BONUS PREVIEW: The Republicans forgot how to use the internet

On Tuesday’s midterms, the Democrats were finally not in disarray — and despite all the handwringing, we got a blue tsunami that was “too big to rig.” How did they do it, or perhaps more importantly, how did the Republicans mess this up so badly? Ryan & Grant analyze the election results and submit that the GOP got too bad at the internet. Liberals abandoning Twitter after it became X left right-wingers in an echo chamber where they had no one to fight but themselves, and neglected all the other platforms they should’ve been focusing on. Plus, are Democrats going through the party transformation the GOP did in the mid-2000s (except in a good way)? And is Trump really Hitler, or is he more like the kaiser who leads to the real baddie? This is a preview from our Patreon. Want to hear the rest of the conversation, and enjoy other ad-free episodes, bonuses & exclusives, and access to our members-only Discord? Sign up for a membership for just $6.66 a month at https://www.patreon.com/PanicWorld. ⁠Buy tickets to Panic World’s FIRST-EVER LIVE SHOW⁠ on November 28 in NYC! Along with Katie Notopoulos, the Garbage Media team will inflict the worst things on the internet in 2026 upon an unsuspecting Grant. Get your tickets here, sickos: ⁠https://caveat.nyc/events/garbage-day-worst-things-on-the-internet-2026-2026-11-28⁠ Credits - Host: Ryan Broderick - Producer: Grant Irving - Production Coordinator: Josh Fjelstad - Researcher: Adam Bumas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:59Ryan Broderick?

  The Republicans got completely trounced in the midterms. That's right, woke's back on the table, boys. But why? Well, according to data we have, it seems like Republicans completely forgot about using Instagram where real people are. We're gonna talk about that and more on today's episode, breaking down what exactly went wrong for the Republicans during the midterms.

• 1:20Speaker 03

  Ryan Broderick.

• 1:22Ryan Broderick?

  Yes.

• 1:24Speaker 03

  Do you know what's more embarrassing than being a podcaster?

• 1:28Ryan Broderick?

  Uh, no, there's nothing. What do you mean?

• 1:33Speaker 03

  Being the Vice President of the United States and wishing you were a podcaster.

• 1:38Ryan Broderick?

  Yeah. I was thinking about this. I was thinking about sort of the, um, the life of J.D. Vance. Have you ever read the end of From Hell?

• 1:52Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah, I have.

• 1:54Ryan Broderick?

  You know, when the oligarch guy is naked and suffering from dementia in a jail cell at the very end? Spoilers from, for From Hell, by the way. It's heavily implied, I think the comic even just says that he's actually Jack the Ripper, like has been facilitating Jack the Ripper. Anyways, he's sort of suffering from dementia and he sees his whole meaningless life. He sort of has like a Billy Pilgrim falling through time thing. And then he gets jettisoned into the future. And the punchline of this giant tome is that all of his horrific murders will sort of be forgotten in this weird way, you know, sort of lost to the dustbin of history.

• 2:35Ryan Broderick?

  And, and I sort of feel like a lot of Republicans are having that exact experience this week, that like all of their machinations are for nothing. And I think, I think probably figured out that his political career is over.

• 2:48Speaker 03

  I'm Grant Irving. This is Panic World, a show about how the internet warps our minds, our culture, and eventually reality. And joining me, a guy who's super limping out, he's just taken off his pink knit cap, Ryan Broderick. Welcome to your show.

• 3:04Ryan Broderick?

  I'm happy to be here. I'm also like, you know, I guess to pull back the curtain a little bit, um, our researcher Adam and I, we don't sort of prepare for breaking news events the way like a normal newsroom would probably, uh, where it's like, you know, you're just kind of gonna follow the action. And you're not going into it with any kind of expectations, you know, other than like what happens in every kind of type of breaking news cycle. Like everyone knows, like, a mass shooting is covered this way, an election is covered this way, blah, blah, blah, blah. A famous celebrity death is covered this way. Adam and I go into most large planned breaking news events with, did we see this correctly? Like, so like, we're looking for like-

• 3:47Speaker 03

  I told you so. We're only looking-

• 3:50Ryan Broderick?

  No, no, cuz I'm very clear about this. I am always more interested in when I got it wrong. I don't claim to be able to see the future. I don't want to sort of make that my business. I think the people who do that are dopes. But I'm always interested in-

• 4:04Speaker 03

  How's Nate Silver doing today?

• 4:05Ryan Broderick?

  I don't know. I, you know what? I've done nothing but stare at the internet for like 72 hours now, haven't seen one post from him, actually.

