Pod Insights PBD Podcast "I Was Inside The CULT!" – Lindy Li EXPOSES DNC Cover-Up, Billion-Dollar SCAM & Obama’s 3rd Term | PBD Podcast | Ep. 554 About this episode Former Mid-Atlantic Regional Chair of the DNC, Lindy Li, sits down with Patrick Bet-David to reveal shocking behind-the-scenes SECRETS of the Democratic Party.
From Biden’s cognitive decline, Kamala Harris’ meltdowns, and the hidden power players controlling Washington, to how donor money was REALLY spent—this interview is a must-watch.
Li shares jaw-dropping stories about party infighting, political cover-ups, and what finally pushed her to switch sides.
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0:29 Patrick Bet-David? How much time did you spend with Kamala?
0:31 Speaker 02 A lot. They came to my house. I hosted them for free. I'm one of those rich [bleep] who give money. I don't get paid for any of this.
0:37 Patrick Bet-David? Nothing?
0:38 Speaker 02 Nothing. I feel like it stole half a decade of my life. And I realized conservatives were right all along. That's what we're siding between. The continued existence of our republic or an authoritarian regime. And President Trump wants America to prosper.
0:53 Patrick Bet-David? What really happened in 2021 Biden won?
0:56 Speaker 02 They gave us talking points on a daily basis.
0:58 Patrick Bet-David? Who's they?
0:59 Speaker 02 The campaign, the White House. We were sent talking points and I'm going to catch so much flak. But I'm here to be honest. I do have one picture that looks kind of weird.
1:08 Patrick Bet-David? Of you and him?
1:09 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:11 Speaker 02 Oh my God, I'm about to make news, aren't I? Someone told me that he's having an affair with his wife, who's basically become a national hero.
1:19 Patrick Bet-David? Who did you learn that has the most power behind closed doors? That everybody fears, that no one knows about?
1:26 Speaker 02 There were three of them. They were essentially the president behind the scenes and Biden was just the facade.
1:32 Patrick Bet-David? Like what could they do?
1:34 Speaker 02 They could do anything.
1:35 Patrick Bet-David? What's anything?
1:37 Speaker 02 Run the world.
1:43 Patrick Bet-David? You know what I wanted to know about this podcast here? This sit down with Lindy Lee. I mean, she's been all over the place. I wanted to find out how all these people were behind closed doors and who really had the power. She gave three names of the most powerful people under Biden's administration. She broke down the relationship between Jill Biden and Kamala. Unbelievable. She spent time around Kamala, Hillary, every one of them. Obama, Clooney. We covered so many different things. And how the whole thing came about, I said, what happened behind closed doors when the President Trump had the assassination attempt? What was the reaction like on the DNC side? What did people say? Were some people celebrating? Lot was covered. You'll be blown away by this sit down with her. And I asked right off the bat, the question, a lot of people want to know.
2:26 Patrick Bet-David? Is she straight up? Is she real? Is she that? Is she this? And right in the first two minutes, you're gonna hear that question being asked. And for some of you, whether you agree with her or you don't agree with her, guess what? She's also on Manect. So you can go to Manect. QR code is probably gonna be right here. Ask her any questions you got as well on Manect. Enjoy this interview with Lyndee Lee.
2:56 Patrick Bet-David? Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here. You are a one on one? My son's right.
3:12 Patrick Bet-David? Okay, so we got a special guest here today. Let me tell you who we have. We have Lyndee Lee. If you watch television after election, you will recognize the face because she was all over the place. I think the first time I saw it was on a Chris Cuomo, when Chris Cuomo had her on, it's like, hey, here's what's going on. Democratic donor, turns, flips, all this stuff. And next thing you know, she's all over the place on the conservative outlets. Everybody's putting her on. She's coming back and forth telling stories, different podcasts, different shows. And then we've been talking, eventually we said, you know, let's sit down and have a conversation together. To give the exact title was Mid-Atlantic Regional Chair at the DNC. And now a conservative, and she's got a lot of enemies. And I got some questions I want to ask her, and she's straight up
3:56 Patrick Bet-David? open to any questions. So having said that, it's great to have you on a podcast.
3:59 Speaker 02 Pat, it's so good to be here. Honestly, you are a superstar.
4:03 Patrick Bet-David? Thank you. How are you handling all these shots you're taking? People are coming after you left and right.
4:08 Speaker 02 You know, it's actually, I was just texting somebody in the middle of the night, a few hours ago, and I'm saying something, after my Sean Ryan interview, something cracked. I'm no longer the same person I was before that interview. The amount of hate. And the amount of venom in that hate has altered me, I think, hopefully not permanently, but there's just something just snapped. It's just, and what did I do? Let's think about what actually happened. I told the truth, right? That's really what happened. And there are, on the right, there are people who are pissed off that I jumped the line, so to speak, that I'm getting media attention. On the left, they're so angry that I told the truth because they don't want to be held accountable for the billions that they set on fire. They don't want to be held accountable for the conspiracy around Biden's Congress.
4:52 Patrick Bet-David? So, in the last week, I'll just tell you in the last week what happened. When I'm doing an interview, I'll ask peers, "What do you think? What do you think? What do you think?" And these are the different responses I got from people, just so you know that. One response was, "She's my favorite. I love her. She exposed everybody. You have to talk to her. She's amazing. Let her talk. Let her tell all the dirt, the stuff that the DNC has done, etc., etc." Great. And by the way, that was a lot of people that were on that side. I'm at a Goldman Sachs event two days ago in Miami, and one of the vice chair is giving a talk to a small group of 40, 50 people. One of the investors that's their client that's there comes up to me, watches a podcast. He says, "Let me tell you about this. What
5:36 Patrick Bet-David? do you think about this Lindy Lee girl?" And he's telling me this. I'm like, "What do you think about her?" So I'm curious, I'm getting ready. "I think she's a plant. I think she's a grifter. I think she's a this."
5:46 Speaker 02 Plant from where?
5:47 Patrick Bet-David? Well, he's telling me this, and this is a guy that's a half a billionaire guy, he's a money guy. So I said, "Let me ask you, who did you vote for?" "I voted for Trump." "Really?" "So are you, would you consider yourself a Rhino? Were you Nikki Haley?" "I can't stand Nikki Haley." "Really?" "And you don't like Lindy?" "I don't like Lindy." "Very interesting. So you're not with it?" "No, you're not." "All right." So then I'm sitting there myself, I'm saying, you know, the tweets from you, right in the past. You've seen these tweets that were in the past. I mean, this is just-
6:13 Speaker 02 Let's talk about it.
6:15 Patrick Bet-David? Right. Just in the last four years, I'll give you some of these things you said, right? 2020, February 26, "Joe Biden has the biggest heart of any of the candidates. He also doesn't raise our blood pressure or alienate 70% of the party, rest of America." That's four years ago, five years ago. Then there's another one. "Happy National Joe Day." I took this in SF last year. "Every time we meet, Biden is kind and compassionate." That's that one. Great. No problem. You're saying nice things about Biden. Another one here is, "I was with President Biden a few minutes after the debate tonight. Here we are at the watch party. He was amazing and kind, as he always is, remembering tiny details about me and my family. I don't care what the pundits say about this great man. I will always be Team Biden." That's June of 2024, say, nine months ago.
7:00 Patrick Bet-David? Then there's another one here, July 21st, "I fully endorse Kamala Harris for president. She is a fierce champion for everything we hold dear, including our cherished democracy, productive reproductive rights, etc., etc." Another one, "To the haters out there, underestimate the Vice President Kamala Harris at your peril. She is tremendous force for good." Another one, "Nikki Haley is just jealous because Kamala Harris is more powerful and closer at the presidency than she'll ever be." I mean, I can go on and on and on and read all this stuff, right? I will tell you, I think it's very important that you're talking about it, but I wrote two other things down that maybe caused you to want to leave, and I'd be curious to know. Any one of these, I'd love for you to just get into it so the audience knows, and then we can get into all the questions. Did someone offend you?
7:44 Patrick Bet-David? Did somebody try to bully you? Did something happen at the end with just the camel, you know, it was like, "I am absolutely done with this bullying, with this threat, with all this bullshit. I'm out of here. I'm gonna tell all your BS, because you guys didn't keep your commitment, you guys didn't play the game, and you left." What was it for you to make this dramatic of a change within a few days?
8:06 Speaker 02 First of all, it was a few months. I know, um, this is not what I anticipated at all. And thank you for, um, you know, you're always extremely fair to your guests. So I, I know that I have critics out there, and I'm happy to address all of their questions and concerns. Um, it wasn't just bullying. Bullying, I can take. I've been hated on and screamed at and spit upon all my life, and I'm sure you have too. You know what it's like. It's just part of the cost of doing business.
8:35 Patrick Bet-David? For sure.
8:36 Speaker 02 Bullying is one thing. The death threats, the smear campaigns, the cancer culture campaigns, that's a whole nother level. Going after my parents who have nothing to do with this, finding their address, harassing these two, like they're getting, they're getting up there.
8:51 Patrick Bet-David? This is your former colleagues?
8:52 Speaker 02 Oh, absolutely. My parents who have absolutely nothing at all to do with this. They just love me. That's their only crime. Like to drag them in, to drag my brother in, that is just so, I'm, I'm getting like heated just talking about it. That is not acceptable.
9:07 Patrick Bet-David? In what way did they do that?
9:09 Speaker 02 Messaging my parents with these threats. My mom, I have receipts. I go, I don't know, we got, I can send you the screenshot after my, my brother telling me my mom has been freaking out all day because of the death threats and she had to file a police report. It's just so over the top. Like going after me is one thing. I can take it, but my mom who has not, it just so, it's just out of bounds.
9:31 Patrick Bet-David? And how, how soon was it? After the election? Like?
9:34 Speaker 02 A week or two. It wasn't at that point I was just asking questions. Like, um, it wasn't even, I was like, what happened to the 2.5 billion dollars we raised? Why did we spend it on Beyonce? Why did we spend 2.5? Why did we spend millions of dollars on Oprah? Like legitimate questions that needed to be answered. But the amount of hate I got for that was just overwhelming. And the final straw, the moment that I knew that I needed to leave was actually around Christmas Eve, when the chair of the party, he's the biggest clown that the Democratic Party has ever, like honestly, in the, in recent history, I, I can't think of a more incompetent boob than this man. And if you just look at him,
10:14 Patrick Bet-David? It's pretty bad to be an incompetent boob. That's not good. DNC Chair Rob, can you pull up, which one are you talking about?
10:19 Speaker 02 Jamie Harrison.
10:20 Patrick Bet-David? Okay, I got you. Tell me why. Tell me why.
10:22 Speaker 02 You can go on his timeline. Just look at his tweets from yesterday. They're all about me. If he had spent more time attacking Republicans or actually running a campaign, we wouldn't, and you know, if he had spent half the time he did attacking me on attacking Republicans, we wouldn't, they wouldn't be in this situation. Do you see it? He's calling me a narcissist. He's showing my private communications. This guy is obsessed.
10:46 Patrick Bet-David? What's he showing, Rob? Can we see it? Lindy Lee, you're a narcissist and the only question you raised to me were those asking how you could get another picture with the VP or how you could get? Into the reverse seating areas of rallies, grifters go into grift, you are a fraud. But the next time you want to name, check me on Newsmax. Make sure you share some of the notes you send.
11:09 Speaker 02 You know what set him off? I said that he engaged in a conspiracy to hide Biden's cognitive decline. Instead of engaging with me on the content and substance of my criticisms, he's doing this childish five-year-old shit. Like honestly, grow up. Are you a toddler? And all through, all for the past couple of months, he's been tweeting gifs at me of like raging dumpster fires. Instead of answering the basic question, why did we squander the hard-earned money of the American people? We had a duty of care to them, a trust. If people are giving money to the Democratic Party, we needed to be good stewards of those funds, not blowing it on five-star hotels for ourselves or fancy dinners or whatever, which is what he did.
11:53 Speaker 02 And the fact that he chose not to run for reelection tells you everything. That no one has confidence. And I'm still in touch with Democratic donors at that level. You know, the Uniparty stuff, there's a certain element of truth to that. I still am friends with a lot of Democratic donors. All of them think so little of this guy. He failed upwards. He lost bitterly to Lindsey Graham and then got his job as DNC chair because he was friends with James Clyburn. But I don't even want to waste oxygen talking about him. But he is just an emblem of what is wrong with this Democratic Party. They don't want to answer substantive questions. They go for these personal attacks.
12:36 Patrick Bet-David? But what happened though? What I want to know is, you know, you hear stories. You know, Reagan used to be a Democrat. He left the party and he wanted to become a Republican. And you read the story, something happened. You know, you you see, normally, it's the other way around, the left leaving to the right. I mean, we saw Bobby leaving. I don't know if he's a Republican, but he's working with Trump. Tulsi leaving, you know, independent and probably Republican, and she's over here, right? You see some of the people from the left. But what did they do to you behind closed doors? When you're asking, and who are you in direct contact with? Like, who is calling you out? Who is saying things to you? Who is not answering you? Was there a moment where you said, if you guys don't do X, Y, Z, I'm out? Did that moment ever happen?
