Tucker & Ted Cruz, Israel TARGETS Fordow, Ilhan Omar Sparks OUTRAGE w/ Nancy Mace | PBD Podcast | Ep. 604

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth & Vincent Oshana are joined by Representative Nancy Mace break down the explosive showdown between Tucker Carlson and Senator Ted Cruz over U. S. policy on Iran, Israel’s latest military movement targeting Iran’s Fordow nuclear site and what it means for the region, and Congresswoman Ilhan Omar stirs major backlash over her controversial anti-American comments. ------ 👔 THE VT GENTLEMAN'S COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4kPjSmM 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 1:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, folks, so we got a very interesting podcast here today. Guest gonna join us. She landed already, I believe. She'll be here within 45 minutes and she'll join us. She asked a very complicated question from Tim Walz, the former VP presidential candidate. And Tim Walz, I mean, you don't ask questions like that from the VP. She asked him, Rob, can you play this clip up, Tim Walz? Just right off the bat, I just want to let you know who the guest is that's gonna be here. Maybe you recognize her. Stick around, we're gonna hit some stories before we get to that. Go ahead, Rob. So this is the question she asked. Very technical. Go ahead.

• 1:57Speaker 03

  Okay. What is a woman?

• 2:02Speaker 03

  What is a woman is the question?

• 2:05Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not sure I understand the question here.

• 2:08Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it. So I mean, I mean, look, can you imagine that we're living in a time that a guy that's asked to be the VP can't answer a basic question like that?

• 2:18Speaker 05

  He's a knucklehead. He said he's a knucklehead.

• 2:20Patrick Bet-David?

  He said it.

• 2:20Speaker 05

  He said he's a knucklehead.

• 2:21Patrick Bet-David?

  So we're gonna have her tell some- I think the word is won't. He won't answer it because he's handcuffed by all of those people-

• 2:27Speaker 05

  He'll lose 10 voters.

• 2:28Patrick Bet-David?

  That he's beholden to. That's a problem. By the way, if you guys are wondering why Adam is not here, some people are saying he's at an insurance conference. Some are saying he's hanging out with AIPAC. Who the hell knows where he's at? But you know, Adam's out there hanging out with his friends. And hiding phone numbers. Yeah, it is what it is. Okay, yeah. So Nick, let me cover with you what stories we're gonna be going through today. Tucker and Ted Cruz did an incredible podcast. Phenomen- if you haven't seen it, you gotta watch it. UFC 404. Thank you, Tom. It was fantastic. It's awesome. I thought it was great. Both arguments. It was a good fight, but it was respectful from both sides. Both heavyweights, maybe super heavyweights. Actually,

• 3:11Patrick Bet-David?

  no. It is the super heavyweight matchup. It was great. I really enjoyed watching it. I'm glad Tucker was, and Ted were willing to have that conversation. We're gonna, we're gonna talk about that because a lot of things was said. He asked some questions about what is the population of Iran? And then, you know, you're, you're taking money from AIPAC, all these things. We'll cover some of that stuff. But a few stories that came out. Iran will never surrender. Israel made a huge mistake. Says country supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei. He says that. And then, at the same time, you see Reza Pahlavi, the exiled prince. He's everywhere. Stories about him going back to Iran. There's even a video of him in Israel, going there with a yarmulke against the wall. So they say when that happens, like you're around the corner of getting the job. So we're gonna show that. The betting odds-

• 3:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta trust Vegas cuz Vegas doesn't like to lose money. Betting odds, Iran's leader Khamenei is ousted this year, just skyrocketed. So for some of you guys that are gamblers, you may wanna watch this one here. Uh, we'll get to that here in a minute. Israel, we are hitting Fordow, Fordow with or without US bunker busters. That story came out, we'll show you that. Trump privately approved attack plans for Iran, but has withheld final order. This is a Wall Street Journal story. Trump says Iran's supreme leader is an easy target, saying, hey, if we wanna take you out, we can take you out. Relax, we know exactly where you are. Pump the brakes, if you wanna negotiate, this is your last chance. That is the position he has. Did you see what Trump said yesterday after Tucker called him? He claims Tucker called him. Did you see that clip? Yeah. Did you see it?

• 4:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I didn't see the clip. No, they have to show it to you. It's very interesting what he says. Okay. Very interesting what he says. I, I, uh, I think it's important for everybody to see Trump's reaction to this. Trump reveals US nodes. Yeah, we covered that. Former CNN star slammed for vile jokes about Trump's dead ex-wife. I mean, you gotta realize how nasty you gotta get to get to those types of places. Massey, Democrats move to block US strikes on Iran. That's Politico. Uh, Ilhan Omar claims US turning into one of the worst countries in the world. Listen, leave. I would add another word to it, but I wanna be respectful. Leave. There was a famous poet that, I'm trying to remember his name. He had the song called Move. Get out the way. You know what I'm saying? It was French. That, that, it was. Le D'Arcus. Yeah, that's what it was.

• 5:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's French. Incredible poet, man. So San Francisco ranked worst-run major city in America. Tom Scott thoughts on that? US may lose more migrants than its gains for the first time in 50 years. Arnold came out of nowhere on The View. And guess what he defended? He says, you're a guest here to immigrants. You're a guest here, act like a guest, be grateful. And The View's like, whoa, this is too much common sense. But it also came from the guy that just three years ago said, screw your freedom. Screw your freedom. So I don't know if it's, maybe he's having a change of heart, who knows? Bust Family, big news. They sold the Lakers. The Lakers are officially out. They have new ownership.

• 6:07Patrick Bet-David?

  The ownership they had from 1979, I wanna say 46 years ago, they bought it for 64 million. Selling it for. I think they bought it for 64 million, selling it for 10 billion. It's gonna be a nice payday. Home builder sentiment nears pandemic low as economic uncertainty plagues consumers. JP Morgan Diamond, Jamie Diamond says flashes ominous warning about economic downturn. Feds hold interest rates steady for fourth time in a row. Tears on the horizon at CNN as insiders reveal stars who may be cut. And we're talking real stars. Yeah, Tom was a little bit hurt by it, but streaming surpasses combined broadcast and cable viewing for the first time.

• 6:49Patrick Bet-David?

  When you see some of the stuff that's going on there on, and who wants to go into the podcast game? Little interesting, but we'll talk about it. It's official streaming is now the king of TV. And then we got a few other stories that we'll get into here. R. Kelly, for some of you guys that were wondering, his mind was telling him no, but his body, his body said, you know, a complete different thing. So he is hospitalized after near fatal overdose. In prison, attorney claims it was plot to kill him. Who it was, we don't know at this point. Some are claiming it's Israel, but you know, who knows at this point who it is. There's a, there's a camp that's saying, R. Kelly's taking money from Qatar. There's another camp that's saying he's got Israeli money. He's funded by AIPAC. Who knows? These are claims for some of the people on Twitter. You gotta, but you know, it's who you listen to.

• 7:31Speaker 05

  So much information out there.

• 7:32Patrick Bet-David?

  It's too much. So I don't know if, what really matters is, is R. Kelly pro-Israel or pro-Iran?

• 7:37Speaker 05

  That's a huge.

• 7:38Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what matters more than anything else that's going on, obviously.

• 7:41Speaker 05

  That matters to me.

• 7:42Patrick Bet-David?

  For some of you that are literal people, that's a joke. Take, relax. It's gonna be okay. All right. So let me tell you, business folks, here's what we got. A guy named Jamie Heff texts me yesterday. Look, it's so funny. He literally just texted me right now. Jamie, you texting me at 9:22 and I'm talking about you right now on the podcast. He says, my guys want to know what white shirts you wear. There's a few white shirts I wear. One of them is this Valuetainment white shirt. By the way, it hugs you. It feels so good. For business folks, this blue shirt that I got on, we got this in blue, white and black. For business folks that want to put something on and relax, you don't have to worry about the wrinkles and it's flex, yet it's got silk. It's got the right combination.

• 8:22Patrick Bet-David?

  25 poly, 29 model, 4% spandex, 2% silk, 35% tinsel, lyosol. You're gonna love the way this sits on your body. It's got the Vaityam and logo at the top. It's got the future looks right on the bottom and the VT on the sides. But today it's the gentleman's line. Rob, if you want to play the clip for folks to see, if you're in business, you want to wear some good gear, here's some items for you right now with VT merch. Go for it, Rob.

• 8:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at Saul in the back.

• 8:49Speaker 05

  Stunt.

• 8:50Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a nice Stefano Ritchie collaboration tie, limited edition.

• 8:53Speaker 05

  That one's good.

• 8:54Patrick Bet-David?

  The new Vaityam and blue ties, black, blue, white shirt, blue shirt, black shirt.

• 9:01Speaker 05

  I love that.

• 9:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Laptop doesn't come with it, but everything else if you do. I just want to make sure we make that clear. These polo shirts have that Vaityam and button on it with the VT logo. And I love the fact that people nowadays that are seeing the VT future looks bright. They're like, hey, me too. I saw Armin the other day. He posted a video with the Vaityam and had a future looks bright hat. I absolutely freaking love it. Go to VTmerch.com, Rob, to see what the gentleman's collection is.

• 9:27Speaker 05

  What do you mean? What about the prince that you've interviewed twice says in his statement, the future looks bright?

• 9:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Gotta love the fact that this is becoming real around the world. But go sport it, represent it, wear it at work, put it together, get your power tie on. If some of you guys recognize Stefano Ritchie, you can get those high quality ties as well. But we got different items that's there on VTmerch.com, VTmerch.com. We did not buy a lot of supply of these. These are 50, 48, 96. So it's not something that it's a lot of supply that we picked up. It's just for the business folks. All right, let's get right into it. Rob, can you do me a favor? Let's start off with Arnold. Arnold is on The View. Now you guys got to realize that Arnold, you know, he made it at the highest level in Hollywood. He made it at the highest level in, not the highest level in politics, the highest level

• 10:15Patrick Bet-David?

  that an immigrant can make in politics, which he became a governor of now the fourth biggest economy in the world. He's on The View and he's talking about all this other stuff. And Rob, I don't know if we need to go through the whole thing on what he says. It's kind of selling the dream about the story. You can start it at the first 30 seconds and then we'll go to the. Last a minute here, but here's him on the view. The moment is a lot of logic there, they you realize there's hands being put on him like relax, you can't say that. Go ahead, Rob.

• 10:43Speaker 03

  You're an immigrant in this country. Did you have a visceral reaction to what they're doing, what ISIS is doing when you see the videos of it?

• 10:51Speaker 06

  Well, I tell you, you said that immigrant, I'm so proud and happy. That I was embraced by the American people like that. I mean, imagine I came over here with the age of 21, with absolutely nothing. And then to create a career like that.

• 11:12Patrick Bet-David?

  You can go to the second half of here.

• 11:14Speaker 06

  I mean, in no other country.

• 11:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, in no other country can you do that. So he's selling America. Go back 10 seconds before the hand gets on him. Right there, right, right there. Go for it.

• 11:22Speaker 06

  That day.

• 11:23Speaker 03

  That's great.

• 11:23Speaker 06

  So it's really a great, great celebration. This is what this is all about is to celebrate people becoming Americans and coming to America. And and all that. And so I I just think the world of the great kind of a history that we have with immigrants in America. But the key thing also is at the same time that we got to do things legal.

• 11:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh oh.

• 11:43Speaker 06

  That is the important thing.

• 11:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh oh, they don't like that.

• 11:46Speaker 06

  Things legal and those people that are doing illegal things in America.

• 11:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch.

• 11:50Speaker 06

  They're the foreigners.

• 11:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch the hand coming. Look at the right.

• 11:53Speaker 06

  Smart.

• 11:55Speaker 06

  Because when you come to America.

• 11:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this.

• 11:58Speaker 06

  You're a guest. And you have to behave like a guest. Like when I go to someone's house. And I'm a guest, then I will do everything I can to keep things clean and to make my bed and to do everything that is.

• 12:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at the little hand. Look at the little hand. Just want to stop him.

• 12:13Speaker 06

  Committing a crime or being abusive or something like that. So that doesn't really work in this country. So I think the important thing is when you become an immigrant. To think about, okay, I go to America because I want to use America for the great opportunities that America has. In education, in jobs.

• 12:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Good.

• 12:31Speaker 06

  Creating a family, all of those kind of things. Then you have to think about, okay, if I get all of those things from America, then I have to give something back.

• 12:39Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 12:40Speaker 06

  But you have a responsibility.

• 12:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, you do.

• 12:43Speaker 06

  Back to America and to pay back to America and to go and do something for your community.

• 12:48Patrick Bet-David?

  That's good. Okay, Vinnie, your thoughts here?

• 12:50Speaker 05

  I mean, I first of all, what a mistake on their part, you know, I mean, and, and, and yes, he has a past. You know this, I'm not a huge fan. The movies I love, but Arnold, you know, from the, you know, you know, screw your freedom, doing all that. And then also, he has a, he has a checkered past with his housekeeper. All that stuff aside, I didn't have a good, like, sense of him lately. But this is that moment where they interviewed the wrong person, a guy that came here as a legal immigrant, massive success. Okay, and this is real, Pat. This is, you know, this Arnold off the cuff, her trying to stop him, no sugar, no sugar coating. He shut down this freaking circus and I absolutely love it. And it's like, if you want to come here, okay, bring something to the table, all right, contribute,

• 13:31Speaker 05

  respect the country, all right? That's not, it's not political, it's just common sense. And I love the fact that they're trying to get him like in a gotcha moment to further their crappy view, this agenda. But I'm so happy, these are one of those moments where you're like, okay, I could disagree with the guy and I don't like the stuff that he said, especially with COVID and the lockdowns and supporting all that stuff. But this is a great moment for him and I, I, I love that he said this.

• 13:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, your thoughts?

• 13:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's two Arnolds that I've seen over the years. One is true conviction. And the other one is basically

• 14:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Acting.

• 14:03Tom Ellsworth?

  compliant crowd. And, oh, screw your freedom, he was being compliant with the crowd. He was being pushed like all the Hollywood people, hey, we got to stay with this, this is the talking point, this is what we got to stay with. And he got compliant. And at some point in time, I'd love to see somebody interview him and say, what was going on? Who was in your ear? Who was pushing you there? Because I think he was compliant. What I think I saw right here, this is the same man speaking with true conviction that as a young man, me, in 1984, when I went to a rally at Pierce College and I saw Ronald Reagan speaking on a campaign stump speech, Arnold Schwarzenegger was up there on the dais and said a few things. He had true conviction. So I think we're seeing Arnold many years later, older, but still the fire and true conviction.

• 14:48Tom Ellsworth?

  And I think he's speaking the truth of what he believes. But then there's this other side where, you know, everybody in Hollywood gets compliant and so they say what they're supposed to say.

• 14:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you read Total Recall? Have you read his book Total Recall? No.

• 15:00Speaker 05

  I haven't.

• 15:00Patrick Bet-David?

  It's one of my top 10 favorite books of all time.

• 15:02Speaker 05

  Really?

• 15:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, let me tell you, it's a ridiculous book. I mean, I, you know how I judge a book? Is that I can't wait for a break to go in the bathroom and get away from everybody to just read or listen to the audio. That's exactly what I got from this book. Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's one of the greatest books I've read. It's incredible. And you know what he talks about? He talks about how he screwed up in his marriage. He talks about what he did with his, uh, the housekeeper. There is zero, he talks about all the mistakes he made, the, the properties he bought in Palmdale, the good, the bad, the ugly, the Hollywood, the Joe Weeder. It's phenomenal to read it, right? I grew up reading his, uh, Mr. Olympia, the bodybuilding book that he had, the bodybuilding bible. He had the best bodybuilding bible out of all of them that, you know, anybody in the bodybuilding world read it. You went through it, the way he would do his workout, the push, pull, all this other stuff.

• 15:47Patrick Bet-David?

  The supersets, the way he would work out his chest, he was always known for having the best chest in the bodybuilding world, won seven Mr. Olympias. Here's the only thing. The, the part, he is one of the most fierce competitors of all time. If you watch Pumping Iron, when he went after Lou Ferrigno and he's saying, I'm always coming, all this, yeah. He's, he's, he's an icon in what he did. Up until COVID. When he had that mistake right there. And he went after Trump. And he said, screw your freedom. And for a moment. He forgot, he lost perspective. And, and you, you know, when sometimes you, you are, you know, you are so out of touch with making money that you think you're above people that you can't stop and have a conversation with them. And do you realize who I am?

• 16:32Patrick Bet-David?

  It was one of those moments like, you know, who do you think you are? Go get the vaccine, what do you, put the mask on, who, you know, screw your freedom.

• 16:39Patrick Bet-David?

  And then he lost a lot of people.

• 16:41Speaker 05

  I'm one of them.

• 16:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I went to Santa Monica Community College. He went to Santa Monica Community College. I wanted to be a Mr. Olympia. I went to Mr. Olympia, I wanted to go compete, be Hollywood, you know, Maria Kennedy, be a governor, all that stuff. And then all of a sudden you see things shift. However, bringing it to where he's at today. He said a couple of other things and a couple of other podcasts. Of course. It's tough when he followed Trump and he tried to get Prentice to go and Trump kept taking shots. When Arnold was doing Apprentice and it failed. First of all. You never ever go and replace a show that's been number one for 15 years and think you're gonna, there is nothing you can do better than what that person did. That's a big mistake that you made. I don't even know why your management allowed you to do that.

• 17:25Patrick Bet-David?

  If I was your manager and somebody said, "Pat, I'm getting the offer to take over Apprentice." Don't do it. It's a career mistake. He's gonna attack you the moment one few people watch it. He's gonna come for your throat because no one's more competitive in that space than Donald Trump. He should've gone and done a different kind of a, uh, uh, what do you call it? Done a different kind of a, a, uh, reality TV show, working with immigrants. He could've done different things, but he chose to go that route. And there's a level of bitterness of the comparison between him and Trump. Because this guy won in Hollywood, Trump won in media. This guy won in business somewhat. He's a half a billionaire guy. Trump is a billionaire. This guy won in politics, became a governor, Trump became a president. So, he is one of those trifectas. We only have a few trifectas out there. He's one of the trifectas. You gotta give him credit for it.

