Minneapolis Trans Shooter, Newsom FEAR MONGERS, Trump's Health & Influencer Dark Money EXPOSED | PBD Podcast | Ep. 639

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover the Minneapolis church massacre by transgender shooter Robin Westman, Gavin Newsom’s wild new Trump accusations, and a secret dark money program funneling cash to influencers to push Democratic messaging. ------ Ⓜ️ JOIN THE PBD PODCAST CIRCLES COMMUNITY: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/40lR90L⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/40lR90L 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 1:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, what's your plan? The future looks bright.

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• 1:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, gang. So, Rob, episode 6. Thirty-nine. Thirty-nine. Great to be with y'all. We got a lot of stuff to cover here today.

• 1:36Patrick Bet-David?

  We got some dark money being sent to Democratic influencers, which is very interesting. Paying them $8,000 a month. This is a New York Post story. And apparently, they came up with a list of some of the names that they're speculating. Correct or not, we don't know. Obviously... We have to discuss the tragic event that took place with the transgender Minneapolis shooter exposes the spiritual warfare in America. We got many, many stories with that one. Many videos and things to react to with that one. Gavin Newsom, on another interview, I think every time he goes and does these interviews, it's almost like he's pleading for people to feel sorry for him. "I can't tell you how many times people send me Trump 2028 hats. They sent me two more the

• 2:18Patrick Bet-David?

  other day." Do you realize like a troll when they see that, that's like an opening. It's like, "Thank you, I know how to upset this guy." I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a thousand of them sent to him the next couple of weeks. Not something to do.

• 2:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's send him a future look bright hat.

• 2:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what he did the other day? He said, "You know how tough it is when somebody calls you newscom?" The next day, that newscom was trending on X. Stop talking about it. You'll bring any attention to it. But he's definitely out there campaigning to be the president. Beverly Hills Unified School District Board members vote to fly Israel flags inside their schools. Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook sues Trump. Tom's got a lot of things to say about that. Trump looks terrible. Why won't the press ask him what's wrong? A lot of people are talking about his hand health. Videos going around saying he's not doing well. Trump's approval rating up five points. Vanity Fair staff, ready for this, folks, threatens to

• 3:12Patrick Bet-David?

  walk out the mother effing door if Melania Trump is on the cover. Can you imagine that? You're working there, they're thinking about putting Melania Trump, the first lady, on the cover. I'm gonna walk out if you put her on that magazine. In a heartbeat. I'm not only gonna put her on the cover, I'm gonna put her on the back, in the middle, on posters in the office, make sure that girl's desk to say, "You don't make the decisions here, buddy. We're gonna make that on the cover of it, but..."

• 3:38Tom Ellsworth?

  And it would improve the quality of the magazine if all those people left.

• 3:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Trump's DC takeover caused violence, ready for this, to plummet 45%. Dem mayor admits as resident, biz owners say, "We feel much more safe." Shocking poll shows how many Americans really back Trump's military takeover of top crime written cities. I got a, I got a poll, I got a... A stat I want to share with you guys that I shared, I think yesterday, I don't know when it was, a couple of days ago when I shared it about, Rob, if you have that one, mass shooting rates by demo from 2015 to 2025, and it breaks down Native Americans, Hispanics, whites, we'll get to this, black, Asian, trans, non-binary, wait till you see some of these stats here. Again, I said we got some things from Newsom, we got a lot of stuff there.

• 4:24Patrick Bet-David?

  US tariffs on India hit 50% as Donald Trump and Modi ties sour. Modi ignoring Trump's call after tariff crisis. That's interesting. Annunciation Catholics school shooting in Minneapolis, what we know about the suspect, of course, we got a lot of things to talk there. Iran, after the shock of war, Iranians yearning for change. They want a revolution, something to change with a new person taking over. I wonder who that's going to be that's going to go out there and do the work for that to become a reality. Maybe someone's going to be able to go out there and make some noise, but we'll see. Russia warning as Vladimir Putin close to first nuclear bomb test in 35 years. You think maybe he's

• 5:04Patrick Bet-David?

  sending a message to a guy right next to him that's a good dancer? Maybe, who knows? And by the way, Russia's at a point right now where this story is a very interesting story. New York Post, they're at a point right now in Russia that they're recruiting the last chance for soldiers with HIV and STDs, with promises of free healthcare if they fight against Ukraine. I mean, some of these things, it's just, you're not going to be able to fix some of the things that these guys are dealing with, but it is what it is. Maybe the way they're going to scare them, they're going to be like, I'm going to spread this on you, I'm going to do something to you. I don't know. I don't know the strategy behind it, but I'm sure they're thinking about some strategies. US economy surges past expectations as spending investment soar. The economy expanded 3.3%

• 5:45Patrick Bet-David?

  in Q2 with growth even stronger than initially thought, and jobless claims edged down to 229. And last Wednesday, we didn't cover the little Nas X stories, so we definitely have to go to that for Vinnie to share what happened there, and we're excited about that story. I know it's a lot of exciting clips, you know, when he's walking around in his white thong or whatever you want to call it. Boots, white boots. And then, you know, something happened, which I appreciate. I think we need more of this. That I don't think we do enough. I think this is what's missing in American politics, that we just need to get down to, to, to business. Mexico senators fight during session over speaking rights. It's awesome.

• 6:28Patrick Bet-David?

  When you see it, please share this with a local senator of yours and get, get a little bit tougher, you know, and kind of, but, but we need some more eyeballs when senators get together. And these guys actually kept going, fighting guys, shooting, you know, pushing the camera guy down, the sound guy. Like Kevin James from that holding it. It's like, dude, I'm not even doing anything. That guy gets pushed to the ground. And he's standing over him. You got, it's great highlights. And you know how four weeks ago, we went to LA for the Jubilee thing, the, the Jubilee Rob, I don't know if you have that clip from Jubilee. I want to show you because they just told us, we didn't even know when it was gonna come out. But it's coming out this Sunday. I hung out with 20 of my best friends in the world. And I actually, I have to tell you, I enjoyed it. And the first one, she just went after me hard. Listen to this one. Go ahead.

• 7:11Tom Ellsworth?

  The United States of Patrick, but David. This is the United States of America.

• 7:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Would you take money from a capitalist to help you go see specialist?

• 7:17Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, yeah, sure. Why not?

• 7:19Patrick Bet-David?

  But would you also be open to seeing somebody else I choose as a psychologist that may?

• 7:23Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 7:24Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not.

• 7:24Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 7:25Patrick Bet-David?

  When you're offering people here jobs, right? You're saying that. They would have to pay you money to get that. So in reality, you're trying to convince them to pay you money to be part of your company. Defaming, be very careful defaming. We know, you don't know the facts. My first claim is incentive is the engine of capitalism. Remove it and the system fails. My next claim is capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system. My next claim is if all the money in the world were divided equally, it would return to the same pockets within five years. My final claim is the US is more socialist than capitalist today. If you hate the system, you're antisocialist. I'm Patrick, but David, I'm an entrepreneur and founder of PBD Podcast. Today, I'm surrounded by 20 anti-capitalists.

• 8:10Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go.

• 8:11Tom Ellsworth?

  I was there.

• 8:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Sunday, Sunday, it comes out. I don't know what time, but apparently Sunday is gonna come out. I, I, I'm so disconnected from it that I myself want to see it to see what happened because some of these guys were screaming upset. You know, one guy was there, uh, uh, he was Adam's favorite, uh, you know, uh, she was very attractive, so.

• 8:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 8:31Patrick Bet-David?

  He was there and we said, we spoke, but, but the reality of it was, it was awesome. Okay, it was awesome. Handful of them were educated, you know, telling history and it was actually very, very good exercise. I enjoyed it. And I'm looking forward to doing many of these. So Sunday sometime this will come out. And aside from that, uh, guys, remember this, moving forward on Manect, on the circle, all the notes we have, it's free. You can go download the circle, follow the stories with us. All you have to do is go to, uh, download Manect, go to the circle, PBD Podcast Circle, look for it, any of these QR codes will take you there.

• 9:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Join free. If you want to be able to communicate with others, pay your 10 bucks a month. I think whatever the next rate is, and then you, the next rate will give you more access, videos, all that other stuff. And especially last week, when we posted a video with Tom doing the push, uh, the, what do you call it, benching, uh, 135 pounds, absolutely crushed it.

• 9:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Monster.

• 9:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Killed it, Tom. You're the new mayor now. And I got so much hate telling me I was doing half.

• 9:32Tom Ellsworth?

  What?

• 9:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Bench presses. So I have to go and do it again and I'm gonna pause and I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna pause. And what I'm probably gonna do after today is I'm gonna do that with a pause to see how many I'll do, but it'll be only on the circle.

• 9:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Do a story.

• 9:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna do a pause. I'll be like, how you doing? And then boom.

• 9:51Tom Ellsworth?

  But also you do the whole leg up, like this whole deal. This is.

• 9:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, they're saying, they're saying I'm not going straight enough and I, and I like being challenged. So maybe if I do straight arms, I can only do three of them, four of them, but we'll test it out. We'll test it out. Okay. All right. So let's get into the story. Let's get into the story. Let's get into the story. First story I want to get into is the tragic event that took place in Minneapolis. Okay. Annunciation Catholic school shooting in Minneapolis, what we know about the suspect. Rob, is this a video you got on it, or is this something I'm reading?

• 10:23Tom Ellsworth?

  I do, I have some video.

• 10:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me just read this to you, and then I'll come to you, Rob. So, the suspected shooter of Annunciation Catholic School Minneapolis, identified by law enforcement sources as Robert or Robin Westman, Jake Tapper likes to call him Robin, opened fire during a morning mass in Wednesday, killing two children and injuring 17 others, including 14 children with two in critical condition. According to police reports, court record records indicate that in 2019, a juvenile named Robert Westman, whose mother, Mary Grace Westman, was the parish secretary at Annunciation until her 2021 retirement legally changed their name to Robin, with the mother stating minor child identifies as female and wants her name to reflect that identification. Police described the attacker as a male dressed in black, carrying a black rifle, who committed

• 11:09Patrick Bet-David?

  suicide after the shooting with Minneapolis Police Department, stating there's no active threat to the community at this time, and shooter is contained. The suspect's relationship to the school remains unknown, and it's unconfirmed whether Westman had any connection to students or staff, though disturbing YouTube videos since deleted and unverified by authorities, posted under the name Robin Westman showed handwritten notebook, pages and weapon with messages painted on them. Go ahead, Rob.

• 11:41Tom Ellsworth?

  The Minneapolis Star Tribune just does another piece of the puzzle as to who the shooter was. The Minneapolis Star Tribune says, according to court records, because there's been some confusion about what the shooter's name was.

• 11:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 11:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Robin Westman's mother applied to change her child's name in 2019. It was, at one point, Robert Paul Westman.

• 11:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Correct.

• 11:59Tom Ellsworth?

  But since she identifies as a female and wants her name to reflect that identification, was underage.

• 12:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You're still doing that, and you're wondering why. Rob, can you pull up that data, and then I'm gonna go to a couple of you guys. Tom, I'm gonna come to you first. Can you pull up that stat? Check this out, folks. So, this is data showing mass shooting rates by demo from 2015 to 2025. Look at the one to the left. Trans, non-binary.

• 12:25Patrick Bet-David?

  is the highest. Then it's Asians, then it's blacks, then it's whites, then it's Hispanics. Like Hispanics, this is not the, you know, anything they do. Then it's Native Americans, not at all. But why is that? Why are we not paying attention more to data to see what's going on here? You think we could prevent maybe some of these things have happened in the future? You know how many parents are concerned nowadays? I'm at a game the other day with another parent. And this parent who's got his daughter there, 13 year old daughter, tall. She's coming talking to us. There's a couple thousand people there. The entire time he's looking at, hey, look at that guy. Who is that guy? Do you know that guy? Why is that guy walking around? Why is this guy doing this? He was so paranoid the entire time.

