Kendall Jenner ON: Setting Boundaries to Increase Happiness & Healing Your Inner Child

You can order my new book 8 RULES OF LOVE at 8rulesoflove.com or at a retail store near you. You can also get the chance to see me live on my first ever world tour. This is a 90 minute interactive show where I will take you on a journey of finding, keeping and even letting go of love. Head to jayshettytour.com and find out if I'll be in a city near you. Thank you so much for all your support - I hope to see you soon. Today, I sit down with the one and only Kendall Jenner. Kendall is a successful business founder, international supermodel, founder of the incredibly successful tequila brand, 818, and star on the Hulu’s, the Kardashians, which premieres in its second season on September 22nd. Kendal shows us a different side of her as she shares how her curiosity for people with brilliant minds and doing so much to give back to the world has eventually led to this interview. Behind the glamor and spotlight, she especially enjoys having some time alone with herself, and she values the importance of setting boundaries and why we should do things that lead to genuine happiness. We talk about her childhood and her love for animals, how the simple things give her the most joys, getting through grief after losing a dear friend, and finding the heart to be more kind to your inner child. Kendall remains grounded and in tune with her inner goddess and is not allowing negativity and ill intentions change who she is, who she may become, and the purpose she is living by. What We Discuss: 00:00:00 Intro 00:00:26 “I think I manifested this interview…” 00:09:53 “I grew up in a horse community.” 00:15:42 Craving the simple things 00:18:51 Setting boundaries for yourself 00:21:46 Putting yourself first 00:27:15 It’s important to be happy 00:28:51 Reassuring yourself of who you really are 00:33:06 Sometimes, family can be overwhelming 00:35:54 Losing a dear friend 00:40:53 Finding a new purpose 00:45:38 Stop being mean to your inner child 00:50:24 Kendall on Final Five Episode Resources Kendall Jenner | Instagram Kendall Jenner | Twitter Kendall Jenner | Facebook Do you want to meditate daily with me? Go to go.calm.com/onpurpose to get 40% off a Calm Premium Membership. Experience the Daily Jay. Only on Calm Want to be a Jay Shetty Certified Life Coach? Get the Digital Guide and Workbook from Jay Shetty https://jayshettypurpose.com/fb-getting-started-as-a-life-coach-podcast/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:32Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah, I'm not even just saying this. I literally think I manifested this. Like, it's the, after I saw you at Simi and Hayes's house. So that was a couple of months ago, and then a few weeks ago, my, I was talking to my social media girl randomly. We were just talking about a bunch of stuff, and just kind of what I would love to represent, just talking about a new chapter for me and whatever. And I was, she was like... Who would you really wanna like talk to or whatever? And I was like, it'd be so cool to talk to Jay. And she was like, that would be really cool. And then we kinda just, that was kinda the thought and whatever. And then you hit me and I was like, no frickin' way, he's hitting me right now. So I was like, absolutely, this is like perfect. It's the universe just putting it in perfect timing.

• 2:13Jay Shetty?

  That, that makes me so happy because it was exactly the opposite way. So I've, for a long time, had people that I'd love to sit down with. And every time I saw you do something with Mental Health and Vogue or any of the segments that you ever did, I was just like, she's amazing. Like, you know, it's incredible to, the way you were talking about it, when you'd post about it. I'd be like, oh, this is incredible, like to see, see you speaking so openly about it, vulnerably about it.

• 2:36Kendall Jenner?

  Thank you.

• 2:36Jay Shetty?

  And so I've always wanted to do this.

• 2:38Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 2:38Jay Shetty?

  And then, but we've never really crossed paths.

• 2:41Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 2:41Jay Shetty?

  So I'm always just a bit like, and I don't like asking friends of friends when I haven't met someone.

• 2:45Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 2:46Jay Shetty?

  So I, I was like, that day I had to like pluck up the courage and be like, I'm just gonna ask her myself.

• 2:50Kendall Jenner?

  No.

• 2:51Jay Shetty?

  Cause it's easier when I ask her. And I know Christie, so.

• 2:53Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:54Jay Shetty?

  But I was like, I, it's nicer when there's, I told my team too, I was like, it's so much nicer when there's like a personal connection.

• 2:59Kendall Jenner?

  For sure.

• 2:59Jay Shetty?

  And someone really feels comfortable, rather than it's like a PR thing.

• 3:03Kendall Jenner?

  No, it was, it was so perfect. Like when I think back to it, I'm like, that was me just trusting the universe and not pushing for anything. And I knew it was gonna kind of happen when it was supposed to, and it literally did.

• 3:14Jay Shetty?

  And it did, yeah.

• 3:14Kendall Jenner?

  You felt it too.

• 3:15Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I did. That makes a lot to me, yeah. And, and I hope that this is the start of spending more time together, genuinely.

• 3:20Kendall Jenner?

  Me too.

• 3:21Jay Shetty?

  Off camera too.

• 3:22Kendall Jenner?

  I would love that, cause like, I think also, I don't know, like I admire people like you. I admire like, you know, the, the Michael Pollens and Michael Singers and Wim Hof's of the world. And I feel like you fit in that category for me of just people that are, cause you know, I know a little bit about your story. I'd like to actually know more, which would be really cool to act, I know we're obviously not here to, for that, exactly. But for me, just personally, like I'd love to know more of your story. I know that you've had quite the experiences and I think that's so cool. I'm like so intrigued by people with just that amount of curiosity and like determination, determination and patience. Like that takes so much patience to be like you or like any of those people that I just listed.

• 4:05Kendall Jenner?

  It's so cool to me and I just, I wish, I wish for myself, but I'm working on it.

• 4:09Jay Shetty?

  No, you're that curious too. You're that curious.

• 4:11Kendall Jenner?

  I am, it's just, you know, that, that level of, like I said, patience and determination is like. It's a gift. Like, that is like a really, really amazing gift. And like I said, like, I'm just working on it all the time and I, that's my goal in life, I guess.

• 4:27Jay Shetty?

  Well, I, I think I feel the same way about you again, that, and by the way, I love all those people you just mentioned too.

• 4:33Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 4:33Jay Shetty?

  So feel very honored to be put into that group of people. And we've had Wim on the podcast before too, so he's been a guest. But with you, I feel the same way back when it's like, when you, when you see someone who is so curious, who could get away with not worrying about these things if you don't want to, but then still being courageous enough to talk about these things and then using your platform as a space to open up these dialogues.

• 4:53Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 4:54Jay Shetty?

  That is as if not more important as well as, as doing the work and doing the path.

• 4:59Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 5:00Jay Shetty?

  And so I, I could see you doing the work. It's fun watching you do the work and figuring it out.

• 5:03Kendall Jenner?

  I love working on myself. Like, it is actually like a passion of mine and like, I just, I find so much comfort and joy and like actually finding where I think I could better myself and being like, even if it's physical, like physical as in like my physical health or working out or I just started doing, speaking of Wim Hof, I just started doing like cold plunges and ice baths and like, even if I don't have the time to go outside, I just got a cold plunge. I did it right before I got here. The best thing ever. It's also, again, it takes so much mental, the, the whole thing of it is all mental. So, I don't know, just stuff like that I really love. So I'm always, I'm always trying to just be the best version of me. And so,

• 5:45Kendall Jenner?