• 4:14Speaker 03

  It's actually, it's actually the absence of posts.

• 4:18Ryan Broderick?

  What's even crazier is-

• 4:19Speaker 03

  It's the silence of the piece.

• 4:20Ryan Broderick?

  You know when shit's good, cuz you flip to the following tab on X from the, from the For You tab. And I follow Nate Silver and I still haven't seen anything from him. So whatever it is, it's getting buried. But, no, so we went into the election being like, okay, we were assuming a blue wave. My girlfriend was getting a little nervous and I was like, no, I think it's gonna be a blue wave. And she's, and then she's like, maybe it will be, and she kind of oscillated back and forth. And I was like, no, it's gonna be a blue wave. And, and then, so the question was, what caused the blue wave? And I am, I am happy to say that we did notice earlier this year, something interesting. And I didn't have the full picture, actually, until I got a bunch of research from GDMI,

• 5:04Ryan Broderick?

  the consulting arm that, uh, that we run out of garbage media, who basically pointed out kind of the thing that was missing for me, which is Instagram and Facebook are local and every other platform is non-local. They don't have a local social graph. I'm getting way ahead of myself and we can go deeper into this, but basically the missing piece for me was, why are Republicans having such a tough time communicating on top of all the other bullshit that's going on with them? And the answer, I think, seems to be that they over-indexed on TikTok-like national algorithmic platforms rather than focusing on localized platforms.

• 5:43Speaker 03

  Well, that's fascinating, but this GDMI you're referring to, that sounds very useful if you're like a nonprofit or a corporation that's not evil. How can, can other people get information that's important to them that, like you just did?

• 6:00Ryan Broderick?

  Yeah, okay, look. Uh, so we, we started a consulting firm like a year and a half ago-

• 6:04Speaker 03

  We've never plugged it on the show.

• 6:06Ryan Broderick?

  Yeah, we started it for a very funny reason, which is I kept getting emails from people being like, hey, the insights in this newsletter are really good, but you keep talking about furries and diapers, can you make a more professional version that I can show my boss? So we started with that and people were kind of bored of it, cuz obviously there was no furries and diapers. So what ended up happening was, uh, my buddy Lester, who I worked with for years in London, he and I were talking and we were like, well, let's just see if we can be consultants. Like, we don't know what that is, but it seems like people do that. And I'm happy to say that for the last year or so, we've had like pretty steady work. I can't talk about all the projects we do, cuz we do sign NDAs for certain clients, but we reveal, you know, we revealed one project on, on Monday of this week, which

• 6:49Ryan Broderick?

  is that for the last year, we've been working for the Transgender Law Center. And the way that we sort of work is we, we do what Garbage Day or Panic World does, but inside of someone's organization. So for the last year, Transgender Law Center's been like, what's the deal with the internet? And we're like, okay, here's what you gotta know. And, you know, what, what questions do you wanna ask the crystal ball? And we published a report on Monday, basically showing that TikTok doesn't have an anti-trans problem, but Instagram does. And that anti-trans problem on Instagram is entirely, is entirely localized. And so we, we spent a while trying to figure out why.

• 7:30Ryan Broderick?

  And basically, Instagram absorbed all of our friends and family into their social graph the way Facebook does.

• 7:40Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 7:41Ryan Broderick?

  But then they stuck a TikTok, like, interface on top of it. So TikTok doesn't know who your friends and family are. It can kind of try to guess, but Instagram definitely does. So what we discovered were all of these anti-trans influencers were trying to like get people activated in their local networks and Instagram was like promoting that. But what's crazy is, it seems like the, the upper echelons of the Trump movement did not realize that they could have detonated this nuclear bomb on Instagram. Like, it actually seems like they were spending more time sharing goofy, dumb memes on X and talking about like AI, you know, anime girls.

• 8:22Ryan Broderick?

  Uh, and, and I think God that they didn't realize that they could have like used Instagram this way. We figured it out.

• 8:30Speaker 03

  Let's, let's dive deeply into all of this.

• 8:32Ryan Broderick?

  Yeah.

• 8:33Speaker 03

  But first, you should probably give Lester's or GDMI's email.

• 8:36Ryan Broderick?

  Uh, you can email Lester at garbage day dot email if you would like to work with GDMI. We also regularly publish kind of like the kinds of research we're allowed to share. I will say, like, we have a, a fairly decent church and state setup. We're sort of constantly trying to make sure that like Garbage Day and Panic World are allowed to like be rude and crazy while GDMI is professional and like, you know, that's all-

• 9:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, I love insulting trans lawyers. That's like my, that's my-

• 9:02Ryan Broderick?

