Oregon HC Dan Lanning, Nebraska HC Matt Rhule, Tarik Skubal is a Dodger, Mt Rushmore of Worst Places Your Wife/Girlfriend Takes You

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  All right, back to part of my take.

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  Okay, let's go.

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  Welcome to part of my tape presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, August 3rd and Tarik Schubel is a Los Angeles Dodger in Major League Baseball. Get ready to learn. Lockout, baby.

• 3:17Speaker 00

  Did the Dodgers ruin sports?

• 3:20Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 3:20Speaker 00

  The Dodgers ruined baseball. Everyone's upset with the Dodgers. Granted, any other team could have put together an offer.

• 3:26Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 3:26Speaker 00

  To trade for Schubel.

• 3:28Speaker 02

  Correct. It's not a free agent signing. It's a trade.

• 3:30Speaker 00

  It's a trade. So any other team could have done it. Any other team could have afforded to pay Schubel if they want to, even if they want to take on his entire salary this season. That was something that I think, I believe just about every team in baseball.

• 3:42Speaker 02

  Well, yes and no.

• 3:43Speaker 00

  Should be equipped to do. Uh, now that's in theory.

• 3:46Speaker 02

  Yes and no. Yeah.

• 3:47Speaker 00

  Now, in practice, um, the team that would be most likely to actually trade for him would be a team that felt like they had an inside track on negotiating an extension with him.

• 3:56Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 3:57Speaker 00

  At the end of the season, uh, if we do have another season of baseball, this might be the last year of baseball of all time. So yes, the Dodgers did have a leg up. They do have a lot of deferred money that they can offer in the future.

• 4:11Speaker 02

  One billion dollars.

• 4:12Speaker 00

  They do have a sweetheart TV deal, which I've tried to understand.

• 4:16Speaker 02

  Can't do it.

• 4:16Speaker 00

  So many times, can't figure it out.

• 4:18Speaker 02

  Can't do it.

• 4:19Speaker 00

  It's just easier for me to say that they're cheating.

• 4:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's all right. So I, I, I, we've made this point before. We've talked about this ad nauseam. I do think that it's, yes, the initial reaction is fuck the Dodgers. I, I thought that right away on Saturday night. Max, actually, I like, you know, it's, it's bad when Max side texted me. We were just both lamenting. The Cubs have since made a move in Kevin Gossman. So that, that I'm excited about that, but the Dodgers are able to operate from a position of strength that no other team really can right now. And that's because they have not only the money, but they have prospects and they're okay with getting rid of the prospects

• 5:04Speaker 02

  because they don't need to rely on the prospects for their future success, like a Brewers or a Rays or a small market team that basically like the Brewers have a ton of really good prospects. They could have made a better offer to the Tigers to get Tarik Skubal. But the Brewers, in order to be successful going forward, have to have cost controlled prospects, get good and become Major League Baseball players and have those guys be really good on a cheaper deal so that they can continue to win and be a competitive team. So it's like the Dodgers, they can trade their prospects. And if the, if whatever doesn't work out, guess what? They can just go get a free agent, whereas other teams can't do

• 5:45Speaker 02

  that. They can, they, they have a room for error that other teams don't have. I still maintain, and you see, you see it kind of shifting a little bit. The Dodgers doing this, and if the Dodgers do win another World Series, a third in a row, which that's not guaranteed, by the way, like I, I, I know that everyone's like, oh, there's just no reason to play the rest.

• 6:05Speaker 00

  They almost lost last year.

• 6:06Speaker 02

  Crazy things happened. They went to game seven last year. They needed like an insane. They got swept this weekend. Yeah. So who they play?

• 6:13Speaker 00

  Red Sox.

• 6:13Speaker 02

  Okay, there you go. It's.

• 6:14Speaker 00

  This game's not over though. Just, just heads up, top of the eighth.

• 6:17Speaker 02

  No, but shit, crazy shit happens. Like especially like the, the, um, everyone, everyone tweeting out and, and posting the Dodgers, uh, rotation. Guess what? In a five game series, like that's when you could get them because you can't start, you know, like I, I think Tarik Scoobal and Yamamoto are very scary when you could hypothetically see both those guys a total of four times, maybe five times, depending on like short rest. That's when it gets fucking crazy. But in a five game series, shortened series, you steal one of them, you never know what happens, but.

• 6:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. Ohtani hasn't really pitched since when? Since like?

• 6:53Speaker 02

  No, yeah, it's.

• 6:54Speaker 00

  July? I don't think.

• 6:55Speaker 02

  Well, I think that's part of the reason why they went out and got so aggressive is because they don't think Ohtani's gonna play.

• 6:58Speaker 00

  But if you look at their lineup though, is what I'm saying. Like, yes, they've got two studs, right? And then they've got some other guys that you could look at and be like, these guys could be absolute studs.

• 7:06Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, they have Cy Youngs everywhere. They got Cy Youngs coming out of their ass.

• 7:09Speaker 00

  Could be a, a crazy lineup to face, but nothing's guaranteed, even if it's a seven game series. Like it, the thing is, it was, it was so close last year. We were so close to having the Blue Jays beat them. It does feel like we can try to fight it as much as we want. And the Dodgers somehow, some way are just going to figure out a way to outspend everybody. And this was just, I, I know they wanted Scoobal and I know they want to extend Scoobal, but also this is them saying like, yeah, we, we know that the Brewers were trying to get them. This is as much about keeping him away from the Brewers as it is getting him to Los Angeles.

• 7:45Speaker 02

  The, so, so back to what I was saying about, uh, the Dodgers and, and everyone getting upset. I kind of made this point last week when I was like, you know what? Let Scoobal go to the Dodgers. So everyone's just good. Like it's just gonna ruin baseball and, and we'll go to a lockout. You do kind of see that the court of public opinion is starting, is shifting towards actually maybe backing the owners saying, we need a salary cap, which is a rare thing for, I feel like, you know, in this day and age, people are savvy enough to be like, no, fuck these billionaires. They, they make money every single year and then they cry poor and it's bullshit. But you're getting to a point where the competitive advantage is so severe in baseball.

• 8:26Speaker 02

  And I still maintain the biggest problem is the, the, a lot of these owners just don't spend money. It's not as much the Dodgers, it's the, the Pirates and the, and the Royals and some of these small market teams that just won't put out a competitive team. But either way, I think that a lockout is going to happen. I think actually the court of public opinion is like, yeah, we do need a salary cap now, which makes me think maybe this is, I don't know if you've seen Frank the Tank, and I think KFC have been on this, that this is just all collusion and the owners are just letting the Dodgers get these guys because everyone is going to get to the new CBA and be like, how can we not have a lockout? The Dodgers are going to win it every single year under the, under the current circumstances.

• 9:07Speaker 00

  And there were two times that they went to discovery back in the MLBPA filed a lawsuit to get access to some of the documents, some of the communications from the owners to try to prove collusion. It happened in 1980s. It happened, I believe in 2008. I think it's probably going to happen again with this because it does feel like this is pushing, like the narrative is swinging now in favor of the owners.

• 9:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:27Speaker 00

  They want, they want a salary cap and the salary cap is probably going to happen. But actually, well, the, the owners are saying, here's, here's the real like crossroads rat. The, the owners are saying, we need a salary cap, 100% non-negotiable. Players are saying.

• 9:41Speaker 02

  Non-negotiable.

• 9:42Speaker 00

  No salary cap, that's non-negotiable. So you can see that there's a, we're going to have to agree to disagree a little bit on that one. Now the, the, the salary floor is what the owners are putting out there.

• 9:53Speaker 02

  That's where you got to negotiate.

• 9:54Speaker 00

  That's where the negotiate happens. We'll see just how high that floor could be.

• 9:58Speaker 02

  That's where the Pirates and the, and the owners that are not serious owners. Uh, that's where they fuck everyone.

• 10:05Speaker 00

  But I think if you're the, if you're the MLBPA and where they're coming from is. They have the understanding that that baseball right now has had the best union of I guess you could say the NBA has had a pretty good players union as well. But they've been pushing back against the idea of a salary cap for forever. They will have to live going forward 20, 30 years from now. If they are the one, if they're the union that finally agrees to give the owners a salary cap, they will have to live going forward, knowing that they're the ones that did that, that every future player has a salary cap because of this negotiation. And I don't think that's what the union heads want to be known for as their legacy. So that's

• 10:48Speaker 00

  going to be a tricky thing to negotiate. Now, the floor, we'll see how high the floor offer is going to be because that's going to have everything to do with whether or not they they can find some common ground. But it does feel like there's just, there's no way. The only way I could see it happening to get the cap is if the union convinced the owners, you need to open up the books, have them audited, give us the real numbers of how much you're making, how much your expenses are, show me where the money is, and then, and only then, can we have a real conversation about maybe having a salary cap.

• 11:26Speaker 02

  Either way, right now, it kind of sucks. I mean, Max, you were, like I said, we were texting on this night, it sucks. I mean, I'm happy the Cubs are actually doing something. The Phillies have not done anything as far as I know.

• 11:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, not yet. Well, the the one random guy on Twitter said that Mike Trout is is done deal to the Phillies.

• 11:43Speaker 02

  Oh, okay. Nice. Congratulations on that.

• 11:45Speaker 03

  Yep, that guy.

• 11:46Speaker 02

  Rain chasing Mike Trout?

• 11:47Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 11:49Speaker 02

  So, but it sucks. It sucks. If you're an NL team, it sucks. I don't know how you beat the Dodgers in the seven game series.

• 11:56Speaker 03

  I don't, it doesn't make any sense. They're.

• 11:59Speaker 00

  You know what doesn't make sense? It doesn't make sense why this trade happened on Saturday. That's what doesn't make sense to me. If we're doing the, if we're doing the.

• 12:08Speaker 03

  This is a good point.

• 12:10Speaker 00

  If we're doing Brian Windhorst. When's the trade deadline?

• 12:13Speaker 02

  It's tomorrow.

• 12:14Speaker 00

  It's Monday.

• 12:16Speaker 02

  It does make a little sense.

• 12:18Speaker 00

  Why that offer would have been there on Monday?

• 12:20Speaker 02

  No, I know, but the Tigers are most likely gonna also trade Casey Mize. And you had to do Tarik Skubal before you do Casey Mize. So that was probably the thought process of Scott Harris and the Tigers organizations. Like, let's get this one out of the way then, because they're gonna, they're basically reloading everything. They're, they're, they went for it a couple of years ago and last year. And it's like, they've been teetering on that line of, are we gonna make a run? Are we not? They played well for a little bit, but I think that's the reasoning is that they had to get down. They had to do Tarik Skubal so then they could then go down the road of, hey, now we're gonna get rid of Casey Mize as well. Who should, who also will get a good price.

• 12:56Speaker 00

  But I feel like if you're, if you're shopping your ace, you can wait a little bit longer and get other off, competing offers. Like, as the weekend goes on and as Monday goes on, I don't think you're gonna get any worse offers.

• 13:09Speaker 02

  But you see what I'm saying? They had to, they, they're gonna trade another, they're gonna trade their other great pitcher.

• 13:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:14Speaker 02

  So they, I think they had to do this so that, because otherwise it's like you're talking, you don't know what your, your future is gonna look like. Until you get rid of Tarik Skubal, see what you have.

• 13:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:24Speaker 02

  Then you get, then, all right, we got these prospects. Now we're gonna figure out what we're gonna do with Casey Mize. That's, that's, that's the reasoning as far as I see it.

• 13:32Speaker 00

  I think you could probably walk and chew gum at the same time and.

• 13:35Speaker 02

  I mean, we're not that far away from the trade deadline. It was 36 hours before the trade deadline.

• 13:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I mean, the, the offers are only gonna get better.

• 13:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know. I, I don't know how many teams were actually gonna be offering, because again, you're, you're, it's a, it's a two month rental for Tarik Skubal. And the Dodgers are the only team, they're, they're the most likely team to sign Tarik Skubal to his future deal. So it's like, how many, the Brewers, again, like the Brewers could have offered more, but the Brewers have to say, are we gonna offer guys that could be cost controlled for the next six years for two months of Tarik Skubal? They're not gonna. So that's probably why it was probably a limited amount of teams that were, were in on Tarik Skubal. As far as I can tell. It sucks.

• 14:19Speaker 00

  Maybe the Dodgers just know that we're not gonna ever have baseball again, so they might as well give them the whole farm system.

• 14:24Speaker 02

  It sucks. It sucks.

• 14:26Speaker 03

  It's obviously good for, it's obviously good for the Tigers owner. Like, I, I, I know that, that it is little conspiracy theory, blah, blah, blah, blah, but they're all in this together because the bigger picture right now is what is going to happen next.

• 14:40Speaker 02

  I agree. I agree.

• 14:41Speaker 03

  So I, I, I refuse to believe that that didn't have something to do with it.

• 14:45Speaker 02

  No, I said it last week when I was like, if Tarik Skubal goes to the Dodgers, you'll see the, the flooding of people say like, hey, this is fucking bullshit and it's all broken. And yeah, it does see, I mean, we all know it's broken. We're about to have a lock. We're about to have no baseball. We gotta get it.

• 15:02Speaker 03

  It just sucks. I mean, you can't compete with this, with this rotation.

• 15:05Speaker 02

  Although it is injured. Like Blake Snell's been injured, Glasnow's been injured.

• 15:10Speaker 03

  They're gonna, they're gonna be back.

• 15:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, they'll probably have, that's the thing is they, the Dodgers are so good. They have Cy Young, they have Cy Young pitchers that are gonna most likely be like the eighth inning guy in, in, in the World Series.

• 15:22Speaker 00

  Their six highest paid pitchers would be the 18th highest payroll.

• 15:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:27Speaker 00

  That's fucking crazy.

• 15:28Speaker 02

  They have 1.1 million deferred. It's their, their, their rotation. You don't need that many pitchers. That's the craziest part. Everyone's throwing out, did you see Max? Everyone's throwing out their, their, like the Dodgers.

• 15:40Speaker 03

  Their second, their second rotation.

• 15:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, but they're saying like these, their, their, their five starters and they just didn't put in Robleski, who's like one of their best pitchers.

• 15:50Speaker 03

  I was seeing stuff that they have their top five starters and then they have another five starters that would still be one of the better rotations in baseball.

• 15:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

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  It's so fucked.

• 16:01Speaker 02

  It's fucked.

• 16:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, their top five would be, according to this graphic, Skubal, Otani, Glasnow, Snell, Yamamoto.

• 16:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. And Glasnow and Snell have, I mean, Snell, I think is about to come back and Glasnow is gonna come back in like a month.

• 16:13Speaker 03

  And Otani's probably gonna.

• 16:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, he'll pitch in the playoffs. He's not gonna, hopefully doesn't pitch in, in the regular season.

• 16:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:20Speaker 02

  PCA.

• 16:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, PCA. Yeah. See, look at this. They just have another rotation.

• 16:27Speaker 02

  I am excited that the Cubs got.

• 16:28Speaker 03

  They're all just like top 50 guy prospects that are.

• 16:31Speaker 02

  Look at there's Tarik Scoobal. He's, he's, he's just shaking everyone's hands. The Dodgers just do things better. I learned today, I was telling you guys before, I learned today that Dodgers have a plane just for the players where they all like, usually when a team leaves, they have to wait an extra hour, hour and a half to get all their gear on the plane. The, the game ends, if they have a, have a road trip, the game ends, the Dodgers players just get on the plane and they go. And then every, all the gear comes later and it saves them an hour and a half, which I know that's not a lot, but it's like you stack that over 162, they're just better.

• 17:08Speaker 00

  It's a good organization. I don't, I, I have to hate the Dodgers because that's what you do when a team becomes like the big, bad, evil empire like the Yankees did back around the turn of, of the century and like late 90s, early 2000s, when it seemed like they were just buying everybody.

• 17:21Speaker 02

  Isn't it so funny that like.

• 17:23Speaker 00

  Running baseball, you have to root against those guys.

• 17:24Speaker 02

  House Steinbrenner, like the Yankees owner, he, he can't even afford the Yankees. It's gotten so out of hand. Like he can't be, the Yankees can't be the Yankees. There are only two teams that can do this. It's the Mets and the Dodgers. And Matt, that wasn't a compliment memes because you guys, memes is so checked out. He thought the trade deadline was Tuesday.

• 17:42Speaker 00

  Oh no.

• 17:43Speaker 02

  He has, he is not even.

• 17:44Speaker 03

  Tuesday, Monday?

• 17:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:46Speaker 03

  The Knicks have ruined me.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  He, they really have. He said, he was like, oh, we got a trade deadline on Tuesday. It's like, what are you talking about, dude? It's like 12 hours to go.

• 17:56Speaker 02

  Whatever. The Dodgers ruined, no, no, the Dodgers ruined, ruined baseball. But again, I, I think that's okay because it, we need to, we need it to be fixed. We need it to be fixed.

• 18:06Speaker 00

  If you're the Tigers right now, are you, you're still maybe holding on to some hope that like maybe Scoobal's just, maybe it's just a rental and then he's gonna, he's gonna negotiate with Austin comeback. He's gonna test the market.

• 18:17Speaker 02

  0.0%.

• 18:20Speaker 02

  And, and the Dodgers, I mean, the Tigers, like, the only thing you could say the Tigers might have done incorrectly is, like, should they have traded Scoobal before the season in getting a little bit more? But you also have a team that was, you know, why, you know, won the center, or I don't think they won the central last year, because remember, the Guardians caught him, and then the Guardians lost, but like, they've been competitive and in the playoffs, so you can't just, like, pull the plug on that. I, yeah, it sucks. I feel bad for Tigers fans. Tarik Scoobal, that's a guy that should be a Tiger for life. Like, you should be rooting for him for life. He's an unbelievable pitcher. He's a hoss. He's a, he's a fucking killer. That's a guy that you should be able to, your team should be able to afford to keep him,

• 19:02Speaker 02

  and it should be like, that's a guy who's just a legend of your organization.

• 19:06Speaker 00

  And then Skeens is the other big name that's out there.

• 19:09Speaker 02

  And then someday, you know, the Savannah Bananas come to Detroit and Scoobal pitches.

• 19:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:14Speaker 02

  For the Bananas. Yeah, Skeens.

• 19:16Speaker 00

  Skeens is the other name that's out there. If he goes to the Dodgers, we should just, other teams should just be like, fuck you.

• 19:21Speaker 02

  I mean, Skeens hasn't been great. Skeens hasn't been Skeens this year. He's been not the same Skeens.

• 19:27Speaker 00

  His velocity is way down.

• 19:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:29Speaker 03

  I, he would just go to the Dodgers and then just be Skeens again.

• 19:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, he would.

• 19:33Speaker 00

  I think, I think he'll be fine. I did see the graph that showed, like, over the course of every, every start that he's had in his career, how many pitches that he's thrown, like, 98 plus, uh, which seems kind of like an arbitrary number to draw the line at, but it's, it has dipped down quite a bit.

• 19:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, he hasn't been good. He's, I mean, for Paul Skeens, he's, he's still a good pitcher overall, but he's not Paul Skeens. Um, all right, what else? Freddie Peralta got traded to the Rays. Rays are going all in.

• 20:01Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 20:02Speaker 02

  I liked, I mean, the MLB trade deadline, it's, it's fun. I mean, I'm happy that, like I said, the Cubs did something, they still got to do more. The Phillies got to do something. You got, I mean, I think the Yankees have to do something. Are the Red Sox going to do something?

• 20:15Speaker 04

  They should.

• 20:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. They did make a trade. Uh, oh, no, they made that trade last week. I think the White Sox, the White Sox, uh, made a trade on Saturday night, which is good. Like the White Sox are competitive. They're going for it.

• 20:27Speaker 00

  The Nats are now selling.

• 20:29Speaker 02

  Officially selling.

• 20:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, officially selling. We, we got swept by the Braves this weekend. Um, so we need pitchers. So we traded Luis Garcia, who's leading the NL and slugging, um, really good against right-handed pitchers. Doesn't really hit against lefties, uh, but traded him to the Yankees and the Yankees sent back like, basically they're like, hey, we're just going to give you every arm. Do you want arms? Okay, we've got young arms, some old arms. The hope is that one of those arms will turn into a, a rotation guy at some point.

• 20:57Speaker 02

  Someone's gonna get Mason Miller, maybe?

• 20:59Speaker 00

  Mason Miller would be awesome. Mason Miller is like.

• 21:01Speaker 02

  Padres are still in the, in the, I think they're in the playoffs right now. So I don't know, really understand that one, but.

• 21:08Speaker 00

  I feel like Mason Miller, we would, we should be talking about Mason Miller more.

• 21:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, he's incredible.

• 21:12Speaker 00

  In general for how good he is.

• 21:13Speaker 02

  He's absolutely insane. Did you see, uh, by the way, so, Tarik Skubal is gonna, I think his first, his first start is scheduled for Wrigley on Tuesday night. And then in a weird, this would be a fun quirk, only baseball, Kevin Gossman, his first start for the Cubs, could be Thursday against the Blue Jays, because we have one game makeup. Wouldn't that be funny?

• 21:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:40Speaker 02

  So he would, the one game makeup would be against his former team.

• 21:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, it'd be crazy.

• 21:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, wild.

• 21:45Speaker 04

  Are you gonna get your, your check in front of Skubal again?

• 21:48Speaker 02

  I don't think I, I, the Cubs couldn't turn around fast enough. I was gonna maybe get it on Monday. I was, I was, it would have been funny if it was just another replay of me getting a check and just Skubal was in a different jersey two weeks later. Maybe still, maybe they can do it on Tuesday. That'd be cool. I'd do that. I'd go. I'd get my check. I'd get my check on Tuesday. Um, all right, what, what else? Trade deadline. Max, you have any, any, uh, wishes?

• 22:14Speaker 03

  I don't even know. I mean, Trout would be awesome just because he's.

• 22:18Speaker 02

  He's an Eagles fan.

• 22:19Speaker 03

  He's an Eagle. He's basically on the Eagles.

• 22:21Speaker 00

  But again, I.

• 22:21Speaker 03

  You just have a guy on the Eagles on the Phillies.

• 22:23Speaker 00

  I don't, I don't think he wants to play for a team that's going to be in the playoffs.

• 22:27Speaker 03

  Yes, he does.

• 22:28Speaker 00

  No, I think he likes not playing in October so he can watch Eagles games.

• 22:31Speaker 03

  He might not like, yeah, that's.

• 22:34Speaker 00

  Like, that's what he does. Like, fact or fiction?

• 22:37Speaker 03

  Philly, he could just go to the games.

• 22:38Speaker 02

  I need that on a.

• 22:39Speaker 00

  Saying he might miss.

• 22:40Speaker 02

  I need that on a quote card, though, that Mike Trout would be awesome because we basically have an Eagles player on the Phillies.

• 22:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's true. But I, I am conflicted because if they go and, and are buyers, I'm going to get excited about it. But I don't know who we can add to compete with the Dodgers. Like, they were better, they were way better than us going into this weekend. They were way better than us going into this year and like, they're, they're, they just got the best pitcher in baseball.

• 23:10Speaker 02

  Anything can happen, though.

• 23:13Speaker 03

  But with a staff like that, it's so hard. It's so hard.

• 23:18Speaker 00

  I'm looking up who has the best average against Scoobal. Joshua Corota-Groward, the guy that got his, his nut blown up last week. He bats a thousand against him. You should trade for that guy. Cruck would love him. A guy like that.

• 23:32Speaker 03

  Cruck, yeah. Cruck's the best. I don't know. I, if, if they don't make any moves, it'll suck, but I'll be like, you know what, whatever, the Dodgers are going to win anyway. If they do make moves, I'll convince myself.

• 23:44Speaker 02

  I'm not ready to give, I'm not ready to give the title to the Dodgers. I'm not, I'm not. I think baseball's fluke. I mean, remember the Dodgers? When, remember the Dodgers would complain, like, before they started winning all these World Series, they would complain that the five game, while, like, DS was unfair because they, they just kept losing it. They lost it a couple of times and they had like over a hundred win seasons.

• 24:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:07Speaker 02

  Am I, I'm remembering that correctly. Remember they lost, who'd they lose? The Padres? They lost some series where it was like, oh, it's bullshit. They're so good and they, they lost.

• 24:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, the best team in baseball, but weird shit happens.

• 24:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. Look at, yeah, look it up. Come on, Max. They, so they won the last two World Series. Yeah. Yeah, they lost. They lost to the Diamondbacks in the DS two years, three years ago. And what happened to the Diamondbacks?

• 24:32Speaker 03

  Like, the roster is just so much better now.

• 24:34Speaker 00

  But we say, we say that a lot. This is a super team. I'll give you that. This is, this is maybe the most egregious Dodgers, Dodger team of all time. But weird things can happen, Max. You guys were so close. Remember that last year?

• 24:48Speaker 03

  Ohtani wasn't even on this team.

• 24:49Speaker 00

  Max, remember that Thursday night?

• 24:51Speaker 03

  Stop it.

• 24:51Speaker 00

  Eagles are playing against the Giants.

• 24:53Speaker 02

  What was that game four or game five? No.

