NFL Week 9, Fastest 2 Minutes, Bengals Keep Rolling, Packers Look Unstoppable, Afternoon Blowouts Plus Who's Back Of The Week

NFL Week 9, we start with Fastest 2 Minutes (00:00:00-00:15:21) Bengals 34, Falcons 17 (00:15:21-00:29:11) Broncos 26, Panthers 21 (00:29:11-00:43:30) Rams 20, Commanders 13 (00:43:30-00:57:36) Saints 23, Browns 22 (00:57:36-01:06:20) Giants 19, Eagles 11 (01:06:20-01:15:46) Lions 19, Dolphins 9 (01:15:46-01:24:10) Chiefs 35, Jets 12 (01:24:10-01:34:25) Cowboys 27, Colts 23 (01:34:25-01:50:18) Texans 44, Chargers 22 (01:50:18-01:57:01) Seahawks 17, Cardinals 3 (01:57:01-02:02:07) Niners 38, Raiders 17 (02:02:07-02:05:46) Packers 45, Patriots 27 (02:05:46-02:30:33) Bears 27, Bucs 24 (02:30:33-02:46:46) We finish with who's back of the week. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Netflix. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take https://barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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  On today's Pardon My Take, presented by DraftKings, we've got Week 9 in the NFL. Not the best week of football, but there were some good games. We had Browns-Saints overtime. The game in Spain. Hank, you had to play the Packers. Crazy Sunday night football game. Bears survived, but it was weird as fuck. We're gonna talk fastest 2 minutes, then we're gonna talk about every game. We got who's back of the week. And it is all brought to you by our friends at Noble. This podcast is brought to you by Noble, Barstool's favorite footwear brand. The season can be demanding between busy schedules, competing priorities,

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  Welcome to Pardon My Take, presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, November 9, and it's Week 9.

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  We start in Spain, where Atlanta fans may be in their blue period, knowing they had to face Pablo Picasso Burrow, who has been playing surreal as of late. But it was the Atlantonio Banderas Falcons who struck first, going up 7 to Zorro after Charlie Warner Brothers opened up with a big bang and a spike in the end zone. But it didn't last long, as Jamar Salona Chase got in for fifth, proving when it comes to the best receivers, he's at the top of the list. And it wasn't just Chase. Matador Higgins had the Falcons secondary

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  seeing red, laying out to catch two scores himself. Falcons took a pill in Ibiza to show Goodell they were still cool. And when they finally got sober, they were still a bad football team. But fuck it, it was something to do. Bengal 34, Falcons 17.

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  We go down to South Beach, where the Lions look to do an impression of a Japanese fisherman against the Dolphins, led by head coach Dan Campbell. Malik Bruce Willis and his right arm again and struggled with a two-minute drill. But one interception is at the end of the world with a fleck of the wrist. The Dolphins are committed to losing the right way, playing hard and pulling out all the trick plays, as putter Bradley Pinyonman Square shows that this is a dangerous tank. Chairman Malcolm Rodriguez and Chuck Carl Clark sees the Dolphins' property and remember, remember the 8th of November, as Guy Fawkes has a

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  pipe fake putt of his own. The game was tight until the third quarter, when Jameer Quaid Gibbs sent Miami into virtual insanity, not knowing which way was up, as the Lions take the lead and turn the Dolphins into leftover two of fish. Lions 19, Dolphins 9. We now head over to Kansas City, where Mims is there for the Jets and the Chiefs.

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  In Arrowhead, it was a get-right game for the Chiefs. And Patrick Wheezy, Mahomes, who got his groove back and a hurt elbow because of the Jets' only defender, who should still be on the fucking team, David A. Bay Bailey, who had two sacks and two forced fumbles. Kenny, you are such a no-go head. Walker had three touchdowns. Travis Kelsey Scott had ice on his neck, flawless baguettes, hop on the Jets, barely get wrecked, as the tight end was able to do whatever he wanted to. Rashishi, do you love me? Are you bankrupt? You weren't supposed to do that, Rice. Also had a good game. Mason Taylor Swift and the Jets got nothing in their brain, except for, no, Jason, Colonel Sanders, you're wrong.

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  Who was 4 for 5 from field or range? I bumbled that.

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  You got it. I think there's something wrong with your medulla oblongata, Mims.

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  It's time for the Chiefs to cut Mr. Harrison, fucker, as he missed another field goal to end the half. Chiefs 35, Jets 12.

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  Great job, Mims. Can you give us the Charles again?

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  Kenny, you are such a no-go head.

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  Zach, Zach, we go to Zach, in New Orleans. For the Saints and Browns.

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  In New Orleans, Charlie Sheen Smythe has tiger blood pulsing through his veins as he put on a winning performance, as the Saints' leading scorer kicking slightly better than 2.5, going 3 for 4 on the day. HIV? More like MVP. Many minutes later, Shador Bernie Sanders climbs down the podium and into the pocket, shouting, "A nation will not survive morally or economically when so few have so much and so many have so little, before passing to Kansas City Concepcion, whose jersey number remarkably resembles the National World War I Museum Memorial, taking the ball down the field 64 yards for his first career touchdown." And overtime. Who are you? Who you? I'm the owner of this house. Wrong answer. My granddaughter, Tyler Perry Shuck, is the owner of this house. You ain't got no power, hoe, and no deed.

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  Tyler Perry Shuck throws a growth engine-sized pass to Jawan DeRoc Johnson, who checks the entire Browns' defense into the SmackDown Hotel, before dropping a people's elbow in the end zone for six points. Also in overtime, Jersey Shore Door Sanders decides to audible from t-shirt time and initiates GTL. Jim touchdown laundry with a pass to Harold and Gumar Fannin, making a pit stop in the end zone before rerouting the GPS straight to White Castle. 30 sliders, five french fries, and four large drinks won't be enough to take the pain away from this heartbreaking loss. Saints 23, Cleveland 22.

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  Great job, Zach. Get yourself a water. In Indianapolis, where it looks like Shane Reichens 1,000-day rule, the Colts maybe coming to a close as his team tried to bunker down and win a football game. Did they? Nine, of course not, but they still tried their hardest. Seth Obi Magowan Kenobi used a force to score early, and I've never seen any Star Wars movies, so I don't know any other references, other than the Cowboys being the Death Star. Dak Prescott and Chicken Bake Ferguson hit for a big boom, and the C.D. Lamb rizzed his way into the end zone to extend the lead. But because it's the Cowboys, the other team

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  always has a Schottenheimer. Thankfully, Caleb Systems of the Downs bounced back after getting dribbled last week to make chop suey of the Colts' offense and seal the victory. Are the Cowboys back? No, they just played the Colts. Cowboys 27, Colts 23.

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  We go to our nation's capital, where fittingly, in an election week, both teams blew it in red zones. Washington was at one point the leader, but Devonte John Adams is out and replaced by Van Thomas Jefferson. Meanwhile, Aaron Donald Trump made Oregon tackle Josh Connerly look like a lame duck. But enough about presidents. This game reminded me of The Lion King, where my good friend Puma used to say, "Puka Nakua Matata." What a wonderful phrase. And Lester Commanders' defender getting tragically trampled to death all afternoon. Sonny Bono Stiles was getting downhill all day, running violently into Tyler Higtry.

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  The difference maker of this game, Mick faking my way downtown, walking fast, Stafford pass over homebound. "Let's need dude." He missed you, 'cause you know I'd walked a thousand miles. Garrett just came back. And delivered a bunch of smash hits, sealing this game for the Rams, as the Commies lose, despite gaining control of the Senate this week. Rams 20, Commanders 13. We now head out west, where Max is in LA.

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  Uh, we, we may have had some help from a disgruntled Chargers fan for the writing of, of this, of this program here. Once upon a time in Hollywood, SoFi Stadium, that is, the hateful 0-8 Chargers faced the Texans from Houston, where this ragtag crew of inglorious bastards tried to muster up enough courage to squeak, squeak out one win this year. Written and directed by Quentin Tarantino Johnston, this tale of redemption starring Jim Carrey Harbaugh in the lead. Wait, scratch that. This man couldn't lead a fucking horse to water, but he sure can lead them to Holy Land in Jeremiah Joseph Smith, who spent the better part of the latter day yelling at his team for not scoring. At least he

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  didn't go 37 drives without scoring. Now that would be fucking ridiculous, wouldn't it? At least the team made the changes they need when they assigned Mike Rowe McDaniels in the dirty job of going from the field up to the coaches box. Surely the first box that little guy has ever been in, even though he's neutered sheet testicles with his teeth. No job has ever been dirtier than watching that fucking pile of shit fucking offense for eight weeks. Now let's get to the Texans. Woody raced for the pie.

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  Stop, stop.

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  As he was, as he was able to get into the end zone for the Texans and Trey Song, Trey Song's booty was saying, I can't get enough touchdowns as he was able to get into the end zone twice. Hey Bert, hey Ernie. Herbert wasn't a big stupid picks guy today, Bert. He was just a big stupid pick guy because he only had one pick. Good one, Ernie. Oh, look, here comes the count. It is eyes the count. Let's count, lost this. How long is this one?

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  Wait, I'm cutting, I'm cutting.

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  Shane, Shane's got a lot to get off his chest. Uh, Shane stopped talking a little while ago. This one's me now.

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  One, two losses, three losses. I gotta, I gotta stay, I gotta stay in it. I gotta stay in it. Four losses, five losses, six, seven losses, eight losses. Wow. Those losses in the NFL. Chargers lose 44-22.

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  Thanks, Max. We finish out in Foxborough with Hank. Yeah. Tough act to follow there, Boom. In Foxborough on Rob Gronkowski Day, Iceman Bobby Drake May was picked off by Professor Xavier McKinley to give the Packers a short field to start. Dejion Jordan Love exploited the Pat's D and extracted a touchdown and Matthew Golden Compass read the Pat's defense so well, it looked like he had an alethiometer as he dusted by them on the way into the end zone. Yo, I never fucked Wayne. I never fucked Drake May connected with and tell them bitches blow me Lance Remandre Stevenson

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  for a 30 yard score to give the pass life. Unfortunately, Chris, Christian Liz Gonzalez looked like he got hit by a car on his way into the stadium, getting cooked left and right the whole night, giving up touchdowns to Sabian Serena Williams. Ah, and Christian Gray Watson. Ah, Pat's gave up the most points in the history of Giants Stadium in front of Tom Brady, who's probably secretly happy because he's a sick fuck. Patriots 45, or Packers 45, Patriots 27.

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  Standing on the corner, Jimmy Swinson in Hoboken, such a fine sight to see. It's the birds, my lord. They look like turds can't score and Joe Milton's throwing laser beams. Come on, Jay, Jay, you're hurt. It's May Day. That's a really nice comeback, just like Ray J. Giants 19, fall, fall for your Eagles 11. And that was your week nine fastest two minutes brought to you by our friends at Chevy. Football season is here and whether you're grinding through the week or gearing up for kickoff, there's one ride that's always

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  Yeah. Tough day.

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  The early slate was a gross one. Uh, we had some, some, some eyesore games, but we actually had a good one overseas because Joe Burrow played and let's start there. What? Oh, Hank. Oh, Hank's watching the end of the, the Patriots Packers game, which has been a ass kicking.

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  Yeah. Fourth quarter. Hank, tell me who wins.

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  You got, you, you made the Packers good again, and I'm mad at you for that. Sorry. They looked, we'll get to that game, but Jordan Love just dropping bombs everywhere. Every single like just throw was just, oh, okay. Matthew Golden. Oh, okay. Christian Watson. All right. Bengals 34 Falcons 17. Hank, your Spain game, your international game. I think we said you were going to recap this all yourself. I won't make you do that, but I want you to start. Jamar Chase was in Spain. Yeah. Yeah. He dropped that tweet. I love that tweet. Jamar Chase was in Spain. I tweeted that from bed and I was like, wow, my brain's firing early, early today. I mean, he was in Spain. He was in Spain. It was, it was the Jamar Chase show. It was basically the Bengals were like, hey, we only have to play one really good half of football

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  and we can win this game easily. The Bengals, I told you guys on Friday, don't be surprised that the Bengals can find a way to get the one seed because they're hot. They don't have the toughest schedule. The last, so the Bengals three weeks ago got shut out in the first half against the Ravens. In the last 10 quarters, they have scored 112 points and Joe Burrow has gone 78 for 95. That's 82% completion percentage, 982 yards, 12 touchdowns. That's the last 10 quarters. And today was just a continuation of it where Jamar Chase is, I mean, he's the best receiver in the, I guess JSN has a conversation, but

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  Jamar Chase, when he's on, he was a cheat code. It was, they spam the Jamar Chase button. He had 142 yards in the first half alone and that one drive where, uh, I think it was like 14-10 Bengals and they just hit the Jamar, Joe Burrow was like Jamar Chase, Jamar Chase, Jamar Chase. He had five catches for 69 yards. They go up 21-10. That was enough. They obviously tacked on two more, but the Bengals offense is humming PFT.

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  He's the one guy that I think if you, if you know you're going to him, your opponents know that you're going to him. He has the ability to be like the most demoralizing spam play in the league when you can't stop him. And he does, well, I mean, we saw like Flacco did it with Jamar Chase last year too. Like he is that good. If you get him in space, he's in Spain and today he was going in Spain against, uh, AJ Terrell. And AJ Terrell just has this thing with Jamar Chase where he's never going to get rid of him.

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  No.

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  He's going to have nightmares about him when he's 45, out of the league. He's going to wake up in the middle of the night and just be like, that motherfucker's back again. Uh, because he was on Clemson, obviously during the national championship game, guarding Jamar. And then they played again, I believe, uh, three or four years ago, but I did the math on it. The three times they've faced off and obviously every play Jamar is not going up against AJ, but it's, it happens a lot. They're playing against each other. Um, the three times that they've played against each other, Jamar Chase has, uh, 27 receptions for 506 yards and five touchdowns against this one poor bastard. And, um, they couldn't stop him. It's like Kendrick Lamar and Father John Misty. It's like that guy is going to be on your bumper for the rest of your life. Whenever you're there, he's going to show

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  up and it was unstoppable. When the Falcons got one stop to start the second half and it felt huge.

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  Yeah.

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  It was like, wow, that's crazy that they were able to stop the Bengals somehow.

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  Oh, and when Jamar Chase isn't doing it, T. Higgins also had two touchdowns.

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  Right.

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  And it's just, they're just on a different level right now. And I don't, I, like I said, watch out. The Bengals one seed like is very much live. They're really, really good. They have the big Sunday night game next weekend against the Steelers. Then they have some more winnable games. Like I think it's Steelers and Chiefs on the rest of their schedule that are games that they wouldn't, I mean, they'll be favored against Steelers because it's in Cincy, but they're just playing at a unstoppable level on offense.

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  I thought, I thought Joe Burrow moved around the pocket really, really well.

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  Yeah.

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  Like he, he looks as good as he's ever been. That first half was unbelievable football.

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  Yeah, it was. Uh, all right. So the Falcons, PFT, you're a Falcon rider. They're, thank the good news for the Falcons. The, the good news for the Falcons.

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  Millennial Falcon.

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  Yeah. You're Millennial Falcon. You're, the, the good news for the Falcons is, uh, again, we're taping this before Sunday night football. As of this taping, they are in last place, but they are tied for the same amount of wins as everyone else in the NFC South. Everyone in the NFC South is three and five. The Falcons are three and six. It's pretty insane, uh, that we're sitting here and the Falcons are like, looked like dog shit and they still are like, hey, we could easily win the NFC South. Do you think that's a possibility? Because their defense is bad and Michael Pennix, uh, I know, I'm not going to put it all on him, but whenever he, there's pressure on him, he just, he completely flounders. He, he's not, he, he can't, I know a lot of quarterbacks you could say that for, but for him especially,

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  it feels like when he's pressured, it just all falls apart.

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  I think it's about the Falcons getting into a good offensive rhythm early because if they don't.

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  They went up seven, nothing.

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  Right. But I'm saying like on, I think it was their second drive. I know it was on their third drive. They just like overload with penalties. They get.

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  Yeah. They had a lot of penalties.

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  They get behind the sticks and then their playbook is not open. The, the only way, the Falcons offense is good under a very, very strict set of circumstances when they're able to run the ball heavily. Then then Pennix can play good. Today, we saw them getting behind. The penalties put them in a lot of situations where it just wasn't possible to run the ball. And then the game got away from them. They had to press and then when they they they're not good enough to be able to like go into panic mode and press and still play good. Everything has to be perfect for the Falcons and when it is.

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  That's not good.

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  Yeah, I know.

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  That's not a good team. Yeah.

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  Yeah, but they don't have to be good to win that division necessarily. I just think that um this is a very bad game for them. I don't think that they're a great team by any stretch of the imagination. But I I wouldn't say that their offense is like is dead or their defense is like completely hopeless for the remainder of the season. I think the Bengals are just really fucking good.

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  Yeah, but the Fal- I mean, they only Falcons only have three wins. It's like they they've had they've had a they've had the Packers game and the and the 49ers game. They looked awesome. They, you know, they they played games where they've looked. I know that last week was in a monsoon against the Bucks, but they looked awful in that game.

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  They did.

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  Uh, you know, they they just, I don't know, looking like I think those those Packers and 49ers wins feel like anomalies almost where it's like those are good teams. They beat them, but they've also just been they've gotten trounced by other teams. And I I don't know. It's Michael Pennix. Like I said, he's so I I looked it up. He was one for nine for minus three yards and interception when pressured today.

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  Yeah.

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  He is on the season 18% completion percentage when pressured, which is the worst since 2009 for starting quarterback. And Bijan is still awesome. He's still like he was he was ripping runs and he's still one of the hardest guys to like tackle in space and bring down in space. But yeah, they just, you're right. Like it feels like they have to play perfect and the penalties did kill them.

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  Yeah.

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  Do we want to talk? And we love Kevin Stefanski, but I don't know about that field goal attempt at the end of the game. And it was there was some time left. So there was 11 minutes left in the game. They got a penalty backed up to fourth and 12 at the Cincy 20. They're down 14 points, 31 17. Nick Folk comes out, misses a field goal.

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  Yeah.

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  I feel like you got it. I mean, you you're gonna need to. You're gonna need two touchdowns. Like you're gonna like a field goal. Where are you gonna get two field goals and and a touchdown and a two point conversion and stop the Bengals? I just you're there. I know it's fourth and 12 and that sucks. But I I feel like that's you have to go for that. You have to go for that.

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  I agree. I think you should have gone for it there. It was like him trying to extend the game and like put off his own death sentence and it's not. You see fourth and 12 and it gets in your head. And then the fact that Folk missed it, he I think that's his first time missing a kick that was like 40 yards or under and I don't know, some crazy. It was some streak that they were on. They actually said it afterwards. It was like, oh, he hasn't done this in like five years or whatever. So it was unlike him to miss the kick regardless of if he made it, though. I I think it was the wrong call. I agree with that.

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  Nick Folk, I mean, he just turned 42 a few few days ago. Yeah, I think he missed his birthday.

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  I did.

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  Yeah.

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  My bad, Nick.

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  November 5.

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  He missed that field goal. I also think that if uh if there's one game that could have prepared the Falcons less to play the Bengals, it's what happened last week to the Bucks.

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  Yeah.

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  That's like two different species of football.

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  Yeah, they got the zero passes completed against them last week and today it was Joe Burrow just ripping them to shreds. By the way, I we glossed over it, but it is pretty crazy that Jamar Chase, how good he is. T. Higgins is second in reception yards and second in touchdowns. Like that's that's their second wide receiver.

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  Yeah.

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  And he's he's second in the league in both of those categories. It's pretty nuts. And it's it's fun to watch the Bengals when they're like the team is, you know, I feel like they've had just the weirdest seasons from hell ever since they went to the Super Bowl. And now it feels like everything's kind of on the right track here and they're fun watch. Very fun.

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  It does look good for him. I was saying in the cave earlier, I I had a dream last night. And in this dream, the Bengals and the Jaguars were playing in the AFC Championship game. And it was halftime and it was a tie score.

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  Remind me, what was your last dream bet? I can't remember.

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  I think I'm like two for three lifetime on dream bets.

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  Okay.

• 25:18Speaker 01

  When I have a very specific dream.

• 25:20Speaker 00

  Wait, so what was the what was the situation?

• 25:22Speaker 01

  Jags Bengals halftime.

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  Where?

• 25:24Speaker 01

  Uh, I don't. I don't remember who the home team was. They were both wearing home uniforms.

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  Okay.

• 25:28Speaker 01

  Um, so.

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  That's confusing.

• 25:30Speaker 01

  It's very confusing, but still it was a clear as day dream. I woke up and it was the Jaguars Bengals fresh in my head. Tie score. Don't know what the score was. Uh, halftime AFC Championship game. So just think about.

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  Wow.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  The universe talks to you in funny ways. Sometimes you just have to listen.

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  I think this is the second to last uh international game. Next week is the last one.

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  Oh, yeah.

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  Going to Germany. Hank, you're gonna have to wake up for that one.

• 25:54Speaker 05

  Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've been I've been up for all of these.

• 25:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, Jamar Chase in Spain.

• 25:59Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 25:59Speaker 01

  Was that a scheduled tweet? Did you schedule that one?

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  No.

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  No, it was actually perfect. I saw it because it was perfectly timed for when he was in Spain.

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  He was in Spain.

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  He was in Spain. You guys kept saying that. I didn't understand it until I read Hank's tweet when he.

• 26:13Speaker 01

  Well, so it's it rhymes with insane.

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  I know.

• 26:15Speaker 01

  But it's also.

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  But you just kept saying in Spain. I was like, yeah, I know he's in Spain. Be careful, Max. This is this is all going in in Wesley Bryan's folder of calling us idiots. So let's let's keep it. I think I think we're smart guys. Now, I think we're idiots, but we maybe get to that later. Tomato to moth. Uh, all right. Anything else from this game? I I mean, it was cool stadium. You're right, PFT. Really cool stadium.

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  Yeah.

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  Also, I liked Bijan was like when he scored, did he? I think he scored.

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  He hugged the mascot.

• 26:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, the mascot that didn't have legs. It was like a it was like a just a I don't even know what it was. It was like an Angry Bird Falcon.

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  It was like an inflatable balloon Falcon.

• 26:52Speaker 00

  I kind of liked it.

• 26:53Speaker 01

  It was cool.

• 26:53Speaker 00

  Maybe we should get more mascots without legs.

• 26:56Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 26:57Speaker 00

  I don't know. Something different. I feel like we haven't had any real innovations in the mascot game in a while. So why not just be like, hey, you know what? We are mascots. So I it was cute.

• 27:07Speaker 01

  It's just a big ball. Yeah, it's just a giant ball of bird.

• 27:10Speaker 00

  Falcon is a pretty ferocious thing. They made it very friendly by just making it inflatable. You're looking for his uh I don't know. I can't remember if he scored or if it was just running up to the Falcon.

• 27:20Speaker 01

  I I also loved how Joe Burrow pretty much did like a commercial for the international games after the game. He is very much a Hank disciple when it comes to to growing the game. He said, I wanted to come out and put on a show for everybody and show the excitement of the NFL can be. And the NFL is about stars and players making big time plays. You saw a lot of great players out there doing great things. I love this stadium. I love putting on a show to the people of Spain. Was happy to be there.

• 27:46Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 27:47Speaker 01

  It does sound like straight up just propaganda from from Goodell's desk like.

• 27:51Speaker 00

  You got an extra. Maybe he won't get a.

• 27:53Speaker 05

  Well, it's true. You were in Baton Rouge this fucking weekend. You're probably like, I love Baton Rouge. I love you guys. Like, this is great to be here. Like, that's what you do when you go on the road and you play shows.

• 28:01Speaker 01

  The Spain of America.

• 28:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, the little Falcon. Yeah, you like that? It's pretty cool. He's got little short stubby legs. It's just a Falcon head.

• 28:08Speaker 01

  He's hopping around.

• 28:08Speaker 00

  That's sick for that Falcon. Yeah. I wonder, do you think that's a Spanish dude? He's worked his whole life to be. I think it was a Spanish. I think this I think Spain did their own mascot.

• 28:17Speaker 01

  That might be their mascot. Like that. That's normally the Real Madrid mascot, maybe that like he goes both ways. He can be a soccer mascot because that guy looks like he's used to being a soccer ball.

• 28:27Speaker 00

  I kind of like if the, you know what, Hank? I might come around to the international games if it's bring your own mascot. If they if they have to provide their own mascots because it did feel very European to me.

• 28:37Speaker 01

  That's a Falcon mascot. I don't want.

• 28:39Speaker 00

  Oh, it is?

• 28:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:40Speaker 00

  All right. So then fuck it. I hate the European.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  I didn't want to ruin that for you.

• 28:43Speaker 00

  No, that's fine. That's a piece of ham. That's a mascot. This is the Real Sociedad mascot.

• 28:48Speaker 01

  Oh, that's the that's the uh Hamonabirico.

• 28:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's Hamon.

• 28:52Speaker 01

  Melt's in your mouth.

• 28:53Speaker 00

  Dude, edible mascots would actually be sick.

• 28:55Speaker 01

  Pop tart bowl.

• 28:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. But if they were like walking around the stands and people were just grabbing pieces of it.

• 29:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, that'd be cool.

• 29:01Speaker 00

  That'd be awesome.

• 29:02Speaker 01

  One thing I love about that stadium that I I could not believe when I went there is you look around, there's no advertisements. There's no like signage in the stadium anywhere. It's just.

• 29:12Speaker 00

  Like North Korea?

• 29:12Speaker 01

  It's just people. They don't have advertisements. I think, well, they.

• 29:15Speaker 00

  Why are you saying it like that?

• 29:16Speaker 01

  What?

• 29:17Speaker 00

  Advertisements?

• 29:17Speaker 01

  Advertisements?

• 29:18Speaker 00

  Advertisements.

• 29:19Speaker 01

  Is that how you say?

• 29:20Speaker 00

  No.

• 29:20Speaker 01

  Organizations?

• 29:22Speaker 00

  North Korea doesn't have like any. They don't have anything.

• 29:26Speaker 01

  Maybe just pictures of your leader.

• 29:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, but they don't have like you don't walk around North Korea seeing an ad for you know, the new Apple show.

• 29:34Speaker 01

  In the stadium, sometimes sometimes you lose perspective on like just how many ads are are everywhere and how much signage is everywhere at every stadium. Until you go there and you look around, it's just nice and clean.

• 29:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:46Speaker 01

  Nothing but the people.

• 29:47Speaker 00

  That is cool. Although I do like whenever there's old pictures of uh like stadiums in like the 80s and all the the ads are just cigarettes.

• 29:55Speaker 01

  Yeah. Bring that.

• 29:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's that. That's what we did it.

• 29:59Speaker 01

  Bring that back.

• 30:00Speaker 00

  No Jumbotron.

• 30:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, P funk.

• 30:02Speaker 00

  Uh, okay. Next up, Broncos 26 Panthers 21. The Broncos are good. Also, the Panthers might have gotten screwed a little bit in this game. I'll I'll be the first to admit it. There was that interception in the end zone that uh was a crazy, crazy bounce. I think I think it was Devon Key who got who ended up picking it off. But it was like the NFL account was tweeting it out being like, look at this crazy interception, just not acknowledging the blatant P I. That was happening while the interception was happening.

• 30:35Speaker 01

  Mm hmm. I feel like the, the voice of the NFL Twitter account on Sundays has changed.

• 30:41Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 30:41Speaker 01

  And this one, it's like, almost like a little spicy.

• 30:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  They operate with, with some zest to them now where they, they might've even put that up there just knowing that it would get a lot of engagement because it was such an egregious penalty that was missed.

• 30:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. I think like Ian Rappaport tweeted out was getting ratioed to hell because it is like, you, you can't tweet that out being like, what a crazy interception and not mention the fact that he's getting pulled to the ground.

• 31:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:02Speaker 00

  But yeah, this was a game that was, it was like back and forth, like the, the Broncos jumped all over the Panthers, then Bo Nix throws a pick, which was really, I mean, it, it was a, a pick, but it was also just an insane play by the defensive back for the Panthers. I think it was Corey Thornton, uh, like jumping out and I love, those are some of my favorite interceptions when a, when a, it happened in the BYU Utah game where, uh, a guy like leaps in the air so high and you just didn't see him there.

• 31:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:30Speaker 00

  And he can like, he like, like the pass isn't necessarily terrible. It's just the defensive back makes such an incredible play on the ball. So then the Panthers scored like Bryce Young started to get hot and then we had this, this no P I. And the Broncos survive and they, I mean, Nick Benito with the strip sack at the end of the game. He's an absolute monster. Broncos are just good. They're the, there, there's a lot of teams that I feel like are going to just keep winning games. They were like, how do they keep doing this? Broncos are at the top of the list. They're just good. That's the answer. They're just a good football team.

• 32:02Speaker 01

  So the, the crazy stat is, um, that they, the Broncos have won 16 straight one score games. So like you can say, you can say up to a certain point, the Broncos are lucky and there's always like a small amount of luck that's involved. If you win more than your fair share of one score games, but to do it 16 times in a row, it tells me that you just, you thrive in the high pressure, like balls to the wall, nut cutting time situations where like one balance makes a difference one way or the other. It's also a, a mark of very, very good coaching.

• 32:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:34Speaker 01

  That's on the detail. So the Broncos are just good. They do happen to get lucky sometimes, but the harder you work, the luckier you get, I guess.

• 32:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, they, I, they, it was another, like they, I think they were, they were technically trailing going into the fourth quarter. They had the ball, but they again, like Bo Nix, he's 11 and one in the past two seasons went down one to eight points in the fourth quarter, 11 and one. That's crazy. The league, the league average win percentage in those spots is, uh, 30%. Bo Nix is 11 and one. So I don't know. You keep, and, and I do think Bo's playing better. Like he, he feels like he's letting it rip a little bit more. Did you see he, he absolutely deeked out the cameraman, which I think we need to get stats going now where we should have like, when, when

• 33:20Speaker 00

  they intro a game, it should be like, and operating the sideline cam is like, you know, Kevin, he has been deeked out four times in the last five games, just so that we're ready for it.

• 33:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:31Speaker 00

  Like there are definitely some camera guys that are just, they're not good at it and they get just, like this cameraman, his ankles got broken. I know he didn't move, but Bo Nix broke his ankles with the way he was moving his camera when he pump faked and just went wildly downfield. Bo Nix was like 20 yards away from the camera.

• 33:47Speaker 01

  Yeah. And that said, the, uh, the referee in this, or not the ref, the cameraman, the Spain game today really put on a show because the European cameraman have been bad.

• 33:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:56Speaker 01

  Like soccer cameramen.

• 33:57Speaker 00

  Yes, they have.

