Pod Insights Pablo Torre Finds Out Share & F*ck Around & Tell with Michael Cruz Kayne and Katie Nolan About this episode Did Pablo "win" his "beef" with Bill Simmons? Why are baseball broadcasts so dick-centric? How bad is it to touch the Stanley Cup? And how good can you get at an instrument in a week? Plus: Zoogle, Skyrizi, Gary Peyoteon, redding-wing eczema, Bouilliabaise Mode and a sick kitten to a hot brick.
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2:08 Pablo Torre? Right after this ad.
2:17 Speaker 02 I'm fixating on an old song that I've rediscovered. I can't stop listening to it.
2:24 Speaker 02 I mean, what is this? Gaga? Uh huh.
2:29 Pablo Torre? "Something About You" by Level 42, which I'm fading out for legal reasons.
2:33 Speaker 02 Come on!
2:34 Pablo Torre? I would just want to vibe to that.
2:36 Speaker 02 It's so good. It's such a vibe.
2:38 Speaker 03 What's it called? Level 42?
2:40 Speaker 02 That's the band? I was gonna let it get to the chorus so people could know they've heard it before, because I promise you both have.
2:45 Pablo Torre? We can skip to the chorus.
2:55 Speaker 02 That bass is filthy!
2:57 Pablo Torre? I love a bass. We love a bass on this.
2:59 Speaker 02 Filthy!
2:59 Speaker 03 Is that a Sharon Tell or is that just a snack for you?
3:02 Speaker 02 It is a snack! Is this a Sharon Tell?
3:05 Pablo Torre? It is a literal snack pack.
3:06 Speaker 03 I was told to bring it.
3:07 Pablo Torre? Don't open it!
3:08 Speaker 02 What's going on?
3:14 Pablo Torre? Okay, I'm jumping in here to say that if you watch PTFO on YouTube, you probably know that the Nintendo-adjacent-style sound effect, the "doot doot doot doo" that you just heard, visually triggers an actual role-playing game-style menu with a little animated version of me who explains stuff. Which is why internally, the PTFO staff calls these voiceovers that I do RPGs. Anyway, I say all of this because Katie Nolan's question today, "What is going on?", is a good one. Numerous Pablo Torre Finds Out observers have observed that we have always chosen the "Pablo Explains" menu option,
3:57 Pablo Torre? but I have never actually selected the second option that is shown right beneath "Pablo Explains", which is simply "F*** Around."
4:08 Pablo Torre? But after repeatedly forcing share and tell regulars Katie Nolan and Michael Cruz-Cain to be guinea pigs in what some critics have called the future of journalism, and still others have called your stupid Bill Belichick, Jordan Hudson episodes, I realized something. I realized that it was probably time to just [BLEEP] around. I've somehow explained less about what we're doing here today than I have in previous episodes in which I also explain nothing.
4:40 Speaker 02 Which is crazy.
4:41 Pablo Torre? Which is not just crazy, I have been reflecting.
4:44 Speaker 02 Okay.
4:45 Pablo Torre? And I think I owe you guys.
4:47 Speaker 02 Yeah.
4:48 Pablo Torre? An episode where we just get to chill.
4:51 Speaker 02 Yes.
4:52 Pablo Torre? With surprises in the center of the table.
4:54 Speaker 02 No.
4:55 Pablo Torre? I sent a group chat to you guys and it was just hello and Katie's response was, uh-oh. And I was like, I need to, we need to reestablish our friendship.
5:06 Speaker 02 Anytime I hear in this group text, I go, oh, Jesus Christ, what'd she do now?
5:11 Speaker 03 Yeah.
5:12 Speaker 02 But this wasn't about, it's not about her.
5:13 Pablo Torre? Well, so technically.
5:14 Speaker 02 Oh, no.
5:15 Pablo Torre? It has been now 50 days since our many, many, many, many, many public records requests were filed and not fulfilled.
5:23 Speaker 02 Oh, no.
5:24 Pablo Torre? So that is happening in a parallel track alongside this. North Carolina administrators, if you're listening to this and-
5:30 Speaker 02 Come on and raise up.
5:31 Pablo Torre? Raise up.
5:34 Speaker 02 Take your shirt off.
5:36 Speaker 03 Heels, heels up. What did they say? They must have a thing.
5:39 Pablo Torre? Oh, what's their, what's their, like their slogan?
5:40 Speaker 03 Heels up.
5:41 Speaker 02 Click your heels.
5:43 Pablo Torre? What is North Carolina Tar Heels slogan?
5:49 Speaker 03 Go, go blue.
5:50 Pablo Torre? Um, they have a song called, "I'm a Tar Heel Born." Do you want to listen to what that sounds like for a second?
5:57 Speaker 03 I do and I don't.
5:58 Speaker 02 That's not as good as Something About You.
8:33 Speaker 02 What are we doing here?
8:33 Speaker 03 So far, so good.
8:34 Speaker 02 What's the purpose today? That meat's not gonna open, is it?
8:40 Speaker 03 Honestly, I'll eat a Gusto pack. I'm not afraid to.
8:43 Pablo Torre? So much of my diet is Gusto packs.
8:48 Pablo Torre? Small batch artisanal meats.
8:50 Speaker 02 Oh, gross.
8:50 Pablo Torre? Smooth Vantina cheese, artisanal crackers.
8:52 Speaker 02 Gross, gross, gross.
8:53 Pablo Torre? Genoa, mild salami.
8:54 Speaker 02 Gross.
8:54 Pablo Torre? Snack pack, keep refrigerated.
8:55 Speaker 03 Is that the one with the chocolate? Oh, it's got a little fruit bar. It's got a fruit bar.
8:58 Speaker 02 There's no fruit bar.
8:59 Pablo Torre? No, this is, this is just-
8:59 Speaker 02 Just cheese, meat, and more meat.
9:01 Speaker 03 Oh, just crackers.
9:01 Pablo Torre? Straight protein and dairy and some artisanal crackers.
9:04 Speaker 02 No. Yuck.
9:07 Pablo Torre? This is, this is the adult Lunchable.
9:10 Speaker 03 Yes, very true. We, we have a lot of those in my home.
9:13 Speaker 02 Probably much more expensive.
9:14 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah. Lot of salt in there, baby.
9:17 Pablo Torre? Oh, yeah. I don't wanna, I don't wanna-
9:18 Speaker 02 Don't let me forget I'm putting this on the ground.
9:20 Speaker 03 Okay, I'll try. I'll try to remember that.
9:22 Pablo Torre? Disgusting place to rest your lollipop stick.
9:24 Speaker 02 There's no, uh, trash in here. There's never been a trash in here, which is crazy.
9:28 Speaker 03 Where are the receptacles?
9:29 Speaker 02 Thank you.
9:30 Pablo Torre? We're like Japan in here.
9:32 Speaker 03 Yes.
9:33 Pablo Torre? You know what I'm talking about?
9:33 Speaker 03 No.
9:35 Speaker 02 No trash cans?
9:36 Pablo Torre? No trash cans.
9:37 Speaker 03 But I believe that we are like Japan.
9:38 Speaker 02 We're like New York City during a marathon.
9:40 Pablo Torre? Mm-hmm.
9:41 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm. Just pee in our pants.
9:43 Speaker 02 Yeah. Walking your dog and then you realize like, oh, something must be going on publicly this weekend because there's no garbage can anywhere.
9:50 Speaker 03 Is the whole episode gonna be what we're doing right now? Because honestly, I'm great with it.
9:53 Speaker 02 I guess so. I didn't get high enough.
9:54 Speaker 03 I'm hyped.
9:55 Speaker 02 Yeah.
9:56 Speaker 03 I didn't get high at all.
9:57 Speaker 02 Damn, that sucks.
9:58 Speaker 03 I don't usually get high. I don't really get, I don't really get high. I tell you what, the littlest, and I'm so far gone.
10:02 Speaker 02 Great.
10:02 Speaker 03 I'm absolutely obliterated.