• 24:56Speaker 03

  That was game four.

• 24:56Speaker 02

  Okay. So you weren't that close.

• 24:58Speaker 00

  Max is taking off his headphones.

• 24:59Speaker 03

  Well, he's, that was like the worst night of my life and PFT is just gonna talk about.

• 25:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:03Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, if that's the worst night of your life, you had a pretty good life.

• 25:05Speaker 02

  Damn good life, dude. Damn good life.

• 25:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, I've had a good life.

• 25:09Speaker 02

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  make a difference. All new Stella Blue Coffee can lattes now available at stellablucoffee.com or subscribe on Amazon for 10% off. All right, back to part of my take. So I'm looking at DraftKings right now. The Dodgers are plus 150 to win the World Series. That's insane.

• 26:08Speaker 02

  But hey, guess what? The, the, the Thunder were like plus 200 all year. What happened to them? Wemby got them. What happened to Wemby? I actually don't remember what happened to Wemby. So much shit has happened.

• 26:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:25Speaker 04

  World Cup.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. World Cup. Yeah. World Cup got Wemby. Yeah, France lost in the World Cup. That's fact.

• 26:30Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 26:31Speaker 02

  Okay, other, other stories, anything, anything we want to touch on? The Tony Romo is now not, no longer, as of right now, going to be calling games, at least for week one. J.J. Watt has taken his place. I feel like this might be it for Tony Romo with CBS.

• 26:48Speaker 00

  It, it does feel like they, they might use this as an excuse.

• 26:52Speaker 02

  Here's what Tony Romo has in his back pocket that could potentially save him.

• 26:59Speaker 02

  Jerry Jones. Did you hear Jerry Jones talking about Tony Romo and how much he loves him? And he's just like, he's, he, he's gotten hit. He'll get back up. Jerry Jones, he's gonna put some screws to CBS if he, if, if they try to can his boy.

• 27:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's not.

• 27:14Speaker 02

  That might be the power play that you have, because you know Jerry Jones loves that all the Cowboys have jobs in media.

• 27:20Speaker 00

  So CBS, they, I, I can see what they're doing right now because the, the writing was somewhat on the wall where maybe they weren't super. You don't let those reports leak out last year about Tony Romo, about how like he needs to prep more for games. Those don't, those don't get leaked out unintentionally. And the fact that maybe there might be some sort of an excuse. I don't know. What kind of leave, like, what, what are they hoping to see from Tony? Are, are they negotiating a buyout right now? Is that why he's on leave?

• 27:47Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 27:48Speaker 00

  Is he seeking treatment? Is he at grandma, grandpa's house?

• 27:50Speaker 02

  He might be.

• 27:51Speaker 00

  Where is Tony?

• 27:52Speaker 02

  I do feel, I feel bad that J.J. Watt is like, J.J. Watt is really good at announcing and he's gonna be really good with Jim Nance. And it's kind of sucks that like, he's, he's been put in this predicament where it's like, oh, you're getting this job. We don't know if it's your job. Just give J.J. the job. He's good. He'll do great. He'll fucking, he, he will do his homework.

• 28:11Speaker 00

  He'll be really good. He's great. Um, you've got like Greg Olson is great. Tom Brady has gotten better. We might be entering the golden age of announcers.

• 28:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. So Tony Romo on ice for now. I cannot believe, I cannot believe we had him on the show a month ago. And this is all transpired.

• 28:31Speaker 00

  I know.

• 28:31Speaker 02

  It's insane. Like we were.

• 28:34Speaker 02

  We were begging CBS to get rid of him.

• 28:37Speaker 00

  I know.

• 28:37Speaker 02

  And then we spent an hour with him. We're like, that guy was cool.

• 28:40Speaker 00

  I mean, he was a cool guy to us. He's a cool guy to us, but I mean, this, this was in motion well before we ever sat down with Tony Romo that that they might not have been super happy with how, how much they're paying. Oh, you know what this goes to show is like, every time I see what the salary of uh, like an in-game analyst is for either Fox or CBS, it blows my mind.

• 29:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:03Speaker 00

  It's crazy to me how much these guys get paid.

• 29:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. All right. I'm going to rip through some training camp stories. You tell, stop if we want to talk at length about any of them. Debo Samuel back on the 49ers.

• 29:15Speaker 00

  I'm glad he's back.

• 29:16Speaker 02

  Also, the 49ers substation has taken all of them again.

• 29:20Speaker 00

  Ricky Pierce all PCL didn't heal correctly. He's probably out for the year. Yeah. And the substation gets bigger. Have you seen like the, the highlight clips from the practices?

• 29:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:31Speaker 00

  You can't tell me that the substation was that big last year. I think it just gets stronger. It adds, it, it just keeps growing.

• 29:37Speaker 02

  And also, um,

• 29:39Speaker 00

  Look at that thing.

• 29:40Speaker 02

  Kyle, yeah, it's so huge. Kyle Shanahan is like, this concussion is a serious deal. Did you hear like, he did an interview last week where I think he had, he had to keep his eyes closed. Cause like the, in like the noise of practice is fucking with him. He said that his decision-making is delayed. So I hope he gets better, but like that's, that seems like it should be a bigger deal. One of the best head coaches in the NFL is having delayed decision-making.

• 30:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's not good. I hope he's okay. Who do you think, like if there, if there has to be um, like an in-game interim coach, I know Chris Forrester is running the show right now on kind of interim basis. You think he's going to be the one that's like calling timeouts, doing everything on game day?

• 30:20Speaker 02

  I think it has to be Jim Tomsula. They gotta bring him back.

• 30:23Speaker 00

  I would love that.

• 30:24Speaker 02

  Bring Jim, Jim Tomsula back. Let him just fucking go.

• 30:27Speaker 00

  Let's see who else we got here. Uh, we got Raheem Morris.

• 30:30Speaker 02

  That's okay.

• 30:31Speaker 00

  Clay Kubiak.

• 30:32Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 30:35Speaker 00

  Chris Forrester.

• 30:36Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 30:37Speaker 00

  Matt Eberflus.

• 30:38Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 30:39Speaker 00

  We might have to see what Matt Eberflus has in store.

• 30:41Speaker 02

  How did he get a job? Holy shit.

• 30:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:45Speaker 02

  It really is incredible. If you're, if you, if you raise, if you rise to the ranks of, of head coach or coordinator in the NFL, you just have a job.

• 30:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:54Speaker 02

  Forever.

• 30:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:55Speaker 02

  Someone will hire you.

• 30:56Speaker 00

  Let's see who else. Anybody, anyone else want this gig?

• 31:00Speaker 02

  Did you see Matt Nagy's offense has been characterized as disjointed for the Giants so far? I love early training camp stories because they're just like, okay. It's been disjointed, like just, it's just basically cliches and, uh, you know, the offense looks good, but the defense looks better. So maybe that's good. Uh, all right. Other stories. Saints signed Chris Olave to a four-year extension. Great for, for our guy, Shuck. Jadevion Clowney is still playing football.

• 31:27Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 31:29Speaker 02

  On the Texans. Isn't that crazy?

• 31:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. He's just done a, a series of one-year deals. He's, he's been bouncing around the league a little bit. This feels like full circle. Maybe, maybe his last season.

• 31:40Speaker 02

  I don't know. We've said that probably a thousand times.

• 31:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. But that defense, good for them.

• 31:45Speaker 02

  Yeah. Uh, Jaden Daniels gave his mom a piggyback ride.

• 31:48Speaker 00

  That's not true. That was a complete, that was AI.

• 31:50Speaker 02

  Was it actually?

• 31:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was fake.

• 31:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know.

• 31:52Speaker 00

  It was fake.

• 31:53Speaker 02

  Well, you guys were on top of it.

• 31:54Speaker 03

  You were, yeah, you were on top of.

• 31:56Speaker 00

  That was real.

• 31:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, that one was real.

• 31:58Speaker 00

  It was me.

• 31:58Speaker 02

  PFT was getting a piggyback ride.

• 32:00Speaker 00

  I, after practice in Ashburn, I, I hopped on Jaden's back. It's a little fun thing that we do after practice and we do the wee. And I say wee and he like runs across the field. It's a fun, fun little game that we have. And then somebody took that picture and then put Jaden's mom on my face.

• 32:16Speaker 02

  Are you saying football crave is not a trustworthy Twitter account?

• 32:20Speaker 00

  I don't know. Football crave is the one that did the Photoshop or you know, there's, there's.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  Football crave was all over it.

• 32:25Speaker 00

  There's a new law against that sort of thing now.

• 32:27Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 32:28Speaker 00

  So just, you know, I would be careful. Just make sure that you use my face. Don't put Jaden's mom on my face ever again. You'll get sued.

• 32:36Speaker 02

  Uh, Travis Kelsey's got a belly.

• 32:39Speaker 00

  He's having a good time.

• 32:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, he just got married. Lay off the guy.

• 32:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's got some, uh, never mind. Not gonna say what I was about to say right there. Good job, PFT, biting your tongue at the last second before you said something awful.

• 32:52Speaker 02

  But yeah, he, uh, he does, he does look a little bit larger.

• 32:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, he looks, yeah, he looks happy.

• 32:58Speaker 03

  There was also. He's gonna lose, he's gonna lose that.

• 33:00Speaker 02

  Ew, yeah.

• 33:00Speaker 00

  Plays way into shape.

• 33:01Speaker 02

  I, I, like, these guys, especially veterans, they show up, they look fat, and then they just take one big shit and do a couple crunches and they're good.

• 33:09Speaker 00

  That's it.

• 33:09Speaker 02

  They get in the, they get in the cold tub for five minutes and they fucking have abs again.

• 33:13Speaker 00

  I'm convinced Mahomes is just gonna be back to the bad man again this year.

• 33:16Speaker 02

  Oh, dude, I.

• 33:17Speaker 00

  I, I saw so many, so many clips of him in practice that's, like, people are, are just, they're trying to dunk on Mahomes for, like, day one, day two training camp. He threw a pass into his center's head. I saw that clip. Yeah, a very funny clip. He's just, he's gonna be good. He's gonna be really good again this year.

• 33:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:34Speaker 00

  The bad man's back.

• 33:34Speaker 02

  The Chiefs are, uh, I mean, remember, the Chiefs last year, they were like the snake bitten team, like, where they were just losing games that they should have won and all this shit. I, they're gonna be good. And people are gonna say, what the fuck? How'd this happen? They're gonna be good. I, I, I completely agree with you. Um, if Travis Kelsey can take that big shit.

• 33:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, he'll be okay.

• 33:56Speaker 02

  Take that big shit.

• 33:57Speaker 00

  He'll be okay.

• 33:57Speaker 02

  Uh, Taysom Hill is, uh, a free agent and might play for the Broncos, which should rock.

• 34:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, no duh.

• 34:04Speaker 02

  That would be so sad.

• 34:05Speaker 00

  When he, when he did his goodbye to the Saints, immediately it was like, yeah, I know, I know one coach that's probably gonna give him a call.

• 34:11Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 34:11Speaker 00

  Um, Sean Payton is absolutely in love with Taysom Hill, so yeah, I'm sure he'll be a Bronco before the week's over.

• 34:17Speaker 02

  And then we also had an incredible, uh, fan fight at Steelers camp, which I loved so much because it was, we, we, we say it all the time, but this time of summer, like, if your team is fighting each other, it means it's time for football. Like, you gotta, you gotta maybe do a, maybe the Steelers need to do a practice with the Eagles so we can get some fa, you know, Eagles fans fighting Steelers fans, uh, Icy Lib in Pickensburg kind of thing. But the best part of the Steelers fight is we had a grown man in a Steelers helmet be the voice of reason and be like, be men. And just show up and be like, be men. And I, I think Pat Frymuth might have stolen a child too during this fight. He got a, in, in a good way. He still, he took a child out of harms way. So shout out Pat Frymuth. Good guy award.

• 35:02Speaker 00

  They need to do joint practices for the fans too.

• 35:05Speaker 02

  Yes, I'm saying.

• 35:05Speaker 00

  The fans are, the fans are sick of hitting each other.

• 35:07Speaker 02

  Right.

• 35:07Speaker 00

  They need to have some actual opposition going.

• 35:09Speaker 02

  I'm saying.

• 35:10Speaker 00

  Um, and then there was some news about Miles Garrett. He's dealing with a little soreness in his lower half.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 35:16Speaker 00

  Per Sean McVay.

• 35:17Speaker 02

  Hockey injury right there.

• 35:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, lower body injury, uh, for Miles Garrett. So McVay is, uh, is not having a practice. I guess that that's three days in a row that Miles Garrett has not practiced. It doesn't matter. He'll be fine.

• 35:29Speaker 02

  Aaron Donald will probably be a Ram soon. I, I saw, I think Schrager said that the arrow's pointing up towards him becoming, oh, Albert Pierre said it.

• 35:37Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 35:38Speaker 02

  Uh, so he's gonna, he's gonna be, uh, he's gonna be on the Rams.

• 35:42Speaker 00

  If I was him, I would just go over to Australia right now.

• 35:45Speaker 02

  What's happening with Los Angeles? They're just getting all the good teams.

• 35:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:49Speaker 02

  Rams are gonna win it all?

• 35:51Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 35:53Speaker 02

  What?

• 35:54Speaker 03

  Memes just said they need an earthquake.

• 35:56Speaker 02

  Memes.

• 35:57Speaker 00

  Memes, they don't need an earthquake.

• 35:58Speaker 02

  Memes. Like what, what size memes? You gotta clarify.

• 36:01Speaker 03

  Big one.

• 36:02Speaker 02

  Big one.

• 36:05Speaker 02

  Memes. Memes. They don't need an earthquake.

• 36:08Speaker 03

  Good joke.

• 36:09Speaker 02

  Okay. Any, any other, uh, any other news from training camps? You got one? Me, Max? You're looking at me.

• 36:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, well.

• 36:18Speaker 02

  Nick Sirianni, Howie Roseman did a, a press conference in shades. That looked kinda cool.

• 36:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's fine.

• 36:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:23Speaker 03

  I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I was just told to not worry about the quarterback competition in Minnesota, even though it looks like Kyler.

• 36:32Speaker 02

  Kyler's playing better.

• 36:34Speaker 03

  Well, he had one, he had one good day and everyone said, saying that this is Kyler's job. It's Kyler's job, but, but JJ's played better in every other game. And every other practice.

• 36:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, but there was one day?

• 36:45Speaker 03

  Saturday, Kyler played a lot better and was getting all the first team reps. But that's only because it's a new quarterback trying to learn a new offense and it's not that I was given a script of what, of what to say here.

• 36:55Speaker 00

  Got it. But also like this is the time of year that you want your quarterback to make mistakes.

• 37:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:01Speaker 00

  Right? You wanna, you wanna take some shots. You want, you want them to really be pushing it. Then you can always dial it back.

• 37:09Speaker 03

  Correct, yep.

• 37:10Speaker 00

  I think nine is gonna be the starter this year. My depth chart is no, number one, nine.

• 37:16Speaker 03

  The official, yeah, the official.

• 37:18Speaker 00

  Number two, three, irrelevant.

• 37:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, agreed.

• 37:20Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 37:21Speaker 03

  Nine, nine, one.

• 37:24Speaker 00

  Uh, Jalen Hurts said that he wrote a hundred percent alignment, zero entitlement in his notebook.

• 37:30Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 37:30Speaker 00

  During Nick Sirianni's address to the team at the start of training camp.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  Sounds like he wasn't listening.

• 37:35Speaker 00

  He's got, he's got a note, a notebook that he writes in when coach is talking.

• 37:38Speaker 02

  He was just writing shit while coach was talking?

• 37:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:41Speaker 03

  That's, that's called taking notes?

• 37:42Speaker 02

  I don't say, it sounds like.

• 37:43Speaker 00

  Alignment, zero entitlement.

• 37:45Speaker 02

  Sirianni said?

• 37:46Speaker 00

  It would make, it would make more sense if the article said that that was the message that Nick Sirianni was giving and that Jalen Hurts was taking notes. It sounds like he was just doodling.

• 37:55Speaker 02

  Like he was writing his name like Jalen Sirianni?

• 37:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:58Speaker 02

  While he was staring at coach?

• 37:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:02Speaker 03

  Jalen Hurts is gonna have a great year.

• 38:04Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 38:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:05Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 38:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:06Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 38:06Speaker 03

  Great year.

• 38:08Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 38:09Speaker 03

  Devante Smith might have eighteen hundred yards. Birds are gonna be, yeah.

• 38:14Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 38:16Speaker 03

  Birds are gonna be good.

• 38:18Speaker 02

  You're, you're buying, cause it's, it's an off year where you've, you have a real offensive coordinator.

• 38:22Speaker 03

  Right. Everyone just keeps saying he's an evil genius.

• 38:26Speaker 02

  Sean Mannion?

• 38:27Speaker 03

  Yeah. Love hearing the evil.

• 38:28Speaker 02

  Evil genius.

• 38:29Speaker 00

  What does that mean?

• 38:29Speaker 04

  Evil?

• 38:31Speaker 03

  I don't know. That's just what, that's just what people are saying.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  Evil genius?

• 38:35Speaker 03

  Yeah. You, I want, you want your football coach to be a little bit evil?

• 38:40Speaker 02

  I'm excited for Hard Knocks on Tuesday night. We're gonna, we're gonna watch the first episode and record after. That is really the official, official start of football season. It's not the Hall of Fame game, it's Hard Knocks.

• 38:49Speaker 00

  It is kinda weird that they decided that they were gonna just like forget the rule about if a team made the playoffs.

• 38:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:55Speaker 00

  And so it's just the Super Bowl champion's gonna be a hard.

• 38:57Speaker 02

  Well, I think they had to forget the rule because there's seventeen Hard Knocks now.

• 39:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:01Speaker 02

  Like there's in-season, there's.

• 39:02Speaker 00

  Right.

• 39:03Speaker 02

  OTA, there's Hard Knocks, it feels like every two seconds you turn around, there's a Hard Knocks.

• 39:08Speaker 00

  Right. In, in preparation for the Hall of Fame game, our, our friend Warren Sharp tweeted out, you know, you ever go in like Pro Football Reference? And it always has like all the players nicknames?

• 39:18Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 39:18Speaker 00

  And you get to learn nicknames that you never knew existed?

• 39:21Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 39:22Speaker 00

  Bryce Young, his nickname is the Carolina Reaper.

• 39:25Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 39:25Speaker 00

  Have you ever heard that?

• 39:26Speaker 02

  No, but I like.

• 39:28Speaker 00

  It's a pretty good nickname.

• 39:29Speaker 02

  I like it a lot.

• 39:30Speaker 00

  The pepper. Yeah.

• 39:32Speaker 02

  So it's gonna be, well, Bryce Young's not gonna play. We're gonna get some fun quarterbacks, Panthers versus Cardinals.

• 39:38Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 39:38Speaker 02

  That's gonna be a lot of fun.

• 39:40Speaker 00

  Wait, let's see, who's backing up?

• 39:41Speaker 02

  The depth chart. Yeah, yeah. Well, is Carson Beck gonna play? Probably not. They don't even play like the ones and twos anymore in the, in this game, right? Oh, Gardner Minshew, Kedon Slovis.

• 39:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:56Speaker 02

  USC, Pitt fame. Did he? He came on the show, didn't he?

• 39:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:00Speaker 02

  I think he was a guest on the show. Kedon Slovis, so we could have Kedon Slovis and Gardner Minshew versus, uh,

• 40:11Speaker 02

  mm, Kenny Pickett. Wow.

• 40:13Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 40:14Speaker 02

  And Haynes King.

• 40:15Speaker 00

  Haynes King.

• 40:15Speaker 02

  This is gonna be fun. A Georgia Tech, Pitt match. We're gonna watch ACC football on Thursday night.

• 40:22Speaker 00

  I can't wait.

• 40:23Speaker 02

  I'm so excited.

• 40:24Speaker 00

  It's gonna be the uniforms. We're gonna get to see the uniforms.

• 40:27Speaker 02

  The Cardinals, by the way, yeah, I think you mentioned it, the Cardinals having an over under win total of two and a half is very, I, I gotta take the over.

• 40:36Speaker 00

  It's crazy.

• 40:36Speaker 02

  They're gonna win. Three and a half. Oh, it's three and a half. Okay.

• 40:39Speaker 00

  The all time.

• 40:40Speaker 02

  I thought it was two and a half.

• 40:41Speaker 00

  No, it's three and a half.

• 40:41Speaker 02

  I mean, they are tanking.

• 40:42Speaker 00

  All time lowest was three wins, and that was the expansion Panthers and Jaguars.

• 40:48Speaker 02

  Okay, so it's three and a half.

• 40:49Speaker 00

  So it's three and a half.

• 40:50Speaker 02

  I might have to take this over.

• 40:51Speaker 00

  They have the hardest schedule in the NFL.

• 40:52Speaker 02

  But it would also be so fun to like have them stuck at three wins, week, week 18, just being like, come on, they're just trying to win a game.

• 41:01Speaker 00

  They don't have any tape on, on the floor. That's the thing.

• 41:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. And they have Jeremiah Love, who should have won Heisman.

• 41:06Speaker 00

  They got Jeremiah Love, yeah.

• 41:08Speaker 02

  That's huge.

• 41:08Speaker 00

  I have seen a couple of clips of him in, in training camp where like they hand the ball to him and there's instantly four guys in the backfield.

• 41:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:15Speaker 00

  But maybe, maybe that's just that nasty, uh, uh, Arizona Cardinals defense.

• 41:20Speaker 02

  It is also funny. They have Tyler Algier, who he feels like he just follows really good running backs.

• 41:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:26Speaker 02

  It's like, yeah, you know what? Let's throw this guy out there, too. Smart strategy. You don't wanna burn Jeremiah Love for. Team that has an over under three and a half wins.

• 41:34Speaker 00

  Let's see. And so, uh, class of 2026 in the pro football hall of fame for the hall of fame game. We got Drew Brees.

• 41:40Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 41:40Speaker 00

  Getting inducted. Who do you think is going to give?

• 41:42Speaker 02

  Oh, that's kind of a slap that they didn't get the Saints to play in this game.

• 41:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:46Speaker 02

  He's, he's the headliner. Is he not Larry Fitz as well?

• 41:48Speaker 00

  Well, he's not retired, but he is going to the hall of fame. Yeah. Larry Fitz.

• 41:51Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 41:52Speaker 00

  Uh, Luke Keakley, that would, that would mean the Panthers, Adam Vinatieri.

• 41:57Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 41:57Speaker 00

  Colts legend. And then Roger Craig.

• 42:01Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 42:03Speaker 02

  What a.

• 42:03Speaker 04

  Good class.

• 42:05Speaker 02

  Drew Brees, it does not feel like Drew Brees has been retired for five years.

• 42:08Speaker 00

  No, no. It doesn't.

• 42:11Speaker 02

  That kind of fucks me up.

• 42:12Speaker 04

  Where's that? Uh, where's the picture?

• 42:17Speaker 00

  Oh, the certificate?

• 42:20Speaker 02

  I keep it.

• 42:20Speaker 00

  The, uh, passing yardage?

• 42:21Speaker 02

  Keep it in a very nice space, right behind my, my spot, my desk, uh, on the floor. And I think I got a stain on it now, but look at that. Isn't that nice?

• 42:34Speaker 00

  Beautiful.

• 42:35Speaker 02

  It's beautiful.

• 42:35Speaker 04

  NFL record most passing yards.

• 42:37Speaker 02

  I actually saw him at Tahoe. He's like, that's bullshit. They gave that to you and not me. I was like, sorry, Drew.

• 42:43Speaker 00

  Sell it to him.

• 42:44Speaker 02

  I should.

• 42:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. Hold it hostage.

• 42:45Speaker 02

  We should hold it hostage.

• 42:46Speaker 00

  Do you think Drew Brees?

• 42:47Speaker 02

  This would be nice to go next to Larry Fitzgerald's official retirement.

• 42:50Speaker 00

  It will. Yeah.

• 42:51Speaker 02

  This will be, we'll have our own personal class of 2026 Hall of Fame enshrinement right here.

• 42:56Speaker 00

  You think Drew Brees will, will acknowledge his daughter?

• 42:59Speaker 02

  At the, I think he's got to do it first.

• 43:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:02Speaker 02

  I think he's going to maybe make a joke of it or not, because he doesn't know she exists.

• 43:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:07Speaker 02

  No, he, he definitely will. That'll be very funny if he, if he, uh, if he holds out till the very end and maybe gives her some extra shine.

• 43:15Speaker 00

  I've got a new.

• 43:15Speaker 02

  It's just good to talk football with the boys. I feel good right now.

• 43:18Speaker 00

  I've got a new slogan. Maybe we can think about doing for like, maybe the part of my take 2026 NFL season slogan.

• 43:24Speaker 02

  Okay. We need one.

• 43:25Speaker 00

  Chop wood, carry water.

• 43:27Speaker 02

  Is that from Nick Sirianni?

• 43:29Speaker 00

  Oh, is it?

• 43:29Speaker 02

  Yeah. I like that. Chop wood, carry water.

• 43:31Speaker 00

  Chop wood, carry water.

