Trump Nobel SHOCKER, Katie Porter's Campaign Disaster, Letitia James INDICTED & Gaza Ceasefire | PBD Podcast | Ep. 644

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down the shocking outcome of Trump’s Nobel Peace Prize bid, Katie Porter’s campaign implosion, Letitia James’ indictment, and the global reaction to the Gaza ceasefire. ------ 📺 PBD'S INTERVIEW WITH TEAMSTERS PRESIDENT SEAN O'BRIEN - LIVE ON SATURDAY, 10/11 @ 9AM ET: https://bit.ly/3IEQsdn 🇺🇸 CELEBRATE CHARLIE KIRK'S BIRTHDAY - 100% OF PROCEEDS GO DIRECTLY TO CHARLIE KIRK'S FAMILY: https://bit.ly/4heRGIX Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:26Speaker 01

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• 1:04Speaker 02

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright? My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:12Speaker 01

  You are a one of one?

• 1:13Speaker 02

  My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:21Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, folks, if you're Italian, we're back. According to what the president had to say. Columbus Day is back, folks. A lot of exciting things here that's taking place. Chicago mayor not too happy about a few things that's going on. Letitia James, do you remember Letitia James? Tish! The one that was going after the president for a bunch of different things? Apparently, she's the one that's actually doing the dirty work. Uh-oh. And she actually just got indicted, right, Rob? Yes, sir. She got indicted, and she has a message for you. We'll play for you. She wants to talk to you guys today, right off the bat in the morning. And then aside from that, uh, uh, uh, Trump says the first phase of Gaza peace plan

• 2:04Patrick Bet-David?

  has been signed. I've never seen so many leftist liberal mainstream media folks having to say what Trump did is monumental. What he did is incredible. And then one host says, asking another liberal host, how big of a deal this is. This may be one of the greatest things we've ever seen. I mean, it was as if everybody became Trump's agent manager yesterday from the left.

• 2:31Adam Sosnick?

  Publicist.

• 2:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Except for one organization. And that one organization is a guy from back in the days who didn't like the way his name was being built. So he started something called the Nobel Peace Prize.

• 2:42Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, got you.

• 2:43Patrick Bet-David?

  And they were, they were looking at who to give it to yesterday. After all the stuff that happened.

• 2:47Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:48Patrick Bet-David?

  They chose to give it to somebody that's been on the podcast before. Maria Corina Machado is who got it instead of Trump, the Nobel Peace Prize. Just because she went up against Maduro. Nothing else has happened yet. She got the Nobel Peace Prize over Trump. That's who got it yesterday. I don't know if it's finalized or not, Tom. You can probably correct me. It's been finalized, but it looks like it's gonna be her.

• 3:07Tom Ellsworth?

  It's been announced. And Zelensky's. I don't remember her speech at the Berlin Wall. She must've done one.

• 3:12Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. And Zelensky was pissed because he's like, I, I would recommend Trump if he just gave us more tomahawk missiles.

• 3:17Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. Can you imagine that? Give us more tomahawk missiles. We'll nominate you.

• 3:21Adam Sosnick?

  What?

• 3:22Tom Ellsworth?

  You give me instrument of death, I give you peace votes.

• 3:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe say that privately. You say that publicly. What a level of, you know, that's what you call a professional beggar. Where, where you are so shameless, the level of shameless is purely gone.

• 3:33Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a mob, it's a mob deal.

• 3:35Patrick Bet-David?

  It is a mob deal. I agree. Anyways.

• 3:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh my goodness.

• 3:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Chris Cuomo and Eric Trump, uh, he was asked the question and Eric Trump just went, uh, he went off. He went off in a big way and, uh, we'll, we'll have, uh, that clip, uh,

• 3:46Adam Sosnick?

  Love it.

• 3:47Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll react to as well. And then we got a few other things that's going on here. Trump, I think, Rob, is he already in, uh, he's planning on going to Egypt this Sunday or this weekend, something like that, right?

• 3:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, Sunday.

• 3:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Sunday. He's planning on going to Egypt. Uh, apparently, uh, Israel is paying influencers up to $7,000 per post to occupy information space. And actually, out of everybody on the panel here that wants to talk about it, Adam, Adam's gonna give the details of how those payments are made. Yeah, exactly. And how they send it through. I'm a billionaire now, actually. Venmo? I don't know that. Hundred and fifty million, eh, what it used to be, though, guys? Yeah. I know that, come on. Gazans join Israelis in chanting Trump's name overseas. Fire Nobel Prize to Trump. Guess what, Gazans? It went to Maria Corina Machado, is who he went to. But it is, it is what it is. Hakeem Jeffries goes on CNBC and CNBC starts asking Hakeem Jeffries some questions. And he starts talking about how America is doing and Hakeem doesn't like it.

• 4:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, just the look on his face is the best face to look at when you see what's going on there. A little fire scarecrow. Yeah. Zohran Mamdani admits he might need Plan B to fund ten billion dollar agenda if he can't hike taxes on the wealthy. Ooh. On the wealthy, in the city with the most billionaires. He wants to go after them. It is what it is. He's going to win. And Andrew Cuomo was on The View saying Trump wants Mamdani to win. Because Trump's gonna use this on the midterms to say this is what the face of the new Democratic party is. So who knows? Who knows what's gonna happen there? Stephen Miller swats down CNN's host dumb questions about Trump administration racially profiling.

• 5:21Patrick Bet-David?

  And then this one Arab in, in Dearborn says, I don't feel safe anymore. Dearborn's Arabs, Americans on rising Islamophobia. So an Arabic person who's... Says they don't feel safe in America. And they're Muslim themselves. So why don't they go back to, you know, the, whatever Saudi or Afghanistan or Pakistan? This time of year, it's amazing.

• 5:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Actually, it's a moderate who's saying, these other people are kinda crazy, guys.

• 5:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that what this guy's saying?

• 5:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, you can go check him out.

• 5:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, we'll check him out to see what's going on here, but...

• 5:52Tom Ellsworth?

  But that's very inconvenient.

• 5:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's very inconvenient. It is what it is. But there's this new person, folks, that's my favorite person to watch videos of. I'm telling you, I am, I am hooked on Katie Porter. How many videos have you seen? This lady is absolutely nuts. I love it. She's awesome. She is made for TV. Her temper is worse than a Middle Eastern father's temper. His temper is worse than, I don't know, Mike Ditka? Who, think about who's got the worst temper? Bill O'Reilly is a sweetheart compared to this person. And when you watch California, this is a shout out for you guys because I'm so happy for you. You're about to get her potentially as your next governor. She's amazing. You think Newsom's bad? Wait till you get Katie.

• 6:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Porter coming to a California city.

• 6:41Tom Ellsworth?

  The view has offered her a three year deal.

• 6:43Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Tom, she, I'm telling you, she is not, she's a person that's determined and driven by control, not by money. She wants to control people. You will see by the way she speaks.

• 6:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, she's in the right state.

• 6:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep, she's in the right states, California. More good news coming your way. Communities will not survive. Insurance nightmares could empty small California towns. Okay, you know what I know about people in California? They're so loyal, they'll never leave. They will never leave.

• 7:11Adam Sosnick?

  They're like, they're like, they're like, like Browns fans, football, even better than that?

• 7:15Patrick Bet-David?

  If Ilhan Omar became the governor of California, they would stay even longer, especially Armenians and Assyrians and Middle Eastern.

• 7:22Adam Sosnick?

  I don't get it, I don't get it.

• 7:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I have so much respect for these Armenians, Assyrians and, and Middle Easterns, Persians, Iranians. I'm not going nowhere. I mean, their level of loyalty to folks like Katie Porter, Newsom, and all the ridiculous regulations.

• 7:42Adam Sosnick?

  Is it like Stockholm syndrome where they fall in love with their abusers? Like, no, I can't, I love, California loves me. Yet abuses me, but I love her.

• 7:49Tom Ellsworth?

  California can put laxatives in the water so that you couldn't work for more than five minutes at a time and people would stay.

• 7:54Patrick Bet-David?

  But I'm telling you, the other day at the boardroom, when we had Eric Trump here at the cigar lounge, I spoke to 15 Armenians.

• 8:01Adam Sosnick?

  Really?

• 8:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm telling you. And I'm like, why did you get here? Hey, we have a business out of Miami. We moved here because of video of, you know, 10 reasons why I moved to Florida. What are you doing here? I run the Ferrari shop. What are you doing here? I run this. I met this couple, beautiful couple, Ferrari guy, Jack, phenomenal couple. Talked to him and his wife. Great story, the way they met, you know, where they're from, and the whole story was fantastic. Then another couple comes in, then a bunch of Glendale people were there. I'm telling you, God kept this city of Boca Raton for Armenians and Assyrians.

• 8:33Tom Ellsworth?

  And they're coming.

• 8:34Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and the right ones. Not all of them, the right ones are coming. The super loyalists to California and Detroit and Chicago and, and Torlock, there is no way they will come.

• 8:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Hell no.

• 8:46Patrick Bet-David?

  But the big thinkers. That have big plans for their kids that are job creators.

• 8:50Adam Sosnick?

  They're coming here.

• 8:50Patrick Bet-David?

  They're coming to Boca Raton, okay? And listen, I'm not running for mayor of Boca. Boca is gonna be the beneficiary of this, but you're gonna see Boca is the closest thing to Beverly Hills, meets Glendale, meets the rich areas of certain area. You're gonna see Armenian churches in Boca, right down the street. They're coming. Anyways, not that I'm lobbying.

• 9:10Tom Ellsworth?

  And my mom lives in Boca, guys, so.

• 9:12Adam Sosnick?

  I go to the mall every weekend. I go there to get chicks. That place is awesome.

• 9:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember that one time?

• 9:16Tom Ellsworth?

  They're all 70.

• 9:17Patrick Bet-David?

  We went some week, me, Vinnie and the kids went to the mall one time. It was me, were you me and?

• 9:21Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, we went through it.

• 9:22Patrick Bet-David?

  For Jen or something?

• 9:23Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, we ran through it.

• 9:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And Vinnie is like, what the hell is going on here?

• 9:27Adam Sosnick?

  How many beautiful people were in?

• 9:28Patrick Bet-David?

  You just got the wives of the Armenian husband saying, babe, we're not going to Boca.

• 9:32Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, stay out of the.

• 9:32Tom Ellsworth?

  So you're crucifying?

• 9:33Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, chicks everywhere.

• 9:36Patrick Bet-David?

  They were everywhere.

• 9:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Baby, take out your teeth and show me a good time.

• 9:39Adam Sosnick?

  Question?

• 9:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let me just go some stomach issues. Go to the next one. Gay throuple. Adopt three-year-old.

• 9:47Adam Sosnick?

  Right.

• 9:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Child and legal batter over three dads. That's dividing woke dystopia. Give me a flipping break.

• 9:54Adam Sosnick?

  That's what they wanna call it?

• 9:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my goodness. Okay. Bill Maher rips Kamala Harris for playing victim over campaign loss in her new book. 107 Days. Turning Point USA announces. Alternative Super Bowl halftime show. I think if there's anybody that can pull that off and do it the right way, with all the right context, is these guys. A lot of people messaged me saying, do you guys wanna do it? I said, I think TPUSA is gonna be the right person to do it, and I'm glad they're doing it. And we'll see who's gonna be showing up there. Diddy. Feds keep Diddy's videos. The Ibiza tapes that he took, you know, the one that we also got on the jet? And boxes of things that they had?

• 10:30Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 10:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Devices used in sick freak-off sex sessions, the Fed got it. Now, the Feds have it. Now, can you imagine what the Feds are gonna be doing? Like, the guys this weekend, we're gonna watch all the tapes.

• 10:41Adam Sosnick?

  Oh my gosh.

• 10:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Imagine that's what you do for a living. That's your job. You're like, hey, who's in? Dude, I'm in. And you sit there and watch all the tapes. All these FBI guys are sitting there saying, no way.

• 10:51Tom Ellsworth?

  She was there.

• 10:51Patrick Bet-David?

  He with him.

• 10:53Adam Sosnick?

  Is that me?

• 10:53Patrick Bet-David?

  He with her, and then two weeks later, what were in the tapes? Nothing.

• 10:56Adam Sosnick?

  Nothing.

• 10:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Zero.

• 10:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Nothing was in the tapes.

• 10:58Tom Ellsworth?

  We could use them as evidence in the trial.

• 11:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 11:01Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, that's what they think we would do.

• 11:02Adam Sosnick?

  You mean it's like the tens of thousands of hours that Penn Bondi was talking about, but that doesn't exist anymore? Okay, gotcha.

• 11:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I talked to somebody interesting yesterday that was with the DOJ, but anyways. Donald Trump confirms Shondali Combs requested a pardon, okay? Democrats demand robot tax as AI reportedly threatens to replace 100 million jobs. By the way, guys, this is not a joke. Like, this is real. Matt Walsh tweeted something yesterday that I actually agree with him on this tweet. Rob, if you can find his tweet about AI, I'm gonna, I'm gonna show it here in a minute as we go through it. So i- it's, I don't know if I agree 100%, but I do think it's coming, and I think people have to be ready for it. It's going to be nasty when this thing comes and it arrives. And outside of that, we got a couple of other stories here that we'll cover as well.

• 11:51Patrick Bet-David?

  And, uh, you know, uh, uh, some, some videos to share with you. Abigail Spargar, Winsome Earl Sears, Spar in Virginia Governor, what a frickin', give me simple names. Anyways, these people in Virginia are fighting, so we'll show you the clips. Telegram's Durrow, Internet's become an ultimate tool of control? Bingo. And a few other things that we'll cover on this. That Iris announces new federal income tax bracket for 2026. But before we get into the podcast, folks, October 14th, you know whose birthday is on October 14th? The great Charlie Kirk.

• 12:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 12:27Patrick Bet-David?

  This morning, you know what I was doing this morning? I was watching a podcast that we did with Charlie. And I, as I was watching it, I was telling myself, I, I so miss talking to this guy. And I, I was like, hoping for another conversation with this guy, but he's no longer with us. So, this is what we're doing today. We did it last month, and we're gonna announce it again when all the sales that happen. Anything you buy, we have new shirts here, okay? That's Charlie Kirk, that says Live Free, Freedom, Live Free. Any of these shirts with Charlie Kirk's face on it, 100%, not profits, it's our cost.

• 13:03Patrick Bet-David?

  The ones that say Freedom Live Free, that are the Charlie Kirk's shirts, 100% of the proceeds are going to Charlie Kirk's kids for future college, business, whatever they choose to do.

• 13:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 13:16Patrick Bet-David?

  And I mean 100% of all the stuff that we're talking about. So if it's $50,000, it's going that way. It's $100,000, it's going that way. $200,000, it's going that way to their kids. So if you're somebody that loves Charlie and you want to get one of these shirts that says freedom to live free, go to the other one, Rob, if you don't mind going back. The other one that says live free, or the one that says freedom on the right, top right. This one is sick, by the way. Look at that shirt right there.

• 13:43Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, it's faces in there.

• 13:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, this one that says live free. This is a newer one. Go back, Rob, if you can, and then go to the one on the right, the top right one. Red, Charlie Kirk, freedom. Any of these shirts you pick up, 100% of proceeds will go to his kids. October 14th, this is one way of us giving a gift to him, who is no longer with us here today. Thank you for your support. With that being said, let's get into the podcast. My new favorite person in California, it's a lady named Katie Porter.

• 14:13Adam Sosnick?

  I love her.

• 14:13Patrick Bet-David?

  This lady's lost her mind, but she's so authentic, in the craziest way. I don't know what else to say about this one.

• 14:19Adam Sosnick?

  She's consistent.

• 14:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You're gonna, you're gonna watch, my worry is when I show you clips of her, you're gonna get off and keep watching clips of her, okay? I don't want to start off with this one, Rob. Let's start off with the interview where the lady's asking basic question, and she's like, "Why are you asking me this question?" We ask this question of all the candidates. "No, but why are you asking me that question?" We ask these questions of everybody. "No, but why are you asking me this question?" If you go and, Rob, you can start it from a minute in. Actually, go in.

• 14:46Adam Sosnick?

  And she almost like puts her hand right in her face.

• 14:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go start it from right there. Watch this, folks. Go ahead, Rob. She's running for governor, but don't we just pause this real quick? She's running for governor of California to replace Newsom. So she's gonna make you guys say, "Can we keep Newsom?"

• 15:01Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, God.

• 15:02Patrick Bet-David?

  That's how bad she is. Go ahead.

• 15:04Speaker 06

  The question is the same thing I asked everybody.

• 15:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back, go back 10 seconds.

• 15:08Adam Sosnick?

  They both use their hands. All the governors.

• 15:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Right there, go ahead.

