NFL Week 8, Fastest 2 Minutes, Cowboys Meltdown, Lions Huge Win, Broncos Steal The Chiefs Magic Plus Who's Back Of The Week

NFL Week 8 and we start with Fastest 2 Minutes. We then get to every game from Sunday (00:00:00-00:11:48) Lions 19, Vikings 15 (00:11:48-00:26:42) Steelers 27, Browns 6 (00:26:42-00:39:16) Bills 36, Ravens 10 (00:39:16-00:49:04) Bengals 43, Titans 36 (00:49:04-01:00:45) Cardinals 33, Cowboys 30 (01:00:45-01:17:50) Raiders 38, Jets 33 (01:17:50-01:30:01) Bucs 16, Falcons 0 (01:30:01-01:39:42) Jaguars 42, Colts 7 (01:39:42-01:49:23) Patriots 24, Dolphins 19 (01:49:23-02:00:33) Rams 24, Chargers 9 (02:00:33-02:07:27) Broncos 28, Chiefs 24 (02:07:27-02:17:57) We talk SNF and who's back of the week. (02:17:57-02:45:36) You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Netflix. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take https://barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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  On today's Part of My Take presented by DraftKings, week eight in the NFL. We're going to talk about every game. We have the Vikings finally taking a loss. The Cowboys blowing a game in epic fashion. The Broncos, fourth quarter, Bo and the Broncos winning a pivotal game against the Chiefs who are now on a two game losing streak. The Ravens don't have a quarterback. We're going to start with fastest two minutes. We're going to end with Sunday Night Football, which we're in the middle of right now. We're going to do who's back the week. It's a great Monday show and it's brought to you by our friends at State Farm. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Football has a play

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  Welcome to Part of My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, November 2nd, week eight.

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  In Buffalo where Lamar Jackson made his return. Sorry, Snoop Huntley made his return. Sorry. It was Joe Fagnano from, from, from UConn. Yes, it was third string quarterback Joe Fagnano. Not November in the game and he struggled to see men downfield, but we will retain his bust accusation until we see more. We know Halloween is over, but QB squash Allen was playing out of his gourd on Sunday, finding Dalton Pumpkincade for a score and the Ravens defense was left without answers after Roquan Smith tried to turn Josh Allen into Ichabod Crane on the goal line. And the season from hell continues in Baltimore

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  as fans are saying Fagnano, Fagnano means no to watching them play more football. No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. Bills 36, Ravens 10.

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  And the Cleveland Browns make the trip to Western Pennsylvania to do something that they haven't done in over 30 years. No, not give a quarterback an extension. Sweep the Steelers in the regular season. And Mike Tirico Dado was looking Italian, letting his hands do the talking, carrying the ball to the house like he still stared at with his mother. And meanwhile, Deshaun Combs Watson has been a bad boy in the past, which seems to embrace his new job as game manager. Did you say gay manager or game manager boom? Yes. But today was all Steelers as Darnell George Washington took the powder off his wig and put it on his doughnut where in a touch of tribute to Deshaun Watson, he was a big load and his detractors somehow couldn't bring him down. Aaron Glenn Rogers might

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  have some interesting observations about the Jets, but the Steelers beams appear as strong as ever, nearly building seven yards per carry. The Pittsburgh D line sacked the Browns eight times today, leading Steelers fans acting like Lizzo's mom, celebrating her big queen. Steelers 27, Browns 6. We now head to sunny New Jersey. Memes.

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  In New Jersey, it was a shootout in MetLife as Joe Kirk was finding holes in the Jets' defense like they were his cousins. The Raiders tight ends had a day as Brockham Sockham Bowers more fun than a pillow fight and Michael Myers said, yeah, baby, as nobody was covering them. The Raiders were asking for Adonai Mitch, cut it out, as he went for seven catches, 142 yards and a touchdown. Mary Caden, Ashton Gentey, and Mike Washington, Washington, damn, Washington, finished a job and left the Jets with no time on the clock for a comeback. As for Aaron Glenn, tape scout, he's still somehow coaching. Raiders 38, Jets 33.

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  Thanks memes. We now head to a very rainy Florida with Zach.

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  In Tampa, Michael J. Fox Penix wishes he could go back to the past because his future first half is full of nothing but picks. Alice Cooper, Anna Lozone had Penix calling him daddy with the back to back interceptions, leaving the Falcons fans in attendance extremely unwell. Shortly after, Michael Jackson Penix began starting with the man in the mirror. Oh yeah. Kevin Stefanski asked him to change his ways. Two more interceptions couldn't be any clearer. If you want to put the Falcons in a better place, take a look at the bench and make a change. Also in this game, Bakers dozen Mayfield may have dropped the donut on the day, passing for zero yards and for zero completions, but he was able to hand it off to Aunt Becky Irving who rushed into the end zone through a full house of defenders,

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  the milkman and the paper boy. That's six points added to the bottom of your screen during this noon slate game. No evening TV. And if we're talking uprights, police Chase McGoughlin was hitting high speeds from below the knees as Tampa Bay's leading scorer on the day. You have the right to remain scoreless. Any fourth down and field goal range will be used against you in the court of the NFC South. If you cannot afford a special teams, stop, one will not be provided to you. With these rights in mind, do you wish to hold this L? Atlanta zero, Tampa 16.

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  Thank you, Zach. In Cincinnati where the bottom dweller Titans saw clam Ward come out of his shell and show some muscle as he went deep over and over for 300 yards. And he and Tony Pollard Green stuffed the end zone in a points fiesta. Joe Burrow row, row your boat almost capsized the Bengals on a few different occasions, throwing three picks in the game. But these Bengals are a bunch of dogs. And in the second half, Burrow found his groove, rolling down the street, smoking Indo, sipping on Higgins and juice as he found T for two scores. And when he wasn't, when he wasn't open, the Bengals

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  offense still lives in luxury as Jamar Delago Chase found the end zone as well. In overtime, he called his own number as Bengals fans screamed, we did it, Joe. And Cincinnati holds off the Titans 43, 36.

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  We go to Arlington, Texas as Arizona Cardinals and Dallas Cowboys was a matchup of ACDC. And back in Dak, he took a sack. Under stress, the fans won't be back. The Cowboys had an early lead behind Flornoy, who was a Ryan Stone Cowboy, but they've heard this song before as Gardner Minshew been gone. Yeah, yeah. The Cardinals win for the third time. If Minshew fits, he comes in for Jacoby Brusquet, who led a low and slow offense before getting pulled out to rest. And Minshew came in and unlocked Tyler Algeria, who is very comfortable

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  representing the desert. Michael Rebel Wilson is on those GLP ones. Gardner leads Prescott by one until, oh no. Chad Epstein Ryland should have been released a long time ago after that kick, but it's okay. He made the last one, so he'll probably not ever be released ever. Cardinals 33, Cowboys 30. We head back down to Florida where Hank was there for Dolphins Patriots.

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  In Miami where it was pouring rain and had Mike Paul Vrabel looking like a wet water dog. In the second quarter, Malik Denzel Washington said, man gotta be fine. Finns gotta be the Finns after catching a TD pass from Malik. What you talking about Willis? To put the Dolphins up 13-3 at the half. In the third quarter, Kyle Williams Wallace said, all men die, but not all men live. That's why I dropped the ball in the end zone to make people think the pass was incomplete. It wasn't.

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  And the Patriots cut the lead to three, then back in the red zone. Drake May handed one off to Remondre. What? What? What? No, he didn't. He kept it himself to give the Pats a lead. And in the fourth quarter, he connected with pop. Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug. Douglas. And the Patriots go marching in Miami 24 19. Thanks, Hank. We head out west to Southern California. Max is on the scene.

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  We head over, we head over to LA where Dan McDaniel was back at it again with the shitty offense. And Justin Timberlake Herbert was saying, I'm bringing Pixies back.

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  Yeah.

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  I love to throw it to defensive backs.

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  Yep.

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  Coach thinks I'm special and I think he's on crack.

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  Yeah.

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  I throw a pick or I, or I'll take a sack.

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  Yep.

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  It was also a slow start.

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  Bring it to the court.

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  It was also a slow start for the Rams until Byron Williams said, sup, baby? Take me to the end zone. Ayo to deliver the game's first touchdown right before half. But then it was all, all Rams led by Poopin Nakua, who was shitting on the Chargers defense, finishing the game with 11 catches and a todd. Rams 24, Chargers nine.

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  Thanks, Max. We finish in Mile High where Emmett Ernie Johnson was TNT as he caught a 73 yard touchdown pass from Shaq Trick Mahomes and jetted down the sideline, making the Broncos defense want to retire in the first half. And it looked like the Broncos were going on life support after Mahomes found Dr. Noah Meredith Gray in the end zone, dropping his anatomy on the donkey secondary. I actually never watched that show teach, but I know chicks like it, so. But they forgot about fourth quarter Bo as everybody was answering, who is that tight end? As Nate Ad Ken Jennings put the game back in jeopardy and Bo took them back down the field, telling the restless crowd, you enjoy myself as he found Jonah Cole.

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  Man, God, shit. Watch you feet, he drive me to Florenze. Off to another Broncos victory. Broncos 28, Chiefs 24. And that was our week eight in the NFL. The fastest two minutes brought to you by Chevy. Football season is here and whether you're grinding through the week or gearing up for kickoff, there's one ride that's always game ready. It's the Chevy Silverado. There's a reason Chevy's called the heartbeat of America and Silverado keeps that heartbeat strong. Whether you're towing, hauling or tailgating, Silverado lets you show up strong and tackle any task with best in class standard torque, the most functional bed and the advanced tech that's football guy approved.

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  Check out current offers on the 2026 Silverado at chevy.com. Okay, week eight in the books as we wait for Sunday night football. We're going to be recording throughout Sunday night football. We'll give you some updates as we go. Uh, we don't have any more undefeated teams anymore. So pop, what was the, do we have a champagne pop sound you can play for us, Max? Yeah, I used to always love when Chris Berman would do that. The 72 Dolphins.

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  Mercury Morris, R I P.

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  Pop that champagne.

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  Cause I saw a picture of Larry Zonkin today with a nice cigar, healthy cigar, glass of champagne.

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  Yeah.

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  It's a.

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  The Vikings have lost.

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  They love to talk, they love to remind people about the 72 season.

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  Yeah.

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  I would too.

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  Yeah.

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  If it happened to me, I would do the same thing.

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  All right, here we go. Ready? Hit it.

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  There it is.

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  That's pretty good.

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  That's it. That's the Dolphins right there. So let's start there. By the way, the craziest part about the Vikings losing today is that I, I think J J McCarthy has the longest active winning streak for a quarterback with five straight.

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  That is kind of crazy. Yes. Wait, what do we pop when a team finally, when the Chargers finally win a game?

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  Uh, I think we flush a toilet.

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  Do the Hugh Jackson?

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  Yeah.

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  Gets up from the shitter?

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  Do the automatic flush.

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  Yeah.

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  Uh, all right. So let's start with that Vikings, Lions, Lions 19, Vikings 15. Turns out, uh, I want, I don't want to say that the Lions figured out the Vikings defense because the Vikings defense did hold a very good Lions offense to 19 points and frustrated them for the majority of the game. But the one thing that could maybe kill a blitz is Jameer Gibbs being absolutely sensational. And that was what happened in this game because it was a tight game. It was a close game. And then at the end of the game, uh, the, the Lions ran 11 of their last 13 final plays were run plays. I think mixed in there was the JMo touchdown and Jameer Gibbs was phenomenal. 153 yards touchdown. He's an absolute beast.

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  I can't like, I, you remember the, um, the tweet that was going, that goes viral when it was like Shohei Ohtani and Mike Trout both, you know, did something that's never been done before and the Angels lose 11 to three. That's Jameer Gibbs, except the Lions win because Jameer Gibbs, uh, he's the only, the fifth guy ever to have a thousand yards from scrimmage and 10 touchdowns in the first seven games of a season.

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  Yeah.

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  Uh, joining, uh, Christian McCaffrey, Edren James, Dickerson, Jim Brown, pretty good company. He's got a thousand 58 yards from scrimmage and 10, 10 touchdowns through seven games. He is an absolute monster. Every single week it feels like he breaks some type of record. And that was like the story because he was the hammer at the end of the game. And also, by the way, uh, Vacay, their, their new David Montgomery also ran really hard. And that was, I feel like the, the big, cause like the, the Vikings did what they do. They blitzed. I think they broke the record, their previously held record.

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  From last week.

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  From last week.

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  So they blitzed 26 of 29 drop backs, which is.

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  Insane.

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  89.7%. So they broke their own record from last week on that one. They did a really good job in the, in the first quarter. They kind of kept, their blitzes are weird because like I've seen a lot of the, the graphs and the stats of like, how much time Brian Flores gives you to throw?

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  Mm hmm.

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  Versus like what happens to those passes? What he does is he confuses you with a blitz. So the quarterback freezes in the pocket and then the pass rush gets to him eventually.

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  Yep.

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  Um, it's not like it reduces the time to throw by that much. Today, Jared Goff looked very confused in the first quarter.

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  Yeah.

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  And they kind of figured something out. And then as the game went on, it became apparent that what Dan Campbell wanted to do was just control the clock.

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  Control the clock.

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  So he kept the defense.

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  Yeah.

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  On the field, like it was weird. It's like, we want to keep their defense on the field for as long as possible. We want them to throw all these blitzes at us. Eventually they'll get tired. And especially if we're able to run the ball. They called screens at the right time. They called that weird little, uh, uh, trick play to Amon Ra St. Brown where he lined up.

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  Arena football.

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  It was CFL football, right?

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  Yeah.

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  Lined up 15 yards off the line of scrimmage and then hit him at, with a full head of steam coming at the, at the, uh, at the cornerback.

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  Technically a run in the box score.

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  Definitely run.

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  Yeah.

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  In the box score, but yeah, it was just about like Jameer Gibbs. He's going to wear you down. And by the end of the game, you're going to be so tired from chasing him that he's going to get behind you.

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  Yeah. Cause that was, you saw it, the Vikings defense kind of ran out of gas where they were not, again, they played well, like they, if you, if, if you say the Vikings defense is going to hold the Lions offense, who is one of the best offenses in, in the league to 19 points. You'd be like, okay, that they did their job. But at the end, you could tell like missing a couple tackles, Jameer Gibbs being able to run through the line. That was, that was the game plan and they, they put, they did it perfectly. He ran the ball 23 times. Like I said, 153 yards. He's so explosive and the Lions, the Lions defense also played well. We should mention, I, I don't, I, we don't have an update on Jack Campbell. That was really, really scary. He got, uh, stretchered off. It looked like a really bad back injury. I hope he's okay.

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  I hope everything like I, they haven't given us any updates.

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  Just saw that he was in the hospital undergoing tests.

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  It was really, really scary, but the, the Lions defense played well today. Like they, they held their own and they, and, and they did a good job.

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  They did, except there was a, there was one play where two guys knocked each other out.

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  So Brian Branches.

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  It was Brian Branch and he knocked his, his own guy out on that one.

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  Yeah.

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  But then, yeah, DJ Reed had an awesome game today.

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  Okay. So Jack Campbell is resting and will remain in local hospital tonight for continued evaluation, monitoring the team. We'll provide further updates as we have them. I, yeah, we just want to know if he's able to, to move because it was one of those injuries that like guys were crying. It was, it was one of those injuries that it's, it's insane that we like go back and play football right after. And I don't, I don't know how they do it. Uh, it, it was just like really, really scary. And it was weird too, because it was, at first they had another guy, they were talking about getting injured on that play. And then they came back and they're like, oh, actually Jack Campbell's getting a stretcher.

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  Yeah.

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  So.

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  It was bad, like Aiden Hutchinson was crying on the field. And then he hit Kyler Murray on the next play. It was crazy. He was able to like get back in and, and focus, like use it as motivation. I don't know, but it was, you're right. It was one of those moments where it's like, I don't know which team is going to be able to focus after this, or which team should be able to, nobody should be able to focus after something like that. But at the end of the day, you have to.

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  Yeah. But by the way, Max, you're pulling up, uh, fake tweets. I don't understand the people who are like, hey, let me put out some real disinformation about a guy getting hurt that bad. But for some reason Twitter has a million of them and it's just like so ridiculously, I, I don't want to be like a, a, a stickler or hard ass here, but it is disgusting to be like, hey, some guy got really, really badly hurt on the field. Let me, let me throw up some fake AI tweets about his update.

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  Yeah.

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  It's just, it's just weird, bizarre behavior. Uh, for the Vikings, I think we can officially say they have a Kyler Murray problem.

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  Yep.

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  So you could say by watching this game and Kyler overthrowing, under throwing, never being in a rhythm. He did have that, uh, deep ball to Jordan Addison. I would say that the sign that Kyler Murray, we have a Kyler Murray problem is that Justin Jefferson, who is the most even keeled superstar wide receiver you could imagine, who by the way, had an unbelievable catch for a touchdown in the first half, I believe. Justin Jefferson never complains. Justin Jefferson never shows, uh, emotion in a bad way. He is like the most ride or die, good soldier type of guy. Justin Jefferson has caught passes from Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, J J McCarthy, Nick Mullens, Sean Mannion, Josh Dobbs, Jaren Hall, Kellen Mond, Carson Wentz, Max Brosmer.

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  Justin Jefferson has reached his point where he's like, what the fuck is going on? So that would be my point with being like, maybe there's a Kyler Murray issue.

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  Yeah, I mean, it was a great catch that he had today. I think Kyler needs to use his feet more. That's number one.

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  Well, he did have a hamstring at the end of the game.

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  He did at the end of the game, but like when he was running the ball, the offense looked okay. It looked like they were serviceable at times today. And then as the game went on, he kind of stopped running. He hit like the only real threat that they had on offense in the passing game was T J Hawkinson played pretty well.

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  Yeah.

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  And he, he looked to be open most of the time. But yeah, if a big part of their game plan should be, I know, I know K O C is a genius. But I think he needs a dumber guy standing next to him sometimes to just be like, hey, just throw the ball towards Jefferson and let him catch the ball.

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  I'm no longer going to call K O C offensive genius.

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  He's supposed to be.

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  He's supposed to.

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  He needs a dumb guy. He needs a.

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  He's a very good coach.

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  He needs a meathead like us. One guy being like, hey, just throw the ball up and let the best receiver in the world catch it.

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  Yeah. Uh, so the Vikings offense is the 31st offense EPA per play, and they're the second best defense EPA per play. They're 29th in yards per game, 30th in passing yards per game, 31st in offensive TDs per game. Can I throw out a crazy, crazy thought? So the trade deadline is when? It's next week, November 10th, I want to say, is that correct? Maybe next, it's like a two, it's like 10 days away. I think it's Tuesday, November 10th, I believe.

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  It is at 4:00 PM Eastern.

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  Lot of talk about Jonathan Taylor getting traded maybe to the Vikings. Uh, what if I told you the Vikings could trade for a, so Kyler, so far this season has four touchdown passes, zero rushing touchdowns. What if I told you they could trade for a quarterback that has 18 touchdown passes and a rushing touchdown? Would that be something you think you'd be interested in if you were a Minnesota Viking fan?

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  Possibly.

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  Kirk Cousins.

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  That's what I said. Yeah. I thought that on Thursday. It's like Kurt's, Kurt's not bad.

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  Yeah.

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  Kirk is exactly what you need. And it's funny because like.

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  He's good as an outdoor cat today.

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  The offense, the offense finally, like when Kirk was playing for the Vikings, the knock was like, he can't make you win. He will, you will have a very average year, maybe even slightly above average. But when he plays against a bad team, he will no longer be above average. When it counts, he'll be just average Kirk. They would kill for like an average Kirk Cousins.

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  He also.

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  The defense was never that good as it is now when he played.

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  Yeah. And it's like, it's not like the Raiders have an unbelievable running game that is hiding Kirk Cousins. So I, yeah, I, I don't know. I mean, would the, the Raiders would trade him, right?

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  I think they're committed to, it depends on what they get. That's the.

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  What about a Carson Wentz? What about a straight up one for one deal? Kirk Cousins for Carson Wentz?

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  I think that Kirk Cousins, the Raiders should want to trade Kirk Cousins to the Vikings to get something. If it's a good deal. I mean, what, where does the conversation start for Kirk Cousins?

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  I think it's probably Hank, you're, you're a trade expert. You're the one who told us that, uh, Justin Herbert would go for a third and you'd, no, a fifth and you'd throw in a third.

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  Yeah, it might be lower now, but yeah.

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  Okay. So what, what, what would you say? Uh, what, what, what would your Kirk Cousins trade offer be?

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  A third.

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  A third. So he's the same as Justin Herbert?

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  Yeah.

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  Well, I guess not throwing in the fifth.

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  Minus the fifth. Yeah.

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  Yeah. Who do the, let me see, where can I find what the Vikings have for draft picks coming up?

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  Isn't he on like a one, like his, his, his contract? You're not getting, how, how long is his contract?

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  Maybe next year? I forget. I believe it's one or two years.

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  The Vikings have their first, second, they have two thirds, one from Jonathan Gennard deal, uh, with the Eagles. They don't have one in the fourth, and then they have three fifth round picks.

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  Kirk is on a one-year deal.

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  Maybe they could trade back for J J McCarthy.

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  So be a rental. Yeah. Can we, can we say my bad?

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  Yeah. Oh, what? Oh, look, look at the fine print. We said there are backsies in this trade.

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  Mm hmm. If, if he wants to come back.

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  If he wants to come back, I'd, I'd say he probably wouldn't.

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  What if they're like, we'll give you nine?

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  Yeah, then he would probably have to do it.

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  You're stuck wearing 18 in New York.

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  Yeah, they'd have to do it. So I, yeah, I don't know. I, I, I do think it's probably, uh, at a point where you're like, you have a incredible defense that could be, that's a Super Bowl caliber defense and you just need like a B plus offense, like a B offense.

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  You know, he looked pretty good in purple.

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  Who?

• 24:47Speaker 05

  Confirmed, I already know he looks great in purple. Joe Flacco.

• 24:51Speaker 00

  Oh, they're gonna say Joe Fagnano.

• 24:53Speaker 05

  Well, that's, we can have the Flacco conversation again, but yeah, Flacco, Flacco would look good as a Viking.

• 24:59Speaker 00

  Flacco would look good as a Viking.

• 25:00Speaker 05

  Right?

• 25:01Speaker 00

  Damn. That would, he would, you'd have to trade Kyler because you can't bring in someone who's like a full foot taller than him.

• 25:08Speaker 05

  Mm hmm.

• 25:08Speaker 00

  That would, that would kind of fuck everything up.

• 25:10Speaker 05

  That'd be bad.

• 25:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I was impressed with the Lions. The Lions are good. I mean, they, they're just a good football team. And that was a game that everyone was like, oh man, what are they going to do against this blitz? And they found a way.

• 25:20Speaker 05

  I think just running the football to, that has to be their identity now. It's like, they can still do that.

• 25:24Speaker 00

  I'm telling you in this, they have another Montgomery. I know he's not as good as Montgomery, but Vakai was, he was, he was popping. Like he was, he was running hard. What was it? Yeah. 11 for 65 yards.

• 25:35Speaker 05

  Actually, I think it's really important for Detroit to be able to win these kinds of games where they don't have to score a million points.

• 25:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:40Speaker 05

  It's going to be very good for them as they, as they go down the stretch.

• 25:43Speaker 00

  Do you, we think any, what, what do we think about the, uh, so the punt, it was a talking point. The Vikings punted

• 25:50Speaker 05

  fourth and five.

• 25:51Speaker 00

  Five on their own 33 with 301 left. The, the bots and the, the analytics simulators all were like, this was the worst punt ever. I don't know. When you have a really good defense and your offense cannot get five yards, I don't see it as the worst punt ever. They never got the ball back. That part sucks, but they also, they do, they are a defensive team.

• 26:12Speaker 05

  Right. I agree. I agree that I probably would have punted there.

• 26:17Speaker 00

  It's asking a lot for your defense, but that also is kind of the deal with the Vikings. You ask a lot of your defense.

• 26:22Speaker 05

  I probably would have punted there. It, it feels like if you're going up against Dan Campbell, you feel like lesser of a man.

• 26:28Speaker 00

  Right.

• 26:28Speaker 05

  Those types of situations because you know that he'd go for it.

• 26:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:31Speaker 05

  So you have to just be committed to, to what your analytics, what your nerd says. And I would trust my guy on this one. Fourth and five on your own 33. Kyler can't really do much. Yeah, I'd punt it. I'd punt it.

• 26:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. Uh, anything else on this game?

• 26:46Speaker 00

  Kyler's guy, he just looks so small.

• 26:47Speaker 05

  The whole division's really good.

• 26:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. The NFC North is just.

• 26:50Speaker 04

  Didn't love the Lions jerseys.

• 26:52Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. Lions jerseys. We had two bad jerseys today. It was the Jaguars and the Lions. The Lions, they look like the Panthers. I don't know why they're doing that. Lions also just have a great, they have a great color set.

• 27:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, they don't need to do anything. That, that helmet that they wore today, that's a helmet that should be like in an office somewhere.

• 27:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:07Speaker 05

  On display. It should not be on a football field.

• 27:09Speaker 00

  Same with the Jaguars.

• 27:10Speaker 05

  I kind of like the Jaguars. I disagree about the.

• 27:12Speaker 00

  But it's not a real helmet. It's not real.

• 27:14Speaker 05

  But that's the Jaguars. The Jaguars don't really have uniforms.

• 27:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:16Speaker 05

  Jaguars have uniforms like, like they, I feel like they wear a different one, like four different uniforms every year.

• 27:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, that is true. The Jaguars can't wear whatever. It's just like, whatever. It's the Jaguars. But the Lions, like you have great uniforms. You have a great logo.

