Biden Pardon, AOC For President, Trump Meets Trudeau, Kash Patel FBI Director | PBD Podcast | Ep. 515

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick covering President Biden pardoning his son hunter, Donald Trump meets Justin Trudeau to discuss tariffs at Mar-a-Lago, and Kash Patel is nominated as FBI Director. 🧥VT MEN'S MERRY CHRISTMAS CREWNECK SWEATSHIRT: https://bit.ly/3D92DeY🎄 VT CHRISTMAS COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4hDCt3S https://bit.ly/4hDCt3S?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=product_shelf📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/3XC5ftN📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠https://bit.ly/3Zn2Moj🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/3ze3RUM🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: https://bit.ly/47iOGGx🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4e0FgCe📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/3MGK5EE👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4d5nYlU🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: https://bit.ly/3XC8L7k📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠https://bit.ly/3XjSSRK💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! SUBSCRIBE TO:‪@VALUETAINMENT‬ https://www.youtube.com/@VALUETAINMENT ‪@vtsoscast‬ https://www.youtube.com/@vtsoscast ‪@ValuetainmentComedy‬ https://www.youtube.com/@ValuetainmentComedy ‪@bizdocpodcast‬ https://www.youtube.com/@bizdocpodcast ‪@theunusualsuspectspodcast‬ https://www.youtube.com/@theunusualsuspectspodcast ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:25Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so, folks, today, we're gonna announce that we're giving away a few hundred Christmas trees. If you're South Florida-based, I'm gonna give you info on how to go about getting ready for this. We will be giving away Christmas trees in South Florida. I'll give you the intel here shortly. And I will be there myself as well. Aside from that, we got a lot of stuff to cover here today. It's been a interesting weekend, lots of stories, lots going on that we haven't yet reacted to. The View is back at it apologizing to their viewers, as usual. It's become a new thing that they do on a weekly basis. We'll address that. Bill Maher had Jane Fonda. There's a couple clips. I don't know if you guys had a chance to watch any of the clips.

• 2:02Speaker 00

  It bothered me. She bothers me. Her lug, her smug, just...

• 2:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You know I could be your mother. I bet you would like it if I sit you on my legs and spanked you. You would like that, wouldn't you?

• 2:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, she's gross.

• 2:12Patrick Bet-David?

  You can tell she's had some interesting experiences.

• 2:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, she's a Hollywood chick.

• 2:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Jane Fonda was on Bill Maher. And we'll talk about that.

• 2:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, this guy named, there's, there's this president in this country called America that decided to pardon his son after saying he would never do it, but he did. And, um, it's not called nepotism, apparently, if he does it, but if it is, if the other side, we have a lot of stuff to react to that part with Hunter Biden being pardoned. We haven't done it yet. Corrine Jean-Pierre, for the first time, I feel sorry for this girl because she's been saying, no, no, no. And then it happens. Now she doesn't know how to spin it. But, uh, we'll see what'll take place. Trump had, uh, uh, uh, Justin Trudeau in town at Mar-a-Lago. They're current Mar-a-Lago, the new White House folks. Uh, the White House may move to Palm Beach. The way it's going right now, can you imagine? He petitions, he says, now the capital of United States needs to be Palm Beach.

• 3:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, W had what they called the Western White House in Crawford, Texas. So why, so why can't Trump have the Southern White House?

• 3:13Speaker 00

  This is the winter.

• 3:14Patrick Bet-David?

  But he grew a soul patch in Crawford, Texas, right? Playing a little bit of a frisbee with Connie and, uh, and, uh, and, and Dick Cheney.

• 3:23Speaker 00

  A bunch of terrorists, a bunch of terrorists.

• 3:24Patrick Bet-David?

  He's, uh, they're trying to put steroids out of T-ball. Steroids in T-ball, but still keeping our eye on the ball.

• 3:31Speaker 00

  Foo, Foo, we won't, Kim, Kim.

• 3:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Shouldn't we be overthrowing a country, country somewhere?

• 3:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, Trump, uh, uh, says he will free January 6 rioters, which by the way, that's gonna be so interesting when he does that and how the market's gonna react to it. Joe Walsh has lost his mind. Joe is a friend of ours. He's been here before, Joe and Vinnie, you guys have done some stuff together.

• 3:52Speaker 00

  I've done some stuff on appears with him and told him what I thought about him.

• 3:54Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll, we'll react to that. RFK is taking naked showers. Okay, naked showers.

• 4:00Speaker 00

  But naked.

• 4:01Patrick Bet-David?

  And, uh, but, uh, I don't, I don't know if we're gonna show that.

• 4:03Tom Ellsworth?

  I think all of us do that, just not while our wife is filmed.

• 4:05Patrick Bet-David?

  While it's being filmed, yeah. Trump Defense Secretary, by the way, if there is a person that maybe could get away with taking a naked shower and the video goes viral, it's probably.

• 4:12Speaker 00

  RFK.

• 4:13Patrick Bet-David?

  It's probably him, because he's in shape. But still, you know.

• 4:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Um, Trump Defense Secretary nominee, P. Texas. Uh, again, Sunny had to apologize from The View. Uh, I, we'll see what that reaction was to. RFK rips Bill Gates, uh, John Kelly at Trump's Georgia uh, rally. Musk rivals fear that he will target them. Bernie admits Elon was right.

• 4:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I ran a poll on Twitter that will be talking about two of them. About would you be okay, would you pay 50% more for items if they were made in America? And the other poll we'll talk about is would you be okay with prices of goods going up 100% if taxes were eliminated? I'm curious to know how you react to it here on PBD Podcast, what the poll will come out. And then we have a couple guys, a major Dem donor says Baron Trump is smarter than Kamala Harris's entire campaign. George Clooney angry at Barack Obama for Democrats election debacle. Okay, Times, I will talk about that. Zelensky, a few stories there. Trump has been secretly communicating with Man Crush. Jamie Dimon about White House agenda for months.

• 5:21Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a New York Post story. These women, including OnlyFans model, are getting sterilized and blaming Trump for their decision. Election tied my hands. What a frickin' story there. AOC for president 2028, a lot of people are speculating she may run. And then you have Australia, a new law, they now ban no social media for anyone under the age of 16. I wonder if you like that idea or not. Police in Moscow raid bars over LGBT propaganda. Moviegoers, absurd about woke agenda and wicked. Eddie Griffin, all ditty people taking four-year cruise for Trump. There's a clip on that, we'll play the other one on Hokel with New York about ICE.

• 6:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Googling is for old people, folks, if you Google today, you're considered old, moving forward, that's a problem. It's the WSJ is calling Google for old people. So, hey, all the old people out there, stop Googling if you want to be young and trendy. I kind of have an idea what direction that story is going. Five iconic companies have stepped away from diversity, DEI. And then on the addendum with some new stories, some guy decides to hide $2 million of Bitcoins.

• 6:34Speaker 00

  Or not even Bitcoin, just a treasure and I have the list, all over the United States.

• 6:38Patrick Bet-David?

  If you want to find it, you have to do what?

• 6:40Speaker 00

  You have to buy a book that's $45 on Amazon and I want to do the math with you.

• 6:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And in the book.

• 6:46Speaker 00

  He tells you, and it's not easy by the way, but it's nothing dangerous. I'll go over the stipulation.

• 6:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 6:50Speaker 00

  So guess what? If you're home and, and I went to go try to look at the book, it doesn't get delivered for like a month or two, because it's like on back.

• 6:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we got it. Keep you waiting. Dolly Parton has put on 50 pounds after mental health battle, left her suicidal. That's tough, man. Uh, to go through it. Scott Jennings back at it again, says history will remember Biden as complete and total disgrace over Hunter. Uh, pardoning, um, whoopee, more things there. Joe Manchin says Biden should now pardon Trump after what he did with, uh, uh, what do you call it? After what he did with, um, his son Hunter. Okay. All right. So a couple of things here, guys, uh, as we're going through, uh, this here today, uh, in November, let me tell you what happened with November with Black Friday, Cyber Monday, everything that we did.

• 7:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Absolutely amazing what took place. We have more people ordering stuff in a month of November than we did all of last year. Record breaking month. I love the fact that people are fully, we want a million people wearing future looks bright gear. And this is probably your last chance here this week to order stuff that it gets to you before Christmas. So you can sport some of this gear. We have the Merry Christmas hats that you can go order. Anybody that orders, the first hundred that order, we still have some ornaments left. The Merry Christmas ornaments and future looks bright ornaments left for some of you that haven't. And we have this new gear that came out, which I freaked, I wish you could feel this material. Feel the material, by the way, what this feels like. Just feel the material.

• 8:20Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 8:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Even a, a, a.

• 8:22Speaker 00

  What is that velvet?

• 8:23Patrick Bet-David?

  It's, it's amazing, but on the back, what it says is, it says, happy holidays crossed, Merry Christmas at the bottom. Incredible material. This is on the, uh, on the website. If you got a newborn baby, the onesies, and we got a few other of these sweater, sweaters. Merry Christmas ugly sweaters. Rob, if you can put the link below VT merge, last chance, first hundred orders, you get the. ornaments sent over to you on StickRond. I'm gonna give you some intel on some of you guys that want to come and get uh what do you call it? The Christmas trees with us.

• 8:54Tom Ellsworth?

  What happened to the red Merry Christmas hat?

• 8:56Patrick Bet-David?

  That thing went out.

• 8:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Sold out.

• 8:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, did that sell out? Can you go to see if that sold out? I mean, I don't know what happened with that hat. To tell you what, is there still some left of that? Apparently there is. Because that went off. That, by the way, the first thousand orders, we sold like within two days. When it came out. Yeah, this is hot, folks. People are ordering this left and right.

• 9:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Hot route.

• 9:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Merry Christmas with Future Looks Bright on the side. A million people wearing Future Looks Bright gear. I want to run into you everywhere we go. I want to see that gear being worn. Tag us when you do that. All right.

• 9:29Patrick Bet-David?

  President Biden decides to pardon his son. Okay, Hunter. Everybody reacts to it. People lose their minds. The clips that you see going viral are clips of him saying he won't do it. No one's above the law. His words. It's funny, there's a tweet that's been trending with community notes. That's Biden who posted, "No one's above the law." Underneath it, the community note says, "On December 1st, President Biden..."

• 9:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Brilliant.

• 9:57Patrick Bet-David?

  "...pardon his own son after for 11 years he was accused..." And that's just the one, right? "No one is above the law."

• 10:03Tom Ellsworth?

  How brilliant is that?

• 10:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And look at this. Joe Biden has pardoned his son Hunter Biden.

• 10:07Tom Ellsworth?

  So his son is in fact...

• 10:08Patrick Bet-David?

  According to Joe Biden's action, he and his son are in fact above the law. That's community notes.

• 10:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Brilliant.

• 10:14Patrick Bet-David?

  That's brilliant.

• 10:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Elon sort of getting in there and editing it.

• 10:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, it's not though. It's the heel. It's the heel that's at the bottom of it. So it goes credit to whoever that writes the story. But I'll just open it up, Rob. Do we want to go with Scott Jennings? Let's start off with Scott Jennings' clip. Scott Jennings uh is somebody, but by the way, respect to LA Times, who just decided to at Scott Jennings.

• 10:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, shout out to that.

• 10:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Who will be sitting on their board, right? Editorial board, if I'm not mistaken? I think he got some kind of a job that he's sitting on the editorial board. Let me see if I find this here. Yeah, I'll tell you here in a second.

• 10:45Tom Ellsworth?

  No, that's correct. And the owner also refused to endorse any particular candidate.

• 10:50Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 10:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Looks like the owner is trying to, trying to, trying to get back toward the middle.

• 10:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Good. Here's Scott Jennings, by the way. Go ahead. Play this clip. Scott Jennings on the part.

• 10:58Speaker 00

  You guys can spend all day long trying to spin this, that this is Donald Trump's fault, that this is somehow caused by Donald Trump. Look on the guy's face on the left.

• 11:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Girl, her name is Karen.

• 11:10Speaker 00

  This is the worst possible thing a president could possibly do to his party and to the country, to sit for a year and say, "I will not do this. I will not do this. The rule of law is sacred. We have to respect the justice system. Jurys, we have to respect juries. We have to respect the guardrails and the norms of our democracy." These people are liars. Inflation, it's transitory. Afghanistan, it's a success. The border is secure. Robert Herr is a liar. The videos are cheap fakes. Biden has a cold. He'll never drop out. Oh, I'll never pardon Hunter. It's all a lie. It is all a grift.

• 11:52Speaker 00

  Every American, except the most partisan, brain-rotted people are going to be

• 11:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Like her, look at her, he knows he's talking about her.

• 11:59Speaker 00

  He is going to leave off. You think 38, 39% job approval is bad?

• 12:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Scott, hold up, Scott, my name is Karen.

• 12:04Speaker 00

  Just you wait, just you wait. He's disgraced, disgraced today. Outrageous.

• 12:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Her name is Karen. Really, her name is Karen.

• 12:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, are you surprised that he pardoned his own son? And does this open it up and allow Trump to do whatever he wants to do? Because no matter who he pardons is not going to be close to a president pardoning his own son.

• 12:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, so we have to understand what happened here. You have to read the pardon to understand that this is not just covering his son. This starts back in 2014. Otherwise, he could say, "I am pardoning him for the tax, gun ownership, and, you know, list the issues specifically." Usually, that's what they do. Presidential pardon says, "I'm pardoning this guy who is on death row because I believe DNA evidence showed that he didn't do it, and so I'm pardoning him on that." What this was, was a blanket pardon for all crimes going back to 2014. Why 2014? That is before the gun charge. Why?

• 13:12Tom Ellsworth?

  It's because 2014 is when the business was started in the Ukraine.

• 13:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, weird.

• 13:18Tom Ellsworth?

  And the money was going back. So guess who also gets covered? Because if... If Hunter was forwarding 10% for the big guy, remember that?

• 13:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 13:28Tom Ellsworth?

  If he was doing that, now he's pardoned for that. If there were 14 bank accounts that Hunter was manipulating to send the money back to the Biden cousins and nieces and nephews, you know what I'm talking about? Guess what? This is now covering that. This is not a pardon. This is a massive cover up and a huge sweep of the entire Ukrainian graft and bribes and kickback.

• 13:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Grift.

• 13:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Grift, graft, bribes, all that was going.

• 13:59Patrick Bet-David?

  All the above.

• 14:00Tom Ellsworth?

  All the above that was going back. I'm not surprised that he did it for his son, but it's not. This is covering the whole thing and it happens moments after Donald Trump utters the words, Kash Patel, and.

• 14:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that was days after.

• 14:18Tom Ellsworth?

  And you know what? They know they're coming. They know they're coming. This is, don't be deceived. Everyone that is in and around Joe Biden wants you to think this is about pardoning his son. He never said he would pardon his son. Look at what it says, all the way back to 2014, sweeping all malfeasances over that scope of time. Why?

• 14:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, and Tom, you nailed it. And guess what? The big guy, he came through. Okay? And if you guys, I love, not us, but the mainstream media, the Republicans are such shocked and in your awe, that's all these people have been doing is lying. When you see Corrine Jean-Pierre on that freaking, in the White House press room, you know that book that she has? That's just a book of freaking lies. Every time people talk, she's in there looking for another lie. Kate Hyde tweeted yesterday, she said, President, Biden's presidency started with him denying the existence of Hunter's laptop, and it is ending with Biden pardoning Hunter for all the things found on that laptop. And Tom, you nailed it. It's a blanket pardon, blanket immunity. That means it cannot be overturned. Supreme Court can overturn it.

