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  All right, back to Pardon My Take.

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  Welcome to Part of My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, July 17th, and we are all living in Messi's world because Argentina has gone on to the final. It is not coming home, PFT.

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  It's never gonna come.

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  It was.

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  It's edging home.

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  It was an incredible, incredible game. I would like to read it. And listen, I don't want to make it about this other guy, but I'd like to read a tweet to you real quick, PFT, from Bobby BS underscore. He said, "The dumbest person you know still thinks Ronaldo is better than Messi."

• 2:57Speaker 03

  That's so true.

• 2:58Speaker 00

  Zach?

• 3:00Speaker 04

  I don't know, maybe.

• 3:00Speaker 00

  Well, you're just sitting here. Sorry, that wasn't, that wasn't directed at you.

• 3:04Speaker 03

  You're not the dumbest person.

• 3:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're not.

• 3:05Speaker 03

  You also think that Ronaldo is better than Messi, but he's talking about a different guy that thinks, the dumbest person. You're not the dumbest.

• 3:12Speaker 04

  All right, I'll take that.

• 3:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. It was, what did you think? What was going through your head, Zach?

• 3:16Speaker 04

  On the game yesterday?

• 3:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:18Speaker 04

  Uh, I'm honestly unbelievable. I mean, that second goal, the cross with the, the cross and the second goal, I want to be a hater a little bit. I really can't.

• 3:26Speaker 03

  You can't anymore.

• 3:27Speaker 04

  I, I can't.

• 3:29Speaker 03

  I don't think anybody, I don't think it's possible to.

• 3:31Speaker 04

  If he wins the World Cup again, there's not really, I don't know where anybody goes from here.

• 3:37Speaker 03

  Okay, so if he wins the World Cup again, I'm, I'm prepared to say he might be the GOAT GOAT.

• 3:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:43Speaker 03

  Like the GOAT of GOATS.

• 3:46Speaker 04

  I'm completely.

• 3:46Speaker 03

  Right now, I think Michael Jordan and Muhammad Ali are both tied for the GOAT GOAT.

• 3:50Speaker 00

  And Secretary.

• 3:51Speaker 03

  And Secretary. But Messi could get on the Mount Rushmore of GOAT GOATS. And and like if he wins the the uh was it the golden boot?

• 3:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:59Speaker 03

  Right now, I think he's tied with Mbappe. Mbappe is playing the third place game. Very excited to see England's performance in the third place game.

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  Yep.

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  It's the most hilarious thing that the World Cup makes these guys play. The losers of the semifinals, you have to go play in the uh in the third place game on Saturday. And I actually, I I did some research this morning on the history of the third place game at the World Cup.

• 4:20Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 4:21Speaker 03

  England has, they've got the possibility to set the all time record for most third place game losses.

• 4:27Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 4:27Speaker 03

  Right now, they're tied with Brazil with two. If they lose another one, then that would mean that they have that record on their own. And if you look back through history, uh earliest recent history, three of the last five champions of the World Cup go on to win the third place game the next year.

• 4:44Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 4:44Speaker 03

  So that would mean that France would win this third place game and England would etch their names into history.

• 4:49Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 4:50Speaker 03

  As the losingest third place game team in World Cup history.

• 4:52Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 4:53Speaker 03

  Um now, we have the conversation of like, did Argentina win it or did England lose it?

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  I think England lost it.

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  Well.

• 5:01Speaker 03

  Now, it was, so here's a crazy stat.

• 5:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 5:04Speaker 03

  Okay, so they parked the bus, they scored a goal, immediately put on defensive substitutions.

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  Mm hmm.

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  They they telegraphed what they were gonna do. They're just like, we're going to park the world's saddest bus in the penalty area and hope that Messi doesn't do it to us. So in between um 66:05 in game time and 84:42 in game time. So about 20 minutes of game time.

• 5:27Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 5:27Speaker 03

  Guess how many accurate passes England hit to each other amongst themselves? How many, how many passes, accurate, complete passes did England have in those 20 minutes?

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  Four.

• 5:40Speaker 03

  They had two.

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  Two.

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  They had two passes in 20 minutes and they were from the goalie to the center back and the center back back to the goalie.

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  I saw the stat that they had 12% possession uh from the moment that England scored their first goal to the the uh game winning goal. 12% possession. They completely turtled, they went into, I let's just hold on, they did the Herm Edwards, you play to win the game, but they. They did the opposite. You don't play to win the game. They were just essentially the, the, the last 25 minutes, especially after the hydration break, which they, we can all agree Argentina is the best fourth quarter team in the league. That's not even close. They've just been doing this in every single game.

• 6:21Speaker 03

  They're the New York Knicks of, of football.

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  It's been insane. The, uh, but, but from that moment on, it was England just basically standing with everyone in the box and get, and Argentina taking shot after shot. And then England kicking it out and doing nothing with it. And like you said, they put in their defensive subs. They had no speed on the field. They couldn't, like, I don't even know what the plan was if it went to extra time. They, they, they, they basically were just playing to try to win it one, nothing, expecting Messi not to do it. And here's the, the greatness of Messi. Because you could go through the stats and the stats are insane for, for, he's 39 years old and he leads Argentina in goals, assists, shots, shots on target, chances created, big chances created.

• 7:05Speaker 00

  It's literally the entire list. He leads the team in that. Um, but it was crazy to watch because you could just see in the game. That England was essentially saying, we're not going to let Messi score.

• 7:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  And Messi realized they're not going to let me score. They're sending three guys at me every time I have the ball. Why don't I just have the most sublime assist possible with the cross that, that was the game winning header? That's what he did. He was like, I, I will adjust and I don't have to be a Ronaldo type.

• 7:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  Where I, where I try to, you know, tap it in. I'm just going to win this game by setting my, my teammates up.

• 7:40Speaker 03

  And even the first goal, it was a great shot.

• 7:42Speaker 00

  It was.

• 7:42Speaker 03

  Awesome shot, but also it's the same thing. Like two, three guys were running at Messi.

• 7:46Speaker 00

  It's the gravity thing. It's like Steph Curry.

• 7:48Speaker 03

  Like I'm, I'm going to lay it off. You're going to, if you can make a 25 yard shot.

• 7:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:52Speaker 03

  Go for it. And it, it was a pretty good shot. I think the, what's his name? Um.

• 7:56Speaker 00

  Pickford.

• 7:57Speaker 03

  Pickford.

• 7:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:58Speaker 03

  He should have gotten.

• 7:58Speaker 00

  It's, it, it's the, the gravity thing of Steph Curry where it's like, even if Steph Curry's not making threes, the defense has to focus so much on where this person is at all times. That it cha, it tilts the whole field and Messi realized that and was like, okay, you're going to just keep sending guys. There's going to be a mismatch somewhere else. It was brilliant. He's we're we're black. He's 39 years old. He's 39 years old and he's basically saying, I will find a way to win this game, even if I don't have, even if I'm not the one scoring the goal.

• 8:29Speaker 03

  Zach, tell me what you think about this. You're a Bucks fan. You love Baker Mayfield.

• 8:33Speaker 04

  They should. Both things true.

• 8:34Speaker 03

  Teams should have rules that say, do not fuck with Baker Mayfield during the game, because he's just going to use that and he's going to get better. That's what they did to Messi. They poked the bear with Messi.

• 8:44Speaker 00

  Bellingham.

• 8:44Speaker 03

  Bellingham, Bell, Bellin. He, he, he got in his face and Messi gave him the look like, it was like, okay, okay.

• 8:52Speaker 00

  It was, it was essentially, he was just basically doing Robert De Niro in countless mob movies, where he just gave him the, all right, I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill you. And that's all that's going to happen. And then he backed it up and killed him.

• 9:04Speaker 03

  What's that? Is it Bronx Tale, the one where the guy goes, now you can't leave?

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  Yeah.

• 9:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. That's what Messi said. Like, he was like, fuck you. Okay, you want to do that?

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  It was one of the most badass looks you could ever have.

• 9:13Speaker 03

  It was stupid. It was stupid. And you know that look because you've, you've seen that happen to Baker before.

• 9:17Speaker 04

  He should have known better.

• 9:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:18Speaker 04

  He had no business doing that. And then for him to throw his hands up in the air when they do inevitably let that second goal in, like, oh, we've, how have they lost the game for us? It's like, well, you kind of started this fire.

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  Yeah.

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  Why are you, I don't know.

• 9:28Speaker 00

  You should have left it alone.

• 9:30Speaker 04

  And for them to like, we've seen this throughout the entire World Cup. Teams think they can get up on Argentina and they'll just like, all right, we'll just park and try to survive. There is no just trying to survive. They should have tried to win the game.

• 9:41Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 9:41Speaker 04

  Because if you just sit back, they're going to just chip away and do what Argentina does.

• 9:45Speaker 00

  It was so tilted. It was just shot after shot after shot.

• 9:49Speaker 03

  Another crazy stat about Argentina in the knockout stage, they have not led the game in the 90th minute of any of their knockout games. You just can't kill them.

• 9:58Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 9:59Speaker 03

  You just can't. That's probably the craziest stat that I read about him.

• 10:02Speaker 00

  Also, this, this goes to speak. I know there's a third place game, PFT, that you talked about, England versus France. The third place game has already been decided. It's Cape Verde. Cape Verde won the third place game.

• 10:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:13Speaker 00

  They took the finals of the World Cup, Argentina versus Spain. They took both of those teams to tied into extra time.

• 10:21Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 10:21Speaker 00

  They tied Spain overall. They lost to, to Argentina in extra time, three to two. But they had both of the World Cup finalists on the ropes.

• 10:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  As a country.

• 10:31Speaker 03

  After 90 minutes, yeah.

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  Pardon my takes, official third place winner of the World Cup is Cape Verde. I wish Hank was here to celebrate this with us.

• 10:38Speaker 03

  It's a, it's a great day. It's a great day for, what's his name, Vazinho?

• 10:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:43Speaker 03

  The 40 year old goalie?

• 10:44Speaker 00

  He was, that they, that is incredible to, to look at and be like, they took both these teams to, to the wire.

• 10:49Speaker 03

  Here's the stat. So against Cape Verde in the knockout round, uh, they won in the 111th minute. Against Egypt in the knockout round, they won in the 92nd minute. Against Switzerland, they won in the 112th minute. Against England, they won in the 92nd minute. They have not led after 90 minutes of any knockout game and they're in the final.

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  It's nuts.

• 11:09Speaker 03

  That's just what they do. And, uh, it's, it's just kinda like, I don't, you can't kill them.

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  It's his World Cup.

• 11:16Speaker 03

  It is.

• 11:16Speaker 00

  It's his World Cup at 39 years old.

• 11:18Speaker 03

  Is it his to lose now?

• 11:20Speaker 00

  No, I think that, I mean, look, I.

• 11:22Speaker 03

  He's in a situation where he either becomes the goat goat or.

• 11:26Speaker 00

  It's still.

• 11:26Speaker 03

  It's, it's a, a passing of the torch or passing of the bathwater.

• 11:30Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 11:30Speaker 03

  To, to him all. It's just like he anointed the next goat.

• 11:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 11:34Speaker 03

  So that we can spin ourselves into that if we have to.

• 11:37Speaker 00

  Also, I, I just gotta say shout out to Argentina because they know they, if I were the Indiana Fever head coach, I would watch Argentina games with my entire team there and say, see this? Because every time Messi is fucked with or hit or anything, it is instant that the entire team is over there.

• 11:59Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

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  Being like, that's how you protect your goat. They, they are a perfect team in that respect. They all, they are all there to serve Messi.

• 12:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  In one way or another, and, and Messi will then give it back to them being like, hey, I'm not going to score. I'm going to give you, that, that cross, I, I must've watched it a hundred times. It is the most picture perfect cross you could ever have.

• 12:24Speaker 03

  It's.

• 12:24Speaker 00

  It's insane, Zach.

• 12:26Speaker 03

  It, it was special, man.

• 12:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:28Speaker 03

  It's like, yeah, like there's, there's nothing good things you can say about this team and Messi at this point. It just, we won't see something like this again.

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  Did you?

• 12:35Speaker 03

  I don't think.

• 12:36Speaker 00

  Did you ever think going into this World Cup that it would be this bad for you and Ronaldo?

• 12:40Speaker 03

  For, safe space? No.

• 12:42Speaker 00

  Right.

• 12:43Speaker 03

  Not even.

• 12:43Speaker 00

  Cause like it's, it's actually getting, we, we were on it early. We were like, it's getting mean. It's getting to the point where it's like, he's, Messi's doing stuff that is awe inspiring. And Ronaldo is sitting, you know, putting, you know, coconut oil on his abs somewhere. Been like, well, I was back for a second against Uzbekistan.

• 13:02Speaker 04

  And you know, he's watching his every move.

• 13:03Speaker 03

  It does sound pretty good.

• 13:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:04Speaker 03

  Uzbekistan game was special though.

• 13:07Speaker 00

  We'll always remember it. I think that should lead one shining moment.

• 13:09Speaker 03

  Yes. So back. So back.

• 13:11Speaker 04

  I felt good at with the Uzbekistan game. I was like, okay, this could be Portugal's World Cup.

• 13:14Speaker 03

  What do you guys think about Argentina's jerseys?

• 13:17Speaker 00

  Love them.

• 13:18Speaker 03

  The alternates?

• 13:19Speaker 00

  Always. I love all their jerseys.

• 13:20Speaker 03

  The, the blue ones?

• 13:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:22Speaker 03

  I, I don't have a problem. I think in terms of all the alternate jerseys out there.

• 13:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:26Speaker 03

  They're, they're the best.

• 13:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. And their classics, obviously are the best.

• 13:29Speaker 03

  Right. But they, you can't have the white stripes on there without Diego Maradona.

• 13:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:33Speaker 03

  He would love those.

• 13:34Speaker 00

  No, they have, they have great, they have great jerseys. They're great.

• 13:37Speaker 03

  Really good jerseys.

• 13:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:38Speaker 03

  It's like, it's UNC. They're the UNC of South America.

• 13:41Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 13:41Speaker 04

  What do you guys think about the collars on the jerseys?

• 13:43Speaker 00

  I always think it looks soft.

• 13:45Speaker 04

  Fair.

• 13:46Speaker 00

  It feels like you should be like golfing or something. Cause England had collars. And England, I mean, poor England. I don't really feel bad for them, but it is all they have. And they just lose. We said it a couple of weeks ago where it's like, remember when I, I think it was the Mexico game? And someone asked me who I was rooting for. I was like, I'm actually rooting for England because this wouldn't be tragic enough. Like if they lose to Mexico in, in the Azteca, it's like, hey, you can put your hands up. We weren't close. I was like, I need, I need England heartbreak in an exceptional way, and they always deliver.

• 14:17Speaker 03

  And they, yeah. So originally we called it in the Norway game and then we said, that's

• 14:22Speaker 00

  Too easy.

• 14:22Speaker 03

  It feels, it feels right that they would lose to Argentina.

• 14:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:26Speaker 03

  Um, and then losing to, I didn't even expect it to be this bad. I don't know that they can do any worse. I feel like this is silver lining, probably as bad as it gets if you're England.

• 14:37Speaker 00

  Oh, no, they'll find a way to make it worse.

• 14:39Speaker 03

  I don't know how it can get worse against Argentina and a 39 year old Messi in, in extra time.

• 14:44Speaker 00

  And it's

• 14:44Speaker 03

  When you do it to yourself, like they, they had that game and they just said, we're going to be giant pussies.

• 14:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. And it's especially twisting the knife, knife because their manager Tuchel was supposed to be the, the, the master and, and the tactician. And not like the old guy and be able to be like, hey, we're going to put our foot on the gas. We're going to build this team to play all 90 minutes. And uh, turns out they're the exact same.

• 15:07Speaker 03

  It's kind of beautiful that you can depend on England for that, isn't it?

• 15:10Speaker 00

  It's great. It's never coming home.

• 15:12Speaker 03

  All these years and they just, they can't help themselves. I had a debate in the gambling cave yesterday. Would you rather lose? And let's just not talk about what round it was in. Let's say, um, for both these two teams, it's the quarterfinals that you lose in. Would you rather lose a game in the knockout stage like England did? Where you have the lead and you play really, really well for most of the game? Or would you rather get your teeth kicked in like the United States against Belgium? I would rather get curb stomped by Belgium than have a lead and then become the biggest bunch of chicken shits ever and then have to live the rest of your life being like, we had that game and we just, we just mentally shat ourselves.

• 15:56Speaker 00

  Were you shaking your head, Max?

• 15:57Speaker 05

  Disagree.

• 15:59Speaker 03

  Disagree?

• 16:00Speaker 00

  Okay, embrace debate, embrace debate. I'm thinking about my answer.

• 16:04Speaker 05

  We got absolutely shit on by a team that wasn't even that good. If we made it to the final four and we're competing in the 90th minute.

• 16:12Speaker 03

  You didn't hear.

• 16:13Speaker 05

  That would have changed soccer in the US forever.

• 16:15Speaker 03

  You didn't hear the start of the hypothetical.

• 16:16Speaker 05

  I may have missed the start.

• 16:17Speaker 03

  It was, throw out what stage it's in. Let's just say it's

• 16:21Speaker 05

  Got it.

• 16:21Speaker 03

  Both quarterfinal games or both round of 16 or whatever.

• 16:24Speaker 05

  What about?

• 16:25Speaker 03

  Just the nature of the loss and I, I like.

• 16:28Speaker 05

  I still think the nature of the loss, it would have been, we were like, we're competing against one of the best, best nations in the world.

• 16:33Speaker 03

  Disagree, Max.

• 16:34Speaker 05

  We belong on that level.

• 16:35Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 16:36Speaker 05

  The US just got embarrassed and was like, oh no, there's.

• 16:40Speaker 03

  All right, I think we, we were never in that game.

• 16:42Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 16:43Speaker 03

  Against Belgium. So it's like, we, we, I never had the opportunity to get excited about it. I, I think back to the Washington commanders in the NFC championship game.

• 16:50Speaker 05

  What happened in that game?

• 16:51Speaker 03

  You smoked the fuck out of us. And then the Bills go on to have the most heartbreaking defeat ever later on that day. And I'm like, thank God I got my ass kicked. That's way better than how the Bills lose.

• 17:03Speaker 06

  I disagree.

• 17:05Speaker 00

  Well, go ahead, Mims.

• 17:05Speaker 06

  I, I'm, I'm as a former loser, I, I, it's.

• 17:10Speaker 00

  Turn your mic off.

• 17:12Speaker 03

  It's, it's a kind of addicting to lose in heartbreaking fashion.

• 17:15Speaker 00

  Well, so that was, that was kind of where I was going. I was thinking about it because you have to kind of take the US men's national team out of this hypothetical, just because we suck at soccer and it's like, but if it was just, let's say two European countries, there is something about the battle scars of losing in that way where when you get embarrassed, you're like, well, there was never even a chance. I don't know. It's a, it's a good question because

• 17:40Speaker 00

  losing like we lost, you're not, you're not even replaying the game in your head.

• 17:44Speaker 03

  No.

• 17:44Speaker 00

  You're not like, oh, if this went different, if this went different.

• 17:46Speaker 03

  You burned the tape.

• 17:48Speaker 00

  And man, that England, I, I think I'd probably go the, the four, one loss because England, like they had it. All they had to do was not be pussies about it.

• 17:55Speaker 03

  And they couldn't.

• 17:55Speaker 00

  And they couldn't.

• 17:56Speaker 03

  Winston Churchill would be so furious.

• 17:59Speaker 00

  Oh, man.

• 18:00Speaker 03

  We'll fight on the beaches.

• 18:03Speaker 00

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• 19:13Speaker 03

  I'll be joining you.

• 19:13Speaker 00

  Okay, we'll be, we'll be streaming the World Cup final.

• 19:16Speaker 04

  I'll be there too.

• 19:17Speaker 00

  We have a bonus bet that we have to, we have to figure out what we're gonna bet. I don't really want to bet aside. I'm nervous to bet aside. If, if I were to bet aside, it'd be Argentina. I think we gotta do something fun. I don't know what that fun is.

• 19:32Speaker 04

  Corners.

• 19:32Speaker 00

  Corners, corners and goals.

• 19:36Speaker 00

  But Spain's so annoying. Spain is so annoying. They just hold the ball and they're so good at holding the ball and getting the ball back.

• 19:44Speaker 03

  Can you bet cards, yellow cards?

• 19:46Speaker 00

  Good. That would actually be, if we can find that market, that would be fun.

• 19:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:53Speaker 04

  I think for the World Cup, they just let them play.

• 19:55Speaker 00

  I don't know, right? I don't, but, but also the guys who have no cards are like, hey, fuck it. We don't care. There's no game after this.

• 20:03Speaker 03

  Got no rollover minutes right now. If you're Zidane, you just let it all fly.

• 20:06Speaker 00

  Do you guys think, I mean Zach, we know you're rooting for Spain. Um, I want Argentina to win.

• 20:12Speaker 03

  I gotta root for Argentina. Yeah. I, I think Spain's defense is really, really good.

• 20:16Speaker 00

  There, everything is really.

• 20:17Speaker 03

  That, that one dude that looks like, uh, the Bustamante, former CIA guy that goes on the podcasts.

• 20:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:23Speaker 03

  You know, the professional podcaster just talks about like what it's like to be a spy. Um, he's probably still in the CIA. The guy that looks like him, I forget his name on Spain's defense. That dude's a fucking monster.

• 20:32Speaker 00

  Mm hmm. He is a monster. What do you got Zach?

• 20:36Speaker 04

  Those guys are eerily similar with the hair.

• 20:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:38Speaker 04

  Unbelievably similar.

• 20:39Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 20:40Speaker 04

  You think he was actually in the CIA?

• 20:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:42Speaker 04

  I get another time, I guess.

• 20:43Speaker 03

  I think, um, I think it's gonna be a good game.

• 20:47Speaker 04

  Definitely gonna be a good game. You mean, Mal just has his entire, entire life still to win the World Cup and Messi, this is it.

• 20:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's, it's a big time passing the torch game if, if Spain wins.

• 20:58Speaker 05

  And none of it makes like the baptism stuff, none of it makes sense. It's like, how are we here?

• 21:01Speaker 00

  No.

• 21:01Speaker 05

  Out of all the outcomes that have come together, this is where we're at?

• 21:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:05Speaker 03

  And in that pick, he's such a funny looking baby, too.

• 21:08Speaker 00

  I know.

• 21:08Speaker 03

  He's a hilarious, absolutely hilarious looking baby.

• 21:11Speaker 00

  His little brother's the star of the World Cup.

• 21:13Speaker 03

  It's, it's, it's so crazy and um, he needs to learn what offsides is though.

• 21:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, I haven't seen a more offsides player in the World Cup than you.

• 21:20Speaker 00

  He loves being offsides.

• 21:21Speaker 03

  He loves hanging out offsides. Gotta dial that shit back a little bit, buddy.

• 21:25Speaker 00

  Okay, last thing before we do our Mount Rushmore. Is LeBron ever gonna decide? This is so annoying.

• 21:31Speaker 03

  No, no, he's not.

• 21:32Speaker 00

  And now we got clues being dropped. Did you guys see there was a, there was a ESP, I think it was PTI's podcast? That had nothing to do with LeBron that was titled, how Steph is behind LeBron's big decision? And then there was a video of Steve Kerr, uh, someone yelling at him when he was driving and saying, we need to get LeBron. He said, oh, we got him.

• 21:50Speaker 03

  I saw that, yeah.

• 21:51Speaker 00

  So what, what's going on? I'm, I'm now at the point where I'm annoyed.

• 21:54Speaker 03

  Well, we've already reported LeBron to the Cavs.

• 21:57Speaker 00

  We have, but I'm annoyed.

• 21:58Speaker 03

  Has there been a material change?

• 22:00Speaker 00

  I think we could go material change and say, we don't know and we don't care.

• 22:03Speaker 03

  There might be a material change. We talked about a little bit with, when Horst, the idea that, that another team could, uh, could scoop up Bronny.

• 22:10Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 22:10Speaker 03

  Almost like hold him hostage. I was thinking more about this, this morning. If a team like paid way above market value in a trade with the Lakers to get Bronny. If they're one of the three teams that LeBron has said, hey, I'm down to the last three here. You get Bronny on your team and then you say, if you don't, if you don't sign with us, we're shipping Bronny's ass to the G League. For the rest of his career.

• 22:32Speaker 00

  I like that.

• 22:32Speaker 03

  And he's gonna rot in the G League.

• 22:34Speaker 00

  I like that.

• 22:34Speaker 03

  And if, if you don't, if you don't, believe me, try me. Cause we'd love to.

