Trump SLAMS Epstein Critics, Obama's Address Divorce Rumors & Biden Autopen Scandal | PBD Podcast | Ep. 617

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick dive into Trump’s fiery response to critics of Epstein’s case, Obama addressing rumors about his marriage, and how the Biden autopen scandal could lead to charges for Dr. Anthony Fauci. ----------- 🧢 VT **LIMITED EDITION** 1 OF 250 FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT RAISED PRINT BLACK & BLUE SNAPBACK HAT: https://bit.ly/4m2chS7 📺 PBD'S INTERVIEW W/ CHARLESTON WHITE - FRIDAY, JULY 18TH @ 9AM ET: https://bit.ly/3TKZC9V 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: https://bit.ly/40lR90L 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:59Speaker 05

  Did you ever think you would make it? I still am surprised that it takes three years to be. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright.

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• 1:18Speaker 07

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:24Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, okay. Tom's hearing is gone, guys. I love a small camera. No, no, it's all good. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Rob, at the end of the title, it doesn't say what episode it is, what number it is. 617. Okay, 617. Gang, good to be with you. Storywise, lots going on again. There's this guy who became the 45th and the 47th president that decided yesterday to call a group of his voters. What's the word? What pages this? He called them stupid people? Or I'm trying to find a word. Where's this at? Oh, stupid people. So we'll talk about that. I don't know if it's a good idea to, you know, call your customers stupid

• 2:08Patrick Bet-David?

  or call your voters stupid, but maybe it's a strategy none of us have thought about that's going to be extremely strategery that we will definitely talk about in today's podcast.

• 2:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Then we have Trump unveils more than 100 billion dollars in AI energy, energy investments. As part of a major push for US to lead innovation over China. Apple backs Donald Trump in rare earth minerals push by investing 500 million dollars in US mine. Ukrainians prey agent Melania for turning Trump against Putin. What a weird story, okay? Trump disapproval rating hits record for second term. Tom's got some thoughts on that.

• 2:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I am sold on Trump. Ken Langone, who's an absolute beast of a guy. Four or five billion dollar guy. Major business leader reveals turnaround on views about Trump and tariffs. When Ken Langone speaks, people listen. This guy's, the NYU, I think the one, the hospitals is named after him. And he's given a lot of money to charity. Joe Rogan rips DOJ's handling of Epstein files and scathing rant against Trump administration. But not to worry, folks. Because if you've seen the show, what is the show on Netflix? House of Cards. Kevin Spacey is demanding the release of the Epstein files. You know when Kevin Spacey comes out saying that, it's gonna be released. I just want to let you know. Kevin is here and so some good news. Suddenly Republicans' lead is gone.

• 3:32Patrick Bet-David?

  GOP poster describes how Elon Musk's America Party changes midterms. Queer pop star Boy George. Remember that? Do you really wanna?

• 3:41Speaker 09

  He's still gay?

• 3:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. So when you said, Tom works out to that song.

• 3:47Speaker 09

  He was playing it when he walked in.

• 3:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Always, always. Identity politics has not helped anyone, says Boy George. Chinese buyers grabbing up American homes. Border crossing plummets to historic lows. Trump's enforcement policy yield big results. Assaults on ICE officers. Search 830% as Democrats caught doxing and physically assaulting agents. This is from the DHS. Tom's got some thoughts on that. Ethiopian asylum seeker. Ready for this? Charged with three sexual assaults in two days, a week after arriving in UK on small boat after angry protest at migrant hotel. What a beautiful and safe place to be right now, to be in UK.

• 4:31Patrick Bet-David?

  14 people arrested after anti migrant riots in southern Spain. Oh, that's what you thought I was asking about. Got it. JP Morgan is now worth more than three largest rival companies combined and Jamie Dimon's got a monopoly going on there. JP Morgan CEO reveals what's keeping American economy strong despite global challenges and Biden is not top Fed candidate, but very good, Trump says. Trump doesn't like it if people know what his next moves are, so he'll find a way to deflect and confuse people, even though it may be still Biden, who knows. Hackett grabs pole position in race to be Trump's new Fed chair. Barack Obama finally seen with his wife.

• 5:15Speaker 09

  Shocking.

• 5:15Patrick Bet-David?

  And he was on the podcast.

• 5:17Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 5:17Patrick Bet-David?

  And they right off the bat went into the divorce rumors and the way they spoke, it sounds like they're separated, the way they were talking to each other.

• 5:23Speaker 09

  Did you see the hug, the body language when they came in?

• 5:25Patrick Bet-David?

  It looked like they hadn't seen each other in months is what it looked like, but you know, well.

• 5:30Speaker 09

  And you know, you know what he said, men need a gay friend to show, that's, you're gonna, I'm gonna show it later. Barack goes, everybody needs a gay friend.

• 5:37Adam Sosnick?

  So you're friends with Barack now?

• 5:39Speaker 09

  He gave a list of four things that young men need.

• 5:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow, listen, we know Adam's okay with that. We just talked about that earlier. And by the way, there may be a new podcast being started by Adam and Ben and what was it?

• 5:54Speaker 09

  Dave Rubin.

• 5:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Dave, no, Portnoy.

• 5:55Speaker 09

  Portnoy.

• 5:56Patrick Bet-David?

  According to Nick Fuentes.

• 5:57Speaker 09

  Nick Fuentes, yeah.

• 5:58Adam Sosnick?

  The three best friends.

• 5:59Patrick Bet-David?

  That anyone can have.

• 6:02Adam Sosnick?

  Ben.

• 6:03Speaker 09

  Shout out to the Barstool and the Daily Wire, Valuetainment Alignment.

• 6:06Patrick Bet-David?

  View host lash out at Obama Cuban for scolding Democrats. Whoopi is pissed at Mark Cuban and Obama.

• 6:13Speaker 09

  Oh, Whoopi.

• 6:14Patrick Bet-David?

  The White House launches probe into the Autopen used in major escalation of cover of controversy. Biden tells New York Times, he did not individually approve name of many pardoned via Autopen. Scandal of the century, Josh Hawley demands Biden's staff secretary testify to Congress on Autopen. Rand Paul doubles down on holding Anthony Fauci accountable. Mark Cuban rips Zohran Mamdani's pledges to freeze rent, make groceries cheap. None of that shit, none of that shit has a chance, says Mark Cuban. Joy Reid claims MAGA voters will sacrifice their daughters to please Trump. Alright, so that's that so far. And then on this side, Trump terminates federal funding for California's $135 billion

• 6:56Patrick Bet-David?

  on a high-speed rail boondoggle, train to nowhere. And Trump was re-elected with help from podcasters like Rogan. Is he losing their support over Epstein and Iran? That's ABC News. Trump calls MAGA-based stupid people. Gavin Newsom says he can't say whether eight is too young for transition genders. Is this the one with Sean Ryan, Rob? Yes, sir. Holy moly. Evangelicals rehearse ancient Red Heifer ritual linked to Jerusalem temple prophecy. Chicago Public Schools district cut 1,450 jobs, target teachers and special education support amid $734 million deficit. We'll go into that as well.

• 7:35Tom Ellsworth?

  And turn gyms into homeless shelters for illegal aliens.

• 7:38Speaker 09

  And Pat, did you see the CEO of Astronomer getting caught on those Jumbotron-like kiss cams with his HR and he's married?

• 7:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you see it?

• 7:49Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 7:50Patrick Bet-David?

  You seen the stuff?

• 7:51Speaker 09

  Rob, me and Rob saw before.

• 7:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Do they have clothes on? Because we can't show it if they're naked.

• 7:54Speaker 09

  No, they have clothes on. But when you see it, you're not gonna believe it.

• 7:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 7:57Speaker 09

  Okay, we'll show it, yeah.

• 7:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, we'll do it. I just wanna make sure. I don't want you to show something that all of a sudden is real clothes.

• 8:01Speaker 09

  No, no, no, no, it's real.

• 8:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, alright, well, gang, before we get into the podcast, remember about a month ago, I was wearing this hat? And I said, "This is officially my top three favorite hat."

• 8:11Speaker 09

  Sick.

• 8:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Future looks bright. The colors here, absolutely sick. I can wear this with exactly what I have on right now. Matter of fact, I'm gonna just put it on. I love this hat.

• 8:23Speaker 09

  It doesn't match.

• 8:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay? I love this hat. I absolutely love this hat. It's officially out. It's limited edition. It's one of the numbered ones that we do that comes in the box when we mail it out to you, and it's numbered out of 1 out of 250. You guys already know what happens with our numbered stuff. If you go on eBay, Rob, and you type in "future looks bright," you'll see our material and our merch is there all over the place. But preferably, I want you to buy this stuff to wear it. But if you, for some of you, some of you buy it and put it on eBay, if you can keep going lower and lower and lower, you'll see all this stuff priced at, some of them are ridiculous numbers that people put them up here to sell them at, especially the numbered ones. But for some of you that... Are diehard fans of the Future Looks Bright gear.

• 9:08Patrick Bet-David?

  The new limited edition, one out of 250 is here numbered. And this is again, my top three favorite hat. We've had Future Looks Bright, the blue one. Go to VTmerch.com, place an order, get one for yourself. Uh, some of you guys that are on the email list and on, uh, my next circles, merch circle that we have. You are told about this before anybody else. So a ton of them sold out last night and early this morning. All I'm saying is place the order, this will sell out in the next hour or two. Uh, you don't want to come back to us and say, how can I get one of these? We can't sell it to you, you gotta go on eBay to buy them. And it'll definitely be at a different price than the $99. So go to VTmerch.com, place your order, limited edition, Future Looks Bright hat is here. All right.

• 9:51Patrick Bet-David?

  First story I want to go into is with Ken Langone, okay? With everything that's going on, with everything that's happening with Epstein, with everything that's going on with the fumble that we're talking about. When you look at policies, how policies are being implemented by the president. There's a lot of big victories that they're having. And Ken Langone, okay? One of the Home Depot founders, multi-billionaire, wrote a book called, I Love Capitalism, phenomenal book. Said the following of what's going on with Trump. He said, I am sold on Trump. Rob, if you can play this clip, here's Ken Langone.

• 10:23Speaker 12

  Look, let me tell you right now, I am sold on Trump. In fact, I'll say this. I think he's got a good shot at going down in history as one of our best presidents ever.

• 10:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Bingo.

• 10:36Speaker 13

  That is a real turnaround because you didn't want to vote for him.

• 10:38Speaker 12

  I, I, I tell you the reason. I want to tell you, I'm a believer. What, what I'm seeing happening is, is absolutely nothing short of, of a great thing. And, and there's a beat. People are walking with more bounce in there. I'm, it's all around.

• 10:54Speaker 14

  I gave you quite a bit of grief.

• 10:56Speaker 12

  Huh?

• 10:56Speaker 14

  I gave you grief.

• 10:58Speaker 12

  You gave me grief.

• 10:59Speaker 14

  I gave you grief when it was a binary choice. You're still complaining about Trump and it was a binary choice. It's like, are you kidding me?

• 11:05Speaker 12

  Knowledge implies one thing. When you made a mistake, admit it.

• 11:08Speaker 15

  Okay, good for him.

• 11:09Speaker 12

  I think this guy is turning out to be a president.

• 11:13Speaker 14

  Right.

• 11:13Speaker 12

  One of the pilots on that miraculous trip to Iran that we wiped out, whatever, how we wiped out.

• 11:19Speaker 14

  Right.

• 11:20Speaker 12

  He said, you're the only guy that in the presidency that would have done what you did. One of the pilots said that.

• 11:26Speaker 16

  Yeah.

• 11:27Speaker 12

  And you know what? He's probably right.

• 11:30Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, I said four billion dollar guy. He's a nine billion dollar guy. Ken Langone says, it makes a comment like this about Trump and everything that's going on. This guy's giving $300 million to NYU School of Medicine. Okay. Uh, $200 million gifts made to 2008 and 2018. He's not a Trump guy. This is what most people don't realize. This is a guy that gave 10 million to the Sterns Part-Time MBA Program. 11 million donated to Bucknell University. 5 million to the Animal Medical Center in New York. This guy's been given money for, he's given nearly over a half a billion dollars of his wealth away. Okay, is what he's done. Uh, and he wrote a book, I Love Capitalism. There's a story in there I want to tell, but I want to first go to Adam with this. And then I'll tell the story. Go ahead, Adam, your thoughts on this story.

• 12:09Adam Sosnick?

  So I believe this is a major function of the Trump's third term. We don't have any other presidents in our lifetime who've basically said, listen, timeout, you're gonna go sit on the bench for four years, study, come back and do better your second time around. Trump 2.0 is a masterclass versus Trump 1.0 was sort of a train wreck. He knows where all the quote-unquote bodies are buried this time. He knows what's going on in the swamp. He knows what's going on, uh, in the Republican side of things. He knows what's going on the Democrat side of things. So you're gonna just do better. When he came into office, when we had Eric Trump here, I said, how much more equipped are you guys this time around than the first time around? He goes, oh, it's not even close. And he full-on admitted, we had no clue what we were doing. And that's the reality of the situation.

• 12:52Adam Sosnick?

  Trump is now basically in his 10th year of being the President of the United States. And he's implementing his agenda. And here's the kicker. He don't give a shit if certain people don't like certain things. He's not running for reelection. He doesn't basically have that, uh, that worry where, oh, people are gonna upset me. Trump has thick skin. Everyone criticized Trump for having thin skin the first time around. Oh, he's thin-skinned. He's attacking everybody. He can't let anything go. At this point, the only thing he's still attacking the first time around was, uh, Rosie O'Donnell. At this point, he's like, I don't care. Say what you want to say. And he's giving cover for his agenda. There's a lot of people upset with Trump for certain things these days that were not in his top 20 list. And he basically says, I don't give a shit. I'm gonna do what I want to do. I'm gonna win.

• 13:37Adam Sosnick?

  America's gonna be great again. And everyone else who was doubting him is now falling in line in lockstep.

• 13:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, your thoughts on this story?

• 13:46Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll tell ya. First of all, hats off to Ken Langone because he's showing leadership that is tough, direct, and humble without being weak. And he plainly says, you know what? You know how many decisions this guy has made in his life? Key decisions, Home Depot and the businesses he's run? And they get it wrong. If they get it right every time, in 15 years, you could have a monopoly in any market. If every single decision you make is right. And he's coming out saying, you know what? I didn't saw him. Becky Quick was, uh, called him on that. He says, I didn't. And I'm supporting, I'm supporting him now. I think he's getting it right. And there was a quote that wasn't in the video, uh, that was, uh, that, that Ken made, which I thought was interesting. He says, I think, damn it, give Trump credit.

• 14:30Tom Ellsworth?

  His instincts are good and there are things that need to be fixed. And so look at he's focusing on. Make a decision, Mr. President, and let's fix something. And you're not gonna get it right every time. And I think that's just, that's strong. And I agree with what Adam just said, as echoed, because I sat right here when Eric Trump said, it isn't even close. We have a different vetting process. We have learned, we got things going. And so now it's on a different thing. But this is only one side of what's going on right now. So you could look at this, you could look at the AI energy investment. You look at Apple putting a half a, um, billion dollars into the, um, rare earth minerals in Las Vegas project. You look, all these things have happened the last three days that are wins, Pat. That are big W's, but there's this cloud.

• 15:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, there's this cloud. And by the way, let me tell you a story about Ken Langone. This is why guys like Maimdani, AOC, all of these guys, when they talk about capitalism, socialism, communism, whatever they want to talk about. Ken tells a story about capitalism, about the fact that his dad died at 62 years old. And he says, "My dad died at 62 from the same issues that I had, but in my late 50s, give or take, I may get the age wrong, I was on blood thinners." And blood thinners, if my dad had access to blood thinners, which were not around when he died at 62, my dad would have lived to 80, 90 years old. By the way, do you know how old Ken Langone is right now?

• 15:52Speaker 17

  90?

• 15:53Patrick Bet-David?

  What's his age? 1935, 89. He'll be 90 years old in less than a month. Okay, in exactly two months, he'll be 90 years old. Because of blood thinners. How did blood thinners come out? Because of capitalism. Why is it because of capitalism? There's an incentive to create a solution for a problem, certain ways of getting that blood thinner. My dad's been on blood thinners for god knows how many years. He's 83 years old. So, common sense prevails, and I love the fact that he says, "I was wrong." This guy's doing the right job. Now, let's go to the next part. Last night, we're at the boardroom till 11 o'clock at night with some interesting people who are connected on the political side, and we're having a conversation. I'm like, "Hey." One of the guys that was there, I said, "What's up with this Epstein stuff? Why is he not letting this go?

• 16:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You screwed up, you had a fumble, but you're not letting it go. You keep bringing it back up." There is not a single person that's bringing more attention to the Epstein than Trump. Not one. And there isn't anybody that's bringing more attention to this than him. Okay? And then, he comes out yesterday, and he calls MAGA-based stupid people and gullible weaklings over Epstein files. Rob, I don't know if you have this clip or not. The radical left Democrats have hit... Is that the one or no?

• 17:09Speaker 17

  This is his Truth Social post, and then he commented as well. I have the videos.

• 17:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have the video? Play the video first of stupid people. Because, you know, I want to know the strategy behind saying something like this. Go ahead, Rob.

• 17:23Speaker 16

  ...all this intrigue over the Epstein files, but I do want to ask you to clarify something you said this morning. You said this was all a hoax. Has your Attorney General told you this was a hoax? What evidence have you seen of that?

• 17:33Speaker 18

  No, it's not the Attorney General, no. I know it's a hoax. It's started by Democrats. It's been run by the Democrats for four years. You had Christopher Wray and these characters, and Comey before him. And it's a bad group. It started actually looking at the Steele dossier, that turned out to be a total hoax. The 51 agents, the intelligence agents, it was a hoax. It's all been a big hoax that's perpetrated by the Democrats. And some stupid Republicans, and foolish Republicans, fall into the net. And so they try and do the Democrats' work. The Democrats are good for nothing, other than these hoaxes. They're bad for policy. They're bad for picking candidates that can get elected. Like in New York, we have a communist

• 18:18Speaker 18

  running. He may get elected too, actually, but he's gonna, he'll destroy the city. No, no, it's, I call it the Epstein hoax. Takes a lot of time and effort. Instead of talking about the great achievements we've had...

• 18:29Patrick Bet-David?

  We've paused it right there, Ron. Okay. So, Tom, one end, resume, a lot of victories. On this end, Epstein, he's not letting it go. Now he's calling stupid people. I've not heard a strategy where you call your customers stupid, or you call your voter base stupid. How do you process this?

• 18:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I have trouble with it. I have trouble with the word stupid and hoax. So, it was not a hoax when Southern District of New York, in cooperation with Florida authorities, found 22 girls that were in the original indictment. We're talking about the, I'm talking about the Epstein's Florida indictment.