• 15:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Congress can overturn it. Even Joe Biden, if Joe Biden wanted to overturn it, he can't. And I was watching yesterday, Jack Posobiec's podcast, and he said, from people on the hill. that he knows and White House staff you know what happened Thanksgiving and Nantucket there was a dinner Thanksgiving dinner and a pair allegedly a Hunter Biden stands up and goes hey guys just letting you guys know I'm thinking about writing a book I want to write a book about all of our all of our lives and this is the thing he was supposed to be sentenced December 12th so could you imagine that was basically are you guys waiting forever I think I should write a book about everything this was Jill and this was Joe Biden making sure their asses are covered and Tom you nailed it this is going back for 11 years and let's not forget

• 16:05Patrick Bet-David?

  all who Hunter was he got discharged from the Navy from 2014 for testing positive for guess what cocaine sleeps with his dead brother's wife the laptop controversy tax evasion firearm charges the business dealings and now we're still in shock that there was cocaine found in the White House and them saying that he's been sober for five years get don't even don't even come at me with that and now we have Democrats this is the hypocrisy of the left they're all like well you would do it too if it was your son that's not the case the case is the lying we've been lied to you guys have been lied to for eight years and I'm here's my question too is there any way that Biden could get in trouble like after because he can't pardon

• 16:46Patrick Bet-David?

  himself for all the stuff that was involved in all that's if they're parting him for all of that all that evidence is still there and the big guys on there the emails from Joe Biden are there could they get him in trouble back

• 17:01Speaker 04

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• 17:03Speaker 00

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• 17:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, I don't know if they can or not. I don't know what's gonna happen there. The question I want to ask you is the following. Yeah. Okay, let's, let's ask it from this perspective, Tom, and Adam, I want to come to you as well. Ask it from the perspective of, you know, father, okay, as a father, ask it from a perspective, uh, perspective of president. Ask it from a perspective of opening up departments that your enemy could do in those three areas, okay? Answer it that way. Meaning, honestly, as a father, you know, I'm not surprised he did it. Of course. Uh, uh, uh, number two, as a president, him doing it, it's a nasty legacy piece, but the way he'll write his book is gonna be written in a way that's probably gonna be

• 18:42Patrick Bet-David?

  favoring and emotional, and let me tell you, I was really concerned about him and I love him so much and all I thought about when, when he was a kid. But as a strategist, let me tell you, he just made things so easy for Trump. He made things, if you go on Twitter, Rob, I posted something on Twitter a couple of days ago, after this took place. And I'm trying to see which one it was, uh, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa. If you go on Twitter, I posted something about this whole pardon thing. And I said, um, yeah, oh, because originally, I said, I'm convinced he had zero intention of pardoning Hunter, because he didn't think Trump would win. My thoughts was, this guy wasn't gonna pardon, uh, Hunter.

• 19:21Patrick Bet-David?

  He was thinking whoever that was gonna be, he was gonna get a second term, and another Democrat was eventually gonna pardon, uh, Hunter. It's a better look if Kamala pardons Hunter. Hundred percent. So if he says Kamala, you go, one of the deals they probably brokered with Kamala is the fact that on day one, Good point. she pardons Hunter, so it's a bad look if he does it, but the moment Trump won is like, oh shit, now what do I do? Because the worst look is, if he doesn't pardon Hunter, you think Trump would pardon Hunter? I think he would. And you know what would happen to America if they see Trump pardon Hunter instead of Biden pardoning his own son? Think about that for a second. I mean, that's a tactic. I mean, the Trump fans wouldn't like it, but as a move, strategic move?

• 20:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump fans would like it. Let me tell you what Trump fans would like. You know why? Because they would say, oh, you said he's a dictator on day one? Would a dictator pardon his enemy's son? Would a dictator pardon his enemy's son on day one? Would he do that? So don't tell me he would do that. He's a unifier. I think they took, because for me, if I'm Trump, it's two ways for me. Again, this is my opinion, thinking like a strategist. Either way Biden is screwed, and either way Trump is good. Because here's how Trump's gonna do. He's gonna go, if you don't pardon him, I will pardon him. And I'm gonna pardon the January 6 people on the same day that I pardon your son.

• 20:48Patrick Bet-David?

  To confuse the shit out of the media. I think that's what he would have done if Biden doesn't pardon him. But at the same time, if you do pardon him, guess what? I'm gonna use that to pardon everybody else. Okay? So both ways, because if you go a little bit higher on the tweet, Rob, the thing that Trump understands that the rest don't understand is Trump understands leverage. He gets leverage. I think it's a tweet up. He understands leverage. He sits there thinking about his next 15 moves and he knows, you do this, I'm gonna do that. You do that, I'm gonna do this. You do this, I'm gonna do that. He is so ahead of the other competitors that he's going up against. They don't have it coming. But to me, it was a win-win for Trump. There was no way Trump was gonna lose from this.

• 21:32Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm convinced, I'm telling you 95% chance, I'm convinced. Me, this is my, they can come out and say you have no clue what you're talking about. Please don't speak on RBF. I'm not speaking. It's a podcast. I'm giving my opinion. 95% chance Trump would have pardoned. Hunter, on the same day that he would have pardoned the J6 people to, it would have been, I selfishly, I would have liked to have seen the media lose their mind over that. Yeah, yeah. Because it would have been like, we knew he was gonna pardon J6. Yeah, well, how about this? Well, that's probably. Yeah, they don't, they're lost. It would have been great. Adam, thoughts?

• 22:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I like the way you broke it down, basically, because you do, you have to think of this in multiple, basically, purposes. There is the father-son element of all this, and everyone that basically weighed in on this, from Pierce Morgan to Tucker to Rogan, everyone basically understands that as a father, they all said, listen, man, if my son were faced with something like this, if your son was accused of murder, if your son murdered somebody, would you turn him in? The resounding answer for most people was, no, I wouldn't. So if you're Joe Biden, the father, and you're looking back at your life, he lost a wife and his daughter, what, in 1971, to a car accident, dead. His main son, the good one, Beau Biden, who was the Attorney General of Delaware, I believe, also a major in the army, died, brain cancer.

• 22:51Tom Ellsworth?

  So now you have your crackhead son left, your only son remaining, and you have Ashley Biden as sort of a social activist. What would you do if you, if you were in that situation? You've already lost two kids. This is your only boy left, and you're like unbelievably sad and distraught over the situation. I understand that. Pivoting from that, as a leader, so you have the father and the son, then you have the leader and a loser. You have your loser son, you know, one of the, one of the best things that Trump and Hillary Clinton ever did was when he said, say one thing good about what your opponent has done. And he basically said, Hillary was like, look, look at this guy's kids.

• 23:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 23:26Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, we've met many of them, spoken, broken bread with many of them, from Don Jr. to Eric to Ivanka to Tiffany, I mean, Baron, what a stud. And then you juxtapose that, you look at Biden, Hunter Biden, and it's just like, what a frickin' loser. The crack, the drugs, the prostitution, the everything.

• 23:45Patrick Bet-David?

  The recording, recording and leaving it at a frickin' repair shop.

• 23:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Turned out to be true.

• 23:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course it is. We always knew.

• 23:50Tom Ellsworth?

  So the last thing is the precedent and the president, is now everyone's basically saying, what's the precedent here? What's the precedent here? What's the precedent here? So the flip side is, and you're starting to see the mental gymnastics, is they're starting to say, well, Trump pardoned Roger Stone, he pardoned Paul Manafort, he pardoned Steve Bannon, Michael Flynn, all these things. So what will the precedent be for Trump now that he's coming to term again?

• 24:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So I think, I think you have to look underneath it, and I understand the part about.

• 24:16Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, it's his son. He's been through a lot. The family's been through a lot. I, I agree with that. But I think hiding in plain sight is it doesn't, this is a criminal accomplice that just happens to be his son. The, being on the board of Burisma and those 11 payments of, uh, no, no. 15 payments for 11 million dollars between 2014, 2018. Then Rosemont Seneca investing in Metabiota. Look at all the things that are there hiding in plain sight. And that they want to call this, I found this is really funny. Catherine Jean-Pierre called it war politics. And then Biden said in a quote that it was raw politics.

• 24:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, raw is war spelled backwards. And I'm wondering if Biden misunderstood the word. And called it raw politics. It's war politics or she, I thought it was kind of interesting.

• 25:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, what are you saying?

• 25:08Tom Ellsworth?

  What I'm saying is they pardoned him because there is a litany of things that were on that hard drive that were crimes that were committed.

• 25:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So are you saying they pardoned him because it was going to link back to Joe? So really Joe pardoned himself?

• 25:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Back to Joe.

• 25:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait a minute. So what you're saying is, what you're saying is just so the audience understands. It's a very good point you're making. Joe Biden just pardoned himself is what you're saying.

• 25:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct. His accomplice, who will never testify against him, who now is forgiven for anything he may have done. Guess what? Is clean. And all those things I mentioned were coming back this way. And it just happens to be his son. But there's, I do have a compassionate heart. I believe that Joe Biden is on the twilight of, of just any sort of recognition. I think he's at the front door of where Ronald Reagan was, where a handwritten note was published by the LA Times where he says, you know, I have been told my condition is worsening. This is what I'm feeling. This is what it is. I believe Joe Biden is right on that doorstep. And we are seeing the sunset, who is one of the, you know, leaders of our nation over time.

• 26:16Tom Ellsworth?

  And I, but I also believe that what happened here is he pardoned himself by clearing.

• 26:22Patrick Bet-David?

  I got it. Okay.

• 26:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Hunter all the way back to 2014.

• 26:24Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so I want to, I want to, I want to show something. Can you pull this up with Keith Oberman? And this, this the part to me that's kind of confusing with, with what these guys are saying. So here's a Keith Oberman, I just texted it to you, Rob, a minute ago, and, and you put a thumbs up. Uh, uh, just go to replies right there, you'll find it. Go to replies. Yeah. If you go to replies, go a little lower, right there, second one right there. If you just click on it, there you go. Thank you.

• 26:49Speaker 00

  Look at that.

• 26:49Patrick Bet-David?

  So pardon Hunter, question mark. Great. Now pardon everybody else. Every prosecutor, every Biden administrator, every media figure, every Trump, everybody Trump will persecute. 10 million pardons at least. Then I say, why do you seem so rattled by this news? By the way, you know, he also says pardon me, like meaning pardoning.

• 27:11Speaker 00

  Him.

• 27:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Him. So this, this is, this is a little bit deeply concerning because the definition, Rob, if you can go online and, and look up the definition of pardon. Okay. I, I pulled it up. Just go to definition of pardon. Just type in definition, right next to the right, definition of pardon. Okay. Zoom in. The act of releasing someone from the legal consequences of a crime. Or an official document that does so. Okay. Of a crime. So what Keith Oberman indirectly is saying is that Joe Biden's entire administration were criminals. That's what Keith Oberman just said.

• 27:55Speaker 00

  Yup.

• 27:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Keith, you indirectly just said, all Democrats are criminals. Maybe somebody needs to call Keith Oberman from the DNC and just say, shut up. Similar to when they made a phone call to Mark Cuban and said, Mark, stop talking about Kamala Harris and go on a Hauk Toa podcast. Which I don't know if you saw or not. He was on a Hauk Toa podcast.

• 28:17Speaker 00

  Just going back to, uh, 6624 Keith Oberman, I sent it to Rob and I'll just read it. Uh, cause this is his tweet now. Back then he said, here, no one is above the law, not the rich, not the powerful, not the derelict. It's like he's totally, that's him. He's the, this guy is just alone.

• 28:32Patrick Bet-David?

  He's angry, he's bitter. Believe it or not, people like this, you know, there's a certain times like you're you're going to do a business deal. And it's a big deal. And you have to make a decision who you want to take to be in that room when you're doing a deal. Yeah. And a group sits down and decides who's not gonna make us look like an idiot. When you're making a big deal, okay? If you're the Democratic Party, it's people like this that hurts your brand, just so you know. This is not a good look, okay? I can listen to Bill Maher. As annoying as it was, sitting there and just watching him talk for an out for two hours and

• 29:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I spoke for maybe two minutes and whatever it was, I'm like, I don't even know what he's doing here. Watching Bill Maher sit there and and Rob, can you play this clip of Bill Maher, the one I sent you? Not the other one, the one with Bill Maher and and Jane Fonda. That he talks about California. And is this the one that says California, there's there's. That was the pregnant man one, this is the California. Oh, yeah. But watch this one here, I mean, you you want, okay, Bill Maher is still gonna vote for Kamala. Thousand percent. But guess what? This is a better brand than Keith Olbermann, than Jane Fonda. This is a better brand for the left, but the left is destroying him. Yep.

• 29:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, if I'm a Democrat, I'm like, dude, can we have more Bill Mars? Because at least he's getting people on the right that are wanting, just listen to the way he talks to Jane Fonda, it's like, woman, you you sound delusional about California, watch this clip here, go ahead, Rob.

• 30:11Speaker 00

  Believe that the state we live in, California, is is lacking regulation, there's over 300,000.

• 30:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this.

• 30:18Speaker 00

  Regulations, I mean, I once.

• 30:20Speaker 05

  Well, maybe they're needed.

• 30:21Speaker 00

  They're not.

• 30:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Just listen, watch what happens.

• 30:24Speaker 00

  Put in a garage door, I had to have three inspections, and there there should have been none. I should be allowed to change my garage door.

• 30:30Speaker 05

  Are you kidding? Really, it was about a garage door?

• 30:33Speaker 00

  Absolutely.

• 30:34Speaker 05

  I'm sorry, that, yeah, that is.

• 30:35Speaker 00

  No, you know this about California, come on.

• 30:37Speaker 05

  No, I don't.

• 30:38Speaker 00

  Well.

• 30:39Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I don't.

• 30:40Speaker 05

  I'm sorry, I don't.

• 30:42Speaker 00

  You don't, you've never heard that California is overtaxed and overregulated?

• 30:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this.

• 30:46Speaker 00

  That we are, we are a one-party state where there's sort of no checks on.

• 30:52Patrick Bet-David?

  That sort of extreme leftism. And that, why do you think?

• 30:56Speaker 05

  I don't for a minute consider California a state that is extreme leftist. Not at all, not any way.

• 31:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, that shows where your politics are. That's not where mine are. By the way, by the way, you know who she was married to? To the founder of CNN? Oh, the no, no wonder why. But CNN wasn't, Ted Turner wasn't that far left. That, that's as far left as it gets. Oh, she's the worst. Ted Turner was more Bill Maher than he was, what do you call it, Jane Fonda?

• 31:27Patrick Bet-David?

  His dream was to one day marry Jane Fonda, he did, but the moral of the story here is, the Democratic Party, the Keith Olbermann position, leaning away from those guys, you have to sit there, somebody in the Democratic Party has to sit there and say, hey, guys, guess what? What? Look at what Trump did. Don't look at who Trump went on. Who shows that Trump not go on?

• 31:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Think about that question right there. Who's, who wasn't seen as a close ally that he was comfortable being seen with? Why not? Why didn't he? You think that was accidental? There's plenty of people with a lot of eyeballs, why didn't he go there?

• 32:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Why didn't he go there? There were some places he didn't go to, because even him, and Suzie, is it Susan, Wild, Suzie Wiles, am I saying it correctly? Chief of Staff. Even they, do you think, on a second run that he's going, maybe Trump is more at a phase that he says, look, I need to lean on some people for better counsel, and he trusts Suzie Wiles, where maybe he didn't, he didn't have the, somebody that he trusted before? And says, hey, I don't think we go to XYZ. I don't think we go to some of these places. I think we plan all this out and we go to such and such. The Democrats need to sit there, no joke, if I had a room and I'm on the Democratic side, I'm gonna say, let's rank the top 100 influencers on the left. Who are they? Okay, guys,

• 32:54Patrick Bet-David?

  those 38 are not Democrats. They're delusional. Nothing with those guys moving forward. They make us look bad, okay? Those 18 Democrats are really not Democrats, they're Republicans.

• 33:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Who are not willing to leave the Democratic Party because of their fathers or their mothers, their loyalty to their family, like who? Joe Manchin is not a Democrat. He's a Republican. He's a center-right guy, okay? So then they have to sit there and say, okay, these are our people that we have to build up. And then you turn those guys into heroes, but they're uncomfortable doing that. Because here's a Joe Manchin guy you are a big fan of. You told me about Joe Manchin, what, four and a half years ago? Here's what Joe Manchin says about the pardoning and what he suggests Biden should do before he's out. Go ahead, Rob.

• 33:44Speaker 00

  As a father, I don't know if a father that wouldn't have done the same thing. What I would have done differently, my recommendations, the counsel would have been, why don't you go ahead and pardon Donald Trump for all his charges? And make it, you know, it'd been, it'd gone down a lot, a lot more balanced, if you will. I'm just saying, wipe them out.

• 34:00Speaker 04

  What do you think this does for his legacy?

• 34:02Speaker 00

  I don't know. From that standpoint, it makes it difficult.

• 34:07Patrick Bet-David?

  But you know what he sounds like? Well, you know what he sounds like?