  I just love that. It like actually makes me feel really good. I love self-care and I just love stuff like that. So it's been really cool. But it's cool for you to say that you enjoy seeing that from me because there's always been kind of this weird part of it for me where I'm like, is this a pity party? Cause I don't want it to be. Like, I want this to feel very positive. I want to connect with people. And I guess that's, that is my goal there is to be like, there actually is this side of me that you might, may not know of. But the goal here is to connect and also not. Feel like I'm throwing some pity party for myself because I want this to be a learning experience for everyone. I want this to be really positive and really, really well received. I want you to look at it and actually have a positive feeling towards it. So I don't know,

• 6:30Kendall Jenner?

  you'll find like if I, you know, when I do kind of post about something or when I want to talk about something, I'm usually sharing a tip or like sharing kind of like a little technique, even if it's something so simple as like running, walking outside, taking a few deep breaths and journaling. Like, it's just that kind of stuff that I really like to share because I feel like I want to be helpful more than anything.

• 6:51Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely. And that's how, that's at least how I see it. Like I see it not, not completely, not as a pity party at all, but so much more as just, hey, here's a reminder, here's something that I did. And I feel like that positivity shines through too in the way you do it. So at least if that helps, whatever that's worth, from the outside, it definitely comes across that way. And this has easily been the warmest introduction to a flow of a conversation I've ever experienced in my entire life.

• 7:16Kendall Jenner?

  I was gonna say, I was actually, I was actually really nervous coming in here because this means so much to me. Like, and I'm serious because, you know, I've done a lot of interviews in my life. And when, when thinking about this one or thinking about that I even wanted to do something like this, it just, it, it means a lot to me. And so it made me a little nervous. And I was like, I just want to get this right. This isn't like, you know, me going out and promoting something or talking about something. This is, you know, something very real that we all experience, which is just, you know, ourselves and our wellbeing and just everything. So.

• 7:49Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. And this is, this is a, you know, for me genuinely, and I really do mean this, like the podcast has been a great excuse or really from my side, an intention to get to know people I really admire. And so for me, it's been a great way of building new friendships and relationships, because if you can sit and talk to someone and really get along with each other, you're like, oh, we should do this more often. So.

• 8:09Kendall Jenner?

  Well, I'm honored.

• 8:10Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. So for me, it's definitely been that. And to me, you know, you saying that and, you know, taking it as intentionally as you are, it's, you know, for me, it's as important. I always share this before we start recording usually, but we just flowed. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every single one of you that come back every week to listen, learn and grow. Now, it's very rare that I get to sit down with someone that I have admired for a very long time from afar, someone that I believe has inspired me through the sharing of their story, someone who speaks so vulnerably and openly about the things that I most care about, mental health, purpose, the journey of life and discovery and curiosity. And

• 8:53Jay Shetty?

  what I want to share about this person is when I bumped into them at a mutual friend's birthday party, and I just want to give a big shout out to Simeon Hayes, because this wouldn't happen without them. I love you, Simeon Hayes. You've been an amazing guest on the podcast before as well. I wouldn't have bumped into this individual and had this opportunity to reach out to them. And as soon as I reached out, this has been the most flowing conversation and connection that I possibly had on the podcast, to be honest. So I just want to put that out. I'm speaking about the one and only, someone who needs no introduction, but successful business founder, international supermodel, founder of the incredibly successful tequila brand 818, and star on the Hulu's The Kardashians, which premieres in second season on September 22nd. The one and only Kendall Jenner. Kendall, thank you so much for doing this.

• 9:37Kendall Jenner?

  Thanks for having me. That was a wonderful introduction.

• 9:39Jay Shetty?

  Oh, well, it's honestly been such an honor getting to know someone who, it's very rare that I find someone who functions with very similar values in a personal connection sense. So when I reached out to you, I really meant everything I said, and I could have written you an essay, but I was like, let's spare the details. And then to get your response and then for us to be here within a couple of weeks of connecting.

• 10:03Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 10:03Jay Shetty?

  And even your message this morning, I just want people to know, I was like, the text you sent me this morning, I was like, this never happens. Like, this is amazing. And I was like, but, and I was literally gonna do the same thing. And so, to me, I was like, this is very rare. And so, I love the synergy and the flow that we're experiencing.

• 10:18Kendall Jenner?

  Me too.

• 10:19Jay Shetty?

  I'm excited to get into it now.

• 10:21Kendall Jenner?

  Me too. It's funny, because I called Hayes before the other day, and I was just like, oh my God, I'm going on your friend's show, and whatever. And she was like, he's the best. It's, you're just gonna flow right into it. He's so easy to talk to. And that's literally what happened. And like I told you, I just feel like I manifested this moment for both of us and for this, just this whole experience. And so, I am really happy to be here. And I'm honestly honored. I said, I admire you and I there's so many people like you that I admire. So I think sitting down here with you is just so cool for me and I get to talk about fun things with you.

• 10:54Jay Shetty?

  Amazing, amazing. First of many and and I wanted to start with because I I always like to start with just things that I've seen more recently. A couple of days ago, I think you posted a beautiful picture of you hugging your horse.

• 11:03Kendall Jenner?

  Mm hmm.

• 11:03Jay Shetty?

  Uh, and you were like, you know, like snuggle time or something like that. And I was just like, when when did horses become a part of your life? And how did you get so close to them?

• 11:12Kendall Jenner?

  I think I've spent many lifetimes with horses. I think this is very one of many lifetimes that I've had. I grew up in a horse community, so where we grew up, horses everywhere, more trails than there were homes, really. And so I was always around horses and I just was deeply in love with them. And I have no explanation, and that's why I say I feel like in past lives I have just been around horses. Yeah, so since I was a really young kid, loved them and continue to love them my whole life. They're just the best. They're the most majestic and gorgeous and spiritual. They feel everything. I just like, it's such an honor to be in their presence.

• 11:51Kendall Jenner?

  And to be able to do what I can do with my horse, I find so magical that I can stand in her stall with her and just like vibe out with her. I like sometimes come to like a little get a little teary eyed when I'm standing in my stall with her. Cause I'm like, this is so cool that you allow me to do this and we have this connection without any words. It's just the best thing ever. So I love them.

• 12:11Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, that's so special. I I have a different teary eyed story with horses, but I'll tell I'll tell you the short version. So when I proposed to my wife, who I can't wait to introduce you to, when I proposed to her, which is eight years ago or something like that. When I proposed to her, I organized a very, what I would consider like a very, a very Hollywood proposal. It was it was too over the top and I would do it totally different today with all everything I've learned.

• 12:34Kendall Jenner?

  Happens.

• 12:35Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, it happens. It happens. And so we were walking by the Thames in London, which is where we're both born and raised. And this a cappella group jumps out and they're singing Bruno Mars. And then like they give her a bouquet of flowers and then I get on one knee, I propose, we have dinner by the river. And then we walk around the corner and there's a horse driven carriage to take us around, uh, to take us around London. And so we're on this carriage, we have this beautiful, you know, path through London. And then we get into the train to get back home to her parents to tell them, and they already knew. She's got hives all over her face.

