Lilly Singh: ON Why She Took A Break From YouTube

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• 3:09Lilly Singh?

  This desire to not waste time and not waste opportunities and not waste this life is honestly what drives me. Because I know what it feels like to not like life.

• 3:18Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 3:19Lilly Singh?

  So I don't want to go back to that place.

• 3:24Jay Shetty?

  I really hope that you've subscribed to our podcast. We've got over 1,000 5-star reviews. I'm genuinely so grateful for all the love and support. And I'm so excited to introduce to our next guest. Today's guest is none other than Lilly Singh, aka Superwoman, the incredible YouTube phenomenon. Now, I've been a huge fan of hers for a very long time. She's got a super kind heart. She's incredibly motivated and hardworking. And on top of all of that, she's someone who really wants to have a deep impact in the world. The incredible thing about Lilly is that despite her amazing success,

• 4:07Jay Shetty?

  she stays so grounded and so humble and so... So accessible and she had so many refreshing insight about building the right community, finding the right friends, building meaningful relationships. And I can't wait for you to hear her perspective. Of course, we all know her as a super hilarious, funny comedian, and involved in so many incredible projects, but she's also such a huge change maker, having such an incredible impact through all of her work around girl power. Please welcome to the show, my good friend and someone I can't wait for you to connect with, Lilly Singh.

• 4:51Jay Shetty?

  I am so excited to be talking to you today. I can't believe it. My new book, Eight Rules of Love, is out and I cannot wait to share it with you. I am so, so excited for you to read this book, for you to listen to this book. I read the audiobook. If you haven't got it already, make sure you go to eightrulesoflove.com. It's dedicated to anyone who's trying to find, keep, or let go of love. So if you've got friends that are dating, broken up, or struggling with love, make sure you grab this book. And I'd love to invite you to come and see me for my global tour, Love Rules. Go to jayshettytour.com to learn more information about tickets, VIP experiences, and more. I can't wait to see you this year.

• 5:36Jay Shetty?

  I am genuinely so excited and grateful to introduce this next guest to you. She's a multifaceted comedian, entertainer, and actress, and the founder of Girl Love. She's actually won pretty much every award I can think of. Sometimes I think she doesn't need an introduction, but I want to share a bit more about her. She's collaborated with everyone, from The Rock, to Bill Gates, to Will Smith, to Selena Gomez. The list goes on and on and on. She's launched her own book. She's launched her merchandise. She's launched an incredible show, and now her production company. Her name is none other than Lilly Singh, aka Superwoman. And beyond all these

• 6:17Jay Shetty?

  incredible achievements, she's someone that I've admired and watched from a distance for so very long, been a fan and a follower. But she's so genuine, so down to earth, such an incredible energy to be around. And I can't wait for you to experience this amazing human. Lily, thank you for being here.

• 6:33Lilly Singh?

  How much did my publicist pay you to say all of those things? That wonderful.

• 6:38Jay Shetty?

  Quite a lot, quite a lot, actually.

• 6:39Lilly Singh?

  Thank you, that's the best intro ever. I'm so happy to be here. And the feeling is so mutual. Jay is phenomenal and I would be nowhere else than right here, right now, with you.

• 6:47Jay Shetty?

  You're the sweetest, you're the sweetest. And I genuinely feel this, like when I was looking through your bio, when you look at everything you've achieved, and I know you've worked incredibly hard for it, and I know it hasn't come freely, cheaply, or by luck. It's been so much hard work from your side. But I want to ask you, out of all your successes, all your achievements, what's been the most meaningful thing for you?

• 7:06Lilly Singh?

  Woo, that's a tough question. Besides this moment right here, sitting with you.

• 7:12Lilly Singh?

  This, you know, I used to be embarrassed with this answer, but I've decided, I'm now deciding I'm not embarrassed by this answer. This is my answer, okay. My answer is collaborating with The Rock. That is honest, and I know that seems kind of like surface level, basic, but I'll tell you why. When I was younger, he was my biggest inspiration. Like, I wish I could take you back to little Lily's bedroom with posters of The Rock all over. My first email address was [email protected]. I'm just obsessed on the announcements when they'd call my name in elementary school. They'd say Lily the Rock sing. Like, literally, it was an obsession. So, they always say, don't meet your idols, because they might not be who you want them to be. He is so incredible. And not only getting to work with him and meet him, but just having him as a mentor who kind of like guides me and gives me advice.

• 7:55Lilly Singh?

  It's been a dream come true to know that this person I looked up for so long is such a great human being. So that was really important to me.

• 8:01Jay Shetty?

  And that's, I think that's a beautiful answer. I don't judge you for it at all. I think it's incredible when your 15-year-old self would high-five you for something, right?

• 8:09Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, no, 100%.

• 8:09Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, it's like, that's amazing.

• 8:10Lilly Singh?

  And it's not only the vanity of like, he's so cool and famous and The Rock and he's so hot. He's very hot. But it's also just like, oh, this person has proven to you that you can work really hard and be really successful, really rich, really famous, really nice. And I think that's the greatest lesson he taught me, is you can still be a good person, even if you have all those things.

• 8:29Jay Shetty?

  And you've built a real relationship with him. Like, that's the most special thing, too, I feel like.

• 8:33Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, my goal is just to build enough of a relationship with him where in our next life, we get married. So I'm really trying to like pave that foundation.

• 8:40Jay Shetty?

  I love it. It seems to be going well.

• 8:42Lilly Singh?

  I mean, yeah.

• 8:43Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 8:43Lilly Singh?

  I'm, I feel good about it.

• 8:44Jay Shetty?

  I love it. I used to be a huge Rock fan too. I remember reading his autobiography.

• 8:48Lilly Singh?

  He still is.

• 8:49Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, still is. I mean, like, when I was fifteen, sixteen, I remember reading his autobiography and just being blown away.

• 8:55Lilly Singh?

  Oh, yeah, a hundred percent. I had it too. I wrapped it in a round wrap.

• 8:57Jay Shetty?

  You did? Okay, I didn't go that far. But I remember it being one of, it was one of the first books I actually read.

• 9:01Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 9:02Jay Shetty?

  And it was just.

• 9:02Lilly Singh?

  Same, actually.

• 9:03Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and it was just, and I only read it because I was so into wrestling and I was like, oh, wow, let me get this book. And it was just mind blowing. I couldn't believe it that there was so much to someone that I just saw as a wrestler.

• 9:12Lilly Singh?

  Mm-hmm, a hundred percent.

• 9:13Jay Shetty?

  Amazing. We love you, The Rock.

• 9:14Lilly Singh?

  We love you. This is, this is why.

• 9:15Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, this is why. This podcast is dedicated to The Rock.

• 9:19Lilly Singh?

  That's right, that's right.

• 9:20Jay Shetty?

  No, I love it. Awesome. No, and that's a great answer. Thank you for being so honest. It's a great answer. And, and it is beautiful to see your childhood dreams come true or dreams that you never thought.

• 9:28Lilly Singh?

  That's been the best part of this whole journey. Truly. Nothing fulfills me like when I can hear the little lily inside me going, oh, my God, I can't believe you're doing that. I never want to be in the position of life where things don't excite me or make me nervous. People ask me all the time, like, are you still nervous before you go on stage? Or are you still nervous to shoot with this person or meet with this person? I hope for as long as possible, my answer can be yes. Because if it's not, then like, what's the point? I want to be nervous and excited. Like, there, there's the challenges of life disappear, you know?

• 9:55Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I love that. I was so nervous when we came to film the collab over Christmas.

• 9:58Lilly Singh?

  No, stop with me. Get out of here.

• 10:01Jay Shetty?

  I was so nervous. I was like, I've loved you for so long. I've watched all your videos for so long. Like, you're a pro.

• 10:06Lilly Singh?

  Oh, my God.

• 10:06Jay Shetty?

  And I was just like, literally.

• 10:07Lilly Singh?

  Jay came to my house and literally did a hundred times better than me and was a hundred times more professional. That's what happened, truly.

• 10:13Jay Shetty?

  But no, I believe in that as well. Like, even now when I'm speaking and I've, keynoting's been probably the biggest part of my life for the last thirteen years. And every time I go on stage, like, someone will say to me, are you nervous? I'm like, yes, I'm nervous. I totally get what you're saying.

• 10:23Lilly Singh?

  That means you care. I never want to stop caring. If I'm not super nervous, that means I don't care about the outcome and I always want to care about the outcome.

• 10:30Jay Shetty?

  I love that. And I, and I completely agree with you. Totally aligned. I wanted to go back a bit.

• 10:34Lilly Singh?

  We're the same person. Where I'm, I was a monk.

• 10:36Jay Shetty?

  You are a monk.

• 10:37Lilly Singh?

  Oh, my, I am a, we're the same level of openness. That's what I really want you to take away from this.

• 10:43Jay Shetty?

  Uh, yeah, I want everyone to talk that way. I agree.

• 10:46Lilly Singh?

  But Jay came to my house and did a B two K move. He kept doing this weird thing with his hands. I'm like,

• 10:52Jay Shetty?

  Weird?

• 10:52Lilly Singh?

  Why do you keep doing this? It's cool. And, sorry, we went, he kept doing this cool thing with his hands. And I was like, what are you doing? Can you just do it again for a second?

• 11:00Jay Shetty?

  No, I can't, I can't do it with a mic in front of me. It's harder.

• 11:02Lilly Singh?

  That's an excuse. You could, you could, and then he's like, it's a B two K move. And I'm like, We're best friends.

• 11:09Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, Andrew Simpson and so many other friends.

• 11:11Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, anyway.

• 11:11Jay Shetty?

  Anyway, yeah, back to you, back to you. I want to go back because I know you've talked about this. I've heard you talk about it in different places. I think it's important for us to do, seeing as we both share Asian parents. I want to talk about your relationship with your parents and how that has evolved over the years of seeing you start doing something that was obviously not something that Asian parents wish their kids to do.

• 11:31Lilly Singh?

  Oh, yeah, no, they were thrilled.

• 11:32Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, to now them being famous from it.

• 11:35Lilly Singh?

  Right.

• 11:35Jay Shetty?

  Right?

• 11:36Lilly Singh?

  Well, I mean, when I first told my, I always say, I'm very fortunate because when I first told my parents I want to make YouTube videos, they just didn't understand what I meant. You know, they weren't like, no, there's no way, you're not allowed. They didn't give me the typical answer of what will people think, which is generally what Asian people say.

• 11:53Jay Shetty?

  Sure.

• 11:53Lilly Singh?

  They were just confused, like, what do you mean? And I said, this is a site called YouTube and making videos. Give me a year. They said, you have a year to try this out. If it doesn't work, we want you to go to graduate school, but you have a year. So that gave me a countdown to really just teach myself how to edit, teach myself how to use a camera. I have a degree in psych, so I didn't know how to do any of this stuff. Truly, I researched, figured out how to edit on iMovie. Like, I was made a tripod out of books, did all the other things. Fortunately, it went somewhere. And so my parents are very supportive now, today, because it went somewhere. But I've always said my parents never said no to me doing this. And that's a really big deal because it's scary. You know, I always say, parents just want to make sure you're going to be okay. You know, when I was younger, I was like, my parents just don't want me happy. That's why they say no.

• 12:37Lilly Singh?

  But no, when you grow up, you realize your parents just want you to be okay. They want to know that we came to this country. I want to make sure she's going to have a good living and be financially stable. And that's all they're concerned about, really.

• 12:49Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 12:49Lilly Singh?

  And once they saw that I could be, they were like, okay, we can stop stressing out about this.

• 12:53Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I love that. And we need more parents to be that way, I guess.

• 12:56Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 12:56Jay Shetty?

  I love the idea of them just giving you a window.

• 12:58Lilly Singh?

  I honestly think it goes two ways, though. And I think this has come with age, like I said. Really putting yourself in your parents' shoes is something that I learned, especially when I moved to LA. You know, I was the first person in my family to move to another country for work. It's not because I got married, it was for work. And so that was a really big deal, especially as an Indian woman, a huge, huge deal. And the more I had to, the more I grew up and the more I moved away from my family, I realized why they do the things they do, why they say the things they do, and why they think the way they think. And it's, they're from a different time and place, and they're honestly trying their best, and they've done a great job. So when, every time we do have a little bit of friction, I have to remember that this is all very different from what you were used to. So I get why me making videos on the internet is scary. Like, I have to accept that, you know?