• 34:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Like a reasonable.

• 34:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Like a reasonable dude saying that. So Dems need to restructure and get the hell away from the Jane Fonders, the Keith Olbermann. These weird people that you're giving a limelight to that are party or party, they're making you look bad.

• 34:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Like, but would you like, I'm trying to think of it as a, as a business plan, but the same token. How would you go like, who would be calling people like Keith Olbermann and be like, hey dude, we don't control you, shut the hell up and get your crazy ass, Rosie O'Donnell, stop making videos.

• 34:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't do it that way.

• 34:39Tom Ellsworth?

  You gotta stop them. These people can't help themselves, Pat. You nailed it. If they had like Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Stephen A., because what, a couple of articles came out a couple of days ago where they're like, the left is looking for a Joe Rogan on the left. You're not gonna find it when they have shit like that happening. Because these people cannot help themselves.

• 34:56Patrick Bet-David?

  You know who's a Joe Rogan of the left today? Bill Maher.

• 34:58Tom Ellsworth?

  I think so.

• 34:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Bill Maher, no, no.

• 35:00Tom Ellsworth?

  He's the guy.

• 35:01Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, he is the Joe Rogan of the left.

• 35:03Tom Ellsworth?

  But is he influential enough to move the vote like how?

• 35:07Patrick Bet-David?

  No, he's not as likable as Joe is and he's not as versatile as Joe is and Joe is not snobby. Joe is the guy sits across from you who knows he's smarter than you, but he won't, he won't make you look dumb.

• 35:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly.

• 35:18Patrick Bet-David?

  He's the guy that'll sit across from you and wants to make you look dumb. So it's not attractive. It's a different brand, but guess what? It's worked for him his entire life.

• 35:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Of course.

• 35:27Patrick Bet-David?

  It's worked for him. So for me, I think Bill Maher is the Joe Rogan of the left and he may not even like that. Like if you told Bill Maher, you're the Joe Rogan of the left. He's like, who the hell you think you are? I am the Bill Maher and Joe Rogan is the Bill Maher of me. Like I came before he came. That's what he's gonna be thinking about of himself.

• 35:45Speaker 00

  Or Jon Stewart. I would say that he's in that category as well.

• 35:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Jon is out though.

• 35:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, he's.

• 35:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Jon is not playing as aggressive as, Jon is kinda like at a phase of his life that he's not playing ball.

• 35:56Speaker 00

  Right. One day a week. I think you make up a great point. Where does the Democratic Party go from here? So what we're looking at right, right here with Jane Fonda, who's basically completely irrelevant these days. I mean, her name hasn't been mentioned other than the, uh, song about the big booty. My anaconda don't want none. Jane Fonda, you know that situation? But if you want a real life example of the, what you hear from the ivory tower coastal elite, you have Jane Fonda not even recognizing that LA or California might be a little bit to the left. Just a little bit. She's like, I don't, where are you even getting this from?

• 36:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, cause she's rich as hell. She lives in the hills.

• 36:30Speaker 00

  How are you completely that out of touch to use a Hall and Oates song right there? To not even recognize that LA and California might be just a little bit to the left on taxation, on regulation. Here's a story right here. We said what they wanna make a bathroom is gonna cost $2 million.

• 36:45Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, just watch this clip. Watch this clip when Bill asks about trans and then he suggests to her, the problem is Jane, you're only watching one thing. And then watch what she says at the end. Go ahead, Rob.

• 36:58Speaker 00

  You really think men can get pregnant? You know, that kinda stuff. And I understand that a trans woman can get pregnant. That's different than a man getting pregnant. And the way they sort of like insist on blurring that line is if that's some sort of reasonable social cause.

• 37:15Speaker 05

  I've never heard about men getting pregnant. I've never heard about this argument. It's, it must be some part of a, what you call the far left that is so miniscule that I, who am...

• 37:25Speaker 00

  No, Jane.

• 37:27Speaker 05

  What?

• 37:27Speaker 00

  It's not miniscule, and I'm sorry, you can't throw this back on us. It's, I assume it's because you are locked into media that just never, never wants anyone in their audience to know anything sketchy about the blue team.

• 37:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this.

• 37:44Speaker 05

  Well...

• 37:45Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's... Watch what she says. Credit to what she says here.

• 37:47Speaker 05

  I mean, I don't know, I read two papers and I...

• 37:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this, right here.

• 37:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, I, maybe I don't, I, I should watch Fox News.

• 37:54Speaker 00

  No, I, I don't.

• 37:56Tom Ellsworth?

  What does she, what does she read?

• 37:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Whatever, whatever.

• 37:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Wall Street Journal?

• 38:00Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but watch what happened, that's, this is actually a very, where we all go through this process at some point of our life, you just hope you don't go through it at 87 years old.

• 38:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 38:11Patrick Bet-David?

  She just went through it for the first time at 87.

• 38:13Tom Ellsworth?

  I saw it live, yeah.

• 38:15Speaker 00

  But this, this is, I, I'm so glad that you played this clip because it's so important because there's a lot of people out there, they're gonna have to go through this. I mean, you saw Sharon Stone last week basically saying that the average American's an idiot if they vote for Trump, they don't go on vacation, they don't experience the rest of the world. Most people can't. They don't have the type of money to just go travel Europe and gallivant all over the other side of the world. This is the whole concept of why you trot out Beyonce, Oprah, J Lo, they spent how much money on these people? Kamala's how much in debt? Twenty million dollars after blowing over a billion dollars?

• 38:46Tom Ellsworth?

  She texted me asking for money.

• 38:47Speaker 00

  And then this is the reason that you look, you look down on flyover country, this whole situation right here. That's why regular Americans, the Democratic Party, used to be the party of the unions and the workers and the working man and the middle class. Now they're the party of Jane Fonda, completely out of touch. It's just sad to see where this party is.

• 39:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me go to this next story here, let me go to this next story here, and, and, Tom, you're gonna, you're gonna give your feedback on this next story, where I'm going to next, you'll see. So, a couple things. You have a story here from George Clooney. Being angry at Barack Obama for Democrats election debacle. Okay, this is from Times Now. And then there's like three other stories like that. That are saying same thing, but let me just read this one with George Clooney. George Clooney reportedly felt betrayed by Barack Obama after the 2024 Democrats. Election loss believing Obama pushed him to criticize Joe Biden's leadership and then abandoned him. A source revealed George is livid with Obama for disappearing.

• 39:45Patrick Bet-David?

  After the election fallout Barack avoided publicly criticizing Biden to maintain his image. While George became the face of the strategy Clooney felt he was used. As a political pawn and blamed for the party's defeat in controversial op ed. Clooney questioned Biden's health and ability to read. Writing the Joe Biden I met recently isn't the same leader from 2010 or even 2020. He mirrored a man we saw at the debate a version that lacks the vitality. Needed to win in November published as Biden announced he wouldn't seek reelection and endorse Kamala Harris. The piece drew sharp criticism from Democratic supporters. And Hollywood peers by the way this continues Kamala Harris still begging for cash.

• 40:27Patrick Bet-David?

  After election loss and James Carville calls out audit for Harris's campaign spending. This is by the way, this continues. Major Democratic donor says Baron Trump is smarter than Kamala Harris's entire campaign. Rob, if you have that clip, it's one after another. Imagine you go from partying. With Obamas seeing with them at Como, Lake Como and all this other. To all of us on the story like this leaking out, we don't know if the source is correct or not, but it sounds pretty right. That Clooney came out and criticized Biden and here's a donor. Uh, saying what he's saying by the way, I, I, I thought he also did a great job on Cuomo's interviews. Well, but go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

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• 42:08Speaker 00

  Well, my reaction is, you know, she thinks she's Obama. She goes to Hawaii because Obama goes to Hawaii. She started talking like Obama, imitating Obama. She is not Barack Obama. She is, has no talent. She could never run for president again.

• 42:27Patrick Bet-David?

  She has no talent.

• 42:28Speaker 00

  She ran once and got zero delegates. She got 8% of California. I begged them not to put her up. She was going to be tethered to Biden no matter what. That was a zero-sum game for her. But she thought that all these votes were for her. They were not. The votes that she got were people voting against Trump. And the votes that Trump got were the people voting for Trump. What the Harris campaign should have done... Instead of avoiding Joe Rogan and podcasts, it turns out that Baron Trump, who looks like a runway model, was telling his father, you need to go on podcasts, you

• 43:13Speaker 00

  need to go on Joe Rogan. You know, he was three hours late to a rally because he was doing Joe Rogan because that was so important. So Baron Trump is a lot smarter than everybody in the Harris. They said they didn't. By the way, this is not, this is a former major Democratic.

• 43:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Thoughts on, thoughts on this?

• 43:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Boy, let's go top to bottom. I'm gonna go really quick through this and not be silverboasts. John Morgan is right, but now let's go upstream really, really fast. Kamala Harris is done. She's gonna get her book deal about how she ran for president. Somebody's gonna write her that check. Schuster or somebody on the liberal echo chamber bubble is gonna do it. Then she's gonna go out and do commencement sets HBCUs 200 grand apiece, which is rumored is what she's being offered for a commencement. So that's gonna happen. She's done. Forget about her. She is buried politically and that's where you will find her selling another book and doing speeches and things like that for people who are willing to pay her. Boom. Number one. Getting drunk.

• 44:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Number two, yeah, maybe so. Number two, George Clooney is right. Obama was hiding in the shadows and George Clooney and others were convinced to go out and be the verbal mouthpieces so that the politicians could come back to Joe. Joe, we're losing support. Look outside. Clooney is saying it. People are saying it. We need these people, Joe. Need them to support you. That gave, because otherwise Obama's gotta walk in and say, Joe, I think it's time to go. Now he's in conflict directly with Joe Biden. He didn't want that. Did Clooney get used? He absolutely got used and many other celebrities got used and

• 45:01Tom Ellsworth?

  paid, you know, to go do this. So that's true. The third thing is if you listen to Carville, Carville is right. There needs to be an audit of campaign spending because Carville's worried about the party and Carville, now I'll bring it home, Pat, Carville is worried about the John Morgans who feel that they got taken for a ride, that they put money in there, that he said, I didn't want that candidate, I went along with it, I did it. And so now it's all coming back where Carville wants to protect the brand. We heard Lou, I forget her first name, we talked about it on the last podcast where she said, Susan. Susan Lou, I find it unbelievable how they spent money and they were unaccountable.

• 45:43Tom Ellsworth?

  The DNC was trying to restore order, apparently in some level, and the campaign was out there spending money like drunken sailors and just out of control. Pat and I sat in Malibu, California, and heard a very measured, very good debate between Ed Gillespie, at that time head of the Republican Party, and Terry McAuliffe, at that point, very influential in the Democrat Party, and an ex-leader in the Clinton campaign. It was very, very balanced. I had a great conversation out by the pool for about 15 minutes afterwards with Terry McAuliffe, saying, have you ever voted for a Democrat? Yes, I did. Governor, there was a Bob Graham was the governor of Florida. I voted for him. I thought he was really good. I'm, I'm

• 46:25Tom Ellsworth?

  kind of open about this. And I take a look at those two leaders. If Terry McAuliffe had been a leader, or you had somebody like that had been a leader of the DNC, or on this campaign, this doesn't happen. But that's how I feel about it, point by point by point by point. This is a train wreck. And the rational voice is the guy that doesn't sound rational, because it's Carville trying to save the brand and the party to get ready for midterms in 2026. Well, James Carville has been sounding the alarm on what's going on in the

• 46:55Speaker 00

  Democratic Party for at least a year now, but everybody didn't want to listen.

• 46:57Tom Ellsworth?

  He sounds kind of like a madman a little bit.

• 46:59Speaker 00

  A little bit, but that's because he's the raging Cajun.

• 47:01Tom Ellsworth?

  But he's right.

• 47:02Speaker 00

  But here's the deal. You know how much sympathy and empathy I have for the people that have buyer's remorse? This much.

• 47:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Good, good.

• 47:08Speaker 00

  Sorry, guys.

• 47:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Sorry.

• 47:10Speaker 00

  You, you, you, you decided to go all in on this horrible candidate and now you want your money back? No, no, no, no, no. You know what you were purchasing? You know what you were donating to? You know what this was all about? Sorry, George Clooney. You can't just basically win and have the accolades and the flowers when you win. But then when you lose, you're like, oh my God, I was used. What happens when you won, buddy? That's number one. Number two, you know, when I started doing social media content, thanks to, you know, certain friends like PBD saying, get out there, do some stuff. I was doing a lot of money stuff. And I started interviewing all these people. All right. So you're saving, you're investing, you're budgeting, you're doing all these things. What's next? What's that? After you get to the pinnacle, what's next? And these very smart people, this state planning conference, they said, there's only one thing. It just comes down to legacy. And everything comes down to legacy. So if you're looking at Joe Biden right now,

• 47:55Speaker 00

  you, you talk about a lame duck presidency. I mean, we're, we're 50 days out until Trump's second term. There's 50, he's had a career spanning 50 years. This is now his legacy. Usually a lot of these stories, they basically come and go over the weekend and that's it. That's it. We move on to the next story. I think this is going to basically stick to Joe Biden like flies on, you know what? Because this is his, his legacy. You said it before, Vinny. He came into power in 2020 on the heels of the Hunter biting laptop. We all knew what happened. What was going on that suppression and all that? And he's exiting stage left in a lame duck presidency, pardoning Hunter Biden after, you see the montage out there? No one's above the law. I'll never, Corrine Jean-Pierre is basically like, she should never show her face again at this point.

• 48:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Full of crap.

• 48:39Speaker 00

  Everybody knows that he's basically was lying. Everyone wants accountability. That's what's going on there. And then to Pat's point, where the hell does the Democratic Party go from here? It has to go from the inside out, not the outside in. But enough with the celebrities. Nobody gives a s. Okay. Start well within, start families, middle class, working people. Cause if you look to the coastal elites and the Hollywood and the universities, you go woke, you go broke.

• 49:02Tom Ellsworth?

  But Adam, I don't see it happening. I, I think the left is, is a cancer. It's a poison. And these people cannot help themselves. They're not going to change. They could pretend and they have the Bill Maher stuff.

• 49:12Speaker 00

  They can't, and I'm just telling you right now, Joe Biden will go down as the worst president. Who, who would you say is up there, Tom? Who's, who do people say is the worst president of the United States of all time? Who's number one?

• 49:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think a lot of people point to economic impact and they'll point to there's some real oldies in there that did nothing, but Jimmy Carter's Jimmy Carter's, Jimmy Carter's bad. The thing he said, I think we're just in a malaise like, and he doubted the American people. That was very insulting to them. He was a good man, but a terrible leader and therefore a terrible president.

• 49:41Speaker 00

  And that's, that's, that's into comedy side. Joe Biden has the economy. He has the border. He has these deaths on his hands. He has corruption. He has his crackhead degenerate son. He'll go down as the worst president in the history of this country. Period. End of story. Done deal. And they're never going to change. They'll never change. They can't help themselves.

• 49:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I mean, we'll see what's going to happen here. And I think right now as they're going through the rebranding and who's going to be the next person to come out and help. AOC for president in 2028. Furious speculation sweeps social media that the squad member could be running in 2028. Okay. Now, AOC, how old is AOC right now, Rob? If you can pull up to see what her age is.

• 50:21Speaker 00

  I'm like, I guess.

• 50:21Patrick Bet-David?

  AOC social media and insider discussion speculate AOC a squad member for guess a Democrat. Yeah, and Democrat might run for 2028, first election where she will meet the constitutional age of 35 years old. Former Congressman Matt Gaetz claimed Alex has told people she's running in 2028 since 2019. AOC's names appear among potential Democratic contenders like Harris, Pete, Whitmer, Newsom, and a few others. Critics and supporters debate AOC's chances with Bhaskar Sunkara suggesting it would be better for the left to run on labor leader with broader appeal than an already polarizing figure leftist.

• 51:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Podcaster Matthew Sittman opined, if AOC runs, she's going to get absolutely smoked. While David Sirota warned her campaign could falter if run by DC career risks, AOC's alignment with Bernie Sanders leftist policies and her outsider status remains points of contention. Tom?

• 51:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you have to understand how you run. You run in the primary system and now we know that Bernie Sanders was absolutely screwed in South Carolina.

• 51:32Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 51:32Tom Ellsworth?