• 13:07Kendall Jenner?

  No way. She was allergic?

• 13:09Jay Shetty?

  She's allergic to horses. And I found out the day I proposed to her, I was like, alright. So then she was like, she had tears. And when we got back, her parents were like, what did you do to her?

• 13:17Kendall Jenner?

  At least you got to enjoy the moment.

• 13:18Jay Shetty?

  At least you got to enjoy the moment, yeah. It wasn't until after, but, but no, I love horses. No, I love horses the same way you do. Like, I, I used to go to India a lot when I was a kid. And that's where I first learned to be with horses. And it was-

• 13:31Kendall Jenner?

  I mean, they're so therapeutic.

• 13:33Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely, yeah.

• 13:34Kendall Jenner?

  There's a reason there is that coin therapy. It's the best, but-

• 13:36Jay Shetty?

  Exactly.

• 13:37Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah, they make me, they make me, when I'm with her, I have a few, but I'm most, mostly with one of my horses right now. Cause I'm, her name's Delandra. I didn't name her. She came with her name. But I call her Dylan or Dill. Um, I love her so much, but when I'm with her, I, I genuinely, I speak of like, or I spoke about how I've just loved horses my whole life. I, I feel like a kid around her. Like, I feel like my 12-year-old self that would get up every morning throughout the entire summer at 8:00 AM to go just be at my trainer's facility. And I would stay there from 8:00 AM to 8:00 PM. I'd ride all her horses. I'd groom all her horses. I would just sit in the stalls with all the horses. Like, it just, anytime I'm with her, I just have that sense of like, being a child again, and it's a really, really good feeling.

• 14:21Jay Shetty?

  Animals have that special ability, don't they?

• 14:23Kendall Jenner?

  They're so awesome.

• 14:24Jay Shetty?

  Like whichever animal you're attracted to.

• 14:25Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 14:26Jay Shetty?

  I, I've, I never thought I would, but when I lived as a monk, the animal that's revered in India is cows. And you would never think of cows being like majestic or, you know, in that way. Especially when you're not in India. But the cows in India have these like lotus-like eyes. Like, the eyes are just like absolutely stunning, yeah. And they're so special and they're such gentle animals. And recently, Rudi and I went trekking with gorillas in Rwanda. And gorillas are the, we have to go.

• 14:54Kendall Jenner?

  That sounds unreal.

• 14:55Jay Shetty?

  It was unbelievable. And they're the animal that's revered in Rwanda. So whenever they have a new gorilla that's born, they have a naming ceremony with the community.

• 15:04Kendall Jenner?

  I love that.

• 15:04Jay Shetty?

  It's so beautiful, but, and then I heard somewhere that you, your first job was you were a dog walker.

• 15:09Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 15:10Jay Shetty?

  And so I was thinking like, do you have any lessons or anything you learned by being a dog walker? I think first- Jobs are so interesting.

• 15:16Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah, no, I mean, I was always a super disciplined child, like, meaning to my, like, I just loved. I would put myself to bed at seven P M, be like, my mom would be like playing with me and my little sister and be like, Mom, it's seven. I gotta go to sleep. Like, it's time for my bedtime. She'd be like, are you okay? And so I was always that kid. And so I, I think I just was always really eager to like work. I don't know why. I just like wanted to always have something to do, something that I felt passionate about, that I really enjoyed. And so, yeah, when I was young, I put some flyers around our community and said I would walk dogs. And I ended up getting people that would get, let me have their dog for a few hours and take it for a walk.

• 15:55Kendall Jenner?

  So I loved animals and I liked having something to do. So I spent, I was a kid that liked to be by myself with animals. So like, I think that that was a cool, very fitting thing for me, because I got to be by myself walking. But then also experience all these little dogs with me.

• 16:12Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah. I wish I did that. I used to deliver newspapers. So that was my first job. And it's not as glamorous in London because it's raining.

• 16:19Kendall Jenner?

  Was that what you were desiring or was that more just like?

• 16:22Jay Shetty?

  Years old and wanted to make some money.

• 16:23Kendall Jenner?

  Just like, I need a.

• 16:24Jay Shetty?

  I was like, I need to make some money. Yeah. And so I was like, I'm gonna start doing this. And you don't get to, you know, you'd see it in the movies where the paper boy just like chucks the paper at the door. But I'd like to actually go and put it inside. So my only interaction with dogs is they were on the inside grabbing the paper.

• 16:38Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 16:39Jay Shetty?

  And so, yeah.

• 16:40Kendall Jenner?

  Like barking at you and stuff.

• 16:41Jay Shetty?

  Barking and stuff. But I always loved knowing about people's first jobs and how things started for them because of, you know, obviously where you are today. But what do you think it was in those early years where, you just said you were very disciplined? Like, it sounds like you were, you were aware of certain habits that you built then. What were some of the things that you feel confident about or how, how did you look for validation in those early years? And where did it come from for you?

• 17:06Kendall Jenner?

  I mean, it's interesting. So Kylie, my little sister, she was always the social butterfly. I was always, I just liked being to myself. I don't know if that's the Scorpio in me, so it just came naturally or whatever. I had, I had a group of friends who I loved, but I just, I, I like can vividly remember just on the weekends, not running to go be with my friends all the time. During the summer I was with them, but on the weekends, um, in between school, I would, I was really just. By myself, I would love to like hang out in my room. I like was kind of a nerd. I loved video games and like sitting on the computer and playing Sims all day. Like, I just kind of liked being to myself. And then all day long during the summer was with my horses. And yeah, I don't know. I just, it just brought me joy. I don't think I have like,

• 17:51Kendall Jenner?

  you know, a super long explanation for that. It was so simple for me as a kid. Like, it was just as simple as that made me happy. And that's just what I wanted. And it explains, I guess, a lot of me now. I went through like a phase where I felt like I had to be around people. I think I live a very social life and my job is very social. So I was, you know, kind of conditioned to want to be around people a lot. And then as, you know, the pandemic came around, you're not around as many people anymore. Now I'm just re-enjoying being by myself, which is really cool.

• 18:26Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 18:26Kendall Jenner?

  And I had the most, I had the best day on Sunday, all by myself. I got up, I went and rode my horses. I like took my niece to ride her pony. Just me and her, it was so nice. Brought her back home, went to my house, got in my cold plunge, went in my pool, laid out, journaled, like I was having the best day and I was just pretty much all by myself. So I, I enjoy it so much.

• 18:49Jay Shetty?

  I love that. I'm sure that's so refreshing for people to hear too, because I feel like people may, from the outside perceive a life, which obviously, like you said, for work, it's busy and it's social. And of course, you have wonderful friends, but to know that you can feel comfortable in your own company, and that's been a habit that you've developed.

• 19:04Kendall Jenner?

  I crave simple things. Like, I, I love my life and I love my job. And I, I feel so fortunate that I have been placed here, that for some reason I was given this life. Like, I feel immensely grateful for that. And I have had so much fun. And I like think back on just the experience that I've had, the experiences that I've had thus far. And it's like, it's like shocking to me. I'm like, this is so fricking cool that I live this life. But at the end of the day, like when I am home and when I'm alone, like I crave the simple things. I love a simple day. I love just like a simple routine and. Being to myself and being around the people that I love, my small core crew, so.