• 43:32Speaker 02

  Chop wood, carry water. What are we building?

• 43:36Speaker 00

  I don't know. What are we building?

• 43:37Speaker 02

  Chop wood, carry water.

• 43:38Speaker 00

  He's not paying attention.

• 43:39Speaker 02

  Oh, he's not. He's ADD kicked in.

• 43:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:41Speaker 02

  Hey, what do you like about chop wood, carry water?

• 43:45Speaker 03

  Uh.

• 43:46Speaker 02

  Rocky's real to me.

• 43:48Speaker 00

  Which is more important chopping wood or carrying water?

• 43:51Speaker 03

  Hmm chopping wood.

• 43:53Speaker 00

  Why?

• 43:54Speaker 02

  What dude, you you gonna live without water?

• 43:57Speaker 03

  But chopping wood is.

• 43:58Speaker 02

  Sorry, water?

• 44:00Speaker 03

  Chopping wood's grittier.

• 44:01Speaker 02

  Did he say it like that?

• 44:02Speaker 00

  Chop chop wood carry water? It might have been chop chop water, water, and they might have mistranscribed it chop water, carry water.

• 44:10Speaker 03

  I I I say water, except for when I say I'm.

• 44:14Speaker 02

  Water ice.

• 44:15Speaker 03

  Something water ice and if I'm like watering down a drink.

• 44:19Speaker 02

  What are you putting in the drink?

• 44:21Speaker 03

  If I put water, I'm watering it down.

• 44:22Speaker 00

  How often are you watering down drinks?

• 44:24Speaker 03

  Uh, sometimes iced teas, I don't like iced tea that's too sweet, so I.

• 44:28Speaker 02

  So you water it down?

• 44:29Speaker 00

  I've drank a lot with you. I don't think I've ever heard you say I'm gonna water this down.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  I've also don't think I've ever heard you say something's too sweet.

• 44:37Speaker 03

  I think that sometimes iced tea is too sweet. I like it. I like it a little bit watered down.

• 44:40Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 44:42Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 44:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, okay.

• 44:43Speaker 00

  All right, chop wood.

• 44:44Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 44:45Speaker 03

  All right, yeah, chop wood.

• 44:46Speaker 02

  Zach, give us something about the Bucks. I saw Baker kind of walk back his comments.

• 44:50Speaker 00

  He walked back a little bit. That's refreshing. He's still standing on the the whole, uh, we're getting into football now. Don't want to hear about it. They'll pay for it. He did walk it back, which feels good. Going into the season, because you, he said there wouldn't be, it wouldn't leak into the locker room, but you don't want any animosity.

• 45:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:03Speaker 00

  So that feel, that did feel fantastic. Another thing I saw out of training camps, uh, you guys saw it could be the Shador show in Cleveland.

• 45:09Speaker 02

  Oh, I've seen a little bit of both. I also saw a tweet that that, uh, the best quarterback on the Browns roster is not Shador or Deshaun Watson.

• 45:21Speaker 00

  It's Shador time.

• 45:22Speaker 02

  You think so?

• 45:23Speaker 00

  I think so, yeah. He said, he said that, uh, he he found himself in a routine now, and then he learned a lot from the last season.

• 45:29Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 45:30Speaker 00

  Now, wait, is it, are they saying that that, what's his name?

• 45:32Speaker 02

  Dylan Gabriel.

• 45:33Speaker 00

  Is it Green, the guy from Arkansas?

• 45:35Speaker 02

  No, I think Dylan Gabriel, but maybe it's Taylor Green.

• 45:38Speaker 00

  Because we saw, I I think I speak for America when I say we we had our fill of Dylan Gabriel last year.

• 45:44Speaker 02

  I don't want to say that.

• 45:45Speaker 00

  I'd be okay with no more Dylan Gabriel.

• 45:46Speaker 02

  I don't want to say that because I would love for the Browns to start Dylan Gabriel so we could bet against him.

• 45:51Speaker 00

  I, yep, that good point.

• 45:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, remember, what was the quarterback that would, what was the quarterback the Browns started that was just an auto? Like I made, I think they only did it like once or twice. Fuck.

• 46:01Speaker 00

  DTR.

• 46:02Speaker 02

  DTR.

• 46:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:03Speaker 02

  DTR was my favorite. Holy shit, DTR. Thank you.

• 46:06Speaker 00

  There was just nothing about him that was professional or quarterback.

• 46:10Speaker 02

  He shouldn't have been out there and they're just like, we're starting DTR. It's like, all right, I'm betting against.

• 46:13Speaker 00

  I'm sure he's a nice guy.

• 46:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:15Speaker 00

  Should have been.

• 46:15Speaker 02

  We need those guys to be in the ecosystem to have confidence to be like, yeah, you know what? We're starting Dylan Gabriel. I'm like, thank you. I needed one free win this week.

• 46:24Speaker 00

  I would like to see Taylor Green. That would be fun. Oh, no, again, I go back to the funniest. I would like to see Deshaun Watson play good for a couple of weeks and then the Browns give him an extension. That would be very funny.

• 46:37Speaker 02

  That would be very funny.

• 46:40Speaker 02

  All right. It's good talk ball.

• 46:41Speaker 00

  How's Patriots looking?

• 46:42Speaker 04

  Great. AJ Brown, Christian Gonzalez going at it every day. Iron sharpens iron.

• 46:47Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 46:48Speaker 04

  AJ Brown confirmed, uh, ate some of Ann Michael Ma's cookies.

• 46:53Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 46:53Speaker 04

  So that relationship's going great.

• 46:55Speaker 02

  Oh, that's great.

• 46:56Speaker 00

  It's really good.

• 46:56Speaker 02

  That's great.

• 46:57Speaker 00

  Love to see that.

• 46:58Speaker 02

  Love to see that.

• 46:59Speaker 00

  Yeah. Has, uh, Vrabel gone to the podium with like orphans or?

• 47:03Speaker 04

  I mean, that was just the Patriots. They were doing a thing to like, help, you know, shine a light on a charity for dogs and Vrabel participated.

• 47:11Speaker 03

  He also brought his kid.

• 47:12Speaker 00

  Oh, good.

• 47:13Speaker 03

  The next day.

• 47:13Speaker 04

  Oh, coach brought a kid to, to training camp. Wow.

• 47:18Speaker 00

  I mean, Sirianni's kind of stealing this whole thing. Vrabel's initial was like, yeah, chop wood. If we win a Super Bowl.

• 47:28Speaker 02

  I like, you get it?

• 47:30Speaker 04

  No.

• 47:30Speaker 02

  Cutting his dick off?

• 47:32Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 47:34Speaker 02

  That sounds like good training camp going on.

• 47:35Speaker 03

  I also may got duped now that I'm thinking about that.

• 47:37Speaker 02

  About what? No, you're saying it wasn't? What?

• 47:40Speaker 03

  About him bringing his kid.

• 47:41Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 47:43Speaker 04

  Aren't his kids like adults?

• 47:44Speaker 02

  Yes, because they're very much.

• 47:45Speaker 03

  That's why I think that I could have, I'm, I'm, I.

• 47:47Speaker 02

  I, I thought that was a little weird.

• 47:49Speaker 03

  In, in, in real, in real time, I, I, I did realize it.

• 47:53Speaker 00

  Guys, I got, I got a bad feeling that AI is just going to wreck our shit as a podcast.

• 47:57Speaker 02

  Well, no, how do you?

• 47:58Speaker 03

  Specifically, I am a big, big fat idiot.

• 48:01Speaker 00

  Dummy.

• 48:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:03Speaker 02

  Dummy.

• 48:03Speaker 00

  I did see, when I saw the initial, uh, Jaden piggyback ride with his mom, I, I did have to examine that to, to double check.

• 48:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:12Speaker 00

  They know exactly what we want. The AI is smarter than all of us already.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  The uh, I, the, the one thing that has come out of, well, two things came out of Bears camp. Caleb Williams lost some weight, looks great. And then Ben Johnson like attacked the regression narrative head on. He was like, yeah, we're the number one regression candidate. Also because Liam Cohen and the McVeigh mafia still are in their feels because Ben Johnson doesn't want to shake a hand.

• 48:38Speaker 00

  They're in the field still?

• 48:40Speaker 02

  Oh dude, they're all still, they're all, they all hate Ben Johnson, which I fucking love. But the McVeigh mafia, because it all started Liam Cohen was like, no one talks about us. You know, you'll turn, you go to NFL.com, there'll be 10 highlights of Caleb Williams knowing when we had a better season than them or something like that. And uh, Ben Johnson's like, yeah, we are the number one regression team. So people are going to talk about us and they're going to try to say that we're going to regress. But it is McVeigh mafia being upset. They all are upset. They would, they would want to fight Ben Johnson if they could. Like they don't want to like gang up and beat him. And Ben Johnson would beat all their asses.

• 49:16Speaker 00

  I do love, I do love how much they hate the guy.

• 49:19Speaker 02

  Oh, hate him.

• 49:20Speaker 00

  I, I also saw that our good friend, Will Levis gave a, a little quote to the newspapers the other day. Said, I don't think that there's 32 quarterbacks better than me. He's not done yet.

• 49:29Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 49:29Speaker 00

  I'd like to see Will Levis out there again.

• 49:32Speaker 02

  If Dylan Gabriel's one of the 32, then I agree with him.

• 49:34Speaker 00

  I would a hundred percent agree with that.

• 49:35Speaker 02

  Without a doubt.

• 49:38Speaker 00

  Okay. What other quarterbacks is Will Levis better than?

• 49:41Speaker 02

  Jacoby.

• 49:41Speaker 00

  Right now, starting Jacoby Brissette?

• 49:44Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 49:45Speaker 04

  Nine.

• 49:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, I don't know.

• 49:51Speaker 02

  Uh, I agree.

• 49:53Speaker 00

  No.

• 49:55Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 49:55Speaker 00

  No.

• 49:56Speaker 04

  No.

• 49:56Speaker 00

  Not even close.

• 49:57Speaker 04

  No.

• 50:00Speaker 04

  Who's starting for the Dolphins?

• 50:02Speaker 00

  Malik Willis.

• 50:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:05Speaker 00

  Who's better?

• 50:05Speaker 02

  He did, he did well last year.

• 50:08Speaker 02

  I keep having to remind myself, Geno Smith's back on the Jets.

• 50:12Speaker 00

  That's right. Yeah. Why, why do you have to keep reminding?

• 50:15Speaker 02

  I don't know. Cause I keep asking myself, who's going to be the jet? And I'm like, oh yeah, Geno's back. Cause we remember we, we said, we're not talking about last year when it comes to Gino and Pete Carroll. So I don't, it's like a gap year. I didn't even know that. I thought he retired last year. Cause we're doing, we're, we're following through on our, our promise.

• 50:34Speaker 00

  Fair, but you should know, you should know that.

• 50:35Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 50:36Speaker 00

  You gotta be better.

• 50:37Speaker 02

  I know now.

• 50:37Speaker 00

  I'm finding myself more and more day in, day out, Atlanta curious going into this year. We've got, I mean, I don't know with Penix and Tua, what's going to happen there.

• 50:47Speaker 02

  That might be another one that he's better. I mean.

• 50:49Speaker 00

  But.

• 50:49Speaker 02

  Penix, Tua combo is quite something.

• 50:52Speaker 00

  I think Stefanski is a really good coach.

• 50:54Speaker 02

  That is leftist of me. I'll agree a hundred percent, but guess what? My son's a lefty. So I'm allowed to say it.

• 50:59Speaker 00

  Yeah. I feel like I, Stefanski is a good coach.

• 51:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, he's a really good coach. I don't know if he's, I don't know if those are the quarterbacks. He might need to get his quarterback. Might not be on the roster right now.

• 51:12Speaker 00

  I don't know if Cousins is going to be great for Vegas. The thing is with, with the Raiders, I don't know when they're going to start Mendoza. Because if you look at their schedule, their schedule is actually, Las Vegas has a crazy schedule. There's no great place to put.

• 51:27Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, that's because they're bad.

• 51:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, but they're, look at the schedule, pull it up.

• 51:32Speaker 02

  I know, but bad teams always, if you look at any bad team schedule, you're like, that's a really hard schedule because you're playing the win-loss game. You're like, that team's bad.

• 51:39Speaker 00

  Sure. But if you look at the Raiders' schedule in particular, I mean, it's tough to figure out where you would put Mendoza to make his first start.

• 51:45Speaker 02

  Week one, the Dolphins.

• 51:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But they've already said they, they don't want him to start week one.

• 51:49Speaker 02

  Week one, the Dolphins. Week three, the Saints isn't like a terrible spot. Chargers, it's not that hard of a schedule.

• 51:57Speaker 02

  Jets, play the Jets in week seven.

• 52:03Speaker 02

  That could be a place to start them. He's gonna play.

• 52:06Speaker 00

  They have some easy games, but what I'm saying is if you look at their schedule, it's not like, it's not like they're set up in a good spot for a rookie to come in.

• 52:15Speaker 02

  I think they're just gonna have to do week one Dolphins. They're gonna have to go back on their word.

• 52:18Speaker 00

  That's probably the smart way to do it.

• 52:20Speaker 02

  Yeah. Okay, let's do who's back of the week and then we will get to our interviews. We have Dan Lanning and Matt Ruhl. Awesome interviews. I do like, I actually enjoy the fact that we are now being accused of being Big Ten biased because we did a bunch of interviews when they were in our backyard. It just reminds you that college football fanbases are the most insane and I love that about them. Like, people are mad that we interviewed a bunch of head coaches because they're not the head coaches of their respective conference. I like that. I want them to be that.

• 52:51Speaker 00

  Also, the Big Ten has, I think, the more entertaining coaches of any conference.

• 52:55Speaker 02

  Well, it's not even that. They literally were doing media week 10 minutes from our office. We're gonna go interview.

• 53:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 53:03Speaker 02

  Like, that's a, that's a layup, no travel, get seven, what did we do? Six? Six, seven, six, seven? Really good interviews. There you go, Zach.

• 53:14Speaker 02

  The Kurt Signetti, by the way, I still can't get over the handshake. We went and watched some tape and he, he did it to Kalen DeBoer before the Rose Bowl.

• 53:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's his thing. So I contacted, I don't want to throw anybody's name under the bus, some friends of the show, people who are also big Jays in college football media, they've confirmed the same thing. They also said that-

• 53:33Speaker 02

  Are you talking about Tom?

• 53:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, Tom Fornelli and Andy Staples. But they, they also said that this is a Saban thing, too.

• 53:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:40Speaker 00

  Apparently Saban's known for having a really bad handshake, but-

• 53:44Speaker 02

  I think this is mental warfare. I'll stay with that. I think Kurt Signetti's doing it to fuck you up and he fucked us up.

• 53:49Speaker 00

  But I also think that there's a reason, it's, it's a small part, but it is part of the reason I think that he didn't get a head coaching job till he was 50.

• 53:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:58Speaker 00

  Because if you go on interviews and you've got two guys that the athletic director really likes looking at and they don't have a big body of work behind them, if one of them has the worst handshake that you've ever felt in your life. That might be enough to push that guy off to the side.

• 54:11Speaker 02

  But Kurt Signetti now has the answer that works where he just can say, I'm not here to hit shake hands. I'm here to coach ball.

• 54:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's just the handshake is a distraction.

• 54:22Speaker 02

  He wins.

• 54:22Speaker 00

  Handshake is candy ass.

• 54:24Speaker 02

  All right. Who's back of the week is brought to you by Twisted Tea. Summer's here and so is the Twisted Tea Summer Party Pack. Twisted Tea is a refreshing hard iced tea made with real brewed tea and 5% alcohol. They also have a new summer party pack, has a brand new twisted lemonade. It's a refreshing hard lemonade made with real lemons. It's only available in the new party pack. So grab it while you can. Whether you're hanging out at the bar, hitting the lake or beach for a weekend or day drinking with friends. Twisted Tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time, a great time. Keep the good times going all day and all summer long. Keep it twisted. Grab a refreshing twisted tea today. Hank.

• 55:00Speaker 04

  Um, who's back of the week? Wemby. Wemby's back.

• 55:02Speaker 02

  Why?

• 55:03Speaker 04

  Star of the NBA Finals. Uh, Nike came out, came out there like his official logo. Unbelievable. It's a V W and it's like in the, you know, the, the V and a W make an alien head. One of the better athlete logos I've seen in a while.

• 55:19Speaker 02

  Memes, can I, wait, can I, can I see this logo? But memes, can I say something to you real quick? You've got to start stepping in when we keep doing this because you're getting dangerously close to like Gonzaga territory where we're going to make the joke so many times that we're actually going to forget the Knicks won a title.

• 55:37Speaker 00

  No, you're not.

• 55:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:38Speaker 00

  You will always remember.

• 55:39Speaker 02

  No, I, I'm telling you, Zach, maybe you gotta start stepping in.

• 55:43Speaker 00

  Is a historic run. You'll never forget.

• 55:45Speaker 02

  I understand, but what you understand what this show does. We, we joke ourselves into reality.

• 55:52Speaker 00

  In your heart of hearts, you know, they've got it done.

• 55:56Speaker 02

  The way Hank said that he's, was the star of the NBA Finals. I was like, shit, was he?

• 56:00Speaker 00

  I mean, I think if you looked at who got the most mentions on social media, it's probably Wemby.

• 56:05Speaker 02

  That's, that's his new logo? Not for me.

• 56:08Speaker 04

  Um, didn't he just V W and see, I see the alien.

• 56:11Speaker 02

  I see it now. All right. That's for me. Didn't he have a? That's, that looks like a guy with a beard.

• 56:16Speaker 00

  I thought there was a logo that came out like six months ago when they did that big commercial and it was like a cornfield.

• 56:22Speaker 04

  I think that was like a teaser. That was like a, you know.

• 56:24Speaker 02

  Wait, where's the alien?

• 56:26Speaker 04

  If you made a circle around it, like the underneath the V.

• 56:30Speaker 02

  Oh, okay, I see. I was looking at it as a beard, a guy with a beard and a soul patch at first.

• 56:37Speaker 04

  Soul patch and a beard.

• 56:38Speaker 00

  It looks kinda like the guy Fox like Smile.

• 56:41Speaker 02

  Or it actually kinda looks like a, a, a front and back chick with a big ass booty. See, that's the booty in the front and then the, or pussy's up top.

• 56:51Speaker 00

  I'm seeing maybe some spread legs.

• 56:54Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 56:54Speaker 00

  And then the thing up top is like the bikini bottom.

• 56:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:57Speaker 04

  Rorschach back.

• 56:59Speaker 00

  What's that?

• 57:00Speaker 04

  Rorschach test.

• 57:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:03Speaker 04

  So you guys are doing?

• 57:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're doing it right now.

• 57:06Speaker 04

  Also cinema's back.

• 57:08Speaker 02

  Why?

• 57:08Speaker 04

  Biggest domestic box office weekend of all time this weekend.

• 57:12Speaker 02

  Odyssey?

• 57:13Speaker 04

  Spider-Man.

• 57:15Speaker 02

  They did another one?

• 57:17Speaker 04

  New Spider-Man, yep. Brand new day, brand new Spider-Man, brand new day. 355 mil, Odyssey made 51 mil, Toy Story 5, 6.3 mil.

• 57:27Speaker 02

  Who's in? I saw the invite, it was really good.

• 57:29Speaker 00

  Who's the Spider-Man?

• 57:30Speaker 04

  Uh, Tom Holland.

• 57:32Speaker 00

  Oh, so Tom Holland is like, although you can't escape him this week.

• 57:35Speaker 04

  And Zendaya, also in Spider-Man.

• 57:37Speaker 02

  She is? And she's in Odyssey?

• 57:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:39Speaker 02

  I gotta see these. Well, I'm not gonna see Spider-Man, but I gotta see the Odyssey.

• 57:42Speaker 04

  Odyssey's good.

• 57:43Speaker 02

  Is it?

• 57:44Speaker 03

  I'm going tomorrow.

• 57:45Speaker 02

  Are you?

• 57:45Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 57:46Speaker 02

  What time?

• 57:46Speaker 03

  70 mil.

• 57:48Speaker 04

  Whoa.

• 57:49Speaker 02

  You have 70 mil?

• 57:50Speaker 03

  70 millimeter.

• 57:51Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 57:52Speaker 03

  Film?

• 57:52Speaker 02

  Well, you're a filmmaker.

• 57:54Speaker 03

  No, no, I used to be.

• 57:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

• 57:57Speaker 03

  I used to be.

• 57:58Speaker 00

  Why don't they make more of those theaters?

• 57:59Speaker 02

  This didn't help, by the way, whoever's making this.

• 58:01Speaker 03

  I, yeah, I made that circle. It doesn't look like an alien with the circle. I made.

• 58:05Speaker 04

  Well, you didn't.

• 58:06Speaker 02

  I still can't see the alien, really.

• 58:08Speaker 03

  What do you mean I didn't? What, what, what didn't I do?

• 58:12Speaker 04

  You're supposed to circle, like the bottom is supposed to be the circle.

• 58:15Speaker 02

  He looks like an alien wearing a sick pair of Oakleys. I got it. Okay.

• 58:24Speaker 03

  I just don't understand what he's saying.

• 58:25Speaker 04

  It's alright.

• 58:26Speaker 02

  Hank, you like Odyssey?

• 58:28Speaker 04

  I like Odyssey a lot.

• 58:29Speaker 02

  Okay, too long?

• 58:31Speaker 04

  No, I, I, I, I saw it last Sunday night after we recorded, uh, didn't fall asleep during it.

• 58:38Speaker 04

  Top five Nolan movie?

• 58:40Speaker 02

  I mean, that's a, there's a lot of good Nolan movies.

• 58:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:44Speaker 00

  I thought it was pretty good. It's long.

• 58:47Speaker 00

  It, I, it felt.

• 58:47Speaker 04

  I have been thinking about it a lot since I've seen it, like Oppenheimer.

• 58:51Speaker 02

  That's my test.

• 58:52Speaker 04

  I saw. Didn't really think about it too much after.

• 58:55Speaker 02

  Well, you didn't understand Oppenheimer.

• 58:56Speaker 04

  And haven't had that much interest in watching it again.

• 58:59Speaker 02

  You didn't understand.

• 58:59Speaker 04

  The Odyssey I saw and the more, you know, the farther away I got from it, the more I've been thinking about it and I will definitely watch it again. Maybe even try and go 70 millimeters.

• 59:07Speaker 02

  Didn't you say after Oppenheimer, you didn't understand why there was black and white? Half the movies in black and white?

• 59:11Speaker 04

  No.

• 59:11Speaker 02

  I'm pretty sure he said that.

• 59:13Speaker 00

  I thought that it was, uh, it's a long movie, but it, it never felt long to me.

• 59:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:18Speaker 00

  Which is, that's a mark of, I think, a really good long movie.

• 59:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:21Speaker 04

  Tom, Tom Holland. Not the best performance out of.

• 59:25Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 59:25Speaker 04

  Like he was, he was, he was fine.

• 59:26Speaker 02

  In Spider-Man?

• 59:28Speaker 04

  In Odyssey.

• 59:29Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 59:29Speaker 00

  I agree. Wasn't inspired by him.

• 59:32Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 59:33Speaker 00

  Also didn't really feel the sparks between Anne Hathaway and Matt Damon.

• 59:36Speaker 02

  So you think maybe he was a little too focused on Spider-Man?

• 59:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, could have been.

• 59:40Speaker 00

  I think he might've forgotten which role he was playing.

• 59:42Speaker 02

  Is, is, is, are the movies back? Is this one of those like Gen Z? They don't, they don't drink, but they go to movies.

• 59:49Speaker 04

  Well, you know, streaming, COVID, cinema's dead, like all these, all these movies are going to Netflix and HBO.

• 59:54Speaker 02

  No, we had Nicole Kidman in that ad. She was just like, come back to the movies and we all did.

• 59:58Speaker 04

  And they are, yeah. People are listening.

• 1:00:00Speaker 00

  Sometimes heartache feels good in a place like this.

• 1:00:04Speaker 04

  Send them back.

• 1:00:06Speaker 02

  What's Liv doing?

• 1:00:08Speaker 04

  What do you mean?

• 1:00:09Speaker 03

  Well, what is. We had to hit the quota.

• 1:00:12Speaker 04

  They have an event next week.

• 1:00:13Speaker 00

  Okay. Oh, oh. What event?

• 1:00:16Speaker 04

  In New York.

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  Bankruptcy filing?

• 1:00:18Speaker 00

  Is it a?

• 1:00:19Speaker 04

  It's at Trump's course, where Trump, Trump won the senior club championship.

• 1:00:22Speaker 00

  Is it a tournament?

• 1:00:23Speaker 02

  Are they?

• 1:00:24Speaker 00

  Or is it an event?

• 1:00:25Speaker 04

  It's a, it's a live event.

• 1:00:26Speaker 03

  They should let Trump play.

• 1:00:27Speaker 00

  They should. I agree.

• 1:00:28Speaker 02

  Are they at the federal court in Brooklyn?

