military leaders absorb highly partisan presentation from Trump exit. And then we got a couple of the things to get into, folks. There is a major memo. I think you guys have to see it. I think it's very, very important. Life changing.

• 6:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, every once in a while you meet a man who gives you a life changing advice. And you have to, you have to make note of it. And you just like make a note of it. Sheriff Grady from Polk County. We're going to show this video to you. He's, he's, and he's teaching people why not to hire prostitutes.

• 6:38Patrick Bet-David?

  And he does it in such a, you have to, I have the clip Rob, I mean, he's a legend. If you don't know who he is, this man's a philosopher. He could have been a pastor in a previous life. He could have been a comedian. He could have been playing baseball with Lou Gehry style comedy that he's got. He's one of one, he's got some advice he wants to share with you guys. I think it's important, we gotta go through it to all the young men that are watching this. And then aside from that, I got a couple of other things that I want to read about. Maxine Waters, the way she reacts, we found a guy that says, the range bro clip that we showed last week. He says he debunked it and we're gonna have to show this one clip to you and he's got some stuff to say about it. Again, the idea with everything that's going on with Charlie Kirk, Vinny called the school yesterday.

• 7:20Patrick Bet-David?

  He called the Utah University yesterday, talked to five people. Eventually got a hold of the director of communication, he's gonna probably give the name. Call that person five times. No pickup. No pickup to see what's going on there. And so, you know, you know, so he'll give you that perspective. And then I got a story here that I saw this morning, which I love. This says, one bad apple destroys a great team. Yeah, the timing of this story is bad because, but this, this has nothing to do with that. You know, apple, he's more like a banana, but this, this apple here that we're talking about is a different story that we're talking about, which we'll get into. And a couple of the clips, but by the way, can you imagine you wake up one morning?

• 8:01Patrick Bet-David?

  And, you know, because of them trying to censor you when you were running for president, something you have the right to do. Google, YouTube, Twitter, everybody tried to censor you. And then 60 Minutes agrees to pay Trump 16 million dollars for editing Kamala Harris's interview. ABC agrees to pay Trump 15 million dollars in a settlement of a defamation lawsuit. Twitter agrees to pay Trump 10 million dollars for suspending him. And Facebook agrees to pay Trump 25 million dollars for suspending him. And then YouTube just agreed to pay President Trump 24 and a half million dollars for suspending his account in 2021. This is the tweet is from who Rob, can we read? Danielle DiSosa Gill, I hope I said the last name, last name right, like Benji Gill, Gill.

• 8:43Patrick Bet-David?

  So, this guy made almost a hundred million dollars for just being censored and suspended. And the guy keeps winning, winning, winning, and then Jimmy Fallon comes out saying, look. We're always telling jokes on both sides Fallon always we're fair and Colbert I think went on Kimmel last night to try to say some stuff and Kimmel came back and made fun of JD Vance hardcore so maybe we gotta show some of this stuff to kinda see what's going on over there with the viewership which we will we will but before we get into it I do want to tell you guys if you want to get all the notes that we get for free all the notes that we cover so you have access to everything that we're gonna go through all you have to do is download Manac go to the PBD

• 9:24Patrick Bet-David?

  podcast circle whether you have an Android or Apple go to our circle download it and get the notes and follow track and every time there's updates different things and if you want to communicate and network with each other you pay 10 bucks a month and 20 50 a month allows you to do the whole thing the whole benefits that comes with it but for free you can get the notes of what we're going through here on our podcast and then next thing before we get into the podcast guys this shirt I'm wearing I wear the white I wear the blue I wear the black when you wear this shirt you know what it feels like you ever had somebody you love hugs you and tells you how amazing you cotton hands let me tell you I'm not kidding with you feel the material real quick feel the material real quick do you not do you not feel the love felt like Don Lemon for a second that's not good buddy no but I'm just

• 10:08Patrick Bet-David?

  no one's gonna buy what would you say no it felt like it's soft no but let me tell you oh you felt oh you felt soft okay then maybe the quality of this thing I wear by Timmy shows right here Rob can you zoom in to show different features of the shirt by Timmy logo right here gold future looks bright on the side VT on the side and anybody and everybody who's bought this this is low key maybe our best item we have on there quality wise low key if you're somebody that wears dress shirts get the white the black and the blue wear it for a month three times if you don't like it I want to call and talk to you I will literally FaceTime you say how can you not like these shirts that you wear

• 10:50Patrick Bet-David?

  them but you gotta order all three of them go put them on sport them and leave that button open so people see that valuable logo right there to see who you're representing especially if you support this brand if you love what we do here go get yourself a Rob, if you can put the link below to the business section, that would be great for people to go place the order here. VT merch, by the way, the black is sick because it's gold on black. Look at that right there. Zoom in a little bit, Rob. Damn, that's sick. And then what does the white one look like? Rob, can we go to see what the white one looks like? White one looks like? White, white and gold. Ooh, that looks so good. Look at that. Guys, you wear this and your lady sees you with this. I'm telling you right now, studies have shown 40 weeks later, something could happen.

• 11:33Patrick Bet-David?

  It could cost you $350,000 if you wear this shirt. That's what the quality is. The quality has got a lot of, uh, special things that's going on. Again, go to VTmerch.com. That's pretty expensive for the horizontal box. And with that being said, can I start off with just a business thing I read before we go into shutting the government down? Rob, can you pull up the story I just read? I, I just really like this. I think every once in a while, we got to read stories like this about bad apples. Uh, so, so this is a story I was just reading. Science shows how one toxic person can drag down an entire team. Okay? Go to the next slide, Rob, if you could. So, University of Washington research, study shows that just one persistently negative teammate can derail group success. Major drop, teams with one bad apple perform far worse than others.

• 12:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Proven impact, experiment show negativity hurts trust, effort and outcomes. Contagious, toxic behavior spreads quickly inside groups and worse member. The weakest link often provides overall team, predicts overall team success. So, one bad teammate can poison the whole group. Go to the next one. There are three types of bad apples. Zoom in a little bit, Rob, on 46, please. Come on, dude. How they ruin everything. The jerk. Critical, disrespectful, puts others down. The slacker, lazy, withholds effort, deadbeat behavior. Damn, that's very hard. The downer, pessimistic, and nothing's gonna ever happen here.

• 12:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Complaints, spreads negativity. The result, teams argue, stop sharing, communicate less, right? Negative behavior hits harder than positive and spreads fast. Go to the next one. So now let's go to the top a little bit. Your defense strategy, number one, recognize the signs. Spot jerks, slackers and downers early. Two, set boundaries. Limit exposure to negative people. Three, don't try to fix them. You can't unspoilt a bad apple, folks. You cannot fix them. Only God can. Choose your team. Surround yourself with positive people. Address it quickly. Don't let negativity spread and take root. Last but not least, guard your energy. Your success depends on who you're around.

• 13:40Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, 23 years ago, my dad, I had this one guy I loved. I was in first grade together in Iran, junior high school, high school, military together, ballets together, insurance together. Oh, my God, this guy was negative. Funny as hell, but negative. Okay? It was always negative, negative, negative. He'd always blame, it's this person's fault, it's your fault, this other person's fault, it was always negative. And I really wanted to run with this guy for the rest of my life because I loved this guy. One day, my dad and I get into the biggest fight. And he says, "Don't you realize? He's not going to work as hard as you. Let him go. This guy's not going to put the effort the way you're putting it." I said, "You don't believe people can change. I believe people can change under him, but I don't believe you can change." So, we're having this feud together.

• 14:26Patrick Bet-David?

  We're going back and forth. And I will tell you, long term, you win for believing that people can choose to change. There is more positive in you believing that people can improve than not. However, the affirmation that changed my life in one of the biggest ways that took so much weight off my back was when I finally read this and I added to my list. Stop trying to be God. That job is already taken. You can't fix everybody. Only they can fix them with a level of commitment to it. If they don't, sometimes opportunities come up and they screw it up and they think they're bigger than the whole crew and then they take a massive hit. It happens in sports organization and families and churches and friendships, everywhere.

• 15:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And all it takes is one time for you to be a little bit casual, to be like, "Ah, it's going to be okay." Boom, oh, shit, I lost that opportunity. You were casual and you faced somebody that doesn't want any of this kind of stuff to be taking place. And it's unfortunate, but that's kind of how life works. So, if you're watching this yourself, if you're watching PBD Podcast... You probably are not part of the community that's one of these. What it was about? Jerk. Whatever, can you go back to? The jerk. You're probably not because the jerk, the slacker, the downer. You're probably not. Debbie Downer. We would be annoying to watch this, but if you're watching this right now saying shit, I think I'm a little bit of the jerk or the slacker, the downer. Well, listen, get on your knees and pray, okay?

• 15:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Or find a way to change because if you don't, you may lose some of the biggest opportunities in your life. Because many times when we're inside the opportunity, we don't know it until we lose it. Yeah. And then when you lose it, you're like, oh shit, what a moron. Why'd I do that? Don't do that, right? Very simple. So anyways, let's get right into it. Folks, I know you've been nervous because the government's been shut down now for nine hours and 15 minutes. Don't worry, it's gonna be okay, but the government's been shut down. No one's working. By the way, apparently 100,000 people are deciding to quit. I don't know if you saw this or not, Rob, if you want to put this up. This is catastrophic news, folks. 100,000 DMV employees are quitting, not DMV, but just government employees are quitting. Rob, if you want to put that story up, they're out there. They're angry.

• 16:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Over 100,000 federal workers to resign Tuesday amid looming government shutdown. And look at the phones, look at them running around with the phones, recording with that beautiful pink umbrella while it's not even raining. Isn't that awesome? Think about how rich you have to be to have a pink umbrella while the sky is blue and a camera walking around and you're walking away from your job. How awesome it is. That guy probably doesn't even work at the government. It's just a picture that they took, but a great angle, nice people walking there. So here's what's going on, let's talk about this, let's talk about this, let's talk about this. Trump mocks Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries in an AI-generated video after government shutdown meeting.

• 17:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You tell me, when have we ever had a government that would post a meme like this? Which by the way, you have to be honest, Hakeem actually looks good with that mustache. Look closely and that, and that sombrero, right? He can pull it off. What president do you know that is concerned to entertain you and mock his enemies? And be as straight up as this guy here? Go ahead, Rob, play this clip.

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• 18:06Speaker 01

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• 18:36Speaker 06

  There's no way to sugarcoat it. Nobody likes Democrats anymore. We have no voters left because of all of our woke trans bullshit. Not even black people want to vote for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us. So we need new voters. And if we give all these illegal aliens free healthcare, we might be able to get them on our side so they can vote for us. They can't even speak English. So they won't realize we're just a bunch of woke pieces of shit, you know? At least for a while until they learn English and they realize they hate us too.

• 19:10Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, this is not a YouTuber that posted this. Not a podcaster, not an influencer. This is the president of the United States posted a video. And people lost their minds.

• 19:21Speaker 03

  Did he post the one with the mariachi band?

• 19:22Tom Ellsworth?

  There's another one. Hold on, no, did you see that one? He, he didn't stop. There's another one. Did you see the second?

• 19:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop it.

• 19:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Rob, I sent you the second one.

• 19:30Patrick Bet-David?

  There's no way in the world.

• 19:31Tom Ellsworth?

  How about this? You're gonna laugh even harder because it's Hakeem Jeffries getting pissed off, saying, "How dare he..." Say it to my face. Rob, I think I slipped. You did, I got it. Pat, this is... Did he create these? This one's better. No, I think somebody makes them and sends them to him. This one is even better.

• 19:45Patrick Bet-David?

  This is all because the government shutdown?

• 19:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Because they're, they're playing that game. Look, ready, ready for this? Watch.

• 19:51Speaker 07

  Disgusting video, and we're gonna continue to make clear bigotry will get you nowhere. We are fighting to protect the healthcare of our American people in the face of an unprecedented political...

• 20:11Tom Ellsworth?

  He's a troll. He's the ultimate troll.

• 20:13Speaker 03

  They don't know what to do with it.

• 20:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh my god.

• 20:15Speaker 03

  They don't know what to do with it.

• 20:16Patrick Bet-David?

  That is the part about being unpredictable. So Rob, can we give the story about the government shutdown? Let's just kind of go through it right now, what's going on. So.

• 20:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Cause there's a reason for this angle.

• 20:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so JD Vance predicted that the government's gonna shut down after deadly, serious Democrat demand concessions. We're headed towards a shutdown, Vance says, after Trump's meeting with leaders. Is this the clip, Rob? Go ahead and play this clip.

• 20:36Speaker 07

  I want to make one final point here. You will hear a lot from Senate Democrats, from House Democrats, about the fact that American healthcare policy is broken. Well, we know that American healthcare policy is broken. We've been trying to fix it for the eight months that we've been in office. But every single thing that they accused about being broken about American healthcare is policy that Democrats have supported for the past decade. So if they want to talk about how to fix American healthcare policy, let's do it. The Speaker would love to do it. The Senate Majority Leader would love to do it. Let's work on it together. But let's do it in the context of an open government that's providing essential services to the American people. That's all that we're proposing to do. And the fact that they refuse to do that shows how unreasonable their position is. I think we're headed to do a shutdown because the Democrats won't do the right thing. I hope they change their mind, but we're gonna see.

• 21:21Speaker 07

  I'll let the Speaker say a few words.

• 21:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so we are here. Not ahead of two shutdown. We are shut down for nine hours and 19 minutes and 42 seconds. Vinny, your thoughts?

• 21:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, let's, this kind of brings me back to when, remember the border bill was coming through? And they were all losing their mind because the border was wide open. So they proposed the bill and they're like, alright, listen. We're gonna, finally, we'll shut the border down. We'll admit that the border is chaotic and it's unsustainable. But in the bill, there's tens of billions of dollars that have to go to Ukraine. There's billions of dollars that have to go to Israel. There are billions of dollars that have to go to Taiwan. And it's like, no, no, no, timeout, timeout. The border, the bill for the border should go to the, to the border. Okay, and this is the same situation back because the, the, the Democrats want Medicaid, they want money to go to illegals and the bill, it's over 1.7 trillion dollars.

• 22:13Tom Ellsworth?

  And this just again shows you, they're willing to shut down and stop going to work because. Because they put illegal illegals healthcare over Americans. Okay, they're rewarding illegals. And it's I'm actually happy that it's coming to this because they talk all this nonsense. They're gonna blame Trump. They're gonna blame this and that. It's all them. They want money for illegals. And guess what? They're going up against a president that's America first, and he's not having it. Plain and simple.

• 22:37Speaker 03

  Tom, there is a bunch of things that came out. Mark Mitchell was posting them all night. There's a bunch of very interesting polling. 67% of Americans, if you give them a list, do you blame Schumer? Do you blame Trump? Do you blame Congress? Guess what? 67% blame Congress. So in other words, Pat, if you take off, if you just put names on it, that goes one way. But if you say Congress and you add Congress as a name, 67% blame Congress for it. And people said that the last shutdown, they don't feel that it hurt their lives. They felt that it was newsworthy and a lot of things going on. But like 80% of Americans said, my life wasn't personally hurt by the shutdown. Now, we're not talking about government employees. We're talking about voters everywhere else, not government.

• 23:21Speaker 03

  80% said, well, yeah, there was a shutdown, but it didn't really affect me, far as I can tell. It says next, so they blame Congress next. And now more people say they understand uncontrolled spending and our national debt is bad, and it's not just an election year thing, it's bad. They don't know what to do about it, but they understand that it's bad and it hurts the economy long term. Isn't that very interesting? So people will directly blame Trump, directly blame Schumer. But when you step back, America actually said, if the shut, here's the punchline. If the shutdown gets a change in spending, I'm in favor of it. That is a core American voter.

• 24:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's what Trump had to say, and I'm gonna come to you right here. Go ahead, Rob. We could come up and through this whole thing, you know, because I don't know.

• 24:09Speaker 07

  Probably have a shutdown because one of the things they want to do is they want to give incredible Medicare Cadillac, the Cadillac Medicare to illegal immigrants. And what that does is it keeps them coming into our country.

• 24:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Yup.

• 24:24Speaker 07

  And like they do in California and no country can afford that, no country. And we have the border stopped up, we have it closed, we have nobody for four months, zero, zero people came in, that wasn't me, that's me, by the authorities who happen to be liberally oriented. But, but just think of that, we have people offering healthcare to people all over the world that they can't afford to pay.

• 24:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, watch this, you can pause it right there. Pete, Democrats are saying, that's not true, that's not what happened. A podcaster and a, a host goes out there asking a question of Maxine Waters, who seems very happy, she's asking Maxine a question here, and look at Maxine's response, go ahead.

• 25:03Speaker 02

  Aren't Democrats demanding healthcare for illegal aliens?

• 25:05Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 25:06Speaker 02

  Democrats are demanding healthcare for everybody.

• 25:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, God.

• 25:12Speaker 02

  We want to save lives, we want to make sure that healthcare is available to those who would die but having the help of their government. So, you're good with a government shutdown, even if it means giving healthcare to people who aren't Americans? Well, you keep, that's what you're pushing on. What you're trying to do is, you're standing here and you're trying to make me say that somehow we're gonna put non-citizens over Americans, quit it, stop it. This is the kind of journalism we don't need. No, I'm just asking.

• 25:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep watching.

• 25:48Speaker 02

  No, you're not, you're being divisive, no, please, don't, you don't need to ask that question, you're just trying to get controversy here, you're not gonna get it from me.

• 25:57Patrick Bet-David?

  It's already happened.

• 25:58Speaker 02

  We want to save healthcare for all people, thank you. Thank you, Congresswoman, I appreciate it.

• 26:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Good work, girl. She did great. Just simple. So Brandon, what do you think's going on here?