• 22:38Speaker 00

  I like that a lot.

• 22:39Speaker 03

  I will ruin your son's life. If you don't.

• 22:42Speaker 00

  Write a movie about it.

• 22:43Speaker 03

  If you don't join the team. I, I think it's probably the best. They don't have any, uh, any real leverage with LeBron. That's the only way you can get leverage.

• 22:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:50Speaker 03

  If you ever want to see your son again.

• 22:51Speaker 00

  Is, Max, are you even focused on LeBron?

• 22:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, it, I just wanted, I know it's not gonna be in Philly. I know he's not gonna come to Philly. But there's a chance and like they're in the back of my head. I, I'm not.

• 23:04Speaker 00

  Said you know he's not gonna come to Philly.

• 23:06Speaker 05

  But there's, but until he decides somewhere, there's a chance.

• 23:11Speaker 03

  That was the fastest.

• 23:11Speaker 05

  There's a chance.

• 23:12Speaker 03

  The fastest reversal on.

• 23:14Speaker 05

  I know, I know in my heart of hearts, but he might.

• 23:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:18Speaker 05

  So like I, I need, I just need it to happen. I need him to say that he's not coming to Philly so I can stop worrying about it. I'm sick of it.

• 23:26Speaker 03

  What are the odds right now?

• 23:28Speaker 05

  It it it's changing like so ra- it'll be different by the time this podcast comes out.

• 23:35Speaker 03

  Let's see what we're at here.

• 23:36Speaker 00

  And we need a better LeBron reporter.

• 23:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, we do.

• 23:40Speaker 00

  Our LeBron.

• 23:40Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah. Your assistant's the worst guy we got. Every single day he comes up to me, he's like, today's the day.

• 23:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:48Speaker 05

  It it's been it's been a different day and a different team every day this week.

• 23:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:52Speaker 05

  It it was Monday, today's the day signing with Miami. Today's the day signing with the Warriors. Today's the day signing with the, it's every day. It's something different.

• 24:00Speaker 03

  Okay, so what what is he waiting for? I was thinking about it today. I'm starting to think maybe the Warriors, the Steve Kerr video, and then also. I I get the feeling like they might be putting together a trade package.

• 24:17Speaker 05

  What?

• 24:18Speaker 03

  To get AD.

• 24:19Speaker 06

  Oh. I think you're right. I also think he wants the Cavs to trade for someone too.

• 24:26Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 24:27Speaker 06

  Like I saw a couple Kyrie reports, so I think he's just waiting for one of his guys to get traded to one of these teams.

• 24:32Speaker 05

  Or Tyrese Maxey, one of his guys. Already there.

• 24:36Speaker 03

  What do you mean? Oh, it's he's already got his guy.

• 24:38Speaker 05

  He's already got his guy.

• 24:39Speaker 03

  But I mean, he's he's said that he would love to play with.

• 24:42Speaker 05

  Tyrese Maxey.

• 24:43Speaker 03

  Maxey and AD. And I feel like now is when the Warriors are put together. They're trying to make that happen. The fact that I still go back to the Draymond Green.

• 24:51Speaker 05

  You could get a fleecing off of this, PFT.

• 24:53Speaker 03

  I could get a fleecing, it's true.

• 24:55Speaker 00

  Get a big time fleecing.

• 24:56Speaker 05

  Because they're desperate to get LeBron, that they do a fleecing to get AD to get LeBron.

• 25:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's true.

• 25:02Speaker 05

  You're a good, you're in a good spot.

• 25:03Speaker 00

  Get Bronny.

• 25:03Speaker 05

  DeWesler.

• 25:04Speaker 03

  I might, I might still want Bronny.

• 25:06Speaker 05

  Mm hmm. Yeah.

• 25:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, just for kicks.

• 25:09Speaker 06

  I saw he also wants Kevin Love.

• 25:11Speaker 03

  Really?

• 25:11Speaker 06

  Kevin Love is just in Utah.

• 25:12Speaker 05

  So D Wade's just gonna come back.

• 25:14Speaker 03

  Play last year?

• 25:15Speaker 00

  Uh, he was. Up and down, I think, I can't remember, I get my years mixed mixed up. I believe last year might have been the year his father passed away, so I think he was out for a while. Um, no, and he he was healthy again, because remember that clip of when the the Jazz were tanking, so they they basically were like, Kevin Love, we don't want you to play. Um, I think Kevin Love could still be, could still be a good. Player for 20 minutes a game. I believe in Kevin Love.

• 25:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's up throw that.

• 25:41Speaker 00

  I never stopped believing in Kevin Love.

• 25:42Speaker 03

  Um, we have another NBA news story here. I don't know. This came across your desk, big cat, but um, Stephen Che, friend of the pod, uh, brought this to my attention online. Did you see Jason Tatum?

• 25:54Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 25:54Speaker 03

  Last night?

• 25:55Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 25:55Speaker 03

  At the uh, was that the ESPY Awards?

• 25:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:58Speaker 03

  That he was at?

• 25:59Speaker 00

  He asked me if I cared that he was in an undershirt and I said, no.

• 26:02Speaker 03

  So here's, here's Chase tweet. Thanks for wearing your nicest undershirt to this black tie event, Jason Tatum. What a douche.

• 26:09Speaker 00

  It's the ESPYS.

• 26:11Speaker 03

  It's the ESPYS. It's literally the ESPYS. It's the black tie event in question is a made up award show that nobody watches.

• 26:17Speaker 00

  Does any, yeah, cause I was gonna say, maybe this is just me getting older. I don't know. And we've also, like the last few years, we've, we've done the home run derby during the S. I feel like I don't give a fuck. I feel like, like, like 15 years ago, the ESPYS kinda had a little pop.

• 26:31Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 26:32Speaker 00

  They don't have anything.

• 26:33Speaker 03

  No pop, zero pop.

• 26:34Speaker 00

  Zero pop. Nothing. Don't care at all.

• 26:37Speaker 03

  This black tie event. What a douche.

• 26:40Speaker 00

  What a douche. Well, I think it's also, it's hard because you, you have a, like, it's hard to give awards for something they already gave the awards for.

• 26:49Speaker 03

  Right.

• 26:50Speaker 00

  The Knicks already won the NBA title.

• 26:51Speaker 03

  It'll be like.

• 26:52Speaker 00

  They don't need an award for winning the NBA title. They won the NBA title.

• 26:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, it'll be like.

• 26:56Speaker 00

  Whoever won the MVP, won the MVP.

• 26:58Speaker 03

  Yeah. Best, best basketball team of the year.

• 27:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. It should just be.

• 27:02Speaker 03

  It's going to the Knicks.

• 27:03Speaker 00

  They should actually do a reverse ESPYS. That would actually get me interested. Just worst team of the year.

• 27:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:08Speaker 00

  That would be an interesting award show.

• 27:10Speaker 03

  It would be.

• 27:11Speaker 00

  We, by the way, we have the takeys coming next Friday. Just a reminder. Everyone get ready. Takeys.

• 27:17Speaker 03

  Um, and then, um, I also had one more thing.

• 27:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:20Speaker 03

  I think Ward Emanuel is about to get fired.

• 27:22Speaker 00

  Oh, why? What happened?

• 27:23Speaker 03

  The AD hit Michigan.

• 27:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know. I know.

• 27:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's a, they've leaked a few things to the media.

• 27:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:29Speaker 03

  Regarding the investigation and uh, in the things that they've leaked, they've squarely pointed their finger at Ward Emanuel and been like, Ward knew the entire time.

• 27:37Speaker 00

  He knew everything. Everyone knows everything when it comes to these colleges.

• 27:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, these leaks don't happen unless they're, they're, they're setting the narrative for why they're about to fire him.

• 27:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's, it's, it's hard for any big time uh, school to be like, we didn't know.

• 27:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:54Speaker 00

  It just, that's just not how it works.

• 27:57Speaker 00

  Zach, you still thinking about Messi and Ronaldo?

• 28:01Speaker 04

  I'm excited for the game. I'm looking forward to it.

• 28:03Speaker 00

  Can you root for Messi? It's over dude. It's over. Like, put your sword down.

• 28:08Speaker 04

  There's no weapons on me right now. My thought process was, this is a, this is a small piece of my thought process. I'm not saying it's the final thought process. Meanwhile, does have a lot of life left. If Messi does it again, just legacy wise for the sport, it would be, it would be something.

• 28:28Speaker 00

  Okay. That's just part of your thought process. That was well said. That wasn't your full thought process yet.

• 28:34Speaker 04

  No, no. I'm undecided, but like, at a certain point, you can't deny greatness.

• 28:39Speaker 03

  I mean, really, the, the only move that the real Messi haters have left is you have to just pretend that you were never Ronaldo fan. You're, you've always been Pele. And then you can-

• 28:50Speaker 00

  Or if Yamal wins, be like Yamal's actually-

• 28:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, next up.

• 28:54Speaker 04

  It was always Yamal, yeah.

• 28:55Speaker 03

  You can pull the move of, of pointing at Pele and then talking about how many World Cups he has.

• 29:00Speaker 00

  Three. Great chase.

• 29:01Speaker 04

  That would just be incredibly disingenuous. You'd have to live with that. You'd have to live with yourself in that, you know what I mean?

• 29:06Speaker 00

  Has your brother, has your brother been giving you any-

• 29:08Speaker 04

  Oh, I mean, yeah. Every time I'm on FaceTime, I'm just trying to see how his day's going. Hey, how's work? How's your day? And he's just like, Ronaldo's a bum. You see, you see the game? Messi did it again. Yeah, extra time. You see this? You, you'll never see Ronaldo make a cross like that. I'm like, alright Nick.

• 29:20Speaker 00

  No, that's actually true.

• 29:22Speaker 04

  I don't, listen, I'm not saying he doesn't bring up good points. It's just the first thing that comes up on like, hey, what's up dude? Love you, miss you. He's like, you gotta see this Messi's the goat.

• 29:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, he reminds me of every, I get a lot of gifs, you know? I get a lot of like, hey, don't forget. And my dad does it in family group chats.

• 29:37Speaker 00

  Oh, so you're getting it from every side. Then you come sitting here and we're just giving it to you.

• 29:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, you guys, maybe everybody's right. I don't know.

• 29:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, I appreciate you sticking with the take.

• 29:49Speaker 04

  Cause he is so good. We're all so good.

• 29:50Speaker 03

  But I can't, but I, here's the thing is I can tell, I can tell in this world cup that like you know, and you're having fun. You're actually, I think, I think he might be winning you over.

• 29:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:00Speaker 03

  You just don't want to turn your back on.

• 30:01Speaker 00

  Has I show speed said anything?

• 30:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's what it is.

• 30:03Speaker 04

  Uh, I'm not sure.

• 30:05Speaker 00

  Cause that talk about a bum.

• 30:08Speaker 04

  I think he said there's other, there's probably nothing wrong. I think he's probably the same sentiment. Yeah. It's undeniable. Some stuff is just undeniable. No matter what side of the fence you stand on, which way you're looking at it's like, all right, well, you always gotta give credit where credit's due.

• 30:19Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Okay, let's uh, let's do Mount Rushmore. Let's kick it to ourselves. Mount Rushmore of birds. And then we have Charles Barkley and Austin Reeves. We're gonna get right back to the show. Stella Blue Coffee's new can lattes are here. Crafted with 100% Colombian coffee. Each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors. Espresso Cafe Mocha and Espresso Sweet Cream. And whether you're braving your morning commute or chasing your pup, Stella Blue cans are for those always on the go and for those who care. Stella Blue is more than just great coffee. It's about giving back. I named the brand after my rescue dog Stella who inspired our mission to help more dogs find their forever homes. Every purchase supports animal rescue organizations. So when you drink Stella Blue,

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• 31:36Speaker 04

  Feeling okay. I think we continue to string those together. We could be okay.

• 31:38Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 31:39Speaker 03

  Right. Good, good.

• 31:39Speaker 00

  You string those together, you could be okay. Uh, also memes, how do you feel about leaving, being left out by the PGA superstore? That was very mean.

• 31:47Speaker 06

  Not great. That was, that was what, one of my suggestions that I brought up during, when we were talking about it.

• 31:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. So last, uh,

• 31:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. PGA superstore tagged Max and I in a tweet saying, hey, we got a place for you. It was a PGA superstore next to a Bass Pro Shop. Did not tag memes.

• 32:02Speaker 03

  Would you say that this is a good morale thing for your team for you to bring this up right now?

• 32:05Speaker 00

  I think it doesn't matter.

• 32:07Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 32:08Speaker 00

  All right. If I'm being totally honest.

• 32:09Speaker 03

  I would say maybe not the best for morale.

• 32:11Speaker 00

  Well, it's not, uh, we didn't do anything. I didn't.

• 32:14Speaker 06

  PGA superstore. I like.

• 32:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:16Speaker 00

  There you go.

• 32:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, there you go. Thanks, memes.

• 32:18Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 32:18Speaker 03

  I still came in last.

• 32:19Speaker 00

  We're doing the Mount Rushmore of birds and we did no Google.

• 32:25Speaker 03

  No Google.

• 32:25Speaker 00

  So.

• 32:26Speaker 03

  Free balling.

• 32:26Speaker 00

  It's gonna be, Zach already told me that he struggled to get 12 birds.

• 32:31Speaker 05

  Big catch. Should you go solo on this again since, since we've already set that precedent?

• 32:35Speaker 00

  Well, we already, we already kind of game planned together.

• 32:38Speaker 05

  We talked about it.

• 32:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:39Speaker 05

  That's true.

• 32:39Speaker 06

  I didn't give him any suggestions last time.

• 32:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. So, yeah, last time he went, we should have thought of that when we were, before we started.

• 32:46Speaker 05

  Mm hmm. Yeah, I was just looking at the room right now. I was like, it would make sense to just stay in the room, but.

• 32:51Speaker 06

  Yeah, you, you go solo.

• 32:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, you just go solo.

• 32:54Speaker 03

  We get solo trips?

• 32:56Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 32:56Speaker 00

  All right, fine. I'll go solo.

• 32:57Speaker 05

  I'll, I'll, I'll let you know my two cents, but you should go solo.

• 33:01Speaker 00

  Okay, I'll go solo. You guys chime in when you think that I should pick something, okay?

• 33:05Speaker 03

  What's, what is the order?

• 33:06Speaker 00

  That's fair. Or.

• 33:09Speaker 05

  First.

• 33:09Speaker 00

  We're up first.

• 33:10Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 33:11Speaker 00

  No, I'm up first.

• 33:12Speaker 05

  Big hat.

• 33:12Speaker 00

  You guys aren't doing this one. You're just gonna tell me which number I should.

• 33:15Speaker 03

  Big cats, one, one, and then is Zach two or am I two?

• 33:19Speaker 06

  You pick three when we pick one, so you're picking three.

• 33:21Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 33:22Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 33:22Speaker 00

  Um, should I go one, one?

• 33:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, clear one, one. It's good solo, good, good solo pick, but yeah.

• 33:28Speaker 00

  All right. Uh, Mount Rushmore of birds. I'm gonna start with the bald eagle.

• 33:33Speaker 03

  Good pick.

• 33:33Speaker 05

  It's a great pick.

• 33:34Speaker 00

  It's a very, very easy, just, just, I mean, it's America.

• 33:38Speaker 03

  Majestic.

• 33:39Speaker 00

  And it's also like one of those birds that, you know, do you guys, whenever I see a bald eagle, I, I, I am a little wowed.

• 33:45Speaker 05

  Have you seen one in, in the wild?

• 33:47Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, yeah.

• 33:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, don't fuck with it.

• 33:48Speaker 05

  I have.

• 33:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, no.

• 33:51Speaker 05

  I mean, look at that.

• 33:52Speaker 00

  It's a special moment when you see a bald eagle. You're like, oh, fuck, there's a bald eagle. There's not many birds that can showstop you like that.

• 33:58Speaker 03

  I, I grew up thinking that we were out of bald eagles and then at some point we got too many bald eagles.

• 34:03Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 34:03Speaker 03

  Like they're, they're overpopulating in some places.

• 34:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:05Speaker 05

  And they were endangered and then they.

• 34:07Speaker 03

  Then they fucked.

• 34:07Speaker 05

  Took that time to fuck. Yeah, a lot of fucking.

• 34:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. So shout out, uh, whoever got the bald eagles to hook up like that. Okay.

• 34:14Speaker 05

  All right. Hank and I would like to take.

• 34:16Speaker 00

  No, it's you. It's solos.

• 34:17Speaker 05

  Oh, I would like to take for our team, pterodactyl.

• 34:22Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 34:25Speaker 00

  This is where the no Google hurts us because I have no idea if that's a bird or not.

• 34:28Speaker 03

  Dinosaur.

• 34:29Speaker 05

  I believe that is a dinosaur.

• 34:31Speaker 03

  I think.

• 34:32Speaker 04

  So not, okay, so the wings and the, okay.

• 34:34Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 34:35Speaker 05

  Flying reptile is what Google.

• 34:37Speaker 04

  Okay, so not a bird, no worries.

• 34:39Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 34:39Speaker 04

  I did think it was, I wasn't trying to.

• 34:41Speaker 00

  I mean, it's a great pick, I just don't, I, I honestly.

• 34:44Speaker 04

  I didn't know, and I also couldn't look it up.

• 34:45Speaker 03

  We, if we could be honest for a second, the, the archaeologists don't know if they had feathers or not.

• 34:50Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 34:51Speaker 04

  I agree with that.

• 34:51Speaker 03

  They just found some bones.

• 34:52Speaker 05

  No, pterodactyls are not birds.

• 34:54Speaker 04

  Okay. So we'll pivot from that and we'll go with.

• 34:57Speaker 00

  Good pick, though.

• 34:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:58Speaker 00

  We should do.

• 34:59Speaker 05

  Would have been, would have been an awesome pick.

• 35:00Speaker 00

  We should do dinosaurs.

• 35:02Speaker 05

  Dinosaurs, that, that would be fun.

• 35:04Speaker 00

  That'd be a very fun one. I smelled the T-Rex's breath, Sue, at the Field Museum, real nasty, real nasty.

• 35:13Speaker 04

  All right, we're gonna go with an owl.

• 35:15Speaker 00

  What are you looking at me like that for?

• 35:17Speaker 05

  What does that mean?

• 35:17Speaker 00

  There's a, there's an exhibit at, Sue is the T-Rex at, uh, the Field Museum in Chicago, and there's a, uh, little portion where you can go up and you can smell what Sue's breath would have smelled like.

• 35:31Speaker 00

  It's foul.

• 35:32Speaker 05

  How would they have known that?

• 35:34Speaker 00

  I don't know, but I just, I went with it.

• 35:35Speaker 05

  They're, yeah, they're just guessing.

• 35:37Speaker 00

  They're just.

• 35:37Speaker 05

  They're just like, how can we make these little kids smell this?

• 35:40Speaker 00

  Yes, and my, my two sons smelled it, and they're like, Daddy, you gotta smell it, and I was like, I don't want to, like, you have to. And then I did, and I was like, ugh, and they're like, I'll do it again, I'd smelled it like seven times, sucked.

• 35:52Speaker 00

  Great museum, though.

• 35:53Speaker 03

  Uh, that's a great pick, though, Zach.

• 35:54Speaker 00

  Owl.

• 35:55Speaker 03

  Owl.

• 35:55Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 35:56Speaker 03

  Very good pick.

• 35:57Speaker 00

  Snow owl, barn owl, just owls.

• 35:59Speaker 04

  I'd rather take owls.

• 36:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay.

• 36:01Speaker 03

  I'll, I'll give you just owls.

• 36:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, you can just take owls, cool. The fact that they can rotate their neck is pretty fucking cool.

• 36:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:07Speaker 00

  Like, that's just, that's a cool thing the owls do.

• 36:09Speaker 04

  Incredibly nocturnal, and great at like hunting prey.

• 36:12Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. Who?

• 36:13Speaker 04

  Hunting prey.

• 36:14Speaker 03

  Who?

• 36:16Speaker 03

  Who?

• 36:17Speaker 00

  There we go, Max. I always love watching Max get it like five seconds.

• 36:21Speaker 05

  I wish my brain was just a little bit quicker.

• 36:23Speaker 00

  It's so good.

• 36:24Speaker 05

  It's just a little bit delayed of everyone else.

• 36:27Speaker 03

  That wasn't exactly like the head scratchingest joke.

• 36:29Speaker 00

  That was like four year old.

• 36:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, that was John Gruden does that joke.

• 36:33Speaker 05

  I thought what I thought hunting prey was a person that I didn't know about.

• 36:38Speaker 03

  Ah, okay.

• 36:38Speaker 05

  Cause Zach kept saying hunting prey and I was like, is that a famous, is that like a celebrity? I don't know. So I'm sorry.

• 36:44Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 36:44Speaker 05

  I apologize to all the listeners.

• 36:47Speaker 03

  All right, I'm going to go with um, one, one Larry Bird.

• 36:51Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 36:52Speaker 03

  Larry Bird. Uh, I think that's a, a, a pretty solid third pick. And then my second pick, I'm going to come back, I'm going to go Eagles and golf. Eagles parenthesis.

• 37:02Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 37:02Speaker 03

  Golf.

• 37:03Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 37:06Speaker 05

  We're going to take.

• 37:09Speaker 05

  Parrot.

• 37:09Speaker 03

  Oh. Good pick.

• 37:10Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 37:11Speaker 05

  Take and talk. They can.

• 37:13Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 37:14Speaker 00

  Um.

• 37:15Speaker 05

  Communication skills from a bird. You can fly and speak English.

• 37:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:18Speaker 05

  Hmm. Or Spanish.

• 37:19Speaker 00

  I'm going solo here, but I think, I think I go three and then, uh, the other, the, the person that memes threw out there. The first person memes threw out there.

• 37:28Speaker 05

  I think three would be strong. Don't think you need to put, put.

• 37:31Speaker 00

  Okay, the qualifier. Okay. And then do you like the first name person that, uh, memes threw out there?

• 37:38Speaker 05

  Eleven? Oh, wait. It, what number?

• 37:41Speaker 00

  Well, again, I'm going solo. Uh, it'd be 10, but it'd be the person.

• 37:45Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. Yeah.

• 37:46Speaker 00

  Okay, all right. So we're going to go, uh, Falcon.

• 37:50Speaker 03

  Good pick.

• 37:51Speaker 00

  The, I, I, I, we're going to take all Falcons, but the peregrine Falcon, that's just something that everyone knows because they're the fastest animal on earth.

• 37:58Speaker 05

  Mm hmm.

• 37:59Speaker 00

  So that's just like a fact that, that everyone knows. Um, and I, I, I'm guaranteeing because we didn't use Google that I spelled it wrong. Um, but either way, peregrine Falcon, but we're taking Falcon and then we're taking, uh, Tony Hawk.

• 38:13Speaker 03

  Good pick.

• 38:13Speaker 05

  It's a good pick.

• 38:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:14Speaker 03

  Great pick.

• 38:14Speaker 00

  Tony Hawk.

• 38:23Speaker 04

  We would like to take flamingo.

• 38:24Speaker 00

  Great pick.

• 38:25Speaker 05

  Great pick.

• 38:26Speaker 00

  Classic.

• 38:26Speaker 03

  That's a classic bird.

• 38:27Speaker 00

  It's a classic bird.

• 38:28Speaker 05

  I mean, Zach's just running the football right now.

• 38:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, good job, Zach.

• 38:31Speaker 05

  I like your, I like your draft.

• 38:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:32Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 38:33Speaker 04

  I respect you guys.

• 38:34Speaker 05

  It would be a real shame if, if Zach came in. Is, would this be your guys' first, first place?

• 38:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're so, we're still chasing the first. We'll get there one day.

• 38:41Speaker 05

  This would be, this would be a real shame.

• 38:43Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 38:44Speaker 03

  It'd be a real shame.

• 38:45Speaker 00

  The thing is though, it wouldn't bother Hank at all, but he doesn't.

• 38:49Speaker 00

  I think we said this, but Hank, Hank is fully, like, it took, whatever, nine years. For him to just finally admit that he sucks at Mount Rushmore.

• 38:57Speaker 03

  And, yeah, and he does.

• 38:58Speaker 00

  He said it in like a moment of like true honesty. Because in the, in years past, he has, he has tried to find any which way. To tell us how it's rigged, how it's not fair, blah, blah, blah.

• 39:10Speaker 05

  Do you remember the year that him and I were partners and then he went on vacation for a week and? I was in first in that week.

• 39:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:16Speaker 05

  And then I went on vacation for a week and then we came in last.

