CNN Faces Backlash Over On-Air Trump Accusation | PBD #724

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana break down Trump’s dramatic removal of Mark Carney from the Board of Peace, CNN’s on-air chaos over a sex-trafficking accusation against Trump, Jamie Dimon and Ken Griffin’s blistering Davos attacks on Biden’s economic policies, and Trump’s announcement of a historic Greenland framework deal. ------ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright.

• 0:13Speaker 01

  My handshake is better than anything I ever sign, right here.

• 0:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:18Speaker 02

  My son's right there.

• 0:19Speaker 01

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:26Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, episode 724, I didn't even know what the number was. You realize we are 276 away from 1,000 episodes, okay? And today's a special podcast, why? Because during Christmas, we did a special thing that if you go out there and, you know, make a certain purchase, we were gonna choose somebody to come and be on the podcast. When we did, the names that we were pulling, the name that came up was Efren Bariga. Efren Bariga came to us from LA, we've never met, we've never spoken, except that one time when I FaceTimed you to surprise, you thought it was AI talking to you. I did. But now he is in the flesh, we took him out to dinner last night, we had a great time and he's gonna be on the podcast. We have no connection, you never worked for me, you never worked for the insurance company,

• 1:10Patrick Bet-David?

  zero, nothing at all, and he's got some beautiful shoes on, if you want to show it, that he's got right there. Nice. And yesterday, we got a chance to know, for the people that don't know, he's from Michoacan, a lot of people that are Mexican, a lot of pride in Michoacan, I know the Aguilar brothers, Ricardo Alejandro, five kids, family guy, wants more kids, worked at SpaceX for eight years, and he's got a bunch of ideas on some stories he wants to talk about. So let's get right into it. This Davos thing is still going on. Jamie Dimon gave his speech, Carney from Canada came up talking a little bit of smack, the president just tweeted something a few minutes ago, I believe, and said, "Look, you

• 1:53Patrick Bet-David?

  know, I appreciate your attention to this matter, but we have decided to remove you from the Board of Peace, you're no longer participating in it, we wish you all the best." They're out, okay? Then, when the president was in Davos on his flight back, he's like, "Look, when we were having issues on our border, didn't NATO come?" to support us, maybe we need NATO to come in, what is it, Article? Article five. Article five, we need your help, come on down, and NATO's like, wait a minute, their position at first was leave Greenland alone, we can defend ourselves, and then all of a sudden it's like, uh, no, you know, we kinda need you, well, if America wants Greenland, it's okay, and Calhoun's report just now that Tom just showed me,

• 2:31Patrick Bet-David?

  just went up 50%, it was at 24%, it's at 44% now, uh, sudden spike, how much money was a bet already, wagered? Four million dollars, five million dollars, the number was a real number, 2.5 million dollars. We're 2.5 on one and 5.1 on another. 2.5 on one and 5.1 on another. Seven million dollars out there betting on Greenland. Look at that, 45% now, it spiked up, on whether they'll have it in 20, whether they had them before 29, before 27 is 27%, so some are even believing it could happen before 20, by the way, look at how quickly that went up on before 27, uh, the blue one, if you're looking at that closely, and then aside from that, a bunch of other things are going on as well, nine Democrats,

• 3:16Patrick Bet-David?

  uh, turned on Clintons and said, look, with all the stuff that's going on, you gotta kinda come in and do this because we can no longer defend you, Scott Jennings was on CNN, as usual, being the CEO, the entire company, in my opinion, one of the guys said something about the president, saying he's leading a trafficking, whatever, he had to apologize afterward, Jennings is looking at the host saying, are we gonna let this happen, the host says, let me do my job, let me do my job, let me do my job, and then Scott's like, we're about to get sued, are you crazy? Yeah, he knows it's coming. And guess what just happened two days ago, President Trump just announced they're suing JP Morgan Chase for five billion dollars. Billion. Billion dollars, and I think it's Jamie and Chase is who they're suing, and by the way, I thought Jamie did a great job

• 3:57Patrick Bet-David?

  at Davos, I thought his message was good, I was impressed, but what he had to say, and it was actually a very good message there, and then there's a bunch of other things we got here that we'll get into. FCC late night shows may not be exempt from equal time for opposing candidates. Meaning you have to have opposing candidates there. And Tom goes back, you know, Tom being a historian he is. He goes back and says, many years ago, Johnny Carson had a guest on. And it was who the actress, what's her name?

• 4:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Charlton Heston was one of them on the conservative side. And then on the liberal side, it was a female, Jane Fonda.

• 4:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Jane Fonda, which everybody knows.

• 4:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Who were like very different.

• 4:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And then Johnny's like, hey, we can't talk about this stuff. We're getting too much into politics. Time out, let's go back into the, so you, there is some history behind this. And Jimmy Kimmel's not happy about it. He commented on this, asking his fans to come out and, you know, say some thoughts about it. Chris Cuomo calls out Scott Jennings. We'll get into that as well. Finnish president, this is a bad look, guys. Comes out saying, we don't need Europe. Few minutes later saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, I never said that. The lady's like, wait, you did say that.

• 5:02Speaker 01

  We don't need NATO.

• 5:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we don't need NATO.

• 5:04Speaker 01

  Don't quote me.

• 5:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we don't need NATO. Yeah, we don't need the US. We can defend ourselves without US. And things changed very, very quickly. Trump's prosecutions are coming over Rick 2020 election and stunning off script moment at Davos. Gavin Newsom was humiliated, denied at first to give his talk and it was interviewed. And then he was selling knee pads to people at a hundred bucks with Trump's signature on it.

• 5:28Tom Ellsworth?

  He would not.

• 5:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Then we got the Greenland deal we'll talk about. Then we have the, you know, Iran, something's happened with Iran. Marina Corina Machado was seen in a picture with Reza Pahlavi. I got some thoughts on that. I got some messages yesterday from people in media asking and saying, hey, what do you think about this? What does this really mean? Is this a good move? Is this not a good move? I'll give my thoughts. While the president was speaking, Newsom was, C-SPAN focused on Newsom's face to see his reaction. Rob just pulled that, I will talk about that as well. And then aside from that, a judge denies declines to sign off on charges against CNN anchor Don Lemon and AG Pam Bondi, two community leaders arrested over disruption of ICE pastors'

• 6:12Patrick Bet-David?

  church services that took place, which a lot of people are celebrating the fact that that finally happened. And then we got a couple of other things. Sinners makes history. You know the movie Sinners? That was one of the worst movies I've seen in my life. Makes history, setting Oscar nomination record. How many was it 16 or 17? How many times is Sinners being nominated? Was it 16 or 17, Rob? Some ridiculous amount of times. And we're curious whether you liked it or not. We'll give our thoughts on it. Because did we go watch it with Tico?

• 6:42Speaker 04

  Me, you and Tico. And 20 minutes in, we looked at each other and we got mad at Tico because we're like, why? He's like, I didn't think, he's like, I thought it was gonna be like a good horror movie. It was the worst, top five worst movies I've ever seen in my life.

• 6:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it was, it was pretty bad. And then Musk wants to take SpaceX public to get funding for space data centers for AI. I know Effra's got thoughts on that. Rob, did you see the clip of Musk being interviewed by Larry Fink? And then Fink asked a question, can we extend aging? Did you hear Musk's response? Did you see this? In the end, have you guys seen this or no? Oh, that's great that you haven't seen it. You have to see his answer. He says, yeah, you know, if we wanted to be able to extend life, it's actually not that hard to do so. Probably in our lifetime, we'll be able to do it. He says, you know, death is not a bad thing. Like, we need to die. And then Larry's like, well, I hope that happens in our lifetime. So you have to see this. A very, very interesting. We've had that discussion on the podcast. Yes, we have. We've had the discussion. Maybe we'll do it again.

• 7:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not afraid of that. I just don't want to be there when it happens. Yeah. So we'll have that conversation here today as well. And with that being said, let's get right into it. Effra, maybe take a minute here and share with the audience how you ended up being on the podcast.

• 7:51Speaker 05

  So it was during Christmas, like you said, and I ended up, I was gonna buy the merch anyway. So I ended up buying two pairs of the shoes. And then also the sales classes. I saw a massive discount. So I purchased that. And I actually love what you guys do on the emails. I still, I still get emails right now saying you have not started the courses.

• 8:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, really?

• 8:10Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 8:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So when are you starting them?

• 8:12Speaker 05

  Well, because right now my goal is to improve communication, so I'm taking a course for that.

• 8:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Good.

• 8:17Speaker 05

  Once that's completed, then I'll jump to that.

• 8:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I love it. So it's actually following up with you to make sure you do it.

• 8:21Speaker 05

  Love it.

• 8:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, good for the team. Good for you for doing that. Awesome. Okay. How was last night for you, by the way?

• 8:27Speaker 05

  Great. It was, uh, yeah. So you know how people say you're the average of the five people you spend the most time with? Man, mind blowing.

• 8:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Last night.

• 8:34Speaker 05

  The level of conversations you guys were having? Yeah.

• 8:37Speaker 06

  Favorite part of the meal?

• 8:39Speaker 05

  The Bison Burger.

• 8:42Speaker 06

  We have not like.

• 8:43Speaker 05

  Well, me and my wife haven't had, we had, there used to be one in Orange County in Anaheim Hills, or actually Yorba Linda, and it shut, shut down after COVID, but we used to have the Bison Burger there. I haven't had that in over two years. So when you mentioned it, I was like, oh, yes, I'll take that.

• 8:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, well, the Bison, I've had the Bison Burger as well. It's delicious. But these guys do a really good job at it. At Casa De Angelo, Adam asked a question. I think it's a good, fair question to ask you. Who, go ahead. You were asking a question about Mexicans. What did you ask him off camera? Because I think that's actually a good question. And he had a good answer for you.

• 9:16Speaker 06

  Oh, I said, who do, I was like, who are the Mexicans competitors? Who do you got beef with?

• 9:23Speaker 05

  And I, uh, my, my response was themselves. So it's, it's just growing up and being in that environment, it's always, we hated on each other for some odd reason.

• 9:34Speaker 06

  Really?

• 9:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 9:35Speaker 06

  Meaning like you don't want to see each other thrive and have success?

• 9:38Speaker 05

  It's like, I'm learning this new skill set. I don't want to teach it to you because you're, you're going to take my job. It's always.

• 9:43Patrick Bet-David?

  That competitiveness?

• 9:45Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 9:45Speaker 06

  Crabs in a bucket mentality?

• 9:46Speaker 05

  It was.

• 9:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen, just so you know, that's only in the Mexican community. That never happens in the Middle Eastern. That never happens to Syrians, Armenians, never happens to anybody else.

• 9:56Speaker 06

  Well, if it makes you feel any better, I have beef with one Mexican. His name is Ricardo Aguilar. He knows what to find me.

• 10:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's get right into it.

• 10:04Speaker 05

  We had a civil war.

• 10:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's get right into it. Let's get right into it. First story, Rob, if we want to go straight into, what was it? We said we're going to make our first story? Did we say, uh, um, did we say Davos, Rob? Let's go Davos. Let's go Davos. Uh, let's go Davos. Uh, and I want to see which one to go here with. All right, let's go with Gavin Newsom, since we're here with California. Gavin Newsom humiliated after he denied entry to Trump's Davos clubhouse for mocking boring speech as White House sends him X rated message. If you have the clip on this, if you have the clip on this Rob of him finding out, I don't know if you have that one where he finds out he's not gonna be on, do you know which one I'm talking about?

• 10:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, this is an actual, this is the screen grab of the shot that apparently the White House took at Gavin Newsom that's referenced in that article.

• 10:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's see that, so the failing governor of California rampant with fraud watches from the corner, what is that? Cock chair as President of the United States delivers a true masterclass on Davos, embarrassing. Rapid response 47. Is that an actual government account? Rob, is that a government account?

• 11:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I believe so, cuz if you take-

• 11:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Gray.

• 11:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, the official White House Rapid Response account.

• 11:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, so go back if you could, so Rapid Response and Newsom responds and says, if you can go back a little bit, go back one tweet, yeah, there you go. The President of the United States is at Davos addressing the world's top leaders and he still can't stop thinking about Gavin Newsom. We all know who's in the corner chair here and it's not Gavin. Okay. So then Gavin gets up on stage and gives this talk, Rob, if you wanna play the clip of him speaking, uh, the one with, is this the one with the kneepads?

• 11:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, sir.

• 11:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob.

• 11:55Speaker 07

  The new Trump signature series kneepads. Yeah, and they are available online. I told you, the last one sold out.

• 12:01Speaker 04

  And I wanna sort of-

• 12:05Speaker 07

  This is a serious moment.

• 12:06Speaker 04

  Serious moment.

• 12:07Speaker 07

  We laugh.

• 12:08Speaker 04

  Serious moment, we laugh.

• 12:10Speaker 07

  And in bulk, too. But I wanna, I wanna read you a couple of things the US government has said about you in the last 20-

• 12:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you go to that one when he continues to say what the government said about him? Go ahead, Rob.

• 12:21Speaker 07

  But I want to read you a couple of things the US government has said about you in the last 24 hours or so.

• 12:27Speaker 01

  How about the US government? It sounds ominous when you put it.

• 12:30Speaker 07

  The Treasury Secretary described you as Patrick Bateman meets Sparkle Beach Ken, the White House Communications Director.

• 12:37Speaker 01

  That was the US Secretary of Treasury.

• 12:41Speaker 07

  I have a couple more, and then you can respond. The White House Communications Director called you Gavin Newsom and an official White House account. The federal government described you with a, I'd say, very online sexual slur that people here probably don't want to hear at 8:30 in the morning. And you're, in some sense, responding in kind.

• 13:01Speaker 01

  Fight fire with fire.

• 13:03Speaker 07

  Do you think, should you, I mean, is that kind of discourse from you, from them, good for America?

• 13:07Speaker 01

  No, it's deeply unbecoming. Come on, of course it is. It's not what we should be doing. But you've got to point out the absurdity. You've got to put a mirror up to this. This is madness. You see what he's saying about European leaders, you talking down to people, talking past people. I mean, look, the comments he made yesterday, we're not even discussing, because you're discussing all the other comments about windmills or whatever else that was happening. Well, he talked about Somalia's community. This is not normal. It's a deviation of normalcy. We've got to call it out. So I put a mirror up to Trump, and Trump is not caps.

• 13:41Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. So, Tom, when you hear this, to me, no matter how much the right makes fun of Newsom on what he's saying, what he's doing, how he's irrelevant, how he's this, how he's that, everybody on the right is still talking about Newsom and nobody else. There is no Pritzker, there is no AOC, there is no anybody else on the left that they're talking about, except these guys. Is this the number-one guy way ahead where everybody realizes this is probably going to be their 2020 candidate on the Democratic side?

• 14:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, the object here is to put your name in the news and to be the opponent.

• 14:22Patrick Bet-David?

  And he's doing that.

• 14:22Tom Ellsworth?

  And Gavin Newsom is doing that. And he is a skilled guy in front of the media. He's a skilled politician. He's not a business guy. He hasn't accomplished anything. He's been a career politico, as they said. And that's all he's done. And while he was over there, you know, he is in everybody's head, and he is the topic of discussion, and he is the frontline opponent. It is interesting, he's not going to be re-elected again, and he seems to have turned his back on California, and I hope the majority of voters will look at that. While he was over there cosplaying as a diplomat, he's an American governor, but he's over there trying to get into rooms, trying to get on stage, really trying to interfere with what's going on in Davos and inject himself into the conversation.

• 15:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Wells Fargo announces that it's moving its wealth management division from San Francisco to West Palm Beach, Florida. So, you know, Ron DeSantis gets a spike the end zone. A couple hundred people are moving down there. Wells Fargo started in California to help the people during the gold rush and provide reliable banking 174 years ago. And now Wells Fargo is first major bank to relocate wealth operations to Florida. So while he's over there, he really seems to have turned his back on the economy of California, and these things are still here. But he is the guy that they're talking about.

• 15:45Tom Ellsworth?

  And every minute that goes by, the opportunity for everybody else to be that DNC candidate gets smaller.

• 15:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you do me a favor and go to my Twitter account? And Efren, I'm coming to you next on this. If you go to my Twitter account, yesterday CBS tweets this, okay? They put this out there, and the tweet gets 34 million views from CBS, okay? If you can go to, yeah, zoom in, but go to CBS's tweet, not mine. Go to the bottom to show the number. 35 million people saw this tweet. Look what it says. Murders plummeted more than 20% from the year before. The single largest one-year drop on record, and 2025 might be the lowest murder rate in the U.S. since 1900, a new study found.

• 16:29Patrick Bet-David?