• 27:29Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 27:29Speaker 00

  Don't fuck around with it.

• 27:30Speaker 05

  Agreed.

• 27:31Speaker 00

  Okay. Uh, next up, the little brother is still the little brother. Steelers 27, Browns six. Uh, the most little brother energy possible from the, from the, from the Browns to get into this game. We mentioned on Friday that 1988 was the last time the Browns swept the season series against the Steelers. And this is also the 23rd straight regular season game that the Browns have lost in Pittsburgh. 23 straight is insane. I, now obviously you get the, the COVID Baker Mayfield playoff win thrown in there, which is significant, but 23 straight regular season games in Pittsburgh and you haven't won? That's nuts.

• 28:10Speaker 05

  It's really bad.

• 28:11Speaker 00

  That's like you luck into one eventually.

• 28:13Speaker 05

  The Browns, they, they started to feel themselves a little bit too early this year.

• 28:17Speaker 00

  And they suck at the beginning of games.

• 28:19Speaker 05

  Jared verse before the game, just being like, yeah, it's a dirty team. I don't like playing against them.

• 28:23Speaker 00

  Not great.

• 28:23Speaker 05

  Like giving them more bulletin board material. The Steelers offensive line was awesome today.

• 28:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:27Speaker 05

  They were really, and their defensive line was really, really good. Uh, so the, the strength that the Browns had was their defense. Their defense didn't really show up. And their offensive line got manhandled by T J Watt, Nick Herbig, and, um, who else got on the board? Somebody else got a couple sacks.

• 28:43Speaker 00

  Alex Highsmith was everywhere.

• 28:44Speaker 05

  Queen might've gotten a couple sacks.

• 28:45Speaker 00

  Eight sacks to Deshaun Watson. By the way, uh, there are, Alakwepa, which is a high school, has 10 wins at, uh, Heinz Field slash Accra Sure Stadium, and the Browns have two. Yeah, just gonna throw that out there. Uh, there's like, I have a list of Pine Richland has five wins at that stadium. They're also a high school in Pittsburgh area. Browns have two. But yeah, it was, the Browns cannot, they, they start every game slow. They're now in the first quarter of this season, they've been outscored 65 to 13. Every game's slow, and they hope their defense can keep them close and Deshaun can be a hero in the fourth. The Steelers just like squash that out, including that, I gotta give credit, Mike McCarthy,

• 29:30Speaker 00

  was he looking a little fat? Yeah, he always is looking a little fat, but ballsy move at the end of the half to do the push tush with no time left, like with two seconds left where it's like you get no points if you don't get this. I don't think they had any timeouts. That was, that was an anti Mike Tomlin move. I don't see Mike Tomlin doing that. He takes the points in a divisional game. You take the points all day.

• 29:52Speaker 05

  Because you know why? This is gonna be a field goal game. If you spend all week saying, hey, there's gonna be a field goal game. Funny how it usually ends up being a field goal game. But yeah, it was, it was a, it was a smart move. I liked it. It was aggressive. I feel like that with that formation that they have with Pat Frymough running it in, and Aaron Rodgers just like standing still. Like, we should nominate, Eric, can you put this? We need to nominate Aaron Rodgers for cuck of the year award for his performance on tush pushes where he just stands and watches with his hands in his pocket. But that, I feel like that play always works when you have Pat Frymough, a tight end who's strong as fuck, and then you got two other guys pushing him.

• 30:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, it, it, it always works. And it made up for some really bad play calling at the goal. I, I wrote this down. It didn't end up mattering, but the Steelers, they're just obsessed with, with goal line fades on first and second down. They did it. When we were, when we had the cave parlay, we were looking for Jalen Warren to get a run, and they're just like, goal line fade, goal line fade, run for one yard, field goal. They did that in the first quarter, I think. And it was just like, what the fuck are they doing?

• 30:54Speaker 05

  They do like the opposite of what we used to criticize coaches for doing. Like, go and run, run, pass. They'll go pass, pass, run, all the time in those short yards. They love trying to get the ball to DK McCaffrey. DK with one of the worst drop interceptions that I've ever seen today.

• 31:08Speaker 00

  So bad.

• 31:08Speaker 05

  It's, I don't know what happened. Did he get too strong? Is he so strong now that he can't catch a ball?

• 31:15Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 31:15Speaker 05

  I think it might be one of those things like David Boston had that. You get, you get muscle, even your hands get muscle bound.

• 31:21Speaker 00

  Well, now, it's like the Colin Coward, like, we're, we're good now. Remember when he did the, we're good now LeBron? Cause we have Ben Simmons. I feel like that when I watched Darnell Washington catch. I'm like, we're good DK. We got a guy who's just physically imposing and can catch the ball and big body everyone in his path. Cause that's what happens every time Darnell Washington catches the ball. It's just like, he catches the ball and it's just instant. I can't wait to see which person he puts through the center of the earth's crust.

• 31:47Speaker 05

  I want to say, there should be a channel like Red Zone, but it's just close ups of Darnell Washington in real time. Like live, a live feed of Darnell and what he does on every play. Because you're right, like, there's nothing better than watching him run with a football. Even when, he's not stiff arming guys, even when he's running. It's just, it's fun to see a guy that's that big run that fast.

• 32:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. I also liked.

• 32:09Speaker 05

  How did Georgia ever like not score a touchdown? When they had Darnell and Brock Bowers?

• 32:15Speaker 00

  At the same time, they did win a lot of.

• 32:16Speaker 05

  They won a lot of football games.

• 32:17Speaker 00

  They won two, two national titles.

• 32:19Speaker 05

  How did that drive, how did they ever have a drive that didn't end in a touchdown?

• 32:21Speaker 00

  They won a shitload of football games. Stetson Bennett, the chosen one. Stetson Bennett, remember Jerry watched one game of football. He watched Georgia versus TCU and he's like, how does Stetson Bennett not go 1-1? You wanted to play a quick game of regrettable quotes that you probably shouldn't say, from Zion Johnson, the offensive lineman for the Browns? He said, we can't let the quarterback get touched that much.

• 32:46Speaker 05

  Well, no fact.

• 32:48Speaker 00

  Actually, that is a fact. Yeah.

• 32:49Speaker 05

  Yeah. Not, I would say not regret.

• 32:51Speaker 00

  Not, he's actually being, I don't know if he's talking about the game or in life.

• 32:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, no.

• 32:56Speaker 00

  Don't, don't touch Deshaun Watson.

• 32:58Speaker 05

  Spot on.

• 32:59Speaker 00

  Yeah. We can't let him get touched that much.

• 33:01Speaker 05

  He went to the blue injury tent today for a little bit.

• 33:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, we saw a little Shadus.

• 33:04Speaker 05

  A little Stradusse got in the game. I thought we were gonna get a lot more Shadusse.

• 33:08Speaker 00

  Oh, here's, here's a regrettable quote for Deshaun Watson. Put the sacks on me.

• 33:11Speaker 05

  Well, again, that's.

• 33:14Speaker 00

  Maybe that's a Peyton Manning training tables kind of situation.

• 33:17Speaker 05

  I would say that's more of like, you don't, you don't want people around Deshaun saying that.

• 33:21Speaker 00

  Yeah. But he wants the sacks on him.

• 33:23Speaker 05

  Have the Browns learn?

• 33:24Speaker 00

  Pause.

• 33:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 33:25Speaker 00

  I.

• 33:27Speaker 05

  Party at fours.

• 33:28Speaker 00

  I'm starting to, I'm starting to get, we talked about it. I, the, the, this was the, the battle to see who was like goodish, or like, you know, can elevate to goodish plus. I think the Steelers are, are good because Jalen Warren is really good. The Browns stink. They might go to the playoffs still because they have an easy schedule. But this team, they, they, they're not. They're, they're, it's because their defense has not been as dominant. And as soon as their defense starts to, to wane, it's like, oh yeah, we do have Deshaun Watson as our quarterback. And he starts so slow in every game. It's.

• 34:04Speaker 05

  They had, I believe, negative one yard in the first quarter.

• 34:06Speaker 00

  It was so bad.

• 34:07Speaker 05

  And, and the offense as a whole just didn't do anything all day. It's not like the, the fourth quarter Browns have been a thing. That didn't show up. They practiced with Renegade this week. They blasted Renegade to, to get ready for, for going to Accra sure. And it didn't work, obviously. Nothing happened in the fourth quarter. The Steelers, I think the Steelers are good.

• 34:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, Jalen Warren.

• 34:27Speaker 05

  And, and they're good at home. I believe they're 4-0 at home.

• 34:30Speaker 00

  Uh, yeah, I think that tracks.

• 34:34Speaker 05

  Cause they have, they have a formula now where it's not, the formula used to be just kind of like play shitty football and then hope that TJ Watt can get a sack fumble and put you in scoring position. Now they have TJ Watt and the entire rest of the defense playing really well. And they have an offense that has an identity. They can run the football and, and Aaron Rodgers can manage some stuff.

• 34:55Speaker 00

  Jalen Warren is a top five running back this year. And it's like, watching him play that, that changes what I think about the Steelers because the Steelers of the past few years is like, how are you going to move the football? And the answer was, we don't know. We were gonna throw a bunch of screens. And if, if we get into a third and 10, we're gonna, we're gonna throw a pass for five yards and have our player get tackled by 16 defenders. Now they have Jalen Warren and he is electric and he has the pop. And Rico Dowdell was running well, too. So, yeah, I think they have, they, and like, Aaron Rodgers can still make a lot of the throws, just some, you know, DK McCaffrey drops him. And, you know, yeah, I, I, I think these are different than the Mike Tomlin Steelers we've watched for the last five years.

• 35:40Speaker 05

  I would agree. I also want to get the, all the mic'd up between, uh, Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers in the back and forth. Cause there was a moment today where they had that little, that little doot to do, where I think it was at the end of the first half, where McCarthy was calling some plays and Aaron Rodgers was just looking at him and you could tell in his eyes. He was looking at the huddle and being like, I'm not, can you believe this guy's shit right here? He's trying to pull on us? I would love to hear actually what the mic'd up between those two is.

• 36:03Speaker 00

  I would like to, this is gonna, this is kind of a weird thing to say, but I just thought of it during the game when I was watching and they zoomed in on Mike McCarthy. Do you think, do you think a UFC champion could do a rear naked chokehold on Mike McCarthy and make him tap? Cause I don't. His neck is so thick. I don't actually think you could choke him out.

• 36:24Speaker 05

  I think a heavyweight.

• 36:26Speaker 00

  I think he has defense.

• 36:27Speaker 05

  I think a heavyweight could do it.

• 36:28Speaker 00

  I don't know. I don't think so. It does, it's not even a neck really either.

• 36:33Speaker 05

  I think he can take.

• 36:33Speaker 00

  It's kind of just fused to his shoulders.

• 36:36Speaker 05

  His neck might be a Diaz, brother.

• 36:37Speaker 00

  Look at it. He doesn't have a neck.

• 36:39Speaker 05

  It might be impossible. Yeah.

• 36:40Speaker 00

  You can't be like, oh, Mike McCarthy gave up his chin. What are you talking about? There is no chin to give up. It just, it's his mouth kind of just ends up in his chest.

• 36:49Speaker 05

  Like impossible to knock out, like Butterbean.

• 36:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:52Speaker 05

  He just has to take a bunch of shots.

• 36:54Speaker 00

  Max is actually trying to physically think about it right now. Yeah, I think if you lifted his, his head. I don't think there's anything under there. I think it's more neck and then, and like his chest. But like, if you go like, if you go up. Yeah, I think if you lifted his chin, it would just be chest.

• 37:09Speaker 05

  What if you had like a, a turkey leg that you dangled above his mouth? So he would like lift his mouth up, open his mouth.

• 37:16Speaker 00

  You're not talking into the mic.

• 37:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, but you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, if he was looking up, he exposes his neck.

• 37:23Speaker 00

  I don't think there's a neck there.

• 37:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, like if you dangled some.

• 37:27Speaker 00

  We can figure out a way to do it. If you lift his neck up, it just is a sign saying, here's Mike McCarthy's chest. Do you think if we ever interviewed him in person, we could, we could test this theory? Yeah, just like, let me, Zach's last row back question. He'd just be like, hey, coach, can I just, can I just get my arm around your neck real quick and just see what it feels like? I think you'd have to pinch his nose. Yeah, like. The way around it. Like a dog with hiccups, you gotta cover the nose. Yeah, I think that's how you tap him.

• 37:52Speaker 05

  That's how you choke him out. Yeah. Just fill his nose with putty.

• 37:56Speaker 00

  I like it. Oh, just something to think about. Mike McCarthy. Hank, take that picture. Oh.

• 38:02Speaker 05

  I don't like that.

• 38:02Speaker 00

  They're doing the, the, the America's pick.

• 38:05Speaker 05

  Football night in America.

• 38:06Speaker 00

  Across the board commies.

• 38:08Speaker 05

  I don't remember the last time I've, I've seen that. It feels like I've never seen that in my life.

• 38:12Speaker 00

  Waiting all day for Sunday night. This, this is a peak Mike Francesca rant game. Remember his famous rant? He was like, that's so stupid. No one waits all day for Sunday night. You watch football all day. It's true. It's good rant. Good rant. You pull, can you, can you pull up his rant real quick?

• 38:30Speaker 05

  This is gonna be so terrible, Max.

• 38:32Speaker 00

  It's such a good rant.

• 38:34Speaker 06

  It's such a bad game.

• 38:36Speaker 00

  It's such a

• 38:36Speaker 06

  What about a fun game?

• 38:37Speaker 05

  Such a mean game, cuz with the, with the Cowboys losing like they did today. If we win, I'm gonna, I'm gonna think some stupid things.

• 38:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:46Speaker 06

  Don't.

• 38:47Speaker 05

  I know.

• 38:47Speaker 06

  Don't.

• 38:48Speaker 05

  No, I haven't. I haven't. I can't.

• 38:51Speaker 06

  You refuse to accept the fact that your team fucking stinks.

• 38:54Speaker 05

  No, I just said, I will think stupid things.

• 38:56Speaker 02

  You wanna win?

• 38:58Speaker 05

  I do wanna win.

• 38:59Speaker 02

  And you'll be back.

• 38:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, why wouldn't you wanna win? I wanna win and then I'll

• 39:01Speaker 06

  I wanna win too.

• 39:02Speaker 05

  I'll think stupid things.

• 39:03Speaker 06

  I wanna win too.

• 39:05Speaker 05

  But no, I, the, the way that we've looked has given me a great reason to not think stupid things. So I haven't been.

• 39:13Speaker 00

  This is not, Max isn't gonna find it. He's, he's one of our worst Googlers.

• 39:17Speaker 06

  What do you, I did Francesa rant, Sunday Night Football. What else do you want me to search?

• 39:22Speaker 05

  Uh, waiting all day for Sunday night.

• 39:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, waiting all day for Sunday night. I think Blutman's tweeted it.

• 39:28Speaker 06

  Got it.

• 39:29Speaker 00

  There you go. That was, there you go.

• 39:33Speaker 00

  Uh, alright, so anything else on this game other than, oh, Harold Fannin is a stud. And also reminder, Maxion is back this week.

• 39:42Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 39:42Speaker 00

  So Maxion's back. Listen, I know like Sun Belt and some of these other Conference USA have tried to take over the week. Maxion is the true weeknight football. It's November. That's when we play Maxion. That's when we're, that's when we get some weird shit going on. Alright, do you have it?

• 39:58Speaker 06

  It's seven and a half minutes.

• 39:59Speaker 00

  Alright, so then we don't have it. That's fine. But there was, everyone should go look up the rant. It was great. It's fucking great rant. Uh, okay. Next up, we can go quickly on this game. Bills 36, Ravens 10. Joe Fagnano.

• 40:14Speaker 05

  We're doing it.

• 40:15Speaker 00

  I'll tell you what, Joe Fagnano, those first two passes he threw, I thought he was going to be playing in the NFL for 15 years. And then he played the rest of the game and Joe Fagnano, I don't think is an NFL quarterback. But he might, you know, listen, he, he has to probably play Thursday night and they asked him if he's healthy enough. He said, I think so.

• 40:36Speaker 05

  For a second, you had to squint really hard, but for a second you thought, is that guy, is that a mix of, uh, of Joe Flacco and, um, Chase McSorley out there?

• 40:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:46Speaker 05

  I thought to myself for a moment, yeah, there's something about Fagnano.

• 40:49Speaker 00

  There really is.

• 40:50Speaker 05

  There was. I just trusted him the way he was out there. And I was looking forward to all the Fagnano versus Lamar Jackson discourse. It's gonna be a great time just to be a football fan.

• 40:59Speaker 00

  He, um, the first two throws were awesome.

• 41:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 41:02Speaker 00

  This game should have been awesome. Lamar gets hurt right away.

• 41:05Speaker 05

  Everything was on schedule, Fagnano.

• 41:07Speaker 00

  Yep. Uh, Snoop gets hurt, four play, four passes in. And then it was just, the Bills just, I mean, the Bills are really, really good.

• 41:14Speaker 05

  That's what I'm thinking.

• 41:15Speaker 00

  When you have a Fagnano in there, it's like they're gonna just tee off.

• 41:18Speaker 05

  I, I'm thinking you have to at least make the call for Flacco to bring him home. I think that the Ravens get first crack at him. Or if you want to bring him home.

• 41:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:27Speaker 05

  You can. If you say no, then he becomes property of the Vikings.

• 41:31Speaker 00

  Are the Ravens, I think we might break the record for seasons from hell because the Ravens are now officially in that category with Lamar being hurt, coming back, getting hurt almost instantly, going on IR.

• 41:43Speaker 05

  It turns out you're just in hell. You just lived there.

• 41:45Speaker 00

  You're in hell and this team is a bad football team when Lamar Jackson's not playing quarterback for him.

• 41:51Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 41:52Speaker 00

  That's just a fact.

• 41:52Speaker 05

  It sucked because it was the very first play today, the very first pass that he threw.

• 41:56Speaker 00

  And it was gonna be a great game.

• 41:57Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 41:57Speaker 00

  And, and the Bills, I mean, the, listen, the Bills are just good. DJ Moore being back, like it's a difference that you can see on the field. Like he had an incredible catch. Everything opens up. Everything underneath opens up when DJ Moore's out on the field. Josh Allen is, he didn't have to like be Superman. He still kinda was at, at certain times in the game. The Bills are just way better than a Joe Fagnano, uh, led Ravens team. You know, Joe Fagnano played seven years of college football? Pretty good for him.

• 42:26Speaker 05

  I did not know that. Is he a doctor?

• 42:27Speaker 00

  Uh, no, he played, I think, four years at Maine and then three years at UConn.

• 42:31Speaker 05

  I love that. Do you think he ever peed in that, in that urinal right there?

• 42:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, really good. Uh, I don't think so. That's a basketball urinal.

• 42:38Speaker 05

  But do you think he ever would happen?

• 42:40Speaker 00

  By the way, update, uh, Dan Hurley quote tweeted it and said that Gino also pissed in this urinal.

• 42:46Speaker 05

  Huge.

• 42:47Speaker 00

  So that's like, how many, that's like, what does he have, like 25 national titles? I think Gino does.

• 42:52Speaker 05

  There, there could have been, there could have been a moment where Fagnano found himself in that office.

• 42:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:56Speaker 05

  Like the starting quarterback meets with the basketball team for some reason. I don't know.

• 43:00Speaker 00

  But I, I did the, the cursory, like, let's look up what Joe Fagnano's all about. And it, it basically was articles that had been posted an hour ago being like five facts about Joe Fagnano. And it was like, he played football at Maine. Then he played football at UConn. He won the MVP for the Fenway Bowl in 2024. Only threw one interception his last year in 2025. Actually, the fun fact about Joe Fagnano is that he got Jim Mora Jr. A job at Colorado State.

• 43:26Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 43:27Speaker 00

  He was that good. I think he was 28 touchdowns, one interception is his last year at UConn.

• 43:31Speaker 05

  And he's gotta love football. If you play, if you play seven years at Maine.

• 43:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:35Speaker 05

  And UConn, you gotta love football.

• 43:37Speaker 00

  You gotta love football. And he, again, they asked him, is he healthy enough to play Thursday? And he said, I think so. So this is the downside. We now have a Thursday night game Jaguars versus Ravens. That is

• 43:48Speaker 05

  Yeah. It's gross.

• 43:50Speaker 00

  I'm gonna say it. I don't think we should, I think we should do a choose your own venture on that game. I'm gonna say it. I feel like that game does, isn't stream worthy. We'll be streaming Bears on Monday night. I feel like, I don't need, but what if Joe Fagnano does something awesome?

• 44:05Speaker 05

  You don't wanna miss that.

• 44:06Speaker 00

  Well, maybe zoom in. I mean, Joe Fagnano could do something sick. He could.

• 44:11Speaker 05

  I say we do zoom.

• 44:12Speaker 00

  Those two

• 44:13Speaker 06

  Joe Fagnano stinks.

• 44:14Speaker 00

  Those two throws though, from Joe Fagnano were electric.

• 44:18Speaker 06

  I watched so much of this game cuz I was, I was so excited for it.

• 44:22Speaker 00

  I know.

• 44:23Speaker 06

  A lot of money on the over and I really wanted to will that, that game to being over and Joe Fagnano just couldn't get me anything.

• 44:32Speaker 05

  You know what this game is? This Thursday night game? This is a, uh, this is a resume game for Declan Doyle.

• 44:39Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 44:40Speaker 05

  This is Declan Doyle's

• 44:41Speaker 00

  What can you make out of Joe Fagnano?

• 44:42Speaker 05

  This is Declan Doyle's job interview.

• 44:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:45Speaker 05

  This is number one interview for Declan Doyle. It will determine how many teams call him at the end of this year. If he's able to make Fagnano look serviceable.

• 44:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:53Speaker 05

  Then that'll go a long way.

• 44:55Speaker 06

  I will say Joe Fagnano probably hasn't got a first team rep ever.

• 45:00Speaker 05

  Probably not.

• 45:01Speaker 00

  No, definitely not.

• 45:02Speaker 06

  So maybe he just needs a couple of reps this week in practice.

• 45:05Speaker 05

  Right.

• 45:06Speaker 00

  You know what? I'm gonna believe in him. I'm gonna be part of the Nanos and we choosing that name very, very carefully.

• 45:12Speaker 05

  The fan club?

• 45:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, we're the Nanos.

• 45:13Speaker 05

  I, I did like how the announcer was making sure to say Fagnano.

• 45:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:16Speaker 05

  Fagnano. Fagnano. They became real Italian, real paisans.

• 45:20Speaker 00

  Fagnano.

• 45:20Speaker 05

  Fagnano. How do you say it, Max?

• 45:23Speaker 06

  Fagnano? I don't know.

• 45:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:25Speaker 06

  Um, what's the, do you think that, that agent has, has called him yet?

• 45:30Speaker 00

  Oh, has to have.

• 45:31Speaker 06

  What's?

• 45:32Speaker 00

  Stellato.

• 45:33Speaker 06

  Stellato.

• 45:33Speaker 00

  Stellato's gotta have his hands all over Joe Fagnano.

• 45:36Speaker 06

  Has to.

• 45:37Speaker 00

  Tommy DeVito, you're old news, buddy.

• 45:42Speaker 00

  He also, like, he was the emergency quarterback today. Like he, we, oh man, if we're gonna start him on Thursday night football.

• 45:51Speaker 05

  I didn't want him to get injured, but I did wanna see how chaotic it would have been if he couldn't play for some reason.

• 45:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, what they said, I think Justice Hill.

• 45:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, that just would have been awesome. Just to see.

• 46:01Speaker 00

  I, I believe was what they said. It was just been Wildcat, Wildcat, Wildcat.

• 46:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, that's basically what the Buccaneers did.

• 46:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. They did it well. They did it really well. Alright, Bills are really good though. I gotta know what else to say that they, I can't really grade. Uh, like the Bills defense played great today and they got a lot of pressure, but you can't really grade it cuz of who they were playing. But that would be a positive if you're a Bills fan being like, hey, we, we didn't get, cuz the alternative is you get like sliced and diced by Joe Fagnano and then you're, then you're like questioning life.

• 46:32Speaker 05

  Right. So Baltimore, they are the first team in NFL, uh, in the NFL to have three quarterbacks throw a pass before halftime. Since the 2017 Cowboys who did it. Uh, Broderick Washington, you remember that interception that he had where, oh, hey, the Ravens might be able to do something today. I looked it up cuz I was like, I can't remember ever hearing in my entire life, like Broderick Washington ever recovering anything. Turns out he's recovered a couple of fumbles from Kyle Van Noy, but it got me thinking if, who the guy who's been in the NFL for the longest without ever touching the ball is.

• 47:03Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 47:04Speaker 05

  I looked it up.

• 47:05Speaker 00

  That, yeah, but go ahead, tell us.

• 47:07Speaker 05

  It's Garrett Bowles.

• 47:08Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 47:08Speaker 05

  On the, uh, on the Broncos. So I guess he's played 9,792 snaps. And Sean Payton targeted him last year.

• 47:16Speaker 00

  Just so he can touch it.

• 47:17Speaker 05

  Play to get him to touch the ball. I, I want to be able to bet on Garrett Bowles to have one reception in every game.

• 47:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:24Speaker 05

  Cuz I feel like Sean Payton is going to try to get him that touch.

• 47:27Speaker 00

  Definitely.

• 47:27Speaker 05

  Cuz he doesn't want him to retire as the guy.

• 47:29Speaker 00

  Who never touched the ball.

• 47:30Speaker 05

  Cuz that would suck. Like a lot of these interior linemen, they, they, you will just never touch the ball ever.

• 47:34Speaker 00

  That was, uh, I remember we talked to Joe Thomas once and he was like, yeah, I played in the NFL for a decade plus Hall of Fame career. And I, I think he, he actually like timed it. He, he touched the football for like 12 seconds total.

