Comey Indicted, Trump's Kimmel Lawsuit & Charlie Kirk Assassination Theories | PBD Podcast | Ep. 656

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick analyze Comey’s indictment, Trump’s threatened lawsuit against Jimmy Kimmel, and the swirling theories about a possible second shooter in Charlie Kirk’s assassination. ------ 📺 RECOMMEND TALENT FOR HER TAKE PODCAST: https://bit.ly/4nUudiw 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj Ⓜ️ JOIN THE PBD PODCAST CIRCLES COMMUNITY: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 1:09Speaker 02

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  I send you right back.

• 1:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:22Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so gang, there's a study I saw yesterday that I really want to talk about today on the podcast. It showed Gen Z women who voted for Kamala versus Gen Z men who voted for Trump. Where having a child was on their top 20 priority list. Let me put it to you this way. You will be shell shocked. Well, maybe some of you guys won't be shocked, but we'll take a look at that here momentarily on that study. It tells you what each side is selling. So if I voted for Kamala, what do I believe in? Do I believe in certain things? And if I voted for Trump, what do I believe in? By the way, the long-term ramification on who it helps and hurts. You know, one of the things at the Vault Conference, which you know, we have the clip somewhere.

• 2:07Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll show it to you here momentarily, Rob, if you can get it from Chad. There was a moment at the Vault Conference in front of nearly 8,000 people. I said, who here has more than four kids? More than five kids stay standing? More than six kids standing? More than seven kids standing? More than eight kids? And then I had all the parents with eight plus kids come up to recognize them. This is a very, very fundamental.

• 2:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Leak in in the argument of one side that is gonna screw them up long term. But that's one of the things we're gonna talk about. The other part is this guy named James Comey. He used to have a job as a director of this thing called FBI that he has been indicted for now. Okay, and that's causing some of his FBI members to quit. And they're just stepping away. They're walking away. And after what happened with Kimmel, Kimmel, wait till you see the number of viewership he got on his first episode back. He threatens lawsuit over ABC resuming Kimmel. And his claims about campaign finance law talks about, you know, the Forbes story. We're gonna talk about here. Whoopi Goldberg suggested maybe time to invoke the 22nd amendment, maybe the 23rd.

• 3:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Who knows what it is. Maybe it's the 25th amendment. You see this clip, they don't even know what amendment they're talking about, but they think it's time for Trump to step out. New York City, this Mom Donny guy is getting a bigger lead. And and there's not many people excited about Eric Adams. So who knows what's gonna happen. And Curtis Leewa is claiming that he was offered money to step out. Who knows what's going on in that New York? Situation. Meghan Kelly goes out there, talks to students at schools over Charlie Crook's assassination, lie at Virginia. Tech TPUSA event, White House unveils these pictures of all the presidents. I hadn't seen this till yesterday, guys. Tom, Vinnie and Adam showed it to me yesterday. It's pictures of all the all the great presidents, one by one by one.

• 3:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And then it comes to Biden. Biden's picture is by far the best picture. So you can tell he was posing solid on that picture there. Newsom is claiming there will not be a 2028 election. Because he thinks, you know, Trump's gonna change America. And you won't be able to vote, folks, 2028. Yet he's campaigning every single day to be a president in 2028. Uh, uh, leading with a ton of fear porn. And if you like fear porn, you're gonna love Newsom. Newsom may be the greatest fear porn star of all time. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You gotta realize, like, you know how they give this vivid awards every year in Vegas? And this porn guy, you know, this guy named, you know, Ches Rockwell, this other guy named Larry Longcorn, what all these names that they give away. Fair North. This is gonna be the greatest fear porn stall of all time.

• 4:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Gavin Newsom.

• 4:44Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 4:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Welcome to the jungle.

• 4:46Adam Sosnick?

  I could see Gavin doing actual.

• 4:47Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I mean, we're not going there, buddy. No, no, no. You have interest in that. We don't, we don't in our jackets pull out a card of a guy that says, "Welcome to Excalibur." Illusionist. Let me tell you this illusionist, Adams, the only one that's got cards of illusionist.

• 5:04Adam Sosnick?

  Read my last text. Tell me what this is.

• 5:08Adam Sosnick?

  And it's like.

• 5:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Lithium Americas.

• 5:12Adam Sosnick?

  We'll get you thunder down under for your next birthday.

• 5:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Shares surged 90% as Trump requested. This war between Tom and Adam is real, folks. It's not an act. They really don't like each other. Every time when we leave, our security comes in the middle. Yep. Tom leaves this way, Adam leaves this way. If not, it's a fight breaks out every single time.

• 5:29Adam Sosnick?

  To be honest, I'm actually the scared one. I'm the one that hired the security.

• 5:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom knows jujitsu.

• 5:33Adam Sosnick?

  Netflix boss.

• 5:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You see his ear, the cauliflower ears on top.

• 5:38Adam Sosnick?

  You've never seen Tom's ears, yeah.

• 5:39Patrick Bet-David?

  He knows jujitsu.

• 5:41Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly.

• 5:41Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're Jewish, so. Netflix boss, top Dem donor, Reed Hastings praises Trump. We have to hit this story with Indian politicians really, really upset over Trump's $100,000 fee on H1B visa. Charlie Cook suspects trans lover has vanished. Vanished, like disappeared. Yeah. Shaken neighbors share fresh fears as new photos show abandoned home. And by the way, some new things that came out with videos and stuff that we're gonna go through with you and digging and putting something in a hat and George Zin, just this thing keeps continuing and continuing and continuing.

• 6:22Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, maybe they could have covered up John F. Kennedy assassination. Maybe they could have covered up MLK's assassination. Maybe they could have covered up RFK, his assassination. Because there was one thing missing back then in the 60s. You know what it was? Cell phones. This wasn't there. And today, you got 3,500 people going like this. Like, you think you're not gonna catch what's going on there, guys? It's like, does the place have cameras? Yeah, it's got 3,500 cameras. People that are recording everything. So anyways, I don't know what's going on there. We'll definitely talk about it. You remember the Coldplay where that CEO was hanging out with the HR's, what do you call it? Yeah, of course. Director of HR. He couldn't escape. And they were hanging out together. Well, guess what? The story gets even more spicier.

• 7:05Patrick Bet-David?

  The lady who was the HR lady, her husband was there with his mistress. Who'd stop it? You didn't know? Yeah. It's such a great story.

• 7:15Adam Sosnick?

  We have a great movie clip. We dug it up.

• 7:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Truly a show is what it is. But listen. Where was that show? What city? Where were you, Adam? Where were you? Justice Department. I'll tell you where I was, not listening to Coldplay. Yeah, well, Eric Adams. Oh, was that where he drew the line? We're gonna go through that. Okay, housing, 500,000 homes, we're gonna talk about that. But what is this story about owners of Radio Shack, Pier One Imports, and other brands accused by SEC of operating a $112 million Ponzi scheme? Whoa, was that our friend in it? I think so, but let's not jump to conclusions. Ty Lopez and Alex, we'll talk about it, but we'll see what's going on there. Fed governor installed by Trump's outlines, bold case to slash interest rates, we got that. Ray J, you guys ready for this one?

• 8:01Patrick Bet-David?

  This is Tom's top story. Ray J makes shocking claim he's helping feds build a case against Kim Kardashian and Kris Jenner. I don't know why Tom's interested in it, but we have to talk about that.

• 8:12Adam Sosnick?

  And Tom watched all the videos of research to find out where Jay-Z.

• 8:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Every one of them. We know who did. We know who here did. I'm not gonna mention his name. Watching a lot of Kim Kardashian videos, saying, you can't tell me 100% of men haven't seen the Kim Kardashian video. I'm like, yeah, many haven't, but you have, and I respect it. I mean, he's got a good game. National security. But, okay, so butt lifts in Miami. Adam? Breast implants. Yep. In Beverly Hills. Ready for you, Pat. Plastic surgery by region. They're looking at what part of the country focuses on butt implants, breast, and then rhinoplasty. We can't, you gotta give shout out to the rhinoplasty folks, guys. You gotta watch your language when you, because some of the best rhinoplasty folks. We're gonna do our research on that one, Pat. And then Peter Thiel, everyone's wondering, why does this guy keep talking about Antichrist? Why he want us to think about the Antichrist stuff?

• 9:02Patrick Bet-David?

  What is it? Is it like, we gotta give our life to Christ even faster? I don't know. But there's a bunch of other stories that maybe we'll get into. Obama's trolling a bunch of old men. He's not happy with you guys, old men.

• 9:13Tom Ellsworth?

  He's just bitter.

• 9:14Patrick Bet-David?

  He's just not happy with all the grumpy old men, according to him. We'll share that. And then a few other things that we got here as well. On top of that, folks, for her take. If you or somebody you know, Rob, just put the link below if you don't mind. Put the link below if you want to nominate anybody. I got swamped by so many messages. I'll nominate myself. I'll nominate myself. I'll nominate myself. If you have anybody that you recommend, we now have a list of over 100 ladies that would like to be on her take. And we're excited about it. We're gonna build that into a top show for 2027, 2028. And very, very excited about that show.

• 9:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And I think it's gonna turn to something very special. We had a very good Zoom yesterday talking about what the plans are with the show. What happened? What happened, Tom?

• 10:04Tom Ellsworth?

  No, what you were talking about.

• 10:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, okay. So, and so having said that, for those of you guys that would like to nominate somebody, you can simply go to this form, put their name down, and the biggest thing for us is, guys, this person needs to have influence. You know, some of you guys are puddings. I've never posted a video on YouTube before. I've never done anything, but I think I would be great. We need folks that have experience doing this. So if there's anybody you like that you want to nominate, put their names there, or if it's yourself and you're somebody that you have, you've done a lot of content and you want to be part of the show, we'd love to talk to you. We're looking for the host. We're looking for co-host. We're looking for co-hosts. Because we're gonna have a rotation, because a lot of people live in different places. But the person that would be the main host, we need that person to be in South Florida.

• 10:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Because we want to drive a lot of eyeballs to her take. This was one of the biggest weeks of eyeballs going to her take. And it's a phenomenal, phenomenal concept that we're excited about long-term. So again, Rob, did you put the link in comments section in the description?

• 11:06Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's also pinned, yep.

• 11:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Fantastic. Just go, click on a link, nominate anybody you think would be good on that show. We would love to speak with them. Okay. Having said that, let's get right into it. All right. So, James Comey.

• 11:21Patrick Bet-David?

  You wake up one morning and you read a story. Justice Department seeks to indict former FBI Director James Comey for allegedly lying to Congress. Now, why would he lie to Congress, Vinny? Huh. I mean, do you believe he is capable of lying to Congress? Not, not, not James Comey. Why would he do such a thing? You're talking to Congress. Yeah. You're the Director of FBI. Okay, let me read this and then we got some clips here to show you. I know a lot of you guys are worried about this. So the Justice Department is seeking to indict Director Comey for perjury as the deadline for bringing charges looms. Fox News has learned the probe into Comey Centers is whether he lied to Congress on September 30th, 2020,

• 12:04Patrick Bet-David?

  testimony about his handling of investigation to Russian offenders in the 2016 US Presidential Election. Which, Rob, I think that's the clip right there that you have, right? The one that they're claiming if he did or not. Go ahead and play the clip and I'll read the rest.

• 12:17Speaker 06

  There should be no fuzz on this whatsoever. The Russians interfered in our election during 2016.

• 12:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You better be right when you say something like that.

• 12:26Speaker 06

  They did it with purpose. They did it with sophistication. They did it with overwhelming technical efforts. And it was an active measures campaign driven from the top of that government. There is no fuzz on that. It is a high confidence judgment of the entire intelligence community. And, and the members of this committee have seen the intelligence. It's not a close call. That happened. That's about as un-fake as you can possibly get.

• 12:50Patrick Bet-David?

  That's about un-fake.

• 12:51Speaker 06

  And it's very, very serious, which is why it's so refreshing to see a bipartisan focus on that. Because this is about America, not about any particular party.

• 12:58Patrick Bet-David?

  All right.

• 12:58Speaker 06

  So that was a hostile.

• 13:00Patrick Bet-David?

  That's how you make a statement and double down three times in the background. And you know what's great about that statement? You know when you make a statement like that? What was the date on that, Rob, by the way? That's June of 2017. When he said that? Okay. So that is Trump's been president then for how long? A year and five months? A year and four months at that time?

• 13:18Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no.

• 13:19Patrick Bet-David?

  No. Five months. Four months. Four or five months.

• 13:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Inaugurated January of 2017.

• 13:23Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right, that's right, five months, because 26 was the campaign, yes. So let me go to, under federal law prosecutors have five years to bring a charge, within a five-year mark occurring during Tuesday, the case is being handled by US Attorney's Office for Eastern District of Virginia, DOJ officials are close to deciding whether to prosecute the director Comey for allegedly lying to Congress on September 2020. A source said there's a grand jury underway looking at the matter in Virginia. Decision could come any day. The extent of the potential charges was unclear as what was, which part of his testimony could be subjected to perjury charges. President Donald Trump has criticized Comey for years over his handling of the investigation and other matters. I think they're very dishonest people. I think they're crooked as hell.

• 14:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump said in July about Comey and CIA Director John Brennan, and maybe they have to pay a price for that. Trump eventually fired Comey in 2017. Is this a new tweet, Rob? Yes, last night. Perfect. Justice in America, one of the worst human beings this country has ever been exposed to is James Comey, the former corrupt head of the FBI. Today he was indicted by grand jury of two felony counts for various illegal and lawful acts. He has been so bad for our country for so long and is now at the beginning of being held responsible for his crimes against our nation. Make America Great Again. Tom, your thoughts on the story here?

• 14:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's a couple of things here. First of all, they're coming up on the deadline, but it shows you that below the surface, they were investigating this. So Vinny, a lot of times we were concerned, and even Adam, we were talking about this, about we were concerned, are they doing anything? Is Cash doing anything? We haven't heard about this, we haven't heard about that. Well, it turns out that, you know, below the surface, there was stuff going on, which is good, and they added grand jury. Now, the question is, do they have to rush it because they're come, get it?

• 15:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Cut off of the fight.

• 15:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh. Do they have to rush the Russia thing? Because they're coming up on a deadline, but a grand jury is a special panel. So if the grand jury says, yeah, I think we've seen enough, then it really doesn't matter about the deadline. And if it's coincidentally, the five-year deadline means a grand jury has come to the end of it and said, there's enough here. Two things we're going to watch out for. Which jurisdiction will the case be in? And now we've got Virginia, which is kind of a wince. Eastern District of Virginia is a liberal jurisdiction. And then what judge will be on the case? Because who appoints all, most all of these judges in these areas? Presidents. So who appointed this judge?

• 15:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Now we know that judges do lean politically a lot. So that's going to be the question. The third item is, when you step back on this, some legal scholars last night, while I was reading, and they were like, it's basically, he is the leader of the FBI. And so his argument will be, that was the best information I had at the moment from my entire organization, including multiple people, and I presented that to Congress. I was telling the truth about the information I had. So he's going to hide behind that a little bit, and that's how it might play out. But, that's what I think. And by the way, this is what Trump wanted. This is what I wanted to see. This is what a lot of people wanted to see.

• 16:32Tom Ellsworth?

  And I hope we can get through the fog of this and get to a real trial.

• 16:35Speaker 07

  Tom, I agree with you 100%. And listen, and I'm going to be honest. I remember how our attitude was like, hurry up, nothing's happening. I don't have, you said, have some hope, have some faith. I had to start practicing that for real. And this is, this, last night was one of the happiest. I was like, finally, now the dominoes, Tom? This is the first one. Give me one of these. Give me that, Pat. Like, it's finally, finally, some accountability. And like you said, let's see if it goes to trial, like, once it goes to trial, and he gets behind bars. Because this guy, he's been one of the key, by, excuse me, the FBI's, uh, what's it called, Tom? Emotional? No, no, yeah, Pat, just sorry. Not just coming. Their credibility, their credibility has been so damaged, and this was the freaking

• 17:19Speaker 07

  head of the snake with, thank you, Pat. Just get that out of there. But if you guys think about it, outside of all the crap that he did against Trump, do you remember what he did with the Clintons, how he was shielding Hillary for all those years, Tommy? In 2016, when he softened the language, when Hillary was doing all the email scandal and all her things that she was blatantly guilty for, he changed with, I think it was Loretta Lynch. Wiping the server. Yeah, wiping the server with a bleach bit. They said that she, James Comey with Loretta Lynch changed the verbiage of her indictment, not indictment, but they said, they went from grossly negligent, which implies criminality, to extreme carelessness. So they gave her a pass. Do you remember that? He was involved with that.

• 18:03Speaker 07

  And he signed off on Russia collusion and all that stuff. He thought he was untouchable. And now, guys, remember that cryptic message that he put with those little rocks? 8647. That, in my opinion, was like, hey, guys, get rid of his ass. Get rid of his ass because this is coming down. And mind you, there's a bunch of clips, Rob, we don't have to show them. He was bragging, bragging about what he did to General Flynn.

• 18:27Patrick Bet-David?

  How much you think this accelerated everything? How much you think this post of 8647 accelerated all of it?

• 18:35Speaker 07

  I think it played a part.

• 18:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You think it played any role?

• 18:37Speaker 07

  Yes, it did.

• 18:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I think so as well.

• 18:39Speaker 07

  If you're in the background, you're in the grand jury.

• 18:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You have audacity, we don't want to do anything to you. You want to say 8647? You don't think we know what that means? No problem. Okay, you want to play that game? Boom, you're being indicted.

• 18:49Speaker 07

  100%. 100%.

• 18:51Patrick Bet-David?

