Hegseth Confirmation Hearings, TikTok Sunday Ban, Bill Burr Wildfire Backlash | PBD Podcast | Ep. 535

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover Pete Hegseth's confirmation hearing, TikTok's ban going into effect, and Bill Burr's wildfire comments sparking backlash!📺 VOTE ON TRUMP'S FIRST 100 DAYS: https://bit.ly/4gXLioq👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH: https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! SUBSCRIBE TO:@VALUETAINMENT @ValuetainmentComedy @theunusualsuspectspodcast @bizdocpodcast ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:50Speaker 03

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• 0:54Speaker 04

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• 1:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't do it, baby.

• 1:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, we're on? Are we on?

• 1:13Patrick Bet-David?

  No, we're not yet. I would never sing love songs on game. So, episode 535. Episode 535 and Tom does the same thing again, he does. Tom is doing his own thing. We're singing a song. But Tom has to be the person that everybody listens to the song Thomas sing.

• 1:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:31Patrick Bet-David?

  This is what we deal with on a daily basis. Folks, you don't witness Tom's bullying behind closed doors.

• 1:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, and then they talk about us like we're bullying him. Egomaniac.

• 1:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Seriously.

• 1:39Tom Ellsworth?

  He just put a border here so I can't pass.

• 1:41Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's get into it. We've got a lot of stuff to cover here with you. As usual, California is getting nastier. And we have some news stories to talk about with California. L.A. Insurance Giant Makes Prediction After Devastating Fire. We'll cover that. L.A. Landlords Jack Up Rent By As Much As 124% Floating Price Gouging Laws During Deadly Wildfires. That's what's going on there. Trump Inauguration Is Around The Corner On For On Monday. Here's what to know about guest list, schedule, performance and more. Michelle Obama skipped Jimmy Carter's funeral. Michelle Obama is also skipping the inauguration.

• 2:24Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll be have, you know, obviously Vinnie has the most creative speculations on why he thinks.

• 2:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:29Patrick Bet-David?

  But we'll process why that is and we'll talk about that. GOP tax leaders, um, US small business could pay more tax than small businesses do in China if Trump cut expires. Small business optimism surges to six-year-high, um, based on Trump's policies. Iran never plotted to kill Trump during campaign. Iran's president tells NBC News, okay? Denmark opens back channel to Trump to discuss Greenland. That's a Wall Street Journal story. Takeaway from Pat, uh, Pam Bondi and Pete Heck said their confirmation hearing. Pam and Adam Schiff had a very friendly conversation together. Elizabeth Warren asked a question from Pete Heck said about being a general. His response is beautiful.

• 3:14Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll talk about that. Bill Burr eviscerates. F'ing idiot internet trolls who say the LA wildfire were mismanaged. He actually says they're doing a good job. Great job, actually. They're doing a great job. Yeah, Bill Burr said that. TikTok responds to rumors China wants to ask Musk to buy the platform. Pure fiction. TikTok faces a ban Sunday. Today is Thursday in three days time. Sunday's the last day for TikTok? Is that what it's looking like based on what they're saying?

• 3:44Tom Ellsworth?

  According to the, according to the federal legislation on the books right now, they've got a deadline.

• 3:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Here we go, okay? TikTok faces a ban Sunday. TikTok preparing for US Sunday shutdown. Everybody's talking about that. We'll address that as well.

• 3:55Tom Ellsworth?

  The pen will show up Monday.

• 3:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Wall Street Journal, even Harvard's MBAs are struggling to land jobs.

• 4:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh.

• 4:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Starbucks major reversal in policy that will force customers to pay. Nine suspected Tren de Aragua gang bangers charged for brutal kidnapping. That's from Daily Caller. Gaza ceasefire deal reached between Israel Hamas truce to begin Sunday and Joe Biden took credit for it. Eagles fan, uh, who cursed out this other lady insults at the Packer supporters fired from DEI-focused consulting job.

• 4:31Patrick Bet-David?

  And then Y 2025 will be the year of the alpha male. Adam has a lot of stuff to say about that. As an alpha male, he claims he is. And then Brad Pitt. This guy, it's just folks, what Vinnie told me with the story, we have to cover this. A man claims to be Brad Pitt, sends pictures and messages to a lady who is married to a very wealthy man. And she actually decides to leave him for Brad. If this thing is true.

• 4:57Speaker 04

  I, I, hold on, I double fact checked it, but wait till you see the photos of what he sent.

• 5:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I can't wait for this. I can't wait for this. And then we got a couple of other things with, um, on the addendum as well. But before we get into this, maybe even a Diddy story that we got to cover. On the Freak Off tapes with the documentaries coming out. So one thing I do like to do here. If you're at Vaityam, we like to make predictions. Okay? And we have a lot of fun with predictions. If you watch the podcast, we make predictions. We play the game of predictions. So, do you think you're pretty good at making predictions? Do you yourself? You're like, I'm very good at making predictions. Well, guess what? We're playing a game. And it's the first 100 days of Donald Trump as a president. And we're playing this game on vtnews.ai with a leader's bulletin, with a contest,

• 5:46Patrick Bet-David?

  with recognition at the end, with prizes at the end. And here's how it works. Every day vtnews.ai is gonna post a prediction for you to make on the website. And you go out there and make the predictions yourself. And by the way, to participate, all you have to do is put your email there. It's free. You don't have to do anything else. For some of you that want to take advantage of all the features that vtnews.ai gives. Upgrade, use it. We use vtnews.ai for our podcasts all the time. And here's how it works. It's starting today. And the way the scoring system works is. The sooner you make the predictions, like Tom is doing it right now to get the highest scores. Look, he's doing it right now. He's not even waiting for us. Tom's been doing this so fast because he wants to be ahead of everybody. But we're gonna show you how this works.

• 6:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's 14 predictions that are officially available on the website. Some of them are gonna be funny, some of them are not, and some of them are gonna tell you exactly how. Many points you can get on those if you get them right. There is more points if you answer faster. So if you want to put a reminder on your phone in the morning. Each prediction will be posted on the website at nine AM Eastern Standard Time. So Rob, let's read some of these predictions. On VT news that AI from the top to bottom. And Vinnie, Tom, Adam, if you guys want to score your predictions now you can. Let's go through them. I'm gonna go. So so number one, I'm not logged in, but we can start it here right now. So. Number one, how many former presidents do you think will attend Trump's inauguration? Okay.

• 7:13Patrick Bet-David?

  None, one, two, three, or four. Okay. And if Michelle doesn't show up, it still counts as Obama showing up. So four is. Everybody shows up. Three is one of them doesn't show up, et cetera, et cetera. Okay. Number two, Trump has stated he has a hundred executive orders planned for day one. How many executive orders will Trump execute? By the end of January twenty first, that's a day after inauguration. You have the breakdown on how many he's gonna do. Go to the next one, Rob. Okay, which Trump cabinet appointee confirmation hearing process will take the longest if they are all confirmed at all? You can pick and choose which one of those are there right there. Go to the next one, Rob. What will the state of US border security look like at the end of Trump's first week in office? It gives you options on what to do.

• 7:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Five, what will happen to Truth Social one month after Trump takes office? Six. Will Trump pardon Snowden the first hundred days? Seven. Will Trump restart the Keystone Pipeline the first hundred days? Eight, how many of Trump's core cabinet members? Will change within the first hundred days? Will Trump once again remove the US? From the Paris Climate Accords in his first hundred days? Ten. How will inflation compare on the day one hundred versus his first day? Eleven, will Trump evoke an executive order in his first hundred days to resume construction on the southern border? The wall that he wanted to build. Twelve. Who will receive executive pardons during Trump's first one hundred days? Rob, can you open that one up? Because that's eight hundred points. And that one, you got a few of them right there. Who do you think is gonna get that? Will it be Biden? January six rioters, himself, Fauci?

• 8:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Mayorkas or none of the above? Go to thirteen, I've got two more to go. Will an incident that creates a security concern happen during Trump's inauguration? And last. will Trump take executive action against TikTok in his first hundred days? If you are good at, by the way, behind closed doors, I just want to prepare you guys. Because Tom is an MBA and the rest of us don't, Tom's been talking shit that is going to kill us in this game. Because Tom is very good at these types of games. So if you want to join us, we're going to go all the way to the hundred day. Which means the hundred day will be a hundred days from January 20th. So it's not going to be done till February, March, April, end of April. Okay, maybe May 1st.

• 9:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And then the winners will have some special surprise and prizes for you guys. So go to VT news dot AI and start posting your predictions now. You do get points the earlier you post. So the second person gets fewer, third fewer, fourth fewer. And the leaders bulletin will be posted with your name there. Make sure your name is there so we can track you. You will see the leaders bulletin of people with the highest scores on their predictions. All right, so let's get right into it. Again, go to VT news dot AI, VT news dot AI to become the news. Tradamos. Tradamos.

• 9:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, that is very good. The Trump, Tradamos. Okay, all right. So the things that's taking place right now, I want to start off with this first story, Tom. And the first story is Los Angeles insurance giants makes prediction after devastating fire in LA. Watch this, folks, okay? And we've been talking about this. Mark, Mike Zuckerman, CEO of CSAA Insurance Group, highlighted the grave risk to California if homeowner insurance available becomes unavailable due to wildfire stating. Not being able to insure homes in California against these kinds of risks will completely upend the state. CSAA is the third largest insurer in California, continues to write new policies, but declined to renew 5,500 policies in 2024.

• 10:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, just 1.2% of its total policy due to wildfires. Zuckerman emphasized the necessity of adjusting insurance prices. I'm gonna read this one more time, folks. He emphasized the necessity of adjusting insurance prices to match what? The increased wildfire risks, explaining this is not.

• 11:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Sign that wildfire wildfires aren't insurable. It is a sign that insurance companies need to be allowed to change to charge. The prices that match the increased risk in order to ensure while CSAA. Raise its home insurance rates by 6.9% this year. Other insurance such as Allstate and State Farm have implemented double digit increases or left. The California market in its entirety. Tom.

• 11:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I got a couple of things on this. And what he's talking about is the overall market. So CEO of insurance company, you would expect him to talk about the overall market. But I've got some some stats down underneath this. He's right. That if they have increased risk, they increase the price. Anybody that has a teenage driver and they got two tickets in their first 18 months of having a driver's license. Your car insurance goes up and you're and then you tell your kid. Hey, you're on my insurance policy, but you know, you can't get any more tickets. And you went to traffic school for that one. You can't do that because take a look. Your mom and I are paying higher car insurance.

• 12:03Tom Ellsworth?

  People in America, American families know about this. You've heard about this, right? So guess what? It's the same thing if they think that your house is at risk. Maybe because brush clearance hasn't happened properly or you're in a wildfire area and they're concerned about it. So the insurance companies are acting, oh, here comes a word. Rationally in a in a normal market. Do they want your business?

• 12:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course they do.

• 12:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Do they want to raise the price so that you don't do business with them?

• 12:29Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 12:30Tom Ellsworth?

  No, they don't. But if it but if it if you're selling me, you know, bananas and fruit. And it's cost more to get here, the shipping, then you have to charge me more for a. Basket of bananas, right?

• 12:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 12:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Because you say, well, the you know, the fuel was up, the shipping was up. I don't know. I went down to the dock and I bought it to my. My fruit wholesaler, Tom, I had to raise the price. Everyone seems to lose their their sense of understanding that that's what's happening here. And all these headlines are crazy, but I'll tell you something else. It's crazy. When the rates were going up. People changed coverages of the policy.

• 13:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm-hmm.

• 13:07Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, you can save on your car insurance policy. You know how you do it?

• 13:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I called the insurance company. I go, you know what? I don't need this. I don't need, like, I lowered the, the, the cost of like, um, if somebody else gets injured in my accident.

• 13:18Tom Ellsworth?

  The deductible.

• 13:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, everything.

• 13:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Maybe you say, well, you know what? I got a little bit more money now. I don't need 500 deductible. I can do 2,000. So the first 2,000 of a car crash is mine.

• 13:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 13:28Tom Ellsworth?

  And guess what? And they say, oh, that's great, Mr. Ashana. You just saved 8% on your premium. That's the way it works. Well, check this out.

• 13:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Yesterday, I dug into it. Insurance analysis group says 74% of homeowners are underinsured for what's called the complete loss and ALE. You know what ALE is? Alternative living expenses. Alternative living expenses are usually only 20% of the coverage you choose to have on your house. So if your house is 700,000, your alternative living coverage is 20% of that. 140 grand. And if it takes three years to rebuild the house, you are going to blow through that. Or if rents go up, and we're going to see that story a little bit,

• 14:22Tom Ellsworth?

  you're going to blow right through the lid on that. And guess what you're going to have to do? Decide to sell the property or figure out a way to self-finance.

• 14:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So let me tell you guys what happened. Like a perfect example of a story. Francis Bichetti in California, he owns a house in Palisades. He's been there for decades. He's been living in Palisades for 50 years on and off, but he's owned this house for a couple of decades, give or take.

• 14:45Patrick Bet-David?

  His insurance premium last year, he gets word that his premium just went from $4,500 to $18,000 a year.

• 14:55Patrick Bet-David?

  From forty-five hundred, Rob, if you want to pull up the story, Francis Bichetti Brandon, if you guys can send it to Rob so he has it to pull it up. This is a Wall Street Journal story. It went from forty-five hundred dollars to eighteen thousand dollars a year. A year ago, he gets this letter, okay? When he gets this letter, um, he sits there, he says, there's no way in the frickin way I can afford to do this. So he doesn't do anything with it. He goes to the fair plan, which the fair plan is thirty-two hundred dollars a year, and they protect your house, I think up to three million dollars.

• 15:29Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 15:29Patrick Bet-David?

  But when he goes to the fair plan to approve for it, they tell him to cut ten trees on the side of his house.

• 15:35Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 15:36Patrick Bet-David?

  He looks at the cost of cutting the ten trees, he says, I can't afford to do this. So he decides to not cut the trees. So he doesn't even get the fair plan. Then he goes and does something in California, they say going bear. That means you don't have any insurance. That's what it's called, going bear. I'm gonna go bear, and I have nothing, not fair plan, not homeowner's insurance, he has nothing.

• 15:59Speaker 04

  And you can do it if you have no mortgage.

• 16:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You can do it if you have no mortgage. You know what ends up happening? His house burned down.

• 16:04Speaker 04

  Oh, man.

• 16:06Patrick Bet-David?

  A hundred percent of his house burned down. So guess what he doesn't have to do right now? He has no insurance to pay for it, no fair plan, nothing to do anything with it. By the way, the fair plan, I'm talking to a fellow yesterday who is very successful real estate businessman, and, uh, we're having this conversation, he's here. We've known each other for a long time, you know who he is. And I just want to keep it private because of the conversation that we had. And he's here, we're sitting in a hangar, having a great conversation together. His house burns down in Malibu.

• 16:39Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 16:41Patrick Bet-David?

  The guys next door, a lot of the people there whose houses burned down in Malibu, a lot of them had only the fair plan. The fair plan apparently only protects up to three million dollars.

• 16:53Speaker 04

  And they have twenty-fifty million dollar houses, right?

• 16:55Patrick Bet-David?

  So if you got a twenty million dollar house with only a fair plan. That $20 million house is now only getting a $3 million insurance policy to rebuild. That $17 million has to come out of whose pocket, right there. Look at this. California's Fair Plan ensures payments for natural disasters up to what? $3 million for residential policy holders. So imagine you're sitting there saying, "Where the hell am I gonna come up with this other $17 million?" You're not. But a guy's gonna come to you and say, "Look, I know you're kind of screwed here and to rebuild it. I'll give you $5 million." And that's exactly what you were talking about. Which, by the way, watch what happened yesterday. Gavin Newsom yesterday tweets out a video from the podcast.

• 17:38Patrick Bet-David?

  If you can go to, if you can go, you can go right there. This is Gavin Newsom, and he says, "This is absolutely false." From his account, "I signed an executive order to protect residents from predatory land speculators and developers." Here's Vinny talking about this in this clip.

• 17:55Speaker 04

  And look what he did. They had those fact checkers?

• 17:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I know. I saw that. Community note. So go a little, go a little, we gotta give credit to who posted this as well. So, Wall Street Apes posted. And in the description, it says, "California Governor Newsom officially setting the stage for developers to come and buy up the devastated land in LA Pacific Palisades." Play the clip if you can, Rob, from the podcast. If you can go and play this clip. Go for it. Watch this.