• 39:18Speaker 00

  Right. So he, I think he finally though, it took nine years, but he finally is like, hey, I might just suck at this. Yeah. Credit to him. Okay. PFC, you get your last two?

• 39:27Speaker 03

  We go big bird.

• 39:28Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 39:29Speaker 05

  It's a good pick.

• 39:30Speaker 03

  Taking big bird and then.

• 39:31Speaker 05

  On our list.

• 39:32Speaker 03

  And then, uh, last pick.

• 39:33Speaker 05

  Big cat's list, he's solo.

• 39:34Speaker 03

  I'm solo. I got one last pick, huh?

• 39:37Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 39:41Speaker 03

  I'm gonna go Nick Foles.

• 39:43Speaker 00

  Okay, so you picked zero birds.

• 39:45Speaker 03

  Big bird. Big bird is a bird.

• 39:48Speaker 03

  Big bird's a bird.

• 39:48Speaker 00

  Well, you have.

• 39:49Speaker 03

  Okay. I, I had bald eagle, I had falcon. The draft didn't shake out the way that I wanted. I also had hawk, but then you just took Tony Hawk and I can't, you can't put hawk next to Tony Hawk.

• 40:01Speaker 00

  No, no, that's a tough one.

• 40:02Speaker 03

  It's gonna be a bad look on the, on the thing. Can I change, can I change my last pick?

• 40:06Speaker 05

  Nope.

• 40:07Speaker 03

  All right.

• 40:09Speaker 00

  What was it? Nick Foles?

• 40:10Speaker 03

  Nick Foles.

• 40:11Speaker 05

  Nick Foles is a great pick.

• 40:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, go birds.

• 40:13Speaker 05

  Excellent pick. Go birds.

• 40:14Speaker 00

  I remember him as a Jaguar.

• 40:16Speaker 03

  I remember him as a.

• 40:17Speaker 05

  I remember him as a bear.

• 40:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 40:19Speaker 00

  Or a colt.

• 40:20Speaker 03

  Chief.

• 40:20Speaker 00

  Chief.

• 40:23Speaker 05

  Can't say I even remember those last two.

• 40:26Speaker 03

  Legend.

• 40:26Speaker 00

  He was a cult, right?

• 40:29Speaker 03

  Spiritually, yeah, I think so. Uh, no, Carson Wentz was a cult.

• 40:34Speaker 00

  Was Nick? No. Look at the picture.

• 40:36Speaker 05

  You Google Nick Foles.

• 40:40Speaker 00

  That's how we remember him. Nick Foles is a cult.

• 40:41Speaker 05

  That's how Google remembers him.

• 40:43Speaker 00

  Who, did we miss a team that he played for?

• 40:45Speaker 05

  The Rams, but.

• 40:46Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, the Rams. That's right. So he played, yeah, so Eagles, Rams, Chiefs, Eagles, Jaguars, Bears, Colt. Yeah, he was a perfect Colt.

• 40:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:58Speaker 00

  Where it's like, hey, we're gonna, we're gonna keep just trying to find old quarterbacks that were one point good.

• 41:02Speaker 03

  It was right in the thick of that. Yeah.

• 41:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right, Zach.

• 41:06Speaker 03

  Matt Ryan, you remember Matt Ryan on the Colts? That was something.

• 41:09Speaker 05

  What a time, special. Our fourth pick, we would like to take.

• 41:14Speaker 05

  We're gonna take ostrich for our fourth pick.

• 41:16Speaker 03

  Damn, that's a good pick.

• 41:17Speaker 00

  Okay, good pick. Um, all right, our fourth pick, I think it's a bird. I, we might have to Google it, uh, but we will take Penguin.

• 41:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:26Speaker 00

  Um, is that a bird?

• 41:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a bird.

• 41:29Speaker 00

  I, I don't, I don't know.

• 41:30Speaker 05

  Bird.

• 41:30Speaker 00

  You could tell me a bird, a Penguin is something totally different.

• 41:33Speaker 03

  I guess I didn't have Penguin.

• 41:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're birds.

• 41:35Speaker 03

  I was in the process of writing Penguin for honorable mention right now, and you took it.

• 41:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:40Speaker 00

  Penguins are pretty sick. I think I got confused. I got confused because we, I think at one point we were gonna try to take Penguins for aquatic animals.

• 41:49Speaker 03

  Which I think.

• 41:50Speaker 05

  Which also could have played. Yeah.

• 41:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, the duel. Okay, what did we miss? A lot.

• 41:55Speaker 03

  Uh, Pelican.

• 41:56Speaker 00

  Pelican. I think there's a classic three that we had our list that I don't know if they're Mount Rushmore, but they are in the category of, I will stop and be like, ooh, that's cool. Cardinal, Oriole, Blue Jay.

• 42:09Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 42:10Speaker 00

  All three, all three of those, if you see one in your backyard, you're like, oh, that's awesome.

• 42:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, Orioles are absolutely beautiful birds.

• 42:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:17Speaker 05

  I think hummingbirds play in that category.

• 42:18Speaker 00

  Oh, hummingbird, great fucking pick.

• 42:21Speaker 05

  When it comes to the feeder and they just kind of.

• 42:22Speaker 00

  Damn it.

• 42:23Speaker 05

  What are the, what are the ones that, is that a pecking bird? Woodpecker.

• 42:27Speaker 00

  Woodpecker. That's a good pick too.

• 42:30Speaker 03

  We missed so many good birds.

• 42:32Speaker 00

  My list is, is, I don't want, I don't want to influence the vote, but if I was voting.

• 42:38Speaker 03

  I would not vote for my own.

• 42:39Speaker 05

  You don't feel confident in your list?

• 42:41Speaker 03

  I mean, I, listen, here's, here's some birds that were still on the board that I didn't even write down.

• 42:45Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 42:45Speaker 03

  Woodpecker, didn't write it down. Hummingbird, the Danny Woodhead of birds, did not write that down. Penguin, did not write that down. Ostrich, didn't have that down.

• 42:53Speaker 05

  Raven?

• 42:53Speaker 03

  What am I doing?

• 42:54Speaker 05

  Raven, your birds can fly fifty.

• 42:56Speaker 00

  Vulture. Vultures are badass dude. They're, I mean, the, the bird of death.

• 43:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:02Speaker 00

  You know? They are badass.

• 43:04Speaker 03

  Very ugly birds.

• 43:05Speaker 05

  Vultures get graphic on the road though.

• 43:06Speaker 00

  We're not, we're not doing prettiest birds.

• 43:08Speaker 03

  No. Uh, albatross?

• 43:11Speaker 00

  Albatross, yeah.

• 43:12Speaker 03

  They can fly for like hundreds of miles over the, of the ocean.

• 43:15Speaker 00

  The only one that I was.

• 43:16Speaker 05

  Better than an eagle too.

• 43:17Speaker 00

  The only one that I was proud of, that I was able to come up with without.

• 43:20Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 43:21Speaker 00

  Oh, albatross, yeah. The only one I was proud of to come up with, uh, on my own was the, the magpie. Those birds in, uh, do you know the birds in Australia? They like attack bicyclists.

• 43:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 43:32Speaker 00

  So that was the only one where I was like, oh, I, I know my birds. This isn't just your generic Oriole Cardinal, Blue Jay. But that was where it stopped. I had nothing after magpie.

• 43:41Speaker 03

  What about the finches?

• 43:43Speaker 00

  Not too familiar with.

• 43:44Speaker 05

  Not familiar.

• 43:44Speaker 03

  Finches?

• 43:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:45Speaker 03

  Um, boobies?

• 43:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, boobies.

• 43:48Speaker 03

  Boobies.

• 43:49Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 43:49Speaker 03

  I missed boobies.

• 43:50Speaker 05

  I wrote that.

• 43:51Speaker 00

  You did write boobies. I just didn't think it was a real bird.

• 43:54Speaker 03

  Oh, it's a, yeah.

• 43:54Speaker 05

  Oh, boobies would look, that, that honestly could have gotten vetoed on a gra- that's just, that's just a fake graphic. You're just, you're just playing to the graphic.

• 44:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:03Speaker 03

  You know how boobies, when they try to fuck, when they're horny, they see each other and they start doing a little dance? They like move their feet and they do like, like the chorus line, leg kicks?

• 44:11Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:12Speaker 03

  And then the other booby looks at it and is like, that's a good looking booby.

• 44:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:15Speaker 05

  Oh, they have to court each other?

• 44:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:17Speaker 05

  That's pretty impressive.

• 44:17Speaker 00

  Oh, the blue, the blue foot boobies.

• 44:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:20Speaker 00

  Those are cool.

• 44:21Speaker 05

  And a red foot booby.

• 44:23Speaker 00

  We missed, uh, doves, swans.

• 44:27Speaker 03

  Swans.

• 44:27Speaker 05

  Swans are good.

• 44:28Speaker 00

  Swans are good.

• 44:29Speaker 03

  Swans are dickheads.

• 44:30Speaker 00

  Canadian geese would be the Mount Flushmore of birds.

• 44:32Speaker 03

  Canada geese.

• 44:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, those guys suck.

• 44:35Speaker 03

  Don't like, I, I would put, um, grackles on that list for the Mount Flushmore birds.

• 44:39Speaker 00

  I don't know what a grackle is.

• 44:40Speaker 03

  If you've lived in Texas and you've gone to a grocery store, the parking lot is just covered with grackles and they're assholes. Yeah.

• 44:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:47Speaker 05

  I think, uh, turkey or chicken, tasty picks.

• 44:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:49Speaker 05

  Still birds.

• 44:50Speaker 00

  Those are birds.

• 44:51Speaker 03

  I, god damn it.

• 44:53Speaker 00

  Um, what about?

• 44:54Speaker 03

  I, I'd like to, I, I think I'd like to forfeit. Out of principle. I was so bad today.

• 45:00Speaker 00

  You just went, you just, you just, you just went off course.

• 45:03Speaker 03

  I did. I got off course. I didn't get back on.

• 45:06Speaker 00

  The

• 45:07Speaker 03

  Happens.

• 45:07Speaker 00

  What is the, um, oh pigeons, pigeons, listen, I get it.

• 45:13Speaker 03

  No.

• 45:13Speaker 00

  Well, listen, we're doing honorable mentions. Let me make my case for pigeons. Pigeons are kind of like the, the rough and tough, like, like, uh, neighborhood guys. You know what I mean? They're like the Italians of birds.

• 45:25Speaker 03

  They're also

• 45:26Speaker 00

  Come over and you, you know, they're just eating out of the trash and they're kind of talking all weird and they're, they're, they're, they're men of the street.

• 45:32Speaker 03

  Johnny Gabagool.

• 45:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're Johnny Gabagool.

• 45:34Speaker 03

  They're pigeons are also not the smartest. They, they just get in the way.

• 45:38Speaker 00

  Are.

• 45:39Speaker 03

  Some would say it's pro-surveillance state.

• 45:41Speaker 00

  Let me make, oh yeah, that's true. Let me make a, uh, uh, my case for pigeons actually being the smartest. They've, they've essentially just over the years been like, hey, you know where we should live? Right where the people leave their trash.

• 45:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:54Speaker 00

  We don't have to hunt for anything. We don't have to go fucking diving for worms and fish and all that shit.

• 45:59Speaker 03

  That's smart.

• 45:59Speaker 00

  Some guy's gonna eat a calzone and not finish it and we're gonna, we're gonna finish it. So pigeons might be the smartest bird.

• 46:06Speaker 03

  There is one group of pigeons that I, I did have on the list. There was a, a world war two corps of pigeons that we used over in Europe. And instead of like doing like radio transmissions.

• 46:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:18Speaker 03

  They would, they would send pigeons flying back and forth with notes that would fly for like a hundred miles.

• 46:23Speaker 00

  That's pretty cool.

• 46:24Speaker 03

  Drop something off.

• 46:24Speaker 00

  Those smart.

• 46:25Speaker 03

  Those pigeons like are Medal of Honor winners.

• 46:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:28Speaker 03

  Harry Potter. Yeah, respect. The racing pigeons are pretty fun, too.

• 46:31Speaker 00

  Racing pigeons.

• 46:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 46:32Speaker 00

  My shout, Mike Tyson.

• 46:33Speaker 03

  Yeah. What about toucans?

• 46:34Speaker 00

  Toucans.

• 46:35Speaker 03

  Good pick.

• 46:36Speaker 00

  Great cereal.

• 46:36Speaker 03

  Yep. Parakeet.

• 46:38Speaker 00

  Fantastic. Yeah.

• 46:39Speaker 03

  Uh, not a, not a huge fan of parakeets.

• 46:41Speaker 00

  Alright. I'm not familiar much with parakeets and what they do. They, they're the ones that copy you.

• 46:45Speaker 03

  The ones that like pets. They're kind of like bright, small birds.

• 46:48Speaker 00

  What are the ones that copy you?

• 46:49Speaker 03

  That's parrots.

• 46:50Speaker 00

  Cockatoo. Parrots, parrots, parrots.

• 46:51Speaker 03

  And yeah, the African gray parrot.

• 46:53Speaker 00

  What do we think about, what do we think about seagulls?

• 46:56Speaker 03

  Fuck seagulls.

• 46:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm kind of off.

• 46:57Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, seagulls suck. Seagulls suck fucking ass. If you're on a beach and you're trying to do anything, they're so fucking annoying. I fuck seagulls. That's number one of Mount Flushmore.

• 47:07Speaker 03

  When I lived at the Jersey Shore, I put a.

• 47:09Speaker 05

  That's what I'm saying.

• 47:10Speaker 03

  I put a $500 bounty on catching a seagull with your bare hands. I'm not talking traps. I'm talking just, just chasing a seagull, grabbing it with your bare hands. If you can do it, 500 bucks.

• 47:20Speaker 05

  All you have to do is just start eating some french fries and they'll, and they'll just come into your fucking hands. They're the worst. Seagulls are the worst.

• 47:26Speaker 00

  We looked up a story on the Yak a few months ago of a guy who got arrested because a seagull went and took his like five year old daughter's french fries and he just snapped his neck.

• 47:36Speaker 05

  That, that seems like self-defense.

• 47:39Speaker 00

  I think he had some other shit going on, so it was got a little sideways.

• 47:43Speaker 05

  I'm, I'm not, I'm not getting into the story. Fuck that seagull.

• 47:46Speaker 00

  Let me just say this, if you, if a seagull takes a french fry and then your first action is to snap his neck, you might have some rage issues. Or maybe, maybe you're just.

• 47:56Speaker 05

  That's a fair assumption.

• 47:57Speaker 03

  You might just be trying to protect the rest of the beach.

• 47:59Speaker 00

  Yeah. What about the seagull though, that grabbed the hot dog at Wrigley? That, that guy was cool. The perfect shot that you, do you remember that photo that someone took in like April?

• 48:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:09Speaker 00

  It was just a seagull flying in the outfield with a hot dog in its mouth, like a perfectly untouched hot dog. That seagull's cool.

• 48:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, but he probably stole that, that hot dog from.

• 48:19Speaker 03

  Oh, but it's with Bun.

• 48:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's with Bun. It's a full untouched hot dog. That seagull, I can, I can fuck with that seagull.

• 48:26Speaker 05

  No, because that seagull stole that hot dog from someone.

• 48:28Speaker 03

  But he earned his hot dog.

• 48:29Speaker 00

  Pay for it, Max. Yeah.

• 48:30Speaker 05

  Don't eat, he can eat the scraps after the game's over.

• 48:34Speaker 03

  Max, respectfully, if you're dumb enough to get your hot dogs stolen by a bird, you deserve to not eat.

• 48:38Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. What if also it was just someone dropped the, I, I bet you someone dropped it.

• 48:42Speaker 05

  That, okay, that would be fair.

• 48:43Speaker 00

  And then he came in and he swooped it up. And it's also just the coolest photo, so.

• 48:47Speaker 05

  It is a cool photo.

• 48:48Speaker 03

  The, uh, the Auburn war eagle that flies around the stadium, that's a pretty cool bird.

• 48:52Speaker 00

  That's a cool bird. That's a really cool bird.

• 48:55Speaker 03

  Uh, the phoenix?

• 48:58Speaker 00

  Hot, hot, uh, hot British ladies?

• 49:01Speaker 05

  Yeah. Oh yeah, I said, I said Dee from Always Sunny.

• 49:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:06Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, bird. She's a bird. Sue Bird?

• 49:09Speaker 03

  Sue Bird?

• 49:10Speaker 00

  Oh, Brian Cardinal?

• 49:13Speaker 00

  Throwback.

• 49:14Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 49:15Speaker 00

  I'm trying to think of what other birds in sports.

• 49:20Speaker 03

  Lane Johnson also had him on the list.

• 49:22Speaker 00

  A.J. Hawk.

• 49:23Speaker 03

  A.J. Hawk would be a good one.

• 49:24Speaker 05

  Mm hmm. A.J. Brown.

• 49:27Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 49:27Speaker 00

  No longer.

• 49:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, but he said he was the greatest eagle of all time.

• 49:32Speaker 00

  That's true.

• 49:33Speaker 03

  The positivity bunny?

• 49:36Speaker 05

  Well, that would be a bunny.

• 49:37Speaker 03

  But it was a bird.

• 49:39Speaker 00

  Max, I bid on something that I don't think I'm gonna get, but I really was thinking about you.

• 49:44Speaker 05

  Don't tell me.

• 49:45Speaker 00

  Why? If in case I get it?

• 49:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 49:47Speaker 00

  I don't think I'm gonna get it.

• 49:48Speaker 05

  Alright.

• 49:50Speaker 00

  It was a signed placard from A.J. Brown's locker room after a game. It was the Donington Bones game.

• 49:59Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 50:02Speaker 00

  I hope I I I we haven't gotten any response, so.

• 50:04Speaker 05

  How it it's how do you know what from what game it is?

• 50:08Speaker 00

  It's like authenticated. It says Eagles Broncos.

• 50:10Speaker 05

  They change those after every game?

• 50:12Speaker 00

  I guess so.

• 50:13Speaker 03

  That's weird. They must change everything.

• 50:14Speaker 05

  Yeah. Maybe he requested a move?

• 50:17Speaker 00

  Maybe. Yeah, probably because Donington Bones.

• 50:19Speaker 05

  Donington Bones.

• 50:20Speaker 03

  He didn't want to sit next to Jalen anymore. Yeah.

• 50:21Speaker 00

  Did you guys win or lose that game?

• 50:24Speaker 00

  I actually don't remember. That was a game you and Hank got physical.

• 50:28Speaker 03

  I think they lost that game and then I think Denver looked like the very worst team in the league like the next week, right?

• 50:34Speaker 00

  Or no, did Denver go? Yeah, because they went over to Europe. Yeah.

• 50:38Speaker 03

  Somewhere over there. Yeah.

• 50:39Speaker 00

  Broncos Eagles. How many years ago was that? Yeah, you did lose that game. It was last year. Twenty one seventeen. Donington Bones.

• 50:47Speaker 03

  That was a tough game.

• 50:48Speaker 00

  That was a tough game for the whole. I can't wait for football.

• 50:51Speaker 05

  Football's so close.

• 50:52Speaker 00

  The boys getting physical in the cage.

• 50:54Speaker 03

  I I was just running through the depth chart yesterday. It's football so back.

• 50:58Speaker 00

  It's so back.

• 50:59Speaker 03

  So back. Um, D F fifteen eagle.

• 51:02Speaker 00

  That's a good bird.

• 51:03Speaker 03

  Hundred four and O lifetime record until recently.

• 51:06Speaker 00

  What about Birdman?

• 51:08Speaker 03

  Birdman, the rapper or Chris Anderson?

• 51:11Speaker 00

  Both.

• 51:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, both Birdmen.

• 51:12Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 51:13Speaker 05

  Good pick.

• 51:14Speaker 00

  Well, it wasn't a pick.

• 51:16Speaker 04

  Good on, as soon as I said I, yeah.

• 51:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, it would have been a good pick.

• 51:19Speaker 04

  Would have been a good pick.

• 51:19Speaker 00

  Been a good pick. It was not, we're thinking of so many things after the fact.

• 51:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:25Speaker 00

  I'm just, I, I'm just disgusted with myself.

• 51:27Speaker 04

  Duck a bird?

• 51:28Speaker 00

  Duck, yeah, yes, duck's a bird. Oh, man, why didn't we pick duck?

• 51:32Speaker 04

  My favorite, I didn't know if it was a bird, though.

• 51:34Speaker 00

  My favorite food in the world. What else would it be?

• 51:36Speaker 05

  Duck's so cute.

• 51:37Speaker 04

  I don't know, I thought it was, I thought duck was another pterodactyl.

• 51:39Speaker 05

  Duck walking across the street.

• 51:41Speaker 00

  Baby duck. By the way, I'll, I'll shout out the, uh, the documentary, it's on YouTube, Listers. It's these two dudes, uh, who, there's like an entire birder community that all they do is just try to go find as many birds as they can in a given year. Like, there's a competition every year, and these two guys, I think they're from St. Louis, uh, kind of like regular, just two brothers in their twenties are like, hey, we're just gonna become list, we're gonna become birders for an entire year, and they, they went on the hunt for, to, to, to see as many birds as they possibly could. It's cool.

• 52:14Speaker 03

  How many did they get?

• 52:15Speaker 00

  I think they got like a hundred and fifty or something. There's so many.

• 52:18Speaker 03

  There's too many birds.

• 52:19Speaker 00

  There's so many fucking birds. It's insane.

• 52:22Speaker 03

  See, I had, I had a couple other birds. What were they?

• 52:25Speaker 00

  I'm just gonna do a quick Google coolest birds. Let's see.

• 52:29Speaker 03

  Dodo? How do we feel about the dodo?

• 52:31Speaker 00

  Uh, idiot.

• 52:32Speaker 03

  R I P.

• 52:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, idiot. Alright, top twenty coolest birds.

• 52:36Speaker 03

  Emu.

• 52:37Speaker 00

  The Gurnee's Pitta. I don't even know, see, this is where it gets a little, it's like, there's too many birds. Blue Jay made the top twenty here. Kakapoo. Yeah, I'm, I'm out on birds now. There's just too many.

• 52:51Speaker 03

  What about the macaw? That's what, when you think of a parrot, I think people think of the macaw.

• 52:57Speaker 00

  I'm not, I'm not familiar with.

• 52:58Speaker 03

  It's like the Jimmy Buffett parrot. That's, that's the macaw.

• 53:00Speaker 00

  Okay, yeah, I like that guy.

• 53:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:03Speaker 00

  Uh, alright, good Mount Rushmore. Hank will be back on Monday.

• 53:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, full teams assembled Monday.

• 53:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, you, did you like doing a, you, you said you'd prefer to do it on your own.

• 53:14Speaker 04

  No, I like, I like the unity of teamwork.

• 53:15Speaker 05

  You also said that you think Hank is bringing you down.

• 53:18Speaker 04

  I didn't, you guys are, these are all false accusations. I think I can get Hank back in the spirits of Mount Rushmore.

• 53:24Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 53:24Speaker 05

  Oh, so you agree that he's not in the spirits of Mount Rushmore?

• 53:27Speaker 03

  Yep, that's what I heard.

• 53:29Speaker 04

  Well, you guys spoke a little bit earlier in the show about historically, he said he is not all the way in sometimes, or maybe he's not the best. So you're finding that yourself? I think he is all the way in.

• 53:37Speaker 03

  You're agreeing.

• 53:38Speaker 04

  Well, no, you're trying to get him back, you're trying to get him back in because you don't think that he's in right now. It's like double stuffed, it's like double stuffed Oreo, it's like he's back, he's double in.

• 53:45Speaker 03

  No, you can't, you can't be back if you weren't ever out. Like when Ronaldo scored two goals against Uzbekistan and he was like, I'm back, I'm back.

• 53:53Speaker 00

  Iconic moment.

• 53:54Speaker 04

  Double back.

• 53:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, he was back from what? From not being very good.

• 53:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 53:59Speaker 04

  Just on the world stage playing good footy.

• 54:01Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm, against Uzbekistan.

• 54:03Speaker 04

  Entire, an entire country. Sounds like a big deal to me.

• 54:08Speaker 03

  Uh, there's good, there's one other bird, the shoe bill. Do you guys, are you familiar with a shoe bill?

• 54:12Speaker 00

  Nope.

• 54:12Speaker 03

  That's the one that looks like a dinosaur. It's the one that's like five feet tall. Bring up a, a, a video of the shoe bill, Max.

• 54:18Speaker 00

  That's what you should have taken.

• 54:19Speaker 03

  Shoe bills. I mean, I, I just shat the bed entirely. I mean, this is a bird brain draft.

• 54:25Speaker 00

  Oh, that's a cool bird.