• 15:10Speaker 06

  Republican votes before. That's not something every candidate in this race can say. If you're from a deep blue area, if you're from LA, or you're from Oakland, you don't have an experience. But you just said you don't need those Trump voters. Well, you asked me if I needed them to win. So you don't think you need them to win? I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative. What is your question? The question is, the same thing I ask everybody, that this is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's power grab. Every other candidate has answered this question. This is not

• 15:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Correct, and I said I support it.

• 15:39Speaker 06

  So, and the question is, what do you say to the 40% of voters who voted for Trump?

• 15:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you need them to win part that I don't understand. I'm happy to answer the question as you have it written and I'll answer it.

• 15:51Speaker 06

  And we've also asked the other candidates, do you think you need any of those 40% of California voters to win? And you're saying, no, you don't.

• 15:58Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I'm saying, I'm gonna try to win every vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is that...

• 16:03Speaker 06

  Well, to those voters, okay, so you...

• 16:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't want to keep doing this. I'm gonna call it.

• 16:07Adam Sosnick?

  Democrat, can't argue, can't debate.

• 16:10Speaker 06

  You're not gonna do the interview?

• 16:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And the lady interviewing her is a Democrat. Not like this, I'm not with seven follow-ups to every single question you ask.

• 16:16Speaker 06

  Every other candidate has...

• 16:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I love how she handled it. I don't care. I love how she handled it. I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation with you, ask me about every issue on this list. And if every question, you're gonna make up a follow-up question, then we're never gonna get there. And we're just gonna circle around.

• 16:31Speaker 06

  I am an investigative reporter.

• 16:33Patrick Bet-David?

  I have never had to do this before, ever.

• 16:34Adam Sosnick?

  Look at it, never been challenged.

• 16:36Speaker 06

  You've never had to have a conversation with...

• 16:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I've never been challenged like this.

• 16:39Speaker 06

  Okay, but every other candidate has done this.

• 16:41Patrick Bet-David?

  What part of, I'm me, I'm running for governor because I'm a leader. So, I am going to make...

• 16:47Speaker 06

  So, you're not gonna answer questions from reporters? Okay, why don't we go through, I will continue to ask follow-up questions because that's my job as a journalist, but I will go through and ask these, and if you don't want to answer, you don't want to answer. So, nearly every legislative...

• 17:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I am, I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you. Look at this. I don't want this on camera. I'm mourning you.

• 17:07Speaker 06

  I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either. I would love to continue to ask these questions so that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels about every one of these issues they...

• 17:15Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, pause it right here. This is, this is nothing compared to the next one. This next one is how she loses it on one of her team members. Watch this. This is what you call greatness, folks. This is made for, the world needs to see this. She was a rock star the last 24 hours on X. Everybody and their mothers wanted to make sure people knew how sweet she is. Watch this one. Go ahead, imagine this. We did a study recently, this fall, in September, and what it showed is if we don't electrify our transportation sector, so we're gonna lose more than half a million Californians dying prematurely to air pollution and other problems, and the state could lose...

• 17:56Speaker 01

  You're out of my fucking shop.

• 17:59Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 18:01Speaker 00

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• 18:26Speaker 01

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• 19:11Speaker 01

  I'm gonna start again.

• 19:12Adam Sosnick?

  Is she filming in her living room? In her kitchen? What do you mean? That's a refrigerator.

• 19:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you remember Elizabeth Warren had the beer in her kitchen? They're doing the same thing. They're trying to make her, hey, I'm a middle-class screaming wench of a stepmother, just like you have.

• 19:26Adam Sosnick?

  And just really quick, just to point out, the assistant or whoever that is, is wearing a mask, takes it off to talk, and then puts it back on. Just how ludicrous these people are.

• 19:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Watch this. Watch how she goes from Swede. She goes from Swede. Look at this. Go ahead.

• 19:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yes, this is why I didn't want to. I need the lights off, the bright lights. I'm so sorry, but I am about to get on. Bernard, I need you to turn these off.

• 19:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Bright lights, bright lights.

• 19:52Patrick Bet-David?

  These that are killing me. Hang on one second, everybody.

• 19:56Tom Ellsworth?

  She's in somebody else's studio. Demanding. Look at this.

• 19:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, yes, we should have. Yes. Okay, everybody, I'm not that.

• 20:05Adam Sosnick?

  Oh my, look at her, bro.

• 20:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Not that dark.

• 20:07Adam Sosnick?

  I'm Googling her husband as this happens. I have to find out who he is.

• 20:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Just a minute.

• 20:11Tom Ellsworth?

  She's buried in the backyard, bro.

• 20:13Adam Sosnick?

  There's no chance she's married.

• 20:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there.

• 20:16Tom Ellsworth?

  How much you want to bet she's not married?

• 20:17Adam Sosnick?

  She's married.

• 20:18Tom Ellsworth?

  The best part is-

• 20:18Adam Sosnick?

  She has a daughter.

• 20:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, does she? Is she still married? I'm gonna take a guess here.

• 20:23Adam Sosnick?

  He's hus- you think she let him divorce? Are you crazy?

• 20:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Can you fact check that?

• 20:27Adam Sosnick?

  I'm looking, I'm looking up.

• 20:28Tom Ellsworth?

  There's no chance some dude is staying married to her. I'm just guessing. I don't know. I could be wrong.

• 20:31Adam Sosnick?

  Hold up, she was, she was married to Matthew Matt Hoffman from 2003 until they divorced in 2013.

• 20:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, bingo. Nobody's dealing with that.

• 20:41Adam Sosnick?

  Wow.

• 20:42Patrick Bet-David?

  But listen, she went to Harvard.

• 20:43Adam Sosnick?

  Went to Yale.

• 20:44Patrick Bet-David?

  She went to Yale.

• 20:44Adam Sosnick?

  That's the problem.

• 20:45Patrick Bet-David?

  She, she has gone after a lot of big business people, okay? By the way, she is famous for going viral, for going after billionaires. So just so you know that, like, this isn't somebody, this isn't somebody that can't win. She could win.

• 21:00Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, she probably will.

• 21:00Patrick Bet-David?

  But Pierce Morgan put her in her place here when she was going up and arguing why Riley Gaines this. Rob, you just had the clip up. Riley Gaines this, Riley Gaines that, and then Pierce Morgan is like, what are you talking about? What did Riley Gaines say that you disagree with? What did Riley Gaines say that you have a problem with? And then she's like, Riley, this is a victory for Pierce Morgan on Bill Maher. Go ahead, Rob. ...to have a civil debate. Nobody, including Riley Gaines, who I disagree with strongly, should be, should be physically- What'd she disagree with out of interest? Um, I, I think that it should be up to sporting bodies to make the decisions about who and how should compete. What has she said that's actually wrong?

• 21:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I think that what she has done is tried to turn this, we talked about people, you know, becoming, using things to kind of get likes and get clicks. That's not what she's doing. It's not? I've got no truck for Riley Gaines personally, but all I've seen her do is stand up for women's rights to fairness and equality. But she has been- She actually competed against Leah Thomas, and it was obviously unfair. Leah Thomas won one of- ...the races in the NCAA championships by 50 seconds against a bunch of biological females who simply couldn't keep up. That cannot be right. It cannot be fair. That is something that I trust, I think our sporting bodies should be dealing with. And by the way, Riley is speaking up for herself, and that is her prerogative, and I respect her

• 22:24Patrick Bet-David?

  free speech. I think she's speaking up for pretty much every female athlete in the world. He put that Bill Maher audio clip.

• 22:32Speaker 07

  Title IX, Title IX in the early 70s was something that was, it was a major event in feminist.

• 22:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Ten years to get Title IX, ladies and gentlemen.

• 22:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what are the chances of Katie Porter actually winning and becoming the governor of California?

• 22:47Tom Ellsworth?

  If she's the Democratic nominee, because of the way that the registered voters are and what they appear to be showing, it's about 85%, 90% right now, because she's probably going to be the Democrat nominee. And then, from there, you just look at the voting. And by the way, I think it's close. I think, I think the Republican candidate crosses 40, which would be unusual. But I would say, what if you see like a 57, 41, 3, you know, because Green Libertarian? You see something like that, suddenly you realize that there's a shift. California, I, I got so many people I love up there and things that I love up there, and I remember what I love. I grew up at that, there's such history. And I'm

• 23:32Tom Ellsworth?

  just so disgusted by what has happened, and so is all the people that I, that I know and love. But I feel like, is it possible the pain hasn't gotten tough enough for Californians to finally look at the leadership and the brand of leadership? Look past the people. Look at the brand of leadership and look at what you're getting out of it and what's happening. Forget the people. Just say to yourself, are we better off than we were eight years ago? If not, why? Look at, look at policy. Look at things. Look at the economy. Look at the, look at the high-speed rail that you can't see because it's not there. Look at all that. Take people out of it. Don't those voters see enough in that to say, wow, maybe something else should be there? But if she's the Democrat nominee, I'm on record, 56, 56, 41, and...

• 24:20Adam Sosnick?

  Three.

• 24:21Speaker 01

  Many.

• 24:22Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I, I, I'm happy that you guys get to see, and, and again, Californians, like, for the love of God, please start paying attention, because these are the people that are gonna run your state and keep it running like a runaway train that's gonna go nowhere, okay? And this is another clip I want everybody to see, Pat. This is, it's 2022, I think she was on, it's MSNBC, right?

• 24:44Speaker 01

  Great temples.

• 24:45Adam Sosnick?

  She, great, amazing, like, she's so happy. Um, the fact, they're, they're comparing, uh, the interviewers comparing Biden inflation with abortion, and you're not gonna believe that. She goes, it's not comparing. She puts them together, basically saying, you know, because of groceries and anything are bad, we need to have abortions, because if you can't afford it, you could kill the baby. I'm not even joking, play, play that, this is what she's trying to say.

• 25:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, President Biden has said that inflation is the number one priority for the Biden White House to try to get under control right now. Uh, as you're out there in California talking to constituents, uh, during this reelection year for Congress, uh, how, how does inflation compare to this newly, uh, important, in the sense of the Supreme Court decision pending, uh, abortion issue? How do those two issues compare?

• 25:37Adam Sosnick?

  Watch, it's not compare.

• 25:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I don't think they compare. I think they actually reinforce each other. So, the fact that things like inflation can happen, and it can become more expensive to feed your kids and to fuel your car.

• 25:50Adam Sosnick?

  Having abortion.

• 25:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Um, is exactly why people need to be able to be in charge of how many mouths they're gonna have to feed.

• 25:56Adam Sosnick?

  Could you?

• 25:56Patrick Bet-David?

  So I think the fact that we're seeing this jump in expenses.

• 25:58Adam Sosnick?

  Am I taking crazy pills?

• 25:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Um, that we're seeing people having to pay more in the grocery store.

• 26:02Adam Sosnick?

  That's what she said.

• 26:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Pay more at the pump.

• 26:03Adam Sosnick?

  Could you, could you stop it? Guys, you understand that? She's saying, guys, listen, and this is by, by, during Biden, right? She's like, groceries are gonna be expensive, so I, if, if you're pregnant, that should be a reason for you to kill the baby in your stomach. And this is just, I wanna show where people, where leftist brains are at. Trump just won, uh, uh, the election, and, uh, 2024. Listen to what she says about her 12-year-old daughter and why she was crying. And who taught her this? Go ahead, Rob.

• 26:33Speaker 06

  On election night, I was with, I went to pick up my daughter from water polo practice, and she's 12, and she got in the car and she was crying. And I said, did someone punch you? Like, water polo's a rough sport.

• 26:43Adam Sosnick?

  Somebody hit you?

• 26:44Speaker 06

  I was like, did someone hit you? Did the coach yell at you? What happened? And she said... Mom, Trump won. Trump's gonna win. And what if I get raped and I need to have an abortion? This is from a 12-year-old, my 12-year-old daughter. And so it was really a reminder of how scary this time is for people.

• 27:02Adam Sosnick?

  So who is pumping your kid? Is that nuts? Who's teaching your kid that if I get, I, I, like, I want to be able to have abortion. My body, my choice. That is who this person-

• 27:14Tom Ellsworth?

  What are the odds of fabrication in that story?

• 27:17Adam Sosnick?

  No, zero, zero. She's telling the truth, meaning?

• 27:20Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no. He's saying, what are the chances she's lying? And that never happened?

• 27:24Tom Ellsworth?

  We don't know. We can't say-

• 27:25Patrick Bet-David?

  My speculation is 90%.

• 27:28Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm right there with you.

• 27:28Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, you're saying like she's lying?

• 27:30Patrick Bet-David?

  My speculation is she's using this.

• 27:31Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, got you.

• 27:31Patrick Bet-David?

  But you, by the way, you may say 90% is true. And it could have happened, but that's because of her.

• 27:36Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 27:36Patrick Bet-David?

  But either way, what 12-year-old kid says, if I get raped and I want to get an abortion? If a 12-year-old kid says that, it's the mom's fault.

• 27:45Adam Sosnick?

  100%.

• 27:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Period. If a 12-year-old kid says that. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 27:49Adam Sosnick?

  All right, so the future governor of California, Katie Porter. So they have the mayor of LA, Karen Bass. And she's potentially going to be the next Governor Karen. So we've all seen those viral videos of Karen just complaining and it's a Karen, it's a Karen, it's a Karen. This woman is the definition of a Karen. Just complaining, argumentative, just obnoxious, loud, and then playing the victim. That's what it comes down to. This is the modern Democrat Party, which is unfortunately, and I hope they can get out of this mess. You have a situation on Bill Maher, I believe, where a man named Pierce Morgan is defending a woman named Riley Gaines

• 28:28Adam Sosnick?

  against a female woman, I think, potential governor, who's defending a trans woman. This is the Democratic Party. A man is defending a woman who's basically saying, yeah, she doesn't want to compete against Leah Thomas men in the swimming pool. And the governor, potential governor of California is like, no, I stand with the trans woman. Like, we're in backwards world over here. They need to get back to doing what the Democratic Party used to be about. It has no clue what it is at this point. Cost of living, inflation. Rent, paying your bills, how much health insurance costs. Unfortunately, they're so focused on DEI and woke and trans stuff, they forget about the money.

• 29:09Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me ask you a question, Adam. Let's really try, just really, really quick. There's no hope, meaning they're not changing gears at all. They're doubling down, they are not stopping. By the way, I'm happy because that makes, that makes common sense, gonna stay in the White House and all the, you know, the house and the set and everything. Adam, what needs to happen for these people to understand you guys have to change the game plan? It's, you're not, literally, nothing is working, zero. And when I ask people, not you, I'm saying, I ask Democrats, what do you guys stand for? How many podcasts have we been on where we say, what do you stand for? What is the vision? Who are your leaders? It's nothing, bro. And what scares me is when, when, once they're realizing this and they're like, oh, we have nobody, we have nothing, you know what they resort to? Rioting in

• 29:54Patrick Bet-David?

  the streets, fighting in the streets, fighting eyes, fighting at like, an anti-fuck, because listen, there's nothing else. You see how angry people get when they have nothing to argue? She, you saw it, Tom. She lashed out, putting her hands, that body language, because you don't have an argument. And when you don't have an argument, you lead to violence.

• 30:10Tom Ellsworth?

  She's used to controlling the media. They're used to briefing with the media, the media is their lapdog, the media sets up the interview, and when, when somebody in the media has the temerity to actually conduct a regular thing, then it's there. I think we should play into the lunacy. They want abortion at 24 weeks, I want 900 weeks. 900 weeks would be 75 years old, and then I could go after Schumer.

• 30:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom's crazy.

• 30:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Play into the lunacy, play into it, play it out. Let's play it out. How long? How far do you want abortion? I want 900 weeks.

• 30:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 30:45Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what I want.

• 30:46Adam Sosnick?

  You asked, how can they reverse this? How can they change this?

• 30:51Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're, if you're in charge of the, if you're the leader, let's say it's Hillary, what do you tell them? Like, guys, we have to check, what do you do?

• 30:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Until they lose in California, they don't, they're not gonna change the message.

• 31:02Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly. So, the only way that they're gonna change is when they hit rock bottom. Because just like if it's an alcoholic, just like if somebody needs to go to rehab, it's like, buddy, we need to talk. We gotta check you into rehab.

• 31:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Aren't they there?

• 31:13Adam Sosnick?

  Well, there's a big difference between California and the rest of the country. California can still double down on the nonsense because as she said in the beginning part of the interview, she's like, I got 60%. This other 40% nonsense, I'm not even worried about. There's 40% Republicans. I got 60.

• 31:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And refuse to admit it.

• 31:29Adam Sosnick?

  She doesn't even have to like compromise, but in a general election or during midterms, or if you're in a swing state, you better wake up or you're going to be just doubling down on nonsense like this. So I wouldn't use California as sort of like a canary in the coal mine of what the Democratic Party is going to be. You gotta watch what they're going to do in sort of swing states.