• 19:44Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah, I mean, that's, I think that's what we're all striving for is

• 19:48Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 19:48Jay Shetty?

  That passion in our careers and our work and then

• 19:50Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 19:51Jay Shetty?

  The simplicity at home. What would you say, I, I was thinking about this and I've watched so many of your interviews and, and read so much too, but what would you say for you as being one of your like proudest moments or greatest achievements or something that you really feel like and internally, I mean, like for, for the basis of our conversation, like something that really brings you joy internally when you think about it or when, when you had it.

• 20:13Kendall Jenner?

  Like I said, I look back and the things that I've accomplished, just even my job, like I think I really at one point when I was younger, decided I want to be a model and this is what I want to do. And the fact that I executed, because we talk about that determination, like I really was, I was fourteen years old when I kind of made that decision and was like, this is what I want to do. And I went to my mom and I was like, please help me do this. And I didn't stop until I was twenty four that I was like, okay, I think I need to like take it back a notch, which we can also get into because that's a very

• 20:47Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 20:48Kendall Jenner?

  Kind of dramatic story, but like, I, I just knew and I think I'm proud of myself for being that kid and being determined to do that and then executing and doing it to the, to the level that I had done it and that I, I guess I still do. But I, I also am proud of I think more so the self-work that I've done within that process because there was a long period of time, I'd say the core five years of it, that I was extremely overworked. Not my happiest, not because I wasn't doing what I loved, but just because I was overwhelmed and I was, I felt like I was saying yes to everything because I felt really, really grateful and really honored to be in the position

• 21:32Kendall Jenner?

  that I was in. So I was always saying yes. And it just took a lot out of me to the point where I just wasn't happy anymore. And so I had to set those boundaries for myself when I was about twenty three, twenty four. I'd say like what, a year before the pandemic. So yeah, I was probably twenty three. I really set boundaries for myself and I was like, I want to continue to do this because this is what I love. But I need to start saying no when I can and prioritizing me and prioritizing, like, you know, my happiness and my wellbeing.

• 22:06Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 22:06Kendall Jenner?

  And it has done wonders for me. Like, I feel like I can show up better for myself and I can show up a better person for the people that get to be around me that day and, you know, that I work with on that day. So.

• 22:19Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 22:20Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah. So that's what I'm proud of.

• 22:22Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 22:22Kendall Jenner?

  Sorry to give you a long answer to your question.

• 22:24Jay Shetty?

  That's amazing. I was, I won't say I was hoping for that because I'm always open to wherever anyone's life experience goes, but there's a part of me that loves hearing that. Like, I really appreciate hearing that because when you've achieved so many incredible things in your career, which you have, to then say, well, this is the part, like, knowing how to navigate it or.

• 22:41Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 22:41Jay Shetty?

  Making the right choices at the right time.

• 22:44Kendall Jenner?

  Healthy balance.

• 22:45Jay Shetty?

  The healthy balance.

• 22:45Kendall Jenner?

  It's so important. It's important for all of us.

• 22:48Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 22:48Kendall Jenner?

  Like, we have to, this is what we're prioritizing, you know?

• 22:52Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 22:52Kendall Jenner?

  So.

• 22:53Jay Shetty?

  How did you find the courage to do that at the 23 mark? Because you're saying you're in a competitive industry. As you said, it was overworking, it's fast-paced. I'm guessing there's comparison in that industry, there's competition in that industry.

• 23:06Kendall Jenner?

  Of course.

• 23:06Jay Shetty?

  It's not an easy space to be. You're.

• 23:08Kendall Jenner?

  Of course.

• 23:09Jay Shetty?

  You know, you're in the top 0.01% in your industry.

• 23:12Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 23:13Jay Shetty?

  It's hard. And the reason I ask this is because I work with so many people in this space and to have the courage to say, no, I know that if I sort this out, then all of this is going to be just fine. That actually takes more courage than we recognize. We realize that when you have nothing, then there's nothing to lose. You can actually have a lot of courage.

• 23:32Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 23:32Jay Shetty?

  But when you have everything and there's everything to lose and a lot of the time, at least what I've heard in, in town is, you know, older managers and agents, and I'm not saying you have any of this, but people that I know will be told, well, hey, if you don't do this, like, you'll be forgotten next year, or, you know, your, your career's only going to last another six months. How did you have that courage to say, no, no, no, I need to do this? Like, where did that come from and?

• 23:53Kendall Jenner?

  I think that it's inter- like, I've never thought about it that way, to be completely honest with you. I just knew that if I had gone any further, that I was going to lose myself. I was at that very, I was on the teeter-totter edge of that point where had I gone any further, I was probably not going to be great. It was so important to me to feel good, that I just knew that it was something that I had to do. And I can't say, like, You're absolutely right. Like, there were so many people around me that had told me not to say no. And told, or told me, yeah, told me not to say no, told me not to stop.

• 24:36Kendall Jenner?

  I fought my way out of it a little bit because there were people that had worked for me that, you know, didn't want me to stop because it might have benefited them.

• 24:44Jay Shetty?

  Of course.

• 24:45Kendall Jenner?

  But I got to that point and I just knew I had to do it. And I just, I don't know. I don't know how to explain it, I guess.

• 24:51Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 24:52Kendall Jenner?

  It was just such an unbelievable sensation that I had where I knew that if I do this, I'm gonna be better for everyone. And I'm gonna be better for myself, which means I'm gonna be better for the people around me. And I have to do this. And so it wasn't really, I wanna be able to live with happiness. God forbid any of this ever went away. And I think that that was a big moment for me of being like, I'm gonna be okay if I don't get this job tomorrow. And I'm gonna be okay if I don't get that job in a month. If I have to take this time to do whatever, things will come. Everything's going to work out the way it's supposed to. And I had to trust that. So.

• 25:30Jay Shetty?

  Well, to me, from the outside, and it's, it's beautiful that you didn't see it in yourself, because that always makes it even more wonderful. But the idea that, to me, from the outside, that's a lot of courage.

• 25:38Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah, thank you.

• 25:39Jay Shetty?

  It takes a lot of courage. It takes a lot of vulnerability and openness. And, and it takes courage at every level, whether someone's thinking about quitting their job to do something they love, or whether someone's trying to relocate their family and doesn't know how, or whether someone like you is feeling success, but then going, well, wait a minute. And I think in the past few years, we've seen athletes and musicians and actors and people in all creative industries step back and say, well, I need to put me first.

• 26:03Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 26:04Jay Shetty?

  And I think that that's empowering, because I think we hear about burnout in work culture and corporate culture so often.

• 26:11Kendall Jenner?

  For sure.

• 26:12Jay Shetty?

  So what, what, what was it that you started to do at that newfound time, at that time? Like, where was, is that where the curiosity, was the curiosity always there and now you could actually follow it?

• 26:22Kendall Jenner?