  That's your thing, yeah. Uh, actually, Grant, dime square is over. It's called Chinatown now, again. Uh, you don't get to talk that way on your podcast anymore.

• 9:12Speaker 03

  Hey, I just wanna say that I am so sorry and also apologize for like every episode of this podcast where I have not acknowledged everyone who's lived in this house before me.

• 9:22Ryan Broderick?

  Grant, they're turning basement back into a basement.

• 9:24Speaker 03

  That would ruin my life.

• 9:26Ryan Broderick?

  All of the guys-

• 9:27Speaker 03

  If I have to pay more to get in a basement, if they wanna do the like, if you're, if you're a white guy, you have to pay, like, I'll do that, but if, if basement, I would, I would, I would not continue to exist.

• 9:39Ryan Broderick?

  A weird side effect of woke too is they're getting rid of all the guys that dress like the dichotomy's crazy. So like, if you like listen to like heavy music, but also like Claro, they're putting you in jail.

• 9:52Speaker 03

  Much like J.D. Vance is feeling right now, you know, don't look back in anger, enjoy the time you had in the sun, and, uh, I'll see you once I'm reprogrammed. Uh, okay, so this is, this is fascinating. So you don't think that it's, I mean, cuz there's lots of things that they fucked up in the past two years that would make them highly unpopular, but you think it wouldn't like have just like, oh, it would have been closer, maybe Democrats only won the Senate and not the House. You think like it is an epic fuck-up that, that like they could have kept control of the government?

• 10:28Ryan Broderick?

  We're gonna get a clearer picture, you know, as, as sort of time goes here, but like my immediate sort of understanding of what happened on Tuesday is-

• 10:40Ryan Broderick?

  Republicans have completely lost like all the gains they made with young men. I wrote about this on Wednesday and garbage day. All of the kind of coalition building they've done with young men 18 to 29 since Gamergate has disappeared. And I, and I think that is like almost entirely due to gas prices. I just think that it's as simple as that. There is a, there has been a massive, massive turnout on black voters. Massive. As of one hour ago, we are, we are recording this, it is, it is still not clear if Mississippi has flipped blue, which is an insane sentence to say. But the areas that we're waiting on are heavily black. There, there's a joke going around right

• 11:25Ryan Broderick?

  now that Georgia is run by, is now run by seven women and a guy named Josh. Um, so like you have a bu, you have a huge chunk of young men just like kind of giving up on the Republican Party because the Republican Party is like no longer like helping them feel empowered or whatever. You have black voters just being like, we're not doing this anymore. Uh, it seems like Hispanic voters also kind of realized like, we can't, we can't be in bed with these people anymore.

• 11:54Speaker 03

  Sure, sure.

• 11:55Ryan Broderick?

  Oh, and then you also have data centers being a massive thing for people. You also have Trump kind of only endorsing the worst candidates humanly possible. Um, this was absolutely the problem in Texas, the problem in Ohio. I, I am personally kind of upset that Angie Nixon did not get enough resources from the national democratic kind of organization in Florida. And she managed to like capture Miami Dade as a democratic socialist. I think that's amazing. But, um, it was, it was largely lack of men being interested in voting for Trump and Trump aligned people, Trump endorsing the wrong people, black voters and Hispanic voters being like, we're not doing

• 12:36Ryan Broderick?

  this anymore. And then obviously data centers and, and gas prices in general. What I am saying though with the Instagram thing is that I kind of don't buy the like Republicans have had enough thing. And, and that's just out of like a profound lack of respect for Republican voters. And I kind of think that like if Republicans had been able to spin up some doofy dumb fucking QAnon psyop thing using hyper local Instagram networks, like it would have worked. And, and it, and it's very clear that like trans stuff is not that. Like people don't really give a shit about trans stuff.

• 13:14Speaker 03

  Okay. So I want to push back against this because I like, that's, I, I think they work hand in hand, but I would guess that like, we saw that clip, there, there was a famous clip going around of somebody being like, the, the old white guy being like, a data center here is the first time that like policy is affecting me. Like Trump too has been butlers for business in a way that is unprecedented. And like it pillaged everything enough that it could finally bother, uh, white people and people in Republican strongholds that it was demotivating. And I don't know that a local

• 13:55Speaker 03

  Instagram psyop would have, uh, how much that would have countered that.

• 14:00Ryan Broderick?