• 18:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And, uh, if I have to isolate this one, uh, moment that he had with The View, I thought he did a great job. And, uh, brought some common sense into people.

• 18:16Speaker 05

  Could I, could I, uh, so you wanna move on, Pat? But did you hear what Whoopi Goldberg said yesterday?

• 18:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I did.

• 18:21Speaker 05

  Did you, can you, so Whoopi Goldberg said-

• 18:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Iran.

• 18:24Speaker 05

  That black people-

• 18:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 18:25Speaker 05

  In America have it just as bad as folks in Iran. Like, uh, like, uh, you know what I think, honestly? I think it's a competition that she has with herself. She's like, "I'm gonna say something dumber and more, and ignorant than I said yesterday." It's like, what the hell she talking, she's like in an air-conditioned ABC studio, flapping her freaking gums with a bunch of other morons all day.

• 18:46Tom Ellsworth?

  And a gated house where?

• 18:48Speaker 05

  Where, yeah, where, in, in Beverly Hills, probably. And then she's comparing it to women in Iran who get beaten to death for showing their hair because their hat is wrong and gay people getting thrown off of buildings. I am sick and tired of Whoopi Goldberg, I mean, Rob, this is a long clip of it. But, and, and the audience clapping. Like, what are you clapping about? I'm, I'm tired of the victim shit. It drives me crazy, bro. And it's, and it's slow. But let's just remember-

• 19:14Speaker 07

  The Iranians literally throw gay people off of buildings.

• 19:17Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 19:17Speaker 07

  They don't consider basic human rights. Listen, here's the thing. Let's not do that, because if we start with that, we have been known in this country to tie gay folks to the car.

• 19:29Speaker 05

  What?

• 19:30Speaker 07

  Where the Iranian regime is two days from 25 is nothing compared to the United States. They used to just hang in black people. It is not even the same. I could have stepped foot wearing this outfit. That's not what you mean to say. It is the same. No, it's not. The year 2025 in the United States is nothing like if I stepped foot wearing this outfit in Tehran right now. I'm sorry. No, I can't have my hair showing. I can't wear a skirt. I can't have my arms out. I'm telling you.

• 19:56Speaker 05

  You can't get raped.

• 19:57Speaker 07

  I literally said it was up to the Iranian people. Yes, it is up to them. And that's why I am saying

• 20:03Speaker 05

  Oh, God.

• 20:03Speaker 07

  that it is the same.

• 20:05Speaker 05

  It's the same.

• 20:05Speaker 07

  Murdering someone for their difference is not good whoever does it. It's not good.

• 20:13Speaker 05

  That's an applause break.

• 20:14Speaker 07

  So that's why I said you weren't saying what I heard was not what you meant. I think it's very different to live in the United States in 2025 than it is to live in Iran. Not if you're black.

• 20:26Speaker 05

  Not if you're black.

• 20:27Speaker 07

  Not if you're black.

• 20:27Speaker 05

  What is she talking about? She is the main host of the show.

• 20:32Speaker 07

  Let me tell you about being in this country. This is the greatest country in the world. But, yeah, I know that. I know that. And we all know that. But every day, we are worried. Do we have to be worried about our kids? Are our kids gonna get shot because they're running through somebody's neighborhood?

• 20:50Speaker 05

  What the hell is she even talking about?

• 20:52Speaker 07

  They are not big deals, and I don't mean to say they're not big deals to you. Because we're all women, and they are not doing well there either.

• 20:58Speaker 05

  Unbelievable. A multimillionaire saying that that's a problem in America. What a, oh, God.

• 21:06Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, this is why the show Her Take is gonna whoop on these guys. I can't wait for a moment. Wait till 27, 28, guys, when 27, 28 comes. You know how many people tagged me yesterday on video saying, you know, this is Pat needs to fire Adam. This is why they're a pro-Zionist. Patrick takes money from Israel and all this other stuff. And guess what happened? You know who at the same time was representing a show on us? Anna Kasparian. Do you realize how many places you can have some there? There couldn't be two people more on opposite sides? That we are comfortable having on a show called Her Take? So people can have a debate? And it was a fiery debate. Adam went on there and you know, him and I had a conversation about one of the things that he did that an article

• 21:51Patrick Bet-David?

  was just written about. But out of all the things that happened with the show, the fight was one of the best fights ever. We like entertaining opposing ideas. It was such a great, I can't wait for Her Take in 2028 to have the kind of voice where ladies around the world are saying, finally, a, a show that speaks on my behalf and it's four or five different voices. I'm excited about that. But when you watch Whoopi? This language of victimhood mentality, like Whoopi, you don't think this is getting old? Like you don't think this is getting old of always like? Oh my God, but you don't understand what it is if you're black. You don't understand that is? She, what's the other girl's name that was making the argument? What is the other?

• 22:29Speaker 05

  Farah?

• 22:30Patrick Bet-David?

  What is her name? Farah? Is she around here?

• 22:31Speaker 05

  Her last name is, sounds Middle Eastern, right Rob?

• 22:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Is she Persian?

• 22:34Speaker 05

  Uh, Farah the View.

• 22:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, where is she from?

• 22:37Speaker 05

  Alyssa Farah.

• 22:38Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I don't think she's-

• 22:39Speaker 05

  Political, maybe she's married to a guy.

• 22:41Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 22:41Speaker 05

  Early born in Los Angeles.

• 22:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Farah is a Persian name, but I don't know if she's Persian.

• 22:44Speaker 05

  Where are her parents from, Robbie? Oh.

• 22:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, that, that is-

• 22:49Speaker 05

  That guy looks like an uncle.

• 22:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, that's her dad.

• 22:51Speaker 05

  That's her dad.

• 22:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Where is he from though? He was a, you know, far right.

• 22:54Speaker 05

  Far right.

• 22:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Barack Obama's, yeah, I don't know where he's from.

• 22:56Speaker 05

  He's on Patterson, New Jersey. Where is he? Yeah, well, why the?

• 22:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, I don't know where he's at, but that mustache is a legit Middle Eastern mod. That's a-

• 23:02Speaker 05

  A Christian-

• 23:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Strong.

• 23:03Speaker 05

  Farah.

• 23:05Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a strong mustache. Go back to that, I just want to see it one more time.

• 23:07Speaker 05

  Look at that snatch, get in there. Look at that truck. That's a-

• 23:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Freaking-

• 23:09Speaker 05

  Tom Selleck, homie.

• 23:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Legit. You can hide money in there, by the way. So, no, but listen, when I, when I hear that language of, uh,

• 23:17Speaker 05

  Victim.

• 23:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, victim and mentality, it just gets super, super old to keep hearing things like that. Tom? Economy, okay? Let's go into economy with some of the stories that we got here on business.

• 23:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me see which one I want to go to. Let's go to this one first. I'm gonna go to this one first. Fed holds interest rates steady for fourth time in a row. Some were saying, maybe we get a quarter, maybe we don't get a quarter. You even said possibly, but you were more leaning towards nothing's gonna happen, and nothing happened. As usual, Tom is right on these types of issues that's coming up. This is Jerome Powell getting up there to give the announcement that nobody wants to hear, but I think he's doing the right thing. Go ahead, Rob.

• 24:01Speaker 00

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• 25:01Patrick Bet-David?

  It's quiet in there. He's a librarian.

• 25:10Speaker 05

  Good afternoon. Hello. My colleagues and I remain squarely focused on achieving our dual mandate goals of maximum employment and stable prices for the benefit of the American people. He didn't wait. Despite elevated uncertainty, the economy is in a solid position. Oh my god. And employment rate remains low, and the labor market is at or near maximum employment. Inflation has come down a great deal, but has been running somewhat above our 2% longer run objective. In support of our goals, today, the Federal Open Market Committee decided to leave our policy interest rate unchanged.

• 25:45Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there.

• 25:46Tom Ellsworth?

  And that's it.

• 25:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. By the way, it took three seconds for us to know that he's not changing anything. Tom, thoughts? What's going on here?

• 25:52Tom Ellsworth?

  So, here's what's going on with the Fed. And I hate to say it this way, they don't have enough stats that are bad enough. And he just said, we're at near full employment. Yeah, we're only at 4.12 to 4.5, depending how you measure unemployment. That's low. Means a lot of people there. And you've got, um, housing isn't moving, and so we need the interest rate to move housing, but do, does the stock market need the interest rate right now? Well, would companies take advantage of lower interest rates and go, and go get loans for factories and machines and all that stuff and property? Sure they would. But do you need to do it right now? Look, there's part of me that says, I wish he would have done it, because I think that

• 26:35Tom Ellsworth?

  will stay ahead of what's going on in housing, and that, because housing's got a, a tough moment right now, and I really think housing needs that. But if you look at the Fed dot plot up here, and the Fed dot plot is all the Fed Board of Governors saying where they believe it's gonna go. So they're allowed, Pat, to anonymously vote in a dot pot. This is all the Fed Board of Governors, and you can see the projection is one half of a percent below where we are now. So for year end, they're thinking two quarter point cuts, and that's what the Wall Street Journalist chart comes from there saying. And they're saying it's a 25% chance, the dot plot says, the cut comes in July, and a 65% chance that the cut comes in September.

• 27:18Tom Ellsworth?

  September, back to school, end of third quarter. So what's going on right now is the Fed is letting the economy settle, but there's something that was in there that he said deeper into his bedtime reading, because if you listen to him speak about this, you, you can fall asleep. I almost did. And did you notice that the, uh, that the, very few people cover the Fed, there's like, there's like nine media people in there, and you can hear they don't make a lot of noise. But he says, we-

• 27:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Haven't been able to feel like we've learned a great deal yet. And we haven't been through a situation like this. And I have to be humble, here it is Pat, be humble about our ability to forecast it, which we don't have, so we need to see actual data. So what he's saying is, I'm not putting a streetlight at the intersection. I'm gonna wait till there's a crash. Now I have data, and then I'll put a streetlight at the intersection. That's what the Fed is saying right now. And the housing market needs some help. I reached out to Bill Pulte, who's in the President's administration. And he's pointing out, as he has, in lockstep with the President, we need interest rates to come down, and we've done our job on inflation.

• 28:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Inflation is down, employment is there. So why not give a quarter point cut ahead of maybe any slowing of the economy or anything coming in the second half? So I agree with Bill on that. And so I wish we could have had a cut, but I understand why we didn't.

• 28:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm okay with it. Is this the President talking?

• 28:55Speaker 05

  Did you see what Trump said about Powell and how he feels about him?

• 28:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I know, he's probably not gonna be happy about it.

• 28:59Speaker 05

  You're gonna like it, you're gonna like it.

• 29:00Tom Ellsworth?

  And I think this was also he was asked about.

• 29:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, I can't hear it. Go ahead, Rob, go back, go for it.

• 29:05Speaker 05

  Can't hear it.

• 29:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I can't hear Rob.

• 29:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Now we have a man that just refuses to lower the Fed rate. Just refuses to do it. And he's not a smart person. I don't even think he's that political. I think he hates me, but that's okay, you know, he should. He should. I call him every name in the book, trying to get him to do something. I've been nice to him. I do it always, I don't know how to sell. I've been so nice to him, fellas, you wouldn't believe. Let's have dinner. Too late, I'd call him too late. Come on, too late, let's have dinner. I do it every way in the book. I'm nasty, I'm nice. Nothing works. He's just a stupid person.

• 29:40Patrick Bet-David?

  But uh

• 29:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, eh, you can, Trump is the only one that can praise you and shit on you in the same sentence. You think he's a good guy and I hate his guts.

• 29:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm telling you, I'm telling you, Trump is not wrong. Trust me, Trump is not wrong. But I'm okay with one more month. We wait. I'm okay.

• 29:59Speaker 05

  But you think it will change in a month?

• 30:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah, it will. Oh, for sure it will. For sure it will. For sure. In the next sixty to ninety days, they're lowering the rates. For sure, they're doing that. And right now, you know, I think they needed this good news. Because they, they need some kind of good news to be given. This was desperately needed. The market needed it, his administration needed it. There's, it could have been a good, positive distraction that they needed it, but Powell is Powell. You know, Powell is the guy that is not motivated about a lot of different things. He just... By the way, what did Powell do before? What, what company was he? What was his career before? Rob, can you pull up Jerome Powell? Like, what was Jerome Powell's first job? Like, what? I actually want to know this guy's background.

• 30:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Jerome Powell, what did he do before? So DC, Powell, Princeton, George Washington lawyer, working on 35, which investment back in the mid-eighties, and who was he with in investment banking? Carlyle Group, so he worked with Rubenstein, okay? Because we had him on the podcast. Rubenstein was on a podcast. He, he runs a very good podcast. 1990, Powell briefly served under President George Bush. Powell left Carlyle Group in 05, founded Severn Capital Partners, a private investment company. He was an visiting scholar and bipartisan politician. Okay, so he's got the background. He became a Federal Reserve Board of Governors after being nominated by the post of President Obama in 2012. He was subsequently elevated to Chairman by President Trump, succeeding Janet Yon, and then nominated to position by Joe Biden. Powell built his reputation in Washington DC during Obama administration as a consensus builder and problem solver.

• 31:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, alright. So let's see what happens here. But I'm telling you, I'm very comfortable with it, and I know why President Trump would not be happy about it. I wouldn't be either if I was the President, but I don't think it's a bad thing. But with that being said, we have a special guest in the house that asks technical questions. I don't know why she does it. If we can please bring her in here. Uh, Nancy, are you here? Nancy, how are you? Come on in, you are right here. Let me stand up and welcome you. Great to meet you, Nancy.

• 31:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Hi, good morning, hi.

• 31:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Nice to meet you, Rob Sonnen. How are you? I'm good. Great to meet you.

• 32:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Pleasure to meet you. This is Vinny. Very nice to meet you. He's the troublemaker here, so. I thought I was the troublemaker. I'm sorry. Well, no, we know you are. We know you are. But it's great to have you. So I got a question for you, you know? We watch you to see, you know, how much ruckus and chaos you create sometimes. Why do you ask such a technical question from, you know, the former VP candidate, Tim Walz? I want to start off with this, if you don't mind, because this is an offensive question. I mean, you can ask some solo questions, but Rob, if you can play this. The audience is deeply concerned about your question. Go ahead, Rob.

• 32:39Speaker 03

  What is a woman?

• 32:43Speaker 03

  I... What is a woman, is the question. I'm not sure I understand the question here. Well, that... What do you want me to say? This is... I want you to say that a woman like me is an adult human female, that men can't become women. You guys are the party of violence, and you're the party erasing women. You don't respect us. You're a bigot. You're a misogynist. You're a sexist. Mr. Chairman, I yield back.

• 33:12Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, I was trying to listen carefully, and I had played it back a couple times, but you sounded upset.

• 33:19Patrick Bet-David?

  What happened?

• 33:20Speaker 03

  If I sounded pissed off, it's because I was. No, it's just like, I just, he just ended his presidential career. I mean, there is no 2028 for Tim Walz. I buried him that day. Now, you have all these witnesses, these people that come to these big committees before Congress. They testify under oath. It's very, very public. And they spend millions of dollars, millions of dollars to prepare for these hearings, for the toughest questions. What they're not ready for are for the dumbest questions, the most simple, most common sense questions. And so, this is just a thing I've taken up on. I just ask Democrats when they come before me, "What's a woman?" And they just cannot answer the question.

• 33:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Who have you noticed that is actually willing to be reasonable and give the answer?

• 34:03Speaker 03

  Nobody.

• 34:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you serious?

• 34:05Speaker 03

  I'm dead serious. And so, he sat there, and I was like, "Are you effing kidding me?" Like, he just, deer in a headlights. You were a heartbeat away from becoming the Vice President of the United States of America.

• 34:16Patrick Bet-David?

  That's scary.

• 34:17Speaker 03

  And you can't define... A woman, and if you can't define a woman, then you definitely can't define our rights as women. You definitely can't protect us as women. You can't protect our daughters. You can't protect me. I have no faith or confidence in you. And so for me, like, looking forward to 2028 and the next, you know, what's post-Trump, which I think is going to continue to be MAGA, but like, the common sense that Trump brings to the table, we are showcasing these people for being crazy. But here's this guy, I emasculated him so badly over the question. He's like, what do you want me to say?

• 34:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Did he talk to you afterwards? Like, was there a moment where you guys talked afterwards, or no?

• 34:56Speaker 03

  No, no, not, I mean, I, I mean, I embarrassed him. Was there, you know, like, he got completely emasculated, something I enjoy doing, by the way. I'll try not to do it here today.

• 35:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You enjoy doing that.

• 35:08Speaker 03

  I love it, yeah. I just, um, because they're just, they're not ready for the common sense question. They're not ready for the simple questions. And when he just sat there and he had no answer, and then he didn't understand the question, and then he said, what do you want me to say? And I'm like, oh my God, you're never going to be president. You will not be running in 2028. You're done.

• 35:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I don't know whether, you know, it was because of that question or not, if he would ever be president, because the way he handled himself in the debate with J.D. Vance, that was one of the, that's probably the worst debate performance I've ever seen, aside from Joe Biden's debate with the president, the first one where, within the first 30 seconds, you're like, this is not good. Remember how uncomfortable it was? He said he was a knucklehead. No, no, I'm not even talking about Tim Walz. I'm talking about Joe Biden against Trump, the first debate, where it was disturbing to watch it, so.

• 35:54Tom Ellsworth?

  The summer.

• 35:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so Nancy, question for you. Uh, uh, high school, who were you in high school? Were you always feisty? Were you always like this?