• 26:07Speaker 03

  It's amazing. Like, we spend 2.4 trillion on healthcare, right? Like, what do they want to bring it to? You know, 67% of the budget goes to entitlement. So like, what's the number they actually think is realistic? Like, are they genuinely trying to bankrupt the country? And you know, when they say the government shutdown's about healthcare, like, nobody in politics understands healthcare. I can assure you of that. One of the best books about healthcare I ever read was about by Marty McCurry, the current head of the FDA, and he just goes on to say that even genuine geniuses that have deeply studied the problems with healthcare can't explain it that well and don't understand it that well. So if this is about, really about healthcare, it's not gonna get resolved anytime soon. But the government shutdown thing is silly, and I think it'll get resolved pretty quickly without serious impact. Like, last time I appreciated when he did it, actually, to get the border wall done. That was one of his epic all-time moments in his first administration.

• 26:49Patrick Bet-David?

  So what would your success? So let's just say the government shut down to get something out of it. What would you consider this government shutdown leading to a success? Tom, I'm gonna come to you as well. Brandon, you first.

• 26:59Speaker 03

  Well, that's the problem, I guess, is that it doesn't seem like Trump is asking for anything. It seems like the Democrats are asking to increase the 2.4 trillion in healthcare spending to something else, which I don't, like, I think it needs to go down by a lot, if anything. So I don't think they could break on that. It doesn't, I haven't heard Trump ask for anything, so I don't know if it's gonna come to a resolution.

• 27:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Very interesting. Tom, what would you say?

• 27:18Tom Ellsworth?

  So, here's what's going on, America. And Brandon, back me up here. There's a thing called the continuing resolution.

• 27:25Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 27:26Tom Ellsworth?

  And you'll see CR. You'll see in Wall Street Journal, you know, your local, wherever you're getting news, you'll see CR this week. You know, senators, congressmen arguing over a CR. You have AOC telling the Senate, saying, "I am ready, and you can negotiate with me directly," until three senators said, "Hey, chick, you're in the House of Representatives. We're the Senate."

• 27:46Patrick Bet-David?

  They said that.

• 27:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, not like that. I said that. But they were like, "Excuse me, the Senate will negotiate with itself." But she's out there grandstanding. So everybody's grandstanding about CR. What is a CR? The continuing resolution is a bill that says how to keep a resolution to keep the government continuing. But it goes back to exactly what Vinnie was talking about. Remember when we covered the Inflation Reduction Act on this podcast?

• 28:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 28:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Inside and we said, wait a minute, circumcisions for Tunisia. Remember that? Yeah. And there was things in there, but it goes like this.

• 28:19Patrick Bet-David?

  What does that mean though?

• 28:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, Pat.

• 28:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Money laundering decisions for Tunisia?

• 28:22Tom Ellsworth?

  We're giving money for. Hey, Pat, I know you're Speaker of the House and I respect you, sir. But um, I, you can have my vote, but I gotta have the circumcisions in Tunisia. I need five and a half million. It's going to a foreign aid company organization.

• 28:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that really an epidemic going on over there?

• 28:37Tom Ellsworth?

  No, but that's an example. And then they go to Vinnie and Vinnie says, hey, um, we're building a dam in Minnesota. I need another 40 million for the dam. You gotta hide it in here. And then you're, and then suddenly the continuing resolution is, is, is, is bloated with all this stuff.

• 28:52Patrick Bet-David?

  But Tom, you, you sent a clip to Rob. This is something that's important to them, right? The 2019 debate that was taking place. Watch this clip, folks, that, uh, Tom sent in to Rob.

• 29:00Tom Ellsworth?

  This goes to Maxine Waters saying, you're trying to make me say this. They speak for themselves right here.

• 29:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this, folks.

• 29:06Speaker 07

  Raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants.

• 29:11Patrick Bet-David?

  There we go, raise your hands, folks.

• 29:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at that, all of them. Oh, it's unanimous.

• 29:17Patrick Bet-David?

  And so, so here's my thing, cause I, now, cause as you guys are all talking and Brandon, you too, you made a good point. Why, why are the Democrats so, so loud and so proud and willing to shut down the United States government for illegals? And I thought of Brandon, am I right or am I wrong? It's for, for votes and it's for power because if you promise them a healthcare, then you're creating like this long-term dependency. So these people that are coming over for the future voting base, because think about it, there's, Tom Homan said, there's almost 20 million of them here. I think Trump and said, Trump said that they, they deported 2 million. Okay, good for you, but that's still 18 million people that are here and you incentivize them to stay here. And then guess what? We're gonna, we're the party that's gonna give you free healthcare.

• 29:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Vote for us because I mean, what, why else do you get Democrats care? They don't give a damn. If you, if you guys think Democrats care about your, your wellbeing, you're wrong. And look at what this open border that they have, all these illegals here that they want to pay for. How many, how many jobs have, have Americans lost? How many crimes have been committed towards Americans? How many sexual assaults? I don't want to say the R word, but how much stuff? has to happen to prove to Democrat voters, they don't care about you. They care about the votes and they care about their power and that's it.

• 30:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinnie, you hit a great point. Go for it. Side point. If Kamala wins the election, are they pushing this hard for the healthcare right now?

• 30:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course not.

• 30:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Right, but they lost the election and they're looking for more voters.

• 30:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, exactly. So watch this, folks. As we're going through this, there's a story that comes out. That says, uh, where's the story here? Democratic Party hits historic low favorability in a new national poll. Here's another one. They had one a month and a half ago. There's another one that comes out. If you guys want to go to it, it's on page fifteen. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, let me go to it here. I thought I had it. Page, uh, at sixteen, but let me see where fifteen is. Do you have it? If you just give it to me, I'll read it. Oh, I have it right here fifteen. I was just looking at the date. That's a ten one. Uh, okay, here we go. So Democratic Party hits the lows. It sounds. In what sounds like a broken record, the Democratic Party hits another historic low national poll this week. Thirty percent of voters. Nationwide, uh, question in Quinnipac.

• 31:26Patrick Bet-David?

  University survey said that they have a favorable opinion of Democratic Party. Let me say that one more time to you, folks. Thirty percent. Thirty? Thirty percent. Thirty percent. And fifty-four percent said they hold an unfavorable opinion. This is the lowest favorability rating for Democratic Party. Since the Quinnipac poll began. Asking voters this question in oh eight, which means it's never been any lower. The survey's release. Uh, uh, noted the Quinnipac survey was, uh, the latest poll this year that shows this and obviously there's a lot of this stuff going on. So Tom. As, as they're going through this, don't you think? And maybe Brandon, I'll come to you. Don't you think as they're going through this?

• 32:04Patrick Bet-David?

  That they have to sit there and realize this is real numbers. You can't just go up there and keep playing this game. People are not liking it. People are not happy about this. People want to go back to common sense. And the more conservatives and Republicans go to common sense, the more they feel they have to do complete opposite. And they're thinking like this is our way of winning the vote because we have to go against the grain. Yeah. And favorability goes lower and lower. And Laura, what do you think's happening here?

• 32:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, it's sad when you have to find an entire new voting base because your country distrusts you so much like. If they just, you know, like if they just acted like normal people, then they'd be fine. I mean, most people who are Republicans right now used to be Democrats at one point in time. Like a lot of people in my family, a lot of my friends used to be Democrats because Democrats used to be the normal people, but they won't let a normal person get through the gatekeepers in their party like they they've destroyed anybody who's been a threat to the establishment people like Bernie Sanders. And even, you know, when Steve Nace Smith starts acting like he might run for president in a couple of years, they went on attack mode against him right away. So it's they're doing it to themselves and you know, saying free healthcare is like saying the war on terror or the war on drugs. It's like this open ended impossible thing that

• 33:17Speaker 03

  sounds good, but isn't feasible. Like how about reform the healthcare system instead of just blankly saying free healthcare? So, um, yeah, I think that they need to let a normal person get through the gatekeepers to begin with to.

• 33:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let me ask you a question. Uh, Brandon, how old are you?

• 33:31Speaker 03

  Thirty.

• 33:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Just turned thirty. Thirty, thirty. So thirty years.

• 33:34Tom Ellsworth?

  It was a great party, by the way. Yes.

• 33:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So thirty years old. So the question is, uh, where do you see like if you're, if you, if they hire you as a consultant, you're a younger guy. You read everything and anything that's on politics, you're, you know, go through the material that's out there. What are two or three areas that you think Democrats could go attack? Think about blue ocean strategy to say if they went here, they can get some common sense people to join them. Where would it be?

• 34:01Speaker 03

  Easy. Both parties should do this. The cost of living, number one. So the immigration affects this too. The cost of a house is went from, I think, three hundred and fifty thousand dollars on average to four seventy five over the last six years, like post COVID, after printing all the money. So, you know, we used to build five hundred thousand houses a year in the seventies. Now it's like fifty thousand houses a year. So they're massive.

• 34:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Five hundred thousand in the seventies to fifty thousand today.

• 34:24Speaker 03

  Yeah. So they don't make it conducive or easy at all for home builders to build homes profitably, you know, like my grandfather was a home builder. He said it was very profitable back in the day, but today it's not even worthwhile to try to build a starter sized home. So that I think that's number one.

• 34:36Patrick Bet-David?

  That's one. I like that. What's your two?

• 34:38Speaker 03

  And then just simply reforming the healthcare system, like maybe giving government. Grants to provide more doctors because it's actually very hard to become a doctor or a PA like they have a limited amount of doctors they take in their programs like really qualified people don't get into the programs a lot of the time so investing into things that are shortages and like there are shortages in doctors there are shortages in houses so like addressing market side pain points instead of just saying like oh let's throw money at it.

• 35:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, give me a third one. So I got the first one. I got the second one. What's the third one?

• 35:08Speaker 03

  Um, how about not being so inclined to go to war, you know, because both parties seem to that seems to be a really bipartisan thing is to, you know, just get into other people's business and um assist in wars across the country or across the world that we have nothing to do with.

• 35:20Patrick Bet-David?

  So how do you do that? How do you do the last one?

• 35:23Speaker 03

  Uh, the last one I would say is to stop giving money to Ukraine, say, Ukraine, hey, I'm sorry, it's, you know, unfortunate that you lost some land, but we're gonna have to give some land to Russia because that's the only way around this.

• 35:33Patrick Bet-David?

  What if, what if you can get some minerals in return for us to be protected long term because they have a lot of good things that they're offering that US has to kind of like what the deal he just did on the lithium deal that the president went in and they bought into it, what 10% to say, hey, we're gonna have this problem in the future. We may as well protect ourselves. I think it was a Canadian company, if I'm not mistaken, right?

• 35:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, Canadian is in there and General Motors. Yep.

• 35:56Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so you know, somebody may say to you, well, you know, we kind of need that deal because Ukraine has some of the best resources in the world.

• 36:03Speaker 03

  Well, we didn't need that deal before this war was happening and I don't think Ukraine's the only place in the world where we could get those minerals and to in order to get that deal and to end this war like so there's I don't see a way in which they could get that territory back without losing much more than we gain with the mineral deal. You know, Russia has those minerals. I think a lot of countries in that area, even Canada has a lot of the minerals. Canada has like all the minerals we could ever imagine that we would need, most of which Ukraine has. So I think the minerals thing is just something that sounds good.

• 36:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Right. So you just have it. Tom, what would you say?

• 36:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I agree with him because uh where in that poll that we were just talking about, the Quinnipiac poll that led to your question, um, the Republicans have made gains among black, Hispanic and younger voters and that's it. It wasn't more middle class people. It wasn't more old people. Those blocks were there. It was shifts among black, Hispanic and younger voters that led to the Republicans under Donald Trump, winning a little bit more of every county and we saw the red map. That's why the younger voters, what did they do? They went after social media. They want us, can we censor the Republicans on social media where the younger voters are? And then we can convince the younger voters of this. And now they go the other way, voting block. Where's the next voting block? All the undocumented.

• 37:13Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't care where you came from, let's give them something. We will be the generous one. Hey, you just got here, you're in trouble, you're sick, you know, we will be the generous one. It's all about manipulating the voting block. And I think the first two things you said for the younger voters, the cost of living and healthcare, I happen to agree with that. When you take a look, if you go to get a job, you really need to get healthcare coverage. And young people will tell you that they look for the jobs where the benefit is like for one healthcare. A lot of times you get one person covered, just you, or you only have to pay a small amount and now you have good healthcare. You break your leg, you don't have to go to wait in line at some low rent HMO or deal with Medicaid.

• 37:57Tom Ellsworth?

  You can actually go and get a good doctor and get good care. So healthcare is big. And then cost of living. We need more building and we need more starter homes. And we need starter homes, and by the way, we need jobs in cities, we need jobs to return to cities, and we need like condos and townhouses, homes that young people could afford in safe cities where there are jobs. The whole thing would work if you get one hand washing another on that. But he hit the nail on the head on cost of living.

• 38:26Speaker 06

  And Beck, I just have one question, like, I'm just taking a step back and you guys all make great points. There, it's clearly, it's obvious with the numbers and the numbers are freaking screaming through the roof. Democrats are there, it's gone, the support is gone, everything is gone. I don't see them shifting. Does anybody see them changing gears anytime soon? So, and we all know that they could play dirty.

• 38:46Speaker 07

  Think of it in that sense, what are they gonna do? What can they do because they know the ship is beyond sinking, Pat? It's, they're done. Everybody, Hispanics, everybody is jumping ship. What is, what is their other option, Brendan?

• 39:00Speaker 03

  If they just gave up.

• 39:01Speaker 07

  Take it. But Tom, they don't just take it. Look at, look at the history of what we're just seeing and the stories are gonna come. January 6th, Russia, these people don't play, they're not, they're not finished.

• 39:10Tom Ellsworth?

  If the voting doesn't work, rig the voting and just take it. And then shift to a socialist Marxist. That's the, that's the globalist agenda.

• 39:18Patrick Bet-David?

  They will adjust. Now, I'm going to a different place. Let me tell you, Vinny, this goes back to, uh, uh, this goes back to three years ago when Trump lost. It was four years ago, but three years ago when we're in it.

• 39:30Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 39:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody is like, oh my God, it's the end of the world, you know? When we're in COVID and we're getting strikes and all this stuff is happening and my guys are like, Pat, what do we do? We gotta be creating, and I'm talking to a bunch of the guys. Like I'm back in the days, there was a guy named Brian Rose who did a podcast one time and he had 65,000 live watching him concurrent. And everybody's like, oh my God, look how many people he's got watching. He had all these guys that were doing, like this is in 2000. You know, you would see Meet Kevin doing great things with podcasts and he, he was doing a great job every day talking about the, the next stimulus package, the next stimulus package. And he was one of the best guys doing it. Graham Stephan was on, all these guys that were doing stuff and, and giving their message. And you're like, hey, what's gonna happen? Who's gonna stay up?

• 40:16Patrick Bet-David?

  How long are they gonna be able to do this? And I kept saying, let me tell you one thing about common sense, man. Sometimes common sense takes a minute, but it's, it's undefeated. Vinny, common sense is truly undefeated. It is. And eventually, anybody that's manipulative, deceptive, dark, you're, you're eventually gonna get exposed. And by the way, probably you could have gotten away with it a hundred years ago. Maybe you could have gotten away with it 60 years ago. An assassination attempt happens. You could get away with it because there was only one camera. Yeah. This is the worst time. Yeah. This is the worst time. Because a podcaster can be saying something. And next thing you know.

• 40:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Five people can send an anonymous email to you. Giving you intel on what happened with the FBI. What happened with CIA. What happened with certain thing. Blowing the whistle in a indirect way. With an anonymous email. Giving you all the intel. And no one's gonna know. That happens today. Didn't happen 50 years ago. Didn't happen 60 years ago. This is a time that I think Democrats are going to adjust. I just don't know who. That person's going to be that's gonna come and have that conversation with them. Of course, you're seeing a mass exodus. Of people that are leaving. Their arguments suck right now. Truly, their arguments and their ideas suck. Let me read this article to you that has nothing to do with politics. But it has to do with bad ideas. So, this article here.

• 41:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Says poll shows liberal women are on a crash course. With the dating hell they created. What do you mean crash course? Rob, if you want to pull up the story here. So, is there a glimmer of hope for bitter, single liberal women? A new study shows. From the Institute for Governors and Civics at Florida State University. Which knows a lot about this because they party hardcore. If you know of people from Florida State University. They typically get stuck in traffic a lot. Showed that, yes, there might be hope. Yet for single liberals who hate conservatives so much. That they would never be willing to date one.

• 42:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me read this again to you. There might be hope yet for single liberals who hate conservatives so much that they would never be willing to date one. But this study found that that generally as liberal women age. And gravity takes over. They become more. That's the article doesn't say that. They become. They become more open to dating a conservative man. Weird. However, their openness would age. Might be for, might all be for nothing. According to the study, as conservative men get older, they actually become less open to dating a liberal. The result of the study are not definitive by any stretch of the imagination,

• 43:10Patrick Bet-David?

  though there is a certain kernel of truth to it. There are plenty of young men in the world who might not be full-on MAGA, diehard, but hold conservative beliefs. They are not so far right as to be unwilling to date a liberal, right? You just want some work. My brain stay with me. They may, I have a question already for you, that's where I'm going with this. They may have voted for Trump, but they are fairly open-minded. Young liberal women, on the other hand, would outright reject this person as potential romantic or life partner. It doesn't matter if he voted for Trump, but disagrees with the president's tariffs or deportation policy, there is no nuance for liberal women. They are completely intolerant. And it's this intolerance

• 43:53Patrick Bet-David?

  that leads to conservative men becoming more closed off in older age. Again, this is a Daily Caller story. How many conservative men have seen their relationships blow up because of politics? How many have been rejected just because they think abortion should be reserved for extreme cases like incest or dire medical emergency? I'd bet a fair share. So Vinny, I got a question for you. You're, you and I are the same age, okay? But let's go to the 28-year-old Vinny. Yep. Would the 28-year-old Vinny consider marrying a hot, 24-year-old liberal AOC-voting socialist? 28? If I wasn't into politics? You're not into politics, like, you would have married her. Of course. Would you have even thought about it? No! She's hot. I wouldn't even thought, like, hot, like, I wouldn't.