• 33:58Speaker 01

  That tap in and they, they do American football for a weekend. You're right. That was a great play by Bo Nix. I, I like seeing that. To me, that's a mark of a.

• 34:04Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, I mean, he was, it was incompletion, but yeah, the, the.

• 34:07Speaker 01

  But it's a good pump fake. It's a great.

• 34:08Speaker 00

  Pump fake the cameraman so hard. And I think we need, we need stats being like, hey, this cameraman has not been pump faked in 15 weeks.

• 34:16Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 34:16Speaker 00

  And then, and then quarterbacks can try to get them.

• 34:19Speaker 01

  You know what I also like is, uh, when a, uh, a punt returner fakes out the cameraman, we're doing like a fake fair catch, getting ready to catch it.

• 34:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:27Speaker 01

  And then the ball like lands in the end zone.

• 34:28Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 34:29Speaker 01

  That's, that's another good one.

• 34:30Speaker 00

  Yeah. But the Broncos are good. I, I am a little, so the Panthers, yeah, I mean, the Panthers defense, they fired their, their defensive coordinator, uh, during the bye week. Did, doesn't feel like it got much better. I don't know what the next move is after that. Uh, Bryce Young, I know we had the conversation Friday. I thought Bryce Young was like fine for the majority of this game. He, his offensive line is really, really bad. And it's like, you can, there's something about a, a shorter quarterback when their offensive line fails them. They just, they look so helpless. So.

• 34:59Speaker 01

  You want to save them.

• 34:59Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's like a difference than like Justin Herbert will basically, his offensive line will fail him, but he'll fight his way through it to the point where you don't, you stop blaming his offensive line. Bryce Young, I'm like, someone, someone arrest these men, someone arrest Nick Benito. This is not fair.

• 35:16Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's mean. It just, it looks mean. You're right. When, when Herbert does it and he'll like shrug off a, a would be tackler. He'll step up, get hit like five times, keep running, then.

• 35:25Speaker 00

  Still throw.

• 35:25Speaker 01

  Then get destroyed as he throws a pick.

• 35:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:27Speaker 01

  You're like looking in battle, but dude, come on, that's trash. And then Bryce Young, yeah, he, he just gets like knocked the fuck out the first time.

• 35:33Speaker 00

  He's run, blow a whistle and be like, stop it guys. This is not fair. Like these guys are 300 pounds and, and no one's protecting Bryce Young.

• 35:40Speaker 01

  And I, I think most people understood what we were saying about Bryce Young. We don't think that he's a bad quarterback.

• 35:44Speaker 00

  No.

• 35:44Speaker 01

  In fact, like kind of the opposite. We think that he, this is a great, if you were to flashback to like year two of Bryce Young.

• 35:50Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 35:51Speaker 01

  Panthers fans would be killing to be having that conversation of would you or would you not extend Bryce Young?

• 35:57Speaker 00

  It's just, there's that, like, it's so hard in the league and there's so few elite quarterbacks and you have to give, when you get to this point in their like process, you know, their, their contracts, like, all right, you gotta give them a shitload of money. CJ Stroud, same thing. Like CJ Stroud's played really well this year, but there was moments where you're like, are we, are the Texas, like if CJ Stroud, the answer was yes, he probably would have already had his contract, right?

• 36:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:21Speaker 00

  So, uh, but yeah, I, the Panthers, same as the Falcons. You lost, you got three wins, you're still in it. The NFC South is, we, we talk about the NFC East. The NFC South is a fucking joke. And I know that I'm saying this all before Sunday night football kicks off. So I might look like an idiot in a matter of an hour. And I've already said, this is a tricky spot for the Bears, but even if the Bucks win tonight, the, it's crazy. These teams, Zach, defend yourself, defend your division.

• 36:49Speaker 01

  It's anybody's division. That's the beauty of the division.

• 36:52Speaker 00

  It's hilarious looking at the standings.

• 36:54Speaker 01

  This though.

• 36:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. But it's, but it seems Hank, look at the standings. Tell me this is, it doesn't look especially bad this year. Just look at the standings. The Bucks are in first place at three and five.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:05Speaker 00

  Three and five, three and five, three and five, three. The, the Saints got a massive win today that propelled them to third place in the division and very much in striking distance.

• 37:17Speaker 01

  It's going to be chaos. It's going to cut down to.

• 37:18Speaker 00

  First place.

• 37:19Speaker 01

  Tied for first.

• 37:20Speaker 00

  That's, that's kind of like.

• 37:20Speaker 05

  This is, they've had, they've had someone in this division go to the playoffs with a losing record.

• 37:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:25Speaker 05

  Well, that's like, that's just like.

• 37:26Speaker 01

  Divisions have had that over the years.

• 37:28Speaker 05

  But I feel like the NFC South is known the most.

• 37:30Speaker 01

  It's in their DNA.

• 37:31Speaker 05

  They just generally being not that good.

• 37:32Speaker 01

  It's in their DNA and.

• 37:34Speaker 00

  But it should count against the SEC's record, actually.

• 37:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:37Speaker 00

  When you're thinking about it, this should be.

• 37:40Speaker 05

  Say what you want, but it keeps it fun. You always have a shot.

• 37:42Speaker 00

  The NFC North should count as the big 10's record and the, and the NFC South should be the SEC.

• 37:46Speaker 04

  The NFC East is significantly better than.

• 37:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We, we joke about it. It's like, the NFC South is, again, I'm probably burying myself right now.

• 37:58Speaker 04

  The Cowboys would be in first place in.

• 38:01Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We, we do joke about, but it is like the, it, we're used to the NFC South having that. That's like par for the course for them. And the NFC East, we're, we're just kind of like tapping into that culture for, for a year, then we'll be out next year. It's really the Eagles. That's when we joke about the NFC East, the joke is just like the Eagles are bad this year.

• 38:19Speaker 00

  Right.

• 38:19Speaker 01

  Because when they're not, then they dominate. It's actually a pro Eagles sentiment that I'm sharing right now, Max.

• 38:25Speaker 04

  Yeah. Go Birds.

• 38:26Speaker 00

  Panthers have this, at the Saints, the Ravens, and then at Tampa Bay, basically going to find out, well, actually no, I, I was going to say, we're going to find out the, like where their season's going in the next three games, but actually no, because they could go one and two and still be very much alive.

• 38:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:41Speaker 00

  As long as one of those wins is in the NFC South.

• 38:43Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 38:44Speaker 00

  They're like, it's crazy.

• 38:46Speaker 01

  I keep wondering if, if the Broncos are going to find a rushing attack.

• 38:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. Did you see the picture of Jonah Coleman?

• 38:53Speaker 01

  I did. Yeah.

• 38:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. He got, he got, he just, he stuck his gut out and then he sucked in.

• 38:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. I don't know. What, what was the, what was the purpose behind that picture? It was just like, hey, this is when he decided he was going to start losing weight.

• 39:03Speaker 00

  It was, it was a picture they showed on the broadcast, Jonah Coleman, the Broncos running back who looked fat. And then it was like eight weeks later, he's not fat. It's like, okay, he's a professional athlete. Why, why was he ever fat?

• 39:15Speaker 01

  He also looked like he, he grew like eight inches.

• 39:17Speaker 00

  Yeah. But also it's your job to not be fat.

• 39:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's.

• 39:22Speaker 00

  That, that would make sense that you would be in good shape to play in the national football.

• 39:26Speaker 01

  You'd think so. Yeah.

• 39:28Speaker 00

  He was, I mean, yeah, he scored today. He had a nice touchdown run.

• 39:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. He's pretty good. If they can get the ground game cooking, then I would, I would fully believe in the Broncos.

• 39:35Speaker 00

  Do we think Sean Payton is losing it a little bit after the press conference where he accused the reporter of smoking and, uh, the reporter was like, I'm just chewing on my pencil.

• 39:45Speaker 01

  Um.

• 39:47Speaker 00

  That is. That happened.

• 39:48Speaker 01

  That is a sound of a stroke, right? When you smell toast.

• 39:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. I don't know if he smelled it or if he just was like, he saw the reporter, but the reporter was like, yeah, Sean, this is a, uh, coach, this is a pencil. And, uh, he's like, oh shit, I owe you one. Oh, oh, by the way, we buried the lead, biggest story of the entire game. The, the corgi that got loose that, that juke out like two different guys.

• 40:10Speaker 04

  That corgi broke like 15 tackles.

• 40:13Speaker 00

  That's an American corgi.

• 40:14Speaker 04

  That corgi rocks.

• 40:16Speaker 01

  That corgi had some wiggle to it. That was, uh, I want to hear Chris Berman do, do the call of that.

• 40:20Speaker 00

  They, they had the, uh, the stat on the NFL network. So Lennox, the corgi had six broken tackles today. Chuba Hubbard had six, Jonah Coleman had six, Jalen Coker two, Tommy trouble two. So he led the entire game in, in broken tackles.

• 40:34Speaker 01

  I, I'm going to say that was bad pursuit. It was bad pursuit by the people and, and also why were they trying to tackle this thing?

• 40:41Speaker 00

  Right.

• 40:41Speaker 01

  If they, if they had connected on one of these hits.

• 40:44Speaker 00

  You could kill them.

• 40:44Speaker 01

  That corgi's hips are going to turn into dust.

• 40:46Speaker 00

  Cosette.

• 40:48Speaker 05

  How else would you stop?

• 40:49Speaker 00

  I thought she climbed under there for warmth.

• 40:51Speaker 05

  How else are you supposed to stop?

• 40:52Speaker 01

  You grab, you just like grab it.

• 40:54Speaker 00

  Pick it up.

• 40:54Speaker 01

  The scruff.

• 40:55Speaker 00

  Also, why don't, why don't we have a treat? Someone just give, be like, hey, dog. Hey, corgi.

• 40:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, dude. That guy like laid on it.

• 41:02Speaker 01

  They could have killed that thing.

• 41:03Speaker 00

  What an awesome corgi though. Did he win the race?

• 41:06Speaker 04

  Yes. Doesn't matter what the actual.

• 41:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, he did. He got, he got free. For a minute there, he was, he, he had the greatest life of all time because he, he had gotten free from his handlers and he had an entire NFL stadium captivated with his moves.

• 41:21Speaker 04

  The best is when he, he ran away and then he had nothing but green in front of.

• 41:26Speaker 05

  Of them and he just turned around.

• 41:27Speaker 01

  Just daylight.

• 41:28Speaker 05

  He was like, he was like, this is too easy. I gotta give you guys a little bit of a chance to try and catch me.

• 41:33Speaker 01

  A little bit of showboat.

• 41:34Speaker 00

  Just falling all over. Imagine if this was like a cattle dog or something, they would still be chasing it.

• 41:40Speaker 01

  Dude. Yeah, I was, I'm telling you, that was a, that was a dangerous situation. I'm glad everybody got out of there healthy. Uh, but yeah, that good thing. It wasn't a Falcons game. You got Mike Vick out there chasing.

• 41:49Speaker 05

  That Corgi should have AFC or NFC player of the week votes.

• 41:53Speaker 00

  Absolutely. Yeah. Corgis, by the way, I'm, I'm starting to, I'm starting to get in on Corgis just because they've been, I feel like just having a dog that's just so funny and being like, yeah, you're, you're bred to be raced at halftime of our sporting events in America. Like, good for you, Corgi.

• 42:08Speaker 01

  They're the new Greyhounds.

• 42:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, there's a lot of dogs that, that will never see the fame. Like if you're a dog, what are you hoping to be? Like, I think one, one would be a bulldog being like Uga. Like that would be a pretty sick life or you know, if you're not Uga, maybe it could be the Mississippi State, you know, uh, mascot. So a dog being a mascot is, is up there, but then after that, it's probably Corgi racing dog.

• 42:34Speaker 01

  You could, uh, be a, like a Belgian Malinois and go kill terrorists.

• 42:38Speaker 00

  That would be cool.

• 42:39Speaker 01

  That'd be kind of cool.

• 42:39Speaker 00

  That also is like kind of work.

• 42:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, but they love that shit.

• 42:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:43Speaker 05

  The Buffalo mascot would be sick.

• 42:45Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Ralphie.

• 42:46Speaker 05

  Ralphie.

• 42:47Speaker 00

  We're talking dogs, but yeah, we could talk.

• 42:48Speaker 05

  I'm just talking about animals. Yeah.

• 42:50Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, I think.

• 42:51Speaker 00

  You know Ralphie's a girl.

• 42:52Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 42:53Speaker 05

  Love it.

• 42:53Speaker 01

  I think the mascot at.

• 42:54Speaker 05

  You should get a Corgi.

• 42:55Speaker 01

  At Texas A and M.

• 42:56Speaker 00

  You should get a Corgi Hank.

• 42:58Speaker 05

  Yeah. No, I'm not. I won't, but yeah, you hate dogs. Oh, fuck.

• 43:02Speaker 01

  The A and M mascot I think has like a rank in the military.

• 43:04Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. They, that A and M mascot like sleeps in a bed.

• 43:07Speaker 01

  You have to salute it.

• 43:08Speaker 00

  They like make its bed for him.

• 43:09Speaker 01

  And then if it barks or something, you get the day off class. I forget. It's got rules. Yeah.

• 43:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's like one of those things when A and M people are like, hey, we're not a cult and like, but don't you guys like pray to a dog?

• 43:19Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, worship. Yeah. Or yeah, it's more of like a chain of command thing, but yeah.

• 43:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. But Corgis, they really are, they're, they're doing it right now.

• 43:28Speaker 01

  They got it made.

• 43:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. This is the second time we talked about Corgis.

• 43:32Speaker 01

  I think they're pretty, uh, pretty sturdy dogs too. I don't think that they, do they have health problems?

• 43:37Speaker 00

  Uh, I don't know. I think they probably, I think like they're, maybe their backs.

• 43:41Speaker 01

  Maybe the super inbred ones.

• 43:43Speaker 00

  I feel like they're not built genetically perfectly.

• 43:47Speaker 01

  They're perfect to me.

• 43:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they're, actually they are kind of perfect. When you think about a Corgi, they, they, their height, they basically are always getting belly rubs just walking around.

• 43:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:59Speaker 00

  Their belly's just scratching the ground.

• 44:01Speaker 01

  Yep. And then if they get too fat, it's like, they're just, they just lay.

• 44:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:05Speaker 01

  Cause their, their feet, like their belly is as long as their feet.

• 44:08Speaker 00

  But shout out Lennox Corgi, cause he, yeah, I don't know how a dog with that, that shorter legs can break tackles like he did, but he was awesome.

• 44:15Speaker 01

  Superstar.

• 44:16Speaker 00

  He might be the running game for the Broncos.

• 44:18Speaker 01

  They need something.

• 44:19Speaker 00

  Yeah. Um, okay.

• 44:23Speaker 00

  Rams 20, commanders 13, B F T, Miles Garrett. Turns out he's still really fucking good because this was the whole thing with the Rams where it's like, hey, once they get Miles Garrett back and Miles Garrett, Naren Donald, like this is going to be insane. And it was insane because he had three sacks and I think he had 35 total snaps. Absolute game wrecker. That's scary.

• 44:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. I, I think the game really changed on, uh, Jaden had that first loss fumble of the year in the second quarter. Like two plays after we got a turnover and then I said to Jerry, this has been like the most complete half of football that I've seen from the commanders.

• 45:01Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 45:01Speaker 01

  And then, uh, Jaden fumbles and then the game kind of goes downhill at that point. But yeah, Miles Garrett was, he was a game wrecker at the end. Uh, we could not operate without him getting like extreme amounts of pressure and everything felt more difficult. Once he got into pass rush situations and he was impossible to stop. I think that, uh, going back to the start of the year, training camp, when Laramie Tunsil ruptured his pet, that was a, a, a big, big, big difference for this team where we don't have like an all pro guy. That's, um, setting the tone, the run game, and also able to go up against one of the premier pass rushers. Like we're never going to be able to have a guy that's going to be able to stop Miles Garrett, uh, with, with tons allowed for the season. So

• 45:42Speaker 01

  there's a lot of holes on this team. We're, we're a flawed football team right now and we kind of have been for the entire year. So the defense looked better for most of the game, but we could not stop the spam Puka Nakua play.

• 45:53Speaker 00

  Oh, he's so good.

• 45:54Speaker 01

  And we, everyone in the stadium knew that the ball was going to him. In fact, there were a lot of third downs where, uh, it was like third and short. Where we knew that the ball wasn't, e- even if they weren't going to throw it to Puka, they would end up handing the ball off to Puka Nakua to get a first down. He got wrecked by the way, on the last offensive play that they had.

• 46:11Speaker 00

  So stupid.

• 46:13Speaker 01

  Very stupid. And.

• 46:14Speaker 00

  Puka Nakua has been injured basically every single year, like, and fought through stuff and it's third and 11, you're just trying to run out the clock and you're like, yeah, let's do an end around to Puka Nakua.

• 46:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, because he was, he was their entire offense today.

• 46:26Speaker 00

  Yeah. And 14 catches, 150 yards, two rushes for 20 yards.

• 46:30Speaker 01

  We could not stop Puka Nakua at all today. Uh, that was the, the difference of the game. I thought overall, it was a very average game from most, like, nobody really stood out as having a terrible game for the commanders. It was just kind of, I think the better football team won, the more prepared football team won. Uh, I was thinking that if you were to substitute Dan Quinn and Sean McVay, if you were to swap at the start of the season, I think you, I think each team would have the other team's record. That's what I think the difference in coaching is from good coaching to bad coaching. Cause I don't think that the Rams are a great team. I, I still like, I'm not that impressed with them. Uh, but they've got a really good coach that prepares them for just about every situation.

• 47:13Speaker 01

  And, uh, now that they got Miles Garrett back, they probably would have a few guys. I don't, I still don't know if they're going to make the playoffs, but um, they are a, an average football team with a really, really good coach and an experienced quarterback. And, uh, yeah, I, I actually didn't think that Matt Stafford played particularly well today.

• 47:29Speaker 00

  He hasn't this year.

• 47:30Speaker 01

  Uh, but they've, they're, they're going to be an above average team. I don't think that's going to be good enough for them to make the playoffs. I think they're too far behind now.

• 47:37Speaker 00

  I, I think they could still make the playoffs. There's going to be, I mean, the, as soon as like, it's basically going to come down to can they win in the, in the division? Because the NFC North, everyone has a good record right now, but everyone's got to play each other.

• 47:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:51Speaker 00

  So it's like, there's going to be, I know there's all this talk, like someone, Seahawks or the Rams, it feels like are going to make the playoffs. It's just which one can basically, probably the head to head games are going to decide it.

• 48:02Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 48:02Speaker 00

  Because once, once everyone in the NFC North starts playing each other, it's like there's going to be, it, it just is going to happen. So I, I still, I still think the Rams, I mean, Puka might being hurt. He's got an MRI on Monday. Could be very, very bad because they built the whole offense out of them. I still think the Rams are, are a dangerous team, especially if you look at like that. I mean, there are even their losses, like they, they, they haven't, you know, they lost to the Bills and what was that, uh, Monday night football? Was that overtime? Remember they lost to the Bills, they lost to, to the Broncos. Week one was bad. The only one that was like a real head scratcher was the Cardinals loss. Because there are other games like I, you can, I mean, the Bills and the Niners are, are two of the best teams in, in the NFL and the Broncos.

• 48:46Speaker 00

  Bills, Niners, Broncos are, are some of the best teams. And, and besides the Niners, they were, they lost by one, you know, less than a touchdown to both those teams. So I still think the Rams are good. I just, they just have to find a way to be healthy and have Puka play and Devante Adams come back.

• 49:01Speaker 01

  I think, um, Blake Corum was pretty impressive today. He's been to me, the, the better of the two running backs for the last year or so.

• 49:07Speaker 00

  That bounce out he had was pretty sick where he was dead and he had got like 15 yards off it. Where are you? So is the season over?

• 49:15Speaker 01

  I was going to say the season's over, but.

• 49:17Speaker 00

  Oh man.

• 49:18Speaker 01

  Thursday.

• 49:19Speaker 05

  We can't keep doing this, man.

• 49:22Speaker 01

  Watch me.

• 49:23Speaker 00

  He'll fucking do it.

• 49:24Speaker 01

  I'll do it. Keep, keep pushing me, Max. My opinions will just get worse.

• 49:29Speaker 00

  Alright.

• 49:30Speaker 01

  Um, Thursday night against the Giants. It's a big game. It's a big game. They're the top dog in the division. If we win that game, I'm going to say there's hope.

• 49:40Speaker 00

  Hank, do you think that he should say the season's over?

• 49:42Speaker 01

  If we lose, if we lose that game, we lose hope.

• 49:44Speaker 00

  What are your thoughts on?

• 49:46Speaker 05

  The season's over. I mean, they're, they're a bad team.

• 49:49Speaker 01

  Not very good.

• 49:50Speaker 05

  Jane's not great. Dan Quinn's not great.

• 49:53Speaker 01

  I think Jane played pretty good today. I think he, he's, he's played really well this season.

• 49:58Speaker 05

  Really?

• 49:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:59Speaker 05

  Really well?

• 49:59Speaker 00

  I don't know about really well. I think he was, he was good.

• 50:02Speaker 01

  I think he's played, he's played very good this season. Yeah.

• 50:05Speaker 05

  I would, I would say good.

• 50:07Speaker 01

  He's made, he's.

• 50:07Speaker 05

  I would say good. He's an NFL quarterback.

• 50:10Speaker 00

  I'd say alright.

• 50:10Speaker 01

  He's made some big mental errors in big spots.

• 50:14Speaker 00

  That, that would stop you from playing really well.

• 50:16Speaker 01

  That's what's so frustrating.

• 50:17Speaker 05

  You could still be good.

• 50:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, you could be good, but really well is you got to make those.

• 50:20Speaker 01

  It's like Blue Bell ice cream is delicious. Um, once every like 15 years, they have an outbreak of Listeria and like two people die. But it's still.

• 50:28Speaker 05

  But it seems like he's having more mistakes than once every 15 years.

• 50:31Speaker 01

  No, it's been like once every two weeks, like every other game, there's like a, a mental error that has stood out. Today, I don't think that you had that spot. He, I mean, the fumble is, it's not a great play, but that happens all the time. And he hasn't thrown an interception yet. I believe that was his first fumble that he's lost all season.

• 50:49Speaker 01

  So I think he's been playing well. I, I really do. It's just, we're, we're not a very good football team overall. The ground game.

• 50:54Speaker 00

  I mean, your offensive line sucks.

• 50:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. The offensive line stinks. The ground game was not there at all. Uh, we had no answer for Puka Nakua whatsoever. And then it was like salt in the womb to have Emmanuel Forbes tip up that pass on a, on fourth down. And then Dan Quinn continues to have the, the stupidest decision-making process of all time. He had one punt today. I, I believe that they were intentionally running the, the play clock out to get more room to punt with. So they ended up punting with eight and a half minutes left. They were down 13 to 20 and we had the ball on their 40 yard line. It was fourth and six. That ranks as the 99.9th percentile of the most cowardly punt since 1999.

• 51:36Speaker 01

  So like he, he continually makes the wrong mistakes. I just don't think he's a great head coach. I think that we will have a different head coach next year and, uh, probably a, a new play caller.

• 51:47Speaker 00

  Oh no.

• 51:48Speaker 01

  Well, the thing is David Blau.

• 51:49Speaker 00

  Blau rears?

• 51:50Speaker 01

  Yeah. David Blau, I think he'll probably be okay in the long run, uh, but he's learning on the job right now. And that's, you don't really want to do that in the NFL.

• 51:57Speaker 00

  No.

• 51:57Speaker 01

  I typically you'd want to hire a guy to call plays that, uh, is in final form of, of being equipped to do the job that he has. I think he'll be a good play caller one day. I just don't think that he is right now.

• 52:10Speaker 00

  Do you, I saw an insult stat, but I could change it. So it's not an insult stat. Do you want the not insult stat?

• 52:15Speaker 01

  No, I want to feel it. I want to feel it. Insult me.

• 52:18Speaker 00

  Okay. Uh, the commanders have won four games in the last 20.

• 52:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:25Speaker 00

  Here's the non insult part, which actually is an insult. Who those wins are against Tanner McKee. So you're two and oh against Tanner McKee.

• 52:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, the Tanner killers.

• 52:33Speaker 00

  Half your wins in the last 20 have been against Tanner McKee.

• 52:36Speaker 01

  Love that. I think the Eagles are like four and 13 in their last 17 games. It's not that far off. We're just three games off the Eagles.

• 52:44Speaker 05

  Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 52:47Speaker 01

  So that's pretty good.

• 52:48Speaker 05

  Yeah. This is totally normal Eagles team.

• 52:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:53Speaker 05

  We're at our fourth quarterback.

• 52:55Speaker 01

  Hey, you are who you are.

• 52:57Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 52:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. What you say your record says you are.

• 53:00Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 53:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're not, we're not a very good football team. And coincidentally, that's exactly what our record says right now. But no, I don't, I think that to pin this on Jade and like the record on Jade, I don't, I don't. If you watch the games, you would not, the quarterback would not be in the top 10 list of things that are wrong with this team.

• 53:17Speaker 00

  Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Okay. Uh, all right, let's do, I, I do the Miles Garrett, like that was. He's, it's crazy. Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald on the same line. We talked about it all offseason, but then seeing it was like, oh yeah, fuck. This is a problem.

• 53:32Speaker 01

  Especially when, when they know you're gonna throw the ball.

• 53:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 53:34Speaker 01

  Then you're kind of fucked. At other times in the game, you might be able to convince yourself, you can use him to like over pursue and there's a gap where you can run where he used to be, but like in a passing situation, you're fucked with those two on the same line. And also Hank, I'd like to apologize to you. I, I, I committed some snark against the Patriots last week. When I asked like why Gronkowski's jersey wasn't retired, all that stuff. Um, we retired John Riggins jersey today. Something that probably should have been done.

• 54:03Speaker 00

  Just finished playing.

• 54:04Speaker 01

  Probably should have been done about 40 years ago. Uh, so hand up. I got that one wrong.

• 54:09Speaker 05

  It happens.

• 54:10Speaker 01

  It happens. Uh, I was hoping that he was gonna wear like the full shoulder pads, helmet, pants, cause when they put him in the Ring of Honor. Uh, that's what he did that. He was like, I think 15 years out of the league and he got dressed up in like full uniform and ran out. I was hoping he would do that today. Uh, but it's, it's still, it's a long overdue. So congrats to we go.

• 54:30Speaker 00

  Uh, Jayden did say next week is a must win.

• 54:33Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 54:33Speaker 00

  So there you go.

• 54:34Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 54:35Speaker 00

  The gauntlet has been set.

• 54:36Speaker 05

  What happens if you lose that game?

• 54:38Speaker 00

  There's still a shot.

• 54:39Speaker 01

  There's no, there's no shot.

• 54:40Speaker 00

  Still a shot.

• 54:41Speaker 01

  I'm shotless at that point.

• 54:43Speaker 05

  But you said that going this week.

• 54:45Speaker 01

  No, no, I didn't. I said, if we win this week, uh, look out.

• 54:50Speaker 01

  That's what I said.

• 54:50Speaker 05

  So we're not looking yet.

• 54:52Speaker 01

  Don't look out. Yeah. You don't need to look out for anything.

• 54:53Speaker 00

  But yeah, you can cross the street. You don't have to.

• 54:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:56Speaker 05

  But Thursday, if you win.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  Don't even look. You, you're fine. Yeah. Uh, if we.

• 54:59Speaker 05

  No, Thursday, you're looking.

• 55:00Speaker 01

  No, it, no, Thursday, if we win, then I can see hope.

• 55:05Speaker 00

  Well, I think Thursday, if they, if the commanders win, then we're now another game away from a lookout.

• 55:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:12Speaker 00

  They have to, if they win Thursday, then, then the next game will be a lookout.

• 55:16Speaker 01

  It resets. Yeah. So if, if we win on Thursday.

• 55:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:19Speaker 01

  Then like I'm saying, I can see, I'm not, I don't have hope, but I can see hope and it's there in the distance and it's attainable. Hope, hope is not out of reach yet. Cause we beat the Giants, then I can see.

• 55:30Speaker 05

  You got mini buy.

• 55:31Speaker 01

  Then mini buy, then we play the Bengals and then if we beat the Bengals.

• 55:35Speaker 05

  On Monday night football?

• 55:36Speaker 00

  That's a lookout.

• 55:37Speaker 01

  Then if we beat.

• 55:37Speaker 05

  Bengals on Monday night football, that's lookout.

• 55:39Speaker 00

  They beat them.

• 55:40Speaker 01

  This is actually the biggest.

• 55:41Speaker 05

  I know what I'm saying.

• 55:42Speaker 01

  Thursday night against the Giants is the biggest game of the year for the commanders. It is. If we beat the Giants, then we get. Mini buy, Monday night football against the Bengals, we win that game, then look out because we got the Cards and the Titans. Back to back after that game. So look out.

• 55:59Speaker 05

  Look out.

• 56:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you can, you feel free to, feel free to look. You're, there's no hope right now.

• 56:05Speaker 05

  Are you? I won't say it.

• 56:08Speaker 01

  What?

• 56:09Speaker 05

  Cardinals are better than you.

• 56:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:13Speaker 05

  But the way you just said, you're like, then we got, we got the Cardinals and the Titans.

• 56:16Speaker 00

  I don't know. I think the Cardinals made a pretty big mistake making Gardner Minshew the starting quarterback. Should have kept him as the relief guy.

• 56:23Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 56:23Speaker 01

  I think, uh, either one of those teams look at, they look at the other team and they say.

• 56:28Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 56:29Speaker 01

  This should be a win for us.

• 56:30Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 56:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. There, there should be a word for that. Like when you get yourself in that situation where both teams. It's actually like a big, big choke job if you lose to the other team.

• 56:42Speaker 00

  Look out though.

• 56:43Speaker 01

  Just look out. If we, if we beat, if we beat the Giants, I can see hope and then look out.

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• 59:28Speaker 01

  Pervert watch is actually the nickname I have for the Browns quarterback depth chart.

• 59:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:32Speaker 01

  And we had watched that.

• 59:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, we did. We, Shadussy. So that was, so it was, it was six, six. Then the Saints took a nine, six lead and you're like, all right, that's the game.

• 59:43Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 59:43Speaker 00

  And then Shadus, fourth quarter Shadus, he got a little of that Deshaun Watson magic. Uh, hit that big shot to Casey Concepcion, which was awesome. And then the Saints were like, oh wait, I didn't know we were allowed to score touchdowns. And Tyler Shuck woke up and the Saints offense woke up and he was awesome on that last drive to go ahead. And then awesome in the OT drive. And the Saints feel like because they play in the NFC South, have life. They have life.

• 1:00:11Speaker 01

  This game, it did feel like whoever had a three point lead at any given time, that was like insurmountable. Like, because you, you, there are a couple of times you got inside the five. Turnover, inside the five, turnover. Neither team wanted to win. Um, Jordan Tyson, I completely forgot about him.

