CFB With Stanford Steve, Deshaun Watson Wants You To Stop Boo'ing, Preseason Week 2, Hank Went To The Last LIV Event Ever + Mt Rushmore Of Emojis

Deshaun Watson would like everyone to please stop boo'ing him as the Browns found a way to have a newsworthy preseason postgame press conference (00:00:00-00:13:23). We talk other preseason stories and are ready for real football (00:13:23-00:27:33). Hank attended the last LIV event ever in Indianapolis on Friday (00:27:33-00:54:44). Who's back of the week including Gruden + Big Cat has entered the NIL game (00:54:44-01:19:02). Stanford Steve joins the show to talk CFB, wings, Do we trust Oregon? Why Indiana feels disrespected again, Top 5 teams in the SEC and why its Notre Dame's year (01:19:02-02:22:20). We finish with Mt Rushmore of emojis. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Netflix. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take https://barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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  Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, August 24th and PFT. Will people please stop being mean to Deshaun Watson?

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  I thought that was pretty mean, uh, what Cleveland did, uh, which is booed Deshaun Watson again, even though they'd already booed him before and before that. And, uh, and then having Deshaun get up in front of the media and say, it has nothing to do with my play. It's personal. I actually think that it's, that's not true at all.

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  It's both.

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  I think it's both. I think there's, that's why they have to boo him so much is because it's not just personal.

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  Yeah.

• 3:57Speaker 03

  And it's not just the play. They got to cover all their bases.

• 4:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. Why can't it be both? But so.

• 4:03Speaker 03

  Quick question, big cat. Deshaun Watson, uh, better quarterback or human being?

• 4:09Speaker 00

  Tough one. Really tough at this point. Real tough.

• 4:12Speaker 03

  That's a tough one.

• 4:13Speaker 00

  That one is actually tough.

• 4:15Speaker 03

  Think about it, Hank.

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  Because he's so bad at quarterback right now.

• 4:19Speaker 03

  Really bad.

• 4:20Speaker 00

  Really, really bad.

• 4:21Speaker 03

  Very bad. And I feel dumb saying that maybe he'll put it all together this year and get back to being a decent quarterback.

• 4:27Speaker 00

  You still have time.

• 4:28Speaker 03

  We still have time.

• 4:29Speaker 00

  You still have time. But, but so the, the big story preseason week two happened, which again, I, I cannot, like, I just can't care about preseason anymore because they, they're now switching it all up where when the rhythm used to exist where you're like, you build, you build, you build. I tuned into the Bears game. I, I got to watch Caleb Williams for one drive. Joe Burrow didn't play. I was like, wait, but Joe Burrow played last week. There's just no rhyme or reason. It's driving me nuts. I just get me to the real season. But in the most Cleveland Browns, uh, way possible, the Cleveland Browns are the only team, I think, who can have a preseason, post game press conference, take over the

• 5:12Speaker 00

  entire internet, like have an actual, this is a problem. What the fuck is going on? Because not only did Deshaun Watson say, hey, guys, please stop booing me. His full quote was, I think the whole world knows it has nothing to do about, uh, the performance. It's a little bit more personal than that. So I think it's a disrespectful thing again. It's Sean. It definitely is about, if you were, if you were fucking crushing it right now, if you were slinging the rock, if you were Texans, prime Texans, Deshaun, I think a lot of Browns fans and every fan base for that matter would look the other way.

• 5:45Speaker 03

  I think that, uh, if, if Deshaun, if he was crushing it right now, I think the Browns fans might not be booing as much.

• 5:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They would look the other way.

• 5:55Speaker 03

  But I think that, I think every other fan base would be booing.

• 5:59Speaker 00

  I'm saying every other, if, if Deshaun was on any other fan, every fan base.

• 6:03Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 6:04Speaker 00

  If you had a quarterback with the personal matters of Deshaun, if he played great.

• 6:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:09Speaker 00

  You'd look the other way. That's how sports fandom works.

• 6:11Speaker 03

  By now you would.

• 6:12Speaker 00

  We all have a sliding moral scale and it essentially is, is the guy good? And is he playing for my team? And then you can just decide from there.

• 6:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. It's the old quote that, uh, that some team would have drafted Hannibal Lecter if his 40 time was fast.

• 6:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. So after Deshaun did that, then Todd Monkin came up and basically was like, yeah, that guy's an idiot. And he said, how does it feel to get booed? It sucks. I don't want to get booed, but it comes with the territory. You don't want to get booed. Let's play good football. Let's play good at quarterback. Essentially saying, hey, Deshaun, it actually is all about performance. And, uh, yeah, every, I mean, it was, it was like Deshaun Watson. I, he has to be the least sympathetic figure that has ever been like, please start, stop being mean to me.

• 6:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:57Speaker 02

  It's like if, if, uh, Aroldis Chapman, like when it did the same thing.

• 7:02Speaker 00

  Aroldis Chapman, a very good case of a guy who, if he's wearing your jersey, you're like, well, he throws fucking 100 miles an hour in the ninth inning.

• 7:10Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 7:10Speaker 00

  He's been on a lot of teams.

• 7:12Speaker 03

  You would get balls deep in, in the legalese of it and be like, you know, actually the victims said this, this, and this, and we're can't did this many statements.

• 7:19Speaker 00

  Oh, he's never, he was never, he was never convicted.

• 7:21Speaker 03

  You would know the ins and outs of that, of that case.

• 7:23Speaker 00

  That's, yeah. You, the Browns fans would be like, he was never convicted.

• 7:26Speaker 03

  Exactly. Like that goes, it's, it's across sports. It's across platforms, college NFL. You become pretty much a lawyer if one of your best players is accused of doing something heinous and you learn down to the nitty gritty and you're like, I'm going to, you can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

• 7:42Speaker 00

  It was, I saw one person throw out the hypothetical. He's like, it's crazy how, how we like pick and choose who gets redemption arcs. And they're like Kobe Bryant, uh, look, everyone looked the other way. Tiger Woods, everyone looked the other way. Michael Vick, everyone looked the other way. Tiger Woods and Kobe Bryant are two of the best athletes in their respective sports. And Michael Vick went to prison.

• 8:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:04Speaker 00

  So, yeah, it's a little different. Deshaun Watson is, uh, not been good. He's been injured, but he's, I, the, the weird thing is like, there's a, there's a weird, not like argument for Deshaun, but a weird like world where he could have maybe said something that was not as tone deaf. Basically like, if he had just been like, hey, I'm trying my absolute hardest. I've been injured and like, it sucks that I, I haven't been able to put it back together. I just like support would mean the world. I think it would have, it would have at least resonated a little bit, but to be like, yeah, they're, the Browns fans are personally booing me and it's not fair. Dude, no one gives a fuck.

• 8:45Speaker 03

  Yeah. You can't, you can't pull the, it's not fair. Woe is me right now. You can't be like, oh, I need to worry about my mental health too.

• 8:51Speaker 00

  Oh, he also said he has no regrets.

• 8:52Speaker 03

  He's like, I'm just a small bean at quarterback. Please don't boo.

• 8:55Speaker 00

  He said he has no regrets, which is crazy to say that. I have no regrets in my life.

• 8:59Speaker 03

  There's also a big part of those other cases that you mentioned, especially the Mike Vick case, which is, uh, apologizing.

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  Yeah.

• 9:07Speaker 03

  Which is taking accountability.

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  Yeah.

• 9:09Speaker 03

  Which is saying, hey, I fucked up. I fucked up really bad. There's been nothing out of that with Deshaun. Like we haven't heard any of that. So of course no one's going to like, feel bad for the fact that people are being mean to you as you're, by the way, they're being mean to you as you're skating through guaranteed $200 million.

• 9:28Speaker 00

  Correct. I like this one too. The only time I feel that energy is when I'm in the stadium or it's on social media. When I'm in public, no one mentions anything. Yeah, no duh dude.

• 9:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  And we're all cowards.

• 9:38Speaker 03

  But also.

• 9:39Speaker 00

  No one's going to walk up to you and boo you, although that would be funny.

• 9:41Speaker 03

  But also.

• 9:42Speaker 00

  Respectfully, if they booed him from like across the street.

• 9:44Speaker 03

  In the stadium, that's, that's pretty public.

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  I, I can't stress this enough. The, the biggest losing argument any athlete could ever have is fans shouldn't be booing me. That is our right as fans, whether it's, whether it's right, like that, like the booing is, is validated or, or justified. That's a totally different discussion, but if fans want to boo, like this happened with, uh, Kyle Tucker coming back to Wrigley and everyone's like, oh, you know, we shouldn't be booing. It's my right. If I want to boo him, I can boo him.

• 10:16Speaker 03

  Yeah. And also.

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  You can do whatever you want as a fan. If he, as long as you're not like actually doing anything to harm someone, you could boo.

• 10:22Speaker 03

  That's, that's the thing that if you ask, a hundred percent of the time, if you ask fans to not boo you, they're going to boo you so much harder.

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  Like it's going to be so loud.

• 10:31Speaker 03

  That is a, a losing strategy, uh, since the beginning of time.

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  Yeah.

• 10:35Speaker 03

  Don't, please don't boo. Like please clap. No, they're going to, they're going to boo your ass.

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  But we are, we have the right as fans to boo.

• 10:42Speaker 03

  We do.

• 10:42Speaker 00

  That's just a fact. We, we, we can, we can boo when we want to boo.

• 10:45Speaker 03

  There's new stadiums opening up. There's, uh, 2,500, $10,000 personal seat licenses we have to pay. Jerseys cost three times as much and they're five times shittier than they've ever been. Uh, parking is five times more expensive than it's ever been.

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  Every new stadium.

• 11:02Speaker 03

  Everything sucks.

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  Paid by tax dollars.

• 11:05Speaker 03

  Everything sucks about like the new, uh, in investments in sports teams and there, there's never been a, a worse time to be a fan when it comes to getting every dollar wrung out of you possible. But at the end of the day, they can't tell you to stop booing. That's the only thing you got.

• 11:21Speaker 00

  We will boo.

• 11:21Speaker 03

  And, and the booing will continue. And I'm sorry, Deshaun, that you feel like you're having a mental health because people are booing you. It's very sad.

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  Go cry to your money, dude.

• 11:30Speaker 03

  Guess what? You just get through the season. You don't even have to, you could, it would probably do everybody a favor if you were just like, ow, my hand hurts. I don't feel like practicing because my hand hurts. And then they sit you, you don't play any games this year, you still get paid. And then you can just go move off in the mountains somewhere and never bother anybody.

• 11:50Speaker 00

  Yes, the, the Don Legreca, that was memes was, was, was thinking I was gonna say that, that's an all time rant. Yeah, boo him. Boom, when you see him at the ball.

• 11:59Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. The sideline interview with Shador was, was bizarre. He talked about forgetting being a captain or not knowing what it meant to be a captain, which actually, now that I think about it, I'll give him some grace on that because they didn't have captains at Colorado.

• 12:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:13Speaker 03

  They had leaders and they had dogs.

• 12:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:15Speaker 03

  And so he, he had the L on his chest.

• 12:16Speaker 00

  Not his fault.

• 12:17Speaker 03

  Not the D on his chest like Max is experiencing on sex vacation.

• 12:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:22Speaker 03

  Um, but so I'm, I'm gonna give him a pass on that one. Uh, but the weird thing is Todd Monkin is, he like made a statement saying they're going to announce who the starting quarterback is on Monday.

• 12:33Speaker 00

  Monday.

• 12:34Speaker 03

  So it's like prime time. It's like, he's a little bit of a showman.

• 12:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:38Speaker 03

  That Todd Monkin.

• 12:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:39Speaker 03

  He's like, we get the spotlight to ourselves. I'll give you the announcement. Um, and it'll be, it'll be compelling must see press conference.

• 12:46Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  From me, Todd Monkin.

• 12:47Speaker 00

  So Deshaun, yeah, I, listen, I didn't think he had a good PR team, uh, to begin with, but you just can't say that. You can't say that, that like it hurts to be booed because now they're just gonna boo even more.

• 13:02Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 13:02Speaker 00

  And they should. Browns fans, it's, the Browns defense is gonna be really good this year. And yet again, they're gonna be in a situation where their offense is going to stop them from winning games. And if they have like just an average quarterback, they could be a, a, a, actually good team this year. Like, I do think their defense would be that good.

• 13:23Speaker 03

  Yeah. What do you think Jared verse is thinking right now?

• 13:25Speaker 00

  Dude, Jared verse is gonna have an awesome year. Jared verse is gonna be a menace for the Browns defense. They have good guys on all three levels. And yet again, they're gonna be like, we just need a quarterback who can complete like a simple pass.

• 13:37Speaker 03

  Like going from, going from the Rams that are so buttoned up that have everything together, a quarterback that's played for the last, seems like 40 years, just being, uh, the most consistent guy. Now he's in, he's probably thinking, maybe I can go back to Florida State.

• 13:50Speaker 00

  Well, he's from Dayton, so.

• 13:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:52Speaker 00

  He's, and he doesn't have to pay the same taxes as he does in, uh, Flor- or in LA.

• 13:57Speaker 03

  That is true. Maybe FSU is, is willing to let me back because they also, the Browns are just like the epicenter of NFL news today.

• 14:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:05Speaker 03

  Because they also had, had a guy.

• 14:07Speaker 00

  It's impossible to make a, a, a week two preseason, post game press conference this explosive.

• 14:13Speaker 03

  No.

• 14:13Speaker 00

  But the Browns did it.

• 14:14Speaker 03

  No, they did. And then they've got a guy going back to, uh, back to college.

• 14:17Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 14:17Speaker 03

  After playing in the preseason. So Daquan Wright is, uh, I guess going back, he's going to LSU.

• 14:25Speaker 00

  So I have a question about this. Uh, it's broken and we all can agree the system's broken. Well, I don't really, I'm kind of like at the point where I'm just tired of even complaining about it being broken because I don't know what to say.

• 14:37Speaker 03

  It's like, yeah, we, we know that it's broken at this point, but, but there's some, there's some moments where it still surprises you how broken it is.

• 14:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:45Speaker 03

  And I think one of those would be after a preseason to have a guy go back to LSU.

• 14:49Speaker 00

  Well, and it like.

• 14:50Speaker 03

  Or go to LSU.

• 14:51Speaker 00

  It's, it's broken for a million different reasons. The one thing that I think doesn't get talked about enough is how much it sucks for the guys on various rosters around college football that are expecting like, this is finally their time. And then another like court ruling or some weird thing happens. And it's like, oh, actually, a bunch of guys are now gonna come back to college and you're not gonna get the opportunity you thought you were gonna get.

• 15:18Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 15:18Speaker 00

  It sucks. It sucks. They gotta fix it. I, when you declare, I think Dan Lanning said it, but like, when you declare for the draft, when you get drafted, when you suit up in an NFL uniform, that's it. It's over.

• 15:29Speaker 03

  This is.

• 15:29Speaker 00

  You cannot go back to college. Same with college basketball. When you play in the summer league, it's over. You're, you're not playing in college basketball anymore.

• 15:36Speaker 03

  This guy did a, a summer internship with the NFL and then he's going back to college.

• 15:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:42Speaker 03

  I've got an idea for maybe how to fix this, big cat.

• 15:44Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 15:44Speaker 03

  Tell me what you think about this. Um, at the end of every preseason in the NFL, guys that are, uh, one year out of college, their first year out of college rookies.

• 15:55Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 15:55Speaker 03

  You might call them. Um, after the preseason, they go into a big pool. And out of that pool, you then have a draft where college teams can then draft NFL players to go back to school.

• 16:11Speaker 00

  That would be interesting because then you also run the risk of like, oh, you, you didn't think you could make it the NFL, uh, get ready to learn Purdue.

• 16:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly. Like.

• 16:23Speaker 00

  West Lafayette.

• 16:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're, you're going to Minnesota.

• 16:25Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 16:26Speaker 03

  Enjoy. Like that.

• 16:28Speaker 00

  I like that.

• 16:28Speaker 03

  That could be.

• 16:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:29Speaker 03

  Like, oh, maybe only, only the power conferences.

• 16:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:33Speaker 03

  You can draft you back.

• 16:34Speaker 00

  You flip it the same way you do a draft. It's the worst record, gets the first pick.

• 16:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. So if you finish at the bottom of your conference.

• 16:41Speaker 00

  Oh man, imagine if we.

• 16:42Speaker 03

  You're like, well, I had the first.

• 16:43Speaker 00

  Tanking.

• 16:44Speaker 03

  I've got the first overall pick in the NFL to college draft next year.

• 16:48Speaker 00

  College football tank.

• 16:49Speaker 03

  That would be so.

• 16:49Speaker 00

  That would fuck everyone up even more.

• 16:51Speaker 03

  That, I think the place where we're at right now, it's not, we're not there yet, but we're like only two stops away from that being a reality.

• 17:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

• 17:01Speaker 03

  That's how crazy close we are.

• 17:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:03Speaker 03

  It is weird, but yeah, the Browns just continue.

• 17:06Speaker 00

  Well, we're also like my, one, the idea that I've had forever that I've talked about on the show is like being able to have one guy who's a legend of a program be able to go, uh, in infinite eligibility where Tim Tebow could play for the Florida Gators this year. We're pretty close to that too.

• 17:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:20Speaker 00

  Which I, I think that would be fine. If, if, if we're gonna mess things up, let's at least mess it up in a fun way where we can get some of these guys, like these legends, playing forever. Like Diego Pavia would be a great all time college football quarterback. He just never graduates. He plays another decade in college football. That would be great for the sport. That'd be fun. But you know, the, we're, we're in this weird middle ground where it just sucks.

• 17:46Speaker 03

  And I guess there's, there's no such thing as tampering. You got college coaches that can like contact NFL teams.

• 17:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:53Speaker 03

  Try to get their players and, and they can't get in trouble for that. It's, it's bizarre.

• 17:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. It is, it is very weird. We also, uh, so the other stories out of, out of week two, uh, uh, preseason, we gotta turn injuries off. Ashton Gentey looks, looks like a bad, I don't think we have a full report, but he was carted off, couldn't put any weight on his leg.

• 18:14Speaker 03

  The players all took a knee and prayed.

• 18:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:16Speaker 03

  That's not a good sign.

• 18:17Speaker 00

  So that sucks. Uh, also, I, I don't know about you guys, but, uh, the fantasy football league that I'm commissioner in, we, we draft like literally the night before the season because of this.

• 18:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:29Speaker 00

  You can't, you can't draft right now.

• 18:31Speaker 03

  You have to go the week of.

• 18:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:33Speaker 00

  Early drafts.

• 18:34Speaker 02

  This is, this is the week where like you, if you're drafting before this week, you're, you're forcing it.

• 18:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. And you're gonna have something like this.

• 18:42Speaker 02

  Even this upcoming week is a little early.

• 18:44Speaker 00

  No, I think you have to wait till after the third preseason game.

• 18:47Speaker 02

  The next two weeks is when it's appropriate.

• 18:49Speaker 00

  Tyler Beattie also out for the season. Shane, you're in the booth. That's why I mentioned it. Turn injuries off.

• 18:54Speaker 04

  It's, it's getting to a point where it's just like, it's just so fucking ridiculous at this point. Don't even know how to, the sick irony of life.

• 19:03Speaker 00

  Well said.

• 19:03Speaker 04

  The sick irony of life.

• 19:05Speaker 00

  Wait, I don't know if that's.

• 19:06Speaker 03

  The sick irony of life.

• 19:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:08Speaker 03

  It is true.

• 19:08Speaker 02

  How's it ironic?

• 19:09Speaker 00

  I don't think it's ironic.

• 19:10Speaker 04

  That it just keeps happening over and over again. God brought LT into my life just to.

• 19:15Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 19:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:16Speaker 00

  Oh, you're talking about personal irony.

• 19:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:18Speaker 03

  God, wait, so God brought LaDainian Tomlin into your life?

• 19:21Speaker 04

  To like tease me, oh, be a Chargers fan just for me to torture the rest of your life.

• 19:25Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 19:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:26Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 19:26Speaker 03

  No, it's your, and Philip Rivers.

• 19:28Speaker 00

  Shane, did I ever tell you that I had?

• 19:29Speaker 03

  God's actually been pretty good to you.

• 19:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:31Speaker 04

  Not, not really. Cause you just, you get, you get brought to the, the precipice of greatness just to.

• 19:37Speaker 00

  That.

• 19:37Speaker 02

  Is the divisional round of the playoffs, the precipice?

• 19:40Speaker 00

  This is why Hank said, Hank said, we need Shane in the booth. This is why.

• 19:45Speaker 04

  Shane, I. Hank saw fucking, uh, chat GPT shirt and just had to.

• 19:48Speaker 00

  Wait, that wasn't a real shirt?

• 19:51Speaker 04

  It was a real shirt, but the design was chat GPT.

• 19:53Speaker 03

  Wait, Shane, my question was gonna be, how many times did, did Philip Rivers beat Tom Brady?

• 19:58Speaker 04

  I don't, I don't know.

• 19:59Speaker 00

  Question, Shane.

• 20:00Speaker 03

  Was it zero?

• 20:01Speaker 00

  Shane, question.

• 20:02Speaker 04

  What's up?

• 20:02Speaker 00

  When you say chat GPT shirt, was it, was the shirt?

• 20:06Speaker 04

  Design was.

• 20:06Speaker 00

  What do you mean the design? But it was a real shirt.

• 20:09Speaker 04

  The shirt was real.

• 20:10Speaker 00

  Someone had to.

• 20:11Speaker 04

  The design on it.

• 20:12Speaker 00

  Someone was wearing the shirt.

• 20:14Speaker 02

  You're our chat GPT Shane.

• 20:15Speaker 04

  That's not true.

• 20:16Speaker 00

  Why are you searching Madison Beer?

• 20:18Speaker 02

  Zach.

• 20:19Speaker 00

  We're talking Chargers.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 20:22Speaker 04

  This is good.

• 20:23Speaker 02

  Nice work.

• 20:24Speaker 00

  All right. Wait, no, we want to see the shirt. The shirt was outrageous, but.

• 20:29Speaker 04

  I don't understand, like, why?

• 20:31Speaker 00

  Shane, is the shirt real or not? When you say chat GPT shirt, I'm.

• 20:34Speaker 04

  Like, the shirt is real itself, but it was just, the design of it was just chat GPT. I don't, what is the confusion here?

• 20:42Speaker 00

  I don't understand what the.

• 20:43Speaker 04

  The shirt is real. The design is real. The, the design printed on the shirt. You're getting hung up on the wrong stuff. I don't, I don't.

• 20:51Speaker 00

  I don't think I am.

• 20:53Speaker 03

  Chad, this is, this is a legitimate question here.

• 20:57Speaker 04

  It's called. I don't understand, like, the Chargers and the Patriots aren't rivals. Why did someone go out of their way to make the shirt? Like, it's not even a competition.

• 21:05Speaker 02

  It's hilarious.

• 21:05Speaker 00

  Can you please describe the shirt?

• 21:07Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, I'm listening at it right now.

• 21:09Speaker 00

  Zach's never gonna find it.

• 21:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, it says, it's got Tom Brady on the front. It says, the rings, the legacy, Patriots versus Chargers rivalry, two thousand one through two thousand nineteen. A tribute to Tom Brady and Philip Rivers. That's the.

• 21:20Speaker 04

  This is not a rivalry.

• 21:22Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, you got, that's a good point.

• 21:23Speaker 04

  True.

• 21:24Speaker 03

  Then on the back, it says, eight games, eight wins. Thank you, Phil. And then it lists the eight games that the Chargers played against the Patriots and the Patriots won all eight of them. And then it says, Tom Brady, eight versus the goat.

• 21:40Speaker 04

  Why don't we do the last five years, pussy?

• 21:42Speaker 00

  So that?

• 21:43Speaker 04

  What?

• 21:44Speaker 02

  Who's a pussy?

• 21:45Speaker 03

  Are, am I a pussy?

• 21:45Speaker 02

  Henry.

• 21:46Speaker 03

  Whoa, yeah, okay, yeah. Why don't we do the last five years, pussy?

• 21:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:50Speaker 02

  All right, let's check that record.

• 21:51Speaker 04

  Pussy?

• 21:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:52Speaker 00

  Didn't you lose some in the playoffs last year?

• 21:54Speaker 04

  Okay, but like, that's just one.

• 21:59Speaker 00

  Oh, man. So, so the shirt's real, though. The chat GPT?

• 22:02Speaker 04

  Shirt's real.

• 22:03Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 22:05Speaker 03

  But it's also, it looks like it might have been AI at some point. And it was fed through an AI prompt.

• 22:13Speaker 04

  All right, the, the, the stats aren't as good as I thought they were gonna be.

• 22:15Speaker 00

  What are they?

• 22:17Speaker 04

  Don't worry about it.

• 22:17Speaker 03

  Oh, no, this isn't going.

• 22:18Speaker 00

  Five times, two.

• 22:20Speaker 04

  Two and three, two and three.