• 31:49Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, she is the leading candidate. She's an elf. I just looked it up. She is the leading candidate.

• 31:54Adam Sosnick?

  Governor Karen.

• 31:55Patrick Bet-David?

  She's number one, okay? She's currently polling strongest in early surveys. Number two is Javier Baceres. He's the former US Secretary of Health and Human Services and former Attorney General of California, brings deep institutional experience and statewide profile. Rob, if you want to pull him up, Javier Baceres. I need to, who's a Republican that's going against him? Antonio Viegrosa. Okay. And then Tony Thurmond. And then you have Betty Lee. She was a former California Controller. She has announced a campaign. Okay. And Stephen Klubek, he's a businessman, founder of Diamond Resorts, less of a political veteran, but seen in the mix.

• 32:30Adam Sosnick?

  Is Rick Caruso running or Nicole Shanahan either?

• 32:32Patrick Bet-David?

  He most likely will be.

• 32:33Adam Sosnick?

  On the other side.

• 32:34Patrick Bet-David?

  He will be. Yeah, you've seen this face. He is, he's, he wrote a business book. I think they just, yeah, he just mailed his book to me. Yeah, yeah, Mateo, yeah, I just got his book. Can you pull up his book? Yeah, they just sent his book to my office. Yeah, right there. They just sent a book to my office. This guy's a money guy. He's made real money. And so he may be running on the left side. Rob, can you check who's running on the conservative side? Who will be running on the Republican side for California?

• 33:02Adam Sosnick?

  I feel like anyone who's running has to run as Democrat because once they have that R next to their name, it's like you lost. They don't even need to put the name there.

• 33:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 33:11Adam Sosnick?

  Like Larry Elder would have done such a more of an amazing job as Gavin Newsom, but because he had an R next to his name, they're like, you're racist. He's like, I'm black.

• 33:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Chad Bianco, Riverside County Sheriff, we know him, and Steve Hilton. I was talking to Steve, if you remember, at Turning Point USA, Front Row, a guy came in, we started, good looking guy.

• 33:32Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, big guy?

• 33:32Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no.

• 33:33Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 33:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. But we'll see. We'll see what's going. California, we will be praying for you, is what we'll do. We'll be praying for you, but remember, never leave the state.

• 33:42Adam Sosnick?

  Stay.

• 33:43Patrick Bet-David?

  You're under arrest. You cannot leave, folks. You have to stay. Adam, go ahead.

• 33:48Adam Sosnick?

  I'm just gonna make a quick confession. I'm not praying for California. I don't care. I live in Florida. I love Florida. I love Miami. I love Fort Lauderdale. This is where I'm at. The Armenian people are coming to take over Boca. California, best of luck. Good luck out there. I'm not praying for you. These guys may. Not me. Because they need to wake up.

• 34:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, it is what it is, man.

• 34:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Maybe the government shutdown with no air traffic control Burbank is a good thing.

• 34:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 34:12Tom Ellsworth?

  They can't escape.

• 34:13Patrick Bet-David?

  They can't escape. All right, let's go to the next one. Communities will not survive, okay? Insurance nightmares could empty small California towns. Listen, California, I know it feels like you woke up today, you're like, what the hell, first two stories? Give us a break. We have another California stories in a minute, so we're gonna give you guys some love.

• 34:35Adam Sosnick?

  At least they got the Dodgers winning, you know?

• 34:37Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. But you know what? They didn't win the way I wanted them to win.

• 34:39Adam Sosnick?

  Really?

• 34:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I wanted them to win. It was, there's better ways of winning.

• 34:44Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 34:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And, but you know what? I'm gonna accept the victory, but I wish it would have won in a different way. I just, I don't want to bring it up. I'm in a bad mood right now when it comes up to that.

• 34:52Adam Sosnick?

  At least good news is LeBron's out a couple of weeks.

• 34:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Congratulations to the Dodgers for advancing. We will celebrate for you. You have to realize. The number one team I root for is who? When they're in. Yankees, obviously. Number two team I root for is the Dodgers. Of course. I want them to win. They're from Brooklyn. Rooting for the Dodgers to win the World Series. All right, so next, let's see what we got here. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Uh, uh, uh, communities will not survive. Mount Shasta.

• 35:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Resident Donna Alt and her family are among the nearly 11% of Siskiyou County households on the California Fair Plan. A fire only insurance policy no homeowner wants to turn to. Living in the home her father built in 1965 and later passed on to her, Alt faces the looming threat of cancellation that could leave her family home uninsured and at risk. This is the reality for many residents and business owners living in California's rural, high fire risk areas where costly insurance rates are forcing homeowners who own their property outright to forego insurance altogether. Alt's problems with Fair Plan or insurance of last resort,

• 36:03Patrick Bet-David?

  as it's often called, began December 26, 2023, when she received a notice warning her to replace her roof and remove debris from the property, otherwise her policy would be suspended in 60 days. Despite not making any repairs or responding to the letter, Alt soon received a renewal notice. For the time being, she was safe. But then she received another letter in September 2024, stating that if they did not receive proof of a roof repair within 30 days, Alt would face a surcharge and cancellation of her dwelling, replacement coverage. This time, Alt appealed the notice, arguing there are no leaks, no reason for new roof. She waited for response from Fair Plan but received no correspondence.

• 36:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Her coverage continued, sans surcharge. Tom, thoughts on the story?

• 36:51Tom Ellsworth?

  So there's two angles here. Now, let's take the consumer angle. Consumers are facing this from insurance underwriters that are using drones to survey neighborhoods where there could be fire areas. Now, why are the insurance companies doing this more rapidly? How does the fire get to the neighborhood? Well, the fire gets to the neighborhood from the areas that surround it. Well, what's going on in the areas that surround it? California is not doing good forest management. So what happens, Vinny? Think about this. So California, think of it as a donut. You live in the hole. And around you, California doesn't do particularly good forestry management. The insurance companies that go to California, they get speak to them until they're blue in the face, saying, you know, "You need to trim your forest more because these wildfires,

• 37:33Tom Ellsworth?

  and we're the insurance companies, and we have to pay for it when bad things happen." And then California says, "F you. We've got the insurance commissioner here. You work for us. We don't work for you. Screw you." Basically, I'm translating the letter. Now, people live in the center of the donut hole. And so they use drones, and they go up there. And this is where the insurance companies are right. "Hey, Vinny, you have a 35-year-old wood cedar shake roof, which is very common in California, especially at Mount Shasta area, some older homes up there. We'd like you to change it to something that's either asphalt shingles or tile, whatever you want. You don't have to spend the most expensive stuff, but we'd like you to have a different roof on it. Because it's been 35 years, and your roof's at risk. Because, guess what?

• 38:17Tom Ellsworth?

  You're living in a fire zone where the state isn't taking as good a care of it. So we need to make sure against losses that we do this." So what happens is, then, people that are living in this on fixed income, maybe they don't have 25 grand or more for the roof. And they say, "Well, my roof's not leaking." Well, that's maybe true, but you're... You may not be... Insurable. So, the bad news for the people that live up there is California Forestry Management can mean you're in a fire zone, and so your insurance company's gonna be a little tougher on you about your house. However, the insurance company is right that as some of the people up in these areas, you do need to trim your own trees and your

• 39:02Tom Ellsworth?

  own areas on your own property. And guess what? The cost of owning a house is every now and then you gotta replace the water heater, every now and then you have to replace the pool pump, every now and then you have to work on the sprinklers. And it costs money to do these things, right? Yep. Well, guess what? Roof is very expensive, but it's on a house that you own, so I see that part of it in a small way, um, for the insurance companies. However, who's at the middle of this? It's California Insurance Commission managing on the insurance companies, and it's California having poor forestry management coming together, and then suddenly the only choice you have is to get this horrible insurance, the last resort, California Fair

• 39:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Plan, which doesn't cover you very well. So, this is a, just a three-sided pinch on consumers. However, you do have to take care of your house, and you do have to do maintenance, and over time, a roof may be expensive, but it's a prudent thing to do. So, it sucks, but who's at the center of it? California. And who's not really supporting the citizen in all of it? California.

• 40:07Adam Sosnick?

  That was a great break. Tom, I wanna test your knowledge real quick. You ready?

• 40:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Fill in the blank. Just have some fun. If I say, "The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire..." We don't need Newsom, burn the mother... Oh, okay. Yeah, way to go. I actually appreciate that. Was that the song? I'm trying to remember. Tom, you just got major cool points with me. Holy moly. Listen, Tom, we all know that we didn't start the fire. It was always burning since the world's been turning. That's all I know.

• 40:33Adam Sosnick?

  Well, actually, we do know who started the fire, though. Cause they arrested a 29-year-old guy.

• 40:38Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what I heard.

• 40:39Adam Sosnick?

  Named Jonathan Rinkerneck. He's responsible for starting the fires, and he killed 12 people. But, go ahead.

• 40:43Tom Ellsworth?

  No, keep going. So, they found the guy who did all the fires?

• 40:45Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. That's the guy. Look at, oh, and you'll never guess who he's a supporter of. Why they make him look like Jesus on the right and he looks like a maniac on the left? These artists are anyway. What's his story? What's his deal? Adam, he just hates people, I guess, and just loves fires. But I don't want to kick it off. Is he a pyromaniac? I'm trying to, I'm trying to understand who this guy is. There's a lot, there's a lot about him, but there's. And he did the Palisades fire? Which fire did this guy do? Started the Palisades fires. They killed 12, 12 people and, and destroyed, God knows how many. And how did he start the fire? He, with a, a match, a lighter. But anyway, he has mental disorders. But guys. Alright. Well, they caught him. That's.

• 41:22Tom Ellsworth?

  There was a guy running from the scene that they had camera film on.

• 41:24Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I remember that guy.

• 41:25Tom Ellsworth?

  People had cameras.

• 41:26Patrick Bet-David?

  You have an opinion on this story?

• 41:28Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I, no, again, you know where I stand about California.

• 41:31Adam Sosnick?

  Do you have an opinion on this one, Pat?

• 41:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's move on to the next story here on, uh, what's going on with this. I can't tell you, Tom. If, if, if, if homeowners get forced to only use FairPlan because they can't afford the other insurance, 7% of deals, real estate deals in California are not closing when people are trying to buy a house. Because the homeowner realizes how much the cost of insurance is going to be on the house. And they're like, dude, I can't afford this. That's how much it's going to cost? Yes. Forget it. We're out. So imagine you went all the way down. You looked at 20 homes. You went with the Realtor. You walked. You went and got a pre-approved letter. You got your loan approved by the bank. You went and did the appraisal. You went and did your escrow. You did everything up until then. You need a homeowner insurance policy. And then you get the homeowner insurance policy from different companies and you talk to your wife and say, babe, we can't afford it.

• 42:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Or worse, you buy a $4 million home. No one will give you insurance from the regular state farm.

• 42:20Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're living in a house without any insurance.

• 42:22Tom Ellsworth?

  And the FairPlan says it only covers 2.6.

• 42:24Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. So 1.4 million, you're out.

• 42:26Adam Sosnick?

  So, so, so Pat, let's say when you get your loan, you, you, you have insurance on the house. If you can't pay anymore, what happens to the bank and you, you just have a house with no insurance?

• 42:33Tom Ellsworth?

  If you've got a mortgage, the bank's going to say, you need to pay down this mortgage because I'm only going to give you a mortgage up to your level of insurance.

• 42:40Adam Sosnick?

  So, but what I'm saying is what if I'm in the house and we have?

• 42:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Imagine who this hurts. It hurts the Realtor.

• 42:44Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 42:45Patrick Bet-David?

  It hurts the Realtor. It hurts the homeowner.

• 42:47Adam Sosnick?

  Yup.

• 42:48Patrick Bet-David?

  It doesn't help, it doesn't, it doesn't hurt the, uh, the buyer gets hurt if they can't afford to buy a house of the price because the homeowner's insurance.

• 42:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Fewer choices now.

• 42:56Patrick Bet-David?

  It's, it's, it's a very, very messy. And by the way, insurance companies are leaving. They're like, screw this. It's not even worth it. I'm out. So why would I stay here? And more and more and more are going to be leaving the state. All of this happened under one guy as their governor. And that's Gavin Newsom. And by the way, California. I just looked up. Do you guys remember Mayor V. Grosso?

• 43:16Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 43:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember Mayor V. Grosso, Tom?

• 43:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, he's the big, big smile with the extra teeth.

• 43:21Patrick Bet-David?

  He was the mayor of LA. Don't look at the screen. Don't look at the screen. Just stay on that page, Rob. Whatever page you were on, I'm fine with. Tom, I said, "Don't look at the screen." He's looking at the screen. Question for you. How many Twitter followers do you think Mayor V. Grosso has? Katie Porter has a million, and another account with half a million. How many? He's been around for a while. Forty-five thousand.

• 43:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, it's either gonna surprise me big or small, because this guy, this guy was a media.

• 43:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Massive. Two-hundred-and-thirty thousand.

• 43:49Tom Ellsworth?

  He was a media whore.

• 43:50Patrick Bet-David?

  So what do you think it is?

• 43:51Adam Sosnick?

  Ten thousand.

• 43:52Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think it is?

• 43:53Adam Sosnick?

  Two-hundred thousand.

• 43:54Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think it is, Tom?

• 43:55Tom Ellsworth?

  I think he's probably got two-and-a-half, three million.

• 43:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Two-and-a-half, three million. Can you pull him up, Rob? That's his account.

• 44:02Tom Ellsworth?

  What the hell?

• 44:03Patrick Bet-David?

  That's his official account.

• 44:04Adam Sosnick?

  I win.

• 44:05Tom Ellsworth?

  This is crazy.

• 44:06Patrick Bet-David?

  He's got eight-hundred-and-nineteen. By the way, I looked multiple times to see if this is the account.

• 44:13Adam Sosnick?

  That's him?

• 44:14Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a proven problem solver.

• 44:15Tom Ellsworth?

  This guy.

• 44:15Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the account. He's only got eight-hundred-and-nineteen followers. Do you know what this means? That means most likely Katie's the governor of California.

• 44:24Tom Ellsworth?

  But do you remember this guy when we were in LA?

• 44:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, of course I do.

• 44:27Tom Ellsworth?

  This guy never met a camera he didn't like. He would hear a clicking sound, run into a synagogue, and throw a thumbs up during a bris. I mean, he was everywhere.

• 44:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 44:36Tom Ellsworth?

  If there was a camera clicking, there was, he was with this big smile.

• 44:40Patrick Bet-David?

  It means, it means most likely, most likely, she's winning. Good job, Kelly. California, let's go.

• 44:47Adam Sosnick?

  Do you think she'll be way worse than Gavin Newsom? Like, how much worse could it get under Newsom?

• 44:51Patrick Bet-David?

  You know why?

• 44:51Adam Sosnick?

  You think she'll do worse?

• 44:52Patrick Bet-David?

  You know why I think she'll be way worse?

• 44:53Adam Sosnick?

  Tell me.

• 44:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Because she's a woman. That's why I think she'll be way worse.

• 44:57Adam Sosnick?

  Whoa.

• 44:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Absolutely. A hundred percent.

• 45:00Adam Sosnick?

  Tell me why.

• 45:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Because, because no matter how much Gavin play, plays to women and all this other stuff, Gavin is a man. And Gavin is understand like a Gavin understands like when he sat down and talked to Charlie Kirk's like, "Yeah, we messed up." He'll admit to it. This is a female liberal leftist full on with all the LGBTQ, transgender kids. She is gonna go and go so far to the, I think she's gonna be worse than Gavin Newsom.

• 45:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 45:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Than Katie Porter.

• 45:39Tom Ellsworth?

  A prototypical angry middle-aged woman.

• 45:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, anyways, we'll see what's gonna, but we'd love.

• 45:43Tom Ellsworth?

  We love you ladies.

• 45:44Patrick Bet-David?

  We'd love to have her on the podcast. She would never, ever show up. They would want a list of every single question to send to her with a teleprompter to answer the questions. She'd be like, "Patrick, Patrick."

• 45:56Tom Ellsworth?

  But the invitation's out, right? We talked to everybody.

• 45:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you kidding me?

• 45:59Tom Ellsworth?

  The invitation's out.

• 46:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I would put money in. This is the, oh, there's only one podcast in the world that interviewed Netanyahu and Nick Fuentes within 30 days, and it's this podcast. There's only one podcast. One minute, I was funded by Mossad. The other minute, I'm funded by Qatar. It was awesome. The messages I was getting, right?

• 46:15Tom Ellsworth?

  So in other words, you're rich.

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• 47:14Adam Sosnick?

