Pod Insights Pablo Torre Finds Out Perhaps Our Last Hour on Earth, with Katie Nolan and Michael Cruz Kayne About this episode Civilization had a pretty good run. Will the astronauts be the last ones living? Will Jordon Hudson sue Pablo and/or beat him in a foot race? Could Sam Altman be bigger than Madoff and/or complete our curse on A. I.? And is your fiancé in the Epstein files? WHO KNOWS? But we f'd around and took your questions, live. So, come with us if you want to live. So mote it be.
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• Further reading: "Sam Altman May Control Our Future — Can He Be Trusted?" https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/04/13/sam-altman-may-control-our-future-can-he-be-trusted (Ronan Farrow & Andrew Maran
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1:58 Speaker 02 Welcome to Pop Latore Finds Out. I am Pop Latore and today we're going to find out what this sound is.
2:24 Pablo Torre? So that was, that was, I think justified.
2:27 Speaker 04 Hilarious.
2:29 Speaker 05 One of my favorite bits of humor is the end of the world.
2:34 Speaker 05 You know what I mean?
2:35 Speaker 04 That was the big open you were talking about?
2:37 Speaker 05 It's nice to see you all.
2:38 Speaker 04 Good to see you.
2:38 Speaker 05 In this time and place. I want, can I, can I acknowledge that we were told not to talk right before this, so I had kind of the giddy vibe of a surprise party.
2:45 Speaker 04 Right, and then you, and then you.
2:46 Speaker 05 She's here, she's here, she's here.
2:46 Speaker 04 And then it was that.
2:47 Speaker 05 Yeah.
2:48 Speaker 04 So I was like getting ready to giggle, and then it was that.
2:51 Speaker 05 Surprise, big bomb sounds.
2:52 Speaker 04 So.
2:53 Pablo Torre? I, I think this might, this might be the last thing we do together.
2:56 Speaker 04 Okay.
2:57 Speaker 05 On the, on this plane.
3:00 Pablo Torre? Yeah.
3:00 Speaker 05 But I'll see you in another, in another life, brother.
3:02 Speaker 04 I'll find you guys in every life.
3:05 Speaker 05 Find you in every life.
3:06 Speaker 04 I will.
3:06 Pablo Torre? Should we just acknowledge the, by the way, Michael Cruz, Ken, Katie Nolan, thank you for being here.
3:10 Speaker 05 That's us.
3:10 Speaker 04 Are we live somewhere?
3:11 Pablo Torre? Yeah, we are, I think we are live. Cortez is monitoring the chat. Parkey Cortez.
3:15 Speaker 04 What's up, chat?
3:16 Pablo Torre? Update us. Hamburgers in the chat. We can play directly to goose the engagement to get this thing boosted in the algorithm.
3:23 Speaker 05 Boost, boost it.
3:24 Pablo Torre? Hamburgers in the chat.
3:25 Speaker 04 I'm not going to participate in any of that part of it.
3:27 Speaker 05 I'm only, I'm that part only. I'm only responding to chat.
3:31 Speaker 04 No, I like, I like responding to chat.
3:33 Speaker 05 Oh.
3:33 Speaker 04 Telling them to put hamburgers in the chat.
3:35 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
3:36 Speaker 04 I'm, I don't know what that is.
3:38 Pablo Torre? I was convinced to not do the thing I wanted to do with you guys, which is a big investigative scheme of sorts. We're gonna, we're gonna table that.
3:45 Speaker 05 Okay.
3:46 Pablo Torre? For the time being.
3:47 Speaker 05 Okay.
3:48 Pablo Torre? Because we've been told over and over again on this show that we want to activate the F, the F-surround option, Pablo Torre F-surround.
3:56 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
3:57 Pablo Torre? And it happens to be that we chose that option on the day when the president did truth this.
4:04 Speaker 05 Uh huh.
4:05 Pablo Torre? So I just want to acknowledge that in some ways, this is the worst timing for your friendly neighborhood podcast host. Who wants to read this, just to bring the audio audience in, when this makes it to the Apple Podcast app, if again, we don't do the thing that the first part of the sentence says?
4:24 Speaker 05 A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have complete and total regime change, where different, smarter and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen. Who knows? We will find out tonight, one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world. Forty-seven years of extortion, corruption and death will finally end. God bless the great people of Iran. That's my fucking dog, dude. I love that guy. He rules.
5:01 Speaker 04 Just, I don't know. I feel like we've done a good job of going about our days through a lot of stuff recently.
5:10 Pablo Torre? We had a pretty good run despite everything.
5:12 Speaker 04 And, but today, I do think I reached my breaking point. Today, I think when I woke up and I got that push notification of, uh, got our president logged on to a social media network that only he uses, I think, and said and started a truth with a sentence of, "A civilization will end tonight." Made me like, I'm like sick this, what is going on? And is, is somebody gonna stop it? Like, what are we, what are, I feel like crushed under the weight of like, we, we gotta do something, but I don't know what it is. I don't understand how this, how we're here.
5:52 Pablo Torre? So we're not gonna spend all of our time talking about this because I don't want to spend our last hour on earth talking about how we need to impeach.
5:58 Speaker 04 And thanks for bringing it up, I will say.
6:00 Pablo Torre? I do think we should probably impeach this guy, though.
6:03 Speaker 05 The only thing I want to say about it.
6:04 Pablo Torre? Again.
6:05 Speaker 05 The part of that tweet, or whatever you call it, that I really am fixated on is, all caps, "Who knows?"
6:12 Speaker 04 Who knows?
6:13 Speaker 05 Who knows?
6:14 Speaker 04 And I don't want that.
6:15 Speaker 05 Yeah.
6:16 Speaker 04 I don't want that, but it, it could happen. It's like, uh, this is insane.
6:21 Pablo Torre? It is, it is.
6:21 Speaker 04 Insane.
6:22 Pablo Torre? It's the thing of like, I wanted to zag, and then it was like, I just want the documentary that someone is making about this to not have any ability to avoid the fact that we did acknowledge that we should probably get rid of this guy.
6:37 Speaker 04 Is he talking about someone's making a documentary about this podcast?
6:40 Pablo Torre? Oh yeah, there's a documentarian over there.
6:41 Speaker 05 About this, what's happening right now?
6:43 Pablo Torre? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
6:43 Speaker 05 Whoa.
6:45 Pablo Torre? It's also titled "The Last Dance."
6:47 Speaker 05 Oh.
6:48 Pablo Torre? Um, there are four astronauts, by the way, on this, on this moon mission.
6:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
6:53 Pablo Torre? It's cool that they're gonna be the only people left.
6:55 Speaker 05 They could come back, like Planet of the Apes style, like come back to this planet, and it's all-
7:01 Speaker 04 They better be ready to repopulate.
7:03 Speaker 05 It's all whatever, and they're like, "Oh, when we get back to our home planet," and they realize, "Oh, this is your home planet."
7:06 Speaker 04 Just like in Twilight Zone.
7:08 Speaker 05 Okay, if you say so.
7:10 Speaker 04 Wasn't that in-
7:11 Speaker 05 But I would, I would love to be, now would be the time, of any time to be an astronaut, now would be the time, because at least you're out there.
7:17 Pablo Torre? Yeah.
7:17 Speaker 05 And yes, you are, you know, your toilet don't work?
7:20 Speaker 04 They fixed it.
7:21 Speaker 05 They fixed it?
7:22 Speaker 04 They fixed it.
7:22 Speaker 05 Okay.
7:22 Speaker 04 It was just for the first few hours, which you would hope they went before they left. You would hope they were like, "Hey, before we hop in the thing to go around the moon, everybody pee," you know? And so hopefully they didn't, it wasn't an emergency. They were instructed to pee in bags, which does seem easier for one of the types of astronauts and less easy for the other.
7:41 Speaker 05 But maybe they have, they must, by this point, they must have a, a, a bag that's a unisex bag, or maybe not, maybe two different bags that work equally well for each.
7:50 Speaker 04 Don't they, there's a, a mechanism you can purchase as a woman to pee outside.
7:56 Pablo Torre? Like a little water slide.
7:57 Speaker 04 It's almost like a, it's like a cup, but with a-
8:00 Pablo Torre? It's like a Wizinator, but for girls.
8:02 Speaker 04 What the hell's that?
8:03 Speaker 05 What's a Wizinator?
8:03 Speaker 04 What's a Wizinator?
8:04 Pablo Torre? You guys know what the Wizinator is?
8:05 Speaker 05 Sound off in the chat if you know what a Wizinator is.
8:07 Speaker 04 Hey, chat, what's a Wizinator?
8:08 Pablo Torre? The Wizinator is a device that you can purchase.
8:11 Speaker 05 Okay.
8:12 Pablo Torre? That was used, I believe, and I, because we're live, I gotta Google the athlete's name who I believe used it.
8:17 Speaker 04 Oh.
8:17 Pablo Torre? It is in fact, uh, yes, former Minnesota Vikings running back Ontario Smith, who was caught in 2005 at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport with the original Wizinator. It's a prosthetic device designed to bypass drug tests.
8:30 Speaker 04 Oh, okay, that's the part I was missing. I was like, what are we talking?
8:33 Speaker 05 I thought it was like a, I thought it was just a little pee pee luge.
8:35 Speaker 04 A piss gun?
8:35 Pablo Torre? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a fake penis, a bladder, and some static urine.
8:38 Speaker 04 No, that's not what I was talking about, but I would like to use that, actually.
8:43 Pablo Torre? It's, it's- I mean, I'll show it to you. We can't.
8:46 Speaker 04 No, thanks.
8:47 Speaker 05 That's fine. You don't have to.