• 36:02Speaker 03

  Um, I, I would say I was a pretty normal, eh, a normal kid. I mean, I struggled with things, like, I failed biology one time, but I actually, I dropped out of high school. So I, I, when I was a junior, my third year, I dropped out of high school. My dad's a retired general, my mom was my, one of my schoolteachers at my high school. And, uh, they said, if you're going to stop going to school, you got to start going to work. So I picked up a job as a waitress at a waffle house on the side of the interstate back in 1995. That's where I got my. Start.

• 36:30Patrick Bet-David?

  This is in Carolina?

• 36:31Speaker 03

  South Carolina.

• 36:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow, I, I, I lived in Columbia for

• 36:34Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 36:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, nine months when I was at Fort Jackson.

• 36:37Speaker 03

  I was gonna say what we did.

• 36:38Patrick Bet-David?

  First time I went to Waffle House was in South Carolina.

• 36:40Speaker 03

  Uh huh.

• 36:41Patrick Bet-David?

  They hadn't seen people who look like me in South Carolina.

• 36:44Speaker 03

  That's okay, yeah, they, they serve everybody and it's the best cup of coffee you can get for two bucks.

• 36:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 36:49Speaker 03

  There was no inflation at Waffle House.

• 36:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, we went hundreds of times. I love it. So Waffle House, so, so general, did dad teach the toughness when you're raised by general? Do I, is the visualization of a father like that is everything's organized, top notch, high pressure, high expectation?

• 37:04Speaker 03

  I would say he was tough as nails and that's probably where I get my attitude from and I just don't give a you know what. Um, but when I, I eventually would get my high school diploma, I would go to the Citadel. That place toughened me up. I mean, when you're getting a face full of mud and they're telling you to do a hundred pushups more. I mean, you just don't care if you have friends in Washington or not. When you're sitting in the barber's chair and they're cutting your hair to where you have like an inch on top, getting screamed at and everything, you just, there's, you know, nothing else to lose. Like that's what has hardened me for Congress because Congress is not for the weary. If you want to be effective, running for office these days, you might get shot. So it's a very, uh, sort of very violent, uh, environment right now.

• 37:47Speaker 03

  And I mean, people are always throwing phones in your faces, recording you, cursing you out, yelling at you, um, a lot of times. And so it's, there's, and when you have very powerful people who've come after you, come after me, spending millions of dollars to try to get me unelected and I win by record numbers. Uh, you gotta be tough for that, be able to do that.

• 38:07Patrick Bet-David?

  When, when are you planning on being a little bit more competitive? You know, like, when do you think that fire is gonna show up? Because we've been waiting for it.

• 38:13Speaker 03

  You've been waiting for it. I was, boy, I came out of the womb breathing fire, walking on coals.

• 38:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I kinda see it, I, I believe it. So, uh, let's go to this other one. You had, you had a clip here because there, there is the Nancy Mace, you know, the greatest, uh, the greatest hits. Rob, there's one where, you know, you, you wanted to say this word over and over and over and over again. Watch this one here. Just a beautiful setting here, folks. Watch this, go for it.

• 38:40Tom Ellsworth?

  has used a phrase that is considered a slur

• 38:44Speaker 05

  Oh god.

• 38:44Tom Ellsworth?

  in the LGBTQ community and the transgender community. Let me please finish without interruption.

• 38:52Speaker 03

  tranny, tranny, tranny. I don't really care. You want penises in women's bathrooms and I'm not gonna have it. Okay. No, thank you. Let, let, let, let the gentleman state his parliamentary inquiry.

• 39:04Patrick Bet-David?

  How, how, how does a basic common sense issue like this, how do they keep fighting this? Like, don't they realize most of America, including Democrats, are not for this, but they keep pushing it?

• 39:15Speaker 03

  They're doubling, they're tripling down for one half of 1%, which if you just read yesterday, the Democrat National Committee is broke and they're losing donors left and right. And I think it's because they are doubling down on issues that average people, average Americans, average Democrats don't agree with. I don't know anyone in their right mind that would allow a well, fully intact male to undress next to their 12-year-old daughter in a locker room or shower next to her. That is just not a normal thing. And that's what the tranny movement, that's what this has become. It's like grooming, it's sexual, it's a fetish. And they are the party of violence and they're party of pedophiles, the party of grooming and all those things.

• 39:56Speaker 03

  And it's now mainstream. And it's, you know, I'm a girl mom and I'm a woman and, you know, I'm, I'm very supportive. I voted for gay marriage and I would do it again. I believe in freedom, like as a Republican, as a conservative. The government shouldn't tell you who to marry, right? That I don't want them in your border or in your bedroom. That's the libertarian in me. But now this thing has gotten so far, you know, our rights are being erased. Women's rights, I think gay rights too, the trannies have taken over and, and for what? Your mental illness? Like, I'm not participating in your mental health crisis. Go talk to a therapist and don't find yourself in my private space because you're gonna be quickly escorted or dragged on out.

• 40:34Patrick Bet-David?

  How, i- i- in, in, in the world of, the world you're in, Congress, like I, you know, when you're in financial services, you're selling, you use your charm, your charisma, your looks, whatever you have, you use to try to get things done, right? How, how, how often is it folks on the opposite Side that disagree with you are super flirtatious with you. How often is it when there's policies going on and they come back and they try to, where you're able to win them over with looks, with charm and charisma? How often does that happen?

• 41:02Speaker 03

  Eh, not often. I mean, it happens occasionally, but not often. I mean, we are like, we're dug, we've dug our heels in. It's very partisan right now. It's more partisan than it's ever been. And, you know, I've done a lot of nonpartisan stuff, particularly on like technology and cybersecurity and everything where I get all Democrats and all Republicans to vote for it, but I've never seen it the way that it is right now. I mean, it's really-

• 41:24Patrick Bet-David?

  How long have you been in?

• 41:25Speaker 03

  Uh, I'm four years. I mean, it's gotten worse since I've-

• 41:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Even in the four years?

• 41:29Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, Jasmine Crockett, wow, like that lady, uh, that woman's off the rails.

• 41:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You guys don't hang out on the weekends?

• 41:35Speaker 03

  Oh, hell no. I mean, no, that, no, that would not be a good situation. We'll just put it that way.

• 41:41Patrick Bet-David?

  If you guys, you guys run into each other? When you do, is there any conversation or nothing?

• 41:46Speaker 03

  Not with her. I mean, I, uh, when I first came in, I tried to give people the benefit of the doubt and talk to them, but they've just gone so far off the rails. I won't have a conversation with AOC. I won't talk to Rashida Tlaib. I won't talk to, Jasmine Crockett and I will not be friends unless she can get her shit together and be a normal human. The last time I really heard from her in a hearing, she was telling me as a rape survivor that my fear was fake, that I, that I shouldn't have fear of men in the, in private spaces as a rape survivor. And I lost my shit and I told her we would take it outside. That's how angry it made me. So, um, I have very little patience for any kind of BS right now, just none, zero, because our country is on the brink precipice really of going one direction or the other.

• 42:30Speaker 03

  And I'm following Donald Trump to the end of the earth to make sure we get back to where our country used to be.

• 42:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Is, what clip is this, Rob, that you got here?

• 42:36Speaker 03

  Oh, that's that one.

• 42:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, let's, let's see this one. Are struggling right now, so she gonna keep saying trans, trans, trans.

• 42:44Speaker 03

  So that people will feel threatened and child, listen, I want y'all to tell me whether or not. I am no child. Do not call me a child. I am no child. Don't even start. I want to find out which of those emails actually have. Chairman, I am reclaiming my time. You will not do that. I am not a child. I am not a child. Chairman, I am reclaiming my time.

• 43:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Mr. Chairman, the committee is not.

• 43:06Speaker 05

  Oh, I love it. Oh, I love it. No kidding. And they all lost their minds. They're like, what is she threatening a sitting member? It's like, shut up.

• 43:13Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a broken playbook that does that the consequence of the end of the playbook is increased lunacy and partisanship. Because the playbook is simple from the Democrat side. Step one, find a victim or invent one. Step two, be seen as the voice of the victim and then try to win the empathy voters of everybody that says, look how noble those Democrats are, that they're doing for this victim. But they're inventing a victim. And then what they have to do is, once you've invented the victim, you have to actually construct something of an argument that gets more loony the deeper you go into victims that aren't victims and what you've invented. To the point where, you know, you look and then CNN, you see Harry Enton on CNN, he reads all the stats.

• 43:55Tom Ellsworth?

  He even says, he says, look, Hispanics have gone this way and the African Americans have gone this way. They're losing their grip on yesterday's victims, so they have to invent tomorrow's victims. And then you have to go with down home language like that and be actually not very, you know, she didn't look very mature, Crockett does, to just make an elegant point in the halls of the legislature. And so it looks more loony and guess what? Then tomorrow, now we gotta find a different victim and we gotta even go weirder and we go wider.

• 44:30Speaker 03

  Let's add one more step to that because now in the last two weeks is get arrested and get elected. That's what they're doing. That's what Democrats are doing.

• 44:38Tom Ellsworth?

  We'll be seen as the voice of the victim and now get arrested for it.

• 44:42Speaker 03

  Assault people get arrested and get out of jail free card and that'll get them elected. I think this is a failing plan. People see it. It's crazy. They're lunatics.

• 44:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Tommy, so just to make sure we get on the record, you're saying you're not going to support. Jasmine Crockett in 2028, that's what you're saying. I just want to make sure. She does not have your vote.

• 44:57Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, I'm at 22.6% and dropping by the minute.

• 45:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, okay, got it. So I want to read you a story with Ilhan Omar.

• 45:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm sorry, so that was negative 22.

• 45:06Patrick Bet-David?

  So we got Ilhan Omar, who is, you know, somebody you hang out with a lot in the building.

• 45:12Speaker 03

  Her office is next door to mine.

• 45:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it literally? Is it literally? So you guys see each other regularly?

• 45:17Speaker 03

  I walk by it every day when I'm up there.

• 45:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow, so Ilhan Omar claims US is turning into one of the worst countries in the world. I don't know if you heard about this or not. So far-left Representative Ilhan Omar stated in an interview on Democracy Now! YouTube page, published Friday, "I mean, I grew up in a dictatorship and I don't even remember ever witnessing anything like that, to have a democracy beacon of hope for the world to now be turned into one of the, you know, one of the worst countries where the military are now in the streets without any regard to the people's constitutional rights." So this is, is this the clip, Rob? Yes, sir. Go ahead and play the clip on what she's talking about.

• 45:50Speaker 06

  To be coming out of our country. I mean, I grew up in a dictatorship and I don't even remember ever witnessing anything like that, to have a democracy, a beacon of hope for the world to now be turned into one of the, you know, one of the worst countries where the military are in our streets without any regard for people's constitutional rights, while our president is spending millions of dollars prompting himself up like a failed dictator with a military parade.

• 46:30Speaker 06

  It is really shocking and it should be a wake-up call for all Americans to say, "This is not the country we were born in, this is not the country we believe in, this is not the country our founding fathers imagined, and this is not the country that is supported by our constitution, our ideals, our values."

• 46:52Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it, Rob. There should be a limit for it. So what do you think about what she just said?

• 46:57Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, this isn't the country she was born in. That's my first thought, because she just talked about that. But one, she's saying, she's saying she- It is the fact, it's the fact. She's saying she hates the military. So to our men and women in uniform, number one, I want to say, that's just un-American. We support a military. The parade was one of the greatest things I've seen in my lifetime. But quite frankly, I'm fine with putting on our one-way flight back to Somalia. You don't like it here? You think it's so bad? You have a dictator as a president who, by the way, loves freedom and loves the Constitution, loves democracy, and he's protecting it every single day. She can just go back to Somalia.

• 47:29Patrick Bet-David?

  True question for you.

• 47:29Speaker 05

  Don't forget her brother.

• 47:30Speaker 03

  They can go together.

• 47:32Patrick Bet-David?

  What I'm going with that is,

• 47:33Speaker 03

  And the new husband.

• 47:33Patrick Bet-David?

  How much do you, how much, is there a conversation behind closed doors? Uh, because if anybody would know, you guys would know. Did she really marry her brother? There is yes, no, it's all these things.

• 47:43Speaker 03

  I wasn't in Congress when that went down. I am not sure. But I know it's, I know it's the rumor out there, but I've never weighed in on it.

• 47:51Speaker 05

  And I just, and just recently, the marriage certificate was online and it says his name, but people are like, yeah, but that's not her brother, but it's kinda looks like it allegedly would be her brother.

• 48:01Patrick Bet-David?

  On the marriage certificate.

• 48:02Speaker 05

  It's kinda weird. But you know what they call, but she's in Minnesota's, what, fifth district? In Minnesota, like, can anything, is anything positive coming out of there from the Tim Walz to her? But they call it Little Mogadishu. They call like, the amount of people that have been in trouble or on the terror watch list in that area, that's not pro-American. Trust me. And if she had it her way, it'd be freaking Sharia, they call it Shariaville. That's what they call that. If you let people like that take over and run the show, that's what the show is gonna become. And if you don't like this place, it is so easy. All you have to do, you could go to Orbitz, get a flight and get the, out of here.

• 48:35Speaker 03

  I've seen parades in her district and they don't have the American flag.

• 48:37Speaker 05

  No, they're Somali.

• 48:38Speaker 03

  The Somali flags. And it's not.

• 48:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you say they don't have American flags?

• 48:42Speaker 03

  When they have parades and do all their stuff, protests.

• 48:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think they would have a lot of American.

• 48:47Speaker 03

  No, in her district, no, they're all flying the Somali flag. And this is not Somalia. This is the United States of America. You don't like it, you can leave.

• 48:52Speaker 05

  Yep, bingo.

• 48:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and here's a question though, that I got for you. So, um, you know how California or New York or Illinois, these guys try to turn Texas blue, right? So they would send people there to start working on a plan to turn Texas blue. They're long-term, long-term thinkers. It'll be a ten,

• 49:10Speaker 03

  Like the Chinese CCP.

• 49:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So they're like, let's turn Texas blue. Let's turn Florida blue. Florida turned more Republican because of everything that happened during COVID. Is there any suspicion of how long term they're thinking? Where, you know, there's this discussion about the guy, whether he was from ISIS or one of these Hezbollah laws where he said, "The difference between us and you is, you guys have expensive watches, where you can, you know, you brag about how much, you know, your watch is. We have all the time in the world. We will wait 10, 20, 30 years to seek vengeance on you, right? Do you guys amongst the community, when you talk to each other, sense that there's a strategy to move different Ilhan Omars in different cities to go into political, you know,

• 49:56Patrick Bet-David?

  become congressmen, to have more control in cities so they can gradually spread this ideology amongst different cities and states?

• 50:03Speaker 03

  It's not at the congressional level. It's definitely at the local level. Look at that guy who's running for, yeah, the local mayoral races, school board races, municipal races, city council races, and where those, where they are turning those city councils like neon blue, they're trying to get illegals to vote in their elections. Look at the guy who's running for mayor in New York, I can't say his name, but that socialist guy or whatever that AOC is supporting, but they're, they do it differently. We're always top down as Republicans, thinking about the biggest office and then on down, but we have forgotten bottom up, which is where they have succeeded, and they've put these commies, these socialists, these people that are crazy and un-American at the lower level of offices that have more control over the people.

• 50:48Speaker 03

  Because the government closest to the people is one with the most control, which is the scariest part.

• 50:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, it's a phenomenal strategy. If you're gonna be doing it, you know, they're doing it the right way, they'll start, because that's shaking hands. That's where you're in, shaking hands, versus you're talking on camera. That's right. So you're shaking hands, you're doing it. So, long term, if this continues, what is your biggest concern with folks like Ilhan Omar or Zohran Mamdani or others that are climbing the ladder and, you know, working their way up? What's your concern long term? 10, 20, 30 years on what America could look like if they continue doing this?

• 51:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, it's the importation of these people with this ideology. And it's, it goes beyond Ilhan Omar and AOC. It's like, we're importing this ideology into our country. By having the free wide open borders that we've had for the last four years and it's bad because just last week in South Carolina Conway, South Carolina, small town, South Carolina. A kid was just arrested because he affiliated with ISIS is planning a terrorist attack. This kid look, I don't know, there he is. Um, you know, young guy affiliated with ISIS, planning a terrorist attack in small town, South Carolina. So the importation of this ideology, which I believe is coming from illegal immigration largely. Uh, and then spreading with the Democrat Party.

• 52:04Speaker 03

  They're being brainwashed into this thing and this is like a, this is like, this is a cancer and we cannot let it metastasize. Well, I, you gotta have law and order. You gotta have people who are pushing back hard the way that Trump has. You're not here legally, get the hell out and just with everything, um, pushing back on all the, the crazy Democrat policies that have allowed this thing to fester, especially with the trans issues too. They've allowed that to become so mainstream. We're literally going to have to push people back with our words, people are going to have to get arrested, like you have to draw a line in the sand. And you've got to carry that line, you can't pull it back.

• 52:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You're, you're in this world, so question for you. You're seeing what's going on in UK, right? To the point where they've lost control, you know, London top name. You know, kid name is Mohammed in a country like UK. And you're, you're now at a point where it's the tipping point where we've lost control. There's nothing at this point that they can do about it minus chaos, which will be, you know, they will be scared shitless to do that because of the amount of media attention it's going to bring. When you watch what's going on there and then watch what's going on here, our constitution. We have freedom of, of speech, you have, you know, uh, uh, second amendment, you know, uh, yeah, arms. You got freedom of assembly, you got, you know, religion that I can have, whatever, you know, faith I want to have.

• 53:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't put a stop to it, even in Plano, when they were building that facility, the big facility that Greg Abbott came out and said, well, they don't even have the permits and they don't have this, so what, they're eventually going to get the permits. It's going to take a year, two years, three years, they're going to get it. As ambitious and competitive as they are, they're coming to a city near you. It's going to happen. There's a guy that was on TV explaining the fact that any church in Florida that's shutting down, they're buying it and they're turning into...