• 22:21Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 22:22Speaker 04

  But if we don't count that, if we don't count that playoffs.

• 22:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, if we don't count the playoffs, pussy.

• 22:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, who cares about the playoffs? Playoffs don't matter.

• 22:28Speaker 04

  That's true.

• 22:29Speaker 02

  Print the shirt.

• 22:30Speaker 04

  Forty to seven, that was, that was a great win.

• 22:32Speaker 00

  Ah, good, good injury news. George Kittle is somehow off the pup list, which he's just a beast. I love George Kittle. We all love George Kittle. I don't know how he's off the pup list. He tore his Achilles like eight months ago.

• 22:44Speaker 03

  He's a, he's a beast and.

• 22:45Speaker 04

  Peptides, bro.

• 22:46Speaker 00

  Less than that, wasn't it less? What? No, it's about eight. It was what? It was January?

• 22:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:52Speaker 03

  It's January.

• 22:52Speaker 00

  Eight months ago.

• 22:53Speaker 03

  I mean, they, we, we said with the divorced guy that likes in and out, that, you know, the electromagnetic fields, they use electro stim for muscle recovery.

• 23:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:02Speaker 03

  So maybe like it's a double edged sword. The substation hurts you, but also heals you faster.

• 23:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's, that might be the case.

• 23:09Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 23:10Speaker 00

  Uh, Joe Milton looked good.

• 23:11Speaker 03

  Joe Milton looked awesome.

• 23:12Speaker 00

  I actually watched and I, I'm not a Joe Milton believer, but he was throwing with touch on the pass. And I was like, I've never seen this before.

• 23:18Speaker 03

  Yes, I love, I love Joe Milton so much. That's a quarterback battle for the ages right now. Joe Milton against Sam Howell.

• 23:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:25Speaker 03

  Apparently, as good as Joe Milton's playing, Sam Howell's been playing good too. Uh, but that arm, everybody should want that arm.

• 23:32Speaker 00

  Special.

• 23:32Speaker 03

  Everyone should want.

• 23:33Speaker 00

  Zuka Joe.

• 23:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:34Speaker 00

  I also have a take.

• 23:35Speaker 03

  He threw the orange a hundred and six yards.

• 23:37Speaker 00

  I do not give a fuck about Harrison Bucker's sixty nine yard field goal in preseason.

• 23:42Speaker 03

  Well, that's the thing is, the, the only storylines coming out of preseason football anymore are kickers drilling long field goals and then getting super excited about them.

• 23:51Speaker 00

  Because Hank, to answer your question, I want to see a team have the balls to attempt that in a real game. Like preseason, like, you could do anything, you know what I mean? Like, it's, it's, who cares? I just don't, I don't respect it. Like, it was a cool kick, but I'm not like, oh, my God, this is so incredible.

• 24:09Speaker 02

  You don't believe that people, people are, I saw some people saying, like, if, if we have kickers hitting seventy yard field goals, like, we're gonna have a problem in the league.

• 24:16Speaker 00

  No, they're not gonna attempt it.

• 24:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's fair. That's, that's a fair, that's a fair point.

• 24:20Speaker 00

  Because the, the, like, the chances of him hitting it in a real game and then the flip of the field.

• 24:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:29Speaker 02

  If you were tied in a game in the fourth quarter and you had your kicker proved that he could hit a sixty nine yard field goal, you wouldn't want them to try?

• 24:37Speaker 03

  A hundred percent, yeah, you do. I think, I think a coach would. To, to win the game?

• 24:42Speaker 00

  I, it would have to be, it would have to be the end of, yeah, like, the end of half.

• 24:46Speaker 02

  No, like, like, like, three minutes left.

• 24:49Speaker 00

  I don't think they'd do it.

• 24:51Speaker 03

  I think with Aubrey, they might.

• 24:53Speaker 00

  Indoors, you have to tell me down a distance as well. Like, obviously, I just.

• 24:59Speaker 02

  Fourth and six.

• 25:00Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 25:01Speaker 02

  Three minutes left, one timeout, tie game.

• 25:05Speaker 03

  Yes, I would try it. If, if you have a kicker like Bucker, that can do it. And this looks like it was good by, like, five yards, four or five yards. And Aubrey, he hit a seventy yarder and it probably looks like it could be like seventy five. Yeah, I would, I would a hundred percent let them do it. Also.

• 25:22Speaker 00

  I mean, it was awesome when Janikowski got to attempt that was like seventy six yarder.

• 25:26Speaker 03

  It was the.

• 25:26Speaker 00

  That was so sick.

• 25:28Speaker 03

  It was the worst field goal you've ever seen.

• 25:29Speaker 00

  But I respect that, attempting that in the regular season. I just, preseason, I just can't get that excited about.

• 25:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, kickers love it.

• 25:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:36Speaker 03

  But, um, yeah, it's just.

• 25:38Speaker 00

  I guess Cam Little, what is, what's his record? Sixty eight? So, seventy six yarder.

• 25:44Speaker 03

  It was so good.

• 25:45Speaker 00

  We should ask Lane about that.

• 25:47Speaker 03

  I forgot that he was the coach for that.

• 25:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:49Speaker 03

  I think Janikowski probably told him before the game, I'm good from eighty.

• 25:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, I got this. I got this, coach. Don't you worry. Look how far back he is. He's standing on the, on the thirty five, thirty three yard line.

• 25:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:59Speaker 04

  You guys asked him about it the very first interview.

• 26:02Speaker 00

  Okay, thanks, guys. That means we did a good job.

• 26:03Speaker 04

  You did.

• 26:04Speaker 00

  Fuck, yes. What'd he say?

• 26:06Speaker 04

  Uh, I think he just laughed about it. He's like, yeah, you know, one of those things.

• 26:09Speaker 00

  Sounds like it was a great interview by us.

• 26:11Speaker 03

  What are those? Was there any follow up at all on that question by us?

• 26:14Speaker 04

  No, you guys just had a great time, both laughing.

• 26:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:17Speaker 03

  Yep, you said it, coach.

• 26:17Speaker 00

  Really fucking good shit. All right, any other, any other?

• 26:21Speaker 03

  He missed it wider than I think he did short. That was a crazy kick.

• 26:24Speaker 00

  I know. Uh, all right, any other, uh, week two preseason thoughts or notes or anything? Just get us to the regular season.

• 26:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, we just.

• 26:33Speaker 00

  Fucking ready.

• 26:34Speaker 03

  We just gotta get.

• 26:34Speaker 00

  I'm so ready. I want real football.

• 26:37Speaker 02

  Labor Day is really just fucking everything up.

• 26:39Speaker 00

  It's my, my brain just cannot compute the fact that it's, we still have like three weeks till Labor Day?

• 26:46Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 26:47Speaker 00

  Or two weeks, two weeks. But yeah, we have like something we have to do the week before Labor Day. And it, it like messed me up. I was like, oh, shit, that's then.

• 26:55Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 26:56Speaker 00

  They should make that illegal too.

• 26:58Speaker 02

  What?

• 27:00Speaker 00

  Making Labor Day all the way till the seventh. It has to be, it has to be like the third or earlier. I don't know how they could do that with calendars, because I guess it would just be the first Monday.

• 27:09Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 27:11Speaker 00

  Someone's gotta get on that. Someone's gotta work on that. Um, I don't know what they can do.

• 27:16Speaker 03

  Klay Thompson, he's a Heat.

• 27:19Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, that's not that football, but yes.

• 27:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's, he's a Heat.

• 27:21Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 27:22Speaker 03

  So there's that.

• 27:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:24Speaker 03

  But yeah, it's, um, we need, we need big news to happen.

• 27:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:28Speaker 03

  Just any sort of big news.

• 27:29Speaker 04

  Falcons fourth string quarterback balled out.

• 27:31Speaker 03

  Who's that?

• 27:32Speaker 04

  Jack Strand.

• 27:33Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 27:34Speaker 04

  I saw, I saw that on Twitter. He was balling.

• 27:36Speaker 00

  Okay. Balling?

• 27:37Speaker 04

  He's a, he's a.

• 27:37Speaker 00

  Good for Jack Strand.

• 27:38Speaker 04

  D two guy.

• 27:39Speaker 00

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• 28:22Speaker 00

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• 28:57Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 28:57Speaker 00

  Would you?

• 28:58Speaker 02

  I have a question for you too. I have a golf question for you.

• 29:00Speaker 00

  Oh, great, okay. Uh, would you like me to ask one, two, or three?

• 29:05Speaker 02

  Two.

• 29:05Speaker 00

  Questions? You'd ask, let me ask the second question.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  Names, three?

• 29:09Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  Or one?

• 29:13Speaker 00

  You were doing a little joke about Mount Rushmore. I like that. That was funny. Uh, which question would you like me to ask?

• 29:18Speaker 02

  Two.

• 29:18Speaker 00

  Two. All right. Uh, Zach, is it true that you had two hot dogs, a hamburger, three transfusions, and jalapeno poppers at the turn on Saturday?

• 29:27Speaker 04

  Uh, mostly true. I had jalapeno poppers for breakfast, so those weren't at the golf course.

• 29:32Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 29:33Speaker 04

  At the turn.

• 29:34Speaker 03

  That's a, that's a decent order.

• 29:35Speaker 02

  You got two transfusions at the turn?

• 29:37Speaker 00

  Three, no, three transfusions, two hot dogs.

• 29:40Speaker 02

  For yourself?

• 29:41Speaker 00

  And then went back for a hamburger.

• 29:42Speaker 04

  It's eighteen holes.

• 29:44Speaker 03

  At, how long did this take you?

• 29:46Speaker 04

  Uh, decently quick.

• 29:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, but why don't you just get them like, like, get one when you get there, get one at the turn? Like, you got them at once?

• 29:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, because no, no car girl out. So at the turn, I was like, well, we just gotta go. I'm not the best golfer, so I'm just trying to have a great time while we.

• 30:01Speaker 00

  I love that.

• 30:01Speaker 02

  Fair, yeah, it's a great, great, great point.

• 30:03Speaker 03

  When you get three transfusions at once, you, you have one cup holder in front of you, maybe two. Like, where, where do you put all of them?

• 30:11Speaker 04

  So one, you go in the cup ice, one second cup holder, third one goes in the basket.

• 30:15Speaker 00

  What happened?

• 30:17Speaker 03

  Oh, was it a can? It was like a pre-made?

• 30:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:18Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 30:19Speaker 03

  All right, got it.

• 30:20Speaker 00

  What, Zach, what happened with the two hot dogs you ate and then you went back after to get a hamburger?

• 30:25Speaker 04

  I got two dogs in the store and then while I was.

• 30:27Speaker 03

  The hot dog that the burger smelled fantastic.

• 30:31Speaker 00

  Okay. And then also, uh, I heard that you, you are like the fastest golf player of all time. You don't even think about a shot. You just get out, hit it.

• 30:40Speaker 03

  I mean, I'm not very good, so pace of play is important.

• 30:45Speaker 02

  If you're not gonna play good, play fast. That's, that's the, the greatest thing you can do is.

• 30:49Speaker 03

  You can be bad and fast.

• 30:50Speaker 00

  I just heard that order, a jalapeno poppers for breakfast, two hot dogs, a hamburger, three transfusions at the turn. And I was like, damn.

• 30:56Speaker 02

  That's a great Saturday.

• 30:59Speaker 03

  Might be in on golf.

• 31:00Speaker 00

  All right. Liv, Hank.

• 31:03Speaker 02

  I did, I did, I did.

• 31:07Speaker 00

  Was that the last live event ever?

• 31:10Speaker 02

  It was the last live 1.0 event. Uh, I drove down Friday morning, me and Dom and I'm, I was expecting. I don't know what I was expecting. I was expecting maybe more of like a sad vibe, maybe more of like, you know, everyone that was there kind of. Feeling like this was, this was it. This was the end.

• 31:27Speaker 03

  Who would a sad live event feel like? What, what kind of music would they be playing?

• 31:31Speaker 00

  Pants.

• 31:32Speaker 03

  Yeah. Celine Dion.

• 31:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, like maybe like, uh, like the end of, end of, uh, school year. Or maybe like, maybe like a, a football team, like you had a good, you had a good team, good season. You had a disappointing end of the season. No, I'm talking about, I'm talking, I'm just, I'm, I'm giving you an example of what I was expecting it to feel like. I was expecting to feel like a, a team that like felt really good, had a great regular season and then like, like. Blew a game in the playoffs and then the next day they have to go in and like clean out their lockers. And so they're all kind of like there. They're all like, oh, you know, good year, but like they're sad, like they're, the vibe is down, but they're still, you know. There.

• 32:11Speaker 03

  We'll always have the memories.

• 32:13Speaker 02

  It was not like that at all. It was, it was business as usual. The four aces rolled out the red carpet. Uh, got to go hang out on the range, meet all the players. They were, they were thanking me for being a great ambassador for the team, for the sport, for, for the league. They like live, live 2.0 is coming. They're, they're, they got high expectations and. I do too now. Yeah.

• 32:37Speaker 00

  Question.

• 32:38Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 32:38Speaker 00

  Uh, are you opening to questions?

• 32:40Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 32:40Speaker 00

  Uh, you said you got to meet all the players. Were you able to tell Dustin Johnson that you actually have met him before?

• 32:46Speaker 02

  I did and.

• 32:47Speaker 00

  Was he still standing there when you told him that?

• 32:49Speaker 02

  Barely.

• 32:52Speaker 00

  I mean, it's. The report I got was you went up and it was the quickest interaction of all time.

• 32:56Speaker 02

  I, I talked to his brother AJ for a while. Like he came up when, when Dustin Johnson was warming up and, and we shot the ship for like 15 minutes. DJ, the, the, the guy that worked for the four aces like. Ran over to him and then like pointed to me and then like basically told Dustin Johnson, he had to shake my hand, which this is like. And then Dustin Johnson was like, yeah, what's up, buddy? Gave me basically like a Signetti handshake. As he's walking, I was like, oh yeah, like we actually, uh, we played together. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think he even like, he acknowledged that we did. I don't, I still don't think he remembers it.

• 33:30Speaker 00

  He didn't know that you are the four aces.

• 33:32Speaker 02

  No, no, no, God, no.

• 33:34Speaker 00

  Were the twin Thomases at least?

• 33:36Speaker 02

  The, the twin Thomases were there, uh, and, and they said, you know, the four aces guy was like, hey, this is, you know. Again, like he's introducing me to all the players. Like, oh, you got, uh, cause again, the four aces like really appreciated the support that we've given them. They were calling everyone over in any relation to the four aces, being like, you gotta meet this guy. He is like the biggest four aces ambassador we have. And he's like, hey, Thomas, Thomas Peters was first. He's like, hey, Thomas, this is the guy that came up with the, uh. The twin Thomases. And he was like, what? Nine 11? Like had no idea what he was talking about. He's like, yeah, no, it's bars. I think he's like, oh, okay, cool. Uh, shook my hand and then, and Thomas Dietrich basically said the same thing where he, he said the same line, like this is the guy that, well.

• 34:19Speaker 02

  It's twin Thomases or, or Tom Towers? I forget.

• 34:23Speaker 03

  You gotta be careful. Around the Saudis saying.

• 34:26Speaker 02

  Well, I said twin Thomases. I said, no, twin Thomases is what I said. He said, hey, this is a guy that came up with the Tom Towers. And the guy and. And Tom, Thomas Peters was like, uh, nine, like what? And I was like, no, no, no, twin Thomases. He's like, oh, okay, cool. Uh, and Thomas Dietrich had basically the same reaction. He, the, the guy corrected himself. He called it the twin Thomases. And, and once again, he was like, I don't, I don't know what you're saying, but like, what's going on, man? How are you? So they were cool. They were, they were cool to me. Did not, did not, did not know our talk about them from the podcast, but they were nice guys. Yes. PFT.

• 34:58Speaker 03

  Uh, who won?

• 35:00Speaker 02

  Uh, Michael Isasso. So huge, huge for live, big signing. He won the, uh, US national championship in college last year. He had, by winning that, you get to play in the masters. He gave that up to join live, join the high flyers.

• 35:14Speaker 00

  Choice.

• 35:15Speaker 02

  Had a really bad year. I mean, he won a ton of money.

• 35:17Speaker 03

  How much?

• 35:18Speaker 02

  A ton, although I think they cut the purse in half.

• 35:21Speaker 00

  Also, are they gonna pay him?

• 35:22Speaker 02

  I possibly.

• 35:26Speaker 03

  I mean, half of a theoretical large amount of money.

• 35:29Speaker 00

  A, a really sick IOU.

• 35:32Speaker 02

  So one of the youngest, yeah, one of the.

• 35:33Speaker 00

  He's actually the number one stakeholder in live.

• 35:36Speaker 02

  One of the youngest stars in golf beat out John Rahm on a, on a Sunday. That's, that's exciting.

• 35:40Speaker 00

  That is exciting. It's super exciting.

• 35:43Speaker 02

  Club.

• 35:43Speaker 03

  John Rahm was told that he would only have to play three days.

• 35:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's true. Uh, club 54, they're like, they're, they're hospitality suite. Best food I've ever had. Best, best, best food of any sporting event I've ever had. Just, just all class. They had sushi. They had. Sandwiches. They had like cold cuts. They had it all. Uh, really, really good food. Lot of AWLs. It was kind of awkward. I ran into, I'm sitting next to the two representatives of the four aces and some drunk AWLs came up and were like. Liv is fucking dead, huh Hank? And I was like, no, no, no. And they were like, no, this is a fucking joke. And it was like, it was very awkward.

• 36:20Speaker 00

  So you had to defend live in front of them.

• 36:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, I was like, no, look around. You're here. They're like, yeah, I came. Yeah. Well, and I was like, like, they're like, yeah, we came after work. I'm like, dude, it's 12 o'clock. Where the fuck do you work?

• 36:33Speaker 02

  Uh, that was awkward. That was, that was extremely awkward.

• 36:35Speaker 03

  He, he won $2 million.

• 36:36Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 36:37Speaker 02

  That's great.

• 36:37Speaker 03

  So not bad.

• 36:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:40Speaker 00

  So overall, but very excited about live?

• 36:45Speaker 02

  It was, it was fun. It was a good time. There was a lot of people there. I was going because I was like, you know, again, it's been a, a running joke on the podcast for a long time. I was like. This is probably the last event of all time. Got to show face at one of these. And then as we were there, I was like, I don't know. I might've jumped the gun. Like I think, I think this thing's, I think I was like, I was telling Don, I was like, fuck. Like I'm gonna have to keep this going. Cause I feel like this is gonna keep being a thing next year.

• 37:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:13Speaker 02

  Which I wouldn't have gone if that was the case, but I digress. Yes. PFT.

• 37:18Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah. Hank, I'm curious, cause when I asked you who won, I obviously was asking about the team format because that's what separates live.

• 37:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. Uh, four aces, by the way.

• 37:28Speaker 03

  What team won?

• 37:29Speaker 02

  I was there on Friday, the four aces combined 18 under. Unbelievable day. Uh, all four of them. They kind of fell off on Saturday and Sunday.

• 37:39Speaker 00

  What does that mean? Kind of fall, fall off?

• 37:41Speaker 02

  They came in like sixth place as a team. They were in first.

• 37:44Speaker 03

  They went minus 13, minus 18, plus one, minus two.

• 37:47Speaker 00

  How many teams?

• 37:48Speaker 02

  10, I think.

• 37:50Speaker 03

  13.

• 37:50Speaker 02

  13.

• 37:51Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 37:53Speaker 02

  The Legion, Legion 23, John Rob's team ran away with it.

• 37:57Speaker 03

  Is it Legion? I thought it was Legion 13.

• 37:59Speaker 02

  Legion 13, Legion something.

• 38:01Speaker 00

  The best part about live is that.

• 38:03Speaker 02

  Is it Legion 13?

• 38:04Speaker 03

  XIIII.

• 38:06Speaker 00

  The best part about live is they actually like, it's not only a golf league that is about.

• 38:11Speaker 03

  I know Superbowl math. I'm pretty sure that's, that's 13, right?

• 38:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think it's 13. But the best part about live is it's, it's not only a golf league that's about to fold, but they also named all their teams. Like they were nightclubs that are about to fold as well.

• 38:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:26Speaker 00

  Like Legion 13 beats the, the, the four aces.

• 38:30Speaker 03

  Fireballs.

• 38:30Speaker 00

  Oh shit. Oh, oh, that building? Yeah. It used to be the four aces. Now it's Legion 13. Next week it's gonna be a new one.

• 38:38Speaker 03

  Next week it's gonna be Korean. Korean golf club.

• 38:41Speaker 00

  It's gonna be the, what is it? The goats?

• 38:43Speaker 02

  Range goats. I got to see Phil. I mean, uh, Baba, that, that was probably what my one note, they did. I got straight up asked what live could do to in, increase like viewership and.

• 38:56Speaker 00

  I've literally done everything I can.

• 38:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was, I said more lefties.

• 39:00Speaker 00

  I'm only one man.

• 39:01Speaker 02

  They need more lefties. There was like two on the range. They need more lefties.

• 39:06Speaker 03

  What about, um, if they wore shorts?

• 39:10Speaker 02

  They should wear shorts. They should be able to go back to shorts. They should probably go back to, to, to three rounds. Cause you know, club 54. Doesn't make a lot of sense if it's a 72 hole tournament.

• 39:19Speaker 03

  They thought about making it louder?

• 39:21Speaker 02

  It was loud. There was a lot. Did you see the flyover? There was, there was a sick flyover. There was music blasting the whole time.

• 39:27Speaker 03

  Get a video?

• 39:28Speaker 02

  I posted the video of the flyover. Yeah.

• 39:29Speaker 03

  Oh, did you tag me?

• 39:31Speaker 02

  Dustin Johnson tee shot. Uh, I, I actually thought it was like, uh. You can, what, you can tell me what type of plane this was. I legitimately thought this was a, uh.

• 39:39Speaker 00

  Can PFT figure out the plane with just the sound?

• 39:45Speaker 02

  No, you can see it.

• 39:45Speaker 03

  Is there, there's video of it?

• 39:47Speaker 00

  No sound though. That would be, that'd be next level.

• 39:49Speaker 03

  That would be.

• 39:51Speaker 00

  Sounds like a great day. And you got to see your windmills on the way down to Indy.

• 39:55Speaker 02

  Lot of windmills, lot of windmills not doing shit, although they were cooking on the way back.

• 39:59Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. So, so, so maybe the wind picked up?

• 40:01Speaker 02

  Maybe.

• 40:03Speaker 03

  That flyover, um, that looks, that looks like just a straight up Boeing 737.

• 40:08Speaker 02

  That's what I thought it was. Yeah. That's what I thought it was.

• 40:10Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, that, that was just. That was just a plane that was about to land. That wasn't a flyover.

• 40:16Speaker 02

  No, Dom told me, that's what I said. I was like, what timing for that, that, Dom said that was a real flyover. It was like some type of military plane.

• 40:23Speaker 03

  Okay. May, maybe the Poseidon then? I don't know.

• 40:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's a, that's a Spirit Airlines Tucson to Indy.

• 40:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:31Speaker 00

  Connection. So great time.

• 40:34Speaker 02

  Great time. I got you guys gifts too.

• 40:36Speaker 00

  Oh, let's go.

• 40:37Speaker 03

  Love it.

• 40:38Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 40:40Speaker 00

  I can't wait to see what gifts Max gets us.

• 40:42Speaker 03

  I love, I love the, uh, hashtag that Hank came up with. Live Lockwood.

• 40:46Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 40:46Speaker 03

  That was pretty good.

• 40:47Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 40:48Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah, it looks like, I mean, Hank's kind of selling me. I think I think Liv might be back.

• 40:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, that'd be great if we just got into Liv right before it ended.

• 40:56Speaker 03

  The pop Hank after the flyover was really, that was the best part.

• 41:00Speaker 00

  Oh, my God, I'm looking at that hat. It's so.

• 41:03Speaker 02

  Uh, there was, there was, did you see the other two? The other two bad live stories that came out this week?

• 41:09Speaker 00

  No.

• 41:10Speaker 02

  Sergio, uh, remember he destroyed the T box at the Masters?

• 41:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:14Speaker 02

  They said that was legitimately like a huge seminal reason why the PIF like was like, we're out of live. Because he, he desecrated a T box at the Masters.

• 41:26Speaker 00

  Yikes.

• 41:27Speaker 02

  And then Harold.

• 41:28Speaker 03

  I could actually see like the one people, the one group of people that could have power over the public investment fund. Would be the board at Augusta.

• 41:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:36Speaker 03

  Like, we need to have you divest in this, in this startup league. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

• 41:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, that, that right there is just a guy who, like, he, he was on live. He thinks there's no rules anymore. That's a bad look for golf.

• 41:51Speaker 02

  And then Harold Farner and the OKGC, Oklahoma GC, Taylor Gooch's team. They got kicked off of a golf course because they showed up. They asked, they had a foursome, they showed up 30 minutes late, they showed up with six people, said, can we play in a six some? They said, no. But we'll accommodate you, we'll put you in two threesomes. They went out, played like four holes. Once they were away from the clubhouse, they converged into a six some. And people complained and then they got kicked off the course.

