Trump’s Third Term Triggers Liberal MELTDOWN | PBD Podcast | Ep. 569

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick react to Trump’s third term tease, Elon Musk & DOGE exposing a migrant social security scandal, Lawrence O'Donnell's pay demands after Maddow’s contract leak, and Gavin Newsom calling the Democratic Party toxic. ------ 🎒 LIMITED EDITION RED LEATHER VT BACKPACK: https://bit.ly/3Ri5Gpn 👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH: ⁠https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l⁠ https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:12Tom Ellsworth?

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• 0:16Speaker 02

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• 0:50Speaker 03

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here. You are a one of one? My son's right. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, folks, hope you had a good weekend. There's a lot of crazy things going on right now that we gotta be talking about. Apparently, there's a bunch of social security numbers that were given away to non-citizens the last three years, four years. Weird. Which is very weird, very weird. You gotta see this chart, kinda strange. We haven't reacted to, by the way, Vinny just ate a bug, that's why he's... Literally swallowed a bug. If you, did you post it already or not? If you go to PBD Podcast, Manek Circle, you will see him while he's recording it, the bug goes in his mouth. By the way, shout out to Manek Circles. All the people that are debating... Engaging and going, I love it. Oh my god, like throughout the entire day, they're going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, lots of good stories on Manek Circles. But, few stories here.

• 1:51Patrick Bet-David?

  One, Trump holds extremely productive call with Canadian Prime Minister. We agree on many things. He's talking about Carney. At the same time, Maxime just came out, Bernier, and he just came out and did what RFK did. He went behind Pierre Poliev, which we will respond to as well. I... Had a tweet I put out there with uh uh directed to Pierre Poliev that I'll read it to you here in a few minutes on why I believe what he needs to be doing. It's really um a very directed pointed message on what needs to be done. We'll talk about that as well. Uh how Trump could be president until 2037. These talks are getting more and more popular and a lot of people are asking about it left and right.

• 2:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump might let taxes rise for the rich to cover tax breaks on tips. That's an Axios story. Trump expresses anger at Putin at uh as Ukraine talks makes little progress. He says reciprocal tariffs set to start with all countries today. I believe it's today if it hasn't already. Trump warned US automakers not to raise prices in response to tariffs. But at the same time, he said the following. Trump on if auto companies raise costs due to tariffs. He says, I couldn't care less. We'll play that clip to you. Far right influencers are hosting a $10,000 per person matchmaking weekend to repopulate the earth. Let me read that to you one more time. Far right influencers are hosting a $10,000 per person matchmaking weekend

• 3:17Patrick Bet-David?

  to repopulate the earth. Come together conservatives, make babies, marry each other, go. Come together, marry each other, go. That's for $10,000 a pop. Uh um not a pop meaning you can buy two of them. I'm just saying like that's how much it is to go per person. I gotta make it an audience. I don't want you guys to think past that. No one wants her. Biden aids, warn donors that replacing Joe with his handpicked VP would be a disaster. Guys, it's so embarrassing. There's people on the left that are saying they don't even know if she's gonna win the governorship, let alone the presidency. And some of them are saying we want, we want her to come back because she could be the president. Absolute mayhem. We'll talk about that. CK Hutchinson. Out of all the stories we're talking about, this may be the number one story. More than anything else. You ready? Panama Canal?

• 4:00Patrick Bet-David?

  CK Hutchinson will not sign the deal to sell strategic Panama ports next week, CNBC says. What happened? Well, that's the phone call. She made the phone call. So you can't be doing that. I'm speculating. Marine Le Pen banned from running for French presidency in 2027 and given four year sentence in embezzlement trial. Americans are spending, spending less as they brace for new tariffs. Bill Gates said the following. Within 10 years, AI will replace many doctors and teachers. Humans won't be needed for most things. This is from.

• 4:34Patrick Bet-David?

  This is from, uh, what do you call it? From, uh, where are we at here?

• 4:38Adam Sosnick?

  Bill Gates?

• 4:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Bill Gates, yes. And then these nuclear companies are leading the race to build advanced small reactors in the US. Yankees new torpedo bats create a steer amid 15 homer weekend barrage. Which is, by the way, I mean, good for the Yankees, what they're doing. The guy's an MIT guy. Nothing they're doing is illegal.

• 4:59Adam Sosnick?

  Nope.

• 4:59Patrick Bet-David?

  But they're hitting home runs left and right, so we'll see what happened there. Foul trouble, couples filing out, filling out March Madness prenups as 28% argue, arguments caused by watching sports. 28% of arguments are caused by watching sports. Great. Mark Cuban claims he lost hundreds of millions of dollars owning the Dallas Mavericks. Musk announces Doge's next strangely wealthy target. Wait till you see which one this is. This definitely went, got a lot of attention. RFK dares governor of West Virginia, America's fattest state, to do regular public weigh-ins. And you have to see this governor to see why he's targeting this person. California Gavin Newsom says the Democratic brand is toxic. Rachel Maddow's pay fuels jealousy as Lawrence O'Donnell is off-air.

• 5:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Prince Andrew's accused of Virginia. Geoffrey has days to live after being hit by school bus. I'm ready to go. And a Daily Mail story says, "Internet is divided as company launches breast milk flavored ice cream."

• 6:00Adam Sosnick?

  I don't even, I don't get it.

• 6:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you tried it yet?

• 6:04Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 6:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Breast milk flavored ice cream. Okay.

• 6:07Adam Sosnick?

  It's been 46 years.

• 6:08Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's that story. All right, next.

• 6:09Adam Sosnick?

  It's been 46 years. I haven't tried any breast milk.

• 6:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Next, Joe Rogan split with Trump on deportations to help on Earth prison. Somebody's in that group that Tom was a little bit concerned about. Leslie Stahl's viral clip from 60 Minutes interview sparks outrage. By the way, this is, this has gotta be the dumbest question asked in the history of journalism.

• 6:28Adam Sosnick?

  Horrible.

• 6:29Patrick Bet-David?

  But they gotta see it. Pam Bondi wants to give 20 years to people for, in prison, for Colorado man accused of firebombing Tesla dealership.

• 6:37Adam Sosnick?

  Good.

• 6:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Elon Musk claims he's given... Alleged baby mama, baby mama Ashley St. Clair, $2.5 million, $500,000 per year, despite not knowing if the child is mine or not. That's what Musk said and then she sold her Tesla and then some good things happened with Chris Ruddy. Okay, so that's that. I know we've got a few other stories that we'll play, a couple of clips that we have to show, that you have to go through. But prior to us getting into the podcast, guys, a lot of you have been asking about this. If you were at the Vault Conference, we had these backpacks and the backpacks went off, like it was gone within minutes, that for the rest of the three days, everybody was asking, where are the ValueTainment backpacks? I want them. This is genuine leather, red, limited

• 7:22Patrick Bet-David?

  edition numbered on the side, out of 100, okay? And then it's the ValueTainment logo on the front. It says ValueTainment right here. Even this, this, what do you call it? Zipper. You know, here it's got the ValueTainment logo on it, limited edition, red, ValueTainment backpack, genuine leather. These will go in no time. There's only 100 of these. You won't see these again. Limited on the side, it's got it numbered, whatever number you're going to be getting, 2 out of 100, 58 out of 100, it'll be numbered. And typically when you see these, what ends up happening is some people buy them and they post them on eBay and they sell it for three times. And you see that with hats. Some of the hats that we have, the Future Looks Bright hat, are on eBay. Some guys are selling for $3,500, $3,000, $500. And some of them are able to sell them.

• 8:07Patrick Bet-David?

  But for you, if you're somebody that follows ValueTainment very closely and you're proud of the brand and you want to sport it, go get these limited edition, one out of 100, 100, red leather backpack on VTmerch.com. These will go in no time. Maybe a good gift for your husband. Maybe a good gift for your son, maybe a good gift for somebody that would actually, maybe for your wife, somebody that would sport this. But go to VTmerch.com to place your order. Okay. Having said that, let's get right into it. Rob, can you pull out the chart, pull up the chart of Elon Musk showing the number of social securities. So they're showing that he's giving a talk. I believe this is in Wisconsin, if I'm not mistaken. They're campaigning, today's a very

• 8:50Patrick Bet-David?

  big day for Wisconsin. He roared the whole Cheesehead, signed it, sent it in the audience himself. But they're showing the data here. And I want you to pay attention to this and ask yourself, why is this happening? Go ahead, Rob, if you can play the clip.

• 9:04Speaker 06

  You see 270,000 people, goes all the way to 2.1 million in 24. These are non-citizens that are getting social security numbers.

• 9:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, this is a mind-blowing chart.

• 9:12Speaker 06

  Yeah, just, this literally blew us away. Like, we went there to find fraud, and we found this by accident. And this isn't political, by the way. My parents are immigrants.

• 9:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Legal.

• 9:25Speaker 06

  Yeah, this country's been great to us. My brother and sister are all born in Spain. I'm pro-legal immigration. This is not, this is not political. This is not political. This is about America and the future of America.

• 9:38Speaker 06

  And there are a lot of good people in the system that pointed this in this direction. I want to, I want to honor them right now. That work in the government today, who took risks to show us these numbers and tell us what's going on.

• 9:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 9:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it right there, Rob. Pause it right there. Okay, so can you zoom in? So, do you know what this is? If you, if you're watching, so this is new, non-citizen, social security numbers issued. The furthest one to the left is 2021. That's Biden's first year, okay? Is there a way to see what that number is?

• 10:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I can read it. I can't zoom in because it's a video, but it's 270,425.

• 10:09Patrick Bet-David?

  That's first year 2021 Biden giving out social securities. Second year looks like 590, if I'm not mistaken, Rob. Third year looks like 964.

• 10:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 10:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And fourth year is over 2 million, but is it 2,095,000?

• 10:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, 2,095,247.

• 10:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And can you, can you do me a favor and research? And then, this year, in the first few months, which means this is, is that really 960 in the first few months?

• 10:34Tom Ellsworth?

  900, 900,649.

• 10:37Patrick Bet-David?

  That is wild to be thinking about. Rob, what, what is the year that we've given out the most social security numbers out to non-US citizens? Can we just kind of see? So, 2.1 million, that means out of 340 million people living here, 1% of social security cards were given away just last year in 2024.

• 10:58Tom Ellsworth?

  To people that aren't supposed to be here.

• 10:59Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not, these are not, what is the most? What's the most? What's the most? What's the most social security numbers?

• 11:10Patrick Bet-David?

  In a year to non-citizens, what was that? Over 2 million. So the record is in 2024, over 2 million.

• 11:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 11:20Patrick Bet-David?

  That is absolutely insane. So now, very basic, why did this happen? What percentage of them do you think are going to be voting Republican? What percentage of them are we thinking are going to be voting on the left? Who did this? What was the motive? Tom, lots of questions, your thoughts on this?

• 11:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, my thoughts on this is obviously, first of all, I really appreciate this guy saying, "Hey, I'm in favor of legal immigration," and thanking the people that were working in the SSA, Social Security Administration, who cooperated with them and said, "Hey, you're here looking for waste and fraud? You need to see this." So that means that there are people in the Social Security Administration who are realizing what was happening. And what do I think about this? I think the administration in power at the time was a Biden administration, and the support of Schumer and Pelosi were very, very liberal on this issue. They were issuing social security numbers to non-citizens. They were helping people who got here to stay here and work here legally.

• 12:20Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, Vinny, I'll give you something here. Let me ask you a question. So every state in the nation, you have to be a citizen and you have to have a social security number to get a real estate license or an insurance license. And Pat would know something about that. He founded that vision and built one of the largest insurance distribution companies in history. And guess what? We would go to the states and say, "Well, all the person has is an I-10," which is a temporary number. Sorry, can't be an agent. If you have a social security number and then they lied to us about citizenship, guess what? The state of California, the state of Texas wouldn't know. You'd, now you're, now you've got this. So they're giving social security numbers out to people, I believe, knowing full well

• 13:03Tom Ellsworth?

  that they're helping them hide in plain sight as ill- Because you go up to get a job and they and they say, do you have a social security card? Yes, I do. I'll show you my social security card and my number right here. And you fill out a, what's it called, an I-9 with them? Is that, I think that's the form that an employee has to fill out to say that they're a citizen, an I-9. And so, this is the previous administration giving social security numbers out so people can hide in plain sight who are actually not citizens.

• 13:33Adam Sosnick?

  And the main goal was for what, Tom? To change the voting bloc in America?

• 13:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, there it is. I-9, you fill that out and you have to show something. So here's my social security number, here's my driver's license.

• 13:42Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 13:43Tom Ellsworth?

  And guess what?

• 13:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, I just found it. I found a year with the most given, Rob. So more than 37 million social security numbers had been issued by the end of 1937. That's a total had been given. In the next dozen years, the number varied with the number of new entrants into covered employment. It reached at a peak of 7.6 million, given in 1942, but dropped to 2.7 million post-war period 46 through 50, okay?

• 14:10Tom Ellsworth?

  But wasn't the first year the starting point? Because there was only like 90 million Americans at that point.

• 14:15Patrick Bet-David?

  But hear me out, this continues. Then the highest number of social security numbers issued in a single year was 9.1 million in 1990. Here's a more detailed breakdown. The peak year for social numbers was, uh, uh, uh... Rob, do me a favor, type this in Google and you'll see exactly what I'm looking at. Most social security numbers given in a single year. Most social security numbers given in a single year. So it should come up perfect, and that's exactly what I'm looking at, yeah. So I have, I have another one that says 9.1 million, but we'll find that as well. So this is, uh, we've issued 450 million social security numbers since day one, with an average of about 5.5 million numbers assigned annually. But how many is it to non-US citizens, though?

• 14:59Patrick Bet-David?

  The peak year, I don't know, 7.6 million. What's it going to post, 2.7 million? I have here, it says the highest number was in 1990, was 9.1 million. But I wonder if that is to... Yeah, if you type in, if you...

• 15:15Tom Ellsworth?

  It can't be non-citizens, right?

• 15:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, it cannot be. Rob, can you type this in? What I just sent you, just type that in Google, if you could. Uh, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. Do you see which one I texted you?

• 15:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 15:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's see what comes up with this.

• 15:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Nine, okay, zoom in right there, right. Is it Family Support Act 1988 and the Growth and Enumeration at Birth Program combined to increase the number of social security numbers issued to 9.1 million people in 1990, but the figure decreased to 7.6, uh, 5 million in 1991, the number of dependents who were required to get social security numbers under the Family Support Act diminishing? So what is that about? Can you look?

• 16:00Tom Ellsworth?

  I believe, look this up, I believe the Family Support Act was if you were claiming dependents on your tax return, they had to have a social security number, and sometimes people wouldn't get social security numbers for their kids until they were 16 and going to get a job. So I think that 15 million in two years was so that people could, had to put a valid social security number on their tax return-

• 16:21Patrick Bet-David?

  For taxes.

• 16:22Tom Ellsworth?

  -to identify a dependent.

• 16:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So then the title here is what? New non-citizen social security numbers issued. New non-citizen. What is the most we've done for new non-citizens? I'm really curious at this point. Most social security numbers given to non-US citizens.

• 16:50Speaker 00

  Your sausage McMuffin with egg didn't change, your receipt did. The sausage McMuffin with egg extra value meal includes a hash brown and a small coffee for just $5. Only at McDonald's for a limited time. Price and participation may vary. Promotion pricing may be lower than meal pricing.

• 17:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you able to find it? Do you see any of it?

• 17:42Tom Ellsworth?

  It keeps coming back to 2024 with 2 million. Yep.

• 17:46Patrick Bet-David?

  You keep seeing that. Me too. I keep seeing the same thing as well. Guys in the back, can you also look this up to see? Maybe you find something that we're not seeing. Adam, what are your thoughts on this?

• 17:54Adam Sosnick?

  So

• 17:58Adam Sosnick?

  the

• 18:01Adam Sosnick?

  I'm doing the math here. That's what I'm sort of doing right now. So we talked about last week, these gold card.

• 18:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, have some water.

• 18:08Adam Sosnick?

  I will, buddy. No, I was doing math in the middle of it, but we talked about the gold card last week.

• 18:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 18:13Adam Sosnick?

  People are paying $5 million to get access to America. $5 million. How many people did he said that did this? Like 1,000 people already? They're trying to raise billions of dollars, potentially trillion dollars. Why would you? Why would you pay? Just come in illegally, go through this whatever nonsensical waste, fraud and abuse process. And just come in and get a social security number, just be part of America. So it just seems like the people who are doing things right are put, you know, are not prioritized. People who are skipping the line, not going through the door are just skipping the line and able to cheat the system. So do you know what happened this weekend in the UK? Did you hear what they hosted?

• 19:00Adam Sosnick?

  So this past weekend in the UK, they hosted the summit to end illegal immigration. Uh, it was called the Organized Immigration Crime Summit, put on by Prime Minister of the UK, Keir Starmer. 40 countries participated. $33 million is what they're putting towards doing what? Prosecuting smugglers who are basically helping to smuggle people into the UK and into Europe. And it's not the countries that you would suspect to be there. Obviously, the US was there, France was there, but Vietnam was there? Why is Vietnam there? Iraq was there because this illegal immigration or mass migration is not just an American thing.

• 19:43Adam Sosnick?