• 53:51Speaker 03

  Really?

• 53:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh yeah, in Texas too. Oh Rob, play this clip here, Rob.

• 53:54Speaker 03

  I saw the thing in Texas.

• 53:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh no, no, you gotta see this clip here because they're building... The Epic Center is one thing, but the part that matters the most is the ones that they're doing it locally. Watch this one here, go for it.

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• 55:06Speaker 05

  We are buying these churches.

• 55:08Patrick Bet-David?

  This is Florida.

• 55:09Speaker 05

  We bought three churches so far, converted them to messages. And now we have one we are buying with a school to make it... Because we have to serve the same people. The people who were part of that community, one day they will be Muslims. So we'll make it into a messjid and an Islamic school for our children and their children, Insha Allah. Hundred years ago, they invaded the Muslim world and they built missionaries.

• 55:42Speaker 06

  schools and destroyed Islamic schools and mosques. Today, we bring the favor back. Turn their churches into mosques and their schools into Islamic schools. Bring the light of Islam to here. We're able to buy, ready to go. Institutions that have been there for a long time, but they emptied out. And now it's his time to be filled.

• 56:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Robbie composite.

• 56:10Speaker 03

  That's crazy.

• 56:11Patrick Bet-David?

  For a man who's a Christian, myself, I got four kids, you know, I'm a Christian, but also in America, the way the constitution is written, they're not doing anything illegal. So, you know, you could say, you know, the religion of Islam doesn't work with Western ideology, which is true. Many people would agree with that. It does not, the way they have Sharia law and what they'd like to see if they have more control. But there's nothing you can do about it. So if it's math. Like, you know, you look at the number when Warren Buffett.

• 56:38Speaker 03

  You can ban Sharia law and make sure that it, that they're not doing that on their property.

• 56:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Not if, not if they eventually have more because, okay, so compound interest, this is how compound interest works. Warren Buffett is today worth a hundred and sixty billion dollars. Okay. Do you know what he was worth at fifty two years old? Three thirty six. He was only worth three hundred thirty six million dollars. That's a lot of money, but three hundred thirty six million dollars.

• 56:58Speaker 03

  That year, yeah.

• 56:59Patrick Bet-David?

  But from three thirty six to now a hundred and sixty billion, compound interest, like, he probably didn't think, that's his net worth. That's what happened to him. If you look at that. Look how small it was and then boom, skyrocketing, right?

• 57:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:10Patrick Bet-David?

  You take this chart. And you put this in America. And say, what's going to happen with how much they're going to grow? If they grow. And then next thing you know, they got a hundred fifty people in Congress in the next thirty, forty years. America's no longer America. So how many people are sitting here being intentional about what this could look like in the next twenty, thirty, forty years?

• 57:31Speaker 03

  We're not. We're not at all. Not at all. And that's why you've got to push back. I mean, that's what little no-go do you show what's going on in Minnesota? They've allowed that to happen. I can tell you in South Carolina, if I'm alive, that ain't never happening in my state, ever. Like, I would never, I would go in there and make sure that they're not, uh, brainwashing people, that they're not

• 57:51Patrick Bet-David?

  How would you do it?

• 57:52Speaker 03

  I'd take the law in there, law enforcement, onto the property, make sure that they're not, uh, doing Sharia law. That would not be a thing.

• 57:58Patrick Bet-David?

  But they won't do it, though. They, they won't, the only time they can do Sharia law is once they're in charge. So, I don't think they worry about somebody like you.

• 58:07Speaker 03

  I think it happens in the shadows. And I think, you know, once you get people who've witnessed it or can report it and be anonymous, you go in that way and do it. That's the only way you can do it right now, is making sure you ban Sharia law and make sure that it's not a thing in that community. And you arrest those who are breaking the law. That is the only way you do it, but you have to have people with a backbone. You have to have a legislature who will say, no Sharia law, that it's illegal. You gotta have that law on the books, either in your state constitution or in statute. And then you've gotta have enough law enforcement to be able to make sure the law's being enforced. Because there is an effort in South Carolina, near the Charlotte area, to do something like this, too. And that, that worries me. That's been going on for over a decade. So, uh, you know, we are seeing it even in smaller states.

• 58:47Patrick Bet-David?

  If they're doing it all legally, there's nothing you can do about it. If it's all legal, they have more kids than you. If they have more, you know, partners than you, like, you know, I'd like to have 20 kids. I got four of them. My wife is done. She's like, babe, you gotta find another person. I'm like, Liv, we were in the Middle East, I would have four or five. Maybe we gotta move to Minnesota is what I'm thinking. We go over there and we're like, hey, let's, let's have those 20 kids.

• 59:11Speaker 03

  No laws in Minnesota.

• 59:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, exactly. They're Utah, but it depends on what, what strategy you want to take. But, you know, when, when you see this, they're doing everything the right way. They're not breaking the law, okay? They're not doing anything that they can't do. They're making more kids, they're converting people, they're being fanatical, loud about it, so they're marketing and selling, you know, hey, come, this is what we're gonna do if you come with us, we're gonna give you backing. And you're sitting there being tolerant about it and you're following the Constitution. Nancy, I hate to say this, I don't think there's anything you can do if they keep growing legally. I think it is a matter of time purely due to compound interest. Unless if somebody steps up and does something real about it, I don't think the current Constitution allows you.

• 59:54Speaker 03

  What was something real about it? How would you define real?

• 59:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, that's your world. That's why I have you here. I'm a regular guy. I'm just an innocent guy that's a business guy.

• 1:00:00Speaker 03

  I support churches. I support my church, which is planting churches. So it's the same kind of thing. We as Christians in our faith, we plant churches, not just here in the United States, but all around the world. So for people of faith like you, Jewish faith, Christian faith, whatever that faith is, planting churches, planting synagogues, we have to do the same thing too. And we've been doing it for thousands of years and have to continue doing it. I'm a big fan of our church and the church plantings. Our church, Seacoast Church in South Carolina, has planted over a thousand churches worldwide. So we have to continue to spread the faith, our faith, our Christian faith.

• 1:00:33Patrick Bet-David?

  We're not having enough kids though, so.

• 1:00:34Speaker 03

  Oh, we're not. We're definitely, I have two.

• 1:00:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta get one more.

• 1:00:37Speaker 03

  I know. I'm almost 50 though, so I think I'm out of juice.

• 1:00:41Patrick Bet-David?

  There was characters in the Bible that were having kids in their 80s and 90s. I tell that to my wife. It doesn't work. Every time I try to use it.

• 1:00:46Tom Ellsworth?

  It's never gonna work.

• 1:00:47Patrick Bet-David?

  But you know what I'm asking? I mean, to me, I think about, Tom, are you processing what I'm saying on how, you know, I think we talked about this in Kentucky a couple of weeks ago. Where did you end up with this?

• 1:00:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Where I end up with it is, you know, you have two choices and it's a very binary choice. You have the battle of battles in the United States to stand up and say, we have freedom of religion, but this one, long-term, is a non-starter. That is the battle of battles and that's where it is. And otherwise, they'll use the law and...

• 1:01:27Tom Ellsworth?

  They will very legally expand their numbers and then go see what happens. You think little Mogadishu is an issue. Wait until there's 50 of those individuals in Congress. And suddenly that whole wing of Congress, well, there's little Mogadishu, the whole Congress. So the battle of battles is to stand up and say, hang on, we do have freedom of religion. That was built at a time that this, this, this, this, this was happening.

• 1:01:53Speaker 03

  For Christianity.

• 1:01:54Tom Ellsworth?

  For, for our faith and for pilgrims. And remember, you know, they'll say, hey, you know, the Muslims are religious zealots with guns. Well, who are the pilgrims? They weren't exactly unarmed peasants. And so that's where it is. It's turning the page and saying, this doesn't fly and we have to create frameworks and legislation. Because otherwise, the, the long-term outcome of it is immigration, procreation, assimilation. And finally, then you get conflict on the legal forums and say, wait, why did we let this happen? Because the weeds, the weeds grew in the, in the field and you, you didn't make a decision back then.

• 1:02:35Patrick Bet-David?

  So check this out. Here, here's, here's something that Tom just prompted that it made me think about. There's an insurance company out there called Thrivant, okay? Thrivant is a fraternal insurance company. It's a Christian benefit society. The way you get an insurance policy with them is you have to admit you're a Christian. Okay? So if you don't and you have to read something out to them, or else you don't get it. We were almost about to get a contract with them. The moment said you have to say this, we're like, so not only is life insurance already so hard to sell? At the end of it, I would say, okay, you want to, here, let's hold hands and let's pray real quick before you get qualified for this. It's tough to do that, right? But in countries that are Muslim-driven countries, I don't know how many Christians can move up politically.

• 1:03:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if I have to have a certain denomination. I think if somebody is coming in, like, you know, hey, you're in America, you want to become a citizen. You gotta be able to answer these certain questions that you go through, whatever the 10, 20 questions they are. You know, who's this, who's the vice president, what is this legislative, what are the three branches? Okay, great.

• 1:03:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe not for citizenship, but if you're gonna go run for office, Congress, Senate, all that stuff, these are the values that we have now. I know that's gonna scare the crap out of everybody because they're like, "Well, Thomas Jefferson was an atheist and this one." "Well, he's not a atheist, he was really technically this." I get it. He's a atheist. I do think there needs to be something in place where, you know, an ideology that just straight up doesn't work with America, you can't come and create laws. Period. You cannot come and create laws. And if we create that locally, state level, I'm gonna get so much hate for saying this. I'm gonna get so much hate for saying this. But to me, if somebody sits there and says, you know, "I don't think it's that big of a deal, you

• 1:04:20Patrick Bet-David?

  know, it's just we're gonna go out there and focus on the issues today." I'm a long-term thinker. I think this is gonna be a top-five issue in the next 30 years. I think it'll be a top-five issue in the next 30 years. And everyone's gonna say, "What do we do about it now?" You know what, you know what you can do about it at that time? It'll be too late. Nothing. You can't do shit about it.

• 1:04:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:36Patrick Bet-David?

  It's too late. Because the decisions weren't made today. And too often, all we think about is, "I'm paying my bills, I got my life, everything is good, everything is groovy, I'm straight." Okay, boom. Fast forward, you'll be, 30 years is gonna come like this. I didn't think I was gonna be 46 this quickly. I thought I was gonna be 46, maybe a little longer than 46 years, right? I thought it was gonna take about 80 years to be 46 years old. But time goes by fast. So anyways, I was just curious to know what you were gonna say about this. Now, so you got a clip on YouTube that didn't get 3 million views, 4 million views, 5 million. You got a clip, I don't know if you know this or not, it's got 61 million views.

• 1:05:08Speaker 03

  Is this the Twitter?

• 1:05:10Patrick Bet-David?

  No, this is this one.

• 1:05:11Speaker 03

  Oh, Hunter Biden?

• 1:05:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Play this clip.

• 1:05:14Speaker 03

  16 million?

• 1:05:14Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, not 16 million, 61 million views.

• 1:05:18Speaker 03

  The Hunter Biden one?

• 1:05:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you go back and show her?

• 1:05:20Speaker 03

  Oh, I didn't know that. I thought it was the vaccine one.

• 1:05:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you just go back and put this on there to see this? This clip went off the charts. I don't give a fuck what you think. Okay, not that one, Rob. Rob is listening to hip-hop. Rob, were you listening to 50 Cent? Hardcore gangster that we're trying to get it out of him. Let's listen to this first, and then we'll find it. Go for it, Rob.

• 1:05:37Speaker 03

  Where did you go to medical school? I did not go to medical school. Oh, that's Twitter one. I'm sorry? I did not go to medical school. That's what I thought. Why do you think you or anyone else at Twitter have the medical expertise to censor a doctor's expert opinion? Our policies regarding COVID were designed to protect-

• 1:05:56Speaker 03

  Individuals we were seeing. You guys censored Harvard educated doctors, Stanford educated doctors, doctors that are educated in the best places in the world and you silenced those voices. Did the US government ever contact you or anyone at Twitter to pressure Twitter to moderate or censor certain tweets? Yes or no?

• 1:06:17Speaker 05

  Received legal demands to remove content from the platform from the US government and governments all around the world.

• 1:06:23Speaker 03

  Thank God for Matt Taibbi, thank God for Elon Musk for allowing to show us the world that Twitter was basically a subsidiary of the FBI.

• 1:06:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause that, Rob. So when are you running for governor?

• 1:06:36Speaker 03

  I have to make the decision.

• 1:06:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to make the decision?

• 1:06:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, I can't say I'm a candidate because then I have to declare, so we're thinking about it. And I'm dead serious about it. I just, you know, we're a red state and it's supposed to be law and order and conservative, but it's not. I mean, I just found a couple of weeks ago Clemson University had 15 genders on a form on their website. I did a video on X, I called the president of the college, three hours later they took it down. I've had two other colleges have the same sort of thing. This gender bending ideology is everywhere. States have funded it and allowed this woke DEI tranny stuff to happen. We had a sanctuary sheriff in South Carolina for the last four years and she wasn't working with ICE and I found out she was letting hundreds of illegals out on the streets who are murderers, rapists and pedophiles.

• 1:07:23Speaker 03

  No one who was in statewide office said a damn thing. They could have impeached her and then the voters could have elected a new one, but I just said, you know, this is, we don't have law and order and there's a lot of corruption. And I've been through the system as a survivor and I see all the corruption between our solicitors, the lawyers that fund the solicitors' campaigns, the corruption with our AG. Our AG had a case that he prosecuted with 1,900 photos that this pedophile had, convicted pedophile, of toddlers as young as three being raped by animals. He had six indictments. Our attorney general, Allen Wilson, pled him down to one. And his sentence, guess what? Guess how many days he served in jail? Anybody want to guess?

• 1:08:04Speaker 05

  Zero.

• 1:08:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Two years.

• 1:08:06Speaker 03

  How many days did he serve in jail?

• 1:08:08Speaker 05

  Less than a week.

• 1:08:09Speaker 03

  One. One day, we have 353 murder cases in Charleston County in South Carolina. We've got a case in

• 1:08:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you serious about this?

• 1:08:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, on the docket.

• 1:08:19Patrick Bet-David?

  What is the name of this?

• 1:08:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I read about this. They're idle murder cases.

• 1:08:22Speaker 03

  353 in just one county, in a rural county in South Carolina, Sumter, kinda near Charlotte upstate. They have 60 cases. Again, there's a case in Myrtle Beach that the Wall Street Journal has covered. Scott Spivey's name. I just met with the family in Loras on Tuesday. He was shot, they shot at him 70, they chased him down the road nine miles. They shot him 17 times as he was facing away, got killed by a shot in the back.

• 1:08:46Speaker 03

  The AG wouldn't prosecute, governor wouldn't do anything, solicitor buried the head in sand. Come to find out with the tapes later, the shooter knew the guy was terrified, admitted he chased him down the road. I just, no prosecution. So, like, I'm actually trying to talk to the feds to get them to come in, not just in cases that I'm working on, but like, the entire state. Like, how does this happen? We have more pedophiles out on the streets than we have in jail. Murderers are outrunning free rapists, running wild. Try to get a rapist convicted in my state. You can't. And so, it's just, I want, if I, if I do it, I'm gonna be the drop the hammer, law and order, Trump in high heels. I'm coming for you. And if you're a pedophile, you ain't voting for me. You're voting for the pedophile protector, Attorney General Allen Wilson.

• 1:09:31Speaker 03

  Like, I'm gonna come for the criminals. I'm gonna make sure our, our state is safe. Florida's done a great job under Governor DeSantis. Trump's doing a phenomenal job, and I want to bring his America first.

• 1:09:42Patrick Bet-David?

  How is McMaster doing?

• 1:09:44Speaker 03

  This has happened.

• 1:09:45Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a Republican governor.

• 1:09:46Speaker 03

  I like him personally. He's a Republican governor, but this has happened while he's been in office. And I'm a fighter, and I just, I would never allow, like, a daughter going to college to allow men to share dormitories and showers with them. I mean, that's just the kind of thing that's been going on in South Carolina. And everyone has just buried their heads in the sand. And that is not America first. That is not part of the Trump doctrine.

• 1:10:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Is he fighting it? Is he talking to you guys? Is he coming and saying, what are we doing?

• 1:10:11Speaker 03

  No, no. And I, and I love him personally. He's a great guy, great family, nothing. Neither is my lieutenant governor, my attorney general, nothing. They're doing nothing about any of this. And I'm the one who's exposing it. The pedophile I mentioned, Donald Gresh, just got arrested for the second time. He violated, I think, a sex registry thing or something. But the only reason he got rearrested is because I've been talking about it on air. And so it's like, I'm not even governor yet. And I have forced these universities to stop, you know, putting trannies on their gender forms, on their applications for college. I've stopped one university from promoting crossdressing on their website. You know, I have exposed what's going on, you know, in our justice system or injustice system.

• 1:10:54Speaker 03

  And I, I don't even hold state office. So that just says to me, I'm the only one screaming about it, that we need new leadership who's going to-

• 1:11:03Patrick Bet-David?

  What's this rap? What's this?

• 1:11:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, this was from two days ago. Uh, this was about the attorney general that was mentioned earlier, Alan Wilson.

• 1:11:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So can we look into Alan Wilson? Can you go a little bit deeper? Can you go to his profile? I just want to see what his background is. So Alan Wilson, uh, member of South Carolina National Guard, 51st and North Carolina, member of Republican Party. So this guy's a Republican. Wilson has litigated, uh, blocked same-sex marriage and challenges in the Republican. Wilson was born, boom, boom, boom. Go a little bit to the right to see what we see right there.

