Share & Party & Tell with Mina Kimes, Katie Nolan and Patricia Mahomes

Is TikTok the one social-media platform that makes you feel good, or is it an algorithmic wasteland of culturally insignificant content? Are we partying hard enough? And was the pre-Taylor Swift version of Travis Kelce actually hot? Plus: second-person IG love letters to your child, a boombox-holding panda/dog... and the tragic end of Party City. Further content: Americans Need to Party More (Ellen Cushing) https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2025/01/throw-more-parties-loneliness/681203/ Subscribe to "Casuals with Katie Nolan" https://www.youtube.com/katienolan Subscribe to "The Mina Kimes Show featuring Lenny" https://www.youtube.com/@minakimes Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:00Pablo Torre?

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• 0:44Pablo Torre?

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• 1:28Pablo Torre?

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• 2:11Pablo Torre?

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• 2:56Pablo Torre?

  Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre. Today's episode is brought to you by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. And today, we're gonna find out what this sound is.

• 3:07Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. Oh, my God, a nightmare. Oh, my God, a nightmare.

• 3:12Pablo Torre?

  Right after this ad.

• 3:15Speaker 02

  You're listening to DraftKings Network.

• 3:30Pablo Torre?

  Nina, we should do what we always do when we're waiting for Katie to show up. We should do what we always do when she's running late, which is let's talk about our kids. Let's get that out of the way.

• 3:42Pablo Torre?

  How's Nino? How's Nino doing? What are his measurables?

• 3:47Speaker 03

  Huge still. I keep waiting for him to get smaller, and it's not happening. In fact, our latest weigh-in, he actually went up to 93rd percentile.

• 3:57Pablo Torre?

  What are you feeding him? What's he into food-wise these days?

• 4:01Speaker 03

  He's into everything, which is great. But he eats really what we eat. But I am not trying to be cocky about it because I have heard too many horror stories of, and you can weigh in here, obviously. Uh, ki- babies who are like, parents who are like, oh, our child loves like, you know, Sichuan food and like escargot and then all of a sudden, they turn two and they only want chicken fingers. So I am not overconfident. I am, I'm enjoying this period where we can take him to restaurants while he lasts, while it lasts, pardon me, but I have no compunctions about it going on forever.

• 4:41Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, like Violet loves grilled cheese. Like, that's a 99% success rate. Um, but also sometimes she just won't want to eat it.

• 4:48Speaker 03

  There's one thing I have noticed with our kid. He just likes food when it's better. Like, he vastly prefers restaurant food. We take him to a restaurant, he eats everything. And then when we're home and Nick like makes him something in the moment, like grills some salmon, he will eat it. When, when we are in a hurry and we'll like reheat stuff, like frozen meatballs, he'll like, be like, mm, mm, nah, nah. Which is funny because like that, I guess that means he's like an adult, right?

• 5:21Pablo Torre?

  Well, it's the opposite of like the typical child psychology thing of like, they like playing with the cardboard box more than they like what's in it. Like Nino has fancy tastes. Nino is ordering, uh, like from the bottom of the menu up. He's looking at the prices.

• 5:35Speaker 03

  If I want to be clear here, I do not believe my child has a uniquely sophisticated palate. I think, um, yeah, like, have you ever, like, so how do we feel about while we're on this topic? When people do like IG posts about their child, but like long, like, like, dear Cassandra, you're for today.

• 5:56Pablo Torre?

  I can't, I can't handle it.

• 5:57Speaker 03

  You love early Miles Davis.

• 6:02Speaker 03

  And grilled cheese, but only with Gruyere. And I feel like, why are you trying to make your child sound like sophisticated, right? Just, you know?

• 6:09Pablo Torre?

  Honestly, any Instagram post that's in like the second person, I'm out.

• 6:14Speaker 03

  It's a thing. It's a thing, right? You'll do it.

• 6:16Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, it's like we're a civil war general writing to, uh, I just, I, I'm, I may be, full disclosure, I may be related to some people who do this and I can't.

• 6:25Speaker 03

  I definitely have people in my life. I'm nervous about putting this out there into the universe.

• 6:29Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, it's, everyone's like compiling like a beautifully like intentionally crafted and tattered scrapbook.

• 6:38Pablo Torre?

  Oh, hello.

• 6:39Speaker 03

  My main objection is just the, like, the positioning of your, it's like making your dating profile. And that sounds weird for your child, where you're trying to make them sound more interesting than they really are. Like, if they were honest, it would be like, "Dear Nino, like, you love [BLEEP] on everything. You are passionate about loud noises, right? Like, you're not like..."

• 7:04Pablo Torre?

  Yes, "Dear Violet..."

• 7:05Speaker 03

  You like bright neon colors.

• 7:07Pablo Torre?

  "Dear Violet, you never wipe your hands after you eat. And you like drying those same hands on our leather sofa, which your father admits was a terrible investment in retrospect, given your personal disrespect for it."

• 7:24Speaker 02

  Hey, how's everybody doing? I'm dressed like Parappa the Rappa today.

• 7:28Pablo Torre?

  I was gonna say, you do look like a boombox-holding panda. Is that what Parappa was?

• 7:33Speaker 02

  Sometimes I feel, something like that. Sometimes I just feel like this is right, and then you leave the house and you're like, "It was wrong." But here we are.

• 7:39Speaker 03

  You look like you make YouTube videos for children right now.

• 7:41Speaker 02

  And I pretty much, don't we all?

• 7:44Pablo Torre?

  Um, Parappa was a dog, uh, I'm informed.

• 7:47Speaker 02

  But with black ears and, it was white and black coloring.

• 7:49Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, had like a, had like a, a winter beanie.

• 7:51Speaker 02

  Which is what completed the outfit. I did take it off before I got on camera, though.

• 7:55Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were talking about our kids.

• 7:57Speaker 03

  Children don't watch any of this. Yeah, but we're done now, we promise.

• 8:00Speaker 02

  Do you watch Miss Rachel? Is that what the, is that what we were chatting about? Everybody loves Miss Rachel.

• 8:04Pablo Torre?