• 1:00:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:00:27Speaker 01

  Turns out, uh.

• 1:00:27Speaker 00

  Back.

• 1:00:28Speaker 01

  His hamstring's okay. So he played today. His very first catch, got inside the five yard line, fumbled. Not a great way to start the career, but I'm excited to see. Like now Shuck's got another weapon.

• 1:00:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:00:39Speaker 01

  So, um.

• 1:00:39Speaker 00

  No, he was sprinting. I mean, it was basically the Saints have done this every single week where they start so slow. It's just, they started so slow and it went into the fourth quarter. But then when they wake up and Shuck gets going, like he was using his legs, they were running the ball very well. Audrick Esteme.

• 1:00:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:55Speaker 00

  Like hitting Olave, Tyson, Juwan Johnson, like they, they look like a good offense.

• 1:01:01Speaker 01

  Yeah. I, I guess Chase Young, in bursts, he's still a dominant player. Like he, he does disappear sometimes. There have been a couple of games where you don't really hear his name much, but he's still got it. He played really well today. Those uniforms that the Saints were wearing were just terrible. Uh, they're like off white, yellowish, uh, cream colored uniforms with black helmets. Not great look.

• 1:01:22Speaker 00

  No, they're terrible.

• 1:01:23Speaker 01

  New Orleans.

• 1:01:24Speaker 00

  Terrible.

• 1:01:24Speaker 01

  Did we find out who got the game balls today?

• 1:01:26Speaker 00

  There was five game balls.

• 1:01:27Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:01:27Speaker 00

  Uh, Tyler Shuck got one. Hold on, I'll tell you all the game balls. Uh, so it was Tyler Shuck, Audrick Esteme, Chris Olave, Caden Ellis and Carl Granderson. All got game balls.

• 1:01:39Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:01:39Speaker 00

  Hank, you, uh, the Browns are part of the hungry dog.

• 1:01:44Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:01:45Speaker 00

  What was your experience? You actually were, you, you had this game on lock when, when there was that moment.

• 1:01:49Speaker 05

  It was six to six and I said, this game is gonna be a tie. I think I lie bet it to be a tie. I was thinking it was gonna be nine to nine. Like you were, you were right where it felt like it was gonna be a field goal. Could win this game. If not, it's gonna tie the game.

• 1:02:03Speaker 00

  It almost felt like they were playing by a set of rules. And then as soon as Casey Concepcion got his touchdown, they're like, oh shit. Like these aren't the rules anymore. We can try to score touchdowns here. Because there was even that play where. Shador actually like had some nice throws deep. He had that one that, uh, I can't remember who it was, got down, I think it was Boston, got down. At the like five and you perfectly predicted, you're like, they're not scoring a touchdown. They're like, they have to score a touchdown from 50 yards out. Otherwise they're not scoring a touchdown.

• 1:02:30Speaker 05

  They ran like 10 plays from inside the five yard line and didn't, didn't even really like sniff the end zone.

• 1:02:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:02:36Speaker 05

  Like they, even the handoffs, they had a, they had a handoff on the one. And it took like 15 seconds to get the ball to, to Junkins and, and didn't even come close to scoring. Like it was, it was a, it was a miserable. Ugly, ugly watch.

• 1:02:52Speaker 05

  And yeah, would have loved to tie.

• 1:02:53Speaker 00

  I think it was.

• 1:02:54Speaker 05

  Wish they kicked the extra point at the end.

• 1:02:55Speaker 00

  Yeah. At some point, a tie would have been fun.

• 1:02:59Speaker 01

  It would have.

• 1:02:59Speaker 00

  It deserved, this game deserved to tie.

• 1:03:01Speaker 05

  It had a chance too.

• 1:03:02Speaker 00

  A tie would have been just fine right there.

• 1:03:03Speaker 05

  The Browns committed holding in the act of the two-point conversion.

• 1:03:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:03:08Speaker 05

  And if Shador had completed the two-point conversion, they would have enforced the penalty. And I think the Browns would have probably kicked the extra point because it would have been like a two-point conversion from the 15.

• 1:03:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think so too.

• 1:03:20Speaker 05

  So that sucked. But yeah, it was, it was an ugly, ugly, ugly watch. The end was fun though. Fourth quarter was fun.

• 1:03:25Speaker 00

  It does feel like the Browns are kind of turning back into a pumpkin.

• 1:03:29Speaker 05

  Well, it should us.

• 1:03:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, but also their defense.

• 1:03:31Speaker 05

  Deshaun Watson plays that game.

• 1:03:33Speaker 00

  You think it's different? Goes down different?

• 1:03:35Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:03:36Speaker 00

  I don't know. Shadust did have like this Sean Watson of like fourth quarter. He had the drive, the Casey Conze touchdown. And then he had the, the drive for the field goal.

• 1:03:44Speaker 01

  He like 300 yards, right?

• 1:03:46Speaker 00

  Uh, I think he was just shy of it, but he.

• 1:03:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, he played okay.

• 1:03:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:03:50Speaker 01

  I mean, they've got weapons. That's the thing about the Browns. They do have, they've got some, some really good players on offense. Harold Fannin has quietly become one of the best.

• 1:03:58Speaker 00

  Oh, that touchdown was awesome.

• 1:04:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:00Speaker 00

  Awesome. He, uh, so yeah, the, the, the big problem with the Browns is that their defense has started to, to, I mean, Malik Collins being out has hurt their run defense significantly. Cause like I said, like Shuck was running, uh, Audra Geste may was running. Kamara doesn't even have to run. They used him a little bit, but like they, that was the big thing is the Saints haven't been able to run the ball all year and they were able to run the ball today.

• 1:04:22Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:04:22Speaker 00

  And so it feels like that's kind of failing them. Yeah. The, the, the Dom watch, I think it's, uh, I think the Browns, where, are you following his?

• 1:04:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm, I'm trying to get there.

• 1:04:32Speaker 00

  All right. So the, they went to, today was a Watson.

• 1:04:35Speaker 01

  Little brother, big brother.

• 1:04:37Speaker 00

  Watson legacy game.

• 1:04:38Speaker 01

  Uh, well, no.

• 1:04:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. And so now we're at no Sanders time, but don't have Watson versus Texas. So can't win a revenge game. Season over. Sean Watson will probably be back. Doesn't he have a concussion?

• 1:04:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:51Speaker 05

  So there's no, this is the last slide that we have. There's no more slides. We're gonna.

• 1:04:55Speaker 00

  Oh, season's over.

• 1:04:57Speaker 05

  He's gonna.

• 1:04:58Speaker 01

  But what if, what if they win that game?

• 1:05:01Speaker 05

  There's no more, there's no more slides. We're, we're gonna need Dom to finish the, finish this project.

• 1:05:06Speaker 01

  He says that according to this, it's impossible for them to beat the Texans.

• 1:05:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, because they don't have Watson and it can't be a revenge game. I asked Dom and he said it's done.

• 1:05:14Speaker 01

  That's sad.

• 1:05:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:05:15Speaker 04

  We can't, can't be done.

• 1:05:17Speaker 01

  It can't, we can't be done. No.

• 1:05:18Speaker 02

  Deshaun also cleared the concussion protocol yesterday.

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:05:22Speaker 02

  But he was just ruled out.

• 1:05:23Speaker 01

  I, I think it was unfair for, uh, for Carl Granderson to say that he used, uh, Shador Sanders press conference as bulletin board material. When Shador explicitly said that he wasn't going to say anything to give them bulletin board and he just laughed. And then Carl Granderson was, he said that it's disrespectful for someone to laugh at our defense.

• 1:05:42Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:05:43Speaker 01

  So they use that as bulletin board material. They should not have been allowed to do that. Shador did the right thing maturely.

• 1:05:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:50Speaker 01

  He laughed and then he said, I'm not going to say the thing.

• 1:05:53Speaker 00

  The, uh, the, the Saints have now trailed in every game that Kellen Moore's coached. That's pretty crazy.

• 1:06:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:01Speaker 00

  They gotta come out a little hotter, a little faster. Get ready to go. Also, I saw the, the stat, the, uh, Browns in their last 11 games are seven and four and the Buckeyes are six and five.

• 1:06:15Speaker 01

  Is that, is that true?

• 1:06:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, the Buckeyes are six and five in the last 11 games.

• 1:06:18Speaker 01

  Oh, congratulations though to Ryan Day. He got a two-point conversion.

• 1:06:22Speaker 00

  He did. He did. And our good friend Tate, who's just eating peeps.

• 1:06:25Speaker 01

  Big deal. Was that the first one of his, his head coaching career?

• 1:06:28Speaker 00

  I don't know if it was.

• 1:06:29Speaker 01

  I think it might've been.

• 1:06:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, they got fucking killed. They got killed. Uh, okay. Uh, by the way, Audra Geste may, that was a, uh, that was a revenge game that we should have seen coming. He should, we should have had him. Cause he got weighed by the Browns like last week. So we should have, we should have bet him to score a touchdown. Yeah, Browns. It feels like it's been, it was a fun start. Todd Monkin, maybe, maybe a good coach. The fact that he's got them, you know, above 500 in November. But probably need a quarterback in the draft, I would say.

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:02Speaker 00

  This is a guy, it's a good, young,

• 1:07:05Speaker 00

  a good young team that needs a quarterback.

• 1:07:09Speaker 01

  I, is it fair to say that the Browns are a quarterback away?

• 1:07:13Speaker 00

  From being in the playoffs? Yeah.

• 1:07:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, like a good one.

• 1:07:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:17Speaker 00

  Need a really good one.

• 1:07:18Speaker 01

  You get a good quarterback. I, I feel like the,

• 1:07:22Speaker 01

  the Browns are very close. They're closer than they've been in a while.

• 1:07:24Speaker 04

  Quarterback.

• 1:07:25Speaker 00

  Well, also when we're saying close, we're not saying like winning, like we're saying getting to the playoffs.

• 1:07:32Speaker 01

  I'm saying like.

• 1:07:32Speaker 00

  Quarterback's a tough position to figure out.

• 1:07:34Speaker 05

  Who wins the playoff game first? The Browns or the Steelers?

• 1:07:37Speaker 00

  Steelers. Uh, cause Steelers are gonna be a quarterback away soon too.

• 1:07:41Speaker 01

  Steelers.

• 1:07:41Speaker 05

  Steelers. I say Browns.

• 1:07:44Speaker 00

  And maybe Browns.

• 1:07:45Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:07:46Speaker 00

  Steelers. That's gotta feel good. Maybe Browns.

• 1:07:49Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:07:50Speaker 00

  Maybe Browns.

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  They'll do it this year.

• 1:07:52Speaker 00

  Uh, speaking of quarterbacks, let's do the next game.

• 1:07:54Speaker 01

  Browns this year?

• 1:07:55Speaker 00

  No, Steelers.

• 1:07:56Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:07:57Speaker 00

  Giants 19, Eagles 11. Bazooka Joe. It's incredible, a uniform game. Incredible uniform game. The actual gameplay was maybe not as incredible. Shout out our guy Jameis who, I don't, J.J. McCarthy was, played okay. And he was a, he was like a warrior. Jameis Winston, that touchdown drive changed the game.

• 1:08:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:18Speaker 00

  Like he took him down the field and he also had one of those patented Jameis Winston where I, he did the shoulder thing in the pocket like six times until there was no shoulder things left to do. And then just ran for 10 yards.

• 1:08:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, just the wiggle.

• 1:08:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:31Speaker 01

  He just, he, he makes the defense take a step one direction, then he takes off. It's always funny to me when they do, when they used to put J.J. in as the change of pace quarterback. Yeah. Okay. This guy's going to get in there and run because Jameis is, he's the, uh, the statue in the pocket. Uh, but J.J. got hurt like five times today.

• 1:08:46Speaker 00

  Oh my God.

• 1:08:47Speaker 01

  And like that one clip of him doing a, a practice there on the sidelines where he like grabbed the outside of his hip. And it looked like he got shot. I was like, there's no way he's coming back in. And I guess maybe they shot it up. I don't know. But, um, yeah, this was not the Joe Milton experience that we were all hoping for.

• 1:09:04Speaker 00

  Uh, oh, Max.

• 1:09:06Speaker 04

  Here's the problem with the Joe Milton experience in Philadelphia right now. We don't have any receivers that can run. Joe Milton, every drop back was looking to let one go. And we just don't have the guys that can win a one-on-one.

• 1:09:21Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. So he's like, Joe Milton's good. He just didn't have.

• 1:09:24Speaker 04

  I don't think Joe Milton, Joe Milton, he missed some balls today for sure. Um.

• 1:09:29Speaker 00

  You got mad at me for laughing about that one?

• 1:09:30Speaker 04

  Well, you were laughing way too hard.

• 1:09:32Speaker 00

  I mean, it was, it was a screen pass that he missed him by like 10.

• 1:09:35Speaker 04

  But if it got caught, he would have gotten tackled behind the line of scrimmage. It wasn't like.

• 1:09:38Speaker 00

  So you're saying he was doing that on purpose?

• 1:09:40Speaker 04

  No, but I'm saying it wasn't like a huge play that he, it, it, it was a nothing play that was still a nothing play.

• 1:09:46Speaker 01

  It was one play where the, the receiver was not even in the camera frame when they showed the replay.

• 1:09:52Speaker 04

  PFT, PFT. We gotta be on the same side.

• 1:09:54Speaker 01

  We are, we're on the same page. That was a bad one. He's never been a screen guy.

• 1:09:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:58Speaker 01

  That's not the Joe Milton experience.

• 1:10:00Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:10:00Speaker 01

  That's not what he's all about. You guys don't have anyone that's fast enough to catch his deep balls right now. Um, so that's limitation on his arm right there.

• 1:10:07Speaker 04

  I think Dontavion Wicks will be back after, after the bye. So.

• 1:10:12Speaker 01

  There was one ball where the Milton threw it too perfectly to Mackay-Lin.

• 1:10:16Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:10:16Speaker 01

  And it was such a hard ball that it went right through his hands. It like split his hands in half. You need somebody with stronger hands for, for Bazooka Joe.

• 1:10:27Speaker 00

  I mean, come on guys. Are we gonna do this for, how long are we gonna do this?

• 1:10:31Speaker 01

  With Bazooka Joe?

• 1:10:32Speaker 04

  Every game.

• 1:10:33Speaker 00

  Okay. All right, fine.

• 1:10:34Speaker 01

  Fact or fiction? Fact or fiction? The Eagles don't have a deep threat that's healthy right now at receiver.

• 1:10:39Speaker 00

  I, listen, I, I just Bazooka Joe's.

• 1:10:43Speaker 01

  Fact.

• 1:10:43Speaker 00

  Good job with his feet today.

• 1:10:45Speaker 01

  He did, yeah.

• 1:10:46Speaker 04

  He wasn't that bad.

• 1:10:47Speaker 00

  No, he wasn't. He just, I mean, he's not accurate.

• 1:10:48Speaker 04

  He missed like three throws.

• 1:10:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:52Speaker 04

  He wasn't like great.

• 1:10:53Speaker 00

  There was a couple of like all-time sacks in this game. Two, like one that Joe Milton just did not, Arvel Reese is a monster. And then there was one where J.J. McCarthy literally turned around into a sack.

• 1:11:05Speaker 04

  Jonathan Grenard.

• 1:11:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:06Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:11:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, this was, it was an ugly game. Giants are, find a way to win ugly games. They're, they're kind of, I don't think the Giants are as good as the Broncos, but they're in that same category of like, they just keep winning games. So you gotta respect it.

• 1:11:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. Milton got ear hold a couple of times, like helmet right to the bottom of the chin. Um, that was, that was tough to see. I, the Eagles are, they're not a fun watch unless you have somebody that can take the top off and then let, let Joe sail one. But outside of that, very, uh, very tough watch right now in Philadelphia.

• 1:11:34Speaker 04

  I think Joe Milton played well enough to not lose the job.

• 1:11:37Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:11:37Speaker 04

  But.

• 1:11:38Speaker 00

  Well, but who would he lose the job to?

• 1:11:40Speaker 04

  Cole Payton. We could go to QB5.

• 1:11:43Speaker 00

  Like if you had Andy Dalton still on the roster, would Joe Milton be playing?

• 1:11:46Speaker 04

  I would much rather be watching.

• 1:11:47Speaker 00

  I didn't ask that. Wasn't the question I was asking.

• 1:11:50Speaker 04

  I would, that's the answer.

• 1:11:51Speaker 00

  Okay, okay, okay.

• 1:11:54Speaker 04

  Who cares?

• 1:11:55Speaker 00

  Yeah. What would, what would Andy Dalton do for this Eagles team right now? I don't know. What would he do? I, I was just more upset. Listen, I, I joined the, the Milton ladder. No, no, no, no. I was mad that we didn't get the Milton, the Milton, uh, Hail Mary at the end. That sucked. I was pumped out about that. Mackay, yeah, Mackay Lem's gotta catch that ball. Yeah. Right through his hands. Like that, the ladder was humming if Mackay catches that ball. And Elijah Mitchell is an idiot. Yeah. Two plays, two plays in this game where he was just so dumb. I will also give credit to J.J. McCarthy because that's a guy who realizes like his, uh, job security in this league is not secure at all because he was, he went to his knees in pain. Yeah.

• 1:12:36Speaker 00

  Then hurt his ankle. Jameis Winston went, scored a touchdown drive, went out to the field and then they called him out off. And J.J. McCarthy's like, I'm, I'm getting back out there. He said afterward, he was extremely anxious to get back on the field today. If I'm able to walk, I'm able to throw, I want to get back with, out there as soon as possible. He's won six starts in a row. Longest active streak in the National Football League. He was an absolute dog today in terms of playing through injuries. Yeah. J.J., you've earned my respect.

• 1:13:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, J.J. He's, he's played well when he's gotten in and I think, uh, I don't know. He, we haven't reached this place yet, but there, there is a scenario. If the Giants, it looks like they're going to win the division. Cowboys aren't far behind and, there's some other teams in that division that might have hope after next week, but right now it seems like the Giants are, are clearly in position to make the playoffs. If he wins a playoff game, or if he wins a couple of playoff games.

• 1:13:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:28Speaker 01

  That's going to be a very interesting.

• 1:13:29Speaker 00

  Couple, you gotta.

• 1:13:31Speaker 01

  I'm, no, I'm saying that's going to be an interesting conversation to have.

• 1:13:34Speaker 00

  But if he, well, no, if he goes to the NFC Championship game, because that would be a couple playoff wins. I don't think there's a conversation.

• 1:13:40Speaker 01

  No conversation at all?

• 1:13:41Speaker 00

  No. If J.J. McCarthy takes the Giants to the NFC Championship game.

• 1:13:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:45Speaker 00

  He's your starting quarterback next year.

• 1:13:47Speaker 01

  It'll be interesting.

• 1:13:48Speaker 00

  You'd have to, the NFC champion, that would be, he would be two very good teams to get to the NFC Championship. You would a hundred percent have to have him be your starter.

• 1:13:57Speaker 01

  No, you, yeah, you're probably right. I'm just saying it's going to get interesting if he does win. If they win a lot of games to close out the season, they do, they have some success in the playoffs.

• 1:14:05Speaker 00

  This is why they made the, the deal though. They, it's a good problem to have if they have two quarterbacks.

• 1:14:09Speaker 01

  And, uh, and real talk about Joe Milton. I think you have to also take into account, this is his first start. Like this is the first time he's ever truly played in the game. And I don't think he looked bad at all. Considering that he was.

• 1:14:20Speaker 00

  His legs look great.

• 1:14:21Speaker 01

  Considering he was not able to use the best part of his game in any facet whatsoever, because there was no deep threat. Not a bad first game. You have to assume that like other quarterbacks, he would get better the more reps that he gets. So I'd say like, yeah, good for him. Not, not terrible.

• 1:14:38Speaker 00

  I have a question.

• 1:14:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:41Speaker 00

  I would like to preface that I don't want this to happen and I don't think that it will happen.

• 1:14:45Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:14:46Speaker 00

  Do you, what do you think the chances are that Sirianni gets fired this week?

• 1:14:51Speaker 01

  Oh, bye week?

• 1:14:52Speaker 00

  Bye week.

• 1:14:54Speaker 01

  Can I answer that with a question?

• 1:14:58Speaker 00

  I don't think the chances are high, but I don't think it's zero.

• 1:15:00Speaker 01

  Yes, PFT, what's your question? Max just kind of answered my question. What does he think the odds are?

• 1:15:06Speaker 00

  I don't think it's zero either. I think, I would say three percent. What do you think the chances are how he gets cooking? And trading guys? Yeah. I don't know.

• 1:15:20Speaker 00

  Zach Bond, Reece Woolen? Zach Bond, yeah, yeah. I mean, there are pieces that he could. Zach Bond, people would want. Uh, yeah, I mean, you. Reece Woolen people would want. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, those two.

• 1:15:35Speaker 01

  Do you?

• 1:15:35Speaker 00

  Because they're not in the few, like long-term future. Right, right. It's like pivot right now. Yeah.

• 1:15:40Speaker 01

  Do you think he would move, uh, Cooper?

• 1:15:43Speaker 00

  Cooper? He could.

• 1:15:44Speaker 01

  I think he.

• 1:15:45Speaker 00

  But Cooper, I mean, that was, he actually played Cooper. He actually had a, a better game today. He's been so bad this year. Like his stock couldn't be lower and that's not really what, how he likes to do.

• 1:15:56Speaker 01

  Ideally with a young player like that, you, you would not trade him. But I think that there's been enough, enough chatter.

• 1:16:03Speaker 00

  And there's also so much money in this defense, like Quinnian Mitchell still, still got, like, he can't pay everyone.

• 1:16:09Speaker 01

  Pay Cooper, yeah. He would be one guy that.

• 1:16:11Speaker 00

  Mitchell, you gotta pay.

• 1:16:14Speaker 01

  Uh, Jalen Carter, he had.

• 1:16:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, Jalen Carter was good. Yeah. John, the, the D-line stepped up. They, they've been getting a lot of shit the past couple of weeks. Arvel Reese was the player of the game though. He was everywhere. Yeah.

• 1:16:24Speaker 01

  He's a beast.

• 1:16:24Speaker 00

  He's, they, that's a home run pick. He's a monster. Yeah. And they, they also, Scataboo wasn't in there. The, the, the Giants couldn't really run the ball. Like it felt like the Eagles were doing a good job defensively, but again, they find ways to win. And I'm happy for Jameis. Cause that, and that is really like, we were talking about Gardner Minshew earlier. I feel like Jameis and Gardner Minshew are just, they should just be solely like drive to drive guys. Like just bring them in when you need a little bit of a pop. You know? Yeah. Maybe don't start them, but at this point in their career, it's like, hey, the offense is slogging away. Give them something different.

• 1:16:57Speaker 01

  You gotta be careful with the timing. It's like with Minshew, you gotta time it just for, and when it hits, it's perfect.

• 1:17:02Speaker 00

  But they don't win this game without Jameis. Like that was, he came in and, and let him down the field.

• 1:17:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:07Speaker 00

  So I'm happy for him. He said after, he was like, I, first thing I thought of was, I hope he's okay. Second thing I thought of is, it's time to ball.

• 1:17:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:14Speaker 00

  And it was, it was time to ball.

• 1:17:16Speaker 01

  Isaiah Likely is so good.

• 1:17:17Speaker 00

  Yeah. He's very good. Zach, you're going to join us in the, you gotta join us in the, uh, cave for this game. The Bears just kicked off. Certainly can. Let's do, let's do one more game and then we'll take a break. Uh, Lions nineteen, Dolphins nine. This was kind of an ugly game. This was, uh, my mark of a really good team is winning games when you don't have your A effort and the Lions didn't feel like they had their A effort today. Their defense played really well, which they've actually kind of stacked a few games in a row defensively. Offense looked not great. Jameer Gibbs like was kind of bottled up. Uh, he of course still scored it. And of course we, we made the joke, but every single week Jameer Gibbs has some type of record that he's either hit or about to hit. This week it was, he scored his 60th

• 1:18:02Speaker 00

  touchdown, uh, in the first four seasons of his NFL career, which is now second all time. And Terrell Davis has 61, so he will break that soon.

• 1:18:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:13Speaker 00

  So that Jameer Gibbs is just special. But yeah, I thought this was like scrappy Dolphins team, not a great, uh, all-around game from the Lions, still found a way to win. That's a good team.

• 1:18:24Speaker 01

  I also thought he had a, a, a hell of a pump fake on that rush where he pretended to pitch the ball to Jared.

• 1:18:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:18:30Speaker 01

  People bought that. Like you have to be a hell of an actor to be able to pull that one off.

• 1:18:33Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:18:33Speaker 01

  Where it's like, yeah, Jared's going to get it. And then we also had, we had, uh, two passes, two great completions by punters.

• 1:18:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:18:40Speaker 01

  This game.

• 1:18:41Speaker 00

  Oh, by the way, we should have said Bradley Mann. That was the punt of the year.

• 1:18:45Speaker 01

  Which one?

• 1:18:47Speaker 00

  Brayden Mann from, from the Eagles game. We, we just totally didn't, we forgot about, that was the punt of the year.

• 1:18:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:51Speaker 00

  He also had the worst punt of the year. He had a minus two yard punt and then an 81 yard punt.

• 1:18:55Speaker 01

  Well, in the minus two, I think he was scrambling around.

• 1:18:57Speaker 00

  But still, it was, it was crazy to both, but we should have, we should have mentioned it. That was one of the coolest punts ever from your own end zone to basically the five yard.

• 1:19:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. So it was a great punt, but, but in this game you had two punters that both threw awesome passes.

• 1:19:10Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:19:10Speaker 01

  Uh, Bradley Pinion, I think probably with the.

• 1:19:12Speaker 00

  Pinion.

• 1:19:13Speaker 01

  What's up?

• 1:19:13Speaker 00

  Pinion.

• 1:19:14Speaker 01

  Uh, with the completion of the year from a punter.

• 1:19:16Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:19:17Speaker 01

  He, I mean, that pass, maybe quarterback controversy in Miami.

• 1:19:21Speaker 00

  I don't know. Malik Willis.

• 1:19:22Speaker 01

  It was a dot.

• 1:19:23Speaker 00

  Malik Willis is frustrating to watch.

• 1:19:25Speaker 01

  I'll say it.

• 1:19:25Speaker 00

  Yeah. He's, and I don't know, I gotta, uh, someone can, who watches the All 22 can, can point it out, but it feels like he just holds on to the ball for way too long and he should run a little bit more. And yeah, he's a frustrating watch.

• 1:19:39Speaker 01

  I thought he was, uh, I thought he was way more fun to watch when he was with the Packers. Like the way that they would use him on offense was so much more entertaining than what we've seen in Miami. Um, but yeah, Pinion was just, just an absolute dot that he threw. Uh, but that was probably the highlight of this game in terms of just like excitement.

• 1:19:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. And the, well, the other thing was, I would say Aiden Hutchinson had one of the best games I've ever seen of someone who didn't get a sack. He was just an absolute beast. Holding calls, guy, like he was just, he was in on everything. I don't think he recorded an actual sack, but if you watch the game, you're like, he was everywhere. He was an absolute monster. He, uh, the, the, they were playing for Jack Can, Campbell. Jack Campbell called Dan Campbell before the game, said, make sure the house is taken care of until I get back. The Lions defense gave up no touchdowns. So that, that was mission accomplished for the first game. Also, Dan Campbell, I saw this stat. Cause you know, the Lions are weird, like the Lions are really good. I think the Lions are definitely a Super Bowl contender. They're a really good team.

• 1:20:39Speaker 00

  But Dan Campbell gets criticized from time to time because of, you know, like when the Lions lose, it's usually because they went for it on a fourth down and all that stuff. Dan Campbell, uh, started his Lions career as a head coach, one and six in 2022. Since that date, since he started one and six, he is 50 and 19 as a head coach. 50 and 19. Pretty fucking good.

• 1:21:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:03Speaker 00

  That's the, he's got them ready. I mean, this was a classic like letdown spot, potential going abroad after this. And again, it wasn't the best game, but they still found a way to win and that always gets credit for me.

• 1:21:16Speaker 01

  With a game like this and, and the Lions being where they are, at the start of the season, there were some, there were some mumbling, there were some murmurs about the Lions window.

• 1:21:26Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:21:26Speaker 01

  After what happened last year and how they started this year off, there were murmurs about window. The window talk is over. They're, the window is still here. They're clear, clearly in the window.

• 1:21:37Speaker 00

  Bears just scored. This offense is so fucking locked in. Rome. Yeah, they're the, oh, no, I don't think they, I don't think he scored.

• 1:21:47Speaker 00

  What were you gonna say about the window? I was looking at Roma Dun.

• 1:21:48Speaker 01

  Uh, they're, we're, we're still window.

• 1:21:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:51Speaker 01

  There's still window right now.

• 1:21:52Speaker 00

  Absolutely. I, I'm wondering if they do something at the, at the trade deadline because.

• 1:21:55Speaker 01

  What would you want?

• 1:21:57Speaker 00

  I don't know. They probably, they might need more secondary help, I would guess. I don't know.

• 1:22:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, defense, I'm sure.

• 1:22:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, but the defense has played well, like their defense has played well. So, uh, they're like, they're, it feels like the Lions haven't put together the, the both, both sides of the ball playing great at the same time. And when that does happen, they're going to be super, super scary.

• 1:22:18Speaker 01

  Now they've got a little, they've got a mini PMT gauntlet coming up. The Lions have the Patriots.

• 1:22:24Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:22:24Speaker 01

  In Germany, right? And then they've got the Bucks, Zach, and then they've got the Bears.

• 1:22:29Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 1:22:29Speaker 01

  Little mini gauntlet.

• 1:22:30Speaker 00

  That's, that's Thanksgiving with Wu-Tang at halftime.

• 1:22:33Speaker 01

  That's right. I didn't, did they just announce that?

• 1:22:35Speaker 00

  I think so.

• 1:22:35Speaker 01

  Was that like off the, I feel like that should have gotten more publicity.

• 1:22:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. Probably.

• 1:22:42Speaker 01

  Come on, Wu-Tang.

• 1:22:43Speaker 00

  Wu-Tang's gonna be.

• 1:22:44Speaker 01

  No ODB.

• 1:22:45Speaker 00

  They'll still be good. Uh Dolphins are scrappy. That's all I got for the Dolphins. Malik Willis is frustrating to watch, but the Dolphins are scrappy. Their defensive line like that, Jameer Gibbs, I feel like there was a lot of times where he was bottled up.

• 1:22:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, they fight.

• 1:22:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. And, and Jeff Haley has, uh, no, who's her, is that their, who's her?

• 1:23:03Speaker 01

  Haley's, I'm sure he calls the plays on defense.