13:21 Speaker 02 Well, he was the top of the chair, he was the top of the party.
13:23 Patrick Bet-David? And how often are you communicating with him?
13:25 Speaker 02 He only communicates in public. He doesn't answer any private communications. He wants the drama. He's using me for clickbait, to be clear. He doesn't want to answer any questions. And but I, it wasn't just one single incident. I've been shifting rightward for the past couple of years. There are a lot of things in my personal life that has, that have egged me on here. And, I mean, I don't, I don't want to bore you with the details, but there are a lot of deeply personal things that shaped, you know, as a conservative, we're basically, conservative is a liberal mugged by reality. And I have literally been mugged by people on the street in Philadelphia by a progressive, which is run by a progressive George Soros-funded prosecutor.
14:07 Speaker 02 I, this is very personal, but it's true, and people might not recognize the impact of it. I was on birth control for five years. I was told to get on it by a liberal doctor, who basically marketed it as something that would solve, I, I have health issues. I wasn't, I didn't go on it for less conscious behavior or anything like that. It was supposed to help with something. But it completely altered my mind, almost. And having, when I decided to come off it in May 2023, I feel like I reclaimed my life. And I realized conservatives were right all along. And people might ridicule me for citing this as a reason, but I feel like it stole half
14:51 Speaker 02 a decade of my life. Half a decade that I was kind of living on the sidelines of what I could have been. And so I'm playing catch-up. I've been playing catch-up for the past two years because I bought into that ideology, that birth control was gonna, you know, it would herald independence, a new era for women. But it actually just hijacked my mind. And so that happened, and then... The assaults on the street and I've always been conservative. I've been Christian all my life and the party has just been lurching to the left. I want nothing at all. It makes me sick to, I don't want nothing to do with the woke and the trans ideology. I didn't sign up
15:30 Speaker 02 for that. That was a recent development, right? In the past five, six years, um, the Democratic Party that I joined was, was rooted in middle-class values of moderation, fiscal responsibility, you know?
15:47 Patrick Bet-David? While, while you're there, and, and I get that, but to me, you know, while you're in it and you're raising the money, 10 million, 2 million, 3 million, you're raising millions for these guys, right? Uh, what's the incentive? Meaning, i- is there a comp plan? Is there a way you're getting paid the more money you raise?
16:06 Speaker 02 No, no, by the way, I wasn't paid, I'm a donor. I'm one of those rich fucks who give money. I don't get paid for any of this.
16:11 Patrick Bet-David? Nothing?
16:12 Speaker 02 Nothing.
16:12 Patrick Bet-David? So what was your motivation to do that?
16:14 Speaker 02 I love to do it. I love politics. I love to, I just love it. I, my entire life. I want to be very clear and some people don't understand English or don't understand the English that I speak. Let me say it one more time. I was not paid a single dime to raise money for Biden, Harris, or anybody. They came to my house. I hosted them for free. My family, we own a lot of real estate. We donated a church. We donated buildings. We didn't, we didn't collect, actually Oprah should have done what I did. We made in-kind contributions and we covered the rent and the production costs. Oprah was reimbursed. She got 2 million dollars. We didn't take any money. So I was not paid. I want to be very clear. Those people calling me a grifters, they're either ignorant or they're liars.
16:57 Patrick Bet-David? This is very important, though, to say this. So nobody ever paid you?
17:00 Speaker 02 And no one, are you paying me today?
17:01 Patrick Bet-David? No, not, no, but what I'm saying is during that time, so you're raising this money for no reason, then, then it has to be-
17:07 Speaker 02 The thrill of the game. I love it. I, I know it's so hard for people to understand, but I love to be in the center of the action. This is what I, having come from an authoritarian regime, that would have arrested me by now. Like, I was born in China where women in politics was just, it's just unthinkable. I consider it a sacred trust to be involved in politics, to shape American thought. It's such an honor to be here.
17:32 Patrick Bet-David? So you, it's for the love of the game. Now, uh, uh, okay, so let me be devil's advocate. Is it getting into parties? Is it get, getting you into meetings that maybe you wouldn't, wouldn't have gotten? If you wouldn't have given that money, is it getting you to meet?
17:45 Speaker 02 That's part of it, but that's not all of it. It's also just. I loved, you know, shaping as an influencer, as you know, someone who. Worked so hard. I'm a commissioner of Pennsylvania, by the way. I was appointed by the governor. To, you know, have an impact on my communities, on my state, on my Commonwealth. That's, that's amazing. It's something that as someone who's comes from a communist regime, I never would have had that opportunity. So I think even my brother who was born here, he doesn't understand why I care so much. He's in business. He just doesn't understand my fixation with politics.
18:19 Patrick Bet-David? So if you're raising money for these guys. And it has nothing to do with, you're not getting paid nothing. There's no, so. You have to raise money. Why weren't you raising money for Republicans? Why did you raise money for Democrats?
18:32 Speaker 02 I wonder that a lot during the campaign, actually.
18:34 Patrick Bet-David? Why didn't you?
18:36 Speaker 02 I really wonder that. I was like, actually someone, we, we were at a dinner with Doug Emhoff. And my guest was like, why are we here? We were just like, we were watching the antics on the stage and. My guest was like, we're on the wrong team, aren't we? This is in the middle of the campaign. So yeah, that question, I'm crying right now, just talking about it. But like in the middle, I was like. This isn't right. Like neither of us identified. The party was shifting so quickly. It was happening in like real time. And they worshiped like LGBTQIA plus, you know, every year there's another letter added. Next year, there's going to be like a Z attached or something. And, um.
19:13 Patrick Bet-David? They're thinking that's resonating with the people, but it's not. When, when you're in it with others who are also raising money and they're seeing how things are going. Were there any others like you on the inside that are like, what are we doing here? What the hell is going on? Are there other fundraisers like you out there?
19:29 Speaker 02 You mentioned Goldman Sachs. A lot of my donors, I, I'm sorry, people are going to call me a Wall Street shill and I did work for Morgan Stanley, so. But those, as a donor, you have to, you have to have money and. A lot of my donors are in finance and so they're, they're conservative, conservative leaning and they gave because I asked them to, not because they really believe. They gave because they're my friends. And a lot of them were like, oh, wow, this party is becoming like a little bit too much.
19:58 Speaker 02 But also, to be honest, many of them consider Trump to be a next essential threat to democracy. And for these folks, for the business people, they want a stable economy most of all. They want, you know, a prosperous stock market. They want America to prosper and to be stable and to not be turbulent.
20:17 Patrick Bet-David? Did you spend time with, how much time did you spend with Kamala, with Doug Emhoff?
20:21 Speaker 02 A lot.
20:22 Patrick Bet-David? Biden, how much time did you spend with them?
20:23 Speaker 02 A lot.
20:24 Patrick Bet-David? What did you, what, how different are they when the cameras are off versus when the cameras are on?
20:30 Speaker 02 Joe is who you, well, my, I was, again, speaking with somebody recently. I don't think he remembers his misdeeds from years ago.
20:38 Patrick Bet-David? Joe?
20:39 Speaker 02 I don't think he remembers. I think he's significantly mellowed in recent years. Doug Emhoff is the one that's most different in terms of public and private persona. Joe is just Joe. And I have a lot of criticism to level against Joe Biden. His decision to stay in that race was catastrophic for the nation. His decision to run in 2020 and his dissent right now. It's just such a disservice to our country. But on a personal level, he was always kind to me, always kind. And a part of me, and I'm going to catch so much flak, but I'm here to be honest. A part of me will always love him for that kindness that he's shown me. The kindness that he's shown my father, whom he's met. I introduced him to people that I love.
21:23 Speaker 02 He was always so deeply kind. And I'm sorry if that offends people because I know people want to think of Biden as some evil monster. And he did do really bad things, but on a one-on-one level with him, he was just.
21:40 Patrick Bet-David? What was that instance with you when he said, how's your husband doing? And, you know, which, was that when you kind of knew his memory is gone or was he?
21:47 Speaker 02 Well, I knew that before because when I hosted him on, I hosted him at the Mayflower, you know, the hotel in DC on May 1st. He.
21:57 Speaker 02 He stomped over my event by making news that day by calling our allies, India and Japan xenophobic. And I was like, oh my god. Like, it was supposed to be a joyful event. And an American president isn't supposed to be attacking our allies like that. But he either didn't remember, or I don't know what happened. He had a brain fart that day.
22:17 Patrick Bet-David? Now, the thing with the audience doesn't know, you're not married. So when he said, how's your husband doing?
22:22 Speaker 02 Well, most of the people at that event know me. They know that I don't have, you know. But everyone just laughed. Everyone just laughed.
22:30 Patrick Bet-David? Got it. So he wasn't trying to be funny. He was actually asking-
22:32 Speaker 02 Oh, no, no, no. That was earnest.
22:34 Patrick Bet-David? That was earnest. So he was asking the question.
22:35 Speaker 02 Yeah, absolutely.
22:36 Patrick Bet-David? So how was Doug Gimmhoff like? Was he charming, charismatic?
22:39 Speaker 02 Can I have something to say about Doug?
22:40 Patrick Bet-David? Sure.
22:41 Speaker 02 Those allegations against him of hitting his girlfriend? The mainstream media covered it up the same way they covered up Hunter Biden's laptop. It sickens me. If it were Trump, if someone accused Trump, and it wasn't just accused, it was credibly accused with multiple eyewitnesses, multiple contemporaneous people that the woman reached out to. If that had happened to Trump, people would have been, they would have raised hell. They would have asked him day in and day out, what happened? Can you think of one mainstream, mainstream media journalist who asked Doug? Absolutely not. Total crickets. Nobody asked him about hitting the girlfriend so hard she's spun around. And impregnating the nanny?
23:25 Speaker 02 Again, these are allegations. I want to be clear, but no one asked him about that. There are plenty of allegations flying around Trump, and he's always asked about them.
23:33 Patrick Bet-David? What did you guys say behind closed doors about the allegations?
23:36 Speaker 02 We believe the woman.
23:38 Patrick Bet-David? You believed the woman?
23:38 Speaker 02 I believe the woman.
23:40 Patrick Bet-David? While you're raising money, you believed the woman?
23:42 Speaker 02 Yeah. That came out, I think, in September. I actually stopped raising in September. I stopped. That's, I haven't told anyone, but I stopped. In September, I stopped.
23:52 Patrick Bet-David? When the story came out, that's the last time you start.
23:54 Speaker 02 That wasn't the catalyst, but as many things that I mentioned, again, it's not like one specific thing, but my disillusionment with the woke shit and everything and me realizing that Harris just wasn't up to the... For a few weeks, I was like, maybe she could do it, but she avoided the media for an entire month. Essentially, I don't know if you remember, like over the summer.
24:13 Patrick Bet-David? Oh, for sure. Yeah, she didn't want to talk to anybody. It was like forty-three, forty-five days. I don't know what the number was. Right after the announcement, for forty-five days, she didn't talk to media at all.
24:22 Speaker 02 And your wonderful producer, Tone, Tony, he was just mentioning, she wouldn't come on your podcast.
24:27 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah.
24:27 Speaker 02 If you are gonna be the leader of the free world, you should come on PBD Podcast and explain why you deserve the role. But, so Doug, what happened to Doug was one reason, because he paraded himself as this like, you know, really supportive husband who loves women, women, who's a feminist, and then behind closed doors, he's actually a predator and, well, alleged predator. I want to be very clear. Alleged, everyone. Alleged. Hasn't been proven in the court of law. I don't want to, he's a lawyer, so I don't want to be sued.
24:58 Patrick Bet-David? It's very good to use the word allegedly. It's a good insurance policy analogy. We even have a shirt called allegedly, just to make sure people are safe.
25:05 Speaker 02 I said alleged.
25:06 Patrick Bet-David? How was he with you, behind closed doors?
25:08 Speaker 02 He was nice. He was nice.
25:10 Patrick Bet-David? Nice, respectful, no?
25:13 Speaker 02 No, he didn't. I do have one picture that looks kind of weird.
25:18 Patrick Bet-David? Of you and him?
25:18 Speaker 02 Yeah. Am I allowed to, let me, can I pull it up right now? And then I, um, but I think he was just being nice.
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26:03 Speaker 02 Yeah, that's the one. How did you know?
26:05 Patrick Bet-David? Rob is good. Leave it to Rob to find it.
26:08 Speaker 02 Okay, that was an ill-fitting dress, so it wasn't entirely his fault.
26:11 Patrick Bet-David? So Rob, if you look at his hands, to be fair, he's worried to put his hands down.
26:15 Speaker 02 Exactly, exactly.
26:15 Patrick Bet-David? So he's playing it.
26:17 Speaker 02 He's playing it safe.
26:17 Patrick Bet-David? He's been trained well.
26:18 Speaker 02 By the way, that is the dinner. I told you there was a dinner where my guests and I were like, "What the hell are we doing here?" That was the dinner.