  Miss Rachel? I'm not familiar with Miss Rachel.

• 8:07Speaker 03

  Pablo, what?

• 8:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, what are you talking about?

• 8:10Pablo Torre?

  Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, the, uh, this is the cinematic, the Sesame Street cinematic universe?

• 8:15Speaker 03

  Wait, Katie, there's a guy in Miss Rachel's crew who looks exactly like Pablo. Show her the guy.

• 8:20Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 8:21Pablo Torre?

  Hold on, hold on.

• 8:22Speaker 03

  Show her the guy, this Filipino guy.

• 8:24Pablo Torre?

  Okay, so whenever Mina says, "This guy looks like you," I start off offended, and then begrudgingly admit that she's right.

• 8:31Speaker 03

  Right.

• 8:31Pablo Torre?

  Um, so I'm gonna Google "Miss Rachel Filipino guy."

• 8:35Speaker 03

  It's gonna come up immediately.

• 8:36Speaker 02

  Let me see.

• 8:39Speaker 02

  Show me to me, Rachel.

• 8:40Pablo Torre?

  If I grew like a-

• 8:41Speaker 02

  I mean, hot Pablo.

• 8:43Pablo Torre?

  We gotta stop doing that.

• 8:44Speaker 02

  That's hot Pablo.

• 8:44Pablo Torre?

  We gotta stop inventing hotter me's. We gotta stop labeling-

• 8:47Speaker 02

  I'll tell people to stop making them.

• 8:49Pablo Torre?

  The Gary Stryskis of the world. The only person I've banned from this program for being-

• 8:53Speaker 02

  Pablo.

• 8:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:55Speaker 02

  Pablo.

• 8:56Pablo Torre?

  I regret this episode already.

• 8:58Speaker 02

  No, you don't.

• 9:00Pablo Torre?

  I have missed this.

• 9:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:02Pablo Torre?

  We haven't done this since the pandemic.

• 9:04Speaker 02

  The three of us?

• 9:06Pablo Torre?

  I think so. I mean, certainly on this show. I think we've certainly like seen each other in life.

• 9:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, of course.

• 9:12Pablo Torre?

  In which, again, we talk about our kids and then you show up late and we pivot to what we're doing.

• 9:16Speaker 02

  Because I like to miss that part. It's on purpose. It's by design. Get that [BLEEP] out of the way.

• 9:21Pablo Torre?

  Should we start with a very visual game? Or do you want to get into some of the stories that I think we're all legitimately into?

• 9:29Speaker 02

  It's your show, babe.

• 9:32Speaker 02

  I just did mine. Wearing the same outfit.

• 9:35Pablo Torre?

  That's right. Hello, Katie Nolan, host of Casuals. A new podcast-

• 9:38Speaker 02

  That's right, thank you so much.

• 9:38Pablo Torre?

  For all of us to like and subscribe.

• 9:40Speaker 02

  Not on YouTube yet. Everybody's very mad about-

• 9:42Pablo Torre?

  I've not been invited. I've merely just been waiting.

• 9:46Speaker 02

  Mina's booked.

• 9:47Speaker 03

  Awkward. Awkward because I'm booked.

• 9:49Speaker 02

  Mina's booked.

• 9:49Pablo Torre?

  I am unbooked and unbusy.

• 9:52Speaker 02

  Oh, shoot. I'll make sure that we fix that.

• 9:54Pablo Torre?

  Well, that's now very sad.

• 10:12Pablo Torre?

  Katie, what did you bring us?

• 10:13Speaker 02

  I brought an article from The Atlantic because I'm fancy. I'm a fancy lady who reads The Atlantic. It was about how we're not partying enough. Basically, you know, a conversation we've been having a lot is about how we people don't have friends or we're not seeing each other ever since the pandemic or all these other various cultural factors are affecting how often we're seeing and interacting with our social circles. And this piggybacks off of that and says that America is in a party deficit. They cite the fact that Party City is closing. Place where you get all of your.

• 10:50Pablo Torre?

  Which is a, which is a massive story.

• 10:53Speaker 02

  Evidence.

• 10:53Pablo Torre?

  Oh, no, it's a massive story. It's a massive story. In fact, can I just explain how, how massive this story is? Because I was looking for the, the news coverage of Party City's demise. And we did find this.

• 11:07Speaker 04

  It appears the party is over for Party City.

• 11:10Speaker 05

  The party is over for one business that specializes in just that, parties. The party's over for Party City.

• 11:16Speaker 06

  The party's over for a popular supply store. And we have breaking news. The party is over for retailer Party City. The company told corporate employees on a call today, the business would be winding down operations immediately after nearly 40 years. And today would be their last day of work.

• 11:33Pablo Torre?

  The largest supplier of Mylar balloons, disposable plates, other things that we need.

• 11:39Speaker 02

  Streamers.

• 11:41Pablo Torre?

  Done.

• 11:41Speaker 02

  Done.

• 11:42Pablo Torre?

  After 40 years.

• 11:43Speaker 02

  The party, you could say, is over.

• 11:46Speaker 03

  OK, so I think this article is interesting. I will say the Party City as closing as.

• 11:51Speaker 02

  I know.

• 11:52Speaker 03

  Party. It's like it. Who has ever thrown an adult party and gone to Party City? It's honestly purely the provance of children's events and.

• 12:02Speaker 02

  Goodie bags.

• 12:03Speaker 03

  Mommy costumes.

• 12:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like goodie bags. It's where you go to get all the little stuff to put in a bag that nobody's gonna want.

• 12:08Pablo Torre?

  How dare, how dare both of you?

• 12:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:10Speaker 03

  We did, though.

• 12:11Pablo Torre?

  I don't know where you get balloons anymore.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  Only 4.1% of Americans attended or hosted a social event on an average weekend or holiday in 2023. This is a 35% decrease since 20, since 2004.

• 12:26Pablo Torre?

  I mean, look, there are a lot of, there are a lot of articles now where it's like, did you know that only 1.7% of Americans have smiled this year? And it's like, fuck, people stop smiling. But this is an article that resonates because.

