John Bolton RAID, Trump EMERGENCY Press Briefing, Newsom's CRINGE Tweets & Target STOCK Crisis | PBD Podcast | Ep. 634

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 1:04Speaker 02

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 1:14Speaker 02

  My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:20Speaker 04

  Channel.

• 1:21Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so I hope you had a good morning because John Bolton did not. His house was raided this morning at 7:00 a.m., folks. So whatever you got going on, if you just got a speeding ticket, if you just got into an argument with your wife, with your husband, if you went to Starbucks and you asked for a London Fog and they gave you some BS coffee that's bitter, doesn't taste good. If this morning you woke up, you have a flat tire because somebody slashed your tire, there's a man named John that just got raided by the FBI this morning. So have a wonderful day, everybody. Gavin Newsom is celebrating what happened to him yesterday. He's on top of the world, the gerrymandering mother Newsom. Going out there celebrating, you know, it's uh, he's excited. He's excited about what he's got going on, but we got a lot of stuff to say about him.

• 2:06Patrick Bet-David?

  This Jubilee thing, there was Amanda Seals that Vinnie wants to show the clip, which we will. Clinic. Walmart against Target, we didn't talk about it last time, we will today. Military preparing attacks on Mexican cartels, it's happening, apparently. Yes. Target stock plunges 7% as a new CEO pick disappointed Wall Street. Cracker Barrel, you know, CEO gets up, I found a clip of Cracker Barrel talking to Michael Strahan about the decision. It's like, everybody likes it. Our employees like it. Customers like it. Stock market does not like it, lady. I don't think she gets it. Christian revival, believe in God triples amongst 18 to 24 year olds. We didn't cover it, we will today. Young adults say friendship is getting too expensive, we're gonna cover it today. Ashley St. Clair, we're gonna cover it today.

• 2:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump orders Pentagon to deploy three warships against Latin American drug cartels. Goes back to the top story, DC Police Union boss says, uh, officers fudged crime data under orders from suppliers. Walmart wins over more shoppers as tariff push prices higher. Fired LA chief, uh, uh, uh, fire chief who was blasted for slow response to deadly fires. Sues the city. Are you kidding me? Sues the city. Gavin Newsom's trying to become Donald Trump, failing miserably because he is not Donald Trump. But he's trying really hard and he's trying to be a tough guy. Like this is, you know, because, maybe it's because he's in Hollywood for so long in California.

• 3:35Patrick Bet-David?

  That he's like, you know what? What role am I gonna play this year? This year, I'm gonna play Training Day, I'm gonna be a tough guy, you know? No, no, you know what? We're gonna watch Godfather, I'm gonna be this this year. No, you know who I'm gonna be? I'm gonna be Ronald Reagan, because I just watched Dennis Quaid. So, right after the election, I'm centrist, I'm open folks, let's talk to Republicans and Democrats. Let's all get along. It's actually probably the best take ever. Yeah. On Gavin Newsom, the chameleon. Yeah. And fellow wimpocrat, Joe Scarborough's telling him. He's just trying to get along and trying to act like a tough guy, that's not working out for him. Anthony Weiner, it's ridiculous to get me charged with a crime and to do prison sentence for the things I did. You gotta love the guy, man.

• 4:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Major retailer says no California plus zero punches outlining economic reality. That's Lamontis, right? Marcus Lamontis, the chairman, I believe, of the RV company and Bed Bath & Beyond. Came up, came out and just called that Newsom says, what are you talking about, guy? What is this level of arrogance that you have? We got a couple of other stories as well that we'll get into. How many of you guys remember the movie Basic Instinct? Remember that movie with, you know, there's a lot of interesting scenes in that movie where they, I think they're doing a Basic Instinct 2. There's only one interesting scene in that movie. No, there's quite a few. It's actually, I told you one time I'm on a flight. I'm like, I haven't seen this movie for 27 years. I'm watching the movie. People are looking at me saying, why is this guy watching porn on a flight? I'm like, I'm not watching porn.

• 5:02Patrick Bet-David?

  It's just a movie that the guy wrote many, many years ago. Okay. All right, next, a couple of other stories. Cracker Barrel, we gotta touch it. New York appeals court throws out the $500 million penalty against Trump and Letitia James. Civil, she is so upset. And then we got a couple of the things that maybe happened. Now, Chris Pratt, there's a clip, we'll get to that as well. I got a handful of other clips I really, really want to show it to you guys. Hopefully, we will have the time. Having said that, some good news for you. Number one, you can officially go to the PBD Podcast Circle on Manect. And you have the option of having three different categories. Category one, you simply get to get the notes for free. You don't pay for it. It's tier number one.

• 5:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Tier two, if you want to be able to comment and post, you know, certain things in there, you can go to tier two. Tier three is something that you can post videos. You get a bunch of other added benefits for tier three. But for some of you guys that want the notes that we're going through, it's free now officially for you. Go to Manect Circle PBD Podcast, find it, download the app, go to it. Every single time we do the podcast, you get the notes. You can follow through with us while we're going through all these notes, the addendum, the stories and some of the stuff that we don't even cover for free. So download Manect, go to PBD Podcast Circle. You choose to do freemium or comment or videos, totally up to you. You'll at least get the notes.

• 6:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Next, a lot of you guys were asking about, we hadn't done a new series of signing the books, schedule craziness, call it whatever you want to call it. The team came, sat me down, I signed hundreds of books, and here's what we're doing today, as well as the new signed books with the new value attainment red hats that we got signed here. Anybody that orders the value attainment red hats, you're getting a free keychain. We got two of them right there. One is home team, one is myself. Go ahead and get them. They're signed, limited edition for these. These are not a lot of them. You can get these signed hats that'll be sent over to you. The first five that order the signed copies of either your next five moves, or choose your enemies wisely, the sales team will contact you. You'll be able to tell us what name you want us to write it

• 7:11Patrick Bet-David?

  out to with a special note instead of just a signature. The first five that place an order, it'll be made out to you. Pick and choose, order the book. We will personalize it to you, but it's the first five orders. So go to vtmerch.com, place your order, and I think when you order the books, you get four, what do you call it? Bookmarks. Bookmarks. You get all those four bookmarks that'll be sent to you as well, and the hat, the free keychain, future looks bright, sick keychain. Having said that, let's get right into it. All right. I want to go to the John Bolton story. First thing this morning, Rob, if you want to play this clip here. So John Bolton this morning is not at the house, by the way. Similar to how President Trump wasn't at the house when they went to Mar-a-Lago and the FBI raided his

• 7:53Patrick Bet-David?

  home. Well, this is what happened to John Bolton, and that's probably exactly what he looked like when he found out that the FBI showed up. Go ahead, Rob.

• 8:02Speaker 05

  The Fox News alert, we're just learning, regarding the FBI agents have raided the Maryland home of former Trump National Security Advisor, John Bolton. It happened at 7:00 a.m. this morning.

• 8:12Speaker 06

  Shortly after the raid began, FBI Director Cash Patel posting on X, quote, "No one is above the law. FBI agents on a mission."

• 8:21Speaker 07

  David Smunt joins us now with more on this breaking news. Hey, David.

• 8:25Speaker 08

  Hey guys, not much we can say at this point, but information will continue to develop. As you mentioned about 7 o'clock this morning, FBI agents raided Ambassador Bolton's home. Notable, we're being told by two government sources that they are looking for classified documents as part of a potential leak investigation. We're told that Ambassador Bolton is not in custody, he's not under arrest, but it is notable, they are at his Maryland home right now. We don't know how many agents are there, we're waiting to get a picture of the scene coming in right now, but what we're told Ambassador Bolton, who was just on TV on another network a couple of days ago, talking about the Russia Putin Trump

• 9:08Speaker 08

  summit, is now under FBI investigation. Now I want to-

• 9:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Tom, thoughts?

• 9:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you know what?

• 9:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Vinny, thoughts?

• 9:17Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no.

• 9:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, you're gonna say something.

• 9:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I do, well, you know what? F A F O. You know, you wrote a memoir, you leaked information, you were a pain in the neck during the last year of his administration, you got the Biden administration to actually drop the suit that the Trump administration Justice Department brought against you. Biden walks in, Justice Department, John Bolton, any enemy of my enemy is my friend, is what he does, and Biden does it. And so now they're going around. Now, the headlines are gonna be, "Trump is going after his enemies, authoritarianism returns to the streets of America." No, no, no, no, no. No, no. This guy was a leaker. This guy was a national security guy. This guy was not good. This guy was like the hidden

• 10:04Tom Ellsworth?

  ghost of soul of the warhawks, trying to get things. Even the Onion made fun of him. The Onion made fun of him once where they had this picture, it said, "John Bolton stumbles into Capitol claiming Iran shot him, and we must retaliate."

• 10:19Patrick Bet-David?

  That's funny.

• 10:20Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what he's saying, "I was just shot in the parking lot by Iran, let's nuke him."

• 10:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's what some people said this morning about it. Cash Patel said, "No one is above the law." FBI agents on mission. Dan Bongino said, "Public corruption will not be tolerated." Pam Bondi said, "America's safety isn't negotiable. Justice will be pursued." Always Meghan Hayes from CNN, a Biden advisor, said seems extremely political, extremely petty, suggested it smacks of pure revenge and represents poor use of FBI resources. Vinny, what do you think?

• 10:48Speaker 04

  Well, first of all, it drives me nuts that the other side has the freaking gall to even talk about, oh, they're using the law to come after. No, no. That's what Letitia James, that's what all these people were doing for Trump for years. For years now, this, this was, I was celebrating in my car, Tom, on the way. And by the way, they were looking for documents. They're probably hiding in his mustache. But this, this guy is the epitome. This is the epitome, Tom, when they, when they talk about the swamp.

• 11:13Adam Sosnick?

  I'm with you. Preach.

• 11:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, when they talk about the deep state, when they talk about the swamp, that's the guy. That is the face of the deep state. Okay, he wanted war with everybody. War with Iran, war with North Korea, war with Venezuela, doesn't matter. He's, he's that guy. He wanted the war. Uh, then he blew up Trump's, uh, North Korea, uh, uh, talks by running his mouth. He said, he called it the Libya model, Tom, where he said.

• 11:34Adam Sosnick?

  Intentionally, he did it.

• 11:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, he, he said, he basically telling Kim Jong-un, you're next, right?

• 11:39Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, Trump's heading over there.

• 11:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. And then he fought, uh, uh, uh, Trump on Afghanistan. He blocked the peace deals. And then you write a book talking crap about, about, about Trump and going after him. And it's like, this is the problem. I just hope.

• 11:52Adam Sosnick?

  And leaking facts in the book that got him sued by Trump's Justice Department.

• 11:55Speaker 04

  And good for him. I just hope, and mind you, again, guys, this is, we're less than one year in. They're making all these promises. Let's put the Epstein and all that stuff aside. I hope this is the beginning of, of the, of everything else coming after it. The Hillary, the bill, everybody that did something illegal, we want accountability. I'm happy. It's starting with this guy, but I hope it doesn't finish. I hope it keeps going.

• 12:18Adam Sosnick?

  Well, John Bolton is known for war first, ask questions later. Uh, Trump is all about Bob Barker, let's make a deal. So these guys have clashed since day one. The craziest thing is Trump. Hired him as his national security advisor. Like, if there's any difference between the first term with Trump and second term with Trump, Trump's bench that he was dealing with back then was so limited and so just not with talent and people that were on his side, you would hire a vocal critic of Trump. Now, Trump is like, who the hell are you? Why the hell are you here? Here's a guy who's made a career of bashing Trump in the last decade. And now, I don't know, some are calling it retribution.

• 13:01Adam Sosnick?

  We'll see what happens here, but no man is above the law.

• 13:04Speaker 04

  And you said this before, and I've heard other people argue the fact where they're like, well, he assigned him, just like Christopher Wray. They're like, well, if he's such a corrupt guy. And it's like, well, Trump, when he first won, he didn't, Trump had no idea. Adam, you feel me? You just show up and you're like, okay. And you know what they say? The people in Washington go, hey, that's a great guy. Christopher Wray, hire them. But you made, that's a great point.

• 13:25Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly. Eric Trump was on this podcast and said, what happened the first time versus the second time with the people we put in to vet our selection is night and day. I believe that was a quote. It was night and day. And for people in the Dems to get up and say, oh, this is a terrible use of FBI resources. Remember who were the buffoons that sent those same FBI resources to Mar-a-Lago to find nothing?

• 13:47Speaker 04

  And raid Roger Stone's house at freaking six o'clock in the morning.

• 13:51Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, let me ask you. Watch out top. Pat, your computer. Oh, my God, he saved his life. Pat, I don't think anyone's shocked by this. It's like, what? John Bolton? Why do you think this happened today?

• 14:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if this guy's in my top 50 list of people to go after. I don't know. When your guy sends me a message this morning on Manact, he got into trouble. He hasn't drank for three years. He is at an airport. He drinks. It's public. Video goes viral. He's asking me, how do I handle this? We're having a conversation together, one of our clients. And he screwed up, right? And as we all do, okay? But this is a big screw up. He hasn't drank for three years. And somebody who hasn't, who has drinking issues, or you've tried to get off alcohol, you know how tough it is. You say, I can get away with just one glass of wine or whatever. And the next thing you know. You're onstage, you know, dancing around the pole and people are saying, wait a minute,

• 14:47Patrick Bet-David?

  that's my accountant. And, um, you know, so now. Kevin, your taxman is done.

• 14:53Adam Sosnick?

  So, I mean, he's like, save that money.

• 14:56Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the most entertaining accounting I've ever had. I'm always ordered, but damn, this guy's fun to be around. Something tells me you're about to weave right now and get back to Bolton. So let me tell you how this thing works. So the whole point is, sometimes it's redirect, sometime it's, you know, look over there. Holy shit, guys, what are we doing here? And sometimes it's look over there and really look over there because something's there. So if they go after this guy, they find something and he has some stuff, guess what? They're gonna look good. But if they go raid his house and they find nothing, they're gonna look just like, uh, you know, what was the guy that did it here? The judge that went after Mar-a-Lago says, yeah, this wasn't Biden. This was my choice. I made the decision

• 15:39Patrick Bet-David?

  to go after a president because we had to find out what was gonna happen. And they did that to a president. So people on the left, that's like, I can't believe he's going after John Bolton. If Trump did this at Biden's house, and they went to Biden's house, okay, now that's retribution, you know? But if you notice, Trump's been fairly nice to Biden, okay? He's not necessarily been like Obama. Every time Obama was, was like, what? Why? It's what I inherited. It's administration I inherited. It's administration I inherited. And, and all these liberals get up and they say, well, you know, you don't ever blame the previous one. It's all Obama did for the first four years. It's all, go back and play the tapes. It's out there. About Bush, right? Everything was about Bush's fault. Bush's fault. Bush's fault. Bush's fault.

• 16:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Bush's fault. It's like, dude, kudos to Bush. Love him or hate him, when he became president and he got out, never said anything. He said nothing from that day till today. Yes, nine eleven, yes, all this other stuff. The guy, for the most part, has been a fairly, a non, uh, uh, what's the word? Non- Influential player in the last, what is the MPC nun? He's not been somebody that's been that influential. So I don't know what they're doing here. Maybe there is something there. Maybe it's redirecting, maybe it's misdirection. Whatever it is, time will tell. And we'll know within a month or two or three months that something was there or not.

• 16:54Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree, it's a risk. You could be, you know, you, you come unglued with Letitia James. You don't want to beat Letitia James by mistake.

• 17:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you don't want to do that. I agree, you don't want to do that.

• 17:04Speaker 04

  Okay, so out of the list, him being on a one of them.

• 17:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Him down there, yeah.

• 17:08Speaker 04

  Him down, him downstairs. Him, John Bolton, John Bolton, John Brennan, Hillary Clinton. All, all of the cases that they're going to talk about, the indictments are coming. They're going to be talking to everybody. They're going to have everybody, what's it, in court, the deposition that they have to do. Out of what percentage you give one person going to jail? One, getting indicted and actually seeing prison?

• 17:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I actually think there's a 25% chance someone's going to jail.

• 17:37Speaker 04

  That's pretty high.

• 17:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I think there's a 25% chance someone. I don't know who, but I think someone.