  And no, we don't know what 8647 means. Yeah, nobody knows. It's just an innocent bunch of shells.

• 18:55Speaker 07

  He stumbled, he stumbled upon that when he was walking with his wife. And you know what's crazy, too? The whole family is having a lot of stuff going on. His daughter, Maureen Comey, was fired with the whole Epstein situation. And then, his son-in-law, who prosecuted all the January 6ers, which I know we're going to get into that, too, he resigned his position as Assistant U.S. Attorney after his father-in-law. That's the letter right there. "To uphold my oath to my father-in-law, get rid of Constitution and country, I hereby resign as the Assistant United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia and the Department of Justice, effective immediately." Good. The trash is taking out. Itself, I'm so freaking happy that they're starting to do it, but guess what?

• 19:36Speaker 07

  I want the other ones, the Hillarys, the Obamas, the Brennans. Yeah, I want all of them to go. Tom, Tom, so inside the FBI, who flips?

• 19:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Ah, great question. I think, you know what? You only need one or two people inside the FBI eye to have actually a conscience about this.

• 19:53Speaker 07

  Weird.

• 19:53Tom Ellsworth?

  And to flip. And now you've got a new administration and you've got Cash Patel there. I believe that they probably are already have some names and they have some people that are gonna be like, hey, you know, there's been things coming out in the last few days, some of which Trump will want to hear, some of which he won't want to hear.

• 20:09Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 20:09Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, somebody on Epstein is not something he wants to hear. And then this, I think we're gonna see some people flip inside the FBI.

• 20:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, Rob ran a poll and our audience is generally fair. When they vote for certain things, some of the things they're gonna be like, no, they disagree with us, right? Ran a poll, 4,000 people have voted, is James Comey guilty? What do you think the percentage is? Don't pull it up, Rob.

• 20:31Tom Ellsworth?

  92%.

• 20:31Adam Sosnick?

  It's not gonna be pretty for Comey.

• 20:33Patrick Bet-David?

  92 is high. What do you think it is?

• 20:35Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll go 85.

• 20:36Adam Sosnick?

  Can you go higher than 100?

• 20:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so you guys are good.

• 20:38Speaker 07

  80?

• 20:38Patrick Bet-David?

  It's 95.5.

• 20:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 20:40Speaker 07

  95?

• 20:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Open it up, Rob.

• 20:42Speaker 08

  For some reason, it's not loading.

• 20:43Patrick Bet-David?

  It's 95% yes, he's guilty.

• 20:46Speaker 07

  Good God, good for you.

• 20:48Patrick Bet-David?

  5% he's not. To the 5% that they say they're not, we thank you for joining this podcast. We'd love to meet you.

• 20:55Speaker 07

  We love you guys.

• 20:56Patrick Bet-David?

  The 5%.

• 20:56Speaker 07

  But can I say one thing before we go to Adam? Like, what, what can we do, guys? What can you do, Tom? I know it's almost impossible, but the bias that we saw from him openly, openly, Trump hater him. The openly-

• 21:10Patrick Bet-David?

  What can you do?

• 21:11Speaker 07

  What can we do to stop, meaning, can we do it to where you guys can't vote? If you have voted, I'm sorry, you can't, because you are internally like, dude, Andy McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, if you saw the, because I was, I was that guy, Pat. I was sat there and watched all, everything that had to do with Trump and Russia and everything. These people were blatantly messaging each other, saying, we need an insurance policy. He's not gonna be the president. It'd be the worst thing. And when he was messaging Lisa Page, this is like, just, he was like, no, no, we're gonna stop him. We're gonna stop the president. And it's like, what kind of insanity, like, we, that, this is that deep state.

• 21:48Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're sane, what can you do?

• 21:49Speaker 07

  Yeah, what can we do to not let this happen again?

• 21:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Every 90 days, when we ran the insurance company, we would publicly terminate a few agents. That we're doing wrongdoings.

• 21:59Adam Sosnick?

  Good.

• 22:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Just to make a statement to everybody.

• 22:01Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, good.

• 22:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, no forgery, none of this, you're out. This person, and we would say the names.

• 22:05Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, beautiful.

• 22:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, and then it went from having to do it every 90 days to having to do it every six months, to having to do it once a year. But no matter how much you do it, people still think they can get away with it.

• 22:16Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 22:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Right? We just had a lawsuit for a couple of our guys for 6.2 million dollars. They thought they could get away with it, and they're still doing it.

• 22:23Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 22:23Patrick Bet-David?

  And one of them was served, and the other one wasn't served. And the other one that wasn't served, the lawyer said, just write an article in the local paper to let their names know, because that's where you're gonna be able to serve them.

• 22:31Adam Sosnick?

  Poof.

• 22:31Patrick Bet-David?

  But even though you do that, even there's another guy behind them that did something that we have. So you can, no matter what you do, to teach people to not do stupid things, there's always somebody around the corner that thinks they're smart, that they're not gonna get caught.

• 22:46Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 22:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, and no one's gonna find out about what I did. You know, almost like the, you know, what do you call it, like, who is that, the movie Homeless?

• 22:55Adam Sosnick?

  Home Alone?

• 22:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Home Alone, right. What was it?

• 22:57Adam Sosnick?

  The two guys?

• 22:58Patrick Bet-David?

  The two guys? The Wet Bandits. The Wet Bandits, right? Like, stuff like that.

• 23:04Adam Sosnick?

  Sticky Bandits?

• 23:05Patrick Bet-David?

  You think they can get away with it, right? And then you're like, wait a minute, what are you talking about? You just took these guys for 104,000 dollars, then they come back and get you. So, these types of things happen. However, however, Adam, I'm gonna go to you, then I'm gonna come to James O'Keefe, send a clip about what happened with the guy that he talked to, which is absolutely, so I think the transition's perfect into that. Go ahead, go ahead.

• 23:25Adam Sosnick?

  Well, you talked about James Comey and the whole 86-47 thing. We didn't hear for James Comey forever, and then all of a sudden he does the 86-47 thing as he's promoting his book. Here's what Elon Musk had to say about.

• 23:38Adam Sosnick?

  F A F O, Mr. Comey. So, he's gonna...

• 23:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Elon's hilarious.

• 23:43Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, James Comey is gonna have his day in court. We're gonna find out if he's guilty or not, but I'm gonna rush to judgment on one thing. So... Gaslighting the public. This is something that we're gonna need to address. This whole Russia hoax. James Comey, you're gonna have to owe me and millions of Americans, at the very least, an apology. Because I remember watching that thing in 2017 and being like, oh, my God. They got Trump with Russia. He said the following words. We have high intelligence that Russia interfered with the election. It's not even a close call. He said, there is no fuzz on this. And now, 10 years later, it may be a fact that it's all just been fabricated?

• 24:28Adam Sosnick?

  How many people have felt for the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax? I did. How many people still have TDS, Trump Derangement Syndrome? And their, it's their brain is hemorrhaging because they see Trump and they freak out because of people like this. Whether it's the media, whether it's the intelligence community, whether it's universities, whatever it is, we gotta have some accountability here because our country is reeling right now. And it's the people that we depend on, the intelligence community. Thank you. To basically give some credibility here. And they've gaslit us to think that Trump is a Russian asset.

• 25:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have this picture because, because Mr. Comey is waiting to jump on a podcast? Because it looks like he's lying.

• 25:08Speaker 00

  No, this is his video response last night.

• 25:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let's see it.

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• 26:11Speaker 06

  My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump. Shut up. But we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. Oh, really? We will not live on our knees, and you shouldn't either. Somebody that I love dearly recently-

• 26:27Speaker 07

  What does that even mean? What is "on your knees"? No, Pat, no. Praying? Yeah.

• 26:32Patrick Bet-David?

  What's he talking about, Ron?

• 26:32Speaker 07

  I don't know.

• 26:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Didn't Lewinsky say the same thing?

• 26:34Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, but what is he talking about?

• 26:36Speaker 08

  Go ahead. I believe he's referencing bending the knee as if he's bending down to a dictator.

• 26:42Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 26:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, like-

• 26:43Speaker 07

  It's innuendo. Innuendo, like, like master-

• 26:47Tom Ellsworth?

  So he's refusing to bend down to a dictator?

• 26:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Bend the knee?

• 26:51Speaker 07

  Not like that.

• 26:51Patrick Bet-David?

  In the window?

• 26:52Speaker 07

  Innu-

• 26:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Like the euthanasia?

• 26:54Speaker 07

  Yeah. Yes, a lot of you-

• 26:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Focus on the euthanasia.

• 26:57Speaker 07

  Youth in Asia.

• 26:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Euthanasia.

• 26:58Speaker 07

  What's so euthanasia? I've been doing innuendo-

• 27:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I tell you this, I have a hard time with these types, and when they say stuff like this, start from the beginning, go.

• 27:09Speaker 06

  My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump. But we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. We will not live on our knees, and you shouldn't either. Somebody that I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool of a tyrant, and she's right. But I'm not afraid. Ooh. And I hope you're not either. Yeah. I hope instead you are engaged, you are paying attention, and you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does.

• 27:45Speaker 07

  They better raise their roof on the jail cell.

• 27:47Speaker 06

  My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and I'm innocent.

• 27:55Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 27:55Speaker 06

  So let's have a trial.

• 27:56Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 27:57Speaker 06

  And keep the faith.

• 27:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's have a trial.

• 28:00Speaker 07

  Is that Batman? No, but notice this, notice how he's making, nobody's kicking down his door, no CNN, there's no cameras, it's all nice and polite, and mind you, Pat, this is the same FBI that just admitted yesterday that they had 275 plainclothes agents walking around on January 6th. Really? What were you guys doing? And other ones actually said like, listen, we didn't start anything, but we were, some of us were aggressive and pushing it. Look at that. 200, what were 275 agents doing January 6th? Cause there's videos of them that look like feds with a mask pack, breaking windows, breaking shit. It's like enough, everything that we said was, we were right.

• 28:37Tom Ellsworth?

  You are so right, Vinny. And by the way, I'll just add one thing to you. Remember you were always suspicious about the 40 khaki guys that would all wear the same khakis? And they, and the masks and the flags and they would walk down the thing and like saying angry things, trying to start riots. Guess what?

• 28:53Speaker 07

  Look, Tom, look at this. Like they brought the protester, look, give me some dap, agent. Thank you, bro. I did my job. What, what unbelievable. This is the same FBI guys. They've been corrupt forever and I'm. What is this video? What is this? This is in January 6th, Adam, they grabbed the guy that's a protester, protester. And then they handc, look at it, look how nice they're treating this guy. Why would you let him go? Why would you let him go?

• 29:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Because he's one of them and they're fist bumping.

• 29:17Speaker 07

  Exactly.

• 29:18Tom Ellsworth?

  They were acting in their own play.

• 29:21Speaker 07

  The chickens have come home to roofs. How many times? You know, you know, people say, I don't like to say, I told you so. I actually do, because we told you so. Period. Told you so.

• 29:32Tom Ellsworth?

  I do.

• 29:32Speaker 07

  We're gonna have a new podcast called, I Told You So.

• 29:35Tom Ellsworth?

  First we have COVID, then we have Fauci, then we have, then we have January 6th.

• 29:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Why don't we do this? Why don't we go to that and, uh, uh, and see about this next situation with James, uh,

• 29:46Tom Ellsworth?

  James O'Keefe.

• 29:47Patrick Bet-David?

  James O'Keefe.

• 29:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Shout out to James O'Keefe.

• 29:49Patrick Bet-David?

  James O'Keefe, man, these guys, the way they do things, but let me tell you, he is, uh, they're very good at what they do. How they get these dates and whatever places they focus on, they're phenomenal at what they do. So here's, here's Glenn Prager, no relation to Dennis, but Glenn Prager, Jeffrey Epstein's investigator, Department of Justice, is being interviewed on September 8th, asked questions. And you have to see what he says about Clinton, Epstein and Trump. Listen to this, folks.

• 30:22Speaker 09

  But I've seen him come out that he was a CIA asset.

• 30:26Speaker 10

  He was a CIA?

• 30:27Speaker 09

  He wasn't a CIA. I think he's protecting a lot of other people. He's not protecting himself because there's nothing there. But he's protecting a lot of people. Because Trump's now saying it's a hoax, that he's like a hoax or something. I mean, you know it's not a hoax. He's been on the plane, you know, many times. It's just he was never on the plane with the kids. Bingo. I've seen the itineraries and I've interviewed all the victims. There's never been an instance where Trump was on a plane with these kids. And a rape occurred. Boom. But that can't be said for Clinton. Wow. That can't be said for Obama. Wow. Damn. Clinton was on the plane. Wow.

• 31:03Speaker 11

  Overheard at Phoenix Airport on September 8th, 2025, a senior Justice Department investigator who personally worked on the Epstein case tells all. Glenn Prager, who has reviewed Epstein itineraries and has interviewed Epstein's victims, drops a bombshell. He says that the DOJ did not want to go after Epstein because he's a CIA asset. That the evidence from his investigation confirms that Bill Clinton was present for alleged rapes on the Lolita Express and that President Trump was not present for the rapes that Glenn Prager investigated. But that he is protecting a lot of other people that were.

• 31:44Speaker 10

  How about this whole, um, this whole Epstein thing? That's like...

• 31:48Speaker 09

  I worked on that case. I used to interview all the victims. Victims? And my picture was 20 to 30 victims, you know, in each that I was interviewing and they were like, and stuff like that. And then we would go, ready to go to trial. They would flip. They would flip. Epstein would just pay them off. And they were just like little kids. And they'd pay off their fam- they're all broke kids. Broke kids, broke families. So you pay them off like anywhere from a hundred fifty to five hundred thousand dollars. Nothing. And that guy's...

• 32:19Speaker 11

  Prager there describes how the victims that he interviewed were paid off by Epstein right before going to trial. Prager has worked as an investigator inside the Department of Justice for over 20 years. According to Prager's LinkedIn About page, it says that during the tenure at DOJ, Prager served as an inspector overseeing sensitive investigations of all DOJ components, including the FBI, DEA.

• 32:46Speaker 11

  Bureau of Prisons, US Marshal Service, ATF, and the US Attorney's Offices. This seems to corroborate what Prager told us. He was tasked with interviewing Epstein's rape victims and investigating flight logs. On his backpack in the airport, we spotted an embroidered FBI patch, which caught the attention of our citizen journalist.

• 33:07Speaker 09

  I'll tell you this, because no, no, it's not talked about yet, but it's soon to come out that he was a CIA agent.

• 33:14Speaker 11

  He was a CIA agent.

• 33:15Speaker 09

  He wasn't a CIA agent.

• 33:16Speaker 11

  Although many have suspected it to be the case, this is the first time a Department of Justice official has confirmed that Epstein worked for the CIA and is a foreign asset.

• 33:27Speaker 07

  Foreign asset.

• 33:28Speaker 09

  Ready? The settlement case, where we're just letting him, you know, do house arrest. And they minimize his arrest. Part of that is because all the victims kept on flipping and they didn't have anyone to go to trial with. More importantly, the hardest thing to go after, he's a, you know, he's an asset.

• 33:47Speaker 07

  And Israel for the CIA. Wow.

• 33:53Speaker 07

  So that's intelligence, when they said, when they said, when Alice DiCasa said, "We can't touch him because he works for intelligence", if this guy's telling the truth, CIA is real. Why would he? Well, I mean, you know what they're gonna say? I'm gonna play devil's advocate. He's, there's a beautiful girl, I don't know what she looks like, and he's just trying to show off, but with that type of in-depth, that type of stuff, because guess what? You can fact-check, you can find out what he's been doing. Go look back, did he talk to all these girls? If that's, if that's true, and he's saying this, that, this has to be admissible. Like, what are you, what are you talking about, bro? And he's saying that Bill Clinton allegedly was on there when there was rapes? Rapes, not sexual, just having sex on the plane. Rapes, meaning people were against their will and these girls were screaming and fighting. That's what this guy is freaking saying.

• 34:38Tom Ellsworth?

  I think things are more simple than they are complicated. And if it is as simple as Epstein was an informant in intelligence, that explains the sweetheart deal. That explains why nobody did anything. And that explains why there were frames missing in the Zep Ruder film at the moment of the, I mean, excuse me, the jail film. Same thing.

• 34:58Speaker 07

  Yeah, and Rob, you have the DOJ a statement? They made a statement.

• 35:01Adam Sosnick?

  No, here's what James O'Keefe texted me, because I was like, Because he's like, please play this. He said, I love to talk to Pat. Rob, I sent you an image of what James O'Keefe sent me. Do you have that yet?

• 35:11Speaker 07

  Yep. Yeah.

• 35:11Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 35:12Speaker 07

  Because by the DOJ responded yesterday.

• 35:14Adam Sosnick?

  What do you think will happen? So this is per O'Keefe.

• 35:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Did he say you can share this? Close this, Rob.

• 35:21Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. Yeah, this was their statement.

• 35:23Speaker 07

  No, this is the DOJ.

• 35:25Adam Sosnick?

  This was the DOJ statement.

• 35:27Speaker 07

  You can go to the official DOJ statement if you want, Rob.

• 35:30Adam Sosnick?

  Copy and paste the statement.

• 35:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Perfect. That's all I want to show. Go ahead.

• 35:33Adam Sosnick?

  So this is, the first part is the statement. This individual worked at the Department of Justice as a program analyst for over fif- over 15 years ago. He has no understanding or access to the underlying facts in this investigation. His statement should not be considered accurate. It is disgusting that someone would further exploit victims of sexual abuse by fabricating stories for their personal benefit. So this was the Department of Justice's statement. To which, these are facts that our friend O'Keefe had to say. During his tenure at the DOJ, Mr. Prager served as the inspector overseeing sensitive investigations involving major DOJ components, including the FBI, DEA, Bureau of Prisons, US Marshal Service, ATF, and the US.