• 1:00:30Speaker 00

  So Max, I was thinking about this because we're trying to figure out who the mystery bid might be. For Liv. I think Trump might just buy Liv. And, and do the Trump golf tour.

• 1:00:41Speaker 02

  And just win it?

• 1:00:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, just, yeah.

• 1:00:43Speaker 03

  I would watch.

• 1:00:43Speaker 00

  I would watch too. Hell yeah.

• 1:00:47Speaker 00

  Like, everybody's televised except for him. And then, so he gets to say whatever number he thinks that he shot at the end of every round. And so if he beat, like, he might beat Michael Kim.

• 1:00:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, it should be televised.

• 1:00:59Speaker 04

  Michael Kim's on live, Anthony Kim.

• 1:01:01Speaker 02

  But none of it is live. It's only, you only see his good shots.

• 1:01:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, his shot, yeah, okay, you're right.

• 1:01:08Speaker 02

  So they follow it.

• 1:01:08Speaker 00

  They follow it, but you don't see all of his shots. There's no Trump tracker. You, in fact, that's a national security threat. If there's a Trump tracker, that account gets shut down immediately. And then whatever he says he shot, that's what we go with. And then we see like three highlights from his round.

• 1:01:25Speaker 00

  I would watch that.

• 1:01:28Speaker 02

  Okay, uh, your who's back, PFT?

• 1:01:30Speaker 00

  Uh, my who's back of the week is Carl Ravitch.

• 1:01:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:33Speaker 00

  Carl Ravitch is back. He got let go unceremoniously from ESPN last week. And, um, then he's just back on the air and he's just still calling games. I guess they gave him an option if he wanted to do more games for ESPN. He was like, yeah, sure. So I guess he's not fired after all. So that's kind of cool. That's kind of like.

• 1:01:50Speaker 02

  Should have been fired.

• 1:01:51Speaker 00

  I agree. That's kind of the, the Barstool Sports way, which is if you just, if you get fired, just keep showing up. And then eventually you can, you can just continue to work for the company.

• 1:01:59Speaker 02

  Buy the Pardon My Take book.

• 1:02:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:02:01Speaker 02

  We, Hank, you talk about it.

• 1:02:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:02:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. Hank just kept showing up. My other who's back.

• 1:02:05Speaker 02

  Hank's original resume in the Pardon My Book out on August 18.

• 1:02:08Speaker 00

  Yep. My other who's back of the week is, uh, Kendrick Perkins, Big Perk. Back on TV doing his analyst thing. He's a really sharp guy.

• 1:02:18Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:02:19Speaker 00

  Very sharp guy. I've always liked Kendrick Perkins. Uh, Celtic legend, actually.

• 1:02:24Speaker 04

  Definitely.

• 1:02:25Speaker 00

  Perk, so he's a, the one, the one thing that you might say about Perk is he might have, you know, some bias where he will openly root for the Celtics sometimes. He's like, shows them a little too much favor. So he dropped his top five. What?

• 1:02:40Speaker 04

  No one says that.

• 1:02:41Speaker 00

  I'd say it.

• 1:02:42Speaker 02

  He just said it.

• 1:02:43Speaker 04

  Well, you said people, people may say.

• 1:02:44Speaker 00

  I'm a person.

• 1:02:45Speaker 02

  I'll say it too. So that was people.

• 1:02:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, people are saying it.

• 1:02:50Speaker 02

  Uh, but I forget what are we saying?

• 1:02:51Speaker 00

  He, he dropped that he's a little biased.

• 1:02:52Speaker 04

  Oh, he's biased against the Celtics.

• 1:02:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:02:55Speaker 02

  That's most people.

• 1:02:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, most people.

• 1:02:57Speaker 02

  Most people.

• 1:02:58Speaker 00

  Uh, so he dropped his top five list in the East.

• 1:03:00Speaker 04

  They didn't, they, whatever.

• 1:03:01Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:03:01Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:03:02Speaker 00

  Who's, who's, who's back in this, Hank?

• 1:03:05Speaker 02

  It's PFT.

• 1:03:05Speaker 00

  You had cinema.

• 1:03:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, you talked about Spider-Man on a national sports podcast.

• 1:03:11Speaker 00

  We're talking ball.

• 1:03:11Speaker 04

  We talked Spider-Man last week.

• 1:03:14Speaker 00

  Say what you're gonna say, Hank.

• 1:03:16Speaker 04

  Kendrick Perkins used to talk shit about like Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum and then they like didn't invite him to any of the like he's not he's not welcome in the building.

• 1:03:23Speaker 00

  Oh, was he wrong?

• 1:03:24Speaker 02

  So then he's Talk shit or he was he was just he wasn't wrong. He was just early.

• 1:03:29Speaker 04

  He was talking shit.

• 1:03:29Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. Was he talking shit memes?

• 1:03:32Speaker 02

  Memes. What's wrong?

• 1:03:34Speaker 00

  Seizing. No, seizing.

• 1:03:35Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:03:35Speaker 00

  Uh, he was analyzing.

• 1:03:37Speaker 02

  He's analyzing.

• 1:03:37Speaker 00

  He's analyzing.

• 1:03:38Speaker 02

  And he's a good analyst.

• 1:03:39Speaker 00

  He memes.

• 1:03:40Speaker 02

  I thought.

• 1:03:41Speaker 00

  Very good.

• 1:03:41Speaker 02

  Did you see the sound that he made last week? Search Kendrick Perkins sound. I think he he almost died on TV.

• 1:03:48Speaker 04

  I did see.

• 1:03:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, I believe I keep going. We'll play the sound after.

• 1:03:53Speaker 00

  Okay, number one in the East, 76ers. I think that's probably a fair.

• 1:03:57Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:03:58Speaker 00

  Fair team to put at number one. Um, there, you know, I can't think of any other team in the East that would have a claim to that.

• 1:04:03Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 1:04:03Speaker 00

  Number two in the East, the Knicks.

• 1:04:06Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:04:06Speaker 00

  I guess they did play in the finals last year.

• 1:04:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:04:08Speaker 00

  Uh, number three in the East, the Hawks. Number four in the East, the Heat.

• 1:04:15Speaker 00

  Number five in the East, your Washington Wizards.

• 1:04:18Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:04:18Speaker 00

  Top five, top five team in the East.

• 1:04:20Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:04:21Speaker 00

  And I'm just going to completely gloss over the fact that he also had the Hawks at number three.

• 1:04:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:04:25Speaker 00

  Top five because it's detrimental to my case. Um, but yeah, perk goes ball. What can I say?

• 1:04:31Speaker 02

  So the cells weren't on there?

• 1:04:34Speaker 04

  I guess not.

• 1:04:35Speaker 02

  Are you gonna get Steph Curry?

• 1:04:37Speaker 04

  People are saying.

• 1:04:39Speaker 00

  Who?

• 1:04:40Speaker 04

  Uh, John Corrales, although I don't know, like it's it's aggregators and people online like they're all quoting John Corrales. Who's like a real legit journalist that what?

• 1:04:52Speaker 02

  No, we have the perk sound.

• 1:04:53Speaker 04

  I found the sound.

• 1:04:54Speaker 02

  You're listening to the sound.

• 1:04:55Speaker 04

  Sorry, I'm sorry.

• 1:04:56Speaker 02

  He made this sound online television.

• 1:04:57Speaker 04

  I didn't know that my mic was on. The the face that he makes too.

• 1:05:01Speaker 02

  Listen to the sound.

• 1:05:03Speaker 05

  Austin, last year as Jason Tatum was recovering. And so all I'm saying is when you're looking at the way that they want to play. And some of us, and last year as Jason Tatum was recovering.

• 1:05:14Speaker 05

  Last year as Jason Tatum was recovering.

• 1:05:18Speaker 00

  That's that's the the sound that Blake makes when he drinks his water too fast.

• 1:05:24Speaker 02

  Oh, like video game sound.

• 1:05:31Speaker 02

  Like you bonked on the head and smashed brothers.

• 1:05:33Speaker 03

  I think he had to sneeze and he was probably trying to like eat the sneeze.

• 1:05:38Speaker 02

  All right, what were you gonna say?

• 1:05:39Speaker 04

  People, the, the online aggregators were quoting like, oh, the, the Celtics are trying to get Steph Curry. Here's what they're offering per John Crowell, who's like a legit reporter. So when I see that, I'm like, oh, this might be real. His report was basically like, the Celtics could have pieces and here's what they could offer. It wasn't like a report like this was a, a negotiation that's actively happening. They're just like, he's, they're probably calling the Warriors. And if they are calling the Warriors, here's what they might offer. But it's not as legit as the report as I hoped when I saw like.

• 1:06:13Speaker 02

  Got it. It's more like a wishing.

• 1:06:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:06:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:16Speaker 04

  In theory, this could happen.

• 1:06:18Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:06:18Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:06:19Speaker 02

  Right. Okay, uh, my who's back is, uh, weird baseball injuries because Harrison Bader is out for the year. Uh, I think this was finally reported on Friday. He got drunk on his scooter in San Francisco, hit a fire truck, and then the fire truck ran over his foot, which had already been injured. And he's out for the year now.

• 1:06:40Speaker 00

  And I read that he had, like, he's got a long history of having scooter accidents. Like going back to college. This was one of the red flags on.

• 1:06:47Speaker 02

  That's very funny.

• 1:06:48Speaker 00

  On his prospecting is like, hey, you might not want to let him ride scooters because he sucks at it.

• 1:06:53Speaker 04

  How did it come about? He had to admit he was drunk? Like, how do you, how do you get that information?

• 1:06:57Speaker 03

  People saw that he was at bars.

• 1:06:59Speaker 02

  People saw him out like doing a bar crawl, basically, on a scooter. The fact that he hit the fire truck and then the fire truck ran over him is just.

• 1:07:10Speaker 02

  Like, if he just stopped and he hit a fire truck and hurt his foot, I'd be like, oh, well, all right, you know, that happened. The fire truck then ran over him.

• 1:07:19Speaker 03

  Did the fire truck go in like reverse?

• 1:07:21Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 1:07:22Speaker 03

  That's what I don't get. How, because if you hit the back of it.

• 1:07:27Speaker 02

  Maybe it was already going in reverse?

• 1:07:30Speaker 03

  But then I was thinking, don't, don't those big trucks when they go in reverse, don't they make like a big, like a loud, like?

• 1:07:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, they've got sirens too.

• 1:07:37Speaker 03

  Beeping, yeah, beeping noise.

• 1:07:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, maybe he hit the side of it.

• 1:07:40Speaker 03

  That, that, but it says he hit the back.

• 1:07:42Speaker 02

  I don't know, but it's very funny.

• 1:07:44Speaker 00

  I need to see footage.

• 1:07:45Speaker 03

  The report is he, he went into the back of a fire truck and that fire truck then ran over his injured foot.

• 1:07:53Speaker 03

  Which is an insane sentence.

• 1:07:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, witnesses are saying that he was drinking at various points during the night before the scooter accident.

• 1:08:00Speaker 02

  Um, and then also Kevin Durant's back because, did you guys see how he phr- phrased his, uh, quote about the, the Sixers? It was perfect. It was perfect. So LeBron goes to the Sixers, ring chasing allegations, super team allegations. You would think that Kevin Durant has every right to be like, hey, it's bullshit because they said this about me. And now they're not saying it about LeBron, but then the reaction would be, oh, Kevin Durant, you're a pussy. Like, you know, you, you, you went to the team that beat you, everything. So he phrases perfectly. He said, when asked about LeBron James going to the 76ers, he says, the last time they put three 20-point scorers on a team,

• 1:08:40Speaker 02

  they said it was unfair, which was the Warriors team I was on. They've got four 25-point scorers on this team. So hell yeah, I think they're going to be a contender. It's a perfect way to end it to give like, it wasn't a diss, it was a compliment. But yeah, he probably has a right to be a little upset.

• 1:09:01Speaker 03

  I think it's different.

• 1:09:02Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:09:03Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:09:05Speaker 03

  Because the Warriors are just, the Sixers haven't won in 40 years.

• 1:09:08Speaker 02

  I mean, you guys have a super team.

• 1:09:10Speaker 00

  You guys have a super team.

• 1:09:10Speaker 03

  The Warriors just beat him.

• 1:09:12Speaker 02

  You guys have a super team.

• 1:09:13Speaker 03

  That's good.

• 1:09:13Speaker 02

  See, you just did the thing that I would said that the people would do.

• 1:09:15Speaker 03

  But the Warriors had just won.

• 1:09:17Speaker 02

  You guys are super team.

• 1:09:18Speaker 03

  The Warriors had just won.

• 1:09:19Speaker 02

  Super team.

• 1:09:20Speaker 03

  They had won without him and then they added him. So that, the Sixers haven't won shit.

• 1:09:25Speaker 02

  Namdi Asomog again.

• 1:09:27Speaker 00

  You got, yeah.

• 1:09:28Speaker 03

  You're, you're saying that.

• 1:09:29Speaker 00

  Between Jalen Brown, LeBron.

• 1:09:33Speaker 03

  You guys are going to be so sick when they win. Oh.

• 1:09:37Speaker 00

  The Warriors.

• 1:09:38Speaker 02

  Hank, what was that face?

• 1:09:39Speaker 03

  Well, cause Hank's gonna be the most.

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  What was that face?

• 1:09:41Speaker 00

  They're not gonna win.

• 1:09:42Speaker 04

  There's a lot, there's a long way to go before that happens.

• 1:09:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:46Speaker 00

  It's true. I mean, Perk did have him number one. Super team.

• 1:09:51Speaker 02

  It's crazy, Max, that you wouldn't say, you're saying the Dodgers have won the World Series, but you won't say the Sixers. Like, they're the same team.

• 1:09:58Speaker 04

  So true.

• 1:09:58Speaker 03

  Baseball's completely.

• 1:10:00Speaker 02

  They're the same team.

• 1:10:01Speaker 03

  Baseball's completely.

• 1:10:02Speaker 02

  You won't even do championship or bust.

• 1:10:04Speaker 03

  The Dodgers have won the past two years. Sixers haven't won anything.

• 1:10:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, they got LeBron and Jalen Brown. All right, Zach, finish this off.

• 1:10:09Speaker 03

  Shout out Hank.

• 1:10:11Speaker 00

  My Who's Back of the Week this week's gonna be J.J. Watt, cause J.J. Watt made his kid development debut. He went, uh, Burnley FC, dropped some new kids.

• 1:10:19Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:10:21Speaker 00

  Took him two years, which that's a commendable feat, uh, but two years and somehow the lines don't exactly line up, boys.

• 1:10:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:29Speaker 00

  On the shoulders, yeah.

• 1:10:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:31Speaker 04

  You gotta think, though, like, they, he designed them for soccer players that aren't, don't have the shoulders and traps that he has.

• 1:10:37Speaker 02

  Look, there's a guy right there.

• 1:10:38Speaker 00

  Looks like a pretty standard look.

• 1:10:40Speaker 04

  Trying to help him out.

• 1:10:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:41Speaker 00

  I'll say this.

• 1:10:42Speaker 02

  I think it's a fashion choice.

• 1:10:43Speaker 00

  It's a nice cream.

• 1:10:44Speaker 03

  Terrible choice. Everything else about the jersey is nice.

• 1:10:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, the cream, it's a good cream.

• 1:10:49Speaker 03

  It's gotta connect.

• 1:10:52Speaker 00

  You know what? I bet if they wanted to, they could go back and fix that.

• 1:10:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, probably. Probably wouldn't cost a lot.

• 1:10:59Speaker 00

  Just a full remake?

• 1:11:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, they gotta connect them.

• 1:11:02Speaker 03

  It looks so weird.

• 1:11:04Speaker 02

  They gotta connect them.

• 1:11:05Speaker 00

  I thought you got to connect week one.

• 1:11:06Speaker 02

  They're very attractive jerseys, except you gotta connect them.

• 1:11:09Speaker 03

  They're great jerseys other than that.

• 1:11:11Speaker 00

  Are they good jerseys or is he just a hot dude?

• 1:11:14Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:11:14Speaker 00

  Both, fair, fair, both.

• 1:11:16Speaker 04

  This guy said, what'd you do for the other 729 days, 23 hours and 40 minutes?

• 1:11:21Speaker 02

  Ouch.

• 1:11:22Speaker 04

  That's not nice.

• 1:11:22Speaker 00

  Oh, design of the kit?

• 1:11:24Speaker 02

  Ouch. Did you guys see, by the way, the one last Who's Back, Kyle Whittingham? I'd be nervous if I were a Michigan fan. Did you see his quote? He said, uh, "I just think a rivalry can be intense and emotional without the hatred factor. I don't think there's any place for that personally." Uh, dude.

• 1:11:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, good luck.

• 1:11:43Speaker 02

  You gotta fucking hate Ohio State. You don't think Ryan Day hates Michigan? He hates him. That's a crazy quote. You can't, you gotta have the hatred.

• 1:11:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:52Speaker 02

  That's too nice. That's too nice for the rivalry. You gotta have the hatred. Okay, um, let's get to our interviews. We've got Dan Lanning, Matt Rule, and then we're gonna do our Mount Rushmore on the other side of both coaches.

• 1:12:06Speaker 00

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• 1:12:44Speaker 02

  Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is Oregon head coach, Dan Lanning. Coach, good to finally have you on. I know we only have you for a few minutes because it's Big Ten Media Day and you're getting pulled in a million directions. But we've wanted to have you on for a long time. So it's good to finally see you. I'll start with an easy one. Championship or bust this year?

• 1:13:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, just easy question.

• 1:13:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, easy, easy.

• 1:13:08Speaker 00

  Take care of business, right? What's in front of us? We'll see what if it's no, I wouldn't say that. I would say, uh, be the best version of us.

• 1:13:14Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:13:15Speaker 00

  Do you feel like that's where I'm sitting right now?

• 1:13:16Speaker 02

  I think yes. I listen, you're a fantastic head coach. I'm not, it's not, it's different than a hot seat. We've had coaches sitting here and we've blatantly said, hey, you're on the hot seat. You're not on the hot seat. You're far from the hot seat. But it feels like this year you guys have a roster.

• 1:13:29Speaker 00

  We got a good team.

• 1:13:30Speaker 02

  I'm ready to say championship or bust.

• 1:13:32Speaker 00

  That's.

• 1:13:32Speaker 02

  Are you cool with that?

• 1:13:33Speaker 00

  I'm comfortable. Please.

• 1:13:34Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:13:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:35Speaker 02

  You're comfortable with it.

• 1:13:35Speaker 00

  You're comfortable. I'm comfortable with you saying that.

• 1:13:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:37Speaker 00

  You want to be the best, the best version of you? Is that what you said? Absolutely. I want to be the best team we can possibly be. So that'll be championship. Well, there's things you can't predict, right? There's things that are going to happen within a season. I think every year, you know, the ball bounces a certain way, a player gets injured, things might happen. Um, but I do think we have a team that's really capable for sure.

• 1:13:54Speaker 02

  I actually, I so I was listening to an interview that you were doing and, and I had a question about it because you, you wrote on a, was it a mirror, like your goals?

• 1:14:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, I always put my goals on the mirror.

• 1:14:03Speaker 02

  And one of your goals was to be the best, uh, father on the team, best husband on the team. Is that an analytical thing you guys break down? Like, you guys all sit around and like, who was a good dad this year?

• 1:14:13Speaker 00

  100%.

• 1:14:14Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:14:14Speaker 00

  No, that was back when I was a GA at, uh, at Arizona State. It was more of like a just competitive goal for myself because. I could feel that that wasn't necessarily the internal focus. You know, you're competing to get a job at that point.

• 1:14:26Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:14:27Speaker 00

  I'm making 1,200 bucks a month. I'm on EBT. I'm riding a bike to work. It's like, hey,

• 1:14:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:31Speaker 00

  don't forget to be a dad.

• 1:14:32Speaker 02

  Right, right. And you also took off. You had NFL coach on there and you took it off.

• 1:14:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:14:37Speaker 02

  So that's off.

• 1:14:38Speaker 00

  Not on there anymore.

• 1:14:39Speaker 02

  Could it get back on there?

• 1:14:40Speaker 00

  No, I don't think so. You know, I'm in a different place in my life.

• 1:14:43Speaker 02

  I like that. I like that.

• 1:14:44Speaker 00

  I'm in a different place in my life.

• 1:14:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:45Speaker 00

  I, I do think that Oregon, it could be one of those jobs where, and you always look for the next thing. I think that's something, it's larger than football coaches. It's, it's everywhere in life, but I feel like Oregon could be one of those jobs that if you decide, if you commit to Oregon, that would be a great place to spend your entire career. It's unbelievable. And look back later and be like, that's, I was just an Oregon guy. You know, I don't know how much time you guys have got to spend. Have you spent any time in Eugene?

• 1:15:06Speaker 02

  I haven't been. I really, wait, it's on my bucket list. I know.

• 1:15:08Speaker 00

  To have you, but there, there's things you don't real, I think outside looking in, you're like, oh, the jerseys, the helmets, the, the cool, the cool, the topography of the, the, the land. I mean, the coast, I just got, got off the coast in, in Oregon, the mountains. It's just, it's a really special place. And then it's a fan base that absolutely loves their team. So getting to spend time there, see the investment they have, it, it makes it special.

• 1:15:31Speaker 02

  Do you ever get in the zone when you're giving a pregame speech? Because I don't know if you know this, but your pregame speeches go viral pretty much every year. I don't know how someone keeps, you know, taping those. You gotta, you gotta find the leak in your locker room. Cause they just go out there every year. But you, you do motivate better than I think a lot of guys out there. And I, I watch them and I'm like, fuck, this guy's awesome. So do you get in a zone where you're like, oh, I feel it now. I, I'm in a zone specifically for this speech.

• 1:15:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think you're just trying to do your job in the moment. And, and I, I think motivation's overrated. You've probably heard me say it. Like, these guys got to go out and play the game, but ultimately as a coach, you're sitting there saying, okay, what can I say in this moment that's going to allow these guys to perform? Uh, there's been a couple of games that I thought I gave really good pregame speeches. It didn't work. So that's not what it's about.

• 1:16:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:16Speaker 00

  But it's, it's certainly fun to, to say.

• 1:16:18Speaker 06

  Okay, I'm gonna do the best I can to get these guys ready to go play.

• 1:16:20Speaker 02

  Do you ever watch back your own tape and get motivated by yourself?

• 1:16:23Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:16:24Speaker 02

  I would do that all the time.

• 1:16:25Speaker 06

  Really?

• 1:16:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'd be like, look how awesome I looked.

• 1:16:27Speaker 06

  Do you go back and watch your podcast?

• 1:16:29Speaker 02

  No, actually I don't.

• 1:16:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's the worst thing.

• 1:16:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, fuck.

• 1:16:32Speaker 06

  Oh, so you're a-

• 1:16:32Speaker 02

  You got me there.

• 1:16:33Speaker 00

  It's the worst thing.

• 1:16:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, I hate the sound of my own voice.

• 1:16:36Speaker 00

  But if I were you, I mean, you're also very creative with some of the ways that you choose to motivate your players. Like, I remember, I don't know how you came up with this one, but you decided to just smash a Washington helmet with a baseball bat.

• 1:16:47Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:16:48Speaker 00

  Um, that's really creative.

• 1:16:50Speaker 02

  It's so creative.

• 1:16:51Speaker 00

  You got, you got your right and left brain going.

• 1:16:53Speaker 06

  We had not been playing great in the second half of games. We'd struggled. I called Coach Bellotti, who was, you know, Hall of Fame coach at Oregon. And I was like, hey, you got any ideas to come out of the second half? And I feel like we're making the corrections we need to make. He goes, Dan, sometimes I would just, you know, smash shit. I said, alright.

• 1:17:09Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 1:17:09Speaker 06

  That's where it started, you know? You just dig a little deeper and try to find something and we've, and, uh, I didn't actually hit the helmet, you know, I, I, our strength coach, Wilson Love, did it with a big sledgehammer.

• 1:17:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17:19Speaker 06

  But now that helmet's sitting at the house. Turned out to be good.

• 1:17:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, you smash it up.

• 1:17:22Speaker 06

  It worked.

• 1:17:23Speaker 00

  You smash it up.

• 1:17:23Speaker 06

  It's cool when it works.

• 1:17:24Speaker 00

  Pretty good. What was it like at Georgia? Well, like, who was the one that was a good cop? And who was the one that was bad cop?

• 1:17:31Speaker 06

  Like between?

• 1:17:32Speaker 00

  Between you and Kirby.

• 1:17:33Speaker 06

  Oh, man, every-

• 1:17:33Speaker 00

  Cause he's a pregame speech guy, too.

• 1:17:35Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, but he's always, he's always bad cop. Everybody else is good cop around Coach Smart. No, he's a, honestly, he has an unbelievable temperament. I always felt like whenever things were rough and it wasn't going smooth, you know, you felt, you know, the calm in the storm a lot of time, especially in front of the players, right? Not necessarily always. And when you thought you might be doing really well, it was, you know, it was chaos. It was, it was bad cop. So I think he does, he understands people. He can really, uh, ride high and low, uh, and does a good job playing off of it.

