Zelenskyy's OMINOUS Putin Threat | PBD Podcast | Ep. 568

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover the Signal text scandal, Tesla insurance rates skyrocketing due to vandalism threats, and Kristi Noem's plans to end FEMA. ------ 🌸 THE VT SPRING COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4kK4tVh 📕 CELEBRATE NATIONAL READING MONTH: https://bit.ly/4iYqL3N 👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH: https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright?

• 0:57Speaker 04

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one? My son's right there.

• 1:03Speaker 05

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:09Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, Rob, what episode are we on? 568. 568. We got back from Utah this morning. We landed at 4:15, got to the house, 5 o'clock, got dressed, came to the office. Couple of us got an hour nap, and I were doing a podcast together. But we had such a great time at this event yesterday. Amazing. With Vivint. There was 3,000, 4,000 people in the room. The energy was off the charts. It was unbelievable. Anyways, but, we're still gonna do the PBD Podcast, even though we're going on fumes right now, but it's just another day. All right, so let's go through a couple of things we got here. Trump's administration ends taxpayer-funded housing programs for illegals.

• 1:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me, let me read that to you one more time. Trump's administration ends taxpayer-funded housing programs for illegals. Okay? So that means at one point, we, we had that, which is the weirdest part about this. NASA says Trump is responsible for stranded astronaut saga ending.

• 2:10Patrick Bet-David?

  It would not have happened. Tom's got some thoughts on that. Canadians are boycotting American vacations. Tom is devastated by that, but the stats have a little bit more story. When he breaks it down for you, it's a WSJ story. Some Europeans reconsider trips to US in protest against Trump. They don't want to come to vacation here. Some people in Miami may actually be excited about that, right? You got people that are not going to be, you know, they're going to have a little bit more traffic than others. But we'll see, we'll see what's going to happen there. DHS Secretary Kristi Noem reveals plan to eliminate FEMA. Florida considers bill to roll back child labor laws to fill jobs once held by undocumented immigrants.

• 2:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Greenlanders are angry and confused over unwanted US visit. The $20 burrito you order from DoorDash could cost you $70. Wait till you hear this story, it's very interesting. Gen Z's splurging on pricey concert tickets, which may be the reason why they can't afford to buy a house. Nine weird recession indicators from lipstick to snacks. Copper to $12,000 this year say major trading groups. Then we got a couple of other stories here through the roof. CNN data guru breaks down surge in Americans saying US on the right track under Trump. And note, Disney loses top spot in TV viewing to YouTube. And we got a couple of other stories here. Stephen A. Smith and LeBron been going back and forth.

• 3:36Patrick Bet-David?

  LeBron decides to go, he rarely does any podcasts, but he decides to go on the, what is it? The Pat McAfee podcast. And he talks about him and Jordan don't talk. He talked about a bunch of stuff with Stephen A. Stephen A. comes back and responds and says, if he would have done anything, I would have punched him in the face. And then I think Stephen A. also said he's a liar. He called him a lot of different things and it was, it was pretty nasty, but we'll, we'll talk about that. ICE agents detain Tufts University's grad students after pro Palestinian opinion piece. Snow White producer, son, says Rachel Z... You have to see this Instagram post, by the way, it's fantastic. Says Rachel Zegler hurt the film's box office with her actions in the since deleted comment.

• 4:20Patrick Bet-David?

  And he says that she hurt everybody else's job. People who were making this movie, they wanted to be able to say that I worked on a movie that did very well. They said she destroyed the chances of that happening. Zelensky says Putin will die soon and vows it will come to an end.

• 4:36Speaker 06

  Oh, man.

• 4:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Who the hell says something like that?

• 4:38Speaker 06

  Somebody, somebody that doesn't.

• 4:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Zelensky says Putin will die soon?

• 4:42Speaker 06

  He doesn't value his life.

• 4:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that a threat or does he know something the rest of the people don't know?

• 4:47Speaker 06

  That sounds like a threat to me.

• 4:48Speaker 04

  Zelensky press conference live from the grassy knoll.

• 4:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And then we got a couple of other things. A judge, Vinnie's got some thoughts on that. And then Andrew Tate, what is the story? Girlfriend, Bree Stern says, you know, Andrew nearly choked her unconscious. Rob, can we post the content, the notes as well on PBD Podcast Circle, please? Let's make sure to do that. Okay, fantastic. All right. So those are the stories and we've got a couple of videos I will show you as well. Having said that, nothing excites me more than when I'm out there and I watch people wearing Future Looks Bright gear. It's getting bigger and it's getting now to a lot of different places, which is fantastic. And ladies, you've been asking for it. You've been talking to VT Merch and the team's been listening to you. Spring collection is here.

• 5:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Now we have some of this active wear hats for those of you that work out, that you want something lighter, you're runners, but you still want to represent the item in gear. We have it in many different colors, you know, yellow, you got them in pink, you got them in baby blue, you got them in the Tiffany blue color, you got them on all these other things that are here. And for some of you, what did you call this, Rob? There was a name for this, Rob, Tom?

• 5:55Speaker 06

  Active, active wear.

• 5:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Active wear, but this hat here for some that like this style. This is out as well. Some of you guys ask for it. And then the shirts. I'm telling you, the material of these shirts, when you put them on, is unreal. Unreal, the material, when you feel it and you put it on. This is a new one that came in Future Looks Bright with the logo on the front. We got the sweater that's here as well. Navy blue, Future Looks Bright. Okay?

• 6:21Speaker 06

  The material is ridiculous.

• 6:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Honestly, the material.

• 6:24Speaker 06

  Did you see these?

• 6:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my god.

• 6:26Speaker 06

  I tried to get one of these, but he said they don't have my size yet.

• 6:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my. You'll get us a medium one of these days.

• 6:31Speaker 06

  No, I get large homie.

• 6:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I get this one. You're not large. Rob, is this on the web? Can you see if this is the webs- on the website?

• 6:35Speaker 06

  It is.

• 6:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you go to the gold one?

• 6:37Speaker 06

  Right there.

• 6:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my goodness, look at this. And it's not just screen printed, those are like thick letters.

• 6:41Speaker 06

  Yeah, it pops off the shirt.

• 6:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's great. And then on the back, you got the vaity taming gear. Uh, go to V teamers dot com, place your order. We want a million of us wearing this everywhere we go. Vinnie went the other day, he was looking at a couple of cars. He's debating between getting a cyber truck and a couple of other cars. And while we're having a conversation, he says one of the guy rolls up in a, in a, like you can tell beat up purple and gold vaity taming hat.

• 7:09Speaker 06

  Brandon.

• 7:10Patrick Bet-David?

  But we love seeing that. Anyways, all right, guys, let's get right into it. First story to get into. Uh, out of everything that we got going on here, uh, let's see which one we going to first.

• 7:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my goodness, which one? Let's go into this one here. Nine weird recession indicators from lipstick to snacks. There's a lot of talks right now about recession, a lot. A lot of people want it to happen. Some people think it may happen due to some of the policies that we're having, but we kind of need to go through it. But let's take a look at this. So nine weird recession indicators from lipstick to snacks, according to Business Insider. Number one, snack index. People buy fewer snacks during recessions with evidence from 2008 great recession showing reduced consumption of snacks, fast food and fresh produce. General Mills, maker of Chex Mix and Nature Valley's granola bars, reported a 5% drop

• 8:05Patrick Bet-David?

  in net sales in Q3 of 2025. We're not even in Q3. Is it orders? I don't know why it says Q3 here. Number two, mini alcohol bottle indicator. Shoppers switched to mini bottles of alcohol during economic uncertainty instead of full, full sized ones. And CEO of Lawson White Inc. says the reason small sizes are doing well is more because of the cyclical inflation and it's consumer that's pinched. Okay, so if you're ordering those mini alcohol bottles, that's an indicator. Three lipstick index coined by Leonard Lauter.

• 8:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Billionaire heir to Estee Lauder in 2001 when lipstick sales rose during a recession. Lauder's theory lipstick sales and the health of the economy were in inverse proportion to one another. Sales rose in 2001 by 11% boomed in 2008 during great recession and great recently despite high inflation. Interesting lipstick underwear index. What is this one? Popularized by former Fed Fed Alan Griesman suggests that men delay buying new underwear during downturns.

• 9:09Speaker 06

  Yeah, this is the chairman of the Fed talking about interest rates and underwear sales.

• 9:14Patrick Bet-David?

  My dad since 21 years old for my birthday and my Christmas only gets me Costco underwear. I don't understand.

• 9:19Speaker 06

  You you wear that?

• 9:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I have enough underwear right now that I'm not open to start a side business. Just so you know that. So if anybody's struggling guys.

• 9:25Speaker 06

  Stop a VT logo on it, let's go.

• 9:27Patrick Bet-David?

  In our house, I don't know, he's worried about underwear.

• 9:29Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 9:29Patrick Bet-David?

  But I love you dad, I know you've been doing that for a while. So sales dipped in 2008, same thing with underwear. Hemline index. It claims that skirts shorten in good economic and lengthened and bad ones. That is so weird from the 1920s. So in good economy, ladies wear shorter skirt in bad economy, they wear longer skirts. How the hell does that make any sense? Next one. Cardboard box indicator in early 2009 during recession shipments declined drastically and manufacturers operated rates fell.

• 10:02Speaker 06

  This one's real.

• 10:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, diaper rash indicator diaper rash parents ration diapers costing $500 to $900 a year during rough times increasing diaper rash and ointment sales. And in 2011 diaper sales fell, ointment sales rose 8% according to Wall Street Journal. Champagne index. US sales fell from 23 million bottles pre 2008 to 12 and a half million bottles in 2000. That's a 50% drop off according to UC Berkeley and then to 18% it dropped in 2020 before hitting a $5.7 billion in 2021 and socializing resume. So and the last one out of this stripper index exotic dancers notice recessions early says Alia Kissick CEO of Financial Literacy.

• 10:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Economist Peter added a decrease in restaurant tipping suggests that consumers are reducing discretionary spending. Okay, Adam, your thoughts on the story?

• 10:53Speaker 06

  Well, these are all just indicators, right? So just like the S and P 500 is an index, is an indicator of what's going on in the economy. By the way, since January, Tom, help me out here. How was the market performed since Trump has taken office?

• 11:09Adam Sosnick?

  Well, it's it's down in the last trailing thirty, trailing sixty as market sentiment is reacting negatively to the tariffs and what that could do to future earnings. And so there's a lot of concern about that. But also the S and P, I think, just had a four day rally in the midst of all this. I think just last four days in a row.

• 11:31Speaker 06

  Right. So I feel like just recently, the market has now broken even, like it was negative for the year recently. But we all we've all discussed what's going on with the tariffs. We feel like it's a necessary evil to help the economy.

• 11:44Adam Sosnick?

  Food poisoning. The economy's gotta get through some food poisoning.

• 11:47Speaker 06

  It's almost like if you have cancer and you have to take a cancer drug or have to deal with going through the the ill effects of that, that's exactly what's going on with the economy right now. But here are three things that I want to point out of these nine indicators. Number one, instead of buying regular bottles of alcohol, they're buying many bottles of alcohol because you still gotta get drunk. Right, Ben? I mean, you understand, like, people, when they're alcoholics and they're at the party.

• 12:14Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 12:15Speaker 06

  I know you're alcohol free these days, so.

• 12:17Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, May thirty first is two years.

• 12:19Speaker 06

  And we're very proud of you, if you were still drinking.

• 12:21Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 12:22Speaker 06

  Rather than getting a court or a leader.

• 12:24Adam Sosnick?

  Little nippers.

• 12:24Speaker 06

  You got little things, you take them in your pocket.

• 12:26Adam Sosnick?

  All day.

• 12:26Speaker 06

  Okay. Number two, the diaper rash index.

• 12:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, sir. Have you ever bought small bottle alcohol?

• 12:33Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 12:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you?

• 12:34Speaker 06

  No.

• 12:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 12:35Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, honestly, I can say.

• 12:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Because tequila Jose Cuervo was so cheap, the small bottles, why would I go buy the small ones? Even when I was in the army and I was broke.

• 12:42Speaker 06

  Well.

• 12:42Patrick Bet-David?

  You guys really bought the small ones?

• 12:43Adam Sosnick?

  If I was driving.

• 12:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, okay.

• 12:46Adam Sosnick?

  Really? If I was going somewhere, like if I was driving to a comedy club, I would do it. And then, Doug, I wasn't alcoholic. There ain't no shame in my game. I would, right before I went in.

• 12:54Speaker 06

  But would you drink and drive or would you pull over and take sips?

• 12:56Adam Sosnick?

  I did a lot of things, you know. I did a lot of crazy stuff.

• 12:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So what else? Let's see what else.

• 13:00Speaker 06

  But here's another little hot tip for anybody out there. You might have noticed, you know, drinks in clubs are like a hundred times more expensive.

• 13:07Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 13:07Speaker 06

  So, you know, you bring a couple mini bottles in the club. Next thing you know, or you have a girl with a purse.

• 13:14Patrick Bet-David?

  How much are drinks at the club right now?

• 13:16Speaker 06

  In Miami?

• 13:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 13:17Speaker 06

  Twenty bucks a pop.

• 13:18Adam Sosnick?

  That's insane.

• 13:19Patrick Bet-David?

  For what, though?

• 13:20Speaker 06

  I mean, just standard cocktail.

• 13:21Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 13:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Twenty bucks a pop.

• 13:23Adam Sosnick?

  What's a standard cocktail?

• 13:24Speaker 06

  I mean.

• 13:24Adam Sosnick?

  Single martini off and just shell vodka, not a upscale.

• 13:28Speaker 06

  If you want a cocktail, it's gonna cost you twenty bucks. Maybe it's sixteen and they add tax and tip, bing, bing, bing, you're twenty. Sometimes it's, here you go, right here. Well, that's

• 13:37Adam Sosnick?

  Shout out to live Miami.

• 13:39Speaker 06

  And that's why we were drinking the car pedal. That's why we would like, we would get, I'm dead serious. We would get the little bottles and before we walked into the club, we would drink fast, go and have fun and have one drink in the night.

• 13:49Adam Sosnick?

  Or you have a girl or the purse, she brings a couple of bottles in the club. You know, she does your dirty work for you.

• 13:54Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 13:55Adam Sosnick?

  Well, here's another thing, the three things. Number two, the diaper rash index. I mean, how tough are times if you're not going to basically get enough diapers and diaper rash? What ointments, Vaseline, what do you use for kids these days? I don't know. I don't have kids, but your kids are going to suffer. There you go. But then here's the big one, Pat, and I'm sure it's going to create a little storm here. But you know who notices recessions before anybody? Forget Jim Cramer, forget Warren Buffett. It's candy to the stage, candy to the stage. Cause strippers notice recessions before anybody because they are the sole beneficiary of consumer discretionary spending.

• 14:40Adam Sosnick?

  They're used to making it rain a hundred dollars bills at a time. Next thing you know, they're getting quarters. Here we go. Uh oh, recession happening right now. So the leading in, so across, across the US and the UK, strip clubs have slowed down significantly. I mean, the last thing we need for a market is to go flat. Same thing for the ladies out there. But here's a little quote from Nikki Adams, who runs the campaign group, English Collective of Prostitutes. She says, "The cost of living crisis is having terrible effect on sex workers. We recorded a 30% jump in the last year in the number of callers seeking support. Women are calling us upset and scared. Women are frantically asking if we can provide food vouchers for food banks."

• 15:24Adam Sosnick?

  So they're having housing problems. I guess this is going on all around the globe right now, but it is a leading indicator of a recession. So we'll see what happens.

• 15:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, the poll you ran of, do you see the United States going into recession in 2025? Okay, watch how it came out. It's actually very interesting how everybody voted. 2,400 people have voted so far, 2,500 people have voted so far. And the vote results are 53 no, 47 yes. Right. But 47 believe it could happen this year. So it's 50/50. It's 50/50. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 16:00Speaker 06

  So, some of these indicators are interesting headlines and it's something that business media can put out. And this was from Business Insider. But there are several of these indicators that are very real and people that track the economy watch them. I watch the cardboard box indicator because that is a clear indication of shipping and you can see more or less happening. Also, it was very interesting is when inflation and when times are tough, the snacks are down. People aren't buying the bag, I mean Halloween, they're not buying the bag of like Snickers minis and those little treats and stuff. Those stay out of the grocery cart because, you know, things are a little tough. And I have never in my life, and I think everybody on this podcast, what people know is that we're not partying

• 16:45Speaker 06

  and none of us have full liquor closets at home. I don't ever remember buying little bottles to take them home. That may be a whole different slice of life, but I don't remember, ever remember that. You know, you see them on airplanes on the cart when people do, but I don't know about that one. But the snack index and the cardboard index, I would see that. What's a little alarming to me is I really was bummed out to see, I hadn't heard about this before, the diaper rash indicator. That parents would actually leave the diaper on their kid a little bit longer because now if you've walked down the diaper aisle, it's expensive. Diapers are not cheap. They're very expensive. And so, by the way, if you know people that are, that have had kids, one of the greatest gifts you can give them is those newborn diapers.