• 42:22Speaker 00

  Also, baby Bryson's back.

• 42:25Speaker 02

  What? How so?

• 42:26Speaker 00

  Bryson kicked a media member off.

• 42:27Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 42:29Speaker 00

  The range.

• 42:29Speaker 03

  He's videotaping him on the range.

• 42:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:31Speaker 03

  But he was credentialed.

• 42:32Speaker 00

  Pretty sad.

• 42:33Speaker 03

  Kind of what he was there to do.

• 42:34Speaker 00

  I think it was the Monday Q guy.

• 42:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:36Speaker 00

  Good. Yeah. I like that guy. We met that guy when we do the corn fairy event.

• 42:40Speaker 02

  All right. So, Big Cat, I know you love coffee.

• 42:42Speaker 00

  Oh, four aces.

• 42:44Speaker 02

  So I got you a beautiful, uh, four aces coffee mug.

• 42:47Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 42:48Speaker 03

  That's really nice.

• 42:49Speaker 00

  This shit's gonna go for a lot in like 10 years.

• 42:51Speaker 02

  PFT, I know you love, uh, disgustingly gross hats.

• 42:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 42:55Speaker 02

  So I got you this hat.

• 42:56Speaker 00

  That one.

• 42:56Speaker 03

  So Big Cat saw this across the room. It was like, that's a PFT hat. I gotta be honest with you, Hank. Um, this looks like. I don't know how, but there was a guy that went to my high school that got kicked out and then he came back and he would ride his bike. Outside the cafeteria every day at lunch, selling weed to all of us back when I was a senior and he was wearing this hat.

• 43:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:19Speaker 03

  I don't know how he got it, like a time traveler.

• 43:20Speaker 00

  But that does fit you.

• 43:22Speaker 03

  It does. Yeah, it's kinda.

• 43:23Speaker 00

  I think it's got some sweat stains on it already.

• 43:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's great. Thank you.

• 43:26Speaker 00

  Did you wear that hat, Hank?

• 43:28Speaker 02

  No.

• 43:29Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 43:29Speaker 00

  Did you see the sweat stains?

• 43:31Speaker 03

  Feels like it was maybe game worn.

• 43:33Speaker 00

  Feel like you wore that hat.

• 43:34Speaker 03

  Definitely a sweat stain.

• 43:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, I feel like you wore that hat, Hank.

• 43:36Speaker 02

  Not wear that hat.

• 43:37Speaker 00

  Fucked up. Okay, what, what's that one?

• 43:39Speaker 02

  Uh, Zach, I know he just got into golf, so I got him, uh, it's, it's a putter head cover with all of the live teams on it.

• 43:46Speaker 00

  That would've been funny if you just brought back like some jalapeno poppers from the live. What's that?

• 43:52Speaker 02

  I honestly got this for myself.

• 43:53Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. You got yourself a gift.

• 43:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, I got myself a bunch.

• 43:56Speaker 03

  Do you want to trade for this hat?

• 43:59Speaker 02

  Would you wear this?

• 44:00Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 44:00Speaker 00

  It's not, no, I won't. Pre-worn. The hat. Did you get anything for memes?

• 44:05Speaker 02

  Uh, yes.

• 44:06Speaker 00

  Did you get anything for Max?

• 44:08Speaker 02

  Max isn't here.

• 44:09Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 44:10Speaker 02

  Uh, memes. I got this rip at JC.

• 44:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:14Speaker 02

  Banner.

• 44:15Speaker 03

  For memes?

• 44:17Speaker 02

  For memes.

• 44:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, I love the rippers.

• 44:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:19Speaker 02

  And then for Zach, I got this four aces banner.

• 44:22Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 44:23Speaker 02

  And then for Shane, I got Shane and Jacob, I got, uh, shot glasses.

• 44:27Speaker 00

  Colton?

• 44:29Speaker 02

  And Colton.

• 44:32Speaker 02

  I got, uh, I got high flyers, sunglasses.

• 44:35Speaker 00

  Oh, nice.

• 44:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, that rocks.

• 44:37Speaker 00

  Were they just, the, now, I assume you'd have to buy in it.

• 44:40Speaker 02

  I bought all this.

• 44:41Speaker 00

  Really?

• 44:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:41Speaker 00

  They actually were selling it still?

• 44:43Speaker 02

  Guess how much all of this was? Guess.

• 44:45Speaker 00

  $25.

• 44:46Speaker 03

  Let's see, we got a hat, we got.

• 44:47Speaker 02

  Give a real guess.

• 44:49Speaker 00

  No, that wasn't a real guess.

• 44:50Speaker 02

  With this, this shirt as well.

• 44:51Speaker 00

  I would assume everything's 99% off.

• 44:54Speaker 02

  Still, just guess how much.

• 44:56Speaker 03

  You got the socks too?

• 44:57Speaker 02

  I got socks as well, yeah.

• 44:59Speaker 03

  I think you probably paid $120 total.

• 45:02Speaker 02

  200 bucks.

• 45:03Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 45:03Speaker 03

  Pretty good.

• 45:04Speaker 00

  Good deal. Great deal. All right, so good weekend.

• 45:07Speaker 03

  So we think that they might be back after a whirlwind weekend like.

• 45:10Speaker 02

  Bryson afterwards said like, he again, like I, I, we'll see how it goes. I don't know how much, how much longer I can keep this going. But Bryson was like, we got, we got exciting things coming. I wish I could say more.

• 45:23Speaker 00

  Was he talking about his YouTube channel?

• 45:25Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 45:28Speaker 02

  He was talking about the future of Liv.

• 45:29Speaker 03

  Did he say that to you?

• 45:30Speaker 02

  No, he said that on a, a post-round interview today.

• 45:33Speaker 03

  Oh, did, now, maybe he's talking about the equity that he thinks they owe him.

• 45:37Speaker 02

  Maybe. No, he said he was excited for, for Liv 2.0.

• 45:40Speaker 03

  Um, did you see him at all?

• 45:43Speaker 02

  Uh, no, Bryson, we were at the range for like an hour and a half. He came very late, had like five balls and then went out to the first tee.

• 45:50Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 45:51Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 45:51Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 45:53Speaker 00

  That was our live up.

• 45:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, definitely not the most controversial thing that happened in online golf this weekend, so that's good.

• 45:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, true. I have a question for Big Cat, a golf related question. Big Cat, uh, as a father of three, how bad is hand, foot and mouth disease?

• 46:08Speaker 00

  Uh, it is really bad if you get it as an adult. As a kid, it's, it's, it sucks for the kid, but every kid really. It's like, it's actually like the new chickenpox where I feel like every, all three of my kids got it.

• 46:19Speaker 02

  How?

• 46:19Speaker 00

  As an adult, it's like the most painful disease.

• 46:22Speaker 02

  Is it contagious?

• 46:23Speaker 00

  Yes, very.

• 46:24Speaker 02

  So is.

• 46:25Speaker 00

  No, it, it's very contagious between kids, not as contagious to adults. Like I was around my kids when they had it and I didn't get it.

• 46:32Speaker 02

  Is Scotty a bad guy for playing while dealing with a kid having hand, foot and mouth disease?

• 46:37Speaker 00

  Contagious.

• 46:37Speaker 02

  Cause I saw some people saying that. Scotty, after his round today, said he's been dealing with, uh, hand, foot and mouth disease this week with one of his children.

• 46:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:47Speaker 02

  And people were saying that it's problematic that he was playing.

• 46:49Speaker 00

  Wait, but is he saying he has it?

• 46:52Speaker 02

  He's been dealing with it, is what he said.

• 46:54Speaker 00

  But is he dealing with his kids or him?

• 46:55Speaker 03

  Blisters on his hands and throat.

• 46:58Speaker 00

  No, but is he talking about his kid?

• 46:59Speaker 02

  No, him.

• 47:00Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. Oh, very difficult to grip the club. Yeah, it's not very contagious between adults, but yeah.

• 47:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, I had it last year. I got it from my nephew. Yeah, from my nephew. I had a mild case and it was like right after the beeve had it and Kate might've had it too. And then I was asking the doctor about it. They're like, yeah, adults usually don't get this at all.

• 47:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:22Speaker 03

  But then I was like, that's, that can't be true because I know like five adults that have had it in the last six months. But yeah, it sucks.

• 47:30Speaker 00

  Every kid gets it though.

• 47:31Speaker 02

  But not problematic to play with it.

• 47:32Speaker 00

  I don't, I mean.

• 47:33Speaker 03

  It, it golf, you're.

• 47:35Speaker 00

  He's by himself.

• 47:36Speaker 03

  Yourself in most part.

• 47:37Speaker 00

  Caddy knew.

• 47:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:38Speaker 00

  Whoever he's playing with.

• 47:39Speaker 02

  I, I legitimately did know.

• 47:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, it's, uh, yeah, adults can get it, but I don't think they pa, it's not passed the way, like I said, I was with my kids the entire time they both had it. I never got it. So, but yeah, it sucks. Definitely sucks.

• 47:52Speaker 03

  It, how'd he shoot?

• 47:54Speaker 02

  Not great.

• 47:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:55Speaker 00

  Don't stop, Zach. Why are you, oh, he's Googling it.

• 47:59Speaker 03

  Cause like it can mess up your hands, so if.

• 48:01Speaker 02

  And your feet.

• 48:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, if his hands had it.

• 48:03Speaker 00

  And your mouth.

• 48:04Speaker 03

  But if his hands had a lot of it, that would be very, very tough to play golf, I would imagine.

• 48:08Speaker 00

  The, uh, Wyndham Clark one, where, where are we in the playoff?

• 48:13Speaker 02

  Next, this is second to last week. Next week's the last one.

• 48:15Speaker 00

  Am I wrong in saying the PGA playoffs make no sense to me?

• 48:19Speaker 02

  Yeah. They change every year.

• 48:21Speaker 00

  Oh, no, no, so I'm right.

• 48:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, they, they make no sense.

• 48:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, and it also like you can, there's like automatic qualifiers the next round, like they don't have to play for.

• 48:31Speaker 02

  It's top 75, then it gets cut to top 50, then it gets cut to top 30.

• 48:35Speaker 00

  There are certain guys who, no matter how bad.

• 48:38Speaker 02

  Top 75, top, yeah, top 50, top 30.

• 48:39Speaker 00

  But in the top 50, there's certain guys that no matter how bad they play, if they, they could play terrible and they'd still go to the next weekend.

• 48:45Speaker 02

  Yes, like Scotty.

• 48:46Speaker 00

  That's so stupid.

• 48:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:48Speaker 00

  That makes no sense.

• 48:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:49Speaker 00

  Should just be top 75, top 50, top 30, and you have to be in those to get to the next round.

• 48:56Speaker 03

  They've tried to keep it so they, they reward guys for how they played in the regular season. And it's not as bad as it used to be.

• 49:04Speaker 00

  It's okay to say golf is not conducive to like a normal playoff.

• 49:09Speaker 03

  It's not playoff sport. It's all right.

• 49:10Speaker 00

  It's like golf isn't conducive to teams.

• 49:12Speaker 02

  And it's like majors are the most important. They, they care about more about majors than the playoffs. Like no one, no one's, no one remembers. Who won a FedEx Cup in a certain year.

• 49:22Speaker 00

  Rory won the Road to Dubai.

• 49:23Speaker 02

  They remember.

• 49:24Speaker 03

  Uh, Tommy Fleetwood won the FedEx Cup last year.

• 49:27Speaker 02

  No, he just won the final championship.

• 49:29Speaker 00

  That was his first big win.

• 49:31Speaker 03

  But was that the?

• 49:32Speaker 00

  Win? Stop looking up hand, foot and mouth disease.

• 49:37Speaker 00

  Get it off.

• 49:38Speaker 03

  I was tabbing over.

• 49:40Speaker 00

  I just keep seeing just a bunch of bumps in the back of someone's throat out of nowhere. Tommy Fleetwood won the, yeah, he won the cup. He won the whole cup.

• 49:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, he won the cup. So I was right.

• 49:52Speaker 02

  He won the FedEx Cup playoffs, I guess.

• 49:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, he won the last thing, which he won the cup.

• 49:56Speaker 03

  That's what made it so funny, which was.

• 49:58Speaker 00

  He wanted the cup.

• 49:59Speaker 03

  Yeah. He, he had never won and he wins that.

• 50:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, beat 30 guys.

• 50:04Speaker 00

  Stupid. We need football back.

• 50:06Speaker 03

  How many guys, uh, did you have to beat to win the live tournament this weekend?

• 50:12Speaker 02

  I don't know how many guys were in the field, probably, probably around 70, 75.

• 50:17Speaker 03

  It looks like 57.

• 50:18Speaker 02

  57?

• 50:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:20Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 50:22Speaker 03

  Pretty cool.

• 50:23Speaker 00

  What else? Wait, what else we got? Uh, sports. Oh, we have breaking news. Oh.

• 50:31Speaker 00

  Raiders running back Ash and Genti, who had to be helped off the practice field today is believed to have sprained his ankle.

• 50:37Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 50:39Speaker 00

  What?

• 50:41Speaker 03

  So he couldn't walk. They got down on him and prayed.

• 50:44Speaker 00

  This is why Eddie's rule would be great. The, the cart for every injury because.

• 50:51Speaker 03

  You know what this is like? You remember Trevor Lawrence said this a couple of years ago?

• 50:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 50:54Speaker 03

  When he was.

• 50:55Speaker 02

  Justin Fields.

• 50:55Speaker 00

  They didn't, they didn't give him a cart.

• 50:57Speaker 03

  Yeah. He was like, he was crying though.

• 50:58Speaker 00

  Mac Jones.

• 50:59Speaker 03

  Bad. Yeah.

• 51:00Speaker 00

  Remember Mac Jones?

• 51:01Speaker 03

  Mac Jones, big cry.

• 51:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. Ugly cry.

• 51:04Speaker 03

  Really bad cry.

• 51:05Speaker 00

  All right. Good for Raiders fans. Good for Ash and Genti. I'm happy.

• 51:08Speaker 03

  I'm choosing to believe that maybe, maybe Fernando Mendoza just healed it right then and there.

• 51:13Speaker 00

  That's, that's crazy. Like, maybe we just need to not report on any training camp injuries until we actually like, there's just, no one's allowed to tweet about training camp injuries until we hear from the head coach.

• 51:26Speaker 03

  You know, it'd be.

• 51:26Speaker 00

  That would be fair.

• 51:27Speaker 03

  You know, it'd be electric is if there was absolutely no injury update at all during training camp or preseason games.

• 51:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:35Speaker 03

  And then the Monday before week one.

• 51:38Speaker 00

  There's dump.

• 51:39Speaker 03

  Unload everything. Here's everything that happened in the last three weeks and then do without what you will.

• 51:45Speaker 00

  I like that.

• 51:45Speaker 03

  That'd be pretty good.

• 51:46Speaker 00

  We should, we should enact that rule. Um, also we had a quirky, I'll just quirky base. But this is, this is like a Tim Kirkchin just loves this shit, but it is cool when baseball does this stuff, but, uh, did you guys see that? So PCA was the first player ever in the history of baseball to hit a, uh, homerun to start the game, a homerun to end the game, and then a homerun in the next game to start the game. Until Randy Rosarina did it against the Cubs. So it's happened twice in one week. Never happened before that.

• 52:21Speaker 03

  That's pretty incredible.

• 52:21Speaker 00

  It's insane. So yeah, Randy Rosarina was only the second player in MLB history to hit, uh, two leadoff home runs and a walk off homerun in a two game span. And P, PCA was the other one. And it happened against, it's just crazy. This is why baseball, the stats in baseball are always the best. It's just, it makes no sense and it's fucking cool as shit when it happens.

• 52:42Speaker 03

  Do you think they're juicing the balls?

• 52:44Speaker 00

  Uh, I don't know. That's a good question.

• 52:47Speaker 03

  I think.

• 52:49Speaker 00

  Maybe.

• 52:50Speaker 03

  I think maybe. And the only reason I say that is because they do have

• 52:55Speaker 03

  potentially, you know, some bad news coming up with the lockout.

• 53:00Speaker 00

  Mark Walter.

• 53:01Speaker 03

  Mark Walter would be the other big bad news story that's kind of looming over, uh, several different sports. And baseball, for all their faults and, and as much as they struggle to stay relevant, they do an awesome job of putting their finger on the scale. When they know that things are about to go bad.

• 53:17Speaker 00

  I'd agree.

• 53:18Speaker 03

  They do a great job of knowing when to juice those balls up.

• 53:20Speaker 00

  Also, I would like to report that Max is back in on the Phillies. He texts, he uses, he used a five minute sex break, break vacation to text me about the Phillies today.

• 53:30Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 53:30Speaker 00

  So he, he was like, I'm in the south of France and he was like, did you see the Schwaber homerun?

• 53:37Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 53:37Speaker 00

  So he's back. He's all the way back. Don't let him say he's not back.

• 53:41Speaker 03

  I actually just looked it up. It looks like in 2026, the balls are showing a suspiciously low amount of drag.

• 53:50Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 53:51Speaker 03

  When they're hit.

• 53:52Speaker 00

  Hmm. Okay.

• 53:54Speaker 03

  Hmm. Interesting.

• 53:55Speaker 00

  Hmm. Something to think about.

• 53:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:57Speaker 00

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• 55:22Speaker 00

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• 56:00Speaker 00

  Twisted Tea is always there to keep good times rolling. Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea today. Hank, who's back of the week?

• 56:08Speaker 02

  Um, who's back of the week was John Gruden.

• 56:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:11Speaker 02

  Back in the booth.

• 56:12Speaker 00

  Tough old men.

• 56:13Speaker 02

  Tough old men. Uh, called a game with Rodney Barber, Bucks preseason game.

• 56:17Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 56:19Speaker 02

  That was awesome. I wish, I wish you could, I wish you could do more games.

• 56:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:22Speaker 02

  They, they, they gotta get him, but they gotta keep him back in the booth.

• 56:25Speaker 00

  So pumped.

• 56:26Speaker 03

  He's got a really good job now though.

• 56:28Speaker 02

  He does.

• 56:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 56:29Speaker 02

  But he could do both.

• 56:30Speaker 03

  He could do both.

• 56:31Speaker 02

  Maybe. Uh, also I don't.

• 56:36Speaker 00

  Go on.

• 56:38Speaker 02

  I don't know if I'm allowed to laugh at this or if this is messed up to laugh at this.

• 56:41Speaker 00

  Oh, please tell us.

• 56:43Speaker 02

  But, uh,

• 56:45Speaker 02

  the AWLs who ordered fake books.

• 56:48Speaker 00

  Oh, that sucked.

• 56:50Speaker 02

  But.

• 56:51Speaker 00

  But also crazy funny.

• 56:53Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 56:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:54Speaker 02

  There was people, I don't know.

• 56:56Speaker 00

  I feel bad for these people.

• 56:57Speaker 02

  I don't know how many of it was, and I don't know if it's because they were trying to save a buck and going through like bootleg, like Amazon.

• 57:02Speaker 00

  It was like Amazon Germany or something?

• 57:04Speaker 02

  Like they, I don't know if they were just trying to save money and they got chipped off or they genuinely were trying to order it through proper channels.

• 57:12Speaker 03

  Might've been a mislabeled link. Yeah.

• 57:13Speaker 02

  Uh, but there was not, not a lot. One of our, one of our sales guys, Nick, like neighbor, sent him one. And then I saw like one or two other people online that got, they ordered from Amazon. It might've been, it was like cheaper than, than the regular book, but it showed up with just like, it was all paper. And it was just blank pages. It was a blank notebook with the cover of part of my book on it. And it was like, uh, it was like a coloring book. It wasn't obviously like a hardcover book. It was just a book with blank pages in it.

• 57:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:44Speaker 02

  And someone said they thought it was my, like this was just my book.

• 57:48Speaker 03

  It's also like a laughably small book.

• 57:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:52Speaker 03

  It's like the size of like a little mini notepad, but you know what? You can, you can just write your own book.

• 57:57Speaker 00

  I do feel bad for those people, but.

• 57:59Speaker 03

  Choose your own adventure.

• 58:00Speaker 00

  I don't even know how they, where did they find that link?

• 58:02Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 58:02Speaker 00

  It wasn't like real Amazon. It was like Amazon Germany or something.

• 58:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:07Speaker 00

  Thank you to everyone who bought the book. We, Wednesday, we'll find out if we make New York Times bestseller, which would completely devalue everything we've ever known about that award.

• 58:17Speaker 03

  I think that there's going to be a lot of people that have, have gotten that in the past that will be very upset to see our names on there.

• 58:23Speaker 00

  Like, go back in time and talk to 12-year-old Henry Lockwood and be like, someone walks in to your.

• 58:33Speaker 02

  Well, I'm not an author of the book.

• 58:35Speaker 00

  Well, you are.

• 58:36Speaker 02

  I'm not.

• 58:36Speaker 00

  Part of it, but, but to be like, hey, you, at some, some point in your life, you're going to contribute to a New York Times bestselling book. You would probably think like, oh, did I, was I a serial killer or something? They wrote a book about me? Like that would probably be the only answer, right?

• 58:53Speaker 02

  No.

• 58:54Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 58:54Speaker 02

  No. I'd believe it. I dream, yeah. I dreamed big when I was a kid.

• 58:58Speaker 00

  Zach, would you believe it?

• 59:01Speaker 00

  No, me and books don't go usually together. But you guys wrote a great book.

• 59:05Speaker 03

  Zach, what's your favorite book?

• 59:07Speaker 00

  Favorite book all time?

• 59:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 59:09Speaker 00

  I like the, uh, series of unfortunate events series.

• 59:11Speaker 02

  Great series.

• 59:12Speaker 03

  Okay, yeah.

• 59:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're probably my one, one.

• 59:15Speaker 03

  Zach, did you read the, uh, the Redwall books growing up?

• 59:18Speaker 00

  I haven't seen the Redwall books, no sir.

• 59:20Speaker 03

  Okay, you strike me as maybe a Redwall guy.

• 59:21Speaker 00

  I did a lot of the Goosebump books, but really just for the covers, because they were holographic.

• 59:24Speaker 03

  And you could touch them?

• 59:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, they had good texture.

• 59:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, good texture on there. What about Hatchet? Did you ever read Hatchet? That book fucks.

• 59:32Speaker 00

  I haven't read Hatchet, but if it fucks, I'm in.

• 59:34Speaker 03

  I gotta go back and read Hatchet.

• 59:36Speaker 02

  The Outsiders.

• 59:38Speaker 03

  Uh, but yeah, thanks to everybody that bought a book. It means a lot. Shout out you guys. I have gone into a couple, when I've seen some of the books on the shelves, I did close the parentheses on two books, myself, that I found on the shelves.

• 59:53Speaker 00

  Oh, nice.

• 59:54Speaker 03

  Limited edition.

• 59:55Speaker 00

  Huge.

• 59:55Speaker 03

  Those are probably worth a lot right now. Yeah.

• 59:57Speaker 00

  Huge. Okay, good, good who's back Hank.

• 1:00:01Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 1:00:02Speaker 00

  PFT?

• 1:00:03Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah, my who's back of the week is nano bubbles. Do you guys remember Russell Wilson back in like 2016? When he, uh, he was convinced that he had solved concussions via nano bubbles?

• 1:00:17Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:00:17Speaker 03

  Like drinking more water with nano bubbles in them will help your brain improve from the concussions. I think that the science is probably, probably still out on that one.

• 1:00:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:00:27Speaker 03

  I haven't heard any updates on it. Um, but there was a story that came out last week that says they might have figured out something that you can take to reduce the risk of brain damage after a concussion. It is a postbiotic. So what that means is it's like bacteria that your body makes in your stomach.

• 1:00:46Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:00:46Speaker 03

  It's essentially shit.

• 1:00:48Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:00:49Speaker 03

  I think if I'm understanding this correctly.

• 1:00:51Speaker 00

  This is like Bill Gates selling a shit water?

• 1:00:53Speaker 03

  It's a product, a byproduct of something that your body creates after you eat tryptophan, which is the ingredient that's in turkey.

• 1:00:59Speaker 00

  Turkey, yep.

• 1:01:01Speaker 03

  To try to digest tryptophan, if you isolate that, and then I'm guessing that's kind of like shit. Or it's, it's part of your shit.

• 1:01:09Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:01:09Speaker 03

  Um, that if you consume that, it's been shown to, uh, to possibly help concussions in a study that they did. Now here's the interesting part is the study that they did was on mice. So they got a bunch of mice with traumatic brain injuries. And the mice performed better on cognitive test if they had that tiny piece of shit after they had their traumatic brain injury. So then my question was.

• 1:01:37Speaker 00

  So eating shit will make you smarter?

• 1:01:38Speaker 03

  Possibly, but then I was wondering what kind of, of study was this? Where they're just giving mice traumatic brain injury? How do they do that?