8:48 Speaker 04 So let's get into it.
8:49 Speaker 05 You could if you wanted to.
8:50 Pablo Torre? Oh, look, hold on. The Wizner 5000 comes in natural, lifelike skin tones. Black, brown, Latino, tan, and white.
8:57 Speaker 04 Yo, they named him that?
8:59 Speaker 05 That doesn't sound right.
8:59 Speaker 04 They didn't just come up with like a
9:01 Speaker 05 That doesn't sound good.
9:01 Speaker 04 A better shade range than most makeup that comes out now. So that's
9:04 Pablo Torre? Yeah, Michelangelo, Leonardo, Donatello, Raphael. So that is, uh, is not what they used.
9:12 Speaker 04 Okay.
9:12 Pablo Torre? I'm being told in my ear. Um, the, the chat is saying, did Jordon Hudson ever get around to suing any of the people in that studio?
9:19 Speaker 04 She doesn't, she hasn't even addressed me. I don't think she's ever talked to either of us.
9:22 Speaker 05 All, all her animosity, I believe, is pointed toward our friend Pablo.
9:25 Speaker 04 Which I do appreciate. Thank you, queen.
9:27 Speaker 05 Yeah, she's correct about that.
9:28 Speaker 04 Right. We didn't do nothing. We're just here to
9:30 Speaker 05 I'm a, I'm a bi, I'm just here to go, oh, my god.
9:33 Speaker 04 Wow, is that right?
9:34 Speaker 05 Are you kidding?
9:35 Speaker 04 Wow.
9:36 Pablo Torre? That's what people say on the street. Are you the guy who said, oh, my god?
9:39 Speaker 05 Did you ever get sued by Jordon Hudson?
9:42 Pablo Torre? Not yet. Although, again, time, if she's watching, time is
9:46 Speaker 04 Money.
9:47 Pablo Torre? Yes.
9:48 Speaker 05 I maintain that she would be an excellent guest on this show and would be treated with the utmost respect if she were ever to participate in it.
9:55 Pablo Torre? I agree. I sincerely agree. And I'd like to look into the camera. Can we, can we pull me? Yep, there it is.
10:01 Speaker 04 Geez, calling for his own camera.
10:02 Pablo Torre? Jordon Hudson, you're officially invited back onto the show.
10:05 Speaker 04 She knows that. I think she knows that. I don't think she's like, I don't think he'd have me.
10:09 Pablo Torre? Did you know that in the 160 years after the Civil War, US presidents fired 11 four and five star military officers? And in this first 14 months of Donald Trump, the White House has fired nine of them.
10:21 Speaker 05 So the 11 includes the nine? Or it's 11 and then nine more?
10:24 Pablo Torre? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:25 Speaker 05 The second one?
10:26 Pablo Torre? Uh, oh, this is a good, this is a good fact checking question.
10:29 Speaker 05 We'll find out. Someone will know. Someone in the room will know.
10:31 Pablo Torre? In the chat, can the chat fact check whether Donald Trump fired nine of the 11 four and five star military officers in the 160 years after the Civil War? Or if that number of 11 is non-inclusive
10:42 Speaker 05 Right.
10:43 Pablo Torre? Of his personal.
10:44 Speaker 05 Because it's either like 45% of people, or it's like 90% of people, which either way, it's still a lot of the people. But I think the, I was talking about this today with someone. That guy lives in such like a bespoke reality, where like, we, you know, the siloing of everybody, all of our social media, etc. Like, he's getting reports that are only the things that people think he wants to hear, as opposed to every prior president who was getting what someone thought was the news.
11:14 Speaker 04 The important thing.
11:15 Speaker 05 He's getting like, whatever. So, he's doing, he's doing the right thing, as far as he knows.
11:21 Pablo Torre? This reminds me of yet another viewer question that we got recently.
11:24 Speaker 05 Okay.
11:26 Pablo Torre? We throw that on the screen. How would you rate the crowd work on @CruzKane's new stand-up special? Scale of 1 to 10.
11:33 Speaker 04 This reminded me, I was thinking about this same question. Now, um, you did a little crowd work.
11:38 Speaker 05 A tiny bit.
11:39 Speaker 04 But it wasn't a lot.
11:40 Speaker 05 No, I think, I think, well, I think what this person's referring to is a bit very early on in the show, where I say, I'm going, where I ask someone in the audience.
11:48 Pablo Torre? I think this was a very significant piece of the show.
11:52 Speaker 05 I ask, I ask someone in the audience what their name is, and at this point-
11:55 Pablo Torre? Well, do we have the clip?
11:57 Speaker 05 Okay, that's a little heavy. Um, let me lighten it up with some classic comedy stuff, like, um, you, sir, what's, what's your name? Pablo. Pablo, very good. Uh, that is my crowd work. Uh, so that part is kind of closed.
12:14 Speaker 04 I forgot about that. You didn't. You just played the clip where he says your name. It's absurd the way you feed into what everybody thinks you are.
12:23 Pablo Torre? I think I nailed it.
12:23 Speaker 04 It's fucking crazy.
12:25 Pablo Torre? The setup, as well as the dismount.
12:28 Speaker 05 I will also say that I did not, I swear to God, I did not mean to call on you. What happened there is, I looked in the first row, and the first person I saw was my neighbor.
12:35 Speaker 04 We were way too close. We were way too close to you.
12:38 Speaker 05 And then, so I just went to the next row, and I was like, well, I don't, I can't be searching for who to do this with. So then I just went to you, and boom, there you are.
12:44 Pablo Torre? Katie and I were sitting next to each other.
12:46 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm. Now there's evidence of that.
12:48 Pablo Torre? And I, people in the chat are also saying that, uh-
12:51 Speaker 04 You have access to the chat?
12:53 Pablo Torre? Well, Cortez is- Sending me what people are saying. I like Donald Trump, I'm getting a selected version
12:58 Speaker 04 Send me the chat Cortez.
12:59 Pablo Torre? Of the reality that we inhabit.
13:01 Speaker 05 Write the chat on giant cue cards and press them up against the glass over there.
13:04 Pablo Torre? People are saying that Katie's eye contact was not exactly that of someone who was engaged.
13:09 Speaker 04 If you listen to the episode that we did without you on my podcast, which I've since found out you didn't even care to listen to.
13:15 Speaker 05 Didn't even know she had a podcast.
13:16 Pablo Torre? That is non-canonical.
13:17 Speaker 04 Even though he commented like probably hard hands or something on the Instagram.
13:20 Speaker 05 I think he did actually. Because it's exactly hard hands.
13:22 Speaker 04 Didn't even click play. I'm over here doing my makeup and streaming your show.
13:26 Pablo Torre? That was my intern.
13:27 Speaker 04 And you're just like, "Good job everybody." But anyway, I was looking at one of the promo clips that you posted on Instagram and in the promo clip it cuts to an audience reaction shot and Pablo's like looking up and smiling and I'm like looking into middle distance and my first reaction was, "Am I on my phone?" And then my immediate second reaction was, "We were so close to you and you had called on him early and that there's no chance I would have pulled my phone out." Not because I'm a good person, but because I would have gotten caught and made fun of for it endlessly. So then I was like, "Why would I have been looking?" And my best explanation was that now that I go with Dan to his shows a lot and I'm in the back listening to the
14:10 Speaker 04 comedy, sometimes I just like zone out. Not like looking up at you. You weren't doing a lot of physical stuff.
14:17 Speaker 05 Not a lot of gymnastics in the set, okay.
14:18 Speaker 04 You know? And so I think I was probably just like staring into space and listening, which I... I'm sorry I checked my phone during your special. I don't know.
14:26 Speaker 05 You don't have to apologize to me. There's nothing to me more plausible than, I was so locked in that I was looking down the floor.
14:32 Speaker 04 I was locked in! And Pablo was locked in to the camera!
14:35 Speaker 05 I was so into what you were saying that I looked directly away from it. Nothing could be more plausible to me.
14:41 Speaker 04 How was the reaction to the special? Did you get all the flowers and praise that you wanted?
14:46 Speaker 05 Tons of flowers. Honestly, the community of people that surround Dropout, which is the company that produced this, is so like unbelievably supportive and positive.
14:54 Speaker 04 Cool. They seem that way, so it's nice to hear.
14:56 Speaker 05 The only negativity in there at all is...
14:58 Pablo Torre? From Katie's eye contact.
14:59 Speaker 05 No, none, is that in the thread of one of the clips... Clips that dropout posted, people are having a robust argument about veganism and they're really kind of going at each other.
15:11 Speaker 04 When something just kind of takes over a clip of yours, but the notifications stay the same. So you just watch people having an intense debate that has genuinely nothing to do with the original.
15:22 Speaker 05 Every two minutes I get an update about factory farming in a thing that is not really about that at all.
15:27 Speaker 04 At all.
15:27 Pablo Torre? By contrast, what the PTFO community has asked us to look into, uh, do we have that next one here?
15:33 Speaker 04 Oh, no.
15:36 Speaker 04 What? You could break it to Katie that Dan is parentheses technically in the Epstein files and I assume we're talking about Levitard?
15:45 Pablo Torre? We are not.
15:46 Speaker 04 Okay, what's up? Uh, what's going on? What is, what's happening?
15:49 Speaker 05 What is this?
15:50 Speaker 04 Somebody was, wasn't there a thing where they were looking at shows, comedy shows or something?
15:54 Pablo Torre? Let the evidence decide.
15:55 Speaker 04 It's not, this is bullshit what you're doing. Yeah.
15:57 Pablo Torre? Ah.