  Um, it's not just a UK thing. It's happening all over the world. Essentially, people from

• 19:50Adam Sosnick?

  Poor countries, authoritarian countries are like, what the hell am I doing here? And they're gonna cross the border illegally. The rich people are gonna be okay. Like, we discussed the numbers about, you know, paying $5 million. How many people couldn't afford $5 million? What was the amount of net worth someone needed to have, you think? To pay $5 million for this gold card?

• 20:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Hundred million bucks.

• 20:10Adam Sosnick?

  Hundred million, but how many people have that?

• 20:11Patrick Bet-David?

  We, they came up with a number, 30 million. I don't know what the number was. Rob pulled it up.

• 20:15Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. But those people have options.

• 20:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure.

• 20:18Adam Sosnick?

  So, the point is, you know, there's so much criticism going on from the left towards Elon Musk and Doge and this waste, fraud and abuse. What's wrong with criticizing, obviously, a fallible system that has massive holes in it? It should not be political. What's the one thing the guy said at the beginning? This is not political. This is not political. This is not political. We'll see if it becomes political. Well, if, if we're gonna be real about the situation, this is, it all comes back to the Democrats and cheating, okay? Because they get, why, why give them all social security numbers? And then have them register to vote? Because they wanna change the makeup. They wanna change the voting block because these people are obsessed with power.

• 21:03Adam Sosnick?

  But in that, having a wide open border and having everybody come in, they give them all that, Adam, you know, bad things happen. Meaning, hundreds of thousands of Americans died because of fentanyl, because of border, because mind you, the border's wide open because they want these people to come in illegally and get the social security numbers, but we lose over 100,000 a year from fentanyl and all the drugs, okay? We have hundreds of thousands of missing children that come through the border, okay? Because mind you, they wanna stay in power, okay? How many, how many girls did we see just in the past year that were either raped or murdered by illegals? But the Democrats are like, no, no, no, they're, they're good people. So that goes back to last week's podcast, when I say that they are the enemy of the people. Those people, that party, that's willing to leave the border open for votes and we

• 21:48Adam Sosnick?

  lose American lives, they are the enemy of the people. And Elon Musk yesterday said, um, someone is getting arrested today because he stole 400 100,000 social security numbers and he was selling them. There was an audio of it. So this all boils down to what? The Democrats cheat. They have to cheat. They keep blaming Trump and Trump. That's why when Trump was like, in 2020, they cheated. Obviously, in 2016, they cheated, but the Russia collusion thing didn't work. But that is, you are trying to change the makeup of the country of our, and ruin our livelihoods because you guys want to keep that power. Period.

• 22:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. I mean, I understand what you're saying, your frustration to say Democrats all cheat. That's a blanket statement to everybody. I don't know if it's going to be all. I do think there are, like, when you see a number like this, it doesn't take a dummy to sit there and say, why are you doing this? Why did this happen? Does it correlate with the number of people crossing the border? Yes. So those people that crossed the border, the record-breaking numbers, which I believe it was the most people that crossed the border illegally was in December of 2023. If I'm not mistaken, it was a number 235 or 232, some number like that that came through. So, and then you see this number and it's like, no, it's not, it's not really an issue. It's not really taking place. Now the challenge becomes, what do you do with these guys?

• 23:10Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you do with the people that came here illegally? And AOC talked about, we don't have a illegal immigration problem. We have a documentation problem. What did she call it? There's a word that she said. We have a, like, what do you call it when somebody comes here and they want to become a citizen? The process of...

• 23:31Adam Sosnick?

  An asylum, a legal asylum.

• 23:32Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, it's a different word. But, you know, our immigration problem is a challenge of getting people documented to make them leave.

• 23:38Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah, they want to make, yeah, they want to rush to get them documented.

• 23:41Patrick Bet-David?

  We see numbers like this. It's a little bit weird to say 2.1. Everything I'm looking at right now, it keeps pointing back to 2024, 2024, 2024. But we'll see what happened here. Let me kind of go to a clip that's gone viral, folks, in the last couple of days. It's Leslie Stahl's viral clip from 60 Minutes interview that people are reacting to. It's absolutely berserk. Even Scott Jennings had to say some stuff about this.

• 24:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Earlier, this is a 60-minute interview with freed Israeli-American hostage Keat Segal, when viral after she asked the following question. Go ahead, Rob.

• 24:17Tom Ellsworth?

  The terrorists became very mean and very cruel and violent.

• 24:22Speaker 03

  More so.

• 24:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Much more so. They were beating me and starving me.

• 24:26Speaker 03

  Do you think they starved you, or they just didn't have food?

• 24:30Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I think they starved me, and they would often eat in front of me and not offer me food.

• 24:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back to that question one more time, Rob. Okay, go ahead.

• 24:41Speaker 03

  Do you think they starved you, or they just didn't have food?

• 24:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Can we hear that one more time, Rob? Just one more time. Yeah, go. One more time. I just want to hear.

• 24:48Speaker 03

  Do you think they starved you, or they just didn't have food?

• 24:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, I want, I want, to everybody that's watching this, okay, if you were a journalist, would you ever in a million years ask that question? I would actually want to know who said yes. Okay, think about the question. Play it one more time, Rob. Play it one more time. Go a little bit back, okay? Okay, right there.

• 25:12Speaker 03

  Do you think they starved you, or they just didn't have food?

• 25:15Patrick Bet-David?

  So who's she talking? So, hey, you're a kid. They interviewed a kid. My parents never, I never had food to eat, and the kid is an anorexic, whatever, 70-pound, 5'8" kid, okay? And the reporter asked, "Do you think they starved you, or they just didn't have any food?" It's a bit of a weird question to ask, right? It's a bit of a weird question to be asking on 60 Minutes, and another one of those reasons why they're losing credibility. Vinnie, your thoughts when you see something like this?

• 25:42Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, that, when I heard this yesterday, I, I didn't believe it, because I was like, no, this has to be other AI or something. But that's, it's one of the most dumbest, tone-deaf questions to ask a torture victim who's been captive from Hamas for over, what, 480 days? And, like, imagine being tortured, starved, and beaten down by terrorists, and you come back. And mind you, she's Jewish herself. How, how are you asking that question? And it's like, either she's pretending to be clueless, or she's making the other, the bad guys look good. Either way, it's just another reminder, I want everybody to know, that's why mainstream media is... On its last leg and dying because of that type of, she's 83 years old. And I know my, dude, my mom's almost 80.

• 26:23Adam Sosnick?

  She's running, she's doing good. But what type of question, how, how insensitive is that to ask someone that literally just survived probably one of the worst experiences that him or anybody else is gonna deal with? And that, and, and she asked him that question.

• 26:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think she's asking a political question? Or maybe, let's be fair to her. Do you think she's asking a question that she really was thinking about? Like, do you think she's asking the question that she really thought maybe, maybe the terrorists were starving and so didn't even have any food to give to you? Because if you're a terrorist, do you think you have a hard time getting access to anything? You're terrorizing. So which means you do what? You're willing to do anything and everything at all costs to get food, money, shelter. You're a terrorist. You're terrorized.

• 27:03Adam Sosnick?

  But did you hear, you heard her? He, before this, he goes, no, no, I'm sorry. He goes, no, they're eating in front of me and teasing me and taunting me.

• 27:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 27:11Adam Sosnick?

  Which is, it's just, it's unbelievable.

• 27:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Thoughts?

• 27:14Tom Ellsworth?

  What I, I did the same thing you just did. I rewound it a couple of times. I wanted to make sure I understood context because I had a, a real reaction at first. I was like, you know, what are you thinking? That was what I was thinking. And I think this shows, in, in my opinion, I think this shows she has a predisposition. You can always tell when you interview somebody or you talk to somebody, you, you ask one or two questions and they give you one or two answers and you're like, okay, I can see which way this person leans. We've all said that in our minds when we've interviewed somebody for a job or you've spoken to somebody you just met. Oh, I see, I see which way this person, I see which way the wind blows with this person. All those, all those phrases that run through our heads.

• 27:53Tom Ellsworth?

  In this, the word that came to my head, I said, wow, I wonder if Leslie Stahl does, doesn't have a predisposition that favors the Palestinian situation and the, and the Hamas and Gaza situation. And so her, she doesn't even realize it, but her questions are coming out showing doubt to the other side because she's got this predisposition. In, in the old West, they used to say, you walk into a court and if the judge is already frowning, forget it. You're guilty. You know what I mean? To be the thing is says when you walked in the court with the drug and he was frowning. Okay, you're done. And it kind of feels like that. And I look at this. She's a career journalist.

• 28:35Tom Ellsworth?

  She's had a distinguished career, regardless of what you think of her individual politics that she's displayed. But it just felt to me, Pat, that she had a predisposition and it's almost just off the top of her head and reflexively coming out. And it was, it was disappointing because she's talking, she's not making a commentary on a new show. She's speaking directly to a victim of torture, imprisonment, who is just praising his personal God that he's out alive.

• 29:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 29:05Adam Sosnick?

  So for some reason, I'm actually not that offended by her question. So let's give it some context. So she's interviewing a hostage who was released.

• 29:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 29:16Adam Sosnick?

  And the tone of the questioning is, is maybe what I would find an issue with. But she's asking that question to the wrong person. So the question of whether Israel is having a blockade of food and goods into Gaza is certainly could be had because they are. Now, why are they doing that? Why would you blockade a country from importing goods? Because oftentimes those goods are terrorist items, right? So it's like, you know, the whole conversation that we're having here in America is building a wall. Why do we want to build a wall? To maybe stop illegal things from coming in the country? Whether it's people, whether it's trafficking, whether it's drugs, whether it's guns.

• 30:02Adam Sosnick?

  We all know how powerful the cartel is in Mexico. You know, people in Mexico were, I think in one week, like 20 politicians, yeah, were no longer running, if you know what I mean. Because they were dead. So, you know, last week, it was something very, very, very unique that happened in Gaza. Do you know what that was? There was a protest against a government in that region from the Palestinians. And who do you think they were protesting against? Hamas. They were protesting against Hamas. So you hear this. Conversation and this slogan, uh, free Palestine and, um,

• 30:40Adam Sosnick?

  go ahead, play it.

• 30:44Adam Sosnick?

  I wonder what happens if they're gonna after this though. Right. So you hear Palestine will be free from the river to the sea. What does that even, what does that look like? What does that mean? Free Palestine. Often when people tell me free Palestine, I say, yes, from Hamas, right? Free the people of Iran from the mullahs and the ayatollahs. Free Lebanon from Hezbollah, free Yemen from the Houthis. Free Iraq from Al Qaeda and ISIS, whatever it may be. It's these terrorist groups that are effectively terrorizing the people. And it's the armies, the democratic elected armies, whether it's Israel, whether it's the US, whether it's even the people of Lebanon, who are like, yeah, we just want to not have terrorism in our country.

• 31:27Adam Sosnick?

  We had a meeting with, um, I won't say his name, someone pretty high up in the Middle East. And Saudi, and they had a major problem. There was a, there's a sect of Islam in Saudi specifically called Wahhabism. And Wahhabism is a very strict, literal definition of Islam. To my Muslim friends out there, if I'm not getting the definition right, forgive me. But MBS, Crown Prince MBS, basically when he took office, he's like, no, no, no. No more of this. I'm the king, the crown prince. I'm running this country because they understand the threat that Islamic extremism and jihadism brings to their own countries.

• 32:11Adam Sosnick?

  Remember we played a clip of, uh, I think it might have been from the UAE. And he was giving an interview about how the West is doomed because they're coddling illegal immigration. And he's like, you know, I'm going to say it in English about what the West doesn't understand and Europe doesn't understand. And she goes, no, no, it's okay. We have subtitles. He goes, no. I'm going to say it in English so you'll get this right. He's like, if you don't stamp out Islamic extremism.

• 32:38Tom Ellsworth?

  They're gonna get you and they're gonna dominate you. And I'm Islamic.

• 32:42Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 32:43Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm Muslim. So is Israel possibly blockading things? Yes, but to this lady's point, interview a politician with that line of questioning, not a literal hostage who probably had no clue what was going on anyway.

• 32:57Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, her predisposition that Tom was talking about, she's the one that tried to fact check Trump. I know, you know where she stands. She's the one that was like, they didn't spy. Come on. And he was like, Leslie, what are you talking about?

• 33:08Tom Ellsworth?

  This is 60 Minutes.

• 33:10Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, it's like, no, no, Leslie, you have your freaking stance and we know who the hell you are. So, I mean, tone deaf and just, it's unbelievable.

• 33:17Tom Ellsworth?

  PBD, why? Why did you want to play this clip? Like, why were you so offended? I'm like, alright, she's a journalist, she's maybe a leftist. What was it to you that was like, nah, this is very inappropriate?

• 33:30Patrick Bet-David?

  A person just came from, you know, being held hostage and you want to ask him a question like that? Like, hey, maybe they didn't have any food. Maybe they didn't have food to give you. Go back to the clip and I'm just purely trying to pay attention to the words she used. Okay? So if you go to the clip and start it from the beginning, Rob, so we can just see it. Yeah. Play it from the beginning.

• 33:52Tom Ellsworth?

  The terrorists became very mean and very cruel.

• 33:56Patrick Bet-David?

  The who? The terrorists. He didn't say the Palestinians. Go back again, Rob. So he says the terrorist, okay?

• 34:02Tom Ellsworth?

  The terrorists became very mean and very cruel.

• 34:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Right. Okay.

• 34:07Tom Ellsworth?

  And violent.

• 34:08Speaker 03

  More so.

• 34:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Much more so. They were beating me and starving me.

• 34:13Speaker 03

  Do you think they starved you or they just didn't have food?

• 34:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at his answer right here. I think they starved me and they would often eat.

• 34:19Patrick Bet-David?

  In front of me.

• 34:20Tom Ellsworth?

  In front of me and not often.

• 34:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you do me a favor, Rob? Okay, so let's play literal. Can you go look up the definition of terrorists? Or to terrorize? To terrorize. Okay? Terrorize definition.

• 34:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Someone who kills innocent people.

• 34:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Create a mentality state of extreme fear and distress in filled with terror, right? Okay. So what is a terrorist willing to use?

• 34:46Patrick Bet-David?

  To get what they want. What limitations do they have?

• 34:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Zero limit, they'll do anything.

• 34:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Guess what? That means a terrorist is going to find their food, the women, anything they want. They're willing to do everything and anything at all costs to hold you hostage, anything.

• 35:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Hmm.

• 35:01Patrick Bet-David?

  If that's the true definition of terrorist, what do you mean? Maybe they don't have food. They're gonna get their food, one way or another.

• 35:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Of course.

• 35:08Patrick Bet-David?

  They're gonna get the girls, one way or another, because they're willing to terrorize. So if he was talking about, if she was talking about Palestinians holding him hostage because they're upset at him for being Jewish or idea for whatever. Okay, cool. Yeah, maybe Palestinians don't have food because of blockade and the food is not coming in. But this is a terrorist she's talking about. A terrorist is gonna get what they want. This is, again, my opinion I'm giving to this here. So I thought it was a very weird question for her to ask. Anyways, let's go to the next story here.

• 35:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Got it.

• 35:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Um, next one I want to get into is tariffs. All right, so the tariffs are starting, folks. And Trump says reciprocal tariffs set to start with all countries. Rob, I think you have a clip on that. And he's talking to Bloomberg. This is, I believe, yesterday that this took place. Do you see the clip? Yep. Let me just read it and I'll come to you, Rob. Okay, go for it. Play this clip if you could.

• 36:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, please. The size of the investment, partly because of tariffs. On April 2nd, the reciprocal tariffs will go into effect. Is it truly reciprocal? Are there some countries that might get a break? Or some sectors that might get a break? Well, I may have a lot of countries breaks, but it's reciprocal. But we might be even nicer than that. You know, we've been very nice to a lot of countries for a long time. But I call it Liberation Day. April 2nd is Liberation Day. But today, as you know, we did something with respect to Venezuela. You heard about that. And that will be quite important. We'll be announcing some additional tariffs over the next few days, having to do with automobiles, cars, and having also to do a little bit with lumber down the road.

• 36:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Lumber and chips. We're gonna get all those chip companies coming back. They're already coming back without even doing it. So it's been very good. But we'll be announcing some other.

• 36:58Patrick Bet-David?

  But for the most part, April 2nd will be a big day. That'll be reciprocal day. And we'll be bringing some of the money back that's been taken from us. Let's be nice by using the word taken. I don't want to use a stronger word because these guys are professional politicians and they don't like to hear those words. I refuse to use the word stolen from us.

• 37:21Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it, by the way.

• 37:22Tom Ellsworth?

  He totally sunned him right there.

• 37:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at Mike Johnson, bro. The Venezuela thing is a 25% he's putting on the oil sanctions and you know, he's targeting Russia's oil heavy company with ex-official Edward Fishman noting Russia's most important sector is under much more modest sanctions and so Moscow has been able to earn from those exports. So if he's serious about trying to put pressure on Russia, it would be by targeting Russian oil. So that's what some of the people opposing that are saying. By the way, I hope it's reciprocal tariffs on everybody and no breaks given. I hope reciprocal, you're tariffing me, I'm gonna tariff you. What do you mean I'm not gonna tariff? You're charging me 18%, I'm charging you 3%? I hope they do 100%

• 38:06Patrick Bet-David?

  of reciprocal on everybody until they lowered their prices on everyone else. And then a question was asked, Rob,

• 38:13Patrick Bet-David?

  if auto companies raise costs due to tariffs, that's a, I think you have that clip as well. Here's another question being asked about what are you gonna do if auto companies raise prices? Go for it, Rob.