  Do you think this lady Katie Porter would be worse than Kamala Harris?

• 47:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I think so, because she's more competent than Kamala Harris. Like, she can actually get things done.

• 47:25Adam Sosnick?

  So you think Kamala would be worse?

• 47:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Kamala was an actor. No, no, no. She would be worse. Because she's a doer. Kamala's a talker.

• 47:31Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 47:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Kamala's a talker. She's a doer. She actually would pass things up. She would actually pass policies.

• 47:38Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 47:38Patrick Bet-David?

  She is truly a-

• 47:39Adam Sosnick?

  You're saying she's such a better politician that'll do a worse job for California?

• 47:42Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no. I don't think you understand what I'm saying. So I, I, I think if, if somebody right now offered her a job, $10 million a year, I don't think she takes the job. I li- I, I've met people like this.

• 47:51Adam Sosnick?

  Hmm.

• 47:52Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not about money. They're driven by controlling you.

• 47:55Adam Sosnick?

  Wow.

• 47:56Patrick Bet-David?

  They're driven by controlling and, and telling you what to do. They're not driven by freedom. They're driven by control. You can see it in her eyes.

• 48:05Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 48:05Patrick Bet-David?

  You can see in the way she does things. She's a true believer in her cause. Kamala's an actress. She's a real true believer. My opinion. Let me get to the next one here. Let's talk about Israel. All right, so Trump's Gaza peace plan wins unexpected praise from MSNBC panelists. Rob, can we first go through, uh, Trump says first phase of Gaza peace plan has been signed. Is that the one from MSNBC, Rob? Let me go to that one. And if you can pull up the clip, there's a clip of a bunch of people saying good things about him. Okay, here's Trump. Go ahead and play this, Rob.

• 48:36Speaker 02

  You said that you might go to the Middle East on Sunday. Do you mean Egypt and Israel? And would you consider going to Gaza to see what things are running? I would. I might do that. I may do that. We haven't decided exactly. I'll be going to Egypt most likely. That's where everybody is gathered right now. And we appreciate that very much. But I'll be making the rounds, as the expression goes. I probably will.

• 49:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let me, what was the point of this video, Rob?

• 49:04Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, that's Trump announcing that he is going to Egypt for the signing and then I also do have MSNBC as well.

• 49:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead and play the MSNBC one, where it's like they're giving him a lot of love.

• 49:13Tom Ellsworth?

  The deal that President Trump is announcing played a key part in negotiating is a significant change. This war was blocked for two years. President Biden, who preceded him, was unable to find a way to stop it. President Trump found that, found that way by being tough on, on both sides.

• 49:35Tom Ellsworth?

  You'll take a victory lap for sure over the next few days, but it's deserved. There's no way.

• 49:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back so I can read that tweet, please. You know, they really don't want to be able to say that. I'm very proud to announce that Israel and Hamas have both signed off on the first phase of the peace plan. This means that all of the hostages will be released very soon. And Israel will withdraw their troops to an agreed upon line as the first steps towards a strong, durable and everlasting peace. All parties will be treated fairly. This is a great day for the Arab and Muslim world, Israel, all surrounding nations and the United States of America. And we thank the median mediators from Qatar, Egypt and Turkey who worked with us to take, make this historic and unprecedented event happen. Blessed are the peacemakers, Donald J. Trump. And by the way, because of this, everybody on the left was saying how monumental this was.

• 50:26Patrick Bet-David?

  But they gave the Nobel Prize to Maria Corina Machado. So Adam, as you're hearing all these, everything that's going on with Israel and Gaza and what the peace plan President Trump just put together, what are you thinking?

• 50:37Adam Sosnick?

  Well, number one, Trump is calling the shots. Nobody else, it's not anyone else other than Trump. And nobody but Trump could go meet with literally the entire Middle East and Israel and goes, I'm running the show here. I need everybody on board. I don't know if you guys noticed this is about Trump. I don't know if anything's even been official yet. Trump is doing like supposition diplomacy. He's like, listen, guys, we're 90% there. I'm announcing that this deal is done. You guys do the remaining pieces. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like, there's nothing official. He's like, peace deal is done. Don't make me come over there and put you over my knee. Qatar, Israel, Turkey, Hamas. So the X factor in this equation is obviously Hamas.

• 51:21Adam Sosnick?

  All these other countries.

• 51:23Patrick Bet-David?

  X factor is Hamas?

• 51:24Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 51:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, tell me why.

• 51:25Adam Sosnick?

  Well, they're the only. Non-state actor. So Turkey, you know, he met with Erdogan. Qatar, he met with the Sultan of Qatar, whatever it is. Obviously, he's been meeting with Bibi. We understand what's going on there. Egypt. Egypt is there, Al Sisi. But Qatar is a linchpin. I'm sorry, Hamas is the linchpin. We can't control them. It's like saying, hey, we're gonna go negotiate ISIS in Iraq, or with Hezbollah in Lebanon, or Al Qaeda in Syria. Well, they're actually in Syria right now. Boko Haram, like, this is a full-on terrorist group. And, you know, I have friends who are Israelis. I have friends that are even Muslim and Arab. Israelis, I can tell you this, they are so done with war.

• 52:11Adam Sosnick?

  If you ask any Israeli, they want to be done with this frickin' war, and they want their hostages home. I think Hamas is not done with war. It's kind of their job. It's kind of their living. This is what they do. And then you have the Palestinians just sort of stuck in the middle of this entire charade here. And did you know that the first part of the peace deal, it's the hostage exchange? That's the number one thing. Just a little fun fact, there's 48 total hostages. 20 are alive, so 48 bodies, 20 are alive. Do you know how much they're swapping for? They're swapping hostages for, I think it's 1,700 prisoners.

• 52:55Adam Sosnick?

  And I think 250 of them are serving life sentences for bombing, for terrorists, for murder. Do you understand that is the equivalent of this? Hear me out. The bank robbers rob the bank. They hold the tellers and the customers hostage. And we're acting like, alright, guys, we'll let them go if we can go free. The bank robbers, they're the bad guys. So what's happening here is that Israel is willing to make a deal with the devil. And I mean that literally, because this has happened before. I've talked about this before. In 2006, there was a prisoner exchange, where they let a one IDF soldier was kidnapped.

• 53:40Adam Sosnick?

  His name was Gilad Shalit. If you want to understand how Israel rolls, and Hamas knows this. They exchanged him for not a hundred, for not 500, for over a thousand prisoners and 200 were serving life sentences, like murderers. And one of those guys, fast forward, ended up being a guy called Yahya Sinwar.

• 54:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Why would they do that?

• 54:02Adam Sosnick?

  Because that's how much they care about their people. That's literally it. They're saying, we want our guy back. This is why people go and serve in the IDF. Because they say, I have to do this for two years. I think men it's a little bit longer. They're saying, God forbid you are ever held hostage. We're going to get you. So understand the reason that they're holding out for these hostages. There's a track record here. A thousand prisoners and the guy that they let out 20 years ago. Hamas people? So they're willing to give back terrorists?

• 54:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back to the chat.

• 54:35Adam Sosnick?

  Yahya Sinwar was the mastermind of October 7.

• 54:39Patrick Bet-David?

  A ceasefire to effect October 10th. Under these terms, Israel has begun partial troop withdrawal from sectors of Gaza, pulling back behind an agreed deployment line. Hamas is to release 20 Israeli hostages within 72 hours. After which Israel will free 250 long-term Palestinian prisoners plus 1700 detained. Vinny, that's crazy.

• 54:59Adam Sosnick?

  That's what, because. You understand one thing? A hostage is a pawn of terror and a prisoner is a product of justice. It's not an even swap.

• 55:08Patrick Bet-David?

  So it's going to continue.

• 55:09Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, that's exactly, dude, I saw his face live change to, you're gonna, by the way, my heart, I pray for the, I pray for the hostages, like God knows that I pray for them, but you're gonna release 1700 people that guess what? Want to do the same thing that Hamas, like, let's say a good chunk of them are doing it.

• 55:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you ask why, what is their argument of why?

• 55:29Adam Sosnick?

  That's crazy. That's crazy. Because they're willing. I understand, but Adam, is it worth 20 people to release, if like in your eyes, more, more terrorists? Obviously, they, obviously they believe so. Have them come back? So it's short-term appeasement, let's end the war. There's a victory, you know, Bibi Netanyahu could say, congrats, we got our hostages home, but they know. That something's coming around the corner.

• 55:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but I.

• 55:51Adam Sosnick?

  This was in 2000, I think six was the Gilad Shalit

• 55:58Adam Sosnick?

  one to a thousand exchange. So now it's 18 years later and they're revisiting this again, not longer. And they're just basically saying, all right, when's the next time this is going to happen? And they're hoping, fingers crossed, that they can actually demilitarize Gaza, de-indoctrinate Gaza, and basically get a longstanding peace deal. But Hamas is still there, I mean, all that's are off the table.

• 56:21Patrick Bet-David?

  You just made my brain go, well, first of all.

• 56:23Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, welcome to the Middle East, buddy.

• 56:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna, I'm gonna go back a little bit.

• 56:26Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, welcome.

• 56:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And the fact that Donald Trump didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize, because you brought it up. Obama got it eight and a half months into his office, and guess what he did? Nothing, zero, okay? He, they said that what it was for, it was for extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between two peoples. Nothing happened, okay? The, the award was based on hope and symbolism, okay? And then, Adam, you made, you made a really good point. I do think, because a lot of people are like, oh, Trump is, Bibi's in control and I, have you ever, Donald Trump has been yelling at this guy. How many times has there been reports where he's yelling at him on the phone? He's yelling and saying, I don't know why you're being so effing negative. It's like, this is Trump.

• 57:06Patrick Bet-David?

  So I do think at the end of the day, Bibi's doing his thing, but Trump is like, just hurry the F up and make this happen, okay? But I do have a couple of questions, Adam, which I'm so happy that Pat brought it up. And I get it, you want your people back, but is it worth releasing of more, more terrorists in your eyes? And that, because what, do you just want to keep terrorists around? It doesn't make sense to me, that's number one. Number two, once Hamas gives over these 20 hostages, God willing, what happens to those Hamas? How many, how many Hamas are, are left right now? Is there, is there a number? What happens to those guys? Do they go, okay, here are your hostages, now can we just stay in these tunnels? That's number one. And then, number two, my question is, with all that's happening, all the peace, the war.

• 57:50Adam Sosnick?

  Ceasefire, stopping. What happens to the 2 million displaced Palestinians that have scattered and they're all over the place? Trump and everybody's talking about with Jared Kushner and the Middle East, building this like golf and high rises. Do those 2 million people get to come back to their, there's no homes? So is there gonna be a deal to say, hey, listen? We can't really find out where your house is because it's all gone, but are we gonna give them money? Like. You think Hamas? No, not Hamas. I'm talking about regular people. That's my point. I'm saying Hamas is gone. Hamas is still running Gaza. When they're gone. This is the existential question. Ready, Vinny? Yeah, go. You think Hamas cares about people? No, that's not my question. No, but I'm saying. No. Hamas doesn't care about these people. Well, I'm saying once Hamas.

• 58:33Adam Sosnick?

  They're pawns in a jihadi game. My question. That they're trying to eliminate Israel. They hate Israel. Okay. More than they love their own people. I get that, but here. No, no, just soak that in for a sec. I know, I'm soaking it. That's the challenge. No, but here's my question to you, Adam. You missed my point. Yeah. Hamas is dead. Let's say they kill all. No, but hear me out. Play along with me. They kill all of Hamas, okay? The 2 million Palestinians that have to leave, do they get to come back home? Because the plan is building this freaking epicenter of, you know, golf courses and high rises and freaking golf courses. Do they get, do these people get to come back? Part of the plan, if that's what you're asking, is that the Gazans can still live in Gaza. I hope so. Because they're like, all those people that left, you're hoping they get to come back. Where are they gonna come? They're gonna get to live in a high rise? Because their houses are all gone.

• 59:17Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, think about how long it's gonna take to reconstruct Gaza. Oh, forever. They're gonna be refugees forever, and this is exactly what Hamas wanted. I can't emphasize this enough. If Hamas wanted to stop this, they could have done a hostage exchange 2 years ago. If Qatar actually cared about any of this. But these are terrorists, Adam. You don't negotiate with terrorists. How many times? Thanks, Vinny. You're gonna kill, well then why do we wait 2 years? You knew that. Kill them! Okay, well. Sorry! Hold on there, I don't know how many times I have to say this.

• 59:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I, I wish it was as simple as you're making it, Vinny.

• 59:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have any thoughts on this?

• 59:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Not any deeper. I, I hear both angles going back and forth. That, you know, first of all, it is very good that there's progress being made to stopping the live fighting and the live fire. Step one. Step two, get everybody in their opposite corners. Step three, the UN, the US, and remember, who is the chair, or I don't know what the proper title is, but who is leading what will be the, um, Adam, what's it called? The Gaza Commission or the Gaza, you know, Relief Commission? DJT. And then Tony Blair is going to be part of it, but yesterday, some people said, ah, we don't think we like Tony. Tony Blair?

• 1:00:30Tom Ellsworth?

  We don't want Tony Blair to be on it. No, no, I think the, what's it, the Gazans or somebody said, I don't think we like Tony Blair. But point is, Trump has got the signature. So now we gotta go figure out what we do with these people. One step at a time, but first let's get this war to stop and let's get the hostages back. And yeah, we're, you know, I do agree with one thing. I hate like hell that all of these people, and the reason they have life sentences is because they were captured. And they were tried and they had done terrible, bad things and they got a life sentence. And I hate like hell that these people are going back, but I love that it's a symbol that says that we value life. And here it comes. And here come all the comments saying, well, Israel doesn't value life. That's just an equivocation.

• 1:01:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, go ahead and say it. The fact is hostages are coming home, which is a good thing. The war is stopping, Pat, but there's a lot of work to do and let's not hand wave over the 2 million Gazans or the peaceful Palestinians that are looking for a place to live and a place to be. Let's not forget all of those people there, but man, there are bad blueberries in that muffin and we gotta take care of that.

• 1:01:34Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, what do you think?

• 1:01:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know. I, I, to me, um, I used to have a guy that would always make temporary fixes. And finally I told him, I said, "You know what's the difference between you and the other guys?" He says, "What?" I said, "They make permanent changes, you make temporary changes." "How is this permanent?" So when the revolution happened with Iran, and Jimmy Carter was campaigning on human rights, that was his main thing. He was a human rights leader, right? And he forced two countries to release political prisoners. One of them was Mohamed Reza Shah Pahlavi. The other one was Cuba, okay? So Cuba finally is like, "This guy's such an idiot.

• 1:02:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's send them 125,000 prisoners, criminals, send them to Miami."

• 1:02:28Tom Ellsworth?

  The Mario boat left.

• 1:02:29Patrick Bet-David?

  They sent them to Miami, Miami's unemployment rate goes up to 50% a year later, give or take. There is no gas. You literally, there is no gas, like there's an issue in Miami. And all of a sudden, you see the movie, Scarface comes out. Dude, that is prompted by what Jimmy Carter did, right? So, and then in Iran, he forces the Shah to release 3,000 political prisoners. Many of those guys that were in there ended up becoming leaders of, you know, Osama bin Laden, all these other guys. I don't, this is a continuation of that. Now, you know, it will tell you, when you see this, that, you know,

• 1:03:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Megyn Kelly just tweeted something, Rob, if you can quote Megyn Kelly, she called that CNN. And it's so funny how quickly, you know, you hear these things, that even Megyn Kelly, Megyn Kelly's very fair where she's at. She'll call out Israel, she'll call out this, she'll call out that, zoom in right there, look what she said. Check out the take, first paragraph, on how the war started. "Great job CNN, go a little bit lower. See how two years of war loss and heartbreak has changed these Gaza Palestinians." Now look at the first sentence, go a little lower. It's been two years since Israel launched its war in Gaza. And life in the enclave has never been harder. They don't talk about what happened the other way around. So this is continuing, this, this, this division between the two is gonna go for a while.

• 1:03:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And making somebody that's extremely fair. Where she'll go criticize both sides, so it's not like she is a one-sided person. But to me, when I'm seeing this, I, I'm, um, for Israel to give up 250 plus another, what was it, 1700?

• 1:04:14Adam Sosnick?

  1700.

• 1:04:15Patrick Bet-David?

  1700. For 20 people, for 20 people?

• 1:04:18Adam Sosnick?

  This, yeah.

• 1:04:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I, listen, culturally, you know, you, you meet certain people with certain cultures and you see what they value and what they don't value. Say what you say, man, they're telling you what they value here. You know, again, I went back and watched Charlie Kirk's interview. The first one that we did, that, that happened right after October 7th, I think it was October 10th or 12th podcast. And he explains, he says, either when this took place, they did not expect it to be that bad. Okay, where, hey, let's go back and get the, if they knew. It's not gonna take, be that back of a, bad of a thing, ended up being ugly, obviously, to what it is today. But for you to give up all of that, it's like when Biden gave up, uh, uh, that, uh, who is the broker of a?