• 1:18:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, we could do like real quick, cause we don't have that much time, but I am fascinated to hear about the, uh, the first job that you got and, and how you did that drive across the country.

• 1:18:13Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:18:13Speaker 00

  Um, how long is it? Was it, you were, you were going to be-

• 1:18:16Speaker 06

  Around 13 hours.

• 1:18:16Speaker 00

  With Todd Graham, right, at, at Pitt?

• 1:18:18Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah. So I was a high school coach at Park Hill South, um, was kind of waiting for an opportunity. I ended up- Meeting with Keith Patterson, but when I first got to Pitt, nobody was there. I was waiting in the lobby and Eric Thatcher's the first guy I met. He's actually a scout now for the 49ers and he said, hey, the coaches are gone. So I stayed the night, uh, met with him the next day. They said, hey, we got a job for you for 800 bucks a month.

• 1:18:40Speaker 06

  My wife was pregnant at the time. We had a one year old, didn't tell him I had a house, had a job. So it, it, you know, it didn't make a lot of sense, but it made a lot, it's made a lot of sense since.

• 1:18:48Speaker 00

  So when you, when you decided to get in the car and drive, uh, you didn't know if coach was going to be, it was unannounced?

• 1:18:53Speaker 06

  Yeah. So I'd gotten a call around Christmas saying, hey, we might have a job for you. We'll call you after signing day and they, they, I, I didn't get a phone call. And this is the closest I'd ever been to getting a division one job.

• 1:19:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:19:03Speaker 06

  So I said, well, I guess, I guess I gotta just drive there.

• 1:19:05Speaker 00

  I'm gonna show up.

• 1:19:06Speaker 06

  So I went and did, I, I taught elementary PE. So I did elementary PE that day. I did after school weights and then I drove through the night and drank a lot of Mountain Dew and listened to some crazy music and

• 1:19:15Speaker 00

  That's awesome.

• 1:19:16Speaker 06

  Changed into a suit in the gas station run before I got there.

• 1:19:18Speaker 00

  Do you remember what you were listening to on the way? That's a big factor in the overnight.

• 1:19:21Speaker 06

  Yeah, a little bit of anything and everything. I, you know, I, I, it feels like in 2011, were you still listening to burnt CDs? Is that still then or?

• 1:19:28Speaker 00

  That might have been.

• 1:19:29Speaker 02

  Probably right at the tail end.

• 1:19:30Speaker 00

  It depends how old the car was.

• 1:19:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, because iPhones were, I feel like I didn't have a, maybe I did have it up my first iPhone then. Yeah.

• 1:19:36Speaker 06

  It's hard to say.

• 1:19:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:19:37Speaker 06

  It's all kind of a blur.

• 1:19:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:39Speaker 06

  I remember the Mountain Dew. I remember, you know, when you're really tired driving and you roll the window down, you're like,

• 1:19:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, like a dog.

• 1:19:44Speaker 06

  Slap yourself a little. Because I drove through the night. It was one of those moments, but, um, yeah, I don't really remember the music. I remember some of the phone, phone conversations on the way.

• 1:19:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:19:51Speaker 06

  People telling you like, what are you doing?

• 1:19:53Speaker 00

  Turn around.

• 1:19:54Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:19:54Speaker 02

  It's an awesome story and it's an incredible rise that you've had. Was there another moment after Pitt? Cause I think you went what Pitt, then ASU and Sam Hoot, like all over the place. Was there another moment where you're like, is this gonna work out? Like, am I, especially with kids like?

• 1:20:08Speaker 06

  You start to wonder after a while, right? So, cause we went, we went Pitt, Arizona State, Sam Houston State, and then I have one more year at a GA. And this is probably one of the best decisions I ever made, but I had to go interview. I interviewed at, at Alabama to be a GA there. It was the last year. This time there was a timeframe of like how long you get to be a graduate assistant. Um, and I got the opportunity to GA with Nick Saban on that staff. You had Kirby Smart, Mario Cristobal, Mel Tucker, Billy Napier, Lane Kiffin. We win a national championship. It was probably the most I ever learned in football. You know, that year specifically of like, okay, here's where I gotta go and get to. And then luckily enough, after that, was able to join Mike Norvell at Memphis, was there two years, and then Georgia for four before coming here.

• 1:20:51Speaker 02

  That's awesome.

• 1:20:52Speaker 00

  So this offseason has got to be pretty interesting for you because you had two new coordinators. And then I don't know what the conversations were like behind the scenes. You had a quarterback that some were saying could go top five in the NFL draft this year. And with NIL, it's a little bit different now because there's an option. They can go back to school and still make some money that way. You as a coach, do you have a conversation with them? Do you say, hey, here's what we can do for you next year? Or because I know in the back of your head, it's also probably, you know, pretty important for your guys to go on to the next level, get paid, have success. That's good for the program, too. So what were those conversations like this offseason?

• 1:21:25Speaker 06

  Yeah, you try to be a sounding board and you try not to be selfish, right? But you've become so close to these players that you want them to make the best decision for them. There's guys that come into my office and, you know, Ken Shadique this past year, I'm like, Ken, you gotta go to the NFL. You're gonna be a first round pick. It's a little different at quarterback. So that conversation was a little different for Dante, just because of experience of quarterbacks that leave early and what that looks like. But it was really just a great conversation. It's like, whatever you decide, I want to be a part of it and be there for you. And then, yeah, of course, deep down, you're like, I hope I get a chance to coach this guy one more time because it could be special.

• 1:21:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. And your coordinators, how'd you, so you promoted from within, right?

• 1:22:01Speaker 02

  We're Will Stein guys, by the way.

• 1:22:03Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:22:04Speaker 02

  He just, he basically was like,

• 1:22:05Speaker 06

  Were you Will Stein UTSA guy?

• 1:22:10Speaker 02

  It's literally like a month ago. Yeah, we hosted the Kentucky Sports Radio once a year for our friend Matt Jones. And we had him call in and he's like, hey, I've been a listener since like day one. And we're like, well, if you like us, we like you. So that's it.

• 1:22:22Speaker 06

  That's all it takes.

• 1:22:24Speaker 02

  He could suck as a coach and we'll be like, no, that guy's awesome.

• 1:22:27Speaker 06

  We loved Nathaniel Hackett for 14 weeks. Because he was a fan of ours.

• 1:22:31Speaker 00

  But he still likes the show.

• 1:22:32Speaker 02

  No, Nathaniel Hackett just came on the show. There's a difference. Liking the show is lifetime. Coming on the show, you get like,

• 1:22:38Speaker 06

  A year.

• 1:22:38Speaker 02

  You get like a comedy of errors on the football field before we start to call you out. So yeah, you've got at least a year.

• 1:22:45Speaker 06

  Some nice things.

• 1:22:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:46Speaker 06

  Heard you say some other things, but you guys have been pretty good.

• 1:22:49Speaker 02

  We're.

• 1:22:49Speaker 06

  I love how you shoot it straight.

• 1:22:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:50Speaker 06

  Right?

• 1:22:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:51Speaker 06

  Be a fun seat to sit in.

• 1:22:52Speaker 02

  All right. So, so shooting it straight, what, uh, what, what were you on after the Penn State game?

• 1:22:57Speaker 06

  Great question.

• 1:23:00Speaker 06

  I like Zen.

• 1:23:02Speaker 06

  Uh, I put, I, I really don't talk about it though. So, so here we are. You broke me down. I'm vulnerable.

• 1:23:07Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:23:09Speaker 06

  But no, I, I, I stick them in my pocket and, uh, I ran out and I, and so our, our, our guy got me some more and I, I had more, but honestly it's just juice, man. You've been a.

• 1:23:17Speaker 02

  It was awesome. Yeah. It was great.

• 1:23:19Speaker 06

  Juice, but it's, you know, it's funny when your son has to be like that. Everybody at school says.

• 1:23:23Speaker 02

  You're on drugs. Yeah. No, I, I.

• 1:23:26Speaker 06

  I just had juice, man. It's fun to be a part of. That environment was wild.

• 1:23:29Speaker 02

  Yeah. Like we, we joked about it, but like at the end of the day, I would much rather have that than like a coach have a massive, massive win and then come off and be like, yeah, we didn't play well. Like we're just trying to get to next week. It's like that those, you gotta celebrate those moments.

• 1:23:42Speaker 06

  There was a moment in that game and I know that Penn State season didn't turn out the way that.

• 1:23:45Speaker 02

  Oh, no, you killed him. You killed James Franklin.

• 1:23:47Speaker 06

  Well, we didn't.

• 1:23:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:49Speaker 06

  You know, it didn't work out after that, but in that game, there was a moment in that game where I said, Hey, if we, if we win this game or lose this game, I'm really proud of our play. Like they put everything they had and I felt like coaches did too. Like I was exhausted after that game.

• 1:24:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:01Speaker 06

  And, uh, I didn't play a snap.

• 1:24:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:03Speaker 06

  So it was just one of those games where you felt like you gave it all and it was exciting to be a part of.

• 1:24:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I like, I like the human emotion.

• 1:24:08Speaker 06

  High on life, man.

• 1:24:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. I, I like that you had that type of, uh, enthusiasm. It was fun to watch.

• 1:24:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. There was, uh, I, I don't know if you can take all the credit for winning that game because I think our guys might've had a little hand in that too. Our guy Max give a, a pump up speech to the crowd.

• 1:24:22Speaker 06

  I heard.

• 1:24:22Speaker 00

  He recorded, he recorded a video.

• 1:24:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:24Speaker 00

  He did. He led the we are chant that day and it was so bad that Penn State football was like, James Franklin was like, I can't work here anymore.

• 1:24:31Speaker 06

  It's over.

• 1:24:32Speaker 00

  Yeah. It was, it was that bad.

• 1:24:33Speaker 06

  Thanks, Max. I appreciate it.

• 1:24:35Speaker 00

  It was pretty terrible stuff.

• 1:24:36Speaker 06

  Did you go to a couple of our other games?

• 1:24:38Speaker 02

  This year. Yeah, you'll get them. We'll get them to any game you want. Is there a part of you that now this is a loser question? And I apologize in advance, but is there any part of you that's like, hey? Last two years didn't go well, but we did lose the national champion. So like, we know where like we're, we're getting to these games where it's like, we're on this stage. We just got to finish these games. You lost Indiana, you lost to Michigan. It's like, you're there or, or, uh, Ohio State, Ohio State. I forgot it was Michigan, Ohio State, then Indiana. Big 10 just wins so many titles now. It's like, I, you lose track, you know what I mean? As a, as a conference, we just keep winning. Uh, but are you, is there any part of you? That is like, we're, we're there. We're, we just got to fucking get one over like.

• 1:25:17Speaker 00

  Well, I think a part of you recognizes what we've been able to accomplish the last few years is, is, um, certainly special. We've had a really good team the last few years, but the competitor in you wants to go, you know, take care of business. And there's only one team that gets to be happy at the end of the year. It hasn't been us yet. So,

• 1:25:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:25:31Speaker 00

  Uh, that motivates you 100%.

• 1:25:33Speaker 02

  I guess thinking now to the Indiana game, that game was over so fucking fast.

• 1:25:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. Turnovers, start off rough, you know, pick six. It was not, that wasn't a fun one to be a part of, but, uh, I know a lot of people would probably switch places with us and love to be at that game.

• 1:25:46Speaker 02

  Yeah. All right. We know, I, we know you got to run in a second.

• 1:25:48Speaker 00

  Not me. I, I went to JMU. I'm glad that we lost to you. I did not want to be a part of that game.

• 1:25:52Speaker 02

  Good second half.

• 1:25:53Speaker 00

  Great second half. Great. Thank you. I appreciate that. Kudos.

• 1:25:57Speaker 02

  Incredible second half.

• 1:25:58Speaker 00

  Yeah. It was the second half of the year. I've been telling people, uh, after that game was over, everyone was like, oh, that's garbage time shit. And I was like, actually, no, you did not want Jamie to score on that final drive.

• 1:26:08Speaker 02

  Actually, both of our teams kind of pieced up Oregon because the Badgers scored a touchdown against you and that was, we didn't score touchdowns last year.

• 1:26:15Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:26:15Speaker 02

  So, yeah.

• 1:26:16Speaker 00

  What do you, are you guys doing it this year? Or what have you decided?

• 1:26:18Speaker 02

  We're going to try to score touchdowns. Yeah. We're, we're trying to slowly, you got to, you know, as a coach, you can't just, you can't overload the guys right away. So maybe like there will do an install of the touchdown plays at some point. Um, all right, Zach, Roback question, R H O P A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q's, P's, Polo's, Hootie's, Jogger Shorts, Roback.com. Go ahead, Zach. We're doing it, Coach. I, uh, did a quick question for you. Uh, whether it's the, uh, kind of freshman dinners at the house or taking the entire team to the beach.

• 1:26:47Speaker 06

  I was curious if you could maybe speak to the importance of like building that relationship with the team, not just on the field, but also off the field that it seems that you do so well. Yeah, I think everybody in, right now in college football is trying to act like the only thing that matters is transaction. I think still it's transformation, you know, when it comes to relationships with your players. We've been really lucky, um, the last few years that we haven't lost starters in the transfer portal. You know, I think we're going into year five now and we've been able to keep the, the good players on our team. And I think a lot of it goes to the relationship that exists outside of that. And then just, you know, football's huge, right? But you, you know, the things that I've experienced in my, for my family, um, you know, moments in life make you recognize that football's a piece of the puzzle. It's not the only piece of the puzzle. So for me, I want our players to always recognize that, uh, and get to enjoy it. Maybe, we,

• 1:27:29Speaker 06

  we don't smell the roses much, right? That's not, uh, we're not sitting there enjoying the journey. Um, but you gotta enjoy, get to, who you get to do the journey with. And we want to create those moments for them.

• 1:27:38Speaker 02

  Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention, your tattoos are awesome.

• 1:27:41Speaker 06

  Yeah?

• 1:27:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:27:42Speaker 06

  Think about getting some more.

• 1:27:43Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:27:43Speaker 00

  What do you think about?

• 1:27:44Speaker 06

  Got some that I'll show you guys once.

• 1:27:45Speaker 02

  You, well, you kind of like, you, you're a shocking tattoo guy, where it's like, well, no, it's like, cause you, you see a coach, they always have, you know, long sleeves on, suit on. Yeah. So like, when I saw it, I was like, holy shit. Those are some tats.

• 1:27:57Speaker 00

  It's like KD, Kevin Durant. Yeah. He's got like, he takes the jersey off, just tatted up. You should get barbed wire.

• 1:28:03Speaker 06

  Barbed wire, do you think that'd go a long way?

• 1:28:04Speaker 00

  I think we're bringing back tribal.

• 1:28:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, that would be cool.

• 1:28:07Speaker 00

  All right. So thi- this is how you guys beat Penn State. Okay?

• 1:28:11Speaker 06

  This was, this is, oh, I think I saw this.

• 1:28:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. You saw it. It's, Max, you have to listen. I want to warn you. You give some pretty inspiring speeches.

• 1:28:19Speaker 06

  Not this good.

• 1:28:20Speaker 00

  You're gonna want to run directly through that wall afterwards.

• 1:28:22Speaker 06

  All right, here we go.

• 1:28:24Speaker 00

  Max, Max, shut up. Shut up, Max. Max, shut up. We're doing an interview.

• 1:28:28Speaker 06

  Oh, so it didn't go live?

• 1:28:29Speaker 00

  No, it did. For the locker room. They put it in the locker.

• 1:28:31Speaker 06

  What's up, Happy Valley? It's Hank and Max here from Pardon My Take. Today's the day. Today's the day that we once again remind America who has the best stadium atmosphere in college football. So we're gonna need everyone to get loud. We're gonna need everyone to get wild. We're gonna need everyone to get unruly. All right, now let me hear it from all 106,000 of you in the seats. We are. We are.

• 1:28:58Speaker 02

  How intimidating was that to hear that live?

• 1:29:06Speaker 06

  It was. Was it? They never put it, they never played it?

• 1:29:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, they did, they did. So you guys had an advantage there because that was, that was some of the worst stuff ever.

• 1:29:15Speaker 06

  We had that in our corner. That was a fun environment. That's part of what makes the Big Ten so special.

• 1:29:19Speaker 00

  It was great.

• 1:29:20Speaker 06

  Yeah, getting to play in that, in that game, it was a lot of fun.

• 1:29:23Speaker 02

  Last, last question. Is there one jersey combo that you're like, we, we can't lose in these, like, we know?

• 1:29:28Speaker 06

  I haven't, no. You gotta think about that.

• 1:29:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:29:31Speaker 06

  Have it, yeah.

• 1:29:32Speaker 02

  Wouldn't have to wear it every game. Cause you guys have, no, no, no, but like the big game.

• 1:29:36Speaker 06

  If I knew that and thought about that.

• 1:29:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, the big game, like, these are the special, like, almost like Batman's armor.

• 1:29:40Speaker 06

  We were like a commemorative one to Phil and Bill Bowerman's relationship last year against Oregon State, that that one certainly meant a lot.

• 1:29:47Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:29:48Speaker 06

  We've done some cancer awareness ones that I'm a big fan of. In fact, I'm rocking Ollie's shoes right now. Ollie made these shoes at Dornbecker Hospital. So that the, the money made off of these shoes go back to the, the children's hospitals.

• 1:29:59Speaker 02

  That's awesome.

• 1:30:00Speaker 06

  This guy wants to be a cook, so you see it's got like the spatula.

• 1:30:02Speaker 02

  Oh, that's sick.

• 1:30:03Speaker 06

  It's got like recipe food on the side, so.

• 1:30:06Speaker 02

  How many pairs of shoes do you have?

• 1:30:07Speaker 06

  More than I ever in my life.

• 1:30:10Speaker 02

  What size are you?

• 1:30:11Speaker 06

  Thirteen.

• 1:30:11Speaker 02

  Shit.

• 1:30:12Speaker 06

  What, what are you?

• 1:30:13Speaker 02

  Twelve. I would have, I would have, I would have been hitting you up for some shoes.

• 1:30:16Speaker 06

  Yeah, would have worked.

• 1:30:17Speaker 02

  I got the.

• 1:30:17Speaker 06

  What are you wearing? What are the Z? Oh, New Balance.

• 1:30:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, I got the, I got the Grateful Dead ones. That was actually, I'm a big Deadhead. It was actually unfair. You guys played that game against my alma mater in Wisconsin, so that was.

• 1:30:27Speaker 06

  That was fun. That's one of my favorite gear. And I honestly, I mean, I like the Dead, but not, I think you're a bigger Deadhead.

• 1:30:33Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, you are a drug guy. We saw you at Penn State.

• 1:30:36Speaker 06

  No, no, no. Is that what that means?

• 1:30:38Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 1:30:38Speaker 06

  So are you, oh.

• 1:30:40Speaker 02

  No, dude, we don't do drugs.

• 1:30:41Speaker 00

  Is there, is there one, is there one uniform combo where you guys can't run the football? Cause I do see some Oregon football uniforms. I'm like, a little candy ass.

• 1:30:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, be careful.

• 1:30:50Speaker 00

  But they're not gonna be able to run the football.

• 1:30:52Speaker 06

  If you see that, come out.

• 1:30:53Speaker 02

  I'll let you know.

• 1:30:53Speaker 06

  Let me know.

• 1:30:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, there are some candy ass.

• 1:30:56Speaker 06

  Let me know. When you see it, I need a message.

• 1:30:59Speaker 00

  They're all fast, but there's, there's a fine line between.

• 1:31:02Speaker 06

  Fast guys holding the football.

• 1:31:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, but there's, there's one that you get pushed around.

• 1:31:06Speaker 06

  Yeah, so you're thinking maybe alternate uniform, big guys wear one uni, fast guys wear fast unis.

• 1:31:11Speaker 02

  Love it. All right, you do actually have to go. We've, we've, we've gone as long as possible. Thank you so much, Coach.

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  Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is head coach from Nebraska, Matt Ruhl. Coach, good to see you. How are you feeling about the Cornhusker? Let's start an easy one. The tide's turning. Are we feeling like this is the year that everything kind of takes that big step forward you've been looking for?

• 1:32:34Speaker 06

  I think so. You know, we spent three years, you know, we won, I think we won five games our first year in the conference, six games the second year, won the bowl game, seven games last year. And, you know, this is the first group of guys I've had for four years. Now, college football's changed. They're not all those guys, but I brought, I brought two guys here to Media Day who've been there since before I got there. And so, I think they kind of know what to expect. Like, they know what the Big Ten's about. They know the teams we're playing. We have a great schedule, a tough schedule, but a chance for us to show what we can do. So, I'll be honest with you, I'm excited about this group.

• 1:33:06Speaker 02

  So, because you are incredible at the turnaround. Like, the Temple was one of the best jobs that anyone's ever done in terms of turning a team around. Baylor, same thing. Do you see some of the things that you started to see at Temple and Baylor with Nebraska? Where you're like, okay, these are the signs that I know things are going in the right direction?

• 1:33:25Speaker 06

  Yeah, you know, I probably get, sometimes I get a little too much credit for what happened there. Like, you know, you, you win in football with good players and good coaches, right? And so it took us a couple of years at each of those two places. Like my first year at Baylor, we were one and 11. And there was no portal back then, like those kids, those are the same kids that went 11 and one in the regular season two years later. But it was just, you know, all pro players like Jalen Petrie and Terrell Bernard and those guys just growing up. And so I feel that way. I think we went into last year and everyone was like, year three, year three, Coach Will does it in year three. And we were off to a pretty, we were six and two, we were kind of still relevant. And down the stretch, we just, you know, we didn't play well enough. But I see the guys, you know, bigger, faster, stronger, but more importantly, like, you know, you got to expect to win. Like you can't, you can't walk into a fistfight hoping to win. You better, you better expect to win.

• 1:34:10Speaker 06

  And so I see some grown men now that are like, all right, we, we know what we have to do. And I mean, I'd, I'd be, I'd be, I'd be really disappointed if we weren't that type of team that in the middle of the year, the coach is like, damn, we got to play them this week.

• 1:34:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:34:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:34:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:34:23Speaker 00

  Coach, I'm, I'm only going to ask you questions that were asked to you by Will Compton, former linebacker. What's your philosophy on being a man?

• 1:34:31Speaker 06

  What's your philosophy on being a man?

• 1:34:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:34:34Speaker 02

  He asked that?

• 1:34:35Speaker 00

  Manliness.

• 1:34:36Speaker 02

  What a, Will's projecting a little bit.

• 1:34:39Speaker 06

  I think the true definition of man, like we, we, we try to throughout the course of our football program, we try to teach guys how to be a man, right? Like, and I think it's like, sometimes it's simple things like just being on time and being respectful. I, I really think a true, a true man though, when he walks into a place, like the place is better because he's there, right? Like you make every place better, you make every person there that's maybe weaker than you or needs help. You make them feel a little safer, like, you know, you just leave places better than you found them. And so I think to be a man, you, you have to be a tough, you have to be an alpha, but you also have to be willing to sacrifice for those who need it. So being tough enough to do what's needed and, and being a savage when you have to, but being caring and loving and taking care of the people that, that, that depend on you. I think that's the ultimate.

• 1:35:19Speaker 06

  I'm proud of Will for his, for the dad's podcast, you know, I, I've enjoyed watching that and following that. I think that's, you know, that, that's what being a man is, man. Being funny, being tough, having a great time with your friends and then turn around and also being a good dad.

• 1:35:32Speaker 02

  And making sure you podcast about it and tell everyone that you're a good dad. That's a very important piece.

• 1:35:37Speaker 06

  You know, I never thought about that.

• 1:35:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, yeah.

• 1:35:39Speaker 06

  We should start a podcast called Being a Man. And we just do terrible things. And then also just post the one good thing we did.

• 1:35:45Speaker 00

  I think you're talking about the Tate brothers. Exactly what they've been up to. I'm done with Will Compton questions. Those are over now.

• 1:35:52Speaker 02

  Was he taking notes when like, hey, we all know how to be a man, but why don't you pretend that we don't?

• 1:35:59Speaker 00

  We can rank burgers. We can do that next to if you want. I did have a serious question about the jobs that you've had because you go to these different places. And I know that like Baylor has, you know, a history and what their offenses looked like there. Nebraska, kind of the same way. How much do you have to lean into the DNA of a place and what it has been in the past and the past success that they've had? How much do you try to kind of absorb that and make it your own versus going and saying like, I know what I do well and what works for me. And this is what we're going to do.

• 1:36:25Speaker 06

  I think that's a, first of all, that's one of the best questions I'll get asked today.

• 1:36:28Speaker 00

  That's correct.

• 1:36:29Speaker 06

  And if not, this is my first interview of the day.

• 1:36:31Speaker 00

  It's also a question.

• 1:36:33Speaker 06

  So I'm, we should just end it now because I, because as a coach, you know, you evolve. Like this would be my 14th year as a head coach. And I remember my first year at Temple, I went in and we were terrible on defense. We were, we were pretty good on offense. We had a dynamic young quarterback, PJ Walker. So next year I was like, hey, we're going to be a spread team. We're going to score 40. And we, we were six and six. And I got to the end of the year and I was like, you know, I'd worked with Al Golden and we were Temple tough. Like we lined up in the I formation and we tried to kick your ass. And I was like, well, if it worked for Al and it worked for Steve and I worked for Steve Adasi, like, why am I doing something different? And so we went back to that and we, and we beat everybody up. And then I got to Baylor and that was probably, you know, hey, this is what I want to do.