• 13:42Jay Shetty?

  You're so woke.

• 13:43Lilly Singh?

  I try.

• 13:43Jay Shetty?

  See, here we go. This is, as in what you're saying is so beautiful. There's, there's an amazing statement that I remember. I can't remember where it's from, but it's, uh, the day you realize your parents are right, your kids are telling you that you're wrong.

• 13:53Lilly Singh?

  Right, uh, no, a hundred percent. And my mom always used to say that to me.

• 13:56Jay Shetty?

  Oh, really?

• 13:56Lilly Singh?

  When you have kids, you're gonna see. And, and now I have a dog, so I get it. Because sometimes I'll be arguing with him, and he's telling me things, and I'm like, oh my god, my mom was right about this. So I get it.

• 14:04Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but I love that refreshing perspective. I, I think you're spot on as well. Like, I was very fortunate. My parents have always been extremely open to every one of my decisions. Even when I talk about becoming a monk, and then people were like, well, your parents not just... And I was like, actually, they weren't. They were just like, make sure you take care of your health, and make sure you take care of yourself. Like, it was so much more open than you'd believe.

• 14:24Lilly Singh?

  Right.

• 14:24Jay Shetty?

  And you're right, when you grow up, you, you start valuing that.

• 14:27Lilly Singh?

  No, a hundred percent.

• 14:28Jay Shetty?

  Thank you for that lesson.

• 14:28Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, of course. Of, oh, you're welcome.

• 14:31Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and you're like, you're like dropping lessons here now.

• 14:33Lilly Singh?

  And I think anytime I talk about my parents, I always, without a doubt, get people commenting, being like, well, my parents just don't get it. My parents would never support it. And I don't want to sit here and pretend like I know everyone's parents, or I know your situation. There very well may be a situation where the reality of the situation is maybe, yeah, sometimes the people closest to you can be toxic for your life. I'm very aware of that reality. But I do think it's worth that effort, and, and that genuine effort to really get to understand why your parents are the way they are. I think it's, it really helps you understand yourself as well.

• 15:04Jay Shetty?

  I love that.

• 15:05Lilly Singh?

  I really do think that. So I'm not encouraging anyone to be in a situation that's like toxic to them. But I just know, when I recall from my teenage years, I used to write off things as toxic all the time, be like, they just don't get it, without actually even trying to understand.

• 15:18Jay Shetty?

  Put yourself in your, in their shoes before you write it off. That's great advice. I love that. I love that. And I guess it's so much more healing and liberating too, to do it that way around, rather than just be like, everyone hates me.

• 15:29Lilly Singh?

  Exactly.

• 15:29Jay Shetty?

  Like, my parents hate me.

• 15:30Lilly Singh?

  Exactly.

• 15:31Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 15:31Lilly Singh?

  Whatever you say is true. I've always thought you can build your universe. So if you say everyone hates me, then yeah, everyone hates you.

• 15:36Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 15:36Lilly Singh?

  You know, that is what it is.

• 15:37Jay Shetty?

  How did you get so wise?

• 15:38Lilly Singh?

  You know, Tumblr quotes.

• 15:42Lilly Singh?

  No, I've had, I've had many opportunities in life to dive deep into my soul. So I think I've done that several times.

• 15:49Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 15:50Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 15:50Jay Shetty?

  Tell me about some of them.

• 15:51Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 15:51Jay Shetty?

  I'm gonna dive into this.

• 15:52Lilly Singh?

  You know, the reason I started making YouTube videos in two thousand and ten was because I was a very sad person. I was at the end of my university career, I was getting a psych degree. I didn't like what I was doing in school. My whole life, I was believed, like, I was taught to, okay, you're gonna go to university. Then you're gonna get out of university, you might go to graduate school, you might get a job, then you'll get married, then you'll have kids. And I just couldn't grasp that very linear way of living. And so when I was at the end of my university career, I was like, oh, well, I'm not ready to do any of those things. And I actually have no idea what I wanna do. And so I was in a very dark, just sad place. And so my career on YouTube was founded through me really digging inside myself and trying to find something that made me happy.

• 16:31Jay Shetty?

  Hmm.

• 16:32Lilly Singh?

  So the only reason I made YouTube videos is because it made me happy, not because of views or money. That wasn't a thing, two thousand and ten.

• 16:37Jay Shetty?

  It wasn't a thing, yeah.

• 16:38Lilly Singh?

  It was literally to make myself happy.

• 16:39Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 16:40Lilly Singh?

  So.

• 16:40Jay Shetty?

  And when I look at you and you can see that, it's like, what's kept you going that long? Because that's the beauty of it, right? Like, then you did it to make you happy.

• 16:46Lilly Singh?

  Mm-hmm.

• 16:47Jay Shetty?

  And I know that that's still a big part of your life today.

• 16:49Lilly Singh?

  Right.

• 16:49Jay Shetty?

  But like, what I admire about you the most is like, you're still doing it. And that's harder.

• 16:54Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, I think, you know, I've really analyzed what it is.

• 16:57Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 16:58Lilly Singh?

  Because if I'm being really honest, too much of anything isn't good. I've honestly learned that. I loved making YouTube videos, I still do. But then I got to a point in my life where I made so many and it became such a business and such an overbearing job where I was like, it's not as fun and I'm not enjoying it as much. And I think that happens to everyone when your passion and your job kind of collide like that.

• 17:16Jay Shetty?

  Hmm.

• 17:17Lilly Singh?

  But, I forgot where I was going because I instantly got stressed. I was like, oh, my god, my life is in chaos. But I think what it is, is that why I've kept going for so long is I'm really obsessed with the idea of growth.

• 17:28Jay Shetty?

  Hmm.

• 17:29Lilly Singh?

  It's always been a thing. I really like challenging myself, I like growing. And so now that I've, you know, I did the iMovie thing, now my life is kind of like, can I build a team? And you know how passionate I am about my team as well, this, can I build a business now? Can I now increase my social good efforts? It's always about just growing in some capacity. So I really think that this desire to not waste time and not waste opportunities and not waste this life is honestly what drives me. Because I know what it feels like to not like life.

• 17:55Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 17:55Lilly Singh?

  So I don't wanna go back to that place, I think is what drives me.

• 17:58Jay Shetty?

  That's awesome. No, it's so true. If you're not moving forward, you have to move backwards.

• 18:01Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 18:01Jay Shetty?

  So it's that kind of experience of like.

• 18:03Lilly Singh?

  What he said, what you said is my answer.

• 18:06Jay Shetty?

  You gave a much better answer. I love your answers. Your answers are amazing.

• 18:10Lilly Singh?

  Oh, thank you.

• 18:11Jay Shetty?

  It's amazing because it's honest. Like when I'm hearing you, it's great to hear a creator say, "I stopped loving creating and so I shifted." Like, it's amazing hearing you being that vulnerable and honest and open. And we are gonna get into that about, you know, the recent break you took from YouTube and everything. Like, for me, I fell in love with you more when you said that. Like, I was just like, that's so special for someone to say that. Like, even me sometimes, like, when I'm saying no to things that I say no to now, for before I say no, I have to just say, "Wait a minute, I would have died to get this opportunity one day."

• 18:41Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 18:42Jay Shetty?

  And I have to just be grateful before I say no, because it's like, if I just say no and I'm like, "Oh, yeah, now it doesn't matter." It's like, you're losing that part of your life that, once upon a time, this is what you wanted, right?

• 18:52Lilly Singh?

  Right. And it's such human nature. I feel like so much of my job is recognizing human nature and then developing habits that literally go against it. That's a prime example. Same with me. There's so many opportunities that come my way where I'm like, "Oh, I don't wanna do this." Or, "I don't wanna travel to this place." Where before I would be like dying. The first person that ever hired me internationally was actually London. First place that ever hired me internationally. I was over the moon that someone would want me to travel. And now I hear myself being like, "Oh, my God, a trip to some beautiful place. That sounds exhausting." So I had to like stop myself to be like, "Whoa, you're being ungrateful. You need to put yourself back, gain a healthy perspective because human nature does allow us to get used to everything.

• 19:35Lilly Singh?

  You'll get used to everything. You take a hundred trips to a vacation destination, you're gonna be like, "Oh, I'm sick of it." Something you would have really died to do before. So I really think a lot of my job is just checking myself in those moments and being like, "Don't do this. Don't go to this natural pattern of just becoming ungrateful."

• 19:52Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. And for anyone listening and watching right now, that's an awesome tip. Like, that's an awesome tip, awesome insight. Just whenever you catch yourself getting used to something, familiar to something, a person, a place, something happening in your life, whatever it may be, just catch yourself.

• 20:04Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 20:05Jay Shetty?

  And just switch it.

• 20:05Lilly Singh?

  Catching yourself is half the battle. No one's perfect, but catching yourself, that's where the real honesty comes in.

• 20:11Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, just being aware. Yeah, absolutely. And you were talking about social good, and I wanted to talk about that for a bit because... And you've got to remember, like, for me, this is an interesting interview because even though we only met last year, for me, it's like, yeah, I've been watching you for so long. So it's a very.

• 20:26Lilly Singh?

  This has the best.

• 20:27Jay Shetty?

  For me, it's, it's, it's, that's an interesting point because I've kind of been watching from a big distance. Like, we didn't know any, we didn't have any friends in common. We haven't known each other. And, and I just, I was like, wow, like, she's using what she's doing for social good. And I, I, I loved that. I was like, wow, like, you're using your platform for a higher purpose when you don't have to, whether it's girl love, whether it's UNICEF, like, all the amazing work you've done. Tell me where that started. Like, where did that come about in the whole Lilly Singh journey and world? And, and how did it become such an integral part?

• 20:57Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, you know, I, when I first started to realize that people were calling me their role models, I remember I sat down with myself and I was like, interesting, people are calling me their role model. I don't, how do I feel about this? And I made a rule for myself that was, you will never do anything that's not genuine to be perceived as a role model. That was a very big rule for my sanity. I was like, you can't, your job is so 24/7, you can't start being like, I believe in this, this, this, to be a role model if you actually don't. So, my rule's always been to be myself. Having said that, when I garnered such a large audience and I understood that I had an influence, I was like, well, I have the opportunity to also do something positive with this. And I feel in my heart that if I don't do something positive with it, it's just a wasted opportunity.

• 21:38Lilly Singh?

  Now add that with the grudge on my shoulder from being an Indian woman, and you have this really large desire to help issues around gender equality. I think that's where my heart lies the most. A lot of my work is around girls being able to go to school and girls having equal rights in parts of the world and access to healthcare and all that stuff. That comes from the fact that, you know, when I was born, a lot of people were unhappy with having an Indian girl, especially because I have an older sister, so we're a family of two sisters. And so many people were so sad at my birth, literally. Um, and so I've had that grudge on my shoulder and I know that quite transparent, like, I can say that very honestly. My whole life has kind of been a little bit of, I'm going to prove you wrong and I'm going to,

• 22:19Lilly Singh?

  and I always say, don't work hard to prove people wrong, prove your lovers right instead. I always believe in that. Having said that, there's still a lot of people suffering because girls are born. And and so I I do feel a strong passion in my heart to do something with the following I have.

• 22:32Jay Shetty?

  Hmm.

• 22:32Lilly Singh?

  You know, I think that's the the greatest, when you go back to one of my greatest achievements, the one that's not as shiny as The Rock is actually when I announced my world tour, the first one, A Trip to Unicorn Island. I made sure I did it in India first. That was important for me to announce it in India, my parents' motherland. And I went to Punjab to visit my dad's dad, um, my grandfather. And he greeted me with like flower guns and he said something to me where I was like, whoa. Probably met him like three times in my life, maybe. And he goes, you know, I was wrong. You are the girl, the person and a girl in our family who has had the most success. And that was like a huge statement for him to make. Because I remember what it was like for my mom when I was born and so, well, I don't remember what she told me.