• 18:18Speaker 04

  Where Newsom is talking about calling Josh Green, the Maui fires, okay? They exposed the same stuff that's happening right now. Government failure, delayed response, ignored warnings, and all these priorities. He says something about reimagining California, where he calls the Maui guy, and this is what bothers me, Tom. Those people that you're talking about now that have nothing, okay? That the house was worth, let's say, 10 million, in regard to insurance. Now, if somebody comes and wants to buy up the land, Tom, they could offer them way less and say, "Listen, everything's gone. You didn't have the right insurance. We're gonna give you this much money cash, Tom. Go about your business. Am I right?"

• 18:52Tom Ellsworth?

  People that had their house paid off.

• 18:53Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 18:54Tom Ellsworth?

  That, for some of them that don't have the resources and were underinsured, that is their only choice.

• 18:58Speaker 04

  Jeez.

• 18:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so watch this. So, so, so Tom and Vinny are talking about this. Now, watch this. Go back to my account, Rob. Go back, if you could, to the Twitter. You just go back. Yeah, there you go. Zoom in on that same thing. Zoom in if you could. His executive order, after the team looked at it, okay? The executive order, he said, "To not allow people of predatory land speculators and developers for people to come and pick it up, is only for three months."

• 19:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Weird.

• 19:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And it mandates property offers that meet market value. How long you think, when we're talking about it, how long you think it's gonna take to clean out the debris alone? For homeowners? And then for people to say, "I wanna sell the house." How often did you say, "I wanna sell my house"? Ninety days later, you sell the house. How often have you done that? It doesn't happen like that unless if you're like a peak, peak, peak, peak market where everything's going like this. But in a situation like that, this is gonna take six to 12 months. So yeah, we put, we put an executive order to protect on all that lip-slap and stuff. Nah, this is just a public, political PR stunt. People are being impacted right now directly and this insurance could be the number one reason why it leads to the California Exodus. And, and by the way, here's a part.

• 20:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You can sit there and try to spin it all you want. You know how long it's gonna take to clean this? I'm having a conversation yesterday, we're having a meeting with the, the mayor of Fort Lauderdale. We're sitting and having a conversation together. And, and the amount of people right now that are looking at moving, like cities that like cities in Texas, cities in Nevada, places in here. Like, we're already getting people asking that they wanna come down here. We're already getting people interested that are leaving. Because how long, Tom? And this could go to any one of you guys here. This goes to everybody. And folks, you're listening to this. Comment, bro. Rob, can you put a poll? How long you think it's gonna take those areas to recover from this where it goes back to normal? One to three years? Three to five years? Five to 10 years? Or 10 years plus?

• 20:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Run those numbers. Tom, how long you think it's gonna take?

• 20:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, I did some research on this. At the end of three years, less than 20% of the homes will be finished.

• 21:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Less than 20%?

• 21:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Three years from now, they estimate 17 to 20% of the homes will be finished three years from now. And those will be some of the smaller ones. These bigger ones in Malibu, these are five-year projects that are gonna act to go through a thing called the Coastal Commission, advanced permitting. So there it is. 17 to 20% in three years.

• 21:21Speaker 04

  So, so I would say five to 10 years. And in fact, you got your question. So, let's say you had that, how much was that guy's house? 15 million? The one, the Palisades that burned down? And now they're only gonna give him?

• 21:30Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I'm saying the Malibu houses on the water that all burned down. Most of them burned down. If it's 20 million, you only get 3 million from the fair.

• 21:36Tom Ellsworth?

  So now, so now here's my question to you. Now you have that 3 million. You have to rebuild. Listen, you're not gonna have the 20 million. So now that property, you're gonna build a, let's say you're not gonna build a 20 million dollar house. You're gonna what? Build a 3 million dollar house now? You can't.

• 21:48Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not possible.

• 21:49Tom Ellsworth?

  But that's what I'm saying. So now, that's, that's going to my point. So now, you're gonna take that money, that land, what, can you, what are you gonna do with that land? You're just gonna sell it? Is that what you're gonna do? You just sell the land that I have?

• 22:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, here, here's what it comes down to. How many of those buyers bought it that have an additional 50, 100 million sitting there? How many people that, like, for example, when a person buys a million dollar house, just make it simplified. Bring it to a million dollar house. If a person buys a million dollar house, how many people have a million dollars in cash? Very few. Of course. Very few. How many, what percentage you think? How many, if you buy a million dollar house? How many people that buy a million dollar house have a million in cash? Uh, less than 5%. Would you agree with that? I think it's maybe even smaller than that.

• 22:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Watch this, I'll give it to you, give you the stats. So, home purchases were down 70%.

• 22:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 22:39Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, here in South Florida. And of the remaining, so that's, means you're only selling 30% as, as much as two years prior. Makes sense? 70% down, 30%. Of the 30%, they said that 50% were cash buyers. So that's 15% of the original total. So using stats from South Florida, it estimates that of higher end homes, about 15% of them are full cash buyers.

• 23:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so then if you look at that, so let's say 15% of people have the cash, okay, to buy it.

• 23:08Tom Ellsworth?

  That sounds about right.

• 23:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let's just say 5 to 15%. So now, that's at a million. Go to the 20 million dollar homes in Malibu. What percentage of the people that bought a 20 million dollar have 20 million dollars in cash sitting there?

• 23:19Tom Ellsworth?

  It goes up, it's probably, but it's probably only 30%. It's gonna go up to afford those houses.

• 23:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, of the 30% that have the money to be able to pay for those houses, how many of them are gonna say, yeah, yeah honey, let's make this mistake again. No one in California is gonna pretend as.

• 23:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's do it. Let's double down.

• 23:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Hell, to the no. It's gonna be a new person that wants to take the risk. So they're gonna sell at a discount. How much is that discount? Depends on how much insurance they had. There's a lot of things that's. gonna come into play here, but the reality of it is this is not done. Uh, 2,500 votes, most people said it's gonna take five to 10 years. Look, 72% of people say it's gonna take more than five years for this thing to come back up. 72% is gonna take that long for it to recover. Adam, final thoughts?

• 23:59Speaker 04

  Well, you know, it's funny because I get all these emails from insurance companies and, you know, we're in this industry. I got an email from the Insurance Department of California. Now typically, I just delete this. What do I care about the insurance company? I'm in, I'm in Florida. But what I found is interesting is this. This is from, scroll over to the bottom, just so you see who this is from. State of California, if you go to the very bottom, this is signed from Ricardo Lara, the Insurance Commissioner of California. I actually want to get your perspective on this, where, if you've ever seen anything like this. Says, whereas the dwellings of the thousands of California residents that have been destroyed or damaged, hundreds of businesses, structures have been destroyed, damaged, and uh, tens of thousands of California residents that have been evacuated

• 24:38Speaker 04

  of their homes by the Palisades eaten several fires. Boom, boom, boom. Whereas the magnitude of these fires are associated, insurance claims are likely to create a shortage of qualified insurance adjusters. So now I, Ricardo Lara, the Insurance Commissioner of the State of California, in accordance with the authority of the vested in my section, yada, yada, yada, hereby declare an emergency situation to exist with a respect to the adjustment of insurance claims arising from the wildfires. And he gives three main points. Therefore, I authorize the following. Number one, the work performed by non-licensed adjusters is under the active direction, control, charge, and/or management of qualified insurance adjuster, qualified manager.

• 25:21Speaker 04

  That makes pretty much sense. Qualified. Here's where it gets weird. Number two, the non-licensed adjuster register with the Insurance Commissioner within 15 days of the date to which the non-licensed adjuster commences the claims, adjustment activity in connection with the wildfires. So that, scroll down, Rob.

• 25:41Speaker 04

  All claims adjusters, basically how I'm interpreting this, you tell me. You don't even need license adjusters. You don't even need to be quote unquote, a, a person who has been vetted. This is not something that, there, there's such a shortage of this adjourn, assurance adjustments. But they're basically making exceptions here. And they're giving this, here's the final part, any qualified adjuster, qualified manager, insurer, authorized to do business in California, activity directs, controls or charges, and or manages or non-licensed adjuster may be held liable. Have you ever seen anything like this? Where it, tell me if I'm wrong.

• 26:13Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me tell you what this is.

• 26:13Speaker 04

  If you don't have insurance license, let's say, hey, hey, guys, we need more life insurance in California. We're underinsured. Hey, you don't even need a license to go sell.

• 26:22Patrick Bet-David?

  I got you, bro.

• 26:23Speaker 04

  I'm trying to understand this, go ahead.

• 26:25Patrick Bet-David?

  But this is a, Ricardo Lara, you think he's a liberal or a conservative? Most people that work in the Department of Insurance, Rob, can you look up who this Ricardo Lara is? Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara and see who appointed him? Okay, Ricardo Lara, Insurance Commissioner, who appointed him?

• 26:43Speaker 04

  He's in California, so you have to sort of speculate that he's on the left.

• 26:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, he ran for Senate as a Democrat in 2012, 2019, okay. Uh, he served as California Senate, okay. So guess what? Here's a Democrat that is forced to deregulate. This is a form of deregulation. Because, think about it, pre 1929, people who sold stocks, they didn't have Series 7s. You're just like, I want to sell stock. No, there was no licensing, there's no, licensing only came after all the people got caught manipulating the stock market, the big crash, and then, uh, uh, uh, FDR goes to Joseph Kennedy, brings him in to start SEC, SEC gets started, then they start saying, we need fingerprints because you're handling

• 27:31Patrick Bet-David?

  people's money, then the Series 7, take this test, take that test, then investment, you know, all these 1934, all this 1933, that's when all this stuff gets started, right? So this is a form of deregulating to accelerate. It's almost a contradiction for them. They don't know they're doing this, they're deregulating. They're lowering regulations, they're lowering the barrier of entry of doing something like this because their overregulation has limited the amount of people they need as adjusters to come and help them out.

• 28:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Sure.

• 28:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You understand what I'm saying?

• 28:04Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 28:05Patrick Bet-David?

  In your mind, what you're saying is they're lowering standards to get anybody to come in. Both could be true, but to them, it's a form of deregulation. Tom, would you agree?

• 28:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I completely agree. And what they're trying to do is, let's say,

• 28:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Does that make sense?

• 28:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's say, Yeah, well, I guess my, my only question would be, there's overregulation and there's underregulation.

• 28:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 28:24Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, I've seen you, I mean, how many, how many insurance agents has PHP?

• 28:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Nearly sixty thousand we've licensed.

• 28:30Tom Ellsworth?

  So there, you have standards there. You have a fast start, like,

• 28:34Patrick Bet-David?

  We do, we do, but I tell you.

• 28:36Tom Ellsworth?

  You can't just, nobody can just start selling insurance.

• 28:38Patrick Bet-David?

  But I tell you, okay, okay, what do I need to do right now to sell? What license do I need to do Facebook ads for your company of ten million a year?

• 28:45Tom Ellsworth?

  There's no license.

• 28:46Patrick Bet-David?

  So why not? But that's the point. Is it a good thing or a bad thing? It's a good thing.

• 28:50Tom Ellsworth?

  I see what you're saying.

• 28:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So do you necessarily need a license to sell insurance in some places? Maybe, maybe not. Driving cars, is it good that we're giving people? I agree. So you see how this works?

• 28:59Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, I wouldn't know anything about that, but okay.

• 29:00Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but, but the point is in some area it does, in some area it doesn't. When you're dealing with people's finances, it's probably a good idea for you to go out there and learn some of the rules and regulations and stuff and learn, you know, the continuing education is actually a very good thing that they're doing. It's needed, trust me. Cause we had a lot of headaches with that, with some people, but going back to you, Tom, form of deregulation.

• 29:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. So Adam, let's say you're Allstate and I'm State Farm. The number of people, we have to send an adjuster out to take pictures. Your car cuts in a crash, a guy comes out with a camera, takes pictures, surveys your car, unless it's on a tow truck and a junkyard, right? Okay, that's the adjuster. So what they're saying is that you and me, we're like, how are we gonna get? How do we set appointments? It's gonna be a month to set all these appointments for an adjuster to go out, take pictures, site survey, they'll put a drone up, you know, I read about this. And that's what they need to do. The chimney was standing, the thing's completely done, they see the rest of the street. And then that, that now goes to Pat and Vinny, who are now in the claims office. Looking at it, okay, yeah, I just got from the adjusters here. I see what your property was.

• 30:05Tom Ellsworth?

  So they need, they're gonna have the adjusters go out and do it. Previously, the state put all these restrictions, so you and me didn't have enough adjusters. Now, we've got emergency adjusters, so we can get the information into the claims people and we can start helping them. And I bet you that this was the insurance people, like you and me, the carriers, calling Sacramento and saying, "Listen, you've, you've, you've put a lot of restrictions on us on the past, "but we need an emergency certification program so that we can get adjusters out, taking pictures of property, "meeting with our customers, so that we can get their stuff into the claims office and start the process." And so, this is, this is a liberal doing something that doesn't look liberal, "but he's doing it because I think that the..."

• 30:45Patrick Bet-David?

  He has no other choice.

• 30:46Tom Ellsworth?

  The carriers are screaming.

• 30:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 30:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you think so, Pat?

• 30:48Patrick Bet-David?

  We're on the same page, but you're asking a very, very good question. At a time like this, I think they're actually making the right choice. They have to do this right now. At a time like this, they're making the right choice.

• 31:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Has insurance, the concept of insurance, whether it's home insurance, whether it's auto insurance, "whether it's health insurance, whether it's life insurance, "has it ever been this much on the forefront? A month ago, the number one story in the world was Luigi Mangione about the concept and the situation that's going on with health insurance. Now, homeowners insurance.

• 31:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 31:22Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll say this. I see so many people that have car insurance, but they don't have life insurance. I see people that have renters insurance, but they don't have disability insurance. The number one asset in your life is not your car, it's not your house, it's not your business, it's you. So this is why I think people are so worked up about what's going on with their health insurance.

• 31:42Patrick Bet-David?

  The good thing with insurance, here's a good thing with insurance, specifically life insurance.

• 31:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Mm-hmm.

• 31:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Not, not, not a lot of other stuff. I've been in insurance for 25 years. I can tell you how many times the death benefit wasn't paid out. And each time the death benefit wasn't paid out... There was something to do with the beneficiary that they had somebody else pee for them, that that somebody else do the blood for them, that there was some kind of first two years in contestability clause where something happened.

• 32:06Tom Ellsworth?

  I guarantee you it's very few.

• 32:08Patrick Bet-David?

  But it's very few, they pay out, they pay out. Now, when it comes on to auto insurance, other stuff, those guys will do anything and everything they can to not pay out. So many people have bad experience of only getting 3,000 on a car being totaled, like what are you talking about, it's $22,000, what am I gonna do with 3,000? It's very different with life than auto, than health, than homeowners, we have to isolate all of these very, very different spaces.

• 32:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you could be, in my opinion, humble opinion, I know plenty of life insurance professionals, I don't know too many like, you know, renters insurance professionals.

• 32:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's get to the next story. So check this out, this kind of going still with LA, I want to get to the story here, LA fires causing landlords to jack up rent as much as 128% and flouting price gouging laws during deadly wildfires. LA landlords are illegally raising rents above the 10% limit imposed during the state of emergency declared by Governor Newsom after wildfires destroyed 12,000 structures. A five-bedroom Santa Monica home increased from 12,500 to $28,000 a month, 124% high. Chelsea Kirk from Strategic Actions, for a just economy compound and crowdsourced spreadsheet

• 33:23Patrick Bet-David?

  documenting such violations, while Jason Oppenheim at Netflix's Selling Sunset called the practice illegal and immoral. Real estate agents report widespread gouging with Samira Tapia finding nearly 100 listings out of 400 surveyed that violated the price cap. In one case, a North Hollywood rental rose by $800 overnight to $5,700. Laura Kate Jones noted that landlords are exploiting desperation, people are so panicked and desperate to get into a house right now that they're throwing money into the wind. Tom?

• 33:55Tom Ellsworth?