• 1:01:46Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:01:46Speaker 03

  Do they have the mice playing football?

• 1:01:48Speaker 00

  Huh.

• 1:01:48Speaker 03

  Do they have the mice running into a wall with no helmet? I don't, anyways, uh, it's a promising study, I guess, but really the, the big takeaway for me is like, if you eat shit, then you might, you might not get a concussion.

• 1:02:02Speaker 00

  This sounds like a study that was commissioned by someone trying to convince another person of like, here's what we should do for our last place fantasy football punishment.

• 1:02:11Speaker 03

  You have to eat shit.

• 1:02:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, you have to eat shit. And look, now studies show that it's actually good for you.

• 1:02:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, ass eating season's back.

• 1:02:18Speaker 00

  There, by the way, the, the last place, uh, fantasy football punishments like roll in right around this time of year.

• 1:02:24Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:02:25Speaker 00

  There's some really funny ones.

• 1:02:26Speaker 03

  Which ones?

• 1:02:26Speaker 00

  Uh, what I saw, what, what's the, um, what's the children's book, the Caterpillar children's book?

• 1:02:34Speaker 03

  Very Hungry Caterpillar.

• 1:02:35Speaker 00

  Uh, the last place had to dress it, dresses the very hungry caterpillar and eat everything the very hungry caterpillar eats.

• 1:02:41Speaker 03

  I love that.

• 1:02:42Speaker 00

  That was funny.

• 1:02:43Speaker 03

  Shout out Eric Carl.

• 1:02:44Speaker 00

  That was a really good one.

• 1:02:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:02:46Speaker 00

  But there's, there's some, there's some good ones out there. Do you see the guy who had to play invisible golf?

• 1:02:50Speaker 03

  I did see that one.

• 1:02:51Speaker 00

  One rocked.

• 1:02:52Speaker 03

  I actually think that, I, I thought that maybe up to half of the audience, the live audience that lived this weekend was a fantasy football.

• 1:02:58Speaker 00

  That was, yeah.

• 1:02:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:00Speaker 00

  That could have been those guys.

• 1:03:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, probably.

• 1:03:02Speaker 00

  There's also some guys I saw who had to complete a puzzle in a closet with just a headlamp and it was a, the puzzle was, uh, a puzzle of baked beans, which they all look the same.

• 1:03:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:14Speaker 00

  So it was, I don't know. Yeah, there it is.

• 1:03:17Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:03:17Speaker 00

  Thousand piece beans puzzle. I don't know. I, they make me laugh. I think these are funny. I think like, uh, you know, we don't, I know we, we make the, the statement, we don't care about your fantasy, uh, team, but these type of things, these are just like dudes rock over and over where it's like just guys having, you know, good friendships and making their friends do ridiculous things for sucking at fantasy football.

• 1:03:40Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:03:40Speaker 00

  It warms my heart every time I see them.

• 1:03:42Speaker 03

  And we've got our fantasy football preview coming up next week. Can't wait.

• 1:03:45Speaker 00

  Friday, Friday this week.

• 1:03:47Speaker 03

  This week, yeah.

• 1:03:48Speaker 00

  This week with, uh, Michael O'Connell.

• 1:03:55Speaker 03

  Michael?

• 1:03:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, Michael O'Connell.

• 1:03:57Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:03:58Speaker 02

  Big Mike.

• 1:03:59Speaker 00

  That's, that's his name.

• 1:04:00Speaker 03

  Wait, what?

• 1:04:02Speaker 00

  Michael O'Connell.

• 1:04:06Speaker 00

  That's Jerry's name.

• 1:04:08Speaker 03

  What?

• 1:04:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. His name's Michael O'Connell.

• 1:04:10Speaker 03

  Shut up.

• 1:04:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. Jerry's middle name.

• 1:04:13Speaker 03

  Jerry, Jerry's not named Jerry?

• 1:04:16Speaker 00

  I only know this because I got, I got, I got the flight manifesto today and I was like, who the fuck is Michael O'Connell? And then I looked it up and I was like, oh, fuck, that's Jerry.

• 1:04:24Speaker 03

  What else has he been lying to us about? Was he not actually fat?

• 1:04:29Speaker 00

  I think we, I think we might've known this, but, uh, yeah.

• 1:04:32Speaker 03

  No, I didn't know that.

• 1:04:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, Michael O'Connell, fantasy football.

• 1:04:36Speaker 03

  M O C?

• 1:04:37Speaker 00

  He actually should go as Michael for us for fantasy football, because we haven't won anything as Jerry.

• 1:04:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:42Speaker 00

  So let's rebrand Jerry.

• 1:04:45Speaker 03

  Mike.

• 1:04:46Speaker 00

  Michael, Michael, Michael.

• 1:04:48Speaker 03

  He's not a Mike.

• 1:04:50Speaker 00

  He might be a Michael.

• 1:04:51Speaker 03

  He's not.

• 1:04:52Speaker 00

  He could be a Michael.

• 1:04:53Speaker 03

  He's pretty much the third Mike on this show though.

• 1:04:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's true.

• 1:04:56Speaker 03

  As much as he's on here.

• 1:04:57Speaker 00

  Hank, have, have you followed along what I just said?

• 1:05:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, Jerry's name is.

• 1:05:01Speaker 00

  What do you think about that?

• 1:05:02Speaker 02

  I think he's fraud.

• 1:05:03Speaker 00

  No, I think he's fine.

• 1:05:04Speaker 03

  No, I think it's fraudulent.

• 1:05:05Speaker 00

  Jerry, Jerry, he's such a Jerry. He's such a Jerry.

• 1:05:09Speaker 03

  I am, I'm curious to know who he is going to give the kiss of death to.

• 1:05:14Speaker 00

  Hmm, it's gonna be Caleb. Like he's good.

• 1:05:17Speaker 03

  It's gotta be Caleb.

• 1:05:18Speaker 00

  It's, I mean Caleb or Drake he's gonna do.

• 1:05:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:20Speaker 00

  He's, he.

• 1:05:21Speaker 03

  He's such a piece of shit, yeah.

• 1:05:23Speaker 00

  He's gonna do it to, to one of us and it's gonna be so mean.

• 1:05:26Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:05:27Speaker 00

  Oh, man. Yeah. Oh yeah. There's a YouTube Jerry O'Connell reveals his real name. So I don't think it was a secret.

• 1:05:36Speaker 03

  That, it was a secret to me.

• 1:05:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, we just never looked it up. And then, yeah, when I saw it on the flight, I was like, who the fuck is this guy? That's the only reason that I, I, uh, I realized it.

• 1:05:47Speaker 03

  I gotta know why he decided to go by Jerry.

• 1:05:50Speaker 00

  He made the right choice.

• 1:05:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:51Speaker 00

  Actually, probably the best first choice he's ever made.

• 1:05:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:55Speaker 00

  Like, that was a, he knocked that out of the park.

• 1:05:58Speaker 03

  He definitely is a Jerry. He's not a Mike, but like, Mike and Jerry are such both kind of regular names. At what point is he like, you know what?

• 1:06:07Speaker 00

  He fits so perfectly with Jerry.

• 1:06:09Speaker 03

  My mind just got blown.

• 1:06:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. I, I, I was wondering if you guys knew that too, because I was like, fuck, was I the last to find out about this? Uh, all right. My who's back of the week is, uh, NIL. I have talked about it on this show before, but I have finally given some NIL to the Wisconsin football and basketball program. And I'm running a ticket giveaway, uh, which is being announced on my social media on Monday as you're listening to this. Uh, but yeah, I'm in the NIL game, boys. I'm officially in the NIL game. I don't know how I feel about it.

• 1:06:41Speaker 03

  How do you, do you decide where the money goes?

• 1:06:44Speaker 00

  Uh, yeah, it was split halfway, uh, half to football, half to basketball.

• 1:06:48Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:06:49Speaker 00

  So.

• 1:06:49Speaker 03

  But you don't get to say like, I, I wanna, uh,

• 1:06:52Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:06:52Speaker 03

  Offensive tackle.

• 1:06:52Speaker 00

  No, I'm just excited. I, listen, the, the, the, the people, uh, in, who are running the NIL, people in the football program, basketball program, had a lot of talks with them, good people. Uh, and we, we had some awesome meetings and it's like, hey, let's figure this out. So I'm in the game. But I'm, like I said, I, I have, uh, got a ticket giveaway that I'm doing for season tickets. So check out my socials. You can figure out how to get involved. Um, and then, yeah, it will be interesting to see, I don't know why you're pulling up Big Cat Badgers, but I'm just looking at the Akron thing again. I, I, boys, I, I think I told you guys, but I, I did an interview and they were like, who are you bringing with you?

• 1:07:32Speaker 00

  I said, the entire PMT team is on my staff. I don't know if they are, if I'm allowed to do that, but you guys are all.

• 1:07:38Speaker 03

  Wins the drawing.

• 1:07:40Speaker 00

  I don't know. I'm not gonna win it.

• 1:07:43Speaker 03

  You're top nine.

• 1:07:44Speaker 00

  Top nine.

• 1:07:44Speaker 03

  They should do like top six.

• 1:07:46Speaker 00

  That would be cool.

• 1:07:47Speaker 03

  And then, and then like top four, top two.

• 1:07:51Speaker 00

  It will be really funny if it's like a random person wins and then everyone just like, oh, okay. And then all the people who are complaining.

• 1:07:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:58Speaker 00

  So like, that's what I wanted to have happen. Uh, Zach?

• 1:08:02Speaker 03

  Uh, my who's back of the week this week is gonna be Jameis Winston.

• 1:08:05Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:08:05Speaker 03

  Couple of things. Uh, first, the pump up cheese was great. I reminded everybody that, uh, you know, beautiful thing, being able to come in and provide for your family. Also, the, the little light of mine bar was fantastic.

• 1:08:15Speaker 00

  Say that again?

• 1:08:16Speaker 03

  The, uh, this little light of mine.

• 1:08:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, this little light of mine.

• 1:08:19Speaker 03

  Let it shine.

• 1:08:19Speaker 00

  Okay, nice.

• 1:08:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was a great bar. Did you guys see the handshake with scatting boo?

• 1:08:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:23Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. Good, that was sick.

• 1:08:24Speaker 00

  Really good.

• 1:08:25Speaker 03

  And was there a twerk in that? There was, there was definitely. Like a mild twerk? It's for sure an original handshake.

• 1:08:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:30Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:08:33Speaker 00

  Are you trying to bring it up now, sir?

• 1:08:34Speaker 03

  Uh, no, I don't have to. That's what me.

• 1:08:35Speaker 00

  No, I, I was just curious if you, yeah, there, here it is. That's, that's a slight twerk.

• 1:08:39Speaker 03

  Is that a dog on a leash? Maybe is he?

• 1:08:42Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a little bit of a twerk.

• 1:08:47Speaker 03

  And then also just like. I miss Cam Scataboo.

• 1:08:49Speaker 00

  I know it's gonna be awesome having him back.

• 1:08:51Speaker 03

  I was actually, I was talking and thinking about Cam Scataboo earlier today. This is just where my brain goes because I just, I miss football and there's just certain things that I miss about my Sundays. It fills such a big void in my fall because my days are filled with these like awesome things to think about. Like Cam Scataboo running through somebody's face and I miss seeing that.

• 1:09:13Speaker 00

  I've, I, I've had those same, this is the time of year where I just, I just envisioned myself like locking in at noon. Kickoff and just getting so excited that first one. And guess what, guys? We're, we're getting new couches. Remember?

• 1:09:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, new couch.

• 1:09:26Speaker 00

  Couch day is going to be the first day. I held it off. I held off the new couches until hopefully they don't suck. I'm now real, oh, no, no, actually they don't. We had, we had our number one couch guy go and sit on.

• 1:09:39Speaker 03

  Who's our number one couch guy?

• 1:09:40Speaker 00

  Eddie.

• 1:09:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:42Speaker 00

  Eddie, I said Eddie's gotta go and test him out.

• 1:09:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:44Speaker 00

  And he did.

• 1:09:45Speaker 03

  I trust him. I hope they're not as deep.

• 1:09:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, I hope so too.

• 1:09:49Speaker 03

  Last ones were, they're tough to get, get off of.

• 1:09:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:09:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. I, I think it was the regular season Bears Packers game. I, I blacked out a little because I, it takes so much force to get up. That I saw stars for like five minutes.

• 1:10:02Speaker 03

  Are you a little concerned that we might be bad at gambling on the new couches?

• 1:10:07Speaker 00

  Can't be worse than what I was on the old couch.

• 1:10:09Speaker 03

  I'm worried. I'm worried about it. What if we just?

• 1:10:11Speaker 00

  Can't be worse than what I was on the old couch.

• 1:10:13Speaker 03

  What if we just suck at gambling now?

• 1:10:15Speaker 00

  I'm gonna have a great season of gambling. I've decided that. I'm manifesting it. I put it on my Etsy board, my dream board.

• 1:10:23Speaker 03

  I've got.

• 1:10:23Speaker 00

  Saw witch doctor. We should see a witch doctor.

• 1:10:26Speaker 03

  I need, I need the regular season to get here because I'm just betting a lot of futures.

• 1:10:30Speaker 00

  Yeah. Shane, what's your who's back of the week?

• 1:10:35Speaker 04

  Uh, my who's back of the week is this article meme sent earlier where a website ranked the top thirty two press box foods.

• 1:10:46Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:10:46Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:10:47Speaker 04

  Uh, topping out the list was the Dallas Cowboys. They have like prime rib, all that. And then last was the Jaguars where it looks like prison food.

• 1:10:57Speaker 03

  Beans. There was just like a tray of wet beans.

• 1:11:02Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, if you like eating diarrhea.

• 1:11:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:05Speaker 03

  Um.

• 1:11:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, didn't we find out it makes you smarter?

• 1:11:08Speaker 03

  That is true.

• 1:11:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:09Speaker 03

  Also, skyline chili.

• 1:11:11Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:11:12Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah, that tree of wet beans in Jacksonville looks really interesting. Then I think the Browns were also pretty low. Yeah.

• 1:11:20Speaker 00

  This, I feel like they just, I feel like this, uh, entire article just ripped off like Ross Tucker's Twitter. He, he rakes them.

• 1:11:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, every stadium goes to tuck spreads.

• 1:11:30Speaker 00

  Where were the Chargers?

• 1:11:32Speaker 04

  They're number five.

• 1:11:32Speaker 00

  I mean, I have to be. I feel like any new stadium, right?

• 1:11:35Speaker 03

  So are the Chargers or Rams higher?

• 1:11:37Speaker 04

  Uh, I think, I think I went down the list. I think the Chargers are, uh, just like if we're looking at other random teams on here, like the Patriots are like eighteenth.

• 1:11:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm just curious how the, like, how there's different food there. Oh, the Patriots are eighteen.

• 1:11:50Speaker 00

  You should make a shirt about it.

• 1:11:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:11:51Speaker 00

  Make a shirt, a chat GPT shirt.

• 1:11:54Speaker 03

  Patriots ranked eighteen, pussy.

• 1:11:56Speaker 00

  Uh, Shane, has enough time elapsed that you realized the chat GPT part was just weird to say?

• 1:12:02Speaker 04

  Well, I wanted to, to take credibility away from the shirt.

• 1:12:05Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 1:12:06Speaker 04

  That guy has no respect for me.

• 1:12:07Speaker 00

  You confused us and we thought the shirt itself wasn't real.

• 1:12:11Speaker 04

  No, yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't word it correctly. Also, maybe pussy was a little too far. Actually, yeah. I kinda need to stand on it, but.

• 1:12:20Speaker 00

  You're not, you're not.

• 1:12:22Speaker 03

  You don't stand on the pussy.

• 1:12:23Speaker 00

  You're not standing on it.

• 1:12:24Speaker 03

  Um.

• 1:12:25Speaker 00

  You're not standing on it.

• 1:12:26Speaker 03

  We're not gonna get into the.

• 1:12:27Speaker 04

  I'm considering standing on it.

• 1:12:29Speaker 03

  We're not doing misogyny. We're not good, good. I like those guys. That was a very funny controversy.

• 1:12:35Speaker 00

  Well, it was maybe the worst ad of all time.

• 1:12:38Speaker 03

  It was, it was a very, very strange commercial.

• 1:12:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. They just gotta have like one person say, hold up.

• 1:12:43Speaker 03

  Like, hey, this is weird. Who do you think?

• 1:12:46Speaker 00

  So the ad for people who don't know, who aren't online as much as us, good, good, uh, golf deleted an ad for their new Callaway driver. Where the, the setting is basically the Callaway driver sitting in the bag, a woman goes to grab it and then someone from good, good shoves her.

• 1:13:01Speaker 02

  And I'm just, don't touch my new driver.

• 1:13:03Speaker 03

  Yeah. And that's Garrett, right? Yeah. I like Garrett. Garrett's a good guy. I'm sure he didn't write this.

• 1:13:10Speaker 00

  No, they're probably going through hell right now. You can never judge someone on like a shitty moment, but like that was just a dumb ad.

• 1:13:16Speaker 03

  Who do you think treats?

• 1:13:17Speaker 02

  Those ads, like we know though, like those go through a lot of channels.

• 1:13:20Speaker 00

  I know.

• 1:13:21Speaker 02

  Like it's not, there's, it's not like they, it just went up on a whim.

• 1:13:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:13:26Speaker 00

  It's also so funny because it's just, it's so internet twenty twenty six. It's the dumbest cycle every time where someone does something stupid. Cause it was a stupid ad. I don't think those guys are like bad guys for it, but it was a dumb ad. And then the outrage is crazy. Then good, good, uh, apologize, apologizes. Then there's a backlash to them apologizing, being like, it wasn't that bad. Why are you fucking apologizing?

• 1:13:50Speaker 03

  Yeah. And soon.

• 1:13:52Speaker 00

  We learned nothing.

• 1:13:53Speaker 03

  Be on their side.

• 1:13:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:54Speaker 03

  And if they, if that's how poorly they treat female drivers, then I'm sure Liv will make them an offer soon.

• 1:14:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. We should remake that ad with you, PFT, with your hair out.

• 1:14:04Speaker 03

  I don't think that'd be very funny.

• 1:14:06Speaker 00

  Could be.

• 1:14:09Speaker 03

  I think you should apologize because that's such a terrible idea for an ad and sends the wrong message.

• 1:14:15Speaker 00

  Uh, by the way, a quick update before we do Stanford Steve. Zach, you are fifteen home runs back in dingers only.

• 1:14:23Speaker 02

  Who's in first?

• 1:14:24Speaker 00

  Uh, you are Hank. Good job. Eighty-two home runs Hank. Alex Bregman.

• 1:14:29Speaker 02

  And Hap.

• 1:14:31Speaker 00

  And Hap, grand slam today. Off the pole. Uh, yeah. So PFT and Brandon, uh, are seventh and eighth, but they are well clear of Zach.

• 1:14:44Speaker 02

  Brandon, I thought this was his thing.

• 1:14:45Speaker 00

  Whatever he decided to put out on the field. We're, reminder, we're gonna have a combo Zach and Steven Shay, uh, punishment. Zach, I'm calling it.

• 1:14:55Speaker 03

  You're calling it?

• 1:14:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's almost, you know what? I'll say this right now, Zach. If you somehow don't lose, I will also join in the punishment.

• 1:15:05Speaker 03

  Ooh.

• 1:15:05Speaker 00

  Okay. Cause you're gonna lose.

• 1:15:07Speaker 03

  I'm gonna, will you auto accept the trade I put through?

• 1:15:10Speaker 00

  You were going to lose. What's the trade you put through?

• 1:15:12Speaker 03

  I haven't put it through yet, but will, will you give me good favor?

• 1:15:15Speaker 00

  What is the trade?

• 1:15:16Speaker 03

  It's not there yet.

• 1:15:17Speaker 00

  Well, you tell it to me. We're doing a show.

• 1:15:19Speaker 03

  I don't have it yet. That's the thing. I don't have the trade yet.

• 1:15:21Speaker 00

  Great. Wait.

• 1:15:22Speaker 03

  He is a guy who's like not even in the league. I got a guy that's not playing MLB baseball. Yeah.

• 1:15:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:15:27Speaker 03

  That's not good. And do we get one roster swap, right?

• 1:15:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:15:30Speaker 03

  Yeah. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna, very soon, probably the next couple of hours, try to swap him out. If the league can just look at it and decide.

• 1:15:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, whatever. You're still gonna finish last. And if you don't finish last, again, I will, I will throw as well.

• 1:15:43Speaker 03

  And so.

• 1:15:43Speaker 00

  You still have to be punished, but I'll, I'll also pitch.

• 1:15:46Speaker 04

  Completely understandable. So Steven was the catcher last time. Uh, no, was the pitcher for last one. Zach is the catcher for that one.

• 1:15:54Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 1:15:54Speaker 04

  Right now Zach would be pitching and Steven is in second and he would be catching.

• 1:15:58Speaker 00

  Oh, perfect.

• 1:15:59Speaker 04

  They would just come in relief.

• 1:16:00Speaker 00

  Oh, yes, they flip. So, uh, and then I might have to clean up the whole thing up.

• 1:16:04Speaker 03

  Jay has a, Jay's got a nine dinger lead on Big Cat.

• 1:16:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:09Speaker 03

  So that's a pretty sizable lead, but you, you could possibly catch him.

• 1:16:12Speaker 00

  I don't want to. I might start benching guys. I still, I still have a few guys that aren't even, I'm in third and Aaron Judge is not played.

• 1:16:19Speaker 03

  Really? It's a very, like, third through eighth is separated by six dingers.

• 1:16:23Speaker 00

  Very tight.

• 1:16:24Speaker 03

  So very, very tight, except for Zach at the end. And then Hank is really, Hank's got a, a great squad.

• 1:16:31Speaker 00

  Great job, Hank.

• 1:16:31Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:16:33Speaker 03

  Ball now.

• 1:16:34Speaker 02

  Facts.

• 1:16:34Speaker 00

  Are you a little upset that you're winning the one challenge that you wouldn't care if you lost?

• 1:16:39Speaker 02

  No, I care. I would care.

• 1:16:41Speaker 00

  No, but you would like to pitch. That'd be fun.

• 1:16:44Speaker 02

  True.

• 1:16:45Speaker 00

  See what I'm saying?

• 1:16:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:48Speaker 00

  Like this, this versus an hour of stand up.

• 1:16:51Speaker 02

  That's fair.

• 1:16:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:52Speaker 02

  That was fun too, though.

• 1:16:53Speaker 00

  That was fun. That was fun. Uh, okay. Well, let's do Stanford Steve and then we have our Mount Rushmore, which by the way, I think we decided the loser gets skunked.

• 1:17:02Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 1:17:03Speaker 03

  I'm down.

• 1:17:05Speaker 00

  We, we should think of something fun, a fun fantasy. I actually.

• 1:17:08Speaker 03

  I'm down to get skunked.

• 1:17:09Speaker 00

  I actually like stealing that cat, that very hungry caterpillar. Maybe find a different book. Um, James and the Giant Peach. You just had to roll a big peach around for a week.

• 1:17:18Speaker 03

  What happens in Goodnight Moon?

• 1:17:20Speaker 00

  Is this a good night?

• 1:17:21Speaker 03

  To like, but anything crazy? Probably not.

• 1:17:24Speaker 00

  Where the wild things are?

• 1:17:25Speaker 03

  Yeah. That's a good book too.

• 1:17:27Speaker 00

  You gotta go, yeah, we could do, or how about everybody poops? We could come up with a green eggs and ham would work. Yeah.

• 1:17:36Speaker 03

  You have to do all the things from green eggs and ham?

• 1:17:38Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:17:39Speaker 03

  Box, fox, socks.

• 1:17:42Speaker 00

  Everyone poops. We could do that. You just gotta go see all the animals poop.

• 1:17:46Speaker 03

  What, what if you had to um get one of those fake pardon my books and write all of pardon my book? In the fake pardon my book?

• 1:17:55Speaker 00

  Oh, man.

• 1:17:56Speaker 03

  By hand.

• 1:17:57Speaker 00

  Suck. That would suck.

• 1:17:59Speaker 03

  And then sell that book.

• 1:18:00Speaker 00

  Oh, my kids love the uh, the, the, the pigeon drives the bus uh, book. Maybe you have to, you have to be a passenger in a bus driven by

• 1:18:09Speaker 03

  A bird?

• 1:18:09Speaker 00

  A pigeon. Yeah. That'd be cool.

• 1:18:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:18:12Speaker 00

  Alright, let's do.

• 1:18:13Speaker 03

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  ID verification required to use a balance. The Venmo MasterCard is issued by the Bancorp Bank NA. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. He's on the back cover of our book. It is Stanford Steve. College football is week zero is coming up this weekend. We have week one, Labor Day weekend. We're getting excited. Steve will be all over it. He is a great ambassador for college football. You can see him on uh, with SVP on Monday or every single night, but you also have the SVP pod. And you also are going to be on game day. He is the man. Steve, is that a good enough intro? How are you doing? Did you see the wings we had?