  So you have to remember it's Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina. For those, for those of you who've been watching, you can pay attention to how the primary schedules have been manipulated in the last two elections. Or no primary at all because our guy Joe doesn't need one. So, watch what the DNC does. If the mainstream DNC moves the primaries a little bit and puts any dark blues up there, then they're opening the door for AOC. She cannot start in Iowa, go to New Hampshire, and then go to South Carolina and get momentum. That individual is correct. She will get smoked early on that because she needs to get to a California, she needs to get to a New York, she needs to get to a Michigan in the primary. You see what I mean?

• 52:17Tom Ellsworth?

  To have momentum and headlines. Oh my gosh, she won a big state, she won this in a primary. So, I believe that her ideology is wrong for the mainstream. However, she knows how to turn a line, she is telegenic, she is powerful at the microphone, she will be the kind of TV podcast candidate that can really carry the branding and the message. But the way those primaries are set up in the DNC, they will set that up to have Newsom or Whitmer or somebody they think is more bankable because the DNC selects a candidate and then sets up the trap doors and the stairs on the primary system. Adam. I mean, this is the continuing problem with the Democratic Party is that rather than

• 53:01Tom Ellsworth?

  searching for something in the middle, something that is relevant to all Americans, you're going to New York, Bronx, Queens, woke leftist and being like, come on, you got this thing, AOC. I mean, this is the person who basically, I think she removed her gender pronouns somewhat recently, maybe she brought them back, but it's completely- No, she did. Did she bring them back? No. She didn't? She said they, they took a, since they took a walk. I'm sorry to hear that for, on her behalf. So, this comes down to a conversation that we continually have. What's more important, personality or policy? I would say personality is. This is what basically will get her sort of-

• 53:38Speaker 00

  of in the conversation. But once she gets on the debate stage, once there's actually even a primary in the Democratic Party, all her horrible ideas are going to be exposed. You saw what she did with Tom Homan when she tried to grill this guy, a professional on the border. And she's like, well, you're you're separating children from their parents. He's like, yeah, that's exactly what happens when they commit a crime, whether they're a legal status or not. That's what happens when you commit a crime. So ultimately, will the Twitter world and the social media world basically catapult her to stardom? Sure. But when when stuff hits the fan and she has to actually debate her ideas, she's going to get smoked. Why would she want to run for president?

• 54:20Speaker 00

  In 2019, she said, the world's going to end in 12 years through the climate change. So it'd be a waste of time if you ask me, why would she even want to run? The world's we're not going to be here.

• 54:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, there's Well, we have the Plan B. When you think about, when you think about serious, when you think about possibilities, when you think about, you know, potential, here's what the reality is. She is running because of the Democratic Party. Meaning, Trump ran because of the Republican Party. Trump ran because the establishment right was screwing things up. Trump ran because of Karl Rove. Trump ran because of all those establishment guys that are like, they're not going to let him run. Who the hell you think you are? You're you're you're not going to be able to come and tell us that you're going to be the person that's going to be running? We decide who runs. No, you don't. It's called capitalism.

• 55:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm going to come in and do whatever I want to do based on the laws that are created for me to be able to run for office in America. My name is Donald J. Trump. I'm running. I'm coming down the escalator and I'm running. Okay, we're going to fix the border. We're going to get rid of these criminals, these rapists, and it's going to piss you off. Here's what we're going to be doing. Ready? Invite me to your show, CNN, MSNBC, here's what we're going to be doing. We're going to make America great again. And hey, so right now, out of everybody that has the highest chance of winning, who do you think is the one with the most likely of winning? Uh, Trump and Coulter on Bill Maher. You're out of your mind. George Clooney, he will never be, I mean, what are we talking about? He will never be the president. Nancy Pelosi, he's he's he's not going to be a president.

• 55:53Patrick Bet-David?

  At least I will go down as a president. Yeah. Uh, loser. None of that stuff worked. Mm-hmm. And the same is for AOC. AOC is the same. She's got twelve, twelve point eight million followers on, on Twitter. AOC's got a real following. And the market can tell you whatever they want to tell you. But she is popular amongst the youth. And they're getting older. And AOC herself, if she's able to watch the mistakes that Bernie made. She has to watch Bernie's mistakes. There's a reason why Bernie is not a president today. And never will be. Bernie, he missed his chance.

• 56:40Patrick Bet-David?

  She has to sit there and say, well, what adjustments would I make? That's the case study she has to study on Bernie. Now, uh, at the same time, she's gonna be coming in, going up against one of the most formidable candidates that we're gonna have in 2028. Who she's not gonna be able to beat. You know who that guy is? J D Vance. Now, you're not gonna be beating J D Vance. Vivek. Uh, her debating J D, not gonna happen. No. Her debating Vivek, not gonna happen. Her debating a lot of people, it's not gonna happen. But does that mean she can't run? She is very formidable. I'm telling you, she's marketable, she's formidable, she's attractive. I think a couple of things will hurt her. I mean, people are gonna judge me on this and get upset and go, I can't believe you just said what you just said. Next four years, does she have any kids?

• 57:25Patrick Bet-David?

  She getting married? She gonna have any family? She not gonna do that? I don't know. America's going back to wanting to have kids and having families again. It's the women on the left that don't wanna do it. But most Americans wanna have kids. They wanna go back to, so what am I doing here right now, wasting my life? This feminist movement didn't work. Mm-hmm. That is not gonna work today like it did forty years ago. It's just not because, you know, when first everybody started using steroids? You know what we didn't have when steroids first came out? Decades of research of what it could do to you. Do you know what happens the moment there was decades of research of abuse with steroids? People stopped doing it. Bodybuilders dying between thirty-five to forty-five years old. Why are they dying? Now we have research. You know why at first feminism was attractive? Cause it was a, okay, yeah, makes sense. Yeah, I'm a feminist and we can beat these men.

• 58:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Sixty years later, guess what? Uh, I'm lonely with my cat, no kids, no husband, and I'm sitting here watching a view with a bunch of miserable people that are all single, no kids, nothing. Do I want that life? I don't want that life. Maybe I screwed up. If she makes a couple of adjustments and gets the right people in her ears and she goes on podcasts and trains herself, like the next year and a half, which what would do well for her is to go on podcasts that disagree with her and hang.

• 58:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Two hours. Do fifty of them. Do a hundred of them the next two years to get yourself tougher. That's what Vivek did. And every time Vivek would come, okay, interesting. Boom, boom, boom. Tighten the messaging. RFK, boom, boom, boom. Tighten messaging. Trump, boom, boom, boom. Tighten the messaging. If she really needs to run, don't start doing podcasts in two years. Start doing podcasts now, like right off the bat. Go do podcasts next two years. Go to everybody and see how you perform there and she'll get her argument tighter. And if she is able to come a little bit further right from being far left, maybe she'll be marketable, but we'll see what she'll do. But anyways.

• 59:22Tom Ellsworth?

  One thing to keep in mind, before she can get to debate of Vivek or JD, she's gonna have to basically get past her own party. I believe that 2028 is gonna be the Democratic version of what the Republicans did in 2016. You know, how many candidates were on stage with Trump? Sixteen candidates, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. They're gonna have to recalibrate and have a debate, a good old fashioned debate of ideas and let the best man or woman win. Because at the.

• 59:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, we gotta go to the next.

• 59:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, Adam, what is a woman?

• 59:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I thought you were gonna.

• 59:50Tom Ellsworth?

  What is a woman?

• 59:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to the next story. All right, so boom, I said that already. Boom, boom, boom. Uh, what's the next? So let's go to the next story here. Uh, Adam's been Googling a lot lately. And I'm trying, I'm trying to get him. I mean, if there's one thing he does, he Googles. But when it comes on to the ladies, he does not Google. He's a chat GPT guy. Uh, Googling is for old people and that's a problem for Google. Okay, according to Wall Street Journal. Folks, if you're Googling, stop. Okay, honestly, stop. It's not cool anymore. Let's read the story here. Google faces growing threats. to its dominance with younger generation turning to platforms like Amazon and TikTok where 23% of users conduct searches with 30 seconds of opening the app. AI-powered answer engines such as ChatGPT with integrated internet search are also

• 1:00:33Patrick Bet-David?

  competing with NYU professor Melissa Schilling noting AI is to search what e-commerce was to Walmart. One more time, AI is to search engine what e-commerce was to Walmart. Wow, exactly. The rise of AI-generated content is degrading and the quality of web search results in Google's AI-driven summaries while innovative reduce traffic to external websites. George Klugman from Finestra warned that as web traffic declines, the incentive to produce content diminishes, asking, what does that mean for all the websites we have out there? Tom?

• 1:01:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, this is absolutely correct. And so the headline is Googling is for old people. That's a problem for Google. What it should say is, search is in the middle of a natural product lifecycle. What happened to the minivan? It went away and we have crossovers and larger SUVs providing us more utility and you really don't want to go buy a minivan. They're out there, but they're not selling the way they were in the 80s and early 90s. So now, search is having a natural lifecycle. Where does Google get their search information, Vinnie? They scrape the web and websites. And what this guy is saying is fewer websites make rich content. That's less for Google to scrape and have smart responses for you. Instead,

• 1:01:52Tom Ellsworth?

  they're using AI against the libraries that are inside TikTok. So it is a generational thing. The younger generation is using TikTok. TikTok says, hey, if people want to search for things, what is the objective? Long session time. Hey, we got to put search in here. We don't want them leaving to go to somewhere else. We want them to stay in TikTok, watch more videos, so we can make money. Guess what? We could do some search, Vinnie. Let's do it. Let's let them search things. And that's what's happening. And this is, so one of the things here is AI is to search what e-commerce was to Walmart. Well, there still is a Walmart, but there's a hell of a lot of Amazon. If you look at the boxes that stack up three days after Black Friday on your street and what's on everybody's porches. And so-

• 1:02:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Search is having a natural progression of product lifecycle and people that don't want customers to leave their sites are doing everything they can to add search to keep them. Like Amazon and TikTok are doing that very, very well. And so now it's up to Google. Do they respond like a capitalist and keep themselves relevant and adjust their content? Or do they let the newer generation get seed, newer generation of consumers get seized and held by other people? This is a capitalist war and it's good.

• 1:03:06Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, look at this here. Estimated share of US search advertising revenue from 2018 to today, Google was 60%, where at the time, Amazon was 10%. Google is now at 48%. Amazon is at 24%. Amazon went up 140%. Google dropped 20%, okay? They're at 48.3%. Yes. And then Microsoft is going lower. Apple is gradually going up. And then there's the other. Rob, do they have anything there with ChatGPT or no? In regards to the traffic? I noticed on the article at the bottom, they didn't have anything. Can you just control?

• 1:03:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you do Ctrl F ChatGPT and see what shows up? Okay, what does it say? The second thread is a rise of answer engines like Perplexity, which well, do they say on the time, OpenAI has added Inner Search to ChatGPT meta platforms, exploring, building its own search engine, and even AI chatbots that can't search the internet are proven increasingly capable at addressing many questions. Interesting that you're saying they scrape and the fact that people are no longer like blogging used to be a thing. Can you, can you type, Rob? Like, history of volume of blogging? What's the word to put? History on, yeah, let's

• 1:04:30Patrick Bet-David?

  see what comes up. And then go to images. See if it shows us on how much blogging happens. What is the right word to type? History of total blogs being written? Maybe that's what it is? I don't know. I'm wondering if you go to images, if I go, I want to see that number.

• 1:04:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, the blog kind of became a podcast, right? Personal. Substack.

• 1:04:51Patrick Bet-David?

  But that, oh, is that it, Rob?

• 1:04:53Tom Ellsworth?

  No, that's average word.

• 1:04:54Patrick Bet-David?

  For blog posts. Well, that's also part of it. It can. That's, that's, that's, that's a part of it. Watch that. That's from when though, is that it doesn't say timeline. Two thousand nineteen, beginning of two thousand nineteen to the end of two thousand nineteen. Average word count for blog posts written in twenty nineteen from the beginning to the end. Hundred and forty seven, hundred fifty, hundred eighty. Oh, my God, it got to two hundred thousand? What is that? No, I think what this is saying, no, I think what this is saying is, it's saying, how many word count was the most words written per article and the most is, twelve thirty one to thirteen fifty one is what it's saying. That was the one that people wrote the most. What I'm trying to find out is, is blogging dead is what I'm asking.

• 1:05:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Cause blogging, what, what you don't, what you don't get is, personality when somebody writes. You can get a little bit, but not a lot of it, right? You know, when they say communication, it's seven percent written. Uh, uh, what, what is the seven thirty eight fifty five? Can you type into seven thirty eight fifty five? You know which one, which one it is. Nonverbal communication. Yeah, I think seven thirty eight fifty five rule. If you type in seven thirty, seven percent of meaning is conveyed through spoken words, thirty eight percent through tone of voice, fifty five percent through body language. You don't have body language in blog and you don't have voice and tone in, in blog. Words you do seven out of a hundred.

• 1:06:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Blogging is dead and if they can't scrape for the articles. You know, I mean, that's, uh, go ahead. There's that voice and tone and when someone calls you dear and then you don't know how to respond. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? What's going on there? Yeah. But you know what this story reminds me of about how, um, Googling is for old people? Uh, what's the story we covered the one day is that the one constant has changed. I think if you go back in the, the history of the Fortune five hundred companies and you go back to nineteen fifties, I want to say, only ten percent of the Fortune five hundred companies that were within the top five hundred still even exist at this point. Right, Pat? So all.

• 1:06:57Tom Ellsworth?

  These companies that are basically crushing it, delivering it, Fortune 500 companies, 50 years later, don't even exist. So if you're not basically updating yourself, what do we say around here, outwork, outprove, outstrategize, outlast? You also have to do that as a company. It's not just for a person, it's for a company. So what's the whole joke with Facebook? Oh, my grandma's on Facebook, so I don't even want to be on Facebook. Is Google becoming the new Facebook for search engines? We see what's going on with ChatGPT and the chatbots and AI, what's going on with that? TikTok, I think TikTok is the most searched platform that for Gen Z, is that what it is?

• 1:07:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:33Tom Ellsworth?

  They use TikTok. By the way, just quick note, what's going on with TikTok? I thought they were shutting, had to sell, what's going on with all that? Now that Trump's coming to the office, is he gonna do something?

• 1:07:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Apparently TikTok CEO had a call with Elon Musk. Can you type in TikTok CEO Elon Musk? TikTok CEO Elon Musk, and if you go to news, uh, yeah, right there, that's the first one. TikTok CEO reaching out to Elon Musk for information on Trump presidency.

• 1:07:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Is that Elizabeth Pippco right there, by the way?

• 1:08:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Save the popular TikTok as Chinese-owned video-sharing site faces a ban following the law, signed by Biden. It is Pippco. And if you go a little bit lower, it's Musk endorses Trump last one. Okay, it's an older, so yeah, they reached out to have a conversation because they're trying to get closer. But TikTok is not in a bad place as it was two years ago, not with Trump.

• 1:08:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Why is that?

• 1:08:26Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not. One of the bigger investors in TikTok is a friend. And TikTok on the, on the inside, like even when he talked to Charlie Kirk when he was here on the podcast, he talked about what he did with TikTok. He got ahold of the executive and whatever, some of the marketing team that he had a call with. He told him what works, what doesn't work. Even Charlie Kirk blew up on TikTok. Charlie's got probably 20 videos on TikTok, over 20 million views on his account. So TikTok also adjusted.

• 1:08:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, but that, that doesn't negate the fact that they've been spying and collecting data from Americans and they're still owned by the CCP. How is this story basically just coming and going and not that you're

• 1:09:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Doing anything wrong here, Pat, but this was a major story that they were gonna have to divest or sell and now it's just a non-issue. This conversation should happen again with TikTok, no?

• 1:09:15Tom Ellsworth?

  It's probably gonna happen after you get to.

• 1:09:17Patrick Bet-David?

  The part that's kinda weird, Tom, is the fact that Musk, think about Musk selfishly. Does Musk want TikTok to do well or do bad? No, it's a competitive platform. But you know what it is? TikTok CEO feels comfortable enough to talk to Musk? So, I don't know. Maybe Musk is country over competition? Who knows? But all I'm saying is, I don't think we know the whole story on what's going on with TikTok, on the relationships on the inside. Tom, you were gonna say something, I'm gonna move on to the next.