• 38:23Speaker 03

  I couldn't care less if they raise prices because people are going to start buying American-made cars. And Jose, I asked the president about his desire to annex Greenland. Mr. Trump's saying there's a good possibility it could be done without military force, but added. I don't take anything off the table.

• 38:39Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. So Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 38:41Adam Sosnick?

  So, just like we did in the last segment, Rob, would you do me a favor and just Google or get the definition of reciprocal or reciprocity, either one?

• 38:55Adam Sosnick?

  So while you're pulling that up, what does it say? Given, felt, or done in return. So it's like, I do for you and you do for me.

• 39:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 39:02Adam Sosnick?

  Or you're gonna charge me, I'm gonna charge you. We said this joke the other day about like, the two Indian guys who were fighting in the car and like, it was like, "You screw me, I screw you. No, screw you, Vinny."

• 39:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 39:14Adam Sosnick?

  No, screw you. No, screw you.

• 39:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 39:15Adam Sosnick?

  I screw you.

• 39:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 39:16Adam Sosnick?

  But if only one person is like, "Screw you, screw you, screw you," you're like, "Okay."

• 39:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 39:21Adam Sosnick?

  Then, like, at what point are you gonna be like, "Dude, what? Stop screwing me." So I think what happened, if I can kind of give sort of a macro approach, you know, they talk about the new world order, or Trump is disrupting the new world order, or the liberal world order. So, after World War II, who was the king of the castle? It was the United States. It wasn't even close. And then shortly after that, Tom, you probably remember this, as the Cold War started, right? Sixties into the seventies, right? And then by 1990, there was no, what?

• 39:54Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm laughing at something else.

• 39:56Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. He's laughing at something else. All right, Tom is...

• 39:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, you're so funny with Yankees glove.

• 40:00Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, gotcha.

• 40:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Go, we'll show it later.

• 40:03Adam Sosnick?

  So, after, after, um, the Cold War ended in 1991, I believe, right? Um, US hegemony, this is a term you've heard before. Great word. No, I've never heard it, but thank you. When we're just, we're numero uno. America first, literally, number one. What's the definition? Leadership and dominance, especially by one country or social group over others. That was the United States, bro. But if you haven't, uh, looked at a GDP map of where US is compared to China these days, it's neck and neck. I think we're still winning. I think we're, you know, after COVID, people are like, "Ah, we can't trust China all that much." You're talking with GDP? You know me. Oh, she knows she. I like that. I like, I try.

• 40:46Adam Sosnick?

  So, do you know what China's GDP was? When, after the Cold War in 1990? Do you know what that was? Let me just give you a little context here. In 1990, China. Number one was the United States. Number two was Japan, number three was Germany, number four was Russia, number five was China. Fast forward. China is now neck and neck with the United States for number one. So we're talking about global domination. And we're talking about being treated fairly. What's my point? United States has done so much for the world. And what have we received in return? I, I ask you. Nothing.

• 41:31Adam Sosnick?

  So. Like China was a nothing rural agrarian country thirty, forty years ago. And now they're an authoritarian dictatorship communist number two GDP in the world. So Japan, enemy, World War Two. Germany, enemy, World War Two. Italy, enemy, World War Two. They all benefit from the United States at this point. So here's the analogy. All these.

• 41:58Patrick Bet-David?

  You still have another analogy? You've been going this entire time, I'm like.

• 42:01Adam Sosnick?

  I think it's a good point.

• 42:02Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's hear your analogy.

• 42:04Adam Sosnick?

  You know, all these countries were basically raised by the United States. We were their daddy. Remember when you asked Andrew Schultz to call you daddy? And he wouldn't do it. All these countries have been calling United States daddy for fifty freaking years. At some point, though, you have to grow up. And what happens? Daddy says, you gotta pay your own bills. And they're like, well, what do you mean? Like, you pay all our military, you, you handle everything.

• 42:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Complicated, complicated topic with this because, you know.

• 42:33Adam Sosnick?

  They're basically freeloaded off America and Trump is trying to change it. That's what's going on.

• 42:37Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but the, the part about, you're right, that, that Trump is trying to change it. But a part of it is on us. You know, a part of it is on the US politicians. A part of it is on Nixon. A, a part of it is on Clinton. A part of it is on what we did in nineteen seventy one. It was called the Pink Pong something. Can you pull up the nineteen seventy one Pink Pong, uh, Pink Pong China? Put type, type in Pink Pong China, US. Yeah, it was called the Pink Pong diplomacy. Go to the Pink Pong diplomacy. Uh, uh, in nineteen seventy one, US's, uh, table tennis team visit to China known as the Pink Pong diplomacy. Marked a significant step toward normalizing relations between the two countries following decades of strained lies. Do you know?

• 43:20Patrick Bet-David?

  1971, 72 was the first time a US president visited China ever.

• 43:26Tom Ellsworth?

  That was Nixon.

• 43:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know Nixon, do you know 1971? When was the previous time US even spoke to China? Do you know how long that break was? For 25 years, we never spoke to China at all. It was a communistic regime, there was zero conversation. Nixon becomes the first president to visit China. He goes there, the pink punk diplomacy. Then trade kinda opens up. Then at that time, just so you know what the minimum wage was in China per hour? At that time, minimum wage in China per hour for labor was like 8 to 20 cents per hour.

• 43:59Tom Ellsworth?

  That was a good deal for China.

• 44:00Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but that's a good deal for a lot of American workers, that the American business owners that were like, dude, let's build this thing over there. Forget 8 cents an hour? Hell, we love China, that's what started saying, right? And then in 2001, when China was allowed to be in the World Trade Organization. Have you seen this clip when they let him in, Rob? Can you find the clip? 2001, when China was allowed to be in the World Trade Organization? And you see how they're celebrating? If it's like, he's sitting to the furthest to the left. If there's a clip, guys can send it from the back if they have it. But anyways, here's what happens, watch this. In 19, in 2001, minimum wage in China is,

• 44:42Patrick Bet-David?

  in 2001, we're at $5.15 per hour. In 2001, in China, it was like 20 cents to 50 cents per hour, depending on different regions. Dude, so you're sitting there, you're, they're sitting there, they're thinking, I'm gonna save 25 times to send the labor? Do you know the moment they did this, 6 million jobs went to China? Like this.

• 45:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, of course.

• 45:02Patrick Bet-David?

  6 million manufacturing jobs went to China. So, when you're looking at this part, we did this.

• 45:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 45:08Patrick Bet-David?

  China simply was the recipient of, they were the beneficiaries of it. Our politicians negotiated this deal.

• 45:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, and also in 1971, what was the biggest significant thing that happened that year? Nixon took us off the gold standard.

• 45:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 45:19Tom Ellsworth?

  So, all this happened is China has been elevated. They've been carving out our manufacturing sector, they've been taking all our jobs. And what have we benefited? All we have benefited.

• 45:30Adam Sosnick?

  is getting cheap shit.

• 45:31Patrick Bet-David?

  See this, but this is the other.

• 45:33Adam Sosnick?

  That's all we get.

• 45:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but this is the other part as well. So, for example, let's just say, uh, uh, uh, you know how the conversations is being had right now about Trump being a third term?

• 45:42Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 45:42Patrick Bet-David?

  You know how they're having those conversations? You know why some people support that? Why do you think some people support the idea of Trump having a third term? Why do you think some people support that?

• 45:52Adam Sosnick?

  Like me, like, me as just like an American, like a reg, average American citizen?

• 45:56Patrick Bet-David?

  So, uh, play this clip, Rob, and I'll, and I'll give you my point here. Go for it.

• 46:00Tom Ellsworth?

  About a third term, about possibly wanting a third term, does that mean you're not planning to leave office on January 20th?

• 46:06Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not looking at that, but I'll tell you, I have had more people ask me to have a third term, which is in a way a fourth term because the other election. The 2020 election was totally rigged. So it's actually, it's sort of a fourth term in a certain way. I just don't want the credit for the second. Because Biden was so bad, he did such a bad job.

• 46:26Patrick Bet-David?

  In Howard Lippman.

• 46:27Tom Ellsworth?

  And I think that's one of the reasons that I'm popular, if you want to know the truth. I think I'm popular because we've done a great job. I think we've had the best almost hundred days of any president. And most people are saying that. And it's an honor. We're bringing back our country. We're respected as a country again, and we're strongly respected. And people are amazed. I was with some very important people today, and they said that they've never seen a turnaround of the country as fast as this. Even look at our border. We have nobody coming in. And you can't come into our country, but you have to come in legally, but we have nobody coming into our country. It's almost shut down. They've, they've never seen anything like it.

• 47:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, okay, so you see that, right? You see that, right? Okay. So, why did it want a third term? Rob, did you play the clip of China, uh, celebrating World Trade Organization?

• 47:22Adam Sosnick?

  No, I have it, though.

• 47:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you, uh, play this clip, because it's, let the audience see this, on how they're celebrating this. When this happened, China knew how big it was. And the rest of the world also knew, because what was being celebrated on this day was slave labor, cheap labor. Go ahead, Rob.

• 47:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Ministerial conference so agrees.

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• 48:41Patrick Bet-David?

  They know what that means. You got one and a half billion people that are willing to work for 20 cents because they're starving? Like Leslie Stahl should ask that question from the people at that time while she was still around, because she's 83 years old. And you know, so she's definitely been on. She was doing interviews with many, many years ago. So here's the technical part. Here's the technical part. Nixon may have negotiated that deal. And Tom, I want to kind of hear. I want you to get, respond to what I'm about to say here. So break you down if there's any leaks in this argument. In my opinion, so let's just say I broker a deal with somebody. And I know who that person is that I brokered the deal with. I'm brokering the deal

• 49:23Patrick Bet-David?

  as if I'm still going to be running and negotiating this 10, 20 years from now. Meaning I can manage it because I brokered that deal. The system, the system that we have as a democracy sometime, like the way we have it in the US is you can broker a deal today. But come four, eight, 12, 16 years from now, another person can come and pull everything out and everything you negotiate is completely gone. So let's just say Trump's negotiating all these deals on tariffs. The reciprocal tariffs. You don't think Russia, China, like literally election interference, you don't think they're sitting around saying, get this motherfucker out of here? You don't think they're saying that? They can't wait for this guy to be out, right?

• 50:08Patrick Bet-David?

  So to me, this is why maybe a third term is becoming a conversation with some folks. Because they trust that if Trump and his team keeps negotiating for eight years, it can be enough time to be able to lock it in and make it a norm. So for someone to come and destroy, it's gonna take a little bit longer. And then that pendulum can switch.

• 50:29Tom Ellsworth?

  You're saying external forces, other countries.

• 50:32Patrick Bet-David?

  But external forces using methods of bribery. And bribery is something that's been, a lot of people are right now talking about bribery and different. But bribery is, CIA is all bribery. MI6 is bribery, Mossad is bribery, Epstein is bribery. You know, what do you call it? Heidi Fleis was bribery. You know the girl Heidi Fleis?

• 50:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, she had the black book.

• 50:52Patrick Bet-David?

  She had the black book, all the people that were hiring prostitutes. This, this concept of bribery, you know how easy it is to buy politicians? I mean, if you watch, I'm watching, what do you call it? The movie about Frank Costello. The story of Frank Costello, he's one of the four guys of the original mob, Lucky Luciano, Frank Costello, Meyer Lansky and Ben Siegel, right? So this movie came out with De Niro, so me and Tico go and watch it. And the whole thing with him and Vito, everything is about bribery. So these guys can be bought right now. They try to do the woman thing, I'm not embarrassed. You know, they try to do Bezos thing with texts with women, they try to bribe him. You know what he did? Do you know the Bezos story with bribery in 2019? Do you know the blackmail story?

• 51:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, it was the national, American media out of Boca Raton. You know, and the guy that led it with the hysterically named David Pecker was attacking Jeff Bezos, saying, I've got pictures you were sending back and forth to Lauren Sanchez.

• 51:45Patrick Bet-David?

  And do you know what he does?

• 51:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Good.

• 51:47Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, show it. I don't give a shit. That's how you fight bribery and blackmail. Show it, go do it. I don't care about it. Go ahead. Yeah, we did. Go ahead, expose me. Expose me. So, but for most politicians. You know, it's a real, so this China thing to me, it's a little bit.

• 52:04Adam Sosnick?

  Let me say one thing before Tom does.

• 52:05Patrick Bet-David?

  The tariff thing.

• 52:06Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, specifically. So, you know, you talked about external forces or other countries reversing deals, but it also happens domestically. Like you saw when Trump took office, every, we're signing this executive order, executive order. We're getting out of the Paris Climate Accords. We're getting out of the Iran nuclear deal. Deal, deal, deal, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone. But you know, when, and then Biden did the same thing when he took over for Trump. But do you know the one deal that Biden kept in effect? The one Trump policy that Biden kept that no one really talks about? All the policies, the trade stuff with China. Biden kept the heat on China. I mean, I don't know if Biden was awake during it, but any of the Trump trade policies Biden kept, why is that?

• 52:50Adam Sosnick?

  So what essentially is happening now is Trump is realigning and redefining and adjusting all the deals that the United States did over the past 50, 75 years. What's the one thing that they say in any financial prospectus? Anytime you're going to get a new asset allocation strategy, what is the one thing they say? Tom, you know this, past performance does not.

• 53:17Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not indicative of future results.

• 53:19Adam Sosnick?

  Not indicator of future results or future performance. So just because it served the United.

• 53:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Video news like, I knew that.

• 53:27Adam Sosnick?

  Just because this served the United States well, maybe 50 years ago, does not mean it's serving us well today. The world has changed so much. China has caught up so much. BRICS is now a thing now. USA is falling behind. It needs to be adjusted.

• 53:42Tom Ellsworth?

  I think what's going on here is something very simple. People are talking about the third term. And by the way, I don't see any leaks in your argument, Pat, and I'm going to provide some nuanced color from this angle. People are talking about a third term for one reason. It takes time to lock this kind of change in. It takes a strong head coach to stay with a new program for a team. It takes a strong leader to push salespeople with a new commission plan or new products. It takes time. And leaders that go, "Oh, everybody's upset 10 minutes after I made a change? I'll go back." That is not leadership. That is not taking you to the future. So, they talk about the third term because it takes time.

• 54:27Tom Ellsworth?

  You want to know? Let me tell you. Do you know Clinton? I once read an article that said, "Welcome to Reagan's fourth term of economic policy." Why? Reagan, Reagan, Bush, Clinton. Clinton didn't go into the control room and start twisting dials on the Reagan economy. And people, you know why? Because for eight years it was working. And then Bush Senior got kind of messed up because pros in the election. And he also raised taxes after he said, "Read my lips, no new taxes." But Clinton went in and said, "Over the eight years, well, guess what? This is working." I know. Because I was with early-stage companies in Silicon Valley. We were worried about a lot of things. When Clinton claimed the power, he said, "Guess what? There's nothing to worry about." You know what?

• 55:12Tom Ellsworth?

  He's not moving it. So, when people talk about the third term, they want, I'd like to see J.D. Vance for eight years. Not because I'm a homer for the Republican Party. But because I believe what's happening here is necessary to establish stability in leadership for the United States for the next several years. We gotta let it lock in. So, and by the way, and if I could jump really quick to a fast point about the automakers. You know what? Facts don't care about your... Feelings. Right. Well, you know what also facts don't care about? They don't care about your headlines sometimes. And this is when, you know, they've got these headlines. "Trump warned US automakers not to raise prices." You know what he was saying to people? He was saying, "I don't care if major automakers raise their prices because they're gonna buy

• 55:57Tom Ellsworth?

  American-made cars, such as the 70% of Mercedes' total manufacturing that happens in Tuscaloosa."

• 56:04Tom Ellsworth?

  That is an American-made car. And guess what? BMW is at war with what? What marquee do they line up number one with? And they're been going at it for 70 years. BMW. If you take a look, they have their model line. You can look at everything. We do a case study on it. But BMW is getting with tariffs and Mercedes not. So Mercedes sits back and says, I'm an American-made car, and you're going to help me with my biggest competitor. Who's quietly happy about it? So what Trump was talking about is, listen, man. He said, the American-made cars are going to win. I don't care if you other people raise your prices.

• 56:38Adam Sosnick?

  But that's a genuine, like, that's the genuine fear. I was thinking about it this morning when I was coming to work. And it's like, everything that he's doing right now, everything, from the border to immigration to these tariffs. If somebody from the other side, like these slick Gavin Newsom's come in, Pat, you don't think they're going to try to reverse all of it? Everything that this guy is building? Everything that they're going to reverse it? You know that. You know it, Tom. So when they do mention the third term, I know what the left is going to say. Oh, we told you he's a dictator, doesn't want to leave. No, no, no. If America is kicking butt, why are we going to go backwards? Whoever's going to come in is literally going to reverse everything.

• 57:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's a challenge with that. Rob, what do you have here with the view?

• 57:14Tom Ellsworth?

  This is, I have some of the liberal reaction to the rumors. Yes.