• 54:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:26Speaker 04

  This is an ugly looking bird.

• 54:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, these things are fucking crazy.

• 54:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, but it's cool. You don't see that very often.

• 54:31Speaker 04

  This is a cool picture. This picture's cool as fuck.

• 54:33Speaker 03

  Play a video of it if you can find a video.

• 54:35Speaker 00

  It's a badass bird.

• 54:38Speaker 00

  It's a really badass bird, shoe bills.

• 54:41Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 54:42Speaker 00

  They're just, what are they, where do they live?

• 54:46Speaker 03

  Hell.

• 54:47Speaker 00

  Okay. Yeah.

• 54:49Speaker 03

  If I see one of these things, I'm, I'm running.

• 54:51Speaker 00

  I could fuck that thing up so easily. What, what are you, what are you looking at me like that for, Zach?

• 54:56Speaker 04

  I just think that would be a challenge for anybody.

• 54:57Speaker 00

  I'd kick that thing so hard in the face.

• 54:59Speaker 04

  Look at that beak.

• 55:00Speaker 00

  Dude.

• 55:01Speaker 03

  I think.

• 55:01Speaker 04

  That's a weapon.

• 55:02Speaker 03

  If you want to fuck this thing up, just slide tackle.

• 55:04Speaker 00

  Look at him.

• 55:05Speaker 04

  Go for the legs?

• 55:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, just snap the.

• 55:07Speaker 00

  Cut him out at the legs.

• 55:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, end its career.

• 55:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay, uh, good Mount Rushmore, boys. Let's get to our interviews. We've got Charles Barkley. Before we do that, Tick Pick, brought to you by Tick Pick, the no nonsense ticket app. You know the runaround with the big ticket sites. Fees layered into the final cost and you're left wondering whether you're overpaid. By the way, uh, on Monday, I mentioned it, I'm going to be hosting the 50-50 raffle at the Cubs game. Go buy some tickets to Tick Pick. Get in on the 51-49 raffle, never been done. Tick Pick will get you into. Wrigley on Monday night and your tickets are backed by their buyer get trust guarantee 100% authentic and on time every order. Don't take my word for it. Fans genuinely love this app. Read the reviews and see for yourself. The Cubs are doing the 5149 raffle. Like I said,

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• 57:38Speaker 00

  Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest, recurring guest. Who's here? That's Charles Barkley. You're, I mean, listen, you're a very, very special guest. Appreciate it, brothers. Appreciate it. Looking forward.

• 57:49Speaker 07

  Had a good time last year. Glad to be back.

• 57:51Speaker 00

  We had a blast last year. So we're back at the American Century Championship. Um, let's start with that. How's the golf game feeling? I feel like you, you went from, there was that stretch where it was like, hey, if you want to go viral on the internet, you just post Charles Barkley's uh, tee box swing and now you're just, you're good.

• 58:09Speaker 07

  Well, I wouldn't say good. I'm, I'm playing well. Shout out to my coach, Stan Utley, who changed the whole dynamics of my golf game. Man, I love to play. You know, you can't stay in the house, especially during the summer. I love just walking, being out there. It's one of the few places you can go and get peace and quiet. You know, you meet a lot of crazy people who say stupid stuff to you like, why are you at the dry cleaning? Uh, cause I got clothes I need to be dry cleaned. They're like, why are you at the supermarket? Cause I need food to eat. They always act stupid stuff. Uh, I always laugh like, why are you at the supermarket? Cause they got food and stuff here. But golf, you got, you get to go out here. There's no fans around. You just go out there with three of your friends and just talk trash, smoke some stogies and that, that man's the best.

• 58:53Speaker 00

  Gamble on some golf? Yeah. Are you up or down this, this year gambling on golf?

• 59:00Speaker 07

  Oh, I'm probably down. Cause I, I bet like I'm, I'm a, I'm a, I think I'm a better, I bet like I'm a better player than I think I really am.

• 59:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 59:09Speaker 07

  And that's a problem.

• 59:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:12Speaker 07

  That's the thing about golf though, is you have to play to your handicap.

• 59:15Speaker 00

  Yup.

• 59:16Speaker 07

  And so I've got to do a better job of scoring. That's my problem, scoring. Uh, not getting up and down, making double bogeys instead of bogey, which is just golf. But I gotta do a better job of scoring.

• 59:31Speaker 00

  It's that one shot, you know, like on a par five where you're like, oh shit, if I hadn't hit my, you know, if I hadn't chipped and didn't get on, like I didn't get on the green, I chipped it 10 feet like.

• 59:40Speaker 07

  Yeah, well, and I think the main thing is when you're stupid like. Myself, you're hitting the trees and you'll try a damn trick shot to get out of there.

• 59:47Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. I've never seen a tree.

• 59:50Speaker 07

  I saw a guy try this on TV. He cut it out of the woods. Let me try it. Instead of chipping it back in the February like a, like a smart man. Hey, I saw this guy cut this shot out of the trees.

• 1:00:02Speaker 03

  Whenever you say, I've got a window, you never have a window. That should be a trigger, actually. If you hear yourself say, I think there's a window. No, absolutely not.

• 1:00:10Speaker 07

  You know, so there's probably nobody in the world watching more golf than me. And you're here with some of the guys say, oh, he's got a window. I'm like, what window? And then when I, then I get into trees, I'm like, I see that window they was talking about.

• 1:00:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. But last year, so we sat down and, and we talked last year and then you went out there and you played, I think, I don't know if that was the best round of your life. But you had an eagle on the front nine and you had, you put up a good score on the first day of tournament last year.

• 1:00:36Speaker 07

  I played, that was, I think it was my best round ever. Uh, the first round, but then the drinking and the gambling caught up with me. Cause I'm gonna drink and I'm gonna gamble. So my score is, I gotta figure out how to play better as I get drunker and gamble more the last couple of days. Cause the first day I'm good and then the late night gambling and drinking catches up with you.

• 1:01:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm actually putting together, I'm trying to do a study at Barstool Sports and I've got, I've got 10 people signed up for it. I'm trying to do actual science because we got a, we have indoor golf simulator at our place. And I'm trying to study the exact perfect right amount of drunk that you should be to play golf at your best because it's like, I think it's like three drinks.

• 1:01:24Speaker 07

  It ain't about being drunk, cause you, you don't normally play, I don't normally drink when I play golf. But there's a great line in the School of Rock when Jack Black is talking to the students. He says, I got a hangover. And one of the kids says, you're drunk? He said, no, I was drunk yesterday.

• 1:01:42Speaker 07

  So I'm not drunk when I'm playing, but because I was drinking and up all night gambling. You, you got, you'll get mentally and physically fatigued. Now, there's no way in hell I'm gonna go to bed and get a good night's sleep if I'm in Lake Tahoe. So I just gotta find a way to manage it better.

• 1:02:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, the casino's right there. They they put it right there for you.

• 1:02:05Speaker 00

  How'd you do last night?

• 1:02:06Speaker 07

  I broke even. Oh, yeah, that's a win. They were kicking me pretty good. I got on a roll, got back to even. Then like, you know, let me go get some rest. So I'm I'm I'm even. So that's a win.

• 1:02:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, you mentioned people just like, you know, seeing you in public and talking trash. How'd it go when you had to go down to San Antonio this year?

• 1:02:26Speaker 07

  They were great.

• 1:02:27Speaker 00

  Really? So was there any, because I I saw you, you know, there's a lot of people who are very friendly. I think most people understand that you what you're doing at the end of the day is you're having fun, making sports fun. Not being mean spirited, but were there any rogue like, hey, what the hell? Because there was some weird shit that happened between San Antonio and New York.

• 1:02:45Speaker 07

  Well, the people of San Antonio, they can take a joke. You know, I think people don't understand, we're on television from seven o'clock to two in the morning. Nobody want to talk about basketball, even me from seven to two in the morning. My my job, our job is to entertain the fans. I think we do a good job at that, but you know,

• 1:03:06Speaker 07

  that stuff I said, I it made people laugh, hopefully. But it's so funny now, man, everybody's offended by everything now. You know, there's a great line.

• 1:03:17Speaker 07

  In Ted Lasso, the the the the hot blonde chick says it.

• 1:03:25Speaker 07

  I think her name is Hannah Waddington. She says, oh, I know it. She was talking to Roy, I think, one time. And this is where a lot of people are. They don't know it. Like, oh, I know you. You're the guy who if we gave you a shit sandwich, you would want more shit sandwich. Some people just assholes. You have to let them like, okay, I get it. And some people just like, they always want to be offended about something. Instead of saying, hey, man, don't take yourself that serious. But I thought that was a great line. Some people just like shit. And I was like, no, no, no, I'm not gonna let y'all get on my nerves. If you can't take a joke, just shut the hell up and don't watch the show.

• 1:04:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, and then I I was watching that first game in San Antonio when they said, and now we're gonna bring on the mayor of San Antonio. And I was like, uh oh. But then she was cool with it, too. I feel like I feel like she was.

• 1:04:14Speaker 07

  And when people make fun of me, I can take a joke. Like, I don't even know what we got as a society where people can't joke anymore. I'm like, no, I I never want to be part of a world where people can't joke and have fun. I mean. We're actually talking about sports. Sports are great, but they're not really important. We're not like teachers or firemen or policemen or somebody like that or nurses or like those are like real important jobs.

• 1:04:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:38Speaker 07

  But if you can't take a joke watching sports, you shouldn't be watching sports.

• 1:04:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, I agree with that. There's actually some just came out right now, uh, from the, uh, from the NBA. So kind of curious to hear your reaction on that. It says the, uh, the Clippers Raptors trade that center on Kawhi Leonard will not be complete. Until the NBA investigation into the Clippers is over. So they, the, the trade might not happen now, depending on what, what they, uh, they find out.

• 1:05:05Speaker 07

  Well, the Clippers got busted.

• 1:05:07Speaker 03

  It looks like it, yeah.

• 1:05:08Speaker 07

  Clippers got busted. I'm not sure why they're dragging their feet. What's interesting is what is the proper penalty?

• 1:05:16Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:05:16Speaker 07

  Because you can't find the Clippers a, a million dollars or five million dollars because the guy's worth 20 billion dollars. Uh, so it seems to me like they probably gonna suspend Kawhi Leonard.

• 1:05:31Speaker 03

  I think he, I think Ballmer personally has to plant like 2,000 trees. That would be perfect, right?

• 1:05:37Speaker 00

  Shovel.

• 1:05:37Speaker 03

  Like, here you go.

• 1:05:38Speaker 07

  Hey, I'm a big Ballmer. I like him a lot, but they just got busted. And, uh, and all, and listen, a lot of teams do it. A lot of teams do stuff under the table.

• 1:05:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:50Speaker 07

  When I played for the Rockets, uh, they asked me to take no money for a year. So we could sign Scottie Pippen. Uh, and we did. Now, two things happened. Number one, Scottie Pippen didn't mind bringing Michael Jordan with him, but that was a bad thing. And secondly, the Rockets didn't pay me what they was supposed to pay me, so they screwed me out of money. But teams do that crap all the time.

• 1:06:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:19Speaker 07

  So they just got busted. Uh, listen, uh, Kawhi doesn't want to be there.

• 1:06:27Speaker 07

  Let him go to the Raptors where he won a championship and just keep him moving. But that's interesting that you said that because they just got busted cheating, plain and simple.

• 1:06:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think that like it's pretty clear what was going on.

• 1:06:39Speaker 07

  Hundred percent.

• 1:06:40Speaker 03

  And they just weren't careful about it.

• 1:06:41Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:06:42Speaker 03

  And you just better hope that if you're another NBA team, like if Pablo Torre calls, you do not answer the phone.

• 1:06:47Speaker 07

  Mm hmm.

• 1:06:47Speaker 03

  Just don't talk to that guy.

• 1:06:48Speaker 07

  Yeah, be careful.

• 1:06:49Speaker 03

  I'm never gonna, I'm done talking to Pablo Torre because I'm scared of what he'll do to me.

• 1:06:53Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:06:53Speaker 03

  Um, so you, you mentioned before we started, you're in Philly for the summer.

• 1:06:56Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:06:56Speaker 03

  Playing a lot of golf. Um, how many courses have given LeBron James a membership in hopes that he plays for the 76ers? Which I, I don't think personally, any of that's gonna happen. I don't think any of it's true.

• 1:07:07Speaker 07

  The right thing for LeBron do is to go back to Cleveland.

• 1:07:10Speaker 03

  That's what he's gonna do.

• 1:07:11Speaker 07

  You know, I tell people, I said, if he, the one big criticism of LeBron James has been he's stacked his teams to win championships. If he goes to the Warriors or the Sixers, it'd be to me, he'd be like trying to stack his team again. He has no affiliation with any of those teams. The only team he has an affiliation with where he's a legend is the Cleveland Cavaliers. That would be the right way to finish his career. That's just my opinion. Him chasing rings, trying to chase the ghost of Michael Jordan, going to the Warriors or going to the Sixers would be a bad look. He should go to Cleveland to finish his career. That would be a great finishing story.

• 1:07:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:47Speaker 07

  I agree.

• 1:07:47Speaker 03

  Were you, uh, were you shocked by the Jaylen Brown trade? Because I feel like it's still like, how, how is this what ended up happening with a guy who's a top 15 guy in the league?

• 1:07:56Speaker 07

  Uh, well, I think two things. I wasn't surprised he got traded.

• 1:08:00Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:08:00Speaker 07

  Because he was clearly gonna get traded.

• 1:08:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:02Speaker 07

  I was surprised he got traded to Philly. Because number one, you're in the same division. You're gonna be in the same playoff structure. So you gotta see that man a lot. But, um, and then it saved, it saves the Sixers franchise because they were dead in the water. Because Paul George is aging. Joel has not been able to stay healthy and they got both of those guys for another few years. Now, the happiest guy in the world should be Maxey.

• 1:08:27Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 1:08:28Speaker 07

  Because his career was gonna be in the toilet for the next few years because he's a hell of a player. But the Sixers were irrelevant and only gonna get worse. But now they, you know, I have zero idea who's gonna win the East right now. Uh, I'll tell you this, I think if LeBron go to Cleveland, I think they'll probably be favored in the East. But the Knicks are, the Knicks are regressing because they losing some players. The Celtics obviously regress. Sixers are gonna be better with Jalen. The Raptors, if they get that gun, they're gonna be better, but man, I got zero idea who the best team in the East is right now.

• 1:09:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, do you think, do you think the parody in the NBA is good for the NBA? That we had, what, eight different champions in the last eight years?

• 1:09:06Speaker 07

  I think it's great for the NBA. I thought this was great for the NBA that the Knicks won. I ain't gonna lie, man. It was, that atmosphere in New York was one of the most incre- the games three and four and game five in San Antonio, like, had to have 7,000 Knicks fans. That was crazy.

• 1:09:20Speaker 00

  Nuts.

• 1:09:20Speaker 07

  So, it was one of the most incredible things I've seen, those two games in New York. And I thought it was great for the NBA that the Knicks won.

• 1:09:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, we said when the, when the Thunder won last year, like, they might win three out of the next four. We already anointed them.

• 1:09:35Speaker 07

  Well, they, listen, you, they, if, if Jalen had have been healthy and AJ, that other kid, AJ, they probably would have won the championship this year. You know, they, they lost to a good Spurs team in seven without their second-best player, who's an All-Star. And then other kid, AJ, got hurt, so the, the, the, the Thunder are gonna be the team to beat for the next probably five to seven years.

• 1:09:58Speaker 00

  See, you're not saying that the, the Spurs are inevitable at this point. Because they, they did so much stupid stuff in the finals. Like, they're a great team, I think, and obviously.

• 1:10:07Speaker 07

  Well, they, they, they, they did not play well, and they gonna be right there. But listen, you gonna have to beat OKC and the, or the Spurs the next five to seven years if you gonna win the championship.

• 1:10:17Speaker 00

  Right, yeah. How was, how's the switch to ESPN been? Because last year, last year, we obviously were in the great unknown. You didn't know what was gonna happen. I feel like the start might have been a little rocky, but it, it felt like the show kinda got back to where it was towards the end.

• 1:10:30Speaker 07

  Yeah, you know, they were awesome. They didn't bother us all year. They were a, a fun to work with. And the really cool thing about it, to be honest with you, and Ernie talked about it, and I talked about it, it was really fun. And like, we got a perfect storm between New York and San Antonio. It was really cool to work the finals for the first time. And we got a great finals in, like I say, in New York and in San Antonio, two great fan bases. But it was. Really pretty cool. Uh, working the foundels for the first time. I mean, Ernie talked about that. It was pretty cool.

• 1:11:01Speaker 00

  What about the, the budget for like the, the food spread? When you guys have those long nights and you're working, you know?

• 1:11:06Speaker 07

  Oh, we, we just, we just.

• 1:11:07Speaker 00

  Same?

• 1:11:08Speaker 07

  No, our spread is always different. We all, we all order from a different restaurant.

• 1:11:13Speaker 00

  Okay, but they didn't like, they didn't cheap out on the, on like what you guys are able to expense, right?

• 1:11:19Speaker 07

  Well, we don't, they don't, that work like that. Like we got about 50 restaurants. And we order, Shaq orders something, I order something. And I'm all over the place. Sometimes I get Mexican, sometime I get Italian. Uh, sometimes I, I'll get a steak or Chinese. But we don't normally have a spread at work, to be honest with you. We just order from a restaurant.

• 1:11:40Speaker 00

  Who's paying for that?

• 1:11:41Speaker 07

  TNT.

• 1:11:42Speaker 00

  Okay, alright, okay, alright. So that's, that's staying the same. So you guys, but do you, so you usually don't order from the same place?

• 1:11:48Speaker 07

  No, we don't. We got all different. And, and we, uh, and well, cause we all eat at different times. I, I like to eat later. Like I like to eat at probably eight, eight 30. Cause I don't want to eat again at midnight or one or two in the morning. Uh, me and, me and Shaq probably the two latest eater. Ernie, Ernie goes in like three o'clock in the afternoon or earlier. So he likes to eat around six. And we don't show up to six 30. Uh, me, Shaq and Kenny.

• 1:12:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:12:15Speaker 07

  So, and I like to do the show the hour pre-game. Before I order. Like I said, I don't want to eat. At midnight.

• 1:12:25Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:12:25Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:12:26Speaker 00

  I had a question about, uh, the show with Draymond.

• 1:12:29Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:12:29Speaker 00

  So that clip that went viral this year. I actually said right after when we did our show, I was like, this is actually awesome for Charles. Because you played it so perfectly where you just sat there. He was kinda talking out of his ass. We liked Draymond. We had him on a few months ago. He's kinda talking out of his ass. And then the reaction online is. People don't remember how good Charles Barkley was. And it was like, almost like everyone's like, hey. This guy was way better than anyone. It's like, he, he, he's done a bad job of helping his own legacy by being so funny. And you know, you make fun of yourself, but he was fucking awesome.

• 1:13:04Speaker 07

  What was interesting about it.

• 1:13:07Speaker 07

  I didn't pay it that much of attention.

• 1:13:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. You should have, cause they were glazing you.

• 1:13:11Speaker 07

  No, so, so we go to the little dive bar. After work all the time. Called a pub. Stays open about three, four in the morning. Cause we, we're a little jacked when you get off television. So we always go to the pub and Draymond. With me that night and then I always catch like a seven o'clock flight back to Phoenix. And so I'm not even paying attention to it because I don't do the internet. I don't do any of that shit. So I fly and I land and I got a hundred messages. I'm like, what? Somebody got traded or something? And then it was about the Draymond stuff and I was like, I never even gave that a second thought.

• 1:13:51Speaker 07

  But I was really surprised how many people went after Draymond and defended me. It's man, I I'm not sensitive at all. Cause I say stuff about players. I hope they're not sensitive because if I say it, I I believe it. That don't mean I'm always right. So that didn't even faze me whatsoever. I mean, I can take, I can take it as much as I can dish it out.

• 1:14:13Speaker 03

  Yeah. So yeah. So you went, you went out to the drinks with Draymond after that.

• 1:14:17Speaker 07

  Yeah, it didn't, didn't, didn't.

• 1:14:18Speaker 03

  He probably knew though, because he is online. He's like looking at.

• 1:14:22Speaker 07

  Well, we were too busy drinking tequila to worry about online at that point.

• 1:14:25Speaker 03

  That's good. That's good. Sometimes I think that Draymond does shit so he can talk about it on his podcast.

• 1:14:29Speaker 07

  Uh, probably.

• 1:14:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, he sets himself up. Yeah, it gives him, it gives him like a little ratings boost because people are like, oh, I want to hear what Draymond said about getting kicked out of that game.

• 1:14:36Speaker 07

  Yeah, I, I don't, but I could say, man, I don't, I'm, I'm never gonna be sensitive.

• 1:14:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:14:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, you should, you should have gone online that day though, because it was crazy. The highlights, they, you know, people had highlight packages, numbers, everything.

• 1:14:50Speaker 07

  Draymond is a good player. I was a great player. I don't, I don't go back and forth. Trying to defend, I like, he's a, he's a very good player, but we're not on the same level.

• 1:15:00Speaker 03

  Right. Yeah.

• 1:15:01Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:15:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's like the old bus driver thing that you guys talk about. He was driving the bus.

• 1:15:05Speaker 03

  It would have been, if you had seen what people were saying, it would have been a little bit like attending your own funeral because that's how nice people were saying.

• 1:15:11Speaker 00

  It was awesome.

• 1:15:11Speaker 03

  I know you don't go to funerals. I, I, I heard you say that.

• 1:15:14Speaker 07

  Weddings are funerals.

• 1:15:15Speaker 03

  So, but no funerals ever? Like, you have to go to some funerals.

• 1:15:20Speaker 07

  If somebody is really special, I'll make an exception. Well, I'm just not gonna go to somebody who was a casual friend of mine's funeral. They don't know I'm there, they're dead.

• 1:15:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's a fact. So all your friends know this, like, hey, there's a good chance I'm not going to your funeral.

• 1:15:34Speaker 07

  They, and they won't know it though.

• 1:15:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, what if they try to trick you though and do a fake death thing? Where the hell's Chuck?

• 1:15:40Speaker 07

  No, that's just not my thing, man. I don't wanna see, if, like, if somebody's special to me, I will go. But I don't really wanna go and see somebody who I liked, the last time I saw him was dead.

• 1:15:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:15:52Speaker 07

  Period.

• 1:15:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, what about, so you, you were probably one of the only people in the country who got invited to Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's wedding and decided not to go?

• 1:16:00Speaker 07

  I don't go to weddings. I love Travis. Him and Jason are great friends of mine. I got a lot of love and respect for them. I've only met Taylor one time. She's an awesome person that's from a distance. And I'm happy for them, but like, nah, I didn't wanna, I didn't, like, nah, I'm gonna politely decline.

• 1:16:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:18Speaker 07

  Cause I love both of those guys, Jason and Travis, uh, a lot. I like, I got a lot of love and respect for them, but like, nah, I'm not going to the zoo.

• 1:16:25Speaker 00

  So you just don't go to weddings?

• 1:16:27Speaker 07

  I do not.

• 1:16:27Speaker 00

  What, is there a reason for that? Cause that's the opposite of a funeral.

• 1:16:31Speaker 07

  That's the bride's special day, let her, let her enjoy herself.

• 1:16:34Speaker 00

  That's actually huge of you.

• 1:16:38Speaker 07

  That's your special day.

• 1:16:39Speaker 00

  What if the bride's only wish is to have Charles Barkley at her wedding?

• 1:16:42Speaker 07

  She need to get some, a life.

• 1:16:45Speaker 07

  She need to get a life.

• 1:16:46Speaker 03

  Is it, is it about?

• 1:16:47Speaker 00

  I didn't know, by the way, I love this, I, I, I'm, think I'm gonna adopt, I didn't know you could do that. I didn't know you could just be like, yeah, I don't go to funerals.

• 1:16:53Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:16:53Speaker 00

  I'm gonna start doing that. It's like, I don't go to them.

• 1:16:55Speaker 07

  Especially my age, I'm going, a lot of my friends are dropping dead, so I be busy all the time.

• 1:16:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, with, with the funerals are more about like, you, you don't wanna travel for it? Cause I understand that.

• 1:17:04Speaker 07

  No, not traveling, I know. I just like, I don't wanna see somebody I really, really liked dead last time.

• 1:17:10Speaker 03

  No, before a wedding, for a wedding.

• 1:17:12Speaker 07

  I just like, that's the bride's special day. I want her to have all the shine.