  That's 125 years and so by the way, here's what you got to realize my opinion. The complete opposite of Trump. If you want to know that not the synonym, the antonym of Trump is Newsom. Okay, very simple. You got Trump making America safer, borders getting safer. You know, GDP is growing at a faster rate than inflation. You got California, the guys losing businesses, they're leaving the best of the best are choosing to leave. To go live at a different place, they're putting the wealth tax homelessness waste of money. You know what what's going on with the uh, the fraud that took place there, some are saying a quarter of a trillion dollars. Some are saying a half a trillion dollars of what's going on over there is the complete opposite person.

• 17:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So the people who hate Trump are going to choose to vote for Newsom. But they're going to get the complete different in economy and safety and everything that's taking place. Effron, you live in California, were born and raised in Huntington Park, not Huntington Beach Huntington Park. I'm familiar with the difference, you got a family of five. You're a business owner, you know, you you've done your thing with your family and you used to work at SpaceX. How do you feel as a resident of California with what Newsom is saying and doing?

• 17:37Speaker 05

  As disrespectful as if you're in politics, I understand that you go back and forth, right? And one of the things that for Gavin Newsom, if you're here in our country, yeah, that's gonna happen. But when you leave our country and you go somewhere else and you still continue the same banter. This doesn't look good for the US.

• 17:55Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're saying go to a different country in a different country, making fun of ourselves in front of them. That's not something you should be doing.

• 18:02Speaker 05

  No, you're in front of other world leaders. Now they're seeing if you want to attack the US, you see the weakest point, which is California and Gavin Newsom.

• 18:10Patrick Bet-David?

  You know who agrees with you, can you play that Stephen A. Smith clip? When he was talking about the Stephen A. just went off, I don't know if you guys saw this or not. He went off on Newsom, watch this clip here, folks.

• 18:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Respectfully, what are you doing?

• 18:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You're the governor of the state of California in the United States.

• 18:33Speaker 04

  of America.

• 18:36Speaker 04

  Why are you over in Davos, Switzerland? Talking to folks? And speaking negatively? About the President? Of the United States? I have no problem.

• 18:51Speaker 04

  With Gavin Newsom? Being? Candid? And open about his feelings? About our President? On United States soil? To go over? To another country? Switzerland? To go over? There? And to be? In the presence? Of other European leaders?

• 19:20Speaker 04

  Speaking against the President of the United States? I'm not down with that. Y'all might be, I'm not down with that? At all.

• 19:27Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. Efrain, why, why is that a problem? Why choose that problem?

• 19:31Speaker 05

  It's the same ass family, right? It's just why I tell my kids, if we're in housing, we're playing around with each other, calling each other's names, that's fine, but once you're outside and you're? Just talking shit to your brother or sister, that's not right. You're, you're saying to the world, that's okay for others to do the same.

• 19:49Speaker 05

  Same concept here.

• 19:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I love that. Vinnie, where are you at with this?

• 19:52Speaker 05

  Cut, just, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I have a lot to say about Gavin. But Stephen A. Smith, with all due respect? Gavin's gonna be the frontrunner. When it comes to election time, is he voting for a Democrat? Or is he gonna vote for a Republican? He said, I saw a video, he voted for Kamala. Number one. So my question is, even with this, and I get it, he's, yeah, you could protest and foot to the fire. Come election time, are you gonna vote Democrat? Cause that's the guy? Or are you gonna vote Republican? That's the real question, number one. Number two? Why, I, I was thinking about it when it happened. Why, there was no other United States governors? That flew and were invited to Davos, okay? Dr. Evil's son, Mini Me, Alex Soros, that was his little lapdog.

• 20:37Speaker 05

  Anytime you see a photo, guys, with Alex Soros holding a guy, that's the guy that they've bought and that's their guy, okay? With all due respect for all the Democrats, this is a warning for all of you, all right? California, this is who the Dems want. California leads number one in homelessness, top two worst housing affordability, highest poverty rate, number one, number two in highest unemployment rates among states, highest state income tax, and the highest gas taxes in America. This is your guy. This is who you guys want, all right? And there was another clip that Rob has, Rob, I could just say it, where he's sitting there and he's bragging about Medicaid and how he's out of the top 16 states. He says, "I don't care about your status, I don't care who you are",

• 21:21Speaker 05

  basically opening the window for illegals. "I'll give you healthcare if you're in California, I'm your guy." Is this it, Rob? Is this the Medicaid? Can you please play this? And I want to take away something from this.

• 21:33Speaker 07

  Do you think that your party went too far or that you went too far? And I think, for instance, you know, in extending Medi-Cal to the California healthcare program to undocumented immigrants?

• 21:44Speaker 01

  Well, two different questions.

• 21:46Speaker 07

  I guess on the big picture and the small picture, do you feel like you went too far?

• 21:49Speaker 01

  Two different questions. Do I believe in universal healthcare? Yes, regardless of pre-existing conditions, ability to pay, and your status.

• 21:55Speaker 05

  Status.

• 21:55Speaker 01

  Campaign on that, we delivered on that, and I'm proud of that. We're one of 16 states to provide care to people regardless of immigration status.

• 22:02Speaker 05

  So, listen to that. Regardless of your immigration status, the number one frontrunner for the Democratic Party is basically saying, "If you're an illegal and if you're in California, I'm gonna give you free healthcare." Translate that to, "Now I'm the president, I'm gonna open up the border to bring more illegals, cuz I got your back." That's gonna be his voting base. And the fact that he said, it's so funny, he goes with Trump, and he's going down with his kneepads, which is such a hack, he goes, "I'm gonna fight fire with fire." You know what? I bet Californians wish you fought fire with the firefighters, but there was no water, cuz you suck at your job. So it's a warning to all you Democrats. I'm telling you, guys, this is not the guy... They will undo every single thing that this guy has achieved

• 22:47Speaker 05

  for the past freaking year. It's been one year, and look at all we've accomplished.

• 22:52Tom Ellsworth?

  All right, real quick on Medicaid.

• 22:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Gavin Newsom's policies bankrupted hospitals. King Drew closed the emergency room in Los Angeles, which actually reduced the amount of services that were available because the amount of trauma hospitals that were there because his position on Medicaid bankrupted them. Point one. Point two, it doesn't matter where you're from. If you're vacationing from anywhere on planet Earth and you're stabbed, shot, or have a broken leg, you're gonna get Medicaid treatment in an emergency room in America. It's gonna happen. They're gonna look at you and say, "How are you gonna pay for this?" And then they're gonna figure it out later. But if you've had a heart attack in a restaurant, so you're from France, you have a heart attack in a New York restaurant, they're not gonna ask you for your insurance card and ambulance. They're gonna go get you treatment, say, "You know what?

• 23:40Tom Ellsworth?

  He's a French national." And you'll be covered under Medicaid and stay to New York, and then they go back to get it. So the whole Medicaid thing that he's playing games with, he bankrupted hospitals in the United States.

• 23:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I wanna show this next clip.

• 23:51Tom Ellsworth?

  But we are not a nation that turns people away.

• 23:53Patrick Bet-David?

  When Trump is speaking here, I wanna play this. Watch Newsom's reaction, listening to every word the president is giving. Go ahead, Rob.

• 24:02Speaker 06

  I call him Gavin.

• 24:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you guys seen this?

• 24:04Speaker 06

  Newscom. When you think about it, he's kinda retarded. People say he's gay because of the way he moves, you know? He's always doing his weird little dance when he talks, but I don't care about that. I just think he's incompetent and retarded. They say he likes to watch... Remember? His wife had sex with...

• 24:24Patrick Bet-David?

  No, by the way, is this a... Is this a... Yeah, Rob? That's definitely not what he said. That would've been the best. You got me. Okay, you fell for it. Rob, can you do me a favor? Rob, play the actual one that took place, because he's saying, "Gavin's actually a nice guy. Gavin's actually a nice guy."

• 24:49Tom Ellsworth?

  That's the version I heard.

• 24:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And then, watch this. Yeah, that was funny. Go ahead, Rob.

• 24:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Gavin when I was president, Gavin's a good guy. Watch this. Zoom in. He needed it, I would do it in a heartbeat.

• 25:05Patrick Bet-David?

  He's gonna hold it, he's gonna hold it, he's gonna hold it, he's gonna hold it, and he has to smile. Can't hold himself too long. Now, he ends up smiling, by the way. He ends up smiling when he's seeing it. So, they, they know, they know what's going on. And listen, there's optics. There's behind closed doors when you bump into him and you're talking to him. So you have to realize, they know this is their guy. They know he's gonna be running. Adam, where are you at with this?

• 25:26Speaker 06

  Well, here's the three words that scare me and that should scare the crap out of you. President Gavin Newsom. So I'm wondering if this is the biggest moment of Gavin Newsom's life, the World Economic Forum, Trump's addressing him in front of the world on the world stage. And I'm wondering this, is this that Obama-Trump moment? That solidifies Gavin running. I think we all know he's running. Remember that moment? When Obama called out Trump and he goes, at least I'm a president, or at least I'm a two, whatever it was. That he looked at Donald Trump and Donald Trump, sitting with Melania, says, okay buddy, 2015, I see you. Could this be the moment that motivates Gavin Newsom to say, I'm ready for this?

• 26:10Speaker 06

  That scares me and it should scare you. Number two, what is Gavin Newsom's biggest accomplishment? I'll wait, fighting homelessness, fighting crime, the Green New Scam? I don't know what it is, but I can't think of one. I'll let you guys debate that.

• 26:28Speaker 06

  But here's the deal, policies don't matter, because most people, I would say 80% electorate, just vote on personality and persona. And if you don't believe me, he has the look. How many people that have run for president? That are under six foot, that are overweight, that are not good looking, are in the dustbin of history, that have not been the president? He has the look with no accomplishments. You know, they say when you play a game in the NFL, well, on paper, J.D. Van should win. On paper, the Patriots should win, but that's why you play the game? He's gonna play the game and we're gonna see what happens.

• 27:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you do me a favor? Go to ChatGPT and type in, what is Gavin Newsom's biggest accomplishment? Actually, watch what ChatGPT announces, okay?

• 27:15Patrick Bet-David?

  What is Gavin Newsom's biggest accomplishment? Climate leadership and clean energy. Leadership. Okay. Expansion. Healthcare expansion and innovation. For illegals. Housing and homelessness initiative. Didn't they lose? Initiatives, not accomplishments. So do you realize everything it talks about on accomplishments is initiative? It's not specific. Okay. What is Trump's biggest accomplishment? Boom, boom, boom. What is? He's gonna have to have some things. And by the way, if he goes against Rubio, or if he goes against JD, and specifically more Rubio, if they want to talk about what they have, this guy's resume is getting stacked

• 28:00Patrick Bet-David?

  on things that he's actually done on the highest level. And, yeah, Rubio. I mean JD even, he made it in free market. He competed a little bit. Of course, there's some criticism on, you know, what happened there. But he's got that as well. It's gonna be interesting. Vinny, I'll give you the final thoughts here before we move on.

• 28:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, but my question is, because I want to know your opinion is, from a tactical standpoint, from a campaign, he's just going after Trump, okay? Now, I want to know, where is the shift gonna come? Because right now, Trump isn't running. It's almost as if Gavin is training to fight John Jones, but he's actually gonna wind up fighting George St. Pierre. It's, you're not fighting that guy. So I'm very curious if, is this like on purpose, Pat? Or is this a stupid? Okay, Trump, evil Hitler, kneepads, this. Well, when is it gonna turn into, okay, now it's Rubio and everything that I said about Trump, now I gotta shift it?

• 28:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I actually like the strategy. By the way, it's getting in the room. I like what he's doing a lot. Vinny, that's all he needs to do right now. Yeah, I actually like the strategy. That's all he needs to do. How am I speaking? I actually like the strategy and what he's doing. And I like that he's going after the top, because if he goes after the top, everybody else is secondary. If he goes after anybody below him, he is picking candidates. He's going for the head. He's going for the throne. He's going for that. And then everybody else has to... Come after him, he's making them attack him. It's a brilliant strategy that he's doing. And all this stuff that's going on here, it's just more and more fire for his campaign for 2028.

• 29:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I think Democrats are probably sitting around saying, yes, yes, get after him, do what you're doing. This is awesome. Rob, just on CNN, two days ago, okay? Scott Jennings, they got this guy who's on there making claims about President Trump and, you know, human trafficking and what is it, sex trafficking, protecting the traffickers. And then Scott Jennings looks at the host and says, are you really gonna let this happen? He says, I'm the host, let me do my job. Rob, do you have that clip? There's two clips I want to show with this. One is this, then it's the Scott Jennings Illegal Immigrants, then it's the Chris Cuomo. But let's start off with this one first.

• 30:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch what happens here and how Scott Jennings tries very hard to prevent a lawsuit from happening. Go ahead, Rob.

• 30:26Speaker 04

  He's basically playing risk because people hurt his feelings or people ostensibly hurt his feelings. So I am appreciative that the president is being transparent about this. I would love it if he was more transparent about the human sex trafficking network that he was a part of. But you can't win them all. Cameron's grateful that the president is being transparent about the Nobel Peace Prize and his designers for Greenland, Scott. What do you think about that?

• 30:47Tom Ellsworth?

  You gonna let that sit? Are we gonna claim here on CNN that the president is part of a global sex trafficking ring?

• 30:52Speaker 04

  Or? Well, we're gonna talk about the Epstein files. Scott, I will do the fact checking. I'm just gonna go along here. Repeat what you said about the global sex trafficking ring? That Donald Trump was provably very involved with it. Okay, we'll get to that later. I mean, Donald Trump has never been charged with any crimes in relation to Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, but let's be adults here. We'll talk about the Epstein files here. Satisfied?

• 31:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it, so we can read it, pause it. On this was- I would like to retract my comments from CNN last night and truly apologize. Donald Trump was obviously not involved with a giant international child sex trafficking rink, where women and children were systematically raped by elites. I said that by accident and didn't mean it. You said it twice. Doubled down. You said it twice. And by the way, Scott Jennings is, to me, the CEO of CNN, because he keeps protecting these guys. And he's sitting there saying, "What the hell are you talking about, Rob?" If you can go to the illegal immigrant comment that he defends first, because the lady's like, "Stop saying illegal immigrants." Okay. Not this one. Go to Scott Jennings' clip first. So, then there's another clip with Scott Jennings, is talking to this one lady, and this lady, I believe,

• 32:01Patrick Bet-David?

  keeps saying, "Stop using the phrase illegal immigrants." Is it a lady or is it a guy? Uh, uh, it's about illegal immigrants. It, it, it says- It says right here, this guy. Is that the one? It's the same guy. It's the same guy. Well, I said lady. He's pretty. Go, go ahead, play, uh-

• 32:16Speaker 05

  You don't get to say the word "illegal" anymore. And you have the diverse- The percentage-

• 32:20Speaker 04

  Who are you to tell me what I can and can't? I've never met you, brother. I can say whatever I want. They're illegal aliens, and that's what the law calls them, illegal aliens. That's what I'm gonna call them. As for our conversation, we-

• 32:31Speaker 05

  You don't get to-

• 32:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to the beginning, because I don't hear what he said at the beginning. What, what did the other guy say at the beginning? Press it.

• 32:37Speaker 05

  You don't get to say the word "illegal" anymore.

• 32:40Patrick Bet-David?

  And you have the diverse-

• 32:41Speaker 04

  I don't? Who are you to tell me what I can and can't? I've never met you, brother. I can say whatever I want. They're illegal aliens, and that's what the law calls them, illegal aliens.

• 32:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't get to say illegal immigrants anymore, illegal aliens anymore? So now here's Chris Cuomo's response.

• 32:54Tom Ellsworth?

  But unpack that, Pat. You don't get to.

• 32:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 32:56Tom Ellsworth?

  As if we've decided what you can say.

• 32:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Who are you? By the way, I actually really wanna know who this kid is. Who are you? Go ahead. Here's Chris.

• 33:02Speaker 06

  You know who he is?

• 33:03Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 33:03Speaker 06

  He was a survivor of the Parkland shooting.

• 33:07Patrick Bet-David?

  He's like a David Hogg.

• 33:08Speaker 06

  He, he makes David Hogg look masculine. Put it that way.

• 33:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, I got it. Go ahead. Here's Chris. You see this clip of Scott Jennings saying, "How you gonna enforce it? How you gonna enforce me not-"

• 33:19Speaker 04

  saying the word illegals anymore. How you gonna do that? Say illegals anymore because ICE is directly targeting legal citizens of this country. And I How are you gonna enforce your edict on me? Just out of curiosity. Listen, I understand. Just listen to his point about illegal. What are you, bully now? What are you, tough guy? Because you're talking to this kid who happens to be right? Calling people illegals? They're called illegal aliens in the law. And you know what? A long time ago, Republicans and Democrats switched to undocumented. Why? Because it seemed inhuman. That's why. They changed the vernacular and you know it. But that's not the point. The point is. How are you gonna do it? What are you gonna do? What are you? You're a tough guy now, huh?