• 47:46Speaker 05

  Yeah. This guy, that's such a bummer.

• 47:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, such a bummer.

• 47:50Speaker 05

  Like, let, let Garrett Bowles catch a pass or do one of those weird inside handoffs to him. I don't care. Just get, get the ball in his hand for a second.

• 47:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:56Speaker 05

  Or let him take a knee at the end of the game.

• 47:58Speaker 00

  I mean, Bo Nix probably would just throw it to him.

• 48:00Speaker 05

  On accident.

• 48:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, 100%.

• 48:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 48:02Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 48:03Speaker 05

  Uh, one other thing, Roquan Smith apparently tried to kill Josh Allen today.

• 48:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:07Speaker 05

  Did you see that?

• 48:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:08Speaker 05

  That was pretty bad. I feel like that's gonna be a suspension from the league.

• 48:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:11Speaker 05

  Cuz it, it, I don't know. I'm not a doctor, but it looked like he, he could have snapped his neck or at least it looked like he was trying to.

• 48:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:19Speaker 05

  Roquan, you gotta chill out.

• 48:21Speaker 00

  Chill out, man. By the way, I just, uh, he like wrenched him.

• 48:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 48:26Speaker 00

  Uh, see, that's where, that's where Mike McCarthy, like his, his head doesn't even move.

• 48:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 48:32Speaker 00

  It just stays firmly in place.

• 48:34Speaker 06

  Well, unless, unless he looks up.

• 48:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, then it, but again, I think it's all chest. Uh, I have bad news.

• 48:40Speaker 05

  Thorax, like insects.

• 48:41Speaker 00

  Bad breaking moose.

• 48:45Speaker 00

  I was, uh, wrong about, uh, just Fagnano versus the Jaguars on Thursday Night Football. The Ravens also have Monday Night Football the next week against the Chargers.

• 48:54Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 48:55Speaker 00

  The Chargers.

• 48:58Speaker 00

  How, how? Permission to watch mon- not watch Monday Night Football that day.

• 49:02Speaker 05

  I'm gonna do it.

• 49:03Speaker 00

  I'm.

• 49:04Speaker 05

  I'm gonna do it. That's gonna, Joe, Joe Buck and Troy Aikman are gonna get to a fistfight.

• 49:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's gonna be a tough one for them.

• 49:09Speaker 05

  Try to get through that one. Try to, try to have the buddy buddy, real pleasant conversation for three hours when you're watching Justin Herbert versus Fagnano.

• 49:16Speaker 00

  ESPN, Jimmy Pitaro might have to be like, hey, Peter Herb Street's gotta be on this broadcast. Like just as, just as a buffer between the two of you.

• 49:24Speaker 05

  Wait, what did, uh, what's that guy's name from the Ravens? Skip Bayless used to call me that, Joe.

• 49:31Speaker 00

  Oh, man, that's, I, Ravens Chargers? Oh.

• 49:36Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 49:37Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 49:38Speaker 05

  I mean, it would've, it would've been awesome if it was the Harbaugh's.

• 49:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. Although he was fired well before the schedule came out.

• 49:44Speaker 05

  I know.

• 49:45Speaker 00

  But still, maybe we can.

• 49:47Speaker 05

  This might be Harbaugh revenge for his brother. This, this is where the Chargers get their win.

• 49:52Speaker 00

  They probably get a win.

• 49:53Speaker 05

  This is where Hugh Jackson gets to flush the toilet. Yeah.

• 49:56Speaker 00

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• 51:59Speaker 00

  Okay, we're back and, uh, we're gonna talk about the Bengals 43 Titans 36, but we should also say, we took a little break to watch some of Sunday Night Football. As we are recording right now, it is 16 to 10 commanders. It is a gross game. We just watched Jake Elliott, uh, make a kick then miss a kick. And, uh, yeah, I, I still, I still don't know why, why they put this game on Sunday Night Football, but we're gonna watch the last nine minutes together while we're podding.

• 52:31Speaker 05

  It's, it's perverted stuff. If you don't have a dog in this fight, I don't know why you're watching it. Um, this should be for Max and my eyes only.

• 52:38Speaker 00

  Barely, but like.

• 52:39Speaker 05

  Barely even our eyes. Yeah.

• 52:41Speaker 00

  Max, it's just, everything the Eagles do on offense is so, like, it takes every ounce of energy to gain like four yards. We don't have real players. I know. You have six string running back. Yeah, we don't have real players. Yeah. All right. Let's talk Bengals 43 Titans 36. This was maybe the most entertaining game of the early slate. It was crazy. The fact that we had, how many, I can't even do the math. How many points is that? 79 points?

• 53:11Speaker 05

  79 points. Yeah. 43 36.

• 53:13Speaker 00

  36 points, most points the Titans have scored in five years in a game. It was back and forth. Pretty much like, uh, it's the, the Jim Valvano, you have to laugh, you have to cry. What's the other thing?

• 53:26Speaker 05

  Come.

• 53:26Speaker 00

  Come. Uh, to live, to, to do the whole, you know, to live a full day. That was Joe Burrow's stat line. He threw three picks. He threw five touchdowns, 462 yards, ran in the, the, what was the game winning touchdown. He did everything. It was bad Joe, it was good Joe. It was essentially from watching, it was like the Bengals, and they kind of did this last week with the Ravens too, when they were down 13 nothing at half, where they just know they can like, whenever they want, they can just start ripping the ball to, to Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, and it will work because those two guys had 21 catches, three touchdowns and 196 yards, or sorry, 296 yards combined. It

• 54:11Speaker 00

  was, they just hit the, the button and they, and, and they were able to stave off the Titans, who looked good, competent.

• 54:19Speaker 05

  The, uh, the Bengals did go down exactly 13 nothing again.

• 54:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:22Speaker 05

  And then they started to respond. Burrow ended with 462 yards, five, yeah, five touchdowns, three picks. He's the, uh, second guy in the history of the league to, to have 450 yards, five pass touchdowns and a rush touchdown in the game. And the other guy was Norm Van Brocklin in that game where he had 554 passing yards, set the league record, still hasn't been beaten.

• 54:44Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 54:44Speaker 05

  So, uh, yeah. I mean, Joe looked great. There were some bad throws, but he could.

• 54:49Speaker 00

  Was that Williams?

• 54:49Speaker 05

  That was Williams.

• 54:50Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 54:51Speaker 05

  That was big, that was big for Antonio, Antonio. Um, it was.

• 54:56Speaker 00

  I don't know if he's good enough to get a nickname like that.

• 54:58Speaker 05

  That's just what I, that's just what I, that's not really a nickname. That's just me just singing Biggie Smalls.

• 55:03Speaker 00

  Okay, for Antonio Williams.

• 55:05Speaker 05

  Um, he will be good.

• 55:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:07Speaker 05

  Just wait. Uh, but.

• 55:08Speaker 00

  I ladder him. I followed you up the ladder.

• 55:10Speaker 05

  Joe Burrow just had, uh, he just had a game where he, he could not, he could not stop slinging the football.

• 55:16Speaker 00

  He did it all. He filled the whole, like, you can't tell the story of this game without just Joe Burrow did it all. He did the most. And then I, so the Bengals are now, uh, five and two, because I think they had their buy, uh, yeah, they're five and two. I would be concerned if I were a Bengals fan because, uh, well, all right, let's go good news first. Good news, Joe Burrow, you're five and two, Joe Burrow's still playing. The, the offense can score at will. I would say that if you wanna like, go best offenses in the league, I, it's like Bills and Bengals, right? Like Lions maybe, but like, it's Niners get in there, but it feels like the Bengals have a switch that they, that very few teams have where it's like.

• 56:00Speaker 05

  Track meet.

• 56:01Speaker 00

  We can, we can, we can block for Joe and Joe will find the guys and the guys are better than your guys.

• 56:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, they can hit the track meet button.

• 56:07Speaker 00

  But.

• 56:07Speaker 05

  And just, and turn any game into shootout and trust the fact that chances are they'll win more shootouts than they'll lose.

• 56:13Speaker 00

  Right. The, the, the thing that would make you concerned if you're a Bengals fan is you just made Cam Ward have, uh, look good and have his best game as a pro, which, what's going on with that? And Tony Pollard ran all over you. Cam Ward had.

• 56:28Speaker 05

  Tony Pollard's been playing pretty good for the last couple of weeks.

• 56:30Speaker 00

  But still, like, this is, the whole thing with the Bengals this year was invested in the defense, Dexter Lawrence, it's gonna be fixed. We're not gonna have to win these type of games anymore.

• 56:40Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 56:40Speaker 00

  And Cam Ward has not looked good as a NFL quarterback. Today, he didn't throw any picks, two touchdowns, 300 yards. Like, he looked, he looked good and he didn't even have Cornell Tate. So that would concern me, but you could maybe say, hey, look, it's, these games happen, which I, I actually do prescribe to that theory that it's like, you do get into random games that aren't, they're, they're kind of outlier games where it's like, everything just goes crazy and it's just back and forth, back and forth. And then you'll have games where it's just everything slogged down. Just something to think about that Cam Ward looked better than he's ever looked, uh, in an NFL game.

• 57:18Speaker 05

  Sometimes the game gets away from you. And, and there's just gonna be guys that are wide open, running downfield, uh, next week against, is it the Falcons next week for the, uh, for the Bengals?

• 57:28Speaker 00

  That's an over.

• 57:28Speaker 05

  That's gonna be a fun game. That's another one that might get away from the Bengals. But yeah, after the first like three weeks of this year, we thought maybe the Bengals have just completely fixed their defense. Um, it's not completely fixed, but at their best, they're still like miles ahead of where they have been for the last three seasons.

• 57:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:44Speaker 05

  So I, I think it might just be one that got away from them a little bit. And yeah, I guess if you're the Titans, this is probably like, this game might be the, the most fun that you'll have watching football this year.

• 57:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:54Speaker 05

  So that was cool.

• 57:55Speaker 00

  That was. And the uniforms looked good. What, uh, where's this game they're playing the Falcons against?

• 58:00Speaker 05

  Let's see.

• 58:01Speaker 00

  It's not in America. Hank?

• 58:02Speaker 05

  8:30 in the morning, Madrid.

• 58:04Speaker 00

  Madrid. We be watching Hank?

• 58:06Speaker 05

  Of course. España. The full game?

• 58:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay.

• 58:11Speaker 03

  Always.

• 58:11Speaker 00

  How about you just do the recap?

• 58:13Speaker 05

  Sometimes you say, sometimes you openly admit that you'll watch the second half.

• 58:17Speaker 00

  You take a shower.

• 58:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'll wake up, I'll watch some mosey around the house, take a shower, come into the office. Yeah.

• 58:26Speaker 05

  I'm interested to see where, where Mike Brown has the Bengals staying while they're in Madrid. Like what kind of hotel they got put up in? Are they staying in the city?

• 58:35Speaker 00

  Probably not great.

• 58:35Speaker 05

  They're staying out in the outskirts. They're not going to get the real Hamonabirico. They're going to get like the, the fifty fifty, like pink ribbon stuff that you can get anywhere else.

• 58:44Speaker 00

  Mm hmm. Yeah, no, the, the, he might just leave it up to everyone else. He might just give him like a hundred dollar stipend and be like, figure it out.

• 58:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, it is. This is a great stadium that they're playing in next week, though. That place is awesome.

• 58:55Speaker 00

  Still don't want it there.

• 58:57Speaker 05

  Don't want it there at all.

• 58:57Speaker 00

  Still want there. Well, something just to look at, uh, Jamar Chase, when asked how the Bengals can avoid slow starts, he said, I don't know. Ask Zach. It's not my job. Ask Zach.

• 59:07Speaker 05

  Ask Zach.

• 59:08Speaker 00

  Technically right.

• 59:09Speaker 05

  First name basis, huh?

• 59:10Speaker 00

  It is Zach's job.

• 59:11Speaker 05

  Mr. Zach.

• 59:12Speaker 00

  Zach, so let's ask you. Slow start? Trouble getting out of bed?

• 59:17Speaker 03

  Look, you just can't think about the slow start. Once you get a go and you get a go.

• 59:20Speaker 00

  Do you find yourself, do you find yourself, uh, what, what's the, what's the breakdown in the Zach community? Like in terms of Z A C H, Z A C K, Z A C. You're just a Z A C. Do you look like down on the other ones or who's, who's the top of the Zach run?

• 59:39Speaker 03

  I think we're talking numbers wise. I think there's the most probably CHs because it just spelled full name, probably Zachary. So they just cut in half. The C K moms, when they give that nickname to their kids, they're just trying to be a little too creative.

• 59:53Speaker 00

  So that's just a nickname?

• 59:54Speaker 03

  Well, there's no K if, well, I guess, or is Zach?

• 59:56Speaker 05

  I do got named Zach, Z A C K.

• 59:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:59Speaker 05

  That was just like government name.

• 1:00:00Speaker 03

  Was he full name? Cause if he's full name Zachariah, and there's a K in there, it makes sense. But if your full name Zachary, I don't, I never understand where the K comes from.

• 1:00:08Speaker 00

  The alpha Zach.

• 1:00:09Speaker 03

  Uh, definitely not the Q, probably the C, H probably.

• 1:00:12Speaker 05

  Wait, the, the Q?

• 1:00:13Speaker 03

  Yeah. Have you guys seen the Q? Yeah.

• 1:00:14Speaker 00

  No, I actually would imagine that would be.

• 1:00:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's the least likely, only seen one.

• 1:00:19Speaker 05

  Okay, what about the, uh, the Z A K K?

• 1:00:23Speaker 03

  Double K?

• 1:00:23Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:00:24Speaker 03

  I get that for maybe an online username, but I've never seen that on my paper.

• 1:00:27Speaker 00

  That's something Nashville shit.

• 1:00:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, definitely some like southeast.

• 1:00:31Speaker 00

  What, uh, all right. So, so when you see, did you ever ask your mom like, hey, why no H?

• 1:00:37Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah, she told me just because it's supposed to be my initials. So just, she just, she ran the ball there. Yeah.

• 1:00:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:00:42Speaker 03

  Which that was cool.

• 1:00:43Speaker 00

  So, but you're, you're, you're not, like, if you're in a room full of Zachs, you're not looked at as like.

• 1:00:50Speaker 03

  No, I'm middle of the pack.

• 1:00:51Speaker 05

  Yeah. Is there anything about being named Zach that, that all the Zachs have in common? Like, uh, growing up, always being like last in roll call into the alphabet, end of all the lines?

• 1:01:00Speaker 03

  It's always kind of a bummer. Yeah. Like pictured A.

• 1:01:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:01:03Speaker 00

  Zach Taylor, by the way, is, uh, Zachary, but he just, he dropped the H.

• 1:01:10Speaker 03

  It's a good move.

• 1:01:10Speaker 05

  Mm hmm.

• 1:01:11Speaker 00

  So he could be an H.

• 1:01:12Speaker 05

  Yeah. So you guys all, but you all suffered together. Like you have a common bond.

• 1:01:16Speaker 03

  I think some of the, I think some of it is like Zach, pretty common name. You're put into a classroom as a young kid. There's two Zachs. We gotta have a C and an H.

• 1:01:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:01:26Speaker 00

  His full name is Zachary William Taylor. That sounds like a guy who signed the constitution.

• 1:01:29Speaker 05

  That's the president.

• 1:01:30Speaker 00

  Yeah. What the fuck?

• 1:01:33Speaker 03

  Also tough is Zachary. Not the most adult name when you, you, when you become a man.

• 1:01:36Speaker 00

  It, it is, yeah.

• 1:01:38Speaker 03

  You know?

• 1:01:39Speaker 00

  It is a little, it's a little boyish.

• 1:01:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, it stays kind of boyish.

• 1:01:44Speaker 00

  You're right. I never thought about it, but yeah, an adult, like I don't think I've ever met like a fifty year old, put together Zach.

• 1:01:52Speaker 05

  Zach.

• 1:01:52Speaker 03

  Yeah. And then you go Zachary and that still just sounds, you know?

• 1:01:56Speaker 05

  It's not, that's not the most. That sounds more boyish, I think.

• 1:01:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, it is.

• 1:02:00Speaker 05

  Than Zach.

• 1:02:00Speaker 03

  That's the only, I would say that's the biggest drawback.

• 1:02:02Speaker 00

  Do you think your name is holding you back? Like in terms of, you know, responsibility and growing up?

• 1:02:08Speaker 03

  No, I'm holding me back. It's not the name. Yeah, I can't put that on my mom. That's all me.

• 1:02:11Speaker 00

  Well, then technically it is your name holding, it's you holding.

• 1:02:13Speaker 03

  That's true. Yes.

• 1:02:14Speaker 00

  Zach is holding Zach back.

• 1:02:15Speaker 03

  Uh, yes.

• 1:02:16Speaker 00

  Okay. That was good Zach talk. Uh, all right. Next game. The biggest choke of, uh, the season, maybe Cardinals thirty-three Cowboys thirty. Gardner Minshew. We got Gardner. It actually was like the backup Avengers because the Cardinals were going through their, their usual Jacoby Brissette has a nice drive, then the offense can't do shit. Uh, Jeremiah Love got hurt. Uh, everyone was out and then it was like, hey, who do we have left? We have the backup Avengers. We're going to put in Gardner Minshew. We're going to have Tyler Algier run all over everyone.

• 1:02:55Speaker 00

  And the Cardinals come back from fourteen down in the fourth quarter to win in overtime, which they could have easily won in regulation if their kicker didn't miss an extra point. And.

• 1:03:06Speaker 05

  That made it kind of better because it was almost like the Cowboys had to go through losing twice.

• 1:03:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:03:10Speaker 05

  Cause like at the end of the game, they're like, gosh, shit, I can't believe we choked that away. And then he missed the kick and they're like, oh, all right, maybe we can win. And then boom, you lose again.

• 1:03:17Speaker 00

  Of all the, I, I mean, I feel like we have gotten to a point now. I mean, it just, Jerry Jones has like a fetish of just being humiliated on, on national television because no one loses like the Cowboys lose.

• 1:03:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:03:31Speaker 00

  They really, they really do lose better than everyone. I'm not saying like they lose more than everyone because they have won a lot of games and even with Mike McCarthy, they won a lot of games. But the way they lose is always just spectacular. They can't just normally lose.

• 1:03:47Speaker 05

  They find new ways to do it too. It's like they don't necessarily have a single style that they, that they like to follow. Although this is, this is the fifth time in a row that the Cardinals have beaten them.

• 1:03:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know. It's nine out of ten.

• 1:03:57Speaker 05

  They have their number.

• 1:03:58Speaker 00

  Think about, think about though, the Cowboys losses this year, the way they've lost. They lost week one when they, when, remember the Giants? I think they had like three possessions.

• 1:04:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:04:07Speaker 00

  Giants had the ball the whole entire time. They lost to the Ravens in that game where they couldn't have lost. Like it was impossible to lose in regulation.

• 1:04:15Speaker 05

  The fact that it was in Brazil is just like a little extra spice on it.

• 1:04:18Speaker 00

  They lost to Jalen Daniels, who maybe net will never start another game in the NFL.

• 1:04:23Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:04:23Speaker 00

  And they lost this game. I mean, they also lost to the Packers. That was more of a routine loss, but this game, which was just, they were, it was the first time they had lost at home in the history of the Cowboys with a fourteen plus lead in fourth quarter. They were two hundred and two, oh, and one. Uh, as, as a franchise in those situations. And it was Gardner Minshew and he, Gardner Minshew, Adam Rank had a great tweet. He said Gardner Minshew is like the McRib. He exists, he exists for just a limited amount of time, but while he's here, it's spectacular.

• 1:04:54Speaker 05

  Yeah. And he does come back like once a year.

• 1:04:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:56Speaker 05

  The thing about Gardner Minshew is you have to time him right. If you, it's very easy to hit the car, the Gardner Minshew button at the wrong time.

• 1:05:04Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:05:04Speaker 05

  And you feel like you should get excited about it. Like he has a chance to, to help you win a game, provide a spark. But sometimes it's not the right time and the spark just completely backfires on you.

• 1:05:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:13Speaker 05

  It's like a pit stop.

• 1:05:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:14Speaker 05

  It's like a pit stop in NASCAR. If you time it perfectly, it gives you such a nice little boost for like the next two weeks.

• 1:05:20Speaker 00

  It's the best.

• 1:05:21Speaker 05

  If you mistime it, your whole season goes to shit.

• 1:05:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. And he, uh, I mean, it's just, it was fun to see him out there. He was slinging. He threw three touchdowns, a hundred eighty-eight yards. He came in, in the fourth quarter. And this game was over. It was over. And I can't stress enough how chicken shit Brian Schottenheimer and the Cowboys were at the end of this game. They were up two times in the red zone, two times. They were up twenty-four, seventeen with four minutes left. And they were just playing for field goals. They went, uh, minus two yard run, one yard pass, incompletion, field goal. Then the Cardinals score, it's twenty-seven, twenty-four, and they have to, oh, Tanner McKee just threw an interception.

• 1:06:06Speaker 05

  Love that.

• 1:06:06Speaker 00

  And.

• 1:06:07Speaker 05

  Get out of.

• 1:06:07Speaker 00

  Why didn't you keep running? Why didn't he keep running?

• 1:06:10Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 1:06:11Speaker 00

  Why didn't he just get out of bounds?

• 1:06:12Speaker 03

  They just want the game.

• 1:06:13Speaker 05

  I don't understand anything about this football team. Yeah, I don't know.

• 1:06:17Speaker 03

  The game's over.

• 1:06:18Speaker 05

  They might as well, they might as well have a cow.

• 1:06:20Speaker 03

  You're only saying that because you have the O.

• 1:06:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know, but he did just run out of bounds.

• 1:06:24Speaker 03

  It doesn't matter.

• 1:06:25Speaker 05

  No, he's right. It doesn't make, it doesn't make sense. Most, most, most cornerbacks, when they have an interception like that.

• 1:06:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:06:31Speaker 05

  On a primetime game.

• 1:06:32Speaker 00

  And they have a ton of room to run.

• 1:06:34Speaker 05

  Saying your name.

• 1:06:35Speaker 03

  There wasn't like that much room to run.

• 1:06:38Speaker 05

  You, Max, he went out of bounds.

• 1:06:40Speaker 00

  There was no reason to go out of bounds. It wasn't like there was one second left.

• 1:06:43Speaker 03

  It just doesn't matter. The game's over.

• 1:06:44Speaker 00

  What you're saying, but I don't, I, that was a weird thing to see happen.

• 1:06:48Speaker 05

  That was Russell Dunn.

• 1:06:49Speaker 03

  I don't think it was, whatever.

• 1:06:51Speaker 00

  It was weird.

• 1:06:52Speaker 05

  It was weird. I agree. It was weird. He, he could, most guys try to score touchdowns on that. Yeah.

• 1:06:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, they just keep running. He's still running.

• 1:06:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, but here comes Jaden.

• 1:06:59Speaker 00

  Uh, okay. So up, up twenty-four, seventeen, they do the, the run, run short or pass. They're basically playing field goals. Then they get the, oh, is he going to run for a touchdown?

• 1:07:11Speaker 05

  Rashad White is going to go down.

• 1:07:13Speaker 00

  Go, go down culture.

• 1:07:14Speaker 05

  Go down. Yep.

• 1:07:15Speaker 00

  Go down culture at its finest.

• 1:07:16Speaker 05

  Shout out DJ Khaled.

• 1:07:18Speaker 00

  Uh, and then they got, they get the onside kick and they, they're back in the red zone. It's twenty-seven, twenty-four. There's, there's their first and ten at the twenty. Score a touchdown. The game is over. You're up two scores. They go zero yard run, sack, three yard run. I don't get it. They played to, to, they, they just played like chicken shit football down the stretch. They deserve to lose. And Gardner Minshew, credit to him, he went eighty yards, a hundred and, uh, eighty yards in a minute and three seconds.

• 1:07:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:07:47Speaker 00

  To, to tie the game. The Cowboys deserve this. Brian Schottenheimer is not a head coach. It's crazy.

• 1:07:52Speaker 05

  And they, they asked Jerry Jones about it after the game and he said that he's not planning on making any moves right now. Uh, apparently what really stuck with him for a long time was when he fired Wade Phillips.

• 1:08:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, no.

• 1:08:02Speaker 05

  Season. He, he still goes back to, he's like, that's why I won't fire a coach mid-season anymore.

• 1:08:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:06Speaker 05

  Uh, but I think most Cowboys fans probably, if you asked them like point blank, they kind of miss Mike McCarthy.

• 1:08:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, he said, Jerry said specifically, uh, cause he was trying to be nice and not like drag Wade Phillips and like mention.

• 1:08:19Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:08:20Speaker 00

  He fired Wade Phillips. He said, I made a change and I don't want to mention it because I'm not proud of it. But I made a change with Wade Phillips there in the middle of the season. I don't see that here at all.

• 1:08:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't want to mention his name, but Wade Phillips was a mistake. That was a mistake. Uh, yeah. So the, the, as we mentioned, the Cardinals have beaten them five games in a row now. Uh, and the comeback that they had since two thousand, the Cardinals were one, one forty-seven and one when trailing by fourteen points or more in the fourth quarter. And you combine that with the Cowboys being sixty-nine and oh, when leading by fourteen plus points in the fourth quarter at home, uh, entering today.

• 1:08:55Speaker 00

  Well, no, two hundred and two and oh, as a franchise.

• 1:08:57Speaker 05

  As a franchise.

• 1:08:58Speaker 00

  Leading by, by fourteen points in the fourth quarter.