• 57:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, the concern about the third term is not whether it's going to be Trump. The concern is, remember, the person that did four terms was FDR. And the people that put a stop to it were Republicans. To the history of it, it's Republicans said no to third terms because of after what happened to FDR. So for them to not come and do this, you're opening it up for the next person. And a Democrat comes in. And so that's how, Rob, go to play the clip.

• 57:41Adam Sosnick?

  He also became president right after the Great Depression during World War II. And he died like a month into his fourth term. And they're like, all right, guys.

• 57:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob.

• 57:47Tom Ellsworth?

  And he had an aneurysm and died, and Truman became president.

• 57:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's hear this.

• 57:51Speaker 03

  How insane, stupid, harebrained, and lawless. I think something he says might be. I have learned the lesson of taking him seriously. But what was interesting is, this was a hot topic for all of us. And none of us picked it this morning because we're all on to him. He is the distractor in chief. And so he doesn't want us to keep talking about Signal Gate, which is a real threat to national security. And every day.

• 58:19Tom Ellsworth?

  More details are revealed that show us how incompetent and reckless his national security team is.

• 58:26Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a whole very real thing that's going on with Sigmund.

• 58:29Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 58:30Patrick Bet-David?

  No, keep playing it, Rob, keep playing it.

• 58:31Tom Ellsworth?

  He is tanking the stock market with his imbecilic tariffs. What he's calling Liberation Day should be called Hypertension Day because it's going to give us all a heart attack. He doesn't want us to talk about Andrew, the 30-year-old gay hairdresser Venezuelan, who without any due process, just because he had a tattoo that said "Mom with a crown" and Dad with a crown, was grabbed and disappeared to the hellhole in El Salvador. He doesn't want us to be talking about any of those things?

• 59:03Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it. You can pause it. So the third term to me is, by the way, just think about it this way. If you're a billionaire, okay, and you're running a big company that employs a lot of people, you want cheap labor, let's just say, right? Who benefited the most under Biden of 2.2 million new non-citizens getting social securities? Guess who? Billionaires did. Billionaire class did. Why? Cheap labor. So Trump's lowering cheap labor. If you really think about what's going on versus the Bidens are helping increase more cheap labor for you. Do you understand what I'm saying? The other guys are sitting there saying, well, these guys are coming in willing to work for nothing. Well, a lot of Americans expect to get paid more. Well, send us some more of these illegal immigrants over here and let's give them social

• 59:48Patrick Bet-David?

  security so cheap labor can be available again. They're willing to do the work that Americans are not willing to do. That whole conversation. Biden helped billionaires out way more than Trump is helping them out so far. Billionaires have lost a lot of money since Trump's been president so far, just so you know that. It's a lot of money billionaires have lost.

• 1:00:04Adam Sosnick?

  Trust me, I know.

• 1:00:05Tom Ellsworth?

  And let me tell you.

• 1:00:09Adam Sosnick?

  It is in the streets.

• 1:00:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Gavin Newsom doesn't want to talk about the liberal agricultural, multi, multi, multi-hundred millionaires that are in California that benefit from a migration of very cheap Mexican labor without a lot of safety precautions, out there with pesticides, and the liberals in California know it's happening.

• 1:00:29Patrick Bet-David?

  That is the weirdest thing. But let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story.

• 1:00:34Adam Sosnick?

  I just wanted to understand if you're actually comfortable with a Trump third term?

• 1:00:39Patrick Bet-David?

  It's I'm comfortable with it. I'm not comfortable with the long term. Uh, uh, uh, what do you call it? Standard that others will use as well. That's my only thing. So if the Republican, let's spin this. Let's try to play the spin. I actually want to have this conversation. Like, we're just throwing around third term, third term, as if it's like normal. No, no, but, but if you, the Republican side can say, well, you've had a guy with three or four terms. Why can't we? You had FTO with three or four terms. And you're gonna say, well, the fourth term, one month, he died all the. But you've had them. That's what they created the 22nd amendment to avoid that. I get that. But somebody can come out and say, like Steve Bannon says, we're working on ways to change this right now. We're working. He said it on Cuomo, right on his podcast or News Nation. I think this is it, Rob. We play this with Ron Paul. Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

• 1:01:21Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm a, I'm a firm believer that President Trump, uh, will run and win again in 2028. So, uh, I've already endorsed President Trump. Uh, we, a man like this comes along once every century. If we're lucky, we've got him now. He's on fire and, uh, I'm a huge supporter. Want to see him again in 2028. And obviously anybody who, uh, doesn't like what you say, but judges is at a function of a lack of intelligence, doesn't know anything about you. I don't make that mistake. You're a smart guy. Oh, you know, he's term limited. How do you think he gets another term?

• 1:01:54Adam Sosnick?

  We're working on it. I think we'll have, I think we'll have a couple of alternatives. Let's say that. We'll, we'll see, we'll see what the definition, we'll see what the definition of term limit is.

• 1:02:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't be mysterious. Okay. So I think people are talking about it, whether it'll happen or not. There's a story in here. Not comfortable with that. With, let me, let me read the story to you. So how Trump could be president until 2037 due to constitutional loopholes. Okay? On January 2029, JD Vance, commonly known as could be sworn in as a president after winning the 2020 election, Trump, as his vice president, only to immediately declare, I resign, allowing Trump to assume the presidency for a third term. This scenario exploits a loophole in the 22nd amendment, which states no person shall be elected to the office of the president more than two times, but does not prevent a two, twice elect president from later assuming the role through success.

• 1:02:49Patrick Bet-David?

  A professor Bruce Peabody, co-author of a 1999 Minnesota Law Review article, "The Twice And Future President Explained We Contend That the 22nd Amendment Prescribes Only the Re-Election of an Already Twice-Elected President," making the Trump path to a thirdly term legally feasible if voters support the plan. The strategic hinges, strategy hinges on Vance's loyalty and Trump's popularity, with the crowd cheering Trump, Trump, Trump, and four more years as he takes office again, potentially extending his tenure until 2037, when he'd be 90. Peabody told DailyMail.com that it would be pretty hard for Supreme Court to overturn it, especially with its conservative, textualist bent, noting, "I think it's one of those surprisingly straightforward scenarios." Adam?

• 1:03:33Adam Sosnick?

  Look, I mean, it's amazing to me that this conversation is actually taking a real life of its own. The, the, the people who are constitutionalists are willing to basically bypass what they believe. You hear the people that are like, "God, country, party." And then they're just like, "Yeah, I'd love to see Trump have a third term." It's like, "Do you not, you not believe in the Constitution anymore?" This is not something that you're just, the whole concept of Trump is that he's a, a once-in-a-lifetime generational disruptor. That's great.

• 1:04:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Leader.

• 1:04:10Adam Sosnick?

  But you're just gonna throw out all your morals, your convictions, your principles, your beliefs, your belief in the Constitution because you love this one man? And I voted for him. I want him to do these things that he's doing now. But this is the creeping of a king, of a dictator, an authoritarian. I understand why the left would be freaking out. Now, if they're just doing this to troll the left, keep doing it. But if this is actually a plan that's in the works, at some point, are some people gonna caution themselves and say, "Well, guys, what are we doing here?" Because also, the Republican Party should probably grow a pair of balls and realize that you're gonna need Trump 2.0 and Trump 3.0. Trump can't be your daddy forever. So even-

• 1:04:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Even Vivek was like, look, I'm America first, but America first does not begin and end with Trump. Someone else is going to take the mantle. So if you don't have enough balls and courage to say someone else will have to be that dude and become the next Trump 2.0, then all you are is a party of Trump and then good luck. So I'm rooting for Trump. I think he's doing great. I think the economy is a little uncertain right now, but I think that's needed. But to start having this conversation of like,

• 1:05:22Tom Ellsworth?

  let's elect him for a third time. It's almost like, well, he hasn't even proven that Trump 2.0 has worked. What happens if the economy goes in shambles the next year or two? What if we're acting like he's just godfathered into the role? It's almost like you're spiking the football, DeSean Jackson style on the one yard line before you even the goal, before you even in the end zone. Finish the game and then maybe have this conversation to float this out literally four years before an election is so premature. With that being said, I'm voting for Trump for a third term. Let's go, baby.

• 1:05:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so your, your main argument is that it's too early to have this conversation. Have the conversation on third year, not right now. And that's kind of what Trump was saying, by the way. Says way too early, we're having a conversation. It's not even something I'm thinking about. He says, it's not even on my mind, but a lot of people are talking about it. Trump said that multiple times about this. But the, the, the only thing I'll tell you, the only thing I'll tell you is the following. So we lived in Texas for a while. You lived there with us for about a what, a year, give or take, whatever the time, 10 months. Okay. And we lived there.

• 1:06:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Best year of my life, Pat.

• 1:06:31Patrick Bet-David?

  But we were also there during COVID.

• 1:06:33Tom Ellsworth?

  It's true.

• 1:06:33Patrick Bet-David?

  The whole essential, non-essential. Okay. And the people that have families that have kids, what they did to the kids and how we fell back in schooling and in grades and education of what that did to our kids. Parents are having a hard time forgetting that. And a lot of people who lost people who, whether it was due to taking a COVID vaccine or not taking a COVID vaccine, that's got people very concerned and scared for their lives. They don't want anybody to ever have the control to be able to do that to them. And people have to leave states and not be around their families. So. All of that fear is what causes folks to be so afraid of what can happen with the opposition. Think about it this way. Think about how bad Kamala lost.

• 1:07:18Patrick Bet-David?

  That Rosie O'Donnell is in Ireland doing a TV show and says, I'm still confused. How did he win for the first time all seven battleground states? How is that even possible? How did he do that? So she's speculating that maybe something happened. So maybe it's because Americans were frightened of another Biden during, you know, the next four years. What that's gonna look like. So to me, the only reason why this is even a topic of discussion right now, only reason, is because of what happened last four years. If the last four years wasn't COVID, I don't think this will be a topic of discussion. So main thing, if Trump would have had a second term and moved on, he would have been gone. No issues, nothing. But because of what happened and people are scared. But by the way, look at our audience.

• 1:08:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I love this. Even our audience is 60-40. They're not sold on the idea. Look at that. 5,200 votes, they're like, I don't know about that. Yeah, I don't know about that. Let me see the poll. No, 60-40. And if our audience is saying that, what do you think the general American audience? That's the point. General American audience is probably 80-20. I know. That's, that's, that's the point. But by the way, the most important thing, Rob, don't change anything. Hang on, stay right there. This is, I fix it every time and they correct it. The right way to put it is sideways. Tom always comes and changes it. Okay? Tom always comes and changes it because stay focused on Tom's little bobble head on the side. I'm gonna, don't touch it, don't touch it, don't touch it. Because it's gonna take a second for the audience to see it being adjusted, to see the right way.

• 1:08:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Because whoever made that gift for Tom, we love you. But just so you know, Tom did not appreciate that when that took place. All right, it's gonna take a second to get to it. Eventually it will. Anyways, all right, Rob, fast forward a little bit to see if it got to it or not. Did it? No? All right, well, we'll fast forward. There it is. There's it. Do the proper way. There you go.

• 1:09:09Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go, buddy. Okay. All right, so let's go to the next story here. Let's go to the next story here. Let's go to next story here. So CK Hutchinson will not sign the deal to sell strategic Panama port next week, sources say. Damn. Listen, that was like the deal of the century. CK Hutchinson will not sign the deal next week to sell its Panama Canal ports to BlackRock led group with two sources saying definitively, documents expect by April 2nd per March 4th announcement won't be inked due to obvious reasons amid Beijing's antitrust review to protect fair competition safeguard public interest per China's market regulator on Friday. One source clarified

• 1:09:51Patrick Bet-David?

  the development does not mean the deal has been called off and April 2nd is not a hard deadline as talks persist for the $19 billion plus sale of 43 ports across 23 countries. Beijing's pressure looms large with pro-China outlet Tacong Pu Pao slamming the deal as betrayal of China and perfect cooperation with US contained and reposted by China's Hong Kong Macau Affairs Office while Trump cheered at saying he won it, he wants to take control of the strategic waterway. Tom, thoughts?

• 1:10:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, so if anyone wants to look at the Panama Canal progress of statements, negotiations, and everything else, and Trump said this was really important to trade for the West, specifically the US, as ships come from the Pacific Ocean into the Gulf of America and then come into key ports. He said that. And he said China was putting too much influence in Panama. They're building bridges over the top of it. They're building infrastructure there. They're going to control this. This is not good. And who raises and throws the flag on the field on the deal? China. China does. So what do I think here? Trump is right,

• 1:11:08Tom Ellsworth?

  ladies and gentlemen, and we're seeing the response from China, and this has got to be a diplomatic standoff. The key guy here who has already been down there twice is Marco Rubio. Our Secretary of State on behalf of Trump is going to be right in the middle of this. Well, I think he is in the middle of it. I don't think he's left to make it happen because this is really important strategically and economically for the United States. And it's no surprise that the the pressure came from, what was it, the pro-China outlet, Kung Pao Chicken, what is it, Ta Kung Pao, there it is. Um, was slamming the deal as a betrayal of China and perfect cooperation with US containment. Really?

• 1:11:50Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what they want. They want US containment. That's exactly what they want. And so if you don't think this is important, you're not paying attention. And this this deal needs to get done one way or another.

• 1:12:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 1:12:04Tom Ellsworth?

  The, um, go, Benny, go ahead. Um, let me.

• 1:12:06Adam Sosnick?

  No, I'm good. I'm good.

• 1:12:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, I just go into the next story.

• 1:12:11Adam Sosnick?

  I was still thinking about.

• 1:12:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So funny. Adam's gonna be like, well, listen, the Long Beach, uh, port that they have this, let me just say my thoughts will move. This is not gonna be a long story. So to me, there are a lot of pieces, assets that you want to own. Sometimes you don't reveal them publicly. Sometimes you have to when you're the president. This is one asset that's very, very important for the sake of national security, for the sake of the next pandemic that could happen. For the sake of the next war that's gonna happen, for the sake of if this trade war gets really nasty and China wants to destroy American lives. By going and putting a chokehold in the Panama Canal with the two ports that they have and delaying everything and

• 1:12:55Patrick Bet-David?

  there's there, you you want, whether you're leftist or rightist or right or center or libertarian, could care less about politics. You want US to have control of these two ports. It's important for you to want these two ports to be yours. I hope. They're able to close this off. Typically, if it was a negotiation to be private, there wouldn't be any announcements being made, but this is public. Everyone at this point knows about it, so we'll see what'll take place here. But I hope the deal does get done. And we get these properties. Okay.

• 1:13:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Is he officially not signing the deal? Is that what he said?

• 1:13:30Patrick Bet-David?

  They're just saying it's not. It's it's it says, it doesn't mean it's not gonna get done, but something tells me in the in behind the closed, behind closed doors. The Xi and others are meddling in this deal not getting done.

• 1:13:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Of course.

• 1:13:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:41Tom Ellsworth?

  What kind of shady backdoored?

• 1:13:43Adam Sosnick?

  deals you think are happening with this thing?

• 1:13:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, uh, by the way, let me tell you what would probably happen.

• 1:13:47Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you what probably would happen. You know who this helps? Let's just kind of go logic. The guy that's selling it, CK Hutchison, the guy that had a bad relationship with G because back in the days in 1994, he prevented him from getting a real estate deal and he doesn't forget that. Okay, the owner of CK Hutchison.

• 1:14:03Adam Sosnick?

  You're pulling him up, Rob?

• 1:14:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:05Adam Sosnick?

  CK Hutchison is a company, not a person, right?

• 1:14:07Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but the guy who owns it, Rob, the guy who is making the decisions is a guy who is rivals. He is rivals with G. They don't have a good relationship together. Yeah, but, but here's the part. You know what he should do?

• 1:14:20Adam Sosnick?

  Use it as leverage and have a bidding war.

• 1:14:22Patrick Bet-David?

  He can do that and he can raise that 19 billion to 25 billion if he wanted to get six more billion dollars.

• 1:14:27Adam Sosnick?

  Isn't that in his right to do?

• 1:14:29Patrick Bet-David?

  It is. Unless if he already signed off on the amount he agreed to. You see, China doesn't want to sell this thing if they paid him 300 billion dollars. If I'm China, pay me a trillion. We're not selling it.

• 1:14:42Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Trillion is nothing compared to the amount of control you can have with those two ports. It, it, and it's 43 ports they're selling for the 18.9 billion dollars? Now, all, all the money in the world is not as important as the two ports that's in, uh, uh, that's in Panama right now. Not at all. I'm going to get to the next stories here. All right. So next stories we're going to get to is Rachel Maddow, Rob. Rachel Maddow's pay fuels jealousy of Lawrence O'Donnell. I want this thing to be a three to five minute clip. I don't want it to be longer. I just have one thing to say about this. So Lawrence O'Donnell is pissed. Just about two weeks ago, Rob, you played a clip of him saying this is day 51 and I'm not quite sure I can go another whatever many days. I, I, I don't know what it was, but you played this clip here. Okay?

• 1:15:29Patrick Bet-David?

  So is this the one? Go ahead, Rob. So that's Lawrence, that's Lawrence O'Donnell, right?

• 1:15:32Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:15:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, play the clip. Well, here's the thing. This is day 52. I thought it was day 92. It turns out it's day 52, Rachel, and I'm exhausted at day 52.