• 34:01Speaker 04

  I thought you were just supposed to be the simpering, uh, but you know, open to conversation.

• 34:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You're a pauser right there. What do you, what do you think about this?

• 34:09Speaker 05

  Well, first of all, I don't know what Chris was doing before he made this video. His hair is insane. He's sweating. I don't know where all that, that testosterone is out. Uh, and it's, but, but by the way, Chris, with all due respect, he's one of the guys that said, when it comes to illegals, he said, uh, illegals, uh, immigrants murdering Americans was an artificial problem. So I don't know where the anger comes from. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with CNN and how Scott Jennings is literally, you call him the CEO. He is the star of CNN. He's the only person that makes it watchable. I have my own opinion. I wish he wasn't on there because I don't want to give them any viewership or anybody for them to keep pushing their propaganda. That's my opinion. But I don't, I think this has layers of just bitterness towards CNN.

• 34:54Speaker 05

  Uh, because he's the, he's the star of CNN. The only reason you could even watch anything of Abby Fil- he made CNN great again.

• 35:04Patrick Bet-David?

  For sure.

• 35:04Speaker 05

  I can't believe I'm saying that right now.

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• 36:07Speaker 06

  I love Chris Cuomo like a big brother, but brother, you're dead wrong on this. Because this is all about feelings. And I'll tell you when you lost your right to, for anyone to care about feelings of this vernacular. When you let tens of millions of people in the country under Biden, facts don't care about your feelings. Tom Homan said at least 10 million, and Trump says it could be more. Once that happened, sorry, guys, feelings are out the window. Illegal aliens, undocumented migrants, whatever you want to call them, they're in the country illegally. That's it.

• 36:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Ephraim, where do you stand with this?

• 36:47Speaker 05

  Same. It's just the words. The facts are that you are here illegally, whether illegal aliens or undocumented, and it means the same. So why get worked up over a word?

• 36:59Patrick Bet-David?

  What is it really, though? Is it really like, so illegal alien, you're illegally here, alien, that's undocumented, what's the...

• 37:08Speaker 06

  It's making, it's softening the language. It's softening the language like how America has done throughout the past. It's like they take all these words that are exactly the definition. You broke the law. You illegally came here. It's about feelings. You made a great point. It's undocumented. No, no, no. You're here illegally. It's like when they change the word shell shock. They change all these words to soften language to make everybody calm. Yeah, it's this whole thing that's happened over the last 15 years. And it's called Politically Correct Speech in America, and you can dive into it. And this is, and it comes from the left. Where it comes from the left is things like this. They actually pushed, and you can go look at this, three years ago in the middle of COVID, they didn't...

• 37:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Want news media folks to use the word pedophile, Pat. You know what they were proposing? Minor attracted person. Remember this? They wanted to call him minor attracted person. Because that way, it doesn't sound so bad. And we have to have feelings. These are the same people that want to decriminalize what the criminals do. So they also want to use politically correct words to make the criminals, who you want to decriminalize, not sound so bad. And I don't speak to Chris's opinion on bullying or not. I'll leave him to talk to Scott Jennings about that. But what Chris is talking about, and Chris, I respect you, but you're kind of going back to this politically correct speech. They are illegal aliens.

• 38:36Tom Ellsworth?

  And yes, everyone didn't agree to change the vernacular, politically correct folks on the Republican and Democrat side. And that's why we had the Tea Party, because not all Republicans agree. That's why I have MAGA, because not all Republicans agree. You know, we're saying, okay, maybe we'll go undocumented immigrant. But wait a minute. Undocumented means technically, if I'm pulled over by the police, and I'm speeding, I'm doing 75 on I-95. Okay, they pull me over, I don't have my driver's license. Technically, Pat, I'm an undocumented speeder. This guy was speeding, but he has no documentation. And what do you do? So to say undocumented person, they almost wanted to create a sense that they're potentially legal.

• 39:21Tom Ellsworth?

  It's all about the politically correct speech. And guess what? Many people, including me, have had enough of it. Let's just call it what it is.

• 39:28Speaker 06

  Pat, I looked it up.

• 39:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Minor attracted person.

• 39:31Speaker 06

  Yeah, Tom, that was a great one. And I can't show any videos, Robbie, because it's George Carlin. But he said, we've gotten into this soft language. God rest his soul, my favorite comedian. He goes, we went from shell shock to, which is the word, shell shock, because of the war, to post-traumatic stress disorder. We went from killing civilians, change it to collateral damage. Lying, misinformation, disinformation. Not, you're not fat, it's body positive. Everything, dead soldiers became fallen heroes. It's softening the language, Pat, but we have to call it what it is and keep on that. You're illegal, period. End of story.

• 40:08Speaker 04

  Sir, those are all great examples, but I'll give you the primary example. They made a documentary called What is a Woman? And they couldn't define it. We played a clip last week of Josh Hawley asking whatever fraud doctor, can men get pregnant? Well, you have to understand, can men get pregnant? Pat, how many times they repeat that question?

• 40:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Eleven.

• 40:32Speaker 04

  Eleven times. So all these birthing persons or these menstruating persons, they're women. And just like these soft words, what did Biden call the illegal immigrants? Newcomers. Come on, guys. We're newcomers, as if they're Christopher Columbus finding the new world. To me, it's all soft feminine language to make people feel warm and fuzzy and not addressing the real problem.

• 40:57Tom Ellsworth?

  So Gavin Newsom was an adulterer in that instance? He was a newcomer.

• 41:01Speaker 04

  Oh, whoa.

• 41:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Tom. He is so funny, Tom, but inappropriate, but we'll cross the line afterwards. Okay, Greenland, let's talk about Greenland. Trump announces framework for Greenland deal, won't say if US ownership still needed. Okay, so check this out, when they're going through this, the position change a few times at Davos, okay? But here's a president with a tweet, based upon a very productive meeting I had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Ruddy, we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect of Greenland and in fact, the entire Arctic region, this solution if consummated

• 41:45Patrick Bet-David?

  will be a great one for the United States, America and all NATO nations. Based upon this understanding, I will not be imposing the tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect on February 1st. Additional discussions are being held concerning the Golden Dome as it pertained to Greenland. Further information will be made available as discussion progresses. And he's got the rest that's there. This was a topic of discussion, Rob, I don't know what clips you have on this, from Davos, there was multiple, multiple conversations. So, you know, is this him talking about it?

• 42:17Tom Ellsworth?

  This is why, this is him explaining why we need Greenland because of what happened in World War II.

• 42:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob, go ahead. We saw this in World War II, when Denmark fell to Germany after just...

• 42:29Speaker 04

  Six hours of fighting and was totally unable to defend either itself or Greenland. So the United States was then compelled, we did it, we felt an obligation to do it, to send our own forces to hold the Greenland territory and hold it, we did, at great cost and expense. They didn't have a chance of getting on it and they tried. Denmark knows that. We literally set up bases on Greenland for Denmark. We fought for Denmark. We weren't fighting for anyone else. We were fighting to save it for Denmark. Big, beautiful piece of ice. It's hard to call it land.

• 43:12Speaker 04

  It's a big piece of ice. But we saved Greenland and successfully prevented our enemies from gaining a foothold in our hemisphere. So we did it for ourselves also. And then after the war, which we won, we won it big. Without us, right now you'd all be speaking German and a little Japanese perhaps. After the war, we gave Greenland back to Denmark. How stupid were we to do that? But we did it. But we gave it back. But how ungrateful are they now?

• 43:51Speaker 04

  So now our country and the world face much greater risks than it did ever before because of missiles, because of nuclear, because of weapons of warfare that I can't even talk about.

• 44:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Tom, I'm gonna come to you first. Your thoughts on this and the advancement they're making.

• 44:09Tom Ellsworth?

  So he's making a very good point. And by the way, I've said this before, I'm gonna say it again. The reason you're not hearing hard criticism from Department of Defense in Germany and in the UK, because those are anchors of NATO and they understand what's needed. And by the way, if you take a look at a map and you look where Finland is, Mermansk is right next door to the Finland border and that is where the USSR, you know, built the base. Now we know it is Russia. But when the Soviet Union, everything was there, these things were built. Mermas is where all of the nuclear subs are. And it's literally, literally, less than 100 miles from the Finland border there.

• 44:53Tom Ellsworth?

  And so you, up at the Arctic Circle. So there is a need, a deep, deep need for Greenland to be positioned and equipped as a strategic defense source. And if you also just look at the map of Greenland, when you talk about a dome for North America, and by the way, NORAD protects Canada, Canada and its 2.3 trillion GDP, which is less than half of California, Greenland is an important piece of the North American dome against Russian missiles. And by the way, if you look at the East Coast, right by Iceland, look how well that's positioned

• 45:37Tom Ellsworth?

  to help provide defense of missiles and navy to Northern Atlantic area. You know, Northern Atlantic, as in the Northern Atlantic Treaty Organization, known as NATO? This is strategic. And I think that what people need to understand, it's not about the minerals, although they just said that they'd be happy to do a mineral deal yesterday, they said it. There's no argument on that now. It is strategic for defense. And every time there's naval exercises up there, Denmark doesn't have the money to pay for it. So Denmark, you know what? The days of colonialism are over. No one's going to militarily take this.

• 46:19Tom Ellsworth?

  We need a deal done for the defense of our hemisphere and to support NATO. And Trump, as a leader, is walking through this mosh pit of criticism from people that are politicizing it and they're not paying attention to where Russia is and the strategic importance of defending the West.

• 46:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny.

• 46:41Speaker 06

  Well, Rob, can you put up that chart I sent you on Slack? Look at, look at, like, this is where Greenland is, it's like the crossroads of North America, Europe and the Arctic. Tom, you made a great point. They do have like, look at where the Russia bases are. There's a Pit, Pitufic space base right there. This is, and by the way, the melting ice is opening the shorter of Asia-Europe shipping routes. So it's boosting the region's military and economic importance. But look, it's, it's missile early warning systems.

• 47:10Speaker 06

  You nailed it. It's about deterrence. It's about supply chain security. And listen, I, I want a president that's going on offense. We're not playing defense. He's not sitting around trolling his thumbs. I absolutely love the movement. When you saw that chart that, that you did earlier, how big of a gap having that. And I love that the news is making like, we're going to come in, we're going to invade and take over. No, it's a deal. We need you. You're going to make money. So I think it has to happen. That chart says it all.

• 47:35Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, that little box there, you've got a great chart you pulled up, Benny. Thank you for doing this. Jiuk, Greenland, Iceland, UK gap. That is incredibly strategic. That's where the nuke subs come and go.

• 47:48Speaker 06

  Weird.

• 47:48Tom Ellsworth?

  And that first dot on the right-hand side, where that arrow comes down, that is the, that is Finland, Russia border, and that's Murmansk. And that is the equivalent of, of their Groton, Connecticut, because that's where we launch all of our nuclear subs from. Adam.

• 48:07Speaker 06

  Yeah, Trump's gonna take Greenland. That's all I gotta say. I don't know how he's gonna do it. I don't know when he's gonna do it. I don't know what's gonna happen. But much like the Godfather movie, we're gonna make him an offer they can't refuse. They're not gonna refuse this. How many people live in Greenland? Fifty-six thousand? That's an NFL Sunday football stadium, just emptying out with footballs and pads and just taking over Greenland. Nobody's scared of Greenland. By the way, everyone now has an opinion on Greenland. Trump does these things and makes people, oh, we, why would we do Greenland? You've never thought of Greenland? You've never heard of Greenland? Greenland, tell me one artist in Greenland, tell me that one movie, tell me one cultural phenomenon that's

• 48:50Speaker 06

  nobody knows about Greenland. Now if Trump and grownups are saying we need this land for minerals, for protection, for defense, for blocking China and blocking Russia, we're gonna take Greenland. That's it.

• 49:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Efren, do you have any opinions on this?

• 49:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, so I agree with Vinnie. We now have a president that's actually looking ahead decades ahead versus just the next four year terms, right? So I, I, I love what he's doing. And like, like Adam said, if he didn't mention Greenland, no one else would be talking about Greenland.

• 49:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Yeah, I, I love it. And I love the fact that, you know, yesterday he's like, oh, you know what? Yeah, you know, so since we're part of NATO, this invasion that happened at our border, did you guys come and help us out? When, when everything that's going on with us, did you guys come and support us for anything? Maybe we should have put NATO to the test, invoke Article 5 and force NATO to come here and protect our southern border uh, from further invasion of illegal immigrants, thus freeing up a large number of Border Patrol agents for other tasks. Maybe we should have. What, what happened? You don't want to do that? Oh, maybe we should leave NATO. Even, you know, there was some talks about what would happen if US left NATO? And they're sitting there saying, no, you can't do that. We need you to protect us.

• 50:03Patrick Bet-David?

  There was the Finnish, the Finland leader is being asked about if Europe can defend itself without America. Look at the answer, folks, and watch how quickly he changes his position. Rob, did we show this on, uh, we haven't shown this yet. Watch this. It's comical what he says 11 minutes later. Go ahead, Rob. First is a direct answer to the question of this panel, can Europe defend itself? My answer is unequivocally yes. Without the Americans? Uh, without the Americans. I mean, How? Well, look, But you were lying on them for these key.

• 50:35Speaker 07

  You've said earlier that Europe can defend itself without the Americans. If it comes down. Not exact, Mike, so that's not a quote.

• 50:48Speaker 07

  More or less, more or less. Let's. We'll go back to the transcript. More or less.

• 50:54Patrick Bet-David?

  11 minutes later. I love journalists. You don't need journalists. Can you imagine somebody texted him and says, hey, just so you know, we're screwed if America doesn't protect us. Change your tone ASAP, right? So, I mean, look, I love the fact that he went in. He gave his message. He's even looking to his left on one of the speeches he gave. He says, you know, it's funny, you know, I look at these guys here. Every once in a while, there's two or three I don't like. But it's funny, in this list, I like everybody. Did you have that clip, Rob, when he's looking at everybody on the world leaders and he's just kind of smiling and you see the leader of Azerbaijan there, you see the leader of Armenia there, you see all these presidents and prime ministers

• 51:36Patrick Bet-David?

  are now supportive of him. Larry Fink brought him up. You know, it's a very, very different environment that is taking place today. I think that's the one, Rob, if I'm not mistaken. Go ahead, Rob.

• 51:49Speaker 07

  Right, they're friends of mine. I think, let me see. Yeah, every one of them is a friend of mine. A couple, a couple, let's see, a couple I like, a couple I don't like. I like, actually, this group, I like every single one of them. Can you believe it? Usually I have about two or three that I can't stand. Usually I have two or three that I don't like. I don't find them up here. I like every one of these people. No, they're great people. They're great leaders. And the Board of Peas is composed of.

• 52:19Patrick Bet-David?

  So, this leads to the Border Peas. And then, this morning, he tweets something to Canada. Rob, I don't know if you have that one or not. While this is going on, he comes out and he says, hey, Canada, after the message he gave, Carney gave about America, not too complimentary. He says, Dear Prime Minister Carney, please let this letter serve to present that the Board of Peas has withdrawn its invitation to you regarding Canada's joining what will be the most prestigious Board of Leaders ever assembled at any time. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 52:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Well.

• 52:56Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, I don't understand what Carney was trying to accomplish with this criticism. I don't understand what he was trying to negotiate. I mean, honestly, you can look at the trade deals, you can look at, you know, Sons and Daughters of NAFTA and things to be done, but Pat, I honestly don't know what Carney was trying to accomplish, other than making a political speech to look strong against Trump for the liberal mob, the dozens of them in Canada that are supporting him. I really think that he was just kind of playing... There used to be an old thing where they would say, "Hey, you know, you're really not making any sense. You're preaching to the choir, meaning that you're not converting anybody in the church, you're not sending a message of peace and salvation out. You've

• 53:41Tom Ellsworth?

  really turned around and you're just preaching to the choir." And I feel like that's what Carney did. He was just sort of talking to himself into the echo chamber and trying to look tough on Trump. $2.3 trillion GDP versus $31 trillion, and the $31 trillion is providing defense and economic support and all the things we do. It's not that we don't have disagreements between the countries, but I don't know what Carney was trying to do. And now, Trump comes back and says, "All right, well, sorry you feel that way. I don't need you on the board of peace."