• 23:17Lilly Singh?

  But yeah, so that was a really big achievement for me.

• 23:19Jay Shetty?

  That's huge.

• 23:19Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, and it was also, I like felt it for my mom. My mom was like, damn straight. You know, you know, and so like, I have that force where my mom like, was like, no, I have a second daughter and like, she's gonna be awesome. And she believed in me and I just hope I've done justice to that.

• 23:35Jay Shetty?

  I think you've done so much more. I think it's amazing to see someone defy cultural traditions and someone who's, especially, I didn't realize that it was that like somewhat closed off when you were born as well around the belief of having a girl, etc. But you've like blown that.

• 23:49Lilly Singh?

  No, but even even me, like, I I, you know, I was just working on writing a script and that's when I really like dived into my childhood and I was like, well, I had my wedding entrance song picked out before I knew what I wanted to do in life. Like, that's not who I am today, but as a young girl, that was true. And it it just goes to show how much it was embedded in my mind that my optimal achievement would be getting married. You know what I mean? And so, and so I just don't want to continue that pattern. So whatever I can do with my following to teach young girls that. You can get married, that's great, congratulations, that's fine, but that doesn't have to be your

• 24:22Jay Shetty?

  Defining.

• 24:22Lilly Singh?

  Defining moment, you know, they mean, I think that's important.

• 24:25Jay Shetty?

  I agree. Tell me about some of the stories of the girls you've worked with and amazing things that have happened or.

• 24:30Lilly Singh?

  Oh, my God, I've, you know what, every time I meet a young girl, so I've had the opportunity to go to so many parts of Africa, specifically in South Africa, so many parts of India. And I meet these young girls and they tell me these stories and I'm like, whoa, look, you are way more powerful and cool than I will ever be, truly, because they do some like awesome, awesome stuff. I just met a girl recently um who talked about the fact that in the community she lived in in South Africa, they didn't have a certain program in her school. And so she walked to whoever was in charge of this. I mean, forgive my lack of terminology, if whoever was in charge of whatever that school board was, like seventeen hours to go there. And then when she went there,

• 25:12Lilly Singh?

  they're like, yeah, we'll look into this case and we'll get back to you. They never did. So she walked back. I'm like, there's girls doing amazing things in the world that I'm just blown away by. And it's even more inspiring to me when I hear these stories. So I think if all of you had opportunities that we all have, like, think about the the space the world would be in right now.

• 25:31Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 25:32Lilly Singh?

  All of these amazing people that don't have the resources and don't have the opportunity, it's just they need it. The world would, think about how many cures we would have, how many more inventions we would have, how many solutions we would have, if all those people with brilliant ideas were empowered with resources.

• 25:44Jay Shetty?

  Especially because they've seen pain so firsthand.

• 25:46Lilly Singh?

  Oh, no, a hundred percent.

• 25:47Jay Shetty?

  Right? Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. That's a beautiful point. And and that's, it's great that you're using your voice and platform and that they're getting a voice from it too.

• 25:54Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, that's honestly what I want to do. It's not even about like girl love being Lily is the champ. It's the people who have the really good ideas, I want to just lift their voices because I have the platform to do it. It's not about my ideas, it's not about my beliefs, it's not about me. It's really about just lifting the voices that don't have a platform.

• 26:10Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely. Yeah, I interviewed one girl recently.

• 26:14Jay Shetty?

  Who actually doesn't even know her actual age because she escaped from a child slavery like space. And I interviewed her on the podcast and I was just like blown away, like, you know, being put into that terrible position from day one. Not knowing your age, like never knowing who your real family are, like not even having people to trust. And actually not even knowing that you're in a bad space and running, you know.

• 26:36Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, that's real, not even knowing you're in a bad space.

• 26:38Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, as in not even knowing that that's bad because that has become your normality, right? It's crazy, but yeah, thank you for everything you're doing, though.

• 26:45Lilly Singh?

  But I mean, it's it's truly a team effort, it's true. It's it's not only myself and my team, but it is very much so my following as well. Because I know that there's so many fanbases online that really want entertainment, really wanna laugh. My audience is like that, but they really care as well.

• 27:01Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 27:01Lilly Singh?

  They really, anytime I do a campaign, whether it's Girl Lover with UNICEF or with We, they are really behind it. And so my following is a lot to thank as well.

• 27:08Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah, thank you for having, attracting such an amazing following, yeah. Yeah, it's awesome. I absolutely love it. So I wanna.

• 27:14Lilly Singh?

  And also my posture is horrible. So if you're watching this, I apologize.

• 27:18Jay Shetty?

  Lily's Lily's being comfortable.

• 27:20Lilly Singh?

  I've been comfortable, I have horrible posture.

• 27:22Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 27:23Lilly Singh?

  Can you help me fix that?

• 27:24Jay Shetty?

  What do you wanna do?

• 27:24Lilly Singh?

  Is there a way to meditate my posture?

• 27:26Jay Shetty?

  We can, we can talk about that.

• 27:27Lilly Singh?

  Okay, okay, we'll talk about it later.

• 27:28Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, we'll bring that in there.

• 27:28Lilly Singh?

  I'm gonna try it. You have great posture.

• 27:30Jay Shetty?

  Do I?

• 27:30Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 27:31Jay Shetty?

  Oh, thank you. I think it's called the ballet I did as a kid.

• 27:33Lilly Singh?

  Did you really?

• 27:34Jay Shetty?

  No.

• 27:34Lilly Singh?

  Okay, cool, cool, cool.

• 27:35Jay Shetty?

  But I was, my my mom tried to get me into it at one point.

• 27:39Lilly Singh?

  I feel like you'd be really great at that for some reason.

• 27:41Jay Shetty?

  That's worrying.

• 27:42Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 27:43Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I don't think I'd be that good at it.

• 27:44Lilly Singh?

  Next video I do, guys, come with.

• 27:46Jay Shetty?

  But I wanna talk to you about this, you know, recent announcement that you made around taking a break from YouTube.

• 27:52Lilly Singh?

  Fine, I'm gonna take an anxious gulp of my drink.

• 27:53Jay Shetty?

  Do it, do it. I I, when I saw you do that, and I think I reached out to you and you did it, I was like, I thought it was extremely brave. I thought it was super sincere. It was really genuine and I and I looked and I was just like, again, you're just being a real model, like, you know, being someone that people can look up to, to be able to do that, I I can't imagine how hard that is to do. Like it's it's so tough to be able to do that. And I want to acknowledge that.

• 28:18Lilly Singh?

  Thank you, thank you. It was, yeah.

• 28:19Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, it's so tough to just turn around and tell everyone that you're doing this for that. Hey, I'm taking a break because I want to make content with better quality and stuff. I'm really excited about like, and the way you explained it, I was just like, this is so real. And and I think it's, we live in such a like clickbait world of like, people can say anything on social to get clicks. And it's like, when I watched that, I was like, wow, this, she's being so real.

• 28:40Lilly Singh?

  Thank you for saying that.

• 28:41Jay Shetty?

  It was just so real and I really want to acknowledge that and recognize that.

• 28:43Lilly Singh?

  Thank you. I appreciate that. It was really difficult, you know, especially, it was really difficult because of the obstacles and reasons I created in my own mind. I, my whole brand is hustle harder, productivity every day, do as many things as you can. And I believe that, I believe in working really hard. So for me to then turn around and be like, I'm gonna take a break and not work hard was very difficult. Not just from a public standpoint, but for even me, because there was a voice inside me that was like, is this because you're lazy? Or is this because you're making excuses? And I had to really learn, as I talked to you earlier, the word balance. I had to understand. I think it really hit me hard before that break was, I'm not being the best version of myself because I haven't given myself that little bit of balance I need. And so actually, if I want to hustle harder, I need to take this break.

• 29:28Lilly Singh?

  That was the biggest moment of clarity for me. And so it was really tough for myself. My fans are super supportive. Um, but in that break, it was about a month. It wasn't a super long break. But in that month, what I allowed myself to do was think. And I know that sounds very, can't you think anytime? But the answer was no, because my life was so, work, work, work, come home, work, be so tired, go to sleep without addressing any of the cloudiness I had in my brain. There were so many days where I got home and I was like, this thing is really on my mind. But okay, I'll, I'll deal with it later because I have to do this email. I'll, I'll deal with it later. I have to write the script. And so there were so many of those, I'll deal with it later, that I never dealt with it later. Um, and so really during my break, I just sat and I thought. And I cleared some stuff in my brain and I started writing things in my journal.

• 30:14Lilly Singh?

  And I came to the conclusion that, yeah, I could be happier if I took more time to create the art I'm so passionate about. And I've made a whole bunch of changes in my life that were prompted from that one month break that I'm very happy about.

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• 32:27Jay Shetty?

  Tell me some of the personal lessons that you garnered in that month of things you wanted to change.

• 32:30Lilly Singh?

  Uh, yeah, I, you know, it's so funny when people, isn't it interesting when people, you probably do this all the time. When people tell you about their problems, you give such a good answer, but you don't apply it to yourself all the time.

• 32:40Jay Shetty?

  Hundred percent, all the time, all the time.

• 32:41Lilly Singh?

  So people will tell me about like fatigue and I'll be like, it's okay, it's okay to take a break. It's okay to be balanced, like it's okay to re-energize, it's the best part of hustling. Never did it, never took time for anything to do. I got my nails done during the break and I was like, I am such a well-balanced human being right now. I tweeted about it four times while I was getting my nails done, ruined my nails, it was a whole thing. But I think the life lesson I learned was, it does not mean you're being unproductive if you're taking a break. It actually helps to be more productive. So that is something I've learned. Um, I've also learned that if you, I'm, I'm big on loving yourself. I always teach my audience that the most, the most difficult thing you can learn to do in life is love yourself, but it's the most important.

• 33:23Lilly Singh?

  Um, loving yourself also means it's okay to ask for help and say you're not okay. So that was a big thing. I, I tweeted all about finding a therapist and all that stuff. Where before, it's not that I thought it was wrong, but I think, you know, we grew up in a culture, it was a little taboo.

• 33:36Jay Shetty?

  Hundred percent.

• 33:37Lilly Singh?

  You know what I mean? You hear a lot of older Asian people being like, when we were younger, we, nothing was ever wrong with us and we didn't need to. So I think learning that was, was a big deal during my break. And also just like putting priority into my relationships was something I really, and that's something I say and joke about in my videos all the time. Like, ah, I'm single, ah, I have no friends, but that's so sad. Ah, no friends, ah, funny. Um, but I think in that break, I also learned that that takes effort. And if I'm really honest, I am constantly surrounded by people I pay to be near me. And so it's also a reality of like, you need to foster relationships with people you also do not pay to be around you. Your family, my siblings, my friends back home.

• 34:23Lilly Singh?

  And you need to know that they don't work for you. So when they say, Lily, shut up. We're not doing what you want to do. Like, that's what friendship actually is. You know what I mean? And so I had to really work on that.

• 34:33Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 34:34Lilly Singh?

  I also cooked a few more times.

• 34:35Jay Shetty?

  Oh, wow.

• 34:36Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 34:36Jay Shetty?

  These are real life lessons.

• 34:37Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 34:38Jay Shetty?

  These are amazing.

• 34:39Lilly Singh?

  Thanks.

• 34:39Jay Shetty?

  And and this and and you're so right. We're all so great advising everyone else.

• 34:43Lilly Singh?

  A hundred percent.

• 34:44Jay Shetty?

  We're all so great at it.

• 34:45Lilly Singh?

  People ask me for advice all the time. I'm like, okay, here's what you do. But literally, sometimes my life is in shambles, truly.

• 34:51Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can relate. I can relate. It's so it's so true. It happens all the time. And I think just the fact that you were brave enough to do that, to take that time out. It's a it's a great lesson for everyone else out there who needs to do the same. I just started this year without not doing any work in January at all, which everyone was like, how can you not work in January? Like, that's like the year where you got to get going. And I was like, yeah, because I needed to go in. I needed to meditate and I needed to reflect. And I needed to just go and have space. And and I felt it just coming back. I was like, oh, my God, I've got so much more space to be creative. Creative now and so many more ideas are coming to me and all the rest of it. And like you said, like, it's it's not a substitute. It's not like you're being lazy.