• 36:18Adam Sosnick?

  So meaning, this guy has some credibility. Whereas, the DOJ is saying he has no credibility.

• 36:24Tom Ellsworth?

  So, but who do you trust? Thank you for the fine. May I take us to a sentence, Adam? Great find here. Watch this.

• 36:33Tom Ellsworth?

  His statement should not be considered accurate. That is not the same as saying his statements are not accurate. This is the wordsmithing that is happening when your government speaks, folks. You gotta get into the parsing. His statement should not be considered accurate. They're not telling you it's not accurate. They're saying they shouldn't be considered accurate.

• 36:54Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 36:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Because he wasn't close enough. And it's terrible that he would further exploit. One-third of the statement is a float. Wow, it's a shame that an ex-employee would be exploiting something like this. Why don't you come out and say, he wasn't on the case, this is not accurate, this is a bold-faced lie, thank you very much? Because they can't say that.

• 37:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So who is "they"? The statement from justice. Who runs DOJ? Well, whoever the Department of Justice folks. Who runs it? Pam Bondi is the highest ranking, Pat. She's number one. So, so, let me ask you, Tom. Let me ask you, Tom. Can, can a person respond like that without the permission of Pam Bondi? I wouldn't think so. Okay, so is that response, what percentage of that response was approved by Pam Bondi? Uh, I gotta, I gotta go. 8.1 million views on X. There's such, there's such. How many views, Pat? 8.1 million views on X. I'm gonna go 50/50 that it got all the way to Bondi, that this is, they have an office that responds on this really quick. And what is the likelihood that this goes all the way up? All the way up, like, maybe even talking to Cash, talking to President, what is the likelihood?

• 38:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I would say with James O'Keefe's credibility, this goes all the way up with high certainty. Okay. Not, not 100%. So, for me, for me, guys, for me, the way I've, I've always seen this thing with Epstein, is I've always seen it as, uh, uh, look, look, look, what, look what the President, how, how ice cold would you say the President is? Pretty ice cold. Well, give me ice cold, 0 to 100. In, in the sense of just not giving a damn. Ice cold, somebody dies, emotions, cold. I would say he's up there, probably the best. What score, above 90? Above 90. I give him above 90 as well, okay. He's not the most empathetic guy. Is he ice cold Putin, or is he ice cold little less than Putin? Less than Putin. Okay. A little bit less. For sure. So, so, let me, let me ask you.

• 38:43Patrick Bet-David?

  In his eyes, okay, everything that happened with these kids, that happened, okay, do you think he's happy about that? Absolutely not. I don't think he's happy about that. He's a grandfather, he's got kids, he's got all that other stuff. Do you think in his mind, he looks at this and says, Gates, Clinton, all these guys will be more useful to me if this doesn't leak, because I can use them for the next four years and I can hand it over to the next person, that's gonna be a President for 2028 election? Do you think he sits there and says, okay, honestly, let's have a very ice cold conversation, no emotion, can we do that? To, to all the people that are all emotion, the, the, step this one out, just don't, don't listen to this conversation, Rokoi. Okay, play solitary or something, but we'll come back to it. So.

• 39:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Ice cold conversation and ice cold thinking.

• 39:32Speaker 07

  I'm putting myself there.

• 39:33Patrick Bet-David?

  I want you to do ice cold thinking, you're 90 and up for the next two minutes.

• 39:37Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 39:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay?

• 39:38Speaker 07

  Got you.

• 39:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny?

• 39:39Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 39:39Patrick Bet-David?

  This is what happened.

• 39:41Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 39:41Patrick Bet-David?

  It happened.

• 39:42Speaker 07

  I'm the president.

• 39:42Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you are not, I'm the president, I'm talking to you, you're one of my guys on my team.

• 39:46Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 39:46Patrick Bet-David?

  That maybe you have a lot of conscience, you're a man of faith.

• 39:49Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 39:49Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're having a hard time with this.

• 39:50Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 39:51Patrick Bet-David?

  It happened.

• 39:52Speaker 07

  Okay. Yeah.

• 39:54Patrick Bet-David?

  This is exactly what happened, however, question for you.

• 39:57Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 39:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is the enemy of the states? Let me tell you what Clintons did.

• 40:01Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 40:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you what all these guys did. All these things that we have with our investigation, they were part of this.

• 40:06Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 40:07Patrick Bet-David?

  We have one of two choices. Release this now to the public and they're gonna continue to be the enemy to the country, come back to us, or we hold them hostage for the rest of their lives, that they can't do anything to destroy this country. We keep that White House with our values and principles for the next 12 years and bring America back and make it the greatest country in the world again, but it's gonna require us to hold some of these guys hostage. If you're an ice cold thinker, you got the ice cold hat on, how do you think right now?

• 40:39Speaker 07

  If I'm ice cold?

• 40:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Ice cold.

• 40:40Speaker 07

  If I'm ice cold, that would be a great chess move to keep this positivity that we have as America going great, to keep it going. Oh, if I'm ice cold?

• 40:51Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to be ice cold.

• 40:52Speaker 07

  I'm like, let's do that.

• 40:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 40:54Speaker 07

  Let's do that, we have the kill switch basically, we're in control.

• 40:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Whatever you say after here, guess what? It's totally understandable. Now flipping, don't be ice cold.

• 41:02Speaker 07

  Yeah. If it's not, if I'm not ice cold?

• 41:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Be yourself.

• 41:05Speaker 07

  If I'm gonna be myself, you know I would say, and I've said this statement before, let justice be done, though the heavens fall. We cannot be a nation, a Christian nation, and have it built on sexual blackmail of raping underage pedophile leaders of these children, because if that's what we're built on, it's going to fall, and it's gonna fall hard, but not right now. So I would say to clean house and make everything happen, regardless of the consequences, we gotta expose them. This is being the Vincent O'Shaughnessy Christian guy.

• 41:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Now the question becomes.

• 41:39Speaker 07

  I put them out there.

• 41:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Now the question becomes, now the question becomes, long term, what is the better move long term for America?

• 41:47Speaker 07

  It's the cold ice. Obviously, it's ice cold. Ice cold is for the America system to keep going.

• 41:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I am gonna tell you something that's gonna contradict my own self, okay? And here's what it is. I, I, I think.

• 42:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I think there has to be, remember how earlier I talked about every three months we used to, you know, terminate one of our agents just to make sure everybody know we're not gonna do business like this?

• 42:12Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 42:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And in many of the cases, our lawyers would report, report to the Department of Insurance and they would tell every carrier by you as an agent, who you are. So no one's picking you up. You're done permanently for 10 years. So.

• 42:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I do think.

• 42:28Patrick Bet-David?

  There has to be, to, to, to, happy medium, if they're watching. This is how I would do it. The happy medium for me would be the following.

• 42:38Patrick Bet-David?

  What is the punishment right now for? Rob, what is the punishment right now? For a 40-year-old man? To have sex with a 13-year-old girl, which many of these girls were. 14-year-old girl, 13-year-old girl. What is the punishment right now?

• 42:57Speaker 07

  If convicted?

• 42:58Patrick Bet-David?

  If convicted, what is the punishment?

• 43:00Speaker 07

  I'm gonna say five to 10 years. Oh, I would hopefully, it's way worse than that.

• 43:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I wanna see what it is. I wanna see what it is.

• 43:06Speaker 07

  If convicted, five to 10, let's see.

• 43:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Because to me, there's a couple of things you have to do.

• 43:12Speaker 07

  Is it?

• 43:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, one.

• 43:14Speaker 07

  It might be saying it's gonna be two.

• 43:16Patrick Bet-David?

  One, it's by states, okay? States choose, federal law, use of internet to transport child, not coercion, just contains, okay, but I wanna know what is the sex film, what is it?

• 43:27Speaker 07

  Oh, there is up to 15 years.

• 43:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Up to 15 years.

• 43:30Speaker 07

  Up to 40 years in prison.

• 43:31Patrick Bet-David?

  In Pennsylvania, rape of a child less than 13 can bring 40 years in prison. Many states. Statutory rape or sexual assault felony, prison confinement is several decades. And so provides at 13 years old, and then the other one's 43 months, okay?

• 43:43Speaker 07

  Yeah, the average statutory rape is 43 months. So Vinny was actually accurate.

• 43:48Patrick Bet-David?

  To me, what I would do is there has to be such a level of fear.

• 43:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Like if there are some of these men that were doing child trafficking with young girls, 10 years old, 9 years old, 13 years old, there has to be such a massive public fear that is casted on those people to not be like, you know, these videos, they go around catch guys at Walmart in different places? And those videos go viral and their careers are over with? I think there needs to be an example made of a group of people to put the fear of death upon everybody else.

• 44:24Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 44:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So you gotta do, if you're gonna go this route and you're gonna hold this content hostage, because you have control of Bill Clinton and others, let's just say that's the case, you have to put the fear of death upon everybody on the opposite side. They're like, ah, let me think twice about it. Whether it's public, it has to be something where it's public humiliation. For any man who gets caught doing this, it's a form of recognition. We're gonna, we're gonna put your picture and publicly make sure everybody knows you did this. Like, there needs to be a

• 44:58Adam Sosnick?

  You wanna shame them?

• 44:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Form of recognition. Do this again, see what happens to you. There has to be. And then on the, because there's certain things, forgiveness is, you know, and then, and then on the flip side, if you're gonna go ice cold on the other guys? Well, then you better make a lot of progress and show us stuff like this with Comey and stuff to move forward. Because you can't do one without the other. If you choose to do neither, then you lose your base. Not all of them, but you lose 2% of your base. And 2% is a lot. And for 2028, you're gonna need these guys. Because what we are learning right now, you know, is what's important to, what is the influence kids are having on elections today? A lot. What is the influence TikToks having on elections today? We just saw Charlie Kirk's memorial. How many people showed up?

• 45:42Patrick Bet-David?

  100,000 people showed up. You think that's validating what 2028 election is gonna be about? And who you need to win over? Those people are on social media and X. So if you don't do anything, they're gonna keep talking, Adam.

• 45:52Adam Sosnick?

  Well, you just highlighted what I would call the paradox of what is right versus what is wrong and what is, what should you do about it? Vina and I had a conversation, probably a month ago, and I said, if you found out what do you think is true? And, you know, you do the Wizard of Oz thing and you see it. And

• 46:10Adam Sosnick?

  It would basically cause the government or the city to burn down. You're gonna burn the whole, you said burn the whole thing. I said, then you'd be ruling a city of ashes. Is that what we're willing to do? Here's what I would say, PBD. You talk about the public humiliation. I have a different suggestion. I would almost say private humiliation. If it, if it means burning the whole country down, I'm not in favor of that. We're being ice cold for a second. But in private, if you find out these people are guilty, you don't need a public humiliation. You need a private castration. And if this is what these dudes are doing, low key, don't even, nobody needs to know.

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• 47:46Adam Sosnick?

  You cut it off.

• 47:46Speaker 07

  Why would you do it secretly? I would, I wouldn't do it live.

• 47:48Adam Sosnick?

  Because word will travel. Word will travel. You think secrets won't get out? Did you hear what they did to so and so? All these people are gonna talking. If it is, it is certainly.

• 47:57Speaker 07

  Cutting their bangle off.

• 47:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yup. Oh, or it could be a chemical castration, whatever it is.

• 48:01Speaker 07

  I agree.

• 48:02Adam Sosnick?

  But if they're doing that to children.

• 48:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't need public humiliation. I need you to cut that thing off and everybody's gonna find, oh, bro. That to me is a more fitting crime than shaming them publicly.

• 48:15Speaker 07

  No, I agree, but the one little caveat, no. Publicly, you say, this person was convicted. You know, hide the victim, but he's convicted, this is what he did. We're castrating and put the world up because, guys, you have to understand, these people, it's not as if you're an alcoholic and you stopped drinking and you're kind of over it and you've moved on. You know what I mean? You're not getting this disgusting pedophile out of you. Every time they see a kid, Pat, that's where they're at. And it needs to nip it in the bud, so to speak.

• 48:41Tom Ellsworth?

  It's kind of a standoff too, if you think about it. So, I agree with the notion that, okay, I got you. You know I got you. And now you need to maybe not play ball, but just not be so difficult to work with. I believe that. But I also believe goes the other side that says, look, so you're gonna, so you're gonna basically crush me. Well, on the way down, I'm gonna put some receipts up with a bunch of your guys. So you can't take, you can't, you can't take this chess piece off without me knocking some off. And by the way, remember Nixon? Historical documents and everything are now clear. Nixon felt that the

• 49:24Tom Ellsworth?

  election in 1960 was stolen, that Illinois and Texas was stolen. If you flip those back, Nixon wins the election by one electoral vote. Go the other way, Kennedy gets over 300. Okay. Nixon said, I'm not gonna tear down the country for an election. I don't think it's good for the country. And there's multiple people, Republicans and Democrats, that said there was deep respect throughout the political sphere that Nixon didn't do it because they had him. Now, you can find some protests, you can find some courts that protested things because you couldn't stop all the operatives and some of them were really pissed off. But Nixon himself said, this for the good of the country. And W supposedly also, remember every,

• 50:07Tom Ellsworth?

  how many presidents have been talking about the JFK files? Every one of them for 20 years. So W also did not think it was good for the country.

• 50:15Adam Sosnick?

  About the JFK files, now everybody's gonna put in the comments, "Yeah, that's because Papa Bush is a part of it." I don't know, but there is precedent here, Pat, where they, they kind of checkmate each other in private. They don't prosecute each other, and it's kind of a Mexican standoff.

• 50:30Speaker 07

  But can I say one last thing, Pat, and I know we want to move on? If you had to pick one name that's constantly been said about Epstein, I mean, that keeps popping up, that's been on the express, that there's photos with him with girls, that is a high-ranking guy.

• 50:42Patrick Bet-David?

  William Jefferson Clinton.

• 50:44Speaker 07

  It's Bill Clinton, okay, I don't care how, I don't care who you are, and how good he was as a president, and how good he was for the African American, I, put that aside. His name has been implicated more than, than Gates, more than any of those other freaking demons.

• 50:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 50:58Speaker 07

  All right, how i- is this guy so freaking powerful? And you're like, and, hold on, Adam, like how we said with Comey, has to fall. In this case, and I know, it never happened, one of them, Pat, I want one of those guys that was connected to Epstein to fall. That's it.

• 51:14Patrick Bet-David?

  But you know what happens.

• 51:15Adam Sosnick?

  It's never gonna happen to Bill.

• 51:16Speaker 07

  And all of them come down?

• 51:17Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, because you take one, it's like the crap theory, that guy's gonna tell on everybody.

• 51:21Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 51:21Patrick Bet-David?

  That's how that goes, so they can't do one.

• 51:23Speaker 07

  Oh, I want one.

• 51:25Patrick Bet-David?

  That guy's gonna say, "Oh yeah? Oh, really, Bill? Hi, William, how are you? Oh, you better call Donald. You be- hey, that's exactly what happens to you."

• 51:35Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, let me ask you one question.

• 51:39Adam Sosnick?

  What kind of secrets do you think a president of the United States has? Internally, domestic, globally, internationally?

• 51:47Patrick Bet-David?

  More on second term than first term.

• 51:49Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 51:49Patrick Bet-David?

  More on second term than first term.

• 51:50Adam Sosnick?

  Bill Clinton was a two-term president.

• 51:51Patrick Bet-David?

  He has a lot of them.

• 51:52Adam Sosnick?

  Obama was a two-term president.

• 51:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Joe Biden doesn't, Joe Biden is like, no.

• 51:57Adam Sosnick?

  But.

• 51:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Senior, senior has a lot of them because he was a director of CIA.

• 52:01Adam Sosnick?

  CIA?

• 52:01Patrick Bet-David?

  He probably has more than most two-term presidents.

• 52:04Adam Sosnick?

  So, the, the amount of secrets that a president has, and you want to go try to throw a president in jail? I'm just saying, they tried to do it with Trump.

• 52:12Speaker 07

  He's gonna answer to God at some point.

• 52:13Adam Sosnick?

  There's a reason that you don't see former presidents going to jail for crimes or crimes against humanity.

• 52:20Speaker 07

  But they talk to each other.

• 52:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but, but, but listen, Lula went away and Lula came back.

• 52:24Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, but Brazil's one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

• 52:27Patrick Bet-David?

  It is.

• 52:27Adam Sosnick?

  Talking about the United States of America here.

• 52:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I understand that, but let me tell you.

• 52:29Adam Sosnick?

  We have a high standard.

• 52:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think in the next, here's a good question for you. Do you think in the next hundred years, a president goes to jail?

• 52:36Adam Sosnick?

  In what country?

• 52:37Patrick Bet-David?

  US.

• 52:37Adam Sosnick?

  No, never.

• 52:38Patrick Bet-David?

  In the next 500 years?

• 52:39Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 52:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You're saying never?

• 52:41Adam Sosnick?

  I'm saying highly likely that they will not go to jail in the United States.

• 52:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So you think 500 years from now, America's still gonna be a republic?

• 52:47Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, because, I would, I would hope so. If America falls, the whole world falls.

• 52:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I know it does.

• 52:52Adam Sosnick?

  I'm convinced of that.

• 52:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I, but what I'm saying to you is, you don't think it'll eventually happen? Your, your argument makes sense, because you do that, it's embarrassing. But at the same time, if somebody crossed the line and it's that big.

• 53:03Adam Sosnick?

  What was the whole thing recently that they, uh, presidential immunity? It was the whole thing that, that Trump basically solidified?