• 44:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Brandon, you're 30.

• 44:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:40Patrick Bet-David?

  A, a, a, that girl that came that did a commercial for us.

• 44:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Whom you introduced to us, right?

• 44:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 44:46Patrick Bet-David?

  If she was a hardcore liberal, okay? She's drop-dead gorgeous. You'll like her, she's attractive, you're probably gonna share this with her. He won't stop talking, you ought to go on a date with him already. If they haven't already. By the way, if she's a hardcore liberal, AOC, armpits, the whole, now, but she's drop-dead gorgeous. Would you marry her?

• 45:08Speaker 03

  No.

• 45:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Why not? Why wouldn't you marry her?

• 45:10Speaker 03

  Oh, they'll ruin your life.

• 45:12Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean by that?

• 45:13Speaker 03

  Because they're just nasty like they-

• 45:15Patrick Bet-David?

  She's gorgeous, though.

• 45:16Speaker 03

  I know, but it's like a trap.

• 45:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Brandon, be careful. She's hot.

• 45:19Speaker 03

  But the problem is with them is that they want to control the relationship. They want to control the dynamic and they they just have like this nasty-

• 45:26Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think as a man you can impose your, you know, masculine side and raise the kids the way you want?

• 45:31Speaker 03

  No, they'd call that toxic masculinity.

• 45:33Patrick Bet-David?

  They would?

• 45:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:34Patrick Bet-David?

  So even if she's gorgeous, hot, dropped it, you walk in the mall, everybody's having, you know, necks just breaking because they're checking out your girl, you don't care. You wouldn't marry her if she was a liberal.

• 45:46Speaker 03

  Mary, no. I might get tricked like initially, but um, Mary, no, that'd ruin your life. You know, you always say- you always say you can make the wrong decision with who you're marrying that could ruin your life.

• 45:55Patrick Bet-David?

  It's so true, though. Mind you, if I was, if I was 28 and like his age and like involved with politics, absolutely not. Because the values aren't there, the child upbringing is not there, the letting them be whatever they want, trans, I'm not with that. And then Pat, and I understand that there are Democrat Christians, I'm not, I'm not stupid, but do they really give in to God? Are they really gonna raise the family under- What if she's a challenge? What do you mean a challenge? Like, you like a challenge? You're like, I think I can convert her. You, you like, you guys are laying in bed and you kind of drop a MAGA hat next to her. You're like, give her like a pink, you know, lingerie with MAGA sticker on the back of it. I just bought it from Victoria's Secret, you drop it, she's wearing it, she has no clue there's a sticker on the back that says MAGA.

• 46:39Patrick Bet-David?

  And he said, "Baby, you look so good. Turn around, let me take a picture of you." Look at the- What is that you put on-

• 46:43Speaker 03

  And you've got the Home of the Patriot missile boxer shorts.

• 46:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And then make up breakup sex. But you wouldn't do it. You're not gonna do it. I can't, I can't do it because I already know long run, like, it's not worth, it's not worth the effort to try to fix her to get on the journey that we're going. So you know what's happening with them?

• 46:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 46:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Because the looks, you know, go so quickly, right? Guys, I got kicked in my hand by my son in the pool three months ago. Let me tell you, it's still there. I would have recovered within 24 hours.

• 47:09Speaker 03

  Oh, easy money.

• 47:10Patrick Bet-David?

  It's still there if I was in my twenties, right? It's a very different life. I went to the doctor yesterday. I gave enough blood to, you know, share with a small little village in Africa. Literally, I gave so much blood, I'm like going like this, I'm like, no, there's only like eight more left. And she keeps taking blood and I'm just watching the blood squirting into this thing. I'm like, how much more blood do you need from me? Like, I mean, am I getting paid to give you all this blood? No, we just kind of need to test your, uh, whatever stuff. And I'm 46, so the doctor's like, look- You're kind of that age. I said, I'm no, I'm thinking I'm gonna do that at 50. Well, the doctor's saying you gotta do it at 45. I said, I can take some time. No, you kinda gotta do it. It's now, now or never. You want me to really do it? Yeah, you gotta do it. I said, dude, I don't wanna do it. It's a little bit awkward. You got, you know what I'm talking about. You know, you just did it a few months ago. It was like the greatest day of your life. You were coming in here, celebrating, excited, you felt lighter, happier.

• 47:55Patrick Bet-David?

  The doctor was very happy. Okay. The doctor was like, yeah! So, but go into it. I mean, think, think about this, Tom. Think about this. Think about this. Think about just that look right there, right? Go a little bit lower, go a little bit lower. They don't wanna have kids. They don't wanna get married. They're angry. They hate men. They're angry, but do you think they were born this way? No, I, Pat, I think the system did because what, those women, look at this group and look at the epidemic that's happening. They're not having kids and what's the globalist branding idea is less people. There's too many, you've, you've, you've heard it from Bill Gates and them. What's the biggest problem? There's too many human beings. They've said these words. Who was the, the prince, um, the duke of? Machiavelli?

• 48:39Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, the guy, the, the guy from England that died. He was a prince, I believe, of York. When they, they said, he goes, you know what? If I die, I would love to come back as a virus just to kill as many people as I can. He's, this is a, a loyal, a, a royal family member. It's too many people, Pat, and that's what? This is a whole huge generation of women that are like, I don't need men, I'm independent, all I need is my dog and my cat, Prince Philip. He said, if I reincarnate, I'd come back as a deadly virus to solve overpopulation. So that, whatever that- Well, I mean, he looks like a total s-. He looked great. Zoom in a little bit, he looks like somebody. Tell me that guy, if you wanna talk about, look at that.

• 49:15Tom Ellsworth?

  He's like a Bond villain.

• 49:17Patrick Bet-David?

  He died, he, he's dead if I'm correct. Is he dead now?

• 49:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Or he was dead there, just no one had the guts to tell him.

• 49:22Patrick Bet-David?

  He looks like a white walker from Game of Thrones, but my point is, Pat, I, I go on a bigger umbrella. It's, it's, this is a mission complete. Cause look at how many women right now are like, no, I don't need a man, I don't need nothing, I'm independent. But then once it gets to a certain-

• 49:35Speaker 07

  Just like, oh my god, looking back, I was fooled. It's like the people that would that bought the Russia collusion, bought the Trump as Hitler. It's like now it's now it's too late.

• 49:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but that's the part. So where I'm going with this, Tom, and I'll come to you to wrap this one up. Uh, unless if you have anything else to say. So where I'm going with this is the final one. If if your bad policies destroy people's lives and they eventually figure it out. There is nothing worse than, for example, okay, you guys are gonna hear, I'm gonna make an announcement here probably next week. I have been wearing this same exact shoe for the last two weeks. I've been wearing, I'm not even kidding, I've been wearing the same exact shoe every day. The last two weeks, okay? The same shoe every day for the last two weeks.

• 50:21Speaker 07

  With three-piece suits and everything.

• 50:22Patrick Bet-David?

  And I wear, I'm wearing a suit right, I'm about to go to Vegas, with everything I'm wearing, I wear this shoe, right? Do you know what's worse? Than when you come out with a product? And people don't like it, what are they doing? They don't like the product? When you, when you go to a store, no, worse than bashing, yeah, we'll come back to this, Rob will show it. So but when you go back to it. You buy product. What's the worst thing you want to happen with your product? When you, when you come out with a product?

• 50:48Speaker 07

  Like you as as a product maker?

• 50:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Say you came out with a product.

• 50:51Speaker 07

  Oh, reviews, people, people trashing it.

• 50:53Patrick Bet-David?

  What's worse than reviews?

• 50:55Speaker 07

  No sales.

• 50:55Patrick Bet-David?

  What's worse than sales?

• 50:57Speaker 07

  Uh, like something wrong with.

• 50:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Returns.

• 50:59Speaker 07

  Yeah, people not wanting it.

• 51:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, man, I want a refund.

• 51:02Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 51:02Patrick Bet-David?

  This sucks.

• 51:03Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 51:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Right? I want a refund.

• 51:05Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 51:06Patrick Bet-David?

  We're at the Vault Conference, Vault Ends, for the magical event. Do you know how many tickets we sold to next year's Vault Conference? Four thousand one hundred plus tickets to next year's Vault Conference.

• 51:16Speaker 07

  For one year from.

• 51:17Patrick Bet-David?

  From one year from that, that's gonna be at the MGM Grand Arena.

• 51:19Speaker 07

  Holy moly.

• 51:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, people come. I just came as a general four years ago, then I bought an executive, then I bought five of my guys, then I bought a CEO ticket and came with twenty of my employees. What?

• 51:28Speaker 07

  I'm bringing my team next time.

• 51:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, it's, that's the most beautiful thing. But here's the bad thing about bad products. Is you're seeing so many people asking for refunds of democratic policies. As they age. They're coming back and saying, I want a refund. You destroyed my life. I was a hot 23 year old girl. You convinced me to go around and who cares my body, body count doesn't count. I went through 68 guys. I did all this stuff and now no man wants to marry me and everybody wants to know what my body count is. And I'm a Christian woman and I want to tell them the truth, but at the same time when I do they run. What should I do? What should I do? The only thing I can do is settle for this guy, settle for that guy. What do I do now? Right?

• 52:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Because somebody bought them that sold them that these ideas are okay to buy into. So to me, I do think eventually they have to figure it out because Vinnie, if they don't, it's gonna be a shellacking for 20 years. I think so. It's gonna be a shellacking for 20 years. I really mean it. It's gonna be bad for 20 years. Tom, your thoughts on the story here?

• 52:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I'll, I'll give you a, a, a personal experience I had. Um, you know, I was redoing my kitchen on a house I had. I was single. I hadn't met Kim yet. I would meet Kim like five years later.

• 52:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe not an appropriate story.

• 52:46Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, no, no. But the, um, the contractor, his kind of a foreman was a forewoman. She went out, checked on the guys and everything.

• 52:54Patrick Bet-David?

  She was?

• 52:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, she was like 40 years old.

• 52:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm telling you, don't do this story.

• 52:58Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no. I didn't, I didn't date her. Uh, but I noticed, I noticed the way she talked to the, she was very attractive. And she was out there every, every day coming by the house, making sure that the cabinet makers were on time, all this. She was a good foreman for the owner of the construction company. And one day the owner of the construction company says, hey, um, remember she's coming to my house. She can, she sees the Ferrari I'm restoring with a million parts in the garage, right? She sees where I'm living. She sees that I'm single and she's, I, I believe she was 40. I, I was less than that. I was like 34 at the time. And the guy says to me, Pat, he says, hey, you know, she's not dating anybody.

• 53:40Tom Ellsworth?

  And I said, no, she, I think she, she thinks, and I remember the words, so she thinks you're interesting. And I said, yeah, yeah, that's very nice of you because I just was trying to be nice, come out. I'm not interested because I thought she seemed, here comes the word, bitter. The way she would talk to the guys on the job site and then I would see her out, then talk on her phone. She just came across to me as like a bitter person. So here you have, so guess what? No.

• 54:05Patrick Bet-David?

  She wanted, she wanted the biz.

• 54:08Tom Ellsworth?

  So I look back at this and I just displayed, I said, no, no, thanks. And because I said no.

• 54:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell the real story.

• 54:14Tom Ellsworth?

  She was in like super nice.

• 54:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You told me a different version of how this story went.

• 54:17Tom Ellsworth?

  She's trying even to be more nice.

• 54:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Was she wearing a tool belt?

• 54:19Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 54:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Was she wearing a tool belt, Tom? My mind's telling me no.

• 54:25Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no.

• 54:26Patrick Bet-David?

  My mind is.

• 54:27Tom Ellsworth?

  I saw it. I saw it. And I feel that she was bitter and she was reaching out. She tells her bye.

• 54:33Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think you're telling the full story.

• 54:34Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I had nothing to do with her.

• 54:36Patrick Bet-David?

  She reached out and then, Tom?

• 54:37Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I had nothing to do. And she was super, super. From then on, she was even nicer to me. She checked the plumbing, Tom?

• 54:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I will tell you a similar story.

• 54:44Tom Ellsworth?

  You guys are teasing me. I'm saying I saw it.

• 54:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I just don't want the whole story too, because you told me the story how it went and she upstairs.

• 54:50Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I don't want to. Because, yeah, I don't want to get into the.

• 54:53Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 54:54Tom Ellsworth?

  You know if you get, no, there was no other story to it. Because, but the, the survey is right.

• 55:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 55:00Tom Ellsworth?

  If I had said, yeah, maybe let's, let's go out, let's go out, grab hamburger, you know, just have a casual lunch or something.

• 55:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you run a poll?

• 55:07Tom Ellsworth?

  10 minutes into it.

• 55:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Run a poll.

• 55:08Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what happened in it. 10 minutes into it.

• 55:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Run this poll and I want this to be the poll. How many of you think Tom hooked up with her?

• 55:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 55:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Or no? Run this poll. But let's see what the audience thinks.

• 55:21Tom Ellsworth?

  We can see what they think.

• 55:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see what the audience thinks.

• 55:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Because you know what's gonna happen.

• 55:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Just if you're gonna tell you were a Playboy 28 years ago.

• 55:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Five minutes after you're at lunch, she's gonna be, how do you feel about abortion? I'm gonna say, do you think abortion is okay in extreme cases? What do you mean? Like rape and incest or Chuck Schumer? You know, what do you believe?

• 55:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, people, people are voting, Tom. They don't believe you.

• 55:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, wow. 1,070.

• 55:46Patrick Bet-David?

  68%. These dirty people listen to the podcast. Two thirds.

• 55:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Come on, Bismack Army. I didn't. I'm telling you, I, I saw it though. I was looking.

• 55:57Patrick Bet-David?

  They see you as a Playboy.

• 55:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Words talk, Tom. Numbers are screening.

• 56:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Something to her.

• 56:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Now she looked bitter.

• 56:03Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me tell you.

• 56:03Tom Ellsworth?

  And I was like, not interested. And now I see the survey.

• 56:06Patrick Bet-David?

  She's about to get into the message right now and she's gonna become, she's gonna get a membership and comment. Uh, by the way, if you're out there listening to this, the lady Foreman who was kind of bitter many years ago, you had a chance to get the Bismack.

• 56:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Mm-hmm.

• 56:17Patrick Bet-David?

  And you didn't.

• 56:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh.

• 56:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You had a chance. And if you're there watching this, you can manek Tom. It's been many years.

• 56:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Holler at him.

• 56:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And maybe manek us and give us some intel.

• 56:26Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I got the Bismack babe, but I got these two girls. I wouldn't trade for nothing.

• 56:29Patrick Bet-David?

  We're having a lot of fun here. We're having a lot of fun here and, you know, I will tell you, true story. I'm 28, I've already made a decision to get married. I want a wife, and I'm talking to four girls. And all the four girls, I'm seeing who's gonna be my wife, who's not. One of the girls, I really like. And her and I have spent a lot of time together. Since I was probably 24, 25, we just enjoyed each other's company. Persian girl. And she was really cool. I looked past the fact that I took her to a Billy Graham event that took place in Pasadena in 03. It was a November event. Can you, Rob, can you pull up to fact to check my numbers? Did Billy Graham speak in Pasadena in 2003, November? Yeah, was it like three nights at the Rose Bowl?

• 57:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Four nights at Rose Bowl, talking Rose Bowl. I wanna know if it's 03 or 04. I went three out of the four, 04? What was the day? 04, okay, I took her there. So it was 04, I took her there, and I took a bunch of guys there. And Billy just crushed it, and I'm trying to see what she's gonna be doing. And then fast forward, the day before, it's gotta be like a week before Jen and I start dating. I'm single.

• 57:41Patrick Bet-David?

  And we're at a bar in Pasadena, O-Pass. And she is telling me, Pat, please be honest with me. Do you wanna be with me, cuz I love you, I wanna be with you? But I, you're gonna break my heart if we get together and you leave me, I will be destroyed. Please don't do that to me. And she's crying, telling me this at the bar at 1 o'clock in the morning. And I truly enjoyed this girl's company. Nothing's happened with Jen, Jen and I are not on a date, this is a week before Jen and I start dating. And I'm sitting there and I'm just kinda going through it, I'm like, dude, politically, you're a hardcore John Kerry person. You're unicef. You know, this person, she hated Republicans.

• 58:25Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm not even a political person at this time. I'm just a 28-year-old guy that's just making money, that's, I'm not even talking politics, I'm just trying to do my thing. But I had to in that moment say, and she says, "Only pursue me if you know you're gonna marry me one day, please." And I said, "I know I can't marry you one day, so I can't do this." And I walked away. And she's in tears crying, but says, "Thank you." We hugged, it's the last time I ever spoke to her. I was 28 years old. So then this lady foreman showed up, okay? And you hooked up with her on the way?

• 59:02Tom Ellsworth?

  And 20 years later, we meet each other. And we say, "The foreman, the foreman?"

• 59:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And she said, "Hey, listen, I was working for this one fellow, call him a biz doc, and he never introduced me to his biz doc, and I don't even want to marry you." He's talking about his Ferrari or something. I'm singing like, you know, she's playing the other song, "Jagged Edge, Let's Get Married", I'm like, "Dude, I don't want to get married, I just want to like..."

• 59:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, man.

• 59:29Patrick Bet-David?