15:58 Speaker 04 Okay, so it's Jeffrey Epstein to, from, we don't know, but it's to Jeffrey Epstein. It says this forward comedy seller, David Tell, comedy underground life. Shout out David Tell. Uh, this place is great. You'd love it with a smiley face and it's the comedy seller lineup. I assume for that night and I bet in there somewhere is Dan's name.
16:17 Speaker 05 Are we gonna scroll down and see Dan's name?
16:19 Speaker 04 I don't think so.
16:19 Pablo Torre? I think they're gonna attempt to scroll down. Oh, there it is.
16:21 Speaker 04 Oh, here we go. Damn.
16:22 Speaker 05 There he is.
16:23 Pablo Torre? Damn, what does it feel like to be engaged to someone who may have made Jeffrey Epstein laugh uproariously?
16:29 Speaker 04 Oh, it's tough. It's a tough.
16:31 Speaker 05 It's confusing feeling.
16:32 Speaker 04 It's a tough thought, you know, but I do think Dan really, uh, likes to make anybody laugh and unfortunately.
16:38 Speaker 05 Speaking on behalf of Dan.
16:39 Speaker 04 Yeah, if I may, Dan said that he values all of his fans, especially Jeffrey Epstein.
16:43 Pablo Torre? All fans matter.
16:44 Speaker 04 That's right. That's exactly what he said. Quote him on that. Dan Soder, all fans matter, especially Jeffrey Epstein.
16:49 Speaker 05 Did you guys see in the Epstein files where they talk about the black eyed peas?
16:52 Speaker 04 I didn't look at these things at all. I know what's in them. I don't know. I don't need to see it. I don't, are we all digging through them?
16:59 Speaker 05 I was thinking, but I have a friend who, I have a friend who is, who like will come.
17:03 Pablo Torre? One of the black eyed peas?
17:04 Speaker 05 I wish. Oh, my God.
17:05 Pablo Torre? Apple de app.
17:06 Speaker 04 Ah, nobody knows him. That's my line.
17:09 Pablo Torre? He's the Filipino one.
17:10 Speaker 05 What are you nuts?
17:11 Speaker 04 Fuck, of course.
17:12 Speaker 05 He's the most known one. Who are the other ones?
17:14 Speaker 04 How do you even say apple de app?
17:16 Speaker 05 Yes, apple, I believe it's apple de app. Pronounced as almost as if there's an apostrophe.
17:20 Speaker 04 And then will I am, and then Fergie, who's the, who are we missing?
17:23 Pablo Torre? Oh, the Matrix guy?
17:25 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:25 Speaker 05 Might be Matrix guy.
17:26 Speaker 04 It's uh
17:27 Speaker 05 Which I guess is his name?
17:28 Speaker 04 It's like hm hm. That's the way, that's the syllables of it.
17:31 Pablo Torre? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:31 Speaker 04 Short syllable letter.
17:32 Pablo Torre? Taboo!
17:33 Speaker 05 Taboo!
17:34 Speaker 04 Couldn't have been more wrong.
17:35 Pablo Torre? Matrix guy.
17:36 Speaker 05 But um, they talk about the Black Eyed Peas. Okay, what was I gonna say is that I have a friend who is reading the files, just like leisurely, like just like, I have nothing to do for the next few hours, I'm gonna just dive in and read the files. So if I see her, I'll be like, what'd you do today? And she'll be like, I went for a walk, the files for a couple hours, went to the gym, that kind of thing. And she drew my attention to the fact that the Black Eyed Peas, someone is really trying to get Ghislaine Maxwell to listen to the Black Eyed Peas, and that's just kind of a fun thing that happens.
18:05 Speaker 04 Oh, just a fun wrinkle.
18:06 Speaker 05 Some things in the Epstein files are like kind of...
18:08 Speaker 04 Sure, and I, and I would be more inclined to be interested in them if the rest of it didn't make me wanna...
18:14 Speaker 05 And absolutely fair. I think that is totally fair.
18:16 Speaker 04 You know, so I'm doing my best to avoid all stuff that makes me wanna... Because it's a lot, I have, it's a tough time to be depressed, you guys.
18:24 Speaker 05 Is it?
18:25 Speaker 04 It's just not like, it's not chill right now. It's, I'm not looking out at the world and going like, gonna be okay.
18:30 Speaker 05 I feel, I guess it's probably worse.
18:32 Speaker 04 Everything feels really heavy and [BLEEP], so...
18:35 Pablo Torre? I think it's fair to say also that like, as the Epstein files are concerned, just being in them is not proof of anything. Sometimes people are just in it because they got recommended, because Jeffrey Epstein has friends that are saying like, oh, you should look at this cool thing.
18:47 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
18:48 Pablo Torre? And they have like...
18:49 Speaker 04 Why, are you in there too? Yeah, of course.
18:52 Speaker 05 There he is!
18:53 Speaker 04 Isolation play, it isn't Kobe's taunts or humiliating viral videos that have made this the toughest year of Jeremy Lin's life. Do you remember writing that?
19:01 Pablo Torre? Uh, so this, this is allegedly, uh, this is like a roundup of, this is a flipboard email that Jeffrey Epstein...
19:09 Speaker 05 Flipboard!
19:09 Speaker 04 Remember that?
19:10 Speaker 05 Yeah.
19:11 Pablo Torre? Uh, I wrote an article about Jeremy Lin.
19:14 Speaker 05 My man!
19:14 Speaker 04 You're gonna say about Jeffrey Epstein.
19:15 Pablo Torre? About Jeffrey Epstein. Uh, about Jeremy Lin, and what seems to be completely innocent, like, just email, is admittedly undercut by the fact that it's above...
19:28 Pablo Torre? Eight perfect getaways with outdoor showers.
19:29 Speaker 04 Yeah.
19:30 Speaker 05 So wait, what am I looking at? How this is in the files? Someone in Jeffrey Epstein's circle.
19:35 Pablo Torre? I think his Flipboard account got me my writing in there. So.
19:41 Speaker 04 Fun.
19:42 Speaker 05 Did it get the fact that I on Facebook have DM'd Jeremy Lin probably 400 times? I haven't in the last few years, but he used to post Facebook stories. He doesn't anymore, but when he posted Facebook stories, I responded to the stories being like, "Go get him, man." You know what I mean? Just stuff like that.
20:00 Speaker 04 On purpose?
20:01 Speaker 05 You're doing, you're doing it.
20:02 Speaker 04 Oh.
20:03 Speaker 05 No, just little positive affirmations for my boy Jeremy.
20:05 Pablo Torre? Ever hit with the hard hands?
20:07 Speaker 05 Yeah, he never hit me with anything. He had no, no response ever. And you know, more power to him. I wouldn't, I wouldn't have either if I were him. But I was just trying, you know?
20:14 Speaker 04 That's really cute.
20:14 Speaker 05 You're out there, you're out there in China, you're doing it.
20:16 Speaker 04 As been on the receiving end of those, when you post a story, one person responds all the time with little messages.
20:21 Speaker 05 Yeah.
20:22 Speaker 04 That's like such a nicer version of it.
20:24 Speaker 05 Okay, thank you.
20:25 Speaker 04 It's like scary.
20:25 Speaker 05 It's creepy a little bit.
20:26 Speaker 04 It happens to other people too.
20:28 Pablo Torre? But just to confirm, you are reading all of the things?
20:30 Speaker 04 No, not anymore. No, not anymore. I'm not allowed to. I gotta read books instead. I gotta,
20:35 Speaker 05 The only thing.
20:35 Speaker 04 Trying to stay off this thing.
20:38 Speaker 05 It's in her lap.
20:40 Pablo Torre? The phone that has the article about Sam Altman on it that I did read.
20:43 Speaker 04 And I thought I got really deep into that article.
20:45 Pablo Torre? Well, we have another question. We have another question from the viewers.
20:49 Speaker 04 Oh.
20:50 Speaker 05 Oh, here we go.
20:50 Pablo Torre? Thoughts on Sam Altman? More to possibly find out? Question mark. I do think that if you haven't read the Giant New Yorker article that is co-written by Ronan Farrow.
21:00 Speaker 05 I've read 40,000 words of it, which I think is 4%.
21:03 Speaker 04 I thought it was more than enough, and then I found out it's, there's a lot more.
21:06 Speaker 05 Yeah, we've talked about this, I think, on this podcast before, but when you're scrolling and the little cursor, you like, you go like this.
21:12 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:12 Speaker 05 The little cursor goes, you're like, I'm not gonna get to the end of this, I don't think. I'm gonna try.
21:16 Speaker 04 And so much has happened in the little words I've read. It's like, well, I must be towards the end of this article. And it's like, girl, you haven't even started scratching the surface.
21:23 Speaker 05 Yeah.
21:23 Pablo Torre? The quote that I think we can just like pull out for everybody to just like not read it, but get the sense of, is quote, "I think there's a small but real chance he's eventually remembered as a Bernie Madoff or Sam Bankman-Fried level scammer." End quote.
21:38 Speaker 04 Yeah, I was focused in on that, the quote about him being a sociopath.
21:42 Speaker 05 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I think if it's Bernie Madoff, it's gonna be like Bernie Madoff for the whole economy.
21:47 Speaker 04 Yeah, because he really did. Yeah. Well, it's bigger than that.
21:51 Speaker 05 Bigger than Madoff.
21:51 Pablo Torre? Which, which brings up, I think, our... This is a thing that I think we have some culpability for.
21:57 Speaker 05 Me?
21:58 Pablo Torre? Yes.
21:58 Speaker 05 Oh.
21:59 Pablo Torre? Well, me and you and not Katie.
22:00 Speaker 05 Oh.
22:01 Speaker 04 Hell, yeah.
22:01 Speaker 05 What the heck?