• 35:27Lilly Singh?

  Right.

• 35:28Jay Shetty?

  You actually come get to come back to do better.

• 35:29Lilly Singh?

  You know what, though, Jay? I have to tell you, I don't read all of the comments I get. One, because there's a lot, and two, because of my sanity. But I did see a comment when I said this. I was like, oh, being taking a break makes you more productive. And then someone wrote a comment and it really like made me think. And their comment was, that's a really privileged thing to say because people can't take breaks. And it made me think and I was like, I totally understand this perspective. And so I think, you know, for the people listening or watching this, if you are, because it is true, we're privileged sitting here like, oh, we got to take a month off work and cool. But I think it's also just about if you can't take a month off work, even just taking some more space for your mind.

• 36:10Jay Shetty?

  Hundred percent.

• 36:10Lilly Singh?

  Is what I'm trying to get at. You know what I mean?

• 36:12Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely.

• 36:13Lilly Singh?

  Where I came back to work and it's not like I'm I'm much happier now because after work I take time to myself and I'm making decisions that make me happier. So I I thought that was a really brave comment to make. Of course, my initial reaction was like, hater. But then I was like, no, let me actually think about this. And that's really true. Like, if you're not in a position to be like, oh, let me go away for a month, or let me take a break from work. I still think there's little ways you can balance your life and make yourself a priority.

• 36:37Jay Shetty?

  There we go. I love it. No, you're so right. Thank you for grounding that, actually. That's a beautiful way of putting it. And you're right, and that's the truth of it. Like, whether it's one hour, whether it's one day a week, one hour a week, whatever it is, one day a month.

• 36:50Lilly Singh?

  It could be as simple as having a conversation with someone that you've been having tension with.

• 36:54Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 36:55Lilly Singh?

  You know, it could be as simple as calling someone you haven't talked to in a long time and like grounding yourself with an old friend. It could be very, very simple. It's just making time for those little actions, I think.

• 37:03Jay Shetty?

  Hundred percent. I love that advice.

• 37:06Lilly Singh?

  You sound so smart. Oh, my god. Geez, good job.

• 37:11Jay Shetty?

  I wasn't expecting any less. Yeah, this is like, no, but it's great. This is what happens, and for everyone listening and watching, this is what happens when you do the work. Like, when you're actually taking a break, when you're actually thinking about this stuff, when you're being honest with yourself, the natural.

• 37:24Lilly Singh?

  It's honesty, if I had to pick one, it's being honest with yourself. It really is. And I think I learned that the hardest with Girl Love. You know, Girl Love, for those of you that don't know, is my social good campaign. That's women supporting women. It was such a hard, it was such a just hard journey for me because I myself have caught myself various times competing with other girls. I think it's natural, like, all of us have this thing inside us every once in a while. So for me now, being like, Girl Love, I'm a little girl, I'm wearing the pin right now, but then inside being like, oh, this girl is like, I had to check myself so hard and really learn how to be honest, especially because I was pegged as like, the girl on YouTube, you know, the colored girl on YouTube.

• 38:06Lilly Singh?

  And I had to believe truly, and I do believe now, that it's not about being number one. It's not about, it's about how many more girls can now do this because I've done it.

• 38:16Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 38:16Lilly Singh?

  You know what I mean? And so, Girl Love has taught me to like, really, in the most honest way, check yourself. And I think that's what self-care is, and I think that's what self-love is. It's about looking those nasty habits and thoughts and beliefs you have right in the eye and being like, I don't hate you for having this, but we're gonna work on this, you know?

• 38:33Jay Shetty?

  And it's the hardest but the best work. It is the hardest thing to do.

• 38:36Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, a hundred percent.

• 38:37Jay Shetty?

  It's the toughest thing to do. How do you, how did you do it in a way that it didn't bring you down? Like, how did you look at those negative things and then not start judging yourself and beating yourself up about it and take yourself down, rather than use it as a way to lift yourself up? How did you do that?

• 38:51Lilly Singh?

  I think I did it through. Quite simply changing it. I think once you identify the parts of yourself you want to improve, you then have a choice to say, okay, I'm going to continue to ignore this, or I'm going to make positive change. So I I'm a very pragmatic person. I believe everything can be like scientifically.

• 39:09Jay Shetty?

  It can.

• 39:09Lilly Singh?

  To do list broken down, every part of me. Like you should see me when I'm doing my reflection, like to do, to reflect on, I'm like very like that. So when I recognize these things, I actually write them down.

• 39:20Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 39:20Lilly Singh?

  Like this is a habit you have, this is a thought you have. Now, what are you going to do to change this? Step one, two, and three. And then when I go back, if I haven't done step one, two, and three, I know who to blame, I know what the issue is. There's no mystery there, it's laid out right in front of me. And so when it came to girl love specifically, when I thought, okay, you are jealous of this situation, you don't feel adequate, you're comparing yourself to these girls. I made actions one, two, and three. One was reach out to the girl. You're gonna have a conversation with this girl. Two would be find out why you feel this way and address that. So there was very like pragmatic steps on how to, that's me as a person. I sound like a crazy person.

• 39:56Jay Shetty?

  No, you don't, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna share something with you right now. When, so when we were monks, we, we had to do a similar process in the sense of like getting over, so we would identify what was wrong with us. So things like ego, pride, envy, lust, greed, anger, like the, the common things that we all deal with.

• 40:11Lilly Singh?

  Wait, greed is bad?

• 40:12Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. I know, yeah, sorry. You gotta go to monk school to recognize that one. But we literally would write down our internal default dialogue. Like what do we say to ourself when we feel envy, for example? So like, oh, why does he have that? Or she has that better than me. So we'd write down exactly what we say. And then we'd have to replace it with a new, fresh internal dialogue. So we actually had to write out what we wanted to think. So same as your three action points. Like what do I want to think when I actually feel envy? Like what do I want to choose to think? What do I wanna select to think?

• 40:43Lilly Singh?

  That's so great.

• 40:43Jay Shetty?

  So it's the same thing.

• 40:44Lilly Singh?

  That's so great.

• 40:44Jay Shetty?

  No, it's exactly, it's exactly the same thing and it works.

• 40:47Lilly Singh?

  I'm just a natural monk.

• 40:48Jay Shetty?

  You are, there we go. We just keep coming back to this realization.

• 40:52Lilly Singh?

  That's beautiful, that is really awesome.

• 40:55Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 40:55Lilly Singh?

  But I love that because. I feel so often when we talk about self-love and self-care and really analyzing yourself internally, people think it is very abstract and they don't know where to start. And I know I felt like that, I don't know where to start. How do I fix this? How do I even address this stuff? I think that's why my default is to go pragmatic is because it feels a little more able to control in that way, I guess, you know?

• 41:16Jay Shetty?

  Well, it's good. I think if you're not pragmatic, you then don't know what the source of the problem is. Like, you don't know what to look at. If you don't look at a process, like, you don't know what to change.

• 41:24Lilly Singh?

  Kind of like a blanket solution. It's like, I feel envy. Okay, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna try to be a better person. What does that mean? Like, what does that mean? You know what I mean? It's like, you gotta really get, in my book, I call it send the GPS deep.

• 41:33Jay Shetty?

  Nice.

• 41:34Lilly Singh?

  I call this, I believe we have like many layers in us. When you get to the real layer of like why you do something the way you do, you have to address it like that. And so I just feel like being pragmatic helps with that. Instead of just being, be better, be a better person.

• 41:45Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, be positive.

• 41:46Lilly Singh?

  I just like quotes like that, you know? Just, just try, try, believe. I'm like, no, me believing is not gonna help these F'd up issues I have down here. I've believed enough, okay? I have danced like no one's watching enough. They're not fixing the problems.

• 42:00Jay Shetty?

  Definitely. I'm glad I don't post quotes like that, just putting it out.

• 42:03Lilly Singh?

  No, your quotes are great, actually. Jay's quotes are great.

• 42:06Jay Shetty?

  No, I'm just putting it, no, I agree with you.

• 42:07Lilly Singh?

  They're also formatted so nicely.

• 42:10Jay Shetty?

  But that's, that's also the part of self-development and me being in that world. That was one of my biggest issues with it. And when I came into it, it was just like, I wanted to get away from saying things that are easy to say.

• 42:22Lilly Singh?

  Right.

• 42:22Jay Shetty?

  And they sound good, but if, if you give that to someone, it's like, well, they're like, well, how do? It's like showing someone a picture of an amazing cake and say, bake it from this picture.

• 42:31Lilly Singh?

  Exactly, no.

• 42:32Jay Shetty?

  Right? It's like, you can't. You need the recipe. So you're giving people recipes.

• 42:35Lilly Singh?

  Yeah. That's a hundred percent always my issue, and especially in L.A. I feel like every time I'm on a red carpet, people go, so how, are you excited to be here? And I'm always like, yeah. And I'm always like, one day, I just wanna be like. No, you know what? I feel like I just genuinely dislike answers that have no substance or ideas that have no substance. I feel like that's like a lot of the quotes you see online do that. They have this like shiny platter, no substance, and you don't know how to apply it.

• 43:02Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you for giving the real trips. Be as pragmatic in this as you like.

• 43:06Lilly Singh?

  Oh, I'm good.

• 43:07Jay Shetty?

  If you want to give steps, you want to give tips, do it.

• 43:09Lilly Singh?

  Here's my ninety-nine step guidebook.

• 43:11Jay Shetty?

  My audience loves that. Like, everyone who's watching and listening will love for you to be as hack like.

• 43:17Lilly Singh?

  No, honestly, I mean, if they have you leading them, then there's really nothing more I can provide. I promise you, I promise you.

• 43:22Jay Shetty?

  I genuinely don't believe that, like genuinely, otherwise I won't be sitting here talking to you. Tell me about some other hacks and hit trips and habits that you have, daily, weekly, monthly, anything that you do.

• 43:30Lilly Singh?

  Cool, to help me in my life?

• 43:31Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 43:32Lilly Singh?

  Um, okay. This is, this is again, very pragmatic. I think I'm a nerd, damn. Okay, so I'm a big believer in removing as many obstacles in my day as possible to be as optimal as possible. Right? And so I, every time throughout my day, something goes even mildly wrong, I write it down on my phone. I have a little note, and it can be like really simple. It could be like, I'm driving in my car, my lips are chapped, I don't have chapstick, I'm annoyed. Like, it can be really, really small, or it could be like really, really big. And then I actually dedicate time before I go to bed to solve those problems for tomorrow. And so my goal is every day to have as little friction that I can control as possible because I know there will be so many obstacles I can't control that will come my way.

• 44:17Lilly Singh?

  So whatever I can control will be controlled, and whatever I can't, I'll be prepped.

• 44:21Jay Shetty?

  That is amazing.

• 44:22Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 44:22Jay Shetty?

  I love that one.

• 44:23Lilly Singh?

  Super small things. So you'll notice like I obsessively have chapstick everywhere, in my car, in my desk. Phone charger is another thing, have them everywhere, all the time. So I think it's just about understanding you can't control things, but things you can control to do, I guess. That's one. Another one is.

• 44:40Jay Shetty?

  I like that one a lot.

• 44:41Lilly Singh?

  Mm-hmm, thank you. Another one is. Okay, this is, this is what I believe and I'm not admittedly not the best at putting it into practice, I'll admit. It's, it is a quote, actually. I don't know who said it, but it's, "Say what you mean, don't say it mean." I'm a big believer in speaking in straight lines, so there's very little room for assumption, but not being mean. So I struggled with this because I, I really dislike confrontation. Um, and so when I have to tell someone something like, "You didn't do this," or "I didn't like when you did this," I'm, I'm honestly like, "Okay, let me rehearse this. I don't know what the hell to do here." And so I find myself like really beating around the bush. So what I've been trying to work at is just saying what I wanna say, but that does, and in my mind, that equals being mean, but it, it doesn't. It's really just talking to someone with respect still, but loving yourself enough

• 45:26Lilly Singh?

  to say what actually bothered you. So I'm working on that still, but that's, that's an important one. "Say what you mean, don't say it mean."