• 1:05:04Adam Sosnick?

  Was it Merchant of Death?

• 1:05:05Patrick Bet-David?

  The Merchant of Death, for who?

• 1:05:07Adam Sosnick?

  For Brittany Griner.

• 1:05:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Brittany Griner.

• 1:05:09Adam Sosnick?

  Who hated some American.

• 1:05:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So that tells you the priority for Obama, for Biden.

• 1:05:14Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Biden would rather have a ba, female ba, WNBA ba, by the way, yesterday I was watching a video about uh, seventh graders and eighth graders playing WNBA players and they destroyed them.

• 1:05:26Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. Oh, really?

• 1:05:27Patrick Bet-David?

  They destroyed them, it's not even funny what it was like, it was embarrassing. Rob, can you go to Obama's tweet, please? Here's what Obama had to say. If you just go to my Twitter account, I just retweeted what he had to say.

• 1:05:37Adam Sosnick?

  Right.

• 1:05:37Patrick Bet-David?

  It's so embarrassing what he says, go to his, uh?

• 1:05:39Adam Sosnick?

  Doesn't even mention Trump by name, I believe, right?

• 1:05:42Patrick Bet-David?

  If you just go to, um,

• 1:05:43Adam Sosnick?

  Some guy who's went over to the Middle East.

• 1:05:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this, watch this here.

• 1:05:47Adam Sosnick?

  Anybody got a pack of Salem's?

• 1:05:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you put show like what he says? After two years of unimaginable loss and suffering for Israeli families and people of Gaza, we should be encouraged and relieved that an end to the conflict is within sight. That those hostages still being held will be reunited with their families and that vital aid can be inside Gaza who is already shattered. More than that, though, it now falls on Israelis and Palestinians with the support of US and the entire world community to begin the hard task of rebuilding Gaza and commit to process by recognizing. Any, any name of Trump there? Any name of current administration? Any shout out to the guy that came after you?

• 1:06:19Adam Sosnick?

  Or just say the US brokered it.

• 1:06:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, anything you can say that's somewhat good. Three basic questions for you, sir. Who brokered this deal? Who became the peacemaker? Any chance you'll give him credit?

• 1:06:30Adam Sosnick?

  Never.

• 1:06:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Why not? Don't forget the mic drop when he made fun of Trump or that one dinner that he said you'll never be president. Trump is sitting there just listening to him. You think they're still keeping that part in place? But Obama has an opportunity here to be a peacemaker and to kind of give credit, cannot do it. He can't do that part, right? But having said that, respect to the president, respect to what he's doing. This started under Biden, let's not forget.

• 1:06:55Adam Sosnick?

  That's true.

• 1:06:56Patrick Bet-David?

  This started under Biden and the peace happened under Trump.

• 1:06:59Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, can I just give you some stats real quick? By the way, I mean, Robbie, pull this up. By the way, you said, you know, trading Brittany Griner for Dr. Death, I believe. Merchant of Death. Or the Merchant of Death. It's Brittany Griner, in this case, for a thousand Merchant of Deaths. Do you understand what I'm saying?

• 1:07:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:15Adam Sosnick?

  Like, it's not like a one for one. Yeah. So, this is, I'm gonna give an ode to the biz doc, Words Talk Numbers Scream. I'm gonna explain why the long-term lasting peace is gonna be very difficult with Israel and Gaza and what's going on. And as I always say, follow the money. So, remember the conversation that I had with Bassem Youssef? I said, you know, there'll be peace when certain Muslim countries prioritize GDP rather than GDT, right? There's a big difference between Gulf countries and the other Arab countries that are surrounding Israel. So here you see what the GDP is per capita in different countries. So I'm just gonna go real fast. Saudi Arabia is almost 33,000. Iran, $5,000 a year.

• 1:07:59Adam Sosnick?

  Yemen, $465. Egypt, $3,500. That's Israel's neighbor. What is Israel's GDP per capita? I think there's a list right there, Rob, if you can show that.

• 1:08:12Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, this is the GDP per capita. So I go with me on this. You see Qatar is number one. They're the big, rich oil country. Qatar, they're giving everybody the money. We understand that. We have Israel and the UAE and then Saudi. And if you go all the way down the list, you'll see there's other countries. These are Israel's neighbors that are very, very poor. Egypt is next door. Jordan's next door. We see what's going on in Iran. Now, you might say, all right, how long has this been going on? Rob, there's three more graphs here. I want you to understand this is the challenge that they're gonna have. Here's 1979, Pat. This is during the revolution that was in 79, right? So what was the richest country in the Middle East at that point? GDP per capita? It was the UAE. Then you have Qatar, then you have Kuwait, you have Saudi. Israel is sort of in the bottom of the bunch with the rest of them. Okay, now let's fast

• 1:08:56Adam Sosnick?

  forward. This is the impressive thing about Israel. And this is why so many people that are Israel's neighbors just genuinely hate them is because they're hating on them. Within 20 years, 30 years, now UAE is still number one, Qatar's number two. Look where Israel is. Now, here's what I want you to pay attention to. Look at the bottom of the list. You have Yemen, you have Syria, now you have Palestine that shows up, Egypt, Jordan, Iran, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor countries, while the Gulf countries are rich. Now, fast forward to the most current thing. You still see Qatar there, you still see Israel there, you still see UAE there. Now, look at the bottom of the list. Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Yemen. The Middle East will not

• 1:09:38Adam Sosnick?

  change until these countries have something worth living for. They're poor, they're desolate, they read one book called the Quran. And if you're a 22-year-old guy in Lebanon, or in Palestine, or in any of these countries, or in Iran, and there's indoctrination going on, what are you supposed to do? There's unemployment is all time, is all time records. You don't have a job, there's nothing for you to do, you have no money. So Hamas shows up, Hezbollah shows up, ISIS shows up and says, let me give you some purpose. You notice that those people do not exist in Qatar. They don't exist in UAE. Follow the money. And you'll understand,

• 1:10:21Adam Sosnick?

  until those countries actually have something worth living for financially, they're always gonna sort of be a race to the bottom. You know, they say there's two ways to have the tallest building. You can either build a tall building, or try to blow up the person's building right there. And that is that right there. Last point, you know, we talk about the misery index and happiness. Here's a, here's a map.

• 1:10:42Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta get to the next story, buddy. Like, what's the last thing you want to say?

• 1:10:45Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I just want to show you how happy people are in the Middle East.

• 1:10:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:49Adam Sosnick?

  If you can just see that happiness map. This is also a challenge. Like, you want to get to the bottom line here. I'm showing you the, the actual reasons why there's never going to be peace in the Middle East. Israel apparently is the happiest country in the Middle East. Afghanistan is the most miserable country in the world.

• 1:11:07Adam Sosnick?

  In the world. Here's the, Rob, can you punch in? Here's the craziest part. Palestine, 4.8. Israel's the highest at 7.2. Afghanistan is the lowest at 1. something. There's countries that are lower than Palestine. Jordan is less happy than Palestine. Lebanon is less happy than Palestine. They're miserable people who want a better life. Yemen is desolate. So until these countries figure out how to make money, have an economy, and can be happy, there's never going to be peace.

• 1:11:41Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, remember when you were younger and about who you befriended? Whoever had nothing to lose, parents were afraid of you befriending that kid. And whoever had a lot to lose, you always knew that kid would make different types of decisions, generally. Even as adults, when you do business, but you're hanging out on the weekend with somebody. And one of your friends is like, "Yeah, let's just go break in." Like, "I got a job, I got a house, I got this." "No, bro, you guys go ahead. I'm not doing this." "Let's just go on with some..." "Nope." So there, there is a big point about, you know, making sure the more people have things to live for, the better the decisions they make. The less people have things to live for, the worse decisions they make.

• 1:12:26Patrick Bet-David?

  You, you want people to have a certain level of community, ownership, you know, that they, they have something that's theirs, they have something that they're building. And unfortunately, some of these places, you just don't have that. You just don't have that. All right, let's get to the next story here. Next story, but, but, next one I want to get to is Eric Trump and Cuomo. So Eric Trump is on Cuomo's show. And Cuomo asks a question from Eric Trump. And Eric Trump just goes, "Lights out." So I'll let you watch this for yourself. Go ahead. Do you think that it is fair to say, it looks like the administration is going after its political opponents now and doing exactly what you say you oppose?

• 1:13:07Speaker 06

  That's that what Comey because I mean it seemed very clear to me in in the congressional testimony I don't know just watching it I I certainly seem like he lied to me and I'm also wondering what an FBI director is doing taking memos from the FBI and leaking them to the New York Times I mean Chris I'd be I I'm a guy that hopes that the FBI director would be keeping planes from flying into buildings you know keeping our country safe keeping the western way of life safe instead this guy is you know communicating every single day with with the New York Times I mean I'd hope a lot better but I I find it so ironic that you're literally one that's pushing back on the weaponization of government when the very same people that were coming after us you know went after your brother you know like hounds I mean they they did everything they could to destroy his governorship they did everything they could to destroy his life they did everything they could to

• 1:13:52Speaker 06

  destroy you I sat in that same seat the only difference is my last name wasn't Cuomo my last name was Trump they were trying to destroy my father and by doing that they were trying to destroy me and they were trying to destroy the Trump Organization they were trying to take all our assets and strip our name off of every building in New York City you've been on the receiving end of the very same people that I've been on the receiving end of and so to play coy with me as if this isn't happening in the United States of America just seems ironic and and foolish given what you've been through more so than anybody

• 1:14:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Hold on a second what did you just say that you think I'm doing I'm asking you questions about whether or not if something is wrong is also wrong to do the same thing when you get back in power which certainly happened the first time the administration came in you went right after Biden and I don't mean you you weren't part of the administration I'll get to you in a second in terms of what's going on right now but if you think I'm playing coy you don't know me as well as you should I'm not playing coy I know what happened to me Eric I'm saying that what is happening now looks like what was done to you that's why I'm asking the question

• 1:14:55Speaker 06

  Hey did we raid Biden's home you know did we did we try and bankrupt Biden did they come after us did we weaponize every AG and DA you know against Biden do we do that against Hunter Biden who had a laptop from hell pictures of cocaine illicit drug use prostitution you know did we did we do that did we make up a dirty dossier about Biden did they try and destroy Biden's marriage you know was any of that true? I mean, did we make up stories that Biden had secret servers in the basement of his home communicating with the Kremlin and Russia? You know, did we strip Biden off the ballot of multiple states? Did we take Biden off of Twitter and Instagram and Facebook?

• 1:15:36Speaker 06

  And try and silence his voice so he couldn't communicate? Did we put Biden in a courtroom every single day? 91 felony counts that have all been overturned for my father now, right? For nonsense to try and keep him off of the campaign trail and to try and destroy his life? You know, did we do any of that?

• 1:15:54Adam Sosnick?

  That was an incredible breakdown by Eric Trump. You gotta give him shit up for that. Thank you, Eric. Eric just literally, not like he planned it because that's where he went. Just systematically went down. There is zero comparison. There's zero comparison of what Trump, our attitude is, he's not going after more. I want more. There's a, bro, there's a list with Brennan, with all of them, with Obama, all the Hillary, all the spying. He's not even doing a fraction of what he should because it's legally. She, what's Tisha James, Pat? What's she in trouble for? For mortgage fraud? And Comey lied to Congress on top of everything else. Okay?

• 1:16:35Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, I think what Chris, what Chris was trying to do, but Eric just completely put him exactly where he needed to put him and broke it down. Never in the history of this country has, has, has a party done that much or tried to do that much to one freaking person, to his entire family, to destroy him, and he still came out and he still won. So what he's trying to get at is absolutely ridiculous. He's like, because what Chris is trying to make the point is, well, you guys are going after your political opponents. No, no, no. He's going after the people that broke the law, period. What they, they tried to twist the law to go after Trump. He's going after. These two for for a good reason. I think Jack Smith is next.

• 1:17:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I think if you're Chris, it's kind of fair to ask the question. You said, what do you say to people that say that you're, or I don't want to misquote Chris, but I think it was, what do you say? People say you're doing the same thing that they did to you?

• 1:17:24Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:24Tom Ellsworth?

  And so Chris can ask that, but I think Eric answered it very, very well. And it was, I'll tell you what you tell them. All of our stuff has been overturned and Comey broke the law and Letitia James broke the law. They may, Letitia James mortgage fraud on a one to 10, you may say that's a four. And what Comey did, weaponizing the, the, the Justice Department is an eight. You know, you could scale it like that. But the fact is, Chris, Eric answered it. This is what I say to them. All of our stuff's been overturned and these people broke the law. Now they're in court. Welcome to America.

• 1:18:00Adam Sosnick?

  Yup. I mean, this is the difference between MAGA 1.0 and MAGA 2.0. There's like Eric Trump, let's just use him as an example. And you can extrapolate how much more equipped Trump is to do the job.

• 1:18:12Adam Sosnick?

  Per Eric Trump's words, when they got in the office in 2017, he was like a deer in headlights. They've never been in the White, they've never been in politics. They don't know what's going on. They don't know who their allies are. They don't know enemies. They don't see this coming. They think the FBI is on their side. They think, they don't know. Now he's like, bing, ding, bing, bing, bing. How much more capable, informed, politically savvy is Eric Trump at this point? And when we were on the podcast with him, it was, it was, we were, we weren't like challenging him. It was a friendly conversation. Pat asked some tough questions. We had some, we wouldn't push him like Cuomo did. Wow, that defense that he gave about his father right there. The family too. Respect to you. I mean, you came all the way.

• 1:18:48Patrick Bet-David?

  How, let me ask you a question. How is Chris looking at Eric? How does Chris look at Eric? So I have an idea of how Chris looks at Eric. How competitive you think Chris is?

• 1:18:58Adam Sosnick?

  Very. This is a pretty competitive guy.

• 1:19:00Patrick Bet-David?

  How competitive you think?

• 1:19:01Adam Sosnick?

  Very damn competitive.

• 1:19:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Zero to 10, what would you put him?

• 1:19:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Chris is like a nine.

• 1:19:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, how competitive you think Eric is?

• 1:19:07Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, Eric's up there big time. Eric's a competitive guy. Eric doesn't play games either.

• 1:19:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. I think they're both psycho competitors. Okay. I really believe that, that they're both psycho competitors. Chris looks at Eric, in my opinion, as a younger version of him.

• 1:19:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Because the father Mario Cuomo, then Andrew Cuomo, then Chris Cuomo, right? Chris Cuomo is either Don Jr. Or, and, or, you know, Eric, uh, uh,

• 1:19:40Adam Sosnick?

  No, Chris would be like Eric, he's the younger brother.

• 1:19:42Patrick Bet-David?

  But, Chris looks at them as, hey, I'm senior to you. I've been going through this for a while. My father, I grew up as a kid watching my dad, when they would call him Italian, this Italian, that, and he went to, he remembers that, right? I'm kinda wondering how much of that Chris is sizing up Eric? And seeing where he's at, because he's right, when he went after Andrew, he didn't say anything about it. Cause they did, they went after his brother. Okay, they targeted his brother in a hardcore way, some of it well deserved, some of it was, they couldn't control him. You know, when, when Schumer and Nancy couldn't control him, they're like, hey, get rid of this guy. We don't like this guy, he doesn't do what we tell him to do.

• 1:20:19Tom Ellsworth?

  And part of that, they played really dirty.

• 1:20:21Patrick Bet-David?

  You, by the way, you probably just saw the two families, the biggest political families talking to each other. Name me a family bigger than the Cuomo and the Trumps, give me a family. That's a multi-generational political, political. Yeah, maybe the Bushes.

• 1:20:35Adam Sosnick?

  Not as relevant now, though, you're right.

• 1:20:36Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but I would, I would actually put, I would definitely put Bushes as number one over Trump.

• 1:20:41Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:20:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Because no one's yet done anything outside of Don, right? At least Bushes, you had Prescott, Senator Prescott, George Bush Senior, then George W. Bush, then Jeb became a governor, so they, they have a rich, but this is the top three families, politically, that just went at it, and I actually like that exchange, I like that exchange between the two of them.

• 1:21:03Adam Sosnick?

  Though, you'll see more of that, by the way, is Gavin Newsom and Nancy Pelosi related?

• 1:21:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:21:08Adam Sosnick?

  They're related?

• 1:21:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:10Adam Sosnick?

  So that's a family, right?

• 1:21:11Patrick Bet-David?

  But it's not the related like this, I think it's like a,

• 1:21:14Adam Sosnick?