• 1:09:02Speaker 05

  So you combine that, one, a hundred forty-seven and one for the Cardinals. Uh, it was just an all time choke job. And the Cowboys defense is so bad. The Cowboys have allowed twenty or more points in fifteen games, fifteen games in a row. That's the longest active streak in the league right now.

• 1:09:18Speaker 00

  See.

• 1:09:19Speaker 05

  What's up?

• 1:09:20Speaker 00

  You want to talk about your boy?

• 1:09:23Speaker 05

  Which guy?

• 1:09:24Speaker 00

  Caleb Downs?

• 1:09:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, in a little bit. So they've allowed 20, they've allowed 20 more points in 15 straight games. It's the longest in the NFL right now. The last team to have a streak that was that long was the Jaguars in 2019 through 2021. And that Jaguars team was so bad that they had the number one overall pick back to back years. That's how bad that team was and the Cowboys are just as bad. Caleb Downs, bad game today. He got dribbled. Look, on this, on this block, who's that big boy in space there? 72? Uh, just, I mean, it technically is a double dribble.

• 1:09:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, we are big guys said Frohold was literally dribbling Caleb Downs.

• 1:10:00Speaker 05

  It's awesome. Just shoves him over twice and then McBride.

• 1:10:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:05Speaker 05

  Talking shit to him, be like, dude, you were a first round pick?

• 1:10:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:08Speaker 05

  You suck.

• 1:10:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:09Speaker 05

  I love that.

• 1:10:09Speaker 00

  He broke him off on a route. He's like, you're a first round pick. You're a first round pick. Uh, not a great day for him. Yeah. I mean, the Cowboys are bad, but this, even for how bad the Cowboys are, this was just, you don't lose, you shouldn't lose games when you're up 14 in the fourth quarter and they're going to Gardner Minshew as the rescue option.

• 1:10:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, but that's what Gardner does sometimes.

• 1:10:31Speaker 00

  No, he does. You're right.

• 1:10:32Speaker 05

  Gardner has that ability in him.

• 1:10:33Speaker 00

  He's special. Now, who do the Cowboys have next? Do they, the fact that, the fact that the NFC East is such a shit show.

• 1:10:44Speaker 05

  You know what? I have a take about that.

• 1:10:47Speaker 00

  The Giants are good?

• 1:10:48Speaker 05

  We're kind of, we're kind of being disrespectful to the Giants.

• 1:10:50Speaker 00

  I think the Giants are good. I just.

• 1:10:53Speaker 05

  I'm saying this as a commanders fan, like the talk of the commanders still being in it because they, they win this game. Um, and they're now going to be two, four and one is very disrespectful to the Giants because the Giants, I think are a good team and they're a fun team. I think they're good. Nine is playing out of his mind right now.

• 1:11:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, I, they have not beaten anyone. I mean, the Texans win, actually, I should give them credit for that.

• 1:11:17Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:11:18Speaker 00

  But if you want to go by the Texans' current form, they've beaten the Cowboys who have two wins, the Titans who have one win, the Cardinals who now have three because they just beat the Cowboys and the Texans who have two wins.

• 1:11:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:11:32Speaker 00

  So someone's got to win it. I do, I mean, I do think they're the best NFC East team.

• 1:11:37Speaker 05

  I think that if the records were similar right now, then yeah, it would be easy to say that, but they're, they are what? Two games ahead of the commanders right now? Game and a half ahead?

• 1:11:48Speaker 00

  Well, the Cowboys are ahead of you.

• 1:11:51Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:11:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. The Cowboys are still in second place.

• 1:11:54Speaker 05

  Right. I was saying they're what? A game and a half ahead of the Cowboys?

• 1:11:57Speaker 00

  The, the, the Giants?

• 1:12:00Speaker 05

  Let's see what the standings.

• 1:12:00Speaker 00

  The Cowboys have five losses.

• 1:12:02Speaker 05

  The tie really fucks me up.

• 1:12:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:12:06Speaker 00

  I mean, it's just, it's just a, yeah, the Giants are definitely better than, uh, everyone else in the NFC. So yeah, I'll, I'll stop, I'll stop, I'll stop shitting on the Giants. I'm not even shitting on them. It's more just like the rest of the NFC East is just so bad.

• 1:12:21Speaker 05

  Pretty bad.

• 1:12:22Speaker 00

  This game is over. Max?

• 1:12:25Speaker 07

  This is not, this is not a football team. This is not a real football team.

• 1:12:29Speaker 00

  It's not a football team?

• 1:12:31Speaker 07

  Tanner McKee.

• 1:12:32Speaker 00

  Is not a football player?

• 1:12:34Speaker 07

  I don't think he threw it over five yards in the second half. Every single play was just, uh, I'm shitting my pants. I'm shitting my pants. Check down to the running back.

• 1:12:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. He's a true backup quarterback.

• 1:12:45Speaker 07

  I don't even think he's that.

• 1:12:47Speaker 00

  Well, no. Yeah, I guess you're right. He's not even that. Should we call Pug?

• 1:12:52Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah. Call Pug.

• 1:12:54Speaker 00

  I mean, he's got to answer for this.

• 1:12:58Speaker 00

  I'm calling Pug. So PFT, you're clearly with, with you saying that.

• 1:13:19Speaker 07

  Maybe he went to bed.

• 1:13:21Speaker 05

  He gave up on him. Well, when you've lost Pug.

• 1:13:26Speaker 00

  PFT, I have a question for you.

• 1:13:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:13:28Speaker 00

  Are you still thinking the commanders are going to win the NFC East? I feel like you might be.

• 1:13:31Speaker 05

  No, I know. No, because I just, I just said the Giants, the Giants are.

• 1:13:36Speaker 00

  But you made a little Freudian slip where you're like, the commanders are only a game or like two games back when the Cowboys are still in second place.

• 1:13:42Speaker 05

  No, I was, I was literally saying the commanders are two games back and the Cowboys are a game and a half back. So that, why it's disrespectful to the Giants right now. To have everybody talking about the other teams in the division besides them.

• 1:13:55Speaker 00

  But what if you just went, oh, Pugs calling me back?

• 1:13:59Speaker 00

  Pug?

• 1:14:01Speaker 06

  Whole team's broken.

• 1:14:03Speaker 00

  Okay, but what about Tanner McKee?

• 1:14:06Speaker 06

  Well, he, he let him on a drive. If we hit that field goal, he has a drive against 13, 19 and he has a chance to go down and maybe, maybe win it.

• 1:14:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:14:18Speaker 06

  We just never got that chance.

• 1:14:20Speaker 00

  Never got that chance. That chance never came.

• 1:14:22Speaker 05

  He needs more time.

• 1:14:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:14:24Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:14:28Speaker 06

  Our offensive line just got fucking killed. They got no chance.

• 1:14:32Speaker 00

  You sound distressed.

• 1:14:34Speaker 06

  The team's broken. Everyone's broken.

• 1:14:37Speaker 00

  Season from hell.

• 1:14:39Speaker 06

  Yeah, you know, it's, teams have down years. That's part of football.

• 1:14:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I'm more worried about your Tanner McKee because you loved him.

• 1:14:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, you know, it's, I still, in the right system, healthy on.

• 1:14:54Speaker 06

  I promise you, he can fucking sling it. And everything has to be cohesive. It's not cohesive right now.

• 1:15:01Speaker 05

  Pug, is it Bazooka Joe's time?

• 1:15:05Speaker 06

  They can do whatever they want. It's, it's, it's fucked. It's over.

• 1:15:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. Well, we love you, Pug.

• 1:15:14Speaker 06

  Love you guys too.

• 1:15:14Speaker 05

  All right.

• 1:15:15Speaker 00

  Bye, Pugs.

• 1:15:15Speaker 06

  There's still a beast. See you.

• 1:15:18Speaker 05

  Bye.

• 1:15:19Speaker 07

  Tanner fucking sucks.

• 1:15:21Speaker 00

  PFT, you could still win the East. Tell them, Max.

• 1:15:23Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:15:24Speaker 00

  Why not?

• 1:15:24Speaker 05

  This team stinks.

• 1:15:25Speaker 07

  No, I'm not telling you that.

• 1:15:26Speaker 05

  This team stinks. Even when we do good shit, it backfires on us. There's some guy.

• 1:15:31Speaker 00

  If you just won that game against the Giants.

• 1:15:33Speaker 05

  Illegally in motion.

• 1:15:34Speaker 00

  So different.

• 1:15:36Speaker 05

  Chason had a great game, but for some reason he's just addicted to like shoving a guy, shoving the quarterback when he thinks the refs aren't looking. I don't trust Dan Quinn. The hat got turned backwards. He flip flopped on the hat. You can't flip flop on a hat.

• 1:15:49Speaker 00

  You got some games you could win coming up if you beat the Giants.

• 1:15:52Speaker 05

  I do like fro five. I like, I like, uh, Jaden with the fro. It's good luck.

• 1:15:58Speaker 00

  Oh, Jeffrey Lurie, that, that is an ominous. Remember that stat about firing coaches?

• 1:16:03Speaker 05

  I do like that Jeffrey Lurie, uh, inducted himself into the ring of honor. That's a good move.

• 1:16:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, by the way, still Michael Bidwell. Fuck you, dude. You're a loser. We don't like you.

• 1:16:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:16:17Speaker 00

  Cardinals owner.

• 1:16:19Speaker 05

  So after, after the game, when they talked to Jerry Jones, he did say, this is a great quote from, from Jerry. Classic quote. Uh, I'm not pointing at shoddy. I'm not pointing at anybody.

• 1:16:30Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 1:16:31Speaker 05

  So he like, he went out of his way to say, that guy right there, I'm not going to, I'm not going to say it's Schottenheimer's fault.

• 1:16:36Speaker 00

  Everyone's thinking that I'm going to point at this guy.

• 1:16:38Speaker 05

  But I'm not going to say that it's shoddy's fault because who knows? It might not be shoddy's fault.

• 1:16:43Speaker 00

  Sounds like it's not shoddy's fault.

• 1:16:45Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:16:45Speaker 00

  But it definitely is. I mean, I could not believe the way that they played down. They, they, they just, they didn't respect Gardner Minshew is what they didn't do, what they did. Just play like you have an offense that is supposed to be an elite offense. You're in field goal range. You're, you're in the red zone. Just score a touchdown to end the game. They score a touchdown at either of those spots. They take one shot to the end zone. Like also George Pickens still is the best ever because he had one of the funniest plays, uh, where he was, was down, the most down you could ever be after catching the ball, popped up, ran to the end zone, did a full celebration. Not only was he down, but there was also a flag, a hold on the Cowboys that came all the way back. So it was like doubly not a

• 1:17:28Speaker 00

  touchdown. Uh, but very, very funny from, from George Pickens. He's the best. I love him so much. Whatever he does that shit. Uh, okay. Next game. Actually, let's do a couple ads and then we'll get to the next game Raiders Jets. You ready memes?

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• 1:19:27Speaker 00

  Okay, Raiders 38, Jets 33 memes.

• 1:19:32Speaker 02

  Uh, so I don't really know where to start with this game, other than the fact that today was a really good day for the Jets.

• 1:19:38Speaker 00

  Go on.

• 1:19:39Speaker 02

  Uh, Colts lost, Cowboys lost, and the Jets lost.

• 1:19:43Speaker 00

  The Jets lost.

• 1:19:44Speaker 02

  So where, yeah.

• 1:19:45Speaker 00

  Take a ton.

• 1:19:47Speaker 02

  I believe we have three top 10 picks.

• 1:19:49Speaker 00

  This also was, I'll say it, very entertaining game.

• 1:19:52Speaker 05

  Great game.

• 1:19:52Speaker 02

  Very entertaining game. The offense is not the problem.

• 1:19:55Speaker 00

  All right. So the Jets right now have the fourth pick, the sixth pick, and the 10th pick. Woo. That's pretty nice.

• 1:20:03Speaker 05

  Arsenal.

• 1:20:04Speaker 02

  It was a good day in the fact that you have three top 10 picks and you've clearly identified what the problems are.

• 1:20:09Speaker 00

  Which are?

• 1:20:10Speaker 02

  Defense.

• 1:20:11Speaker 00

  Bad.

• 1:20:12Speaker 02

  They got, they got nobody on defense. But at the same time, they're all Aaron Glenn's handpicked guys.

• 1:20:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:20:18Speaker 02

  And like.

• 1:20:19Speaker 05

  And he's a defensive coach.

• 1:20:20Speaker 02

  And he's the defensive coach.

• 1:20:21Speaker 00

  Kirk Cousins tore you up.

• 1:20:25Speaker 02

  And everybody tears us up.

• 1:20:26Speaker 00

  Yeah. And it was to, they just, the Raiders have just built the entire plane out of tight ends. He threw to, he threw to four guys. Michael Mayer, Brock Bowers, Ashton Gentry, and uh, who was the other one who got, who uh?

• 1:20:43Speaker 02

  Naylor.

• 1:20:43Speaker 00

  Uh, Naylor. That was it. Four guys. Four guys caught passes.

• 1:20:47Speaker 02

  Yeah. Back to back weeks, the Jets lost to a team that didn't have wide receivers.

• 1:20:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. One wide receiver that caught, caught passes. Then the other two were, the other three were just tight ends and running back.

• 1:21:00Speaker 05

  What do you think about Kirk Cousins doing a little celebration? That weird little dance that he did.

• 1:21:07Speaker 02

  I mean, it's fine.

• 1:21:08Speaker 05

  He called it his wellness dance. I don't know what, what that means. But he said that uh, he'd been telling the guys he was going to do a wellness dance. Hmm. If he scored a touchdown. And then uh, it looked like he was grinding pepper or something. I don't, I didn't really understand it.

• 1:21:22Speaker 02

  He's like doing the stanky elbow.

• 1:21:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, the stinky elbow. Yeah. He said, they, they asked him about it after uh, uh, his touchdown third quarter. He said, we do a lot of tissue work here. At my age, it's especially helpful. That was his explanation of what the dance move was. So I have no idea what the fuck Kirk Cousins was doing. He just started talking about his tissues.

• 1:21:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, it was, it was a fine dance.

• 1:21:47Speaker 00

  Uh, Braylon Allen's good.

• 1:21:49Speaker 02

  Braylon Allen's good. A.D. Mitchell's good.

• 1:21:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:52Speaker 02

  Wilson's good.

• 1:21:52Speaker 00

  Your offense is good.

• 1:21:54Speaker 02

  Off, offense is good. Offense is fun.

• 1:21:55Speaker 00

  You gotta finish drives.

• 1:21:56Speaker 02

  You gotta, they're terrible on short yardage.

• 1:21:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:59Speaker 02

  If they, if they could finish in short yardage, they'd be a top five scoring offensively.

• 1:22:02Speaker 00

  The first six drives for the Jets in this game got to the Raiders red zone. Like they went to the red zone every single time and then they got three field goals, three touchdowns. If any of those are a touchdown, it changes the course of the game.

• 1:22:17Speaker 00

  It's just, the defense is so bad.

• 1:22:19Speaker 02

  It's brutal and they got called out by Ashton Gentry.

• 1:22:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, which, by the way, he was right. No, but he was right.

• 1:22:26Speaker 02

  He, he was right.

• 1:22:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. He said that, he said, uh, it's a get right game for the running game. He said, guys that don't want to tackle. And Mike Washington went for 83 yards.

• 1:22:35Speaker 02

  Yeah. You can't say we're going to get right and then get right.

• 1:22:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, also you can't say you're going to get right and then uh, get two carries, which Ashton Gentry also did. He was effectively benched.

• 1:22:47Speaker 02

  They shut him down.

• 1:22:48Speaker 00

  He's, he's, he called a get right game and then got benched.

• 1:22:53Speaker 02

  He did have the one big play.

• 1:22:54Speaker 00

  He did have a, uh, yeah, he caught, he caught the ball well, but he got two carries. And he'd said, he said that coach was like, hey, we're, you're not going to be like the featured back right now. And it's not great for Ashton Gentry, the fact that he, Mike Washington looked pretty good with the same offensive line. But I guess it was a get right game. So Ashton Gentry missed out on his get right game.

• 1:23:18Speaker 00

  But yeah, that's a, that's a weird thing to call out being like, yeah, they have guys that don't tackle and then again, be basically benched and, and made RB2.

• 1:23:27Speaker 05

  Yeah. Um, and also the get right game wasn't even that great for Mike Washington.

• 1:23:31Speaker 00

  Well, it was because he's a backup running back.

• 1:23:33Speaker 05

  It was good for him.

• 1:23:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:23:34Speaker 05

  But it's not like they, they ran all over the Jets. Uh, what do you think about Gino's play today memes? Are you still thinking that Gino is looking for stats?

• 1:23:42Speaker 02

  No, he played, he played, he played well.

• 1:23:44Speaker 05

  Cause I thought he looked okay today.

• 1:23:46Speaker 02

  Yeah. He, he was slinging it. He, he was definitely looking to get some, get back.

• 1:23:51Speaker 05

  And then is Mason Taylor okay?

• 1:23:53Speaker 02

  He hurt his lower back.

• 1:23:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, it looked bad. It looked bad. But I will say credit to Mason Taylor. Uh, he lands on his back and then knows that there's going to be a 10 second runoff. If they have to use like a, an official timeout to get him off the field. So he somehow like rolled off the field to get treatment in order to give a little bit more time on the clock to try to win the game. That was, that was a gutsy, not going to show up in the stat sheet. That's a gutsy play by Mason Taylor.

• 1:24:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, real gutsy. I wish the, there was a point, like if there's a point in your season, you know, the season's over, you should just end it. Like today, I want the season to just be over.

• 1:24:33Speaker 00

  Shaking his head, yes.

• 1:24:34Speaker 07

  I would love for this season.

• 1:24:35Speaker 02

  Cause you, everybody could just rest up. You know what you have. You know what's bad.

• 1:24:39Speaker 00

  It would be.

• 1:24:39Speaker 02

  Let's just move on.

• 1:24:41Speaker 00

  Maybe, maybe the NFL has to move to like the uh, the eliminator, like survivor eliminator.

• 1:24:47Speaker 07

  Guillotine.

• 1:24:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, guillotine rules.

• 1:24:49Speaker 05

  Tap out.

• 1:24:49Speaker 00

  After week eight, you can tap out until you have like three teams left.

• 1:24:55Speaker 07

  Just, just be done.

• 1:24:57Speaker 05

  No, I like.

• 1:24:58Speaker 07

  No, no.

• 1:24:59Speaker 05

  I like what memes is saying. I think memes is right. Memes should be allowed to tap out. But teams like the Eagles, if you're, if you have a good team or like the Chiefs last year, you should be forced to watch.

• 1:25:10Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:25:10Speaker 05

  Yeah. You should be forced to watch your team be bad.

• 1:25:16Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 1:25:16Speaker 02

  I know what he's saying.

• 1:25:17Speaker 05

  Yeah. You know what I'm saying memes?

• 1:25:18Speaker 02

  I know what he's saying.

• 1:25:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:25:19Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:25:19Speaker 00

  If you won a Super Bowl recently, yeah.

• 1:25:22Speaker 05

  Yeah. You should, you should have to experience it.

• 1:25:25Speaker 00

  It's like Ohio State fans, like they lost.

• 1:25:27Speaker 07

  You love injuries. You love injuries. You root for injuries.

• 1:25:30Speaker 05

  What?

• 1:25:30Speaker 07

  That's basically what you're saying. You're, you're happy that the Eagles are this bad and Eagles fans have to watch a bad team this bad.

• 1:25:36Speaker 05

  No, I'm saying, no, I'm saying if you do have a bad team and you have historically a really good team, you should, you should have to tap in, gain a little empathy for how, how the rest of us have to live every year.

• 1:25:47Speaker 00

  It's, it's, it's like Ohio State fans freaking out because this was uh, the first time in 15 years, they took their second loss uh, before November 1st.

• 1:25:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:25:57Speaker 00

  And they're all just having a like meltdown. It's like, dude.

• 1:25:59Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:26:00Speaker 00

  Welcome to how the rest of us live.

• 1:26:02Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:26:03Speaker 00

  It ain't fun.

• 1:26:04Speaker 05

  Nope. Got to go through it sometimes though. Can't fast forward life. That's what I always say.

• 1:26:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, memes, I, I'm with you on the rule.

• 1:26:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. And the other way, this was also a good loss. Supposedly there was some murmuring that if the Jets would have won, this would have gave Woody Johnson confidence in Aaron Glenn to just give him a, give him an excuse to keep him around for next year.

• 1:26:29Speaker 00

  Oh, so he's fired.

• 1:26:30Speaker 05

  This was a murmur game.

• 1:26:32Speaker 02

  Well, no, he has a five-year contract and he has three years left. So Woody Johnson's looking for an excuse to keep him around.

• 1:26:38Speaker 00

  Oh, so it's not a fired game, but it's a step in the firing direction game.

• 1:26:44Speaker 02

  This is essentially just like every single fan's done with them. And it's like, you better fire him at the end of the year.

• 1:26:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay.

• 1:26:51Speaker 02

  I mean, it was, it was an away game today. The Jets were driving on their final drive and there was a defense chance.

• 1:26:56Speaker 00

  Oof, that's bad with the Raiders.

• 1:26:58Speaker 05

  That's not good.

• 1:26:59Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:26:59Speaker 05

  How did the uh, last two minutes of the first half go?

• 1:27:04Speaker 02

  Got three points. Outscored them 3-0.

• 1:27:06Speaker 05

  There you go. All right. Don't let, what'd he find out?

• 1:27:09Speaker 00

  I will say this about the Raiders. Uh, they're not good, but they're a fun not good. Because they, they give up a ton of points and they can score points. Like they're a fun, not good team. That's a, every team that's bad should have to have a good offense and a, and a bad defense. That's how you build a, a fun watch. What, Max? Why are you shaking your head?

• 1:27:32Speaker 07

  Just thinking about, I'm, that, that wasn't meant for you. That was more internally in my head.

• 1:27:39Speaker 05

  My team is just not a fun watch.

• 1:27:40Speaker 00

  No, you guys are the opposite. You're like, your defense isn't so, so bad and your offense is so, so bad.

• 1:27:47Speaker 05

  Right. Like the Chargers, not a fun watch.

• 1:27:50Speaker 00

  No, terrible watch.

• 1:27:51Speaker 05

  Bummer watch.

• 1:27:52Speaker 00

  Terrible, terrible.

• 1:27:53Speaker 05

  Raiders.

• 1:27:54Speaker 00

  Raiders, Jets are kind of in the fun watch territory.

• 1:27:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, they're, they're fun. And I mean, the defense is fun. I've always wondered what like this kind of game would look like.

• 1:28:05Speaker 02

  The last time they scored more than thirty points.

• 1:28:08Speaker 05

  It was wild. I also think that the Titans might be transitioning from not fun watch to fun watch.

• 1:28:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, they could.

• 1:28:17Speaker 05

  It also might just be that they played against the Bengals.

• 1:28:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent. But they've been fun.

• 1:28:22Speaker 05

  I'm hoping that that's, that's the direction they're going.

• 1:28:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're bad, the bad, the health of the league would be a lot better if the bad teams were still fun watching.

• 1:28:30Speaker 05

  Right. I was saying today that it's, it does seem like there's a lot of, um, a lot of the bad teams, not all of them, but a lot of the bad teams are still, like they'll still put points on the board.

• 1:28:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:28:39Speaker 05

  And, and there'll be some fireworks. You can look at the Cardinals like that. You can look at the Raiders like that. It makes Sunday a little bit better.

• 1:28:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 1:28:47Speaker 02

  Also, the Jets aren't winning a game for the rest of the year.

• 1:28:49Speaker 00

  Wait.

• 1:28:50Speaker 05

  That's not true.

• 1:28:51Speaker 00

  Stop it.

• 1:28:51Speaker 05

  That's not true.

• 1:28:53Speaker 00

  Okay, hold on. Are you really? Cause I think I saw.

• 1:28:57Speaker 02

  They got the Chargers.

• 1:28:58Speaker 05

  At the Chiefs.

• 1:29:00Speaker 00

  Alright, so they're gonna beat the Chargers.

• 1:29:02Speaker 05

  At the Chargers, there you go. At the Dolphins. You guys could beat the Dolphins.

• 1:29:06Speaker 00

  Alright, Chiefs next week, Bills, Chargers, Dolphins, Broncos, Cart, Cardinals could.

• 1:29:13Speaker 02

  Scrappy.

• 1:29:14Speaker 00

  Patriots, Vikings, Bills. Okay, so yeah, there's.

• 1:29:17Speaker 05

  You got three chances.

• 1:29:19Speaker 00

  Two and a half chances.

• 1:29:21Speaker 02

  Two and a half chances.

• 1:29:22Speaker 00

  Two and a half chances feels right. Give you a half a chance to get the Cardinals, but you. Might throw in a win somewhere.

• 1:29:29Speaker 05

  But memes, the, the Colts, they might not win a game.

• 1:29:33Speaker 00

  But goddamn memes. I, I'll, I'll say too, like, not only, uh, obviously it sucks. But big picture, this is like, gotta be one of the most fun bad teams because you not only have good, young offensive weapons. Siddiq, Braylon Allen, Eddie Mitchell, Garrett Wilson, all that, but you also have three picks. So you have like.

• 1:29:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is, this was a phenomenal day.

• 1:30:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, like this is, this is, if, if you're, if you're gonna be bad, you, you are, you're doing bad in style.

• 1:30:08Speaker 00

  Do you know what I mean?

• 1:30:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, if they didn't have those two other picks.

• 1:30:10Speaker 00

  Like imagine being the Colts right now. The Colts don't have their first round pick and they are just dog shitting in hell. You guys are doing it in style. You guys are like, yeah, you're, you're like putting on a tux and being bad in style.

• 1:30:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's fun. It's a lot of fun. Never thought I'd, we'd be here, but it's fun.

• 1:30:33Speaker 05

  Have you given any more thought to who you want in the draft?