• 1:17:16Speaker 03

  I've always wondered this, uh, Charles, because you are, you've been so big in the media for so long that there's, everyone thinks that they've got a Charles Barkley impression, and most of them suck. Most of them are really bad. Do you, do you pay attention to any of the Charles Barkley impressions?

• 1:17:29Speaker 07

  Yeah, people send me all the time. The only problem I have with it, uh, not impression, is every short, bald, fat, black guy walks up to me all the time, talking about how they look like me.

• 1:17:41Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:17:42Speaker 07

  It drives me nuts.

• 1:17:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:17:43Speaker 07

  And first of all, they're all those short fuckers.

• 1:17:46Speaker 07

  And other than being bald and light skinned, you look nothing like me. But every now and then I meet somebody who look like me.

• 1:17:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:17:55Speaker 07

  Oh, I'll tell you a funny story about the impression thing. My agent called me, it's probably forty years ago now. No, I'm probably thirty, thirty somewhere. He says, hey, John Madden is looking for you. I said, oh, my God. He's, can I give me your number? I said, of course, you can give John Madden my number. Because, you know, he says, you don't let anybody give anybody your number. I said, yeah, losers. But he's John Madden. So John Madden says, Mr. Barclay? I said, hey, Mr., it's such an honor and thank you for leading the example of the media and blah, blah, blah. He says, all right, thank you, thank you. He says, hey, you know this guy Frank Caliendo? I said, yes, sir. He lives, I said, one of my neighbors. What an asshole.

• 1:18:38Speaker 07

  I want to put a stop to him doing impersonations of me. And I'm trying to get some of the other celebrities he do to like, settle him to stop. And I'm like, what? He says, we need to stop. I says, first of all, I think Frank is great. And he's, and I said, first of all, I think it's an honor for somebody to do that. And I says, Mr. Madden, I understand where you're coming from. You might not like it, but I think it's, I think he does a great job on me and you and all the other people. All right, sorry I wasted your time. I'm like, I think I just pissed off John Madden. But Frank does a fabulous job with his impersonations.

• 1:19:22Speaker 07

  And I, I always considered flattering.

• 1:19:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, I thought you were going to say that it was Frank Caliendo calling you up, doing an impression of John Madden.

• 1:19:28Speaker 07

  Might have been. No, no, no. But I was laughing, I was like, man, somebody do an impression of you, you should take it like as an honor.

• 1:19:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, that means you have an iconic voice, like, or, you know, affect, whatever you do.

• 1:19:39Speaker 07

  Hundred percent.

• 1:19:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. Where are you at with MJ? You guys going to reconcile?

• 1:19:44Speaker 07

  Yeah, we are.

• 1:19:45Speaker 00

  Oh, okay, nice. Because I actually was, our mutual friend, Waddle and Sylvia, go on their show every week. And they actually asked me this last week randomly, and I was like, I don't know.

• 1:19:53Speaker 07

  Yeah, so one of my, one of my friends who's here, I was sitting at the house a couple of months ago. And his name popped up and I said, what's up, motherfucker? That's why we talked to each other. He said, no, motherfucker, it's MJ. And they were playing golf together. And we said, I said, oh, man, how you doing? I hope you're doing great, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we're like, yo, man, let's let this bullshit go. We were, we were great friends, brothers for a long time. And both of us being selfish and stupid. And I said, yeah, we are. We're both selfish and stupid and stubborn more than anything. He says, hey, man, as soon as basketball is over, come down to my golf course and let's play. And I said, man, I'd be honored to, you know, I miss your friendship. And he said, I miss your friendship. So we like, soon as, he's out of the country right now.

• 1:20:37Speaker 07

  Uh, but as soon as we get a chance, we're gonna get together. I'm gonna go down to this golf course and play with him for a couple of days.

• 1:20:41Speaker 00

  That's awesome. Because I mean, it feels like too, especially you guys both love golf so much like those, there's years and years of history between the two of you. And that's a friendship. I would imagine there's not a lot of people who can give MJ shit like you could probably give him shit.

• 1:20:54Speaker 07

  Hundred percent.

• 1:20:55Speaker 00

  You know what I mean? Like, he doesn't have a lot of people who are gonna probably give it to him the way that he gives it to other people.

• 1:21:00Speaker 07

  Hundred percent. And I'm definitely gonna do that.

• 1:21:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, so he needs you in his life.

• 1:21:03Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:21:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:04Speaker 07

  And I, it is, and I miss his friendship too. I'm looking, looking forward to, to reconnecting.

• 1:21:08Speaker 00

  What if he, who, who usually wins when you guys play golf?

• 1:21:11Speaker 07

  Well, he wouldn't, he quit playing with me when I had the yips. Uh, so we haven't played together. He's a better golfer than me, but I'm really looking forward to putting my game up against him.

• 1:21:22Speaker 00

  Wait, he stopped playing with you when you had the yips?

• 1:21:24Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:21:25Speaker 00

  He's like, I'm done playing with you?

• 1:21:26Speaker 07

  This is not fun for me to watch.

• 1:21:30Speaker 07

  But he did, he said, I'm not playing with you anymore. You gotta play with the group behind me. And, uh, but, but now I don't have the yips anymore. I'm looking forward to playing with him because I think I can compete.

• 1:21:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:39Speaker 03

  So what, what's your handicap at now?

• 1:21:41Speaker 07

  Ten.

• 1:21:41Speaker 00

  Oh, that's real good.

• 1:21:43Speaker 03

  And what's he at?

• 1:21:44Speaker 07

  I don't know. We haven't played together. We didn't, we didn't speak for like 12 years, so I don't know what he had. But he, you know, he gotta be a good player. If you're gonna be on your own golf course, you should be a good player.

• 1:21:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's true. You don't really have an excuse if you have your own golf course.

• 1:21:56Speaker 03

  Built it to match your own game.

• 1:21:57Speaker 07

  You shouldn't be a shit chef if you got, if you got your own restaurant.

• 1:22:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:22:00Speaker 03

  True. I, maybe I just, maybe I'm forgetting, but what was the start of that, the whole riff? That, because it sounds like it's something that you guys are, are looking at with the right perspective right now. Where it's like, okay, let's move on.

• 1:22:09Speaker 07

  Well, I said that he was never gonna be good at his job, running a team because he didn't, he had a bunch of kiss asses around him.

• 1:22:17Speaker 03

  And how do you think that turned out?

• 1:22:20Speaker 07

  Well, after he cursed me out, we didn't talk for 12 years.

• 1:22:25Speaker 00

  Now we're back.

• 1:22:25Speaker 03

  You might not have been wrong.

• 1:22:26Speaker 00

  Now we're back. We don't want to, listen, it made some progress, we're not gonna try to go backwards here.

• 1:22:31Speaker 03

  I'm not gonna get invited to play.

• 1:22:32Speaker 00

  Imagine if we're the clip that makes it so you guys don't play golf?

• 1:22:35Speaker 03

  It's great, though. I'm glad that you guys are smoothing things out. I hope that you, I hope you go out and play really well this year. I want to see, I want to see Charles in contention.

• 1:22:44Speaker 07

  Hey, man, I'm gonna play well. You know what's crazy about this tournament? This is the only place in the country that's not hot as hell. It's like, I started looking at the weather last week. It was like 115 in Phoenix and like 100 and some in Philly. And I was like, damn, Tahoe's like 10 days away. And I pulled up the weather report and like, yo, man, how in the hell is it hot every single place in the country except Lake Tahoe every year?

• 1:23:11Speaker 00

  It's incredible.

• 1:23:12Speaker 07

  It's incredible.

• 1:23:12Speaker 00

  This place is like, it's heaven. You just wake up, it's 60 degree, you put a sweatshirt on, then by like 9 o'clock, you can be shorts, t-shirt.

• 1:23:19Speaker 07

  If I wasn't a gambling degenerate, I literally wouldn't move here.

• 1:23:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think guys like us can't be living that close to a casino.

• 1:23:26Speaker 07

  I can't live this close to a casino.

• 1:23:27Speaker 00

  No, you cannot.

• 1:23:28Speaker 07

  But if I, listen, I really, I like for that, because you get, man, it's so hot everywhere. If I wasn't a gambling degenerate, I really would actually buy a place here.

• 1:23:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, and it is.

• 1:23:40Speaker 07

  Because I get out, I live in Philly all summer because it's too hot to be in Arizona. But literally, I tell people, if I was not a gambler, I would literally buy me a place here.

• 1:23:51Speaker 03

  It's beautiful.

• 1:23:51Speaker 00

  It's beautiful. All right, I know you gotta get, you gotta get going in a second.

• 1:23:54Speaker 07

  Yeah, I gotta go get loose.

• 1:23:55Speaker 00

  We got one last question, Roback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com, promo code TAKE, 20% off your first purchase, Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback dot com, promo code TAKE. Chuck, thank you always for doing this. We love having you on. It's honestly a thrill. All right, Zach, this is Zach.

• 1:24:12Speaker 04

  How we doing today, sir? A quick question for you. I know in 96, when everybody was filming Space Jam, they built like a bubble facility, almost a practice facility, for maybe some guys to get some runs in. I was just curious if you took part in those runs while they were recording the movie?

• 1:24:26Speaker 07

  Yeah, you know, that's when MJ was at the peak of his superpowers. And he had, we were really close back then. He was like, and nobody works out harder than Michael.

• 1:24:39Speaker 07

  And this is when he ran the world. He was like the most popular player and I mean, it was amazing. And he would not go without working out. He said, I'm not going to shoot the movie because I can't take those days to work out. And they built him a gym. It was one of the most incredible things. They built him a gym, a full-length basketball court, a stands. We had probably 3,000 people packed a night. Well, he could work out in the morning, film, then we would scrimmage at night. But he was so popular, they built him a full-length basketball court gym with stands. And there's so many players like Reggie

• 1:25:23Speaker 07

  Miller was still in college, I think, at the time he came out. And there's probably another 20 NBA players. But he would work out in the morning, film all day, then we would scrimmage. And it'd be like 3,000 people. It was one of the most incredible things I've seen. So, yes, that was amazing. I remember because we had also because you had Patrick Ewing and Sean Bradley and Muggsy Bogues and Larry, I think, all, we were all in the movie. But then all these college kids and NBA players came. It was incredible. So, yes.

• 1:25:56Speaker 00

  Nice. Good question. You got a follow-up real quick?

• 1:25:58Speaker 04

  A follow-up. We have had some like blockbuster trades here recently. And Leo Yan is going down to the Heat. We got Jalen going to the Sixers. New York Knicks, they did win the cup and the chip. Could we get like an extremely early NBA champion prediction from you today?

• 1:26:11Speaker 07

  Wow. Well, if you look at the West, it's going to be Spurs or Oklahoma City. They're going to be battling for the next 10 years. The East, with Brown going to Philly, Kawhi maybe going to Raptors, the Knicks already lost Mitchell Robinson, and probably going to lose another couple of players.

• 1:26:38Speaker 03

  Wizards got better?

• 1:26:40Speaker 07

  Who? The Wizards, we don't know if Anthony Davis and Trey Young and the bomb stuff like, I got zero idea who gonna win the East like, because like I say, I don't know how healthy Joel Embiid's gonna be. Like if, if Embiid is healthy, which he's never been, you take Maxey, Edge Calm, Jalen Brown. If Embiid can play at a, an elite or an all-star level, the Sixers might be the team to beat in the East. So it's too early because I gotta wait and see. I love Kawhi Leonard and, and,

• 1:27:22Speaker 03

  Scotty Barnes.

• 1:27:23Speaker 07

  Scotty Barnes. I've been saying for the last three or four years, Scotty Barnes is the most underrated player in the NBA. He's, he's great. We just don't ever show the Raptors. But man, the East is gonna be interesting.

• 1:27:32Speaker 03

  Let's not forget about the Pacers either. They were just in the,

• 1:27:35Speaker 07

  Yo, and Pacers, I forgot. You're right. They got that big boy from LA. Uh, who come, uh, it was, it, it, Yvonne Zubaz.

• 1:27:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:27:44Speaker 07

  And you got, uh, they're gonna get Halliburton back. You know, everybody, uh, uh, that kid from Canada, forget his name. The small forwards, Siakam.

• 1:27:54Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:27:55Speaker 07

  Man, the East gonna, I think honestly, you could say the East is probably better than the West right now.

• 1:28:02Speaker 03

  Deeper. Yeah.

• 1:28:03Speaker 07

  Yes. So I wish I could give, but I'm saying everything going through San Antonio and Oklahoma City the next few years. But man, the East, I gotta see what happens before I can even, even make an educated guess who gonna win the East.

• 1:28:16Speaker 03

  All right. Yes, sir. Thank you for your time. Good job, Zach.

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• 1:30:21Speaker 00

  Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is Austin Reeves from the Los Angeles Lakers. Oh, I should say one time NBA Cup champion, Austin Reeves from the Los Angeles Lakers. We're here at the American Century Championship. Austin, I think you know what the first question is going to be because we're, I think a week out from you signing your new deal, 185 million. We saw the picture, you're on the golf course. My question is, how did the rest of the round go? Because I feel like when you find out that you signed for 185 million, you probably can't think about much else, especially golf when you're out there. So the good thing was, is I had played 18 earlier that morning. I went and ate dinner with my mom and the

• 1:31:04Speaker 05

  Lunch with my mom and then went back and I was playing. Me and my dad were just messing around playing from the Reds and we were on nine, but we started on the back. So we were on 18. So I didn't have to, uh, you know, play thinking about it. Uh, and that picture was actually a little bit before I decided, uh, that I was resigning. It was when I got the offer from the Lakers. Um, and it was just obviously a, a breath of fresh air.

• 1:31:26Speaker 00

  Yeah. So, so how did the process work? Cause I know the, the Pistons were involved too. So was it like, were you just deciding between where you wanted to go? You, you kind of knew that it was going to be a lot of money no matter what?

• 1:31:36Speaker 05

  Yeah. I mean, I always knew I wanted to go back to LA. Um, that was the main thing from, you know, day one was, uh, being back in LA. It's basically my home away from home. Uh, I enjoy the good weather year round golf. Uh, so getting back there was the most important thing. And, uh, you know,

• 1:31:55Speaker 05

  people say that there was other moves to be made out there. I don't know about any of that. So, um, you know, LA is where I wanted to be the whole time.

• 1:32:03Speaker 00

  Would you have resigned with the Lakers if you had known that they were going to only sign white guys? Because you kind of aren't, you're not special anymore. You aren't. You aren't.

• 1:32:15Speaker 05

  It's actually crazy. We were joking about it last year that, uh, my first couple of years I was the only white guy on the team. And now I think we have like six or seven. So it might be, uh, but no, it's, it's crazy. But I mean, at the end of the day, it's all about, it's all about who can hoop. And, uh, you know, I feel like we've got, you know, some guys that could really play.

• 1:32:32Speaker 03

  Yeah. That was a massively loud alarm that just went off. That's, that's Zach. Zach, why is your alarm going off at 1:02 PM?

• 1:32:40Speaker 00

  Talk in the mic. Talk in the mic. Talk in the mic.

• 1:32:43Speaker 03

  That's the loudest alarm ever.

• 1:32:45Speaker 04

  Everything's off. We're good to go. I apologize for any kind of interruption right there.

• 1:32:48Speaker 03

  Yeah. Just curious. Why was it off?

• 1:32:51Speaker 04

  I just run through the page at nighttime. I made it ran a little bit too late. It will never happen again.

• 1:32:57Speaker 05

  I'm about to go settle. Alarm after this, I didn't sleep much last night.

• 1:33:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was a good alarm. So has the, has the money hit your account?

• 1:33:04Speaker 05

  Uh, no, so I actually, I technically haven't even signed yet, uh, because of, honestly, I couldn't even tell you what all the like, it's like a cap hold and all this stuff that, that, um,

• 1:33:14Speaker 03

  So you're still listening to offers is what I'm hearing.

• 1:33:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, it gives the Lakers more cap space to make moves. Uh, so I'll be, I'll technically be the last person to sign when everybody else signs. So, um, no, the money hasn't hit and it probably won't hit until August or something, but, uh, you know, we've done pretty well the last couple of years. So.

• 1:33:33Speaker 03

  That is very cool. Congratulations. That's, that's awesome. Like I know that you bet on yourself and you know, you, you took some chances. There were some parts of your career along the way, might not ever think that you'd get here, or maybe you did. I don't know. Did you, did you have doubts that maybe you won't ever reach this level?

• 1:33:48Speaker 05

  Uh, when it come to basketball, no, but I just didn't think that I was going to get the opportunity. Uh, you know, I was at Oklahoma, um, you know, my junior and senior year and I was, uh, I think honorable mention, uh, all big 12 team, uh, my first year and then first, um, first team all big 12 my second year. And it was still like, you know, I was on, you know, draft boards, but late 40s, 50s. Um, but I just knew at the end of the day, all I needed was an opportunity and, uh, you know, cause I've been playing basketball for forever. And you know, the confidence in basketball will always be there.

• 1:34:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's very cool. Congrat- I think you're the, that's the biggest contract ever for an undrafted guy.

• 1:34:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's crazy.

• 1:34:29Speaker 03

  Which, which is pretty cool. So yeah. And now, now I, I don't know. How, how do you see this dynamic work? It's going to be like, what three fifths of the lineup is going to be different this year?

• 1:34:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, yeah. So I just seen something the other day that said that, uh, games one through four in the rocket series, our whole starting lineup is gone. Uh,

• 1:34:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:34:48Speaker 05

  You know, Marcus left, Bron's leaving, uh, don't know where he's going is to be determined. And then everybody else left as well. So, uh, it's different. It's definitely a different dynamic, but, um, I'm, I'm very excited for what we are building.

• 1:35:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, very cool.

• 1:35:02Speaker 00

  Can I, can I ask a question to 12 year old Austin Reeves about all this?

• 1:35:06Speaker 05

  For sure.

• 1:35:07Speaker 00

  Okay. So to 12 year old Austin Reeves, you hate LeBron, we hate LeBron. What's the thing you hate the most about LeBron?

• 1:35:13Speaker 05

  I just honestly was a Kobe guy. So.

• 1:35:16Speaker 00

  The meme was funny. So for people who don't know, he had the, the, what, what was it? It was, I'm, I'm putting my phone on LeBron mode. No rings.

• 1:35:24Speaker 05

  When I need some sleep, I put my phone on LeBron mode. No rings and it was a picture of Kobe like this. But no, I mean, I, I was, I was a diehard Kobe guy. So, you know, by default, I didn't, I didn't like Bron.

• 1:35:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:35:35Speaker 05

  And it's funny when that had came out, uh, we were in New Orleans and after the game, I, we get in the locker room, coach comes in, talks, whatever. And then I, uh, I pulled my phone up and it's just like text after text after that. I pull up my Instagram and the first thing I see is ESPN, uh, posted it, uh, like tweet of mine from when I was 12. And I was like, shit, what do I do? Uh, so I just went over to him and was like, yo, I ain't gonna lie to you. I, I used to, I used to be a hater. I was like, and I turned my phone around. He just started laughing.

• 1:36:06Speaker 00

  I mean, it's actually like a compliment to LeBron that he's played so long in the NBA that he has guys who are 12 years old, who hated him and trolling him online are now his teammate.

• 1:36:17Speaker 05

  It's crazy.

• 1:36:18Speaker 00

  That's nuts.

• 1:36:18Speaker 05

  Definitely crazy. Yeah. No, I mean, it's, I mean, and then the crazy thing was is everything that, you know, I think the outside world thinks of him as a person. Uh, you can't really think he's a bad player. It's impossible. He's so good. Uh, I was completely wrong on, um, he'd been fucking phenomenal from day one. Uh, never, I mean, I was on a two way and he treated me the same as he does today.

• 1:36:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. Was there a, a moment where you, you realized that you had his respect or at least like his attention?

• 1:36:45Speaker 05

  Yeah. I mean, I think it grew, um, over time, but so I was on a two way and I went to his mini camp that we have, we had usually before, uh, training camp. It was usually the weekend before and we went down there and we were playing like three on three and, uh, I was playing really well and I made a move and went by Rondo. So I got a rebound, rewind a little bit. I got a rebound and it's just me on a two way. Like nobody really knows who I am. So I get a rebound and Bron was on my left and Russell Westbrook was on my right and AD was guarding Bron. Carmelo was guarding Russ and Rondo was guarding me. And in my head, I'm like, I should just fucking pass the ball. Like I shouldn't have the ball. So, um, but I dribbled. And I went by Rondo and I went to shoot a layup and I seen AD coming out of the corner of my eye.

• 1:37:30Speaker 05

  So I like threw a behind the back pass abroad and he dunked it. Jim went crazy and then I think that's where it kind of started and that's, you know, kind of the, the first step of me getting a, a real contract.

• 1:37:40Speaker 03

  Yeah. And now how, how is his golf game? I assume that you're much better than him at golf.

• 1:37:44Speaker 05

  Bron?

• 1:37:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:37:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, you could say much better.

• 1:37:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:37:47Speaker 00

  What's your handicap?

• 1:37:48Speaker 05

  I'm a plus one, seven right now.

• 1:37:50Speaker 03

  Oh, so yeah, you're really, you're really good.

• 1:37:52Speaker 05

  Uh, yeah, I mean, I, I play a lot, so.

• 1:37:54Speaker 00

  You're way better than LeBron.

• 1:37:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:37:56Speaker 00

  Just say that.

• 1:37:57Speaker 05

  I mean, I mean.

• 1:37:57Speaker 00

  We don't have to put any context.

• 1:37:59Speaker 03

  I think you're, you're, you're closer to being as good at, as LeBron James at basketball than he is being as good at you at golf.

• 1:38:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:08Speaker 05

  I mean, that's a crazy way to think of it.

• 1:38:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, but it's true. It's also a very true way to think about it all.

• 1:38:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:13Speaker 03

  So have you, I'm, I'm guessing you played with him?

• 1:38:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, we've, uh, we've got out a couple of times, uh, which was, it's crazy cause I had been begging him to come play for five years. Cause I mean, I've, I've played ever since I got in the league and, uh, every time he's like, no golf's stupid. Golf's stupid. I'm like, well, just try it one time. And he called me a couple of years, a couple of summers ago and he was like, I went out. And I was like, when out where? And he was like, to golf. And I was like, oh shit. And he goes, yeah, I'm addicted. So I've gotten basically half of our roster. Luca's into it now. JJ's played for a while, but, um, yeah, we have, our, our team has an addiction to golf.

• 1:38:48Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure, you know, he's still kind of a beginner, but once he retires and just dedicates himself full-time to playing golf, he's going to be really good.

• 1:38:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, he, he can get there. He, he just needs, I mean, obviously fix a couple of things in his swing, but one thing he does, he puts the ball really well, which is crazy. Cause I mean, that's one thing I struggle with is putting, but we were in, uh, Orlando earlier this year and, uh, we played on like a Thursday night and we were leaving Friday, like midday. So we had got a big scramble together. It was me, Bron, Luca, Bronny and Luke, uh, Kennard against our coaching staff, like JJ and a bunch of them. And I think Bron, we, we, I think we shot like 13 or 14 under and Bron had made like nine or 10 of the birdie putts.

• 1:39:31Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. Damn. That's pretty good.

• 1:39:32Speaker 00

  Do you know, do you know, here's another crazy stat about this upcoming season with the Lakers. Do you know that right now you're the oldest guy?

• 1:39:38Speaker 05

  I didn't see that.

• 1:39:39Speaker 00

  That's insane.

• 1:39:39Speaker 05

  It's insane.

• 1:39:40Speaker 00

  Are you like, what, are you, are you gonna, you're gonna have to be the old head? You're gonna have to do the LeBron stuff.

• 1:39:46Speaker 05

  Uh, I guess, but. In my brain, I'm still 15 years old, just running around having fun. I mean, we, yeah, I still do that to this day.

• 1:39:54Speaker 00

  Would you have been a LeFrodd guy in the replies?

• 1:39:57Speaker 05

  What's that mean?

• 1:39:58Speaker 00

  The, the, whatever, like, there's a LeBron, like, reached a milestone, there'll just be a ton of, like, replies being like, LeFrodd, and be like, you won this championship because the Thunder were too young, and then the spur, the heat, you know, the Ray Allen shot, they basically just try to make every, championship look like it doesn't count.

• 1:40:16Speaker 03

  Draymond suspended.

• 1:40:17Speaker 05

  I don't know, I don't know if I ever did that online. I'm sure I've had some lunch table arguments about something, but,

• 1:40:25Speaker 05

  yeah, I mean, it's all fun.