• 13:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, what's your concern? And he says, what do you mean, what's my concern? Are you not worried about all the school shootings that's happening? This was a week ago. Now this happens. Parents are truly worried about what's going on because they don't want to see something like this happen at their school. Tom, your thoughts on the story here?

• 13:24Tom Ellsworth?

  So I, I have a couple of different thoughts. Uh, my wife is a teacher and she's at a school here in Fort Lauderdale. She does training every year, lockdown training. Uh, God bless the entrepreneurs that are inventing new devices that are helping, that are quick locks and things to help contain schools and things. But we talk about this every year. And there's two elements here that really, that anger her and anger me. And the first element is the way the Democrats handle this. And I'm not making it political. I'm just describing the playbook. Find a victim, politicize it, push that victim against conservatives as being absolutely, you know, repressed. And trans is the new victim.

• 14:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Protect trans, politicize trans, push them against conservatives. The conservatives are trying to repress the trans. Well, look, that may be a tremendous.

• 14:22Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, effort of change that happened in 1968 with civil rights legislation when it was needed. Now you're finding made up victims and we're not getting to the root cause. There are some people who are trans that really are sexually confused and are peaceful people and they don't know what's up and they feel this way and so they want to be this. There's other people, the data is in, the data is here, that there is a number of people and it is a significant percent of people in the trans community who are trans and talk about it, friends of trans talk about it, that say there's something going on, that there's something deeper and emotional and troubling. The data is in now. In Tennessee, it was a trans shooter.

• 15:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Now in Minneapolis, it was a trans shooter. This is bothersome because you see it in the people. They need help, they need assistance, they need people to come alongside. They don't need the mom right now refusing to cooperate with the authorities on interviews. Right now, the mother of the shooter, this morning, two different articles I read, is allegedly refusing to cooperate with the authorities and ask questions as they are trying, the shooter's gone. The shooter took his, referred to as her by identification, he said, "I'm identifying a woman." So, Robert, identifying as Robin, took his own life. He's gone. But they're trying to get to the mother, they want to talk to her, not in her moment of grief. They want to understand this.

• 15:49Tom Ellsworth?

  The police, this is like FBI profilers, they want to understand what's going on here. And we as a nation, the media is flying, absolutely staying in lockstep with the liberal Democrats. Find a victim, politicize it, push it against conservatives, they are the ones repressing it. No, in this case, that's what's going on. We have data and in the trans community, we need to come together as a nation and say, wherever you are, if you're troubled, you've got things going on, you need help. And then parents, as the ones that were prosecuted in Michigan, have to lock up their weapons. There's a responsibility there. But gun control is not the full answer here. You've got people that need help.

• 16:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, when you're seeing stories like this, that's what?

• 16:37Speaker 06

  That's a magazine called Eugene Weekly, Pat. And look at the subliminal message, "Are you triggered?" And they put, "As the Trump administration attacks trans people, some queer folks are armed and ready to..."

• 16:48Tom Ellsworth?

  To push back.

• 16:49Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what the hell are you talking about?

• 16:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Conservatives are repressing you.

• 16:53Patrick Bet-David?

  That is, that's an.

• 16:54Tom Ellsworth?

  You need to fight back.

• 16:55Patrick Bet-David?

  And what, look, look at that symbol. What are you trying to say, bro? Bro, because that's a bro. Mumma, like, what are you talking about?

• 17:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Or do they know what's going on in their minds?

• 17:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you get to that one video I sent you, Rob? This is a video of, say, you know, the trans guy, you know, the famous trans guy on TikTok. Get angry. Oh, yeah. Have you seen this guy? That guy scares the hell out of me. Get angry. That guy's scary. Yeah, can you play, uh, uh, uh, I think that, yeah, this one. God, my God, this is so scary. Look at this. Angry.

• 17:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, God.

• 17:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Go out, buy a gun.

• 17:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Jeez. It's okay to be angry. Oh, my God. Get out of my face now!

• 17:34Speaker 06

  If you try to stop me from going into a woman's bathroom. Excuse me, it's ma'am. Be the last mistake you ever make. It is ma'am.

• 17:40Speaker 04

  Find that anger.

• 17:44Speaker 04

  Harness it to do good in the world.

• 17:49Patrick Bet-David?

  These are the things that guy drew up? Yes. Killed those kids? Yep. This is what the, the female guy.

• 17:54Speaker 04

  This anger.

• 17:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Done, man. We're gonna take a fucking god.

• 17:59Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not comedy. These are troubled people that need help.

• 18:02Speaker 04

  Probably my primary source of motivation. You want to call me sir again? The thing is, you don't have to leave. Be all alone.

• 18:10Tom Ellsworth?

  I lose everything.

• 18:11Speaker 04

  For everything that I do.

• 18:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Cut that out now, or you'll go home and remember.

• 18:15Patrick Bet-David?

  That's when it first started.

• 18:17Tom Ellsworth?

  It was a call to action or call to arms. It's scart! Is it? It's scart!

• 18:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Don't be afraid to show your anger.

• 18:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, my God.

• 18:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, God.

• 18:30Patrick Bet-David?

  What is that?

• 18:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Let me tell you, it's deeper and it's also spiritual, folks. No one wants to talk about it. There is a spiritual side to this, that these people in their confusion, in their gender dysphoria are also, you don't tell me that that is normal, rational people. There is a spiritual side to this, and people who understand it know I'm speaking the truth.

• 18:49Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm gonna ask Rob, Pat, remember, and I've told Pat and the crew three times during his 11-minute video, and I had to watch it for context. Can you, before I get into this, Pat, if you don't mind, this is just the beginning of the video. Guys. Tell me.

• 19:03Tom Ellsworth?

  That's him.

• 19:04Patrick Bet-David?

  This is, this is his voice at the beginning. He has a Walter White photo from Breaking Bad. He's, by the way, his normal voice is like this. And I've got goosebumps right now, Pat. Tell me how demonic and possessed this voice is. This is the video he did before he went on shoot. Listen to this voice.

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  The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. A Nintendo Switch 2 exclusive. Game and system sold separately. Game rated everyone 10 and up.

• 20:23Patrick Bet-David?

  That's him. That's him. And then the video starts in his house. Okay. And there's three different instances, Rob, that we don't have to show right now. But I want to say this right now. This is what makes people transphobic. Okay. Not your identity, but the fact that you have, clearly have a mental issue. And then it manifests into killing innocent people, innocent children praying in church. That's what makes me transphobic. Not because you want to call yourself Sarah and you were born John. All right. And this guy, by the way, the mom cosigning. And look about his, this wasn't random. And listen to the mentality, guys, of how lost and confused this kid is. These are quotes from his manifesto. I only keep the long hair because it's pretty much my last shred of being trans. I am tired of being trans.

• 21:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I wish I never brainwashed myself. I regret being trans. I wish I was a girl. And I just know I cannot achieve that body with the technology we have today. And I can't afford it. Okay. This wasn't some happier fulfilled person. All right. It was eating him alive by confusion. Illness and despair. And when you have a system, Pat, when the world is telling him, "Hey, it's okay. It's okay. Live your truth." You want to chop off your genitalia? Go and do it. "Hey, kids, is this what you want?" Do it. And this is a pattern. All right? Minnesota, this guy, trans. Republican Party firebombing, gender fluid. Nashville shooter, trans. Colorado Tesla arsonist, trans. Colorado shooter, nine binary. Aberdeen shooter, trans. Denver shooter, trans. Iowa shooter, gender, trans, fluid.

• 21:52Patrick Bet-David?

  AMC, uh, the guy that was stabbing, trans. Okay? And we know, and this is the one thing that got me, me and Rob were talking about this. Is it weird to anybody else? The moment this happens, within one hour, we know who he is, his history, his family, his school, the videos. But when a guy, Thomas Crooks, who's kind of in the same- Stay here. No, I am. He shoots the president, Tom. We don't know nothing about that guy, and we still don't. I'm definitely staying here. Uh, and then you hear the guy's voice, and you know what? I thought about this. It's not their fault. Okay? It's not this trans confused mentally ill person's fault. It's the media, okay? It's academia, and it's politicians who don't say, "Hey, you should stop."

• 22:32Patrick Bet-David?

  They promote it, Tom. Like Tim Walz, the Minnesota's governor, uh, has turned his state, he turned it into a sanctuary, a place for kids to receive, uh, trans medical services. And he bragged that making Minnesota a safe haven for trans people. And Pat showed the chart. I'm just, I'm just done, guys. I am done enabling, I'm done pretending that this is just another lifestyle. It's not. They're mentally unstable. They need help. They don't need us cosigning. They need actual psychiatrists. They need people to help them, not cosign their freaking delusion. And the LGBT community, this is the T. The Ts have single-handedly dismantled the progress that gay people have made to gain the public's trust. Shame on

• 23:15Patrick Bet-David?

  them. And all these guys that are, all these fake politicians saying, Pat, dude, save your thoughts. We don't need thoughts and prayers. Shame on you. Yes, the hell they do. Adam. No, you're absolutely right, Vinny. Vinny's, uh, absolutely right. So is Tom about the lack of God in society. So, uh, there's three types of genders, and I think it's fair to say this. There's men, there's female, and then there's the mentally ill. And I think if we can't identify the fact that a lot of these shooters are trans and are dealing with massive, massive mental problems, what are we talking about here? You know, step number one is admit you have a problem. Here's something that we've talked about. I think Bill Maher made this famous about how every generation is becoming more and more LGBT

• 24:00Patrick Bet-David?

  friendly or identifying as that. And I gotta be honest with you, we talk about every single topic here. Nobody's scared of the Ls, the Gs, the Bs. We're focused squarely on the Ts. What is going on here? So all these shooters happen to be T. We saw that previous stat. I don't know if you can show that again, Rob, just for the audience. Something's going on here with the Ts. How can we not address this? So I broke it down to three. There it is right there. I broke it down to three major reasons why these school shooters happen. And I would love to get your guys' input. Number one, there's just massive, massive hate and grievance and resentment and revenge and V for vendetta. I think we can all agree upon that. Number two is social isolation.

• 24:44Patrick Bet-David?

  They're isolated. A lot of it is sexual frustration. They don't know what's going on. They're young, they're 18, they haven't, they don't know how to, this outlet. And I'm assuming a lot of them haven't had sexual outlets to deal with any of this. The last one is the, is the biggest problem, I think, going on with all young people. It's a lack of meaning and purpose in your life. We covered this the other day about people don't have meaning anymore. They're looking for meaning. A lot of times you find meaning in community, or in religion, or in God, or in family. Covid basically exacerbated this problem. But what happens is, you know, a lot of these kids, the average age of a school shooter is, guess what age? 18. So they're high school seniors

• 25:26Patrick Bet-David?

  on the, on average, and they're, they're filled with rage and resentment. And they lack meaning and purpose. And they're, they write a manifesto, right? Talked about this. And what I've uncovered is this following thing. They'd rather be dead.

• 25:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Infamous rather than alive and irrelevant. And that's a shocking statement because all of them basically trace their inspiration to Columbine. Remember when that happened?

• 25:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 25:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I believe in 1999. So a lot of these people copycat Columbine. And this is the only way that they're going to find infamy and fame. And I don't actually don't think we should talk about their names ever because you're giving them their shine when they deserve none of it.

• 26:09Patrick Bet-David?