26:24 Patrick Bet-David? What month is that? Is that September?
26:25 Speaker 02 That was in 2023.
26:27 Patrick Bet-David? That's in 2023.
26:28 Speaker 02 That was in Arizona. And so Ruben Gallego was there, and then Gabby Giffords. Oh, if you want to know something about Gabby Giffords, this, we're going off on tangents, but you know who's married to her? Mark Kelly, Senator Mark Kelly?
26:40 Patrick Bet-David? Mm-hmm, Arizona.
26:42 Speaker 02 Um, someone who would know, he markets himself as this man who really loves his wife.
26:53 Speaker 02 Oh my God, I'm about to make news, aren't I? Someone who would know.
27:01 Speaker 02 He, someone told me that he's having an affair with his wife, who's basically become a national hero for being shot. And he is, you know, he portrays himself as this, like, superhero. Again, alleged, but this is someone, and I can tell you off-air, who told me, this is someone who would definitely know. And it just sickens me, you know, how the Democratic Party is filled with these people who pretend to be family guys, and they're just not.
27:26 Patrick Bet-David? Who was the biggest turn-off while you're in there, while you're around these guys? You're raising money for them. You're like, "Man, I want to help these guys out."
27:32 Speaker 02 Well, I mean, other than the DNC chair, who's a total clown. I mean, we already talked about it, right?
27:35 Patrick Bet-David? We already talked about it. Who was the biggest turn-off? Who was, who was rude? Who was disrespectful? Who was fake?
27:41 Speaker 02 Pete Buttigieg.
27:42 Patrick Bet-David? Who was two-faced? Who?
27:43 Speaker 02 Pete Buttigieg.
27:44 Patrick Bet-David? Really?
27:44 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
27:44 Patrick Bet-David? Why?
27:45 Speaker 02 Because he believes his own press releases and thinks he's hot shit. He thinks he's amazing. Um, and his team is just so rude, so rude, unbelievably rude.
27:56 Patrick Bet-David? Really?
27:57 Speaker 02 Yeah, it, it actually, I was, I'm deeply offended. I will never forget. I'm never going to remember the way that they treated me. It was awful, absolutely awful. And um, when I was sitting, I was given a front row seat to the DNC. There were people who actually tried to remove me. And I was like, Rosa, parking that shit. I was like, I'm not leaving. I'm just not, I earned this. I earned my right to sit here. And they, they, they literally tried to remove me from my seats. You can, you can see my photos of me in the front row. I just refused to budge.
28:28 Patrick Bet-David? And why were they trying to remove you? Just to remove you and put it with another donor?
28:31 Speaker 02 Exactly.
28:33 Patrick Bet-David? Huh. How much time did you spend with him?
28:37 Speaker 02 With Pete?
28:37 Patrick Bet-David? With Pete.
28:38 Speaker 02 Um, he, I spent the least amount of time with him. And after my brief interactions with him, I didn't want to.
28:44 Patrick Bet-David? How much time did you spend with Kamala?
28:46 Speaker 02 A lot.
28:46 Patrick Bet-David? How was she with you?
28:47 Speaker 02 I hosted many, I co-hosted many for fundraisers. She was, to be honest, she was a sweetheart.
28:52 Patrick Bet-David? She was a sweetheart? And did you?
28:55 Speaker 02 One time, actually, somebody accidentally broke my rib. I know it's a crazy story. I'm, I have like early onset osteoporosis. I told you I have some health issues. Someone broke my rib when he hugged me. And the next day Kamala invited me to our Christmas, well, I, I went to her Christmas party and she hugged me and my broken rib. And I didn't want to tell her the backstory, but oh my God, like that really hurts. But she hugged me out of love and um, that was the funniest story. It's something I'm gonna remember, like when the Vice President hugs your broken rib. She's, she was a sweetheart, yeah. But that doesn't erase the fact that she was no way qualified to be President of the United States. Like a lot of people are sweethearts, right?
29:34 Patrick Bet-David? Why do you think she wasn't qualified?
29:36 Speaker 02 Do we, you, I mean, you very, you don't answer the question.
29:39 Patrick Bet-David? I have my opinion, but I want to know yours. Because again, the difference between me and you is you were in there. You saw the thing.
29:45 Speaker 02 I didn't know right away. It took me a while to realize.
29:48 Patrick Bet-David? When was it when you said?
29:49 Speaker 02 Because I was so deep in the cult that I gave everyone the benefit of the doubt. Like I really wanted to believe that Joe is a good guy and he wanted the best for our country. I really wanted to believe that Kamala wasn't being treated fairly in the press. But when she was, you know, for the first couple of weeks, I was like, okay, maybe she's got it. Maybe we should give her a chance. And you read some of my tweets where I was extremely enthusiastic. You had to, you have to remember that I was a member of the leadership team. I was a member of the National Finance Committee. It was my job to say those things, to be a team player. Okay, I didn't want to, I want to, you know, make sure that people understand. I wasn't just spewing propaganda just because I had nothing better to do. They gave us talking points on a daily basis.
30:29 Patrick Bet-David? Who's they?
30:30 Speaker 02 The campaign, the White House. We were sent talking points.
30:34 Patrick Bet-David? Through, through what format?
30:35 Speaker 02 Through email. But from the Office of Digital Strategy, we would get emails from them.
30:41 Patrick Bet-David? And what would the email look like? What would it say?
30:43 Speaker 02 They would be, it'd be like, hey, team, here are the talking points that we're gonna discuss today. Oh, and something I should mention, every single time someone dared to question Biden's mental fitness, we were basically told to attack the person. For example, Robert Herr, remember him? The special counsel who's called Biden elderly man with a poor, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory.
31:08 Patrick Bet-David? And he was very respectful about it, the way he delivered the message. I thought he was very respectful.
31:13 Speaker 02 And actually, I was kind of taken back by the racist attacks the Democrats started launching against him. This party of diversity started lobbying, you know, racial animus towards this guy. And I, I should have learned from that, that they would do the same thing to me. I, I should have, but I, I mean, I should have. Now, now looking back, you know, 2020 is hindsight. But, so when something like that would happen, when someone dared to question his fitness, we were told to attack that person personally, to undermine his credibility, to assassinate their character.
31:46 Patrick Bet-David? This is an email telling you how to do it, or is that on conference calls or Zooms?
31:50 Speaker 02 If it was something bad like that, it would be on a conference call or Zoom, where there wouldn't be a paper trail. But we had very frequent conference calls.
31:56 Patrick Bet-David? What would they say? They would say, this person said this?
32:00 Speaker 02 This person has no credibility. This, just go after him. And we knew exactly what to do. Like, they didn't even...
32:08 Speaker 02 It was very mob-like. It was like very Tony Soprano. And then we were told to go after people like Merrick Garland for slow-walking the prosecution.
32:18 Patrick Bet-David? Garland? Out of all people?
32:20 Speaker 02 Yeah.
32:20 Patrick Bet-David? Really?
32:21 Speaker 02 Yeah, because a lot of libs think that he took his time.
32:24 Patrick Bet-David? Oh, wow.
32:25 Speaker 02 Yeah.
32:25 Patrick Bet-David? That is so-
32:26 Speaker 02 There's a huge contingent-
32:27 Patrick Bet-David? That is so strange to go after him.
32:29 Speaker 02 Because I know a lot of conservatives hate him too.
32:31 Patrick Bet-David? Oh, yeah. It's interesting. Who did you learn that has the most power behind closed doors that everybody fears? That no one knows about? Who had the most power?
32:42 Speaker 02 There were three of them. Steve Rish- oh, other than Jill Biden, that was a given, right? Jill Biden, the wife. She has tremendous power.
32:49 Patrick Bet-David? Really?
32:50 Speaker 02 Yeah, she was the president essentially over the past four years. Without a doubt. Without a doubt. I'm actually convinced that if it weren't for Jill, Biden would have not run for reelection. Jill and Hunter were the two people who kept him in the race. Because he was worried about his son's freedom, his only remaining son. And Jill didn't want to relinquish power. She was Lady McBiden, as they say. But the three people who had the most power, other than Jill, who's the obvious person, Steve Rishetti, Mike Donilon, Anita Dunn. The senior advisers. I was most close with Anita, who's actually very nice to me.
33:29 Patrick Bet-David? And what gives you, what gives them the kind of power they say they have? Like, what could they do?
33:35 Speaker 02 They could do anything.
33:36 Patrick Bet-David? What's anything?
33:38 Speaker 02 Run the world.
33:40 Patrick Bet-David? So you're telling me Anita Dunn, this is Anita Dunn, which you're saying she was nice to you?
33:44 Speaker 02 Yes.
33:45 Patrick Bet-David? And who were the other two you said?
33:46 Speaker 02 Steve Rishetti and Mike Donilon.
33:48 Patrick Bet-David? Rob, can you pull them up? Steve?
33:52 Patrick Bet-David? Did you say?
33:53 Speaker 02 Rishetti.
33:53 Patrick Bet-David? Rishetti?
33:54 Speaker 02 R-I-C-
33:55 Patrick Bet-David? Right there.
33:55 Speaker 02 It's Italian.
33:56 Patrick Bet-David? Rishetti?
33:57 Speaker 02 Yeah.
33:58 Patrick Bet-David? Political last service counsel to the President of Biden, who was also chairman of Jill Biden, Tony Rishetti. Previously served as chief of staff to Biden during the Obama administration. Deputy chief of operations under Clinton. In between stints in Democratic administrations, Rishetti worked as a lobbyist. And who was the last one you said?
34:14 Speaker 02 Mike Donilon. And what's significant about Donilon is that he was the one feeding Biden the fake poll numbers, saying that he could still beat Trump after the debate.
34:24 Patrick Bet-David? Him right here?
34:25 Speaker 02 Him, right there. And you know what these people have in common? Well, less so with Anita. Anita is kind of an Obama veteran. Donilon and Rashidi, the reason why they reached that pinnacle of power is because they're longtime friends with Biden. They're not super smart geniuses or anything like that. Their major credential is that is decades-long loyalty. In 1988, when Biden had to drop out because of plagiarism, Donilon was with him. So they go way back, before I was even alive.
34:53 Patrick Bet-David? Got it. So, so there are they, two of them are loyalists to Biden, one of them, Anita is a loyalist to Obama.
35:00 Speaker 02 But also loyal, but she comes from Obama world, but she's also a loyalist to Biden. She is known, she prides herself on holding Biden's grudges, is what she says, yeah. So Biden, you know, he's mellowed out in his years, but Anita, she's a fighter. She was the person who came up with Dark Brandon, remember that?
35:19 Patrick Bet-David? Mm-hmm.
35:20 Speaker 02 Yeah.
35:20 Patrick Bet-David? So grudges, who were some of the people that Anita protected the grudges from? Like, if you're saying he was about grudges, who were some of the grudges with?
35:26 Speaker 02 Uh...
35:27 Patrick Bet-David? It has to be with the party, with certain people within the party.
35:30 Speaker 02 Exactly, the people who dared to undermine Biden, like, for example, Joe Manchin, who wouldn't pass this legislation, Kamala Harris, they hated her.
35:40 Patrick Bet-David? Pre her running?
35:42 Speaker 02 Oh, absolutely.
35:43 Patrick Bet-David? While she was VP?
35:44 Speaker 02 There was, do you remember in the first couple of years of the term, her office is constantly undergoing turmoil?
35:50 Patrick Bet-David? Right.
35:51 Speaker 02 It was just, there was so much drama, people were leaving in droves, there was so much turnover, Anita Dunn and crew, they didn't think highly of Harris. She couldn't run her own office. And Ron Klain, who was the chief of staff at the time, he was replaced by Javits and Zients, he had to like come in, like exert control over the situation.
36:13 Patrick Bet-David? So so far, Manchin, Kamala, by the way, did Biden and Jill choose Kamala as the VP?
36:19 Speaker 02 Jill hates Kamala Harris.
36:22 Patrick Bet-David? Always.
36:23 Speaker 02 Hates her.
36:24 Patrick Bet-David? Recently or always?
36:25 Speaker 02 Viciously.
36:26 Patrick Bet-David? Why?
36:27 Speaker 02 Always, because of the debate on, if I remember correctly, it was June 28th, 2019.
36:30 Patrick Bet-David? I remember that.
36:31 Speaker 02 When the bus thing.
36:32 Patrick Bet-David? I remember that.
36:33 Speaker 02 Exactly.
36:34 Patrick Bet-David? Can you pull that up, Rob, if you're talking about the bus thing?
36:35 Speaker 02 And the bus thing, I, I was with Biden the next day in San Francisco at a fundraiser, and he was shook. No one expected that to happen. And Jill was one of the people who opposed Biden picking Kamala for VP. But he kind of tied himself in knots when he promised to pick a black woman. He left himself with a few options, you know?
37:02 Patrick Bet-David? So was Kamala chosen as the VP because Biden had to choose it based on what Trump said, based on what Obama said, or he wanted her because she was polling well and let me choose her as a VP instead of other guys?