• 1:15:47Patrick Bet-David?

  And so I I'm gonna take next week off and I'm telling you that now because I know you don't like it when I just drift away and I don't but just taking next week off then I can then I can come back. Okay, so Lawrence O'Donnell, he says this, right? Yeah, that's a bad picture, right? Good job, Rob. So Rachel Maddow, veteran MSNBC host, 2000 The Rachel Maddow Show, reportedly earning $25 million yearly, has sparked envy at the networks with an insider telling the Sun, Lawrence has been trying to renegotiate his contract and he wants his internal everyone calling the Rachel Maddow did the scrap that's working one day a week and recording a podcast, which will never happen again. Maddow's top-rated show in February and a pledge to host daily during Trump's first

• 1:16:29Patrick Bet-David?

  100 days contrasts with Lawrence O'Donnell's absence from the last ward fueling rumors of his push for a similar golden parachute as MSNBC faces spin-off from NBC. Lawrence O'Donnell, another MSNBC mainstay, announced a break on air, telling Maddow, this is day 52, I'm not gonna take it for, I'm gonna take a week off. So, Rob, can you do me a favor? Let's look at data. Can you go on YouTube and type in Rachel Maddow? Type in Rachel Maddow and go to, uh, filters if you could and just go to views and then go to, uh, this month. Go to views and just go to this month. This month. Go right there. Okay, so can you go to the left?

• 1:17:14Patrick Bet-David?

  So first one is not her, it's Lawrence O'Donnell's show. Second one is her, 4.8 million views. Third one is not her, it's Lawrence. Fourth one, I don't know who that is, okay. Go to fifth one, it's another person. Go to sixth one, another person. So they're just tagging Rachel or Rachel, um, uh, uh, Maddow in the title. Go to Lore, go to Lore, go to Lore, go to Lore. Okay, so why don't we do this? Go to the search, Rob, and go to 12 months, go to this year. Same thing, go all the way to the top of the filters, go all the way to the top, filter will show up. Now, instead of this week, put this month, uh, this year, yeah, there you go. So.

• 1:17:53Adam Sosnick?

  That's all, he's in the top three.

• 1:17:54Patrick Bet-David?

  It's all him. So 10 million views, that's a month ago. Eight and a half million views, that's a month ago. Can you type on it to make sure it's the real thing? Let's see how many comments and likes it gets because that's the way to measure if it's real. Click on it, uh, 31,000 comments, it's real. 175,000 likes, so he got that many views. Go back. So 6.2 million views, it's short. So this is still Rachel Maddow's name we're using. So the biggest Rachel Maddow clip that's her is a short 6.2 million views. That means nothing. Go lower. Uh, so go lower. So that's her. And how many views is that?

• 1:18:27Adam Sosnick?

  4.8.

• 1:18:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So the biggest clip that she's had the last 12 months is a 4.8 million view clip. Now go up there. And just remember this when we're negotiating. If you're an agent representing Lawrence O'Donnell. Type in Lawrence O'Donnell. Type in Lawrence O'Donnell. And Lawrence O'Donnell, boom, and go to filters, do the same exact thing. And go to views. And then let's go to the other filter, put this year, no, this year, yep. To compare the two, look at this. 10 million views, 8.5 million views, 8.5 million views, 7.3 million views. Go to the 4.7 million views, 4.1 million views. He's the face. So guess what? Pay the man his money. Nope. Okay. Pay the man his money. I'm gonna tell you this though. Hang on, let me finish my thought with this here.

• 1:19:12Patrick Bet-David?

  The other part I would tell you is the following. Think about this following thing. On what I'm about to say. How many people? When is the last time you saw us reacting to a Lawrence O'Donnell clip?

• 1:19:25Adam Sosnick?

  I don't remember.

• 1:19:26Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 1:19:27Adam Sosnick?

  I don't remember.

• 1:19:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, one of them we have, which is who? Rachel Maddow. When he's like, it's day 51, Rob, and whatever, whatever.

• 1:19:36Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, we just saw it.

• 1:19:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me how many clips we've responded to with Lawrence O'Donnell last 12 months.

• 1:19:40Adam Sosnick?

  Besides that one?

• 1:19:42Patrick Bet-David?

  What? I, I don't know if we've done it.

• 1:19:44Adam Sosnick?

  I don't even think so.

• 1:19:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you look at your history and see how many Lawrence O'Donnell clips you got?

• 1:19:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, I have two. Uh, the one I have a clip of him talking about Stormy Daniels. So this has to be sometime in early 2024. And then the only other clip I have in our archive, in our archive goes back to the beginning of January 2024 till now. There's two clips. The one we just played of day 52, and then one of him talking about Stormy Daniels. Uh, from May 9th of 2024.

• 1:20:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, can you search Joy Reid to see if Joy Reid got more eyeballs than, can you type in Joy Reid?

• 1:20:21Patrick Bet-David?

  How many more you see?

• 1:20:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, I mean, we have a ton.

• 1:20:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Go to the view, type in the view and see how many of the view comes up.

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• 1:21:13Tom Ellsworth?

  It's not loading. Normally, when I do the view clips, I label it with the host name rather than the show.

• 1:21:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe do Bill Maher. Go to Bill Maher.

• 1:21:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Go all the way down and see how many Bill Maher it is.

• 1:21:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Ugh, a lot.

• 1:21:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so we, so unfortunately, Lawrence doesn't make news for people to react to it. Bill Maher, what do they pay Bill Maher every year?

• 1:21:37Tom Ellsworth?

  For HBO?

• 1:21:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it's 7 million. No, it's, no, it's more than that. I think, what's Bill Maher's salary per year? 10 million a year. So Bill Maher is getting 10 million a year. What do they pay Maddow?

• 1:21:47Tom Ellsworth?

  25 million a year.

• 1:21:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Too much. That is, that is not, guys, she's, she's at best worth 3 to 5 million.

• 1:21:53Tom Ellsworth?

  If that.

• 1:21:54Patrick Bet-David?

  At best 3 to 5 million. Adam, thoughts?

• 1:21:56Adam Sosnick?

  Well, fuck, Lawrence O'Donnell, who we're talking about, congratulations versus Rachel Maddow. This is the definition of DEI versus MEI. You just showed the views on YouTube. That's one component. I think on cable, she does infinitely better. But here's a guy, a straight, white male, I think, Boston, Harvard grad, liberal guy, who's been a newsman, news reporter, journalist for 50 years, who completely is out of touch with the current state of affairs of the Democratic Party. Unless you're female, gay, trans, some sort of DEI type situation.

• 1:22:41Adam Sosnick?

  Party ain't for you, dude. So it doesn't surprise me that someone who has literally earned this stature. This guy's been on MSNBC forever. Is no longer going to be, I guess. Treated as fairly as he should be. So Rachel Maddow, a lesbian, DEI, however you want to call it, that sort of amalgamation. Of course she's going to be the face of the brand. There's no way in hell MSNBC is going to take a straight white man and be like, that's our guy. And I know this is simplistic and I know this is just a basically elementary view of what's going on. But we all see what's been happening. We've seen what's happened to the country. So I'm not shocked what's going on here.

• 1:23:23Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, there were other straight white men over the last few years who were the faces of MSNBC. Where the hell are they now? Brian Williams, gone. Chris Matthews, gone. You know, Joy Reid had to basically submarine the entire network for them to be like, all right, we gotta let this chick go because. I mean, she's just bad. And then they just went and replaced her with Simone Sanders, who's just like somewhat better. So, you know, CNN, CNN's digging their own grave. MSNBC is digging their own grave and Fox is basically eating their lunch every day. I had you a question though. Yeah.

• 1:24:02Adam Sosnick?

  She's not getting the views. What, what would make a network pay someone 25 million and then go, okay, we kind of got to drop the five to make it look good. What in the world, like, I don't get it. I just don't. She's the face of the brand. Of all of MSNBC you think of her. What do they call MSNBC? MSDNC? Yeah. So, I mean, Viddy, do the math. But you have to pay her that much money? Like, question though, if they right now say, listen, we're sorry, we're going, the ship is sinking, it's almost done.

• 1:24:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's, who's the young girl that CNN signed? Is it Krista, is that?

• 1:24:38Adam Sosnick?

  That's CNN, that's CNN.

• 1:24:41Patrick Bet-David?

  What did they pay in Caitlyn Collins?

• 1:24:42Adam Sosnick?

  I want to take three million. Three mil.

• 1:24:45Patrick Bet-David?

  That's, by the way, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. To pay, very honest question. Would you rather pay three million a year to Caitlyn Collins or three million a year to Rachel Maddow?

• 1:24:56Adam Sosnick?

  Three million to Rachel Maddow. Caitlyn Collins.

• 1:24:58Patrick Bet-David?

  You'd rather pay to Rachel Maddow?

• 1:25:01Adam Sosnick?

  She's more of a name and a face. She can carry a brand apparently. If I just had three million dollars to pay a year.

• 1:25:05Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think, Tom? What do I think? I, I would pay.

• 1:25:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Caitlin Collins, the 3 million a year because I think she's got more upside. I think she's malleable. Previously, she demonstrated a little bit of a conservative bent. She was dating somebody. Now she's living in a liberal chair. People say that may not be the real her, but she's got upside.

• 1:25:25Patrick Bet-David?

  She worked on the Tucker Show, if I'm not mistaken, many, many years ago.

• 1:25:27Tom Ellsworth?

  So I have two things to say really quick. Never, never, you know, underestimate the power of the echo chamber, Vinny. In corporate boardrooms, never underestimate the power of that echo chamber to make decisions. And second, never assume, you know, malice if it can be adequately explained by stupidity. And I just think these bad owners make bad decisions. In baseball, there was the Bobby Bonilla contract. There was the Chan Ho Park contract by the drunk, I won't say drunk. The Texas Rangers, everyone wanted to know what happened at this dinner when they came and they gave Chan Ho Park this unbelievable contract, which later was traded around the league as everyone was trying to get rid of it.

• 1:26:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Because he was never a pitcher that was going to pitch up to that level. But it was a frenzy and free agent. They thought they needed another arm. They freaked out. They went to the echo chamber and they signed it. And all of baseball was like, what? Well, guess what? Every other owner in baseball was just one moment away from their own Chan Ho Park or Bobby Bonilla thing. And guess what? MSNBC talked themselves into believing into the echo chamber that woke was the future, that progressive was the future, and they talked themselves into believing that this is what they need to do for Rachel Maddow. I think it's that simple. I'm not picking on anybody. I'm not calling anybody names. And when I say, you know, that can be adequately explained by stupidity, I'm quoting a maxim. Never assume malice is at fault if you can just say, man, maybe they were just dumb that day.

• 1:26:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you know, you know how I look at it? I look at it the following way. Say you're putting an NBA team together, all right? So you're kind of like, well, I'm going to go get a 38-year-old. What do you call it? I'm going to get a 38-year-old center that has known more and I'm going to pay him more than I'm going to pay a guy that's coming out in the NBA that's a second-year center that's doing a good job. I would easily pay the 3 million to Caitlin Collins over Rachel Maddow any day of the week. And I would be moving on, save the money, know the fact that market is about to change in case RFK does what he does. And that alone is going to be. Uh, big enough of a story to see what'll take place there. But that's my, my opinion. I would rather pay her than to pay him. All right, let's go to next story here.

• 1:27:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Next story here, next story here, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa.

• 1:27:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I got two stories I want to go through. Which one do I pick? Pick a good one. Let's go with this one, Rob. Let's go with this one. I think Tom's gonna like this story here. Yankees new torpedo bats create a steer amid 15 homer weekend barrage. Which, by the way, this, this whole thing with the Yankees baseball bat. Tom and Kim have been so furious. Okay? Have been so furious. Kim, you know you've been furious. She's so mad right now. It's been furious. It's not as if the Dodgers haven't already won 162 games. I don't know what their record is already. I think they're already 162. Six and O, thank you. Yeah, six and O. So Yankees new torpedo bats create a steer amid 15.

• 1:28:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yankee shortstop Anthony Volpe showcased the torpedo bat, which fueled a record tying 15 homers. Rob, can you show the baseball bats that they have? And then we'll go to, uh, Dave Portnoy here. Uh, first, including nine on Saturday alone. They hit nine on Saturday. And again, the concept makes so much sense. I know I'm bought in as its barrel sits closer to the hands. Major League Baseball confirmed legality under rule 3.02, which players like Jazz Chisholm, Cody Bellinger, Paul Goldschmidt, and Austin Wells using it, inspired by ex Yankees analyst Aaron Lindhart, now with the Marlins. The bat sparked buzz after YES Network Yankees Entertainment and, uh, announced Michael K noted Volpe's analytics driven switch

• 1:29:15Patrick Bet-David?

  to Victus torpedo models with Bellinger explaining, "The benefit for me is I like the weight distribution. Personally, the weight is closer to my hands. And so I feel as if it's lighter in a way." Manager Aaron Boone downplayed their impact, saying, "I say to you guys all the time, we're trying to win on the margins." While Captain Aaron Judge, who hit three homers on Saturday, without one said, "Uh, what I've done the past couple of seasons speaks for itself." So they're not trying. Tom, I'm gonna go to you. Matter of fact, yeah, let me go to Tom. No, go to Dave Portnoy first, and then we'll go to Tom. Cause I think Tom, Tom's gonna tee this thing off. I'm, I'm sure he's gonna have a lot of fun with this. Here's Dave Portnoy with the Red Sox hat giving us a breakdown. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:29:56Tom Ellsworth?

  All right, real quick update here. I gotta talk about these torpedo bats. Uh, they've taken Major League Baseball by storm. This is, of course, the Yankees hired an MIT physicist to basically take wood from the other part of the bats, like, you know, the handle, the label, and put it in the sweet spot, making the sweet spot bigger. Uh, they did this because Anthony Volpe sucks, and he kept getting jammed and sawed off, and we're like, how do we make him not suck? Let's just make this, this bat called a torpedo bat, where basically you swing and you make contact on the handle, gets sawed off, it's a homerun. So the Yankees have hit like, I think, 13 arm runs, Jazz Chisholm or whatever that guy,

• 1:30:35Tom Ellsworth?

  he's using, he's got like 13 arm runs. Aaron Judge is hitting homeruns, he's saying he's not using the torpedo bat, he is, take a look. Uh, I mean, all the teams are gonna use it. Should it be legal? No. Is it cheating? Yeah, it is. I mean, listen, I, this is coming from a guy who won the Triple Crown at high school, just mashed everywhere it went.

• 1:30:55Adam Sosnick?

  Joya to the belt, the one-two pitch. Hit high in the air, deep to right field. Ivalo going way back, it's out of here. A homerun for David Portnoy, he got all of that one.

• 1:31:06Tom Ellsworth?

  You hit a ball up the label, that means you're not getting your hands through quick enough and you stink. Just taking the bat and making the thing like a cork bat with this hump, this torpedo hump, so you, all you gotta do is make contact and it's a homerun, which the Yankees are doing right now, that defeats the whole, like, that's just making somebody who stinks better. If you get jammed and it's a homerun, that doesn't mean you suddenly got better, that's just some geek from MIT, some physicist ruining 100 years of baseball, or 200 years of baseball. So, listen.

• 1:31:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, your thoughts, your thoughts on this? Not illegal, but what are your thoughts as a diehard Dodger fans that celebrated the Yankees losing game five last year in the sweet to the Dodgers, how do you feel about this? Well, I've never felt that last year's championship was legitimate, because I feel like the Yankees

• 1:31:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Gave it to us. So, um, you know, that just the errors, the humiliation of a proud franchise. It was so hard to be there and watch 50,000 people be let down in such spectacular fashion.

• 1:32:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Trying to get out of this building.

• 1:32:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Buy a team where they had spent millions and millions of dollars on member tickets. I was just, uh, but about the bats, the, um,

• 1:32:22Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, look at the picture to the right. Look at the picture to the right. Look at that one.

• 1:32:28Tom Ellsworth?

  There it is. Oh, Norman, Norman Rockwell. This is great. So, so guess what? The Yankees are first with the next benefit in baseball and they hired a guy to work within the rules.

• 1:32:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:42Tom Ellsworth?

  And got them a benefit. You know what? There you go. That, and that's the way it works. We see rules change and you know what? This is perfectly legal. It's going to get around the league and then the league's got to decide what we're going to do. A couple of years ago, uh, all of the teams, every team, and you can look this up if you could look up Rob's spider tack, like T A C K spider tack. Every team had a chemist that was working on, see spider tack and it was sold to pitchers. So that in cold weather and other things that they could, you know, grip the ball better. It was legal for a while. Right up to the point that the spin rate on the slider was off the charts and batting averages dropped.

• 1:33:26Tom Ellsworth?

  And they're like, okay, we can't, we're not going to deal with a three to one ballgame. We're just not going to do that. And there's all the memes about what spider tack was. So baseball changed the rules. This is, look, you can't use spider tack. Well, guess what? The NFL changed the rules. They took away hard pass interference. They wanted more scoring.

• 1:33:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:45Tom Ellsworth?

  They didn't want, and they also didn't want wide receivers to be act, a defenseless receiver rule was put in. You can't, you can't take out a defensive receiver if you're off the ground, you know, go into the air to catch it and your arms are up. You can't just, as they used to say, cut them in half by putting your shoulders.