• 19:11Speaker 09

  Which was in the early 2000s, has nothing to do with Russia, Comey, none of that bullshit that he's talking about.

• 19:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct. But it was girls going to the island, girls hear things that happened, and it was all there. And then a prosecutor... Dropped it down to one charge of solicitation and then like solicitation with intent. The whole thing was dropped down, stuck in a drawer, but the data was there, the evidence was there. All of that was there. So that part was not a hoax. You take a look at, you know, the Crown, England. They were upset with Prince Andrew. The picture was real, the encounter was real. Things had happened with their, that was not a hoax. He was over there with Epstein and Virginia Grifory and that's happened. That's not a hoax. So it's not a hoax.

• 20:01Tom Ellsworth?

  It's not like the Steele dossier that was a pack of paper that was proved to be fraudulently written. And it was a hoax. You've got all these things that happened. So I have a problem with the word hoax. You know, you could say overplayed, overblown, you can say a lot of things, but hoax. But then, you know, calling people stupid, they're not stupid. They want answers. They want to know about JFK. They want to know about RFK, a senior. They want to know about MLK. You know, did we through intelligence agencies, FBI, CIA, have a hand in doing things to our own? And then, yes, they want to know what the hell is going on with Epstein.

• 20:42Tom Ellsworth?

  And then to say you're all dumb and you're falling for a hoax. I don't know if that's how you energize your base or you get the base to move in a certain direction.

• 20:52Speaker 09

  Well, listen, saying all the loser and all that stuff, we've been hearing that talk. But to say, I don't want your support anymore.

• 21:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I've been here fairly close to me, like two feet away from me.

• 21:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Very, very.

• 21:04Adam Sosnick?

  A lot of losers around here, guys.

• 21:06Patrick Bet-David?

  People, yeah, but yeah.

• 21:06Speaker 09

  Right in this area.

• 21:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't want to interrupt.

• 21:08Adam Sosnick?

  Not so much here, not so much here, but right here, Loserville.

• 21:15Speaker 09

  What a shitty, sorry, thing to say, like, people like us, people like me, people like you, people like Tom, that have been ride or die with this guy for 10 years, through all the smear jobs, all the witch hunt, all the hit pieces, Russia collusion, Hillary's bullshit, impeachment one, impeachment two, fake indictments, lawfare, Covid, all the jab mandates, all that. People lost everything. We lost jobs, we lost families, people died. People were censored, blacklisted, just for saying his name. I was in California, guys. I was in the belly of the beast, of the biggest Trump-hating, red hat, punching people in the face, that whole thing. I'm not taking away from him. He's the president.

• 21:57Speaker 09

  He's gone through a ridiculous journey, including getting shot in the head, okay? All right? We were in the trenches with you, okay? Now what? Because we're questioning one thing. Jeffrey Epstein, suddenly, we're the enemy. We're the losers, we're the idiots. Look away, shut up, it's Russia collusion. That's horse shit, okay? Epstein's been going on since early 2000s, what? Maybe even the 90s, he was doing this perverted stuff. You don't get to do that. I'm sorry. And everybody always thinks that we're all these, always on the Trump train and we don't have any criticism. I'm sorry, bro. You don't do that shit. You don't spit in our faces. Everything that we've been through. Pat, I've lost not only friendships, I've lost family members I don't even talk to anymore because of this shit.

• 22:42Speaker 09

  And then you're gonna come out and tell us like, "I don't need your support, I don't need you." Okay, have that attitude. And you're gonna see it make these people lose. 2006, the midterms, you're gonna lose that type of freaking support and anybody attached to his name. If Eric tries to run, if anybody with the Trump name 2028 tries to run, this is gonna be hanging over the head because now the trust is lost, okay?

• 23:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You think it's gonna hurt the entire last name?

• 23:08Speaker 09

  100%, and I'm gonna be this guy, Pat. We cannot let this shit go. I'm actually happy, I'm happy. I know people are probably like, "We're tired of it, move on." We're on, what's today? Thursday? I'm so happy that we're still talking about this.

• 23:23Patrick Bet-David?

  We're only talking about it because he's talking about it.

• 23:25Speaker 09

  Thank you! So guess what? And I'm sorry, shut up about it. You should have just said, "Guys, it's done, it's over." But getting back to the root, Pat, getting back to the root. What changed? What happened? Something shifted. There wasn't all of a sudden, no, you guys are idiots, shut up.

• 23:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I have an idea.

• 23:44Speaker 09

  I have one too, and I think, I think the majority of the people know what it is. I don't know, because the relation- I know what it is. What is it? No, no, I mean, there's so many labels, there's so many layers to it, but I'm starting to piece everything together, and it's like, something shifted. All of a sudden, this relationship, Bibi, all, all this goes back to me, to Bibi, and Israel, and Mossad, because Trump was going- There it is. I'm just, oh, Adam, I'm sorry, connecting the dots makes me that guy. It's like-

• 24:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think that's the case. I think that's one of the-

• 24:21Speaker 09

  One of the main things?

• 24:22Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I, I think it's one of handful of things. I don't think that's the main one.

• 24:25Speaker 09

  So what would you think is the-

• 24:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it's one of handful of things. Here's Rogan, by the way. You want to play the clip with Rogan? Here's what Joe had to say about the, the deal with Epstein.

• 24:32Speaker 19

  They got videotape, and then all of a sudden, they don't. You know, you have the director of the FBI on this show, saying there's no tape. If there was, nothing you're looking for is on those tapes. Like, what? Why'd they say, there was thousands of hours of tapes of people doing horrible shit? Why'd they say that? Right. Didn't Pam Bondi say that? What, are you talking about Epstein or diddy? Yeah, Epstein. Epstein, yeah, she said it literally, I think a week before you had the FBI-

• 24:56Patrick Bet-David?

  So you, you're hearing now, this conversation being all over the place. Kevin Stacey's coming out saying, "Release the files, Alan Dershowitz. Release the files." All this stuff that, you know, release- Speaker Johnson was, is this the one about him talking about Epstein?

• 25:09Speaker 07

  Yes, sir.

• 25:10Patrick Bet-David?

  He had a different position he was taking here. Go ahead and play this clip.

• 25:13Speaker 07

  I'm for transparency. We're intellectually consistent in this. We, look, Reagan used to tell us, "We should trust the American people." I believe in that principle. I know President Trump does as well, and I, I trust him. I mean, he put together a, a team of his choosing, and they're doing a great job. It's a very delicate subject, but we should, we should put everything out there and let the people decide it. I mean, the, the White House and the White House team are privy to facts that I don't know.

• 25:35Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 25:35Speaker 07

  This isn't my lane, I haven't been involved in that. Uh, but, but I, I agree with the sentiment that we need to, we need to put it out there. And, um, and, you know, Pam Bondi, I don't know-

• 25:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so it's, it's to the point that everybody's being forced to talk about it. Byron Donalds was asked about it yesterday. Everybody is being asked about it. You don't have a choice but being asked about it. But do you remember when, who was somebody that came to the White House? That offered the president something that's never happened before to go to UK? And do you remember that entire exchange when Starmer was in the White House, Rob? And he's saying, "We want to extend an invitation for you to come to," and Trump's reaction to it?

• 26:15Speaker 20

  I remember the meeting, but I don't remember.

• 26:17Patrick Bet-David?

  This is such a big deal. You know, "We've never done this before. This is the first time we're extending this invitation to, for you to come." You don't remember this? This is when he visited and he extended an invite. I'm surprised you guys don't remember this. There was a, he hands him an envelope. Okay, he hands him an envelope. This was a few, this was them in February. Yeah, that's it. He hands him an envelope and he says, "We're extending an invite for you to come to UK to allow you to experience something that no president has ever experienced before." Is this when he takes the envelope out? Press play?

• 26:49Speaker 20

  Yeah.

• 26:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, this is it.

• 26:49Speaker 20

  It is my pleasure to bring from His Majesty the King, um, a letter. He sends his best wishes and his regards, of course. But he also asked me to bear this letter and bring it to you. So can I present a letter from the King to you?

• 27:06Speaker 18

  Thank you very much. Am I supposed to read it right now?

• 27:10Speaker 20

  Yes, please do. What do I do? What do I do with this letter?

• 27:12Speaker 18

  I will do.

• 27:13Speaker 20

  I've got to tell him what your reaction is, so I need to know.

• 27:16Speaker 18

  He is, he is a great gentleman. A great, great gentleman.

• 28:31Speaker 18

  Oh, that's wow. Well, that is really nice. I must make sure his signature's on that.

• 28:41Speaker 18

  Otherwise, it's not quite as meaningful.

• 28:46Speaker 18

  It is, and that's quite a signature, isn't it? Beautiful. He's a beautiful man, a wonderful man, and we appreciate it. I've known him, gotten to know him very well, actually. First term and now a second term. Perhaps you'd like to say what that very important paragraph?

• 29:01Speaker 20

  Yeah, so this is a letter from His Majesty the King. It's an invitation for a second state visit. This is really special. This has never happened before. This is unprecedented.

• 29:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So, stay with me here. The King invitation, never happened before, US President. Who has been the most famous name on the Epstein list? Prince Andrew. And what is he linked to? He's a...

• 29:33Tom Ellsworth?

  He's the King's little brother.

• 29:35Patrick Bet-David?

  He's the King's, yeah. Bingo. And who is extending that invite? And who encouraged him to do it? And who's most worried about the reputation of the royalty, royal family over there? The King. Who more than the King? The brother. The, the, the, the brother, I get that. But the mother, the family?

• 29:52Tom Ellsworth?

  The late Queen was irate and stuck Andrew in hiding for six months.

• 29:58Speaker 09

  Yeah, his punishment for pedophilia was, "You can't speak in public."

• 30:01Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. But let me tell you, the reputation of the family is on the line.

• 30:05Speaker 09

  Hundred percent.

• 30:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 30:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Known as the Crown.

• 30:07Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. So, to me,

• 30:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump is, uh, uh, sitting there and he is getting these bigger opportunities because he's not pursuing history.

• 30:21Patrick Bet-David?

  And pursuing history, he is, he is being asked by others. I think there's a part of it that's blackmail. That's the Mossad part, Israel. I think there's a part of it that's a exchange of a favor. Make this go away. We will do something with you and bring you to UK. That's never been done before. The, the legacy part, their links to founding fathers are originally from where? Founding fathers fought what? The tyranny of King George. The tyranny of King George. So he is being, this is his way to be linked back to find a way to have an upper on George Washington.

• 31:06Patrick Bet-David?

  There, there is some legacy stuff that's on the line here for me. So if they're saying, hey, I'm, you know, willing to do this exchange. This has got to go away, our son, no problem. Let me get to work. Let me see what I can do. That's another pure speculation on the link with UK. The Mossad part, I mean, anybody that says you don't know, don't, you never know. Did the guy's girl accomplice, Jelaine Maxwell, Jelaine Maxwell's father is Robert Maxwell. Oh my God, his ties with Mossad are insane. Who his ties with media companies and Mossad, it's just documented. It's not that it's not. And by the way, the Epstein stuff is very weird. Do you know Lex Wexner? Am I saying the name correctly? Lex Wexner. Okay.

• 31:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know Lex Wexner? Who he had as his power of attorney that could make decisions on everything about his assets and money? You know who what, who he gave power of attorney to? Lex Wexner? Can you type in, did Lex Wexner give power of attorney to Epstein? Type in, did Lex Wexner, if you can ask it in chat GPT, did Lex Wexner give power of attorney to Epstein? So watch this here. At one point, he gave a form. Wow. Look at this. What? Lex Wexner gave a full power of attorney to Epstein in 1991. Why?

• 32:27Patrick Bet-David?

  This guy's a 10 billion dollar guy today. The legal authority granted Epstein sweeping control of Wexner's personal finances, including the ability to hire staff, sign checks, buy and sell properties and borrow money. Do you know what ends up happening with Wexner and Epstein? So you know how they always talk about the fact that Epstein had the most expensive residence in Manhattan? Do you know how he got the most, uh, most, uh? Do you know the story?

• 32:49Speaker 09

  No, I honestly don't.

• 32:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Lex Wexner gifted him a 77 million dollar most expensive, biggest residence in Manhattan.

• 32:57Speaker 09

  Gifted?

• 32:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Validated.

• 32:58Speaker 09

  Gifted a 70 million dollar house?

• 33:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Did Lex Wexner gift? Gift Jeffrey Epstein? The most expensive private residence in Manhattan?

• 33:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Private residence in Manhattan? Watch this. Did he? Let's see, maybe, maybe-

• 33:17Speaker 09

  70 million dollars?

• 33:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it was 77 million dollars. Yes. At the time, he bought it at 13.2 million. When he gave it to him, reportedly Epstein formally acquired the house from Wexner, reportedly worth 20 million dollars. And he gave it to him as a form of a gift, zero dollars. Today, it's valued at 56 to 77 million dollars. Why would he gift him? I mean, on every day, we get gifts like this. Now, what is Lex Wexner tied to? What controversy does Lex Wexner have?

• 33:48Speaker 09

  Victoria's Secret?

• 33:49Patrick Bet-David?

  A lot of stuff that this guy's got controversy tied to him. So now, you, you go to, you know, his property in New Mexico. Are you familiar with Jeffrey Epstein's property in New Mexico?

• 33:59Speaker 09

  No, but not to cut you off. Is that, Pat, that, that location is in Manhattan, correct? Do you know who his next door neighbor was?

• 34:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Who?

• 34:05Speaker 09

  You'll never guess.

• 34:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Who?

• 34:07Speaker 09

  He was just in that video next to Trump that you, on, on the tarmac.

• 34:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Did he?

• 34:10Speaker 09

  Howard Lutnick. Ask, is, was, is Howard Lutnick neighbors with Jeffrey Epstein in New York on 11 East Street, 71st Street?

• 34:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know the link between those two. No, I'm saying they're literally next door neighbors. Bro, when you're, when you're. You're rich and powerful in New York City. Somebody saying, did you know Patrick Bedavid is neighbors with, you know? Messi. Messi. I don't, I don't know. It's because they're the only guys that can afford the neighborhood. But Jeffrey Epstein. I get that, but let me, let me continue a little bit more. Do you know Epstein had a, one property that nobody talks about, the 8,000 acre Zorro Ranch in New Mexico? You ever heard about this property? I've heard of it through you, but I don't, I never did that much. If you type in this property, it's 8,000 acres. Do you know what he was doing here? Transhumanism. What's that? Okay, so he was trying to find a way to pass his DNA and populate Epstein kids. Oh my god. Through his DNA because he was interested in eugenics.

• 35:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and a bunch of different things and he had multiple helipads. There, there, there's a lot of weird things. Do you know two days before he allegedly killed himself? Is when he created a trust that he moved his 577 million dollars to called the 1953 trust? Do you know he did that two days before he killed himself? There are just too many weird things. So two days before you commit suicide. And, and it's still active? Huh? And it's still active? It's still active. And by the way, that money, that 577 million dollars? And that trust is still moving till today. It went all the way down to 100, uh, went all the way down to 40 million dollars. It just got another 114 million dollars. I think it's around 150 million dollars right now and it's moving. So that trust is constantly moving. It's called the 1953 trust.

• 35:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Two days before, there you go. Two days before his death. He signed a new will that transferred his entire fortune to this trust called the 1953 trust. Two days before, little suspect. Just too many things that are suspect. So the more and more and more, the president brings attention to it. The more and more and more causes average day to day people to research to get a little bit deeper and say. Who did, I would, by the way, think about the people that take one story to be interested in Epstein. Then think about people that need five people to mention it to be interested in Epstein. Then think about people that need 50 people. Then think about people that were never interested, the bottom 50% that now the president keeps talking about. You're forcing those guys to not be interested.

• 36:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You're doing it. Cause you keep talking about it. No one's bringing more attention to this than him. So either release, fire a few people, release, you know, refocus your attention on all the great things that you're doing. Or guess what? Stop talking about it. Make a choice. One of those two. Adam, thoughts?

• 36:49Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, there's so much to unpack here. I'd like to play maybe a little game if I may before you tell me what's my point? The point is I want to play a game. And maybe this game is directed at Vinnie, but I'd like your contribution. Let's go as far as we possibly can down the rabbit hole. I mean this. Let's go to where you think this is going to lead. Everyone's out there trying to, we're figuring it out. Like, you ever seen Always Sunny?

• 37:14Speaker 09

  Not really.

• 37:14Adam Sosnick?

  You ever seen Always Sunny? Can you show that, that image? Because this is kind of where I think we're headed. Is Charlie from Always Sunny, he's like, oh, you, yeah, well, you know what's going on here? This guy found him and he found him, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it turned out, bro, you haven't slept in weeks. I'm not saying that about you. I'm saying when you go down, what I, what I want to do. He's talking about you. Maybe I am. My stupid loser friend, Vinnie.

• 37:37Speaker 09

  Go ahead.

• 37:38Adam Sosnick?

  Love you, bro. But let's go down as, as far as down the rabbit hole. Because as you know, I'll go down like the rabbit hole, like. Can you just get there already? Guys, you know what?

• 37:47Speaker 09

  Get in the hole!

• 37:48Adam Sosnick?

  Everyone can rant forever. I go 30 seconds. What's your point?

• 37:50Speaker 09

  Get in your hole.

• 37:51Adam Sosnick?

  I'm done with that. Not, not what's your point? Get to the point. I'm getting to the point, guys. I want to go down the rabbit hole because I'll go take a look and be like, nah, don't want to go. Get to the rabbit hole. Sir.

• 38:04Adam Sosnick?

  Let's go down, like, where do you think this all leads? Let's say all your convictions and all your.

• 38:09Speaker 09

  Questions.

• 38:10Adam Sosnick?

  Questions.

• 38:11Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 38:11Adam Sosnick?

  Where do you think it ends? And once you find that answer, what then? So let's go, we find out actually what you think it is, say it.

• 38:21Speaker 09

  Okay.

• 38:21Adam Sosnick?

  And then what happens then? And then I want to understand what.

• 38:24Speaker 09

  Okay, what, what I think, Adam, Vincent O'Shaughnessy's opinion. Is that Jeffrey Epstein was an, a Mossad agent, working for a foreign country. Setting up shop, getting blackmail on everybody. Singers, actors, politicians, everybody under the sun, maybe even a sitting president. Adam, I don't know. He visited the White House. Let's just say that. They take all that footage, and mind you, this is a Mossad, Israel-approved.

• 38:55Speaker 09

  Blackmail ring to have men sex, traffic children, women, men, kids, whatever. Have sex with these people, have all the footage, have all the files. So then, Adam, once they're all gone, you can use it for policy. Make this law to affect our policy, okay? No, all the victims, everything, all, you know, they're never gonna get any justice. Then the guy who was running it, either he suicided himself, or something happened to him. Or, in the three minutes of that footage that was doctored multiple times from Adobe Pro, by the way, they're the worst at covering their tracks. Maybe he walked out of the cell. Cause some people are saying the photo of him laying there with his hook nose, isn't even really him.