• 17:43Speaker 04

  We deserve one.

• 17:44Patrick Bet-David?

  There will be a fall guy. I think there's going to be someone that goes. Who? I don't know. Let me tell you what's the weirdest thing.

• 17:53Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, I had Michael Wolff on the other day. We had him for an hour. We had a, you know, podcast and we've been speaking a lot lately because the interest in this topic. Last night, I'm watching the, you know, Ghislaine Maxwell documentary. Have you watched it?

• 18:07Tom Ellsworth?

  On Netflix?

• 18:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, have you watched it on Netflix?

• 18:09Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I've not. The Maxwell and Netflix.

• 18:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Highly recommend you go watch it. Highly recommend you go watch it. Let me say it again. Highly recommend you go watch it.

• 18:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 18:19Patrick Bet-David?

  We were glued to the screen, me, my dad and my son, okay? Just watching, you know, how Epstein was the replacement of her father the day her father died. How close her and her father were and some of the things that he taught her. Some things that I never knew about her, their methods, some of the clients that were talking. When they were taking them upstairs and literally they would bring 16 year old girls upstairs to their penthouse. Hey, can you bring the clothes upstairs and they would bring them upstairs and they would go in their room, change in a robe, come out. So imagine the sixteen year old girl is sitting right there. They right in front of her start kissing each other and they start fooling around. And then they would look at her and invite her, "Come join us." Like that was their method of doing it, right?

• 19:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Very interesting when you see that. So for me, I, I, I talked to, uh, uh, Michael Cohen a couple of days ago. We're having a conversation together about, you know, what's really going on, what's... And his position has changed. All of a sudden now he's complimentary. You know, all of a sudden now he's, you know, a little bit more complimentary to the president. All of a sudden Hillary's complimentary to the president. Weird. All of a sudden, you know, Joe Scarborough's compliment, you know, and I say Newsom's trying to be like, uh, Trump. All of a sudden, a lot of people are complimentary. So the moment people dramatically switch that aggressively, it's one of two things. There used to be a song, uh, uh, uh, you know, the head, you know, player in charge, you can replace the player with another word. And, you know, that's the guy today.

• 19:47Patrick Bet-David?

  They either fear him and he has the personality of saying, "Do something, I will destroy you." Play along, we'll be friends. But I swear to God, if you do something, I will destroy you. And they believe him. There's a big difference when you build a reputation like that. To be who he is today took forty years of building that reputation in the marketplace. You're feared, you're hated, you're an asshole, and you're comfortable being that person. So you create friends and allies and some that always know behind closed doors, "Holy shit, this guy can destroy me if we really wanted to." And so that's his rap. And people are kind of starting to realize, maybe this is somebody not to mess with. First thing Tom said is what? You know, "Faffo."

• 20:32Patrick Bet-David?

  F around and find out. F around and find out. That's exactly what's going on right now. So, but I will tell you, it's slippery slope if there's nothing there. You better find something. If you do this and you don't find something, they're gonna say you're just like the previous administration. You're using the DOJ. Trust me. All day today, this happened one time, seven, eight. It happened two hours and 20 minutes ago. Watch how all day today, this is the easiest content for Newsom, Warren, everybody, AOC, Mamdani, everybody on the left is gonna say they're using the justice system to go after their opponents. They're using the justice and this is such an easy layup for the left to run with and they're gonna be doing that.

• 21:17Patrick Bet-David?

  But if they do this and in the next week, two weeks, four weeks, six weeks, they show something, holy shit.

• 21:22Adam Sosnick?

  But that's such hypocrisy, which I think is the point that you're making here is that all they did was weaponize the justice.

• 21:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Lawfare.

• 21:29Adam Sosnick?

  All they did was do that and then to do this. Speaking of hypocrisy, one thing I just want to spec with Bolton, you know, this guy is known as the biggest war monger around, but he never served in the military whatsoever. I think a lot of people are frustrated by people who have never served or are not actual tough guys have actually never served their country in that capacity who are calling for war. Trump never served in the military, but he's not a war monger. If anything, he's a dealmaker trying to make peace. So I feel like people are a little disgusted by the hypocrisy for someone like this.

• 21:57Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. Okay, so let's go to the next story that we got here. The next story I want to go to, believe it or not, is Walmart and Target, Rob. That's what I want to go to next because when you think about what happened with Target, Target stock plunges 7% as the new CEO picks, new CEO pick disappoints Wall Street, there won't be change when change is needed. Okay, this is page 16. Uh, Rob, I want to combine this with Walmart together, uh, Rob, and then Tom, I'm gonna come to you and I, I think you're gonna be ready for this one. All right, so let's do this one here. Target shares up 7% to 98 after renaming, after naming chief operating officer Michael Fidelke as CEO effective February 1st, 2026, replacing Brian Cornell, who said there is no one better suited to move Target forward than Michael Fidelke, but investors expecting

• 22:42Patrick Bet-David?

  an external hire were disappointed Gerald Storch, former Target vice chairman and ex Toys R Us CEO, told the Post, this guy's apparently got credibility, was the ex Toys R Us CEO, the stock price reflects that there won't be change when change is needed. Fidelke, 20 year veteran at Target, responded during an internal meeting saying there's no show, there are no shortage. of uh of uh critics out there today. The way to prove these critics wrong is with action that leads to results. Target reported a 1.9% decline in same-store sales for the second quarter ending August 2nd, 2025, with customer transactions down 1.3% and average spending per transaction down 0.6% despite beating Wall Street earnings estimates.

• 23:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Fidelke noted on a post-earning call, "Now we need to move uh more of those examples across the category, but they can give me a ton of confidence that we're on the right path here signing improvements in home goods like Disney and Marvel." Now, while this is happening, folks, the complete opposite is happening with Walmart. Walmart wins over more shoppers as tariff push prices higher. Those are two separate stories. Rob, is this a tariff story or the Target story?

• 23:54Speaker 11

  This is Walmart and the tariffs.

• 23:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Did you have the C uh the Target story as well? You had a clip on Target? Is this the pastor?

• 24:00Speaker 11

  This is the pastor.

• 24:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so CNN does a story on this one pastor. I don't know if you guys remember this or not, and this actually became a very big campaign that this black pastor was driving, saying, "Black Americans spend $12 million a day at Target, but Target doesn't listen to us." Watch this clip. Go for it.

• 24:19Speaker 07

  Let's be honest, when you started this, there were naysayers. There were people who didn't believe the FAS would work. Yeah, uh where we are right now is the uh stock has plummeted. Uh the valuation has dropped by $12 billion. Foot traffic is down by 7.9%. Uh the former CEO's salary was slashed by 42%, and uh now they got a new CEO. What have you learned through this process about the interaction of Target and this community in particular? Yeah, well, this is uh the most effective and sustainable boycott for black people in 70 years since the Montgomery Bus Boycott. And so it was not muscle memory.

• 24:59Speaker 07

  We had to teach a new generation on the sustainability of unity and that you don't see it overnight, but it's a protracted process.

• 25:08Speaker 12

  Look, if you didn't know, we, a lot of people, especially black people, love Target. In fact, they gave it a nickname of Tarjay at some point. What was that like trying to convince folks out there to give it up?

• 25:18Speaker 07

  Knowledge is power. The Bible says people die from a lack of knowledge. When black people understood that we spend 12 million dollars a day at Target and I couldn't think or find one black company that earns 12 million dollars a day, people began to have the light bulb go off and say, I can't spend my dollars where I'm not getting dignity.

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• 26:37Speaker 07

  Tom, thoughts?

• 26:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's three things here. First, Target in 2023, they had that, they go back, they had a CEO that came from the outside world. Not didn't grow up in Target. He was there 10 years. The first five got kind of rough because boom, suddenly he's in COVID. But as he came out of COVID in 2023, he went DEI crazy and was putting all of these trans kids bathing suits for six-year-olds. Tuck friendly. That contain, yeah, that contained instructions and said they were tuck friendly. So tell your six-year-old boy, don't worry about this little extra equipment you came with. They're just gonna tuck it in here. Mommy, you're hurting me. The, um, and so that had that and everybody freaked out. And meanwhile, there was also, you know, these churches that were looking at it and saying, wait a minute.

• 27:22Tom Ellsworth?

  We don't think this is dignified and it wasn't a weekend boycott. This has been multi-year and it's been very effective. It's been over two years that this has been working. And what they do is target fast. For those of you that don't know what the word means in this category, when they say a fast, it's like you will fast from something, meaning you will abstain from it. Hey, I'm fasting, except water on Friday and I'm having a day of reflection and prayer. So you're fasting from food. So when you see those signs that say target fast, it says time to fast from Target, meaning abstain from Target. It's been very, very effective. Meanwhile, when all of this went down, what did Walmart do? Hey, remind them that we're from Bentonville, Arkansas.

• 28:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Remind them what we stand for and Target and Walmart said, guess what? We are seeing customers switch to other items that are affected or not affected by tariff. But we will continue to absorb some of the cost of tariffs to keep price hikes below national retail averages. In other words, we're going to try with the tariffs, with all inflation, everything. We're going to see if we can get our price increases to be lower than the national average. So we're trying to help the consumer more and they went back and they doubled down on who they were, which was America's big box retailer. And so Target takes the L, then.

• 28:47Tom Ellsworth?

  What do they do? They say, hey, we have a great idea. The COO who's been here, who's part of this executive team, we're gonna put him in charge. And he's been around forever. It's like, what? What? It's like I have two kids. Let's say I got two 15-year-old sons. They're both delinquents. One of them breaks a bunch of windows in the neighborhood. And then we say, that's okay. This is what I'm gonna do. My other son is gonna be president of Neighborhood Watch. That'll work. Yeah. Right? Wait a minute. He was running with the-

• 29:14Patrick Bet-David?

  It's actually a very good example you're using there.

• 29:16Tom Ellsworth?

  It's just like, right?

• 29:17Patrick Bet-David?

  To say the same. So let me ask you though. Would you bring somebody from the outside in this situation? Would you use the same? Would you use somebody internally? Because maybe, you know, uh, uh, maybe, just maybe, this guy was the problem. Maybe, just maybe, this guy was, uh, uh, part of the issue of being too much of DEI. Now, do we know if this guy, Michael Fidelkey, this guy was the other guy's right-hand guy? Is that, is that what we know?

• 29:40Tom Ellsworth?

  That's correct. He was the COO. And sometimes I think you have to make the move that Starbucks made. Hey, we chose the wrong guy. Goodbye. And we're gonna bring somebody from the outside because we want the outside guy to address everybody on the inside.

• 29:53Patrick Bet-David?

  So what if this guy's the interim guy until they find a guy to get the full-time job? Because Rob, can you pull up the picture I just, I just sent you right now in text? Here's what happened to the stocks. This is by far the best visual to look at, what I'm about to show you. It's gonna show you where Target's stock price was a couple of years ago compared to where Walmart is now today. Watch this. Bingo. The red is Target. Look where red, uh, Target was in 2022, and look where Walmart was. Actually, look at that number. Target was close to $300 a share. Walmart was at $80 a share. Fast forward to today. Walmart's nearly $300 a share. Target is at $60 a share, give or take. One bad leader can destroy a brand.

• 30:36Patrick Bet-David?

  There was a point, people were saying Target's a better product than Walmart. But you know what? The moment you forget what, who your customer is. Who, who shops at your place? Families.

• 30:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Families who can't afford, this is low and middle income families that are coming to your place. Hell, we would go shop at Target. I'm telling you ourselves, we would go shop at Target. And I'm a Sam Walton guy. But you make decisions like this, you lose them. The, the thing that this was a double whammy, Tom. This is the part that was a double whammy. Not only did they lose the family guys by going woke with the whole trans, all that stuff. But you lose the black vote? How do you do that? You lost both of them at the same time? That's what you call double dumb, is what you call it, right?

• 31:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Ernest Hemingway's School of Gun Cleaning. Adam, thoughts?

• 31:22Adam Sosnick?

  So, uh, go woke, go broke. I mean, that's a similar theme here. I mean, Target is basically the Disney of retail shopping, you know? Don't forget where Target, eh, their headquarters is located. Do you know where it is?

• 31:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Minneapolis.

• 31:35Adam Sosnick?

  Minneapolis, Minnesota.

• 31:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Weird.

• 31:37Adam Sosnick?

  So, interesting, the George Floyd situation there at the tip of the spear. Meanwhile, you said that, uh, Walmart's headquarters is in where? Arkansas? Pretty red state, almost. Somebody call it one of the red estates in the country. Uh, you know, I used to, believe it or not, guys. There's no Walmart in South Beach, so I haven't been to Walmart in years. The only time I actually did spend time at Walmart is when I lived in this beautiful, beautiful town, town called Addison, Texas. I went to Walmart after living in Miami my entire life. I was like, oh my God, everything's free. Everything. 92 cents, 44 cents, a dollar 29, like, anything. You could buy anything you want. It's crazy. Save that money.

• 32:23Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, there is a Target in Miami Beach, oh, in Miami, that I'll go to from time to time, and I understand why he said that, you know, certain people call it Target. It is a classier type of shopping experience. But, uh, go woke, go broke. I don't, how do you think Target is gonna? Uh, do you think they're gonna bounce back from this, Pat? Like, what, I don't, I don't see Target going out of business or anything like that.

• 32:43Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the part I'm really trying to find out. On, on, was it, was it DEI? Was it, uh, it, it not, uh, uh, uh, listening to the African-American community with that pastor who looks like he's a second away from singing a song called "My Mind's Telling Me No, But My Body", he looked, I mean, he looked like he was related to.

• 33:01Adam Sosnick?

  But my body telling me.

• 33:03Patrick Bet-David?

  But watch this here. So if you, Rob, can you pull up, did Walmart have DEI? And can you compare DEI policies between Walmart and Target? Compare DEI policies between Walmart and Target? Because it's not like Walmart wasn't doing some DEI stuff.

• 33:18Adam Sosnick?

  Walmart did do some DEI stuff.

• 33:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Walmart did it as well, just not at the level.

• 33:22Adam Sosnick?

  They didn't make the headlines for the talking. They didn't go full.

• 33:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So, while we go roll back a shift, so they ended their DEI program in November of 2024. Trump got selected, significantly scaling back the DEI, uh, including sunsetting a racial equity center established for, after George Floyd, phases out DEI language, replacing it with communication with terms like belonging and experience, though still asserting that equity and non-discrimination remain core. Okay, stop prioritizing suppliers based on racial, gender, diversity, and also, also removed certain transgender. Okay, so they had it, they removed it.

• 33:53Adam Sosnick?

  Very quickly.

• 33:54Patrick Bet-David?

  But they did have it.

• 33:55Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 33:55Patrick Bet-David?

  So, external reaction shareholders, Democratic, push back, requesting rollbacks, lawmakers, Arkansas homeowners, changes. Okay, now let's go to Target. Policy changes concluded, uh, major DEI initiatives early 2025. Okay, so they waited a couple of months later, including wrapping up the three-year DEI goal and reach, whatever. Okay, ended participation in external diversity surveys, management cited, uh, alignment with the evolving external change, significant consumer pushback, including boycott and loss of market value. Target reportedly shed 12.4 billion dollars of market value and faced a 40-day boycott after the rollback. So, it's interesting. African-Americans at that church went after Target but not Walmart. Why not?

• 34:40Adam Sosnick?

  Because perception is reality.

• 34:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's so.

• 34:42Tom Ellsworth?

  They think Target is more woke than Walmart.

• 34:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Just a few months moving faster for Walmart.

• 34:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Saved them.

• 34:49Patrick Bet-David?

  But it's not even the African-American rollback, because if you go back up to Walmart, go back up a little bit more, look what it says right there. External reaction shareholders and Democratic officials push back requesting explanations for the rollback, calling it disheartening.

• 35:04Adam Sosnick?

  While the stock went to 300.

• 35:05Patrick Bet-David?

  State lawmakers in Arkansas questioned Walmart leaders on the changes and Walmart responded by emphasizing that associate treatment hiring practices and supplier efforts have not changed. Backlash from customers and staff followed, including boycotts over the rollback Walmart defend. So, so I don't know.

• 35:22Tom Ellsworth?

  DEI may look somewhat similar here.

• 35:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know here.

• 35:24Tom Ellsworth?