  I think you are right. I want, I think maybe I'm not being clear enough. I agree with you that the, this Trump administration has completely forgotten its populist roots. Um, I also think Trump has never been very good at populism. And interestingly enough, like I actually think it's a lot of people around him that sort of fill in the blanks there. I don't think Trump knows what QAnon is. I don't think Trump has ever, I've said this before, I don't think Trump can read. I don't think Trump has ever used a computer. I straight up don't think Trump has read a, a single tweet, uh, even when he had Twitter. I don't think he read anyone else's. Um, I, I think the man is-

• 14:40Speaker 03

  He can read a teleprompter kinda.

• 14:42Ryan Broderick?

  I don't know. Maybe. I don't know. I, I actually have no proof that he's read a teleprompter or a script, actually.

• 14:49Speaker 03

  I'm just imagining that there is actually a good script writer in the Trump department who just keeps using smaller and smaller words and is just like, is like just for a decade of their life, just has whittled down pencils being like, how could I make this man say a word?

• 15:05Ryan Broderick?

  We know now that he has a woman write his true social posts and they also print out a fake TikTok. Have you seen this? They, they print out a fake TikTok feed of posts on paper to show him.

• 15:19Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, otherwise the font's too small, right?

• 15:21Ryan Broderick?

  But that's how he uses-

• 15:22Speaker 03

  The thumbs are too big.

• 15:23Ryan Broderick?

  That's how he uses the internet now. Is like he, which honestly-

• 15:27Speaker 03

  That's not dissimilar to my mom being like Spotify is broken for me because she doesn't know how to make a playlist.

• 15:32Ryan Broderick?

  I mean, ironically enough, I actually think, you know, there's that joke where it's like, if you're rich, you shouldn't use the computer anymore. And, and also like, it's true. Yeah. Harry Styles did an interview the other day where he's like, I don't know where my laptop charger is. I haven't used my laptop in 10 years. I do think at a certain level of wealth, you don't have to use computer anymore. And you shouldn't. And, and Trump has obviously figured out the right way for all rich people to behave, which is not only am I not sending my own posts, I'm not even reading your posts. They're being read to me off a piece of paper. I just don't think he should be posting at all. Like I, I think like, I think, I think rich people should receive a newspaper of posts every morning and then just be like, okay, great. I know what the, I know what the rabble are saying.

• 16:15Speaker 03

  So if X is an information bubble, Trump's information bubble is like a bubble wrapped, like a, a bubble wrapped room wrapped in more bubble. So that it just printed. Yeah.

• 16:27Ryan Broderick?

  Yeah, exactly. And I'm glad, I'm glad you went there because this is, this is the major problem. And this is something that I've had Adam, our researcher, kind of following since Trump 2.0 started, which is the, I saw this term last night, I'm going to use it now. The dark chungus, uh, social media team that has insulated Trump. Uh, I'm going to be using dark chungus, uh, quite a bit now. I love that term.

• 16:51Speaker 03

  If anyone wants to make an alias with the Biden, with the, with the dark Biden eyes, uh, we might put it in a-

• 16:57Ryan Broderick?

  No, no, it's Steven, it's Steven Chung, the, uh, the, the social media manager for the White House. He is dark chungus. He is like epic bacon racist idiot. And, um, he stinks. And everyone that works for him stinks and they suck at their job. And they spent the days leading up to the midterms posting fucking anime AI fan art of female Draco Malfoy on the Department of Education X account. He is dark chungus. He sucks. Anyways, these people are not Steve Bannon. There's a great clip, I talked about it in the newsletter where Steve Bannon like on air discovers they lost men 18 to 29. And it, and it ties into the fact that like they didn't know to use Instagram.

• 17:42Ryan Broderick?

  They don't have a real social media team. And I don't think Republicans, look, to be a Republican, you are either a vampire or a vampire's meat slave. And I just believe in a Republican meat slaves infinite capacity to sort of run defense for their feudal vampire lord that they love. Like I, I'm sorry. And I just don't think data centers or the war in Iran were too much for the average Republican voter. If you had come up with a captivating, you know, story that could spread on the right social networks over the last six months, it would have worked.

• 18:21Speaker 03

  So, so the like, the normie take I've been seeing on this, on this theory was that by everyone leaving X and not being able to like pile on or like, or humiliate and log out different libs on the site, it like turned them against themselves and insulated them too much into a spiral. You're going a step way further that they neglected other platforms and ones that could have been motivating to make it a local primer, a, a local issue that would have motivated them either, uh, according to JD Vance, either to stay at home or voted Republican because

• 19:02Speaker 03

  apparently they flipped. So like they just, like Republicans that have been, that for the past decade, 15 years have been like, since Obama have been trouncing Democrats on how to use the internet, fucked up on how to use the internet in an epic way that you think- No longer reached their people and let them sort of like hang out to dry.