  I think there's two sides that I feel on this. First of all, I do think that if landlords are doing this much of a gouge just because they can, you know, there's a certain part of me that just, that doesn't like that. But the other side of it, once again, consumers, this happens to us all the time. Have you noticed what an Uber cost in New York City or LA between 5:00 and 7:00 PM? Guess what? Surge pricing. What do you mean surge in what surge in demand surge in demand goes up prices go up so people understand we pay this in our lives all the time guess what you know you wait until a week before you travel the plane tickets more of course where you go to see your mom yeah do you get your plane

• 34:40Tom Ellsworth?

  tickets ahead of time one month I think it's 20 22 days is like the average and why do you do that because it's cheaper why is it cheaper because all 300 seats are available yeah exactly when there's only 10 seats available and there's 11 people on the website trying to get the last seat

• 34:53Patrick Bet-David?

  check the price

• 34:54Tom Ellsworth?

  the price goes up so surge pricing happens all the time but I think somewhere between you know a 175% hike and a natural increase because the there's a shortage in available renters you know there's there's also you know do you want to operate a business in a neighborhood and be known as a good and friendly business person of course do you want to have customers like that sure you do so there's going to be surge pricing there's going to be things like this but I do think some of this is you know in in the realm of super spiking and alternative living expenses Pat we were just talking about what if only 20% of your coverage was alternative living expenses

• 35:37Tom Ellsworth?

  and you're forced the rent to go here you're going to be out of out of coverage quickly

• 35:42Patrick Bet-David?

  yeah so so a part of me with with this rate hikes that are taking place there's there's words you can say to them on what they're doing um and you know it's it's but at the same time in my opinion I I want them to do it yeah do you know why I want them to do it I want that I want them to be able to do it because you learn about you know you learn about what they're like and who they are yeah you want you want to learn to say that this is what they're doing now right and you know this is an average like remember the guy the mattress Houston guy what's his guys the mattress Mattress Mac, right?

• 36:23Tom Ellsworth?

  The Super Bowl guy.

• 36:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Hurricane hits, Mattress Mac.

• 36:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Jim.

• 36:26Patrick Bet-David?

  What does he say? He opens it up. And he helps people out. Mattress Mac. This guy is loved in a city. Mattress Mac. When hurricane hits, he opens it up. Do you remember what happened in Houston when hurricane hit? What, uh, uh, uh, Joel Osteen's church did?

• 36:40Tom Ellsworth?

  They didn't want to let nobody. They closed the doors because they. Come in and sleep with the Lord. No, no, no. They should have. Let's just talk facts. The facts were they closed their doors rather than open them as a relief center because they didn't want all those people and potential damage or all the cleanup they were gonna have to do. They closed the doors. That's a fact.

• 36:58Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. So that, and then he had to come back and explain himself a couple of days later.

• 37:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 37:04Patrick Bet-David?

  But they did. And guess what? You know, that's a mistake. It doesn't mean he's a bad person. It just means we learned. You made a bad mistake. Hey, look, that's what that's about. You'll learn. You'll learn about these types of moments. But at the same time, when you're looking at what's going on right now with California and businesses are doing that, what else do you think is gonna happen now? What do you think construction companies are gonna do? You think they're gonna give a discount?

• 37:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Hell, no.

• 37:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's what a construction company is gonna say. He's gonna be like, hey, man, uh, Johnny, I want you to help me rebuild my Malibu home the fastest. Uh, Tom, respectfully, I have 80 other people that are asking me to do it. And I'm all, I'm all about to go into construction. What's the guy offering you? He's offering me 600 bucks a square foot. He's gonna, I'll do 800. Okay, so now, he calls him. He says, hey, man, Pat's wanting to do it for 800. I'll do 900. What do you think this construction guy is? Which job you think he's going to take? Honestly, actually think about it.

• 38:02Tom Ellsworth?

  The one that's gonna get, make him more money.

• 38:03Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think he's gonna take? Like, what do you think happens when war happens? Are weapons of mass destruction discount it?

• 38:08Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 38:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, when war happens, do you think they're selling, you know, planes and all this? Hey, guess what? These missiles are on discount because there's war.

• 38:15Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 38:15Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 38:16Tom Ellsworth?

  The price stays the same.

• 38:16Patrick Bet-David?

  They sell. Tom, what's, what, what?

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• 39:01Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I'm not.

• 39:01Speaker 04

  Why are you looking at Vinny like he's an idiot?

• 39:03Tom Ellsworth?

  He knows what he's talking about.

• 39:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You want to say something? Go ahead.

• 39:05Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I was like, yes.

• 39:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 39:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm agreeing with this.

• 39:08Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I think you want to say something though. Go ahead.

• 39:10Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I don't. I don't have anything to say. I'm reacting. It's like, yeah, exactly.

• 39:13Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so when, when, when this happens, when this happens, the market goes higher. The demand goes higher. Whether that's a good thing or not, it's what the hand you're dealt. It's the hand you're dealt. You're dealt that hand. You know what I'm saying? So what are you going to do in that moment? You don't know. I mean, this is, this is a bigger travesty than people are thinking about. People are going to leave. They're going to sit there and have to make a decision on what they're going to do. Their, here's what they're going to do. Say to people that want to stay in California. You're like, I'm not leaving California. What area in California do you want to live in?

• 39:49Tom Ellsworth?

  After this?

• 39:50Patrick Bet-David?

  What is an area in California that has no trees or no wildlife, no any of that stuff? Where would you go, Tom?

• 39:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Downtown. Mojave Desert, Lancaster.

• 39:58Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what, that's exactly the point.

• 40:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. But you're not downtown, it's expensive as shit.

• 40:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You're going to go to a place that's away from everybody.

• 40:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh my God.

• 40:05Patrick Bet-David?

  You're going to go to a place that's away from everybody. You're going to have to make some changes. Because it's, it's going to keep repeating itself. This is a bigger thing than people are thinking about. And Exodus is around the corner. And a massive one. Adam, final thoughts?

• 40:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you know, obviously we're, we're focused on California right now, but we dealt with this during COVID.

• 40:27Speaker 04

  I mean, I moved from Miami to the, one of the greatest cities on the planet, Addison, Texas to join PBD and Valuetainment and started the PBD podcast. And a year and a half later, after I left Miami, I called my landlord. Here's actually a perspective. I was paying about $4,000 in rent for a sick condo downtown Miami. Views, views, views, amazing. During COVID, uh, my lease was up. I was like, look, man, I'm out. I'm moving to Dallas. He's like, I will lower your rent. Please stay. I was like, I'm leaving. He goes, I will cut your rent in half. I was like, oh my God, like, I don't think you understand. I'm, I'm leaving, I'm out.

• 41:07Speaker 04

  A year and a half later, I call him, move back, get the office in Boca. I call him and then now we're, get the office in Fort Lauderdale. I say, hey, by the way, I'm, I'm moving back down. Is that unit still available? It is. Oh, great. What are you charging for rent now? He goes, let me check real quick. He goes, uh, $8,000. I said, what? I said, a year and a half ago, I was paying $4,000. You offered me two and now you're charging double. He goes, hey, that's the market, bro. What's my point? Free market capitalism is prevailing. Lazy fair economics, it is what it is. Just because there's disasters, just because there's COVID, just because there's, the world is on fire.

• 41:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Very good point on the opposite side.

• 41:50Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 41:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Very good point on the opposite side. Supply and demand, you have too much of it. What do you do? You're now discounted.

• 41:57Speaker 04

  Yes. Exactly. I mean, we saw, we see in, in New York, they have rent control or there's price control. These are all sort of forms of what? Communism, socialism, collectivism. So the free market at the end of the day is going to dictate how we all operate.

• 42:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let's go to the next story. All right. So Rob, if you want to pull up Pete Hackett and Pam Bondi, when they're being sworn, when they're going through their hearings, maybe let's look at what happened here. Some of these things, guys, it's so entertaining watching this. Rob, I'll let you pick whichever ones you want to pick. Maybe pick the one where Elizabeth Warren is saying, if you're a general, you know, and if you're going through this, go for it. Watch this exchange here, folks.

• 42:34Speaker 04

  In other words, you're not quite sure that every general who serves should not go directly into the defense industry for 10 years. You're not willing to make that same pledge? I'm not a general.

• 42:50Patrick Bet-David?

  You're a.

• 42:53Speaker 04

  You'll be the one. Let us just be clear, in charge of the generals.

• 42:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, did you see the guy next to her? Hilarious. Angus King? Hilarious. You're talking about the older white guy? The old guy. Angus King, yeah. He almost had a heart attack. Rob, what else, what else do you have with, uh, is this, uh, Bondi? Yes. Okay, let's see this, because this is, this is entertaining. Go for it.

• 43:12Speaker 04

  Has called for it publicly. You are aware of that, aren't you?

• 43:16Speaker 03

  No one has asked me to investigate.

• 43:18Speaker 04

  But the president has called.

• 43:19Speaker 03

  We're also worried about Liz Cheney, Senator.

• 43:21Speaker 04

  The president has called for this.

• 43:22Speaker 03

  You know what we should be worried about?

• 43:23Speaker 04

  Ms. Bondi, please answer my questions.

• 43:25Speaker 03

  The crime rate in California right now is through the roof.

• 43:27Speaker 04

  Ms. Bondi.

• 43:27Speaker 03

  Your robberies are eighty-seven percent higher than the national average.

• 43:32Speaker 04

  My question is this.

• 43:32Speaker 03

  That's what I want to be focused on, Senator.

• 43:34Speaker 04

  Do you have the power to say no to the president? And what you're suggesting today by your non-answer is you don't have the independents to say no to the president. So let me ask you a different question.

• 43:44Patrick Bet-David?

  She's fifty-nine.

• 43:44Speaker 04

  It also requires you.

• 43:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 43:46Speaker 04

  If you're going to be a good attorney general, to be able to tell hard truths to the president. So my questions now are, can you tell hard truths to the president? So let me start with an easy truth that you could speak to the president. Can you tell us, can you tell him that Donald Trump lost the 2020 election? Can you say that? Do you have the independents to say that? Do you have the gravitas, the stature, the intestinal fortitude to say, Donald Trump, you lost the 2020 election? Can you tell us that here today?

• 44:17Speaker 03

  Senator, what I can tell you is I will never play politics. You're trying to engage me in a gotcha. I won't do it.

• 44:24Speaker 04

  I'll just ask you a simple question. If you can speak truth to power. So let me ask you another.

• 44:28Speaker 03

  Like you did, leaking your colleague Devin Nunes's memo.

• 44:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, bingo. Look at the size of the ring on her, uh.

• 44:35Speaker 03

  I will look at every file. I am asked to look at.

• 44:38Speaker 04

  So will you advise the president?

• 44:40Speaker 03

  Can I answer the question?

• 44:41Speaker 04

  Well, my question is.

• 44:41Speaker 03

  I would have plenty of staff. You said, of course you want?

• 44:44Speaker 04

  You, you'll be able to review hundreds of cases on the first day?

• 44:48Speaker 03

  This body, nor you.

• 44:51Speaker 04

  All right, let me ask another.

• 44:51Speaker 03

  You don't want to answer that, let me answer another question. You were censured by Congress, Senator, for comments just like this that are so reckless. It will also be important.

• 44:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, this episode of Jerry Springer was one of my favorites.

• 45:03Speaker 04

  No, but he's absolutely, he's one of the worst. He's in the top five of the worst and he knows what's coming too. He knows.

• 45:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Is there another one, Rob? Is there anything else with Pete you have or Pam?

• 45:11Tom Ellsworth?

  I have a bunch of, so I have Pete Hegseth defending his seven-year-old daughter to Tim Kaine. Pete Hegseth saying that he was the victim of a coordinated smear campaign. I have Pete Hegseth with Kirsten Gillibrand. Kirsten Gillibrand, yeah. And then I also have Pete Hegseth defending women in the military. I think the Gillibrand and defending.

• 45:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you know which one is good. So, so play the one about, uh, women in the military where, you know, the comments he made in the past before, women shouldn't be in the front lines. Yeah, this is the one. This is the one.

• 45:42Tom Ellsworth?

  And then there's a great clip to follow up where he explains his support of women.

• 45:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it. Play this clip.

• 45:47Speaker 04

  You said in your statement, you don't want politics in the DOD. Everything you've said in these public statements is politics. I don't want women, I don't want moms. What's wrong with a mom, by the way? Once you have babies, you therefore are no longer able to be lethal? I mean, you're basically saying women after they have children can't ever serve in the military in combat roles. It's a silly thing to say. It's a silly thing to say. Beneath the position that you are aspiring to.

• 46:12Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, whoever was Pete's hair, you know, hairstylist, you gotta get a shout out.

• 46:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Pete's an absolute stud and they're just trying to come up and basically lambast him and bring him down.

• 46:23Speaker 04

  As Secretary of Defense, will you support women continuing to have the opportunity to serve in combat roles?

• 46:30Tom Ellsworth?

  She's a Republican who served.

• 46:32Speaker 04

  Senator, first of all, thank you for your service, as we discussed extensively as well. It's my privilege. And my answer is yes. Exactly the way that you caveated it. Yes, women will have access. As to ground combat roles, combat roles, given the standards remain high and we'll have a review to ensure the standards have not been eroded in any one of these cases. That'll be part of one of the first things we do at the Pentagon is reviewing that in a gender neutral way. The standards ensuring readiness and meritocracy is front and center. But absolutely, it would be the privilege of a lifetime to, if confirmed, to be the Secretary of Defense for all men and women in uniform.

• 47:14Patrick Bet-David?

  So let me, let me ask this question. Vinny, I'll come to you. So do you think it's a good idea to have women on the front lines? You're a former vet, you're, you're, you're Air Force, you know, you were Airman of the Year. Out of all the soldiers in, uh, uh, Air Force, the year you got it, do you think women should be on the front line? Um, okay, and, and since we haven't been in actual fighting war, like we haven't invaded, I, we haven't done anything in how many, what 20, 20 years? Um, I think there is real.

• 47:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Afghanistan.

• 47:41Patrick Bet-David?

  What, Afghan, I mean, come on, I'm talking about combat, full combat. I'm talking about Iraq and invading, that was like when we were, when we were watching the tanks and the Hummers going in. I'm, I'm not a fan, listen, they, I, I'm a fan of women joining and if they could play key roles in like comms or like they could assist in the combat, but ground troops running in on the ground, boots on the ground and war, I, I'm not a fan. Why not? Because what if they do have to get to a, a situation where it is hand to hand combat with another man? What are the, what are the odds, you think the percentage of that guy winning that hand to hand combat? Cause at the end of the day, he just nailed it, there's standards, Pat, you have to pass on all different standards. Every soldier has to have the same qualifications, cause let's be honest, if we're talking about all war breaks out

• 48:25Patrick Bet-David?

  and it's her against another guy, one on one, he's gonna win 95% of the time.

• 48:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Look.

• 48:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm just being honest, so no, I'm not, I'm not for boots on the ground fighting, but any other supporting roles. You know what I mean? Like drones or all that stuff, if she's lethal in that sense, that's fine, but on the ground, I'm, I'm not a fan of it.

• 48:42Tom Ellsworth?

  It's pretty simple to me, men are not women, women are not men, so therefore we are not equal. We are equal under the eyes of the law, we were not equal in stature, we're not equal in size, we are not equal in strength, we are not equal in speed. If we were, go let the women of the WNBA play with the NBA guys, alright? Go let men and women compete the UFC, let me know when Ronda Rousey shows up against Conor McGregor.

• 49:06Patrick Bet-David?

  How she does. Good luck ladies. So in the military, sure, women can be in the military. But not in the roles fighting against men. You know, I had dinner. You've never seen G I Jane with Demi Moore. She's. You've never seen it. I've had. You know, you know, I've had personal interactions with Demi Moore. She is gorgeous.

• 49:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Hello.

• 49:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I would whoop.

• 49:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Whoopie.

• 49:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe, maybe one of the best movies to highlight Demi Moore's greatness. And her God given gifts was the movie called, uh. Indecent Proposal. No, of course. What is the guy's name? Robert Redford. Robert Redford. Frickin movie. Forget it.

• 49:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Who else? What was the other guy?

• 49:46Patrick Bet-David?

  That was Woody Harrelson. I'd give you a million dollars. That's when Sade took off because that's Sade's.

• 49:51Tom Ellsworth?

  How was the movie?

• 49:52Patrick Bet-David?

  That's Sade's song is in the movie. Yeah. Indecent Proposal. So. Ordinary Love. Ordinary Love is. Is no.

• 49:59Tom Ellsworth?

  The way she looked in that movie, she invades my bedroom. I surrender.

• 50:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, you and your horizontal Mambo number five, it's always.

• 50:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Clip it.

• 50:09Patrick Bet-David?

  But I mean, she was gorgeous right here.

• 50:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh.

• 50:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, ain't nobody intimidated by Demi Moore, other than maybe if you're scared to get a girl's number. But, you know, I had dinner with, uh, uh, a girl who serves in the IDF. Do you know in Israel? That every single civilian has to serve two years in the military. I think for men, it's two, for women, it's one. And I said to the girl, I said, well, why is it just one? And for, well, she's telling me, well, we are different than the men. The men are the fighters. We. I was in the air force. I didn't fly the plane. I sat in the back. I did logistics. She's telling me all this stuff.

• 50:46Tom Ellsworth?

  She's in his. She sounds like she was in the movie Rat Tattooed.