• 12:42Pablo Torre?

  The whole notion of people throwing parties for each other has like objectively declined. It's happening less and less and we are, Mina, you are headed to the party capital of the sports world very soon.

• 12:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, Super Bowl week is a big, big party week. For me, I am definitely bringing down that average because I don't go to many parties anymore. I don't think, you guys can speak to your own experiences, outside of children's parties, which are beginning to happen, which is a whole separate thing. Children's parties, though, I gotta say, and Pablo, you can speak to this more, they're really adult parties because I get that. You've seen in L.A. as such. Everybody now has to go to every party, okay? That's different. So when we were kids, it was like, ooh, like a big, like, who's invited?

• 13:31Pablo Torre?

  You gotta invite all the kids.

• 13:32Speaker 03

  Now, everybody's gotta go to every party.

• 13:34Speaker 02

  Everybody gets a trophy, yeah.

• 13:35Speaker 03

  Which means every weekend, you just see the same parents and you sit around drinking beers at like 3:00 P.M. Watching your children just like rip each other apart. And I gotta say, I love it. My husband and I were talking about this, we're like, this is the dream. We're just sitting around making small talk with like a set designer from Pasadena, having some, you know, hard seltzers, eating their home state tacos. I love it. But the Super Bowl thing is a big deal for me because I don't go to like late night drinking type parties, except for like three times a year, the Super Bowl, the Combine, and the Draft, which are unfortunately in succession. So it's like a very intense, it's like the closest thing in my life to like those Alabama sorority rush weeks,

• 14:20Speaker 03

  where by the end, my liver is like, bleh, because I'm so unused to partying that hard.

• 14:26Pablo Torre?

  My philosophy on the children's birthday party, first of, first of all, either you gotta make it under an hour, or like an hour or less, or it needs to be equipped for parents to just hang out and talk. And I am so appreciative for these like, uh, what do you call them? Like these like bouncy floored like, oh, you can have the kids just like run around like tornadoes and and then we're done. Yeah. And then, and then we're done. But the thing about like the party as an institution is that it seems like even the young people are wondering. There was again, the anecdotal evidence here, six months ago on Reddit, someone asked one of the quote saddest questions anyone ever seen on the social platform,

• 15:09Pablo Torre?

  which was quote, "Did anybody else think there would be more parties?" Question mark, end quote. And the way we grew up and the movies we see, yeah, I, I feel like that's, that's, it, it feels like that is not happening in the way that the TV shows had promised us.

• 15:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, like I feel like in my ideal world, it's, um, in a lot of ways, it isn't like this, but it's like Mad Men, you know, those, that party he throws where they've got that like, remember in that, uh, era, the like sunken in living rooms that have like the little step down? And everybody just has like a cocktail, yeah, and it's just like sitting and chat, that's my dream. Is if socializing meant everybody just came to my house and we just sat around and like watched and talked and mingled. But I also just feel like, and maybe this informs what's happening, or maybe this is just, uh, my mental illness. But I feel like inviting somebody over, especially in New York City, is a cop out by me. I feel like it's me being like, "Want to come to my house?" It's like, no, of course they don't. They're in New York City.

• 16:10Speaker 02

  They want to go out to a bar or a restaurant or a, and I'm like, well, just come over to my house.

• 16:15Speaker 03

  A hun- at a bar?

• 16:16Speaker 02

  And like sit around and watch like sports and control the volume ourselves and like order some food and hang out. But that feels like an, um, I don't know, that feels like a cheap, it's like, get up, get dressed, leave Katie, get out of the house. But I would love if people, we, I'd throw a party every week if you guys would come over. I would come over. I love house parties.

• 16:39Pablo Torre?

  So, but, okay, so the house party, I should say, because I grew up in New York.

• 16:43Speaker 02

  Mm, you've never really had.

• 16:44Pablo Torre?

  Not a fucking thing.

• 16:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:45Pablo Torre?

  Like, not a real thing. So much about New York apartments that they're too small to have people over.

• 16:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:50Pablo Torre?

  And so my view of, like, the house party really was just like, when I got to college, I got a sense of like, oh, it's what, this is what that's like. But I never actually experienced or hosted anything, or attended anything like that. Never, never. No one's parents were back in the driveway and we had to rush to.

• 17:07Speaker 02

  Oh, that specifically has happened to me, yeah.

• 17:09Pablo Torre?

  There were no driveways.

• 17:10Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 17:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, we, I grew up in a major house party, high school culture. Not that I was invited to many of them.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  You have to throw them. Your parents have to go away, you have to throw them, and then everyone shows up and they still don't talk to you. That's my experience. They're just here for the house.

• 17:26Speaker 03

  Speaking of that, they're just here for the house. Uh, once, one weekend, when I went to Washington DC to, for, to be a presidential scholar, my parents went with me.

• 17:38Speaker 02

  Party.

• 17:38Speaker 03

  And my brother famously threw, like, the biggest house party our town had ever seen at our house. And it was like, the kind of house party that people talk about for years, like, da-da-da. And he, so my brother was a lot cooler than me, he took photos of everything in the house, he hired professional cleaners. So we come home and it's like, nothing has happened. So my parents come home from this, like, nerd thing I went to with me, and we're walking through the house, and my mom, some of the time, she's just like, something's off. And she noticed, like, the smallest, tiniest difference, something had been moved, and my brother cracked immediately when she called him out on it.

• 18:20Pablo Torre?

  I recently did wonder, while I was just, uh, unable to sleep one night recently, like, could I recreate my entire living room from memory?

• 18:27Speaker 02

  No.

• 18:29Pablo Torre?

  I could not.

• 18:30Speaker 02

  No.

• 18:31Pablo Torre?

  I could not.

• 18:33Speaker 02

  No, my memories are [BLEEP]. Oh, so the point, my point was, partying. We need to do it more.

• 18:38Pablo Torre?

  Well, that's the takeaway from this article. Is that like if we all threw two parties a year, that's the action item. America would be in a better place.

• 18:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, lucky for you, my birthday is next week. So get started.