• 19:25Ryan Broderick?

  Kind of yes, but I would put it this way. A bunch of really great pieces I've read this week are all kind of saying the same thing in different ways. One, I thought that was really fascinating was from Vox and it was about the push from certain Democrats to bring Christians back into the democratic establishment. I think you could read that another way, which is Tyler Rico went after local social networks. What is a church other than a local social network? Data centers being a massive driver of sort of local engagement, it's local. I think the trick with the way American society is currently constructed post 2016,

• 20:09Ryan Broderick?

  something that Trump really figured out when he was literally doing his P T Barnum roadshow from town to town in the Rust Belt, is to take the local and tie it to the national and do it in a way that fires people up. And if you do it, it works. And that has been true since 2016. Republicans, because they now have this like stupid insane feed of nonsense, they stare at all day, I think really truly forgot that like Malfoy memes aren't gonna do it. Like, and what's crazy is they were very smart about this two years ago. Like JD Vance was the dude who lit the fire in Springfield, Ohio.

• 20:54Ryan Broderick?

  We went to Minneapolis this year because of Nick Shirley's like Somali daycare expose and the like frenzy it caused afterwards.

• 21:06Speaker 03

  You start a local conspiracy and then it becomes a national story and then the national government intervenes and it feeds the whole plot. Which I would say actually overstepped their hand.

• 21:16Ryan Broderick?

  I think so too. And I think it is, it is sort of all downstream of the same problem, which is they, they care more about big business, they care more about big government, ironically enough. They, they want to please the oligarchs, they want to please the militant fascists. I've heard, I read a report this morning that, you know, Trump behind closed doors has been blaming the election on Stephen Miller's immigration policy because Melania is mad about it.

• 21:49Speaker 03

  Like, I think it was a contributing, I would argue it was a huge contrib- and, and if you want to talk about something local, the way that that upset, it went from theoretical issues to even if you're, even if you're in a deep red state and like suddenly the company that was going to like build your roof no longer exists because that company was raided, it becomes a local issue, it becomes a, a personal thing when like things stop functioning what you consider normal. But it's like, it stops being a spectacle that happened somewhere else.

• 22:24Ryan Broderick?

  I, I saw someone sort of say this, I think on Blue Sky, the new center of the universe, which we'll, we're gonna talk about more in just a second after the break, but they were sort of making the argument-

• 22:33Speaker 03

  Do we have to?

• 22:34Ryan Broderick?

  Yeah, actually we do. But I, you know, I think it's a good time to be on Blue Sky. But, um, because they-

• 22:41Speaker 03

  This is the first good time to be on Blue Sky.

• 22:44Ryan Broderick?

  I didn't say it wasn't annoying to be on Blue Sky. I just think like if your job is to understand the on the ground reality of America, Blue Sky is closer than X. But the thing that I read, which I thought was interesting was like, and I think is accurate, according to the book on this shelf that I have to cover up with a sticker because the spine of it has a swastika on it.

• 23:06Speaker 03

  YouTube, please forgive us.

• 23:08Ryan Broderick?

  The neo Nazis, the Nazis were not popular, straight up. They were never popular. And that is why they invested so heavily in, in propaganda. The Trump administration doesn't have to be popular to run an authoritarian state. Now, obviously, America is very different than Germany. America today is even more different than Germany 100 years ago. It's a very big place, it's a very hard place to take control of, but if you have good enough propaganda, a lot of that work can be done for you. And so the argument that I'm making is that the Republicans got completely obsessed with Elon Musk's little honeypot for them and neglected platforms that probably would have helped them do better in certain races.

• 23:49Ryan Broderick?

  If they had been able to also put together a social media strategy that was not dark chungus bullshit. So that, that is my sort of larger take here.

• 24:00Speaker 03

  I don't know, like, our parents are still looking at like Trump saving kittens in like, you know, a natural disaster and he's like jacked and like,

• 24:11Speaker 03

  social media is just full of people taking things, Blue Sky is full of people taking things from X to just like have outrage, like, is it not infiltrating culture? Like, why, why did it stop working now? And maybe this is the place to unpack this further on the other side.

• 24:26Ryan Broderick?

  Yeah, I will, I will tease with this, which is if you are looking for like

• 24:33Ryan Broderick?

  one website, the way for a while Reddit was the front page of the internet, you know? Or 4chan was sort of the cultural engine of America, or Twitter was the main feed of politics and culture, if you're looking for that right now in 2026, it is not one single website. That said, after the break, I will talk, I will sort of share what, what Adam and I think is going on.

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