• 39:39Adam Sosnick?

  Hook nose?

• 39:39Speaker 09

  Hold on, no, I'm saying his nose, no, the guy, the guy that they switched out. They're saying, I'm just telling you, all the options, Adam.

• 39:45Adam Sosnick?

  Let's go, keep going.

• 39:45Speaker 09

  So, that guy, and he suicides. So now, people want to know, like, who has all this footage? Cause the FBI-

• 39:52Adam Sosnick?

  Do me a favor, Rob, show me that one image again.

• 39:56Speaker 09

  Yo. Oh, the one of Charlie?

• 39:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, keep going, Rob. Go ahead, Vinny.

• 40:00Speaker 09

  Yeah, okay. So, and the FBI's chain of custody, guys, I don't know if you know this or not. The FBI's chain of, it's documented, it's processed, evidence remains intact. So in the Epstein case, the FBI seized, Adam, 300 gigabytes, that's a lot, okay? Uh, data on his property, videos, hard drive, CDs labeled, uh, with disturbing titles, official records. So, Adam, the FBI has strict, crazy protocols. What happened to all of it? Adam, who, hold on, hold on, Adam. Whistleblowers even say that, you know, all of this was here, now all of a sudden, Adam, it's all gone. Okay, so you know what that means, Adam? Mossad, Israel government, has all the footage, they have all the dirt, and they're influencing our policy.

• 40:45Speaker 09

  The President of the United States, the President of the United States, Adam, has flipped and changed his tune like that. Like, hold on, like that. So, Adam, I have a problem, and I'm pretty sure the majority of the losers and the idiots that you think are out here watching it, are not comfortable, are not comfortable with our president, who we've been ride or die with- Now changing the tune saying you guys are losers. Don't, I don't need your support anymore because Adam, I don't give a shit how many wins he stacked up. Have all the, and I love that he's doing it. For him to go, don't worry about the blackmail, sex trafficking thing, just shut, shut up about it. Because I've done so good for you. That's like having a dad, Adam, that buys you the bike, gives you the ice cream, does everything for you, but, but guess what, Adam?

• 41:28Speaker 09

  He's, you know, sleeping with underage kids in the neighborhood, but who cares? He gave you the bike, he gave you the house, he has a roof over your head. I'm uncomfortable with that, Adam, and that's why, I know it drives you crazy. 1200% of the internet, no, no, 1200% of the internet wants to know the truth. And guess what? Nobody believes him. And nobody believes, Adam, that Mossad didn't have anything to do with it.

• 41:50Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so let me just.

• 41:51Speaker 09

  Is that, is that, is that that guy, show that, show that picture, Rob? That's me, Adam? Oh my God. Adam, somebody asking questions and connecting dots, that's who you think I am?

• 42:02Adam Sosnick?

  If you're wrong, if, that may, may very well be you.

• 42:06Speaker 09

  Prove me wrong. Well, there's no fucking proof.

• 42:09Adam Sosnick?

  Alright, so then.

• 42:09Speaker 09

  Where's the proof?

• 42:10Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so then we'll go around in circles.

• 42:11Speaker 09

  Good.

• 42:12Adam Sosnick?

  So, let me just unpack this. Mossad is at the top of the list. There's nobody bigger on this particular thing.

• 42:18Speaker 09

  Meaning he was working for them. Oh yeah.

• 42:21Adam Sosnick?

  So not CIA, not FBI, not, not.

• 42:23Speaker 09

  Adam, that's the main. The guy's name is Jeffrey Epstein. Ehud Barak and all these guys were visiting his apartment. There's photos covering their faces leaving his house.

• 42:32Adam Sosnick?

  So because he's Jewish, obviously Mossad.

• 42:35Speaker 09

  And the, okay, and hold on, hold on, because you want to go there? Adam, as of late, has Donald Trump, who was beefing with Bibi. Because Bibi and them had Mike Waltz in a cabinet meeting, texting Israel, trying to get us into a war with Iran. Trump was like, no, he, he was like, hell no, went to the Middle East, didn't even visit him. And then all of a sudden, Adam, I'm gonna go to war, I'm gonna bomb, and Epstein is all bullshit. Weird, Adam, isn't that weird?

• 43:00Adam Sosnick?

  I'm gonna ask some questions before. So Mossad's at the top of the list.

• 43:03Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 43:04Adam Sosnick?

  Bibi Netanyahu's controlling Trump. And Israel is dictating policy America.

• 43:10Speaker 09

  Hold on.

• 43:10Adam Sosnick?

  Is that what's going on?

• 43:11Speaker 09

  So you don't think AIPAC in our freaking country?

• 43:14Adam Sosnick?

  AIPAC as well, okay.

• 43:15Speaker 09

  Adam, it's not hard to put this together.

• 43:17Adam Sosnick?

  Obviously, it makes complete sense.

• 43:18Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 43:19Adam Sosnick?

  So Israel controls America.

• 43:21Speaker 09

  Israel has very, very strong influence over our policy.

• 43:26Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 43:26Speaker 09

  Yes. I'm sorry that it hurts.

• 43:28Adam Sosnick?

  Cool. We get it. We found out.

• 43:30Speaker 09

  Well, hold on, hold on, Adam. Does that make me anti-Semitic?

• 43:33Adam Sosnick?

  No, it makes you...

• 43:33Speaker 09

  Does that make me hate Jewish people?

• 43:35Adam Sosnick?

  You haven't said one thing that might not be true. You're probably 100% true. But just in case you're not, let's say you're absolutely right. You did it.

• 43:44Speaker 09

  Okay.

• 43:44Adam Sosnick?

  You, Vinnie O'Shaughnessy, cracked the code. If I can see that picture one more time.

• 43:48Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 43:49Adam Sosnick?

  You cracked the code. You did it. You did it. Congratulations. Mossad, Epstein, Trump, he's owned.

• 43:54Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 43:54Adam Sosnick?

  Now what?

• 43:55Speaker 09

  What do you mean now what?

• 43:56Adam Sosnick?

  You cracked the code.

• 43:57Speaker 09

  Everybody that was involved, Adam, goes to fucking jail. There's a trial and you go to jail.

• 44:03Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 44:04Speaker 09

  Look, look how easy that is. And Adam, you know why I can be critical as well? How much American dollars goes to Israel every year? Anybody want to guess?

• 44:11Adam Sosnick?

  3 billion dollars.

• 44:12Speaker 09

  So you know what that means? I can have any opinion I want. Because my money is invested in that group.

• 44:17Adam Sosnick?

  Well, there's a lot of countries that money goes to.

• 44:19Speaker 09

  Then I can talk about all of them.

• 44:20Adam Sosnick?

  So that's the only... So let's talk about every other country.

• 44:22Speaker 09

  Jail, jail.

• 44:24Adam Sosnick?

  So Israel's the only country that receives money?

• 44:25Speaker 09

  No, no, no, no, no. Go back to your point. What do I want? Adam, I want jail. And if, God forbid, the President of the United States was involved with it, guess what? Same for him.

• 44:34Adam Sosnick?

  Which president?

• 44:35Speaker 09

  Our president.

• 44:36Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 44:36Speaker 09

  If he was involved...

• 44:36Adam Sosnick?

  So you want Trump to go to jail now?

• 44:38Speaker 09

  If he was with underage girls, 1,000%.

• 44:41Adam Sosnick?

  So if Trump was with a 17-year-old girl 20 years ago?

• 44:45Speaker 09

  Yes.

• 44:45Adam Sosnick?

  So you want Trump to go to jail?

• 44:47Speaker 09

  It's called pedoph... Hold on, let me ask you. Is it illegal? Can you have sex with a 17-year-old in New York?

• 44:51Adam Sosnick?

  In 35 states.

• 44:52Speaker 09

  In New York?

• 44:53Adam Sosnick?

  The age is 16. And then in certain states, it's 18. According to some Muslim scriptures, you could be nine.

• 45:00Speaker 09

  So it's okay if he was in a different part of land hooking up with a 16-year-old?

• 45:04Adam Sosnick?

  But let me ask one last thing. Because, I mean, obviously, what I wanted you to do was just get it all out there. Thank you for that. You could be right, you could be wrong. So we want Trump to go to jail, Israel's controlling the United States.

• 45:16Speaker 09

  See, no, don't say that. Anybody that was guilty of having sex with an underage child belongs to go to jail. Including the operation that was blackmailing everybody. They deserved the freaking...

• 45:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I got it. So now, where are you going now?

• 45:30Adam Sosnick?

  So, no, I... My point is I wanted to

• 45:33Speaker 09

  A accountability, Adam.

• 45:33Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, what I'm, what I'm sick of people doing is skirting around the issues. Just say how you feel.

• 45:39Speaker 09

  I've been saying it for

• 45:40Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, so, so let me, so then last question. Last question. Who do you trust more? Donald Trump? J D Vance? Cash Patel? Dan Bongino? Pam Bondi?

• 45:53Speaker 09

  Who do I trust the most?

• 45:54Adam Sosnick?

  Or whoever's the loudest people on the internet? Tucker? Candace? Dave Smith? Who do you trust more of that group? No, no, no, no, it's a binary option.

• 46:04Speaker 09

  Hold on.

• 46:04Adam Sosnick?

  Who do you trust more?

• 46:05Speaker 09

  Adam, I don't trust anybody that's lying to me blatantly in my face. The, the correlation doesn't match because those guys are asking the questions, Adam. They don't know either. They don't know 100%, but you know what they want? Stop bullshitting us. He just nailed it. Why you keep talking about it? We're talking about it because of you.

• 46:22Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, stop yelling. Just because you're yelling, you're not right.

• 46:24Speaker 09

  No, it just pisses me off.

• 46:25Adam Sosnick?

  You can be loud and you can be wrong. It's hard to be loud and wrong.

• 46:28Speaker 09

  Show me where I'm wrong and I'll, and I'll shut up.

• 46:29Adam Sosnick?

  But, but the point is you're not right, but here we go.

• 46:32Speaker 09

  How, where am I wrong?

• 46:33Adam Sosnick?

  Is Cash Patel lying?

• 46:35Speaker 09

  He's not, 100% he's lying.

• 46:37Adam Sosnick?

  So 100% Cash Patel's a liar?

• 46:39Speaker 09

  From what he said, from what he said, Adam, he was in the administration. He said they had all of it.

• 46:44Adam Sosnick?

  Is, is Dan Bongino a liar?

• 46:47Speaker 09

  Yes, yeah, he did, Adam. Yeah, he did.

• 46:49Adam Sosnick?

  Is Pam Bondi a liar?

• 46:50Speaker 09

  Yes. Blatantly lying in front of our face.

• 46:53Adam Sosnick?

  Is Trump a liar?

• 46:54Speaker 09

  I think so, Adam.

• 46:55Adam Sosnick?

  Is J D Vance?

• 46:56Speaker 09

  I think they're all lying to us, Adam.

• 46:57Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, and so

• 46:58Speaker 09

  Even if it's a little lie, they lie.

• 47:00Adam Sosnick?

  So how about this? They're all liars.

• 47:01Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 47:02Adam Sosnick?

  Who's right? Because you've probably absorbed a lot of content on X. I assume, I know, I know X is your thing.

• 47:08Speaker 09

  No, um.

• 47:09Adam Sosnick?

  Who's right out there? Who's your? Go, you've already gone 99%. Let's go 100. This person, this person, this person. I trust them.

• 47:17Speaker 09

  Adam.

• 47:18Adam Sosnick?

  Who is it?

• 47:18Speaker 09

  I don't, I don't, I don't trust anybody. 100%?

• 47:22Adam Sosnick?

  Who do you give the most trust to?

• 47:23Speaker 09

  Here's my thing.

• 47:24Adam Sosnick?

  Who do you give the most credibility to?

• 47:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Because he's asking you a question. So you're saying those people are lying. If they're lying, who's lying less?

• 47:34Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 47:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's telling the truth?

• 47:36Adam Sosnick?

  You were willing to say that the director of the FBI, the President of the United States are all liars.

• 47:40Patrick Bet-David?

  A hundred percent lying.

• 47:41Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 47:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Cash lying, Bongino lying, Trump you're like, I think he's lying.

• 47:45Adam Sosnick?

  Who's more right than them?

• 47:46Patrick Bet-David?

  If that's a hundred percent, who's a hundred percent telling the truth?

• 47:49Speaker 09

  Well, the, the, the, all the victims that were out there, hold on, all the FBI reports, all the, but like,

• 47:54Adam Sosnick?

  But name names, but name names.

• 47:56Speaker 09

  Virginia Gufray, who, who said, hold on, since we're gonna go back to Prince Andrew, she was underage and the prince was there having sex with me. Time out, time out.

• 48:07Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, no, no, hold on.

• 48:08Speaker 09

  Time out. I believe her and I believe the rest of the victims, Adam, that all of a sudden, we don't know where they are.

• 48:13Adam Sosnick?

  But the victims don't know what the, the top, top Mossad intelligence was. So who do you think knows those answers?

• 48:20Speaker 09

  Adam.

• 48:20Adam Sosnick?

  It's easy to say the victim.

• 48:22Speaker 09

  Hold on, listen to me. Trump, Dan Bongino, Castro, they, they all know what is going on, but.

• 48:28Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not the question, no, no.

• 48:29Adam Sosnick?

  Who do you trust them? Is it Candace? Is it Tucker? Is it Dave Smith? Is it Dan Bilzerian? Who do you think is, this guy knows what he's talking about? Who's that person? Is it you?

• 48:41Speaker 09

  I trust my, for all the stuff that I'm seeing, all the stuff that I'm reading, all the dots that we connect.

• 48:46Patrick Bet-David?

  You think, you think, because to me, um, to me, the, the, the moment, like if you pull up Power vs. Force, Rob, the, the chart, which one of these feelings do you currently have right now? Go, go to second one, yeah, zoom in a little bit.

• 49:06Adam Sosnick?

  In my life?

• 49:06Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, right now, at this specific moment, at this specific moment, and I want you to go to the third column. You know where it says level? So go all the way to the bottom, shame, guilt, apathy, grief, fear, desire, anger, pride, courage, courage, neutral.

• 49:23Speaker 09

  I'm angry. I'm obviously angry.

• 49:25Adam Sosnick?

  Angry patriot.

• 49:26Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way.

• 49:26Adam Sosnick?

  Look at his shirt.

• 49:27Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, but, but by the way.

• 49:29Adam Sosnick?

  I get it.

• 49:30Speaker 09

  Bless you, sir.

• 49:32Patrick Bet-David?

  So, you're angry.

• 49:33Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 49:34Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and how many people you think are feeling that way as well?

• 49:37Adam Sosnick?

  A lot of people.

• 49:37Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think it is?

• 49:39Adam Sosnick?

  From our, from.

• 49:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, from our base.

• 49:41Adam Sosnick?

  From our base, 90% are, are furious.

• 49:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think it's 90%. I think, honestly, I think it's 20 to 30%, okay? And I'll tell you why, and I can kind of walk it through why I think it's 20 to 30%. So.

• 49:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Which, which people here, like where do you put Trump right now on the way he's handling Epstein? How is Trump handling Epstein right now?

• 50:07Adam Sosnick?

  I'd put him in the, uh, the, uh, acceptance and reason category in power.

• 50:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I actually don't. Trump, Trump in this? Yeah, where does Trump, Trump in this right, on the way he's handling the Epstein? Um, would you go fear? I would put fear. He's scared. I think, Tom, where would you put him?

• 50:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, I, I, it's funny you said that. I said, I was about to say fear, or I jump up to pride, demanding and scorn.

• 50:32Patrick Bet-David?

  That's where I'm at.

• 50:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 50:33Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, both of you are wrong. Both parties, like, trust me, I'm angry. I'm not in a right state to decipher what's going on. Because I'm coming from an angry place. You know, like, you know, uh, uh, uh, Tico, where he's at and what we're talking about before. How come we're not, I'm like, how are we feeling? Where are we at? We're in what? We're in guilt, you know, anger, pride. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, when it comes to him, I'm very like, dude. That's right. Yeah, yeah. But guess what? Yeah. Dude, you know, maybe we have to He's having choice. And accept the fact that he's grown up. Yeah. And we have to go there.

• 51:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So for me, when I'm sitting here watching this, this is what I think about. Um, you've been with me in different environments, right? Okay, where do we go to where people stop us non-stop and we can't leave?

• 51:29Adam Sosnick?

  UFC.

• 51:30Patrick Bet-David?

  UFC. Okay, so UFC, if we go to UFC fight, guess what it is? We can't even walk without being stopped, right? Okay, give me the other sport, like what's Baseball. Baseball, Yankees, we go there. Yankees, for sure. Give me where we go, nobody stops us.

• 51:42Adam Sosnick?

  Synagogue.

• 51:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Where do we go that no one stops us? Tom, where do we go that nobody stops us?

• 51:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, we went, we were at F1.

• 51:52Patrick Bet-David?

  We went to F1? Five people stopped us, okay? So I was gonna say New York, but New York was surprisingly, like, people knew No, no, Hampton's, you're talking about, yeah, no, Hampton's was. But, but the point is, if we go in different markets, if I'm in LA, I'm stopped by people that don't like what we talk about. Don't have a conversation. That's right. And, and, you know, he witnessed this one time when we're leaving one of the presidential debates and we're at a Yoshinoya.

• 52:17Adam Sosnick?

  Oh yeah, that was great.

• 52:18Patrick Bet-David?

  So, what's the moral of the story? If we hang out at UFC fights all day, we think we're so popular. We're not.

• 52:29Patrick Bet-David?

  If we only go to Formula One races, we think we have a very small podcast. Damn, we're doing a shitty job. We're not. If we go to, you know, a place where they hate us and what we stand for, like, let's say you and I go and walk in the streets of, I don't know, Chaz, or if we go into most, Berkeley, oh my God, you want to, that's not true. That's not the case. But if you go to a place in Florida, I'm, oh my God, we love you guys. That's also not the case. So if you spend most of your time of social media on X, I hate to say to you, you're brainwashed. I'm just being straight up. If most of the time people are on X, you are absolutely brainwashed. Yep.

• 53:14Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're on Fox News, you're brainwashed. If you're only on CNN, you're brainwashed. If you're only on, you know, certain podcasts, you're brainwashed. If you only read the journal, you're brainwashed. If you only,

• 53:29Patrick Bet-David?

  you have to be able to kind of take that emotion that you're having and like, whoa, lem, lem, worm, like, because 90% you're X, right? So who's on X? Who has, X is not all of America. No. X is 20% of America. That makes it seem like it's 100% of America. It's not. There are a lot of people that don't care about this topic. I do. I got four kids. I care about it. And I also care about the fact that if you tell me you're gonna do something, do it. I'm that guy. So I'm literal. I'm gonna hold you to it. Go through and tell me what you're gonna, even if it's bad news, drop it. I want to process it. But things are directed. So the biggest challenge as we're going through this, if you spend a lot of time on X, you naturally will start hating Israel more and more and more. Naturally, you're going to.