• 17:30Speaker 06

  Go to Costco, get a couple of those big, big giant shrink wrap things.

• 17:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 17:34Speaker 06

  Because they're expensive. But I didn't know about that one. But I also had heard about the champagne index, that the high-end wines and champagne, that that is another, you know, very, very clear index. I find the underwear index in Halloween. Alan Greenspan, we're talking about interest rates. What concerns you about the economy? Well, um, you know, the underwear index has really got me bothered. I just can't see Alan Greenspan talking about that.

• 18:00Adam Sosnick?

  You want to know I love you and appreciate you because your two leading indicators were the

• 18:07Adam Sosnick?

  box, cardboard box indicator and the mini snacks.

• 18:10Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 18:11Adam Sosnick?

  And I'm looking at the mini alcohol bottles, bottles and the stripper index. But we meet in the middle at the diaper rash indicator. So that's amazing. PBD, which of these nine do you focus on?

• 18:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I couldn't even tell you. I mean, the, the reality of it is yesterday, we're at the event, Vivent event. And it's the last 15 minutes and everybody starts asking different questions. This one kid asked a question. So Patrick, let me ask you. If you were me, what would you invest in right now? Would it be gold? Would it be commodities? Would it be futures? Would it be stocks? Would it be this? Would it be Ethereum? Would it be, he's asking me all these questions. And I'm like, how old are you? Guy's like 18, 19 years old. I said, how much money did you make last year? He, how long does he take to answer?

• 19:00Speaker 06

  He goes like this.

• 19:00Patrick Bet-David?

  There's 4,000 people in the room, by the way.

• 19:01Speaker 06

  And I'm no joke, he goes 10. That's like 10 what?

• 19:06Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, I made $10,000 last year.

• 19:08Adam Sosnick?

  Living at home.

• 19:09Speaker 06

  And I'm not making fun.

• 19:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I know what.

• 19:11Adam Sosnick?

  19 years old.

• 19:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So I said, you're making $10,000 and you're asking me where to put your money with futures and, you know, crypto and all this stuff. I said, brother, what you need to fix is you have an income problem. You don't have an investment problem. You have an income problem. Let's go fix that income problem that you have. And look, I get it. I was in the army. I got out of the army as an army E4 specialist. I was making 20 grand a year. It's not a lot of money when you're making, you know, you're trying to find a way to increase your income. For people that are watching this, this is what's going on right now.

• 19:41Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to ask yourself if, in what way this is impacting your income? What you're doing to protect yourself from this? You know, some people are kind of going through and then they're feeling it and there's seasons to it that you're going through. So I've always been from the school of thought of having cash. I think the biggest reaction from last night's event was when I told the story about having cash in place for opportunities. There's, there's nothing more evergreen than always making sure you have an emergency fund. Always making sure you have money in place. Always making sure you live below your means. Always make, it's such an evergreen, boring concept to talk about, but it applies to everyone.

• 20:23Patrick Bet-David?

  The more you can do that, like I remember when I was running the insurance company and let's just say we only had a hundred thousand dollars in the bank. Just the first year, we got all the way down to thirteen thousand dollars. The way I would look at a hundred thousand dollars is I have a hundred one thousand, one thousand dollar decisions to make. I have only ten, ten thousand dollar decisions to make. I have only four twenty-five thousand dollar decisions to make. So I'm like, oh, this is kind of scary, right? So if you got ten grand in a bank and you're trying to do your thing with your husband, your wife, your kids, your family. Like dude, I only have ten one thousand dollar decisions to make. I only have fifty two hundred dollar decisions. That's, that's not a lot. So you gotta make sure you do whatever you can to increase your savings.

• 21:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And if it means living below your means and talking to the family about that trip that you were gonna spend four thousand dollars that you shouldn't, don't. Save that money right now while you're going through it. Okay, let me get to the next story here. That twenty dollar burrito you ordered from DoorDash could now cost you seventy dollars. A new DoorDash and Klarna partnership. Rob, do you have a video on this? I do. Watch this one here, folks. This is a little bit, again, it's a, there's a reason why companies like Klarna exist and they're fantastic for the right people. But now doing it for DoorDash when it comes down to ordering burrito? Watch this here.

• 21:42Speaker 00

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• 22:08Speaker 01

  Your sausage McMuffin with egg didn't change, your receipt did. The sausage McMuffin with egg extra value meal includes a hash brown and a small coffee for just $5.00. Only at McDonald's for a limited time.

• 22:20Speaker 02

  Price and participation may vary. Promotion pricing may be lower than meal pricing.

• 22:24Speaker 06

  Theater firm Klarna. This one is landing and partnering up with DoorDash. In the coming months, customers will be able to use Klarna services to purchase groceries, retail, and a Dash Pass annual plan. And customers will have the option to pay for their purchases in full in four equal installments or defer payments to a more convenient time here. Shares right now of DoorDash up by one and a half percent.

• 22:50Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, and you know, I'm not proud to admit this, but I am a Dash Pass member.

• 22:53Speaker 06

  Really?

• 22:54Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, I am.

• 22:55Speaker 06

  How long? Member since?

• 22:56Adam Sosnick?

  For like two years.

• 22:57Patrick Bet-David?

  So we get it. So, but here's the thing. It went from the BNPL model. We've talked about this many, many times. In 2019, the buy now, pay later model, the $2 billion in loans. That's in 2019.

• 23:10Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 23:11Patrick Bet-David?

  It went from $2 billion in 2019 to three years later, ready, to $34 billion in loans. From $2 billion to $34 billion. Rob, what is the total BNPL right now in 2025? Can you see it? BNPL loan, BNPL loans in 2025. Does it tell you? Let's see if it comes up.

• 23:36Speaker 06

  I got one source on 2024, 132.

• 23:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. Wait a minute. That's insane.

• 23:45Speaker 06

  Market experience.

• 23:45Patrick Bet-David?

  According to a report by Fintech Futures, the global, global, but what is it in the US? Global is 560 billion. And then United says the BNPL payments don't go to them.

• 23:55Speaker 06

  So there's 122.

• 23:56Patrick Bet-David?

  122 billion. So.

• 23:57Speaker 06

  Yep, and I got 132. So we're in that zone.

• 23:59Patrick Bet-David?

  In 2019 is 2 billion. 2022, 34 billion. Today, 122 billion. Tom, your thoughts on the story?

• 24:07Speaker 04

  First of all, I think there's a horror going on with that generation. And that is, if you don't have $20 in your checking account, in your bank, so you could use your ATM card connected to Apple Pay, or whatever you connect your DoorDash thing, there's a problem there. There is a serious problem.

• 24:29Speaker 06

  You have an Inco problem.

• 24:30Speaker 04

  That you would actually say, "Clarna." Now, here's what DoorDash wants.

• 24:34Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 24:35Speaker 04

  They want the same thing any other retailer wants. Whether you're selling, it doesn't matter what you're selling. They want more ability to pay so they can maximize customer opportunities.

• 24:44Speaker 06

  For sure.

• 24:45Speaker 04

  To buy from them.

• 24:46Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 24:46Speaker 04

  That's normal. So, DoorDash is like, "Well, we do it this way, this way, this way, this way." You know, "Clarna, okay, come on in." "All right, what's the deal?" And we make a deal with Clarna. The shocking part of it is, the reason they're thinking about making that deal is because what they're looking at. And this is really, and the $20, $70 is not wrong. Because if you miss a payment on BNPL, the fees are heavy. These interest rates are 35% and more. And so, you don't have a little bit in your checking account and you use BNPL to buy dinner?

• 25:20Patrick Bet-David?

  So, the calculation, Rob, the calculation, Tom, on this DoorDash burrito, this guy says, Robert Lawless, University of Illinois Law Professor, specializing in consumer finance, says, "I just don't think it's an advisable way to be paying for your DoorDash. Your $20 burrito could soar to $70 with fees, tips, and potential late charges announced last week." That is insane.

• 25:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, so, late charges are big. And so, two months, you're late on your bill and everything, all of a sudden, you look back at what you paid, it's like, woof. It's like when people run out on Black Friday. How many times have we talked about it? Actually, Adam talks about it when he talks about saving that money. If you go out on Black Friday and buy that TV on sale with a 27% credit card, and then take six months to pay for the TV, the TV's no longer on sale.

• 26:13Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 26:14Speaker 04

  You just paid all that interest.

• 26:15Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 26:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, thoughts?

• 26:17Adam Sosnick?

  Well, the, I don't know if it's the buy now, pay later thing, or if it's just putting on a credit card, it's just understanding that whatever you're spending, that you're putting on a, I'll pay it off later, is going to cost you significantly more than just paying for it in cash. It's a $20 burrito. Can we just talk about the fact that burritos are now $20? Okay, that's, uh, what they call it shrinkflation that Joe Biden talked about? This is the exact opposite of that.

• 26:41Patrick Bet-David?

  $20 a burrito.

• 26:42Adam Sosnick?

  It's a big deal.

• 26:43Speaker 06

  That's three burritos.

• 26:44Adam Sosnick?

  There you go. But this is what I would call death by a thousand bites. Everyone, everyone out there, while they're doing their budget, here's an example of a budget. Everyone has your big three expenses that I talk about all the time, especially on Monek, to a lot of my Monekters out there. Your biggest three expenses are your housing, which should take at most 30% of your income. Number two, your transportation, which should be as much as you can below 20% of your total gross income. But then the third one is your F and B, your food and beverage, which you should try to keep between 10 to 15% of your budget. So what happens to your budget when a $20 burrito, after you put it on DoorDash or buy now, pay later, you pay the interest, you're

• 27:28Adam Sosnick?

  paying the minimum on your credit card, next thing you know, your $20 burrito just costs you 70 bucks. But then that's over and over and over again, because what I've noticed is when people do this, they don't do it once in a while, they do it for every meal. They're DoorDashing, they're Uber Eatsing, they're putting on a credit card, and now the average credit card in America, the average American, I think, owes $7,000 on a credit card. How much of that is a burrito? How much of that is drinks at the bar? How much of that is just going out and having a good time, and you don't realize that the 100 bucks you spent is actually going to cost you 500 in the end? So do better with your money, because it's going to cost you in the end.

• 28:08Patrick Bet-David?

  What is this, Rob? So the total credit card debt in 2020, end of 2024 was 1.2 trillion. I remember that. The average credit card household, 11K. The average credit card balance per person, 67.30 by the end of it. By the way, this makes me think about the one story that, uh, you know, with all the damages that they're doing to Tesla vehicles?

• 28:27Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, of course.

• 28:28Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, the, uh, all the stuff that's...

• 28:30Adam Sosnick?

  Vandalization, burning.

• 28:31Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what it's doing, though? There was even a clip, Rob. Did you see this? Fox News reached out about this one guy who, I don't know if you guys saw this or not, absolutely disrespectful what this guy did.

• 28:43Speaker 06

  Probably one of the worst vandalizations.

• 28:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know which one I'm talking about, Rob, or no?

• 28:46Speaker 06

  I don't.

• 28:47Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, the guy near the airport?

• 28:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 28:49Adam Sosnick?

  The guy near the airport?

• 28:50Patrick Bet-David?

  So this guy is by the airport. And, you know, he's at the airport. He sees this Tesla. He gets out of the Tesla. Can you, can you just make it bigger, Rob?

• 29:02Speaker 06

  This is the most disrespectful.

• 29:04Adam Sosnick?

  And he thought he wasn't gonna get caught.

• 29:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this. Watch this, folks. What he does to this Tesla.

• 29:07Speaker 06

  I don't think I can watch this, dude. Like, what an idiot liberal. Look.

• 29:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So what is he doing? He's keying the car?

• 29:13Speaker 06

  He's keying the car. He's riding F. Elana.

• 29:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Irresponsible with the car in the back. It's going.

• 29:19Speaker 06

  He doesn't put it in park like an idiot.

• 29:20Adam Sosnick?

  What's he doing right there?

• 29:21Patrick Bet-David?

  No, don't do that. Stop, Rob. Stop.

• 29:23Speaker 06

  What is this guy doing? Why is he doing that?

• 29:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop it right there, Rob. Stop it right there, Rob.

• 29:27Speaker 06

  He realizes that it's...

• 29:28Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, my God.

• 29:29Speaker 06

  What a loser. Anybody that's damaging...

• 29:33Adam Sosnick?

  Great physique, though.

• 29:33Speaker 06

  Oh, no, he definitely does squats. He works out.

• 29:36Patrick Bet-David?

  But I want you to think about this. As crazy as this is, and by the way, this is a regular... Let me tell you, while this is happening, we're having business meetings. And somebody's watching out the window saying, "What the hell happens on this campus?", right? I got a guy the other day comes, it's a very serious conversation about a whistleblower. Vinnie's walking around, running in a dress and a spandex. I don't know what it was you wore. That polyester shirt.

• 30:01Speaker 06

  Yeah, I was doing a truck.

• 30:02Patrick Bet-David?

  But here's the one thing, Rob, that you were talking about. You have a Tesla yourself, Rob?

• 30:06Speaker 06

  I do.

• 30:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. What have you noticed with the cost of insurance for Tesla lately?

• 30:10Speaker 06

  So my six-month premium came up this week, and I had to re-sign with my auto insurer. And my auto insurance went, without any accidents, without any tickets, without adding any new vehicles, we went from $350 a month for four different vehicles. Yeah, I have two Jeeps, a camper van. Those are all 70, 70, and 90. So in total, I'm paying, what was it, $230 for those vehicles? And then on top of that, I was paying an additional $120 for my Tesla each year.

• 30:39Speaker 04

  Month, all of a sudden, I got the new six month premium. It went from 350 a month to 460 a month for all four vehicles. The only thing I can think of is that my Tesla is costing more because the other vehicles haven't. It's a 2012 Jeep, a 2008 Jeep and a 1997 Dodge camper van. It's not like State Farm is trying to milk me on the cost for this. So the only vehicle that we have that could see that price increase was the Tesla.

• 31:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's interesting. And what does the story say here? Tesla insurance costs could surge. Can you go a little bit lower to see what it's saying? Uh, so Musk rejected criticism on X formula that he owns, posted contracts in like left this. Okay, so he's suing somebody that keeps calling him that, the Bowman guy, right?

• 31:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, Jamal Bowman.

• 31:22Patrick Bet-David?

  He's claiming, he's saying threatening that he may sue, but can you go down to see if there's any data here? So how much does it cost to insure? Okay, so with a price tag of $35,000 for its cheapest car uh, on the market, insurance to cover them already expensive more than other cars go a little bit lower. So the average cost of full coverage for an insurance, for a car insurance for a Tesla Model 3 is 3,495 a year. That seems like a lot. So that's, that's 280 a month. Okay, according to bank rate, uh, that is about $800 more per year than the national average of 2678 for Toyota Camry, according to bank rate. However, Model X and Play drivers pay much higher rates.

• 32:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Comparatively, average BMW i4 insurance costs are closer to Model 3 3792. In general, EVs are now 23% more expensive to insure than comparable to a gas model. Why would that be the case though? With an average annual uh, full coverage of 33 for 23% more time. Tesla Model 3, Model Y, Model X are more expensive EVs to insure in February 2020. Confirmed the cost of full insurance for Tesla Model 3, according to Insurefy, increased 30% last year to 4362. This is a 25% higher in cost than the comparable Mercedes Benz A-Class, the average cost of a full coverage. So to me, Rob, can you type in Tesla cost of insurance and go to news?

• 32:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Just type in Tesla on Google, Tesla cost of insurance. And news and and can you go to news and zoom in a little bit? Okay, so three weeks ago, our team is a Tesla three point five hundred. It's like a porn industry reputation. Okay, Tesla insurance has been pricey. Will vandalism make it higher? That's a what? That's a CNN story. Can you click on that three days ago? Can we just see what stats they're giving in there? Zoom in to see if you see any numbers. Ba ba ba ba ba thirteen hundred and a damaged Tesla could cost thirteen hundred dollars more to repair than a gasoline powered car, according to Insurefy. Why, though? Because we read those numbers. Full size Model XS SUV is fifty four, fifty nine. Got it. Go a little out of the fifty most popular cars in the United States. The top four most expensive to ensure. What?

• 33:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you know that? Tom, did you know that or no?

• 33:32Adam Sosnick?

  I did not know. I'm just reading this here. This is before all this started. The top four most expensive cars to insure were Teslas.

• 33:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Out of the fifty most popular cars in the U.S. The top four most popular to insure are Teslas. So premiums could go up if there are more claims for vandalism. However, it take a lot more than vandalism incidents to get to the point of having to insure. Tonight, right now, the incidents are sporadic and anecdotal with documented vandalism in Pacific Coast, Northeast. But drivers on car insurance. Okay, go back. Go back to the news, Rob. Let's see what else we got. K R XI Tesla vandalism and raised questions about insurance rates. That's how long ago? Twelve hours ago. Let's go on that to see if they have any kind of studies or rates that they're showing. Zoom in a little bit. Okay, ba ba ba ba ba. Because you know, we're getting a five hundred dollar every six months premium. And we're paying out of twenty thousand dollars on one of our two cars. It could go a little bit lower.