• 1:09:51Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I was gonna say, getting back to your original question on Google, it's, hey, capitalism works, man. Nokia was building phones and they were number one for a long time. They didn't adapt and change. And now Android and Apple destroyed them, starting in 2006. It's coming up on 20 years. I mean, Nokia is still around, but a shell of their older self. Chrysler is now called Stellantis and you know, you saw what happened with minivans. This just shows capitalism works, but when we're seeing it in the social media and we're seeing it with new, it's interesting. We think, Pat, of tech companies as young and hip. You don't realize how old Google really is and that they are coming up on lifestyle things.

• 1:10:33Tom Ellsworth?

  And same thing that Facebook, everybody was like, wow, are you kidding me? Yeah, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18-year-old kids were not on Facebook. They weren't banking profiles. No, my mom did that and I was on there when I was a kid and in Little League and soccer, my mom used to put my thing, that's my mom's thing, that's not for me. We're forgetting that new generations are coming up with new preferences and old products are having their lifecycle moments. And that's what's, that's what's happening here. And along the way. Players that are not playing well, like TikTok, are gonna have their hearings and we're gonna find out what happens to them.

• 1:11:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep. And by the way, talking about social media, very interesting what they did in Australia. No social media for anyone under the age of 16. What to know about Australia's new ban. Rob, if you have the clip on this. A ban on social media for children under 16, which drew criticism from social media companies and leaders passed the Australian Senate on Thursday, posing to become the first, uh, world's first law designed to keep children off social media. The ban, which would allow Australia to fine companies for not preventing children from the age of 16 having accounts, passes 34 to 19. I mean, that's like a overwhelming victory on Thursday. After passing the House 102 to 13 on Tuesday, according to Associated Press. It's expected quickly to become law

• 1:11:52Patrick Bet-David?

  when it will give social media companies one year to prevent those under the age of limit, underage limit from having accounts or otherwise risk being fined. You ready? Thirty-three million dollars per.

• 1:12:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you hear that?

• 1:12:05Tom Ellsworth?

  For what?

• 1:12:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Per each account that they allow this to happen is 33 million dollars per.

• 1:12:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Whoa.

• 1:12:11Patrick Bet-David?

  She'll break you down. Critics of the bill and the government expressed concerns it was rushed. And one independent lawmaker said it was a blunt instrument that would not actually hold social media companies accountable. Go ahead, Rob, play this clip.

• 1:12:22Speaker 00

  Social media has a social responsibility. We know they can and should do better to address harms on their platforms. That's why we're making big changes to hold platforms to account for user safety. The Online Safety Amendment, Social Media Minimum Age Bill 2024, will amend the Online Safety Act 2021 by introducing a minimum age of 16 to have an account on age-restricted social media platforms, protecting young Australians at a critical stage of their development. The bill puts the onus on social media platforms, not parents or young people, to take reasonable steps to ensure fundamental protections are in place.

• 1:13:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, thoughts on this?

• 1:13:10Tom Ellsworth?

  So there's two parts to this. First of all, I worry whenever a government says that the onus is on the company, not the parents or the young people. There's gotta be parents involved here. So that worries me. However, the logic that Australia used was kids were distracted in the classroom and it was very difficult to control them. Asking them to put their phones aside was resulting in videos where students were very upset with their teachers. There was an ongoing stress through constant comparison that they said was not healthy for girls 13 to 15 as they're developing. And there were girls hurting themselves as the more shy and more quieter by personality

• 1:13:53Tom Ellsworth?

  were under the stress of this comparison, actually hurting themselves. And there was more than enough, and we've got evidence of this, actually, every country in the world who cares to look, there's a lot of predators that are out there. And so, you know, they're saying, okay, enough is enough. We, the government, are taking steps. Now, I think there should be parental controls in place and parental involvement, and parents should be making decisions, because I do disagree with Australia saying, "We will put the onus on the social media companies, not the parents and not the young people." That there is a liberal trope about how we at the government know better than you do. And I think that's kinda dangerous, but you can't argue with the logic of all the consequences

• 1:14:37Tom Ellsworth?

  that they've seen among the youth.

• 1:14:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, how do you process this? I think it's, and you know how I stand with the, with the social media, with the kids and the phones and the, just, you know, watching how, you know, how you are with the kids with, like, I, I am pro letting them live their lives, go out, play, meet people, do the thing I think social media at a young age is messed up. But this is Australia we're talking about, like, let's not, if they care so much about the kids, look at what they made them go through during the COVID lockdown with the schools, man, and the mask. I saw videos of them shoving masks on this kid, the kids are crying, and then vaccines and all that stuff. So I, I think it's a good idea, their track record isn't that good, but, you know, A, I don't have any kids, but the same token, I wouldn't want them rotting their brains on social media at a young age.

• 1:15:18Tom Ellsworth?

  I think sixteen is a good age where you're like, okay, I've lived my life. I know how to meet friends. I know how to socially interact with people, Tom. I know how to talk to people. I went, I went to a restaurant this weekend. It was Umberto's birthday. I'm going to a restaurant and the whole, everybody is just, everybody was on a different social media app. The mom was on TikTok, the father was on TikTok. Nobody was talking to each other. The kid, I didn't hear one, I mean, people weren't complaining because they're like, dude, thank God the kids aren't making noises. Not one peep from anybody at that table. And there was another table and they were all on TikTok, just like this, like zombies. Nobody was talking. I think it's actually a good idea to keep it, keep it to sixteen. I think at the end of the day, uh, young people need to prioritize socializing over social media. How many young people do we meet that can't even look you in the eye and shake your hand? Or they give you one of these dead fish things?

• 1:16:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Or, you know, you've seen a whole table of dinner and then everyone's just kind of sitting here like this. I love the fact that we have dinners now. We actually have to put our phones away. Hot route right there, but you know, Ron DeSantis came, uh, about what, six months, a year ago? Had a new law in Florida. You have to be at least fourteen years old to start a social media account unless the parent authorizes this. Now, uh, Australia is pushing it out to sixteen, a little, um, uh, on the older end of this. But then you juxtapose that with, when you ask, and you poll young people, what do you want to be when you grow up? What do they all say? I want to be a YouTuber. I want to be a TikToker. I want to be an influencer. So how are you going to basically stop young people from accessing social media? Are you giving them phones?

• 1:16:47Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, my, my nephew, he's twelve years old. He has an Apple Watch. Do any of your kids have a phone yet? Tico has not, none of them have a phone. So this comes down to, Tom, as you said, parenting. What are the parenting comfortable with? I have a good buddy of mine. I won't mention his name. He's going through a little situation with his wife right now and the kids. And the oldest kid, I think he's like ten years old. All he does is do this on, on his phone, on his phone. And he's posting clips to, to YouTube. And I'm like, you gotta stop your kid from doing this. He's like, I can't, there's a restraining order. There's all this issue going on, but I'm looking at the, at the guy basically melt. Because he can't stop his son from basically doing all this nonsense on social media. Cause the wife is totally cool with it. So this is the conversation that needs to happen.

• 1:17:32Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think? I have a fifteen year old and he is not on any social media platforms. We take his phone. I took what you did with.

• 1:17:40Speaker 00

  I know that you have a role with your children where they have to read in order for them to get things. We started doing that with my son. He has to do 30 minutes of yoga. He has to do 30 minutes on the treadmill. Then he can have his cellphone, but his cellphone doesn't have any apps on it that are tied to social media. So the only things that he can really do on the phone is text his mother and I and make phone calls to his friends. Otherwise, they get in that doom scroll where they'll just continue to scroll and scroll and scroll. And it drives me nuts. And I, I agree. I saw, I went to a restaurant with my family and saw the same thing Vinnie did. You look around, every single person, they just hand the phones to the kids. Because it's an easier way for parents to parent instead of actually doing the hard work of parenting.

• 1:18:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, Tom calls it what? The electronic pacifier. Just, I don't want to deal with you.

• 1:18:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you, are you good with it being illegal?

• 1:18:22Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:18:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Why?

• 1:18:24Speaker 00

  I, I agree with Tom. Too much government overreach. I would prefer to force parents to do the job of parenting. And if they don't want to do that job of parenting, then there's going to be ramifications that are going to affect their children. That they're going to have to deal with for the rest of their lives. Look at Hunter Biden is a prime example of somebody who was babied his entire life. Was given a silver platter and now look what he does. He gets a pardon for doing all of these things. It's just, it's starting a bad trend for kids and parents.

• 1:18:49Patrick Bet-David?

  So when, when is, when is law good? Is, is laws always bad? Like for example, should we make cigarettes available to kids under the age of 18? It's unhealthy to smoke cigarettes, right? Should we allow kids to smoke cigarettes under the age of 18? Should we allow kids to be able to drink alcohol under the age of 18? Should we allow kids to? Because the, the, some may say, well, no, cigarettes is actually in health. It's, it's bad for your health. And drinking is bad for your health. Social media is actually bad for your health because interaction with other human beings is part of your health.

• 1:19:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You being addicted to a mechanism is a form of a health, uh, uh, what do you call it? Uh, issue, right? So I'm, I'm just trying to play the devil's advocate to, to play the argument that somebody may say, okay, you want to be the guy that you're worried about overreach? Great. Why don't we just remove age categories on cigarettes and alcohol, Tom? Why don't we do that? What do you say to that person?

• 1:19:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's two sides to it. First of all, um, once the research is apparent, this is the role of government. Government is to build a border and protect that border, to protect you from known threats. And once we discovered what we discovered, that Chesterfield that had been paying doctors, they're saying, "My doctor smokes Chesterfield and it says it contained vitamins." That was an ad that the industry actually did. And so, once you know that it causes cancer and emphysema and, and, and all these things, then you say, "Okay, if you're 21, you can do it, but no kids, no advertising it in your schools." There was all those things that, that they did that, because they would take Joe Camel,

• 1:20:39Tom Ellsworth?

  an animated camel, and tried to make him look appealing and interesting and fun like Disney, and he was Joe Cool, and trying to attract kids to smoke. So those laws become good. Alcohol, we go nationwide now at 21. That's good, because we see limits. The information now is there, and so why not having a broad-based law about the age for social media, now that we understand the consequences? The same thing that we have for guns and alcohol. And guess what? Parents that don't control the access to guns have been brought into court. Parents that allowed kids to drink, or enabled them to drink,

• 1:21:21Tom Ellsworth?

  when a kid gets drunk and does something, are brought into court. So it's not a bad thing when the government says, "The common good, that there's enough information here, that we need to go and put, and put a law in place." What bothers me about Australia is the quote saying, "The onus is not on the parents..."

• 1:21:43Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I'm with that there. I'm with that there.

• 1:21:44Tom Ellsworth?

  That quote flips me out.

• 1:21:46Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I'm with that there.

• 1:21:46Tom Ellsworth?

  But government making limits and guarding those limits is not necessarily a bad thing.

• 1:21:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm with that. All I'm trying to say, because to me, if it's overreach, well then, guess what? Parent better so your kids don't smoke cigarettes. Parent better so your kids don't buy alcohol. Why don't you go parent better? This is the part where I think a debate between the two with arguments and stats. When I read "Anxious Generation," written by a guy on the left, who agreed that conservatives raise better kids than... The left does conservatives raise happier healthier kids than the left do. Every parent should read this book anxious generation every parent. I read it and I told everybody around me to read it to the point that guys this what's weird. Every year I hold a insurance conference. Uh, that's only for CEOs of major insurance companies and executives of major insurance companies.

• 1:22:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I've been doing this since 2015. Every year I give them a gift. Okay, every single year I give them a gift. I gave the Buffett letters. I gave God knows how many different things I've given over the years. Tom, you've been a part of many of these when I'm giving these gifts out. You know what book I'm giving to all the executives this week? It's this week. What's this week? Is it Thursday or Friday? Thursday this week, yeah. I'm giving them the book anxious generation. So I think every one of them directly and indirectly is dealing with this with kids. I don't know. I think there's a part of me that sits there and says, you know, um. It's a hey dad, I want to be able to drive at 12 years old. No, the law says 16. But I want to drive at 12. No, the law says 16. What a bad father you are. If it wasn't a law, maybe you would drive, but the law says 16. So say there's not a law for driving.

• 1:23:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Dad, can I drive Joey's dad lets him drive at 12? Uh, no, in this family, it's 17. You're a horrible father. Mary's mom allows her to drive at 13. If there's not a law, I think the law part. I don't know. I, I, I don't know. I, I get kids that come over to the house and I just watch them. They drive me insane. When I watch them glued to their deal. It's insane. First of all, it's disrespectful when you're sitting there with somebody you're talking to. They're on the phone the entire time. Okay, man. Hello. Yeah, I'm here. McFly, I'm here. Yeah. There's people around you. Hello, Tom. Hello, Vinnie. Hello, Pat. Hello, come on, guys, come on.

• 1:24:05Patrick Bet-David?

  We got versus set them aside. Let's talk your force. And even when we're there, when the phone's not next to us, what do we do? You notice we go like this? Oh, your, your, your brain is like, I can't wait to look at it. I don't think this is just a kid's thing. I think this is also hurting adults. Yeah. Um, it's a real thing. I don't know. I'm, I'm, I'm a, I'm a little bit with. Creating a way for guidelines to be created for parents and social media companies to not target kids. I'm, I'm, I'm partly there. How old are you when you got your first phone? 22. Okay, that was a, that was.

• 1:24:39Speaker 00

  Wasn't even a smartphone, it's a regular old phone.

• 1:24:41Patrick Bet-David?

  That was the old snake game, whatever the snake game was.

• 1:24:44Speaker 00

  On Nokia, okay.

• 1:24:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, on Nokia.

• 1:24:46Speaker 00

  And Vinny, how old were you?

• 1:24:47Tom Ellsworth?

  When I got my first phone. Shoot, I think like went out late, really late.

• 1:24:53Speaker 00

  Just looking for a number here, buddy.

• 1:24:54Tom Ellsworth?

  That's late.

• 1:24:55Speaker 00

  Sixteen, Tom?

• 1:24:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Seventeen, I don't know.

• 1:24:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Six years old.

• 1:24:59Speaker 00

  No, no, no.

• 1:25:00Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm on a calculator instead of a pacifier.

• 1:25:02Speaker 00

  My first phone was almost $2,000 and it was installed in my car when I was twenty.

• 1:25:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Gangster.

• 1:25:11Speaker 00

  Six.

• 1:25:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, hair waving in the wind.

• 1:25:13Speaker 00

  Long time ago, Tom.

• 1:25:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Women all over him.

• 1:25:15Speaker 00

  Rob, how old were you?

• 1:25:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Sixteen.

• 1:25:17Speaker 00

  Okay, so we all got our first phones when we were eighteen, sixteen, twenty, twenty-two somehow, Tom, whatever age you were. This is exactly what we're talking about right now, is that we're not even getting access to any of the kids. We all got this when we, first smartphone I got, I think was smartphone, 2008? Okay, so now you're, you're born. Imagine Dylan, hey, what's up? I'm a youngster, six years old, boom, phone in my hand. Imagine what kind of issues this can create for young boys, for young girls, what's going on there? And the parents are just enabling them?

• 1:25:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:49Speaker 00

  Nah, as long as you can, make, keep kids away from social media.

• 1:25:54Patrick Bet-David?

  If I had my way, I would find a way to get DeSantis to ban you from having a phone, but that's, that's a different story. It's better for society. From having a phone.

• 1:26:01Speaker 00

  Utes? What is a ute?

• 1:26:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Different conversation to have. Utes, youts.

• 1:26:07Tom Ellsworth?

  The two what?

• 1:26:08Patrick Bet-David?

  The youts out there. By the way, why don't we help some people find $2 million? Is that okay with you?

• 1:26:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's do it.

• 1:26:12Patrick Bet-David?

  A Bitcoin millionaire hid $2 million in treasure across the US. Here's how to find them. Let me read the story to him. I want to go to Vinny. John Collins Black, inspired by his love of fantasy and famous Forrest fan, treasure hunt, has hidden five treasure chests across the US worth $2 million. His book, There Is Treasure Inside, provides all the clues you need to locate the chest. Which are custom designed puzzle boxes containing rare collectibles, historical artifacts, and valuable items such as a brooch once owned by Jackie Onassis, a 96 karat emerald, and Wilma Rudolph's 1960 Olympic gold medal. The treasure hunt is designed to be accessible and safe, requiring no dangerous exploration or digging.