• 18:47Speaker 03

  Are you gonna have a party?

• 18:49Speaker 02

  I don't think so. I don't know. I, um, I'm, look, I haven't worked in a while and I'm working a bunch now. So I'm like, I don't know, if we're gonna have a party, it's just gonna have to happen to me. I'm not gonna be, I haven't put any thought into it, but, uh.

• 19:03Speaker 03

  I do throw myself a birthday party every year.

• 19:06Speaker 02

  You should. Everybody should. I think it's like an excuse to bring the friend, your friends, even if they're not all friends with each other necessarily. It's like a.

• 19:13Speaker 03

  This is, this is my favorite part about adult parties. If I'm the organizer, is watching people from different worlds.

• 19:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:19Speaker 03

  Speak to each other and like, very, yeah, that I enjoy that.

• 19:24Speaker 02

  Are you renting like a venue?

• 19:27Speaker 03

  Some, I have in the past. I'll all get like a room at a bar or, I, I, but I, we do house parties for me. A couple of years ago, before I got pregnant, rager, absolute rager.

• 19:38Speaker 02

  I've never been to a party yet.

• 19:39Pablo Torre?

  I was, I was at a wedding recently with Mina and she got hammered.

• 19:45Speaker 02

  Nice.

• 19:46Pablo Torre?

  Just saying.

• 19:47Speaker 02

  I love that.

• 19:47Speaker 03

  It's irrelevant.

• 19:48Speaker 02

  Irrelevant story.

• 19:49Pablo Torre?

  It's a rel, it's entirely relevant. It's the one topic where it is relevant.

• 19:52Speaker 02

  No, it's not, cause it's not, it wasn't really a party, it was a wedding. Weddings are different.

• 19:55Pablo Torre?

  Uh, weddings are the ultimate party.

• 19:57Speaker 02

  But it's like, they're not really, they're a separate thing.

• 19:59Pablo Torre?

  Hmm.

• 20:00Speaker 02

  They're their own thing.

• 20:00Speaker 03

  What's one thing I did, by the way, that tells you that, you have no evidence?

• 20:04Speaker 02

  How'd you know she was hammered?

• 20:05Pablo Torre?

  Cause I was talking to her.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  And she was saying?

• 20:12Speaker 02

  And she said?

• 20:13Pablo Torre?

  You're just talking like this.

• 20:15Speaker 03

  That's not how I sound.

• 20:17Speaker 02

  Damn slur.

• 20:17Speaker 03

  No, no, if anything, I am incredibly nice and overly complimentary.

• 20:22Pablo Torre?

  They can't stop my home.

• 20:23Speaker 03

  No, that's not how I sound. No, no, no, no, no, no. Do too deep. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. What? I don't know. It's a horrible impression, first of all. Secondly, if anything, I was like, Pablo, you're doing great. Everything's great.

• 20:37Speaker 02

  Pablo, we don't say it enough.

• 20:39Speaker 03

  You're doing it, man.

• 20:40Speaker 02

  I really do love you. I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud.

• 20:44Speaker 03

  I'm sure it was closer to that.

• 20:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:46Pablo Torre?

  There, there, there was a lot of, uh, slurred positive reinforcement.

• 20:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:51Pablo Torre?

  Now that I think about it.

• 20:52Speaker 02

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• 21:04Pablo Torre?

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• 21:49Pablo Torre?

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• 22:34Pablo Torre?

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• 25:10Pablo Torre?

  Mina, what did you bring us clear-headedly to discuss today?

• 25:17Speaker 03

  So it's not one story. It's obviously just more like a broader news story that's being written about a great deal. But I am curious to hear guys' thoughts on the TikTok ban, which as of this recording TikTok is available because the President of the United States signed an executive order basically delaying the ban, the ban, pardon me. It's unclear to me, even after reading about 20 articles, what is legal and what's not in terms of whether or not he can actually stop it, because this was something that Congress passed a law, the Supreme Court. By the way, like, just to, for folks who haven't followed, I guess I should lay out, the reason why Congress did so is this belief

• 26:00Speaker 03

  that a foreign government shouldn't control like a major US media outlet. It's less about actually propaganda and more about their ability to collect information and you can collect a whole lot of information on people based on TikTok usage. And the crazy thing that happened too is like, we live in a world in which Congress doesn't agree on anything. The Supreme Court doesn't agree on anything. It was like unanimous, right? So both sides of the aisle were like, yeah, this seems bad. The Supreme Court was like, yeah, this is probably a bad idea. So just, that's the backstory for people who don't know. But I know the ban was a point-

• 26:32Speaker 02

  Full backstory, it was Trump's idea originally. Was it not, was he not the first person who came out and was like, I think we should ban this?

• 26:37Pablo Torre?

  When he was the 45th president, and then 47, very much in disagreement.

• 26:41Speaker 03

  Now he saved it.

• 26:42Pablo Torre?

  Yeah.

• 26:43Speaker 03

  Well, and so now he likes it because, and when he's asked about it, he likes it because he's like, mm, young people love it and I'm popular on there.

• 26:50Pablo Torre?

  A reporter asked him at a press conference, "Why did you change your mind about TikTok?" And Trump's quote was-

• 26:55Speaker 07

  Because I got to use it. And remember TikTok is largely about kids, young kids. If China's gonna get information about young kids, I don't think-

• 27:07Speaker 03

  To be honest, I think we have bigger problems than that.

• 27:12Speaker 02

  We do have bigger problems.

• 27:13Pablo Torre?

  I mean, not, not wrong, not wrong.

• 27:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, but actually, that's Well, that, that, for me, that was kind of like, in some ways, my experience of this story over the last week was, I was a little, first, I was a little bit put off. I'm like, put off by the fact this was like the biggest story in America on a moment when things that I felt were much more significant were happening, other executive orders, other things. But, you know, I, I think as I've kind of read more, or not read more, but thought more about it, I do think it, setting aside the legality aspect of it, um, I would like to hear your guys' thoughts on, I don't know, whether you think it's like a bad or a good thing, I guess, if it goes away?

• 27:57Pablo Torre?