• 34:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Go a little bit lower to see. Just look for now. Okay, nothing here. Let's go to the next story. So economic finance a day ago. Do you own a Tesla? Your insurance rate could spike as vandals target cars across the U.S. Go a little lower. Go a little lower on some of the Tesla owners. Uh, go a little lower. Okay, I was that premium.

• 34:42Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 34:43Patrick Bet-David?

  So vehicles, somebody got some vehicle to insure with the Model 3, seen a 30, okay. Same thing as we read in the other one. Okay. So can you, to be fair, can you type in on chat GPT, see if this will come up? How many reported Tesla, you know, what do you call it? Vandalism stats have we seen? You know, is there a number like police report in a certain sector? Like you remember they were stealing that one car in certain counties of LA? And so the insurance specifically for that car went up only in that one county? Do you guys remember the car on?

• 35:15Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 35:16Patrick Bet-David?

  He made a video on how to steal those cars?

• 35:19Speaker 06

  Yeah, I remember.

• 35:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was Hyundai and Kia.

• 35:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Kia or something like that, yeah.

• 35:23Speaker 04

  And Sonata and Soul and Forte were criticized by the American Insurance Institute because of the ease in which it can be broken in and stolen.

• 35:32Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what it was. And this guy made a video on TikTok on how to steal those cars. So Austin, Texas, one. Nevada, Las Vegas. Multiple Tesla vehicles were set on fire. There was a Tesla showroom. Salem, January 25 local Tesla, local Tesla stores, multiple attacks. Molotov cocktails. Boston, Massachusetts, seven Tesla charging stations were set on fire. Seattle, Washington, four Tesla CyberTrax were at Blaze. A 33 year old man arrested, deliberately crashing. Okay, so it's not yet a massive number to make a difference, but it is definitely something to be thinking about. Tom, your thoughts on the story?

• 36:09Speaker 04

  Well, those, the Hyundai and Kia, the Insurance Institute was saying, hey, these things are so easy to sell, to steal, that what we're about to do is innocent, middle-class Americans that are buying those because they think it's an economical car on gas and it's small and all that. They're about to find out that there are going to be more to insure. So what they were saying is the long-term condition was about to lead to the increase in insurance. And we saw the guy, as you pointed out on YouTube, saying these are easy to steal. And the Hyundai and Kia better do something about it. Boom. Now, this is a short-term condition. And so the question is, and by the way, here we go again. You know, if every one of the...

• 36:52Speaker 04

  Headlines that you see about Tesla or about Trump, the economy, look for the could and should, because everybody's in this could and should game. So if there's a long-term condition here, I think they would raise the rates, but they gotta get control of this. Pam Bondi is saying, "Oh, you wanna do this? I will label you a domestic terrorist." You don't want that. You don't wanna light a car on fire and get labeled as a

• 37:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Has anybody yet gotten arrested, like, and suffered real severe consequences?

• 37:19Speaker 06

  I remember one-

• 37:20Speaker 04

  I think there's been one guy, the answer is yes, so far, and I haven't seen any legislation come down, but Pam Bondi has said several times, has she not, Rob, over the last, like, two weeks- Oh, yeah, yes. "You will be charged with domestic terrorism. You don't want that, because that's a federal felony."

• 37:38Speaker 06

  Well, it is terrorism, because they're doing it for a political motive. That's what it is. It's all against Trump. And I can't, like, this pisses me off beyond belief, because, and even Elon Musk has accused, you guys know who he's accusing. Guys, this is obviously the left. Our side doesn't do stupid shit like this, okay? Sorry for my language. We don't, we don't do this, okay? He's blamed George Soros, and he's pointing at Reid Hoffman, saying that they're funding these protests, okay? And then you have people on Late Night, all these Late Night hosts, Tim Walz, Jasmine Crockett, they're all dog whistling. They're all saying it without saying it, and then when they get caught, Tim Walz is like, "No, no, I'm just joking. Republicans don't have a sense of humor." No, no, you know exactly what the hell they're doing. You know what you're doing. And then

• 38:22Speaker 06

  yesterday in the car, when I asked you, "Yeah, what are the Republicans gonna do?" I wanna know what, I'm not saying be violent, at all, I'm not saying that at all, but, are you guys just sitting on your hands? Like, I mean, and I wouldn't say go do anything violent, but it's not like, you know, Republicans are going out and damaging things that the left likes, like sex shops, and, you know, tampon dispensers in bathrooms. They're not, you know what I mean?

• 38:45Speaker 04

  To Pat's point, I wanna see Pam Bondi put her signature on a piece of paper, and I wanna see two of these people, because we've caught some of them, get arrested and charged with federal felony for the arsonist domestic terrorist. Guess what? When you increase the penalty round, things change.

• 39:01Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, this is what AOC yesterday was approached by Fox News reporter, asking about vandalism on Teslas, and this was her response. Go for it, Rob.

• 39:10Speaker 00

  People so upset when they see a Tesla in the parking lot. Yeah, I can't comment to that, you know, in terms of public sentiment. But do you think Democrats are to blame for why people are so triggered by this? No, absolutely. Because what your rally is saying, not you particularly, but your colleagues saying, "F Elon Musk" and using other words, profane words to describe him, does that rile people up, your supporters, to take action on their own? I don't know, you know, I think about, I think about Republicans calling me a communist and Republicans saying that I hate this country.

• 39:43Speaker 06

  Yeah, are they firebombing your house? Are they throwing Molotov cocktails at your house, you dummy?

• 39:47Speaker 04

  Look how uncomfortable she was with that. Look at her blink rate, look at her mannerisms. She was nervous and uncomfortable. She didn't want to answer that question.

• 39:53Speaker 06

  And as a Congresswoman, a United States Congresswoman, you take that moment and say, "Listen, I condemn any type of violence that is happening against us in the Super Bowl." You know what? When you're out there calling the guy Hitler, when you're calling people Hitler guys, and this drives me crazy, and it like, there has to be somebody to stop it, it's gonna be Pam.

• 40:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And we're not attacking Tesla. Can you find that thing about Elon making threats that he's gonna be suing Bowman if they keep continuing talking like this? Adam, thoughts?

• 40:17Adam Sosnick?

  So are we talking about Tesla specifically?

• 40:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Specifically Tesla Insurance, yes.

• 40:22Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so, you know, you know the phrase, "Don't cut off your nose to spite your face." Did you hear Tim Walz the other day get up on stage and basically root for Tesla's stock to go down in Tesla's demise? And then, I think it was Kevin O'Leary who pointed out, "Hey, guy, you're the governor of Minnesota. Do you know that you guys have Tesla in your retirement fund portfolio? Millions of Minnesotans are relying on the stock market to go up, Tesla being a decent part of your portfolio. So what are you saying? Are you rooting for all your retirees, for all your constituents, for their portfolio to go down? Walk me through the logic here." You know, so also...

• 41:07Adam Sosnick?

  How many jobs does Elon Musk and Tesla create? Hundreds of thousands within America.

• 41:12Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 41:12Adam Sosnick?

  Are you rooting for people to lose their jobs? Because what happens when a company starts losing money? They're gonna start making cuts and people are gonna start losing jobs. So all because of blind hatred for this one guy, Elon Musk, who was the darling of the green energy left not too long ago, just because he literally backed up Trump and helped him win the election. Now you think that it's okay to not only root for his stock to go down, root for the company to go down, root for retirement funds to go down, root for people to lose their jobs? And then also totally be okay with vandalism? This is ridiculous.

• 41:50Speaker 06

  And that's why I'm...

• 41:50Speaker 04

  Which isn't against Musk. It's against citizens' private property.

• 41:55Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly.

• 41:55Speaker 06

  And then just real quick, and that's why on Tuesday, when you're talking about Vinnie, the enemy? That's the enemy, Adam. The people that are destroying, bro, people's lives. You're a family, you're a Democrat, you have a family and you have a Cybertruck. And then you have these psychos throwing Molotov cocktails and shit like that. And I've been seeing them pull up the cars with families in them, verbally attacking, dude, getting out of the vehicle to try to... You're the enemy, period.

• 42:20Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I think what you're saying is those particular people...

• 42:23Speaker 06

  Yeah, but it's the left, it's the left, Adam. Come on, man.

• 42:26Adam Sosnick?

  The problem is 80 million people aren't your enemy. That's a whole nother discussion.

• 42:30Speaker 06

  I didn't say all of them are, but guess what? If your party is doing this, if your party is saying, "This guy is Hitler," and this party is saying, "Hey, look at the stock is dropping," and then the late night hosts, that are all paid for, they're all on the same freaking group. They go, "Hey, don't..." What was it, Kimmel, Robbie? They're like, "Hey, don't vandalize Tesla." That's a dog whistle.

• 42:49Adam Sosnick?

  Wink, wink.

• 42:50Speaker 06

  And you're a freaking enemy, period, Adam.

• 42:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Pull that clip up, Rob, pull that clip up. I actually want to see that "don't," the "don't."

• 42:55Speaker 06

  Yeah. This one, right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 42:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see that.

• 42:58Adam Sosnick?

  ... down other than the stock market for a change. Our co-president Elon Musk sent a SpaceX vehicle to bring the astronauts back. And when they landed, he fired them immediately upon landing. Tesla's stock is way down, almost disastrously so. People... Look at this, look at that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People have been... You idiots. Vandalizing Tesla vehicles, new Tesla vehicles, please...

• 43:23Speaker 06

  Don't vandalize, don't ever vandalize Tesla vehicles. And so. Yeah, okay. No, no, he didn't.

• 43:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait a minute, wait a minute.

• 43:32Speaker 06

  What does that mean to you?

• 43:34Patrick Bet-David?

  So.

• 43:35Speaker 06

  What is that?

• 43:36Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, but, but wait, wait a minute.

• 43:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that, is that legal to say that?

• 43:42Speaker 06

  I don't know. That's, because that's innuendo. He's saying.

• 43:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you say that?

• 43:46Speaker 06

  He's saying, don't do it. Pausing, that pause, you know what that says? Do it.

• 43:50Speaker 04

  One more time, Rob. There are laws in America about inciting civil disobedient, inciting riots. Now, could you draw the line so clearly there that you could?

• 44:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back to it again, Rob, one more time.

• 44:02Speaker 04

  Come after him? I don't know.

• 44:04Speaker 06

  Vandalizing Tesla vehicles, new Tesla vehicles, please don't vandalize, don't ever vandalize Tesla vehicles. And so. Oh, funny, funny.

• 44:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Was it a pause?

• 44:16Speaker 06

  Yeah, that, that pause does, go for it.

• 44:18Patrick Bet-David?

  No problem with that. Rob, go to, what's the other one that you have? There was a.

• 44:22Speaker 06

  Jamal Bowman and I have Tim Walz as well.

• 44:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to the Jamal Bowman one, if you could.

• 44:25Speaker 06

  Sure.

• 44:29Adam Sosnick?

  That's not true. And this shows again, the American people do not trust Elon Musk. And Elon Musk is incompetent in his position. And how do we know? Because they fired tens of thousands of people, was challenged in court. The court said the people have to go back and now the people are coming back. He's incompetent, he's a thief, he's a Nazi, and people don't trust him.

• 44:52Speaker 06

  Boom.

• 44:53Adam Sosnick?

  Period. Let, let me just. Isn't this the guy that literally just got fired in New York? Because he's quote unquote incompetent and didn't do his job, AKA didn't get reelected? I, I find it so amazing how people who have done next to nothing in their life are criticizing someone who has done so much.

• 45:11Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 45:12Adam Sosnick?

  For society and for workers and for Americans and the world. Yet you feel like you can condemn someone because you have a different political opinion. It's very enraging.

• 45:22Speaker 06

  And why, Alan? Because, because he supports a guy that loves this country and these scumbags hate the country. And this is Jamal Bowman, the Democrat congressman that you said from New York, that pulled a fire alarm in the Cannon House office building in September 2003 and was fined for money. And he was like, I never did it. You guys are, are saying, yeah, that, I, I don't like that guy at all.

• 45:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Rob, so, so to me, that, that, that. You can't do that. You can't get up there and get people to rally against somebody to hurt a business or an individual. That can't be legal to do, let alone the late night show host that's got the main late night show. It's, it's, I don't know. I think the, I'm gonna go to the next story. I think the administration's gotta do something about this year when you're looking at these types of things being said. Let me get to the next story. NASA says Trump is responsible for stranded astronauts saga ending. It would have not happened. Okay. It would have not happened. And guess who came and bailed these guys out? Now, this is NASA saying it. NASA

• 46:24Patrick Bet-David?

  credits Trump for the return of the astronauts, Suni and Barry Wilmore, who were stranded on the International Space Station for over nine months instead of their planned eight days. They're going out there planning on being there for eight days. They're there for nine months. Due to issues with Boeing Starliner, with the spokeswoman Bethany, telling Fox News, it would not have happened without President Trump's intervention. And Acting Administrator Janet Petro adding, per President Trump's direction, is this it, Rob, the clip?

• 46:54Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 46:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it. Play the clip. Good to have Butch, Suni, and Nick all home after an extended stay in space. And you are absolutely

• 47:01Adam Sosnick?

  right. This was a huge win for the Trump administration and would not have happened without President Trump's intervention. Up next-

• 47:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, thoughts?

• 47:10Speaker 04

  So, let's, let's unpack this. I'm gonna unpack this really, really fast. NASA works with its counterpart in Russia to maintain their central space station. People come up there and do experiments for a long time, then they come back. Boeing was contracted by NASA to use their Starliner to take astronauts up, do some experiments, and bring them back. The Starliner was showing so many defects and faults that they couldn't certify it. And what they didn't want to have happen is these two astronauts get in it and then have it come back. And remember, we've, we've had, we had a space shuttle that broke up over Texas because of a flaw. And when it tried to re-enter, it was terrible and we lost all those astronauts. So Boeing said, I wanna-

• 47:55Speaker 04

  Bring this starliner back empty and we'll test it. It came back. Fortunately, it didn't burn up, so they could have brought them back. But Boeing kind of did the right thing. Saying, we're not sure and we don't want to put human astronauts at risk. Let's bring it back. At that moment, now they're stuck and they're asking NASA, what do we do about it? And Boeing was saying, well, we got to do a bunch of research and we got to fix starliner before we could go up and get them. And that is when during the Biden administration, Elon said, well, we're going to be up in the area, putting up satellites and stuff. Maybe we'll just swing by and give your guys a ride home. I'm not joking there. That literally was the message is like, hey, we got missions all the time. We can do this and bring them back. And they said, no, there's plenty of resources, translation, food, water, and you know, carbon

• 48:40Speaker 04

  dioxide filters and conversion to oxygen, all those things that are on the space station. Everything's okay. They've got enough. Months go by, months go by, but what was going on right there? The Biden administration did not want to give Elon Musk the win. And so the Biden administration just said, well, if there's enough resource and their excuse was, there's plenty of resources up there, they can stay up there. However, we've now know that long, long, long term in zero gravity, your body deteriorates, your muscles atrophy. And so, you know, after so many months, we've been regularly, us Russians and Chinese, others that are on the international space station, bring the people back. And they didn't.

• 49:23Speaker 04

  And the Biden administration did not want to give Elon Musk the win. And so one of the first things that happens after the inauguration is they're like, start planning now to bring our American astronauts that all the scientists and health experts on astronauts in space have said, you need to bring them back down into gravity and we need to take care of them. They've been up there a hell of a long time. That's what happened. And so guess what?

• 49:52Speaker 04

  Trump calls Elon. Elon did what he said he could have done under the Biden administration. And what's annoying to me, Pat, is that the Biden administration didn't do the right thing for our own astronauts because they didn't want to give the win to Elon Musk during the election.

• 50:07Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. Adam, thoughts?

• 50:09Adam Sosnick?

  So here's a problem that I'm noticing in America, and it's not anything new. It's the inability to appreciate the other side when they do something good. Both sides do this. It's the inability to say, hey, man, you know what? I don't agree with you, but great job on this. It's the inability to basically recognize that both sides do good and bad things. So instead of rooting against the other team, here's a simple suggestion. Just root for America. Root for good things to happen to America. You want the economy to do good. You want the border to maybe be closed down. You want good things to happen. Do you remember in Congress during the speech that Trump gave? They said, hey, guys, a round of applause for this kid that just beat cancer.

• 50:55Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, my God. And the Democrats sat there like, guys, this isn't a bipartisan issue. The kid beat cancer. Stand up and applause and shut your mouth. Be an American. So it's the people that are rooting for Elon Musk's Teslas to be ruined. It's the people who are rooting, this kid right here. It's the people who are rooting for the economy to go down. Newsflash, if the economy goes down, you're going to suffer also. So it's the definition of cutting off your nose despite your face. Root for America. When the other team does something good, appreciate it. And then fight the fight that you want to win. But also when the other team does something well, congratulate them. That's a true American.