• 1:30:37Speaker 02

  Quarterback, all defense.

• 1:30:39Speaker 05

  What quarterback?

• 1:30:40Speaker 02

  Messa Maker.

• 1:30:41Speaker 05

  Zesty for Messy.

• 1:30:42Speaker 02

  Yep. Or CJ Carr. But I've officially made my stance on Messy.

• 1:30:48Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:30:49Speaker 02

  Even though I think he's gonna go to the Chargers.

• 1:30:51Speaker 05

  Hank, what are your thoughts on the Jets?

• 1:30:53Speaker 03

  The Jets, they're the Jets. Jets are the Jets.

• 1:30:55Speaker 00

  Are you a little worried they have three picks?

• 1:30:56Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:30:57Speaker 05

  In the top ten though, three picks.

• 1:30:58Speaker 03

  They've had plenty. How many top ten picks have they had the last twenty years?

• 1:31:01Speaker 05

  Not ever three at the same time.

• 1:31:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:31:03Speaker 03

  Doesn't matter.

• 1:31:04Speaker 00

  They could just.

• 1:31:04Speaker 05

  I don't think any teams ever.

• 1:31:05Speaker 00

  They could take Mensa, Messa Maker and CJ Carr and just see which one is good.

• 1:31:11Speaker 05

  Honestly, not a bad strategy.

• 1:31:14Speaker 03

  I mean, they'll trade at least one of them. Teams have had two draft picks in the top ten before.

• 1:31:20Speaker 02

  Bears.

• 1:31:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:31:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:31:22Speaker 00

  Roman Caleb.

• 1:31:25Speaker 00

  Worked out.

• 1:31:26Speaker 05

  Three is so many though.

• 1:31:28Speaker 02

  It's one more than two.

• 1:31:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:31:30Speaker 05

  Thirty-three percent more.

• 1:31:31Speaker 00

  It's one less than four.

• 1:31:33Speaker 05

  Fifty percent more.

• 1:31:34Speaker 02

  Some would say the perfect amount.

• 1:31:35Speaker 05

  I don't know how percents work. I just found out that it's out of a hundred.

• 1:31:38Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Alright, uh, next up, Bucks sixteen, Falcons zero. Watch out for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Zach, I get, I walked back my, so last Monday I said that, and I do believe this. They have the, the most reliable unit in the NFC South. I think their defense is the best unit in the NFC South. What gave me hesitation was Todd Bowles' existence as a person, but I gotta say, two weeks in a row, credit to Todd Bowles. This game, you can, you could not pass in this game. The Bucks said, hey, we can't pass in this game. We're not gonna pass in this game. The Falcons said, hey, we're gonna try to pass in this game and Michael Pennix is gonna throw four picks and have,

• 1:32:20Speaker 00

  Baker Mayfield had a better QB rating than Michael Pennix. Baker Mayfield went over three for zero yards.

• 1:32:26Speaker 03

  I understand your hesitation the last couple of days. It was a dominant wind.

• 1:32:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, you guys are back.

• 1:32:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, showed up to a divisional game, goose egg them, and the defense said, give me that four times.

• 1:32:36Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm, yeah.

• 1:32:36Speaker 03

  What more can you ask for?

• 1:32:37Speaker 05

  It was, it was a very, very smart game plan and you didn't, I feel like the Bucks probably adapted on the fly. Once they saw how bad it was and how effective the running game was, they made a smart decision, which is, no, we're just not going to try to pass.

• 1:32:51Speaker 00

  And Bucky Irving was a beast.

• 1:32:52Speaker 05

  Bucky Irving was great. Uh, the defense, really, really good, Zach. You guys have, yeah, you've got an identity. Now it would be helpful if part of that identity was involving the quarterback position a little bit.

• 1:33:04Speaker 03

  Certainly, but I must look at it as another week for the thumb to heal.

• 1:33:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:33:08Speaker 03

  If we can't throw it as much as you would like to, establish a run, uh, the, the elements coming out was nice because I mean, the Falcons playing side. Said, no, look, we'll get a little wet. Nothing with that, nothing wrong with that.

• 1:33:18Speaker 05

  It was the highest run rate since, uh, that Monday night football game that we went to in Buffalo, where it was so windy. Dope.

• 1:33:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, and now, look, the Buck, I mean, is anyone joining me on Buck Island? Are we still thinking Falcons? Are we still thinking Panthers? I think the Buck, I know the Bucks have a couple tough, they come to Chicago next Sunday. And then at Detroit, but then they have a little stretch where it's, you know, depending on who's playing for the Ravens, they have Carolina at home, Chargers at home, Ravens, Saints, like, I, I think the Bucks, if they can go one and one in the next two, like this isn't, the offensive line is elite and the defense is very good.

• 1:33:58Speaker 03

  I'm a resident on the island. All is welcome.

• 1:34:01Speaker 00

  Do you, PFT?

• 1:34:02Speaker 05

  Well, I'm concerned about the island because it's hard to get to the stadium. Like it's tough to get to games on time from the island.

• 1:34:08Speaker 00

  No, that's the trap.

• 1:34:09Speaker 05

  Okay. The trap's landlocked.

• 1:34:12Speaker 00

  Is a different.

• 1:34:13Speaker 03

  The trap's like peninsula though, too.

• 1:34:14Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:34:15Speaker 03

  Three sides of water.

• 1:34:16Speaker 05

  I'm, I'm still, I'm, I'm Buck curious right now.

• 1:34:19Speaker 00

  Are you staying with the Falcons?

• 1:34:20Speaker 05

  Falcons are still, that's my main bitch.

• 1:34:21Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:34:22Speaker 05

  Um, if this game was played, I, I, I can't remember the last time the Atlanta Falcons won a game in the rain. They just seem like a team that's never, one, probably never played in the rain before. Two, I've never seen the Falcons win in any sort of precipitation.

• 1:34:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, I.

• 1:34:36Speaker 05

  They are a dome franchise.

• 1:34:38Speaker 00

  I don't know what the plan was today with the Fa, I mean, like, Michael Pennix, he threw four picks and he looked so bad. And yes, it was a lot of the weather, but why, why even, why even test the weather?

• 1:34:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, I actually think two would have been better today, just because they wouldn't have tried to throw it.

• 1:34:55Speaker 00

  Cooper Rush.

• 1:34:56Speaker 05

  Cooper Rush would have been better today.

• 1:34:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was, I, Todd Bowles, great game plan. Bucky Irving was awesome.

• 1:35:02Speaker 03

  I also don't think we can blame all four picks on the weather. The, the defense played fantastic.

• 1:35:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. No, I agree. No, and Kenny Gainwell was awesome. I mean, they ran the ball down their throat. They just didn't, they, it's crazy to watch a game and be like, this team is not going to pass. We were looking at it in the third quarter, Baker's completions over under was three and a half.

• 1:35:22Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:35:22Speaker 00

  And like, everyone knows we're not gonna pass and there's nothing you can do about it. It was like old school, almost like a service academy, just being like, we're gonna run it down your throat.

• 1:35:33Speaker 03

  I believe it was three attempts for the entire game.

• 1:35:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:35:35Speaker 05

  Yep, so they're the first team to win by double digits without completing a pass since the nineteen forty-five Pittsburgh Steelers beat the Chicago Cardinals, twenty-three to zero in week eight. I looked up that, uh, that Steelers team in nineteen forty-five. On the season, you saw this?

• 1:35:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:35:54Speaker 05

  On the season, their total for pass, pass attempts and completions, there were sixty-one of a hundred sixty-five on the year. For six hundred fifty-two yards passing on the year, zero touchdown passes and twenty-one interceptions. That's the hell of a stat line right there.

• 1:36:09Speaker 00

  I also.

• 1:36:10Speaker 05

  They finished two and eight.

• 1:36:11Speaker 00

  So the game that you refer, you're referring to, uh, Bill Dudley went oh for six and Bus Warren went oh for two. And I was like, that's a weird name, Bus Warren. His real name was Buist Lamb Warren. B U I S T. I didn't even know that was a name.

• 1:36:29Speaker 05

  Buist?

• 1:36:30Speaker 00

  Buist?

• 1:36:31Speaker 05

  I don't know. What's that short?

• 1:36:33Speaker 00

  I don't know. They called him Buzz or Bus.

• 1:36:35Speaker 05

  That's way better.

• 1:36:36Speaker 00

  Buist Lamb Warren. And they both, I, I think both the, it's pretty crazy, you know, like, when you see nineteen forty-five, like, oh, what's going on here? Both, both their quarterbacks served in the army and the Navy, so it's pretty cool. And then the other game that this happened in a win was nineteen seventy-four, the Bills beat the Jets sixteen to twelve. Joe Ferguson was the quarterback for the Bills. He went oh for two. Joe Namath was the quarterback for the Jets. He went two for eighteen for thirty-three yards and three interceptions, leading rusher in the game. OJ Simpson.

• 1:37:09Speaker 05

  Oh, wow.

• 1:37:11Speaker 00

  So Bucky Irving, be careful.

• 1:37:12Speaker 05

  Well, yeah, good for you, Bucky.

• 1:37:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:37:14Speaker 05

  Pretty low bar to, to, to clear though.

• 1:37:16Speaker 00

  But yeah, it was, uh, also just incredible mud on the jerseys. Like the Bucks looked awesome.

• 1:37:21Speaker 03

  Did you see mud on the cheerleaders too? They're, they had a rain game.

• 1:37:24Speaker 00

  They were just stomping in there.

• 1:37:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, I respected the hell out of them. They were wearing the, the standard kit, right?

• 1:37:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:37:28Speaker 05

  They had, they had no poncho on, nothing like that. They were like, listen, if, if everyone's gonna get wet, we're gonna get wet.

• 1:37:34Speaker 03

  And they didn't, didn't miss a beat?

• 1:37:36Speaker 05

  Nope.

• 1:37:36Speaker 00

  So are you full, you're, you're, you're fullback on because I, these next two games will be, I'm, listen, I'm not overlooking, I, I gotta worry about the Seahawks Monday night, but I don't think the Bucks are bad, like, their defense is good. This isn't gonna be, uh, they're not a, they're a three and five team, but I think they're better than that.

• 1:37:55Speaker 03

  Right now, I'm like emotionally fan still in. If we split one of the next, the next two games, I'm like objectively, it makes sense to be in, back in.

• 1:38:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, cause you also are undefeated in the South right now. You still have two games against the Saints who are the worst team in the South.

• 1:38:09Speaker 03

  It's our division to lose them. That's how I look at it.

• 1:38:11Speaker 00

  And you're, you have a home game against the Panthers. Wow.

• 1:38:16Speaker 00

  Baker's thumb, I mean, Baker, it's, what a, what a comeback for Baker. He's, he's two and oh with sixty-four yards.

• 1:38:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, the last.

• 1:38:24Speaker 00

  Two games.

• 1:38:25Speaker 05

  The last two weeks, he's attempted fourteen passes. They have five hundred seventy-two rush yards, eight takeaways, six sacks and a blocked kick.

• 1:38:34Speaker 00

  I'm telling you, this defense is good.

• 1:38:35Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:38:36Speaker 00

  Defense is good.

• 1:38:37Speaker 03

  If, if the defense can stay this disciplined and we kind of keep the run game we've established, if you add even like a marginal amount of like air attack to the team, I feel like we're in a fantastic spot.

• 1:38:50Speaker 05

  How many quarterbacks could have won this game today for Tampa Bay?

• 1:38:56Speaker 03

  I think.

• 1:38:59Speaker 03

  I think maybe us, one of us.

• 1:39:01Speaker 05

  You think we could, we could have done it?

• 1:39:02Speaker 03

  I think we could have done it.

• 1:39:03Speaker 00

  Although we should say probably the coolest play of the day was Baker avoiding that sack, then throwing it backwards to Bucky and then Bucky having it unfortunately hit out of his hands at the goal line by Jesse Bates. That was, that was this game in one nutshell, like where it's just like everything happening, no real rhythm, no, you can't even throw a forward pass. And then a fumble.

• 1:39:30Speaker 03

  Sometimes you don't gotta go forward with the pass.

• 1:39:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:39:32Speaker 05

  Yeah. You know, it was a great play. Jesse Bates quietly putting together an incredible season.

• 1:39:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. I saw the stat was, uh, the leading pass catchers in this game were Kyle Pitts with two, uh, Jahan Dotson with two and Alex Anzalone with two.

• 1:39:49Speaker 05

  Yeah. In the first quarter, right?

• 1:39:52Speaker 00

  Alex Anzalone plays defense.

• 1:39:54Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:39:55Speaker 00

  So his hair is so sick.

• 1:39:57Speaker 03

  It is.

• 1:39:58Speaker 00

  When he takes it, I was wet today. It was fucking sick. Really sick.

• 1:40:02Speaker 05

  So you have three and five, half a game behind Carolina.

• 1:40:06Speaker 00

  And they've beaten them. And they're next to, and their Carolina game is at home. I don't,

• 1:40:13Speaker 00

  I mean, they have a tough schedule, but like the fact that they've beaten both the Falcons and the Panthers is pretty significant. If they can do it again and sweep the, the series, like the Bucks might be able to win the South by just going six and O in the NFC South.

• 1:40:28Speaker 03

  NFC South, man.

• 1:40:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:40:29Speaker 05

  Continue that reign of dominance. It's one of the best teams in the league for the first half of the 2020s.

• 1:40:34Speaker 00

  Yeah. And look at it. It all started with Jalen Daniels in, in Dallas.

• 1:40:39Speaker 03

  85 two times.

• 1:40:40Speaker 05

  The thing I, I always admire about the NFC South is they've been consistently, you know, pretty bad for the last 10 years or so. Um, my, obviously Tom Brady's teams are pretty special. Um, but they, uh, they tend to be a bad division, but they're always super competitive.

• 1:40:55Speaker 05

  And you, you never know what's going to happen.

• 1:40:56Speaker 03

  I think that's just football in the South.

• 1:40:57Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:40:58Speaker 00

  I mean, they do have a Super Bowl in the last, yeah, six years, which a lot of divisions can't say.

• 1:41:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:41:04Speaker 00

  So.

• 1:41:06Speaker 03

  Look, any teams who go to, like go to practice in most days, it's like in the nineties, it's going to be, even if it's bad football, we, you breed different athletes when they play in that kind of heat all the time. So NFC South, even if there's bad teams, those guys are tough, man.

• 1:41:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're tough. All right. Uh, let's go AFC South real quick. Jaguars 42 Colts 7. Hank.

• 1:41:26Speaker 04

  Hand up.

• 1:41:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:29Speaker 04

  I, I was right about the Giants. Hit the nail on the head.

• 1:41:33Speaker 00

  Oh, you're talking about last.

• 1:41:33Speaker 04

  I saw a hungry dog.

• 1:41:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:36Speaker 04

  I was dead wrong about the Colts.

• 1:41:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:38Speaker 04

  They are, are the deadest, most non-competitive football team.

• 1:41:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:41:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:45Speaker 04

  Other than the Chargers that I've ever seen.

• 1:41:46Speaker 05

  Yeah. I, I think they might be worse.

• 1:41:49Speaker 00

  I, I think so too. Cause they're just.

• 1:41:52Speaker 04

  Well, they went from like kind of frisky to just completely dead in a matter of three weeks.

• 1:41:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:41:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. And Daniel Jones is in, they're all in hell. They're all in hell. This game was absolute laugher. I mean, you were covering for a quarter. I'll say that.

• 1:42:11Speaker 04

  It didn't feel, it felt like it was over from the first shot.

• 1:42:13Speaker 00

  It did. But yeah, you were covering for a quarter.

• 1:42:15Speaker 04

  The Jaguars helmets kind of gave me hope. I was like, these, these helmets, they look like this, these are clown helmets. I know we talked about it earlier and they can wear whatever they want, but those helmets were gross.

• 1:42:24Speaker 05

  Yeah. The thing was like, this was such a laugher. And then they just completely took their foot off the gas in the fourth quarter.

• 1:42:29Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Shane Steichen's fired, right?

• 1:42:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:42:33Speaker 00

  Also Carly Ursay, like that,

• 1:42:37Speaker 00

  that hat was ridiculous for how bad the Colts are going right now. You can't be wearing a hat that swagged out. I feel like you gotta, you gotta go the tiny, tiny logo hat. Don't you think?

• 1:42:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:42:48Speaker 00

  Like it's, it's bad.

• 1:42:49Speaker 04

  You don't know fashion.

• 1:42:50Speaker 05

  To, to me, to me, that hat.

• 1:42:52Speaker 00

  She was, she, she did, she was swagged out. She looked awesome.

• 1:42:55Speaker 05

  That hat to me.

• 1:42:56Speaker 00

  Are those bedazzled AirPods?

• 1:42:58Speaker 05

  They are. I like the glasses too.

• 1:43:01Speaker 04

  That's right up your alley. Her outfit, her outfit is right up your alley.

• 1:43:04Speaker 05

  I could wear, I could pull that off for sure. I have probably worn that.

• 1:43:07Speaker 00

  But I'm saying from, she has the Colts.

• 1:43:10Speaker 05

  Colts hat is.

• 1:43:11Speaker 00

  The pin on the top.

• 1:43:12Speaker 05

  Incredible.

• 1:43:12Speaker 00

  I'm just saying if you're a Colts player, it's like, we gotta, we gotta match the mood, right? She got the Colts handkerchief, like.

• 1:43:19Speaker 05

  I think that's.

• 1:43:20Speaker 04

  If you're a Colts player, you're gassing her up and like, you look great.

• 1:43:22Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:43:23Speaker 04

  Give me another contract.

• 1:43:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:24Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:43:25Speaker 04

  The owner can.

• 1:43:25Speaker 00

  She does look great. I'm just saying.

• 1:43:27Speaker 04

  Can wear whatever they want.

• 1:43:28Speaker 05

  Hey, Mrs. C, how you doing?

• 1:43:29Speaker 00

  I'm just saying.

• 1:43:30Speaker 05

  With her, um, that's her Florida outfit. She was going to Florida today.

• 1:43:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:34Speaker 05

  She's going to wear something fashionable. That is that, if I'm looking at this picture, that picture, that's like, that's meth. That is meth personified.

• 1:43:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:42Speaker 05

  Um.

• 1:43:43Speaker 03

  I don't think the Florida outfit thing plays for Jacksonville.

• 1:43:47Speaker 05

  Why?

• 1:43:48Speaker 03

  Cause I feel like.

• 1:43:49Speaker 00

  It's different.

• 1:43:50Speaker 03

  It's not Miami. It's not like it's her Miami.

• 1:43:52Speaker 05

  No, I didn't say it was Miami outfit. That's Florida. I'm saying that's like, that's, that's, that's dirty Florida.

• 1:43:57Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:43:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, but she's kind of fancy.

• 1:44:00Speaker 03

  That, yeah, I was thinking.

• 1:44:01Speaker 00

  She looks fancy. She looks like she's trying to do Miami.

• 1:44:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:44:05Speaker 00

  She looks like, yeah.

• 1:44:06Speaker 03

  Although I don't know if that hat is Miami.

• 1:44:07Speaker 05

  That hat's Jacksonville.

• 1:44:09Speaker 00

  That hat is a PFC hat.

• 1:44:10Speaker 03

  The sunglasses and the, and the bedazzled AirPods or whatever, that feels like, I actually, I don't fucking know.

• 1:44:18Speaker 05

  I think, I think the hat is Jacksonville formal. Um, I think that the Miami aspect to this outfit was her thinking, I'm going to go to Florida and it's an excuse to wear the thing that you would wear in Miami, but they're only going to Jacksonville.

• 1:44:31Speaker 00

  But I, what I'm saying is I feel like with how bad the Colts are, you gotta just like, you gotta wear like black, like, you know, you gotta match the mood. It's a funeral.

• 1:44:43Speaker 05

  You gotta, yeah.

• 1:44:43Speaker 00

  The team is just in, in hell. The fans are in hell. Shane Steichen's gonna be fired. If he's not fired, like, I wouldn't be surprised if he's fired by the time this podcast is posted.

• 1:44:52Speaker 05

  Counterpoint though, five dimensional chess move. We're talking about Carly Ursay's outfit right now as the focal point instead of the Colts. So she drew away all the attention.

• 1:45:02Speaker 00

  That's true. That's true.

• 1:45:04Speaker 05

  Good move, queen.

• 1:45:05Speaker 00

  Colts are bad.

• 1:45:06Speaker 05

  They're very bad. I also think that this outfit is just her, like she's, she's giving her self-confidence because she is about to fire literally everybody.

• 1:45:14Speaker 00

  Oh, the Jags weren't even playing in Jacksonville. They're playing in Orlando.

• 1:45:17Speaker 05

  Oh, it was Orlando. That's right. Yeah.

• 1:45:18Speaker 00

  Yeah. So then maybe she was going to Disney World or something.

• 1:45:24Speaker 00

  Huh.

• 1:45:24Speaker 05

  She's, that, that's her outfit that she puts on when she means business, when people are about to get the axe.

• 1:45:28Speaker 00

  Uh, the Jags, yeah, I don't really know what to say other than the Jags are just significantly better than the Colts. Their defense looked good. Tooten is awesome. I, I, that was the one thing I wanted to bring up. Do you remember PFT, uh, a couple of years ago when we had a generational running back draft?

• 1:45:49Speaker 05

  Go on.

• 1:45:50Speaker 00

  That's what it was called. A generational running back draft.

• 1:45:54Speaker 00

  Tooten is the best running back from that draft and he was drafted in the fourth round. The draft went Gentey with the sixth pick. Amari and Hampton with the 22nd pick. Quinshon Junk, Judkins with the 36th pick. Travion with 38th, RJ Harvey at 60. Caleb Johnson has already been traded at 83.

• 1:46:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:46:15Speaker 00

  Then Tooten at 104.

• 1:46:18Speaker 00

  That was, we, I remember, I mean, you guys remember it's two years ago. It was like, this is the draft. All the running backs. Tooten's the best one. He's a fucking monster. Every single day, every single game, he just goes off. And actually the second best, well, Scotty Boo went at, at 105 and I, I still think Scotty was good. The second best might be my guy, Manung guy. It's in the seventh round.

• 1:46:42Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:46:42Speaker 00

  It's crazy to look back at that draft and be like, where are all these guys that were supposed to be like impact running backs right away?

• 1:46:48Speaker 05

  They felt for the flash early and like all the physical dudes dropped.

• 1:46:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:46:52Speaker 05

  Uh, Tooten is, is a lot of fun to watch. He is, he's a legitimately really good player. And, uh, yeah, the, the Jaguars are just, they're operating on a different level.

• 1:47:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're, they're, and their defense is, is flying around. They had that, uh, they had the 92 yard pick six. I mean, they, they just beat, and they also did the, the thing which maybe Liam Cohen did this on purpose, but he was like, the Jaguars, the one thing that's been troubling them is the red zone offense. Remember when they went to Europe and it was like, what's going on here with the goal line stuff? They're just like, we'll just not go in the red zone today. They scored from, uh, 31 yard touchdown, a 39 yard touchdown, 28 yard touchdown, 25 yard touchdown.

• 1:47:33Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:47:33Speaker 00

  That's a good way to solve it. She'd never have to go in the red zone.

• 1:47:37Speaker 05

  So yeah, Andrew Luck was the last quarterback for the Colts to win in Jacksonville. They haven't won in Jacksonville since the Obama administration.

• 1:47:45Speaker 00

  Anthony Richardson got in Hank.

• 1:47:47Speaker 04

  Yeah. Looked good.

• 1:47:48Speaker 00

  Did he?

• 1:47:50Speaker 04

  Like, like physically, like the way like.

• 1:47:52Speaker 00

  He looked healthy.

• 1:47:53Speaker 04

  Drake May, when he was talking about AJ Brown, like looking cool in the huddle.

• 1:47:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:47:58Speaker 04

  Anthony Richardson looked good on the field.

• 1:47:59Speaker 00

  Okay. Good. Yeah.

• 1:48:02Speaker 05

  Okay. It gives you a little boost. For sure. Um, are they, I hope that they just start them.

• 1:48:08Speaker 00

  They should.

• 1:48:09Speaker 05

  You let them play some games.

• 1:48:10Speaker 00

  Might as well.

• 1:48:11Speaker 05

  Become a, become a, a fun, bad team.

• 1:48:14Speaker 00

  Uh, what did Seth the Flow say? How it's, how it started in August, how it's currently November, mullet Seth is coming. Oh, that has nothing to do with the Colts.

• 1:48:23Speaker 05

  Did you see the, uh, the song for this week though?

• 1:48:26Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:48:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:48:27Speaker 05

  It was, it was sad.

• 1:48:29Speaker 04

  That I, I wish I could have reversed the hungry dog right then.

• 1:48:32Speaker 00

  It is. Why didn't you? You could have.

• 1:48:33Speaker 05

  It's some dark times in Indianapolis.

• 1:48:35Speaker 00

  He posted this on Friday.

• 1:48:36Speaker 04

  I know. I just like, I, I, I don't know.

• 1:48:39Speaker 00

  You posted the hungry dog on Sunday morning?

• 1:48:41Speaker 04

  We talk about it in the show though. You do this to me every week.

• 1:48:44Speaker 05

  Yeah. Listen to how sad this, I've never seen Seth like this before.

• 1:48:48Speaker 00

  This is the Scotty Scheffler picture.

• 1:48:50Speaker 05

  Never seen this before.

• 1:48:53Speaker 06

  This is our Colts.

• 1:48:54Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 1:48:55Speaker 06

  This is our team. We bleed blue. This is our Colts. Whether we don't lose, thank God Ballard's fired. For the shoe, beat the Jags. Let's jack up Jacksonville. This is our.

• 1:49:13Speaker 04

  Team, go Colts.

• 1:49:19Speaker 04

  Come on, boys, let's get it.