  But remember what the I stood for at Target? D E I. They went hard to the hoop on trans and they did it around kids. So Target put all that stuff all out in front when you walked in, trans kids. So when you look at DEI.

• 35:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you ask that question, Rob?

• 35:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Compare trans with Walmart and Target.

• 35:48Speaker 04

  And while he's doing that, Tom, I just don't understand, like, when, when you see what's happening with Bud Light and you see like these people, could they just not get out of their way? What makes you as a company with shareholders pack go, you know what?

• 35:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Bud Light has not completely recovered.

• 36:01Speaker 04

  No, hell no, they're not gonna completely.

• 36:02Tom Ellsworth?

  They came back up, but they did not.

• 36:04Adam Sosnick?

  Dana White went on board.

• 36:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, but guess what? They're still.

• 36:07Adam Sosnick?

  Shane Gillis is now a spokesman. But meaning they're getting more in line with who their customer is. Men who drink beer.

• 36:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, but would that, that blow was a hard.

• 36:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I don't know. I think honestly, honestly Walmart got lucky here. Truly Walmart got lucky here because Walmart also had the trans stuff in their, in their uh, uh, company as well. They simply got targeted and the CEO had no clue how to handle it better. Their marketing team probably had no clue how to do it. Their PR team didn't know how to handle it better. That tells you bad PR, bad marketing, bad storytelling, bad leadership, moving too slowly, cost them $12 billion and Walmart moved faster by a few months, just by moving a couple months faster, saved yourself $12 billion. I don't know how much it cost Walmart. Can you go to Walmart's stock price, please, Rob? Go to Walmart's stock price, let's just kind of go five years, if you don't mind. Go to the five year right there to the right, all the way to the right. Zoom out a little bit, okay. Uh, uh, so let's see right there. So what, uh, interesting.

• 36:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So market cap, can we go to market caps now 784? What was Walmart's market cap? Go to 2020. What was Walmart's market cap 2020? Just ask the question. No, if you just ask, what was Walmart and Target's market cap in 2020 versus 2025? I'm trying to find out because if we look at market cap, because stock doesn't mean anything. It just, you don't know what the valuation is. I want to know how much was lost. So end of 2020 Walmart was a 408 billion dollar company. Now it's a 781 to 819 billion dollar company.

• 37:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Target end up, in 2020 was a 88 billion dollar company. Damn, they're now only a 44 billion dollar company. So Walmart doubled in valuation, Target split, so COVID destroyed Target. While Target was getting close to competing with Walmart, Walmart is officially, look, look what it was in 2020, Tom. Walmart was only four and a half times bigger than Target. Walmart is now 20 times bigger than Target. They got destroyed. Very, very interesting because it's not as black and white as you see it here. It's not just DEI, Walmart's a better run organization. Organization, yeah. I think there's, there's more to them we're looking at.

• 38:25Patrick Bet-David?

  And so anyways, we'll see, we'll see what happens with these guys. Do you think people are just deciding, alright, I'm not going to go shop at Target, I'm going elsewhere? A part of it could be, so for example, the three words at the beginning of the year. Speed, signal, product. Speed, signal, product. Look at this. That's the word I announced beginning of the year this year, right? Speed, how fast did they address that DEI wasn't working? Not as fast as Walmart. How fast did they replace leadership team that needed to be replaced? Not fast enough, okay? Signal, how much noise did Target create and not know how to handle the noise? Way more noise with Target than Walmart. Way more noise. And last but not least, product. What did they actually buy, invest in and, and develop?

• 39:10Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what did Target do to make their product be better? Who knows? What did Walmart do? They made the investment, Tom. You look like you want to say something. I want to ask you a question. Please. Pat, you're now on the board of Target. Yep.

• 39:22Tom Ellsworth?

  That right there, do you take the CEO COO of the last 10 years and put them in the chair?

• 39:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't, I don't do it. No, no, you're right. That's what I'm saying. The more I'm thinking about this, the more I'm going, I don't even think it's DEI only. I don't think it's ESG only. I don't think it's a black vote only. I think it's called, hey, you know, here's, here's a question, Rob. Can you do me a favor? Can you find out if Target ever reached out that pastor? You know that pastor from that church that the video came up? What's his name?

• 39:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Jamal Bryant.

• 39:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you ask if Target, did Target ever reach out to Jamal Bryant? To have a conversation with him? I'm curious.

• 39:58Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm gonna assume no.

• 39:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm actually curious. Did Target ever reach out to Jamal Bryant?

• 40:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see here.

• 40:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh. You're asking what the Target? Yes, there was one meeting with Jamal Bryant, Target Leadership. According to The Guardian, June of 2025, Brian, okay, that's too late, though. That's way too late.

• 40:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's way too late. More recently, as profiting, Brian stated he is open to meeting with Target's incoming CEO to negotiate a resolution. Target did reach out as evidence that the first meeting with Brian Cornell, however, no further communication has taken place. Brian remains hopeful and willing to meet with the new CEO. Yeah, I don't know.

• 40:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Why do you ask that? Because you're saying that they should have met with him?

• 40:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I don't know. I, I just think like, for example, this takes me like, you know, NFL is going back to playing games again. You got freaking male cheerleaders. You really think the product wants to see male cheerleaders?

• 40:48Tom Ellsworth?

  In, in, in what city? In Minnesota?

• 40:52Patrick Bet-David?

  You really think we want to go in there and see male cheerleaders? Honestly, like you think we're going to again because I want to see this guy shake his butt? You think I'm like, oh my God, I was so fantastic. Let me buy 40 other tickets and take my kids to the flipping game. And then they still have those three things, love and all these things you gotta choose at the end of the end zone.

• 41:10Tom Ellsworth?

  And racism.

• 41:11Patrick Bet-David?

  It's just dumb. Every time you think they're making some kind of progress, they go back to this bullshit of bringing it back up and putting back into the American faces. It's so disappointing. Stop playing this flipping game. When Colin Kaepernick's deal happened in 2017, you know, it's the first question I was asking is, did Roger Goodell meet with the leadership team fast? No, they didn't. What happened? NFL went to shit show and lost a bunch of customers. And now they have this thing going on right now, but NFL is a number one product in America, but it's a number seven product worldwide. So if you want to, if you want to improve and you know who your clientele is, you want me to go look at male cheerleaders? Seriously? We're talking about male cheerleaders, Roger. You think that's what we want to do? I don't know.

• 41:56Speaker 04

  Let me say one thing.

• 41:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, it may be left to owners. So maybe the onus is not on Roger Goodell for the owners choose to have male cheerleaders. Okay, so double, what percentage of NFL teams have male cheerleaders? Can we figure this thing out? And I'm not even talking about the holders.

• 42:11Speaker 04

  Patriot.

• 42:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Because holders are big boys. I'm talking about.

• 42:14Speaker 04

  I would say seven or eight. Patriots, uh.

• 42:19Patrick Bet-David?

  What percentage?

• 42:20Speaker 04

  Oh, percentage?

• 42:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Have one male cheerleader?

• 42:21Speaker 04

  No, there's a couple of them.

• 42:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Twelve. Ravens. Twelve now have male cheerleaders.

• 42:26Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, but I want to know what these cheerleaders look like. Are they holding the pom poms?

• 42:29Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 42:29Adam Sosnick?

  They're dancing.

• 42:30Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's one. Here's the thing. What, so, so this, put it on the teams. Can you ask the question? Who, in whose discretion is it? Can the NFL, can the NFL, um.

• 42:44Speaker 04

  Force?

• 42:44Patrick Bet-David?

  No. Uh, uh, uh, mandate that NFL owners can't have male cheer, cheerleaders? Can the NFL mandate that NFL owners can't have male cheerleaders? Let's just, great question, break down, if I'm wrong. League authority with their, the NFL is a private league. The team owners operate as franchises. The league does not have authority to impose uniform rules. Okay. In theory, NFL could adopt a rule requiring all cheerleaders squads to follow certain guidelines. However, employment practices, including cheerleading hiring, are landed at the team level, not centrally. Cheerleaders are generally hired by teams management, not by the league. League and, and, a blanket ban on male cheerleaders would likely face legal challenges. Okay, that's exactly where I thought it was going to go. So, okay, I understand that part that if you do that. Now.

• 43:29Patrick Bet-David?

  But for you to put the other stuff, which is what? End racism, start with love. Can you, what were the phrases, Rob, that you're doing?

• 43:35Speaker 04

  And they have to, by the way, they have to pick one.

• 43:37Patrick Bet-David?

  That's, that's dumb.

• 43:38Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, I think we need to be careful with this. Male cheerleaders sometimes means the big, strong guy that's helping to make the pyramid. I want to know if it's trans cheerleaders. Let's ask how many NFL team have trans cheerleaders?

• 43:49Speaker 04

  The one trans guy that the Titans had just quit.

• 43:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So we have to put end racism, stop hate, choose love, inspire change. It takes all of us?

• 43:54Speaker 04

  Change what? Change what?

• 43:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me a flipping break. Like, I was done watching the NBA product, but playoffs. I was done. I haven't rooted for the Lakers since the day they signed LeBron. You want to bring this back? Seriously? You want to bring this back? What end racism, bro? What? What end racism? You talking about in the 1800s? We looked at data the other day. Only 1.5% of people were slave owners, white people were slave owners, and was mostly in the South. That was mostly Democrats, and I want to put it on our face that we have to end racism? Oh my God, let me just watch the damn game. Touchdown. Field goal. Interception. Wiped out. Big hit. Great catch. End racism.

• 44:38Speaker 04

  CTE.

• 44:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me a break. Give me a flipping break, dude. Holy shit, like, give me a break, Roger. You're getting this close to bringing the product back and you put this shit on our face again? Oh my goodness, like, this is so annoying. What else needs to happen for you to see this? Why do you think people? Anyways, man, this is just annoying to have. No, I'm so glad I'm not even...

• 45:05Speaker 04

  You OK, Pa?

• 45:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not, it's annoying because you almost had it. What are you doing?

• 45:09Speaker 04

  Why go back?

• 45:09Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you doing? It's 2025. Did you not see who won the presidency? What do you mean end racism?

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• 46:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Ah, double dump.

• 46:17Adam Sosnick?

  The woke agenda. Can I just say one thing about Minnesota? Because you know, my mom's from Minnesota. I got a lot from Minnesota. What the hell's going on in Minnesota these days? You know, the slogan for Minnesota is Minnesota nice? Everyone's nice in Minnesota. Oh, hey, how you doing? Well, there was a famous book, what? No more Mr. Nice Guy, Pat? Nice Guys Finish Last? Here are a couple of things that I just off the top of my head, Minnesota, Minnesota, Minnesota. Tampon Tim, Tim Walz. Target, they're headquartered in Minnesota. We know what's going on there. George Floyd, we saw what happened with that. Ilhan Omar, the squad, leader of the squad, doing her thing. Little Mogadishu, we see what's going on there. Our mayor, Jacob Fry, out there speaking Somali to basically pander to voters. This dude, whoever this guy is right now, if you can show a picture of this guy. Mail cheerleaders.

• 47:01Adam Sosnick?

  Something's going on in the waters of Minnesota, and it ain't America, it's Somalia.

• 47:08Tom Ellsworth?

  This goes back a long time. Walter Mondale was out there, and it's the only state that Reagan didn't win. And then they asked Ronald Reagan, what do you want for your birthday? And he said, how about Minnesota? And that would have been a clean sweep first time in history. But it go back to there, go back to George McGovern. You go back, and Minnesota has been this outpost of weirdness going back 50 years.

• 47:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. All right, let's transition away from.

• 47:33Adam Sosnick?

  No, not transition. Let's move on to the next story, Pat.

• 47:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Because you might have to be a cheerleader for Minnesota.

• 47:40Adam Sosnick?

  Move it. I want to get to the next one, Pat. I want to get to the next one.

• 47:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Where is the story about gerrymandering with Gavin Newsom? Would you know, is that in the addendum? Could be in the addendum. that we're looking at. You know what, matter of fact, since we're already in this story, let's just wrap this up with the story because it's all coming together. Cracker Barrel, okay?

• 47:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 47:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Loses almost a hundred million dollars in value as stock plunges after new logo release. Okay, Rob, if you can pull this up, please, and and show this. And then you have the clip that I sent you or is it a different one?

• 48:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, sir. This one.

• 48:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is the CEO of Cracker Barrel, okay? They went from the stock went from a four dropped 422, 7.2%. You'll see the clip here. This is what the CEO had to say about changing the logo from what it was before to what it is today. We don't have to show the whole thing, but you got to see the first 10 seconds. Go ahead, Rob.

• 48:32Speaker 15

  overwhelmingly positive that people like what we're doing. Honestly, the feedback's been overwhelmingly positive that people like what we're doing. The feedback and the buzz is so good, not only from our customers, but from our team members.

• 48:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, how? How? Okay, so Rob, can you go do me a favor and go to Cracker Barrel stock? The the response is overwhelmingly positive? From who? The LGBTQ community? Who from who is positive? I actually want to know. Look how what what looks overwhelmingly positive about that decision that you made? I I want you to make that argument. What is overwhelmingly positive?

• 49:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Employees said they liked it, Pat.

• 49:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So it dropped. Now, here's the thing.

• 49:13Tom Ellsworth?

  No, they didn't.

• 49:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what what is the what is the big deal of this story? Is this even a story? Should we just skip it and say, who cares? Let Cracker Barrel do whatever they want to do with their logo? Not a big deal. Redskins change their names to, you know, Commandos. And I know, I know, I'm just calling it Commander. But you know, whatever they want to call themselves. Why is this such a big deal?

• 49:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Here's why it's a big deal. Because she's not just changing a logo. It's changing a culture. Now, if you've been into Cracker Barrel, you know, they're connected to a lot of, you know, big service stations and you can go in there and I love it. Grab a beverage or something, you know what I'm talking about? I love Cracker Barrel, we've been there. And I do too. We had this one, there was a Cracker Barrel that we used to stop at, we drove from Dallas to Atlanta to see my mom, and we would stop at this one Cracker Barrel in the same place, and the girls just thought it was hysterical, you know, the kinda old folksy homey and fried chicken and southern stuff and, you know, we thought this kinda cool. And they serve alcohol, you could drink.

• 50:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, we didn't do that while we were driving, so the, they didn't just Pull over and take a sip, Tom. They didn't just

• 50:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Get to the point, we'll see.

• 50:27Tom Ellsworth?

  I usually let Bailey sit up front and I'm back in the backseat making pruno in a plastic bag. So, it's like, so just bored on the trip to Atlanta. So, Cracker Barrel is not just changing a logo. They say, hey, we're changing the logo and we're cleaning it up. Companies change the logos all the time. They freshen them up, they change them a little bit. This, they remove the icon of the folksy, you know, general store that it was, and says, we've also moved items that aren't selling. That's not a big deal either. Stores do that every day. Hey, you know what? You know, honey roasted peanuts aren't selling, let's have regular peanuts in bulk. They make decisions like that all the time. And they cleaned up the store a little bit, they said they're gonna lighten

• 51:09Tom Ellsworth?

  the decor inside, because every so many years they're changing tables and stuff, they get old. And now, it's like they're moving the culture. That's what's going on, Pat. And people are reacting very similarly to when Coke changed Coke. Yup. And that goes back 40 years now, Sergio Ziman, I believe it's like 40 years now where Coke changed Coke. And it's a culture. They're moving culture, not just changing a logo, and this, and CEO Julie Fels-Massino has stepped on the third rail here, and she's out there just using words, along with the CMO, and you are getting obliterated from

• 51:52Tom Ellsworth?

  X to Reddit to Wall Street, which means that as a leader, she's handling a change terrible. Forget what it is. As a CEO, you're handling a change horribly, but you're touching culture.

• 52:04Patrick Bet-David?

  There's one person that I believe can change it. One person that I believe could change it. If you hired this PR person overnight

• 52:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Overnight. Cracker Barrel. Cracker Barrel. Let me tell you who it is. I'm sure you'll look at me, Rob, if you're ready. There's one person that can change it. Hold on. Okay, one person. She can change it. She can change. Wow.

• 52:23Speaker 04

  I'm getting really hungry for some reason.