• 1:37:14Speaker 06

  And I showed up there and, you know, I had two second round receivers, Denzel Mims, Ty Quan Thornton. And I was like, all right. I learned then that each place, you have to win differently at each place with a simple strategy, like a, a, a overall strategy. So our strategy's always been like, play great defense. You have to be able to run the football, you know, make plays in the passing game. And so it might look different. At Temple was the I formation. At Baylor it was a spread offense, but we were going to maintain that strategy with different tactics at each place. I get to Nebraska. And Coach Osborne sits me down, he goes, now, listen, there's gonna be 40 to 50 mile an hour winds here when you play here. You don't really believe that or know what that feels like until you get out there and it's 90 degrees, my first year against Rutgers, and there are 50 mile an hour winds in your face, you're like, oh, now I know why they ran the option. And honestly, they've outlawed

• 1:37:58Speaker 06

  cut blocks. I would run the option right now. I mean, it is the perfect place to do that.

• 1:38:02Speaker 02

  So sick.

• 1:38:03Speaker 06

  If they would, we ran a couple of option plays our first year and you'd come out and the fullback would have to block the guy high because you can't block him low. And back in the day, they cut that guy and the ball would go for 80, and it would go for like eight. So, so, but we have to lean into like, hey, the DNA of Nebraska is to be the most physical team on the field. And we haven't always been. And so you say like, why do I feel good about this year? It's like, you can say it, but it takes, it takes work and time to get those guys that are 280 to be 310, to get those guys that are 310 to be 315. And so, but I agree completely with what you're saying. Like, you need to look at that place. How have they been successful? Like, Nebraska's won multiple national championships under both Coach Devaney and Coach Osborne. So, I'd be a fool, you know, Coach Osborne came and talked to us in June and talked about how they practiced. Like, I'd be a fool not to always lean into what they did and how they did it.

• 1:38:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a great answer, yeah. All right, you want to go best question to worst question?

• 1:38:51Speaker 06

  Please.

• 1:38:51Speaker 02

  Uh, remember the time you spit on yourself? What happened there?

• 1:38:55Speaker 06

  I guess I spit on myself.

• 1:38:57Speaker 02

  No, but it was, it was when you were at Baylor, you like really spit on yourself.

• 1:39:01Speaker 06

  So, I get, um, I probably would be diagnosed with like severe ADHD and like, probably somewhat severe anxiety. And so, which I think makes a good football coach, right? Because you're always like, thinking about everything and you're always like worried about what could go. So, like during the games, man, I get dehydrated, like, I mean, like crazy. And so, I remember I was at Temple, like, I would constantly do this, one of those people were like tweeting about it, like, is he, is he on crack? Is he on meth? Like, what's wrong with him? And then, you know, Baylor, I spit on, but I've done a lot, I mean, you guys come play golf with me, I'll spit on myself every other hole. It's like, you know, like, but I think it should be celebrated, honestly. Like, I'm just a regular guy. Like, some of these coaches are gonna come in here, they're gonna have $2,000 suits, they do CrossFit in the mornings. Like, I'm just, I'm just an average Joe that gets to coach football.

• 1:39:46Speaker 02

  Well, that's a follow up is I, I do a blog every year about the NFL coaches' picture on Media Day, uh, or sorry, the owners' meeting.

• 1:39:55Speaker 06

  Oh, I remember. I was expected to come in. And get after you.

• 1:39:58Speaker 02

  Those pants, man. I mean, I mean, listen, I actually said it this year when I when I wrote up the whole pictures like, I think we've gotten too pretty in the NFL like there's a lot of, you know, and we like these guys, but like Sean McVay and like, you know, Matt LaFleur, like a little too pretty. We need to go back to the days where, you know, Coach Rule is is rolling out. It's like that guy's never seen an iron in his life. And he might have slept in a Toyota Corolla last night.

• 1:40:24Speaker 06

  Yeah, but like.

• 1:40:25Speaker 02

  That kind of stuff.

• 1:40:25Speaker 06

  But like, don't you want that?

• 1:40:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

• 1:40:28Speaker 06

  They had like they had that owners' party. It was so my first two years were COVID, so there was no owners' meetings. So my going into my last year, they had the owners' meetings. And so they started playing music and all the head coaches and GMs and owners are there. Me and my wife Julie, now Julie's a beautiful woman. She dresses really nicely, but me, regular guy, Matt and Julie, we got on the dance floor, started dancing. We're the only people out there dancing. People were like mesmerized, like tweeting about it. I'm like, yeah, like it's a party like.

• 1:40:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:40:51Speaker 06

  And then if the bar stays open till two, like you should stay there till two.

• 1:40:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:40:54Speaker 06

  And so, yeah, like the picture didn't come off great the next day, but I believe that secretly there were a lot of guys out there that look like me that like that like are like, you know what? I kind of respect it.

• 1:41:04Speaker 02

  I love that. Did you look in the mirror though before? When you saw the pants, you're like, ah, this won't be a big deal.

• 1:41:10Speaker 06

  I didn't look in the mirror this morning.

• 1:41:11Speaker 02

  Okay, okay, yeah.

• 1:41:13Speaker 06

  Because you go down there like, hey, we have meetings. So I'm like, all right, I'm walking down to the meetings and listening. You know, these guys, one super, you just sit in the room with like, you know, Mike Tomlin. I'm like, I'll just let Mike talk and I'll listen. All of a sudden, like, hey, we're going outside to take a picture.

• 1:41:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:25Speaker 06

  And because I'm one of the younger guys, they put me in the front. Like, I was just hoping to.

• 1:41:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:29Speaker 06

  I don't think I've taken a picture where I'm in the front row since like elementary school.

• 1:41:31Speaker 02

  They did kind of get you on that.

• 1:41:32Speaker 06

  I thought I'd be in the back next to Vrabel or somebody.

• 1:41:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:35Speaker 00

  So when you go outside, there's somebody that arranges you? They told you like you stand in the front?

• 1:41:39Speaker 06

  Just like, you know, like those guys had a lot more seniority and they all sat and they're kind of like, I just.

• 1:41:43Speaker 00

  They probably knew to like call dibs on where to stand.

• 1:41:46Speaker 06

  Because they.

• 1:41:46Speaker 00

  Because they've done it before.

• 1:41:47Speaker 06

  I guarantee you someone had worse worse attire on than I did.

• 1:41:50Speaker 02

  They were in the back.

• 1:41:50Speaker 06

  They were in the back like and so I, you know, you, things happen in life. You learn. It's like, next time I'm just going to go wedge myself in the back or some coaches didn't even go to the picture.

• 1:41:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:58Speaker 06

  Um, but then we wouldn't have anything to talk about now, right? So it's like, and it just kinda.

• 1:42:01Speaker 02

  It's one of my favorite. I mean, yeah, I'm looking at it right now. It's just you. You look so good. You look comfortable. You look the most comfortable out of anyone by far.

• 1:42:08Speaker 06

  And that is being a regular guy.

• 1:42:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:42:11Speaker 06

  I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Might be my new podcast.

• 1:42:14Speaker 02

  Regular guy, yeah. Do it on the bus and you'll.

• 1:42:17Speaker 06

  I told Adidas, like Adidas has like the best clothing. It's like fits great for our players. And I'm like, you guys need like a dad bod collection like. Guys that wanna go get a quick walk in, a little workout in, but you know.

• 1:42:27Speaker 02

  That extra material.

• 1:42:30Speaker 06

  Whatever. Just give me like a nice loose fit and drape.

• 1:42:32Speaker 00

  You know what they make now? They make sweatpants that look exactly like blue jeans. So if you look at them from across the room, you think that somebody's wearing denim. And then you put them on and they're, they're literally just like the same material as, as the heather gray sweatpants with the elastic waist.

• 1:42:45Speaker 06

  I love it.

• 1:42:46Speaker 00

  We gotta start investing in those.

• 1:42:47Speaker 06

  I love that.

• 1:42:48Speaker 00

  I feel like that's the next iteration of athleisure.

• 1:42:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, full suits that are just sweatpants?

• 1:42:53Speaker 00

  Yes, just as, as much stuff as you can make out of a tracksuit material as possible.

• 1:42:57Speaker 06

  I can tell you this, I'm wearing a suit today. And unless someone dies, I won't have a suit on again until I have to.

• 1:43:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, this day next year.

• 1:43:05Speaker 06

  This day next year.

• 1:43:05Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:43:06Speaker 00

  I, I was talking to somebody when I was on my way in here and they, they work in Nebraska and they know a little bit about you as a head coach. I was like, what does, what does he not like to talk about? And they told me to ask you about, um, I guess you're an incrementalist? It would be the way that you would put it, like, you know, like day to day type stuff. Like they told me to ask you about big goals.

• 1:43:25Speaker 06

  Yeah, well.

• 1:43:25Speaker 00

  Do you have big goals?

• 1:43:26Speaker 06

  Oh, absolutely. But I, I, you know, I, I, I read a quote in a book one time that said, you know, uh, goals are easy. Uh, execution is everything, right? So it's like, yeah, I want, I, I came to Nebraska to win a national championship, to win a big 10 title to put. I walk by every day and there's five national championship trophies as I walk to my office. And so, um, like that, that's my goal. That's why, that's why I work the way I work. That's why our coaches work the way they work. But I'm also like, okay, but every team is gonna, 18 teams in the big 10 are gonna walk out the first day and talk about winning the big 10 championship. So like, all right, well. Just tell me what we did today. Like, and so I just very much believe in like, hey, that's our goal. Like, and that I state that with our players. Like, we're here to get to the CFP and win a national championship. But to do that, we gotta do this. We gotta

• 1:44:09Speaker 06

  do this. And so, you know, I have a, I have a young daughter who's 11 and she's like, she's the youngest, she's wild, she's fun. And she mocks my opening press conference still to this day. Well, you know, I said something like, it, it, it, it won't, it will take, it, it, it will take time, it will be hard, but it will get done. And it's like, I have to remind myself of that sometimes, right? Like, you're sitting there and you're like, God, it's year three and it hasn't happened yet. Like, and we've done some good things, right? It had been 10 years since we went to back-to-back bowl games and we did that this year. But I want to hoist a trophy. And so, I just try to approach it like this every single day. But like, like, you get to a game, you want to win the game. So what do you have to do? You got, you got to win the first play. Like, I went to the Knicks, uh, game four when they came back from 29 down. I'm a diehard Knicks fan. Like,

• 1:44:54Speaker 06

  uh, Coach Brunson's a Temple guy. Like, you know, I, I follow those guys. And like, we're down by 29 at half. So what do you, what do you do? You want to come back and win the game? Well, I guess what? Win the first possession. And so just getting our player, so I speak that way for our players, right? Because they, they have these goals. All right, we'll just, just win the first play. And after the first play, whether we won or lost, just win the second play. And it's, it's boring, but like, it's, it's how to play golf. It's how to play football. It's how to kind of be a great dad for Will. It's how to be a good man for us. Like, it's just kind of is what it is.

• 1:45:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's well said because you're right. Like, I mean, you can make these lofty goals, but the follow-through is, you know, it's just doing it every day.

• 1:45:29Speaker 06

  Every day.

• 1:45:29Speaker 02

  Yeah. Um, when was the last time you did the bull in the ring?

• 1:45:32Speaker 06

  That I was in it?

• 1:45:34Speaker 02

  Yeah. Was it Temple?

• 1:45:36Speaker 06

  Uh, no, I did it at Baylor. I did it at Baylor.

• 1:45:38Speaker 02

  Can you tell me the story about the first time you did it at Temple? Because it feels like I've read about it. And it was like, that was part of the turnaround was like, Coach Rule being like, hey, look, I'm in this. And I'm going up against guys twice my size. Getting knocked around, this is what we gotta do to become physical.

• 1:45:55Speaker 06

  So, so previous to that, like when Al Golden was the head coach, we were trying to turn it around. Like across the street from us, we had a vacant lot. I mean, this thing had like, you know, needles in it and like hyperdermal needles. It was like a, like a crack den. It was awful, right? Now that's, it's pretty now, but, um, and we had great players, but they were young. Muhammad Wilkerson was a first round draft pick. Junior Galette was an all pro and, but at the time they didn't know how to play. And so one day I was like, I forget who we were playing. I put on a jersey and I put on a helmet and we took the starting defense out there and I put the 11 guys and I was just the, I was the D-line coach at the time and I hit every single guy, like, you know, just one, all 11 in that lot. Like I don't, how I didn't get whatever is amazing to me.

• 1:46:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:33Speaker 06

  And so that story kind of was in the program and guys would hear about that. And I came back as the head coach and, um, as we were trying to make that turn, uh, you're like, we, we were, it wasn't that we weren't tough. We just didn't know how to be tough yet. They were just young, right? I had great players. I had Hassan Reddick was a first round draft pick. Deion Dawkins is one of the best left tackles in pro football, but they were growing and, and one day I just put the pads on. I was like, let's go. And I think to your point, like, you know, like what, what can I, I'm 51 years old. I'm a white dude with white hair. Like, well, how can I relate to someone who's 18, 19, 20? Well, they probably love their family and I love my family and they probably love football and I love football. So we, we do have two things we can always connect on. So putting the pads on was like, hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do this with you guys. And I, I tell our seniors every year, like, hey,

• 1:47:16Speaker 06

  achieve this goal and I'll put the pads on and give you all one last hit on me, but they gotta earn it.

• 1:47:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:47:22Speaker 06

  I hope Justin Evans, he's out here, he's 315 pounds. I, I hope he earns that goal and my wife begs me not to do it.

• 1:47:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, I would say that it's probably a point where you're like, hey, I probably should stop doing this, but.

• 1:47:32Speaker 06

  I, I just think they have to feel like, hey, you know what, you know, I'm, I'm tough. Trust me, like I, I know you see me like, you know, kind of whatever, but guys, I'm in this with you.

• 1:47:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:47:41Speaker 00

  I think you might miss it too. I think you might miss the contact.

• 1:47:43Speaker 06

  Yeah, just don't miss the next day. Like when you do it, it's the most exhilarating thing in the world. And then the next day you wake up, you're like.

• 1:47:49Speaker 00

  Why did you do that?

• 1:47:50Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:47:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, I shouldn't have done that.

• 1:47:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. Can we go back to the attire just real quick? How did you decide to become a vest guy? And also, the vests that you've worn, are they like standard issue vests? Because they look, I guess for lack of a better word, like smockish? Like they look like they're wider than a normal vest might be. I'm just curious, like, do you have somebody that's made those for you? Or how, and how did you go about that?

• 1:48:12Speaker 06

  I usually just go get, I just tell them to get like a baseball cage jacket for me, right? So like, I wore that at, I wore that at Temple all the time. Um, and so my thing is always like, whatever I wear, uh, to practice, I'll wear the same thing to practice every day. I try to wear something similar in the game, right? Like, so I wear, I'll go out there in camp and I'll have a, uh, either a t-shirt and shorts on, or I'll have shorts and a cage jacket every day. So it's hot, you know, you're kind of miserable in it, but it feels like camp. And then I've just always worn that through. Now Baylor, it kind of went viral my last year there, um, it didn't have sleeves on it. They gave me a smock and I was like, yeah, I'll wear this. And then we started winning and we started winning and winning and then we run defeated. And then I was like, I better keep this on. And then it's funny, I got to Carolina, they're like, do you want to wear a smock? I was like, I never want to wear a smock again.

• 1:48:53Speaker 06

  That was not my, and the last year I wore a collared shirt and, uh, but I'll go, I'll go back to the cage jacket this year. Like, I, uh.

• 1:48:59Speaker 00

  We might be done with the smocks though?

• 1:49:00Speaker 06

  Yeah, they're just, what, just the one with the sleeves off it, like it, I just, you know, I, I, it's not, maybe five years ago. But now it's like, I just put a cage jacket on, go rock out.

• 1:49:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:49:10Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:49:11Speaker 02

  How is, uh, the Anthony Calandria who coming from UNLV, he's an electric player. How, how has it been having him work into the program? And like pretty big shoes to fill. Patrick Mahomes is a really good quarterback. So how's that been?

• 1:49:24Speaker 06

  Yeah, I, I think Anthony's been awesome. You know, the, the day, it's funny, the day that, that he committed to us. We thought we had a quarterback, it didn't work out and we were kind of scrambling and we were like, who's out there? And we brought three really talented quarterbacks in. And I, it's, it, you know, I still believe, I worked for a guy Steve Adazio, he was with Tim Tebow, and he was like, I don't care how the quarterback is mechanics, I don't care about anything. Like, you just have to find a guy who has it. And like, you can't describe what it is until you see it, but when you see it, you can't, so, I told our guys, I'm like, listen, who, we'll know within the first five minutes of each guy who the guy is. And I remember Anthony, like, you know, the way we do it, they pull out, they pull out to the 50-yard line of the stadium, they get out, and there's a highlight film playing, like, they, and they walk in, and all the, the whole staff's there.

• 1:50:05Speaker 06

  And he got out, and I watched it, like, his juice, when he shook everyone's hands. I watched his juice, like, when he dapped everyone up, and I was like, that's our guy. And, um, yeah, he's played at Virginia, he's from Florida, he played at Virginia, like, throwing in Nebraska is gonna be way different, right? We're gonna play in snow, probably, we're gonna play in cold weather. And so the spring, then, we moved to spring well up to February, where it was still cold. And, uh, he was awesome. Like, it didn't affect him, didn't bother him, so, you know, to, to, if I'm gonna be an incrementalist, and I'm gonna be like, hey, every day, process, all that boring stuff that is needed, but like, if I'm gonna be that guy, I need another guy on the other side who's like, a- all right, guys, I got this. Like, hey, listen to coach, but like, let, let's have some swagger about ourselves. And like, and let's back it up. And the thing I've seen about Anthony is, he's got juice, he's got belief in himself, he's got elite confidence,

• 1:50:50Speaker 06

  but he's also gonna back it up. He'll be a great, I believe, yin to my yang.

• 1:50:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:50:53Speaker 00

  Have you ever had a quarterback that, um, from time to time slipped up and wanted to call you Coach Reed?

• 1:51:00Speaker 06

  I've never had that. I've never had that.

• 1:51:02Speaker 00

  And never had, no, you sure?

• 1:51:04Speaker 06

  I've never had that.

• 1:51:04Speaker 00

  What about A and E?

• 1:51:06Speaker 06

  I've never had that.

• 1:51:07Speaker 00

  Okay, all right.

• 1:51:08Speaker 02

  Uh, you, you mentioned Coach Adazio a couple of times. Wa- was he always just on the, uh, be a dude? Because that was one of my fa- I mean, be a dude is a great mantra.

• 1:51:16Speaker 06

  I still have that, probably have that on my phone somewhere, like, I'll say, just dudes being dudes. Yeah, I mean, Co- Coach Adazio, uh, like, he, he really turned around my career. I worked with Al Golden, I was the OC, and Al went to Miami and didn't take me. And Steve came in, and Steve was like, listen, uh, my mentor, a guy named George DeLeon, had been his mentor, he's like, I'll give you a job through the end of recruiting, and then, you know, you'll have to move on. And so, I stayed through the end of recruiting, got to the day after recruiting, and was like, literally like, packing up my stuff, he walked in, he's like, hey, you're no longer the OC, but I'll make you the tight ends coach if you want to do it and I stayed with him and I had the best year of my life coaching like his energy his passion and it's it's been misinterpreted maybe some other times but like

• 1:51:57Speaker 06

  this is a guy you would want to go to war with and uh you know two years to the day from the I was cleaning out my office two years later I was being named as the head coach at temple and if Steve doesn't give me that chance if he doesn't keep me around and he also like kind of reignited a passion in me like these guys don't need a CEO like from the outside of my look they need a guy who's in the trenches with him that's who Steve was he was an O line coach as the head coach and I think that really shaped me as an early head coach

• 1:52:20Speaker 00

  yeah yeah you I mean that that's kind of crazy so when Al Golden didn't take you were you like what what the hell is going on

• 1:52:25Speaker 06

  that's just businessman like you know he needed a he needed a he he went to hire like an NFL OC actually Jed Fish who's now the head coach of Washington a great friend of mine um and then I think he had someone else after him but you know I was proud you know I was the OC at temple we turned that place around we won nine games we won eight games um but it was kind of we were ground and pound physical offense it wasn't something that was gonna excite the fans and he and he went to Miami and took other people um but you know everything happens for a reason like you know look back at your life and these things you think are the worst that ever happened to you you look back you're like thank God for that

• 1:52:55Speaker 00

  yeah

• 1:52:55Speaker 06

  and so had I gone to Miami I don't know where I'd be right now had I had Steve not kept me I don't know where I'd be right now but that's why I attack every day like I'm pretty grateful to be sitting here today

• 1:53:05Speaker 00

  yeah you mentioned Deion Dawkins earlier awesome guy and one of the funniest guys in the NFL I think like what was he like in college trying to coach him like was it hard to get him focused and and to make him be serious for a little bit cause he's like bouncing all all over the place

• 1:53:16Speaker 06

  uh he first of all he's the same exact guy

• 1:53:19Speaker 00

  yeah

• 1:53:19Speaker 06

  um he's probably one of my favorite players I've ever coached like I'll I'll be sitting there I'll get a FaceTime at like

• 1:53:25Speaker 00

  mm-hmm

• 1:53:25Speaker 06

  one o'clock in the morning it says snow on it I'm like he keeps changing his contact I'm like bro I can't look up snow like um but you know he so I so I get the job at temple and I'm still coaching at the Giants and he's in New Jersey and someone calls me and says listen there's a kid that was gonna go to Cincinnati he just got dropped and like this was like a movie like I go over to his house I'm sitting there with him and his tape wasn't very good but he's a big physical kid And I'm sitting there, I'm like, well, you know, trying to make a decision. I don't really know how to be a head coach yet. And I'm like, can you dunk a basketball? He's like, I can dunk a basketball. And his uncle's there. His uncle's a great dude now. He's like, he's like, let's go to the park right now. Let's go to the park. He'll dunk a basketball. Cause I'm like, is this guy explosive enough, right? So I kind of walk outside and I'm like, I think that's against NCAA rules to dunk it. I'm like,

• 1:54:08Speaker 06

  you know, I get fired before I get started. I was like, you know, don't worry about it. Let me go think about it. And I'll call you. And guys like Romantic Comedy, I'm walking to my car with Alan Mogridge, who's my old line coach at the time. I'm walking to my car and I stop. I'm like, what are you doing? I turn back around, walk back to him like, almost like we're gonna embrace and like, you know, at some, you know, some movie. And I'm like, if you're there on Sunday, you have a scholarship. And he came there on Sunday. He ends up being a second round draft pick. And he was so good for me because, you know, I'd be losing my mind snapping out at someone. He'd go, coach, coach, people skills, man, people skills. Like, he just calmed me down. And, you know, I think, I think if you want to be the coach you want to be, you have to have guys like that that like, aren't intimidated by you. And, and I'm, I'm so proud of what he's done, man. He is an overcomer. He's done amazing things.

• 1:54:50Speaker 02

  That's a great story. I love that.

• 1:54:52Speaker 00

  The fact that he was, he was willing to dunk. He got far enough where it's like, he was about to, you knew that he wasn't lying to you. You wanted to drag my ass all the way out here. Like, you were just gonna graze the rim. So you know all you needed to know.

• 1:55:04Speaker 02

  Um, all right. Well, Coach, thank you so much. We have one last question. Zach's gonna ask it. It's the Roback question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code TAKE, 20% off your first purchase. Q Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com promo code TAKE. Ready Zach?

• 1:55:17Speaker 00

  Yes, sir. How we doing today, Coach?

• 1:55:18Speaker 06

  Good.

• 1:55:19Speaker 00

  That's great to hear. I have a quick question for you. I was wondering, uh, how does doing a show like a House Rules when it comes time to recruit players? You know, it does seem like a unique window into the program. Do, do things like this come up with the families and with the players? And if so, what was the impact?

• 1:55:33Speaker 06

  Yeah. So that's really, really the reason we decided to do it. I, um, I was recruiting a kid a year ago and his mom was like, you know, all these coaches keep telling me like, I'm gonna help your son become a man. I'm gonna help your son do this. She's like, I don't want them to worry about that. Like, that's my job. She's like, but then I, I started watching at the time, some of our behind the scenes videos that we do. We have some of the best content guys in the world, Steven and Trey are like, they just blow my mind with what they can do. And they would show like me talking to the team. Or me, whatever. And she's like, and I kept hearing the way you were talking, how you were like talking about being a man, about being a good person and how it relates to football. And she's like, I get it. I would want my son to play for you. And I realized like, I spent all my time, like I get on YouTube, I watch like Mike McCarthy's opening, uh, talk to his team like, I, I want that access so I could be a better coach, then I should give it. And so,

• 1:56:18Speaker 06

  uh, this year, I mean, right now, our, our recruiting class, I mean, we'll, we'll probably have a top 10, top five class. I think part of it is like the parents, the friends, uh, the recruit themselves, like they get a chance to be around us. You know, we, we did house rules to really, you know, highlight our players, our players every week, you know, we had a different segment with them because I want them to build their own brand and start to do this stuff. So I think it's really, really helped.