• 54:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so by the way, when I'm looking at the list that will join the board, you've got Argentina, Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Belarus, Bulgaria, Egypt, Hungary, Indonesia, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Morocco, Mongolia, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, UAE, Uzbekistan, Vietnam. Countries that will not join the board, at least for now. France, Norway, Slovenia, Sweden, UK. Keir Starmer came out and said, "We will not be joining the border peace." Rob, I don't know if you have that. He almost tripped and fell on his face. I don't know if you guys saw that clip or not. We didn't follow him, but if you have the one that he's not going to be joining. Countries that have been invited but remain noncommittal. Cambodia, China, Croatia, Cyprus, Germany, Greece,

• 54:58Patrick Bet-David?

  India, Italy, European Union Executive Arm, Paraguay, Russia, Singapore, Thailand, Ukraine. He's invited almost everybody, okay? He's invited almost everybody. Adam, your thoughts on why this happened with Canada?

• 55:09Speaker 06

  So, everyone wants to look tough until they get into the ring with a real tough guy. You know, what's the famous quote from Mike Tyson? "Everyone's got a plan until you get punched in the mouth." In my opinion, the thing that happened with Maduro, when we came in, out of nowhere, boom, boom, boom, within an hour, we got your leader, got your hat, shout out to Jake Paul, and all of a sudden, the rest of the world goes, oh, wow, the president of Colombia, Petro, who's talking trash about Trump, all of a sudden, he's like, hey, mi voy a la casa de huayos, I'm gonna come visit you. Keir Starmer acts real tough in the UK, all of a sudden, hello, President Trump, here's the greatest gift I have ever given anybody.

• 55:52Speaker 06

  So everyone gets real tough when they're trying to look tough in front of their constituents, to the people back home, but when they're sitting in a room with their real boss, with their real G, all of a sudden, they're sitting up straight, they're using a proper accent, and they're playing very nice. The last thing I'll say is this, Larry Fink, who's the CEO of BlackRock, arguably, one of the top two or three most powerful men in the world economically, he goes, guys, can we get more seats at the World Economic Forum? We have no more seats left, it's a packed house, because, quote unquote, the most important leader in the world is about to speak. That's how you know what's going on. Don't listen to these weak,

• 56:37Speaker 06

  woke, weird leaders, listen to people, follow the money, listen to people like Larry Fink.

• 56:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's Keir Starmer, by the way, if you want to play the Keir Starmer clip, Rob, of him being asked about it, here's Keir Starmer from UK, go ahead.

• 56:51Speaker 01

  ... being on a board of PC, he is waging war on a European country, and as we sit here, they're raining down bombs on Ukraine, it's minus 20, 60% of the energy in Kiev is gone, and people are having to put tents up in their living rooms to keep warm, and we mustn't let the events of the last week or

• 57:13Patrick Bet-David?

  deflect from the focus, we need to work with the Americans, allies and others to defend and support Ukraine in a conflict which is not of their making, Putin being on a board. Yeah, I mean, look, it's as this is happening, the question is, you say what you want to say, how long can you keep that position? You know, you can, you can act tough and say whatever you want, is it leading to diplomacy? Are your people hurting for it? Okay, is Canada hurting for the positions they take in with Trump? I don't know, time will tell. But what seems to be a common pattern is they go and then they come back. They go and then they

• 57:55Patrick Bet-David?

  come back. That seems to be a common pattern on what's happening here. And we'll see this obviously as stories updates even more about this. We'll see more on what moves going to be taking place. Now, in regards to Iran, couple of things happened with Iran. Yesterday, a picture was going viral all over the place of Reza Pahlavi seen with Korea Marina Machado. Rob, if you can, if we can zoom in on the tweet so I can read the tweet as well. I don't know if you can do that. There you go. At the pleasure of meeting Reza Pahlavi, we exchange insights on respective struggles and align our efforts, shared purpose, the liberation of Iran and Venezuela. I express my deep admiration for the Iranian people. As authoritarian regime deepens their criminal cooperation, those of us who stand for freedom, the alliance

• 58:37Patrick Bet-David?

  of Caracas and Tehran has turned Venezuela into a epicenter of Iranian influence, jeopardizing the security of the entire Western Hemisphere. The survival of these regimes is not only a tragedy for our citizens, who overwhelmingly, at least if you're going to use chat GPT, clean it up, by using Venezuela as a primary platform, the Iranian regime fuels instability, terrorism and transnational criminal networks that expand, extend far beyond our networks, a free Iran and a free Venezuela, more than just goals. Okay, so you see this picture. I was like, oh, my God, look what's going on. Why are they together? It's the right people to be together. They have a lot in common. The difference is Maria Corina Machado lives in Venezuela. She's there every day. She's been there her entire life, pretty much. She's been involved

• 59:22Patrick Bet-David?

  there. She's with her people. Reza Pahlavi has been outside for 48 years independently. He's not been in Iran. She is. However, both of them have a lot in common. Their countries, you know, the leader of Iran was replaced Maduro, okay, which is no longer there. He's in New York or wherever he's at now at this place. He could be in DC or in New York. You know, where the moment Maduro failed, president didn't come in and automatically give it to Edmundo Gonzalez or Maria Corina Machado. It's like, no, let's just do another election and see what happens. Now, on the streets, everybody is saying, well, something's about to happen to Khamenei. There's reports that Lazard CEO Peter Orzog predicts something

• 1:00:07Patrick Bet-David?

  big that happens in Iran over the next few days. And by the way, this is a story from yesterday. Rob, is this the clip of him talking about it? Go for it.

• 1:00:14Speaker 04

  I think it's very likely that over the next few days, there will be something that happens in Iran.

• 1:00:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You do?

• 1:00:19Speaker 04

  It might be something big, yes.

• 1:00:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do you think that?

• 1:00:21Speaker 04

  I did, well, from a variety of different, you know,

• 1:00:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Sources?

• 1:00:26Speaker 04

  indirect information. And also, to your point, I think it's entirely possible the United States was waiting for the carriers to arrive. Was waiting for them, sorry. For the carriers to arrive.

• 1:00:38Patrick Bet-David?

  And that this is just, so that the Greenland story is a head fake?

• 1:00:42Speaker 04

  I don't know about a head fake, but it has the fact of, it has that effect even if that's not the intent. And, and that would mean what? How does that play out if that's actually the case? Then the big question becomes, can you actually do regime change through effectively a bombing campaign? And I don't think we have any history in which that's effective, but we'll see. It depends what the objective of what happens is. If it's to take out the ballistic missiles, that can be successful. If it's regime change, you know, that, that's got a more checkered history.

• 1:01:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so now you watch this and watch what happens next. Couple of stories. The president says the following. He says Iran claims, Trump claims Iran does not want to talk, does want to talk, and will talk as he rolls out border piece. Is this it, Rob?

• 1:01:29Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a short clip, but yes.

• 1:01:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:01:35Patrick Bet-David?

  And we'll talk.

• 1:01:38Speaker 01

  That's it.

• 1:01:38Patrick Bet-David?

  That's, that's a long clip, Rob. That is the shortest clip we've ever put up. That was phenomenal, right? But he commented about this in passing at Davos. Establishing an international border peace and overseas ceasefire between Israel and Hamas in the Gaza Strip. And then while this is going on, Iran protests, numbers are looking at 20,000 plus. Some reports are saying 30,000. Some have even said 50,000. The lowest number you read everywhere is around 3,500 to 4,500 killings. I've seen the videos, the videos that are being sent, some of them were sent to me this morning. Absolutely devastating, tragic to even take a look at. Number of people reported killed in Iran's protest Krasanah surge with one UN special reporter

• 1:02:22Patrick Bet-David?

  saying the total could be around 20,000 US-based human rights activists. News agency said it's verified 5,002 deaths. And is reviewing a further 9787 while more than 26,000 people have been arrested. Iranian authorities reported 3117 deaths and of which 2427 are considered innocent. Including members of the security forces but doesn't provide a breakdown to refer to any civilians. And by the way, this is what they had to say yesterday. Iran warns Trump not to take action against the Supreme Leader Khamenei. Rob, if you want to play this clip, go forward.

• 1:03:00Speaker 01

  [speaking Russian] [speaking Russian] [speaking Russian]

• 1:03:13Patrick Bet-David?

  He says Trump's military reminds me of Hitler that got stuck in Russia.

• 1:03:16Speaker 01

  I wonder where he got that rhetoric.

• 1:03:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Iran is like the Russian winter.

• 1:03:24Speaker 01

  [speaking Russian]

• 1:03:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't want a long one, I will carry out one short attack.

• 1:03:31Speaker 01

  [speaking Russian]

• 1:03:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think Iran would agree to that? We advise you to hold back, do not advance any further.

• 1:03:48Speaker 01

  [speaking Russian]

• 1:03:57Patrick Bet-David?

  ...that you've been in 50 years. We have to be careful with this. Yes, it's a serious matter, but our armed forces are ready. We are ready to shoot. Not only do we have our finger on the trigger. The bullet is already chambered. And we are ready. Mr. Trump, every night, he thinks Iran is oil.

• 1:04:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so how do you process that? Because Tucker said the other day, he said he believes, I think, Rob, if you want to find this tweet, Tucker said he believes the Middle East would be safer, I'm paraphrasing, we can validate, that if Iran had nuclear weapons, right? He, I think he said that, again, right there, Rob, go above it, go above with the Iranian flag. No, no, that one, go a little bit lower, Rob, right there, right in front of you, right there. Rob, right above it, Rob.

• 1:04:54Speaker 06

  Yeah, that one.

• 1:04:54Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, right, right there, that one right there, yeah, there you go. Is that what it's saying, Rob? There you go, Tucker Carlson says a nuclear armed Iran could deter attacks, limit US and Israeli intervention, and reduce pressure on Tehran, potentially stabilizing the region and making war or regime change less likely. Vinny, do you agree?

• 1:05:16Speaker 06

  The, I just, just so I'm, I'm, because I, I'm not, you know, geopolitically, you know, versed that much. Is he talking about the same Iran that says death to America?

• 1:05:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:05:26Speaker 06

  Who just makes sure, is that the?

• 1:05:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:05:28Speaker 06

  Okay, I absolutely disagree with him 1,000%. And going back to the, who was the CEO? Of what was it?

• 1:05:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, which one is this, Rob?

• 1:05:38Tom Ellsworth?

  This is from the Tucker Carlson Network, um, this is.

• 1:05:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, thank you for finding this. So could the Iranians obtaining the bomb, uh,

• 1:05:46Speaker 06

  Wind up being?

• 1:05:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Wind up of being a good thing? Whether anyone in the foreign policy establishment admits it, North Korea's nuclearization has undeniably stabilized the Korean Peninsula. The region has seen no wars, coups, or interventionist forced regime changes since 06. Would Iran becoming a nuclear power have the same effect on its region? Could it finally prompt America to leave the area alone and incentivize Israel to drop its stated goal of continuing controlling the Gaza Strip and weaken the West Bank? Would it make the Iranian government less oppressive? Because it wouldn't have to worry about the West's constant decapitation ambitions. Vinny?

• 1:06:20Speaker 06

  We're talking about a regime in a country that currently, and by the way, obviously you're not gonna believe their numbers, over 20,000 civilians, they're not getting killed because they're riding each other. The government is shooting and killing people protesting because they have had enough. We didn't come in there, whatever stupid story you heard of other countries coming in and starting this revolution. It became, it's a breaking point for these people, okay? They're starving, they are pissed off, and they want change, okay? And giving that government nuclear weapons, and I'm not saying we're the perfect freaking government in the world, but guess what? We're keeping things pretty damn safe around the world.

• 1:07:02Speaker 06

  So, and by the way, when that guy was talking about, I think something's gonna happen in the next couple of days. I do agree that that might be one of the tactics, Tom, not the Greenland, Greenland thing was gonna happen regardless. But our ships are getting into place to do something. But at the end of the day, with this regime change, everybody's talking about who's going to be the change? Who's gonna be the guy? Who? Who? It's not gonna be Ra's al-Salih. I'm sorry to all the people out there that are gonna get pissed off and furious. He's staying in Washington with his wife and his kids. He's not gonna go there and be the freaking leader that they're begging him to be. Also, all those people that are gonna make these videos, sitting in their cars, getting mad at you and getting mad at me. He's not the guy.

• 1:07:43Speaker 06

  Once you realize that, then they could shift their focus, Pat, and find someone. There has to be somebody in that group that's willing to step up and say, hey, I'll do it. Because he's not gonna do it. So, I mean, I don't know, I don't know the next couple of days that they're gonna do something. But to say that, yeah, let's give the people that wanna kill us nuclear weapons. Okay, great idea.

• 1:08:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, where are you at with this?

• 1:08:06Tom Ellsworth?

  So, they're not rational. What I just looked up here is... A simple piece of history that I think Tucker may be thinking about, but I'll tell you something, this is not a rational state. India and Pakistan, they go way back, right? Of course. With each other. India conducted peaceful nuclear explosion in 74. However, it then was 26 years later, on May 11th and 13th, 1998, declaring itself a nuclear armed state. On May 28th, 1998, in the Chicago Hills, Pakistan conducted a nuclear test and said, "We now are nuclear club" in response to it. When is the last time nuclear in Pakistan

• 1:08:49Tom Ellsworth?

  have had anything more than a border skirmish? Small arms fire, right? Nothing. They haven't. Because they're both nuclear powers. And it's like, "I got it, you got it." Now, guess what? If we don't both want to get it, then neither one of us should push the button. Those are rational states, you know what I mean, Pat? Those are rational states that now both had the big gun. I don't think the Islamic regime is a rational state. You know, India was not suicidal against Pakistan. Pakistan was not suicidal against India. Whereas, when you get to the radical Islam states, they are suicidal when they come to their objectives. And I do not think it would stabilize the region. I think you're

• 1:09:33Tom Ellsworth?

  kind of giving the gun to a crazy man, "Oh, well, let's hope he behaves like all the other nations that have become nuclear powers," and kind of just say, "Hey, I got the bomb too, man, don't mess with me casually." That's not the way this is working out.

• 1:10:15Speaker 04

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• 1:10:47Speaker 06

  Adam. I love when Tucker Carlson talks because the more and more he talks, it makes normal, rational people seem brilliant. Because the stuff he says, you're like, what? What is he? Did he really just say? He wants Iran to have nuclear weapons? The regime that's killing their own people he's advocating? This doesn't make sense. So Tucker, please keep talking. Number two, that photo op with Maria Carina Machado and Reza Pahlavi, if we can pull that up real quick, that's a cute photo op. That's great.

• 1:11:29Speaker 06

  It's going nowhere. I don't think either of them are going to be the leaders of their prospective countries. You know, we talked about movies, right? Sinners. Sinners is now the number one most nominated movie. Not all countries are the same.

• 1:11:43Speaker 06

  If you were going to give Venezuela a rating in terms of how bad they are as a country, how bad they are to their people, they are rated R. Iran? The Islamic Republic of Iran? Triple X. The worst of the worst of the worst of the worst. And Tucker wants to give them nuclear weapons? Not on my watch. Last point, and unfortunately, this is not going to be good news. In my opinion, to people who want to see the Islamic regime fall, I don't believe anything's gonna happen until the Supreme Leader meets the Supreme Maker. Because while that guy's in power, he runs the army, he runs the IRGC, right?

• 1:12:25Speaker 06

  And they're willing to die for him, and they're willing to protect their Sharia law, uh...

• 1:12:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Question for you, question for you.

• 1:12:32Speaker 06

  Yes, sir.

• 1:12:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, and question for all you guys, and I'm just curious to know what you would say about this. By the way, if you pull up the Calci report you found, Rob, about Ali Khamenei out as a Supreme Leader. If you go back, and by the way, we're talking about almost $10 million.

• 1:12:49Speaker 06

  Holy moly.

• 1:12:50Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a real number. Look what it was on January 8th of him falling and being out. 75% was January 8th. What's January 8th? You're talking two weeks ago.

• 1:13:02Speaker 06

  Two weeks.

• 1:13:03Patrick Bet-David?

  He was at 75%. He's at 45% today.

• 1:13:07Speaker 06

  That's when the riots...

• 1:13:08Patrick Bet-David?

  It's gone down, you know, it's gone down, it's settled down, and it's... And by the way, that is before, you know, September 26th. September 20th, first 2026, which is eight months from now, seven months from now. Then it goes July 1st, all this other stuff. So momentum of that has been gone, you know, now keep this in mind. We could be getting closer and closer and closer, and then all of a sudden, Trump doesn't attack, and the world is like, "Well, you know, he backed out, he didn't do anything." The man is unpredictable and fluid, and they'll make the decisions. I, I, if there's one thing we've noticed with a pattern, they've known since August they were gonna be attacking Venezuela and the way they were gonna be doing it. They've been planning, Delta's been planning it since August. It's not a new thing that they weren't doing.