22:02 Speaker 04 Love the way this sounds. More of this.
22:04 Pablo Torre? So, on Halloween, people who are in the chat may remember this.
22:10 Speaker 05 Hmm, I see where we're going.
22:11 Pablo Torre? Throw burgers in the chat because Michael Cruz Kane was dressed as a burger. Uh, we invited a literal witch to the studio.
22:19 Pablo Torre? And I was dressed as a tree, I think. Um, remember the witch's name? The award-winning witch?
22:24 Speaker 05 Oh, man. I wish that I did, but I don't.
22:26 Pablo Torre? Lexa Rosiapp.
22:28 Speaker 05 Oh, of course.
22:29 Pablo Torre? Village Voice.
22:31 Speaker 05 I liked her very much. I'll tell you that much.
22:33 Pablo Torre? Award-winning witch. Um, Michael had a suggestion, and we decided not to curse a specific person, but rather an entire... So with this, uh, dramatic music playing underneath us in our post-production
22:49 Speaker 05 Yes, it will be there.
22:50 Pablo Torre? edit, what do we need to do?
22:53 Speaker 06 Oh goddess fortuna, we ask you to protect the fate of mankind and to turn the fortune of AI, cause it to slip up and fail so that it cannot harm humanity.
23:15 Speaker 06 So mote it be.
23:18 Speaker 06 So mote it be.
23:22 Speaker 06 So mote it be. Do you guys want to add any words to that?
23:26 Pablo Torre? May humans...
23:30 Pablo Torre? Masturbate the old fashioned way.
23:32 Speaker 06 Amen. So moated B.
23:33 Speaker 05 And that's beautiful.
23:34 Speaker 06 That is beautiful.
23:35 Speaker 05 So moated B. And, you know, may, uh, may humans reign over technology and not the reverse.
23:45 Pablo Torre? So moated B.
23:47 Speaker 04 And what are we saying there? So moed it B?
23:50 Speaker 05 I believe it's mote, and I have no answers for you on that.
23:53 Speaker 04 So moed it B?
23:54 Speaker 05 I'm just saying, whatever, whatever that gal said, I'm going, that must be right.
23:57 Speaker 04 So moed it B.
23:58 Speaker 05 Can I also say something else about that? Episode that I may have never talked to you about. At the end of that episode, that witch.
24:04 Pablo Torre? Yeah.
24:05 Speaker 04 How dare you?
24:06 Speaker 05 Not derogatory. Not actually complimentary.
24:08 Pablo Torre? Lexa, Rosie Anne.
24:09 Speaker 05 Told us a very specific way to dispose of the [BLEEP] that she gave us.
24:14 Pablo Torre? So we had, so she was, we had created a, a, due to a list of ingredients, a, a, a witch's brew of sorts?
24:21 Speaker 05 Oh, yeah. And she said, this has to be disposed of, I think, like, at the base of a tree. And I'm leaving the studio, and these guys are like, let's just pour it in the, I'm like, [BLEEP] no, no, no, no. No. So I, I ultimately did not see what happened to that stuff. But if anything goes bad with this AI, I think it's totally possible that one of these dudes just threw it down the toilet or something. You know what I mean?
24:43 Pablo Torre? Like Ryan Cortez.
24:44 Speaker 04 Why didn't you take it down to a tree yourself then? You were leaving the building.
24:48 Speaker 05 I don't, I don't want to be, I don't, I didn't want.
24:50 Speaker 04 It's already too late for that.
24:51 Speaker 05 I'm not the one.
24:52 Speaker 04 So moed it B.
24:53 Speaker 05 So moed it B.
24:54 Speaker 04 You gotta take the stuff outside, pour it on a tree.
24:57 Pablo Torre? Maybe I should have. It had been, the mote had been already.
24:59 Speaker 04 You guys are reckless when I'm not here.
25:00 Speaker 05 I'm just saying that, we're gonna remember, we're doing an investig-, Pablo will find out about that.
25:03 Pablo Torre? I, I, I, I think, I think it's working.
25:07 Speaker 05 Could be.
25:08 Pablo Torre? Or the opposite. It is hard to tell whether AI is being undermined by our spell or is taking over everything and in fact is succeeding.
25:16 Speaker 04 What sucks about all of this, all the time now, is that it's either the biggest deal on earth or a bunch of nothing. Everything now is either like, wow, the president either just said he's gonna basically nuke a country, or he's just talking and nothing's gonna happen and it's just to manipulate the markets. Or it's like, the entire economy is wrapped up in. AI, AI is coming, it's gonna take all your jobs. Or it, we don't actually have the tech and they're scrambling to keep. Everything is like, I, I just feel like so quickly. We knew what stuff was and we knew like that is that. And that's a, this is a table and it will always be a table. And I just feel like now everything is a question mark.
25:59 Speaker 04 Which makes it harder to have any linear thoughts because you're like, they can't, you can't build anything on. You're both looking at me like I'm.
26:05 Speaker 05 No, no, I'm with that totally. The way that I feel, the way, no, I'm with that.
26:08 Speaker 04 Okay, okay, I'm just, I'm just, it's a tough day.
26:10 Speaker 05 The way that.
26:11 Speaker 04 So motive B.
26:11 Speaker 05 So motive B.
26:12 Speaker 04 So motive C.
26:13 Speaker 05 The way I feel in that is I have, I was reading an article about. Um, a woman in Tehran who's talking about like, you know, how scared she is. And she's like, I think Donald Trump has lost his mind. And they were basically asking her, what are you gonna do? Like, you're gonna move out of Tehran or where, like, where will you go? And she's like, ah, I mean, what am I gonna do? I'm just kind of here, here's where I live. There's not really a place to go that feels safer than this, so this is where I'm gonna be at. And that's kind of my mind, perhaps not productively is like, well, this is, I, this, this is the world that I got.
26:43 Speaker 04 No, I mean, I've, I have been trying to make my world small, but that, it just feels very selfish. And it's also not good, uh, podcast discussion, but it's been like, if this is, if this is how it's gonna be here outside. Then like when I'm inside with my dog and Dan, we just like, do a lot of like. I don't know, telling each other that we love each other and like hanging out with our dog and like smiling and making each other laugh.
27:04 Speaker 05 Doing puzzles.
27:05 Speaker 04 Doing puzzles, I gave you a puzzle.
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28:42 Pablo Torre? Can I read you guys another quote from the Sam Altman story? Please, please. Because I think the whole thing of it's either the biggest thing or it's also maybe nothing. Nothing, yeah. It brings us to a part of that piece, which is specifically resonant to viewers of this program, perhaps people who've been watching and listening since November of 2023. When we brought up something that I will quote this article in discussing. Quote, "It was announced that Altman had joined the advisory board for NEOM." Oh, boy. "A city of the future that Mohammed bin Salman hoped to build in the desert." "Sam, you cannot be on this board." The policy director, who now works at Anthropic, recalled telling Altman and was on to say
29:25 Pablo Torre? that basically he was unconcerned with the moral consequences, mostly about whether he could get away with this stuff allegedly.
29:32 Pablo Torre? NEOM, a city of the future. Katie, do you have any brief way of explaining what NEOM is?
29:42 Speaker 04 Was supposed to be.
29:44 Pablo Torre? Supposed to be.
29:44 Speaker 04 Okay, so when I brought it to you, it's because I had seen a commercial for it, or something.
29:48 Pablo Torre? Yes, there were commercials all the time.
29:50 Speaker 04 It was promised as this city in the desert, in Saudi Arabia, I believe.
29:56 Speaker 05 Were you over there when you saw the commercials, or where were you?
29:58 Speaker 04 Why would I have been over there?
30:00 Speaker 05 I don't know.
30:00 Speaker 04 The Comedy Festival.
30:02 Speaker 05 Maybe.
30:03 Speaker 04 No, uh, no. The, um, it was here, it was, uh, during a sporting event. Which is why I brought it to Pablo, because I was like, they advertise during sports. I do this to him a lot. I keep sending him, "He gets us." I'm like, "Figure out who runs this, what this is."
30:18 Speaker 05 I am, yeah, I want to know.
30:19 Speaker 04 But the, the, this, the NEOM was like, it's supposed to be like a, a high-tech city. One of the aspects of it was something called the Line, which was gonna be this big, long, I don't remember how many miles, uh, uh, city that had like, you know, again, the outside visual of it, it just looked like a wall, but inside it was this, obviously not real, but it was like a sprawling ecosystem with greens and a high-speed train that would run from one end to another. You would live there and go down to the train and then you'd go to your job. It was a self-sustaining city in the middle of a desert.
30:54 Pablo Torre? In fact, I just need to clarify, Katie in no way, Michael, is exaggerating because it was advertised as this.
31:03 Speaker 08 What is NEOM?
31:06 Speaker 08 This is NEOM, or here, to be more precise, in the northwest of Saudi Arabia. But NEOM is more than a place. It's a home for people who dream big. Bigger than that. That's more like it. It'll be a hub for innovation, an entirely new model for sustainable living. The vision for a new future. In fact, that's how it got its name. But what will be there? There's Oxygon, a thriving city at the crossroads of the world. Where advanced manufacturing will enable industries of the future. Trojana, a year-round mountain destination. And just remember to pack your skis when you visit. Or skiing's not your thing.
31:49 Speaker 08 There's always Sindala, one of Neom's many beautiful islands. Perfect for some R and R. And a line, a 500-meter-high, 200-meter-wide, 170-kilometer-long city in the shape of, well, a line. No roads, cars, or emissions. And everything its 9 million residents could ever need within a five-minute walk.
32:14 Speaker 04 You know, regular stuff.
32:15 Speaker 05 I mean, that's like post-apocalyptic is what it feels like. I feel like this is what this is.