10:03 Speaker 02 That's economical.
10:06 Speaker 03 But I don't, I never, I, it's very hard for me to find a place where it's like, I'm glad that I did this.
10:09 Speaker 02 Just take one hit. Start there.
10:11 Speaker 03 Okay.
10:12 Speaker 02 Okay.
10:13 Speaker 03 Thank you.
10:14 Speaker 02 You're welcome.
10:16 Pablo Torre? What happens to you?
10:17 Speaker 03 What happens to me?
10:18 Speaker 02 Do you get scared?
10:19 Speaker 03 Uh, yeah, I kind of, well, I, what, I often become like so far gone, often. I hardly ever do it. But like so far gone that I'm like paralyzed. You know what I mean? The very first time that I accidentally, uh, used a marijuana product.
10:32 Speaker 02 What?
10:33 Speaker 03 I was at a party and there were brownies and never even occurred to me-
10:36 Speaker 02 Oh, no.
10:37 Speaker 03 That there would be weed in the brownies. So I ate like a few brownies.
10:40 Speaker 02 Oh, no.
10:41 Speaker 03 Cause I'm, I'm the type of guy who'll go to a party and I'll eat a lot of your brownies.
10:44 Pablo Torre? Just to be, just to be, uh, you know, uh, conscientious towards the chef.
10:48 Speaker 03 Yeah. You made all these brownies. I'm gonna let them sit here?
10:51 Speaker 02 You're the guy that walks in like the third time in the room and goes, "Oh, brownies."
10:55 Speaker 03 That's exactly right.
10:56 Speaker 02 Well, I gotta eat them, even though it's your, it's your-
10:58 Pablo Torre? You put them into a big shopping cart?
11:00 Speaker 02 Yeah.
11:01 Speaker 03 I make a big show out of it. And yeah, I'll eat, I'll eat a few. So I ate a few brownies.
11:05 Speaker 02 Oh, no.
11:06 Speaker 03 And I was sitting by the pool and I was like, I feel a little bit weird. And then people were like, you guys want to get in the pool? And I was like, yeah, I would love to get in the pool. And then my arms and legs would not move. And I was like, I guess I'm here for a while. So that's kind of, I, I all.
11:21 Speaker 02 Doesn't sound bad.
11:22 Speaker 03 I rarely get to the place where you're like, I'm just a little bit happier than I was.
11:24 Speaker 02 I don't think eating a couple brownies was taking it eat. Like, that's like, if I ate a couple brownies, I would also be comatose.
11:31 Speaker 03 I guess I mean, I'm not good at, I feel like you seem like someone who's really, uh, you're a connoisseur.
11:35 Speaker 02 Mm-mm. No, Dan is. I just, um, whatever he gets, I go, nice. And then I take a hit or two of it and then I go, I'm good for three hours.
11:44 Speaker 03 I got you. Yeah. See, I just don't know what, I don't know what I'm doing. Maybe, maybe I need like a weed sommelier to.
11:49 Speaker 02 Probably.
11:49 Speaker 03 To show me how to.
11:50 Speaker 02 Pablo could help.
11:51 Pablo Torre? I'll be your sherpa.
11:52 Speaker 02 He brought a bunch of weed to my house with athlete names on it.
11:54 Speaker 03 Athlete names?
11:55 Pablo Torre? Oh, you didn't even watch the episode, Michael. You would have been.
11:57 Speaker 03 No, I did. Gary Payotian?
12:01 Speaker 02 I mean, that's the pun it could have been. It wasn't that pun, but yeah, that's close.
12:05 Pablo Torre? So far you're one for one.
12:06 Speaker 02 It's just Gary Payton. It's just called Gary Payton. It's not.
12:09 Speaker 03 Is that a pun?
12:10 Speaker 02 No, Payotian was a pun.
12:12 Speaker 03 No, but I thought, okay, but there wasn't one?
12:14 Speaker 02 No.
12:14 Speaker 03 Good.
12:15 Pablo Torre? But what about?
12:16 Speaker 03 What?
12:17 Speaker 02 The amount of times I come here and I forget to put my engagement ring back on is too many.
12:21 Pablo Torre? Methinks the fiancee doth protest too much.
12:25 Speaker 03 Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't wear my red ring on, wear reding, and it's called a redding wing. And I don't wear it very much.
12:30 Speaker 02 Why?
12:31 Speaker 03 Because I have what is called.
12:33 Speaker 02 Cause it's easier to cheat.
12:34 Pablo Torre? In fidelity.
12:35 Speaker 03 Eczema.
12:36 Speaker 02 Oh.
12:36 Speaker 03 And so I get a cool little ring of eczema right around my, right around my hand. And it's not fun to have that.
12:42 Speaker 02 Sure, sure, sure.
12:43 Speaker 03 As long as I, if I don't sweat at all, it's fine. But if I do sweat, then it starts to accumulate under the ring.
12:49 Speaker 02 Yum.
12:49 Speaker 03 And this is also, this is like, how do you track metrics for this podcast? This is the kind of thing that makes me.
12:54 Pablo Torre? It's going great.
12:55 Speaker 02 Yeah, numbers are going through the roof.
12:56 Speaker 03 Yeah. So I give myself a shot.
12:58 Pablo Torre? Let's describe your finger eczema more.
13:00 Speaker 02 No, no.
13:02 Pablo Torre? I wanna get to what Michael brought us.
13:05 Speaker 03 Okay.
13:06 Speaker 02 Is it food?
13:07 Speaker 03 No, and I was told to bring it.
13:10 Speaker 02 What? You didn't tell me to bring anything.
13:12 Speaker 03 Yeah, I assumed you'd bring like a-
13:14 Speaker 02 Thanks.
13:14 Speaker 03 Honestly, I assumed you'd be bringing like some kind of obscure instrument also.
13:19 Speaker 02 I brought the funk.
13:19 Speaker 03 I thought you'd bring like a woodblock or something.
13:21 Speaker 02 As you can see, I brought the funk.
13:22 Speaker 03 You did, that's true. But people don't even know that.
13:24 Pablo Torre? I think we have a legal clearance for the funk.
13:27 Speaker 02 Okay, sorry. It might be free. It's fair use. That's an old song.
13:31 Pablo Torre? Well, fair use, Soundalike, for the funk.
13:34 Speaker 02 Nah, it's not gonna be the same.
13:35 Speaker 03 We can do, the three of us can do an a cappella.
13:37 Speaker 02 On whatever this is.
13:39 Speaker 03 Well, yeah, but it's not a cappella if we use this. Can you use, is the problem, you can't even license, like you can't sing the song, right?
13:45 Speaker 02 No.
13:45 Speaker 03 Yeah, you can't do anything.
13:46 Pablo Torre? Well-
13:47 Speaker 02 Is Level 42 litigious? I don't even remember them as a band.
13:50 Speaker 03 Well, they're gonna be litigious now that you said that. That was nice.
13:54 Speaker 02 They're coming for her.
13:55 Pablo Torre? Is Level 42 really gonna sue us?
13:58 Speaker 02 Right.
13:59 Speaker 03 I dare you. Level 42-
14:01 Speaker 02 It's like when Bill Simmons said, "What are you gonna do, fire me?" And then they very much did.
14:04 Speaker 03 Bill Simmons said that, and then next week, Level 42 sued him.
14:07 Pablo Torre? I am sorry, by the way, to Katie Nolan for getting you sucked into a larger internet happening in which you were asked questions like, "Which side are you on?"
14:18 Speaker 02 I've sucked it up and handled it, so I need Simmons to do the same. It's weird. Pablo's investigating it. He's doing a fantastic job. So I'm Team Pablo. And I assume you are as well. Oh, yeah, but I picked you. It wasn't like it. There was no hesitation.
14:32 Pablo Torre? I noticed.
14:33 Speaker 02 It was, he didn't even listen to the episode. I was doing it back and I was like, "Bro, come on."
14:38 Speaker 03 I don't know.