• 1:13:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So all the other stuff, and Ivan had somebody that was on the military side told me the other day that, uh, you know, Maduro could have even agreed to a deal for this to happen as long as he doesn't look like he escaped, "Hey, just come and get me safely, I'm gonna do this, do this, do that, and you guys can come at this time, and I'm gonna be able to leave." There's many different speculations of what happened there. But going back to the conversation with Iran getting nuclear weapon, question for you. If you had the power to decide this, would you be okay with Iran getting nuclear weapon? The government, as long as its citizen can have firearms, and they have Second Amendment?

• 1:14:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Or are those two different separate issues?

• 1:14:34Tom Ellsworth?

  I think, I think-

• 1:14:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Iran gets nuclear weapon, but their people can have M16s, M4 guns, you know, they have their own, be able to protect themselves. So if the government regime, the Hezbollahs want to come in and destroy their lives, they can do because now they're armed. Would you entertain that idea?

• 1:14:49Tom Ellsworth?

  If, if the leader, if the leadership is who? Staying as Khomeini? No.

• 1:14:54Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you can't, don't, don't forget about the leadership.

• 1:14:56Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, because I don't think, I don't think that the, the decision to launch and go there would have anything to do with Second Amendment. Because what are they gonna do? If the government, right now, our government wanted to go all out attack, well, you, you can't, I worked at a nuclear missile base, you can't get to them. They're in a secure bunker, you're, you're, there's, even the missileers are hidden away. Underneath, you're not gonna get to them. So I don't think that the, it, it's two separate things.

• 1:15:20Patrick Bet-David?

  No correlation between-

• 1:15:21Tom Ellsworth?

  No correlation, because you're not gonna stop the people that are actually pushing the buns to launch. Period. Tom? Um, I, I wouldn't make that trade. Um, would I like to see the citizens of Iran armed? Would I think that the protests would change overnight? Yeah, I do. Um, but I, I wouldn't trade both because the regime is crazy. You know, the regime is just, the-

• 1:15:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Their mission, their instability, I have a hard time. I like, I like to know what you think. I didn't, I didn't grow up there. I, I just look at it from the outside and I'm like, I just don't trust the crazy man with the weapon.

• 1:16:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, I think you guys are right, and I think I'm with you. Uh, because one is out. So even if the US government wanted to attack whoever else, they don't, who cares if we have guns? They can go attack anybody if they wanted to. Uh, um, but would I love Iranian people to have Second Amendment?

• 1:16:20Tom Ellsworth?

  For sure.

• 1:16:21Patrick Bet-David?

  It, it would be interesting. It all, keep this in mind as well. Just because an idea works in America, doesn't mean that idea is gonna work in a different place. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes we always think like it's, because culturally, when you're raised in a certain way, and you're more emotional, you know, yesterday, we're having dinner, and I talked to you guys about a certain statistics study we've been doing with our team. The, the world population of Christians is 32%. The world population of Muslims is 24.9%. Follow these numbers here. 32% US, uh, the world Christian population-

• 1:16:56Patrick Bet-David?

  24.9% is Muslim, let's say 25%. Jews are 0.2% of the population. I want to say Hindus are 15% of the population and you got Buddhists that are a percentage of the population. So 32, 25. Of the world's billionaire population, US Christians are 33%, Muslims are 7%. The world's population of millionaires, Christians, 56%, Muslims, 6%. Jews, 0.2% of the world population, 19% of billionaires. Okay, and they're like another 2% of millionaires is what they got, right? What does that tell you?

• 1:17:39Patrick Bet-David?

  What does a Christian nation do? It typically gets people to become rich and own and have equity and what happens when you own things? What happens when you own a house?

• 1:17:50Speaker 06

  You care more.

• 1:17:51Patrick Bet-David?

  What happens when you own a business? What happens when you have equity? What happens when you vested? What is the word vested? Like you know when they say, "I am fully vested with my shares." But what does fully vested mean? Forget about business, it means you're what?

• 1:18:05Speaker 06

  I'm all in.

• 1:18:05Patrick Bet-David?

  You're fully committed, right? Okay, so a society who is not fully vested, they have nothing to lose, they're willing to turn, burn anything down. Why? Because they have nothing to lose. Does that make sense? So to me, I don't know about the Second Amendment in Iran yet, until the economy does better, until people have more equity, until people are doing better, then you could feel comfortable with people having, you know, weapons and Second Amendment because they don't have a lot to lose. The mentality is a very different mentality when talking about this, Adam.

• 1:18:44Speaker 06

  Well, I'll give you some examples. Look at North Korea, holding the world hostage. Their citizens don't have, they don't have food, much less guns. So do we want a regime that's despotic and autocratic? Having nuclear weapons? No way, Jose. But not all countries are the same. You talk about Christian countries. You know Islamic countries or Arab countries. Here's some countries where the citizens have guns, but the leaders don't have nuclear weapons. Ready? Switzerland, Finland, the Czech Republic, Canada. They seem to be doing OK with the exception of that Finnish leader who thinks he's tougher than Trump. Here are the countries that don't have nuclear weapons,

• 1:19:29Speaker 06

  but their citizens have guns. Let me know if you'd want to live in these countries. Yemen, Afghanistan, Somalia, shout out to Minnesota, Iraq, Libya, Syria. So not all countries are the same. So no, I don't want Iran having nuclear weapons. And I would love to see their citizens have the Second Amendment. But unfortunately, the Supreme Leader is stopping them from doing anything.

• 1:19:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what happens here. Let me get to this next story. Vinny, I know you want to comment on this. Baron Trump reportedly saved woman's life after witnessing violent assault on FaceTime call. Rob, if you want, is this the story there?

• 1:20:09Tom Ellsworth?

  It is. Fox is covering it.

• 1:20:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:20:11Speaker 07

  Baron Trump reportedly saving a woman's life after witnessing her assault on FaceTime. A friend of his telling a UK court that the first son called police after she was attacked by her ex-boyfriend saying, quote, "I just got a call from a girl I know. She's getting beaten up. It's really an emergency. Please, I got a call from her with a guy beating her up." The woman reportedly claims her former partner was jealous of her friendship with the first son.

• 1:20:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So then he does what, Vinny?

• 1:20:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I mean, think about it. The argument, he's FaceTiming her. He shows up. Like, it's no joke. Like, he's beating her and they're, I don't want to say the R-word, but it's there. And you have to give this kid, like, I can't call him a kid anymore, brother. He's, he's, he's an adult. He doesn't freeze up. He doesn't hang up. He calls emergency services from here to call them, to give her the address, to say what's happening and focus enough to like everybody, so the cops there. Respond and then later in court, she actually said, this is what saved my life. The guy was going to kill me because I was talking on the phone with a friend Baron from the United States and she said that, you know, the help showed up when she needed it because it was like right about to get really, really bad, but people need to understand

• 1:21:26Tom Ellsworth?

  this. I know it's like a, this is a whatever story you're throwing it away, but he wasn't there physically to help. Okay. He didn't tackle the guy. He didn't play freaking hero, but in real life, doing things fast. You guys on this? Like the first five minutes, the first minute or whatever, as quick as, mind you, this guy came into the phone and it was fast. It was boom, boom, boom. She screamed and it hung up.

• 1:21:46Speaker 06

  This is her ex-boyfriend?

• 1:21:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Her ex-boyfriend and he's like, oh, you know, and I don't, his name, I don't want to, it was like a weird last name.

• 1:21:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Matvia Rumiantsev, like a Russian partner.

• 1:21:55Tom Ellsworth?

  A Russian something. Yeah. And by the way, we already know the R word is very, very prevalent in freaking the UK. So just, you know, just his decision and the outcome, it actually mattered. And I know this is a kind of throwaway story, but she even said, all jokes aside, Baron saved my life with the action that he did because well, he's calling the cops in freaking UK. Who the hell, can you even make that call right now from your cellphone? Who do you call? Who do you call? Who are you calling? And it's not like he's calling Secret Service and they're calling, no, no, he did it on his own. I'm giving Baron a huge shout out.

• 1:22:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Good for him.

• 1:22:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Heck, yeah.

• 1:22:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Good for him for doing this. During the testimony, the woman said, Trump helped save my life. That call was a sign from God.

• 1:22:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Bingo.

• 1:22:36Patrick Bet-David?

  At the moment.

• 1:22:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Good for him.

• 1:22:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:38Speaker 06

  I got something for you, sir. Well, shout out to Baron Trump and don't get used to high praise from the media, young man, because they might be nice to you now. Get ready for the onslaught of horrible news. Just ask your dad, just ask your brothers, just ask your mom. By the way, Melania is coming out with a new movie right now, which looks incredible. So this, here's a kid that's been in the news since he was born, basically, and has been in the front page of the news since he's eight years old for the last decade. I think he's 19 years old now. So respect for you for doing the right thing. Just get used to the media and the news and the lame stream.

• 1:23:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Media and fake news coming after and attacking you. But something tells me, PBD, let me know if you think about this. He has a inner circle that's gonna prep him for the fake news. What do you think?

• 1:23:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's this?

• 1:23:30Tom Ellsworth?

  His dad.

• 1:23:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah, of course. No, no, no question about it. Uh, of what happens. See, I mean, he's good, but can you imagine what it is to be him right now? First of all, you can't hide. You're 6'9". Any room you go into, you stand up, they see you. You're walking through school, they're like, who is, oh, okay. It's him. You're going to class, who's sitting next to you? You're going on a date, who's sitting next to you? You're going on a date with a girl, who's driving you? Okay, how do you know who she's gonna tell? If you do something with the girl, how do you know she's gonna go brag about it in public? Go and call her daddy? What was he like? What did he do? Like, you know, you have to be careful with all of this stuff that's gonna be happening.

• 1:24:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Not only the name, okay? He's Donald Trump's son, okay? He actually is a freaking stunt, because we had dinner with him. And by the way, he's tall outside. Like, you know you're tall when you're just talking to somebody and you're like, what the hell? You just see a head. He's cute. Like, if he was a midget, if Baron was a midget, eh, okay, get out of here, little guy. He's, he's ridiculous, and he's not stopping. Well, he's getting bigger and bigger. It's gonna be, he... I almost feel bad because, yeah, like you said, where's he gonna go? What girl?

• 1:24:39Patrick Bet-David?

  When we were at inauguration. And he walked into the arena, if you remember. The entire place lost their mind.

• 1:24:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, the entire place lost their mind when they saw this. So, okay, let me get to the next story here. Next story I want to get to is FCC late-night show may not be exempt from equal time for opposing candidates. So, what's going on here is, is the criticism of the numbers of guests that they've had. So I think Fallon and Camel, I think the Camel number was, you know, 1 to 175. For every one Republican or conservative guest, 175 were liberals. I think maybe ended up being 2 or 3. And the one person that they had was Liz Cheney. So it's not like they had somebody. And then this leads to a conversation about, you know... FCC getting involved saying, hey, you got to start having some guests on the other

• 1:25:32Patrick Bet-David?

  side. The FCC is changing its rule exempting certain late night and daytime talk shows from being required to provide equal airtime to opposing political candidates. Importantly, the FCC has not been presented with any evidence that the interview portion of any late night or daytime television talk show program on air presently would qualify for the bona fide news exemption, the FCC said in a public notice. Moreover, a program that is motivated by partisan purposes, for example, would not be entitled to an exemption under longstanding FCC precedent. And this is FCC Chair Brandon Carr talking about this. Carr has said that programs, because they air over a broadcast network rather than a cable channel or streamer

• 1:26:16Patrick Bet-David?

  have an obligation to serve the public's interest, and the FCC intends to hold their networks to that standard. Okay, so that's that. Rob, I think you have a clip on this with Jimmy Kimmel. Is this the, can you go to the Jimmy Kimmel one pleading to say, hey, this is not fair. They're going to force us to have people from the other side. I don't want people from the other side to come here, whatever it was, that he was pleading with his audience. And Tom, interestingly so, found something from back in the days with Johnny Carson, where Johnny was, is that the one? Yep. Okay, go for it.

• 1:26:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And then literally minutes after announcing his mysterious deal, the president took time from 6,000 miles away to continue his war on talk shows. He shared this story about how his minions at the FCC are planning to make it difficult for shows like ours and The View to interview politicians they don't align with. For real, we are once again getting threatened by the FCC. I might need your help again. Oh, God. I might need your help again. Tom, what can you tell us about the history?

• 1:27:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Of how this worked and what happened with Johnny Carson many years ago.

• 1:27:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, this is pure spin by Kim. I'll get that in a second. So it's called Section 315 of the Communication Act. How is it that we have TV? The federal government gave stations licenses to use the airwaves and the airwaves were, you know, therefore owned by the government and you could put your TV on them. Do you remember, Vinnie, growing up where on regular TV, all of a sudden they'd say, "Please wait for 30 seconds." And you hear that sound, "Doo." Yes. "This has been a test of the emergency broadcast system." Had this been an actual emergency, that's the federal government testing the systems that were of TV. Now, this is just TV, Pat, over the air, ABC, CBS, NBC.

• 1:28:12Tom Ellsworth?

  So, back in the day, the FCC used to control this very stridently. If you had a political candidate on, you had to give equal time to the other political candidate. Because even though NBC is working for a profit, those airwaves, open airwaves, belong to the people through the federal government. And so The Tonight Show and NBC used to say, "Hey, we're not going to have candidates on. We're not going to walk the line like that." And they would also be very careful with guests. Johnny Carson famously told Charlton Heston, who we know as the Charlton Heston that spoke

• 1:28:54Tom Ellsworth?

  about the Second Amendment, "They can take my gun when they prime my cold, dead fingers off it." Remember that? And then Jane Fonda, who never met something liberal she didn't like, were both on opposite sides of the spectrum, and Carson reeled them in. Says, "Hey, we need to get back to your book. We need to get back to your movie." He would pull them back in. And so that was the way it used to work. What happened is, Pat, the federal government stopped enforcing it the way they should. And all Brendan Carr, at the urging of the President, is saying, "Hey, everybody who's still over the air, and you heard in the thing you read, Pat, not..." The cable network is private Comcast dug the ditch and put that cable in front of your

• 1:29:37Tom Ellsworth?

  house and you pay Comcast for it, right? And they run that on their on electricity they buy. But over the air, the big three networks are over the air and that's why you read that in that story. So Brendan Carr is like, you know what? We should get back to this. Immediately Jimmy Kimmel goes, oh, now they're gonna do this. No, Jimmy Kimmel's been living at a time where the FCC was not enforcing the law that was already there. I got a question for you. What is the nominal speed on I-95, Pat? Nominal speed? 65. No, no, not speed limit, nominal. It's about 72. I was gonna say 70. But the speed limit is 65 and then in certain areas 55 for a short distance. Well, guess what? Nobody does.

• 1:30:21Tom Ellsworth?

  The nominal situation right now is that the late night shows and everybody on broadcast TV, they've been driving 65, but nobody's been pulling them over and giving them a ticket. The speed limit has never changed. President is saying, hey Brendan, you should go back out on section 315. Maybe I need to go on Jimmy Kimmel. Maybe I, whatever's being said, maybe I need to go up five minutes on Kimmel if he's gonna talk to Gavin for five minutes. And that's the last thing the liberals that are in major media want.

• 1:30:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie?

• 1:30:55Speaker 01

  Um, no, I, the fact that he's still up there, they're still paying him. I know the contract is done at the end of this year, but it's just cry me a river. It's like, we all know what the Democratic Party and all the donors are doing. They pay these people because the majority of these older voters are sitting at home and still watching this propaganda get pumped in their brains, but it's not working and it's over. And I think, hey, it's fair is fair. If you're gonna give one side, you know, 10% of the airtime, you have to give the other side 10%. And to be honest with you, Tom, this is, this would probably save the network because you're gonna, you're gonna be forced to give equally, it's not gonna be Trump, Trump, Trump.

• 1:31:33Tom Ellsworth?

  That is a great point, very ironically, that the three broadcast over the air networks, even though they're also on cable, but the broadcasts, ABC, CBS, NBC, suddenly they start doing things on both sides. They might gain audience.

• 1:31:45Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying. So it might be like a blessing in disguise that they have no idea, but Jimmy Kimmel, I just love that, that audience is the same audience of The View. It's that same just angry, because mind you, I've been in those audiences.

• 1:31:59Speaker 07

  I've seen them shooting. I've been in Bill Maher's audience as well. It's that same group of people that are out in the streets of Minnesota yelling and screaming and going into Target and, and, and putting carriages for $400 and then walking out because they're angry at ICE. Those are the same freaking people, but I just think it's a stupid, stupid crying move, Pat. It's not gonna do anything. He's gone after this year.