• 1:49:21Speaker 05

  Just sad, sad stuff, you know.

• 1:49:25Speaker 05

  Bring out the tarp.

• 1:49:27Speaker 05

  Damn. It's time.

• 1:49:29Speaker 05

  Oh, man, Colts are a bummer. They're in hell. I mean, were you talking about shooting Seth? That's what they do. I was talking about that horse. That horse was. So that's what you do with a horse that's sick.

• 1:49:41Speaker 04

  You want to kill Seth the Flow?

• 1:49:42Speaker 05

  No, the horse.

• 1:49:46Speaker 05

  The horse. That's what you do with a sick horse, Hank.

• 1:49:50Speaker 04

  That's not a horse, though. That's Seth the Flow.

• 1:49:52Speaker 05

  Oh, because he was wearing a, I guess he was wearing a mask, but it looked like a horse.

• 1:49:55Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:49:57Speaker 05

  Yeah. No, I love Seth the Flow.

• 1:49:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:50:00Speaker 05

  I'm just saying, like, it's a bad, this is a bad, bad time.

• 1:50:02Speaker 04

  Bad time.

• 1:50:03Speaker 05

  In Indy.

• 1:50:04Speaker 04

  Bad time. Okay, uh, let's do the afternoon games. Let's do, uh, your last ad, PFT, and then we'll get to the three afternoon games.

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• 1:51:02Speaker 04

  Okay, afternoon games, Patriots 24, Dolphins 19. Hank, that was a scary one for you. Little scary. I think I hit the nail on the head when we talked about the show on, on Friday show. Patriots, I was not worried about the Patriots winning. I said they probably were not going to cover. They should have covered, but the first half was ugly. They took complete control of the game in the second half. Still got backdoored, but a win is a win, especially in Miami. We, we struggled in Miami, tough conditions, no receivers. Drake may found a way.

• 1:51:34Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah. Um, it was, uh, it was Pop Douglas, right? And then nobody else?

• 1:51:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, because Hunter Henry went out. Kyle Williams.

• 1:51:43Speaker 05

  Kyle Williams, yeah.

• 1:51:44Speaker 04

  Uh, yeah, you guys were really bad in the first half and then basically just flipped, like, almost, it was almost like a, hey, you're the Patriots and they're the Dolphins, second half. Like, what are you doing? Yeah, the defense, defense stepped up. They, they had two interceptions. The second interception, they, they got called back for an offside, which is was not an offside, or neutral zone infraction, whatever. Defense stepped up, made Malik Willis be Malik Willis. Which is a smart strategy. And Drake may play great.

• 1:52:16Speaker 05

  Second half, he played pretty much a perfect game.

• 1:52:18Speaker 04

  Yeah. So it's gonna be tough for Glenn.

• 1:52:21Speaker 05

  Glenn finds a way.

• 1:52:22Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:52:24Speaker 05

  Glenn might be, Glenn might just dedicate his next week to figuring out how to, how to fix the Vikings offense.

• 1:52:29Speaker 04

  Hmm, that's interesting.

• 1:52:31Speaker 05

  If that Vikings offense was like halfway, halfway not bad.

• 1:52:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:52:35Speaker 05

  They don't even have to be average.

• 1:52:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:52:37Speaker 05

  Halfway not bad. That's a special team.

• 1:52:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, Drake May's, uh, fifth straight game with three, three touchdowns. Sick, sick touchdown, Hesey Hay, whoop. Uh, for the run touchdown, two bombs in terrible conditions. Again, like, they did everything except for covering, but that was, again, when it's the, when, when you're playing the Dolphins in Miami, that just happens. Yeah. Uh, Chop Robinson's really good.

• 1:53:03Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:53:04Speaker 04

  That's all I got for the, I mean, Malik Willis is Malik Willis. You're right. Like, he had a couple plays, he had actually two drives in the first half where you're like, oh shit, the Dolphins, like, they're playing ball control. This is nice. And then it's just, there was that one, that one play where he,

• 1:53:23Speaker 04

  he scrambled left and then tried to, tried to, uh, square his body to throw it and just got absolutely demolished. Like, dude, you can't, what are you doing? But yeah, that was a. I actually have not looked. I was about to, but I, we're at home versus the Packers next week. Whose line is anyway?

• 1:53:44Speaker 05

  Ooh, uh, Patriots.

• 1:53:47Speaker 04

  One and a half. How long is A.J. Brown out? Hold on, don't, don't pull. A.J. Brown, the Eagles, the, A.J. Brown might never play again.

• 1:53:53Speaker 05

  That's the thing, the Patriots.

• 1:53:54Speaker 04

  You're blaming the Eagles? Yeah.

• 1:53:56Speaker 05

  Go on.

• 1:53:59Speaker 04

  I saw people on, on, on X, the everything app, it's all happening on X, so who knows the validity of it being like, oh yeah, like everyone in the Eagles organization knew, like, his knee was a ticking time bomb and.

• 1:54:09Speaker 07

  Wouldn't that be the Patriots?

• 1:54:11Speaker 04

  I guess, I guess.

• 1:54:12Speaker 07

  You mean, I guess.

• 1:54:15Speaker 04

  Just in good faith.

• 1:54:17Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:54:17Speaker 04

  It's bad faith.

• 1:54:18Speaker 05

  Oh, you, you sold him damaged goods.

• 1:54:20Speaker 04

  It's bad, it's bad faith.

• 1:54:21Speaker 04

  That was bad faith.

• 1:54:24Speaker 05

  You knew his knee was fucked. Sure. Sorry.

• 1:54:28Speaker 04

  So he's.

• 1:54:28Speaker 05

  Thanks for the first round pick.

• 1:54:29Speaker 04

  So he's, he's out for a while? He's out for the next couple of weeks, but it, it feels like it's, it's a while.

• 1:54:37Speaker 05

  But you guys win without him.

• 1:54:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, but would be great if we, imagine, imagine how good we would be with him.

• 1:54:43Speaker 05

  Well.

• 1:54:44Speaker 04

  Well, not with a bad knee.

• 1:54:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:54:46Speaker 04

  All right, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Patriots minus two and a half. I'm gonna say one and a half.

• 1:54:52Speaker 05

  I'm gonna say three.

• 1:54:54Speaker 04

  Patriots minus three?

• 1:54:55Speaker 05

  Yep. It is Patriots minus three. Okay.

• 1:54:59Speaker 04

  Okay, all right. That's an exciting game.

• 1:55:01Speaker 05

  I think that's a, that's a fair line. Yeah.

• 1:55:04Speaker 04

  But yeah, and we got, we got Packers, we got Lions, and we're gonna. That looks like it's going to two and a half, by the way.

• 1:55:10Speaker 05

  Oh, what's the juice?

• 1:55:11Speaker 04

  Trying to grab, it looks like that's gonna be a Packers, people are gonna, it's minus 118 to plus three, so if you're trying to bet it. Sure, if you, if you like the points, do it now. Wait, it just went, it just went to two and a half.

• 1:55:25Speaker 05

  Oh shit.

• 1:55:26Speaker 07

  That's crazy.

• 1:55:26Speaker 04

  That was crazy. That was nuts. Yeah. It'll probably bounce around there.

• 1:55:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, Hank, um, I think that, uh, I think that whatever adjustment they made at halftime, it worked. These are all promising signs. And I think that, uh, you continue to win without A.J. Brown. I actually think that the offense might be better without A.J. Brown.

• 1:55:47Speaker 04

  Okay, terrible take, but that, that's on, on par for you.

• 1:55:50Speaker 05

  Just look at, just look.

• 1:55:52Speaker 04

  We haven't played, we played like one game with him.

• 1:55:55Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:55:58Speaker 04

  That was a quick grade of a take.

• 1:55:59Speaker 05

  Well, the, I mean, we can just look at.

• 1:56:02Speaker 04

  Well, it's just like, PFT take on the Patriots, and it's like, most likely a bad take.

• 1:56:06Speaker 05

  Seahawks.

• 1:56:08Speaker 07

  I mean, he's dropped every ball that's been thrown.

• 1:56:10Speaker 05

  And the thing is, you have, Max told me I'm right about this. When, when he's in that huddle.

• 1:56:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:56:15Speaker 05

  You know that you have to get him the ball.

• 1:56:17Speaker 04

  But yeah.

• 1:56:17Speaker 05

  You have to involve him.

• 1:56:18Speaker 04

  Force it to.

• 1:56:19Speaker 05

  Or else you risk losing him and losing his interest in the game. And if he's not catching the ball, actually kind of a downturn for your offense.

• 1:56:26Speaker 04

  Sounds like a, this sounds like a project for Glenn. The other, are the Patriots better or worse with A.J. Brown?

• 1:56:33Speaker 05

  I mean, I, I think it's kind of indisputable. So I grade Hank's grade of my take an F minus.

• 1:56:38Speaker 04

  Wow. The, the referee crew for this game should be like fired, banned, never allowed to, to referee again.

• 1:56:48Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:56:49Speaker 04

  The Kyle Williams touchdown, he caught it clearly a catch, ran 10 steps, went in the end zone, it hit his knee in the end zone, and, and it went out of bounds.

• 1:57:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, the crazy part was.

• 1:57:02Speaker 04

  They called it an incompletion.

• 1:57:04Speaker 05

  That was crazy. I do think they should have reviewed it because you don't know where he hit the ball with his knee.

• 1:57:08Speaker 04

  Fair, fine, fine.

• 1:57:10Speaker 05

  Out of bounds.

• 1:57:11Speaker 04

  Fine, no problem. But to call it an incompletion, like, the, the fact that, like, was called on the field is an incompletion.

• 1:57:17Speaker 07

  Why did, why do you care so much about, you got, you ended up getting the call. You've been talking about this all day.

• 1:57:24Speaker 04

  Because.

• 1:57:25Speaker 07

  And it didn't affect the game at all.

• 1:57:27Speaker 04

  If you're a referee and you saw that happen and said incomplete, you should not have a job. That's my, that is my point. Like, it doesn't matter.

• 1:57:34Speaker 07

  Affected the game zero.

• 1:57:36Speaker 04

  But it, it, those referees should not be refereeing other games.

• 1:57:42Speaker 04

  They also, like, the, the, the interception, it didn't end up mattering. I mean, it did end up mattering for, like, the cover, but it,

• 1:57:49Speaker 04

  they called a guy neutral zone infraction when he just wasn't, and that, that stopped an interception, but the, watch the play and tell me, like, how a referee saw this play and called it an incompletion. It did lead the, the Mike Vrabel probably, probably challenge of the year.

• 1:58:04Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:58:05Speaker 04

  Toss of the year.

• 1:58:06Speaker 05

  Good toss.

• 1:58:06Speaker 04

  Flag toss of the year.

• 1:58:07Speaker 05

  Yes, memes.

• 1:58:08Speaker 07

  Uh, to Hank's point, this crew was moved off of Sunday Night Football from bad officiating and moved on to this game.

• 1:58:13Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:58:13Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 1:58:14Speaker 04

  Thank you, memes.

• 1:58:15Speaker 05

  So it's okay for them to officiate other games, just not the ones that a lot of people watch, is what they're saying.

• 1:58:21Speaker 07

  Uh, that's what they're saying, yes.

• 1:58:22Speaker 05

  Yeah. Um, I, I actually think what Hank's doing is extremely noble. Hank is saying he, he saw something bad. He doesn't want another franchise to have to go through with what he just suffered through.

• 1:58:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:58:31Speaker 05

  Thank you, Hank.

• 1:58:32Speaker 04

  I'll keep, I'll be keeping an eye on this crew. See something, say something.

• 1:58:34Speaker 05

  Keep that energy. Hank, I would like you to grade these officials.

• 1:58:38Speaker 04

  Today?

• 1:58:39Speaker 05

  And next week, but yes.

• 1:58:40Speaker 04

  I'll see, yeah.

• 1:58:41Speaker 05

  What's your grade on them today?

• 1:58:43Speaker 04

  D.

• 1:58:45Speaker 05

  Oh, that's not that bad.

• 1:58:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:58:48Speaker 04

  It's not, it's not good.

• 1:58:49Speaker 05

  It's not F.

• 1:58:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, F would have been way worse.

• 1:58:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, I personally would have given, yeah.

• 1:58:54Speaker 04

  D passing? I don't think, is D passing?

• 1:58:56Speaker 05

  I, I pass some courses with Ds, yeah.

• 1:58:59Speaker 04

  I guess you do. Wait, do you?

• 1:59:01Speaker 05

  F is fail.

• 1:59:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know, yeah, I guess D is passing.

• 1:59:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, D's, D's passing.

• 1:59:05Speaker 04

  Yeah. So they're fine. I guess. But no, if you can't, you can't, they're not eligible. You can't get Ds and still be eligible. They should be, they should be, they're academically ineligible to referee.

• 1:59:18Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:59:19Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:59:21Speaker 04

  And how do you feel, you have, so you said Packers? Packers, Lions, bye. Packers, Germany, bye. So that's, those are big two games coming up. Yeah. How you feeling about them? Feel good. Uh, 2-0. I feel like the vision's back, back in our hands. Division's back in your hands. Split. You split, you go into the bye, you come back, regroup for, for a strong second half of the year and. Bills are six and one. I know.

• 1:59:47Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:59:47Speaker 07

  Your understanding of, like, where you are in the division.

• 1:59:50Speaker 04

  It's how I feel. It's how I feel about. Oh, this is your feeling of the division? The Bills aren't gonna end the season. Right now, you're the seventh seed. I understand that. I, I don't, the Bills. Say you feel right now? I feel like the Bills are gonna lose another game, not against the Patriots, lose their next game against the Patriots, and then we're gonna be in the same spot. So where do you feel, though, overall, like, are you the two seed, one seed, possibly one seed?

• 2:00:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, two, two or one seed. Yeah. That's how it feels. So you're, you're a seven seed, but. We also, we got, we gotta get, we gotta get our receivers back. We gotta, we gotta get healthy.

• 2:00:23Speaker 05

  Well, no, not A.J.

• 2:00:25Speaker 04

  Yeah. I want A.J.

• 2:00:26Speaker 05

  You should trade A.J. Brown.

• 2:00:27Speaker 04

  I want A.J.

• 2:00:28Speaker 05

  Trade deadline coming up soon. Trade for Jonathan Taylor.

• 2:00:33Speaker 04

  People were tossing out, uh, trivia on for, for Jonathan Taylor and some picks. I'm not opposed to that.

• 2:00:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean Jonathan Taylor is a really good player.

• 2:00:42Speaker 04

  I know.

• 2:00:44Speaker 00

  I like this feel verse where you are.

• 2:00:46Speaker 04

  Feel verse real.

• 2:00:47Speaker 05

  Cause it's not.

• 2:00:48Speaker 00

  Feel verse real.

• 2:00:48Speaker 05

  It's not always the same.

• 2:00:49Speaker 00

  No, definitely isn't.

• 2:00:52Speaker 04

  And if it like we're, we're, we're trending big game next week. Fox, is it, is it the game of the week?

• 2:00:58Speaker 00

  Ah, yes.

• 2:00:59Speaker 04

  So another, another big, we have like no, no more one o'clock games until like late December.

• 2:01:05Speaker 05

  Tom Brady coming back.

• 2:01:06Speaker 07

  Slate kinda stinks next week.

• 2:01:08Speaker 00

  Does it?

• 2:01:08Speaker 05

  I think Tom Brady.

• 2:01:09Speaker 07

  The one, the, the noon games are, there's finding a main, a main game on for the noon slate is gonna be tough.

• 2:01:15Speaker 00

  What's Monday night football next week?

• 2:01:19Speaker 07

  Bear, Monday night football is good.

• 2:01:21Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:01:21Speaker 07

  Those Vikings, but. We had.

• 2:01:24Speaker 04

  These games are terrible.

• 2:01:25Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:01:25Speaker 04

  Holy shit.

• 2:01:27Speaker 07

  Bad.

• 2:01:27Speaker 00

  Okay, hold on, let me look, let me look.

• 2:01:29Speaker 07

  Jets Chiefs shootout.

• 2:01:30Speaker 00

  Let me look. Broncos Panthers.

• 2:01:33Speaker 04

  Ugh.

• 2:01:33Speaker 00

  Boom.

• 2:01:34Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:01:35Speaker 00

  If we're just, if we're trying to find a game that has like any type of stakes.

• 2:01:39Speaker 05

  That's the best one. Yeah.

• 2:01:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:01:40Speaker 07

  But like, that's not a.

• 2:01:42Speaker 00

  No, no, not Rams commanders. I'm not, I'm not standing on a soapbox.

• 2:01:48Speaker 07

  That's the game. The Eagles Giants, the big rat line of all time.

• 2:01:53Speaker 00

  We're gonna have to get creative next week with the cave parlay.

• 2:01:56Speaker 07

  How are the Giants only two and a half point favorites against Eagles?

• 2:01:59Speaker 05

  That's respect for the Giants though.

• 2:02:02Speaker 07

  No, it's not.

• 2:02:02Speaker 05

  That's massive amounts.

• 2:02:03Speaker 07

  You were six point favorites.

• 2:02:05Speaker 05

  I was saying, Max, I was saying, considering what Vegas has been putting the Giants at for the last month, that's a massive amount of respect for them.

• 2:02:13Speaker 00

  Uh, all right.

• 2:02:14Speaker 05

  What are the Rams five and a half point favorites?

• 2:02:17Speaker 00

  Five and a half point favorites.

• 2:02:18Speaker 07

  Rams kinda stink.

• 2:02:19Speaker 05

  The Rams do kinda stink.

• 2:02:20Speaker 00

  So Rams 24, Chargers nine. I mean, they, they handily beat the Chargers, but it did, it was like a first half sleepwalk where you're like, what's going on here? And then, listen, I love Jim Harbaugh. At this point, like, what are we doing playing for field goals? That was the doubt, not, not that the Chargers were ever gonna win this game, but the game flipped when it was six to three and it was like a minute and a half left in the first half. And they, they had a fourth and two in field goal range and they're like, let's kick another field goal, go up nine, three. They went up nine, three, then the Rams went down and scored, went to half 10, nine, scored on the next drive. Next thing you know, it's 17, nine. You know what I mean?

• 2:02:59Speaker 00

  Like, it was just like, I don't know, I don't know, man. You guys stink. Just go for it. Go for it.

• 2:03:07Speaker 05

  You know what I think the, uh, the Chargers should do? Cause like, it doesn't seem like Harbaugh is gonna make any big decisions, which is kinda strange. And they keep asking about Mike McDaniel and he keeps not really answering the questions, but he hasn't fired him yet. So I don't know what it's gonna take. And when he does fire him, it's gonna be way too late. Even at this point, it's already too late. He, he should just fire all of his kickers. The, the Chargers should just not have a punter. They should not have a kicker. They shouldn't even have like a long snapper on the team. Use those positions on somebody else and you're just burn the boats.

• 2:03:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:40Speaker 05

  You're just going for it all the time. Fuck it. Who cares?

• 2:03:43Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:03:44Speaker 05

  Season's over. Might as well try to score some points.

• 2:03:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're just, and, and they had the rare double insult stat that was, uh, that's gotten them a lot of people eyeballs on. Here it is.

• 2:03:57Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:03:57Speaker 00

  The Chargers fall to own seven for the first time since the 2000 season. Their QB that year was Jim Harbaugh. That's, that's the first insult stat. And then in the same tweet from ESPN insights, Chargers have gone 27 straight drives without a TD. The longest streak in the NFL since the 2024 Dolphins, 30 straight, who were coached by Mike McDaniel. 27 drives without a touchdown is so many drives.

• 2:04:24Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:04:25Speaker 00

  That's so many drives. How many games is that? That's three games that they've, when's the last time they scored a touchdown on offense?

• 2:04:31Speaker 05

  Let's see.

• 2:04:32Speaker 00

  Oh my God. They're just such a bummer to watch. Oh.

• 2:04:38Speaker 00

  When are they gonna start trading everyone? That's the thing too.

• 2:04:42Speaker 05

  So I guess they got Khalil Mack, right?

• 2:04:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, they, uh.

• 2:04:46Speaker 05

  Lad McConkey. I don't know who else like would be of value right now.

• 2:04:49Speaker 00

  Broncos game was the last time they scored a touchdown, which was three weeks ago.

• 2:04:55Speaker 00

  Yikes.

• 2:04:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's pretty bad.

• 2:04:57Speaker 07

  What about Herbert?

• 2:04:58Speaker 05

  What about Herbert?

• 2:04:59Speaker 07

  We haven't said his name, man.

• 2:05:00Speaker 05

  I, I actually think it's become not really stupid picks anymore. It's just big sad picks. The picks are so sad now.

• 2:05:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, because.

• 2:05:08Speaker 07

  His, his body language on the sideline was horrendous at the end of the, this game.

• 2:05:15Speaker 00

  Big stupid picks would imply that they're like somehow stopping them from winning games, but there's so many things stopping them from winning games. It's just sad picks. You know what I mean?

• 2:05:23Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:05:23Speaker 00

  Like him throwing two picks does not, does not make the Chargers lose the game, but he's bad.

• 2:05:30Speaker 05

  And they're bad picks too.

• 2:05:31Speaker 00

  Really bad.

• 2:05:32Speaker 05

  They're so sad.

• 2:05:32Speaker 00

  I think you gotta, if you're a charger, you're like, number one pick, are you thinking?

• 2:05:37Speaker 07

  You gotta at least think about it.

• 2:05:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:05:40Speaker 07

  He's terrible.

• 2:05:41Speaker 00

  Shane's gonna be so mad.

• 2:05:42Speaker 07

  No, I think he's actually starting to come around on him a little bit.

• 2:05:45Speaker 05

  What? There's, there's no doubt about the fact that he's playing completely dog shit football. He's terrible right now. Does that mean that he is a terrible player? Like for next season?

• 2:05:57Speaker 07

  Maybe he's just gotta get off the chart. Like maybe he just needs a new.

• 2:06:03Speaker 05

  You always need to change the team name.

• 2:06:05Speaker 07

  Like this throw sucks.

• 2:06:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:06:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:06:08Speaker 07

  Like it's the, it, it's a bad decision. It's a lazy ball. And it's in a spot in the game where you're still, you're still in the fight. In the third quarter, you're down one score.

• 2:06:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:06:18Speaker 07

  And it's just like, you're, you're just gifting the ball to the Rams.

• 2:06:22Speaker 05

  Change, you gotta, you gotta change everything about this team.

• 2:06:24Speaker 07

  Panic, panic.

• 2:06:27Speaker 07

  All right, I'm back.

• 2:06:28Speaker 05

  Is there a single bit of silver lining for the Chargers this year?

• 2:06:32Speaker 05

  Even a tiny bit, anywhere. I'm struggling to find it.

• 2:06:35Speaker 00

  No, I don't got one.

• 2:06:37Speaker 05

  I don't think that there is.

• 2:06:38Speaker 00

  It's really sad.

• 2:06:41Speaker 00

  They have, when, actually they probably could, they, they might be able to beat Joe Fignano.

• 2:06:48Speaker 05

  That's what I'm saying. Like that's, that's the time.

• 2:06:50Speaker 00

  They play the Texans next week. They'll get fucking throttled. Texans off a bye, getting embarrassed. They'll get throttled in that game. Then they play the Ravens and they play the Jets.

• 2:07:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:07:02Speaker 00

  So they might win a game somewhere in there, but man, is this a bad football team? And man, is it a bummer to watch.

• 2:07:08Speaker 05

  I mean, that game on the.

• 2:07:09Speaker 00

  October 11th, last offensive touchdown.

• 2:07:11Speaker 05

  That game on December 27th at the Dolphins. Right now, the Dolphins are playing way better football than the Chargers.

• 2:07:17Speaker 00

  Oh yeah.

• 2:07:18Speaker 05

  Way better.

• 2:07:18Speaker 00

  Oh yeah.

• 2:07:19Speaker 05

  And they're playing hard too. Like there were some times today where I was watching, uh, like there, there would be like four or five guys after a dude on Patriots got wrapped up, tackled like four or five guys finishing the tackle at the same time. Like they're playing really, really hard in Miami. This Chargers team is not, but that game might be very consequential for, uh, for draft purposes.

• 2:07:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. The, uh, Lad McConkey had 86 yards, led the Chargers in, uh, receiving yards. The second receiving yards leader for the Chargers were the Rams defenders, 71 interception return yards.

• 2:07:53Speaker 05

  Jesus. And, uh, how many of those yards from Lad were on that hail Mary?

• 2:07:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:08:00Speaker 05

  Yeah. That kinda like luckily.

• 2:08:01Speaker 00

  Almost got there.

• 2:08:02Speaker 05

  Luckily landed into his hand. It like farted off somebody else, caught it off the defender's face mask, and then he got tackled on the one yard line. That's probably what? 54?

• 2:08:14Speaker 07

  Ball was on their own 45.

• 2:08:17Speaker 05

  Yeah. 55 yards of that. 54 yards of that.

• 2:08:20Speaker 00

  Oh man, they're such a bummer. Rams, I do, like I said, uh, is 54 yards. The Rams, uh, they, they are running the ball again. Remember I said it last week? It's like if they, if they're gonna find themselves again, I feel like it's gotta be through running. They started slow in this game because they weren't running the ball. And then like their first few drives were just ugly. And then they're like, oh yeah, fuck. We have Karen Williams and Blake Corum. Let's let them run. And then they ran for like 129 yards in like the last three quarters or two quarters, basically.

• 2:08:55Speaker 05

  Stafford had kind of a, a big stupid pick today too.

• 2:08:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. He, he's looked off.

• 2:09:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:09:00Speaker 00

  He's looked off. And they have the, uh, so they're going to the commanders and then at the Cardinals. Okay. Last game, Broncos 28, Chiefs 24. I don't wanna overreact.