• 45:31Jay Shetty?

  That's a great piece of advice. I think-

• 45:33Lilly Singh?

  Our, our common friend Humble is someone actually that, if you guys don't know Humble, a poet, he's super dope. But I feel like I communicate the best out of everyone in the world with Humble, because we speak in very straight lines and neither of us ever get offended. It's like, "I didn't like when you did this, please don't do it, X, Y, and Z." And he's like, "I understand, I will not." And it's like done and I'm like, "Wow, that's like really great. I just can't seem to do it with other people. I don't know what it is."

• 45:58Jay Shetty?

  Wow. Yeah. No, I, I think conflict resolution or like managing conflict or difficult situations is probably one of the skills that everyone avoids learning as well.

• 46:07Lilly Singh?

  No, a hundred percent.

• 46:08Jay Shetty?

  Because it's just so awkward or it can feel awkward and it's like my feelings and their feelings and everything. So I think that's a great piece of advice. I think a lot of people benefit from that.

• 46:16Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, I'm still working on it. It's a hard thing, but "Say what you mean, don't say it mean." I try to, I try to say that in my mind before every little bit of confrontation. Also, some things that I consider confrontation that really are not. I'm like, "It's okay if you want extra guac, they're not gonna care. Get the extra guac." I'm like, "I'm so, so, it's a Canadian, I'm so sorry. Do you mind putting, can I pay you to put extra guac? This makes no sense. Why do I think that's confrontation? I'm aware of."

• 46:40Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. No, I think, I think that's a thing that we all commonly share. I used to do this weird thing where I'd say something really like straight to someone and then I'd follow it up with somebody saying something really not.

• 46:48Lilly Singh?

  Oh no, LOL. Yeah, LOL has honestly destroyed my ability to confront people or emojis. Cause I'd be like, "I really didn't like when you did this, LOL." Where really I shouldn't be doing that. That's my like buffer. That's-

• 47:02Jay Shetty?

  Totally same. I used to do that all the time. I think I still do that sometimes. I say something that I really mean and then I'm like trying to, trying to cover it up.

• 47:09Lilly Singh?

  For me, it's like X, you know, X, the little kiss. There's like- So X, just wanna say X, there's like a whole bunch of them like, stop doing this. Just say what you want. Yeah, my sister is literally laughing at me right now because I've probably done this for multiple times.

• 47:23Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 47:24Lilly Singh?

  But I'm just so like, I don't know, I just am so scared of being mean.

• 47:27Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 47:28Lilly Singh?

  But I have to understand that it's not, it's, it's like, it's not saying what you mean with, it's possible to say without being mean.

• 47:33Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and it's beautiful when, like what you're saying about between you and humble, like, having a relationship where you can have that.

• 47:39Lilly Singh?

  Mm hmm.

• 47:40Jay Shetty?

  And I think I'd wanna encourage any, anyone listening to this with their friends, et cetera, like, build that relationship up where you can give each other regular feedback, right?

• 47:46Lilly Singh?

  Yes.

• 47:47Jay Shetty?

  Build that relationship where you can be honest with each other.

• 47:49Lilly Singh?

  Because wouldn't you want that? And like, I know all these things, but it's hard to put into practice, but wouldn't you want a friend that like, hey, no one else is telling you about this whack mother effing behavior you have, so let me, you know what I mean?

• 48:00Jay Shetty?

  Hundred percent.

• 48:01Lilly Singh?

  I feel like I would want that. And so it really makes no sense logically why I wouldn't do that for somebody, but I just, it's hard.

• 48:06Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. No, I definitely want that. And that's one of the questions I wanted to ask you, actually, is like, how have you managed to continue to, and you mentioned it earlier, but to continue to keep and build meaningful relationships as your success has grown, as your business has grown, like, how is that? How are you making a priority in that?

• 48:23Lilly Singh?

  Mm hmm.

• 48:23Jay Shetty?

  And how, and how hard is that?

• 48:26Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, it's easy answer, I don't.

• 48:27Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and it's hard, yeah.

• 48:28Lilly Singh?

  It's really difficult. I, you know, I always say, I, I think I gave a percentage earlier and now I'm changing it. Ninety-nine percent of my job is psychological, one percent is actual work. I always say that. Because once I started to get garner a certain level of success, my, you know, my Facebook inbox was full of so many old friends that are now really proud of me.

• 48:47Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 48:48Lilly Singh?

  And you know, and I'm sure you relate as well, it's a lot of your closest friends messaging you because they need something or they want something. And so I've had to really look at that and decide how I wanna perceive that. And for a long time, it was not positively, it was, I got a little bitter, I was like, oh, well, no, you're. You're not my friend. You're actually just someone that wants something, right?

• 49:07Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 49:08Lilly Singh?

  But I've had to adjust my mentality to now think, well, don't you want to be in the position to help people? You know, it's okay to love yourself enough to be like, hey, I have to respectfully say no because I I'm not able to do this. But just how I perceive it had to change from my own sanity. It had to change. So now I I try to think of things of like, well, why else would you want to have this success if you can't help all these people? You you should think of it like that. You should want to help these people. So see it as a positive. Don't see it as something that sucks your soul. I'll see it as a positive. And so I've had to really work on that. Trust is still a really hard thing. You know, people ask me all the time, when you meet someone new or like, how do you date? Doesn't it feel like people just want to talk to you because you're super? Sometimes, yes.

• 49:48Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 49:48Lilly Singh?

  Sometimes, yes, it's true. Someone will talk to me. And then very quickly make it transparent that it's because I'm superwoman, you know?

• 49:55Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 49:55Lilly Singh?

  Um, so it's been a it's been a delicate dance of figuring it all out. But I am just now choosing to live my life, believing and giving everyone the benefit of the doubt of being like, you know what? It's okay if you're talking to me because I'm superwoman, because I am proud of superwoman. I'm proud of Lily. I'm proud of what I've built and I should want to talk about it and it's fine. That's the only way and that might sound weird or unhealthy, but that's the only way to really live my life without being completely bitter all the time. And thinking negatively, you know?

• 50:25Jay Shetty?

  That is such a brilliant answer. That's amazing.

• 50:28Lilly Singh?

  I didn't know someone watching is gonna be like, girl, you stupid because you're gonna get used. And I know that, like, trust me. I'm well aware that there will be people that talk to me and have an ulterior motive, but but what's the alternative? To then not talk to no anyone?

• 50:42Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 50:42Lilly Singh?

  Or to not, you know what I mean? I'd rather just give people the benefit of the doubt.

• 50:45Jay Shetty?

  Well, I loved what you said specifically about the other option for you is to live in bitterness.

• 50:48Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 50:49Jay Shetty?

  Like it's just being bitter.

• 50:50Lilly Singh?

  Mm hmm.

• 50:50Jay Shetty?

  Like it's just being like, oh, everyone wants something for me, so I'm not gonna talk to anyone. And that option is so toxic for you.

• 50:57Lilly Singh?

  And I I did that. You know, I'm such an outgoing person. I've always been very extroverted. And I found myself last year suddenly not wanting to go to social settings as much, saying no to invites all the time because I felt just exhausted being around people.

• 51:11Jay Shetty?

  That's fair.

• 51:12Lilly Singh?

  You know, I was just like, no, everyone I go is gonna be bugging me about something. And so I changed my mentality to be like, And then so what? Go to these events, ask other people about their lives and let them ask you about your life. It's okay. It's only exhausting and soul sucking because you're defining it to be that way.

• 51:28Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 51:29Lilly Singh?

  Like this me being in the public eye is not changing. I can't reverse it. I can't stop it. You know, I could stop making videos today and still there's gonna be people coming up to me years from now being like, hey, I love you. You know what I mean? I can't reverse it. So I have to make an active choice to define it as something else.

• 51:45Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And I think protecting your energy is important. I do think that too.

• 51:50Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 51:50Jay Shetty?

  What you're saying is spot on. Like, no, I know you know this. I'm just throwing out for anyone who's listening is just like that protecting your energy is so important too.

• 51:58Lilly Singh?

  Right.

• 51:58Jay Shetty?

  Like not going everywhere. You think you have to be etc, which I know you already know.

• 52:02Lilly Singh?

  Right.

• 52:03Jay Shetty?

  That's, that's an important part of it too, because it can be exhausting to just turn up and have to be someone and all the rest of it.

• 52:10Lilly Singh?

  And then I've told myself, if you do have to go somewhere or if you wanna go somewhere, don't define it as being soul sucking. It's fine.

• 52:17Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 52:17Lilly Singh?

  And so I found myself when I go out to places now, I actually like just find people and really get into their stories.

• 52:23Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 52:23Lilly Singh?

  And I like leave with many more friends, mostly because I've like had like seven or fourteen drinks. But it's also because I like people and I wanna get to know them. So, you know.

• 52:34Jay Shetty?

  I love it. This is, this is, you're amazing. I, I love how when I'm listening to you, all I can think of is you're such an introspective soul.

• 52:41Lilly Singh?

  No.

• 52:42Jay Shetty?

  Like you're like, you've like literally like gone over things, which I think are really tough. And when I'm hearing you, the only energy I'm sensing from it is that it's real. Like it's, it's like you've just, yeah, it's, it's real work. It's amazing.

• 52:52Lilly Singh?

  It's definitely been a work in progress. I was not always like this. I did not, I was not always introspective like that. And I think that's the biggest silver lining of any heartache I've had in my life. People are always like, what are you most thankful for? And I'm like, ah, being depressed because literally it's given me so much silver lining of just how to, how to befriend my mind and how, why I think the way I think. I had to be in a really bad place to do those things. And so, yeah, I wasn't always like this, but I tried to make something out of bad times, I guess.

• 53:24Jay Shetty?

  It's amazing. Tell me, tell me, you said twenty nineteen was the year you wanted to take more risks.

• 53:29Lilly Singh?

  Mm hmm.

• 53:29Jay Shetty?

  Tell me what some of the risks could be.

• 53:30Lilly Singh?

  Yeah. When I said twenty nineteen was the year I wanna take more risks, I was talking creatively for sure. I want to.

• 53:36Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, not jumping off a building.

• 53:36Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not yet. We'll see. Um, but I wanted to create content that.

• 53:43Lilly Singh?

  You know, I think when you're a YouTube creator, you kind of get into this mentality of like, I know it works on YouTube. I know what kind of title, I know what kind of subject. My mind would be like, okay, let me do something with a boy, let me make it seem like a relationship, let me make the thumbnail this. There's a formula that works to get people to click a video. For me, that feels very safe because it's a tried, true and tested formula. I wanna do things where the thumbnail might not be enticing, the title might not be enticing, but it's a piece of content that I feel is really risky in terms of putting it on that platform because it might not get any views and that's okay. Yeah. The content I've been putting out this year so far, I'm super proud of. Yeah. I'm probably the person that has watched them the most, more than my fans, because I love them so much. Yeah. And that's what I meant by taking more risks. I also meant taking more risks in terms of business. Hmm.

• 54:26Lilly Singh?

  I lo- I think business is art. I am not trained formally in business. I have a psychology degree, like I said, so take that for what you will. But I own a business and I I wanna take more risks in terms of the, in terms of the production company I have, you know? Try to push stories that I know traditional Hollywood would be like, no, that's like, we're not putting that on a screen. That's the type of story I wanna push to create. I like it. You know, I've gotten notes like, a story about an immigrant girl from India is not relatable. I've gotten that, no, I walk into rooms with old white men, not that there's anything wrong with old white men, but I've walked into many rooms where I'm trying to tell a story and they're not understanding it. And so I wanna take risks and still push those stories, even though I know it's not

• 55:07Lilly Singh?

  the safe way to get a deal or have someone buy something, like I don't care. I wanna push those stories. And also in terms of like, being edgy business, in terms of like, requesting meetings with people that are like completely absurd. Yeah. You know, just a couple of days ago, I emailed my agency and I was like, I want a meeting with this person, make it happen. And then I just walked into this room with a gift for the person. I was like, you know who I am, you're gonna know who I am now. And you know, just kinda do those little risky, risky moves. I love those. Make waves, why not? Brilliant. Why not? I just believe, if you can't give up before you try, and even once you try and there's a no, like, figure it out. Absolutely. Make it happen.