14:39 Speaker 02 Pablo got into a media fight with another, with another member of the, his name's Bill Simmons. I believe we just talked about him. He, Bill Simmons took issue with Pablo's reporting. And then, we don't, you can cut it out, but Pablo then went to LA for his, did you win the?
14:52 Pablo Torre? Oh, no.
14:54 Speaker 02 He went for the what's it called's?
14:56 Pablo Torre? The...
14:57 Speaker 02 Peabody's.
14:58 Pablo Torre? Peabody's. What a Boston way to pronounce that.
15:00 Speaker 02 Yeah, that is, sorry, the Peaboddy's. Sorry. It's Peabody, Massachusetts. And he was out there in LA, so he did Simmons' podcast, like refuting Simmons, saying that it was like, whatever, reporting or whatever. And basically during the episode, he was like, have you listened to any of the episodes that the aggregated clips are coming from that you're referring to? And Simmons was like, well, what I'd like to talk about instead.
15:21 Pablo Torre? It was a scalable move by Bill.
15:22 Speaker 02 No, it was not. It was immediately, you could see right through it. It was like, so no then, Bill.
15:28 Speaker 03 I didn't realize that Peabody's, the Peaboddy's had nominations. I thought you just won it.
15:32 Pablo Torre? Oh, no, there are nominations now.
15:34 Speaker 03 Oh.
15:35 Pablo Torre? I know because I...
15:37 Speaker 02 You have one.
15:37 Pablo Torre? Didn't win it.
15:38 Speaker 03 I do, I have one.
15:39 Speaker 02 We noticed in your house.
15:40 Pablo Torre? Brother.
15:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
15:41 Speaker 02 Shannon was like, you know, he's a somebody.
15:43 Pablo Torre? And I did the thing that Connor McDavid did that everyone got mad at him for. I touched it.
15:54 Speaker 02 Oh.
15:55 Speaker 03 Oh, that might have jinxed it.
15:56 Speaker 02 That he touched the cup?
15:57 Pablo Torre? You should neither touch nor hoist the conference trophies when those series have been won because the players, according to this footnoted Wikipedia page, feel that the Stanley Cup is a true championship trophy and only it should be hoisted.
16:11 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's, we're kind of pretentious hockey fans that way. But it's, it is what it is. It's a known thing.
16:18 Pablo Torre? I'm just trying to guess further and further away from the fact that Michael has the thing that I...
16:22 Speaker 02 Eggs on his hands?
16:23 Pablo Torre? Yeah.
16:24 Speaker 02 Yeah.
16:25 Speaker 03 By the way, I don't have it right now.
16:26 Speaker 02 Don't give it to the cup.
16:27 Speaker 03 Right now, I don't have it.
16:28 Speaker 02 Right.
16:28 Pablo Torre? Where is it?
16:29 Speaker 03 The eggs on?
16:30 Speaker 02 Where are you keeping it?
16:31 Speaker 03 I don't have the eggs on anywhere.
16:32 Pablo Torre? Who's on, who's on first?
16:33 Speaker 03 No, you guys, I take a shot. I take a shot every two weeks. I'm a pharma boy.
16:37 Speaker 02 Oh, you do?
16:37 Speaker 03 Oh.
16:38 Speaker 02 Which one? Wait, let me guess, let me guess. It's, um, because it's, nothing is everything.
16:45 Speaker 04 Now is the time to ask your dermatologist about Sky Rizzi.
16:49 Speaker 02 Which is, um...
16:50 Pablo Torre? Oh.
16:51 Speaker 02 Yeah, what is that one?
16:53 Pablo Torre? Sky Rizzi?
16:54 Speaker 03 No, it's not that. It's not that. It's not that.
16:56 Speaker 02 Damn, that is Sky Rizzi, though. Have you seen the one where they have the...
16:59 Pablo Torre? Wait, we, we did an episode about this. It's Dupixent.
17:02 Speaker 03 Yes, I must have, I talk about it all the time. I love Dupixent.
17:06 Speaker 02 With Dupixent.
17:07 Speaker 03 That's right.
17:08 Pablo Torre? How do you, how do you know all of the jingles?
17:10 Speaker 02 Because I watch TV all day. I watch TV all day. There's a commercial where they have baseball fans in a stadium chanting, "Farsiga."
17:28 Speaker 02 Forciga.
17:30 Pablo Torre? Now, there is one from a commercial that I noticed. Was I with you? I must not have been with you guys. But there is a pharmaceutical drug that is supposed to address a bent penis.
17:39 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah, for, um, that's called, um, Peyronie's? The disease is called Peyronie's?
17:45 Pablo Torre? I cannot stress enough how this was unprepared by everybody.
17:48 Speaker 02 I believe it's called Peyronie's disease.
17:51 Speaker 03 I mean, the level, the level of quickness with you. Oh, yeah.
17:54 Speaker 02 Sure, yeah, Peyronie's. There's a good one and a bad one.
17:58 Speaker 03 Spandura? Yeah, I got that. I don't know.
18:00 Pablo Torre? Absolutely called Peyronie's.
18:03 Speaker 02 Thank you.
18:03 Pablo Torre? That is the disease, uh, when a fibrous scar tissue inside the penis causes curved, painful erections.
18:09 Speaker 03 That's gotta be such a bummer, a bummer for Doug Peyroni. You know what I mean?
18:13 Speaker 02 Yeah.
18:14 Speaker 03 For the doctor, he'd be like, actually, you're gonna be famous on this. And he's like, wait, why?
18:18 Speaker 02 What? Please don't.
18:18 Speaker 03 Don't, don't do that.
18:19 Speaker 02 Name it after anything else.
18:21 Speaker 03 Can't you call it just bent penis disease? No, Doug, we're naming this after you.
18:24 Speaker 02 No, no, please.
18:25 Pablo Torre? They need to understand how fibrous this scar tissue is.
18:28 Speaker 02 Oh, my goodness, fibrous.
18:30 Pablo Torre? I'm looking for the, for the, for the, for the pharmaceutical, um...
18:34 Speaker 02 What the, what the?
18:36 Speaker 03 What, what, what, Peyronie's disease? It's not like just a splint?
18:39 Pablo Torre? Xyoflex? I think it's Xyoflex.
18:41 Speaker 02 Damn.
18:42 Pablo Torre? Otherwise known as Collagenase Clostridium.
18:45 Speaker 02 Adalimeb.
18:46 Pablo Torre? Histolysitem. Lysticum.
18:51 Speaker 02 What are we doing? What is this?
18:53 Speaker 03 What are the rails?
18:54 Speaker 02 What are the rails? Where, what's the?
18:56 Speaker 03 Are we a train?
18:57 Pablo Torre? Are you saying that you're trying to straighten the rails?
18:59 Speaker 03 No, absolutely not.
19:00 Pablo Torre? Are you saying that there's a fibrous tissue perhaps in the, in the rails?
19:03 Speaker 02 If it hurts, you should have it medicated. But I will say, if it doesn't hurt and it curves a certain way, you could just leave it.
19:09 Speaker 03 Okay.
19:09 Speaker 02 And that's just advice.
19:10 Pablo Torre? But just think about how...
19:13 Speaker 02 And that's just advice from me here.
19:14 Pablo Torre? That's a freebie.
19:15 Speaker 02 And that's just free advice. As long as it doesn't hurt, you could just leave it.
19:20 Speaker 03 Doug Peyroni, why don't you call in, buddy?
19:23 Speaker 02 If it's going side to side, probably take the...
19:27 Speaker 03 Take the Zycoflex.
19:28 Speaker 02 Right, but if it's, "Oh, I think you can leave it."
19:31 Pablo Torre? My main reaction was like, "Wow, this must be a common affliction" in order for this commercial to be aired during the sporting event.
19:38 Speaker 02 They do a lot of dick-centered stuff during sports.
19:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, this is like, this is when we're gonna get them.
19:42 Speaker 02 Remember, baseball playoffs used to always be, um, what's the one that's not Viagra? The one that starts with maybe a C?