• 1:34:00Adam Sosnick?

  Right on his ribs while he's in midair. Football changed the rules because they said, let's protect the receivers. Then everyone in football got upset because they, they claimed that they turned the quarterbacks into women. Just give them a skirt. You're not allowed to hit a quarterback. Just give them a skirt. They were, they were making those kind of insensitive jokes. So rules come back and forth in sports all the time. The Yankees, hats off to them. They are playing within the rules and have designed a bat which is exactly inside the rules. Now the question is like spider tack, which was in the rules at some point, you know, you, you could have rosin, you could do things. And then they were like, no, no, no, no, no. This is going beyond the rosin permission and things like that. So now the question is, what does the league do about the bats when the bats circulate around everybody?

• 1:34:45Adam Sosnick?

  And maybe we see the result. Well, there's a bunch of people. So the, the Reds are using it. Mike, my, my friend, Mike just messaged me. Baltimore Orioles are using them. Cincinnati Reds, Chicago Cubs, Minnesota Twins, Tampa Bay Rays. A lot of people are using them. Have they ordered them or they're using them? No, I think they're using them. Well, there's one guy, hold on one second. This guy yesterday used it. I'm sorry, he went four for five, Tommy, this weekend. De La Cruz, Ellie De La Cruz from the Cincinnati Reds, used the bat for the first time in the 14-3 win over Texas Rangers on Monday. He went four for five with two home runs and seven RBIs in the blowout. So that was yesterday. So yeah, they got his hands on a bat and yesterday it worked. Yeah, and it worked. And again, it's not illegal. It's not illegal. Okay. So I'm, and listen, and I get it.

• 1:35:29Adam Sosnick?

  Dave Portnoy, he's a Boston fan. If your team is in last place and has been doing abysmal for the past few years, you're going to talk trash. It's not illegal. If it was illegal, like, listen, like with the Houston Astros, cheat, like literally got caught cheating. What, what happened to all the players? Any of them get banned or anything crazy happen? No, nothing happened. Nobody was stripped. They didn't, do they even get an ass? No, no, no. One guy they came down on, Jeffrey Lunau, they came down on him hard, but nobody else. Yeah, but which is ridiculous because if you remember that homerun, do you remember the homerun by Altuve? He's rounding the bases and they're about to rip his clothes off. Don't touch my jersey. He's like, no, I wonder what he had under there. We'll never know. He was wearing, he was wearing the buzzer.

• 1:36:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, you know Max Muncy ordered a baseball bat, the torpedo bat.

• 1:36:12Tom Ellsworth?

  I believe that I believe everyone's going to order and and by the way, Max is a lefty at Dodger Stadium. If it works for him, that's that's gonna help.

• 1:36:22Adam Sosnick?

  But that was false. That was not Dave Portnoy said that Aaron Judge is using it. No, he's not. That's he's that's fake news. Aaron Judge is using the same bat that he always uses and he just crushes the ball. I don't like Aaron Judge doesn't need to adjust. He hit the foot. Last year he didn't use it. Who was number one with home runs?

• 1:36:40Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. Aaron Judge is not using a torpedo.

• 1:36:42Adam Sosnick?

  He's not using it. And who was who broke the record last year for it was a Maris. Yeah, he freaking he's a killer.

• 1:36:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 1:36:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Neither is Shohei Ohtani.

• 1:36:50Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly. They don't need to change.

• 1:36:52Tom Ellsworth?

  And they were both the reigning MVPs, American and national.

• 1:36:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, we'll see if Shohei can stay focused. But go ahead, Adam. Well, you know, there's a term called inside baseball. That was sort of this conversation. We were getting really in the nitty gritty. I'm sure our audience loves all the inside cork talk we're talking about over there, but I have a challenge for baseball because with the exception of going with PBD to Yankees games, I live in Miami and the Marlins suck. And the chances of me getting to watch. What's that? They need new ownership. They need a new everything. Marlins need to sell. All right, guys. Note to selling. The um.

• 1:37:30Tom Ellsworth?

  This is a Latin market. New ownership and a stadium. You will watch what happens in South Florida baseball. You have no idea.

• 1:37:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Tom, bienvenido a Miami. Miami go. So, baseball. It's pretty bad. He went after you. I went after them. Okay. Baseball, I'm gonna say it, guys. I'm sorry. I know you love baseball. He called me a taco. Such a boring sport to watch on TV. If you can get to a game, like a Yankees game, amazing.

• 1:37:53Adam Sosnick?

  Yankees, maybe they're Yankees.

• 1:37:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Amazing. The genuine Yankees. But I fully advocate baseball, bringing back steroids. Use these cork bats, these torpedo bats. You know, in hockey, you can have fights. Bro, I want to see baseball fights. I want dugouts to clear. I want, you know how like the umpires, the coaches will bump the umpire, punch the umpire. Like, let's get this sport going. What is that guy with the yellow outfit?

• 1:38:18Tom Ellsworth?

  There have been three of them.

• 1:38:19Adam Sosnick?

  This year, thanks for paying attention. We want, we want more of them. The season hasn't even started yet. We want cheerleaders. Take a note from the NFL. You know, why do you think the NFL has cheerleaders? Because. Not all teams do. It just makes the game better, straight up. So stop bumping chests. Let's start punching each other. Let's make baseball great again.

• 1:38:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, we will see. We will see what's gonna happen. The problem they're gonna have is the following. If the Dodgers can keep their players from staying focused with Shohei Otani now dating Lindsay Lohan. That's gonna be a problem for them.

• 1:38:51Adam Sosnick?

  What? That's gonna be a problem for them. Otani's dating Lindsay Lohan?

• 1:38:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Two weeks. For two weeks, him and Lindsay Lohan been going out and I don't, I don't know, I don't know how much the credibility.

• 1:39:01Adam Sosnick?

  Lindsay Lohan?

• 1:39:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Him and Lindsay Lohan have been dating for two weeks, apparently. They met in LA. It's a thing.

• 1:39:08Adam Sosnick?

  That's not, you know what that's gonna do to the, to his batting and oh my god.

• 1:39:12Patrick Bet-David?

  It is what it is. I mean, listen, you're in LA. You're gonna, like Devin Booker was dating the Kardashian. You know, you got, Dennis Rodman was with Madonna and Carmen Electra. Shohei Otani is dating Lindsay Lohan.

• 1:39:21Adam Sosnick?

  And it doesn't help that whole gambling thing.

• 1:39:23Patrick Bet-David?

  A part of it, a part of it that could be.

• 1:39:25Adam Sosnick?

  She has a drug problem.

• 1:39:26Patrick Bet-David?

  She used to have a drug problem. She's better now.

• 1:39:29Adam Sosnick?

  No, she used to have it, but he's, he, his, his, his boy that's doing the gambling thing. Did you hear the new thing that's gonna be coming out? I was like, it's something new's gonna come out.

• 1:39:37Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, can you imagine the story? You go, I'm just visualizing, going to a game. He's, he's with Lindsay and if she has had a change.

• 1:39:46Adam Sosnick?

  And you know that Britney Spears actually messaged and was like, hey, stay away from him? Well, like if you're a celebrity like this.

• 1:39:51Tom Ellsworth?

  He is not dating, as they say, Renzy Rohan.

• 1:39:55Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, no.

• 1:39:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Two weeks.

• 1:39:56Adam Sosnick?

  There was a rumor, Tom, I mean, Rob, you're right. Those, those.

• 1:40:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Two weeks.

• 1:40:00Adam Sosnick?

  That was Tom's racism. No, but no, because, by the way, because somebody messaged Pat. It's not like it's in the news.

• 1:40:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Picture though. I did see the picture of Lindsay Lohan. Can you put up, Rob?

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  Tom's like, what the hell is going on? Oh, we had, it's April Fools, Tom. Yeah, guys, it's April Fools. We had to, Tom, Tom looked at me like. He is not dating Lindsay Lohan. He's looking at his phone, kids are texting. Lindsay Lohan. No, but by Tom, what if he was dating Lindsay Lohan? What's wrong with that? What's wrong with that? There's nothing wrong with that. He's a focused guy. They would go to casinos together. There would be no issues. No issues.

• 1:41:25Tom Ellsworth?

  In the annals of, of sports history, there had been athletes that had ill-advised relationships with celebrities.

• 1:41:32Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. What's wrong with that? Don't judge him if he does.

• 1:41:35Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, by the way, Matt Kemp had his worst year after he was, he lost the MVP to, I believe, Ryan Braun, who had actually juiced and influenced a FedEx career. Anyway, it was a big controversy. And the next year, Matt was completely distracted because he was making the party circuit in LA and he was dating Rihanna. True story. So Matt Kemp, who could have been MVP, should have been MVP the next year, was dating Rihanna. And he was completely distracted, completely everything.

• 1:42:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I think he'll get it together. I think Shohei can handle it. I think Shohei with Lindsay is going to be fine. And they'll eventually figure things out. Who knows how long it's going to last? I mean, Taylor Swift. But anyways, let's go to the next story here. So, Canada. Trump holds extremely productive call with Canadian Prime Minister. We agree on many things. Okay? We agree on many things. Trump announced on Truth Social an extremely productive call with Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, writing, "I just finished speaking with Prime Minister Mark Carney of Canada. It was extremely productive call. We agree on many things and we'll be on, uh, we'll be meeting immediately after Canada's upcoming election to work on elements of politics, business and all the other factors." This will end up being great for both the US and Canada that this marked their first

• 1:42:51Patrick Bet-David?

  conversation following Carney's rise to liberal leadership with 86% of the vote after Justin Trudeau stepped down. Trump, known for his hardline trade stance, signaled collaboration despite tension over tariffs and dairy disputes. Mark Carney, 60, Canada's new prime minister, has declared on Thursday in Ottawa, "The old relationship we had with the US, based on deepening integration of our economics and tight securing and military cooperation is over." After meeting provincial premier, speaking to reporters, he added, "The time will come for a broad renegotiation of our security and trade relationships, signaling a shift from the past US-Canada ties." So, watch this. Trump is being complimentary about Carney, okay? Trump is being complimentary

• 1:43:36Patrick Bet-David?

  about Carney. And what did he say about Pierre a couple of weeks ago, Rob? You have the clip? If you can pull up the clip of what Trump said about Pierre. Trump, Pierre, and do you have it, Rob, or no? I can find it. Yeah, if you type in Trump, Pierre, there, he was being asked about it, and this was Trump's, Pierre's opportunity to get Trump to go on there. Anyways, oh, right there, 24-second one, I think that's the one. Bottom left, bottom left, right there. I think this is the one. Is this the one, Rob? ...before I got involved and totally changed the election, which I don't care about. Probably it's our advantage, actually. But the Conservatives was leading against,

• 1:44:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I call him Governor Trudeau, the Conservative was leading by 35 points. It's him, Pierre. You know, so I don't know about that. I think Canada is a place like a lot of other places. This isn't a clip. I'm gonna go to Tom, and Tom, Rob, you look for it if you can, but he was not complimentary about Pierre because Pierre wasn't complimentary about Trump, and that created a rift. Tom, what are your thoughts on this, what he said about Carney?

• 1:44:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, two things. There's the art of the deal going on here, and you can see President Trump does it all the time. Push really hard on a position. Pin, pin them, but then back off and give them an opportunity to move to a spot you want them to move. And that's what he just did here. He, the other side now, and he's also hedging.

• 1:45:04Tom Ellsworth?

  He's hedging the bet because this side has been in a statistical tie over the last couple of weeks and now is slightly ahead in the polling. The conservatives are slightly behind because Pierre Poliver is, has been really kind of fumbling the lead and opportunity he had to the point that he got one of the fellow conservatives kind of to do an RFK move to join him. So what Trump is doing here, I think he's pushing hard, but then he's giving a compliment and giving them an opportunity to move, to move to a spot they want. And also, Pat, take a look at what the Prime Minister said.

• 1:45:45Tom Ellsworth?

  What was the first word and the second word of what he said, Pat? The time will come for a broad renegotiation of our first word, security relationship, and second word, trade relationship, which is what Pat has been talking about, Mexico and Canada for a long time. They only spend this much of their GDP because they know we are the real protection power and what we spend on GDP protects them. And it's interesting, isn't it?

• 1:46:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you, I agree. Do you think a negotiation was done there? Do you think Trump said, if you do this, if you do that, if you do this, I'll be complimentary? And do you think Carney asked indirect? Because, Tom, if you read Trump's Truth Social, if you go back to it, that's an endorsement. This is an endorsement. Let me explain to you why. The key words in this Truth Social to making an endorsement is what? Watch what it says, and we will be meeting immediately after what? Canada's upcoming election.

• 1:46:42Tom Ellsworth?

  The snap election.

• 1:46:43Patrick Bet-David?

  That's an endorsement. Meaning, he's going to win. Trump is saying Carney's gonna win.

• 1:46:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow, that's correct.

• 1:46:50Patrick Bet-David?

  So Trump is helping a liberal in Canada over a Pierre because of Pierre's arrogance.

• 1:46:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow, that's correct.

• 1:46:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Think about that. By the way, do you remember when I had somebody on the podcast sitting over here when I said, why did you not visit Mar-a-Lago to just have a conversation with the President? I don't need to have that conversation. Why would I go to him? He helped you become a governor. Why don't you have a conversation with him? I don't need to have the conversation with him. All Pierre had to do was come to Mar-a-Lago, go to the White House, have a conversation with the guy. Now, listen, Canada would have said, if he would have been seen with Trump, they hate him and Trump, they hate him, all this other stuff, right?

• 1:47:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this here, Canadian Conservatives, here's some unsolicited advice to you. Stop being so easy on your candidates. Pierre Poliev, Poliev, stop assuming they're automatically going to win. Stop being so over cautious and scared of what liberal media in Canada will do to your candidates. That's the old Covid era mindset. Rob, go a little lower if you could, I can't read the rest. Stop walking on eggshells trying to run a campaign in the old school consultant driven, wear this tie, get this haircut, wear that shirt BS. Grow some balls, Trump worked his ass off. He didn't have all conservative libertarians or independents till the last 90 days, but he went and earned every single one of their votes. He went on 20 plus podcast appearances, not including a ton of campaign and media stops. He did this at the age of 78. Pierre is 45 years old campaigning like he's Biden's age.

• 1:48:09Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a great speaker, he's very talented, but damn, he comes across lazy, pompous and entitled. I initially wanted him to, wanted to help him, but at this point, my concern is more about the people whom I love in Canada, to get a candidate that will fight for them. I had Max on, but for whatever reason, Canada's treating him the way US did with RFK. I respect the hell out of his willingness to talk. Max said something about them dropping to go be part of a Pierre, whether that is an April full stunt or not, I don't know, we'll see as the day goes out. I don't know if I like that joke either, because it undermines his campaign. If it's a joke, I'm not a fan of it. This may be your last chance at strengthening the relationship with US or ship, or the ship may sail. Here's a list of people I would beg for your candidate to go on.

• 1:48:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Tucker Lex, Ryan Morgan, Cuomo, Theo Folsen, Candace Glenn Beck, Breakfast Club, Ben Shapiro, Kirk, Walsh, Ruben Brand, Outkick Phil, Schultz, and of course, Joe Rogan. Beg if you must, maybe even ask if Musk would consider doing a Twitter space with him. Long shot, but you must ask. Most of the names above won't be interested because they're all busy with a ton of guests who want to get on, but hold Pierre's foot to the fire. Stop being so easy on him. Tag him and his entire campaign team on this thread. It drives me crazy seeing all the ask kissing as if he's already won. Push him, challenge him. The future of Canada is predicated on you holding him accountable. I hear some Canadians say, why should Pierre go on podcasts in the US? Let's say...

• 1:49:27Patrick Bet-David?

  They say it's a waste of time. What they don't understand is that these podcasts cut clips that will be shared on all social media platforms, X, TikTok, Insta, Facebook, YouTube. That's how Trump dominated the news and social media cycle. Time is running out. You know what they're gonna do about it? Nothing. And Carney's gonna win.

• 1:49:43Tom Ellsworth?

  And to answer your question, I do, I do believe a deal is in the background. Cause remember, Trump wants a economic and trade deal. He doesn't want a public policy deal. Let Canada handle their own public policy if they want to vote liberal or conservative. But Trump wants his economic trade deal. And I, I believe the answer to what you asked me, Pat, is yes. A framework of a deal was put in place. Okay, good. We're good here. I'll tell you what, I'm gonna go say something. As long as I have your word, I'm gonna go say something. And that's it.

• 1:50:17Adam Sosnick?

  Canada, um, to my, I, you know, I was out at dinner last night. This guy came up to me and he goes, hey, man, you're, you're Adam from the PBD podcast, right? I go, yeah. He goes, I freaking hate you. No, I'm just kidding. He goes, uh, I really love what you guys are doing, especially with the Canada stuff. I said, oh yeah, why is that? He goes, because there's a lot of us in Canada that support you. Like on my neck, Vinny, how many Canadians reach out? They're like, dude, how can I get out of here? Yeah, no, just, yes, I had a phone call with somebody yesterday. Here's the problem though. Canada is incredibly progressive. I think they're like a top five, at least top 10, super progressive country in the world. I think the most progressive

• 1:51:00Adam Sosnick?

  countries in the world, progressive are sort of the Scandinavian places, Norway, Switzerland, Sweden, that kind of a thing. And then you have Canada. And then, you know, in America, we're seeing the rise of wokeness and DEI and the progressives. If, if you look at like the world index, USA is like top 25 as far as like progressive. Canada is ridiculously progressive. Think about how bad Justin Trudeau had to be for them to be like, please leave. They wanted this guy. They wanted this male feminist in power. So for a conservative to win in Canada, it's so hard to do. Pierre Poliev, I think, two months ago was at 95%.