37:16 Speaker 02 If by polling well, you mean 1% then...
37:19 Patrick Bet-David? Well, at one point she got up to 17. I think at one point she was at 14%.
37:22 Speaker 02 And then dropped 1% and never recovered. She didn't even make it to Iowa.
37:26 Patrick Bet-David? So then why would you choose her as a VP?
37:28 Speaker 02 Two words: James Clyburn, who saved his ass in South Carolina. So many things can be attributed to this guy. Because if it weren't for James Clyburn, we never would have had the Biden presidency.
37:40 Patrick Bet-David? Why is that?
37:41 Speaker 02 Because he came in fifth in New Hampshire and lost Iowa terribly.
37:45 Patrick Bet-David? I remember that.
37:46 Speaker 02 And the only reason why he won South Carolina in such dramatic fashion was because James Clyburn, who's widely loved in the state, endorsed him.
37:55 Patrick Bet-David? So if James Clyburn doesn't endorse him, he doesn't win South Carolina...
37:59 Speaker 02 He's done.
38:00 Patrick Bet-David? Who would have been a replacement?
38:02 Speaker 02 They were scared it would have been Sanders. Do you remember that?
38:05 Patrick Bet-David? For sure.
38:06 Speaker 02 All the moderates coalesced together.
38:08 Patrick Bet-David? Amy, Sanders, Pete, Warren.
38:09 Speaker 02 Exactly. Well, actually Warren was, I mean, she's progressive. But all the moderates got together and endorsed Biden that night. I think it was in a joint rally in Houston, somewhere in Texas. And so Clyburn saved him. And with that came tremendous power. He got him to promise that the VP would be a black woman, that this next SCOTUS pick would be a black woman.
38:33 Patrick Bet-David? So because, so he's that powerful?
38:37 Speaker 02 He's very powerful.
38:39 Patrick Bet-David? So...
38:40 Speaker 02 Oh, you know who got him to, sorry for, this is a very important part that I don't want to forget. Biden endorsed Harris 30 minutes after he dropped out. Do you remember?
38:50 Patrick Bet-David? I do.
38:51 Speaker 02 On July 21st. You know who told him to do that?
38:53 Patrick Bet-David? Who's that?
38:54 Speaker 02 Oh, James Clyburn.
38:55 Patrick Bet-David? But why does he owe the favor to him? Just because of him helping him out in South Carolina?
38:59 Speaker 02 Without James, there's no presidency. He would have been dead in the water. Do you remember? Everyone wrote him off for dead after New Hampshire. It was that bad. He was losing to Pete Buttigieg.
39:13 Patrick Bet-David? So is James Clyburn a person that's close to, is he part of Obama's camp? Or he stands alone on his own?
39:20 Speaker 02 He's very much part of Biden's camp.
39:23 Patrick Bet-David? So he's not an Obama guy?
39:24 Speaker 02 He is. I mean, they're all kind of, there's so much overlap, but he's very much a Biden loyalist.
39:30 Patrick Bet-David? The reason why, so, okay, so we got the three names. Rob, if you can go back to all the three names. Anita being one of them, okay? You had Anita as one, then we had Stephen Rochetti. Then you had Michael Donilon. When you say they could do anything, what were some of the things that they did that people feared? Because the question was, are they feared?
39:52 Speaker 02 My point is, they were essentially the president behind the scenes, and Biden was just the facade.
39:58 Patrick Bet-David? And that's why Mike would give the wrong polls, just to make Joe think that he can win, he has a shot to keep running.
40:03 Speaker 02 So that Mike could continue in power. All of these people knew that this is a final gravy train, that they would never be hired by another. Can you imagine like another Democratic candidate hiring these people? It just wouldn't happen. They are Biden creatures through and through. They realized that this was their last act.
40:20 Patrick Bet-David? So what do they do now, though? Like, what do they do now to make money? Are they lobbyists?
40:24 Speaker 02 I'm sure they're rich enough that they don't have to work again.
40:27 Patrick Bet-David? Due to what? Because the job doesn't pay that well.
40:31 Speaker 02 Due to what? I mean, these are the same people who came up with like Burisma and the fact that Biden pardoned his family on the last day, not just for the past year, but all the way back to 2014. These people, everyone that I just named, they're all part of Biden world, they're all part, the entire Biden world operation is influence peddling. I'm sure they're fine. Like, James Biden was wrapped up in this failed hospital network business. They have businesses in Ukraine, China, all over the place. They're gonna be fine.
41:06 Patrick Bet-David? Well, I mean, something funny is the FBI agent that I was talking to, DOJ, when they were dealing with the property that we bought, she was also suing Joe Biden's brother.
41:16 Speaker 02 Oh, for the hospital thing?
41:17 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, linked to it. Very weird. I'm like, wait, what? I'm like, looking her up. I'm like, is she suing? Who was this lady? Finally, we had many calls, and then eventually, when the property was finally on auction, we were able to find a way to pick up the property. But, okay, so Jill Hunter, did you spend any time with Hunter?
41:39 Speaker 02 He was always in the road in front of me and we exchanged like pleasantries, but we never had extensive conversations. It wasn't good optics for me to be seen with him. Like even as a Democrat, I didn't want to be attached with him because he's just such a
41:55 Speaker 02 scumbag with all due respect.
41:58 Speaker 02 Like I, I don't want to be like I, I was always really disgusted by the fact that he was walking around like royalty.
42:05 Patrick Bet-David? Was he?
42:05 Speaker 02 He was absolutely like he owned the place. I saw him and we did a fundraiser with George Clooney and Julia Roberts. He was in the front row pretending like he owned the place. I um was involved with a fundraiser with Bill Clinton, Obama and Biden on, I think either March or April of 2024 at Radio City Music Hall. And Hunter was again in the front row, um pretending like we didn't all see him with his thing hanging out in a bathtub. Like, like, do you have no shame? I, I would never want to show my face in public again if that happened to me.
42:41 Patrick Bet-David? You, you have to be very shameless to be able to do that and reappear as if nothing happened.
42:45 Speaker 02 Like nothing happened and he would be do, he would be doing selfies with people with guests. I don't even know why anyone would want a selfie with him, to be honest.
42:52 Patrick Bet-David? How was Obama around Hunter?
42:56 Patrick Bet-David? Did you see anything?
42:56 Speaker 02 I actually didn't. I don't remember seeing anything. Obama, um
43:01 Speaker 02 you know, one of the biggest casualties of the 2020 election, it's Obama.
43:05 Patrick Bet-David? I agree.
43:05 Speaker 02 Yeah. And not just in the eyes of Republicans, but in the eyes of Democratic donors, like the people who matter behind the scenes. People are so fed up with Obama and also the Obama consultants, Obama veterans, like Jen O'Malley Dillon, who is the chair of the Harris campaign. These people make so much money. You gotta remember that half a billion dollars, which were advertising fees, went to just four well-connected Democratic firms and all of them are run by Obama veterans.
43:34 Patrick Bet-David? Wait, half a billion dollars?
43:36 Speaker 02 Half a billion dollars.
43:37 Patrick Bet-David? Advertising fees?
43:38 Speaker 02 Like TV ads, like every time you, you know, like when you um run political ads, the whoever puts it up for you gets a percentage. And so, um firms like for instance, um Bully Pulpit International, which is one, you've heard of them or no?
43:54 Patrick Bet-David? Bully Pulpit?
43:54 Speaker 02 Bully Pulpit International.
43:56 Patrick Bet-David? Yep. I haven't heard of them, but go for it.
43:58 Speaker 02 They're a huge Democratic firm. They're a part of Obama world. They made so much money.
44:04 Patrick Bet-David? What's the business model on how they make money?
44:07 Speaker 02 They just create ads for you and then they just make a shit ton of money. They make a killing. And that's where all our, that's where the donor money went.
44:16 Patrick Bet-David? So ads as in, these are, these are ad agencies?
44:19 Speaker 02 The shitty ads that didn't even work.
44:20 Patrick Bet-David? 10 to 15% of whatever the ad spend they're doing.
44:23 Speaker 02 Exactly. It's so much money and you know how expensive those TV ads are? Hey guys, I'm so excited to be on my neck. I will answer any questions no matter what it is, whether it be politics, sex, your love life, family issues, whatever it is, I'm here for you. I want to be your friend. I want to talk with you and understand you. So please reach out. I can't wait to hear from you. Thanks so much, guys.
44:46 Patrick Bet-David? So Obama loses credibility. Would you put him at the top as a person that lost the most credibility in 2024 election?
44:53 Speaker 02 Underneath, underneath Harris and Obama, Biden and Harris. Yeah, absolutely. And you could tell that he was fighting for his third term. Like he was fighting for his life out there. Remember the time he was lambasting black men for not voting for, exactly.
45:07 Patrick Bet-David? Yes.
45:07 Speaker 02 Like that was a bit too much.
45:09 Patrick Bet-David? Lecturing them.
45:10 Speaker 02 Exactly. It was very condescending.
45:12 Patrick Bet-David? Very.
45:12 Speaker 02 Like they can't think for themselves.
45:13 Patrick Bet-David? Very.
45:14 Speaker 02 Yeah.
45:14 Patrick Bet-David? Behind closed doors, what did they think of him? Were people, others saying, I think he has lost the sizzle. I think he's lost his touch.
45:21 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah. We, after that moment, people were like, hold up, hold up. That is not the strategy.
45:25 Patrick Bet-David? But who is saying that? Which powerful people are saying that?
45:28 Speaker 02 The donors, like the people who were funding the whole thing.
45:30 Patrick Bet-David? They're saying, wow, so it had that big of an impact?
45:33 Speaker 02 And you can, you can hear, he never said it again.
45:37 Patrick Bet-David? Who were some of the biggest donors? Like in, in this model where you desperately need the money of the donors, who owns who?
45:46 Speaker 02 The people, the person at the top of the food chain, of the Biden Harris donor food chain is a guy named Jeff Katzenberg. And he, if people remember, he's the guy behind DreamWorks Entertainment.
45:56 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, he's a player.
45:58 Speaker 02 And people-
45:59 Patrick Bet-David? I think he started Quibi and he raised a bunch of money with Quibi, $2.3 billion. And it failed within five months, six months.
46:06 Speaker 02 It was an embarrassment. Didn't he do, do it with some governor?
46:09 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, Meg Whitman. It was Meg Whitman and a few other people, yeah.
46:12 Speaker 02 Right. And so the theory of the case is that he was so humiliated by that, that he wanted to- Refurbish, rehabilitate his image by proving that he could play with the big boys, you know, that basically that he could, you know, be the kingmaker. And that's why he went so hard for Biden and Harris.
46:30 Patrick Bet-David? And is he, what you're saying, as a donor, are you saying he said, I don't think Obama has it anymore?
46:38 Speaker 02 Oh, no, he wasn't, I'm just saying, he is the most important donor.
46:41 Patrick Bet-David? He's the most important donor.
46:42 Speaker 02 Absolutely, and he was the one who got the Hollywood, he was the person behind the Clooney and Julia Roberts event that I just mentioned. I don't think he mentioned the Biden stuff, but I mean, like, donors that you wouldn't even recognize, like, it's not even worth mentioning, but who had tremendous, who wield tremendous influence behind the scenes, saying Obama shouldn't be attacking black men. Or, for instance, actually, one reason why Biden was so pro-Israel is because all of his donors were pro-Israel. I remember one time, it was the night, the morning after the Radio City Music Hall event that I just told you about, a woman got up and gave this teary-eyed speech about Biden
47:24 Speaker 02 standing up for Israel and how thankful she was, and the entire room stood up and applauded her. And for all the progressives wondering why Biden supported Israel, it's why, this is why. It's because that's what the donors wanted.
47:42 Patrick Bet-David? Kamala, Kamala lost that one because she, she had a shot. By the way, were you, where were you when Kamala was choosing who to be the running mate as the VP? What, what conversations were being had? And who else was super close of being, because Josh Shapiro, being Jewish, was he one of the ones that was possibly being considered?
48:06 Speaker 02 I was one of the biggest supporters of Josh Shapiro. Even though I'm no longer part of the party, I still harbor tremendous amount of respect and love for that man. And I'm probably going to catch flak for it, but friendship is friendship, and so it is what it is. I think he's one of the most talented people in the Democratic Party. And I was on air, on TV, consistently throughout that time, throughout that week, saying that Josh Shapiro was our best bet. But Harris was intimidated by him because he was so, so good in relation to her. He was just a much better speaker. I mean, it's not even.
48:39 Patrick Bet-David? Oh, they're not in the same league.
48:41 Speaker 02 Exactly.
48:41 Patrick Bet-David? Josh speaks like a president.
48:43 Speaker 02 Absolutely.
48:44 Patrick Bet-David? So, let me ask you, do you remember when the stories came out? Rob, what stories came out about him supporting a friend that killed somebody and, you know?
48:51 Speaker 02 Oh, the suicide thing?
48:52 Patrick Bet-David? The suicide thing.
48:53 Speaker 02 Unfortunately, in the past week.