• 1:56:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:56:40Speaker 00

  Good question.

• 1:56:41Speaker 02

  Good question, Zach.

• 1:56:42Speaker 06

  And I love the shirt.

• 1:56:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:56:43Speaker 06

  Absolutely love.

• 1:56:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, we got a couple of diehard Knicks. They were actually memes and Zach were both at game five when you guys won.

• 1:56:49Speaker 06

  Oh, that's awesome.

• 1:56:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:56:50Speaker 06

  And it's crazy. Like I got back and everyone's like, oh, what was New York like? I saw there was a fight. I'm like, I, I grew up in New York City. I took the subway to school my whole life. I'm walking down the street in New York City. I got police officers are hugging like

• 1:57:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:57:02Speaker 06

  random guys. Like it was the best day ever in that city, uh, when, when we came back and won that game. So, um,

• 1:57:08Speaker 02

  They almost got jumped by some Spurs fans though, in San Antonio.

• 1:57:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, tough day. A couple of guys were throwing bottles, but you know, you're better.

• 1:57:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you just won a title. Who cares?

• 1:57:15Speaker 06

  Yeah. I like my chances with you two. You guys, unless there were 10 of them, I'd feel pretty good about you two.

• 1:57:20Speaker 00

  They saw memes and they turned their ass around.

• 1:57:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:57:23Speaker 00

  There could be potential in this three man.

• 1:57:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, there you go. Team up. Um, well, Coach, thank you so much. Best of luck this year and really appreciate it.

• 1:57:30Speaker 06

  Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.

• 1:57:31Speaker 00

  Thanks, Coach.

• 1:57:33Speaker 00

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• 1:58:23Speaker 02

  Okay, time for Mount Rushmore. Uh, the scores right now are myself, memes and Max 36 points, PFT 28 points, Hank and Zach 26 points. We're now in August.

• 1:58:39Speaker 04

  It's go time.

• 1:58:40Speaker 02

  It's go time.

• 1:58:40Speaker 04

  Regular season starts now.

• 1:58:42Speaker 03

  Kumbaya.

• 1:58:43Speaker 02

  Kumbaya out the window.

• 1:58:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:58:45Speaker 02

  No more Mr. Nice Guy? You want to do that?

• 1:58:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:58:48Speaker 02

  Gloves off? All right, we're doing the Mount Rushmore of worst places your girlfriend or wife takes you. Is everyone ready?

• 1:58:58Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:58:59Speaker 02

  Okay, we, what is the order?

• 1:59:02Speaker 03

  We're first.

• 1:59:03Speaker 02

  We're first.

• 1:59:04Speaker 03

  Hank, Zach, second, PFT, third.

• 1:59:07Speaker 02

  Okay, all right, we're gonna go 1-1, uh, pretty simple one, shopping.

• 1:59:12Speaker 03

  Yep, easy.

• 1:59:14Speaker 02

  Brutal.

• 1:59:15Speaker 03

  All right.

• 1:59:15Speaker 02

  Going shopping. There's just nothing worse. Clothes shopping, furniture shopping, any type of shopping, you know, you're just gonna be stuck on your phone, sitting in a chair, walking around, even if you go, even if you go shopping and it's for you, that's even bad.

• 1:59:33Speaker 03

  That might be worse.

• 1:59:34Speaker 02

  It might be worse. It's just shopping in jet, because then you get, you have to, oh, you look good in this, you know, you gotta try on 7,000 things.

• 1:59:41Speaker 03

  You're, you're just going, the worst is when you're sitting outside of the dressing room and it just, oh, and it's just back and forth, back, what do you think of this? What do you think of this? What do you think of this? And then it's like, oh, you should try this on, you should try.

• 1:59:53Speaker 02

  Try this on, try this, I know what size I wear.

• 1:59:55Speaker 03

  Yeah. It all sucks.

• 1:59:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, sucks. Okay, you guys like that pick?

• 1:59:59Speaker 04

  It's a good pick. We had it.

• 2:00:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:00:01Speaker 04

  Uh, we are going to go with R11, which is court.

• 2:00:05Speaker 02

  Hmm, oh, okay.

• 2:00:08Speaker 04

  If your wife or girlfriend's taking you to court, it's, it's, it's a bad day.

• 2:00:11Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:00:11Speaker 04

  It's not, it's not a fun drive.

• 2:00:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:00:13Speaker 04

  You're not in a good spot.

• 2:00:13Speaker 03

  It's relatable. Crossed up.

• 2:00:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:00:17Speaker 02

  Good one, Max. That's good, Max.

• 2:00:23Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:00:25Speaker 02

  Court.

• 2:00:25Speaker 00

  Good pick.

• 2:00:27Speaker 02

  It seems like, was that Zach?

• 2:00:28Speaker 00

  Everyone hates that. I would hate going to court.

• 2:00:32Speaker 02

  That was your pick, Zach?

• 2:00:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, something like, listen, if, if, if there's ever a worse place for your girlfriend and wife to take you, she takes you to courts. You're in a bad spot. There's a comeback from that, you know what I mean?

• 2:00:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:00:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:00:43Speaker 03

  I think she takes you to court, there's not even, you don't even get like the reconciliation intimacy.

• 2:00:47Speaker 02

  Yeah. Facts.

• 2:00:48Speaker 00

  No, there's no fucking.

• 2:00:49Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:00:50Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 2:00:50Speaker 02

  Eh, court? Court can make you horny. Hate fucks one thing, court fuck? I don't know. Okay.

• 2:00:58Speaker 00

  Okay, um.

• 2:00:59Speaker 02

  You have two picks.

• 2:01:01Speaker 00

  Well, I was gonna take court first.

• 2:01:04Speaker 00

  So my number two, I'm gonna go, uh.

• 2:01:07Speaker 02

  I think he was being sarcastic.

• 2:01:09Speaker 04

  I do too.

• 2:01:11Speaker 02

  Go after him, dude.

• 2:01:12Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:01:13Speaker 02

  Kuba ass, out the window.

• 2:01:14Speaker 00

  No, we're Mr. Nice Guy.

• 2:01:15Speaker 04

  No, listen, I'm not worried about what you guys think, I'm worried about the, the people.

• 2:01:18Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:01:19Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:01:19Speaker 03

  You second guess yourself so hard.

• 2:01:21Speaker 04

  Always.

• 2:01:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:01:23Speaker 04

  We're in last place.

• 2:01:25Speaker 02

  Alright, it's, it's, it's, uh, there's like.

• 2:01:27Speaker 04

  I mean, I think we're, I think our number two pick is out the window.

• 2:01:30Speaker 02

  Half the.

• 2:01:31Speaker 03

  Oh, I gotta know, I gotta know. You gotta know.

• 2:01:35Speaker 02

  You gotta get a chance. Half the Mount Rushmore is after the first round, Hank looks and he, he looks like, like he's like, I did a different assignment than everyone else.

• 2:01:42Speaker 04

  That, that's how it is. But I.

• 2:01:47Speaker 04

  Whatever.

• 2:01:48Speaker 02

  That was your one one, though.

• 2:01:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:01:50Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:01:50Speaker 04

  And we're not, we're not.

• 2:01:51Speaker 02

  You need your one two.

• 2:01:52Speaker 04

  We are not, we are not doing our one two.

• 2:01:55Speaker 02

  Come on.

• 2:01:56Speaker 00

  Zach, you have to do your one two.

• 2:01:58Speaker 02

  Come on.

• 2:01:58Speaker 00

  And so, that's a rule.

• 2:02:01Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:02:02Speaker 00

  Alright, uh.

• 2:02:05Speaker 00

  I'm gonna go to a, a work party where you don't know anyone.

• 2:02:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:02:08Speaker 03

  It's a good pick.

• 2:02:08Speaker 00

  One of their work parties where you don't know anyone.

• 2:02:10Speaker 02

  Had it on there.

• 2:02:11Speaker 00

  Uh, and then. Next, I'm gonna go to their high school reunion.

• 2:02:15Speaker 02

  Hmm, okay.

• 2:02:16Speaker 00

  Kind of a similar vibe, but. Um, I just keep thinking back to that video with Beavon Kate. Where she's getting out of the car.

• 2:02:24Speaker 02

  Yup.

• 2:02:24Speaker 03

  That's a good.

• 2:02:24Speaker 02

  Yup.

• 2:02:25Speaker 03

  That's a good one.

• 2:02:27Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:02:28Speaker 03

  Alright, the one two.

• 2:02:30Speaker 02

  One two. Rip it, rip, rip one two.

• 2:02:33Speaker 04

  We can't, we're in last place.

• 2:02:35Speaker 03

  You could probably get on the way back.

• 2:02:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:02:36Speaker 02

  What do you think about, uh?

• 2:02:37Speaker 04

  Six.

• 2:02:38Speaker 02

  Hospital?

• 2:02:39Speaker 00

  We're gonna go with.

• 2:02:40Speaker 02

  Doctor.

• 2:02:41Speaker 00

  Oh, we had that.

• 2:02:43Speaker 02

  We had it. Yeah, I get tricked and go, I'm like a dog in my house. I get tricked and go to the doctor. My wife would just be like, hey, you gotta go to this address today. I'm like, what? And then I show up and the next thing you know, I'm getting my entire body scanned by someone who I've never met before.

• 2:03:00Speaker 00

  Are you, are you saying like going to meet her, like going with her to a doctor?

• 2:03:06Speaker 04

  Either or, yeah.

• 2:03:09Speaker 02

  The doctor.

• 2:03:11Speaker 04

  Or if you're going to the doctor and you're unhealthy and she's sitting there, you're like, oh shit, like I feel even worse now. Like you can't leave the doctor and be like, oh, it's good. Like I'm, I'm in, I'm, I'm, I'm in great shape. I'm healthy. Like if they're like, yeah, you're overweight and, and you gotta fix some things. And she hears that you have no choice but to like, do it.

• 2:03:30Speaker 00

  I want to know what your number two was.

• 2:03:32Speaker 02

  So bad. What are we doing, boys?

• 2:03:34Speaker 00

  We got our, we got our whole board.

• 2:03:36Speaker 03

  Entire board.

• 2:03:39Speaker 03

  I like, I like 15 or 11. Both of those I think are good.

• 2:03:44Speaker 04

  Six.

• 2:03:45Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 2:03:46Speaker 04

  Four.

• 2:03:47Speaker 03

  Six?

• 2:03:48Speaker 04

  Three.

• 2:03:49Speaker 02

  Well, stop.

• 2:03:50Speaker 04

  16.

• 2:03:51Speaker 02

  Shut up.

• 2:03:51Speaker 03

  Three is good too.

• 2:03:52Speaker 04

  11.

• 2:03:53Speaker 02

  No, no, no. All right. So you want, you want to do a 15, what about five?

• 2:03:58Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 2:03:59Speaker 02

  Shut up.

• 2:04:00Speaker 03

  I like five as well.

• 2:04:01Speaker 02

  Shut up.

• 2:04:02Speaker 04

  What about, do you sell your 11?

• 2:04:03Speaker 02

  Or 17, 17, I love.

• 2:04:06Speaker 04

  What about 18?

• 2:04:06Speaker 02

  We could get that.

• 2:04:07Speaker 00

  520, 17.

• 2:04:08Speaker 03

  We'll get on the, on the, on the bottom.

• 2:04:10Speaker 00

  520, 17, whichever one.

• 2:04:14Speaker 00

  32.

• 2:04:16Speaker 04

  11?

• 2:04:18Speaker 03

  Let's do five.

• 2:04:19Speaker 02

  Okay. Well, no, do, do yours first, then I'll do mine.

• 2:04:22Speaker 00

  17 is really good.

• 2:04:22Speaker 03

  Okay, which one?

• 2:04:23Speaker 04

  17.

• 2:04:24Speaker 02

  The, yeah, the, yeah.

• 2:04:26Speaker 00

  No, not 15. We said 15.

• 2:04:27Speaker 03

  Are we saying 15 or 11? What do you think?

• 2:04:32Speaker 02

  Hey, you realize you're prolonging this by yelling numbers? Cause now I have all these numbers in my head.

• 2:04:37Speaker 03

  Are we doing 15 or 11?

• 2:04:39Speaker 02

  Just consult.

• 2:04:39Speaker 04

  No, you consult beforehand.

• 2:04:42Speaker 02

  We get so many picks. There's three man team with too many picks.

• 2:04:46Speaker 03

  Uh, workout class.

• 2:04:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, workout class.

• 2:04:49Speaker 03

  Any, any.

• 2:04:50Speaker 02

  Any workout class.

• 2:04:51Speaker 03

  They bring you to a yoga.

• 2:04:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:04:53Speaker 03

  A Pilates.

• 2:04:54Speaker 02

  It's the worst.

• 2:04:54Speaker 03

  A HIIT. Men need to go to the gym to like, do, go on the treadmill for like 15 minutes and then sit at a bench and workout every, every. You do a set and then you scroll on your phone and then you do another, that, that's what, that's how men go to the gym.

• 2:05:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:10Speaker 03

  The workout classes is that's, that's for, that's for the chicks.

• 2:05:13Speaker 00

  You go to a bar class?

• 2:05:14Speaker 02

  Big time.

• 2:05:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, no, I'm not, none of it, none of it.

• 2:05:17Speaker 02

  No, none of that. And you know, it's, it's gonna be harder than an actual workout.

• 2:05:21Speaker 03

  Way harder.

• 2:05:22Speaker 02

  Always.

• 2:05:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, they'll be like, you're gonna like it. You're gonna get a great workout. And I have no doubt that I'll get a great workout. And it's just Max is right. There's a difference between like, a guy working out at the gym and then a girl going in and doing like the little.

• 2:05:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:35Speaker 00

  The little calf raises and it's easy for them. And then we look like a bunch of stinky idiots.

• 2:05:40Speaker 02

  And they make it seem like it's easy because they're like, okay, we're just gonna do these five exercises like for one minute intervals, but then they forget to tell you that there's like 25 one minute intervals and you don't get a break and you're out of shape.

• 2:05:54Speaker 03

  And they're all better looking than you. You feel like an asshole.

• 2:05:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:59Speaker 00

  You're the only one that smells in the room?

• 2:06:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, how? Yeah. Memes five or 17 for our next pick.

• 2:06:05Speaker 00

  I like five, 17 and 20.

• 2:06:09Speaker 03

  Did you see that video that Dana posted last week?

• 2:06:11Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:06:12Speaker 03

  He, he did, went to a workout class and he was sweating on, on another girl's treadmill. And then the girl went and made a complaint, made a complaint to the, to the instructor.

• 2:06:25Speaker 02

  This is so funny.

• 2:06:28Speaker 03

  And then Dana went up to her and was like, yo, if you have a problem with me, you can just tell me and I'll move. It's so funny.

• 2:06:35Speaker 02

  He was sweating on another treadmill?

• 2:06:37Speaker 03

  He was on one treadmill.

• 2:06:39Speaker 02

  That's hard to do.

• 2:06:40Speaker 03

  That was, that was running on the treadmill next to him and she like got up and wiped off his sweat from her treadmill and then went to the instructor and said, get this guy away from me.

• 2:06:50Speaker 02

  That's hard to do. That's hard to do. All right, memes, what are we doing here?

• 2:06:55Speaker 03

  I like seventeen.

• 2:06:56Speaker 02

  All right. Uh, double date with her best friend, whose husband you hate. The worst.

• 2:07:02Speaker 04

  Could pick.

• 2:07:02Speaker 02

  Just like, you just, you just.

• 2:07:04Speaker 03

  You just gotta make.

• 2:07:05Speaker 02

  Fucking, you just know, and you're like, hey, this is her best friend. So you're gonna have the, the, it's, it's, you're always gonna have to do it. And it's, yeah.

• 2:07:16Speaker 04

  Could pick.

• 2:07:18Speaker 02

  I love all my wife's friends husbands, just for the record.

• 2:07:23Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:07:24Speaker 02

  Except that one.

• 2:07:27Speaker 03

  I actually.

• 2:07:28Speaker 02

  I've been a muddy the water.

• 2:07:29Speaker 03

  I actually don't think that I.

• 2:07:31Speaker 02

  Nah, there's one, Max. Shut up. There's one. Yeah. Everyone has one.

• 2:07:37Speaker 03

  I'm gonna get so, oh, I'm gonna get so many. They get so many tags tomorrow.

• 2:07:44Speaker 02

  Oh, all right. Do the one, two.

• 2:07:46Speaker 04

  No.

• 2:07:47Speaker 02

  Why? What do you, what number are you thinking? Do the one, two. Seven? I like seven or eleven. Yeah.

• 2:07:53Speaker 00

  Zach, which one was your second pick?

• 2:07:56Speaker 02

  Which one was the second?

• 2:07:57Speaker 00

  We now, we have to know, Zach.

• 2:07:58Speaker 02

  Is it one, two?

• 2:07:59Speaker 04

  Tell you, we'll get, we'll get to it. Honorable mentions.

• 2:08:02Speaker 02

  I'm so excited for this. All right, we're gonna go with her parents' house. Okay, in-laws. Yeah, that's good. It's a good pick.

• 2:08:09Speaker 00

  Okay, I'm gonna say, uh, for my next pick.

• 2:08:14Speaker 00

  When she asks you to get into a fight for her with somebody.

• 2:08:20Speaker 04

  What was the name of the Marashmore?

• 2:08:22Speaker 00

  How is it? What's, what's the official title of it?

• 2:08:30Speaker 00

  What's the official title of it?

• 2:08:32Speaker 02

  It's a good point, Hank. It's a really good point. I don't know, it's your worst places.

• 2:08:40Speaker 03

  Worst places to go.

• 2:08:42Speaker 00

  Is, is that wrong?

• 2:08:44Speaker 04

  That's not a place.

• 2:08:46Speaker 00

  Getting into a fight.

• 2:08:48Speaker 02

  For her.

• 2:08:49Speaker 00

  For, yeah, yeah. Like somebody, somebody cuts in line. Hey, this guy just cut me in line.

• 2:08:54Speaker 02

  That's not really a place, though.

• 2:08:56Speaker 00

  The line.

• 2:08:58Speaker 03

  Worst places to be taken by your wife or girlfriend.

• 2:09:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, into a fight.

• 2:09:03Speaker 03

  You brought.

• 2:09:04Speaker 00

  Into a fight with a stranger.

• 2:09:05Speaker 02

  Has to say into a fight.

• 2:09:07Speaker 03

  In, yeah.

• 2:09:07Speaker 02

  Into a fight with a stranger?

• 2:09:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, into a fight.

• 2:09:10Speaker 02

  Into a fight with a stranger?

• 2:09:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay, yeah.

• 2:09:13Speaker 02

  I, I think I'll, I'll let that stand, Hank, what do you think?

• 2:09:16Speaker 00

  I think that's a good pick.

• 2:09:17Speaker 03

  I mean, it's up to, yeah, Hank.

• 2:09:19Speaker 04

  It's not a place, but.

• 2:09:20Speaker 03

  You're the one battling.

• 2:09:22Speaker 04

  It's not a place.

• 2:09:23Speaker 02

  So you wanna, you wanna throw the flag there? I mean, I don't know how into a fight with a stranger.

• 2:09:27Speaker 04

  Word it into a way that's a place.

• 2:09:29Speaker 00

  We're understanding, what's, what's the problem here?

• 2:09:31Speaker 04

  You started when she.

• 2:09:32Speaker 02

  In a.

• 2:09:33Speaker 03

  Out.

• 2:09:34Speaker 00

  Into a fight is a place. In, into a fight is a place.

• 2:09:37Speaker 03

  A fight is an action.

• 2:09:39Speaker 00

  It's, it's also a place.

• 2:09:40Speaker 02

  It's not a place, you gotta pick a place.

• 2:09:43Speaker 03

  Like, is it like a boxing ring?

• 2:09:44Speaker 02

  In a line.

• 2:09:45Speaker 04

  Takes you to the octagon, so you have to fight.

• 2:09:48Speaker 02

  In a line for a movie in a fight with a stranger.

• 2:09:52Speaker 00

  I don't understand what's so complicated about that, I think.

• 2:09:54Speaker 04

  Word it in a way that defines a place.

• 2:09:56Speaker 00

  I think into a fight.

• 2:09:58Speaker 02

  Is not a place.

• 2:09:59Speaker 00

  Lines up perfectly with the Mount Rushmore graphic.

• 2:10:02Speaker 02

  Fight, that's not a place.

• 2:10:04Speaker 00

  It, it works with the graphic.

• 2:10:05Speaker 02

  That's a state of mind.

• 2:10:06Speaker 00

  It works.

• 2:10:07Speaker 04

  No, it doesn't.

• 2:10:09Speaker 00

  It does work.

• 2:10:09Speaker 02

  No, into a fight is not a place.

• 2:10:12Speaker 03

  Fighting in line, maybe?

• 2:10:14Speaker 00

  I think that works.

• 2:10:15Speaker 02

  Fighting in line?

• 2:10:15Speaker 00

  It, no, it works perfectly with the graphic into a fight.

• 2:10:19Speaker 03

  In, in a public setting.

• 2:10:21Speaker 00

  My pick is not in, in a line, my pick is into a fight.

• 2:10:25Speaker 04

  And, and, and so into a fight, where is the place?

• 2:10:30Speaker 00

  The fight.

• 2:10:32Speaker 04

  That, the fight is not a place.

• 2:10:34Speaker 03

  A fight is.

• 2:10:35Speaker 00

  Wait, wait, wait, okay, Big Cat texted, because we were, I, we went back and forth with suggestions, Big Cat says, let's do worst places to be taken by your wife slash girlfriend.

• 2:10:45Speaker 03

  Worst places.

• 2:10:46Speaker 00

  Worst places to be taken into a fight, that works, I, I don't understand what, why you guys are pretending to, you guys do this all the time, you pretend to not understand, making discourse impossible.

• 2:10:57Speaker 03

  This is great discourse.

• 2:10:58Speaker 02

  This is good discourse.

• 2:10:59Speaker 03

  This is excellent discourse.

• 2:11:00Speaker 02

  A physical fight, yeah, good point.

• 2:11:02Speaker 00

  Fight, boots on ground, but.

• 2:11:03Speaker 02

  Boots on ground where so what's the actual phrasing on the

• 2:11:07Speaker 00

  Into a fight. I don't know how much more I don't know how much more clear.

• 2:11:11Speaker 02

  But but it into a fight with a stranger.

• 2:11:13Speaker 00

  Into no, I don't. I've said it six times into a fight is the pick.

• 2:11:19Speaker 02

  But that's totally different because that could be into people will assume it's into a fight with your wife or your girlfriend. And that's not what it is.

• 2:11:26Speaker 00

  Into into a fight is my pick.

• 2:11:27Speaker 02

  That's I don't I disagree.

• 2:11:29Speaker 00

  Why can't I? Why can't I tell you the words that I would like for my pick?

• 2:11:33Speaker 02

  Because that's not a place and it's also not really what you're saying because it's people are going to just assume it's wife or girlfriend.

• 2:11:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, that you're just fighting with them.

• 2:11:42Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:11:43Speaker 00

  That's also that's also a great example.

• 2:11:45Speaker 02

  Not a place.

• 2:11:49Speaker 02

  It's just not a place.

• 2:11:50Speaker 03

  It's just not a place.

• 2:11:51Speaker 02

  It's just not a place.

• 2:11:52Speaker 00

  You guys are stuck.

• 2:11:55Speaker 03

  You keep saying that word.

• 2:11:57Speaker 02

  You just love doing the prom. Does if it was Mount Rushmore of things your wife or girlfriend does, this would be a great pick.

• 2:12:03Speaker 00

  Place place is definitely up for debate. You guys had it in your mind that place had to had to be had to be. No, I'm saying the definition of place is absolutely up for debate. You had it in your mind that it meant one thing. I had in my mind, it could mean some other things.

• 2:12:24Speaker 02

  I I think you have to add stranger if you're going to put this in. I'm fine with having it, but you can't have it just be into a fight because that assumes

• 2:12:31Speaker 03

  Hank.

• 2:12:31Speaker 02

  That's a fight with your wife or girlfriend.

• 2:12:33Speaker 04

  I legitimately can don't even understand what he's saying like you're just choosing. You're just choosing. You're just like.

• 2:12:38Speaker 00

  How do you not understand? How dumb are you?

• 2:12:41Speaker 04

  It doesn't make sense to you, but it makes sense to me. So therefore I'm right.

• 2:12:45Speaker 00

  What?

• 2:12:46Speaker 04

  That's your argument.

• 2:12:48Speaker 00

  That into a fight makes sense. I think it makes sense. Yes.

• 2:12:53Speaker 02

  It's not a place though.

• 2:12:54Speaker 03

  The pick is Fight Club. You have to pick is it has to be.