• 51:35Speaker 06

  Let me ask you a question, Adam, and I'm being genuinely inquisitive. Do you think if the roles were reversed on this night? On the night when Trump did this with this freaking amazing kid? That was honored as a freaking Secret Service member? If, which I don't think the left would ever bring, I don't think they do this type of stuff. But you think the Republicans would have stood up and clapped for that kid?

• 51:56Adam Sosnick?

  I would hope so, but I've seen ugliness on both sides.

• 52:00Speaker 06

  But I don't think that side is that. Evil, as I've said, that not to stand like not one person on that side stood up and clapped for this kid, or even Rakin, uh, Lake and Riley's family, or any of that. Okay. And it's like, it, it, it drives me crazy. And then when you're saying, Adam, the other side, when the other side does something good, we should celebrate it and we should clap. What has the other side done that's good? I'm, I'm genuinely being like this guy. What did they do just in the past four years that would have made us, because you know, I would have done that if they did something good, I would have been like, yo, wow, hats off. I can't think of anything. Everything that they did was to try to destroy this freaking country. All of them. Okay. And when you talk about, uh, the Elon story,

• 52:44Speaker 06

  uh, Tom, it's insane that these two people were literally left to die because the other side, the Biden administration, all these people, the hate for Elon because he supported Donald Trump. And I'm telling you guys right now, and then people keep saying Elon's the richest man in the world. No, he's not. There's Saudi guys like, uh, there's people that are out there that we don't even know that are on-

• 53:06Adam Sosnick?

  Elon Musk is the richest man in the world. Saudi Aramco is a true trillion dollar market cap company. That's a country. That's a company.

• 53:12Speaker 06

  But what about like, Vladimir Putin? Vladimir Putin's how rich, do you think? He owns Russia. I, I would beg to differ. The richest man in the world. But what my point is, choose your enemies wisely, Pat. That's the worst enemy that they could have picked is Elon Musk. Cause they're starting a freaking fight with a guy that's not gonna stop. So good luck.

• 53:32Speaker 04

  And I think we have to be fair about something. You just said Biden left them to die. I don't think he left them to die. I think that's all strong. But they were supposed to be up there for eight days.

• 53:40Speaker 06

  And how long were they there?

• 53:41Speaker 04

  They were up there for nine months.

• 53:42Speaker 06

  Okay. That to me is like, Tom, something horrible could have happened to them.

• 53:45Speaker 04

  But it was on the national space station. They had water, they had food, they had the, the resources up there. But what happened to their bodies over those nine months?

• 53:51Speaker 06

  Look, Tom, to me, that, that, you're leaving me to die, bro. Her chin started protruding because she has no freaking gravity.

• 53:58Adam Sosnick?

  That's almost as bad as what happened to Rosie O'Donnell after she got TDS in your video the other day.

• 54:02Speaker 06

  But that's, come on, that's your, you, you're leaving me stranded. God forbid something bad happens to me.

• 54:06Adam Sosnick?

  Nine months they were up there time?

• 54:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know this lady. I have no idea who she is. But, you know, it's tough to act when you're in a bad mood or good mood.

• 54:16Speaker 06

  She's smiling.

• 54:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Spirits.

• 54:18Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 54:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know who this person is, but she seems like she's... Because when you're there eight days, like, imagine how claustrophobic, if you're claustrophobic.

• 54:26Speaker 06

  I am.

• 54:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Then imagine if you're going somewhere, you're like, you're... You're stuck in the elevator for seven seconds. You're going from floor two to six. And then all of a sudden, you're... One time, we're looking at this property in Miami.

• 54:38Speaker 06

  You got...

• 54:39Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no. We're going and looking at this property in Miami. The lady who's the salesperson selling us the property. We get in the elevator. Dylan's with me, Senna's with me, Jen's with me, and our events crew. We're in the elevator, the elevator gets stuck. Guess who's panicking?

• 54:59Speaker 06

  Her?

• 54:59Patrick Bet-David?

  The lady working at the place.

• 55:01Speaker 06

  Oh, man.

• 55:02Patrick Bet-David?

  She starts hyperventilating. Dylan starts getting nervous.

• 55:05Speaker 06

  Oh, no.

• 55:06Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a couple to our right that are there because they're having a good time and they love the podcast. Senna's looking at mom, what's going on, so I gotta pick them up, but she is full-blown losing her mind, right? And that was for ten minutes.

• 55:20Speaker 06

  Oh, my god.

• 55:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Five minutes. Imagine. Guess what? What? You're gonna be here for nine months.

• 55:26Speaker 06

  Nine months.

• 55:27Patrick Bet-David?

  What would you do? Like, did you not lose your shit?

• 55:29Speaker 06

  With one person that you don't, you don't really know, you know them, but that's gonna be your roommate for nine months?

• 55:35Adam Sosnick?

  I know how much you love heights.

• 55:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 55:37Adam Sosnick?

  So if you were stuck up there in space, I mean, do you think you would lose?

• 55:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll go to the edge of the balcony and look down, a beautiful view of Miami and enjoy. You're skydiving, me and Vinnie would do it left and right. That's our specialty, for sure. I look forward to doing that. Okay, so let's see what we got here. This next one here, Trump administration ends taxpayer-funded housing program. Four illegals, okay? Why we had it in the first place, who the hell knows? So Trump's team, led by HUD Secretary Scott Turner and DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, axed housing aid for illegal aliens. Rob, is this a video? Yes. Go for it, play the video.

• 56:13Adam Sosnick?

  Hey, this is Scott Turner. I'm here today with my dear friend and colleague, Secretary Kristi Noem, and we're here signing the partnership to ensure that the wasteful misappropriations that have been going to assist illegal aliens in our country will no longer go to assist them, but instead to assist the American people, in particular as it pertains to housing. We have a housing affordability crisis in our country, and so today we are ensuring that American taxpayer dollars are used to assist the American people. Unfortunately, under the Biden administration, they prioritized illegal aliens over American families. And so this memorandum is going to be a partnership that we will form to

• 56:56Adam Sosnick?

  make sure that these housing programs are going to only people who deserve it, people who are in this country that need assistance, that want a better life for their families. So, thank you for being here today. Thank you. This is a wonderful partnership between departments to do what we can to make sure we follow through on President Trump's promise to the American people. So, with that, I will sign for the Department of Homeland Security.

• 57:19Speaker 00

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• 58:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Compatibility and availability varies 18 plus.

• 58:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Good. Awesome, Rob. Let me read this. What a difference, huh? So, a 2023 study by the Center for Immigration Studies found nearly 60% of households headed by illegal aliens are on at least one major form of taxpayer-funded welfare. Okay, Tom, thoughts on this? How big is this?

• 58:36Speaker 04

  This is very, very big because, believe it or not, these programs, what we don't see is who they're actually helping. There are a lot of veterans that are helped by these programs. There are a lot of American citizens that, like in Western North Carolina, when things happen, that get help. It's not just FEMA. FEMA can help you rebuild your house, but there's also programs in there that are trying to help people who need it. And if we're taking off the supplemental voter program, I'm sorry, the illegal aliens, then I think that's a good thing. The money gets routed back to, you know, Americans who do it. And I'll say something else here. Kristi Noem, you give her a report card over the first 60 days here,

• 59:19Speaker 04

  it's pretty strong, you know, redirecting the Coast Guard into the Gulf of America, and the huge drug bust in Fort Lauderdale. Kristi Noem is really, to me, guess what? A governor. And governors, we have 51 CEOs in America. There are governors and the president. And I feel like she's been acting as a really good, acting very well and has a great report card for me. But I love to see this because Americans who live here and pay taxes and find themselves at the crossroads in life that get support from a program like this, this is what the program is about. Not to say, hey, keep coming across, keep coming across. I got a place for you. Here's your government cheese.

• 1:00:03Speaker 04

  Here's your free cellphone. Here's all these things we give you to get the immigrants on their feet when you've got loss of manufacturing jobs and, you know, hurricanes that were in Western North Carolina and all these places where real Americans needed the support. Thank you Scott Turner, thank you Kristi Noem.

• 1:00:20Speaker 06

  Oh, and just going off of this one, like the fact that we have to have the director of Homeland Security say, "We're not gonna let your money go to illegals that are not supposed, that don't belong in the country," is absurd. Did you see this video? By the way, she was at the border, she's everywhere. Compare her to Alejandro Mayorkas. She's at the El Salvador, the prison.

• 1:00:42Speaker 04

  Remember the giant MS-13 roundup, El Salvador prison? She's there saying, "If you don't, if you wanna mess with us, you're gonna be down here, right behind me."

• 1:00:52Speaker 06

  With a bunch of guys, yeah.

• 1:00:54Adam Sosnick?

  I'm here at C-COT today and visiting this facility. And first of all, I want to thank El Salvador and their president for their partnership with the United States of America to bring our terrorists here and to incarcerate them and have consequences for the violence that they have perpetuated in our communities. I also want everybody to know, if you come to our country illegally, this is one of the consequences you could face. First of all, do not come to our country illegally. You will be removed and you will be prosecuted. But know that this facility is one of the tools in our toolkit that we will use if you commit crimes against the American people.

• 1:01:26Speaker 06

  How gangsterish. By the way, all those guys, that is some scary, all those guys are just looking at the back of their head.

• 1:01:32Speaker 04

  You don't see the guys off to the side with the machine guns, right?

• 1:01:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, of course. Oh, it's crazy.

• 1:01:34Speaker 04

  These guys are pretty, all those kindergartners were very quiet, standing in line. Look at that.

• 1:01:40Speaker 06

  But what a difference of one, one side that's like, "No, open the border, let everybody come in. You have to pay for all these people to live. Give them credit cards." When they punch New York police officers in the face, they walk out of jail the next day, they raise their middle fingers. What a freaking difference from four years to this year's. Like, and what was the goal? What was the goal of Alejandro Mayorkas? What is the goal of leaving the border wide open? The invasion that Trump said to Jim Acosta, when he's like, "It's an invasion." Jim Acosta's like, "No, it's just a migrant. No, they're just walking here and..." Yeah, yeah, okay. This is real leadership and she's a freaking boss and I'm actually, I'm ecstatic that we have her in.

• 1:02:17Speaker 04

  Adam. I don't know, guys. I'm really disappointed in Trump and Kristi Noem here. How dare you?

• 1:02:25Adam Sosnick?

  Prioritize citizens of America over the illegals. How dare you?

• 1:02:28Speaker 06

  I know.

• 1:02:29Adam Sosnick?

  How dare you stop paying rent for illegals? How dare you stop giving credit cards to illegals and debit cards?

• 1:02:36Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:02:36Adam Sosnick?

  How dare you stop housing illegals and prioritizing newcomers to America over our citizens? People from all over the world, we all know this, Finney.

• 1:02:47Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:02:48Adam Sosnick?

  Come before our citizens.

• 1:02:49Speaker 06

  Of course, of course.

• 1:02:51Adam Sosnick?

  Globalism is coming to America and how dare Trump stop that?

• 1:02:54Speaker 06

  Unbelievable.

• 1:02:55Adam Sosnick?

  And he puts this beautiful woman named Kristi Noem to put lipstick on a pig of this open border drama that's going on here. We all know we need people pouring through the border.

• 1:03:05Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:03:05Adam Sosnick?

  We all know this. Trump, how dare you? Put America first. Do better, Donald Trump. Do better.

• 1:03:12Speaker 06

  He's gonna get that mess up.

• 1:03:15Adam Sosnick?

  Let's go. Well, you know that there's the welfare state that we've been very critical on?

• 1:03:19Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:03:19Adam Sosnick?

  That I think expanded under LBJ? Here's a new term, the illegal welfare state.

• 1:03:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:03:26Adam Sosnick?

  The welfare state has been out of control, whether it's food stamps, whether it's housing. It encourages people to have children because you get, you know, rewards for basically, you always talked about the...

• 1:03:36Speaker 06

  Get that check.

• 1:03:37Adam Sosnick?

  Get that check, save that money. Now it's the illegal welfare state where you don't even need to be a citizen to be taken care of.

• 1:03:44Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, she continues, Kristi Noem reveals plan to eliminate FEMA. Rob, do you have that one?

• 1:03:50Speaker 06

  I do.

• 1:03:50Patrick Bet-David?

  So imagine how much problems we've had with FEMA the last few years, right? She announced elimination at Trump's cabinet meeting and she boasted, we are in a month of March, the last couple of weeks, is this the one, Rob?

• 1:04:02Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:04:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:04:05Adam Sosnick?

  I want to thank the Secretary of Defense and the Navy for all of their help and partnerships. We do operations together because they're obvious, Navy warships are in certain regions, but our cutters are faster and can work together in a partnership that's securing America. So, and we're gonna eliminate FEMA. So, we've got a lot, a lot to do, but it's all good and we're working hard and we're gonna... Make sure that we're continuing to do exactly what you promised.

• 1:04:30Patrick Bet-David?

  In a month of March, the last couple of weeks increased our deportations by 50%. We have broken historic records in the amount of drug. In her, in her, um, interdiction, how do you pronounce that, Rob?

• 1:04:41Speaker 04

  Interdiction, seizures.

• 1:04:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Interdictions that have been brought in. She plans to visit El Salvador, Colombia, Mexico to boost deportations. Noam told CNN in February, I would say yes. Get rid of FEMA the way it exists today, calling it a bureaucracy. That's picking and choosing winners. She wants funds for disasters like Hurricane Helen. To go through local officials instead, she noted the Coast Guard's shift saying. We've repositioned the fleet to go after the fentanyl crisis and go. After the southern border and securing it. Tom, thoughts?

• 1:05:10Speaker 04

  So here, here, here she is again. So what she said is headlines. Oh, she wants to get rid of FEMA and FEMA is there to rescue you when the hurricane comes. No, quote, I would say yes, get rid of FEMA the way it exists today. It's the same statement that it, that they made about the Department of Education. The Department of Education wasn't helping K-12 schools. Test scores weren't going up and big grants were being given by the Department of Education to Ivy League schools. How does that help K-12? That doesn't, it's been redirected. FEMA, look at all the stories. When Hurricane Helene happened in western North Carolina, that I've mentioned that, that area like three times today. What happened?

• 1:05:55Speaker 04

  We had stories of people saying independent groups, church groups that, that had actually chartered helicopters were not allowed to do certain things. FEMA's jurisdiction here and, and we can't have extra aircraft in the air. We gotta wait for that. Remember all that? Benny, remember that? Says FEMA is here. Well, they were doing a terrible job. Yep. They were doing a terrible job. And so the governors. She's saying, just like, hey, let's send from the Department of Education, let's send the grants for autism support and all these things to the states. Here's your grant to go do good things to enhance what you're already doing in education. What she's saying, hey, look, when you're overrun by a disaster,

• 1:06:38Speaker 04

  we want to send the relief to the local officials, the governor and the first responders who can see what everything has happened, not wait for FEMA people to come parachuting in and say, oh, I'm in charge here and I'm gonna do it. No, she's like, let's get the resources there. I love this move because you're gonna see a whole bunch of bureaucracy squeezed out of Washington DC and what's left is the fun the way it should be because hurricanes happen. Tornadoes happen in Oklahoma. Yep, and hurricanes happen in Florida. Earthquakes and wildfires happen in California, especially if you're responsibly manage your state and you leave all the tinder out there to burn. So, and why shouldn't FEMA send grants to help the states?

• 1:07:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Who would be against this? Who would be against this? Who would, who would be frightened of this taking place?

• 1:07:27Speaker 04

  I would say the, the Washington bureaucrats that have jobs, number one, and all the command and control Democrats who are scared of strong governors. Because remember, they don't want strong governors. They want the Department of Education to control the outcome. They want all of the federal programs to be in control. That is a tenet of socialism. They don't want the governors to be making decisions for their state that the governors was elected to do. They want to be controlling those governors from Washington. The bureaucrats at the top of this, the Mayorkas', they wouldn't want any of this. They would say, no, no, no, we're, we're in charge here, we're in charge here.

• 1:08:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Got him.

• 1:08:08Adam Sosnick?

  I just think it's, is a little play on words, I think, where you have the Republicans, like Kristi Noem, that are planning to eliminate FEMA, where you have the Democratic Party that it's looking to eliminate females. So whether it's the trans men in women's sports, whether it's the ridiculous stories you hear about tampons in boys bathrooms, whether it's people like Dylan Mulvaney taking legitimate sponsorships away from women, whether it's literal trans women winning beauty contests, whether it's in Nevada, you also have big balloon sized women in Alabama winning beauty contests. Let's just get back to normal and make women great again.

• 1:08:53Speaker 06

  And just to piggyback on FEMA Tom, which I am all for them because it's been politicized. Do you remember the hurricanes that happened in Florida and the FEMA staffers that were told their team through that text to avoid helping Trump supporter houses that had Trump supporting stuff on the flag?

• 1:09:10Speaker 04

  Even more reason that federal partisan bureaucrats should not be calling that shot.

• 1:09:15Speaker 06

  Bingo. That's FEMA for you. Stay, don't help the Trump houses. Go help everybody else. Okay.