• 1:40:27Speaker 03

  You've always been a Laker guy, right? Like, even growing up. You, you mentioned Kobe. I don't know if you saw this stat, but if you look at, this guy crazy, the first five years of your career compared to the first five years of Kobe Bryant's career. Your points per game, almost identical as you track it along. So first season, you were 7.3, Kobe was 7.6. Second season, 13, he was 15.4. Third season, 15.9, he was 19. Next, 20.2, you were, he was 22.5. And then this most recent season, I believe it was like 25 for you, 28 for him. But it tracked along, like, very close to being, like, kind of, not saying you're the same player, but it's, it's cool that you got to,

• 1:41:10Speaker 03

  play for a team that you grew up rooting for and kind of like following in those footsteps. So when, when did you become a Laker fan?

• 1:41:17Speaker 05

  Uh, young, my, my grandma was actually a Kobe fan, so we would sit and watch the games together and, you know, really just from a young age admired his mentality and the way he approached the game. It was kill or be killed to him. You know, he didn't have friends in the league and I think that that's a missing part of, you know, sports today. Everybody's buddy, buddy. Which is cool, I guess, but, uh, you know, at the end of the day, you know, we're, we're on the court to win and that's the main thing. And I feel like that's what he did at the highest level.

• 1:41:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, I like that. I like the hate, bring the hate back.

• 1:41:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, I agree.

• 1:41:53Speaker 05

  I don't, I, people think I talk a lot of shit, which I don't. Uh, I was more of a, I'll talk if someone talks to me, but nobody talks in the NBA anymore.

• 1:42:02Speaker 00

  All right, so let's do a role play, so we can like test if you'll talk shit. PFT and I are the Oklahoma City Thunder. You suck, dude.

• 1:42:10Speaker 05

  I mean, I can't say. Y'all are champions.

• 1:42:12Speaker 00

  Okay, well, not anymore, actually.

• 1:42:14Speaker 05

  I mean, they got one. I don't have.

• 1:42:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay, so that was bad. That was bad shit talking by you. We're the Spurs. We're, we're, we're Wemba Yana.

• 1:42:23Speaker 03

  Who is les incompétents?

• 1:42:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:42:25Speaker 05

  I don't know what the fuck.

• 1:42:26Speaker 00

  Too short.

• 1:42:29Speaker 00

  You're too short.

• 1:42:30Speaker 05

  I mean, fuck, he's five, seven, five. What am I supposed to say to him?

• 1:42:35Speaker 00

  All right, we gotta work on the shit talking.

• 1:42:36Speaker 05

  No, no, I mean, I haven't talked shit in a long time. It was back in high school when I used to, and then, like I said, I mean, people kind of stopped.

• 1:42:44Speaker 00

  I, I got a question about that. So you're from a town of what, like 1,200 people in Arkansas?

• 1:42:48Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:42:49Speaker 00

  What, at what point in your high school career where you're like, this is just so easy for me? And did you have a game where you're like, what are we even doing here? Cause I love, like, people don't, I think most people realize, but some people still don't get it, like, guys who are in the NBA, guys who are in major league sports, like, they have been just so dominant at every step of the way, like, especially in high school, where I'm sure you played multiple sports, could have done multiple sports, but was there a game where like, what is, why are they even trying?

• 1:43:16Speaker 05

  Uh, there probably, I mean, there was a couple of my, like, junior and senior year, but.

• 1:43:21Speaker 00

  How many points?

• 1:43:22Speaker 05

  I scored 73.

• 1:43:23Speaker 00

  Okay, yeah, so that was, that was one.

• 1:43:26Speaker 03

  Can I be that guy? It was triple overtime.

• 1:43:28Speaker 05

  It was. Yeah, definitely. No, I was saying, I shot, I think I shot 37 free throws.

• 1:43:32Speaker 00

  Oh, shit. Oh, little SGA free, free throw merchant.

• 1:43:36Speaker 05

  Man pressed the whole time and just ran and jumped. So, shot a lot of free throws. Uh, but honestly, like my, my, I played senior high, my ninth and, obviously 10th grade year, but I moved up my ninth grade year and, uh, my brother's two years older than me and he was our best player by far. So I didn't really, I didn't start like dominating games until after he left. So my junior and senior year, uh, but more so my senior year, like I would, I would go into games and, uh, like, obviously went into the, the most important thing, but we'd never really, you know, there was only a handful of games throughout the year that we didn't think that we could win.

• 1:44:12Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:44:12Speaker 05

  We knew it was going to be close. Um, so some of those games I would either, you know, go in trying to get 50 or get a triple double.

• 1:44:19Speaker 00

  Yeah. Wait, so you, I, I read a story that your, your older brother, you never won anything when you were growing up?

• 1:44:25Speaker 05

  Nope.

• 1:44:26Speaker 00

  So the important question is, did he stop playing you when he realized that you could beat him? Cause that's bullshit if he did that.

• 1:44:33Speaker 05

  It's, no, no, no, it's actually crazy. Cause we were, I mean, we could go play one on one right now and he. would give me more problems than half of our team. And he plays, he plays in the top league in Germany. Um, but I think it's just, well, it's one of those things.

• 1:44:47Speaker 00

  Mentally, yeah.

• 1:44:48Speaker 05

  It's like, I mean, we, for a long time, we played a lot of tennis together and for a long time I couldn't beat him. I finally got over the hump not too long ago, and so I beat him three or four times since, but uh, he gives me more problems still to this day than, than a lot of people.

• 1:45:01Speaker 00

  So if you're a Western Conference team, you, they should sign your brother.

• 1:45:04Speaker 05

  No, no.

• 1:45:05Speaker 00

  Before the playoffs and just be like, and just like godfather, just have him sit on the bench being like, what are you gonna do now? The Austin stopper.

• 1:45:12Speaker 05

  Nah, he's, he's good where he's at.

• 1:45:15Speaker 03

  So I, I also read that your mom was a pretty good basketball player. She played in college. How, how old were you when you first beat her?

• 1:45:21Speaker 05

  Uh, she never would play me in one on one. All she would do is play me in horse or pig and she would go from left elbow to right elbow, shooting bank shots and I couldn't beat her.

• 1:45:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:45:31Speaker 05

  And.

• 1:45:31Speaker 00

  That's such a, that's such a parent move to just keep like fundamentals.

• 1:45:35Speaker 05

  Well, I don't know. I, I genuinely, I don't know if I've ever beat her in horse or big, which is crazy. Well, she, she beat me really bad one day and she, and she was in her house shoes and she was, she was talking shit. And she beat me and walked in the house and was like, I'm never playing you again. It was like, she was basically like, you're not good enough.

• 1:45:53Speaker 00

  I love that, but I used to, when I used to play my dad in horse, I would just try to chuck threes.

• 1:45:58Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:45:59Speaker 00

  And then he would just go like five feet away, one hand, and I would miss it. Cause I would just be like shooting from, you know, 40 feet away.

• 1:46:06Speaker 03

  Yeah. I also read, I read a profile of you. I think it was done by maybe the LA Times, but they went to your, your farm, your family farm in Arkansas with you. And uh, one part jumped out to me because we actually have a guy Hank over here. Hank uh, does a really good cow noise. He does a great cow impression. He does breaking moves for us.

• 1:46:23Speaker 00

  Oh, here we go.

• 1:46:24Speaker 03

  So does a cow noise. And in the article, it said that you do a cow impression too. So.

• 1:46:29Speaker 00

  Oh boy.

• 1:46:29Speaker 03

  I wanted.

• 1:46:31Speaker 05

  I think he, I think he might have lied in that article.

• 1:46:33Speaker 03

  Okay. Yeah. It said that you can, the guy said you can make a cow noise, but just maybe judge Hank's.

• 1:46:44Speaker 00

  That's actually fucking elite. Yeah, that's elite.

• 1:46:46Speaker 03

  Elite, yeah.

• 1:46:48Speaker 00

  That's really good. Good work, Hank. You can come work on the farm. Do you have, do you have one? I don't know if I made cow noises. I don't, I think you might have made that up. Do you have any other noises you make? No, I just. Okay. I don't know if we just had noises. No. Yeah, dog, can you do a dog noise? No, I don't do anything. Cat? Just talk, nah, I'm not a cat guy. What was it like, like, growing up on a farm? Were you working, like, the farm when you were a kid? No, so my mom gave me basically, uh, she was like, get in the gym and get your school paid for, go get a job. So I picked the go to the gym, basically everyday route instead of, uh, actually having a job. Yeah, that's, I was a smart.

• 1:47:26Speaker 00

  But I, my, my grandpa was, I mean, he was the one that, um, took care of everything and, you know, days I would go out with him and just hang out and have a good time. What kind of farm, like, what else, what'd you have? Cattle. All cattle? Yeah, all cattle. I love that.

• 1:47:39Speaker 03

  Did you, uh, were you surprised that you didn't get more offers coming out of high school?

• 1:47:43Speaker 00

  Oh, surprised, yeah. I mean, I just feel like, you know, the main thing that everybody was saying was, is I was too skinny and, but it's like, you know, they make a weight room for a reason. Like, obviously, I think the majority of people could see that the skill was there. So it's like, you know, you look at the NBA draft, for example, anybody past, you know, fifteen, twenty, they all go off potential. And so I didn't understand why people didn't, you know, see the, like, potential in the skill that I had. Um, because, you know, skill's gonna, you know, outweigh, you know, almost everything at the end of the day. Um, but, you know, it is what it is.

• 1:48:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't know if you saw this the other day. It, it, crazy highlight that I saw from, I think it was summer league. They're testing out the new foul shot system.

• 1:48:29Speaker 00

  Is it, is it one, one?

• 1:48:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, so like, I think the last two minutes, you shoot normal foul shots.

• 1:48:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48:35Speaker 03

  But before that, if you get fouled shooting a three, you take one shot and it's worth three points. What do you think about that?

• 1:48:40Speaker 00

  I think it's stupid.

• 1:48:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, I agree. It's very stupid.

• 1:48:42Speaker 00

  I mean, they, they actually changed, they, they do that in the G League games, uh. Yeah, they do, yeah. Uh, which I mean, I think is, I don't know, what, what are they saying? It speeds up the game? Yeah, I think so. But it's stu-, like, you gotta make your free throws. That's the, that's the fun of it, like, high-pressure moments and free throws. Yes, I, I don't like that. How many is the most free throws you ever made in a row? Um, I don't have an exact number. I would say. Probably sixty or seventy. That's pretty good. We once made forty-one in a row with two mulligans and also a ringer shooter that we invited. No big deal. Yeah.

• 1:49:19Speaker 03

  How many threes have you made in a row?

• 1:49:21Speaker 00

  Uh, I was shooting on, you know, what they call the gun, the thing that, you know, throws the ball back to. I think I made fifty-two in a row from the top of the key.

• 1:49:28Speaker 03

  That's pretty good.

• 1:49:28Speaker 00

  I made nine once. That's sick.

• 1:49:31Speaker 03

  It's not bad.

• 1:49:31Speaker 00

  Not bad. It's pretty sick.

• 1:49:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't shoot.

• 1:49:33Speaker 00

  There's a lot of people in this world that wouldn't make nine. I just stood right at the top of the key. Yeah. Made nine.

• 1:49:39Speaker 03

  Do you like in your nicknames?

• 1:49:41Speaker 00

  Um, I don't really care. Hillbilly Kobe? It's cool.

• 1:49:46Speaker 03

  Okay, alright, alright, so we're okay with it.

• 1:49:48Speaker 00

  I'm okay.

• 1:49:49Speaker 03

  I know, I know you're like lukewarm on it when it first came out, but I think it's a cool nickname.

• 1:49:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think it was, uh, you know, timing and, you know, kind of the things that, you know, happened, you know, with Kobe a couple of years before.

• 1:49:59Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:50:00Speaker 00

  Um, you know, I was never trying to call myself Kobe. I mean, I didn't even make it up. I think if you make up your own nickname, that's kind of corny, but, um, no, one of my, one of my GAs at Oklahoma, I think it was in my first or second year there, he came up to me and was, it was like, I got a nickname and I was like, what? And he said, Hillbilly Kobe. And then someone heard it on the team and they kind of ran with it. And then obviously going to the Lakers, um, you know, someone else picked up on it and it kind of went from there. Yeah.

• 1:50:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think it's a cool nickname for what it's worth. I think most people like it. They say it with respect.

• 1:50:32Speaker 00

  Yeah. Speaking of names, did, uh, did Bronny ever fuck up and call LeBron dad? I don't think I ever heard it, no. Uh, man, would, did, did LeBron ever call him son? Uh. I guess that would be, that would be more like, fine. I'm sure he did at some point. But calling him, Bronny calling LeBron dad would be kind of embarrassing. Always, I think it would just be like, I mean, it's, it's a crazy, you know, uh, duo if you really think about it. Cause I, I mean, you see, I've, I've been sitting in practice, you know, there in the middle of practice and I would see, you know, Bron obviously analyzes everything and, you know, he was on one team and Bronny was on another and, uh, I mean, he, he does it to everybody. Doesn't matter if he's on your team or not, but Bronny did something, made a mistake or something. He went over and talked to him and I was like, this is fucking crazy. He's talking to his son right now.

• 1:51:17Speaker 00

  It's nuts. Was there ever a moment? Cause it does feel like all the stories of LeBron is like, the way he thinks the game is just at such an elite level. No one's really thinking the game like him. Was there ever a moment where he gave you a tip or was like, hey, this guy's going to do this and it just worked perfectly? Yeah. I mean, I thought that that happens, you know, basically every game. Uh, I remember we were playing one, for example, we were playing. I think maybe Atlanta at home or something and we had went to an empty corner pick and roll with me and AD. And I think we got a bucket or something. And there was a timeout and he came, uh, he came over to me in the timeout and was like, uh, he was like, next time we go to the empty corner pick and roll.

• 1:51:57Speaker 00

  He was like, reject it, go baseline. He was like, my guy will drop as the X man, the low man will rotate. And he was like, I'll, you know, cut from, you know, the hash. And he was like, just throw it up. And I was like, I won't be able to see you. And he was like, I don't care. Just throw it up. And I threw a shitty pass and he caught it and dunked it. That's awesome. So I mean, there's, there's little things. I mean, in the OKC series, um, we were running basically, you know, a cross screen to get him the ball in the post. And they kept, uh, releasing off his body early and going high and beating him to the spot. So we were both sitting on the bench and I was like, yo, like if, if they keep doing that, like, he was like, yeah, throw it up. And so we were already on the same page. So there's a clip of me, I had the ball on the left wing and we were running the action.

• 1:52:41Speaker 00

  And I just threw the ball and everybody's like, where the fuck is this going? He caught it and dunked it. So it's just little things like that, that he picks up. You know, during the flow of the game that, that makes it easy. Yeah. Does he gain weight during games? Gain weight. There was that rumor when he was in Miami that, that he actually gained weight. I mean, Miami Bron was different. I think. Yeah. You hated him. Yeah. I wanted, I wanted the Spurs to win, I gotta say. Uh, but yeah, no, I think. I mean, he played at like two seventy almost in Miami, but I don't know if he's gaining weight during the game. It's pretty hard. It's pretty hard to do. Yeah, it was the chocolate chip cookies that Pat Riley took away. Yeah, that's kind of fucked up. Yeah. Did you ever see LeBron eat the chocolate chip cookies? I've seen him eat one or two chocolate chip cookies. Okay, yeah, it's good that it's good that they haven't taken it away yet.

• 1:53:25Speaker 00

  No, they haven't. I mean, but sadly, he won't be there next year. So hopefully we still get chocolate chip cookies. Yeah, that's true. That's true. What's uh, what's, what's your relationship with Luca like? Cause it feels like this is a transition year for the Lakers where it is his franchise now. I heard, I, I heard the story that he's very, very competitive in everything, that he invited you over to his house one night and you thought you were just gonna go chill and it was just like a bracket style bowling uh, competition, but that just hit you out of nowhere? It was, I don't know if it was necessarily a bracket style, but there, he does have a bowling alley in his basement and I think it was New Year's Eve. I went and ate with my people and then going home, he called me and he had some friends over, uh, you know, for New Year's or whatever. And

• 1:54:08Speaker 00

  I went over there and I think we ended up bowling until like five thirty in the morning. He can't beat me. Um. That's pathetic. He has a bowling alley. That's what I'm saying. I'm telling that too. I'm like, yo, you can't even beat me in your own house. This is. You should never lose if you have a bowling alley. For sure. I mean, we've played, we've played a lot of the ping pong. I don't think he's beat me in ping pong. Uh, we briefly played darts, but I won that and played shuffleboard. I beat him in that. I mean, the one thing he probably beat me at is what I probably need to, you know, care about more is basketball. Yeah, yeah. Pretty good player. You got him in everything else. Yeah, I guess that goes for something. Yeah. How did you find out about the trade? Uh, so we were in New York and we just beat the shit out of, I mean, I say beat the shit. We,

• 1:54:52Speaker 00

  we beat the Knicks by, you know, fifteen or so, but we basically controlled the whole game and AD was hurt at the time. So, but everything had felt like, you know, things were falling into place. Like everybody was kind of understanding their role, like Max Christie was playing at a high level. Um, so we go in there and win and I'm sitting by Bron in the locker room at right after media. And we was just talking about random shit and, and we both looked at each other and we were like, we're gonna be, we're gonna be all right when we get AD back. Like obviously he's a staple for what we're doing. Uh, but once we get him back, like everything's kind of falling in order. And so I talked to my people that were there and then get on the bus and go home and that's when, so our uh, group.

• 1:55:32Speaker 05

  Message started going off and I hardly ever look at our group message. I'm not active in the group message. So, but I seen AD had texted and he said they traded me and I just put my phone down. I was like, yeah, whatever. Like you ain't getting traded. So pulled up Instagram, Shams had, you know, posted it and so I called my agent and everybody's like, this can't be real. And I was like, it can't be like, so I was like, if you hear anything, let me know. So one of the assistant coaches, Bo, um, that I'm close with calls me and I was like, what the fuck is this? And he was like, and he, he went to say something and I was like, there's no way it's real. And he was like, uh, he was like, I'm sitting by Max Christie. It's real.

• 1:56:14Speaker 05

  And I was like, holy shit. So it was crazy. It was, I mean, I was, I was really close with both of them actually. Uh, but me and AD, you know, had built a really, really good relationship. Uh, you know, after games, like we would fade. I mean, we'd be on FaceTime with his kids. So it was a, you know, that part always sucks. But then again, you know, you flip the page and Luca's one of my best friends in the world.

• 1:56:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. How long after did he, did you get the notification? Like Anthony Davis has left the chat?

• 1:56:43Speaker 05

  Uh, I think it was later that night. He had FaceTimed me. Uh, we were in New York, so it was probably two or three in the morning there, but he was back in LA rehabbing. And he FaceTimed me and I was like, oh, what the fuck happened? He was like, they traded me. So I think he left it on, you know, all the group messages that night.

• 1:57:01Speaker 03

  And then after Luca, was there any like, I don't want to say animosity towards him, probably no animosity, but like, you're not my friend AD. Like was there like a feeling out period right there?

• 1:57:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, for sure. I mean, I think that there was a, there was a period where he needed to, you know, kind of be comfortable with, you know, what happened. Uh, you know, you look at a guy like that and you don't think that he's ever, I mean, nobody thought he was going to get traded. So, uh, I think, you know, we kind of stayed. From each other at first, just because, you know, I didn't want, I don't want to be a, um, I don't want to force a friendship or a relationship like I want that to grow naturally. So, uh, he was kind of standoffish and I kind of just let him do his thing. And, um, it was definitely a weird period of time because, you know, you have somebody that you've been with for, you know, three, four years that, that leave and then a new guy and,

• 1:57:52Speaker 05

  uh, you know, obviously we all knew what he could do basketball wise, but as a person, nobody knew him. So, um, but you know, the summer, come around and we all got back together and then we, you know, he started fucking talking shit and, you know, he likes to, you know, bet on, you know, shots and stuff. So, uh, we do a lot of that. And I was like, okay, I think me and we're going to get along.

• 1:58:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:58:12Speaker 03

  Until you start kicking his ass in every game that he likes.

• 1:58:15Speaker 05

  Yeah. Well, he, I mean, the thing about it is, is if he hears this and sees this, he's going to deny it a hundred percent. But I mean, I already expect it.

• 1:58:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. So, so Luca is one of your best friends on the team. Friends horse around. Have you ever like picked Luca up? Could you pick Luca up?

• 1:58:31Speaker 05

  Like physically?

• 1:58:32Speaker 00

  Yeah. Like, or maybe you couldn't, but now you can.

• 1:58:36Speaker 05

  Uh, that's a strange question, but.

• 1:58:40Speaker 03

  Just like, you know, buddies sometimes.

• 1:58:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, like.

• 1:58:42Speaker 05

  No, I don't think I've ever tried to pick him up.

• 1:58:44Speaker 03

  He couldn't pick me up, but like if I got in shape. Yeah, in a couple of months I will be able to.

• 1:58:48Speaker 00

  You know what I mean?

• 1:58:49Speaker 05

  So you're getting in shape now?

• 1:58:50Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, right. Like, was it like when Luca got traded, were you like, oh man, I can't pick that guy up. But then he goes off for a summer, he comes back. You're like, oh, now I could pick him up.

• 1:58:58Speaker 05

  I don't think that that ever went through my brain though.

• 1:59:04Speaker 00

  I'm making a weight joke about Luca.

• 1:59:07Speaker 00

  He does look like he's in really good shape.

• 1:59:09Speaker 05

  He's in a good spot now. Yeah. I mean, I think, I, I do think that the, there was a, a big mental aspect of, you know, the trade and stuff that, that got to him and, uh, you know, it's good to see him. He's happy now and. He uh, looks good.

• 1:59:22Speaker 00

  Did you ever ask him what happened with that uh, beer that uh, I think it was Michael Finley took?

• 1:59:27Speaker 05

  I've seen the video. I've never asked him.

• 1:59:29Speaker 00

  You should ask him that. You should just be like, hey, was, was that it? Was that, was that the end?

• 1:59:34Speaker 05

  It might have been. Who knows?

• 1:59:36Speaker 03

  Like if another man takes a beer out of my hand, it's probably, I know that the relationship's not good.

• 1:59:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. What's it like playing for JJ? He's, so he's been on the show a couple of times. He's a good friend of ours. Is it uh, like you're, I mean, he's, he's a young head coach. Is he, when you, when he took the job, it's a tough job to take with LeBron there. What's it, what's it been like playing for him?

• 1:59:58Speaker 05

  How well do y'all know JJ?

• 1:59:59Speaker 00

  Uh, pretty well, yeah. I actually used to be neighbors with him.

• 2:00:01Speaker 05

  He's a fucking psychopath.

• 2:00:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's nuts.

• 2:00:03Speaker 05

  He's awesome. I mean, I've, I've loved every minute of it. Uh, you know, he looked at me, well, you know, his first year in the summer and he was like, look, like, you know, we're not always going to agree on everything. He was like, but you know, the main thing to all of this is communication. He was like, if you ever think that, you know, if you ever want to, he said, you could say anything to me. He was like, you know, as far as like, you know, if I'm fucking up coaching or what it is, personnel, like whatever it is, he was like, we can always have a real conversation. So there's been, there's been instances in games where he's chewing my ass about something and I don't think I'm wrong. So I'm going back at him and uh, it's healthy though. Cause I mean, I think that that's how you, you build something special.

• 2:00:45Speaker 05

  So um, I think that he's done everything that anybody could ask him to do. And even more, I think that, you know, his confidence in himself and, and his staff. I mean, I, I feel like he genuinely feels like he's the best coach in the NBA. And you want that. Like you want guys that feel like they're, they're at the top and they can uh, out coach anybody, outplay anybody. So our relationship's been, you know, um, it's really grown throughout the years. And you know, we, like I said, we've played a lot of golf together. So we've uh, we've spent a lot of time together.

• 2:01:17Speaker 00

  If you ever want to get in his head on the golf course, just be like, do you think people still hate you as much as they used to?

• 2:01:23Speaker 05

  Talk about all the time.

• 2:01:23Speaker 00

  What does he say? Cause people hated him.

• 2:01:26Speaker 05

  They all they hated.

• 2:01:27Speaker 00

  Hated him.

• 2:01:28Speaker 05

  And he was like, I don't even, he told me he didn't know why people hated him.

• 2:01:31Speaker 00

  Oh, that's bullshit. He played for Duke. Yes, yeah, he was good.

• 2:01:36Speaker 05

  And I was like, he was actually good. So, um, no, there's, there's actually, he is, uh, there's a better way to get in his head on the golf course. If you ever get out there with him, he's terrified of his shadow. So if he has a shadow that's like, if the sun's back here and like he's going, aiming this way and the shadow's like over the ball or right behind him, just mention it. And he, like, his brain will start spinning.