• 54:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Naturally. If you're on X, you're naturally gonna have a certain level of animosity and skepticism towards everything being tied to Israel and Mossad. Naturally, naturally. If you're in Fox News and all you do is work around Fox News all day, you're naturally gonna be pro-Israel because you're there and you hear what they're talking about, right? If you go to a Christian church that has got an Israel flag on the side, you're naturally, you understand, you're like, why did they have the Israel flag next to the American flag? Remember that one time you had a talk about it? You're naturally gonna have that. And, and you have to be able to control that. You know, oh my God. You have to, whoa, whoa, whoa, relax, pump the brakes.

• 55:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Who, well, you know, you, you're defending them. No, I actually don't trust Mossad, but I trust the fact that Israel's motive is Israel first. So do I believe Israel would find a way to get politicians in America to make policies that favors Israel? 100%. But do I think Ukraine would do that? 100%. Do I think Russia would do that? Yes. Do I think Muslims would come and infiltrate our country to be able to produce their own laws? Absolutely. Do I think America will go to other countries to impose capitalism on them? 100%. Do I believe if I go to a certain university, they're gonna tell me that they're the greatest university in the world? 100%.

• 55:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I, Tico's at a campus right now. The only person that he's spoken to at the campus that supports Trump is one person. Really? Out of all, he's had so many debates already. There's only one kid that likes Trump. Everybody else can't stand Trump. At the campus, he's at, I like it, I prepped him for it. He's getting into debates, this is good. So the hardest thing to do here and the best place to be, if you can be in the acceptance, reason, love. Acceptance, reason, love, so hard to be in that. But if you look at the God view of what it is on the left, look at what it is on the left side. Wise, meaningful, reason, understanding, abstraction, right? Look at anger, vengeful.

• 56:28Patrick Bet-David?

  antagonistic hate aggression look at fear punitive frightening fear anxiety withdraw you you kind of have to kind of size yourself up to see where you're at and it's so hard to get at the first level which is courage permitting feasible permitting affirmation empowerment I see some of the guys on X they're posting something you know I saw a video of Nick Fuentes and Nick Fuentes made a video and he said you know I've been called out I can't say the N word anymore because Patrick Bet David yes Patrick Bet David at Turning Point USA got up and he said the reason why he's not willing to have me on is because I say the N word too much and you know what folks I I think it's come time that I have to make certain sacrifices so moving forward I won't be

• 57:11Patrick Bet-David?

  using the N word I think in some kind of a way he says he's right I don't know when he said it I the guys just showed it to me yesterday Brandon did and I reacted to it but you know what I like the way he communicates I think he's a phenomenal communicator if he dropped some of this stuff he would have more of an opening to present his argument and say what he stands for makes sense but to me the more and more we go in this next direction if you spend most of your time on your on X I guarantee for every day you spend more time on X you hate Israel more every day you spend more time on X you think everything's Mossad's fault every day you spend

• 57:52Patrick Bet-David?

  more time you're gonna go to this it it's just the reality of it and you have to find a way to be there and not allowed to 100% influence everything you believe in that is the hardest thing to do it is the hardest thing to do and still know that yes AIPAC does what it does Mossad does what it does CIA does what it does you know by the way you know what you know what's one you know what's one of my biggest concerns in America right now do you know Iran caught 700 Mossad agents in Iran was that 700 or 455 can you can you type up it was it was earlier this year a few months ago Iran caught Mossad agents is the number 455 how many people did they just catch

• 58:37Patrick Bet-David?

  how many Mossad agents did they catch in can you ask the same question on chat GPT chat GPT if you could Rob watch this Vinnie so this this prompted something that I'm very concerned about but but you have to kind of see where there's a challenge here And guys, I really want to transition out of this story to other stories because we've got different things to go to. So let's give this thing a couple more minutes and move on. Look at this. June of 2025, they arrested 700 people over a 12-day span, accused of passing intelligence to Israel. So these are either Mossad operatives, CIA, because you know they're CIA officers, they're CIA agents, and then they're CIA helpers operatives,

• 59:17Patrick Bet-David?

  right? Do you know Mossad's got a couple thousand agents and operatives in Iran? Do you know how many we have? Not a lot. Why do we not have a lot of people in Iran CIA? Actually, simplify why we don't have it. It's harder for CIA to get in there than it is for Mossad agents to get there. Simplify it. Why is that? Well, let's make some assumptions. What percentage of the Mossad agents do you think are Jewish versus want to see bring down the regime? Yeah, no, I get what you're saying. What percentage?

• 59:49Speaker 09

  What you mean, meaning Mossad agents or assets?

• 59:51Patrick Bet-David?

  60, 40 is Iranians that want to see Iran fall. Okay, so they're recruiting Iranians, converting them to help them create asset to drop information to them, right? Wow, did you just catch that fly? Are you Mossad? No. What just happened there?

• 1:00:03Speaker 09

  Holy...

• 1:00:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, and you put the fly right here? I just killed him. What are you, I'm gonna put him? He's still alive, BBD. Okay, but give me a trash.

• 1:00:10Speaker 09

  Time out. First of all, who are you?

• 1:00:12Patrick Bet-David?

  You want some trash?

• 1:00:13Speaker 09

  That was...

• 1:00:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, give me your opinion for a second.

• 1:00:15Speaker 09

  Yeah, by the way, just to clarify, there's Mossad agents and then there's Mossad assets. An agent works for them, and asset is somebody that they turn.

• 1:00:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Think about the question I'm about to ask you. You ready?

• 1:00:27Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 1:00:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Actually, simplify, Tom. You should be able to get this answer fairly quickly, and I know you're under the weather a little bit, but watch this here. Why is it that Mossad is capable of having more intelligence in Iran than American CIA? Well, I think they live right there and socio-ethnically... Mumuruk?

• 1:00:51Speaker 09

  Proximity.

• 1:00:52Patrick Bet-David?

  No, go ahead. They live right there, they're in proximity, and they look like them. And we don't. Yeah, right. So when I was recruited many years ago to go be Delta and to go through things, because I spoke five languages, I have features, middle, there's, I can, you know, there's a lot of things you can do with that, right? You, we can use you in many different ways, right? Yeah, Billy Joe from Alabama is gonna have a tough time in Tehran. We don't have a lot of CIA assets in Iran.

• 1:01:19Patrick Bet-David?

  So if you don't have it, you're America, you're the president, Vinny, what do you do? If I, if I don't have- Iran is one of the top five countries that hates us the most. Some people may say they're number one. Yeah. Okay? Don't you want intel in there? I do. You outsource your weaknesses- So what do you do if we don't have it? You have to recruit other people. So then what, what relationships do you need? Maybe you have an ally that you trust. On an ally to give you that intel. This is so complicated. Yeah. This is so complicated for us to be sitting here thinking about all this other stuff. Where... You send 500 white guys? Let's send 500 black guy CIA to Iran. Salam, holika, man. Here's our, here's our, here's our latest CI agents. What's your name? Tyrone.

• 1:02:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Tyrone? Tyrone Chie? Esme man Tyrone. Esme shon Tyrone, Tyrone, esme pedar chie? It's the worst lie ever. Tyrone Johnson. Tyrone Johnson Chie? My god, my dude. Asghar, ki e in Tyrone Johnson? In pedar sak, shonchi Tyrone Johnson ki as? Man fake mikona mikha? Why you wanna go grill? Tyrone Johnson. Shon Tyrone Johnson? Baradar shon Magic Johnson e? Shon as kocho asti? He's already dead. He's been dead for 20 minutes. Send 500 black CIA agents to him. Go ahead, let's do it. Sup, homie? So where are you from? I'm from Bandar. Yeah, I'm from, you know, I'm from Esfahan. Oh, you're from Esfahan? What part? Exactly.

• 1:02:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Straight out of Compton, Stan. Compton, down the street from, you know- Yeah, what part? 121st Street. That's the point. So there is a part of this, Vinny, that it is so above our pay grade. You kinda, who you gonna say, "I'm gonna get intel from Saudi?" "Am I gonna get intel from Iraq?" Who am I gonna trust to send it? It's, it's not as simple as, "Let me get on X and put a tweet that gets viral and let me ba ba ba." Shit is pretty dirty and nasty. And it's super complicated, so- Okay, so now you don't trust Mossad. Who do you send to Iran to get intel for you? Go ahead. Who's your second person? You go to MI6, more white people? Yeah. But who do you send? Actually, go think about it. Process it. You send Spaniards from Spain? They better be really good. How about French?

• 1:03:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Bourgeoisie, you know, voulez-vous? Who are you gonna send? Italians? Come take all of my country. Who are you gonna send? Who are you gonna send? Actually, process that. Who are we gonna? We're gonna send people from Japan? Let's send Japan. Hey, you're gonna send Chinese? Who are you going to send? Australian? New Zealand? Africans? Let's send people from Lagos. They'll definitely be low-key. Let's send people from South Africa with their accent. Brazil? Who the hell are we gonna send to get intel? That's the part where it's like, okay, guess who has a monopoly on it? Israel. They're down the street. They can't stand Iran. They have access to it.

• 1:04:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't trust them 100%, but at least they're gonna give you intel that you can't get anywhere else anyways. So it's like Catch 22 situation? Bro, it is so... You can't trust them, but you need them. Aw, man, that's such a... It is. This is why this shit is not everybody's job. This is not for everybody. This is... Us outsiders, we can sit here and sell all the stuff that we wanna send, and then go on the inside. And you're like, oh, my God. Like, that intel actually from Iran that we got from Mossad was very helpful. Yep. Okay, um, but I don't trust them. So you know how John Kirakos is like, how do you feel? I don't trust them at all. I believe them. Of course, I do. But guess what? Go find alternative intel. Go ahead. So now you send Greeks? You can't tell a Greek apart from an Iranian.

• 1:05:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course, 100%. Who else looks like them? You're gonna send me? I'm gonna go next week, guys. I think it'd be bad. PPT Podcast's been on break. So we find somebody to replace me. We put a wig on Rob, and Rob becomes me.

• 1:05:16Adam Sosnick?

  Look at that face right there.

• 1:05:17Patrick Bet-David?

  For sure.

• 1:05:18Adam Sosnick?

  That's the guy that's gonna crash the car.

• 1:05:19Speaker 09

  Oh, he saw you.

• 1:05:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Hello.

• 1:05:21Adam Sosnick?

  Remember, and pants.

• 1:05:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:23Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways.

• 1:05:24Adam Sosnick?

  Can I just respond to one thing? By the way, I, the, aside from the Iran Mossad thing, I think everything you said, especially about X, is completely accurate.

• 1:05:36Adam Sosnick?

  So, X, let's talk about X for a second. Do you remember a week ago, they put in the, the input, "Hey, what's going on here?" And then the, the output on X, Gronk, was, "Howl Hitler, F the Jews, this was going to..." It's like, whoa! Do you know how that happened? Take a guess how that happened. They didn't just, Gronk didn't mess up, because whatever your input is, is what you're gonna get out. So what they did is they took everything that lived on X, all the information that lived on X, and put it into Gronk.

• 1:06:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Gronk is a tight end.

• 1:06:07Adam Sosnick?

  My bad.

• 1:06:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Gronk is a...

• 1:06:08Adam Sosnick?

  Guys, I'm trying to make, I'm trying to make political points here, not sort of touch them.

• 1:06:11Speaker 09

  You don't even know the name of the thing that you're talking about.

• 1:06:13Adam Sosnick?

  I'm gonna spike the ball. Gronk is a tight end. Yes. Pay that damn man his money. So the point is this. They took what the X was saying, put it into Gronk, and this is what it came out with. What, Tom, what's the famous phrase, like, uh, famous phrase? Uh, whatever your input is, is what the output will be. Yeah, garbage in, garbage out. Garbage, so bingo! Garbage in, garbage out. Turned out, what's going on on X is a lot of frickin' garbage. A lot of antisemitism, a lot of racism, a lot of horrible stuff. You can make the argument, "Well, Elon Musk said free speech." Cool, I agree with that. Free speech sometimes gets real ugly. And what we all realize from Gronk is there's a lot of people on Twitter, you hang out a lot,

• 1:06:57Adam Sosnick?

  that are saying some not-so-nice things and some not-so-true things.

• 1:07:00Speaker 09

  Well, they have every...

• 1:07:01Adam Sosnick?

  So it turned out, so it turned out that Gronk, because of the input, turned out to be antisemitic, racist, misogynistic, all that fun stuff. And some of that I'm here for. And some of it I totally recognize, it's a massive problem.

• 1:07:14Speaker 09

  Every, every morning, I'm on X, I'm on Fox.

• 1:07:17Adam Sosnick?

  Every morning?

• 1:07:18Speaker 09

  Listen to me, every morning, I wake up, I'm on X, probably the majority of the time. I have the Fox app, I have the CNN app, I have the AP app, hold on, I look at all of them.

• 1:07:26Adam Sosnick?

  What percentage of your, of your mixed media diet do you think comes from X?

• 1:07:29Speaker 09

  My number one is X, okay.

• 1:07:31Adam Sosnick?

  So that explains a lot, by the way.

• 1:07:33Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, but by the way, me too.

• 1:07:35Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Just so you know, like my number one is also X.

• 1:07:38Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, but respectfully, the way your brain processes things is a little bit different.

• 1:07:43Speaker 09

  We want to move on, but here's my question though. If there was no X, if there was no X, would you even know about Mossad being Epstein tied to Mossad? Because on YouTube and all these other places, they will ban your ass.

• 1:07:57Adam Sosnick?

  Pretty sure that information was out there.

• 1:07:58Speaker 09

  No, no, but I'm saying nobody would be talking about, but what I'm saying is if you talked about this or talked about COVID or talked about anything.

• 1:08:04Patrick Bet-David?

  It's been Iran for a while, bro. Movies from the 80s, 90s.

• 1:08:07Adam Sosnick?

  See, I never knew about, I never knew about. Are you better for it or not?

• 1:08:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, no, no. I am all thinking X is a net positive, for sure.

• 1:08:17Adam Sosnick?

  No, I'm saying what Vinnie's digesting on X, is he better for it?

• 1:08:19Patrick Bet-David?

  All I'm saying to you is, if you're around it, it's gonna rub off on you so much that it can lower your calibration to anger, fear, all of that stuff. And you want to be able to go in, get all the shit and take a big shower and go up to reason and say, "All right, man, here's where I'm going to, all right, guys, I'm out of here, I can't, I'm gonna go upstairs and go and go."

• 1:08:40Adam Sosnick?

  Let's not beat around the bush here. Earlier you said one thing, I want to know if you stand by this. Do you think, Vinnie, even if it's 1%, has been brainwashed by what he's consumed on X?

• 1:08:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:08:49Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, how do you feel about that, Vinnie? That you might have been brainwashed?

• 1:08:52Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, we have a different understanding of the word "brainwash."

• 1:08:55Adam Sosnick?

  Explain what "brainwash" means.

• 1:08:57Patrick Bet-David?

  When I was in the army and I watched Saving Private Ryan, and they told me this movie is dedicated to the unit you're a part of, I was brainwashed to be a proud American and a proud hunter for airborne soldier.

• 1:09:08Adam Sosnick?

  So there can be good brainwash and bad?

• 1:09:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Brainwashing's not a bad thing. We brainwash our kids all the damn time. So there is good brainwash, there's bad brainwash. Should wash my brain if it's good.

• 1:09:16Adam Sosnick?

  So is what he's consuming good brainwash or bad brainwash?

• 1:09:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Huh?

• 1:09:19Adam Sosnick?

  Is what he's doing good brainwash or bad brainwash?

• 1:09:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Eventually, like Tom, when I watched Tom and he talks to his daughters, he talks about this one pastor that taught him something many years ago. I don't know what pastor it is, you told me his name one time. He uses the word "resist." He teaches Bailey and Brooke about learning how to resist.

• 1:09:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Resist, what is Bailey gonna do? What is Brooke gonna do? They're attracted to them. Guys, they have to learn how to resist from bad decisions, bad influence. You have to learn as a grown man how to resist bad ideas.

• 1:09:52Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:09:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And to jump to conclusions. It's not an easy thing to do. But anyways, let's continue. We're gonna go to the next topic.

• 1:09:57Adam Sosnick?

  Now that we know that Vinnie's been brainwashed, let's move on to the next topic.

• 1:09:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna go to the next topic, which is-

• 1:10:00Adam Sosnick?

  Had to do that at the end, didn't you?

• 1:10:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna go to the next topic here, which is Adam's top topic. Talking about Obama saying every man needs a gay friend. So Obama goes on his wife's podcast, okay? And they're sitting there having this conversation. And it opens, they covered a lot of different things. Right off the bat, they talked about the divorce. Hey, aren't we supposed to be getting a divorce and all this stuff? Just tell me if this seems like they woke up together in the same bed this morning? The last week? The last month? The last 90 days? Or if they live in two different places? Just watch this, we're cool. Go ahead, Rob.

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• 1:11:04Speaker 01

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• 1:11:10Speaker 02

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• 1:11:13Speaker 03

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• 1:11:29Speaker 01

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• 1:11:32Speaker 04

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• 1:11:37Speaker 14

  Wait, you guys like each other?

• 1:11:39Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, really? That's cool. The rumor mill.

• 1:11:42Speaker 14

  Yeah.

• 1:11:43Speaker 05

  He's my husband, y'all. She turned me back.

• 1:11:50Speaker 05

  Now, don't start.

• 1:11:51Speaker 14

  I can't.

• 1:11:52Speaker 21

  It was touching, y'all, for a while.

• 1:11:54Speaker 14

  It's so nice to have you both in the same room together.

• 1:11:57Speaker 05

  I know, because when we aren't, folks think we're divorced.

• 1:12:02Speaker 21

  These are the kinds of things that I just miss, right? So I don't even know this stuff's going on.

• 1:12:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Right.

• 1:12:08Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:12:08Speaker 21

  And then somebody will mention it to me, and I'm all like, what are you talking about?

• 1:12:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:12Speaker 05

  There hasn't been one moment in our marriage where I...

• 1:12:17Tom Ellsworth?

  No, hang on, hang on, hang on. There hasn't been one moment in our marriage when I thought about quitting. Bull. Every man and woman who has ever been married, you think about quitting. There's a moment you think, things will happen. Yeah, that's such BS. We all have that.

• 1:12:34Adam Sosnick?

  She even said it. She said she hated him.

• 1:12:36Tom Ellsworth?

  She said she hated him for 10 years.