• 1:26:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Collins Black Asher participants, anyone of average health can travel to these sites. Emphasize that the chests are not on private property. Thousands of treasure hunters have joined online forums like Discord to collaborate on solving the clue. Vinnie.

• 1:27:09Tom Ellsworth?

  What I mean, what I, when I first heard it, I was like, oh, let's just get a van, Pat, let's get out there and go. And then I saw the book and I'm like, what a gangster business move. The book is, well, how much is it right there, Rob? Forty-five? Where are we at? It's on discount right now. Forty-seven, forty-four. Forty-seven, forty-four. And then if you get it, does it say how long it takes to get to you? Cause I'm trying to figure out when this competition has started. When would it get here, Rob? Look at it, look at, look at, January. So you're already going to be screwed because you have to find it. And then I did the math. So for $2 million, Pat, he'd have to sell 44,444 books. Is that a lot for Amazon?

• 1:27:49Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not, but he's not, he's going to get 50% of it. So it's really 88,000 books.

• 1:27:52Tom Ellsworth?

  So 88,000 books, I think he'll do it. But and let me get, I want to go over some of the contents as well that you didn't. So he has Bitcoin in there. You talked about the emerald, a Charizard Pokemon card, 2002, antique salvage from a shipwreck. It's no joke, this is a treasure hunt. A jelly glass once owned by George Washington, a sapphire, a BCE gold Greek laurel, a coin designed and minted by Pablo Picasso, a lunar rock specimen, and you'd appreciate this, 1986 Michael Jordan rookie card. Yeah, rookie card. Yeah, so, so here, here are some of the things. He spent five years doing it. Uh, the book are, are challenging. They're designed to test the most adept. Tom, you'd be freaking

• 1:28:34Tom Ellsworth?

  perfect at this. Somebody that's adept to treasure hunting. Tom is huge in the treasure hunting, uh, community. Uh, the chests are not located on private property. Uh, anyone can do the hunt. Um, you have to get the book. Um, and if the treasure remains undiscovered for a long time, he plans to release, uh, ready for this, additional clues to assist the hunters. Probably another book because he made it so hard to find the first time. But I think there's another guy, Tom, I don't know if you remember this, uh, an art dealer named Forrest Fenn. He did the same thing where he had a chest of gold and jewels in the Rocky Mountains. Um,

• 1:29:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, and five people died.

• 1:29:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, people died.

• 1:29:11Speaker 00

  And the guy who found it like kept it secret.

• 1:29:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yeah. Scumbag. But I think, I think this is a great.

• 1:29:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this creative? Is this like a way of selling? But is this, is he gonna get a return on his money?

• 1:29:23Speaker 00

  Um, well, let's just see how many books were bought. If you're really clever and you hide it really good and you make the clues really difficult, then maybe you'll make the 2 million back on the sale of the book. Maybe.

• 1:29:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, cause I was gonna ask, how would we, can we find out right now?

• 1:29:39Speaker 00

  How many books have to sell? Take, take 60% of the price of the book.

• 1:29:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Eighty thousand.

• 1:29:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Eighty thousand books. So here's my question. Could we find out how many he's sold so far? Is there a way to find out how many books of there's treasure inside have been sold? Because, um, Rob, yesterday it was, uh, if you bought it yesterday, it wasn't gonna come till December something. Today, when you just showed it, it's mid-January.

• 1:30:04Speaker 00

  You know what the genius of this would be?

• 1:30:05Tom Ellsworth?

  What?

• 1:30:06Speaker 00

  There is no hidden treasure.

• 1:30:08Tom Ellsworth?

  He doesn't have to put it anywhere.

• 1:30:09Speaker 00

  So no one's gonna find it. So people are gonna keep buying it.

• 1:30:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, buy the second book.

• 1:30:12Speaker 00

  This is like Mel Fisher.

• 1:30:14Patrick Bet-David?

  But is that a crime? Is that a crime?

• 1:30:17Speaker 00

  No, it's.

• 1:30:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Lying? It's not a crime. Just ask Joe Biden. Part in Hunter Biden right there.

• 1:30:22Speaker 00

  Bit of a scumbag move. I, I don't know if it's a crime.

• 1:30:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, he could just put the ball in his deck.

• 1:30:27Speaker 00

  There may be treasure here. I don't know.

• 1:30:31Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know. I think it's a great business idea and it's adding some excitement.

• 1:30:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:30:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, how about this? Why don't you give me and Tom?

• 1:30:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, we have to finish the podcast because we have to go chase, find this out.

• 1:30:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Me and Tom want to leave. Let's go.

• 1:30:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, for some of you guys that are, before we go through these last four stories, if you're in South Florida, this Thursday, is it Thursday, Tom? I think it's this Thursday, we are giving away hundreds of seven-foot Christmas trees.

• 1:30:58Tom Ellsworth?

  He's making Christmas noise.

• 1:31:00Patrick Bet-David?

  We're making Christmas sounds. Please don't do your sound effects, Tom, unless if I ask for it. Tom's sound effects. He's, he looks childlike when he's doing that. Allow the young man to do his little thing. When a person is trying to give away some Christmas trees, Tom does the tweaking of the, what do you call it? The weed sound and all this other stuff that he does. I mean, imagine if he was eating a bag of chips right now. You'd shut down this whole operation. I'll come back to this. I'll come back to this. Okay. I was not ready for that sound. That sound, I'm gonna have nightmares.

• 1:31:31Tom Ellsworth?

  You alright?

• 1:31:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Alright, so let's go to Kash Patel. Kash Patel, Trump taps Kash Patel for FBI director and ally, who would aid in his effort to upend law enforcement. And by the way, God knows how many clips there is reacting to this. Trump's aide Kash Patel demands massive declassification, calls for release of Epstein and Diddy List as truth must come out. A lot of people are, a lot, my darling, a lot of people are concerned about this. So Trump's aide Kash Patel called for declassification, including the Epstein list, Diddy list. The truth must come out, no matter how uncomfortable. Patel, a former national security official, argued that these records, Rob, if you want to play this clip, go ahead and play this clip.

• 1:32:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Government gangsters, go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

• 1:32:20Speaker 06

  Anyway, the other thing that I put in the book that I recommended the boss to do hits on this. We need a 24/7 declassification office. Rolling papers out, 24/7.

• 1:32:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 1:32:33Speaker 06

  And not just like JJK and not just 9/11. You're talking to the guy that's read the whole 9/11 report and those seven pages that people talk about. But I believe, as like the guy who is an intel guy who believes wholeheartedly in the classified system of information, I believe that it has been overabused by these corrupt officials in government to hide the truth and enact more corrupt activities. So what I told the boss was like, I don't care what you call it, truth and reconciliation. Whatever, come up with a better name. But every agency and department literally submits all of their documentation. And I believe you could get half out, half. I still think the other half needs to remain classified. I'll always argue that it does serve a purpose. But like you're seeing in these documents in the Jack Smith case, they're just redacting stuff that they lied about.

• 1:33:18Speaker 06

  That they broke the law.

• 1:33:19Speaker 05

  It's used to protect themselves.

• 1:33:21Speaker 06

  And it's a public document in federal court, which is a document for the people of the United States. And we can, we can have you run that office. You can come in and just be like, hey, I want all the Saudi documents.

• 1:33:30Speaker 04

  I'll gladly do that. I'd be so happy.

• 1:33:32Speaker 06

  So Luke will be the press secretary for the Libertarian Party.

• 1:33:35Speaker 04

  The declassifying document.

• 1:33:36Speaker 06

  The viceroy of declassification.

• 1:33:37Speaker 04

  Absolutely. I like that. I'm in.

• 1:33:39Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about Kash Patel?

• 1:33:43Speaker 00

  Right now, there is an all time low confidence in government exceeded only by the even lower low of people's trust in media. And I believe that the FCC chairman is very, very important. And I believe Kash Patel is very important. Because if we're going to restore pride in America, it has to come with this thing called trust. And we have to elevate some trust over this gooey, corrupt, disgusting, smelly thing we call government. And I'm with him. I think you need to declassify a lot of these things to restore some public confidence. Find out what happened in a couple of these things. He's right.

• 1:34:28Speaker 00

  Jack Smith was redacting things that were basically the things they lied about. So it's a cover up. It's using the redaction and using classified to create the cover up. I think a few of those, just, you know, just like food poisoning, you just got to throw up the food. Start eating the saltines, sipping the Gatorade and get your body back to normal. And I think that's what he has to do. And I believe Cash is the guy to do it. And I think he's, look, he was. He's not a political analyst. He is not a pundit. The guy is a national security official that knows what the hell he's doing and isn't gonna like declassify nuclear launch codes or secret CIA operations that are going on right now that where people could get hurt or things.

• 1:35:10Speaker 00

  He's gonna restore trust and I think he's absolutely correct. And he says he needs an office of declassification. Okay, that shouldn't be declassified, that shouldn't be declassified. No, no, not that, not that, not that. Yes, this, because it does serve a purpose. I think this is great news and I think that it's not gonna take a day. It's gonna take time, but I really wanna see two years into this and to see what he's been able to classify and it's gonna be big headlines. Some of it's gonna be breaking glass, but I think the American people sit back and say, "Well, you know what? Now it's out there." But the other thing that happens? He doesn't let new things get classified and he's gotta be able to put a stop to some

• 1:35:54Speaker 00

  of that, like Jack Smith, classifying things just so they could hide lies.

• 1:35:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny.

• 1:35:58Tom Ellsworth?

  I absolutely love this dude. I've been following this guy from when he was on Sean Ryan and when he was in Trump's administration. He said, if he became the FBI director, he said, "I would shut down the FBI Hoover Building on day one and reopen it the next day as a museum of the deep state." All right? And he said, "Then I take the 7,000 employees that work in that building and send them across America to chase down freaking criminals." "Because you guys are cops. Go do your damn job. Stop being political activists for the freaking, the leg of the freaking Democratic Party." He said, "Every agency and department that I've worked for, when it comes to the fiscal end of the year, they're like, they go on trips, they go spend money." And he's like, "You have to get back to Congress." And he goes, "We can't do that." So, he was on, um, Tim Dillon, PVD, and he was talking about-

• 1:36:42Speaker 00

  Tim Poole?

• 1:36:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Tim Poole, I'm sorry. Tim Poole, I apologize. And this was the January 6th situation. The entire January 6th, which has been bothering me, when they tried to push this insurrection and impeach Trump and all that stuff. This is what he's saying about Ray Epps about that day. And if it's okay, I wanna show this and then a quick clip of Ted Cruz talking to Jill Samborn with the FBI. And she wouldn't admit out loud in front of Congress that there was no FBI people there injuring people and starting a freaking riot. This is, um, this is him on the Ray Epps situation. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:37:12Speaker 00

  I'll get you beyond a reasonable doubt. Two pieces of information. Ray Epps was on FBI's most- Most Wanted List one day and the next day he was off of the FBI's Most Wanted List. There are only two ways that happens, you die or your informant. Put that aside, under congressional testimony, Jill Sanborn, who I used to work with, the head of the FBI Counterintelligence Division, in charge of all these investigations, testified under oath when Senator Cruz asked her, flat out, were there federal agents involved with January 6th? And she said, quote, "Senator, I can't answer that at this time." Not, if the answer was definitively no, having been a DOJ/FBI guy myself, she would have gone there and said, "Nope, absolutely not."

• 1:37:55Speaker 00

  The reason she said, "I can't answer that," is because of the same stonewalling they gave us during Russiagate with Christopher Steele-Halper and everybody else. It's the same narrative.

• 1:38:02Tom Ellsworth?

  And that's the guy that you wanted to have in Christopher Wray's job? Good riddance? And this is it, Pat? He's asking Jill Sanborn, basic questions, and if it's definitively no, just say, "Absolutely not, they weren't doing all these things." She can't answer because it's true. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:38:17Speaker 00

  How many FBI agents or confidential informants actively participated in the events of January 6th?

• 1:38:26Speaker 05

  Sir, I'm sure you can appreciate that I can't go into the specifics of sources and methods.

• 1:38:33Speaker 00

  Did any FBI agents or confidential informants actively participate in the events of January 6th? Yes or no?

• 1:38:40Speaker 05

  Sir, I can't answer that.

• 1:38:43Speaker 00

  Did any FBI agents or confidential informants commit crimes of violence on January 6th?

• 1:38:49Speaker 05

  I can't answer that, sir.

• 1:38:52Speaker 00

  What? Did any FBI agents or FBI informants actively encourage and incite crimes of violence on January 6th?

• 1:39:01Speaker 05

  Sir, I can't answer that.

• 1:39:03Tom Ellsworth?

  PBD, she can't answer that because she knows that they were there. That's why Christopher Wray was there, when he was in front of them and he goes, "I can't answer that," and that's all they've been doing. I think he's a breath of fresh air that's gonna come in and clean house. He's my favorite, he's my favorite draft pick of this administration, hands down.

• 1:39:19Speaker 00

  Well, my favorite draft pick is by far and away Vivek and Elon and Doge, but I applaud this pick. There's a couple of things that I, because I've been seeing a lot of his highlights, sort of his greatest hits. Basically, we're from a few years ago. Number one, this guy is a true believer. He didn't just come out of nowhere and this is what he wants to do. He's been saying this for years and years and years and years. So I gotta give someone respect for basically putting where their money where their mouth is because if they would have lost, who knows what have end up happening with Kash Patel. So, respect on that. Number two, something that I think we're all recognizing is that we didn't fully understand this in 2016 and certainly not in 2020, but for sure in 2024 is that what people enjoy about Trump and basically the people that he's putting into power are that they are the wrecking balls to the system. In 2016

• 1:40:04Speaker 00

  and 2020, everyone's like, you can't, this guy's, he's not presidential, he can't come in, this is crazy. What, he's never gonna win. All the, all the naysayers. Now, people are basically recognizing that in 2024, everyone he's putting into the power and everybody that he's basically putting a part of his administration is because they want to basically do away with the deep state, drain the swamp, basically get, get rid of the nameless, faceless bureaucrats who are running the country that we have $37 trillion of debt. Let's see what Doja's with this. So, he's coming into power right now, potentially. This is, other than Matt Gaetz, I haven't, you, you saw all the, everything that happened with Matt Gaetz. No way, they're not gonna pick him, not gonna pick him. Boom, he drops out of the race. Other than him, it's Kash Patel, number two, as far as what we're getting, the backlash.

• 1:40:49Speaker 00

  And then number three, Pete Hegseth. We'll see what happens with Cash.

• 1:40:52Tom Ellsworth?

  What backlash is he getting?

• 1:40:53Speaker 00

  He's not getting any. There's getting a lot of people basically saying, hey, listen, do you know how long the typical term of FBI director is supposed to be? 10 years.

• 1:41:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, they want him to stay, want Ray to stay. Of course they do.

• 1:41:03Speaker 00

  By the way, who, in all fairness, who put Christopher, Christopher Wray in charge?

• 1:41:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, like he would know that he turned into this scumbag.

• 1:41:10Speaker 00

  I'm just saying, these are the facts. Trump wants a new FBI director, what's to know about?

• 1:41:13Tom Ellsworth?

  What criticism is Cash getting himself?

• 1:41:16Speaker 00

  That, that he's, this is what they're saying, not me, that he's ill-equipped, that he's basically looking to dismantle the FBI, everything he said. So, hear me out for a second. There was a Nobel Prize one, I believe in economics, for a book written this year. It was called Why Nations Fail. So I don't know if you can find this and it's the origins of power, prosperity and poverty. And basically, the base, yeah, this is it right here. The basic premise, okay, so it was, they won the Nobel Prize, but it was written a little while back. The basic premise is what separates powerful countries and rich countries and countries that have peace and prosperity are institutions. So what are the institutions

• 1:41:58Speaker 00

  in America? Our government, our electoral college, our systems, our FBI, Department of Justice, CIA. So when you have someone like Cash come in and say, we need to take a wrecking ball to the entirety of the FBI, which he'll basically be heading, right? People have a lot of problems with that. So I don't have a problem with this because I believe that we do need some accountability for all the nonsense that has basically been exposed over the last four years, if not longer. But this is going to be a controversial pick. Let's see if he gets through Congress. Do you think he's going to make it through?