• 1:32:18Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, well, let me show you this. This is Larry Fink and Elon Musk on aging. Is there gonna be anything that we can, uh, um, you know, reverse aging? Okay, the conversation about reverse aging. And look what Musk's answer is. Fink, who I believe, Rob, is in his, uh, late 60s, early 70s. Can we find out how old Larry Fink is? He runs BlackRock, $14 trillion. 73. Uh, 73 years old, assets under management, 22,000 employees, give or take. They have offices in 30 countries. They have investments in 100-plus countries. But, uh, he's at an age where it's kinda like, look, man, I kinda, I'm getting close to this thing. Can I reverse aging? Elon Musk's answer excites Larry Fink. Watch this.

• 1:33:04Speaker 07

  Can we, uh, can you and I reverse aging in this new history or, or, or are we gonna see it?

• 1:33:12Speaker 07

  You know, I haven't, I haven't put much time into, uh, the aging stuff. I, I do think it is a very solvable problem. Like, you can do it. I think when, when, when we find, figure out what causes aging, I think we'll find it's incredibly obvious. It's not a subtle thing. The reason I say it's not a subtle thing is because all the cells in your body, you know, with some, pretty much age at the same rate. I've, I've never seen someone with, with an old left arm and a young right arm ever in my life.

• 1:33:45Speaker 07

  So why is that? It, it, that, that means that there must be a clock, a synchronizing clock. Right. That is synchronizing across 35 trillion cells in your body.

• 1:33:56Speaker 07

  And, uh,

• 1:33:58Speaker 07

  you know, the, there is some benefit to death, by the way.

• 1:34:05Speaker 07

  There's, there's a reason why we don't actually have a longer lifespan. Because if you, if you have, if people do live forever or for a very long time, I think there's some risk of an ossification of society, of, of things just getting kinda locked in place.

• 1:34:23Speaker 07

  And, uh, you know, it, it just may become.

• 1:34:30Speaker 02

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• 1:35:45Speaker 01

  I'm looking forward to that.

• 1:35:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm looking forward to that. Okay, so what do you think? You think it's gonna happen? You think the reverse aging thing will take place, Tom?

• 1:35:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think we're already making a lot of ground on cancer. Because if you take cancer and heart disease out, you basically, that's where you're getting the human population going from, you know, 48 to 73. If you take a look at the turn of the century. And antibiotics, right? Used to be that, you know, pneumonia at age 30 could be a death sentence. That could be that. But now, you know, advanced antibiotics and things allowed you to... To live longer. I think we're gonna, I think we're gonna see it. I think we're gonna see incremental

• 1:36:35Tom Ellsworth?

  things going forward. Now, we also have the contra effect that we're poisoning ourselves and we're running ourselves in background. Like what happens with food in certain countries like ours in terms of processing, sugar, obesity, you know, health-oriented diabetes, in other words, not diabetes since you were young because your pancreas had a defect, but you, you basically traumatizing your body and your pancreas through diet and weight to the point that your pancreas, you know, you develop, you know, health-oriented diabetes. When you start moving a lot of that back, you suddenly are, I think, gonna find a lot of aging acceleration. We're already living in a world where, right now, we have

• 1:37:17Tom Ellsworth?

  more 100-year-olds than ever, and I think that's, what's that, doubling in three years, the number of 100-year-olds that are around us doubling in three years? And so, we're gonna see it. I think we're gonna see it in incremental ways. Like people that get smart about sugar, get smart about weight.

• 1:37:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You're talking more education, not actual reverse aging Benjamin Button type of stuff that's going on.

• 1:37:39Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I, I, no, I think there will be some of that. They're gonna figure certain things out.

• 1:37:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, where are you at with this?

• 1:37:46Speaker 06

  Look, we're already living in the best time in human history. I mean,

• 1:37:52Speaker 06

  taking people out of poverty, extending life expectancy, reducing infant mortality, is the best time to be alive. So all the people that are the doomsday and the global warming and I hate America, check the research on that. I'm in the life settlement, life insurance world, you know that, and the cornerstone of that is life expectancy. People are living longer than ever, especially if you just take care of yourself. If you've got some money, and you've got some health insurance, and you've got some coverage, what a time to be alive, especially in America. Don't smoke, watch what you eat, don't be a fat ass, work out from time to time. And you know, they said that sitting is the new smoking. Get out and work out a little bit, get some sun as well.

• 1:38:36Speaker 06

  So the, the real question is this. Life expectancy is longer than ever. People are living longer, but are they living healthier? You know, you talked about not life expectancy. What's your health expectancy? If you take care of yourself and you work out like this guy right here. You have a family and kids like this guy right here, which I'm working on. Life is great, man.

• 1:38:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny. Well, I, I think, you know, it's reverse aging, going backwards. You, you, the Benjamin Button thing is hilarious, but I think taking care of yourself should be. But the reverse aging guy. Yeah, yeah. Do you think reverse aging will happen? No, I, I think it will. I think that everything, everything to me with technology and everything that's happening with AI. It's definitely, they're definitely going to figure it out, especially when he simplifies it the way that he's saying it's, it's the clock. Can you imagine you put a, they put something in you and you're seeing your skin, the wrinkles going away? And you're, and by the way, you're lasting longer and you're being here, but as a Christian, I think we forget like the design of this whole thing. It's not to be here forever. It's be fruitful, be multiply, pass on the will, wisdom to the next generation and then meet your maker. I think that arc has to happen.

• 1:39:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So messing with the plan, with God's plan, and I, I, yes, I think it's going to happen. But you know, you're supposed to live your best life and then you're supposed to move on. I think these guys are messing with. What are you thinking?

• 1:39:49Speaker 05

  All right. If we get to that point, which I think we will, a, a, at least in our lifetime, especially at the rate AI is going. But it's, would you take it?

• 1:40:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Would you take it?

• 1:40:02Speaker 05

  I think if I have a big enough family and I continue to go at that path, I, I would love to take it.

• 1:40:08Patrick Bet-David?

  What age would you, what age would you like to live to, Efren? Pick your age.

• 1:40:13Speaker 05

  My age, I keep telling my kids I'll be a hundred plus.

• 1:40:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You want to be a hundred plus?

• 1:40:17Speaker 05

  A hundred plus.

• 1:40:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You want to make it a hundred plus?

• 1:40:18Speaker 05

  I want to make it to a hundred.

• 1:40:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Would you, would you want to live to 200?

• 1:40:22Speaker 05

  I don't know, but it depends how the world is going. I, I guess, yeah, it's.

• 1:40:29Speaker 05

  I enjoy life what you have it. If you keep extending it, then what's life's gonna be? What's the true meaning of of life at that point?

• 1:40:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Would you want to live to 200?

• 1:40:38Speaker 05

  Absolutely not.

• 1:40:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me why.

• 1:40:40Speaker 05

  With my back?

• 1:40:40Speaker 06

  I'll explain. With my back?

• 1:40:42Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, what if they find a way where that back pain goes away?

• 1:40:46Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:40:47Patrick Bet-David?

  What if your knee pain goes away? What if your ankle pain goes away? The elbows, the shoulder, the neck, the peeing seven times a night? The bubbling you have to do?

• 1:40:56Speaker 06

  I'm already doing that.

• 1:40:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So, but what I'm saying is, forget about all of that. What if all of that goes away? Would you want to live to 200?

• 1:41:04Speaker 06

  I'll tell you, if if you want to be completely selfish, then yeah, live to 1,000. But if you want to see all your friends, your family, your kids, all die? And you're still alive? I got a major problem with that. Uh, my grandmother, she she just died at age 100, two weeks ago. She died, my entire family flew in from Minnesota. And we celebrated her 100th birthday. We all took pictures. We all had cake. She has dementia. She sat there. I think she remembers my aunt and my uncle a little bit. And we all left. They put her to bed and two days later she was dead.

• 1:41:47Speaker 06

  And we all said, what a beautiful life she had. Thank God we did this. My other grandma, who's like my closest grandma, she's 94. And she's complaining, I don't feel good. She's way more cognitive than this other grandma. I said, Grandma, I love you. I don't want to hear it. I'm already planning your 100th birthday. It's in six years. I already put the down the down payment on the party room. No excuses, I need you there. And you know what she says? Okay, I'm gonna do my best to make it. And I'm giving her a reason to live. So, do you want to live to 200? No, because all your friends and family are gonna die. But age 100, with all your family and kids and grandkids? That's a beautiful thing.

• 1:42:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, what I'm talking about is, you go to a new, you go to a doctor, new technology comes out. For a million dollars, they can make you look to the best version you can be and internally change organs, healthier, live longer. You know, if you have the resources, buy a younger heart, younger this, younger that. They do the surgery, they put it in there. Would you want that? Would you want to do that?

• 1:42:57Speaker 05

  I would want a better, I mean, I have high blood pressure. I would love it. Give me a heart.

• 1:43:01Speaker 06

  You with the red face and the veins have high blood pressure?

• 1:43:04Speaker 05

  Adam, sitting next to you is the reason I get the red face.

• 1:43:07Speaker 06

  Vinny, sitting next to you, my left eardrum is now non-existent. Huh? Sitting next to Ephraim, it feels great. That's called a compare contract.

• 1:43:14Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you have with this?

• 1:43:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, God's not gonna let us do anything on medicine that he doesn't want us to do. So I have faith in that. I have faith that he's in control, right? He says he knows the days and things, so I believe God's in control. I don't think we're gonna get to like magic reversal, but I think we're gonna get to a lot of life extension. I think we're gonna get to a lot of things on cancer and a lot of things on life extension, Pat, where you age more slowly and you age better. I don't think we're gonna go be able to go into reverse. We do things like facelift and Botox and suddenly a 40-year-old person looks 32, 33, tighten up the skin and all that, and you can worry about that all day long. And there are some things you can do that way,

• 1:43:58Tom Ellsworth?

  but I think we're gonna have slower aging and we're gonna conquer certain diseases. But I'm like, you know, I am absolutely focused on 100 and I've actually more recently, because I look around, how old will everybody be around me? I look at 110 and I say, and then I look at all the stats. You know, there's gonna be 420,000 100-year-olds when I turn 100. I'm gonna be part of that.

• 1:44:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I like that.

• 1:44:27Speaker 06

  PBD, can I ask you a question?

• 1:44:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:30Speaker 06

  So, forgive me if it's too personal. We all love your dad, Gabriel. He's 80...

• 1:44:37Patrick Bet-David?

  83.

• 1:44:38Speaker 06

  83. Have you had that discussion with age 100, how long he'd wanna live? Obviously, that's your role model, your hero. What are your thoughts on him living to 200?

• 1:44:51Patrick Bet-David?

  See, that's a different conversation. I'd want him to live and outlive me. It's a very, I want everybody to outlive me. It's not even a question, but there's a reason why God created it the way he did. I think there is, in the weirdest way, is certain experiences that bring pain. I think it's necessary. I think you need it. Because...

• 1:45:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You you need, you know, when I was coming up, I needed setback to humble me. You know, I I if I was a 22 year old today, it would be a very different PBD. People would be remembering me for if I was 22, having nothing to lose, having nothing that's going on. Life was, I'm in debt $49,000, you know, and then I'm with this company. I'm a rock star at 21, I'm giving talks on yachts in Newport Beach and I'm the poster child of this technology company that's coming out with this billionaire that is mentoring me in LA. And I'm at his place in Newport all the time, beautiful 35 million dollar home at that time.

• 1:46:05Patrick Bet-David?

  It's now a 100 million dollar home on the water, beautiful, beautiful property. And then I'm like, man, I'm gonna be this, I'm gonna be that, and then boom, I lost it all. And it was embarrassing, grow leaves, friends are making fun of you because, you know, I thought you were gonna be a millionaire, I thought you're pulling up on a Ford Focus, that stick shift, no power windows, you know, the old school windows, the AC is a ghetto AC. Car payment on the Focus is 228, and then you look at how everybody looks at you. And they have that smirk on their face, you know what the smirk on the face is like? What happened, huh? I told you, you were like dreaming, and then you have to take it. And then you're like, yeah, you're never gonna look at me like that ever again.

• 1:46:49Patrick Bet-David?

  That's just never gonna happen. So I think that's one pain. Then there's the pain to lose someone for you to realize why you have to be more grateful. God teaches gratitude in a very unique way. You know, God teaches important relationships and friendships in a very weird way. He teaches you on how to be a

• 1:47:13Patrick Bet-David?

  The benefits of being better at relationships in a very weird way. You may have a transactional mind and you're like, well, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. You're like, no, man, you need relationships. You have to learn how to better build relationships. So to me, look, you know, with my dad, I asked God for one thing with dad many years ago when I was in the military. I just said, God, I want my kids to get to know him. And I wanna, you know, the time that I didn't get with him when I was 10 to 12 years old, when my parents got a divorce. And I lived in Germany and then the next six years when I saw him one Saturday, Sunday, every other weekend. And then I go to the army for two and a half years, I don't see him. I said, I wanna find a way to rekindle that relationship.

• 1:47:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And then now he lives with us the last five years, family, all of that. No, there is a time for everything. I mean, even in the Bible, who says that? There's a time to mourn, there's time to laugh. Who says that? Is that? King Solomon wrote it in Ecclesiastes. Yeah, Ecclesiastes, yeah, there's a time for, there's a time really for everything, right? There's a time to weep, there's a time to laugh, there's a time to mourn, there's time to dance. That is really a part of life, like we have to realize. You know, mourning happens and sometimes it's a way of saying, hey, it's your time to step up. Stop being so selfish. Stop living your life just for you. People are relying on you. You know, people are relying on you to lead the family.

• 1:48:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I had one of my guys, when his father died, he called me one time. He was driving back from Lodi, back to California, and we're on the phone together. And he's just crying. I said, listen, you can cry all you want with me on the phone right now, do it, get it out of your system. When you get in front of your family, everybody else can cry, you're officially the leader.

• 1:49:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And if you need to cry, step away, get in the car, come back. One person needs to carry the burden to family. One person needs to carry the burden to family. Cry privately as much as you want the next five hours. When you get there, you're the oldest son. You need to officially be able to lead this family. And that's not an easy burden that comes with it, but your father had to carry it. Now it's on you to carry it. So I think that part that we fight. Listen, it is what it is. You know, you, you gotta go through it. But me selfishly, if I had a my, I want everybody to outlive me. I want everybody to outlive me, but God's got different plans. You gotta trust it.

• 1:49:40Speaker 06

  Respect.

• 1:49:41Patrick Bet-David?

  So I want to get this next story and everyone I'm coming to with SpaceX. Cause I used to work at SpaceX for eight years. So here's Elon Musk wants to take SpaceX public to get funding for space data centers for AI. Rob, is this the story with that the Wall Street Journal had? Go ahead and play this clip, go for it.

• 1:50:01Speaker 07

  I, I think the case, it's, it's a no brainer for building AI, solar powered AI data centers in space. Cause as you mentioned, it's also very cold in space. If you're, if you're, if you're in the shadow, uh, then it's, it's very cold in space. Just three degrees Kelvin. So you just have, you have solar panels facing the sun and then, uh, a radiator that's like point, like pointed away from the sun. Um, so it has no sun incidence and then it's, and then it's just cooling. It's a very efficient cooling system. So, uh, net, net effect is that the lowest cost place to put AI will be space. And that, and that'll be true within two years, maybe three, three at the latest.

• 1:50:44Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about what he said here?

• 1:50:46Speaker 05

  I think, uh, the way he explains it, man, it seems like it was so easy to vision and it's logically easy to do, right? His timeframes are always short on the shorter side, but I, you can't put anything, anything across Elon that he can do or will do. And I think what he's saying right now and funding this AI structure in space. I think the SpaceX team will be able to take care of that.

• 1:51:13Patrick Bet-David?

  What was the culture like working at SpaceX?

• 1:51:15Speaker 05

  Oh, phenomenal. At least for the teams that I was in, it was always, there was a sense of urgency. All of the damn time. It was never off.

• 1:51:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me how you felt that sense of urgency?

• 1:51:24Speaker 05

  Oh, sorry.

• 1:51:25Patrick Bet-David?

  How would it happen from the top down?

• 1:51:26Speaker 05

  So I'll tell you when my, my time in Starship. So I was one of the two leaders in Starship when we were barely doing the Starship built from the ground up. The level, and I don't know if you guys noticed this, but Elon actually pinned us against Florida and we had internal competitions of who was gonna build Starship first.

• 1:51:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:51:46Speaker 05

  That's successfully. So the level of urgency, he would come to site and be like, hey, did you guys know that Florida already installed the Afton? And you guys are still building the barrels? Right? So he's putting, planning that like, hey, you gotta go faster. And for us in the team, it's okay, how do we go faster? And fail fast to get the data that we need to keep moving forward. That's the, I can't describe the amount of pressure that I had, but that helped me grow more as a leader. With that amount of pressure I had at that build, I don't have it anymore.