  But but but it doesn't help when the mother, you're 17, Pat, and the mother's like, you know what? Change your name. Do this. Your governor and all these people are making it. You got, it's your fault.

• 26:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinnie, great point.

• 26:19Patrick Bet-David?

  They made this, they made this person.

• 26:21Tom Ellsworth?

  I've talked about parents being held accountable. They should go to jail for a mass shooting. And people thought it was crazy a few years ago. Remember this?

• 26:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, this is ridiculous.

• 26:27Tom Ellsworth?

  And then in Michigan, they actually threw parents, I think, in jail for a shooting. Trans parents, trans parents, when they commit something like this, there's evidence. All right. So hold on. What? You're on these medicine.

• 26:39Patrick Bet-David?

  What did RFK say?

• 26:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. Uh, this is RFK, I believe, yesterday where he talks about the amount of SSRIs connected to school shootings.

• 26:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 26:47Speaker 04

  I certainly consider mass shootings a health crisis. And we are doing for the first time, real studies to find out what the etiology of that is. And we're looking for the first time at psychiatric drugs, you know? These kind of mass shooting, people have had guns in this country forever. When I was a kid, we had shooting clubs at our school. People, kids, my classmates and other people would bring a 22 rifle with their guns to school and park it in the parking lot. Nobody was shooting. So there's never been a time in America, in the history of humanity, and people walked into a crowd, into a church

• 27:28Speaker 04

  or a movie theater or a school or a crowded standards and just started randomly shooting. It's happening in our country. It's not happening around the world. And there are many other countries that have comparable levels of guns that we have in this country. We had comparable levels in the 40s, 50s and 60s and people weren't doing that. Something changed and it dramatically changed human behavior. And one of the culprits we need to examine is whether the fact that we are the most over-medicated nation in the world and that a lot of those are psychiatric drugs that have black box warnings on them. That warrant of suicidal and homicidal ideation.

• 28:13Speaker 04

  So we are doing those studies right now for the first time and we will have an answer.

• 28:19Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, you know what else he said he is they're about to release as well? The link to autism. Did you see that what they're about to release? They're about to release the report. If you go on X and just type in RFK autism, they're about to release what they figured out is the link to uh is that? Yeah, that's the one right there. Go ahead, Rob, from the beginning if you could.

• 28:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Autism, if I could just, I don't want to go too long because we have a lot of people, but the autism is such a tremendous horror show what's happening in our country and some other countries, but mostly our country. How are you doing on that?

• 28:54Speaker 04

  We are doing very well. We will have announcements as promised in September. We're finding interventions, certain interventions now that are clearly, almost certainly causing autism and we're going to be able to address those in September.

• 29:11Tom Ellsworth?

  It's such a big day. I'm looking forward to that day because there's something wrong when you see the kind of numbers that you have today versus 20 years ago.

• 29:21Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 29:21Tom Ellsworth?

  And those numbers, what are those numbers, Rob?

• 29:24Speaker 04

  Well, in 1970, the biggest epidemiological study in history was done in Wisconsin. They looked at 900,000 children and they were looking for autism. They knew what it looked like and they were very, very precise about it. And they found a incident rate of point seven, in other words, less than one per every 10,000 children. Today, our most recent numbers are one in every 31 kids. It's probably actually much worse than that because California, which has the best collection system, is reporting one out of every 19 children, American children, as autism, one in every 12.5 boys.

• 30:07Speaker 04

  So it's gone from one, less than one in 10,000 in 1970, one in 12.5 boys.

• 30:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Think of those numbers. So there has to be something artificially causing this, meaning a drug or? Something and I know you're looking very strongly at different things and I hope you can come out with that as soon as possible.

• 30:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it.

• 30:28Tom Ellsworth?

  So one in ten thousand.

• 30:30Patrick Bet-David?

  It's it's great that a guy like that is in there.

• 30:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 30:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Investigating this. I just hope there's no games, no cover up, no nothing. Just tell us what happened. Because you know, one of the one of the biggest things that we learned from the last time. The transgender typically linked to medication, what they're taking, what they're on. You have to find out if there's a pattern there. The entire time while I'm sitting here, all I'm all I'm typing is, what's the pattern amongst all the transgender shooters? What do we know about the pattern? Family upbringing patterns, troubled childhoods are common. Many shooters come from broken families, divorce, or unstable home environments, exposure to domestic violence.

• 31:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Or absent fathers. It's disproportionately reported. There is a pattern that is taking place. If you keep pitching woman power and all this other stuff, you know, we are equals and we're this and we're that and we're this. Guess what you're gonna do? You're gonna continue having broken families. Women are gonna be like, I don't need a man. There was a video the other day. They went to, uh. It was a Russia, I think it was. And they're walking around asking women, hey, do you see yourself equal as man? Would you want to? No, I don't want to do his job. I just want to be his wife. Do you see yourself as equal? No, no, I don't want to be a man. I want him to do it. I just want to be, I can't do what he does. And it was such a constant. And you've seen these clips from back in the days.

• 31:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Where they're interviewing people. Is the man the leader of the household? Yes, he is the leader of the household, not me. So if we continue going this direction, these patterns are gonna show up. I'm glad there is logic in the White House that's gonna get to the bottom of this. To see exactly what is taking place with these different issues. Let me get to the next story here that I got. Rob, can you pull up a couple of the clips with Gavin Newsom? So you know how a lot of people are wondering, they're asking the question, they're saying, is this guy posting the tweets? Or somebody else doing it? Who is posting it? Who's sharing these things? I'm trying to find out. I- is it really him? And people are like, no, it's probably him. Democrats are like, no, it's probably all him. He's doing such a great job.

• 32:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, he finally was asked about it. And look what he said. I don't know if you guys have seen this or not. Rob, go ahead and play this clip. Go for it. Personally approve the press office tweets that go out from your.

• 32:50Tom Ellsworth?

  There is a, a, a little, there's, we have a, a kill switch. Yeah. So to the extent that I don't kill it, uh, then I guess. How many do you kill? Less every day.

• 33:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, God. So now we know.

• 33:06Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not doing it.

• 33:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Those are not him. Of course not. Somebody else is doing it for him. It's not him doing it. Other guys are sending it to him. By the way, while he's there, there's a few things that he said. Everybody knows right now. Guys, just get ready. You're gonna see this face 24/7 and 2027. I just want you to get ready. 27, 28 is gonna be non-stop. Th- this is gonna be the Democratic candidate. Pritzker is constantly trying to get in there. Pritzker, in my opinion, is gonna be the Jeb Bush, that he's gonna get all the money, like the 140 million, and then this guy's gonna come up and be the candidate that's gonna, uh, fight. Now, it may be different. Pritzker may have the momentum. Something may come off with this guy in embarrassing stories, but how many more embarrassing stories gonna come out than you hooking up with your campaign manager, your best friend's wife? This guy, the amount of stories that's

• 33:51Patrick Bet-David?

  gonna come up with this guy's endless. But this is him complaining about, Rob, is this the hat situation?

• 33:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 33:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this one here.

• 33:58Tom Ellsworth?

  You're not saying you think they're gonna, Republicans are gonna stop? I don't think Donald Trump wants another election.

• 34:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, God. Nobody clap.

• 34:05Tom Ellsworth?

  You think for a second you want, I have two dozen Trump 2028 hats.

• 34:10Patrick Bet-David?

  He's about to get a thousand.

• 34:12Tom Ellsworth?

  His folks keep sending me.

• 34:16Tom Ellsworth?

  And you, and you think he's gonna run again? No, you don't, who spends $200 million on a ballroom at their home and then leaves the house?

• 34:24Patrick Bet-David?

  What? What? He's trying to say the ballroom he's building. By the way, go to the ballroom at the White House, Rob, if you can show the clip. They're building a ballroom at the White House, and he's saying he's building a ballroom to not leave the White House because he doesn't want another election in 2025, in 2020, whatever, 2028. That's the ballroom they're talking about at the White House. Nice ballroom. Beautiful. That many other presidents will be able to, uh, use. And Dana just confirmed that the UFC is gonna be there. He flew back from the event. So Trump's trying to bring something else to the White House that maybe we've not seen before. You know, he's bringing a completely different level. Is this the one about the?

• 35:00Tom Ellsworth?

  This is Caroline Levitt talking about who's funding the, uh, ballroom because it's coming from Trump and donors. Everybody, yeah.

• 35:08Speaker 02

  Before we get to questions, I do have one other announcement from the White House and from the President. We are proud to announce that the construction of the new White House ballroom will begin. For 150 years, Presidents, administrations, and White House staff have longed for a large event space on the White House complex that can hold substantially more guests than currently allowed. President Trump has expressed his commitment to solving this problem on behalf of future administrations and the American people. The White House is one of the most beautiful and historic buildings in the world, yet the White House is currently unable to host major functions honoring world leaders in other countries without having to install a large and unsightly tent approximately

• 35:51Speaker 02

  100 yards away from the main building's entrance. The White House State Ballroom will be a much-needed and exquisite addition of approximately 90,000 total square feet of innately designed and carefully crafted space with a seated capacity of 650 people, which is a significant increase from the 200-person seated capacity in the East Room of the White House. In recent weeks, President Trump has held several meetings with members of the White House staff, the National Park Service, the White House Military Office, and United States Secret...

• 36:24Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's it. That's it, okay, sounds good. Yeah, so you got a lot of other things that's coming up, you know, Trump doesn't want another election, you know, Newsom talking about, "It sickens me to the core," back to back to back, because that's another one, Rob, or...

• 36:38Tom Ellsworth?

  I know, I can get that, "Sickens me to the core."

• 36:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, "Sickens me to the core," just nonstop. So we know the guy's campaigning, Tom, when you're seeing these types of exchanges, you know, two dozens Trump 2028 hats, you know, somebody else tweeting for him, are you still in the same mindset, Tom, that Pritzker is going to be the leading guy for the Democrats in 2028?

• 36:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, I'm gonna, I'm, what I've said is the DNC wants Pritzker, and Pritzker is the guy in the Midwest, and I believe that's what the DNC card they want to play. I think they're worried about Gavin Newsom in Texas, I think they're worried about Gavin Newsom in Florida, and I think Gavin Newsom is... Going to discover that there is life on the other side of the Sierra Nevada Mountains. And as much as he's getting momentum through rage and anti-Trump and rage and he's getting a lot of followerships, he's getting a lot of attention. I still think that the DNC want to put their number on it, but I think he's not, he's campaigning and we're going to deal with three years of this.

• 37:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he's not going away. He's not going.

• 37:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, no, he's not going away. He's going to be in all those primaries, but I wonder is the DNC going to South Carolina him?

• 37:49Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll see.

• 37:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you know, we just talked about the shooting in Minnesota and I'm going to tie it to basically what California has done to America. You know, Minnesota is the California of the Midwest. And what California has done is they've exported all their weirdness and their dysfunction and their failed policies and their high taxes and their holly weirdness and trans is the new trend and it's seeped its way to the rest of America. You know, America, you know, as proud capitalists here, we've gotten a lot richer. GDP is up massive. Everyone's, if you own any assets, richer and richer, richer. At the same time, there's a weird thing going on in America where we're all fatter, sicker, dumber, woker, gayer, lonelier and depressed than ever.

• 38:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Speak for yourself.

• 38:36Tom Ellsworth?