  But anyway, so that true story, true story, simply because the kids would be confused when it comes down to the values and principles I want to share. Marriage is already hard enough, when politically you're on opposite sides, it is so challenging. A Christian can marry a Catholic, a Christian can marry a Jew, but they're on the same side politically, they have a higher chance of making it than a Christian marrying a Christian, where one's a socialist and one's a Republican.

• 59:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, no.

• 59:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Policies and ideas got to be on the same page. And anyways, John Kerry, it was all your fault, just so you know that. But what an incredible foreman she was. I mean, you got to respect. All right, let's get to the next story here, let's get to the next story. Pete Hexit wants you to get in shape, folks, and he's like sick of it, okay? No more, you know, eating cheesecake six nights a week and putting on weight and you can only run a two mile in 17 minutes and 58 seconds. He wants you to get in shape, and some people don't like that. Some people want their military veterans to be little fatties going out there to where they get tired after jogging for two minutes, like the people at The View. But Pete wants you to be in shape. Pete wants you to do pull-ups, push-ups, get back into masculine soldiers that we have.

• 1:00:40Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is a speech that he gave, and some people are not happy about this. Go ahead, Rob.

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• 1:01:42Tom Ellsworth?

  It's tiring to look out at combat formations, or really any formation, and see fat troops. Likewise, it's completely unacceptable to see fat generals and admirals in the halls of the Pentagon.

• 1:01:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Ooh, fat generals.

• 1:01:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Reading commands around the country and the world. It's a bad look.

• 1:01:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Just called a fat general.

• 1:01:57Tom Ellsworth?

  It is bad.

• 1:01:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Damn.

• 1:01:58Tom Ellsworth?

  It's not who we are.

• 1:01:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so listen. That's fat shaming to some people, right? He continues, Rob, is this another one?

• 1:02:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I have a bunch of clips. This is him talking about him not wanting his sons to fight with overweight troops.

• 1:02:13Patrick Bet-David?

  He doesn't want that. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:02:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Serving alongside troops who are out of shape, or in combat unit with females who can't meet the same combat arms physical standards as men, or troops who are not fully proficient on their assigned weapons platform or task, or under a leader who was the first, but not the best. Standards must be uniform, gender neutral, and high.

• 1:02:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so he's saying this now. Sunny Houston, Rob, if you can find that from The View, she finds this slightly, you know, inappropriate. Well, why would we want to do this? What's wrong with having fat people in the military? Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:02:55Speaker 02

  I'm actually really befuddled by why.

• 1:02:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Fully befuddled, yeah.

• 1:02:59Speaker 02

  The optics were terrible.

• 1:03:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:00Speaker 02

  Meaning all of our top military brass are all in one place, and we spent $6 million to get them there. That didn't make a lot of sense to me. It also didn't make a lot of sense to me that he was saying that he was going to toughen physical standards and review the anti-hazing policy by sort of implementing a hazing policy. And then also, he said he was going to return to the highest male standard for combat positions because the troops were fat. I just, I don't understand how that was supposed to be an uplifting message for our military. They was referring to Colonel. It was really a bizarre thing. He started talking about woke DEI policies.

• 1:03:45Speaker 02

  By the way, there are no gender quotas in the military. By the way, he fired more than a dozen military leaders, many of them people of color and women. He fired the chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff, General Charles Brown Jr., who is African American. He fired the first woman to command the Navy, Admiral Lisa Franketti. I just, I don't understand the sort of hypocrisy of firing these people, having all these people meet together and then denigrating them. Did you look at it? They're looking at him like he has two heads.

• 1:04:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Vinnie, thoughts? Well, first of all, I absolutely love what he did. It's, by the way, the military, for everybody that knows out there, it's not a, it's not a fashion show. It's not a freaking summer camp. We are in the business of war and war is having trained killers to go and fight and fight the enemy. Okay, and we have to be war ready at every single moment. Okay, but have you seen videos of China and Russia, Brandon? Those people do not play games. Over here, like last, the last four years when Biden was in, I was watching more transgender TikTok videos of guys like, yes, on like, on aircraft carriers and all that stuff. It's like, guys, that's not what we need.

• 1:04:58Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is the prime example of DEI will have you DIE. Okay, I'm sorry, and I'm not sorry because even, did you notice the views, audience? Not a laugh, not an applause, not nothing. I want my soldiers to be, because they're not stupid, Pat. Because at the end of the day, remember Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men? You want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. That's who you need. You need a soldier like that, like Pete Hexey, Pat. Like, listen, with all the stuff that's happening inside of America, we could argue, we could fight, gays this, bathrooms, all that, whatever. When it comes to war and protecting the country, you need a leader like that. You need trained killers to go out there and fight for us when it comes down to it. Thank God, we haven't had anything crazy since, you know, 9/11 Iraq and all that stuff.

• 1:05:43Patrick Bet-David?

  But Pat, that's the attitude. And I'm sorry, those generals, get your ass in shape. He's only having two, how many PT tests a year did you have? Pat, I had one. We had one and we had to take care of ourselves. And if he's taking care of himself and he's a secretary of war, all those other guys need to follow suit. Tell people what a PT test is. A lot of people don't know. It's push-ups, sit-ups, and a two-mile run, and pull-ups. Okay, and you have to do it within a specific amount of time and reps. Because guys, at the end of the day, if God forbid crap hits the fan, we're going to war. You don't want some overweight guys or some people that are like, you know, my feelings, I'm trans. No. You know, the thing with Sunny Houston, right? Yeah. Am I saying her last name correctly? Houston, yeah. Would you say she's pretty? I think she's a good-looking girl. I think she's gorgeous.

• 1:06:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, let's just say it, I'm not gonna, you know, if you pull up her pictures, I think she's beautiful. Yes. Okay, Sunny, do you think you'd get the job that you have if you were 80 pounds heavier? Why not? Do you think you'd get the show, the job that you have, if you were 80 pounds heavier? Well, they gave it to Whoopi. Do you think, no, but no, but Whoopi's actually a lot older, but Whoopi's a very, very, very, very famous individual and actress. She's made it, okay? But do you think Sunny gets the job if she's not that attractive? No. Do you think Sunny woke up one day and looked like that? How hard do you think Sunny works out? Oh, she eats. How hard do you think Sunny goes to the gym and the way she takes care of her body? She talks about it on the show. I'm sorry, Sunny, how hard is it to look like you? So why shouldn't we have that expectation of them?

• 1:07:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Why are you playing a victim for these other guys and feeling sorry for them? How much does Sunny make per year? Can you tap on how much Sunny makes per year? What does Sunny make per year? What's her salary? I'm gonna guess 6 million, let's say. I don't know what it is, but whatever it is, 5 million. Guess what? She deserves it. Because she takes care of her body. Now, do I agree with her politics and all this other stuff? No. Even a guy that doesn't agree with your politics respects the hell out of you working out. And by the way, guess what's never gonna happen? Oh shit, we're under war. Is Sunny Houston ready to go to war? They don't care if you're gonna go to war or not, but we do with the folks in the military. Bingo. And let me tell you, I saw a lot of generals when I was in the military that were out of shape. My Colonel, Lieutenant Colonel Peacock, was in top shape. He's a general now. In top shape, you respected the hell out of that guy.

• 1:07:53Patrick Bet-David?

  It was nothing like chasing a man that was 20 years older than you that was Running thirteen miles, thirteen, a minute, a minute, two miles, you're like, dude. That's when they had the moral authority to punk you a little bit. Hey, this old man's whooping your ass. Don't let this old man, don't let this old man, you know, your left, your right, hey, get your. It was such a great thing to see somebody doing that. So even for Sonny. When you're going out there playing this political bullshit that you're playing. You still. Work your ass off to look like the way you do. They need to work their ass off to make sure we're protected. I don't see any problems with that, that.

• 1:08:29Patrick Bet-David?

  They need to be doing that. I'm so glad Hexad is doing this. There's another clip I want to play. Before I come to Tom and Brandon, Rob, if you want to play the other clip by Pete Hex and then Tom, I'm coming to you. Uh, I think this is the one. Go for it.

• 1:08:39Tom Ellsworth?

  No more identity months. D E I offices. Dudes in dresses.

• 1:08:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Good. Bingo.

• 1:08:46Tom Ellsworth?

  No more climate change worship.

• 1:08:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go.

• 1:08:48Tom Ellsworth?

  More division, distraction, or gender delusions. No more debris.

• 1:08:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Good.

• 1:08:53Tom Ellsworth?

  As I've said before. And we'll say again. We are done with that shit.

• 1:08:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Nice. And by the way, that's exactly how I view the leader of the military to speak.

• 1:09:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Period.

• 1:09:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Like that.

• 1:09:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Thank you.

• 1:09:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You want to see him speak? Like that. You go back and think about in the history books where Ulysses S. Grant. Or some of these guys that maybe would have drank or partied on, but when it came down to war. And Lincoln needed somebody to get the job done. It wasn't McClellan that got the job done. It wasn't a lot of other guys. It was Grant, who was a little bit rough around the edges that was able to go out there and talk to the troops. And they respected the hell out of him. He got the job done. And to me, I'm getting the vibe that he's doing this. And by the way. You know, good for him because at first, you know, I was a little bit like, you're gonna go from TV to this. But I'm loving the way he is going about this, the way he's driving the initiatives. For military, I prefer this. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 1:09:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Well. Common sense is making a comeback because you know what? A poll of American people yesterday. Two to one. Two to one. Believe women should be allowed in combat roles. Two to one. However.

• 1:10:01Tom Ellsworth?

  There's a comma. And 77% felt they must meet, if they must meet, the physical requirements of the job. So two to one says, if you, if your daughter wants to go off in the army and wants to be a Greenbrier, okay, but 77% said she better measure up to the requirement.

• 1:10:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Isn't that interesting?

• 1:10:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And it's lead by example.

• 1:10:27Tom Ellsworth?

  There it is, upside down, only 25% think women should have lower physical requirements. That means 75%, I read 77, think that they have to meet the requirements.

• 1:10:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Common sense is making a comeback.

• 1:10:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and you nailed it. He, look at him, look at how much shape he's in. You have to lead by example. You can't be even a full bird Colonel going, hey, here's the standards that the Secretary of War passed on from me to you, but you're out of shape. No, bro, I want, but like, other countries have to look at us, guys, and be fearful. You know what I mean? During Biden, bro, let me explain something to you. They were laughing at us. They were laughing at us, and now it's serious business.

• 1:11:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Pat, you used to share a story I love. You said there was an older, I don't know if it was a drill sergeant or a Colonel or somebody, that three of you needed an attitude adjustment, and he took you out to the back corner. What happened there? And he was older than you.

• 1:11:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course he was. He was 20 or 15 years older than us. He took us to the back and we were acting like we're gangsters and tough. And he says, oh, really? You guys are gangsters, you're tough, no problem. Gets into a Humvee, we go to the back and takes his rank off and says, okay, who wants to go first? And we're like drill. He wasn't a big guy, he was a 5'8" guy, 5'8" and 5'8", 5'9" guy. And we're big boys. And he says, who wants to go for like drill sergeant? We don't want to hurt you. No, I won't tell anybody.

• 1:11:42Patrick Bet-David?

  He's like, I'm good. He was one of those guys that was a black guy that talked so slow. Oh, God, that's scary. Private Bet David. I need you to drop and give me 20 right now. He spoke like that. Everybody else would scream. This guy would speak to you like dead. It's even scarier. You're dead. And he, but he was so smart about the way he beat us. He only hit us on our stomach, didn't hit us on our face. Brilliant, no bruises. Everything was here. And we were like, we're done. And he brought us back wherever he is right now. Because of that, I have mental issues. Brandon, go for it.

• 1:12:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I'm in, I look incredibly favorably upon fat shaming. I think it's really good, necessary. Yeah, I mean, because I think it's like, like to say fat shaming is bad is like to say smoke shaming is bad. Like to say, if you say it's negative to smoke cigarettes, like would we say that's socially unacceptable? No, it's like objectively unhealthy to be fat. So, you know, in the military, in the police department, in the fire departments, you know, you still, you still see fat people in those departments. And then in the military too, I, I know a lot of guys in the military. And they said in 2018, it went from you, you would discipline people and they call them smoking them out and stuff for things. And to higher ranking people were literally afraid to do that to newer people because they would, could get in trouble and lose their rank

• 1:12:57Speaker 03

  or lose their, their jobs and get kicked out of the military. So literally privates were disrespecting higher ranked people after 2018 because they were no longer able to discipline them because of the way that, like the HR stuff got in the military. They went from the, they called it Shark Week to the Thunder Run. So they, they changed all the hazing stuff. They like took hazing out of the military and that's detrimental.

• 1:13:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, as I was leaving, as the great point, Brandon, as I was leaving the military, 2001, 2002, they started doing forms, like they started giving, like if somebody yelled at you too much, you could write it and like, I'm not even joking. And I'll ask, and I'm like leaving and I'm like, bye. It got soft.

• 1:13:37Tom Ellsworth?

  You know it's bureaucracy if there's a form.

• 1:13:40Speaker 03

  It's like, how are you supposed to instill fear and respect into people if you can't hold them accountable?

• 1:13:43Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I want, I want, I want killers, bro. Like we need, we need killers. We don't need emotional people. I'm with it. I'm with it. I'm with it. So, you know, we'll see, we'll see what's gonna happen. By the way, Rob ran a poll. Rob, can you pull up the last poll you ran? Not about that, Tom. At this point, we all know what happened there. No, no, it was a different poll that Rob ran about being in shape. Look at the percentage of how people voted. Look at the percentage of how people voted.

• 1:14:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's go.

• 1:14:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Seventy-three hundred people voted. Do you think members of the US military should be in fit and in top shape? Ninety-eight percent said yes. And the two percent that didn't. Can I sell you some cheesecake? We have a new entertainment future looks bright. It's faith over fear cheesecake. I got some faith over fear. I'm not afraid that I'm gonna get fat eating this cheesecake. We got it for you, shipping it to you right now for only 29 bucks.

• 1:14:31Tom Ellsworth?

  It's all in how you take the survey. Are you in favor of military being strong enough to kick the enemy's ass so the enemy doesn't kick yours?

• 1:14:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:14:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, I'm in favor of that.

• 1:14:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, exactly. Okay, alright, so let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is, Trump and Netanyahu announce peace plan, folks. US President halls, one of the greatest days in civilization, as he reveals the 20-point roadmap to end Israel Hamas war, and for him to help run Gaza with Tony Blair. Okay? Here they are. Go for it, Rob.

• 1:15:08Speaker 07

  This is a big, big day, a beautiful day, potentially Very beautiful day. One of the great days ever in civilization. Ever. Things that have been going on for hundreds of years and thousands of years. We're gonna

• 1:15:25Speaker 07

  At least we're at a minimum, very, very close, and I think we're beyond very close. And I want to thank Bibi for really getting in there and doing a job. We've worked well together. As we have with many other countries, both of us, with many other countries, which is the only way this whole situation gets solved. And I'm not just talking about Gaza. Gaza's one thing, but we're talking about much beyond Gaza. The whole deal. Everything getting solved. It's called peace in the Middle East.

• 1:15:59Speaker 07

  So today is a historic day for peace, and Prime Minister Netanyahu

• 1:16:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, you want to pull up the 20-point plan?

• 1:16:05Speaker 07

  And I have just concluded an important

• 1:16:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Because in that 20-point plan, just so you guys know, I believe Netanyahu apologizes for the Israel-Katar strike. Okay, deep regret. Expressed deep regret to his Qatari counterpart Monday over September 9th strike aimed at Hamas leaders in Doha, a Jewish state. And, uh, yeah, so that came from him. And then at the same time, so here we go, the Prime Minister, Alan, welcome, these assurances emphasizing Qatar's readiness to continue contributing meaningfully to regional security and stability. Prime Minister Netanyahu expressed commitment to the same. Israel has long expressed annoyance that Qatar plays a key role in the Middle East peace negotiations despite hosting Hamas political leaders. The September 9th attack had targeted top terror figures as they gathered with Qatari mediations.

• 1:16:51Patrick Bet-David?

  For another round of ceasefire discussions, but here's a 20-point plan that they have in place. Gaza will be de-radicalized, terror-free zone that does not pose a threat to its neighbors. Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefits of the people of Gaza who have suffered more than enough. If both sides agree to this proposal, the war will immediately end. Israeli forces will withdraw to the agreed-upon line to prepare for hostage release. During this time, all military operations, including aerial and artillery bombardment, will be suspended, and the battle lines will remain frozen until conditions are met for the complete stage withdrawal. Within 24 hours of Israel publicly accepting this agreement, 72, 72. 72 hours, all hostages, alive and deceased, will be returned. And deceased?

• 1:17:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And deceased, alive or dead. Got it. Once all hostages are released, Israel will release 250 life-sentence prisoners, plus 17 on Gazans who were detained after October 7, 2023, including all women, children, and detained in this context. For all, every Israeli hostage who remains or released, Israel will release the, Rob, I can't read the last part. Will release the something, something? The remains of the 15 deceased Gazans. Okay, let's go to point number six. Uh, once all hostages are returned, Hamas members who commit to peaceful coexistence and decommission, and to decommission, their weapons will be given amnesty. Members of Hamas who wish to leave Gaza will be provided safe passages to receive countries? Receiving countries, wow. Who's gonna do that? Take a terrorist. Egypt and Jordan have said no.

• 1:18:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Upon acceptance of this agreement, full aid will be immediately sent into Gaza Strip. At a minimum, eight quantities will be consistent with what was included in January 192025 Agreement regarding humanitarian aid, including rehabilitation of infrastructure, water, electricity, and sewage. Entry of distribution and aid in the Gaza Strip will proceed without interference from the two parties through the United Nations and its agencies. And read the, Kressen, Rob, go to the next one. Okay, opening the Rafa. Gaza will be governed under the temporary transitional governance of Technocratic? Interesting. A political Palestinian committee responsible for delivering

• 1:19:03Patrick Bet-David?

  the day-to-day running of all public services and municipalities of the people of Gaza. Huh, okay.