19:49 Speaker 03 Cialis.
19:49 Speaker 02 Cialis.
19:50 Pablo Torre? Cialis.
19:50 Speaker 02 That's right.
19:51 Pablo Torre? Remember when there was, uh...
19:52 Speaker 02 Nobody wanted to make that a big deal that you knew that right away.
19:55 Speaker 03 Took me a second, because I almost said Sky Alice, but I knew that wasn't right.
19:57 Speaker 02 Sky Rizzy.
19:58 Pablo Torre? That would be embarrassing.
19:59 Speaker 03 Sky Rizzy, that's when you put them, when you take them together.
20:01 Pablo Torre? That's when you...
20:02 Speaker 02 It's Sky Alice.
20:03 Pablo Torre? That's when you...
20:03 Speaker 02 Nothing is, everything is hard as [BLEEP].
20:06 Speaker 03 Hey, you wanna get [BLEEP]?
20:08 Pablo Torre? Sky Rizzy.
20:10 Speaker 02 Sky Rizzy.
20:10 Pablo Torre? What a flirtatious bird.
20:13 Speaker 03 Yeah.
20:13 Speaker 02 A Rizzy, yeah, you're right. We got it. Yeah, we got it.
20:16 Pablo Torre? Sky creature.
20:16 Speaker 02 What is a podcast bird?
20:18 Pablo Torre? So, Mr. Peyroni.
20:20 Speaker 02 Yeah.
20:21 Pablo Torre? Uh, François-Jacques Dela Peyroni.
20:24 Speaker 02 No.
20:25 Speaker 03 Okay.
20:26 Pablo Torre? A French surgeon.
20:28 Speaker 02 Oh, it was the surgeon.
20:29 Speaker 03 Oh, wow.
20:30 Pablo Torre? And this is, I think, a real, a real problem for the other Peyronis in this, in this lineage. Because, yeah, he's the guy who discovered, um, as it is described here, uh, induration of the corpora cavernosa of the penis.
20:45 Speaker 02 Cavernosa?
20:47 Pablo Torre? Oh, wow. You guys wanna see a diagram?
20:49 Speaker 02 Probably not.
20:49 Pablo Torre? Yeah.
20:50 Speaker 02 But, yeah.
20:51 Speaker 03 I do. I do wanna see the diagram. I do.
20:53 Speaker 02 Wait, where are we? Where are we? What are we looking at?
20:55 Pablo Torre? We're looking at the constituent cavernous cylinders of the penis.
20:58 Speaker 02 I'm sorry? What's the, where are we looking at? Is that the mushroom at the top? What's going on?
21:05 Pablo Torre? The glands.
21:06 Speaker 02 I don't know what that is.
21:07 Pablo Torre? This is like an old illustration.
21:08 Speaker 02 I don't know what that is, and I don't like...
21:09 Pablo Torre? Look, my dad is a urologist. This is totally exactly what he would want me doing with this episode. Wikipeding medical illustrations.
21:17 Speaker 02 Red Sox traded Rafi Devers.
21:18 Pablo Torre? How is, how is, how is that?
21:20 Speaker 02 [BLEEP] miserable.
21:21 Pablo Torre? That must have been a real kick to the dorsal veins.
21:22 Speaker 02 [BLEEP].
21:25 Speaker 02 It's miserable.
21:27 Pablo Torre? Let me close out some windows and open that one up.
21:29 Speaker 03 Close out some of my penis tabs.
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21:43 Pablo Torre? Sounds like there should be a pharmaceutical product for what you're dealing with.
21:45 Speaker 02 I know. I think there's a lot of them.
21:47 Speaker 03 I think they have, yeah, there are a lot, sure, a lot of those.
21:48 Speaker 02 I think I'm gonna take them all at once.
21:51 Pablo Torre? Well, let's not do that. What if?
21:53 Speaker 03 That feels a little severe.
21:55 Pablo Torre? What if instead we unzipped something else?
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23:50 Pablo Torre? Michael, I believe, has been spending his days when he's not around us doing something that we should enjoy
23:58 Speaker 02 Okay.
23:58 Pablo Torre? now that he's here with us.
24:00 Speaker 03 Okay, so, a friend of mine, a comedian, had an Omni Chord in her office.
24:06 Speaker 02 I'm supposed to know what that is?
24:07 Speaker 03 So, and I started playing it, and I thought, oh, this is so fun, and then I bought one.
24:11 Speaker 02 How much? Price point?
24:13 Speaker 03 It's like $750.
24:14 Speaker 02 Okay.
24:15 Speaker 03 It's kind of a
24:15 Pablo Torre? I love this.
24:16 Speaker 02 Below a thousand?
24:17 Speaker 03 And I got it like a week ago.
24:19 Speaker 02 Okay.
24:19 Speaker 03 And I also, I think since the last time I saw you guys, I broke my elbow. Did you know that?
24:24 Pablo Torre? What?
24:24 Speaker 02 No, you seem like you're fine.
24:25 Pablo Torre? I don't even know which one.
24:26 Speaker 03 My left, my left elbow, so I've got some limited motion.
24:29 Pablo Torre? How did you break it?
24:31 Speaker 03 I was playing B-ball with the youths.
24:33 Pablo Torre? Oh, man.
24:33 Speaker 03 And I'll tell you guys, I was fucking saucing these kids up.
24:36 Speaker 02 I bet.
24:36 Pablo Torre? So I watched, I've, I've been grinding some Michael Cruz Kayne game tape.
24:41 Speaker 02 Yeah.
24:41 Pablo Torre? What I love about Michael Cruz Kayne playing basketball is that he wears sweatpants.
24:45 Speaker 02 Okay.
24:46 Speaker 03 I do sometimes. I do sometimes. I'm not afraid to do that. Well, it's just whatever's clean.
24:50 Speaker 02 Okay.
24:50 Speaker 03 And doesn't have to be that clean. Whatever's around, I'm gonna wear.
24:53 Speaker 02 Basketball pants. Common.
24:54 Pablo Torre? But he's got, he's got a J.
24:55 Speaker 03 I was absolutely, wait, what are you even talking about? Where have you seen me play basketball?
24:59 Pablo Torre? The same place
25:01 Speaker 03 On Instagram?
25:01 Pablo Torre? That I saw you play an Omni Chord.
25:04 Speaker 03 I was so
25:05 Pablo Torre? Through your window.
25:06 Speaker 03 Let me tell you this, let me tell you this story because it's worth it for this podcast.
25:09 Speaker 02 Okay.
25:10 Speaker 03 I was saucing these kids up, absolutely ruining some 20-year-olds.
25:13 Pablo Torre? You're sky-rizing them.
25:14 Speaker 03 I'm feeling so good, so you know what I do? Something I haven't done in 10 years, I sprint from one end of the court to the other end of court, and I'm calling for the ball.
25:21 Speaker 02 Okay.
25:21 Speaker 03 I'm saying, I'm telling the guy
25:23 Speaker 02 Hit me, I'm going.
25:23 Speaker 03 I'm like, send it.
25:24 Speaker 02 I'm driving to the hoop.
25:25 Speaker 03 I see the, I'm tracking the ball with my eyes. I go to catch it. I'm fully extended.
25:29 Speaker 02 Oh, no.
25:29 Speaker 03 A much bigger, stronger, faster, younger man is doing the same thing I'm doing.
25:33 Speaker 02 Not a good idea.
25:35 Speaker 03 I leap off the ground. Must have been one, maybe .5 inches off the ground. Get absolutely mauled by this younger man. My legs go over my head.
25:44 Speaker 02 Oh.
25:45 Speaker 03 And I catch myself with my arm extended. Fracturing the radial head of my elbow.
25:50 Speaker 02 Hmm.
25:50 Speaker 03 I'm kind of rolling around the ground for a little while. Everyone's like, are you okay? And you don't really know how injured you are right away.
25:55 Speaker 02 Hmm.