• 2:01:57Speaker 00

  What is he, a groundhog?

• 2:01:58Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 2:01:58Speaker 00

  What do you mean he's terrified of his shadow?

• 2:02:01Speaker 05

  I don't know. I don't know. He's gonna hate me for saying this to you. But yeah, no, he, he, he come to me one day last season, um, and he was like, I, I've overcome it. And I was like, what are you talking? He was like, my, my shadow problem. And so we were, we went and played at, uh, Bel Air the next week and there was a shadow in his way. And he actually hit a good shot and I was like, maybe he did. And then he came back the next day and he was like, no, it's, it's still there.

• 2:02:27Speaker 00

  That's so funny.

• 2:02:28Speaker 03

  Having your own shadow in your head is terrible. It's like always gonna be there.

• 2:02:31Speaker 05

  I guess it's something about, you know, seeing himself when he swings.

• 2:02:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:02:35Speaker 05

  Seeing the movement and stuff. I guess he just overthinks it.

• 2:02:38Speaker 00

  That's so funny. I mean, I, I do think he's a really, really good coach and he, he is a psycho and that is like a great quality to have if you're gonna be a head coach.

• 2:02:45Speaker 05

  Have you seen the, uh, is it the SportsCenter commercial?

• 2:02:49Speaker 00

  Which one?

• 2:02:49Speaker 05

  Of him when, uh, they walk into the room and he's the analytic guy.

• 2:02:53Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:02:54Speaker 03

  I don't think I saw that, no.

• 2:02:54Speaker 05

  Look it up and that's exactly how he coaches. Cause I mean, they basically walk in and he, he's got all this, you know, he's got a marker and he's writing on the board and he's like screaming and he's drank like six cups of coffee.

• 2:03:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:06Speaker 05

  It's exactly how he coaches.

• 2:03:07Speaker 00

  That's the guy you wanna go to war with.

• 2:03:09Speaker 05

  For sure.

• 2:03:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:09Speaker 03

  Do, do you ever get brought into those conversations like about numbers? Do they, do they go through analytics with you guys or do they try to distill it down as much as possible?

• 2:03:17Speaker 05

  I think that they do it as a staff and then bring it, uh, cause I don't think a lot of, I don't think a lot of. Play, I think players respect the analytics, but I don't think that a lot of players think that it tells the full story. I think that there's like a feel aspect of, you know, flow of game, all these things. So I think that they do a good job of getting the analytics and getting the numbers that they think, you know, that show worked the best and then basically instill it in kind of how we want to do things.

• 2:03:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. Are you, are you still close with AD?

• 2:03:51Speaker 05

  Uh, we talk every now and then, yeah.

• 2:03:52Speaker 00

  How, how excited should I be as a Wizards fan?

• 2:03:55Speaker 05

  Uh, I like what they got going on over there.

• 2:03:58Speaker 00

  Yeah. Are you Wiz curious?

• 2:03:59Speaker 05

  I guess. I never thought of that either, but yeah, I guess I am.

• 2:04:03Speaker 00

  It's spreading, yeah.

• 2:04:04Speaker 05

  I mean, we're hitting you with some good stuff here. I mean, I think that AJ is going to be really good. Now, obviously Trey's showing that, you know, he's an all-star, can take a team, you know, deep in the playoffs. And then if AD can stay healthy, he's one of the best players in the NBA.

• 2:04:18Speaker 00

  And then, and then we got Ayton.

• 2:04:19Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:04:20Speaker 00

  If he can find that spark again and AD can stay healthy.

• 2:04:23Speaker 05

  No, I mean, I think.

• 2:04:23Speaker 00

  Watch out.

• 2:04:24Speaker 05

  No, for sure. I think that's one thing a lot. I mean, a lot of people talk, you know, shit about DA and kind of how he goes about the game. But, you know, when he was, when he was in a good headspace for us last year, he was, he was top 10 big in the league. It was just, you know, trying to manage the ups and downs, you know, kind of was hard. But at the end of the day, he was a good dude and good to be around.

• 2:04:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. So you've been in the league for, what, this is your sixth year?

• 2:04:48Speaker 05

  This is going six.

• 2:04:49Speaker 00

  It's going to six. Was there a moment in the first five years where people stopped talking shit because they're like, oh shit, he is, he can hoop? Because I'd imagine when you were like, early on, Lakers always have a target.

• 2:05:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:05:00Speaker 00

  Maybe talk shit, be like, this guy sucks.

• 2:05:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, I think it was more so teams would talk shit more to our team because our first year and maybe year and a half, we weren't very good. I remember that Memphis team that was really good. They were now top two, three in the West a couple of years in a row. They They've they would come into LA and and beat us pretty bad and talk shit the whole time. Uh, but we we finally got our get back on them and in the playoffs, uh, my second year. So that was nice. Uh, but it's, I mean, there people really know, like, single people out and just go at them.

• 2:05:33Speaker 00

  What are your thoughts on, uh, Memphis, uh, as a city and maybe the hotels?

• 2:05:38Speaker 05

  I actually, I grew up close to Memphis, so.

• 2:05:40Speaker 00

  There you go. Maybe you see you got a Laker who likes Memphis.

• 2:05:43Speaker 05

  I don't know if I'd say I like it. Is I don't, I mean, I think it it is what you make it. Uh, obviously, I think that, you know, the hotels could be better.

• 2:05:52Speaker 03

  The Bass Pro Shop Pyramid has got a hotel at the top.

• 2:05:55Speaker 05

  Interesting.

• 2:05:55Speaker 03

  It's really nice.

• 2:05:56Speaker 05

  Is it?

• 2:05:57Speaker 03

  I stayed there. It is beautiful.

• 2:05:58Speaker 05

  Wow, I didn't know that.

• 2:05:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, you should check it out.

• 2:06:00Speaker 05

  I've been to Memphis a lot. We used to go and watch, what is it, Redbirds games, uh, the triple A team. Uh, when I was younger, so I've spent a lot of time in Memphis. I don't, I don't hate it.

• 2:06:09Speaker 00

  Do you ever go to Oakland in Arkansas, Hot Springs for the racetrack?

• 2:06:13Speaker 05

  I have not. I know some, I know some friends that went up there and went out there.

• 2:06:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, that's where, uh, I think Al Capone tried to cure his syphilis.

• 2:06:22Speaker 05

  Interesting.

• 2:06:22Speaker 00

  With the hot springs. Yeah, he's like, I'll just take a jacuzzi and I'll be fine.

• 2:06:25Speaker 05

  It didn't work.

• 2:06:26Speaker 00

  Did not work.

• 2:06:27Speaker 05

  Clearly.

• 2:06:27Speaker 03

  Yeah. Uh, do we want to get?

• 2:06:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, let's do it. So, all right, we got a Roback question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code TAKE. Twenty percent off your first purchase, Q Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com promo code TAKE. I'm wearing Roback right now. Great golf stuff. Zach, you saw him earlier for the alarm.

• 2:06:47Speaker 04

  How you doing today? Sorry, I did have a quick question. As someone who's made it to like, you know, the the biggest stage in basketball. Have you ever had the urge to maybe like go undercover, say, at LA Fitness or a YMCA and just absolutely run up the score?

• 2:06:59Speaker 05

  Have I ever had the urge? Yes. Have I done it? No, but maybe, maybe in the future. I mean, because I I can get away with being a normal looking human. I just.

• 2:07:09Speaker 00

  Would have to change a couple of things up and I think we could get away with it. Yeah.

• 2:07:13Speaker 04

  Maybe just go wig, make shicey mask mustache could play.

• 2:07:16Speaker 00

  I feel like that would work.

• 2:07:17Speaker 04

  Definitely.

• 2:07:18Speaker 00

  Maybe, I mean, yeah.

• 2:07:20Speaker 03

  You should do it, but just like, don't even tape it. Just do it for your own.

• 2:07:23Speaker 00

  Uh, just.

• 2:07:24Speaker 03

  Just like, I want to kick somebody's ass right now.

• 2:07:26Speaker 00

  Yeah. That's actually a great idea. I've thought, I've thought about doing that. Yeah.

• 2:07:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:07:30Speaker 00

  Okay. Good question. You got a follow up?

• 2:07:32Speaker 04

  Uh, yeah, I can go follow up. A quick follow up question. Uh, if through all the areas of basketball, if you need to as- assemble a starting five, but you got to be on the team, who are the four guys you want to run with?

• 2:07:43Speaker 00

  All time?

• 2:07:44Speaker 04

  Yes, sir.

• 2:07:44Speaker 00

  Uh.

• 2:07:49Speaker 00

  All the older people, don't be mad at me because I'm talking personally from what I've seen and watched. Uh.

• 2:07:56Speaker 03

  If you leave George Mikan off this list.

• 2:07:59Speaker 00

  Exactly. Um, Steph at the one, God, I've got to put myself in there. Yeah. I can't coach. No.

• 2:08:06Speaker 04

  You got to be on the court.

• 2:08:07Speaker 00

  Um, Steph at the one, me at the two.

• 2:08:12Speaker 00

  I'm going.

• 2:08:17Speaker 00

  This is tough.

• 2:08:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:08:19Speaker 00

  It's so much easier if I don't have to put myself in there because I'd put Kobe at the two. Um, we're going to go Kobe at the three, Bron at the four and Shaq at the five. So no Luca and no Bronny? As of now, no. Wow.

• 2:08:33Speaker 03

  So then Bron would actually no law, he would leave.

• 2:08:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. Nah. Nah, he fucks with me.

• 2:08:41Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:08:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, that will piss people off. We're going to make it into a graphic.

• 2:08:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, I gotta, I gotta see it for. All right. So what if, what if you're off the team? Kobe at the two? Yeah, I would probably go Steph, Kobe.

• 2:08:55Speaker 00

  People are going to kill me for leaving MJ. Um. You could put him on right now. Nah.

• 2:09:03Speaker 00

  Steph, Kobe.

• 2:09:05Speaker 05

  Bron, maybe like Tim Duncan, Shaq, or

• 2:09:09Speaker 00

  That's pretty good.

• 2:09:11Speaker 03

  No Magic.

• 2:09:11Speaker 05

  Or Katie and Shaq.

• 2:09:12Speaker 03

  No Magic Johnson.

• 2:09:13Speaker 05

  I just could, I know, I didn't watch it, so I don't really. I couldn't.

• 2:09:18Speaker 00

  No Kareem, no James Worthy.

• 2:09:20Speaker 05

  Didn't watch it.

• 2:09:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:09:21Speaker 03

  Okay, that means it's a pretty important part of history.

• 2:09:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:09:24Speaker 05

  No, for sure. I mean, I've seen clips, but I like watching real basketball games.

• 2:09:28Speaker 03

  I'd put Kurt Rambis out there.

• 2:09:30Speaker 05

  Kurt Rambis is my guy. I fuck with Kurt.

• 2:09:32Speaker 03

  Is he, is he as intense as, you know, all the, all the clips that we've seen, the stories that we've heard?

• 2:09:37Speaker 05

  I think basketball wise, uh, obviously the clips do that justice, I think, off the court and like just talking to him around the practice facility and stuff. He's very mellow guy, just kinda moseys on around about his day, works out and, um, you know, he's, he's a basketball head at the end of the day. So he loves, you know, talking hoops with anybody.

• 2:09:58Speaker 00

  Yeah. Um, all right. So this tournament, uh, we might run this after the tournament. So tell us where you finished and are you like, when you play in this, are you like, I gotta try to beat all the other basketball players? Cause I think Kyle Lowry, Ray Allen, Steph, Seth Curry, Dell Curry.

• 2:10:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, I mean, I.

• 2:10:15Speaker 00

  Caruso.

• 2:10:15Speaker 05

  I'm, I'm playing to win it.

• 2:10:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, Caruso might have you.

• 2:10:19Speaker 05

  No, I mean, actually, I don't know.

• 2:10:22Speaker 00

  Actually, yeah.

• 2:10:24Speaker 05

  I've never seen him play golf, but.

• 2:10:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:10:26Speaker 05

  I, I feel like I got an opportunity to win if I, if I putt it well. That's kinda been my Achilles heel out here the last couple of years. I think I've hit it decent, but, um, I don't really, I'm not sitting there looking at, you know, Steph or Seth or Caruso and be like, oh, I gotta finish ahead of them.

• 2:10:42Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:10:42Speaker 05

  Go out and play as good as I can and wherever that lands, it lands.

• 2:10:45Speaker 03

  There's gotta be one guy that you're like, I gotta beat him.

• 2:10:51Speaker 05

  Uh, Charles Barkley?

• 2:10:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, that's the correct answer.

• 2:10:54Speaker 05

  If I don't beat him, uh.

• 2:10:56Speaker 03

  Will you quit golf?

• 2:10:57Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm. Would I quit golf?

• 2:10:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:10:58Speaker 05

  No, cause I love it so much, but, uh.

• 2:11:02Speaker 00

  Would you quit golf for a week?

• 2:11:04Speaker 05

  I actually hadn't played for like a week coming here.

• 2:11:07Speaker 00

  Two weeks then.

• 2:11:09Speaker 05

  That's just a road trip. So yeah.

• 2:11:11Speaker 00

  Okay, fine. Yeah. So there it is. If you, if you lose Charles Barkley, you have to quit golf for two weeks. And we're going to track it.

• 2:11:16Speaker 05

  Do.

• 2:11:16Speaker 00

  You're going to let us know when you quit and then you let us know when you're back.

• 2:11:19Speaker 03

  And Hank's gonna have to quit golf too.

• 2:11:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, for two weeks.

• 2:11:22Speaker 03

  For two weeks.

• 2:11:23Speaker 00

  For two full weeks.

• 2:11:24Speaker 03

  That's not happening. No, Hank agrees. Hank says yes. It is a long time.

• 2:11:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, let's bookend it. Are you gonna, what's, what's the first purchase you're gonna make when, when the new money comes in? Do you have anything in mind?

• 2:11:34Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 2:11:34Speaker 00

  Splurge on something.

• 2:11:35Speaker 05

  No, I mean, I'm gonna buy a house. That's really, I don't.

• 2:11:37Speaker 00

  That's a pretty good purchase.

• 2:11:38Speaker 05

  I don't really, I'm not as, I don't spend money, to be honest with you. I do, I don't enjoy, you know, basketball, golf, you know, I'd rather buy stuff for, you know, my friends and family. I don't really care to spend stuff on myself. So I actually had a, I'll talk with my advisor the other day and he told me to spend more money. So I'm working, working on it at the moment, but I guess I don't.

• 2:12:00Speaker 03

  Start shopping at Air One, maybe? Get those strawberries?

• 2:12:02Speaker 05

  I don't know. I mean, I could let my girlfriend go shop or something, but I hate shopping.

• 2:12:06Speaker 00

  Wait, oh, last, last question. Can you, can you get on any course, being an NBA player?

• 2:12:11Speaker 05

  Uh, for the most part, yeah.

• 2:12:14Speaker 00

  Do you, how does that work? Do you have to like, do you say like, hey, Austin Reeves?

• 2:12:18Speaker 05

  Honestly, I don't ever use my name for anything. I, I have, my best friend lives with me and works for me and, you know, he'll reach out to the course and.

• 2:12:27Speaker 00

  Got it. So he'll be like, hey, NBA Cup champion, Austin Reeves.

• 2:12:31Speaker 05

  No, we're in the, we're in the area. Do you care if we come out? And, you know, some courses say yes, some courses say no.

• 2:12:36Speaker 00

  That's awesome.

• 2:12:37Speaker 05

  I would say the majority say yeah, though.

• 2:12:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:12:40Speaker 05

  It's fun. I mean, the only one I have, I mean, the one that I really want to go to that I haven't been is Augusta, so.

• 2:12:44Speaker 00

  That's fair.

• 2:12:45Speaker 05

  Um, we're gonna make it out there at some point.

• 2:12:47Speaker 00

  It was funny when like, like LeBron got a membership in, uh, outside of Cleveland. Everyone was like freaking out. It's like, I'm pretty sure LeBron can get a membership anywhere.

• 2:12:55Speaker 05

  Anywhere he wants.

• 2:12:55Speaker 00

  You just call him up and they'll give him a lock.

• 2:12:57Speaker 05

  You know what's crazy is, is LACC, they don't let, they don't let like anybody in like the entertainment. Business like as far as like athletes.

• 2:13:07Speaker 00

  That is kind of.

• 2:13:08Speaker 05

  They don't let any like.

• 2:13:09Speaker 00

  Huh.

• 2:13:10Speaker 05

  Only person I think I know that's in there is Bomber. And.

• 2:13:14Speaker 00

  He's got a lot of money.

• 2:13:15Speaker 05

  He's got a lot of.

• 2:13:16Speaker 00

  A lot of money.

• 2:13:16Speaker 05

  But for the most part, they keep it strictly like tech people, I think. So.

• 2:13:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:13:23Speaker 05

  But it's it's a beautiful place out there.

• 2:13:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:13:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:13:25Speaker 00

  All right. Well, Austin, thank you so much, man. We really appreciate it and congrats again, man.

• 2:13:29Speaker 05

  Appreciate you, man.

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• 2:14:37Speaker 00

  All right, boys. Fire Fest of the week. Zach, you want to start first? Because usually Hank's sitting in that seat and he starts first. Memes and Max, maybe if you have one, we'll go to you as well. But go ahead, Zach.

• 2:14:50Speaker 04

  My favorite is this week. We spoke, I think it was about a week ago, about that green robot everyone saw online. Didn't look very impressive. Did laundry, folded clothes, correct? I think we're with this new company X1 that just dropped a robot arm this week. I think we're dangerously close, like robot soldiers. And the whole robots taking over the world thing isn't as far away as we thought it was going to be. And I've been like up late at night thinking about it.

• 2:15:16Speaker 03

  Really?

• 2:15:17Speaker 04

  Like if you see this, if you see this robotic hand from X1, like they say it can, it so it can plug in USB chargers, it can pick up single coins, it can like, the way it moves is like a hu- is for real, look, it looks like a human hand.

• 2:15:28Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:15:28Speaker 04

  And I just think that we're like in a really bad spot and I didn't think it would come in our lifetimes, but it it might be over.

• 2:15:33Speaker 03

  What do you think the first use cases for a completely synthetic but realistic feeling hand would be?

• 2:15:40Speaker 04

  Uh, I think a lot of like household tasks are good. I'm more so worried about when they build the full body quickly from the hand and also like, of course, guys are probably gonna end up jerking off with it.

• 2:15:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:15:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, definitely.

• 2:15:51Speaker 03

  Probably that's gonna be the first thing most people do, I think.

• 2:15:54Speaker 00

  Do you think that that's where the robots will then turn on us being like, hey, we were made to be able to, to, to solve any problem or do any task and all we're doing is jerking guys off?

• 2:16:05Speaker 04

  And they, and then they believe, like, create a militia.

• 2:16:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're like, we're, we're tired of giving hand jobs.

• 2:16:11Speaker 04

  We're over it.

• 2:16:12Speaker 03

  That's, the, the two things I've seen is the handjob robot and then there's the toilet robot. That runs into your room and you have to take a shit. So yeah, they're not gonna like us very much.

• 2:16:22Speaker 04

  I think it's coming like in the next 10 years.

• 2:16:23Speaker 03

  This is, we're gonna wear out our welcome real fast with robots.

• 2:16:26Speaker 00

  This is keeping you up at night?

• 2:16:27Speaker 04

  I was just like thinking about it last night after I saw this hand because like if the rest of the body works like the video of this hand, we're actually done for.

• 2:16:36Speaker 00

  You gotta get the blue blocker, uh, glasses that Chef Donnie got, uh, recommended to me. I put them on at night and I'm out in like five minutes. It's insane.

• 2:16:46Speaker 04

  Like legitimately work or?

• 2:16:47Speaker 00

  Yes, they legitimately work. I get instantly tired.

• 2:16:51Speaker 04

  Do you wear them while you sleep?

• 2:16:53Speaker 00

  No, I take them off.

• 2:16:54Speaker 04

  Oh, okay.

• 2:16:54Speaker 00

  I, I, I put them on.

• 2:16:55Speaker 04

  And then you get tired and then you take them off.

• 2:16:57Speaker 00

  My phone.

• 2:16:58Speaker 04

  Got it.

• 2:16:58Speaker 00

  Play a little Uker and then I'm just like five minutes, just like, holy shit, I'm tired.

• 2:17:03Speaker 03

  I'm telling you, get, get the, the blindfold that's got the Bluetooth speakers in it.

• 2:17:07Speaker 04

  I do that. That's awesome.

• 2:17:08Speaker 03

  It's, it's the best way to fall asleep. Also, I was thinking about Bluetooth today. We haven't really updated Bluetooth technology in a long time.

• 2:17:15Speaker 00

  What do you mean?

• 2:17:16Speaker 03

  Like it's still the, it's still the same process of like going into your phone, hitting the button to connect, hitting the button on the thing, then you connect to it.

• 2:17:23Speaker 00

  What would you like it to be?

• 2:17:24Speaker 03

  It needs to be easier.

• 2:17:26Speaker 04

  I feel like it's pretty easy.

• 2:17:27Speaker 00

  I feel like we don't want it to be too easy. Imagine if your phone just connected to a Bluetooth speaker as you were walking by it, that could be a dangerous situation.

• 2:17:34Speaker 03

  That is a dangerous game that you could be playing.

• 2:17:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:17:38Speaker 00

  I want to be able to opt in.

• 2:17:39Speaker 03

  But it is crazy that the underlying technology behind, I, I feel like it has not been changed in 30 years, 25 years.

• 2:17:47Speaker 00

  Do you guys have like a million Bluetooth?

• 2:17:49Speaker 04

  A million.

• 2:17:50Speaker 00

  It sucks because I don't want to get rid of one.

• 2:17:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:17:52Speaker 00

  Cause I don't know which ones are.

• 2:17:54Speaker 04

  Are the good ones.

• 2:17:55Speaker 00

  It also like they never, the Bluetooth, like half the time, it doesn't actually give you what you're singing to. It's some random word.

• 2:18:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:18:03Speaker 00

  Or name. And it's like, dude, I just wanted to say like, this is this speaker.

• 2:18:06Speaker 03

  You know why I, I never delete any of that stuff? It's kind of like nostalgic for me. It's like a time capsule.

• 2:18:12Speaker 00

  So you're like, oh, look at this.

• 2:18:13Speaker 03

  It, it reminds me of like the.

• 2:18:14Speaker 00

  This enterprise rental car I had like.

• 2:18:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:18:18Speaker 00

  Five years ago.

• 2:18:18Speaker 03

  It's kind of nice. Like I remember when I got that truck.

• 2:18:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:18:20Speaker 03

  You remember when I, I rented that shitty beach house?

• 2:18:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:18:24Speaker 03

  Yeah. It, it like, it takes you back. It's kind of nice.

• 2:18:29Speaker 04

  It is never just like television. It's always like Samsung 201, 300X.

• 2:18:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:18:32Speaker 04

  Dash B. It's like, well, this could be anything. This could be my neighbor's.

• 2:18:35Speaker 00

  Yeah. I want to clean it up. I, I want to clean up my phone so bad. I just haven't been able to pull the trigger. Like all the apps that I just never, ever use, just delete them. But you guys know like how it goes with the phone is that if you delete a bunch of apps, then the apps that you do use are not in the place they usually are. And those are all memory of like, I know exactly where to press for this.

• 2:18:55Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:18:56Speaker 00

  So I'm fucked.

• 2:18:57Speaker 03

  Then you're, yeah, then you're screwed. And you're just, everything needs an app now. Too many apps.

• 2:19:02Speaker 00

  Too many apps. Okay. Good Firefly.

• 2:19:04Speaker 04

  Yeah. You guys, I think you guys should watch out. We're in a bad spot.

• 2:19:06Speaker 00

  I think we're fine.

• 2:19:07Speaker 03

  I, I agree. I agree, Zach.

• 2:19:09Speaker 04

  Did you guys see the hand?

• 2:19:11Speaker 03

  I actually have not seen the hand yet, no.

• 2:19:12Speaker 04

  Well, I'll show you guys a hand later. It's terrifying.

• 2:19:15Speaker 05

  Send me the hand on Twitter.

• 2:19:16Speaker 04

  X1, yep.

• 2:19:17Speaker 03

  If they really want to make some money from the freaks, they would go just the foot.