• 1:09:20Speaker 04

  Instead, Governor DeSantis, what else do you need? I see you're building the bridge back to the island faster than we could. What else do you need, sir?

• 1:09:28Adam Sosnick?

  Well, you know, you talk about accountability a lot. If someone does that, they should be fired. And I think that person did get fired. Right? The person who was going around.

• 1:09:37Speaker 06

  You would hope so because she blamed it on everybody else. She blamed it on the leadership. But that's like, that's same thing with the FBI. Like you can't obviously root out everybody, but when it comes to people's lives.

• 1:09:47Speaker 04

  You're both right. Consequences happened, but it was happening in the first place.

• 1:09:51Speaker 05

  She didn't get fired. She, on January 20th of 2025, when the Biden administration left and the Trump administration took over, she stepped down, but she was not fired for that.

• 1:09:59Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:09:59Speaker 04

  And she was.

• 1:10:00Speaker 05

  Moments later.

• 1:10:01Speaker 04

  What would have happened?

• 1:10:02Adam Sosnick?

  She was the head of FEMA?

• 1:10:03Patrick Bet-David?

  She knows what would have happened. She knows what would have happened. Okay. All right. So let me get to this next story here. Next story is the Snow White, Snow White, what do you call it? Producer's son says Rachel Zegler.

• 1:10:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Hurt the film's box office with her actions in since deleted comment. This is the exchange. Somebody at the top says, by the way, who's the first comment, Rob?

• 1:10:25Speaker 04

  I couldn't see it's cut off, so I'm not sure.

• 1:10:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Your dad flew to New York City to reprimand a young actress? Any word on this? Because that's creepy as hell and uncalled for. People have the right to free speech. No? Shame on your father. So the guy responds.

• 1:10:43Patrick Bet-David?

  You really want to do this? Yeah, my dad, the producer of enormous piece of Disney IP with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line, had to leave his family to fly across the country to reprimand his 20-year-old employee for dragging her personal politics into the middle of promoting the movie for which she signed a multimillion-dollar contract to get paid and do publicity for. This is called adult responsibility and accountability. And her actions clearly hurt the film's box office. Free speech does not mean you're allowed to say whatever you want in your private employment without repercussions. Tens of thousands of people worked on that film and she hijacked the conversation for her own immature desires. At the risk of all the colleagues and crew, blue-collar workers who depend on that movie to be successful.

• 1:11:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Narcissism is not something to be coddled and encouraged. Tom?

• 1:11:31Speaker 04

  Thank you, Jonah Platt. Oh, my gosh, he's absolutely right. You know, the first person, your dad flew to New York to reprimand a young actress? No, he flew to New York to reprimand an employee or a contractor who was employed on the film. And, oh, she's exercising freedom of speech. Well, guess what? If somebody walks into Pat's office and says, "I think you're a piece of crap and you don't run the company very well." And says, "Okay, well, look, I'm sorry you don't want to work here anymore and we've set that up right now. Goodbye, you get your wish, go take a summer." You don't have freedom of speech. Like, that freedom of speech is Pat respecting or any leader respecting,

• 1:12:15Speaker 04

  "Hey, I like the Yankees, I like Boston, and, you know, I disagree with this, I disagree with that, I'll be voting this way." And you can have that in your persona. But when you come out and the freedom of speech was to condemn the very thing that you're paid to build? Are you kidding me? That someone, I'm more shocked by the post that came before than the one that came after. Because the one that came before is someone who obviously has no clue, literally no clue, to conclude that. And I love Plaid's first thing, "You really want to do this?" I love his first thing, "You really want to do this?" I love that.

• 1:12:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, do me a favor, go to IMDb and just tap Snow White IMDb, okay? Watch this here, folks. Go to Snow White, um, look at the reviews.

• 1:13:06Speaker 04

  1.6?

• 1:13:07Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, look at how many reviews there is. Zoom in if you could, Rob, does it show you or no?

• 1:13:12Speaker 04

  562 user reviews.

• 1:13:14Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's not the one, Rob. It's if you go, there's 163,000 reviews, Rob. 163,000 reviews, I just texted it to you.

• 1:13:23Speaker 04

  Top right, maybe, Rob?

• 1:13:24Patrick Bet-David?

  If, yeah, right there, right there, right there. Zoom in right there, zoom in right there, that's it. 163,000 rating, of which it got 1.6, not out of 5. Like, you know, sometimes you go to McDonald's, it's 1.6 out of 5? 1.6 out of 10. How bad is that?

• 1:13:41Speaker 04

  You took a test, you got a 16 on it.

• 1:13:48Speaker 04

  It's like, how do you get a 16?

• 1:13:51Patrick Bet-David?

  What are the most rated movies on IMDb? What are the worst rated movies on IMDb?

• 1:13:59Speaker 04

  Probably Ishtar, something like that, going back.

• 1:14:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Bottom, what is it?

• 1:14:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, I'm going through some of these lists here. 160-something thousand reviews, maybe it hasn't updated yet. With a 1.6 stars. Absolutely embarrassing for somebody. Did you see the clip of her at the theater, watching it by herself? Have you seen that one or no? I don't know if you saw that or not.

• 1:14:26Speaker 04

  I think it's a brief little...

• 1:14:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, what are your thoughts on this?

• 1:14:29Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I think there's a common theme here. I think the Democratic Party and Disney are attached at the hip. So I think there's a common thread with approval ratings and the stock price. Of what's happened with the Democratic Party and with Disney. You know the famous phrase, go woke, go broke. Right now, Disney, their big blockbuster movie has plummeted. Much like the Democratic approval ratings that reached, I think, an all time low at, what? 27%? So, you know, they say that numbers talk, BS walks, uh, words talk, numbers scream. People are screaming, Disney, get it together. Who is the Disney's customer? You talk about this all the time, Pat.

• 1:15:11Adam Sosnick?

  It's families and it's parents who are paying for their kids to go to movies or go to theme parks or buy products. And you have parents looking at Disney being like, what are you doing, guys? This is supposed to be a place where magic happens. And all you're doing is indoctrinating kids and you're having this person be the poster child of the Democratic Party. She is basically the AOC of Disney. And if you want to, or the Jasmine Crockett of Disney. I know we want to talk about her today, but if you want to look at why the Democratic Party has reached all time lows, look no further than what Disney is doing with their woke, DEI feminist agenda.

• 1:15:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I want you to watch this here, Rob. Play that clip that you had real quick. And then I'm going to show you what Bob Iger said about the movie. Go for it.

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• 1:16:48Speaker 06

  That's our friend screaming.

• 1:16:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:16:51Speaker 06

  And it's bother, nobody was in there.

• 1:16:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you go to the, yeah, that's, that's very, so this is Bob Iger. Disney's Bob Iger says, uh, their mission is to entertain, not send messaging as Snow White sales compete for worst performing live action Disney adaption, adaptation ever. Go a little bit lower to see if there's any other quotes by him. Is it just the data that we've already read, the forty, okay, go, go back a couple, what was it, sixty-seven million? So, go a little bit, little bit lower, Rob, if you could, uh, right there, right there, there you go. Uh, this is, remember, because I've done with forty-six, sixty-seven million, fifty-six million, Snow White's a huntsman, go a little bit lower to see what are the numbers we see. Critics have been kind, giving the film a dismal forty-four percent on Rotten Tomatoes, when the audience score is small enough to forgive him, seventy-four percent. Ron Zuny, uh, Mustafa, Lion King, go a little bit lower.

• 1:17:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Bob Iger, we need to be entertaining. Uh, hyperbolic roller, this isn't the first time Disney had, has scrutiny. I remember billionaire, infusing messaging is not what we're up to, Iger said. We need to be entertaining. His comments were likely aimed at critics like Peltz, who accused Disney of leaning too far into woke storytelling at the expense of financial, financial performance. And by the way, do you know what Disney's stock was, uh, what, what number it reached? If you go to Disney.

• 1:18:07Speaker 06

  It was almost at, I think, one ninety in twenty twenty.

• 1:18:10Patrick Bet-David?

  You just go to five years. Let's go to five years. Go to, so right there, go to one ninety-seven. The market cap at that time was roughly a four hundred billion dollar company. Give or take a three hundred and eighty billion dollar company, three hundred and seventy billion dollar company. You know what it is today? A hundred and eighty-one billion dollar company. They've lost two hundred billion the last four years, Vinny. Two hundred billion dollars. In the last four years.

• 1:18:36Speaker 06

  I mean, I'm not surprised.

• 1:18:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Two hundred billion. And by the, two hundred billion. Yeah, and, and they have solid P ratios, thirty-two point, Tom, how good of a P ratios, thirty-two point six six?

• 1:18:44Adam Sosnick?

  That's still pretty strong for media.

• 1:18:46Patrick Bet-David?

  That's still pretty strong, so, meaning, they, they could, for media.

• 1:18:49Adam Sosnick?

  Room to fall.

• 1:18:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, a lot of room to fall. So this, if this was a twenty X P ratio, you're, you're looking at a hundred billion dollar company. So, I don't know, I don't know what's gonna happen here, but. Sometimes when you're trying to make a move and you know make changes in an organization, the way Trump does it, Trump came in and he took the biggest company in the world and he made immediate changes in 60 days. Iger needs to be inspired a little bit by Trump to come in and make immediate changes. Step down, bring somebody else to make immediate changes. They're using the five-year method. Well, in the movie business it takes a long time to do that.

• 1:19:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Nothing takes longer than government. Nothing. So if a president can come in and move things within 60 days, Bob, you can come and move things as well, but you're moving super slow and one guy's making you look bad and it's a different executive of the biggest company in the world. That's Trump. Tom?

• 1:19:51Speaker 04

  Well, if this keeps up, they're gonna have to start cutting talent at ESPN. They're gonna possibly put ESPN up for sale. They're gonna cut programming. Oh, wait a minute. They already did that. Checking notes. Yeah, they're already doing that. And it's not helping.

• 1:20:04Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's not. Let's go to next door here. Next door here. Vinnie, what's going on with this judge? Tell us about this judge.

• 1:20:09Speaker 06

  All right, well, just for everybody that's not following along, you guys are knowing, you know, with the P Hec Seth and his name is Judge Boesberg. He's the activist judge.

• 1:20:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you show his picture so people can see?

• 1:20:22Speaker 06

  Yeah, and again, and I'm not making fun of the look, Tom. I'm just saying, they all have that, what's the guy from Brazil, the judge that just, he has that, they just have that.

• 1:20:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Alexandre de Moraes.

• 1:20:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, when they have, guys, when you're not happy and you're, you just have this hate in your heart and you're activist, this is what happens. So this is Judge Boesberg, the same guy who intentionally.

• 1:20:44Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a terrible word if he was Armenian, but go ahead, keep going.

• 1:20:47Speaker 06

  Thousand percent. But guys, and again, I'm just, I just connect these dots that everybody else could do if you just do a little bit of research. He's the same guy who intentionally delayed Hillary's email so voters wouldn't find out the truth before the 2016 elections. Weird. He's the same guy who blocked Trump from deporting violent, illegal gang members out of the United States. Now, he just so happens to be the one presiding over the Signal. case with Pete Hexeth, okay, and it's not this, it's not, to me, it's like, haven't we learned the lesson, like, it's not justice, it's controlled opposition, the whole story, to me, Pat, stinks, because now we're, we're finding out with all this stuff, people that were involved, and there, there's really no explanation of how a reporter from the

• 1:21:32Speaker 06

  Atlantic got into this chat, and I'm not being that guy, but I'm just, I'm just stating facts, where everybody's confused, they really don't know, even Mike Walz, Rob, is that the clip, or Mike Walz is kind of talking about it? Yes. Can you, can you please play that?

• 1:21:44Speaker 04

  So they want to focus on this, it's embarrassing, yes, we're going to get to the bottom of it, we've have, I, I just talked to Elon on the way here, we've got the best technical minds looking at how this happened.

• 1:21:56Speaker 06

  Weird.

• 1:21:57Speaker 04

  But I can tell you, I can tell you for 100%, I don't know this guy, I know him by his horrible reputation, and he really is the bottom scum of journalists, and I know him in the sense that he hates the president, but I don't text him, he wasn't on my phone, and we're going to figure out how this happened.

• 1:22:14Speaker 06

  So you don't know what staffer is responsible for this, right now?

• 1:22:17Speaker 04

  Well, look, a staffer wasn't responsible, and, look, I take full responsibility, I built the, I built the group, my job is to make sure everything's coordinated.

• 1:22:27Speaker 06

  But how did the number, I mean, I don't mean to be pedantic here, but how did the number?

• 1:22:29Speaker 04

  Have you ever had, have you ever had somebody's contact that shows their name, and then you have, and then you have somebody else's number there?

• 1:22:35Speaker 06

  Oh, I never make those mistakes.

• 1:22:36Speaker 04

  Right, you've got somebody else's number on someone else's contact, so of course I didn't see this loser in the group, it looked like someone else, now whether he did it deliberately, or it happened in some other technical mean, is something we're trying to figure out.

• 1:22:50Speaker 06

  Hold on, can we just say something to Adam, do you guys remember, hold on, do you remember when Tucker Carlson went to Russia, and he sat on a podcast, I think it was with the Milk Boys, and he said unequivocally, he goes, somebody hacked into my signal, and they did stuff to my signal, so what I'm saying is, until we know all the facts, which everybody, like you, Adam, I'm going off of your words, everyone wants to just jump on everything, until we know all the facts of how something like that could happen, let's not jump to it, number one, was the mission accomplished, did we kill the people that were trying to go and attack and do, yes. Mission complete and the stuff that was in the text wasn't classified information that hurt national security. Cause all I keep hearing is national security. Nobody gave a damn about national security for the past four years when terrorists have come over.

• 1:23:35Speaker 06

  When you have literally terrorists looking in front of the camera going, when soon you will know my name. Soon you will, nobody badder than I. Now because of a text leak, which we haven't found out what the hell the answer is. Now everybody's worried about national security. Let's wait and see what happens, but I believe him.

• 1:23:50Adam Sosnick?

  Vinny, I love you. Why do you sound so angry?

• 1:23:51Speaker 06

  Because Adam, you see the shirt? Everybody see that?

• 1:23:54Adam Sosnick?

  But why is, you're always angry, but what is it?

• 1:23:56Speaker 06

  I'm always angry.

• 1:23:57Adam Sosnick?

  Why is this story angering you so much?

• 1:23:59Speaker 06

  It's weird that this judge is involved and that the left, this is just something that the left is jumping on so hard. They're having meetings, they're having hearings and it's like, listen, if they made a mistake, good, admit it. They're, they've admitted it, they're moving on, but until we find out how, Adam, how does an Atlantic, a guy that they all despise, how did he jump into this text? How? Why?

• 1:24:21Adam Sosnick?

  I get this as a trending story, you know, and Pat, you would always talk about signal versus noise. I'm just gonna speculate for a second.

• 1:24:28Speaker 06

  Go ahead.

• 1:24:28Adam Sosnick?

  You know how many people you meet at a business conference, at an event, at, at the vault or whatever, and you get and exchange phone numbers and you never speak to them again, ever? And they're in your phone and then you're putting a text message together. And let's say I want to put Tom and accidentally put Tomas that I made it a different thing. Maybe the Latino Tom, Marengue Tom. And then I'm putting a group text message together and I have 10 people in there and I accidentally put the one wrong guy. Okay, let's just chalk this up to most likely, he added the wrong person. Who's the guy he added? Jeff Goldblum or whoever? From Jurassic Park? Whoever the hell it was. He added the wrong guy.

• 1:25:12Adam Sosnick?

  Just be like, yo, my bad, I screwed up, I'll freaking do better next time.

• 1:25:17Speaker 06

  Well, he did, he goes, it falls on me.

• 1:25:19Adam Sosnick?

  So just own up to it. You put the wrong person in the group chat.

• 1:25:22Speaker 06

  Maybe.

• 1:25:22Adam Sosnick?

  Move on.

• 1:25:23Speaker 06

  Maybe, maybe.

• 1:25:23Adam Sosnick?

  What do you mean?

• 1:25:24Speaker 06

  Let them find out.

• 1:25:25Adam Sosnick?

  There's so much more of a simpler explanation that you're putting a group chat together. You put the wrong person in, the baby were hacked and they put the Atlantic guy in there and he was undercover. And what happens was, you all know when you put the wrong phone cat, they're going to, it's like, what are you talking about dude? You screwed up, take ownership, it's not that big of a deal, move on. And that's the most likely what happened.

• 1:25:46Speaker 06

  Well, we'll wait and see. We'll wait and see.

• 1:25:49Adam Sosnick?

  Well.