• 1:19:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Palestinian international oversight supervision and a new international transitional body, the Board of Peace, which will be headed and chaired by President Donald J. Trump. Wow. With other members and head of state announced, including former Prime Minister Tony Blair. This body will set the framework and handle the funding for the redevelopment of Gaza until such a time as the Palestinian Authority has completed its reform program. Ten, a Trump economic development plan to rebuild and energize Gaza will be created by governing a panel of experts who have helped birth some of the thriving modern miracles cities in the Middle East. Go to the next one, Rob. Eleven. A special economic zone will be established with preferred tariff and access rates to be

• 1:19:52Patrick Bet-David?

  negotiated with participating countries. No one will be forced to leave Gaza and those who wish to leave will be free to do so and free to return. Good. We will encourage people to stay and offer them the opportunity to build a better Gaza. Hamas and other factions agree to not have any role in the governance of Gaza directly or indirectly. That's big. In or any form, if they'll be able to pull that off. All military, terror and offensive infrastructure, including tunnels and weapon production facilities, will be destroyed, not rebuilt. Huh. A guarantee will be provided by regional partners to ensure that Hamas and the factions comply with their obligations. And Rob, go a little bit. And the new Gaza, can't see the new Gaza poses no threat to its neighbors or its people. Okay, let's go to fifteen. Do you have fifteen, sixteen, or?

• 1:20:37Tom Ellsworth?

  I do. I have sixteen through.

• 1:20:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Twenty?

• 1:20:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 1:20:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Boom, boom. We're almost there, so let's just wrap it. There you go. Israel will not comply or annex Gaza.

• 1:20:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Occupy.

• 1:20:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Will not occupy or annex Gaza. As the ISF establishes control and stability, the Israel Defense Force will withdraw based on standards, milestones and timeframes linked to demilitarization.

• 1:21:01Patrick Bet-David?

  That will be agreed upon and then go to seventeen and event Hamas rejects or delays this proposal the above including the scaled up aid operation will proceed in the terror area free areas handed over from IDF to the ISF and interfaith dialogue process will be established based on the values of tolerance and peaceful coexistence to try and change mindsets and narratives of Palestinians and Israelis by emphasizing the benefits that can be deprived from peace while Gaza redevelopment and when the PA reform program is faithfully carried out the conditions may finally be in place for credible pathway to Palestinian sub determination and statehood and last but not least the US will establish a dialogue between Israel and Palestinians to agree upon a political horizon for peaceful and prosperous coexistence Brandon your thoughts on this?

• 1:21:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, so it's great if that's true. I think that unfortunately the reason that this is being talked about right now is because they're gearing up to go back after Iran just based off Rob I sent you an article that US refueling tankers are being sent over to the Middle East in heavy numbers and that's the it's the biggest amount of activity since the last attack in Iran. So yeah, I would love to see this plan be carried out like a lot of the big things is that they're not going to be forcing them to leave Gaza because that'd be messy that they're not gonna that they're not gonna let Hamas keep running the country because there was a lot of assistance to let Hamas run the country instead of the Palestinian authorities. So you know, I think all those things are good points necessary

• 1:22:28Speaker 03

  to you know, create the best situation that's possible there. But I am concerned that this is probably gearing up to let attention go back to Iran.

• 1:22:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, what do you think about some explosion?

• 1:22:40Tom Ellsworth?

  All I was watching was your drink fizzing up. But I mean, on paper, it looks great. But at the end of the day, what are we talking about from a military standpoint? It's Hamas is in the tunnels with the hostages. Okay, like that's the main goal. What operation? I still don't believe because America, I don't know how Israel does it. America doesn't negotiate with terrorists. Period. End of story. We don't do it. So this situation is getting back these how many hostages are left? You guys, is there a number?

• 1:23:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Fifty-two. What was the number? I may be wrong.

• 1:23:10Tom Ellsworth?

  It's in that ballpark. It's in that ballpark. But at the end of the day, what are we talking about? We are talking about forty-eight hostages. Forty-eight left. And I literally pray for them every single day. For anybody that's held hostage there. But we have to be realistic. These people have been probably tortured for what's been two years right now.

• 1:23:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:27Tom Ellsworth?

  The end goal is, like, this should have been done. Everything that's talking about that with all these strikes and all the everything, Brandon, should have been done immediately at October 7th. We've been dragging this on for a long time. I don't see Hamas coming to the table and going, "Yeah, okay, you can't trust them." Okay, you can't trust terrorists. So I think it's been dragged on for way too long. Again, all this looks good on paper, but at the end of the day, is Hamas going to agree with a twenty-point plan?

• 1:23:56Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me ask you, if Hamas rejects... But hear me out for a second. Israel is agreeing to this.

• 1:24:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 1:24:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay? And remember, I don't think Israel wants this.

• 1:24:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 1:24:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay? But they're agreeing to this. So now if Hamas is rejecting this deal, and you're seeing the leader of Hamas, "No, we're okay. Every once in a while, there's a price for freedom and all this other stuff." Who does the onus fall on?

• 1:24:21Tom Ellsworth?

  It's gonna be on Hamas. Guess what, then? And I hate, and I just said that I pray for them. I'm gonna pray for them even more, cuz they're like, they're gonna kill everybody. And guess what? To make an omelet, sometimes you're gonna break a couple of eggs. It's not gonna be good for them. It's not gonna be good, cuz that's the end game. Cuz even if they try to negotiate, we're talking about Hamas, Tom. We're talking about Hamas.

• 1:24:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you see the interview that the Hamas leader did with CNN? Rob, can you pull that up? Did you see what he had to say? Okay. So the leader of Hamas did an interview with CNN. Rob, I just texted it to you. If you can go halfway through, the interviewer pushes the leader of Hamas, you just got the text, and says, "Are you willing to do it at the cost of..." Are you willing to... Eventually, it's kinda like that moment of, "I want the truth. You can't handle the truth." And then eventually, he says it.

• 1:25:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 1:25:12Patrick Bet-David?

  He says it.

• 1:25:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Says it out loud.

• 1:25:14Patrick Bet-David?

  And if you can go halfway, Rob, this is the leader of Hamas, sitting down with CNN. Go to about a minute... Minute forty mark, minute thirty mark, right there. Brutal, keep going, atrocity. Does he have gunpowder on his forehead?

• 1:25:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, sir, okay, okay, go back right there, right there, go back one more second. Beautiful, go for it, right, right there.

• 1:25:40Speaker 06

  Change now.

• 1:25:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Sir, you were just saying that as a result of October 7th, you are seeing millions of people marching in the streets, you are seeing countries recognize Palestine as a state, you are seeing legitimacy for your people. And I'm asking you whether the price that Palestinian people have paid so far was worth it.

• 1:25:56Speaker 06

  I know the price is so high. But I'm asking again, what is the, what is the option? What is, what is the, what is the, the, the, the option lifted to Palestine? You know what, we waited for a peaceful process, for a peaceful means, since nineteen, nineteen ninety-three, since Oslo Agreement, till now, but I think we got a big.

• 1:26:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Let me, let me show you the, the words of your people, okay? These are people in Gaza, and I want you to hear, because your own people in Gaza say that you do have responsibility for the situation.

• 1:26:27Patrick Bet-David?

  He doesn't love to play with swift, watch this.

• 1:26:39Tom Ellsworth?

  This is not it, there's, there's more.

• 1:26:41Speaker 06

  I have seen this video, yes, yes.

• 1:26:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Sir, there is more.

• 1:26:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Now Hamas knows who that guy is.

• 1:26:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I would like you to, there are three people here, I would like you to hear their voices.

• 1:26:46Speaker 06

  I know people are suffering, there are some people blame Hamas.

• 1:26:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Why will you not listen to the voices of Palestinian people in Gaza?

• 1:26:52Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, I know, this is, but, look, this is not the whole story. I know because, this is because of the Israeli crimes in the, in the Gaza Strip.

• 1:27:00Tom Ellsworth?

  It seems, it seems that you.

• 1:27:03Patrick Bet-David?

  See what happens right here. So this is the part where when you go back and forth, and you watch who is willing, who is not, who started this one, Hamas started this one. Israel's coming back and saying, we're gonna destroy you. And then now Israel's agreeing to pump the brakes, because you're right. And even, you know, I know something's about to happen in Iran. Something's going on over there on the other side. Tom, how do you process this yourself?

• 1:27:27Tom Ellsworth?

  So, I could only get through like the first five points. And then I sat back and said, okay, how the hell are they gonna remove Hamas? How is it going to be de-radicalized? And.

• 1:27:43Patrick Bet-David?

  If we have a place there, Tom, how did, how did we, how did Trump get rid of ISIS?

• 1:27:49Tom Ellsworth?

  He just killed every, he killed everybody.

• 1:27:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I want you to think about this stuff.

• 1:27:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Because.

• 1:27:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Bonk, bonk, bonk.

• 1:27:55Patrick Bet-David?

  How did Trump get rid of ISIS? What, what happened to ISIS? The, the only thing you hear about right now is ISIS in certain factions of it in Nigeria, what they're doing and killing the 125 pastors or.

• 1:28:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Another faction you hear in Canada that burned down 112 different churches in Canada, mainly Catholic churches. You're hearing about that, right? But if US is involved, you don't think he's shivering right now?

• 1:28:19Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I think so, but the other thing I got to in the, those first five points was, and 250 healthy life sentenced prisoners. How did those people end up in Israeli prisons as life sentences? They're killers and they killed and they committed acts of terrorism. So you're going to take 250 guys at a prison.

• 1:28:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Terrorists, terrorists.

• 1:28:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Now, let me give you a copy of this. This is 20 point plan and point four and five is you're not going to be radical anymore, but we're letting you go back over here.

• 1:28:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:28:51Tom Ellsworth?

  So I, I hope that something comes out of this, but I clearly see it's just like you pointed out in that clip right there, that there are, the citizens want this. So the citizens are going to have to hold part of the, um, it's hard to say this, but the citizens are actually trying to hold some of the Hamas leadership to accountability. These are people showing their faces in front of TV cameras and are saying things. They're disconnected from reality and what I'm facing here. And I hope for those citizens that they get Gaza back so they can live and prosper with their families. I hope they're innocent, but I look at taking 250 terrorists, you know, in prison on life

• 1:29:33Tom Ellsworth?

  sentences and you're making a hostage trade with them and you're going to de-radicalize it. As long as we're involved, you know, but man, I, I worry about that. I worry about that there's still a group there.

• 1:29:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Fully with you. I'm fully with you. Go for it, Brandon.

• 1:29:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, so this is a map of ISIS activity from 2015 and 2019. Like you said, uh, we completely wiped it out in the course of a couple of years. And I wonder though, if that's because we had bases in that area and maybe it was easier to do because of that. I don't, I don't know if it's.

• 1:30:01Patrick Bet-David?

  But that, that's, that's where I'm going though. What I'm, what I'm trying to say is notice what he said.

• 1:30:05Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 1:30:06Patrick Bet-David?

  It's going to be overseen by a board led by who? Donald J. Trump. So guess what? If you cross him. You're crossing him, he's gonna do to you what he did twice his.

• 1:30:19Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:30:19Patrick Bet-David?

  So to me, an element of him finally being involved. And people sitting there saying, okay, if this is gonna be the case, now what are we gonna be doing? Now, does this mean the attention's gonna go from here to Iran? Maybe. You know, if all of a sudden, we see stuff that's going on with Iran right now escalate very, very quickly. Also, don't be surprised, because I don't think they're done there. I don't think that's a...

• 1:30:47Speaker 03

  We got a lot of these things going on at once, too, because I mean, like, this can't, we don't want this to be like an Iraq 2.0, where we don't have leadership there, like, if they take out Hamas. Right, like, if they take out Hamas, are they gonna put a puppet leader in, because that's not really stable?

• 1:31:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, well, I mean, what a lot of people on the inside are saying, they would like this to lead to an election where Iranians can actually vote for who they want. Now, will that happen? Will they allow that to happen? Who knows? Whether they'll allow that to happen or not? And who is gonna take his place over? Who is that going to be? You know, who are they gonna have in that place? So, Rob, what is this here?

• 1:31:23Tom Ellsworth?

  This is Netanyahu, just last week at the UN, where he talked about the Iranian people getting their freedom.

• 1:31:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, right, go for it.

• 1:31:29Speaker 06

  The long-suffering Iranian people will regain their freedom. They will make Iran great again. And our two ancient peoples, our two ancient peoples, the people of Israel and the people of Iran, will restore a friendship that will benefit the entire world.

• 1:31:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so now, you know, obviously, Iranian people are sick of what's going on there. Can Israel play a big role in that? I think it can. Is US gonna need to get involved for the Iran regime to fall? No question. It's not gonna happen without it. Israel cannot do without US. So this is why, what are the chances you think that Netanyahu apologized to Qatar? That Trump said, "You better apologize, or else, because you're ruining my relationship with other dealings that I'm doing." What are the chances?

• 1:32:23Speaker 03

  I'm over 90.

• 1:32:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm 100%. I'm 100% with this. And I mean 100%, I mean, of course, nobody knows for a fact, but I'm up there to the point where I know he's gonna say, hey, you better, you better do this, or else, I'm not gonna defend you. Why are you doing something like, you know that whole call that everybody talks about? The shouting match call that happened with Trump screaming at Netanyahu? How much you think that happened? Over ninety again. Yeah, same place as well. Pretty sure it happened. So again, the main common denominator of the trust goes to who? To one guy. If the one guy is involved, I'm more comfortable of how these things could be executed. If he's not involved, you know, and, and by the way, flip the story. Put Kamala being that one person, who fears Hamas fears Kamala? No. Will Hamas feel Biden, fear Biden?

• 1:33:09Patrick Bet-David?

  No. They're, they're sitting there saying, thank God, you know, it's Biden or Kamala. This is the worst thing that ever happened to Russia, to China, to Iran, to everybody that this guy is now in. Nobody wants this guy to be in because whatever he says has to go and he's getting a lot of stuff done. So we'll see what happened here. Let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is Charlie Javis. Folks, after this story, to all the single men watching this, we have some extremely life-changing advice for you. We'll get to that. But first, Charlie Javis. Get seven years for defrauding JP Morgan Chase. Seven years. While he's getting this, Rob, go ahead and play this clip first and then we'll go through the whole thing.

• 1:33:51Speaker 02

  She was once a star CEO on the Forbes thirty under thirty list. But now a judge has sentenced this startup founder turned fraudster to seven years in prison after being convicted of duping a major investment bank out of a staggering one hundred and seventy-five million dollars. We started Frank with really thinking about how are we the ally for the student and the family? Charlie Javies sold her startup company called Frank to JP Morgan Chase back in twenty twenty-one. At the time, she claimed her company, which helped streamline the financial aid process for low-income college students, had millions of users. But after the deal went through, JP Morgan discovered that number was close to just three hundred thousand and Javies had fabricated most of the user information.

• 1:34:36Speaker 02

  Javies, now thirty-three, was convicted in March. Prosecutors requesting a twelve-year prison sentence, but her lawyer asking for lenience, dismissing comparisons between Javies and disgraced entrepreneur Elizabeth Holmes, claiming that Javies's company was real, unlike Holmes's company Theranos, which sold a fake blood testing product. Javies's lawyer also arguing the bank shouldered some responsibility, saying it was a twenty-eight-year-old versus three hundred investment bankers from the largest bank in the world, and claiming they rushed the acquisition. The judge agreeing the bankers do shoulder some blame, but adding the sentencing hearing was about punishing Javies's conduct.

• 1:35:14Speaker 03

  Not JP Morgan stupidity. Present sentence, the judge also ordering Javies to pay nearly 300 million dollars in restitution. Telling her, I don't think you'll be committing other crimes, but others have to be deterred.

• 1:35:28Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. And Javies remains free.

• 1:35:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I'll tell you, this is, this is the dark side of startups. And there's so many people that come to the vault, they're honest people just trying to build a business. And then there are people that get out there that say fake it till you make it, you know? Put together, you know, you don't know if it's going to work, but you know what? You did, it's a, it's the venture capitalist money. I've heard young people and entrepreneurs openly say that there are things in their deck that weren't accurate and stuff. And this is what happens. This is, that's upstream. This is downstream. Downstream, you end up in a pond of your own deceit. And then every now and then somebody speaks up. And this was JP Morgan.

• 1:36:13Tom Ellsworth?

  And so, yeah, the, the whole defense here about, oh, JP Morgan's and the, the comment by the commentator there. I'll read out the exact words of the lawyer. It says, and it was Judge Hellerstein. So Judge Hellerstein, we would never ask you to punish JP Morgan stupidity, but we submit that it's a relevant factor. In other words, our clients are criminal, but the victim was too stupid. That's like saying that if, that if, that if your kid stole the lunch money from an autistic kid, that your kid shouldn't be punished because the autistic kid was too dumb. No, this is, this shows her hubris.

• 1:36:55Tom Ellsworth?

  And I'm glad this has happened because this is a cautionary tale. There are good entrepreneurs out there that are trying to get investment, that are trying to get their companies going. And then there's these people out here that just sell it like this. And by the way, Adam Newman, the guy from WeWork, that defrauded SoftBank? I'm still wondering why he didn't end up floating in the Hudson because he defrauded some very big international people of $2 billion with the B dollars.

• 1:37:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Using figurative speech.

• 1:37:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Figurative speech, yeah, he's, he's shocked. He wasn't swimming. No, I'm saying, yeah, well, no, no, no, I'm not wishing death on him. I'm saying, but when you defraud some big people, sometimes big people play big people games and it's not fun. Oh, yeah. So.