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• 57:47Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely, and I love that you're taking those risks because I think I think everyone who watches those things eventually is gonna benefit from them. Like, anything that gets made will benefit from them.

• 57:55Lilly Singh?

  Right, exactly.

• 57:56Jay Shetty?

  And also just, I mean, I'm sure from your side, like what you were saying about you earlier, it's just more fun.

• 58:00Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 58:00Jay Shetty?

  Right? Like, to take more risks, to keep it exciting, to be nervous.

• 58:03Lilly Singh?

  It also helps me hustle harder because one of the biggest risks was my production company.

• 58:09Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 58:09Lilly Singh?

  I started it last year, it's only about nine months old, but a major financial investment. Like, I'll be super real with you, as someone, I'm super frugal. I'm very cheap. My sister knows, she's like, literally, I'm so cheap. But when I came to my company, I was like, I'm going to put so much money, I'm gonna put so much resource into this.

• 58:25Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 58:26Lilly Singh?

  And that's a huge risk.

• 58:27Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 58:27Lilly Singh?

  But because of that, I'm like, on my toes now, being like, what are we gonna do to make this work? We need to work really hard, and that's what makes it exciting, right?

• 58:37Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely. I wanna, I don't know if you've heard about this thing called flow state?

• 58:41Lilly Singh?

  No.

• 58:41Jay Shetty?

  No, so when I'm hearing you, it sounds like you enjoy flow state, and I think you've probably experienced it multiple times. So flow state is when your challenge matches your skill. So your challenge level matches your skill. So when your challenge is below your skill, you get bored.

• 58:57Lilly Singh?

  Mm-hmm.

• 58:58Jay Shetty?

  Because you're more skilled and your challenge is low. And then when your challenge is above your skill, you get frustrated because your challenge is so high and your skill level is low.

• 59:04Lilly Singh?

  Right.

• 59:05Jay Shetty?

  And so if you're constantly upping your skill and upping your challenge, you keep experiencing flow state, which is like where you feel like in the zone.

• 59:11Lilly Singh?

  Right.

• 59:11Jay Shetty?

  Moving, like, things are happening, like, you have breakthrough moments, right? And so when I'm hearing you speak-

• 59:17Lilly Singh?

  That sounds so smart. That's, yeah, cool. Yeah, that's what I do.

• 59:19Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 59:19Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, that's, wow, yeah.

• 59:21Jay Shetty?

  Where did you get, where did you get, where did the mindset of hustle harder come from into your life? Like, where did that even come from?

• 59:30Lilly Singh?

  I think innately, it's because of my parents. You know, my parents are immigrants from India. My dad, the story my dad has told me many a time was, like, he came to Canada, had two jobs, worked the night shift. You know, my parents had to work so hard to provide for me. They did a fabulous job for me and my sister. We had a great upbringing because of that. So I think innately, I have that immigrant hustle in me. But I think otherwise, any job I've had growing up, and I honestly don't even know why. My first job was fast food, and I remember even at that job, someone came up to me and they were like, "You like work really hard." I think I was like refilling the forks, like relentlessly. I was like, refill the forks. And they were like, I keep hitting this mic.

• 1:00:09Jay Shetty?

  That's cool, that's cool.

• 1:00:10Lilly Singh?

  They're like, "You're fired." It's just something about not, I I feel like if I'm not being productive, I'm not taking advantage of everything I've been given. You know what I mean? I don't want to waste all the resources and opportunities I've been given. I think that's where it comes from.

• 1:00:23Jay Shetty?

  Wow.

• 1:00:24Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:24Jay Shetty?

  I love that.

• 1:00:25Lilly Singh?

  I can't be in my house in L A in this wonderful life with these wonderful people around me and then be like, all right, we'll just chill. Like, no, like, I need to do something with it, or else what what did I work hard for? And also then what did my parents work hard for? And then why for what? I need to, no, I need to give it, yeah, purpose.

• 1:00:45Jay Shetty?

  Purpose and meaning and and and.

• 1:00:48Lilly Singh?

  And I want my dog to have a better life, you know? Like, honestly, when I'm working really hard, I'm like, I want to work hard so that you can have whatever car you want and whatever house you want.

• 1:00:59Jay Shetty?

  And dog stuff is expensive in this place. I've looked.

• 1:01:02Lilly Singh?

  Oh, no, a hundred percent.

• 1:01:03Jay Shetty?

  Dog hotels.

• 1:01:04Lilly Singh?

  Oh, no. Anytime I go to the dog store, they're always trying to get me on that organic raw. I'm like, stop, stop trying to make the raw food a thing. Fetch is not going to be a thing. Stop. No, it's just true. No, but really, it's just because I want my dog to have a better life.

• 1:01:17Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:17Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:18Jay Shetty?

  It's the most meaningful thing.

• 1:01:19Lilly Singh?

  I think he can be whatever he wants when he grows up, and I want him to know that.

• 1:01:21Jay Shetty?

  So do I.

• 1:01:22Lilly Singh?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:01:22Jay Shetty?

  Am I gonna get to see Scarborough today?

• 1:01:23Lilly Singh?

  Yeah. Oh, no, he's not at the office. I didn't think he should be there for the meditation, because he'd be like biting your leg.

• 1:01:29Jay Shetty?

  True, true, true. Oh, yeah, I'd love to see him again. He's super cute.

• 1:01:32Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:01:33Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, that that story you put up recently of of him taking all your pictures instead of you.

• 1:01:38Lilly Singh?

  Yes, yes.

• 1:01:39Jay Shetty?

  Very funny.

• 1:01:40Lilly Singh?

  This is the podcast about my dog. You should all follow him.

• 1:01:43Jay Shetty?

  About The Rock and your dog. That's what this podcast is about.

• 1:01:46Lilly Singh?

  These are my priorities.

• 1:01:48Jay Shetty?

  I love it. I want to ask you about this because I think you've just been, even in this whole conversation, been super honest, super reflective. What what's been your biggest failure? Like, what's been the thing that went wrong for you or or at least felt like it was going wrong for you?

• 1:02:04Lilly Singh?

  Um.

• 1:02:05Jay Shetty?

  If there has been, maybe there hasn't.

• 1:02:06Lilly Singh?

  I I have two. I have a professional one and a personal one. I think my biggest failure professionally has been. Subscribing to a system and putting that above making art that I believe. I can honestly say that. When I first started making YouTube videos, I was very proud of everything and I enjoyed it. And then I got a lot of success and a lot of views. And YouTube became even bigger. When I first started YouTube, I couldn't name every creator. And I was, I could say like, I know you. Now there's so many creators, there's so much content. So I told myself that, no, you need to just do whatever it takes to make sure that the algorithm likes you and people watch your videos. So I was very much so writing a script very quickly and shooting a video. And I think professionally, that was a failure.

• 1:02:51Lilly Singh?

  Because I think that my audience could probably see that. And I put quality above quantity. I mean, sorry, I put quantity above quality. And I think that was a professional fail, for sure. Um, personally, for sure, without a doubt. My biggest personal fail is that during this journey of Superwoman and this career, I have placed very little importance on my self-care, for sure. And people would be shocked to know that because in my vlogs, I'm like very happy and very energetic. And that's not a front.

• 1:03:22Jay Shetty?

  No.

• 1:03:23Lilly Singh?

  I, I am that way. But, you know, some days when I am down or tired, would I then feel obligated to like be that person? Yes. Would I place work over priorities, like relationships with friends? For sure. Um, I've been single for my whole life. So, I mean, you know, so I think there was definitely moments where I convinced myself that the only success that matters is professional success. Whereas, no, doing things that mean a lot to you personally, that is also success. And I had to redefine what success means to me. Because it did truly only mean professionalism.

• 1:04:01Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:02Lilly Singh?

  Until recently.

• 1:04:03Jay Shetty?

  Well, the best thing is that both of those things you're talking about, you're working on both.

• 1:04:05Lilly Singh?

  I am, I'm actively working on them, yes. And I had to really evaluate that.

• 1:04:09Jay Shetty?

  And you called them out to everyone, like you've actually.

• 1:04:11Lilly Singh?

  Yeah. You know, every year, what I do at the end of every year. Not only for myself, but also I have a year end review video. So I'm forced to go through all of my achievements. And I noticed at the end of 2018, I had so many personal achievements I had made. But professionally, it was like a little bit less than previous years. I remember looking at the list and being like, what a bad year. Like, I felt like I didn't have a successful year. Then I had to check myself and be like, um, actually, personally, you had the most successful year. You're just not defining success that way, you know, which was a huge issue.

• 1:04:44Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, amazing. Yeah, anyone listening, make sure you define your own version of success.

• 1:04:48Lilly Singh?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:04:49Jay Shetty?

  And it's so easy to get carried away when things are working.

• 1:04:51Lilly Singh?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:04:52Jay Shetty?

  And things are happening. And then just forget what's important.

• 1:04:54Lilly Singh?

  Exactly.

• 1:04:55Jay Shetty?

  It's beautiful to see you do it.

• 1:04:56Lilly Singh?

  Thanks.

• 1:04:56Jay Shetty?

  It's amazing.

• 1:04:57Lilly Singh?

  I'll keep you posted.

• 1:04:58Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, you better. You better. I want weekly updates.

• 1:05:01Lilly Singh?

  I will, don't worry. Anytime. I'm, you know what? Honestly, now that we're like good, good friends, I'm gonna text you all the time like, Jay, I have this problem. Can you help me?

• 1:05:08Jay Shetty?

  I'm always, yeah, like.

• 1:05:10Lilly Singh?

  But I have to say, Jay is so sweet. When I went on my break, he sent me the most lovely text. And it wasn't even like, proud of you, fluffy fluffy. It was like substance and like a text from someone that genuinely thought about the text and cared about what they were saying. And I really felt that. I was like, this person's not just texting me for a connection or for a network or like because they think they have to. They actually care about what they're saying and they care about the outcome of this. And that's what Jay was. And truly, that was like blown away by that. So thank you.

• 1:05:41Jay Shetty?

  I, I thought a lot about that text.

• 1:05:42Lilly Singh?

  I know. It was like so well formatted. It was spelled well. It was, it was great.

• 1:05:48Jay Shetty?

  Maybe not that stuff, I know.

• 1:05:49Lilly Singh?

  I know, I know.

• 1:05:50Jay Shetty?

  I just, no, because I just, I really respected you for it and on a genuine level, like, I was just like, wow. I genuinely respected you for it. And I, and I was just like, I never wanted, I just, I didn't wanna belittle what you had done. And at the same time, I just, yeah, I just, it was from the heart. It was from the heart.

• 1:06:05Lilly Singh?

  And I could tell, I appreciate that.

• 1:06:06Jay Shetty?

  And I'm glad it felt that way.

• 1:06:07Lilly Singh?

  Yes, it did.

• 1:06:08Jay Shetty?

  That's always like my worst, and that's one of the things I worry about. And I don't know how much you have, but I definitely worry about in this space. I'm like, when I reach out to someone, I only reach out to people I really want to connect with. And so the last thing I want them to do is get a wrong impression from me. That I'm reaching out to them for the wrong thing. And I genuinely have that as an insecurity, as a, as a questioning of like, I don't want them to feel that way.

• 1:06:31Lilly Singh?

  Right.

• 1:06:31Jay Shetty?

  And, but I also want them to know me for who I am. I don't want them to like me because of the way I portray myself.

• 1:06:36Lilly Singh?

  Right, right, right.

• 1:06:37Jay Shetty?

  So.

• 1:06:38Lilly Singh?

  Hear that loud and clear and I think nothing but genuine, I see nothing but genuineness from you.

• 1:06:42Jay Shetty?

  Feelings mutual.