  Katie?

• 27:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm, I don't

• 27:58Pablo Torre?

  You use this, you, among us, are clearly the most power user.

• 28:03Speaker 02

  And I have like, I have like 9,000 like disparate thoughts on it that like, don't all, so number one, I think a lot of the narrative about TikTok is like, it's just stupid dances. And I feel like we are glossing over a lot of the value that TikTok provides. Like, I feel like people were very, oh, I don't use TikTok. I'm not, I'm not a child. I'm not dancing on the internet. And it's like, well, there's a lot of people, there's a lot of people who like, uh, uh, run businesses on TikTok. There's a lot of like, interesting commentary on TikTok, um, musicians that you would never have heard of, that you know now because of TikTok. Like, it's, it, it is what it is. It's a, it's a social media app. It is a center for brain rot.

• 28:48Speaker 02

  But it is also like, it's, it has, it's, let's not like paint it with a broad brush and say that it's just like garbage. Like, it's, they all are then in that case.

• 28:58Pablo Torre?

  Do you agree that TikTok and its popularity is rooted in this branding, that it's the one social media app where you actually tend to feel good? Like, that seems to be, it's joyous, it's fun.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  I think the comment sections in my experience tend kinder. I think when they're mean, they can be very mean. But I do think my first reaction when I was, first started scrolling through TikTok was that like, whoa, the comments are like, hyping this person up instead of bullying them. I will also say, it's a place where like, I know that the government's issue with it mainly, as you said, Mina, wasn't the propaganda aspect of it, but It is a place where you can hop on and share your opinion. And it's possible your opinion is being influenced by these opinions that are being put out there by people that have nefarious means or like it is, you can see how it could be used,

• 29:53Speaker 02

  as any media could be used, to spread propaganda effectively.

• 29:58Pablo Torre?

  Right. So like, part of my understanding was that TikTok in America was very different from TikTok in China. And that we got the version that is far more brain rotting than the one in China. And that, to your point about like, is it corrupting its users' health in some way? I can see the argument there. That made sense. When it comes to like, privacy though, which is another big plank in this sort of argument, it just feels like nobody cares.

• 30:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:25Pablo Torre?

  Like, as much as it is on paper, a really important priority, nobody cares.

• 30:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think kids were born into a world where that's everything. They just watched an inauguration where the owners of all of the social media were with the president.

• 30:39Pablo Torre?

  Including the TikTok CEO.

• 30:40Speaker 02

  Right. And you're like, okay, so the government's always got my data. Kids care so little that when they got rid of TikTok for a few hours, they downloaded an app officially owned by the government of China to replace it.

• 30:51Pablo Torre?

  But Mina, the whole thing about like, kids, it's also adults who just, I think, are like, we are so far gone. Yeah, like, we're not losing sleep over this. And so who's actually fighting for the banning of this thing, other than people who are worried about, you know, the Chinese government from a governmental, political perspective?

• 31:09Speaker 02

  Well, that's the other side of it. So yeah, I think most of the legal case seems to be about the kind of data collection side. But the other side is like, you know, the Chinese government is involved in these things and they have influence over their companies. And there's been a lot of studies about whether or not that's affected the actual content put out on TikTok. And I've found a lot of it to be pretty convincing and credible, by the way. I guess for me, to go back to kind of what Katie said about like, just... Setting aside, again, the data side, let's just kind of cut to like, is this a net good or a net bad? That's kind of what I'm thinking through. And Pablo, you hit on something which is, I think, a point in its favor, which it does seem like a more positive place in a lot of social media.

• 31:53Speaker 02

  I guess for me, I kind of have two thoughts or two ideas in my head at once, one of which is, I think, Katie, you're right, like, there is a lot of, like, actually lovely content on there. You know, I've watched things about parenting and cooking and science and educational things. So it's not a wasteland devoid of culturally significant or enlightening content. It's there, right? But I am still so profoundly uncomfortable with the fact that so many people get, not just their news, but how they feel about major events, stories, public figures, your point, is dictated not by facts but by an algorithm. It's by what's popular.

• 32:37Speaker 02

  And that's where I really feel like it's largely a net negative. And that, to me, kind of outweighs the good things that I'm seeing.

• 32:46Pablo Torre?

  Katie, like, the whole thing about, uh, we're gonna lose all of this stuff. What would you have missed the most?

• 32:53Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 32:54Pablo Torre?

  As you were contemplating TikTok being at least temporarily banned?

• 32:58Speaker 02

  If I'm honest, if I'm completely honest, I think what I would miss the most is hearing other people's drama. Drama that does not affect me, but that someone else is really fired up about. I would miss that. I would miss getting FaceTimed. Like, I've watched a lot of TikToks where I feel like I'm FaceTiming with somebody who I don't know, and they're telling me a juicy story. And yeah, sometimes you're like, I don't really care what this is, and you scroll away. But there's like, something to, like, an average American TV. It just feels like, and obviously, everybody's putting on some, they're presenting some sort of a something, so I'm not saying everyone's being authentically themselves.

• 33:35Pablo Torre?

  Putting on that eyelash filter.

• 33:36Speaker 02

  Yeah. But... It was like where you hear from just people. Anybody can upload. Anybody can upload and it can get enough traction and can go like I could just bump into the experiences of regular people scrolling through my phone.

• 33:52Pablo Torre?

  So wait, did it feel like that though? Is that part of TikTok's whole thing? Is that unlike Instagram where it's like tied to your to some real account? Like TikTok was sort of a more open field of uh.

• 34:03Speaker 02

  Well, it's I mean, it's tied to real. No, I think there probably was machinations to it that I don't understand. But if you put up a banger of a video, it's going to get out to more people and more people will see it no matter who you are. So you could be a big account, but like my TikTok algorithm didn't have any of the like TikTok influencers that I know of through like people talking about TikTok. But it had like just like like Lola Young. I don't know if anybody knows her. She's a musician that I love from England. I never would have heard her music if I hadn't had TikTok. I found Dochi on TikTok forever ago. Like, that's just like, uh.