• 1:11:31Speaker 03

  He's a nepo baby. He's the son of Congressman Joe Wilson. He's been in office for 16 years. And this shit's been going on with him as attorney general. He likes to put out the press release, hey, we arrested this pedophile. But he will not put out the press release of what the conviction was, if they get convicted at all. That's how bad it is. I need the feds to come in and take over our state. Because what happens is, you know, we have a legislature filled of lawyers, they elect the judges. And then, uh, the lawyer legislators and other lawyers, they, they fund the campaigns for the attorney general, they fund the campaigns for the solicitors. In fact, the solicitor working on a case that I am a key witness in right now, her last big fundraiser was headlined by the attorney for two predators

• 1:12:13Speaker 03

  who are being investigated by law enforcement. Evidence has been leaked to these guys. You know, and so the system is just so corrupt, there's, I don't think anything going, you can't go back. I need the feds to come in and take over the state. That's what needs to happen.

• 1:12:26Tom Ellsworth?

  made an incredible case was why the people of South Carolina need a different governor.

• 1:12:31Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:12:32Tom Ellsworth?

  And there was a leak on the 17th, two days ago, that Alan Wilson's rally and formal announcement will be on Monday, the 23rd, coming up on Monday.

• 1:12:40Speaker 03

  Correct.

• 1:12:40Tom Ellsworth?

  He is announcing, he's had exploratory going, going for a while. Okay, so he's in, and he's in with money, Monday, the 23rd, coming up. Says, when will the people of South Carolina hear from you about exploratory committee or definitive announcement?

• 1:12:53Speaker 03

  I don't do exploratory. Yeah, I don't do exploratory. Once I'm in, I'm all in 100%. They're just all in. I don't like the idea of exploratory. I am still in session in DC. I'm still talking to family. I'm getting around the state, listening to people and hearing where they are. I'm not in a rush. Every poll that's out there, I'm ahead in every poll, which is not where you want to be when you're starting out running.

• 1:13:13Tom Ellsworth?

  One or two in recognition.

• 1:13:14Speaker 03

  You want to be two or three.

• 1:13:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Very strong.

• 1:13:16Speaker 03

  Um, but I know that if I decide to do it, my sense is the people are going to be with me. I had a town hall last night. Democrats will tell you I never have town halls. We had a town hall last night. We had 300, 300 people at least RSVP last night for this thing. Um, in a kind of a remote part of Mount Pleasant, South Carolina. Everywhere we go, hundreds of people show up. They don't have that. And I'm just making sure that I get my ducks in the row with my family. I've got two kids. Um, I've got parents to think of and I'm spending some time with my children over the next couple of weeks and we'll decide by the end of summer. So I want to make sure when I, if I do it, I do it the right way. I run my own races. I don't play by anyone's playbook. I don't care that he's announcing on Monday. I think it's a terrible time.

• 1:14:00Speaker 03

  He leaked that he was announcing two days ago on the 10 year anniversary of Mother Emanuel, where nine black church members were murdered while they were reading scripture. So I just, the, the timing of it, tone deafness, I'm not in a rush because he's not going to win. But him getting in might force me to run because he cannot be governor.

• 1:14:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I think you indirectly announced your run, which is, we'll take it as an indirect announcement. When I run, it was an indirect announcement that was made. But here's a question for you. When you're as, um, You know, tough and strong and calling out and talking shit like you are.

• 1:14:30Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:14:31Patrick Bet-David?

  They're gonna come after you.

• 1:14:32Speaker 03

  They are.

• 1:14:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so what methods have they already taken to come after you and target you?

• 1:14:36Speaker 03

  Oh, they leak stories, uh, they use quote anonymous sources, they try to get you investigated by the Ethics Committee, they make things up. In fact, I can't, I can't tell you how many times I've talked to reporter, "Okay, they're accusing you of doing this," and I, with seven anonymous sources, and they're all disgruntled former employees, because I fire people. I'm like Trump, if I don't think you're doing a good job or you're unethical, you're gone. And so, well, we don't have the paperwork, we don't have a recording, we don't have a text, we don't have, uh, receipts. They just said you did this. I'm like, "Well, show me the receipt." There was even a guy, and I'm getting ready to file a lawsuit on this today or tomorrow or by Monday, who, uh, lied in a deposition to say I blackmailed somebody.

• 1:15:18Speaker 03

  And I literally have all the receipts. I'm like, "No, we didn't meet when you said we meet, met." Uh, "No, that trip didn't happen the way you said it did. Nope, I didn't wait to withhold, uh, evidence from law enforcement for a year, and no, I didn't per, I didn't blackmail anybody." In fact, the guy that's alleging blackmail actually, allegedly attempted to blackmail me last year. Politics in South Carolina is a very dirty business. So these guys will, will do fake depositions with fake subpoenas. In fact, this lawsuit, they filed a fake fictitious company to file a fictitious lawsuit with fictitious defendants, knowing they were targeting me, and then had a guy lie under oath in subpoena, a subpoena that the judge never even approved,

• 1:16:01Speaker 03

  um, and violated my civil rights. But like, I'm like, I literally have to sue them now, all of them, and I'm doing that today or tomorrow to say, "Here are the receipts, buddy, and here's where you lied." But in South Carolina, if you perjure yourself, do you think that they go after you for perjury?

• 1:16:17Speaker 05

  If they're not going after pedophiles that are having three-year-olds have sex with animals, it's like, what the hell are we talking about?

• 1:16:21Speaker 03

  So it's gonna be in public and all that, but like, that's why like, I fight back and I'm like, I'm suing people who need to be sued, and I'm holding them accountable, and I will talk about it in the pub, most public place possible to hold people accountable, because it might be the only justice and the only truth that I get. Which is why I am a fighter like I don't I don't wilt I don't flee I also have post-traumatic stress disorder which is why sometimes I I go off in those videos because I feel like I you know when you're being attacked with you have PTSD you either fight or you flee and I sure as hell and getting out of there alive I'm the only one coming out alive so I I fight back so that's what I'm doing

• 1:16:59Patrick Bet-David?

  What is the story that says they they did they Nancy Mace shows nude photos of herself in in house hearing as she says she was recorded without consent

• 1:17:08Speaker 03

  Yeah I did that in May May 20th of this year so about a year and a half ago I uncovered some things that were very disturbing including videos of me being recorded without my knowledge without my permission without my consent I also identified other women that were recorded on this camera without their knowledge without their permission without their consent and today a year and a half later since I came forward to law enforcement with all this evidence including metadata photos some video and other evidence no one's been arrested and if that could happen to a member of Congress and nobody lifts a finger because this is against the law

• 1:17:45Patrick Bet-David?

  What is this

• 1:17:45Speaker 03

  This is a hearing I had an oversight about surveillance in private spaces and that's my body you can see the silhouette it's I mean it's pretty tame it's the silhouette it's you can tell that it's me and my long hair and everything but today a year and a half later no one's been arrested and to have to say as a woman we want to be believed we want people who've violated us this when this happens to you and there were lots of videos and photos I can't unsee what I've seen when this happens to you it feels like you're physically being raped I have post-traumatic stress disorder of what I saw of myself that I had no idea was recorded and it's humiliating and I don't know was this sold on the dark web was this going to be used to blackmail me in the

• 1:18:27Speaker 03

  future I I have no idea why this individual did this to me and he did this for years and I uncovered

• 1:18:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is the individual did you find out

• 1:18:34Speaker 03

  My former fiancee someone I was engaged to someone I trusted I gave him my life savings I owned property with him I had I found evidence going back a decade of upskirt photos and I showed some of those in this hearing and so you know I'm a key witness in investigation I'm a key witness and now a civil suit one of the victims was allegedly sexually assaulted it was filmed and I found it on his phone and so I just

• 1:19:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Is your ex fiancee conservative or is he is he I'm assuming he's a conservative

• 1:19:05Speaker 03

  I don't know what he is. I mean, I'm not gonna comment on him.

• 1:19:07Patrick Bet-David?

  The only reason I'm saying that is because to see if it's something that the opposition is using to because they're gonna come after you. You're loud. You're loud. You're non-stop loud. And it's not like you're coming in like, hey, let me kind of relax and get to know everybody like, no, I'm here. Boom. You're full of shit. You're full of shit. I'm not gonna do this. Tranny, tranny, tranny. Hey.

• 1:19:27Speaker 03

  I'm coming in hot, always. But the solicitor is very good friends with one of his attorneys who's representing two of the four people that I talked about in my floor speech in February. But, you know, I have evidence, I have knowledge of our solicitor obstructing justice for me and other women who were victims, either rape victims allegedly, or victims of voyeurism in this thing. There's been evidence that's been leaked, and I believe it was the solicitor that leaked evidence to people who shouldn't have had it. And her, the solicitor, Scarlett Wilson is her name. Her last big fundraiser, last year before her reelection, was headlined by attorney Jerry Theos.

• 1:20:10Speaker 03

  Jerry Theos is the attorney for two of the four predators who are being investigated today. I have the invitation. I haven't made it public yet, but he reps my ex and one of his business partners in these cases. And so they're leaking stuff and leaking information, I believe. And I believe she's the one doing it. And so it's just this corrupted system, and he should not, I mean, I just... Women just deserve justice. I just want you to do your job, follow the law, and put people in jail who've broken it. And you just can't, she doesn't want to prosecute rape cases, and there's a history of that in her office. She doesn't believe the victims. She's got a political bias against me.

• 1:20:54Speaker 03

  Unfortunately, I'm the key witness because I found all this stuff, but she's got political bias against me. And I believe, I believe that we can puncture the seal of qualified immunity. And Scarlett Wilson, I hope you're listening. I believe you can be sued. I don't believe you can be protected by qualified immunity because of the way that you have inserted yourself into this investigation and have obstructed the investigation. And if you get your shit together and do the right thing, there can be a different conversation. But right now, that's what it looks like.

• 1:21:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. Scarlett A. Wilson.

• 1:21:29Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, she's, oh, and Jerry Theos, the attorney for these guys in this investigation.

• 1:21:34Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you spell the last name?

• 1:21:35Speaker 03

  T H E O S. He was the attorney for the pedophile I mentioned, Donald Gresh, earlier. It's just this nasty corrupt, everyone's scratching everybody's back, nobody wants to go to trial, there are no trials, you know, you just plead down to the least common, least worst indictment, the easiest thing to indict on, nobody serves jail time, everybody gets rich. Either with your campaign, or your law firm with your clients who you're defending who aren't going to jail.

• 1:22:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you, are you planning on, at any time, to slow down and not take the approach that you're taking?

• 1:22:05Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:22:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, then this is gonna continue?

• 1:22:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:22:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, this is gonna continue, as long as you know it, and you know-

• 1:22:10Speaker 03

  Oh, and they're coming after me. Let me tell you, I mean, if you're willing to file a fictitious company, to file a fictitious lawsuit, and have someone lie under oath, what else are you willing to do? But, you know, I have a great legal team, I have great staff, I have a great platform, and all I'm gonna do is tell the truth, and the people can decide. But what I will tell you, because I've come forward as a victim, as a key witness in this thing, I'm learning about other cases, like Scott Spivey's case, the family came to me, you know, they're, these families are begging for help, because there needs to be a trial in that, in that murder case. But, um, there are, there was a kid that was just run over with a car by someone who was mentally ill

• 1:22:51Speaker 03

  in Sullivan's Island, South Carolina, and the families not being informed by their victim's rights advocate in South Carolina about when the hearings are for this guy. In my case, I didn't get a victim's rights advocate for 11 months, and guess what? I had to go through the Attorney General's office, who denies he knew anything about it. I got my victim's rights advocate through his office, and one of the rape victims didn't get her victim's rights advocate until the day of my speech, like, an hour before my speech. So it's just, you know, and I've got, I've got people all over the state, hey, this case happened, this murder, this rape, this pedophile, I went to law enforcement, nothing happened. And when I, I was also physically assaulted on my way out, I have bruises all over the left side of my body,

• 1:23:34Speaker 03

  and I showed it to law enforcement and was told point blank, we're not gonna investigate it. Like, if that's happening to me as a, as a prominent member of the community, then what's happening to the little black girl in North Charleston, when she comes forward? You know, victims are treated like criminals. Criminals are treated like victims. And that's what's going on, which like, like, I'm gonna be begging the feds. I'm working on it. It's a really long letter. It's taken a while. But somebody's gotta take over the state and make right what's been so wrong in South Carolina.

• 1:24:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, it sounds like the state's about to get a new governor. That's what it sounds like.

• 1:24:04Speaker 03

  I hope like hell they are.

• 1:24:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, well, let's see. Let's see what's gonna happen. She's gonna make the announcement here soon. All right, so a couple of things. Yesterday Tucker had Ted Cruz on.

• 1:24:13Speaker 03

  92 million. I'm just gonna say that there are 92 million people in Iran.

• 1:24:20Speaker 03

  I know the answer.

• 1:24:24Patrick Bet-David?

  That is hilarious. But no, he had Ted Cruz on. Is this one, is this the clip, which clip is this, Rob?

• 1:24:30Speaker 07

  This is the population of Iran.

• 1:24:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it. Play this clip.

• 1:24:33Speaker 07

  I don't know, by the way. I don't know the population.

• 1:24:36Speaker 05

  At all?

• 1:24:37Speaker 07

  No, I don't know the population.

• 1:24:40Speaker 05

  You don't know the population of the country you seek to topple?

• 1:24:44Speaker 07

  How many people living around?

• 1:24:45Speaker 05

  92 million.

• 1:24:46Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 1:24:47Speaker 05

  Yeah. How could you not know that?

• 1:24:50Speaker 07

  I don't sit around memorizing population tables.

• 1:24:53Speaker 05

  Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the overthrow of the government.

• 1:24:56Speaker 07

  Why is it relevant whether it's 90 million or 80 million or 100 million?

• 1:25:00Speaker 05

  Well, because if you don't know anything about the country...

• 1:25:02Speaker 07

  I didn't say I don't know anything about...

• 1:25:03Speaker 05

  Okay, what's the ethnic mix of Iran?

• 1:25:07Speaker 07

  They are Persians and predominantly Shia. Okay. No, it's not even, you don't know anything about Iran. So actually the country... Okay, I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran. You're a senator who's calling for the overthrow of the government and you don't know anything about the country. No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump. No, I'm not saying that. You're the one who can't figure out if it was a good idea to kill General Soleimani and you said it was bad.

• 1:25:31Speaker 05

  You don't believe they're trying to murder Trump?

• 1:25:32Speaker 07

  Yes, I do.

• 1:25:33Speaker 05

  Because you're not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation. And if you really believe that...

• 1:25:37Speaker 07

  We're carrying out military strikes today.

• 1:25:39Speaker 05

  You said Israel was.

• 1:25:40Speaker 07

  Right, with our help. I said we. Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them.

• 1:25:45Speaker 05

  Well, this, you're breaking news here because the US government last night denied, the National Security Council spokesman Alex Pfeifer denied, on behalf of Trump, that we were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity at all.

• 1:25:56Speaker 07

  We're not bombing them. Israel's bombing them.

• 1:25:57Speaker 05

  You just said we were. This is high stakes. You're a senator. If you're saying the United States government is at war with Iran right now, people are listening.

• 1:26:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Your thoughts on this?

• 1:26:08Speaker 03

  Well, I learned that there are 92 million people in Iran. And by the way, over 60% of Iranians are Persian, it's 61% and over 90% are Shia. So after that interview, I went into a table of population to see what the makeup was. But Ted Cruz is right. There are actually three people. I just looked up their names. Three people in federal custody currently for Iran has been trying to assassinate Trump. They had plans to. Asif Marchand, Carla Rivera and Jonathan Lodholt are people that are in federal custody right now as part of that. And also Iran also attempted to assassinate. He's also, they've also tried to assassinate other people. They are a real threat.

• 1:26:51Speaker 03

  Former secretaries, etc. Have had those threats on their life. But I'm with Trump on this. I'm with Trump on the Iranian-Israel situation. I was in Israel a couple of months ago. And I've been briefed on what Iran had and did not have at the time. And I agree with Trump that I believe that they are close or were close to having a nuclear weapon. I believe, you know, timetables, depending on what, who, what intel you talk to, timelines might be slightly different. But everybody knows is pretty close. And everybody knows where they're getting their sources from and what material Iran was getting from where. All of that is known. It's been known for a long time. This is the closest they've ever been. In fact, I was really pleased to see last night, over the middle of the night, Israel

• 1:27:36Speaker 03

  bombed Eric, which is one of, or Iraq, which is one of their nuclear facilities, facilities that had heavy water that's used, you get plutonium out of that. And I hope that Israel sees this till the end and that we're going to be there. I actually texted the president two days ago and he texted back and I told him that we needed to take out their, their nuclear facilities.

• 1:27:58Patrick Bet-David?

  This is President Trump?

• 1:27:59Speaker 03

  Yeah. And even if we had to give them a 30,000 pound bunker buster to do it and the, and the B2, I think we should do it. We have a, we have an opportunity now. Now to put this to bed and the world will be safer and we the media won't report on it now, but there are major Gulf states who support Israel's effort. Nobody in their right mind wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. I also don't want our troops in Iran. I don't want no feet on the ground, no soldiers in Iran, just like Ukraine, no. But if we need to provide some equipment like we did with Ukraine to Israel to finish the job, I'm okay with that. But we have allies in the Middle East, large Gulf states who are supportive of this effort.

• 1:28:40Speaker 05

  Can I ask a question? So Nancy, because I'm going to give you, what do you say to the people that have seen, for instance, Bibi Netanyahu for 40 years saying Iran is two weeks away from nuclear weapon? Two years later, Iran is, and now it's gone to the point where the people are questioning the intelligence because for instance, if I want, and by the way, Bibi is very, very unlike in his own country. There was about to be a revolution before October 7th happened. What, what do you say to the people that are like, you know what? Just like when I was in the United States Air Force during Bush, trust me, one of the reasons I left was because they lied.

• 1:29:18Speaker 03

  They did lie.