• 1:23:06Speaker 00

  He calls the plays on defense, right? I don't know if he was their defensive coordinator and I think he, he's a, oh, there we go. Now Rome. Rome has scored. Justice for Rome.

• 1:23:19Speaker 00

  Uh, yeah, Jeff Haley's like, they, we've said it before, but they are doing everything correct for a tanking team where they have young players getting better, fighting in these games and everyone knows that they were not going to be very good and that's fine.

• 1:23:33Speaker 01

  I didn't know this. He was, uh, Haley was a wide receiver when he played, made the switch, kind of like,

• 1:23:39Speaker 01

  yeah, made the switch to being a defensive guy.

• 1:23:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, all right, let's take a break and then we come back. We'll do the last two games in the early slate and then our afternoon games.

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• 1:25:45Speaker 00

  Okay, back for Chiefs 35, Jets 12. Memes for a minute there. I thought you guys were gonna do it. I really did. To quote Aaron Glenn, we did everything, we did all the keys to victory in the first half. Yeah.

• 1:26:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:05Speaker 00

  What were they? No clue. Okay. No idea. But mission accomplished. They were losing going into that. Yeah.

• 1:26:16Speaker 00

  That's true.

• 1:26:16Speaker 01

  But they did everything they could.

• 1:26:18Speaker 00

  That's true. They hit all the keys. And didn't you have a turnover that then led to a touchdown right before the half? No, almost. Okay. We missed the field goal. That's right. That's right.

• 1:26:29Speaker 01

  Justin Fields had that fumble, right?

• 1:26:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, Justin Fields came in. Yeah, that was bad. Yeah, that felt good though. Patrick Holmes had, uh, his, uh, funny bone hit really hard.

• 1:26:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, that, that, uh, Justin Fields play, that was the first time that the Chiefs have run any sort of quarterback sneak since 2023.

• 1:26:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, remember? I mean, there was, Patrick Holmes broke his knee in Denver and he stopped doing it.

• 1:26:49Speaker 01

  I want to say in like 2019, that's when he got hurt.

• 1:26:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:26:52Speaker 01

  And they occasionally would do it. I think Noah Gray used to do it for him. Yeah, they just don't sneak it.

• 1:26:56Speaker 00

  They don't.

• 1:26:56Speaker 01

  Probably will never do it again after that.

• 1:26:58Speaker 00

  But yeah, this was a, this was kind of a, the first quarter is like, ooh, Jets are kind of alive. Uh, and then it just fell apart. And especially like that moment where, I mean, Patrick Holmes, I think he got hit really hard in his funny bone because I thought he was like done for the year.

• 1:27:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:12Speaker 00

  Injury. Um, shout out to Dr. Dan who texted me right away. He's like, it's either funny bone or a UCL. So it's either a five, five minute injury or out for the season.

• 1:27:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:22Speaker 00

  Pretty good, pretty wild, uh, volatility when it comes to that one, but it was funny.

• 1:27:27Speaker 01

  It was, uh, his whole arm went numb.

• 1:27:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:29Speaker 01

  Cause he was just looking at it like, what the hell? It was like just hanging off of his body, but I guess it was just the nerve and then he was back in.

• 1:27:35Speaker 00

  And Kenneth Wa- Walker got back. He's, he had two games. So playing against Seahawks and Broncos can do that to you. Playing against the Jets can make you feel pretty damn good. Uh, three touchdowns for him. I think he had like 143 yards from scrimmage. I, all right. So my two big notes from this game, because it was kind of like a, there's not much to talk about. The Chiefs, Chiefs beat up on bad teams. Like that's what they've done this year. I, I, I still don't know when they play a really good team, if they are good. Uh, but they are better than a lot of teams in the NFL. So my two big notes though were one, how have they not cut Harrison Bucker at this point? He missed the same field goal twice in a row. There was a penalty

• 1:28:19Speaker 00

  and he missed it again to the exact same spot. And these are like makeable field goals that he's missing. It feels like they're playing with fire when it comes to Harrison Bucker. They even know that too. The guy just doesn't have it anymore. And that was one thing that the Chiefs, like Harrison Bucker, when he was elite, it was just, it just makes the Chiefs so hard to beat because late game situations, late end of half situations. It's like they get the ball and all they need is 20 yards and Patrick Holmes will always get that for you and then get quick three points. Now none of that is guaranteed and it feels like a big thing that's going to come up in the playoffs.

• 1:28:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. You see a couple of mile away. It's already hurt him.

• 1:28:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:28:59Speaker 01

  Um, and yeah, so he missed the, the same field goal twice. Was it 56 and 51?

• 1:29:03Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:29:04Speaker 01

  With the two distances on that. Um, so not exactly a chip shot, but it's something that regardless of distance has kept happening to him over and over again.

• 1:29:11Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:29:11Speaker 01

  It's like, what else? If you were to ask Andy Reid, like, what's your strategy here? He's like, the, the one idea that he had was bringing in a kicker that they had no intention of signing to their active roster.

• 1:29:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:29:22Speaker 01

  That was like the one strategy that they had, like, they gotta do something else. It's very, very clear. He hasn't had it for a very long time. He's not exceptionally good on kickoffs either. So I don't know, out of like some sense of, of loyalty, they want to stick around with him.

• 1:29:35Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 1:29:35Speaker 01

  Cause he's been there before. It doesn't make any sense, but yeah, didn't matter today. They beat the fuck out of the Jets. Uh, Jets defense continues to look really bad, except for maybe Geno Smith should be playing safety.

• 1:29:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, that was an awesome hit.

• 1:29:46Speaker 01

  Laid that dude the fuck out. I mean, I don't know if he's been hitting during, during practice or what.

• 1:29:51Speaker 00

  That was sick memes.

• 1:29:52Speaker 01

  Great hit by Geno Smith. He gets the hit stick of the day.

• 1:29:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, well, and David Bailey is just really good. He's the only guy. Yep. Well, my other note.

• 1:30:00Speaker 01

  Well, he had two sacks and, and was it back to back?

• 1:30:02Speaker 00

  Two sacks, two forced fumbles.

• 1:30:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:04Speaker 00

  My other note, uh, it's just a good reminder when we talk about football, think about football. The Jets have a lot of good, young talent. They have, you know, Omar Cooper, Siddiq. Braylon Allen's been really good this year. It was nice seeing Breece Hall and Braylon Allen. Their run game was good. It's still like, I don't care if he's having a bad season. Garrett Wilson still is what makes this offense go. You could see it in, in, in the way they were able to move the ball, passing it. Don't you agree memes? Like you need him out on the field. Yeah. And he open, he opens up everything. Everything. Yeah. It's like, those are the type of guys that like, even if they're not having the best season, it doesn't matter. They, them on the field versus them off the field. It's not rocket science. Like everyone else has an easier time.

• 1:30:47Speaker 00

  You, the Jets could move the ball on the ground today. They could not move the ball in the air. And that's what did them in. And it was just kind of an avalanche. Uh, you know, after the second half, it was just like, all right, this game is over. Yeah. They can't do in game adjustments either. Like they looked fine in the first half, but, but as soon as you have to make adjustments, you just, you just lose.

• 1:31:10Speaker 01

  Yeah. Do we think that this is going to be, uh, Aaron Glenn's last day on the job?

• 1:31:15Speaker 00

  I believe so.

• 1:31:16Speaker 01

  We, we're, we're thinking that he's going to get fired this week.

• 1:31:19Speaker 00

  Is it a bye week? No, bye week's not till week 13. Ooh.

• 1:31:23Speaker 01

  It's a long ways away.

• 1:31:24Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:31:26Speaker 00

  You think he's gonna get fired? I mean, he has to.

• 1:31:29Speaker 01

  I, I disagree.

• 1:31:32Speaker 00

  Oh no. CBS was playing outstanding when they were, when they watched Geno Smith and Aaron Glenn crash out.

• 1:31:37Speaker 01

  They were, yeah.

• 1:31:38Speaker 00

  Oh no.

• 1:31:40Speaker 01

  I don't think he's going to get fired this week.

• 1:31:42Speaker 00

  It, they're really just a bad coach team.

• 1:31:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:31:45Speaker 00

  It's tough. It's, it's tough to watch. Cause it,

• 1:31:49Speaker 00

  yeah. I mean, hey, look, let's go to Tankathon. This is just our, the Colts lost.

• 1:31:54Speaker 01

  I think it's a top 13.

• 1:31:57Speaker 00

  No, you have, they have the fourth and the sixth pick right now.

• 1:32:00Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:32:00Speaker 00

  And then the 13th from Dallas. That's pretty damn good.

• 1:32:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. Three picks in the top 13.

• 1:32:04Speaker 00

  And we got a big game coming up next week. Against? No, Colts, uh, Dolphins. Oh, that is a massive. Huge game.

• 1:32:12Speaker 01

  Huge. So you are rooting for, uh, the Dolphins.

• 1:32:15Speaker 00

  Hard.

• 1:32:16Speaker 01

  Fin up.

• 1:32:17Speaker 00

  Hard. Yeah, that's a massive game.

• 1:32:20Speaker 01

  Where's that game?

• 1:32:24Speaker 00

  I don't know. I don't know.

• 1:32:25Speaker 01

  It doesn't matter.

• 1:32:26Speaker 00

  So big.

• 1:32:27Speaker 01

  It probably doesn't matter.

• 1:32:28Speaker 00

  So big. Uh, yeah, I don't, I, I think you guys, what do you guys think about the Chiefs? Like I think they're, they're good. I don't know if they're great.

• 1:32:36Speaker 01

  It's an Indy.

• 1:32:38Speaker 00

  It's an Indy.

• 1:32:39Speaker 01

  I love that. I love that. Just focus in on the road.

• 1:32:42Speaker 00

  I'm gonna look.

• 1:32:43Speaker 01

  No distractions.

• 1:32:44Speaker 00

  Whose line is it anyway?

• 1:32:46Speaker 01

  Uh, Indy by three.

• 1:32:49Speaker 00

  I was gonna say.

• 1:32:51Speaker 01

  Maybe more. It might be more.

• 1:32:52Speaker 00

  Three and a half. No, but I would.

• 1:32:54Speaker 01

  Four and a half.

• 1:32:55Speaker 00

  I would take the fucking. It is.

• 1:33:01Speaker 01

  Indy by two and a half.

• 1:33:02Speaker 00

  Two and a half.

• 1:33:03Speaker 01

  King sports book.

• 1:33:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. So the Chiefs play the Falcons, Cardinals, Bills. All right. So when they, when they play the, they have a stretch where they have to play the Bills, Rams, Bengals, Patriots, Niners. Whoa. That's going to be it right there. It's like, that's where we're going to find out because they are just significantly better than the bad teams in the NFL.

• 1:33:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:33:22Speaker 00

  And, and that was exactly what happened today.

• 1:33:25Speaker 01

  Uh, Patty check downs continues to just, uh, live around the line of scrimmage.

• 1:33:29Speaker 00

  Is A dot?

• 1:33:30Speaker 01

  I saw, I saw a stat today. This is kind of crazy. And I think it's since week four. I believe, uh, Jordan Love has 18 passes that go like 40 air yards, uh, like, you know, distance traveled in the air.

• 1:33:45Speaker 00

  That feels low actually, but yeah.

• 1:33:47Speaker 01

  And I believe.

• 1:33:48Speaker 00

  I feel like he has more than that.

• 1:33:49Speaker 01

  I believe Patrick Mahomes has zero.

• 1:33:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. Ty Quan Thornton getting hurt.

• 1:33:54Speaker 01

  Big difference. Yeah.

• 1:33:55Speaker 00

  I think that was week four when he got hurt. Yeah. It was week four against the Raiders. So that makes sense. But yeah, don't you get that feeling of, of the Chiefs? I get. Like, I, I'm not saying they're bad at all. And I still think they could, you know, because it's Mahomes and it's Andy Reid, you gotta say they could still win a Superbowl, but I just, I guess I want to see them play. A couple of good teams and see if, if they get like bottled up.

• 1:34:17Speaker 01

  Here's a stat right here. Uh, completions of 20 plus air yards since week five, Jordan Love, 18, Patrick Mahomes, zero. Yeah. They just, they don't have a deep threat right now.

• 1:34:26Speaker 00

  I wonder what, what Chiefs fans like. I'd like to hear from Chiefs fans. Like what, what, what do they think about? Is it?

• 1:34:31Speaker 01

  I think they love it.

• 1:34:32Speaker 00

  No, no, but well, no, I think they probably have some concerns about this, about this team where it's like, are you like, hey, it doesn't matter. It's just Patrick Mahomes will, will be in it in the playoffs. Or they're like, deep down, like. Ah, it looks a little different than what it has in the past. They don't have the same wide receiving room that we have in the past.

• 1:34:50Speaker 01

  I think you make a good point, actually. In years past, they would have been like, I love the fact that he's not throwing deep.

• 1:34:55Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:34:55Speaker 01

  That everybody is maligning Mahomes, saying he, you know, he, he doesn't have that deep ball in him. This, this offense is flawed because they would have a conviction deep down that they would turn it around.

• 1:35:05Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:35:05Speaker 01

  When it mattered, but I think it's been such that this year, um, it is a concern.

• 1:35:10Speaker 00

  Right. And Kenneth Walker's awesome, but if you can bottle up Kenneth Walker, like I said, he had two tough games against the Broncos and Seahawks. And then they were, I mean, they were a play away from beating the, the Broncos last week. So it's not like it's, you know, that they got killed. They got killed by the Seahawks, but that game was very, very close. I don't know. It just. I think maybe it's just that it's going to be, every game is going to be a little more difficult. So it doesn't feel like it was when it was dominant Chiefs where it's like, it doesn't matter. They'll just roll you.

• 1:35:35Speaker 01

  There's definitely not that sense of inevitability.

• 1:35:38Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:35:38Speaker 01

  That they used to have every time you'd watch the Chiefs play.

• 1:35:40Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:35:40Speaker 01

  It's, it's definitely like, it's more nerve wracking than it has been when they play against a good team.

• 1:35:45Speaker 00

  I will say this, this is a stat that goes counter to what I, what I just said. The Chiefs have already had more games scoring 30 plus points. For than in the 2025, 2024, or 2023 regular seasons.

• 1:35:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:35:58Speaker 00

  They are scoring, they're putting up points.

• 1:36:00Speaker 01

  Against, against some bad teams. Yeah.

• 1:36:02Speaker 00

  They are, they're putting it on.

• 1:36:03Speaker 01

  They're putting them on them. All right. Uh, last early game Cowboys, 27 Colts, 23. This was, this, this was basically the Cowboys. Doing the exact same thing. We're like, hey, can we blow this game? But the Colts being bad outweighed that.

• 1:36:20Speaker 00

  Cause the Cowboys tried to blow this game.

• 1:36:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean.

• 1:36:22Speaker 00

  I mean, that C D Lamb play was insane. That fumble.

• 1:36:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:36:25Speaker 00

  Where he gets up and he runs and then he like a comical fumble, but they, they were up 10 and then it was tied and it was just like, are the Cowboys going to blow this again? But the Colts are just, the Colts and Daniel Jones isn't very good and, and they, they were able to outlast them.

• 1:36:39Speaker 01

  So I mean, they, they outgained them, almost doubled them up, I believe.

• 1:36:43Speaker 00

  Right. Which is what the Cowboys do.

• 1:36:45Speaker 01

  But most of that edge was in the first half.

• 1:36:47Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:36:47Speaker 01

  In the second half, they just kind of, they got ahead and then they kind of kept ahead, but it was not comfortable for them in the second half.

• 1:36:54Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:36:54Speaker 01

  Uh, but at the end of the day, they're four and five, which is a, a good spot for the Cowboys to be right now.

• 1:36:58Speaker 00

  Yeah. Which is dominant spot in the NFC East.

• 1:37:01Speaker 01

  Dominant spot.

• 1:37:02Speaker 00

  That is.

• 1:37:02Speaker 01

  Striking distance.

• 1:37:03Speaker 00

  It's a dominant spot.

• 1:37:04Speaker 01

  They're right there. They had.

• 1:37:05Speaker 00

  Two games above the third and 14.

• 1:37:06Speaker 01

  It's, it's also like the, the Cowboys, I think should be, they're a talented team. They're a talented team, at least on offense. Um, but they can't get out of their own way with the penalties and, and just like brain farts and, and minor coaching screw ups that add up over the long run, where you almost let a, a bad team like the Colts come back and beat you.

• 1:37:25Speaker 00

  Yeah. And I mean, uh, thankfully Caleb Downs saved them. He was awesome today. He had a great bounce back from getting dribbled last week. He had the, uh, game ceiling interception, but he also had like a bunch of, uh, big plays, pass breakups, tackles, sack. Uh, yeah, the, yeah, they're just, I, I think there was, I think, was it you Max was sitting next to me and you're like, the Cowboys can't lose to the Colts. I was like, yeah, they can. Like they're bad. They're not a very good team.

• 1:37:54Speaker 01

  But the Colts are trying.

• 1:37:56Speaker 00

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:37:56Speaker 01

  Like they, I was right.

• 1:37:58Speaker 00

  Anyone, I know, but anyone, any other team, the Cowboys would have had another blown lead late and been like, how did they lose this game? But the Colts are just so bad that, that it just out, it was an unstoppable force versus immovable object. And the Colts shittiness like won the day.

• 1:38:15Speaker 01

  I mean, the end of this game was crazy.

• 1:38:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:17Speaker 01

  Uh, how, how it ended up winding up when, um, the Colts take the lead and then the Cowboys go down the field in like four plays.

• 1:38:23Speaker 00

  Shout out Ryan Florinoy, who is one of the best wide receiver threes in the league.

• 1:38:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. Like a 50 yard catch by Florinoy and then, um, Packers was out today. Kind of the last minute. Something weird might be going on there.

• 1:38:34Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:38:35Speaker 01

  Maybe a trade.

• 1:38:36Speaker 00

  I don't know. I think he said Hammy.

• 1:38:37Speaker 01

  They said Hammy, but he was not, nobody thought that he was going to be out until like.

• 1:38:42Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:38:42Speaker 01

  Eight hours before game time.

• 1:38:43Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:38:44Speaker 01

  So something weird might be happening there. But, um, yeah, Florinoy gets like a 50 yard catch and then the Colts commit every penalty and then within like one more play, they reach a point where they say, we should actually just let them score.

• 1:38:56Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:38:57Speaker 01

  It was like the fastest switch from, uh, all right, uh, let's just, you know, a defensive stand here to win the game to, oh God, please let them score so we can get the ball back. It was the fastest, like complete mentality switch for a defensive time.

• 1:39:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. So Cowboys, yeah, I mean, a win's a win, I guess. I, I still don't think they're very good, but we talked about it. Like they're gonna, they're, they're going to compete for the NFC East. If they play, they, they still have to play the Giants one more time and Giants beat them week one.

• 1:39:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:25Speaker 00

  If the Cowboys win that game, that could be a huge swing in the NFC.

• 1:39:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:29Speaker 00

  And as for the Colts, we'll see what happens. Trade deadline. I, we think Jonathan Taylor's going to get traded.

• 1:39:35Speaker 01

  After the game, he acted like it. He, he did like a, a thank you.

• 1:39:38Speaker 00

  Seth McGowan looked good. He had some pop to him. So yeah, Jonathan Taylor, he, he did a thank you. And he said, he doesn't know if this is his last game in a Colts uniform. Also, the Colts did a real solid by letting Daniel Jones know that he's not going to be traded.

• 1:39:53Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:39:53Speaker 00

  Is that, were people asking the trade for him?

• 1:39:56Speaker 01

  No, that tells me that they, uh, they made some calls and nobody was like, yeah, we'll take him. And so he was like, we just want to let you know, uh, we're not going to let you go, Daniel.

• 1:40:04Speaker 00

  The, uh, there's some bad stats going around with Daniel Jones right now. He's getting, so I'll, let's do a blind resume. You ready for this?

• 1:40:12Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:40:13Speaker 00

  Uh, QB, uh, QB one, uh, six touchdowns, nine interceptions. Uh, through nine games, uh, 1,541 yards. QB two, five touchdowns, nine interceptions. 1,542 yards. So one more yard.

• 1:40:33Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 1:40:34Speaker 00

  One less touchdown.

• 1:40:35Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:40:37Speaker 00

  It's through nine games.

• 1:40:38Speaker 01

  They sound like kind of the same person.

• 1:40:40Speaker 00

  They do, but they're not.

• 1:40:42Speaker 01

  Is one. Kyler?

• 1:40:46Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:40:46Speaker 01

  Does one play for a team on the West Coast?

• 1:40:49Speaker 00

  No, they're actually both Colts.

• 1:40:50Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:40:52Speaker 00

  So QB two was Daniel Jones.

• 1:40:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:40:55Speaker 00

  QB one was Curtis Painter, 2011.

• 1:40:59Speaker 01

  Oh no. Oh no.

• 1:41:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh no is right.

• 1:41:03Speaker 01

  Seen that movie before.

• 1:41:04Speaker 00

  Oh no is right.

• 1:41:06Speaker 01

  Uh, Curtis Painter Purdue?

• 1:41:07Speaker 00

  Curtis Painter.

• 1:41:09Speaker 01

  Where was he from?

• 1:41:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, he was Purdue and then he was, that was, that was the tank year. That was the year where they, where, where Peyton Manning's neck broke, right? I'm pretty sure that was, I, did they, they won one game, I think. Okay. Do they win a game? They go, no, they didn't go on.

• 1:41:26Speaker 01

  No, they didn't go on six. We, the, uh, the Lions did it and then the Browns did it.

• 1:41:30Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, I think they won one game that year.

• 1:41:33Speaker 01

  One or two. Yeah.

• 1:41:34Speaker 00

  Two games. I think where Lofsky started. Oh, that's what Curtis Painter's up to. He's a former NFL quarterback, currently managing partner of Indiana Liquor Group. All right.

• 1:41:43Speaker 01

  Hell yeah, dude.

• 1:41:44Speaker 00

  Good for Curtis Painter. Good for Curtis Painter. Curtis Painter, Dan Orlovsky and a 39 year old Kerry Collins were the starters for that team.

• 1:41:54Speaker 01

  Let's go.

• 1:41:56Speaker 00

  That's pretty crazy.

• 1:41:57Speaker 01

  I did see, uh, Philip Rivers took the NC State coaching job.

• 1:42:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's going to be awesome.

• 1:42:02Speaker 01

  Won't come back this year for the Colts.

• 1:42:04Speaker 00

  That's going to be awesome.

• 1:42:05Speaker 01

  That'll be great. I can't wait for it.

• 1:42:06Speaker 00

  So excited. So, so excited. And I assume that was partially just because they're like, well, now we have at least six scholarships spoken for with just getting all the Rivers boys.

• 1:42:17Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, I also think that it's a win-win. Now Philip Rivers probably saves like close to $2 million on tuition.

• 1:42:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:42:24Speaker 01

  Cause he's got a place for all his kids to go.

• 1:42:25Speaker 00

  Yep. I wonder if he tries to have more kids now that he's the coach.

• 1:42:29Speaker 01

  Probably. Yeah.

• 1:42:29Speaker 00

  He's like, I'm going to be the coach for the next 20 years.

• 1:42:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, probably.

• 1:42:32Speaker 00

  We gotta, we gotta make sure we got some guys.

• 1:42:34Speaker 01

  Every coach at NC State should have to wear the, uh, the Chuck Amato glasses.

• 1:42:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, that'd be sick.

• 1:42:39Speaker 01

  I miss those.

• 1:42:39Speaker 00

  Chuck Amato had great glasses.

• 1:42:41Speaker 01

  They were aggressive Oakleys.

• 1:42:42Speaker 00

  They were the, uh, remember I got into the, uh, tactical glasses? I bought those during, um, COVID. It's supposed to make your eyesight better.

• 1:42:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:51Speaker 00

  The yellow tactical glasses. That's what Chuck Amato was kind of rocking.

• 1:42:54Speaker 01

  Look at these.

• 1:42:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, dude.

• 1:42:57Speaker 01

  Just intense.

• 1:42:57Speaker 00

  The Oakley forum. I haven't been on in a while.

• 1:42:59Speaker 01

  Those are almost too sexual.

• 1:43:01Speaker 00

  Those are X metal. The.

• 1:43:03Speaker 01

  The proprietary alloy that Oakley made?

• 1:43:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:05Speaker 01

  Pretty impressive.

• 1:43:06Speaker 00

  Oh, they, they made it and no one else, X metal only exists in Oakley's?

• 1:43:11Speaker 01

  They developed X metal, yes.

• 1:43:13Speaker 00

  That's pretty damn.

• 1:43:14Speaker 01

  They invented their own metal.

• 1:43:16Speaker 00

  I'd like to talk to the guy who's created Oakley's. He just seems like a guy rock. He's like, what if we made sunglasses? Sunglasses in general are just cool, right? Like just the idea of them. But he's like, but what if we made a mega cool? And we made everyone seem like a boss all the time.

• 1:43:34Speaker 01

  What if we made sunglasses, but also made them way more expensive? You fucking genius.

• 1:43:42Speaker 00

  But, but also for guys that need to be respected, they go perfectly, a perfect accompaniment with their sick motorcycle.

• 1:43:51Speaker 01

  Let's see, this dude dropped that. He's a double dropout. So he dropped out of high school. And then he dropped out of college too.

• 1:43:58Speaker 00

  Hell yeah.

• 1:43:59Speaker 01

  Let's go. So he went to high school.

• 1:44:01Speaker 00

  How'd he get into college?

• 1:44:02Speaker 01

  Dropped out. I don't know. He got into the USC School of Pharmacy, probably just to get access. And then dropped out to travel to southwestern United States on a motorcycle.

• 1:44:12Speaker 00

  That's pretty damn cool. Yeah, the fucking hog.

• 1:44:14Speaker 01

  Yep. He named the company after his dog.

• 1:44:17Speaker 00

  That's so awesome.

• 1:44:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, this rocks.

• 1:44:18Speaker 00

  Yeah. This guy's basically like just, he, he's, he's a sublime song come to life.

• 1:44:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, he is.

• 1:44:25Speaker 00

  Good for him. And shout out Chuck Amato. Where is he dead or alive Chuck Amato? I assume. I believe dead. Oh, dead shit. Damn it. Guess wrong on that one. Fifty fifty shot.

• 1:44:35Speaker 01

  No way.

• 1:44:36Speaker 00

  Fifty fifty shot. Got it wrong. Chuck Amato, dead. Well, just.

• 1:44:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, he died.

• 1:44:44Speaker 00

  Passed away.

• 1:44:45Speaker 01

  He died like a month ago.

• 1:44:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's where I saw it. Oh, damn.

• 1:44:49Speaker 01

  Damn. He died October 19.

• 1:44:50Speaker 00

  How'd you miss it on the birthdays?

• 1:44:52Speaker 01

  I don't do death days.

• 1:44:54Speaker 00

  Maybe next year?

• 1:44:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:44:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. Or just like this person died on this day.

• 1:45:00Speaker 01

  No, no, we should do in memoriam every week.

• 1:45:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:45:04Speaker 01

  Why wait for once a year when you see it at the Oscars or in an Adam Schefter tweet?

• 1:45:08Speaker 00

  It'd be nice.

• 1:45:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:45:09Speaker 00

  It'd be nice. I would have, I would have liked to know. I would have liked to be able to mourn Chuck Amato.

• 1:45:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, I would too.

• 1:45:15Speaker 00

  You think they put some, do you think they put glasses in his coffin?

• 1:45:19Speaker 01

  I, I do. I do think so, yeah.

• 1:45:21Speaker 00

  I hope so.

• 1:45:21Speaker 01

  And I think they had a couple Wolfpack guys be pallbearers so they could let him down one last time.

• 1:45:27Speaker 00

  Why you keep, you keep typing in Chuck Tomato? Well, cause it's the burner? That's crazy burner. Yeah, I know. That's great.

• 1:45:33Speaker 01

  Did you know that it came from Chuck Amato?

• 1:45:36Speaker 00

  Now I do. Oh, you didn't know that? Yeah. I've, I've never heard this name before.

• 1:45:40Speaker 01

  Strong Italian man.

• 1:45:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. Love that. He's fucking, he looked awesome on the sidelines. Awesome. Okay. Afternoon games.

• 1:45:49Speaker 01

  What game was that?

• 1:45:49Speaker 00

  That was Cowboys Colts.

• 1:45:51Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 1:45:52Speaker 00

  Cowboys Colts. We, the, this is where we get, we're, we're about to get to the point of the season where it's like, there's some games. And I know the Cowboys are very much still alive.

• 1:46:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. So this game today, I think was important for the Cowboys because they can't, you can't lose the heartbreaking stupid losses against teams like the Colts. Because that way, when you do have a heartbreaking stupid loss, it's, it's a little bit more special.

• 1:46:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, like next week they play the 49ers. I predict that the Cowboys are going to be winning late and blow it.

• 1:46:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:46:20Speaker 00

  That will be fun.

• 1:46:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:46:21Speaker 00

  Cause it'll be like, maybe the Giants, I don't know who the Giants have next week. Maybe the Giants, oh no, they play the commanders.

• 1:46:27Speaker 01

  Commanders, yeah.

• 1:46:28Speaker 00

  Commanders beat Giants on Thursday night football. Cowboys go up against the Niners. You're like, hey, if the Cowboys win the game, they're going to be like right there in the NFC East. They're winning the game for 59 minutes.

• 1:46:38Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:46:38Speaker 00

  Loss. Jerry Jones. Ha, ha, ha. That was fun.

• 1:46:41Speaker 01

  That's important. If they, if they lose every, every week like that, it just becomes sad.

• 1:46:45Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:46:46Speaker 01

  And it's not.

• 1:46:46Speaker 00

  They're just pathetic.

• 1:46:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're pathetic team. Now they're like, you have to, they have to have the illusion of expectation.

• 1:46:52Speaker 00

  We need to have at least, we need to have at least one week where Stephen A. Smith's like, watch out for the Cowboys.

• 1:46:56Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:46:57Speaker 00

  What were you gonna say, Max?

• 1:47:00Speaker 00

  I have nothing to say about the Cowboys. The Cowboys are a sad football team. Whoa, well, you.

• 1:47:05Speaker 01

  They won today.

• 1:47:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, but they're sad. Max, what do you say to the people that are like coming at you when you, when you treat about another football team? They're like, you're two and seven. You're just like injured? Cause I've. Injured. You haven't had to deal with this in a while. In, injured. I know. I was just wondering, cause like you, you have not had. And, and injuries have kind of saved my football season. But also it's always funny, like you, just because i- if your team is bad, doesn't mean you can't talk about other bad teams.

• 1:47:31Speaker 01

  Correct. Yeah.

• 1:47:32Speaker 00

  It's crazy.

• 1:47:33Speaker 01

  In fact, I think that like.