• 1:37:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Sometimes these big people show up with like big female form and type. He's like, like.

• 1:37:40Tom Ellsworth?

  But I think, but this is, this is a cautionary tale and I'm glad to see it. And if she's sitting in the prison courtyard playing checkers with Elizabeth Holmes, well, guess what? Good for you. Go away for seven years and think about it.

• 1:37:53Patrick Bet-David?

  You just pissed Tom off. Charlie, what is wrong with you? We were having a good conversation. You pissed Tom off. Brandon, what do you have to say about this?

• 1:38:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, I might surprise you guys here. So this actually annoys me that, like, I get she deserves what happened here, but nothing happened to the banks in 2008 when they stole money from people. They defrauded the entire country with bad mortgages and then nothing happened to them. Not only did nothing happen to them, but they were given money by the government with the promise of, okay, yeah, we'll stimulate the economy with the money they give us.

• 1:38:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Hell, no.

• 1:38:23Speaker 03

  And they paid themselves bonuses. So like, you know, if anybody watched The Big Short, there's only one random guy who went to jail for that.

• 1:38:30Tom Ellsworth?

  The guy from Deutsche Bank, 32 year old guy from Deutsche because he lied.

• 1:38:34Speaker 03

  Yeah. You know, so it's ridiculous. I mean, I get, yeah, she definitely.

• 1:38:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not alone.

• 1:38:40Speaker 03

  She definitely deserves to go to jail, but I think a lot of people should have went to jail for what happened in 2008.

• 1:38:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you are.

• 1:38:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I absolutely agree with that too.

• 1:38:48Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. So listen, to all the single folks, you know, if you've got kids, you may want to listen to this. So there's a man, so I'm calling philosopher, modern day Aristotle, his name is Judge Grady from Polk County, Rob.

• 1:38:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Polk.

• 1:38:59Patrick Bet-David?

  He wants to share something with you guys and it's a very sentimental, but accurate assessment of what could happen if you go get a prostitute in Polk County and some of the places in America. And, and it's so bad and so true that his partner behind him, one of his direct reports can't even hold himself together, folks. But the level of wisdom is on a whole different level. So whatever you're doing, if you're driving and listen to the podcast, just please keep your eyes on the road or pull over because this is dangerous stuff. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:39:30Tom Ellsworth?

  So this is Polk, not Polk County, right?

• 1:39:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, do that one more time. Do that one more time. Make fun of my accent one more time. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:39:38Speaker 06

  There's things in life you just can't believe. So you order up a prostitute, right?

• 1:39:45Speaker 06

  This prostitute lives with his mother, by the way. He's got a massive criminal history.

• 1:39:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause, pause real quick. Notice what she said. This prostitute lives with his mother.

• 1:39:57Tom Ellsworth?

  He's a hooker.

• 1:39:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, to just, just continue.

• 1:39:59Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm so confused.

• 1:39:59Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a very important detail. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:40:01Speaker 06

  Year criminal history with 31 criminal charges. So you order up a prostitute.

• 1:40:08Speaker 06

  And that's what you think you're getting.

• 1:40:11Speaker 06

  Now, when you look at that, you go, wow, that's pretty rough, but you know, you can put it in a storm.

• 1:40:19Speaker 06

  And then the next morning, when you wake up.

• 1:40:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:40:22Speaker 06

  You find out this is who it really is.

• 1:40:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:40:26Speaker 06

  Yeah. We call that coyote ugly. You see, he's laying on your arm in bed.

• 1:40:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Is the guy behind him?

• 1:40:35Speaker 06

  You go, where was rough last night? But I've sobered up.

• 1:40:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, my.

• 1:40:40Speaker 06

  I think I'll just chew my arm off and ease away so I don't disturb him or wake him up. All right, so you think you're buying this, you're getting this, he's got 31 criminal charges. And heck, if you're lucky, he doesn't kill you overnight.

• 1:40:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, look, it's called wisdom, right? You have to know, you're waking up, what'd he say, you're biting off your arm?

• 1:41:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Chewing off your arm.

• 1:41:04Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about this advice, Vinny?

• 1:41:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I, first of all, I had no, I thought it was a female. I don't even know where this was going. But my question is, so is that, was that guy robbing people? Or was he actually having sex with the, the guy?

• 1:41:19Speaker 03

  Sounds like he was pretending to be a girl.

• 1:41:20Tom Ellsworth?

  He's pretending to be a girl, and then what was he, like, is he hooking up with gay men? I'm so confused. He was hanging out.

• 1:41:26Patrick Bet-David?

  The fact that you're interested in what he does.

• 1:41:29Tom Ellsworth?

  What the hell is going on?

• 1:41:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Tells me why you have such a creative, wonderful comedic mind.

• 1:41:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Are you ready for this?

• 1:41:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I appreciate it.

• 1:41:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Because my brain is, my brain is going this, he's having a press conference where people complaining, like, did they want their money back? Was it buyer's remorse? Because it looks like, first of all, if that shows up and that's

• 1:41:45Speaker 06

  That's what you're actually into, to each his own, but then how do you not tell that it's a, it's a dude? Like how, I'm so confused right now.

• 1:41:53Patrick Bet-David?

  It's midnight, you've had eight years.

• 1:41:55Tom Ellsworth?

  You saw The Crying Game.

• 1:41:56Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:41:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Surprise.

• 1:41:58Speaker 06

  Yeah, but like, what's he trying to say? Don't, like, know what you're buying? Cause the prostitution part doesn't even look like it's the problem. It's the fact that the guy's acting like he's a girl. That's the problem.

• 1:42:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Brandon, what do you think about this? Give us your expertise here.

• 1:42:15Speaker 03

  I gotta admit, I'm an amateur in that field, so I can't give any expertise, but yeah, no, it's scary. It's a cautionary tale, I guess he's using there, but I don't know. Should prostitution be legalized? Like, you know, so we don't get up, so people know what they're getting at least? I don't know, that's a question as old as time.

• 1:42:31Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, it's the oldest profession, but I'm not a fan.

• 1:42:34Speaker 03

  It's like alcohol, you know, creates a whole big criminal industry because of the fact that it's illegal, but also it's kind of debaucherous for society if it is legal. So, you know, that's a kind of a deeper question.

• 1:42:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's, listen, one of my friends, his dream was to go to Brazil, to go to, what is it called? Not the festival, what did they carnival?

• 1:42:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Carnival in Rio.

• 1:42:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So he went to carnival. He saved up all this money for two years to go to the carnival. And he goes, comes back, has the time of his life, except for one night.

• 1:43:00Speaker 06

  Uh oh.

• 1:43:02Patrick Bet-David?

  He meets this girl, drop dead gorgeous, and he can't believe how hot she is. They're dancing, they're doing their thing and all this other stuff, and he's grinding all this and grind, baby, grind with me, relax. Like all that stuff, right? And then she returns the favor.

• 1:43:21Speaker 03

  Oh boy.

• 1:43:22Patrick Bet-David?

  To him.

• 1:43:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm like, first of all, why are you letting her cry? It's like I had one too many drinks. He says, when she did, I learned very quickly I had to run. It's like, it's like when, when Charles Barkley, have you ever heard Charles Barkley say, listen, man, when you're playing too much defense, I can feel your, you know, when I can feel your thing, it's a little too much defense.

• 1:43:49Patrick Bet-David?

  So, I don't know, you just better gotta be careful, folks. You know, Barclays Wisdom versus a Polk County, Tom. Let me get it correctly for you, so you're happy about it. So anyways, this is just funny, man. Sometime when this guy speaks, imagine him being your father or your grandfather, and he's telling you, trying to teach you a lesson. Imagine you can write a book. So what lessons did your dad teach you? Let me do it. One time, I got caught smoking this. Here's what he did to me. Took me home, he did this, he did that. Just seems like the type of guy I like. He's got a sense of humor.

• 1:44:19Tom Ellsworth?

  He's like Kennedy in Congress with his funness.

• 1:44:21Patrick Bet-David?

  He's got a sense of humor.

• 1:44:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Back at the peak, Dr. Phil used to do this. At the peak of his show.

• 1:44:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, so you did this, then this, then this, and you thought that was a good idea.

• 1:44:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Remember those scenes? And the guys, oh yeah. Yeah. I don't know on what planet that's a good idea, or even have a good idea.

• 1:44:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:40Tom Ellsworth?

  I used to love seeing Dr. Phil tear people up for that.

• 1:44:43Patrick Bet-David?

  He's still doing it, yeah. Yeah, so let's go to the next one here. I'm gonna get to the next story. A couple more stories before we wrap up. Don Lemon is talking to Ilhan Omar, okay? A person whom Trump is wanting to deport back to her country. He even asked the leader of Somalia if they would take her back, like a refund. And they're having that kind of a conversation. But she had some things to say. Was she not, Rob, being interviewed by Don Lemon, Ilhan? Yep. And he somehow bumps into her and is interviewing her. But go ahead, Rob, let's see what happens here. Go ahead.

• 1:45:21Speaker 02

  I have nothing to apologize for. You know, it is, it is a tragedy that Charlie Kirk was killed in that way. I feel for his widow and his children. They will have to live with that for the rest of their lives. But there is no legacy to honor. It was a legacy filled with bigotry, hatred, and white supremacy. And... As a black woman and as a Muslim in this country, I refuse for, I refuse to join the chorus that changes the history of what is on the record from this man. And so, you know, Nancy Mace, the president, like, whatever, these crazy people can do whatever they want to do.

• 1:46:05Speaker 02

  But I am not going to be bullied into complacency, into, you know, dishonoring who I am and what I stand for, just to...

• 1:46:18Patrick Bet-David?

  How long can you listen to her?

• 1:46:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, but, but you know, do you notice this, guys? Do you notice the left, no security, nobody's, they're just, they know that nobody wants to do anything to them because we're, we're the, the, the normal side. But they're out there spitting this freaking poison. The fact that she's saying white supremacy and all this stuff, not one, she cannot point one thing that Charlie said that was about racism or white supremacy or another. These are just BS talking points and she's like disgracing his freaking legacy and it's disgusting. I wonder what that would have been like if she was walking with Van Jones. Oh, oh, it would have been, it would have been a whole different conversation. I think he would have shut it down and corrected it.

• 1:46:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You think he would have? You think Van Jones would have corrected and Don Lemon wouldn't have?

• 1:46:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I think Van Jones would have stepped further than...

• 1:47:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't, don't, don't forget, Tom, like, the day before Trump, uh, uh, uh, Charlie got killed, don't forget what Van Jones said about Charlie that went viral. Do you remember that clip or not?

• 1:47:12Tom Ellsworth?

  He was talking crap about him.

• 1:47:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you remember that? Exactly a day or two, Rob, if you got that, uh, uh, Van, not Vance, yeah, Van, yeah, exactly, there you go, so...

• 1:47:21Tom Ellsworth?

  They were, as Van Jones said, we were beefing hard in the days before. Oh, he actually went on video though, Tommy, he said something about it.

• 1:47:28Patrick Bet-David?

  He said something very, very direct.

• 1:47:30Tom Ellsworth?

  It was on, on CNN?

• 1:47:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, he, he put the onus on Charlie. He put the onus on Charlie and this was like literally...

• 1:47:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, was it about the, oh, it was about the, the, the, the guy stabbing on the, on the train, I think. He was making some comment.

• 1:47:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, this is one, go ahead and play this clip. I don't know why that man did what he did. And for Charlie Kirk to say...

• 1:47:50Speaker 06

  We know he did it because she's white when there's no evidence of that.

• 1:47:53Tom Ellsworth?

  He said I got that white girl.

• 1:47:55Speaker 06

  It's just pure race mongering, hate mongering.

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• 1:49:01Tom Ellsworth?

  I got that white girl. Yeah. Blood dripping everywhere.

• 1:49:08Speaker 06

  We don't know.

• 1:49:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yes, we did.

• 1:49:09Patrick Bet-David?

  So the point is, look, I give everybody grace that, you know, you make mistakes, but the day before that happened, that's a pretty direct thing to say. So going back to Don Lemon, right? Going back to Don Lemon. Don Lemon is continuing here. Rob, if you have this clip, go ahead and play the clip. Here's Don Lemon. Folks, if you're a white man, he thinks it's all your fault. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:49:34Speaker 06

  Men who look like you, men who vote like you, and men who sound like you. White men, something is broken. Something is cracked deep inside when so many of you believe the answer to fear, to loss, to change is violence.

• 1:50:01Speaker 06

  Are you listening to me? I hope I'm saying it loud enough for the people in the back.

• 1:50:08Patrick Bet-David?

  He was talking to you. What do you have to say?

• 1:50:11Speaker 03

  I just had an epiphany. I think he's been watching Nick Fuentes because he's kind of copying Nick Fuentes, but in the reverse way. Nick Fuentes says that about black people a lot in the same tone, tries to be the same provocative way. I think he's copying Nick Fuentes.

• 1:50:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Very interesting.

• 1:50:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's what I got from him.

• 1:50:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting observation.

• 1:50:26Speaker 03

  Because he's obviously desperately trying to get views. He's doing the man on the street. He's doing his podcast in his living room like a teenager. So, I mean, I think he's trying to try things out. He sees Fuentes picking up some momentum and X. I think he's copying Fuentes.

• 1:50:37Patrick Bet-David?

  How much you think he watches Fuentes?

• 1:50:39Speaker 03

  Oh, I think he watches all the big people. You know, like, I think if somebody's doing well on social media, I think he's studying them and obsessively trying to model them.

• 1:50:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I actually agree with you. I think that's a very, very good observation. But the reality of it is, to say it's the white man's fault, Tom, what do you have to say about that?

• 1:50:54Tom Ellsworth?

  No, they need a victim and they have to be the victim. And so, everyone else has to be bad to be the victim. So, someone else is a victim. You need a protagonist. You need an enemy. And when people are moving, and here we go again, blacks, Hispanics, and youth are moving toward the center and voting this way, these people become apoplectic. And when I say these people, I mean, these media people, Rachel Maddow, regardless of their color, whether it's Van Jones and Don Lemon, or it's Jake Tapper, it's not about race. It's not about, you know, sexual orientation, anything.

• 1:51:36Tom Ellsworth?

  They can't handle what's happening and so they need there to be an enemy. And the enemy, white privilege and white people are broken, is so easy for them. But it's cheap and it's wrong and they know it's wrong. And that's, and deep down inside, they know that it's hollow. But they've got no other, there's no other bullet in the gun. Not to use a violent metaphor, but there's no other, like, what else do you pull off the shelf? It's not working. Like, first of all, what about his? White husband who's probably in the other room doing dishes like I no, no, no, I'm dead serious. How does he feel about it? Okay. And just really fast going back to. He got a hunky hubby. Yeah, she's yeah, he does. And so does Ilhan Omar.

• 1:52:22Tom Ellsworth?

  All these problems are white people. She said in the past, our country should be more fearful. Bro, get it? Yeah, she more fearful of white men because they're actually causing most of the deaths in this country. This is her. Um, if fear was the driving force, we should be profiling, monitoring, creating policies to fight the radicalization of white men. And Don Lemon, like how disgusting and lazy and dangerous it is what he's saying. And Tom, what is your mug? Oh, your mug right there. Words talk, numbers scream. Can you imagine? If a white person anyway, and look at the numbers right here, if a white person sat in front of a camera, Pat, and just said the actual facts and said that black men are about 6% of the US population. FBI data shows that they're responsible for nearly half, 50% of the murders in this country.

• 1:53:06Tom Ellsworth?

  What would the world say? What would the world say? Don Lemon knows exactly what the hell he's doing. He's trying to be relevant. The fact that they kicked him out of a freaking studio. Now he's a man on the street, talking to other psychotic people like Ilhan Omar tells you everything that you need to know. But think about this, Pat, you showed this video for a long time ago and it stuck with me. What happened to the old Don Lemon? Remember that video that we have? An old Don Lemon that was addressing the African American community. Oh, how about lift your pants up? How about be respectful? You want to see this? Look, play this, Rob.

• 1:53:36Speaker 06

  Because black people, if you really want to fix the problem.

• 1:53:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh oh.

• 1:53:40Speaker 06

  Here's just five things that you should think about doing. Here's number five, pull up your pants. Number four now is the N word. I hosted a special on the N word, suggesting that black people stop using it. And that entertainers stop deluding yourselves or themselves and others that you're somehow taking the word back.

• 1:53:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh man.

• 1:53:59Speaker 06

  Now, number three, respect where you live. Start small by not dropping trash, littering in your own communities. I've lived in several predominantly white neighborhoods in my life.

• 1:54:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh oh.

• 1:54:10Speaker 06

  I rarely, if ever witnessed people littering. I live in Harlem now. It's an historically black neighborhood. Every single day I see adults and children dropping their trash on the ground when a. garbage can is just feet away. Number two, finish school. You want to break the cycle of poverty? Stop telling kids are acting white because they go to school or they speak proper English. Number one, and probably the most important, just because you can have a baby, it doesn't mean you should, especially without planning for one or getting married first. More than 72% of children in the Africa-

• 1:54:45Tom Ellsworth?

  So I'm just curious to, hey, Don, what happened to you? And shame on you while your white husband is back there cleaning the house and doing whatever. You're saying that he is the problem with this country. Shame on you and shame on you, Ilhan Omar. Same thing happened to him that happened to Erin Burnett. Erin Burnett was on CNBC in the morning, doing morning show, talking business, opening up, opening bell, squawk on the street. There was those programs that you see on CNBC. And she, by all accounts, was down the middle. And there was plenty of opportunity for her there to express her opinion about the government on this law, that law, legislation, regulation of business, the Fed, plenty of things. She was down there. She goes to CNN, signs it and takes the contract.

• 1:55:27Tom Ellsworth?