• 1:42:30Tom Ellsworth?

  I was saying, yes. Humberto was like, no, there's absolutely no way he's next on the list. I mean, they're going to try to find something. But I mean, the guy's been, he was the director of what? And what was he? What was his previous job under Trump? Director of Intelligence?

• 1:42:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Assistant Director or something like that?

• 1:42:45Tom Ellsworth?

  He did, he was a... Yeah, he has the background, he has the...

• 1:42:48Patrick Bet-David?

  He's been around.

• 1:42:49Tom Ellsworth?

  He's a G.

• 1:42:50Patrick Bet-David?

  But listen, for everybody that says they're not qualified, everybody is not qualified for the job until they get the job.

• 1:42:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Of course.

• 1:42:58Patrick Bet-David?

  There isn't anybody that's... What's that again, Rob?

• 1:43:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Sorry.

• 1:43:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody is not qualified for the job until they get qualified for the job. And for me, this is a very, very, very powerful job. Very. Okay. I hope Cash does what he said he's going to do.

• 1:43:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 1:43:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Because if he does, Cash is going to be someone that could increase the level of trust Americans have in the government. That's his role. Go back to the trust the American people have in the US government, Rob. Can you pull that up? The trust Americans have in the US government?

• 1:43:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Was it less than six, was it 65?

• 1:43:41Patrick Bet-David?

  23, 24. No, no, it's in the 20s. It's not, it's not a...

• 1:43:45Speaker 00

  Congress is...

• 1:43:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my, way under...

• 1:43:47Speaker 00

  Been nineteen to twenty.

• 1:43:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I thought it was all the way at the top, Rob. You just had it. That's what's that one right there?

• 1:43:51Speaker 00

  Public trust in government. Wow.

• 1:43:52Patrick Bet-David?

  It's less than twenty percent. It's twenty-three percent if I'm not mistaken. Zoom in a little bit, Rob, because I can't see it. Uh, yeah, twenty-three percent. Okay.

• 1:44:00Speaker 00

  From nineteen to twenty-three.

• 1:44:01Patrick Bet-David?

  What is it, Russ? Twenty-two percent. Okay. So twenty-two percent, I, I would say if cash stays until twenty-eight, and that twenty-two goes to forty, forty-plus is the MVP.

• 1:44:17Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:44:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. He has it, he has the opportunity to play a very, very important role. His job is a very important job. Um, very important job. And I like the fact that he has the balance to say, I don't think we have to tell everybody everything, and I think we have to keep some of this stuff. This is why I don't know if they're going to tell us everything about John F. Kennedy assassination. I don't know if they will. I think RFK wants to go in there and see the files. He wants to see the files.

• 1:44:49Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:44:49Patrick Bet-David?

  But I don't know if they're even going to show it to him, because to him, it's so personal that

• 1:44:53Speaker 00

  Well, he'll lose his mind.

• 1:44:54Patrick Bet-David?

  He'll write something about it before he dies. But because how do you get somebody to post and write something to say, no matter what, he's willing to commit? But if, if he, if he's able to balance that out, he's got a lot of power in his hands, Tom.

• 1:45:06Speaker 00

  If you'll stay on this just for one second, Pat, look where we were in nineteen sixty after Eisenhower. We were at seventy-seven percent.

• 1:45:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep, yep.

• 1:45:17Speaker 00

  And twenty years, exactly twenty years, it went all the way down to twenty-five percent. Seventy-five percent, twenty-five. We lost fifty points. And we lost them on three things. Why do bad things come in three? The Kennedy assassination, the Vietnam War, and then

• 1:45:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Watergate.

• 1:45:36Speaker 00

  And then Watergate. And it all devolved our trust in government. We didn't trust Johnson. We didn't trust By the way, people forget is how much the American people, once he was president, did not trust Lyndon Johnson at all. And it was over Vietnam. And then Nixon and Watergate. And they're like, wow, all the more reason not to trust it. And there was conspiracy theorists and everything going on all back then. Did we kill Kennedy? Even back then, initial books were written. And that's where it's at. And by the way, it really hasn't, it hasn't ever recovered. There's a little, you know, run up with W. and Clinton, believe it or not.

• 1:46:11Tom Ellsworth?

  9/11.

• 1:46:12Speaker 00

  Culminating in 9/11, a bit of a spike. But we need to get it back, and there needs to be.

• 1:46:17Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what I'm saying, he's got a very important job.

• 1:46:19Speaker 00

  You're, you're correct. I'm backing it up, pointing out that how quickly three presidents and three events took 50% of the confidence and the pride that people had in their government.

• 1:46:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what it is? Uh, uh, I read a book on leadership by, who's the coach that, uh, won two Super Bowls for the Giants? What's the guy's name?

• 1:46:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Bill Parcell.

• 1:46:39Speaker 00

  Coughlin.

• 1:46:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Coughlin. Tom Coughlin. Tom Coughlin wrote a book on, uh, leadership. Uh, uh, and it's, yeah, Tom, that's, that's the one right there. Right there, the first one right there that you got.

• 1:46:49Speaker 00

  Giants and.

• 1:46:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Right there, that one. What does it say? Learn to, what is the title?

• 1:46:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Earn the right to win.

• 1:46:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Earn the right to win. And he says, in his, in his lifetime of coaching, he tried so many different ways to move people. The fear of loss, the FOMO, the chewing their asses out, public whatever, and all this other stuff. He says, nothing ever drove us more than the pride to come through individually and collectively. To say the pride of, you can count on me. Vinny, can I count on you? You can count on me. PBD, can I count on you? You can count on me. Can I count on, by Timmy, you can count on us. Can I count on, you can count on the team. Can I count on this department? You can count on us.

• 1:47:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Nothing comes close to the pride more than the MVPs, more than the accolades, more than the contracts, more than any of that stuff. All that stuff is important, but the pride, we did this thing together. You can rely on us, coach. You can rely on us, America. You can rely on us, voters. You voted accordingly. You voted the right way with those seven states. We're gonna come through for you voters. There's nothing like it. And, uh. A lot of these people that Trump's putting there are people that have a lot of pride in folks. We got a lot of pride for Christmas. This is why this Thursday, we are doing a, we're giving away hundreds of Christmas. We have to buy it from this one place in Carolina.

• 1:48:16Patrick Bet-David?

  We bought a few hundred Christmas trees and we contacted some local charities that were helping out with some families. But we are keeping a hundred of those trees for the first hundred that show up. This Thursday, 6:30, we'll be giving away those trees. If you want to get more information about how it works to participate, you're not buying anything. You don't have to buy anything. You come, we give you a tree. We even put it on top of your car. I'm one of the guys that'll be a helper. We give away the stand for you to put your tree there and we give away Future Looks Bright ornament to the first hundred that come there. At our property, if you want more information on that, text the word tree to 3103401132. Again, text the word tree to 3103401132.

• 1:49:00Patrick Bet-David?

  We intentionally kept the first four hours, three and a half hours to give it to people that are of need of a Christmas tree. And then we bought another 100, 150 to just give away to anybody that's our fans in Florida. That you follow our content, that we want you to come out to us. We love Christmas. Christmas is a very unique season. Some of my greatest memories of my life is Christmas. Till today, I look forward to Christmas like you can't even believe. I love Christmas. There's something very special about it. Family, values, camaraderie, being with people you love, the memories, the games, the food, all of that. If you're in South Florida, you live within a 50, 100 mile radius. If you want to drive down here, no problem. Text the word tree to 3103401132. We will respond back with details for it.

• 1:49:43Patrick Bet-David?

  We hope to see many of you guys from Florida there. We'll give you the intel. God bless. Okay, all right. So let's go to a next story here. I think one of the stories that we haven't gotten into yet that I wanted to really get into is this police in Moscow raid bars over LGBTQ propaganda. This is a barren story, okay? Adam's favorite story, not sure what, but you know, he wants, he has some thoughts on, and Adam, I'm gonna come to you first.

• 1:50:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Neither here nor there.

• 1:50:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, well, it is what it is. We don't, but Moscow police raided at least three bars, including the popular Mongo Gay Club. Great name, Mono. Mono Gay Club and Inferno Night detaining patriots and arresting the director of a travel agency for gay men under laws.

• 1:50:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Criminalizing LGBT propaganda? What is this about, guys? Why is this a story? The director of men travel, a 40-year-old gay travel agency owner, okay, was arrested for allegedly preparing a trip to, for supporters of non-traditional sexual values of Egypt? What? According to state media reports, these actions coincide with one-year anniversary of Russia's Supreme Court banning the international LGBT movement. Can you play this clip? By the way, is this appropriate clip to play? I don't want to do the Pornhub situation again.

• 1:50:59Speaker 00

  I think we're okay. There's no, I didn't see any nudity when I watched it earlier.

• 1:51:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, is there any dangling, hanging around?

• 1:51:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I haven't seen this one, but if you guys do see Adam in there, just, not him, it's a look like it's a doppelganger.

• 1:51:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob, go ahead. Kids, close your eyes. Adults, you're fine.

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• 1:52:18Speaker 00

  There's a dancer.

• 1:52:19Tom Ellsworth?

  I was dancing. I was just dancing.

• 1:52:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't get it, though. What's this?

• 1:52:24Tom Ellsworth?

  So that's them raiding, that's them raiding, they were raiding gay clubs. They're raiding them, arresting them.

• 1:52:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Why are they raiding gay clubs?

• 1:52:32Speaker 00

  By the way, I don't think this is a gay story.

• 1:52:34Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think this is a gay story.

• 1:52:35Patrick Bet-David?

  But we'll keep playing this clip. What is this, Rob? So this the gay club? Now, here's my question with these cops.

• 1:52:39Tom Ellsworth?

  What's with the cage?

• 1:52:40Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no. What question I got with the cops is, why are you straight cops going and spreading the legs of gay men?

• 1:52:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Who are the gay men here?

• 1:52:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe it's the cops. Hey, we have a mission. We are raiding this gay club. I'm like, boss, I wanna in. I wanna go. I'll arrest these guys and I'll spread their legs and I'll arrest them. I'm telling you, I'm gonna do the right thing for Russia. Uh, please, boss, put me in. What is this situation all about?

• 1:53:06Tom Ellsworth?

  I have deep.

• 1:53:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you do that one more time? By the way, like, uh, what is this?

• 1:53:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom goes, what's the cage?

• 1:53:16Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I know. There's like a, it's like a. All right, Tom, you would give us your experience with what this place is like. I have zero experience at this, but I'm gonna share something. Over the weekend, you know, this story was coming up and I'm like, what are they doing? And there was other news reports coming out and a human rights group came out that said that there were, first of all, you know, that the Russian Orthodox Church and Vladimir Putin. Yeah. Do not support or encourage the lifestyle cho- choice. Some of those cops do.

• 1:53:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, they do.

• 1:53:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No, they, they, they don't. They may come on top. They don't. Yeah. And there were pictures of some of these guys. Um, one of them had a black eye and he was holding up conscription papers.

• 1:53:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Wait, black guy or you said black eye?

• 1:54:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Black guy.

• 1:54:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Black eye.

• 1:54:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Black eye.

• 1:54:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Sorry, I saw a black guy right there.

• 1:54:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what conscription is?

• 1:54:04Tom Ellsworth?

  It's where they, they make you join the military.

• 1:54:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Draft. It's right. It's, it's like draft or jail. And you can find pictures of these guys showing the papers that said, hey, I was taken downtown. They then gave me these, checked my ID. They told me that I was part of a, a, a anti-government, um, uh, you know, uh, protest or something. Uh, and here's my papers. I'm drafted. And if you can find this, Rob, there's, people were saying that they were drafted on the spot. Now, there's a lot of BS and a lot of things can go around it. And I tried to find a couple. Different sources to kind of validate this.

• 1:54:47Patrick Bet-David?

  But if the Russian government is just deciding that it's gonna go draft people and it's running out of guys in the military. And they say, hey, you know what? We're not really encouraging this lifestyle. What if we busted the clubs and just give some of these guys a conscription notices?

• 1:55:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 1:55:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And if that's what's happening, that that's pretty bad.

• 1:55:07Tom Ellsworth?

  But but does this make sense though? So Russia.

• 1:55:09Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a great picture, Rob. Out of all the pictures, they said, I pulled that picture up, Rob pulled up. Rob, did you find anything on that? Like?

• 1:55:16Tom Ellsworth?

  No, the picture, Rob, all the way.

• 1:55:18Patrick Bet-David?

  That they that the club raids conscription. Why would you pull that picture up, Rob? I was looking for what.

• 1:55:25Tom Ellsworth?

  He does not look.

• 1:55:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, go ahead.

• 1:55:27Tom Ellsworth?

  But but I go kick. Well, think about this. So Russia shut down gay nightclubs because there was gay men hanging around other men. So now they're joining the military where they're just gonna be surrounded about around all men.

• 1:55:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that what they're doing?

• 1:55:41Tom Ellsworth?

  That's yeah, they're getting a conscription, which is so in Russia, conscription mandates all men 18 to 30 must serve one year term in the military. And then the recent legislation changes to 18 to 27. So you're giving these gay dudes orders to basically join the military where they're gonna be like, can you imagine? You're you're a Ukrainian soldier and you run into a gay Russian soldier and he's like, listen, I don't want to fight, but you're cute. Maybe.

• 1:56:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, the good news is you only have to serve a year, right? And if you're killed in Ukraine, you don't have to finish the year.

• 1:56:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Really? So you just, oh, okay.

• 1:56:14Patrick Bet-David?

  That's great. But let me ask you. So so they're they're saying gay clubs are not legal in Russia. That's what they're saying. I don't think what that's what they're saying. I think it's it's a they regard it as as rubble. And so the the reasons that the police had for going in there seems sketchy because it seems that it's legal to have these clubs. Yeah. But they're looking for people to draft. That's the story. And he sold you out of by the way, Tom, let me ask you a question, Tom. This is just too many options for me to angles to take. I. You mean to tell me these guys want to draft soldiers and they go to a gay club?

• 1:56:52Tom Ellsworth?

  That's exactly what they were doing.

• 1:56:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I think they're running. Well, they're running. I'm sure Zelensky is celebrating. No, they're running. No, the Valand. I'm not.

• 1:57:01Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not supporting this. What I'm saying is the Russian government.

• 1:57:04Patrick Bet-David?

  It sounds like that you think it's a good strategy. I don't think it's a good strategy.

• 1:57:07Tom Ellsworth?

  No, the Russian government is running out of guys. Is there running out of guys that are coming voluntarily in the military?

• 1:57:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Is that the gun in your pocket?

• 1:57:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Gay men are still guys, but it's not. You think they're waking up saying, I want to go to war against Zelensky in Ukraine? You think that's what they're thinking? I don't think that's what they're thinking.

• 1:57:22Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think so either.

• 1:57:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You think like that that club is filled with like special forces, like Delta Force?

• 1:57:27Tom Ellsworth?

  It's filled with general infantry guys. They're going to be forced to join and they're going to get boots and a long rifle and they're going to be sent out frontline guys.

• 1:57:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe they like long rifles.

• 1:57:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Maybe they do. I was just gonna say that. That's true. Well, Tom, let me look. But I'm saying, Rob, did you find this? Because if this is really what it was about, and this is terrible, right? I think that's part of it.

• 1:57:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Next time, warn me with stories like this.

• 1:57:48Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm saying it's not about gay or straight. If Russia's running out of guys and they're just finding reasons to come raid clubs, find people and compulsorily draft them, that's bad. Hey, how dare you guys be around a bunch of guys? Now go join the military where there's only guys and foxholes and vodka.

• 1:58:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I think Tom is partly right, but there's more to this story. So I'm in Russia this weekend and there I am in a club. And next thing you know, I'm with my buddies. I'm having a good time. Boom, bang, bing. These guys show up. I'm just trying to have a good time. But the reality is this, in Russia, it's Putin's been in power 25 years. And a year ago, he put into motion via the Russia Supreme Court, a decision to classify the LGBTQ movement as an extremist organization. 23, right? Yeah. So he's, his whole emphasis has been on traditional family values, having more kids, making Russia great again. We understand that concept.

• 1:58:46Tom Ellsworth?