  So that's, I'm doing better than ever. I don't know, are you lonelier than ever? Not me. But the reality is whatever, you know, they say that politics is downstream from culture. Now, culture kind of comes from Hollywood and movies and social media and look no further than California of where it kind of happens. And make no mistake, look at what's happened in Minnesota in the last five years. This is where, don't forget, COVID, George Floyd happened, all the riots that were going on there. Tampon Tim, we know that he couldn't identify what a woman was. This is where Ilhan Omar and the progressive Islamist extremism of the Somali community

• 39:18Tom Ellsworth?

  that has basically taken over you, a weak ineffective governor like Jacob Frey, who probably preys to a guy named Gavin Newsom. It's a disgusting thing to see a great American city like Minneapolis and they're taking their lead from the disgustingness that comes from California. What an amazing state that has basically been wrecked by Newsom. I did it because Rob did it. For all odds, I did it for just the Democrats. Gavin Newsom is number one right now, polymark and election betting odds at 31%. AOC is number two, Pete Buttigieg, Wes Moore, Shapiro and Kamala. And Pritzker's not even in the top.

• 39:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back up, Rob. Go back up.

• 39:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Dwayne The Rock.

• 39:59Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, the one, the one above it, assuming a little bit. Josh Shapiro, Donald Trump Jr., Whitmer Obama, Ron DeSantis, Haley.

• 40:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Nikki Haley.

• 40:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Nikki Haley.

• 40:10Tom Ellsworth?

  They got AOC as a number two for, for the Democrat frontrunner for, that's crazy.

• 40:15Patrick Bet-David?

  She's formidable.

• 40:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 40:16Patrick Bet-David?

  She's formidable, but she's, she's gonna have a hard time with some of the states and Tom's right. She's, see, Newsom was on track when he was going a little bit more to the center. To have a shot, but he missed out, you know, he went so aggressive. You can, look, Kamala was the leading candidate for Democrats. She lost seven states.

• 40:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 40:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So the, the same strategy. Yeah, swing states, the seven states that, you know, Pennsylvania, what was it, Arizona, name them.

• 40:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan.

• 40:45Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so the point, the point when you're going through something like this, and so Democrats are trying to find ways to find their Rogan, all that other stuff. Story comes out from Taylor Loren's Dark Money Group paying pro Democrats influencers up to $8,000 a month, New York Post. What's the story, Rob? This is, uh, do you have a video on it or no, it's just a story?

• 41:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Just a story.

• 41:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let me read it. A secretive dark money group tied to Democratic Party. The 1630 Fund is paying online influencers up to $8,000 a month through their course Creator Incubator Program to disseminate left-leaning talking points with participants, including Olivia Juliana, the Gen Z activist who spoke at the 2024 DNC convention. Lauren Pierta, a former Playboy executive, turned to Occupy Democrats YouTuber. Barrett Adair, who runs a viral, do you know these people or no, Rob? Viral American Girl dot themed meme account.

• 41:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Susan Lambert, who styled herself as a Regina, Georgia liberal.

• 41:50Tom Ellsworth?

  That is a Mean Girls reference.

• 41:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Ariel Fedor.

• 41:55Tom Ellsworth?

  There she is.

• 41:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Ariel Fedor, who is a teacher with 1.4 million TikTok followers. Sandra Jennings, TLC reality star and older brother of trans influencer Jazz Jennings. David Pakman, host of YouTube show.

• 42:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Our boy.

• 42:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Pakman's on this list.

• 42:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, weird.

• 42:12Patrick Bet-David?

  But Pakman's got a couple million. Why does he need $8,000 a month? Pakman, okay, so along with Lay McGowan, better known as Politics Girl. So Assistant 34, told the Post that it is a fiscal sponsor, of course, receiving donations on course behalf. Providing operational administrative support, but it is not the original source of financing. And the fiscal sponsorship model is common across philanthropy and in compliance with all laws. Is that what this is? Rob, do we know anything else about the story?

• 42:41Tom Ellsworth?

  That's all that I know right now.

• 42:43Patrick Bet-David?

  It said, how many people were involved? 90 of them? 90 influencers were expected to join. Go a little bit lower, according to Wired. Go a little bit lower. So that's Pakman right there. Lower, lower, lower. Is there, uh, uh? Let me see what it says. Sunwalk at the group, chanting influencer debating the terms. One pro-abortion creator Perry would have quipped, I believe we are in stage five acceptance. Aaron Parnas, Gen Z influencer, once hailed the Gen Z Walter Cronkite is reported to have told the colleagues it was take it or leave it. The program's secrecy clause was deliberate. It avoids a lot of public disclosure that you see on political ads. A lawyer of course, for course, said in a Zoom call with creators, according to Wired. Your names aren't showing up on reports filed with the FTC. Well, he was wrong. Go a little lower, Rob.

• 43:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So they were thinking their name wasn't going to be on the list. Now it is.

• 43:31Tom Ellsworth?

  It's not good.

• 43:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so why is this not good? Tell me why this isn't good.

• 43:35Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, they're paying them, like when it's dark secret money, who's paying it? Is it a specific candidate? Is it a campaign? When they say Democratic Party, it's like, who? It's who is it? I'm I'm just curious to who and who's leaking who uh who's leaking the story?

• 43:48Patrick Bet-David?

  So so what's the difference between this and the Russia thing that they were paying people a hundred thousand dollars? You know, Dave Rubin's name was on there and a couple of the people's name was on there.

• 43:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, I think it's kind of the same because like where when they say dark money, Pat, where is it coming from? Who who's paying to influence these people to use their influence to?

• 44:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Because if I'm a Democrat, you know how I'm arguing this? How cheap are you guys? You guys are so Republicans cost money apparently. If you want Rubin, you need a hundred grand or to none of these guys. These guys are like for two hundred and fifty dollars, they're interested in. Uh uh uh so these are the names from Chorus? Chorus is a creator nonprofit organization dedicated to you know, to expand their reach on some of Chorus's recruiting, training and supporting independent online voices. And building the next era, training. See, that's the part I have a problem with. Uh uh get in, go a little little bit lower. What does training mean? Go lower, Rob, go lower. Okay, can you go to the top that says get in touch? What does get in touch mean? But still stays there? Nothing newer? Okay, then go to the other one that says join Chorus?

• 44:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Apply now. Uh go a little bit lower, see if there's anything else. Okay, let's see the FAQs. What are the benefits of joining Chorus? Please? Let's do an ad for it. Guys, if you want to join, I just. Chorus incubator program is vibrant, pro-democracy, learning community for participants, receive a monthly stipend. So they're open about it. They'll give support. Okay, go to the next one.

• 45:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Rob, send me this link. I'm gonna sign up.

• 45:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Will I be paid to create content? Nope.

• 45:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Nope.

• 45:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh.

• 45:16Tom Ellsworth?

  They've noped.

• 45:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I don't like that.

• 45:19Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't like that.

• 45:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Chorus is a creator-led nonpartisan nonprofit for a really different model. We don't pay creators to produce content.

• 45:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Keep reading.

• 45:27Patrick Bet-David?

  We just give you space to learn more about how to communicate. Please note that we do ask incubators to submit one piece of content for growth analysis. Keep going. What is applicant to be part of? Okay, online applications, information, your applications reviewed, five-member panel. The top scores for, okay, go a little bit lower. Who funds us? Where's the 501(c)(3) fund with grassroots support from hundreds of individuals? Okay, alright, can we find out who funds Chorus? Go last one. Will I be publicly listed? Your privacy and safety is top security? Well, you got screwed up. Shit.

• 45:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Whoopsie.

• 46:00Patrick Bet-David?

  If you do apply, they're gonna know.

• 46:01Tom Ellsworth?

  And doesn't this show you how the Democratic Party is in shambles? They're going behind closed doors, dark, secret money. Notice how the Republicans have, you know, it's just organic. The influencers are out there, they're out in the open, they're kicking ass because the Republican Party is. This is, shows you that they have to literally pay people, like, hey, please talk positive about us. Make us look good, because the policies and everything is right in front of their face. We need you to kind of slowly build it, and it's, that's where they're at, Tom. They're in bad shape. It's very, very simple. Chorus coordinates consistent messages among these influencers. Anti-conservative, whatever you want to call it, they coordinate those messages. The chorus sings together. The chorus stays in tune.

• 46:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Their branding has got a reason behind it. The 1630 Fund is sending money to Chorus. We like what you're doing. Here's some bucks. And then they get a monthly stipend to do what? What is a monthly stipend? To do what? Oh, no, no, we don't pay you to make content? Nope. We give you a stipend. And then 1630 says, "We invest in organizations that provide operational support to other groups." So Chorus, so 1630 says, "Vinnie, I'm gonna give you money for operational support." Yeah, what does that entail? What, operate. Keep those liberal voices operating. Yeah, exactly. And keep them singing the same tune. Yes, sir. That's it. There it is. I have nothing more to say. That's what's going on here.

• 47:29Tom Ellsworth?

  So they are, and by the way, it's the same thing that we were concerned about when we would show all the news media. They all get a notice in the morning from somewhere. Remember those, those, um, all those, uh, uh, clip generator, those, uh, clip assimilators? Yes. That were put together and you find out the news media was saying the same thing, the same way on the evening news all across USA. Gosh, where did they all get the playbook? Yeah. This is just a playbook for influencers.

• 47:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you go back and ask Chad GPT the following question? Ask the question of where, who funds Chorus Dark Money? Just, okay, there you go. So let's see this. Primary fund or 1630 fund. Okay. So the 1630 fund, uh, prominent liberal dark money nonprofit that operates fiscal chorus collects and invests in donations. 1630 fund has dispersed up to $8,000 a month to about 90. Okay. We read that. Larger network and known backers, uh, uh, larger networks and known backers are Bella Advisors, Washington DC based philanthropic, philanthropic consulting administers, 1630 fund or Bella manages a network of politically oriented nonprofits, including New Venture Fund, Hopel Fund, Windward Fund, North Fund and others.

• 48:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Known financial contributors are Hansorg Wiss as Swiss billionaire who has donated 245 million dollars. Interesting. Okay. So we've got to come back and see who he is. Uh, Rob, can we actually go to see who that guy is? Hansberg Wiss?

• 48:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Pierre Omidyar is co-founder of Veeby.

• 48:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is Hansberg Wiss? Um,

• 48:53Patrick Bet-David?

  so Swiss billionaire, is a Swiss billionaire entrepreneur, uh, why does he have interest in politics?

• 49:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Hmm.

• 49:00Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what I'm trying to find out. So he launched a pledging a billion dollars towards 30% of our land and water. Okay. So he's a climate change guy. Go a little bit lower. Uh, major contributor, democratic and progressive caucus. Okay. Got caucuses. Got it. Uh, Wiz and government online Chelsea. Okay. The horizon burnt. Okay. So go back. Can you ask the question, what's his relationship with George Soros? What's his relationship with George Soros? Um, let's see what it says. Zoom in a little bit. Relation with it. There is no personal relationship. They do, they, however, they do operate in overlapping spheres. Both have major philanthropists of donors, US. Wiz Foundation. Okay. 1630 fund. All right. Go back. George Soros through open society, similar funds. Okay. Go back to the chat GPT to continue reading it.

• 49:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Other discos, Nick Hunter, American Federation General and Mike Kombra. Okay. 45 million, major of its funding, 8 and a half million dollars. These are the anonymous ones. When was it founded? 2009.

• 49:53Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, Pierre Omidyar?

• 49:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 49:55Tom Ellsworth?

  He's founder of Veeby and the grand. Son of a general in the Imperial Iranian Army.

• 50:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 50:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Served under. Weird. Palavi.

• 50:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow, okay, keep going a little bit.

• 50:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Now he's liberal grandson liberal.

• 50:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So, yeah, I mean, so what they're trying to do is what? Just to give you talking points to say, can you talk about these points and be favorite, you know? You know, favoring what we're talking about? Is that kind of what they're doing?