• 50:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that too. My French accent is, I was, maybe she was a little French.

• 50:52Tom Ellsworth?

  So it makes them.

• 50:53Patrick Bet-David?

  We are. The point is this, she's saying that men and women.

• 50:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Not the same that she doesn't want to be in combat. None of the women that she knows wants to be in combat. They have different rules.

• 51:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 51:05Tom Ellsworth?

  So why is that different here in America?

• 51:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I love the fact that he's having a conversation. And I love the fact that he didn't back down and get scared. He says, if you meet the standards.

• 51:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 51:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Great, like what you said.

• 51:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Hundred percent.

• 51:14Patrick Bet-David?

  But Tom, I got a question for you. And specifically, I'm coming to you with this one here. I want you to watch this clip by Senator Gary Peters, Democrat, Michigan. I don't know who he is, but by the way, I actually think it's a very good question he's asking.

• 51:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 51:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Because for me, I'm trying to hear questions. Like, you know how it's kind of like, oh, there's nothing on my side that the guy's gonna be. When you're choosing a candidate, you ought to be wanting them to be asking anybody tough questions, right? No matter who it is.

• 51:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 51:42Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a very fair question to ask. Rob, if you can play this clip and on time, I got a question for you. Go for it. That in a large organization. And I'm sorry, but I don't see that in your background. There are a lot of other things you can do very well. You're a capable person. But I'm not, I do not, you have not convinced me that you're able to take on this tremendous responsibility with a complex organization and having little or no significant management experience.

• 52:09Speaker 04

  Senator, I'm grateful to be hired by one of the most successful CEOs in American history. Should I be confirmed?

• 52:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Is that Roger Ailes?

• 52:18Patrick Bet-David?

  What happened? No, no, Rob, this isn't a clip.

• 52:20Tom Ellsworth?

  No, he's talking about the CEOs.

• 52:22Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you can pause it right there. This isn't a clip. But it, but the guy asked a question and he says, Pete, you have not represented more than 100 employees max in your career. And 100 employees, it's not employees. I think it's troops in the military that he had. So you don't have, how do you go from 100, right? And Rob, if you want to listen to it yourself first and then, and then see if this is the one. How do you go from 100 to all of a sudden now leading something like this? That's this massive. So here's the question. Do you think? Which of the two matters most? A Trump who's never been in the military, he's never served in the military,

• 53:06Patrick Bet-David?

  but he's the commander in chief. That phrase commander in chief is a military phrase.

• 53:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 53:12Patrick Bet-David?

  President, maybe it's a political phrase, but commander in chief is a military phrase. What's more important to you? A person who's never served to be the commander in chief? This person's never served, but they've ran a big organization, very successful in business, very successful in, you know, entertainment. And now they're gonna come and run the country, which he's done now twice. Or somebody who has served, but no bigger than hundred, to now get the responsibility of nearly a trillion dollar budget and hundreds of thousands of people now he has to manage. Which one of those two are you more comfortable with? And which one of them are you not comfortable? Maybe you're comfortable with both of them.

• 53:52Tom Ellsworth?

  So, I am more comfortable with, I am very comfortable with Trump as commander in chief because he demonstrates that he's very strategic, he's very decisive. And strategic and decisive, which Jimmy Carter wasn't. And that hurt Jimmy Carter because he was not strategic. He was not decisive, even though he was a decorated, very smart, very smart submarine commander. Nuclear submarine program. So he was in a very complex. But Trump is decisive. He's a negotiator. He's run a large organization. And isn't it interesting, understanding the pitfalls of the large organization? He creates Doge and puts guys in charge of it

• 54:35Tom Ellsworth?

  to go attack the bad part of large organizations. So I am very comfortable in Trump and his role. On the two angles, I'm very comfortable about his strategic side. I think things are happening around the world, like yesterday, the ceasefire, because people fear his decisive and strategic side. And he's run a large organization. I think Pete understands the outcome of the Department of Defense as being part of it. But I, I think it is a fair question. Pete, I think is gonna have to rely on other cabinet members. You know, Secretary of Commerce and people that have run large organizations. And I think that's the purpose of the cabinet and the purpose of his relationship with his boss.

• 55:17Tom Ellsworth?

  And if you don't think Doge is also going to be looking at bad spending at the Department of Defense, you're not paying attention. But I think it's a valid point to be asking, are you ready to run this large organization? I'm more comfortable with Pete there because of who his boss is gonna be and because of the people that will be around him, specifically Doge.

• 55:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I, I think what you're asking is a very important question. You're basically saying, are you more comfortable with a CEO, businessman, entrepreneur, founder, taking over the role of Commander in Chief of the military? Or are you more comfortable with a former military, someone who's never run a company, ascending to a role where he's now the CEO of the military? I'm more comfortable with the first one because leadership is transferable. How often do you see a CEO of a certain company, Uber, then he goes and becomes a CEO of Starbucks? He doesn't know anything about coffee. He was driving cars, but he understands leadership. He understands basically how a company is run. He understands all the different elements of there.

• 56:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, what he's talking about with Pete Hegseth, and I actually think it's a fair question. And I'm quite biased, I'm rooting for Pete, like the guy, rooting for the guy.

• 56:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Everybody should.

• 56:28Patrick Bet-David?

  But he's never run a company. He's never been a CEO. He's never been the, the top of the food chain. When he says, yeah, I had the opportunity to work for somebody, my mind went to, he worked for Roger Ailes. No, he's talking about Donald Trump. So does Pete Hegseth have the knowledge? Does he have the skill set? Does he have all the skills to pay the bills? Yes, but does he have the authority, the leadership? That's what's in question right now. So we're gonna find out. I, I wanna put it in question, bro. 20 years combat veteran, has medals to prove it. And my thing is this. With him and with Trump, I want both of these people to be America first. Pete Hexf is America first. Donald Trump is America first. They're not D I, they're not woke bullshit, they're not trans in the milit-

• 57:13Patrick Bet-David?

  they don't, listen, at the end of the day, guys, we want killers to be in the military. I'm sorry to be so freaking blunt, and we want killers. Everybody else, all these terrorists, Adam, all Hamas, all these China, they have killers. They have people that are ready to fight, and that's what we need. And Pete is a G. His predecessor, Lloyd Austin, did you guys know this? Kind of like a dereliction of duty. He had surgery, he had prostate cancer, I'm happy he's okay. He had prostate cancer, underwent surgery, so from December to like January, a couple of dates, he didn't report it. He basically went MIA, Tom, which is, it's not illegal, but you're breaking protocol. You can't just disappear and then all of a sudden like, oh yeah, by the way, I was having surgery. Okay, so you wanna, if you wanna talk about professionalism and being, stepping up to the job,

• 57:58Patrick Bet-David?

  I think Pete has it, and it's not like he's just standing in there by himself. He's gonna be surrounded by other people that know the job, they're gonna fill him in. I'm completely happy with him and that his boss being Trump. I, I'm, I'm all in. I'm gonna give you a little pushback. Go ahead, push. Because on the surface, I agree with you. I want him to be America first, I want him to love America, I want him to have the skills to pay the bills. I weren't a complete agreement there. But I think where PBD was asking, and I'll give a weird analogy, who, who's the guy that you just had the podcast two days ago? Basketball player. Scottie Pippen. Okay, cool. How many former great professional athletes, NBA players for this example, have gone on, I'm talking about the GOATs, have gone on to become, become awesome coaches in the NBA? Not many.

• 58:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, or awesome GMs, or even owners, I mean, Michael Jordan, that's one of one. So I think what you're getting at is just because you're a good player, just because you can put the ball in the bucket or in the military, just because you're good at it, doesn't make you the guy that- And run a company. This is, I think, what you're asking. Yes or no? For sure. Yeah. So to me, it's Tom, you were gonna say something about this.

• 59:04Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I, I like what-

• 59:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny's commentary. What, do you agree with Vinny?

• 59:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree with Vinny's commentary up to a point. He is gonna be surrounded by great people. He will be recognized by, by, you know, the, I think, you know, the five, the five, uh, I can't even say the word. You know, Army, Air Force-

• 59:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Army, Air Force-

• 59:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Marines and Coast Guard, right? The, the five departments and Department of Defense. I think he's gonna be represented by the men and women serving there and, and highly respected, uh, because of his combat experience. But actually, that's what you want in the Commander in Chief. You want all of them to respect the Commander in Chief, to know that you're not gonna be sent into foolish battle, and he's gonna be strategic about the way he deploys you. But I agree with what you say up to a point, but I think it's a, it's very valid what they're bringing up. But I think if, I was just looking back at the past Secretary of Defense is, you had people that lacked any military experience whatsoever. You had people that were bureaucrats, and had never run large companies. And I think what we're seeing here is the bright lights of inspection

• 1:00:07Tom Ellsworth?

  that the Democrats are choosing to use for this confirmation season that have not been equally applied in other confirmation seasons.

• 1:00:16Patrick Bet-David?

  And Pete, John- I wanna ask PBD a question, because you were in the military, you were in the Army. Uh, first, what was it? What was your division you were in? Hunter Force airborne. Okay, so, I don't think any of us have questioning Pete Hegseth's loyalty, love for America. I think if there is a question is, are you ready for this job? Right? What do you think, Pat? Is he ready for this responsibility? He's never been a CEO. Yeah, so let me, I, I'm doing exactly what Tom's doing. So Rob, if you can go up and look at previous Secretary of Defense. Right now, it's a guy named Lloyd Austin. Yeah. Okay? He served. Yeah. Four star general. Who's a four star general, so think about that, a four star general, right? So then you had David Norquist, okay?

• 1:01:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Who himself was a thirty four United States Deputy Secretary of Defense and Emblem National Defense and then uh what was his background on what he did? Was he a four star general? Was he? Uh what did he do before? Previous to that Department of Defense? Acting Secretary of Defense? I don't know what his background is. If you want to look it up, Tom, David Norquist, okay? Uh and then you have Chris Miller, right? And then you have Mark Esper, okay? Mark Esper, under Trump. Right, under Trump. General Mattis. You have General, well, you go through this and you kind of see a couple of things. In America. You you you see, you see moral authority. And you see somebody who has had high level of managerial leadership opportunities.

• 1:01:47Patrick Bet-David?

  And examples, by the way, nowadays to be a general is you're you're essentially a little bit more politician than you were fifty years ago. It's not what a general used to be years ago. So I don't know. I think it is a valid question to be asking. Uh on the executive side, I thought it was a very good question to ask and you know what's the great thing about that? He gets to go prove himself to the market. Good. And say, I'm actually gonna be a good executive. Great, let's see what he does. But the reality of it is if there's anything he's gonna be reading up on right now, it's not gonna be history of the military. It's gonna be more about leadership and executive like you know, he needs to go read Five Temptations of an Executive by Patrick Lencioni. He needs to go read a lot of Drucker. He needs to go read a lot of Lincoln on Leadership.

• 1:02:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Lincoln on Leadership. He needs to go read a lot of books on managerial. By the way, this one's very interesting. Rob, if you want to play this one here, it's it's a fairly easy, it's fairly short, to the point. And you'll see where he's going with this. Go ahead, Rob. Okay.

• 1:02:44Speaker 00

  Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

• 1:02:48Speaker 00

  Pete, I'm actually gonna ask you questions, because I want to hear your answer. How many genders are there? Tough one.

• 1:02:55Speaker 04

  Senator, there are two genders.

• 1:02:57Speaker 00

  I know that well, I'm a sheehee, so I'm on board.

• 1:03:01Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm a sheehee. His last name is sheehee.

• 1:03:05Speaker 00

  What is the diameter of the rifle round fired out of an M4A1 rifle?

• 1:03:09Speaker 04

  5.56. That's a 5.56.

• 1:03:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:11Speaker 00

  How many pushups can you do?

• 1:03:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Forty-seven.

• 1:03:14Speaker 04

  I did five sets of forty-seven this morning.

• 1:03:19Speaker 00

  What do you think our most important strategic base is in the Pacific?

• 1:03:24Speaker 04

  In the Pacific, Guam is pretty strategically significant.

• 1:03:30Speaker 00

  How many rounds of 5.56 can you fit into the magazine of an M4 rifle?

• 1:03:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Thirty.

• 1:03:34Speaker 04

  Depends on the magazine, but standard issue is thirty.

• 1:03:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's go, Pat!

• 1:03:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Come on, everyone knows that. I could be the second death.

• 1:03:39Speaker 00

  And what size round is the M9 Beretta, standard issue sidearm for the military fire?

• 1:03:44Speaker 04

  A nine millimeter, Senator.

• 1:03:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Who was buried in Grant's tomb?

• 1:03:48Speaker 00

  What kind of batteries do you put in your night vision goggle?

• 1:03:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Lithium.

• 1:03:52Speaker 04

  Duracell?

• 1:03:57Speaker 00

  So right there, you're representing qualifications.

• 1:04:00Tom Ellsworth?

  That's great. Benny, by the way, shout out to you, you knew all the answers. I don't know if you cheated, or...

• 1:04:05Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I didn't cheat.

• 1:04:06Tom Ellsworth?

  This is the stuff you learn in the military?

• 1:04:07Patrick Bet-David?

  He's the Airman of the Year. This is a guy that's a... I can shoot guns, really? Take him to anywhere to shoot. I can shoot. Have you ever seen him shoot? Ah-ha, very good shot. Oh, I mean, we're good. No, no, no, I'm not good. I'm trained, but I'm a trained... I know what I'm doing.

• 1:04:22Tom Ellsworth?

  This guy forgets his gun in half the meetings, and go, Benny, here you go!

• 1:04:25Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you talking about? I'm a killer. Anyway, but at the end of the day, the Secretary of Defense, what's his job? What's his job? He advises the President on military policy, oversees the entire Armed Forces that Tom said, and ensures civilian control of the military and manages defense. If you think about it, veteran experience, leadership, okay, he was an officer at the Veteran Force.

• 1:04:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Foreign wars leader, he understands operations, he knows what he's saying. And here's my question. The Department of Defense, are you guys happy with the state of the Department of Defense? Right now, the way that it is right now. Okay, zero. This is gonna be a breath of fresh air and I can't wait to see. And by the way, Pat, this is a job. You can get fired. Donald Trump could easily, if you're not doing well, you're out.

• 1:05:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Guess what? It's one of the questions on VT news.

• 1:05:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, is it?

• 1:05:10Patrick Bet-David?

  If the people that get the executive jobs, how many of them will not have their job by the end of a hundred days?

• 1:05:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, he loves.

• 1:05:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Zero, one or two, three to four, you have to go there and.

• 1:05:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Before we move on, do you have?

• 1:05:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Thousands have already participated, guys. Go to VT news.ai. You'll see the first hundred days. Go participate. If you think you're good at making predictions, go start with these first fourteen predictions on VT news that AI. Go ahead.

• 1:05:32Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, before we move on, do you have the clip from the Senator from Oklahoma? Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, where he's talking about the drinking, because they were pressing him on drinking. This is a big deal. And Tim Kaine's, Tim Kaine's. Tim Kaine, no lips. Okay. So if you find that, I'll basically say this, he goes, um, so you drink alcohol, right? He's like, yeah, I've had a drink or two. Uh, have you ever showed up to work drunk? He's like, what are you doing right now? Like, I've had a drink or two. Here, watch this.

• 1:05:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, is it?

• 1:05:58Tom Ellsworth?

  The hypocrisy is hilarious.

• 1:06:01Speaker 00

  Because I Googled it and I Googled it and went through a lot of different sites and really it's hard to see. But in general, the US Secretary of Defense position is filled by a civilian.

• 1:06:11Speaker 00

  That's it.

• 1:06:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Is this the alcohol part?

• 1:06:12Speaker 00

  If you have served in the US Army Forces.

• 1:06:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Basically.

• 1:06:16Speaker 00

  Service for, I guess. Your job.

• 1:06:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, back up, back up five seconds.

• 1:06:21Speaker 00

  The Senator from Virginia starts bringing up the fact that what if you showed up drunk to your job?

• 1:06:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Here it is.

• 1:06:26Speaker 00

  How many senators have showed up drunk to vote at night?

• 1:06:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Tim Kaine. By the way, the room starts laughing.

• 1:06:33Speaker 00

  You guys asked them to step down and resign from their job? And don't tell me you haven't seen it because I know you have. And then how many senators do you know have got a divorce before cheating on their wives?

• 1:06:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Ooh.

• 1:06:45Speaker 00

  Did you ask them to step down? No. But it's for show. You guys make sure you make a big show and point out the hypocrisy because a man's made a mistake. And you want to sit there and say that he's not qualified? Give me a joke. It is so ridiculous that you guys hold yourself at this higher standard and you forget you got a big plank in your eye. We've all made mistakes. I've made mistakes. And Jennifer, thank you for loving him through that mistake. Wow. Because the only reason why I'm here and not in prison is because my wife loved me too. Wow.