25:56 Speaker 03 I was like, I think I'm fine. So I play one more play.
25:59 Speaker 02 No.
25:59 Speaker 03 We're down by two, Katie.
26:01 Speaker 02 Damn.
26:01 Speaker 03 Your boy gets-
26:02 Speaker 02 This is a real Klay Thompson situation.
26:03 Speaker 03 Your boy gets the ball on the wing.
26:05 Speaker 02 Yeah.
26:05 Speaker 03 Whoop, hot. Wet, game's over, and I go, you guys.
26:09 Speaker 02 I think my-
26:09 Speaker 03 I think I gotta go.
26:10 Speaker 02 I think my radial head is-
26:11 Speaker 03 And then I left. I, I, I think honestly, I think, I think I've changed those kids' lives.
26:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
26:17 Speaker 03 Anyway, I've been spending a lot of time not playing basketball, trying to learn how to play the Omni Court.
26:21 Speaker 02 Great.
26:22 Pablo Torre? My god.
26:23 Speaker 03 So that's, that's it, it's right here.
26:24 Pablo Torre? So you said, you said, okay, computer.
26:27 Speaker 02 Nice.
26:27 Speaker 03 Nice.
26:28 Speaker 02 Nice.
26:29 Speaker 03 I don't, I don't-
26:30 Speaker 02 You called the karma police.
26:32 Speaker 03 That's good. These are the, that's radial head.
26:34 Speaker 02 Radial head.
26:34 Speaker 03 Oh, now I see.
26:35 Speaker 02 The radial head of your elbow. I got you there.
26:37 Speaker 03 Took me a second.
26:38 Speaker 02 It's okay.
26:38 Speaker 03 I knew that it was radio head.
26:39 Speaker 02 Of course.
26:39 Speaker 03 But I didn't get radial head.
26:41 Speaker 02 Right.
26:41 Speaker 03 But you guys are both-
26:42 Speaker 02 Because they sound so different. So I could see why it took so long.
26:46 Pablo Torre? You thought we just left you high and dry.
26:47 Speaker 02 Whoa.
26:48 Speaker 03 I don't even know, I don't know what that is. That I know.
26:50 Speaker 02 Yeah, of course.
26:52 Speaker 03 Phew, man, well.
26:53 Speaker 02 Anywho.
26:53 Speaker 03 I'm feeling like a, a real creep, and that's, that's too much.
26:56 Speaker 02 Nice.
26:56 Speaker 03 Is it too easy?
26:57 Speaker 02 No, that's good stuff.
26:59 Speaker 03 Those are all the ones that I know.
26:59 Speaker 02 That's the best stuff.
27:02 Speaker 02 TV talk show host on mute, talk show on mute?
27:06 Pablo Torre? Are you stroking out?
27:08 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
27:09 Speaker 03 Oh, and of course, talk show on mute.
27:11 Speaker 02 That's a radial head, we're doing radial head songs.
27:14 Speaker 03 Is it a radio song?
27:14 Speaker 02 I think so, but I can't remember the order of the words.
27:17 Speaker 03 Alexa, tell me if talk show on mute is a song.
27:20 Pablo Torre? Talk show on mute is incubus.
27:22 Speaker 02 Oh, fuck. Wait, then what's the one I'm thinking of? TV-
27:25 Pablo Torre? On the radio.
27:26 Speaker 02 No, that's a band.
27:27 Speaker 03 Video Killed the Radio Star.
27:31 Speaker 02 Sorry, can you do this?
27:32 Pablo Torre? No.
27:33 Speaker 03 What do we do? I don't know.
27:34 Pablo Torre? Hold on, we gotta, we gotta describe for an audio audience, it's a visual thing.
27:37 Speaker 03 Okay.
27:37 Pablo Torre? So, uh, Katie, can you describe actually what this is?
27:42 Speaker 03 She's Googling radiohead songs.
27:44 Speaker 02 Talk show host, talk show host, talk show host. That was the song I was trying to think of.
27:48 Speaker 03 You said it like you were trying, you said it like you were trying to make Jay Leno appear.
27:51 Speaker 02 Thing. I don't think that's who shows up. I don't think that's the one.
27:54 Pablo Torre? Candyman rules.
27:55 Speaker 02 Um, Omnicord by Suzuki.
27:58 Speaker 03 Yeah.
27:59 Speaker 02 It's a motorcycle.
28:00 Pablo Torre? By the way, I didn't know this, but the motorcycle company also makes all that other stuff.
28:03 Speaker 02 Yeah.
28:04 Speaker 03 Yes, it's truly, truly wild.
28:05 Pablo Torre? What a company.
28:06 Speaker 03 Yamaha, I think is also the same. Doesn't Yamaha make motorcycles and pianos?
28:09 Pablo Torre? Yes.
28:10 Speaker 02 And like water skis, water jet skis?
28:13 Speaker 03 Water jet, ski, ski waters?
28:14 Speaker 02 Maybe.
28:15 Speaker 03 Well, I just think like the...
28:16 Speaker 02 It's shaped like a bean. It's a little bean-like.
28:20 Speaker 03 Yeah.
28:21 Speaker 02 It's almost like the outline of a whistle. Um, one side, on the right side, the smaller, the tapered end, we have what appears to be a speaker.
28:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's right.
28:30 Speaker 02 I don't know what this ribbed part is.
28:32 Speaker 03 That's called a strum plate.
28:33 Speaker 02 Okay, there's a strum plate. And then we have a couple, well, that's the, that's the strum plate.
28:38 Speaker 03 No, these are the controls for the strum plate.
28:40 Speaker 02 Can I tell you? I'd say strumplet is what I would have said. Strumplet.
28:45 Pablo Torre? There are like a zillion buttons.
28:46 Speaker 02 Rhythm, chord, keyboard, strumplet, voice pattern, and then we have major, minor, the seventh, and all the different chords across the top.
28:57 Speaker 03 Sure do.
28:57 Speaker 02 Okay, so this is a push button. This is like a keyboard, but different.
29:02 Speaker 03 It's like a keyboard. I mean, honestly, you know, now, now you know as much about it as I do, pretty much.
29:07 Pablo Torre? So, so, so this also has an aesthetic of like, what year do you think this was made?
29:12 Speaker 02 Seventy-two.
29:13 Speaker 03 I, I think it definitely has the look of that, and I think it is modeled after some, some version of itself
29:19 Speaker 02 Yeah.
29:19 Speaker 03 that was released around that time, but I think this is a relatively new instrument.
29:23 Speaker 02 All the money you paid for it, it better be at least.
29:25 Pablo Torre? So, so you bought this on the internet?
29:28 Speaker 03 I used the internet to buy it. I said, "Omnicord, buy," and I went to shopping, and then I bought it. And here it is.
29:34 Pablo Torre? Wow.
29:35 Speaker 02 Okay. And this is the... OM 108 model.
29:39 Speaker 03 OM 108. Yeah, so my daughter and my wife went to El Paso to see Coldplay with my brother and his girlfriend.
29:49 Speaker 02 Okay.
29:49 Pablo Torre? And you were not invited.
29:52 Speaker 03 Neither there, nor was I invited.
29:54 Speaker 02 Okay.
29:55 Speaker 03 So I was at home and I taught myself to play the beginning of one Coldplay song on here.
30:01 Speaker 02 Oh, I think I watched you doing this on the internet and I couldn't watch it. So I changed, I think I scrolled past.
30:06 Speaker 03 Couldn't watch it because it's like so cringe.
30:08 Speaker 02 Yeah, no, no, no, it's because it was so good and I was like, not ready for this. I think I had just
30:14 Pablo Torre? That's what happened.
30:14 Speaker 02 Had a little bit of drugs and was like, I don't think he needs to look in my eyes and sing. I don't think I need to have him look me in the eye and sing personally.
30:22 Speaker 03 So, and then I guess Pablo saw this video, which I think, having, having looked at, I think maybe a hundred people have seen.