• 1:51:43Adam Sosnick?

  That's how bad Trudeau is. Soon as they replace Trudeau, look at the crisscross of likelihood of who will become the next Prime Minister of Canada. You talked about this with Maxime, right? But Canada is gonna get what they pay for. And they're going left-er and left-er and left-er. And at this point, we might have to build a wall between Canada, the United States, because once these leftists take over, it's gonna get real ugly.

• 1:52:09Patrick Bet-David?

  But by the way, though, I mean, this has shown what? This has shown Pierre was at 93% on January 1st. Now he's at 35% and going lower. Okay, it's not like he's making any kind of progress. And Carney's going higher. FYI, to the conservatives, independents, and libertarians that are upset when, you know, I talk about what I say with Pierre, you know, we talk about the stuff with Canada. Guess what? This is on your candidate. Don't be upset at Americans. He did this. He had the biggest lead. He should have been it. Not anybody else. Stop putting your frustration on, you know, I can't believe you're saying this. By the way, can you go back to that tweet I posted and go to the comment section? Can you go to the comment section about Canada? Yeah, if you can go right there.

• 1:52:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Just go lower and see how people are reacting. Cat, Canada, stop meddling. You have no idea how Canada works. I responded, get off X if it bothers you. Yes. Or hold your candidates fired to the feet. You're capable of doing that. The next person says, Americans don't understand Canada. Pierre would still be far ahead if Trump hadn't played this tariff game. This fools, the fools we have crawl back into the abuse of government out of fear. Pierre will be like Trump because of media. Here, hold them. Unfortunately, now most, Rob, can you press on show more? Now more Canadians have a negative opinion about the US. If Pierre won on American Right Wing Podcast, I guarantee you will not help. Carney hasn't even gone on popular liberal shows in America since he's won the leadership. I thought you would be smart enough to put this together. Keep repeating this nonsense narrative.

• 1:53:40Patrick Bet-David?

  How has it worked for you? For the last few years fearing the leftist mainstream media. They've accomplished their mission by scaring the hell out of you and your candidates to not speak to conservatives. Go a little lower. See what people are saying here. People back and forth, back this other one. I agree completely. By why he ain't coming on yours. His campaign was extremely. Rob, what did Tony tell us about how his campaign was with, uh, with us?

• 1:54:01Adam Sosnick?

  Non-responsive.

• 1:54:02Patrick Bet-David?

  The first two times, one time a lady hung up on him.

• 1:54:06Adam Sosnick?

  And he called back, right?

• 1:54:07Patrick Bet-David?

  And they're not picking up and it's like, oh, it was a, yeah, we were busy. Why did you hang up on our Booker? His campaign team immediately extremely distraught to a burglar and it happened on two separate occasions. The other two celebrities have carried themselves in the same way that he did. Everybody else would deal with is easy. It all comes from the top. This has to change for him to have a fighting chance. Arrogant, pompous, lazy, doesn't work no matter where you go. Certain principles are evergreen. No matter where you live, whether it's US, Canada, Russia, it doesn't matter where you live. You have to go earn that vote. And unfortunately, this is gonna be. The biggest, most humiliating loss a politician had with a massively. This is worse than the Patriots against the Falcons.

• 1:54:49Patrick Bet-David?

  This is worse than the Red Sox against the Yankees comeback 2000 and what year was that, Tom? The Yankees, Red Sox, oh four. This is, if Pierre loses, this is the worst. Loss of our generation, a famous politician has had. Maybe the most embarrassing because the man simply doesn't want to work and go earn the vote. And he's doing it the same old fashioned way. The guy's been in politics since 20, since he was 25 years old. And, uh, seems like a good guy, seems like a nice guy, but oh my God, diplomacy is not something of a strength. Uh, uh, for him to be able to have the relationship and walk through it and be able to keep that momentum going. Unfortunately, he helped conservatives have Mark Carney here very soon.

• 1:55:34Adam Sosnick?

  Also Trump.

• 1:55:35Patrick Bet-David?

  And when is it coming up, by the way? When is the election for Canada?

• 1:55:37Adam Sosnick?

  Are they doing a snap? In May.

• 1:55:39Patrick Bet-David?

  When it, no, I think it's the 29th of April. I may be wrong.

• 1:55:42Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, it's a snap.

• 1:55:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Election, he was permitted April 28th. April 28th. Correctamundo. And you know who's the campaign manager Mark Arnie? You know who's the number one campaign manager Mark Arnie? Pierre Poliev.

• 1:55:53Adam Sosnick?

  Oh no.

• 1:55:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:55:54Adam Sosnick?

  Also Trump. Well, Trump has turned him into sort of a martyr and a hero. Because this, their whole party, not that I'm the expert on Canadian politics. You saw the numbers, this party was going nowhere. I mean, they were the party of Justin Trudeau, his approval ratings were in the basement. And then Trump started doing a trade war with Canada. And like, you know how you almost went to Boston because they'll be like, oh, what's up? You want to go? Like, you want to have, people get fired up. And they use Trump as a symbol for what's going to happen. And I'll just repeat, Canada is super, super progressive. So if they have an enemy and that enemy is Trump, it rallies the troops.

• 1:56:37Patrick Bet-David?

  What's your point, though? Your point is what?

• 1:56:41Patrick Bet-David?

  That what?

• 1:56:42Adam Sosnick?

  That Trump motivated Canadians to root for Trump.

• 1:56:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you a question. What is a more socialist country? Canada or Argentina?

• 1:56:52Adam Sosnick?

  Socialist is different than progressive, in my opinion. So socialist, probably Argentina. Progressive, Canada.

• 1:57:01Patrick Bet-David?

  What is harder to flip?

• 1:57:05Patrick Bet-David?

  What is harder to flip?

• 1:57:06Adam Sosnick?

  Well, one is more, one is more economic, I feel.

• 1:57:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 1:57:08Adam Sosnick?

  And then one is more ideas.

• 1:57:11Patrick Bet-David?

  What is harder to flip?

• 1:57:12Adam Sosnick?

  Culture.

• 1:57:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Think about what is harder to flip. Okay, and think about to, to be able to live in Argentina. And you're a socialist country. And you're able to flip that. And have a good relationship with Trump. Think about Bukele. You're living in a country where crime is where it's at with MS-13. And you're going straight against them. And you flip that. What is harder to do? Think about you're in Canada. Which, you're a conservative. You could have easily been able to make a lot of noise and gone out there and campaigned. You were served on a silver platter. Canada, the last five years, how ugly was Canada with progressive policies that they came out?

• 1:57:56Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, but ugly in your opinion. Canada actually loves that stuff.

• 1:58:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, not everybody, though. Not everybody.

• 1:58:02Adam Sosnick?

  Of course, not everybody, because there's two sides to the coin.

• 1:58:04Patrick Bet-David?

  But.

• 1:58:05Adam Sosnick?

  But a lot of people voted for that nonsense.

• 1:58:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:08Adam Sosnick?

  That's why they're progressive.

• 1:58:09Patrick Bet-David?

  A lot of people also voted for Biden for that nonsense. Yeah. And Canada may be more progressive than.

• 1:58:15Adam Sosnick?

  Not maybe, they definitely are.

• 1:58:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Canada may be more progressive than US is.

• 1:58:18Adam Sosnick?

  You want to say maybe? I'm gonna say definitely.

• 1:58:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Canada may be more progressive than US is. Maybe.

• 1:58:23Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, look at the rankings. I'm not like I'm making this up.

• 1:58:25Patrick Bet-David?

  For the third time, Canada may be more progressive than US may be. That may be correct. However, why are so many people here when we're going to, you know, different places? You say, I'm here from Canada. What happened? I left. Why'd you leave? Because of Trudeau. What happened under Trudeau? This? What happened with the truckers? What happened with all these people that were protesting? What happened with all these people around the country? You don't think everybody was paying attention? What? Why is? If you're saying the progressives are against it, why was Trudeau's approval rating the lowest ever? Who? Who did that? Progressives? You don't think a lot of that were progressive? But you don't think progressives, because you just said progressives.

• 1:59:06Adam Sosnick?

  You could just find the rankings, Rob, if you just.

• 1:59:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, if you let me finish.

• 1:59:09Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Progressives, if progressives are that supportive of progressive policies, had Canada ever had somebody that was more progressive than Trudeau? You just said Canada's more progressive.

• 1:59:21Adam Sosnick?

  Maybe his father.

• 1:59:22Patrick Bet-David?

  But you just said he was more progressive, so if he's.

• 1:59:24Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, you think I know this like off the top of my head? It's ChatGPT ranking progressive countries.

• 1:59:30Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not what I'm asking you.

• 1:59:31Adam Sosnick?

  Rob, you have ChatGPT, buddy.

• 1:59:32Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're saying.

• 1:59:33Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:34Patrick Bet-David?

  That Canada is more progressive.

• 1:59:35Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:59:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Justin is a very progressive candidate.

• 1:59:38Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:59:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Why was his approval rating so low?

• 1:59:41Adam Sosnick?

  Because he was a very bad candidate. Very bad.

• 1:59:43Patrick Bet-David?

  But he's very progressive.

• 1:59:45Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think some progressives flipped on him, just like they flipped on Biden and Kamala? And some of the guys are like, I'm out? Do you think some progressives?

• 1:59:52Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, what's your point? Because are you saying that? Are you saying that it's all Pierre Poliev?

• 1:59:57Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's not what I'm saying. You're not. You're not hearing what I'm saying.

• 2:00:00Adam Sosnick?

  Look, here's the rankings from the most progressive countries. Like I said, the Scandinavian countries. Where's Canada?

• 2:00:08Tom Ellsworth?

  10.

• 2:00:09Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, you can scroll down, Rob. Thanks, buddy. Now, put the top 50.

• 2:00:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me, let me make the.

• 2:00:15Adam Sosnick?

  The United States is like number 30.

• 2:00:16Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me make the point.

• 2:00:17Adam Sosnick?

  They're way more progressive there.

• 2:00:18Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're going to say somebody is very progressive, if you're going to say that, that Canada's more progressive, and you have a very progressive candidate,

• 2:00:26Adam Sosnick?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:00:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Why are you not happy about him?

• 2:00:29Adam Sosnick?

  Who?

• 2:00:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Progressives. So progressives are not happy about him?

• 2:00:33Adam Sosnick?

  They were sick of the guy. He was like an old beard. Just like, get this guy out of here, like, they were done, they were done, change, it's either change or hope in an election.

• 2:00:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Between Carney.

• 2:00:42Adam Sosnick?

  They wanted Trudeau out of there.

• 2:00:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Between Carney and Trudeau, who's more progressive?

• 2:00:49Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know. I think they're both equally progressive.

• 2:00:52Patrick Bet-David?

  What I'm saying to you is if you're making.

• 2:00:53Adam Sosnick?

  The fact that Justin Trudeau cries on camera, calls himself a male feminist, I'm gonna lean that guy's direction.

• 2:00:58Patrick Bet-David?

  The argument that he is more progressive, they had a more progressive candidate, why do they not like him?

• 2:01:04Adam Sosnick?

  Cause they're sick of him.

• 2:01:06Patrick Bet-David?

  And why was, why was, no, no, go, go to the poly market, Rob. Go to, cause don't take this off the conservatives. Don't, don't take this responsibility off conservatives. Why is the poly market have Pierre at 93% in January? Why?

• 2:01:19Adam Sosnick?

  That was before Trump took office, and then Trump came to office, started going a literal trade war with Canada. It galvanized the people of Canada. They inserted this new candidate, and they're like, let's rally around this guy.

• 2:01:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait a minute.

• 2:01:34Adam Sosnick?

  Cause we're going against Trump.

• 2:01:35Patrick Bet-David?

  So they, perfect.

• 2:01:36Adam Sosnick?

  Because who, because people are more willing to rally against an enemy like Trump.

• 2:01:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Now you're at a place.

• 2:01:41Adam Sosnick?

  Than a vanilla candidate like Mark Carney.

• 2:01:44Patrick Bet-David?

  But you're not, now you're at a place, now you're at a place. Is Trump gonna do Trump all the time? Is Trump gonna be Trump all the time?

• 2:01:52Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 2:01:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Is Trump gonna do what Trump does all the time?

• 2:01:54Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 2:01:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes. So is this more a credit to Carney's diplomacy on knowing how to handle Trump? And a shot at Pierre for not knowing how to handle Trump? Does the credit go to the candidate that knew how to handle Trump better than the other?

• 2:02:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you give credit to Carney for learning how to deal with Trump versus Pierre not knowing how to deal with Trump?

• 2:02:17Adam Sosnick?

  Sure, I'll give him some credit.

• 2:02:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, that's the argument. So the argument here is not on the fact that Canada's more progressive or not. The argument is on the fact that Pierre mishandled Trump. The same way DeSantis mishandled Trump. It's a mishandling of Trump. If Trump is number one in the world, and that's who he is today. If Obama was number one in the world when he was a leader of the free world, you have to learn how to deal with him. You have to learn how to manage and deal with him. Pierre didn't know how to deal with Trump. He didn't understand the power dynamics, something a lot of people don't understand. Something a lot of people like James Ward, he comes to the Lakers, he thinks he's a better player than Magic Johnson. Magic's

• 2:02:59Patrick Bet-David?

  like, you either can go to a different team, or you have to realize, this is my team. And if you don't understand it, you can go anywhere else. Magic was very clear about it. It's Trump's world right now. And Pierre didn't know how to coexist in Trump's world. And that is his error. And Carney gets credit for being able to play the politics better. And by the way, his policies are not necessarily better for Canada, but he did a better job on how to deal with Trump. And who loses? Conservatives of Canada. Welcome. Your guy Poliev didn't know how to handle Trump. So it's very easy for people to say, you know, well, no, it's really this. It's all Trump's fault. It's all Carney's fault. It's all the liberals' fault.

• 2:03:40Patrick Bet-David?

  It's all the mainstream media's fault. I am very simple. It comes back to the way you handled it. The way you mishandled this opportunity, you went from 93 to 35.

• 2:03:52Adam Sosnick?

  Wow.

• 2:03:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Who was the quarterback of the Atlanta Falcons? Who's the quarterback of the...

• 2:03:57Adam Sosnick?

  Matt Ryan?

• 2:03:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Matt Ryan. Did Tom Brady win that Super Bowl, or did Matt Ryan lose that Super Bowl?

• 2:04:04Adam Sosnick?

  A little bit of both.

• 2:04:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I think Ryan lost like. There is no way it's a little bit of both. It for sure is Matt Ryan lost it. You're winning 28 to 3. Correct. And you lose?

• 2:04:16Adam Sosnick?

  So it's not on the defense? You're not giving Tom credit?

• 2:04:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You didn't score a single touchdown second half. No, I'm giving Tom credit. Of course, Tom is the goat. But what I'm trying to say is, was it more Matt Ryan losing it or was it more Tom Brady winning it? Of course, it's more Matt Ryan losing it. How do you lose that? You're going into the fourth quarter with a 20, 23, what is it? A third quarter with three minutes left. 28 to 9. Yeah, and you lose that? This is embarrassing what Pierre did here. And his voters, his base should be on his side. In 2020, when we're talking podcast and Trump loses, what did I talk about in 2020 when I talked about Trump? Do you remember? Because you were there. What did I talk about with Trump when he lost in 2020?

• 2:05:01Adam Sosnick?

  Remind me, there was a lot of things going on.

• 2:05:03Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but what was it that he stopped doing that I said, go back to what worked in 2016?

• 2:05:09Adam Sosnick?

  Selling the dream?

• 2:05:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Selling the dream. Well, what was he constantly doing?

• 2:05:12Adam Sosnick?

  The nightmare?

• 2:05:12Patrick Bet-David?

  The unfair. It's unfair. It's unfair. It's unfair. It's unfair. Yeah, and so guess what? Yeah, of course, they play the game. Of course, they manipulate it. Of course, they did what they did. Of course, it was election interference. But at the same time, it's more on how you handle it. Nobody in the right sense knew how to handle COVID. That was a very weird situation for us to go through. But here, Pierre was handed this to him. Go for it. Hand it. Hey, you're going to be the PM. And he started thinking he's bigger than Trump. Eating an apple. Destroy, you try to embarrass Trump publicly? No problem. Here you go. And why does Carney know how to do this? Because Carney was a what before?

• 2:05:51Patrick Bet-David?

  He was in the investment banking for 19 years. What do you learn when you're a businessman?

• 2:05:56Adam Sosnick?

  Negotiations?

• 2:05:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And learning how to broker deals. What do you not learn in politics? It's power. It's like, well, you know, you go give a speech in front of everybody. No, in business, deals are done behind closed doors. And Pierre didn't know how to make the one phone call. Hey, I'd like to speak with the president.

• 2:06:11Adam Sosnick?