• 34:36Speaker 03

  That's a big part of it.

• 34:37Speaker 02

  Stuff.

• 34:38Speaker 03

  A music discovery.

• 34:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:40Pablo Torre?

  So but that but that question mean of like, what can you not get elsewhere? Like, what is this doing that the other places that we're all subscribed to in ways that make us think we're all so far gone on privacy that why do we even care anymore? We have so many of these apps like that part. Like, is there a unique argument for what TikTok was able to cultivate?

• 34:57Speaker 03

  I think Katie just made it, right? Which is like the idea of like regular people surfing a wave and that discovery you would get from seeing someone who either was just very funny, sometimes unintentionally, or maybe had some kind of artistic talent that they never would have found a platform for elsewhere. And I think that's all true. My problem is sort of that it had become sort of overtaken by one, the fact that so many people started treating it as a business and are just selling you stuff or just, you know, shoveling shit. Or and the fact that, you know, it has replaced. A lot of traditional media in functions that I don't think it's capable of or prepare for. But that goes beyond TikTok, of course, Pablo.

• 35:42Speaker 03

  That's, you know, all of social media as a news source. So I think it's just, it, it, it, it still does great things, but it also became everything for people. And I think that's not a good thing.

• 35:53Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, I think that it's hard to say that this is uniquely harmful, even if it is.

• 35:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:58Pablo Torre?

  Maybe uniquely compromised by the government that had sort of cosigned it and exported it to us. But I guess the question is, would you rather have newspapers or this?

• 36:14Speaker 03

  Newspapers.

• 36:15Pablo Torre?

  This is where I would insert that song that you said you were gonna find. You can insert it in post.

• 36:19Speaker 03

  I think he's gonna play something. Oh, fair enough. Do you want me to play it?

• 36:33Speaker 03

  This is my other favorite thing about TikTok that I will miss when it goes away, which is the universal experience of playing a TikTok you love for everyone else.

• 36:42Speaker 02

  You guys are out of your mind. If that's not catchy to you, you're out of your fucking mind. That's a banger. That song is a banger.

• 37:00Pablo Torre?

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• 37:56Pablo Torre?

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• 40:05Pablo Torre?

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• 40:20Pablo Torre?

  So our producers, using sophisticated artificial intelligence adjacent technology, did a bit of scouting. They found some faces from around the NFL playoffs and the outer regions they're in. And we're gonna see what it's like when some people look like, I don't know.

• 40:42Speaker 02

  What is this?

• 40:43Pablo Torre?

  What's the way I wanna say this? What's the way I wanna say this?

• 40:46Speaker 02

  So confused by this game.

• 40:47Pablo Torre?

  Show the first photo.

• 40:50Speaker 03

  Like, once a year, somebody puts out NFL quarterbacks as women.

• 40:53Speaker 02

  Right.

• 40:53Speaker 03

  And then it just immediately turns into who's the hottest.

• 40:57Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, we're hotter nodding. The coaches as women. The female versions of a variety of men involved in the NFL. Because I looked for that list that Mina had referenced. No one had done it, and so we were the change we wanted to see in the world.

• 41:10Speaker 02

  Mandy Reed.

• 41:11Pablo Torre?

  Yeah. Andrea Reed.

• 41:12Speaker 02

  Candy. That's probably Candy Reed.

• 41:15Speaker 03

  I'm not getting a Candy vibe.

• 41:19Pablo Torre?

  But she looked friendly to you.

• 41:20Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 41:21Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 41:22Speaker 02

  Yes. She is, she makes those seven-layer bars that have the chocolate chips and the coconut and the, yeah, yeah. That's what she brings to the bake sale. And she always makes more than enough, like it's a good amount of bars.

• 41:38Pablo Torre?

  I think that she has lots of things that she has recipes for that have numbers in the title. Like, a six-cheese macaroni.

• 41:48Speaker 02

  Right, a five-layer dip.

• 41:50Speaker 03

  Andy Reid famously makes like a six-cheese macaroni. Do you not know this?

• 41:56Pablo Torre?

  What do we got next?

• 41:56Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 41:57Pablo Torre?

  Here we go.

• 41:58Speaker 03

  Looks the same.

• 42:00Pablo Torre?

  Speaking of precocious.

• 42:01Speaker 03

  Almost identical to male.

• 42:03Pablo Torre?

  Also, also named CJ. CJ works, I think.

• 42:07Speaker 02

  Catherine Jane.

• 42:09Pablo Torre?

  Catherine Jane Stroud. I'm getting high school musical. I'm getting a sunniness in her eyes. I think this person likes to dance in a group setting. I think she's cool.

• 42:22Speaker 02

  I'm getting that we didn't slide the slider over far enough. I'm seeing too much CJ Stroud in this woman.

• 42:28Speaker 03

  This just looks like CJ Stroud.

• 42:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, the eyes are a little different. I think they looked, they probably gave her some lashes or something and maybe made them a little bit more like up a little like we do with our makeup, whatever that's called. But it's, this is still just CJ Stroud to me.

• 42:42Pablo Torre?

  Was the hair changed? Was the hair changed at all?

• 42:45Speaker 03

  Barely, a little bit. I mean, just turned into a curl. Pablo, this is a thing on Instagram and TikTok that many, that women use. We're all, it's like a filters where you just get lashes and that's what happened here, right? It's like, it'll, they always have names like light makeup.

• 43:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, or flawless filter, flawless face.

• 43:05Speaker 03

  And then you put it on, you're like, whoa, I'm yesified. But that, this just looks like CJ Stroud with lashes.

• 43:12Pablo Torre?

  What's next?

• 43:14Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 43:15Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we know this person, right?

• 43:19Speaker 03

  Okay, so this brings me to an interesting memory that I feel like everybody has forgotten, which is, do you remember when Travis Kelce shaved his beard and America was like, is he actually hot?

• 43:32Pablo Torre?

  I don't remember this.

• 43:33Speaker 02

  No, I have memory hold.

• 43:35Speaker 03

  Nobody remembers this. One, like, this is pre-Taylor Swift, obviously.