• 52:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Except the shirt is not the proper shirt, okay? But. Old country store. Old country store. If Cracker Barrel. Hired her. Goes hires a country boy CEO. Oh, my God. He comes up and says, hey, Sydney Sweeney. Is that Sydney Sweeney? You know, it's an AI version of Sydney Sweeney. We kind of, you know. She has like nine fingers. That there is kind of Crawford, Texas.

• 52:52Speaker 04

  Can I make an observation? Can you show the CEO of Cracker Barrel?

• 52:57Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, folks. I just want to prepare you guys. It's not Sydney Sweeney. The CEO is somebody else. So you have to go for it. This is the CEO of Cracker Barrel.

• 53:06Speaker 04

  Can I make an observation?

• 53:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 53:07Speaker 04

  Those, those glasses. Anybody that wears those glasses, Stephen Colbert, Rosie O'Donnell, Rachel Maddow, Mark Cuban, they all, once you put those on, something bad's coming and your brain is fried.

• 53:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Background, Rob, can we see what her background is? Maybe we're being unfair.

• 53:22Speaker 04

  And where does she buy those glasses?

• 53:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you go to her LinkedIn profile? Maybe she was. She's been there since 23. Well, I just want to know where was she at before and where does she come in from? So here's Julie Cracker Barrel, CEO and come in board member, Vivid Seats, okay, Kohan. Well, she was a board member of Kohan. So it's all board member, board member. She was at Taco Bell. The president. Five years and six months. And by the way, you know who was at Taco Bell? If I'm not mistaken, Brian Nichol was at Taco Bell at one point in time. Was he or was he not? The CEO of. Can you, can you go to Brian Nichol? Was he at Taco Bell or? I got to eat there every day. Yeah, I believe Yum Brands. Yep. Yeah, so he was from, so 2001, so okay, 2011 to 2018, he was there. So she came after him, which means they didn't work together. So

• 54:04Patrick Bet-David?

  probably not the same ideas. If you can go back to her resume, go to show all previous, right? Okay, there's, no, no, go a little bit higher, Rob. Go a little bit higher. Right after Taco Bell, where was she at after Taco Bell? North America, Irvine, California, go a little lower, SVP. She was sprinkles in LA. Fisher Prince. And at Starbucks. Sprinkles. I've seen enough. Board of directors, Starbucks, 12 years. I don't know. I don't see if I, I don't know if I see a pattern of making this dumb of a decision. I don't know if I see Coach, my favorite purse. I don't know if I see any kind of a-

• 54:35Tom Ellsworth?

  But I don't, I don't see a line in li- I don't see a brand line that lines up with Cracker Bell. You see that?

• 54:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 54:40Tom Ellsworth?

  You see the brand she's been associated with?

• 54:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Then you know who that's on? Then you know who that's on?

• 54:44Tom Ellsworth?

  It's on the board and who hired her?

• 54:46Patrick Bet-David?

  What the hell were you thinking hiring somebody like that? Well, I mean, I remember one time we hired somebody, okay? And one of our guys brought the story up to me yesterday. We hired this person. I don't know how much of this I can, let me just tell you what happened. We're at this meeting, okay? And we're sitting there with a bunch of people that run massive hotels, okay? And this person we hired, we don't know what side they're on and, you know, they're having conversations. These are pretty 20, 30 heavyweights. And somebody asked the question of who is your hero? And this person chose to go first, alright? Now, you have to realize, this is this person's first week with us.

• 55:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 55:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Loaded resume. And this person says, two of my biggest heroes of my life are Anthony Fauci and Joe Biden.

• 55:38Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 55:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Representing us.

• 55:41Patrick Bet-David?

  So, I'm sitting there, couple of my employees who are sitting there, they, what do you call it? They uh-

• 55:47Tom Ellsworth?

  They're holding back?

• 55:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, they can't hold it back. They like, you know how you come kinda like, you know, like a sap? One of those moments.

• 55:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Spit it out?

• 55:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I'm like, that's great. And what can I say?

• 55:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh my god.

• 55:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So I'm like, that's great. And then, the guys over there that we don't know where they're at politically.

• 56:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 56:03Patrick Bet-David?

  You understand what I'm saying?

• 56:04Tom Ellsworth?

  All the big hotel people.

• 56:05Patrick Bet-David?

  No, we don't know them. So it's not like we're friends. We're just all trying to do business together. And I'm trying to see like, we're building rapport. Then, I'm looking at their body language and couple of them are like, yeah, I don't know about Anthony Fauci, you know? One of them says Joe Biden's a nice man and, you know, obviously they go. And another person like, I don't know if I would say my hero.

• 56:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 56:25Patrick Bet-David?

  But it's a good president. They were both liberals, but you could tell the hero for them would be more like Obama or something like that.

• 56:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Heroes up there, baby.

• 56:32Patrick Bet-David?

  So let me tell you, sometimes when you hire, you really have to hire and kinda see where people are at. Because if your brand is a very bold brand, that actual audience on that side has to trust-

• 56:47Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to do a little bit more digging for that individual to match your brand. Does that make sense? Like, for example, if CNN all of a sudden went and hired Charlie Kirk as a CEO. That's a shock to CNN's audience.

• 56:59Speaker 04

  Big time.

• 57:00Patrick Bet-David?

  And if Fox all of a sudden went and hired Jeff Zucker as their CEO.

• 57:03Speaker 04

  Jeez.

• 57:04Patrick Bet-David?

  The audience will be like, what's the announcement?

• 57:06Speaker 04

  What happened?

• 57:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Breaking news, Fox News just hired Satan.

• 57:10Speaker 04

  Stock margin crash.

• 57:12Patrick Bet-David?

  But to the audience, that doesn't make sense.

• 57:14Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 57:15Patrick Bet-David?

  So I put the onus on Cracker Barrel.

• 57:17Speaker 04

  Cracker.

• 57:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Why'd you hire her before you, you know, brought her on board? Uh, Adam, thoughts before we move on here?

• 57:22Adam Sosnick?

  The big thing is they changed their logo.

• 57:23Patrick Bet-David?

  That's it.

• 57:23Speaker 04

  They just took the old guy out the freaking thing.

• 57:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Because it's offensive.

• 57:27Speaker 04

  It's offensive because he's white.

• 57:29Adam Sosnick?

  He's white?

• 57:30Speaker 04

  But talk about Cracker Barrel.

• 57:32Adam Sosnick?

  That's the big deal?

• 57:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, look how happy he was. He was leaning on a barrel and he's a cracker.

• 57:36Adam Sosnick?

  So the big deal for Cracker Barrel is they removed the cracker and the barrel from Cracker Barrel.

• 57:41Speaker 04

  That's like taking Aunt Jemima off of the bottle. It's like, what are you doing, you dumbass?

• 57:44Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, if you really actually care, uh, don't call it Cracker Barrel.

• 57:49Speaker 04

  Well, I mean.

• 57:50Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, I think we're missing the point here. They removed the subtle messaging here. I just call it like the Whitey Waffle House or something like that.

• 57:59Speaker 04

  Well, now it's just, it's not even the barrel. It's just white people showing up.

• 58:03Adam Sosnick?

  Could you imagine if this were a different restaurant?

• 58:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Cracker Barrel.

• 58:06Adam Sosnick?

  What you'd call it?

• 58:07Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're looking for a replacement.

• 58:09Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 58:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, let Adam just lean up on there and be like, here.

• 58:12Adam Sosnick?

  We're gonna call it Bagel Barn moving forward.

• 58:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam would call it the Jewish Barrel. Adam would call it the, you know, you know.

• 58:20Adam Sosnick?

  The lox.

• 58:21Speaker 04

  Taste the soup. You'd call it Taste the Soup.

• 58:23Adam Sosnick?

  What's wrong with the soup? Try the soup. Let me tell you something. My dad was notorious with me and my dad had a very contentious relationship. And every once in a while, when we were ready to meet, we would meet at a local restaurant. Usually it was Denny's.

• 58:36Speaker 04

  Classy.

• 58:37Adam Sosnick?

  Then when my parents got divorced, I don't know, I guess he wasn't near a Denny's. It would always be Cracker Barrel.

• 58:42Speaker 04

  Nice.

• 58:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Fight broke out.

• 58:44Adam Sosnick?

  And then, no, we were always there and obviously, you know, we did our cracker thing. But then it's interesting enough, my dad, shout out to you, Dad, rest in peace. He started dating a black lady.

• 58:54Speaker 04

  Really?

• 58:55Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, no, straight up. And next thing you know, he's like, meet me at Waffle House. And next, and that's what that became.

• 59:03Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not a joke.

• 59:04Adam Sosnick?

  This is not a joke. So it became like.

• 59:06Patrick Bet-David?

  What was the lady's name?

• 59:07Adam Sosnick?

  I can't talk about that. However, my dad would roll with the punches here a little bit. Depending on who was dating, you know, we'd meet at the different type of restaurants. It used to be Cracker Barrel.

• 59:18Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, you have. That's so good. I'm telling you right now, I have a whole different little respect.

• 59:24Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, no, no, no. You don't understand.

• 59:25Patrick Bet-David?

  My dad did not discriminate.

• 59:27Speaker 04

  When you said she dated a sister, I thought it was like a nun, not an actual sister.

• 59:31Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, no, he was smashing a sister. Actually, a Jewish guy dating a nun is also kind of weird. That's very weird. Because nuns aren't supposed to. Then he would take his black girlfriend to Cracker Barrel. Everybody would.

• 59:41Patrick Bet-David?

  This story just went.

• 59:43Adam Sosnick?

  We had lost control.

• 59:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Full blown cracker. You know, first we're talking and racism. Okay, all right.

• 59:50Adam Sosnick?

  I think we should make racism great again.

• 59:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 59:53Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, the rant that you went on.

• 59:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Not if you score a touchdown in the end zone in the NFL, you have to end it. By the way.

• 59:57Adam Sosnick?

  It's not racist if you make fun of everybody.

• 1:00:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Incentivity epic, which is head to racism. Looking forward to watching football. I'm not watching nothing. Looking forward to watching football and you do something stupid like that, something stupid like that after watching. Anyways, let's go. When you fumble the balls, it's going to be something.

• 1:00:16Adam Sosnick?

  Because Roger Goodell is a Cracker Barrel.

• 1:00:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to the next. Roger Goodell has CTE. And by the way, Roger Barrel, Roger, Roger Barrel.

• 1:00:22Adam Sosnick?

  Roger Barrel.

• 1:00:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Roger Goodell was just standing behind Trump a couple of weeks ago at the White House.

• 1:00:27Adam Sosnick?

  Weird.

• 1:00:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know about this, man. All right, let's go to redistricting. All right, California Democrats pass Newsom's redistricting plan. Rob, if you want to pull up the clip as I'm going through the story here, so they, so they finally get this thing passed. And he blames Trump and Texas for it. Here's him celebrating. Do you have the, where afterwards he's saying a couple of things? Yeah, right there, if you can do that. So here's Gavin Newsom accelerates the process. And Democratic-controlled legislature formally approved a plan Thursday to redraw the state's congressional lines, teeing up a special election on November 4th, Proposition 50, which includes a constitutional amendment and two bills laying out logistics and map proposals, but Gavin Newsom said to sign them, "We're responding to what occurred

• 1:01:12Patrick Bet-David?

  in Texas, and we're neutralizing what occurred, and we're giving the American people a fair chance." Okay, play the clip here, Rob, go for it.

• 1:01:20Speaker 16

  We got here because the President of the United States is struggling. We got here because the President of the United States is one of the most unpopular presidents in US history. We got here because he recognizes that he will lose the election. Congress will go back into the hands of the Democratic Party next November. We got here because of his failed policies. Those are being exposed hour by hour, reinforced today by Walmart, announcing they'll be raising prices because of the tax increases, because of the tariffs. Reminded every day by slowing economy, growing mistrust, distrust all across this nation, across the board, he is failing. He recognized that, and that's why he made a phone call

• 1:02:04Speaker 16

  to Greg Abbott, asking for five seats. Can't win by playing by traditional sets of rules. He plays by no rules. I remind you all the time, it's not the rule of law, it's the rule of dog.

• 1:02:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You're so funny. Pause it right there, Rob. Do me a favor, Gavin, I got a question for you. Rob, I just texted you something. Have you read this article at all? Have you gone to this article, Gavin, respectfully? Can you tell us what happened here? Why is it that Democrats get lowest ratings from voters in 35 years? Why is that? I'm actually curious. Why do you think that is? Why do you think that it's gotten to a point where you had to either hire two trolls, three trolls as a team to tweet like Trump and send messages like Trump non-stop, and, you know, to think and to see if you can beat the guy by trying to be like him? Why is it that you're such a, honestly, and by the way, there's

• 1:02:59Patrick Bet-David?

  a part of me, you know, when I was younger, my, my dream was to be an actor, okay, and I even went to acting coaches.

• 1:03:05Speaker 04

  You're still good, though. I'm gonna throw that out there.

• 1:03:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if I'm a, you know, but, but listen, but it was a dream. Like, this is why I love movies. This is why, you know, I think there's so much power, and we're gonna get into the movie business next two to five years. We're building a lot of stuff here on our campus. If you see our campus, every day there's something new that's being built. We're gonna build a massive amphitheater, we're gonna build a- Uh, three, uh, uh, eight-story buildings here to a house, fifteen hundred employees, two thousand. We're doing a lot of stuff here that no one's aware of. But it's exciting times that we're going through, right? But I wanted to be an actor. And you'll watch a movie and, and you'll see someone act the part and I'm like, "I, that was horrible. I think I can do better than that guy in that part." I, I just didn't feel the emotion in that part. I would have taken this angle, right? You do this all the time because you're a phenomenal actor, right? Thank you. It's natural for you, okay? And we, listen, I don't want to undermine Chad.

• 1:03:51Patrick Bet-David?

  He, he's also a great actor, but I put you at the top. So wherever Chad has a shout out to you, please don't be upset. God bless you. He's really good too. I'm watching, I'm watching, I'm watching Gavin Newsom, okay? Like, the younger guys out there that can cut clips, you know what would be a great clip to cut? If somebody shows how many personalities this guy has. Okay? The hardcore liberal, the tough guy, the independent centrist, the guy that wants to sit down and talk to Charlie Kirk and other Republicans and move a little bit more to the center, okay? Then the guy that's willing to go AOC, you know, all the way to the left. Then the guy that wants to go blame Trump. Then the guy that wants to take responsibility.

• 1:04:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Then the guy, I mean, who are you, buddy? You know, are you somebody that's just a chameleon that's trying to adapt and fit? And no one knows, do you know what's the most attractive thing about Trump? Do you know what the guy's about? He, he, you, you don't have to like it. He's gonna tell you what he stands for. What the hell do you stand for, buddy? What are you standing for? And, and everybody knows you're trying to run for office. Everybody knows you're dying to be a president. Everybody knows that. Kudos because people are talking about it. So you gotta give him credit because he's getting the eyeballs. So he's definitely know how to get the eyeballs there. But you know if this thing passes, Tom? If this thing passes, what was it, prop, what, what prop was it, Rob? Prop what? Prop, uh, ninety?

• 1:05:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, uh, whatever the proposition was that he talks about in the... Let me read this real quick, so I give the right prop credit. So Proposition 50, right? November 4th. So you, this Proposition 40 is gonna pass. There's 80% chance this thing's gonna pass.

• 1:05:36Tom Ellsworth?

  80?

• 1:05:37Patrick Bet-David?

  80% chance this thing's gonna pass. So then it goes from a 43 to 9, House of Representatives in the state of California, to 48 to 4, Democrats to Republicans. Guess what, Republicans? You're done in California. Your voice doesn't matter. And FYI, America, who likes Newsom, if you guys for a second start getting with this Trump is bad, and he is horrible, and all the people that voted for him and are like, I just don't like him, and he didn't keep his promises and all this other stuff, no problem, this guy's gonna come in and do the same thing to America. Just letting you know. Okay? Just letting you know. So the good news is the fact that Republicans' bench is gonna be very deep for 2028.

• 1:06:21Patrick Bet-David?