  The Pelosi's, you know what I mean? How are they related?

• 1:21:16Patrick Bet-David?

  He's connected to Pelosi through a past marriage, it's not the way you think, it's not, they're not blood relatives, it's slightly different.

• 1:21:21Adam Sosnick?

  Chris has to understand too, he's talking to a potential, potential future president as well. And that's another thing, cause Chris Cuomo, as much as you wanna say, he does not like Trump. I don't care, all these little moments of like the Bill Mars and the Stephen A. Smith, let's not forget, there attitude towards Trump because he was the worst thing in the history now they're all kind of coming back over there he's sitting with the guy that was wearing the Trump 2028 hat that's not accidental you know what I'm saying so

• 1:21:48Tom Ellsworth?

  I think there's another thing too remember they also went after Chris and they went after Chris indirectly

• 1:21:53Adam Sosnick?

  during Biden right it's all during Biden FYI

• 1:21:56Tom Ellsworth?

  and in my opinion in my opinion and I don't want to get you know get letters from people from Atlanta with 22 names at the top of the letter but in my opinion they went after Chris and they screwed Chris was there things going on is there things that Chris should have done differently I can't judge I'm not the judge of that but I will say this the system went after him and he ultimately you know left CNN and in my view they kind of screwed with him and here he is now whereas they screwed with Eric and he managed to fight all of it off

• 1:22:29Patrick Bet-David?

  that that is a very fair assessment Tom that is a very fair assessment like they couldn't destroy Eric but they almost did to Chris and then Chris made a comeback I think his show is getting more and more viewership it's doing better I think he's at 175,000 viewers now it's not a big number it's not at the number that you know you want to be but you know he he almost went from being irrelevant and destroyed till he's made a resurgence and I think you got to give him credit for that

• 1:23:00Tom Ellsworth?

  and he gave one of the most strongest cases against the uniparty when he spoke from the floor of the convention about how corrupt politics is

• 1:23:09Patrick Bet-David?

  we'll see what's gonna happen there we'll see what's gonna go to the next one here let's go to the next one here alright next story I want to get to is I don't feel safe anymore not me folks this is a story Dearborn's Arab Americans on rising Islamophobia Rob if you want to pull this up on how they're feeling about what's happening in some places like Dearborn I think this is on page 13 Rob if you have a video I don't think you have a video on it no you don't okay So, uh, uh, Ameera Shaheeran recalls it being a regular fall afternoon, October 2024. The Yemeni American who had been living in Dearborn in Detroit area for four years, was preparing dinner while her mother took Ameera's seven-year-old daughter, Saida, to a nearby playground to play with her friends.

• 1:23:54Patrick Bet-David?

  But when the door of the home slammed open a little after 3pm, everything changed. Saida rushed in, holding a napkin against her neck. When Ameida moved it away, she saw a long, deep cut across her daughter's neck. A man had approached her on the playground, grabbed her head and slit her throat. What? With a knife. My mind flipped. I didn't know where I was. And because my son was screaming, "Don't die, don't die." I didn't even know how to dial 911. Accused 73-year-old Gary Lansky, who lives near the park, was caught shortly afterwards and in January was found competent in certain charge of assault with intent to murder and other charges for a mom to see her daughter's throat open. It was sad, uh, was terrifying, says Ameera. He's, he's a 73-year-old.

• 1:24:38Patrick Bet-David?

  How could he do that to a little child? Saida received 20 stitches and is scared mentally and physically. Most of her nights are still filled with nightmares. So Tom, this story is about the levels of crime that is happening in Dearborn? Is that what she's talking about?

• 1:24:56Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, specifically the Islamophobic attacks that are occurring in the area.

• 1:25:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Which means what, Rob? Like they're attacking?

• 1:25:02Adam Sosnick?

  They're attacking people, uh, Muslims specifically for, uh, their faith in Dearborn.

• 1:25:09Patrick Bet-David?

  How much, how much, what are the numbers that you see with that? So let's see that one right there, Rob. The Islamophobic, that, that paragraph you had, uh, attacks across US have risen presently in two years since Hamas's attack on Israel, which killed a ton and the soon destruction of Israel and Gaza, more than 67,000 people. Last year, Council of Americans, Islamic recorded 8,658 complaints. Report of antisemitism have also searched in recent, the report released on Sunday, found that more than half of American Jews say that they have faced antisemitism, perhaps here, they does, uh, difficult. So wait, are they saying that they're being targeted?

• 1:25:42Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, like, like, like, that's, that's the point I'm trying to figure out is, so is this lady saying that her kid was stabbed in the neck by this guy? Because he wanted to go after them because they were Muslim? Like, how, how do you even, did he scream something like? Go back to your country.

• 1:25:55Tom Ellsworth?

  So first of all, it is horrible. Go ahead, Rob. Down a little bit further, it starts to point out, last month, a mosque in a neighboring Dearborn Heights neighborhood received a call from a Texas man threatening to burn down Dearborn and its mosques. On September 23rd, a Virginia man was arraigned in court on terrorism charges for threatening on YouTube to attack a mosque in Dearborn. And then there was an incident in August in which a man was arrested for writing on social media that he wanted to see marchers at a Muslim religious event taking place in Dearborn be shot. So they're saying they're no longer feeling safe in Dearborn because of instances like this. There's two sides to this. The first side is very, very clear. This little girl, regardless of her background.

• 1:26:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Denomination, yeah. Nobody cares. Nobody wants to see that happen.

• 1:26:42Tom Ellsworth?

  No, this is horrible. But the, and let's set that there. Now then, was it pure Islamo- was it an older gentleman who didn't like Arabs or Muslims, assumed she was Muslim, and then went to do this? If that's what happens, then that guy goes to prison.

• 1:27:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, what's the investigation say about this? Do you have, do you have data on?

• 1:27:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm taking a look right now. And to Gary Lansky, he's a 73-year-old suspect. I didn't see a conclusive thing that he had confessed or anything was sorted out.

• 1:27:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Why would Guardian write an article like this? Would I, like, if there is, let's know about it. So was charged with self-intentional murder and some other connection to alleged knife on a 7-year-old? Why, though?

• 1:27:23Tom Ellsworth?

  But if it was a hate crime, there would be hate crime charges if they were targeting them specifically due to their religion.

• 1:27:28Adam Sosnick?

  It sounds like, Rob, like they're assuming because they're of the Muslim faith. I don't know, was she wearing a hijab and stuff like that? Like, like, yeah, that's a, that's a weak story.

• 1:27:38Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, CARE, C-A-I-R, you can go look them up. They have been allegedly manipulating statistics about problems happening in their community. And there have been news outlets that have said, hey, are we sure these numbers are right? These are all allegations against each other, but you can't just take, in this case, don't take CARE's word for it. Oh, there's been 8,678, you know, Islamophobia threats against people. Hang on, hang on. You gotta, you gotta be careful with that.

• 1:28:07Adam Sosnick?

  You see that, you see, so he was not officially charged, Gary Lansky, and then look at the second sentence. The victim's family, community groups, civil rights organizations have called for hate crime charges, arguing the attack might, might have been motivated. How about just crazy? Maybe the guy was just crazy to go stab a freaking child. There's something wrong with you. I love, I'd see that, that's, that's a weak, that's weak reporting. Might have been. That's like, like.

• 1:28:31Tom Ellsworth?

  And the Guardian found three instances widely spaced. They are desperately trying to paint America as just laying in the weeds, ready to attack poor little Dearborn. And they're not even talking about, you can go look up Dearborn and go look up radical clerics. And clerics are saying horrible things and they're all turning a eye the other way. And the police for two weeks had Muslim, um, a language on the badge for the police. They since pulled that off, as I understand it. But come on, guys. Yeah, this is, this is, and I'm speaking to the Guardian. This is so one-sided here.

• 1:29:09Adam Sosnick?

  None of this makes sense. I'll, I'll give you a quick breakdown. This whole story, this, whoever wrote this article with the Guardian deserves Donald Trump to just show and be like, you're fired. You're fake news. This whole story doesn't add up. You're telling me this. Uh, some old white guy shows up in a Muslim majority city, Dearborn, and just is going out to do hate crimes because he's Islamophobic. How about just the very basics? Some old weird scumbag came in and tried to kidnap a kid or cut the kid's throat.

• 1:29:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Maybe a crazy pedo.

• 1:29:40Adam Sosnick?

  Whatever it is. This is the equivalent of saying, yeah, you know, uh, Compton, you know, it's mostly black. Yeah, white racists are rolling up on Compton and trying to eliminate kids. That doesn't happen. White racists are rolling into Dearborn and in a Muslim area, trying to threaten people. That's just not a thing. It's like, you ever see the Dave Chappelle skit? When he reenacted the Jussie Smollett, uh, detective, asking, he's like, all right, so, uh, what do we got here? So, uh, you went for a walk at, uh, 4 a.m. February, it's minus 10 degrees, got it? Yeah. Cause you're hungry, got it? A lot of snow, white snow. That was white snow.

• 1:30:24Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, and then you got, so two guys approached you with MAGA hats in Chicago at four in the morning. Yeah, this whole story doesn't add up and it turned out to be a farce. Sometimes stories are just clickbaity headlines with no substance and they're trying to tie, what, Islamophobia to this guy, whatever he did? Now, I'm not, I'm not denying that Islamophobia exists, anti Semitic exists. This seems like completely. No, but you know what? Clickbait from the Guardian? Yeah, but you know, do you know what the actual attitude from people that live in Dearborn and stuff are? Rob, is this the one where they're saying, America must fall? Is this the clip? Have these, remember this one? The guy, just for people that are trying to figure out Dearborn, if you've been off the radar, go ahead, play this clip.

• 1:31:09Speaker 06

  Victory, we haven't done anywhere near enough.

• 1:31:12Adam Sosnick?

  Boom.

• 1:31:12Speaker 06

  And the people here, I promise you, we do feel ashamed. We do feel like we're not doing enough. We do feel like change needs to come because change must come. And in the form that it must come is that this empire, the American empire, that's been hurting our people since the beginning, the imperial Western powers that have been hurting our people since the beginning, they must fall.

• 1:31:30Adam Sosnick?

  So America, Inshallah. And then the next clip, this is, so that's, that's people in Dearborn. America existed during the. To fall. Some crazy guy stabbed the kid and I hope the kid's okay. I didn't know America had been around for 2000 years. Yeah, weird. And then this guy, this is in Dearborn saying death to America. Could you play this one, Rob?

• 1:31:48Speaker 06

  We've been asked in the past.

• 1:31:51Adam Sosnick?

  Michigan activists.

• 1:31:52Speaker 06

  Why are our protests on the International Day of Quds? Why are they so anti-America? Why don't we just focus more on Israel and not talk so much about America?

• 1:32:05Speaker 06

  Gaza has shown the entire world why these protests are so anti-America. Because it's the United States government that provides the funds for all of the atrocities that we just heard about.

• 1:32:17Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, you.

• 1:32:18Speaker 06

  And this is why Imam Khomeini, who declared.

• 1:32:20Adam Sosnick?

  Imam Khomeini, he's giving a shout out to Khomeini. This is in Dearborn.

• 1:32:25Speaker 06

  America.

• 1:32:27Adam Sosnick?

  That's in, yeah, in Michigan. Death to America. And but my point is, and you're trying to, and you're trying. But you could pause it, Rob. And so, so for them, the reporter's story of. Poor kid getting stabbed and saying it might be is a BS lazy story.

• 1:32:45Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the one part that we have a leak in the Constitution that if it's if there's gonna be anything that takes this great country down, it'll be this. Play this clip, Rob. This is New York City, by the way. Go ahead.

• 1:32:58Patrick Bet-David?

  This is New York City. Okay? Alright, so you can pause it right there. Now go do this in Yemen. Go do this in Jordan. Go do this in Iran. Go do this in... Bring thousands of Christians outside and pray and see what happens. Go ahead and do that. See what takes place there.

• 1:33:17Adam Sosnick?

  Good luck.

• 1:33:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is the part where in America, if there is a thing long-term that destroys America from within, it'd be because of this and Christians being too tolerant of this becoming a norm. Very simple. And I know it's not, you know, the popular thing to say. I've been saying it more than ever before.

• 1:33:35Adam Sosnick?

  It's the truth.

• 1:33:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm just saying, it's, it's...

• 1:33:37Adam Sosnick?

  You know what I'm, um... You know what I'm really curious about? Let's say this peace deal in the Middle East actually holds. Let's just say there's peace in the Middle East. What happens to all these people? What are all these protesters? What do they all do? Because let me make a prediction. The same people that are doing the Free Palestine, the Gays for Gaza stuff, they were the same people doing the BLM stuff. They're the same people doing the trans stuff. They were the same people doing the Me Too movement. That whole collection of progressives. Right now, Trump's president, that we're done with DEI, the trans stuff is done. Let's say there's peace in the Middle East. What do all these people do?

• 1:34:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, Gays for Gaza are gonna go to Gaza.

• 1:34:15Adam Sosnick?

  What are they gonna focus on at that point?

• 1:34:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, gays are gonna go party in Gaza.

• 1:34:18Adam Sosnick?

  Because they need to feel the oppressor-oppressed dichotomy. What's next?

• 1:34:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Let, let me...

• 1:34:23Adam Sosnick?

  Like, this is something that we're gonna find out in 2026.

• 1:34:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me get to the next one here. Gay throuple adopts three-year-old child in legal battle over three dads that's dividing woke dystopia. Okay? Policies brought to you by the left during COVID. Just want you to know this here. Okay? Rob, if you have a clip on this one here, let me, let me read this and then you can bring it up. A gay truffle who adopted a little girl have launched lawsuits demanding that their home, province of Quebec legally uh, recognize all three of them as her parents, Eric LeBlanc, Jonathan Bedard, and this is in Canada, by the way, again, COVID policies were all over the world, but these were the things that were getting uh, extremely hot all over the world. Justin Mahou

• 1:35:10Patrick Bet-David?

  said they have been trying to become fathers for years until they were finally matched with a child this week. The trio who live together in Montreal as a truffle said they have adopted the three-year-old girl through the Quebec Youth Protection Services on Thursday. She's perfect. Watch this video, folks.

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• 1:36:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob? Is this them?

• 1:36:35Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:35Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's the girl?

• 1:36:36Adam Sosnick?

  That, did you guys cut the audio on the back?

• 1:36:41Patrick Bet-David?

  So there's no audio? There should be.

• 1:36:44Adam Sosnick?

  They're speaking French Canadian, I guarantee it.

• 1:36:48Adam Sosnick?

  Just maybe a little part, the portions on.

• 1:36:55Adam Sosnick?

  The audio is horrible, meaning from their audio. Wedding wings as well?

• 1:36:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So anyways, at the moment Quebec's political and judiciary officials are at loggerheads over the issue with one Liberal Superior Court judge saying the status quo is unconstitutional while the province attempts

• 1:37:10Patrick Bet-David?

  to block any changes. Canada is generally ruled by very liberal laws and several provinces including Ontario and British Columbia do legally recognize more than two parents. I mean, this is, this is what it's come down to? A young girl being adopted by a throuple, whatever you want to call these guys?

• 1:37:26Adam Sosnick?

  Throuple.

• 1:37:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Throuple and we're okay with that? What do you think about this?

• 1:37:30Adam Sosnick?

  I think it's, you already know where I'm at. The fact that there are three guys, by the way, I don't even care married or not. This poor girl is going to grow up into a house where these three guys and as people that have gay, by the way, I have gay friends, we all know freaking gay people, but these dudes are going to be hooking up in the house. Okay, this little kid's going to hear things, she's going to see things and she's going to be grown, she's going to be raised with nothing but confusion, okay? They're robbing her of what she actually deserves. Girls need a mother to look up to, to guide her, like they need that, that softness, that warmth. Only, only a mom can give. These three throuple guys are not going to give this. She's going to be trapped in a house with adults that are looking for validation.

• 1:38:12Adam Sosnick?

  All right, not for, not for the kid's well-being and they're calling themselves dad in a roof, that's, that's not, that's not the family. They're not, they're not thinking about her future, they're thinking about, uh, themselves, okay? She, there's no mother, there's no balance, nobody wants to say it, but these guys are going to act like it's brave? It's not. It's broken and I don't care what society says. I, I am 100% against this. And the fact that, again, they're not, they're not married, which is even crazier. They're just three gay guys that are going to be, I don't, living with each other and one of them's pissed off because the, the state doesn't want to say that, oh, we're all parents. I'm 100% against this, Tom.

• 1:38:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, a couple of points here. Quebec is Quebec-aphonia.

• 1:38:56Tom Ellsworth?