• 1:21:12Speaker 00

  See, we had great wings for dinner tonight. I tweeted out, I was like, guess the guest. And a lot of, a lot of Josh Allen guesses.

• 1:21:21Speaker 03

  That'd be Titus.

• 1:21:21Speaker 00

  No Titus guesses. Someone did guess Stanford Steve. Did you see the wings? Did you, they were incredible wings. What did you think? That's the place you guys took me to. That's my favorite place. No, different place. We got a different place. We'll get you on it. But did you have wings for dinner tonight? What'd you eat for dinner? I did not have any uh, wings for dinner, guys. What'd you eat for dinner? Uh, a little chicken broth. Oh, why?

• 1:21:43Speaker 03

  So you guys sick?

• 1:21:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, deconstructed chicken wings. What, what happened? You can't eat the day before you're getting a colonoscopy. Oh, no.

• 1:21:52Speaker 03

  Alright, well, hey, congrats on getting it done.

• 1:21:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, you guys are too young, huh? Well, I don't know.

• 1:21:58Speaker 03

  We gotta do it. I just, I, I've opted out of looking that up. I feel like some places might tell you when you're 40.

• 1:22:03Speaker 00

  Yeah. How, hopefully, hopefully no big trades tomorrow. Uh, while you're, while you're getting a colonoscopy. Stanford folds its football program?

• 1:22:14Speaker 03

  Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah, you come out of it and it's like Bub Carrington got sent to the Kings.

• 1:22:19Speaker 00

  By the way, Steve, Steve, I mean, you know, you know me well enough. I mean, you, you knew when you texted me, I, I texted him the picture of the wings. He said, you fucker, I can't eat right now. I'm, I'm not, not for air, but I'm getting ready for a colonoscopy. You knew, you knew I was gonna. Yeah, I mean, come on. The guy can't eat. We ate extra for you. I bet you did. And I'm, I'm proud of you. I, I wouldn't, I, I wouldn't expect anything less of you. Uh, so I, I appreciate that. Um, yeah. So, um, yeah, I'll be done by the time this comes out. We'll be good to go. Alright, perfect.

• 1:22:52Speaker 03

  And I'm looking on the back, on the back cover here, you're right underneath Fred Smoot, which is awesome. And you're right.

• 1:22:58Speaker 00

  I just saw him the other day.

• 1:22:59Speaker 03

  You're absolutely, you're frame mugging foul ball guy.

• 1:23:02Speaker 00

  Foul ball guy.

• 1:23:03Speaker 03

  Zach Hampel, you're just.

• 1:23:04Speaker 00

  Two titans of the industry.

• 1:23:05Speaker 03

  It looks like you might be having your way with Zach Hampel on this. I don't know. I don't know what's going on beneath the waist, but it's a good look for you, Steve.

• 1:23:11Speaker 00

  You look great. I'm looking for the book and I can't, I mean, it's, every shelf down here is, is gone. Sold out, sold out. Love that. Um, alright, Steve, let's talk some ball. And I have some hot takes for you, mild takes that I want you to judge. I'll do that in a minute. But let's start with just the top and we have the top 25. Uh, I have, I, I'll start with this take. I think Indiana is already getting disrespected again. And it's fucking insane. Like, this is Kurt Signetti has done nothing but win. They, they went undefeated last year. Yes, they obviously lost a bunch of guys, but they had a ton of transfers. Josh Hoover, if he can fix the interceptions, the multiple interception games, I think he'll be just fine.

• 1:23:51Speaker 00

  I don't know why we're gonna, like, I feel this sense of, hey, they're not gonna do it again. They're not, and yeah, it's hard to repeat, but Indiana's gonna be really fucking good again.

• 1:24:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, really good. I have him ranked two right now. Um, and I'm with you. I, I believe when you look at what they have, which is still amazing, at the number of guys that were drafted off that defense and the guys they lost, you know, along the, the playoff run. To see what he replaced them with, these are big time players. Uh, you got Bruner, the kid from, from Wisconsin. They already have guys coming back on the offensive line. He slots in at tackle. They have the lineman of the year from the Big Ten back. They move Evans over. Uh, Nick Marsh is a pro at receiver. And I, I don't want to take anything away from Surratt. He led the country in touchdowns last year. What he and Mendoza did on those fade stops and, and crunch time plays

• 1:24:43Speaker 00

  was outstanding. But Nick Marsh almost had 15 yards, 100 yards receiving at Michigan State. And they didn't have much to, to, to really flaunt at Michigan State. He's a stud. Uh, I think the upside is, and then you saw what Charlie Becker's doing. They bring in Turbo Richard, the, the running back from Boston College. And the defense brings a ton back. Uh, you know, Bones Jones in the middle. Uh, Hardy's in the, in the middle. You know, you lose probably my favorite player in, in college football this year in Pons. Uh, but they, they, they move the other corner over. Brian Haines is a, is a wizard when it comes to defense. I'm totally with you. I think what they, people are just gonna say, oh, they can't repeat. It's Indiana. That was a fluke. It's like, look at the roster, man. Yeah.

• 1:25:27Speaker 00

  It's, it's very doable. They don't play anybody out of conference. Uh, they'll be, they'll be ripping and roaring as they host Ohio State mid-October. Yeah. I, I guess it's, it's kind of like when, when Clemson, when, when Dabo, who it's, it's crazy doing like all these, like I, I'm reading all the previews and getting ready for the season. It's like Dabo just doesn't exist anymore in college football, which is a whole other story. Like that, they just don't exist. Like Clemson is just not an afterthought. But when Clemson, remember when they were Clemsoning and it was like, oh, they gotta, and then it takes a couple of years for people to be like, oh, no, no, this is for real, for real. I, I'm there with Indiana and I don't know, like, anyone who doesn't think that, like, that thinks last year was a fluke. Kurt Signetti's gonna be ready to go and this team's gonna be really, really good.

• 1:26:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. And talking to coaches, guys, like with, with practice going on and then like what the process was, you guys were, uh, you guys were a Big Ten media day. I saw it.

• 1:26:18Speaker 03

  We're putting flesh on flesh with Sig.

• 1:26:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, bad handshake guy.

• 1:26:21Speaker 03

  Have you ever shaken Sig's hand? Have you done it?

• 1:26:23Speaker 00

  It's not great. It's terrible.

• 1:26:24Speaker 03

  So I, I actually now.

• 1:26:26Speaker 00

  He does it on purpose.

• 1:26:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, so it's probably on purpose. He doesn't give a fuck about handshakes. He's just like, this is time I could be spending watching film. Um, and then I, I do think that there's, there's seriously some chances that he lost jobs because of that. That's why it took him so long to maybe get a head coaching gig. Think about it. If you're running a search and it's down to him and like one or two other guys, that handshake sticks out to you. And you're like, I, I can't get over the handshake.

• 1:26:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. He doesn't care.

• 1:26:53Speaker 03

  No, he doesn't.

• 1:26:53Speaker 00

  He does not care at all.

• 1:26:55Speaker 03

  And it's a Saban thing too.

• 1:26:58Speaker 00

  What's that?

• 1:26:59Speaker 03

  Apparently Saban, I, you've probably shaken his hand more, more than I have, but I've heard that Saban.

• 1:27:03Speaker 00

  Never shaken his hand.

• 1:27:04Speaker 03

  Just doesn't.

• 1:27:04Speaker 00

  Maybe, have you?

• 1:27:05Speaker 03

  Just doesn't do.

• 1:27:06Speaker 00

  Better handshake.

• 1:27:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, better handshake. Yeah.

• 1:27:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. Okay, so Indiana, they're really good. I, I also, guys, like you talk to, you talk to guys like, you know, Wisconsin, what they did, Dan, like, it feels like coaches were either gonna go with, with, with depth, like keep trying to attain depth and just keep paying guys to, to fill the roster. Or like guys bought into continuity and what they did. I think Indiana did a great job of both. Um, so when you look at what they brought in, he, he kept his coordinators. Uh, they, I mean, I think Haines has gotten like four contract extensions. My man's making some good money, but he's excellent. They're, they're so smart in their approach. You, you talk to people that go there.

• 1:27:47Speaker 00

  You know, they don't practice long. It's, it's a really disciplined, the detail approach and it's working, man. It, it, it's totally working. I think, you know, him talking about stalking complacency, I think is just perfect for him. Cause he's, he's like almost always in a bad mood. So like that even compounds it. Like he's constantly gonna be in a bad mood. Trying to find somebody that's slacking off. We saw the story with Mick Barsh, first day of practice with the gold cleats. Those didn't last long.

• 1:28:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:28:14Speaker 00

  Uh, so I, I think, I think Josh Hoover will, uh, will, will, if he hasn't already learned what the wrath of Signetti is, you know, being a quarterback and knowing that turnovers were his issue. Uh, I, I think, you know, there's an upside there with Hoover who could, you know, flat out throw the, throw the rock. So, um, yeah, I, I, what they did in their approach, I, I can't argue with. I, I think it's really smart and what they've done.

• 1:28:39Speaker 03

  Steve, I, I have to imagine that you've spent some time scouting Miami, given your week one matchup.

• 1:28:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:28:45Speaker 03

  Yeah. Spent a lot of time digging into, are the Hurricanes, are they just going to be back again? Are they going to be almost as good, if not, you know, just as good this year?

• 1:28:53Speaker 00

  Uh, I think their ceiling might be higher offensively.

• 1:28:55Speaker 03

  Mensa.

• 1:28:56Speaker 00

  When you look at Mensa and what he did, I forgot the number. I was reading it, but it was some kind of completion percentage, um, adjusted, whatever that meant. Like he had the most drops of any, of any quarterback. Like his completion percentage would have been through the roof. Uh, if, if his guys didn't have so many drops and when you look at what he's going to, uh, you know, Alex Mariball, offensive line coach is there. I'm going to trust what they do. I know Mario's going to do it, but Alex coaches the O line and, and Mario's going to get that. And plus like, uh, I feel like Coach Cristobal doesn't like when everybody hypes them up. So I'm, yeah, we're hyping Miami. Like he wants, he's, he's also stalking complacency also knowing that their schedule rots.

• 1:29:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:29:37Speaker 00

  Like they're, they don't play, they go to South Bend. Um, and that's basically it. So he is going to be on one all season long because he just wants to get to that end, uh, you know, and get the playoff going because I don't, if they don't win the ACC this year.

• 1:29:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:29:54Speaker 00

  I mean, good Lord. Uh, it's just not there. The depth in the conference is not there and they're, they're, I mean, they lose Mesidor in vain, but with Trey or, and, and the safety coming down from, from Boston College, like the speed they have and Heather as the, as the DC, like they are locked and loaded. And, you know, I've, I heard people say pound for pound, you know, Malachi Tony's the best player in the sport. Like he's only going to be better. Uh, and Mensa's more consistent of a thrower and he's a better deep ball thrower. So that's what scares me. When you look at Miami, the difference from last year, it was slow, methodical, give the ball to Fletcher. We have pros on the offensive line. This could be a lot more razzle dazzle with Miami and, and, and a lot more in your face style, which, uh, the people

• 1:30:39Speaker 00

  that don't like Miami, don't like at all. But, uh, yeah, the, the U is here.

• 1:30:44Speaker 03

  So I, I was reading about him and their offensive tackle, Jackson Cantwell, he's a freshman. He's 18 years old.

• 1:30:50Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:30:50Speaker 03

  He was the Gatorade, the national Gatorade player of the year. Is that correct? As, as an offensive tackle?

• 1:30:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. And then it sounds like when I'm reading, he's actually going to play guard, uh, to start because they like what they've, they've, they have at tackle. But yeah, I'm really interested to see what, what that has. Like I said, Mariball is a, is a wizard, uh, offensive, you know, on the offensive line. And I'm not going to worry about that part of that.

• 1:31:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:31:16Speaker 00

  That unit, uh, for, for the Hurricanes, knowing how good those coaches are.

• 1:31:20Speaker 03

  Cause I, I was thinking about it, like how much you're our dude expert. If we have any questions about whether or not some guys are dude or not, we go straight to you. How big of a dude do you have to be to get Gatorade player of the year as an offensive lineman?

• 1:31:33Speaker 00

  Uh, I think it's verified walking into the U and starting as a true freshman on the offensive line. Like that's all I need to know. Like if those guys think he's the, he's the goods, then I, I can't wait, uh, to see what he brings to the table. I hope the, uh, so hope we get out alive, uh, week one as Miami goes out west.

• 1:31:50Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:31:50Speaker 00

  We gotta get through that game, uh, to save the roster. All right. Here's another one for you. And you mentioned continuity with Indiana. I'm high on Georgia this year, and I don't think you are, but I, I think this is going to be like an old school Saban team where their defensive line last year was really good against the run, couldn't get pressure. They're all coming back. They're going to get better. Great secondary, good run game, steady quarterback. I think they're just going to cement mixer teams and just like bully them. And that, that, and that's a style that, I mean, you see like some of these, Ohio State plays at a snail's pace. Like some of these teams have gone the other way where they're just playing clock control and just beating you up and being like, hey, we have better dudes. I think that's what Georgia's going to be like this year.

• 1:32:34Speaker 00

  Yeah. I don't have them in my top five, but I, they can definitely win a national championship. Uh, I just, I want to see more. Uh, you know, you talked about the defensive numbers, like, you know, everybody, you know, in this day and age, like the, the Georgia teams that won back-to-back titles, go back and look at how many guys got drafted. Like those days of depth, we're not going to, we don't have them anymore because kids are going to go other places and get more money to play, uh, and not sit. Like those, the, the days of stockpile on the roster, which they were able to do, and a credit to them for doing it. I don't, I don't see those. So, you know, there's an adaptation process that, that, that Kirby has gone through. Like look at what they've done in the portal. They haven't gone out and gotten the five star receiver, right? They have Stockton. He's not really a big ego.

• 1:33:18Speaker 00

  He's a tough dude, probably the toughest quarterback there is. When you look at the hits that he's taken. So to your point, there is a methodical approach. There is a, um, you know, a stranglehold that they want to have you, you know, for the first three quarters, and then they put you in the ground in the fourth quarter. So I, I'm not doubting Georgia. It's just, I want to see some of the new faces that are beginning the ball. Like Frazier didn't turn it over. I think the last 11 games, he was a former number one player in the country, uh, that, that had fumble issues and, you know, he got going late. So that offensive line should be set too, which they didn't have for the last two years, which I think, you know, the other thing too, is like, oh, what happened to Georgia? What happened to Georgia the last two years? I'm like, well, Trinidad Chambliss was an absolute wizard. And then

• 1:34:01Speaker 00

  the year before, they didn't have their quarterback. Runner up. Yeah. Notre Dame was the runner up. Like I know Ohio State was way better than Notre Dame, but it's, it's funny to look at and be like, oh, Georgia totally fell off. It's like, no, they ran into a buzzsaw at quarterback last year that was playing perfect ball. Correct. And the year before they were, you know. Got hurt in the SEC championship game. He didn't play. It was better Stockton's first, first start in, in, in the college football playoffs. So I'm not making an excuse. Like I, I don't want to take anything away from Notre Dame, but people are like, what happened? Well, that's what happened. Yeah. It's college football, man. Shit happens. Right. Right. So I think, and I think that like everyone, the continuity aspect of like all these guys are a year older and they, they showed it with the run defense. They can probably get the pressures. Elijah Griffin's an absolute stud. I think they're going to

• 1:34:46Speaker 00

  be that team this year where it's like, you, you get ready. Like remember when it used to be the stat, like the week after you play Alabama, it's like you just get, your, your bodies are broken. I think that's what Georgia's going to be like this year. So you have a future on them? No, I, I haven't actually placed a single college football bet yet.

• 1:35:02Speaker 03

  Really?

• 1:35:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh. Dariel Mensa was the one thing I was looking at. Selling a book. I forgot. Yeah. I'm selling a book. What are you? No, I, I also don't want to tie. I got too much. You, you already, listen, every time I get on the phone with you, you give me something else. So I get tied up with other things. Now we're Phillies NL cent or NL East. I got Max on that too. I know.

• 1:35:21Speaker 03

  What about in, in college football right now, Steve? It sounds like you've given it some thought. You might have a couple, a couple of things lingering out there, some bank notes that might come due later.

• 1:35:29Speaker 00

  Uh, yeah. I, I put it this way. I, I don't, you could go whatever, if you want to bet the season win total over, if you want to bet them to, you know, put them in a parlay to, um, you know, go far into playoff, make the playoff, win the national championship. I think Notre Dame's the real deal, guys. I, I mean. Yeah. When you look at what they return and the bad taste in their mind, like no one was more upset that they didn't play in a bowl game than me. I just didn't think that was the right approach because you had a young quarterback and he could play more. Uh, so I look at what they return. I believe it's the best defense in the country coming into the season and CJ Carr is real. Uh, they got some Ohio State receivers. I am not going

• 1:36:12Speaker 00

  to worry about what's in the running back room at Notre Dame. I think Marcus, I trust Marcus Freeman where he's going to have a guy that can hand the ball off to, or a couple guys and be great. Uh, they got another absolute stud, uh, coming in at, at tight end. The offensive line is locked and loaded. They got a freshman coming in to play left tackle, Will Black, who's, um, I'm thinking, I know he played prep ball in Connecticut. He might have a little Canadian in him, uh, but they, they love what they have there. So lines of scrimmage, like Indiana, I love it because that the line of scrimmage, Notre Dame might be a tad stronger, uh, because of their depth on the defensive side. Uh, so I, I really,

• 1:36:51Speaker 00

  I, I expect them to win the national championship. Um, the only thing, uh, but they're in, in the Miami category, their schedule's not tough. No, they can't lose to BYU though. No, no. And that's, I mean, if that's a collision course, that place will be bonkers. And that could also be a similar situation. Like I think Miami's going to win the ACC this year. Yep. But if they lose to.

• 1:37:13Speaker 03

  BYU could very well be the second best team in the Big 12 and you could have the same situation where it's like head to head should matter. So it's like they just, they could lose one game. They can't lose two again because that's the problem with playing a solid schedule. They don't have the games to make it up if they lose. They have, they have three ranked games on the schedule as of right now. If you lose two out of three of them, which I don't think they will, I'm very high on Notre Dame as well. You don't have anything to make up for it.

• 1:37:37Speaker 00

  No. And, and I think like that's what came back to bite them last year.

• 1:37:40Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:37:41Speaker 00

  Like every, everybody, when they were, when they were 0-2, everybody's like, oh, 10-2 Notre Dame is going to get in. They didn't get in.

• 1:37:47Speaker 03

  Right. Because they lie in that loss to Miami. All right. I got another one for you. Especially like going off the Georgia conversation of like, what's happened to Georgia?

• 1:37:57Speaker 03

  I've been thinking a lot about Oregon. Oregon, I think a lot of people are picking them to win the national title.

• 1:38:01Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:38:02Speaker 03

  The conversation is can Dan Lanning win the big one? I don't think that's the conversation. If you look at Oregon, the last three years, they have lost five total games. And they have all been to the national champion or the runner up. They lost two games to Washington in 2023. They lost a game to Ohio State in 2024 at the Rose Bowl. And they lost two games to Indiana last year. So it's like, they beat everyone. And then yes, obviously those are big, big games.

• 1:38:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:25Speaker 03

  The rematches. Right. I don't know if I fully trust Dante more though. And I, here's, here's why. I was, I was looking through it and like the Indiana game in the, in the playoffs was bad. Obviously. The Iowa game was not great until the final drive. The Indiana game at home wasn't great. And it's like, he's got to be the guy. He's got to, he's got to go up that next level. And maybe he will because he's got to, everyone's healthy.

• 1:38:52Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:38:52Speaker 03

  He's got to go up that next level. That's what I'm scared about. I have no problems with Dan Lanning. I think Dan Lanning can get it done. It's Dante, can Dante Moore get it done?

• 1:38:59Speaker 00

  I, I agree with you. I, it's a wait and see for me with Oregon. And I mean, you talk to their fans, they're, they're just pissed off because of how the last two seasons ended.

• 1:39:08Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:39:08Speaker 00

  And, and through because they hate Washington also. Uh, but, um, listen, they got guys to replace on the offensive line. Okay. You have a double coordinator change, uh, new offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator. And you know, I, I was talking to McShay the other day on his show and I asked him like, in evaluating quarterbacks, do you have like a, a checkbox? For like nuggets on the road? Like, do you like, what, what does a guy do when he goes into a hostile environment? And you know, he didn't really answer that, but like, that's what I look at. Like I was, I was on, uh, on the field for the game at home against Indiana last year. And I, I, I thought things went wrong early and they confused them and it just didn't look good.

• 1:39:52Speaker 00

  And then I realized how fast Indiana was defensively, uh, with their speed. I'm like, this is going to be an issue all day. You mentioned the Iowa game. He was unbelievable. I think he went five for five.

• 1:40:01Speaker 03

  That last drive was incredible. I get, I remember after the, I was like, that's the moment that I've been looking for from him.

• 1:40:07Speaker 00

  And, and like, I was at the whiteout last year, like they had chances to put Penn State away. They didn't do it. I just want to see more from Dante. That, that's it. Now, you mentioned all the injuries. Evan Stewart's a former number one wide receiver in the country. De'Corey Moore was a number one receiver in the country last year. He got hurt. He didn't have all those toys to play with. I don't think Siddiq was healthy at the end of last year. This year, he's got all his weapons. So I do expect a big year from Dante. It's just a wait and see for me.

• 1:40:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:40:36Speaker 00

  The other question I have, and you know, everyone talks about their front fours, the best offensive line. But when you read it, the guys they rotated with last year all went to other schools. So they don't have the depth. And that's what I wonder, uh, you know, I expect teams like Wash, uh, USC to be better this year. They go to USC and play them. You know, they, they, they go on, they get Washington, um, you know, they go to Ohio State. Like how are you going to match up when you don't have that depth? He's done, he, he's the only coach I believe in the top five in transfer portal and recruiting classes the last two years. So they should have the depth, but I just want to see it. And more than anything, I know their fan base wants to see it because there's a, there's, there's a really bad taste in their mouth.

• 1:41:21Speaker 00

  For what those seasons have ended and what, what they look like as they ended the last three years.

• 1:41:26Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. What about, you mentioned it, uh, USC. What do you expect out of them? Is that like, is maybe a pre, is the, I don't want to say it's a hot seat yet, but are we preheating it? We getting it ready just in case?

• 1:41:38Speaker 00

  What are you preheated at? 425?

• 1:41:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, about 420. Well, it's LA. It's probably 420. Take five off there. Yeah. But you know what I'm talking about. Like how quickly are we going to be like stinking Riley?

• 1:41:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. I look at USC. This is the big, the big 10 question I have guys is I put USC, Washington, Penn State, Michigan. And I hate that I'm not doing it, but I'm not putting Iowa in that category. I believe one of those four, or maybe two of those four are going to go to the playoff. And when you talk to people that have gone to see USC, it sounds a lot like Oklahoma this year. This is the best team Lincoln Riley's had at USC, along with Venables. This is the best team he's had at Oklahoma. So there's no more excuses. Uh, you know, they lose Lemon, Lane's been great for the Ravens. Like I am not ever going to worry about a wide receiver room at USC.

• 1:42:29Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:42:29Speaker 00

  I had to play against them when I was younger and it just, trust me, they know what they're doing to get wide receivers. So when you look at Meava, he's going to take the next step. They're built. They've done a really good job recruiting. It sounds like they're going to start the five star defensive end. That's what I want to hear when I'm, when I'm here, when I'm asking about USC. I need some depth on the, on the lines of scrimmage. Cause you know, you go to a road game and whatever it was, 8am, you know, uh, local time or you know, body, body clock time. At Champagne, Illinois, and you lose that game. And that basically is the difference.

• 1:43:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:43:05Speaker 00

  In your season, you know?

• 1:43:07Speaker 03

  And, and that's the thing with USC is I think they could be a good team. I don't know if they'll make the playoff because their schedule, like it's the schedule lottery is half, half of figuring this out. They have a six game stretch. I was looking at it where it's an absolute gauntlet because they play Oregon, Washington at Penn State. Then they get a bye. Then they have to play at Wisconsin, Ohio State, at Indiana. That's six teams that are really, really good.

• 1:43:32Speaker 00

  Uh, really?

• 1:43:35Speaker 03

  Well, you don't, you're not high on Penn State?

• 1:43:37Speaker 00

  Uh, no, I, I want to see what Wisconsin looks like with one. That's all.

• 1:43:41Speaker 03

  I thought it slipped one in. You also, you left off, uh, September 19th, they go to Piscataway. That's going to be one of those like 8am games probably. Yeah.

• 1:43:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:51Speaker 03

  They'll probably still beat them by 25.

• 1:43:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. I think Oregon's still scoring, uh, when they went to Rutgers.

• 1:43:57Speaker 03

  The schedule is, it really is crazy. Like I, here's another take I had. James Franklin would have made the playoffs this year with Penn State.