• 1:52:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Were you ever in meetings with him where he would come and talk to you guys?

• 1:52:22Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:52:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, give me one of the meetings you guys had.

• 1:52:24Speaker 05

  So one of the meetings is onsite, he's, the one meeting that I remember the most is how he said, I wanna obsolete his own, what is it? Dragon, the Dragon capsule. Like what company obsoles their own product, right? And then he also wants to obsolete the plane. Now think about that. You're gonna now, if you wanna go from here to Dubai, now you're getting a Starship rocket. 20 minutes, 18 minutes. The, the, the world will change rapidly when that happens. Cause if you think about it, back in the day, you were on foot or on horses. Now you have vehicles, now you have planes.

• 1:53:09Speaker 05

  The level of networking and I mean, I look up to the future like the future looks bright. That is absolutely a true statement. The being in SpaceX, I have nothing but love for everyone there and shout out to everybody that's in Boca Chica. It's a tough environment to be in, but it is well worth it. You have driven individuals that they don't do it because Elon is pressuring them. And this is the other side of social media that's retarded. Oh, he's forcing the employees to work long hours. No, the employees love being there. They're doing that for themselves. Like I get it, I love the process. That's to me, I got lost in the process.

• 1:53:49Speaker 05

  I lost time with the family yet, but we had a plan like, hey, guys, and for a decade, I'm just gonna grind. My wife, don't get me wrong, back and forth arguments, right? But we're still here.

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• 1:55:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Five kids later. Yeah. Well, that's cool to, to, to give that perspective of what it was like. By the way, the audience that's watching this and want to know how everyone got on the podcast from a contest that we ran, Rob, if we can put up his Manect up there so people can see, we'll put the link below as well. Send him a message. Uh, I think his Manect, you can DM him right now on Manect and kind of a, a share the experience that he's been here as well. Tom, what, what do you think about what he's saying with the advancement, especially, you know, I love how he said that Elon would come down to the culture, talk to the employees and say, "We need to replace our existing product and be a competitor to ourselves." But what do you think about what he's saying with the AI data centers he's talking about in, uh, in space?

• 1:55:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, he's correct. If you can, um, so every quarter that goes by, the amount of technology that it takes on a weight basis to store, you know, one megabyte drops. So the amount of weight that needs to be in the storage systems drops. And the energy you need, if you have solar power, solar panels pointing at the sun and you have all of this storage facility up in space, he's right. It just runs. And what he's talking about the radiator is on the sun side, it's actually way too hot. But four inches away, Pat, on the dark side that never gets sun, it's three degrees Kelvin. So the radiator

• 1:56:30Tom Ellsworth?

  in the middle uses the heat from the solar panels to actually keep the system at a basic temperature and it runs incredibly efficiently. Elon is right about that. And he's got tremendous launch technology to launch all the stuff up there. Look at Starlink. Starlink is LEO's Low Earth Orbit Satellites. And he just kept launching them until he had wide coverage all the way around. And that's how he built Starlink. So he has the launch, he has built technologies of networks of satellites in space. So what is so difficult about launching all of the storage mechanism and the downlink? He already has the downlink back to Earth. It's called Starlink.

• 1:57:14Tom Ellsworth?

  So basically, the data center will talk to the Starlink satellites that will talk to Earth back and forth. So all he needs to do is get the storage systems up there and the cooling. That's the only two things. He has everything else. So I believe he's gonna do it. I believe he's gonna have a data center in space within two years. Absolutely. And it's very interesting, the people that know are talking about the IPO, well, he could do it anytime in the future. It could be done by July 2026. Wait a minute. It takes 90 days to file and it takes 60 days to go. That's five months. We're about to go to February, which means if he's gonna put an IPO out, they basically have to talk

• 1:57:55Tom Ellsworth?

  about it between Valentine's Day and Easter. You know what I mean, Pat? Because he can do a lot of things fast. Make the SEC go faster is probably not one of them. Just the basic filing and the amount of time and inspection. And so, and he would need all the major banks to do it. We know about a deal that no one bank can do. It's on its own.

• 1:58:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you know what's amazing, Tom, about what Ephraim just talked about a minute ago? Is if you, if you wanna know what it's like to work for somebody, or with somebody, don't ask them. Ask the people that are sitting there watching, telling the stories. To say, you know, Ephraim working at SpaceX, Elon would come to meetings and tell us, hey, by the way, Florida's doing this. Hey, by the way, just so you know, we need to replace this. In regular meetings. Can you imagine that? That this guy's worth three quarters of a billion, three quarters of a trillion dollars. He's worth 750. Going around talking to people and saying, hey, here's what we gotta do here. And he's just getting warmed

• 1:58:56Patrick Bet-David?

  up. Very impressive to see that. I wanna get to the next thing here about Jamie Dimon at Davos. Here's Jamie at Davos talking about taxes. Adam, I'm gonna come to you right after this here. This is one of my favorite clips from Davos. Okay? Jamie is up there talking about, what do you want us to do with taxes? Give a trillion dollars to the government? What do you think's gonna happen? Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:59:18Speaker 01

  Society work better for everybody. And

• 1:59:22Speaker 02

  Would you raise taxes to pay for that?

• 1:59:24Speaker 01

  I don't think you have to. I think it would drive a lot of growth. I think I did the numbers at one point, it'd be $60 billion of spending. I think it'd probably create more than that of growth and taxes. You know, and if you have to raise taxes a little bit, that's fine, but Again, I don't want to have to buy any argument. I don't, I don't know anyone, okay? And you guys in the room, you know, be Democrats, Republicans, who thinks the spending, that, that sending another trillion dollars to Washington DC will actually improve anything. So when you say raise taxes, I, if you said raise taxes and directly give it to the people who need it, do it? No?

• 1:59:59Speaker 02

  So, we are, we are, we are running out of time.

• 2:00:01Speaker 01

  It goes to all these interest groups, you know? They give it to their friends and all that.

• 2:00:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Shh, she's still running out of time.

• 2:00:05Speaker 01

  Which is why, which is why the people are considered a swamp. It, it's kind of a swamp, you know? There's 17,000 lobbying groups.

• 2:00:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at her, she's having a heart attack.

• 2:00:13Speaker 01

  They're just fighting for their one self-interest as opposed to what's good for my country. But, you know, that's what happens in Congress, you know? And you see these, how these bills get spent, like, the chip sack was a good idea until, you know, it was, it was, had to be unions, play space, childcare, diapers, you know? What the hell are we doing? And then, and we do it over and over. And then we, and then it fails. And then we spend more money that makes society work better for everybody.

• 2:00:38Patrick Bet-David?

  What a point he makes.

• 2:00:39Speaker 02

  Would you raise taxes to pay for that?

• 2:00:41Speaker 01

  I don't think you have to. I think it would drive a lot of growth.

• 2:00:45Speaker 06

  Yeah, I'm with Jamie Dimon on this. I mean, I'm going to tie in the former story with Elon to Jamie Dimon. You know, one of the first shirts I think you ever put out there was, "100% of the world's problems are going to be solved by entrepreneurs," right? I'm paraphrasing it. And that's exactly what's going on here. Here's a capitalist, an entrepreneur, sort of Democrat, sort of moderate, I don't know where he's at. But, uh, raising the taxes is, uh, something that leftists want to do, that communists want to do, that Marxists want to do, with the warm blanket of collectivism. We all know what that means. They want to seize the means of production. And even when he's talking about capitalism and harping against not raising taxes, she's like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, we're running out of time."

• 2:01:29Speaker 06

  We know where you're at with this. Back to Elon Musk, you said he's worth almost of a quarter of a trillion dollar, three quarters of a trillion dollars? So in my opinion, Elon Musk is still a little child. And what do I mean by that? He's still that little kid that wants to go to space. Pat, what do you think? We always talk about there's difference between being childlike and childish. He's still childlike. He's still thinking of Star Wars and Star Trek and even Spaceballs. Shout out to that movie. So what did Steve Jobs once say? Another amazing entrepreneur, another amazing capitalist. You know, the people that are crazy enough to think that they're going to change the world will change the world. Well, if that's the case, Elon Musk is certifiably insane

• 2:02:13Speaker 06

  because he's changing the world. And the biggest thing is this last point. We talk about signal versus noise. How much noise is Elon Musk dealing with? Baby mama drama, the haters, the Doge, the people burning Teslas, the politics, everything. But he, he's focused on the signal. He's building his companies and this dude, since he's two years old and now he's in his mid 50s, still wants to go to space and he's employing guys like this that want to change the world.

• 2:02:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 2:02:43Tom Ellsworth?

  You asked about Jamie Dimon and if there's anybody that I'd like to have some reverse aging for, it's Jamie Dimon. You're seeing a guy here, if you've read the book Barbarians to Bureaucrats, you're seeing a guy who refuses to go the way and fall into the pit and be the permanent bureaucrat. This is the guy who spoke so eloquently and so forcefully, and yes, a little profanely, about work from home and about getting back after COVID and about communicating with each other and talking to people. And he's speaking clearly about the swamp. He refuses to be the dead crusty bureaucrat. He holds back and it's almost like he's reversing the aging of leadership

• 2:03:28Tom Ellsworth?

  a little bit, Pat. And if he's able to keep leading like this, people are worried about the succession. You know, I'm worried about can we get another year out? Can we get another year out? I feel like when I look at Tom Brady, I feel like it's what the Patriot fans probably thought. Can we have one more year of Brady? One more year of Brady? Can he get one more year, you know? They, and I look at Diamond and that's what I think. I think how can we get just a little bit more out of this guy? Because I love what he's saying. I think he's dead on. I don't even want to talk about the reporter, but that reaction is the way everybody reacts to him because he won't play their game.

• 2:04:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And again, this is one of my favorite clips. However, while this is going on, reports comes out, come out that Trump. Administration and Trump is suing Chase for $5 billion. Rob, I don't know if you have that clip or not. Is this it? Yep. Explaining the lawsuit? Yep. So this happens like, pretty much, within 24 hours apart. Go ahead.

• 2:04:28Speaker 07

  Has filed a lawsuit against JP Morgan Chase and Jamie Dimon personally over allegations of de-banking of Trump-related bank accounts during the period of time that the president was out of office. This is a suit for as much as $5 billion filed by the President of the United States and a number of Trump entities against JP Morgan and Jamie Dimon as an individual. And we have a statement here from JP Morgan, just within the past couple of seconds. They say, "While we regret President Trump has sued us, we believe the suit has no merit. We respect the president's right to sue us and our right to defend ourselves. That's what courts are for.

• 2:05:09Speaker 07

  JP Morgan Chase does not close accounts for political or religious reasons. We do close accounts because they create legal or regulatory risk for the company. We regret having to do so, but often rules and regulatory expectations lead us to do so. We have been asking both this administration and prior administrations to change the rules and regulations that put us in this position, and we support the administration's efforts to prevent the weaponization of the banking sector." That's an on-the-record comment from JP Morgan spokesperson Trish Wexler. Scott, so this lawsuit is a 56-page document. We're going through it right now. The gist of the argument is that this de-banking was improper and due to political reasons. That's what the president says in the filing.

• 2:05:52Speaker 07

  And we saw, Scott, Jamie Dimon, very outspoken in Davos, being one of the few CEOs to go public with the critics.

• 2:06:00Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it there. By the way, you have to realize, I mean, what this does. They asked him to shut his accounts down within a 60-day notice. This is Chase. Anything related to him, hey, everything's got to shut down within 60 day notice. What do you call that? Disruption for the business? There's many legal terms to use that Tom, you and I have been a part of. One carrier one time did this to us. When Tom and I were at the, uh, uh, what is this place? The highest point in Colorado, not Vale. What is that place called? Say it again?

• 2:06:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Breckenridge?

• 2:06:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Breckenridge. So we're in Breckenridge and we're in the car, he and I.

• 2:06:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 2:06:39Patrick Bet-David?

  With the. All around us. Tom is sitting next to us. We get a call

• 2:06:45Patrick Bet-David?

  from an insurance carrier we got and within a 30 day notice, they dropped the contract. 30 day notice, they dropped the contract. This was a guy that we were about their previous CEO that had left two or three years ago. Prior to that, wanted to come and be the CEO of our company. And they decided, nope, 30 days, we're dropping a contract. What do you mean you're dropping? It was the biggest disruption that took place, biggest now. Afterwards, everything got scored away. We had to go through, they came back, they relationship, it's all good. Everything got scored away, uh, that, that we had to get in place. But I fully understand the lawsuit. Don't forget, this is a moment where, do you remember it's like Facebook, Trump saw Facebook, Google, boom. YouTube, boom, Twitter, boom, account, boom.

• 2:07:28Patrick Bet-David?

  This is when, you know, everybody was losing PayPal. You know, Alex Jones couldn't do business with anybody, all these conservative guys, YouTube channels being taken down. I actually understand the argument of doing that, especially being Chase. And you got to move your money from your accounts that you have to go to different accounts with unfavorable terms that you have to go to. In no other situation has this ever happened. You do it to a US president? You, you think he's going to forget?

• 2:07:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Nope.

• 2:07:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You think he's going to sit there? So to me, there's a part of me that is a big fan of the way when Diamond speaks, I listen to it. I'm like, I really like the way this guy thinks. But for them to make a decision like that, that was a massive screw up on Chase's end. When they did this in 2021, Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 2:08:12Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll give you, uh, if you look at that quote, you know how I kind of parse legal languages and I, sometimes I find little antennas in there.

• 2:08:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You said this yesterday.

• 2:08:20Tom Ellsworth?

  They said, "Legal and regulatory expectations." When I read her quote from Chase, and every word of that quote went through three PR people and Chase's army of attorneys before that was handed to the network. "Legal and regulatory expectations." Whose expectations? The Biden administration was putting pressure on Chase. So Chase may have made a terrible mistake, and I think they did, but I think what will come out is they're gonna say, "Hey, look, I got copies here of all the emails we got from the Biden administration. Can we find a..."

• 2:08:58Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not gonna get there, Tom. They're not gonna get there.

• 2:09:02Tom Ellsworth?

  You don't think so?

• 2:09:03Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not gonna get to Discovery. They're not gonna get... By the way, let me, let me...

• 2:09:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm saying, "Legal and regulatory expectation." I think they're gonna... Do you think they're gonna tell the Trump administration what happened?

• 2:09:14Patrick Bet-David?

  No. Here's, here's what I think is gonna... Let's go through it. Let's go through it. Let's process it together, okay? One, did you hear what Jamie Dimon said yesterday about Biden at Davos? Did you guys hear on the speech what he said? Okay, so let me tell you why this is important, okay? That maybe gives credence to your argument. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna come back to you. Can you type in Jamie Dimon, Davos, Biden? Okay? Jamie Dimon, Davos, Biden. Is that it, Rob? Can you zoom in so I can see it? No. He talks about, "I am still so furious with what happened with the border under Biden and what that did to the economy." It was at Davos. I'll find it, I'll send it to you.

• 2:09:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Was it Dimon or Ken Griffin?

• 2:10:00Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Jamie Dimon. Ken Griffin destroyed the Biden administration. He did. But, but Jamie Dimon said this. So to me, if they do Discovery, Tom, okay? If they do Discovery, and they find out that they made the decision to close Trump's accounts with Chase within 60 days, that's the only, you know, time they gave him, 60 days. If they find out that the Biden administration asked them to do it and they listened, who looks weak?

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• 2:11:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Chase looks like they wouldn't stand up to totalitarianism.

• 2:11:37Patrick Bet-David?

  That's why they can't go to discovery.

• 2:11:40Patrick Bet-David?

  They can't go to discovery. So I'm expecting a 52-200 million dollar check being paid out. This can be the biggest check they're going to pay out to them. You cannot do this. This is not acceptable. You cannot get in the way of somebody that's running a business because you don't agree with them politically, and the White House calls you and tells you better close those accounts? That discovery of the emails, what is the percentage of the Bidens saying close those accounts? What do you think is a percentage that they can actually crawl and find those emails?

• 2:12:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, 90%.

• 2:12:09Patrick Bet-David?

  80%? I'm with you. Say 80%.

• 2:12:11Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm 100% that it happened, and 80% they can find the evidence.

• 2:12:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Perfect. They find that. You want Jamie's legacy to end on that? No way. Jamie's going to go to the board, he's going to say, "Look, guys." Can you tell me, Rob, what is JP Morgan Chase's cash balance right now? What is Chase's cash balance right now?

• 2:12:32Tom Ellsworth?

  You want to guess, Vinny?

• 2:12:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to JP Morgan's cash balance right now. How much cash do they have on their balance sheet right now? Pure cash. Does it show how much they're sitting on cash? Let's see if it's a publicly... We should be able to see it. Do you see it or no? Tom, what... How much...