• 1:29:19Speaker 05

  And which Bibi was one of the main, main voices saying Saddam Hussein has nuclear weapons and taking out Saddam would cause positive reverberations throughout the region. It did anything but. So what do you say to the people that are like, hey, listen, Israel, and I get it, he wants, he doesn't want anybody to fricking have nuclear weapons, especially Iran that says, you know, they're little Satan and we're big Satan. But what do you say to people that this story seems like it's the same story? That's one question. And the second one is, what is the plan for the regime change? If you're going to go in there and take everybody out, we've talked about this. Is there a plan kind of behind the curtains that's like, okay, Reza or somebody? Because if you just take everybody out, those 92 million people are going to be like, who, what, what about us? So what do you?

• 1:30:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, I was with you on Iraq, the whole weapons of mass destruction and what we did to our country, taking away our liberties after that, spying on Americans and everything. And we were lied to. The difference here, this to me, it feels different. I have been briefed. I have been in a skiff and heard some of the intel that has been acquired. Now, you know, different intelligence agencies in countries might have a slightly different timeline, but.

• 1:30:30Speaker 03

  It's all the same. They're very close. Based on, and that's what Trump said the other day, and I, based on what I've been briefed on, I believe that he is right. Now, with regards to regime change, that's up to the Iranian people. Over 80% of Iranian people do not want the Ayatollah in power. They're not, they don't want the mullahs, the IRGC, uh, Khamenei. Like, they're not in on this. And so, I have worked a lot of human rights around the world. I've worked a lot with Iranian former political prisoners. And my sense is with the Iranian people, one, they don't, they want a regime change. There's a shadow government of people there that would take over, that want freedom, that want democracy, that want a non-nuclear Iran.

• 1:31:14Speaker 03

  You have the former king, as you mentioned, potentially. You have Miram Rajavi as well. She's in Europe. There are leaders around the world and nearby that would want what the Iranian people want. If we, you know, I urge the president not to do a deal with the, with the mullahs or with the Ayatollah. I just said, give them the bomb, give them the plane, take out their nukes. But we know that they are doing this. We know that they're violating their agreement, and they've been doing it for years. Now, they've been inching along, but they're closer than they've ever been because of places like Russia, because of the Chinese, who want to see this axis of evil.

• 1:31:56Speaker 03

  And we can't, and Trump has said it for 15 years, we can't allow them to have a nuclear weapon. So, if Israel wants to do it by hand and march into the mountains, uh, at Firdal and do it, then do it, like, whatever it takes. And I think naturally, the regime will topple, and there will be freedom-loving, democracy-loving Iranians ready to step in. Over 80% of them don't want this.

• 1:32:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's the thing, Rob. If you can play the clip of Trump talking about he got a call from Tucker apologizing, and they were going back and forth. Um, yeah, this is it right here. Watch this here, the exchange.

• 1:32:31Speaker 06

  Because he thought he said things that were a little bit too strong. And I appreciated that. And Ted Cruz is a nice guy. I mean, he's been with me for a long time. I'd say, once the race was over, he's been with me ever since, right? But, um, very simple. If they think that it's okay for Iran to have a nuclear weapon, then they should oppose me, but nobody thinks it's okay. People that don't want, I don't want to fight either. I'm not looking to fight. But if it's a choice between fighting and him having a nuclear weapon, you have to, you have to do what you have to do. Maybe we won't have to fight. Don't forget, we haven't been fighting. And if Ted, I can't imagine that Ted Cruz said it's okay for Iran to have nuclear, including Tucker.

• 1:33:15Speaker 06

  I don't think Tucker says it's okay. The problem is, then they get themselves into a thing. They don't want them to have nuclear, but then they say, well, we don't want to fight. Well, you're gonna have to make a choice because it's possible that you're gonna have to fight for them not to have nuclear. And it's interesting, because I did ask Tucker. I said, well, are you okay with nuclear weapons being in the hands of Iran? And he sort of didn't like that. He didn't want to really, but he sort of didn't like that. And I said, well, if it's, if it's okay with you, then you and I do have a difference. But it's really not okay with him. Therefore, you may have to fight. And maybe it'll end, and maybe it'll end very quickly. But there's no way that you can allow, whether you have to fight or not,

• 1:33:59Speaker 06

  you can allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon, because the entire world will blow up.

• 1:34:04Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about what he just said?

• 1:34:05Speaker 06

  Not gonna let that happen.

• 1:34:06Speaker 05

  About not letting them have a nuclear weapon?

• 1:34:08Patrick Bet-David?

  No, about the exchange. I mean, the whole thing. What do you think about what?

• 1:34:11Speaker 05

  I think, I, I, I mean, I do think Tucker called and did apologize. I mean, he can't, he's not gonna have the President of the United States as an enemy. I think those conversations are happening. And, and here's my thing. If it's factual proof, I, I love to see the proof of the, where they are at these stages. Like, I, and I'm not saying give me-

• 1:34:30Patrick Bet-David?

  The part I'm asking you is the following, because there's one thing he said here. So he said, uh, uh, okay, so you don't want them to have a nuclear weapon? All right, so what if the option is, the only option is to fight, to be able to get, have them get rid of nuclear weapon? Then what do we do?

• 1:34:44Speaker 05

  If they, if they want to-

• 1:34:45Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's, let's just say, everybody agrees they don't want Iran to have nuclear happen. Minus 5%.

• 1:34:51Speaker 05

  Okay, I, I, I agree that I don't think Iran, with that leadership, should definitely not have a nuclear weapon.

• 1:34:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let me ask you a question. At what cost? So is it let them have nuclear weapon, but we don't go to war? Or look, man, if you're not going to give up the nuclear, but we've got to go to war?

• 1:35:05Speaker 05

  No, I, I think first, I want zero American troops on the ground at all. Because if it, if it's going to escalate to that point, I don't want any United States-

• 1:35:14Patrick Bet-David?

  So perfect. So what you're saying is, again, this is okay. It's just your opinion. What you're saying is the fact that I would much rather have Iran have nuclear weapon with no troops going there, going to war.

• 1:35:24Speaker 05

  No, I don't want them to have nuclear weapons.

• 1:35:27Patrick Bet-David?

  But what he's saying is, what Trump is saying is, what if, that's his argument that he's making to Tucker. He's talking specifically to Tucker in this video. That's my impression of what I'm getting. He's saying, okay, Tucker, so what do we do? You don't want troops, no problem, and you don't want them to have nuclear weapons. What if they're, they don't want to negotiate because they're just not seeming like- Here's, here's a clip on what they just said. It says, Iran will never surrender. Israel made a huge mistake, says country's supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei. This is what he's saying, you know, go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

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• 1:39:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't support, they get nuclear weapon.

• 1:39:11Patrick Bet-David?

  If you have to choose, you can't do one without the other. We do nothing, they get nuclear weapon. Should we do anything? Should he attack the way he did with Qasem Soleimani?

• 1:39:21Speaker 05

  Attack what? The, the, because here's my thing.

• 1:39:24Patrick Bet-David?

  So say Israel can't do it by themselves.

• 1:39:26Speaker 05

  But here's my question. Israel can't, do you think Israel doesn't have the capability to do this by themselves? I do too, so why do we have to get involved?

• 1:39:33Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I know. What I'm, all I'm saying to you is, I think they do.

• 1:39:35Speaker 05

  Me too.

• 1:39:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And I want this to be their fight.

• 1:39:37Speaker 05

  Hundred percent.

• 1:39:38Patrick Bet-David?

  To me, like when the boys are fighting, you've seen me when I'm with the kids. I'm like, listen, I'm out of this one. Go in and fight it out. It's up to you guys, right? But if it gets to a point that I need to get involved, do I let them fight? Because I know one of my sons knows Muay Thai and allow him to beat the crap out of the other one? So at what point, if something happens that they're simply not willing to do it, should we get involved?

• 1:39:57Speaker 05

  Okay, see, okay. Now, if it's up to that point where they, they are and they're trying to move like that, then it's, they're putting us in this situation that we have to. For right now, I think Israel could take it by themselves.

• 1:40:08Patrick Bet-David?

  But watch what you just said, Vinny. Very important, because you, you, when you and I talk, you're a reasonable, logical guy. So you just went to, if it gets to the point that shit could hit the fan, then no matter what on your list is, you don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon?

• 1:40:22Speaker 05

  I do not want, okay, period. Hundred percent. I don't want them, I don't, with this leadership, this guy, that right there, the burning the, the American flag? Hell no, hell no. But again, I am about, and I get it, he's in the Situation Room. The intelligence, if the intelligence is correct, coming from Israel, that they're there, that they're right there, and this is the attitude? Up, up to a point, let Israel do what Israel has to do. But if we have to get involved because they can't do it and this guy wants the nuclear weapon?

• 1:40:52Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what I would actually be saying to Netanyahu if I'm speaking to him? Here's what I would say.

• 1:40:55Speaker 05

  As who though?

• 1:40:55Patrick Bet-David?

  If I'm the president and he's asking me questions and saying, hey, uh, I need your help. You know what I'm gonna say? What happened to the fact that you have, you guys have the greatest military in the, in the Middle East? I thought you guys have the greatest air force, I thought you have the greatest intelligence. No, I think what's important for the world, world stage is you'll go finish and show how strong you are. You show power without anybody helping you out. You go do it. That's what I'm telling him. Why? Because that solves two things. What? One problem was solved by me not doing the, uh, not using my troops. Okay? Two, the world is now seeing that they did it. You take ownership of what just happened there. What happened with, uh, I- I- Israel and Iran. But on the flip side, and I'm gonna come to you here Nancy because I'm curious on what you're gonna say here.

• 1:41:38Patrick Bet-David?

  On the flip side of it here is where we hear stories that says, uh, uh, um... Where's the story that, that, uh, Israel says they asking troops for, once again? Okay, Israel president calls on the world to help destroy Iran nuclear sites, right? And I think there's even one of them that's talking about he's asking America. Is this it?

• 1:41:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, sir.

• 1:41:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, go for it, Rob.

• 1:41:59Speaker 05

  There's a bigger picture here that the world and the American people should understand. We have to stop this empire of evil no more and tell them, get the goddamn nukes out of your hands and start behaving in a decent way and not be the rogue state you are all over the world. It's impossible.

• 1:42:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Would Israel like to see the US at this point join in? Uh, Israel, I'm sorry. With direct offensive military action in Iran?

• 1:42:24Speaker 05

  So as you see, the Israeli, uh, leadership is quite cautious. It's a decision that needs to be taken by the president and his team. So obviously, we would welcome anything that helps eradicate the Iranian nuclear program completely.

• 1:42:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:41Speaker 05

  Including the main two sites at Fordow and Natanz.

• 1:42:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it right there, Rob. This goes to Israel. We are hitting Fordow with or without US bunker busters, right? This is a, uh, uh, do you have that story right there? There's a clip on it right here, Rob, and Nancy, I'm coming to you right after this. If you have this clip, Rob. There's a clip that says, "Israel, we are hitting Fordow." So...

• 1:43:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Right here.

• 1:43:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:43:02Speaker 06

  For the Iran, the possibility of an Iran deal, is the destruction or the dismantling of the Fordow nuclear enrichment center, is that a prerequisite for a deal? Is that a red line for you? No, it's just something that people talk about having. We're the only ones that have the capability to do it, but that doesn't mean I'm going to do it at all. Yeah, we have the best military equipment in the world. You see that with this fight. We have planes that are undetectable flying around like, you know, nobody's able to see him stealth. You guys want to be stealthy tonight. You can be stealth, you'll never lose, right? But these are incredible planes and weapons. We have the best weapons in the world, by far.

• 1:43:43Speaker 06

  Nobody close. And we're, I mean, certain countries take advantage of that. Israel has incredible weaponry. So we'll see what happens. I have not, I have not, I've been asked about it by everybody, but I haven't made a decision.

• 1:44:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Israel National Security Advisor Zatecha Kanabi stated in an interview, Channel 12, "Israel's operation against Iran will not end without damaging Fordow Nuclear Facility, which is 90 meters underground and houses thousands of uranium-rich centrifuges." He acknowledges, "I don't know if the US will join," noting ongoing talks with the US, "but no effort to persuade them. Conventional wisdom suggests that US bunker-busting bombs can destroy Fordow, as Israel lacks such munitions and strategic bombers." That's the tricky question right there. Go for it.

• 1:44:30Speaker 03

  So, number one, I just want to say, I trust Donald Trump. I don't think he's going to do anything without seeing it for himself, the intel. He's not George W. Bush. I mean, he's, he knows what he's doing, knows what he's talking about. He knows what he's seen. And if they tell him, "Hey, this is what's happened," he's going to want to say, "Show me," right? And so, he won't make a decision, I believe, without all the facts and information and intel. Number one. Number two, I think, you know, Israel, their heaviest bunker buster is 5,000 pounds. Like, they might, they've even admitted today, I believe, that they might need to go in using humans if the US doesn't help. We have, as you all know, the B-2 aircraft that are needed to drop heavier bunker busters.

• 1:45:11Speaker 03

  We have a 30,000-pound bunker buster bomb, which would, you need a couple of them, do the trick. We think it would do the trick. You might, I don't know if you need anything more than that, but we have, definitely have equipment and munitions that would work, that Israel might need to use. And I'm okay with us doing that, if that's what Trump decides. That doesn't mean we have troops on the ground. I think we can do it without. But, but lastly, deposit this idea, if Iran, if we allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

• 1:45:43Speaker 03

  We either fight now, or we fight later, because Iran's gonna drop that nuclear bomb on Israel, or somewhere else, no matter what, they've stated that, they've told us what they're going to do. So we're either going to war, now we're going to war later, and let's do it without troops on the ground. Much better, safer, for everybody, because there's going to be war with Iran, no matter what, whether it's right now, or whether it's 10 years from now, 20 years from now, whenever that happens, they're gonna drop a nuke, and there's gonna be World War III. We avoid World War III with doing, watching Israel, and Israel will take the lead, do it. If they need some of our missiles or bombs, I hope that we provide it, keep our troops out of it. That's the ideal situation, in my opinion.

• 1:46:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, thoughts?

• 1:46:25Tom Ellsworth?

  So, I also trust President Trump, and the decision here is very straight. It's like, Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb. Part one. Israel gets challenged, or told, "Look, you got your military, you got everything like this, and you got a lot of the stuff from us, you got some of the best stuff from us, go do it." And it said, "Well, we need this and this." Okay, well, you give that, and that's where the slippery slope starts. That's when the French were flailing in Vietnam, "Well, we'll provide some advisors. Well, we'll provide limited assault infantry support. Well, we'll do this." And all of a sudden, you find yourself in it, where I don't want to be, I don't want to be boots on the ground,

• 1:47:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't want to be in it. But if we've got the best delivery mechanism, the B2, delivery platform, and we've got the best bunker buster bombs, although I've seen all the diagrams of this, and I've-

• 1:47:20Patrick Bet-David?

  The bunker buster bombs, Tom, is that the one that goes, it's three phases, 1, 2, 3?

• 1:47:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Bum, bum, bum, bum, right.

• 1:47:24Patrick Bet-David?

  It is a very, can you break down to the audience what the bunker buster bomb-

• 1:47:29Tom Ellsworth?

  It's designed to go, it's delayed fuses on multiple levels, and it's designed to build a hole for itself, and then have the bigger explosion down in the hole, once it's there. And the design is, when you have an enemy deep underground and building bunkers, you have to get through all the soil, down to a level, to provide a dramatic explosive concussion downward. And what Representative Meister was just talking about, is Israel's got- 5,000 pound bunker busters. Now a 30,000 pound bunker buster, I mean, that's 15 tons

• 1:48:09Tom Ellsworth?

  of trouble that comes down, initial explosion, delayed fuses, and then the massive explosion. Now, what if it doesn't do it? What if it doesn't do it? And you've got this tunnel that goes deep into the, into the mountain, see? See, they go penetrating in and then, and now what have you got? You got, okay, who's gonna be Luke Skywalker and fly to the center of the Death Star and put the bomb down this, this long tube that goes down? And so the question really is, is what if the bunker busters don't work? What if these things are so deep? Do you have to put basically elite infantry on the ground to get there and to go all the way through this thing?

• 1:48:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you have to assault Fodor?

• 1:48:55Speaker 03

  Israel has elite infantry.

• 1:48:57Tom Ellsworth?

  That's my point, yeah. And it's like, support them, but if the bunker busters don't work, Israel has to go in with elite ground troops to go down these tunnels, penetrate the whole thing, and then do it, do it down deep. And that's, that's where it gets nervous for me. But it goes back to my first point. You may not have nuclear weapons, and you've built this facility, and one way or another, this facility has to be compromised. And I, I like the idea of helping and supporting. I hate the idea of doing it.

• 1:49:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so, that's so funny. That is so weird. So regardless, they need our weapons, but they got the soldiers. They, they need our weapons, but they got enough of, you know...

• 1:49:39Speaker 03

  They might need one of our pilots to fly the plane.

• 1:49:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, I was gonna say, Pat, and to be honest with you, I don't even think it's gonna...

• 1:49:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Didn't they not, elite, Vinnie helped me out, didn't they get elite soldiers of their own, the equivalent of Green Berets, in? And they created drone launch points?

• 1:49:54Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, guys, let's not forget...

• 1:49:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, they had a factory, a drone factory in Iran.