32:18 Speaker 04 It was sold as an investment in a different type of energy. I think it was something like they had noticed that obviously most of their wealth came from an unsustainable type of energy. And so in the, at some point, they're gonna have to take a step towards the future to coming up with other sorts of renewable energy sources. That's how it was sold. At this point.
32:40 Pablo Torre? Yes, at this point.
32:41 Speaker 04 They've abandoned, they actually, remember they said there was gonna be a bunch of, like, world sporting events, not big ones like the Olympics or anything, but like, maybe like a beach soccer tournament or something? They had given it to that fake city that wasn't even built yet. They were like, yeah, they're gonna have the 2032 or something crazy. At this point, I think it might just be a data center?
33:03 Pablo Torre? Yeah, so according to the Financial Times, this very ambitious project, this was one of the crown jewels of the Crown Prince, Mohammed bin Salman, it, yeah, has been significantly downscaled and it is likely to be converted into a hub for data centers.
33:18 Speaker 05 Hell, yeah.
33:19 Pablo Torre? Woo! Due to tightening liquidity after a decade of massive spending and subdued oil prices, which are definitely gonna get better on account of us, again, just to quote the earlier president, yeah, the whole civilization dying tonight, never to be brought back again, possibly.
33:36 Speaker 05 So wait, was it, was it understood that the money from OpenAI would help to fund this, or there was just kind of like a...
33:42 Speaker 04 Yeah, what was it? Go over that relationship for us again?
33:44 Pablo Torre? It was that he would be on the advisory board.
33:47 Speaker 04 And what is that? What is that ever?
33:50 Pablo Torre? You are asking questions that I don't think Sam Altman himself necessarily asked as rigorously.
33:55 Speaker 04 The blip over there at OpenAI is what they call it, right? When Sam Altman was removed because the board members decided that originally they had said that somebody of like high moral standing would have to be in charge of what they're building. Because listen, if you're gonna build something ambitious, like AI is supposed to be, it's intelligence that will exceed human capabilities. It has to be in the hands of somebody who can be trusted with that sort of tech. And so I think what I remember hearing is that the board agreed that he was not that guy, that he started to show signs of being concerning, he would lie a lot, he was...
34:36 Pablo Torre? He was characterized as both this very special combination of people pleaser, but guy who was lying all the time.
34:43 Speaker 04 Right. And so it was a, which you know, they're not always mutually exclusive. And so it was like, so they removed him. And then through some miraculous power play, he makes his way back in. Not only that, removes the people from the board who had initially started the moving of him. And so then he's just, you know, back.
35:05 Pablo Torre? Because it seems like what, there was no catastrophic event that preceded him being removed?
35:08 Speaker 04 No, it was just them going...
35:10 Pablo Torre? Other than people were like, this guy seems kind of [BLEEP] up.
35:11 Speaker 04 We have always said that if it's a guy who seems kind of [BLEEP] up, we should get him out and put somebody else in. Then they took action towards doing that. And then because of the effect on like markets and business going like, well, if Sam's not in charge, we don't want to be in charge. And then he got everybody to sign that thing that said they wanted him in charge. And then he comes back in charge and immediately goes, well, I don't want to be in charge if these people who tried to oust me are here, so then they're gone.
35:34 Pablo Torre? Which I guess kind of makes sense.
35:35 Speaker 04 I guess, but it's also like, at what point do you go, yeah, well, that was their chance to take out the guy that wasn't right to hold the button? And now he's gonna hold the button as tight as humanly possible? Um, I just, I don't know. I guess I've just wished that if these evil people were gonna be in charge of all this important tech, they'd at least be cool and have good taste. And they all just seem to be damp and weird.
35:56 Speaker 05 It's not gonna happen for you, bro. It's not gonna work out that way.
35:59 Speaker 04 None of them are ever like, whoa, at least he's cool.
36:01 Speaker 05 But I don't, I just, I guess, I just don't, I don't believe that it's going to work. I don't believe in AI. I don't think, like, I think some, it will make some things incrementally more efficient and better in some ways, but most things, I think it's like souped up Google and that's really kind of it.
36:16 Speaker 04 But then if that's the case, then our economy's gonna crash.
36:19 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, that's what I think is gonna happen. I think that.
36:21 Speaker 04 So either way, we're fucked. That's my favorite part. That's what I think is cool.
36:24 Pablo Torre? I think coding has already been basically fundamentally replaced by AI in many key aspects, but the whole promise of what it is, it's, in some ways, the best advertising is the apocalypse because it's so impactful that it will create potentially the apocalypse. And what if, in fact, the reality is that, oh no, it's just underwhelming.
36:44 Speaker 05 But the problem, even with coding, I know you're trying to move on, even with coding...
36:46 Speaker 04 I sense that you wanna not talk about this anymore.
36:48 Speaker 05 Even with coding, like, someone's gonna have to be, have accountability for when the AI [bleep] up the code. You know what I mean? Which it will do. It's going to make a mistake. And so...
36:57 Speaker 04 What makes you think that somebody will have to be accountable?
37:00 Speaker 05 Well, just like, who are you gonna blame? When the, when, when it does, when the hospitals all, the power goes out at all the hospitals because we, you know, we let...
37:07 Speaker 04 Immigrants, I would guess, is who they'll blame.
37:09 Speaker 05 Yeah, but they're gonna...
37:10 Speaker 04 If I had to make an educated guess, it would be immigrants.
37:14 Speaker 05 You might be right. But it just, it feels like, at some point, there's gonna be a human that is gonna take all this [bleep] for that. And it's almost...
37:21 Speaker 04 Aho.
37:21 Speaker 05 It's gonna be a while before it's the guy at the top. It's gonna be like, some dude in the middle who's like, you're the AI, you're the overseer, and now that AI is doing coding for 7,000 projects that used to be done by 7,000 people, you're the one guy who has to oversee all 7,000 of those projects, and you can't do it. It's not possible.
37:38 Pablo Torre? As always, I wanna reiterate that our house theory, our house clubhouse leading theory, is that AI is, in fact, 60 Filipino guys.
37:46 Speaker 04 Yeah.
37:47 Speaker 05 And I, I love it. And for, and to those guys, salamat.
37:51 Pablo Torre? Yes. By the way, I was late in getting to this, but someone in the chat said, quote, "My uncle had a whizinator that he would share and had makeup to alter it."
38:00 Speaker 04 Wait, in case, in case what? Oh, because he would share it.
38:03 Pablo Torre? Yeah.
38:03 Speaker 04 Yo, what? So what?
38:05 Speaker 05 Hey Doug, can I borrow your Wisinator? That's gonna be a no.
38:09 Pablo Torre? Um.
38:10 Speaker 05 Buy your own.
38:10 Pablo Torre? We do have to get, though, to the aforementioned protagonist arguably of the shows we do together. Do we have the latest from Jordon Hudson?
38:19 Speaker 04 No, what, really?
38:21 Pablo Torre? Do we have?
38:21 Speaker 05 We have to.
38:22 Pablo Torre? Oh, no.
38:23 Speaker 04 Who would win in a footrace, Pablo or Jordaan? Well, I've never seen her in a flat shoe, I don't think.
38:30 Speaker 05 Yeah, but she's an athlete.
38:31 Pablo Torre? Well.
38:32 Speaker 05 No offense to my friend. But she's, she's, she's done like a bunch of flips and I know she could do that.
38:36 Speaker 04 Yeah, but his calves are.
38:39 Speaker 05 That's, but that's, that's genetic. It's not, it could be, that could be, there might be any muscle in there. Sometimes, sometimes the Filipino just had these secretly thick ass calves. You're like, what is that good for? And the answer is, sometimes nothing.
38:50 Speaker 04 Did you see UNC basically did it again, by the way? They hired their basketball coach and it's a pro, a coach with pro experience and not a lot of.
38:57 Pablo Torre? Michael Malone?
38:57 Speaker 05 Who's dating, you guys heard this, right? He's dating Jordon Hudson.
39:00 Speaker 04 Whoa.
39:01 Speaker 05 Crazy.
39:02 Speaker 04 It all comes back to Jordan.
39:04 Pablo Torre? She is, for the record, a national champion cheerleader.
39:09 Speaker 05 I think she, I think she would stomp your ass in a race, I'm saying it.
39:12 Pablo Torre? I mean, this was, this was last month.
39:14 Speaker 04 Gold digger got paid, hashtag paid, hashtag gold digger. She does a lot in the cop, in the captions. She does a lot with hashtags. She's writing in a way that like she's got a dedic, it almost reminds me of, God, what was that girl's name who went to those schools abroad and she, Caroline?
39:34 Pablo Torre? Callaway?
39:34 Speaker 04 Yep. This, she's got a little Caroline Callaway to her, where you're just like, who's the, who's this for?
39:40 Speaker 05 What did she, what, what, what were we, what were we, what did she win? What was that?
39:43 Speaker 04 The, the gold digger.
39:45 Speaker 05 That can't be what it's called.
39:46 Speaker 04 I have no idea, but that's, you look to the caption to go, what was the name of the event? And instead you'll just find Pablo's name and.
39:54 Pablo Torre? She won the national cheerleading championship for adults?
39:59 Speaker 04 That can't be what it's called.
40:00 Speaker 05 Hell, yeah.
40:01 Speaker 04 The NCCFA?
40:03 Speaker 05 National Cheerleading Championship for Adults. Gotta be.
40:08 Speaker 05 Ones of contestants in that.
40:10 Pablo Torre? Her cheerleading squad is named Code Black. And, uh, yeah, it's a national cheerleading championship, guys. I don't know.