• 1:25:51Speaker 04

  First of all, this is a big mistake. And second of all, Mike Walz has said, you know, the buck stops with me. It's my organization. We're looking at how it happened. And, you know, I'm responsible. And so I like the fact that Walz has said, hey, I'm responsible. If this was the other way around, you know, the Republicans would be hammering this too. So one side is giving the other side Of course. a big nail sticking up, and the other side is just hammering on that nail. And that's what's going on. Now, what am I happy about? Not one person has said that the mission was compromised, US servicemen were shot down, or something horrible. I would feel differently

• 1:26:36Speaker 04

  about it. Actually, no, I feel the same way, but I am relieved to hear that apparently we didn't lose anybody, and nothing leaked to the Houthis, that they got any aircraft missile going, anything, that the guys we wanted to get, we got. So mission accomplished, allegedly, what they're saying.

• 1:26:54Adam Sosnick?

  Just like when George Bush stood on that big battleship and said, "Mission accomplished."

• 1:26:58Speaker 04

  Well, that was a little bit different. And now we know there's a little bit of marketing there to call it the 100-hour war and things like that. So there was a little bit of spin.

• 1:27:05Speaker 06

  Do you guys know who the chair of the board of Signal is? Anybody? Adam?

• 1:27:11Adam Sosnick?

  Tell us.

• 1:27:12Speaker 06

  Her name is Catherine Marr, like Bill Marr. She's a leftist NPR CEO. She's on the, what are the odds of that? Look at, look at who's, and she's been on X, she's had some crazy speeches before. So, you know, it's kind of weird that everybody's kind of connected. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:27:25Adam Sosnick?

  It's very interesting that she comes up, because she was just in front of Congress yesterday, where she was questioned about wanting reparations in financial form, and tweeting about that. Here's what she had to say.

• 1:27:36Speaker 04

  She got grilled pretty good.

• 1:27:37Speaker 06

  Can't hear her, Rob. I have never said that, sir. Go back a little bit. Sorry about that.

• 1:27:44Speaker 05

  Do you think that white people should pay reparations?

• 1:27:46Speaker 06

  I have never said that, sir.

• 1:27:48Speaker 05

  Yes, you did. You said it in January of 2020. You tweeted, "Yes, the North. Yes, all of us. Yes, America. Yes, our original collective sin and unpaid debt. Yes, reparations. Yes, on this day."

• 1:28:00Speaker 06

  I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir.

• 1:28:03Speaker 05

  What kind of reparations was it a reference to?

• 1:28:06Speaker 06

  I think it was just a reference to the idea that we all owe much to the people who came before us.

• 1:28:11Speaker 04

  That that's a bizarre way to frame what you tweeted.

• 1:28:15Speaker 06

  So I remember all those connections that you're talking about. So one person could be like,

• 1:28:18Speaker 04

  And it got worse. It was a bad hearing.

• 1:28:20Speaker 06

  Yeah, it was horrible. She's she's there. The judge has been involved with all these other things. He's obviously a Democrat and he's and it's all of a sudden boom this early. They found it. So I don't know. Like I said, what's

• 1:28:30Speaker 04

  Can I give one? I was I was asking. I'll sum it up and I'll let you guys segue to the other side of it if you want. But Walz took responsibility. Good. It happened in the first place. Very, very bad. Right? None of our servicemen were compromised. Very good. Mission was accomplished. Good. And now both sides are going to hammer on it. I'm really focused on the men and women that were in arms that the mission wasn't compromised and somehow we lost people because it leaked.

• 1:28:56Adam Sosnick?

  Well, thank goodness. Rob, I'd sent the Wall Street Journal did a great job of basically kind of laying out the facts of this story. Pete Hegseth, who's under fire right now because he's the Secretary of Defense.

• 1:29:09Adam Sosnick?

  They came. He came out and made a statement and he basically was like, listen, there was nothing inappropriate on there. There was nothing leaked. There was no mission details. There was nothing on there. And then, Rob, you get the text I sent you?

• 1:29:21Speaker 04

  I did. It's taken a while to download.

• 1:29:23Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 1:29:23Speaker 04

  I'm looking.

• 1:29:24Adam Sosnick?

  But all right. You want me to just send this to you in Slack?

• 1:29:26Speaker 06

  And while you're doing that, do you guys think it's good? I'm being genuine. But do you think it's smart if you're the reporter to leak every single like you should? You should go to the FBI. You should go to the Department of Homeland Security and say, hey, listen, this was leaked. I'm not trying to compromise. This is you guys need to fix this instead of making it obviously reported later after the math.

• 1:29:47Patrick Bet-David?

  That part, that part, you have to know that even when WikiLeaks was leaking stuff, Cuomo back in the days was like, this is not the right thing to do. You shouldn't. You should drop it off to the government and all that other stuff. So that argument is made on both sides. And then the conservatives were happy that WikiLeaks leaked some of the information on what happened with some of the emails. So again, this is both. What's this here, Rob? This is

• 1:30:09Adam Sosnick?

  So these, this is the text that we're actually that we're talking about this chat.

• 1:30:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:15Adam Sosnick?

  So, Rob, if you want to go back to the one that's highlighted.

• 1:30:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this the one?

• 1:30:20Adam Sosnick?

  There's one that's highlighted, Rob.

• 1:30:23Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, these are the actual plans. They said first strike package is gonna be at 12:15 Eastern. At 13:45 is a trigger base F-18 first strike windows, window starts. This looks pretty damn specific to me. At 4:15, strike target, strike drones on target. This will, this is when the first bombs will definitely drop. Also, C base Tomahawks. This looks pretty damn specific.

• 1:30:51Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:30:51Adam Sosnick?

  So, and it's also called, you notice the name of the group chat? It's called the Houthi PC Small Group.

• 1:30:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to Hillary Clinton's Twitter account. I can't believe I'm saying that, but go to Hillary Clinton's Twitter account.

• 1:31:02Speaker 06

  I can't believe that came out of your mouth.

• 1:31:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Go to Hillary Clinton's.

• 1:31:05Speaker 06

  Go to Hillary's X.

• 1:31:06Patrick Bet-David?

  If you go, if you go there and zoom into, not this one, the one before this.

• 1:31:13Speaker 06

  Future president.

• 1:31:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Right there. She says, "Never thought I'd be retweeting Pierce Morgan, but he's right. If you don't consider, this is to be classified info about the imminent war plans. It may be that you're too partisan to recognize the truth when it slaps you around your tribal chops. If this happened on Biden's watch, Republicans would have rightly gone berserk and it shows the same exact thing." So, look, you can't have this happen. Period. You have to be very careful. You know, when, when we have an employee that's not with us anymore and they're added in a group text. And, you know, that, that is already something where it's like, hey, what are you doing? It's reactivating that group text from two years ago.

• 1:31:51Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back up and all you need to do is see who is in that group text. And you have to always do it. That's at a lower level of a small company, right? Let alone doing it at a bigger level of a military with things on the line. So,

• 1:32:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, don't get me wrong. I mean, it's, it's, and, and the left is making crazy claims. Hexit was drunk and this, this, that. That's really the angle they want to take it because they want to find a way to character assassinate and make fun and he's not the right person to run this. And that's what they're gonna be doing. But you have to be careful with this stuff.

• 1:32:23Speaker 06

  But it is rich though, that Hillary Clinton, of all people, is commenting on anything that has to do with emails or texts or. National security.

• 1:32:33Patrick Bet-David?

  For sure.

• 1:32:33Speaker 06

  Let's not like the fact that she's even trying to be irrelevant. It's like thi- this woman will not just.

• 1:32:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Last person to have the moral authority to criticize this or say anything about it.

• 1:32:42Speaker 06

  Period like and again, this is going towards a democratic party. That party will never ever ever change besides the Jasmine cricket paper, even get there. They're never going like that. You should tell her, people like her, just disappear. Don't talk because you look like a moron. All the blackberries they destroyed, all the emails, all the, all the testimony, all the, it's just.

• 1:33:05Adam Sosnick?

  But Vinny, don't get it twisted. Wrong messenger, right message.

• 1:33:09Speaker 06

  Right message, yes.

• 1:33:10Adam Sosnick?

  She's right.

• 1:33:11Speaker 06

  Hundred percent.

• 1:33:11Adam Sosnick?

  They screwed up.

• 1:33:12Speaker 06

  I agree. I said it. I was the first one to say it.

• 1:33:14Adam Sosnick?

  And by the way, screw ups are going to happen.

• 1:33:17Speaker 06

  I agree.

• 1:33:17Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. And if just because it's a screw up, now they want to go and basically try to dismantle and just wreck Pete Hegseth, claim that he's drunk during all this. By the way, J D Vance was in this text message group. You have Mike Waltz texting J D Vance. It's one of the other ones right there. He said, VP, the building collapse had multiple positive ID. Pete Carrillo, the IC, amazing job. J D Vance goes, what? Um, typing too fast, first target, their top missile guy. The point is, these conversations should happen, do happen. We're just getting the, it's exposed.

• 1:33:52Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:33:52Adam Sosnick?

  Because they screwed up and added one person that should have not been there. And they should be under hot water for screwing up.

• 1:33:59Speaker 06

  I agree.

• 1:33:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go through a couple of these stories here and wrap up. Okay. Uh, next story, Zelensky says Putin will die soon and vows it will come to an end. Okay, Rob, if you got the clip for this one, uh, go ahead. This is Zelensky.

• 1:34:14Speaker 02

  It also depends on his age. He will die soon. That's a fact and it will come to an end. It could be come to an end even before.

• 1:34:25Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you saying?

• 1:34:27Speaker 02

  Ends his absolutely safe.

• 1:34:32Speaker 02

  Uh, losing, historically losing life, historically lost life.

• 1:34:39Patrick Bet-David?

  How did this not get more attention?

• 1:34:41Speaker 06

  I don't, yeah, yeah, what? Cause he said if he dies being a young age, or if he dies before that. That's basically saying-

• 1:34:49Patrick Bet-David?

  No, he didn't say if he dies. He says he most likely will die before. Can you go back and play that clip again, Rob? In like five seconds into it? You just add it up, there you go.

• 1:34:57Speaker 04

  He's reading from the script.

• 1:34:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Right there, yeah.

• 1:35:03Speaker 02

  And that's a fact, and it will come to an end. It could be come to an end even before.

• 1:35:10Speaker 06

  Could come even before, meaning what do you say? Before old age, yeah, what?

• 1:35:14Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you saying? How old is Putin, Rob?

• 1:35:16Speaker 04

  Seventy-two years old.

• 1:35:17Speaker 06

  Oh, he's chilling, bro.

• 1:35:18Patrick Bet-David?

  So seventy-two years old to say something like that. Tom, how do you process that?

• 1:35:22Speaker 04

  I, I don't process it about Putin. What I process is Zelensky is saying something inflammatory about one of the three parties that is trying to negotiate a ceasefire. So you've got the US trying to get Ukraine and Russia in, wherever it was, in Saudi Arabia, wherever, wherever they were, and on the phone, and since they were trying to get this delicate thing, we have a little bit of a ceasefire going on. This, Zelensky says this. To me, this is like, this guy doesn't want a ceasefire. He's now poking the bear on the eve of getting a ceasefire. What's going on here? Who's, who, who's in his ear telling him to, to do things like this to try and piss off Russia?

• 1:36:07Speaker 04

  That is my take.

• 1:36:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam?

• 1:36:10Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I don't know. Maybe he was just watching Rocky IV, and he was getting motivation from Ivan Drago when he says-

• 1:36:17Speaker 04

  If he dies.

• 1:36:18Adam Sosnick?

  If he dies.

• 1:36:19Patrick Bet-David?

  He dies.

• 1:36:21Adam Sosnick?

  And this is maybe where he's getting his motivations. And, you know, Rocky, I think, was also, uh, how tall was Sylvester Stallone?

• 1:36:29Speaker 04

  Five-eight.

• 1:36:30Adam Sosnick?

  Five-eight? How tall do you think Putin is?

• 1:36:33Speaker 04

  Five-seven.

• 1:36:34Adam Sosnick?

  How tall do you think Zelensky is? Four two, so I think actually Putin and Zelensky are the exact same height. It's the ironic thing, it just looks way shorter. I don't know, you know, he's probably, my assumption is he's talking about the fact that he is seventy-two years old, you know, the life expectancy of a healthy seventy-two year old is gonna take you to ninety-something. He's probably not gonna die in the next ten, twenty years, but we'll see. But then again, let's just get real here, these guys are at war and war, you're trying to kill each other. So if he dies, he dies. Yeah, I guess the question is, is he insinuating? Is he indirectly sending a message? Is he trying to rattle? Is he trying to make a comment to prevent this ceasefire from taking place?

• 1:37:19Adam Sosnick?

  Because it'll stop the inflow of money coming in. Is he, what is the, you know, the sign language? Like, you know, when you know somebody for a while, you'll know when they're speaking. They'll know, like, my guys who worked with me for a long time, sales guys, I would be speaking on stage. I never mentioned anybody's name, but everybody knew who I was talking about. Not everybody, the main top five percent knew who I was talking about. People have to know why he's saying something like that. You're a world leader, you're in the middle of it. Some guy named President Trump is trying to prevent and stop the war that continues, that's costing hundreds of thousands of people's lives, and that's how you wanna speak? So I would call him if I'm him, I'm like, can I ask you a question?

• 1:38:03Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, why did you say that? What was your outcome of saying that? It doesn't sound like you're committed to doing anything. It doesn't sound like you wanna get anything done. What was your purpose of saying that? Did Trump, has anybody reacted to what he said, Rob?

• 1:38:17Speaker 06

  Not that I have seen. I don't think so.

• 1:38:18Adam Sosnick?

  Has anyone reacted to what Zelensky said about Putin could die?

• 1:38:26Adam Sosnick?

  Could die, alright, so let's just see who's retweeted this. Zelensky says Putin will die.

• 1:38:31Speaker 06

  So much for diplomacy.

• 1:38:33Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so that's Russia TV though, right? Russia, what's RT stand for?

• 1:38:36Speaker 06

  Russia, yeah, it's Russia.

• 1:38:38Adam Sosnick?

  Russia, what is it?

• 1:38:39Speaker 06

  I think it's Russia Today.

• 1:38:40Adam Sosnick?

  Russia Today, okay. So go a little bit lower, go a little bit lower, just to see if anybody else is reacting to it. Actor is a moron, Zelensky says Putin will die soon, okay, keep going, but who else has reacted to it?

• 1:38:51Patrick Bet-David?

  After all this man has done for money, now he understands when his opponents keep going lower. Okay, so that's that. Putin has only three. Okay, so now it's getting into stuff for many, many years.

• 1:39:01Adam Sosnick?

  No, just getting rid of him.

• 1:39:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.

• 1:39:04Adam Sosnick?

  So certainly in the spirit of diplomacy and trying to end a war, this wasn't a comment that you should probably should be making. But just a hypothetical, what if this was Putin who said this about Zelensky? You never know, he might die very soon. We'll see. Do you think that that would be also an egregious mistake? Do you think it would be something similar to that or is it?

• 1:39:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, for sure. If Putin said it, like if, if you're a world leader and you make comments, I have to sit there and think, is this a distraction comment? Because sometimes you'll make a comment to get people to go look here and all the time you're over here, right? So I understand that. I mean, that's, you're supposed to understand these types of things as a world leader to throw people off. So could this be a throwing off people? I don't think so. What are you throwing people off of? Throwing people off of this topic, like let's just say if you're trying to do something like that, you want to throw people off, you should have talked about, you know, what's going on with Canada and Mexico?

• 1:40:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And try to like poke the bear to annoy him in a different way, not to say something like this. This doesn't, I don't know. Because I'm not in it, again, I'm not inside of it to be able to call 17 people and say, what was this about? And be able to process it with generals and leaders and political guys. I'm not inside of it.

• 1:40:25Adam Sosnick?

  But it's also timing. If you said this a year ago, two years ago, you know, when you're literally in the height of the war rhetoric, okay.

• 1:40:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, click on the news one.

• 1:40:33Adam Sosnick?

  Peace negotiations, yes. It's problematic, right?

• 1:40:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Click on the newsweek one. Let's see what the five takeaways are. Let's see what newsweek says. Go a little bit lower, Rob, for the top five. Why does it matter with the rumors of Putin's dead? Zelensky may have been simply referring on how leaders live forever, but Zelensky insists you know, to continue isolating Putin under caves. Okay, so all right, he's always saying it just because he's gonna eventually die. What to know, Zelensky took questions from several outlets, from Iran, why are you going to be followed by talks in Saudi Arabia and Russian partial ceasefire on the Black Sea? And for example, Greece, but Zelensky said he hoped the US would stand strong in the face of Russian demands to lift sanctions as a condition. Okay, go a little bit lower for the Black Sea. Putin will die soon. Zelensky said that the US should not bring Putin out of political and economic isolation that right now was one of the most dangerous moments as the Russia leaders wanted to remain

• 1:41:20Patrick Bet-David?

  in power until his death and he had ambitions beyond Ukraine, which was why US and Europe stayed. He added, he will die soon. Zelensky gave no further detail on face questions about the health, which Kremlin has been dismissed. Okay, Steve Witkoff knows real estate. Go a little bit lower, Rob, to see what the US influenced by Russian disinformation, US remains. What are the five points that they're talking about? Return of missing children? Zoom out a little bit to see if we see any five points? Go anything lower, anything lower? Nothing there. Yeah, I don't see anything there. I don't know why he's saying this. I don't know why he's saying it. Anyways, let's go to the next story. Maybe we'll find out, but I would be so furious if I'm Trump and I'm trying to broker a deal and you're talking like this. What the F are you doing? What are you doing? Anyways.