48:55 Patrick Bet-David? Shooting twenty times in the back, or stabbing twenty times in the back?
48:57 Speaker 02 Pat, in the past week, more news came out about that.
49:00 Patrick Bet-David? Got it. And, and, and the only reason I'm bringing this up, because the timing of this being released was right.
49:07 Speaker 02 It was to destroy him.
49:08 Patrick Bet-David? But you think Kamala would be involved and wanted to destroy her?
49:12 Speaker 02 No, no, no. It was the progressives, the people who hated Israel.
49:15 Patrick Bet-David? Such as?
49:17 Speaker 02 The vicious online people who probably live in a garage. It was really that. It was online mob. But no one in power wanted, other than that, um, it really came down to Andy Beshear, Mark Kelly, Josh Shapiro, and, um, Tim Walz, which is such a dumb mistake. Like, Tim contributed.
49:38 Patrick Bet-David? Who picked him? Did Kamala pick him? I don't think Kamala has that much power to pick him. Who picked him?
49:43 Speaker 02 She picked him.
49:44 Patrick Bet-David? She picked him as a VP?
49:46 Speaker 02 And someone who had tremendous impact on the decision-making process was a guy named Tony West, who's a chief legal officer of Uber. And you know who Tony West is, other than that?
49:56 Patrick Bet-David? Uh-uh.
49:57 Speaker 02 Her brother-in-law. Remember how in 2019, she had all her family members involved and everything went to shit?
50:04 Patrick Bet-David? Mm-hmm.
50:04 Speaker 02 She learned nothing from him and did the same thing. Her family was, again, heavily involved in the 2024 campaign, and Tony West is deeply involved in the vetting process for VP.
50:14 Patrick Bet-David? There was something with Tony West we talked about, Rob, on a podcast about a year ago. What's the, what, what was the link with Tony West behind closed doors? His wife or his connection, or what was the?
50:24 Speaker 02 His wife is the sister of Kamala Harris.
50:26 Patrick Bet-David? That, but there was something there that with, I, I, I remember clearly us talking about Tony West about something. About something. I don't know what it was, but he came up about.
50:38 Speaker 02 In a good or bad way?
50:39 Patrick Bet-David? Not in a good way. I don't know what it was when the story came up. Um, what was I about to go ahead and say?
50:44 Speaker 02 Um, he had some, it might have been in connection with Eric Holder, the Attorney General. They had some shady dealings.
50:53 Patrick Bet-David? It could have been, it could have been, but, but he, he came up on a podcast that we talked about about a year, year and a half ago. Um, is, is that it Rob? Uh, confirmation. Anyways, I don't know what it is. So, okay, so Tony West was influential in her picking Tim Walz.
51:08 Speaker 02 Right. He was, they thought that he would be the guy to do the least damage. But then he turned out to be a pathological liar, lying about how he was in Tana Men when he was really in Nebraska. I mean, who makes that kind of lie? It's like, so it's not even like a-
51:21 Patrick Bet-David? Oh, he was maybe the worst VP pick I've ever seen. I don't know what happened when this guy was picked. He pulled his son's arm the way he did at the one thing and I don't know if you've remembered that one or not. It was a-
51:32 Speaker 02 But his son was like sobbing at the DNC too.
51:34 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, but then he pulled him like, get your act together and was like, whoa.
51:37 Speaker 02 Oh wow.
51:38 Patrick Bet-David? You've never seen that? It was a, uh, it was a very, it, right there. Uh, uh, yeah, there's a Tim Walz, uh, arm pole son.
51:46 Speaker 02 Oh my gosh.
51:47 Patrick Bet-David? You didn't see this one? Just very weird when you see this. Is that it?
51:50 Speaker 02 And his son-
51:50 Patrick Bet-David? Watch this.
51:51 Speaker 02 Oh wow. His son is special needs. That makes it worse. You know his son is special needs?
51:56 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, I know. That's, that's the moment where I'm like, dude, what would, what was that?
51:59 Speaker 02 Oh my god.
52:00 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, that was a, that was, that was-
52:04 Speaker 02 So he must be a monster behind him.
52:05 Patrick Bet-David? I don't know what he is. I don't know what he is, but I do know when him and AOC were playing video games, neither one of them was actually playing video games. And I don't know what that Madden thing, they were trying to pull off thinking that's a good idea.
52:16 Speaker 02 Exactly.
52:16 Patrick Bet-David? But, okay, so that's that part. Now the money part. Like, hey, you know, I, I remember Ben Stiller, I never got paid. Sean Penn. Where are we going? Never got paid, never got paid. Oprah, no, no, no one paid me directly. I mean, you see these numbers that we read about. Oprah Winfrey got paid a million dollars through Harpo Productions for event production, not personal fee. Beyonce, one sixty-five.
52:38 Speaker 02 I'm just asking you to spell Harpo backwards.
52:40 Patrick Bet-David? I know, it's Oprah.
52:41 Speaker 02 Yeah, exactly. It's Heart Company.
52:42 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, it's her magazine called-
52:43 Speaker 02 So how could you possibly say you weren't paid?
52:45 Patrick Bet-David? That's the point. And then you have, you know, uh, uh, other influencers that not disclose four million dollars, good influence, half a million dollars. People First Marketing, half a million dollars and, and-
52:56 Speaker 02 You know whose name is not on there?
52:57 Patrick Bet-David? Who is that?
52:58 Speaker 02 Yours truly.
53:00 Patrick Bet-David? Or that you didn't get paid.
53:01 Speaker 02 Exactly. I wasn't paid for anything.
53:04 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, but these are, these are, uh, uh, these are celebrities that are collecting checks, you know, was the rumor right that Beyonce got a fat check? Cause this says only 165. Do you know how much Beyonce actually got paid or no?
53:18 Speaker 02 I don't think it was the millions that was circulating, but she was definitely paid for, she was paid for her quote unquote, production costs. But remember what she actually did? She gave a speech. So what were the production costs?
53:27 Patrick Bet-David? Two minutes and got off. Yeah. So, so Megan Stallion, Lizzo, all these other guys were mentioned.
53:33 Speaker 02 That Megan Thee Stallion, did you watch her performance? She was like scantily clad and what is that? You know, what message are you trying to convey?
53:40 Patrick Bet-David? Embarrassing. So somebody thought these ideas were good ideas.
53:43 Speaker 02 Jen O'Malley Dillon.
53:45 Patrick Bet-David? Who?
53:45 Speaker 02 Jen O'Malley Dillon, who is Obama world fixture. Um, she was the one who led Beto O'Rourke's. Yes.
53:53 Patrick Bet-David? She's the one that led Beto O'Rourke's.
53:54 Speaker 02 By the way, I was in the Oval Office in February, uh, March 1st, 2024. By that time, she still hadn't moved to campaign headquarters. They were dragging their feet. Uh, Trump by that time was like deep in it. They were like rolling, you know, cylinders were all rolling. In March 2024, she was still in the White House. So their campaign was like in two different locations.
54:18 Patrick Bet-David? Why though? Thinking it's a slam dunk. We're gonna win no matter what. There's nothing they can do.
54:22 Speaker 02 I think part of it was trying to conserve Biden's energy because they knew it was limited.
54:28 Patrick Bet-David? Well, that part makes sense. I mean, even in 2020, you barely saw what he was doing.
54:32 Speaker 02 He was fortunate in that regard. In 2020, he could hide in there. No one would ask questions.
54:36 Patrick Bet-David? Very weird. Very weird.
54:37 Speaker 02 Yeah.
54:38 Patrick Bet-David? And, and you know, when, when you would see audiences show up, you know, there, there were in many cases more staffers there than actually people wanting to see what he had to say.
54:47 Speaker 02 Pat, that is such an insissive comment because I was there on May, I believe it was May 19th, 2019, when he kicked off his campaign. It was in Philadelphia. I live there. And I remember, actually, that day was so hot, I had a heat stroke, and that's beside the point. I remember turning to my friend, I was like, why are there more members of the press here than supporters? This is embarrassing. This is Philadelphia, it's not a conservative heartland. It's the most democratic, the most blue, the bluest possible city. And you can't get like, more than 100 people to show up? We were in front of the Rocky Steps, you know, the very... It was unbelievable to me. And I just, I figured maybe it was hot that day, but it was in May, it was not that hot, you know?
55:30 Speaker 02 And, um, throughout the campaign, let me say, um, there was a Blacks for a Biden event. By that time Biden was still in the race. So few people showed up, that they had to move the artificial wall closer to Biden to make like, to make it seem like more people were there. Do you understand? It was in a high school gym. And with Trump, people would be like hanging off the rafters, there would be so many people there. With Biden, they had to literally change the configuration of the room. Because there were so few people there. And they had to ask students, it was a Black Americans for a Biden event, they had to ask students to come in from their classrooms to fill the stands.
56:15 Speaker 02 I still have pictures on that on my LinkedIn.
56:17 Patrick Bet-David? That is, that is embarrassing.
56:19 Speaker 02 That is so embarrassing.
56:21 Patrick Bet-David? By the way, the Taylor Swift, everybody thought Taylor Swift...
56:23 Speaker 02 That's the event! Rob, you are so good, wow. That's exactly, do you see what I mean? That's the event, you can probably see me in the front row too, I'm wearing an orange dress. But, um, it looks like there were people there, but you can tell that they moved the...
56:39 Patrick Bet-David? Wow.
56:40 Speaker 02 Yeah.
56:40 Patrick Bet-David? How many people were in the room?
56:42 Speaker 02 How many supporters or how many members of the press? Because I think there were more members of the press.
56:46 Patrick Bet-David? That's the one you're talking about?
56:47 Speaker 02 Yeah, exactly. It looks like there were people there, but after the camera stops, there's nothing behind, you know?
56:53 Patrick Bet-David? They left?
56:54 Speaker 02 There's nobody there. It's not that they would left, there's nobody there.
56:57 Patrick Bet-David? That is so weird.
56:59 Speaker 02 And you can tell that everyone up there is young because they filled, I mean, in the rafters, they fill that part with literal students who they snatched from classrooms that day.
57:10 Patrick Bet-David? How do you think they won? 2020 election. You hear a lot of different things. I mean, you're in it. When they're talking, like, I'm in Brazil last week, and there's this famous video of one of the judges walking past Alexandre de Moraes and says, "Hey, job promised, job done," something like that. And he taps him on the shoulder, okay? And Alexandre goes like this, like, "Good job. This is it." If you can fast forward to like 10 seconds, right there, you see right there, he's speaking, guy walks up, one of the judges, boom.
57:48 Patrick Bet-David? Mission assigned, mission accomplished, okay? What happened with 2020 from you being on the inside that they brought? Because Lula was like, Lula, Obama called Lula the greatest politician in the world, and this judge goes and gets Lula out of prison to come and run against Bolsonaro because they had nobody that they thought could beat Bolsonaro. What really happened in 2020 when Biden won?
58:10 Speaker 02 I will say that I'm not a, I'm not an election conspiracist, but I do think that election was rigged in some ways. For example, we should have learned more about Hunter Biden's laptop. The fact that the mainstream media completely buried it was tremendous disservice to the American people. Not only that, you had revered members of the intelligence community like Antony Blinken and Jake Sullivan, who became National Security Advisor. They came out and said it was Russian disinformation. Now we know, that guess what? It wasn't Russian disinformation. It was actual laptop, it was his laptop. And those photos were real, those texts were real, everything was real. And the fact that they hid it from the American people was a travesty. And I think it would have had an enormous impact on how people
58:55 Speaker 02 voted. Because who was the big guy? Joe Biden. Right? That information was withheld from voters.
59:06 Speaker 02 And also, he benefited from the basement campaign. And they were hoping to run a Rose Garden campaign in 2024, which would have been similar, like very passive, and leaving the travel to surrogates.
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59:52 Patrick Bet-David? But nothing else? Like, was there anything? Were you ever in rooms where a conversation was said?
59:57 Speaker 02 I have to be honest, no one was like trying to cheat.
1:00:01 Patrick Bet-David? There wasn't anything where you you heard about the balance drop this that?
1:00:06 Speaker 02 I mean, it's the usual Philadelphia corruption. It's it happens every time, though. Like, the street money. Have you heard about that notion? Okay. Oh, my God. So, Pat, before I say this, someone very high up on in the Democratic Party threatened to sue me after my Sean Ryan show. I could ruin his career just by naming him, but I'm gonna do him a good deed today and not name him. But he knows, if he listens, he knows exactly who it is.
1:00:34 Patrick Bet-David? Is he somebody we know?
1:00:37 Speaker 02 You would know his, you would know, you know that this role exists, and it's very prominent, and I can tell you off-air who it is. I will tell you afterwards. He sends me a text. I actually gave it to Benny Johnson. He sends me a text saying, um, who's your lawyer? I wanna, I wanna do you the, give you the respect of sending it to the right person. And so I call him, I know him, I was like, what are you suing me for?