• 53:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, to protect them, yeah.

• 53:12Adam Sosnick?

  President ain't going to jail.

• 53:13Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, can you show the poll, Rob, that you ran? Actually, I'm proud of the audience here. Can you, can you go pull up the poll here? I'm really, really impressed with the audience, how reasonable they are. So remember earlier, the Comey thing was what? 95-5. He just ran a poll right now, he says, "Do you believe President Trump is covering for Bill Clinton?" Look at that.

• 53:30Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, wow.

• 53:30Patrick Bet-David?

  It's 50-50.

• 53:32Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 53:33Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's 7, 8, that's 8,500 votes. 52-48. So, our audience to give that kind of an answer, after seeing what just happened? You guys are part of the reasonable community, and, uh, I applaud you. Stay like that, guys, this is good. We have a good audience, if you can stay balanced like this, and we're right or wrong, we can go back and forth. I don't mind it. All right, let's go to the next story here. Next story I want to get to is in regards to Jimmy Kimmel. So Jimmy Kimmel comes out and does a show. Numbers comes out, Rob, can you pull up and see what the numbers were on how, how it performed? I think it was 6+ million viewers that he had. I think it's the biggest he's either ever had, but it was a record-breaking show of the amount of viewers that he had.

• 54:16Speaker 07

  I want to say 6.4, I believe.

• 54:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, previous to that, he was doing 1.2, 1.4, 1.3. 6.26 million, significantly higher than his average, which is 1.4 to 1.8 million.

• 54:29Speaker 07

  They should fire him every day and bring him back every day.

• 54:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Fire him once, so we come back in and one day he'll get better viewers than all the others combined.

• 54:35Speaker 07

  Yeah, keep firing his out.

• 54:35Patrick Bet-David?

  So that happened, now. Trump comes out and threatens lawsuit over ABC for resuming with Kimmel. And, you know, his claims about this, I can't believe fake ABC News gave Jimmy Kimmel his job back. The White House was told by ABC that his show was canceled. Something happened between then and now because his audience is gone and his talent was never there. Why would they want someone back who does so poorly, who's not funny, who puts the network in jeopardy by playing 99% positive Democrat garbage? He is yet another arm of the DNC card. DNC and to the best of my knowledge, that would be a major legal campaign contribution. I think we're going to test ABC out on this. Let's see how we do. Last time I went after them, they gave me $16 million. This one sounds even more lucrative.

• 55:20Patrick Bet-David?

  A true bunch of losers let Jimmy Kimmel rot in his bad ratings. Bam! Yeah, let him rot in his bad ratings. And so that message, you know, to me is a slippery slope. You gotta be careful with that to go to a message like, Tom, I'll come to you first. What are your thoughts about this? One, Kimmel won over 6.2 million. Two, President Trump's still saying he wants to go after ABC. How do you process those two things?

• 55:43Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, I'm a little, a little... On the fence? On the fence on one thing. When you're president and you're going after somebody who was dishonest and bad, and what Kimmel did was, but it was one monologue on one night, and the advertisers got upset and a lot of other people got upset. So yeah, I think you kind of let that play out as a business decision. You let it play out. You let the advertisers get upset at Disney. You get Bob Iger show leadership or not show leadership, whichever side of that, you know, argument you're on. And then you let it play out.

• 56:24Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it's kind of, it's different, Pat, to say, "I so disagree with Jimmy Kimmel and his criticism of this administration. It just pisses me off because he's gaslighting America." That is different from, "I want the guy off the air." And when you kind of cross that line a little bit, you're kind of given an open door to the other side on the influence. So do I think that... That what you said the other day, that if they want to bring things, if lower the temperature and do things for late night, then maybe they should bring conservative guests on, bring a blend and that would bring ratings. Yeah, I think that. I completely agreed with what you said the other day. You said it very, very well. You laid it out

• 57:06Tom Ellsworth?

  completely and Erica Kirk, 100% agreement. But I look at this and it's like, I agree in principle with the president saying, but I think you have to be really careful about the Oval Office calling for a business decision by the network. You get, there's a little line there. Benny, your thoughts?

• 57:26Speaker 07

  I, and I, I agree with you to a certain extent, Tom, but yeah, and I, I get to this argument all the time with people, but he's the president, he's not presidential. Okay, let's put that aside. Can you blame this guy? Can we blame Donald J. Trump? And we all know who he is. Ego, this, New York. Can you blame him? Since the day he announced that he was going to run for president, people like him, every single one of these Democrat left-leaning arms of the DNC, because that's, by the way, there's no other explanation to be just hemorrhaging money and viewers and you still keep paying that guy because you need to sell the propaganda. Okay. Hitler, fascist, impeachments, Russia, everything.

• 58:08Speaker 07

  I can't even blame this guy. And it's not like he's hiding it, guys. This is who we voted for because I know exactly who he is. Even at Charlie's memorial, what'd he say? Charlie, God rest his soul, you know, I love him, he'd be praying for his enemies. I don't. He goes, I don't like them and I'm not with it. Okay. This is why we got, this is that guy that we're talking about, that ice cold that you were just talking about, PBD. This is him. And this is who he is. I get, people are going to be happy with everything that he says. This is a little bit far-reaching, but he is furious. These are the guys, these are the type of guys with the rhetoric that these guys, the Jimmy Kimmel's, the Colbert, all of them, all of them, even if it's slight, Dog Willsills, he's the reason that everybody wants to try to go after him and shoot him in the head and bully him because it's that

• 58:51Speaker 07

  rhetoric. So I'm not even mad that he's upset with that. Yeah, asking for him to get off, whatever. He can say whatever the hell he wants. He's the president. He needs, you know, they help him write these things anyway, but he gets the, the, the minor point and they help him write that out.

• 59:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam. Yeah, well, Trump's love, loves picking on enemies. You know, Michael Jordan used to always say like, you have to kind of make up an enemy in your head. This is a real-life enemy for Trump. Jimmy Kimmel is not talented, but I, I don't think that.

• 59:15Adam Sosnick?

  Trump or the federal government should get involved in trying to censor people. Even Joe Rogan agrees with me. Did you see what Rogan says about that? Rogan said he rushed to the defense of Jimmy Kimmel. He said over the joke that got pulled off the air, calling it crazy. He said, first of all, do you have that clip?

• 59:32Speaker 12

  Yep.

• 59:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I like how you put it. Did you say Joe Rogan?

• 59:35Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, Joe consulted with me on this.

• 59:37Patrick Bet-David?

  You agree with Joe Rogan?

• 59:37Adam Sosnick?

  No, Joe agreed with me. He consulted me all the time. Everyone knows that.

• 59:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I love the way.

• 59:42Adam Sosnick?

  Saznik, Rogan, David.

• 59:44Speaker 12

  We know that is happening right now.

• 59:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, wild.

• 59:48Speaker 12

  Very wild. Okay, first of all, um, the FCC is, uh, you have to have a license to broadcast, which is kind of crazy when you think about what that means now. Cause like, what does it mean? It used to mean that you used to have a license to broadcast because you were going to influence so many people. They had to make sure that you were on the up and up, right? So they had to make sure that you didn't swear. So if you had a license and you were on CBS or NBC or ABC, you could not swear, right? That was the rule. And then along came cable. And somehow or another cable is a different thing, right? Because cable, you just, you, you have to pay for it, I guess. So it's different.

• 1:00:30Speaker 12

  And so then some of the channels that you don't have to pay for, it used to be the only ones that swore were like HBO. Where you had to pay for. And then all of a sudden it became kind of any of them. Because they realized like, hey, we don't, like FX, we, we can swear, guys. Like, we really don't swear because we want to think of ourselves as TV.

• 1:00:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 1:00:49Speaker 12

  But HBO was like, you know, with The Sopranos, with HBO comedy specials and in the beginning, that was a big one. You can just swear. Movies, you didn't have to bleep anything out. Just wild. And so these, what, what you're dealing with, with even the like, first of all, I definitely don't think that the government should be involved ever in dictating what a comedian can or cannot say in a monologue. That's fucking crazy.

• 1:01:13Patrick Bet-David?

  It's crazy.

• 1:01:14Speaker 12

  Now, if the, the problem is the companies, if they're being pressured by the government. So if that's real, and if people on the right are like, yeah, go get them.

• 1:01:26Speaker 07

  Oh my god, you're crazy. You're crazy for supporting this. Because this will be used on you. You don't think that the fucking globalist lizard people who run the world are sitting here going, great, what do we got, three years? We'll wake this out.

• 1:01:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause right there.

• 1:01:41Adam Sosnick?

  So, let the, essentially, let the market decide of what you're saying. Don't try to basically institute or get involved in what they're...

• 1:01:49Patrick Bet-David?

  No, my concern is the fact that they're not gonna forget this. And when they have, they have the control, trust me, they're gonna come back after you. Don't, don't be too relaxed when you have it right now, and you're like free and you can say whatever you want. This thing can change very quickly when somebody else is in the White House. Let AOC be in the White House, see what America looks like.

• 1:02:06Tom Ellsworth?

  We're seeing it with Comey. Comey is the other side now. Trump in the mugshot was the first. Now we're seeing round two.

• 1:02:14Speaker 07

  And I just...

• 1:02:14Tom Ellsworth?

  This is the same thing.

• 1:02:16Adam Sosnick?

  Pull up that Trump tweet again when he said, "Let Jimmy rot in low ratings." What'd he say about that?

• 1:02:21Speaker 07

  Yeah, let him rot in low ratings.

• 1:02:23Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, and that's actually what he should do. Because the reality is this. Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Kimmel's show was tanking. And there's something in investing called the reversion to the mean. Where like it's in the, in the, like, I'll use the NBA example. Like, you know there's a guy that averages 10 points a game? All of a sudden, he's on fire, he puts up 40, you're like, oh man. I guess RJ Barrett is an all-star. And you're like, nah. Next game, he goes for 6 and 4. You're like, okay. He gets back to his average. This whole thing that he got, what, 6 million viewers? How many did Jimmy get?

• 1:02:55Speaker 07

  6.4.

• 1:02:56Adam Sosnick?

  And he averages what?

• 1:02:57Speaker 07

  1.4, 1.3.

• 1:02:58Adam Sosnick?

  Check back in two or three weeks when he's reverting to the mean of what his actual numbers show.

• 1:03:03Speaker 07

  Oh yeah, am I just...

• 1:03:04Adam Sosnick?

  It's not like people are gonna start falling in love with Jimmy Kimmel over again.

• 1:03:07Speaker 07

  Just to clarify, I don't want the government ever, no, I don't want nobody pressuring. He sucks. His ratings suck. He's not funny. Okay, say that. I'm saying the attitude of Trump, keep your attitude. They're all, in his mind, the enemy. If you want people to think that I'm this Hitler Nazi guy, and by the way, you're losing money, so... So here's the thing, how is a show like that in a business, in a business sense, going on? Because they have to keep, they're willing to lose money.

• 1:03:33Tom Ellsworth?

  What evidence do you have that Trump dislikes his enemies?

• 1:03:36Speaker 07

  I actually don't.

• 1:03:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, let's do this. Let's go to the next story.

• 1:03:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, hate my enemies.

• 1:03:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's what I wanna go to. So, a study came out recently... Asking Gen Z female voters who voted for Kamala, what their top 20 priorities were and then asking Gen Z male voters who voted for Trump, what their top priorities were. As you go lower on this folks, you're going to be shell shocked, okay? Here's what I want to do before we go to it, Rob. What do you think having children, Vinnie, ranked for Gen Z males who voted for Trump versus Gen Z women who voted for Kamala? Having- Having children. What does it rank for Gen Z males? How do you want to rank it? Top 10 to 10? Top 20. So number 6, number 8, number 12, number 18? 3. Top 3.

• 1:04:23Patrick Bet-David?

  3 for male. For, okay, so both of you guys say 3. 3. Top 3. Tom says 3, Vinnie says 3, and then Adam, what do you want to say? You're saying top 10 with Gen Z males? Men who voted for Trump, where is their priority of having children in their top 20?

• 1:04:36Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, it's in the top 5. 5 to 8.

• 1:04:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, pick a number, Adam.

• 1:04:43Adam Sosnick?

  5.

• 1:04:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, good. Now, women who voted for Kamala having children? I'm not gonna put, it might not even be in the top 20. No, it is. Okay, okay. I'll say 18. It's- 18.

• 1:04:54Tom Ellsworth?

  I was gonna, I was gonna hedge a little bit and say 15.

• 1:04:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:04:58Tom Ellsworth?

  But we're in the same-

• 1:04:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam?

• 1:04:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Lowest quartile.

• 1:05:01Adam Sosnick?

  Somewhere 11. Lucky 11.

• 1:05:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. You're way off. You're way off. Go to it, Rob. So check this out to tell you where they're at.

• 1:05:07Adam Sosnick?

  Top 20. This is the top 20?

• 1:05:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Right there. So this is Gen Z male voted for Trump, having children, number 1. Get out of here, dude. Bingo. They're listening to Charlie Kirk is what that is. Number 1? Yes, number 1. I was way off. And just so you know, Gen Z is what, under 30? 18 to 29 is what they're asking here mainly. 18 to 29. So, by the way, Gen Z is 13 to 29, 13 to 28, but they don't vote. So they're going 18 to 29. So now look at female voted for Harris, all the way on the left, okay? All right, here we go. Female, number 1 there says what? Independent. Okay, go all the way down, Rob. No, all you have to do is just go down. No, no, no, you messed it up, Rob. Go back to- Son of a- Come on, Rob. I'm done. I'm walking off the set. Holy- Don't walk off. There it is.

• 1:05:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, all right, having children. Now go down. Watch this. Ready? Not 8, 11. I'm sorry, 12. 12. I said 11, 12. Having children- Is number 12 for them, okay? Now, go up Rob, go up Rob. Look at this, let's look at both of their priorities. Male, voted for Trump. Having children, achieving financial independence, having a job or career you find fulfilling. Go a little bit lower. Wow. Getting married, okay, go a little bit lower, Rob. Having children is more important than getting married. Having enough money. I'm with you guys. Rob, a little slower so I can go. Having enough money to do the things you want to do. Owning your own home, being spiritually grounded, making your family or community proud, having no debt, using your talents and resources to help others, being able to retire early, having emotional stability, fame and influence is number 13.

• 1:06:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, go to the other side, let's go with the women who voted for Kamala, having a job, having enough money to do what you want to do, have emotional stability, using your talents, resources, achieving financial independence, having no debt, owning your own home, making your family proud, being spiritually grounded, being able to retire early, being married, having children, fame and influence. Let, let's see what the male who voted for Kamala, where are they at, Rob? Go a little bit higher. That's male who voted for Kamala. They're in the female bathroom, hanging out. Having enough money, using your talents, resources, having emotional stability, making your family proud, owning your own home, having no, so being married is nine. So, male who voted for Kamala have children at 10. Female have at 12. How about women who voted for, uh, okay, so right there, so Trump. Go a little bit lower. So, here's what it looks like, folks. Democrats, you are in trouble.

• 1:07:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know why? Cause your base doesn't want to have kids. And Republicans do. There you go. You know what that means? We're at the Vault Conference. In the middle of the event, I asked people, "Stand up if you got four kids or more." They stand up. "Stand up if you got five kids or more." They stand up. "Stand up if you has..." Play the clip, Rob. Here's what we did to recognize people who had a lot of kids. Go ahead. First time in the history of America, population is declining. Child birth rate per average woman is 1.6, lowest in the history of America. If you have to step away from the meeting right now to go have unprotected sex with your wife.

• 1:07:53Patrick Bet-David?

  That is leaving right there. I respect you, thank you. You're a good man. You are a good man, right there. We have some private rooms in the back, by the way, with some nice complimentary beds. Guys, we're not making enough babies. Stand up if you have only one kid. Come on, it's gonna get awkward, very quick. Stand up if you got... Four or more kids. Here's to the rock stars in the room. Holy moly. Stand up. Be proud, right? Stand up if you got five or more kids. Five or more kids. Really? Stand up if you're at six or more. Make some noise to the six community. Stand up if you got seven or more kids. I was so impressed. Are you joking? With the audio? So you have two wives at the same time you have seven kids. Two different marriages that you had.

• 1:08:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I was, I was about to say, if you're gonna say two wives at the same time, some people are gonna come ask you questions. Anybody's at eight kids that's still standing that I can't see you. Nine? You got nine kids? Are you joking? Come to the front if you got little more kids. He just came back from the back room. You can see his face. Was that Shawn Alexander? This is insane. Trey, how are you? You have 10 kids. You've delivered 10 kids.

• 1:09:01Speaker 07

  Jeez.

• 1:09:03Patrick Bet-David?

  You guys have eight kids together.

• 1:09:04Speaker 07

  Look at her. Look at how amazing she looks.

• 1:09:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Raised eight children. How about you? Eight? How about yourself? Nine. Okay. This guy brought 10 people on stage who had eight or more kids and recognized them in front of everybody. Babe, we gotta get to work, right? This Catholic guy's on the, on the podcast. I said, you got eight kids? He says, yeah. I said, at what number did it get difficult? His answer is magical. He says, after three kids, it's always gonna feel like three kids. I said, tell me why? He says, because the oldest is now independent, so you're always only gonna feel like you have three kids. I want each of them to get a $500 gift. So, guess what? By the way, the future looks bright, guys. I'm telling you.

• 1:09:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Because you know we hit the lowest birth rate in the history of America again. But guess which side's having kids? Conservatives are. Democrats are not telling people to have kids. Democrats are opening up the borders. That's their way of getting even. They're not having kids. They know they're losing. Now watch this. Shawn Alexander. Former Seahawk star. Okay? Shawn Alexander, you know what he just announced? Oh my. His wife is pregnant with his 14th child. Dude, what is going on? That's not a family reunion? That's just one family? That's a family. Rob, can I play the clip?