  It was. It was, it was always there. And I had had a lot of people coming to me telling me about. Meditation and how it changed their life and therapy and so many different things. And I was a bit overwhelmed because I was like, oh, my God, what of this is gonna suit me? I think it's a very personal experience. I think everybody has a very different version of all of that stuff. And so it was a little overwhelming. So I think I really just took the time to be off for a second. It was even the little things. It was like being able to go to my friend's birthday party, which I wouldn't have been able to go to before because I was working a lot.

• 26:57Jay Shetty?

  I love hearing that because I think it is those simple things like, you know, giving yourself that space, whatever it is that you needed to do.

• 27:04Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 27:05Jay Shetty?

  When you needed it. And like you said, sometimes it's like that's when all the subscribe buttons come up in front of you. And it's like, try this and try this. And it's like, well, no, no, no, let me just take my time.

• 27:13Kendall Jenner?

  Hmm. It was also now that I think about it.

• 27:16Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 27:16Kendall Jenner?

  Twenty three, I'm twenty six. I've had my horse for, so around that time is when I bought the horse that I have now, who is my, like, I jump her and I like, I have two other horses, but they're like retired. So I don't really ride them the same way I ride her. So, yeah, I guess it was around that time too, that I was like, I'm gonna do this because I love this. And like, I want to get back into it. And this is what I've loved my whole life. So, so it was around that time that I feel like all of that started happening. And I bought my horse and I like started taking more time for things that made me really happy.

• 27:50Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, what I'm noticing in you and observing, or at least from just these.

• 27:54Kendall Jenner?

  Oh, God.

• 27:55Jay Shetty?

  No, in a good way, in a good way. It's all, I was just saying, it's like, it feels like no matter what's happening in your orbit, there's this pillar of belief that it's important to be happy.

• 28:06Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 28:06Jay Shetty?

  Like, you know, that's like this core center belief in your life where it's important to be happy. It's important to be happy. It's, that has to be the goal.

• 28:14Kendall Jenner?

  For sure. And, you know, it's not always easy. We live in such an interesting industry and in such an interesting time with social media that it can be very hard sometimes. You can fall victim to so many things that. Don't serve you and that don't make you happy. If your happiness depends on the actions of others, you know, you're at mercy of things that you can't control. And that's never where I want to be. So I always want to live in like, me and my therapist talk about like my higher goddess, my higher self. Like, I always want to live there, knowing that,

• 28:57Kendall Jenner?

  you know, when I'm there, you can't take that away from me. That's mine. And no matter what, you can disagree with me, you can agree with me. That's not going, I'm not changing, I'm not shifting. I'm here, I'm in my higher goddess. So I kind of, I always live by like, holding my happiness and not letting anyone else affect it. And though I fall victim to it at times, as we all probably do.

• 29:22Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely.

• 29:22Kendall Jenner?

  I strive every day to live in that place, so.

• 29:26Jay Shetty?

  What are some of the qualities of your higher goddess? So that kind of avatar like.

• 29:31Kendall Jenner?

  She's awesome. Like I said, I don't love a pity party. I also like, you know, sometimes it feels weird to like say good things about yourself. But I've also learned a lot about talking to myself and a lot about looking in the mirror and being like, you're great, you're gorgeous, you're amazing, you're loyal, you're positive, you're so many, like I love words of affirmation. I love just sitting there and reassuring myself of who I am. Because that's another thing for me, you know? There's so many false narratives about me, about all of us, I'm sure. Like, so many people think they have you figured out when they don't even know the half of it. So sitting there and being like, you know, you get frustrated sometimes.

• 30:16Kendall Jenner?

  It could feel really unfair. You could be reading something that someone is saying about you or hearing something that someone's saying about you and being like, that is so unfair because that's not who I am. And that really gets to me sometimes, and that really sucks. But then looking at myself in the mirror and being like, but I know who I am. And that's all. Why does anything else matter? And my friends know who I am, and my family knows who I am. My dog knows who I am, my horse knows who I am. Like, why does any of, everything else is just noise?

• 30:43Jay Shetty?

  I, I do this exercise, I don't think I've shared this before, but I do this exercise with some of my clients where we'll go on a walk and we'll be on a hike wherever we are. And I'll ask them what they think a piece of, you know, maybe there's a little leaf or maybe there's some flower or something that looks a little unique on the path. And I'll say, what do you think that feels like? And what do you think it would feel like if you picked it up in your hand? And they'll be like, oh, it looks really rough and like it might scratch me and like it looks like a bit, you know, like uneven or whatever. And it looks kind of hard and strong. And then I'll ask them to pick it up. And nine times out of 10, it's completely different. Like they'll pick it up and it'll just dissolve in their hands. Or they'll turn it over and the color's really soft.

• 31:28Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 31:29Jay Shetty?

  And sorry, the shape, the shape's really soft and the color's totally different on the other side. And I do that exercise to help us realize just how multifaceted humans are.

• 31:37Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 31:38Jay Shetty?

  Today I've got to meet you and, and obviously we're spending a lot of deep, intimate, vulnerable time together. So you learn faster about someone, but if someone only follows someone on social media or only sees someone at an event or only sees one interview, it's so easy to create such a singular view of someone.

• 31:53Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 31:54Jay Shetty?

  And I think, and I want to say this because I really think we all feel it. I don't think anyone wants to be seen in a singular way. If you had to choose one word that had to be you for the rest of your life, I don't think anyone wants that.

• 32:08Kendall Jenner?

  No, of course not.

• 32:09Jay Shetty?

  I think we all know that we're messy and complex and different.

• 32:13Kendall Jenner?

  Of course.

• 32:14Jay Shetty?

  But we like to put someone else in a box, whoever that may be. Because it's easier than to live life and say, okay, well, that's person's A, B.

• 32:23Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 32:23Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, no. So there's this beautiful piece of wisdom that I always share from Charles Horton Cooley. And he wrote this in 1890, I think it was, which just shows how true this has been for such a long time. And obviously long before that as well. And he said, the challenge today is, I'm not what I think I am. I'm not what you think I am. I am what I think you think I am. And we'll let that blow everyone's mind. It gives me chills every time I say it. Charles Holton Cooley said, "The challenge today is I'm not what I think I am. I'm not what you think I am. I am what I think you think I am." And what he's trying to say is that we live in a perception of a perception of ourselves.

• 33:06Jay Shetty?

  So if I think you think I'm smart, then I allow myself to feel smart.

• 33:11Kendall Jenner?

  Right. It's like we need that validation.

• 33:14Jay Shetty?

  We need that validation. Or if I think you think I'm not smart, then I feel hurt.

• 33:19Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 33:20Jay Shetty?

  And and the challenge is, I don't know what you're thinking at all, especially outside in the world. And so I find that what you're saying around like, well, what do I think about myself? Like, how do I feel about myself? How do the people that actually know me feel about me? I think that's really empowering. I wanted to ask you because I feel like from from what I've seen and from what I've heard, you have you have great friendships. You have a great relationship with your family, as you said. Like, what do you think have been really great habits or traits in relationships that have helped you build up good friendships and and family relationships? Because I think for so many people, sometimes their friendships and their family can often be the most difficult part. But I feel like the way you communicate or the way you're talking about it, I'm like, OK, there's some really good habits in place here.

• 34:00Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 34:00Jay Shetty?