1:01:02 Speaker 02 And I was like, I was like, you know defamation has to be, you know, I have to be saying something false. I was like, so tell me, what am I saying that's false? And so we dissected everything I said. I was like,
1:01:13 Speaker 02 and he agreed with me that everything I said was true, but he just didn't want it packaged it together for the American people in a digestible fashion. So I'm mentioning this now because he's probably gonna send me another threat. Because here I am talking about the street money. He doesn't like me talking about the street money, which is very corrupt. Philadelphia has a habit of giving ward leaders money.
1:01:37 Speaker 02 They just hand out money
1:01:40 Speaker 02 on election day.
1:01:41 Patrick Bet-David? To who? To voters?
1:01:42 Speaker 02 To ward leaders.
1:01:45 Patrick Bet-David? To ward leaders?
1:01:46 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:01:50 Patrick Bet-David? And in doing so, what do you get in return?
1:01:54 Speaker 02 It's supposed to turn out the vote.
1:01:57 Speaker 02 I'm trying, um, uh, this is, it's, it's like, it's the underbelly of Philadelphia politics. I'm not sure if Chicago does this too, but it's, it's a long storied tradition in Philadelphia.
1:02:10 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. So the practice involves leaders, uh,
1:02:14 Speaker 02 Oh, is there a Wikipedia page for this?
1:02:15 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, there's a political, small amounts of money to individuals, often in lower income individuals to incentivize them to vote. The use of street money has been longstanding tradition in Philadelphia's political landscape. However, its prevalence declined in over the years, so
1:02:28 Speaker 02 It's still going on.
1:02:29 Patrick Bet-David? You're saying it's still going on?
1:02:30 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
1:02:31 Patrick Bet-David? How do you know that?
1:02:32 Speaker 02 Because we just talked about it days ago when he tried to sue me.
1:02:37 Speaker 02 He didn't want me mentioning it on a national podcast.
1:02:40 Patrick Bet-David? I'd never heard of it before. So the money given out to ward leaders
1:02:44 Speaker 02 This is something that they don't want people to know.
1:02:46 Patrick Bet-David? ranging from ten, twenty, fifty, as high as four hundred dollars just for them to go vote? Ward bosses and cities, poor neighborhoods often use the money to offset the cost of gasoline and food for the volunteers.
1:02:58 Speaker 02 But Pat, do you understand how easy it is to embezzle this money? Like, there's no accountability, no, you can just give it to party leaders and they can essentially do whatever they want. And Philadelphia is the birthplace of people like Johnny Doc. Have you heard of him?
1:03:14 Patrick Bet-David? Hmm.
1:03:14 Speaker 02 The labor leader who was imprisoned for corruption, embezzling funds. It's just, it's a very Philadelphia tradition.
1:03:25 Speaker 02 Members of our city council are often in prison. Johnny Doc, there you go.
1:03:31 Patrick Bet-David? You pull up his picture, Rob, I think I know the story.
1:03:35 Speaker 02 This guy was extremely close with Hillary Clinton.
1:03:40 Patrick Bet-David? This guy was?
1:03:41 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:03:43 Speaker 02 And part of the reason why, if you ever wonder why the DNC was held in Philadelphia in 2016, the two-word answer is Johnny Doc.
1:03:52 Patrick Bet-David? He gets six years in prison for what bribery and theft? Former Philly labor leader, can he, can he go to his Wikipedia, Rob, just to see what the story is about this guy?
1:04:04 Patrick Bet-David? Turns out 2019 was indicted, 98 investigation that charged him with missing union funds for personal benefits and corrupting the public. He pleaded not guilty, city council. November 20th, a federal judge overseeing the case ruled that the indictment would be split into separate trials. Can you click, uh, Ctrl F Clinton? Ctrl F Clinton? See if there's anything that comes in the profile, nothing?
1:04:31 Speaker 02 But it's, it's definitely true.
1:04:33 Patrick Bet-David? Is it known?
1:04:34 Speaker 02 Within, um, I mean, Democrat circles.
1:04:36 Patrick Bet-David? And what do you think he did for Clinton? Like, what's the relationship there?
1:04:39 Speaker 02 He headed the most powerful union in the mid-Atlantic region called Local 98.
1:04:49 Speaker 02 They're extremely close.
1:04:52 Speaker 02 And I assume that he was expecting her to protect him from prosecution.
1:04:57 Patrick Bet-David? Have you had any interaction with Hillary Clinton?
1:05:00 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:05:01 Patrick Bet-David? Face, like you've met her face to face?
1:05:02 Speaker 02 Yes, and I know her, I know Marjorie Margolis, who is the mother of, um, the man that Chelsea Clinton married. So, I'm actually very close with Marjorie, well, I used to be.
1:05:18 Speaker 02 Her husband was arrested, I mean, these people. It's like one after another.
1:05:22 Patrick Bet-David? Marjorie's husband was arrested.
1:05:24 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:05:24 Patrick Bet-David? What did he do?
1:05:26 Speaker 02 Um, she is a former congresswoman. And he engaged in corrupt acts. I'm, his name is, did you find him? I can't see that far.
1:05:37 Patrick Bet-David? Marjorie Margolis.
1:05:39 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:05:39 Patrick Bet-David? Meswinski.
1:05:40 Speaker 02 Yes, that's the guy who was arrested.
1:05:43 Patrick Bet-David? What's the husband's name, Rob? Can you go to, there's his husband, spouse. Mark. Edward?
1:05:49 Speaker 02 That's his son. That's his son.
1:05:51 Patrick Bet-David? It's Edward. See where it says Edward? Oh, sorry. There you go. Okay. So, there was a felon, a Democrat who represented Iowa's first congressional district, graduated. But why was he a felon? In 2010, he became a father-in-law to Chelsea Clinton, the daughter of Hillary and Bill Clinton.
1:06:10 Patrick Bet-David? Jewish immigrant, Russian empire. Go a little bit lower to see what the felony charges were about. Criminal in Arizona was indicted and later pleaded guilty. Thirty-one out of sixty-nine felony charges of bank fraud, mail fraud, and wire fraud. Meswinski had been working with attorney at the time, funneling, embezzling, fraudulent, obtained money to West African con men after a falling victim to an online advance fee scam in the wanting days of the Clinton presidency before the indictment. Most handed, Meswinski's wife wrote personally to Clinton requesting a pardon for her husband. Clinton declined. Nearly ten million was involved in the crimes. Shortly after indictment, he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, but the judge has disallowed a mental illness defense. So it's kind of like that movie with, what's his name? Edward Norton, Primal Fear.
1:06:54 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
1:06:55 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, yeah, you have two personalities.
1:06:57 Speaker 02 Conveniently.
1:06:58 Patrick Bet-David? What was Hillary like? I hear she's a sweetheart.
1:07:01 Speaker 02 Really?
1:07:01 Patrick Bet-David? Obviously, I'm being.
1:07:03 Speaker 02 That's, oh, my God.
1:07:04 Patrick Bet-David? I just wanted to see your reaction.
1:07:05 Speaker 02 That's one person that's not a sweetheart. That's not a sweetheart.
1:07:08 Patrick Bet-David? What was she like?
1:07:09 Speaker 02 She's very cynical and jaded.
1:07:13 Patrick Bet-David? Cynical or jaded? So that means at one point she wasn't cynical and jaded?
1:07:17 Speaker 02 I probably wasn't alive then.
1:07:19 Patrick Bet-David? So tell me what you mean by cynical and jaded.
1:07:21 Speaker 02 Very practiced, very curiographed, not genuine. Like Biden, say what you want about him, but he's genuine. He is. I mean, at least with me, like on a human level. He's not faking it. I mean, he faked his presidency, but he's not faking his human emotions. Kamala's a different story, but Hillary is just like, almost an android.
1:07:47 Patrick Bet-David? What do you mean by that?
1:07:48 Speaker 02 She's not like, like, can you imagine talking with her about like, human pain and like, stuff that you're going through?
1:07:57 Speaker 02 Absolutely, like, she wouldn't, it wouldn't-
1:07:59 Patrick Bet-David? Register.
1:08:00 Speaker 02 Exactly, you would not, never be able to reach her heart.
1:08:04 Patrick Bet-David? Why do you think that is?
1:08:07 Speaker 02 I think a part of it is just being attacked so often over the decades, and also her thirst for power.
1:08:13 Speaker 02 Her, her pursuit of power was her raison d'etre. Like, it was, it's the thing that animated her soul. She needed it.
1:08:23 Speaker 02 And she just, you could tell, like, her 2016 campaign was so stilted and so emotionalist. That's why Bernie Sanders caught fire. Because at least he was real. Like, I hate the communist socialist shit, but at least he was real.
1:08:36 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah.
1:08:37 Speaker 02 Like, Trump was so real.
1:08:40 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, I mean, if you think about it, Trump and Bernie, similar, straight up, they had very loyal fans. Different ideologies.
1:08:47 Speaker 02 You could tell that they were real.
1:08:48 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, I agree. I agree. And, and how, how much time did you spend with Hillary?
1:08:53 Speaker 02 Less than I did with Biden. I was like a teen, I was like twenty, when she was running, I was twenty five. When I, when she was running, she was, I was twenty five years old.
1:09:00 Patrick Bet-David? Got it.
1:09:01 Speaker 02 So, um, was just leaving Morgan Stanley. I was, um, the youngest woman to run for Congress. So when she was running, I was running for Congress.
1:09:13 Speaker 02 Yeah. I actually, I understand that people have to harden as a result of
1:09:21 Speaker 02 pain. So I, I can't blame her entirely for that, you know? Because even in the past, in the past couple of weeks, I, as I mentioned, I'm a changed person. I'm no longer the person that walked into Sean Ryan's studio.
1:09:35 Speaker 02 The hate campaign and like allegations, completely false allegations against me, have skewered my soul. I, I've been on my bedroom floor, just
1:09:48 Speaker 02 crying, just crying. And I, this is not me,
1:09:54 Speaker 02 this is not me, I, I want to be clear, this is not me playing the victim, this is just vocalizing what happened to me and explaining, explaining my journey. I don't need anyone's sympathy, I'm a strong chick, I got this. But I'm telling you that pain changes you. It's like walking through a refiner's fire.
1:10:16 Patrick Bet-David? I don't disagree. I don't disagree. So you're saying that's why Hillary is the way she is?
1:10:22 Speaker 02 But you know, the things that people accuse her of, I think a lot of it is true. But the things that people accuse me of, it's just not true. So I, um, like she's corrupt.
1:10:35 Speaker 02 But I know that I'm not.
1:10:36 Patrick Bet-David? You've now been accused of having a lot of your peers and coworkers close to you commit suicide. That's not happened with you yet, right? That's the, that's the stuff that we hear from her. No?
1:10:50 Speaker 02 I mean, one person is weird, but when it's more than one person, you exactly hear his likes.
1:10:55 Patrick Bet-David? When you were a donor on the inside and other powerful guys would bring up the name Hillary, would anybody be like, yeah, she's a, would you hear, were there any moments like that? Or was it known?
1:11:04 Speaker 02 People thought she was, she, she's a used up. She's done.
1:11:08 Patrick Bet-David? She's done.
1:11:09 Speaker 02 She's washed up.
1:11:09 Patrick Bet-David? At what point were people saying she's used up?
1:11:12 Speaker 02 Um.
1:11:13 Patrick Bet-David? Like wild, wild back or?
1:11:15 Speaker 02 At November 7th, 2016, she was done. Like there's no future for her.
1:11:19 Patrick Bet-David? So nine years ago, we're not talking.
1:11:20 Speaker 02 And they're saying the same thing about Kamala Harris. So I think that it's actually quite amusing that Kamala Harris is walking around like she still has a chance. She's done.
1:11:28 Patrick Bet-David? Let me, let me ask this question. Do you remember where you were, uh, when, um, where you were when, um, Trump got assassinated? And what was being said behind closed doors when that happened? Not he got assassinated, the assassination attempt. What was being said? Was there any?
1:11:47 Speaker 02 Election's done. He's, he's, he won.
1:11:49 Patrick Bet-David? Who said that?
1:11:49 Speaker 02 Democratic donors. Because you got to remember that Biden had COVID around this time. So the split screen was terrible. You had Trump triumphantly just demonstrating tremendous self-possession and courage on the stage. And then you had Biden struggling to go up the short steps to Air Force One. It could not have been starker. So my phone is blowing up that day. Um, I remember vividly July 13th, Butler, Pennsylvania, and you know, a few hours from where I live actually. And donors were just saying, it's done. We might as well just like pack up and go home now. How do you beat a guy like that?
1:12:27 Patrick Bet-David? Was there anybody that, any weird moments of anybody saying, "Shoot." I mean, close. Like, was there anybody that was disappointed that wasn't successful?
1:12:39 Speaker 02 Oh, no. No. Other than losers on X. But you have to remember that the donors I'm dealing, they're like multimillionaires and billionaires. They're not drugs of society. They're not like trash on the streets who delayed off the stuff. You know, they're not like, no one wants Trump dead. They wanted to beat him. I'm talking about the donor level, but there are a lot of Democratic influencers who are like, straight up evil. They were like, "Oh, you know, we're so upset that the bullet didn't go five inches in another direction."