• 1:42:03Adam Sosnick?

  You want to talk about LeBron this last night?

• 1:42:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I got, I got two stories I want to go to. Let's go to the LeBron one. So LeBron James addresses Stephen A. Smith's confrontation for the first time. And so where does LeBron go? To the direct competitor of Stephen A. Smith? He goes to the Pat McAfee Show, okay? Just to say, hey, I'm going to this guy over you. And we know he's doing that. We understand, the guys that follow these stories know what's going on. But let's go ahead and play this clip. Go for it, Rob. Which leads obviously to you and.

• 1:42:31Speaker 04

  Stephen A.

• 1:42:34Speaker 04

  Hey, legit, that feels like a moment that had been brewing for a long time.

• 1:42:37Patrick Bet-David?

  He's like on a Taylor Swift.

• 1:42:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:42:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Tour run right now.

• 1:42:40Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're watching it. We're all. Oh, yeah. We're all, you're seeing it as well.

• 1:42:44Patrick Bet-David?

  No, this, you know, he literally, it started off with, I didn't want to address it. Yeah, sure. I didn't, I didn't want to address it. I wasn't going to address it, but since the video came out, I feel the need to address it.

• 1:42:57Speaker 04

  You wouldn't be not to talk about it.

• 1:42:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you kidding me? If there's one person that couldn't wait to the video to drop so you could address it, it's your ass. Like, seriously, uh, uh, it's, and like another, he completely like, missed the whole point, the whole point. Never in my, never would I ever, um, not allow people to talk about the sport, criticize players about what they do on the court. That is your job to criticize or to, you know, be in a position where, okay, if a guy's not performing, you know, that is all, that is all part of the game. That's all part of the game. But when you take it and

• 1:43:40Patrick Bet-David?

  you get personal with it, um, it's my job to not only protect my damn household, but protect the players, you know, and I think, and I think a lot of the media, including him, and I know he's gonna, he's gonna be happy as hell. He's gonna be smiling from ear to ear when he hears me talking about him again. Oh, my God. He's, he's gonna get home and grab some ice cream out of the fucking freezer and sit in his chair and his tiny whiteys on the couch.

• 1:44:10Speaker 04

  I hope at some point you two do get a chance.

• 1:44:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, dude, like, relax, bro. Like, relax. Like, seriously. Yeah. So Stephen A. responds to this in a couple of different ways, Rob. I don't know if you have it or not, but until you find it, which is fine, uh, uh, LeBron goes in troll mode and he posts a picture because Stephen A. said, if you get to my face, is this the one, Rob?

• 1:44:32Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:44:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go ahead and play this clip.

• 1:44:35Speaker 04

  Man put his hands on me. I would have immediately swung on him.

• 1:44:38Speaker 06

  Immediately. That man put his hand on me.

• 1:44:41Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, to his defense, he came back and said, guys, play the entire clip. Because he did say, nah, he would have destroyed me.

• 1:44:49Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:44:49Patrick Bet-David?

  But I'm just saying.

• 1:44:50Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:44:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I would have reacted to it. Yeah, no, he did qual- of course he qualified it, but then LeBron went and posted this on his Instagram account.

• 1:44:59Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. Okay, SA.

• 1:45:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Obviously, there's a lot of fun going on with this here. But he had a full on reaction. But before I go there, Adam, your thoughts on that? I'll show you the clip on Stephen A.

• 1:45:12Adam Sosnick?

  You know, we're talking about goats here. Now, if they're gonna play one on one and play basketball or even fight, uh, put your money on LeBron. You're putting your money on Stephen A. But LeBron, respect to you, buddy, on the court, off the court. Um, you're also a family man. When it comes to debating, when it comes to having, uh, the verbiage, when it comes to speaking, uh, you're talking to the goat right here. This is Stephen A., arguably the greatest sports commentator of all time.

• 1:45:41Speaker 06

  Or trash talker.

• 1:45:42Adam Sosnick?

  Trash talker. So you don't want to go into that ring with Stephen A. Stay on your side. So you know how LeBron was talking about, listen, you know, I'm gonna stand up for my other, other players or stand up, you know, as a father. Let's not get it twisted. You're not standing up for any other players to Stephen A. like this. You're standing up for one player and one player only, and his name is LeBron James Jr., AKA Bronny James. So Stephen A. has every right to criticize an NBA player and say, look, maybe he ain't cut out for the league. But you know what just happened? Actually, turned out, it actually was motivation and fire under Bronny James's butt. Why?

• 1:46:25Adam Sosnick?

  Because a week or so later, a guy who was averaging point, five points a game, not even a full point, came out, had a career high 16 points playing for the Lakers, uh, while LeBron was out of the game. So maybe this was the thing that Bronny needed to get into the league. Let's not forget, Bronny has not played much college or professional basketball. Remember, he played for USC for like a half a season because he was out the first half of the season with a heart condition. Let's not make any assumptions.

• 1:46:55Speaker 06

  Whatever.

• 1:46:56Adam Sosnick?

  Let's just go with the.

• 1:46:57Speaker 06

  Whatever, whatever. Make it 18 year old heart stop, whatever. Well, everybody can make their own.

• 1:47:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Opinion.

• 1:47:03Adam Sosnick?

  Last point, it is very interesting. You know, Pat, you called it his rival, Pat McAfee. You know, a lot of people don't know the inside stuff. To quote Ahmad Shad with this thing right here. But Pat McAfee, he signed a hundred million dollar contract, whatever it was. Couple of years ago. Stephen A. Smith has been under contract negotiations for what feels like years. And it just got solidified this month. Hundred million dollars for, I believe, four years, five years.

• 1:47:31Patrick Bet-David?

  It's competitive.

• 1:47:32Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:47:32Patrick Bet-David?

  It's competitive.

• 1:47:33Adam Sosnick?

  So it's competitive.

• 1:47:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Play this clip.

• 1:47:36Speaker 06

  What he had to say, I was in no position to give any kind of retort without making a scene. It was during the third quarter. It was fresh out of a timeout. It was him walking to the basketball court. It was on national television. The cameras were rolling. And had I done something, what do y'all want me to do? You want me to act new? You want this to be a reincarnation of Chris Rock and Will Smith? And let me state for the record that while we bring up that, let me assure you, it wouldn't have gone down like that. I would have gotten my ass kicked. Because had that man put his hands on me, I would have immediately swung on him. Immediately.

• 1:48:17Speaker 06

  That I'm not gonna tolerate. But I knew he wasn't going to do something like that. There was no fear in my mind about it. It was shock. Because as I have repeatedly stated, I was not talking about his son. I was talking about him.

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• 1:49:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that it, Rob?

• 1:49:19Speaker 06

  Yes, sir.

• 1:49:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, there's a clip, there's a clip there that he says LeBron is a liar, he's shady, he's this, he's that, he's this, uh, and, and I'll try to find that clip to give it to you.

• 1:49:28Speaker 06

  I mean, he kinda, he kinda is, though.

• 1:49:29Patrick Bet-David?

  He what?

• 1:49:30Speaker 06

  LeBron kind of is, his, the, just from the past couple of years with everything from, you know, when he came to China, when the NBA was making all this money, he stayed quiet when everybody was...

• 1:49:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this it, Rob?

• 1:49:40Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:49:40Patrick Bet-David?

  This is it, go for it, play this clip, this is it, go ahead.

• 1:49:44Speaker 06

  But don't the truth matter?

• 1:49:47Speaker 06

  Because there's one person in this ordeal that's telling the truth, and it's me.

• 1:49:52Patrick Bet-David?

  This is...

• 1:49:53Speaker 06

  I ha- I don't lie to y'all.

• 1:49:56Speaker 06

  His ass lies a lot.

• 1:50:02Speaker 06

  And there's a lot of shady stuff that he does.

• 1:50:06Speaker 06

  And one of the things is his passive aggressiveness.

• 1:50:10Speaker 06

  And the two-facedness, and smile on your face and dig you behind the back.

• 1:50:16Speaker 06

  I happen to know that about him, which is why I don't like him.

• 1:50:21Adam Sosnick?

  Damn.

• 1:50:22Speaker 06

  And he don't like me.

• 1:50:23Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 1:50:24Speaker 06

  But it doesn't stop me from being fair and calling it like I see it. We ain't exchanging Christmas gifts, we ain't having Thanksgiving dinner together, what you bring your son up in there for? What you bring your family up in there for? You gonna go on Pat McAfee's show, talk about you gonna protect your house, what you talking about? Your son ain't at the house, he's at Crypto.com Arena. We ain't covering him in Brentwood, we covering him in downtown LA at the Crypto.com Arena. Where you put him!

• 1:50:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so, a- a- and, and by the way, that, that, that's the criticism, he says in another story, he says, you know, LeBron's always been the guy that's been the passive aggressive guy. And he says, he's the guy that will say something to your face and then go behind your back, I don't trust this guy. He said this straight up about, uh, about, what do you call it, LeBron? And how he is, and then later on, the topic of discussion came up about Michael Jordan. Rob, do you have that one?

• 1:51:19Speaker 06

  I do.

• 1:51:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so he's asked about Michael, he says, how often do you guys speak, right? And, and this is so funny because of...

• 1:51:26Speaker 06

  He said, "Never," I believe.

• 1:51:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, well, he, he says, he explains why Michael said we can't speak, I don't know if he says it in this clip, but go for it, Rob.

• 1:51:33Speaker 06

  Okay, so you and, you and Michael, uh, at a good spot?

• 1:51:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Who, me and Michael?

• 1:51:36Speaker 06

  Jordan.

• 1:51:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we're a good spot. We don't, we don't talk.

• 1:51:40Speaker 06

  Why not, you think?

• 1:51:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, because I'm still playing. I think I'm still playing.

• 1:51:44Speaker 04

  Still focused on my craft right now. When you're done, you think you two be the only two that can have a conversation? I would hope so. You know, you know, the funny thing is me like me and Kobe besides are, you know, the late great Kobe, obviously. Me and Kobe never had a real relationship either. Until we was on the Olympic team. We had a great relationship there. Olympic team eight, Olympic team 12. But it was always competitive between us. We were always like, I was on the east coast, he was on the west coast and it was like, even though we never. I fucked up one time in, in, you know, oh nine and didn't beat Orlando and I think it was oh nine, didn't beat Orlando and didn't get him an opportunity to play him in the finals, but like.

• 1:52:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Dwight Howard made it to the finals?

• 1:52:22Speaker 04

  Until I became a Laker and then he retired. That's when our relationship like became really, really good.

• 1:52:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:30Speaker 04

  You know, he like welcomed me, called me like, bro, anything you need in LA, like I got you. You a Laker now, you family. You know, and we would have multiple conversations. He was, obviously you got to saw him coming a lot of games and things of that nature and. When I, when I passed him in the scoring record in Philly, you know, I think he had a tweet out there like, keep on going, like, keep transcending the game, keep going, like, and that shit like meant so much to me. So like. I think it's because I'm still playing, you know, and MJ's, we all know MJ, even if you don't know him personally. He's one of the most ruthless competitors there is. And till I'm done and he doesn't have to look at me run up and down wearing the number 23 and every time my name is mentioned, is mentioned with his. He's like, I don't want to fucking talk to you.

• 1:53:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, I want to call sports. Yeah, I'm on a call sports. Don't talk to me right now. I'm on, I'm on the back nine. Do not call me.

• 1:53:18Patrick Bet-David?

  It was great to see y'all at the, the top 75.

• 1:53:20Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, that was dope. Yeah, that was dope. That's, that's straight, that's straight respect, admiration and just like. You know, me for sure. I mean, shit, I like I said, I wear 23 um because of MJ, you know, and that, that shit, the inspiration that he gave me as a. Kid at Akron, Ohio that don't have much inspiration in your hometown.

• 1:53:39Patrick Bet-David?

  At the top 75, the 75 best players, that, that one thing, where do they rank, Michael? Where do they rank LeBron?

• 1:53:46Adam Sosnick?

  Do they rank it in order in a hierarchical order?

• 1:53:48Speaker 04

  They do because they came.

• 1:53:49Adam Sosnick?

  I think they just put.

• 1:53:50Speaker 04

  They came in a 75% rank, uh, uh, so this was the NBA 75th anniversary, ranked 76 basketball legends, checking, what year was this, Rob? 2022.

• 1:54:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, that's, yeah, okay, he won the, okay, so go see who's in the top 10. Who did they have in their top 10? All the way down.

• 1:54:09Adam Sosnick?

  Isaiah Thomas, number one, we know that.

• 1:54:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, for sure. And by the way, he said something else in the, in the podcast. Okay, let's go through, let's see who they have. Durant 12, ahead of Olajuwon. I don't know. Shaq is 11?

• 1:54:21Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:54:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know about that.

• 1:54:22Adam Sosnick?

  Let's see that.

• 1:54:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Kobe 10.

• 1:54:24Adam Sosnick?

  Kobe above Shaq?

• 1:54:25Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but that's not the point. Kobe 10th? Keep going.

• 1:54:28Adam Sosnick?

  Keep going.

• 1:54:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Oscar 9th?

• 1:54:30Adam Sosnick?

  Oscar Robertson, Mr. Triple Double, Tim Duncan.

• 1:54:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you say how many championships Oscar Robertson won?

• 1:54:36Adam Sosnick?

  He averaged a tip, he was like Russell Westbrook.

• 1:54:39Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not.

• 1:54:40Adam Sosnick?

  Back in the day.

• 1:54:40Patrick Bet-David?

  How many championships did, did he win? Uh, did Oscar Robertson win? I thought it was only one he won. Yeah, he won one championship. Why do you put him at, that's so weird to me. Who the hell, I can't trust the rest of them.

• 1:54:53Adam Sosnick?

  12-time NBA. Milwaukee Bucks in 71, was Kareem there at that time?

• 1:54:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep going, Rob. I have no respect for this list now.

• 1:55:01Adam Sosnick?

  Tim Duncan, Mr. Fundamental. Here we go.

• 1:55:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Give it a frickin' break. He's got five championships.

• 1:55:05Adam Sosnick?

  Pat already doesn't like this list. Let's see what's going on here. Larry Legend at 7.

• 1:55:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Championships.

• 1:55:11Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, but you gotta put a white, it's reverse DEI for the NBA.

• 1:55:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 1:55:15Adam Sosnick?

  Get that one white guy. Come on, guys. Let's have a little respect.

• 1:55:17Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so now you put Bill Russell.

• 1:55:19Adam Sosnick?

  10 championships, how many?

• 1:55:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me, but look at his stats. 15.1, 20, 20 and a half. Now you put him here because he can have a championship?

• 1:55:25Adam Sosnick?

  22 rebounds, PBD.

• 1:55:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I totally get it, but then put Rodman in there with 17.

• 1:55:29Adam Sosnick?

  Rodman didn't have 22 rebounds?

• 1:55:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep going, keep going. Chamberlain?

• 1:55:32Adam Sosnick?

  Wilt.

• 1:55:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Five ahead of a.

• 1:55:33Adam Sosnick?

  That was 100 ladies that night.

• 1:55:36Patrick Bet-David?

  He deserves to be in the top five. I'm with that. Keep going. Magic Johnson, 4.

• 1:55:40Adam Sosnick?

  You're gonna have Kareem.

• 1:55:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, I interviewed Magic.

• 1:55:42Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:43Patrick Bet-David?

  In front of a couple thousand people at Fort Worth Convention Center. And in front of everybody, he says, let me make it, make it very clear. Kobe is the greatest Laker of all time. They have him at fourth place and Kobe at 10th place? Give it a break. Keep going, Rob. Keep going. Kareem 3, okay, that's, that's fine. That argument can be made for sure. Keep going.

• 1:56:05Adam Sosnick?

  Number 2.

• 1:56:06Patrick Bet-David?

  LeBron and then Michael.

• 1:56:08Adam Sosnick?

  And then Michael. Okay.

• 1:56:09Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a terrible, matter of fact.

• 1:56:10Adam Sosnick?

  What's wrong with that list?

• 1:56:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Terrible. Let's just transition away from.

• 1:56:13Speaker 04

  And by the way, I just, I looked it up. Oscar Robinson, Oscars center in 1971 was a very young Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

• 1:56:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Dumbest list I've seen.

• 1:56:23Speaker 04

  By the way, in other, in other words, Robertson doesn't get the championships without, with that one championship without Kareem.

• 1:56:30Adam Sosnick?

  Well, Kobe doesn't get championships without Shaq. We won't go there, but stop. Shaq won all the MVPs that, that.

• 1:56:35Speaker 04

  It's where Oscar was on the list. It's the whole point.

• 1:56:38Adam Sosnick?

  Question for the boss.

• 1:56:39Speaker 04

  Which was my point.