• 50:20Tom Ellsworth?

  It's all about, right. Social media is about trend, trend is momentum, momentum is reach. Yep. All they're trying to do is put together, I shouldn't say all they're trying to do is they're given a bunch of money, dark money, the dark money comes from all these people that don't want to be listed. Whoops, there's a list. And then 1630 gives that money over to chorus. Course make sure everybody is singing the same tune. And today, the word of the day today is authoritarian Trump gun control. Go.

• 50:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 50:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, great point. Well, this is why people want to get big money out of politics. I mean, this all traces back to the big decision in 2010, I believe it was, which was Citizens United and it happened under.

• 51:02Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know if it was under George Bush or it was under Obama right around that timeframe when they were taking over. John Roberts decision. Okay, John Roberts decision. Limited corporate giving. Exactly, and we all remember when Chris Cuomo, shout out to you, buddy. Uh, basically called out the big money, dark money donors, whatever you want to call it at the DNC. And he, and this was following Bernie onstage, like, we gotta get the billionaires out of our elections, we gotta get the money out of this, the billionaires, the billionaires. Please welcome to the stage your next speaker. Billionaire Governor JB Pritzker, hey, how you guys doing? So if you want to see cognitive dissonance, look no further than the Democratic Party. But here's Chris Cuomo basically calling out essentially what we're talking about.

• 51:41Patrick Bet-David?

  How long is this clip, Rob? Uh, one minute 58 seconds. Okay.

• 51:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at the ring of sweets, okay? This is not unique to Democrats. is a game of money. When people talk about uniparty. We are strangled by the money reality in our politics. Those sweets start at 500 grand. You think there's like a teacher group up in there? Yeah. You think it's like the Cub Scouts? Up in Columbia? County, South Carolina that's up in those boxes? Some of them are lobbies and good things. The media boxes, you think they're free? Why do you think I'm on the floor? News Nation is not a broke company. Next Star is a massive organization. We are corporate media. We don't have one of those boxes because that's the game. You pay to play. Those boxes are filled with the same people that they say they're going to regulate.

• 52:32Tom Ellsworth?

  They are literally looking down on the faithful and being told. Yeah, yeah, we're going to break down on them. We're going to make them pay their share.

• 52:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, you can, you can pause it right there. We played this clip multiple times. Great messaging. It'd be great to get rid of lobbying, but in able to do that, it's going to be. It's going to be a lot of fighting going on, but it won't. Tom, what would happen? Actually visualize 100% of lobbying is gone. The biggest one being Big Pharma. I think it's 350 million dollars, whatever the number is. Take all the lobbying out. Pharma, real estate, insurance, A-PAC. Take every one of these guys out. What happens?

• 53:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, if you take the lobbying out of it, um, there's going to be a lot more variability in our elections. Because someone who's in the seat, who now has the people in their pocket, that's very hard to overthrow. It is very, very, very, very, very hard to defeat a US Senator. Uh, go look at the number of incumbent senators, uh, absent some terrible scandal that get over. They could, I shouldn't say overthrown, that sounds revolutionary, that are defeated. The most powerful word in American election lexicon is incumbent. Because incumbent means there are people that you are serving that want you to stay there. And the industries have the lobbying behind it.

• 53:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Pat, if that wasn't there and those lobbies were there, then it would be much easier for people with new ideas and new focuses to run against, especially in the perpetual two-year race. Because it's every two years for a congressman, every two years. Um, without that incumbent label, without all the lobbying money that they get, they would now be raising money from grassroots, people like you and me. Or yeah, unions could give directly, but you wouldn't have the active lobbying groups. Remember, there was one of the biggest white collar crimes in, um, in Washington was, uh, what was his name? Jack? He always wore the little, uh, black bowler hat. Um, and he was

• 54:34Tom Ellsworth?

  a paid lobbyist. Help me out, Rob. You know what I'm talking about? And he ultimately,

• 54:42Tom Ellsworth?

  no, we'll find him. He used to wear that dark black jacket all the way down and, and the hat. But anyway, there was an example- Sounds pretty shady is what you're saying. Criminal, it was criminal, criminal lobbying that was going on where the lobbying was going beyond. And so without the lobbying, Pat, elections would normalize quite a bit. And you would also have the following happen. Laws that, that get passed would have more scrutiny because the lobbyists, if you go look at it, what percent of laws that are sponsored by a congressman are actually written by lobbyists? That's him, right there. That's a jacket right there. That's him. Yeah, that was him. And he was, uh, he was the OG badass of lobbying

• 55:27Tom Ellsworth?

  until he got busted. Pat, it reminds me of a picture that you showed about, uh, some scary guy in a movie. So there's the two things, Pat. Elections would be easier for peo- new people with ideas and laws would no longer be written by lobbyists and then just say, okay, Patrick, we got you elected. Here's, here's the thing. Put the bill through. And the lobbyists are writing the bills. Dirty secret.

• 55:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Who could get rid of them and who doesn't want to get rid of them?

• 55:50Tom Ellsworth?

  We need a Buford Pusser type character.

• 55:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Would Trump get rid of them?

• 55:56Tom Ellsworth?

  I would hope. I, I would hope-

• 55:58Patrick Bet-David?

  He's never talked about it though.

• 55:59Tom Ellsworth?

  He could be our Buford Pusser because let me tell you, all of corporate America wants a lobbyist because it makes their, their lives more stable because you don't have regulation coming and going. Corporate America wants it, especially energy and pharmaceutical. They want it. Who else wants it? The unions want it. It makes their lives more stable.

• 56:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And what, in what way do they play a positive role? Is there anything positive that they play?

• 56:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, when you see, when you see parent groups joining, when you have, okay, I'll give you a great example. There is, uh, oh, I just blanked on her name. She's in Texas. She's a doctor that was anti-vax. She works at Houston Hospital. has a very vibrant Twitter account, but she's been out there with grassroots people talking about. Mary Bowden? Yes, Mary Talley Bowden. And she's been out there with Citizens Group. There's an example of good. They have been trying to lobby and get their voice heard about, you're wrong about the vaccine. We have other data, but they get drowned out by the big money. And so, small lobbying efforts,

• 57:03Tom Ellsworth?

  you know, that have a cause, sometimes they get vindicated like she. They tried to cancel her how many times? And now she's been vindicated that her and all the parents and the citizens that were saying, there's other data. Please listen, please. They're pleading like little tiny voices in the night. This is an example. And now she's vindicated. They were like, we're gonna, you're gonna lose your medical license. You won't be practicing. And soon as you lose your license, we're gonna go after you for disseminating fraudulent information. Well, guess what? Guess what? She did? She's vindicated. And now she's out there on podcasts and on TV saying, and you'll see things. Mary, how did, how did you, Dr. Bowden, how did you bear up under it?

• 57:48Tom Ellsworth?

  We knew we were right. We knew we had the data. How did you get through that, that fog? How did you move it? I had the support of all these people that agreed with us. We're doing it. And that's an example, Pat, of a good lobby. And now we find out that she was absolutely correct. I don't think lobbying is all bad. There's certainly pros and cons in it. Like, for instance, you know, when I go to these Fin Seca insurance type conferences, we go to the Hill and try to educate our congressmen on the benefits of financial services. And, you know, using our expertise that helps the general public and representing interests. And all these groups are special interests. I don't have a problem with that. The problem when, when you can just, you know, you're here, they're bought and paid for, bought and paid for, bought and paid for.

• 58:30Tom Ellsworth?

  When you have so much money, whether it's the farmer groups, or whether it's big oil, or whether it's a big, big war, you could buy these politicians and put them in your pocket. And then that's how you get crony capitalism. That's how you get corruption. So I don't know the happy medium of it, but it's certainly getting out of hand.

• 58:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, I think maybe the solution is the following. And Mexicans have figured it out. Because I think for us, like, we gotta graduate this way we're going. And maybe, maybe we just gotta go back to the old school way of politics. Dudes? I mean, just watch this one here. They're having a friendly conversation. Look what happens. This is what? Mexico senators fight during session over speaking rights. Go ahead, Rob.

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• 1:00:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Oye, ¿tú tienes un problema? Sí, ¿tú quieres pelear? Okay, vámonos amigos, oh yeah. Oh, that's a good one. Oh yeah. Watch this guy get shoved.

• 1:00:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You didn't do anything.

• 1:00:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Get out of here. Here's a camera. Look, he's standing over him. You're right, look. Put your camera, look at him. He's like, stay down! Oh yeah, mi gente.

• 1:00:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Ya tu salvé. Dude, this is awesome. This guy's like the gangster of Mexico. You know what's up, me and you, homie.

• 1:00:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And then afterwards, they're having beers together.

• 1:00:53Tom Ellsworth?

  And these are the civilized ones. These are the politicians. Wait till you get the uh Rob, do you have Taiwan Parliament Fight? By the way, Mexico's our junior league. Let's go to Taiwan. You know what? Dana White, I don't need you at the White House. I need you on Capitol Hill. Yeah.

• 1:01:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Tai- Taiwan what?

• 1:01:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Taiwan Parliament Fight. December of 2024. I think some guy, a guy had nunchucks in this one. Look at this. They're stacking the furniture and there he is. He's making a tackle. That's a chick.

• 1:01:21Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not real.

• 1:01:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at, no, no. And look at the chairs. They're upside down.

• 1:01:25Patrick Bet-David?

  There is no way that's real.

• 1:01:26Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no.

• 1:01:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Are there videos or no?

• 1:01:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, there are. Go to media. That's it. That's it. Look, oh, he took the notes.

• 1:01:36Tom Ellsworth?

  He's got the legislation. He's headed to the goal line. He could go all the way. This is in Taiwan? Yeah, this is Taiwan. This is Taiwan Parliament in December 2024. They ended up stacking the furniture. They stacked the furniture up to keep others from getting in here. Here she goes. What were they fighting about? Probably not wanting to be taken over by China.

• 1:01:58Tom Ellsworth?

  They're throwing water. Uh oh. Uh oh.

• 1:02:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Here come the chairs. Get them.

• 1:02:12Patrick Bet-David?

  That's great.

• 1:02:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, now I'm hungry.

• 1:02:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause the rap, so.

• 1:02:15Tom Ellsworth?

  So I think we should say that our, our congressmen.

• 1:02:18Patrick Bet-David?

  They have it under control.

• 1:02:19Tom Ellsworth?

  And congresswomen are wimps. It's hilarious. Well, the, so maybe that's also lobbying makes you weak. Can you imagine Chuck Schumer, like, not even Chuck Schumer, like, like Jerry Nadler fighting like, what's that old guy? Who's the older, who's the older reporter? Chuck Grassley? But you thought he trapped in his pants once. What would happen here? Yeah, oh my god. I actually totally, I totally approve of what they're doing over there and what is this, Mexican Congress right now? I paid for it. Because the old vigilante justice that you see what's going on the cartels, we talked about like the most dangerous cities in the western hemisphere, I think seven out of the top 10 were in Mexico, you know, my buddy Adrian just got back from Durango, Mexico, and I was like, how was it? He said, oh, it was amazing. I go, what's the corruption like? You fear for your life? No, it's safe, it's safe. I go, you sure?

• 1:03:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Because all I hear is, you know, politicians end up dead and all the craziness going on. He goes, no, no, no, no, they worked it out like a couple of months ago. Yeah. No more kidnapping of innocent people. I think they're working on it. I was like, oh, that's so that's like a new thing? No more kidnapping innocent people? He goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was pretty safe. I was waiting for President Trump. I'm Donald Trump and I approve of this fight. Killed it, Tom.