• 1:12:38Adam Sosnick?

  Hold on, are you admitting on camera that you thought about quitting Kim?

• 1:12:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Rob, can you rewind, Rob? Look at how his legs are crossed. Go back to Barack's legs crossed. Do humans, do humans in relationships have big fights? And you say for a split second, is this all worth it? But then you go to your foundation, and you say, yes, it is worth it. And I'm gonna stick through it.

• 1:12:56Adam Sosnick?

  Vinnie, shut up. He's talking.

• 1:12:57Speaker 14

  Adam, just out of curiosity.

• 1:12:58Adam Sosnick?

  I wanna hear Tom speak.

• 1:13:00Speaker 14

  That's a first ever.

• 1:13:02Adam Sosnick?

  I know.

• 1:13:02Speaker 14

  That's a first ever from you.

• 1:13:03Adam Sosnick?

  So let's cherish the moment.

• 1:13:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Barack Obama sitting like that, where is his junk? Where, that, it has to be mushed and mashed.

• 1:13:10Adam Sosnick?

  That's what you interrupted Tom for? He's talking about his marriage?

• 1:13:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom was saying something about the challenge of marriage. But, listen, you know who else is like that? Gavin Newsom.

• 1:13:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, hardcore.

• 1:13:21Patrick Bet-David?

  They sit like that. That takes art. That's...

• 1:13:23Tom Ellsworth?

  That hurts.

• 1:13:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. But anyways, going back to it, what were some of the things that he said?

• 1:13:28Tom Ellsworth?

  No junk.

• 1:13:29Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what, what did they say? What are some of the things? Not that one. If you go to the Sean Ryan picture, the Sean Ryan Newsom picture.

• 1:13:37Tom Ellsworth?

  It's so condensed.

• 1:13:37Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the one you wanna look at. So, but let me go to this here. Let me go to this here. Let me go to this here. So, they had this conversation. I'll send it to you in a minute. Don't worry about it.

• 1:13:46Adam Sosnick?

  It's a killer crossover right there. I get that.

• 1:13:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so he was on, and if you look at the podcast from the beginning, yeah. Where are they? Where are they? So. They're in there, Vinny. So he goes on a podcast, they openly talk about the divorce, okay? That people think we're getting a divorce and they're joking about it. And Obama said a few things, one of the things he talked about was about young men and daughters and I don't know, Rob, I don't know if this is the one or not.

• 1:14:15Speaker 17

  I have it.

• 1:14:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You know which one I'm talking about?

• 1:14:16Speaker 17

  Where they talk about progressives, Democrats and young men?

• 1:14:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he was talking about, it was actually very, it was going in the right direction of a point and then he talks about every man needs a gay friend. I'm like, oh, you were, you were making a very good point. And then you say, you know, this is the one where he says, for those of you that don't have sons, for those of you that don't have sons, Rob, is this the one? I just sent you the clip on Instagram. He talks about for those of you that don't have sons, that only have daughters, which he's talking about himself. You know, we need men. He's making the point of parents who have only girls, they need boys to become boys because our daughters, you know, they want to have, they want to have a relationship. I think that's one right there. Play that clip, Rob, if you could, go for it.

• 1:15:03Speaker 21

  Those of you who do not have sons, so Emma, we are rooting for you because those of us with daughters.

• 1:15:11Speaker 05

  We need good men.

• 1:15:12Speaker 21

  We've got to have good guys out there, not necessarily to get married, but to make sure that it, what we, what we're learning, I think, is that when we don't think about boys and, and just assume they're going to be okay because they've been running the world and, you know, they've got all the advantages relative to the girls and all of which has historically been true in all kinds of ways. But precisely because of that, if you're not thinking about what's, what's happening to boys and how are they being raised, then that can actually hurt women. And I would argue that some of the

• 1:15:55Patrick Bet-David?

  He's telling the truth, he doesn't know how to say it.

• 1:15:56Speaker 21

  Broad political trends we've seen, not just in this country, but around the world, have to do with this sense of, you know.

• 1:16:06Speaker 21

  Boys, men not feeling as if they are seen, seeing, feeling as if they count. And that then makes them more interested in appeals by folks who say, you know what? The reason you don't feel respected is because women have been doing this, or this group has been doing this, or this, that group's been doing this.

• 1:16:31Speaker 09

  That group is someone LGBTQ now, right?

• 1:16:33Speaker 21

  Hundred percent. And, and that is not a, that's not a healthy place to be. For those of you who do not have sons.

• 1:16:40Speaker 09

  Okay, so Vinny, did you watch any of the clips between the two of them? I just watched the one, and I sent it to Rob, Pat. I, I'm being, I don't want, I just watched like three or four clips. The one that I sent Rob was the one where he says, every, every guy, did I send it to Rob? Needs an LGBTQ friend. I think I put it in the actual group, did I put it in the group chat? Oh yeah, no, Rob, I did, I slacked it to you. It's on, by defined L's. Yeah, he just says, men need a gay friend to show empathy and kindness. By the way, you need that person in your friend group. Like, so if you have a boy who is gay or non-binary. Do you have that clip or no, Rob? I do. Yeah. This is it.

• 1:17:18Speaker 03

  Bring a gay friend.

• 1:17:20Speaker 21

  I had a gay professor in college. At a time when openly gay folks still weren't out there. Who became one of my favorite professors. You need that.

• 1:17:34Speaker 09

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:17:34Speaker 21

  To show empathy and kindness. And by the way, you need that person in your friend group. So that if you then have a boy who is, who's, who's, who's gay, or, or non-binary, or whatever, they have somebody that they can go, okay, I'm not alone in this.

• 1:17:50Speaker 20

  Yeah.

• 1:17:51Speaker 21

  Right?

• 1:17:53Speaker 09

  So, I, I'm, listen, just off the podcast alone, I'm not an expert, but just going off of body language and seeing them together, and then making the jokes about it with her brother, who I believe is in the LGBTQ community. Yeah, we go out on a limb and say that the flamboyant guy is an ally. What is it, he's an ally? I think that's fair to say. Yeah, he's an ally. I just, I don't, and again. I just don't, I'm not buying it. That looked like a group that hasn't been around each other for a while. I respect, you know, the stuff with the, you know, boys and we need to have them getting out there more. But mind you, when he's talking about having that gay friend and the gay professor and all that stuff, let's not forget what Barack was writing letters in college to his, uh, his, his love, his friend, Tom?

• 1:18:37Speaker 09

  And where he's saying he was fantasizing about sleeping with men on a daily basis. So this is the same guy, and by the way, to each his own, he does whatever, but I'm just not. Do you think, when's the last time you think that they were in the same room together off of that vibe, that video?

• 1:18:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, the energy I got, I've been around couples a lot when I'm sitting down with the insurance company, PHP, and I sit down with them and I get a feeling, how they sit next to each other, both legs being crossed the other way. And, you know, those who are extremely comfortable with each other, those who are spending, you can feel the energy, 100%. That was an energy of, they're not living together. That was an energy of, we have a grown relationship, we've separated, I live in a different place, you live in a different place. We have two different lives. That's the energy I got there, okay? And I, a part of me, who is a big pro-family guy, I love seeing it. I think it's good, you know?

• 1:19:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't agree with a lot of stuff with Obama. And he was a big contributor to dividing the country in many different ways. But I think he's a guy that's probably, in his circles, probably a good guy. In his circle, like think about if he's in his own community. And he's probably gone through a lot of shit as well, you know, of being where he's at. It's not easy being a president. I never liked the Michelle Obama victimhood language type of stuff. I even gave feedback saying, "Go back to the videos you used to dance and be happy." Like, go back to it, you can do that, we don't have to agree politically. I still want to find a way for us to... Be able to hear each other out and disagree on policies and I want to see them be together.

• 1:20:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't root for them to not make it. You want to see them make it. However, body language, these guys haven't been living together for a long time. I mean, you know, when he's going and having breakfast with his girls and the wife is not there and she's going, he's going to funerals and traditional presidential, you know, things that you have to be a part of and she's not there. At Jimmy Carter's funeral, maybe not Obama, Trump's, I get it, but Carter's, little weird. And if they do get a divorce, great, announce it, move on. It's a 2025 is very different than 1984 divorce.

• 1:20:49Speaker 09

  Do you remember, just really quick, when's the last time we even saw them together? When's before this? Anybody even like?

• 1:20:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Birthday photo.

• 1:20:58Speaker 09

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. And then before that, who knows?

• 1:21:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Rough birthday picture.

• 1:21:03Tom Ellsworth?

  No, they've been behind the scenes and they're rolling him out right now because New Jersey was really close in the election 24. We just had presidential election. It really closed in on conservatives, not just Trump and the Trump wave. He led it, but there's conservatism that was rising in New Jersey after all those years of blue state rule and taxes. And they've rolled out him now trying to help candidates in New Jersey. And he was at a massive fundraiser trying to help them get momentum. Because now and a year from now, they need to generate a big war chest momentum to go into midterms. And New Jersey supposedly is weak in a couple congressional seats. So they rolled him out in New Jersey. I haven't seen him in forever.

• 1:21:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that the message of him giving to Democrats to toughen up, Rob?

• 1:21:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, sir.

• 1:21:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you play that and then go to Whoopi Goldberg and then I'm going to go to Adam?

• 1:21:51Speaker 09

  When is the last time you heard this guy?

• 1:21:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:21:54Speaker 22

  He said, I think it's going to require a little bit less navel gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. It's going to require Democrats to just toughen up. Later, he says he's been surprised by progressive liberals who stood for all kinds of stuff, who seem to be kind of cowed and intimidated and shrinking away. And then he called out university presidents where he said, I've said if your core If your core value is to teach, you may teach without compromising values of academic independence. You may lose some grant money temporarily. That's why you have big endowments.

• 1:22:35Speaker 23

  I would say with the DNC, you know, he asked people to give money to DNC. I would say that donors are holding back and giving money to the DNC until the DNC shows them that they know how to spend that money wisely. And messaging properly in order to win elections. And they're not seeing that right now. So, you know, I would love to know who President Obama is talking to here. If he was talking to the people in that room, he's absolutely right. That was Ken Martin, that was Phil Murphy. He's absolutely right. Those people need to stand up and be a little bit more tough. If he's talking to the rest of us, we're waiting anxiously for them to do that.

• 1:23:08Speaker 22

  Well, but here's what he says to you. Stop looking for the quick fix. Stop looking for the Messiah. You have great candidates running races right now. He's talked specifically about gubernatorial races in New Jersey and Virginia. People who are pragmatic, common sense, have a desire to help people.

• 1:23:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Then there's Mark Cuban jumps on the bandwagon. You know, Mark Cuban says a bunch of stuff about Democrats and Trumps. I don't know if you saw that one or not. If you want to play that.

• 1:23:35Speaker 17

  Oh, no, I'm sorry, that was Mark.

• 1:23:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Mark Cuban's cousin or something. That did not look like a mark.

• 1:23:40Speaker 17

  I only have him.

• 1:23:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Cuban mark, but.

• 1:23:42Tom Ellsworth?

  So suddenly Obama shows up and was kind of giving a lecture a little bit.

• 1:23:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, do you have the Mark Cuban clip?

• 1:23:47Speaker 17

  I don't, I have Whoopi Goldberg, I have Charlamagne, both of them, but I don't have the Mark Cuban.

• 1:23:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to Charlamagne, then go to Whoopi. Here's Charlamagne.

• 1:23:56Speaker 15

  It's mind boggling to me when I hear people like President Obama say things that regular, everyday people been saying for years. We've been saying Democrats were cowards for a decade. We've been saying Democrats need to toughen up. And that cowardice is, you know, why we're in the position that we're in now. And I can give countless examples of Democrats needing to show a spine. Like, for example, they should have told Biden that he was going to be a one-term president. It wasn't up to him. So it's just wild to hear President Obama say that now as if Democrats haven't been cowards for the past decade.

• 1:24:26Patrick Bet-David?

  So now it's Whoopi. Whoopi sees this stuff, gets upset at what Obama said. And here's what Whoopi had to say. Beautiful hair, David, but go ahead. Play this clip by Whoopi.

• 1:24:34Speaker 22

  Okay, so let me remind everybody who is out in the front lines marching.

• 1:24:40Speaker 24

  When we had the giant marches that went on. It was the people. The people went out. They were not navel gazing. It was older people who were saying, "Why are you touching my social security?" It was not people whining. It was about people saying, "Why are you taking these rights from my child when my child was born here?" This has not been about Democrats laying back. This has been about y'all. This has been about y'all.

• 1:25:09Patrick Bet-David?

  The audience is all to do, they're like, "Do we clap?"

• 1:25:12Speaker 24

  Their messaging was always the same. Democrats have been angry at what this man tried to do the last time. They've been angry this time. So I, with much due respect to you both, I believe you are pointing the finger at the wrong person when you say Democrats.

• 1:25:30Speaker 05

  Are you delineating between voters and elected officials?

• 1:25:32Speaker 24

  Yes, I am.

• 1:25:33Speaker 05

  You're saying that, because I agree, voters are very impassioned.

• 1:25:36Speaker 24

  Voters, and when you say Democrats, he's talking to us, saying our messaging is bad.

• 1:25:41Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, you know what she sounds like? She sounds like the way MAGA feels with Trump when he talks about Epstein.

• 1:25:50Patrick Bet-David?

  How upset they are at Obama, at Trump about Epstein. The Democrats are upset at Obama because they're saying, "You're doing this." They're putting the responsibility on him, right? On the messaging here. Adam, your thoughts on this when you see, you know, what Whoopi, Obama, all these guys here are saying about the Democrats?

• 1:26:07Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so let's start with the fact that we started with the conversation that they had just seen each other for the first time and whatever.

• 1:26:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:26:14Adam Sosnick?

  So Barack Obama is gay. That's the narrative. Michelle Obama's a man. They're getting divorced. She never even had the kid. Show me one pregnancy picture. All this speculation out there. Right? It's fun to go down this rabbit hole as we just learned in the previous segment. Or maybe, he's just a straight guy, and she's a woman, and they got together, and they had a family, and they had kids. That's probably the truth, but it's a lot more fun to call her a man. It's a lot more fun to call her Big Mick. It's a lot more fun to speculate. Mike. My bad. You know, I gotta get on the, on the same wavelength as you guys, as the, as the rabbit hole crew. You can look it up on Gronk. Okay.

• 1:26:58Speaker 09

  On a Rob Gronkowski app.

• 1:27:00Adam Sosnick?

  You know, maybe, uh, she's a trans man and he's a gay guy and it's all an act and they all got it put together and they did this. Or maybe the reality is they're just a married couple going through some normal stuff. I don't know. Uh, I think the truth is boring and I think the rabbit hole is a lot more fun. I'm just more on the side of truth. I could be wrong. She could be a chicks with dick crew. I don't know. But I'm just speculating as we always, I'm just asking questions, guys. You are. I'm just asking questions.

• 1:27:29Speaker 09

  But I mean, but if you listen to Larry Sinclair, Adam, and Obama's letters to his girlfriend saying he fantasizes about, I don't, you're a heterosexual male. I know that, you know, online.

• 1:27:38Adam Sosnick?

  Allegedly.

• 1:27:38Speaker 09

  But Adam, have you ever written letters to your girlfriend in high, in college saying, I think about sleeping with men every day? Then you have Larry Sinclair who went in front of Congress and said, and affidavit, and took a lie detector test and said, when Obama was in like, growing up in the politic world, I would do drugs with him and come sleep with him in a hotel. That, I don't believe the Big Mike stuff, but that stuff is on.

• 1:28:01Adam Sosnick?

  But that, that's actually a perfect example. So on one hand you have married, family, two kids, been around the public media, been presidency, White House, evidence, evidence, evidence, evidence, evidence of that they're just a normal married couple. Yeah. And then you have some weird crackhead dude who's like, ah, I, I heard he likes some dick. And then it's like, all right, well, obviously that guy's correct.

• 1:28:23Speaker 09

  So, so this guy just had a nowhere.

• 1:28:25Adam Sosnick?

  That's just a case.

• 1:28:25Speaker 09

  So this guy came out of nowhere.

• 1:28:28Adam Sosnick?

  I'm just saying it's a lot more fun to go on the Larry Sinclair rabbit hole. It's a lot less fun to look at reality in the face.

• 1:28:33Speaker 09

  What about the letter zero to his?

• 1:28:34Adam Sosnick?

  No, I get it.

• 1:28:35Speaker 09

  What about the letter zero?

• 1:28:36Adam Sosnick?

  Vinnie, we get it. You've gone down.

• 1:28:37Speaker 09

  Adam, have you ever, Adam, is there, you just believe everything, like everybody, you believe the narrative. You, you should make a shirt that says, I believe the narrative. That's who you are.

• 1:28:46Adam Sosnick?

  You should make a shirt that says, I'm a theorist. I'm a C theorist.

• 1:28:51Speaker 09

  I'm an angry patriot, I'm an angry patriot, but anyway.

• 1:28:53Adam Sosnick?

  We just learned in the previous segment, when you're angry, you're not rational.

• 1:28:56Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about what Whoopi Goldberg thinks?

• 1:28:57Adam Sosnick?

  So, forget about Whoopi Goldberg. I, I think she's irrelevant. I'll tell you what I do think though. When Barack Obama called out the Democratic Party for being soft. And basically being gay as hell, I think he's absolutely right. What I'll tell you is this, he mentioned the fact that he had two daughters and that he's hoping and praying when he speaks with friends and family, that they find good men. Because Barack Obama knows that the type of men that his daughter are associating with are weak, are feminine, are not masculine. And because those types of attributes are with one party and one party only, the MAGA conservative base. Those are real men.

• 1:29:36Adam Sosnick?

  Show me men in the Democratic Party, I'll show you a guy who's masquerading as a trans activist.

• 1:29:43Speaker 09

  You mean Tim Walz isn't a tough guy?

• 1:29:45Adam Sosnick?

  Tampon Tim is probably not the toughest guy. So what he's basically saying is, man, I'm a Democrat, but I would love my daughters to be with an actual, strong, conservative man with values and principles. He's not going to come out and say that, but that's what he means. So the next question is, what's worse for society? Strong men and weaker women, or strong women and weaker men? What's worse?

• 1:30:12Speaker 09

  The weaker men, obviously.

• 1:30:13Adam Sosnick?

  100%.

• 1:30:14Speaker 09

  Thousand percent.

• 1:30:15Adam Sosnick?

  We have millennia of men being strong, the dominant patriarchy, and women being the nurturing matriarchy, having kids and being sort of subservient to men. That's built society. Now they flipped it. Women are the strong ones, down with the patriarchy, who runs the world, girls, the future is feminine. And now there's a lot of confused men out there putting on dresses and Obama's looking at it being like, I kind of caused this by lighting the White House LGBT colors. I kind of caused this by doing gay marriage. I kind of caused this by saying, hey, let's stop at the gay marriage thing. No, let's continue into trans world and trans psychopathy. So I think there's a part of Obama that's looking at everything and basically going.