40:16 Speaker 04 And congrats to her. I don't have any issue with her doing this. This is great.
40:20 Speaker 05 I would like to see that race, though. I would pay for the race.
40:22 Speaker 04 I think she would win.
40:23 Speaker 05 I do, too. No offense to you.
40:25 Speaker 04 She is, you know, I know there's a question mark and a, and a shroud of secrecy around. I do think she is younger than you. I know at least she's younger than you.
40:33 Speaker 05 Yeah, and she's gonna be, she's gonna be full body fitness. She's probably running every day.
40:36 Speaker 04 She's been working out. You walk home, which is a long walk.
40:39 Pablo Torre? I do. I do love a walk.
40:40 Speaker 05 You might be here on a walk. If we said, look, you got, who's gonna walk the furthest? I bet you would walk farther.
40:45 Speaker 04 Yeah.
40:46 Pablo Torre? Can we turn our attention to the other person that we've been looking into at North Carolina?
40:50 Speaker 05 Of course.
40:51 Pablo Torre? Which is, of course, general manager.
40:52 Speaker 04 Oh, Jesus.
40:53 Pablo Torre? Michael Lombardi.
40:54 Speaker 04 What do we got on him?
40:55 Pablo Torre? So I wanna shout out Foye Ball. This is David Cavucci.
40:58 Speaker 04 Goodfellas.
41:00 Pablo Torre? His Italian-ness has been officially called into question.
41:03 Speaker 04 Ay, ay, ay.
41:04 Pablo Torre? Because this is how he tweets about the movie Goodfellas.
41:08 Speaker 04 Goodfellas.
41:10 Speaker 05 That's crazy.
41:11 Speaker 04 You made me wanna watch Goodfellas now.
41:13 Speaker 05 It is crazy to call it.
41:14 Speaker 04 You need to watch Goodfellas. What was he, what, it, what? In what world were Peter Schrager and Kay Adams talking to each other in December of 2016? And Lombardi came swooping in. Oh, was he at Fox at the time?
41:25 Speaker 05 You gotta chime in. You need to watch Goodfellas.
41:29 Speaker 04 That's absurd. I, that guy is not on earth.
41:34 Pablo Torre? There is more.
41:35 Speaker 04 Great.
41:35 Speaker 05 Good.
41:37 Speaker 04 Love that scene. Ironic that Chris gets shot in the foot in Goodfellas and turns tables in Sopranos. You watch, Kay? Alright, dude, there was a character limit, but that wasn't it. He had room to, to speak in a understandable way.
41:54 Speaker 05 If you haven't seen The Goodfellas, I think you might enjoy My Cousin Vincent. It's also supposed to be a pretty good flick.
41:59 Pablo Torre? Uh, there is more.
42:01 Speaker 04 Ah!
42:02 Speaker 05 He can't keep saying Goodfellas.
42:03 Speaker 04 Much like in the movie Diner, Femi is going to have to pass a test before we commence. Not the Colts test, rather a Sopranos, Godfather, Goodfellas, JFK one. He can do it, right, Femi? I don't know. I don't know. This was in 22!
42:20 Speaker 05 Goodfellas? That should be illegal.
42:24 Speaker 05 By the way, this is only an opportunity for me to say on the side that I think that Joe Pesci is the greatest actor of all time.
42:29 Speaker 04 Great.
42:30 Speaker 05 Not a bit. I think he's the best.
42:31 Speaker 04 Cool.
42:32 Speaker 05 Number one.
42:34 Speaker 05 Your fave could never.
42:35 Pablo Torre? Because of which role?
42:36 Speaker 05 Okay, we got, you got all, all the movies that that guy doesn't know the name of.
42:39 Pablo Torre? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:40 Speaker 05 Then you got Home Alone.
42:41 Speaker 04 Something for the kids.
42:42 Speaker 05 Then you got My Cousin Vinny.
42:43 Speaker 04 Yeah.
42:44 Speaker 05 This guy's, look, and I know he's playing a similar character in all these movies, but are you gonna get My Cousin Vinny laughs? And you're gonna get Casino out of the same guy?
42:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
42:52 Speaker 05 Robert DeRos trying. Robert DeRos tried his whole life to get My Cousin Vinny. He can't do it. He can't do it. He's great, but he can't do it.
43:01 Pablo Torre? I feel like, uh, Michael Lombardi.
43:05 Pablo Torre? We need to devote an entire episode to that.
43:08 Speaker 04 Goodfellas?
43:09 Pablo Torre? To the fact that he's.
43:10 Speaker 04 Of finding out why he said that?
43:11 Pablo Torre? He's Italian.
43:13 Speaker 04 Wait, so did you say, didn't you find something out about his last name in your findings out?
43:17 Pablo Torre? Well, it, it has been previously reported that he appreciates or benefits from the fact that people.
43:24 Speaker 04 People think he's related?
43:26 Pablo Torre? To Vince Lombardi.
43:26 Speaker 04 But that is his real last name.
43:28 Speaker 05 His actual last name is like Michael O. Lombardowicz.
43:32 Speaker 04 Yeah, or it's like.
43:33 Pablo Torre? Yes, he's the Goodfellas of Vince Lombardi.
43:34 Speaker 05 I made him Irish and Jewish at the same time.
43:36 Speaker 04 Perfect. Didn't, like, didn't Joe Theismann change the way you say his name to, because he wanted, right?
43:43 Pablo Torre? The Heisman, so Joe Theismann, former, uh, quarterback, Heisman.
43:46 Speaker 05 You're gonna, you're gonna tell me.
43:48 Speaker 04 Yeah, he knows that.
43:49 Speaker 05 Grizzly, grizzly leg accident from the, from LT, right? Wasn't LT hurt?
43:52 Pablo Torre? Did Lawrence Taylor?
43:54 Speaker 04 I think so, but.
43:54 Pablo Torre? Shatter?
43:55 Speaker 05 Oh, look who's telling, look who's telling who what now.
43:58 Speaker 04 That feel good? Feel good about that?
44:00 Pablo Torre? North Carolina alum Lawrence Taylor.
44:02 Speaker 04 Hmm. Bringing it all back, full circle.
44:05 Speaker 05 Good, wait, the, the story of the Joe Theismann?
44:07 Speaker 04 It was how you're supposed to say it.
44:09 Speaker 05 But he changed it to Theismann because it rhymed with Heisman?
44:12 Pablo Torre? Doing a Heisman campaign.
44:14 Speaker 05 Wow, okay.
44:15 Pablo Torre? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:17 Speaker 05 Did he win the Heisman?
44:18 Pablo Torre? Uh, no.
44:19 Speaker 04 I don't think so.
44:20 Speaker 05 Would that work, do you think, if I changed my last name to like Moskew or something?
44:24 Speaker 04 Let's find out.
44:25 Speaker 05 So I could win an Oscar? Michael, Michael?
44:27 Speaker 04 Michael Cruz Moskew?
44:28 Speaker 05 Michael Cruz Moskew?
44:29 Speaker 04 Okay, yeah.
44:30 Speaker 05 I'll try it. If it worked, but if it didn't work for him, I'm not doing it. But if it did work for him?
44:33 Speaker 04 It didn't work for him.
44:34 Speaker 05 Then I would.
44:34 Speaker 04 That's why it's funny.
44:35 Speaker 05 Ladies and gentlemen, Pablo Flobel Prize, something like that?
44:38 Speaker 04 It worked, Pablo would have done it by now.
44:40 Speaker 05 Yeah, that's.
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45:15 Pablo Torre? True. Um, we're getting incoming, uh, interest in another familiar character on this program.
45:21 Speaker 05 Wonderful. It's the greatest hits.
45:24 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Cletus.
45:26 Speaker 05 No specific question, but I hope you guys dial in Cletus. What's up with, what's up with Cletus? I love Cletus.
45:30 Speaker 04 Not the robot from Fox, uh, NFL Sunday.
45:33 Pablo Torre? Yes, not former Mike Lombardi colleague.
45:35 Speaker 04 That is, yes, exactly. That is, and you should have heard those two in the, getting coffee in the break room. But that's spelled like Cleet and this, Cletus is not that.
45:43 Speaker 05 It would be forgivable if Cletus the robot thought the movie was called Goodfellas.
45:48 Speaker 04 Yeah.
45:48 Speaker 05 Uh, that would be allowed. Oh, that would make sense even.
45:51 Pablo Torre? Uh, Cletus, this Cletus, has been leaving us voicemails.
45:55 Speaker 05 Our Cletus.
45:55 Pablo Torre? Our Cletus has been leaving us voicemails all year.
45:58 Speaker 04 Yes?
46:01 Speaker 09 Hey Pablo, this is Cletus in Nevada. Man, I was just wondering something after watching the TV a lot and I know the stuff. Why do women shave their underarms and why are they, are they, is that a societal thing? Or is that men forcing them to? Or is that women just liking to do that? It seems like it's, uh, bad for them. Like, there's a lot of tours and stuff and I just wonder if that's like a societal thing and we, should we, should we not act like that's gross when men don't do that? And, I mean, I don't know. It just seems like it's kind of backwards and, of course, I'm married and all that.
46:44 Speaker 09 My wife, of course, does, but I, I just wouldn't want her feeling like she has to for me because I don't, I don't really think I'd care, but it seems kind of selfish if that's... What society's putting on women, make them do it where it seems like it could actually have adverse effects on their health and maybe we should give the women a break and just let them be, you know, so, uh, I'll, uh, hang up and listen and I hope.
47:13 Speaker 05 He's having a feminist awakening every single day. Like, he is sitting in Navarre, Florida, by like a swamp, they have swamps, what's there? Let's say swamp, like reading (bleep) in the feminist mystique, or whatever, he's reading.