• 1:49:58Speaker 05

  In Iran, let's not forget. And by the way, they put pagers in Hamas. Guys, they are so advanced. And, and I don't even think it needs to get to any troops, not even Israeli. The technology they have from the air is absolutely ridiculous. It's one of the best... in the world it's just if they have it get it over with not knock out the freaking facilities I don't want any human beings dying the less as we can and just get this guy out we have to get this homini guy out of power that type of mentality that type of leadership it's not it's not helping anybody that's saying death to America it's it's it's only a matter of time till some that guy does something stupid to us

• 1:50:35Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not worried about the people that say it I'm worried about the people that built capabilities

• 1:50:39Speaker 05

  oh no on top of but mind you though that guy that guy that's saying death to America how many of those people through the open border for four years you think are here Nancy waiting waiting for that call because a lot of them were giving cell phones they're all get go here's money go stay wherever you're staying so Thomas Homan said we're gonna have he said this from his mouth the borders are we have something that's gonna be coming that's gonna be worse than nine eleven

• 1:51:01Tom Ellsworth?

  sleeper cells can create low technology havoc on citizens that's horrifying

• 1:51:06Patrick Bet-David?

  did you see this funny exchange when the guy when the lady's asking so when are you gonna be attacking Iran did you see that one clip with Trump and Trump's like

• 1:51:13Tom Ellsworth?

  oh yeah yeah

• 1:51:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Cory's outside with the yellow vest because I'm gonna tell you of course I'm gonna tell you go ahead

• 1:51:16Tom Ellsworth?

  what time is it

• 1:51:17Patrick Bet-David?

  watch this here

• 1:51:20Speaker 03

  about whether you are moving closer you believe the US is moving closer to striking Iranian nuclear facilities where's your mindset on that

• 1:51:28Speaker 06

  can't say that right you don't seriously think I'm gonna answer that question will you strike the Iranian nuclear component and what time exactly sir sir would you strike it would you please inform us so we can be there and watch I mean you don't know that I'm gonna even do it you don't know I may do it I may not do it I mean nobody knows what I'm gonna do like

• 1:51:50Speaker 05

  so funny

• 1:51:51Speaker 03

  he's the best

• 1:51:52Tom Ellsworth?

  it makes you miss Donald Rumsfeld when Donald Rumsfeld was at a

• 1:51:56Speaker 03

  no we don't miss Donald Rumsfeld no

• 1:51:58Speaker 05

  I don't miss him at all

• 1:51:59Tom Ellsworth?

  no no I mean what he I don't miss I don't miss what he did but there was a moment what he said was actually kinda funny we was told you know they're gonna be protesting against you know Americans and everything on the Saturday it's a big demonstration in the middle of the street he says so a large group of Al Qaeda in the middle of the street at noon on Saturday are gonna be demonstrating yes sir and he said would you happen to have the coordinates

• 1:52:24Speaker 05

  that's actually pretty smart

• 1:52:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if Donald Rumsfeld's ever gotten a shout out here Tom you're the first to do it

• 1:52:29Tom Ellsworth?

  no I'm not I I am not

• 1:52:31Patrick Bet-David?

  you gotta take ownership of it folks

• 1:52:33Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't give him a shout out for that I'm just saying in the annals of politicians at the microphone

• 1:52:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I think that's qualified as a shout out, Tom. All right, let me go to the next thing here. While this is happening, he is, uh, uh, Trump reveals that he knows exactly where Iran's supreme leader is hiding, won't take action for now as he convenes with leaders in Situation Room. It's an easy target, is what he said. We know exactly where he is, it's an easy target, we're not going to kill him, take him out, kill, at least not for now, but we don't want any missiles shot at civilians or American soldiers, our patience is wearing thin. Thank you for your patience, attentions to this matter.

• 1:53:13Speaker 03

  It's like a memo.

• 1:53:16Patrick Bet-David?

  But, and what's crazy is with all this stuff, or some of you guys are gamblers, you know, betting odds, Iran's leader Khamenei is ousted this year just skyrocketed, according to media. Check this out. Rob, if you can pull up that story here.

• 1:53:30Tom Ellsworth?

  You can bet on anything nowadays.

• 1:53:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, no, there, there, there's definitely this going on. President Trump posted on social media, we know exactly where he is, supreme leader is not an easy target, but say we're not going to take him out, not for now, but now we just don't go. And then, and demanded unconditional surrender. Polymarket reported, traders project Khamenei will be removed from power this year, over 60% chance of it happening. That is insane, with odds jumping from 22 to 60% since Israel's strikes on Iran began. Look at this, just in the last, and it was declining, January, February, March, April, May, declining, boom, skyrockets. Polymarket Social Media stated, breaking, things are not looking good for supreme leader

• 1:54:15Patrick Bet-David?

  of Iran as Trump demands an unconditional surrender, and later, odds Iran's supreme leader out this year just skyrocket, deciding Trump host, calling Guy Tola Ali, Khamenei an easy target, the platform defines removal as if Khamenei resigns, is detained, or otherwise, loses his position, or is prevented from fulfilling his duties as supreme leader of Iran by December 31st of 2021. So this is not about just getting killed, resigns, step away. There was even rumors that Khamenei was, uh, uh, you know, leaving a country, a lot of his leaders were leaving the country, even there was a story yesterday that Ahmadinejad was killed, we immediately got a, a, a message from his camp saying, please make sure you tell the people, we're not killed, I'm still around, he was alive, that was a false alert.

• 1:54:58Patrick Bet-David?

  But what do you think about this Polymarket Khamenei, what do you think is a likely... That the regime's gonna change here before 2026.

• 1:55:05Speaker 03

  I'm surprised it's only 61%.

• 1:55:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 1:55:08Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, the Iranian people, as soon as he's out, they're, I do believe they're going to rise up. You have young women protesting in the streets in Iran, taking their hijabs off. I mean, they are, these young Iranian people are heroes. And they are just ready for their moment, and I think their moment's gonna get here sooner than anyone else believed.

• 1:55:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, this came out yesterday, Rob, if can you put the full tweet so we can read what the tweet says?

• 1:55:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, I have to grab that, yes.

• 1:55:35Patrick Bet-David?

  You just go to his account and you'll see it, but he posted this video yesterday. And said specifically, "The future looks bright for the Iranian people," something like that. With his tweet, and then put a video up that I think got 20 million views, if I'm not mistaken. A lot of commentary with that, can you translate that one? Not that one, there's one in the, go a little bit lower, Rob. That's the one, okay, so Islamic Republic has come to an end. And is falling, what has begun is irreversible, the future is brighter, and together we will navigate through the sharp turn in history. Now is the time to stand, it is time to take back Iran. May I be with you soon, and if I'm not mistaken, was he in Israel yesterday, Rob? Can you pull up that clip? There's a clip of him being in Israel, walking around, I think, is this recent?

• 1:56:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know what the timeline of this is, Rob?

• 1:56:22Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not sure of the timeline, but this is the clip.

• 1:56:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, play the clip.

• 1:56:26Patrick Bet-David?

  This is him in.

• 1:56:27Speaker 05

  Might be old, Pat.

• 1:56:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Could it be old?

• 1:56:29Speaker 05

  I think.

• 1:56:31Patrick Bet-David?

  He's in Israel.

• 1:56:32Speaker 03

  They're at the wall.

• 1:56:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he's at the wall.

• 1:56:36Speaker 05

  Like, it looks kinda peaceful, I mean, how do you, I'd be a little bit crazy.

• 1:56:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Question is, I don't know if this is, so you're saying this is maybe in the past when he did this? So, who knows? It's, you know, a lot of people are saying that he's gonna be returning to Iran. Some are saying it's gonna be some folks internally, but regardless. Nancy, what you're saying is, you're thinking this thing's gonna get done sooner rather than later.

• 1:56:57Speaker 03

  I do, because if they take out the supreme leader and they've taken out all of his top brass, there will naturally be a regime change. The people are not gonna tolerate this again. They're just, they're tired of it. There are so many political prisoners that are out now. They're gonna rise up. I do believe they will rise up. I believe this is different. I could be wrong. We could be back here a year from now and be like, grovelling, "I'm so sorry, I was wrong." But I don't think that's, I mean, I hope that's not where we're gonna be, but I just, they're ready. There are leaders that are sitting in the wings, not just the former king, but there are other leaders within the Free Iran Movement who are ready to step forward. And the people, like, they want democracy.

• 1:57:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Is Congress fairly aligned on the same page on this issue? Would you say most of Congress and Senate, even left and right, are they mostly aligned on this issue, or no?

• 1:57:45Speaker 03

  I would say no.

• 1:57:46Patrick Bet-David?

  On the left or on the right?

• 1:57:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, I just, I think it's gonna be mixed bag on both sides.

• 1:57:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Even on the conservative side?

• 1:57:53Speaker 03

  Yes, well, because we're all coming from 20 years plus of forever wars. We were lied to, weapons of mass destruction. Taking Saddam out was the worst thing we could have done. We've all seen that, and we've, we're paying billions of dollars to the Taliban now because of George W. Bush and Afghanistan and how all that went down. Nobody wants to see that again, but the Iranian people, it's a different country with different people, different values, and they are modern, they are, you know, savvy. I think it's a much more modern Gulf state if given the opportunity. Look where they were in the 70s. They were just a normal country back in the late 70s.

• 1:58:34Speaker 03

  I mean, and so I think that's where they, that's where, that's their history, that's where they come from. That's what they want their future to be.

• 1:58:42Patrick Bet-David?

  It was Dubai, before there was Dubai, except with a massively rich history of a couple thousand years old. Thomas Massey, how was your relationship with Massey?

• 1:58:50Speaker 03

  It's fine.

• 1:58:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so Massey, this is, this is the part where you see some folks on the camp, they're like on, you know, Massey's side. Massey, a Kentucky Republican, announced on X, "This is not our war. Even if it were, Congress must..." Besides such matters, according to our constitution, I'm filing a resolution with a bipartisan group led by Rokana to block unauthorized hostilities against Iran, introducing a House resolution under the War Powers Resolution of 1973 to prevent President Donald Trump from engaging in unauthorized hostilities in or against Iran. Co-sponsored include Representative Rokana, California, Don Byer from Virginia, Craig Cesar from Texas, AOC New York, Nidia Velasquez of New York, Lloyd Douggett of Texas, Chewy

• 1:59:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Garcia of Illinois, Delia Ramirez, I'm probably butchering some of these names, Pramila Jayapal of Washington, Summerlee of Pennsylvania, Jim McGovern of Massachusetts, Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib. I mean, Massey is on the side of Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, and a couple AOC on this resolution, uniting Massey with progressive Democrats seeking to halt US military involvement in Iran's Iran conflict with moderate New York Representative Mike Law opposing its stating Monday. If AOC and Massey are yes, that's a good bet that I'll be a no. I'll wait to see the resolution, but I'm skeptical. Massey has a massive following, a lot of people on his side. What are your thoughts on this?

• 2:00:15Speaker 03

  Well, he's right technically on the war powers part of it. There is the War Powers Act. The President does have to go to Congress and ask permission to go to war. That is a thing. I disagree with the first half of the premise of the document, and in this case, when we're talking about Middle Eastern policy, military policy, and Iran having nukes, I am not going to be on the side of Ilhan Pressley, AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar. I'm not with them. I mean, because we all know what they want, and I want none of that. But he's right on the war powers part of it. The President is supposed to come to Congress and get a vote, make the ask, and I'm, I respect that and believe that he should do that. Put your vote on the board, let the people know where you stand.

• 2:00:59Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think it'll let, if they put the vote out there? You think it'll favor him?

• 2:01:04Speaker 03

  Um, I think... It's hard to say at this point because there's, you know, there are Republicans who are against any involvement. There are people like me who don't want boots on the ground, but I'm okay giving them a bomb. You know, and I think there's a nuance here and a balance. I think we could get there, but I think it would be hard.

• 2:01:22Speaker 05

  Is giving them munitions an act of war? Like, does he have to go to-

• 2:01:27Speaker 03

  It would be seen as an act of war.

• 2:01:29Speaker 05

  So, so once we get involved, even at the level of, hey, here's a 30,000 pound bomb.

• 2:01:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Still gotta get it.

• 2:01:34Speaker 05

  We're in war.

• 2:01:35Speaker 03

  And for decades now, you know, especially during the forever wars in the Middle East, like, no president went to Congress to ask to do any of this. So, it would be best if it were, if we followed the law of all the Constitution and we do that, that would be the best case scenario.

• 2:01:52Patrick Bet-David?

  But no president has done that.

• 2:01:54Speaker 03

  Not in the last 20 years, no. 30 years, no.

• 2:01:57Speaker 05

  So they're breaking the, like, they're all breaking the law by going-

• 2:02:00Speaker 03

  That's Washington. What do you think's going on up there?

• 2:02:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, we're thinking everybody's a law-abiding citizens and politicians, you know, everybody has their right statesman motives.

• 2:02:09Speaker 03

  No, people's rights are violated every day in this country. We need law and order. That's why Trump is president. He's bringing it to the country.

• 2:02:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I think we take a look back that there's been two ways that we've handled things internationally. Ronald Reagan goes on microphone and says, "We're gonna take an action in Grenada," and they're doing it, and they're doing it under my signature, and I got support from Congress. And then you've got the United Fruit Company. And the United Fruit Company, for decades, you know who I'm talking about.

• 2:02:35Speaker 05

  LGBTQ, oh, you mean fruit.

• 2:02:36Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no.

• 2:02:37Speaker 05

  The Fruit Company. My bad. Just, I'm sorry.

• 2:02:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Sorry, it's okay. Easy mistake. The United Fruit Company is the CIA and Oliver North and the Iran-Contra arms thing. And so, we've aided things internationally that way. But this way, right now, this is not the United Fruit Company and CIA. This is front and center, and I agree with restraining the war powers part of this, saying, but I disagree with preventing us of giving, you know, Israel the right tool to do the job. Because, let's, would you, would you like to know who is- Provided, what is, what is the number, maybe you know, you've been at briefings. Eighty-two percent of the arms in Israel are, is our stuff. The good stuff.

• 2:03:23Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:03:24Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's the really good stuff. It's not the old F-4 Phantoms that you could hear it two days before you can see it. This is like real planes with real, you know, advanced technology forward. And so, we're providing this, we sell this to Israel and provide it as a, a part of foreign aid in hardware. So what is the difference of supplying them with, I mean, access to a B-2 and a bunker buster? I draw the line right there. I don't want the president without going under the War Powers Act to act properly. I bet, I don't want our guys on the ground over there.

• 2:04:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I think everybody here agrees on that. The, the only thing that, for the first time, we all agreed on here is that the number one is what? You don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons.

• 2:04:13Tom Ellsworth?

  No nuke.

• 2:04:13Speaker 05

  Nope.

• 2:04:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Period.

• 2:04:14Patrick Bet-David?

  At all costs.

• 2:04:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Full stop.

• 2:04:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Preferably without our involvement, them doing it. Are you okay if we, uh, supply weapons to them if they need the weapon to get rid of Fordow?

• 2:04:23Speaker 05

  If, if he goes to Congress and gets the approval? Yeah.

• 2:04:26Patrick Bet-David?

  How about he doesn't go to Congress and get the approval?

• 2:04:28Speaker 05

  I mean, it's, it's, it's breaking the law. I want it to be done the right, I want, me personally, I want it done the right way.

• 2:04:33Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, you know what's... It's in the annual budget, the foreign aid to Israel's in the annual budget and a lot of that foreign aid is military stuff. It's already been approved by Congress. We provide them stuff, every Monday they ship stuff. So you have to think about that way.

• 2:04:45Speaker 03

  But they need, the problem is they need our pilot to do the bunker buster. So that's, that's where the War Powers Act would be intervened.

• 2:04:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Even if it's one pilot were involved.

• 2:04:53Speaker 03

  If it's, if we're involved. So like, it's one thing to sell your munitions, sell your missiles, sell the equipment, we do that. When we give Israel on the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act, three to four billion dollars a year, previous to October 7th, we've done more than that. So they do get equipment, they do, uh, we do all that. But once you put, they have to have our pilot and our plane to do it. And so that's where the War Powers Act comes in.

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• 2:06:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Well.

• 2:06:20Speaker 03

  It's complicated.

• 2:06:21Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, what just happened right there is, if you need the pilot.

• 2:06:26Speaker 05

  That's what I'm saying. You're gonna bring it. You gotta use us.

• 2:06:29Patrick Bet-David?

  If you need the pilot, here we go. Listen, X is gonna go bonkers with, you know, the messaging there. There's a lot of people right now that are like, you know, you know, Dave Smith, I think, said the other day, Dave Smith is one of the better debaters out there in the marketplace. He said he voted for Trump and he asked Trump to be impeached. This is what he said a few days ago. I don't know if you saw this. Go for it, Ryan.

• 2:06:51Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:06:52Speaker 06

  I supported him this last year. I apologize for doing so. It was a bad calculation. At the time, it seemed like the right one, but he should be impeached and removed for this one and not, not on some like, not, not on some ridiculous Nancy Pelosi. Of course, the Congress will never do it because they're all a bunch of, you know, corrupt hacks. This is the one thing they support. This is like, yeah. Donald Trump should be impeached and removed for this. All of his supporters should turn on him. It's the absolute betrayal of everything that he ran and campaigned on and everything that he stood for. And I will say, despite the fact that, you know, Donald Trump supporters have been labeled like a cult following, and that certainly is true for a percentage of his supporters, he is gonna lose his coalition over this.

• 2:07:35Speaker 06

  There, there, I, I, I know, I, I don't just speak for myself, but I say, there are a lot of us who simply will not go along with this. So it's just a devastating mistake. By the way, on top of that, he's also gonna lose the deportation fight because of this. Because right now, he needed all the political capital he could have to turn that, you know, you got a majority support for deportations, but the minority is very mobilized and they're out and they're protesting all around the country. He needed all of his political capital for that move. So here's what we got. The neocons win. More war abroad and, you know, bomb the world and invite the world. No matter who you vote for, you always get John McCain.

• 2:08:11Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about what he said?