  Well, it's certainly, I guess here's my point. It's certainly on Pierre Poliev. But I guess what I'm also saying is, don't discount how much Canadians dislike Trump. So once this trade war started and Mark Carney was catapulted to the forefront of the election and.

• 2:06:31Adam Sosnick?

  The people were galvanized by being against Trump. I think we're saying the same thing. I'm just saying it's not binary. It's not all on Pierre Poliev or not.

• 2:06:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I know, but what I'm saying, like, for example, if, if, if we want something, who wants something from who? Who wants, does Canada want and need more stuff from US? Or does US need and want more stuff from Canada? Who needs who more?

• 2:06:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Canada needs us so much more.

• 2:06:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Does Pierre need Trump or does Trump need Pierre?

• 2:07:00Adam Sosnick?

  Pierre needs Trump. Yeah, Trump don't need Pierre. But we do import a lot of things from Canada. It's not like they're, I mean, yes, we're bigger, we're better, we're stronger, we're doper, we're the best. But like, they got a lot going on, Canada.

• 2:07:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Not.

• 2:07:12Adam Sosnick?

  They got some stuff.

• 2:07:13Patrick Bet-David?

  But whatever Canada does, we can get elsewhere.

• 2:07:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Dude, this is just a political miscalculation by Pierre Poliev. Of a frickin' Olympic level. He gets the gold medal for political miscalculations. Right? I'm not picking on him as a human being. I'm saying is this was a terrible miscalculation and now he's in this corner. And by the way, there are a lot of people put comments on this that say we get Canada right and wrong and things like this. But I'll tell you, Ontario, where Toronto is, Quebec, where Montreal is, that's like New York and California. That's where the weight, that's where the weight of the populace is. But you go to, you go to Yukon, Northwest Territory, Alberta, Alberta is the Texas of Canada. Saskatchewan and Manitoba, and you find people that are annoyed with what's happened with the Trump tariffs.

• 2:07:58Tom Ellsworth?

  But these are conservative people that are looking around, shaking their head, saying, what just happened? They see this stuff too. And by the way, Polly Market's only one poll. It's, it's a little closer than that, but Polly never should have squandered this lead. Never should have gone this. And it's because, guess what? One guy came from the Bank of England, one guy came from a business, was making decisions. And the other guy was making speeches. And the guy making speeches make terrible miscalculations. Pat is absolutely correct on this, how it shakes out. And I think you need to look a little deeper at the people of Canada. Cause there's some conservatives in Western Canada that are pretty pissed off right now. They're annoyed with Trump, yes, but they're pissed off that they're conservative leader. How did we blow this thing?

• 2:08:41Tom Ellsworth?

  All we had to do was survive to the election and we're going to take care.

• 2:08:45Adam Sosnick?

  Of Justin Trudeau. And we're finally going to be out under that 10 year problem. And then this happens. Do you know, how do they feel? Yeah, I might just, not to cut you off, Mark Carney went up and Rob, I, I sent you that clip of what he said, what he's gonna do, you know, not threaten like, like we're gonna go to war, but he was like, stated political, economic, military relationship between the US is over. It's over. This is the clip right, it's like 18 seconds.

• 2:09:10Tom Ellsworth?

  We will need to ensure that Canada can succeed in a drastically different world.

• 2:09:17Tom Ellsworth?

  The old relationship we had with the United States, based on deepening integration of our economies and tight security and military cooperations is over.

• 2:09:26Adam Sosnick?

  That's, that's what, because of Pierre, now you got that guy, the WEF guy. That's the guy that you guys are gonna get. Congratulations. I, I just. Why? Why are we fighting with Canada? We should be fighting with China. China's been, who's been taking advantage of us for the past 40 years. Well, they're the ones booing our national anthem. They're, they're, they want the smoke. But like, what, what? They want the smoke so they can get it. I don't get the fighting with Canada. Me neither. It's them. Okay, I, I don't get it. And like, Canada is like the California of countries. That's like, of course, there's gonna be a third of Californians who are like, F Gavin Newsom, F Karen Bass is ridiculous. But then you're gonna have the vast majority being like, yes, I want all of that and then stop. So that's Canada. So they're gonna

• 2:10:12Adam Sosnick?

  make their bed, they're gonna have to line it with their maple syrup and their maple leaves. That's it. Yep.

• 2:10:17Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna see what's gonna happen here. But the reality of it is, it's either Trump wants him in because he wants to trade war to continue. It's either Trump wants him in because he's agreed to terms with Trump to speak and Trump told him, if you turn on me, I'm gonna turn on you like never before. So whatever commitments he made to him on the phone call. He has to keep, or Trump is so offended by Pierre's disrespect and lack of diplomacy that he says, "F that guy, I'm moving on." He has no clue what he's doing. He's too arrogant, he's too entitled. It could be as simple as Trump invited Pierre to come to the White House and come to Mar-a-Lago and he declined it. It could be that simple. Any of those

• 2:10:58Patrick Bet-David?

  things is a screw up, because you think American conservatives would rather have Carney or would rather have Pierre? What do you think? Pierre. Of course! But thi- Of course! But it's your mishandling. Trump is not gonna help you become a president, you gotta go earn it. And, and the way he's playing it is, is it doesn't make any sense to him. I'm not a Canadian, I don't live there, uh, but, you know, seeing the way this was handled, extremely embarrassing. Alright, let's go to the next story here. Let's go to the next story here, blah, blah, blah. Gavin Newsom, Rob, pull this clip up. Gavin Newsom says, uh, uh, uh, Newsom says Democratic brand is toxic. Okay, is this with Bill Maher, Rob? Yep. Okay, go for it. Play this clip.

• 2:11:41Adam Sosnick?

  These guys are crushing us. The Democratic brand is toxic right now. Uh, we had a high watermark two weeks ago, and that was a CNN poll, at 29% favorability. It's dropped in the NBC poll down to 27%. It's one thing to make noise, but you also have to make sense. And I think with this podcast and having the opportunity to dialogue with people I disagree with, it's an opportunity to try to find common ground and not take cheap shots. I'm not looking to put a spoke in the wheel of their, or at least a crowbar in the spokes of their wheel to trip them, to your point.

• 2:12:10Patrick Bet-David?

  What?

• 2:12:10Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, and I think it's important, Democrats, we tend to be a little more judgmental than we should be.

• 2:12:15Patrick Bet-David?

  The hand gesture.

• 2:12:16Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, this notion of cancel culture, you've been living it, you've been on the receiving end of it for years and years and years. That's real. And Democrats need to own up to that.

• 2:12:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom?

• 2:12:24Tom Ellsworth?

  So, I think there's something really dangerous about Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom is running right now, and you'll see if you watch this, um, interview with Bill Maher. Bill Maher asked him, "Why don't you run? You're capable, you can do it." I bet, you know, and he won't answer the question. He won't answer the question and say that he's running, but he is running. And that's what's going on here. And what's interesting, what's very, very interesting, he said, "We own the failed governance in California, but I said there's a new day last year and that we own the response of reform." You hear that response of reform, Vinnie?

• 2:12:59Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 2:13:00Tom Ellsworth?

  "We own the response of reform." That is the wolf in sheep's clothing. That is what's coming. This is a political posturing. You know, it's not like when Bill Clinton ran to the middle and governed from the middle. Because if you look at Arkansas, I actually think he kind of was a bit of a centrist. He was always a liberal, but he kind of governed from the center. It was not controversial, it didn't create a lot of problems, and he got a lot of stuff done. And Newsom is not that. This is, I believe, what Newsom is showing, and I'd love to sit down and talk with him and challenge him on this, saying, "How do you keep tweaking your positions like this? Don't you see what this looks like? Is this really the way you feel?

• 2:13:44Tom Ellsworth?

  If this is the way you feel, why didn't you say this last year?" I'd love to hear him kind of unpack that and who he is, and then ask him, say, "Why didn't you answer Bill Maher? Are you running or are you not, big dog?" Vinnie?

• 2:13:54Adam Sosnick?

  That was a, listen, did you guys see the entire, the interview with him? Bill Maher was like, Rob, did I send you the one clip? Yeah, like, like, ready for this? Bill Maher is playing this game where he's like, he's pushing him, but then he's having fun. He's not really holding his foot to the fire, because it's like a joke. I'll let Rob play this and I'll, I'll let you know. Rob, how long is it?

• 2:14:13Tom Ellsworth?

  1:13.

• 2:14:14Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, yeah, go ahead and play, and then I'm going to say my piece on, on, look at it.

• 2:14:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's talk about what's important. My roof. Your roof. My roof. Is this the solar? Is this more back to the solar? After the fire. It's always about the solar. After, yeah. It's a fun game. After the fire. Yes, Bill. New roof, they suggested, you know, get the stuff that's not, okay? Two inspections I needed to have. Why? It's my roof. If it falls, if it falls on my head, that's my problem. That's it? That's it. That's just a statement. No, that's my question. Why do I need two inspections, which I have to pay for? Yeah. You were here last time, we talked about regulations.

• 2:14:54Adam Sosnick?

  You said, "Oh, it's a completely new day." Well, no, wait, wait, wait.

• 2:14:58Tom Ellsworth?

  He put his hand gesture.

• 2:14:59Adam Sosnick?

  It's a completely new day. You said you were working on it. By the way, and last week you had Ezra Klein on, which was incredibly important. He wrote a book called Abundance, which really lays out a very condemning picture of liberal governance in this country. And the fact that we are process focused and not outcome focused. And your demonstrable example of that is relates to what you've tried to do with your damn roof for the last 15 years. Joe, look, you're having a great time. It's our job to eliminate as many of those thickets. How's that going, though? How's it going? But again, this is Bill Maher. He loves Gavin Newsom, his words, okay? Gavin, for Gavin Newsom to call the Democratic Party toxic is all hypocrisy.

• 2:15:41Adam Sosnick?

  He's been poisoning California for years. I don't want anybody out there to forget it, okay? The taxes, the regulations, the policies, the billions of dollars wasted on homelessness. And what did it do? It produced more homeless people, okay? The wildfire is raging, everybody's blaming everybody. It all falls on him, he's the governor. All the businesses fleeing, they lost me, they lost you, they lost you, we're here now. The streets are overrun, homeless encampments. It's just, it's horrible. California is falling. And then he's flip flopping on transgender issues. He pushes for policies that will have minors have the frigging surgeries without their parents knowing. And now he's playing, blaming the blame game, Tom. The, no, no, it's the party. This is what all these guys, have you noticed, or is it just me?

• 2:16:25Adam Sosnick?

  All of these people, all the Cuomos, all the Stephen, everybody that was left that voted for Kamala, now is like, man, this party got out of control. No, no, you are out of control. You guys are all the fault for everything that's happened for the past four years. You all supported it, and now everybody's jumping ship. Now it's like he's the savior. Oh, no, no, I'm gonna change, I'm gonna change, no, no. And that's the problem, I think, with giving people this platform. Because if a conservative talks with him and sits with him, when it comes voting time in four years, they're gonna go like this. Yeah, remember that interview, Tom? Gavin seemed like a really nice, reasonable guy. Do not be fooled, he's a Trojan horse, and he's gonna be the frontrunner, mark my words. And this snake, my- opinion is gonna be the frontrunner and people are gonna vote for his ass, period.

• 2:17:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Seem, feel, think, it's feelings and perceptions and then sentiment. And that's where you run for most voters in America, because most people are not, you know, locking in unless the economy or immigration really hits them hard and then they're reacting. But in a neutral economy world, you know, he's got a chance to present himself. And Bill Maher, I'll say this about Bill Maher. Bill Maher is looking for a guy to get behind on his side.

• 2:17:35Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 2:17:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Bill Maher is a liberal and he's looking, who are the draft picks I have? Who do I have? And he's trying to pick somebody that he thinks is electable. I don't have any quarrel with Bill Maher for that. I think that's what Bill Maher is doing. And he likes this guy, he's, you know, he's personable, we know that he's a little bit slick.

• 2:17:54Adam Sosnick?

  A little bit slick, but Tom, look at, look at the state, sorry.

• 2:17:56Tom Ellsworth?

  A little bit slick?

• 2:17:57Adam Sosnick?

  Look at the state of California. If, if this is a resume.

• 2:18:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Take a shower after talking to him. His report card is not good.

• 2:18:02Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, if your, if your resume, if you show, Tom, if I showed up to your office and I was like, hi, I'm Gavin Newsom. I wanna, I wanna run your company. This is how I ran my company, California. Are you even, look at the first page? You're not gonna talk to this guy. He's, he's not good at his job.

• 2:18:19Tom Ellsworth?

  I think he knows that, and I think that's why he's out here saying, we're trying to have a dialogue, trying to understand this, trying all this. He's trying to move off of that, because he knows that's the record, he knows that's a report card. And he's, he's gotta do what he can in the political stage to move off that, and I think that's what we're seeing.

• 2:18:32Adam Sosnick?

  But that's, but that's the fear for me, Tom, is this four years? And I think, I think the trolling of Trump for the, the, the, the new, the, the another term, the third term. It's just trolling people like The View, which I love it. It's trolling people like Rosie Adal, because the TDS, he loves doing that to people. But if, the, the fear that I have is in the four years, these type of people are gonna be in the conversation to run the country, and you wanna talk about reversing everything? That's what they're gonna do.

• 2:18:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, let them worry about the third term. Maybe it helps Trump get other things done.

• 2:19:00Adam Sosnick?

  But I hope so.

• 2:19:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam.

• 2:19:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you something about this guy Gavin Newsom. He is such a good politician. This guy, he's a hypocrite, he's a flip flopper, he's two faced, he's disingenuous, he's slick, he's insincere, and that is why he is such a good politician. He walks out the door and does politician style, puts his finger to the wind, which which way is public opinion leaning? All right, that's what I'm going with today, guys. It's absolutely unbelievable. He stands for nothing. And this at this at this rate, this is what makes him such a good politician. Which way are we going on this? How many things has he flip flopped on? Remember during COVID, he was the U-Haul salesman of the year.

• 2:19:46Patrick Bet-David?

  That whole incident, French laundry, do as you're told, don't do as I do, that whole thing. The COVID lockdowns, the mask mandates, the kids in school. He was for Latinx, then he didn't know what Latinx was, for trans, and then we're getting a little too carried away with the trans here, guys. The budgets, the fires, it's all falling apart. And now he has the balls, if they still have those things in California, to go on Bill Maher and be like, listen, guys, the Democratic brand is toxic. You're the poster child of why they're toxic.

• 2:20:18Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, period.

• 2:20:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You're the governor of California. Like, you're the poster child of why they're toxic.

• 2:20:23Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:20:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're being like, listen, guys, we.

• 2:20:26Adam Sosnick?

  They, no, they.

• 2:20:28Patrick Bet-David?

  These guys over here.

• 2:20:29Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:20:29Patrick Bet-David?

  There's such a unique skill as a politician to be able to do that, to look in the camera, know that you don't give a shit about anybody, about any policy, about any conviction, and be like, and that's why you should vote for me.

• 2:20:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Unbelievable.

• 2:20:45Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:20:46Patrick Bet-David?

  What an incredible politician. And if there's one thing I know about him, he ain't scared to show up.

• 2:20:52Adam Sosnick?

  Nope.

• 2:20:52Patrick Bet-David?

  We were at the RNC debate, he was there. He's having Charlie Kirk show up.

• 2:20:56Adam Sosnick?

  Newsom, I mean, he was staying with the Santas.

• 2:20:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Unbelievable.

• 2:21:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, hang on, hang on. In California, where he was outside at a pop up news tent. So it wasn't like he traveled to the middle of freaking Texas to do this.

• 2:21:10Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think he would? This guy will show up.

• 2:21:14Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm saying the event you're referencing, let's talk about what he did.

• 2:21:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, yes, you're right, but you think this guy, he just had Charlie Kirk on. Did he have Steve Bannon on? Who the hell does this guy have on?

• 2:21:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:21:24Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're giving one example of, yeah, because the RNC was in California. I would think he would go to other places. This guy, there was a song from, Tom, you would know this, you're a big hip hop fan, by Bone Crusher and Killer Mike. And it would say things like, "We ain't never scared. We ain't never scared." This guy must have listened to that song on repeat, put on his American Psycho outfit and be like, "Let's get him and take America down. Because we ain't never scared." This guy is so skilled and is so ready for the battle. We'll see how long it lasts, but this guy's running in 2028.

• 2:21:57Tom Ellsworth?

  There you go.

• 2:21:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Mark that. All right, so by the way, somebody just placed an order of four of these. This thing's about to be gone. One reason he's ordered four of these things here for himself and apparently gifts, and who knows, maybe one on eBay. But if you haven't placed the order yet, go to VTmerch.com, place the limited edition order, guys. There's a few remaining before this thing goes. Probably within the hour, it's going to be sold out. The new leather, genuine leather backpack that we have. Anyways, gang, it's been great being with you. For those of you that want to continue this discussion after we're done the heated debates, it's all on PBD Podcast Circle that we have. Go on PBD Podcast Circle, join them in X Circle. Throughout the day, everybody is sharing stories. We put behind the scenes, you'll see Vinnie today choking while he's making a video,

• 2:22:42Patrick Bet-David?

  mosquito goes in his mouth. Did you post that or not yet?

• 2:22:44Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I posted and I ate it.

• 2:22:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, gang, take care, everybody. We'll do the skit on Thursday. God bless. Bye bye, bye bye.

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