• 1:10:21Speaker 09

  Beautiful family, Shawn. Wow.

• 1:10:23Speaker 13

  Oh, that's so wild.

• 1:10:24Speaker 09

  Oh my gosh.

• 1:10:25Patrick Bet-David?

  11?

• 1:10:26Speaker 13

  So, I wasn't, we're just now starting to tell people, but number 14 is in the belly. Dude, give her a break.

• 1:10:35Speaker 13

  Yeah, you're the first one I've told on TV.

• 1:10:37Speaker 09

  So that's on that.

• 1:10:39Speaker 13

  So, so yeah, so we're just now starting to tell everybody. So we, we have had 10 girls, three boys. My third, my oldest son, the fourth overall, Joseph, is a sophomore in high school and you know. Gotta love it, buddy.

• 1:10:54Adam Sosnick?

  Let me tell you.

• 1:10:55Speaker 13

  Gotta love him. I love it.

• 1:10:57Adam Sosnick?

  Shawn Alexander, if you remember him playing in the, in the NFL, greatest running back in Seattle Seahawks history, you could say he was known for putting the ball in the end zone. This guy led the NFL in touchdowns pretty much every season he was playing. He put the ball in the end zone. You need a yard, you need a goal, goal line stand, boom, he's getting the end zone. Look at this guy's touchdown stats. Look at that.

• 1:11:18Patrick Bet-David?

  27 in a season.

• 1:11:19Adam Sosnick?

  Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

• 1:11:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:11:21Adam Sosnick?

  This guy's gonna have as many kids as he was having touchdowns in a season.

• 1:11:24Patrick Bet-David?

  He's better at making kids.

• 1:11:25Speaker 07

  Hey, you have to be, uh, uh, cause I love, cause I love you and I have to warn you like, you know, some people say you can't go after big farmer because they'll destroy you. You talking like this, you're gonna have to worry about like big condom, like Magnum, Trojan, they're gonna come after you because you're pro.

• 1:11:38Adam Sosnick?

  Trojan man.

• 1:11:40Speaker 07

  Be careful.

• 1:11:41Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're married right now, your spouse is next to you, look at each other. No, no, look at her.

• 1:11:45Speaker 07

  Right now.

• 1:11:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at him, look at her, look at him. Go close the door, tell the kids, you guys have something to talk about, that's business dealings. Lock the doors, make sure you put whatever you can so they can't come in that even the, the hanger, you know, when they unlock the stuff, you know what I'm talking about?

• 1:11:59Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:12:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Get to work right now and make some noise so we can hear it right now.

• 1:12:05Speaker 07

  Geez.

• 1:12:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Just one time scream out PBD podcast.

• 1:12:08Adam Sosnick?

  PBD.

• 1:12:09Patrick Bet-David?

  One time when you're at it, scream out PBD podcast. I don't need you guys to post a video on LinkedIn or text or any of that stuff. But go make some babies.

• 1:12:19Adam Sosnick?

  I heard people laughing in the back.

• 1:12:20Tom Ellsworth?

  We can say this today, but there was a time where you couldn't really talk about even intimate making babies on TV. Ancient, ancient television history. There was a guy named Groucho Marx.

• 1:12:30Speaker 07

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:12:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Who used to do this little show and people would come on there and guess a word and stuff like that. And this woman comes on, he says, I understand you're a housewife. She goes, yes, I am. Says, uh, you have any children? I have 14. 14 children. Oh my, now why, why would you want 14 children? Says, I love children. And you remember how Groucho Marx, what he always had in his hand when he was on the air? A cigar. And he said, she goes, well, I love children. He says, I love cigars, but I take it out once in a while.

• 1:13:03Tom Ellsworth?

  He got in horrible trouble for this, for just that, at the dawn of TV. So that kind of wraps up our whole censorship and FCC and everything.

• 1:13:10Speaker 07

  We should sell, the PBD podcast, Value Tainment should sell condoms, but there's, it's just, there's no, there's no, it's just a ring.

• 1:13:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Condoms with holes in it everywhere.

• 1:13:19Speaker 07

  Yeah, just, yeah.

• 1:13:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Condoms and like, and, and we just, we literally, we put holes in the condoms that you know, go.

• 1:13:25Speaker 07

  Yeah, go for it.

• 1:13:26Tom Ellsworth?

  In Oxnard, California, and I, I'm ashamed to say I remember this, but um, there was a, in Oxnard, California, I had Filipino friends that had these like, really off color jokes they would tell about being close to the military. And it says, um, it says, my mother pokes pins, um, no, my, uh, my mother's, my sister sells condoms to sailors.

• 1:13:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:50Tom Ellsworth?

  My mother pokes holes with a pin. My dad performs abortion, man, the cash rolls in.

• 1:13:56Speaker 07

  Oh man.

• 1:13:56Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's like this, this little.

• 1:13:58Speaker 07

  Cycle, geez.

• 1:13:59Tom Ellsworth?

  This little, and by the way, there's people that are gonna go, I've heard that.

• 1:14:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Friendly conversation here.

• 1:14:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. Well, PBD, no, just, this is, in, in all seriousness.

• 1:14:07Speaker 07

  It results in children.

• 1:14:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Joke right there.

• 1:14:11Tom Ellsworth?

  But in all seriousness, I think, I'm actually very grateful that you brought up this topic because it, it is really shows the divide of what's going on with young America right now. So women prioritize having abortions over having babies. Think about that for a second. What do you want to do when you grow up? Have a baby in a family?

• 1:14:29Speaker 07

  No, I want to kill one.

• 1:14:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Or have abortions. I want to have abortion.

• 1:14:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Not women. Women on the left.

• 1:14:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Women, which most women are, by the way. Um, so what this stat shows is that conservative young men want to find love and build families and women.

• 1:14:46Adam Sosnick?

  Are basically told to do the exact opposite and avoid them. So this is why for young people, love feels so hard to find. Cause young men, it was, was it a top five? Was it a top 10? It was number one on the list, having children above even getting married. Versus liberal women are like, sign me up for an abortion.

• 1:15:05Tom Ellsworth?

  First.

• 1:15:06Adam Sosnick?

  That's what, this is the, the woke mind virus that feminism has, has insulated. And why you see women prioritize their career.

• 1:15:14Patrick Bet-David?

  And it was the Kamala.

• 1:15:15Adam Sosnick?

  Over families.

• 1:15:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Bring back guys, here's, can I make a recommendation? Listen folks, I wasn't kidding. Turn off the podcast.

• 1:15:22Adam Sosnick?

  Turn off the light.

• 1:15:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Get to work. Play some Boyz II Men. I'll make love to you. Like you want me to. And I'll hold you tight, baby, all through the night. I'll make love to you. Now, I don't care if you do Boyz II Men, I don't care if you do. Backstreet Boys. River runs, you know, runs dry. I don't care if you do Sade. I don't care if you do, you know, 69 Boys. I don't care what you do, to the type of stuff that you.

• 1:15:50Adam Sosnick?

  And the Quad City. I'm stuck up. I don't know. I wanna rock, I wanna rock, I wanna rock.

• 1:15:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, bring it back. Sorry, sorry. Bring it back.

• 1:15:59Adam Sosnick?

  Peanut butter. Actually, to close, to close this out, we found one thing.

• 1:16:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Get it, Tom?

• 1:16:04Adam Sosnick?

  Peanut butter jelly time.

• 1:16:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Peanut butter jelly time.

• 1:16:06Adam Sosnick?

  So you know, Vinnie, you know, it's interesting. On a survey.

• 1:16:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom knew that one rap song. Peanut butter jelly time.

• 1:16:12Adam Sosnick?

  Even though there was.

• 1:16:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom finished.

• 1:16:14Adam Sosnick?

  Kamala Harris had an impact on America's women.

• 1:16:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I was gonna tell one of his dirty jokes.

• 1:16:17Adam Sosnick?

  But you know what? You know, it was very interesting. Kamala filled out one of these surveys. You know what was number one for her? Number one, running out of ice and vodka. That was Kamala's.

• 1:16:26Patrick Bet-David?

  That was number one. I got it. Okay, so that's the joke he wanted to finish with. He was waiting for that one. We'll take it, we'll take it. All right, guys, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get into is the story about what the president did to the White House. You put up the pictures of all these presidents. I don't want to spend a lot of time on this. I want to spend three minutes on this story. No more, no less. Okay, so don't give me no, you know, the history of it.

• 1:16:49Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Look how respectful this is. He puts all these nice little pictures of presidents. I just love this Reagan, Carter, Ford, senior Clinton. You know, you got Bush, GW, you got Obama, then you got himself, and then you got Biden.

• 1:17:07Speaker 08

  Oh, man.

• 1:17:09Speaker 07

  Joseph.

• 1:17:09Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, he really did this.

• 1:17:10Speaker 07

  That is brilliant.

• 1:17:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, did he really do this, Rob?

• 1:17:13Speaker 08

  Uh, yeah, the White House did this.

• 1:17:15Speaker 07

  Oh, man.

• 1:17:15Speaker 08

  And he put himself on both sides.

• 1:17:18Speaker 07

  Come on, come on.

• 1:17:20Speaker 08

  And by the way, you see the one he used? I think that's the mug shot.

• 1:17:23Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's not.

• 1:17:23Speaker 07

  No, no, it's not, no.

• 1:17:24Patrick Bet-David?

  But it's a different picture.

• 1:17:25Speaker 07

  It's close, see? It's still the, it's the blue steel look from Zulat. Like, he's not playing games.

• 1:17:31Patrick Bet-David?

  To put that there, by the way, you know what that means if you put that there? You know what it means if we put the auto pen there? What does it really mean if you put that up?

• 1:17:37Speaker 08

  That he is coming after him.

• 1:17:38Patrick Bet-David?

  That it's not done.

• 1:17:39Speaker 07

  Oh, come on, let's do it, please.

• 1:17:41Patrick Bet-David?

  That is not done, Mr. Vinnie.

• 1:17:42Speaker 07

  President Trump, keep going.

• 1:17:43Patrick Bet-David?

  That is not done. That means something is coming in the next few weeks if you put it up there. Because you had already forgotten about it. Think about, we haven't talked about auto pen for a couple of months.

• 1:17:52Speaker 07

  I swear to you, I was thinking about it this morning, but I'll tell you.

• 1:17:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie, I know you were thinking about it.

• 1:17:57Speaker 07

  I was.

• 1:17:57Patrick Bet-David?

  But when you were thinking about it this morning.

• 1:17:59Speaker 08

  There's a price for going up against Trump.

• 1:18:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Because this picture just came back up. So you put it back in your, but the market had gotten away from it. So they're bringing it back and they post something like this. Is this, is this like a message?

• 1:18:08Speaker 07

  Like the 86 in the sand.

• 1:18:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this like, is this like an 86, fafo?

• 1:18:11Speaker 07

  Fafo, fafo.

• 1:18:12Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, is this like one of those things, you know?

• 1:18:13Speaker 07

  Oh, I hope so.

• 1:18:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Who knows? Who knows what's gonna happen?

• 1:18:16Speaker 07

  What do you think of this, guys? What do you think of this?

• 1:18:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it's a statement and saying, hey, keep saying stuff behind my back. And I, I think the one person that he hasn't yet fully gone after that I think he is on the list. Obama's, Obama's that guy. And I know they're trying to mess with him. By the way, Obama sat down with somebody and fo- folks, if you're an old man,

• 1:18:35Patrick Bet-David?

  brace for impact, because he's trying to disrespect you. And I don't appreciate it. I don't appreciate it. When, when, when, some people do that kind of stuff, but here's Barack Obama having a conversation, making fun of old men. You know, it's not appropriate, but here's what he had to say. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:18:49Speaker 08

  Oh, nice.

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• 1:19:50Speaker 14

  Also, especially young people, because it's fair to say that 80% of the world's problems involve old men hanging on and who are afraid of death. And insignificance. And they won't let go. Like Joe Biden? And...

• 1:20:11Speaker 14

  Schumer.

• 1:20:14Speaker 14

  You know, they build pyramids and they put their names on everything and...

• 1:20:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Except for Trump did that. He doesn't build anything. He doesn't build anything.

• 1:20:26Patrick Bet-David?

  He's not building a library in...

• 1:20:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Trump's in a hurry.

• 1:20:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's in there? Somebody with gray hair. I thought it was Roland G. Frye.

• 1:20:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is, Rob, who is the interviewer? I'll have to find out. I would love to see a picture of him. How much does it cost to make your hair look that bad? Hang on one second. Can you see who that was, Rob, please? It's like Vinnie's old hairdo but with hair locks. I actually want to know who that person is because I want to know, that was fantastic. Like, who is that person, Rob? What a crazy hairstyle. You seen that? Can you, can you like research? It's a very, it's imperative we know who that is. How do you make your hair look that? Yeah, so, but anyways, to make a statement like that, right? Old man, old man that wants to have relevance, that they build stuff like pyramids and put their names on it. So he's trying to call out who? He's trying to call out Trump. 100%. Yet, what, what do you say about, uh, what Biden did? What, what do you say about hap- this is, who is this guy, by the way?

• 1:21:19Tom Ellsworth?

  David Alagusa?

• 1:21:21Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a British historian. Alasoga, my friend. Australian historian, writer, broadcaster.

• 1:21:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Nigerian historian.

• 1:21:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, that, listen, that picture, he, extremely dark with the lighting wasn't good. So brought out the Nigerian side of him a little too much, but. So, uh, Tom, what do you think Obama is saying here? What is he trying to say?

• 1:21:39Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I think he's trying to, look, he's, he's taking a shot at Trump and saying, old guys, put your name on everything, like all the Trump buildings. But what he's, you know, he didn't go to Boomerang safety training. Uh, Obama didn't go to, go to that special class because who he's really poking at, he's poking at all of the people that are in our government. My goodness. He's poking at Jerry Nadler. You know, he's poking at Schumer. Look at this, people that hang on, and so he's trying to very make this sly veiled shot at Trump. But he ends up pointing at a lot of people in his own party and his own government, including himself a little bit.

• 1:22:22Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, he's about to build a big old building with his name on it, an ugly one in Chicago.

• 1:22:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Thank you, thank you, that's the point I want to make. You're building a big ass building.

• 1:22:29Tom Ellsworth?

  There are representatives from the DNC that says, I said that they say that the Obama library, they said, that's modern art, but says, that's not gonna, that's not gonna live up the test of time. It's a pretty ugly building. And this is people in the DNC were saying it, man, that's the library? And so I, I think Obama's trying to poke, trying to be sly, trying to be below the surface.

• 1:22:51Speaker 07

  Look at that, Tom, he wants to talk about making pyramids, what the hell is that? What is that? Ugly, ugly building.

• 1:22:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, give it a break, it may end up being nice.

• 1:23:00Speaker 07

  Yeah, but guess what, there's gonna be 90 shootings on the weekend right by it. Is that Chicago?

• 1:23:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that a Porsche wrap or is that, what, what car is that? That's a Porsche, right? That's a Porsche. Be patient, maybe it's gonna get better. Maybe it's gonna get better.

• 1:23:11Speaker 07

  I don't know.

• 1:23:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 1:23:15Adam Sosnick?

  That's what it's supposed to look like.

• 1:23:16Speaker 07

  That's what it's gonna look like. Your ugly ass pyramid.

• 1:23:19Patrick Bet-David?

  It does look good. Is it a church or what? A presidential library. Oh, it's a library?

• 1:23:23Speaker 07

  Yeah, it's ugly as hell. Who wants to read in that?

• 1:23:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Looks like a, looks like a prison. Are those letters, Rob? That's what it looks like, yes. Can you zoom in a little bit more? You can. That's as close as I can get. Well, all right, great. I mean, everybody has different tastes. Someone wants to build it like that. I'm your thoughts on it.

• 1:23:38Adam Sosnick?

  Well, there's two things going on here. I'm actually not a fan of what Trump did or what Obama did. I think what Trump did with the auto pen thing could be viewed as juvenile or divisive. You know, but at the same time, Trump is a troll. You know, trolls people, I get it. I, I think it's a little bit, uh, below the presidential office. However, I do support Trump. You know, what Obama's doing, I, I found egregious. Uh, you know how I feel. Do not make fun of old white men. It is uncalled for. It is disgusting and Obama needs to do better. And I'm not a fan of either of these guys antics.

• 1:24:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:14Adam Sosnick?

  And what the subtle jab that certain people do.

• 1:24:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Too much.

• 1:24:18Adam Sosnick?

  Sometimes I find a point. What do you think, Tom?

• 1:24:22Speaker 07

  Could I be honest with you?

• 1:24:26Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think, Tom? He's asking you a question.

• 1:24:28Adam Sosnick?

  You shouldn't pick on middle aged white guys here.

• 1:24:31Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, who's older, Obama or Tom?

• 1:24:34Speaker 07

  Obama.

• 1:24:35Adam Sosnick?

  Nah, I think Tom's older than Obama.

• 1:24:37Speaker 07

  I think Obama's 60s. What is Obama?

• 1:24:39Adam Sosnick?

  Tom's definitely cooler.

• 1:24:41Speaker 07

  Cut, 64.

• 1:24:43Adam Sosnick?

  And Tom is also 64.

• 1:24:46Speaker 07

  Tom looks way better than Obama. Look at Tom's hair.

• 1:24:48Adam Sosnick?

  You're 65?

• 1:24:49Speaker 07

  Look at Tom's hair. Obama looks like he's 90.