47:26 Pablo Torre? He's reading bell hooks.
47:27 Speaker 04 And another thing.
47:28 Speaker 05 Yeah, here's another one.
47:29 Pablo Torre? Do you, do you remember what Cletus does?
47:31 Speaker 04 Uh, he takes the, uh, cooking oil, used cooking oil from restaurants and gathers it and sells it to people and they turn it into fuel or something?
47:38 Pablo Torre? A job that was last-
47:40 Speaker 04 Sorry, Cletus, that was pretty close.
47:42 Pablo Torre? No, but that's, I think that's right, it's, it's the job that was last in the news because of another Fox colleague of-
47:47 Speaker 04 Yeah, got, oh yeah, Mark Sanchez.
47:49 Pablo Torre? Cletus the robot, Mark Sanchez.
47:50 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
47:51 Pablo Torre? Who got in a fight with that guy who was doing that in-
47:52 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
47:53 Pablo Torre? Elsewhere.
47:54 Speaker 04 Whatever came of that?
47:55 Pablo Torre? I don't know, our investigation into that continues, I suppose.
47:57 Speaker 04 Ah, I suppose.
47:58 Pablo Torre? I do like that Cletus is married and is like, let me ask Katie, let me, let me ask Katie what's up.
48:03 Speaker 04 Oh, that was me, you think that was for me?
48:04 Pablo Torre? I think that was explicitly for you.
48:05 Speaker 04 I mean, he says hello Pablo.
48:06 Pablo Torre? No, but I think he knows that you're our in-house-
48:10 Speaker 05 Woman.
48:11 Speaker 04 Girl, Jesus.
48:12 Speaker 05 You're the in-house woman.
48:13 Speaker 04 Jesus, let me, allow me to speak for all of us.
48:15 Pablo Torre? You're the April O'Neil of this program.
48:16 Speaker 04 Actually, just let me check and make sure I'm even on the, yeah, they're mostly shaved. I, um, I think it's, uh, I think it's societal, yeah, it's like, uh, it was seen as like a beauty standard thing. And look, you can not, you can choose to not, but almost every time someone notices that a woman doesn't, it becomes the like, leading headline about her is that, "Oh, shave her armpits."
48:40 Speaker 05 Is it, doesn't it feel like it was, and maybe, I, I'm not sure if I know this or if I'm feeling it, but that it's like a Gillette thing, that Gillette and like, whatever, nineteen-
48:50 Speaker 04 The same way with like, uh, diamond rings and engagement, the way they like, tied it to it for a marketing-
48:55 Speaker 05 They were just like, "If you don't do this, you're disgusting."
48:56 Speaker 04 I believe it.
48:57 Speaker 05 And I was like, "We were never doing this before."
48:58 Speaker 04 I believe it. I, this is, I got less of a problem with this. It's these I want to talk about.
49:03 Speaker 05 Neat caps?
49:03 Speaker 04 No, your full leg, it's so much, it's 50% of your body.
49:07 Speaker 05 Yeah.
49:08 Speaker 04 And we're supposed to shave it all the time? It's just cra- this is like whoop whoop done, whoop whoop done.
49:15 Speaker 05 That's the sound you make when you do it, right?
49:16 Speaker 04 Yeah, this is, uh, this takes a lot of time and it's all of your skin. So if you have like sensitive skin, you're dragging ar- imagine if you're, you had to do your face, but it was your whole
49:27 Speaker 05 It would be bad.
49:28 Speaker 04 Bottom half.
49:29 Speaker 05 Although I would say as my particular genetic makeup makes it so I don't actually have that much hair. So but for, but I understand what you're getting at.
49:34 Pablo Torre? Oh, I got, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm a centaur.
49:38 Speaker 04 What's that supposed to mean?
49:39 Pablo Torre? Yeah, but down below it's
49:41 Speaker 04 I'm Italian, so I am entirely covered in hair. In fact, parts of me that seem like they're not, it's because we were early adopters to laser hair removal technology. My mom had a friend who was practicing, I was like 12 and she was like, let her zap on your face.
49:58 Pablo Torre? Katie Nolan was in the Weapon X program for laser hair removal.
50:01 Speaker 04 It hurt back then.
50:03 Speaker 05 That's not a practice situation.
50:06 Speaker 04 And they put numbing cream on it and it did not work. I got blasted, most of my spots and it's all, I'm so hairy, it has fought back and I'm, and it's coming back.
50:17 Speaker 05 Sweetie, let Linda practice with the laser on your face.
50:20 Speaker 04 It was, yeah, there's a lot of like protective technology.
50:23 Pablo Torre? Polycular healing factor.
50:25 Speaker 05 You're running around the house, hiding behind the couch and she's like trying to shoot lasers at you.
50:29 Speaker 04 That's, that was it, that was mostly it, it hurts so bad.
50:32 Pablo Torre? Um, we do have another follow-up inquiry along these lines.
50:35 Speaker 04 Please, Mark Cletus, please, I only want to talk to Cletus.
50:38 Speaker 09 Hey Pablo, this is Cletus from Navarre, Florida. I was, uh, watching the TV the other night and, uh, I was just wondering, are women more constipated than men? Cause I ain't seen one men constipation commercial, but we got all these women on the TV commercials talking about how they're constipated and here's what you should take for it. And I'm just wondering if this is our fault, you know? Like, is this a recent problem? Or is this men making women more constipated by putting pressure on them or?
51:20 Speaker 09 I don't know what's going on, but I appreciate you finding that for me. Alright.
51:28 Speaker 05 Now that's not a phenomenon I'm even aware of.
51:31 Speaker 04 Me neither, but it sounds like a woke way to ask if women are full of
51:35 Speaker 05 I have, I have seen, I think a commercial, but I don't remember if it's a man or a woman, getting into a hot tub. They're getting into a hot tub where there's a bunch of like attractive other people in the hot tub with them and they're kind of like, ooh, I can finally get in here because I'm not worried about taking a [BLEEP] because I just took a [BLEEP]. You guys know what I'm talking about?
51:54 Speaker 04 No, but I, I believe you. It's not your fault that it's weird. Have you seen the Colagard one where the two women are like hitting on the anthropomorphic box that you're supposed to put your [BLEEP] in to send off to this company? It makes no, the thing's mowing the lawn and they're basically going like, it's a box that you put your [BLEEP] in. Why are you hitting on it sexually?
52:16 Pablo Torre? This is the non-invasive prescription ad on stool DNA test.
52:19 Speaker 04 Holy cow. You're like, what is even the messaging here? Where she's like, mm, I love the way it does your yard work. The box of [BLEEP]? What are we talking about? But do women get constipated more than men was the question?
52:33 Pablo Torre? Yeah.
52:33 Speaker 04 And I, I don't.
52:34 Pablo Torre? I do like that Cletus is turning to us and not Claude or ChatGPT.
52:39 Speaker 05 Well, he's, he's just, he's looking at the world through a critical lens that maybe he's been, you know, awakened in some way. And he's like, wait, hang on a second. Why are we, what is like, um, what is it called? Pink Tex? Pink Tex?
52:50 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
52:51 Speaker 05 Where like everything, all the, all the products that are both men and women use if they're designed for women. It's like, oh, this is a little more, why is a woman's razor cost more than a men's razor? What's going on there? That's Cletus. I bet you there's one of those from Cletus.
53:02 Speaker 04 I can't wait until Cletus see, asks us why they only use blue liquid in period commercials when they, it's like.
53:09 Speaker 05 That's a fair question.
53:10 Speaker 04 Because what the [BLEEP]? I remember it was like revolutionary a while ago. Somebody like used a different, I don't even think it, they used red.
53:18 Speaker 05 They used a different color.
53:19 Speaker 04 And people were like, whoa.
53:19 Speaker 05 The scientist ran screaming from the room.
53:21 Speaker 04 Yeah. Oh, wait, it's red like that?
53:24 Speaker 05 What the hell?
53:25 Speaker 04 It's red like that. It's also got chunks in it. What were you saying?
53:27 Pablo Torre? Oh, um.
53:28 Speaker 05 Ladies and gentlemen, this segment brought to you by Chunks.
53:31 Speaker 04 Wake up, guys. Grow up. We've had to deal with it our whole lives. You think we aren't horrified the first time we see that? We're in middle school. [BLEEP] is already not going great for us. Okay? And then one day you go, I'm falling out of me.
53:46 Speaker 04 What was the other stuff you had there?
53:47 Speaker 05 Anyway, you were gonna say Pablo.
53:48 Pablo Torre? I'm falling out of me.
53:52 Speaker 04 Everything is a nightmare. Life is just constantly going
53:58 Speaker 04 about something or another thing.
54:02 Pablo Torre? Um, I-
54:02 Speaker 05 Or a third thing.
54:03 Pablo Torre? Hold on, let me just see.
54:04 Speaker 04 Important to note. Are you calling Cletus? He always just springs this on us.
54:08 Speaker 05 It'd be funny if he's not calling Cletus, he's just calling.
54:11 Speaker 04 Put it on speakerphone. It doesn't sound like it's on speakerphone to me.
54:18 Speaker 04 We can't hear that.
54:19 Speaker 05 Yeah, I don't hear it on the microphone.
54:20 Pablo Torre? You don't hear it on the microphone?
54:20 Speaker 04 No. Take the, unplug it and push it into the mic.
54:25 Speaker 10 It's Pablo Torre, what?
54:27 Speaker 05 Cletus!
54:30 Speaker 10 What up, Pablo?
54:31 Pablo Torre? Cletus, can you hear me as well as Katie Nolan as well as Michael Cruz Kane?