  It's gonna be a dogfight. But this guy's playing games and he's acting nonstop, and he cannot make up who he wants to be. He reminds me of what Romney did when he almost beat Obama, and he listens to one of his campaign marketing girls that said, "Don't be too tough on Obama after Benghazi. You were too strong and you won that debate when he beat him. He destroyed Obama in the second debate, absolutely destroyed the guy. And in the third debate, he doesn't once bring up Benghazi, and he wants to win over female voters because, hey, talk about salad and health." What? Romney could have been a president. But he listened to somebody confuse the hell out of him. And it looks like this guy's marketing team can't make up their minds what side they're on. Tom, what are your thoughts with this?

• 1:07:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Him passing it, he putting all the blame on Trump? Where do you see this thing taking place?

• 1:07:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, Gavin Newsom has become Sybil. Sybil was a movie way back, late 70s, 80s, about this poor young woman suffering from split personalities. And so here we have Gavin Newsom, a poor young woman suffering from split personalities. And I look, I'm gonna read, I'm gonna read some things that were, this says, I don't even need to say anything, I don't have to conjure up a feeling or a synopsis here, because I have- From one of his harshest critics right here. It's quote, "It's quite embarrassing actually how Newsom is arguing and targeting the wrong opponent. Donald Trump's not on the ballot in 2026 for midterms. He's not on the ballot in 28. You're not running against Donald Trump." Says, "Your posts using all caps inflammatory language are trying to capture attention?

• 1:07:54Tom Ellsworth?

  This is the attention economy you're going after. Why don't you talk about affordability and policies and good ideas? You've got to get attention somehow so you're on social media doing parodies of Donald Trump? I think you need to look beyond 26. Your approach includes these AI-generated visuals and phrases? Please." Uh, Vinnie. And guess who that was?

• 1:08:16Speaker 17

  Who?

• 1:08:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Joe Scarborough.

• 1:08:18Speaker 17

  Rob, I just think, Rob, can you show us?

• 1:08:20Tom Ellsworth?

  His harshest critic. By the way, good call. Play this clip, Rob. When you've got Scarborough saying this. Go for it.

• 1:08:26Speaker 17

  ... are trying to find their footing and it's quite embarrassing actually. I mean Gavin Newsom, I mean have you seen what he's doing online and say, "Just take a deep breath. Don't, don't try to turn the ship 180 degrees and, and they don't know what to do. I have a good idea. Instead of trying to make school Donald Trump, talk into the camera about affordability. Talk about making groceries like more, more affordable. Talk about what you're going to do for housing. Talk about what you're going to do for energy prices that continue to go up. We heard the congressman yesterday talk about energy prices skyrocketing in New Jersey.

• 1:09:11Speaker 17

  You know, don't try, yeah. As, as, as I've been saying. Yeah, you've been saying. Donald Trump's not on the ballot in 26. He's not on the ballot in 28. I said that last week. Why try to drag Muhammad Ali in the ring when you got Chuck Webner standing right in front of you? Good analogy. Webner's a bleeder. He's a bleeder. You want him. So why are you going, "I'm going after Donald"? No, you're not, you're not running against Donald Trump. Go after Tweedle Dee or Tweedledum. You know, Chuck Webner, a bleeder, go after him. Let us respect Chuck Webner.

• 1:09:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, all due respect, of course.

• 1:09:53Speaker 17

  He kinda held in there long.

• 1:09:54Speaker 00

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• 1:10:53Speaker 04

  Isn't it? Rob, who are the two people that are behind his Instagram and social media push? Where are those people at? Do you know where they're at, Rob? You guys have to see like, and again, I have a feeling one of them has dark glasses. Let's see. Let's see. Come on. Come on. Where there's, it's two younger looking people that are behind. It's all good, Rob. Can you, can we play the clip back? Cause I want to, I want to go on Gavin a little bit. Can you show the clip of him saying what he wants them to start doing to, to Republicans? Which I think is a call, is a call to action. And if he wants to play that game.

• 1:11:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Which clip is it?

• 1:11:28Speaker 04

  He says punch him in the.

• 1:11:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:11:30Speaker 04

  Can we show, can we show, like, guys? And just, and again, I want everybody out there, remember when we hit, when they hit us low, we go high. All that BS that you heard from all these fake ass Democrats. Okay. They're the party of violence. Let's not, don't forget that. Okay. These are the people, and this is a call to action, because those two people, Rob's going to find who they are. This is the type of attitude that they're telling Democrats to have, Rob. Go ahead. Yeah. Oh, by the way, oh, weird. They both have the glasses.

• 1:11:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Get out of here.

• 1:11:58Speaker 04

  These are the two people that are in charge of his social media. These are the guys and the girl. They always have dark glasses. I'm on to something. Rob, play the clip with him.

• 1:12:06Tom Ellsworth?

  The bow tie, awesome.

• 1:12:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, play the, play the clip.

• 1:12:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't care about their looks. Their work is what is terrible.

• 1:12:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, the glasses that tell.

• 1:12:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:12:12Speaker 04

  Go ahead. This is radical. Rigging of a midterm election. Radical.

• 1:12:19Speaker 16

  Rigging of an election destroying vandalizing this democracy.

• 1:12:25Speaker 04

  What's that a democracy?

• 1:12:25Speaker 16

  The rule of law. So I'm sorry. I know some people's sensibilities. I, I respect and appreciate that. But right now, with all due respect, we're walking down a damn different path. We're fighting fire with fire. I'm going to punch these sons of bitches in the mouth.

• 1:12:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, so, okay. You know, you can't say that wearing that shirt in that studio. I mean, you just don't look. Wait, Rob, play that back again. That does not look like a guy that's going to come down there and pop somebody.

• 1:12:52Patrick Bet-David?

  No, fast forward a little bit more to, to when he starts saying punching. Yeah, go right there. Thank you.

• 1:12:56Speaker 16

  Appreciate that. But right now, with all due respect, we're walking down a damn different path. We're fighting fire with fire. I'm going to punch these sons of bitches in the mouth.

• 1:13:07Speaker 04

  Oh, amen to that.

• 1:13:08Patrick Bet-David?

  We're going to punch these sons of bitches in the mouth.

• 1:13:10Speaker 04

  Like what, like if that's not a call to action, meaning we're going to fight, like we're going to get violent. And my, can I just break it down a little bit, Pat? He said, this is a radical rigging of a midterm. Says the guy who's made it illegal to ask for identification to vote in his godforsaken state. Okay. And he said, destroying vandalizing this democracy. We live in a constitutional republic. I'm breaking down everything. He's full of shit. Sorry for my language. And the rule of law. He's talking about the rule of law. Again, Democrats are the going against everybody with law, using lawfare. And then he said, fighting fire with fire, saying the guy that his state can't fight fire with water because there isn't any. Okay. This guy's an absolute joke. And I just hope like, because he has a backing, obviously. People are going to vote for this guy.

• 1:13:55Speaker 04

  Californians, wake up. Do you see what this guy's, if you can't see that he is a slithering freaking snake? Number one in homeless, number one in unemployment. Okay. When the fires are raging, nobody's to be found. And then they're buying up all the land that people in the Palisades can't even buy their freaking land or, or build houses there. I hope you guys wake up. Maybe it's, maybe it's time for a change. Larry Elder had a chance. You guys had a chance to recall this guy and you didn't. It's, it's Stockholm syndrome, Pat. It has to be. You guys love abuse. You love the high taxes. You like the crime. Keep doing it. Keep doing it unless you want to change. And I'm tired of all these people calling me and complaining about California. What am I doing? What the hell am I doing? It's your fault. You guys keep voting for this shit because.

• 1:14:40Speaker 04

  The other side's Hitler, the other side's bad. No, you guys need to wake up, man. And I get it, people, my whole family lives there. My whole family is there, but unless you guys make radical change, it ain't gonna happen.

• 1:14:50Adam Sosnick?

  Amen. Well, I don't think Gavin Newsom could run again for governor of California.

• 1:14:56Speaker 04

  No, he's going for president. He's 2026.

• 1:14:58Adam Sosnick?

  So, I mean, he's just, at the same time, he's trying to basically play to his base in California that basically will do anything other than appease Donald Trump. We know that about Newsom. But don't be surprised when he runs for president and he tries to do what he did in San Francisco and just clean it all up when she and the Communist Party, and he's gonna put lipstick on a pig and he's gonna try to pretend that he's doing a great job and he's gonna try to just clean it all up. And we know what Gavin Newsom is. He's a complete actor, he's a complete chameleon, and he's the best politician in the United States. If you want to know what an amazing politician, but a disgusting human looks like, look no further than Gavin Newsom.

• 1:15:38Adam Sosnick?

  He'll, he'll flip-flop, he'll change, he'll act, he'll put on a tough guy act, he'll be LGBT friendly, he'll protect families, all in one sentence. You know, California, you know, good luck to you. Bless your heart.

• 1:15:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, well, we'll see. We'll see what's gonna happen here as we're going through the next phase. November 4th is when the vote is. There's a lot of stuff going on on November 4th. You know what else is going on November 4th? Mamdani, New York, mayor. Saw a clip the other day of him crying, of saying the amount of death threats he's getting for being Muslim. And I'm just seeing this guy, watching what this guy's doing, slowly but surely, slowly but surely, he is, he is winning the naive voters over and you're gonna see suddenly him showing up and becoming who a lot of people didn't think that an outsider could win there, but it looks like he's gonna be doing that. Anyways, let me get to the next story here. Uh, next story I want to go to is...

• 1:16:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Um, I'm trying to see which, okay, let's go with this one here. Military preparing attacks on Mexican cartels. Okay. Uh, so this story came out because they've been going back and forth with, uh, the president of Mexico. And it's been a lot of weird stories back and forth. The Trump administration directed a military to prepare lethal strikes against cartel targets in Mexico with a top secret order issued in late spring 2025, tasking Norton command to manage attacks by mid-September. As a senior intelligence office stated, not only is Donald Trump un- uh, uh, equically, un- uh, uniquely, uh, focused on TCOs, uh, having designated, uh, them terrorists is one of his first executive orders, but he has shown himself

• 1:17:21Patrick Bet-David?

  to be willing to take unilateral action despite potentially negative political ramification. The order discussed at a July meeting in Colorado Springs, led by Colby Jenkins, unconfirmed Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations and low intensity conflict could involve unilateral actions, uh, without Mexican approval. General Gregory M. Gilot, Northcom Commander, hosted Mexican military leaders. Uh, uh, Mexican Navy Secretary Administration Raymond Pedro Morales Angeles emphasized joint operation, saying today more than ever the challenges we are face, we face, demand a joint coordinated and adapted response. Tom, thoughts?

• 1:18:02Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll tell you, the Mexican president, she is out there saying, oh, you will not do things here. You will not do things here. And they're cutting deals where that they've got drug dealers on death row. Uh, we'll ship you to the United States if you agree that they're just, uh, life without parole. And what we'll do this, we're making these prisoners, prisoner, not even swaps, or just sending them. So you've got that president going out saying all that. Meanwhile, Vinny, look at this in February 2025, her own Navy admirals and Admiral Secretary were getting together with our military, talking about.

• 1:18:40Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, Aegis-class cruisers, destroyers, coming up to the coast of Mexico, and there's three of them that have been sent down there, that have all of this radar and missile warfare stuff, and then they have these Poseidons, which are these great big radar airplanes that fly over, they already have the targets, they know what they're going after, and they're going down here, it's just waiting for them to push the button, and the hypocrisy that's come from the Mexican president, you will, last week, remember she's screaming, "You will not step foot over here, okay, we won't step foot, but we'll wheel up three of our baddest destroyers, all these missile-guided ships, we'll put three of them over here,

• 1:19:20Tom Ellsworth?

  we'll fly the Poseidons over Mexico, and then we will go pinpoint, take out people we want to take out." And so what I think, that the really funny thing here, is Trump is saying, "Hey, if you don't do it, I will do it," number one, and then she's saying, "You won't step foot on soil," it's almost like maybe she chose her words carefully, "You won't step foot on soil, yeah, but you will sail up right next to us and launch a bunch of extremely loud, damaging firecrackers."

• 1:19:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, there's a Wall Street Journal story, I'm gonna come to you, Rob, if you want to prepare this clip, Trump orders Pentagon to deploy three warships against, warships against Latin American drug cartels. Did he say three warships? Yes, three warships, and by the way, this is a Wall Street Journal story. Rob, do you have that clip on this one?

• 1:20:07Speaker 11

  I do, this is Pam Bondi talking about Maduro and why they are sending the ships to Venezuela.

• 1:20:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:20:12Speaker 18

  Today, the Department of Justice and State Department are announcing a historic $50 million reward for information leading to the arrest of Nicolas Maduro. Maduro uses foreign terrorist organizations like TDA, Sinaloa, and Cartel of the Suns to bring deadly drugs and violence into our country. To date, the DEA has seized 30 tons of cocaine linked to Maduro, and his associates with nearly seven tons linked to Maduro himself, which represents a primary source of income for the deadly cartels based in Venezuela and Mexico. Cocaine is often laced with fentanyl, resulting in the loss and destruction of countless American lives.

• 1:20:56Speaker 18

  The DOJ has seized over $700 million of Maduro-linked assets, including two private jets, nine vehicles, and more. Yet Maduro's reign of terror continues. He is one of the largest narco traffickers in the world and a threat to our national security. Therefore, we've doubled his reward to $50 million. Under President Trump's leadership, Maduro will not escape justice and he will be held accountable for his despicable crimes. If you have any information to bring this criminal to justice, call 1-202-307-4228, or go online.

• 1:21:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Sounded like one of those lawyer commercials.

• 1:21:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:21:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you been injured from slipping and falling? Vinnie, go ahead.

• 1:21:47Speaker 04

  It's my money, I want it now. Listen, I absolutely love this, okay? Like, if you think about it, think of all the countries around, you know, Russia, we have our thing with China, all these different countries. Why are we looking, like, the real war is literally right beneath us. It's freaking Mexico. And I absolutely love that he's doing this. Just think of, just, Rob, what is the death count of Americans? Guys, we're not losing Americans in any other capacity, accidents and stuff like that, okay, but how many fentanyl deaths are happening every single year in the past couple of years in the United States, Rob? Is it 100,000?

• 1:22:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's 100,000 plus.

• 1:22:21Speaker 04

  So Pat, think about that number. We're losing that many people every single year, okay? They're sex trafficking all those 300,000 children missing from the freaking border. You have all the drugs, you have all the guns coming, where was it, Rob?

• 1:22:34Speaker 11

  Around 331,000 deaths in the United States due to fentanyl-related overdoses since 2020.

• 1:22:41Speaker 04

  In four years, that's, yo, that's war numbers. Those are war number deaths, and I'm telling you right now, and the cartel, I didn't want to see it, Pat. Somebody showed me a video of how ruthless these guys are. I don't want to get into major detail, but they had this guy, hands on a fence, he's alive, and they're Literally cutting open his chest and taking his heart out while he's still alive. These guys are freaking brutal. They freaking kill Americans. So guess what? You want to talk about Gavin's fight fire with fire? That's I'm so happy that they're doing that shit because this is sending a message. And if the president doesn't want to get involved, guess what? Then you're the enemy as well. We have to go in.

• 1:23:18Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what that is every year? You know how many US servicemen died in Vietnam?

• 1:23:20Speaker 04

  How much?

• 1:23:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Fifty eight thousand two hundred.

• 1:23:23Speaker 04

  In the whole war?

• 1:23:24Tom Ellsworth?

  The entire war.

• 1:23:24Speaker 04

  And we've lost that in four years.

• 1:23:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Every year, every year we have, we lose a Vietnam war and more.

• 1:23:29Speaker 04

  That is insane. So how do we stop it? That's how you stop it.

• 1:23:33Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I mean, uh, it's almost like you don't want terrorists living right next door to you. It's almost like you kind of got to do something about it or they're going to overtake your entire country. I'm not talking about Gaza right now. I'm talking about America. Uh, I'm fully supportive of Trump building the wall and taking down Maduro and taking down anyone that's trafficking drugs, these terrorists. Mexico has the most.

• 1:23:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Say something.

• 1:23:56Adam Sosnick?

  Mexico has the most.

• 1:23:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you catch that?

• 1:23:58Adam Sosnick?

  You caught it, guys.

• 1:23:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I caught it.

• 1:23:59Adam Sosnick?