• 2:08:12Speaker 03

  He's wrong. I don't think impeached for what there's nothing that Trump has done that's impeachable and he's not made a decision on what he's going to do yet. So I think that that statement was premature because Trump hasn't decided and we don't know is it going to be a very surgical thing or are we going to give provide you know the missiles and bombs that are needed or not and so very premature. I think what Trump is doing with the deportations helps him not hurts him. I think the riots that are happening around the country that he referenced don't hurt him. It helps Republicans. It helps MAGA. It helps Donald Trump. It helps us on our midterm elections in 26 and the presidential election in 28. If you are willing

• 2:08:53Speaker 03

  to burn your city down because the president wants to follow the law, you're going to lose elections for a very long time. So I think he is, I think, misread the situation and Trump has even said for 15 years Iran can't have nukes. Now, he doesn't want to be there. I don't want to be there, but if they need a bomb, I'm okay with giving them a bomb. I don't want our men and women on the ground. There's a very big difference, I think, in and you all serve, not me, but I think there's a very big difference in that.

• 2:09:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So by the way, remember, it's very interesting what she said. If you think about technicalities, Nancy and us, we don't want man on the ground. If it's a pilot, it's not really a man on the ground.

• 2:09:34Speaker 05

  There's no boots on the ground. There's boots in the sky.

• 2:09:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't want any man on the ground, but I wouldn't mind a couple boots. We almost may have to.

• 2:09:42Speaker 05

  Boots in a plane.

• 2:09:43Speaker 03

  I want to see that 30,000 pound bunker buster. I mean, I want to see it work. I want to see it work.

• 2:09:49Patrick Bet-David?

  It's gonna be, it's gonna be bonkers is what is gonna happen.

• 2:09:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, trick the Democrats with their own, with their own techniques and so we'll have Colonel Smithers says, at this moment, I identify as an Israeli.

• 2:10:00Speaker 03

  And I'm not a neocon. Like I have, I have co-sponsored many a war powers resolution. Like I believe in following the letter of the law and I did not believe in the forever wars. This is just different.

• 2:10:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, alright, well, let's read this about immigration. Watch this number here. Some people are gonna be disappointed with this.

• 2:10:16Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:10:16Patrick Bet-David?

  US may lose more migrants than it gains for the first time in 50 years. Okay, this is from Daily Mail. Economist Wendy Edelberg told the WAPO for the year as a whole 2025, "We think it's likely immigration will be negative predicting the US will lose more migrants than it gains for the first time in 50 years due to Trump's policies, including revoking legal status threatening international student deportations and cracking down on illegal southern border crossings." ICE Director Todd M. Lyons stated, "We're just 100 days into this administration and thanks to President Trump and Secretary Noem, ICE is using every tool at its disposal to enforce our country's immigration laws with

• 2:10:57Patrick Bet-David?

  66,463 undocumented migrants arrested and 65,682 removed in Trump's first 100 days. Trump's border crackdown reduced Customs and Border Protection encounters to 12,035 in April, down from 179,737 from prior year." What was that sound?

• 2:11:16Tom Ellsworth?

  I was like, "choosh."

• 2:11:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I thought you sneezed. Tom almost had a heart attack.

• 2:11:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm okay, I'm still with you.

• 2:11:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Wild deportation surge with over 50,000 migrants in ICE detention centers by June 5th. This is NBC News, June 17th. And by the way, I don't know if you saw the New York Post story from three days ago?

• 2:11:34Speaker 03

  Which one?

• 2:11:34Patrick Bet-David?

  A million people have self-deported.

• 2:11:36Speaker 03

  Oh, yes, I saw that.

• 2:11:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So, what do you...

• 2:11:38Speaker 03

  That's great.

• 2:11:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Does this concern you that we're gonna have a net migration number this year?

• 2:11:42Speaker 03

  No, I think it's great. But the thing is, the media, the mainstream media wanna blame Trump. These are not Trump policies. This is the letter of the law. This is our country's own laws. And if you don't follow the law in your country,

• 2:11:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:11:58Speaker 03

  you don't have a country at all. It's just like the state of South Carolina. We don't follow the laws in South Carolina, we don't have a state. So, he's just following the letter of the law. But also, it also, while we're deporting, we also recognize there are jobs that need to be filled, that Americans need the opportunity to fill. If we can't fill them, then we need people to come here with work visas, come here legally, work, go back home. We have a lot of that, actually, in my district. Because we're heavy tourism for nine months out of the year, we're bringing in Jamaicans and from other countries. And they're doing food and bev industry for nine months. They go home for three months. They come back. It works really well. Um, but, uh, no, he's, he's doing the country a, a service and a favor. I love what he's doing. I love the self deportation. I love the gold card. Bring your money here.

• 2:12:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Five million bucks.

• 2:12:45Patrick Bet-David?

  With your five million bucks. I gotta love it. Tom, you made a look, Tom. What was that look about? You disagree with what she said.

• 2:12:53Speaker 03

  I saw it in the side eye. I felt it. I saw it in the side eye.

• 2:12:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Not gonna lie, Nancy, respectfully, I'm a married man. He's been trying to avoid looking at you the entire podcast. Because he doesn't want, he wants to stay as focused as possible. Go ahead, Tom.

• 2:13:07Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I think this is good. This is good. It's neutral, right? The ones removed and the ones that came in lawfully, it's neutral, whether it's a temporary work visa or not.

• 2:13:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, you made a look. Tell us what that look was.

• 2:13:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was.

• 2:13:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I felt it as well.

• 2:13:21Speaker 05

  Oh, she, she, I.

• 2:13:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell us, Tom. What was the look about?

• 2:13:25Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know. She was talking about the Jamaicans and the seasonal labor, which I'm, I'm in favor of.

• 2:13:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You're making me crazy, Tom. What was the look about?

• 2:13:32Tom Ellsworth?

  She said it was hospitality. So what Jamaican? Margaritas probably.

• 2:13:37Speaker 05

  Got it, got it.

• 2:13:38Patrick Bet-David?

  But what do you think about it? Because when you think about, when you think about the, the, there's a, there's a couple of ways to look at this. If I'm, if I'm the enemy, if I am on the other opposite side, like I would literally use this if I'm on the democratic side. If I'm on the liberal side, I'm saying, think about, you have a restaurant that for, you know, nearly 249 years, everybody wanted to come to this restaurant, but we don't have room in this restaurant, right? And then all of a sudden a new leader comes in and now people are no longer coming to the restaurant. They're leaving to the restaurant across the street. Let's just say if they're gonna spin that, right? Cause that's a way of spinning it on the opposite side. Is this something that the opposite side can spin and say, "Look what we've done to the country that immigrants no longer want to come to America

• 2:14:22Patrick Bet-David?

  because they don't think the American dream is real." Do you process it that way, Tom?

• 2:14:26Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I don't, because I would invite them to come and look at the asylum applications. My understanding is asylum applications are level year over year, meaning the people that are there, "I'd like to immigrate from this country where I'm seriously persecuted and here's my evidence to it." My understanding that there is still that, right? We're not closing the wall at the border. We're allowing people to come through the door and be checked and to do it lawfully. That's simple. Give us your tired, your poor, lives on, but let's do it legally. And if you need asylum, if you're being persecuted, we've got procedures for that. Come over.

• 2:15:09Tom Ellsworth?

  And so, I look at this and what it says to me is that the uncontrolled immigration issue of the Biden administration is coming under control to be the lawful immigration, according to the pre-existing laws that are being enforced by a new sheriff in town. And his name is Donald Trump and he's not making new laws. He's enforcing the ones he was elected to enforce.

• 2:15:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Tom was woken up. That's all I wanted. Amen. That's what we were waiting for, Tom. That's some fire right there. That was like a scene. That was a scene from Old School where Will Ferrell is debating and then they ask him a question. And he's like, "I just came out of it," but it was great. So, Tom, a couple of things before we wrap up. Nancy, I want to get your thoughts on this as well. I'm sure you're a big fan of this guy, Jim Acosta. Former CNN star slammed for a vile joke about Trump's dead ex-wife. What a title in the first place. I mean, look how low you've gotten where you're going here. Jim Acosta, on the Contrarian Podcast, No Kings, No Parents, No Monday, remarked on President Donald Trump's immigration policy, saying, "Where are the ICE raids at Trump's properties? Could somebody call ICE on Trump's golf course in Virginia?"

• 2:16:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You're telling me there's nobody in there that's undocumented or some of the... Kind of squirreliness going on on their paperwork then referenced Trump's late ex-wife Ivana stating he's got one buried at his golf course in New Jersey. Who talks like this? Isn't she buried at the first hole? I don't even want to say this. Play this. I don't want to read this. Watch this clip.

• 2:16:37Speaker 05

  Look at the look on these people.

• 2:16:38Speaker 06

  I got a question though. Where are the ICE raids at the Trump properties? My, yes. Can somebody call ICE on the Trump golf course in Virginia? Yes, by the way. You're telling me there's nobody in there that is undocumented or has some kind of squirreliness going on with their paperwork? Give me a break. Hey, how many immigrants is he married? He's got one buried at his golf course in New Jersey.

• 2:17:01Patrick Bet-David?

  What the?

• 2:17:01Speaker 06

  Isn't she buried by the first hole or the second tee or something like that? The first hole, yeah, it's the first hole. Immigrants always doing the jobs that Americans don't want to do. He's definitely not want to get.

• 2:17:13Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you respond to that?

• 2:17:15Speaker 03

  That's, I mean, that's embarrassing and it's disgusting. I mean, they just, they hate him so much, they just can't help themselves, which is why they're going to continue to lose. I'm kind of like, okay with it. Say that. Put it on a microphone. Air it everywhere. Every YouTube channel. On X, you play that way because all it's going to do is to bring more independents and more former Democrats into the Republican Party tent.

• 2:17:41Speaker 05

  Yup.

• 2:17:41Speaker 03

  And we need them and we need them.

• 2:17:43Speaker 05

  And you nailed it. First of all, just that shot right there, Rob, just that thumbnail, look at it. Angry black woman, I don't even know what that, what she is, I don't know, male, whatever that is.

• 2:17:52Speaker 03

  Crazy lip.

• 2:17:53Speaker 05

  And then Jim McCasa, and you're right Nancy, I got, you gotta give, I actually love the guy, but it's because of him that Donald Trump at that press conference said, I'm not going to give you any questions. You're fake news. It was born because of that hack now that's in a Substack. I think Gavin Newsom's in there. Once you hear, I'm doing a Substack, it's over. Nobody wants to see your face anymore.

• 2:18:14Speaker 03

  And what they have done, and I've seen this with young people, I have two teenage kids, they have made this young generation more conservative than you and I could ever imagine. I mean, like, they're following Ben Shapiro, they're crazy about Charlie Kirk, they love MAGA. I mean, it is incredible because. Because they see the way they've been treated growing up. And they're like, no, no more, not doing this. And they see the hero that Trump is. And that kind of attitude, those kind of comments have made this next generation more conservative than any of us here at this table today, and I am grateful for it.

• 2:18:50Speaker 05

  Thank God.

• 2:18:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Gotta love it. Well, listen, thanks to Jim Acosta, we have fake news. Last thing I want to wrap up with, with this story, because I'm also curious on what you guys think about this in, in DC. So for the longest time, when you're campaigning, it's about going on Fox, going on CNN, going on MSNBC, going on all these different places, right? So streaming surpasses combined broadcast and cable viewing for the first time ever. New York Times said it's official, streaming is now the king of TV. Damn, that's pretty wild. And by the way, I got an announcement that I'll make, maybe Tom will say it before I say it, but here we go. So streaming, okay. Nielsen's Tuesday report revealed that in May, streaming services accounted for a higher share of television viewing

• 2:19:36Patrick Bet-David?

  than cable and broadcast networks combined. And John Coblen noting it is the first time that has happened over a full month in 2021. Streaming held 26% of TV time compared to nearly two thirds of cable and broadcast, a gap that has now closed. And streaming surpassed traditional TV viewership in just four years. Well, viewers over 65, who represent one third of total TV viewing, drove the shift with Nielsen stating their YouTube watch time last month grew 106% from May of 2023, equaling the viewing hours of children under 11 years old. Since 2023, this age group has been the fastest growing for YouTube and TV sets, particularly favoring free, non-subscription platforms like YouTube.

• 2:20:19Patrick Bet-David?

  The surge of streaming was initially led by younger viewers, but the adoption by older viewers, who watch more television than any other group, solidified the overtake as older viewers have been moving to streaming in droves in the last few years. How do you guys view as you're campaigning, as you're going, you're doing your thing? Is it still the talks about going on Fox, going on mainstream? Or is the, is everybody bought into the fact that the way to do is podcast? You know, different YouTube channels to go on.

• 2:20:44Speaker 03

  I do a lot less mainstream media now. Like, I don't, I get an ABC News or CBS News request. I'm like, nah, I'm good. I do Fox News, though, still. I think they've got a great reach, their online reach as well. But last year, when I, I run my own races, when I had my campaign, we only did cord cutters for the TV. We did just streaming only and some digital stuff. We didn't do any, I didn't do cable or broadcast, really, really, any of that, hardly. I put more of my effort into streaming. And in fact, like Spotify too, I mean, YouTube, to reach every possible audience I could because of all the cord cutters. I'm in a pretty, I think, wealthy, modern district. We have a lot of cord cutters, and that's where I focused most of my investment when I got my reelection. I won by a larger margin last year than I ever have.

• 2:21:29Patrick Bet-David?

  How big was the margin?

• 2:21:30Speaker 03

  Uh, 27%, 26, 27% in my primary, Republican primary. I had somebody spend over 7 million against me in that race. It was tough. And then my general election, I won by 18 points. Now, mind you, four years ago, I won by one. When I, I flipped a Democrat seat. So I won by one the first time, four years ago. By my reelection this past year, I won by almost 20.

• 2:21:51Patrick Bet-David?

  And the primary used 7 million against you?

• 2:21:54Speaker 03

  Over 7 million was spent against me.

• 2:21:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Damn.

• 2:21:56Speaker 03

  Over one vote.

• 2:21:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. Tom?

• 2:21:58Speaker 03

  So.

• 2:21:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, congratulations for that. We know Beth Van Dyne. She had a similar experience where she won by a razor as Pelosi was pouring money into a Dallas 24.

• 2:22:10Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:22:10Tom Ellsworth?

  And then, and then when the vote was counted, the next one, she destroyed them once they saw what she was gonna do. What's interesting here, we'll give you a little focus group on this. We had dinner just the other night with a prominent, we won't name names, but prominent, very prominent, um, media individual from the agency side in LA. And he talked about his older parents have two TVs. One, his mom was watching YouTube and watching podcasts, and the other one, they had basically general news on all day. But there was people over 65, sitting there, watching it. And that's similar for my mom. My mom watches on the small. And so now the words talk, numbers scream, and you've got...

• 2:22:53Tom Ellsworth?

  But now, streaming is, the battle's over because you're looking at stats that are looking, you know, 60, 90 days in the past. And what's happening going forward is the cable subs are going down. You see it every quarterly report that Comcast makes, and your DirecTV, a shell of its previous self. And so now you've got, the new audiences are choosing podcasts. And more importantly, is they see the podcasts as sources of more authenticity, and they're increasingly skeptical of what's going on. And we know CNN's for sale, it's just been packaged up in a little package, and they're gonna spin it on the stock market as a separate

• 2:23:36Tom Ellsworth?

  company. And that's where they're going with that. And by the way, when they were trying to sell CNN, they actually said, "Don't worry about the contracts, we'll mitigate the contracts." And we've got Caitlyn, basically, on the rookie deal, only at about $3 million a year. So, they're even selling against themselves. And the era of high-dollar Anderson Coopers are over. You know, those contracts are gonna be out, they're gonna be cut. And then you're like, "Jim Acosta has to go find an audience on a friggin' podcast!" He can't say that on mainstream media, because they won't have him on. So even he is nerfing for moisture, looking out on a podcast, trying to find someplace that'll let him speak. So, I think this is a wonderful thing, but more than just the shift to cord cutters, it is a shift

• 2:24:18Tom Ellsworth?

  of America looking for authenticity, and looking for opinion that they can trust.

• 2:24:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Did somebody give you like, two additional cups of coffee last seven minutes, 11 minutes? Something happened.

• 2:24:28Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm out of coffee!

• 2:24:29Speaker 03

  That was spot on, though.

• 2:24:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Where did it go?

• 2:24:31Speaker 03

  He was spot on.

• 2:24:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you hear about what Netflix announced?

• 2:24:33Speaker 03

  No, what did Netflix announce?

• 2:24:34Patrick Bet-David?

  So Netflix has got 350 million viewers, right? Massive. Now they're talking about, they're thinking about getting into the podcast game.

• 2:24:43Speaker 03

  Really?

• 2:24:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So imagine now you're watching Netflix and like, let me watch Rogan, let me watch Flagrant, let me watch, you know, Theo, let me watch now, I, right there Netflix is eyeing video podcasts as it expands beyond TV and film as YouTube dominates the podcast space. Netflix sees an opportunity to woo creators and blur the lines between talk shows and podcasts.

• 2:25:06Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:25:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Coming to a TV near you folks.

• 2:25:10Speaker 03

  Built-in, huge built-in audience for any podcaster that can get on Netflix.

• 2:25:14Patrick Bet-David?

  For sure. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Well, this has been a blast having you on. And we're gonna have you back on next year to see whether you're gonna apologize or if that was right. So we gotta follow up.

• 2:25:23Speaker 03

  I'll bring flowers or not. I believe you're buying me flowers.

• 2:25:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, exactly. It's gonna be one of us. But it was a blast having you on, folks.

• 2:25:30Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 2:25:30Patrick Bet-David?

  The last thing before we wrap up, we had a weird podcast we did the other day with Scott Storch. I think, Rob, Scott Storch is when? Tomorrow? Tomorrow at 9 a.m. Tomorrow at 9 a.m. with Scott Storch. So if you know Scott Storch, the hip-hop, it's a completely different world. We've had the weirdest guests. We had Dwayne Howard, Meta World Peace, Nancy, Scott Storch. Just like, you know, we just like to talk to people. That's what we like to do. But anyways, gang, it was great having you on. We will not do any home team between now and next Tuesday. Have a great weekend. Take care, everybody. Bye-bye, bye-bye.

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