30:28 Speaker 02 Nice.
30:28 Speaker 03 It's been shadow banned by Instagram rightfully.
30:31 Speaker 02 People can't see this kind of stuff, too hot for TV.
30:34 Pablo Torre? I made immediate, direct eye contact with it.
30:37 Speaker 02 Yes, sick.
30:38 Pablo Torre? But I
30:39 Speaker 02 And then you want him to do it live?
30:40 Speaker 03 And then for some reason you had me bring it here.
30:42 Speaker 02 And you did.
30:43 Speaker 03 But what I, what I wasn't sure about is like
30:46 Pablo Torre? Just in my defense, okay?
30:47 Speaker 02 Yeah.
30:48 Pablo Torre? You're saying if, I don't know, some other trio friends you hung out with, one of them bought a musical instrument and displayed a proficiency with it, you wouldn't have follow ups?
30:59 Speaker 03 No, I sure would. I would. I would. I don't know.
31:01 Pablo Torre? If Katie bought a theremin, I'd be like
31:04 Speaker 02 How do you know I didn't?
31:05 Pablo Torre? Bring that in.
31:06 Speaker 03 That's what I thought would happen. What I thought would make sense to me is you were like, Michael, you bring your omni chord, Katie's gonna bring her theremin. I've got, you know, a, a, a glass kazoo.
31:17 Pablo Torre? A pan flute.
31:18 Speaker 03 A pan flute and I will play at like, uh, Zom Fear, the master of the pan flute. And together we'll play together.
31:24 Speaker 02 How are you even gonna Google, Google?
31:26 Speaker 03 Look that up on Google.
31:30 Speaker 03 We just replayed Katie dismissively saying, "Zoogle."
31:34 Speaker 02 How are you gonna zoogle that?
31:36 Speaker 05 How are you even gonna zoogle? Because zoogle.
31:41 Speaker 03 Zoogle it!
31:42 Speaker 02 Zamfear? How are you spelling it?
31:44 Speaker 03 Zamfear.
31:44 Pablo Torre? George Zamfear.
31:46 Speaker 02 Oh, it's exactly how you would have spelled it.
31:47 Pablo Torre? My god.
31:48 Speaker 02 Wow, master of the pan flute. Hello darkness, my old friend.
31:53 Pablo Torre? Zamfear, man. Jesus. Romanian, um, and alive, 84 years young.
31:59 Speaker 02 Capital of Romania?
32:00 Pablo Torre? And he's known as...
32:01 Speaker 03 Bucharest.
32:03 Speaker 02 Yeah.
32:03 Pablo Torre? He's from Gajesti.
32:05 Speaker 02 How is it?
32:06 Pablo Torre? But, um...
32:08 Speaker 03 Sorry.
32:08 Speaker 02 Play your [bleep] thing. Let's go.
32:10 Pablo Torre? The master of the pan flute is Zamfear, the master of the omni chord, well...
32:15 Speaker 03 It's not. I'm not even good at it.
32:17 Speaker 02 We're about to hear...
32:17 Speaker 03 I've had it for a week.
32:18 Speaker 02 La la la la la la la.
32:20 Speaker 03 I've had it for a week. I'm better at the piano than I am at this, and I suck [bleep] at the piano.
32:26 Speaker 02 Yeah.
32:26 Speaker 03 Woo, am I bad on the piano.
32:28 Pablo Torre? Did you ever take piano lessons?
32:29 Speaker 02 No, but I had a boyfriend who was super into Billy Joel.
32:33 Speaker 03 Sure.
32:33 Speaker 02 Who once taught me a Billy Joel song.
32:37 Pablo Torre? What song?
32:38 Speaker 02 It might have been.
32:38 Speaker 03 Good Night Saigon.
32:39 Speaker 02 No. It, I think it was, uh, it was a doo-lee doo doo, doo-lee doo doo doo doo doo doo.
32:45 Speaker 03 I think that is Scenes from Italian Restaurant. Yes, like the...
32:49 Speaker 02 Into the, yeah. So I used to be able to do that. I could not do that now.
32:52 Speaker 03 That feels like a relatively complicated first thing.
32:54 Speaker 02 It was incredibly complicated, but I...
32:55 Speaker 03 This guy sounds like he rules so far.
32:57 Pablo Torre? And that boyfriend, Billy Joel.
32:59 Speaker 02 Yeah, yes. Uh, he was a big Billy Joel fan, and his name was Billy Joel.
33:05 Speaker 03 No relation.
33:05 Speaker 02 None. A dev- a try as he might, he's really, uh, he's really QAnon now, that X of mine. I recently saw him reposting Newsmax, and I was like, "Jesus, I got out."
33:17 Speaker 03 What's his name? We can, uh, we can zoogle it.
33:20 Pablo Torre? Look him up on Google. My internet search history is-
33:25 Speaker 02 It's whacked out.
33:26 Pablo Torre? Is-
33:27 Speaker 02 It's real crazy.
33:28 Pablo Torre? I'm on a terror alert list of some kind now.
33:31 Speaker 02 So, no, I never took any piano lessons. I played clarinet.
33:34 Pablo Torre? Really?
33:34 Speaker 02 In middle school.
33:36 Pablo Torre? Um, what was your, what was your go-to song?
33:38 Speaker 02 Oh, I don't know. Whatever we were playing that week. But I was second clarinet. I was like-
33:41 Speaker 03 That's pretty good.
33:42 Speaker 02 Yeah, I was decent.
33:44 Speaker 03 How many clarinets were there?
33:45 Speaker 02 I don't know. Five.
33:46 Speaker 03 Two.
33:46 Speaker 02 Four. Maybe two. I got to sit in the second clarinet seat. I had solos.
33:50 Pablo Torre? Did you, you didn't think of going pro with it?
33:52 Speaker 02 No. I don't even, I couldn't even tell you why I chose clarinet. I don't remember at all. I just, I loved it.
33:58 Speaker 03 It's a beautiful instrument.
33:59 Speaker 02 It's like a girly oboe.
34:01 Speaker 03 Yeah.
34:01 Pablo Torre? A she oboe.
34:02 Speaker 02 Yeah.
34:03 Pablo Torre? Um, I took piano lessons.
34:05 Speaker 02 Nice.
34:06 Pablo Torre? I can play one song.
34:08 Speaker 02 Chopsticks?
34:09 Pablo Torre? No, I can play, well, yes, uh, two songs. Uh, Chopsticks and Fur Elise.
34:16 Speaker 02 Nice.
34:16 Pablo Torre? By an artist you may have heard of before.
34:19 Speaker 03 Sting.
34:22 Speaker 02 Not The Police. It's actually The Police.
34:24 Pablo Torre? Yeah, I can-
34:25 Speaker 03 Fur Elise is who? It's Mozart?
34:26 Pablo Torre? It's, uh, I think it's Beethoven.
34:27 Speaker 02 I think Beethoven.
34:28 Pablo Torre? Beethoven?
34:29 Speaker 02 Was it Ibiza? We're going to Ibiza? Crazy.
34:33 Speaker 03 The Beethoven?
34:34 Speaker 02 Crazy. I had a Yamaha, a little Yamaha, a little white Yamaha keyboard. I wanted to play piano. Um, and I remember once I saw, when I saw, uh, Home Alone.
34:44 Pablo Torre? Mmm.
34:45 Speaker 02 Somewhere in my memory. Remember that song?
34:47 Speaker 03 Nope.
34:50 Pablo Torre? Oh, yes.
34:52 Speaker 02 I went upstairs and taught myself that on my little, but it wasn't knowing piano. It wasn't like making it sound good. It was going-
34:59 Speaker 03 But even that- But that's pretty sophisticated to be able to hear it and be like, I could play that.
35:05 Speaker 02 I don't think it is.
35:06 Speaker 03 A lot of people can't do that. A lot of people can't hear a song and go, I can match it to this.
35:11 Pablo Torre? Is that perfect pitch?
35:12 Speaker 03 Yeah, are we finding out right now that you're a musical savant?