  Have there been any principles or rules that you've learned along the way that have been helpful?

• 34:04Kendall Jenner?

  I mean, of course, honesty. Um, I'm a big person on like, keeping a really honest, healthy, communicative relationship. But I also think like, I find it really important to have, not feel like you're on top of each other when you have your family around or your friends around. It's OK to like, sometimes, even if you're at like a family dinner, running to the bathroom and just being like, let me just take a couple of breaths because this is getting overwhelming.

• 34:31Jay Shetty?

  That's a great one.

• 34:32Kendall Jenner?

  Do you know what I mean? So I just love to like, take a second. My feelings are valid. Like, sometimes my family's a lot, which I bet everyone already knows.

• 34:40Jay Shetty?

  And everyone's family.

• 34:41Kendall Jenner?

  Everyone's families have a sense of crazy to them. But but I think that I can get really overwhelmed really easily. I am prone to just, you know. A good amount of anxiety and just being extremely overwhelmed and kind of taking everything too seriously sometimes. So I like to just step away sometimes and just be like, this is okay. I'm allowed to feel this way. It's valid. I'm just gonna take a deep breath and I'm not gonna react and then I'm gonna go back out there and I'm gonna be fine.

• 35:06Jay Shetty?

  That's a great idea.

• 35:07Kendall Jenner?

  Sometimes I do that.

• 35:08Jay Shetty?

  I love that. I love how easy it is. No one needs to learn a new meditation practice.

• 35:12Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 35:13Jay Shetty?

  Or new thing.

• 35:13Kendall Jenner?

  Sometimes it's just as simple as that.

• 35:15Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, it's as simple as that. I love that. You know, one of the things that, you know, which really touched my heart when I saw this, because I think when things happen in culture and everyone talks about it, but sometimes you're like, okay, well, I can tell that there's a real connection here. Like when you lost Virgil. Right? Like that, when I saw your message and what you spoke about it, I was like, wow, this is, this is someone who had a really deep connection with this individual. And going through grief is really, really tough. Like, you know, people who lose, and I lost two really close people to me during the pandemic.

• 35:46Kendall Jenner?

  I'm sorry.

• 35:47Jay Shetty?

  One was, thank you, one was, one was my spiritual teacher since I was 12 years old and he died of stage four brain cancer and I hadn't seen him during the pandemic. I couldn't go back for his, because that was still when it was like tight lockdown. So I couldn't go back for his funeral. And, you know, he'd been the person who'd been such a key piece in my life.

• 36:06Kendall Jenner?

  Oh, wow.

• 36:07Jay Shetty?

  And then the other person, pretty much in the same year, was my best friend as a monk. So he was still a monk.

• 36:13Kendall Jenner?

  Wow.

• 36:14Jay Shetty?

  And he happened to get cancer and he passed away during the pandemic. I couldn't see him either. And he was my age. And so to lose someone that was, you know, and he was still there. And so, yeah. And so, and so when I saw your, you know, your wonderful tribute to Virgil as well, I was like, you know, how, how, how do you process something like that when, you know, it's not only industry friends, but genuine friendship beyond that? And just, how, yeah.

• 36:37Kendall Jenner?

  Well, my first thought here is, why is it always the best people? Like, why is it always these people that are just such balls of light in everyone's life? It's like so, you just think about it and you're like, this is so unfair. And you're going through every emotion. And to be honest, it was really shocking because not everyone knew what he was going through and suffering from. So it was really shocking. I'll never forget the day I found out. And it just absolutely, obviously breaks your heart. And

• 37:13Kendall Jenner?

  You can't help but be like, oh my God, did I, did I ever say enough? Did I ever tell him enough? It's really interesting to share that feeling with so many people.

• 37:23Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 37:24Kendall Jenner?

  It feels good in a way and you're just like every, it makes you feel so human. And you're sharing this emotion with people that knew him, people that didn't know him, people that just loved him from afar. And it's just a really beautiful and incredible thing to a certain degree, but then also just obviously the most devastating thing. It hits so hard when so many people are talking about it and so many people are affected by it. So it was definitely a really shocking, really sad time.

• 37:58Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 37:59Kendall Jenner?

  It was, yeah.

• 38:00Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and those, and it's really interesting what you said there is like why, and I had that with my spiritual teacher for sure. I was just like, like he was, you know, and, and what's really powerful about what I could at least remember from him at that time was that even though he had stage four brain cancer, which means he'd lost his short-term memory and a lot of his long-term memory is impaired. If you haven't met him, he would just thank you for your service to God. Like he would just say, thank you for everything you're doing for other people. And he would just be grateful. And I was just like.

• 38:31Kendall Jenner?

  That's exactly how V was too. He was the most positive, lived life, like appreciative, wanted to say yes to everything, wanted to just be there for everyone. You could literally ask him to design a pencil for you and he would be like, it'll be done tomorrow. What are you, what else do you need? Like, he just had so much to give and he gave it. And that wasn't, that was pre his diagnosis. That was like, that was just who Virgil was. And so to then find out what he found out at a certain point in his life and still be that person, it's still like, I'm going to show up for everyone. And like.

• 39:12Kendall Jenner?

  My time here is so special to all these other people and I'm going to like be here to make them feel amazing. It's just like unreal. Like it makes you just be like, what?

• 39:23Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 39:23Kendall Jenner?

  Like, how? How could you be that incredible and giving? Like, that is so crazy. There wasn't a selfish bone in that man's body. Like, he was just the best.

• 39:33Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 39:33Kendall Jenner?

  But I'm sorry to hear about your.

• 39:35Jay Shetty?

  Oh, no, no. I think it's it's actually nice speaking about people that we both love in in a in a similar way, even though they're in such different places in life, doing very different things.

• 39:45Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 39:45Jay Shetty?

  But to to talk about someone's, and I think that's a big part of it for me, at least with grief, that I feel like when I talk about the beautiful qualities of the people that I lost, it gives me so much confidence that they want me to live it and they want me to try and embody it and that how fortunate we are

• 40:04Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 40:04Jay Shetty?

  to have experienced that type of humanity.

• 40:06Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 40:06Jay Shetty?

  Like, you know.

• 40:07Kendall Jenner?

  And those are my thoughts of him. Like, I think all we ever really want as human beings is to be, you know, when we do leave this earth, we want to be remembered so beautifully and positively. At least I do, of course, but like, you just want, you of course want to make people feel something. And he made so many people feel something. And for that, it is so special. Like, what do they say that we, you know, we have our purpose here? And I know that he fulfilled a purpose here that he was supposed to fulfill. And I think that that's, I think about it beautifully. Like, I, obviously, it's a very, very sad situation and it and it breaks my heart, but I have nothing but beautiful thoughts of him. And I think that's really cool and really special. So.

• 40:51Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Thank you for sharing that too. And I I had to ask you because, yeah, I just, I feel, I love hearing amazing things about amazing people that, you know, because I think so many of the most incredible people, I grew up reading about people that I never met. And I spent a lot of my life studying books about people that I never met. So Malcolm X and Martin Luther King and Einstein and people that I really see as people that have directed so much of my life from how they lived. And I feel like he was potentially one of those people that I never met him, but whenever I hear about him, I'm just like,

• 41:23Kendall Jenner?