• 1:47:34Speaker 00

  We would, we literally wouldn't have a show.

• 1:47:35Speaker 01

  Yeah. The fact that I root for a bad team gives me a lot of experience to be able to identify other bad teams. Like I'm more, excuse me, I'm more qualified to talk about than most people.

• 1:47:45Speaker 00

  You know, you know it when you see it.

• 1:47:47Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 1:47:47Speaker 00

  Whoever smelt the delta. For sure.

• 1:47:49Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:47:50Speaker 00

  What were you gonna say? I'm just thinking, this afternoon slate of games, I would like to talk, ask Stat Hole Sports maybe this question. Is this, was this the worst slate in the history of the NFL? It was bad, man. Like the, the average, like. The closest. Point differential? Yeah, the closest game was Seahawks Cardinals, which was an absolute snooze fest. Drew Lock versus Gardner Minshew was never, it was seventeen thirteen, seventeen three, but it was not seventeen three. The Seahawks throttled them. But yeah, no, this was a bad afternoon. Bad afternoon.

• 1:48:25Speaker 01

  And it's so disappointing to have like Drew Lock and Gardner Minshew, in theory should be entertaining quarterbacks.

• 1:48:30Speaker 00

  So fun.

• 1:48:31Speaker 01

  We should not have a game like that between the two of them.

• 1:48:33Speaker 00

  And it was not fun at all.

• 1:48:34Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:48:35Speaker 00

  What's the afternoon slate next week, Max? We have at least, I think it's, uh, we just didn't, do you know what it is too? And, and we can go through the afternoon slate pretty quickly because. Stinkers. Stinkers. Do you know what it is? I think this might be the earliest that we're at a point where both AFC and NFC, you can basically draw a line right in the middle and there's not a lot of teams, like if you look at the playoff picture right now, right? I'm going to pull it up, but if you pull it up on the screen, like if you look at the playoff picture, after the, in the AFC especially, the Patriots are the seven seed, the eight and nine seed are the Browns and the Raiders.

• 1:49:19Speaker 00

  Like what are we talking about? You know what I mean? Like the Texans might, Texans maybe will, will go on a run here because they've done it. And we have to expect that they could still do it. But like, I feel like the AFC playoffs are kind of already set, except for the Texans.

• 1:49:33Speaker 01

  They're pretty much set. I, I would like to make a change, to nominate a change for this year because we, we talk a lot about the in the hunt graphic. Since the inception of part of my take, we've always kind of focused in on the in the hunt. And if you're a fan of a bad football team, you kind of live to have your name in the, in the hunt section for way, way too long. This year, it feels like when you look at that graphic, there needs to be a second category that just says technically in the hunt, but come on.

• 1:50:00Speaker 00

  But come on, the Raiders and Browns.

• 1:50:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, Raiders, Browns should be in there. Like there, there should be, there are teams that are certainly technically in the hunt, but come on.

• 1:50:07Speaker 00

  And then the NFC.

• 1:50:08Speaker 01

  Very few that are in the hunt, but not already in the playoffs.

• 1:50:11Speaker 00

  And the NFC is a little bit deeper in the fact that the Seahawks and the Rams, I still think one of those two teams will most likely find a way in. But then you get to the, then after that, it just falls off a cliff. Cause like whoever's going to win the NFC East, whoever's going to win the NFC South. Like that's all we're going to decide here.

• 1:50:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:50:27Speaker 00

  So yeah, I think maybe that's part of why, like an afternoon like this happens where it's like, it doesn't feel like there's that many big games. Cause it's like, all right, good team, bad team, good team, bad team. Like Niners Raiders, like what? Raiders were never going to win that.

• 1:50:41Speaker 01

  No, I can't. No, the second half, I think it was, uh, the, the Raiders might've had six.

• 1:50:45Speaker 00

  Five second half turnovers.

• 1:50:47Speaker 01

  Yeah. So they had six drives and five turnovers.

• 1:50:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's crazy.

• 1:50:51Speaker 01

  Just dog shit football.

• 1:50:52Speaker 00

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• 1:51:57Speaker 00

  Uh, all right, let's just do it quick. Let's rip through it. Texans forty-four, Chargers twenty-two. Hank, did you have the Chargers?

• 1:52:03Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:52:03Speaker 00

  Can you stop? Do we need to have an intervention? Should this recap just be an intervention on you to stop betting on the Chargers? This team is so bad. They, they, they broke their, their drought, their TD drought, thirty-seven straight drives. Mike McDaniel had to go up to the box.

• 1:52:21Speaker 01

  He was in the booth today.

• 1:52:23Speaker 00

  Hank.

• 1:52:24Speaker 01

  Like that's embarrassing. He had to go, he had to sit in the culture and watch his team get.

• 1:52:27Speaker 00

  Oh, I know what he's gonna say. They're playing the Ravens on Monday night.

• 1:52:30Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:52:30Speaker 00

  Oh my.

• 1:52:31Speaker 05

  I just looked, cause I was about to say like I, I, you're not wrong that I should, but I can't. But God has given me an intervention by scheduling them for Monday night.

• 1:52:41Speaker 01

  That's the opposite of.

• 1:52:42Speaker 00

  No, he's saying he's gonna, they're gonna finally be out of the hungry dog, but he's still gonna bet him. He's gonna wean himself off Chargers.

• 1:52:48Speaker 01

  God is enabling you.

• 1:52:49Speaker 00

  No, no, this is good. You're right. You're gonna wean yourself. One more time, doesn't mess with the hungry dog. The hungry dog, by the way, was not affected by the Chargers.

• 1:52:58Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:52:58Speaker 01

  Did, how many legs hit?

• 1:53:01Speaker 05

  Uh, the hungry dog is three leg parlay. So parlay is how they work PFT. Like if one of your legs doesn't hit, then you lose. So like the hungry dog lost. So since like the Chargers lost.

• 1:53:10Speaker 01

  So at least, at least.

• 1:53:11Speaker 00

  If the Chargers hit one, wouldn't it have won?

• 1:53:13Speaker 01

  At least one leg missed.

• 1:53:13Speaker 05

  But that's how it works, Dan. Like it's, it's, it's like you need all three to win in, in order for it to be successful. And today was not successful.

• 1:53:21Speaker 00

  Question.

• 1:53:22Speaker 05

  Uh, yes.

• 1:53:23Speaker 00

  Do you think you needed more time?

• 1:53:27Speaker 05

  What do you mean?

• 1:53:28Speaker 00

  To pick the hungry dog. Do you think maybe you needed like all the way till tonight?

• 1:53:32Speaker 05

  No, I needed to not pick the Chargers.

• 1:53:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:53:35Speaker 05

  I think the picks were good.

• 1:53:36Speaker 00

  But we, you know, like there was a do to do on Friday. Should you need more time?

• 1:53:39Speaker 05

  They were good picks.

• 1:53:40Speaker 00

  Saw Paul Paul come to your rescue.

• 1:53:41Speaker 01

  Yeah. Vice President Paul said, uh, yeah, you asked Hank basically on Tuesday to do the hungry dog.

• 1:53:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:53:47Speaker 01

  So Hank, I actually think that you should do the hungry dog right now.

• 1:53:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:53:50Speaker 01

  Next week.

• 1:53:50Speaker 00

  Do it. Come on.

• 1:53:51Speaker 01

  Right now.

• 1:53:52Speaker 00

  Subject to change, but do it.

• 1:53:53Speaker 01

  We gotta change something though.

• 1:53:54Speaker 00

  Subject to change, but do it. By the way, someone, I wish I had done this. Someone, when I was doing my fantasy quarter this morning, someone's like, you should, you need to start just doing the fat cat and just, it's just the reverse hungry dog would have hit today. Would have been a nice hit too.

• 1:54:09Speaker 01

  Like the three biggest favorites?

• 1:54:10Speaker 00

  No, no, no. Just whatever the hungry dog is.

• 1:54:13Speaker 01

  Of the opposite, yeah, the fades, yeah.

• 1:54:14Speaker 00

  I would never do that to my boy Hank.

• 1:54:16Speaker 01

  That'd be mean.

• 1:54:17Speaker 00

  All right, Hank. Hungry dog.

• 1:54:19Speaker 05

  Dolphins, Vikings, Saints.

• 1:54:24Speaker 00

  All right. So the Dolphin, the Vikings are playing at the Packers. The Dolphins are playing the Colts. And the Saints are at home against the Panthers. I like this one Hank. I like this one a lot.

• 1:54:35Speaker 01

  What are the, uh, what's the, the spread on Saints Panthers?

• 1:54:39Speaker 00

  I like this one a lot.

• 1:54:40Speaker 05

  One and a half Panthers.

• 1:54:42Speaker 00

  No, it's money lines. It's money lines, dude.

• 1:54:44Speaker 05

  No, no, that's what I'm saying. He asked what the spread was.

• 1:54:46Speaker 00

  No, he's putting in the spreads. He doesn't get the hungry dog. I know. That was a brain fart.

• 1:54:50Speaker 01

  Yeah. When Max hears spreads, he thinks fluff or nutter.

• 1:54:54Speaker 00

  Fo- fo- fluff or nutter Eagles? Get to the sink. Uh.

• 1:54:59Speaker 05

  I mean, the Chargers like it's.

• 1:55:01Speaker 00

  It's so bad.

• 1:55:02Speaker 05

  It's just because it's the Chargers and it's like Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert. In the NFL, you assume like bad teams still have good weeks, bad teams fight, bad teams will, will surprise some people. And the Chargers are like the definition of like, they should be able to

• 1:55:17Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:55:18Speaker 05

  win a game.

• 1:55:19Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:55:19Speaker 05

  A game.

• 1:55:20Speaker 00

  They surprise us every week by being bad, just as bad as last week.

• 1:55:24Speaker 05

  Like the Titans last week were like.

• 1:55:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:55:27Speaker 01

  I am surprised.

• 1:55:28Speaker 05

  Almost beat the Bengals. They were playing great. There was a shootout. Like they've had a couple of games like that.

• 1:55:32Speaker 00

  That's the thing. They do surprise us because they're just every week, they're almost worse.

• 1:55:36Speaker 01

  Yeah. Like a bad team. I, I, I shouldn't be, get this surprised by a bad team every week, but I do with the Chargers.

• 1:55:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:55:42Speaker 01

  They find different ways to just look worse and worse and worse.

• 1:55:46Speaker 00

  Jim Harbaugh.

• 1:55:46Speaker 05

  They gotta be the biggest like preseason rank win over under to what they're gonna end up with like of all time.

• 1:55:53Speaker 00

  They were like the sixth odds, six best, best odds to win the Superbowl in the, in the preseason. I picked them to go to the Superbowl in the preseason. Oh no.

• 1:56:02Speaker 01

  I picked, I, I picked, uh.

• 1:56:03Speaker 00

  More like the pooper bowl. I might actually have had the worst picks of all time. I had Jordan Love as the LVP as well.

• 1:56:09Speaker 01

  Herbert was my MVP.

• 1:56:11Speaker 00

  Oh, that's pretty bad. Yeah, yeah, it's bad.

• 1:56:12Speaker 01

  That was a big stupid pick on my part.

• 1:56:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. He finally did get his touchdown though. Quentin Johnson in pretty much garbage time. By the way, CJ Stroud's awesome. He played incredible five touchdowns. The Texans do have an offense now, like Tank Dell all the way back, scored a touchdown. Nico Collins incredible catch. Marvin Harrison Jr. Is getting involved. I also will say this about CJ Stroud. You know, it's going well when CJ Stroud's like those 15 yard outrouts that he like almost float, like it has velocity on it, but it like feels like the ball's floating. That's when you know he's back and he had those today where they were like just beautiful balls, uh, that he was throwing.

• 1:56:54Speaker 01

  I know the ones you're talking, the ones that he throws almost like, uh, like two steps before the receiver even makes the cut.

• 1:57:00Speaker 00

  And they feel like they're floating because they, they feel like they don't have a lot of zip on it, but they do have a lot of zip on it and they're, he's almost shook like, you know?

• 1:57:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:57:08Speaker 00

  To, to throw it out there to someone who, uh, we love his balls.

• 1:57:11Speaker 01

  Also booty, Keshon booty.

• 1:57:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:57:13Speaker 01

  125 yards. I believe he had two touchdowns today. Just crushed it. I, booty's playing really, really well right now.

• 1:57:20Speaker 00

  Yeah. They've, CJ Stroud, 384 yards, five touchdowns. So yeah, the Texans, I mean, they should do this to the Chargers. I do, I do not think the Texans are, uh, have, we, we have heard the last of the Texans. Like I do think that's a team that they, they, cause just based on their history, if they get hot.

• 1:57:36Speaker 01

  Well, their, uh, their defense, like the sacks came in, in, uh, in spades today. I think they had eight sacks. Will Anderson, uh, Jadevion Clowney.

• 1:57:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:57:46Speaker 01

  Got on the board. The defense, when they can pin their ears back like that, they can still do it. There were boos. I don't know. It was it, was this Chargers fans that are booing their own team?

• 1:57:56Speaker 00

  Maybe.

• 1:57:57Speaker 01

  Cause you could hear him on the broadcast today.

• 1:57:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:57:59Speaker 01

  So I guess shout out to the Chargers for having enough fans at their own stadium that you could hear the boos.

• 1:58:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, they booed. Um, also Jim Harbaugh was asked, uh, what does he say to, or on if, what he's saying resonating with the team? He said, stay together, bitter pill to swallow anytime you don't win a game. So that's just every week.

• 1:58:18Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. Yeah. He's just taking medicine.

• 1:58:21Speaker 00

  DJ Ongulalele got in. He scored a touchdown.

• 1:58:24Speaker 01

  Touchdown, yeah.

• 1:58:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. That's enough on this game.

• 1:58:27Speaker 01

  Uh, booty has 11.4 yards per target. That is better than every Patriots receiver, uh, 20 or more targets.

• 1:58:35Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 1:58:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:58:35Speaker 00

  Damn. All right. Real quick.

• 1:58:37Speaker 01

  Can you miss him Hank?

• 1:58:38Speaker 05

  Kind of.

• 1:58:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, you got it.

• 1:58:39Speaker 05

  I mean, yeah.

• 1:58:40Speaker 00

  This point.

• 1:58:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:58:41Speaker 00

  Seahawks 17 Cardinals three. Drew Locke versus Gardner Minshew. It was a dot of a game. The Seahawks just completely swallowed the Cardinals. Their defense, the, they're just fine. Get Sam Darnold healthy. Also the big news for the Seahawks was Zach Charbonne looks good again. Like he came back. I think last week was his first game, but he, he had some pop to him. They could run the ball. Uh, so good for them. Good for the Seahawks. I, I think the Seahawks are another team. Like that will be an interesting who, who, how it shakes out with the NFC, cause it does feel like there are nine, well, taking out the NFC South and the NFC East, there are seven good teams.

• 1:59:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:59:26Speaker 00

  For five playoff spots. All of the NFC North and then the Seahawks, Rams and 49ers.

• 1:59:33Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, this game today, it was, it was so bad. It was so boring. I, I had it on the, uh, like a multi-view on the TV in the corner in this room. And nothing happened in the game after the second quarter. So it was, I think the Cardinals got a field goal on, was it their first drive of the game?

• 1:59:50Speaker 00

  I think so.

• 1:59:50Speaker 01

  I think it's the opening drive and then they didn't do anything.

• 1:59:53Speaker 00

  Nope.

• 1:59:53Speaker 01

  From that point on. And then, uh, AJ Barner had a big second quarter. Scored two touchdowns, right?

• 1:59:59Speaker 00

  And then that was it.

• 2:00:00Speaker 01

  And then that was it. That was, that was the end of the day as far as the scoring went. And then we find out after the game, Drew Locke has an oblique.

• 2:00:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:00:07Speaker 01

  So Drew Locke might be injured.

• 2:00:09Speaker 00

  Who, he was also dealing with what elbow before this week? They're saying he, he hadn't been able to practice.

• 2:00:14Speaker 01

  Tendonitis, I think.

• 2:00:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. So.

• 2:00:17Speaker 01

  So I don't know.

• 2:00:18Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 2:00:19Speaker 01

  Like is, uh, is Sammy coming back?

• 2:00:22Speaker 00

  No, the, uh, what's the guy's name? The.

• 2:00:25Speaker 01

  Oh, uh, Milrow.

• 2:00:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, Alabama. Maybe he'd be fun.

• 2:00:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:00:30Speaker 00

  I don't know. The Seahawks, the Seahawks are good. They're, they're a good team. They just gotta start winning games and it started today. Drew Locke, by the way, has started two games this season and he's two and O against the Cardinals. So he's a Cardinals killer. He's like a big pane of glass that you can't, can't tell if it's. I got, by the way, I got, I, I don't know if it's bad luck or not, but there's a, I got a dead bird in my like backyard, like probably once every three days. Cause there's like a big pane of glass for my kitchen and they just fucking die bombing.

• 2:01:01Speaker 01

  You hear that memes? You hear that big window?

• 2:01:03Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:01:04Speaker 01

  He's got a big window and a big window.

• 2:01:06Speaker 00

  Big ass window. But, but they don't tell you that now you gotta pick up dead birds every day memes. So it's really.

• 2:01:11Speaker 05

  Viking stadium.

• 2:01:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, it is. It is. You got, you're, you got big windows. You got any birds?

• 2:01:17Speaker 05

  No, spiders. Yeah.

• 2:01:19Speaker 01

  Spiders fly into his window all the time.

• 2:01:21Speaker 05

  That's, that's broke bullshit though.

• 2:01:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. I'm sad about the birds though.

• 2:01:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's tough. Do you hear them?

• 2:01:26Speaker 00

  I did hear one the other day where it was like a big thud, but that one actually flew off.

• 2:01:31Speaker 05

  Should get a cat.

• 2:01:32Speaker 00

  No, they die on the, I don't need a cat. Why would I need a cat? To eat, to, to.

• 2:01:36Speaker 01

  To eat the dead bodies.

• 2:01:37Speaker 00

  Birds?

• 2:01:37Speaker 05

  Dispose of them?

• 2:01:39Speaker 00

  No, I, I go out and pick them up and throw them out.

• 2:01:42Speaker 01

  You probably throw them on the ground, feed the rats.

• 2:01:45Speaker 00

  You gotta like.

• 2:01:46Speaker 01

  That's what they do in Chicago now.

• 2:01:47Speaker 00

  Like dead birds everywhere. Sometimes they ask. How's that? I say that fucking dumbass bird. Yeah. Didn't know a window was there. It's pretty easy. Yeah.

• 2:01:56Speaker 01

  If you just put little dots across the window, they won't fly into it.

• 2:02:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, but then I gotta look at dots on my window?

• 2:02:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:02:02Speaker 00

  Well, it's not as bad. I'm not inconvenienced myself.

• 2:02:04Speaker 01

  Listen, there's an, we got more than enough birds.

• 2:02:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. There's also, it's a problem because the, the, the tree has, uh, the, some type of seed or something that the birds like to eat. The government's probably just trying to get, get to your house. Yeah. They'll be gone soon. You know?

• 2:02:18Speaker 01

  Cause it's so big.

• 2:02:20Speaker 00

  Yeah. That's exactly what it is. Birds, government.

• 2:02:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:02:24Speaker 00

  I'm getting window shamed.

• 2:02:28Speaker 00

  Get window shamed. Uh, all right. Anything else on, oh, also Seahawks. I'll say this, the winning a game this, in this resounding fashion without having JSN go off, go nuclear is a good sign.

• 2:02:42Speaker 01

  It is good. Yeah. You got, you got Barner.

• 2:02:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:02:45Speaker 01

  He can score too. But yeah, this game was just, it's such a bummer. Trey McBride looked good again. I feel bad for him.

• 2:02:51Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:02:51Speaker 01

  Uh, apparently the Broncos called and asked about Trey McBride.

• 2:02:55Speaker 00

  Oh, that would have been fun.

• 2:02:56Speaker 01

  And, uh, and, and they said, no, we're not dealing them, which yeah, of course these, he's your only good player. Why would you trade him?

• 2:03:04Speaker 00

  Do you think there's ever like GMs that call and like truly are just asking about someone, but not trying to trade?

• 2:03:11Speaker 01

  Just like, would you? I'm just curious.

• 2:03:12Speaker 00

  No, no, not even that.

• 2:03:13Speaker 01

  He's a gossipy guy.

• 2:03:14Speaker 00

  No, I'm saying like, if the Broncos called and they're like, hey, what's up with Trey McBride? Is he still good? And the car was like, yeah, he's good. He's like, all right, cool. That was it. They were just asking to see how he's doing.

• 2:03:26Speaker 01

  That's what I thought.

• 2:03:26Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he's doing well.

• 2:03:30Speaker 01

  It's like.

• 2:03:30Speaker 00

  Good. Kids are good.

• 2:03:31Speaker 01

  The guy calls up and he's just like, I, I only want to know for my fantasy team because I have him.

• 2:03:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:36Speaker 01

  What's his deal? Is he going to get traded or is he going to play this weekend?

• 2:03:39Speaker 00

  Everyone gets, that would have been a fun trade.

• 2:03:41Speaker 01

  That would have been a fun trade. Yeah. That would have been the old, the old, uh, Jake Plummer.

• 2:03:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. That would have been a very fun trade. All right. Uh, 49ers Raiders, which we already talked about a little bit. 38 17, 17 Raiders. Their defense is so, so bad. One of the worst in the league. Brock Purdy, Brock Purdy's just good. He's one of those guys now. He's reached a level where I just expect every pass, like the, like, it's like old Aaron Rodgers when it's like, when the ball is released, you just know someone's about to catch it on the other end. When you're watching the TV version, like you just know, like he's throwing the ball for a reason and the reason is it's going to be a completion.

• 2:04:21Speaker 01

  He's also really, really smart about when to run.

• 2:04:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:04:24Speaker 01

  And it's not like he's, uh, unathletic or slow because he's not, he's, he's pretty quick. Uh, but it's more that he's very smart and quick at the same time. So like when he chooses to run, it's usually for a good reason. He knows that he can get there. So he's, uh, yeah, he, I, I had him as my MVP a few weeks ago. I don't think he's MVP right now. Um, but if they finish strong, he definitely could be, especially considering that like, they're going through the same shit where they're getting decimated at wide receiver again. And if their offense is able to continue like it has been, and he's playing at the level.

• 2:04:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:04:56Speaker 01

  Uh, that, that he started the year out, he, he very well could wind up being the MVP.

• 2:05:00Speaker 00

  Absolutely. I feel like we're getting closer to maybe, well, we should have said it for the Cardinals. Carson Beck, I don't know why we don't play him. Uh,

• 2:05:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:05:09Speaker 00

  Fernando, not the Kirk has been bad, but it's like, you're just losing games and there were just turnovers and the, by the way, the, the most who's back of the week thing ever is the peanut punch. Cause every guy feels like they perfected it in the off season.

• 2:05:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:05:24Speaker 00

  There's been so.

• 2:05:25Speaker 05

  There was like a seminar or something.

• 2:05:26Speaker 00

  It's crazy.

• 2:05:27Speaker 05

  Got held.

• 2:05:29Speaker 00

  Maybe Peanut Tillman did it.

• 2:05:30Speaker 05

  It's, it's, seems like there's been more peanut punches this year than the history of the NFL.

• 2:05:35Speaker 00

  It's nuts. Yeah.

• 2:05:37Speaker 05

  Prior.

• 2:05:37Speaker 00

  They had the one, I, I was, I tweeted during the Niners Raiders game, we're just getting peanut punched out of overs because that, the Brock, I think it was, or maybe Michael Mayer got peanut punched at like the one yard line.

• 2:05:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:05:50Speaker 00

  It just keeps happening. Yeah. Guys are just doing it perfectly now.

• 2:05:54Speaker 01

  Uh, Landman was really good at it today. He's just got like a target on that thing.

• 2:05:58Speaker 00

  Yeah. Fred Warner, Fred Warner, he's defensive player of the year, possibly, maybe, I think so. I don't even know what, what's a, well, yeah, he's second, six to one. I feel like that's not a bad bet, especially with the fact that Will Anderson, the Texans don't make it to playoffs. Hmm. Okay. Uh,

• 2:06:20Speaker 01

  Ayuk, Ayuk came back to the facility today.

• 2:06:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, Friday.

• 2:06:24Speaker 01

  Friday. Yeah.

• 2:06:25Speaker 00

  I'm starting to think that Kyle Shanahan doesn't like Brandon Ayuk. Maybe need a little bit more, uh,

• 2:06:30Speaker 01

  They'll work their way back.

• 2:06:32Speaker 00

  I love that. I love Kyle Shanahan was kept on getting asked. He's like, I don't care.

• 2:06:36Speaker 01

  He's too lumbered.

• 2:06:37Speaker 00

  I do not care. I do not think about it. They went around the locker room and asked everyone. Kittle was just like, he's like, you think they're going to let him in? And then they're like, what do you mean? Like the reporter thought he had something. Kittle was like, I don't know. Don't ask me.

• 2:06:50Speaker 05

  Do you think they're going to let him in?

• 2:06:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. It's great.

• 2:06:53Speaker 01

  I love how Rosenhaus is just like, the only difference between the relationship between Ayuk and the Niners from what it was like two weeks ago is the fact that Drew Rosenhaus is calling reporters and telling them what they're about to do and steps in the process. And so everyone kind of has an idea. They still, they still hate the guy.

• 2:07:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:09Speaker 01

  And he's still a weirdo.

• 2:07:10Speaker 00

  I'm so dumb. I, I did for a second was like, maybe they'll just, they don't have any wide receivers. What if they just brought them back? But I think there's probably been enough bad blood that they can't get over this one.

• 2:07:21Speaker 01

  I think that, yeah, that bridge is probably burned.

• 2:07:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Um, all right, Hank. You want to do it?

• 2:07:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, let's do it.

• 2:07:29Speaker 00

  Packers 45, Patriots 27. We'll start with the Packers. Jordan Love was sensational. Dropping like just deep bombs left and right. Christian Watson and Matthew Golden both remembered how to catch. And they are so, so scary when they catch. They have, uh, between the two of them, they have 1,662 reception yards this year, and that's more than 29 other teams wide receiver rooms. They're so fucking good, so scary. The Packers, I mean, they're good. They don't even have Micah Parsons yet. Like they're just, Jonathan Gannon has been doing an awesome job with that defense.

• 2:08:10Speaker 00

  Jordan Love's playing at MVP level. I'm scared. They're scary. They're, it's, it's nuts to think back to like week three. Remember that Falcons game?

• 2:08:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:18Speaker 00

  And everyone was freaking out and all the Packers fans were like, oh, this team sucks. And I was like, I'm, I'm, I'm never going to bury the Packers because those zombies. Now they're back playing great football and their defense is flying around and.

• 2:08:32Speaker 01

  The offensive line is protecting.

• 2:08:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:08:33Speaker 01

  Like that, that was a big deal earlier on.

• 2:08:35Speaker 00

  And Jordan Love is just good. Like he's just throwing these, these, he just takes deep shot after deep shot.

• 2:08:40Speaker 01

  Cause he was getting hit. He didn't have a lot of time in the first, first few weeks when they were playing with like, I don't know, two fifths of their offensive line. Uh, but yeah, the deep shots, the little fadeaways.

• 2:08:50Speaker 00

  23 for 29.

• 2:08:52Speaker 01

  Yeah. Just, just when they're connecting with Golden, when he's catching the ball, the offense looks like it's unstoppable.

• 2:08:58Speaker 00

  And Christian Watson was insane. Christian Watson did the thing that like, I feel like he's taking it up a notch where the best wide receivers do this, where like they're, they're getting deep shots, but then they're so good with not getting their hands up till the very end. He had that one, there was that one play where I think he was down at the one. Uh, it was the one that Vrabel challenged, which might not have been a catch. He kept his hands down till the very last second that the, the Patriots defensive back like got almost juke'd out and, and jumped too early. And then he put his hands up. It was, they're, I'm scared. They're, they're a really good team.

• 2:09:35Speaker 01

  Do any receivers ever do, uh, early hands?

• 2:09:37Speaker 00

  That'd be good.

• 2:09:38Speaker 01

  Like they put the receiver, they put the hands up.

• 2:09:40Speaker 00

  Fake.

• 2:09:40Speaker 01

  Really fast. And then they draw the interference and then they put the hands up later when the ball's actually there.

• 2:09:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:09:45Speaker 01

  That's what I would do.

• 2:09:46Speaker 00

  But yeah, the.

• 2:09:46Speaker 01

  That was a weird challenge too, wasn't it?

• 2:09:48Speaker 00

  It was to get like two yards.

• 2:09:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:09:50Speaker 05

  No, it was, they were, they're seeing the contact happen at like the seven, which.

• 2:09:54Speaker 00

  So four yards?

• 2:09:56Speaker 05

  Or the one.

• 2:09:57Speaker 00

  Oh, is it the two?

• 2:09:59Speaker 01

  So five yards.

• 2:10:00Speaker 05

  That's a, that's a lot.

• 2:10:01Speaker 01

  Still weird.

• 2:10:02Speaker 05

  In the red zone.

• 2:10:03Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:10:03Speaker 05

  End of the half.

• 2:10:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. What, was it successful?

• 2:10:08Speaker 05

  It wasn't, but like, it wasn't like a, wasn't a, I don't know. At, at that point you use it, use it or lose it. Type of challenge.

• 2:10:16Speaker 00

  Well, no.

• 2:10:17Speaker 01

  Not the first half.

• 2:10:18Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's not a use it or lose it.

• 2:10:21Speaker 01

  You think of the timeout.

• 2:10:22Speaker 00

  You don't. Yeah.

• 2:10:23Speaker 05

  Do you lose a timeout?

• 2:10:24Speaker 01

  Timeout is use it or lose it, but the challenges.

• 2:10:28Speaker 01

  You save it and crave it.

• 2:10:29Speaker 05

  Got it.

• 2:10:30Speaker 01

  Um, what do you think about Tom Brady? He seemed to really enjoy this game. That's what I liked. Like last year, Tom Brady didn't necessarily have like the most enthusiasm, I thought. Today, you could hear in his voice. He loved calling this football game.

• 2:10:45Speaker 05

  I think he was asking you.

• 2:10:46Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:10:46Speaker 01

  No, I was asking you, Hank.

• 2:10:48Speaker 00

  I think Tom Brady's got a lot better as an announcer. Also, it's pretty crazy, that story about Evan Williams mom being his babysitter.

• 2:10:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:10:54Speaker 00

  That, that was nuts. There's not many fun facts that can like wow you, but the fact that he was in the like pre-game meeting with Evan Williams and Evan Williams was like, hey, just so you know, my mom babysat you.

• 2:11:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:11:08Speaker 00

  That's fucking crazy.

• 2:11:09Speaker 01

  It's pretty good.

• 2:11:10Speaker 00

  He had no idea. He's like, what?