1:13:11 Patrick Bet-David? Was there any aides, any aides, any people that were working on the administration?
1:13:15 Speaker 02 That's too, that's a step too far.
1:13:17 Patrick Bet-David? You think that's a step too far for them?
1:13:19 Speaker 02 That's a step too far, yeah.
1:13:20 Patrick Bet-David? Okay, well.
1:13:21 Speaker 02 I have to give credit where credit is due.
1:13:23 Patrick Bet-David? All right.
1:13:23 Speaker 02 Yeah. That's a little bit too evil for me.
1:13:26 Patrick Bet-David? You know, the story that came out right now, that there was a second accomplice. Rob, I don't know if you saw that or not, that there's another person involved.
1:13:33 Speaker 02 Pat, I do want to say, though, although they didn't vocalize it, I can't promise that it didn't cross their mind. Because how, honestly, how do you beat a guy like that? You just can't. He became an absolute icon that day. You even had Mark Zuckerberg saying that that was a badass thing to do. Mark Zuckerberg, who's known, who wasn't known to be a, you know, Republican.
1:13:55 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What's this one, Rob? "There would be Trump assassin, Thomas Crooks, may have had accomplice, data shows as investigator says FBI suppressing info." Can you go a little bit lower? It's been nine months since the seemingly mild-mannered 20-year-old attempted to assassinate then Republican presidential nominee, Trump at a rally in Butler, and we still have no good reason why. Sources tell the FBI obstructed effort to solve the mystery why Thomas Matthew Crooks, who left no manifesto, did what he did, it left local law enforcement as well. Some, those who may know, Crooks' parents have refused all interviews and remain in their small three-bedroom. Okay, go a little lower. So who's accusing of this, Rob?
1:14:39 Patrick Bet-David? If you had to cash Patel is going to get to the bottom of this conservative political election, Elon Musk yelled that to the audience, a veteran private investigator Ernie, who hired shortly after the fateful July 13 event at Butler, tried to look into the crime department, Doug Governor, who's esteemed six investigators have been working at the case for months and have interviewed 100 people, said they also conducted extensive shield fencing. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, I hope we get to the bottom of it because no one's really talking about it. I'm just wondering if there was anybody that was.
1:15:08 Speaker 02 I just can't believe it even happened.
1:15:10 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah.
1:15:11 Speaker 02 Because it just seems like such an obvious hole in the security perimeter.
1:15:15 Patrick Bet-David? But by the way, guys like Harry Sisson, that kind of blew up.
1:15:19 Speaker 02 I know him very well.
1:15:20 Patrick Bet-David? So, you know, obviously, he's very useful to the Democrats.
1:15:24 Speaker 02 He's very well compensated, I want you to know. He's been paid the DNC by super PACs, by...
1:15:31 Patrick Bet-David? Oh, really?
1:15:32 Speaker 02 Absolutely.
1:15:33 Patrick Bet-David? When you say well compensated, what type of numbers are you talking about?
1:15:35 Speaker 02 Hundreds of thousands?
1:15:36 Patrick Bet-David? Per year?
1:15:37 Speaker 02 Um, I would imagine so. He's being paid by TikTok, by the DNC, by various Democratic firms like Good Influence.
1:15:47 Patrick Bet-David? Good Influence pays Harry Sisson?
1:15:50 Speaker 02 I'm almost positive, yeah. Good Influence pays a lot of influencers.
1:15:56 Patrick Bet-David? Who else outside of him?
1:16:01 Speaker 02 All of them are paid. Literally all of them. Like, can you, like, Brooklyn Dad, have you heard of him?
1:16:10 Patrick Bet-David? No.
1:16:11 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
1:16:12 Patrick Bet-David? Who's he?
1:16:13 Speaker 03 Doesn't even live in Brooklyn. He actually relocated to Florida, but he's one of those...
1:16:17 Speaker 02 Oh, really?
1:16:18 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:16:19 Speaker 02 Oh, my God, what a sham.
1:16:20 Speaker 03 This guy.
1:16:21 Patrick Bet-David? I don't know who he is, though. Who is he?
1:16:25 Speaker 03 A popular influencer from the left. He's very, very anti-Trump, very vocal.
1:16:30 Patrick Bet-David? Okay.
1:16:31 Speaker 02 And JoJo from jurors.
1:16:32 Patrick Bet-David? Joe who?
1:16:33 Speaker 02 Bob, I like you already. I love the noises you're making.
1:16:40 Speaker 02 You know what catfishing is?
1:16:41 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, I know her. So you're saying they're all getting paid?
1:16:45 Speaker 02 You know what cat, yeah. You know what catfishing is?
1:16:48 Patrick Bet-David? No.
1:16:48 Speaker 02 When you have an avatar that looks nothing like who you actually are. She, I've seen this woman. She looks nothing like.
1:16:55 Patrick Bet-David? Seriously?
1:16:56 Speaker 02 Nothing, not even close. That is the most airbrushed photo I've ever seen in my life.
1:17:00 Patrick Bet-David? Her eyes look like it's, in Russian you would say kukla, like a doll.
1:17:03 Speaker 02 This is an AI-generated something.
1:17:05 Patrick Bet-David? What does she look like in real life? Can we see what she looks like in real life, like?
1:17:08 Speaker 02 There are some actual photos of her and she looks, it's like, it's almost deceitful. It's deceitful.
1:17:18 Patrick Bet-David? She looks good. I don't know about.
1:17:20 Speaker 02 Well, that's a photo that she posted. You can't trust any photos that she posts. It has, you know?
1:17:25 Patrick Bet-David? So, okay, so these guys are getting paid. I guess then my question would be, let's go a little bit deeper than that. Are they getting paid to say things they don't believe in?
1:17:33 Speaker 02 Yes, because I know for a fact that.
1:17:36 Patrick Bet-David? Got it. So you don't think Harry Sisson believes in what he's saying?
1:17:40 Speaker 02 I know that he didn't think that Biden was fit.
1:17:44 Patrick Bet-David? How do you know that? The way he described Biden was.
1:17:48 Speaker 02 He shared a manager for like a month.
1:17:49 Patrick Bet-David? You guys shared a manager together for a month?
1:17:53 Patrick Bet-David? You're kidding me?
1:17:55 Patrick Bet-David? He made it seem like Biden was a second dad to him.
1:17:59 Speaker 02 Yeah, I mean, I even spent more time with Biden than he did. I think he met Biden like twice.
1:18:06 Patrick Bet-David? And so he just said it because?
1:18:07 Speaker 02 I do want to say, like, Harry, if you're listening to this, I mean, I still like you as a person, I'm sorry, but it is the truth, and you know I'm telling the truth. Like, you didn't think that Biden was fit? You, here's the deal. Here's what happened. People were so terrified of Trump. They believed that he was an existential threat to democracy, so they were willing to say whatever it took to defeat him.
1:18:30 Patrick Bet-David? That you think he believes in? That Trump was an existential threat to democracy?
1:18:34 Speaker 02 He definitely still believes that.
1:18:35 Patrick Bet-David? He just doesn't believe that Biden was a good fit to run.
1:18:38 Speaker 02 No one thinks that, other than, if your last name wasn't Biden, and if you're not on the Biden gravy train, I don't think anyone believes that Biden was fit. I, it was so obvious. His brain was melting in real time. And that's why you read all those tweets that I wrote. Never once did I say he was mentally sharp. I just said, do you remember I said he was kind and compassionate? I was kind of trying to dance around. Like, they asked me to tweet this stuff, but I couldn't say that he was, he had intellect to do it. He didn't.
1:19:09 Patrick Bet-David? What did the DNC think about Vivek?
1:19:13 Speaker 02 Non-factor.
1:19:14 Patrick Bet-David? Non-factor?
1:19:15 Speaker 02 Yeah, and I think it's really interesting that they, um, they call themselves a party of diversity, but they attack these really prominent, um, Indian-Americans or minorities on the Republican side. Like, you see the viciousness that they've gone, with which they've gone after Cash Patel. Like, what happened? I thought you were all for elevating minorities. All of a sudden, Cash Patel is a monster? Like, what happened to the party of DEI? Something else I want to mention. I hate that DEI shit and the woke shit. I want to be very clear. Asian-Americans are not helped by DEI. We are one of the most highest-scoring academic, you know, academic performers.
1:20:00 Speaker 02 So, I see all these critics in our replies saying, "Oh, but she's DEI." No, I'm an Asian-American woman. I'm actually the demographic that is most hurt by these policies.
1:20:12 Patrick Bet-David? That is statistically true. Now, that's statistically true because, yeah, no, you, they look at you as worse than white. I know that sounds kind of weird because, especially these big universities.
1:20:25 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:20:25 Patrick Bet-David? Harvard and a lot of these guys, when they look at the numbers on, on, uh, yeah, because apparently you have an advantage because you get better grades and it's not fair because others should have an opportunity, not you, because you get better scores on your SAT, et cetera.
1:20:39 Speaker 02 I got a 2390 on my SATs.
1:20:41 Patrick Bet-David? Are you bullshitting me? You got a 2390?
1:20:44 Speaker 02 By the way, I took the SATs three times and I scored, I got a 2390 on my second try. I tried, I took it again to get a perfect score. I scored lower the third time. It was like 23 something. But I got waitlisted by Harvard.
1:20:57 Patrick Bet-David? You got 2390 out of 2400?
1:20:59 Speaker 02 Yes, and I got waitlisted by Harvard. I thought my life was over. But can you imagine if I were a black American, if I had gotten a 2390?
1:21:08 Patrick Bet-David? You would have been the president.
1:21:09 Speaker 02 Exactly.
1:21:09 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah. You would have been the president of Harvard overnight. Forget about it. She doesn't even need to go to school.
1:21:15 Speaker 02 But what I mean is, you know, it's just like, it's just totally unfair. So yeah, I, for those numbskulls out there who don't understand how reality works.
1:21:23 Patrick Bet-David? So another question here, but we're getting close to the end here. So DeSantis and Newsom, when that debate took place.
1:21:30 Speaker 02 Oh, my gosh. People were erupting with fury because Harris thought that Newsom was stealing her thunder. Behind the scenes, Harris world was pissed off. People were ripping their hair out. They were so mad at Newsom. Newsom world and Harris world, they hate each other.
1:21:44 Patrick Bet-David? Really?
1:21:45 Speaker 02 Absolutely.
1:21:46 Patrick Bet-David? And they're in the same area, though. So right now, they're talking about-
1:21:48 Speaker 02 That's the problem. Because now Harris is thinking about running for governor. And Harris, oh, and then you see Newsom has a new podcast-
1:21:55 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, I saw that, yeah.
1:21:55 Speaker 02 -to rehabilitate his image because the California fires basically set his career on fire. He still very much wants to run for president.
1:22:02 Patrick Bet-David? I mean, it's very obvious that his ambitions are to be the president of the United States. There's no question about that.
1:22:07 Speaker 02 If you were to open up a dictionary and look up used car salesman, you know whose picture would be there? Gavin Newsom. Like, literally. He's just like embodiment of that.
1:22:18 Patrick Bet-David? There's a lot of big dealership in Sacramento. They may be calling him. Who knows?
1:22:21 Speaker 02 Exactly. And his team reached out to me three years ago because they know I'm a fundraiser. I, pata, these senators and congressmen, before I jumped ship, of course, they would hit me up on a daily basis begging me for money or begging me to host them. I've hosted Senators Tammy Duckworth, Josh Shapiro, like so many members of Congress. And then Ted Lieu comes over a few days before Biden drops and tells me, oh, there's no way Biden is gonna drop. And Biden's definitely gonna win because of abortion. And I'm like, oh, my God, this is like a Democratic leader with the poorest prognostic skills I've ever heard. But I love you, Ted, if you're listening.
1:22:59 Patrick Bet-David? But when this was happening with Newsom and DeSantis, do you think both sides, because DeSantis's people don't like Trump. I mean, it's just, it's where it's at. Right now, in the state of Florida-
1:23:10 Speaker 02 The governor thinks-
1:23:11 Patrick Bet-David? Byron Donalds, you know, Trump is endorsing him, but hey, Ron wants his wife Casey to run, right? So there's also that, you know, where Ron thinks he's a better leader fit to be a president than President Trump was. The question is, do you think this was going on behind closed doors while you're doing fundraising, pre Kamala being in there because they were trying to find a way to get Biden out for Newsom to come in? Did those talks at all take place, or no?
1:23:38 Speaker 02 Newsom was always out there because in his mind, he always thought there was going to be a possibility that Biden wouldn't make it to the end.
1:23:46 Patrick Bet-David? He knew that.
1:23:47 Speaker 02 He knew that.
1:23:48 Patrick Bet-David? And how do you know that he knew that?
1:23:49 Speaker 02 Because, as I mentioned, his team reached out to me three years ago preparing for it.
1:23:53 Patrick Bet-David? 2022, 2021, they reached out.
1:23:55 Speaker 02 2022, 2022, yeah, I remember. They slipped into my DMs.