  And suddenly, it's almost like, did the contracts that Don Lemon and Erin Burnett took when they stepped into a bigger chair at CNN, did it radicalize them? Were they radicalized by the dollars?

• 1:55:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You put it on Zucker? You put it on the heads of CNN? Is that who you put it on?

• 1:55:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, somebody has to sign the contract and be interested. And then there's a lot of producers that tell you, this is the way it's going to be that you may not have seen when you signed the contract.

• 1:55:54Patrick Bet-David?

  So, Rob, why don't we do this? So let's go to Charlie Kirk and new stories coming out. So last week, we showed a clip, maybe on Monday, the Range Day Bro clip. Guy on my neck sends me a message saying, Pat, that Range Day Bro clip you played was great, but a guy just sent me something showing a completely different thing. Fast forward the Range Day Bro clip to about four minutes. Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. And go a little bit more. Okay, back up a little bit, Rob. Back up, back up, back up a little bit, back up a little bit, back up a little bit. Where it shows the headset on Charlie's ear. Go back, go back, go back, go back, go back, go back. Let's see if we're going to see it or not. Go back a little bit, so he's showing this part.

• 1:56:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Ah, man, okay, right there. Play it from right there, Rob.

• 1:56:43Speaker 02

  Comes in. I don't see people coming in anywhere. In that circle area. You have the blood splatter go down then up and then the exit wound emerges. You're also going to find out this guy talks out both sides of his mouth. He'll say something like, "The FBI is lying, the official narrative is lying." And then he'll say, "I'm not accusing anybody of anything."

• 1:56:53Tom Ellsworth?

  What matters is that the official narrative is not true.

• 1:56:55Patrick Bet-David?

  See that thing that comes out and it looks like it's blood, right?

• 1:56:58Speaker 03

  They will say it's 100% conclusive or it's already been proven.

• 1:57:02Patrick Bet-David?

  It looked like blood, even we thought it was blood, right? Now Rob, go fast forward at a different angle with him. Just fast forward the clip and go until he shows the angle. Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep, keep going. Okay, uh, right there, right there. Go back about 20 seconds. Okay, play it from right there. Go ahead.

• 1:57:22Speaker 03

  So we're going through here step by step, frame by frame, until we find it. So that right there, you can see his, him, his reaction right here. So this is what I believe to be the first frame capturing his reaction of, of anything from the bullet. So now here, when you look around his ear, I believe that is the wire.

• 1:57:39Patrick Bet-David?

  One of those earpiece, like you know, the wire when you speak.

• 1:57:41Speaker 03

  And it's often a transparent type wire. Now let's go ahead and one more frame.

• 1:57:47Patrick Bet-David?

  That comes up, so it looks like it's blood.

• 1:57:49Speaker 03

  Behind him. That is certainly not blood splatter like this guy falsely claimed. And also, where's the blood dripping that he was claiming was on, dripping on the side of Charlie's head? There is no blood there because there was no entry wound here.

• 1:58:03Patrick Bet-David?

  That's his opinion.

• 1:58:04Speaker 03

  One more frame.

• 1:58:06Speaker 03

  You can see that it was up in the air.

• 1:58:10Speaker 03

  You can see it's still right there, still vertical. And now it's right there. It just flung behind his head and it's kind of going diagonal right there. And keep your eye right there on that spot. You're going to see it disappear on the next frame. See, it moved up and gone already because it, because of the force of the impact. Now, nowhere here is there any type of entry wound. You would have seen an explosive entry wound by now, just like we did from the views from the front.

• 1:58:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Which shows that there was absolutely zero shots hitting Charlie from this side. So anybody that tries to show you a video from- Pause it right there. Okay, so remember guys, this is why I love what's going on right now. Everybody is what? Reacting to whatever they have and reacting to whatever they have. Tom, when you see this, what do you think about?

• 1:58:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I want to see all the perspectives and all the angles. I, I, I don't want to keep seeing, you know, Charlie and, and the moment of, of passing there. But I want to know for sure what's up. I want to know for sure what's up. And everybody that is a forensic analyst is saying the same thing. They said, "That does not look like an entry wound on the front of his neck. That does not look like an entry wound. That looks like an exit wound." You have hunters have talked about this. You have people that are coroners that have talked about this. And so the question is, okay, how did such a cataclysmic wound happen there?

• 1:59:42Tom Ellsworth?

  And, you know, the bullet, man of steel was lodged in there. Okay. Is somebody going to do ballistics? So I'm, I'm waiting for conclusive data from a real investigation other than, "Hey, his DNA was on this firearm." Okay, but was, had the firearm been fired? Now, did, um, and do we have ballistics on the, the, the bullet that is said was found in his neck just below the skin? I just, I, I want to see all these angles and I'm glad that one is keeping others in check. But man, that, that's an exit wound from the front.

• 2:00:21Tom Ellsworth?

  That's, that's my opinion based on the folks that I'm watching, who are experts in these kind of forensics. And so the question is, how do you get that kind of a wound?

• 2:00:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny? I'm, I'm with Tom 100%. They're claiming, this is the FBI and everybody, that it was the 30 out of 6. It was not a 30 out of 6. The official narrative-

• 2:00:45Tom Ellsworth?

  is not official and this guy is just and I get 100% it looks like an earpiece but from anybody that shot guns and knows about this type of thing that that if it was a 30 out 6 it would have been a completely he would have been rat it would have been disgusting it would have been a lot worse than what you guys saw number one number two all this footage those cameras camera phone sucked in and it's blurry the main footage is the HD camera that was sitting behind Charlie shooting down capturing him and the entire crowd but somebody from Turning Point grabbed it was all sneaky with it put it in a hat and give it to another guy that ran off and we're supposed to just take their word that this guy handed it off after he looked at it and gave it to the FBI I'm sorry I don't believe the official narrative

• 2:01:29Patrick Bet-David?

  you called the school

• 2:01:30Tom Ellsworth?

  I called yesterday I called I called and Amanda was with me she recorded it I called UVU and I called and I called to the the main the main desk and I said hey I'm I'm with such and such I made up a thing and I said I'm trying to find out if you guys because the construction that's happening right now is unbelievable it doesn't even look like what it is right now okay doesn't make sense I said who do I talk to this we just you guys just had and I apologize you guys had the biggest assassination since JFK on your campus was there scheduled construction on the exact site where this happened can you can you comment on that he goes let me let me direct you to the right place your conversations your typing da da da da da sends me to to uh like maintenance or

• 2:02:14Tom Ellsworth?

  something like that and it's a female that picks up and I go hey I'm so and so with with um media I go I'm just curious did you guys have construction set up whispering talking I can't talk to you about that I go no no hold on one second I don't need information about the shooting or nothing like that did you guys have scheduled maintenance because I would assume that if it's a if it's an assassination at this magnitude you would leave the crime scene for potential bullets potential you know fragments other things that recreate in the scene there's stuff in that ceiling that overhead pack that there's cameras there's an opening that you could get in there I'm like how is this normal who made the decision I can't say anything let me give you the information to our um VP of strategic

• 2:02:55Speaker 06

  And communications management. I called her three times. I didn't want to say her name. I called three times. Nobody picked up and I left the message. I'm just trying to figure out with this type of magnitude, and you know what's insane? For how many minutes after, not one police officer, not one police officer went there and secured the crime scene. I've watched multiple videos. I've watched aftermath of videos. I saw people coming and stealing hats off a truck and throwing them. Some guys like, what the hell are you doing? There's no way this type of cover up. And the fact that when, when you

• 2:03:25Tom Ellsworth?

  That's a fact that you, law enforcement should have shown up and taped.

• 2:03:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Why didn't they?

• 2:03:29Speaker 06

  And you know what's crazy?

• 2:03:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Just like Butler.

• 2:03:31Speaker 06

  They were there though. I don't know, but you know what's crazy, Pat? I saw a cop, one cop, basically had his gun drawn while they were bringing Charlie, God rest his soul, to the vehicle. Your job, bro, is to go, this, this idiot, and by the way, Candace yesterday was talking about this guy, Pat. She knows him. She goes, never has this guy ever been around when we were on tour.

• 2:03:49Tom Ellsworth?

  This who? Back up a second and say who we're talking about.

• 2:03:51Speaker 06

  The guy with the camera that was taking the SD card out.

• 2:03:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Who stood on the chair.

• 2:03:54Speaker 06

  Who stood, think about this, guys. It's a crime scene. You're moving the chair that he was shot. There's probably evidence in there if there was, God forbid, a bullet in there. He's climbing up there, moving everything, and nobody's saying anything? Common sense 101. You're touching the crime scene. That's the main event. That camera has everything. Okay, and I'm sorry, people are like, who do you trust? Get Israel, get all that out of there. The way that it was handled and the fact that his friends and everybody else have just moved on and they're worrying about Turning Point does not sit with me, well, Pat. And I'm talking about my mom, I'm talking about people from all walks of life are like, something doesn't feel right.

• 2:04:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's mom?

• 2:04:33Speaker 06

  My mom, my aunt, my cousins, my friends, I'm having messages from people that I haven't talked to in years that are like, I know I watched the show and everything. They go, none of us feel like what we're being told is the truth. Not with Tyler, not with any, none of it is adding up. The boyfriends disappear. Now they're trying to say that Tyler didn't even step foot on the campus that day.

• 2:04:51Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think's gonna end up happening?

• 2:04:54Speaker 06

  Just like every single time, PBD, they always get away with it. Evil, evil on this sense, they get away with it. Cause we're, we're almost three weeks into it and, and I'm, and I'm, she, I know some of the, her points are a little out there. She's the only one.

• 2:05:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Somebody from their side is asking questions like this. If you were my friend, Pat, and I died, I would want you to be like, I would want you to be like, wait a minute. Where the, who, why were you touching shit? Who is, who has the footage? And it doesn't add up. Tyler doesn't even add up.

• 2:05:22Tom Ellsworth?

  So I, I, I'm thinking three things. Actually, I assume like two. The first is there are hard facts that dots aren't connecting. Did he fire one shot from up on top? Crowd reaction appears to be a little, little different. Is, and he really ran off that way with that gun of that size in that, in that jacket or blanket, whatever he had there. He was walking peg leg down the street with the, the gun down the leg of his pants. You know, there's, there's things on the, the Tyler angle that don't add up.

• 2:06:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Why is this, this older gentleman standing up when everybody would be ducking down? You know, uh, I, I was in a restaurant when a gunshot went off in a, in a bar, one, one gunshot. Everybody was on the ground. We were all under the tables until, till a server said, you know, um, our security guy took the guy outside. Nobody got shot. And, but I, I've, I've seen that. So that's one point in my life when I was in college, I heard a gunshot indoors. You're all down. Why is this whole guy standing up waving a hat? So I see little facts like this that just don't seem to add up. Why wasn't there police there taping up the, the scene?

• 2:06:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Why are people taking cameras that would be holding footage? That would be of great interest to the FBI. Why is the Utah governor coming to the microphone? We got him and we got the gun. It's, it, it reminds me if you read Oswald, they did the same thing. They held up the, the Italian gun. And then they talked about Oswald in the day later that killed Oswald.

• 2:07:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, weird. Brandon, what do you think happened? What do you think's going on?

• 2:07:13Tom Ellsworth?

  So I just, these facts bother me. There's my headline, Pat. The facts that we can have bother me.

• 2:07:17Speaker 03

  So the only thing I could say for certain is that we're clearly not being told everything that the FBI knows. We're not being told everything the hospital knows. We're not being told everything Turning Point knows. And that was one of the things I was most excited about for this administration was the notion of having a transparent FBI for the first time. Where, you know, we know the games they play for like the JFK stuff, with the Butler, Pennsylvania stuff. And even the Epstein stuff, but you know, we're not getting that. And you would think that somebody like Kirk, who was the, almost the most responsible person for getting Trump alive. Like Trump could be in jail if it wasn't for Charlie Kirk with what the Democrats wanted to do for him. You would think that he would have come down with more vengeance and more curiosity about what happened to Kirk and spoke about that more. So I'm surprised to see that from Trump then that he's not more curious about what happened to Kirk.

• 2:07:58Speaker 03

  I'm surprised that Cash Patel's not being more transparent and forcedful to find out what happened. And then not only that, they're not, they're not, they're withholding stuff from us in addition, not being transparent about. So I don't think there's enough to say for certain who might have done it, but I can say for certain that we don't know everything they know. And they're like making it, they're forcing us to come up with these theories and alternate opinions because they're being deceptive.

• 2:08:22Patrick Bet-David?

  How long, how long are you willing to be patient? Like actually Hanlon's razor, okay?

• 2:08:28Speaker 03

  Aquaman?

• 2:08:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Hanlon's razor.

• 2:08:30Speaker 03

  What's that one?

• 2:08:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Hanlon's razor, if you pull it up, Rob, I'll read it. Hanlon's razor is

• 2:08:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Never attribute to malice.

• 2:08:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity, Tom, or

• 2:08:44Tom Ellsworth?

  A mistake.

• 2:08:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Or a mistake. So it suggests that negative events or poor actions are more often the result of ignorance, incompetence, carelessness, or other non malicious factors that intentional evil, then intentional evil or malice. And let's take this as innocent until proven guilty perspective real quick. None of this stuff makes sense. Bullet goes in here, shouldn't be an explosion. Bullet goes in here, it comes out because it, it, it should, the damage doesn't go in like that. The damage comes out. So I'm with you. I'm on the same page. That coming out looks like it didn't come this way because at first I, we thought it was blood squirting. It's not blood squirting. It was actually things. So that's good that we're seeing that.

• 2:09:25Patrick Bet-David?

  The guy standing up automatically and starts walking towards the area being shot is the same guy that was there on nine 11. And then the guy putting the chip in the hat and walking, all this stuff, I'm with it. And But, but to me, to me, I guess the question I'm asking is, how long, imagine you're them. You are Cash. You're doing the investigation. How long should you have? To get to the bottom of this? I guess that's the part that we don't know. And what is the protocol? What are you supposed to go through? What's supposed to be the process? How many people are you interviewing? How many people are you supposed to be talking to? You know, the, the, the fact that you're seeing the place being fixed up. And that's where the shooting was and you get it fixed.

• 2:10:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Have they made an announcement why they did the construction?

• 2:10:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Absolutely not.

• 2:10:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Has the school made any?

• 2:10:13Tom Ellsworth?

  It's changed.

• 2:10:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I totally get it. Rob, is there any, is there any announcement by the university why they've done that?

• 2:10:20Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I, I took a look this morning. I could not find a single news article, nothing about any type of construction that was being planned either.

• 2:10:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you send me, is that clip on Twitter? I have her number again, Pat. Is that, is that, is that?

• 2:10:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 2:10:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Pat, should I call her again? There is no autopsy, right? What, what is the? I'm gonna call, her name, her name is Ellen. I could call them right now. Call them right now. Okay. I love this. Call them right now. This is what? This is the university? Rob, can we call and you just?

• 2:10:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Hang on one second.

• 2:10:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, hey.

• 2:10:49Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what I'm trying to find out is? I'm doing it. All we want to know is one thing. Have you made the announcement? Of?

• 2:10:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, Utah is a one-party consent state, so you're good.

• 2:11:00Patrick Bet-David?

  You understand, so I could do this?

• 2:11:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, but Florida's two-party.

• 2:11:05Patrick Bet-David?

  So you can't do that. You can't do that. Well, but this is all I've been getting. Nobody picks up. I know. You can't do that. So, what, what, what I want to do is, I'm gonna ask the question to see if they've made the announcement. You don't just fix up the place that got shot up and not make an announcement about it. So, play as if you're on the inside. What's your argument? Don't play the devil's advocate. Play the opposite of devil's advocate. Which is, what do you call the opposite of devil's advocate? What, what, what is the antonym of devil's advocate? How do you? God's advocate? Do you know what I'm saying? Like? Like, one can be the opposite, the opposite opinion. They're doing everything truthfully. Okay. What's your argument? You're on Cash's team. Give that argument. On Cash's team, it's like, you, well, I mean?

• 2:11:51Speaker 06

  The shooter.

• 2:11:52Speaker 03

  You would say that it'd be because they don't want to give evidence away to, that would be pertinent to know on the FBI side. But Cash is the one that came out and said, hey, we got him before they even had him. So he, that contradicts the notion of them trying to withhold things from the public.

• 2:12:05Speaker 06

  Yeah, saying, saying that you have a shooter that fast before you actually had the shooter, doesn't give you any, doesn't add any credibility to you, which you've already lost the credibility.

• 2:12:14Patrick Bet-David?

  But remember, you're not doing it. Just do it for a second.

• 2:12:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Walter Hamon.

• 2:12:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You're, you're the spokesperson for them and you truly know everything they know. Okay. Speak on their behalf. What do you say?

• 2:12:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, I respect the public's curiosity here. It's a horrible thing that happens to a very public figure. This is an active investigation. There are multiple angles that are being pursued here. And we have to pursue those and complete the investigation without tipping off people or without framing it through the media. And we can't lose our opportunity to prosecute because certain things are misrepresented in the media. So you need to let us do our work. We're interviewing a lot of people and following a lot of leads. Now, I'm stuck. So let's say I'm the, um, I'm the, you know, press secretary for the FBI. Says, well, so the, why did you say you have your, you, you got him? If there's a second shooter, don't you have to come forward and say you don't got him?

• 2:13:09Tom Ellsworth?

  So in that case, Pat, it would be hard for me. Now, how do I spin from the inside? So you're saying maybe you don't got him. You're saying you're still investigating. Either you got him and you're done FBI or you're pursuing other leads, still looking into it. Which, which is it, sir? And you're kind of stuck, but from the inside, that's what I would be saying.

• 2:13:28Speaker 06

  What's up, Ron?

• 2:13:28Tom Ellsworth?