• 1:31:01Adam Sosnick?

  Some of this is on me. So, uh, but I know that you want Trump to go to jail, so.

• 1:31:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I hear all that. Adam, Adam, I hear all that. And, you know, some of that I, I agree with. What happened is Obama went out and kind of lectured everybody after being quiet and off to the side. And I don't agree with Whoopi Goldberg's positions, but I think there is a certain purity and truth in her response. She is offended and she is saying to the ruling class, the voters were out there protesting, we were out there marching, and we're a little offended that you're lecturing us. And you know what? I don't want to be lectured. And I don't want you to push back on me. I, I don't agree with her and her positions, but I think that's her response.

• 1:31:49Tom Ellsworth?

  And what Pat commented was, isn't that what a lot of MAGA people are saying is saying, hang on, you know what? You're our guy, Trump. Whoopi, you're our guy, Obama. Don't lecture me, Obama.

• 1:32:02Adam Sosnick?

  Big Mike, you're our guy.

• 1:32:03Tom Ellsworth?

  We were out there, and now the MAGA is out there saying, don't lecture me on this. I'm upset and offended.

• 1:32:08Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, I just said, this is probably the weirdest podcast we've done. Vinnie has basically been calling for Trump to go to jail. He says, Dan Bongino, hold on, Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi, all liars.

• 1:32:19Speaker 09

  Notice how he's twisting that I'm saying Trump should go to jail.

• 1:32:21Adam Sosnick?

  We can run the tape back, you called them all liars.

• 1:32:23Speaker 09

  If he was doing anything illegal, everybody should go to jail.

• 1:32:26Adam Sosnick?

  Tom is defending Whoopi Goldberg.

• 1:32:27Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not defending, I am not defending Whoopi. I said, I understand her response.

• 1:32:32Adam Sosnick?

  Patrick is defending the Mossad. Here I am, defending our allies, Donald Trump, and calling Obama gay as hell.

• 1:32:39Tom Ellsworth?

  And Adam, please notice, no one's defending you.

• 1:32:43Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, what I'm doing is.

• 1:32:44Adam Sosnick?

  Here's the difference. I don't give a shit. I'll defend myself.

• 1:32:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you guys miss the entire segment in the podcast where I'm catching all these mosquito drones that Mossad sent our way?

• 1:32:53Adam Sosnick?

  We call them.

• 1:32:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Is that listening?

• 1:32:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, hey, look at me, I'm talking to you. Hey, stop it. Stop it.

• 1:33:00Adam Sosnick?

  It's like karate. PBD, look at me.

• 1:33:02Tom Ellsworth?

  It's like karate.

• 1:33:02Adam Sosnick?

  PBD, look at me for a second. I brought them.

• 1:33:06Tom Ellsworth?

  I brought the flying mosquitoes.

• 1:33:07Patrick Bet-David?

  We know.

• 1:33:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Check the, check the, the bugs.

• 1:33:10Adam Sosnick?

  They're mosquitoes, M O S S.

• 1:33:12Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. Oh my God. Okay, we have like.

• 1:33:17Tom Ellsworth?

  The Autopen?

• 1:33:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Ah, ba ba ba ba ba. Let me see where I want to go. I want to go to a business story. Now, Tom, what business story do you have that we can get into? I want to go purely into a business story right now. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Okay, Chinese buyers grabbing up American homes. I'm going to go into that one, Tom, and I'm coming to you and Vinnie, okay? Uh, Vinnie, you put that, that's one of the stories you have an opinion on. So, uh, Chinese buyers grabbing up American homes. Investors significantly increased their home purchase with National Association of Realtors, N A R, reporting an eighty-three percent surge from seven and a half billion dollars to thirteen point seven billion dollars between April twenty twenty four and March of twenty twenty five, buying eleven thousand seven hundred homes at an average price of one point one six eight million dollars. Damn.

• 1:33:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Kashif and Saudi, uh, co-founder of Jwai I Q I Realtor Technologies Group told Bloomberg that Chinese buyers were more likely to pay in all cash than any other group buyers with thirty-six percent of purchasing California, nine percent in New York. The N A R reported highlighted significant nationals as the largest group of foreign buyers, followed by ten thousand nine hundred properties purchased by Canadians, sixty-two hundred Mexicans, forty-seven hundred Indians, while I'm sorry noted that the wealthy Chinese investors view the housing market a safe haven amid China's property sector downturn with new home prices falling four point seven percent. Rob, is this the clip with him talking about it?

• 1:34:37Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, yes, sir.

• 1:34:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:34:38Speaker 14

  The National Association of Realtors says Chinese buyers spent just about fourteen billion dollars on US houses and real estate.

• 1:34:47Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:34:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, you can pause it. Tom, your thoughts on this story?

• 1:34:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, on one hand, eh, it's just the rest of the world finds US real estate to be a good investment, and they're going to be renting it back to the rest of us. So you look at it that way. On the other hand, along with China buying up all this farmland and the Trump administration doing the right thing and trying to put it into position for them to unbuy it. And unwind unwind those transactions. You know, I'm I'm a little unnerved to have China buying properties. I want to know where the properties are because let's face it. They want a spy network in the United States and they want to cause havoc in the United States. And that's what they were doing with the farmland. We went into that on the various levels that could do it.

• 1:35:33Tom Ellsworth?

  And now if they're if it's Chinese investors and all they're doing is buying property like the rest of the world, then it looks OK on one hand, but I don't trust that. I think there's a I think there's motives that are underneath it, especially when they buy stuff that are near intelligence or military facilities because they want to spy on us.

• 1:35:54Speaker 09

  Oh, and and Tom, and again, my biggest word, I think, for 2025 has accountability. OK, China does whatever the hell they want and nobody could stop them. Trump, thank God, he's, you know, with the tariffs and he's kind of holding the foot to the fire. I mean, the last time he was doing this trade war with China, Tom, what happened? What what leaked from a lab that we owned under Obama? Weird with Dr. Fauci, what? Covid, oh, yeah, that's right. And destroyed the world. OK, they do backdoor deals, all this stuff with Joe, Joe and Hunter Biden, spy balloons, they do whatever the hell they want. And then the number was Pat, just so the audience knows, 14 billion dollars. OK, no mortgage paid in full. And then that's 82.6% spike from the year before.

• 1:36:37Speaker 09

  OK, and like I said, with the with the the terrorists, I'm all cool. But playing footsie with this country who's trying to replace us, I'm I'm done with it. I'm just I'm curious, Tom. When are we going to start treating China like the enemy that it is? I'm I'm being I'm being genuine with you. Besides this terrorist stuff, OK, we're hitting them where it hurts. But, you know, they poisoned our kids with fentanyl, Tom. They flood the markets with freaking garbage products. They spy on us. They're buying.

• 1:37:02Tom Ellsworth?

  They try to sneak pathogens in to destroy entire crops.

• 1:37:07Speaker 09

  And OK, and and that's.

• 1:37:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Treat them as an enemy combatant.

• 1:37:11Speaker 09

  Yes, and and that is it, Tom. So, and Pat, is it worth it? Meaning, you know where I stand, this relationship has to come to a to a head. OK, if a foreign nation dropped bombs on us, it's war. But when they silently do it with influence, with cash, with Covid releasing, like you said, we stopped those two.

• 1:37:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Believe it or not, I don't actually think this is. Any kind of foreign influence, I don't. And I would tell you, if the government is buying land here, near our military bases, yes, that's very concerning. If individual investors are buying up homes.

• 1:37:48Speaker 09

  How do you know, how can you trust that they're not, they're not?

• 1:37:51Adam Sosnick?

  That's what I said, if it's investors, that's one thing, but if it's the government and these homes are next door to military facilities, then they, they're trying to build.

• 1:38:00Speaker 09

  These are two people from China coming here to buy land.

• 1:38:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, it's a shit show in China right now.

• 1:38:05Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 1:38:05Patrick Bet-David?

  So if you're, if you're somebody that's got money in China, and one thing in China is, believe it or not, they don't invest into their stock market a lot.

• 1:38:11Speaker 09

  They don't?

• 1:38:12Patrick Bet-David?

  No, not at all. They're not a stock market audience. If you type in, Rob, average Chinese investors, why do average Chinese investors not invest into their stock market?

• 1:38:23Speaker 09

  That's, that's interesting.

• 1:38:24Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not, they're real estate. They're all about real estate and they're cash people. They have a very different philosophy when it comes on to money. They're, they're not, uh, uh, let me see if it's gonna show to you here, there's gonna be, I hope there's like data that comes up.

• 1:38:37Speaker 09

  Well, you might want to be drunk.

• 1:38:38Patrick Bet-David?

  That is.

• 1:38:41Adam Sosnick?

  This guy, check out his comedy show coming out soon.

• 1:38:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Key reasons, lack of trust in the market, so they don't, they're, they're the, one of the lowest percentage of nations that invest into their own stock market. So lack of trust in the market, poor historical performance, um, speculative mindset, risk aversion, but they do believe in real estate in a big way. Preference for real estate, Chinese investors overwhelmingly favor property as a wealth building tool due to rapid urbanization, historical high returns, strong belief in real estate as a safer, more tangible investment. So they're not going that route. I'm not surprised that they're taking their money and buying up stuff here. Do I like them being able to do it? No. Do I want any US, Chinese government to buy up a bunch of land around our military base?

• 1:39:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Zero whatsoever, zero. That's my concern, but it is, it is a pattern that, uh, people are, uh, uh, looking into.

• 1:39:38Adam Sosnick?

  I'll give you something.

• 1:39:38Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so you have something on this?

• 1:39:41Adam Sosnick?

  I think what's going on here is, is this, everything's better in America. Uh, you don't hear stories about Americans going all over the world, trying to buy all the different property and trying to invest in other things. No, you hear stories about everyone trying to make their way in America. And the, the, the best thing about America is almost the worst thing about America, and that's called freedom. Anyone from anywhere can eventually get here and buy whatever they want. Now, I'm not an advocate of Chinese officials buying farmland next to military bases. But if Chinese investors want to buy things, that's more power to you. If Muslims want to come here and become citizens and move in here and want to implement Sharia law in Dearborn or in Minneapolis or in Houston, it's kind of their right to do it. Not a fan of it, but welcome to America.

• 1:40:23Adam Sosnick?

  If Mexicans want to come here and wave the Mexican flag and say how much they hate America, and then we say, "Go back to Mexico," they go, "No, I want to stay in America." They have the freedom to do that. You know, if Argentinians and Venezuelans and Dominicans and all my friends in Miami want to basically say, "I can't put my money in countries I don't trust, so I'm going to buy all the property in Miami," that's their freedom to do it. Everyone wants to get to America. Everyone wants to invest in America. Everyone wants to put their money in the American stock market, in real estate market. That's the beauty of America. And what we need to recognize is everyone from all around the world is taking advantage of America. But when they ask them to go home to their place, they say, "No, I don't want to go back there. I want to stay here." So at some point, this melting pot, people are going to have to recognize

• 1:41:06Adam Sosnick?

  that they're going to have to get in line with American values, or they're going to have to get the hell out.

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• 1:42:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, got it. Alright, so border crossing plummet to historic lows. Trump's enforcement policy yield big results. By the way, this was one of their top three commitments they made in Trump 47 Promise, the top 20 promises they made about border crossing. Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

• 1:42:24Speaker 27

  So tonight, new border data for the month of June highlights the lowest month of encounters ever recorded. Customs and Border Protection says it is the second month in a row of zero releases of illegal aliens into the US compared to almost 28,000 releases in June of last year.

• 1:42:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's progress, historic type of numbers that we're talking about, right? On immigration. Then, at the same time, Rob, is this a different clip? This is regarding the ICE assaults. Go for it. Oh, this is the one that's up 830%? Yes, sir. Go ahead and play this clip.

• 1:43:04Speaker 28

  Against ICE, Kristi Noem said this, "Our brave ICE law enforcement are now facing an 830% increase in assaults against them. This new data reflects the violence against our law enforcement in cities across the country in the last few weeks. Politicians across the country, regardless of political stripe, must condemn this. Gavin Newsom, we're looking at you, absolutely."

• 1:43:25Speaker 29

  And that increase, the 830%, is just since Donald Trump has taken office in the second term. So it was January 21st through July 14th. And now, because she says, or other Republicans are saying because of these Democratic politicians and the mainstream media spreading lies and fake stories, this hate and this violence continues to stir throughout different cities, especially in these liberal cities where they're going after ICE. They're doxing ICE members, then people show up at the ICE members' houses, they threaten their family members, they dumped trash in one of the ICE officers' front yard, threatening family members. You have that marijuana farm, and the media is trying to say that this guy, one of the

• 1:44:07Speaker 29

  illegals, died at the hands of law enforcement, which is not true. The guy climbed up, what, 30 feet, and then fell? And unfortunately, someone did lose their life, but that... That person was running from the police. But yet, the ICE officers rescued 14 little children who were working on this marijuana farm. Would you want your child working there? So they're doing great work. They're arresting violent criminals. You've seen all the rap sheets. We're talking about child predators. We're talking about murderers. We're talking about people who hit and run, all kinds of bringing drugs into our country.

• 1:44:40Speaker 06

  The fact is, real quick, Brian, is they're serving warrants. And any other American, if you have a loved one that you love and care about that has committed a crime, and you don't want them to go to jail, you can't prohibit an operation. They would be charged with obstruction of justice. And so it's one thing for the Democrats to say it, but it's another thing for people to actually go out there on the scene, throw rocks, shoot guns, which we've reported as well, and stop the operation. You gotta charge-

• 1:45:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom, thoughts? So I think Kristi Noem is absolutely right. The media is fanning the flames and making it worse, the mainstream media. But what this is, is defund the police all over again. If you listen very, very carefully to what some of the Democrats are saying on this. This is defund the police, where they don't want them to go out and serve the warrants and arrest the people, point one. But point two, this is happening in areas where it's a really bad visual. Where you said, hey, we're gonna go get the criminals, we're gonna get the people that have rap sheets, we're gonna have people that have jumped bail, we're gonna go find all these people, and we're gonna deport you because you're bad, we know you're bad,

• 1:45:51Tom Ellsworth?

  and you're out of here. And then you're going into farm country, and it just is a... I personally thought it was a bad look to be, you know, shooting tear gas in an open field where you had migrant workers. Now, if one of those was a known criminal on one side and working on that farm on the other side, then you go up there, that guy in the red shirt on the left, we have a warrant for him, you go arrest him. But this, you know, it looked like raids. When you're on this farm and it just was not a good look.

• 1:46:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Now, I absolutely think that the doxing of federal workers who have a job in law enforcement, they are doing a job. You don't dox the officer because you don't like the chief of police or the mayor's policies that have been given to the chief of police. You don't dox the workers because you don't like Kristi Noem taking orders from the President of the United States and putting in a policy. You don't dox the workers that are doing their job in law enforcement. They woke up one day and they were told, "Vinnie, this is the operation. We're gonna go out here, you're gonna do this and this and this. Get together with team number seven, 10 guys and gals on there that you already know.

• 1:47:16Tom Ellsworth?

  You're gonna go out and you're gonna do this. That's your assignment today." What do you say? "Okay, we'll go do it."

• 1:47:20Speaker 09

  That's my job.

• 1:47:21Tom Ellsworth?

  And so now Vinnie gets doxed and they're coming to your house. They better be careful because you're coming to the house and you're getting really close to crossing that front door. And when you cross Vinnie's front door and threaten his family because he's a doxed worker, you're gonna catch a bullet. And that is what I think is the horrible outcome, but I think that's the outcome that Dems want. They want a dead body on Vinnie's porch.

• 1:47:50Speaker 09

  Exactly. I was just gonna say that. They want that spark that's gonna set the fire to do like to riot, to do the whole George Floyd situation.

• 1:47:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Remember Betty.

• 1:48:01Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 1:48:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinnie, Vinnie the Ice Guy shot her. Yeah. When she came at the crowbar through his front door and he's got a two-year-old son.

• 1:48:07Speaker 09

  Yeah, exactly. But I don't know, like, let's be honest. We are in the position that we're in with all these people here, all the, all the, don't get me wrong, it's been happening forever, but the past four years, the numbers are anywhere from 18 to 20 million illegal people. The door was wide open, wide open, and everybody came in, okay? Trump? Ice.

• 1:48:30Adam Sosnick?

  Excuse me, there was no door.

• 1:48:31Speaker 09

  Yeah, thank you, Tom. Yeah, it was just a barn. It was just a barn.

• 1:48:34Adam Sosnick?

  The whole thing was open.

• 1:48:35Speaker 09

  Everything's open. So he's trying to fix the problem. Obviously, it's not going to be perfect. But if we go to the root of the problem, the word illegal, that's what a lot of these freaking people, including Democrats, miss. Illegal, Tom, when you talk about crime, the first thing you did when you came to America was you committed a crime, okay? Plain and simple. I'm sorry if you've been here for a while, if you've been here for two years, and you're kind of being a good person, you're trying to do it, but the rules are the rules and the law is the law. Yes, I, you know, they should start to shift something, and again, I think you, you're the first person that said it, where you're like, if you've been here for five years, if you've been here for 10 years, you're paying taxes, you're doing your thing, what'd you say, Pat?

• 1:49:17Speaker 09

  Like, a little penalty, pay a penalty, do some back pay, you get to stay. But that system, I don't think, are they anywhere near? I think Trump is talking about it a couple of days ago, Rob, if I'm not mistaken. They're trying to figure out something for the people, Pat, the farmers, whoever that have been here. But I'm sorry, I'm sorry if you committed, you know, a murder 30 years ago, and now they come in and grab you. I'm sorry. You, the murder, the crime, still happened. When you come to the country illegally, I'm so sorry. My heart hurts for you, but you gotta go, because everybody else is here, didn't break the law. Period. That's it. Change the system. Change something. I don't know.

• 1:49:55Adam Sosnick?

  Adam.

• 1:49:57Adam Sosnick?

  One of the greatest Americans in America today is a guy named Tom Homan. And you might not like what he's doing, you might not like what he's saying, but there's a lot of Americans that do. Overwhelmingly, Americans, here's some stats right here, CNN shows the majority of Americans want Trump to deport all illegal immigrants. New York Times, left, 55%, Marquette, 64%, CBS News, 57, ABC, 56. Americans are basically saying, we don't want people who are here illegally to be here. And those are people who haven't necessarily even done- Bad crimes. Those are people just cross the border illegally. So what we're doing is what we're seeing is just normalcy is taking over. You've committed a crime. You've came here illegally. You're gonna have to pay a price.

• 1:50:41Adam Sosnick?