• 1:44:05Speaker 03

  Like they, it's, it's like.

• 1:44:06Speaker 00

  Why? So you have Penn State in the playoff?

• 1:44:08Speaker 03

  Matt Campbell could go to the playoffs this year and you, it could still be like, hey, that was, that was the wrong move to fire James Franklin. And, and he's not going to be like better long-term. But the way their schedule works out, Penn State has three games that they have to win. You know, they have to win one or two of them. They're USC at Michigan, at Washington. They don't get to play, they don't have to play Ohio State this year. They don't have to play Indiana. They don't have to play Oregon. If they go two and one in those, that's a 10-win team, 11-win team. And you're not going to leave them out. The Big 10, if you get to 10 and two or 11 and one in the Big 10, you're in. It doesn't matter. Your schedule could suck. Doesn't matter. So.

• 1:44:45Speaker 00

  Did you say Washington?

• 1:44:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:44:47Speaker 00

  All right.

• 1:44:47Speaker 03

  They have to play out USC at Michigan, at Washington. Like they finally got a reprieve in their schedule and James Franklin's not like, James Franklin's boogeyman is Ohio State. At the play-in this year.

• 1:44:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:44:59Speaker 03

  It's crazy. So like, I think Penn State could be that team that you mentioned that could be that, that fourth team in from the Big 10. Because their schedule allows it where their margin for error is a little bit, you know, like if they, if they can beat the teams they're supposed to beat, they got a three games schedule, basically.

• 1:45:17Speaker 00

  Listen, all we did last year at this time was talk about how hard Oklahoma's schedule was. And I, I was there. Like it was number one in the country. It was his toughest word. Matier got hurt. They barely had him a hundred percent. And they still made it a playoff because they played their balls off on defense and got wins on the road when they absolutely needed it to. So a 10 and two Big 10 team, like I get it. People are going to pick it apart, especially we're going to compare it to maybe a nine and three or a couple nine and three teams in the SEC. A 10 and two Big 10 teams getting in.

• 1:45:47Speaker 03

  Right. So that's why like, I, I just like, and I'm, the teams you mentioned, like Michigan, we talk about, I don't, I think Michigan is closer to winning, being a seven win team than a 10 win team. Unless Bryce Underwood is like massively better, which he definitely could be. But like that Michigan, it feels like I, more likely for the bottom to fall out, uh, on Bryce Underwood than, than Penn State.

• 1:46:11Speaker 00

  And Penn State goes to Michigan, right?

• 1:46:13Speaker 03

  Penn State goes to Michigan, but Michigan has a very tough schedule and Bryce Underwood, I'm not, I, I have to see, it's kind of like the Dante Moore's been better. So don't put them in the same category, but I got to see it to believe all the hype. You know what I mean? And, and was it the coaching staff was holding them back, which I'll buy. Their coaching staff upgrade is massive. Kyle Whittingham is seven million times better than Sharon Moore and whatever he was doing at the end of the season. But I just don't know if I can, I'm not ready to just jump in feet first with Bryce Underwood yet.

• 1:46:44Speaker 00

  And that's like, when you really look into Michigan and I, they're really, really interesting to me this year because I think the world of Whittingham as a coach. He's exactly what they need to get some order, uh, in that program. And you know, offensive coordinator Beck comes in, he, you know, led a charge of Utah flipping their rush offense upside down last year. I think they were third, or maybe even led the country. With the Dampier kid, you know, but then when you read into that. They had two, what? Top 12 tackles?

• 1:47:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:47:15Speaker 00

  You know, Michigan's gonna have a good offensive line, but I'm not doubting Michigan. They have opportunities like Oklahoma buckle. Like that is a really good physical game. Week two with Oklahoma and Michigan, and I like the idea that Michigan, you know, went to their place. It played them last year with a big, like, Whittingham's not going to give you any bulletin board material, but his team is going to be ready to go. So that that's a great matchup where we're going to get a good litmus test of of those teams and where they are. And then going back to those big 10 teams we mentioned with the Penn State, Michigan, USC.

• 1:47:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:47:47Speaker 00

  And Washington, they all play each other.

• 1:47:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:47:49Speaker 00

  Which is good.

• 1:47:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:47:50Speaker 00

  So, you know, you have a barometer to go off of there. And, you know, people were talking about, you know, the playoff expanding, whatever, like, it's not expanding yet. So we love college football for the regular season because the games mean something. So let's count them, you know, when they mean something. It's, it's kind of, you know, it happens every year. Like, look at Texas and Ohio State last year, you know, Texas didn't get any credit.

• 1:48:13Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:48:13Speaker 00

  Losing 14-7.

• 1:48:15Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:48:15Speaker 00

  And going, and then you see that defense for Ohio State just smother teams over and over and over, week after week after week. And you're like, uh, Texas, like, was right there.

• 1:48:24Speaker 03

  Yeah. It was more like, we saw that game, we were like, wow, Texas sucks.

• 1:48:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48:27Speaker 03

  Like, what a terrible, terrible offense they have. And then you learn a little bit as the season goes on.

• 1:48:32Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:48:33Speaker 03

  That, I mean, this year, what are they playing? Week two? Yeah, week two's loaded. Brian Sutter against Oklahoma, by the way, you're right. Like, that will be the test. And if he does, if he passes that test, I'll be fully believing in him. So with, with Texas, Ohio State will at least have one week where we can see some other teams that we can make fun of and be like, well, at least they're not that team. Um, I think I'm very, I'm as high on Texas as I've been since I've lived in Austin. I feel like they've got, they've got maybe the best roster in college football, maybe the most expensive roster in college football. I think, I think I've decided to believe in Arch until, until my eyes tell me otherwise this year, but I saw enough from him, I think, as, as the season was ending, like, this is a not hot seat, but there's going to be some scuttlebutt. There's going to be some talk about Sark if he

• 1:49:18Speaker 03

  doesn't get to a national championship this year, if he doesn't take this roster and, and feel like, you know, they, they almost need him to get into the national championship. That's what I'm feeling in Austin right now, where it's like, things can be, things can go off the rails with three wins or three losses. They have three losses. People behind the scenes will start to talk about Sark. What are your thoughts?

• 1:49:39Speaker 00

  I think it's a monster spot week two, because again, you know, with that physicality, Matt Patricia, you know, did an unbelievable job coming in Ohio State, and that was the whole talk going into that game. What was he gonna do? He put Arch in a blender. First play of the game, Texas just runs a simple rollout. Let's get a completion. Arch threw it in the dirt. And I'm like, oh, boy, this is what we're gonna get all day. And then you just see Ohio State's defense build and build and build. So I think it's a monster spot for Arch, knowing that he's seen Patricia. Uh, when you talk to people at Texas, they absolutely love the upgrades they got in the running back room and the wide receiver room. Uh, you know, McShay was talking the other day. I think it's a great talk for, you know, people, I'm not a big comp guy, but he was talking about

• 1:50:24Speaker 00

  Cam Coleman going to Texas. And, you know, Cam Coleman reminds me of A.J. Green when he was at Georgia in that same draft. Calvin Johnson, uh, was at Georgia Tech and, and Jeremiah Smith is, is, uh, is Calvin Johnson. So like, you have this, you know, methodical approach of looking at and, and comparison to look at receivers going down the road. But I, Texas, like, they never shy away from it. Like, things have got, like, they got run out of the building at Georgia last year. Like, they, they had their chance, uh, you know, but they, they come back and they beat A&M for their first loss of the season, and they were playing their best football at the end of the season. And everybody got too crazy last year with the preseason expectations. They started last name Manning, and it was like, oh, my God, number one Heisman, whatever. I was like, let the kid

• 1:51:08Speaker 00

  play. Let him play, man. Uh, it's a pretty big spotlight. He's got to play. So what they feel they have at the skill positions, uh, and then, you know, when you watch Texas back last year, it wasn't that fancy motion shift, uh, you know, you know, quick screen game that, that Sark had. You know, it was a more, hey, let's try and open up some windows so to help Arch throw in the football. It seemed pretty basic. Uh, they went through a ton of offensive line guys and didn't settle on, on their, their five until late in the year. So I expected, you know, it's big in Austin, and it changes every freaking time I go there with more stuff there, but it'll, it'll be monstrous, uh, week two with Ohio State coming in. Cause Ohio State, I mean, talk, you talk to

• 1:51:53Speaker 00

  people there, they have the, the worst taste in their mouth for what they look like, uh, in their last two games, giving up 10 sacks to Miami and Indiana. So plenty to prove, which is awesome, and what we want for week two in, in Austin.

• 1:52:05Speaker 03

  You, you paused there when PFT said most expensive roster. Who is the most expensive roster? Is it LSU?

• 1:52:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:52:10Speaker 03

  Do you think, do you think, do you think LSU, what's LSU's ceiling this year? We're biased, by the way. We are Lane fans. We just want to get that out in the open.

• 1:52:19Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, I saw.

• 1:52:21Speaker 03

  I don't know if you know that about us. We did yoga. We played, we played softball with him. Beat him. We did beat him, though. Yeah.

• 1:52:26Speaker 00

  Were those teams split up fair?

• 1:52:28Speaker 03

  Very, very. He actually loaded his team.

• 1:52:31Speaker 00

  Was there a draft?

• 1:52:32Speaker 03

  No, no. He took all his guys, including some coaches from the LSU softball team.

• 1:52:37Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:52:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. We got one of his guys who ended up being the MVP for our team, but that's neither here nor there. Yeah, we're just dialing, Steve.

• 1:52:45Speaker 00

  That was the last guy in the line. We just took him.

• 1:52:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, it just happened. Things shake out. You just don't know who's going where. We had Zach, you know, hitting, going like two for four. So we just hit it right at Lane, and he couldn't do anything about it. But what is there, what's a realistic season for, for Lane Kiffin? Because he is, like, if LSU can get some playoff this year with Lane, it's gonna be, it's gonna be incredible to watch.

• 1:53:07Speaker 00

  Oh, I mean, and now with this latest, uh, you know, getting a Cleveland Browns free agent, it's only getting, you know, there's only more smoke. Uh, I, I, I could see both ways, guys. Like, the way he has constructed this roster, you know, Levitt was highly sought after. Uh, you know, I just wanted to see more from him last year, and, you know, before he got hurt. Uh, he didn't look like the player he did, um, the year prior. He didn't look as motivated. Uh, when you, when you look at what Lane has done in, in assessing his roster and what he's brought in, like, they got this safety coming in, Benefield from Boise State. He's an absolute man child. You got Coach O on the D-line, you know, working with the true freshmen. It sounds like they're gonna play a ton. They don't look like true freshmen. Uh, the wide receiver room, it doesn't

• 1:53:51Speaker 00

  feel like they have that alpha guy, but it feels like they got plenty of guys. And it's another school, I'm not gonna worry about the running back at LSU. Like, they're gonna, they're gonna have a running back. The issue with LSU is the offensive line, and that's what's been the problem. That was Brian Kelly's downfall. They just didn't run the football. And when you are so one dimensional like that, you're gonna get teams that could tee off on your quarterback because you're in predictable situations and you don't have good talent up front. And, and Nussmeyer got bruised and battered and didn't even finish the season. So I think that's the first thing, um, you gotta shore up because, you know, Lane is this fun, you know, putting their arms up in the air when the ball's in the, in the air and seeing a touchdown before it

• 1:54:33Speaker 00

  happens and all that. He also is great at running the football, and that's what they need back at LSU. There, you, you go down there, those people, they want to play defense and run the football. That's what LSU people want. That's how they won national championships. That's what Coach Saban brought. That's what Les did when they won a national championship. So it's gotta be this turn of way of doing things. And I don't, I don't doubt Lane and Charlie. You know, I thought it was really interesting the other day when a reporter asked him about the green dot numbers. Did you see that?

• 1:55:02Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:55:02Speaker 00

  Him and Charlie Weiss are the number one tandem, since they put the green dot in the quarterback's helmet.

• 1:55:08Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 1:55:09Speaker 00

  Number one in points, number one in yards, and number one in yards per play.

• 1:55:12Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 1:55:13Speaker 00

  And it's like.

• 1:55:14Speaker 03

  Yep. They know what they're doing. Yeah.

• 1:55:16Speaker 00

  They know what they're doing.

• 1:55:17Speaker 03

  Talk to your quarterback. Yeah.

• 1:55:19Speaker 00

  You know, it's still a kid out there, you know, Trinidad doing his thing last year, but there's definitely a, a way of going about things where they seem to have, feel really good about, and the numbers say they're the best at what they do. So I am not doubting them. Uh, it's just a lot of managing expectations. Like, this line now is getting to like over 10 points against Clemson. I'd be careful there because I think, or I believe LSU is gonna be more of a defensive team to start the season. Uh, when, when I look at what they have, uh, talent wise, and that home crowd and bringing Blake Baker back in weeks at linebacker, I, I really think they're gonna trust their defense and not play this loosey goosey crazy offense where your

• 1:56:00Speaker 00

  turnovers could hurt you. So I think a button down approach to start for LSU because, you know, week one, and then you got whoever week two, and then week three is just gonna be a circus.

• 1:56:11Speaker 03

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  is an addictive chemical. I have the apple ice, so go check out Lucy today. We love Lucy. Go get one today. Lucy.co/pmt with code PMT. Now, back to Stanford, Steve. So, yeah, September 19th at Oxford. LSU Ole Miss, is there going to be a, an angrier stadium in the entire country this year? I feel like that, maybe this decade, this feels like that's going to be a crazy environment to go into. I mean, you're talking about the green dot stuff.

• 1:57:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:57:23Speaker 03

  If, if I'm Ole Miss, I'm probably trying to figure out a way to screw up the green dot stuff. Like if I get, get Belichick's people on the line, figure out how to, how to like jam the communications, whatever the case may be, but like they know all of his tricks. So that's going to be a crazy environment.

• 1:57:37Speaker 00

  Uh, yeah. The one thing I'll say is being at the Fiesta Bowl last year and being around Ole Miss fans, it was, it was so weird, like not weird, but like, I guess I was kind of caught off guard that they were totally fine. Like let go, like, we were trying to win a national championship. But you know, and it was like, they just, he just kept getting in the way and stall is like, we have games away. We're in the playoff. We have a chance that we haven't had. And it seems like forever. Uh, so I, I, yes, they're, they're put it this way, there's going to be a very strong want to win feeling in the building, I think in Oxford. Uh,

• 1:58:17Speaker 03

  Ooh, make that a graphic. Yeah. Ole Miss is going to want to beat LSU, week three. They're going to lead. Stanford, Steve. They're going to lead the league in wanting. Yeah.

• 1:58:26Speaker 00

  On that day. On September 19th.

• 1:58:29Speaker 03

  Give me, give me your, uh, cause we've talked a lot about some really good SCC teams, or I guess some teams, a lot of expectations in the SCC. Can you give me your, your top five SCC power rankings?

• 1:58:38Speaker 00

  Oh, uh, Georgia, Texas, Oklahoma, Ole Miss.

• 1:58:48Speaker 03

  LSU.

• 1:58:50Speaker 00

  Probably LSU.

• 1:58:50Speaker 03

  Alabama's, this could be a bad season.

• 1:58:53Speaker 00

  Oh, wait, no, I put, I'll put Alabama.

• 1:58:54Speaker 03

  You put Alabama? Okay.

• 1:58:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, Alabama. Yeah.

• 1:58:56Speaker 03

  What, what?

• 1:58:57Speaker 00

  I love the quarterback.

• 1:58:58Speaker 03

  Is Kalen DeBoer, like if this, if this goes sideways, this feels like.

• 1:59:03Speaker 00

  What is sideways? They, they're the only team to win a road playoff game.

• 1:59:06Speaker 03

  I know, but it's Alabama. I'm not, listen, Steve, I, I'm not saying like if, we're, we're talking about what expectations are for fanbases. If, if Alabama not winning a national title the last three years, ask 95% of fanbases in college football, they'd take that season. I would, I would kill for Alabama's season the last three years, but it's Alabama. You know that if they don't go to the playoff, if they lose, you know, some big games, people are going to fuck. They had a lady last year who said that she wins Powerball, she's going to just buy them out right there.

• 1:59:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. I didn't hear from her after they went to Georgia and won. Uh,

• 1:59:43Speaker 03

  Well, that Kirby's got an Alabama problem.

• 1:59:46Speaker 00

  I got you. And then he got it, you know, he got revenge, uh, in the SCC championship game. Look, it's, it's the same deal as Oregon, you know, how bad the Taster was, they got destroyed by Indiana. Like you're not the only team that Indiana did that to.

• 2:00:00Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:00:00Speaker 00

  I mean, Illinois, they, what'd they score? 70?

• 2:00:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:00:03Speaker 00

  You know, that was like a top 10 game and we never heard from Illinois really the rest of the season. So I, I just managing expectations. Oh yeah. It sounds great. Really fun stuff, but let's be real here. Like you, it's a different day and age. You, you, you got in the playoff, uh, you had an awesome win, uh, being there for that and seeing that building. I was like, I was the only one on the desk that picked Alabama. I did not feel great when the stadium went dark and they started playing the music.

• 2:00:29Speaker 03

  Steve, you picked Alabama?

• 2:00:31Speaker 00

  I did against Oklahoma.

• 2:00:33Speaker 03

  Oh, against Oklahoma. I'm not, no, I, I thought you meant against Indiana.

• 2:00:37Speaker 00

  No, 10 and one in the playoffs.

• 2:00:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. That was, so that was a good pick. Good pick by you there. That was.

• 2:00:43Speaker 00

  We get once, once in a while.

• 2:00:44Speaker 03

  Yeah. Although Oklahoma had them and it's just, oh, that was so bad when, when transpired. They had them, they had them dead.

• 2:00:52Speaker 00

  And, and that's like, it's a, is it a one-off? I don't know, but it's the only road team to go win and look how it happened.

• 2:00:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:00:59Speaker 00

  You know?

• 2:01:00Speaker 03

  No, you're not wrong. I'm just saying, I, listen.

• 2:01:02Speaker 00

  I mean, the kicker was, uh, what is it? Lou Groza? He missed field goals.

• 2:01:05Speaker 03

  I'm, I'm just telling you like what Alabama fan, you know it better than anyone. Alabama fans, they expect national championships. So.

• 2:01:12Speaker 00

  I think they gotta be better.

• 2:01:13Speaker 03

  Anything, sure. All right. Wait, there's one team you didn't mention that's probably going to be really pissed because you actually, PFT asked for five, you gave six and you didn't say Texas A&M and their fanbase, I don't know if you know this, they're, they just get triggered by everything.

• 2:01:27Speaker 00

  And I love them for that.

• 2:01:28Speaker 03

  Yeah. So they're mad right now, listening to this.

• 2:01:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh yeah.

• 2:01:31Speaker 03

  They're slamming their fucking class rings on the, on the table, being like this idiot who doesn't even eat wings anymore.

• 2:01:38Speaker 00

  Ring, when the ring hits, yeah.

• 2:01:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:01:40Speaker 00

  Uh, I just, your schedule's tougher than it was last year. I mean, we got to be frank there, you know, other coordinator, coordinator changes too there. And, uh, they lost some guys, man. They, they, they had some playmaking. I mean, Casey Concepcion, the guys on the defense, I, I got, I want to see them step up and do it. I love Elko, uh, as good as a defensive mind as there is in the sport. Again, another, I'm not doubting him. I don't have him ranked right now. And that's, that's what's fun about the preseason stuff, right? I, I had Clemson and Penn State playing the national championship game last year, not the pinstripe bowl.

• 2:02:17Speaker 03

  Hmm. Yeah. Kenny Walker also had that. What do you, what do you think about, about Clemson? Just in general, big picture stuff. I feel like this, it's kind of been like Dabo is not, I haven't expected anything out of Dabo for the last couple of seasons, and I don't think Clemson's going to fire him. I think he might fire Clemson and just be like, I'm done with college football.

• 2:02:36Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:02:37Speaker 03

  Um, or go to a different school that'll just let me be me. But I feel like things could go off the rails pretty early this year.

• 2:02:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, there's, there's monstrous spots, right? And when you listen to Dabo, there is a trust he has in his program and what he's built with his staff. And then with the quarterback situation, like, you know, everybody knows they, they don't violate the portal like other teams have. They did go get some guys. Um, but I think it's just a test to go see what you got Saturday night in Baton Rouge. Like you, you have to give a good showing because talk about stuff that doesn't make sense. Like we were saying, oh yeah, they underachieved last year. Look how many guys got drafted off the defense.

• 2:03:17Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:03:17Speaker 00

  Like it's crazy. The NFL talent they had, and they just couldn't get, you know, I, I don't know if motivation was a factor, but you know, Clubnik didn't look like the same guy. He had his best receiver hurt. Like all the stuff happens to all these teams, but just when you look back at Clemson and see the amount of NFL talent they had, and they played in the pinstripe bowl, that doesn't make sense. So I, that's why I was saying before, I, I expect Clemson to come in with a sound plan. Uh, you know, try not to get that place rocking early on, or it could be a long night, but it, there's a, you know, a self, a self grit test they got when they go into Baton Rouge.

• 2:03:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:03:57Speaker 00

  To see what, you know, what they're made of. And, you know, I'm not saying a close loss is a win. Uh, but you have to man up and, and, and show that you're here to play and, and you have a foundation for the season because last year, right off the get, it was done. They were done.

• 2:04:12Speaker 03

  Yeah. All right. A couple more questions real quick. Uh, big 12, if not Texas Tech, then who? Because everyone has Texas Tech as a foregone conclusion. Uh, they are, they are the best team. They don't have a tough schedule, but who?

• 2:04:27Speaker 00

  Okay. Uh, I, uh, I'm in the belief that to your point, it can't be this easy.

• 2:04:35Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:04:36Speaker 00

  It, it cannot be this easy because again, another team, I watched David Bailey a couple snaps the other night, like forgetting he was a college football player last year. Like he's going to be fine for the Jets. That dude's a man child. He did look better in Stanford Cardinal, uh, but he's in, in Jets green now. I said, I believe West Virginia plays in the big 12 championship.

• 2:04:57Speaker 03

  I like that. Rich Rod, they got, they.

• 2:05:00Speaker 00

  When you look at the big 12, you look at their home schedule, everyone hates going to play in Morgantown. I love going to games there. Their, their fans are awesome. Uh, one of my favorites in the whole sport. But when you look what he's got, he had, he got, uh, the kid Cook from Jacksonville State was the nation's leading rusher. He got Hawkins, who's more of a runner. Uh, I always love Rich Rod's offense when he has a quarterback that, you know, can be part of the run game. And, you know, Texas Tech is going to be really good defensively and you're going to have to have some diversity offensively. And I just looked down the rung and, and I looked at what West Virginia plays at home and I like their chances. I trust Rich Rod. I, I feel like he's, he's, he's not going to let

• 2:05:43Speaker 00

  you, you know, inside. Uh, but I have a trust in, in, he's done it before, you know, and, and with all the changeover and see these, like Kansas State, everybody loves their schedule. I just look at how much changeover they have. Like all their best players are gone and they got a new head coach and he's a former, you know, great at the school. Um, it's his first time doing it. BYU, probably as good as there is up front in that league, but is Bear Bachmeyer going to be a, uh, you know, is he going to win games throwing the football? I got to see that first. And I, I didn't see that last year and it, and it sucked at the end of last year too, because he was hurt and playing on one leg. Uh, but I went off the cuff there and, and, you know, little juice that said West Virginia's in the big 12 title game.

• 2:06:25Speaker 03

  I like that. I like that. Take a shot at it. Now, are we going to have any conversations about, uh, Deion Sanders being one of the best three coaches in college football this year, like we did a couple of years ago? Any chance at all that happens?

• 2:06:37Speaker 00

  I, I don't see that happen. I just look at the roster and it just doesn't add up. And I, you know, look at their schedule compared to Texas Tech. Uh, I, I think they're for one. Now, like again, they're another team, like they could go, they go to Georgia Tech, they could wow everybody. That's going to be on, you know, I think that's Friday night, like standalone game. Show what you got and, and, and get people to believe in it. But the way Georgia Tech's built, I'll take that matchup against Colorado.

• 2:07:03Speaker 03

  Yeah. Um, here's a dumb question for you, Steve. Um, what team is this year's Indiana?

• 2:07:15Speaker 03

  I got one for you. I mean, they're not going to be Indiana. They're not going to win it all. It's a dumb question. Oklahoma State.

• 2:07:23Speaker 00

  I gotta see it.

• 2:07:24Speaker 03

  Everyone coming from North Texas?

• 2:07:27Speaker 00

  When I watched North Texas in their big games last year, it was not good.

• 2:07:30Speaker 03

  Listen, I agree. I'm just saying like a similar level up coach, brings a lot of their roster. Maybe shocks some people, especially, you know, how bad they have been the last couple of years. Oklahoma State has been like, like almost depressingly bad. They're not going to be Indiana, but like that could be a team that, you know, could shock some people a little bit. I'd be down for some like old school Oklahoma State, like 50 to 60 losses under the lights, like some of those North Texas. They're gonna score.