• 1:56:40Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so LeBron is defending Bronny Jr., LeBron James Jr. Hypothetically, you know, you've got kids. You know, you have one kid that is very politically inclined. His name is Patrick Bet David Jr., Tico. So let's say there comes a day when Tico's starting to do content. Maybe he's one of the co-hosts here. And he has a slow start. It's his rookie year. And maybe there's a Stephen A. Smith out there that starts to talk trash or someone in the comments about your son. Don't you think there's gonna be a different?

• 1:57:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Stephen A. did it?

• 1:57:16Adam Sosnick?

  The way that, the way that, yeah, I guess there's two different people here.

• 1:57:20Patrick Bet-David?

  The way Stephen A. did it was pure fair play.

• 1:57:23Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:57:23Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 1:57:24Adam Sosnick?

  So if he's talking about Tico that way?

• 1:57:25Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no problem.

• 1:57:26Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, walk me through this, please.

• 1:57:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Because, because he didn't disrespect. He just said he doesn't belong in the league. If, let's just say somebody gets on the podcast, they say, you don't belong in the league to do podcasts. When we started doing podcasts, like, you're not a podcaster. You're not a this, you're not a that. What are you thinking creating content? Yeah, you're supposed to say that. And then you, I, I said that to a guy today, a guy menexed me today, says, let me tell you, I think I'm in the top 1% of podcasters in the world and he's got 4,000 subscribers. And I'm trying to compliment him, then all of a sudden it becomes so hype and I'm like, bro, forgive me for complimenting you. I actually, let me take that back. You're not in the top 1% of podcasters. Now you sound arrogant. Now you sound entitled. Now you sound this and.

• 1:58:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't even know if you're asking questions for the first seven years of us doing YouTube. Every other month, we would hire a consultant for YouTube to learn about what stats and datas and what mistakes we're making. We didn't know if we were gonna be in the space for this long to improve. Till today, we're trying to find a way to improve. Constantly, we're coming up with new strategies and things that we're doing. No, I have no problem with that kind of feedback being given. You disrespect, it's a different story.

• 1:58:33Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:58:33Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and I don't think Stephen A. crossed the line with disrespect. No, but LeBron is a passive aggressive guy, and LeBron is a guy that thinks. There's never been a superstar in the history of the NBA that thinks as highly of himself as LeBron does. Never. There's never been one that thinks highly of himself as LeBron does, that is such a, a drama. Uh, look, to me, it's mathematically impossible for LeBron to be. I have him as second, right?

• 1:59:00Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:00Patrick Bet-David?

  But I can easily see somebody making an argument to show. There's videos of LeBron. He gets hit like this, he touches his head and he starts scratching it like he got punched in the head.

• 1:59:10Adam Sosnick?

  How can a man take such abuse?

• 1:59:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's the videos, right? So, no, I don't know. I, I just don't see that.

• 1:59:16Adam Sosnick?

  Real quick, my, uh, go ahead.

• 1:59:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 1:59:18Adam Sosnick?

  Well, my justification for why he maybe feels entitled that way, we've never seen anybody go from literally 10th grade being the chosen one, King James, and then literally delivering. Because every other player who's in that conversation, especially in the social media age, MJ got cut from his high school team. So there was always a chip on his shoulder. Okay, he wasn't the GOAT.

• 1:59:42Speaker 04

  Kobe went to high school.

• 1:59:43Adam Sosnick?

  Kobe, remember he had his kill list?

• 1:59:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Kobe averaged 7.2 points a game his rookie season. He averaged 15 points a second season. Rob, can you go to his stats?

• 1:59:51Adam Sosnick?

  MJ wasn't the number one pick. We saw Sam Bowie the other night, Sam Bowie.

• 1:59:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Sam Bowie fighting.

• 1:59:56Speaker 04

  Portland.

• 1:59:57Adam Sosnick?

  We saw, Sam Bowie was picked ahead and he had a chip on his shoulder. Kobe was drafted by Charlotte. And then traded for, I think, Vladivac to the Lakers. Chip on his shoulder. Kobe didn't come out his rookie year ball out. He was, he wasn't even an all-star, I don't think.

• 2:00:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that showing first year, Rob? How many points per game is it? 7.6? Is that minutes? That's minutes. The first one is minutes, second one is, yeah.

• 2:00:19Adam Sosnick?

  But LeBron.

• 2:00:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, 7.2, I said 7.2, 7.6. Second year average 15, then he went to 99, then 22, and then boom.

• 2:00:28Adam Sosnick?

  This is Kobe?

• 2:00:29Patrick Bet-David?

  From 2001, 28 points again, 25.

• 2:00:31Speaker 04

  And now we're in the championship lane there, 2000, 2001, 2002.

• 2:00:34Adam Sosnick?

  LeBron is the only person that we've seen literally say, "High school, to NBA, I'm gonna be the GOAT." Turned out to be that dude, and delivered. So I can understand why he has such an inflated ego. Now, that hasn't worked out well for the league, because their ratings have tanked. I know that you've gone, you've gone back and forth.

• 2:00:55Speaker 06

  And you know why, and you know why he's the most unattractive? Well, besides, it's really funny if you guys look at it. Bob, you don't have to look it up, but it's funny. He tries to act like he's somebody that he's not. The fact that every time he has a book in his hand, like it's reading, he's reading it, it's always on the first page. The guy is not, and I'm not, I'm not, it is what it is. I mean, he left high school and went there. I don't know how freaking, he's not articulate, like you said, Adam, his vernacular isn't so freaking great, but you know what? Let's just, look at how unattractive of the-

• 2:01:22Adam Sosnick?

  Page four, Ben.

• 2:01:23Speaker 06

  It might be page four with a towel. He's reading the towel, the, but anyway. And it comes to unattractiveness, he lost it, and it all started shifting, and then the league suffered for it. Because think about it, remember when he slammed that cop and tweeted, "You're next" for Officer Nicholas Reardon after he shot the Mackay Bryant? From stopping her from stabbing another girl, he was like, "You're next" to the cop, okay? He mocked Kyle Rittenhouse for crying on the stand. He stayed silent on China, the human rights thing, when he attacked Daryl Morey, remember that, for supporting Hong Kong? All this to protect his Nike and his NBA money. He talks about being oppressed, but he lives like a freaking king.

• 2:02:06Speaker 06

  Literally, and he backs all the woke policies and against conservative values. That's why he's an unattractive guy, unattractive player, not a, and my-

• 2:02:17Speaker 06

  point of view, not a good dude. And then, yeah, when Stephen A is just speaking facts and you let it hurt your feelings. And then you try to embarrass him in front of everybody. No, that's my problem. You know, you're not going to do anything to him. You know, you weren't going to hit him and you know, he wasn't going to hit you. That's the problem. You were just trying to embarrass him and look tough. You ain't going to do nothing, bro. Even on the shore, you're going to fight him in the street. Give me a break, bro. If you were really about that life, you would have walked right up to him and punched him in the face right there.

• 2:02:42Adam Sosnick?

  No, that's not professional. He's a professional.

• 2:02:45Speaker 06

  No, Adam. That's not professional. Going up to Stephen A and then going like, oh, Stephen A, hold on. And then saying Stephen A was happy he's going to go celebrate that I'm talking about him. No, you're the cause for it. You're sensitive and you're talking to another level and Stephen A matched you at it. Who's winning in this?

• 2:03:02Adam Sosnick?

  Actually, I actually give him respect for going up and talking to the source. If he would have tweeted it like most people would do these days, all the tough guys with the Twitter fingers. He went up and said, listen, I have a problem with what you did. Here's the deal. I'm not going to punch you in the face. I have a game to play, but I have an issue with it. That's what a man does.

• 2:03:19Speaker 06

  On the third quarter of a game in the middle of everything.

• 2:03:21Adam Sosnick?

  It's called the third quarter. It's because it's halftime. The third quarter is about to start.

• 2:03:26Speaker 06

  Well, you know what you do? You're in the show business. He could have got his phone number and said, yo, dog. As a man, you don't go and do that. Because you ain't going to do shit.

• 2:03:33Adam Sosnick?

  There's nothing to do. He's talking to him like a man.

• 2:03:36Speaker 06

  Adam, I'm about that life, bro. If I'm gonna, Adam, if I have a real problem with you about my son and I'm mad, I'm not going to go up to him like me, me, me, me, me and walk away. Text him. No. Get his, you don't think he got his number?

• 2:03:46Adam Sosnick?

  Real tough. You're a tough texter, Vinny.

• 2:03:48Speaker 06

  No, what I'm saying is if you're going to go up to somebody like that, Adam, what do you want to do? What do you want to do? That's where I'm from. Sorry, bro. Sorry.

• 2:03:56Adam Sosnick?

  Text you right now, Vinny.

• 2:03:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, are you about that life?

• 2:03:58Speaker 06

  Tom, you, Tom, I want to ask you one question. I have to be proud of. Tom, are you, not about, are you about that life?

• 2:04:07Speaker 04

  I don't know, but when me and my homies were talking about this situation. Me and my homies were talking about this situation and we weren't down with the flop at all.

• 2:04:18Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:04:18Speaker 04

  No, I got two things to say. And the first thing I'm going to say. One man was doing his job.

• 2:04:23Patrick Bet-David?

  7,000 people voted, Rob.

• 2:04:25Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Our audience just voted, 7,000 people voted on who's the greatest NBA player of all time? Jordan, LeBron, Kobe. Jordan got 80 votes, Kobe got 10, LeBron got 5%.

• 2:04:37Speaker 04

  80%.

• 2:04:37Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 2:04:38Speaker 04

  80%.

• 2:04:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't care if you guys ever get anything wrong on politics or anything else, we can fight, you can mannequin, you can talk shit, you can say whatever you want with Trump and all this other stuff. I love you guys.

• 2:04:49Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 2:04:50Patrick Bet-David?

  To everybody that voted here. You're my type of people. Come to the cigar lounge, be a member so we can have these types of talk.

• 2:04:58Speaker 04

  Vinny, I just tough text you right now.

• 2:04:59Patrick Bet-David?

  That is great.

• 2:05:00Speaker 04

  Hang on, hang on. I challenge you, bro. I challenge you. No, no, no.

• 2:05:03Speaker 06

  Adam got a text me and he said, I want to kiss you.

• 2:05:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom's giving it up here on his own list. He's about that life.

• 2:05:07Speaker 04

  We're gonna go to another story.

• 2:05:08Speaker 06

  Go ahead, homie.

• 2:05:09Speaker 04

  I, there's two things in my mind that are very, very clear. One is, I thought Stephen A. Smith was doing his job and doing it very professionally and the reaction he had, I do not think was acting. I happen to believe, my opinion, that what I saw there, LeBron knew the cameras were rolling.

• 2:05:25Speaker 06

  That's what I'm saying.

• 2:05:25Speaker 04

  LeBron knew what was going on. I think he took it personal, it wasn't about defending his son, I think he took it personal, he was upset, and I think he walked in front of Stephen A. there on the court to do the equivalent of take a flop for the cameras. That's what I, that's what I think. And I think Stephen A. was just doing his job, and I think he was very articulate. And I, I applaud Stephen A. for stepping up and saying, listen, I don't think it's about your home, I think it's about what we're doing here at Crypto.com Arena. That's what I was speaking about, we're not speaking about this, don't try to make it what it's not.

• 2:06:02Patrick Bet-David?

  All you had to do was say, I'm about that life.

• 2:06:05Speaker 06

  Tom, that's your, buddy, I was making Rob cry.

• 2:06:07Speaker 04

  Tom, I know.

• 2:06:08Patrick Bet-David?

  7,100 people voted, Michael, 80%.

• 2:06:12Speaker 06

  Wow, Michael Jordan.

• 2:06:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Kobe, 10, LeBron, 5.

• 2:06:15Speaker 04

  Tom, you know what?

• 2:06:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Greatest flapper of all time.

• 2:06:18Speaker 04

  I think that issue.

• 2:06:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Greatest flapper.

• 2:06:20Speaker 04

  When he says, I wear 23, I wear it to honor Jordan, I think he thinks he's the, the one, and it bothers him.

• 2:06:28Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, you know what, I gotta tell people, you know what Tom and I do on the weekends? Rolling down the street.

• 2:06:33Speaker 06

  Smoking hando.

• 2:06:35Adam Sosnick?

  Smoking hando.

• 2:06:35Speaker 06

  Sipping on gin and juice.

• 2:06:36Adam Sosnick?

  Sipping on gin and juice. With what, Tom? With my mind on my money and my money on my mind.

• 2:06:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's.

• 2:06:41Adam Sosnick?

  Every time, Tom.

• 2:06:42Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, last night, yesterday, it's, it's, uh, we're on the flight. We're trying to sleep. There is so much turbulence. It's mathematically impossible.

• 2:06:52Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:06:52Patrick Bet-David?

  But this lady, Mateo, ordered enough food for a party of forty.

• 2:06:56Speaker 06

  Oh my god.

• 2:06:57Patrick Bet-David?

  This, this, they keep bringing food. And then they bring this salad to Tom. Tom is panicking.

• 2:07:03Speaker 06

  We're all done. We're done.

• 2:07:05Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what is this? So no, this is your salad.

• 2:07:09Speaker 06

  Was it chopped? Was it chopped salad?

• 2:07:11Speaker 04

  After, this is after the steak. This is after the cheese board. After twenty minutes of good conversation.

• 2:07:16Speaker 06

  Fruit, yogurt.

• 2:07:17Speaker 04

  Here comes a Cobb salad that's the size of Rhode Island.

• 2:07:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You guys have to see this. You know what? I'm gonna put this in, should I put behind the scenes? I'll, I'll just send it to you guys.

• 2:07:24Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:07:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you play this?

• 2:07:26Speaker 04

  Hey, if you're in our circle, you get to see this.

• 2:07:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Rob. Well, on the circle, there's a lot of cool, a lot of cool debates going on this circle right now, which is great. The PBD Podcast Circle. But I'll play this clip.

• 2:07:34Speaker 06

  I've never eaten this much.

• 2:07:36Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the salad being arrived to, uh, to Tom. On the flight back, by the way, it was, I think, turbulent straight three hours.

• 2:07:42Speaker 06

  The whole time, I couldn't, I didn't, I didn't sleep at all. We have not slept.

• 2:07:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Beep, beep.

• 2:07:46Speaker 06

  Which is weird on an airplane.

• 2:07:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Beep.

• 2:07:49Speaker 06

  Well, while, while, while he's doing it, while he's doing it, wouldn't it have been funny though, if in that LeBron, Stephen A. Smith interaction, if LeBron went, "Hey, man, just chill." And LeBron, like, if he flopped at that moment, I would have pissed on my pants.

• 2:08:02Patrick Bet-David?

  That would have been.

• 2:08:03Speaker 06

  Because I wouldn't have put it past him.

• 2:08:04Speaker 04

  I think it was a metaphorical flop.

• 2:08:05Speaker 06

  Look at this, Tom, Tom.

• 2:08:06Speaker 04

  For the camera.

• 2:08:07Speaker 06

  Well, he just ate for an hour. And then he just gets this salad. Look at Tom's face.

• 2:08:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have audio or no?

• 2:08:14Speaker 06

  It's on two speed, Rob, in the audios. Yeah, there you go.

• 2:08:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back a little bit.

• 2:08:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah. So, so Tom, you're just.

• 2:08:22Speaker 06

  What is that? That is a Cobb salad that Tom ordered. Tom, you're gonna finish that? I mean, I mean, look at the paint, the truck.

• 2:08:30Speaker 06

  That was a little side salad. Tom, that is not a side salad. That is a house salad.

• 2:08:35Speaker 04

  Little baby, we're going to Mario.

• 2:08:36Speaker 06

  What'd you order that time?

• 2:08:38Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're full? Did you order that? No, I thought I was getting a little panini sandwich and a salad.

• 2:08:43Speaker 06

  Oh, no, it's over. A panini?

• 2:08:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, enjoy it, buddy. We're watching you. Go for it.

• 2:08:50Patrick Bet-David?

  He didn't touch it. He didn't touch. One cucumber, now one tomato, nothing. Oh, man. He didn't touch it. But anyways, all right, gang. No, she took it and put it in the fridge. I just, oh.

• 2:08:59Speaker 06

  And then she threw it away because nobody ate it. It's over.

• 2:09:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Gang. She might have ate it. What is today? Today's what? Thursday, Pat. Today's, today's?

• 2:09:07Speaker 06

  Thursday, the 27th.

• 2:09:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Today's Thursday. Anyways, Rob, what have we got going on this, this week? We got nothing else going on this week. No, Monday, we'll have an interview coming out. Stay tuned for more. Oh, my God.

• 2:09:19Speaker 06

  Bum, bum, bum.

• 2:09:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, what is it?

• 2:09:21Speaker 06

  You can tell me later.

• 2:09:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, get, get in the podcast circles to be the first to know of whatever it is. That's right. If you're in the circle, you already know who's coming on next for the podcast. Go to Circle, go to Menech, download the app, join the circle. Future looks bright, buddy. Take care, guys. God bless. Bye, bye, bye, bye.

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