• 1:06:43Lilly Singh?

  Thanks.

• 1:06:43Jay Shetty?

  When we, when we collaborated together over Christmas, I had so much fun.

• 1:06:46Lilly Singh?

  So did I.

• 1:06:46Jay Shetty?

  And I was just like this, that was, that was, I was like, it was so nice because so many of people that I know back in London and I went back for Christmas. And they were just like, oh, we saw the video, we did Lily and like, obviously they're huge fans of yours. And, and they were just like, what's she like? And I was like, she's amazing. You know, it was just so nice to be able to say that after having spent time with someone.

• 1:07:04Lilly Singh?

  I love that. I feel like the number one question people ask everyone else.

• 1:07:07Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:07Lilly Singh?

  It was like, what does she like in real life? And I kind of want people to like, tell weird lies about me. I kind of want someone to be like, she has a tail.

• 1:07:15Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:15Lilly Singh?

  You know what I mean?

• 1:07:16Jay Shetty?

  She has a tail.

• 1:07:17Lilly Singh?

  Like, I really am into that.

• 1:07:19Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Okay. So next time, I should do that.

• 1:07:21Lilly Singh?

  Say something weird.

• 1:07:22Jay Shetty?

  Say something weird.

• 1:07:22Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, say something weird about me.

• 1:07:24Jay Shetty?

  Like, she's, she's not really Punjabi?

• 1:07:26Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:27Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:27Lilly Singh?

  Or like her hair is fake.

• 1:07:28Jay Shetty?

  Her hair is fake?

• 1:07:28Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, that'd be a good one.

• 1:07:30Jay Shetty?

  Yeah? What else? Tell me some more.

• 1:07:31Lilly Singh?

  Um, abducted.

• 1:07:33Jay Shetty?

  Abducted?

• 1:07:33Lilly Singh?

  Abducted, yeah.

• 1:07:34Jay Shetty?

  Yeah?

• 1:07:34Lilly Singh?

  Yeah. Um, you could say, she's actually married to Scarborough.

• 1:07:40Jay Shetty?

  She's actually married to Scarborough. That's a good one. I like that one. We can get pictures made too.

• 1:07:44Lilly Singh?

  Oh, we have them. I'm kidding.

• 1:07:48Jay Shetty?

  I love that. I love that. Awesome. We, uh, I want to ask you, I always ask this to my guests because I, I think it's important. I want to, actually, no, before we do that, I want to talk about your production company.

• 1:07:57Lilly Singh?

  Do it.

• 1:07:57Jay Shetty?

  I want to talk about some of the ideas that you've been coming up with. Because Polly, who also was part of introducing us and head of development, of course, but Polly's wonderful, by the way.

• 1:08:05Lilly Singh?

  She's great.

• 1:08:06Jay Shetty?

  She's, she's so sweet.

• 1:08:07Lilly Singh?

  So lovely.

• 1:08:08Jay Shetty?

  Like, yeah, I've, I've enjoyed all the time I've spent with her briefly too, but she's the head of development. She's told me about some of the cool ideas. Whatever you can share.

• 1:08:16Lilly Singh?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:16Jay Shetty?

  I'd love to know. Like, I don't want to, yeah.

• 1:08:18Lilly Singh?

  No, for sure, for sure. Um, we, I'll give you like the top line of a few things.

• 1:08:22Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:23Lilly Singh?

  Um, we are working on a arranged marriage thriller.

• 1:08:27Jay Shetty?

  I loved it. When she told me that, I was like.

• 1:08:29Lilly Singh?

  Which I'm very excited about because an arranged marriage, it's the perfect environment for just a lot of cool freaky stuff to happen.

• 1:08:37Jay Shetty?

  Hundred percent.

• 1:08:37Lilly Singh?

  And I feel like so often we see movies that are only one type of relationship, but. Honestly, the percentage of arranged marriages in the world is very high. It's not only Indian people, it's many cultures across the world. So that's an example of like making stories that people can relate to and be like, oh, this is like another perspective we haven't seen. So I'm really excited about that one.

• 1:08:54Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I love that.

• 1:08:55Lilly Singh?

  Um, we also are working on a few animated projects. So I'm working on a kids animation based off Unicorn Island, which is this fantastical world in my mind. And again, I want it to be very like female voices, diverse cast, it's gonna be animated, so I might voice one of the the characters, we'll see.

• 1:09:09Jay Shetty?

  Amazing.

• 1:09:09Lilly Singh?

  Excited about that. And I'll tell you about one more, we are working on um, a, it's another animation, adult animation, and it is about a feminist woman who agrees to get her parents to introduce her to a guy to get married. So she goes this very traditional route, and she's in this environment where she's super feminist, but has to like address all these like cultural things that are coming her way. And so she's kind of on on the edge of like what what she should do. So it's super cool. That's me trying to tell you without telling you.

• 1:09:36Jay Shetty?

  No, no, I know, I know.

• 1:09:37Lilly Singh?

  And then she does, but I can't say that. So it's it's gonna be good.

• 1:09:41Jay Shetty?

  No, I love the ideas and I wanted you to share them just because I I love how much you're A, injecting parts of your own culture into the work and looking at it through a completely different lens. Like when I first heard the idea of the arranged marriage thriller, I was just like, that is so cool.

• 1:09:55Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:55Jay Shetty?

  Like, it's such a great idea. And I loved it.

• 1:09:57Lilly Singh?

  I also, something I'm really passionate about, which I don't know what we want to do with this yet, but there's this really cool book called Once Upon a Time, Once Upon a Story That Never Happened. Uh, don't quote me on the title, but essentially it's about, so it's a kids book. It's a kids animated book, and it's about a princess trapped in a tower. But she doesn't want a prince to save her, she wants a princess to save her.

• 1:10:18Jay Shetty?

  Oh.

• 1:10:19Lilly Singh?

  And so I posted about this, of course, tons of backlash about this, but it's essentially a story that's not so, and why I think it's beautiful, it's not so about like, let's discuss sexuality and all, it's just a princess trapped in a tower.

• 1:10:31Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:31Lilly Singh?

  And she just describes a princess she wants to save her.

• 1:10:33Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:34Lilly Singh?

  You know, and it's really fun because the dwarf at the end is like, yeah, I get it. Well, I live with like twelve guys, so like, I get it. So it's like a really fun story, but I think those are the types of like risk-taking, boundary-pushing stories I want to tell. Because I think it's so important for people to grow up seeing people like them.

• 1:10:49Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:49Lilly Singh?

  You know, I didn't grow up seeing things like that. The only reference I have of people that looked like me was Bollywood movies.

• 1:10:56Jay Shetty?

  Yes, absolutely.

• 1:10:57Lilly Singh?

  You know what I mean? And so I think it's important for people to, there's something really nice. And that's the one thing I like with, not the one thing, one of the main things I like with the entertainment industry is that they tell stories that make people feel like they're not alone. That's the best way, when you're watching a movie or reading a book and you're like, Whoa, like, there's this person that is like, like, I suddenly feel a hundred times better about my life. I think that's the the magic of story.

• 1:11:18Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:18Lilly Singh?

  And so it just makes no sense and it's counterintuitive to me that so many people in power think they can decide which stories should be told and not told. It just makes no sense to me because our job is to tell stories that relate to people.

• 1:11:30Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely. And then it's not all, it's not just diversity, but it's representation, right? It's like that feeling of representing, representing the reality of the world.

• 1:11:41Lilly Singh?

  Exactly, that's what that's all.

• 1:11:42Jay Shetty?

  That's what it is, right?

• 1:11:42Lilly Singh?

  It's like anytime I get a note about something, I'm like, this is what the world looks like.

• 1:11:47Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:47Lilly Singh?

  Like, we're no longer living this sheltered, like, what you think, oh, this is literally what the world looks like. And that's what should be represented on TV.

• 1:11:54Jay Shetty?

  Hundred percent.

• 1:11:55Lilly Singh?

  You know what I mean?

• 1:11:55Jay Shetty?

  Hundred percent, yeah, absolutely. How much do you miss Toronto?

• 1:11:59Lilly Singh?

  I don't miss the weather at all. Uh, my mom, I FaceTimed her yesterday, she said it's minus thirty degrees Celsius.

• 1:12:05Jay Shetty?

  Celsius?

• 1:12:06Lilly Singh?

  Mm-hmm. So it is.

• 1:12:07Jay Shetty?

  Oh, yeah, you do Celsius.

• 1:12:08Lilly Singh?

  I do Celsius, yeah, yeah. So it's really, really cold. Um, obviously, you know, my friends and family are there, so I miss it a lot in terms of the, some of the strong relationships I have, but if I'm really honest, I was too in my comfort zone in Toronto. Moving to L A was me stepping out of my comfort zone and really challenged me to get to the places I am at now.

• 1:12:30Jay Shetty?

  Amazing.

• 1:12:31Lilly Singh?

  You know? I could have stayed in Toronto and I would have been a big fish in a small pond, probably, and I hope, I, I hope that doesn't come off the wrong way, but I really had to, like, thrust myself in a scenario where I was like, ah! Oh, but today I moved to L A, I was freaking out.

• 1:12:45Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:45Lilly Singh?

  I had, like, literally an anxiety attack and had to pull over on the side of the road, truly. Because I moved here, I didn't really know anyone. I remember I went to Ralph's to buy, to buy, like, uh, I don't know, like, a bottle of wine or something, and then they didn't accept my Canadian ID. And I was like, what have I done, truly? So, like, there was just so many things that I didn't know. Um, and it was really, really scary. And so now I always think about that, like, that's from Toronto to L A. Imagine India to Toronto, my parents, you know?

• 1:13:15Jay Shetty?

  I know.

• 1:13:16Lilly Singh?

  But it was very scary, and especially because, like, Soon as I landed here, I was like, auditions, meetings, all this, and I'm not from this world. Like, I had to learn it all. I had to sit in meetings and nod and like, kind of like fake it till you make it mentality. And so it was a lot of that, you know?

• 1:13:29Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. You've been on such a steep learning curve.

• 1:13:31Lilly Singh?

  Uh, truly. I've been in some situations where I'm like, I'm gonna have to learn a lot of things very fast, very, very fast.

• 1:13:36Jay Shetty?

  Exactly. But you have, like, that's the incredible thing.

• 1:13:38Lilly Singh?

  Here and there.

• 1:13:39Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, like, no, but you have, like, you've, you've learned how to set up a business. You've learned how to, even now, even just now, like, take care of yourself.

• 1:13:46Lilly Singh?

  I don't know. My company always asks about like, my employees joke around like, do we have an HR department? I'm like, shut up.

• 1:13:53Jay Shetty?

  Do we have an HR department?

• 1:13:55Lilly Singh?

  No, I'm definitely learning and it's super stressful. I don't know if you can relate, but

• 1:13:59Jay Shetty?

  I can.

• 1:14:00Lilly Singh?

  When you're running a business, it's like a whole thing. It's a whole thing. And there's so many times where I'm like, oh my God, I'm not equipped to do any of this stuff. And I think one of the lessons I've learned is the smartest thing you can do is be the dumbest person in the room.

• 1:14:15Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:15Lilly Singh?

  So I make sure that when I hire people on my team, I'm like, you are all better than me at the thing you do, you know? So that makes me really smart because I chose you to be here. So I can make sure I have really good lawyers. Because back in the day, my mentality was like, I will learn to edit very well. And I will learn how to do my taxes. Lie, I'll never learn.

• 1:14:33Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:33Lilly Singh?

  But I will hire very smart people to do those things so that I'm the dumbest person in the room.

• 1:14:38Jay Shetty?

  Hundred percent. Yeah. Steve Jobs used to say, we don't hire smart people to tell them what to do. We hire smart people so they can tell us what to do.

• 1:14:45Lilly Singh?

  Yes, exactly.

• 1:14:45Jay Shetty?

  And it's like, I, I completely agree. And I think everyone should, when they can, and when you have the ability as an entrepreneur, to outsource the areas that you don't have an expertise in.

• 1:14:55Lilly Singh?

  Which was, which was also a huge struggle for me because as a creator online, people kind of guilt you for doing that.