• 1:07:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow. Senator, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. By the way, shout out to you, calling out the hypocrisy from Congress, grilling him on his personal life. Yep, and shout out to Tim Kaine. Not how qualified he is. Tim Kaine's hair, did you see Tim Kaine's hair? It's falling apart. Not on how qualified he is, not that he deserves the job. What does your personal life look like? And he asked him, how many of you motherfuckers have shown up drunk to work? Yeah. Because if that's the answer, you would all lose a job. I didn't want you to, I didn't want you to look at Tim, Tim Kaine is the, like, who, who was, um? He ran with Hillary, we all know that. I know, but who, who was, uh, what's her name's, uh, Vice President? Tim Walz? That's the two, uh, Tim Walz, back in the day, by the way, he combs his hair with the same balloon that Bernie Sanders combs his hair with. That's the same balloon.

• 1:08:02Tom Ellsworth?

  You're making the same mistake that he made, is that you're going personal attacks. I'm not personal, it's a balloon haircut. And looking at the job. Go ahead, Tom. The point is, this guy, Mark Wayne Mullen, made a great point. He did. That if you guys are all judged on drinking, you'd all be fired. Adam, give me a joke, give me a joke. You know what, Vinny, you give me a joke, you're supposed to be the comedian. This has been said a couple times, and I think-

• 1:08:21Patrick Bet-David?

  He sounds Middle Eastern, when he said, give me a-

• 1:08:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Give me a joke. What is this, my friend, my friend, give me a joke. They are much more careful than ever, and they, all of these folks know that they're on TV, they're on, they're being covered on all the major networks. But previously, when it was just CNET and not all committees were there, there were multiple times where people would, would say, you're badgering the witness about something that if we were all tested, we don't have enough people to come in here and have a committee. Yeah, that's true. And they're saying the same thing, right?

• 1:08:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, good for him for doing that.

• 1:08:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree. Shout out to Mark Wayne Mullen.

• 1:08:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I like that. I like what he's saying right there. Okay, let's go to the next story. Bill Burr, folks. Do you have this clip, Rob? Eviscerates effin idiot internet trolls who say the LA wildfires were mismanaged. Okay, he is on, uh, would show, with Jimmy Kimmel.

• 1:09:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, I'm glad he has his name tag on the, on, in case we used to get it. So, and, and go ahead, Rob, play this clip with Bill Burr.

• 1:09:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Liberal.

• 1:09:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Come on.

• 1:09:21Speaker 04

  I heard you had to evacuate your home.

• 1:09:24Speaker 03

  Yes, yes, like most people I had to, I got lucky, you know, the winds moved, but uh, you know, the fire was coming and all that stuff, so I feel lucky.

• 1:09:33Speaker 04

  Are you guys back?

• 1:09:33Speaker 03

  And I think everybody did a great job.

• 1:09:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Great job.

• 1:09:36Speaker 03

  I'm like the internet, you know?

• 1:09:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, right, I know, right?

• 1:09:39Speaker 03

  Oh my god, all of these fire experts. Why didn't you just fly a helicopter into the ocean? And then just ****, I don't know, because it was 100 knot winds? You want to do that? You want to do that at night, you **** lunatic?

• 1:09:55Speaker 04

  How are you?

• 1:09:55Speaker 03

  This was definitely mismanaged.

• 1:09:58Speaker 04

  That's a big word we're hearing now.

• 1:10:00Speaker 03

  Mismanaged, like some **** idiot on the internet knows how to manage the worst fire in LA, sitting there in his underwear. You know what? Looking at the footage on the internet, I have determined that this here was mismanaged.

• 1:10:14Speaker 01

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• 1:10:30Speaker 02

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• 1:10:56Speaker 04

  Vinny. Well, first of all, this is from a guy that openly says he doesn't read, and you can obviously see why, like, first of all, beyond ridiculous, does anybody out there, you guys, our audience, anybody believe that they did a great job on what they're doing? This dude is completely out of touch, okay? He also- Uh, there's another clip, Robbie. I'll just say it. He criticized CNN on the same, uh, on the same pa- uh, episode. That the healthcare industry, uh, the United Healthcare CEO's assassination, and he supported the accused Luigi Magione. He goes, "Free Luigi," because he's comparing him to insurance practices. Oh yeah, that's, that's who he is. But, okay, so they did a great job. Let's go over the facts, uh, Bill. 1,200 structures, uh, destroyed.

• 1:11:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Thousand.

• 1:11:41Speaker 04

  Tw- 12,000, I'm sorry. Uh, 25 lives lost, 40,000 acres burned, and they're still burning, and there's more fires being set. As we speak, I saw one last night, uh, a couple, they ca- got another guy for starting another fire, and that's a great job. I mean, how much more would have to have been destroyed for you to say it was a failure, okay? And your house didn't burn down, Bill. He's sin- he's, he's excited. Yeah, my house didn't, and that's why you're gonna start criticizing and talking shit. And nobody is blaming the firefighters, okay? They're heroes, okay? They're out here risking their lives with inadequate resources. The governor's full of shit. Everybody knows he's full of shit, no matter how much he tries to fact-check and be his thing. We just fact-checked him, uh, right here, but that's not the point. The issue is years, years of poor decisions,

• 1:12:25Speaker 04

  mismanagement, and the neglect that set the stage, uh, for disaster. And let's, let's, let's go back to who Bill Burr really is. During the pandemic, he criticized those, I don't know if you have, Rob, do you have those where he criticized, um, anyone who opposed masks? And, um, vaccines. This guy, in 2021, he criticized anybody refusing, and he said, um, "It's so effing dumb." This, "I don't trust it. You're all full of shit and you don't trust it," highlighting everybody's reasoning. This is, this is, uh, who Bill Burr is. And then in 2020 on Rogan, he defended wearing masks. Uh, when Rogan, uh, questioned the necessity, he responded, "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you all with no medical degrees, acting like we know what's, uh, better than the CDC."

• 1:13:10Speaker 04

  Okay, this guy's probably quadruple vax and has taken every vaccine. And then in 2021, he criticized, uh, DeSantis for banning mask mandates in the state, referring to such politicians as effing pieces of you-know-what. And then I tried to realize it, like, how does somebody who's, to me, one of the top 10 comedians of all time, wh- where's the shift? Where does this, you believe in the internet and to say that it was a great job, then I realized, think about the household. His wi- you guys remember his wife? near Renee Hill. She was at a UFC uh match. She got great seats because of probably Dana White and the Joe Rogan uh relationship. She's sitting behind the President of the United States who's very close with uh Donald Trump and she's flipping the bird.

• 1:13:53Speaker 04

  Look at, look at Bill Burr's face and look at her flipping the bird. And then in my head time, I'm like, what? What would make somebody have this much hate? Emerson College, she went to Emerson. What, what kind of school is Emerson?

• 1:14:03Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a very liberal college.

• 1:14:05Speaker 04

  Oh, okay. So it's one of those. Okay. And then back in 2018, she got upset for being mistaking the internet that he's talking about. Uh, for mistaking her for Regina King and she called it a racial stereotyping. She blamed white media creators for not being able to tell black people apart. Uh, but here's the kicker. You're married to a white guy. Okay. It's like the Don Lemon thing. They always preach that white people are evil and that they're the biggest problems, but you're all married to white people. So was Don Lemon.

• 1:14:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Don Lemon is married to a white guy.

• 1:14:36Speaker 04

  A white man, but white people are the problem.

• 1:14:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Lemon's gay?

• 1:14:39Speaker 04

  Yeah. But it just

• 1:14:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Get out of here.

• 1:14:41Speaker 04

  It just

• 1:14:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Andy's good at it.

• 1:14:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, it just goes to show you how out of touch somebody like Bill Burr is. And I don't care what people say about his comedy. He's brilliant, but to say some dumb shit like that, I not only disagree with it. I, I hope like whoever's in his ear, and I think we know who it is, you need to get out of that woke mind virus shit because it's not working.

• 1:15:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, Vinny, I'm, you know, with everything, there's nuance. Some things you say that are right, some things you say that are wrong. Let me just address the biggest incorrect statement you said. Are you ready for it?

• 1:15:12Speaker 04

  What?

• 1:15:13Tom Ellsworth?

  You came out there and you said the following. Bill Burr, one of the top 10 comedians of all time. I almost lost my mind.

• 1:15:20Speaker 04

  You don't think he's in the top 10?

• 1:15:21Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think this guy's in the top 100.

• 1:15:23Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:15:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Is he a good comedian? Has he had a good career? Stop it.

• 1:15:28Speaker 04

  No, he's in the top 10.

• 1:15:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay. Stop it.

• 1:15:31Speaker 04

  You don't

• 1:15:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Let, let, let's let the audience

• 1:15:33Speaker 04

  Okay, oh, I'll, can we make a bet though really fast?

• 1:15:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Top 10 all time?

• 1:15:37Speaker 04

  Hold on, hold on.

• 1:15:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Are you kidding me?

• 1:15:39Speaker 04

  Can we do this bet? If he's, if our audience goes, what would you say? 75% or higher, the best, uh, top 10? If he's in the top 10, $100.

• 1:15:48Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not gonna bet this just because-

• 1:15:49Speaker 04

  I'm just saying, let's do the bet. He's in the top 10.

• 1:15:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Just because sometimes our audience will say that-

• 1:15:54Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no.

• 1:15:54Tom Ellsworth?

  98% chance we didn't land on the moon.

• 1:15:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Who knows? Comedian of all time.

• 1:15:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Bill Burr, in my opinion, is nowhere near the top 10.

• 1:16:00Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:16:00Tom Ellsworth?

  He ain't Chappelle, he ain't Chris Rock, he ain't Jerry Seinfeld. He ain't close.

• 1:16:04Speaker 04

  He's up there.

• 1:16:05Tom Ellsworth?

  However, we do know that he's married to a liberal black woman who's flipping the bird to Donald Trump. Okay, all good. But by the way, let's figure out if, um, you know who's gonna have the deciding vote?

• 1:16:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You were about to make a quick hundred dollars.

• 1:16:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't need the money. I just wanna make the state the fact-

• 1:16:24Speaker 04

  Let it go, let it go.

• 1:16:24Tom Ellsworth?

  That Bill Burr ain't that dude. He ain't that dude. I'll give him a shout out for being a white comedian who hasn't been canceled.

• 1:16:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Two minutes on this. Tell me about California and what he said.

• 1:16:31Tom Ellsworth?

  But what I will say is, great, since when are we listening to a comedian's opinion on anything with the, with the, with the fire? Who cares? But speaking of celebrities, whose houses have burned down? Mel Gibson, James Woods, Paris Hilton, uh, Billy Crystal, John Goodman, Miles Teller, Anthony Hopkins. Let's, they're gonna get a say here. Let's let them have a say. You know who else is gonna have a say in this? The tens of thousands of people whose houses have burned down and the hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions of people, whose lives are gonna be completely uprooted. They're gonna have a say and they're gonna have a vote in the upcoming election, whether Gavin Newsom, whether Karen Bass, whether any of these people should retain their positions.

• 1:17:10Tom Ellsworth?

  My speculation is if they're not drinking the water that was just burnt down and, and having weird stuff in their water, these people are gonna be looking for new jobs. That's my- So, um, I think it's really easy as a comedian to just get invited on a show and go on a riff. It's very hard to, um, and, and that's, that's an opinion and you can just spout off all you want. It's very hard to face facts and go on a riff like that. And so he's throwing his opinion out there, he's dropping the profanity in there. Oh, would you fly a helicopter and you do that? And so I, I just put very little in it. And he's been given a stage by liberal publicist Jimmy Kimmel that I can't even call him,

• 1:17:52Tom Ellsworth?

  in my opinion, a talk show host or a comedian in his own right because he's become a political pundit and a PR mouthpiece for all that he believes in and has become really difficult to watch. Not my opinion, the opinion of many peers, including those who are signing his paycheck inside of a large office building. And so I just put very little stock in this. And, you know, I will say this, I'll go, I will agree with Adam, write that down. Agree with Adam, when you go down the list, the Pantheon, the Hall of Fame, and you go Lenny Bruce, Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Robin Williams, Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld, Dave Chappelle, and others, Freddie Prince, I think was a genius and gone too soon, you know, and the spaceman, the man in the mirror, right? Thank you very much.

• 1:18:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Andy Kaufman.

• 1:18:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Andy Kaufman, of course. Improvisational guy. I'm up to 11 and this guy's not even there and I'm not-

• 1:18:43Patrick Bet-David?

  And Tom's not even funny, Benny.

• 1:18:45Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not a connoisseur of comedy, right? I just think, you know, Bill just needs to save it, you know, there's-

• 1:18:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Benny, I'm questioning your judgment.

• 1:18:53Tom Ellsworth?

  He's not looking at the facts.

• 1:18:54Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, let me tell you guys- But you think he-

• 1:18:57Tom Ellsworth?

  But you know what? I'll tell you what I'll defend. I'll defend his right to say what he said, but then I'll defend my right to just say what I just said and go analyze it.

• 1:19:07Patrick Bet-David?

  If his house burnt down, I guarantee you'd be singing a different tune.

• 1:19:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct.

• 1:19:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, when I say, Tom, let's let the boss have a say here before you get a pow pow. We don't need that. You think Bill Burr's a top 10 comedian? You think what he said was right? Give your speculation. This is gonna sound weird, guys. I've listened to, if I tell you top 10 comedians I've listened to the most, Bill Burr is in my top five of listening to. But I'm not, like, I've never- So you haven't listened to many, is what you're saying? I found that Lenny Bruce is Rogan's favorite comedian. I've never listened to Lenny Bruce. Sickest gift you- Given to Lenny, well, Lenny, this was in the 1950s. Yeah, I know, but what I'm saying to you is, I'm not in this world to know. You ask me different sports that I've followed? I could tell you. You ask me, every clip of every time Bill Burr was on Conan O'Brien, how many times have I watched each one of the 15 clips? It's 100 plus times.

• 1:19:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. I can, like Hillary, you know, she dressed like a real estate agent. You look at her, you know, I'm just kind of glad, you know? He came out and when it won, you know, we thought this was such a big thing, you know, the hockey thing when we won. This is like, you know, with the Gibson homerun, like he, the stuff he does is, he's very good. And I'm, since you're a sports player, it's like saying that Rex Chapman is one of the top 10 basketball players of all time. Philadelphia, when he got up there and does a Philadelphia, was it Philadelphia? Yeah, Philadelphia. Fly by for 20 minutes. Dude, I've watched that thing 100 times. I hope your mother's, like the stuff that he does, you like this guy. However, I'm not, I'm not having that debate. That's not in my priority in my life. And I'm a comedian, Adam, so I'm on a different lens. Let me just make my point and let's get moving on. Honestly, we got a few stories I want to get into. This is not that important.

• 1:20:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I love that he knows the playbook to go out there and say something that nobody else is saying and everybody else reacts. And he gets 100 million views. Good for him. Okay? Now, all the other stuff with California, to say that the other people can't say anything, the helicopter, why you go fly the helicopter? What are you talking about? That's the job of the guy that if crisis happens, he's supposed to go out there and save people's lives. Don't take the damn job. What do you mean you go fly the helicopter? No, the other people that don't do it, they don't want that job. That's the point. I don't want that job. I don't want to be that person. The other person's taking that job. So, no. I fully disagree on what he's talking about. There are the people that are in it that are being directly impacted,

• 1:21:19Patrick Bet-David?

  who have the highest moral authority of giving feedback of what happened. When you think about the state of California, you had a reservoir called the Santa Inez Reservoir, 117 million gallons of water in it that's been empty since February of last year due to a hole on the cover because of bird poop they were worried about that they couldn't fix that quickly. That Michael Schlemberger that's being on Tucker Carlson is saying, we asked other people that are running other reservoirs, saying if the reservoir is empty for Or a week or two, we panic. We fill it up ASAP. And you mean to tell me as a governor in the state of California that has access to 1300 reservoirs? That's how many reservoirs California has.

• 1:22:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't you think as a governor of a state that you know the biggest crisis that happens in your state? Is either earthquakes or fires, generally more fire than earthquakes? Don't you think you would have a chart on the wall to be looking at how your reservoirs are doing specifically in Palisades? Your celebrity Hollywood actors that invite you to dinners? Are the ones that are going to be directly impacted by this and you have a reservoir that's been empty for almost a year? And you're not watching this? You don't need a MBA or a bachelor's or a master's in water and fire to understand that that's a dumb move.