• 2:12:51Tom Ellsworth?

  You need to just go balance sheet?

• 2:12:52Patrick Bet-David?

  How much cash is Chase Bank sitting on right now on their balance sheet? Okay? This is how the meeting's going to go. Jamie's gonna go to the board and he's gonna say they're sitting on 303 billion dollars of cash is what they're sitting on right now.

• 2:13:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 2:13:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, 303 billion dollars of cash.

• 2:13:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Four trillion total assets.

• 2:13:19Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, 303 billion dollars of cash, Tom, you know what he's gonna say? He's gonna say, settle 200 million dollars, let it go. Sir, the president wants 500 million, offer 50 million, but settle at 200 million. This thing's gonna settle between, you know, somewhere between 30 to 200 million dollars and they're gonna go away. You cannot do this.

• 2:13:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Remember, they settled for 290 on the Epstein claims.

• 2:13:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, you cannot do this.

• 2:13:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You cannot do this. This, to me, is like, you cannot get to this place because you're trying to destroy a man's life because you don't agree with his politics and his ideology.

• 2:13:59Speaker 05

  Do you know when the timing of it was? Or you make a great, that's, I'm with you 1,000%. You know when this happened? January 6th happened and then a couple of weeks later, they gave him the 60-day thing. This is, it's blatantly obvious. It was because of the politics and I think you make a great point. You don't want them to actually have to unravel and pull the curtain back to find out. Because by the way, banks should be neutral. Your job is to hold my money, safeguard it, facilitate transactions, that's it. Once you start making decisions for politics, it stops being a financial institution and it's a private governing body. Just hold my money, don't get politics from me.

• 2:14:35Patrick Bet-David?

  We will never know the truth about this.

• 2:14:37Speaker 05

  Nope.

• 2:14:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Because everybody knows what happened.

• 2:14:39Tom Ellsworth?

  And I think, I think you're right. I think that word expectations in there is intentional, which is why they're gonna write the check.

• 2:14:45Patrick Bet-David?

  For sure.

• 2:14:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Who do I write this out to?

• 2:14:47Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. And by the way, even, even if, like, they're throwing Biden under the bus. And by the way, he did yesterday at Davos. He, in the 30, 29-minute talk that he gave, he intentionally threw Biden under the bus.

• 2:14:59Tom Ellsworth?

  And then he backed up twice.

• 2:15:00Patrick Bet-David?

  You think he's a fan of Biden? Jamie cannot stand what Biden administration did. We have to almost play the Griffin to say, the day he was out, my life got better. The day he was done business got better. Rob, if you can go to the transcript and find the part, I know what you're doing, on when he uses the phrase Biden and the border, it's Biden border. Did you find it? Watch this.

• 2:15:23Speaker 06

  I'm still angry at the Biden administration.

• 2:15:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go back a little bit. What did he say? I want the audience to hear what he says. Go ahead.

• 2:15:29Speaker 02

  Much, much more skeptical of immigration, both, you know, legal and illegal.

• 2:15:33Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:15:34Speaker 02

  Is that good?

• 2:15:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at the first phrase. Listen.

• 2:15:35Speaker 06

  I, I'm still angry.

• 2:15:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Angry.

• 2:15:37Speaker 06

  Biden administration, what they're allowed to happen, okay?

• 2:15:40Patrick Bet-David?

  What they allowed to happen.

• 2:15:41Speaker 06

  Severely damaged our country. And then, and they say, oh, there's nothing you can do about it. No, Trump comes in, boom, it's closed. God bless them. You know, if countries have to control their borders, or they will cause huge problems. And you have that all over Europe. Uh, and it's even worse there because in America, most people coming to America want to be American. They come to work. They can't wait to become a citizen of the United States of America. That's not true for most of the European, uh, uh, immigration.

• 2:16:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. You can pause it right there. He's making such a great point. I'm gonna come to you. Yeah, he's making such a good point. But there's something that he said in the interview. They asked him a question at the beginning 30 seconds. She opens it up. She says, you know, what are the biggest lessons you've learned in your career? He says two things. One, she says, how about investments? Investments, we're gonna make money. We're gonna lose money. We move on. That's okay. He said, but I'm gonna tell you two biggest mistakes, uh, we've learned from. What? One, we had a great opportunity. We sat on it for too long. We lost it. Two, we had a bad person to fire. We sat on it too long. Then it took us a while to recover. We had to fire sooner and move on from somebody. I'm paraphrasing. This here, he knows he screwed up. He knows he screwed up.

• 2:16:52Patrick Bet-David?

  This, this stuff that he's saying about Biden, in my opinion, this is his way to tell Trump, hey, I'm with you. I'm giving you credit here to make sure, be gentle with us. Because it's going to be brutal and they're gonna have to cut the check. And it's well deserved. You cannot do something like that to stop someone's bank account. You cannot do that. That's cross. And by the way, I'm even talking about with people you disagree with. I'm talking like, take the worst person in America right now. Whoever it is, who's the worst person in the world right now? Take, take anybody, take anybody right now. You can't mess with the banking stuff. You can't. Because if you do that to them, it's gonna come back to the other side.

• 2:17:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You cannot do, there's certain things that you know how people go here, you know, and then they go here. I would much rather we fight here. If you go here, I have to retaliate here. Of course. I have to retaliate here. It's a very like, you watch Game of Thrones and, you know, Tico, uh, three days ago is telling me, says, Dad, do you know? Of the sixty something Roman emperors, do you know how many them, um, uh, uh, were, uh, uh, lost the throne by the sword? I said, what's the number? Thirty-eight. Damn. By the sword. They were taken, replaced by the sword. He's telling me this. Okay, you take my throne by the sword, what do you think's happening to you? Same thing coming to you. Your, my, my son's gonna come and do the same thing to you. And then guess what's gonna happen? And then guess what's gonna happen?

• 2:18:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Doesn't stop. This is not gonna happen. I mean, so you think Trump forgot about what Chase did? No. And what a perfect timing on when he drops it. What a perfect timing on when he drops it. He's questioning who he wants to choose as his, you know, Jerome Powell replacement. There's some comments that's made. Oh, you wanna criticize me? Here you go. I haven't forgotten. I've kept it here. Here's the lawsuit. Right at Davos. What are you gonna do about it? Okay, so I think to give Jamie credit, I, I'm a Jamie fan. I like what he's done. But this is, if there's, if, anytime in your career, you're gonna have a lot of screw ups. I make the list of the worst mistakes I've made as a executive, when you're building a company. This is, in my opinion, top two lists of mistakes he made.

• 2:19:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You do not do this to a president. I don't care what it is with January sixth. The credit goes to Tim Cook when Obama was begging him to release the phones of San Bernardino, you know, the, the details with that. And what did Tim Cook do? The boyfriend, girlfriend, and the shooter. No? Nah, I'm not gonna give it to you. Yep. What do you mean? I'm not gonna give it to you. As shitty as this last iOS update is, which is the worst update Apple's ever done, oh my God, it sucks. Folks, please, don't update your phones. When it says, would you like to update your phone? Say no. No, thank you. I don't wanna update it until they figure, this is the worst, after, I, I take a picture screenshot. I got three additional steps. Yeah. I just took a screenshot, add it in the pictures. I'm trying to go find my playlist. I gotta go seven steps.

• 2:19:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Trying to text somebody, but because Tim Cook's the CEO. And he is somebody that's still gonna protect what's in here. I am a, I am a supporter of some of the things that Tim Cook does. This is not a good look for him. Adam, I'm gonna come to you then, I'm gonna play the Griffin clip here.

• 2:20:02Speaker 06

  Well, it's so obvious, they tried to do Trump so dirty. And why did they do that? Cause they didn't think that he was ever coming back. And you know, he's back, kind of a thing. You know, Trump, he was right about everything. Look at this. They all came after him. They de-banked him, they deplatformed him. Legacy media attacked him, like they always do. Politicians abandoned him. You know, Tucker Carlson, the tweet, the famous text message. I hate him with a passion. I can't wait for the day he's gone. He's back. So we all see what's happening with that. Why are they all piling on Biden now? Cause there's a 0% chance he's ever coming back.

• 2:20:45Speaker 06

  And there's maybe a 1% chance that Kamala's ever seen or heard from again. So of course they're gonna pile on Biden. This is actually the nature of healing. Number two, remember when Eric Trump was here? And he talked about, yes, they de-banked us. But when one door closes, another door opens. That's why we're so big in the crypto space now. Cause we lost our banking. Are you kidding me? So there's always in America with free market capitalism. Oh, you wanna de-bank us? Really, bro? Boom, crypto. And now they're gonna do that.

• 2:21:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta be careful with this.

• 2:21:19Speaker 06

  So here's the last part. The, yes, Bank of America, I'm sorry, Chase should be held accountable. The most famous line, in my opinion, that Jamie Dimon has ever said, he goes, listen, I have a lot of liberal friends. They all have big hearts and very small brains. And this is something that he's gonna be dealing with, with his customer base, with the president. You know, what percentage of his customers hate Trump? Probably half of them. So he's gonna have to maneuver this very fluently.

• 2:21:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's play this Ken Griffin clip and I wanna wrap it up on this. Go ahead, Rob. This is Ken Griffin of Citadel, billionaire, super successful. Moved his business from Chicago down to Miami. Here's what he has to say about Biden's administration.

• 2:22:00Speaker 07

  You cannot imagine how painful it was each and every day under the Biden administration to look at what new crazy proposal was being put into place to solve a problem. That didn't even exist. I mean, our, our constant friction at Citadel with the government across umpteen different aspects of our business was exhausting. And to have that literally end on one day, Election Day, just gives you so much energy, as I'm sure, to go back and build your damn business. So the, the biggest sea change I've seen across

• 2:22:43Patrick Bet-David?

  She's not happy about his answer.

• 2:22:45Speaker 07

  Has been just like the, the giant sigh of relief. I can now go and focus on building my business. And that prior administration, you know, I, we happen to be a creditor of Spirit. Their merger with, with JetBlue was stopped. Spirit's in bankruptcy today.

• 2:23:07Speaker 07

  There were so many decisions that were so, so poorly thought out in terms of economic consequences. It cost the US economy dearly. I, I cannot emphasize that enough.

• 2:23:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I, I love this.

• 2:23:20Speaker 07

  And so the Trump administration is making slow progress on deregulation thus far. But the end of the regulatory onslaught has been just an extraordinary boom for American business.

• 2:23:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, I'll just come to you on this one. Your thoughts on what Ken just said?

• 2:23:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I love it. And God bless you, Kim Griffin, for coming down to 8:30 Brickell and building Headquarters Number One. And he's building Headquarters Number Two, I believe, at 1201 Brickell. I drive by there and I, I just can't wait because those are going to be symbols, you know, of, of capitalism. And more importantly, they were symbols of decisions. Listen to the passion in his voice. Just getting back to run my business. This is not a billionaire with 10 yachts doing nothing. This is a guy that still wants to make a difference and drive it. And by the way, let me paint a picture for you. Let me paint a picture for you. They were a creditor to Spirit Airlines. That means that Citadel had all the people

• 2:24:19Tom Ellsworth?

  that put their money with Citadel, family offices, you know, endowments from colleges, all the people that come to Ken Griffin and say, "You make decisions on where to put my money and invest it." And one of those things they did, they did bonds for Spirit Airlines. And when Spirit Airlines wasn't allowed to merge, and you would have had them absorbed into another airline, and then Southwest over here, you still would have had low-cost airline choices for the American traveler, still would have had choices, plus Delta, plus United, plus American, plus the, you know, the, those are the majors, and, you know, JetBlue. You would have still had all that, Pat. But you know what happened there?

• 2:25:01Tom Ellsworth?

  That wasn't government money that was in those bonds. That was investor money. And when he says, "This is the, what you did to the American economy," when the Biden administration blocked that merger, for whatever reason, someone didn't give enough to a campaign, perhaps, those families and those endowments and those things, lost money. And Citadel had to restructure the bonds and do things. That's a guy with passion, and I love him giving the facts, the truth, and telling the story of how terrible leadership at the federal level impacts the whole economy.

• 2:25:37Patrick Bet-David?

  You ready for this, Tom? Let me break you down for you. I'm in Chicago, at the St. Regis. I just opened up, right by the lake, beautiful, beautiful property, right on the water, next to great restaurants. And we're there at a Goldman Sachs event. That's when, you know, they gave me the entrepreneur, the award, whatever it was, the event I went to two, three years ago. You remember this one? Did you go with me on this one or no?

• 2:25:59Tom Ellsworth?

  I was not with you on that one.

• 2:26:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so I go to this one. Oh, somebody didn't let you go on that one. That's right. So, uh, it's an inside joke. So, I go to that one. Okay, he knows what I'm talking about.

• 2:26:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm suing him for $5 billion.

• 2:26:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's right. So, do you know the entire time, what they talked about at this event?

• 2:26:16Tom Ellsworth?

  What?

• 2:26:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Ken Griffin leaving. That's all they talked about. We lost Ken Griffin. We lost everybody was talking Ken Griffin. Ken Griffin. Chicago lost Ken Griffin. They could have kept him. Bad policies is pushing people like that out? And guess who's the beneficiary of getting Ken Griffin? South Florida, Miami, Florida, won by getting Ken Griffin. Send a great, logical player that's investing, that just wants to do business, and do deals to your market, you want him. You know who's losing people like that? A guy named Gavin Newsom, who if you ask ChatGPT, what is Gavin Newsom's greatest accomplishment?

• 2:26:59Patrick Bet-David?

  It says homelessness initiative. Can you imagine the greatest accomplishment? Even ChatGPT can't come up with an accomplishment. I asked Bill Maher on, you know, if you remember that clip with Bill Maher, like, tell me what he's done. Tell me what his accomplishment. I just like the guy. By the way, since then, he's flipped on him. Really? He's not as supportive of Newsom as he used to be. But what's the point? You cannot lose people like this. You're losing great. Pritzker was the governor when he lost Ken Griffin, no? Pritzker's been there for a minute. Pritzker loses Griffin and many others.

• 2:27:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Lori Lightbrin.

• 2:27:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Lightfoot. California Newsom loses Musk, loses, you know, Sergey Brin, loses the Google guy. Loses Chamath. I don't know.

• 2:27:43Tom Ellsworth?

  A trillion of family wealth.

• 2:27:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Sax, loses a bunch of these guys that are leaving because of bad policies. The only question right now, when you think about this, as we're getting to 2028, are Americans gonna remember this? And the year that's gonna matter the most? My prediction, 2028? I think riots are gonna be back up. Protesting's gonna be to the roof. They're gonna need to get another George Floyd be-good story that's gonna be massively chaotic to see how chaotic it is under Trump. Trump can do everything right in 25, 26, 27, 28. They have to show chaos to make sure Newsom gets in there and Vance and Rubio don't stand a chance. But again, we'll see what happens.

• 2:28:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I actually thought this Davos was a very eventful event. A lot of things happened, a lot of good things was revealed. And the world has to make a decision what direction they want to go to. Do you want to go to Newsom route? Do you want to go this way? And I hope these, you know, behind closed doors, I hope JD and Rubio are working on having more victories the next couple of years, because they're not gonna stop playing for the 2028. Anyways. Efren, great having you on. This was a blast. Thank you. We had a good time with you at dinner yesterday, and you actually did great. I gotta tell you guys, we'll have experts on who are known influencers, and they're breathing hard just sitting here before we get started. Cool as a cucumber. The guy's just been sitting here like he's been doing this for 20 years. Chilling.

• 2:29:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Calm, relaxed, chill, good for you. When is your birthday, by the way? What month? June 6. June 6. Alright, so very calm. Is that a Gemini? Gemini, yes. That's a Gemini, yes. Very cool, calm. Last night, we're sitting there, you know, Vinny right off the bat tells them to pull a prank, and that didn't work. It backfired on us. It backfired really bad. Because the story was a little too real. Hilarious. And Efren couldn't act with that thing because, you know, one investment back in the days, you know, I invested in Nike back in the days, made good returns. And thank you for the first-person account of working at SpaceX. That was fascinating. That was fascinating. That was fascinating. Gang? My pleasure. Uh, I'm gonna do an Iran podcast tomorrow. Rob, are we live streaming that? Yes, sir.

• 2:29:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna do an Iran podcast tomorrow. I have a pro-monarchy guy that is very much pro Rezap Alavi, and I have a pro-Republican guy, not a monarchy, that'll be coming here tomorrow to discuss Iran because there's a lot of things. I've been wanting to do an Iran podcast with everything that's going on. We're doing one tomorrow, so stay tuned. Tomorrow morning, I will do a podcast on Iran. Everybody else, have a great weekend. God bless. We'll do it again next week. Take care, everybody. Bye-bye, bye-bye.

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