• 2:09:15Speaker 00

  But I do think this was a mini passing of the torch.

• 2:09:20Speaker 04

  Whoa.

• 2:09:21Speaker 00

  Hold on. Not, not in the way you think I'm thinking, not like, oh, the Broncos are just gonna win the AFC West for the next 10 years and like that. It's a passing of the torch in the fourth quarter Broncos dark magic, outlasting the Chiefs dark magic. Because we were watching that game together, Hank, in the gambling cave. When the Chiefs got to the goal line at the end of the game, we're like, it's the Chiefs. They score here every time. And then they just didn't. And I was like, what the fuck was that? You know? And, and Buckner, who's bad, he's just bad. They have to cut him.

• 2:10:01Speaker 00

  He, that 54 yard field goal to put him up six, he misses that, gives the Broncos a short field. It's like, what's, what's more stronger? The, like, the, the, these dark arts of the Broncos being like, really bad on offense for, for big stretches of a game and then showing up in the fourth quarter, or the Chiefs always finding a way to win a game. And today, the Broncos won out.

• 2:10:27Speaker 05

  You can't tell me that on a game winning touchdown. Yeah, you can't, you can't call that on a game winning touchdown. Oh yeah, wait, you can't because it's us, the Chiefs. We, we get no calls on the Chiefs. That's Brittany Mahomes.

• 2:10:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's PFT doing Brittany Mahomes.

• 2:10:41Speaker 05

  After the game, I love that. I love her. God bless her for saying that, for somehow twisting this world in, into a prism where she looks at it and she thinks that the Chiefs, if there's one thing about them, it's that the refs hate them.

• 2:10:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:10:55Speaker 05

  I'm glad that she can have that take.

• 2:10:57Speaker 00

  Do you, do you, do you know what I'm saying?

• 2:10:58Speaker 05

  I know what you're saying. At the, at the end of that game, I was expecting, there was one play before, um, the very, the very last one, might've been second down, Mahomes scrambles to his right.

• 2:11:06Speaker 00

  He always scores there.

• 2:11:07Speaker 05

  He always scores there. Always finds somebody that's drifting across late where he throws across his body.

• 2:11:12Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 2:11:13Speaker 05

  Or he does like a little forward pitch, underhanded. He does something that works out there.

• 2:11:17Speaker 00

  He got flushed out of the pocket and you're like, okay, here comes the Mahomes scramble or the Mahomes, oh, he's gonna throw it backwards to Kelsey standing by himself and it just didn't happen.

• 2:11:27Speaker 05

  And also, was it Emmett Johnson, number 10, uh, who looked like on Halloween, he was dressed up as slutty Isaiah Pacheco, because he like had the entire elbow pads and all that shit that look exactly like Pacheco. When he got going a little bit, I was like, okay, well, yeah, this is, it's gonna happen again. The, the Chiefs are gonna pull away with this one. The Chiefs are inevitable. But the Broncos defense looks like a completely different unit since getting Cooper back.

• 2:11:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, yeah, and, and from week one, insert hands back as well.

• 2:11:55Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:11:56Speaker 00

  But I just, I don't know, I, I probably am overreacting, but I just couldn't believe the Chiefs didn't win that game. Like that was, and, and it's not like the Bron, I, I'm very high on the Broncos. I bet the Broncos this game. I thought the Broncos were gonna win this game. But I think Broncos fans would agree with me. When the Chiefs are at the goal line with 20 seconds left, they always win those games and they just didn't. And also, what was up with Kenneth Walker's third down run?

• 2:12:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, really bad.

• 2:12:25Speaker 00

  It looked like he was like wasting time.

• 2:12:27Speaker 05

  Really bad.

• 2:12:27Speaker 00

  So weird.

• 2:12:28Speaker 05

  He had, now he had some other really nice runs.

• 2:12:31Speaker 00

  He got bottled up today. Like, that was actually the big story is the Chiefs offense, when he gets bottled up, it's just, you know, the, it, it's, it's a lot tougher to, for everything to move. They don't have the wide receivers and the, and the Broncos, yeah, their defense is awesome. And Bo Nix, just, just let, give him a chance. I do think he's playing better. I really do. I think he's, he's throwing the, he's taking risks. He's not, you know, keeping the ball. Like, he's not doing the, the, the Seahawks game where it was just like, what are we even watching? There's still a lot of, like, you could even see in watching this game, Broncos fans, there was some boos. There were some like groans because there were definitely a few three and outs where you're like, what the? I think there was one specific one in the third quarter when it was like,

• 2:13:16Speaker 00

  it was like third and eight and Bo Nix threw a pass that was four yards. That was fully defended and everyone was just like, what the fuck is this?

• 2:13:25Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 2:13:25Speaker 00

  Guess what? When, when it gets late in the game, he has three, three times, he's come back from double digits in the fourth quarter in his career.

• 2:13:34Speaker 05

  And in terms of like ways that you can win a game, I think that a goal line stand against any offense really, but in this case especially against the Kansas City Chiefs, um, like a gener- generationally great offense, that has the potential to be a springboard win like none other.

• 2:13:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:13:51Speaker 05

  Like the, a four down goal line stand against divisional opponent in front of your home crowd. That's something that I feel like a lot of teams build off of and just get way, way better.

• 2:14:01Speaker 00

  I'd agree. Yeah. I mean, I think the Broncos are very good. I think it's just Bo Nix. Like, they won this game. They still had under 300 yards in offense. They went two for 11 on third down. There's still a lot of things they gotta fix, but their defense gives them a chance in every single game. And their defense won the game at the end with that goal line stand. And Bo Nix, oh my God, that premature celebration, he, I don't think he knew what down it was.

• 2:14:24Speaker 05

  No.

• 2:14:25Speaker 00

  On, on third down, when the, when the, when, uh, the Broncos stood up, uh, Kenneth Walker, he was going nuts like they had won the game. And that would have been a very bad clip going forward.

• 2:14:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:14:40Speaker 00

  Cause I don't know if he knew exactly what, what, what the down and distance was. But yeah, good game for Bo Nix. Good game for the Broncos. They now have, like, the AFC West is all the way. This was such a big swing game in terms of the AFC West and, and where it was going. Cause now they, they've tied the, they're already done with their season series and they're both sitting at six and two, right? Are they both six and two? I think the Bron, oh no, the Chiefs had a bye, so.

• 2:15:08Speaker 05

  Broncos are ahead of them.

• 2:15:09Speaker 00

  Yes, Broncos are six and two, Chiefs are four, five and two.

• 2:15:12Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 2:15:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. Are you, I guess that you're, I know why you're gonna answer this. I was gonna say who you're more scared of. It's definitely still the Chiefs, right?

• 2:15:20Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:15:21Speaker 00

  But.

• 2:15:21Speaker 05

  What about going to Mile High? Oh, you're the one, you're gonna be the one or the two seed.

• 2:15:26Speaker 04

  We did it last year.

• 2:15:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, Jers did them.

• 2:15:30Speaker 04

  We went to Mile High last year, won AFC Championship.

• 2:15:33Speaker 05

  Snowstorm.

• 2:15:33Speaker 00

  Stitty.

• 2:15:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:15:35Speaker 00

  With a tail. Allegedly. Steve's got a tail.

• 2:15:38Speaker 05

  Remember the tail?

• 2:15:39Speaker 04

  I, you guys like, you're, you're flip flopping on Bo Nix.

• 2:15:43Speaker 00

  Oh no, I, I've never flip flopped. No, I still don't think he's very good. I think he's playing better.

• 2:15:47Speaker 04

  So it's like, why, why would I be, would I be more worried about him or Mahomes?

• 2:15:51Speaker 00

  But wait, we had this conversation two weeks ago, cause you, you, you accused me of this two weeks ago. You're like, how are the Broncos Super Bowl contenders when you think Bo Nix is bad? Because their defense is so good. And if Bo Nix can play just average, they're a dangerous team. And he's started to play a little bit closer to average. Like, it still doesn't look great, but he has played closer to average.

• 2:16:15Speaker 05

  He also does feel more comfortable moving around. He's like more dynamic. You have to see that, right?

• 2:16:21Speaker 04

  Yeah. No, I mean, he's, the Broncos are good. Broncos are a good team.

• 2:16:24Speaker 05

  The defense is really, really good.

• 2:16:25Speaker 04

  Who I'd rather play Broncos or Chiefs? It's Broncos.

• 2:16:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I mean, did you, were you not shocked by that Chiefs ending? Felt like it was like.

• 2:16:34Speaker 04

  But the regular season, if it's the playoffs, like it's gonna, it's gonna go differently.

• 2:16:39Speaker 00

  That's fair. That's fair.

• 2:16:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, I feel altitude, maybe Andy Reid doesn't operate well in thin air.

• 2:16:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:16:44Speaker 05

  He needs that air to be like nice, like a milkshake. There's something you can chew on.

• 2:16:49Speaker 00

  I, uh, they gotta cut Buckner.

• 2:16:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, so that.

• 2:16:53Speaker 00

  He's so bad.

• 2:16:53Speaker 05

  When they brought in Tucker, did you hear, um, did you hear J.J. Watt talking about it in the booth? They're pretty much saying like, Andy Reid brought him in because the only way that, that kickers can improve is if you bring in somebody to challenge him. So they had no, no other option than to bring in Justin Tucker this week. It's like, no, you had, there were other options.

• 2:17:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:17:14Speaker 05

  For sure that you could've gone with.

• 2:17:15Speaker 00

  For sure.

• 2:17:16Speaker 05

  Um, but it is a move. I feel like it, it was maybe a fake move and, and Buckner might've sniffed it out because he knew that Andy Reid probably wouldn't love to make Justin Tucker the starting kicker.

• 2:17:26Speaker 00

  But he didn't sniff it out because he played bad again.

• 2:17:28Speaker 05

  And then he played bad, that's what I'm saying. So he, he was like, okay, it's a bluff.

• 2:17:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:17:32Speaker 05

  He's been bad.

• 2:17:34Speaker 00

  He, I think he's two for seven on kicks 50 yards plus. Like, if he makes that kick, that, it was, that was the swing. He misses the kick. They don't go up six. And not only that, more importantly, the Broncos, which their offense wasn't like, like I said, under 300 yards, two for 11 on third down. It's not like they were able to just drive the length of the field like consistently. You gave them the ball at, at, at the, at the 50 yard line.

• 2:18:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:18:01Speaker 00

  And they went and scored. So the Broncos, they just, Bo Nix, fourth quarter, fourth quarter Bo. Fourth quarter Bo.

• 2:18:09Speaker 05

  Never count them out.

• 2:18:10Speaker 00

  It's crazy that they're like back into weird like Tebow universe.

• 2:18:14Speaker 05

  Never count them out. Yep.

• 2:18:16Speaker 00

  I don't, I still don't think he's very good, but it, but he wins games and if you can keep him close and he can get a little hot, it's nuts. Yeah, I mean, even the, the game winning touchdown, that was a, it was a nice pass, but it was a screen that he, that, that he like broke. Who was that? Was it Coleman? Yeah, Jonah Coleman broke it for 51 yards.

• 2:18:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:18:38Speaker 00

  It wasn't like some deep, deep bomb or some methodical drive down the field, but that's just what he does. That specialness of Bo.

• 2:18:44Speaker 05

  He played clean enough. Just when you think he, just when you think he's the worst quarterback in the league, that's when he's about to do something special.

• 2:18:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, and I, I am high on the Broncos. I do think they're very good just because of their defense and they, they find ways to win games. And it's just like, that's, I, I kinda throw out that first week loss to the Chiefs where they just played basically the worst defensive game they could possibly play.

• 2:19:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:19:07Speaker 00

  And then since then, they've been a very good team.

• 2:19:09Speaker 05

  You see Sean Payton and, uh, one of his assistants almost get into a fight on the sideline?

• 2:19:13Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:19:13Speaker 05

  That was great. I, I feel like that's when Sean Payton, that's when he comes alive.

• 2:19:17Speaker 00

  Getting angry, yeah.

• 2:19:18Speaker 05

  When people, when, when somebody yells at him on his own team, he likes that shit.

• 2:19:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:22Speaker 05

  He thrives in chaos.

• 2:19:24Speaker 00

  You do have, uh, you play them week 17, Hank. So that'll be, could be a significant game for seeding.

• 2:19:31Speaker 05

  Where's that?

• 2:19:32Speaker 00

  That is in New England.

• 2:19:34Speaker 04

  Nice.

• 2:19:35Speaker 00

  Not Mile High. Uh, okay. Last, last game, last question, uh, who's back, or, or sorry, row back question, R H O B A C K dot com promo code TAKE, 20% off your first purchase, Qzips, polos, hoodies, jogger shorts, rowback.com promo code TAKE. Max, where are you at with Nick Sirianni right now?

• 2:19:55Speaker 07

  I don't know. We got no players. It's hard. It's hard.

• 2:19:59Speaker 00

  But is this?

• 2:20:01Speaker 05

  It felt like you had something you were about to say and you didn't say it.

• 2:20:05Speaker 00

  I feel like you can't.

• 2:20:07Speaker 07

  Can't what?

• 2:20:09Speaker 00

  If you guys just don't win any other, like at some.

• 2:20:12Speaker 07

  I I'm looking, I'm looking at the at the schedule. I put the over under at one and a half.

• 2:20:19Speaker 00

  More wins?

• 2:20:20Speaker 07

  More wins.

• 2:20:22Speaker 05

  You guys don't have an NFL roster right now.

• 2:20:24Speaker 07

  We don't. Our offense.

• 2:20:26Speaker 05

  But your defense does. That's, that's what's concerning to me.

• 2:20:29Speaker 07

  I, everyone's hurt on offense. The defense has quit.

• 2:20:32Speaker 05

  Right.

• 2:20:32Speaker 07

  That's, that's. Jalen Carter did play much better today after he was horrendous last week. Um, he did get a sack. And he, and he, and he was blowing up the, the D line a little, but Jordan Davis still nowhere to be found. Cooper Jean was a little bit better today, but then like again, one, Andrew Cuba goes down. Um, that's another safety that, that we lost.

• 2:20:57Speaker 07

  Zach Bond doesn't look the same. He's getting older. I don't know. I don't know. It looks like that the defense has kind of given up. They, I, it was inflated a little bit, like it was nineteen, nineteen points for most of that game.

• 2:21:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:12Speaker 07

  And then, you know.

• 2:21:14Speaker 05

  It got out of hand.

• 2:21:14Speaker 07

  It got out of hand, but I, I think that they played well enough to win that game with a normal offense. But the offense is so bad and it's like, fuck, how it's, it must be so demoralizing for that defense to just, and I guess that's on Sirianni to keep it, to keep the defense engaged. I don't know. It's frustrating. It's, it's a season from hell. The offense sucks. Tanner McKee is not a very good quarterback. We're playing without our top two receivers, without our top five running backs. The O line is a problem, but I also think Tanner McKee. He's so bad in the pocket, like he almost like moves into sacks.

• 2:21:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:53Speaker 07

  Instead of, instead of like evading them.

• 2:21:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, he does.

• 2:21:56Speaker 07

  Which is something that like we took for granted with Jalen Hurts. Like so much because he's, he was, he's very good at getting, at, at getting out of the way. And then he normally just throws it away, but at least he doesn't take the sack. I don't know. Uh, Sirianni, like. I guess like the defense, you gotta keep the defense more engaged. Like that's your job as a head coach of like keeping the players in it, even though when.

• 2:22:21Speaker 07

  When things get tough.

• 2:22:26Speaker 07

  But it's tough, it, it's tough to like really judge a coach when. The amount of injuries that they've had is insane.

• 2:22:34Speaker 05

  Yeah. Do you think he's lost the locker room?

• 2:22:39Speaker 07

  That's, that's a question for the locker room.

• 2:22:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, you ask that question, locker room. PFT, what, can we pull up the odds, see the NFC East odds? I don't think you can rule out you guys having a chance.

• 2:22:50Speaker 05

  I don't want to do this to myself.

• 2:22:51Speaker 00

  Why not? Memes, memes thinks you've already done this to yourself.

• 2:22:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 2:22:55Speaker 07

  Hundred percent you've already done.

• 2:22:56Speaker 05

  Why, why, why do you say that? Why do you say that?

• 2:22:58Speaker 00

  That's what memes was saying.

• 2:22:59Speaker 02

  After we stopped recording on Riverside Tuesday night, he, him and Jacob were going back and forth.

• 2:23:04Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 2:23:04Speaker 02

  Scenarios. They're, they're locked in.

• 2:23:08Speaker 05

  That's not a plan. No, I know. It's one thing to discuss scenarios. It's another thing to be locked in and believe in the scenarios. I'm not hiding my feelings, memes.

• 2:23:17Speaker 02

  It's a podcast. Open up to the world.

• 2:23:18Speaker 05

  I'm not. Let's see, what are the odds for the, for the NFC?

• 2:23:21Speaker 02

  Plus five sixty.

• 2:23:22Speaker 05

  Plus five sixty and Cowboys, two thirty-five.

• 2:23:26Speaker 00

  I didn't know that memes, because memes was telling me, he's like, yeah.

• 2:23:29Speaker 05

  I did not. I, I.

• 2:23:30Speaker 00

  That's okay. Why not?

• 2:23:31Speaker 05

  Play the scenarios because I'll be completely honest with you. I don't think that the team is very good. What we watched tonight was. Two bad teams playing football against each other. Um, the commanders looked. Serviceable at times on offense. But still a shitload of penalties, a shitload of drops. Like I have, I, I can't remember watching a team that has this many pre-snap penalties. And we just can't figure it out for some reason when it comes to like illegal formations, all this stuff. We just keep getting flagged and it's taking away, it's throwing the offense out of rhythm. We never feel like we've got momentum going. The second half was pretty good. Um, but I just, I don't believe that the team is anywhere near close to. Being able to compete for a division right now. Granted, it's probably the worst division in football.

• 2:24:16Speaker 05

  Uh, but we have to have ground to make up. We're pretty far behind. We're two games behind the Giants and, uh, I think if you looked at the schedule from here on out, we've got some winnable games. But I also think that every game that I would label as being winnable would be one where the other team would look at the commanders and say, that's a winnable game for us. So yes, we should. Be able to beat the Titans. But the Titans are playing good now. Uh, we should be able to beat the Cardinals. Cardinals are playing good now. The Texans actually looked like dog shit, but they might be a different team by mid-December. And then, um, we finish out with the Falcons, the Vikings, the Jaguars and the Cowboys. So I don't think that, I think the, the hole is too deep.

• 2:25:00Speaker 05

  For the commanders to, uh, to win this division, even if we did, I would. Highly doubt that we'd be able to do anything to playoffs. So yeah, I'm not, it's great to win these games. I'm glad that, that we have, uh, Jaden's first win and what, like, how many days was it? Three hundred? Three hundred and ninety something days?

• 2:25:18Speaker 00

  Memes had the exact.

• 2:25:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, you did. You knew it real quick.

• 2:25:21Speaker 00

  He ripped it right in your face.

• 2:25:23Speaker 02

  It was three hundred and ninety-two.

• 2:25:25Speaker 05

  Three hundred and ninety-two days. So that, that's good. I'm glad, but as far as I'm concerned.

• 2:25:31Speaker 05

  If this team wins too many games, I think that would be. Possibly detrimental to the future of the, of the team because it's pretty clear that Dan Quinn, nice guy, really good defensive coach, great defensive coordinator. Seems like an awesome friend to have, uh, not really. Having the brain to be a head coach. I think we've got a brain problem. And.

• 2:25:57Speaker 00

  You never want to have a brain.

• 2:25:58Speaker 05

  And even if you win a bunch of games and you limp into the playoffs and you lose by fifteen points in the first round. Um, that is not going to make the brain problem go away. And I would love for Dan Quinn to be the defensive coordinator. He's just not a head coach. That's kind of where I'm at. So memes, truthfully. Technically it is possible for us to get in. I will get caught up if we, if we rattle off a few wins, absolutely. Hundred percent.

• 2:26:24Speaker 00

  If we beat the Rams next week.

• 2:26:25Speaker 05

  We beat the Rams next week, I'm back. And in fact, I think if we beat the Rams, Sean McFay would have to look at that and say, unfinished business. Maybe I come back to DC. Be their next head coach.

• 2:26:36Speaker 00

  Definitely.

• 2:26:37Speaker 05

  Definitely be a pretty attractive spot.

• 2:26:39Speaker 00

  Have to.

• 2:26:40Speaker 05

  Uh, if we beat the Rams, I'm all in. I'm balls deep in, in at that point. Uh, but I don't think that's going to happen. I think we got a long way to go.

• 2:26:50Speaker 00

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• 2:27:36Speaker 00

  Okay, Hank, who's back of the week?

• 2:27:38Speaker 04

  Uh, my who's back of the week is darkness. First one.

• 2:27:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:27:43Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 2:27:43Speaker 04

  Clocks turned back or forward?

• 2:27:46Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:27:48Speaker 04

  And now it's going to be dark at four o'clock.

• 2:27:50Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm. Yeah, real dark.

• 2:27:51Speaker 04

  Uh.

• 2:27:52Speaker 00

  Although it was getting a little, I, I don't like that we lose the, like, I, I don't like that it gets dark so early or, yeah, so early in the afternoon. It was getting a little crazy how dark it was when I woke up in the morning. I, I, maybe that's just me because I was waking up. Earlier, but like it would be seven o'clock and it'd still be dark. It's like, what the fuck? We need, we need some lightness here.

• 2:28:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:28:15Speaker 00

  Probably a personal problem. Probably a personal.

• 2:28:17Speaker 04

  You're gonna have the reverse this week where like you walk out of work at.

• 2:28:19Speaker 00

  No, I know. I know.

• 2:28:20Speaker 07

  No, I'm, I'm on your side because there were times where I would wake up. And I would look outside and be like, oh, it's pitch black. Like I still got like five more hours.

• 2:28:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:29Speaker 07

  And then I would look out and it would be like, oh, fuck, I got.

• 2:28:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, for love.

• 2:28:32Speaker 07

  Different for me than for you, but it would still be like.

• 2:28:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:34Speaker 07

  Oh, I only got one more hour. Like that sucks.

• 2:28:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, like for wake up bar stool, you open your eyes and it's, it looks like it's midnight outside.

• 2:28:41Speaker 07

  That's the worst. There's nothing worse than waking up when it's still pitch black.

• 2:28:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, my, my least favorite time of year would be.

• 2:28:46Speaker 00

  Every day.

• 2:28:47Speaker 05

  When, when I would have to go to work, um, and I would leave, it would be dark outside and then I would leave work to go home and it would be dark outside again. And then you would just never see the sun. That's a bummer of a time of year.

• 2:28:59Speaker 04

  Yeah. Hello darkness, my old friend. Uh, my other who's back is, is college basketball.

• 2:29:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:29:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:29:05Speaker 04

  I dressed up as the Pope last night for Halloween. Next time he fired up on, on the cats. I, I was, I was fired up on the cats and they just collapsed. Collapse in Rome.

• 2:29:17Speaker 07

  It's too early to be playing college basketball, but it was.

• 2:29:20Speaker 00

  You were so excited for this game.

• 2:29:22Speaker 07

  Yeah, well, I, I don't know, man. My football season fucking sucks. Thank God for the Sixers. They're a wagon. I was looking forward to this. I love Villanova basketball and they turned the ball over twenty times. Twenty turnovers.

• 2:29:34Speaker 05

  Fix that.

• 2:29:36Speaker 07

  Yeah, it's early and none of these guys have played together. It's hard to judge college basketball these days, like.

• 2:29:41Speaker 00

  Oh, definitely.

• 2:29:42Speaker 07

  None of these guys have played any basketball together.

• 2:29:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, the continuity is like early in the season. You just have no idea what to expect.

• 2:29:49Speaker 04

  It, it's kind of like, uh, it's kind of a tough look for, for Villanova, I think, to go all the way to Rome for this game and the Pope doesn't even show up.

• 2:29:57Speaker 00

  Oh, he didn't?

• 2:29:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, he had other stuff to do.

• 2:30:00Speaker 07

  I was arguing about this with other people. They did say. That it's probably tough for the Pope. To get to a basketball game on a Sunday.

• 2:30:09Speaker 04

  But then why'd they go to fucking Rome?

• 2:30:11Speaker 07

  That's a good question.

• 2:30:12Speaker 05

  It feels a little desperate on.

• 2:30:13Speaker 07

  I mean, yeah, yeah. Why does? Why does the NFL go, go to, to Europe?

• 2:30:19Speaker 04

  Not, not for one specific person.

• 2:30:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, look, it, it, it felt like.

• 2:30:23Speaker 04

  A wide range of people, new fans to the.

• 2:30:26Speaker 05

  Yeah. Grow the game. They already have a fan in the Pope and the Pope was like, uh, yeah, can't really make it. Hope you understand.

• 2:30:35Speaker 04

  Like, oh, like hit me up if you guys are ever in Rome and they're like, hey, we're here.

• 2:30:37Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:30:38Speaker 04

  And he's like, oh.

• 2:30:39Speaker 07

  I, I was, I was making this argument as well.

• 2:30:42Speaker 05

  He's like, I got some other plans.

• 2:30:44Speaker 07

  Do you think you would be able to go to this game if it was in Chicago on a Sunday? And I said, no.

• 2:30:49Speaker 04

  Yes, you would. If it was at eight thirty?

• 2:30:51Speaker 00

  Eight thirty in the morning, you would for sure.

• 2:30:53Speaker 07

  But it's, it's.

• 2:30:54Speaker 00

  But if you was, if it was eight thirty in the morning, you would have.

• 2:30:56Speaker 07

  Time change. I think, I think we're talking about time change right now.

• 2:30:58Speaker 00

  Eight thirty in the morning.

• 2:31:00Speaker 07

  But, but there's not.