• 1:24:50Adam Sosnick?

  You're 63. So you and Obama are pretty much the same age? I mean, you guys both look great, a little bit of gray and Obama, no gray on Tom.

• 1:24:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm sorry. Tom looks much better.

• 1:25:00Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 1:25:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm actually being serious.

• 1:25:01Adam Sosnick?

  Tom has no gray on the hair, on the chin though.

• 1:25:03Patrick Bet-David?

  No gray hair.

• 1:25:04Speaker 07

  Just on his chin.

• 1:25:05Adam Sosnick?

  On his, it's so.

• 1:25:06Speaker 07

  Cause he, cause he talks a lot, cause words talk, numbers scream. His mouth is.

• 1:25:10Adam Sosnick?

  His mouth is.

• 1:25:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you want to say anything about the story? We can move on if you have nothing to say about the story.

• 1:25:15Adam Sosnick?

  No, I, I, I said my piece. I thought he was poking, I thought he was poking at Trump and, you know, people living glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

• 1:25:22Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't want to come to you twice. Say that another time.

• 1:25:24Speaker 07

  I think. And again, with all the stuff that this guy tried to do with the spying of Trump, he's been defeated by Trump. And you know what? That's true. Your reign is over. The Barack Obama, yes, we can and change and one of the worst, to me, one of the worst presidents. Okay, you want to talk about holding on the power? This last election, the one of the most devastating losses, and he had a huge part of it because they tried to wheel him out and do the whole, hey, guys, if you're black, you have to vote for Kamala, and it's bullshit. And you know what I think, Pat? I, in my, this is my opinion. What's that? Why he's so angry and he's so bitter and he has all this anger. And every time you see him with Michelle, it's like they're complete strangers. I think, and after what Larry Sinclair said about what he was doing in Illinois

• 1:26:07Speaker 07

  when he was in the state legislator, driving around, allegedly this is a Sinclair, doing drugs, smoking crack, sleeping with men. I think, my opinion, he's just, he's a gay man that can't come out and- Stop, stop it, Vinnie. Can I just?

• 1:26:22Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't go there, but I'll say-

• 1:26:24Speaker 07

  No, I do, I do.

• 1:26:25Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll say that in retirement, he took an L last year on his influence. He took an L.

• 1:26:30Speaker 07

  Well, of course not. That's not what I think.

• 1:26:32Tom Ellsworth?

  And I think he's trying to find a place for himself. More presidents should be like Jimmy Carter that said, I'm going to dedicate myself to Habitat for Humanity and doing things in community. And Jimmy Carter went and do that, even if you didn't like Jimmy Carter in his policies.

• 1:26:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think Pete Buttigieg is straight?

• 1:26:45Speaker 07

  No, I think he's gay. I think Pete Buttigieg is gay, for sure.

• 1:26:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You think Pete is gay? Because Tucker says Pete is just acting like he's gay, but he's not gay.

• 1:26:52Speaker 07

  No, no, Pete Buttigieg is married- I don't know. And they bought a kid, and that's a whole different situation. But, and by the way, this is my opinion. I just feel like Obama's that guy, and I feel like he'd be a way happier person if he just came out and be like Don Lemon, grab a mic and go on the streets.

• 1:27:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I think he's getting girls left and right.

• 1:27:09Speaker 07

  You honestly think?

• 1:27:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Obama?

• 1:27:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Who?

• 1:27:11Speaker 07

  Obama with Jennifer Aniston? No, I think that's all-

• 1:27:14Tom Ellsworth?

  I think that was real. And there's a lot of people we've spoke to that said it was real.

• 1:27:17Speaker 07

  Really?

• 1:27:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Jennifer Aniston had a-

• 1:27:20Patrick Bet-David?

  This guy, Obama?

• 1:27:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know.

• 1:27:24Speaker 07

  You don't think he's done any shady stuff?

• 1:27:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if he's done any of that stuff or not. I'm not sitting here saying what he's done with that part. I'm not saying that. All I'm like, we went to a restaurant last night. I have to give a disclaimer when I take that guys to this restaurant. You know what the restaurant's called? Meat Market. Do you know in the army when guys would say you want to go to?

• 1:27:41Speaker 07

  It's all dudes.

• 1:27:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And it would say Meat Market?

• 1:27:43Speaker 07

  It's all dudes.

• 1:27:43Patrick Bet-David?

  So I have to say guys, this is a-

• 1:27:45Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a down low club, right?

• 1:27:45Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, it's a meat market.

• 1:27:47Patrick Bet-David?

  It's actually a very good restaurant. It's a, it's called Meat Market. Now-

• 1:27:50Speaker 07

  Come on, Pat. You don't think I've ever eaten at the meat market?

• 1:27:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I know, but what I'm saying is when you go to the meat market, there is, no, that's not what it looks like. It's a restaurant.

• 1:27:58Speaker 07

  No, it's actually very classy.

• 1:28:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. But, uh, no, I, I, I think, I think Obama's getting a lot of play. What I think is going on, Vinny, which is a different situation for me.

• 1:28:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I think. I don't even know if I should say this.

• 1:28:12Speaker 07

  Do it. I want to hear this.

• 1:28:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, I think, you know, it's. It's, it's, it's, uh, he's bored in his marriage. I think that's what it is. And I think Obama is a higher grade man. And I'm not saying Michelle is not great for, you know, what she's done and her accolades and her capabilities, the way she communicates, the way she speaks, but Obama's a good looking guy. Obama's aged well. He's handsome. And he's taking care of his body. And I think he has so many options. And that's what he's battling with. And, and I'm sure he's had so many times that he's had opportunities where,

• 1:28:56Patrick Bet-David?

  you know, she knows about it and they're trying to find a way to make the marriage work. And I think that, that part, I do believe she's going through it and she's having a hardest time with it. Because even in that sit down that they had together, it looked like he was trying to make her happy, but he was also uncomfortable. And it's as if they hadn't seen each other for a minute.

• 1:29:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Like the dinner table thing, reaching across?

• 1:29:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Not the dinner table thing.

• 1:29:18Speaker 07

  And Pat, I'm not just making stuff up. With the letters that he wrote to his girlfriend, talking about fantasizing over men, these aren't, I'm not, but just to, just to say, it's my opinion, but I have, but Tom-

• 1:29:27Tom Ellsworth?

  He may have done that back in college. He did. I agree.

• 1:29:29Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah. And I'm with Pat right now. I'm not, I'm not coming out of the blue just saying that. Look at that leg. It's almost another person's leg.

• 1:29:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at him. Look at him, that's a good looking guy.

• 1:29:40Speaker 07

  Yeah, I'm not taking away from him being a good looking dude.

• 1:29:42Patrick Bet-David?

  What I'm saying is he's got options. Am I saying like, you know, in back in the days he had, you know, I don't know, like maybe, you know, fencing, you know, certain sports like it's different for, I don't know.

• 1:29:52Speaker 07

  He might be fencing college.

• 1:29:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know. I never played lacrosse. I never did fencing. We never did sword fighting, any of this stuff.

• 1:29:57Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:29:58Patrick Bet-David?

  But all I'm saying, in this situation,

• 1:30:00Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:30:01Patrick Bet-David?

  he is a good looking guy with a lot of options and a lot of those people, because think about it. Imagine you're a Hollywood superstar actress.

• 1:30:11Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 1:30:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is trying to get even with your ex. And your ex is a guy named Brad.

• 1:30:18Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:30:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to go above somebody for him to be jealous and say, oh shit.

• 1:30:25Speaker 07

  Punch up.

• 1:30:25Patrick Bet-David?

  This is punching up. This is as up as it gets. Barack Obama. So I think that's the challenge that he's dealing with. Anyway, let's go to the next story here, next story.

• 1:30:35Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:30:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, uh, next story I want to get to is, uh, Mamdani in New York. Mamdani in New York, but what's going on over there? So Zohran Mamdani, his lead is getting bigger and bigger and bigger. The dominant lead in the latest New York City Mirror Poll shows that even more bad news for the rivals. Okay, so more bad news for the rivals. Now, what does that mean? Uh, more bad news for the rivals. Let's read through some of these things here. Uh, Mamdani holds a dominant 20-point lead in the race. Bolstered by majority support from black, Latino and Asian voters, according to a new poll recorded, uh, released Tuesday. Mamdani's lead in the penic candida and former governor Cuomo, 45 to 25, bam, 20-point lead.

• 1:31:19Patrick Bet-David?

  On Curtis Leewa, he trails by nine percent. He's at nine percent. And in Adams is at eight percent. It's just not looking good, the way it's going right now. And Mamdani building support, uh, among black and Hispanic voters since his huge victory in June. Democratic Party surged over Cuomo with a slew of other candidates. Mamdani now leads Cuomo better than two to one. And some 53% of black voters support Mamdani compared to 21% of Cuomo and 10% of Adams. Black voters are choosing Mamdani over Adams. And Adams is black, okay? So we're not talking like a Sammy Sosa situation here. Even though Mamdani is not black, they're supporting him more. And Adams, who was in, like, he was there in New York, he was a cop.

• 1:32:03Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not supporting him, they're going for Mamdani. And on top of this, Leewa had a few things to say. And Adams came out, and Adams camp, uh, campaign disappearing. Act his fifth day as insiders wonder if he's quiet quitting New York City mayoral race. And he's gonna be stepping away. And, and, and a lot of people are saying this guy's gonna be stepping away. And then Curtis Leewa, the Republican candidate, comes out and says the following here. Said he was offered money to quit. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:32:31Speaker 15

  Have you seen Eric Adams? We're 40 days out of a campaign. And he has been invisible on the campaign trail. So I'm sure he's in the process of trying to figure out if the price is right for him to drop out. In reference to myself, uh, these overtures were made by people that I've known over the years. They're obviously Cuomo's supporters. And they offered millions of dollars, uh, for me to basically not run the campaign, to drop out.

• 1:33:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, I guess the question becomes the following. Tom, you're pretty good at these types of things. Who drops out first? Who drops out second? And with a week out of November 4th election, which I think it's November 4th, for probably the most important mayoral race New York City has seen in a long time, maybe ever, who do you think will be the final two candidates a week out of November 4th election?

• 1:33:27Tom Ellsworth?

  A week out of November 4th, it'll be Curtis Leewa and Mamdani.

• 1:33:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You think Cuomo's gonna drop out?

• 1:33:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, no, no, no, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. I, I think Cuomo's in, you're talking about the two majors. Cuomo's the independent, right?

• 1:33:41Patrick Bet-David?

  So Cuomo's gonna be in, Leewa's gonna be in, Mamdani's gonna be in?

• 1:33:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Right, um, two weeks, actually only about a week and a half before the horrible tragedy with Charlie Kirk, the assassination. What were you talking about? Eric Adams had met with the president. The president was reaching out to Eric Adams. The president was trying to broker something. And if you look at Eric Adams, um, Eric Adams 8 on Cuomo's 27, it's still only 35.

• 1:34:08Tom Ellsworth?

  If it is true that among all voters that in a four horse race, Mamdani is sitting on 45, the rest of the table has to sweep with no breakage. Remember, we talked about the independents on Bobby Kennedy, that one in five would actually go Biden. So you only ended up net three, remember Pat?

• 1:34:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Five for Bobby, one for Biden. So that means one for Trump cancels. So you only got three, net three for Trump. This is the same kind of math you go here that I've been staring at. And the part of me, there's two things that, um, that shock me. Trump won with the independent voters. Go to the bottom of the first column.

• 1:34:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I know.

• 1:34:57Tom Ellsworth?

  26% of the independent voters are going with Mamdani.

• 1:35:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what's shocking on that as well, Tom?

• 1:35:03Tom Ellsworth?

  That is the, that's the problem.

• 1:35:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my God.

• 1:35:06Tom Ellsworth?

  That is the problem.

• 1:35:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Independent voters, 26 to 23 lead over Cuomo, but that means Cuomo could beat them. But you know what's a shocking one for me? 27% of New York City Jewish voters.

• 1:35:16Tom Ellsworth?

  I swear to you, I was looking at that. How?

• 1:35:18Patrick Bet-David?

  27% of Jewish voters want Mamdani. And the only other community they're okay with is Cuomo. Look, look at the Republicans. 6% of Republicans want Mamdani. Okay, Tom, go look at the very liberal voters. What percentage of very liberal voters want Sliwa?

• 1:35:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Zero.

• 1:35:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Zero. How about Adams? 2%. But 6% of Republicans want Mamdani in New York?

• 1:35:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Right.

• 1:35:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen.

• 1:35:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Those are New York Republicans, right?

• 1:35:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I said this at Jubilee. Let's get Mamdani and see what happens.

• 1:35:47Tom Ellsworth?

  It's gonna, the odds are, he's going to, right?

• 1:35:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. I mean, at this point, the, the one thing said that if Sliwa and Adams dropped out, Cuomo could beat Mamdani, but who knows if that's gonna happen. Go ahead.

• 1:35:58Tom Ellsworth?

  And I just want to make one, one point out, like, and Sliwa, I think, you know, has good intentions and I wish he was better, but you know what it is? It's the beret. You cannot be wearing a red beret and people are gonna take you. You're not a French chef. Well, you know why he's doing it? From, no, no, no, but listen, you're not, if he was wearing a Yankee fitted, I guarantee you the

• 1:36:18Speaker 07

  Percentage would be up.

• 1:36:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know why he's doing it?

• 1:36:19Speaker 07

  Be not.

• 1:36:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Tom.

• 1:36:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Because earlier in his life, he formed a group called the Guardian Angels, which were independent community protection squad.

• 1:36:27Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:36:27Tom Ellsworth?

  That when New York had such terrible crime. And you'll find pictures of him much, much younger with a whole tribe of people of all races. They were actually trying to come together, multiple races, to make communities safer at night. It was legit. That sometimes they were armed, a lot of times they just had their red jackets and they had maybe a club or mace. And they didn't carry guns. So he's trying to remind people.

• 1:36:55Speaker 07

  Yeah, but it's not working.

• 1:36:56Tom Ellsworth?

  I was once for New York and here. I agree with you, but that's the whole point.

• 1:36:59Speaker 07

  No, and I, I, I knew something about that, but what I'm saying is, bro, as a look, they want somebody that they could look at and be like, okay, this person is, is, is political and whatever. They're not, it's not going to sell.

• 1:37:09Tom Ellsworth?

  This is the community watch in a busy city.

• 1:37:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know this moment right here, what just happened? Do you know what this means with this moment watching what you, what just happened? You have to explain to Vinnie why he's wearing the red beret. That means he has to explain to young voters.

• 1:37:23Speaker 07

  Thank you.

• 1:37:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Young voters don't know why he's wearing that.

• 1:37:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly.

• 1:37:26Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, like, maybe he's thinking like, am I trying to connect with like Tim Poole audience? I don't know what he's doing, but to the average person, you don't know what's going on.

• 1:37:34Tom Ellsworth?

  No, you're, you're absolutely right.

• 1:37:35Patrick Bet-David?

  The younger audience needs an explanation.

• 1:37:37Tom Ellsworth?

  And I, I don't hear him. If you look at his stump speeches and stuff.

• 1:37:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not trying to be funny. I just, I want to know.

• 1:37:42Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not trying to be funny either.

• 1:37:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I thought you were at one point.

• 1:37:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Where is he out there that says, listen, we're coming to a dangerous New York. If this guy's elected, you're going to have a more dangerous New York. I grew up in the city. I formed a community watch group. And it says, you know, this red beret hearkens back to a time where I, I, without a weapon, walked the streets of New York with my compatriots, trying to keep the streets safe at night.

• 1:38:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:06Tom Ellsworth?

  And says, and I want that same New York in the future. He's got a pull to the, to the emotion of people to remember what it was.

• 1:38:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I agree, but at the same time, I think at this point, Adam, uh, uh, let's, let's give the final thought.

• 1:38:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Got to run the table now.

• 1:38:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I'm just going to give a preemptive congratulations.

• 1:38:26Adam Sosnick?

  To the new mayor of New York City, Zoran Mamdani. Mr. Mayor, thank you for coming. What's gonna unfold in the next 40 days is that Curtis Sliwa, who's at 1%, him and the Red Beret, they'll be gone, respect to you, boom, boom, boom. Then Eric Adams, who's now trending at somewhere below 1%. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for your service, you're gone. Cuomo, who's somewhere at 10% in the odds, sir, thank you for all your efforts you've done to make New York the state it is, but it's Mayor Mamdani's time. New York City, which was once the heart of capitalism in this country, is now the new home to progressive Islamist communism. Congratulations, New York City, hope you get what you paid for. Now, here's the second point.

• 1:39:10Adam Sosnick?

  You know, sometimes, I'm actually anti-Semitic as well. Now, you might be saying, what do you mean?

• 1:39:16Speaker 07

  You self-hating Jewish person, Adam?

• 1:39:18Adam Sosnick?

  Bingo.

• 1:39:19Speaker 07

  You self-hating...

• 1:39:20Adam Sosnick?

  Let him go, I know what he's gonna say. Some of the worst people out there are the super-liberal, progressive Jewish people. And this is for my moderate, somewhat conservative Jewish guy. I'm anti-Semitic against those motherfuckers. I'm talking about the Bernie Sanders of the world, the George Soros's of the world, I wouldn't even say is Jewish, he's, I don't know if he's the devil, but they're certainly in touch, and Chuck Schumer's of the world. These people do not represent Judaism, they don't represent Israel, they represent themselves. It's much like when you see a Christian pastor who's talking about, let's be inclusive and tolerant of the LGBT community, and then you have people being like, yeah, I don't

• 1:40:04Adam Sosnick?

  know if that's what we need to be sending the messages in church. I don't know. The point is this, certain people need to be called out, and if, what is it, 40%, 27% of Jewish voters in New York are the ones voting for Mamdani? Hi, guys, have a great life, peace out.