• 2:19:21Speaker 00

  Can I, can I say something real quick, Zach? I think I've, I've just resigned myself to being the guy that is just not going to concern himself with any future problems. And then when the future problem arrives, I will be first in line being like, why didn't anyone warn us of this? So like AI, robots, climate change, all this shit. I don't think about it. I don't worry about it. But when the day comes that it actually is a big problem, I'll be the first to complain and be like, why didn't anyone tell us? Even though people have been telling us all along.

• 2:19:56Speaker 04

  Ignorance is bliss until you find yourself bunkerless.

• 2:19:59Speaker 00

  Right. Like, so I, I'm fully aware that I should be paying more attention to it, but I've opted out. And then the next time I opt in will be purely to complain and blame everyone else around me for not alerting me, even though they did.

• 2:20:13Speaker 04

  I kind of like, you should probably stay opted out because opting in has just been nothing full of paranoia and anxiety.

• 2:20:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, doom. Yeah. What?

• 2:20:21Speaker 05

  You're a paranoia and anxiety guy.

• 2:20:23Speaker 00

  That's true.

• 2:20:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're talking about.

• 2:20:24Speaker 05

  Everything is paranoia and anxiety.

• 2:20:26Speaker 04

  We're talking about robot armies though, Max. If that's not something that kind of checks the box.

• 2:20:30Speaker 05

  So many things.

• 2:20:32Speaker 04

  Right now it's robot armies though, and those are terrifying.

• 2:20:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.

• 2:20:36Speaker 06

  Zach sent me news from two years ago.

• 2:20:38Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:20:39Speaker 06

  Uh, I had a little stomach ache on Monday.

• 2:20:41Speaker 04

  That's true.

• 2:20:42Speaker 06

  And he sent me a video that said you could get listeria from queso. So I thought I had listeria for five minutes, but it was from 2024.

• 2:20:51Speaker 00

  So wait, you can't get listeria from queso?

• 2:20:54Speaker 05

  I think there was a listeria outbreak in queso in 2024. And memes' stomach was hurting from eating too much queso Sunday night.

• 2:21:02Speaker 04

  I was just trying to find queso relative illnesses. And I was like, well, it could be this. But then it was two years ago. But I mean, queso does have dairy, so you could always get listeria from queso.

• 2:21:10Speaker 00

  Well, I, I should just do my fire fest right now because that was my fire fest was that on Sunday night, uh, memes, uh, ordered. We, we, so every, every Sunday we order food, we order dinner together and memes is in charge of it.

• 2:21:23Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:21:23Speaker 00

  And let me just first say, uh, thank you, memes. You do a great job. And it's not an easy job because you get people like Shane who just never reply. That, that, that's hard. But you ordered Mexican food. We all got Mexican food and I just assumed chips and salsa was just guaranteed.

• 2:21:42Speaker 03

  More than that, chips and queso.

• 2:21:43Speaker 00

  I didn't, I didn't.

• 2:21:44Speaker 03

  They've got the best queso in the city.

• 2:21:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, and but I didn't have to, I didn't think I had to say something about that. Apparently I do. Cause we didn't get chips and salsa or chips and queso. And then memes ordered it later and it's like, dude, the moment's passed.

• 2:21:58Speaker 03

  You can't have dessert.

• 2:21:59Speaker 06

  And then I got sick from it.

• 2:22:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, but what do you, can we just establish that like that's when you get, when we get Mexican, it is always chips and salsa goes with it or chips and queso.

• 2:22:11Speaker 06

  I agree. I was also leaving my apartment and was waiting for everybody to text.

• 2:22:16Speaker 00

  I already blame Shane for not replying.

• 2:22:18Speaker 06

  We need to establish that once, once we write orders, you, you have a five, 10 minute window.

• 2:22:25Speaker 00

  I like that.

• 2:22:26Speaker 06

  To send it in.

• 2:22:26Speaker 00

  I like that.

• 2:22:28Speaker 05

  Gotta be at least 10.

• 2:22:29Speaker 00

  But that also has nothing to do with you forgetting the chips.

• 2:22:33Speaker 06

  I was just waiting for Shane.

• 2:22:35Speaker 03

  I also think. You were thinking about the chips.

• 2:22:37Speaker 05

  I like when you're down to blame.

• 2:22:38Speaker 03

  And then you waited too long for Shane and it, it, it flew out.

• 2:22:41Speaker 06

  And I had to go, submit order.

• 2:22:43Speaker 00

  All right. I think it should, going forward, it should be a 10 minute clock and then you just order, cause we do order from pretty much the same place every time. It's just, it goes back to your last order. You just order it. You know what I mean? Shane doesn't reply, he just gets what he ordered last time.

• 2:22:59Speaker 03

  You just do a double of the person that sits closest to that person.

• 2:23:02Speaker 00

  Mm hmm. I like that.

• 2:23:03Speaker 03

  And then you gotta eat what your neighbor's eating.

• 2:23:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:23:05Speaker 05

  Oh, that was also.

• 2:23:08Speaker 05

  When Hank just said two bowls and he thought that, that pissed me off.

• 2:23:13Speaker 05

  We were all putting in our orders and then everyone, one person said bowl, one person said burrito, one person said tacos and Hank just goes two bowls. And I was like, wow, all right, Hank, we, we in bulking, we, we in bulking season for the summer right now? And he was like, no, I just wanted it to add on to, to the other person's bowl and make it look like two total bowls.

• 2:23:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, that was confusing.

• 2:23:36Speaker 05

  That pissed me off. We gotta clean it up.

• 2:23:37Speaker 00

  Boys, as a team, I think we gotta do better and that's, this isn't all on memes. Cause again, memes has a tough job, but I think we all need to take personal accountability when it comes to ordering and, and how we, uh, go back and forth.

• 2:23:49Speaker 06

  Also, to my credit, you guys suck at ordering.

• 2:23:52Speaker 00

  I think maybe you should just, maybe you should just surprise us every Sunday now.

• 2:23:56Speaker 06

  Cause sometimes like.

• 2:23:57Speaker 05

  I'm down for that. That sounds fun.

• 2:23:59Speaker 00

  Yeah. Surprise us because it is, it is a long drawn out process of like, no one wants to make a decision.

• 2:24:05Speaker 05

  Although then you turn into Jack McCarthy.

• 2:24:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:24:08Speaker 05

  Gets absolutely crushed when.

• 2:24:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. He orders something bad.

• 2:24:11Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:24:12Speaker 06

  We have to guess. Like Zach was like, I'll take an Azteca bowl and then you click on that Azteca bowl. And then there's like chi- chicken, steak, shrimp, like you got, you guys just gotta be specific.

• 2:24:23Speaker 05

  I always send you screenshots. I, I go into the app and I send a screenshot of exactly what I want.

• 2:24:28Speaker 00

  Alright, goodbye Max. Also, we did a homerun derby on Wednesday and I have no power left in my body.

• 2:24:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't feel, I don't feel great today.

• 2:24:34Speaker 00

  We're finally getting to the point of, uh, where age is really like, I just don't, I, I can still swing. I can still make contact, but I just don't feel any power.

• 2:24:43Speaker 05

  Not me.

• 2:24:44Speaker 03

  You don't feel good about anything. Yeah. When it, when, even when I make contact and it goes a long way, it's like that, was it worth it? Maybe not.

• 2:24:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:24:51Speaker 05

  I won.

• 2:24:53Speaker 00

  You did win. You beat a bunch of.

• 2:24:54Speaker 03

  I was rooting for you.

• 2:24:55Speaker 00

  Old fat guys.

• 2:24:56Speaker 05

  I mean, we, we beat Jason Kipnis and a All-American.

• 2:25:00Speaker 03

  A guy that's gonna be drafted next year.

• 2:25:01Speaker 00

  Jason Kipnis hadn't swung a bat in five years.

• 2:25:03Speaker 03

  Max beat a 17 year old in sports yesterday.

• 2:25:05Speaker 00

  Yeah. And a guy hadn't swung a bat in five years.

• 2:25:08Speaker 05

  Jason Kipnis, two-time All-Star, 10-time. MLB, MLB player.

• 2:25:13Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:25:15Speaker 00

  Just shout out Jason Kipnis.

• 2:25:16Speaker 05

  Shout out, he's the man. He's the man. Great dude.

• 2:25:20Speaker 03

  Also, Tate can really scout 17 year olds. That's what he's born to do, I guess. I, I didn't know that.

• 2:25:24Speaker 05

  That's one thing that we learned.

• 2:25:25Speaker 03

  That's not something I, that you know about your boy? And he just shows up with the, the strongest 17 year old in the world?

• 2:25:32Speaker 00

  The, the levels to it, cause I was wondering, cause Kipnis, I hit him up and I was like, hey, can you come do this? He's like, yeah, I'm in. I just, you know, I haven't swung a bat in, in five years. So when he came, his first like 10 swings weren't great. And then he found it. The two moments where it was like, oh shit, here are the levels to it. One was when we did opposite field and he was just like, all of us were kind of struggling to like, you know, figure out like aim it. He just got up there and just was hitting nukes oppo and then the bunt. He just deaded every single bunt. It's like, oh yeah, this guy's done everything on a baseball field.

• 2:26:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:26:05Speaker 00

  All right, PFT.

• 2:26:06Speaker 03

  Uh, my first fire fest of the week is I tried to be a mechanic and everything went really, really wrong.

• 2:26:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:26:13Speaker 03

  I'm not talking about my El Camino. Uh, so I, I got a golf cart. I love my golf cart. It's fun to drive around in. And, uh, it's a six seater. So it's like a, a stretch one. It's a big boy. Problem with it, when you start going up hills, you lose some of that miles per hour. You, you crawl down to like eight, nine miles an hour. So you feel like i- if there's enough people in the cart, you feel like you're never going to get over the hill. So I thought, you know what? Maybe I'll trade in the golf cart and get some, a little more horses. Get someone with some more speed. And, uh, then my buddy, Pat the Beeve, he hit me up and he was like, hey, do you want to soup that thing up? I was like, when a guy asks you, do you want to soup up your golf cart? You say, yeah, you're goddamn right. I want to soup up the golf cart.

• 2:26:55Speaker 03

  So I, I didn't know what it was going to entail, but he goes online. He ordered a, a giant lithium battery. And then he ordered something called a solenoid and a heavy duty motor controller. Then we proceed to take my golf cart apart on Saturday. He gets there at about like 3:30 PM. We get all the tools out. We start ripping the seat off. We take all the paneling off to get to the wires. We start soldering wires together.

• 2:27:24Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 2:27:25Speaker 03

  I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

• 2:27:26Speaker 00

  Soldering is a, that's when you've gone too far.

• 2:27:29Speaker 03

  He's got a soldering gun or soldering, whatever you call it. We're ripping wires out. We're screwing shit in. I'm, I'm afraid I'm going to get electrocuted every single step of the way. Um, and then about 12 hours later, we're like, we're not really any, any closer than we were when we started. So we go to bed.

• 2:27:47Speaker 05

  When you brought out the solder gun, did you think it was actually going to work?

• 2:27:50Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:27:51Speaker 05

  At some point along this process, you should have been like, we need to cut our losses. There's no way that the outcome of this is going to be good.

• 2:27:58Speaker 03

  So this is like, it's, it's a hobby for him. He likes, he likes tinkering with stuff and I'm, I'm trying to learn.

• 2:28:03Speaker 00

  Soldering is a hobby.

• 2:28:04Speaker 03

  Soldering is, is a bridge too far where I'm actually like melting wires together and then wrapping them up and then tying them together.

• 2:28:12Speaker 05

  As soon as I pulled that thing out, I would be like, I gotta call somebody. This is way above my pay grade.

• 2:28:18Speaker 03

  But we're having a good time. We're in the garage. We got, yeah, it's just guys in the garage, Max. You want to understand?

• 2:28:23Speaker 05

  I know. Yeah, you're right.

• 2:28:24Speaker 00

  So you fix your golf cart?

• 2:28:25Speaker 03

  So we spend about, um, Spent about 12 hours on Saturday and uh we've got the World Cup games on in there. We've got the UFC fight going and it's about, I don't know, 2 o'clock in the morning and we're like, we should probably go to bed. And then we wake up in the morning, go back to it, spend another like 5 hours on Sunday morning, working on this thing. Finally get to a place where we've got everything connected and then the moment of truth, you put the key in and you turn it, absolutely zero power. Absolutely, nothing, nothing is happening with this thing. And uh at that point, I was just like, I don't even know where to start. Like, I don't know what went wrong. I don't know how to diagnose what went wrong.

• 2:29:09Speaker 03

  But I just spent probably a good, I don't know, 17 hours. I started with a perfectly fine golf cart. I want to be clear about that. On Saturday morning.

• 2:29:18Speaker 00

  Just slow, just a little slow.

• 2:29:20Speaker 03

  On uphills, on like steep uphills. But I had a perfectly fine golf cart that was running. I, I could have used that golf cart for the rest of my life and probably been pretty happy with it. And then by the end of it, now I have like the Flintstones car with no seats, because I ripped the seats out. Um, the dashboard and the steering panel is off. Uh, the battery has been removed. And I basically tore out all the electric guts of the car and they're sitting on the chair. And um then I had to call an adult and I had to call a golf cart repair company to come to my house and pick up my golf cart. And I had to, I had to ask the guy, I was like, hey, we thought we could do this on our own. We, we couldn't.

• 2:30:02Speaker 03

  And then I got big time judged. Then I called the golf cart place today to check in on my baby. I'm juggling a lot of things, by the way. I'm about to pick up the El Camino. I've got the golf cart. Now the golf, the fucking golf cart's the new El Camino. So that's in the repair shop. So I called up the repair shop today and I was like, hey, just check it in, see if you need like any more info from me about the work that we did. Because we put a lot of work into it. Not sure if you guys are familiar with the tools we were using.

• 2:30:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:30:29Speaker 03

  And uh they're like, yeah, you know, we're probably not going to get around to that till next week. So I've just been sitting there for the last 4 days. I have no golf cart now. I'm golf cartless and uh. I guess I, I guess I learned a lesson, kind of. I don't know. It was fun.

• 2:30:44Speaker 05

  What was their reaction when they saw the state of the current golf cart? And you told them what you did all weekend?

• 2:30:50Speaker 03

  The guy goes, oh, wow.

• 2:30:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:30:54Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. He gave me an oh, wow. And I was like, no, it's not that bad. Cause like I, everything that I took off, I put in this plastic bin right there. And then I, I, all the panels and stuff from the side, those are right here. The seats are over here. The six batteries that I pulled out, those are over there. Um, so, and we did like 95% of the work. He just has to probably like.

• 2:31:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. He's just gonna, you loosened it.

• 2:31:16Speaker 03

  Yeah. He has to change one wire and then like, but I'm telling you, once.

• 2:31:19Speaker 00

  Probably just has to plug it in.

• 2:31:21Speaker 03

  Once this thing get, yeah. Once it gets back, it's going to be going like upwards of 30 miles an hour.

• 2:31:26Speaker 05

  So they are gonna put the upgrades into it?

• 2:31:28Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:31:29Speaker 05

  Okay. I wasn't sure if they were just trying to get it working again.

• 2:31:32Speaker 03

  No, they, they gotta put the upgrades in it. I was, I was very, very clear with that. So yeah, I basically spent like $3,000 and about 17 to 18 hours of my life, uh, to destroy my own golf cart.

• 2:31:46Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 2:31:48Speaker 03

  And then, then I found out that Pat the Beeve didn't tell Kate where he was going the entire weekend.

• 2:31:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:31:54Speaker 03

  And so he could, he showed up at my house. I was like, are you gonna stay over here tonight? He was like, you're goddamn right. I'm gonna stay over. We're gonna work on this fucking thing. And then I found out that, uh, that she didn't know where he was and the kids were like, where's daddy? And she's like, I don't know. He took his car.

• 2:32:08Speaker 00

  Working on a golf cart.

• 2:32:09Speaker 03

  To go work on a golf cart somewhere.

• 2:32:12Speaker 00

  It's real man shit.

• 2:32:12Speaker 03

  Real man shit. But I do feel like I, I learned something this weekend.

• 2:32:16Speaker 00

  Which was?

• 2:32:17Speaker 03

  Call an adult to make repairs.

• 2:32:19Speaker 00

  Or just buy a new golf cart.

• 2:32:20Speaker 03

  Yeah. Buy.

• 2:32:20Speaker 00

  Buy a better golf cart.

• 2:32:21Speaker 03

  I started to think after about hour 12, I was just, I started to look up golf carts on time. Cause right now I might, I might just buy a new golf cart and not even trade in, just be like, keep the old one.

• 2:32:32Speaker 00

  Yeah. Cause they make sick ones.

• 2:32:33Speaker 03

  I gotta, I gotta write this off. Let's just call it a wash. I fucked up.

• 2:32:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. Um, okay. Anything in the booth? You guys good?

• 2:32:40Speaker 05

  Uh, yeah, I got my identity stolen.

• 2:32:42Speaker 00

  I still don't believe it. I think you just bought four phones randomly one day, two years ago.

• 2:32:49Speaker 05

  Stop saying that because there's a little part in the back of my head that is still believes that that is to be true.

• 2:32:56Speaker 03

  Wait, Max, were you, you needed some recommendations to host a podcast on Google and Amazon?

• 2:33:02Speaker 05

  What?

• 2:33:03Speaker 03

  Is that what it was? And you clicked that link?

• 2:33:05Speaker 00

  No, he actually got he.

• 2:33:07Speaker 05

  No, I actually got my.

• 2:33:08Speaker 00

  Someone, someone bought four phones and then closed the account.

• 2:33:12Speaker 03

  Four years ago?

• 2:33:13Speaker 05

  So I'm in the beginning process of looking to buy a home here in Chicago and I met with a lender and he was like, your credit's like, not very good. Like, what's going on here? And then I did a deep dive into my credit and someone opened up a,

• 2:33:33Speaker 05

  somebody opened up a phone line under my identity, like not, not my name, just, I think just my identity.

• 2:33:42Speaker 03

  That would be your name?

• 2:33:43Speaker 05

  But no, because when I asked them, they're like, you don't have any accounts under this name.

• 2:33:47Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:33:47Speaker 05

  But then when they did it like a credit, a credit check, they were like, oh yeah. There was an account that was open for 30 days. They opened it, got four phones, closed it right away. And you've owed $5,000 every month for the past two years.

• 2:34:03Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 2:34:03Speaker 05

  So it has absolutely tanked my credit. So I spent the entire day yesterday, filing claims, filing a police report, this, this and that. And my credit still fucking sucks right now. And I still don't have an answer. And all of their replies are like, yeah, we'll get back to you when we get back to you.

• 2:34:21Speaker 00

  But what, couldn't you find the answer by just looking it up on one of your four phones?

• 2:34:26Speaker 05

  I don't have the, I didn't, I didn't get those phones. I don't know how it happened. There must've been some like deal with Verizon in 2024 where it was like, sign up now. No, like, don't have to put your card down at sign, at signing. And then the guy did that, got a bunch of phones and then canceled it before you do actually have to put your phone down.

• 2:34:47Speaker 03

  And he walked in there and he said, my name is Max DeLente.

• 2:34:50Speaker 05

  I don't know. I don't know how it happened.

• 2:34:51Speaker 00

  He did. He walked in, didn't say his name. He said, this is my social security number and it was Max's.

• 2:34:56Speaker 05

  I was calling these people from Verizon yesterday and they were like, oh yeah, so we'll just take this payment now. And I'm like, I haven't been a Verizon customer at like ever like I this isn't me. I didn't buy these phones and they were like, oh, okay, I have to send you to a different department now. And that department was like, okay, so we'll just take the 5,000 and I'm like, I was like, no, I need to file a claim. This isn't me. This is identity theft and it sucked.

• 2:35:23Speaker 03

  I need to find the surveillance footage of the guy that walked in and got these phones. It's probably deleted, but I would, I would love to see the fake Max Delante.

• 2:35:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, I, I don't know.

• 2:35:33Speaker 06

  Or the real one.

• 2:35:34Speaker 05

  Yeah. Meme just keeps telling me that, that I, that I'm a forgetful guy.

• 2:35:37Speaker 00

  I 100% think you just bought off.

• 2:35:37Speaker 03

  Uh, Max, this is how long ago?

• 2:35:40Speaker 05

  2024.

• 2:35:41Speaker 03

  Would you say that you, uh, you drank a lot of beers in 2024?

• 2:35:44Speaker 05

  No, I went back and looked at my calendar on, on the day, on the day that it happened. It was a Monday, Big Cat and I did a meet and greet.

• 2:35:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, which he needed to take pictures at.

• 2:35:54Speaker 03

  Are you sure that it wasn't, uh, cause I've been around you when you lost your phone before.

• 2:35:57Speaker 05

  I know. Meme said the same.

• 2:35:59Speaker 03

  You got a history of losing your phone.

• 2:36:00Speaker 06

  Bought four phones.

• 2:36:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:36:03Speaker 05

  Meme said the same.

• 2:36:04Speaker 06

  Two sodas, four phones.

• 2:36:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:36:06Speaker 04

  If it's got all your information, but not your name, maybe like the phone salesman just fat fingered some other guy's social.

• 2:36:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:36:11Speaker 06

  And he got four phones.

• 2:36:12Speaker 03

  I gotta say, whoever the thief was, whoever is, is the fraudster, he picked the absolute best.

• 2:36:18Speaker 05

  He did. He really did.

• 2:36:20Speaker 03

  Four years.

• 2:36:21Speaker 05

  No, two years, two years.

• 2:36:22Speaker 03

  He got away with it for two years, four phones.

• 2:36:25Speaker 05

  Four phones, two years.

• 2:36:26Speaker 03

  Talk about scot free. That guy, that guy, man, bank off you, Max.

• 2:36:31Speaker 04

  It's a full family plan.

• 2:36:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:36:33Speaker 04

  It's good run.

• 2:36:34Speaker 03

  If anybody out there is looking to fraud someone, if you're.

• 2:36:37Speaker 05

  Come on, really? This is, this is just not something that we need to be saying on these airwaves.

• 2:36:42Speaker 03

  Max is the easiest mark in North America. That's what I'm saying.

• 2:36:47Speaker 00

  And we'll add in the bonus of memes and I will try to gaslight into him thinking that he actually did it.

• 2:36:53Speaker 05

  So I had a serious talk with Zach. I was like, there's no way I actually did this.

• 2:36:57Speaker 00

  I think you did.

• 2:36:58Speaker 04

  There was a second where Max was doing the police report and he had to pull out his driver's license. He was like, wait, am I? Could I be in trouble if I bought these phones?

• 2:37:06Speaker 03

  He is such, he is such a good target that not only will he get away with it for two years, but then after those two years are up, he'll raise his hand, take responsibility for what you've done. He's the best.

• 2:37:16Speaker 05

  I just hope my credit gets fixed.

• 2:37:18Speaker 00

  All right. Numbers. Good show, boys. Eighty-eight.

• 2:37:22Speaker 05

  Fifty-one.

• 2:37:25Speaker 04

  Eighteen.

• 2:37:39Speaker 00

  Sixty-five. Anyone?

• 2:37:40Speaker 05

  Sixty-five.

• 2:37:43Speaker 00

  All right, one more, one more.

• 2:37:44Speaker 03

  One more, one more, one more, Zach.

• 2:37:47Speaker 04

  Eighteen. Good number.

• 2:37:51Speaker 00

  Zach, have you done this?

• 2:37:53Speaker 05

  Have you gotten a big gap?

• 2:37:54Speaker 00

  I have multiple times.

• 2:37:55Speaker 05

  Oh, cool.

• 2:37:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:37:57Speaker 04

  You got your identity stolen, man?

• 2:37:59Speaker 05

  Yep. Well, yeah, you say I have.

• 2:38:02Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 2:38:03Speaker 00

  Forty-three.

• 2:38:04Speaker 04

  Forty-three. Anyway.

• 2:38:05Speaker 05

  Forty-three.

• 2:38:06Speaker 04

  Forty-three.

• 2:38:06Speaker 03

  So, Terrance Rolls?

• 2:38:09Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 2:38:10Speaker 03

  Happy birthday to Connor Bedard. Happy birthday to OG Ananobi. Happy birthday, Bam Adabio. Happy birthday to the Boozer Twins. Happy birthday, Hunter S. Thompson.

• 2:38:25Speaker 05

  It's also Leonard Weaver.

• 2:38:26Speaker 00

  Anybody else?

• 2:38:27Speaker 03

  Uh, happy birthday to the Island Boys. They really suck each other off.

• 2:38:33Speaker 00

  They suck each other off?

• 2:38:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think they did.

• 2:38:35Speaker 00

  I think they did.

• 2:38:36Speaker 03

  More like the Bi- Bi-land Boys.

• 2:38:41Speaker 03

  Love you guys.

• 2:40:41Speaker 03

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