  For sure.

• 41:23Jay Shetty?

  Oh, this is someone that we could learn from.

• 41:25Kendall Jenner?

  For sure.

• 41:26Jay Shetty?

  You spoke about purpose there. I was wondering, how has your purpose changed? You had this very. Confident view of I want to be a model, you know, you've superseded, exceeded and continue to flourish in that world. And I always wish that you do. How has your purpose evolved as that time's gone on?

• 41:43Kendall Jenner?

  I think I've learned a lot. I've learned a lot about myself, about what I want from my life and which is kind of what we've been talking about. But I'm actually really excited to get older and to learn so much more about not only myself, but like the journey and the path that I guess want to take and want to be on. So I'd say, you know, my purpose has evolved from obviously within business, doing what I want to do and making sure I'm happy and finding the thing that I love and all those things. But I've kind of, like I said, really tuned into me. And I think my purpose, at least at this very moment, and what I've kind of evolved into is

• 42:27Kendall Jenner?

  is my higher goddess. Like I am determined to tune into her at all times. But also, as I get older, I have so much that I want to connect with other people and with, you know, AKA, social media and people that may not know me personally. And just, you know, the following, like I said, I was given this life for some reason. For whatever reason, I was placed here. And I do feel a purpose to share and connect and put a smile on people's faces or make someone feel a positive feeling. And so I think that within me wanting to achieve me tuning into my higher goddess,

• 43:08Kendall Jenner?

  I think that also entails me being a great version of myself for other people to then experience and my tips and my tools and whatever I can share, whatever help I can give. I really, you know, as corny as it sounds, I want to spread love. Like I want people to feel love. That's really, I guess, the purpose.

• 43:30Jay Shetty?

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• 46:05Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 46:05Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and and and it is funny that so much of the stuff that is corny or, you know, whatever, that's the stuff that's true.

• 46:11Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 46:11Jay Shetty?

  That's the stuff.

• 46:12Kendall Jenner?

  It is. Like, there's also just, we all just like live in such a, it's an interesting time, obviously, and it can feel really negative. And I tend to stay off of platforms, like social media platforms, because it's hard to look at sometimes and it feels really negative. So I feel like we all just need a little bit of a smile sometimes.

• 46:32Jay Shetty?

  I agree. I agree. I I post these videos every day, which are just these fun, silly things that happen in the world that my my team will find, I'll find. And I post them every day, literally for that reason and that reason only, because I'm like, I may or may say, may or may not say something that makes someone smile.

• 46:50Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 46:50Jay Shetty?

  But this definitely will. Like, this, this, without a doubt, will bring some joy to someone's life. And if if this is the only joy that someone experienced, I want them to see good in the world and believe that there's good in the world.

• 47:00Kendall Jenner?

  That's one of my favorite things to see on TikTok. When I sit in my bed at night and fall victim to TikTok, I love to see, there's people that'll post like, here's like five amazing facts that have happened in the world in the last couple of weeks or whatever. And it'll be like, the, you know, pandas are not extinct anymore. And like, the Great Barrier Reef is coming back and stuff like that. And so I'm like, that's so cool. That's what I want to hear.

• 47:24Jay Shetty?

  Exactly. And and, you know, if it was like, it's going down, it's like, it's gonna get a lot of likes and hits. But if it's going up, it doesn't get the same attention.

• 47:32Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah. Why do we like gravitate towards the negative so much? Like, very interesting.

• 47:37Jay Shetty?

  We have to retrain. I I genuinely believe it's just a pattern. It's a pattern and a habit that's been adopted for so long.

• 47:44Kendall Jenner?

  Absolutely.

• 47:44Jay Shetty?

  And we have to retrain ourselves.

• 47:46Kendall Jenner?

  The clickbait of it all and the whole thing. And we're like, that's going downhill. I need to see what's happening. And we're just like, we do need to retrain our brains. It's exactly what it is.

• 47:57Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. And it starts with what you said earlier. It starts with how we see ourselves. It is all from that. If someone looks in the mirror, as you were saying earlier, or if someone just reflects on themselves, not in them physically, but just internally.

• 48:09Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 48:10Jay Shetty?

  Most of us will spot all the negative things about ourself. And then we take that out into the world and spot all the negative things about everyone else. And then we take that out into social media.

• 48:20Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 48:21Jay Shetty?

  So that just propels from.

• 48:23Kendall Jenner?

  It's all a reflection of.

• 48:24Jay Shetty?

  It's all, yeah, if we ask someone to sit down and write down, as you said, we feel uncomfortable taking a compliment. Or we feel uncomfortable saying.

• 48:31Kendall Jenner?

  Saying nice about ourselves, right?

• 48:32Jay Shetty?

  Exactly. And so it all starts with our relationship with ourself. If we were able to find three good things about ourselves today, I promise you, you're gonna find three good things about the person sitting in front of you. And that will.

• 48:44Kendall Jenner?

  Right, exactly.

• 48:45Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 48:45Kendall Jenner?

  I do a lot of like inner, inner child work with my therapist. And there's actually a trend on TikTok that was going around, but coincidentally enough, we ended up naturally speaking about it in my session. And it was like this trend on TikTok, I guess, that was like, um, like a girl being like, anytime you're being mean to yourself, just think this is who you're talking about. And then it flashes to like a photo of her as a kid.

• 49:10Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 49:10Kendall Jenner?

  And so I, me and my therapist were talking about something similar. And she was like, why don't you find like a photo of yourself and put it on your bathroom mirror? So that every morning, every night, every day, when you walk into your bathroom mirror, you're looking at her. And you're remembering that if there's anything negative that you're ever saying about yourself, if you're ever being mean to yourself, you're talking about her. And so I did that and I went into my, um, I went into like my memorabilia closet in my house. And I was looking through old like photo books and I've seen these photo books my whole life. I've literally seen every photo that's been in here. And I like flipped to a page and there was a photo I'd never seen of myself, ever. It was a Polaroid, so it was the original photo. And it was just me as a little girl with a bow in my hair and a dress on. And I have like a little alien tattoo or something right here.

• 49:55Kendall Jenner?

  And I'm like, have this big cheesy smile on my face. And I was like, that's the photo I'm putting on my thing. I can show you the photo later. I have a picture of it on my phone. But, um, so I pasted it on my bathroom mirror and I talked to her. And I'm always like, if I'm ever looking in the mirror and being negative towards myself or anything, I'm, I always look right over to her and I'm like, she's dope. And I love her. And so it's just another way of just self-love.

• 50:18Jay Shetty?

  I love that. That's such a great tool. That's such a great tool. My team found a kid picture of me and made an embarrassing version of that trend. So I'll show you that too.

• 50:26Kendall Jenner?

  Oh, awesome. Okay. So you know it.

• 50:27Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I know exactly. I know exactly what you're saying. You're talking about as well. Kedro, you were saying earlier that, you know, you, you wanted to come here and you, you wanted to share and you manifested it and you, there were things you wanted to share. What is it that's on your heart that? You've wanted to share that maybe we didn't go there today already, or is there something on your mind and heart as an experience? Or anything that really drew you here and made this happen, right? Like, I want to honor that.