  Now, I don't think you should be going to jail for crossing the border. But what are the ramifications of that? Now, going after the criminals, the gang act, the gang members, the drug dealers? Get these guys locked up. Put them in Everglades, what they call it over there?

• 1:50:56Speaker 09

  Alcatraz, alligator.

• 1:50:58Adam Sosnick?

  Alligator, Alcatraz. Put them in there. Tom Homan, they said, you know, we can't separate kids from their family. Well, that's exactly what you do when your father is a drug dealer and he has to go to jail.

• 1:51:08Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 1:51:09Adam Sosnick?

  We can't separate the mother from the children. It's exactly what happens when your mother committed a crime. She has to go to jail. It sucks. Nobody likes to see people being rounded up, gathered and thrown in jail. Nobody likes that. It's not pretty. But none of this is meant to be pretty. Something called GSD. Getting shit done. Sometimes you gotta get shit done. And you gotta break a couple of eggs in order to make an omelet. That's what Tom Homan is doing.

• 1:51:33Speaker 09

  Yeah, egg prices are down.

• 1:51:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Again, guys, listen, it's... Some things are very, very nasty on what you're saying. But this is what they voted for. Go to the top 20 promises he made on Trump 47, Rob. This is the promises Trump made. It's a checklist. I promised to do the following checklist that...

• 1:51:54Adam Sosnick?

  Get to the bottom of apps?

• 1:51:56Speaker 09

  No, that's not, that's on the list.

• 1:51:58Patrick Bet-David?

  I sent you the picture yesterday. Anyways, it's on one of the promises that they made. Border, and I think it's the top three promises that they had in place.

• 1:52:05Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly.

• 1:52:06Patrick Bet-David?

  So, okay, let's go to the next story. Vinny, tell me what is this story? Of the CEO being at a Coldplay concert? What is that all about?

• 1:52:15Speaker 09

  Okay, so I sent it to Rob. The guy is Andy Byron, and we fact-checked it. He's the CEO of Astronomer, okay? He's with, he's at a Coldplay concert and with his HR head, Kristin Cabot. And they got caught on the jumbotron, Rob. It's a volume up, cuz I believe, I believe the guy, the singer? What's his, Chris Martin, who's the guy? It's Coldplay singer. He's like, he says something like, oh, either they got caught or she's really shy.

• 1:52:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, look at these two. All right, come on, you're okay? Uh-oh, what?

• 1:52:52Speaker 09

  Look at her friend.

• 1:52:52Patrick Bet-David?

  They're having an affair, or they're just very shy.

• 1:52:54Speaker 09

  Oh, look at the friend, Pat, red.

• 1:52:59Speaker 09

  Oh my, so that's the CEO of the company. He's at a Coldplay concert with the head of his HR.

• 1:53:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is this guy?

• 1:53:07Speaker 09

  He's an astronomer. His name is Andy Byron. I looked it up, Rob. Look what astronomer. It's like a tech type.

• 1:53:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that really with his head of HR?

• 1:53:18Speaker 09

  That's the head of his HR. Her name is Kristin Cabot. This is what, that's Grok is saying orchestrated from Kristin Cabot is the head of their alleged affair was exposed in a kiss cam at Coldplay concert in Boston sparking interest due to workplace ethics. That's what Grok is saying. How wild is that? Why are we talking about this story? It just happened before we came in here, but I mean, you know, those kiss cams, people are like, no, I don't want to kiss my wife.

• 1:53:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Coldplay had a concert this morning?

• 1:53:44Speaker 09

  In Boston. No, I don't think it was this morning.

• 1:53:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, last night.

• 1:53:47Speaker 09

  Yeah, or a couple of days. I don't know. I don't know when the actual concert was. Vinnie, get off X.

• 1:53:54Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I, I think it's, um, welcome to the instant news cycle and the internet and, uh, the kiss cam all come together.

• 1:54:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, there you go, folks. If you were wondering, that's the head of HR. Okay? I mean.

• 1:54:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Who looked up and saw it, covers her face, ducks behind her friend. He ducks to who knows where. And so it's like, and then you, you heard the guy say, you hear that?

• 1:54:21Speaker 09

  Other than having an affair, she's really shy. But could you imagine, like, can I just one question real quick, Matt? What happens Monday morning at work?

• 1:54:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You go to HR. That's what you do. You're gonna go straight to HR.

• 1:54:35Speaker 09

  Close the door!

• 1:54:36Patrick Bet-David?

  It starts and ends with HR.

• 1:54:38Speaker 09

  Oh my God.

• 1:54:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So I'm gonna go to HR. How are we gonna handle this?

• 1:54:43Speaker 09

  But I mean, seriously, she has to go.

• 1:54:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, forget about the weekend. I mean, this is.

• 1:54:48Tom Ellsworth?

  This is horrible.

• 1:54:49Patrick Bet-David?

  If it's a, if it's a company with a board, he's fired.

• 1:54:53Speaker 09

  Oh, really?

• 1:54:54Patrick Bet-David?

  If it's a company, yeah, you're firing this guy. You have to move on because it's showing, I don't know how big this astronomer, how big of a, uh,

• 1:54:59Speaker 09

  Go to the company, Rob.

• 1:55:00Patrick Bet-David?

  How big is astronomer? Go to astronomer Crunchbase. Astronomer Crunchbase. Uh, is it a big company? Have you ever heard of astronomer Tom? Uh astronomer, growth of high score sixty-two. How much money have they raised in the past? Uh trending. Trending. It's probably trending because people. High activity, by the way. High activity, baby. For sure, you're having high activity, the way he was talking. Uh, exactly right. Astronomer. That wasn't any software, we're about to have activity. Astronomer market cap. Are you ready for activity? Give me one more second. However, it has a cheap evaluation, seven hundred thirty-nine billion dollars. Seven hundred thirty-nine million dollars foreign. Okay, I mean, if it's a nearly a billion dollar company. This is bad.

• 1:55:45Patrick Bet-David?

  You have a board, series D funding, he probably owns a percentage of it. What percentage of the company does Andy, what's his last name? Andy? I'm sorry. Andy Byron. B Y R O N. B Y R O N. Yes, sir. Own. So what percentage of the company does he own? Can you find out how much, what percentage he owns? If it's less than, uh, no.

• 1:56:12Patrick Bet-David?

  He received a founder level equity package and possibly get additional shares upon becoming a CEO. Yeah, so he owns a good amount of shares. How much that is, it could be as low as five percent, as high as twenty-five percent. Okay? He, he doesn't own over fifty-one percent. He's fired. They do that, they do that. Why is he fired, Ben? This isn't Dana White. This isn't a big name that personality tied to it. This is a, you know, you know, when the scandal happened, uh, uh, New Year's Eve with Dana and his wife. Yeah, yeah. This isn't that, Dana's like, no, we're not doing this. I'm gonna run the company. But this guy's probably within ninety days gonna be replaced. And step down, get a seat on the board, won't be off the board. And then they'll have to bring another person in the interim to get it going.

• 1:56:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And the HR person has to be fired, or she's probably gonna step down and resign because it's embarrassing. Yeah. You're, you're not getting fired because firing her could cause other.

• 1:57:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Types of legal issues for the company. But to save face, she's gonna resign and both of them may resign and step down.

• 1:57:14Adam Sosnick?

  Wow.

• 1:57:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:15Adam Sosnick?

  And a divorce might be coming.

• 1:57:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Just so you know, it happens.

• 1:57:18Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:57:19Patrick Bet-David?

  It happens and Tom and I, one time we were in a meeting seventeen years ago, sixteen years ago. You remember, you know which one I'm talking about?

• 1:57:26Adam Sosnick?

  He has a smirk, he knows what's coming.

• 1:57:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember Vistage, the one meeting? And it happens. You sit there in a meeting, it's like, hey, here's what just happened, here's what's going on. Assistant, boom, lawyer, this. Guy, you about to lose everything, yep, that house on Mulholland Drive, all that stuff is gone, yep.

• 1:57:41Adam Sosnick?

  I would just do the George Costanza defense and just be like, is that, was that wrong? Was I not supposed to? Was that, was that, Rob, what was the thing?

• 1:57:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Or do the Charles White one.

• 1:57:52Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:53Patrick Bet-David?

  If she come to me and she tell me, hey, you, you doing? Yeah, I am. You know what?

• 1:58:00Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:01Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the funniest podcast I did. By the way, can you show, this is the intro of the podcast that's going out tomorrow with Charleston White. Uh, uh, uh, our crew here loves this guy. Absolutely loves this guy. They keep telling me for the last year and a half, have him on, we finally had him on and, and let me tell you. This was not an organized, this is organized chaos. But I let you watch the intro, go ahead, Rob, watch this.

• 1:58:25Speaker 30

  Trump is a weenie.

• 1:58:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump is a weenie?

• 1:58:27Speaker 30

  Yeah, Trump, name three bar fights we know Trump done had.

• 1:58:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So you would rather have Mike Tyson as a president than Trump?

• 1:58:33Speaker 30

  No, Mike Tyson's stupid. Oh, yeah.

• 1:58:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody has a clue what you're gonna say, you're so unpredictable.

• 1:58:39Speaker 30

  The Democrats are a very clever slave master. They went and recruited the gays. That's Sergeant Dick Van Dyke. The worst thing we could have done to our military is don't ask, don't tell. Now, we asking and you tell us.

• 1:58:51Patrick Bet-David?

  You give me the feeling that you watch a lot of WNBA, is that true? Like, are you a big WNBA?

• 1:58:56Speaker 30

  I hate the WNBA. Lesbian women are not entertaining. Go get some hoes that can play basketball. They supposed to be playing in what she got on right there. They should have uniforms.

• 1:59:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you're saying for them to wear plain lingerie?

• 1:59:05Speaker 30

  Yeah, yeah, in heels, running up and down in them, in them heels.

• 1:59:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Very specific. People you'd wanna meet, who would it be?

• 1:59:11Speaker 30

  I wanna meet the leader, the grand wizard of the two plus lane.

• 1:59:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:59:15Speaker 30

  Parent, parenthood is. I knew Hitler, I knew Nazi group.

• 1:59:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me about it.

• 1:59:19Speaker 30

  That's exterminating strictly black people.

• 1:59:21Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think I did?

• 1:59:22Speaker 30

  Exactly. He's innocent. I seen that video.

• 1:59:23Patrick Bet-David?

  She's running.

• 1:59:24Speaker 30

  She's stealing his bag. Give me my bag. Where you going?

• 1:59:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you're thinking.

• 1:59:28Speaker 30

  You get on back here.

• 1:59:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You think this is okay?

• 1:59:30Speaker 30

  Yeah, in the ghetto, this is normal. Fighting and fucking the makeup, best orgasm in the world. They make songs about it.

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• 2:00:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I have no idea how the audience is going to react. I can't wait. You know what? He says it's to learn what the life is like when you're raised in certain communities. Yeah, yeah. And the perspective he gave is going to be very different than what you're. Guys, brace for impact. If you have that ability to watch it, you will be entertained because you will not be able to predict what he's going to say. And by the way, guess what? Charleston White is officially on my neck. If you wanted to ask him a question, you can go on my neck and ask him a question. Last thing I want to do before we wrap up. And by the way, that interview is going to go out, Rob, tomorrow?

• 2:01:14Speaker 17

  Yes, sir, 9 a.m.

• 2:01:15Patrick Bet-David?

  There we go. Let's see. I can't wait to read the comments. I cannot wait to read the comments. Last one, Autopen.

• 2:01:21Patrick Bet-David?

  So, when it comes on to Autopen, we go.

• 2:01:29Patrick Bet-David?

  White House launches probe into Biden's Autopen use and major escalation of covering of controversy. Here's the challenge with this. This guy here that was his doctor.

• 2:01:39Speaker 09

  No, that's not his doctor, Pat. This is Anthony Bernal. He's Joe Biden's top aide and Jill Biden's chief of staff.

• 2:01:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, that's right. This is the guy that was pleading the fifth for asking about the health, cover up all that stuff.

• 2:01:51Speaker 09

  This guy, he's one of them too.

• 2:01:52Patrick Bet-David?

  So while they're going through this about the Autopen, Biden tells New York Times, Rob, do you have a video on this or is it just a story?

• 2:02:00Speaker 09

  Just a story.

• 2:02:01Patrick Bet-David?

  He tells New York Times, "He did not individually approve names of many pardoned via Autopen." Well, that's, that's some big stuff there to the point where Josh Hawley came out and had to even talk about this. He says, "Former President Joe Biden admitted to New York Times that he did not individually approve each name for category pardons issued via Autopen, stated that he signed off on a standard for large batches of clemency actions in his final months with aides confirming Mr. Biden did not individually approve each name for the categorical pardons that applied to a large number of..." The Times noted, "Biden issued four large sets of pardons, three of which were categorical." Biden's team, led by then White House staff secretary Stephanie Feldman, managed the

• 2:02:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Autopen process with emails showing Biden set criteria in meetings with top advisers like Chief of Staff Jeffrey Zients, is that the guy? And White House Counsel Ed Siskel, who relayed instructions to Assistant One Former Aid, explained, "Rather than Mr. Biden, rather than ask Mr. Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version through the Autopen, which they saw as a routine procedure." Okay? Rob, do you have the Josh Hawley clip?

• 2:03:11Speaker 09

  I do.

• 2:03:12Patrick Bet-David?

  On this, can you play that? Go for it.

• 2:03:14Speaker 18

  Over this Autopen situation, it's just becoming now front page news. What in the hell's going on and what can you do about it?

• 2:03:21Speaker 32

  Well, what needs to happen, a couple of things. I mean, first of all, we need to call the person. We now have the name of the person who managed the auto pin under Biden. It's, I believe it's the individual is a woman. She needs to be called before Congress, put under oath, testify in public. We need to hear from her. We need to know exactly what did he authorize? When did he authorize this? I suspect the truth is, Steve, he didn't authorize anything, which would be like the scandal of the century. We need to know that. Number two, there is supposed to be a paper trail. You know, we had a hearing on this in the Senate a couple of weeks ago. To me, the big revelation out of that hearing was every time the auto pin is used, there's supposed to be an explicit paper trail. The president has to, at a minimum, give verbal consent to use it and a record is made of that.

• 2:04:06Speaker 32

  So let's get all the documents. Let's see them. They should be in Biden's archives. They ought to be in his papers. We need to go get them. If Biden's not going to release them voluntarily, Congress ought to subpoena those documents and get them and put them out in public. Where's the paper trail? Who authorized the use of the pin? That's what we need to be getting after.

• 2:04:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, Tom, thoughts on this? Well, what Biden just said to New York Times was basically a birthday present to Josh Hawley. Because Josh Hawley's wanted to investigate this. And now I think he's going to get his congressional hearing. If it turns out that the president didn't approve names of pardons, I'd like to know, once Congress gets a hold of that, how do those pardons hold up? I don't know what the legal path is to getting your pardon held up. Is it reasonable reliance? That you reasonably believed you were pardoned? Okay, well, that's fine. But if you weren't really pardoned, I want to know what the, uh, the, the legal path is here. Because these pardons impact the American people.

• 2:05:12Tom Ellsworth?

  That people who have committed crimes were granted clemency. All those drug criminals, um, where it turns out now. Remember all the marijuana?

• 2:05:21Speaker 09

  Of course.

• 2:05:22Tom Ellsworth?

  You call them criminals, I hate to do that, but it was the people that were in prison for distribution of marijuana that now you would get 14 days at county or something. So, I'm concerned about where do we go from here? Because Josh Hawley, I believe, is gonna have hearings on this. And if there were names that weren't approved, such as Fauci, I think that opens the whole, um, it's not Pandora's box, it opens the process to dive into COVID. I'm not worried about the individual people that may find out they're not pardoned on other things, but this would open up the ability to prosecute on COVID.

• 2:06:02Speaker 09

  Oh, I personally don't think that, like, I like Josh Hawley, but Republicans are all bark and no bite. How many more hearings? How many more letters? How many more? All they do is talk. Democrats, say what you want about them, bro, they go for your jugular. They will start lawfare on your ass, they will go, oh, this, this property's not, it's worth 15 million, or this. They will go after you and they will cut off your freaking life supply. Okay, Pat, if we don't mind, Rob, because I'm gonna go back, uh, just to get the audience caught up. Last week, Joe Biden's personal physician, his name was Kevin O'Connor, he before, uh, showed up in front of Congress, he invoked the Fifth Amendment when asked about Biden's mental health, cognitive fitness, and who is actually making decisions in the White House. Then yesterday, do you mind if we play this, uh, Pat?

• 2:06:48Speaker 09

  This is Anthony Bernall, Joe Biden's top aide, and, uh, Jill Biden's chief of staff. He also invoked the Fifth. Look at this guy and tell me if you don't feel guilt. Go ahead, Rob, you can play it.

• 2:06:58Speaker 33

  Mr. Bernall, did you ever advise President Joe Biden to pardon his son Hunter Biden? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution.

• 2:07:11Speaker 09

  Look at, look at, look at how happy he is. Look at this guy. Look at him.

• 2:07:18Speaker 33

  Thank you. We're gonna go off the record real quick.

• 2:07:19Speaker 09

  Off the, and then look, they go, nope, go back on the record.

• 2:07:21Speaker 33

  Okay, we'll go back on the record.

• 2:07:22Speaker 09

  They went off the record for a second, for a question.

• 2:07:24Speaker 33

  Mr. Bernal, was President Joe Biden fit to exercise the duties of the president? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. Let the record reflect that Mr. Bernal has invoked the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

• 2:07:41Speaker 09

  Watch this.

• 2:07:41Speaker 33

  Mr. Bernal, please be very clear. Are you declining to answer the question put to you solely on the ground that you believe the answer will incriminate you? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution.

• 2:07:55Speaker 09

  Legally speaking, he just said yes.

• 2:07:57Speaker 33

  Did any unelected official or family member of President Joe Biden execute the duties of the presidency?

• 2:08:04Speaker 09

  Look at this.

• 2:08:04Speaker 33

  On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment.

• 2:08:08Speaker 09

  Okay, now if you guys remember, do you guys remember this, Tommy? About a month ago, David Hogg was caught undercover by James O'Keefe, and he was saying that Bernal was the one actually running the White House. This is the guy.

• 2:08:21Speaker 14

  Question for me is like, how corrupt is the DNC?

• 2:08:23Speaker 09

  Too loud. Yeah, go ahead, Rob.

• 2:08:26Speaker 14

  One question for me is like, how corrupt is the DNC if so many people knew, or few people knew about Biden, the president of the United States? I mean, I think the fact of the matter is the DNC is always gonna be like a campaign arm of the president, ultimately. The bigger issue was like the inner circle that was around Biden.

• 2:08:42Speaker 09

  Here we go.

• 2:08:44Speaker 14

  That's it. And I came straight, I came straight to see you and know that Joe Biden's chief of staff.