  We got it. Bingo. It's almost like you want to live peacefully and safely without psychopaths trying to kill you and all your people. Uh, I'm talking about San Diego here, guys, not, uh, Tijuana. Uh, Mexico, we talked about this a couple of podcasts ago, has the most dangerous cities in the Western hemisphere.

• 1:24:21Adam Sosnick?

  That's six months ago, maybe a year ago before the Mexican election. Do you remember how many politicians were killed just on a weekend? Like fifty politicians killed. Could you imagine if fifty American politicians were killed on a weekend? I'm sure those people will be rooting for it, not me. But listen, it's a dangerous world out there and Trump, he, Trump ain't playing around at this point. Like he's going to take over DC, he should take over Mexico, put a reward for Maduro. The funny thing is, if you know of any information about where Maduro is, we know where he is, guys. He's in Venezuela, he's in his house, doing his thing.

• 1:24:57Patrick Bet-David?

  You find Maduro, you find Maduro. They're, they're kicking it together. Those two are best of buddies right now. Uh, it's interesting because seven years ago, eight, no, six years ago, I almost interviewed Maduro.

• 1:25:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Where I was going out there to interview the guy. And last minute, it was during the season where things got chaotic. And that was when he was going back and forth with Juan, uh, uh, Gaydo or, you know.

• 1:25:21Adam Sosnick?

  Juan Guaido.

• 1:25:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Guaido.

• 1:25:22Adam Sosnick?

  Guaido.

• 1:25:23Patrick Bet-David?

  They were going back and forth. That's what was going on at that time.

• 1:25:26Adam Sosnick?

  Here's what we do, Pat. We lower Maduro with a $50 million podcast fee. We say, listen, buddy, we're gonna pay you $50 million. Yes. Maduro shows up, sí, yo quiero dinero. And then he shows up. Nice. And Pam Bondi films her commercial live on the spot. Perfect. Right there. Brilliant. We break even, but we break the internet. Nice.

• 1:25:48Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, I want to go to a couple of these stories with, uh, you know, talking about, uh, the fire as well as Ashley St. Clair. But a, a major update happened with Mynect yesterday. If you haven't updated the app, a bunch of new updates happen. If you download the app and you go to the bottom right, there's now an events category for Vault Conference that's coming up. But also moving forward, you can officially Mynect anybody in audio. So if you guys are Mynecting Vinnie, Tom, myself, you know, Adam, or Ray Lewis, or Terrence Howard, or Cuomo, or Kasparian, or, you know, whoever, you know, Saladino, Lindy Lee, any one of these guys, DJ Shipley, any one of these guys you Mynect moving forward, you can do it in audio. You have 30 seconds to ask the question, which is exciting.

• 1:26:29Patrick Bet-David?

  So if you have a question or anything you want to say, you can officially Mynect individuals in audio. I wish everybody knew the new updates that's coming up. And we're officially went from 43 countries and 100 plus countries. And very soon it's going to be even a bigger announcement. So hang tight, hang tight. After Vault, we'll be making one announcement that no one's gonna believe, but it's gonna be exciting. Let's continue, let's continue with this. Ashley St. Clair claimed she's broke and facing eviction from, uh, uh, what is that? New York City apartment, okay? And by the way, I don't know if she's trolling or if she's not here. I don't know. She's very capable of trolling conservative influencer Ashley St. Clair, who claimed to be the mother of Elon Musk's 13 child. This is a Realtor.com, but this is a Realtor.com story.

• 1:27:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, uh, Romulus announced on her new podcast that she is broke and facing eviction from her $15,000 on New York City apartment, stating, well, after Europe unplanned career suicide, many questionable life choices. A gap in my LinkedIn profile, can't make some podcasts, starting a podcast, I'm taking a polymarket, 10,000 off. Yeah, can you, can you show this clip, Rob? Can you show this clip? This is her, this is her starting a new podcast. Is that what this is?

• 1:27:37Adam Sosnick?

  I believe so.

• 1:27:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it.

• 1:27:39Speaker 19

  A cautionary tale. Also, I'm getting evicted and Polymarket offered me $10,000 to do an ad read. So with that, the roof over my head has been brought to you by Polymarket. God bless Polymarket, the world's largest prediction market, where you can place bets on who's going to win the midterms, whether Trump will release the Epstein files, or how many posts Elon Musk is going to send in a day.

• 1:28:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You're gonna put that right there, Rob. And this story says her financial struggles followed 2025 claims that she gave birth to Musk's child September 20. Musk responded on March 31st stating, "I have given Ashley $2.5 million in direct payments to date, as well as continued annual payments of $500,000. The Manhattan apartment leased for one year at $180,000 annually. It was part of Musk's support with a source telling Realtor.com, Elon leased the apartment for Ashley and Romulus, but she's been unable to maintain the lifestyle without his continued financial support." Adam, what do you think about this story here?

• 1:28:37Adam Sosnick?

  Well, under legal orders, I'm under a gag order. And it's not so much a legal gag order, it's a ball gag order right now. I don't know much about this. Here's what I know about Ashley, who's a very good friend of mine. Ashley is trolling everybody. She's funny, she's witty, she's cool. She ain't broke. So I think we all just fell for it. I don't know if you guys have different takes on this. I can conclusively tell you with utmost conviction that Elon Musk is the father. So, look, she-

• 1:29:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you were, you were, you were present.

• 1:29:11Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I was there. I saw, I saw it all go down. I am not the father, if that's what you're asking. Oh, the test ruled you out?

• 1:29:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm your father.

• 1:29:21Adam Sosnick?

  Ashley's a nice girl, she's a friend. She also used to work for the Babylon Bee. So if you don't speak sarcasm, and if you're not witty, Tom, this, this is a troll. She has money, and I'm saying she'll be okay.

• 1:29:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Good for her. Yeah, we met her at the Manect event, and she was very friendly. That day we met her at the, what was it? Where was it? Soho House. Which, by the way, I don't know if you heard what happened with Soho House?

• 1:29:43Adam Sosnick?

  Tell me what happened.

• 1:29:44Patrick Bet-David?

  They took it off of, they went private. Did you see this, Rob? If you tap in Soho House- 2.2 billion, Ashton Kutcher is involved in this deal, I think. Uh, let's see what that is. Soho House is being sold for 2.7 billion dollars and Ashton Kutcher is one of the buyers.

• 1:29:58Adam Sosnick?

  Wow.

• 1:29:58Patrick Bet-David?

  They're going private in a multi-billion dollar deal that they're doing. So, good for them. Soho House going a very different direction. Who knows? I'm sure they got some plans of what they want to do with it at Soho House, but that's where we uh, did our annual Manek party, which took place on the rooftop.

• 1:30:14Adam Sosnick?

  Why'd you want to talk about this story, Pat?

• 1:30:16Patrick Bet-David?

  This story? No, this story was brought up by our friend Rob Garguello.

• 1:30:21Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:30:22Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, it's

• 1:30:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you have a, because it says to me Adam wanted to talk about it. The letter's right next to it.

• 1:30:28Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, really?

• 1:30:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny.

• 1:30:29Speaker 04

  So, well, Adam, well, since you know, and by the way, we met her, she's freaking out. She's really, really cool with me. But like, and I remember, so was the, was the returning the Tesla a troll too? Like when she's like, I mean, just think about, I get it. If you're trolling, you're trying to do the poly market thing for, for, for clicks. Okay, I get it. But just like, what, what do you do? Like, is your existence now just gonna be?

• 1:30:50Adam Sosnick?

  You know what? Let's call her right now.

• 1:30:51Speaker 04

  I'm the baby mama. I'm the baby mama of Donald Trump, of Elon Musk. Call her, call her on speaker. I want to know, like, what are you doing? Like, what are you doing right now?

• 1:30:59Adam Sosnick?

  That would be inappropriate.

• 1:31:00Speaker 04

  You're rich as hell.

• 1:31:00Adam Sosnick?

  Right here.

• 1:31:01Speaker 04

  You're, dude, 2.5 million dollars upfront, you should be set for life.

• 1:31:05Adam Sosnick?

  For 2.5 million dollars and 15 million dollars, you can impregnate and me, Elon Musk.

• 1:31:10Speaker 04

  Bro, give me the kid. Give me the kid. I'll take two of them.

• 1:31:13Adam Sosnick?

  Vinny and I will chest feed your kid, Elon Musk.

• 1:31:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you there? What are you wearing, baby? Okay, so let's, let's go to the next story is what we're gonna go to. We're gonna, we're gonna skip the story here because it upset Adam. We don't want to upset him.

• 1:31:24Speaker 04

  No, I'm the only one actually commented. I commented.

• 1:31:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:31:27Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, what else? What else you guys got? I'm not running from it.

• 1:31:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so let's go, and by the way, guys, Rob, why, why did this story even get added? How did this story get added? Do you remember?

• 1:31:37Speaker 11

  I, I, I don't remember, to be honest with you. I think Adam requested it.

• 1:31:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, okay, so that's what I'm saying. That's the chance.

• 1:31:42Speaker 11

  I requested it.

• 1:31:43Patrick Bet-David?

  The story is here. I'm given the instruction. I follow what the

• 1:31:46Speaker 04

  I'm trolling myself.

• 1:31:47Adam Sosnick?

  You just told the big man, tell you to do that.

• 1:31:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Then, listen, let's just change the story to something

• 1:31:52Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, let's keep talking.

• 1:31:53Speaker 11

  Something lighter.

• 1:31:54Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna go to something different.

• 1:31:55Adam Sosnick?

  Let's go something different.

• 1:31:56Patrick Bet-David?

  After this story.

• 1:31:57Adam Sosnick?

  Elon's girlfriend having trouble with housing.

• 1:31:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Let Christian revival, believing God triples amongst 18 to 24 year old.

• 1:32:07Adam Sosnick?

  Amen.

• 1:32:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, and this is in Britain, by the way. So let's go to page 14 and see what these guys are doing in the UK because we had some issues with the UK this past week. Uh, apparently they're not fans of Monet in the UK. And the Times wrote a story about this, but uh, let me go to the story here for you guys. Uh, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta. Here we go. You've got tracker and religious belief showed the number of 18 to 24 year olds in Britain. Professing belief in God rose from 16% in August of 2021 to 45% and wholly 181% increase with Lancastrian priest, Father Damien Feeney stating the grown number of young people interested in faith.

• 1:32:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Comes from a need for structure, shape and routine in their life and a desire for stability at a time. When otherwise life can seem destabilized. A 56% increase in monthly churches attendance from 3.7 million to 5.8 million between 2018 and 2024. Was driven by younger men from one in 25 to one in five when women from 3% to 12%. The 18 to 24 age group is now the second most likely to attend church. Uh, um. Monthly Feeney noted the desire for structure and order previously mentioned has led to a renewal of interest in traditional uh, uh, uh, worship among young adults. The use of beauty and language, color, music, drama and fairly

• 1:33:29Patrick Bet-David?

  classic ways has grown an appeal belief amongst 25 to 49 years increased 21%. In 2021 to 33%. So let's see who wanted to talk about this story. Adam, I'm coming to you. What thought, what do you have uh, thoughts on this story?

• 1:33:41Adam Sosnick?

  Well, as the only uh, true Christian on the panel here, the original OG Jew in the house. Um, I think it's great to see Christianity making a comeback, especially in the UK. I think if we learned anything like if in America right now, you see that it's cool now to be conservative. It's cool, it's counterculture to be like, yeah, I know the difference between a man and a woman. So I think it's what's happening in the UK is they've gone so woke, they've gone so leftist, they've gone so secular that young people, Gen Z are the ones that are leading this charge, are basically saying, no, no, no, no, no, all this woke, government-infused nonsense, I'm done with this, and returning back to churches, and I think that's a great thing. I think there's another element to this because there's religion and there's culture.

• 1:34:25Adam Sosnick?

  I think religion is one component. I think what's happening in the UK is they're seeing their culture change. What's the number one baby name in the UK?

• 1:34:33Speaker 04

  Muhammad.

• 1:34:34Adam Sosnick?

  It's not James, it's not Henry, it's Muhammad. And I think there's a lot of Brits who are like, alright, we're tolerant, we're nice, we'll do, we'll be appeasing to you, and there's a lot of people who are starting to say, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, not on my watch. And I see simmerings, I see on the internet, not that the internet is the tell-all, be-all, especially Twitter, but I see this urge, this urge for a holy war, and that's where it's gonna happen first, right in the UK. God bless.

• 1:35:05Speaker 04

  And I'm, and I know Tom's gonna, Tom's gonna go right after me, but, I mean, I am so, what great news. I know we always talk about this in politics and Newsom and the end of the world. Thank God that people are going to God and Christianity, I am, that makes me so happy because, listen, it's undeniable, okay? Go do the research, the book that you told me to read, A Case for Christ by Lee Strobel. Guys, the guy was an atheist and was like, I'm gonna prove that Jesus wasn't here and he wasn't who he says is, what was he, who he says he was. Guess what? He made a case for Jesus Christ. He was here, whether you believe what he was, if he was a magician or whatever, whatever you want to believe, he was here, he's the Savior. I think it's, I think it's awesome that it's happening. And it's not just happening there, it's happening here in the United States, okay?

• 1:35:48Speaker 04

  And Louis CK had a really funny joke once, he said, well, all the time, I think he's one of the best ever. He said, um, you know what religion won? Christianity. He goes, what year is it?

• 1:35:59Speaker 04

  2020, it was 2022, it was like right now, it's 2025, right? Since when? We all keep the date, everybody, Muslim, Buddhist, of when Jesus Christ died, okay? And I think it just proves how real, there's a battle right now, bro, with evil. Put some, was it Ephesians, chapter 6, verse 12? "For we wrestle not with flesh and blood, but principalities against powers and rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Guys, the, the table is set, okay? And which side are you, where are you going? And I think that the darker it gets, the brighter truth stands out. And I'm telling you guys, guys, from personal experience, Assyrians were, you know, Assyrians and Armenians like to have a battle of who were the first Christians. There is something going on in the world, and I'm telling you, the better my life has

• 1:36:43Speaker 04

  gotten, the more truth, I'm telling you, Adam, it's going to God and going to Jesus Christ, because I'm telling you right now, especially with all this stuff that we talk about Epstein and this and that, the only accountability factor is gonna be God, period. That makes me sleep well at night, because I go, if it doesn't happen here, he's gonna hold everybody accountable.

• 1:37:00Adam Sosnick?

  Are you, are you saying that Assyrians and Armenians were the battle for who the first Christian was?

• 1:37:05Speaker 04

  First Christian, I think Armenians actually have a good-

• 1:37:06Adam Sosnick?

  Is this what, is this your jihad, Pat? Your struggle, your internal struggle between Assyrian and Armenian? Who was the first Christian?

• 1:37:13Speaker 04

  It might have been, I think it might have been.

• 1:37:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's what I know for a fact, I know for a fact, one of my bloodlines was-

• 1:37:18Speaker 04

  That's, so he's good!

• 1:37:19Patrick Bet-David?

  For me, I'm good, Armenian and Assyrian. But let me, let me go to this, let me, let me give some thoughts on this, and then we can get to the next story. Uh, you know, we'll sit here, and we'll banter, and we'll say all our stuff, and some of it is fun, and some of it is appropriate, and some of it is inappropriate. Sometimes, we get emotional, and I can't believe this, and I can't believe that, and sometime we drop the F-bomb too many times, and someone's gotta call you out and say, "Hey, get your act together, and don't do this, I don't like it, kids are listening." And by the way, sometimes, we, we, we say things to people, and we take personal shots, which I don't like, because I wanna talk to a lot of these guys. Like, as much as I don't agree with Newsom and politics, I wanna sit down and have a conversation with them. I have nothing personal against the guy, he does what he does, he's got a family, he's got kids, he wants to be a good father to his kids, there's nobody that's not trying to do their best in their lives, for the most part.

• 1:38:03Patrick Bet-David?

  The, the, the benefit of God entering my life, and me becoming a Christian, the, the, the biggest part of it was, that you had to learn forgiveness.

• 1:38:17Patrick Bet-David?