• 43:39Speaker 02

  I was gonna say, the way that Travis Kelce was pre-Taylor Swift, I think is also being memory hold.

• 43:45Speaker 02

  Just as a, personality wise.

• 43:46Pablo Torre?

  He had a, he did host a reality show.

• 43:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:49Pablo Torre?

  That seemed less likeable than he is now.

• 43:51Speaker 02

  Yes. Yeah, this person's name is Samantha. I knew that right away. I looked right at the picture and I said, oh, Samantha? So that's, I know that doesn't rhyme with any of his name in any way, but that's a Samantha if I've ever seen one. She's a coach of a women's high school team.

• 44:05Pablo Torre?

  Field hockey.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm, or softball.

• 44:08Pablo Torre?

  Yep, part down the middle.

• 44:09Speaker 03

  This gal has a big smile, but she's a bully.

• 44:14Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 44:15Pablo Torre?

  Mina's encountered Samantha before.

• 44:18Speaker 03

  This girl, yeah, this girl pointed out in front of everyone that my Doc Martens were not real Doc Martens. They're from Payless.

• 44:26Pablo Torre?

  Damn.

• 44:27Speaker 02

  The stitches are the wrong color.

• 44:28Pablo Torre?

  Damn.

• 44:29Speaker 03

  What stitches, Katie? What stitches?

• 44:32Pablo Torre?

  What's next, guys?

• 44:33Speaker 02

  Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, hard to look at.

• 44:37Pablo Torre?

  So.

• 44:38Speaker 03

  Who is this?

• 44:39Speaker 02

  That's, um.

• 44:40Pablo Torre?

  This is, this is Senator Elizabeth Warren.

• 44:44Speaker 02

  That's, um.

• 44:45Pablo Torre?

  Snuck her into this.

• 44:46Speaker 02

  What's his name? That's what's-his-face. Pablo say his name.

• 44:51Pablo Torre?

  You're so close.

• 44:52Speaker 03

  I cannot tell.

• 44:53Pablo Torre?

  Shares a first name with someone in your life.

• 44:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, Dan Quinn. It's Dan Quinn?

• 44:56Pablo Torre?

  It's Dan Quinn.

• 44:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:57Speaker 03

  That's Dan Quinn?

• 44:59Pablo Torre?

  That's Dan Quinn.

• 45:00Speaker 02

  God, that's so funny. That's like a...

• 45:02Pablo Torre?

  Yo, Dan Quinn is a MILF. Can I just say that? I'm into Dan Quinn.

• 45:06Speaker 02

  Oh my god, so hot.

• 45:09Speaker 03

  I've seen this.

• 45:09Speaker 02

  So hot.

• 45:10Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, I'm gonna go the other way on that.

• 45:12Speaker 03

  All the quarterbacks are hot. Most, all of them are hot.

• 45:13Speaker 02

  It's not for you. You don't want to bang Patricia Mahomes.

• 45:17Pablo Torre?

  Patricia Mahomes is a little too eager.

• 45:21Speaker 02

  Eager?

• 45:22Pablo Torre?

  I'm getting, I'm getting eager. Thirst.

• 45:26Speaker 02

  Is this hot male Mina? Because this is gonna [bleep] me up.

• 45:29Pablo Torre?

  So the reason this is remarkable...

• 45:31Speaker 02

  Zoom into the face if you can.

• 45:33Speaker 03

  That's, this is, this is my brother.

• 45:36Pablo Torre?

  This is...

• 45:36Speaker 03

  My brother's superimposed onto my body.

• 45:39Speaker 02

  Huh. Interesting.

• 45:41Pablo Torre?

  Like, the thing about that theory is that...

• 45:44Speaker 02

  I love that outfit, by the way.

• 45:46Pablo Torre?

  We didn't superimpose your brother's face onto your body. That's actually what the technology gave us.

• 45:51Speaker 02

  Why did it do that gray thing on her shoulder then?

• 45:54Pablo Torre?

  Yes, it is. Hold on, is that true?

• 45:55Speaker 02

  Why did it do that thing on her shoulder?

• 45:57Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, everybody behind the glass, this is ju... Mina, this is the AI. This is not...

• 46:01Speaker 03

  No, it's not. You literally took a picture of my... Shut up.

• 46:06Pablo Torre?

  It's not. Katie's walking up to the, to the screen to evaluate.

• 46:12Pablo Torre?

  I mean, look, I'm...

• 46:13Speaker 02

  It's weird because her right ear is hers. The left ear, it does look like you cut a picture and put it on her, on her hair. It's trying to... Okay.

• 46:20Pablo Torre?

  For various reasons, this looks identical to Isaac Gimes.

• 46:26Speaker 02

  Which I, for the record, I'm not saying.

• 46:29Pablo Torre?

  Mina said it. And that's the best part.

• 46:32Speaker 03

  For various reasons, perhaps it's our shared DNA.

• 46:37Speaker 03

  Perhaps that's the reason. I've done this, when we did this back with HQ and we did the male version, I looked a lot like Isaac. I remember. I don't think I would look like my brother at all.

• 46:47Pablo Torre?

  Well, let's see.

• 46:48Speaker 02

  Oh, boy.

• 46:51Speaker 02

  Oh my god. Oh my god, a nightmare. Oh my god, a nightmare.

• 46:56Pablo Torre?

  Look at, look at him.

• 46:59Speaker 03

  I see, uh, Jimmy Garoppolo.

• 47:03Pablo Torre?

  Yup.

• 47:04Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 47:05Pablo Torre?

  We're getting some top notes, some top notes of Garoppolo.

• 47:09Speaker 03

  Big win for you.

• 47:10Speaker 02

  Thank you, guys.

• 47:11Pablo Torre?

  There is, there is, uh, you know, some, some-

• 47:14Speaker 03

  How did it make her jacked?

• 47:15Pablo Torre?

  Some Ricky Martin.

• 47:18Speaker 02

  Little Ricky Martin.

• 47:18Pablo Torre?

  Some are saying.

• 47:20Speaker 03

  Looks a little bit like Henry Cavill.