1:24:04 Speaker 02 Asking me to fundraise. Why would you, I, bear in mind, I live in Pennsylvania, okay? So if you're reaching out to me, it's because you have national ambitions.
1:24:12 Patrick Bet-David? Hmm.
1:24:13 Speaker 02 I'm a national fundraiser.
1:24:14 Patrick Bet-David? And you're in a very important state.
1:24:16 Speaker 02 Exactly.
1:24:16 Patrick Bet-David? Right.
1:24:18 Patrick Bet-David? Right. Wow. So they reached out in 2022, interest of you possibly fundraising for?
1:24:24 Speaker 02 Exactly.
1:24:24 Patrick Bet-David? Did they say for him or for somebody?
1:24:26 Speaker 02 Oh, for, it was a member from Newsom's team, yes.
1:24:29 Patrick Bet-David? And they specifically said?
1:24:30 Speaker 02 And I'll tell you who it is off air, I just want to protect people's privacy. But this is for his, they didn't say presidential campaign. But if you're going to elevate your finance operation?
1:24:39 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah.
1:24:39 Speaker 02 It's for the, like, what is he going to run, for a national dog catcher?
1:24:42 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah. No, for sure, for sure. I mean, that's the, that's the part where, you know, when, when it was happening, I, I never, obviously.
1:24:52 Patrick Bet-David? Was there talks of Biden or others or, you know, Nancy Pelosi, Schumer trying to get rid of Kamala in a way because they knew she didn't stand a chance to win to have more like someone like this running?
1:25:05 Speaker 02 Yes, that's why Pelosi wanted a lightning primary. Obama initially wanted somebody like Mark Kelly. He was vetting somebody like him, the astronaut dude that I?
1:25:14 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, of course.
1:25:15 Speaker 02 Yeah, exactly, so.
1:25:17 Speaker 02 Biden inadvertently did something brilliant. He like fumbled his way into something smart. By picking Kamala, he insulated himself from getting booted out. If he had picked anyone who was even marginally better, they would have removed him months before. Because she was so weak, everyone was left in a catch 22. Do you understand what I'm saying? He picked the worst possible person. I don't know if it was like a Freudian move at that point, but by picking her, he ensured that he would not be removed because everyone knew how bad she was.
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1:26:29 Patrick Bet-David? Wow. So picking a terrible number two that will never be able to outshine the boss, which is Joe Biden.
1:26:36 Speaker 02 And it worked for a while. And what?
1:26:38 Patrick Bet-David? She was horrible. I mean, the border. I mean, were there talks about how to? Like, would there be conversations behind closed doors of, okay, here's how they're going to attack us. This is what we're going to say. Here's how they're going to attack the top three issues they're going to do. But, you know, border, they're going to attack this, they're going to attack that. We're going to say this. Were those types of anticipation of what could happen with Kamala?
1:27:00 Speaker 02 Yeah. Well, she fucked up so badly that she stopped. Did you notice that she disappeared for like a year?
1:27:05 Patrick Bet-David? Mm hmm.
1:27:05 Speaker 02 So after she fucked up on the border and then she was given civil rights, those were her two agenda items. And then she went, she did an interview, I think it was with Lester Holt, and she was laughing about it. And she's like, oh, I didn't go to Europe either. Like when they asked her, why didn't she go to the border? It was a very flippant and disrespectful answer. After those forays into the media world, she took a step back because she was so afraid of saying the wrong thing. So for about a year, she only did the most friendliest interviews. She only went into friendly territory because it was just so bad. She wasn't ready for primetime. But I must say that she did get progressively better, but never to the love, never, never to the level required of a president.
1:27:49 Speaker 02 And I'm just so sad because I fully believe that women are capable of being a president, but she's set back our cause.
1:27:58 Speaker 02 Because the Democrats are certainly not gonna nominate a woman again. It's more like, here's my prediction, Pat. It's more likely that there's gonna be a Republican female president first than a Democratic one.
1:28:12 Patrick Bet-David? I don't know if I disagree. I don't know if I disagree because they're 0-2 now.
1:28:18 Speaker 02 Exactly.
1:28:18 Patrick Bet-David? They're 0-2.
1:28:21 Patrick Bet-David? And I'm sure if there's one person that didn't want Kamala to win behind closed doors is Hillary Clinton. There's no way Hillary sees Kamala as being the first female president than her.
1:28:30 Speaker 02 Also, there's somebody else.
1:28:31 Patrick Bet-David? Who else?
1:28:32 Speaker 02 Gretchen Whitmer, who's fucking pissed.
1:28:34 Patrick Bet-David? Why?
1:28:35 Speaker 02 Because first of all, there's no way that she would have been VP because America wouldn't have accepted two women. So she was not on the shortlist. And she obviously wants to be the president.
1:28:47 Patrick Bet-David? Have you spent time with her?
1:28:48 Speaker 02 She asked me to host her in Philadelphia in 2022. It didn't happen for... Oh, here's why it didn't happen. Because, do you remember this? Do you remember when something exploded? A pipeline exploded? In Michigan, a water pipe exploded? What was that town in Michigan?
1:29:07 Patrick Bet-David? Oh, yes.
1:29:08 Speaker 02 It happened on the same day she was supposed to come to Philadelphia. So the news reports like she canceled her East Coast trip. I don't remember what town it was, but that was the same day I was supposed to help her do the rounds.
1:29:21 Patrick Bet-David? Yeah, I remember.
1:29:22 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:29:24 Patrick Bet-David? Was it the pipeline or was it a different event?
1:29:26 Speaker 02 It wasn't a pipeline, sorry, it was a water issue.
1:29:28 Patrick Bet-David? It was something, I remember something, I just don't think it was a...
1:29:32 Speaker 02 Sorry, I misspoke, I'm not the best.
1:29:34 Patrick Bet-David? I'm trying to see what it was. Okay, well, you were saying, so because of that...
1:29:40 Speaker 02 So she was already planning ahead, is what I mean.
1:29:43 Patrick Bet-David? And so she also can't stand Kamala. So what's gonna happen to Kamala next? Is she done, done permanently?
1:29:48 Speaker 02 She doesn't think she's done. She just signed with CAA, just like Biden. And she is flirting with a run for governor. That's why she's out there doing word salads again. Did you see her latest one about the smell?
1:29:58 Patrick Bet-David? It's embarrassing.
1:29:59 Speaker 02 I don't understand, why does... What's going on in her head?
1:30:02 Patrick Bet-David? It's very embarrassing when you see that. It's not even, it's not even funny how embarrassing it is.
1:30:06 Speaker 02 Like, Pat, what do you think the reason is for that? Is it like stupidity? Like, what's going on here?
1:30:09 Patrick Bet-David? No, it's being too nervous to want to... She always tries to say a very epic thing. Like, she's trying to be like, "If you could only be here."
1:30:20 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:30:20 Patrick Bet-David? It is like so... Smell and she's trying to be so dramatic. She doesn't need to be. She just needs to talk like a regular person. You don't need to be dramatic about it. She tries to be dramatic about everything.
1:30:30 Speaker 02 Because when I speak with her on a one-on-one basis, she's not like this. But all of a sudden, whenever there's a camera in front of her face, she's like, I don't understand.
1:30:38 Patrick Bet-David? You know what it's like? When she was in her twenties, a mentor told her something that she admired so much, could have been the
1:30:45 Speaker 02 Willie Brown.
1:30:45 Patrick Bet-David? The Willie Brown guy or somebody that said something to him. I mean, he was a heavy-duty guy. He was a very deeply connected in a deep kind of way. And, you know, maybe he said something to her that stuck out until today she thinks she needs to always show up when the camera's on. Could have been Montel, could have been somebody. Who knows what was said to her? It's very weird how she reacts.
1:31:04 Speaker 02 I do want to say that if you're thirty-something or in your late twenties dating a six-year-old or something, something, it does raise questions.
1:31:13 Patrick Bet-David? What type of questions?
1:31:16 Speaker 02 Is it for political reasons that you're dating this guy? Especially if he happens to be the mayor of San Francisco? I mean, that's the obvious question, right?
1:31:24 Speaker 02 I think, and it's not, it's not misogynistic for me to raise that question. Because I would never, I mean, I don't want to go there because, but I just think it's very weird. I just think it's very weird.
1:31:39 Patrick Bet-David? You were like, "Yeah, I don't want to go there, but there's a sixty-two-year-old guy that I'm talking to. He's really nice. I would actually think about going on a date with him." You're like, "You know what? Let me not put it out there."
1:31:48 Speaker 02 Exactly. You can read my thought bubble.
1:31:52 Patrick Bet-David? What's so funny? Where you went, "No, listen, I mean, look, the man's got a reputation, okay? He's got a reputation."
1:31:59 Speaker 02 And how she had these like no-show jobs with the six-figure, like, it raises questions.
1:32:04 Patrick Bet-David? I don't know what it was. You know, everybody has different nicknames. I think some guy in L.A. called him a tripod. I don't, I don't know what it was. Whether it was in the media business or something like that. There was something I would say about Willie Brown. But last thing here, anything comes up with Epstein? Anything that comes up with Epstein? Because these Epstein files, do you have an opinion at all? "Hey, you know, it's gonna come out." "No, it's not gonna come out." "Hey, this is what's going on." "No, that's what's going on." How close to you are you following that and what do you know about it?
1:32:30 Speaker 02 I just want to say the fact that the DNC elevated Bill Clinton as one of the keynote speakers at the convention and that they had him running around Georgia, around the East Coast campaigning for Kamala Harris? Disgusting. It was political malpractice. Who does that appeal to? He's already been exposed as a sexual predator. Anything connected to the Clinton name should be discarded and discredited. It's just shameful. It's just shameful.
1:33:01 Speaker 02 And it's frankly scary that Hillary came so close in 2016.
1:33:06 Patrick Bet-David? What do you think would have happened if she would have won?
1:33:08 Speaker 02 It would have been another Bill Clinton presidency.
1:33:12 Patrick Bet-David? He balanced the budget. He did a few things right. You know, if you listen to some of his speech, I actually don't think it would have been Bill Clinton. I think he did some things right. There was a video that we watched play the other day about him saying, "We have fired 300,000 government employees to be able to save money. We are saving money with wasted expenditure. We have, for the first time, balanced the budget for three years in a row, never been done before, and they hit da-da-da." You know, that was kind of a... Some of him and Newt Gingrich actually worked very well together at the time, the stuff that was going on. But I don't put the two together. I think he's very different than her. When I was in Hope, Arkansas, before a funeral,
1:33:58 Patrick Bet-David? I was going on asking people, "Hey, is Bill Clinton the player that everybody say he is?" They're like, "Absolutely." I said, "How do the locals feel about it?" He says, "You ever met Hillary?" I'm like, "No." He says, "If you were married to Hillary, you'd also be running around." Says, "That woman is evil." The guy says at one funeral when she was there and the way she treated people and the way she talked to everybody, he's like, "Man, everybody feared her because she was just an a-hole to all of us." I don't know if this is true or not. I've never had that interaction till the day we break bread, which when one day me and Hillary break bread, that would be an interesting breaking bread. I don't know if I would eat the bread, but I think I would definitely have a conversation.
1:34:35 Speaker 02 You gotta watch out for any...
1:34:36 Patrick Bet-David? Can you imagine?
1:34:37 Speaker 02 Don't take your eyes off the bread.
1:34:39 Patrick Bet-David? Johnny, I'm OK with this, buddy. I'll just take the water. Or you know what? I'll just go across the street to 7-Eleven, grab a bottle of Topo Chico and come back and have a hot dog from 7-Eleven and you can serve the oysters and caviar and whatever you want to serve. But, Lindy, anything else you want to say to the audience before we wrap up?
1:34:57 Speaker 02 I just want to thank you. You've treated me with tremendous respect and graciousness. You and your staff, man, wow, the best staff in the world. This has just been incredible. Thank you for giving me a chance to share my story.
1:35:13 Speaker 02 You are a national treasure. Thank you for everything that you do. Your interviews literally shape international politics, not just within the confines of our country, but Brazil, everywhere. You know, so, thank you. And I loved your speech at CPAC. You absolutely crushed it.
1:35:28 Patrick Bet-David? Thank you. I appreciate you. By the way, Lindy is on Manect. I'm sure there's a lot of questions people got. If you've got any questions, you can go Manect Lindy. And she's officially on Manect. That's a nice dress right there.
1:35:40 Speaker 02 Oh, thank you.
1:35:41 Patrick Bet-David? Yes. She's on Manect, guys. Go find her. We'll put the link below for everybody. Lindy, again, thank you so much for coming out.
1:35:48 Speaker 02 Thank you so much.
1:35:49 Patrick Bet-David? Take care, everybody.
1:35:50 Speaker 02 Hey, guys. I'm so excited to be on Manect. I will answer any questions, no matter what it is, whether it be politics, sex, your love life, family issues, whatever it is, I'm here for you. I want to be your friend. I want to talk with you and understand you. So, please reach out. I can't wait to hear from you. Thanks so much, guys.
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