• 2:07:59Speaker 00

  Pistol Pete's the best mascot in the sport.

• 2:08:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, agree.

• 2:08:02Speaker 00

  I love him. He, he gave me a hug in the Fiesta Bowl when they, when Stanford missed the field goal. Uh, and Oklahoma State won.

• 2:08:09Speaker 03

  That's nice.

• 2:08:09Speaker 00

  His head is the biggest thing in the world.

• 2:08:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:08:12Speaker 00

  Uh, no, it'd be great. I'm with you, uh, PFT, like to see Stillwater back as a place that people hate going to play would be awesome. I look at other teams that just have not even been close to what, uh, they want to be.

• 2:08:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:08:28Speaker 00

  And Florida and Auburn play week three.

• 2:08:31Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 2:08:32Speaker 00

  The winner of that game, watch out.

• 2:08:33Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:08:34Speaker 00

  They're, they're, again, to your point, Dan, I don't think they can win the national championship.

• 2:08:38Speaker 03

  But they could.

• 2:08:39Speaker 00

  They're gonna catch some teams, man. Uh, I love both those hires and those are two places like, you know, we look at, you know, the, the schedule of the season. I'm like, man, I would really love for game day to go back to Gainesville or, or Auburn. We haven't been there in so long. And it just tells you they've been off the map. So I know those two schools are very, uh, not good at managing their expectations.

• 2:09:02Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:09:02Speaker 00

  Uh, as we've talked about a lot on this podcast, uh, but the winner of that game, it's going to get out of control real quick. Uh, so I, that, that's a very interesting game to me.

• 2:09:13Speaker 03

  It's such a dumb question to ask you because like it, we, it really puts into perspective like how crazy Indiana has been. That entire story. It's like, you can't say who's the next Indiana because.

• 2:09:23Speaker 00

  They're the worst program ever in the history of this.

• 2:09:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's never been an Indiana before Indiana. So how can you be like.

• 2:09:28Speaker 00

  Probably never be another one.

• 2:09:28Speaker 03

  The year after, but the, the answer to the question is actually UCLA. If somebody asks you, you just say UCLA because.

• 2:09:35Speaker 00

  Handsome Bob?

• 2:09:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, handsome Bob. Ed, are you familiar with Frankie Volcano?

• 2:09:39Speaker 00

  Uh, I believe he was asked about him in the, at media day.

• 2:09:42Speaker 03

  Was he really? Well, we asked him about it. Yeah.

• 2:09:45Speaker 00

  I thought Liam did.

• 2:09:46Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, yeah, we, we, yeah, the royal, he was, he's part of the team. Yeah.

• 2:09:51Speaker 00

  All right.

• 2:09:51Speaker 03

  The team asked him about it.

• 2:09:52Speaker 00

  I didn't know. I didn't know if there was different sections.

• 2:09:54Speaker 03

  No, Frankie, the team asked him about Frankie.

• 2:09:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, they went out there and did practice and everything, right?

• 2:09:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:10:00Speaker 00

  I really wanted handsome Bob to do big 10 media in his sunglasses. Cause like that guy could pull it off.

• 2:10:06Speaker 03

  That would've been nice.

• 2:10:07Speaker 00

  Whatever he wants.

• 2:10:08Speaker 03

  That'd be good. What about, um, what about UNC? How is, are we going to fast forward to, uh, to January? And we're going to say returning for the 2027 season is coach Bill Belichick?

• 2:10:20Speaker 00

  I have a question for you guys.

• 2:10:22Speaker 03

  We love, we love Jordan. That's my answer.

• 2:10:26Speaker 00

  If.

• 2:10:26Speaker 03

  Sharp, smart girl.

• 2:10:28Speaker 00

  Can anything happen? For Belichick's era at North Carolina to be as bad as Urban Meyer was with the Jags?

• 2:10:37Speaker 03

  Hmm. I mean, yeah, he could put his finger where it shouldn't be.

• 2:10:41Speaker 00

  Oh, geez.

• 2:10:42Speaker 03

  He's, he's respectful. He's got a lovely lady. I'm just saying, like, you asked the question. I mean, yeah, yeah, I guess it could happen, but yeah, I don't want to think about it. Like, what's their schedule? Where, where do they go early this year?

• 2:10:56Speaker 00

  Way tougher than it was last year.

• 2:10:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, they started TCU last year. Remember that? Um, well, they started TCU again. In Dublin. Okay, yeah, yeah. Okay, so like if, yeah, fingers go places they shouldn't in St. James Gate in Ireland.

• 2:11:10Speaker 00

  This way.

• 2:11:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, you shouldn't have. That was on you, dude. That, you know what that is? That's a guy who hasn't, who's only had chicken broth for the last 12 hours.

• 2:11:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:11:18Speaker 03

  You're getting, you're starting to hallucinate. Yeah. Guys like us shouldn't be doing that. Yeah. He's walking back onto the plane. They're like, sir, what's that on your fingers? She's like. You can't be doing that. Oh, no, don't worry. That's just Guinness. I can see what you're thinking. Can't be doing that, Steve. Uh, all right. I, I, my last question, then we have Zach's question coming up. Uh, Steve, you're, it's a trivia question and then off of that, I want to, I want to hear a, a, a, a follow-up question. But 10 of the 12 national champions in the college football era have been preseason ranked top five. Who are the two that were not preseason ranked top five?

• 2:11:56Speaker 00

  Indiana.

• 2:11:57Speaker 03

  Yes. It's an easy one.

• 2:12:04Speaker 00

  Preseason top five?

• 2:12:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, preseason top five.

• 2:12:10Speaker 00

  Georgia, Bama, Ohio State.

• 2:12:14Speaker 03

  All right, this is bad. This is bad podcasting. Let me give you the answer. 2019 LSU, number six. Is your national? Yeah, they were number six. Is your national champion a preseason top five team?

• 2:12:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:12:28Speaker 03

  It's Notre Dame?

• 2:12:29Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:12:30Speaker 03

  Okay. I like that. Are you worried that they're, I guess in the new, in the new like college football landscape with scheduling? It's, and I, I know there's this whole thing with Indiana and they play a soft schedule in the preseason. It doesn't matter because of what they did in the, the totality of the season last year. But I, I do think like playing cupcakes, yes, your margin for error might get a little smaller, but you also have fresher bodies. Like Notre Dame is not going to have to go through some of the wars that some of these, you know, the big 10 and SEC teams might have to go through to get to the finish line.

• 2:13:05Speaker 00

  And there, there are one thing I would point to that concerns me. And you talked about having fresh bodies. They don't have a backup quarterback that's had a, a, a one college snap.

• 2:13:17Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 2:13:17Speaker 00

  You know, so like that, that, but like if they get healthy, if they stay healthy and Miami stays healthy, like we are, that game in South Bend is going to be.

• 2:13:26Speaker 03

  Awesome.

• 2:13:26Speaker 00

  Fantastic.

• 2:13:28Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 2:13:28Speaker 00

  Uh, so let's hope for good health for everybody.

• 2:13:33Speaker 03

  Who is their backup quarterback? I think Notre Dame leads the league in having backup quarterbacks that are like 5'8".

• 2:13:37Speaker 00

  Just read freshman.

• 2:13:39Speaker 03

  They always got a short backup quarterback. They got, they have some Italian? Uh, no, he's actually pretty, he's tall. They got a freshman, uh, Noah Grubbs, who's 6'4".

• 2:13:51Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 2:13:51Speaker 03

  So there you go. Yeah, they actually have a very tall quarterback room. Good for them. That's nice. Yeah.

• 2:13:57Speaker 00

  No, no.

• 2:13:58Speaker 03

  You know what I mean? They used to throw in a quarterback.

• 2:14:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:14:01Speaker 03

  They'd just be like, wait, this guy's playing quarterback for Notre Dame? So yeah, they got a good, they got a good room. They got a nice tall room. Uh, Steve, before, before Zach jumps in, your ACC, uh, I feel like there's, there's always one team that's like spoiler. You are ACC. You are literally ACC. I think ACC, I, I, I think Steve. No, Stanford Steve. Stanford, well, no, well, Steve, just, just Steve. Yeah. Uh, AC Steve is what we call him. So if you, I'm looking at the ACC, it feels like every year there's one team that's not picked to be high going into the year. That's very, very frisky. Maybe they're not finishing like, you know, in, in the top 10 or near the top 10, but they're capable of beating a top 10 team. On any given night, maybe they have one or two big upsets over the year. Uh, what team in the ACC outside Miami?

• 2:14:46Speaker 03

  Cause I think they're like minus 180, like we talked about to win the ACC. Um, what other team in the conference do you think can maybe play spoiler or be in that conversation at the end of the year?

• 2:14:58Speaker 00

  Uh, hmm. I can't say Cal.

• 2:15:04Speaker 03

  Uh, Virginia Tech. You just said Cal, but.

• 2:15:06Speaker 00

  Virginia Tech.

• 2:15:07Speaker 03

  Okay. Okay.

• 2:15:08Speaker 00

  James Franklin.

• 2:15:09Speaker 03

  I think it's a great place for James Franklin. I think that, um, they're getting a lot of money invested into the athletic department. I think it's a perfect place for him.

• 2:15:19Speaker 00

  I just like no fans of that team and like they're just starving for, for something. And then I, I read and like the guy they fired, that was the head coach, Brett Pryke. Franklin brought him back. He's the defensive coordinator. He just got fired last year. Like.

• 2:15:37Speaker 03

  I love that though.

• 2:15:38Speaker 00

  Only in college football. I mean, he was fantastic as a coordinator for Franklin at Penn State.

• 2:15:43Speaker 03

  Coach O's on the LSU staff. It's great.

• 2:15:46Speaker 00

  There you go.

• 2:15:46Speaker 03

  Rich Rod's coaching West Virginia. It's like. Yeah, you can always go home. You can always have it come back.

• 2:15:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's a good point there.

• 2:15:52Speaker 03

  It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Um, yeah, go ahead.

• 2:15:56Speaker 00

  I got something for PFT.

• 2:15:57Speaker 03

  Okay, okay. Urban Meyer to Florida in the spirit of forgive and forget. Ooh.

• 2:16:01Speaker 00

  Nope.

• 2:16:01Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:16:02Speaker 00

  Um.

• 2:16:04Speaker 03

  Nick Saban to Michigan State.

• 2:16:06Speaker 00

  What's the commander's record after the first three games?

• 2:16:09Speaker 03

  Okay, so first three games, we got, we got the birds on the road. Yeah.

• 2:16:14Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 2:16:14Speaker 03

  I'm taking it one week at a time. So let me look up the commander's schedule here.

• 2:16:18Speaker 00

  Okay, I'm just going to give you this nugget.

• 2:16:19Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:16:20Speaker 00

  Uh, they're the only team in the NFL that opens with two straight road division games.

• 2:16:27Speaker 03

  Hmm. Okay. All right. We go to the Eagles, then to the Cowboys, then home against the Seahawks. I hate the opening in a, in a division game sucks. I think they shouldn't do division games week one. We're going to be. You gotta ease yourself into it. A much different team by the end of the season.

• 2:16:42Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:16:43Speaker 03

  Um, than we are in week one. I'm gonna, you know what? That's going to be interesting because we had Sean Mannion and he's going up against David Blau. We don't know what those offenses are going to look like. Two hot names, hot young coordinators, like expect some fireworks out of that one. Um, I think. Realistically, probably, probably one and two after the first three weeks.

• 2:17:05Speaker 00

  Okay, let's just, let's just say things go wrong and it's 0-3.

• 2:17:10Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:17:11Speaker 00

  Okay, I'm gonna give you some hope here. Here you go.

• 2:17:13Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:17:14Speaker 00

  Since this current division format in 2002, 112 teams have started 0-3, 2 have made the playoffs.

• 2:17:27Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:17:28Speaker 00

  So there's hope.

• 2:17:28Speaker 03

  There is hope.

• 2:17:29Speaker 00

  That's one point, that's 1.8% of those.

• 2:17:31Speaker 03

  That didn't feel like you were giving me hope. That actually felt like.

• 2:17:35Speaker 00

  If it happens, they're.

• 2:17:36Speaker 03

  Like you're gonna go 0-3, but then don't worry because it's almost impossible to make the playoffs if you go 0-3. It's only the Texans too, because I think both of those have been my pinky teams.

• 2:17:48Speaker 03

  No, it does, the schedule softens up a little bit after that, Steve, but I think, I think it's gonna be 1-2.

• 2:17:53Speaker 00

  Don't, people are going crazy here, okay?

• 2:17:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:17:57Speaker 00

  Just relax, relax.

• 2:17:59Speaker 03

  What, what's your take on, on Jaden?

• 2:18:02Speaker 00

  Keep him upright, he'll be fine.

• 2:18:04Speaker 03

  Do you have, do you have any thoughts on, uh? His mom? His mom or, or numbers in general?

• 2:18:09Speaker 00

  I've seen her out at practice.

• 2:18:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, she's active. She's on the staff. Loves watching ball. She's, she's the commander's big Dom.

• 2:18:19Speaker 00

  I guess you could put it that way.

• 2:18:20Speaker 03

  She actually might be more involved with the football. Yeah, she's, she's definitely a Dom, trust me, yeah. Uh, all right, uh, row back question, r h o b a c k dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase, Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. By the way, Steve has, uh, already verbally agreed that week three, what, you have verbally agreed, week three, Bears, Eagles, at Soldier Field, Steve is gonna be on the West Coast, I believe, before that, he's going to come and watch a Sunday slate with us. Oh, I love that. Cause he's gotta work on Monday here in Chicago. That'd be great. You can't, you can't coward out of that.

• 2:19:03Speaker 00

  As long as I'm there, yes.

• 2:19:05Speaker 03

  You're gonna be, what, oh, you think the colonoscopy is not gonna go well?

• 2:19:09Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:19:09Speaker 03

  You're never gonna wake up?

• 2:19:11Speaker 00

  I'll, I'll be all right.

• 2:19:12Speaker 03

  Text me when you wake up, because I'll, I'll be thinking about that tonight, like all night, just being like, why'd I say that? And Steve, we're, we're gonna go to a Wizards game at some point this year too. Courtside, feet on the wood.

• 2:19:22Speaker 00

  This is the year.

• 2:19:23Speaker 03

  Me and you, yeah. Uh, all right, Zach.

• 2:19:26Speaker 00

  How we doing? Sir, I did have a quick question, uh, with, uh, Tommy Castellanos, you know, inevitably hitting the portal to Texas Tech and, uh, Ashton Daniels being named the QB1 at Florida State. Their win total this year, I think it says five and a half right now, do you think they can supersede that or is it gonna be tough this season? Florida State? Yes, sir. Yeah, I like the over. Okay, that's huge. I like the over. Big for the program. Yes, gotta get, you gotta get it going somewhere. They don't have to go out to Stanford, I mean, their, their season was lost when they went out to Stanford last year and lost, like that was, you don't, you don't get back from that.

• 2:19:59Speaker 03

  One of those wins could be against, uh, Alabama?

• 2:20:01Speaker 00

  Boston College. Uh, I don't think so. Do you think one of those wins could be against Miami or Florida? No. There.

• 2:20:12Speaker 03

  What about Stanford? What, what do you see out of Stanford football this year?

• 2:20:16Speaker 00

  Uh, it's, I like what they're doing, it's just, here's the deal, like, we talked about LSU, how fast, right? There, there's whispers of just south of $50 million on their roster, okay? That's not happening at Stanford. It's a slower process and, like I said, the Miami game is just to get out alive, because I just don't like the matchup and what that set you up against. We talked about what happens when you play after Georgia. It's gonna happen a lot in the ACC the week after you play Miami, you're gonna be, you know, the roster's just not deep. I love what Andrew's doing, uh, Tavita is, is done really well.

• 2:20:57Speaker 00

  They got, you know, a quarterback with experience, they have experience on the offensive line, uh, and they have guys coming back on defense, so, you know, 500, go to a bowl game would be astounding to me. Uh, last year was, I mean, what they looked like against Hawaii and then they beat Cal the way they did, I, I didn't see that coming in a million years, so they're taking the right steps. It's an absolute ultimate place they have to be in the belief of developing players, and I think there, there is that belief. Uh, so it's just, you know, it's tough when they do have these outliers that, you know, they go, David Bailey that just, you know, sees opportunity and is gonna leave, that's gonna happen. Uh, so hopefully you build a stronger foundation and it keeps going.

• 2:21:39Speaker 03

  You guys have a lot of rich alumni. You guys start tapping into that money, you got, you know, I'm sure a lot of the, the, the crypto guys or they've got Stanford connections, I'm sure, like Tiger Woods, maybe he can contribute some money. Like, you guys are leaning on some of these guys, you have a very wealthy donor base.

• 2:21:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, I, I mean, they're, they're, they've raised the money, the, the issue, and it's always been that, is, is getting the players into school there.

• 2:22:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:22:04Speaker 00

  It's like Wisconsin.

• 2:22:05Speaker 03

  So smart.

• 2:22:05Speaker 00

  It's a high academic school.

• 2:22:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, it is, it's hard, dude. You sound like, uh, what's, what was our fucking coach's name, Utah State, that guy was a fucking idiot.

• 2:22:15Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:22:16Speaker 03

  What was his name? I, I like memory hold him for two years, god damn it. God, Gary, no, ah, fuck.

• 2:22:24Speaker 00

  Gary Anderson.

• 2:22:26Speaker 03

  The right, was that it?

• 2:22:29Speaker 03

  I believe that was.

• 2:22:32Speaker 03

  Yes. To be fair, that's a very forgettable name. Yeah, no, he was so, he was so bad and he, he complained, he's like, I can't get my guys in. It's like, dude, come on, just start cheating, dude, it can't be that, like, we're not Stanford.

• 2:22:44Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:22:46Speaker 03

  Like, figure it out.

• 2:22:47Speaker 00

  Hey, Wisconsin got up off the deck last year, I'll say that.

• 2:22:50Speaker 03

  I agree, our defense can be good.

• 2:22:52Speaker 00

  You gotta have some belief in that.

• 2:22:53Speaker 03

  Colton Joseph, we'll see what we got. Week one, don't freak out, Notre Dame's really fucking good.

• 2:22:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, play well.

• 2:22:59Speaker 03

  And we finally got a nice schedule in our favor, because we've had just a gauntlet, let's just, let's keep, let's keep a quarterback healthy and see where, where it goes.

• 2:23:07Speaker 00

  And the last year showed me something.

• 2:23:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, I agree, we got some dogs on defense. Uh, all right, Steve.

• 2:23:12Speaker 00

  Go bowling.

• 2:23:13Speaker 03

  You're the best, good luck tomorrow, uh, wings on us when you come for week three, we'll make up for it, all right? We'll make up for your lack of food tonight with week three wings.

• 2:23:23Speaker 00

  Do you think I'm gonna have an issue with making up?

• 2:23:25Speaker 03

  No, and we'll make Titus eat some wings too, and watch him, and watch him go puke it up. He won't do it. He'll like pretend to eat them and then just.

• 2:23:34Speaker 00

  Hey, one thing before we go, it was great hearing Coach Gruden call a game last night.

• 2:23:39Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, he's the man. His voice needs to be on TV.

• 2:23:42Speaker 00

  Fired up.

• 2:23:43Speaker 03

  People forget, he was so fucking good at TV.

• 2:23:45Speaker 00

  He knew every single player on the field, that's all I ask.

• 2:23:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:23:50Speaker 00

  He was.

• 2:23:50Speaker 03

  Loves it, he cares about it. Yeah. Uh, all right, Steve, you're the best, thank you, man.

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  Check out the Krack Card, K R A K, the Krack Card, live in the US now. More of emojis, uh, right now in the duel, 1v1v1. We have, uh, what is the updating, oh, I have the updated standings right here.

• 2:26:27Speaker 00

  I don't know how I came in second on Friday. I thought I fucking crushed that.

• 2:26:31Speaker 03

  Oh, I was gonna say, dude, Zach submitted the worst draft of all time. Yeah. I still think that maybe, maybe Coach Jack was a good pick. I think. Gravesdigger was just a hard start. I think Zach's just maybe ahead of his time.

• 2:26:44Speaker 00

  I think I just took master too literally, because definitely mind you could have mastered Cole picks on there, no way guys are mastering overnight.

• 2:26:51Speaker 03

  I think maybe, it's almost like some of your picks, I think would be better understand by maybe listeners of a different podcast. Like maybe listeners of, maybe somebody that works on a different podcast would have a lot in common with you.

• 2:27:05Speaker 03

  Maybe a lady named Rudy, I don't know. Where are we at for that?

• 2:27:10Speaker 00

  Have you heard back from her? Uh, no, no, no.

• 2:27:13Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:27:13Speaker 00

  I don't think I do Rushmore season.

• 2:27:17Speaker 03

  Okay. What'd you say?

• 2:27:18Speaker 00

  I don't think they do.

• 2:27:20Speaker 03

  I think everybody does Rushmore season.

• 2:27:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:27:22Speaker 03

  Okay, uh, PFT has six points, Zach has four, Hank has three.

• 2:27:28Speaker 02

  Going on the road this week though, that's huge for me.

• 2:27:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, you are a road dog. Uh, PFT has the first pick for Mount Rushmore of emojis, he tried to trade it with Hank. Yeah, I did. Unsuccessfully. I don't, I don't love having first pick in this draft. It is a tone setter pick. It is, yeah. Cause it feels like whatever you're about to say, they're gonna say good pick, or they're gonna be like, what? Yeah, what, why? Yeah, oh shit, that's not even on my board. Okay. I also wanted to just say, PFT, I defend you in this because I feel like as, uh, the elder statesman of this podcast, we are, we are less emoji, you, we have less emoji usage. So you're playing with, on a curve, I'm judging you on a curve, I'm gonna give you the better.

• 2:28:11Speaker 03

  That's fine, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna stay true to my game and true to my heart, and I'm not gonna try to relate or be anybody that I'm not, so I'm gonna stick with the ones that I use. And, uh, we'll go with those. So first overall, I'm gonna go with.

• 2:28:26Speaker 03

  I'm gonna go with the eyeballs.

• 2:28:28Speaker 00

  Which ones?

• 2:28:29Speaker 03

  The, the one that's like

• 2:28:30Speaker 00

  Two eyeballs?

• 2:28:30Speaker 03

  Two eyeballs looking to the side a little bit.

• 2:28:32Speaker 00

  This one?

• 2:28:33Speaker 03

  That's the one, yeah.

• 2:28:34Speaker 00

  I agree with that.

• 2:28:35Speaker 03

  Because that could mean anything.

• 2:28:36Speaker 00

  It's a great pick.

• 2:28:37Speaker 03

  It's, it leaves the, the recipient of the emoji, curious to say the least.

• 2:28:41Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:28:43Speaker 03

  And if you just tweet out the eyeballs, then people, they start to talk.

• 2:28:46Speaker 00

  Yep. I like that pick.

• 2:28:48Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:28:48Speaker 02

  It's a good pick.

• 2:28:49Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 2:28:49Speaker 00

  Would you have it on your board?

• 2:28:51Speaker 03

  Of course you did.

• 2:28:52Speaker 02

  I actually didn't.

• 2:28:53Speaker 00

  Oh, god damn it.

• 2:28:54Speaker 02

  But I, that's a good pick. I should, I should.

• 2:28:56Speaker 00

  Okay, so you have a bad draft.

• 2:28:58Speaker 02

  I could.

• 2:29:00Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:29:03Speaker 00

  Hank?

• 2:29:04Speaker 03

  Wait, no.

• 2:29:05Speaker 02

  Zach.

• 2:29:06Speaker 03

  Here we go, counterclockwise.

• 2:29:07Speaker 00

  That's right.

• 2:29:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, I believe so. Uh, with the, the second pick, I'm gonna take the, uh, skull emoji.

• 2:29:13Speaker 00

  Ah, great pick.

• 2:29:15Speaker 03

  Dead.

• 2:29:15Speaker 00

  Got to.

• 2:29:16Speaker 03

  I'm dead.

• 2:29:16Speaker 00

  That's a good one.

• 2:29:17Speaker 03

  Killed.

• 2:29:18Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:29:19Speaker 03

  People always send that. People die a lot online. It's concerning. Like any, any moderately funny joke, oh, I'm dead.

• 2:29:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's kinda like when guys used to text LOL, even though you know they weren't la- yeah.

• 2:29:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:29:30Speaker 00

  Now, are you guys judging these, uh, are, are you guys, well, are you picking just texting emojis or is it also social media?

• 2:29:37Speaker 03

  It could be social media too.

• 2:29:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:29:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:29:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, cuz like, obviously there's some things that you use for social, social media that you wouldn't use for texting. Hank, you have two picks.

• 2:29:51Speaker 02

  I'm gonna go, uh, with the crying laughing emoji.

• 2:29:56Speaker 00

  Okay, just the old classic.

• 2:29:58Speaker 02

  Classic.

• 2:29:58Speaker 00

  Not like drowning and laughing.