• 1:22:35Patrick Bet-David?

  That's dumb. And that's called horrible leadership. By the man running that state. This is why so many people are reaching out to me right now. About getting behind somebody for California for a governor? And wanting to find ways to get this guy to resign or do a recall. Yesterday, we looked at the. Lieutenant General. Of the state of California. So if he resigns. His same exact person is going to get in there. Lieutenant General is this lady called Lena Konalakis. So resigning is actually not the solution. It's recalling and getting somebody else in there. And getting people that are willing to go out there and give a message in California that are. Able to sell and evangelize and others getting behind it. There's going to be a lot of stuff happening right now in California, folks.

• 1:23:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Stay tuned. You're going to see some major things taking place in California. People. Pushing for a recall. This was a travesty. This was tragic. And no. You don't need. Education to look at these things and do a little bit of research and say. None of this makes any sense. It just doesn't. It comes down to leadership. So, but anyways, will I still listen to his comedy? 100%. 100%. Funny as hell. Old clips of his. Okay, TikTok, Tom, I'm coming to you with this one. TikTok responds. To rumors China wants to ask Musk to buy the platform. Pure fiction. Rob, is that a video clip that we have or is that just a story? Because it says yellow.

• 1:23:57Tom Ellsworth?

  I have an old video clip, but this is Elon Musk being asked about TikTok and the potential ban and his.

• 1:24:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I'd love to see it. Yeah, go for it.

• 1:24:06Speaker 01

  I can't say I have a strong opinion on TikTok. So you have a.

• 1:24:10Speaker 04

  Whether it should be banned or not.

• 1:24:13Speaker 04

  You know, I'm generally against banning things.

• 1:24:19Speaker 04

  So I would probably not be in favor. I mean, it would help Twitter, I suppose, if TikTok was banned. Because then people would spend more time on Twitter and less time on TikTok. But even though that would be, even if it would help Twitter, I would be generally against banning of.

• 1:24:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Very honest answer. Okay, very honest answer on what he's saying there. But let me read this story to you guys, folks, on what's going on here because TikTok dismissed rumors, reports by Bloomberg that Chinese officials were exploring having Elon Musk acquire the US operations to prevent a ban. Under protecting Americans from a foreign adversary-controlled application app, TikTok stated to Fox Business, "We can't be expected to comment on pure fiction," is what he said. Okay. Then there's another one coming up here from Forbes, talking about the fact, and also Reuters, "TikTok preparing for US Sunday shutdown." Sources all tell Reuters TikTok plans to shut it up, shut its app up in US for users on Sunday when a federal ban on the social media app could come into effect.

• 1:25:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Unless the Supreme Court moves to block it, the outcome of the shutdown would be different from the mandated by the law. The law would mandate a ban only on new TikTok downloads on Apple and Google Apple stores. While existing users could continue to use it for some time, under TikTok's plan, people attempting to open the app will see a pop-up message directing them to a website. "What information about the ban?" the sources said. "Requesting anonymity is the matter is not public." The company also plans to give users an option to download all their data so that they can take a record for their personal information, they said.

• 1:26:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Privately held by, it answers about 60% owned by institutional investors such as BlackRock, General, Atlantic, and while its founders and employees own 20%. It has more than 7,000 employees in the US town.

• 1:26:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you just you just covered it there. And so inside all of that you just read absolutely correct. So is tip Tik Tok going off the air on the 19th? No. Is the 19th an important deadline? Yes, that means on the 19th, no new users will be able to download it for the first time because it'll be suppressed from the app stores. So it'll be out of the app stores for Google and for iOS, Apple on starting on the 19th, unless there's an intervention, which there's not going to be right now because the Supreme Court says, no, we're not, we're not going to mess with that. So whereas of right now, they come down. What that mean? If you have Tik Tok, you could keep using it for some time. What is that? Well, that's this interim period there where they have to sort

• 1:26:55Tom Ellsworth?

  out ownership of US assets. However, 24 hours later, I believe you're going to see a stroke of the pen and one of the 100 executive orders from Donald Trump is just going to say something very simple. He can't repeal the law that was heading in front of the Supreme Court in the executive order. But you know what he could do? He could basically sign an executive order that says, hey, wait a second. Let's take a little more time to look at this or let's do this. Or he could sign an executive order saying, I'm asking for a moratorium on the law while the ownership is sorted out. And they'll say, well, wait a minute. That's what the deadline of January

• 1:27:37Tom Ellsworth?

  19th was. We were giving them time to sort it out and they didn't do it. So I think that's what you're you're going to see. I think Trump's going to intervene executive order. But I believe, as I predicted, that ultimately, now we got to be careful here, the US assets will go to Musk. I believe Musk is going to put together the deal to pick up Tik Tok in the United States. Why? Because then if I'm Musk, this is what I would do. I would say on ad sales, I would move the ad rates and Ford Motor Company comes up, says, hey, we want to advertise our small EVs and some other things on Tik Tok to people. Great. 70% of your ad buy can be Tik Tok, but we'd like

• 1:28:19Tom Ellsworth?

  25% of the ad buy to be Twitter. X. Oh, yeah. And and the rates have just gone up. Yeah. If you have another social media that's similar that you'd like to go spend money there, do it. But my my rates just went up. And I think that's that's normal capitalist response because that would be that would help X and that would help that. But here's the part to remember. Nobody is talking about the grill in the room, which is the algorithm. And does the data leave the US and end up on servers that are inspected and otherwise controlled or accessed by the CCP?

• 1:28:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Great.

• 1:28:59Tom Ellsworth?

  That is the question that everyone's asking, saying, okay, what if Elon Musk gets the US assets? What about the algorithm that they're using? And does he get that so we can make sure that we know what's going on? And what about all the data? Are we gonna close any backdoors where CCP, ByteDance, can get their hands on the data for long-term surveillance, long-term database of US customers, or, you know, their own ad redirecting? So, don't know. What do you think when you say all this?

• 1:29:32Patrick Bet-David?

  With, specific to TikTok, I mean, look, a part of me thinks, I hope the ban happens on Sunday. And let me explain to you why. Not for the reasons you think. If it happens on Sunday, here's what it means strategically. How many people will be flipping out? And who will be flipping out if TikTok is banned on Sunday? Think about age, category, and demo. Who will be pissed on Sunday? Teenagers and college kids. What age?

• 1:30:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Gen Z, you know, 15 to...

• 1:30:04Patrick Bet-David?

  18, oh, 15, yeah. How addicted are they to TikTok? Ridiculous. How important is TikTok to them? How a big part of their lives is TikTok?

• 1:30:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Huge.

• 1:30:14Tom Ellsworth?

  I would argue that their lives have been dramatically altered and ruined because of TikTok.

• 1:30:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me sex, give me sex, gender specifically, male or female?

• 1:30:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Girls.

• 1:30:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I would say 65% female. Female, then male. Okay, so check this out. So imagine 19th, who's the president?

• 1:30:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Donald Trump.

• 1:30:29Patrick Bet-David?

  20th, who's the president?

• 1:30:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Donald Trump.

• 1:30:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So, in the history books, if Joe Biden wants to take credit, the fact that Hamas is releasing the hostages and saying, oh, because of me, they're afraid of me. Okay, so guess what? You're the one that shut down TikTok, and then Trump will be the one that opens up TikTok. Imagine that younger generation, they're gonna sit there and be like, dude, listen, this guy at least allows that. So, in a strategic standpoint, I think it helps. On the Trump side, just like the same way, you know, Elon said, you know, Twitter, TikTok, it helps Twitter, right? So Biden is over here talking about the fact that hostages is because of him. And then they came back and said, no, it's not really because of him. Trump's the one that asking him to stop and all this other stuff. I think that's that part of it.

• 1:31:13Patrick Bet-David?

  The other part is, I think TikTok's gonna be around for the people that are worried about TikTok. They have nothing to worry about. I would like it not to be, not to have anything to do with Biden, not to have anything to do with China, zero. I want nothing to do with them. I want somebody here to own, and I would like somebody to own it that is not a monopoly. Because if, if Zuck, and this is the, behind closed doors, if you think about how Elon is making this argument to Trump, here's how Elon's making the argument to Trump to allow Elon to own TikTok. You ready? What does Zuck own?

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• 1:32:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Facebook Meta. And what did he buy? Instagram. Okay. And what's up? Is Instagram more comparable to TikTok or Twitter?

• 1:32:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Is more like Tik Tok.

• 1:32:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Tik Tok and is Facebook more like Twitter or Tik Tok? Facebook is closer to Twitter.

• 1:33:00Tom Ellsworth?

  To X, yeah.

• 1:33:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so guess what? So he's like dude, he owns Facebook and he owns Instagram. Well, listen, if I own X, you really want to protect the long term? Let me also own Tik Tok. It's a good argument. It's actually a good argument for Trump to be like, yeah, well, Zuck owns those two. So it's either break all of them apart. And a person can only own one of them to have a monopoly law get in place. Or if you're gonna ask, if you're gonna allow him to own both, you may as well allow Elon to own Tik Tok. I think somebody else should own Tik Tok if you ask me. I would like to have other people own Tik Tok. And I would like to have somebody else own Instagram, not have both of them be under Zuck. Just my opinion.

• 1:33:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Here Mr. Beast was made a video on X and he was trying to say he wants to get a couple of billionaires together to purchase it, which would be freaking wild.

• 1:33:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I saw that. Yeah, I saw that. And I'd like competition. I'd like competition to see who wants to buy it.

• 1:33:52Tom Ellsworth?

  What I would not like to see is Elon Musk buy Tik Tok. If you haven't noticed this, you know, oligarchy of technocracy and these technocrats. Where what a handful of people just are gonna run our country, the Mark Zuckerberg's of the world, Elon Musk of the world. I'd like to avoid that. If there's a third person that can come in that could buy Tik Tok. Alright, I'm willing to see that conversation. So just what is it gonna be the Elon Musk versus Jeff Bezos versus Mark Zuckerberg next 40 years? I'd like to avoid that. Maybe there's a different person to come here, but you said that you'd like to see Tik Tok get shut down Sunday. I would like to do that. There's not a lot of things that I'm not sort of moderate about. I'm pretty reasonable, moderate person. Maybe I'll do this, maybe I'll do this.

• 1:34:38Tom Ellsworth?

  On Tik Tok, I'm more in the camp of absolutist. I haven't heard any compelling, good reasons that we should keep Tik Tok in this country. There's a little bit of reasons. I haven't heard much other than we believe in free speech. Yeah, in America, we believe in free speech. This is a Chinese owned company. Nobody's objecting to that. How many social media companies that are owned by American companies are allowed in China? None.

• 1:35:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Zero.

• 1:35:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Tik Tok, YouTube, Facebook, Snapchat, none of it, none of it, none of it, none of it. So why are we even talking about banning Tik Tok? Why are we even talking about it? You know, remember when the Tik Tok CEO went and testified in front of Congress?

• 1:35:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm a Singaporean.

• 1:35:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Shoo Choo and he's like, I never, I don't even know. What about China? What are we talking about China? Come on, buddy. Come on, buddy. So when they have, like, think about the most famous congressional hearings of all time. When there's smoke, there's fire. Watergate. Yeah, it turned out that Nixon knew what he was doing. The 9/11 hearings. Turns out there was something going on there. The Iran contra affair. We know this building. We know some stuff that's going on there. The college protests. When the university presidents don't, oh, there's anti-Semitism. Where? I don't see it. What are we talking about here? So when the Facebook hearings, when Mark Zuckerberg had this testify, there's valid reasons for why they're having these congressional hearings.

• 1:36:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Why we're talking about banning TikTok is because it should be banned.

• 1:36:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Right. As long as it's not linked to China, I think we can keep it here.

• 1:36:11Tom Ellsworth?

  But it is gonna be linked to China.

• 1:36:13Patrick Bet-David?

  If it's not, I'm okay. If it is, I have a very big problem. And if I'm Trump's advisor, I am using these next four years with leverage to say, if you want ByteDance to own TikTok and be here, you have to let Zuck, Twitter, YouTube, everybody enter into China.

• 1:36:33Tom Ellsworth?

  They're never gonna do that.

• 1:36:34Patrick Bet-David?

  But then guess why are we doing it?

• 1:36:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly.

• 1:36:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And if there's anybody that can negotiate to get that done, it's who? There you go. Art of the deal.

• 1:36:40Tom Ellsworth?

  What do you think is the biggest concern when it comes to TikTok? Is it the data? Is it the national security? Is it the data privacy?

• 1:36:46Patrick Bet-David?

  The shaping of the young people's mindset is number one. It's more than anything else.

• 1:36:51Tom Ellsworth?

  The algorithm.

• 1:36:51Patrick Bet-David?

  For you to destroy the minds of the youth is the way you destroy the future of a country. And that's the number one. It's not even close.

• 1:37:00Tom Ellsworth?

  So beyond national security, it's shaping and influencing public opinion, rotting the minds of the kids.

• 1:37:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I'd like to get to the next story. I'd like to get to the next story.

• 1:37:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Point is, it should be banned.

• 1:37:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Okay. Next story here that we want to go to is, uh, um, let's go to this one here.

• 1:37:18Patrick Bet-David?

  GOP tax leaders, US small business could pay more tax than small businesses do in China if Trump cuts expire? Small business, at the same time, that story flips with small business optimism surged to a six-year high based on Trump policies. So Rob, if you want to play that clip, is that the clip that explains what's going on here with the small businesses? Yes, regarding the Trump tax cuts and why they need to be made permanent. Okay, go for it. Go ahead. Americans are demanding we restore prosperity.

• 1:37:48Speaker 03

  and build upon the success of President Trump's economic policies that gave the American people the best economy in my lifetime. However, that effort is at risk if we do not make the 2017 tax cuts permanent. If Congress fails to act, the average family of four will end up paying the equivalent of nine weeks of groceries in higher taxes. After four years of sticker shock at the grocery store, that's the last thing families need.

• 1:38:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Who was that lady speaking?

• 1:38:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so now, uh, this guy who's talking about the tax cuts, okay? So, let me read this to you. House Republicans, uh, uh, Jason Smith, talking about the 2017 tax cut, 20 small business owners will be hit with a 43.4% top tax rate, more than 20 points higher than what business pays in Communist China. Okay? Representative Jody Arrington criticized potential increases, asking what's pro-American about this? And then they continue to explain the fact that according to, uh, reports from Ernst & Young, 25.9 million small businesses in the US currently utilize a deduction which provides tax relief for qualified business expenses. Tom, thoughts on the story?

• 1:39:09Tom Ellsworth?

  This is why small business people were at the polls. This is exactly what they feared.

• 1:39:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Under Kamala Harris, we would have had higher taxes than in Communist China. So, under a quasi-Marxist that we almost elected, this is, this is what was sitting in the balance, America. This was hanging in the balance. She was gonna let this expire. That was the plan. And now they're pointing out that, hey, Trump, thank goodness you're here, because we need you to extend the cuts that you had had before. Not just cuts, the tax policy that was, that was growth-oriented, sensible, and in my opinion, very fair tax policy. And they're pointing out, they're ringing the bell right now, and what they're ringing the bell about- And God bless Jason Smith from Missouri, you know, Republican from Missouri and Jody

• 1:40:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Arrington, Republican from Texas. They're ringing the bell and what they're saying is, "Hey, man, in the middle of inauguration, in the middle of getting all these people confirmed, in the middle of all the the stuff going on, don't forget my constituents, we have to stand for the small business owners that voted on November 4th and we have to make these tax cuts permanent because they voted for it and it's going to help the businesses, help the economy, help what's going on." Do you hear what he said? He was very clear. The qualified business expenses, being able to deduct expenses as a business, it jumps up and the it is equivalent to nine weeks of groceries. That's how big of a tax cut. And Kamala Harris and the Dems are going to say, "We didn't raise taxes. Oh, those were

• 1:40:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Trump's and they just expired." No, their expiration was your increase. It was your premeditated increase. That's what you wanted. And thank goodness, the small business optimism is up. You want to know why it's up? Because they are optimistic about the economic dynamic that's going to be put in front of them. And what is that? Hey, the tax cuts you've been operating under through COVID you operated under, before Trump, you know, but the Trump's first administration operated under, and all of this, they're going to be safe and you're going to be able to continue and grow and expand your business, even after this time of inflation, even with interest rates not back down. This is a very, very big deal.

• 1:41:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Can you see, Vinnie? "Oh, I didn't raise your taxes. I just let the thing expire." That's political spin. That's that's like Newsom speak. How would you feel if you're a small business guy?