  And you had to learn that as much as you try to judge everybody else, hey, brother, you have a lot of stuff and a lot of things you did wrong, that you screwed up with, that we have to get on our knees. The other day, I'm with the boys, Tico and Dylan, and I said, guys, whatever you do, pray a little bit longer tonight. And I get on my knees, and they're sitting there with me, something happened, Daddy? There's something. I said, just pray a little longer today. Just pray a little longer today. Talk to God. And I sat down and I'm having the conversations. I wouldn't be who I am today without God in my life. I've said this so many times, and I'm so comfortable saying it, the fact that I'm a nobody without Him, just a regular guy. I'm sitting there the other day at the cigar lounge

• 1:39:00Patrick Bet-David?

  with one of our founding members, who's saying stuff to me about, well, let me tell you, what about God this, and what about God that, and what about God this? I said, listen, bro, when I think about God, I don't think about the judge pastor that you're going to hell, God. I look at it in a completely different way. You know, I know I desperately need God. He changed my life. My life doesn't make sense. I can't believe I got lucky enough to get a green card to come to America legally. I can't believe I met a Jennifer Hudman, that's now my wife, that gave me four kids, who are my four, five favorite human beings

• 1:39:41Patrick Bet-David?

  in the world, when I'm around them. I cannot believe somehow I got lucky enough to get a job at Morgan Stanley Dean Witter, after the Army, not having a four-year or a two-year degree, and a Dave Kirby, who I keep talking about. I haven't seen this guy since 2002. Dave Kirby gave this guy, a regular guy, a job at Morgan Stanley Dean Witter, who didn't have a four-year or a two-year degree, when I was going up against another girl named Somaz Rashidi, who was brilliant, got a 1560 on her SATs, ran a nightclub in Berkeley, did a four-year program in three and a half years, sharp as hell. It was so great sitting next to Somaz, because she was such a, you knew she was gonna do something big in her life. You just knew it. And we sat there at the same cubicle, and going back

• 1:40:23Patrick Bet-David?

  and forth, and somehow I got a 78% on my Series 7, the first time I took it, and I stayed in the financial industry, then went into insurance industry, and then this happened. Then a Life Now podcast, you guys listening to us? What? Vault Conference, nearly 10,000 people to come with their husband, wife and kids and 21-year-old guy goes and watches Tony Robbins at, you know, what do you call it? At San Diego Convention Center? At Long Beach Convention Center and now he's doing two hours. We're gonna have some massive announcements we're making at the vault. This guy? This regular guy? You telling me I deserve this? I don't know about that. So somehow, some way, that favor changed this guy's life. He made me, as much as this doesn't make sense to you, to the people who know me,

• 1:41:06Patrick Bet-David?

  my dad would know this, he made me softer. My heart, deep down inside, there is rage in here. There is so much rage in this. And he just said, "Hey, man, these things are not on you. I got this. You go do all the other stuff." It's like, "All right, I got it." So I'm so glad younger folks, 18 to 24, are getting exposed to this and they're finding God, they're finding church. I'm so happy that this is taking place and they're going through it. And it's a beautiful thing. It's a life, who said this? Somebody said this, I think it was Johnny Cash. "Being a Christian is one of the hardest things to do," or something like that. Rob, can you pull up what Johnny Cash said about being a Christian?

• 1:41:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Johnny Cash, Christian, Johnny Cash, Christian, he said something, quotes, quotes, if you can just type it, he said something about being a Christian. "Being a Christian isn't for sissies." That's what he said. "It takes a real man to live for God a lot more than to live for the devil." It is hard. Of course. It is hard, guys, to do this. So anyways, life changing. Happy for those guys in UK and I'm happy for all the other guys in America that are doing the same thing as well. Let's go to the next story here. Next story I want to get into is, I'm debating between a couple of these things to get into or no. Okay, let's go into this one. I like what Marcus Lamonde said on this one here.

• 1:42:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Pollard just texted saying Vinny has become a preacher. Amen. You're becoming the preacher. Awesome. Okay, so major retailer says no to California pulls zero punches outlining economic reality. All right, let's see what this means. Uh, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, Newsom's over there. Okay, so first of all, Newsom, uh, uh, Bed Bath & Beyond comes out and says they're not going to be expanding in the state of California. Rob, I think this is the post video, right? This is, no, this is the pre. This is the announcement. Play the pre. Fantastic. Thank you for doing that. Go ahead. Watch this, folks.

• 1:43:03Speaker 20

  Decision to not open in the state of California. And while it was a big place for business in the past for Bed Bath & Beyond, it's just too cost prohibitive. At some point, some business needs to take a stand and remind the state of California that while they keep reminding us that they're the fourth largest economy in the world.

• 1:43:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Thank you.

• 1:43:20Speaker 20

  That's going to dissipate over time.

• 1:43:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Thank you. And by the way, you know what Newsom says? I thought Bed Bath, Bed Bath & Beyond filed bankruptcy. Oh, there's another one by him, but let me read this as well. After their bankruptcy enclosure of every store, like most Americans, we thought Bed Bath & Beyond no longer existed. We wish them well in their efforts to become relevant again as they tried to open a second store. Now, he was a little bit more direct than that. So Marcus Lamonas, when you think about him, he had a show. What was it called? The Profit or something? I think it was called The Profit. The Profit. It was an incredible show. He's very good at what he does. On CNBC. Very fair. You know, we had an exchange once on X and then I don't know what happened afterwards, but he actually has a lot of good things to say here. Rob, if you want to play this clip on him reacting to what Newsom said to him, go forward.

• 1:44:05Speaker 20

  Well, I think the thing that was really surprising to me is that I tried to articulate in a non-aggressive way exactly why our company wasn't going to reinvest capital in California. And what I found out this afternoon is that Governor Newsom has enough time to respond to a tweet as opposed to a private DM or having somebody reach out to remind everybody in America that in 2023, before we bought the intellectual property, that the company went out of business. We all know that Bed Bath went out of business a few years ago. Now we're trying to make a comeback and I would think that a governor would want to attract investment, attract, uh, Capital into the state. In fact, he did the opposite. He rejected it. It's a very simple model for me. As a capitalist myself, I want to do business in all 50 states,

• 1:44:49Speaker 20

  and I want to do business with all people of all political parties. That's part of being a capitalist. But what I don't want to do is put my shareholders, my employees and myself in a situation where we're regulated to a zero. And we don't want to spend $100 million coming into California and then find out that the state's going to take it all and waste it all.

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• 1:46:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Sounds reasonable. Sounds fair. Sounds like common sense. Tom, your thoughts?

• 1:46:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, it is common sense and it is reasonable. And he was being fair about it. He was saying, you know, words talk, numbers scream. The regulatory environment and these taxes and this and this and this is making it tough for us to make a comeback. And I don't think Gavin Newsom was 100% briefed on this. Because if he was fully briefed. After their bankruptcy and closure of their store, we thought they no longer existed. You know, I don't know if he understands that this is a comeback. I don't know if he understands that this is jobs to come back. Because if I was a governor, you know, why would I say something like that unless maybe I just

• 1:46:51Tom Ellsworth?

  take my economy for granted, or I really don't care, or I've just got other motives and other things that I'm planning. I hope Marcus and them, who are taking the intellectual property and what he means by that, he's taking their brand and he's trying to make it come back and to do so in a way that would make it a profitable enterprise. And he's been very reasonable about it. And the comment by the governor, I just don't think that's a good comment. Maybe it's coming from, you know, that group of social media people that don't look like they're operators and run businesses. I'm not going to pick on what they look like. I'm just saying, are they operators? Do they run businesses? Oh, this guy said something about California. We have to punch back. That's what it kind of feels like.

• 1:47:36Tom Ellsworth?

  And so Gavin Newsom dutifully goes out and punches back when he should be lending a hand up. And you know who lends hands up? Guys like Greg Abbott, guys like Ron DeSantis. They're like, really? You want to make a comeback and get jobs here? How can we work together on this? How can I get Jimmy Petronas, the CFO, to talk to you and help you here in the state of Florida? How do I get Economic Development Commission to maybe give you a hand? And where are you going to put your warehouses? Where are you going to put jobs? You know, if you looked at some of our areas that have got plenty of people and where you could put warehouses in place to help you out, what do we want to do together? Instead, this is, oh, man, I thought you died. That just, to me, seems so kind of tinier and def.

• 1:48:18Speaker 04

  And it's those people, Tom, it's not like we just showed, like, that's not even Gavin Newsom, it's that team of people having that freaking attitude and like, think about it.

• 1:48:25Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm crediting that. I'm saying maybe he just reposted what they did.

• 1:48:28Patrick Bet-David?

  You're going to a good place. Please keep going with your savings.

• 1:48:30Speaker 04

  So what I'm saying is, that's not you. And you nailed it when you're like, he's like, when you guys are both like, he's wishy-washy chameleon. Now you hire this PR team, whatever the hell they're called, to have this attitude of like this, you're going against the system. You're not going against Trump. This is a guy that has a freaking company, bro. Bed Bath & Beyond, I would go there almost every other week for buying stuff from my freaking apartment in LA. And you're number one in unemployment. Now you're losing another freaking company? People are leaving your state. Companies now are leaving your state. And it's like, what? What are you doing? Can anybody name one thing that's honestly, and I'm being dead serious? What's one positive thing that the governor is doing to California? Anybody? Bueller?

• 1:49:12Speaker 04

  Anybody? Nothing is going right. Nothing is going right. And you mean to tell me this guy is the front runner for the president of the Democratic Party? But guys, when I'm, and I'm not being that guy.

• 1:49:24Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think he's there yet, but.

• 1:49:25Speaker 04

  No, Tom, okay, if you guys had to pick right now, right now, who the Democratic Party, besides you saying JB Pritzker? It's JB and who?

• 1:49:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Let me tell you, Gavin Newsom's gonna be on stage with all the rest starting the primaries, but JB Pritzker is the one that's got the support of the machine. And so you always gotta wait. Remember you have all this buzz, all these things. Mike Huckabee all of a sudden was knighted that he was gonna be the candidate. And then one state later, one election later, it's like, oh, well, maybe in your zone you are. I wanna see, I wanna see Gavin Newsom in a primary that is somewhere east of Reno.

• 1:49:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:49:57Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think he's gonna play very well there.

• 1:49:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's how this works. Let me tell you how this works. You know,

• 1:50:04Patrick Bet-David?

  people see a guy and they try to be like him. There's only one guy that was able to be like Mike. His name was Kobe Bryant. He's no longer with us. Okay? He was fantastic to watch. Everybody else tried to be like Mike. There was only one guy that was like Mike. Okay? You know, when you think about Rodman, there was only one Rodman. A lot of people tried to be a Rodman. But there's literally only one Rodman. Rodman would average two points a game and 19 rebounds a game. He really didn't like to score. It's only one Rodman. He was weird, bless you. Just a different type of guy. Right? You know, there's only one Trump. There's gonna be a lot of people that are gonna try to be Trump's Trump. Trust me, there's a lot of guys that are trying to be that guy. But, you know, the difference is, he's actually trying to broker deals.

• 1:50:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And he understands black people. He understands business owners. He understands what people who are pro-Israel and what people are anti-Israel. He understands both of their arguments and say, I don't know why. I get it, hey, he's starting to be a little bit too much. Why are they doing this? He understands, but he tries to understand both sides. And then he pushes his agenda. I'm not telling you he's gonna support you, but he at least sits there and tries to understand. You talk to small business owners like you're above business owners, Gavin. You're not above business owners. You, you, you talk to business owners as if they need you. They don't need you. You, you, you need voters.

• 1:51:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Voters don't need you. See, see for us, we run a business. Last night, uh, we had seven people that flew in in a private jet. They flew in here, business, walk through, they did their meeting, they left. And then last night on the way home, I stopped by the cigar lounge and I see them outside. They're doing a video and I just pull up. And like, oh shoot, the guy, wait, what? We're not, oh my God. And I'm talking to them, right? I'm just having a conversation with them. And he says, you know what? We've been to a lot of businesses. Everybody here at ValueTainment treats us royally. Everybody. I said, you know what's funny when you say that? So do you know why? I said, because since I was 24, 25 years old, I demanded good treatment of me. I wanted it, but I was a nobody. And so to get that kind of treatment, guess what you gotta do?

• 1:52:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to work your ass off to be somebody to get that kind of treatment. You gotta pay for it. Cause high quality service costs money. You wanna go to Ritz? High quality service. You wanna go to Motel 6? 49 bucks a night. Pick and choose. You ain't getting no service at Motel 6. You want high service? Go to a three Michelin star restaurant. You should demand high service. Go to Le Louis. Go to some of these big restaurants. You go to McDonald's expecting a five star service? You're a fool. Now, In-N-Out figured out a way how to do it. Chick-fil-A figured out how to do it. They did very well. Yesterday, one of our clients who runs a Chick-fil-A, he's an owner of Chick-fil-A, been with the organization 15 years, but he's been an owner for about a year and a half. One Chick-fil-A restaurant of his, the 16 million dollars a year.

• 1:52:58Adam Sosnick?

  16?

• 1:52:59Patrick Bet-David?

  One restaurant, the 16 million dollars a year, right?

• 1:53:02Adam Sosnick?

  Damn.

• 1:53:02Patrick Bet-David?

  But it's what? Treatment. Newsom doesn't treat business owners right. If I ever had the itch of, like, there's a part of me that's like, just drop the whole thing and go for, run for govern in California. Zero chance I'm doing it. So don't minac me. I'd save your money. Zero chance I'm doing it. But if I ever did, and I wanted to go back, just the frickin' itch that I got to go and say, here's what we're gonna be doing. Dude, we would bring so many businesses back with a handful of policies. We would bring so many businesses back with a handful of policies. But unfortunately, this guy's got no appreciation for small business owners. Adam?

• 1:53:38Adam Sosnick?

  I fully agree with you. I mean, this is why America is so sick of politicians. This is why everyone you talk to is like, I just want a business owner. I want a businessman in the Oval Office. I want someone who actually has done something before to lead this country, or to lead my state, or to lead my community here, not just some politician. Because in business, we all know that if your product sucks, you go out of business. If your policies suck, like Gavin Newsom, you'll get reelected. No problem. The difference is in business, and I learned this being around ValueTainment and BDC every single day, is a business owner will put their own money on the line, and if it doesn't work, they're out of business. A politician will take your money and tax your money. No problem. It's not their money.

• 1:54:21Adam Sosnick?

  We have 37 trillion dollars in debt. And we're talking about nonsense every day. I actually totally respect Marjorie Taylor Greene, yes, MTG. She went on Megyn Kelly the other day, and I totally understood what she was coming from. Because she's like, from a business perspective, stop spending all this money on other things that don't focus on the American people. I was like, I agree. I totally agree. In business, it comes down to results. In politics, it just comes down to broken promises. And that's what's going on here. By the way, Marcus Lamont, a little fun fact. He's gonna be a billionaire if he's not a billionaire already. I had the opportunity to speak with him on stage. A couple of years ago, my friend Melitta was putting on an event here in Miami, Epic Talks. He was the keynote speaker and I spoke right before him and I gave a speech about

• 1:55:05Adam Sosnick?

  the key to success is what I call the three Rs. Relationships, reputation, and revenue. Relationships matter, obviously, whether it's relationships, friendships, partnerships. Reputation, your reputation precedes you. Before you walk in the door, your reputation is what it is. And at the end of the day, revenue, if you're not making money, what's the point of doing this? He gets up there, he goes, "Yeah, nice speech, that's great." And gives an hour's speech about the importance of relationships. If you've ever watched his show, The Profit, Marco Simon, a shout out to you. He's getting his hands dirty. He's in there, he's talking about people. He's giving people hugs. Relationships, relationships, relationships. This guy would be a great politician. He's like the, uh, the anti Gavin Newsom. Cause he's actually done it before.

• 1:55:50Adam Sosnick?

  So, respect to him.

• 1:55:51Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to, uh, let's do one or two stories here and wrap up, uh, in eight minutes. I'm trying to see which one do we want. You know what story I want to show? Rob, I don't know if we can show this video or not. Well, what happened with Kentucky judge? The guy that got gunned down. We probably can't show that clip, right?

• 1:56:08Adam Sosnick?

  I think they stopped at PBD. Every single time something happens, they pause it. So, you're not gonna see anything graphic. You don't see, they don't show anything graphic.