• 50:51Kendall Jenner?

  I think we've obviously, we've honestly touched a lot of what I felt like I would have loved to get off my heart. I don't know, I was really excited, honestly, to come here and share a little bit of me that I feel is very sometimes scary for me to share. And like I said, I came in here and I was a little nervous because this is important to me. And like this part of, you know, everyone's journey and what we're talking about today is, it's so important. I really, that was, I guess, my intention here today was to come in and share a little bit of me. And maybe for whoever's watching, they find some comfort in this or some joy from this, or they understand me a little bit more, you know what I mean?

• 51:35Kendall Jenner?

  So I think that we've hit a lot of really cool points. And yeah, I mean, I feel, I feel really good.

• 51:41Jay Shetty?

  Good. I wanted to honor that. I asked that because, you know, I think, I think when, when you feel you're in that flow with someone, and yeah, I, I feel like, you know, we've learned so many new things about you today. And there's so many moments where I'm like, I just feel like you're so comfortable and, and you've been so open with us. But I just wanted to honor that.

• 51:58Kendall Jenner?

  Thank you.

• 51:58Jay Shetty?

  And make sure that you feel that you've really felt heard and seen.

• 52:01Kendall Jenner?

  I appreciate that. Thank you.

• 52:03Jay Shetty?

  So I want to be mindful.

• 52:04Kendall Jenner?

  We all want to just be understood at the end of the day.

• 52:07Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. I think the closer you get to people, humans, the closer you get to people of different backgrounds and different walks of life, the more you start to recognize how similar we all are.

• 52:20Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 52:21Jay Shetty?

  And how many challenges we all share, despite how much money someone has in the bank, despite how much fame someone has, despite how much followers someone has.

• 52:29Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 52:29Jay Shetty?

  And what we find is that everyone feels their own guilt for where they are. And everyone feels their own pressure for where they are. And everyone feels their own challenge for where they are. And you just start to realize that we all have the same emotions.

• 52:41Kendall Jenner?

  Exactly.

• 52:42Jay Shetty?

  In different mixes.

• 52:44Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah, we're all just having a human experience.

• 52:45Jay Shetty?

  Exactly.

• 52:46Kendall Jenner?

  We're all just going day by day. I think we all need to be a little bit kinder to each other and just take it easy on some people.

• 52:54Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 52:55Kendall Jenner?

  Cause we are, we're all, we all have our own struggles and um, I don't know, I'm, I'm an empath. So I like feel for things and I feel for people and um, yeah.

• 53:07Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and it starts with you, the, the person.

• 53:09Kendall Jenner?

  Right.

• 53:09Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 53:10Kendall Jenner?

  Exactly. I thought you meant me. I was like, I don't know, I don't have that power. I was like, thank you.

• 53:15Jay Shetty?

  No, no, no, I meant, I meant that to our listener, like it starts, it starts with yourself.

• 53:19Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 53:20Jay Shetty?

  If you can be kinder to yourself, chances are you're gonna be, I, I found that the days I stopped judging myself, I stopped judging others because it, it changed how I

• 53:29Kendall Jenner?

  Yeah.

• 53:29Jay Shetty?

  saw humanities, you know? Uh, Kendall, we end every On Purpose episode with a final five, which is a fast five round. I ask you a question and you answer it uh, with a one word or one sentence maximum. So it's super quick and short.

• 53:43Kendall Jenner?

  Okay, okay.

• 53:43Jay Shetty?

  And we have to whisk you away because you need to, you need to go to your next appointment. Uh, but okay, so the first question is, what's something you're curious about right now?

• 53:52Kendall Jenner?

  Ooh, um, I am super curious about, I was saying how I love um, Michael Singer. And I think what I really love, I'm reading uh, The Surrender Experiment right now and I'm only in the first couple of chapters. So he's basically, this is not a quick answer.

• 54:08Jay Shetty?

  It's great. I love it though. Please, please.

• 54:10Kendall Jenner?

  He's basically at the first part of the book where he's talking about how he was curious about meditation and how he got into meditation and how he really just was like on a trip with his friends and his girlfriend in the woods and like sat in a corner or sat at a tree and was like, I'm gonna just really dive into this and see what happens. That's what I'm curious about right now is just actually like, I meditate, I do a lot of breathing work, breathing exercises. And I just really wanna tap in

• 54:35Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 54:36Kendall Jenner?

  like Michael Singer did.

• 54:37Jay Shetty?

  I love that. That's a great answer. That's a great answer. Uh, second question, if there's anything that you're working on personally right now, what are you working on, on yourself? Is there any?

• 54:45Kendall Jenner?

  Yes. Um, I'm working on, I'm working on boundaries and I'm working on not a stressor. Like I can stress about Things in my mind and I overthink and I just, so I'm really working on like calming down and just letting things flow better and not being so controlling over things, especially that I can't control.

• 55:08Jay Shetty?

  Love it. Uh, question number three, uh, what's your favorite thing about founding eight one eight?

• 55:14Kendall Jenner?

  Ooh.

• 55:15Jay Shetty?

  Or being an entrepreneur, being a founder?

• 55:16Kendall Jenner?

  Probably that. Like I, I, you know, was a model and I worked for people a lot. I kind of love being my own boss and really being able to have my own creative, a place where I can be creative and just really express my creativity and have so much fun doing all of that creative stuff. And I've learned so much and learning about the culture and learning about the tequila and everything. Like I've just had the best time, so.

• 55:44Jay Shetty?

  Love that. Uh, question number four, what's something you used to value, but you don't value anymore?

• 55:49Kendall Jenner?

  Validation.

• 55:52Jay Shetty?

  Great answer.

• 55:53Kendall Jenner?

  I don't care anymore.

• 55:54Jay Shetty?

  Great answer.

• 55:55Kendall Jenner?

  At least I'm telling myself that.

• 55:56Jay Shetty?

  Yes, yeah, well, we have to make it a thought first.

• 55:59Kendall Jenner?

  Right, right. No, but it, it's true. Like I used to care so much more about validation. I really don't care anymore, at least as much. Thank you.

• 56:07Jay Shetty?

  Uh, fifth and final question, if you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow, what would it be?

• 56:13Kendall Jenner?

  Ooh, I would do like, on like a Sunday, you have to take half the day and like not look at your phone or something.

• 56:21Jay Shetty?

  That's great. I love that. That's a legit law. That's great.

• 56:23Kendall Jenner?

  Right? That'd be kinda nice. Or the full day, or being really crazy. I love that idea.

• 56:29Jay Shetty?

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• 58:40Jay Shetty?

  And relationship and I want to, everyone who's been listening or watching back at home, please let me and Kendall know, tag us, letting us know what resonated with you, what connected with you, like what was it that you've got curious about? Or what was something she said that just shifted your perspective? Or where you learned something new? I'd love to hear it. I know there were tons of moments for me where I was listening going, this is amazing, this is incredible, this is awesome. So any wisdom nuggets that stuck out to you, please let us know, because I love seeing what made a difference in your life as well. And a big thank you to Kendall for opening our heart and opening up our minds. Thank you, I'm honored, thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you. That's amazing.

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