• 2:08:48Speaker 09

  Boom.

• 2:08:48Speaker 14

  Like had an enormous amount of power.

• 2:08:50Speaker 09

  Joe Biden?

• 2:08:51Speaker 14

  Joe Biden's chief of staff. That was like an open secret at the time. Like, I, I would avoid him. Like, he was scary.

• 2:08:57Speaker 09

  He was scary.

• 2:08:59Speaker 14

  Um, Anthony.

• 2:09:00Speaker 09

  Boom. That's him. Okay, so all right, so let's, so let's break this down. The president's personal doctor and his top aide plead the Fifth, okay? Now, it's not about classified missions, it's not about foreign intelligence. They were asked these simple questions. Was Joe Biden mentally fit to serve? Okay, that should be a yes or no answer. Were you ever told to lie about his condition? And was someone else calling the shots? That's behind the scenes. They refuse to answer that because under the constitution, the fifth amendment. Um, that's it protects you when you're answering, your answers could expose you to criminal charges. So I'll ask, I'll ask you guys, what's criminal about saying the president is fine unless he's not? Okay, unless it is a cover up, unless someone else was running the country, which we, I believe that they were.

• 2:09:42Speaker 09

  Unless the American people were lied to. Okay, we were lied to intentionally, repeatedly, and in ways that carry ser- serious legal consequences. Okay, and, and, and listen, this is the constitution, Pat. He has the right, they both have the right to remain silent, but we have the right to demand the truth. Okay, and if people that were the closest to him, like this guy, Anthony Bernall, right here, were, were closest, when they were the ones calling the shots, something has to, like, what do we do, Tom, to change this? Like, how do you change the fact that the, the physician is pleading the fifth when we know?

• 2:10:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you a question.

• 2:10:16Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 2:10:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, Rob, can you run a poll?

• 2:10:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Which of these two issue, which of these two issues is, guys in the back are so good, like whoever did that? That was professional. That's Jake or the guys. Make some noise so I know who it is. Was it Andres or Jake? Jake. Jake. Uh, you're a stud, buddy. Uh, but, uh, you know, when, you, you, the poll, Rob, right now is which of these two issues more important to you? Before you answer right off the bat, take, take five seconds to vote for it, okay?

• 2:10:50Patrick Bet-David?

  If you could only choose one of these two to be revealed, the truth, Epstein files or Fauci, which one is it? Rob, run the poll, okay? Epstein, and I'm gonna give you some data that just was released right now, okay? Epstein or Fauci? You only have one to choose from. I know you're greedy, you want both, we all are, but you can only choose one.

• 2:11:14Speaker 09

  Very greedy and I'm, I'm like, right.

• 2:11:16Patrick Bet-David?

  But which one is more important to you? I wouldn't even sell either one of them. I'm gonna, because I know I could sell them, but I'm not gonna sell it to you. I'm gonna leave it to you. Okay, and then we all can vote for it.

• 2:11:27Speaker 09

  It's so, so hard. It's so hard.

• 2:11:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta pick one, because it's not 50/50. To me, it's not a 50/50 issue.

• 2:11:33Speaker 09

  I think, me personally, with, with, and hear me out, with China, with Trump holding them accountable for

• 2:11:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't show that, Rob.

• 2:11:43Speaker 09

  I don't want to see nothing. With the trade war, with the leak, with the lockdowns, with the vaccine, with people, my family members, vaccine injured, with the deaths, with the lies, with the cancer that's happening, I would go COVID and Fauci.

• 2:11:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, by the way, and I think, Tom, you're probably there as well, and Adam, I think you're, I don't even need to ask, I know you're gonna be there as well.

• 2:12:03Adam Sosnick?

  I wrote it down.

• 2:12:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think either is that crazy important to you.

• 2:12:06Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I think that what happened with China, with Fauci, is a little bit more important.

• 2:12:09Patrick Bet-David?

  So watch the poll.

• 2:12:09Adam Sosnick?

  I actually think you're a loser if you choose Epstein in this situation.

• 2:12:12Patrick Bet-David?

  We already know that. Stupid people are losers. I got you. Go up, Rob.

• 2:12:14Adam Sosnick?

  I agree with Trump.

• 2:12:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Go up, Rob.

• 2:12:16Adam Sosnick?

  That if you choose this, you're a loser.

• 2:12:17Patrick Bet-David?

  How many people voted? 1658, 62 Fauci, 38% Epstein. So now, they just, Enton, you know, Enton from CNN, which sounds like the polls they do is fairly, fair and reasonable.

• 2:12:29Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 2:12:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So you can't just pick and choose to say, no, no, this one I don't agree with. They ran a poll to see how the MAGA-based voters that voted for Trump, what percentage of them had this Epstein fumble caused them to lose their mind that they said, I'm done with Trump, I'm moving away. Rob, can you please play that clip? Watch this, okay? And we have to show stuff that agree with us and don't agree with us. So this, go ahead, Rob.

• 2:12:56Speaker 34

  I mean, look, I think this one surprised me a bit.

• 2:12:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Are Republicans leaving Trump over Epstein?

• 2:13:00Speaker 34

  Because of all these complaints online going after Trump, and the Epstein files, you might think his approval ratings were going down, Republicans. If anything, they're going up. Republicans who approve of Trump, look at our CNN poll. The prior one, 86%, the one out this week, 88% with Republicans. How about Quinnipiac, the prior poll, 87% approval of Republicans, this week out, 90% with Republicans. If anything, Donald Trump's approval rating has gone up since this whole Epstein saga started. He is at the apex, or close there too, in terms of his popularity with Republican voters, Epstein files, complaints, or not.

• 2:13:34Speaker 22

  You just proved that not everything online is real.

• 2:13:36Speaker 34

  Yes, it is.

• 2:13:38Speaker 17

  Who knew?

• 2:13:39Speaker 22

  Amazing.

• 2:13:40Speaker 34

  Twitter and X are not reality.

• 2:13:42Speaker 17

  Is there any reason that you can find that this hasn't taken hold and hurt him?

• 2:13:46Speaker 34

  Yeah, I mean, on X, all you hear about is the Epstein files. But how about out in the real public? Republicans who said the top issue was Epstein case? The answer is one, one, and not one percent.

• 2:13:59Patrick Bet-David?

  His name is Vinnie.

• 2:14:00Speaker 34

  One responded. This is a great little finding that Ariel Edwards Levy, who of course is part of our polling unit found. Just one single Republican said that the nation's top problem is in fact the Epstein case. Not much of a surprise that therefore Donald Trump's approval rating has not suffered with Republicans because of the Epstein case. Because the bottom line is, most Americans say it's not up high up on their priority.

• 2:14:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so Vinnie, how do you respond to that? When you see something like that? Because again, CNN would have loved to have shown this to show the decline. So now watch this.

• 2:14:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember how I said whoever you follow and whatever you say, you know, whoever you follow a lot long enough and you read their tweets every day? Whether you know it or not, you're gonna take a lot of their philosophy and ideology on you. Affirmations have power, words have power, okay? America's not X. It's just not. I'm telling you, America's not X. However, imagine if

• 2:15:01Patrick Bet-David?

  the people who are upset with what happened with Epstein. To me, biggest fumble so far in the administration, it's that. And it's still not affected him.

• 2:15:08Speaker 34

  Yeah.

• 2:15:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember back in the day, I can go to New York, I'm still not gonna... Okay.

• 2:15:15Patrick Bet-David?

  If they want to get a certain level of status, of like sane status, if they're able to address this Fauci thing and get it, remove Fauci's pardon. Supreme Court votes 5-4. You can go to Supreme Court. Supreme Court votes 5-4.

• 2:15:40Patrick Bet-David?

  The pardon's been removed. Then Hawley, Rand Paul, they go after him. RFK goes after Fauci. All of that is public. Fauci's not gonna go to jail, but all of that is public. And we all find out that him and all these guys lied.

• 2:15:59Patrick Bet-David?

  The level of redemption. How many people will sit there and say frickin about time?

• 2:16:05Speaker 09

  Oh, all, I mean, you're saying find out that they're like, I mean, we already know that they lied. The facts are out there, but it's, it's the accountability of, of holding his foot to the fire and having him go in front of Congress and not because he knows that the Democrats own the House and the Senate. Fauci was yelling at people because he knows he was untouchable.

• 2:16:23Tom Ellsworth?

  The, the Americans, now forget about politics. Just how Americans feel about COVID. They're up over 70% support and, and they're in the I told you so. So when you ask them, are you pleased to hear Johnson and Johnson said that under, that they went too fast? They didn't test it. Are you pleased to see court cases that are saying those vaccines are unsafe? Are you pleased to see saying all the mandates for kids having vaccines have been removed? Are you pleased with that? All of that's over 70%. Strictly related to the vaccine. Americans are over 70% approving and supporting all of the truth that's coming out right now.

• 2:17:08Tom Ellsworth?

  You take that, Pat, that 70%.

• 2:17:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, Tom.

• 2:17:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Now you put Fauci on the stand? He's the villain that caused it.

• 2:17:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So what I'm saying to you is, and Adam, I'm going to come to you and we're going to wrap up. What I'm saying to you is.

• 2:17:23Patrick Bet-David?

  If we have one tenth of influence over the administration, 1% influence over the administration, and they watch, we know they watch to show some of the things that we say. The way politics works, stories come and go. Trust me, a crisis is going to happen in the next week, you're going straight to the crisis. Wait for it. You will see how quickly America moves on. Fortunately, unfortunately, whatever you want to call it, that's the game of politics that works. That is the worst interception of all time. Boom, you move on.

• 2:17:52Speaker 09

  Again.

• 2:17:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, to the next fumble. But if these guys are able to actually do this.

• 2:18:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I believe this is bigger than John F Kennedy assassination. I believe this is bigger than 9/11. I believe this is the biggest one out of all of them.

• 2:18:06Speaker 09

  I agree.

• 2:18:07Patrick Bet-David?

  If they do this.

• 2:18:07Speaker 09

  And why do you, why do you, why do you say that over JFK and 9/11?

• 2:18:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, because JFK didn't.

• 2:18:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Influence a hundred percent of the world. Epstein didn't influence a hundred percent of the world. 9/11 didn't influence a hundred percent of the world. Covid and Fauci influenced 100% of the world.

• 2:18:30Adam Sosnick?

  Shut everything down.

• 2:18:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. No matter whether you lived in Australia, Italy, Spain, China, Japan, US, Canada, Brazil, Mexico, you were affected by Fauci.

• 2:18:40Adam Sosnick?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:18:41Patrick Bet-David?

  100%.

• 2:18:44Patrick Bet-David?

  100%. That I'm very interested in. Very interested in.

• 2:18:49Tom Ellsworth?

  And if you leave the people out of it. 70% of Americans are aligned on the Covid vaccination. Forget the people, don't be political, just the topic of the vaccination. 70% of America are aligned right now.

• 2:19:05Speaker 09

  Now, can we be honest with each other? What are the odds?

• 2:19:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Less than 5%.

• 2:19:09Speaker 09

  Okay, and that's the one thing that I'm, it drives me bananas. That if, if the Autopens, remember when they lined them all up? He definitely, it was all the same. I want, and this is the thing, when it comes to people like me. We want, when I say accountability, give us one of these guys arrested.

• 2:19:27Patrick Bet-David?

  But Vinny, no. You're not 80%.

• 2:19:33Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 2:19:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Look where the Epstein issue fell. In the streets.

• 2:19:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Whatever we like, we think everybody else likes. They don't. Whatever we follow, we feel everybody else follows. They don't. They don't, that's how this works. So, that's telling you that, Adam, give me your final thoughts and then...

• 2:19:52Adam Sosnick?

  Well, look, I'm not gonna do what you thought I was gonna do and just freak out. And just tell you that you were wrong and tell you I was right. I wouldn't do that. I'm better than that. I'm not gonna tell you that I'm good-looking and you're ugly and I'm smart and you're stupid. I wouldn't do that to you, Vinny.

• 2:20:08Speaker 09

  You would say stupid, though.

• 2:20:09Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, would. But I do think there was a message here in this, like, sort of like, mini-intervention that we had for Vinny. I don't think you're a loser, I don't think you're stupid, I don't think you're a gullible weakling, I don't think you're any of the things that Trump called his own base. I do think you've been a little bit brainwashed. And this has been my entire emphasis of our point and what we did today, hold on.

• 2:20:29Speaker 09

  Go ahead.

• 2:20:29Adam Sosnick?

  And when I said, yeah, okay, I'd like to know what happened with Epstein, but I'm not gonna lose my mind if I don't get the exact answer that I've been looking for. And what's been happening is that they told you what happened and you disbelieve it and you go down a rabbit hole. To unprove what has already been proven that you didn't prove and it's just a pathway to nowhere. So I think PBD, because he loves you and appreciates your perspective, we all do. He's like, well, look dude, maybe you're wrong on this one. And here's some data that shows you how wrong you are. Is that 1% of the? Wait, that doesn't mean that I'm wrong at all. That's not, you just missed the point. No, I'm not wrong. I'll tell you why you're wrong.

• 2:21:09Adam Sosnick?

  Because on the top 20 issues that Trump campaigned on, Epstein wasn't on the list.

• 2:21:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I also disagree with what you're saying, bro.

• 2:21:16Adam Sosnick?

  Alright, well then let me finish my statement and then you guys can disagree. On polling of America about you're ready to basically call Donald Trump a liar, Cash Patel a liar, Dan Bongino, you said they're all liars and now public polling is actually, approval is higher than ever.

• 2:21:32Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way.

• 2:21:32Adam Sosnick?

  So maybe I'm misinterpreting this wrong?

• 2:21:34Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, those two don't correlate here.

• 2:21:37Adam Sosnick?

  Tell me where I messed up here.

• 2:21:38Patrick Bet-David?

  What Enton, no, it's not that you messed up.

• 2:21:40Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly.

• 2:21:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You're assuming, Enton is telling you that it's not people's top issue.

• 2:21:45Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 2:21:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And only, it was one person's top issue, not even 1%, he said it.

• 2:21:50Adam Sosnick?

  Correct.

• 2:21:50Patrick Bet-David?

  One person's top issue and his popularity even went up.

• 2:21:55Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly.

• 2:21:55Patrick Bet-David?

  And the point I'm trying to make is X is not America. YouTube is not America. Facebook, Instagram is not America. Fox News is not America, CNN is not America. These are all factions of America. And to him, this is a very important matter, period. He's got nephews and nieces, he has the right to do so. And you, you can say, no, it's not important to me. And then data can prove both people wrong and say, you guys don't know what you're talking about. Here's what America's interested in. Alright, great, cool, and we move on.

• 2:22:30Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 2:22:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So it, it, it can still be very important to the guy. The only thing I'm saying is.

• 2:22:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Allow the right people to wash your brain.

• 2:22:40Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:22:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, you know, some of the dirt, you know, that washes you also, the shit sticks.

• 2:22:45Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, I've been wrong.

• 2:22:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Hard to do so.

• 2:22:48Adam Sosnick?

  I've been wrong a ton of times and I'll say, yeah, my bad. I was wrong on this. I was wrong on Trump, Russia, Russia, Russia. I've been wrong and I have the balls, just like Ken Langone said about Trump. Listen, when I'm wrong, I'm gonna say, yo, my bad, I move on.

• 2:23:01Adam Sosnick?

  That's the biggest problem here. You're just validating everything that I stood for the last two podcasts is that you're doubling down on what nobody else gives a shit about as much as you. I respect that you think this way, but nobody else does.

• 2:23:14Speaker 09

  Well, same as your convictions and your brainwashed in other situations.

• 2:23:18Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, no.

• 2:23:18Speaker 09

  And it is what it is.

• 2:23:19Adam Sosnick?

  The difference is your brainwashed too. Here's the problem.

• 2:23:21Patrick Bet-David?

  We gotta wrap up.

• 2:23:22Adam Sosnick?

  You don't have the balls to say, you know what? I was wrong. Say you were wrong. Say you were wrong.

• 2:23:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Tomorrow, we have a, tomorrow, we have Charleston White. Guys, there's gonna be a lot of brainwashing, but ain't gonna be clean water. So you're gonna hear some stuff that's gonna be very offensive when this goes out tomorrow. One minute he's bashing the president, next minute he's saying he's the reason why he voted for him, next minute he's bashing him again, and the next minute he's the greatest of all time. It's a very weird podcast. However, those of you guys that are competing for the Minect contest, I can't wait to see you guys here. We only have two weeks left for those of you that are competing and they're still in it. Rob, if you want to go to the leaders bulletin. Out of nowhere, for lightweight, John Kirakou is first place. Ashley Glenn is still there. Wow, Giancarlo's at 140, two months combined.

• 2:24:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You have Scott Woolley, Dan Roan, Rhino Youtuber, Scott Storch. Oh, Scott could be in this one. Julio Gonzalez, and then who's ninth and 10th, Rob? I don't know who's ninth and then. Terrillan and Anna Casper, Anna Casper is 10th place. And then let's go to middleweight. On middleweight, we have Tommy Robinson, Dean Mason, Constantine, DJ Shipley, Aramont, Patricia Breskies. You got a bunch of other guys there. Then go to heavyweight, Mason, Brinkat, Mara, Garcia, Matt Sappala, Sardor, Cap Chatfield, Brock, Santino, Patrick Williamson. And then super heavyweight, Lindy's destroying him. She's just on, she's gonna break a record this month, Lindy. And Vincent O'Shaughnessy, Timothy, Andy Elliott was like, I'm gonna break every record here. He slowed down a little bit. He slowed down, but Lyndy Lee is just on fire.

• 2:24:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Then you got myself, Tom, Adam, Andy Vargas, Garguyo, who's 10th place? Dennis Pannett, and then go to users? Garguyo. It's gonna be Zeus's joke. Users is gonna be top 3 categories. So Kylan Webb, okay, so it could be Kylan, Mike Lamb, and Shatage. They're top 3 right now, competing for it. Anybody can go, all you need to do is manek people, ask people questions in there, and you leave people reviews, and unique reviews, you score points. So you can download the app and ask them and compete. And you're gonna come out here and have dinner with us, and then we're gonna go to the cigar lounge afterwards, and hang out together, and go to the existing experts. Zeus is just... Zeus is destroyed. But look at the race between Dorothy and... I love Dorothy. Dorothy. Hecca, Hecca's the... Hecca's awesome. I'd love to meet Hecca. Dr. Cox.

• 2:25:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Great, so we're gonna have a good time. Gang, download the app, it's gonna be a big announcement with Manect coming to your... How soon? Like, I'm talking like, if one will be in 3 to 4 weeks, then the big one's gonna be in September at the Vault. Massive. Anyways, gang. Get your Vault tickets now, guys. God bless, we'll see you guys soon. Bye bye, bye bye.

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