  The province here. And I got all the kinds of crap the other day from, people came on X, "I'm not gonna watch a podcast anymore. You're dumping on Eastern Canadians." No, I wasn't. I was dumping on the Eastern Canadian government. And I'm dumping on the lunatics that would want it. And I'm dumping right now on the Cubaqua. Not you. I'm dumping on the government that makes this legal in Quebec because this is not a happy ending for the girl or for society. But I'll tell you what's going on, Vinnie. You know why the story's out right now? Daily Mail's putting the story out that they know will be outraged. They know will be upset. But this is the drip, drip, drip of desensitizing us to the outrage.

• 1:39:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Because this is the path they want to go down. The globalists and the people that want to destroy marriage long-term, this is what they want. So they know that this story is gonna draw fire from you and your passion, me, my faith and my passion. They know that. But they want to continue to put this out to drip, drip, drip, to make us slowly but surely desensitized to the outrage over a long time. And we have to hold the line of faith. We have to call evil evil.

• 1:40:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Desensitize over the outrage.

• 1:40:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep. And we need to stay outraged. Because once upon a time, two people getting married and then adopting a kid drew outrage. Now there are increasing percent of Americans that say, "Well, that's cool. To women, to guys, that's cool." You and I both know that there is a gap in the child development, you know, sequencing that is innate to all of us as human beings, regardless of faith. There's a naturalness to what our dad does for us, how he represents what our mom does to us. It's natural. It's innate because of the way we're made. Just the basic way we're made, not the laws that are around us.

• 1:40:50Adam Sosnick?

  Well, look, this reminds me of a movie that was famous in the 80s called Three Men and a baby. Do you guys remember that? Uh, I think, uh.

• 1:40:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Ted Adolph?

• 1:40:59Adam Sosnick?

  It was, uh.

• 1:41:01Patrick Bet-David?

  That's it.

• 1:41:01Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, here it goes right here. Tom Selleck. Remember this movie? It was a good movie. Now, here's the difference between basically the eighties and what's going on today. These were three straight men. A baby that one of them was the, could have been the father. The mother couldn't deal with it. She drops the baby off, you know, comedy ensues. Three straight men. They're dating women. They're taking care of the baby. Mary, ha, ha, ha, ha. They end up taking care of the baby. Fast forward to today, they're not three straight men taking her baby. They're three gay men in a throuple who had to basically protest the Quebec government to let them do it. And they're like, ah, okay, let them have the baby. No problem. What do you think's gonna happen with this baby? In X amount of years?

• 1:41:44Adam Sosnick?

  When she grows up and she's like, uh, so what? You're my dad, but no, you're also my, you're also my dad. And then, okay, what's gonna happen to this baby? Adam, there's three. So they're gonna be hooking up three guys in one room. The left wonders why just normal, God fearing, biblical, Christian men and women are like, what the hell's going on here, guys? Now, I'm no advocate of Sharia law, but between Sharia law and gay throuples, I'm gonna have a hard time picking here, guys. I don't know. Yeah. Cause they're both absolute extremes. And guess what? Doesn't have to be a throuple, which I think is even worse, cause that's three guys in a bedroom, all hooking up with each other.

• 1:42:24Adam Sosnick?

  Even if it was just the two guys, like what? You have no business with a freaking female or like, what are we even talking about right now?

• 1:42:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I am, I am, what you do in your bedroom is none of my business.

• 1:42:35Adam Sosnick?

  That's fine.

• 1:42:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep it to yourself. But when it comes down to a young baby going in there, I am very uncomfortable with this. I'm very uncomfortable. By the way, if you look at the Pew Research on how we were in the last 50 years of all of this to where we are right now. The, the, the, the numbers are staggering when you look at the numbers. How, and, and that, that was the thing that Tom said, I think is a very good point. That we're being desensitized. Ah, no big deal. Let's go to the next story, you know? Who cares, guys? That's their business. I don't care. Let's go to the next story. Makes me feel very, very uncomfortable with this story. Very. Anyways. All we can do is pray for at this point, unless those guys in Canada.

• 1:43:15Adam Sosnick?

  They're done.

• 1:43:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, disagree with it. New York Attorney General Letitia James posted video responding to indictment. So she just got indicted. And story comes out with what happened with her, Rob. If you want to play the clip, but can we, do we have what she's being indicted for, Rob? Can we first share with the audience what she's being indicted for? Because I think that the story is not here on that. But Letitia James posted a video on the statement on X denouncing the indictment against her as baseless and accusing President Trump of weaponization of our justice system. The indictment is discussed with CNN's Jake Tapper by New York congressional candidate Chris Gallant and a couple of other people. And so here's what it is. October 9th, federal grand jury returned an indictment charge in New York Attorney

• 1:43:59Patrick Bet-David?

  General Letitia James with bank fraud and making false statements to a financial institution. The charges relate to her 2020 purchase of her home in Norfolk, Virginia, which prosecutors allege she misrepresented as a secondary residence to obtain favorable mortgage terms while allegedly renting it out and thus reaping an advantage. The US Attorney, the Eastern District, Virginia, Lindsey Halligan personally presented the case to grand jury. This is notable because US Attorney seldom presents indictments. The Justice Department released notes that if convicted, James can face up to 30, 30 years in prison per count, fines up to a million dollars per count. Her arraignment, first court appearance is scheduled to be October 24th in the federal court in Norfolk.

• 1:44:44Patrick Bet-David?

  With that being said, here's Letitia James. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:44:47Speaker 02

  This is nothing more than a continuation of the president's desperate weaponization of our justice system. He is forcing federal law enforcement agencies to do his bidding. All because I did my job as the New York State Attorney General.

• 1:45:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:07Speaker 02

  These charges are baseless.

• 1:45:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:45:09Speaker 02

  And the president's own public statements make clear that his only goal is political retribution at any cost. The president's actions are a grave violation of our constitutional order and have drawn sharp criticism from members of both parties. His decision to fire a United States Attorney who refused to bring charges against me and replace them with someone who is blindly loyal not to the law, but to the president is antithetical to the bedrock principles of our country.

• 1:45:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to cry.

• 1:45:47Tom Ellsworth?

  She's a really interesting reader.

• 1:45:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Did she talk to Jake Tapper? Did she actually get on Jake Tapper and talk to him about you or no?

• 1:45:54Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I have Jake Tapper, it's a different video.

• 1:45:56Adam Sosnick?

  And Rob, I sent you that clip of her back in the day, it's so amazing. I sent Rob a clip where she just...

• 1:46:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Can we read the last sentence there about, you know, being blind loyalty to a president and violating the bedrock of our thing? Isn't that kind of what she... wait a minute. No, no, maybe... no, yeah, yeah, it was.

• 1:46:10Adam Sosnick?

  Just a... but it's ironic because what she's in trouble for, she was trying to do it for Trump, which she lied. And this is... but this is just beautiful. This is music to my ears. Could you play it, Tish?

• 1:46:22Speaker 06

  Fraud.

• 1:46:24Speaker 06

  I'm a proud woman of faith. And I know that faith...

• 1:46:27Adam Sosnick?

  Sorry.

• 1:46:28Speaker 06

  Share the same.

• 1:46:29Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, we have to see it. I'm sorry, because she's trying to talk over herself, Rob. Go ahead.

• 1:46:33Tom Ellsworth?

  There's a gift.

• 1:46:34Speaker 06

  It's simple. No matter how powerful you are.

• 1:46:37Adam Sosnick?

  Really?

• 1:46:38Speaker 06

  No matter how much money you think you may have.

• 1:46:40Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:46:41Speaker 06

  No one is above the law.

• 1:46:42Adam Sosnick?

  Really?

• 1:46:43Speaker 06

  And it is my responsibility and my duty and my job to enforce it.

• 1:46:47Adam Sosnick?

  Good.

• 1:46:47Speaker 06

  The law is both powerful and fragile.

• 1:46:50Adam Sosnick?

  Huh.

• 1:46:50Speaker 06

  And today in court, we will prove our case. I thank you all for being here. And again, justice will prevail.

• 1:46:58Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you. Like, it's so beautiful. I think it's so beautiful.

• 1:47:02Tom Ellsworth?

  And as I sit in any of my three kitchens, all of which are my primary residence, I was thinking about what I'd say this morning.

• 1:47:08Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, Tom, but isn't it, isn't it awesome? Like, it's so funny. It's always, you've always... how many times you say it? It's always the ones pointing and trying to get you in trouble when it's you.

• 1:47:17Tom Ellsworth?

  It's what I keep saying. These Democrats need to go to Boomerang safety training.

• 1:47:20Adam Sosnick?

  That's what I'm saying. Explain it. They throw it and it comes right back. What is this one?

• 1:47:25Patrick Bet-David?

  What is this, Rob?

• 1:47:26Tom Ellsworth?

  This is Anderson Cooper actually taking a shot at Letitia James and her prosecution of Trump.

• 1:47:31Adam Sosnick?

  Is that tug and tug? She's not supposed to work.

• 1:47:33Speaker 07

  Jeff, I mean, according to PolitiFact, the day after she was elected in 2018, Letitia James was asked by a community activist if she was going to sue President Trump. And she replied, quote, "Oh, we're going to definitely sue him. We're going to be a real pain in the ass. He's going to know my name personally." I mean, that's not a great look for somebody who has just been elected or just been campaigning, who hasn't even looked, I guess, at, deeply at any evidence.

• 1:48:01Speaker 02

  We live in a system where attorneys general and district attorneys in the United States, unlike almost any other country, are elected officials, are politicians. So they run for office making political statements. That's how our system works. It's not pretty. I don't think it's a great system, but there's nothing uncommon about it. The other, the other point to make, though, is just because she made inappropriate comments, that doesn't mean she should get indicted for fraud years later. I mean, that's, we're not supposed to, we're, live in a system of that kind of tit for cat. Criminal cases are supposed to stand or fall on their own merits.

• 1:48:43Speaker 07

  David, I mean, there's no evidence that Letitia James's indictment stems from some widespread audit of thousands of working Japanese.

• 1:48:50Adam Sosnick?

  It's crazy.

• 1:48:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Was that our friend Jeffrey Toobin?

• 1:48:53Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, it's crazy.

• 1:48:54Tom Ellsworth?

  I disagree with Jeffrey Toobin there. She made some wild statements and now it's, no, no, no, no. She made wild statements and then she brought indictments and then she pursued it. So I, thank you, Anderson Cooper, for pointing out the, the really bad look and the reflection here.

• 1:49:08Adam Sosnick?

  Well, because here's the thing, she broke the law. You obviously broke the law. They're bringing it to the courts. Good luck. And just, just like she said, justice will prevail. If she's innocent, she should walk away. Right?

• 1:49:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Toobin's been on the show. He was a very likeable guy when he was here.

• 1:49:25Adam Sosnick?

  He had his pants on.

• 1:49:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Come on, but Jeff.

• 1:49:27Adam Sosnick?

  I love him.

• 1:49:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Come on, Jeffrey, you gotta tell the whole story. To be fair, you gotta tell the whole story. Well, she didn't just make statements. She then proceeded with indictments. Let's be fair.

• 1:49:35Adam Sosnick?

  Thoughts? Look, I mean, this is what Eric Trump basically just said, is that Trump didn't go after Biden. It didn't go after Biden's family, didn't, you know, lock her up. So they, he might've said those speeches. He never actually went after Hillary or Biden, but the same can't be said of what they did for Trump. So she campaigned, I believe, in 2018. I remember this. She vowed to pursue Donald Trump. She called him a quote unquote illegitimate president. She campaigned on this. And then here's what happens. And with this same thing that happened with Andrew Tate, it's supposed to be find the crime, find the suspect. Find the crime, find the man. Flip it. What they did to Donald Trump is find Donald Trump, now let's find some crimes. Let's find some crimes here, guys.

• 1:50:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Thank you.

• 1:50:20Adam Sosnick?

  And this is exactly what's going on here. So unfortunately, Tish, what goes around comes around. We don't want to have political retribution in this, in this country.

• 1:50:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Because here's what we know and I'm shocked politicians don't know it. Maybe Trump understands this better than most. Every four to eight years, the pendulum swings. And you might think you're in power now, but all of a sudden the other party's in power. And then the other parties come to power. And if we're just going to do this tit for tat, squabble, squabble, squabble, political retribution, then we're nothing more than a third world banana republic. So you have to actually respect the fact that Trump has not gone after Biden. The way that Biden went after Trump.

• 1:50:55Adam Sosnick?

  Or the whole, or the long list of, well, the spying.

• 1:50:57Patrick Bet-David?

  What Eric Trump said.

• 1:50:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:58Patrick Bet-David?

  It's what Eric Trump said earlier, so we'll, we'll see. I mean, look, at the end of the day, if that's what happened and that comes out. What an, I mean, is there anybody who has gained redemption more than Trump has? If all this stuff comes out? Anybody in the history of mankind, like during our lifetime?

• 1:51:17Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 1:51:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know of anybody during our lifetime.

• 1:51:20Tom Ellsworth?

  How many people do you hear so and so was right about everything? One person here, Trump.

• 1:51:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, Eric gave me a hat and they had a sign that says Trump was right about everything. So that's a top selling hat that they have. That they always talk about, by the way, Italians, guess what? We're back Italians.

• 1:51:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Forget about.

• 1:51:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm 18% Italian, according to ancestry. Trump ditches Indigenous People Day to honor Christopher Columbus. By the way, who did the indigenous people? Is that Obama?

• 1:51:50Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, it was Biden, wasn't it?

• 1:51:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Who, who did the indigenous people? Anyways, here's President Trump, Rob, if you want to play this clip while you're looking for it so we can see it. President Trump, traditional approach to American history is extending to Columbus Day with a proclamation. Celebrating Italian explorer Christopher Columbus as the original American hero. And accusing his critics of slander. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:52:09Speaker 02

  Today we have your Columbus Day proclamation for Monday, which we're signing a bit early. Christopher Columbia, Columbus, obviously discovered the new world in 1492. He was a great Italian explorer. He sailed his three ships to Nina, the Pinta and Santa Maria across the Atlantic Ocean. And landed in what's today the Caribbean. But this is a particularly important holiday for.

• 1:52:33Adam Sosnick?

  Italian Americans who celebrate the legacy of Christopher Columbus and the innovation and explorer zeal that he represented.

• 1:52:41Tom Ellsworth?

  In other words, we're calling it Columbus Day.

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• 1:53:08Speaker 01

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• 1:53:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 1:53:40Speaker 01

  Another word.

• 1:53:44Tom Ellsworth?

  That was the press that broke out in applause. That was, can you believe that? I've never seen that happen before. The press actually broke out in applause. Good. Columbus Day. We're back. Columbus Day, we're back. We're back, baby.

• 1:54:05Patrick Bet-David?

  God, I love it. Love that. Yeah, I mean, listen, Tom, your thoughts? This is not a story I want to spend a lot of time on, but...

• 1:54:11Speaker 02

  By the way, it was under Joe Biden. Joe Biden made the official proclamation in 2021. He formally commemorated the holiday and becoming the first president to call it International Indigenous Population Day.

• 1:54:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think Biden, like, what percentage do you think Biden's watching the news and everything that's going on?

• 1:54:30Adam Sosnick?

  5%.

• 1:54:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think it's 5%?

• 1:54:32Adam Sosnick?

  I don't even think he knows what time is it. I'm dead serious. I'm not making fun. He was, he was in bad shape when he left. I don't even think he's just... I don't know what drugs they have him on, but I don't know if he's going through chemo or he must be.

• 1:54:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Has he made any statements, public statements recently?

• 1:54:47Adam Sosnick?

  He's in, he's.

• 1:54:48Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think he's as much of a vegetable as people are making him out to be.

• 1:54:51Adam Sosnick?

  But you think he's why, he's following, he doesn't, Adam, come on, towards the end, he was really, he didn't know what the hell was going on. I feel bad, I feel bad.

• 1:55:00Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not saying that he's sharp as a tack, I just don't think that Biden is vegetable at this point, I mean, I haven't seen anything like that.

• 1:55:05Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a fruit maybe, like what, I mean.

• 1:55:07Tom Ellsworth?

  No, what do I think, I think it's important to unwind ridiculous proclamations and to restore recognition to one of the great explorers. I think that's a good thing.

• 1:55:19Adam Sosnick?

  But let me ask you a question, just really fast, going back to Adam's thing, if a new, if let's just say, God forbid, a Democrat comes in this next thing, the next cycle, they could easily just go right back and say, we're back to indigenous, whatever day, so I mean, this is not that big.

• 1:55:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Don't pick on Biden, he's an old guy, sick and everything.

• 1:55:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Last time he spoke was in May, to 60 Minutes.

• 1:55:40Tom Ellsworth?

  And, you know, he, he changed it to Ingenuity People Day, and he's like, what's wrong with entrepreneurs?