54:36 Speaker 05 Hi, Cletus.
54:39 Speaker 10 I can, how y'all doing?
54:41 Speaker 04 We're good, Cletus. We, we miss you.
54:45 Speaker 10 Yeah, I miss y'all too.
54:47 Speaker 04 Hell, yeah.
54:48 Speaker 10 I had a, I had a little brief stint of fame in the Panhandle.
54:52 Speaker 04 That's right. I think it's still going.
54:54 Speaker 05 You're famous to us still. We listened to a couple of your messages just now.
55:00 Speaker 10 Uh-oh.
55:01 Speaker 04 Uh-oh.
55:03 Pablo Torre? Cletus, can you paint the picture of where you are right now as you continue to be our Florida Panhandle correspondent?
55:10 Speaker 10 I'm on the Florida Panhandle taking a, taking a grease container to somebody and uh-
55:15 Speaker 04 Nice.
55:16 Speaker 10 Trying to figure out what I'm gonna cook dinner for my wife tonight.
55:19 Speaker 04 Hell, yeah. What are the options?
55:22 Speaker 10 I don't know. I mean, I'm probably gonna do like a Greek bowl, saute some chicken breasts and do some Greek rice and uh, put some avocados, some feta cheese, some olives, tomatoes, cucumber, uh, and uh, green onion and-
55:42 Speaker 10 Put some pepper chenilles on top of it, call it a meal.
55:44 Speaker 04 Yum.
55:45 Pablo Torre? Hmm.
55:45 Speaker 05 That sounds very helpful.
55:47 Speaker 04 I'd eat that, yeah.
55:47 Speaker 05 Can I ask a question? My question for you, Cletus, is what's the division of dinner preparation in your home? What percent of the time are you doing it? And what percent of the time is she doing it?
55:57 Speaker 10 Well, my wife works harder than I do, so I try to do most of the cooking. Because although she's a great cook, I just try to make it easier on her.
56:09 Pablo Torre? She's a, she's a nurse, right, Cletus? She's a nurse?
56:13 Speaker 10 Well, she's a director of nursing. Yeah, she wasn't, she's still a nurse at heart. But, uh, yeah. I, um, and I'm a chef in a former life. We used to own restaurants in Alabama. And I'm, I'm a certified chef, so she lets me do it because I enjoy it. She, she cooks and it's great, but she doesn't enjoy it, so.
56:39 Speaker 05 My wife is a nurse also, Cletus, and I know that, I know the grind. So I'm also used to getting food on the table for my wife who works much harder than me. Respect.
56:47 Speaker 10 Yeah.
56:48 Speaker 04 You're just saying what he said.
56:49 Speaker 10 Why don't nurses, why don't nurses get the whole, uh, first responder discounts that everybody else?
56:56 Speaker 04 Yeah.
56:57 Speaker 10 Saves lives good.
56:58 Speaker 04 Yeah.
56:58 Speaker 10 I wonder about that.
56:59 Speaker 04 When I was banging my pot and pan during the pandemic, that was exclusively for nurses. That's who I was thinking of when I was leaning out my window.
57:05 Speaker 10 Exactly. We just forgot about them now.
57:08 Speaker 04 Yeah, that sucks.
57:10 Speaker 10 My, my wife's a, she's a really hard, hard worker. She's very dedicated.
57:16 Pablo Torre? Well, Cletus, Cletus, we love, we love, we love that you continue to embody what it means to be the ideal spouse of a Filipino person. And.
57:27 Speaker 10 Well, actually, my wife's not Filipino.
57:29 Speaker 04 Well, she's a nurse, so technically, I think.
57:32 Speaker 10 My, my son-in-law is Filipino.
57:36 Speaker 10 And my daughter is married to him and his family's Filipino.
57:39 Speaker 04 Ah, okay.
57:40 Speaker 10 And, you know, y'all call them birthdays, it's weird.
57:43 Speaker 04 Whose birthday?
57:44 Speaker 10 Y'all call them my birthday.
57:45 Speaker 05 Whose birthday?
57:45 Speaker 10 And it's my, it's my grandson Eli, he's two today.
57:49 Speaker 04 Oh, Eli! Happy birthday, Eli!
57:52 Speaker 05 Happy birthday, Eli!
57:54 Speaker 10 Elijah Garcia, we're gonna, we're gonna teach him how to play basketball or something where he can be on the Filipino national team.
58:03 Speaker 05 Yes!
58:04 Speaker 10 You don't have to be that good.
58:06 Pablo Torre? You don't even need to, you don't even need to be Filipino, the Philippines made Andre Blatch, former Washington Wizards center.
58:13 Speaker 05 Isn't JaVale McGee on the Filipino national team?
58:15 Pablo Torre? Yeah, they, we passed legislation to make those guys members of the national team.
58:20 Speaker 10 Well, I'm just, I'm hoping Eli, like, catches the spirit of the Olympics and maybe, I don't know what we'll, what we'll train him to do, but I just wanna go to the Olympics and represent the Philippines.
58:33 Pablo Torre? I, I would love nothing more than that, Cletus. Cletus, you know, it also occurs to me that in your capacity as professional guy who deals with oil, you're also now our
58:44 Speaker 10 Yes, sir.
58:45 Pablo Torre? oil correspondent.
58:46 Speaker 04 Hmm.
58:46 Pablo Torre? How do you feel about, uh, potentially the end of the world tonight at 8:00 PM Eastern?
58:53 Speaker 10 Yeah, it's been on my mind two days now and, uh, we have a madman as the president, although I didn't vote for it, there's a lot of people down here that did. We just went to Disney World this past week to celebrate my grandson's, uh, two-year-old birthday and, and, um, I didn't see one Make America Great Again hat. Where have they gone? Well, I mean, is it, they're embarrassed, they lose their hats? I, I, on the pain handle, we're, it's pretty red down here and, um, everybody is just kinda pretending like they ain't got a part of this now. And I won't let them forget.
59:40 Speaker 10 You know, I used, I'm still a conservative person as far as money, but as far as everything else, I say live and let live and you should just love your fellow human being and um, and I just don't know what's happened to these people. They've just, I mean, you know, when you elect a madman, you gotta stick with him, go down with the ship. They're not doing it. And um, I, I have a thing, he's gonna taco out tonight, but it might cause-
1:00:07 Speaker 05 I hope he does.
1:00:08 Speaker 10 I did too. I mean, I just, I mean, all the awful stuff he says, awful. Like, well, only a crazy person is putting, he's already crazy, but this stuff is 20th amendment worthy to me. And, and I just, I would, Pablo, I swear you'd be such a good president.
1:00:31 Speaker 04 Uh, chill out, Cletus.
1:00:33 Speaker 05 We just started it.
1:00:34 Speaker 04 We can't, we can't be doing this.
1:00:35 Speaker 05 The committee to elect Pablo president. It started right now.
1:00:38 Speaker 04 I can't, I can't, I can't. I was with you the whole time. I can't let you do this.
1:00:41 Speaker 05 It's either Pablo or Stephen A. Smith. Those are your two choices.
1:00:44 Speaker 04 Oh, no!
1:00:44 Speaker 05 That's who you get.
1:00:45 Speaker 10 No, I, I just, I, Katie, I mean, you have a cabinet position.
1:00:50 Speaker 05 Yes!
1:00:51 Speaker 04 That's not a good idea either!
1:00:52 Speaker 02 Secretary of chicks?
1:00:54 Speaker 10 Why not?
1:00:55 Speaker 04 Jesus Christ.
1:00:56 Pablo Torre? Um-
1:00:57 Speaker 10 Secretary of coolness.
1:00:58 Speaker 04 Hell, yeah.
1:00:59 Speaker 05 Secretary of coolness. We create a new cabinet position.
1:01:01 Pablo Torre? Um, Cletus, uh, I should've, I should've told you that you're currently live, uh-
1:01:07 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
1:01:08 Pablo Torre? On, on, on air.
1:01:09 Speaker 04 On YouTube.
1:01:10 Pablo Torre? Uh, but I also, I, very good legally, uh, cleared that hurdle. And also, uh, thank you for providing us a note of, for, for me, uh, personal hopefulness that I didn't have when we started the show.
1:01:24 Speaker 04 That is true.
1:01:25 Pablo Torre? And, uh-
1:01:26 Speaker 04 We love you, Cletus. You're the man.
1:01:28 Speaker 05 Thank you, Cletus.
1:01:29 Pablo Torre? Happy birthday to Eli and thank you for your-
1:01:31 Speaker 04 Happy birthday, Eli.
1:01:32 Pablo Torre? Thank you for your endorsement. I do approve this message.
1:01:33 Speaker 04 Don't, that part, no, but the rest of it, yes.
1:01:35 Speaker 10 Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I'm always here for you, Pablo. I mean, always.
1:01:40 Speaker 04 Hell, yeah.
1:01:41 Speaker 10 I enjoy, I, I listen to Katie's show.
1:01:44 Speaker 04 Oh, Cletus!
1:01:45 Speaker 10 It's all good.
1:01:46 Pablo Torre? And, uh-
1:01:47 Speaker 10 Katie, like, when you first started on Levitard, I was like, oh my God, she is so funny. I get-
1:01:54 Pablo Torre? I think we'll probably wrap it up now, though.
1:01:56 Speaker 04 No, my God!
1:01:57 Pablo Torre? We got the end music? The end music?
1:01:58 Speaker 04 What the fuck?
1:01:59 Pablo Torre? End music?
1:02:00 Speaker 04 Damn!
1:02:07 Pablo Torre? This has been Pablo Torre Finds Out, a Meadowlark Media production.
1:02:13 Pablo Torre? And I'll talk to you next time.
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