• 2:31:01Speaker 00

  The Bears had Monday night football. Pope didn't have to watch that.

• 2:31:05Speaker 07

  What?

• 2:31:06Speaker 00

  Saying he could be at the game. I would assume that the Pope would, would, would miss Villanova on a Sunday because he wanted to watch the Bears.

• 2:31:15Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 2:31:15Speaker 05

  It sounds like the Pope doesn't really care about Villanova basketball.

• 2:31:18Speaker 04

  No.

• 2:31:18Speaker 05

  That's what, that's what Hank was saying.

• 2:31:20Speaker 07

  I think he's, I think he, he has other obligations.

• 2:31:24Speaker 00

  Maybe he was like, I don't wanna, I don't wanna go.

• 2:31:26Speaker 07

  He's the Pope.

• 2:31:27Speaker 00

  Maybe he's like, I don't wanna go root against Villanova.

• 2:31:29Speaker 07

  It's a Sunday.

• 2:31:30Speaker 00

  Against the way, uh, better like religious school in Notre Dame.

• 2:31:35Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:31:36Speaker 00

  He might've been rooting for Notre Dame. Notre Dame, they pray.

• 2:31:39Speaker 05

  It kinda reminds me of when, when Tom Brady was talking about the Super Bowl. He's like, I don't really have a dog in the fight.

• 2:31:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:31:45Speaker 05

  It's like, wait, I thought that you would. Cause like they asked the Pope about it. He goes, well, I grew up South Side Chicago. And so I, I heard go Irish all the time. And that, that was a team that I always kinda liked.

• 2:31:54Speaker 00

  The Pope turned his back on Nova.

• 2:31:55Speaker 07

  You just, you just made up that second part.

• 2:31:58Speaker 00

  But it could've.

• 2:31:58Speaker 05

  Wait, what?

• 2:31:59Speaker 07

  He said, that was the team that I kind of liked. Never said that.

• 2:32:02Speaker 05

  No, no. When they asked him about the Irish, he goes, growing up on the South Side of Chicago.

• 2:32:06Speaker 07

  You heard people say, go Irish. You added that was the team that I liked.

• 2:32:11Speaker 05

  Correct. That's not, that's not a direct quote, but he was saying that as an example of his admiration for Notre Dame. And then he followed it up with, and also.

• 2:32:19Speaker 07

  I graduated from Villanova.

• 2:32:20Speaker 05

  I graduated from Villanova. So he was saying, he's got a connection to both sides.

• 2:32:25Speaker 07

  He said that he has an opinion, but he's not allowed to, to speak on that.

• 2:32:28Speaker 05

  He said, he doesn't take sides.

• 2:32:30Speaker 07

  He said, the Pope doesn't take sides.

• 2:32:32Speaker 05

  Who's, and who's the Pope?

• 2:32:33Speaker 07

  And then he said, prevost has other opinions.

• 2:32:36Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:32:36Speaker 07

  And he, he is prevost.

• 2:32:39Speaker 05

  I thought he was the Pope.

• 2:32:41Speaker 07

  He is, they're.

• 2:32:43Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 2:32:45Speaker 07

  The Pope doesn't take.

• 2:32:46Speaker 05

  Mm, checkmate.

• 2:32:48Speaker 00

  Uh-oh.

• 2:32:49Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 2:32:49Speaker 07

  Alright, fuck you guys, man.

• 2:32:51Speaker 00

  Uh-oh.

• 2:32:52Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 2:32:53Speaker 07

  Let's talk about Jordan. When are we gonna do that?

• 2:32:55Speaker 05

  I was, I was.

• 2:32:56Speaker 07

  When are we gonna do that?

• 2:32:57Speaker 05

  My who's back, my who's back. True love.

• 2:32:58Speaker 07

  I, I don't know how that, we, we went through all of that and we didn't get.

• 2:33:02Speaker 00

  It's gonna be my who's back.

• 2:33:04Speaker 07

  Let's do it.

• 2:33:04Speaker 05

  Okay, who's back? Jordan's back.

• 2:33:06Speaker 00

  On the market?

• 2:33:07Speaker 05

  On the market.

• 2:33:08Speaker 00

  Maybe.

• 2:33:08Speaker 05

  Open for business, possibly.

• 2:33:10Speaker 00

  This.

• 2:33:10Speaker 05

  Allegedly. It, it, let me just say that if she is, um, spoke for, if there's still an item, all due respect to them. Um, I'll take back everything you're about to say.

• 2:33:20Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:33:21Speaker 05

  If they are broken up, is she the most eligible bachelorette in America?

• 2:33:27Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:33:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:33:29Speaker 05

  Number one?

• 2:33:32Speaker 00

  Hank, so the story came out that they've been broken up for a year. That doesn't make sense on the timeline. Would, can we all agree on that?

• 2:33:39Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 2:33:39Speaker 00

  Okay. Cause like, we interviewed Belichick in what, May? Pretty sure they were dating then.

• 2:33:44Speaker 05

  Well, she did, she did ask Bill about the cheesesteak.

• 2:33:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, right. So, and I think they were at like recruiting visits, like as late as August together, like at high school games.

• 2:33:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, but maybe she, maybe like their romantic relationship, you know, didn't work out. But Bill recognized her as like an asset to the program.

• 2:34:07Speaker 00

  That would make sense.

• 2:34:08Speaker 04

  And you know, he'll, he'll, he tries to make anything work.

• 2:34:10Speaker 00

  Okay, so.

• 2:34:11Speaker 04

  If you can, if you can be an asset to the team, he'll keep you around.

• 2:34:14Speaker 00

  So if, but if they did break up, whose side are you taking?

• 2:34:17Speaker 04

  Bill's.

• 2:34:18Speaker 00

  Oh, come on, dude. It's our queen.

• 2:34:22Speaker 05

  So you never really liked her?

• 2:34:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:34:24Speaker 04

  No.

• 2:34:25Speaker 00

  You're the guy who like bashes his friend's girlfriend the minute they break up. What if they get back together and you said all that shit?

• 2:34:30Speaker 05

  That's gonna be really awkward.

• 2:34:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:34:32Speaker 04

  I support whatever Bill's decisions he makes.

• 2:34:35Speaker 00

  Well, what if he got broken up with?

• 2:34:38Speaker 04

  Then fuck her.

• 2:34:39Speaker 00

  No, but that's not his decision. What if he wants to get back with her and then he gets back with her? You just said fuck her and then they get back together. That's gonna be awkward.

• 2:34:47Speaker 04

  I guess, but like I, I got my boys back. I don't know what you want me to say. I'll be like, sorry dude, I had your back.

• 2:34:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, but you don't wanna go too hard.

• 2:34:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, you shouldn't have said fuck her. That's fucked up.

• 2:34:56Speaker 04

  You said, you, you gave me a hypothetical.

• 2:34:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, if she broke up with, if she broke up with Bill, but Bill's still in love with her and they're gonna eventually get back together. Yet, but unfortunately they're gonna get back together and then Jordan's gonna be like, I'm gonna take you back, Bill. Bill's like, oh my God, thank God. I've, I wanted to be back with you this whole time. And then Jordan says, but one thing, can I play this clip for you? And then plays you saying fuck her.

• 2:35:23Speaker 04

  Well, then I would hope that she played the beginning where it showed the context. Bill's all about the context.

• 2:35:29Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:35:30Speaker 04

  You presented a hypothetical. I did not, I did not.

• 2:35:32Speaker 00

  You just.

• 2:35:32Speaker 04

  I did not say fuck her unprompted.

• 2:35:34Speaker 00

  Broke them up. If they weren't broken up before, they broke it up.

• 2:35:37Speaker 05

  I, I have a possible scenario here that I think would.

• 2:35:39Speaker 04

  In kind.

• 2:35:40Speaker 05

  Really make Hank sound like a jerk. What if they're in a secret relationship right now?

• 2:35:44Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:35:45Speaker 05

  That, which is very possible because it was such a headline grabber.

• 2:35:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:35:48Speaker 05

  And then, you know, she was, you know, always a kind of a distraction for Bill where they would ask him questions about her all the time.

• 2:35:54Speaker 00

  Could be a secret relationship.

• 2:35:55Speaker 05

  And so he might've said like.

• 2:35:57Speaker 04

  You guys didn't ask her questions about her.

• 2:35:58Speaker 05

  That's true. Neither did you.

• 2:36:00Speaker 00

  You had a chance to.

• 2:36:01Speaker 04

  I don't give a, I like, didn't, I wasn't worried about her. I was worried about asking about the Patriots.

• 2:36:06Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm. But all I'm saying is like, would it?

• 2:36:08Speaker 04

  You guys talk about her all the time.

• 2:36:10Speaker 05

  What if that's a strategy where he's just like.

• 2:36:12Speaker 04

  You guys were too scared to ask anything about her.

• 2:36:14Speaker 00

  She's a lightning rod. You were too.

• 2:36:16Speaker 04

  I don't like, I'm not, I never brought her up. She's not like someone that I have ever cared about talking about. You guys love talking about her.

• 2:36:24Speaker 00

  Cause we love her.

• 2:36:25Speaker 04

  But when presented the opportunity, didn't say a word.

• 2:36:27Speaker 05

  Because she's a philosopher and a business owner and an entrepreneur and a founder.

• 2:36:32Speaker 04

  Good for her.

• 2:36:32Speaker 05

  And a queen.

• 2:36:33Speaker 00

  So you don't like her.

• 2:36:34Speaker 04

  I do like her.

• 2:36:35Speaker 00

  No, sounds like you don't.

• 2:36:35Speaker 04

  I don't, I am not worried. I'm a sports guy. I'm not worried about this gossipy nonsense. Yeah. You guys are, are all caught up in the tabloids and then the gossip and then he said, she said, I'm worried about what's on the field. Yeah.

• 2:36:49Speaker 05

  Well, I'm saying, I think that this might be a, a play where they're like, let's pretend to break up so people stop asking me about you. And then I think the play worked because UNC is way better.

• 2:36:59Speaker 04

  They are, they should've fucking beat Miami.

• 2:37:00Speaker 00

  They should've.

• 2:37:01Speaker 05

  I know.

• 2:37:03Speaker 00

  They're right there.

• 2:37:04Speaker 04

  But yeah, they're playing good.

• 2:37:05Speaker 05

  Bill, Bill's locked in right now.

• 2:37:06Speaker 00

  Play good.

• 2:37:07Speaker 05

  Married to the game.

• 2:37:10Speaker 05

  I think they might even be married. It might be like a secret marriage, but let's just not tell the world.

• 2:37:14Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:37:15Speaker 05

  Let's tell everyone we broke up.

• 2:37:16Speaker 04

  And good for them. Happy for them.

• 2:37:18Speaker 00

  Max, what do you think about that? Do, do that satisfy your, uh?

• 2:37:23Speaker 07

  Yeah, that was good. I liked that.

• 2:37:24Speaker 00

  If, if fully, uh.

• 2:37:26Speaker 05

  No more Pope talk?

• 2:37:26Speaker 00

  Yeah. If it covered up the fact that the Pope turned his back on Villanova?

• 2:37:31Speaker 05

  Pretty much condemned them to hell.

• 2:37:34Speaker 00

  Do you win that game if the Pope's there?

• 2:37:35Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 2:37:37Speaker 00

  I think so.

• 2:37:37Speaker 07

  Yeah. I, yeah, probably.

• 2:37:39Speaker 00

  So then what the hell? Why is he not there?

• 2:37:42Speaker 07

  It's Sunday and he's the Pope.

• 2:37:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, but imagine like the fourth, like the, the start of the second half, like you hear an organ play.

• 2:37:49Speaker 05

  Yeah. Oh, like Steve Austin?

• 2:37:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, like.

• 2:37:51Speaker 05

  Pope shows up?

• 2:37:52Speaker 00

  It's Sunday and he's the Pope.

• 2:37:57Speaker 04

  How long does, what does he do? One service? Like quick hour?

• 2:38:00Speaker 05

  Can you imagine the pressure the referees would have felt if the Pope walks in?

• 2:38:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, he just sits there. He's like, yep, don't love that call.

• 2:38:08Speaker 05

  I guarantee they're all Catholic there.

• 2:38:09Speaker 00

  He just sits there with a little notepad?

• 2:38:11Speaker 05

  Yeah. What was your name again? All right, bless you.

• 2:38:16Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:38:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, bless your heart.

• 2:38:17Speaker 00

  Interesting.

• 2:38:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, Pope's gotta be there. It's really, it's sad for the university.

• 2:38:24Speaker 04

  What, ah, did you say like, this is the worst thing that's ever happened in Rome, Max? Or just disaster?

• 2:38:29Speaker 07

  I said disaster in Rome.

• 2:38:30Speaker 00

  Disaster in Rome.

• 2:38:33Speaker 00

  All right, my who's back was gonna be college basketball and Jordan. So I don't know what else to say.

• 2:38:39Speaker 05

  Do you, is there anything else to say about college basketball? What other games were there?

• 2:38:42Speaker 00

  Uh, High Point is playing Liberty right now. And then we have the 24 hour madness, I think on, uh, Monday, where, where I think there's a game at like two in the morning.

• 2:38:52Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:38:52Speaker 00

  And then, yeah, we're going, we're going. Love it. So excited. Oh, there we go. Uh, you know what? Who's back? Uh, MLB awards. They're gonna start rolling them out at the most random times possible.

• 2:39:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, Gold Gloves tonight.

• 2:39:06Speaker 00

  Gold Gloves.

• 2:39:07Speaker 05

  I love baseball.

• 2:39:08Speaker 00

  It's so stupid. They just, they're just like, oh, here's a day. Why don't we just throw an award at you? We're not gonna tell you when it's coming, what, you know, who's winning. We're just gonna throw it out there.

• 2:39:20Speaker 05

  Remember us? We're baseball.

• 2:39:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. Alright, Zach, finish this off.

• 2:39:23Speaker 03

  Uh, if we're talking baseball, my who's back of the week will be to talk comment sections, cause Bryce Harper was getting active.

• 2:39:30Speaker 00

  What?

• 2:39:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, you guys don't wanna, you're not gonna wanna talk about this.

• 2:39:33Speaker 00

  Why?

• 2:39:34Speaker 03

  There's a couple of comments. One commenter made a comment that was like, uh, I believe is new offseason's gonna be between March and October. Bryce Harper's like, it will be this year. So if he has any good info, he's saying no baseball all year next year. And then he also acknowledged that he prefers the rec, the offseason over the regular season.

• 2:39:53Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 2:39:54Speaker 03

  Somebody said Bryce acts like he enjoys the offseason more than the regular season. He said, this is true.

• 2:40:00Speaker 00

  Oh, no, Max.

• 2:40:03Speaker 07

  Let's talk about the, that there's not gonna be a season next year.

• 2:40:06Speaker 05

  That's what Bryce is doing.

• 2:40:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's talking to Snugglebear0808.

• 2:40:10Speaker 05

  Let's kick it to Bryce. Bryce, you have any comments?

• 2:40:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, Snugglebear0808 asked, it seems like March through October is the offseason. Bryce said, it will be this year.

• 2:40:21Speaker 05

  He also says that he likes the offseason more than the season.

• 2:40:25Speaker 07

  Negotiation tactic.

• 2:40:27Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:40:28Speaker 05

  That he likes not playing. He doesn't need to play baseball anymore. Yeah, no, that's.

• 2:40:31Speaker 00

  It's a good first try.

• 2:40:32Speaker 05

  That's a good point. That's a good point, Max.

• 2:40:33Speaker 07

  That was good.

• 2:40:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's, that's legit. What is, uh, what's the date when the lockout would officially start? Would that be?

• 2:40:42Speaker 00

  I think it's.

• 2:40:42Speaker 05

  Like early December?

• 2:40:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think the, the winners, the owners meeting is coming up. They moved it up. I think it's like December 1st or something.

• 2:40:51Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:40:52Speaker 07

  He also, do you remember there was like, I, I think, I don't know if it was this past year.

• 2:40:58Speaker 00

  He kicked out Manfred out of the.

• 2:40:59Speaker 07

  He kicked out Manfred of the clubhouse.

• 2:41:01Speaker 05

  That rocked.

• 2:41:01Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:41:01Speaker 05

  I love it. When, when he told him like, get the fuck out of our clubhouse.

• 2:41:04Speaker 07

  So I think he's pretty adamant against the, the no salary cap and is willing to.

• 2:41:10Speaker 05

  I mean, for.

• 2:41:10Speaker 07

  Fight.

• 2:41:11Speaker 05

  He's adamant against the salary cap.

• 2:41:12Speaker 07

  Yes, yeah.

• 2:41:13Speaker 05

  Yeah. One thing I didn't realize about baseball and whenever there's a lockout or anything like that, um, the lengths that they have to go to as a league, by the letter of the law. Uh, all the teams' websites will no longer feature pictures of the players.

• 2:41:27Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:41:27Speaker 05

  They'll all be like the generic gray avatars.

• 2:41:30Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:41:31Speaker 05

  Major league, the, uh, MLB network will not be allowed to use any players' names.

• 2:41:36Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 2:41:37Speaker 05

  Across their programming. So they're gonna have to figure out a way to do like months worth of original programming without saying the names of any ballplayers. That's gonna be fun to watch.

• 2:41:49Speaker 00

  Oh, man.

• 2:41:52Speaker 00

  It's not happening. We're gonna have baseball. I've decided that already. Started that already. We're fine. We're fine. Zach, finish us off.

• 2:42:00Speaker 03

  Uh, double finish off. Did you see that the? Did you see that the?

• 2:42:04Speaker 00

  What?

• 2:42:05Speaker 02

  That was his who's back.

• 2:42:06Speaker 00

  What?

• 2:42:07Speaker 02

  You're saying finish us off.

• 2:42:08Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, that was the, that was his back. I'm sorry. I got lost.

• 2:42:11Speaker 03

  Positive note, double finish you off.

• 2:42:15Speaker 03

  There's more stuff on the everything app saying the Bears stadium probably aren't to heights.

• 2:42:19Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, I, dude, that happened, uh, I think it was. It was always gonna be there. I've said it. It's, it was always gonna be there. Kevin Warren finally got kicked out of the meetings. Pat Ryan is the adult. He met with Goodell. He met with the Illinois lawmakers. Indiana was always a ruse, and I think, I actually think the problem was Kevin Warren fell for it. That was the issue.

• 2:42:42Speaker 05

  Well, his job. He did his job.

• 2:42:44Speaker 00

  No, but he fell for Indiana.

• 2:42:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:42:47Speaker 00

  He fell for the NFL being okay with the Bears moving to Indiana.

• 2:42:51Speaker 05

  Which is what makes it absolutely the best job that he, he could have done. Like, he bought into it. He was like, I've, I've got this great deal. And then the Bears were like, okay, we kept you in the dark this whole time, but that will do. You got us the most enormous amount of leverage we could ever ask for, so job well done, Kevin. Now, please leave.

• 2:43:08Speaker 00

  And then Goodell was like, uh, you guys aren't moving to Indiana. And, and then Pat Ryan, who's a minority holder in the Bears, who I think is, has the largest stake, that's not a McCaskey. He's, he's the one who built the new stadium at Northwestern. Great guy, and he basically was like, I'll take over from here. I'll be the adult.

• 2:43:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:43:25Speaker 00

  I'll meet with Goodell.

• 2:43:26Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 2:43:26Speaker 00

  Kevin Warren, you can just, you know, go, go, go do something. Go, go choose, uh, you know, what you're gonna put in each suite. What high top tables you're gonna put in each suite. And, yeah, they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna do Illinois. So. And Monday Night Football, I'm very excited. We'll see.

• 2:43:43Speaker 05

  Zach.

• 2:43:44Speaker 00

  Very.

• 2:43:45Speaker 03

  Finish us off.

• 2:43:46Speaker 00

  Finish us off, Zach.

• 2:43:46Speaker 03

  Monday Night Football preview, Bucks 24, Bears 7.

• 2:43:50Speaker 00

  That's Sunday Night Football.

• 2:43:51Speaker 03

  Sunday Night Football preview next week.

• 2:43:52Speaker 00

  Monday Night Football, Seahawks, Bears.

• 2:43:54Speaker 03

  My bad, you said Monday. I was thinking Sunday, where talking stadiums are gonna be here, as you can see.

• 2:43:58Speaker 05

  Zach. Zach, finish us off.

• 2:44:00Speaker 00

  Finish us off one more time.

• 2:44:01Speaker 03

  29.

• 2:44:03Speaker 05

  Oh, no.

• 2:44:04Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:44:04Speaker 05

  No. False start.

• 2:44:05Speaker 00

  False start.

• 2:44:07Speaker 05

  I'm gonna take 29, big cat.

• 2:44:08Speaker 02

  Nice. I'm gonna take 52.

• 2:44:10Speaker 03

  I'm gonna take.

• 2:44:11Speaker 02

  I'll take 23.

• 2:44:12Speaker 03

  10.

• 2:44:13Speaker 00

  18.

• 2:44:13Speaker 02

  4.

• 2:44:14Speaker 03

  13.

• 2:44:16Speaker 00

  69.

• 2:44:17Speaker 04

  7.

• 2:44:20Speaker 05

  Jacob, what were we saying with the scenarios? Ask him about that.

• 2:44:25Speaker 02

  He said, how about that loss this week?

• 2:44:26Speaker 05

  What, what was the, uh, what were the scenario talks that we were doing on Tuesday? Where memes was listening and like eavesdropping very rudely.

• 2:44:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, we just did a couple hypotheticals, like we almost beat the 49ers, and we're talking about how that was a close game.

• 2:44:39Speaker 00

  It's not a hypothetical.

• 2:44:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, if we beat the 49ers previously.

• 2:44:44Speaker 02

  But what was said, if you won tonight?

• 2:44:49Speaker 04

  We were saying that.

• 2:44:50Speaker 00

  These aren't bad things, by the way. Everyone should do this.

• 2:44:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, we, yeah, it was very simple stuff. Memes is overblowing it. We're just talking about what could have happened and what happened in the future.

• 2:44:59Speaker 05

  It was very highly retroactive, looking at games that we should have won and where we should have.

• 2:45:04Speaker 04

  The main point was we don't wanna win too many games because DQ's gotta go.

• 2:45:07Speaker 05

  There you go. There you go, memes. There you go.

• 2:45:10Speaker 02

  What?

• 2:45:10Speaker 05

  Fake news memes.

• 2:45:12Speaker 02

  That was the main message. Fake news, mania. Yep. If you win tonight.

• 2:45:16Speaker 00

  78.

• 2:45:18Speaker 04

  We can make a little bit of a run.

• 2:45:19Speaker 02

  78.

• 2:45:19Speaker 05

  That's, yeah.

• 2:45:20Speaker 00

  A little bit of a run.

• 2:45:21Speaker 04

  But we don't wanna make.

• 2:45:22Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 2:45:23Speaker 04

  Big enough of a run.

• 2:45:24Speaker 05

  Remarkably consistent.

• 2:45:25Speaker 04

  Because we want DQ gone. That was the main message.

• 2:45:29Speaker 05

  Memes, you're a messy bitch.

• 2:45:31Speaker 02

  I'm not a messy bitch. You guys, you guys are acting like losers.

• 2:45:34Speaker 05

  Trying to stir the pot, memes.

• 2:45:36Speaker 02

  Yeah. Max is a loser. I'm a loser. You guys are acting like losers.

• 2:45:41Speaker 03

  I'm a loser.

• 2:45:42Speaker 05

  Shane, also loser.

• 2:45:43Speaker 02

  Shane doesn't have a word.

• 2:45:44Speaker 05

  Justin Herbert, also loser.

• 2:45:48Speaker 00

  80.

• 2:45:49Speaker 05

  Also loser.

• 2:45:50Speaker 00

  80.

• 2:45:51Speaker 05

  Anyone?

• 2:45:55Speaker 05

  Happy birthday to Jordan Love. Happy birthday to Jimmy G, Jimmy Garoppolo. Happy birthday to Danny Amendola. Happy birthday to Nelly. And on Tuesday, happy birthday, Ohio State. Happy birthday to Tucker Kraft.

• 2:46:10Speaker 00

  Tuesday's his birthday?

• 2:46:11Speaker 05

  Tuesday's his birthday.

• 2:46:13Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 2:46:14Speaker 05

  Seems like a good time to maybe go on a vacation, a little trip somewhere.

• 2:46:18Speaker 02

  What? I took my headphones off.

• 2:46:19Speaker 05

  Happy birthday to Colin Kaepernick on Tuesday. Happy birthday to, uh, Phil Simms. Happy birthday to Tyler Hansbrough, Psycho T. Dolph Lundgren. And Kendall Jenner. Love you guys.

• 2:46:32Speaker 02

  Have you missed any in the past month?

• 2:46:34Speaker 05

  Prob, yes. I can say definitely, yes.

• 2:46:36Speaker 02

  Any on the show?

• 2:46:40Speaker 05

  I don't know, have I?

• 2:46:41Speaker 02

  You might have.

• 2:46:42Speaker 05

  Who?

• 2:46:44Speaker 02

  Colton.

• 2:46:45Speaker 05

  Did I miss Colton?

• 2:46:46Speaker 02

  It is Colton's birthday.

• 2:46:48Speaker 05

  When was his birthday?

• 2:46:48Speaker 02

  October 2nd.

• 2:46:49Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 2:46:51Speaker 05

  That's a, that's a month ago.

• 2:46:53Speaker 00

  You missed Colton's birthday?

• 2:46:55Speaker 05

  Did I not say Colton?

• 2:46:56Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:46:56Speaker 05

  Are you just guessing? Oh, no.

• 2:46:59Speaker 00

  You missed Colton's birthday?

• 2:47:00Speaker 05

  Happy birthday to Colton.

• 2:47:01Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 2:47:03Speaker 05

  Memes, you were also a month late.

• 2:47:06Speaker 05

  Love you guys.