  It's interesting. There's some construction, um, information that's been released by the Utah Valley University, but none of it has to do with the building that you guys are mentioning or where Charlie was shot. So they, uh, released a, a student center remodel. There's an article about that. There's also the Scott M. Smith building that they were constructing. There's also the, uh, stadium that they're going to be using. So they do issue announcements regarding construction ongoing at the campus. There is nothing written about where Charlie was shot and construction being done there.

• 2:13:59Speaker 06

  Weird. It's so weird.

• 2:14:01Patrick Bet-David?

  The, the, here's the problem. The problem is, it's hard to make a case for them.

• 2:14:09Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the problem.

• 2:14:11Patrick Bet-David?

  It's hard to make a case why it's...

• 2:14:16Patrick Bet-David?

  If, if, let's just say the school does have that construction, uh, uh...

• 2:14:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Scheduled?

• 2:14:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Scheduled. You're the FBI, you're the local PD, you're... Guys, you're not touching this for three weeks.

• 2:14:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yeah, a week!

• 2:14:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you, can you look up, Rob? What is the longest a crime scene stayed intact?

• 2:14:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Good question.

• 2:14:37Patrick Bet-David?

  What is the longest a crime scene stayed intact, just to get all evidence?

• 2:14:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Or the average amount of time even?

• 2:14:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I wanna know the longest. I wanna know the longest, not the average amount, I wanna know, because, sure, the average is gonna be probably eight hours, 12 hours, 14 hours. But what is the longest a crime, crime scene stayed intact? Uh, uh, and maybe that's not the question, Rob. Uh, uh, Tom, what's the question? Are we asking the question the right way? Do you know what I'm trying to ask?

• 2:15:03Tom Ellsworth?

  What standard, standard practice, maybe? Yeah, what is, yeah, what is the standard?

• 2:15:09Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's not what I'm talking about.

• 2:15:10Tom Ellsworth?

  You're saying like, there was a murder.

• 2:15:12Patrick Bet-David?

  A murder scene, like, what's the longest?

• 2:15:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Forty-plus days later in homes or hidden containers.

• 2:15:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Forty years later. No, but that's not, that's not real. What I'm asking is, what is the longest in America, after a murder took place, that the FBI asked to keep the murder scene, uh, untouched, for them to investigate the entire, you know, homicide? Okay? I, I wanna know this question, because I wanna make comps. I wanna make comparisons. Let's look at this here. In 1969, the FBI exhumed the body, this decades later, and get the names of Donald Trump. If you liked it, I can, no, I wanna know how, because, let's just say, let's just say we'll look this up. Shouldn't be hard to find this, Rob. I, I just don't know if we're asking the question the right way.

• 2:16:03Patrick Bet-David?

  It, it, let's just say if there's cases where it was 40 days. It better be bigger than this assassination. Let's say there's cases that's two and a half months. I'm sure there are. Why did you move so quickly on this one? I, I, I don't, I don't understand that. Leave the scene the way it is until we get everything figured out. Okay, so World Trade Center, eight months, okay. John Baney Ramsey house, Boulder, six-year-old murderer, family owner, remain under investigation? For months. For months. Evidence was collected over a long span, but the house was eventually released and later sold. The house remained sealed and under investigation for months. Okay. Yeah. So, so John Baney Ramsey, six-year-old murder, Oklahoma City bombing.

• 2:16:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Manson family murders, crime scene for weeks, where, okay. The Tate La Bianca houses were crime scenes for weeks, but eventually returned to owners. For weeks, that's weeks, bro. Yep, weeks. Typical duration is what most homicide scenes in the US are held for days to weeks. Sometimes months, if the site is a large or high profile. Is this not a high profile? So, so do me a favor, Rob. Go with the question and ask, how long was Charlie Kirk's scene kept, uh, uh, uh, what do you call it? Intact. How long did it say? No, like, how long, how long did they say, you know, uh, um, uh, uh, yeah, I guess intact. How long was Charlie Kirk's crime scene kept intact?

• 2:17:31Patrick Bet-David?

  In order to fulfill the, in order to finish the investigation. While he's tapping that pad? In order to finish the investigation. Okay? Let's see what it says here.

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• 2:18:40Speaker 03

  He reminds me of them hosing off the roof at Butler, Pennsylvania after that happened.

• 2:18:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, you'd think.

• 2:18:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, how long was it? What does it say?

• 2:18:46Tom Ellsworth?

  There is no, there isn't any record credible evidence, court filings, or FBI reports.

• 2:18:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't understand this guy.

• 2:18:52Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 2:18:53Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I don't understand this because to me...

• 2:18:57Tom Ellsworth?

  What?

• 2:19:00Patrick Bet-David?

  What was that guy's, the something collector, bone collector, what was that movie?

• 2:19:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Bone Collector with Denzel.

• 2:19:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Denzel Washington and, I don't know what it was.

• 2:19:07Tom Ellsworth?

  So there's, there's a simple question I have. Why didn't the police secure the area and take all the photographs? They have these, these little number tents, have you seen them? They say 12345678. They put them on the ground and they take, and they take... They take photographs. I, did anybody see any of that here? No, and there was police present. So there's a simple, without going conspiracy, goes a simple fact-based question. Why didn't A, law enforcement, campus police, local police, FBI, sequester and photograph everything the way that we see it?

• 2:19:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you a question. If, if this happens to me and my wife tells the FBI, "I don't want you to investigate it", does the FBI still has a duty to go out there and investigate it?

• 2:19:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, she just made herself the first suspect.

• 2:19:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, that increases the odds of the investigation.

• 2:19:55Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean...

• 2:19:56Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but if, but if family says, "We're good, we're moved", I'm trying to find out like, who has the authority to say, you know how sometimes somebody commits a crime against you, like, "We're not filing any charges"? Can that immediately stop an investigation?

• 2:20:10Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think so.

• 2:20:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Shouldn't the FBI and the police department still, even if you forgive them?

• 2:20:14Tom Ellsworth?

  No, in the case of, in the case of simple battery or things like this, I can decide. So if there's, so, you punch me...

• 2:20:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Too many questions.

• 2:20:21Tom Ellsworth?

  You punch me in a restaurant. There are no cameras in the restaurant, nothing anywhere.

• 2:20:25Patrick Bet-David?

  And you know where I'm at.

• 2:20:26Tom Ellsworth?

  And there's no witnesses.

• 2:20:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Obviously, private conversation, but...

• 2:20:29Speaker 03

  Oh, and I, and guess what? The more and more I think about that, the more and more yours is making sense.

• 2:20:33Speaker 06

  So Pat, my cousin, Mike's wife Nina just messaged me. Uh, her kids were at, uh, the Saugus school shooting. They closed the whole school down for five days. Five days, nobody went to the-

• 2:20:43Patrick Bet-David?

  You closed and was anybody killed?

• 2:20:45Speaker 06

  Saugus, yeah. He started shooting. I don't remember how many people, but my-

• 2:20:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Five days?

• 2:20:49Speaker 06

  Five days, the school was shut down.

• 2:20:51Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and, and for Charlie Kirk to be assassinated-

• 2:20:53Speaker 06

  Days after it was construction. Days after, they were already digging up the floor.

• 2:20:57Patrick Bet-David?

  So by the way, by the way, by the way. If, if anybody is sitting here and you're like, "You guys are going down the rabbit hole. I can't believe you're doing this." Do you know what you're doing? You're giving credibility to everybody that's going down the rabbit hole by simply doing what you just did. So you got other instances, you want to stay there for four or five weeks, sometimes two months. At one case, house, no one goes in it for nearly eight months, and you're telling me for this one, nobody wants to come and investigate to see what happened there? You're, you're doing this to yourself.

• 2:21:29Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 2:21:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You're doing this to yourself. By the way-

• 2:21:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, Rob, pull this through. Uh, just search for murder scene investigation photos.

• 2:21:36Speaker 06

  Three killed in Saugus, three injured.

• 2:21:38Tom Ellsworth?

  And let's look at the yellow tape.

• 2:21:38Speaker 06

  Killed three people.

• 2:21:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Go images.

• 2:21:40Speaker 03

  Quick question though, so the-

• 2:21:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Take a look right here. You see this? That's it. This is FBI taping it off. Everything would get tagged, Pat. And look at all the pictures they would take here. How many items they have there? They have, in this, this isn't Charlie Kirk, but in this FBI investigation-

• 2:21:55Speaker 06

  Everything, look at this, a phone!

• 2:21:57Tom Ellsworth?

  There are seventy-five points that are being photographed.

• 2:22:00Speaker 06

  Just from what we see. Just from what we see. And they just walked away from it. That's, that's sound, that's gross negligence or incompetence? Like what? You guys are being negligent.

• 2:22:09Speaker 03

  I was just about to say that. I think Hamlin's razor, I mean, who made that the universal principle? I almost think it could be the opposite of that sometimes. Don't attribute to stupidity what could be attributed to malice. Cause I mean, what's more-

• 2:22:19Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I think Hamlin's razor is necessary. It's what makes America so great. Justice, right? Innocent till proven guilty. Okay, yes, trust, but verify. So thi- this is the part where I, I, I, I wanna, I have questions. What I'm, by the way, we're not even professionals. We don't do this for a living. We're just asking basic questions that you don't have the answers for. And in, in any case, if you come to me and you say, "Dad, I want this," no. Well, you did it for, uh, my brother. And you're like, ah shit. Okay. So guess what? The natural reaction is to do what? To get a comp. I want to, my offer is $800,000. This is a 1.1 million dollar house. No, it's an $800,000 house. Why?

• 2:23:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Because a house that was built after yours and better condition with recent upgrades, with one additional bedroom and a swimming pool, and .1 acre bigger than yours sold for $798, and I'm giving you $800,000. And that happened three months ago. I'm using the comp. Yes. So to me, the comp on this is, if you've spent weeks at a different place, and this is the biggest story, the biggest assassination we've had in America the last 60 years, and you move this quickly? I, I, I, uh, I don't know. I don't, to, to me, the biggest thing is this, by the way, okay? To me, the biggest thing is when the conversations comes about, "Well, it's Israel." Nope. I'm not putting you there. To me, the conversation, "Well, they had a meeting because of this." Okay. Bill Ackman shows a text.

• 2:23:48Patrick Bet-David?

  To me, the conversation is, you know, "Okay, you want to debunk those or whatever? Fine." To me, the, but then if you're hearing conversations about, "No, man. Why aren't you guys want to ask more questions to see what happened?" Guess what? You give credibility. That's the, that's the area where you're like, "There's a point there." You know, "There's a point of what's going on here. You want me to sit on the sidelines and think that's it?" No, your, your, your comp sucks. You're losing, by the way, again, this, this goes back to, um,

• 2:24:23Patrick Bet-David?

  this goes back to the Epstein situation, where you ask, again, too suspicious that all of these things are going on. Who are you protecting? Who are you hiding? Who are you defending? Who are you worried about? Of course, we heard the one story that the guy comes out and says, "Bill Clinton, yes, but Trump, no," right? What was that one, uh? Yeah, the DOJ for James O'Keefe for Project Veritas. Yeah, and so, okay. "No, no, no, he didn't do anything for us." Yeah, he actually did for you, right? So we learned. But you make people be skeptical. So to me, Yeah, the construction of Utah Valley University campus site where Charlie Crook was assassin involves removing the blood stains, grass and replacing it with bricks, creating

• 2:25:05Patrick Bet-David?

  a makeshift memorial area where people can leave memento, mementos. There are no confirmed detail on additional permanent structures beyond this modification. What type of construction is being done at the campus?

• 2:25:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Bro.

• 2:25:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And you do it that quickly?

• 2:25:19Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no. This, yeah, they say, uh, the scene was held for eight to 14 days before releasing it.

• 2:25:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:25:26Tom Ellsworth?

  That's according to Grok.

• 2:25:26Speaker 06

  Uh, yeah, well, guess what? I, that, that's not what I saw where, where students were recording going, look, they're already digging it up. I'm just curious too, from our audience, that poll that you ran, what's the percentage of them not being convinced about the official story? Do we have the, I'm curious to where-

• 2:25:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Eighty-two to eighteen last time I saw.

• 2:25:45Speaker 06

  Eighty-two per, eighty-two percent are like, no, not-

• 2:25:48Patrick Bet-David?

  That's nearly eight thousand votes.

• 2:25:49Speaker 06

  That's, that's, yeah, not believing it. And good for you guys.

• 2:25:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:25:52Speaker 06

  You have to question for just this guy's, just for his, for Charlie, bro, for his soul, like, cause nobody, his friends aren't doing it.

• 2:26:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:26:00Speaker 06

  Like, where, where is the whole, everybody's moved on their own podcast, smiling and, yo, your boy, your husband, your freaking, your guy that was running a $500 million company is gone. And y'all are just like, yeah, we're gonna just release old footage of him. We have, we have tons. We're so, they use the word excited and smiled. I know everybody grieves in their own way, but guys, for his sake, take a timeout with the future of TPUSA and find out what the hell's going on. Ask about that. George Zinn, I don't know where he is. I don't know where the poor child pedophilia on his phone is. There needs to be, I hope they're doing it, guys, because you know what's gonna hap-

• 2:26:39Patrick Bet-David?

  What is Tucker questioning?

• 2:26:41Speaker 06

  I don't even, have you guys even heard what Tucker had to say?

• 2:26:43Tom Ellsworth?

  No, but we've seen cases like this where, you know, the district attorney is downtown and all these people show up and they're holding little pieces of paper and they're usually quiet, like a vigil, and they say, answers for Ashley, right?

• 2:26:56Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 2:26:56Tom Ellsworth?

  And they have a picture of her and they saying, you know, holding it up like this. You've seen it, Pat, where they're all sitting there, you know, um, and, and then they like, they'll ambush the district attorney when he's walking out one day. We need answers for Ashley. What other investigation are you? We need answers. Where, where is everybody looking? You know what I mean?

• 2:27:16Speaker 06

  I'm, I'm so dis- disappointed them what and the only thing Tucker did because I haven't seen anything because Tucker's been doing segments and guests and the nine eleven stuff which was which was fantastic. The only thing that he did was was the memorial, which another question, why weren't Charlie's parents at the memorial? I'm very curious if anybody knows, I get it, it's a it's a it's a tragic, your son was assassinated. This is a big event, the President of the United States is there, why weren't the parents there? I'm very, very curious as to that, I'm very, very curious. Because you would think the parents would be at something like that monumental, that's something that big.

• 2:27:55Patrick Bet-David?

  They have they spoken out, have they said anything, Rob, have they come out and said anything? I have not seen anything.

• 2:28:01Speaker 06

  The only thing and I'm sorry, going back to my point, Tucker, the only thing Tucker did was speak at the memorial and he and he said, Jesus was speaking the truth and he was murdered, same thing that happened, that was a quick speech to the point and and he left. And that was it.

• 2:28:15Patrick Bet-David?

  But is he is he speculating and asking any questions? I haven't heard anything. He is heavily supportive of what's going on with Turning Point USA, heavily. He's asking, whatever you guys need from me, I'm here for you. Yes. So what does that mean? Do you trust Tucker? I trust Tucker. So why is Tucker so supportive of Turning Point USA? You think he would?

• 2:28:32Speaker 06

  I think.

• 2:28:33Patrick Bet-David?

  If he had some questions?

• 2:28:34Speaker 06

  Well, I think immediately when it happened, he donated.

• 2:28:36Patrick Bet-David?

  A million dollars.

• 2:28:36Speaker 06

  A million dollars, that's that's.

• 2:28:37Patrick Bet-David?

  But no, Tucker, just a couple of days ago on the Turning Point USA podcast says, whatever you guys need from me, I'm here for you guys. That's what he said immediately. And he is he is a guy that you would have seen in a situation like this questioning if he felt something he didn't trust.

• 2:28:53Speaker 06

  And he's not.

• 2:28:54Patrick Bet-David?

  He's not, he's just saying, hey, this is what's going on, I lost a friend. And he's moving with it. So this is this is what I'm about. I want to see what everybody else is saying because I want to see what's going on here. I want to see everything. If you can go through this season and just kind of hear some of the stuff out and not be controlled by the mob and jump to conclusion, you'll be ahead of the game. Naturally, you're going to want to gravitate towards somebody. Naturally, you want to you're going to want to gravitate towards what you thinking happened. But reason is being willing to hear opposing arguments that contradicts your own argument. If your ego will permit to do that, and we're willing to do that.

• 2:29:37Patrick Bet-David?

  And we're willing to do that. This was a. This was a very special guy. Charlie is a very, very special guy and he will be, he will not be replaced. There's not going to be a guy that's going to come and replace Charlie Kirk tomorrow. There's a bunch of guys that are going out there saying, "I will continue what Charlie did." Yeah. Glad you're inspired. He's a good guy to replicate and duplicate. But he was a one of one and may his soul rest in peace as I'm certain it will. Gang, I got a flight to catch. We enjoyed the podcast. Brandon, good job.

• 2:30:11Speaker 06

  Thanks for having me.

• 2:30:12Patrick Bet-David?

  If you have any mannequins you want to send to Brandon, that is Brandon's QR code. Right there with a beautiful red tie. If you have anything you want to share with him, send him a mannequin.

• 2:30:21Speaker 06

  What about the four women for Tom if she's out there?

• 2:30:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, no, she's, she's already, she's already mannequined.

• 2:30:27Speaker 06

  She mannequined Tom?

• 2:30:28Patrick Bet-David?

  She's already mannequined and she's like, you know.

• 2:30:29Speaker 06

  Four women? What am I, Mormon?

• 2:30:32Speaker 06

  The four men, four women.

• 2:30:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, all right, gang, do your thing. Rob, are we back on Friday?

• 2:30:35Speaker 06

  Friday, yes, sir.

• 2:30:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, we'll be back on Friday. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

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