• 1:15:01Jay Shetty?

  Totally.

• 1:15:02Lilly Singh?

  A big hurdle for me was when I, I had to like hide the fact that I had an editor for so long. And I could openly, honestly say that, that I was like, no, I have to make it seem like I'm doing everything still. Because when I started, yes, I was doing everything.

• 1:15:14Jay Shetty?

  Of course.

• 1:15:14Lilly Singh?

  I was editing, I was shooting, I was writing, but. Then I got to a point where I could and I was fortunate enough to outsource so that I could have more time to be more creative and do other things.

• 1:15:22Jay Shetty?

  Hundred percent.

• 1:15:23Lilly Singh?

  But I was made to feel so guilty about that. You know, and I think a lot of creators relate to this idea of you have to put out this facade, like you do everything, but you don't.

• 1:15:30Jay Shetty?

  No.

• 1:15:30Lilly Singh?

  Wouldn't you want? What I want for everyone else is for them to grow. And I I genuinely believe people should want that for each, they should want that for each other. I want you to go to a place where you can have a team and and and be mentally stable and good. And so I was like, it doesn't matter if people are mad that I have an editor, I have an editor because he's better than me.

• 1:15:48Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:15:50Lilly Singh?

  You know?

• 1:15:50Jay Shetty?

  It used to take me twenty five hours to edit a five minute video.

• 1:15:53Lilly Singh?

  Oh, no, one hundred percent.

• 1:15:54Jay Shetty?

  Like, I I because I, same with me, no film background, no media background, I had to teach myself. It was just so long and I did it for a long, long time. And then when I could finally had it, I was so happy.

• 1:16:04Lilly Singh?

  It was like six years of me.

• 1:16:05Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:05Lilly Singh?

  Shooting my, all my videos myself, editing all myself. And they looked like trash. So everyone should be very happy that I don't do it anymore.

• 1:16:12Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely. Yeah, I love it. Is there anything we haven't talked about that you're like, Jay, I wish you asked me about this? I wish we talked about this because I'm happy to go there now.

• 1:16:21Lilly Singh?

  You were pretty thorough, to be honest. Um.

• 1:16:24Jay Shetty?

  No, but I'm happy to, as in if I missed stuff, I wanna know.

• 1:16:26Lilly Singh?

  No, I don't think so.

• 1:16:26Jay Shetty?

  This is me telling you, you can tell me, Jay.

• 1:16:28Lilly Singh?

  I appreciate that. No, I I definitely would, but I don't think so.

• 1:16:30Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:31Lilly Singh?

  Hmm.

• 1:16:31Jay Shetty?

  How fun was it designing your merch?

• 1:16:34Lilly Singh?

  My merch was very fun to design.

• 1:16:36Jay Shetty?

  I've seen it everywhere.

• 1:16:37Lilly Singh?

  But I will say.

• 1:16:38Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:39Lilly Singh?

  For someone that's as big as a control freak as me, I have this bad habit of wanting very nice things, but for very cheap. I have this thing in my heart and I swear to God, I'm not just saying this because it sounds good, I'm genuinely meaning this. I really don't want my merch to be expensive. Because I know what it feels like to be a young kid bugging your parents to buy you something and it being, and they're being like, shut up, you're not getting this sweater for eighty dollars, get the F out of here. So that's something I'm struggling with. I'm struggling with, I want my stuff to look really cool.

• 1:17:10Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:10Lilly Singh?

  But I don't want it to be expensive.

• 1:17:12Jay Shetty?

  Hmm.

• 1:17:12Lilly Singh?

  That doesn't exist right now.

• 1:17:14Jay Shetty?

  I don't think that exists anyway.

• 1:17:16Lilly Singh?

  So it's a lot of fun, but there's still a lot of work to be done in that regard.

• 1:17:20Jay Shetty?

  Because that's the hardest bit, right? When you buy something and it was cheap, but then in the first wash it goes bad or bubbles up. And then it's like, then you have a bad taste because of that.

• 1:17:28Lilly Singh?

  Because if I'm, I'll, I'll be honest, some things I do, some things I do because I like it. And also because it's like, this is a smart business opportunity. That's not how I view merch. I'm fortunate enough to have a lot of other revenue streams where I've from merch, just like a fun thing for me to do. That's exciting. And I know for my fans, it's exciting as well. So it's not, it's truly not my priority to like make a lot of money off merch.

• 1:17:52Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:52Lilly Singh?

  You know? If I'm really honest, I'd rather make money off a tour where I can actually meet my fans. That makes more sense to me.

• 1:17:59Jay Shetty?

  Sure.

• 1:17:59Lilly Singh?

  It's not about, it's not like a very big business, financial endeavor that I'm trying to go on. And I know I'm gonna say this, people are like, shut the F up, you're running some merch. Take it for what you will, but I'm being super honest that the most frequent email I get is like, you're gonna make zero dollars on your merch. Just want you to know that you're a horrible business person. Never play, I'm like, but it's so cute and I love it, my poor fans. And I also like send a lot of the stuff to like India and that's like literally send something to India and it was like, uh, nine hundred dollars to send there and I was like, this is fine. So, you know.

• 1:18:30Jay Shetty?

  I love it. And Lily did not pay me to ask for merch, just putting it, pay me to talk about merch, sorry.

• 1:18:34Lilly Singh?

  He did not.

• 1:18:34Jay Shetty?

  I, I asked.

• 1:18:35Lilly Singh?

  But I'll give you some later today.

• 1:18:36Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I asked because I, I missed your pop up when you had it here, I was traveling. So that's why I asked, because I knew it looked fun.

• 1:18:43Lilly Singh?

  Thank you.

• 1:18:43Jay Shetty?

  And, and I was sad that I missed that.

• 1:18:45Lilly Singh?

  But see, that's the thing, like I had a pop up in LA, it was fun, but what I really wanna do is like a pop up in like India. You know? But then again, my merch company's gonna be like, oh, so are you gonna pay for these nine million boxes to go to India? Because we ain't gonna pay for it. So then I run into issues like that. See, this is, this is why I need someone telling me what to do.

• 1:19:03Jay Shetty?

  I love it. No, but I, I think that's part of it. I genuinely think that part of it is going with your intuition, doing what makes you happy, doing what's like meaningful to you. And like you said, like you're smart enough to know where you can take risks and make mistakes and give more.

• 1:19:17Lilly Singh?

  Sometimes, we'll see. We'll see.

• 1:19:21Jay Shetty?

  I love it. All right. So we end, we end every interview with my final five, which are like my final fast five questions.

• 1:19:26Lilly Singh?

  Okay.

• 1:19:26Jay Shetty?

  That I'm gonna ask you. Yeah, speed round.

• 1:19:28Lilly Singh?

  Okay, cool.

• 1:19:28Jay Shetty?

  So one to three words maximum.

• 1:19:31Lilly Singh?

  One to three, okay, cool.

• 1:19:32Jay Shetty?

  Right? Okay. So what's the hardest thing about being Lilly Singh?

• 1:19:38Lilly Singh?

  Balance.

• 1:19:39Jay Shetty?

  Nice. Second question, the best thing about being Lilly Singh.

• 1:19:42Lilly Singh?

  Hair.

• 1:19:45Jay Shetty?

  Okay, question number three, the worst advice you've ever received.

• 1:19:49Lilly Singh?

  Max three words?

• 1:19:51Jay Shetty?

  No, no, this can be longer.

• 1:19:52Lilly Singh?

  If you wanted to, you could be a diva.

• 1:19:54Jay Shetty?

  Ah, wow, okay. Fourth, uh, fourth question, best advice you've ever received.

• 1:19:59Lilly Singh?

  No one's gonna take care of you like you can take care of you. That's three words, yeah, okay, cool.

• 1:20:03Jay Shetty?

  No, no, that can be longer.

• 1:20:05Lilly Singh?

  That was with the rock just saying.

• 1:20:06Jay Shetty?

  And the fifth question, uh, one word to three words or a sentence, seeing as you're so good with words, to describe how you feel right now.

• 1:20:17Lilly Singh?

  Peaceful. That's need one word. You make, you have a peaceful energy. You make me feel at peace.

• 1:20:23Jay Shetty?

  Good, I'm glad.

• 1:20:24Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, and I feel like I'm in a safe space. That's why I feel peaceful.

• 1:20:28Jay Shetty?

  Thank you. Thank you, Lily.

• 1:20:30Lilly Singh?

  Look at his voice, how could you not? You should do ASMR. Have you ever done it? You should do it. We should talk about this.

• 1:20:33Jay Shetty?

  Okay, we should talk about it. No, I was just gonna say, thank you for being so honest, so raw, so vulnerable. Just, it's, it's amazing to see someone who's as successful as you are, as able as you are, as talented as you are, to just hear you be, you know, and it's, it's amazing. Like, I, I just, I love it and I hope that you carry on doing it and...

• 1:20:53Lilly Singh?

  If I don't, can you text me and call me out on it? Cause that's what I really need.

• 1:20:56Jay Shetty?

  If you really want me to do it.

• 1:20:57Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, I really do.

• 1:20:58Jay Shetty?

  That I will.

• 1:20:58Lilly Singh?

  I really do.

• 1:20:59Jay Shetty?

  And I want you to do the same back for me, but, but no, I, I want, I just, yeah, I'm so glad that we're building our friendship and relationship.

• 1:21:06Lilly Singh?

  For sure.

• 1:21:07Jay Shetty?

  And I'm grateful that.

• 1:21:08Lilly Singh?

  I will be, do whatever you need me to do, more of these, more of these, whatever. I had such a great time and I'm honored to be here speaking with you.

• 1:21:14Jay Shetty?

  Oh, thank you. I've got lots of ideas for us to do stuff.

• 1:21:16Lilly Singh?

  Yes, let's do it. I'm into it.

• 1:21:17Jay Shetty?

  That's not going away, but genuinely, thank you so much. You're amazing.

• 1:21:21Lilly Singh?

  Thank you for having me.

• 1:21:21Jay Shetty?

  I love, I love all the tips and lessons you gave today. I'm gonna listen back to this for everyone watching and listening and share Lily's top three tips so that you get those as well.

• 1:21:29Lilly Singh?

  And any team super members that are here, make sure you support Jay in everything he does. He's a phenomenal human being, certified unicorn.

• 1:21:36Jay Shetty?

  I love that. Can I get a badge?

• 1:21:38Lilly Singh?

  Yes, actually, yes, you can. I'll work on that.

• 1:21:41Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Badge, certified unicorn, it's so cool.

• 1:21:43Lilly Singh?

  Certified, see? Certified Unicorn Badge. It's going on my to-do list.

• 1:21:46Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, certified unicorn, my CUV.

• 1:21:48Lilly Singh?

  Like a little old school, a little old school, like.

• 1:21:50Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, or like stitch on, like.

• 1:21:52Lilly Singh?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:21:53Jay Shetty?

  I don't know, it could look cool. I don't know, maybe.

• 1:21:55Lilly Singh?

  Okay.

• 1:21:55Jay Shetty?

  Maybe a ring.

• 1:21:56Lilly Singh?

  Okay, write that down.

• 1:21:58Jay Shetty?

  I love it, but thank you so much Lily. You're amazing. You're incredible, incredible guest and even better friend. And yeah, thank you and all the best for 2019. I hope it's gonna be a year of growth for you and your team. I hope it's gonna be amazing for all of your audience who gets to be a part of your journey. I'm just sending you the best wishes, prayers and vibes that I possibly can.

• 1:22:17Lilly Singh?

  Same to you. Thank you so much. And thanks to all of you. Bye.

• 1:22:20Jay Shetty?

  Bye, guys.

• 1:22:28Jay Shetty?

  Thank you so much for listening through to the end of that episode. I hope you're gonna share this all across social media. Let people know that you're subscribed to On Purpose. Let me know, post it. Tell me what a difference it's making in your life. I would love to see your thoughts. I can't wait for this incredibly conscious community we're creating of purposeful people. You're now a part of the tribe, a part of the squad. Thank you for being here. I can't wait to share the next episode with you.

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