• 1:55:48Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, he had no idea, yeah, he had no idea.

• 1:55:50Tom Ellsworth?

  He had no idea what they were doing, he was just putting stuff in front of him and signing it. Well, look, I'll tell you what's worse than this whole Digitus Day and Columbus Day is what Biden did last year when it was Easter and also Trans Day of Visibility. And on Easter, he's like, hey, guys, Happy Easter, but more importantly, Transgender Day of Visibility, can we get a shout out? To all my transgender folks out there, yeah, do your little Easter and honky Christian people, ba ba ba ba ba, Transgender Day of Visibility, guys, here we go. Dude, wasn't it on that day?

• 1:56:21Patrick Bet-David?

  It was on that day, right there.

• 1:56:22Tom Ellsworth?

  In the middle, where that one person, like the second year of his administration, was that where the?

• 1:56:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie did a video on this, it was funny as hell, they did a White House dancing.

• 1:56:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, there wasn't there, this, this woman that did this little topless flash out there?

• 1:56:38Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah, no, the trans guy that showed.

• 1:56:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you want to see it again?

• 1:56:41Adam Sosnick?

  You want to show it real quick, Rob?

• 1:56:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Same time, I just don't think it's like, people have watches.

• 1:56:47Adam Sosnick?

  The forewoman would be jealous.

• 1:56:48Tom Ellsworth?

  I will say this, I don't, I'm not going to make any Christopher Columbus fans here, just imagine. And we all know fourteen ninety-two Columbus Trail of the Blue, you know, Hernando Cortez and Ponce de Leon, all these explorers.

• 1:56:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Hi, Ponce.

• 1:57:00Tom Ellsworth?

  You live here in America, you're Native American. You, you, you got your, your house, your huts, your teepees, you're here. And some dude rolls up out of nowhere, he's like, what up? I just found this land. They're like, uh, we're, we're here.

• 1:57:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:15Tom Ellsworth?

  We're already here. Nope. I found it. Finders, weavers, loopers, keepers, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, it's Columbus Day now, you indigenous people. So I do understand where indigenous people are coming from. But I think something that we have to remember, like, everything is social media right now. There's outrage, outrage, outrage. History? It's all wars and brutality and if might makes right and survival of the fittest and Darwinism and it's disgusting and that's history. We're actually living in the safest time in human history right now. The bloodiest time in human history was in the twentieth century. World War Two, World War One.

• 1:57:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:52Tom Ellsworth?

  So we forget how ugly history was. Thank God we live in America now.

• 1:57:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I love it. I love it. Yeah, I agree. Thank God I live in America right now too as well. Uh, let's go to a couple of stories before we wrap up. One of the stories that I'm gonna go to is this guy named Puffy. Which the president calls him. By the, what picture was that?

• 1:58:10Adam Sosnick?

  That was Christopher.

• 1:58:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Christopher Columbus.

• 1:58:12Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a bad picture.

• 1:58:13Tom Ellsworth?

  That's a, that's a horrible painter.

• 1:58:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I literally threw me off. That's, that's, that's not a good picture.

• 1:58:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, what if he's like, hey, to the painters, like, guess what we did?

• 1:58:21Adam Sosnick?

  What are you doing?

• 1:58:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Isn't that person running for governor of California? Is that, is that?

• 1:58:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Actually, that's kinda where I was going. It didn't look like a Christopher Columbus.

• 1:58:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Get out of my damn shot.

• 1:58:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Christie.

• 1:58:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Get out of my effing boat.

• 1:58:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me, let me get to the story here. All right. So, so, so, uh, I'll go to the other one. Democrats demand robot tax. As AI reportedly threatens to replace a hundred million US jobs. Okay? That are gonna be replacing. Let me read this to you. New Senate report warns that AI could displace nearly a hundred million US jobs within the next decade, sparing Democrats to push to a robot tax on companies that replace human workers with tech. The analysis produced by Democratic staffer on the Senate Health and Educational Labor Pensions Committee was driven by Senator Bernie Sanders.

• 1:59:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Who?

• 1:59:15Patrick Bet-David?

  By responses from chat GPT, 20 major workforce sectors were examined. It was found that 15 could use, could see more than half of their positions replaced by AI systems or robotics. The hardest hit, the robot says, will be fast food and counter workers with an estimated 3 million jobs loss, which is about 89% of workforce. Other high-risk fields include customer service, freight, and material movers, and executive assistants with projected automation rates above 80%. The robot also urges lawmakers to confront that Sanders has called an "economic crossroads." Rob, if you want to play this clip, go for it.

• 1:59:50Speaker 06

  ... providing billions in tax breaks to companies that are throwing workers out on the street and replacing them with new technologies. We should enact a robot tax. You think a lot about AI. What about that idea? Bad idea, as usual. Look who's promoting it. It's a person who believes that people aren't taxed enough in America. He's literally trying to come up with a new tax scheme in his idea. The problem with our government right now is we are overtaxing a lot of things, and we overspend on a lot of things as well. But Bernie Sanders' reflex is always more taxes, more regulations. We have to move towards a modern government. One of the things

• 2:00:24Patrick Bet-David?

  that I am working with Democrats on is AI. As you know, we convened Sam LaCarne, a Democrat out of California. He and I have formed a group that we meet regularly and hear from the AI leaders around the world what we need. The biggest challenge right now is the issue of energy. If we're going to beat the Chinese in AI, we need the energy necessary to fuel AI, because as you know, it takes nine times more energy than conventional computing. Okay, Tom, thoughts?

• 2:00:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, sorry I barked there where you were reading when I said "who", but it's Bernie Sanders. No, no, no, that was... Hey, Tom? It's okay, you're reading and that stuff like that. It's not your fault. What is that noise? We still love you. The, um... It's okay, Tom. Yeah, so Bernie Sanders strikes again. Bernie Sanders strikes again. And on one side, you know what? I understand Bernie because he's on brand here. He's trying to defend workers. He's trying to do these things. And on the other hand, he doesn't see the correlation between like his regulation and his, you know, free education and, you know, minimum wage has to be a living wage, even if you're just working at a fast food restaurant a few hours a week. Come on.

• 2:01:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Actions have consequences and capitalism is undefeated. It's just like, you know, ask any drunk person, gravity is undefeated. Right? It's, that's what you discover. And so what's going on right here is kind of scary because now, let's say, an entrepreneur builds robots to do very simple things that were menial, or maybe even had some risk in them. You know, sewage treatment plants, things like this. There are things that people do, trash collection, that have a degree of risk in it. And those will be displacing jobs and robots will be doing that and more. And to thank the entrepreneur, and by the way, some people will be enjoying a lower cost of service because of that.

• 2:02:16Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 2:02:16Tom Ellsworth?

  In other words, they'll be getting, they'll be still be able to get, you know, a $7 burger fries and a, and a drink for, for lunch, thanks to the fact that the robots are in there doing part of it and they're saving the dollars on it. But now we're going to tax the robots. This is a really dangerous slippery slope because it's going to basically put us in a position where, you know, where does innovation start or stop? And I think this is a really dangerous piece of legislation.

• 2:02:49Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I agree. I think, uh, look, there's no doubt that AI is going to replace, people are going to lose jobs. I, I don't know the percentage of jobs, that still remains to be seen. Some people are a little more skeptical, some people are a little more aggressive with the numbers. But in typical Bernie Sanders, uh, uh, tradition, just itching to tax people, just kind of like waiting to get in there. It's not like we don't have enough taxes in this country with federal's tax, state income tax, city tax, uh, sales tax, property tax, VAT tax, gasoline tax, capital gains tax, ordinary income, and then you pay all that and then you die. And if you're worth a certain amount of money, then you got to pay an estate tax. So it's like we're getting tax, tax, tax, tax, tax. And then here's Bernie Sanders being like, yeah, let's tax the robots too, not even the humans.

• 2:03:33Adam Sosnick?

  So it just, their first option is more taxes.

• 2:03:39Patrick Bet-David?

  But but but let's let's let's not Rob, can you go to the Matt Walsh tweet? Matt Walsh tweeted this, see if you agree with Matt Walsh or not. I do think it's something that we have to be thinking about. And Matt Walsh is a, you know, conservative guy. Says it's weird that we can already see how AI is about to wipe out millions of jobs all at once, destroy every artistic field, make it impossible for us to discern reality from fiction, destroy human civilization as we know it, and yet not one single thing is being done to stop it. We aren't putting up the fight whatsoever. Rob, this isn't the tweet. There's another tweet like this. Go go go back to his account, go back to his account, go a little bit lower, zoom in a little bit because my eyes are 47 years old next week, but zoom, keep going lower.

• 2:04:20Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a tweet that he goes where he purely says, keep going, keep going. It's a massive tweet. Lower, lower, lower. Okay, well, maybe maybe it's an older tweet because he tweets a lot. He talks about how he is convinced for a fact AI is going to be destroying a lot of jobs. You know, a lot of making a challenge for the economy. The question becomes, so what Tom, what do you do? What jobs are not going to be replaced? Go there. What jobs is AI not going to be replacing? Okay, because there's there's been many different technologies that we've come up with over the years. Oh, my God, what's going to happen with this boom?

• 2:05:03Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, it's it's it's the shift, right? Jobs go to a different place. We shift and go to a different place.

• 2:05:10Patrick Bet-David?

  What jobs do you think won't be replaced whatsoever?

• 2:05:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I I think the entrepreneur themselves, people that that create. And entrepreneurs can create art and everything, but you know, artistic expression. You know, you have any part of the brain where it's the creative pursuit. And it's not just the art painting on painter. It's people that are envisioning. New solutions to these, not just the entrepreneurs, the business, but new solutions. Whereas the menial stuff like putting nuts and bolts together in a little assembly line. Robotic arms have been replacing humans at General Motors for a while and Sean, what's his name? Has been negotiating with General Motors on how quickly these robotic arms will be replacing. Sean O'Brien.

• 2:05:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Sean O'Brien. Yeah, he's been negotiating for years with the auto industry about how fast they will put more arms, mechanical arms on the assembly line versus a human that doesn't have to think, just have to do and do 25 years on an assembly line and go home with arthritis and rheumatism in both wrists. So those are going to be replaced. Taxi drivers, long-term, are going to be replaced. But there's a whole bunch of stuff on the knowledge workers and things that, you know, are in creative expression and innovative design and things are not going to be replaced.

• 2:06:31Adam Sosnick?

  Like podcasters.

• 2:06:33Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's what Matt Walsh says, Rob. I just sent it to you, Rob, if you want to pull it up. While he's pulling it up, I'll just read it to you folks so you can see. He says, "People say that we shouldn't worry about AI wiping out jobs. The jobs will change," they say, "but the whole point of AI is that it removes the human competent entirely. The jobs aren't going to change. They'll just disappear. AI will make like 10 billion, 10 people into trillionaires," which I agree. Think Musk will be one in no time. "Almost everyone else will be screwed. Mass unemployment, millions of workers rendered, irrelevant all at once. That's the, that's what's going to happen. Not maybe, not might. It's going

• 2:07:17Patrick Bet-David?

  to happen and it doesn't seem like we're doing anything at all to prepare for it." Do you agree with him?

• 2:07:23Adam Sosnick?

  I, it's, if you really take a second, because you, think about how many millions of people, millions of Americans are not going to have any jobs, then what's going to happen? How are they going to feed their families? It's, this, this could potentially lead to something crazy. I'm talking about like war, civil war, where everybody, it's going to be the, the people that aren't really affected. buy it those really, really rich people and then everybody that's gonna be because I I think it's gonna happen like that like once it happens Pat because you were talking about which skills electricians you know podcasters comedians you know healthcare people surgeons which at some point that's gonna be taken over too but the regular like jobs that people are having like it's gonna go bye bye and

• 2:08:03Adam Sosnick?

  what are what are Americans gonna do what are we gonna do with all those people that have no jobs all of a sudden how they're gonna feed their families what are they gonna do

• 2:08:10Tom Ellsworth?

  living on UBI for a government that prints money until you die

• 2:08:14Adam Sosnick?

  oh it's over Tom but that's I think it's gonna be bad I think he I think he's right

• 2:08:18Tom Ellsworth?

  I think there needs to be guardrails

• 2:08:20Patrick Bet-David?

  you know what I what I think may happen what may happen is i- i- there's gonna be civilizations that are anti AI you there will be places that will be built that have certain controls with AI where it's about human ingenuity I think it's gonna go like eh and then dude I miss working I miss just I wanna build something there's gonna be pockets of it like this a lot of it's gonna be ran that way but some of the other parts gonna show up that's the extreme measure but I think some of the other things that YouTube is doing already YouTube saying I don't want any AI videos we're not gonna monetize for AI videos

• 2:09:03Patrick Bet-David?

  more and more companies all these consulting firms went out there and they moved their customer service into all AI and the customers are not happy they started losing customers to other people they wanna talk to people like when how many times you ever call somebody like zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero

• 2:09:20Tom Ellsworth?

  representative representative

• 2:09:21Patrick Bet-David?

  who's part of the community right yeah and then somebody picks up hi this is a Mary Jones you know from AT&T what can I help you with I said Mary I just wanna talk to somebody yes what can I help you with is this a real human being or a robot yes what can I help you with oh shit I thought you were a human being man give me somebody I can talk to right but uh looks like it's going there Adam what are your thoughts on this

• 2:09:42Tom Ellsworth?

  well I think young men need to pay attention to this because there was an article I think CBS right here is that says as AI threatens white collar work more young Americans choose blue collar careers now eh eh eh for a young man I get a lot of questions on my neck I'm young I'm getting out of college what should I be doing ba ba ba ba ba you should definitely start thinking about jobs that will not be replaced by AI

• 2:10:02Speaker 06

  So if you're working with your hands like a real man like Mike Rowe and dirty jobs, like electricians, plumbers, welders, masons, HVAC guys, anything like that, anytime soon that will not be replaced by AI. But there are a lot of concerns about what jobs will be replaced by AI. But I'll give you maybe some upside. If AI actually takes people's jobs, maybe certain females' jobs that are a little bit more or less hands-on, I still think we're gonna have teachers. I still think we're gonna have jobs that a man needs to do. I think a lot of women are gonna be able to stay home and take care of the kids a little bit more, kind of back in the day. This might be, there might be a portion of AI that work does become automated.

• 2:10:46Speaker 06

  We don't need as much work. And this might lead to a little bit more of a baby boom. I don't know, I could be wrong. But I think as men kind of like become more manly and get back to work with their hands, that kind of a thing, and AI replaces some of these female jobs, these white-collar jobs, women will go back to raising babies and maybe, just maybe, the traditional family home gets back there. Or we all just end up living in an AI-dominated world and none of us can leave the house. Who knows? But there might be some good that comes with this.

• 2:11:18Patrick Bet-David?

  We will see. But race for impact. Guys, we believe the future looks bright. But remember, 51% future looks bright, 49% only the paranoid survive. Be ready for it, because crazy times are coming. Having said that, one last time, guys, if you got anybody that, if you agreed, disagreed with Tom, Vinnie, or Adam, or Rob. Sometimes maybe some of you guys disagreed with him. Send a Menech. There's a QR code right there for all the folks and right now. We got a bunch of new people that are getting on Menech, which is very, very exciting, especially after making the announcement that Tony Robbins is officially a strategic partner. For some of you guys that are making, you got money, money, you know the value of Tony. Tony, when he speaks, it's a half a million dollars to a million dollar speaking fee.

• 2:12:02Patrick Bet-David?

  If you want to Menech with Tony, Tony's also officially on Menech. He responds to everybody, but you know, you can message him as well.

• 2:12:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Did you see this breaking news, by the way? Our friend who- won the Nobel Peace Prize.

• 2:12:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Gave credit to Trump.

• 2:12:14Tom Ellsworth?

  She said, I actually want to dedicate this award.

• 2:12:17Patrick Bet-David?

  To Trump.

• 2:12:17Tom Ellsworth?

  To Trump. I mean, she wants to dedicate to the Venezuelan people. She knows.

• 2:12:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I respect.

• 2:12:20Tom Ellsworth?

  But she understands what Trump is doing.

• 2:12:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah. And by the way, this Sean O'Brien, Teamster President, who I think he had an issue with Amazon. They're going back and forth. His podcast will be going live tomorrow morning. Stay tuned. We had a very interesting, entertaining and by the way, in the middle of it, he tried to get Rob to join the union.

• 2:12:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Really?

• 2:12:37Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to watch.

• 2:12:38Tom Ellsworth?

  During the podcast?

• 2:12:39Patrick Bet-David?

  It's obviously, he's a great sense of humor guy. But gang, have a great weekend. We'll do it again next week. God bless. Bye bye.

• 2:13:14Speaker 01

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