• 2:30:00Speaker 02

  No, no, that's a crying crying.

• 2:30:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:30:03Speaker 02

  Crying laughing.

• 2:30:04Speaker 00

  You, that's crying, C-R-I-N-E.

• 2:30:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:30:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:30:09Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:30:11Speaker 00

  Yours doing crying.

• 2:30:12Speaker 02

  And then, I don't know if I played defense here.

• 2:30:16Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:30:16Speaker 03

  Can you play, okay.

• 2:30:20Speaker 03

  I'm, I just really wanna know what's going on.

• 2:30:22Speaker 00

  I know, I know exactly what pick he's thinking about right now when he says that.

• 2:30:25Speaker 02

  There's two.

• 2:30:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, there are.

• 2:30:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:30:27Speaker 02

  Uh,

• 2:30:28Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:30:29Speaker 02

  I'll take, I'll take the peach emoji.

• 2:30:30Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:30:30Speaker 03

  Okay, alright, good pick.

• 2:30:31Speaker 00

  That's the less horny of them.

• 2:30:33Speaker 03

  Yep, good pick.

• 2:30:36Speaker 03

  I had that one.

• 2:30:37Speaker 00

  Zach, good picks Hank.

• 2:30:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was great picks Hank. I'm gonna take the upside down smiley face emoji.

• 2:30:44Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. What?

• 2:30:47Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:30:48Speaker 03

  Walk me through that one.

• 2:30:50Speaker 02

  When do you use that?

• 2:30:51Speaker 04

  Super versatile, I think. I think there's guys out there that use it.

• 2:30:54Speaker 02

  For, and

• 2:30:54Speaker 00

  You clearly use it, so tell us you, how you, you use it.

• 2:30:59Speaker 04

  Just in conversation, just like put it in there.

• 2:31:01Speaker 00

  What, in what conversation? Like, give us a

• 2:31:03Speaker 04

  Uh, I don't know, like

• 2:31:04Speaker 02

  Is that like you, you get left on red and like?

• 2:31:06Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no. But, uh, usually like a, uh, like something mis- like if you're typing something out that's misfortunate.

• 2:31:12Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. Zach, is it like, um, like, oh man, I'm, I slept in, sorry, I'm coming as fast as I can, upside down face?

• 2:31:22Speaker 04

  I would never use an emoji in that search, that text thread.

• 2:31:24Speaker 00

  Would it be like, hey guys?

• 2:31:26Speaker 04

  Yes, but no.

• 2:31:27Speaker 00

  I'll catch up at hole, hole eleven, had two hot dogs, hamburger and jalapeno poppers, got diarrhea.

• 2:31:34Speaker 04

  Maybe we put that on there, yeah.

• 2:31:36Speaker 00

  Okay, alright, alright.

• 2:31:37Speaker 03

  Wait a second, the lady only gave me two transfusions. I gotta go back for the other one.

• 2:31:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay.

• 2:31:42Speaker 04

  Another great example of why you use it.

• 2:31:44Speaker 00

  Can you send it to the PMT chat? I don't even know which one it is.

• 2:31:47Speaker 04

  I can text it.

• 2:31:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, text it, so I can see it. Alright, PFT, you have two picks.

• 2:31:52Speaker 03

  Okay, I'm gonna go with a fire emoji.

• 2:31:57Speaker 02

  Good pick.

• 2:31:58Speaker 03

  Fire emoji could, could mean anything, could be like, that's an awesome song that you put out.

• 2:32:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:32:03Speaker 03

  Could be like, I really like that shirt that you're wearing.

• 2:32:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:32:06Speaker 03

  I really like those shorts that you're wearing.

• 2:32:09Speaker 00

  Like it?

• 2:32:09Speaker 03

  I really like that dress that you're wearing. Like, if you're a fan of clothing and style, I feel like you, I'm a real big fan of, uh, the, whatever lace thing that is that you're wearing. A lot, a lot of uses for the fire. Um, so we're gonna go fire emoji, and then we're gonna follow that up.

• 2:32:30Speaker 03

  I'm gonna go with the snowflake emoji.

• 2:32:32Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:32:33Speaker 03

  I like the snowflake emoji a lot. I think, I think that's a good one.

• 2:32:37Speaker 02

  That's one you use a lot? That's what you, that's what you said in your

• 2:32:40Speaker 03

  In Chicago, yeah. All the time, like the winter's here, you gotta be kidding me.

• 2:32:46Speaker 00

  It's cold.

• 2:32:47Speaker 02

  It is cold.

• 2:32:47Speaker 03

  A lot, yeah. Crazy.

• 2:32:51Speaker 03

  That's how this, I mean, night one, part of my take decides to do a show together.

• 2:32:56Speaker 00

  Snowflake.

• 2:32:57Speaker 03

  Snowflake emoji.

• 2:32:58Speaker 00

  I don't even know if they had emojis then.

• 2:32:59Speaker 03

  Yeah. We might've invented them.

• 2:33:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. Alright, Zach?

• 2:33:04Speaker 04

  I'm gonna take the purple demon emoji.

• 2:33:05Speaker 00

  Okay, you're on demon time.

• 2:33:07Speaker 03

  Purple demon's

• 2:33:08Speaker 00

  Now you're back. Upside, upside down smiley face was a, was a big mess.

• 2:33:13Speaker 04

  Someone say, some niche, some not.

• 2:33:15Speaker 02

  God, there's so many.

• 2:33:17Speaker 00

  Demon's really good. Yeah, there's so many. I, there's a lot.

• 2:33:20Speaker 02

  Fuck, I don't know where to go with this. I don't know where to go with this.

• 2:33:24Speaker 00

  Big heavy hitters.

• 2:33:25Speaker 02

  I know, I know, I know, I know.

• 2:33:30Speaker 00

  Like probably my most used emoji is on there. Still.

• 2:33:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:33:38Speaker 00

  It's not the

• 2:33:39Speaker 02

  So, right now I have crying laughing, I have the peach.

• 2:33:42Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:33:43Speaker 02

  I will go, I, I will go with the one that I use a lot. I'll stay true to myself as well. I'll go with the handshake emoji.

• 2:33:51Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:33:52Speaker 02

  That one, that one's just

• 2:33:54Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:33:54Speaker 02

  Easy, react to a message, handshake emoji, or like someone says, you know, instead of, you don't have to say like, thank you or whatever, like someone texts you something, you can just say, I'll go, I actually won't, I won't reveal the other one, but just handshake emoji, easy one.

• 2:34:07Speaker 03

  Really good.

• 2:34:07Speaker 02

  And then I have one more, huh?

• 2:34:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:34:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:34:10Speaker 02

  Damn, I don't

• 2:34:11Speaker 00

  That's how it works. There's four on Mount Rushmore Hank.

• 2:34:13Speaker 02

  Uh,

• 2:34:16Speaker 02

  fuck.

• 2:34:20Speaker 00

  This is really killing you, huh?

• 2:34:21Speaker 03

  You gotta do four.

• 2:34:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is hard.

• 2:34:24Speaker 03

  We got three.

• 2:34:26Speaker 02

  Poop emoji.

• 2:34:27Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:34:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, poop, it's a good one. It's Peter King's favorite one.

• 2:34:30Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:34:31Speaker 02

  This is tough, this is tough, this is tough.

• 2:34:33Speaker 03

  You and PK.

• 2:34:34Speaker 00

  You do send that, especially when it's like, where are you Hank?

• 2:34:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:34:38Speaker 00

  He'll send that.

• 2:34:40Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:34:41Speaker 04

  I'm gonna take the sideways crying laughing emoji.

• 2:34:44Speaker 03

  Okay, lot, lot of variations on that one.

• 2:34:47Speaker 00

  You just like

• 2:34:47Speaker 02

  That's, that's lame.

• 2:34:51Speaker 00

  Okay, PFT?

• 2:34:52Speaker 03

  What were you gonna say?

• 2:34:53Speaker 00

  No, I don't, I don't even know, these are, oh no, that's actually not bad. Okay, never mind, never mind. I, I, I take back my

• 2:35:00Speaker 03

  That's a good one.

• 2:35:00Speaker 00

  That's a good one. That is a good one. That means you're laughing more.

• 2:35:03Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:35:03Speaker 00

  That's, that's, that's Hank's, but

• 2:35:06Speaker 02

  Well, I could've done that with the skull, whatever.

• 2:35:09Speaker 00

  What?

• 2:35:10Speaker 02

  There's multiple skulls, there's multiple crying emojis, Zach. That's alright Zach, that's alright.

• 2:35:13Speaker 00

  Oh, you think he's, is this a lava lava lamp situation?

• 2:35:16Speaker 03

  Hank, Hank, is it a different emoji?

• 2:35:19Speaker 02

  It's, no, it's what I'm saying, like, I, I, I, I, whatever.

• 2:35:24Speaker 00

  Which skull did you pick?

• 2:35:25Speaker 04

  You can definitely pick the one with, with

• 2:35:27Speaker 02

  Oh, I can, I, I, I'm done.

• 2:35:28Speaker 00

  Which one did you pick, the skull?

• 2:35:29Speaker 04

  I just picked the right, I picked the one on the right side.

• 2:35:32Speaker 00

  Wait, wait, you picked the one, the, the actual skull?

• 2:35:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:35:36Speaker 00

  That was wrong.

• 2:35:38Speaker 04

  I didn't, I didn't know there was a variation here.

• 2:35:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, you gotta go with the crossbones, right? Or I didn't know there was a different, I didn't know, we were out on variations. I thought we all knew there was, my bad.

• 2:35:46Speaker 02

  No, I know there's variations, I'm just saying, it's lame.

• 2:35:48Speaker 00

  I think

• 2:35:48Speaker 02

  But it's, it's, it's, it's, it's

• 2:35:50Speaker 00

  It's a unique emoji.

• 2:35:51Speaker 02

  You did not break the rules.

• 2:35:52Speaker 00

  I

• 2:35:52Speaker 02

  I just think

• 2:35:53Speaker 00

  I'll say this, in Zach's defense, those are two different reactions.

• 2:36:00Speaker 00

  If someone sends the, the straight up one, that's funny. If someone sends the sideways one, that's fucking like, so funny.

• 2:36:08Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:36:09Speaker 00

  That is a difference. Do you not agree?

• 2:36:12Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:36:12Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:36:15Speaker 00

  Do you guys agree in the booth?

• 2:36:18Speaker 04

  There's different use cases for him, for sure.

• 2:36:21Speaker 02

  No, there's not.

• 2:36:22Speaker 00

  PFT, if your last one, I still There's a couple.

• 2:36:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's, I mean, there's a lot out there. I'm kinda regretting going snowflake, um, cuz it's just, it's such a strong board right now. Uh, okay, last one, great value, I think, in the fourth round, thumbs up.

• 2:36:39Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:36:40Speaker 03

  Thumbs up emoji.

• 2:36:41Speaker 00

  Getting thumbs up.

• 2:36:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:36:42Speaker 00

  It triggers me when I get thumbs up.

• 2:36:44Speaker 03

  Thumbs up emoji. I, see, the thing is, when I send a thumbs up emoji, I actually mean, like, thumbs up, I mean, yeah.

• 2:36:51Speaker 00

  I can't believe, uh,

• 2:36:53Speaker 02

  I wish I took one hundred.

• 2:36:54Speaker 00

  The one

• 2:36:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, hundred.

• 2:36:55Speaker 00

  The one that I use all the time that didn't get picked is the One that When someone says something

• 2:37:01Speaker 03

  The yikes?

• 2:37:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, the the yikes, the yikes face.

• 2:37:05Speaker 03

  What's the yikes face? Oh, yeah, that one. Yeah. Well, so there's one that I thought about.

• 2:37:09Speaker 02

  Use that a lot.

• 2:37:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I, because you say a lot of yikes. It's true.

• 2:37:14Speaker 03

  There's, there's one that I thought about using it. I don't think it's top four for me right now, but it's a strong.

• 2:37:19Speaker 02

  Also an eight ball emoji, PFC, you could have just taken that.

• 2:37:21Speaker 03

  I mean.

• 2:37:22Speaker 00

  Whoa, whoa, whoa, he's talking about snow, dude.

• 2:37:24Speaker 02

  I'm talking about pool. You like to play pool.

• 2:37:26Speaker 03

  Chicago, talking about being here in Chicago, the winter time. Uh, there is a strong like up and coming emoji.

• 2:37:31Speaker 02

  No one took the.

• 2:37:31Speaker 03

  That I think should be here maybe next year, if you ask me, it, the melting face emoji.

• 2:37:37Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:37:37Speaker 03

  I like the melty face emoji.

• 2:37:39Speaker 00

  I like the hands up.

• 2:37:40Speaker 02

  Yep. I like that one too. I like the girl. I do the girl though.

• 2:37:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, the hands up.

• 2:37:44Speaker 02

  Or, or the, or the like, if someone gives you a compliment and you do the like, half hand up.

• 2:37:49Speaker 00

  Uh, just the simple green check mark. I use that.

• 2:37:52Speaker 02

  I had that.

• 2:37:53Speaker 00

  When you hit bets and stuff.

• 2:37:55Speaker 02

  The puke emoji, green face puke.

• 2:37:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:37:57Speaker 00

  I, I use, this is just for, I think most men probably use it, uh, when talking to the significant other, but the, the hard eyes.

• 2:38:06Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:38:07Speaker 00

  Hard eyes, definitely. You get, you get points for that. That's a good play, the hard eyes.

• 2:38:12Speaker 02

  The red siren.

• 2:38:13Speaker 03

  Red siren is good, the alarm. Yeah.

• 2:38:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, red siren is, is really good.

• 2:38:17Speaker 02

  The, the water drops.

• 2:38:19Speaker 00

  What about the Italian hands?

• 2:38:20Speaker 03

  Why'd you use the water drops?

• 2:38:21Speaker 00

  Italian hands.

• 2:38:22Speaker 02

  The water drops, the grapefruit.

• 2:38:24Speaker 03

  Do you have leaks in your apartment?

• 2:38:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, probably because you're sweating.

• 2:38:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:38:28Speaker 00

  The badger.

• 2:38:29Speaker 02

  Never use that one. Uh, the golf emojis, there's a couple.

• 2:38:34Speaker 00

  Oh, you use golf emojis?

• 2:38:35Speaker 02

  Uh, the American flag, if I was gonna pander.

• 2:38:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. Why the buddy pregnant?

• 2:38:39Speaker 02

  Yep. Is that even an emoji?

• 2:38:41Speaker 03

  I just saw it. Yeah, it's in there still.

• 2:38:43Speaker 00

  The, this one, I wouldn't put on my Mount Rushmore, but it actually might be on the Mount Flushmore. Uh, the face talking. You know, when, when someone tries to make a point online.

• 2:38:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:38:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:38:58Speaker 00

  That's Mount Flushmore.

• 2:38:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, like speak on it.

• 2:38:59Speaker 00

  It's so fucking annoying. Yeah, Ocho would probably use that.

• 2:39:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:39:04Speaker 00

  Um, what else?

• 2:39:06Speaker 02

  Uh, monkey covering his eyes.

• 2:39:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, monkey, that's a good one. The, uh, the prayers up one, like the hands together in prayer.

• 2:39:13Speaker 00

  Oh, the girl one I use Hank is the, the hands on the face, the, uh, that one's good. The, that, that one, that one is, uh.

• 2:39:21Speaker 03

  What about the tree?

• 2:39:23Speaker 00

  Don't really use the tree.

• 2:39:25Speaker 03

  Hank, do you use the tree?

• 2:39:26Speaker 02

  Nope. I use the, the surfing, the waves, wavy.

• 2:39:30Speaker 03

  Oh, you guys ever get into the popcorn one? No.

• 2:39:34Speaker 00

  Popcorn's pretty fun. No one used eggplant, huh?

• 2:39:37Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:39:38Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:39:39Speaker 00

  I guess it wouldn't be a guy thing.

• 2:39:40Speaker 02

  The puzzle piece.

• 2:39:42Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:39:43Speaker 00

  Puzzle piece.

• 2:39:44Speaker 03

  It's a strong one.

• 2:39:44Speaker 00

  The football emoji.

• 2:39:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, I should, there was, yeah.

• 2:39:48Speaker 03

  No, but I don't do football emojis. I, I do pictures of footballs.

• 2:39:52Speaker 00

  No, but I'm saying like in text, I'll use a football emoji.

• 2:39:55Speaker 03

  I just send a picture of a football.

• 2:39:57Speaker 00

  The, the weightlifting one, when I'm in the gym, all those times.

• 2:40:01Speaker 03

  For sure.

• 2:40:02Speaker 00

  It's like, hey, sorry, can't respond, but I can respond with this emoji of me in the gym.

• 2:40:06Speaker 03

  Um, the stacks of money and the bank emoji when I'm, when I'm very wealthy.

• 2:40:12Speaker 00

  The girl that lives in New York in LA and has a plane in between.

• 2:40:15Speaker 03

  Yeah. Oh, the plane emoji is a good one. Yeah.

• 2:40:17Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 2:40:18Speaker 02

  I always like to send, I always like to send the on top soon, but that's like three emojis.

• 2:40:24Speaker 03

  On top soon. Booked and busy.

• 2:40:26Speaker 00

  Oh, wow. Nice, Hank. On top soon. I like that.

• 2:40:30Speaker 03

  Uh, I was just, I was thinking about booked and busy the other day.

• 2:40:34Speaker 02

  Probably because you saw someone say that.

• 2:40:37Speaker 03

  No, definitely not.

• 2:40:38Speaker 02

  Definitely.

• 2:40:39Speaker 03

  Definitely not.

• 2:40:40Speaker 02

  I'll, I'll fucking, look it up on Instagram right now. I'm sure there's a million times.

• 2:40:44Speaker 03

  Oh, the pin. Yeah, good call, Zach.

• 2:40:46Speaker 00

  Oh, that looked like a lollipop to me. I'm fat.

• 2:40:49Speaker 03

  Oh, is it a lollipop?

• 2:40:50Speaker 00

  I don't know. Uh, I like thumbs down more than thumbs up. I, cause that, that hurts when you give someone a thumbs down. You're just like, boom, thumbs down in the, in the chat.

• 2:41:02Speaker 02

  Uh.

• 2:41:03Speaker 00

  I said, I said Italian hands.

• 2:41:04Speaker 03

  Italian hands.

• 2:41:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. Shane, Shane went like this.

• 2:41:06Speaker 02

  Did you, do you know what, uh, the, uh, Joe Burrow's girlfriend's, uh.

• 2:41:11Speaker 03

  Uh, no.

• 2:41:12Speaker 02

  Book is called?

• 2:41:12Speaker 03

  I don't.

• 2:41:13Speaker 00

  Pardon my book?

• 2:41:14Speaker 02

  Books and busy.

• 2:41:16Speaker 00

  No way.

• 2:41:17Speaker 03

  When did it come out?

• 2:41:20Speaker 00

  Oh, the middle finger. That's a good call, Mims. You gotta have that. There's the salute.

• 2:41:26Speaker 02

  The salute, yeah. That was, that was the one. So usually that's usually like, instead of like responding with words, I will just do handshake, salute handshake. Like if, to, to confirm something, like we're on the same page or like, I appreciate you saying something like, just handshake, salute handshake.

• 2:41:42Speaker 03

  Uh, memes had a good one. Uh, the cat that is doing the, the hands on the cheek, oh my God face. That's a good one.

• 2:41:50Speaker 00

  Good Mount Rushmore, boys. I don't even know which way this is gonna go. I feel like you guys all had three solid picks.

• 2:41:55Speaker 02

  I think the graphic, yeah.

• 2:41:56Speaker 03

  The hundred, the hundred might have been a miss, but I, I feel like hundred hasn't, it, it's been falling off recently.

• 2:42:02Speaker 02

  Uh, yeah, that's where it's like, I, I use that a lot.

• 2:42:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:42:07Speaker 02

  But it might not be the most popular.

• 2:42:10Speaker 00

  All right, good show. We're gonna be at camp. Get ready for camp. Um. Oh, by the way, I'm, I'm, I'm back on burgers. I had 12 last week.

• 2:42:19Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 2:42:20Speaker 03

  You're right.

• 2:42:20Speaker 00

  What's that?

• 2:42:21Speaker 03

  It's a lot.

• 2:42:22Speaker 00

  What's that? What's that, Hank?

• 2:42:24Speaker 02

  That's so many burgers.

• 2:42:26Speaker 00

  23 away.

• 2:42:27Speaker 03

  What'd you have on the off day?

• 2:42:29Speaker 00

  Uh, salad, actually.

• 2:42:31Speaker 03

  Good move.

• 2:42:31Speaker 00

  My body was like craving something other than meat. I needed, I ate a peach even.

• 2:42:37Speaker 03

  Would you count a cheeseburger salad?

• 2:42:39Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:42:39Speaker 03

  No?

• 2:42:40Speaker 00

  Fair. Absolutely not.

• 2:42:41Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:42:41Speaker 00

  Gotta put up another 12s. I gotta go two, I gotta go three weeks in a row, 12.

• 2:42:46Speaker 03

  That's crazy.

• 2:42:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, two weeks?

• 2:42:48Speaker 00

  Two weeks left, 23.

• 2:42:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's tough. It's tough, man.

• 2:42:52Speaker 00

  Tough, man. I had, I had four on Thursday, I wanna say. That was, that was a lot. That was, Friday was the salad.

• 2:43:01Speaker 03

  Hank, are you just looking up booked and busy?

• 2:43:03Speaker 02

  Mm hmm, and there's.

• 2:43:05Speaker 05

  It's everywhere, everywhere you look.

• 2:43:07Speaker 03

  It's taking over.

• 2:43:08Speaker 05

  All right, numbers.

• 2:43:10Speaker 03

  Five. Uh, no, can't do that. 27.

• 2:43:13Speaker 00

  Three.

• 2:43:14Speaker 02

  Seven. Five. Oh, someone took it.

• 2:43:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, that five.

• 2:43:17Speaker 00

  Can't do it.

• 2:43:17Speaker 02

  Uh, 55.

• 2:43:18Speaker 03

  63. 29.

• 2:43:22Speaker 05

  69.

• 2:43:23Speaker 02

  69 for Cole.

• 2:43:27Speaker 02

  Here we go, five.

• 2:43:28Speaker 00

  Let's guess what Max would have picked.

• 2:43:30Speaker 02

  22. It's gonna be 22.

• 2:43:34Speaker 00

  Oh, that was so stupid memes.

• 2:43:36Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't even know what it said.

• 2:43:39Speaker 03

  That counts, by the way.

• 2:43:40Speaker 00

  For Max?

• 2:43:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:43:55Speaker 03

  It's a long one. What do we got?

• 2:43:58Speaker 00

  87.

• 2:43:59Speaker 02

  87.

• 2:44:00Speaker 03

  Anyone?

• 2:44:32Speaker 00

  13.

• 2:44:35Speaker 00

  13.

• 2:44:35Speaker 03

  No one?

• 2:44:38Speaker 03

  All right. Happy birthday to Jared Vogel and Arian Foster. My good friend, Arian. Yeah, it's Arian's birthday.

• 2:44:47Speaker 02

  What about the first guy?

• 2:44:48Speaker 03

  Uh, forget about him. Arian, it's his birthday. I, I actually have a birthday present for Arian that I'd like to say. You guys tell me what you think. Um, the meanest thing that somebody did to Arian is if you look, literally look up in the dictionary on Wikipedia, the word fumble.

• 2:45:07Speaker 03

  The picture for fumble on Wikipedia is a picture of Arian Foster, which is a pretty mean thing. Yeah, I, I only think he fumbled like a few times, handful of times in the NFL. Kinda messed up that he is actually literally the encyclopedia definition. Um, maybe just, is somebody change it to like, if you look up atheist, that would be Arian Foster. That would be nicer. But also maybe change the fumble for one day. You can change it back later. Happy birthday to Arian and Jared Vogel. Uh, happy birthday to Henry Lockwood.

• 2:45:40Speaker 05

  There's another one?

• 2:45:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, the 55th mayor of Charleston.

• 2:45:43Speaker 00

  Oh, nice.

• 2:45:43Speaker 03

  Henry Lockwood.

• 2:45:44Speaker 02

  Fuck, yeah.

• 2:45:45Speaker 03

  Uh, happy birthday to Vince McMahon, Cal Ripken Jr., Dave Chappelle, Reggie Miller. And, uh, then on Tuesday, happy birthday to Blake Lively. And Rachel Ray.

• 2:46:01Speaker 03

  And Billy Ray Cyrus, great, great dad. What's that memes?

• 2:46:04Speaker 02

  Said, what a combo.

• 2:46:05Speaker 03

  Yeah. Love you guys.

• 2:46:08Speaker 03

  Oh, also Jeremy Lin. Happy birthday.

• 2:46:11Speaker 02

  That's my fucking guy.

• 2:46:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, that one was for you memes.

• 2:46:13Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 2:46:13Speaker 03

  Love you. And Kobe. Happy birthday, honey. It's pretty good.