• 1:56:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, well, guys, I'm gonna show you this. And I just want to, I really want to show this because of what people do when they use their power in this way. Um, so, but I'm giving you in a way to brace for impact. Kids, give you five seconds. Don't, don't, don't move the clip, yeah. Give you five seconds. Kids don't need to watch this clip here. Adults only, and I'm giving you the warning in advance. Here's a judge in Kentucky, okay?

• 1:56:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Who was gunned down by sheriff. What? By a sheriff. Okay? Allegedly ran sex rings in his chambers. What?

• 1:56:54Speaker 04

  Yup.

• 1:56:55Patrick Bet-David?

  True story? A judge? A judge. Yes. So, Rob, can you do me a favor? Can you separate the two clips, right? Find the lady above first. Then we'll show what the ju- what the sheriff did to him, okay? Oh, oh, you know, yeah, yeah, if you can do that. Because I want to show exactly what she said for- the clip is out there. Ty Adams alleged on News Nation, uh, Banfield, that District Judge Kevin Mullins, shot by Sheriff Sean "Mickey" Steins in his Letcher County chambers on September 8, 2024, ran a sex-for-favor scheme stating, "We would do sex parties and perform shows and have sex with them for money, things like that." What? Watch this interview and just see what this judge was doing. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:57:38Speaker 21

  You're saying it like it's so normal, but I just want to make sure.

• 1:57:40Speaker 22

  Yeah.

• 1:57:40Speaker 21

  So, the judge would have sex with inmates from the jail?

• 1:57:44Speaker 22

  Yes.

• 1:57:44Speaker 21

  And you saw it?

• 1:57:45Speaker 22

  Yes. I was part of it. I was one of them. Uh, not just from being in jail, like coming in off the street and seeing them. Yeah.

• 1:57:55Speaker 21

  How did they keep it a secret?

• 1:57:57Speaker 22

  It wasn't a secret.

• 1:58:00Speaker 22

  Wasn't a secret.

• 1:58:03Speaker 21

  Why did you feel like you had to have sex with the judge?

• 1:58:06Speaker 22

  Because he's the one with the power. He holds my entire life in his hands. He's the one that makes the decisions over whether I get to keep my children or not. He's the one that makes the decisions on whether I go to jail.

• 1:58:17Speaker 21

  Did anything ever happen to you in the jail?

• 1:58:19Speaker 22

  Uh, yeah, all sorts of things.

• 1:58:20Speaker 21

  I mean, because you talk about having sex with the judge, but that was mostly when you were out, right? Trying to avoid.

• 1:58:24Speaker 22

  Yeah.

• 1:58:24Speaker 21

  Did the judge ever say, "You have to do this, or if you do this..."

• 1:58:29Speaker 22

  "You come, you come see me three times and we'll take care of this." If it's a ticket or something, you know, or you get some minor charge, some petty charge. Come visit me a few times, we'll, we'll take care of it.

• 1:58:41Speaker 21

  He would say that?

• 1:58:41Speaker 22

  Mm-hmm. Absolutely. Yeah.

• 1:58:45Speaker 21

  And how many women do you think were also doing this?

• 1:58:49Speaker 22

  Total over the years, hundreds.

• 1:58:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Hundreds. Hundreds? Hundreds.

• 1:58:53Speaker 22

  Yeah.

• 1:58:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Hundreds.

• 1:58:55Speaker 22

  And not just for the women who had charges. Like, if you're a man or somebody, your child is in there, then you could go see him for that, too.

• 1:59:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, you saw that, okay? Then, this is what happens. Now you can go back to the clip on the bottom, and show what happens. Watch this, folks. So that's the sheriff.

• 1:59:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, just to let them know.

• 1:59:15Patrick Bet-David?

  The judge is sitting there to the left. Once again, kids, they're not watching this. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:59:20Speaker 21

  It's so normal, but I just want to make sure. So the judge would have sex with inmates from the jail?

• 1:59:25Speaker 04

  So boom, you shoot him once, you're not gonna see it. He's down.

• 1:59:29Speaker 22

  I was one of them.

• 1:59:30Speaker 04

  And then the sheriff.

• 1:59:31Speaker 22

  Not just from being in jail, but coming in off the street and seeing them.

• 1:59:34Speaker 04

  You can't see it, won't they pause?

• 1:59:37Speaker 21

  How did they keep it a secret?

• 1:59:38Patrick Bet-David?

  And then he's about to leave.

• 1:59:39Speaker 22

  It wasn't a secret.

• 1:59:40Patrick Bet-David?

  While he's about to leave.

• 1:59:42Speaker 04

  And again, he wants to go by, he makes sure he kills him.

• 1:59:45Speaker 21

  Why did you feel like you had...

• 1:59:46Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. So, yeah, that's a very strange story. Vinny, your thoughts on the story here?

• 1:59:51Speaker 04

  And think about this. I mean, it's taken into your own hands. I mean, in that moment, the heat of passion, I mean, unless it was somebody that was directly involved.

• 1:59:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Do we know why the sheriff did that? Tom, you wanted to talk about the story. Do we know why the sheriff did that?

• 2:00:05Tom Ellsworth?

  It appears that the sheriff had like a nervous breakdown, and took the law into his own hands, and just decided, this is what I'm gonna do. Because that was, if you take a look at that, he's in there, he's standing there, he looks like calm, like rational, and then he just executes him. Do you see how steady he was? That was just like a straight execution. And the story coming out leads you to believe, it's like, you know, there's a trial that happened in Europe a long time ago, where a woman walked in and executed the guy that was on trial, who was on the stand, and she just walked in, pulled it out, leveled up,

• 2:00:49Tom Ellsworth?

  and then fired three shots, killed him. You have the story of the man whose son had been abused, and he knew that the perpetrator was gonna be, go through the airport with the police escort, and he acted like he was on a payphone at the airport, and as the guy walked by, he... Turned, shot him, executed him, and then dropped the gun and raised his hands. And you heard the cops saying, "No, Gary, no, not this way, not this way." Because they knew it was the father. When I think of those and I see this, it just appears that this sheriff, apparently, they said he had like a nervous breakdown, but he also said, "I'm sick of this and I'm taking care of it."

• 2:01:34Tom Ellsworth?

  And that's what appears that that has happened here. And this is not the way to do it. This is not the way to to get justice. But if if that woman is right, and you're talking hundreds of people, then this is like walking tall, where the mob ran the the county.

• 2:01:53Patrick Bet-David?

  The Rock.

• 2:01:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Until, right? Until Sheriff Buford Pusser took the, but he did it the right way, remember? He did it the right way to get justice and the mob ultimately killed him for it.

• 2:02:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, they call this extortion, you know, and there's multiple cases. Another one is another individual, Sabrina Atkins, referenced videotape showing sexual activities in the judge's chamber involving Mullins. These recordings emerged from a from an unrelated 2022 investigation into a deputy sheriff found guilty of sex crimes. So when they asked what the defense is, the the motive was unclear motives. Authorities have not found a clear motive tied to the alleged sex scandal and possibility remains under investigation. Defense is emotional disturbance and potential insanity, please. Stein's defense defense has indicated the shooting was not premeditated, premeditated, framing it as crime committed in the heat of passion due to extreme emotional disturbance.

• 2:02:49Patrick Bet-David?

  They have even signaled intent to use an insanity defense in some filings. So as of August 2025, as of right now, Stein, the shooter, the sheriff, is still in jail without bond. Defense lawyers have requested a $50,000 cash or property bond, arguing he poses no flight risk, where prosecutors oppose citing Kentucky law that bars bail for capital offense charge. Adam?

• 2:03:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, well, there's two crazy stories happening right here. Number one, we're getting a little too comfortable with this vigilante justice thing that's going on here. Obviously, the biggest story that we know about that was the whole Luigi Mangione thing, just gunning down the CEO of United Healthcare just because he felt some type of way. Completely unacceptable. Now we have this sheriff in Kentucky.

• 2:03:40Adam Sosnick?

  What not premeditated, just showed up, got in an argument and just boom, just V for vendetta style executes this guy? Absolutely disgusting, uncalled for. This should not happen in America. We're not living in the Wild West. This ain't Tombstone. This ain't Wyatt Earp. Relax with all that. At the same time, if the inmates are running the asylum, so to speak, and the judge is running a whorehouse, it would seem in the judge's chambers, how has not this not been dealt with prior to whatever happened here? Because if the sheriff knows about it, I would assume, that people doing interviews about this allegedly, how did this not make it into the news, into the

• 2:04:23Adam Sosnick?

  zeitgeist of the popular culture in Kentucky? Something's very weird about this story. I don't even know if we have all the facts. I'm just putting allegedly all over this story right here, but it's disgusting. You have right now on the very surface, a judge murdered in his chambers by a vigilante sheriff.

• 2:04:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, it's so fricking weird, isn't it? How does a guy in West Palm Beach, Florida, you know, get off on a crime and continue for 13 more years? God, how weird would that be?

• 2:04:50Speaker 04

  Tom, I love that you went there because fantastic point. And Adam, I 1,000% do not agree to like him taking it in his own hands. No, I don't like that's it wasn't like somebody in his

• 2:05:01Tom Ellsworth?

  We have a justice system, not a joint.

• 2:05:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, we have. Well, I sometimes call it the injustice system. But Tom, at the same point, I don't agree with it. But, but Adam, when you're doing evil stuff, and we just talked about God, we just went on the pad, did a good talk about God just freaking five minutes ago. When you get away from God and you're taking advantage of women, yet when you're in that dark world, that's the type of stuff that happens because that's evil coming right back at you. I don't agree with it, but that's the world that you're playing in. Okay. And this, mind you, this is abuse of power from a low.

• 2:05:28Tom Ellsworth?

  You're saying it's karma.

• 2:05:29Speaker 04

  I don't believe in karma. I believe in Adam. It's like, if you hang out with pimps, you know what I mean? Like people see you, what are they going to assume that you are? That you're a pimp? When you hang it, when you're doing this type of stuff, bro, that energy is coming around you. And, and, and my point being that this guy's a low level judge. Okay. And he got careless. He's drunk with this power. He's having sex with all these girls and I'm going to give you this. I'll keep you out of jail. I let you see your kids. This is one instance. Look at our, how many judges are in the country? Just this past eight years, what have we seen that these corrupt judges? That go after a freaking ex-president? They don't give a damn. And Tom made a great point. Look at the justice system with what happened with Epstein and, and, and getting, let him get off and having, giving him a, a sentence where he's in a jail that the doors open, he could leave and go in.

• 2:06:14Speaker 04

  Imagine that level. Imagine when we talk about, this, this is a careless judge. What happens when it's high level ranking ex-presidents? The, the Clintons, the this, the that, bro, they're protected beyond belief. And if, and if something leaks and the main guy behind it gets a little bit too loud or gets arrested? He gets suicided in jail. So it's corruption at the highest level. This guy was a low level guy. It's, it's messed up, but it happens.

• 2:06:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, it's, it's, you, you, there's certain people, and this is what I said. My, my thing with Epstein is if that happened to someone's daughter, it takes me back to Gerard Butler's one movie that was payback, that he seeked revenge. I don't remember the movie's name. It could have been payback. There was another movie that Mel Gibson did that I think was called, uh, Ransom, right? Where his kid starts peeing right at one scene with that Christian act, yeah. So, so when you see this kind of stuff that happens, you know, some people are gonna take you to certain levels. If you do something to their daughters or their kids, some people are capable of doing stuff like that. No, is, does it make it right or wrong? No, but some people are capable. There was a UFC fighter a couple of years ago that somebody was doing something to one of his kids. You know what I'm talking about?

• 2:07:23Speaker 04

  Nephew or his niece?

• 2:07:23Patrick Bet-David?

  To his nephew and he just came back and it went to jail.

• 2:07:26Speaker 04

  The Latino, the Mexican fighter, Ortiz? Kane or something like that?

• 2:07:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Kane, Kane.

• 2:07:31Speaker 04

  Kane Lopez Velazquez?

• 2:07:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Velazquez.

• 2:07:33Speaker 04

  Going through every Mexican name.

• 2:07:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Kane Velazquez is the one that went to, uh, extreme measures to go fight and defend his family.

• 2:07:42Speaker 04

  I think he shot at the guy, right, Pat?

• 2:07:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it was, it was February 20th, the man who Velazquez already intended to shoot had been arrested prior to shooting the allegedly committing child sexual abuse on Velazquez's son out of daycare owned by, you know, family was later released from custody on a personal recognizable bond. So this is the part, every once in a while in life, Mike Tyson said something, okay? You can, you can act as hard as you want until you get punched in the face. Every once in a while, you meet someone that. Handles vengeance in a different way. Okay, they say leave it up to God. You know, uh, uh, uh. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. There was a story of a teacher who's an atheist gets up and says, "Prove to me there's a God. If there's a God right now, prove to me. Prove to me there's a God.

• 2:08:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Show me a sign, like something." A guy gets up, a marine gets up and goes punches a guy in the face. He says, "What are you doing?" He says, "Well, God told me to, he said, 'Show you a sign.' I'm showing you a sign, there's a God." I'll punch in the face right now. Yeah, boom, that's God. So, so, I mean, but I mean, obviously, we're not saying, guys, we're not saying go teach, punch your, teach her in the face. All we're saying is every once in a while in life, you meet the types of people that are true believers that are willing to go to measures others are not. Rob, what is this that just came in right now?

• 2:08:53Speaker 11

  Uh, this came out about an hour ago. Trump, uh, President Trump has had the press loaded into vans at the White House for an unexpected movement. Um, and then there's reports coming out that there's an emergency statement coming from the Oval Office today at noon.

• 2:09:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Ah.

• 2:09:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Now, he's not deporting the press, so not being put in those vans. They're just going to another location where the president's gonna have a press conference.

• 2:09:14Speaker 23

  So, we're gonna see the president at noon today for an announcement. Uh, the basis of that, we don't have full information yet, but we also just got a notice from the pool, uh, that they've been loaded into the vans for a movement this morning that was not on the schedule. Uh, no clear details yet on where the president is going, but it sounds like they might be on the move here very soon.

• 2:09:32Speaker 24

  She's pregnant. I love off the records. Okay, we'll stand by and let, let us know what you hear. Thanks.

• 2:09:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So, Rob, we have no clue what it is.

• 2:09:38Speaker 11

  No, and then Trump did speak this morning about the John Bolton raid as well.

• 2:09:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, let's see what he said. Real quick, let's see what he said here. What'd he say?

• 2:09:45Speaker 25

  Life, um, I, when I hired him, he served a good purpose.

• 2:09:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump was right about everything.

• 2:09:51Speaker 25

  He was one of the people that was pushed to do the ridiculous bombings in the Middle East. The Bolton, he, you know, he, he wants to always kill people. And, uh, he's very bad at what he does, but he worked out great for me because every time, he doesn't talk. He's like a very quiet person. Except on television, if he could say something bad about Trump, he'll always do that. But, but he really doesn't talk, he's quiet. And I'd walk into a room with him with a foreign country and the foreign country would give me everything because they said, oh no, they're going to get blown up because John Bolton is there. He's a, not a smart guy, but he could be a very unpatriotic guy. I mean, we're going to find out. I know nothing about it. I just saw it this morning. They did a raid.

• 2:10:31Speaker 26

  Do you expect the DOJ to brief you on this?

• 2:10:34Speaker 25

  Yeah, they'll be, they'll brief me. Probably today sometime.

• 2:10:37Speaker 26

  And for Mr. Law-

• 2:10:38Speaker 25

  I don't want, I tell Pam and I tell the group, I don't want to know, but just you have to do what you have to do. I don't want to know about it. It's not necessary. I could know about it. I could be the one starting it. Actually, the chief law enforcement officer. But I feel that it's there this way.

• 2:10:52Speaker 04

  Can we acknowledge it because you said it? The President of the United States is wearing a hat that says, "I was right about everything." With his numbers on the side.

• 2:11:10Tom Ellsworth?

  They'll, they'll brief me later. I don't know about it. I could know about it. I'm the top law enforcement guy. I might know about it. I would have known, but you know, I, I don't know. They'll, they'll tell me later. I don't know.

• 2:11:19Speaker 04

  It wasn't everything, but he's been right about a lot.

• 2:11:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. All right, gang. Those are the two stories we wanted to show you guys. God bless. Have a great weekend and we'll see you guys next week. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

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