• 2:11:12Speaker 01

  Yeah. Hank, what are your thoughts? Do you think Tom Brady really loved calling this game?

• 2:11:15Speaker 05

  I think Tom Brady probably like, I, they were Fox, I don't know who's, if that was like maybe Brady or whoever were they like, we got to really hype up the fact that Brady's coming back to New England for this game. Like all of the pre-game stuff, which I appreciate Brady and, and, and enjoyed seeing him back there for like the Gronk ceremony and, and all the retirement stuff or the Hall of Fame stuff.

• 2:11:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:11:36Speaker 05

  But all of the commercials pregame were like, Tom Brady returns to Fox, bro. It's like, he's not, he wasn't playing. Like he, he did do that as a player and it was a little more important to the game storyline, but like this was, you know, Drake May and, and the Patriots versus the Packers currently.

• 2:11:54Speaker 05

  I do think Brady, you know, whatever he says, he's never going to say the truth. I, I think he probably gets a little, a little bit of like happiness out of the fact that like the Patriots didn't look great today.

• 2:12:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:12:08Speaker 05

  They looked horrible, actually.

• 2:12:09Speaker 01

  He did seem to enjoy, at, at least one of the interceptions sounded like he, he loved it.

• 2:12:14Speaker 00

  What, uh, what are your thoughts on the game, Hank?

• 2:12:17Speaker 05

  It was ugly from the start. Christian Gonzalez looked like he got like his, his skills sucked out by a monster. Like I've never, I've never seen him, he doesn't usually have like a blip in the entire game. He was just getting, it looked like they were like targeting him.

• 2:12:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:12:31Speaker 05

  And just dominating him on every, on every snap, every coverage, every, everything. It was gross.

• 2:12:38Speaker 01

  Are you worried about that?

• 2:12:39Speaker 05

  The, if he plays like, yeah, that, yeah, absolutely. Like that, that was like, that was a, that was a, I don't know. I have no idea. It was so completely opposite of how he's always played that I don't even know how to classify that. I just hope it doesn't come out again, like, but it was really, really bad. Drake May had no.

• 2:12:59Speaker 00

  Next gen's that Christian Gonzalez allowed seven receptions for 105 yards to Matthew Golden and three receptions for 82 yards. Christian Watson Gonzalez is the only defender since at least 2018 to allow more than 80 receiving yards to two different players in the same game.

• 2:13:12Speaker 05

  It was, it was shocking.

• 2:13:13Speaker 00

  They were just going bombs away every single play.

• 2:13:16Speaker 01

  I feel like he has to be hurt because he was, he was so good. And then he signed a massive contract and now he's so bad.

• 2:13:25Speaker 05

  He hasn't been so bad, like he's been, he today, he was so bad. He was definitely so bad today.

• 2:13:32Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:13:32Speaker 05

  He was scary. He was like scary Terry out there, just terrible.

• 2:13:37Speaker 05

  Uh, and then the, the, the past, they know they didn't like the offensive line was bad. Drake may, two of those interceptions were, were really bad.

• 2:13:47Speaker 05

  He didn't have a lot of time to throw, but it was just, it was ugly. I don't, it was, it was ugly. There was a little bit of hope after the Remondre Stevenson touchdown, but they, the defense couldn't stop anything. Next week is a must win. It's, it's a 100% season, season, season on the line. Must win. No place I'd rather do it than Germany.

• 2:14:12Speaker 01

  Question.

• 2:14:13Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 2:14:13Speaker 01

  Does the division still go through you?

• 2:14:15Speaker 05

  No. Well, we'll see what, how.

• 2:14:17Speaker 01

  It goes through Germany. Yeah. But, oh, so if the Bills lose, then the division still goes through you?

• 2:14:21Speaker 05

  I think so.

• 2:14:23Speaker 01

  Well, how so?

• 2:14:24Speaker 05

  I said, I think so.

• 2:14:25Speaker 01

  Your four losses, they only have one.

• 2:14:29Speaker 05

  So then, no.

• 2:14:31Speaker 01

  Okay. Division does not go through you.

• 2:14:33Speaker 05

  Nope.

• 2:14:35Speaker 01

  So big game. And when are you guys going to Germany?

• 2:14:38Speaker 05

  No, don't know. That's usually you tell me that.

• 2:14:42Speaker 05

  You're the plane guy.

• 2:14:43Speaker 01

  We usually figure that out on Friday. Yeah.

• 2:14:45Speaker 00

  It's true. We do.

• 2:14:47Speaker 01

  You had any concern that, uh, that Vrabel decided like, hey, to get ready for Germany, maybe I'll just grow a little mustache.

• 2:14:53Speaker 05

  It's gotta be a Movember thing. I think he does it for charity. Uh, I did have the thought during the game, like Vrabel's gotta get rid of the mustache tomorrow, but.

• 2:15:01Speaker 01

  Maybe just get rid of like half the mustache before they go to Berlin?

• 2:15:04Speaker 05

  No, no, but it was like, he was like, all right, we're gonna, you know?

• 2:15:08Speaker 05

  If you do, if this is your first game with the mustache and the game goes that badly, like the thought has to cross your mind, like let's just cancel the mustache, but I'm pretty sure it's like a Movember charity thing.

• 2:15:19Speaker 01

  I think you're right. I think you're right. But I would agree with that.

• 2:15:22Speaker 05

  Otherwise, otherwise like that should be gone tomorrow.

• 2:15:24Speaker 01

  If it's a debut of a mustache for no, if it's not charity related, if it's just like this mustache looks sweet as hell. And then you get your ass kicked. It's like, all right, mustache didn't work. I've tried everything. So you got the Lions in Germany and then you got the Chargers.

• 2:15:42Speaker 05

  Another we're gonna buy.

• 2:15:43Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Buy then Chargers, then Bills.

• 2:15:48Speaker 00

  Then, yeah, then they have Bills Vikings Chiefs.

• 2:15:52Speaker 05

  We gotta get to the buy. We gotta, we gotta get to the buy. We gotta get A.J. Brown healthy. We gotta, we gotta win going into the buy. And I think we'll be all right. Show up looking like that again. I, who knows?

• 2:16:04Speaker 01

  You needed A.J. Brown out there. That offense looks so much better when A.J.'s playing.

• 2:16:08Speaker 05

  He does. He looks sick in the huddle.

• 2:16:11Speaker 00

  What, is he coming back?

• 2:16:13Speaker 05

  I feel like he's probably not coming back till the buy, but it's, there's not really any clear reporting.

• 2:16:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:16:19Speaker 05

  So my guess would be that they're not gonna, especially after it, uh, Jalen Hurts, like they're not gonna just ship them on a long, you know, two-way, long distance plane ride right before the buy.

• 2:16:34Speaker 01

  Max, would you just pull up?

• 2:16:37Speaker 00

  Oh, this game that I like, normally like to play, my bad. I should, probably should have been doing this in my own time.

• 2:16:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, off the clock?

• 2:16:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:16:43Speaker 01

  Please. But now that you haven't pulled up, what game is it?

• 2:16:47Speaker 00

  Uh, it's hesstillrunning.com.

• 2:16:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, no, we've already seen that. It's a few weeks ago.

• 2:16:51Speaker 00

  It's a daily game. There's, I know. There's, uh, it's a daily game. So you can play this every day.

• 2:16:57Speaker 01

  Oh, they have the, they've uploaded the, the Green Bay throws.

• 2:17:01Speaker 00

  I guess. I haven't played yet. Hank is going to a different place right now mentally.

• 2:17:05Speaker 05

  Parents sister mass shooter found dead in Poland. Like I'm focused on like real world events. That is fucked up. And like, we should be talking about that. Ooh, new U.S. House members learn the ropes in D.C. Let's talk, let's talk about that.

• 2:17:20Speaker 01

  You wanna play it?

• 2:17:20Speaker 00

  I'll play if you wanna play.

• 2:17:21Speaker 05

  The house members, that's our future.

• 2:17:22Speaker 01

  All right, start today's tape. Let's see.

• 2:17:24Speaker 05

  That's something that matters.

• 2:17:25Speaker 01

  What are you doing here, Max? What are, what are the options that we have?

• 2:17:27Speaker 00

  Matt Hollins ran a crossing route. Corner was sitting underneath. Who are you throwing it to?

• 2:17:33Speaker 01

  So who?

• 2:17:34Speaker 00

  If you're Drake May.

• 2:17:35Speaker 01

  Is this, if you're Drake May, or is, is this who did the ball go to?

• 2:17:39Speaker 00

  Oh, who wins this play? Who wins this play?

• 2:17:42Speaker 01

  Matt Hollins or the cornerback?

• 2:17:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. Hank, what do you think?

• 2:17:45Speaker 05

  I think I'm mentally clicking like a 15 second fast forward.

• 2:17:48Speaker 01

  Matt Hollins, yeah.

• 2:17:50Speaker 05

  Like probably everyone else is just.

• 2:17:54Speaker 00

  It wasn't Matt Hollins.

• 2:17:55Speaker 05

  Smash fast forward. 15 seconds fast forward. Oh, they're still doing this? 15 seconds fast forward.

• 2:18:01Speaker 00

  Kyle Williams streaking down the sideline. Corner had a step on. Okay, corner had a step. So then it's gotta go to the corner, right?

• 2:18:07Speaker 01

  Probably to the corner.

• 2:18:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, probably the corner. Yeah.

• 2:18:09Speaker 05

  This is all.

• 2:18:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, wow. Corner got it.

• 2:18:15Speaker 00

  He's still running.

• 2:18:16Speaker 01

  Okay, next play.

• 2:18:17Speaker 00

  There, that's one.

• 2:18:18Speaker 01

  What's this one?

• 2:18:19Speaker 00

  Uh, Eli Ri- Riordan on a crossing route linebacker read the mesh. Oh, there's the linebacker read the mesh?

• 2:18:26Speaker 01

  No, no, this guy Riordan.

• 2:18:29Speaker 00

  Yeah?

• 2:18:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:18:31Speaker 00

  Tight end?

• 2:18:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, he, we already got one interception, so.

• 2:18:33Speaker 00

  All right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:18:39Speaker 01

  Cornerback won that one.

• 2:18:39Speaker 00

  See results.

• 2:18:41Speaker 01

  That's three of them?

• 2:18:42Speaker 00

  A D.

• 2:18:42Speaker 01

  Needs more tape.

• 2:18:43Speaker 00

  A D for. Play again? Yeah, let's just see.

• 2:18:47Speaker 01

  All right, one for one.

• 2:18:48Speaker 00

  One, okay.

• 2:18:51Speaker 01

  Two for two. Good job, Max. You're good at this game.

• 2:18:56Speaker 01

  Wow. High score.

• 2:18:58Speaker 00

  Let's see the results this time.

• 2:18:59Speaker 01

  Eight plus.

• 2:19:00Speaker 00

  Eight plus. Still running. Love it.

• 2:19:02Speaker 01

  All right. Good shit, Max.

• 2:19:03Speaker 00

  Thanks. Are you worried that all the yips might be back?

• 2:19:07Speaker 05

  No, I mean, three interceptions is bad. It could have been four. So like that, at least, at least, at least it wasn't four.

• 2:19:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:19:13Speaker 00

  Well, if you throw four, at least you hope you win the game, right?

• 2:19:15Speaker 01

  Once it's four.

• 2:19:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:19:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, winning the game would be the most important thing.

• 2:19:18Speaker 05

  For sure, but like, we're talking strictly about the quarterback position.

• 2:19:21Speaker 00

  Right, right. But winning the game.

• 2:19:23Speaker 01

  You play to win the game.

• 2:19:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, the win.

• 2:19:24Speaker 05

  A hundred percent, but like there's, there's factors outside of just a quarterback position.

• 2:19:28Speaker 00

  10 interceptions if we keep winning games.

• 2:19:30Speaker 05

  I wasn't, I'm just talking.

• 2:19:31Speaker 00

  No, I know, I know. I'm saying like, yeah, hypothetical world, like, like if you're like, oh, 10 interceptions, but you win the game or.

• 2:19:38Speaker 01

  Is it? Cause I'd rather.

• 2:19:38Speaker 00

  Zero interceptions and you lose?

• 2:19:40Speaker 01

  Get, get rid of all the interceptions in a, in a win.

• 2:19:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:44Speaker 05

  I wasn't talking about winning. I'm just saying like you said, are you worried about the yips? I said, no, three interceptions. It could have been four, could have been worse. Like that's that. I wasn't talking about anyone specifically. I was just talking about like, it could have been five, it could have been worse. It could have been six, it could have been worse. Like he could have thrown for 200 yards instead of 299. Like it could have been worse. I'm just trying to give perspective and like focus on the, on, on the future.

• 2:20:03Speaker 01

  Do you think that if like he stopped the yips after three interceptions, maybe it was because he was afraid to throw another pick?

• 2:20:09Speaker 05

  I don't think he was throwing dots. Like he like, Kyle Williams dropped a touchdown. There was, there was good throws out there.

• 2:20:17Speaker 00

  When you say it could have been worse, could it have been better? Like three interceptions for the win?

• 2:20:22Speaker 05

  I don't, yeah, it could have been better. It could have been zero interceptions to win. That would have been way better.

• 2:20:26Speaker 01

  If my quarterback throws like a pick in a loss, I'm almost wishing that it's five picks.

• 2:20:32Speaker 05

  Secos.

• 2:20:32Speaker 00

  Must win tomorrow, next week.

• 2:20:34Speaker 05

  Must win.

• 2:20:35Speaker 01

  Are you going to wake up?

• 2:20:36Speaker 00

  NFC North's tough.

• 2:20:38Speaker 01

  How early are you waking up for the Germany game?

• 2:20:40Speaker 00

  You gotta pregame it. Oh, you gotta mentally pregame it.

• 2:20:44Speaker 05

  No.

• 2:20:44Speaker 01

  Are you gonna, don't need sort of like fun German, uh, game day food?

• 2:20:48Speaker 05

  Are pancakes German?

• 2:20:49Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 2:20:50Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:20:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. You're gonna make your own pancakes?

• 2:20:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:20:54Speaker 00

  You make your own pancakes? No way.

• 2:20:57Speaker 01

  Drop the rest of them?

• 2:20:58Speaker 00

  No way.

• 2:20:59Speaker 01

  What are you guys, there's no way.

• 2:21:02Speaker 00

  What are you guys talking about?

• 2:21:04Speaker 01

  Zero percent. Zero. No chance.

• 2:21:07Speaker 05

  Pancakes are the easiest thing to make.

• 2:21:11Speaker 00

  No way. How often are you making pancakes? There's no way.

• 2:21:15Speaker 05

  I, I mean, have I made them in the, in the summer? No. Do I make them probably?

• 2:21:20Speaker 00

  We're not in the summer right now, bud.

• 2:21:23Speaker 05

  10, it's no, 10 to 15 times a year.

• 2:21:25Speaker 00

  No, you don't.

• 2:21:26Speaker 05

  There, there's Kodiak, I, I mean, no free ads. Kodiak, they're like protein powder pancakes. They're good.

• 2:21:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know.

• 2:21:32Speaker 05

  Maple syrup.

• 2:21:33Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:21:34Speaker 05

  Great snack.

• 2:21:34Speaker 01

  So how do you make, how do you make the batter?

• 2:21:37Speaker 05

  You, it's fucking pancakes.

• 2:21:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:21:40Speaker 05

  Milk, egg, batter.

• 2:21:43Speaker 01

  I don't know necessarily milk. Not every, every time you use milk.

• 2:21:46Speaker 00

  Do you have the skillet?

• 2:21:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:21:48Speaker 01

  How do you know what to?

• 2:21:48Speaker 00

  You have a pancake skillet?

• 2:21:50Speaker 05

  It's, they're fucking pancakes.

• 2:21:52Speaker 01

  This is a big lie, Max.

• 2:21:54Speaker 00

  There's no way.

• 2:21:56Speaker 01

  Hank is just, every word out of Hank's mouth has been a lie.

• 2:21:59Speaker 00

  Serious? No way. Have you made them before? Yeah.

• 2:22:02Speaker 01

  Make them right now.

• 2:22:03Speaker 00

  You don't make pancakes. When's the last time you made them? You don't make pancakes.

• 2:22:06Speaker 05

  Probably not since last like, I don't know, winter, but like I.

• 2:22:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay.

• 2:22:11Speaker 01

  Stop saying seasons. These are all lies. Hank just keeps lying about the seasons.

• 2:22:15Speaker 05

  Why do you think I don't make pancakes?

• 2:22:17Speaker 00

  I make them in the summer. Cause you just don't make pancakes. You just drop pancakes way too casually.

• 2:22:20Speaker 01

  Because you're a liar, because there's no way.

• 2:22:23Speaker 05

  Bacon.

• 2:22:23Speaker 00

  No, you don't. You don't make bacon either. But now you're gonna make the pancakes as we're talking about it. You don't make anything at home. But there's no way you would have been making pancakes.

• 2:22:31Speaker 00

  What are you making home? Pancakes, chicken, sweet potatoes?

• 2:22:36Speaker 01

  You haven't made pancakes at least since the winter.

• 2:22:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:22:40Speaker 05

  You guys said I don't make pancakes.

• 2:22:42Speaker 00

  All right, now I wanna see a picture of you making pancakes on Saturday, Sunday morning.

• 2:22:46Speaker 01

  Hank, you definitely took some pictures of yourself making pancakes the last time that you made them.

• 2:22:52Speaker 00

  No, why would I do that?

• 2:22:53Speaker 01

  Pancakes? You're definitely taking a picture.

• 2:22:55Speaker 05

  Dude, they're, they're so fucking normal to make that it's like, not like, oh, me.

• 2:22:59Speaker 00

  Right. They are normal to make. You don't make them.

• 2:23:02Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 2:23:03Speaker 00

  Pancakes are a special occasion. Like that's like Mother's Day, you're getting up early and you're making pancakes.

• 2:23:09Speaker 05

  I like pancakes. I don't know. One thing about me, like if I'm not making it at home, I'll go and get them too. Like.

• 2:23:15Speaker 00

  That's, no, I, listen. That is not the same thing. Totally different. And I agree with you. You do, I watched you eat pancakes on Wednesday.

• 2:23:22Speaker 01

  They're great.

• 2:23:23Speaker 00

  You go, you order pancakes.

• 2:23:24Speaker 05

  No, no, I actually didn't order pancakes. I ordered a breakfast sandwich and they just gave me the wrong order.

• 2:23:28Speaker 00

  I just walked by Hank after pick them and he was just stuffing his face with pancakes on Wednesday morning.

• 2:23:31Speaker 05

  That was actually, that was upset. Those were upsetting pancakes. Cause I like wanted a sandwich.

• 2:23:35Speaker 00

  You're eating with your hands. It's like you're in savage mode.

• 2:23:38Speaker 05

  Uh, not really.

• 2:23:39Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:23:40Speaker 01

  Cause you're just thinking about sandwich the whole time.

• 2:23:42Speaker 00

  And he was thinking about his homemade pancakes. Nothing's like Hank's pancakes.

• 2:23:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:23:47Speaker 00

  You put a little cinnamon or something in there?

• 2:23:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, tell me about, tell me about the ingredients.

• 2:23:52Speaker 00

  I don't know why you lie about that. You don't make pancakes.

• 2:24:02Speaker 00

  What's that? I didn't think the Patriots recap was gonna get here, but here we are.

• 2:24:07Speaker 01

  We sniffed him out.

• 2:24:07Speaker 04

  That was gonna be the thing to cause the crash out.

• 2:24:11Speaker 00

  He just threw his mic.

• 2:24:13Speaker 04

  That mic just got yeeted.

• 2:24:15Speaker 00

  He just doesn't, he just doesn't make pancakes.

• 2:24:17Speaker 01

  For some reason Hank decided to lie about making his own pancakes and then would not go back on it. Yeah.

• 2:24:25Speaker 00

  You just don't do it.

• 2:24:27Speaker 04

  Those headphones are cooked. Look at those.

• 2:24:32Speaker 01

  I like to put a little vanilla extract in pancakes sometimes.

• 2:24:35Speaker 04

  I mean, I've never, I've actually never made pancake. Actually, I have for Mother's Day.

• 2:24:39Speaker 00

  We make pancakes at my house probably like once every couple of weeks. Yeah, yeah, the kids, it's like chocolate chip pancakes.

• 2:24:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, I like the silver dollar ones you make.

• 2:24:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, when, when I didn't have kids, I never made pancakes.

• 2:24:49Speaker 05

  I have a waffle maker too. That I never use.

• 2:24:52Speaker 00

  Like, like Hank, when I didn't have kids, I never made pancakes, ever.

• 2:24:57Speaker 04

  I'm not making, I don't, yeah.

• 2:24:59Speaker 00

  You go out for pancakes.

• 2:25:00Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 2:25:02Speaker 00

  Right Hank?

• 2:25:04Speaker 04

  Or maybe if you have like visitor, like guests, maybe you can, you make pancakes.

• 2:25:08Speaker 00

  How many times in the last five years would you say you've made pancakes?

• 2:25:11Speaker 05

  At least twenty.

• 2:25:13Speaker 04

  No way. No way.

• 2:25:17Speaker 00

  Covid twenty?

• 2:25:19Speaker 04

  Wait.

• 2:25:20Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 2:25:21Speaker 01

  Covid big cat? You're forgetting about Covid.

• 2:25:23Speaker 00

  Five years of Covid. We're twenty twenty six.

• 2:25:25Speaker 05

  At least ten.

• 2:25:27Speaker 00

  No, no.

• 2:25:28Speaker 01

  Minimum ten?

• 2:25:29Speaker 00

  Nah, it's a lot. Oh, you made it maybe once by accident. You accidentally just like made a pancake.

• 2:25:34Speaker 01

  Well, he didn't have his waffle and then he was like, okay.

• 2:25:36Speaker 05

  When I was, when I was on the dunk journey and I was just trying to get like protein, it was like, all right, let me just crush them pancakes.

• 2:25:42Speaker 00

  You were making pancakes?

• 2:25:43Speaker 01

  I don't deny they like pancakes. That's it, that's it.

• 2:25:45Speaker 05

  There's a brand of pancakes. It's like, I've convinced myself that it's like, it's probably not true, but it's like protein powder pancakes where it's like, all right.

• 2:25:53Speaker 00

  But these are pre-made.

• 2:25:54Speaker 05

  This is like, no, no.

• 2:25:55Speaker 04

  No, they have a box that you make.

• 2:25:57Speaker 00

  But he doesn't use that.

• 2:25:58Speaker 05

  Right.

• 2:25:59Speaker 04

  I think he probably has done it like twice.

• 2:26:01Speaker 01

  I think maybe one time Hank added some of the pancake mix into like a protein smoothie that he was having and then he drank that.

• 2:26:07Speaker 04

  Do you have a, a box of this in your apartment, in your, at your condo right now?

• 2:26:12Speaker 05

  Maybe.

• 2:26:12Speaker 00

  I can't wait for Chill Week. We need pancakes every morning. Every morning on Chill Week. Super Bowl week, we have a house, pancakes.

• 2:26:21Speaker 05

  I'm not even mad about that because thankfully pancakes are the easiest thing to make.

• 2:26:25Speaker 00

  I don't think you know how to make them.

• 2:26:26Speaker 01

  How do you know when to flip them? What's your key?

• 2:26:29Speaker 05

  Your eyeballs.

• 2:26:30Speaker 01

  Okay. What do you look for?

• 2:26:32Speaker 00

  Blueberries? Can I get blueberries in my pancakes?

• 2:26:33Speaker 05

  No. Yeah, you can.

• 2:26:35Speaker 00

  Okay, thank you. I would love that.

• 2:26:36Speaker 01

  You should livestream, make the pancakes before the Germany game.

• 2:26:39Speaker 05

  No, I won't. But I guess I'll, I guess I'll tweet a picture of my pancakes.

• 2:26:43Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:26:44Speaker 00

  But like, hot on the skillet, because I don't, if they're plated, I'm just gonna assume you bought them.

• 2:26:49Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 2:26:51Speaker 00

  You, you got delivery.

• 2:26:52Speaker 01

  Memes, what are you thinking right now?

• 2:26:55Speaker 04

  This was a throwaway line.

• 2:26:58Speaker 01

  Well, no, wake up, make some pancakes.

• 2:27:00Speaker 00

  No way.

• 2:27:03Speaker 04

  Well, we're working a lot of get away with that.

• 2:27:04Speaker 00

  We can't let him get away with that.

• 2:27:06Speaker 04

  Let him get away with it.

• 2:27:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, he had knocked the smile, the shit eating smile that went over his.

• 2:27:10Speaker 00

  We'd be bad friends.

• 2:27:13Speaker 01

  He just admitted to not having any, any pancake powder.

• 2:27:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's the summer.

• 2:27:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, because he, he made all.

• 2:27:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, last winter.

• 2:27:21Speaker 04

  The spread, your spread on Sunday is gonna rip.

• 2:27:24Speaker 05

  No, it's gonna be fucking pancakes and bacon.

• 2:27:26Speaker 00

  I want to see blueberry pancakes too.

• 2:27:29Speaker 05

  Don't care.

• 2:27:29Speaker 00

  Why?

• 2:27:30Speaker 05

  Because they're my fucking pancakes in my house. You want to come over, I'll make you some blueberry pancakes.

• 2:27:35Speaker 01

  I actually might, I might step up.

• 2:27:36Speaker 05

  Please do.

• 2:27:40Speaker 00

  We would be bad friends if we didn't call you out on this.

• 2:27:43Speaker 05

  Sure, whatever.

• 2:27:44Speaker 04

  He was just trying to exist. Gaz is gonna love this tomorrow. Gaz is eating this up.

• 2:27:50Speaker 00

  No, I actually think that Gaz has enough of a brain that he's like, yeah, hey, come on, I'll defend you on anything, but to say you make pancakes is crazy.

• 2:28:00Speaker 05

  I, I, yeah, this one, I guess I'm lost on. Like I think, I feel like making pancakes is such a normal and like easy thing to do.

• 2:28:10Speaker 00

  Right, but you don't do it.

• 2:28:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's why.

• 2:28:12Speaker 04

  But you also kind of admitted that you don't do it.

• 2:28:14Speaker 01

  That is exactly why it's so weird to lie about it.

• 2:28:16Speaker 04

  Like, we, we got to this point.

• 2:28:18Speaker 05

  No, no, no, no, no, no. Like, I said I'll, I'll make some pancakes. Maybe I probably wouldn't have made pancakes, but then you said I'd never make pancakes.

• 2:28:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:28:27Speaker 05

  And that's just not true.

• 2:28:28Speaker 01

  Or maybe not.

• 2:28:29Speaker 05

  I do occasionally make pancakes. You said, how many times last five years? I said, ten, ever to Covid.

• 2:28:35Speaker 04

  Twenty.

• 2:28:35Speaker 05

  Well, Covid, it's probably fifty. Covid, I was sitting in my house making pancakes like every day.

• 2:28:40Speaker 01

  This is the same, this is the same energy as the fart.

• 2:28:43Speaker 05

  So easy to make. But like, to say I don't make pancakes ever is just, is, is, it's a lie and it's rude and I, I won't think.

• 2:28:53Speaker 00

  Rude, rude.

• 2:28:57Speaker 00

  Oh, this is funny.

• 2:28:58Speaker 04

  Oh, this is about manners now, all right? And you guys have none of it.

• 2:29:03Speaker 01

  None of them. And guess what? No pancakes probably.

• 2:29:05Speaker 00

  I'm so excited to see this picture of the pancakes.

• 2:29:08Speaker 04

  I hope they look terrible.

• 2:29:10Speaker 00

  What if he doesn't know how to make them? Like, actually doesn't know what a pancake is?

• 2:29:13Speaker 01

  He'd be burned to shit.

• 2:29:15Speaker 00

  What if it's just gruel?

• 2:29:16Speaker 04

  It's just batter.

• 2:29:17Speaker 00

  It's just batter, not cooked. We're like, Hank, that's not a pancake dude. Or if he just makes waffles instead.

• 2:29:24Speaker 01

  What kind of pan do you like to use for pancakes? Because some of them, they stick, I find. If you don't use the right type of pan.

• 2:29:29Speaker 00

  Waffles are easier to make with a waffle maker.

• 2:29:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, but what kind of skillet? Some, some materials, it's like, not meant for pancakes.

• 2:29:35Speaker 00

  Why don't you make waffles?

• 2:29:36Speaker 05

  What do you mean, what type of skillet?

• 2:29:37Speaker 01

  There's different types of skillets.

• 2:29:39Speaker 05

  I don't, yeah, I guess I'm not, I'm not as, what type of skillet do you use?

• 2:29:42Speaker 01

  A cast iron?

• 2:29:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't know. Cast iron, got it.

• 2:29:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:29:47Speaker 00

  I don't make pancakes.

• 2:29:48Speaker 05

  You just said you make them like every other week.

• 2:29:50Speaker 00

  I don't. They're made in my house.

• 2:29:53Speaker 05

  Got it.

• 2:29:54Speaker 00

  I'll be, I'm, I'm fully transparent. I do not make pancakes.

• 2:29:57Speaker 01

  You do griddle too, like countertop griddle.

• 2:29:59Speaker 00

  The eggs, all day. Eggs all day. Pancakes, no.

• 2:30:03Speaker 01

  You're a griddle guy memes?

• 2:30:04Speaker 05

  When I lived in Hoboken, I had a, I had a.

• 2:30:06Speaker 01

  Moneybags memes.

• 2:30:07Speaker 05

  I had a griddle thing built into my stove.

• 2:30:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:30:11Speaker 05

  Not that, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't build it into my stove, but it was already built in, which is why I know.

• 2:30:16Speaker 00

  Memes, get them.

• 2:30:16Speaker 05

  I at least made it like five or six times when I lived there.

• 2:30:19Speaker 00

  Why don't you do waffles? Waffles are so easy.

• 2:30:21Speaker 05

  I don't like waffles as much. I like pancakes, maple syrup.

• 2:30:24Speaker 01

  All right, so what I'm, what I'm getting from this part of the conversation, you, you used to make them in New York when you had the built-in griddle. It sounds to me like you probably haven't made them at all in Chicago.

• 2:30:34Speaker 05

  I have.

• 2:30:35Speaker 01

  Now that you don't have the built-in griddle.

• 2:30:36Speaker 05

  I have.

• 2:30:37Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:30:38Speaker 04

  They're protein, so when he was on the dunk journey, he was.

• 2:30:40Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, in the winter. Yeah.

• 2:30:42Speaker 04

  In the winter.

• 2:30:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:30:43Speaker 04

  Not a summer thing. That's why he hasn't.

• 2:30:45Speaker 01

  At least in the summer.

• 2:30:46Speaker 04

  That's why he hasn't done it.

• 2:30:47Speaker 01

  But we're basically still in the summer.