• 1:03:29Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, okay, so let's go to the next story here. Next story is Donald Trump looks terrible. Why won't the press ask him what's wrong? Okay, and Adam wants to talk about this story, so Adam, I'll come to you first.

• 1:03:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 1:03:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Donald Trump looks lousy. He has unexplained bruises on his hands, his ankles are swollen, he's walking oddly, he keeps mixing up names or using the wrong word during press availabilities. The question about what's legitimate in diagnosing presidents and afar has become more than just an academic exercise. And given the indoor world's most demanding job, the debate has also been fueled about age. Social media has no such complications about speculation. The last few weeks have been considerable focus on Trump's ill health with his hands. Rob, is this what, she's being asked the question about his health?

• 1:04:19Tom Ellsworth?

  So this is last month because President Trump's hand was seen bruised last month, and Caroline Levitt was asked about that, and here's what she said about his health. Recent photos of the president have shown minor bruising on the back of his hand. This is consistent with minor soft tissue irritation from frequent handshaking and the use of aspirin, which is taken as part of a standard cardiovascular prevention regimen.

• 1:04:42Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a well-known and benign side effect of aspirin therapy. And the president remains in excellent health, which I think all of you witness on a daily basis here. So the president wanted me to share that note with all of you. I'm happy to take further questions on it.

• 1:04:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Gotta love it, you know, where baloney says, I hate my press. And the president's like, nah, I do this every day. And by the way, do you remember how many times Biden took questions during the four years he was in? Do we actually know the stats? How many times did President Biden allow press to ask him questions? Okay, live during his term? Do we know that?

• 1:05:24Tom Ellsworth?

  It has to be a handful.

• 1:05:25Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not a big number. By the way, who knows who's gonna be coming up with these numbers? They're probably gonna give bigger numbers than what it really is. Approximately 36 times amongst seven most recent presidential presidents. I'm running again. What's the number?

• 1:05:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Thirty-six, but look at how many Trump had, Obama, and Reagan had.

• 1:05:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump had 468. Obama did 570 in his eight years. Reagan did 262. Biden did 33, just so you know that. Thirty-three is what Biden did, okay? What's the bottom one saying? The 588, only 500, second to only 664, Trump. Okay, so yeah, this guy's not out there. And what Trump is doing is he's completely out there talking to everybody. But Adam, what are your thoughts about this whole health scare that people are talking about?

• 1:06:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, well, Donald Trump is probably gonna die. The good news and bad news, depending on where you feel about Trump, is it's not gonna happen anytime soon. He's gonna live at least to age 90. Now, where am I coming up with this? Two different reasons. My expertise is literally in longevity and longevity markets and life expectancy. That's my industry. And then number two, precedent. So with the exception, since 1980, talk about president deaths. With the exception of Richard Nixon, who died at 81, every single US president made it to at least 90. Reagan was 93, Ford was 93 as well, Bush Senior 94. Jimmy Carter, your favorite president, Pat, made it to 100. I believe he died last year, although Vinnie preemptively thought he died much earlier.

• 1:06:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Biden is, what, 82 going on 102? We'll see how long he lasts. He's still there. Trump is 79, he's lean, mean and orange, he's doing his thing. He's high energy, he's active, he's a fighter, he's a survivor. Based on my indications, based on whatever health issues we know, get used to seeing Donald Trump in the Oval Office, whether he runs in 2028, I think is a farce. But Donald Trump, for all the betting people out there, will make it through his final term in office. And then he'll have a sunset.

• 1:07:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, but in regard to this, Tom, sorry, not to cut you off, Tom, I mean, I aspirin, what she's talking about is, you know, baby aspirin for your, for your blood. Like, a lot of people, my, even my doctors, like, take a baby aspirin, chewable at night before you go to sleep, it helps with your circulation, but it's, it's, I mean, let's, let's be honest, he does shake hands and he's aggressive when he shakes hands. That might be, yeah, Tom, I trust me, he's shaking my hand.

• 1:07:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Shake Tom's hand right now, show him how it does it, rip his shoulder out, rip that shoulder out.

• 1:07:51Patrick Bet-David?

  President, but you know, it makes.

• 1:07:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom, after those, uh, weightlifting, you're stronger now.

• 1:07:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And I think you mentioned this yesterday, too, it's not like, guys, he doesn't hide, he eats Big Macs. When you go on Air Force One, there's nine Big Macs and you have to eat it, because that's all they have. It's Big Macs and McDonald's fries and he drinks Diet Coke. And R.K. sitting there going, I wish I wasn't in this photo. Yeah, exactly, but the only thing that, that, it makes me laugh that the media is worried about him, when for, for four years, Biden was falling upstairs, forgetting everything, shaking hands with ghosts, lost his mind, they didn't say. He was literally shaking hands with nobody and they said nothing. And now they're like, oh, Trump is in bad shape, I'm gonna be honest with you, but he, he doesn't look that great. He's in his 80s, like you said, he's eating unhealthy.

• 1:08:37Tom Ellsworth?

  79, Vinnie, have a little respect. 2026 is gonna be the greatest year of our lives right now, he's gonna be 80, country's gonna turn 250.

• 1:08:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I wish he could be healthier, I want to live as long as he can. You're not gonna change somebody at that age and you're gonna be like this, put the Big Mac down, it's not gonna happen.

• 1:08:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, I think we've got a lot of octogenarians in Congress and the Senate. And I think what we just went through with Biden, where now we find out Eighty years, Pat. He was really, honestly incapacitated in some way. That's a tassel. That's terrible. And since he was incapacitated and went through all this, I think it's a fair question by the media. The media sits there and looks, hey, the prior president, now we know, some of us covered it up. Okay, maybe shouldn't have done that, not gonna admit it. But it's a fair question we need to ask. How is the health of our leader with so much to do on a world stage? Doing just fine. And it would appear that there may be some stuff going on with a seventy something year old president. Seventy nine. But other than that, he's in good health. Yeah.

• 1:09:36Tom Ellsworth?

  And moving forward, and it's not the visible things that we saw previously. And it's not Mitch McConnell basically having, you know, like Mike, I don't know what you call it, but he would freeze up. If someone, I mean, Adam and I have been around a lot of older relatives and stuff. If we had an older relative freeze up at a dinner the way McConnell did, wouldn't we start going through? No, I'd reelect him. No, no, no. We, you and I would go through the stroke checklist, try to get him to say something, try to do these things. Remember McConnell freezes up? Yeah. And so you would, you would, you would get concerned for a family member and say, hang on, let's go through the stroke checklist, let's call 911. And so it's a fair question by the media, but it looks like Trump's in good health, all things considered. Well, I want to get Patrick's perspective on this because you said something the other day.

• 1:10:21Tom Ellsworth?

  It's not about lifespan, it's about health span. Unpack that a little bit.

• 1:10:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, we just met with a guy who was one of our neighbors, brilliant guy, doctor cardiologist. He says life is about health span, not lifespan, how long of a healthy life you live. It's not about, you could live up to ninety, but the last twenty were miserable. You know, versus you live eighty five, but you live a healthier eighty five? He's golfing out there, you know, he came back from Alaska, gets a couple hours of sleep, gets back on a golf course, knew when he's golfing. So, you know, yes, that hand stuff, you gotta look for, look at it, make sure everything is good. What I do know is Uh, you know, with the help of Tom's, you know, a lot of the content he talks about. We have a massive surge in our octogenarian audience that watches the podcast. And we welcome all of you and it's just an awesome audience.

• 1:11:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, and, uh, and you know, they buy, they still buy future looks bright. They don't, they don't, they don't, they still are like, no, I'm, I'm still excited about the future. They don't buy green bananas, but they'll buy some future look bright gear. They believe the future looks bright, definitely. All right, let's go to another story of this guy that, um, decided to run the middle of the street, gets arrested, skies him as little Nas X. Rob, if you want to pull up this clip, I don't even, I, I guess we have to show the clip for it to make sense. So this guy is, I mean, look, before you watch it, he's in his white. I don't even know what that is. So let me just kind of read it to you. Vinnie was like, sent emails, can we please cover this twice? We did not. So I'm only doing this because Vinnie really wants to cover this story because it has a lot to do with the economy and politics.

• 1:11:56Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me, let me just set it up and then I'll give it to you. Little Nas X, whose real name is Montero Lamar Hill, was released from jail Monday after posting $75,000 bill following his arrest on Thursday in Studio City, California, where he was seen walking naked down Ventura Avenue, apparently at four o'clock in the morning, leading to confrontation with police user a taser to subdue him. As reported by TMZ, he was charged with four felony counts, including three counts of battery with injury on a police officer and one count of resisting an executive officer with a criminal complaint, stating he did unlawfully use force and violence and inflict an injury

• 1:12:40Patrick Bet-David?

  on three officers he reasonably should have known were peace officers performing their duties. L.A. County District Attorney Nathan Hockman, uh, no relation to Octo Girl, stated attacking police officers is more than just a crime against those individuals, but a direct threat to public safety, emphasizing that anyone who assaults law enforcement will face serious consequences. The 26-year-old rapper known for his 2018 Old Town Road pleaded not guilty during his raiment Monday. Um, Vinnie, tell us, do you want to first show this clip? Well, yeah, this is, and my, you know where this is. This is Ventura Boulevard. You know exactly where this is. And they claimed that he was, oh, he OD'd on drugs. Show this.

• 1:13:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Don't be late to the party tonight. Where at? You know where it's at. In my pants. Nah nah nah nah. This is what I do. Nah nah nah nah. Go ahead babe. Nah nah nah nah. Didn't I tell you to put the phone down? Like, oh my goodness. Uh oh, somebody's going out to pay for that.

• 1:13:46Tom Ellsworth?

  You know exactly where this is.

• 1:13:48Patrick Bet-David?

  This is Ventura.

• 1:13:48Tom Ellsworth?

  This is Ventura.

• 1:13:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Four o'clock in the morning.

• 1:13:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Hell.

• 1:13:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Fast forward, Rob.

• 1:13:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, fast forward, fast forward, fast forward.

• 1:13:56Tom Ellsworth?

  You know that's California pizza getting to this right there. That's a man right there.

• 1:13:59Patrick Bet-David?

  But now, fast forward, Rob.

• 1:14:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Boom, boom. Everything looks normal to me, except he's not in a crosswalk. Nothing crazy, Pat. He's actually having... Nothing unusual.

• 1:14:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Do we see cops actually get in a police...

• 1:14:08Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no fighting, none of that, but there is a video, Rob, if you could find the aftermath. Why was he arrested? Just, first of all, well, they said he was ODing, but guess what?

• 1:14:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this him?

• 1:14:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, this is, and like, Pat, just look at the spiritual, like, look where he's at. Show this clip, this is after jail.

• 1:14:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Your girl is gonna be okay, yo.

• 1:14:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Your girl, okay? Oh, Jesus. Watch, look, look at where he's at.

• 1:14:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. She's gonna be alright, she's gonna be alright.

• 1:14:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, okay. Yeah. Shit. Look, look at him, Tom, he's lost. That was fucking terrifying. Look, look, Tom. That was terrifying. Yeah, look at his eyes, bro. That was a terrifying last four days. But your girl is gonna be alright. Something tells me that when he went to jail, he dropped the soap on purpose. Well, well, well, here's my thing. Multiple times. Guys, and listen, I don't judge, I'm just, I'm just, my, my opinion, Tom, I know we were talking about the spirituality thing, which I want you to piggyback on, but that, that's not drugs. Piggyback, was that... Tom, Adam, can I please finish the damn story? I'm just really excited about this girl. This isn't drugs, this is, by the way, I've been on drugs before, nothing made me want to get in my underwear and white boots and go on Ventura. Yeah, but you're not flaming homosexual, Vinny.