• 1:40:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, it is gonna be, it is gonna be a...

• 1:40:25Adam Sosnick?

  Very interesting.

• 1:40:25Patrick Bet-David?

  It is gonna be a very, very interesting move in New York, as they're going through this process. But, all right, let's get to next door here. Next door I want to get to is...

• 1:40:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, which one is the story that I wanted to cover that we haven't gone through yet? There was one story that I wanted to get to. Boom, boom, boom, which one is it? Some business. No, let me see which one it was. Not business. Newsom. Newsom talks about 2028 election won't be happening. So Rob, if you want to go to this one here, and Tom, I'm going to go to the lithium story next. So be ready for the lithium one. Newsom fears Trump will cancel 2028 election to stay in power. Rob, can you please play this clip? And by the way, I think his hair got grayer and it looks better on him. Let me just start off with a compliment Gavin, if you say we never compliment you. And then after the compliment comes something else that has to do with it. If you ever want to pay Gavin a compliment. Go ahead. He said he's got great hair. Go ahead. And then you run out of compliments. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:41:18Speaker 16

  I fear that we will not have an election in 2028. I really mean that. In the core of my soul, unless we wake up to the code red, what's happening in this country? And we wake up soberly to how serious this moment is.

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• 1:42:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at the applause, bro.

• 1:42:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Go do it again.

• 1:42:34Tom Ellsworth?

  So, Vinnie, he starts first with the finger and then boom.

• 1:42:38Speaker 07

  He does this.

• 1:42:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Takes the trigger, watch. Watch what happens to that finger. Go do it again. I fear that we will not have an election in 2028.

• 1:42:46Speaker 07

  Got it. Great call.

• 1:42:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I fear that we will not have an election. Look, here's what I will tell you. You fear you're not gonna have an election in 2028. Gavin, you know you don't believe that, okay? But let me say, tell you something here. There is, there's annual conventions that happens in Vegas that is for the adult entertainment business. What is it called? It's called the, I don't know what the, uh...

• 1:43:06Speaker 07

  The, uh, what's it called?

• 1:43:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what is it called?

• 1:43:08Speaker 07

  AV?

• 1:43:09Tom Ellsworth?

  What is it, Tom?

• 1:43:09Speaker 07

  Tom, Rob knows of all people, Pat.

• 1:43:11Patrick Bet-David?

  What is it called, Rob? AV Awards?

• 1:43:13Speaker 07

  The AVN Awards.

• 1:43:14Patrick Bet-David?

  AVN Awards. What's it called?

• 1:43:16Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 1:43:17Patrick Bet-David?

  AVN Awards, right? Whatever it's called. Rob, please don't pull up pictures. We're not doing what you did last time. Last time I asked Rob to go to a website.

• 1:43:25Speaker 07

  People's feet were behind their heads.

• 1:43:27Patrick Bet-David?

  So, I do believe if you had to give the biggest Fear Porn Star of the Year Award, I think it's Gavin Newsom. I really do. And I, by the way, I think, can we, can somebody make a picture on the back and send it to me so I can post it? Hey, uh, whoever the design team that knows how to make these memes, send it to me. Send it to me, I'll pick one and I'm gonna post it. I, I think, and Rob, if we can do it right now because I want the audience to get behind it, we should recognize him.

• 1:43:53Speaker 07

  The Fear Porn Award of the Year.

• 1:43:55Patrick Bet-David?

  It needs to be the AVN Fear Porn Star Award of the Year Gavin Newsom. And I wanna post it.

• 1:44:01Speaker 07

  Does he get a lifetime?

• 1:44:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Because I think this guy deserves a lifetime achievement medal for this. I think the amount of fear porn this man has spewed out gets a credit. Uh, I don't know what the prop is when they give it. I don't even wanna imagine what the prop is.

• 1:44:14Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a good one.

• 1:44:15Patrick Bet-David?

  But, uh, whatever the prop is, when you spew out stuff like this, Tom, the question becomes the following. Is he doing it on purpose? Does he know it's not true that there's gonna be an election in 2028? What is his outcome of this? Is it just like more people talking about him? Is that all it is? What do you think it is?

• 1:44:33Tom Ellsworth?

  I think that's exactly what it is, and I think what they do very strategically, and I'm not gonna turn this into a joke. They...

• 1:44:40Tom Ellsworth?

  They pick their spots. They want to put them two things. I want him in a spotlight and I want a outrageous statement to be made. We were just talking about freedom of speech. Great. You know what we could do? Hey, maybe we won't have an election next year. Send me out. Send me to the talk shows. I am worried that we will not have an election in 2028. So, and it's a bombastic way to get in front of the cameras and to point at that crazy authoritarian, that's on message with DNC authoritarian, is gonna, is gonna do this. And in this case, he's got

• 1:45:22Tom Ellsworth?

  nothing to talk about on policy. He's got no wins in California to talk about on anything. There hasn't been any economic stats that somebody else came out that he could take credit for. So he's just out there with his team inverting a headline so he can go out there and put himself in the spotlight and poke at it. I think it's that simple, Pat. It's strategic by a guy. And by the way, I respect the machine he's got and the Republicans and everybody else better be ready to deal with this machine in 2028.

• 1:45:53Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I agree. Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:45:56Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I can just see Gavin Newsom accepting the award. They're like, please welcome the winner of the gaslighting the public award, the fear porn award, the biggest hypocrisy user in the world, manipulating the media, confusing words, flip flopping, the greatest hair. The fear porn award goes to Gavin Newsom. Come up and get your award here, buddy. He knows that Trump isn't running again in 2028. Trump has actually said that, you want me to gaslight? I'm a gaslight. I hope Trump wins in 2028. I'm rooting for Trump to run in 2028 and I hope.

• 1:46:32Adam Sosnick?

  That Gavin Newsom is a Democratic nominee. And I hope in Florida, it comes down to the, a very close election, just like it did in the closest election of our lifetime, Tom, which was Bush versus Gore, not Trump versus Kamala Harris, Miss, uh, ex former vice president. And I hope that it comes down to the final vote, the hanging, Chad. And if I had that vote, I would vote for Trump every single time and Gavin would lose.

• 1:46:57Speaker 07

  I think.

• 1:46:57Adam Sosnick?

  And Trump would be president for a third time.

• 1:46:59Speaker 07

  And I don't say it as lightly, I have my opinions. I truly think this guy is a sociopath. You should, I saw this whole thing, Pat, the audience cheering and going crazy. I mean, he's still, and like you said, he is very good. You have to give credit where credit is due. He believes in his madness. And let's just really fast, California, cause this is what, this is gonna be, and I've said this before, even with what's his face that was here, Sam Seder, California, number one in homelessness, number one in poverty, number one in retail crime, number one in gas prices, number one in illiteracy, number one in wage stagnation, frivolous lawsuits, restrictions on workers, I could, guys, and gas tax, I could keep beside your gas lighting.

• 1:47:38Adam Sosnick?

  None of that matters.

• 1:47:39Speaker 07

  No, no, I know, Adam, it's all about, but you know what?

• 1:47:41Adam Sosnick?

  None of that matters, it's all about your feelings.

• 1:47:42Speaker 07

  And Robbie, can you put this on the speed of 1.75? Pat, just to show you how he's doing, it's a script. What he's doing right now, he's on the script tour of the Fear Porn Awards. Yeah, Robbie, you put it fast? Yep. Guys, tell me, look, look at this, look at what he's doing. He's weakness masquerading as strength.

• 1:47:57Speaker 16

  Donald Trump is weakness masquerading as strength. Scared to death about not just these authoritarian tendencies, but these authoritarian actions. These are not just authoritarian tendencies, these are authoritarian actions. You think I'm exaggerating? Being hyperbolic, bull****, we're being hyperbolic. He never sent the military overseas. He sent the military to the United States of America. He sent 700 active duty members of the Marines. He sent the United States Marines, not overseas, but to an American city, 700 active duty Marines. You have the largest private police force in the world. Is the private, largest private domestic army of its type, police force anywhere in the world. And increasingly is showing a tendency not to swear an oath to the Constitution.

• 1:48:32Adam Sosnick?

  But to the President of the United States. And increasingly appear to be swearing oath of office to him, not the Constitution of the United States. This is him campaigning for 2028, guys.

• 1:48:41Speaker 07

  But what I want to say is with what he says, because I want to give you an example of the fear porn. Okay, we just had the Dallas sniper shooter, okay, right with Joshua John Pat, right? All the stuff that he was talking about ICE and bullets about ICE and all this negative crap. Attacks on ICE are up 800% this year. August, Karen Bass bragged about tracking ICE agents. This kid had an app that was tracking ICE agents and this is all coming from people like this. Gavin Newsom has blood on his hands. Did you see, Rob, did you see what he was saying?

• 1:49:13Speaker 08

  I haven't.

• 1:49:14Speaker 07

  Can you show what he was saying? This is just weeks ago, he did this twice.

• 1:49:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Joshua John is the same guy that played 17,500 hours of violent video games. And he's the guy that tried to kill ICE agents, but he ended up killing Kurov.

• 1:49:26Speaker 08

  He killed one migrant that was being detained at the facility and then injured two others. And just so you know, this video is not from last week, it's actually from the day before the shooting.

• 1:49:33Speaker 07

  This is the day before the shooting, go ahead.

• 1:49:35Speaker 16

  The United States of America, masked men jumping out of unmarked cars, people disappearing, no due process, no oversight, zero accountability, happening in the United States of America today. People ask, well, is authoritarianism, you're being hyperbolic? Bullshit, we're being hyperbolic. If you're a black and brown community, it's here in this country. And so.

• 1:49:56Speaker 07

  Yeah, can I say one thing? Gavin, where were you when these illegals that you were worrying about were raping and killing American women? None of them ever said one thing, one thing. And then the day after this, this guy, and this is a week ago when he said, hey, ICE, take off your mask, what are you afraid of? You know what they're afraid of? Getting sniped, you porn award. I despise that guy.

• 1:50:21Patrick Bet-David?

  3,000 votes, 60 something percent say it's going to be Gavin Newsom 2028 election.

• 1:50:27Speaker 07

  60 how much?

• 1:50:27Patrick Bet-David?

  63 percent.

• 1:50:28Adam Sosnick?

  He's got all the right moves.

• 1:50:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Our audience.

• 1:50:31Speaker 07

  I agree with the 60.

• 1:50:32Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let me get to the next story and we'll wrap up.

• 1:50:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So what was I said, I was going to go? We'll do a couple of stories, we'll do a lithium and we'll go to this one. Owner of Radio Shack, Pier 1 Imports and other brands accused by SEC of operating $112 million Ponzi scheme. Okay? This is not a good look, but we don't know if it's 100% true or not. Let me just read this. Rob, can you pull up the story, please? Can you pull up the story? So a pair of e-commerce entrepreneurs who bought bankrupt retail giants, including Pier 1 Imports, Radio Shack, Model Sporting Goods, have been accused of running a $112 million scheme. According to a new lawsuit, the U.S. Securities Exchange Commission accused Alex and Ty Lopez, Alex and Ty Lopez, founder members of Miami-based retail e-commerce venture, by duping investors out of $112 million.

• 1:51:19Patrick Bet-David?

  According to the federal Southern District of Florida filing obtained by The Post, Mayor and Lopez were known for snatching up struggling brick-and-mortar brands and attempting to brand, rebrand them as online shops. Their business portfolios also includes Dress Barn, Model Sporting Goods, and Stein Mart, the suit as well. Mayor and Iranian-born immigrant who worked in risk and safety management at NASA Safe Exploration Missions, teams up with Lopez at the height of the retail carnage in 2019, when nearly 10,000 stores went out of business, The Post previously reported. Lopez also showed me some of those books, 67, on how to manage. Okay, alright, so what do we know about the story, Tom? What do we know about the story? Because I think what they were trying to do is,

• 1:52:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Ty knows how to use traffic to websites. So he wanted to convert Radio Shack and all these things to sell the products through the internet. And so they picked them up. What happened next, Tom?

• 1:52:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, apparently, what he and his business partner did is says, "Hey, these are great brands, people. Remember Pier 1 Imports. It used to almost be kind of a combination of IKEA and Restoration Hardware. You could buy all these things at Pier 1 Imports, decorate your house, and all that stuff like that." And so, these brands, and Radio Shack, you used to go there to get dish, you used to go there to get computers.

• 1:52:41Patrick Bet-David?

  You worked with Radio Shack many years ago when you were doing Sprint, right? You guys were doing the phone.

• 1:52:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, absolutely. Radio Shack had what was called the store within a store. So one wall of Radio Shack was Sprint. And Sprint had put this wall together in partnership with Radio Shack for Sprint PCS. And they cranked out volume, and they were in all these small cities. They had kiosks, all these things going on. So, once upon a time, these brands meant something to Americans. And they, apparently, the SEC is saying...

• 1:53:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Here's what you did. You took these two brands, you tried to get people to invest, and you were using those, and investors, according to the SEC, that there's a complaint that's gonna come down about what they say, it ended up being $112 million Ponzi scheme. If this is what has happened, that means that Mayor and Lopez, um, basically, you know, got people to invest in this and it didn't go that way, and now investors lost their money, or it was later, when they say Ponzi scheme, it's like, that means later investors, I mean, early investors got interest payments or returns based on later investors.

• 1:53:57Tom Ellsworth?

  It's like, you're the first investor and I'm the number 50th. I give them a check for $10,000 and they give you 2,000, and hey, here's 2,000 of your profit. Oh my gosh, that's working really good. And that's the Ponzi scheme nature of it. So this is bad, and this is coming down, when the USSC says that they're, um, are accusing them, we're waiting to see what the, um, uh, what the indictment looks like, but this is never good. And, you know, when you've got people, Pat, you remember these guys, he had this program he would sell, 67 steps?

• 1:54:29Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:54:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Every now and then you'd see people saying, "Hey, I got out of alcoholism, I started a small business, 67 steps really helped me." I like that. That's a great story. And if on the other side of this, if this indictment comes down and then these guys are guilty, that's really sad. But right now, I think we gotta let the SEC do its work, but a headline that's got your name in it, an SEC, an accusation, and 112 million in Ponzi is never a good thing.

• 1:54:57Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, this is not a good look for Tai Lopez. I hope it's not true. Say it unso. We all remember Tai Lopez, one of the first OG influencers in the game. We remember him with his, uh, phone in the garage before selfies were even a thing, with the Ferrari in the garage with the books.

• 1:55:18Adam Sosnick?

  I hope this is not true. Now, you know, a lot of people are gonna probably do content about this. There's gonna be a rush to judgment. Let's just remember, in America, you're innocent until proven guilty. He'll have his day, apparently in court, but I hope, for Ty's sake, that he wouldn't do something like this. But this is why, you know, Pat always says, you never know. You gotta play the long game with certain people. So we'll see what happens. What do you think?

• 1:55:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I, no, I hope nothing happens to these guys. At one point, his content did inspire a lot of young guys. And I think Alex Mayer actually built a real business.

• 1:55:51Adam Sosnick?

  It was like a book business?

• 1:55:52Patrick Bet-David?

  No, not the book business. Alex, Alex actually built something that somebody bought. And, and what was the business that he built, Rob? Can you pull it up? He was, it was a date, it was, I'm trying to see if it was a dating site or Zeus, there it is, Zeus. So go, go up to that one?

• 1:56:09Adam Sosnick?

  Zeus?

• 1:56:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Zeus.

• 1:56:10Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, Zeus.

• 1:56:10Patrick Bet-David?

  He's the founder of Zeus. Yeah, so what did Zeus sell for? Can you, can you pull up what Zeus sold for? What did, what did Zeus sell for? Yeah, that's his company. It was acquired for 255 million. So this is a real entrepreneur. It's not like they're not. Now, what happens here? I hope nothing happens as they go through this. And who knows, sometimes on the way you make enemies and people come after you. I hope this is a story that comes and leaves and they're fine and they continue growing their businesses. All right, Rob, in regards to a couple of new findings with the Charlie Crook shooting, Vinny?

• 1:56:46Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:56:46Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a few things that are very weird on what's been shown the last couple of days, okay? And I don't know which angle to go with right now. Let's start off with, Rob, if you wanna pull

• 1:57:01Patrick Bet-David?

  the clips of when the shooting happens, there's now, potentially, they're looking at how many different shooters, Tom?

• 1:57:12Adam Sosnick?

  They're, they're looking at, right now, there's three scenarios.

• 1:57:16Tom Ellsworth?

  That Tyler from the roof.

• 1:57:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:57:19Tom Ellsworth?

  But that doesn't look like an exit wound. That doesn't look like an entry wound, that looks like an exit wound.

• 1:57:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 1:57:26Tom Ellsworth?

  And then shooter on top of the adjacent.

• 1:57:29Patrick Bet-David?

  To his right, the audience left.

• 1:57:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct, up behind some shrub or some item up on the roof.

• 1:57:35Speaker 07

  That needs to be looked into.

• 1:57:36Tom Ellsworth?

  And then people are also looking at the way the shirt moves and the way his microphone moves and the way the earpiece flipped out and the necklace flipped out. Was there actually, believe it or not, this is the third.

• 1:57:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Mechanism on the mic.

• 1:57:51Tom Ellsworth?

  That there is something on the mic.

• 1:57:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:57:53Tom Ellsworth?

  And it, all I'll say is that every day that goes by, when you look at all this video, it looks less and less and less and less and less possible that it was a single shot from a 38, 30 out of 6 by Tyler.