• 2:30:51Speaker 05

  It, it's been nice.

• 2:30:52Speaker 01

  I think in Hank's mind, summer stops when golf stops.

• 2:30:55Speaker 00

  When he puts his golf on.

• 2:30:56Speaker 04

  And he golfed on Friday.

• 2:30:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:30:57Speaker 05

  Is that, yeah, is that, is any of that wrong?

• 2:31:00Speaker 01

  No, no. It's still basically summertime.

• 2:31:03Speaker 00

  And I think he makes his own pancakes when he orders them from the diner around the corner.

• 2:31:07Speaker 01

  He puts the butter on them.

• 2:31:08Speaker 05

  No, I don't order, I, I'll, I'll, I'll go if I'm going to the diner around the corner.

• 2:31:11Speaker 00

  That's a great move. Great move.

• 2:31:13Speaker 05

  I'm not, I'm not an order pancakes guy, which is why.

• 2:31:16Speaker 00

  I literally watched you do it on my thing.

• 2:31:17Speaker 05

  I'll show you.

• 2:31:18Speaker 00

  I watched you eat pancakes out of a styrofoam container that was delivered. I watched the person deliver them, then you open it, pancakes, you ate them.

• 2:31:27Speaker 05

  I ate like half of one and I gave the rest to me. I don't want fucking pancakes right now. This is not a pancake setting.

• 2:31:34Speaker 00

  Visual proof of you ordering pancakes in the last five days.

• 2:31:38Speaker 01

  We can pull the tapes.

• 2:31:38Speaker 05

  Receiving pancakes, yes. I will show you my order right now.

• 2:31:42Speaker 04

  How many people listening to this on Monday morning right now have just gone straight to the apps and been like, I need to get some pancakes?

• 2:31:47Speaker 00

  Pancakes, you gotta get some pancakes.

• 2:31:48Speaker 04

  Like, I want people sending us pictures of the pancakes.

• 2:31:52Speaker 00

  I'm gonna get some pancakes.

• 2:31:53Speaker 01

  I want to receive some pancakes.

• 2:31:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:31:54Speaker 00

  Bad, bad. Need some pancakes.

• 2:31:57Speaker 01

  Maybe some griddle cakes? Some Johnny cakes?

• 2:32:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. Get Dunkin'. All right. That was funny. That was a lot.

• 2:32:04Speaker 04

  I love that. That was good.

• 2:32:06Speaker 00

  Uh, Roback question, R H O B A C K dot com, promo code take, twenty percent off your first purchase, qzips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback dot com, promo code take. My Roback question, Zach, would you like to talk about Sunday night football?

• 2:32:19Speaker 01

  I would love to talk, chop it up about Sunday night football.

• 2:32:21Speaker 00

  That was a weird game.

• 2:32:22Speaker 01

  That was, uh, it's almost like you guys got hit with the upside down after that personal, uh, personal foul.

• 2:32:28Speaker 00

  So, yeah, it was, I said all week that I thought the Bears were in a weird spot schedule wise, because the Bucks, I've been saying the Bucks are not as bad as like their record. They're, I think they're the best team in the NFC South. Their defense is really good. Their offensive line is really good. Uh, and the Bears are coming off an emotional Monday night football win with a buy on the deck. Then the first two drives happened and I was like, oh, I guess we're just so good that the spot doesn't matter. Then going in, driving, I think it was fourteen to three, and Zavion Thomas gets a terrible, uh, personal foul penalty after the whistle. And from that moment on, it was like all hell broke loose. Turnovers, killed, like, it, the first pick was bad.

• 2:33:12Speaker 00

  I, I, I mean, I don't even, I don't know what I was looking at, but it seemed like it was bad. The second, the, the second and third ones, he just didn't throw the ball away far enough. Like, it was simply a throwaway that he just wasn't getting enough air on. And then the fourth was an incredible play by the defensive back to break it up where it bounces perfectly to Alex Anzalone. And then Luther Burden gets knocked out and, and fumbles. It was crazy. Everything that could have gone wrong felt like it went wrong. My biggest takeaway is that as bad as the Bears' offense looked, uh, after the first twenty minutes, the defense was awesome. And it's crazy that the Bears were able to win, like, everything I said about the Dolphins Lions game, the Lions winning with a bad, you know, like kind of a clunky performance offensively.

• 2:33:55Speaker 00

  That's kind of what the Bears did, where it's like, we won the game. I don't know how we won the game. We had five turnovers, but that's, our defense is good enough to win games now.

• 2:34:04Speaker 01

  There was five turnovers, but we, through the first four, all interceptions, we scored three points.

• 2:34:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, because the defense just kept on stepping up. Yeah, and then Jalen Johnson was like, he's been much maligned and I'm happy for him because that was an incredible read, pick six. But yeah, I, I walk away from that game being like, the offense got a little humbled, but the fact that the deep, like, if, if we didn't have Jeff Simmons, I don't think that we win that game in any stretch of the imagination with how the offense played, but because.

• 2:34:35Speaker 03

  On every drive.

• 2:34:36Speaker 00

  Every drive. He's, he's making tackles like 20 yards down the field. Devin Bush was incredible tonight, and I think a lot of that is because he could just fire off with, with Jeff Simmons in front of him. He's made everyone better and the defense played great. The defense saved the day because that was a, uh, a sloppy, sloppy Ben and Caleb game, which they haven't had in a while.

• 2:34:59Speaker 03

  Mm hmm. I thought our defense also played fantastic.

• 2:35:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, your defense was awesome.

• 2:35:03Speaker 01

  Did, um, did the defense change at the end of the game?

• 2:35:06Speaker 00

  No, they, that was just a blown, they, the, the cornerback just was supposed to pass off. I think it was maybe Roan or Kalief Raymond, uh, to the safety and he just didn't and, and stay, stay with Colson Loveland and he just didn't.

• 2:35:19Speaker 01

  Well, no, cause I, I, I feel like they were going zone for most of the game and then they switch at the very end. That's what I'm saying. Like,

• 2:35:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't know why.

• 2:35:27Speaker 01

  I don't know why Todd Bowles would, would do that when the, the defense is creating all those turnovers.

• 2:35:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was Jacob Parrish just didn't pick them up and then he just had the whole field in front of him.

• 2:35:35Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:35:37Speaker 01

  It's, uh, I mean, tip of the hat to, to Todd Bowles, like losing a game where you force five turnovers is pretty hard to do.

• 2:35:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:35:43Speaker 03

  And even like the run game, I, I was worried, uh, some of the run defense we went up against, like the Panthers run defense isn't great. We had that fantastic performance. I was like, it was going to be a little tougher to run the ball today. And I felt like we still ran the ball great.

• 2:35:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. Bucky's awesome. That one play where he dipped under Jeff, big Jeff was insane. He was, he, he's a really, really good running back. He had like four missed tackles just on that play alone. But yeah, I, I walk away being like, I can't believe we won that game. That was a stinky effort. Uh, and I think, I almost wish there wasn't a bye because I wish they could get back out there and play, but this is the sign of a good team that you can win games multiple different ways where, before Jeff Simmons, I think that would have been a loss. And I think it would have been like, wow, what's going on with this offense? And now we're in a place where it's like, oh, the defense can win. The first time the Bears won a Sunday night football game since 2018.

• 2:36:35Speaker 00

  Against the Rams, the night that, uh, Vic Fangio absolutely bodied Sean McVay.

• 2:36:41Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, that was a great game.

• 2:36:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. So it'd been a long time since we went on Sunday night football. A lot of bad Sunday night football games. This one was just weird. I don't know if you guys had the same feeling. Zach and I were in the game.

• 2:36:51Speaker 01

  There was no real rhythm to it because every time you felt like a rhythm was getting established, uh, there was just another boneheaded mistake by somebody.

• 2:36:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, turnover or something, yeah, penalty, uh. Game was drunk. Game was drunk. Game was drunk. Even like Kalief Raymond, that, that bobble on the punt where it was like, oh shit, block punt.

• 2:37:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:37:09Speaker 00

  The, I mean, what about the, I don't know what the, I, I, I'll be interested to see what Ben Johnson says. That could have been the worst fake punt of all time. Thank God there was a false start because that was the craziest call. Like, I don't know if that was something they saw or check or something. That was one of the worst fake punts. Like we were on our own 15.

• 2:37:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:37:31Speaker 00

  And just got stood up and there's, thank God there was a false start. I don't know.

• 2:37:35Speaker 03

  Thing where there was false starts or like, uh, holding penalties. We had a lot of flags that kind of felt like it bailed you guys out a couple of times.

• 2:37:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, big time, big time. Yeah. Weird, clunky game. I don't know. Caleb, yeah, just the, the throwaways were just, he did look like he lost a little bit of like what he was seeing. He, he looked like he didn't see it after the first two drives. And, uh, cause he was, the first two drives, he was like, just on fire.

• 2:38:00Speaker 03

  Yeah. You guys were like nonchalantly just going down the field. It was like, it's gonna be a long night. And then that, that, uh, personal foul flipped everything on its head.

• 2:38:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:38:08Speaker 01

  At some point Baker's gonna have to start making some throws, right?

• 2:38:12Speaker 03

  He definitely held on to it a little too long several times as a game.

• 2:38:15Speaker 00

  Also your wide receiver, I mean, Tez Johnson, I don't know. I think they were kind of, there was one that was definitely tipped. But there was a couple where it was like, dude, it was in your hands, like third down plays.

• 2:38:26Speaker 03

  So when it's tipped, okay, that's fine. It, it, and it was like, like the fraction of a finger anyway is not important, but the other two drops are like breadbasket in your hands. You gotta just make that play. And, and also like, I don't think we were able to stop you guys on third down until third quarter. I think you're like eight in a row on us.

• 2:38:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:38:42Speaker 03

  No good, but yeah, tough loss. But I mean, the, the issue with today is that we played well. I felt like we played well for most of the game, but.

• 2:38:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. And it's really credit to your defense. Like I think the Bucks defense is really, really good. So I do think that that had a lot to do with it. I don't think the Bears will play that bad offensively. Uh, like I, I don't know if they'll play that bad offensively for the rest of the season, knock on wood, but like I, that was just a bad offensive game, but it was a lot of credit to the Bucks. They have a really good defense and that's why I think the Bucks should win the NFC South. I know that they're now in technically in last place or no third place. Everyone in the NFC South has, the Saints are in second place. Think about that.

• 2:39:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:39:20Speaker 00

  Saints are in second place in the NFC South because I think they're three and five. You guys are the Panthers.

• 2:39:26Speaker 03

  And then we're three and six.

• 2:39:27Speaker 00

  But I think you guys are the best team in the NFC South. I really do.

• 2:39:30Speaker 03

  I, we're undefeated in the division.

• 2:39:31Speaker 01

  I do want to say that like that, that deep ball that he had to Tez was nice. So he didn't make a one or two nice throws tonight, but like Baker, he has to be able to win you some games.

• 2:39:40Speaker 03

  Mm hmm. That Tez was a bomb.

• 2:39:42Speaker 01

  Yeah. I, I haven't seen him really get back to old Baker form where he's like, he's the reason why they're winning games in a long time.

• 2:39:48Speaker 03

  You see the, this, the way he sometimes hold on to the ball a little bit too late is also like on that two point conversion. He turns something into nothing and just figures it out. So like,

• 2:39:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:39:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:39:57Speaker 01

  It's, Which was great.

• 2:39:59Speaker 03

  It's really, I don't know. It's a, you, you gotta take the bad with, or the good with the bad when it comes to him sitting a little bit too late in the pocket.

• 2:40:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:40:06Speaker 03

  I just wish he would do it. Not so much.

• 2:40:08Speaker 00

  It's also, I mean, the one good feeling I have outside of the defense being able to like win a game like that is like, I'm not, the Caleb has been so good with the ball and not giving it like, this was just a weird anomalous game where it's like, what the fuck just happened? You know, like it was, the throwaway thing was just, that, that second one was, he was really trying to throw it out of bounds. He just didn't get enough air.

• 2:40:29Speaker 01

  Was that the one where he was getting hit?

• 2:40:31Speaker 00

  The, the third one, I think was the one he was getting hit. The second one was the one, um, the sideline where they, I think he was just trying to get it out of bounds and it just didn't get like, he just misjudged how far it was in the, who, who picked that?

• 2:40:43Speaker 03

  He just didn't put enough, enough oomph on it.

• 2:40:45Speaker 00

  Was that McCollum?

• 2:40:46Speaker 03

  I, I believe so. And then the,

• 2:40:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, he made a great play.

• 2:40:49Speaker 03

  Third interception, it was just a crazy bounce. Like that ball usually you go straight to the dirt and it just happened to like,

• 2:40:54Speaker 00

  That one is, yeah, yeah.

• 2:40:56Speaker 03

  I was,

• 2:40:56Speaker 00

  So you're like, I'm not even worried at all.

• 2:40:58Speaker 03

  If you get, that's, that's just a fluke play.

• 2:41:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. It was like, it was just a weird, weird game, but one weird game. And I, I mean, the spot, I went into it thinking this spot is going to be weird. And again, it, they lulled me into security after the first two drives where I was like, oh, this is going to be easy.

• 2:41:16Speaker 01

  So you guys should absolutely fuck up the Saints in a couple of weeks.

• 2:41:20Speaker 00

  That's a Sunday afternoon.

• 2:41:22Speaker 01

  Thanksgiving.

• 2:41:23Speaker 00

  Thanksgiving's going to be, this is what I've been saying. The, the, the Bears, uh, have to find a way to start winning in the division. That's the next, we're 0-2 in the division. The rest of the division just does not lose. No team scares me, but I also completely respect all the, the Vikings, the Packers and the Lions where it's like, that's where it could go. So these games are going to be coin flip games. And it's like, if you lose a couple of them, we could be in a lot of trouble, but I, I do have the utmost confidence.

• 2:41:53Speaker 01

  I have a question.

• 2:41:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:41:54Speaker 01

  Uh, Monday night football.

• 2:41:57Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 2:41:57Speaker 01

  Do you want the Vikings to win or lose?

• 2:41:59Speaker 00

  Uh, I want the Vikings to lose.

• 2:42:01Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:42:02Speaker 00

  Why?

• 2:42:02Speaker 01

  Well, then they'll be hungry.

• 2:42:04Speaker 00

  Well, we don't play them.

• 2:42:05Speaker 01

  I know, but then they'll be hungry and they'll win the next game.

• 2:42:07Speaker 00

  Well, they play the Packers. So that's a, that's a, I mean, you need someone to lose that game.

• 2:42:12Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:42:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, I don't. What?

• 2:42:16Speaker 00

  It's interesting. Why? PFT brought up a pretty good point. No, he didn't because he didn't realize they were playing the Packers next week. Yeah. So wouldn't it not? So wouldn't you want the Packers to lose? No, when the Packers and Vikings play, it's like whoever loses, then just lose the rest of the games to get one of them out. Like someone's got to lose the game.

• 2:42:36Speaker 00

  But,

• 2:42:38Speaker 01

  But you'd rather, rather the Packers lose, right?

• 2:42:41Speaker 00

  Sure. But I, like whoever loses is going to be, it's going to be good that there's another team that caught a loss in the NFC North.

• 2:42:49Speaker 00

  We have to win our NFC North games. That's all it's going to come down to.

• 2:42:54Speaker 00

  But why, I, why wouldn't I want the Vikings to, to lose? They're in the, they're in first place in the NFC North. And they play the Packers next week. One of them is going to lose that game.

• 2:43:06Speaker 00

  I feel like you think you got me, Max, but they're playing in the division next week. So, I'm not saying anything. Memes just, No, you did say something.

• 2:43:13Speaker 01

  Memes not as interesting.

• 2:43:14Speaker 03

  Memes just keeps nodding.

• 2:43:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, we're not allowed, this is, it's a podcast, podcast. It's called, it's called part of my take.

• 2:43:20Speaker 03

  Okay. So,

• 2:43:20Speaker 01

  Max didn't bring that up.

• 2:43:21Speaker 00

  Do you think?

• 2:43:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:43:22Speaker 00

  No, I know, but he, he, he kind of clicked the mic being like, got him. I didn't say shit. I was,

• 2:43:28Speaker 01

  You did. You said PFT.

• 2:43:29Speaker 00

  PFT fucking said it.

• 2:43:31Speaker 01

  I was one, I was wondering how we felt about the Vikings Packers game.

• 2:43:34Speaker 00

  I,

• 2:43:36Speaker 03

  Max just said it was interesting.

• 2:43:36Speaker 00

  I want the Vikings to lose every time they play.

• 2:43:40Speaker 01

  Very interesting. You want the Packers to lose every time?

• 2:43:44Speaker 00

  Now I want the Vikings to lose every time they play anyone out. Like if they're playing a game against anyone, like yes, obviously when we get later in the season, NFC North, you could pick and choose. But if the Vikings are playing a team from the AFC, I want the AFC team to win. That'd be crazy not to want them to win. What, am I, do you agree with me?

• 2:44:03Speaker 01

  I, I would agree, except the whole thing about then you want them to beat the Packers the next week.

• 2:44:08Speaker 00

  But, but if the, if the Vikings lose to the Bills and then the Packers beat the Vikings, then the Vikings are in a free fall and that's also good for the Bears. The Vikings are in first right now.

• 2:44:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:44:19Speaker 00

  So like the Vikings taking three consecutive losses would be very good for the Bears and then deal with the Packers later.

• 2:44:25Speaker 01

  I feel like the Vikings also might be going down that route. We'll see what happens against, against the Bills, but.

• 2:44:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, we'll see. Yeah. But I, I am, yes, I, when they, when, when teams from the NFC North are playing anyone outside of the vision, I want them to lose no matter who they play the next week because everyone in the NFC North just keeps winning and it's making it very difficult. It's, it's fucking tough division. And at the end of the day, like I said, it's just, the Bears have to win their NFC North games.

• 2:44:54Speaker 00

  Who you guys think is going to win tomorrow night?

• 2:44:57Speaker 01

  Bills.

• 2:44:58Speaker 03

  Bills.

• 2:45:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, probably.

• 2:45:04Speaker 00

  I still think that Vikings defense is scary. I respect the Vikings defense and Carson Wentz. Yeah, Wentz.

• 2:45:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:45:11Speaker 00

  Vikings.

• 2:45:12Speaker 01

  Wentz is soda.

• 2:45:13Speaker 00

  Wentz is soda. Could be better. He could just spam Justin Jefferson. The Bills defense is not very good. Yeah, I like Wentz. Remember when we recorded early on that one Thursday, choose your own adventure Texans Bills? It's probably gonna be. That's. Yeah. The blitz. Yep. Of just like, yeah, because remember Josh was just getting sacked and running for his life the entire time? And it was Davis Mills just slinging it. Yeah.

• 2:45:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, Wentz Michaeloff.

• 2:45:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, that would suck if the Vikings win tomorrow. That would be another week where everyone in the NFC North won and it's just insane that what's at right now to have?

• 2:45:51Speaker 00

  I think there's, so the Vikings are six and one. What are the Lions?

• 2:45:57Speaker 01

  Uh, six and two and then Packers six and three.

• 2:46:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:46:03Speaker 00

  Yeah. So if the Vikings lose tomorrow, we'd be in first in the NFC North. So yeah, I'd make them lose. Definitely. All right. Uh.

• 2:46:11Speaker 01

  We should find the best block of each week and then have Hank mail that person a pancake. That he made.

• 2:46:17Speaker 05

  Oh, I like that. It's a lot.

• 2:46:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:46:19Speaker 05

  A lot.

• 2:46:22Speaker 01

  What do you think Hank?

• 2:46:22Speaker 05

  It's a good idea.

• 2:46:25Speaker 00

  Thanks. Who do you think in the NFC North is not going to make the playoffs? You think it's Vikings?

• 2:46:31Speaker 01

  I mean. Yeah. Yeah, I do. I think I also respect their defense, um, but it's gotten to the point where the offense is just now it's beyond broken and, uh, I don't necessarily know that Carson Wentz is the fix.

• 2:46:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:46:47Speaker 01

  Maybe they get Jonathan Taylor? I don't know.

• 2:46:50Speaker 00

  It's just so crazy because it should be every single NFC North game is going to be just like gonna flip everything depending on the result. Like if the Bears lose on Thanksgiving, they're gonna be in a lot of trouble.

• 2:47:00Speaker 01

  The crazy thing, I, I feel like the Packers are playing the best football in that division.

• 2:47:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, probably. It's, I mean, the Bears, yeah.

• 2:47:05Speaker 01

  It's all like.

• 2:47:06Speaker 00

  Considering the Bears game tonight.

• 2:47:07Speaker 01

  You go back one week with the Bears and they had the most impressive win of the season. But, um. Yeah, I mean, the Lions are playing good too. I don't know.

• 2:47:15Speaker 00

  The Lions are really good.

• 2:47:17Speaker 01

  Those three teams, I can't, I can't figure out who's the best between the three of them. And then the Vikings should be the best. If they just had like a medium offense, but they don't. And so I feel like they're the ones that get left out.

• 2:47:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:47:31Speaker 00

  Good division, tough, tough division, man. Tough division.

• 2:47:35Speaker 01

  Do you have that stadium that kills birds though?

• 2:47:38Speaker 05

  They fixed it. They fixed their windows.

• 2:47:40Speaker 01

  They did?

• 2:47:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, nice.

• 2:47:41Speaker 00

  They put shit on them?

• 2:47:43Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 2:47:44Speaker 00

  Dots.

• 2:47:45Speaker 01

  Dots.

• 2:47:45Speaker 00

  The dots.

• 2:47:46Speaker 01

  Jared Allen just sitting out there with a shotgun taking him out before they hit the window.

• 2:47:49Speaker 00

  The dots. Uh, all right, let's do who's back of the week. It is brought to you by our friends at Twisted Tea. It's football season. We've never been more ready for game day. We're bringing Twisted Tea along for the ride all season long. Twisted Tea is refreshing hard iced tea made with real brewed tea and 5% alcohol. The Twisted Tea Party Pack has a little something for everyone with original half and half raspberry and peach. Whether you're tailgating at the stadium, crushing teas in your man cave or grilling out with your friends, Twisted Tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time a great time. Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea today. Keep it twisted with Twisted Tea, half and half peach, the original Twisted Tea. Go get a Twisted Tea today. Hank, who's your who's back of the week?

• 2:48:32Speaker 05

  Um, who's back of the week are 19 year olds.

• 2:48:34Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:48:34Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:48:35Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:48:36Speaker 05

  Blades Brown. Uh, one.

• 2:48:38Speaker 00

  What are we talking about here? Just so we're careful.

• 2:48:41Speaker 05

  Blah, I'm talking about Blades Brown.

• 2:48:42Speaker 00

  Okay, who's Blades Brown?

• 2:48:44Speaker 05

  Blades Brown is a golfer. He is the now youngest winner on the PGA Tour, uh, or fourth youngest ever, youngest since World War II.

• 2:48:55Speaker 05

  Beating Jordan Spieth, like he was, you know.

• 2:48:57Speaker 00

  What are they playing in?

• 2:48:58Speaker 05

  It was the Worldwide Technology Championship.

• 2:49:00Speaker 01

  Say it again. Is that a company?

• 2:49:02Speaker 00

  Say it again?

• 2:49:03Speaker 05

  The Worldwide Technology Championship.

• 2:49:05Speaker 00

  And where is this being played?

• 2:49:06Speaker 05

  Technology Worldwide. Uh, it was in Mexico.

• 2:49:11Speaker 00

  And it's PGA Tour?

• 2:49:13Speaker 05

  PGA Tour Fall.

• 2:49:14Speaker 00

  So who's playing in the fall PGA Tour?

• 2:49:16Speaker 05

  Uh, Blades Brown was beating Ben James in the playoff.

• 2:49:21Speaker 05

  It was, it was electric. There was, there wasn't a lot.

• 2:49:23Speaker 00

  I just don't understand how the golf season doesn't end.

• 2:49:25Speaker 05

  There wasn't a lot going on.

• 2:49:27Speaker 00

  It's still summertime. It's crazy.

• 2:49:28Speaker 05

  In, in.

• 2:49:29Speaker 00

  Still pancake season. No, not pancake season.

• 2:49:31Speaker 01

  No, yeah.

• 2:49:32Speaker 05

  There was a lot, there was not a lot going on in, in the late side of games. It was very boring. This was a little, this was exciting. It was a.

• 2:49:39Speaker 00

  You turned on the golf before we knew that the games were going to be boring.

• 2:49:45Speaker 05

  Well, we have nine TVs in the gambling cave. There was four games on.

• 2:49:49Speaker 00

  But you, you.

• 2:49:49Speaker 05

  There was also fucking women's tennis, hockey and like badminton on. I didn't put those on.

• 2:49:55Speaker 01

  You put a little stank on saying the word women's there like that was.

• 2:49:58Speaker 05

  No, I was just saying.

• 2:49:59Speaker 01

  That was on.

• 2:50:00Speaker 05

  Setting the scene of like.

• 2:50:01Speaker 01

  Tennis.

• 2:50:02Speaker 05

  Setting the scene of like, I'm not, I didn't choose those games to get put on. People just put on other sports on the TVs. Whoa. So yeah, golf was on. I was watching it. It was exciting. Shout out to Blades Brown.

• 2:50:14Speaker 00

  Okay, shout Blades Brown.

• 2:50:15Speaker 01

  I mean, he did shoot a, what 63 today? Didn't he shoot like a 60 back in the spring at some real event? Cause I remember I texted you like, who's this Blades Brown guy? Should we be aware of him?

• 2:50:27Speaker 00

  Let's not disrespect the Worldwide Tech, all right?

• 2:50:30Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's very good.

• 2:50:31Speaker 01

  Is that a company?

• 2:50:32Speaker 00

  Worldwide Tech?

• 2:50:33Speaker 01

  That's a great name for a company.

• 2:50:35Speaker 00

  Worldwide Tech Championship.

• 2:50:36Speaker 01

  Worldwide Technology.

• 2:50:37Speaker 00

  Do you, do you have any relation to the Worldwide Tech Max? I just think it's a very funny name. Okay, I thought you were gonna be like, Double D works for Worldwide Tech or something. Double D does not work for Worldwide Tech.

• 2:50:48Speaker 01

  It's, it's almost like.

• 2:50:50Speaker 00

  Locked in on the Worldwide Tech in the cave. Yes, but Hank said it was because of blowouts, but he was locked in before the blowouts. Yeah, well, you had a big, no, no, you were, because you had a big bet on it. Yeah. In, in that clip that I just played, you were talking about how he was in like a different fairway.

• 2:51:05Speaker 05

  Well, I had Denny McCarthy 37 to one to win and he was fucking leading and then he, he choked. But Blades Brown, Blades Brown got it done.

• 2:51:14Speaker 00

  It was funny because there was a moment where I was like, what the fuck is going on in this cave? Because, uh, the left side.

• 2:51:19Speaker 05

  We almost put it on the main TV with sound.

• 2:51:21Speaker 00

  Wait, so really? Oh yeah. I mean, that slate was atrocious. It was bad. Uh, there was women's tennis and the Golden Knights and Blutman was like, I don't know who put this on. It's like, really? Women's tennis and Golden Knights, your one and two favorite things in the world? But yeah, we had a lot, had a lot of different games going on.

• 2:51:41Speaker 01

  Uh, Worldwide Technology is the 19th biggest company in the United States.

• 2:51:47Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 2:51:48Speaker 01

  How come we are, it's like mega corp. It's just like a name that's so, so boring. It almost like flies under the radar.

• 2:51:54Speaker 00

  What do they do?

• 2:51:55Speaker 01

  Everything worldwide, technology.

• 2:51:58Speaker 00

  That'd be funny if they just sold cars or something.

• 2:52:02Speaker 00

  Large privately held American technology service provider based in Maryland Heights, Missouri. And even the, even where their base is crazy.

• 2:52:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's something going on.

• 2:52:10Speaker 00

  Maryland Heights, Missouri? They give you the Hesey Hay on that one.

• 2:52:13Speaker 01

  They're sponsoring a Mexican golf tournament?

• 2:52:15Speaker 00

  Worldwide Technology. This feels.

• 2:52:21Speaker 00

  That's just a.

• 2:52:25Speaker 01

  That looks like an abandoned warehouse.

• 2:52:26Speaker 00

  That also looks like Chicago. That, I think that's what they have, uh, office here. Oh, we might have to go check it out.

• 2:52:33Speaker 01

  Boots on the ground.

• 2:52:34Speaker 00

  Worldwide Technology.

• 2:52:36Speaker 01

  They'll probably send Blades Brown there on the, on the, uh, victory tour, do the media tour for it.

• 2:52:40Speaker 00

  What do you, like? Hey, where do you work Worldwide Technology? That's not some, I'd be like, what? You work for?

• 2:52:48Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:52:49Speaker 00

  The internet?

• 2:52:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:52:51Speaker 00

  So they have a, but then, but if they're the 19th biggest company, how do they, how are they in the fake fall golf league?

• 2:52:57Speaker 01

  That's the thing. That's what I'm wondering, wondering is why do they sponsor the Mexican tournament?

• 2:53:01Speaker 00

  Hank, it's.

• 2:53:03Speaker 05

  FedEx Cup points are not fake.

• 2:53:04Speaker 00

  Who's playing in this golf favor?

• 2:53:06Speaker 05

  Max is not playing in this week's tournament, but he has been playing in the fall circuit.

• 2:53:10Speaker 00

  But we say when he wins those ones, we're like, how that's funny because that's not a real tournament. We've made that joke before.

• 2:53:15Speaker 01

  And FedEx points are very fake.

• 2:53:17Speaker 05

  It's real to Blades. It's real to the record books.

• 2:53:19Speaker 00

  How many FedEx points do you get?

• 2:53:21Speaker 05

  500.

• 2:53:22Speaker 00

  How many do you get for winning like a major?

• 2:53:25Speaker 05

  500 ish.

• 2:53:26Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:53:27Speaker 05

  500 plus.

• 2:53:28Speaker 00

  You're saying the Worldwide Tech Open is the same as the Masters?

• 2:53:31Speaker 05

  Plus, no, you get definitely more than 500, but at least 500.

• 2:53:36Speaker 00

  Did you? You're right, at least 500.

• 2:53:39Speaker 01

  Blades Brown's mom was in the W, the WNBA. She was the first player to score a three pointer in the WNBA.

• 2:53:46Speaker 00

  Really?

• 2:53:47Speaker 01

  Blades Brown's mom.

• 2:53:49Speaker 00

  Wait.

• 2:53:49Speaker 05

  750 FedEx Cup points for the Masters.

• 2:53:52Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:53:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, ask.

• 2:53:54Speaker 05

  750 for the Masters.

• 2:53:56Speaker 00

  I assume. What about the players?

• 2:54:00Speaker 05

  The Players Championships.