• 1:15:17Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, I understand, but, but, Pat, that's not... You're undercover. That's not drugs, that's something deeper, and a lot of people say when you get to the industry, you sell your soul, Adam, I don't want to say the name, we talked to a guy that said to us, Pat, by the way, this guy wasn't a Christian, he was at a house party, very talented guy, and he saw things, and he admitted... it to me, he looked like he saw a ghost and he goes, this made me become a Christian. And remember guys, let's do a little backstory. This is the same guy that teamed up with M S S G uh C H F. Remember they made the Satan shoes? They were altered Nike Air Max 97s. They had a bronze pentagram inverted cross. Do you remember these?

• 1:15:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, red accents and guess what? They only made 666 pairs, 666 pairs.

• 1:15:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember this was a, this was a fact check this.

• 1:15:59Tom Ellsworth?

  They got sued. They got sued. Nike had nothing to do with this.

• 1:16:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:16:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Nike had nothing to do with this. They sued, they took it down and they forced, and by the way, they had a drop of human blood in it. Okay. And at the same time, he released that music video Montero, which he pulled dance from hell, gave the devil a lap dance, snapped his neck and then took a storm. And I know I mentioned this earlier in the week, when I, when we're talking about the fight, the battle, it's about, it's not flesh and blood. This is Ephesians, Pat, but Galatians 67 says, do not be deceived. God is not to be mocked. For whatever one sows, one will reap. Okay. And this is what the industry does. They sold us on this and Luke, what's that? Luke 10 18? Tom, could you read it? What does it say? Luke 10 18. I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven as he was banished.

• 1:16:44Tom Ellsworth?

  And, and, and, and guys, a lot of people go, oh, you're just, you're just connecting dots and no, no. All these guys, all these industry people, they do this stuff. Uh, remember Ice Spice was at the That's not a Bible verse. That's a proof of existence. Yes, of, of Satan, correct? That's what they're doing. And then remember Ice Spice, she's in the, in the booth with Taylor Swift. When the camera hits her and she knows, she does the devil horns and she picks up an upside down cross. And everybody's like, yo, you're crazy. That's just, they're just messing with you. And no, and this is them giving like credence and, and like respect to their God. And Rob, Bob Dylan, I don't know. I know we showed this once. If you don't mind, Pat, Bob Dylan was asked by who? Ed Bradley? Ed Bradley. It's 60 Minutes, way back when, 60 Minutes.

• 1:17:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. He's asking him like, how do you keep, how do you, you keep going? You're, you give credit to your industry? And look who he says he, uh, he made a deal with. Go ahead.

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  I made a bargain with it, you know, a long time ago, and I'm holding up my hand. What was your bargain? To get where I am now. Should I ask who you made the bargain with? With, you know, with the chief commander. On this earth? On this earth and in the world we can't see.

• 1:19:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, so guys, it's not like they're hiding it. It's in your face. I don't want to interrupt, but I assume that's the devil, but it could be God. I don't know about that. Talking like that, I don't know. I don't know. My thing is this, Adam, I think these people like Lil Nas X who go to the story, there's something off. When you go into this industry, you're lost, you're spiritual. And Tom, I know you want to say something about how people are turning in England from 18 to 24 to God, which I love, but there's still a freaking battle here. We're winning, but it's still ugly. Yeah, you know, I don't normally mention specific books, but I'm gonna mention one here, and it's Spiritual Warfare by Dr. Carl Payne. It's a very, very balanced book. Read chapter two with an open mind and just tell me what you think is happening here

• 1:19:50Tom Ellsworth?

  and what's happening with people. This is not, you know, I think that pastors that are out there that are doing, you know, these fake exorcisms and these stage shows, I think that's a sham. But I think that people that fail to understand that our prayer life needs to include... Protection from the dark forces, that's a shame. If you don't see that and you look at the amount, people say, you know, look how much Jesus talked about money. Well, you need to also look at how much he talked about spirit forces and saying these only go through prayer and fasting. You know, there is the, um, uh, in Acts talks about the seven sons of Skiva and they would, and this priest, self-appointed priest named Skiva.

• 1:20:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Will go around collecting money from people to say, I'll make the demons go away. I'll make the demons go away. I'll do all this. And they say this man that was overwrought, you know, turned to him and, and looked at him and he said, "In the name of Jesus that Paul preaches, get out of him." And so in other words, he didn't have the belief. He's referencing Apostle Paul. And it says, "The man looked at him and it says, 'Paul I have heard of and Jesus I know. Who are you?'" Oh, wow. And basically he was saying, "You're unarmed." Yes. "You are not covered by the Holy Spirit. You're unarmed." And it says, "He gave, he gave him and his seven sons, "a massive beating and they fled the house naked and bleeding."

• 1:21:17Tom Ellsworth?

  And so, you know, you, you, you see all that. And so spiritual warfare, Dr. Carl Payne. You know, take a look at that. It's not about sensationalizing the devil. It's understanding that there are dark forces on this, which is why we need Christ. Well, there's, I mean, this is a chat GPT thing, but here's allegedly a list of famous musicians and actors who have quote unquote, "Made a deal with the devil." This is chat GPT. Check it out. Number one on the list is Kanye. Number two, Jay-Z Beyonce, obviously Jay-Z had a relationship with Kanye. Rihanna, Katy Perry, who jokingly said, "I want to be the immigrant of music and I sold my soul to the devil." Those are her words. Lady Gaga, Eminem, Lil Nas X on this list right there.

• 1:21:58Tom Ellsworth?

  In the acting world, we saw what happened with Heath Ledger when he played the Joker and he literally got possessed by the devil. Apparently Keanu Reeves on this list, Madonna, Doja Cat. We've seen what she's done in her music and she's, uh, song about the devil, but. You know, when they said there's smoke, there's fire, we've, we've seen multiple, multiple stories of people who have had fame and have kind of gone out of and said, you don't want to see what's going on

• 1:22:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Nope.

• 1:22:22Tom Ellsworth?

  in this occult house back here, uh, and they get out of it. But some people, fame over, uh, being a decent person is a higher priority.

• 1:22:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, there you go. That's little Nas X for you with what he's got going on. Folks, I mean, the basic premise of this message is don't run around in your underwear at four o'clock in the morning.

• 1:22:40Tom Ellsworth?

  On Ventura, yeah.

• 1:22:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't care what street it is, Ventura, Preston Hollow, you know, Broadway,

• 1:22:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Main Street.

• 1:22:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Dixie.

• 1:22:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Dixie.

• 1:22:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Rodeo. Don't do it. It's not a good idea. If you're gonna run around your house, fine. Don't do it in the street. That was the main purpose there. Don't tell us we didn't give you a good tip today of watching the show. Life changing. All right. Next story. Russia warning as Vladimir Putin close to first nuclear bomb test in 35 years. Nuclear bomb test? Why is he testing a nuclear bomb? Who wants to see that he's testing a nuclear bomb? Is this message to his neighbor, leader that's a great dancer, great shaker? Who, who is he? Who is he trying to show this to that they're doing this with? So let me read it to you. Russia's getting closer to renew a nuclear bomb test for the first time since 1990 in a former

• 1:23:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Soviet Arctic test site in Zavoya, uh, Zemlya, uh, Arkipeligo and with military specialist Dmitry Stefanovich. At the Russian Center for International Security and member of the Russian Academy of Sciences, warning, we are closer to the situation than any point in North Korea since last, um, nuclear test, referring to North Korea's test in September 2017. The director to his director of the facility uh, confirmed readiness stating the test site is ready to resume full scale testing activities. It is fully ready. The laboratory and testing facilities are ready. The personnel are ready. If the order is given, we will begin testing at the moment. Russian politician, including Lieutenant General Andriy Grolov,

• 1:24:15Patrick Bet-David?

  who posted from the side, "You know there's a lot of fascinating stuff I could say about the test site, but sadly I cannot. The only thing I can say is we're fully combat ready." So, what are they saying? While that story's breaking and they're sharing that, another story comes out that Russia is trying to recruit soldiers with HIV and STDs, with the promise of free healthcare if they fight against Ukraine. So, he's actively recruiting people, civilians with HIV, hepatitis, syphilis, and other diseases in occupied regions of Donetsk, with healthcare access is restricted to Russian passport holders, but using signs at recruitment centers stating, "This is your last chance",

• 1:24:57Patrick Bet-David?

  to pressure them into enlisting with the promise of life-changing healthcare. So, Tom, when you see something like this with what they're doing, first testing nuclear site, two stories about them recruiting anybody and everybody with STDs and HIV, what do you think? You think this is all smoke signal? You think they're all sending messages? Or you think there's any credibility here?

• 1:25:17Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I've been reading behind the headlines on a lot of stuff in the Ukraine war, and it is a fact that as of about 100 days ago, this became more of a manpower war than a technology war. And that the drones that we're seeing flying around is not simply because of drone technology. It is in part, but the other problem is they are out of manpower. And we've seen the kidnappings and conscription that have been going on in Ukraine. And we were also seeing, we also saw some very disturbing behavior of men that were in a gay club, that were being pulled out of the gay club in St. Petersburg. I think it was, I think the audience can help me here,

• 1:26:02Tom Ellsworth?

  but it was a gay club that was in Russia, and these guys were getting pulled out and forced into draft. And so, it is a manpower problem that both sides are facing right now of military-age, typical soldier-age people. And now we're seeing the next list of this. Because this has been going on so long, they don't have infinite populations of young people that are, you know, joining the armed forces out of pride. They are having to basically enforce a draft. And when that's not working, they're having to kidnap on the streets, which Ukraine has been doing. Videos, how much, don't have exact numbers, but they've done it.

• 1:26:42Tom Ellsworth?

  And now you've got Russia, you know, raiding a gay club and now saying, look, if you're sick, you've got controllable, communicable diseases, HIV positive, no problem, we'll give you free health care for life if you still have a life when you're done in the military.

• 1:26:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, by the way, while you're saying that, at the same time, Putin, Kim Jong Un, are to attend the Chinese parade in a show of defiance against the West. So look at that team right there, folks. Kim Jong Un, Xi, and Putin are gonna be together. Why? Maybe they're sending a message, okay? So they will attend a military parade in Beijing, September 3rd, a week from now, marking their first public appearance alongside Chinese President Xi Jinping, with Chinese Assistant Foreign Minister announcing at a news conference that 26 foreign heads of state and government, including Belarus President, Iranian President,

• 1:27:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Indonesian President, South Korea National Assembly Speaker, will join with no major Western leaders, except for Slovakia's Prime Minister, Robert Ficou, will be president. The parade commemorating the 80th anniversary of Japan surrender in World War II will feature Xi Jinping surveying tens of thousands of troops at the Tiananmen Square, showcasing China's advancement military equipment like fighter jets, missile defense system, and hypersonic weapons. The event projects a major show of solidarity among China, Russia, and North Korea against Western pressure with Russia facing multiple rounds of sanctions since its 2022 invasion of Ukraine, described of Beijing as a strategic partner.

• 1:28:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And North Korea, former treaty ally of China under UN Security Council, sanctions since 2006 for its nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles program. Adam, what do you think with these two, these three stories?

• 1:28:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, well, show me your friends, I'll show you your future. This is the gang, gang, gang, right here. You got China, you got Russia, you got North Korea, you got Iran, you got Venezuela, and then just throw in whatever autocratic regime. align with these guys on the flip side you got our gang which is the United States and all the five eyes which is Canada UK New Zealand you know you throw Israel in there you throw these democracies where people actually get elected and they're held accountable by the people not just autocratic leaders thug like leaders who just do what they want that's the way of the world so you know how they say that you are the sum of the five people you hang out with the most this is their crew this is the axis of evil this is the axis of resistance not

• 1:29:21Tom Ellsworth?

  the people of these countries aren't necessarily evil but the regimes typically are

• 1:29:25Patrick Bet-David?

  how do you think Trump views this

• 1:29:27Tom Ellsworth?