• 47:23Speaker 03

  Wow, that now is a lie, now that I'm looking at it.

• 47:26Pablo Torre?

  Katie?

• 47:27Speaker 02

  Uh, this is weird.

• 47:29Pablo Torre?

  Sebastian Stan also, people are saying, many are saying. But you're, you're, you're a Chad. I mean, this is, you're-

• 47:35Speaker 03

  He is a Chad, yeah.

• 47:35Speaker 02

  A Giga Chad?

• 47:37Pablo Torre?

  A Tetra, Giga Chad.

• 47:39Speaker 02

  A Tetra Chad?

• 47:40Pablo Torre?

  How does this compare to your brother Kevin?

• 47:43Speaker 02

  I mean, I'm actually, I kind of see it more than I've ever, when I look at my brother and I'm like, we don't look alike. I kind of weirdly do see it here, but not a lot. Not a lot, but a little, more than I usually do.

• 47:57Pablo Torre?

  Do we have another angle on this that we can examine?

• 47:59Speaker 02

  It's also the same haircut I had my whole childhood.

• 48:01Pablo Torre?

  It looks incredibly-

• 48:02Speaker 02

  It's what it looked like for my childhood.

• 48:04Pablo Torre?

  Incredibly natural.

• 48:04Speaker 02

  Okay, now that, I'm dating him, so-

• 48:07Speaker 03

  Wow, hello.

• 48:08Pablo Torre?

  That is Jimmy T. That is Jimmy, this-

• 48:10Speaker 03

  Hello.

• 48:10Pablo Torre?

  This guy, Keith Nolan, loves and deserves, uh, the finest adults, adult film star, to join him at dinner.

• 48:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's right. He's, uh, he wears a deep V and a necklace or two. Not bad. Okay, that's Dan as a lady. Okay, girl. Yeah, what a sweetie. Look at Myrtle.

• 48:34Pablo Torre?

  Myrtle looks completely, uh, nonplussed.

• 48:37Speaker 02

  It's her birthday, by the way. Happy birthday, Myrtle.

• 48:39Pablo Torre?

  Happy birthday, Myrtle.

• 48:40Speaker 03

  What if the technology did it to Myrtle too and you just couldn't tell the difference?

• 48:45Speaker 02

  It might have. I think Dan looks cute. I think he looks like the, um, not the lead, but a supporting character in like a teen movie, like Divergence or something. Like one of those movies about like, the world has ended and we're all teenagers. What do we do? Oh, my God. A teacher, my third grade teacher.

• 49:02Pablo Torre?

  I'm not just saying this, but like if you were to split screen this with, uh, Melissa McCarthy, it would be pretty.

• 49:09Speaker 02

  I think there'd be similarities. I think there'd be similarities.

• 49:12Pablo Torre?

  Pretty much the same.

• 49:13Speaker 02

  Is that what Dan wore that night? Or is that an updated?

• 49:18Speaker 02

  Did Dan wear that blouse with that jacket? She's like, look at me. Oh, my God, Pablo. Damn, are you the hottest of all of us?

• 49:26Pablo Torre?

  I look, I look, um, again, Katie is a predator. We're learning. But objectively speaking, you know, you want to protect this. You want to protect this, uh, this vulnerable creature. Bright eyes, whole life ahead of her.

• 49:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think she looks sweet. I think she looks sweet. Sorry, I won't be saying anything further. So as not to incriminate my, that's a beautiful woman. I watch her do dances on TikTok.

• 49:58Speaker 03

  She looks like my primary rival for valedictorian. High school. We're both doing, you know, extra studies to try to jack up our GPAs.

• 50:09Pablo Torre?

  I think we're, I think we should probably stop doing this now.

• 50:12Speaker 02

  The visual segment on the audio medium? Probably.

• 50:14Pablo Torre?

  This was a successful podcast.

• 50:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:16Pablo Torre?

  Great.

• 50:30Pablo Torre?

  What I found out.

• 50:31Speaker 02

  Out of your mind.

• 50:32Pablo Torre?

  What I found out at the end of today's episode of Pablo Torre Finds Out, a show about finding stuff out, is that I will never take lightly Katie Nolan's vulnerability when showing us a TikTok.

• 50:42Speaker 02

  You guys are out of your minds. It's a universally popular.

• 50:44Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, I'm sorry. I'd prefer to save journalism instead of whatever the [bleep] that was.

• 50:49Speaker 02

  Newspaper, it's owned by Jeff Bezos. You think that The Washington Post is better? It's owned by Jeff Bezos. They didn't endorse a political candidate.

• 50:58Speaker 03

  The worst is when you play one that you're like, "This is so funny." And then you play it in front of a group of people and they don't.

• 51:02Speaker 02

  They did a whole episode of that.

• 51:03Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, this is, this is, this is unfortunately a recurring and genuine phenomenon.

• 51:09Speaker 03

  OK, what about this then? Listen, we've all, no, don't do, don't.

• 51:11Pablo Torre?

  Why?

• 51:13Speaker 03

  I gotta go, guys. I gotta go do NFL stuff.

• 51:15Pablo Torre?

  Why is there a dancing, small, white child in front of Kendrick Lamar?

• 51:18Speaker 03

  Come on, Mina.

• 51:19Pablo Torre?

  I feel like.

• 51:22Speaker 03

  Bye. What'd you find out before you leave?

• 51:33Speaker 03

  I found out that Pablo did not go to a lot of parties. And did I really find that out? Because I could have guessed it. All right, bye, guys.

• 51:39Pablo Torre?

  OK, very good.

• 51:40Speaker 03

  Bye, Mina, love you.

• 51:52Pablo Torre?

  Pablo Torre Finds Out is produced by Walter Avaroma, Ryan Cortez, Sam Daywig, Juan Galindo, Patrick Kim, Neely Lohman, Rob McCray, Rachel Miller Howard, Carl Scott, Matt Sullivan, Claire Taylor, Chris Tumanello, and Juliet Warren. Our studio engineering by RG Systems. Our sound design by NGW Post. Our theme song, as always, is by John Bravo. And we will talk to you next time.

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