35:15 Pablo Torre? Are you Beethoven?
35:18 Speaker 02 Yes, so that's my, that's the extent of my music.
35:21 Pablo Torre? Sheevey wonder.
35:22 Speaker 02 And then I tried to play guitar when I was in college and my hands are too small.
35:29 Pablo Torre? What were you trying to play, Billy Joel?
35:31 Speaker 02 Uh, no, John Mayer. That was when I was in my John Mayer phase.
35:33 Pablo Torre? Uh huh.
35:34 Speaker 02 And so my, the song I could play, again, to start way too difficult than like easy chords. Um, there's a John Mayer song called "Comfortable", and the beginning of it is like this very beautiful, complicated, and I could play that. I couldn't now, but I could then, so.
35:52 Speaker 03 I feel like we're learning you're secretly really good at instruments.
35:54 Pablo Torre? Yeah.
35:54 Speaker 02 I don't think that I am.
35:56 Pablo Torre? She can accurately describe.
35:57 Speaker 02 I think that I start them and then I stop them.
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37:44 Speaker 02 Now, tell me how this works. I don't understand it.
37:47 Speaker 03 Okay, well, I don't understand it either, so we're gonna find out together.
37:49 Pablo Torre? Let's do this thing where we point your microphone, Katie, at it.
37:54 Speaker 02 Okay.
37:55 Pablo Torre? And we'll point this microphone at us.
37:57 Speaker 03 People who actually know how to use this instrument are going to be sad about this.
38:02 Pablo Torre? Oh, there it is.
38:02 Speaker 03 Okay, and then, well, I mean, I'm just gonna play it. So, like, cool, it does like...
38:07 Pablo Torre? I feel like we're your backup band.
38:09 Speaker 03 It's Jerry's line.
38:18 Pablo Torre? I love this instrument already.
38:20 Speaker 03 Check it out.
38:24 Speaker 02 What?
38:40 Speaker 03 I mean, it's just fun, and the thing is that... A dog could play it.
38:53 Speaker 03 Nothing.
38:53 Speaker 02 Changed nothing.
38:55 Pablo Torre? This is like if Chris Martin was in Zelda.
39:02 Speaker 02 How do I make it funk?
39:07 Speaker 03 That was basically the chords of "Fix You." Thank you so much.
39:10 Speaker 02 How do I make it funk?
39:11 Speaker 03 That comes, that happens.
39:13 Pablo Torre? He's twisting knobs. Ooh, yeah, the dance remix?
39:18 Speaker 03 And then, if you want other rhythms in the background. This is the same rhythm, it didn't change.
39:26 Speaker 03 That's rock, too. This is just an ad for the Omnicord.
39:32 Speaker 03 But you need the chords to be playing, so I think-
39:34 Speaker 02 Booyah bass? Oh, bossa nova.
39:36 Speaker 03 Booyah bass. Activate booyah bass mode. And that, my friends, is everything I know about the Omni Chord. Now you know everything I know. There are other things you can do on it. See this button that says keyboard here?
39:48 Pablo Torre? Yeah.
39:48 Speaker 03 What does that do?
39:49 Speaker 02 I don't know. I thought you'd say.
39:50 Speaker 03 Great, great. That's a great question to ask. I haven't had long enough to know.
39:54 Speaker 02 They're yelling at me that I need to take my mic back.
39:55 Speaker 03 Okay, you have it.
39:57 Speaker 02 That was cool. I don't feel like I know it any better. This is, I like this part the most.
40:01 Pablo Torre? Yeah, can we do that more?
40:02 Speaker 02 And what's the little one for?
40:04 Speaker 03 Oh, the little one. Little watch, well, the little one, uh, okay, wait.
40:09 Speaker 03 Little one. It's like whatever's happening, the little one goes, "Stop."
40:14 Pablo Torre? Oh.
40:14 Speaker 02 Wow.
40:15 Speaker 03 Little makes it all stop.
40:16 Speaker 02 Okay.
40:17 Speaker 03 And you know that this instrument was designed by someone who had a child, because then at some point, they had to put a button on it to be like, "It makes it, it makes it just stop."
40:27 Speaker 02 Brilliant.
40:28 Pablo Torre? What are your, oh, so have you unveiled this to your kids?
40:32 Speaker 02 Well, they all saw the Instagram.
40:33 Speaker 03 I would say that my children approached it with apprehension, but have taken kind of, have taken an interest in it, because it is a thing where like, you go to a song that you like, and you see the chords, and you're like, "And now I can play every song."
40:45 Speaker 02 And now I just push the button. You don't have to figure out how to make your fingers do that. You just go, "Boop."
40:49 Speaker 03 It's a really great intro to playing music.
40:51 Speaker 02 Yeah.
40:52 Pablo Torre? There's a whole subreddit, r/omnicord.
40:55 Speaker 02 Cool.
40:56 Speaker 03 Okay, here we go.
40:56 Speaker 02 Did they post you in it?
40:57 Speaker 03 I hope not.
40:59 Speaker 02 They go, "Check out this guy."
41:00 Speaker 03 Because it's gonna be people-
41:01 Speaker 02 Omnicording.
41:02 Speaker 03 It's gonna be people in cool bands.
41:04 Speaker 02 Do cool bands use these?
41:05 Speaker 03 I don't know, maybe.
41:06 Speaker 02 Who uses these?
41:07 Speaker 03 I think the, um, Gorillaz is Gorillaz, that's a band, right?
41:10 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah, of course it's a band. You don't have to do that.
41:12 Speaker 03 I think they have a song, I don't, I couldn't name a song that Gorillaz does.
41:15 Speaker 02 Yes, you could.
41:15 Speaker 03 I could?
41:16 Speaker 02 Yeah. Feel Good Inc.
41:17 Pablo Torre? Clint Eastwood?
41:18 Speaker 03 How's that go?
41:19 Speaker 02 Doon, doon, doon, doon, doon, doon, doon. Feel good. Do, do, do, do, do.
41:23 Speaker 03 I don't think I know. Oh, maybe I did. When you went down, I knew it.
41:26 Speaker 02 Thank you.
41:28 Speaker 03 But I think they have a song that they made on the Omni Chord.
41:30 Speaker 02 Cut that out, by the way. Show me somebody wailing out on the thing.
41:35 Pablo Torre? Gorillaz, Clint Eastwood is an Omni Chord preset.
41:37 Speaker 02 Oh, Clint Eastwood. I ain't happy. I'm feeling good, I got sunshine.
41:43 Speaker 03 Oh, I know that song.
41:44 Speaker 02 That's them.
41:46 Speaker 03 Oh yeah, you can make, you can make, you can make that do that.
41:49 Pablo Torre? You have it?
41:50 Speaker 03 I don't, I don't know what chords they are.
41:52 Pablo Torre? Okay, well, I'll show you the screenshot.
41:53 Speaker 02 Oh my god, this is crazy. That looks different than yours.
41:56 Speaker 03 Yeah, this is like an old one.
41:57 Pablo Torre? He's got, he's got four lit up buttons.
41:59 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's, that's probably the OG OmniChord.
42:03 Pablo Torre? It's...
42:03 Speaker 03 But if you put it on auto mode, it will go through chord progressions on its own.
42:07 Speaker 02 And so this is the podcast?
42:11 Speaker 03 Just you wait, until we reveal our...
42:14 Speaker 02 Jordan Hudson's here!
42:15 Speaker 03 Mystery guest!
42:18 Speaker 02 She's here!
42:32 Pablo Torre? Man, I, okay, so I'm gonna buy an OmniChord.
42:34 Speaker 02 Oh my god, really? Are we all gonna buy them and then we'll have an OmniChord and stuff?
42:37 Pablo Torre? Yeah, guys, we're starting a band!
42:39 Speaker 02 A three OmniChord band? Where nobody plays anything different, we all play the same instrument? It's crazy!
42:46 Speaker 03 Press the button together?