  So, but he's labeling the movement, the organization of this LGBT and extremist organization. The best example I can give is when someone says, hey, Black Lives Matter. It's like, yeah, okay, cool. I'm with you. All lives matter. Yeah. But the actual organization, BLM, turned out to be a Marxist sham that was siphoning money from people. Yeah. So essentially what he's doing is cracking down on the LGBT movement, but in the form of what? You're just raiding gay clubs. So I don't know. This is the whole problem with Russia is that are they a democracy? Are they a dictator dictatorship? Are they authoritarian? You know, who knows what's going on there? It's like, it reminds me of, so that's what's going on. If you're gay in Russia, boom, you're just getting cracked down.

• 1:59:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Imagine being a gay in Gaza. Good luck with that, buddy. Have fun holding your sign out here in America.

• 1:59:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:59:33Tom Ellsworth?

  We know what's gonna happen to the gay clubs.

• 1:59:34Speaker 00

  Go on a march in Gaza and declare Pride Month and find out it's just gonna be Pride Day. So you're bonked on the head.

• 1:59:40Tom Ellsworth?

  From a tactical standpoint, though, if you think about it from tactics, it is harder to shoot. Cause gay guys walk really like, geez, like it's hard to shoot. You know what I mean? If he's just like dancing, it'll be hard to, you can't shoot that guy. He's all flamboyant. He's running around. It's like, it's a, it's a good tactic move. What do you think?

• 1:59:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, you're thinking about it from having been.

• 1:59:59Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm thinking, I was in the military. A straight guy walks like this. The gay guy's like, yes, you can. Aim and shoot that guy. He's dancing. He's frolicking.

• 2:00:06Speaker 00

  Are you a tank or just happy to see me?

• 2:00:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I know that we're kind of having fun with this and that's funny, but imagine just, you're just a regular gay guy in Russia just trying to live your life.

• 2:00:15Speaker 00

  How about being a regular?

• 2:00:16Tom Ellsworth?

  And you go to jail because you go to a bar. It's actually over. Let Pat go to the next story. Stop.

• 2:00:20Speaker 00

  Parents of a 22 year old man who's now been drafted and being sent to an endless war.

• 2:00:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's just. We're gonna be okay, Tom.

• 2:00:27Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not gonna wear that uniform.

• 2:00:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, it's gonna be okay. It's gonna be okay. Let's go to the next story here. So Musk, Bernie Sanders admits Elon Musk is right and backs Doge if it makes major cuts in the department. Bernie Sanders sides with Elon Musk. Okay. Think about that. So apparently you can teach an old Doge new tricks. Lefty Senator Bernie Sanders turned head Sunday with his poll support for President Donald Trump's plan new Doge. Providing it takes aim at the Pentagon's cushy budget.

• 2:01:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Elon Musk is bright. The Pentagon and with a budget of $886 billion just failed its seventh audit in a row. It's lost track of billions. Last year, only 13 senators voted against the military industrial complex. And a defense budget full of waste and fraud. This, this must change. And this is the story that's getting them to get closer. Talking about this taking place last month, Doge, a Department of Defense announced it had filled its seven independent audit in a row, which has troubled both Republicans and Democrats. The Department has been authorized to receive $824 billion in government money during 2024 fiscal year. Tom, thoughts on this?

• 2:01:50Speaker 00

  Um, you know what? This is, this is Bernie Sanders not coming to his senses. He's been against kind of excessive government spending. He's been all over this. And this is Bernie Sanders saying, you know what? What you guys are doing is right. It's also, I think, interested what you think, Benny. It's the establishment. It's, guess what? Now you have three people pointing at the same establishment that's just full of bribes, criminality, and things that are going on in defense spending.

• 2:02:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, how much of this, how much of this is Bernie, how old is Bernie Sanders right now? If I could guess, 73.

• 2:02:28Speaker 00

  No, dude, he's gotta be 80 at this point.

• 2:02:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Really? Yeah, he's old. He's 83.

• 2:02:32Speaker 00

  192.

• 2:02:32Patrick Bet-David?

  83! So Bernie's 83, Bernie's 83 years old, okay? By the way, to be fair, he looks healthy for 83 years old. He doesn't give me 83-year-old vibe. I'm just being, I'm not being disrespectful.

• 2:02:44Speaker 00

  He's 70s, but he's not really falling down the other side.

• 2:02:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, he's walking, he walks better than Biden does. Can you type in a video Bernie Sanders walking? I want to see how Bernie Sanders walks. And Bernie Sanders walking, oh wow.

• 2:02:58Speaker 00

  Wow, Tom!

• 2:03:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom has to be.

• 2:03:01Speaker 00

  Old man walking. There he goes.

• 2:03:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Play this clip of Bernie Sanders walking. Go back a little bit, go back a little bit. Let's see how Bernie walks. Watch this. Who walks? Sunday night, US Senator and former presidential candidate Bernie Sanders walking the picket line with Teamsters Local 283. When is this from? I love the support. Uh, this was this year, because everybody has Harris Wall shirts. I'm sorry, guys. He doesn't look like he walks like it. Biden walks, he walks better than Biden, and Biden's 81.

• 2:03:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, if they were to walk in a walking competition, which, who knows, Jake Paul could pull it off to put these guys go against each other for 10 million bucks. If they were to walk, I think Biden loses to Sanders.

• 2:03:39Speaker 00

  For sure.

• 2:03:40Patrick Bet-David?

  So, how much of this is that Sanders is getting to an age where he's like, hey, man, you know, this is a legacy move here. I'm gonna get closer to these guys. These guys, the American people have... Agreed with them more than our policies. I'm gonna get closer and I know this is coming. And he's agreeing, or how much of this is the horseshoe where the, the, the guys on both sides are kinda like, hey, these, this is the area we all agree with. I'm anti-establishment. Let's just say he's an anti-establishment guy, although he went and supported Kamala Harris, which is a form of being an establishment guy. But how much of we think is that? How much of it is, I, I just think Elon's smarter and he's making a better choice than the other side is.

• 2:04:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll tell you what's going on. Um, I think there's, if there's one thing that Bernie Math is not, Bernie Sanders has not been known for, Bernie Mac. There's one thing that Bernie Sanders has not been known for, it's What, what?

• 2:04:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Six year old.

• 2:04:33Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm a socialist. I can't believe I brought up Bernie Mac. Call my head with a balloon. The millionaires and the billionaires. If there's one thing he's not known for, it's doing math. This is the guy that proposed the Green New Deal, Medicare for all, Medicaid for all, which is basically adding trillions of dollars to the deficit. There's one thing that Bernie can't get behind is stop spending money on the military industrial complex that just continually. There you go, Tom, right there. Come on in. I can't believe it, guys, he's back. So I actually gotta give Bernie Sanders a little bit of credit for basically acknowledging what we all understand. Is that holy moly, we just got bombed on here.

• 2:05:09Tom Ellsworth?

  I thought it was the end of the world right there. Sorry.

• 2:05:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that the, the government is not good at, uh, doing math and paying its bills. Uh, our income, you know, what the United States government took in from 2023, I don't think we have the, the federal budget for 2024, the results yet. 2023 income, $5 trillion. What were our expenses? $6.7 trillion. We're $1.7 trillion in the negative, in the blackout here. So if it comes down to cutting social security, Medicare, Medicaid, whatever it needs to be done, whether it's the military industrial conflicts of the US defense, something's gotta give to basically get rid of, to get this budget back on track. So you gotta give Bernie a little bit of credit for basically acknowledging that, yes,

• 2:05:53Patrick Bet-David?

  uh, Vivek and Elon Musk are gonna come in and basically clean house. Now here's the task. They said that they're gonna cut $2 trillion worth of waste, cut the fat. Trim the expenses, eliminate, eliminate the needless unnecessary spending. How long is that gonna take? Is that in a year? Is that in four years? Because Trump's administration is only four years. So what's gonna happen? Because Doge is not a real government department. They just made it up. Yeah, good. The Department of Government Efficiency. It's not like that's a part of government already. They're coming in or trying to clean house. So we're gonna see what happens here. But at the end of the day, all the budgets have to go through the CBO, the Congressional Budget Office. So we're gonna see what actually gets cut. But respect to Bernie for basically understanding that drastic changes need to be made.

• 2:06:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I actually like this, to be honest with you. I actually like seeing this. I like seeing moments like this. And by the way, one final thoughts I'll say here about Trump before we wrap up. You know what's the great thing about power? And where you realize, you know, someone's true character is the following? Is when you have the power to destroy someone's life and you don't. Vice versa, you have the power to destroy someone's life and you do. Watch this. Who had power the last four years?

• 2:07:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Biden, Department of Justice, FBI.

• 2:07:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Did they try to destroy Trump's life?

• 2:07:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Thousand percent.

• 2:07:18Patrick Bet-David?

  In what way?

• 2:07:19Tom Ellsworth?

  God bless you. God bless you. God bless you.

• 2:07:21Patrick Bet-David?

  In what way?

• 2:07:22Tom Ellsworth?

  With lawfare, with women, with. Well, no, it's basically lawfare. That was what they used. And then that media was all on the other stuff.

• 2:07:29Patrick Bet-David?

  But they tried to destroy his life and.

• 2:07:31Tom Ellsworth?

  And then he also got shot in the head, which if you wanna say they're either a part of it or they did it, so that's a whole different story.

• 2:07:36Patrick Bet-David?

  But the point is, they used power, right? The DOJ's power to destroy the man's life.

• 2:07:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 2:07:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And they were supposed to be the unifier party.

• 2:07:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Biden was.

• 2:07:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:49Patrick Bet-David?

  He's supposed to be the unifier. He's supposed to bring everybody together. Now, riddle me this, okay? To all the people that are like, this guy's gonna be the dictator.

• 2:07:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:07:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Imagine if the guy who is supposed to do what they did to him, he takes office and he doesn't do that.

• 2:08:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Imagine he becomes a guy that he invites Justin Trudeau to Mar-a-Lago and they have dinner to get everybody smiling and Justin says rumor has it Peter Doocy reported on this. He said, he said, Justin told the president, he says, hey, this is it, Rob. Play this clip. This is hilarious.

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• 2:09:25Tom Ellsworth?

  And tonight we're getting some new details about that Trump Trudeau dinner from two people who were at the table. We are told that when Trudeau told President-elect Trump that new tariffs would kill the Canadian economy, Trump joked to him that if Canada can't survive without ripping off the U.S. to the tune of $100 billion a year, then maybe Canada should become the 51st state and Trudeau could become its governor.

• 2:09:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause. By the way, see, you gotta love him for that. Funny. He'll talk shit to your face. I guarantee Justin laughed. Look at the smile on his face. That's not a fake laugh. That's a laugh, a smile of I'm enjoying my company with this fricking guy I'm supposed to hate. Okay. So you're, he could, imagine flip this. Flip.

• 2:10:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Biden wins, okay? And they, they have a Justin Trudeau, but except it's Trump, it's a conservative. Okay? Do you think a Justin, a Biden winning, they'll invite DeSantis to dinner and, you know, Absolutely not. Break bread and have this kind of conversation? Never. Okay. Never. So let me tell you, the guy that everybody's saying the fear porn, saying he's gonna be the dictator, the divider, all that stuff. Everybody who's supposed to be his enemy is now taking sides with him. Why are they doing that? Why are they coming to Mar-a-Lago? Why are they coming and having dinner with him? Why is Mar-a-Lago a party every single night with everybody coming there together where it's becoming a new White House? Mar-a-Lago is the new White House. Okay? Why is that happening?

• 2:10:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Imagine if he, with all the power right now he has, Congress, Senate, all the new appointments, everybody he puts in there, instead of being able to destroy all of these people's lives, he does the accountability part, which needs to be in place, and then finds a way to finish off his legacy as a unifier. Imagine that. Sick. Do you, do you know how confusing that would be? Let me put it to you this way, in about 20 years, we're gonna go to the movies. And we're gonna watch a movie of Donald Trump, played by somebody. And that somebody today is probably in their 40s and 50s, they'll be in their 60s and 70s,

• 2:11:41Patrick Bet-David?

  and the actor's gonna have to play a whole different slew of ages, so they're gonna have to get a few different things that they'll do. And you're gonna sit there in 20 years, in 2044, and he may be around still at that time, you know, he looks super healthy, but in 2030 years, we'll be at the movies, and we'll sit there with our kids, who'll be in their 30s, 20s, 40s, and they're gonna say, "This guy, you guys really lived through the time where this guy was the president?" "We did." "Really? How was it like, Dad? How was it like, Mom?" "Well, let me tell you, this is really who he was. This is really what he did."

• 2:12:24Patrick Bet-David?

  "Wow, so he went from being the guy that they painted to be Saul, to Paul? He went from being this guy that was a guy that was a brutal, and all these other guys, and all that stuff they did to him, and he still came back in unified America? Yes. Why did he do that?" One, because he's very competitive. He's got pride in his name and his ability to deliver and his reputation. And at the same time, he also loves his country called the United States of America. And as much as people hate saying it, imagine being forced to say this guy united us. Imagine you in four years, when his term is done with and he's moving out. Everybody from all those media platforms that said all this stuff about him.

• 2:13:08Patrick Bet-David?

  They have to say, here is the man who united America. The last person we thought that could do this. This guy has a shot in the book Barbarians to bureaucrats. Barbarians to bureaucrats. This is a historic moment. If you go to the chart at the images, Rob, just go back and go to images. In this book, he talks about there is actually go to the bottom left one. You see right there, bottom left, bottom left, no, no, bottom left, Rob, you're right there. Yes, zoom in a little bit on that one. He talks about how there's a prophet. That's George Washington, founding fathers. Then he talks about the barbarians. That's the guys that came in. And they fought for America, the generals, the military leaders.

• 2:13:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Washington is still part of it. Uh, then you got the builders and explorers, the Carnegie's, the Vanderbilt, the Musks, the Franklins, the Chase, all these guys that built incredible businesses. Then the administrators showed up 1906 taxes. Okay, we should Federal Reserve, all this bullshit stuff that showed up, right? Administrator, then bureaucrats showed up. The Obamas, the Carters, the Kiss, all these other guys, the aristocrats, all those guys showed up. And you know where we are right now? It's exactly where we are. The McConnells, all those guys, the shifts, all those guys. And you know who's the only person that can save a company or an organization going through this life cycle? A synergist.

• 2:14:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump has the opportunity to be a synergist. He does that. Forget about it. I'm telling you, forget about it. That's the moment we're in today, and I'll finish on that. That this is a guy that can, has all the power right now to destroy people's lives. Imagine if he doesn't do it. And he's the guy that everybody thinks will. Anyways, gang, if you're still crazy enough to be with us, we appreciate you. Um, this doesn't feel like work to us. We love doing this. It's a lot of fun. Yesterday I was talking to the guys, we had a big executive strategy session, the best one we've ever had so far. We started early and we finished late. And it ended with some interesting phone calls about some polls that Tom. Uh, but that's a, that's a different story. Different polls.

• 2:15:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom and polls, it's, you gotta be careful when you're asking for advice sometimes with the poll stuff. But I will tell you this, one of our channels that's growing and doing phenomenal job enlightening, entertaining and empowering, probably more on the entertainment side, is ValueTainment Comedy. Gotta give a shout out to Vinny. This channel, just in the last couple of months, went from 50,000 subs to almost 140,000 subs. Nice. If you love Vinny and the great work he does as a part-time chiropractor, as a part-time speechwriter, as a part-time making salad from India, as a part-time, all this stuff that he does. If you love the work he does and the team does, it's a lot of people behind closures that are also helping with all this stuff. The Daniels, the Kellys.

• 2:16:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, everybody. Go subscribe to ValueTainment Comedy. I believe this thing has what it takes to have 10 million subscribers. Go subscribe to ValueTainment Comedy, put some thumbs up, give them some love. And then afterwards, manect Vinny and tell him, Vinny, I did so. Okay, Vinny, if you want to show your QR code, or Rob, if you want to put it up, after you subscribe, go to Vinny's manect account and send the man some love for the amount of laughter he's bringing to people all around the world. Having said that, God bless everybody. We got a couple of podcasts that's gonna be coming out. I think we have another Baldwin brother that's about to come down here to do another podcast with us.

• 2:16:51Patrick Bet-David?

  And then we'll do another, are we doing live again this Thursday or no? Friday we'll be live, uh, home team podcast, and then we'll have Daniel Baldwin Thursday at 9 a.m. Okay, fantastic. Take care, everybody. Bye bye, bye bye.

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