• 1:41:36Speaker 04

  I'd be furious. After I voted for it and they and they

• 1:41:39Tom Ellsworth?

  After your angry wife convinced you to vote for Kamala and then this is what happens to the business and you got to walk into the kitchen and say, "Hey, honey, look!"

• 1:41:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:41:49Tom Ellsworth?

  I'd be over. It would be you, the, the. I'd start drinking again. I'd start drinking again. You'd be the angry husband. You're damn right. And then she'd be the, oh, my guy won, and she'd be the angry. Yeah, I'd be furious.

• 1:42:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, the good, the good news is, small business owners are happy about the fact that, you know, Trump's getting in there for the policies, which means optimism is higher. And I think that's a good thing. Let's go to the next story. Michelle Obama to skip Trump inauguration. CNN story. So Michelle Obama, First Lady Barack Obama, wasn't at Jimmy Carter's funeral when him and, Trump were speaking, if you're not him, Michelle, when Obama, and when Barack and Trump were speaking, Michelle wasn't sitting there. And now we're hearing about the fact that Michelle Obama is also not going to be at the inauguration, and there's a lot of different theories. Why is she not coming? Michelle Obama will not attend it. Inauguration, breaking with the tradition of former First Ladies participating in the ceremony.

• 1:42:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Her office stated, former President Barack Obama has confirmed to attend the six day inaugural ceremonies. Former First Lady Michelle Obama will not be attending inauguration without providing further explanation. Michelle Obama has previously expressed animosity towards Trump, accusing him of endangering her family through his rhetoric, reflecting on attending Trump's 2017 inauguration. She said, in a 2023 podcast, there were tears. There was that emotion, but then to sit on that stage and watch the opposite of what we represented on display, there was no diversity, there was no color on that stage, there was no reflection of the broader sense of America on that stage. Vinnie, I'll come to you first. What do you think's going on here with Michelle Obama not attending? Let's give serious commentary.

• 1:43:29Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm being, I'm being dead. Well, first and foremost, your husband was the President of the United States for eight years. And again, we're the most racist, this is the worst country ever. I just, I think, I think personally, it's something deeper. Let's not forget. Well, first of all, she doesn't show up to the funeral, that has nothing to do with Trump. This is the funeral of a past president. It's, you, you have to go, unless God forbid, there's something wrong with you. She was on vacation in Hawaii. Okay, on a vacation and this, this to me, it feels like, and she's not coming to this one. This feels like an episode of, of House of Cards where Frank Underwood's wife wants to leave him for crazy. Kinda, kinda makes sense in the, in this sense. She wants to leave him, but they're all acting as if it's something else.

• 1:44:12Tom Ellsworth?

  She was visiting her sick mother and all that stuff, but let's not forget. Um, Michelle, uh, has been open about her tough marriage with Barack. And she even said that there was a decade where she couldn't stand him. Okay. She couldn't stand them, you know? And that's marriage, you know, long, tough, you got, you guys get the, get the, uh, get the picture. But I, I think this is something, I think this might be something deeper. You could play the whole, I hate Trump and I, I don't want to be there. I feel this is my opinion and I've heard rumors about this, uh, online too, that there might be something deeper. They might not be happy with each other. She said she couldn't stand them for 10 years. Maybe she can't stand him right now and maybe this might be the end, which I think, uh, that's where I'm at. I think this could be deeper, Tom.

• 1:44:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what do you think?

• 1:44:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, uh, no jokes. I'm not, I'm being dead serious. No, no, I'm saying for me, I'm, I'm not going to make any comments here. It's, it'd be very easy to do so, but I, I'm gonna look at it this way. The world is watching and I actually get emotional when I think about this. The world is watching our transfer of power. The world is watching and there's a time to be orderly and to demonstrate our leadership and our strength as a country. And I'll be honest with you, this is disappointing to see that the outgoing first lady over the last couple of months. Not outgoing, she was the prior first lady.

• 1:45:37Tom Ellsworth?

  To see her not attend, it's like, unless, you know, um, Kate, William's wife in the UK. She's sick. She had cancer treatments, but they wanted to keep it down. Yeah. Um, so she didn't attend things unless Michelle is sick and they're just leaving it quiet. Then I, I think that, you know, um, she should be attending and I have to say this. Say it. Trump did not attend Biden's inauguration. And so I have to look at it and say, hey, come on, no matter how bad the campaign, no matter how bad the attacks, we need to stand on that stage together and show the unified

• 1:46:16Tom Ellsworth?

  force of the United States of frickin' America. And I think you should be there for that moment. You can, even in the, the pit of angst and disgust that is the political election cycle, you can take two hours, even in the cold, and stand there in front of the rest of the, of the world and say, we may fight with ourselves, but you don't want to fight with us.

• 1:46:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Very good point. Adam?

• 1:46:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, uh, I thought it was such a great moment when Trump and Obama were sitting next to each other, joking around, having a conversation at Jimmy Carter's funeral. I thought that was compelling. I thought it was needed. I thought it was unifying. I thought it was synergistic for America. I think we need stuff like that. I agree with Tom. I don't like the fact that President Donald Trump, who lost the election in 2020, didn't show up to Joe Biden's inauguration. I didn't like that. Um, I think that Trump is hopefully turning a new page. He's sort of playing with house money. I think he's hopefully going to extend an olive branch and be kinder and nicer and be more inviting to people. Michelle Obama not doing this just shows that she's vindictive and she's

• 1:47:27Tom Ellsworth?

  emotional and she's playing the race card. You know, for me, if Barack Obama didn't show up, yo, we got a problem. We have a story. If this dude, I mean, if Michelle Obama doesn't show up, um, okay, we show that you're petty. It shows that you're, uh, not willing to, uh, put America first and you're putting your personal interests first. Okay, Michelle, thank you. By the way, has any couple in America had a worse year than the Obamas?

• 1:47:57Speaker 04

  I don't think so.

• 1:47:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Have they?

• 1:47:58Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:47:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Because between the scolding, between the looking down, between the talking down to people, you know, between the, the, if you're black and you don't vote for Kamala, it worked zero. So Trump's coming in, round two.

• 1:48:13Patrick Bet-David?

  So.

• 1:48:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Barack Obama, Michelle Obama.

• 1:48:15Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so a couple of things, couple of things. One, uh, remember Melania didn't attend the, the invitation that the Bidens gave to go there. And Melania didn't go. Trump went, I don't know if you remember that, this was like six weeks ago, five weeks ago. When the, when, when you remember, there was a picture of Joe Biden and Trump and they were talking to each other and uh, Jill was there, but Melania didn't go.

• 1:48:41Tom Ellsworth?

  This was what event?

• 1:48:42Patrick Bet-David?

  This was five weeks ago, guys, just type in Joe Biden, type in Biden invites, uh, uh, Biden invites Trump, Melania skips.

• 1:48:49Tom Ellsworth?

  To the White House?

• 1:48:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:48:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:48:51Patrick Bet-David?

  This was five weeks ago, guys, when the meeting took place and Melania chose not to go. Yeah, there you go.

• 1:48:58Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm okay with that.

• 1:48:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Melania chose not to, Melania expected to skip Wednesday's White House. Uh, uh.

• 1:49:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, this is after he won the election.

• 1:49:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, I, I, I understand. I'm trying to make my point and you've given commentary.

• 1:49:10Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm sorry.

• 1:49:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I get it. So Melania, Trump expected to skip, so she skipped, which by the way, it's fine, okay?

• 1:49:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So now Michelle wants to skip this, totally get it. Melania just had a book come out. Jennifer's reading her book and she's loving the book. Here's Melania talking about her experience with Michelle Obama when they came in. I've never seen her talk about this stuff, okay? She is now openly talking about some of the stories, okay? Go for it, Rob, play this clip. What is it like when you're moving back in the White House? Are you, what's different this time?

• 1:49:44Patrick Bet-David?

  The difference is I know where I will be going. I know the rooms where we will be living. I know the.

• 1:49:50Speaker 04

  The first time was challenging. We didn't have much of the information. The information was upheld for us from previous administration. But this time I have everything. I have the plans. I could move in. I already packed. I already selected the, you know, the furniture that needs to go in. So it's, it's very different transition this time, second time around. Will you decorate it exactly like it was before or are you making changes? A little bit of changes, not much. How have the Bidens been? Have they been accommodating and are they still living there? They're still living there and they will be out on January 20th.

• 1:50:33Speaker 04

  So what happened is on January 20th, the transition team has only five hours to move Bidens out and to move us in. So everything needs to be planned to the minute. I will be in the White House and, you know, when I need to be in New York, I will be in New York. When I need to be in Palm Beach, I will be in Palm Beach. But my, my first priority is, you know, to be a mom, to be a first lady, to be a wife. And once we are in on January 20th, it's you serve the country.

• 1:51:07Patrick Bet-David?

  What a night and day difference. You hear what she said, Pat? She did. She used a different word. She said upheld. They were withheld. That means when she came in with Barack and Michelle, they withheld information and they basically said to hell with you. You're on your own to come in. That's what she's saying. That's what she's saying. She's saying the fact that they were not helpful. And, and again, listen, drama, like what you said, a little bit of what Michelle is doing and hey, I'm not going to be there. I think it's going to be totally fine that they're not going to be there. The reality of it is what? Trump won. They're in there. Michelle gets, Melania gets to go back in and do whatever she wants to do with the way the White House is going to look. They won. History books are going to favor Trump's.

• 1:51:52Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what's going to happen. And that above anything else. I can't see why it's tough for Michelle to be there, fully. I can't see what's going to be tougher to be there. Vinnie, what are your thoughts on this? I want your honest opinion. In regard to Trump.

• 1:52:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump not going to the inauguration when Biden won. And this, I'm being dead serious. If you believe, Pat, and you knew and you had proof in your heart of hearts that they cheated, the Biden administration cheated, the deep state cheated, all the voting, all the regulators, it's a fact, there's no joking, FBI was at Twitter. You know all that and it's a fact, guys, it's not BS. Would you, just because it's procedure, would, Tom, you showing up saying, "I'm cool with it." That's number one, I want that question, if you guys can answer that. Would, I wouldn't have gone, that's me personally, if they cheated, I knew they cheated. And number two, at the funeral, Adam, you're saying he was sitting next to Barack and it was fun and it's cordial, it's bringing back America.

• 1:52:51Patrick Bet-David?

  When he walked in front of them, Barack Obama tried destroying him, Hillary Clinton tried destroying him, the majority of the people in that room tried to literally kill him, okay? Put him in jail for the rest of his life, make him broke. And a lot of people would say that Butler shooting and all that, that's all deep state shit. How, how can you in your right mind say that that's a good thing for us? And I want to know, what do you guys think about, if you knew that they cheated?

• 1:53:14Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll give you a real world example that comes out of multiple biographies.

• 1:53:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 1:53:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Richard Nixon said, "We knew and we had evidence that the Kennedy crime family, through the liquor associations, stole West Virginia." West Virginia was won by Richard Nixon. We knew that they had topped up in Illinois through Daley's Crime Machine in Chicago. And we knew it was going to be close, but we figured Kennedy's probably going to win it in Illinois. I did not think it. Richard Nixon has talked about all this and the biographies of people that worked with Richard Nixon talk about it. Kennedy stole the election in 1960 with his, with his father's finger on all kinds of buttons. And you know what Richard Nixon said?

• 1:54:00Tom Ellsworth?

  "I do not think that a full-blown attack was good for the country." And he would be elected in 1968. I think that even if you're, we're talking about transfer of power. I think for two hours, you demonstrate the leadership of the country that you wanted to lead to rest of it. And by the way, I cannot imagine what it would have felt like to have the passion to serve that I clearly see President Trump has, to have, to go through how he had to defeat the media, he had to defeat the RNC. Of all the opponents he defeated, he didn't just defeat Hillary Clinton on that November morning when he won.

• 1:54:43Tom Ellsworth?

  He defeated so much more and the establishment. And then four years later, to feel like, I can't believe the empire struck back. I can't believe that that would, I just can't imagine what that would have felt like. But for two hours on the nation's capital, you can transfer power. As painful and as difficult as it could be, that's my opinion. And Richard Nixon said, for the good of the country, I'm not going to push this. So we have a real world example.

• 1:55:12Speaker 04

  I'm interested in seeing this one thing. What is Melania's objective going to be in this second administration? Because, you know, what is the role of the first lady, right?

• 1:55:24Tom Ellsworth?

  They have a cause, right?

• 1:55:25Speaker 04

  They have a cause. So just let's go down the causes that I even recall in my lifetime of president. I was born and Reagan was the president. Nancy Reagan, her cause was just say no, the war on drugs. How'd that work out?

• 1:55:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Nothing.

• 1:55:36Speaker 04

  Not so good.

• 1:55:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Drugs won.

• 1:55:37Speaker 04

  Michelle Obama, her whole thing was let's move, let's fight childhood obesity and let's eat healthier. You guys are having fatter, fatter, more obese kids than ever, America. We talked, we said that they just outlawed a red dye number two, the food in America. Joe Biden's cause was education. And we can all basically argue that it's been indoctrination.

• 1:56:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Doctor Joe Biden, alright?

• 1:56:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. I'm sorry, I put a doctor on her name. Melania in a. Ironic twist, do you remember what her objective was and what her cause was? Be best. So cyberbullying. If there's anybody that knows a thing or two about cyberbullying, Donald Trump. So it's gonna be very interesting to see what her another, what her next objective will be. She's no longer raising Barron. He was a kid when she was there. The guy's 18 years old crushing at NYU. She no longer has to support Trump in that matter. So I'd like to see what she does. I want to know what Pat, because I know you want to move on, but what do you think? And I get it, what he's talking about, about the institution and, and, but if they're trying to kill you and they're trying to destroy you and they cheated, would you, you personally, Pat,

• 1:56:47Speaker 04

  I know who you are. I know exactly who you are. You're gonna show up and just because you're supposed to show up knowing that they cheated, that's, that's giving in to the, to their actions. That's me. I want to know if you like.

• 1:56:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So I'll tell you, we're in Hawaii. It's March of 09. It's me, Jen, my dad, and we're there and, and I know what happened with what the company I was a part of did to me. And it was unbelievable with what happened. And everything was documented, everything that happened. And they eventually had to apologize for it when I flew out to Atlanta. And I sat in with 20 people. But after they apologized, I wanted to be the CEO of that company and I wanted to eventually run that company. Okay. And I felt I would have done a good job to do it. It was important to me to do so. And we're in Hawaii. It's me and another guy named Jeff. Jeff will remember this vividly.

• 1:57:43Patrick Bet-David?

  They asked me to go to Hawaii. I went. I did not want to go to Hawaii. But I went and the guy comes and he asked me to speak and I said, Scott, respectfully, you don't want me to speak.

• 1:57:58Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, what do you mean? I said, I'm telling you. I'm telling you as a favor to you. You're the president of company. You do not want me to speak. I'm not gonna speak. I'm here, but I'm not gonna speak. So don't ask me to speak because it's not gonna be something you're gonna like. Nah, what are you talking about? You guys said, I'm telling you, I'm not speaking. So me and Jeff went, told them in a bone. And the people that were there and know the story, it's probably 25 people that know this story. They know exactly what happened. Um, I showed up and we did our thing. And then six months later, we started PHP. And then, uh, when, uh, they sued us and they had, uh, they, they got people to be pinned against me. They pinned them against me by stuff that they said.

• 1:58:40Patrick Bet-David?

  So there was a, uh, uh, the lawyers in a room and they're sitting there with everybody else. And everybody is throwing me under the bus, right? The people that didn't come with us. One of our guys, his name was, uh, Mohammed. Love this guy. He was like, Pat, I'm all you. A, uh, Muslim guy who I can't give you his last name. I'm not gonna give his last name because I don't wanna expose him. But, uh, he comes and he said, I hate Patrick. He's this, he's that. He goes in there, he records the entire thing. Hmm. And he says, Patrick, I was in room for three hours. All these people that you helped, this guy said this, this guy said that, this guy said this. I have the entire recording here for you to listen to. Wow.