• 1:58:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And on top of that, a couple of things, Vinny, maybe you want to break that down.

• 1:58:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:13Patrick Bet-David?

  On the digging and guy takes a chip, puts it in a hat, put it on, maybe walk through that part.

• 1:58:19Speaker 07

  And by the way, there was, and just to go back, I don't want, I don't want to say definitively, but there was a kid who was there and witnessed everything that's trying to give his account, and as he's saying it, he's grabbed and silenced and he's yelling, "Get the hell off me, get off me." He was being silenced because he was giving his account. I don't know if it was Andrew that went up to him, but it looked like him from the side. I don't know. I'm just saying it might have been when it's aftermath, when the kid's describing the situation. But if that's the case, and Charlie was hit here and the bullet came out there, I don't know if it was that day or the next, very next day, they were basically doing construction and digging up that entire area and putting a, like, concrete things and slabs down, which is unheard of, okay?

• 1:59:04Speaker 07

  Because people are now insinuating, well, wait a minute, if he was shot here and the bullet went in there, you guys are digging up where the actual round is because we haven't heard about it at all. See, I know they're doing toxicology, but look, look at this. This is where Charlie was, were shot. What are they, really, that fast after you guys are digging up and doing a bunch of stuff? And then with the individual that they're talking. Talking about It's like the garden hose on the roof. When they shot, yeah, on Butler. Guys, so a murder, an assassination just happened. I don't care if you work for Turning Point. I don't give a damn what anybody's story is. Nothing is to be touched. That camera that was behind Charlie, that is now evidence.

• 1:59:44Speaker 07

  The, the, the chair that you moved and you stand on, you just contaminated the crime scene. Okay? Leave it alone. Where the hell was security? Where the hell was somebody to keep the integrity of the scene? And then there's footage of the guy going back there, putting his hands on everything, taking out the SD card and turning and when it goes behind there, Rob, he gives it to that guy, like doesn't look shady at all. And then Rob, did they actually follow him when he goes behind? Keep it going. Keep it going. Let me see if this is the actual one because the one that I saw, he takes it out, gives it to a guy and it looks like he, look at this. Puts it in a hat and then puts his hat on. And I know everybody's gonna say, well, he works for Turning Point and I don't care who he works for. Why are you touching stuff? Why are you touching that?

• 2:00:28Speaker 07

  I have another angle, Rob. I'll, I'll send it to you about him, but it, it's not adding up. And then Pat, do you mind me bringing up the Nicolas Cage Snake Eyes thing that happened? Go for it. So for all you guys, all the older people out there, there was a movie in 1998 called Snake Eyes with Nicolas Cage. I'm pretty sure some of you guys have seen this. In the movie, they're at a boxing match. A politician is assassinated in the movie and his name is Charles Kirkland. Okay? Think about Charlie Kirk. This is very, very weird. Okay? He was shot on the left side of his neck. The film takes place on September 10th. Rob, that's the, that's the The date of the fight? This is what we were talking about yesterday. This is what we were talking about yesterday. Um, Rob, that's the poster. And then the boxer who plays, who's in on the plan, who's doing a diversion.

• 2:01:11Speaker 07

  He wakes up on the ring. His name is Tyler, like Tyler Robinson, and he's called the Executioner. Okay? Weird. And then the tropical storm that hits in the, in the film is called Hurricane Jezebel. And for some of you guys that saw, um, Megan, uh, Megan Kelly just did a piece. That's the name of the online magazine that allegedly hired witches in August to put a hex on Charlie. And the film, parts of the film were, uh, filmed The Trump Taj Mahal and Hotel Casino and the secret camera which films the assassination. But the videographer doesn't let anyone know and guess what the tagline is of the movie Rob. Can you go to the how this is just random a random occurrence. Go to my um I think I sent it to you. I actually sent the photo.

• 2:01:52Speaker 07

  Uh really look at this. Look at the tagline. Believe everything except your eyes. That's the tagline like that's just a random, random occurrence, but I just wanted people know because that's what's. That's what Pat the official narrative that they're telling us. I don't think it's official. I don't believe it.

• 2:02:07Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, that's the problem with hiding stuff today. You can't do it.

• 2:02:13Speaker 07

  Thank you.

• 2:02:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't do it today. You got thirty five hundred phones that recorded things. You think you're going to be able to get away with it this time around? You're not going to be able to get away with it this time around. People are going to have to find and by the way, Cash Patel has the opportunity. This time around to increase the faith in the FBI in ways we've not seen before if he does a couple of things.

• 2:02:33Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 2:02:33Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is one of them, especially right now with what happened. Uh whether they'll get to the bottom of it or not, I don't know. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 2:02:40Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I think we're all asking the right questions that need to be asked and again. Ask questions. Don't come up with your own conclusions. I see what's going on on the internet. Everybody's a crime scene investigator at this point. Everybody's an investigative journalist. Everybody's a forensic analyst. Form your opinions, ask questions, don't state conclusions. You know what the snake eyes think? This is certainly eerie. You know, they say. The does life imitate art? Does art imitate life? It's certainly eerie. I'm not saying this movie with Nicolas Cage. From nineteen ninety eight has anything to do with the murder of Charlie Kirk. What I'm seeing out there that is actually very upsetting is now they're questioning Erica Kirk's. Involvement in Charlie's assassination.

• 2:03:25Speaker 07

  Crazy. That's that's just crazy.

• 2:03:26Adam Sosnick?

  I agree with you, but do you not see what's going on? I've seen it as far fetched as um it was an inside job, someone on the uh. Turning point team, you know, to the point where Erica Kirk, it was a setup. She married Charlie because it was a setup from a foreign agency, whatever it may be. Save the crocodile tears. You weren't really crying. So there's allegations that.

• 2:03:52Adam Sosnick?

  Erica Kirk had him assassinated so she could take over

• 2:03:56Speaker 07

  Stupid, yeah.

• 2:03:58Adam Sosnick?

  Let's live in reality for a second. Ask all these crazy questions. Don't draw conclusions because at some point there's a grieving widow who's like, oh my God. They're using my husband's assassination for views and clicks and fodder. And it tends to be somewhat disastrous for her.

• 2:04:18Speaker 07

  Yeah, see, I don't believe like, Adam, with every situation, there's gonna be crazy. But you know who I believe? Marine and army snipers who are professionals at this. That's all they know, saying this is not how it happened. This is not what it looks like. Tyler Robinson still hasn't admitted to doing it. His furry boyfriend is missing now, okay? And Rob, where's the video of George Zinn? And I don't care, guys, I'm gonna sit on this. This is one of the major pieces of evidence that nobody, everybody's kind of dished it off because they found child porn on his phone. George Zinn, immediately, look at this, guys. The moment it happens, look, Charlie's been shot. Look at the middle of your screen. He stands up right there, he almost falls and he's right in the middle. He's waving his hat.

• 2:05:02Speaker 07

  He's wait, immediately, people are running, what the hell happened? Somebody's been shot? Look at him. Look at him. He knows what was happening. Let's stop playing games.

• 2:05:11Adam Sosnick?

  How long does this video go for?

• 2:05:13Speaker 07

  No, that's it, Adam.

• 2:05:13Adam Sosnick?

  It's very weird.

• 2:05:14Speaker 07

  No, it's very weird, but hear me out. Just because they

• 2:05:17Adam Sosnick?

  How long was this after the actual

• 2:05:18Speaker 07

  Adam, it just was shot. He's just shot. Look at everybody starting to react. Watch this. Watch, now boom, boom, Charlie's been shot. People don't know what's happening. They're starting to run.

• 2:05:25Adam Sosnick?

  Before that, because they're on the ground, right?

• 2:05:27Speaker 07

  No, right now, right now, right now, he's just been shot. This guy knows in an improv moment, I'm gonna try to help this shooter that I had no idea what was gonna happen. And he does that. That guy is in on it. That guy knows what was gonna happen. And the fact that they're brushing him off because he had child porn.

• 2:05:43Adam Sosnick?

  Did they have him in custody right now?

• 2:05:44Speaker 07

  Adam, I don't, he's been arrested, but if he bailed himself out, he's probably out.

• 2:05:48Adam Sosnick?

  They, they know where to find him.

• 2:05:50Speaker 07

  No, they know where to find him.

• 2:05:50Adam Sosnick?

  Tyler Robinson's in jail. And where's the Tyler, uh, the Wiggs kid?

• 2:05:54Speaker 07

  The boyfriend vanished. He disappeared. I don't even know

• 2:05:58Adam Sosnick?

  Allegedly, let's find out where this guy is. He can't just be running. Is he on the run? What do you mean?

• 2:06:02Speaker 07

  Adam, you have a computer in front of you? Look it up, he vanished, he disappeared.

• 2:06:05Adam Sosnick?

  Well, there's an article here.

• 2:06:06Speaker 07

  Nobody knows where he is. So what I'm saying-

• 2:06:08Adam Sosnick?

  The trans boyfriend of Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin fled their former love nest.

• 2:06:12Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:06:12Adam Sosnick?

  He fled their love nest.

• 2:06:13Speaker 07

  Yeah, their furry hairy fur, whatever the hell you want to call it. Their trans furry nest.

• 2:06:17Adam Sosnick?

  And the locals say they never want to see him again.

• 2:06:18Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:06:19Adam Sosnick?

  He was led away for questioning when police swooped in.

• 2:06:21Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:06:22Adam Sosnick?

  To their three bed condo they shared. Shaken neighbors say the part time plumber has not been back.

• 2:06:28Speaker 07

  He's a, that kid's a plumber?

• 2:06:30Adam Sosnick?

  Part time.

• 2:06:30Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:06:31Adam Sosnick?

  The one declaring good riddance, I never want to see either of them again.

• 2:06:34Speaker 07

  Guess what? Don't be surprised if you, Adam, don't be surprised.

• 2:06:36Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know if he fled.

• 2:06:37Speaker 07

  Adam.

• 2:06:37Adam Sosnick?

  I think this is the Daily Mail gaslighting us. He moved.

• 2:06:40Speaker 07

  Adam, don't be surprised if you never hear from him again, or he winds up-

• 2:06:44Adam Sosnick?

  Well.

• 2:06:44Speaker 07

  Gone. Like he winds up dead.

• 2:06:45Adam Sosnick?

  If the FBI has, or the police of Utah want to have any credibility, you're going to know exactly where this kid is.

• 2:06:51Speaker 07

  They don't know. At all times. Well, where is he? Well, I want to know where he is.

• 2:06:54Adam Sosnick?

  I guarantee you they know where they is, dude.

• 2:06:55Speaker 07

  And I think, like I said last time, Pat, George Zinn is such a key element because from his behavior and the way that he's doing it, they're trying to make us look away because of the child porn, which is horrible, but that guy knew what was going to happen. If you're a, if you're a sane person, Adam, that guy, there's no way, put yourself in this, in this situation, Pat. You're watching, by the way, you've been at nine 11, you saw the towers hit, you were involved with this whole Boston bombing thing. You just happen to be a one in two billion chance, sitting there and you're watching Charlie Kirk speak. And the moment a bullet hits him in the throat, you stand up and you go, look at me. Give me a freaking break.

• 2:07:33Adam Sosnick?

  He's obviously mentally unstable.

• 2:07:35Speaker 07

  No, no, no. That, he's the key element. He's the key. What did you know?

• 2:07:38Adam Sosnick?

  Benny, let's not jump to conclusions on this, dude.

• 2:07:40Speaker 07

  Adam, I'm a grown man. I know how to speak for myself.

• 2:07:43Adam Sosnick?

  I'm just saying, you're jumping-

• 2:07:44Speaker 07

  I'm not jumping.

• 2:07:45Adam Sosnick?

  And leaping to conclusions.

• 2:07:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know. I gotta tell you, for, if, what is the immediate reaction when there's a shooting in a place or something? Everybody runs. You run towards it.

• 2:07:55Speaker 07

  You're texting Sheehanee.

• 2:07:56Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a little weird.

• 2:07:57Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, it's very weird.

• 2:07:58Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a little weird, especially with the suspect background that you have. So where I'm going to with this is-

• 2:08:02Speaker 07

  Look at that, unbelievable.

• 2:08:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, I, I want, I, I want to know exactly what happened here.

• 2:08:08Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you.

• 2:08:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to know exactly what happened here. That's what I want to know.

• 2:08:13Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, scale of one to 10, how much do you trust the authorities at this point?

• 2:08:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Whether it's the FBI, whether it's Cash Patel, whether it's Utah State Police, how much do you trust them to do the right thing?

• 2:08:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you believe the official narrative of Charlie Kirk's, that is what, Tyler Robinson?

• 2:08:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 2:08:26Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 2:08:27Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, just trust them. Hell no.

• 2:08:30Patrick Bet-David?

  That is Tyler?

• 2:08:31Tom Ellsworth?

  That's not what I'm saying.

• 2:08:32Patrick Bet-David?

  But what is the narrative though?

• 2:08:33Tom Ellsworth?

  How much do you trust them to do the right thing?

• 2:08:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, trust to do the right thing?

• 2:08:37Tom Ellsworth?

  That's three questions.

• 2:08:37Adam Sosnick?

  Do I trust the narrative?

• 2:08:38Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm asking one question.

• 2:08:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So do I trust that they'll do the right thing?

• 2:08:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, that's the only question I'm asking.

• 2:08:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna give you an answer, that's gonna be a weird answer. I, I, I trust that they know, if they get it right here, their credibility will go to the roof in ways we've never seen before, but I trust they're gonna do, of that happening is thirty, thirty percent, thirty-five percent.

• 2:09:01Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm right there with you.

• 2:09:01Patrick Bet-David?

  We don't trust.

• 2:09:02Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm right there with you. I'm thirty-three sixty-six.

• 2:09:04Speaker 07

  Adam, James Comey just got indicted and he's your law enforcement. I don't give a damn who it is. Adam, evil lives in everybody. Adam, evil lives in every, like, bro, you have family members that are evil.

• 2:09:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinnie, remember, remember, hang on guys.

• 2:09:18Speaker 07

  People in power can be evil.

• 2:09:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam, to be fair, Adam, no emotion.

• 2:09:22Speaker 07

  No, I know, it's, it's, what amazes me is your, your shock of like, wait, you mean the government and officials in the government would lie? Adam, that's all they do and that's why their trust is at an all-time low. Nobody trusts the government.

• 2:09:35Tom Ellsworth?

  But this is a new regime.

• 2:09:37Speaker 07

  Adam, the, Adam.

• 2:09:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Trump, Cash Patel.

• 2:09:39Speaker 07

  The agency, the agency itself, I don't trust anybody because when they come in, Adam, their tune changes. So you just have, I hope to God, and I pray, and I have the hope that he told me to, hope that somebody in there goes, wait a minute, you cannot let this guy die in vain. There's no freaking way. Cause your narrative is wrong, you're off. Figure it out, okay? Cause we're not stupid. He keeps saying it, and he's right. There was three thousand people there. Everybody in their mouth, we don't even know, a lot of these people haven't posted anything. This, this, this, this.

• 2:10:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't like this.

• 2:10:08Speaker 07

  I want that camera footage.

• 2:10:10Tom Ellsworth?

  You're asking a lot of questions and there's validity to your questions. Do you trust Trump? Do you trust these people? I think what Vinnie is saying is his, and not to speak for Pat, but I think Pat just spoke for himself, I don't trust the narrative on Tyler. It doesn't sound like other people here trust the narrative on Tyler. And I've got low trust for the, um... The DOJ right now, they've an opportunity to get it right. And I've got low trust for that. I can't answer the question in this, do I trust Cash or Bondi or Trump? And you're asking about names. I'm only going to say that it hasn't been that long that Cash and Bondi have been in there. And that the FBI has got a lot of rotten corners. Yeah, thank you.

• 2:10:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, I don't mind Adam being skeptical. I actually like it that, that, you know, Adam's taking a position that he's taken.

• 2:10:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, I'm agreeing with that, but he was asking about, do you trust people? And I'm saying what I don't trust right now is administration of DOJ and the narrative.

• 2:11:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Everything for me, Adam, is odds.

• 2:11:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Everything for me is odds. You hire somebody and you say, odds are 60% this guy's going to be a good hire. You don't say 100% this guy's going to be great. You don't know, odds are. And it takes them, you marry somebody, odds are this temperament's going to work with my temperament. Odds are, you don't know for a fact. I'm just saying there's a high opportunity here to gain the trust of the American people. If they get this right, but it just, it, it looks very, very suspicious. Very, very suspicious. Anyways, gang, for some of you guys that are watching this, that would like to be with us. When Eric Trump is coming live to the podcast, and by the way, platinum members. You're going to get a chance to take a picture with the man as well. I can't tell you the date because it's only two members only.

• 2:11:51Patrick Bet-David?

  If you want to be a member of our cigar room lounge.

• 2:11:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to boardroom cigar, boardroom cigar lounge. Go to memberships, submit your applications. It says join now, it's got the prices there, but it's not about the price. The first of fill out the applications because it's a background check process that we go through. All the way at the bottom, one of our guys will get ahold of you. You're going to get a chance to meet Eric Trump. Some people say he may run one day, who knows? We got a lot of things to ask him about what he thinks with 2028, any of that stuff. So that's going to be available to you for those guys that want to apply for that. And we will give the dates to those that become members of when it's going to be. But it's going to be very, very soon. And if you're somebody that watches her taking, they love the show as much as I do. And you want to nominate certain ladies to be a part of it, or you yourself are watching and saying, I want to, I want to be considered. We have the form available as well, Rob.

• 2:12:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I think that one you pinned up to the top in the chat and the comment section for you to do that. Anyways, having said that, God bless, have a great weekend. We'll do it again next week. Bye bye, bye bye.

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