• 2:54:01Speaker 01

  Fifth major.

• 2:54:01Speaker 05

  750. Standard full field PGA Tour events, 500 points. So that is the same as any standard full field PGA.

• 2:54:09Speaker 00

  Let's say the BMW.

• 2:54:11Speaker 05

  500, unless it's a playoff.

• 2:54:13Speaker 01

  But this isn't a full field, is it?

• 2:54:15Speaker 05

  It was a full field.

• 2:54:17Speaker 01

  But how come nobody played it?

• 2:54:20Speaker 05

  Because the guys at the top aren't as worried, like they're, they're in good standing. They don't need to like grind out to get as many FedEx Cup points as possible because they're all, they're in the top 25.

• 2:54:30Speaker 00

  What I was gonna ask was.

• 2:54:32Speaker 05

  But if you're in, if you're in, you know, 60 to 120, like every FedEx Cup point matters.

• 2:54:38Speaker 00

  She made the first three pointer in WNBA history?

• 2:54:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, and not the last.

• 2:54:41Speaker 00

  Assume that was the inaugural season, right?

• 2:54:45Speaker 01

  I, I think it would be a safe assumption.

• 2:54:48Speaker 00

  Okay. Good for her.

• 2:54:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, Rhonda Blades.

• 2:54:51Speaker 00

  Rhonda Blades.

• 2:54:52Speaker 01

  Great name, great name.

• 2:54:53Speaker 00

  I've looked her, what, what's his dad or his dad's name? Is he, he got a cool name?

• 2:54:57Speaker 01

  Let's see, his father is Park Brown.

• 2:54:59Speaker 00

  Wait, his name is Blades Brown? Yeah, that's awesome.

• 2:55:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, his dad is Park Brown. His mom is Rhonda Blades. So he.

• 2:55:07Speaker 00

  She played for the Cleveland Rockers?

• 2:55:09Speaker 01

  Uh, she played for the New York Liberty and the Detroit Shock.

• 2:55:12Speaker 00

  Shock, okay.

• 2:55:14Speaker 01

  Shock up.

• 2:55:16Speaker 00

  Shock down.

• 2:55:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:55:18Speaker 00

  Next week we got the Austin Championship.

• 2:55:20Speaker 05

  Formerly.

• 2:55:21Speaker 00

  So Jordan Spieth's obviously playing in that.

• 2:55:23Speaker 05

  Those formerly good, good championship.

• 2:55:25Speaker 01

  Oh, no. R I P.

• 2:55:28Speaker 00

  What happened? All right, that one's real if Max.

• 2:55:32Speaker 01

  Is in it.

• 2:55:32Speaker 05

  Neil Shipley's playing. Nick Taylor's playing.

• 2:55:35Speaker 01

  Okay, that's a full field.

• 2:55:37Speaker 00

  I just didn't even know that this existed, that there's a fall. So.

• 2:55:41Speaker 05

  You choose to live life blinded, big cat, and that's a, that's a you problem.

• 2:55:45Speaker 01

  There's only, there's only so many sports that you can pay attention to at once.

• 2:55:48Speaker 00

  We got college basketball is back. We're talking golf. When is, when is the season over? Is it, is there no time?

• 2:55:59Speaker 05

  There's not many left.

• 2:55:59Speaker 00

  Christmas break?

• 2:56:00Speaker 05

  Good, the, the good, good might be the last one.

• 2:56:03Speaker 00

  Alright, so then we're done for.

• 2:56:04Speaker 05

  Like maybe, maybe one more.

• 2:56:05Speaker 00

  We're done till like the Hawaii tournament in January?

• 2:56:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's canceled though.

• 2:56:10Speaker 00

  Oh, what the fuck?

• 2:56:11Speaker 05

  Well, it's still the genesis, but they're not going back to that course in Hawaii.

• 2:56:15Speaker 00

  Where Max, show me when, oh no, this go, it's going to.

• 2:56:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. This is every week.

• 2:56:21Speaker 00

  RSM classic, the hero world challenge.

• 2:56:25Speaker 05

  Oh wait, no, this one's, wait, what?

• 2:56:29Speaker 00

  What the hell are these?

• 2:56:29Speaker 05

  PGA Tour presented by Corn Fairy? That's Q school. What the hell does that mean? That's not a PGA, that's not a full field event.

• 2:56:37Speaker 00

  Okay, so we're.

• 2:56:38Speaker 05

  That's for, that's for. What about the RSM classic?

• 2:56:43Speaker 05

  November 19 through 22. That's legit. What about the hero world challenge? I don't know if that one's legit. What is hero world challenge legit? Hideki won last year.

• 2:56:54Speaker 00

  I had no idea they kept on playing golf after August, but.

• 2:56:58Speaker 05

  And then they, they go right back at it in Jan. That's the start. That's the century.

• 2:57:03Speaker 00

  Maybe it's just because there's football on?

• 2:57:07Speaker 05

  And like Scotty and like the, you know, Rory and stuff aren't playing in these ones. Yeah. So they'll play in the century? Yeah. Got it. Alright, so January. No, there's still four more tournaments before the end of the year.

• 2:57:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, and then January.

• 2:57:20Speaker 01

  So there's actually only a three week break. There's only a three.

• 2:57:23Speaker 05

  Don't, don't, don't fucking golf, golf at the Q school.

• 2:57:28Speaker 00

  How much of this golf did you watch?

• 2:57:31Speaker 05

  Whatever we watched in the gambling cave today.

• 2:57:33Speaker 00

  But like Thursday, Friday, Saturday?

• 2:57:34Speaker 05

  Zero.

• 2:57:35Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:57:36Speaker 01

  Oh wow. A lawsuit alleges Worldwide Technology was given unfair advantages over its competitors violating state law. They're accused of steering $53 million in IT contracts to Worldwide Technology bypassing competitive bidding laws. Why will the PGA Tour denounce good, good, but not Worldwide Technology? Makes you think.

• 2:57:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, does make you think.

• 2:58:00Speaker 01

  Should go both ways.

• 2:58:02Speaker 00

  Alright, PFT?

• 2:58:03Speaker 01

  Uh, my who's back of the week is heartbreak.

• 2:58:05Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:58:06Speaker 01

  Heartbreak is back. Uh, true love can never last. On a recent episode of Ozzy Fudd's podcast, Fudd Around and Find Out.

• 2:58:15Speaker 00

  Oh no.

• 2:58:16Speaker 01

  She had her ex-girlfriend Paige Bukers on.

• 2:58:19Speaker 00

  What ex?

• 2:58:20Speaker 01

  They broke up. Big cat. Turns out they broke up and, uh, they said, we are no longer together. They were laughing the entire time. They said, they were also kind of like taking shots at each other. Also kind of flirting sometimes. It was a very strange podcast appearance. From what I saw, uh, and then Paige said.

• 2:58:37Speaker 05

  You watched it?

• 2:58:38Speaker 01

  I saw clips. Paige said that they'd been broken up for over a year, like before she got drafted.

• 2:58:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:58:44Speaker 01

  Which is really confusing to me because when she got drafted, Paige gave like a, a statement at the press conference.

• 2:58:53Speaker 01

  Saying that their relationship is like between them and it was almost like antagonistic with the media.

• 2:58:59Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:58:59Speaker 01

  Like, why are you asking us about our relationship?

• 2:59:01Speaker 00

  I remember that, yeah.

• 2:59:02Speaker 01

  It's very confusing to me. The whole, the whole situation is extremely confusing, very weird. I don't know why they could have just been like, yeah, we broke up. The WMB is just hilarious.

• 2:59:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, it is.

• 2:59:14Speaker 01

  These types of controversies and storylines.

• 2:59:16Speaker 00

  And the fact they did on a podcast after.

• 2:59:18Speaker 01

  And the podcast is called Fudd Around and Find Out.

• 2:59:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:59:21Speaker 01

  It's all very funny to me, but it's also like, I don't understand why they said they were dating when now they say that they weren't. It, none of it makes any sense at all to me, but that's why I love it.

• 2:59:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. Um, alright, my who's back of the week, uh, is Wesley Bryan. We talked about him earlier, but he, he, uh, he called us idiots. I'm gonna read his tweet exactly word for word, because I, I don't want him to accuse us of, of taking anything out of context. Is that fair? He said, y'all are idiots. How did you spin my words that direction? I was asking the question to the general golf audience. I'd rather watch Bob Does Sports than the PGA Tour. I'd rather play alt shot with Bob than a pro golfer. I literally chose YouTube golf for that reason. Sounds like he's got a little crush on Bob. Well, we're idiots.

• 3:00:07Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, I think what he's saying is he was just asking the question so that he would get engagement with his tweet.

• 3:00:13Speaker 00

  Right.

• 3:00:14Speaker 01

  Is pretty much what he said.

• 3:00:14Speaker 00

  He was just asking the question after, on the internet invitational, his brother and Santino got in an argument about whether they should have comedians or more like really good golfers.

• 3:00:30Speaker 00

  But that's, but that has nothing to do with the question.

• 3:00:33Speaker 01

  We are idiots.

• 3:00:34Speaker 00

  We are idiots. That's guilty as charged.

• 3:00:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:00:37Speaker 00

  Also, he did say his opinion on the matter, like 10 hours after everyone replied being like, this is a really bad idea.

• 3:00:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, he did say that for the record, he, he liked us and he wanted like, he said like PFT and Calix were,

• 3:00:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:00:51Speaker 01

  like, I would rather watch them, something like that. That's cool. I appreciate that. Um.

• 3:00:55Speaker 00

  That was long after.

• 3:00:56Speaker 01

  It was long after the question.

• 3:00:57Speaker 00

  Long after the question was posed.

• 3:00:58Speaker 01

  Public sentiment had been made clear.

• 3:01:00Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 3:01:00Speaker 01

  At that point, yeah.

• 3:01:03Speaker 00

  I don't think this Wesley Bryan guy likes us, Hank.

• 3:01:06Speaker 05

  I don't think so either.

• 3:01:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, wait, was he?

• 3:01:09Speaker 00

  I don't. I'm starting to get the feeling he doesn't like us.

• 3:01:12Speaker 01

  Was he the one that said something about Frankie?

• 3:01:14Speaker 00

  Uh, yes.

• 3:01:14Speaker 01

  On the, in the YouTube comment section?

• 3:01:16Speaker 00

  But that also was just a joke.

• 3:01:16Speaker 05

  That was the Bryan Bros YouTube.

• 3:01:18Speaker 01

  Oh, I like that. It could have been.

• 3:01:20Speaker 00

  He's probably just trolling us, actually. He's doing circles around our heads because we are idiots.

• 3:01:25Speaker 01

  It could have been either one of them. That's, that's actually a genius idea. I think the, uh, McCourty's used to have that, right?

• 3:01:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:01:31Speaker 01

  You didn't know which one was the one that was actually doing the tweets?

• 3:01:35Speaker 00

  I think I liked the George Bryan guy. He seemed cool. This guy's just trolling us. I don't like to be trolled this bad.

• 3:01:41Speaker 01

  I, I made a joke to one of them. I, I forget. We were like getting warmed up on the putting green. And, uh, somebody next to me like made a little joke about Blocky. I was like, whoa, hey, well, I'm gonna need you to apologize to Blocky for that. We're gonna need to cut that out of the final edit. And then, uh, yeah, the Bryan brothers gave me this look and I, I thought it was just like something that we could joke about.

• 3:02:03Speaker 00

  No, I don't think so.

• 3:02:04Speaker 01

  The look I got back was like, dude, we don't go there.

• 3:02:07Speaker 00

  Don't do that. That's too far.

• 3:02:09Speaker 01

  It's too, you probably, and I was like, oh, alright, so I, I guess it was very serio, it was a serious matter. I don't know.

• 3:02:15Speaker 05

  Talk about full circle.

• 3:02:16Speaker 00

  What?

• 3:02:17Speaker 05

  Dylan, our Blocky's son,

• 3:02:21Speaker 05

  Pootie Cuts is gonna be at Q school finals.

• 3:02:25Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 3:02:25Speaker 00

  What was the sentence you just said?

• 3:02:27Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 3:02:28Speaker 01

  I feel like the first time I, there was that tweet about clavicular getting, getting bogged by, so that's, that's what my brain just did.

• 3:02:34Speaker 05

  There's, there's, there's a new Blocky coming to the scene.

• 3:02:37Speaker 01

  New kid on the Blocky?

• 3:02:38Speaker 00

  Pootie Cuts?

• 3:02:39Speaker 05

  That's, that's, that's his self-appointed nickname.

• 3:02:42Speaker 00

  Dylan Block, Pootie Cuts.

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  The newest block party, Michael's son Dylan, otherwise known as Pootie Cuts.

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  What is Pootie Cuts?

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  Ten under at second round of Q school. Oh wait, this was last year? This is this week. This is like to get into, he's, you have to go through stages of Q school to get to the final. What, who is, are, are these not professional golfers in Q school? No, they wanna be. That's how you get to become a professional. Oh, so Q school's legit? Yeah, Pootie Cuts. So we're gonna be watching Q school?

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  Yeah.

• 3:03:13Speaker 05

  No, probably not.

• 3:03:14Speaker 00

  By the way, uh, when Max was scrolling.

• 3:03:17Speaker 05

  Yes, if it's on, yeah.

• 3:03:18Speaker 01

  We've talked way too much golf.

• 3:03:20Speaker 00

  These, when Max was scrolling on the screen though.

• 3:03:23Speaker 01

  Like, live is done. Why are we spending six minutes on golf?

• 3:03:26Speaker 05

  It actually might not be. It actually might not be. No, Max Oma actually text, tagged me on an Instagram comment earlier.

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  Saying it might not be done?

• 3:03:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:03:36Speaker 00

  To put a bow on the Wesley Bryan thing, I will, will stand down because I did see when Max was looking at his Twitter. Someone said, it's a pleasure watching Wes troll circles around a bunch of morons and they have absolutely no clue, master level stuff.

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  Oh, fuck, owned.

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  He said, glad someone appreciates it. Goes right over most people's heads. This is a classic troll. So, hey, we got owned. We're the idiots. We got owned.

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  One thing the Bryan brothers, if they're.

• 3:04:01Speaker 00

  Defeated in a troll.

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  They're good at golf. They're great at satire.

• 3:04:04Speaker 00

  Right, so. Sword down.

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  Hmm.

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  Put, putting my sword down. We've been bested by a troll master.

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  You sir, you sir win the internet for today, sir.

• 3:04:15Speaker 00

  Funny. Shit is so good. Uh, tune in to the internet invitational.

• 3:04:19Speaker 05

  That's your captain, PFT.

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  Episode.

• 3:04:20Speaker 05

  Well, was.

• 3:04:21Speaker 01

  Was.

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  Yeah. Yeah, did you have any, did you have any interactions with them?

• 3:04:26Speaker 01

  I did, yeah. No, no, they were fine as like, as teammates.

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  A couple, I talked to both of them last year. They were, yeah, totally normal.

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  Yeah, I, I enjoyed hanging out with them. I enjoyed playing golf with them. I, I had no ill will whatsoever. I figured we can just chop it up. This is what the internet's about. Um, but yeah, I just, I, I didn't play well, so I can't imagine that they have any great affinity for me as a teammate.

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  Yeah.

• 3:04:48Speaker 01

  Um, I tried my best, but yeah, we addressed this kind of like on Friday, which is like, I, I need Hank to be in there so I can beat somebody. I'm really good though at, at, at being the sacrificial lamb. When they send me out to get my ass kicked, I'm good for like six holes where it's like, oh shit, PFT is making some noise.

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  Yeah.

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  Before it all falls apart.

• 3:05:08Speaker 00

  Well, uh, Brian.

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  Dave and Big Cat sent you out for the last one though.

• 3:05:12Speaker 01

  What do you mean?

• 3:05:12Speaker 05

  For the, for the one V one.

• 3:05:14Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, the one, no, the one.

• 3:05:15Speaker 05

  That wasn't Wesley Bryan.

• 3:05:16Speaker 01

  No, the one, the one, one V one, I just got my ass kicked.

• 3:05:19Speaker 00

  Well, that was also Gruden and PFT are good content.

• 3:05:22Speaker 01

  I, I like, yeah, and I, I like Gruden. It was fun playing with him. They didn't, I'm, I'm pissed they cut out like the one good shot that I hit at the tournament on that long par, uh, the par three. Sent a dot on the second hole and then things just fell apart and then it snowballed and then it just, it got, it got ugly. It gets lonely out there when you're hitting three shots out of bounds.

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  Yeah.

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  Tell you what.

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  Bryan brothers wouldn't know. Better trollers or golfers?

• 3:05:47Speaker 01

  Trollers.

• 3:05:47Speaker 00

  I think so.

• 3:05:48Speaker 01

  Trollers, yeah.

• 3:05:49Speaker 00

  I think so. Alright, Zach, finish this off.

• 3:05:52Speaker 03

  Um, who's back of the week this week is gonna be international affairs.

• 3:05:55Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 3:05:55Speaker 03

  You guys are familiar with Nvidia, the tech company?

• 3:05:57Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 3:05:58Speaker 05

  Yeah.

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  Like GPUs, CPUs. Uh, their CEO, Jensen Huang.

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  Successful company in like the world, I think.

• 3:06:04Speaker 03

  That is true.

• 3:06:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

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  Back in video.

• 3:06:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:06:07Speaker 03

  Uh, their CEO may have cheated on his wife, but he may have also done with a Chinese spy.

• 3:06:14Speaker 01

  Hmm, alright.

• 3:06:15Speaker 03

  So, so Nvidia has a partnership with a company, a cloud service company in Singapore?

• 3:06:21Speaker 01

  Okay. And then he had to send an email pretty much being like, hey,

• 3:06:28Speaker 01

  look, guys, I fucked up. I cheated on my wife, but and she may be an intelligence officer. And here's this email is about two pages.

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  We all make mistakes.

• 3:06:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. Sending a uh.

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  The computer chip company was like overlooking things, working with his mistress's company, which turned out to be.

• 3:06:49Speaker 01

  Well, the allegations are that.

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  Chinese spy.

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  That the Chinese spy works for a company that would greatly benefit from Nvidia being able to sell their chips to China. For a long time, it was against the law to sell our best chips to China. And then um, the guy from Nvidia had been lobbying the US government to change that law, saying, hey, we can trust the Chinese. We can, it would be good for international business if if we were doing commerce with them. Our company would grow. We'd make a lot of money. It'd be it'd be happy for everybody. And it would also lessen tensions between the two company or two countries. If we're both doing business with each other, there's mutual interest there. It turns out that um, he may have been doing that at the behest of his mistress,

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  who may or may not have been a Chinese spy.

• 3:07:38Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 3:07:39Speaker 01

  So like, again, we all make mistakes.

• 3:07:42Speaker 00

  Like. But you all, you you can't, who you fall in love with, you can't really decide.

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  The heart wants what it wants.

• 3:07:48Speaker 00

  Right. Sometimes it's, you know, a girl next door. Sometimes it's a high school sweetheart. Sometimes it's Chinese spy. These things happen.

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  It's like Romeo and Juliet.

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  Right.

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  Star-crossed lovers, the Capulets and the Montagues.

• 3:08:01Speaker 00

  Is it cheating if you get swindled by an international spy?

• 3:08:04Speaker 01

  Who's to say?

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  Like, is that just like you got got? She's a spy? I would say that if you're, eh, listen, I don't respect people who cheat on their spouses, but like the, if you're gonna cheat on your spouse, try not to do it with a Chinese spy. Cause then it's gonna get really ugly. Right? Doesn't that? No memes? You disagree?

• 3:08:24Speaker 01

  Nah, it depends. Everything depends. I think if you uh.

• 3:08:27Speaker 00

  What do you mean, everything depends? Like, there's.

• 3:08:31Speaker 01

  How, how attractive was she?

• 3:08:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:08:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:08:35Speaker 01

  Let's, let's ask the real question.

• 3:08:36Speaker 00

  Well, like a one night stand on like a, a company retreat versus Chinese spy feels like there's levels to a Chi.

• 3:08:45Speaker 01

  I also think that uh.

• 3:08:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:08:47Speaker 01

  You could, if you're him, you could make the case like she, she used her, her spy mind tricks on me.

• 3:08:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, true. Yeah.

• 3:08:56Speaker 01

  Right? Like, it's a pretty easy out.

• 3:08:58Speaker 00

  It's like you would.

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  It's not my fault.

• 3:09:01Speaker 00

  If you ever encountered a Chinese spy, like to your, you tell your wife, like, hey, if you've found a hot male Chinese spy, he'd probably get you too.

• 3:09:08Speaker 01

  Well, it's like, yeah, maybe she, she used her mind control tactics on me. She slipped me some sort of weird Chinese drug.

• 3:09:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, there's actually a good, this is an easy spin zone. Be like, hey, listen, I, I am faithful to you. It takes an entire government plot for me to be unfaithful to you. China has to put together all of their counterintelligence for me to even consider cheating on you. Yes, did I cheat? Yeah, yeah, I did. But it took the world's, what, second biggest superpower? To bring me to a, a place where I wanted to get my dick sucked by a Chinese spy?

• 3:09:45Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. A developing nation can never take down this marriage.

• 3:09:47Speaker 00

  Exactly. Yeah, like if you get, if you get, if you cheat on your wife with a, with a uh, spy from, let's say Venezuela, I think you'd probably be in trouble.

• 3:10:04Speaker 01

  I could see that.

• 3:10:05Speaker 00

  Now, hey, look, they don't have the counterintelligence.

• 3:10:08Speaker 01

  The uh, the opposite side of that coin is if it's with a, another superpower and it becomes international news. That probably makes it a little bit worse.

• 3:10:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's really taken the like, I don't care what you do, as long as you, it doesn't like embarrass me to the next level.

• 3:10:22Speaker 01

  If it doesn't.

• 3:10:23Speaker 00

  It really embarrassed.

• 3:10:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, if it doesn't lead off like Squawk Box on CNBC.

• 3:10:27Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Would they have to go to Supreme Divorce Court?

• 3:10:32Speaker 01

  That, you know what? Zach, I don't, I don't hate that idea of the Supreme Court doing certain divorce hearings.

• 3:10:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:10:38Speaker 01

  If you're, if you're like at a certain enough like income level or like power level.

• 3:10:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're gonna have to get involved.

• 3:10:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:10:46Speaker 00

  I'd agree.

• 3:10:46Speaker 01

  I would love to see that. Clarence Thomas asking questions.

• 3:10:50Speaker 00

  Good who's back.

• 3:10:52Speaker 01

  And then another quick one, if that's cool, just to see Chicago for trying to move the bean.

• 3:10:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, that was cool. Pretty awesome.

• 3:10:57Speaker 01

  What happened with that?

• 3:11:02Speaker 05

  Come on.

• 3:11:03Speaker 01

  Did they move the bean?

• 3:11:05Speaker 05

  I feel like, whatever.

• 3:11:07Speaker 00

  Was it, did you, did you think someone was trapped in the bean?

• 3:11:10Speaker 05

  No, big cat, I did not think someone was trapped in the bean. I was just trying to make a joke in the game and keep it.

• 3:11:16Speaker 00

  Alright, alright, good.

• 3:11:17Speaker 05

  You wouldn't give it up.

• 3:11:17Speaker 00

  No, no, no, I'm not, I'm not. Hey, give it up. I gave it up.

• 3:11:20Speaker 05

  But you brought it back up.

• 3:11:22Speaker 00

  No, well, cause I had to ask, cause they tried to move the bean.

• 3:11:24Speaker 05

  But we talked about this like five hours ago.

• 3:11:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, we didn't really have a resolution.

• 3:11:29Speaker 00

  Hank satiried you. Yeah, clearly I'm a mark for satire.

• 3:11:33Speaker 05

  I thought it was funny that people were making up a conspiracy theory that someone was trapped in the bean. That was fun to me.

• 3:11:39Speaker 01

  Give the man inside resources.

• 3:11:41Speaker 00

  Yes, a bunch of people showed up.

• 3:11:42Speaker 01

  Seven inches to the left, we might be able to access that door and give the man inside the bean resources.

• 3:11:47Speaker 05

  That's funny.

• 3:11:48Speaker 00

  That is funny.

• 3:11:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:11:49Speaker 05

  But God forbid.

• 3:11:51Speaker 01

  Did people actually go to the bean?

• 3:11:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, there was a ton of people showed up.

• 3:11:54Speaker 01

  And did they try to shove it?

• 3:11:56Speaker 00

  I think so.

• 3:11:56Speaker 01

  Can you move the bean?

• 3:11:57Speaker 00

  I don't think so.

• 3:11:58Speaker 01

  No, they were unsuccessful. A lot of people showed up to push the bean.

• 3:12:01Speaker 00

  To like just flick it a little bit?

• 3:12:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:12:03Speaker 00

  Big flick. Tried to move it seven inches.

• 3:12:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:12:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. Alright, good show, everyone. Talk some college football Wednesday. LSU might be in trouble, PFT. Yeah. Georgia's a wagon. Big trouble. Georgia's the best team.

• 3:12:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:12:22Speaker 00

  Wagon. Notre Dame was sick. That stadium was awesome. Did it right. Uh, okay. Numbers.

• 3:12:28Speaker 01

  Three.

• 3:12:29Speaker 00

  Twenty-three. Hmm. I'm gonna say.

• 3:12:34Speaker 05

  Eighteen.

• 3:12:35Speaker 00

  Thirty-nine.

• 3:12:36Speaker 01

  Twenty-nine.

• 3:12:39Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, every.

• 3:12:40Speaker 01

  Seventy-two. Everybody's teams at Barstool lost that.

• 3:12:45Speaker 00

  Everyone here lost that.

• 3:12:46Speaker 01

  Everyone, everyone, everyone lost at Barstool.

• 3:12:51Speaker 00

  Caleb had a couple of laugh-worthy throws today.

• 3:12:53Speaker 01

  Four.

• 3:12:54Speaker 00

  Laugh-worthy? Why, why didn't you speak, why didn't you say that? Why'd you say that? Yeah, well, I said it. I was letting you talk. Laugh-worthy.

• 3:13:00Speaker 01

  Sixty-nine.

• 3:13:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, he had a bad game. Joe Milton. Still won.

• 3:13:04Speaker 01

  Eight.

• 3:13:05Speaker 00

  Hilarious.

• 3:13:09Speaker 00

  Max kept saying. So mad about that screen pass. This, that deserves a laugh.

• 3:13:15Speaker 00

  We won.

• 3:13:23Speaker 00

  You also like, Joe Milton's gonna be out of your life in like a week.

• 3:13:27Speaker 01

  No, don't say that. Don't wish him away.

• 3:13:38Speaker 00

  Forty-seven.

• 3:13:39Speaker 01

  Forty-seven?

• 3:13:40Speaker 00

  Forty-seven, anyway.

• 3:13:42Speaker 01

  One more.

• 3:13:43Speaker 00

  One more. Hank, what'd you do?

• 3:13:46Speaker 05

  What number?

• 3:13:47Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Eighteen. I think you're gonna win.

• 3:14:11Speaker 00

  Seventy-four. Ooh, forty-seven then seventy-four. That's kinda cool.

• 3:14:16Speaker 01

  So cool.

• 3:14:16Speaker 00

  That's pretty cool.

• 3:14:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:14:18Speaker 00

  He's fucking machine.

• 3:14:21Speaker 00

  Did you actually laugh at some of those throws?

• 3:14:23Speaker 01

  You, you could. There were some bad throws.

• 3:14:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was laughing. Yeah. It's bad throws.

• 3:14:28Speaker 01

  And we got some good birthdays today. Happy birthday to Adam Dunn. Happy birthday to Chris Jericho. Happy birthday to Kyle Rudolph. Happy birthday, Lou Ferrigno. Happy birthday uh, to Steve Kerr's son.

• 3:14:45Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 3:14:45Speaker 01

  Nick.

• 3:14:46Speaker 00

  Nicholas.

• 3:14:46Speaker 01

  Steve Kerr's son, Nick. Zach, anybody else? Uh, oh yeah, Pod the Pod, uh, Bad Friends Pod, Rego's birthday. Happy birthday.

• 3:14:54Speaker 00

  Oh, let's go. Happy birthday.

• 3:14:58Speaker 01

  Remembered your birthday. How sweet is that? Birthday's a good day. What a nice guy.

• 3:15:03Speaker 00

  Is there any, any follow-up there?

• 3:15:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, happy birthday. I think that's the follow-up.

• 3:15:07Speaker 00

  Oh, got it.

• 3:15:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, happy birthday. Maybe she could say thanks for the birthday.

• 3:15:12Speaker 00

  Was there any follow-up? Someone's gotta clip this.

• 3:15:13Speaker 01

  That is the birthday right there, memes.

• 3:15:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:15:15Speaker 01

  That's the follow-up.

• 3:15:16Speaker 00

  I'm saying like, was there follow-up, like messaging?

• 3:15:18Speaker 01

  You're listening to it right now.

• 3:15:20Speaker 00

  Was there any messaging in between since then?

• 3:15:22Speaker 01

  Happy birthday to uh, Tuesday Drew Locke. Happy birthday to Emmanuel Acho on Tuesday. Happy birthday Tuesday to Mike McCarthy, Teddy Bridgewater, Zach Ertz, Jon Rahm.

• 3:15:33Speaker 00

  Zach Ertz.

• 3:15:34Speaker 01

  Happy birthday to uh.

• 3:15:36Speaker 00

  Champion.

• 3:15:37Speaker 01

  Rico Bosco's dad dropped a pass from.

• 3:15:40Speaker 00

  No, he caught that pass. Rudy was also very mean to him one time.

• 3:15:44Speaker 01

  What?

• 3:15:44Speaker 00

  He's a legend.

• 3:15:45Speaker 01

  What, to his dad?

• 3:15:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:15:46Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 3:15:47Speaker 00

  Rudy from Notre Dame.

• 3:15:48Speaker 01

  Happy birthday Rico Bosco's dad. You caught that pass.

• 3:15:50Speaker 00

  Well, Rudy's fake. Sean Aston? No, he's real. Yeah, but he's fake.

• 3:15:54Speaker 01

  He's a real guy.

• 3:15:55Speaker 00

  No, he's a real guy. Oh, the real Rudy. The real Rudy was rude to him. Yeah, he made up half his, he made up. Yeah, but he was still a real person. Yeah, he's a real person, but he's.

• 3:16:04Speaker 01

  He probably.

• 3:16:05Speaker 00

  He was mean to Terry Senior and he's just, seems like a bad guy.

• 3:16:10Speaker 01

  Happy birthday to.

• 3:16:11Speaker 00

  Oh, you went government name there.

• 3:16:12Speaker 01

  Uh, Scotty Perkins and Russella's best friend Diplo.

• 3:16:16Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 3:16:18Speaker 01

  Love you guys and Rudy Jewels.