42:50 Pablo Torre? Oh man, this rules. Okay. I would like to have Michael, though, perform the song using his voice.
42:59 Speaker 03 Wait, why?
42:59 Speaker 02 You're gonna make him sing for us?
43:01 Speaker 03 Mid-yawn.
43:03 Speaker 02 Wait, really? You're gonna make him do the thing live? I couldn't even stomach on my, on my phone?
43:07 Speaker 03 Yes!
43:08 Speaker 02 I have to look at him while he sings? Can I turn my back? It's no offense. I just...
43:12 Pablo Torre? Like the voice?
43:13 Speaker 02 Really, yes. And I'll spin around if I like it.
43:15 Pablo Torre? Yeah, we can do the voice style.
43:17 Speaker 02 I really don't like, um, looking at people directly while they sing. It makes me so uncomfortable. I'm sorry about it.
43:23 Speaker 03 Don't you need to, don't you need to, can I even sing the song on here?
43:26 Speaker 02 Yeah, that's a really good point. I'm turning my chair just in case, but that's, he's making a really good point.
43:31 Pablo Torre? No, no, no, we are going to, uh...
43:33 Speaker 03 I don't wanna be sued by Chris Martin for singing this song and also be singing it badly.
43:38 Pablo Torre? Well, what if we're journalistically analyzing it, such that we are gonna fair use... We're gonna fair use your rendition of this song, so...
43:49 Speaker 02 Is it fix you?
43:52 Speaker 02 I think I know somebody who was one of the producers on that album. So maybe we could call him.
43:57 Speaker 03 Maybe they'll hire me?
44:00 Speaker 02 We got a new OmniChord!
44:01 Pablo Torre? Does that make them more or less likely to litigate?
44:03 Speaker 03 Hey, you know that sound you've been looking for? Well, this is not it!
44:12 Pablo Torre? I would like for you to play it and then we can figure out if this is a thing we can air or not. But.
44:17 Speaker 03 Why?
44:18 Pablo Torre? Because, because, because.
44:19 Speaker 02 Good question.
44:20 Pablo Torre? Because as Katie Nolan has turned her chair around.
44:23 Speaker 02 This is the Voice.
44:25 Pablo Torre? I need to journalistically establish that we are going to discuss this. Uh, its contents, its lyrical value, its musical execution.
44:33 Speaker 02 Yeah.
44:33 Pablo Torre? Through the lens, of course, of how I intend this, which is as a dedication to Bill Balachek and Jordan Hudson.
44:42 Speaker 02 When you try your best, but you don't succeed.
44:46 Speaker 03 Oh, you got, you sing it, you sing it. I don't even know, honest to God, I don't know all the words.
44:50 Speaker 02 Look them up.
44:53 Speaker 02 But don't look at me, you know?
44:56 Pablo Torre? Do you want me to?
44:57 Speaker 02 When you get what you want, but not what you need.
44:59 Pablo Torre? Hold the lyrics on my computer in front of you like a.
45:01 Speaker 03 I can't believe it's happening.
45:01 Pablo Torre? A physical karaoke machine?
45:03 Speaker 03 People.
45:03 Pablo Torre? My Filipino destiny?
45:04 Speaker 02 This sucks.
45:05 Speaker 03 People listen to this podcast. This is gonna be.
45:08 Pablo Torre? More than ever, actually.
45:09 Speaker 02 Oh, my God. This is a big moment for you.
45:11 Speaker 03 This, this for you. This is your, this is your way of going. We got too many people listening to this.
45:16 Pablo Torre? Yeah, we were like, what if you jet skied over the shark?
45:20 Speaker 02 Let's cull the herd. Let's, um, let's have singing happen. Too many people here. Let's clear the room out. Michael?
45:29 Speaker 03 This is true. It is, it really is that. It's like, it's the me bringing my guitar to a party of this.
45:35 Speaker 02 Yeah.
45:35 Pablo Torre? Except in this case, the host of the party will not let you leave until he gets his dose.
45:41 Speaker 02 And girls are turning their backs. It's actually doing the opposite. I feel like the rats that are being driven out of the city.
45:52 Pablo Torre? Listen.
45:54 Speaker 03 Do you really want me to do this?
45:55 Speaker 02 I think it has to happen now at this point.
45:57 Pablo Torre? Do you want me to open the snack pack? Cause that's the backup plan.
46:00 Speaker 02 I can give you backup vocals.
46:02 Pablo Torre? We gotta snack up, backup. That's all I got.
46:06 Pablo Torre? So again.
46:07 Speaker 03 This has, this has a lot of like, um, long-term humiliation potential.
46:11 Speaker 02 Yes, it does.
46:12 Pablo Torre? But this is not, it's not about you, it's about.
46:14 Speaker 02 The music.
46:15 Pablo Torre? Bill and Jordan.
46:16 Speaker 02 Now that I'm not understanding.
46:18 Pablo Torre? For whom I think.
46:19 Speaker 02 The connection.
46:20 Pablo Torre? Because I believe, because journalistically speaking, I believe that this is a song that we can discuss in the context of journalism that allows us to use it for fair use.
46:28 Speaker 02 Okay.
46:29 Pablo Torre? And this.
46:30 Speaker 02 I still don't think that's true.
46:31 Pablo Torre? The contents of this, I think, are, I would say, this is, um, Jordan.
46:37 Speaker 02 But he tried his best and he did succeed.
46:38 Pablo Torre? Hmm.
46:40 Speaker 03 Or.
46:40 Pablo Torre? Or, well, maybe we should let the song decide.
46:42 Speaker 02 You're right, you're so right. Are we doing it or not? Cause I'm gonna throw up.
46:46 Speaker 03 Is this really?
46:48 Pablo Torre? Katie's gonna look that way, I'm gonna look directly at Michael.
46:53 Speaker 03 I'm, uh, I am vibrating with anxiety.
46:57 Speaker 02 Sure.
46:58 Speaker 03 Just thinking about all the ways that people will be able to make fun of me forever for doing. I mean, I already posted a video of myself doing this on Instagram.
47:03 Speaker 02 Which was crazy.
47:04 Speaker 03 Which was a kind of a cringe thing to do from the outset.
47:08 Speaker 02 No, no.
47:08 Pablo Torre? That wasn't cringe.
47:09 Speaker 02 It was bold and brave. Just not for me, you know? It just wasn't for me.
47:14 Speaker 03 I, this is gonna be the last time we see each other.
47:16 Speaker 02 Probably.
47:17 Speaker 03 This is it.
47:17 Speaker 02 And I've had so much fun.
47:18 Speaker 03 This is it.
47:19 Pablo Torre? We've had a good run.
47:20 Speaker 03 This is it for us.
47:21 Speaker 02 We really did, we really did. Five, six, seven, eight. Oh my god!
47:27 Speaker 03 I don't, why are there more microphones?
47:33 Speaker 03 Okay, let's just, we're gonna do this?
47:35 Speaker 02 Yeah, let's just do it really fast.
47:37 Speaker 03 Oy, do it at the pace that the artist intended.
47:40 Speaker 02 What the hell is this show?
47:42 Speaker 03 It's also not, it's not a good key for me, I should probably learn how to play it at a different key, it's too high.
47:48 Speaker 02 Also, I haven't warmed up my voice, I haven't had any tea today.
47:53 Speaker 03 When you, when you, mm, mm. Okay, let's just start over. When you, mm, mm, when you try, okay, mm. Fuck me, alright.
48:06 Speaker 03 When you try your best and you don't succeed.
48:12 Speaker 03 When you get what you want, but not what you need.
48:17 Speaker 02 Oh, that was a nice little run. I'm not turning around yet.
48:19 Speaker 03 When you feel so tired, but you can't sleep. Yeah! Stuck in a river.
48:29 Speaker 02 Beautiful!
48:30 Speaker 03 He can sing!
48:40 Speaker 03 This has been Pablo Torre Finds Out, a Meadowlark Media production. And I'll talk to you next time.
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