• 1:59:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, Mohammed, let me start off by saying to you, I appreciate the loyalty. I broke the disc. I trashed it. I said, I'm moving on. I'm not even looking back. Guys, when I move on. It's over. No, no, I move on. When I move on, I move on. And we never listened to it, never. Uh, of the people that were in that room with the lawyers, more than half of them came back to our company. Okay, think about it. The people that helped them sue, more than half of them came back to the company and we moved on. Having said that, that's like 100 of a percent of what this guy went through on the national stage. This is not social, this is not any of that stuff. Having said that, remember, one area I'm very consistent when I express myself about

• 2:00:08Patrick Bet-David?

  the president, and I said this on Pierce the other day, he's in the best flow state I've ever seen him. His level of consciousness right now, it's the highest it's ever been, in my opinion, from what I've seen. I don't know the man. We've only spent probably a few hours together, not a lot. So, and that's here, Mar-a-Lago, a couple of the interactions that we've had. And in 2020, you know, business plan, in my business plan, uh, page two, for my own self, I said, "You are battle-tested, but just like the video games, there are levels to this game. The next one will be a big one. If you make it through the next level, you will exponentially grow.

• 2:00:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Few things you will have to embrace, which fights to fight, which fights to ignore, prevent being provoked. If you're going to fight, fight up, not down. Negative bitter entitled victims with time on their hands will try to get under your skin. This is their way of getting confirmation and validation. Don't fall for this trap." Mark Twain once said, "You can't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." I have learned over the years that people like to verbally hit below the belt, that's Mark Twain. Be self-aware, this, be like the water well, and I've said this before, focus on signal instead of noise, right? I think 2020, the noise got a hold of Trump, period. And this time around, he is the noise. And he signaled, he was focused on getting the job done. A lot of people, like I talked to some guy the other day, he says, "Oh, my God, how does it feel?

• 2:01:35Patrick Bet-David?

  You were one of the top 10 people that helped him get elected with all this stuff and da-da-da." I said, "What we did is nothing compared to what he had. 99.9% of him winning is him." Of course, God and all the stuff that happened with the shooting, but for a man to be able to go through hell like he did the last 18 months, I don't know if in the history of America, anybody's ever had to go through that before. And that is why my level of respect for him being able to handle... The, the pain, the noise, all of that is so high and he prevailed and he prevailed. And you can see that on Melania's face, you can see that on his face. You can see that both Melania and Trump went to the funeral of Jimmy Carter.

• 2:02:20Patrick Bet-David?

  She was willing to hug, uh, uh, uh, Mike Pence's wife and she never once got up. Yep. To the point that even the other guy got up to a liberal guy that, uh, climate change guy, Al Gore got up, Mike Pence got up. And he even talked to, but notice where she sat. She sat to the left away from everybody. Yep. Typically a man sits in the aisle. Yep. If you ever sit in a, I never sit in the, in middle and Jen sits in the aisle. I sit in the aisle. And part of it may be because she didn't want to sit next to Barack. It's just a male female understanding, a sexual thing, but, um, no, listen, they prevailed. History books are going to favor these guys. And some of the best books and movies and documentaries we ever watch is going to be about this guy. Stay tuned, future looks bright. Okay, let's finish up with a couple of the stories here and let's wrap up.

• 2:03:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Um, okay, so we got the stories with, um, do we want to go Hamas? Do we want to go Eagles fan? Do we want to go Alfa Mel? Do we want to go Brad Pitt? Do we want to go, uh, um, do we want to go ceasefire real quick? What time is it, Rob? 19, can we, Adam? Can we do two stories? Okay, so let me go through the Hamas real quick. So Gaza ceasefire deal reached, and then we're going to do Brad Pitt and wrap up any. Okay. So Gaza ceasefire deal reached, uh, between Israel Hamas truce during Sunday. Rob, it looks like you got a video. Is that the one of Biden? If you do, prepare it. I'm going to read this real quick. A phased ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas will begin on Sunday, according to US and Qatari officials.

• 2:03:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Ending 15 months of war that killed over 46,000 Palestinians and displaced most of Gaza's 2.3 million residents. The six weeks truce includes Israel's gradual military withdrawal, the release of 33 Israeli hostages and in exchange for Palestinian prisoners. US President Joe Biden stated, "This deal will halt the fighting in Gaza surge much needed humanitarian assistance in Palestinian civilians and reunite the hostages with their families for more than 15 months." Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin, uh, Abdul Raham Al Tani announced the agreement in Doha, negotiated by Egypt, Qatar and US support with pact. Uh, the pact follows an Israeli, uh, offensive launched, uh, after Hamas's October 7th, uh, attack. Uh, Adam?

• 2:04:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so don't look now, uh, as people are starting to get.

• 2:04:30Speaker 04

  optimistic and be excited about this peace deal. Uh, breaking news, uh, ceasefire deal in limbo as Hamas threatens to basically reneg on the deal. So, anyone that's ever heard me say you can't negotiate with terrorists, this is what the state of Israel is doing.

• 2:04:51Speaker 04

  My message to the Palestinians and the Palestinian people out there while they're trying to do this deal, and I'll just break down the deal real quick. You gotta give the people of Palestine something to live for, because right now, all they have is something to die for. Uh, you know, when I had the argument with, uh, discussion with Bassem Youssef, I said, you have to shift the focus from G D T to G D P. There's countries in the Middle East that are thriving. Look at what's going on in the UAE, look at what's going on in Saudi with MBS, look what's going on in Qatar, look what's going on in Kuwait. There's no terrorism, there's economic prosperity, there's peace, there's nothing like that. In certain parts of the world, Palestinians, they, in Lebanon right now, God bless what's going on there, Syria, it's a mess.

• 2:05:36Speaker 04

  You have to give these people a greater cause than just killing other people and being a destroyer. There's builders and there's destroyers and there's creators and there's people who just want to tear it all down. Right now, their sole objective is just tearing down Israel. They're not talking about building up Gaza, they don't build up, they build down, that's why they've taken billions of dollars. They didn't build infrastructure, they didn't build parks, they didn't build nur- uh, hospitals, they didn't build nursery school, they didn't build any of that. They built tunnels, so, uh,

• 2:06:08Speaker 04

  if you want to break down the deal, if it even gets to phase three, there's three phases of the deal. Phase one, they're going to have a six weeks of ceasefire, uh, which in my perspective, I don't even think that's gonna last. Good luck telling terrorists not to shoot missiles into civilian zones, good luck. We see what's going on with that, and then they're gonna exchange hostages for prisoners, so it's just hostages, innocent people for people in prison. So if they get to phase two, which is a permanent end to the war, if they get to phase three, Which is the remains of hostages. You know where they're gonna get? Do you think about this for a second? If they do these three things. Six weeks, ceasefire, uh, ending of the war, remains.

• 2:06:53Speaker 04

  Do you know where they're gonna end up? Exactly where they were October 6th of 2023. What the hell was the purpose of this war? Your city's been ruined. You've lost tens of thousands of people. You, you're gonna get back to where you were October 6th. Nothing's happened. You've done nothing. You've accomplished nothing. And they talk about, uh, all right, we're gonna have this a prisoner exchange. What's the value of life between a, uh, an Israeli and a, uh, and the Palestinians? This isn't my opinion. Look at the template. In 2001, 2011, there was a hostages exchange for one Israeli soldier, one. Gilad, um, Gilad Shalit.

• 2:07:37Speaker 04

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• 2:08:26Patrick Bet-David?

  For one, one prisoner?

• 2:08:27Speaker 04

  For one Israeli prisoner.

• 2:08:29Patrick Bet-David?

  How many?

• 2:08:30Speaker 04

  How many, how many? One Israeli hostage, how many Palestinians?

• 2:08:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Palestinian prisoners, did they swap?

• 2:08:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Fifty.

• 2:08:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Fifty, okay.

• 2:08:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Was it?

• 2:08:38Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you're close, you're close. How many, what do you think, Tom?

• 2:08:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Well.

• 2:08:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know the answer?

• 2:08:42Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 2:08:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Just say the answer.

• 2:08:43Tom Ellsworth?

  No, but I remembered it being like, like, like thirty, fifty. I don't remember the exact number.

• 2:08:48Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think the number was? All I know is you said you're gonna be quick, and I'm sitting here waiting. Just take a guess. One thousand. You're absolutely right. Okay. For a thousand Palestinian prisoners, you get one Israeli life. So they're dictating what the demands are. Do I think this, this ceasefire is gonna work, though? You don't think it's gonna work? I don't think it's gonna work. Not even under Trump? Under Trump, we're gonna see what happens. I'm saying this deal right now. I got you. I don't think this is gonna happen. This is the Qatari prime minister. Look who he's giving credit to. Go for it. We just talked about him right now. Go for it.

• 2:09:18Speaker 03

  And captives in order to establish a ceasefire, permanent ceasefire.

• 2:09:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Roll over, really. Oh, my God.

• 2:09:24Speaker 03

  In addition to the delivery of intense relief aid into our brothers in Gaza Strip. Here, at the outset, I would like to extend appreciation to our partners in Egypt, United States, namely, the US elects envoy, Mr. Steve Woskoff, and the Middle East and Northeast coordinator, and Mr. Brett Bogark, for their extensive effort that have yielded in others.

• 2:09:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Did he say Trump? Rob, did he say Trump?

• 2:09:55Tom Ellsworth?

  I didn't see Trump in there.

• 2:09:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 2:09:56Tom Ellsworth?

  I think he said president-elect. Do you see that?

• 2:09:58Patrick Bet-David?

  He said president-elect. So he's talking about President Trump. And then, by, by the way, now play the clip of Biden taking credit for this, if you could.

• 2:10:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm sure.

• 2:10:04Patrick Bet-David?

  So, watch this one here, folks.

• 2:10:08Speaker 00

  We'll hold. I'm confident. Thank you.

• 2:10:12Speaker 03

  Who gives credit for this, Mr. President, you or Trump?

• 2:10:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that a joke?

• 2:10:17Speaker 00

  Is that a joke? Oh.

• 2:10:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:10:20Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 2:10:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure.

• 2:10:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 2:10:21Patrick Bet-David?

  As if Trump had nothing to do with this. Yeah, so this is the part that's just kind of funny when you're going through this and taking credit. By the way, you know what this reminds me of? One president, Jimmy Carter. Yeah. Uh, but in that moment, it was different. It happened right before President Reagan became president, and President Reagan kind of gave a little bit of credit to Carter. In this case, he's taking credit, saying it's because of us that they did this, and it doesn't seem like it's even happening anyways. But let's go to the last story here. Vinny, I, I, I'm really wondering if the story you're about to say is true or not. But if it is true, this may be the funniest story of the year about Brad Pitt. Go for it.

• 2:10:59Speaker 04

  50 year old French woman, just her name is just Anne, was deceived by a scammer impersonating Brad Pitt, leading to her divorce from her husband, and she lost approximately $850,000. The scam began in February 2023 when someone posing as Brad Pitt's mother contacted Anne via social media and she said that her son really needed someone like Anne. Okay, this was followed by a message from the scammer pretending to be Brad Pitt. The impersonator used AI-generated images and videos to convince Anne of his identity, even lying a story about needing funds for kidney cancer treatment.

• 2:11:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Look how happy is that, having kidney cancer.

• 2:11:38Speaker 04

  Hey, can we just show this one, Rob?

• 2:11:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Kidney cancer, yo.

• 2:11:41Speaker 04

  Where's the one where he has a sign that says, like, look, look, look.

• 2:11:47Speaker 04

  Anne, I love you. So believing she is in a romantic relationship with the actor, she divorces her husband, transfers all this money to the scammer, and this, this continued to 2024, mid 2024, when she, guess how she realized she was duped?

• 2:12:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, when he didn't show up?

• 2:12:04Speaker 04

  No, no, ready for this? She saw reports of Brad Pitt's real-life relationship with Ernest de Ramon. So this girl's like on TMZ, she's like, who the hell is that?

• 2:12:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Do we have a picture of this woman?

• 2:12:15Speaker 04

  No, no, no, trust me, you don't want to see her.

• 2:12:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to see her.

• 2:12:18Speaker 04

  They don't have her, but look at this, look at this one. I love you so much, my wife.

• 2:12:22Patrick Bet-David?

  You're joking.

• 2:12:23Speaker 04

  I'm not joking, guys.

• 2:12:24Patrick Bet-David?

  This dumb broad gets everything she deserves.

• 2:12:28Speaker 04

  But you ready for this? I, I agree. The emotional and financial toll led, I mean, this isn't funny. She was hospitalized for severe, uh, severe depression, and she filed a complaint and investigation. But dude, like, you realize, okay.

• 2:12:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And she divorced her husband. Could you imagine where the husband is right now? He's like, are you kidding me?

• 2:12:47Speaker 04

  I mean, but look at the, like, the photos, and I, I wish we had the videos of, of.

• 2:12:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Tell me what this woman looks like.

• 2:12:53Patrick Bet-David?

  There's the montage, guys. Go to the montage, Rob. Look at all, like, guys. Look at the surgery. Look at the surgery one. Go to the bottom right. Go to the bottom right. Look. Oh my god. Look at the surgery.

• 2:13:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, who's taking a photo in there? And, but, the odds are, there's some Indian guy out there that scam, that's bragging to his friends, like, Raj, for that bit, for that bit, almost a million dollars. That is, this is, I had to do- One million rupees! I had to fact check, it's 100% real, and then, um, they had to take a story offline because people were going after her and trying to find out who she is. Fine, Rob, can we find out who she is?

• 2:13:34Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what, this scammer better hope that her brother or a cousin is not like a veteran with PTSD and a short fuse.

• 2:13:45Patrick Bet-David?

  But this is, I mean, they're in France, bro, but what a, but then she, her husband, the one she left her, he's 20 years her senior. Or she's, she's 20 years younger than him, and she's gone. How, how do you get duped? Is that her?

• 2:13:58Tom Ellsworth?

  He's the guy-

• 2:13:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that her, Rob?

• 2:13:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, according to The Telegraph, that is the woman believed to be Anne.

• 2:14:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Get out of here.

• 2:14:04Tom Ellsworth?

  That's again, according to The Telegraph.

• 2:14:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at him post-surgery, look at-

• 2:14:09Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, guys, I mean, you cannot, this is, you can't make this up. Like, the scammer must have been like, are you- A part of me is so shocked right now. Unbelievable.

• 2:14:19Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, it's been 20 years, 20 years, guys, since that poor Nigerian general who needed our help-

• 2:14:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:14:27Tom Ellsworth?

  To get $500 so he could get out, which was like the scam of 20, of 2002.

• 2:14:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny donated a hundred bucks!

• 2:14:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you remember that guy? If you could just help me with 500 bucks, I will split-

• 2:14:42Patrick Bet-David?

  My kingdom with you.

• 2:14:43Tom Ellsworth?

  My kingdom with you. It was a Nigerian general that was in prison.

• 2:14:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Raj, trust me, just tell them you're Leonardo DiCaprio.

• 2:14:50Speaker 04

  It'll work, it'll work. Matthew McConaughey. Oh my.

• 2:14:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I watched a movie recently called Bookkeeper. I don't know if you've seen it or not, Bookkeeper with uh.

• 2:14:58Speaker 04

  The bald guy.

• 2:14:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Jason Statham, whatever, Jason Statham. And it's a story about somebody that gets uh, this exactly happens to them. Internet scammer like a hey, wire us money, whatever, bitcoin, stuff like that, and they do. And more than two million dollars an older lady gives, and the movie starts from there.

• 2:15:17Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 2:15:17Patrick Bet-David?

  And this guy goes back to find out exactly who did it, and there's an office that's sitting there doing this to people from uh, I don't know where it was based out of, but it's a worth watch. Everybody should watch this movie to just get an idea of what's happening with this year. I gotta wrap up.

• 2:15:33Speaker 04

  What's the famous quote from P T Barnum?

• 2:15:35Patrick Bet-David?

  What is it?

• 2:15:36Speaker 04

  There's a sucker born every minute. There we go.

• 2:15:38Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go, alright. Well guys, if you get a DM from somebody saying they're Brad Pitt, it's fake. Please, tell your wives, okay? Tell your wives, tell your wives to say, babe, if somebody tries to tell you to leave me for five million dollars and it's Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt is doing totally fine, do not fall for that, okay? Do not fall for that. Anyways, uh, look, for the news, the Nostradamus, Nostradamus, can you say three times? Say Nostradamus, Nostradamus, Nostradamus. Go to VTnews.ai, make your predictions. Thousands have already done it, go do yours, go to VTnews.ai. And after you vote, you can't change your vote, by the way. Once you do it, you can't change it.

• 2:16:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Leaders Bulletin, you will see the first Leaders Bulletin on uh, January 20th. Put a reminder on your phone, every morning 9 a.m. there's higher the points, the sooner you vote. And tomorrow, the great Scottie Pippen's podcast goes out, and oh my God, I think the NBA is gonna react after some of the stuff that he said. Some of the stuff that he said, I think the NBA is gonna react. Some people are not gonna be happy about it, but look, it is what it is. I can't wait for this thing to go out to see it. God bless everybody, take care, bye bye, bye bye.

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