  I was just gonna that's what I was thinking you just sat down with him you had a good talk you know we're doing peace talks but hopefully to end this thing with Ukraine and then you go and you're gonna go hang out with the Iran's president just right this right there I mean that you know he has a relationship with South Korea with Kim Jong-un but North Korea North Korea my bad I think that's a spit in the face like what you're showing your defiance to the West we just sat down with each other yeah but why would you think that they're our friends there's no indication that they're our boys no I'm necessarily saying friends as much as as much as we're not fans of what Zelensky is doing we're on team Zelensky we're on team Ukraine I know you don't want to admit it I'm not on I'm not on team I'm not on team that guy no no no no I'm not on team Ukraine

• 1:30:12Tom Ellsworth?

  our country is yeah the country the country is I mean but here's my thing but Russia like Russia but we were told to hate Russia hate Russia I don't necessarily think he's a friend but you just came here and we're talking peace now you're gonna do a parade going hey we don't like y'all like I don't it's counterproductive what the hell are we talking about Putin is a former one of those three letters that he's former what KGB KGB you trust KGB not me you down with KGB my whole family

• 1:30:38Patrick Bet-David?

  is there anything here or this is just a ceremony that they're paying support to

• 1:30:44Tom Ellsworth?

  yeah I think it's a ceremony paying support to I mean we met Robert Fico at Turning Point event There's a guy that was shot five times, I believe, and survived. That was 50 Cent. Slovak, uh, no, I think. Okay. Robert Vico was shot several times in attempted assassination during election season. And we have South Korea's National Assembly Speaker Woo Won Cheek. So, you know, it seems like that there's some people from the, from the, yeah, that's him. And look, that guy was shot several times during an election, attempted assassination, and he made it, you know, and survived it. Um, and so I think what, and by the way, he's a friend of the US. And he's sitting here at Turning Point USA.

• 1:31:29Patrick Bet-David?

  We met him.

• 1:31:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Met him.

• 1:31:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, and so I, I think there are some people that are there, okay, I'm being invited to this, I'll go, because they're having a gathering. It would be different if it was just the three, you know, China, Russia, and North Korea, you know, standing, doing a missile test, sending a missile over the. That's next. Over the end of North Caroli- North, uh, Carolina, North Korea toward Japan. That would be annoying, but right now I think they're getting together for this parade. It, the, the people that like each other are there, and there's a couple of people from the rest of the world that are coming there, basically pay their respects. Uh, what do you think, Pat? What do you think's going on with all this?

• 1:32:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I think you're, you're, the same way like he's talking cards, they're trying to say, hey, we're unified. And we're also a pretty strong unified group for you to be paying attention to. China and Russia being unified, and Iran, those three countries are on our top five enemies list. If you think about it, China being number one, Iran being probably number two, Russia being probably, I don't know. They're in the top five. So, um, I think if, if you were them, you'd probably do it as well.

• 1:32:44Patrick Bet-David?

  If you were them and you are representing them, you'd probably hold this meeting to use as a leverage point that we're unified, yeah, but I don't know, I don't know if it's gonna make the relationship better or not. And a part of it, maybe even in the meeting with Trump, he may have said, hey, I just want you to know, I'm gonna be at that September 3 meeting with China. So, you know, these are things like, don't read into it. I've been committed to that for two years.

• 1:33:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 1:33:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I've been committed to that for six months. Who knows? I'm just saying.

• 1:33:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, it could be.

• 1:33:11Patrick Bet-David?

  But some of these things, you've made commitments, that's not like, when you're at this level, they didn't just add this to the calendar last week.

• 1:33:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:18Patrick Bet-David?

  This is like, you know how you calendar things out a year in advance?

• 1:33:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:21Patrick Bet-David?

  These guys calendar things out three, four, five years in advance. They're world leaders. The average person doesn't understand the calendar of a world leader. So, I'm not expecting everybody to understand it. Uh, okay, so let's go to the next story. I want to talk about the economy. Tom, so, US economy surges past expectations as spending investment roll, or US 3.3% in Q2 with growth even stronger than initially thought. And this is a story by CNBC. Rob, I think you have a video on this, if I'm not mistaken. Uh, but I'll read this, Tom, and I'll come to you. The US economy grew at 3.3% in the second quarter, surpassing the Commerce Department's initial 3% estimate and 3.1% Jones consensus forecast, driven by consumer spending rising

• 1:34:04Patrick Bet-David?

  1.6% from 1.4 on healthcare, pharmaceuticals and dining out with final sales to private domestic purchases, a key Federal Reserve metric, increasing 1.9% compared to the 1.2 estimate. Heather Long, chief economist at Navy Federal Credit Union, stated the good news is consumption came in higher than previously thought. Americans are continuing to spend despite the tariffs and uncertainty, albeit a lower, uh, slower pace than past years, projecting future growth at around 1.5%. Tom, thoughts on this?

• 1:34:35Tom Ellsworth?

  This is good news. Things are working. Is, is everything perfect? Is everything perfect in every state? Is energy perfect in California, where they've kind of screwed up their green? tariffs and the taxes they have on it. Sure. And then guess what? Stand stand by for, um, you know, a, a, a, a tall, uh, presidential candidate hopeful to be saying things about that. But just remember how bad it is from the taxes in that state. But the overall US economy is growing, but not too fast. If it grows too fast, that can be inflationary. And jobless claims were also down. So the number of people that turned in, uh, you know, claims for, um, uh, you know, relief. You know, that was down. And so that was good. Uh, there's still a lot of things that need to happen. We need

• 1:35:21Tom Ellsworth?

  the manufacturing that's coming back on shore. We need those facilities to get built so we can get the jobs going there. But overall, this is good. And I'll show you a chart. This will be interesting to you. It involves numbers, but it's okay.

• 1:35:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Thank you, Tom.

• 1:35:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Don't get a rash.

• 1:35:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Thank you.

• 1:35:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Do we have, I have.

• 1:35:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Too late.

• 1:35:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Give me the, uh, the Fed, uh, St. Louis, the 30 year mortgage rate and go ahead and make that, uh, the beginning of this year. Right over there, that little box, just make it 2024. That's fine.

• 1:35:52Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. Which little box?

• 1:35:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, right there. Right there. Make it 2024. Yeah.

• 1:35:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Nice.

• 1:35:56Tom Ellsworth?

  So, and yep. So now we see that, guess what? We have just dipped under six and a half percent for national mortgage rates for the first time since the blip we had with the lotion, the election, that little down.

• 1:36:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I love a lotion.

• 1:36:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I just.

• 1:36:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I love a lotion.

• 1:36:15Tom Ellsworth?

  The economy in the basket with a lotion. In the basket, Tom.

• 1:36:19Patrick Bet-David?

  A second. Yeah. Yeah, Tom. Have another sip of that funny juice dropping all these words.

• 1:36:24Tom Ellsworth?

  No, it's the, it's my Baileys and coffee.

• 1:36:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Octogenarian elotion.

• 1:36:28Tom Ellsworth?

  That's right. So anyway, there is a motion in the ocean.

• 1:36:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Whoa, Tommy. That's what's called dynamic growth of the economy.

• 1:36:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Right around the election, you saw when the interest rates went down because of manipulation and pressure that was put on by the Biden administration. However, we have not been to six and a half percent for two years. And we have just touched under six and a half percent. So in addition to everything we're seeing here in the economy, with the Fed coming out and saying, oh, scrot, all right, I'm gonna lower rates on the 17th to 19th of September. I'm And he gave that speech and he says, you know, I've been waiting for inflation from tariffs. And this is what he said, which doesn't appear that it's going to happen. So in other words, that was the Fed saying, I think there's going to be inflation from tariffs. Well, you know what? I've been waiting long enough. It doesn't look like it's going to happen. So rather than just saying I was wrong and that there's a lot of good I like about Powell.

• 1:37:19Tom Ellsworth?

  There's a lot of good. He's had a steady hand, but on this, I think he waited. But right now we've got interest rates coming down a bit and there's going to be another quarter point that comes out of the Fed funds rate that'll influence the 10 year treasuries, which influences our mortgages. So in addition to what we're seeing here, we may get in the fall, Pat, mortgages at, could it get to 5.99 for the best qualified people? Maybe we will see, but right now the numbers for the economy look good, but we still need factories brought back and jobs coming here.

• 1:37:58Patrick Bet-David?

  It's like I'm being

• 1:37:58Tom Ellsworth?

  And we need the interest rates to go down for real because that also helps the interest we're paying on the US debt.

• 1:38:04Patrick Bet-David?

  It's 5.99 and moving out of that trailer park right quick, baby.

• 1:38:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, the American economy right now, it's almost like the, uh, the old book Tale of Two Cities. It was the best of times, the worst of times. And during COVID, we learned something about the K shaped economy, about the richer getting richer and the poor getting poor and basically the wage gap that's going on right there. There is a big difference in this country between Main Street and Wall Street. Now, if you own assets, you're probably doing pretty good right now. Assets are inflated, whether it's crypto, what the stock market, whether it's your housing prices. But if you're not invested and you don't own appreciating assets and you're just the average guy out there, I understand why it's very frustrating. The Main Street guys out there, you know, uh, wages are not up big time and you're not really participating in what makes America incredible, which is the stock market.

• 1:38:53Tom Ellsworth?

  So save that money and start investing is what I'm saying.

• 1:38:56Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. Okay, gang. Well, it is Friday, weekend's around the corner and we are officially, to be exact, how many days away from the vault round?

• 1:39:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh.

• 1:39:05Patrick Bet-David?

  We are officially 10 days. Away from the Vault. I cannot wait to see all of y'all here. The event we had Wednesday night here was ridiculous. Of people being here, I give a couple tours. It felt like 120 degrees outside when I'm in the suit, walking around with these folks. Great conversations, great moments. We had a $8 million SP3 Ferrari. You know, one of them just sold at an auction a few weeks ago for $25 million.

• 1:39:37Tom Ellsworth?

  I made an offer of 7 mil, it was just not enough.

• 1:39:39Patrick Bet-David?

  No, they said no, because it's just, you know, they didn't want to take your money. But we had a great time. Most importantly, so many networking conversations, strategies, it was fantastic. And Vault Conference, we are 10 days away. Tony Robbins, Martha Stewart, David Falk, myself. 3 and 1/2 days, 296-page manual. The event's gonna be the title-sponsored event. Goliath Ventures, founded in 2019. Goliath Ventures, the global private equity firm focused on blockchain and decentralized finance. Founded by Chris Delgado. It's built on three pillars: technology, opportunity, and community. Core belief: blockchain is the foundation of a generational wealth shift. Their crew will be there.

• 1:40:23Patrick Bet-David?

  First time when you get there on September 8th. We have five hours set up for networking by 10 industries. So if you're wanting to go out there and meet others, whether you want to raise money, whether you want to find partners, whether you want to find out how other podcasters and YouTubers are doing what they're doing to grow their businesses. This is an event you go to where you get strategies and you leave. And not only that, you build great relationships. Don't come by yourself. Come with your spouse, come with your business partner. Go to thevaultconference.com, Rob. If you can go to the QR code, go to thevaultconference.com. Register for the event. We look forward to seeing all of you guys there in the next 10 days. Having said that, have a great weekend, everybody. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

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