• 2:12:57Speaker 02

  Oh, I'll take that as the words Fight Club.

• 2:13:00Speaker 03

  Does it have to be a place, right?

• 2:13:02Speaker 02

  Because that's a place. Fight Club is a real place.

• 2:13:07Speaker 02

  That's a fair pick Fight Club with a stranger.

• 2:13:10Speaker 00

  But if you pick, if you pick, uh, on a double date, a double date isn't a place. The place would be, the place would be a restaurant.

• 2:13:18Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:13:18Speaker 00

  The place would be a movie. The place would be a physical place.

• 2:13:21Speaker 02

  No, but a double date, you're going somewhere. That's a place that you're going. You know what a double date is.

• 2:13:26Speaker 00

  That's a not. You know what a fight is.

• 2:13:28Speaker 02

  But you don't know where it is. What are you talking about?

• 2:13:30Speaker 00

  You don't know where the double date is. That's what I'm saying. Like it's not, not, not every pick has been a, a specific physical location.

• 2:13:37Speaker 02

  Okay, well, fine. We'll take a double date at a restaurant. Great.

• 2:13:41Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:13:42Speaker 02

  Now you gotta find another way to phrase this. Cause that's not.

• 2:13:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:13:47Speaker 02

  Like.

• 2:13:48Speaker 00

  I think into a fight's a good pick.

• 2:13:50Speaker 02

  You have to, you got, you have to put in what, what the like.

• 2:13:53Speaker 04

  Name the location of the fight and you, and you're good.

• 2:13:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. Or, or who the fight is with, because it can't, cause if it's just into a fight, people are gonna just see that and be like, oh, that's a fight with your wife or your girlfriend. That's not, that's not what the pick is.

• 2:14:06Speaker 03

  It's also just not the prompt. You just get into a fight with the significant other is not, you're not, she's not bringing you anywhere. You leave, for these picks, you're leaving your home to go somewhere else that your wife or girlfriend is bringing you. Where are you going to this fight?

• 2:14:27Speaker 02

  Fight club.

• 2:14:28Speaker 00

  You're in a fight.

• 2:14:31Speaker 03

  But you could do that anywhere. That could literally be at home. That could be like, what does that mean? What does that fucking mean? Yes, you don't even need to be in the same room. It could be, it could be a text.

• 2:14:43Speaker 02

  All right. So what's the exact, cause I'll, I'll accept if it's in, in, into a fight.

• 2:14:49Speaker 03

  One of these in a while.

• 2:14:50Speaker 02

  Into a fight on her behalf with a stranger. If you want that to be the pick, that describes.

• 2:14:55Speaker 00

  Yes, that, that was, that was exactly what I was trying to say from the jump.

• 2:14:59Speaker 02

  Well, no, then you change it to just into a fight.

• 2:15:02Speaker 00

  Into a fight, but yeah, the initial explanation that I gave was.

• 2:15:05Speaker 02

  I'm fine with, I, I don't think it's anything of, I don't think it's close to what we're doing, but I think it's not a good pick that I'm fine with having it. If Hank and.

• 2:15:13Speaker 04

  Hank, Hank, this is up to you.

• 2:15:15Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 2:15:15Speaker 04

  It's up to you.

• 2:15:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:15:17Speaker 03

  So what, what are we doing?

• 2:15:18Speaker 04

  Into a fight with a stranger?

• 2:15:20Speaker 02

  On her behalf.

• 2:15:21Speaker 00

  In line.

• 2:15:22Speaker 02

  In line.

• 2:15:23Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:15:23Speaker 02

  No. Possibly a line.

• 2:15:26Speaker 03

  All right. So we're.

• 2:15:27Speaker 02

  Into a fight with a stranger on her behalf.

• 2:15:30Speaker 00

  That's, that, that is completely fine because that is the initial explanation that I gave.

• 2:15:35Speaker 03

  Fuck it.

• 2:15:36Speaker 00

  Physical or verbal? Don't think it matters.

• 2:15:39Speaker 02

  Really?

• 2:15:39Speaker 00

  Don't think that's in the eye of the beholder. Super fair.

• 2:15:41Speaker 02

  That was a really good question.

• 2:15:42Speaker 00

  You're, you're distracted from the fact that we've all been in a situation where it's like, oh, you, you're being asked to take on a fight. That's not your fight to begin with. Like, ah shit, now this confrontation has to be on my shoulders.

• 2:15:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, that is something that a wife and a girlfriend does that would be like the worst things they do, not worse places they take you.

• 2:16:01Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:16:03Speaker 02

  That's a different Rushmore.

• 2:16:04Speaker 03

  Whatever. Hank, are you okay with it? Yep. All right. Now we can.

• 2:16:10Speaker 00

  Okay, you have a last one? Then my last one is going to be, uh, to get a pedicure.

• 2:16:14Speaker 02

  I was hoping you were going to say something insane.

• 2:16:17Speaker 00

  That I was gonna what?

• 2:16:18Speaker 02

  No, I was hoping you were gonna say something insane like.

• 2:16:21Speaker 00

  No, get a pedicure. Not a foot guy. Don't want people to go all Dan Orlovsky on you.

• 2:16:27Speaker 02

  I thought, I like, it would've been great if you followed up with like, when she makes you take out the trash.

• 2:16:32Speaker 00

  Man, that's, that's a bad play. The alley?

• 2:16:35Speaker 02

  All right, pedicure?

• 2:16:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, to get a pedicure.

• 2:16:38Speaker 02

  Okay. Uh, you guys have a pick?

• 2:16:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, fuck it.

• 2:16:44Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 2:16:44Speaker 04

  Our second pick. The abortion clinic.

• 2:16:47Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 2:16:52Speaker 02

  Yes, I mean.

• 2:16:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:16:54Speaker 04

  That's not, that's a, that's a bad trip.

• 2:16:56Speaker 02

  That's a bad, no matter how you look at it, that's a bad place to go. Yeah, you're not ha, it's not happy times.

• 2:17:03Speaker 04

  No, and it's, yeah, it's, it's just bad.

• 2:17:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, bad. Is this, now is this after court?

• 2:17:09Speaker 04

  Who knows? There's separate things.

• 2:17:11Speaker 00

  Mandated?

• 2:17:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:17:14Speaker 04

  Can I mandate that?

• 2:17:15Speaker 02

  What about if she makes you get into a fight with the doctor giving the abortion?

• 2:17:19Speaker 04

  That would be worse.

• 2:17:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:17:20Speaker 00

  You want to, you don't want to do that before.

• 2:17:22Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:17:23Speaker 00

  After procedure.

• 2:17:24Speaker 02

  Definitely not. Okay, what, what, what do we have for our last?

• 2:17:28Speaker 03

  I think five.

• 2:17:28Speaker 02

  You want to do five?

• 2:17:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:17:30Speaker 02

  Okay. Or, or two?

• 2:17:33Speaker 03

  Two, there's, there's, you get the opposite.

• 2:17:36Speaker 02

  I also like 20.

• 2:17:37Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 2:17:38Speaker 03

  20, yeah.

• 2:17:39Speaker 02

  It's very similar.

• 2:17:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's similar to that one.

• 2:17:41Speaker 02

  All right, uh, you guys were kind of like dancing around it, but marriage counseling, that's a bad place to have to go to. So it's a really bad place. Things aren't going well.

• 2:17:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:17:53Speaker 00

  You could just be working. You could be working on yourself.

• 2:17:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:17:56Speaker 03

  Like preventative, yeah.

• 2:17:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:17:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, could be preventative. True. Uh, all right, honorable mentions. I feel like there's some hostility still in this room.

• 2:18:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's been a pattern this Mount Rushmore season.

• 2:18:08Speaker 02

  How so?

• 2:18:08Speaker 00

  And it's because I'm on my own, so I gotta fight all the battles at once. Don't have anybody on my team. It's just, you know, it's, it's easy to latch on. I, I feel like.

• 2:18:18Speaker 04

  The problem was a lot of shit. And you started with when she.

• 2:18:21Speaker 02

  Who, yeah.

• 2:18:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, into a fight, I, we don't have to relitigate it. Into a fight, I still think counts as a place.

• 2:18:28Speaker 02

  But I think we, I don't think.

• 2:18:29Speaker 00

  It's a lack of imagination to not understand that.

• 2:18:31Speaker 02

  I don't think.

• 2:18:32Speaker 04

  You started with when she.

• 2:18:33Speaker 02

  I don't think there's any latching on there. I think we all just universally were like, that is not what we're talking about. And also this Mount Rushmore season, you won Lava Lamp.

• 2:18:42Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:18:42Speaker 02

  You got gelato right after ice cream.

• 2:18:45Speaker 00

  Just a bad pick.

• 2:18:45Speaker 02

  But you, but like, I don't think that anyone's been ganging up on you.

• 2:18:49Speaker 03

  Well, we gang up, but then you just keep the pick.

• 2:18:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:18:52Speaker 02

  Right. Exactly.

• 2:18:53Speaker 03

  That's what, that's what.

• 2:18:53Speaker 00

  That was what happened here.

• 2:18:55Speaker 02

  That wasn't a latching on. We all were like, I think we all were like, what is that pick? I think that was a universal.

• 2:19:02Speaker 00

  It wasn't more, it was less of a what was that pick and that pick shouldn't count, which has happened before. But yes, Max is right. It usually ends up with me keeping the pick anyways.

• 2:19:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, what's Mount Rushmore?

• 2:19:12Speaker 02

  That's Mount Rushmore, yes, right.

• 2:19:13Speaker 03

  If we're not gonna yell at each other a little bit.

• 2:19:15Speaker 02

  Okay, honorable mentions. Taylor Swift concert. Max didn't want to do that because he's a Swifty.

• 2:19:21Speaker 03

  Well, I, there's people that are huge fans that.

• 2:19:25Speaker 04

  Friends baby shower.

• 2:19:26Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:19:27Speaker 04

  Male strip club.

• 2:19:29Speaker 03

  Do those exist?

• 2:19:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Chippendales?

• 2:19:35Speaker 03

  There's male strippers, but are there, is there a male strip club?

• 2:19:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:19:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:19:40Speaker 02

  Oh, memes.

• 2:19:41Speaker 03

  There just are.

• 2:19:42Speaker 02

  Um, ballet?

• 2:19:44Speaker 03

  But I feel like no one actually does that.

• 2:19:46Speaker 02

  Ballet?

• 2:19:47Speaker 03

  That would be horrendous.

• 2:19:51Speaker 02

  Hike. We said we'll hike.

• 2:19:54Speaker 00

  Hike's not bad.

• 2:19:55Speaker 02

  Uh, B, if you're the sober driver for her girls' night? Hmm, that's tough.

• 2:20:00Speaker 00

  That's a tough place to be.

• 2:20:01Speaker 03

  We said brunch with her friends.

• 2:20:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, brunch with her friends. Uh.

• 2:20:06Speaker 02

  Farmer's market, but we realized that it's the act of going to the farmer's market because then when you, once you get to the farmer's market, it's actually just you're eating food.

• 2:20:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, you get like not good food, but it is.

• 2:20:16Speaker 02

  I had, I had on here, anything vegan. Just anything vegan.

• 2:20:22Speaker 03

  Not a place.

• 2:20:22Speaker 02

  Doesn't really play, count.

• 2:20:23Speaker 03

  Not a place.

• 2:20:24Speaker 02

  It's not a place, but anything vegan, because I just remember one time my wife took me to a farm to table restaurant and it was vegan and I was, I've never been so more mad. Yeah, carrot steak. I got, I had a carrot steak for dinner and I remind her of it like once a month. And she's like, when are you gonna stop reminding me? I'm like, I can't, I can't take back that trauma.

• 2:20:43Speaker 03

  I'm, I went to one too, and I remember I just ate a bunch of dumplings.

• 2:20:46Speaker 02

  They didn't have dumplings. I just ate like a fucking rabbit for two hours and was so hungry when I left.

• 2:20:53Speaker 00

  I had to her adult cheerleading competition.

• 2:20:57Speaker 02

  Not our, not for our queen.

• 2:20:58Speaker 00

  Nope, nope, no. That's why I didn't pick it.

• 2:21:00Speaker 02

  Yeah. Um, school fundraisers aren't fun.

• 2:21:05Speaker 03

  That's for the kids.

• 2:21:07Speaker 02

  No, no, no, but like the school fundraiser when the kids aren't there.

• 2:21:11Speaker 03

  But the, but the point.

• 2:21:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I get it, but you could fundraise from home too. Yeah, you could do that from home.

• 2:21:17Speaker 00

  To the mechanics?

• 2:21:20Speaker 02

  Mechanic?

• 2:21:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:21Speaker 02

  I actually like that pick.

• 2:21:22Speaker 00

  Cars in the shop.

• 2:21:23Speaker 02

  You look like an idiot.

• 2:21:24Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:21:25Speaker 02

  It's just basically your wife or girlfriend's putting you in a mono-y mono situation that you will a hundred percent lose.

• 2:21:30Speaker 00

  I feel uncomfortable talking to the mechanic. You're a man. Can you talk to him? And then you feel like way less of a man talking to him.

• 2:21:36Speaker 02

  Yep, that's a good one. That's a good one. Um, let's see. Do we have any others?

• 2:21:43Speaker 00

  Move?

• 2:21:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:21:46Speaker 00

  Anytime you get signed up to move stuff, just because you're the, the male.

• 2:21:49Speaker 02

  That sucks. Yeah.

• 2:21:53Speaker 02

  Do you think the Swifties would have voted against Taylor Swift concert? Max is just such a fucking.

• 2:21:58Speaker 00

  I could say Taylor, I, I feel like Taylor Swift concert, you'd figure out a way to have a good time.

• 2:22:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, I guess there would be. I do have her chair.

• 2:22:05Speaker 00

  They're bangers.

• 2:22:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:22:07Speaker 03

  Definitely bangers.

• 2:22:08Speaker 02

  Do have her chair. Also, uh, I just want on the record memes was very little help in this. He just was like, dude, he was just looking at me and Max all the time, being like, you guys are fucking losers.

• 2:22:19Speaker 03

  Basically.

• 2:22:20Speaker 02

  You get bossed around. He's such an alpha memes.

• 2:22:26Speaker 02

  All right. Good Mount Rushmore. Got a little contentious. It's fine. It's August. No more kumbaya.

• 2:22:32Speaker 03

  You guys scoffed at court and did marriage counseling.

• 2:22:35Speaker 02

  Yeah. That was our fourth pick.

• 2:22:39Speaker 00

  Wait, what's your second pick?

• 2:22:40Speaker 02

  I mean, marriage counseling is probably happens more than court.

• 2:22:45Speaker 00

  Divorce?

• 2:22:45Speaker 03

  Honestly, I don't know.

• 2:22:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I mean, divorce don't really get to court all the time.

• 2:22:51Speaker 00

  Divorce court would be, I think, a good pick.

• 2:22:55Speaker 03

  That's what it is.

• 2:22:55Speaker 04

  But wife or girlfriend? Yeah.

• 2:22:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:22:59Speaker 04

  But girlfriends will take you to divorce court.

• 2:23:01Speaker 00

  That's true.

• 2:23:03Speaker 02

  So you just said court?

• 2:23:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:23:05Speaker 02

  That's true. Yeah. So we should have said, we should, well.

• 2:23:08Speaker 03

  We're fine.

• 2:23:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. We said, we, yeah.

• 2:23:12Speaker 03

  We're, we're, we're.

• 2:23:13Speaker 02

  Marriage counselor. Yeah. Okay. Uh, good show, boys. Contentious.

• 2:23:18Speaker 00

  Would that be couples counseling?

• 2:23:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:23:20Speaker 00

  It sounds like a fight.

• 2:23:22Speaker 03

  What?

• 2:23:23Speaker 00

  Court's just a fight in front of a judge.

• 2:23:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, true.

• 2:23:26Speaker 00

  Think about it.

• 2:23:27Speaker 02

  True.

• 2:23:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:23:28Speaker 04

  At a physical location. Yeah.

• 2:23:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:23:31Speaker 00

  It's a fight. Show up at, yeah.

• 2:23:34Speaker 02

  I really wanted in, in a line to be on the crap.

• 2:23:39Speaker 00

  Actually, just in a line in general.

• 2:23:42Speaker 03

  Any line.

• 2:23:43Speaker 00

  Might have been a good pick.

• 2:23:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, would have been a good pick.

• 2:23:45Speaker 00

  To stand, to wait in line.

• 2:23:46Speaker 02

  Anytime you're asked to go somewhere that has a long line.

• 2:23:48Speaker 00

  To wait in line with her, yes.

• 2:23:49Speaker 03

  I waited in line to get into a bar this weekend for the first time in like five years.

• 2:23:54Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, that's, listen, Diva Max, you don't wait in line for nobody.

• 2:23:57Speaker 00

  Max loves lines.

• 2:23:58Speaker 03

  I just don't go to bars that have lines.

• 2:24:00Speaker 00

  He loves line Vegas, different story.

• 2:24:02Speaker 02

  The, going, going to bars, line sucks.

• 2:24:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:24:06Speaker 02

  It's brutal. You should have skipped the line. She said, you know who I am?

• 2:24:11Speaker 02

  I'm Max Salante.

• 2:24:12Speaker 03

  They're out.

• 2:24:13Speaker 02

  For four all fit.

• 2:24:15Speaker 03

  There actually were, there were fans, there were AWLs inside and when I was in the line, he was like, skip the line, skip the line. I'm like, I'm not skip, skipping this line.

• 2:24:25Speaker 02

  You can't be a line skipper.

• 2:24:26Speaker 03

  And then I went inside and he was like, I asked the bouncer to, if you could skip. He said, no. I was like, I wasn't trying to.

• 2:24:32Speaker 02

  Not on my behalf. Not on my behalf. All right.

• 2:24:35Speaker 03

  Shout out that guy.

• 2:24:35Speaker 02

  All right, um, oh, shout out, by the way, the, the two AWLs who, uh, I went to the National Sports Card Convention on Thursday. First of all, what a scene, like insane. Kyle and Nick put it perfectly. Um, it's the only place in the world where the urinals, there's, there's no line for the urinals because the stalls are always full. Just everyone's got massive diarrhea in that place. Just Exploders is what they call them. Just, it's a convention of Exploders.

• 2:25:07Speaker 04

  We went to the other one.

• 2:25:08Speaker 02

  Which one?

• 2:25:09Speaker 04

  Uh, what's it called? Not SummerSlam, WrestleMania.

• 2:25:12Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah. Also, but I'm, but that one was at least people using urinals. I'm saying, I went to the bathroom.

• 2:25:21Speaker 02

  Every urinal was, was, was open.

• 2:25:23Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 2:25:23Speaker 02

  All the stalls were full. Just dudes just shitting all day because they just stay in the convention center and trade cards and eat tacos.

• 2:25:31Speaker 03

  That's a bar, that's a Barstool office.

• 2:25:33Speaker 02

  That's true, but it was crazy and it was, it was very cool and I appreciate everyone who, like, it was a cool scene, but it was chaotic. But there's two, I bought a huge Stone Cold Steve Austin piece and I had like a few things and I was, I was doing that thing, walking to my car where I'd walk like 10 feet then have to reset it. And then two AWLs like, dude, you need some help? And I was like, yes, please. Thank you. So they, maybe a cuck move, but, uh, one of them helped me carry some stuff. So.

• 2:26:00Speaker 03

  Shout out those guys. Very nice of them.

• 2:26:01Speaker 02

  Yes. Okay. All right. Uh, numbers.

• 2:26:04Speaker 03

  Twenty-three.

• 2:26:05Speaker 00

  Four.

• 2:26:06Speaker 02

  Seventy-six.

• 2:26:07Speaker 00

  Seven.

• 2:26:09Speaker 04

  Eighty-six.

• 2:26:10Speaker 03

  Sixteen.

• 2:26:11Speaker 04

  Ninety-one.

• 2:26:12Speaker 02

  Sixty-nine. Ten, nine, eight, seventy-six. Uh, two.

• 2:26:21Speaker 03

  Someone's gonna get it today.

• 2:26:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, I have a feeling.

• 2:26:23Speaker 02

  Bolton memes and PFT are the only ones who have not gotten it.

• 2:26:26Speaker 03

  Somebody's gonna get it today.

• 2:26:27Speaker 00

  We're gonna get into a fight in a line.

• 2:26:32Speaker 02

  It's not working. Oh, there we go. What'd you do memes?

• 2:26:35Speaker 00

  I picked number four. What'd you do?

• 2:26:37Speaker 02

  Hmm, seventy-six.

• 2:26:48Speaker 02

  Oh. Thirty.

• 2:26:50Speaker 00

  Thirty.

• 2:26:51Speaker 02

  Anyone?

• 2:26:51Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 2:26:52Speaker 02

  One more?

• 2:26:54Speaker 03

  One more, one more.

• 2:26:55Speaker 00

  Thirty, anybody?

• 2:26:56Speaker 03

  Nope, no, we got thirty.

• 2:26:58Speaker 00

  One's gone, twice.

• 2:27:00Speaker 03

  Bolton, what'd you, what'd you pick?

• 2:27:02Speaker 00

  Sixty-nine.

• 2:27:03Speaker 03

  Sixty-nine for Bolton. Sixty-sixty-nine.

• 2:27:07Speaker 00

  I would like, I would like a meme. Oh, four.

• 2:27:10Speaker 02

  Oh. Oh, and another one for me.

• 2:27:17Speaker 02

  Memes, you need help with this? Cause I've done it again. How many times have I gotten this? Three? The number's two, by the way.

• 2:27:23Speaker 00

  How you doing on your burger count, buddy?

• 2:27:25Speaker 02

  Uh, I already came out in the trust tree, buddy. We were in the trust tree earlier when I was saying I'm worried about my burger count.

• 2:27:31Speaker 00

  Focus on that. You're not gonna do it.

• 2:27:32Speaker 02

  Number two, I got it. Uh, is that my third time? I will happily teach.

• 2:27:41Speaker 02

  Cold, would you like me to teach you? I can help you. I got you.

• 2:27:47Speaker 02

  How many have I got?

• 2:27:48Speaker 03

  This.

• 2:27:49Speaker 02

  Oh, it's only my second. Okay.

• 2:27:50Speaker 03

  In this ball, in this machine.

• 2:27:51Speaker 02

  Hey, listen. So maybe I gotta get a third time, but I got it. It's, it doesn't even matter to get it at this point for guys like us who've gotten it before. Do you guys agree?

• 2:28:01Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 2:28:02Speaker 02

  I'm getting it this week.

• 2:28:03Speaker 03

  I have no problem.

• 2:28:04Speaker 02

  Hank, you agree?

• 2:28:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:05Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's like, Zach, you agree?

• 2:28:09Speaker 03

  It was right. I wa- I was right that said somebody was gonna get it today.

• 2:28:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:13Speaker 02

  Zach, you agree, right? I think anytime you.

• 2:28:16Speaker 03

  Feels good.

• 2:28:18Speaker 02

  I forgot when you got it. You almost died.

• 2:28:22Speaker 02

  That just doesn't get.

• 2:28:23Speaker 03

  That was tough. Yeah, we shouldn't talk about that.

• 2:28:26Speaker 02

  You almost died.

• 2:28:28Speaker 03

  That was, that was a rough, that was a rough time in this booth.

• 2:28:30Speaker 02

  Memes. See that? Number two.

• 2:28:33Speaker 00

  It was the second poll.

• 2:28:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:28:34Speaker 00

  I think it'd be much more accomplishing, setting a goal, let's say in the beginning of summer and then completing it.

• 2:28:39Speaker 02

  By which I will. Are you doubting? Should I put you on the list?

• 2:28:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm doubting.

• 2:28:43Speaker 02

  Robert Sala, receipts?

• 2:28:44Speaker 00

  You're not.

• 2:28:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, alright, okay. You're on the, you're on the list. You just made the list, buddy.

• 2:28:49Speaker 00

  Not doing it.

• 2:28:52Speaker 04

  Happy birthday to, uh, Jay Cutler, the bodybuilder. Uh, happy birthday to Khan Knipl. Happy birthday, Young Waku. Happy birthday to Todd Gurley, Martha Stewart, and Tom Brady. Also, happy birthday to Ryan Lochte and Jake Bobo.

• 2:29:07Speaker 02

  Jerry Garcia.

• 2:29:08Speaker 03

  Bobo!

• 2:29:08Speaker 04

  Bobo, and happy birthday to John Riggins and Roger Clemens. A lot of birthdays today.

• 2:29:13Speaker 03

  I fucking love Bobo.

• 2:29:15Speaker 04

  Happy birthday to Lori Lightfoot.

• 2:29:17Speaker 03

  And Bobo.

• 2:29:18Speaker 04

  And Bobo. Mostly Bobo.

• 2:29:20Speaker 02

  Lightfoot and Bobo.

• 2:29:21Speaker 04

  Also, happy early birthday, Wednesday, just getting ahead of it. Uh, Blutman and Rusillo, the big two.

• 2:29:27Speaker 03

  Getting better at this birthday thing.

• 2:29:28Speaker 04

  Love you guys.